| 00:03.11 | Ashura | but i think i need a softphone :| |
| 00:03.18 | Ashura | ekiga really sucks... |
| 00:04.00 | macTijn | ekiga rocks, when it works |
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| 00:04.38 | Ashura | macTijn, yup... but if i got a busy reply... it stops working :D |
| 00:05.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Ashura : Ekiga IS a soft-phone |
| 00:06.15 | macTijn | Ashura: try a non-beta then :) |
| 00:06.29 | Ashura | [TK]D-Fender, i mean... another softphone |
| 00:06.43 | Ashura | macTijn, I'm using 2.0.2 |
| 00:06.55 | macTijn | Ashura: same here, stable as a rock |
| 00:08.17 | bkruse_home | anyone here packaged rpm's? ANYONE?! |
| 00:08.18 | bkruse_home | lol |
| 00:08.34 | Ashura | ARGH! I wrote my experiences with asterisk on my blog... and i got 350 spam comments in only 2 days!!!!! |
| 00:08.48 | bkruse_home | LOL |
| 00:08.55 | bkruse_home | Ashura: thats cool |
| 00:08.56 | Strom_C | that's why blogs suck :) |
| 00:08.58 | bkruse_home | i use gentoo also |
| 00:09.04 | bkruse_home | jbot: Strom_C++ |
| 00:09.08 | bkruse_home | :] |
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| 00:09.13 | Strom_C | :] |
| 00:09.22 | Strom_C | how are you, bkruse_home? |
| 00:13.55 | bkruse_home | im good |
| 00:13.55 | bkruse_home | just having rpm problems |
| 00:13.55 | bkruse_home | ;[ |
| 00:13.55 | bkruse_home | how bout you Strom_C/ |
| 00:13.55 | in-pt | hi |
| 00:13.55 | bkruse_home | in-pt: sup:D |
| 00:13.56 | in-pt | anyone got success with beronet BRi card woth asterisk-1.4.0 |
| 00:14.07 | bkruse_home | in-pt: have you installed the misdn package? |
| 00:14.07 | in-pt | bkruse_home:what ! |
| 00:14.28 | in-pt | i am trying to install install-misdn-mqueue |
| 00:14.34 | in-pt | but it is getting failed |
| 00:14.40 | bkruse_home | feed me errors |
| 00:14.42 | bkruse_home | ~pb |
| 00:14.43 | jbot | well, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 00:14.59 | in-pt | ok |
| 00:15.11 | bkruse_home | i bet i know the problem |
| 00:15.30 | bkruse_home | if it doesnt work, you can use my debian packages that havent been shoved upstream yet |
| 00:16.08 | in-pt | just a moment please |
| 00:16.16 | bkruse_home | k |
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| 00:18.36 | Nivex | bkruse_home: I dunno if you've been following my bug report. I broke it good :) |
| 00:19.34 | bkruse_home | Nivex: # please! |
| 00:19.56 | bkruse_home | whats the bug #? |
| 00:20.05 | Nivex | 0008696 |
| 00:20.28 | bkruse_home | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=8696 |
| 00:20.30 | bkruse_home | this one/ |
| 00:20.51 | Nivex | indeed |
| 00:21.07 | russellb | whatever the problem is, bkruse_home will fix it. |
| 00:21.32 | Nivex | oh, good call on the techno. |
| 00:21.33 | Qwell | bkruse_home: turn it up, I can't hear it |
| 00:21.39 | Nivex | dang randomizer |
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| 00:21.48 | bkruse_home | Qwell: you could PROBABLY hear it, if we were at digium |
| 00:21.53 | bkruse_home | russellb: i thought he meant the sip MIME message thing, this i cannot fix :[ |
| 00:21.58 | bkruse_home | lol |
| 00:22.02 | Qwell | russellb: ! |
| 00:23.00 | Qwell | bkruse_home: I'm watching a special on the history channel right now :P |
| 00:23.17 | linagee | Bunkka |
| 00:23.33 | bkruse_home | Qwell all i saw was some dude in a river |
| 00:23.40 | Qwell | diamond miner :p |
| 00:23.53 | bkruse_home | wait |
| 00:23.59 | bkruse_home | can i buy rated R tickets now? |
| 00:24.07 | Qwell | NC-17? |
| 00:24.15 | bkruse_home | omg |
| 00:24.18 | Nivex | Strom_C: I fold. (Never heard of 'em) |
| 00:24.19 | bkruse_home | im not a child under 17 |
| 00:24.23 | bkruse_home | Joel1978: dj burnz is the way to do |
| 00:24.24 | Joel1978 | LOL |
| 00:24.31 | russellb | bkruse_home: when was your bday? |
| 00:24.33 | Qwell | is that how they classify R? |
| 00:24.37 | Joel1978 | got a website? |
| 00:24.53 | bkruse_home | Joel1978: nah he was some dude from the counterstrike community |
| 00:24.53 | Nivex | oh well, Orbital is next in the queue |
| 00:24.58 | bkruse_home | russellb: today! |
| 00:25.02 | russellb | bkruse_home: w00t!! |
| 00:25.02 | Joel1978 | ahhhhhh |
| 00:25.04 | bkruse_home | :D |
| 00:25.06 | linagee | Nivex: hackers theme? |
| 00:25.07 | russellb | bkruse_home: happy bday, then |
| 00:25.13 | bkruse_home | russellb: thank you! |
| 00:25.14 | Joel1978 | too many DJs i say |
| 00:25.17 | Nivex | linagee: nah. "Satan" |
| 00:25.21 | bkruse_home | Qwell: are you watching the diamond think? |
| 00:25.24 | Qwell | yeah, heh |
| 00:25.31 | bkruse_home | YES! |
| 00:25.37 | Nivex | I thought Hackers was Prodigy (Voodoo People) |
| 00:25.40 | bkruse_home | Qwell: already gave me a birthday present. |
| 00:25.44 | Qwell | :D |
| 00:25.48 | bkruse_home | :P |
| 00:25.53 | linagee | Nivex: hackers intro was orbital |
| 00:26.04 | bkruse_home | russellb: can i see rated R movies now? |
| 00:26.18 | bkruse_home | i have some cake too.....if you want some, my mom gave me cake and then left, and my dads sick |
| 00:26.18 | bkruse_home | lol |
| 00:26.28 | Nivex | linagee: oh, Halcyon and on and on |
| 00:26.34 | linagee | yes |
| 00:27.03 | carrar | Halcyon |
| 00:27.04 | carrar | hahah |
| 00:27.08 | linagee | Nivex: "Orbital- Halcyon +on +on.mp3" |
| 00:27.08 | carrar | they still in biz |
| 00:27.28 | bkruse_home | Qwell: when are we doing to link asterisk-now and the real, asteriskNOW |
| 00:27.41 | Strom_C | not now |
| 00:27.46 | Qwell | when j4m3s gets around to it... |
| 00:27.47 | Qwell | I guess? |
| 00:27.54 | carrar | Northwest Nexus |
| 00:27.54 | carrar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.54 | carrar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.54 | carrar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.54 | carrar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.56 | carrar | wow |
| 00:27.57 | carrar | guess so |
| 00:28.18 | carrar | same address for years |
| 00:28.35 | bkruse_home | Qwell: lame! we need to say the channel got taken over |
| 00:28.35 | bkruse_home | :D |
| 00:28.44 | Nivex | hmm, the problem is in sipsock_read getting some kind of lock |
| 00:28.53 | Nivex | beyond that, by developer-fu is too weak |
| 00:29.22 | linagee | :-D |
| 00:29.27 | Nivex | (this according to the line numbers in the error messages) |
| 00:29.43 | linagee | Astral Projection? |
| 00:33.03 | linagee | "Let the computer speak" |
| 00:33.06 | Nivex | I think I'm gonna cry. |
| 00:33.24 | Nivex | Why the heck will this thing not fail when debugging is on?! |
| 00:34.35 | Nivex | if this turns out to be a timing issue... |
| 00:34.42 | Rhizome | Its a smartbug. |
| 00:34.56 | in-pt | bkruse_home:http://pastebin.ca/297330 |
| 00:35.18 | Nivex | Rhizome: the worst kind :) |
| 00:35.25 | bkruse_home | in-pt: im lookin at it now |
| 00:35.31 | in-pt | ok thnx |
| 00:36.59 | bkruse_home | in-pt: did you go into your zaptel directory and type make b410p |
| 00:37.14 | Nivex | Finally, it blew up! |
| 00:37.14 | in-pt | no |
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| 00:37.26 | in-pt | because i don't have digium card |
| 00:37.33 | in-pt | i have card from beronet |
| 00:37.40 | bkruse_home | thats fine |
| 00:37.44 | bkruse_home | it just installs the misdn package. |
| 00:37.53 | in-pt | ohh |
| 00:38.02 | bkruse_home | b410p(drivers) which you wont need, but mISDN-user has header files you WILL need |
| 00:38.08 | in-pt | so it doesnt matter from which vendor card belongs |
| 00:38.33 | bkruse_home | not for the misdn package no |
| 00:38.36 | bkruse_home | for the drivers yes |
| 00:38.57 | in-pt | ok i am going to make the try with make b410p in zaptel |
| 00:41.20 | linagee | ROFL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO37jzM59SM |
| 00:41.29 | bkruse_home | k |
| 00:41.51 | bkruse_home | in-pt: if you actually look at the makefile (vi Makefile) and search for b410p, you can see the wget calls |
| 00:43.02 | BSDTech | fix 1.4 |
| 00:43.04 | BSDTech | now |
| 00:43.07 | BSDTech | lol |
| 00:43.27 | bkruse_home | BSDTech: lol, what part, g729 stuff? |
| 00:43.32 | bkruse_home | Qwell: wow they actually are talking about blood diamonds1 |
| 00:43.33 | bkruse_home | !* |
| 00:43.54 | in-pt | bkruse_home: ya thats true |
| 00:44.33 | bkruse_home | :] |
| 00:44.56 | BSDTech | yes |
| 00:46.55 | bkruse_home | its saturday, and kevin is likely not at digium ;[ |
| 00:48.02 | Strom_M | BSDTech, so i'm sorry, you'll probably have to wait until next year |
| 00:48.07 | Strom_M | or next week |
| 00:48.13 | Strom_M | one of the two ;) |
| 00:48.16 | bkruse_home | :P |
| 00:48.28 | BSDTech | lol |
| 00:48.41 | BSDTech | Next year but 2008 is so far away |
| 00:48.51 | Strom_M | it's not 2007 yet, silly |
| 00:48.51 | BSDTech | long time to wait for a patch |
| 00:48.56 | BSDTech | lol |
| 00:49.13 | bkruse_home | BSDTech: its a little more than a patch from what i hear :X |
| 00:49.16 | BSDTech | 1 year from today will be 2008 |
| 00:49.18 | bkruse_home | but at least they are doing it the right way |
| 00:49.25 | bkruse_home | no, today is the 30th |
| 00:49.26 | BSDTech | ook good |
| 00:50.04 | BSDTech | what is there more then transcoding broken ? |
| 00:50.15 | BSDTech | thats not documented for us to read |
| 00:50.27 | [TK]D-Fender | BSDTech : You're the only person I've heard suggest that..... |
| 00:50.53 | [TK]D-Fender | BSDTech : Which typically means its just YOU. |
| 00:51.21 | BSDTech | bkr I believe he said he had the g729 transcoding issue |
| 00:51.31 | BSDTech | and I know X-ROb had the issue |
| 00:51.45 | BSDTech | and a few others that where testing 1.4 |
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| 00:52.27 | BSDTech | so its just not me . they just dont have then time to report it and I said I would |
| 00:53.15 | bkruse_home | BSDTech: its something to do with the transcode path for the software g729 |
| 00:54.03 | McGee | How can i supress that little beep at the begining of a outbound call? |
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| 00:56.50 | RoyK | McGee: what beep? |
| 01:00.18 | BSDTech | beeeep |
| 01:00.20 | BSDTech | that one |
| 01:00.40 | BSDTech | lol |
| 01:00.48 | BSDTech | bbiab dinner tiime |
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| 01:01.25 | McGee | RoyK, When i start a call i hear a tiny beep. It makes the fax go nuts so i want to switch it off |
| 01:01.57 | RoyK | McGee: haven't been out for that. sorry. |
| 01:02.49 | McGee | RoyK, np |
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| 01:04.57 | ElGatoFlojo | Would anyone have a moment to answer a question about asterisk and faxing? |
| 01:07.02 | bkruse_home | ElGatoFlojo: ill try :X |
| 01:07.14 | ElGatoFlojo | cool :) |
| 01:07.29 | ElGatoFlojo | So, I've got it all up and running, and it recieves incoming faxes like a champ |
| 01:08.06 | ElGatoFlojo | Now, the phone calls are coming in from a SIP provider. So there's no real phone line attached to the box |
| 01:08.27 | ElGatoFlojo | Now, what I don't understand is, why is it so difficult to send faxes back out the same way? |
| 01:08.59 | ElGatoFlojo | I've been reading about how asterisk doesn't support t.38 and all this other stuff. But if I can receive faxes just fine without having a land line, but yet can't send them? |
| 01:10.29 | brc_ | any ideas why I'd be able to recieve incoming calls, and place a call using dial(zap/4/18005558355), but not zap/g0/....? I've got a a102d and a PRI. When I try to place the call using zap/g0, I get Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1) |
| 01:10.49 | brc_ | anybody know the syntax of (1:0/0/1)? |
| 01:12.38 | ElGatoFlojo | If I had any idea I'd jump in. Is there anything in the logs to denote why? Chances are something in there says why your getting the busy message |
| 01:13.22 | Joel1978 | try g1 |
| 01:13.25 | [TK]D-Fender | brc_ : I'd be betting because you didn't group your channels properly in zapata.conf |
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| 01:13.59 | [TK]D-Fender | russellb : ? |
| 01:15.09 | Rhizome | ElGatoFlojo: The problem is that asterisk doesn't send it as t.38 properly. |
| 01:16.01 | ElGatoFlojo | But it receives it ok? Thats the part I'm trying to wrap my head around |
| 01:17.41 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, time to head out. Later people! |
| 01:19.20 | Rhizome | Not sure ElGatoFlojo, I just know i've never had problem recieveing faxes, and I use ser for sending faxes ;) |
| 01:19.31 | ElGatoFlojo | ser? |
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| 01:19.53 | Rhizome | www.iptel.org/ser |
| 01:20.38 | ElGatoFlojo | ahhhh....now my head is really boggled :) But thanks for the link. I've been reading some about OpenSER as well |
| 01:20.51 | Joel1978 | Does anyone know the name of the package used to make the colored text of the console output? |
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| 01:29.21 | ElGatoFlojo | thanks for the info...I'm off! |
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| 01:33.50 | in-pt | bkruse_home: you there |
| 01:34.07 | in-pt | no success with make b410p |
| 01:34.36 | bkruse_home | in-pt: did it not build?? |
| 01:34.51 | in-pt | it build perfectly |
| 01:35.09 | in-pt | but i dont see misdn in asterisk cli |
| 01:35.29 | bkruse_home | rebuild chan_misdn |
| 01:36.04 | in-pt | you mean to run make b410p again in zaptel |
| 01:36.20 | bkruse_home | no |
| 01:36.28 | bkruse_home | werent you trying to build chan_misdn? |
| 01:36.47 | in-pt | yes |
| 01:37.06 | in-pt | but i thought that make b410p will do that |
| 01:37.12 | in-pt | or not |
| 01:38.58 | in-pt | anyone worked with beronet BRI card with asterisk-1.4.0 |
| 01:42.34 | rob0 | Joel1978: color text in the * console depends on the termcaps of the terminal type you're using. What are you using for a terminal? |
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| 01:56.18 | Joel1978 | just at the console |
| 01:56.33 | Joel1978 | so i guess that means it's libtermcap |
| 02:03.40 | rob0 | Possibly, I don't know. It should "just work" on most Linuces. |
| 02:06.52 | `Sean | rob10 who do you use for termination? |
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| 02:25.03 | suma | anyway to checkout asterisk .14 through svn ? |
| 02:25.08 | suma | anyway to checkout asterisk 1.4 through svn ? |
| 02:27.52 | robl^ | svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.4 asterisk-1.4 |
| 02:27.56 | robl^ | NEXT!!! |
| 02:28.09 | suma | robl^: thanks |
| 02:28.53 | robl^ | suma: that should be 1.4 with just bug fixes after the actualy 1.4 release |
| 02:29.16 | suma | robl^: it is a stable release right ? |
| 02:29.33 | Joel1978 | rob0: I am installing * on a mininal install of centos so those pkgs aren't on already. either way i got it loaded |
| 02:30.27 | robl^ | suma: yeah. it.s 1.4 stable.. only bug fixes.. no new features since 1.4.0 |
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| 02:41.56 | `Sean | Anyone, wanna tell me some good SIP providers... |
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| 03:15.02 | billf | any reason my polycom ip500 doesn't seem to like talking to other sip channels? |
| 03:15.15 | billf | no audio |
| 03:15.21 | billf | in 1.2 it still works :( |
| 03:17.18 | Nivex | billf: I was just talking to someone on a Polycom 501 today. My problem is as soon as you try to transfer a SIP call it all goes to hell. |
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| 03:17.34 | billf | I don't even have to do that much though :( |
| 03:17.39 | billf | it just doesn't have any sound |
| 03:17.45 | billf | asterisk doesn't crash or anything |
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| 03:17.58 | mistermocha | yello all |
| 03:18.05 | robl^ | don't tell me thT! I jut bought $700 of polycom gear on friday |
| 03:18.17 | billf | it works great in 1.2 :) |
| 03:18.20 | mistermocha | what's the problem with polycom? |
| 03:18.28 | mistermocha | I <3 my polycom |
| 03:18.32 | billf | I do too |
| 03:18.34 | Nivex | robl^: that's what, 3 phones? |
| 03:18.50 | robl^ | they are telling me that Polycom has issues with 1.4 |
| 03:18.57 | robl^ | Nivex: 1 phone. ;-) |
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| 03:19.04 | billf | yeah transfers are definitely broke |
| 03:19.10 | mistermocha | hmph... couldn't tell you about that |
| 03:19.11 | billf | but I can't find a bug for my problem |
| 03:19.18 | Nivex | robl^: what the hell kinda phone costs $700?! |
| 03:19.35 | robl^ | Nivex: a 601 and 2 sidecars. |
| 03:19.40 | mistermocha | here's a silly question... is it possible for one phone to register with two boxes? |
| 03:19.49 | billf | the polycoms can do that ;) |
| 03:19.51 | Nivex | mistermocha: if it his multiple line appearances, yes |
| 03:20.38 | mistermocha | Aastra 9133i |
| 03:21.19 | robl^ | an Aastra 480i.. not tried with 9133 |
| 03:22.23 | mistermocha | no time like the prsent to try |
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| 03:34.51 | AJaymn | Can anyone tell me why if someone uses call forwarding I get no audio either side (Its using Ulaw) but if they call into the IVR then enter in the ext it transfers fine? |
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| 03:44.51 | Nivex | I seem to be misunderstanding the new "originate" command at the console |
| 03:45.38 | Nivex | oh. "extension" is a literal |
| 03:45.40 | Nivex | sweet |
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| 03:50.06 | Ogre-On | I have a quick question: Does asterisk 1.4.0 still require apache2 to run as the same user as Asterisk, and is it still a security liability to run Asterisk as root? |
| 03:51.26 | Corydon76-home | Ogre-On: technically, it's a possible security issue to run ANYTHING as root |
| 03:52.14 | Corydon76-home | Asterisk doesn't possess anything that makes it any more immune or more vulnerable than any other process that might run as root. |
| 03:52.18 | Ogre-On | *nod* Understood. I can probably figure out how to recompile Asterisk to run as a non-root user... but does the latest version still want to run as the same user as Apache2? |
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| 03:52.42 | Corydon76-home | I assume you're talking about the voicemail retrieval? |
| 03:52.59 | Corydon76-home | It's a simple matter of file ownership and permissions |
| 03:53.33 | Corydon76-home | Technically, you could set up advanced ACLs for the files as a sysadmin and deal with it that way |
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| 03:54.10 | Corydon76-home | but actually, we're doing something a bit different now. We set permissions at 0666 and let the umask restrict permissions |
| 03:54.19 | Ogre-On | *nod* I can't currently find the page I was reading before... but I remember reading that I should set up Apache2 to run as Asterisk. |
| 03:54.21 | Ogre-On | *nod* |
| 03:54.29 | Corydon76-home | So if you set your umask to 0, the permissions will be world read/write |
| 03:54.38 | Corydon76-home | so you won't need to worry about it |
| 03:55.17 | Corydon76-home | Of course, that's messy in other ways, but that's a choice you'll have to make |
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| 03:56.33 | Ogre-On | *nod* Thanks. Is there a web page that outlines the options in this regard for 1.4.0? |
| 03:56.44 | Corydon76-home | Not that I know of |
| 03:56.51 | Corydon76-home | I'm just going from memory |
| 03:57.02 | Ogre-On | Has the issue changed since 1.2.x? |
| 03:57.23 | Corydon76-home | Yes. In 1.2, the permissions were more restrictive by default |
| 03:58.00 | Ogre-On | Thanks. I really appreciate it. |
| 03:58.02 | Corydon76-home | The decision to open up the permissions and let it be restricted by umask was a conscious one to allow sysadmins to make these decisions themselves |
| 03:58.42 | Corydon76-home | Note that functionally, it doesn't really change the default case, since the default umask is 022. |
| 03:58.48 | Ogre-On | So which is the easiest approach consonant with reasonable security? To run it as root and manage it with umask? |
| 03:58.49 | Crashsys | I've installed Sangoma drivers and they load but when I do a ztcfg I get told it cant find /dev/zap/ctl... voip-info.org doesn't have much on it... any idears? |
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| 03:59.20 | Corydon76-home | You could run as any user if the umask were set to 0. |
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| 03:59.41 | Ogre-On | *nod* |
| 04:00.27 | Corydon76-home | And it wouldn't matter if Asterisk and Apache ran as different users, then |
| 04:01.26 | Ogre-On | Corydon76-home: Awesome. That's hugely helpful. And it sounds relatively simple. |
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| 04:14.50 | Crashsys | My zaptel isn't installing the /dev/zap directory... is that cause i'm using a 2.6 kernel? |
| 04:15.12 | rob0 | Possibly a udev issue. |
| 04:15.53 | BSDTech | ok |
| 04:16.15 | BSDTech | who what where when how why who with how big was it and is there live video |
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| 04:22.23 | Nivex | crap! I forgot the sip set debug |
| 04:24.30 | file | that doesn't matter to me |
| 04:24.36 | file | core debug matters |
| 04:24.41 | file | it will say why it's breaking out of the bridge |
| 04:29.02 | Nivex | core set debug 9 |
| 04:29.03 | Nivex | ? |
| 04:29.06 | Crashsys | The udev entries are in udev.rules... |
| 04:29.24 | file | yes, and make sure debug is set to go to the console... or else you won't see anything |
| 04:30.28 | Nivex | asterisk -ddddddddd should ensure console then? |
| 04:30.47 | file | no, read what I said in the note :) |
| 04:34.01 | Nivex | awesome. I have attached coredebug.txt |
| 04:34.15 | Nivex | (I also discovered the -n option... should make reading that a bit easier) |
| 04:34.52 | file | is that really latest 1.4 SVN? |
| 04:35.14 | file | 49066, hrm |
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| 04:36.35 | Trionnis | hi, has anyone managed to get zaptel/ztdummy to work on Xen without having to have Dom0 access? |
| 04:38.30 | Ogre-On | Corydon76-home: If I've set up asterisk to run as user asterisk, how do I set the umask as you suggested? |
| 04:38.30 | WilliamK | file: you're quite the weekend bugsmasher :) |
| 04:39.17 | Corydon76-home | Ogre-On: in your startup script, type: 'umask 0' |
| 04:40.04 | Ogre-On | Corydon76-home: *nod* Gotcha. Just to make sure I'm not completely clueless, I put that in /etc/init.d/asterisk (or something like that)? |
| 04:40.11 | Corydon76-home | Correct |
| 04:40.21 | file | Nivex: can I SSH in and poke at the code? |
| 04:42.31 | rob0 | User "root" password "password". |
| 04:42.56 | Trionnis | ip address: 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:43.08 | russellb | Trionnis: THAT'S MINE TOO |
| 04:43.12 | Trionnis | ZOMG |
| 04:43.17 | Ogre-On | *chuckle* |
| 04:43.22 | Trionnis | ;) |
| 04:43.33 | Nivex | not real sure what you need to poke at. |
| 04:43.47 | Trionnis | wait a second... file is skipping around, and wants to poke at something??? |
| 04:44.30 | Corydon76-home | Backing away isn't a real good idea in here |
| 04:44.42 | Trionnis | it's ok, I'm wearing iron underwear |
| 04:44.43 | Corydon76-home | Someone else might be behind you. ;-) |
| 04:45.00 | Trionnis | erm |
| 04:45.03 | Trionnis | o_O |
| 04:45.37 | Corydon76-home | Besides, file doesn't partake in sins of the flesh |
| 04:45.57 | Trionnis | poor guy |
| 04:46.10 | Corydon76-home | He's a real Catholic priest. ;-) |
| 04:46.13 | Trionnis | maybe we should all donate and get him a hooker if he's that hard up |
| 04:46.14 | markit | someone that use 1.4 and features *2 transfer? works for you? here seems to ignore dtmf (while a IVR gets it...) |
| 04:46.22 | Trionnis | oh, in that case maybe an 8 year old boy |
| 04:46.29 | Trionnis | *booo hisss* etc |
| 04:46.38 | Trionnis | 1 ticket to hell please, window seat |
| 04:48.20 | antlers | anyone here using Cisco's 7985G phone with Asterisk? |
| 04:48.33 | Trionnis | not if we can help it |
| 04:48.39 | Trionnis | ;) |
| 04:48.39 | antlers | touche |
| 04:49.04 | Corydon76-home | file: auto-import |
| 04:51.10 | antlers | so what do you gents use for hardphones? |
| 04:51.37 | russellb | antlers: to be honest, whatever i get for free. |
| 04:51.47 | russellb | but i guess that's not very helpful. |
| 04:51.56 | Rhizome | snom :P |
| 04:52.00 | antlers | naw, just an opinion question |
| 04:52.00 | russellb | i tend to like polycoms the most |
| 04:52.07 | Trionnis | polycom is good |
| 04:52.15 | Trionnis | grandstream is ok for a budget phone |
| 04:52.54 | Nivex | I got a 7960 for free. Talk about right place, right time. |
| 04:53.18 | Trionnis | yeah, you can ebay it and get a *real* phone! |
| 04:53.20 | Rhizome | I love my snom phone, can be registered to 9 accounts at the same time :P |
| 04:53.23 | Trionnis | ;) |
| 04:58.21 | antlers | never used polycom IP phones before |
| 04:58.36 | antlers | are they smart enough to set DSCP values correctly by default? |
| 05:07.06 | russellb | antlers: i've never looked ... |
| 05:07.30 | antlers | selecting voip phones for each room of the new house has proven to be harder than I thought |
| 05:07.42 | antlers | this Linksys WIP300 sure looks phat, raw, tight, off the hook, and dare I say jiggy |
| 05:09.09 | Crashsys | You forgot dope |
| 05:09.17 | antlers | indeed |
| 05:09.29 | Crashsys | All street credit... REVOKED... |
| 05:09.56 | antlers | please, I would kindly refer you to my ghetto report card |
| 05:10.10 | Crashsys | I failed ebonics :( |
| 05:10.58 | antlers | Linksys WIP330 supports QoS (Quality of Service) to ensure best quality voice |
| 05:11.23 | antlers | yeah, because all the p bits, tos bytes set, etc. are going to matter when ma fires up the microwave |
| 05:11.59 | antlers | the glorious benefits of OFDM rendered worthless by a cup-o-noodles |
| 05:12.14 | Nivex | amen brother antlers! |
| 05:12.48 | Crashsys | LOL... or when a welder fires up the welder... and brings everything to it's knee's |
| 05:13.05 | antlers | in fairness, my house doesn't have a resident welder |
| 05:13.42 | antlers | think the Linksys WIP300 is doable, able to keep household voip project ROI to 12 months |
| 05:13.54 | antlers | WIP330 and the wife's naughty places are off limits for 12 months |
| 05:14.28 | Nivex | 900MHz cordless + ATA for great happiness and simplicity |
| 05:15.26 | antlers | yeah and hookers with peg legs are cheap |
| 05:15.50 | Crashsys | ATA + DSS!!! |
| 05:15.52 | antlers | http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=1563 |
| 05:15.58 | antlers | that's a thing of beauty right there |
| 05:16.06 | Crashsys | $350 of beauty |
| 05:16.35 | antlers | what I don't spend on PBX software goes to phones :) |
| 05:16.50 | antlers | no BCM200 in the homestead? go stupid on phones, done/done |
| 05:17.00 | Crashsys | I'd still rather use an ATA + DSS Phone and features.conf |
| 05:17.09 | Crashsys | work sooo much nicer then WiFi anything... |
| 05:17.15 | antlers | features.conf? |
| 05:17.25 | antlers | talk to me |
| 05:17.30 | Crashsys | So you can transfer/hold/etc on an analog phone |
| 05:17.46 | Crashsys | dunno if the ATA's will pass CID tho |
| 05:18.12 | coppice | use a DECT IP phone. assuming you only want to use it in one area, it works better than any WiFi phone |
| 05:18.28 | Crashsys | Aaastra 480? |
| 05:18.32 | Crashsys | er Aastra 480 |
| 05:19.57 | Crashsys | Polycom needs a wireless SIP Phone... non wifi... |
| 05:20.04 | antlers | Aastra 480 is ADA compliant... well awesome, no worries when Jerry's kids come over |
| 05:20.51 | Crashsys | Make sure you install TRixbox... I hear it's ADA Compliant... |
| 05:21.31 | antlers | I have a stack of books and docs on asterisk here, been reading before I start the project, especially about trixbox and the like |
| 05:21.47 | antlers | is there a good marriage between straight asterisk install and thin gui management after the fact? |
| 05:22.04 | Crashsys | Trixbox is your friend... who gets drunk, sleeps with your girlfriend, and wrecks your car... |
| 05:22.14 | antlers | my dad? :( |
| 05:24.33 | Damin | Wow... |
| 05:24.36 | Damin | That is totally heavy.. |
| 05:24.48 | antlers | you guys ever buy phones from digiumcards.com? they pitch support of asterisk related configuration free |
| 05:24.56 | antlers | that's somewhat compelling for a first time asterisk user |
| 05:25.02 | Damin | Sure... |
| 05:25.23 | Damin | Check out druid as well.. They do a nice light behind the scenes management UI.. |
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| 05:25.32 | Strom_M | antlers, better to buy from digium and get suport from digium themselves :) |
| 05:26.43 | antlers | I was looking at their Asterisk Appliance Developer Kit thingy |
| 05:26.50 | antlers | look nifty |
| 05:26.55 | antlers | s/look/looked/ |
| 05:26.58 | Strom_M | yeah, it's fun; I have one |
| 05:27.09 | antlers | jbot, choke yourself |
| 05:27.10 | jbot | ACTION squeezes yourself till he turns blue like papa smurf |
| 05:27.28 | antlers | jbot, you're the reason I contribute to march of dimes |
| 05:28.01 | antlers | Strom_M, forgive my ignorance, but do they run an os/asterisk install out of the box, common image, etc. ? |
| 05:28.09 | Strom_M | yes |
| 05:28.16 | Strom_M | but it's still in beta right now |
| 05:28.20 | antlers | how much? |
| 05:28.54 | Strom_M | it's right there on the page |
| 05:29.05 | antlers | I'm retarded, indeed it is |
| 05:30.33 | Nivex | heya Damin! |
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| 06:26.16 | markit | where do I have to set TRANSFER_CONTEXT variable? in the dialplan? as a global one? |
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| 07:13.23 | mistermocha | anyone home? |
| 07:13.43 | bkruse_home | mistermocha: always |
| 07:13.46 | mistermocha | kee |
| 07:13.49 | mistermocha | keen |
| 07:14.22 | mistermocha | I can't seem to find anything in the polycom documentation to explain this... |
| 07:14.48 | mistermocha | but I've got some polycom phones where the whole LCD screen is blinking |
| 07:15.12 | mistermocha | phone appears to be working fine otherwise, just flashing LCD |
| 07:16.47 | bkruse_home | hmm |
| 07:16.53 | bkruse_home | dont know? never seen that |
| 07:17.04 | mistermocha | I have, just can't remember the cause |
| 07:17.31 | mistermocha | I guess if I just reflash the firmware... usually seems to fix everything on a polycom |
| 07:17.56 | bkruse_home | h |
| 07:17.58 | bkruse_home | ha |
| 07:18.00 | bkruse_home | what version |
| 07:19.12 | mistermocha | polycom 501 - firmware 1.6.4 |
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| 07:45.41 | *** join/#asterisk MrChicken (i=dorphals@pcsp168-254.supercabletv.net.co) |
| 07:45.57 | MrChicken | Hi? |
| 07:46.05 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: sup |
| 07:46.14 | MrChicken | I'd like to know ... what hardware would you guys recommend |
| 07:46.26 | MrChicken | for a biiig e1 amount? |
| 07:46.37 | MrChicken | Right now I need to start up with 6 |
| 07:46.39 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: ive seen big, define your big |
| 07:46.50 | bkruse_home | so how many do you want in one machine? |
| 07:46.52 | MrChicken | but I think I might need up to 12 |
| 07:46.56 | bkruse_home | 6 e1 spans in one machine you say? |
| 07:47.01 | bkruse_home | up to 12 e1 spans in one machine? |
| 07:47.11 | MrChicken | Up to as many as possible |
| 07:47.24 | bkruse_home | k, that depends on your pci buss |
| 07:47.34 | bkruse_home | and how many slots you have |
| 07:47.38 | MrChicken | I saw once thsi quintum thing |
| 07:47.42 | bkruse_home | and how much data you want to push through that one buss... |
| 07:47.47 | MrChicken | a tenor 3200 or something like that |
| 07:47.50 | bkruse_home | nah, let me hook you up right |
| 07:48.10 | MrChicken | it said it supported 32 (!!!) E1s |
| 07:48.21 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/digitalcards.php |
| 07:48.34 | MrChicken | and the processing was done outside of the machine |
| 07:48.37 | bkruse_home | EACH one of those cards support 4 E1's (TE 4xxP series) |
| 07:49.00 | MrChicken | and how much processor would I need per span? |
| 07:49.55 | MrChicken | That should appear on teh wiki right? |
| 07:50.40 | MrChicken | and the quintum solution sucks? |
| 07:50.46 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: depends, i think your going to run into pci buss problems before you run into a processor problem |
| 07:51.07 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: not sure, havent messed with integration into asterisk with em |
| 07:51.08 | bkruse_home | v |
| 07:51.09 | bkruse_home | i have 2 of those cards ina dell 2950 and it runs perfectly, with very low load |
| 07:51.28 | MrChicken | hrmmmm |
| 07:51.57 | MrChicken | and this redfone thing I heard of... |
| 07:52.07 | MrChicken | is it any good? |
| 07:52.44 | bkruse_home | ive heard of redfone too.... |
| 07:52.46 | bkruse_home | never used it |
| 07:53.17 | MrChicken | (shrug) Guess I might give some dough to digium, right? hehehe |
| 07:53.48 | bkruse_home | ha, ive had nothing but good luck with the digium cards |
| 07:53.50 | MrChicken | Last qyestion of the night and I leave you to sleep :) |
| 07:53.59 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: ha, thanks, shoot |
| 07:54.39 | MrChicken | How many cards would you suggest popping into one server? and would you recommend having one server for analog trunking and another for sip trunking? |
| 07:55.08 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: you COULD do that to seperate the load, but when you have the cards you can mix and match |
| 07:55.10 | bkruse_home | for example....... |
| 07:55.29 | bkruse_home | its PROBABLY not going to come down to a cpu problem as much as a buss problem (which is ALOT of data.......) |
| 07:55.41 | bkruse_home | so, if you DID get 4 cards, you could try your theory |
| 07:55.54 | bkruse_home | if it doesnt work out, split the load, 2 cards in one, 2 in the other, but i dont think it will be a problem at all |
| 07:56.04 | bkruse_home | escpecially if your just bridging analog lines to sip phones |
| 07:56.28 | MrChicken | thats basically it, with some IVR and queues in the middle |
| 07:56.59 | bkruse_home | right right, shouldnt be a problem |
| 07:57.04 | bkruse_home | have some asterisk experience? |
| 07:57.10 | MrChicken | a bit |
| 07:57.16 | MrChicken | but only with 2 e1s |
| 07:57.20 | MrChicken | and analog extensions |
| 07:57.20 | bkruse_home | awesome, if you need ANY help setting that up, let me know |
| 07:57.30 | bkruse_home | the little "load balancing" setup |
| 07:57.32 | bkruse_home | yaya, gotcha |
| 07:58.18 | bkruse_home | MrChicken: lets trade |
| 07:58.20 | bkruse_home | lol |
| 07:58.25 | MrChicken | lol |
| 07:58.33 | bkruse_home | thats why you do strait sip to E1 |
| 07:58.34 | bkruse_home | :] |
| 07:59.02 | MrChicken | Ok, I give you my two channelbanks and you give me two 48 port 3com gigabit switches |
| 07:59.08 | MrChicken | does that sound like a deal or what? |
| 07:59.32 | bkruse_home | depends on what kind of channelbank |
| 07:59.39 | bkruse_home | and no, i would prefer your approach too ;] |
| 07:59.50 | MrChicken | Zhone ZPlex 10 |
| 08:00.55 | MrChicken | And just so you see that I wanna be a cool guy, I'll throw in the rackmount ears and screws |
| 08:01.25 | bkruse_home | woot |
| 08:01.27 | bkruse_home | :P |
| 08:01.45 | MrChicken | This is an offer you dont see on TV, so hurry, have your credit card number at hand |
| 08:01.55 | MrChicken | (if possible a no limit credit card) |
| 08:02.20 | bkruse_home | yay |
| 08:02.27 | MrChicken | Anyway, I'll stop goofing around and go sleep |
| 08:02.34 | MrChicken | its fuckin 3am here |
| 08:02.40 | MrChicken | Bye! and thanks |
| 08:02.57 | bkruse_home | lata. |
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| 08:20.54 | tomcats | anyone using ilbc? |
| 08:21.37 | bkruse_home | :X |
| 08:21.42 | bkruse_home | "I R A ROBOT |
| 08:24.33 | tomcats | i am trying to design a remote pbx enviroment based on openser as the sip server and asterisk as media gateways, the client will be connected through a fractional E1 interface |
| 08:25.06 | bkruse_home | tomcats: thats very interesting, those are 2 great open source projects |
| 08:25.50 | tomcats | this way the e1 interface will be able to hold as many calls i can fit on 2 mbits insted of only 30 |
| 08:26.16 | bkruse_home | sure |
| 08:26.19 | bkruse_home | : |
| 08:26.19 | tomcats | the problem is the codec |
| 08:26.19 | bkruse_home | ;] |
| 08:26.22 | bkruse_home | right |
| 08:26.26 | bkruse_home | g729 an option? |
| 08:27.15 | tomcats | thats what i thought at first but I am not so sure of the quality and licensing for the gateways.. |
| 08:28.05 | tomcats | I've been researching ilbc but I am afraid that the current market of hardphones do not yet provide support for the codec... |
| 08:28.18 | bkruse_home | tomcats: yes, you have to pay for licenses, but the quality is incredible |
| 08:28.42 | bkruse_home | iibc uses alot of "power" to convert ulaw/alaw/sip to ilbc and back |
| 08:28.45 | bkruse_home | ilbc* |
| 08:28.56 | bkruse_home | and it sounds somewhat robotic |
| 08:29.26 | tomcats | I was under the impression that ilbc was good |
| 08:29.53 | bkruse_home | oh its pretty good |
| 08:29.57 | bkruse_home | sounds a little robotic |
| 08:30.03 | bkruse_home | and its system intensive. |
| 08:31.19 | tomcats | so what kind of cpu/ram u think is needed to transcode from MFCR2 (similar to pri) to g729 vs ilbc ? |
| 08:31.49 | tomcats | we are thinking of adding 2 4 e1 channels to the gw meaning 240 'ports' |
| 08:33.28 | bkruse_home | g729 is not nearly as bad as ilbc |
| 08:33.33 | bkruse_home | go to an asterisk command line |
| 08:33.34 | bkruse_home | and type |
| 08:33.40 | bkruse_home | core show translation |
| 08:33.41 | bkruse_home | ;] |
| 08:33.49 | bkruse_home | very informative chart |
| 08:33.57 | tomcats | yeah I always see very high numbers for ilbc.... |
| 08:34.13 | bkruse_home | yes ;] |
| 08:34.14 | tomcats | i though it was a bug.. |
| 08:34.18 | bkruse_home | its like that for a reason :P |
| 08:34.19 | bkruse_home | no |
| 08:34.20 | bkruse_home | lol |
| 08:35.15 | tomcats | so say something like single xeon 3.2 with 4 gb ram should do 240 g729 ? |
| 08:35.56 | bkruse_home | hmmm |
| 08:36.15 | bkruse_home | not sure |
| 08:36.31 | bkruse_home | thats $10 per license for g729 though |
| 08:36.35 | bkruse_home | per channel rather |
| 08:37.44 | tomcats | the idea is that this strategy costs will compensate for using less bandwith and centralized management.. |
| 08:38.13 | bkruse_home | gotcha, awesome |
| 08:38.25 | tomcats | kind of what you would hear as 'hosted' pbx but more like 'hosted and reliable' pbx |
| 08:38.41 | bkruse_home | gotcha |
| 08:38.42 | bkruse_home | very cool |
| 08:39.01 | tomcats | imagine every companie's pbx under one datacenter's roof.... noting to break at the client side.. |
| 08:40.19 | bkruse_home | perfect world eh? |
| 08:40.53 | tomcats | i think its possible |
| 08:41.04 | bkruse_home | or it is. |
| 08:41.07 | bkruse_home | oh( |
| 08:41.10 | bkruse_home | oh it is*** |
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| 08:41.46 | tomcats | im fairly new here.. but have you heard of aanything like this before? |
| 08:42.04 | bkruse_home | tomcats: oh yes, ive done it |
| 08:42.11 | bkruse_home | done that similar setup rather |
| 08:44.38 | tomcats | you mean managing and hosting the pbx? |
| 08:46.31 | bkruse_home | well, alot of people do it |
| 08:46.35 | bkruse_home | but ive done a setup that big before, yes |
| 08:48.34 | coppice | managed hosted PBX has been around for 30 years, as centrex |
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| 08:49.01 | bkruse_home | coppice: thats what i was thinking, its nothing new. |
| 08:49.08 | bkruse_home | tomcats: though still cool |
| 08:49.08 | tomcats | I asume its not done over the internet... |
| 08:50.21 | tomcats | I mean the idea is valid but everything I see its done over the internet... this doesn't seem to be a reliable model |
| 08:50.21 | bkruse_home | it can be, right coppice? |
| 08:51.28 | coppice | quality of service can't be achieved over the internet, but serious hosted PBX isn't done over the internet |
| 08:51.39 | tomcats | qos, encryption, bandwith.. i think there are som amny things like these that forbid it to be done over the internet... |
| 08:52.18 | coppice | and things like this week's almost total loss of internet across asia :-) |
| 08:52.40 | bkruse_home | coppice: woah! |
| 08:52.42 | tomcats | coppice: I agree with you |
| 08:53.29 | tomcats | coppice: so then how is serious hosted pbx done cost-efficently ? |
| 08:54.08 | bkruse_home | tomcats: i think the answer to that is, real hosted pbx's are expensive. |
| 08:54.12 | coppice | over leased bandwidth, which would still have suffered with the earthquake, but rather less |
| 08:55.07 | tomcats | i think thats what we call 'dedicated bandwith' I think its the same... |
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| 08:56.27 | coppice | well, if you don't sign a lease, people aren't likely to dedicate anything to you :-) |
| 08:56.36 | tomcats | lol |
| 08:56.38 | bkruse_home | ha, agreed |
| 08:57.17 | coppice | you need a lot more than 1 CPU for your 240 channels of G.729, though. One CPU might do 50 to 60 channels |
| 08:57.41 | bkruse_home | coppice: yep |
| 08:57.50 | bkruse_home | show translation, its pretty taxing |
| 08:57.59 | tomcats | what about power cpu's would that become cost prohibitive? |
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| 09:10.52 | tomcats | weird.. Does asterisk even compile for power architechture? |
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| 09:19.18 | `Sean | Hey, guys got some good suggestion for SIP termination providers? |
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| 09:23.24 | RahaiL | can one tell me what kind off udp port i have to allow |
| 09:23.28 | RahaiL | order to use iax2 |
| 09:23.34 | RahaiL | my firewall is block |
| 09:23.37 | RahaiL | blocking8 |
| 09:27.12 | *** part/#asterisk isladelobos (n=username@215.Red-81-35-186.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:28.14 | RahaiL | any one wake |
| 09:28.15 | RahaiL | hello |
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| 09:30.39 | `Sean | RahaiL do you know, asterisk is OpenSource?, well do you also know people in this channel Volunteer to help out others, they do not get paid, so regardless weather there awake or not, it depends on there mood and if they want to answer, and majourity of these people are goine to a new yrs party(S), wich are better then sitting on irc!. |
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| 09:31.32 | RahaiL | :) |
| 09:31.43 | RahaiL | I do understand that `Sean |
| 09:32.03 | `Sean | so then why this? |
| 09:32.04 | `Sean | [4:30am] <RahaiL> any one wake |
| 09:32.04 | `Sean | [4:30am] <RahaiL> hello |
| 09:32.13 | RahaiL | :) |
| 09:32.29 | `Sean | its nothing to smile about, they wont help you regardless if there awake or not, if they dont want ... |
| 09:32.37 | `Sean | so in my opinion that was just plain stupid.. |
| 09:32.50 | RahaiL | oki doki |
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| 09:35.32 | RahaiL | `Sean do you mind telling me if you are in mood |
| 09:36.11 | `Sean | Umm to be quite honest, not really im getting ready for bed its 4:40 am here :(,. |
| 09:36.21 | `Sean | are you on linux? |
| 09:36.22 | RahaiL | ok |
| 09:36.25 | RahaiL | yes |
| 09:36.27 | `Sean | or what kind of firewall you using? |
| 09:36.36 | `Sean | iptables right? |
| 09:36.49 | RahaiL | i am using m0n0wall |
| 09:37.03 | `Sean | Sigh i cant help then |
| 09:37.11 | `Sean | ive never used it dont know how it works ;) |
| 09:37.20 | RahaiL | just tell me which udp and rtp port |
| 09:37.23 | RahaiL | i need to allow |
| 09:37.28 | RahaiL | then i think it will work |
| 09:38.19 | `Sean | Sigh RahaiL you didn't read, Handbook. i assume or any documentation on voip-info |
| 09:38.55 | `Sean | it tells you wich ports, it also gives you exactly what to put into iptables.... |
| 09:39.01 | `Sean | and from that you could get youre info |
| 09:39.06 | `Sean | howerver, im going to bed goodnite |
| 09:39.12 | RahaiL | gn |
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| 10:11.23 | luisjose | I need a good softphone (iax or sip) for linux, with applet integration. |
| 10:11.30 | luisjose | Any suggestion? |
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| 10:13.10 | ariaveta | applet? you mean java applet? |
| 10:15.47 | luisjose | ariaveta, no, gnome applet |
| 10:16.05 | ariaveta | no idea, sorry :-( |
| 10:18.31 | bkruse | luisjose ekiga |
| 10:19.07 | luisjose | bkruse, its buggy |
| 10:19.24 | luisjose | bkruse, I've been trying to use it for months and is still very buggy |
| 10:19.30 | ariaveta | i agree |
| 10:19.47 | luisjose | Can I use Gizmo? |
| 10:20.00 | luisjose | Can gizmo get registered to an asterisk account? |
| 10:20.53 | bkruse | does it support sip |
| 10:20.56 | luisjose | xten xlite is not bad but has no applet or any gnome integration which sucks, is annoying have it opened all the time, or even minimized |
| 10:21.08 | bkruse | ekiga! |
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| 10:28.51 | luisjose | Wow |
| 10:28.56 | luisjose | I think I found a bug |
| 10:29.02 | luisjose | *CLI> Dec 31 06:28:15 NOTICE[65728]: chan_sip.c:7250 check_user_full: From address missing 'sip:', using it anyway |
| 10:29.02 | luisjose | Dec 31 06:28:15 WARNING[65728]: chan_sip.c:6785 get_destination: Huh? Not a SIP header (SIP:norma)? |
| 10:29.02 | luisjose | Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe |
| 10:29.02 | luisjose | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
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| 10:40.12 | markit | luisjose: seems that developers are not awake |
| 10:40.22 | markit | luisjose: btw, do you use 1.4? |
| 10:41.40 | luisjose | marexz, no, 1.2 |
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| 11:18.46 | ariaveta | I have a doubt |
| 11:19.13 | ariaveta | in the example sip.conf shipped with asterisk i read: |
| 11:19.27 | ariaveta | Tip 2: Use separate type=peer and type=user sections for SIP providers |
| 11:19.38 | ariaveta | (instead of type=friend) if you have calls in both directions |
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| 11:26.07 | So3kris | hello know somebody how i can configer a incomming line for asterisknow |
| 11:26.49 | MadCamel | I know this is a messed up way to want to do things, but I'm looking for a way to use the dial application to dial back into another context/extension.. Loopback if you will.. is there a way to do this without doing funky things with sip/iax? |
| 11:27.08 | MadCamel | Damn AGI.. |
| 11:28.46 | MadCamel | it's realy neet and powerful and all, but when you have to kludge around something, you really have to *kludge* :P |
| 11:30.44 | MadCamel | oic. Dial(Local/exten@context). Hm. Answered my own question |
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| 11:47.28 | W3sT | is there anyone hee to know how can i configure asterisk to work calling to inmarsat |
| 11:47.29 | W3sT | ? |
| 11:50.01 | W3sT | ? |
| 11:50.01 | monsted | W3sT: just call via POTS - is there any other way to get to inmarsat? |
| 11:50.42 | W3sT | monsted: what do you mean by call via POTS . what is POTS |
| 11:51.03 | monsted | Plain Old Telephone System |
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| 11:51.18 | monsted | just make a regular call via your SIP provider or a phone line |
| 11:51.24 | W3sT | do you have a link or something? |
| 11:51.54 | RahaiL | I am having problem with my aduio |
| 11:51.59 | RahaiL | its just one way audio on iax2 |
| 11:52.05 | RahaiL | any one have any idea |
| 11:52.09 | W3sT | i know is working via regular phone line but i am interesed in make it working trough asterisk |
| 11:52.19 | kizmet | RahaiL, Is your asterisk machine behind a firewall ? |
| 11:52.26 | RahaiL | yes |
| 11:52.43 | kizmet | RahaiL, have you got the RTP port forwards setup ? |
| 11:52.44 | RahaiL | i did open udp port |
| 11:52.51 | monsted | W3sT: if you can call a regular phone number from asterisk, you can call inmarsat |
| 11:52.58 | RahaiL | what are the rtp port for iax |
| 11:53.12 | kizmet | RahaiL, check your /etc/asterisk/rtp.conf |
| 11:53.30 | monsted | W3sT: to asterisk, inmarsat is no different than any other telephone number |
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| 11:53.34 | RahaiL | rtpstart=10000 |
| 11:53.34 | RahaiL | rtpend=20000 |
| 11:53.38 | kizmet | RahaiL, it is generally a rance from 10000 to 20000 |
| 11:53.42 | kizmet | *range |
| 11:54.14 | W3sT | it isn`t working . i mean i configured my asterisk to cal in the US using nufone and the inmarsat number starts with +873 |
| 11:54.19 | RahaiL | kizmet I am using m0n0wall |
| 11:54.22 | RahaiL | so on protocal |
| 11:54.29 | W3sT | and i don`t know to configure it to call to +873 |
| 11:55.22 | monsted | W3sT: same way you configured it to call the US |
| 11:55.22 | kizmet | RahaiL, Just forward UDP 10000-20000 to your Asterisk machines IP address. |
| 11:55.22 | RahaiL | it got udp tcp udp/tcp ICMP ESP |
| 11:55.22 | RahaiL | i did that |
| 11:55.22 | W3sT | monsted: so i only have to change the exten => _XXXXXXXXXX,1 with exten => _XXXXXXXXXX,8 |
| 11:55.24 | W3sT | that is what you are trying to say? |
| 11:55.38 | W3sT | and that is all? |
| 11:55.54 | kizmet | RahaiL, have you tried forwarding UDP 4569 as well ? |
| 11:56.00 | RahaiL | yes |
| 11:56.07 | kizmet | RahaiL, hmmmph. |
| 11:56.22 | kizmet | RahaiL, There is no reason why it wouldnt be working. |
| 11:56.45 | RahaiL | dont get it |
| 11:56.49 | RahaiL | even i change all the codec |
| 11:57.01 | kizmet | RahaiL, My asterisk machines here sit behind 3 Firewalls and 1 Nat Router and I dont even have any port forwarding. |
| 11:57.08 | monsted | W3sT: err, no, you need to change the call pattern - it's not just the 1 |
| 11:57.09 | RahaiL | kizmet |
| 11:57.14 | RahaiL | it was working fine |
| 11:57.18 | RahaiL | after upgrading |
| 11:57.22 | RahaiL | I am having this problem |
| 11:57.36 | RahaiL | do you think i have to do anything else order to get those codec working |
| 11:57.40 | RahaiL | I am thinking its codec problem |
| 11:58.05 | kizmet | May be, I personally havent upgraded because the channel driver I am using isnt compatable with 1.4 |
| 11:58.23 | kizmet | However 1.2.14 is working fine for me. |
| 11:58.36 | RahaiL | after upgrade what else you need to |
| 11:58.42 | RahaiL | so all the module codec work properly |
| 11:59.29 | kizmet | RahaiL, It should be working fine, I just use an outdated Cisco channel driver. |
| 11:59.40 | kizmet | RahaiL, nothing to do with IAX |
| 12:00.17 | RahaiL | i didnt upgrade asterisk |
| 12:00.21 | kizmet | RahaiL, in your IAX.conf have you got under the provider context nat=yes ? |
| 12:00.22 | RahaiL | i upgrade freepbx |
| 12:00.36 | kizmet | RahaiL, Please seek assistance in #freepbx |
| 12:01.02 | markit | anyone with 1.4 and using assisted transfer? (*2) anyone with asterisk gui working? it gives me page not found |
| 12:01.13 | RahaiL | secret=2473609 |
| 12:01.13 | RahaiL | nat=yes |
| 12:01.21 | MadCamel | RahaiL, tcpdump -npli <interface> udp, place a call and see if packets are flying in both directions. if they are not, then it is a network problem |
| 12:01.37 | markit | or better, unable to connect at that port |
| 12:02.39 | MadCamel | yeah assuming m0n0wall sends outgoing icmp unreach.. |
| 12:03.10 | RahaiL | something |
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| 12:03.14 | RahaiL | is flooding |
| 12:03.36 | RahaiL | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:03.40 | RahaiL | when i do this |
| 12:03.45 | RahaiL | i cant bearly read |
| 12:05.38 | markit | RahaiL: maybe running it inside the "console logging" script command can help... script log.txt then run the command, then when you have finished type "exit" and have a look at log.txt |
| 12:05.58 | monsted | W3sT: read the manuals and make a call pattern that matches the inmarsat numbers |
| 12:07.43 | RahaiL | snap... man |
| 12:07.44 | RahaiL | grr |
| 12:09.20 | RahaiL | SIP is working fine |
| 12:09.29 | RahaiL | but I do not get it why Iax2 giving this kind of issue |
| 12:12.08 | MadCamel | arg. I need to pass channel vars through chained Dial()'s. ie: Llama=555, Dial(Local/1@context/n), <in context:> SayNumber(${Llama}) |
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| 12:12.37 | MadCamel | it'll pass callerid info if I use the "o" flag on dial, but no other vars |
| 12:12.43 | W3sT | monsted: i am new with asterisk |
| 12:12.59 | W3sT | monsted: that`s whhy i`m asking for your help |
| 12:13.06 | monsted | W3sT: you'll need to know it for pretty much everything you do, so you might as well learn now :) |
| 12:13.40 | W3sT | monsted: and can you be so kind to teach me .. i`m a good learner |
| 12:13.41 | W3sT | :)) |
| 12:14.12 | monsted | W3sT: i'm a crap teacher :) |
| 12:14.27 | W3sT | monsted: i bet you aren`t |
| 12:14.39 | W3sT | please make me a gift for the new year |
| 12:14.40 | W3sT | :)) |
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| 12:14.51 | monsted | W3sT: but you can probably figure it out, just by looking through the examples in the config file or if you take a look in the asterisk book |
| 12:14.54 | monsted | ~thebook |
| 12:15.01 | jbot | thebook is probably a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 12:15.14 | W3sT | monsted: yes i know that but i need to make it work trough nufone |
| 12:15.49 | W3sT | :) |
| 12:15.52 | monsted | W3sT: if you could get US calls to work through nufone, i'm sure you can figure out the inmarsat ones - it's just a different phone number |
| 12:16.38 | W3sT | yes i know is something simple but :( |
| 12:17.15 | MadCamel | Answering my own question yet again, prefix the var name with _ and it is inherited. Damn, they thought of everything *snaps fingers* |
| 12:18.27 | MadCamel | been at this for 14 hours, I read and read the docs, then ask a question that's documented, then notice that it's documented.. I think I'll just go to bed :) |
| 12:18.27 | RahaiL | ?? upgrade |
| 12:18.31 | RahaiL | ? upgrade |
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| 12:25.43 | RahaiL | ~ upgrade |
| 12:25.51 | jbot | upgrade is probably remove opie*, qpe* and qte* packages manually [use shell magic, if applicable] and install task-opie-minimal. what you should do when ls /home/*/pr0n/ lags your CPU for three hours and puts the load at 5 |
| 12:25.51 | RahaiL | ~upgrade |
| 12:25.52 | jbot | [upgrade] remove opie*, qpe* and qte* packages manually [use shell magic, if applicable] and install task-opie-minimal. what you should do when ls /home/*/pr0n/ lags your CPU for three hours and puts the load at 5 |
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| 12:43.12 | isladelobos | happy new year |
| 12:45.26 | FaithX | anyone got chan_gsm_bt or chan_bluetooth running? |
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| 13:01.00 | `Sean | ~g729 |
| 13:01.04 | jbot | rumour has it, g729 is It was in November 1995 that the G.729 standard, also referred to as CS-ACELP was adopted by the ITU, a United Nations organization. Similar, quality-wise, to 32 kbps ADPCM, G.729 offers toll quality speech. Furthermore, being only an 8 kbps codec, G.729 offers opportunities for significant increases in bandwidth utilization to existing ... |
| 13:06.18 | Strom_M | similar? |
| 13:07.16 | Strom_M | is that similar to g726 in the same way that sticking your face in a cheese grater is similar to a relaxing massage? |
| 13:07.36 | markit | ITU should avoid what is not available to everyone |
| 13:08.22 | coppice | similar - english goes in, english comes out :-) |
| 13:08.28 | Strom_M | markit, what you mean? |
| 13:08.55 | markit | isn't g729 patented and available only under license? |
| 13:09.09 | markit | btw, sw patents kill innovation |
| 13:09.33 | coppice | markit: if the ITU took that stance it would be unable to standardise most things |
| 13:10.25 | markit | coppice: should impose to give up patents on what it standarizes, otherwise not make it a standard |
| 13:10.48 | markit | making a proprietary tecnology a standard is like granting a monopoly worldwide to someone, it's madness |
| 13:10.49 | coppice | then there would be few standards |
| 13:11.00 | markit | does not matter, doesn't it? |
| 13:11.17 | markit | like the gsm phone shame... |
| 13:11.42 | markit | they used public money to develop tecnology, and then patented it |
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| 13:12.10 | coppice | nope. companies used their own money to develop GSM, no pulbic money went into it |
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| 13:12.36 | markit | I know a different story... should check |
| 13:12.49 | monsted | standardizing something people can buy licenses for is better than having no standards at all |
| 13:12.50 | coppice | public money probably went into UMTS, in the form of eureka projects |
| 13:13.57 | coppice | markit: so name an area were public money went into GSM |
| 13:16.43 | coppice | oooh, its gone quiet :-) |
| 13:17.00 | markit | googling |
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| 13:22.21 | markit | can't find details about it, only that in europe there was a merge of 26 companies, and I remember they were helped with public money, but can't find the source right now |
| 13:22.33 | markit | if you can find the contrary, you are welcome, coppice |
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| 13:23.23 | coppice | I worked on it. I know we got nothing from the EU |
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| 13:24.34 | `Sean | lol |
| 13:24.37 | `Sean | anything that has licences |
| 13:24.41 | `Sean | can be broken pretty much :S |
| 13:24.44 | coppice | the interesting thing about GSM development is the operators were so keen to get a digital standard they put up significant amounts of their own money. for most standards its only equipment vendors that fund development |
| 13:24.49 | `Sean | they say where there is a will there is a way |
| 13:25.12 | `Sean | anyway im off to be gnite |
| 13:25.54 | markit | coppice: is it true that each secretely patented piece of gsm tecnology? |
| 13:27.37 | coppice | there are actually rather few patents on early GSM technology. It became a scramble later. ETSI requires participants to be pretty open about patent issues, and they usually are. Most key bits of GSM were proposed by one company, then fine tuned in discussions |
| 13:29.13 | markit | http://www.gsmworld.com/about/history.shtml <-- states only 1984 GSM Project endorsed by the European Commission |
| 13:29.27 | markit | no money is mentioned... |
| 13:29.52 | coppice | no money was paid. participants even had to pay to rent committee rooms |
| 13:30.31 | markit | ok, thanks for having destroied a false beliving I had |
| 13:31.05 | markit | back to * 1.4, anyone using assisted transfer? seems broken to me (worked with 1.2) |
| 13:31.09 | Strom_M | markit, next time, try not to get your data from the Crazy Hippie Leftist Anti-Everything Information Center ;) |
| 13:31.53 | coppice | UMTS is probably different. Eureka was heavily funded, and they gave rise to a lot of the neat european technology in CDMA, OFDM and other good stuff. Much of that probably went into UMTS |
| 13:31.58 | markit | Strom_M: well, software patents are a bitting reality for you, not for me, fortunatly, so you should care first ;) |
| 13:32.28 | coppice | what have software patents got to dowith GSM anyway? |
| 13:32.58 | markit | coppice: I started the discussion about not be good make standards of patented software, like g729 |
| 13:34.03 | markit | and afaik, gsm patents are about protocols and software, no? |
| 13:34.27 | markit | or just about cell phone colors or UI? |
| 13:34.42 | coppice | you can ignore the software patents on G.729. There are only a couple, and they only apply in the US. Its all the non software patents that lock down G.729 |
| 13:35.07 | markit | coppice: what do you mean? |
| 13:35.32 | coppice | There are probably a few patents related to software in GSM, but you can usually work around those. The key patents are not software ones |
| 13:35.51 | coppice | do you actually have any idea what a software patent is? |
| 13:36.51 | markit | yes, sure, there are plenty around... see creative suing apple for the "selection song based on somethingIdon'trecall" or "one click buy" or "ping" or whatever |
| 13:37.18 | markit | M$ patented XML for storing word processor files, for instance |
| 13:37.25 | coppice | and what does that have to do with, say, a speech codec? |
| 13:37.26 | markit | has granted new patents on RSS.. |
| 13:37.37 | markit | MP3 is patented |
| 13:37.44 | markit | JPEG also |
| 13:37.57 | markit | if you do anything with software, be sure a lot of patents cover it |
| 13:38.05 | markit | there are around 300,000 in USA |
| 13:38.08 | markit | no escape ;) |
| 13:38.16 | markit | just hope not to be sued |
| 13:38.54 | markit | but I would simply love to know why the 1.4 assisted transfer seems to ignore the dtmf, lol |
| 13:39.14 | coppice | There is a key patent on MP3, but its not a software patent. That's the one vorbis had to work around |
| 13:40.14 | markit | vorbis is not MP3.... maybe their "key patents" are not wide enough, this time |
| 13:41.10 | markit | http://press.ffii.org/Software_patent_news <--- up to dated news, if you are interested in the subject |
| 13:41.42 | markit | but sure you are able to find plenty of sources on the subject |
| 13:42.15 | coppice | of course vorbis isn't MP3. the key patent on MP3 wouldn't be key if you could work around it and make something MP3 compatible, would it? |
| 13:42.36 | Strom_M | "Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure" - yeah, they sound COMPLETELY unbiased </sarcasm> |
| 13:42.52 | markit | http://www.cptech.org/ip/business/software/audio.html seems sw patents to me |
| 13:43.24 | markit | Strom_M: you are free of think that sw patents are a good thing :) |
| 13:43.30 | coppice | they also seem clueless. They munch together a whole mass of stuff. Some are software patents. others are completely unrelated to software |
| 13:44.01 | markit | "they" who? that's a news site about the general situation |
| 13:44.09 | markit | if you are referring to FFII news page |
| 13:44.20 | coppice | markit: nobody said they think software patents are a good things. however, its meaningless to argue when you haven't a clue what you are talking about |
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| 13:44.39 | markit | coppice: you have instead, I suppose |
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| 13:44.55 | coppice | The FFII combines a good anti-bad patents stance with a whole mass of clueless drivel |
| 13:45.09 | Mattwj2005 | hi everyone :) |
| 13:45.21 | Mattwj2005 | I was wondering is there any developers in the room? |
| 13:47.06 | markit | Mattwj2005: me also... do you have * 1.4 by chanche? |
| 13:47.14 | Mattwj2005 | the only reason I ask is because I wanted to share my thanks....the new Asterisk GUI is awesome and I appreciate your hard work :) |
| 13:47.28 | Mattwj2005 | chanche? what do you mean? |
| 13:47.45 | markit | chance |
| 13:48.12 | markit | Mattwj2005: I've tried the asterisk gui also... could you give me some help? was not able to have it work... |
| 13:48.42 | markit | Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 192.168.1.252:8088 |
| 13:48.53 | markit | not very promising, inst't it? |
| 13:49.00 | Mattwj2005 | welll to be honest I cheated and I am trying Asterisk NOW |
| 13:49.07 | Mattwj2005 | :( |
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| 13:49.35 | markit | lol, never mind |
| 13:49.37 | Mattwj2005 | I downloaded the VMware image and I am running it through that just to play |
| 13:52.22 | Mattwj2005 | I am just surprise how easy some things are and how well the gui works |
| 13:53.59 | Mattwj2005 | meet me was always something I had trouble with |
| 13:54.22 | markit | ok, in the meantime, probably I have it work now |
| 13:54.34 | markit | s/work/working |
| 13:54.39 | Mattwj2005 | I tried trixbox but it had too much extra stuff and compiling from source was a pain....this is great balance between the two |
| 13:54.56 | Mattwj2005 | cool |
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| 13:58.24 | kumbalae | hi my cisco 7960 is resetting and it not registering to my asterisk, can anyone please help ? |
| 13:59.16 | nibbler_de | yup |
| 13:59.40 | nibbler_de | his name is tcpdump ;) |
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| 14:10.47 | nsar | hello |
| 14:10.55 | ariaveta | does anyone have experience/pointers for setting asterisk and bluetooth? |
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| 14:11.32 | nsar | to calling a phone number and the voip provider to charging even the otherside is not answering is my problem or problem of the provider? |
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| 14:13.28 | saftsack | hi, how is it possible to jump into another extensions regarding the callerid? |
| 14:14.53 | jpsaman | does oh323 support video? |
| 14:29.05 | ^eugenics | Hello |
| 14:29.56 | ^eugenics | I have some *nix skills, so I thought it would not be to hard to set up a asterisk system... |
| 14:30.17 | ^eugenics | But i have runned into trouble |
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| 14:30.42 | rob0-dfw | It can be done. :) |
| 14:30.43 | ^eugenics | I can access asterisk -h and that works |
| 14:30.50 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: like everyone here :-) |
| 14:31.22 | ^eugenics | Does anyone have more ways to test if the thing is running like it should? |
| 14:31.33 | ^eugenics | ariaveta, :) |
| 14:31.53 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: asterisk -r |
| 14:31.54 | nsar | to calling a phone number and the voip provider to charging even the otherside is not answering is my problem or problem of the provider? |
| 14:32.07 | ^eugenics | I tried the basic examples with softphones but no luck so far |
| 14:32.51 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: with asterisk -r you have a commandline into asterisk |
| 14:33.20 | nsar | do i have to use option r on dial command? |
| 14:33.33 | ^eugenics | ariaveta, I get Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl exist?) |
| 14:33.47 | ^eugenics | did I miss something? |
| 14:34.10 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: and ps what is telling you? |
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| 14:40.41 | ^eugenics | ??? |
| 14:41.10 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: did you check asterisk is running using 'ps'? |
| 14:41.12 | ^eugenics | I tried to update my asterisk.conf file to allow -r |
| 14:41.26 | ^eugenics | I will look |
| 14:44.04 | ^eugenics | ariaveta, It does not seem to be there |
| 14:44.21 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: how did you start it? |
| 14:44.35 | saftsack | do i still need zaptel and so on with the new asterisk 1.4.0 package, or is it included? |
| 14:44.46 | ^eugenics | but when I start my init.d script is says asterisk is started |
| 14:45.09 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: try starting it by hands |
| 14:46.19 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: and/or take a look in the logs |
| 14:48.12 | ^eugenics | eh, my init.d script looks kind of messy, what would be a clean line to start asterisk (I hope you dont kill me for such a newbe question)? |
| 14:49.22 | ^eugenics | rtm maybe ;) |
| 14:49.32 | RoyK | PEBKAC |
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| 14:49.52 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: 1) I'm a newbie too 2) try safe_asterisk 3) I hope noone will kill us ;-) |
| 14:49.53 | ^eugenics | pebac? |
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| 14:51.09 | ^eugenics | I get /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: 93: Syntax error: Bad fd number but it seemes it got up |
| 14:52.13 | ^eugenics | no it didnt work |
| 14:52.32 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: check at line 93 of safe_asterisk script |
| 14:52.49 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: and/or have a look at the logs |
| 14:53.17 | ^eugenics | I should start with the logs |
| 14:53.23 | ^eugenics | I think |
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| 15:12.56 | BSDTech | fix 1.4 |
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| 15:15.02 | markit | BSDTech: do you use 1.4? and assisted transfer *2? (features.conf) |
| 15:15.44 | BSDTech | well at the min I cant use 1,4 being its not transcoding g729 |
| 15:17.01 | markit | I don't use g729, I can't confirm you the issue |
| 15:17.29 | markit | so for being the "stable" 1.4 seems to have some really strange problems, isn't it? |
| 15:19.19 | BSDTech | yeah I know they are working on some issues and i think 1.4.1 will be out soon I hope |
| 15:19.36 | BSDTech | 1.4 is getting a bad rep fast |
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| 15:19.45 | russellb | it's a .0 release, cut us some slack :-p |
| 15:19.59 | BSDTech | no never |
| 15:20.03 | BSDTech | forget it |
| 15:20.19 | BSDTech | its 1.4 it should have been double checked before release |
| 15:20.23 | russellb | ok, then you can ask for your money back |
| 15:20.39 | BSDTech | someone was slacking in the test department |
| 15:21.09 | russellb | i'm sorry, but there is no test department for open source, free, asterisk. |
| 15:21.15 | BSDTech | well transcoding worked in beta3 but broke in full release |
| 15:21.26 | russellb | that's rather bizarre |
| 15:21.31 | russellb | but it will be fixed very soon |
| 15:21.35 | russellb | whatever the issue is |
| 15:21.46 | markit | or people that does beta tester are not well considered by developers, or whatever |
| 15:22.20 | BSDTech | well I am testing it as best I can . we plan to get freepbx working with it but have to make sure its stable first |
| 15:22.51 | russellb | the g729 thing was never mentioned to us before release |
| 15:22.53 | markit | BSDTech: are you from freepbx project? wondered why a gui has been called freepbx... |
| 15:23.11 | russellb | which made us quite angry, actually |
| 15:23.12 | BSDTech | ask X_rob about the name |
| 15:23.31 | BSDTech | but yes I work on freepbx and document issues |
| 15:23.33 | markit | russellb: are you aware of any issue about assisted transfer *2? seems is ignoring dtmf tones here (worked with 1.2) |
| 15:24.01 | russellb | markit: nope, i'm not. i assume you have it correctly set to *2 in features.conf ... |
| 15:24.13 | markit | russellb: same setup as in 1.2 |
| 15:24.46 | markit | me and the other party are lissening the dtmf tone, is not "intercepted" by * |
| 15:24.48 | russellb | is this a production box? |
| 15:25.11 | markit | russellb: no, a test box... I'm not in production, until visdn is working |
| 15:25.13 | BSDTech | 1.4 on production you crazy |
| 15:25.16 | BSDTech | lol |
| 15:25.22 | RoyK | BSDTech: rotfl |
| 15:25.36 | russellb | :) |
| 15:25.41 | ruskie | lol |
| 15:25.46 | BSDTech | thanks |
| 15:25.48 | ^eugenics | ariaveta, wich log would be the most interesting to look in? (for a crach start debug) |
| 15:25.49 | russellb | markit: SIP, i guess? what dtmf mode? |
| 15:25.53 | BSDTech | feeling the love this am |
| 15:25.56 | RoyK | I'm more willing to put openpbx 1.2 into production than asterisk 1.4 |
| 15:26.26 | ^eugenics | Wich log would be the most interesting to look in? (for a crach start debug) |
| 15:26.27 | markit | dtmfmode=rfc2833 (as in 1.2) |
| 15:26.55 | RoyK | ^eugenics: did asterisk crash? |
| 15:26.58 | BSDTech | now why is it you guys dont like freepbx its 100% better the asterisk@home. wich is now trixbox. |
| 15:27.00 | russellb | markit: try running "rtp debug" to verify that the phone is actually sending it via rfc2833 |
| 15:27.20 | BSDTech | freepbx gui is 100% better then the asterisk gui |
| 15:27.33 | ^eugenics | RoyK, dont know yet, but it only shows in ps for a short while |
| 15:27.40 | russellb | the asterisk gui is brand new, and still under development. |
| 15:27.42 | markit | I tried when I helped fix a issue regarding a wrong patch in 1.2 code that prevented dtmf to be get by asterisk, but produces a huge output, was unable to look at it |
| 15:27.54 | BSDTech | I just tested *2 and it works fine so check your dtmf settings |
| 15:27.58 | RoyK | ^eugenics: try starting it in the foreground. asterisk -gvvvvvvc |
| 15:27.58 | markit | (that bug prevented also IVR functionality, while now IVR gets dtmf) |
| 15:28.00 | RoyK | ^eugenics: try starting it in the foreground. asterisk -gvvvvvvdddddddc |
| 15:28.01 | ^eugenics | hopefully a conf err |
| 15:28.42 | ^eugenics | wow :) |
| 15:28.56 | markit | BSDTech: in 1.2 worked here also, is a 1.4 issue! |
| 15:29.09 | BSDTech | but they are duplicating what the freepbx gui does and what the thirdlane has done |
| 15:29.13 | russellb | markit: well i'd like to know whether your phone is actually sending rfc2833 or not |
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| 15:29.26 | BSDTech | the thirdlane interface is nice but lacks a db interface |
| 15:29.33 | markit | the situation is simple... 1.2 working, 1.4 installed, and .conf adapted.. but *2 not working in 1.4 |
| 15:29.39 | BSDTech | I just tested it on 1,4 and it works |
| 15:29.50 | BSDTech | I have 3 phones on my desk |
| 15:29.51 | ^eugenics | here is one error Dec 31 16:28:32 WARNING[7941]: res_musiconhold.c:852 moh_register: Unable to open pseudo channel for timing... Sound may be choppy. |
| 15:29.51 | ^eugenics | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.03 | BSDTech | called from 1 to 2 and transferd 2 to 3 |
| 15:30.10 | ^eugenics | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.19 | blitzrage | ^eugenics: load ztdummy |
| 15:30.27 | BSDTech | that means you have no timing source |
| 15:30.31 | markit | russellb: sure, I understand, but is there a better way? as I told, rtp debug produces a hell of output, and console buffer is limited... any idea? |
| 15:30.37 | BSDTech | rebuild your zaptel |
| 15:30.40 | markit | BSDTech: oh, yes |
| 15:30.44 | BSDTech | and reinstall it |
| 15:30.48 | markit | zaptel does not build |
| 15:30.52 | russellb | BSDTech: the asterisk gui is extremely different. It works without *any* extra software. It communicates directly with the built-in http server in asterisk, using the manager interface over http. |
| 15:30.57 | markit | ok, that's the reason then |
| 15:31.11 | russellb | markit: ethereal or wireshark, i suppose ... |
| 15:31.24 | blitzrage | or redirect the output to a file using tee |
| 15:31.26 | markit | russellb: seems is a timing problem, if BSDTech is right |
| 15:31.33 | markit | and zdummy is necessary |
| 15:31.45 | russellb | um, it should not have any effect |
| 15:31.49 | markit | ah |
| 15:31.53 | ^eugenics | blitzrage, I dont have a command like ztdummy |
| 15:31.59 | russellb | i think he was talking to ^eugenics |
| 15:32.01 | blitzrage | ^eugenics: that's not a command -- its a driver |
| 15:32.08 | ^eugenics | sorry |
| 15:32.15 | markit | russellb: ah, ok :) |
| 15:32.21 | BSDTech | but if you use the native moh player then it should not need timing |
| 15:32.31 | BSDTech | but if your using mpg123 you suck |
| 15:32.54 | BSDTech | they need to take mpg123 out of the 1.2 requirements |
| 15:33.07 | BSDTech | mpg123 is crap |
| 15:33.12 | russellb | it's not a requirement ... just an option |
| 15:33.30 | BSDTech | at 1 point it use to build it |
| 15:33.34 | BSDTech | I remember |
| 15:33.37 | markit | russellb: I try with rtp debug and "script" command |
| 15:33.39 | russellb | BSDTech: no, it never did that |
| 15:34.01 | russellb | BSDTech: there is a "make mpg123" makefile target you could use, for convenience |
| 15:34.07 | russellb | but it was never done automatically for you |
| 15:34.48 | BSDTech | I remember what it was it was a link Inever broke that called it from make |
| 15:35.04 | ^eugenics | I dont get this log, can anyone have a fast lock? |
| 15:35.06 | ^eugenics | http://pastebin.com/848493 |
| 15:35.10 | BSDTech | I like madplayer better butthhe native player rocks |
| 15:35.26 | BSDTech | fast lock |
| 15:35.33 | BSDTech | whats a fast lock |
| 15:35.42 | blitzrage | BSDTech: fast look |
| 15:35.54 | BSDTech | I was teasing him |
| 15:35.56 | RoyK | hi. according to the asterisk docs, setting the call forward number should be done by setting CALLERID(rdnis)=something, but Q.931 says this is a network-to-user extension (table 3.2.9, note 18). Any idea how this can be done user->network according to standard? |
| 15:35.58 | BSDTech | I have humor |
| 15:36.37 | markit | russellb: http://pastebin.ca/298095 |
| 15:37.05 | RoyK | BSDTech: the native player always starts the song from the beginning. i'd rather have the users fall into a stream like radio |
| 15:37.21 | blitzrage | RoyK: later version of asterisk simulates that I'm pretty sure |
| 15:37.34 | markit | mmm I should have cut a lot of crap, lol |
| 15:37.36 | RoyK | blitzrage: simulates what? |
| 15:37.38 | ^eugenics | Anyone have an idea why asterisk dont sttart from this log? http://pastebin.com/848493 |
| 15:38.02 | blitzrage | RoyK: what you just said about starting not from the beginning all the time |
| 15:38.06 | BSDTech | asterisk -vvvvvgr and tell use where it fails |
| 15:38.11 | blitzrage | pretty sure I saw a commit for that a while ago |
| 15:38.24 | RoyK | blitzrage: oh. that... ok |
| 15:39.05 | russellb | markit: that's rfc2833 :) |
| 15:39.14 | russellb | markit: i really need some equipment to try it myself ... |
| 15:39.22 | russellb | BSDTech: when you tried, was it with rfc2833? |
| 15:39.32 | markit | russellb: thanks a lot |
| 15:39.48 | BSDTech | yes |
| 15:39.54 | markit | btw, any way to remove that unfortunate pastebin? I think no... |
| 15:40.10 | russellb | markit: don't worry about it |
| 15:40.42 | markit | it does not expire... |
| 15:41.10 | blitzrage | markit: unless you mark it to expire when you initially post it, nada |
| 15:41.42 | markit | blitzrage: I know, but was in a hurry to keep the developer attention... and I made the mistake not to flag it as to expire |
| 15:42.12 | russellb | i never flag mine to expire, heh |
| 15:42.12 | russellb | oops |
| 15:42.17 | ^eugenics | Anyone have an idea why asterisk dont sttart from this log? http://pastebin.com/848493 |
| 15:42.35 | BSDTech | so any of you get the asterisk pbx dev unit |
| 15:42.45 | BSDTech | how well does it perfor ? |
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| 15:43.20 | blitzrage | markit: oops then |
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| 15:43.42 | blitzrage | ^eugenics: repeating is generally considered rude |
| 15:44.12 | BSDTech | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.17 | BSDTech | ducking |
| 15:44.18 | blitzrage | and its not loading because there is some error in your H.323 driver (either not built correctly, or a bug in the driver itself) |
| 15:44.18 | markit | lol |
| 15:44.25 | ^eugenics | sorry im tired |
| 15:44.30 | blitzrage | go to bed |
| 15:44.40 | BSDTech | H323 sucks |
| 15:44.46 | ^eugenics | i want to get it to work |
| 15:44.51 | Mattwj2005 | IAX is where it is at ;) |
| 15:44.54 | monsted | all of the voip protocols do |
| 15:45.10 | russellb | ooh, protocol trolling <3 |
| 15:45.23 | monsted | IAX is probably the least crappy of the bunch |
| 15:45.41 | blitzrage | telephony sucks. Carrier pigeon is where it's at. |
| 15:45.43 | russellb | monsted: in what way is it crappy? |
| 15:45.48 | Mattwj2005 | I personally have had the best luck with it for anything that goes over the WAN |
| 15:45.52 | Mattwj2005 | sip is fine for the lan |
| 15:46.34 | monsted | i realize it's as much the implementations of the protocols as the protocol designs themselves |
| 15:46.44 | ^eugenics | I will try to reinstall all of it again |
| 15:46.57 | russellb | monsted: so what sucks about IAX2? :) |
| 15:46.59 | ^eugenics | as if anybody would care ;) |
| 15:47.01 | russellb | i want to debate! |
| 15:47.06 | ^eugenics | :) |
| 15:47.08 | blitzrage | russellb: he said it sucks the least :) |
| 15:47.18 | russellb | right, which sounds like it still sucks :-p |
| 15:47.20 | monsted | russellb: it's udp :) |
| 15:47.21 | Mattwj2005 | most ATAs and a lot of softphones don't support it :) |
| 15:47.23 | blitzrage | I suppose it does :) |
| 15:47.38 | russellb | monsted: oh, right, real-time media over TCP makes MUCH more sense!!!! |
| 15:47.41 | russellb | OF COURSE! |
| 15:47.41 | monsted | russellb: and it's mostly useless in the real world where people use real products ;) |
| 15:47.57 | monsted | russellb: well, i had to come up with something ;) |
| 15:47.58 | russellb | i'm talking from a technical standpoint! |
| 15:48.00 | blitzrage | oh come on, you should know that people who think all VoIP protocols suck are the ones who don't have the knowledge to implement any of them satisfactorily |
| 15:48.04 | russellb | monsted: lame! :-p |
| 15:48.19 | russellb | monsted: now SIP, that sucks. |
| 15:48.19 | blitzrage | yah... real time over TCP... that makes tons of sense |
| 15:48.30 | blitzrage | someone doesn't know the difference between UDP and TCP |
| 15:48.46 | kizmet | russellb, IAX owns... Simple |
| 15:48.49 | russellb | 5 different ways to send DTMF <3 |
| 15:48.49 | monsted | SCCP and nortels native protocol seems fairly decent, firewallwise |
| 15:49.04 | blitzrage | MGCP is gonna take over the world. You heard it here first. |
| 15:49.11 | russellb | monsted: but isn't it sad that everyone has to say "screw the standards", and use their own? |
| 15:49.19 | russellb | because the standards group ones totally blow |
| 15:49.19 | monsted | russellb: very |
| 15:49.26 | Mattwj2005 | does the u stand for unpreditable and the t stand for too much lag? |
| 15:49.27 | blitzrage | the great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from! |
| 15:49.31 | Mattwj2005 | :-P |
| 15:49.34 | russellb | Mattwj2005: exactly |
| 15:49.41 | *** join/#asterisk hi365 (n=hi365@bzq-167-158.dsl.bezeqint.net) |
| 15:49.43 | monsted | russellb: cisco is switching to SIP for the next (well, current now) generation of call manager |
| 15:49.56 | russellb | monsted: that's right, i forgot ... |
| 15:50.02 | markit | russellb: are you going to have a look at *2 issue, so you need me, or can I do something else? (in case try to call me in a private query) |
| 15:50.05 | monsted | russellb: should improve the support on their products, making me a slightly happier camper |
| 15:50.08 | kizmet | monsted, thats because they cbf doing things the right way lol |
| 15:50.20 | Qwell | monsted: they'll never fully drop support for sccp |
| 15:50.31 | blitzrage | Qwell: !!! |
| 15:50.34 | Qwell | and all new phones have been sccp, fyi |
| 15:50.35 | russellb | markit: i'm sorry. i looked for a bit. It's hard to guess what your issue is given that it's working for others ... |
| 15:50.41 | hi365 | anyone know what the eventlist blf option is on the grandstream gpx-2000? |
| 15:50.49 | russellb | markit: i'd have to log in and look around, and i can't do that right now, sorry |
| 15:51.02 | markit | russellb: is working for other with 1.4? |
| 15:51.03 | blitzrage | ok... breakfast time! |
| 15:51.05 | kizmet | hi365, have a look at the www.voip-info.org article on it =) |
| 15:51.10 | monsted | Qwell: no, but making SIP part of their default package will make them want to support it better in their firewall and gateway products :) |
| 15:51.25 | russellb | markit: yeah, others in here just tried it. BSDTech did it with 1.4 and rfc2833 |
| 15:51.26 | hi365 | kizmet: didnt c that it was explained there |
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| 15:51.43 | *** part/#asterisk blitzrage (n=blitzrag@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) |
| 15:51.47 | kizmet | hi365, There are links at the bottom of the article to other pages that detail it alot. |
| 15:51.49 | markit | russellb: BSDTech told me he is NOT using 1.4 |
| 15:51.49 | Qwell | monsted: what phone are you using? |
| 15:52.05 | Qwell | I have heard one complaint about dtmf, but it was a bug in ekiga |
| 15:52.06 | markit | BSDTech: did you tried assisted transfer with 1.4? |
| 15:52.08 | hi365 | kizmet: thanks. looking |
| 15:52.11 | russellb | markit: o_O oh ... then maybe i misunderstood |
| 15:52.17 | BSDTech | I have 1.4 |
| 15:52.21 | BSDTech | but it has issues |
| 15:52.30 | markit | BSDTech: but did you tried *2 with 1.4? |
| 15:52.39 | BSDTech | g729 transcoding |
| 15:52.44 | BSDTech | yes |
| 15:52.46 | BSDTech | and it worked |
| 15:53.22 | Qwell | erm, not monsted... markit. see above |
| 15:53.27 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: I have no idea, but try using netstat and looking for applications binding port 1720 |
| 15:53.28 | markit | BSDTech: oh, so strange... for sure? can I have a look at your features.conf? and did you changed the dialplan in some way for transfers? |
| 15:53.40 | hi365 | kizmet: sorry, can i bother you for a link? |
| 15:53.46 | russellb | Qwell: his rtp debug looks normal for the digits |
| 15:53.53 | Qwell | ok |
| 15:53.58 | kizmet | hi365, Yep, NP just hold on a sec. |
| 15:53.59 | BSDTech | nope and hold on |
| 15:54.04 | Qwell | < .5s? |
| 15:54.17 | russellb | Qwell: unknown |
| 15:54.22 | BSDTech | I just turned the box off |
| 15:54.28 | Qwell | that's the main reason I've seen features fail |
| 15:54.29 | BSDTech | to load up my bsd drive |
| 15:54.33 | BSDTech | rebooting it now |
| 15:54.40 | russellb | markit: you should enable debug logging for the console in logger.conf |
| 15:54.43 | kizmet | hi365, I have just msged you a link to a howto =) |
| 15:54.52 | hi365 | BSDTech: hows the cleaning going? |
| 15:54.53 | russellb | markit: and then in asterisk, "set debug 5", or start with -dddd |
| 15:54.59 | hi365 | <kizmet: thanks |
| 15:55.03 | BSDTech | heading off to do it |
| 15:55.15 | markit | russellb: ok, thanks, I will try |
| 15:55.16 | BSDTech | but got a /msg here and it buzzed me |
| 15:55.17 | russellb | markit: and see if you see anything that might help ... or feel free to pastebin all the random crap that comes up |
| 15:55.38 | markit | russellb: thanks very much |
| 15:55.40 | Qwell | russellb: 2 weeks?! |
| 15:55.46 | russellb | Qwell: something like that, heh |
| 15:55.50 | Qwell | w00t! |
| 15:55.58 | russellb | Qwell: but i'm obiously not taking much of a break right now, heh |
| 15:56.02 | Qwell | heh |
| 15:56.13 | Qwell | russellb: I think you knew you weren't really going to ;) |
| 15:56.15 | Mattwj2005 | well guys I am going to jump in my pool for a while....I need to work out |
| 15:56.20 | russellb | Qwell: true |
| 15:56.20 | hi365 | kizmet: thanks again, but im looking for info on the new eventlist blf option |
| 15:56.28 | hi365 | do you know anyhtiong about it? |
| 15:56.40 | russellb | Qwell: i think i just wanted to know that i didn't *have* to |
| 15:56.44 | Qwell | righ |
| 15:56.45 | Qwell | t |
| 15:56.49 | Mattwj2005 | lucky it is warm in Minneapolis :) |
| 15:57.00 | kizmet | hi365, Sorry I dont have any infomation, I havent really been focusing on the GXP's as of late. Have been working with these damed cisco phones =) |
| 15:57.10 | hi365 | no prob. tahnks |
| 15:57.57 | russellb | Mattwj2005: i bet it's warmer here in south carolina :-p |
| 15:58.35 | Mattwj2005 | lol indeed...lucky it is an indoor pool....but I have to walk between buildings....my apartment offers it as a benefit to renting here |
| 15:58.57 | kizmet | russellb, I bet that its hotter here in Canberra Australia, wait... maybe I doubt it tho. Its only 15 degrees atm. |
| 15:59.03 | Qwell | Mattwj2005: heh, builders in MN need to learn... it's all about catwalks |
| 15:59.13 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 15:59.18 | tzafrir | russellb, I haven't had a chance to test chan_console. One small question: does it keep the sound card used even when not on a call? |
| 15:59.21 | Mattwj2005 | I hear you :) |
| 15:59.30 | Mattwj2005 | it is 39 F right now |
| 15:59.38 | tzafrir | that is: can I play something else with alsa at that time? |
| 15:59.39 | Mattwj2005 | above freezing is good for this time of the year |
| 15:59.56 | russellb | tzafrir: no, it shouldn't |
| 16:00.04 | kizmet | heh, its usually 30-40 degrees here =) |
| 16:00.13 | kizmet | celcius that is |
| 16:00.20 | russellb | tzafrir: but that may be implementation specific ... depending on whether it was compiled for oss/alsa/coreaudio/whatever |
| 16:00.42 | Mattwj2005 | I am jealous I can't tell you how many times I dream of drinking a good drink on a nice warm beach :) |
| 16:00.55 | russellb | tzafrir: i have only been using it on my mac so far |
| 16:01.15 | kizmet | Mattwj2005, I live inland =( 3 hr drive to the beach. even then its a crappy beach. 5 hours and im on a nice beach =) |
| 16:01.17 | russellb | and it works fine while i'm listening to music :) |
| 16:01.37 | russellb | I'm about 5-10 minutes from the beach :-p |
| 16:01.39 | Qwell | russellb: neat |
| 16:01.43 | Qwell | russellb: it muxes the audio? |
| 16:02.02 | tzafrir | portaudio 19 supports alsa. I guess I'll check iaxcomm, as it uses portaudio as well |
| 16:02.02 | Mattwj2005 | well I am a few hours from Lake Superior that lake is always good....even when it is 90 or 100 in the summer |
| 16:02.03 | russellb | Qwell: well, not my code, just the way coreaudio works, i guess |
| 16:02.10 | Mattwj2005 | *always cold |
| 16:02.15 | Qwell | still, that's pretty cool.. chan_alsa didn't do that |
| 16:02.29 | russellb | tzafrir: cool. yeah, i'm using pa19 |
| 16:02.51 | Mattwj2005 | anyways enough disrupting....this channel...I will work with AsteriskNOW when I get back....bye all |
| 16:02.51 | kizmet | This summer is a little funny, Its been cold every day heh, All summer so far has been under 35 degrees |
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| 16:05.45 | BSDTech | bbl cleaning time |
| 16:06.30 | ariaveta | does anyone know how to integrate asterisk with my bluetooth phone? |
| 16:08.00 | ariaveta | it would be cool |
| 16:09.02 | ^eugenics | ariaveta, does it have linux drivers? |
| 16:09.24 | ariaveta | you mean the phone, ^eugenics? |
| 16:09.28 | ^eugenics | yep |
| 16:09.41 | ariaveta | no, it doesn't have drivers |
| 16:09.55 | ^eugenics | do you have a xp driver? |
| 16:10.06 | ariaveta | you simply communicate with it using the linux bluetooth stack |
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| 16:10.24 | ^eugenics | ok the |
| 16:10.37 | ariaveta | I don't use XP ;-) |
| 16:10.50 | ^eugenics | do you get a separate ip in the phone? |
| 16:11.15 | Qwell | ^eugenics: no, you don't |
| 16:11.30 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: well afaik you get level2 connectivity |
| 16:11.35 | Qwell | it's just bluetooth |
| 16:11.44 | ^eugenics | does not the phone support sip? |
| 16:11.51 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: no |
| 16:12.22 | ^eugenics | so what do it support then? |
| 16:12.24 | Qwell | ariaveta: is it anything more than just a headset?.. |
| 16:12.51 | ariaveta | Qwell: ? |
| 16:13.12 | ^eugenics | do you have a display on your bt phone? |
| 16:13.19 | ariaveta | it's a nokia 6600, it has some bluetooth capabilities |
| 16:13.39 | ariaveta | ^eugenics: yes, I have a display :-) |
| 16:13.41 | ^eugenics | but no IP tele support? |
| 16:13.57 | Qwell | can it even be used as a bluetooth client? |
| 16:14.09 | Qwell | well, either way |
| 16:14.14 | Qwell | ariaveta: take a look at chan_celliax |
| 16:14.28 | Qwell | I assume that's what you're looking for |
| 16:14.49 | ariaveta | celliax = do I need a iax application on the phone? |
| 16:14.53 | Qwell | no |
| 16:14.59 | Qwell | it's badly named, IMO :) |
| 16:15.17 | ariaveta | ok, let me search on google ... or should I search in the asterisk source? |
| 16:15.25 | markit | russellb: http://pastebin.ca/298121 |
| 16:15.26 | Qwell | google |
| 16:15.39 | Qwell | ariaveta: I know very little about it, but it isn't in asterisk |
| 16:16.59 | ^eugenics | ariaveta, investing? |
| 16:17.06 | russellb | markit: it looks like you may not be pressing "*2" fast enough |
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| 16:17.21 | ariaveta | no ;), I'm investiGAting |
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| 16:17.25 | russellb | go into features.conf, and change the featuredigittimeout option to something higher |
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| 16:17.33 | russellb | markit: 500 is the default, so 1000, or 1500 ... |
| 16:17.41 | Qwell | russellb: we should change that, ya think? |
| 16:17.45 | Qwell | the default |
| 16:17.52 | russellb | Qwell: probably |
| 16:17.57 | russellb | Qwell: 500 is too damn short |
| 16:18.01 | Qwell | agreed |
| 16:18.09 | markit | russellb: would be funny if true, lol |
| 16:18.12 | russellb | was it different in 1.2? |
| 16:18.17 | markit | I left the default "just to be sure |
| 16:18.21 | Qwell | russellb: nope, always been 500 |
| 16:18.29 | markit | let me check my old config |
| 16:18.30 | Qwell | afaik |
| 16:18.34 | russellb | Qwell: probably |
| 16:18.46 | russellb | Qwell: yep |
| 16:18.50 | psy65535 | I have a lame question--what is the recommended way to insert the hostname of a server into a dialplan? (1.2) |
| 16:19.14 | markit | from 1.2 |
| 16:19.19 | markit | ;featuredigittimeout = 500; Max time (ms) between digits for |
| 16:19.19 | markit | ; feature activation. Default is 500 |
| 16:19.35 | luke-jr | Anyone seen mog? |
| 16:19.36 | russellb | markit: yeah, change that to something higher and try again |
| 16:19.40 | russellb | luke-jr: he's on vacation |
| 16:19.41 | Qwell | luke-jr: he's on vacation |
| 16:19.45 | russellb | Qwell: jinx |
| 16:19.45 | luke-jr | ah |
| 16:19.56 | Qwell | russellb: any issues with me changing the default in 1.4 and trunk? |
| 16:20.02 | luke-jr | he doesn't come online on vacations? :p |
| 16:20.09 | Qwell | luke-jr: not where he is :D |
| 16:20.12 | luke-jr | heh |
| 16:20.25 | russellb | Qwell: what do you think it should be changed to? |
| 16:20.31 | Qwell | 1000? |
| 16:20.52 | russellb | Qwell: i agree |
| 16:21.04 | russellb | Qwell: if you feel like changing it, i'll back you up :) |
| 16:21.42 | Qwell | I don't think there will be any side-effects |
| 16:21.49 | markit | russellb: it gets the dtmf now! thanks |
| 16:22.11 | Qwell | well, no negative side-effects :D |
| 16:22.16 | markit | russellb: maybe with 1.2 I had ztdummy and with 1.4 I have not, and timing is not that precise? |
| 16:22.26 | Qwell | markit: that's a different type of timing |
| 16:22.34 | Qwell | it's a weekend, you're just slower |
| 16:22.37 | Qwell | :) |
| 16:22.43 | markit | lol |
| 16:22.50 | Qwell | I blame Christmas |
| 16:23.02 | markit | belive me, I thought I could have been slow, so I tried very fast, but no way |
| 16:23.20 | markit | also seemd that the tone were not "captured" by asterisk |
| 16:23.29 | russellb | markit: no, it's not that |
| 16:23.29 | Qwell | well, the rtp debug showed they were |
| 16:23.44 | russellb | markit: asterisk will pass it through once once it determines it's not for a feature |
| 16:23.58 | markit | yes, thanks for the help |
| 16:24.26 | markit | russellb: yes, but seemd that the tone was heard imediatly after keypress... and was not a problem with that timing and 1.2 |
| 16:24.42 | markit | maybe 1.2 code was buggy ;) |
| 16:24.57 | russellb | heh |
| 16:25.16 | Qwell | there could be an off by 499 bug, heh |
| 16:25.32 | russellb | i don't have any equipment with me to test anything ... |
| 16:25.49 | russellb | i could use my new channel driver <3 |
| 16:25.53 | *** part/#asterisk psy65535 (n=psy65535@24-180-25-172.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 16:25.59 | russellb | but that would be SIP ... |
| 16:26.24 | russellb | s/would/wouldn't/ |
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| 16:26.51 | russellb | alright, i am getting pretty hungry, i've got to run |
| 16:26.58 | russellb | markit: sorry we didn't figure out where your problem is |
| 16:29.57 | blitzrage | w00t! 1.1448 exchange rate |
| 16:31.03 | Qwell | blitzrage: yay! |
| 16:31.16 | Qwell | blitzrage: now you have to pay the Qwell exchange rate tax. |
| 16:31.21 | blitzrage | means I just made $580 on a $2600 exchange |
| 16:31.39 | markit | russellb: don't be sorry, you have been very helpful and kind :) |
| 16:31.47 | blitzrage | Qwell: uh oh |
| 16:31.57 | blitzrage | Qwell: I'll pay it in beers at AstriCon |
| 16:32.03 | Qwell | works for me |
| 16:32.13 | blitzrage | easy to please |
| 16:34.15 | Corydon76-home | Enough to make you very interesting afterwards. ;-) |
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| 16:40.03 | Mattwj2005 | nothing like a good old swim :) |
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| 16:45.53 | Mattwj2005 | so when is someone going to build an official #asterisk channel conference bridge? |
| 16:47.35 | EriSanHome | hi all, is there a way to block certain outgoing numbers? |
| 16:48.03 | blitzrage | EriSanHome: sure, match on them in your dialplan |
| 16:48.31 | blitzrage | use a general pattern match, then also add your blocked numbers in the same context. More specific matches first. |
| 16:48.45 | EriSanHome | can you point me to an exaple please (i'm not very skilled on asterisk) |
| 16:48.50 | EriSanHome | *example |
| 16:49.04 | blitzrage | exten => _NXXNXXXXXX,1,NoOp(General match) |
| 16:49.06 | Mattwj2005 | you'll probably want to do a hang up command and maybe a nice message first :) |
| 16:49.10 | rob0 | Just like any extension you would define. |
| 16:49.22 | blitzrage | exten => 8885551212,1,NoOp(More specific match -- block here) |
| 16:49.44 | blitzrage | EriSanHome: and I suggest you go read some documentation |
| 16:49.47 | blitzrage | ~book |
| 16:49.52 | jbot | i heard book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 16:49.55 | blitzrage | has some good intro chapters to dialplan logic |
| 16:49.56 | EriSanHome | does that number include the trunk dial prefix ? |
| 16:50.22 | blitzrage | EriSanHome: prefixes don't exist in asterisk. Just add a 9 in front of those matches if you need a prefix. |
| 16:50.32 | Mattwj2005 | it is a good book...I just went through the first few chapters last night :) |
| 16:50.36 | blitzrage | (or whatever number you need for prefix). You'll need to strip the prefix number off though. |
| 16:50.42 | blitzrage | Mattwj2005: thanks :) |
| 16:50.47 | EriSanHome | k, thx and a happy new year to everyone ;-) |
| 16:50.48 | Qwell | Mattwj2005: you should buy the authors a beer |
| 16:51.06 | blitzrage | I'm supposed to be working on the 2nd edition today... but I'm slightly lazy |
| 16:51.08 | Mattwj2005 | well I bought his book..... |
| 16:51.16 | Qwell | Mattwj2005: beer > book money :P |
| 16:51.19 | blitzrage | sweet... that's another $0.30... |
| 16:51.22 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 16:51.23 | Qwell | heh |
| 16:51.32 | Qwell | blitzrage: is that all they give you? |
| 16:51.34 | Mattwj2005 | what type do you like? |
| 16:51.36 | blitzrage | Qwell: its something like that |
| 16:51.38 | Mattwj2005 | :-P |
| 16:51.39 | Qwell | lame |
| 16:51.41 | blitzrage | indeed |
| 16:52.05 | Qwell | I wonder if cafepress does publishing, heh |
| 16:52.14 | blitzrage | Mattwj2005: Amsterdam brewery is right across the road -- so I drink that, but any red beer is usually good with me. |
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| 16:52.41 | Qwell | hmm |
| 16:52.46 | Qwell | You'ren't |
| 16:52.49 | Mattwj2005 | sounds good....I drink wimp American beer Miller Lite and Budweiser |
| 16:52.55 | blitzrage | ewwww |
| 16:52.58 | blitzrage | <-- Canadian :) |
| 16:53.01 | blitzrage | I drink real beer |
| 16:53.42 | Mattwj2005 | nice we are just about neighbors....I live in Minneasota ;) |
| 16:54.02 | blitzrage | nice! |
| 16:54.03 | blitzrage | I'm in Toronto |
| 16:54.34 | Mattwj2005 | hmm lets see how far that is |
| 16:54.41 | Mattwj2005 | I am in Minneapolis |
| 16:54.54 | Qwell | how horribly dangerous would it be to shoot off fireworks up your fireplace? |
| 16:55.03 | blitzrage | 927mi |
| 16:55.13 | blitzrage | Qwell: probably not that dangerous.......... |
| 16:55.18 | Qwell | I like those odds! |
| 16:55.23 | blitzrage | lol |
| 16:55.32 | blitzrage | unless it explodes inside the chimney |
| 16:55.33 | Qwell | stupid city ordinances |
| 16:55.35 | blitzrage | lol |
| 16:55.37 | Qwell | I'm gonna start my own city |
| 16:55.43 | blitzrage | Qwelltoria! |
| 16:55.48 | Qwell | Qwellsakistan |
| 16:55.52 | Mattwj2005 | lol well maybe not exactly neighbors :-P |
| 16:55.57 | blitzrage | probably not a great name in the US of A :) |
| 16:56.04 | Qwell | blitzrage: oh, it'd be a country |
| 16:56.09 | blitzrage | http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=from:+minneapolis+to:+toronto,+on,+canada&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=20.993192,82.265625&ie=UTF8&z=6&om=1 |
| 16:58.10 | Mattwj2005 | still a lot closer then Mexico :) |
| 17:00.01 | blitzrage | true ;) |
| 17:03.06 | Mattwj2005 | just to let you know something about America.....most people here are jealous of Canadian health care :) |
| 17:04.18 | blitzrage | so I've heard |
| 17:04.28 | Mattwj2005 | our health system often times bankrupts middle class Americans when there is serious illness and they can't continue to work |
| 17:04.42 | blitzrage | yah... that really sucks :( |
| 17:05.02 | blitzrage | wish I got free dental |
| 17:05.27 | Mattwj2005 | yup....our government is off fighting off other battles while its own citizens are not being taken care of |
| 17:05.32 | Mattwj2005 | no free dental? |
| 17:05.38 | blitzrage | sounds like most countries |
| 17:06.03 | BSDTech | ok the house is clean |
| 17:06.06 | blitzrage | probably parts of it are, and you can probably write off some expenses on your taxes, but just hospital stuff is covered |
| 17:06.17 | BSDTech | everything starts rolling in at 2 |
| 17:07.02 | Mattwj2005 | oh okay cool cool |
| 17:07.04 | blitzrage | it's not a perfect system, but at least the lowest common denominator is pretty high (i.e. even super poor people have decent health coverage) |
| 17:07.09 | Juggie | heh |
| 17:07.24 | Juggie | i get free health care, 80% dental, 80% any medication etc. |
| 17:07.26 | Juggie | <3 canada |
| 17:07.32 | Mattwj2005 | sorry to wine about America a lot of our people are not happy with the government right now :) |
| 17:07.48 | Mattwj2005 | we have a lot of good things too |
| 17:07.58 | blitzrage | Mattwj2005: people in Canada aren't happy with your gov't either -- or our own mini-Republican gov't that's currently in power |
| 17:08.23 | Mattwj2005 | yeah our Republicans really suck right now too |
| 17:08.46 | blitzrage | luckily it's only a minority gov't, and we should be getting a new election in February |
| 17:08.47 | rob0 | I think a big part of the medical problem in USA is the M.D. god complex ... they think they're gods, *we* think they're gods, so they can demand anything they want, and get it. |
| 17:08.47 | blitzrage | we call them the Conservatives here, but same idea |
| 17:08.49 | Mattwj2005 | awesome....our next election is in 2008 |
| 17:08.55 | shido6 | Tim Hortons Breakfast sandwhich is pretty good. |
| 17:09.03 | blitzrage | ewwwww -- it looks gross |
| 17:09.07 | shido6 | their cookies will make you "go" |
| 17:09.18 | blitzrage | I prefer Subway cookies |
| 17:09.22 | shido6 | me, too |
| 17:09.25 | Mattwj2005 | me too :) |
| 17:09.27 | blitzrage | they are pretty much just cookie batter :) |
| 17:09.39 | Mattwj2005 | I was actually thinking about going to Subway for lunch |
| 17:09.44 | blitzrage | Juggie: you back in Ottawa, or in an airport still? |
| 17:09.59 | shido6 | seafood, bacon, black olives, a little southwest sauce, white chedder, oh yeah. |
| 17:10.07 | shido6 | maybe some lettuce & tomato |
| 17:10.14 | blitzrage | seafood? ewww |
| 17:10.18 | shido6 | yeah man |
| 17:10.21 | shido6 | seafood & bacon. |
| 17:10.33 | Juggie | blitzrage, i'm @ home |
| 17:10.42 | Juggie | awaiting the call to let me know my luggage made it |
| 17:10.44 | shido6 | or the pepercorn steak |
| 17:10.57 | Mattwj2005 | I like their new pepper corn steak....with the works minus cumcumbers and the shapolta sauce |
| 17:11.04 | blitzrage | chicken breast on herb and cheese with swiss cheese, tomato, green pepper, onion, banana peppers, southwest, sub sauce, Frank's redhot, and black pepper *drool* |
| 17:11.17 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 17:11.22 | shido6 | oh yeah and on parmesan |
| 17:11.25 | shido6 | bread |
| 17:11.27 | blitzrage | oh yah! |
| 17:11.34 | Juggie | blitzrage, at least i have extra clothes here. |
| 17:11.37 | blitzrage | parmesan cheese on that too |
| 17:11.56 | blitzrage | too bad the Subways in the states look at me like I"m on crack when I ask for sub sauce |
| 17:12.51 | blitzrage | ok... banking done for the day |
| 17:13.01 | blitzrage | must... motivate... myself.... to.... write..... book................... |
| 17:13.51 | shido6 | book? |
| 17:13.59 | Qwell | somebody get that man a redbull, STAT! |
| 17:14.23 | blitzrage | yah.... wouldn't be a bad idea |
| 17:14.23 | Mattwj2005 | well if it is about Asterisk include something about Festival :) |
| 17:14.32 | blitzrage | Mattwj2005: yah... 2nd ed. of tfot |
| 17:14.39 | blitzrage | Festival sucks |
| 17:14.43 | Qwell | festival text: |
| 17:14.46 | Qwell | well..what he said |
| 17:14.51 | blitzrage | lol |
| 17:14.55 | Qwell | I think there should be a whole chapter on how much festival sucks |
| 17:14.57 | Mattwj2005 | oh okay hmmm I'll have to look through my copy....I just started reading it ;) |
| 17:15.09 | blitzrage | there is something very small about Festival :) |
| 17:15.18 | blitzrage | I think it generally says it sucks, but in a nice way :) |
| 17:15.34 | Juggie | Festival is a good way to prove TTS works without buying anything. |
| 17:15.38 | Juggie | how about that. |
| 17:15.49 | blitzrage | true |
| 17:16.00 | blitzrage | ugh...... Chapter 4 is going to be a lot of work.... |
| 17:16.07 | blitzrage | which is probably what I should work on... but I really don't want to :) |
| 17:16.17 | blitzrage | I'm still in lazy Christmas mode |
| 17:16.22 | Mattwj2005 | you could write a chapter on why Skype sucks :-P |
| 17:16.32 | blitzrage | everyone already knows that |
| 17:16.55 | Qwell | what's chapter 4? |
| 17:17.35 | blitzrage | Initial configuration of Asterisk (setting up clients, phones, etc....) |
| 17:17.56 | blitzrage | Need to add trunking between Asterisk boxes in SIP and IAX2, connecting to a provider, connecting to a phone, etc.... |
| 17:17.57 | Qwell | how...broad |
| 17:18.08 | Qwell | blitzrage: gonna have anything on the gui in the second rev? |
| 17:18.10 | blitzrage | basically its the initial stuff you do to make a phone call |
| 17:18.16 | blitzrage | Qwell: yah... probably should |
| 17:18.19 | *** join/#asterisk VoipDan (n=danlloyd@cntcnhbas01pool1-a207.cntcnh.tds.net) |
| 17:18.34 | Juggie | Bag 1 StatusITEM LOCATED. AIRLINE IS CONFIRMING |
| 17:18.36 | blitzrage | hoping Steve can get his changes merged back into the client, because his version is real slick |
| 17:18.38 | Juggie | that does not fill me w/ confidence. |
| 17:18.42 | Qwell | blitzrage: yeah |
| 17:18.56 | blitzrage | his colour scheme is much easier on the eyes too |
| 17:18.58 | Qwell | blitzrage: I want to add some slick ajax stuff to it, for like...originating calls |
| 17:19.06 | Qwell | ala FOP |
| 17:19.14 | blitzrage | yah, some monitoring stuff would be nice too |
| 17:19.23 | Qwell | monitoring? |
| 17:19.29 | Qwell | anything specifically? |
| 17:19.30 | blitzrage | like status of phones and such |
| 17:19.38 | blitzrage | registration status, things like that |
| 17:19.40 | Qwell | ahh, yeah |
| 17:19.49 | Qwell | I figure that could be in the same section, if done right |
| 17:19.55 | blitzrage | yep, exactly |
| 17:19.57 | Qwell | actually, you know what |
| 17:20.03 | Qwell | there already is some basic monitoring |
| 17:20.08 | Juggie | ajax could do flash operator pannel, except without all the flash lameness. |
| 17:20.14 | blitzrage | probably is -- I haven't looked at it at all actually :) |
| 17:20.15 | Qwell | Juggie: exactly my thoughts |
| 17:20.23 | blitzrage | yah, flash is pretty lame |
| 17:20.24 | Qwell | blitzrage: it tells phone statuses.. |
| 17:20.28 | blitzrage | neato |
| 17:21.30 | Mattwj2005 | would a brief overview of codecs be appropriate? |
| 17:21.40 | blitzrage | we already have a whole chapter on that |
| 17:21.56 | shido6 | who are we? |
| 17:22.22 | Mattwj2005 | I am just excited to be talking to the author of this book....I want to help :) |
| 17:22.23 | blitzrage | Jim van Meggelen, Jared Smith, Leif Madsen |
| 17:22.53 | blitzrage | Mattwj2005: See Chapter 7 |
| 17:23.16 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (n=tzafrir@bzq-88-153-63-20.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 17:23.58 | blitzrage | it's way too cold in here to type... I keep making mistakes |
| 17:24.14 | blitzrage | and the dogs trying to knaw on my shins isn't helping |
| 17:24.35 | blitzrage | errr... gnaw I guess is the correct spelling |
| 17:24.46 | Mattwj2005 | yeah I see Chapter 8 covers a lot of GSM, U-law, alaw, etc |
| 17:24.47 | Mattwj2005 | hmm |
| 17:25.08 | blitzrage | yah... and Ch.7 is how analog audio gets converted to digital |
| 17:25.22 | *** join/#asterisk xnon (n=xnon@200.8.84.234) |
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| 17:26.00 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@64.235.216.2) |
| 17:26.24 | blitzrage | [TK]D-Fender: I don't want to meet your mom! I just want ..... something... what was it again? |
| 17:26.47 | Qwell | ~!!! |
| 17:26.54 | jbot | \"Multiple exclamation marks,\" he went on, shaking his head, \"are a sure sign of a diseased mind.\" - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 17:26.59 | Qwell | pfft |
| 17:27.09 | Qwell | jbot: no, !!! is BANG BANG BANG! |
| 17:27.10 | jbot | Qwell: okay |
| 17:27.21 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 17:27.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell : Its worth typing out in full :) |
| 17:27.51 | Qwell | why? jbot can do it for me |
| 17:28.20 | blitzrage | jbot: no, !!! is BANG BANG BANG at http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/Group_X_video.html |
| 17:28.21 | jbot | blitzrage: okay |
| 17:28.36 | Qwell | oh god |
| 17:28.43 | Corydon76-home | Yes, my son? |
| 17:28.45 | blitzrage | mwahahahahaha |
| 17:29.38 | [TK]D-Fender | blitzrage : Doesn't work.... |
| 17:30.13 | blitzrage | sure it does |
| 17:30.26 | blitzrage | I just watched it |
| 17:30.43 | [TK]D-Fender | not playing for me... |
| 17:30.56 | Corydon76-home | Since the Asian quake, I've been seeing quite a few more issues with mysterious DNS failures |
| 17:31.07 | [TK]D-Fender | No matter, I leached it a year ago and can host it myself :) |
| 17:31.37 | coppice | since the asian quake we have been lucky to see anything on the internet :-) |
| 17:32.18 | Corydon76-home | coppice: I'm thinking quite a few places have outsourced their DNS to lines that are now seeing a quite a bit more traffic |
| 17:32.36 | *** join/#asterisk Winkie (i=sd@87-194-8-125.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:32.40 | Corydon76-home | Myspace was one of those that failed |
| 17:32.53 | blitzrage | myspace is useless |
| 17:32.54 | coppice | I think some of the cables may have already been repaired, since capacity seems to be returning |
| 17:33.24 | Corydon76-home | coppice: I've heard most of the traffic has been re-routed through Europe |
| 17:33.26 | blitzrage | ok, I'm going to read I think.... |
| 17:33.49 | Corydon76-home | coppice: but 6 weeks was the projected time for repair, assuming they can find the break quickly |
| 17:33.57 | coppice | there is too much to be rerouted. most of the fibre in asia was heavily loaded |
| 17:34.27 | coppice | there are 5 repair ships in the area now, and there were six broken cables |
| 17:35.21 | coppice | oddly, the only thing I use that seems completely unaffected is freenode |
| 17:35.44 | Mattwj2005 | yeah the Asia quake is create....so much for a redundant Internet |
| 17:35.49 | Corydon76-home | The other thing they projected would be in the net outcome was that more redundant cables would be laid |
| 17:36.12 | *** join/#asterisk gr0mit_home (n=Tim@extrt.txrx.org.uk) |
| 17:36.14 | Mattwj2005 | *Asia Earth Quake is crazy |
| 17:36.16 | Corydon76-home | Mattwj2005: routing through Europe is an example of the redundancy |
| 17:36.42 | Corydon76-home | Yes, it took almost a day to reroute around the damaged cables, but that's fairly quick, really |
| 17:36.53 | coppice | there were already plans for more cables. there was underutilisation for a long time, and people were reluctant to invest. they let it fill up completely |
| 17:36.55 | Mattwj2005 | true....I was thinking more like no downtime |
| 17:37.14 | Corydon76-home | Mattwj2005: no downtime is a completely unreasonable expectation |
| 17:37.26 | coppice | route around? I currently am downloading a file from sweden at 400 bytes per second |
| 17:37.37 | Corydon76-home | Ouch |
| 17:37.57 | coppice | and that's after considerable recovery |
| 17:37.58 | Mattwj2005 | yeah your right.....I just don't like the fact that it can be wiped out so easily |
| 17:38.12 | Qwell | ariaveta: think so |
| 17:38.14 | Corydon76-home | Mattwj2005: the Internet as a whole will never go down |
| 17:38.15 | Mattwj2005 | we have had to deal with this issue at work |
| 17:38.27 | Corydon76-home | but pieces do, from time to time |
| 17:38.56 | ariaveta | Qwell: I'm trying to download celliax |
| 17:39.19 | Mattwj2005 | you have to realize.....I am the type of guy that wants everyone to have fiber to house |
| 17:39.20 | Mattwj2005 | :) |
| 17:39.45 | Corydon76-home | Mattwj2005: I'm a little more practical. I just want myself to have fiber to the home |
| 17:41.17 | Mattwj2005 | I know they are working on fiber to the house....I am pretty happy with my current connection......I just want to see more video over the Internet |
| 17:42.26 | coppice | they've been working on fibre to the home for 25 years :-) |
| 17:42.31 | Mattwj2005 | you know be able to download movies like Netflix will very little wait.....we are getting close with that I know....a lot of people are still stuck on dialup |
| 17:42.41 | Mattwj2005 | lol dang |
| 17:43.07 | Corydon76-home | coppice: no, they've been saying they're going to do it for the past 25 years. |
| 17:43.19 | Corydon76-home | Ma Bell will say anything to get what she wants |
| 17:43.20 | Mattwj2005 | my dad lives in the middle of no where and just got DSL in his area :) |
| 17:43.32 | coppice | there were pilots in the UK in 1980 |
| 17:43.47 | Mattwj2005 | wow that is crazy |
| 17:43.47 | Strom_M | Corydon76-home, my friend has had fiber to his prem since mid-2004 |
| 17:43.49 | Strom_M | er, 2005 |
| 17:43.54 | Mattwj2005 | 1980? that is older than me |
| 17:44.04 | Mattwj2005 | I was born 1981 :) |
| 17:44.17 | Corydon76-home | whippersnapper! |
| 17:44.29 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 17:45.05 | coppice | we did experimental passive coupled fibre to the home in about 1986 |
| 17:45.45 | Corydon76-home | What's laughable is that the FCC defines broadband as 200K download speed |
| 17:46.07 | Mattwj2005 | upload or download ;) |
| 17:46.10 | Mattwj2005 | haha jk |
| 17:46.33 | Mattwj2005 | if it is upload....I just barely have broadband haha |
| 17:46.39 | Mattwj2005 | :-P |
| 17:46.40 | Corydon76-home | Compare that to the precursor to Verizon promising synchronous 45Mbps to the home by 1996. |
| 17:47.09 | Strom_M | Corydon76-home, GTE, Bell Atlantic, or NYNEX? |
| 17:47.16 | Strom_M | or...CONTEL?? |
| 17:47.17 | Corydon76-home | They made that promise in return for the FCC allowing them to merge |
| 17:47.18 | coppice | a lot of people in japan seem to be able to get 100M fibre to their homes |
| 17:47.22 | Corydon76-home | Strom_M: NYNEX |
| 17:49.38 | Mattwj2005 | the traditional telcos can't be real happy about consumer voip |
| 17:50.01 | Corydon76-home | That's why network neutrality is so important |
| 17:50.18 | Nivex | Corydon76-home: the tariffs back in Ohio say that telcos only have to provide a modem line speed of 9600 |
| 17:50.22 | Corydon76-home | Without network neutrality, the telcos will be able to choke off every voip connection |
| 17:51.15 | Corydon76-home | and they'll do it, too, because 95% of the population doesn't know any better |
| 17:51.52 | Mattwj2005 | definitely...at least voip providers will be fighting for it....such as Vonage |
| 17:52.00 | trelane | net neturality = critical, or we'll spend 50 more years being fucked by AT&T |
| 17:52.44 | trelane | because if you havn't noticed... big bell is back. |
| 17:53.02 | trelane | AT&T will merge with bellsouth and it will be bigger than it was before, verizon or not |
| 17:53.07 | Corydon76-home | And while the breakup of AT&T had the right idea, the execution was flawed. They should have said "intra-CO calling is local, intra-CO calling is long distance" |
| 17:53.08 | coppice | you are screwed either way. if the net is neutral, you can't prioritise streaming media. if it is neutral you have no control at all |
| 17:53.37 | Mattwj2005 | AT&T even sucks for business circuits....their support system sucks.....and sorry if I offend anyone but so do their employees |
| 17:53.49 | coppice | s/if it is neutral/if it is not neutral |
| 17:53.52 | trelane | Mattwj2005, here here! |
| 17:53.55 | Corydon76-home | coppice: it's not a matter of whether the end user can prioritize, but whether the telco can force prioritization over the will of the consumer |
| 17:54.00 | trelane | Mattwj2005, I can tell you horror stories that will curl your toes |
| 17:54.13 | trelane | I had AT&T "lose" the phone number for one of my customers that was doing 4000 minutes/day |
| 17:54.27 | Mattwj2005 | believe me....I have experience the worthless company first hand at work ;) |
| 17:54.28 | coppice | trelane: everyone in telecoms can :-) |
| 17:54.38 | trelane | coppice, BUT DAMMIT I DONT WANT TO HEAR YOURS! :) |
| 17:55.43 | Corydon76-home | Mattwj2005: I don't think we've deployed a single PRI circuit using BellSloth |
| 17:55.44 | Mattwj2005 | well...their new phone system requires the use of voice reconation which doesn't work more than 10% of the time....they push you from department to department and the employees are idiots |
| 17:55.51 | trelane | ooh and they put a new box in in my neighborhood, and since I had dry pair DSL, they didn't think to reconnect my line because there was no voltage on it. |
| 17:56.03 | trelane | Mattwj2005, want to know how to defeat it? |
| 17:56.12 | tomcats | Does asterisk work on ibm's POWER5+ architecture? |
| 17:56.13 | trelane | Mattwj2005, it's designed to immediately escalate profanity |
| 17:56.13 | Mattwj2005 | sure :D |
| 17:56.23 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 17:56.25 | coppice | without prioritisation voip and other streaming stuff will always suck. the desirable end game for either the control freaks in the telcos or the consumer is not obvious |
| 17:56.26 | trelane | Mattwj2005, tell it EXACTLY what you think of AT&T and you get bounced to retentions |
| 17:56.31 | Mattwj2005 | are you serious? |
| 17:56.36 | trelane | Mattwj2005, 100% |
| 17:56.50 | Mattwj2005 | hehe I should try that sometime |
| 17:56.53 | trelane | now you'll have to do a bit of transferring to get where you need to go but you get a human. |
| 17:57.05 | trelane | IE retentions can't fix the T1 AT&T fucked up |
| 17:57.14 | trelane | but they can get you to where you need to go, just be cruel and upset. |
| 17:57.27 | Mattwj2005 | lol your my hero! :) |
| 17:58.10 | trelane | not a problem, figured that out once by accident |
| 17:59.27 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, people who scream and curse are usually more upset |
| 17:59.45 | Corydon76-home | "MY FUCKING PRI IS DOWN!!!" |
| 18:00.02 | trelane | Corydon76-home, and it works! |
| 18:00.25 | tomcats | I am trying to stuck as many e1 spans on a server as possible ~240, and have it act as a g729 gateway |
| 18:00.47 | Qwell | 240 e1s? |
| 18:01.06 | trelane | tomcats, try clustering |
| 18:01.14 | RoyK | tomcats: hehe. you mean 4 E1s? |
| 18:01.21 | Corydon76-home | 8 E1s |
| 18:01.24 | Qwell | do you have ANY idea how many channels 240 E1s is? :) |
| 18:01.26 | Corydon76-home | 4 is 120 |
| 18:01.30 | trelane | Qwell, lots! |
| 18:01.36 | tomcats | trelane: yes clustering.. cluster many 240 e1 boxes.. ;) |
| 18:01.40 | Qwell | That's like 10 DS3s |
| 18:01.50 | RoyK | anyway, you'll better have hwec |
| 18:01.52 | tomcats | we use e1's here |
| 18:01.55 | RoyK | swec can't do that |
| 18:02.07 | Qwell | I'd be willing to bet that most cities don't have 10 DS3s ;) |
| 18:02.17 | RoyK | tomcats: also, better use 4 E1s per server and use more servers |
| 18:02.31 | RoyK | in case a box goes down, you only lose four E1s |
| 18:02.36 | Corydon76-home | Assuming you meant 240 channels, you're likely to need two machines alone just to do the codec compression |
| 18:02.51 | coppice | it would be a very small town that needs on 10 DS3s |
| 18:02.56 | RoyK | trelane: heh |
| 18:02.59 | Qwell | coppice: really? |
| 18:03.16 | Corydon76-home | 6720 DS0's |
| 18:03.20 | trelane | coppice, actually that's a LOT of channels |
| 18:03.39 | RoyK | Corydon-w: ds0 == Bchan? |
| 18:03.42 | trelane | Corydon76-home, you used a calculator cheater! |
| 18:03.47 | Corydon76-home | coppice: I think they mean outbound trunks |
| 18:03.56 | Qwell | trelane: 672 * 10 == stupidly easy math |
| 18:04.07 | Corydon76-home | Yeah, I was about to say |
| 18:04.07 | trelane | Qwell, dammit that wasn't the point! :) |
| 18:04.12 | shido6 | ZzZZzZ |
| 18:04.16 | trelane | shido6, greetings :) |
| 18:04.18 | tomcats | yes 240 ports, but the proyect itslef require 8 times this load.. |
| 18:04.20 | trelane | and sleep well apparently |
| 18:04.24 | shido6 | they are just channels, stop freaking out |
| 18:04.28 | Qwell | tomcats: What ports? |
| 18:04.31 | shido6 | hey |
| 18:04.34 | Corydon76-home | trelane: 672 sticks in my mind, like $300 = 768 |
| 18:04.41 | RoyK | tomcats: 240 E1s? |
| 18:04.41 | tomcats | ports=channels... |
| 18:04.42 | Qwell | Corydon76-home: eh? |
| 18:04.46 | RoyK | oh |
| 18:04.46 | RoyK | ok |
| 18:04.50 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: hex to decimal |
| 18:04.58 | Qwell | oh |
| 18:04.58 | RoyK | tomcats: better get to or three quad cards with hwec, then |
| 18:05.00 | coppice | 6720 circuits will serve 30,000 to 60,000 subs. pretty small town, I'd say |
| 18:05.05 | RoyK | s/to/two/ |
| 18:05.11 | Corydon76-home | Qwell: 300 was a popular address on the Apple II to assemble short routines |
| 18:05.13 | RoyK | whatever |
| 18:05.22 | tomcats | actually, 8 e1's per box and we need to setup 64 e1's |
| 18:05.39 | Qwell | coppice: 30,000 houses is like 75,000 people |
| 18:05.39 | RoyK | tomcats: hwec or not? |
| 18:05.49 | Qwell | 75,000 population is a fair sized city |
| 18:05.52 | *** join/#asterisk [hC] (n=hardcore@190.10.13.145) |
| 18:05.56 | ariaveta | Uhm, I did some search on the celliax site and I didn't find much bluetooth-related |
| 18:06.03 | coppice | 30,000 subs is like 25000 people |
| 18:06.11 | Qwell | subs..subscribers? |
| 18:06.20 | tomcats | RoyK: hwec? |
| 18:06.28 | RoyK | tomcats: hardware echocancel |
| 18:07.16 | tomcats | hwec is supoosed to take load off the server for echocancelling but does it help 729 compression? |
| 18:07.17 | kumbalae | Is STUN supported in Cisco 7960 ? |
| 18:07.24 | RoyK | tomcats: bingo |
| 18:07.31 | kumbalae | i have the latest firmware, 8.2 |
| 18:07.44 | RoyK | tomcats: a single cpu will probably spend most of it's cpu doing software echocancel for 4 E1s |
| 18:07.54 | Qwell | tomcats: Digium is going to start selling a card that can do like 4 E1s worth of g729 transcoding |
| 18:08.20 | RoyK | tomcats: better wait for that one, then :) |
| 18:08.27 | RoyK | Qwell: with hwec? |
| 18:08.31 | tomcats | excellent! I think that's what we need |
| 18:08.35 | Qwell | RoyK: no, just transcoding |
| 18:08.41 | Qwell | ec would be done elsewhere |
| 18:08.54 | shido6 | test |
| 18:09.00 | RoyK | Qwell: preferably not in software. too expensive, and not too good |
| 18:09.16 | kumbalae | Is STUN supported in Cisco 7960 with the fimware version 8.2, please help |
| 18:09.18 | Qwell | RoyK: it doesn't do anything with terminating calls or anything...it's JUST a transcoder |
| 18:09.19 | RoyK | s/expe/cpu expen/ |
| 18:09.27 | Qwell | so EC is useless there |
| 18:09.54 | RoyK | Qwell: you'll need EC anyway, so why shouldn't it be in there? |
| 18:10.12 | Qwell | RoyK: because you can't EC it after it's already that far into the pbx |
| 18:12.36 | tomcats | Qwell: with this new cards not a lot of cpu would be required to transcode 8 e1 spans, right? |
| 18:12.54 | Qwell | tomcats: right, 2 of them should be able to handle 8 E1s |
| 18:13.05 | Qwell | I think 4 E1s is the target anyhow |
| 18:16.16 | tomcats | Qwell: when is this card coming out? |
| 18:16.25 | Qwell | dunno, sales would know |
| 18:18.22 | luke-jr | anyone know a good Free voice recognition engine? |
| 18:18.43 | luke-jr | preferably without required tuning |
| 18:19.07 | luke-jr | (in particular, I'm planning to use it as a text interface for young children who cannot yet read or write) |
| 18:20.53 | blitzrage | luke-jr: sphinx is the only one I know that is free |
| 18:21.14 | luke-jr | blitzrage: darn, and its Java (and seems to suck, as of 3) |
| 18:22.24 | blitzrage | luke-jr: there are 3 versions, only version 3 is java |
| 18:22.35 | luke-jr | blitzrage: Sphinx4 is vapourware? |
| 18:23.39 | *** join/#asterisk eltech (i=G00Ds@ool-457c93b6.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:30.57 | Mattwj2005 | Qwell if you have a free second I need some help with the Asterisk-gui....I see your in #asterisk-gui |
| 18:30.59 | Mattwj2005 | :) |
| 18:31.19 | Mattwj2005 | I might have to buy you a beer or something ;) |
| 18:31.38 | BSDTech | Happy NewYears all |
| 18:31.42 | BSDTech | have a good one.... |
| 18:31.45 | *** part/#asterisk BSDTech (n=RNeese@ppp-69-238-216-111.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 18:33.39 | ariaveta | I have to go |
| 18:33.43 | ariaveta | happy 2007 |
| 18:35.01 | luke-jr | blitzrage: any idea if there's a way to de-suck sphinx? |
| 18:35.26 | blitzrage | nope, I don't use it |
| 18:36.50 | file | luke-jr: do you just want something that recognizes whatever a person said without giving the engine a grammar to match upon? |
| 18:36.58 | luke-jr | file: yeah |
| 18:37.21 | file | you are not going to find anything |
| 18:37.25 | luke-jr | :/ |
| 18:37.41 | luke-jr | how about a generic English grammer? :p |
| 18:38.24 | Mattwj2005 | Qwell thanks anyways....I was having a blond moment :) I was blond as a kid but I still think like one sometimes ;) |
| 18:39.09 | Corydon76-home | Mattwj2005: awww, that's cute |
| 18:39.34 | Mattwj2005 | lol thanks I try haha |
| 18:40.16 | Corydon76-home | luke-jr: it doesn't work that way |
| 18:40.18 | Mattwj2005 | I was having problems because I can't add :-P |
| 18:40.36 | Corydon76-home | Just get yourself an accountant for a boyfriend |
| 18:41.03 | Mattwj2005 | no way man....I am only into the gals :) |
| 18:41.19 | rob0 | There are female accountants too. |
| 18:41.32 | Mattwj2005 | you said for a boyfriend though ;) |
| 18:41.46 | luke-jr | Corydon76-home said* |
| 18:41.49 | Corydon76-home | What's wrong with a boyfriend? |
| 18:42.15 | Mattwj2005 | because I don't date guys |
| 18:42.17 | Mattwj2005 | :) |
| 18:42.33 | Corydon76-home | Awwww, how cute |
| 18:42.52 | Strom_M | yeah yeah, that's what they all say ;) |
| 18:44.35 | Mattwj2005 | girls give me a headache somedays but their worth it |
| 18:44.36 | Mattwj2005 | :) |
| 18:44.46 | rob0 | Is it true that heterosexuality is detrimental for success with Asterisk? |
| 18:45.36 | Mattwj2005 | depends is the person single or with someone? |
| 18:45.42 | Corydon76-home | Might be |
| 18:45.56 | Mattwj2005 | single no....with someone yes |
| 18:47.25 | rob0 | haha ok |
| 18:48.31 | Mattwj2005 | girls are time consuming :) |
| 18:49.17 | Corydon76-home | Men are less-so |
| 18:49.36 | Mattwj2005 | indeed |
| 18:49.57 | blitzrage | being single makes more sense |
| 18:50.28 | blitzrage | if you're not single, just give up on Asterisk, you don't have time for both |
| 18:52.09 | Mattwj2005 | I would say that is especially true when you start a new relationship with someone..... |
| 18:52.13 | Mattwj2005 | so much work |
| 18:52.39 | Corydon76-home | Work? It doesn't take me more than 5, maybe 10 minutes... |
| 18:53.06 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 18:53.40 | Mattwj2005 | well I know with my last girlfriend....I was always planning something or buying her something....it kept me busy |
| 18:54.06 | Corydon76-home | Eh, a roof over her head should be enough |
| 18:54.51 | Corydon76-home | See, men aren't as ungrateful... |
| 18:55.58 | Mattwj2005 | oh yeah if I wanted to a gal could move in with me :) |
| 18:56.38 | Mattwj2005 | my rent agreement allows 2 people to live in this apartment |
| 19:00.26 | *** part/#asterisk key2 (n=key2@82.247.113.230) |
| 19:00.46 | Mattwj2005 | anyone know how to add incoming lines to the new gui? |
| 19:05.32 | shido6 | providers.conf? |
| 19:05.52 | Mattwj2005 | anyone way of doing it through the gui? |
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| 19:19.00 | Mattwj2005 | is Asterisk NOW weird or is Asterisk 1.4 this different? |
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| 19:24.56 | markit | [14:47] <Mattwj2005> the only reason I ask is because I wanted to share my thanks....the new Asterisk GUI is awesome and I appreciate your hard work :) |
| 19:25.18 | markit | ehm, seems you have had to stop at that phase, Mattwj2005 ;) |
| 19:25.23 | markit | (just joking) |
| 19:26.11 | PMantis | I'd like to monitor some dial, ring, link, unlink events on an Asterisk server, the UDP broadcast the events to the network... is the Asterisk Management Interface the best way to do this? |
| 19:28.51 | Mattwj2005 | lol |
| 19:29.04 | Mattwj2005 | I am still very impressed |
| 19:29.16 | Mattwj2005 | it doesn't help that I have been up for 23 hours now ;) |
| 19:30.24 | antlers | [14:47] <Mattwj2005> the only reason I ask is because I wanted to share my thanks....the new Asterisk GUI is awesome and I appreciate your hard work :) |
| 19:30.30 | antlers | asterisk itself has a nifty built-in gui? |
| 19:30.56 | Mattwj2005 | yeah.....the newest version has a gui....I am using AsteriskNOW |
| 19:31.05 | antlers | screenshots? |
| 19:31.07 | [TK]D-Fender | No, not "built-in", just avalable from the same people who release * |
| 19:31.13 | antlers | ah |
| 19:31.33 | Mattwj2005 | http://www.asterisknow.org/images/gui |
| 19:31.47 | Mattwj2005 | oops sorry about the wrong info |
| 19:31.51 | Mattwj2005 | :-[ |
| 19:32.16 | conver2 | If my extensions are defined in context 'B' and a call is in context 'A', -- is there a way for the caller to dial the extensions? |
| 19:32.19 | antlers | just got done reading the O'Riley Asterisk book, and starting on two others... I haven't been this inspired on a personal project in a LONG time |
| 19:33.24 | [TK]D-Fender | conver2 : add - "include => ContextB" |
| 19:35.52 | conver2 | i would need to do a 'include' in every other context. |
| 19:36.17 | [TK]D-Fender | conver2 : You'd have to have a really screwed up design to say that... |
| 19:36.32 | [TK]D-Fender | conver2 : Pastebin the whole thing for a quick look |
| 19:36.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 19:36.36 | jbot | somebody said pb was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 19:37.32 | antlers | jbot, what are you wearing? |
| 19:37.34 | jbot | antlers: what are you talking about? |
| 19:44.24 | luke-jr | file: maybe I can write a suitable grammer-- after all, these are 2-4 yr old kids; their vocabulary can't be that big :p |
| 19:44.48 | Mattwj2005 | I am not a kid I am just really really tired |
| 19:45.21 | luke-jr | Mattwj2005: yeah, but the voice recognition I need is for little kids who can't read/type |
| 19:45.32 | luke-jr | which also are likely to have a limited vocab |
| 19:45.38 | Mattwj2005 | oh okay |
| 19:45.49 | Mattwj2005 | I misunderstood again |
| 19:45.51 | Mattwj2005 | :) |
| 19:46.26 | luke-jr | :) |
| 19:46.59 | Mattwj2005 | I should get something to eat for lunch....relax a little and call it a night |
| 19:48.58 | Mattwj2005 | talk to guys later |
| 19:54.59 | antlers | what's the preferred Linux distribution you guys use on your hobby Asterisk boxes, and why? |
| 19:55.09 | Nugget | antlers: doesn't matter at all. |
| 19:55.22 | antlers | granted, just curious about preferences and why |
| 19:55.34 | Nugget | I use Slackware because it's the least Linuxy Linux I can find. |
| 19:55.58 | Nugget | if I didn't have a tdm400p I wouldn't be using Linux at all. |
| 19:56.25 | antlers | the reason I ask is, everyone I know that users asterisk in enterprise, and indeed the books I'm reading reference RHEL |
| 19:56.32 | PMantis | Ewww, outcast |
| 19:56.40 | rob0 | I use Slamd64, because I like Slackware and I have an AMD64. :) |
| 19:56.57 | antlers | unfortunately we're a large nortel shop at work :) |
| 19:57.14 | Nugget | RHEL is the standard for enterprise use, sure. I don't think that has anything to do with asterisk, though, and more about getting hardware support from dell or hp or ibm. |
| 19:57.40 | [TK]D-Fender | antlers : CentOS is very high on most lists as its a RHEL clone without the branding and possible costs |
| 19:57.45 | antlers | always been a fedora fan for some reason, perhaps being raised on RH |
| 19:57.54 | antlers | although I can recall days of downloading slackware diskette images for hours :) |
| 19:58.08 | Nugget | Yeah, CentOS is an alternative to RHEL if hardware support isn't a big concern with you |
| 19:58.16 | antlers | now downloading N series floppies, please wait 10yrs 3months 1week 2 days 4hrs |
| 19:58.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Nugget : It'll work on the same hardware... removing the name doesn't change compatability |
| 19:58.53 | [TK]D-Fender | :) |
| 19:59.24 | Nugget | I realize that. But if you call IBM because your raid controller is acting weird and you think it's their fault they'll tell you to go pound sand because only RedHat is supported. |
| 19:59.52 | Nugget | that's the "support" I was referrring to |
| 20:00.12 | antlers | that still sounds better than nortel |
| 20:00.33 | Nugget | same story if you're running oracle or gridmp or any number of "enterprise" appliations available on linux. |
| 20:00.40 | antlers | unless your option 81C is in flames, they're not going to provide urgent support |
| 20:00.47 | Nugget | you get stuck paying the redhat tax if you want support. |
| 20:00.51 | antlers | actually they've been ok, but the hundreds of BCMs out in the field, my god |
| 20:01.09 | antlers | the absolute BEST was when we learned every BCM we had deployed had some nortel contivity security device hidden inside |
| 20:01.26 | antlers | that would act as a dhcp server, with some internal pseudo interface |
| 20:01.44 | antlers | try and find the rouge dhcp server, sure as hell was coming off the network port of the BCM, but the MAC wasn't the BCM's physical NIC |
| 20:02.27 | [TK]D-Fender | BCM is a flaming pile of shit. |
| 20:02.33 | antlers | man that is the truth |
| 20:02.56 | antlers | I was hired to oversea network transport for my company, and somehow I ended up inheriting the telephony group |
| 20:03.00 | antlers | after the nortel deals were signed |
| 20:03.07 | *** part/#asterisk mtaht4 (n=m@c-71-198-23-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:03.33 | antlers | I actually watched them do a few CS1000S installs... I can't express how retarded that was |
| 20:04.08 | antlers | my interest in asterisk started when we had to use SOMETHING to be a bridge between Polycom conferencing and the Nortel setup |
| 20:06.51 | conver2 | is there a cmd like directory(), but instead of taking names, would take extension numbers.? |
| 20:07.52 | Nugget | and did what with them? |
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| 20:16.46 | [TK]D-Fender | conver2 : if yuo know the extension #'s, why do you need Directory? :) |
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| 20:21.43 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: That's a good question |
| 20:21.58 | SheriF_SpacE | happy new year guys |
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| 20:47.31 | umop3plsdn | When I try to modprobe wct4xxp, I get "wct4xxp: Unknown symbol release_firmware" and "wct4xxp: Unknown symbol request_firmware" |
| 20:47.45 | umop3plsdn | I have a TE405P 1ST Gen |
| 20:51.59 | tzafrir_laptop | umop3plsdn, do you use insmod or modprobe? |
| 20:52.06 | umop3plsdn | modprobe |
| 20:56.24 | in-pt | hi all |
| 20:56.58 | in-pt | i had upgrade with asterisk-1.4.0 but getting some errors with Skinny channels |
| 20:57.05 | in-pt | can anyone give hand |
| 20:57.15 | in-pt | http://pastebin.ca/298324 |
| 20:58.17 | Qwell | in-pt: Dial(line@device) |
| 20:58.43 | Qwell | erm |
| 20:58.46 | Qwell | in-pt: Dial(Skinny/line@device) |
| 21:00.49 | in-pt | Qwell: what is device here ? |
| 21:01.00 | Qwell | Whatever you put in skinny.conf |
| 21:01.18 | in-pt | ohh ok i understand |
| 21:01.20 | in-pt | thnx |
| 21:01.29 | umop3plsdn | Actually the problem stems from when I was trying to compile zaptel |
| 21:01.30 | umop3plsdn | /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/fw2h /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/OCT6114-128D.ima /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/vpmoct128_fw.h |
| 21:01.30 | umop3plsdn | /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/fw2h /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/OCT6114-64D.ima /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/vpmoct064_fw.h |
| 21:01.30 | umop3plsdn | /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/vpm450m.h:33: warning: 'oct064_firmware' defined but not used |
| 21:01.30 | umop3plsdn | /usr/src/asterisk/zaptel-1.2.12/wct4xxp/vpm450m.h:34: warning: 'oct128_firmware' defined but not used |
| 21:06.36 | file | that's not a problem, it's simply a warning |
| 21:07.56 | umop3plsdn | true |
| 21:08.06 | Nivex | mornin' file |
| 21:09.13 | umop3plsdn | Is there something i'm missing in my kernel perhaps? Dang module won't load! |
| 21:09.41 | file | it's trying to use hotplug loading but the module isn't loaded, or support isn't in the kernel |
| 21:09.43 | file | probably module |
| 21:10.24 | file | try modprobe firmware_class |
| 21:10.29 | file | and then load wct4xxp |
| 21:13.13 | umop3plsdn | modprobe firmware_class |
| 21:13.14 | umop3plsdn | FATAL: Module firmware_class not found. |
| 21:14.05 | file | interesting |
| 21:14.20 | file | zaptel will only build using hotplug if it detects from the kernel that it has support, BUT, you can override it |
| 21:15.01 | file | if you open up the zaptel Makefile and search for the line that says "Set this to override hotplug firmware loading and revert to classic header based" and uncomment the line under it, recompile, reinstall zaptel, it should load fine |
| 21:15.37 | in-pt | Qwell: its working fine now thnx again |
| 21:15.44 | in-pt | i have one more question from you |
| 21:15.57 | in-pt | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.10 | in-pt | i am getting the above line in asterisk cli |
| 21:16.27 | in-pt | i dont know what is this bad event |
| 21:16.45 | in-pt | the ip belongs to asterisk |
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| 21:18.55 | umop3plsdn | file: many thanks~!!!! |
| 21:22.48 | luke-jr | any way to get Asterisk to record and playback simontaneously? |
| 21:33.44 | Strom_C | use monitor() with playback()? |
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| 21:35.13 | luke-jr | Strom_C: monitor doesn't detect a pause |
| 21:35.36 | Strom_C | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:36.52 | mistermocha | is it possible to use a plain old V90 modem as an FXO port? |
| 21:37.05 | Strom_C | mistermocha: no |
| 21:37.22 | mistermocha | rats... |
| 21:40.02 | luke-jr | Strom_C: 2-way conversation |
| 21:40.36 | luke-jr | actually, it'd be ideal if the playback paused when the user started to talk ;) |
| 21:40.38 | Strom_C | luke-jr: you'll have to provide a little more detail if you want me to have a clue what you're talking about |
| 21:41.31 | luke-jr | Strom_C: I'm using voice for commands, where the user can begin a command at any time |
| 21:41.47 | luke-jr | and TTS for output, which ideally would pause when the user began speaking |
| 21:41.48 | Strom_C | try speechbackground() |
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| 21:42.14 | luke-jr | speechbackground... that's a new one o.o |
| 21:42.23 | Strom_C | i have it in 1.4... |
| 21:42.56 | luke-jr | does it work w/ free software? |
| 21:43.55 | Strom_C | I don't know. Do some research :) |
| 21:44.48 | file | you have to have an engine loaded in order to use the speech stuff |
| 21:45.15 | Strom_C | file: can it be any engine, or must it be lumenvox? |
| 21:45.29 | file | well, nobody afaik has written a module to use any other engine |
| 21:45.45 | Strom_C | ah ok |
| 21:46.14 | luke-jr | What does * do with the read speech? |
| 21:46.30 | file | returns it to the dialplan... |
| 21:46.57 | luke-jr | as a variable? or? O.o |
| 21:47.08 | file | there's a dialplan function that allows you to iterate over results |
| 21:47.15 | luke-jr | hm |
| 21:47.23 | file | along with the conidence score |
| 21:47.26 | file | erm, confidence |
| 21:47.44 | luke-jr | any recommendation for reading about this and/or writing a module for an engine? |
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| 21:48.27 | file | the source code is the best bet for writing an engine |
| 21:51.36 | luke-jr | is the LumenVox module source available? |
| 21:51.42 | file | no |
| 21:51.48 | luke-jr | or perhaps a stub? |
| 21:52.18 | luke-jr | how about docs on Speech* apps? |
| 21:52.44 | file | there's documentation in the doc directory, there's documentation in the source code, there's documentation via show application |
| 21:53.01 | Qwell | there's also documentation in file's brain. |
| 21:53.04 | luke-jr | heh |
| 21:53.05 | Qwell | You may have to remove it though |
| 21:53.07 | file | eep |
| 21:53.12 | luke-jr | guess I need to install * 1.4 then :p |
| 21:55.33 | Strom_C | removal of the documentation from file's brain is made easier with the addition of muffins |
| 21:56.15 | Druken | i don't think removal is possible, i think it's hardwired in.... |
| 21:56.54 | Strom_C | qwell: did I show you the car that file would be driving if he lived in los angeles? |
| 22:01.47 | Qwell | nope |
| 22:03.10 | Qwell | Strom_C: link? |
| 22:03.55 | Strom_C | http://www.stromcarlson.com/misc/DSC03160.JPG |
| 22:04.06 | Qwell | ha |
| 22:04.13 | Qwell | totally |
| 22:04.48 | file | go go muffins car |
| 22:05.38 | Qwell | Strom_C: gotta love that red sign in the background.. only in LA |
| 22:05.59 | Strom_C | which, "Se Habla Espanol"? |
| 22:06.08 | Qwell | yeah |
| 22:06.50 | Strom_C | hey, I know enough Spanish to get by if necessary :) |
| 22:08.47 | Strom_C | also: you must watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK30qJLeKPM |
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| 22:36.14 | EyeCue | strom! |
| 22:36.42 | Strom_C | hi! |
| 22:36.46 | EyeCue | heh |
| 22:36.54 | EyeCue | you past new years? |
| 22:37.08 | Strom_C | it's only 2:40 PM in Los Angeles |
| 22:37.14 | EyeCue | luckee:) |
| 22:37.16 | EyeCue | plans? |
| 22:37.25 | Strom_C | yeah, friends are throwing a partyt |
| 22:37.32 | Strom_C | s/partyt/party/ |
| 22:37.34 | EyeCue | got my invite? :D |
| 22:37.44 | Strom_C | ? |
| 22:38.01 | EyeCue | would be leet if i could fly around the world, and do multiple nye parties |
| 22:38.12 | EyeCue | im at recovery already :) |
| 22:38.15 | EyeCue | Mon Jan 01 08:40:17 2007 |
| 22:47.39 | syamajala | should i enable config_calc_xlaw for 6 channels? |
| 22:47.53 | syamajala | i have a p2 with 512kb l2 cache |
| 22:48.17 | syamajala | and 4 fxo modules |
| 22:48.43 | syamajala | and i think i will need to add 2 fxs modules for modems |
| 22:55.29 | Druken | i wouldn't count on running data calls threw fxs and fxo modules.... |
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| 22:58.13 | unsucht | hi how do i make asterisk start automatically on boot |
| 22:58.22 | luke-jr | is it possible to make an AGI that does audio via stdin/out? |
| 22:58.53 | EyeCue | depends on the os |
| 22:58.59 | luke-jr | Linux |
| 23:15.43 | Rhizome | Happy new year ;) |
| 23:15.51 | jpsaman | Happy New year |
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