irclog2html for #asterisk on 20070114

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`00:15.57`	`rabelais`	`I have a question about wifi voip phones (I know it's not asterisk related, just looking for opinions) I'm considering the utstarcam F100G and the linksys WIP300, any thoughts on one versus the other? or recommendations?`
`00:16.28`	`rabelais`	`naturally, it will be tied into asterisk...so if there are any conflicts there, that is also a concern of mine`
`00:17.56`	`monsted`	`the cisco one is thoroughly unimpressive`
`00:18.33`	`EmleyMoor`	`monsted: As in "works OK but boring" or "doesn't work well"?`
`00:18.41`	`rabelais`	`monsted, even on the latest firmware, things are bad?`
`00:19.05`	`monsted`	`EmleyMoor: "works but boring"`
`00:20.02`	`rabelais`	`monsted, in your opinion, what would make it better, or what is it lacking?`
`00:20.50`	`monsted`	`rabelais: note that it's the cisco one, not the linksys :)`
`00:21.03`	`RoyK`	`iPhone promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xXNoB3t8vM`
`00:21.26`	`rabelais`	`monsted, sorry, to me those are the came company....which cisco phone are you talking about?`
`00:21.31`	`rabelais`	`*same company`
`00:22.00`	`monsted`	`cisco 7920`
`00:22.44`	`monsted`	`the interface is weird, bad battery life and it's ugly`
`00:23.08`	`monsted`	`they may have made it less broken in newer revisions, but i kinda doubt it :)`
`00:23.11`	`rabelais`	`I've seen pictures of that one....reminds me of the ancient cell phones from yesteryear`
`00:24.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : All WiFi phones suck. PERIOD. Some just a little less than others`
`00:24.23`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, agreed, I'm expecting that....I'm just wondering between the F1000G and the WIP300 (which are both sorta in my budget) which sucks less`
`00:24.55`	`rabelais`	`I get no cell phone reception on campus, but the entire place is laced with wifi....so a voip phone that works would be excellent`
`00:24.56`	`perd`	`why not just get a TDM400 and good regular wireless phones`
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`00:25.20`	`perd`	`it would probably cost about the same`
`00:25.43`	`perd`	`just get a HUGE antenna.`
`00:26.09`	`rabelais`	`hah`
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`00:27.04`	`monsted`	`rabelais: have someone plop a cell tower on the roof of your building :)`
`00:27.22`	`rabelais`	`monsted, ya, I wish....but my school doesn't allow verizon towers`
`00:27.26`	`perd`	`yeah then you can get all those healthy microwaves`
`00:28.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : Well the WIP300's interface is nice, as tits the physical body. It has NO calling features thouhg. no hold, transfer, conference or ANYTHING.`
`00:28.59`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, that's ok....I have all calling features implemented via asterisk and DTMF stuff....so it's not a huge loss`
`00:29.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : And the otherone is reports to be shoddy construction, and I've had a client with them where thy timeout somewhat frequently. Not sure about features though.`
`00:29.37`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, is the battery life ok on the WIP300?`
`00:29.40`	`monsted`	`rabelais: we're a national telco with our own cell provider and coverage in our building was useless - you had to use a competitor to get coverage ;)`
`00:30.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : I've never gotten that far, but the guy in my office who uses it has never told me it ran out so I'll presume its "decent"`
`00:30.29`	`rabelais`	`monsted, that's horrible`
`00:30.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`monsted : </snicker>`
`00:30.49`	`monsted`	`now, that's not so much of a problem ;)`
`00:30.55`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, thanks`
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`00:30.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : Seriouslt, is this for a fixed location?`
`00:31.17`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, is what, the phone?`
`00:31.29`	`Druken`	`rabelais: the battery power on a wip300 is about 2 days...`
`00:31.31`	`Druken`	`of normal use`
`00:31.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : yes`
`00:31.40`	`Druken`	`typical of a cellphone`
`00:31.46`	`rabelais`	`Druken, ahh, ok...thanks`
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`00:32.01`	`Druken`	`it'll go almost a week on standby`
`00:32.07`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, heavens no....I'm not crazy....I have my sipura SPA-200 for my dorm room`
`00:32.07`	`robink`	`Is it possible to get Asterisk working with Linksys' "Skype" phones?`
`00:32.23`	`Qwell`	`robink: Asterisk isn't Skype, so...no`
`00:32.26`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, I just need something to replace my cellphone on campus because I get no reception`
`00:32.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : Ok, well I guess thats the only real choice....`
`00:33.02`	`rabelais`	`and I figured since there is full wifi coverage, I need to get something to utilize that infrastructure`
`00:33.10`	`Druken`	`and campus should have a nice properly built wifi network`
`00:33.22`	`Druken`	`with all the AP's bridged`
`00:33.32`	`rabelais`	`oh ya...it does`
`00:33.38`	`rabelais`	`I wander around wtih my laptop on all the time`
`00:33.51`	`rabelais`	`and it never needs to refresh the dhcp lease`
`00:34.06`	`rabelais`	`they definitely did a good job with the bridging`
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`00:34.23`	`rabelais`	`the only issue was the med school, which used to have a https based auth script`
`00:34.38`	`rabelais`	`so that killed any hope of me getting a cheap wifi phone`
`00:34.56`	`rabelais`	`but since the new year, they fixed the problem and the auth script is gone....whee : )`
`00:35.02`	`Druken`	`that's when ya go 330, with the browser :)`
`00:35.21`	`rabelais`	`well, ya....except I don't have $300 to spare`
`00:35.56`	`Druken`	`6 months or less of cell service, and you've got your 300 back`
`00:36.34`	`rabelais`	`that's the other catch, I don't pay for my cell service....it's piggy-backed on my parents....family plan for $15 a month more`
`00:37.16`	`Druken`	`sounds like bell...`
`00:37.33`	`rabelais`	`bell?`
`00:37.36`	`Druken`	`or is that verison? i don't remember`
`00:37.40`	`rabelais`	`verizon`
`00:37.51`	`Druken`	`bell == cdn carrier`
`00:38.00`	`rabelais`	`bell mobility, ya`
`00:38.12`	`rabelais`	`I'm in the states`
`00:38.22`	`Druken`	`i noticed... stanford`
`00:38.23`	`robink`	`Qwell: ...the interesting thing here is that the Skype phones talk to a Skype client. I was wondering if the protocol Skype clients use to talk to an external device is open spec...`
`00:38.36`	`rabelais`	`it's just so ridiculous, outside campus reception is wonderful, full EVDO and all that jazz`
`00:38.45`	`robink`	`Qwell: I know the Skype server protocol is closed (and probably patented)`
`00:39.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Druken : My cell plan costs 20$/mo. Thats 240$/year... :)`
`00:39.51`	`Druken`	`[TK]D-Fender: i'm lucky if my cell bill is under $150 a MONTH`
`00:40.02`	`battini`	`how the hell did you get a cell plan for 20 a month?`
`00:40.09`	`battini`	`im surprised you are allowed to turn the phone on for that`
`00:40.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`battini : Bonus : CAD$ :)`
`00:40.54`	`battini`	`ah`
`00:40.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`battini : 50 mins /daytime, unlimited evening/weekend, Voicemail.`
`00:40.58`	`battini`	`so thats like 80 american`
`00:40.59`	`battini`	`=P`
`00:41.00`	`rabelais`	`that's why....he doesn't get shafted with american plans`
`00:41.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`battini : Bush is working on that ;)`
`00:41.25`	`battini`	`yeah i know`
`00:41.43`	`rabelais`	`battini, 20CAD is less than 20 USD....`
`00:41.44`	`battini`	`he's a workin hard`
`00:41.55`	`rabelais`	`or am I wrong?`
`00:41.58`	`battini`	`rabelais thats what the joke was.`
`00:42.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : You need to check your math.....`
`00:42.03`	`battini`	`that 20 candian is 80 american.`
`00:42.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : jsut a little ;)`
`00:42.30`	`rabelais`	`hmm`
`00:42.59`	`rabelais`	`I'm confused`
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`00:43.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`almost par... Mein-Shrubbery is going to put you BELOW if he isn't ousted......`
`00:43.23`	`rabelais`	`is the canadian dollar symbol CAD?`
`00:43.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : Yes, canadian.`
`00:44.11`	`rabelais`	`http://www.google.com/search?q=20CAD+in+USD&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official`
`00:44.15`	`rabelais`	`so then where am I wrong?`
`00:44.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : no, not far off.`
`00:44.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rabelais : I initially misready your stement...`
`00:45.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`http://www.xe.com/ <- best place`
`00:45.10`	`rabelais`	`ahh, ok....so it's not 80USD....for a moment I thoguht my world was upside down`
`00:45.18`	`rabelais`	`[TK]D-Fender, yes, I checked that as well, haha`
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`00:46.01`	`battini`	`rabelais 80 was a joke`
`00:47.06`	`rabelais`	`do any retail stores carry these wifi phones?`
`00:47.43`	`AJaymn`	`www.voipsupply.com`
`00:48.02`	`rabelais`	`I meant brick and mortar retail`
`00:48.18`	`AJaymn`	`OfficeMax use to, they were pulled from shelves 4 months ago.`
`00:48.19`	`rabelais`	`I wish I could get my hands on these and just feel them around a bit`
`00:48.24`	`rabelais`	`really?`
`00:48.26`	`rabelais`	`blast`
`00:49.01`	`battini`	`that wip300 is kinda sexy in a way`
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`00:49.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`It was bound to happen, I'd predicted this sort of thing ages ago! : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/01/13/wgoogle13.xml`
`00:49.53`	`KuJaX`	`Is there a package ISO anywhere that will INSTALL Asterisk AND a good distro of Linux?`
`00:50.11`	`KuJaX`	`Something that gives the minimal (not looking for something like Trixbox)`
`00:50.27`	`KuJaX`	`Just something that someone did to get people into a good stable Asterisk and linux distro quickly.`
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`00:50.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Nothing advisable. just install CentOS, and take 5 minuts to compile * yourself`
`00:50.55`	`monsted`	`there's no such thing as a good distro of linux ;)`
`00:51.33`	`KuJaX`	`is fedora a good distro to use with Asterisk? I have heard a lot of people in here talk about Centos but don't have any experience with it with * and also SugarCRM`
`00:52.14`	`monsted`	`any distro works just fine`
`00:52.28`	`rabelais`	`asterisk isn't very distro specific`
`00:52.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : CentOS = RHEL.`
`00:52.29`	`monsted`	`use whatever distro you feel comfortable with`
`00:52.50`	`KuJaX`	`Going to try CentOS 4.4 then.`
`00:53.13`	`KuJaX`	`guide on voip-info that is percise with compiling * and not installing a bunch of CentOS garbage that doesn't need to be used?`
`00:53.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Which effectively inherits all documention for it. So yes, you could consider it better supported than just about everything else.`
`00:53.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Its just like asterisk.org says : "./configure" , make, make install, yadda, yadda`
`00:54.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : It IS that easy.`
`00:54.32`	`KuJaX`	`Fender: Yeah, I just don't want a lot of features that CentOS has to offer if I am only going to be using this for * and SugarCRM`
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`00:54.48`	`battini`	`asterisk is a pretty easy install`
`00:54.50`	`battini`	`it just...works.`
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`00:55.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : then simply IGNORE the rest or choose your packages when you install`
`00:56.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : If you're qualified to admin a sane linux distro this should be rocket science for you. Heck, I SUCK at Linux and do just fine.`
`00:56.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : had a clint this week for a remote * install on a fresh "basic" CentOS system.`
`00:57.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : I installed *, Sangoma Wanpipe driver for his card and had everything up trouble free in no time..`
`00:57.32`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: Problem is that I am going to be holding very sensitive data on this server, so I would hate for a l33t hax0r to get in. :)`
`00:58.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Are you exposing this entire server to the internet at large?`
`00:58.48`	`battini`	`firewalls in front of things are a good thing`
`00:59.01`	`monsted`	`KuJaX: part of the asterisk stuff is highly sensitive or are you having it do two jobs?`
`01:00.06`	`battini`	`this movie is freaky`
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`01:01.23`	`KuJaX`	`during centos install, should I configure with Firewall? I wouldn't imagine I would as I am going to have inbound and outbound calls.`
`01:01.41`	`KuJaX`	`Also what about SELinux enabled or disabled? .... again, inbound and outbound calls, not sure if i want selinux or firewall.`
`01:02.02`	`battini`	`you always want a firewall =P`
`01:02.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : how long have you been using Linux at all, and any RH experience?`
`01:02.07`	`battini`	`you just need to open some ports`
`01:02.56`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: I know a bit, but I dont know how to like setup iptables or open ports correctly.`
`01:03.04`	`KuJaX`	`I will enable firewall and selinux.`
`01:03.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : SELinux is not a good idea until you really know what you are doing.`
`01:03.34`	`battini`	`you need 5060 and 10000-20000`
`01:03.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : It causes .... problems.`
`01:03.57`	`KuJaX`	`okay, so SElinux Disabled. Enable Firewall though on SSH , HTTP, FTP, SMTP`
`01:04.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Calls coming and going from where?`
`01:04.09`	`KuJaX`	`battini - Yes, but I don't know how to open ports from within CentOS after I get to console.`
`01:04.20`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: From this server, controlling the * server :)`
`01:04.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : TONS of guides out there on this...`
`01:04.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Go download allt he free books on RHEL`
`01:04.35`	`battini`	`dont open ftp =P`
`01:05.19`	`battini`	`and what all do you plan on running on the server?`
`01:05.26`	`battini`	`do you really need smtp and http?`
`01:05.41`	`KuJaX`	`Technically Yes, because I am going to be running SugarCRM (only locally through)`
`01:05.48`	`KuJaX`	`Server is going to be used only for Asterisk and SugarCRM.`
`01:06.17`	`battini`	`does sugarcrm use apache or its own http server?`
`01:06.37`	`KuJaX`	`apache`
`01:06.41`	`battini`	`k`
`01:06.45`	`KuJaX`	`I choose minimal during CentOS install`
`01:06.55`	`KuJaX`	`Enabled Firewall, disabled selinux, and choose MINIMAl (disabling all packages)`
`01:07.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX`
`01:07.17`	`KuJaX`	`will just have to install the appropriate things for asterisk and sugarcrm (such as apache, mysql and php)`
`01:07.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Should shoose "server" + deveel at the very least`
`01:07.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Or you'll end up wasting LOTS fo time fulfilling dependencies....`
`01:07.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : You are getting way to paranoid for practicality...`
`01:08.12`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: formatting right now.... lol :) Can't I just install devel from within console?`
`01:08.13`	`battini`	`heh`
`01:08.28`	`battini`	`if you are worried about the asterisk install going nice, which it seems you are`
`01:08.32`	`battini`	`minimum is a bad idea`
`01:08.33`	`KuJaX`	`I choose the "minimal" selection from "server' menu of the disc`
`01:08.45`	`KuJaX`	`baahhhh, you guys said easy as pie! :)`
`01:08.53`	`KuJaX`	`lol, now I have to format this puppy again :)`
`01:08.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : You are making bigger decisions at the start that you'll have to download TONS f stuff piece by piece for as you try to actually DO anything.`
`01:08.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Restart`
`01:09.03`	`battini`	`it is easy as pie`
`01:09.08`	`battini`	`if you actually enable things =P`
`01:09.13`	`KuJaX`	`Just turn it off while it is installing verything?`
`01:09.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : YOU are making this painful!`
`01:09.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Just choose "server" + devel and you should be fine`
`01:10.05`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: Am I safe just turning it off while it is installing everything?`
`01:10.14`	`battini`	`yeah just format again`
`01:10.23`	`battini`	`what does centos use for a package manager?`
`01:10.25`	`battini`	`yum?`
`01:10.30`	`KuJaX`	`I believe so.`
`01:10.41`	`KuJaX`	`but what do i know? ;)`
`01:10.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : You're right, you might corrupt your HD.... oh wait.. you're about to reformat it! ;)`
`01:11.06`	`KuJaX`	`okay, okay, okay,back to square one. :)`
`01:11.19`	`KuJaX`	`hehehe`
`01:11.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`battini : yes`
`01:11.29`	`battini`	`KuJaX work slowly, get use to things, then remove packages you dont need`
`01:11.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`battini : hell LEAVE the packages, just choose which services LOAD.`
`01:11.54`	`battini`	`dont expect to go head first into a distro`
`01:11.59`	`battini`	`without knowing anything about it`
`01:11.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`battini : 5 minute job if even`
`01:12.08`	`battini`	`install a minimum system, and expect it to work`
`01:12.14`	`KuJaX`	`lol`
`01:12.32`	`KuJaX`	`Thanks for the help battini and D-Fender`
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`01:13.04`	`battini`	`its not like you are installing on a 400mb hd where space matters right?`
`01:13.25`	`KuJaX`	`right, but I don't want a ton of features that may be security threats in the future.`
`01:13.44`	`battini`	`thats why you disable startup items`
`01:13.46`	`battini`	`if it aint running`
`01:13.49`	`battini`	`it aint a security issue`
`01:14.03`	`KuJaX`	`again, this server is only for asterisk and sugarcrm. Now I only want "development Tools" from the "development" coulumn of install?`
`01:14.08`	`battini`	`and if you are that worried about it, have the box behind a box designated as JUST a firewall`
`01:14.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Go to www.centos.org and download all the free admin guides.`
`01:14.16`	`KuJaX`	`I dont need "server configuration tools, or web server, windows file server, etc"`
`01:14.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Which is actually RHEL docs :)`
`01:14.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : YES, jsut do it!`
`01:14.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : Get your hands off your nuts and SEIZE THE DAY!`
`01:15.01`	`battini`	`haha`
`01:15.27`	`KuJaX`	`Okay, only thing is 57/75 of Development Tools. Nothing else is selected.`
`01:15.37`	`KuJaX`	`well, and admin tools (11/12)`
`01:15.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : take them all.`
`01:16.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`what the hell... least you won't have to go looking for them`
`01:16.15`	`monsted`	`KuJaX: just make sure that anything that can listen on a port is either uninstalled or at least shut down`
`01:16.51`	`KuJaX`	`monsted: Exactly, I am not an expert so I don't know what ports are getting open, etc.`
`01:17.03`	`KuJaX`	`Okay so admin tools and al 75 of the dev tools. Ready to install? :)`
`01:17.11`	`monsted`	`having no service running is better than a firewall :)`
`01:17.44`	`monsted`	`you could argue against haveing dev tools at all, but that's a pain in the behind`
`01:17.59`	`KuJaX`	`"Next"? :) or should I add/remove anything else?`
`01:18.48`	`KuJaX`	`installing`
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`01:23.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`monsted : Goo luck COMPILING * without them :)`
`01:24.14`	`monsted`	`[TK]D-Fender: you compile stuff on your software staging box, then transfer a package to your production system`
`01:25.23`	`rene-`	`i have zap incoming calls coming to agent 1 in queue a, agent 1 transfers to queue_b or to some_exten using #, agent 1 keeps tied up until the zap channel is hung up. transfer enabled in zapata, 't' enabled in the queue, canreinvite=no for all the agents... what am i missing>???`
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`01:27.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`monsted : Ok, thats something a VERY knowledgeable (and probably equally SICK) person might do :)`
`01:27.40`	`battini`	`yeah really`
`01:27.42`	`monsted`	`[TK]D-Fender: we do it on all of our solaris systems`
`01:27.44`	`battini`	`who has that much time in their day =P`
`01:27.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`monsted : Although the staging box would have to have all the same hardware & kernel as Zaptel is very "personal"`
`01:28.13`	`monsted`	`combination of it being The Right Thing[TM] and solaris being a pain to get a compiler to run on`
`01:28.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`monsted : I'm betting Solaris' toolset and environment is likely more sane for such pactices...`
`01:29.12`	`monsted`	`many rootkits rely on there being a compiler on the host. if you have no compiler, an attacker has less chance of using the box for anything if he gets in`
`01:29.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`monsted : And what stops them from INSTALLING on they can run under whatever user the'ye on?`
`01:31.12`	`monsted`	`[TK]D-Fender: well, there usually won't be any way to get their own software on the box, unless the dump it via a terminnal`
`01:31.16`	`monsted`	`terminal, even`
`01:32.11`	`battini`	`thats because you don't have a compiler`
`01:33.24`	`b11d`	`its gonna be a long night..`
`01:33.26`	`b11d`	`i can feel it`
`01:33.30`	`battini`	`yeah just let me know when that goes production for ya =P`
`01:34.08`	`b11d`	`my telco made ported four wrong DID's tonight.`
`01:34.16`	`b11d`	`they transposed the middle two digits :\|`
`01:34.20`	`b11d`	`sigh`
`01:34.37`	`battini`	`heh`
`01:37.39`	`[hC]`	`anyone know of a place online i might be able to find pricing for cisco and cisco callmanager products? i need some information for competition on a quote`
`01:38.21`	`Sweeper`	`I suggest google`
`01:40.28`	`[hC]`	`I'll keep trying. Its hard weeding thru cisco.com links that tell you nothing.`
`01:40.29`	`[hC]`	`:)`
`01:42.05`	`monsted`	`there are no prices on cisco.com, unless you have a partner account`
`01:43.02`	`Sweeper`	`just google "buy cisco"`
`01:44.03`	`b11d`	`online quotes are always bullshit anyways.. you need to talk to a sales rep, and its the weekend.. so you're not going to get realistic pricing at all`
`01:44.14`	`[hC]`	`yup.`
`01:44.47`	`monsted`	`the prices you can get on cisco.com are list prices anyway... i don't think anyone actually pays that :)`
`01:44.55`	`b11d`	`yeah unless youre a sucker`
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`01:45.06`	`b11d`	`you gotta talk to the account reps..`
`01:45.07`	`Sweeper`	`of course, you're buying cisco, sooooo ;)`
`01:45.26`	`b11d`	`i dont think i've ever got less than 40% off list price on new cisco gear..`
`01:45.32`	`[hC]`	`This guy had a quote for 33 seats, 8 7970's, 25 7940's, call manager express, 50 vm boxes, pri interface, 6 fxo interfaces, 2 fxs interfaces, 48 port poe switch, and they claimed it was just under 40k canadian. So they have got to be gouging them per year over 3 years or something to really drive their cost up. thats way too low.`
`01:45.43`	`b11d`	`i work at a school though, i dont know if we get special treatment or not`
`01:46.07`	`b11d`	`one thing to always remember about cisco.. they are not a hardware company. they are software & support.`
`01:46.19`	`b11d`	`the hardware is just the trick to get you in..`
`01:47.07`	`[hC]`	`yeah`
`01:47.22`	`[hC]`	`if i recall, they usually get 100% back extra in a support contract`
`01:47.30`	`[hC]`	`so a 40k quote can push close to 100k after 3 years`
`01:47.35`	`b11d`	`yeah SMARTnet sucks..`
`01:47.45`	`b11d`	`i mean, the quality is there.. but still..`
`01:48.05`	`b11d`	`its like if you dont sign up for it, cisco sends out hired goons to smash your switches :)`
`01:49.13`	`monsted`	`riiiight`
`01:49.47`	`[hC]`	`exactly`
`01:49.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`b11d : I heard they had to cut back... not its just some guy with a board w/ a nail :)`
`01:50.20`	`b11d`	`hahaha`
`01:50.27`	`b11d`	`i guess i'll have to get a bigger board with a bigger nail`
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`01:52.00`	`karmatronic`	`has anyone ever made chan_bluetooth work ?`
`01:52.28`	`nibbler_de`	`i heard about it working - yup - but i can't believe it myself :)`
`01:53.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, off to shark it up at the pool hall. Back in a few hours....`
`01:54.30`	`karmatronic`	`nibbler_de, i ve got it mostly working, just that i dont hear anything ...`
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`02:02.19`	`marty-ott-athome`	`hey.. can someone tell me what in the following link would be my Zaptel source directory?`
`02:02.20`	`marty-ott-athome`	`http://rafb.net/p/XRoNpN37.html`
`02:04.52`	`battini`	`./usr/ports/misc/zaptel/work/zaptel-bsd-1.0/zaptel`
`02:04.52`	`battini`	`./usr/ports/misc/zaptel/work/zaptel`
`02:04.56`	`battini`	`one of those two i would imagine`
`02:05.11`	`marty-ott-athome`	`cool! thanks...`
`02:05.20`	`Thazza`	`./usr/ports/misc/zaptel`
`02:05.32`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Ok... cool... thanks!`
`02:05.41`	`battini`	`the "source" dir would be the in the work dir would it not?`
`02:05.46`	`battini`	`since the actual source is in there`
`02:05.57`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Thazza- what do you think?`
`02:06.04`	`marty-ott-athome`	`I'm installing the Sangoma FreeBSD driver.`
`02:06.10`	`marty-ott-athome`	`It's asking for the path`
`02:06.20`	`Thazza`	`Would depend on which files are in all 3 of those dirs`
`02:06.44`	`marty-ott-athome`	`I guess I'll have to look: Any type of file(s) I should be looking for?`
`02:06.45`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Please specify absolute path to Zapter source directory`
`02:06.45`	`marty-ott-athome`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:07.06`	`battini`	`what i would do is actually donwload the zaptel package`
`02:07.11`	`battini`	`instead of trying to work off the port`
`02:07.26`	`marty-ott-athome`	`It's already download and installed though..`
`02:07.38`	`battini`	`im saying dont use the port`
`02:07.49`	`Thazza`	`marty-ott-athome: why don't you do a dump of the ls -l of the 3 dirs we listed.`
`02:07.56`	`marty-ott-athome`	`battini: I think you're right thouhg (oh)... well, it's probably looking for the zt tools`
`02:08.02`	`b11d`	`sigh`
`02:08.12`	`marty-ott-athome`	`which is in: ./usr/ports/misc/zaptel/work/zaptel-bsd-1.0/zaptel`
`02:08.17`	`b11d`	`you need to specify to /zaptel`
`02:08.18`	`b11d`	`yeah`
`02:08.19`	`b11d`	`thats it then`
`02:08.30`	`battini`	`god i love beer`
`02:08.38`	`b11d`	`be prepared to use an older version of wanpipe marty..`
`02:08.44`	`b11d`	`the latest did not work for me`
`02:08.52`	`marty-ott-athome`	`really eh...`
`02:08.55`	`b11d`	`yeah`
`02:08.57`	`b11d`	`on 6.2-pre`
`02:09.17`	`battini`	`just dont use fbsd =P`
`02:09.43`	`marty-ott-athome`	`I'm on 6.1 and using WanPipe 2.8.4-5`
`02:09.48`	`b11d`	`no.. it runs so great on fbsd`
`02:09.52`	`b11d`	`ahh.. i used 2.8.5-5`
`02:10.37`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Well, we're a BSD shop where I work.. :P ... and I personally have server running about 8 server applications and it has not crashed ever since it's been booted 550 some days ago.`
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`02:10.58`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Well.. time to specify the path and see what happens`
`02:11.05`	`rene-`	`i got it working <BIG GREEN>`
`02:11.17`	`battini`	`i never liked ports too much`
`02:11.35`	`rene-`	`s/GREEN/GRIN/`
`02:11.43`	`b11d`	`marty.. thats 550 days of unpatched garbage`
`02:11.54`	`battini`	`heh`
`02:12.05`	`battini`	`"LOOK I HAVE THE MOST INSECURE SERVER ON THE INTRAWEBS"`
`02:12.06`	`battini`	`:/`
`02:12.07`	`b11d`	`believe me.. in 550 days.. there HAS been a kernel patch issued for YOUR box :)`
`02:12.21`	`b11d`	`exactly battini.. i wish people'd quit being proud of uptime..`
`02:12.25`	`battini`	`thats why my linux box has only been up 17 days!`
`02:12.25`	`marty-ott-athome`	`That's why we had to take it down and replace it with an upgraded version :) (I was NOT telling the whole truth) but what I mean is it never crashed - always ran perfect`
`02:12.26`	`battini`	`j/k`
`02:12.32`	`b11d`	`ohh`
`02:12.33`	`b11d`	`:)`
`02:12.34`	`b11d`	`haha`
`02:12.51`	`b11d`	`i totally hear you though marty.. same experiences here.`
`02:13.03`	`b11d`	`any downtime I have, is scheduled..`
`02:13.04`	`battini`	`I havnt touched fbsd in so long`
`02:13.06`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok now I have to specify the absolute path for the WANPIPE package... ( :) )`
`02:13.11`	`battini`	`ever since 4.3 or somewhere along there`
`02:13.25`	`b11d`	`ahh`
`02:13.32`	`b11d`	`its made some significant changes..`
`02:13.36`	`b11d`	`brb`
`02:13.36`	`battini`	`it went haywire with either my nic, or something with roadrunner`
`02:13.47`	`battini`	`20000ms pings through routers is a bad thing (TM)`
`02:13.50`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Freebsd did? strange`
`02:13.52`	`battini`	`so thats the last time i ran it`
`02:14.21`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Well, I swear by FreeBSD .. so far`
`02:14.27`	`b11d`	`same`
`02:14.30`	`marty-ott-athome`	`I used to be Linux`
`02:14.41`	`marty-ott-athome`	`And I still like Linux but I like BSD more.. ;P`
`02:14.41`	`b11d`	`openbsd has done a lot though recently.. im seriously thinking of migrating..`
`02:14.44`	`b11d`	`where I can, that is.`
`02:14.50`	`b11d`	`openbsd's SMP support is crucial`
`02:14.51`	`battini`	`it was weird too, because it was a 3com using the x10 driver thing`
`02:15.21`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Really eh.. b11d: you should do the BSDCAN in Ottawa, Canada.. happens every year - people from all over the world: U.S., U.K. as far as Australia`
`02:15.23`	`b11d`	`who knows..`
`02:15.30`	`b11d`	`yeah im aware of it`
`02:15.34`	`b11d`	`greg lahey started it`
`02:15.34`	`marty-ott-athome`	`if you have the time ..`
`02:16.00`	`marty-ott-athome`	`I heard that name.. Dru Lavigne, our instructor for BSD, most likely knows him`
`02:16.01`	`b11d`	`i might just do that.. i can fly anywhere nwa flys now for free :p`
`02:16.10`	`marty-ott-athome`	`SHIT.. how come?`
`02:16.13`	`b11d`	`yep.. that name is familiar`
`02:16.19`	`b11d`	`a friend of mine works there.. i got "on the list"`
`02:16.21`	`marty-ott-athome`	`That's nice to have.. (she wrote BSD HAcks)`
`02:16.31`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Nice... wish I had that type of friend`
`02:16.33`	`b11d`	`yeah thats where i heard it from`
`02:16.37`	`b11d`	`yeah, it was lucky..`
`02:16.43`	`b11d`	`it costs $50 a year to be "on the list"`
`02:16.51`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Yeah, chump change`
`02:16.51`	`b11d`	`but after that.. no charge`
`02:17.03`	`b11d`	`exactly`
`02:17.09`	`battini`	`no wonder air carriers dont make shit for money`
`02:17.13`	`battini`	`and have to keep being bailed out`
`02:17.17`	`marty-ott-athome`	`lol`
`02:17.23`	`b11d`	`my friend says a guy from delhi calls every now and again and gets a round trip ticket from Delhi to Amsterdam.. $16,000`
`02:17.43`	`b11d`	`i cant imainge spending that kinda cash on a single airline ticket :)`
`02:17.57`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Hey, my wifey is waiting for me - we're gonan wathc a movie but I have to figure out the rest of this install first... (Yeah, that's nuts)`
`02:18.07`	`b11d`	`take care marty`
`02:18.21`	`marty-ott-athome`	`yeah.. but what do they mean:`
`02:18.22`	`b11d`	`watch Ernest Goes to Camp`
`02:18.25`	`b11d`	`it's a real turn on`
`02:18.25`	`b11d`	`:P`
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`02:18.46`	`battini`	`dude`
`02:18.51`	`battini`	`dont be dissin ernest`
`02:18.54`	`b11d`	`im not`
`02:18.58`	`battini`	`he's not a bad guy`
`02:19.02`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Specify absolute path for WANPIPE package (Press <enter> for default: /) (we're gonna watch: Da Vinci Code)`
`02:19.05`	`battini`	`(off quoting ernest goes to camp)`
`02:19.20`	`b11d`	`that movie was alright..`
`02:19.21`	`b11d`	`marty..`
`02:19.26`	`b11d`	`use .`
`02:19.35`	`marty-ott-athome`	`current directory?`
`02:19.39`	`b11d`	`you are installing via pkg_add right?`
`02:19.41`	`marty-ott-athome`	`yep`
`02:19.47`	`b11d`	`and you're in the same dir as the package?`
`02:19.49`	`b11d`	`when you ran it`
`02:19.56`	`marty-ott-athome`	`and the .tgz was installed in my home directory where ... exactly`
`02:19.59`	`b11d`	`yeah`
`02:20.00`	`b11d`	`.`
`02:20.02`	`b11d`	`thats it`
`02:20.11`	`marty-ott-athome`	`so that woudl be /home/martin then (they want the absolute path)`
`02:20.20`	`b11d`	`im telling you man`
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`02:20.24`	`b11d`	`when i do that.. thats what i use`
`02:20.24`	`b11d`	`it works`
`02:20.31`	`b11d`	`i never have to specify it otherwise`
`02:20.40`	`marty-ott-athome`	`so no /home/martin ... just .`
`02:20.44`	`b11d`	`try it out`
`02:20.46`	`marty-ott-athome`	`k`
`02:20.49`	`b11d`	`if it fails.. you use pkg_delete and try again`
`02:20.50`	`b11d`	`its really clean`
`02:20.56`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok good`
`02:21.13`	`b11d`	`i hate that it requires bash`
`02:21.14`	`b11d`	`i hate bash`
`02:21.23`	`marty-ott-athome`	`well, didn't complain and it's now compliling WANPIPE driver/utilities`
`02:21.27`	`b11d`	`coolio`
`02:21.39`	`battini`	`dude`
`02:21.41`	`marty-ott-athome`	`LOL and it failed..`
`02:21.42`	`battini`	`dont be dissin bash.`
`02:21.47`	`b11d`	`im dissing bash.`
`02:21.49`	`b11d`	`i dislike bash.`
`02:21.56`	`b11d`	`tcsh = 4 life`
`02:21.58`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Compiling WANPIPE driver/utilities ..... Failed (/usr/local/wanpipe-2.8.4-5/sources)!`
`02:22.03`	`battini`	`psh.`
`02:22.05`	`b11d`	`haha`
`02:22.08`	`b11d`	`ok specify /home/martin then :P`
`02:22.09`	`battini`	`how could you ever hate bash.`
`02:22.13`	`b11d`	`i just dont like it..`
`02:22.14`	`marty-ott-athome`	`lol!`
`02:22.16`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok`
`02:22.29`	`b11d`	`what can I say? its a personal choice..`
`02:22.37`	`b11d`	`I didnt say "battini needs to switch to tcsh"`
`02:22.39`	`b11d`	`:)`
`02:22.42`	`battini`	`i dont think i ever used tsch`
`02:22.47`	`battini`	`ive always just used bash`
`02:22.56`	`b11d`	`it's all a matter of what you're used to..`
`02:23.07`	`b11d`	`tcsh does what i need to, in a way thats convenient for me.. as im sure bash does for you`
`02:24.36`	`marty-ott-athome`	`failed again.. I have a feeling I'll have to untar the package first`
`02:24.41`	`marty-ott-athome`	`anwyasy.. I'll continue tomorrow`
`02:24.55`	`marty-ott-athome`	`Have a good night b11d, battini`
`02:25.06`	`b11d`	`hey`
`02:25.09`	`b11d`	`juse use the /`
`02:25.15`	`b11d`	`i just reviewed my documentation`
`02:25.18`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok I'll try again right now again then`
`02:25.22`	`b11d`	`you cannot do it from source`
`02:25.25`	`b11d`	`you need to do the pkg_add`
`02:25.39`	`b11d`	`otherwise you'll get so hopelessly lost its not even believeable`
`02:26.05`	`rene-`	`later`
`02:26.08`	`rene-`	`dudes`
`02:26.08`	`b11d`	`bigh`
`02:26.15`	`marty-ott-athome`	`trying again right now...`
`02:26.19`	`b11d`	`ok`
`02:26.34`	`b11d`	`i dont recall if 2.8.4 ever worked for me. you may need to go to 2.8.5..`
`02:26.49`	`b11d`	`this guy rocks:`
`02:26.51`	`b11d`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8jy2bEt-M`
`02:27.05`	`marty-ott-athome`	`hey it worked.`
`02:27.21`	`b11d`	`cool`
`02:27.22`	`marty-ott-athome`	`it's asking me if I want to udpdate the kernel -can I do that later?`
`02:27.34`	`b11d`	`yeah.. just be sure that "device sdla" is in there`
`02:27.37`	`b11d`	`and recompile it`
`02:27.50`	`b11d`	`you need to have it in ther kernel, not a loadable module`
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`02:28.07`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok`
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`02:30.30`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok cool 0 now I'm going - thaanks for the good advice!`
`02:31.18`	`b11d`	`np`
`02:31.20`	`b11d`	`take care mang`
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`02:31.58`	`battini`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgb3qDD2A00&NR`
`02:32.40`	`marty-ott-athome`	`well, ill be around.. my wife is still finishing reading an article in Vanity Fair`
`02:33.13`	`Hmmhesays`	`can someone send me a test fax?`
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`02:33.26`	`b11d`	`isure`
`02:33.44`	`b11d`	`battini.. wow.. really.. :)`
`02:33.48`	`battini`	`HEH`
`02:33.50`	`marty-ott-athome`	`http://rafb.net/p/7eS5xE43.html`
`02:34.48`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: how goes`
`02:34.55`	`CunningPike`	`Hey, [hC]`
`02:35.18`	`CunningPike`	`There is nothing sweeter than handing the Leafs a thrashing in Toronto`
`02:35.43`	`b11d`	`who thrashed them?`
`02:35.57`	`CunningPike`	`Vancouver are thrashing them - 6-1`
`02:35.58`	`b11d`	`Marty-OTT..?`
`02:36.08`	`b11d`	`well.. as long as its vancouver..`
`02:36.19`	`perd`	`anyone know a trick to solder without a soldering iron?`
`02:36.22`	`perd`	`HEH`
`02:36.28`	`marty-ott-athome`	`love the turtles! LOLOL!!`
`02:36.45`	`CunningPike`	`perd: Madras curry`
`02:36.47`	`b11d`	`marty.. disregard whatever that script says about kernel modules & updating and whatnot`
`02:36.53`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: you said it. :)`
`02:37.03`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok cool... the kernel HAS to be updated then..`
`02:37.11`	`b11d`	`yes`
`02:37.22`	`CunningPike`	`Pity blitzrage isn't about - he's a Leafs fan, apparently`
`02:37.27`	`b11d`	`its like whoever wrote it couldnt imagine not doing that :)`
`02:37.34`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: yeah he is.`
`02:37.40`	`CunningPike`	`Poor sap`
`02:37.48`	`b11d`	`if it were anyone other than the canucks or the red wings, i would care..`
`02:37.56`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: say, you didnt do a cisco callmanager cost comparison when having to introduce asterisk to the city, did you?`
`02:38.28`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: Only a back of the envelope job. Our neighbors to the west went with Cisco and spent a reported $1M`
`02:39.11`	`b11d`	`hc.. you're going to have to wait till monday :)`
`02:39.13`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: compared to your...`
`02:39.34`	`[hC]`	`b11d: I left my part number sheet on my desk at work, im just gonna grab it tomorrow and check it out online. No big deal`
`02:39.45`	`marty-ott-athome`	`my wifey LOVES the youtube turtles`
`02:39.53`	`perd`	`you tube turtles?`
`02:39.57`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: We expect to fund the entire project from the maintenance savings on our Nortel`
`02:40.06`	`b11d`	`tell her you want to screw like turtles tonight`
`02:40.10`	`battini`	`perd you could always use an oven =P`
`02:40.19`	`perd`	`oh the mating tortise`
`02:40.19`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: Total cost will probably be ~$100K`
`02:40.35`	`perd`	`those things sound like people`
`02:40.42`	`perd`	`weird`
`02:40.44`	`b11d`	`didnt people dub over it?`
`02:40.51`	`b11d`	`i thought that was people, making sound effects`
`02:40.53`	`battini`	`no`
`02:40.54`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: The bulk of that is phones`
`02:40.55`	`perd`	`haha oh`
`02:40.57`	`battini`	`the turtle really makes that noise`
`02:41.00`	`battini`	`thats whats great about it`
`02:41.01`	`b11d`	`man that cracks me up`
`02:41.15`	`b11d`	`nothing turns on the women like turtles going at it..`
`02:41.15`	`perd`	`male turtles get multiple orgasms`
`02:41.16`	`perd`	`lucky!`
`02:41.17`	`perd`	`haha`
`02:41.17`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: Couple of servers, PRI cards and Ditech echo can is the rest`
`02:41.21`	`b11d`	`im getting some turtles`
`02:41.39`	`CunningPike`	`Only on #asterisk can you find discussion about mating turtles`
`02:41.41`	`CunningPike`	`:)`
`02:42.02`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: nod. Ive got a comparison quote out against a cisco CM express which came in at the same price as me, was just looking for some figures to use to show this guy that its not just an up front cost. but ill have to wait til tomorrow to go get model numbers of the stuff he was quoted on to make it apples to apples.`
`02:42.04`	`battini`	`dont blame me.`
`02:42.07`	`b11d`	`yeah well we're a crossroads`
`02:42.20`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: How many sets?`
`02:42.24`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: 33.`
`02:42.56`	`[hC]`	`CunningPike: 7970's, cm express, pri interface, 4fxo 2fxs, and 50 vm boxes, or so. all smartnet contracted.`
`02:43.00`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok.. this is bad... Im trying to get the Da Vinci Code started but now my wife just want to see orgasmic turtoise on YOuTube - you've created a monster!!! and she's reading this too!!`
`02:43.02`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: Should be possible to make a case....... especially when you factor in annual maintenance`
`02:43.17`	`CunningPike`	`[hC]: biab - gotta tend to the kids`
`02:43.49`	`battini`	`Marty-OTT tell her to get to sucking`
`02:43.53`	`battini`	`and stop watching irc`
`02:43.59`	`b11d`	`yeahh`
`02:44.12`	`b11d`	`CunningPike.. this is the perfect opportunity for me to curse..`
`02:44.13`	`perd`	`haha ok...`
`02:44.20`	`b11d`	`i could be cursing up a storm right now`
`02:44.27`	`b11d`	`just wanted you to know.. im holding her down..`
`02:44.46`	`battini`	`sigh`
`02:44.51`	`battini`	`I really need to get a washer and dryer`
`02:44.52`	`battini`	`this blows`
`02:45.02`	`b11d`	`yeah.. go to your local community college`
`02:45.12`	`b11d`	`they have RHAA/HVAV programs and sell rebuilt ones cheap`
`02:45.14`	`b11d`	`usually`
`02:45.17`	`b11d`	`HVAC that is`
`02:45.31`	`marty-ott-athome`	`ok.. night all... =)`
`02:45.42`	`b11d`	`see ya`
`02:46.36`	`b11d`	`heh.. my fridge is from the local HVAC dept.. someone dropped it off because the handle broke..`
`02:46.41`	`b11d`	`so I spent $20 on a new handle..`
`02:46.43`	`b11d`	`good as new`
`02:46.51`	`b11d`	`some people.. i tell ya..`
`02:47.27`	`battini`	`i should be able to get a used set for like 200`
`02:47.49`	`b11d`	`omfg`
`02:47.53`	`b11d`	`.. must.. go to china..`
`02:47.54`	`b11d`	`http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6254763.stm`
`02:48.09`	`b11d`	`ohhhh yeeeeaaaaa`
`02:48.19`	`battini`	`wait`
`02:48.28`	`battini`	`they are going to have a LACK of wives`
`02:48.29`	`battini`	`not an influx`
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`02:49.12`	`b11d`	`DOH`
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`02:51.15`	`coppice`	`you can find plenty of potential wives in a chinese orphanage`
`02:52.00`	`b11d`	`nice thinking`
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`02:53.14`	`coppice`	`in china it is illegal for a doctor to tell parents the sex of an unborn baby, to try to cut down on this kind of problem. of course, doctors have no morality, so they take a bribe and tell the parents`
`02:54.51`	`b11d`	`i dont understand.. why wouldnt the parents want to know?`
`02:55.03`	`battini`	`b11d parents over there want a boy`
`02:55.03`	`b11d`	`or, why wouldnt the doctors tell them?`
`02:55.06`	`b11d`	`ah`
`02:55.07`	`battini`	`girls are considered useless`
`02:55.07`	`coppice`	`the parents do want to know, so they can abort any girls`
`02:55.11`	`b11d`	`and if its a girl, they'd abort?`
`02:55.12`	`battini`	`if they know its going to be a girl`
`02:55.13`	`battini`	`they abort it`
`02:55.15`	`b11d`	`ahh`
`02:55.20`	`battini`	`you are only allowed 1 child`
`02:55.25`	`battini`	`or so`
`02:55.26`	`b11d`	`i see`
`02:55.27`	`battini`	`so yeah.`
`02:55.41`	`b11d`	`well.. i dont know how else you'd deal with 1.5 billion mouths to feed..`
`02:56.00`	`JT`	`massive culture change`
`02:56.12`	`JT`	`people need to learn that breeding is not necessarrily good`
`02:56.17`	`b11d`	`yeah well theres one thing to realize.. no matter how rich, or how poor.. fucking is free.`
`02:56.28`	`b11d`	`when people are down and out.. they need to do SOMETHING. :P`
`02:56.30`	`coppice`	`practicing breeding s good, though :-)`
`02:56.41`	`battini`	`b11d that depends on who its with`
`02:56.41`	`JT`	`yeah, simulating breeding is fine`
`02:56.42`	`battini`	`=P`
`02:56.46`	`b11d`	`heheh`
`02:56.47`	`JT`	`just keep simulating ;)`
`02:57.13`	`b11d`	`they dont have advanced concepts like "pulling out"`
`02:57.21`	`b11d`	`they steal our nuclear secrets, but not that..:P`
`02:57.39`	`JT`	`even more advanced: use a condom`
`02:57.49`	`coppice`	`pulling out is for quitters`
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`02:58.02`	`b11d`	`or guys who are "the man" because they only finish in the ass..`
`02:58.05`	`perd`	`real men punch their women in the gut 3 times a day`
`02:58.08`	`b11d`	`lol`
`02:58.57`	`b11d`	`<crickets>`
`02:59.20`	`BSDTech`	`ok the thirdlane interface kicks butt over the asterisk gui`
`02:59.37`	`BSDTech`	`and I am going to use it on my new sysems`
`02:59.56`	`rene-`	`OMG the turtles`
`02:59.57`	`JT`	`tell you what kicks the most butt?`
`02:59.58`	`JT`	`the cli`
`03:00.20`	`BSDTech`	`the cli is limited`
`03:00.22`	`rene-`	`pulling out is for weenies`
`03:00.56`	`rene-`	`indeed`
`03:00.59`	`BSDTech`	`freepbx would not work on a dom for the fact it needed mysql`
`03:01.02`	`JT`	`limited? lol, you can do everything in the cli`
`03:01.07`	`b11d`	`the cli is great`
`03:01.32`	`[F]`	`cli is limited? ha!`
`03:01.32`	`rene-`	`ninja can control ejaculation even have an orgasm with no ejaculation`
`03:01.35`	`BSDTech`	`its a pain to have to write bulk accounts when you can save time and do it in a gui`
`03:01.35`	`b11d`	`i dont take issue with GUI's... as long as whoever is running the system can do everything without depending on it..`
`03:01.52`	`b11d`	`dependance on a GUI is the problem..`
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`03:02.01`	`BSDTech`	`thirdlanes interfe justwrites to the fklat files`
`03:02.05`	`TheCops`	`Hi`
`03:02.11`	`BSDTech`	`and asterisk chugs along`
`03:02.18`	`BSDTech`	`Pig get out`
`03:02.20`	`TheCops`	`Someone tested the shared line feature in the 1.4?`
`03:02.26`	`[F]`	`does someone smell bacon?`
`03:02.41`	`BSDTech`	`who let the pork out of its pen`
`03:02.44`	`b11d`	`ITS THE COPS`
`03:02.47`	`b11d`	`RUN`
`03:02.59`	`b11d`	`"{`
`03:02.59`	`TheCops`	`:)`
`03:03.01`	`b11d`	`hee`
`03:03.02`	`BSDTech`	`here piggy piggy piggy.... Suieeeeeeee`
`03:03.03`	`b11d`	`heheh`
`03:03.10`	`b11d`	`oh wait yeah.. you're that corrupt cop.`
`03:03.17`	`b11d`	`lets go twist up a gagger and fire it up`
`03:03.46`	`b11d`	`BSDTech.. was that a Dazed & Confused quote?`
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`03:04.07`	`BSDTech`	`?`
`03:04.12`	`b11d`	`never mind`
`03:05.05`	`BSDTech`	`man writing dial plans is a pain`
`03:05.12`	`b11d`	`yeah`
`03:05.18`	`b11d`	`i just got finished dealing with a dialplan logic error`
`03:05.21`	`b11d`	`it was a nightmare`
`03:05.25`	`b11d`	`but i got'r ;)`
`03:05.34`	`BSDTech`	`cool`
`03:05.56`	`b11d`	`some people find it easier to break them up into indivudal files per context, and use #include's`
`03:06.13`	`b11d`	`my extensions.conf will pass 7000 lines.. im thinking of doing that.`
`03:06.14`	`BSDTech`	`its writting all the functions like *XX`
`03:06.21`	`b11d`	`oh yeah i hear that`
`03:06.28`	`b11d`	`thats more tedious than anything`
`03:06.32`	`BSDTech`	`and the functionality to go wi it`
`03:07.03`	`BSDTech`	`and the needed ros`
`03:07.11`	`BSDTech`	`and the needed macros`
`03:07.44`	`BSDTech`	`once done I plan to put it out there for all`
`03:07.45`	`De_Mon`	`will the meetme 'kick last user' kick you if your the last user?`
`03:08.07`	`BSDTech`	`it should`
`03:08.14`	`BSDTech`	`never used that function`
`03:08.39`	`b11d`	`yeah im surprised there is no archive of conf's on voip-info.org`
`03:08.51`	`b11d`	`or at least a "post your most convoluted macro or extension`
`03:09.00`	`b11d`	`and have a top 10 of the craziest things people have done :)`
`03:09.03`	`BSDTech`	`yeah`
`03:09.24`	`b11d`	`i want to his *89 and have my car washed by two midgets who are reporting the weather and making wakeup calls`
`03:10.19`	`b11d`	`brb`
`03:10.26`	`BSDTech`	`lol`
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`03:13.04`	`BSDTech`	`man the broke the search page on pastbin.ca`
`03:16.31`	`b11d`	`weak`
`03:16.37`	`b11d`	`pastebin.ca is useful`
`03:17.20`	`b11d`	`im really surprised google hasnt bought them, or added a similar service yet..`
`03:17.26`	`b11d`	`you could learn a lot by what people pastebin..`
`03:18.30`	`De_Mon`	`ya I rooted quite a few linux boxen back in the day just scraping pastebins`
`03:18.57`	`De_Mon`	`i, i mean I heard that that happened`
`03:19.06`	`b11d`	`lol`
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`03:21.49`	`b11d`	`.`
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`03:32.47`	`b11d`	`lol`
`03:32.49`	`b11d`	`this cracked me up`
`03:32.50`	`b11d`	`http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6384316154883494300&q=omid+djalili`
`03:35.12`	`littleball`	`hello, When you have an established Zap connection, its channel name will be in this format: Zap/channel-instance . What dles the "instance" mean?`
`03:36.11`	`b11d`	`hrm..`
`03:36.16`	`b11d`	`good question.. let me take a look`
`03:36.56`	`b11d`	`i dont see`
`03:37.01`	`b11d`	`i get zap/span-channel`
`03:39.30`	`BSDTech`	`?`
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`03:40.10`	`wiljacket`	`I get a value like Zap/1-1 for FXO card 1, port1`
`03:40.50`	`b11d`	`wiljacket.. got that stuff straightend out.. :P`
`03:40.55`	`b11d`	`everythings cool now`
`03:41.03`	`wiljacket`	`oh nice, looked like you were close`
`03:41.03`	`b11d`	`thanks again`
`03:41.07`	`wiljacket`	`np`
`03:42.33`	`b11d`	`i've got to go cut some analog lines over to my vg224.. bbl..`
`03:44.02`	`b11d`	`lol`
`03:44.03`	`b11d`	`http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7822f7af06&p=1`
`03:44.10`	`b11d`	`this may upset some people :)`
`03:44.15`	`b11d`	`i found it humorous`
`03:45.57`	`perd`	`haha`
`03:46.23`	`perd`	`so obvious`
`03:46.26`	`b11d`	`yeah`
`03:48.24`	`drray`	`poor saddam, wants so hard to be another idi amin`
`03:49.26`	`b11d`	`yeah those days are over`
`03:49.38`	`b11d`	`its really no different then bush wanting to be reagan`
`03:49.58`	`perd`	`yeah well, he'll never have hollywood backing him`
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`03:50.36`	`b11d`	`haha`
`03:55.38`	`Chicago`	`Are there BSD people here? I need to install on OpenBSD and don't know what to do about TTY9 not existing on openbsd.`
`03:56.04`	`b11d`	`hrm`
`03:56.08`	`b11d`	`edit /etc/ttys`
`03:56.12`	`b11d`	`add tty9`
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`03:56.49`	`Chicago`	`blld: I edited /etc/ttys and tried changing. http://mailman.theapt.org/pipermail/openbsd-newbies/2006-April/002923.html`
`03:56.58`	`Chicago`	`oopls`
`03:57.04`	`Chicago`	`wrong copy+paste.`
`03:57.13`	`Chicago`	`I edited this in /etc/ttys ttyC8 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" vt220 off secure`
`03:57.28`	`b11d`	`umm.. dont you want tty08`
`03:57.31`	`b11d`	`go down farther..`
`03:57.50`	`b11d`	`oh wait.. i guess not..`
`03:57.52`	`b11d`	`hrm..`
`03:57.55`	`Chicago`	`blld: I do see those down further. I figured I wanted the top ones.`
`03:58.01`	`b11d`	`i have ttyC0-9`
`03:58.18`	`Chicago`	`I do too... but the ttyc8 and ttyc9 were "off"`
`03:58.21`	`b11d`	`try changing "off" ot "on" ?`
`03:58.23`	`b11d`	`ot = to`
`03:58.27`	`Chicago`	`I turned them on... and tried again, but no dice.`
`03:58.30`	`b11d`	`hrmm..`
`03:58.40`	`b11d`	`I guess i'd ask in #openbsd`
`03:58.46`	`Chicago`	`I will.`
`03:58.50`	`b11d`	`let me know eh :)`
`03:58.52`	`Chicago`	`I'm idle there also.`
`03:58.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`~seen WAudette`
`03:59.10`	`jbot`	`waudette is currently on #asterisk (1d 4h 48m 20s). Has said a total of 103 messages. Is idling for 7h 24m 32s, last said: 'Corydon76-home: I have to head out for a bit. I'll PM you w/ my contact information.'.`
`03:59.22`	`b11d`	`~seen b11d`
`03:59.24`	`jbot`	`b11d is currently on #asterisk (3d 13h 39m 22s). Has said a total of 569 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen b11d'.`
`03:59.30`	`b11d`	`569.. i yap too much`
`03:59.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`yap yap yap`
`03:59.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`He never PMed me`
`04:00.15`	`b11d`	`thats so like him`
`04:00.16`	`b11d`	`:)`
`04:00.22`	`Corydon76-home`	`So I have the code he wanted, but I don't know how to get in touch`
`04:00.43`	`b11d`	`eh.. put it up somewhere, drop him a /msg and go to bed..`
`04:01.04`	`b11d`	`I've got to go cut over some analog lines.. for real this time.. bbl`
`04:02.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yep, I did put it up somewhere already`
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`04:10.23`	`Chicago`	`While I'm at it... asking about howto setup Asterisk on the OpenBSD... which terminal type gives the most information on the Asterisk console? The OpenBSD default is vt220... and I can get some color using pcvt25 on other applications.`
`04:13.14`	`De_Mon`	`uhh wtf`
`04:13.30`	`De_Mon`	`if I to !date I get Sat Jan 13 23:13:07 EST 2007`
`04:13.43`	`De_Mon`	`if I dial SayUnixTime() I get Sun Jan 14 4 something am`
`04:14.25`	`Chicago`	`De_Mon: The UTC time right now should be about Jan 14th at 4:13am`
`04:15.34`	`De_Mon`	`ya but its supposed to default to the tz of the localcomputer`
`04:15.41`	`De_Mon`	`which is EST according to date`
`04:15.42`	`CunningPike`	`De_Mon: You should check out /var/log/messages sometime....... on RHEL at least, there is a mix of local and UTC times depending on which service is doing the logging`
`04:15.57`	`De_Mon`	`glad Im not using rhel`
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`04:15.57`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ`
`04:16.54`	`MooingLemur`	`my GXP-2000 doesn't like the dry air`
`04:16.54`	`file`	`yay russellb`
`04:16.54`	`russellb`	`file: :)`
`04:16.59`	`MooingLemur`	`I've been shocking everything I touch, so it reboots frequently because of that`
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`04:17.47`	`De_Mon`	`CunningPike syslog for asterisk is recording in the correct tz`
`04:18.29`	`De_Mon`	`chanspy starts wigging out AND the tz info goes bonkers on the same day.`
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`04:19.52`	`De_Mon`	`hrm the wiki says it never worked correctly (strftime) wonder if unixsaytime has the same little note`
`04:19.54`	`KuJaX`	`If I am not running any digium cards, or any PCI cards at that, do I need libpri and zaptel?`
`04:20.11`	`De_Mon`	`KuJaX you need a timing device for some applications like meetme`
`04:20.24`	`MooingLemur`	`zaptel may help for a timer source`
`04:20.24`	`De_Mon`	`ala zaptel`
`04:23.10`	`KuJaX`	`so probably better safe than sorry (better to install it and probably not use it)`
`04:23.23`	`MooingLemur`	`(modprobe ztdummy)`
`04:25.21`	`KuJaX`	`What about Libpri?`
`04:25.42`	`CunningPike`	`KuJaX: You only need libpri if you are connecting to a PRI`
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`04:27.57`	`KuJaX`	`When I run 'make install' within asterisk 1.4.0 folder, it says "The configure script must be executed before running 'make'.`
`04:28.12`	`KuJaX`	`however, when I try to run 'make config' it says 'we could not install init scripts for your operating system' .... which is Cent OS 4.4`
`04:30.31`	`KuJaX`	`Any suggestions?`
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`04:34.08`	`Qwell`	`Does CentOS not have a /etc/redhat-release?`
`04:35.17`	`De_Mon`	`anyone with a current asterisk running able to test if sayunixtime or the strftime function correctly use the current system timezime as default?`
`04:35.25`	`KuJaX`	`./etc/redhat-release is CentOS release 4.4 (Final)`
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`04:36.23`	`Mad\|Cow`	`I know I shouldnt be asking about SER in here, but I was hoping someone might have come across this. I have SER configured and running. I have a soft phone and hard phone (both configured to use the same username and password). The softphone registers just fine, but the hard phone will not register. It complains "pre_auth(): Credentials with given realm not found" in my SER debug output. Anyone have any ideas?`
`04:38.59`	`De_Mon`	`privoxy start`
`04:39.01`	`De_Mon`	`doh`
`04:40.26`	`CunningPike`	`KuJaX: Try 'sudo ./configure'`
`04:41.40`	`CunningPike`	`KuJaX: 'make config' installs init scripts (which CentOS doesn't use) - it doesn't run the configure script necessary for running make`
`04:46.41`	`*** join/#asterisk QuickOrbit (n=Christop@12-214-191-64.client.mchsi.com)`
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`04:51.13`	`Grnd-Wire`	`So I am seeing my TB2 install communicating with three different IP addresses to port 123/UDP - Is there a reason for this? Is this Asterisk generating the traffic (which is why I'm asking here), or is it something to do with TrixBox/FreePBX (which means I won't ask anymore here :) )`
`04:52.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`Port 123 is network time`
`04:52.32`	`De_Mon`	`what is TB2?`
`04:52.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`so it's synchronizing clocks`
`04:52.51`	`Qwell`	`De_Mon: trixbox 2?`
`04:52.53`	`Qwell`	`I guess`
`04:52.54`	`Grnd-Wire`	`OH RIGHT!!`
`04:52.56`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Thanks..`
`04:53.04`	`*** join/#asterisk QuickOrbit (n=Christop@12-214-191-64.client.mchsi.com)`
`04:53.11`	`Qwell`	`QuickOrbit: having connection troubles?`
`04:53.26`	`QuickOrbit`	`client issues`
`04:53.39`	`De_Mon`	`oh, that sounds like a good guess`
`04:53.56`	`Qwell`	`KuJaX: I'm pretty sure that was all make config checked for.. I'll double-check though`
`04:54.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`De_Mon: someone guessed?`
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`04:55.01`	`bkruse_home`	`russellb: zomgz`
`04:55.14`	`russellb`	`bkruse_home: zomgz, irc in the same room`
`04:55.32`	`Qwell`	`KuJaX: hmm, it isn't picking up OSARCH as linux-gnu`
`04:55.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`russellb: living with bkruse now?`
`04:56.42`	`Qwell`	`hmm, extended deja vu`
`04:57.42`	`bkruse_home`	`Corydon76-home: I am at kp's`
`04:57.44`	`russellb`	`Corydon76-home: heh, nope, just hanging out at the same place right now`
`04:57.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`ah...`
`04:59.58`	`Qwell`	`russellb: So...excited to be back?`
`05:00.10`	`russellb`	`Qwell: too tired to feel anything tonight`
`05:00.15`	`Qwell`	`heh, I bet`
`05:01.04`	`QuickOrbit`	`russellb: who is this poor sap that you got to help you move?`
`05:03.13`	`russellb`	`addicted ... to ... internet ...`
`05:03.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`10 hours?`
`05:03.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`Who sleeps for 10 hours?`
`05:03.54`	`Qwell`	`somebody who just drove for 8 hours, is my guess :p`
`05:04.03`	`russellb`	`well, that was 36 million microseconds ... which is is only 36 seconds`
`05:04.07`	`russellb`	`that doesn't even make sense`
`05:04.12`	`russellb`	`i can't wait to sleep 36 seconds? wtf`
`05:04.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`Oh, right`
`05:04.32`	`b11d`	`this is the 1980's man.. no time for sleep`
`05:04.34`	`Qwell`	`36 seconds? well...take what you can get`
`05:04.56`	`Qwell`	`I bet if you slept 36 seconds every like...2 minutes...`
`05:05.14`	`Qwell`	`it'd be like polyphasic sleep, but uber-extreme`
`05:05.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`Then you'd be narcoleptic`
`05:08.01`	`QuickOrbit`	`question, if this robot dude has a human heart, how could he go outside the space ship earlier in the movie?`
`05:08.14`	`russellb`	`QuickOrbit: wrong window there buddy.`
`05:08.37`	`QuickOrbit`	`dont you tell me what window is the wrong window`
`05:09.03`	`russellb`	`anyway, magic`
`05:09.42`	`QuickOrbit`	`it was a question for the asterisk community. not that i have to justify my actions to you.`
`05:10.05`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ooooo... sassing the release manager...`
`05:10.28`	`russellb`	`don't lie ... you meant to type that in a private message ...`
`05:10.41`	`russellb`	`Corydon76-home: he's my bitch, don't worry`
`05:11.04`	`QuickOrbit`	`hahahaha`
`05:11.54`	`QuickOrbit`	`i certainly did not, there is no way that you could of been able to answer such a complex quesiton neway`
`05:11.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`russellb: I never knew you'd been to prison... ;-)`
`05:12.41`	`russellb`	`ha, nope`
`05:13.14`	`russellb`	`QuickOrbit: check wikipedia`
`05:14.12`	`bkruse_home`	`man starwars`
`05:14.30`	`CunningPike`	`Ask jbot - he knows everything`
`05:14.47`	`QuickOrbit`	`:)`
`05:14.53`	`russellb`	`~thwack Qwell`
`05:14.54`	`jbot`	`ACTION beats Qwell on the foot with a iMac`
`05:15.10`	`Qwell`	`~lart russellb`
`05:15.57`	`russellb`	`~thwart Qwell`
`05:16.04`	`bkruse_home`	`~humanheartspace`
`05:16.05`	`jbot`	`i guess humanheartspace is a fluke in star wars, and is completely impossible`
`05:16.05`	`russellb`	`or did i make that one up :/`
`05:16.06`	`Qwell`	`thwart?`
`05:16.09`	`russellb`	`lol`
`05:16.17`	`Qwell`	`bkruse_home: pwned!`
`05:16.40`	`bkruse_home`	`;]`
`05:16.50`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot knows all`
`05:16.51`	`jbot`	`and don't you forget it`
`05:17.57`	`russellb`	`you told .... told who what?`
`05:17.58`	`bkruse_home`	`~karma QuickOrbit`
`05:17.58`	`jbot`	`quickorbit has neutral karma`
`05:17.59`	`bkruse_home`	`gg`
`05:18.20`	`russellb`	`bkruse_home: gotta go?`
`05:18.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`He told the warden how he's your bitch`
`05:18.44`	`bkruse_home`	`^_^`
`05:18.54`	`bkruse_home`	`russellb: gg`
`05:19.48`	`bkruse_home`	`~gg`
`05:19.49`	`jbot`	`i guess gg is at aa`
`05:23.45`	`codefreeze`	`~karma codefreeze`
`05:23.45`	`jbot`	`codefreeze has neutral karma`
`05:24.28`	`codefreeze`	`jbot: what exactly all can you do?`
`05:25.12`	`codefreeze`	`jbot, reveal your inner secrets!`
`05:25.14`	`shmaltz`	`~karma shmaltz`
`05:25.14`	`jbot`	`shmaltz has neutral karma`
`05:25.26`	`bkruse_home`	`God, i started a karma revolution, lame`
`05:25.29`	`shmaltz`	`~karma russellb`
`05:25.29`	`jbot`	`russellb has neutral karma`
`05:25.31`	`b11d`	`goodnight lads`
`05:25.36`	`bkruse_home`	`everyones like, hey, i wonder if people like me!`
`05:25.44`	`Qwell`	`bkruse_home++`
`05:25.48`	`russellb`	`jbot: /wi3`
`05:25.50`	`russellb`	`errr`
`05:25.51`	`russellb`	`oops.`
`05:26.05`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: yay!`
`05:26.09`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell++`
`05:26.09`	`codefreeze`	`jbot: talk to me!`
`05:26.21`	`bkruse_home`	`~codefreeze`
`05:26.22`	`jbot`	`hmm... codefreeze is the most wonderful guy you'd ever like to meet!, or an alias for Steve Murphy`
`05:26.24`	`Qwell`	`karma jbot`
`05:26.27`	`Qwell`	`~karma jbot`
`05:26.27`	`jbot`	`jbot has karma of 7`
`05:26.31`	ez`	`i would like test a internet adsl link quality . what tool is avaible to do it ? i already test it using visualroute , ping ... whats the best way to know quality my internet link ???`
`05:26.32`	`Qwell`	`jbot--`
`05:26.47`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: you going to crash jbot again :[`
`05:26.51`	`Qwell`	`:D`
`05:26.51`	`bkruse_home`	`~fxo`
`05:26.53`	`jbot`	`foreign exchange office - type of port you need to connect a POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line from your telco to a pbx http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=fxsvfxo`
`05:26.53`	`bkruse_home`	`:X`
`05:26.55`	`bkruse_home`	`nice.`
`05:27.01`	`Qwell`	`~recurse`
`05:27.02`	`jbot`	`PicoBot: recurse`
`05:27.15`	`russellb`	`~panic`
`05:27.17`	`jbot`	`somebody please DO something!`
`05:27.19`	`Qwell`	`jbot: recurse is <reply> ~recurse`
`05:27.20`	`jbot`	`...but recurse is already something else...`
`05:27.25`	`Qwell`	`jbot: no, recurse is <reply> ~recurse`
`05:27.26`	`jbot`	`Qwell: okay`
`05:27.29`	`Qwell`	`~recurse`
`05:27.30`	`jbot`	`~recurse`
`05:27.30`	`EyeCue`	`laf, infobot for the loss :~(`
`05:27.36`	`Qwell`	`:p`
`05:27.38`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: nice`
`05:27.48`	`shmaltz`	`~sleep`
`05:27.50`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine.`
`05:27.58`	`shmaltz`	`~sex`
`05:28.00`	`jbot`	`updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/`
`05:28.00`	`russellb`	`~stfu`
`05:28.02`	`jbot`	`stfu is, like, Shut the F*** Up!, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/stfu-noob.jpg. Sucks To Feel U, or or http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/STFU_cup_Soldier.jpg`
`05:28.06`	`shmaltz`	`~pregnant`
`05:28.08`	`jbot`	`Yes, shmaltz, and it's your child.`
`05:28.13`	`shmaltz`	`~lol`
`05:28.14`	`jbot`	`somebody said lol was stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead.`
`05:28.27`	`Qwell`	`wtf, I call BS`
`05:29.27`	`codefreeze`	`~Qwell`
`05:29.29`	`jbot`	`i heard qwell is a patented liquid formula that contains three plant-based bio-active agents that work together in a perfectly balanced combination. These agents act synergistically to boost your good cholesterol and slash the bad.`
`05:29.48`	`Qwell`	`synergistically...oh yeah`
`05:30.02`	`bkruse_home`	`nice.`
`05:30.05`	`russellb`	`~russell`
`05:30.06`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, russell is a 1337 program`
`05:30.06`	`codefreeze`	`Qwell: have you been teaching jbot, or something?`
`05:30.26`	`*** join/#asterisk fnordus (n=dnall@24.85.128.203)`
`05:30.27`	`QuickOrbit`	`~QuickOrbit`
`05:30.46`	`QuickOrbit`	`:-\`
`05:31.02`	`Qwell`	`jbot: QuickOrbit is <reply> QuickOrbit orbits...quickly...`
`05:31.04`	`jbot`	`okay, Qwell`
`05:31.24`	`russellb`	`~QuickOrbit`
`05:31.25`	`jbot`	`QuickOrbit orbits...quickly...`
`05:31.40`	`russellb`	`jbot: forget QuickOrbit`
`05:31.40`	`jbot`	`russellb: i forgot quickorbit`
`05:31.50`	`bkruse_home`	`:P`
`05:31.55`	`russellb`	`jbot: QuickOrbit is <reply> QuickOrbit orbits...quickly...and drinks yoohoo`
`05:31.56`	`jbot`	`okay, russellb`
`05:32.12`	`Qwell`	`russellb: "no, blah is" works quicker`
`05:32.15`	`bkruse_home`	`QuickOrbit is a 40' yoohoo drinker`
`05:32.24`	`codefreeze`	`~QuickOrbit`
`05:32.25`	`jbot`	`QuickOrbit orbits...quickly...and drinks yoohoo`
`05:32.41`	`Qwell`	`~botabuse`
`05:32.42`	`jbot`	`i heard botabuse is fun`
`05:32.48`	`QuickOrbit`	`sweet`
`05:33.01`	`QuickOrbit`	`i feel ... tepid`
`05:33.05`	`bkruse_home`	`i feel sleepy`
`05:34.29`	`*** part/#asterisk bkruse_home (n=kruz@12-214-191-64.client.mchsi.com)`
`05:35.33`	`CunningPike`	ez`: www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
`05:37.14`	`irasnyd`	`hello. I'm looking for some documentation so I can figure out the following: how can I make asterisk call any sip phone (for example: sip:613@fwd.pulver.com) without setting up a special connection to that network beforehand.`
`05:38.17`	`*** join/#asterisk apardo (n=apardo@87.217.145.224)`
`05:38.53`	`codefreeze`	`jbot, is confession good for the soul?`
`05:39.16`	`*** join/#asterisk Ritalin2 (n=dave@c-68-47-199-178.hsd1.tn.comcast.net)`
`05:40.56`	`brookshire`	`blah`
`05:41.03`	`russellb`	`brookshire: i know the truth`
`05:41.18`	`brookshire`	`russellb: are you hear yet?`
`05:41.22`	`brookshire`	`here`
`05:41.22`	`russellb`	`yes i am`
`05:41.23`	`brookshire`	`also`
`05:41.25`	`brookshire`	`yay!`
`05:41.27`	`brookshire`	`beer?`
`05:41.29`	`QuickOrbit`	`~42`
`05:41.30`	`jbot`	`well, 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything`
`05:41.30`	`russellb`	`and brandon told me how you gave him my computer`
`05:41.35`	`russellb`	`brookshire: yes, i have beer :-p`
`05:41.40`	`brookshire`	`lol..`
`05:41.43`	`brookshire`	`you're getting one soon`
`05:41.47`	`brookshire`	`we had to order more`
`05:41.52`	`brookshire`	`they needed it for testing`
`05:41.54`	`QuickOrbit`	`~41`
`05:42.09`	`brookshire`	`russellb: no.. go out to get beer :)`
`05:42.17`	`russellb`	`brookshire: too tired ....`
`05:42.19`	`brookshire`	`at the bar`
`05:42.22`	`brookshire`	`blah.. whatever`
`05:42.29`	`brookshire`	`if you were tired, you wouldn't be on irc`
`05:42.30`	`russellb`	`i mean, sure, see you in a few minutes`
`05:42.31`	`Qwell`	`brookshire: Crossroads reopened last night, fyi`
`05:42.35`	`QuickOrbit`	`jbot: 41 is <reply> 41 is 42-1`
`05:42.37`	`jbot`	`okay, QuickOrbit`
`05:42.39`	`brookshire`	`Qwell: okay.. and?`
`05:42.44`	`Qwell`	`just fyi :P`
`05:42.48`	`QuickOrbit`	`~41`
`05:42.50`	`jbot`	`41 is 42-1`
`05:42.54`	`brookshire`	`~russell`
`05:42.56`	`jbot`	`methinks russell is a n00b`
`05:42.58`	`Strom_C`	`hi`
`05:43.04`	`russellb`	`jbot: no, russell is l33t`
`05:43.06`	`jbot`	`okay, russellb`
`05:43.25`	`QuickOrbit`	`~russell`
`05:43.27`	`jbot`	`methinks russell is l33t`
`05:43.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: 41 is also prime`
`05:43.31`	`jbot`	`Corydon76-home: okay`
`05:43.31`	`QuickOrbit`	`LIES!`
`05:44.14`	`russellb`	`jbot: 41 is also 40 / 2 + 24 - 3.5 + .5`
`05:44.15`	`jbot`	`okay, russellb`
`05:44.21`	`Strom_C`	`~41`
`05:44.23`	`jbot`	`41 is 42-1, or prime, or 40 / 2 + 24 - 3.5 + .5`
`05:44.54`	`x86`	`jbot: 41 is also the IPv6 protocol number`
`05:44.56`	`jbot`	`x86: okay`
`05:45.01`	`Qwell`	`(40 / 2) + (24 - (3.5 + .5)) ?`
`05:45.18`	`russellb`	`Qwell: order of operations takes care of it ...`
`05:45.23`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`05:45.28`	`QuickOrbit`	`jbot: 41 is also 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1`
`05:45.29`	`jbot`	`QuickOrbit: okay`
`05:45.38`	`russellb`	`jbot: 41 is also sqrt(1681)`
`05:45.39`	`jbot`	`okay, russellb`
`05:45.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`See your friendly neighborhood precedence chart`
`05:45.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`~41`
`05:45.51`	`jbot`	`41 is 42-1, or prime, or 40 / 2 + 24 - 3.5 + .5, or the IPv6 protocol number, or 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, or sqrt(1681)`
`05:46.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`Someone is bored`
`05:46.17`	`x86`	`jbot: 41 is also 40+1`
`05:46.18`	`jbot`	`x86: okay`
`05:46.24`	`Qwell`	`jbot: 41 is also the Graphics port`
`05:46.26`	`jbot`	`Qwell: okay`
`05:46.33`	`brookshire`	`bah`
`05:46.41`	`Strom_C`	`jbot: 41 is also a number`
`05:46.42`	`jbot`	`Strom_C: okay`
`05:46.42`	`x86`	`jbot: 41 is also the number of times I got laid yesterday snicker`
`05:46.44`	`jbot`	`okay, x86`
`05:46.46`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: 41 is also the hexadecimal ASCII for 'A'`
`05:46.48`	`jbot`	`okay, Corydon76-home`
`05:46.48`	`brookshire`	`they have actions turned off`
`05:47.09`	`brookshire`	`~purr`
`05:47.11`	`jbot`	`ACTION purrs purrs purrs`
`05:47.14`	`x86`	`~41`
`05:47.15`	`jbot`	`41 is 42-1, or prime, or 40 / 2 + 24 - 3.5 + .5, or the IPv6 protocol number, or 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, or sqrt(1681), or 40+1, or the Graphics port, or a number, or the number of times I got laid yesterday snicker, or the hexadecimal ASCII for 'A'`
`05:47.40`	`Thazza`	`jbot: 41 is also (20 * 2) + 1`
`05:47.42`	`jbot`	`okay, Thazza`
`05:47.42`	`russellb`	`jbot: 41 is also Emperor Guangwu of the Han Dynasty deposes his wife, Guo Shentong, as empress, and creates his consort Yin Lihua empress in her place`
`05:47.43`	`jbot`	`that's too long, russellb`
`05:47.43`	`Qwell`	`~42`
`05:47.45`	`jbot`	`hmm... 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything`
`05:47.55`	`russellb`	`crap, it was supposed to be 41 was the year that ....`
`05:48.12`	`QuickOrbit`	`pwnd`
`05:48.27`	`Qwell`	`jbot: 41 is also see 42`
`05:48.29`	`jbot`	`Qwell: okay`
`05:48.37`	`Qwell`	`~41`
`05:48.40`	`jbot`	`41 is 42-1, or prime, or 40 / 2 + 24 - 3.5 + .5, or the IPv6 protocol number, or 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, or sqrt(1681), or 40+1, or the Graphics port, or a number, or the number of times I got laid yesterday snicker, or the hexadecimal ASCII for 'A', or (20 * 2) + 1, or see 42`
`05:48.45`	`Qwell`	`damn`
`05:48.46`	`brookshire`	`forget 41`
`05:48.50`	`brookshire`	`~forget 41`
`05:48.53`	`russellb`	`jbot: 41 is also hex for 65`
`05:48.54`	`jbot`	`russellb: okay`
`05:49.05`	`Qwell`	`41++`
`05:49.16`	`brookshire`	`jbot: 41 <action> you guys can suck it`
`05:49.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: 41 is also octal for 33`
`05:49.19`	`jbot`	`okay, Corydon76-home`
`05:49.22`	`brookshire`	`~41`
`05:49.24`	`jbot`	`41 is 42-1, or prime, or 40 / 2 + 24 - 3.5 + .5, or the IPv6 protocol number, or 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, or sqrt(1681), or 40+1, or the Graphics port, or a number, or the number of times I got laid yesterday snicker, or the hexadecimal ASCII for 'A', or (20 * 2) + 1, or see 42, or hex for 65, or octal for 33`
`05:49.26`	`Thazza`	`jbot: 41 is Thazza's Brian size in mm`
`05:49.27`	`jbot`	`...but 41 is already something else...`
`05:49.35`	`Thazza`	`jbot: 41 is also Thazza's Brian size in mm`
`05:49.36`	`jbot`	`okay, Thazza`
`05:49.40`	`Thazza`	`jbot: 41 is also Thazza's Brain size in mm`
`05:49.42`	`jbot`	`Thazza: okay`
`05:49.46`	`Thazza`	`damn typos`
`05:49.49`	`Qwell`	`now you broke it`
`05:49.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`Your Brian size?`
`05:49.54`	`CunningPike`	`Must be that brian of yours`
`05:49.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`~41`
`05:49.56`	`jbot`	`41 is 42-1, or prime, or 40 / 2 + 24 - 3.5 + .5, or the IPv6 protocol number, or 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, or sqrt(1681), or 40+1, or the Graphics port, or a number, or the number of times I got laid yesterday snicker, or the hexadecimal ASCII for 'A', or (20 * 2) + 1, or see 42, or hex for 65, or octal ...`
`05:50.03`	`Qwell`	`weird`
`05:50.04`	`russellb`	`aw`
`05:50.09`	`Qwell`	`it actually got shorter`
`05:50.14`	`x86`	`Corydon76-home: methinks that could be what he named his, err, "member"`
`05:50.24`	`codefreeze`	`jbot: status?`
`05:50.29`	`Thazza`	`pmsl @ x86`
`05:50.33`	`*** part/#asterisk Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
`05:50.33`	`*** join/#asterisk Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
`05:50.41`	`QuickOrbit`	`jbot: status is 41`
`05:50.42`	`jbot`	`okay, QuickOrbit`
`05:50.43`	`codefreeze`	`~status`
`05:50.43`	`jbot`	`Since Mon Jan 8 04:50:05 2007, there have been 133 modifications, 763 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 595 commands. I have been awake for 6d 1h 38s this session, and currently reference 112367 factoids. I'm using about 18876 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 24113.84/1527.26 child 0.04/0.01`
`05:50.43`	`x86`	`Thazza: spk engrish plz kthx`
`05:50.43`	`brookshire`	`jbot: no 41 is a lame number`
`05:50.45`	`jbot`	`brookshire: okay`
`05:50.45`	`Corydon76-home`	`x86: straight guys name their penises?`
`05:50.50`	`*** join/#asterisk paavum (n=dorphals@pcsp163-73.supercabletv.net.co)`
`05:50.57`	`x86`	`Corydon76-home: i named mine "mega man"`
`05:51.08`	`paavum`	`Hi ... is there any patch around to make a Nextone speak with *`
`05:51.14`	`brookshire`	`Corydon76-home: only to compensate`
`05:51.24`	`*** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=manxpowe@dpc67142183150.direcpc.com)`
`05:51.27`	`paavum`	`nextone sends me sip data as: usr:dialstring@host`
`05:51.34`	`QuickOrbit`	`~status`
`05:51.35`	`jbot`	`Since Mon Jan 8 04:50:05 2007, there have been 134 modifications, 763 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 595 commands. I have been awake for 6d 1h 1m 29s this session, and currently reference 112367 factoids. I'm using about 18876 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 24117.95/1528.28 child 0.04/0.01`
`05:51.47`	`Thazza`	`~sigh`
`05:51.48`	`jbot`	`sigh`
`05:51.59`	`codefreeze`	`~bs`
`05:52.00`	`jbot`	`bs is probably Banal Superficiality. So be smart: /ignore bs.`
`05:52.04`	`paavum`	`as far as I know asterisk recieves it as: usr:pass@host/string`
`05:52.20`	`ManxPower`	`There's nothing wrong with playing with the bot, but you should do it in private and wash your hands after.`
`05:52.34`	`Thazza`	`lol`
`05:52.43`	`russellb`	`~washme`
`05:52.46`	`Thazza`	`~sex`
`05:52.47`	`jbot`	`updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/`
`05:54.19`	`Qwell`	`~bed`
`05:54.21`	`jbot`	`it has been said that bed is a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower`
`05:54.25`	`QuickOrbit`	`i say again, poor yoda`
`05:54.30`	`Qwell`	`~shower`
`05:54.31`	`jbot`	`a shower is what you clearly need, qwell`
`05:54.39`	`Qwell`	`clearly`
`05:55.05`	`Ritalin2`	`anyone used one of the analog Digium cards?`
`05:55.35`	`Strom_C`	`no, no one has ever used one in the history of the universe. they all get immediately fed to the lions.`
`05:55.58`	`Ritalin2`	`stick the implied part [anyone here, that is paying attention] in there`
`05:56.17`	`codefreeze`	`ebonify Jack and Jill ran up the hill to fetch a pail of water.`
`05:56.18`	`Strom_C`	`Ritalin2, I have several TDM400 cards`
`05:57.04`	`Ritalin2`	`Storm_C: I have one now and only have VoIP. the FXS works beautifully. Before I was VoIP only I was using a Sipura 3k to convert over... but on it going from FXO->FXS was terrible. how is it on the TDM400 ?`
`05:57.14`	`ManxPower`	`I do not like the TDM400P cards. Never had good luck with them. Others have had much better expeirences`
`05:57.29`	`Ritalin2`	`I don't have an FXO daughtercard for this yet but am going to set up a system for a friend of mine. was curious how well they worked before i purchased it`
`05:57.34`	`ManxPower`	`When I want analog I use a T-1 card and a channel bank`
`05:57.49`	`Strom_C`	`Ritalin2, how long is the analog loop you're going to plug it into?`
`05:58.01`	`Ritalin2`	`he only needs about 3 lines. what channel bank would you suggest ManxPower?`
`05:58.19`	`Ritalin2`	`Storm_C from the CO ?`
`05:58.30`	`ManxPower`	`Ritalin2: for home use, just put up with any issues with the TDM400P cards.`
`05:58.30`	`Strom_C`	`yes from the CO`
`05:58.35`	`Strom_C`	`also, my name is not Storm`
`05:58.45`	`Ritalin2`	`oh sorry I'm drunk. Strom`
`05:59.01`	`ManxPower`	`In a business climate where they talk about "fireing that damn consultant" if the phones are not reliable -- well go with an Adtran Total Access 750 or 850`
`05:59.07`	`Ritalin2`	`not that it would matter. I can't read very well anyway`
`05:59.26`	`Ritalin2`	`it's a business enviroment. but he's a friend`
`06:00.27`	`ManxPower`	`MANY MANY people have no problems with the TDM400P cards. The problems I have had only happen after 4 - 6 weeks of uptime on lightly loaded systems, 7 days on heavier loaded systems. I've never been able to reproduce the problem in a non-production enviroment, so support was not able to do much.`
`06:00.35`	`Ritalin2`	`echo and poor volume was a real problem with the Sipura. in a business enviroment that'd never last 2 seconds so i'm trying to figure out the best route`
`06:00.35`	`codefreeze`	`~ebonify Jack and Jill ran up the hill to fetch a pail of water.`
`06:01.01`	`Ritalin2`	`what type of problems where you having?`
`06:01.22`	`Strom_C`	`Ritalin2, please answer my question about loop length`
`06:02.01`	`ManxPower`	`Ritalin2: ports stopped responding`
`06:02.02`	`Ritalin2`	`Strom_C: I don't have any idea.`
`06:02.24`	`file`	`codefreeze!`
`06:02.36`	`ManxPower`	`Ritalin2: can you get DSL? If so, you are less than about 16,000 ft from the CO`
`06:02.47`	`codefreeze`	`file!`
`06:02.53`	`Ritalin2`	`hrm... let me see.`
`06:03.02`	`Strom_C`	`Ritalin2, who is your telephone company and which city do you live in?`
`06:03.29`	`codefreeze`	`factoid codefreeze`
`06:04.02`	`Ritalin2`	`lets try dslreports`
`06:04.10`	`codefreeze`	`~factoid codefreeze`
`06:04.40`	`Ritalin2`	`I live in Kingston, TN and my phone company is Teliax. but you want to know the bellsouth is the local POTS dealer. but he lives in Lenoir City and i dont know who his provider is`
`06:05.06`	`Ritalin2`	`dslreports has no estimates for loop length`
`06:06.20`	`codefreeze`	`~topkarma`
`06:06.22`	`fetcher`	`TDM400P FXO's should perform at least as well as an X100P "Wildcard" FXO, no?`
`06:06.57`	`Ritalin2`	`CO LNCYTNMA (CLLI code)`
`06:06.58`	`Ritalin2`	`Forum LNCYTNMA: Read [1]`
`06:06.58`	`Ritalin2`	`Telco: BELLSOUTH TELECOMM INC - TN`
`06:06.58`	`Ritalin2`	`Address: 315 BROADWAY`
`06:07.30`	`Ritalin2`	`his shop is 117 broadway. but it does say if it's east or west so... anywhere between 2 and 4 blocks. should be pretty short`
`06:07.51`	`Strom_C`	`ok, that's a short loop`
`06:07.57`	`Strom_C`	`you should be fine with the tdm400`
`06:08.17`	`Ritalin2`	`I'd just hate to have him spend $400 on something and decide it wasn't going to work`
`06:09.36`	`Ritalin2`	`but something <$1k would be nice`
`06:11.00`	`CunningPike`	`jbot, are you OK?`
`06:11.32`	`codefreeze`	`~time`
`06:11.33`	`jbot`	`You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.01.14 6:11:33 GMT)`
`06:11.48`	`codefreeze`	`~time`
`06:11.50`	`jbot`	`You are educated stupid and therefore too dumb to understand nature's perfect time cube! (2007.01.14 6:11:50 GMT)`
`06:12.15`	`codefreeze`	`Well, he's still alive. And even knows the time!`
`06:12.30`	`codefreeze`	`~abuse file`
`06:12.31`	`jbot`	`ACTION smacks file across the face. "Take that, sucker!"`
`06:12.48`	`codefreeze`	`Yep, it's working.`
`06:12.58`	`file`	`eep`
`06:13.42`	`codefreeze`	`somebody needs to provide a "compliment" plugin for jbot, that will give interesting compliments to whomever.`
`06:13.59`	`ManxPower`	`bots should be seen and not heard -- like children`
`06:14.39`	`codefreeze`	`ManxPower: ...? I can only read it, therefore it's "seen", and not heard? ;)`
`06:15.00`	`Ritalin2`	`ManxPower: do you know why they make kids so cute?`
`06:16.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's a little too soon after the Missouri incident for child abuse jokes`
`06:16.22`	`Qwell`	`Missouri incident?`
`06:16.39`	`Ritalin2`	`that crazy woman killing her baby, I think ?`
`06:16.50`	`Ritalin2`	`saying it was possesed by the devil`
`06:16.51`	`ManxPower`	`Ritalin2: throw them in a river?`
`06:16.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: St Louis recovered two kidnapped teenage boys yesterday`
`06:17.30`	`ManxPower`	`Ritalin2: uh, kids are not cute.`
`06:17.38`	`ManxPower`	`My cat is cute. Kids are not.`
`06:17.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: it's been all over the news`
`06:18.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: one of whom was in the company of a 40yo man for 4 years`
`06:18.38`	`Ritalin2`	`ManxPower: you're supposed to say "i don't know" then I say "so you don't kill them" but Corydon rained on that parade`
`06:18.58`	`Qwell`	`umm, okay..`
`06:19.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: yeah, exactly`
`06:20.08`	`Ritalin2`	`what are the typical going rates for a BRI ?`
`06:20.33`	`Qwell`	`Ritalin2: in the US? Often nearly as much as a PRI`
`06:21.12`	`Corydon76-home`	`Depends upon what you mean by a BRI`
`06:21.21`	`codefreeze`	`jbot: what is life?`
`06:21.24`	`jbot`	`codefreeze: what are you talking about?`
`06:21.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`Do you mean 2 B channels and a D channel?`
`06:21.47`	`Ritalin2`	`Corydon: 4 B's`
`06:21.55`	`Qwell`	`4 Bs?`
`06:22.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`Where can you get 4 Bs and a D?`
`06:22.18`	`Qwell`	`on a partial T`
`06:22.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`other than in high school?`
`06:22.22`	`robl^`	`quad bris`
`06:22.28`	`Qwell`	`robl^: dual..`
`06:22.37`	`Qwell`	`quad BRI would be 8`
`06:22.55`	`codefreeze`	`jbot: seen file?`
`06:23.18`	`jbot`	`file is currently on #asterisk (1d 14h 21m 42s) #openezx (1d 14h 21m 42s) #elinux (1d 14h 21m 42s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 10m 20s, last said: 'eep'.`
`06:23.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`~seen file`
`06:23.25`	`jbot`	`file is currently on #asterisk (1d 14h 21m 49s) #openezx (1d 14h 21m 49s) #elinux (1d 14h 21m 49s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 10m 27s, last said: 'eep'.`
`06:23.25`	`Ritalin2`	`2 BRI then. i'm confused. guess you'd end up with 4B and 2D`
`06:23.28`	`robl^`	`Qwell: yeah.. sorry. about to pass out here. you are right. we have some quad bri interfaces at work for video conferencing equipment`
`06:23.52`	`Ritalin2`	`telephony is obviously a new thing to me`
`06:24.11`	`codefreeze`	`Corydon76-home: looks like it can handle either syntax.`
`06:24.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`looks that way`
`06:25.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`For some odd reason, whenever I see "codefreeze", I think "coppice"`
`06:25.43`	`perd`	`seek help`
`06:25.48`	`Qwell`	`~aaaa`
`06:25.50`	`Qwell`	`~bbbb`
`06:25.52`	`Qwell`	`~cccc`
`06:25.58`	`file`	`poor poor bot`
`06:25.59`	`perd`	`so, did you fix skinny yet, qwell`
`06:26.05`	`Qwell`	`cccc is blah`
`06:26.13`	`Qwell`	`jbot: cccc is blah`
`06:26.14`	`jbot`	`Qwell: okay`
`06:26.18`	`perd`	`cccc?`
`06:26.18`	`Qwell`	`jbot: bbbb is see cccc`
`06:26.20`	`jbot`	`okay, Qwell`
`06:26.22`	`Qwell`	`jbot: aaaa is see bbbb`
`06:26.24`	`jbot`	`okay, Qwell`
`06:26.26`	`Qwell`	`~aaaa`
`06:26.27`	`jbot`	`aaaa is, like, see bbbb`
`06:26.27`	`perd`	`your shit is broken`
`06:26.32`	`Qwell`	`~bbbb`
`06:26.33`	`jbot`	`it has been said that bbbb is see cccc`
`06:26.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: dddd is see aaaa`
`06:26.36`	`jbot`	`Corydon76-home: okay`
`06:26.37`	`Qwell`	`lame`
`06:26.43`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: zzzz is see dddd`
`06:26.45`	`jbot`	`...but zzzz is already something else...`
`06:26.48`	`Qwell`	`maybe that other one was a fluke`
`06:26.50`	`Qwell`	`~zzzz`
`06:26.51`	`jbot`	`[zzzz] "sex", as defined by Microsoft Word 6.0 for Windows. It suggests "sex" as a replacement for "zzzz".`
`06:26.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: yyyy is see dddd`
`06:26.55`	`jbot`	`Corydon76-home: okay`
`06:27.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: gggg is see yyyy`
`06:27.08`	`jbot`	`okay, Corydon76-home`
`06:27.08`	`Qwell`	`~recurse`
`06:27.10`	`jbot`	`~recurse`
`06:27.12`	`perd`	`jbot: perd is balls in your face, biatch!`
`06:27.13`	`jbot`	`perd: okay`
`06:27.19`	`perd`	`~perd`
`06:27.21`	`jbot`	`well, perd is balls in your face, biatch!`
`06:27.21`	`Ritalin2`	`so would anything in excess of 2B's be considered a fractional?`
`06:27.26`	`perd`	`yeah.`
`06:27.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`jbot: no, perd is <action> balls in your face, biatch!`
`06:27.51`	`jbot`	`Corydon76-home: okay`
`06:27.57`	`Corydon76-home`	`~perd`
`06:27.58`	`jbot`	`ACTION balls in your face, biatch!`
`06:28.02`	`perd`	`haha`
`06:28.10`	`perd`	`nice`
`06:28.12`	`robl^`	`poor jbot`
`06:28.31`	`perd`	`i bet jbot balls are heavy and metallic. they probably bruise ones face severely.`
`06:28.36`	`Qwell`	`okay, bed`
`06:28.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`~bed`
`06:28.42`	`jbot`	`i guess bed is a thing programmers have never heard of, ask me about shower`
`06:28.51`	`perd`	`~shower`
`06:28.53`	`jbot`	`a shower is what you clearly need, perd`
`06:28.58`	`perd`	`true that`
`06:29.05`	`codefreeze`	`no, no! don't ask about the shower!`
`06:29.14`	`perd`	`damage is done, sir`
`06:29.18`	`perd`	`carry on`
`06:29.58`	`robl^`	`oh my! get a room!`
`06:30.07`	`perd`	`that's hot`
`06:30.14`	`perd`	`so is this, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3825610222960975525&q=sodium+lake&hl=en`
`06:30.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`I meant, I'm going to bed, too`
`06:30.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`'night`
`06:30.36`	`perd`	`i doubt that`
`06:30.43`	`codefreeze`	`Somebody needs to spoon feed the Devil's Dictionary into jbot!`
`06:30.50`	`robl^`	`sleep well, Corydon76-home`
`06:30.59`	`perd`	`the devils dictionary?`
`06:30.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`I hope to`
`06:31.09`	`perd`	`holy mackaral`
`06:31.23`	`perd`	`mack aye rall`
`06:31.29`	`robl^`	`I am going to bed too.. but I am not following Corydon76-home or Qwell`
`06:38.55`	`Chicago`	`Hi I'm trying to run safe_asterisk, but my system doesn't have tty9... so I changed tty9 to C6... and here's the error message. /usr/local/sbin/safe_asterisk[93]: >&/dev/ttyC6 : illegal file descriptor name`
`06:39.18`	`Chicago`	`The line in my /etc/ttys for Screen 6 is. ttyC6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" vt220 on secure`
`06:39.31`	`perd`	`crw------- 1 root tty 4, 9 2005-02-25 20:39 /dev/tty9`
`06:39.37`	`Chicago`	`What am I supposed to do as an argument to getty? so that Asterisk can use it?`
`06:43.02`	`Chicago`	`perd: I have this one. crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 6 Jan 14 00:36 /dev/ttyC6`
`06:44.52`	`perd`	`incorrect major/minors for tty9`
`06:45.41`	`perd`	`mknod /dev/tty9 c 4 9`
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`06:47.40`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: ello ;]`
`06:48.42`	`perd`	`qwell followed some guy to bed about 20 min ago`
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`06:52.12`	`Chicago`	`perd: I get something like this. http://pastebin.ca/316110`
`07:01.14`	`ManxPower`	`Chicago: run: asterisk -cvvv to see what the REAL error message is.`
`07:02.05`	`ManxPower`	`Chicago: What sort of screwed up distro are you using?`
`07:02.15`	`Chicago`	`OpenBSD`
`07:02.28`	`ManxPower`	`good lord, not another one.`
`07:03.31`	`Chicago`	`Well, using asterisk -cvvv I do start mostly cleanly. http://pastebin.ca/316114`
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`07:03.38`	`ManxPower`	`Here's proof the End Times are near, "Animatronic Skype Phones" http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/09/01/evesham_unveils_verballs/`
`07:03.41`	`Chicago`	`The error message comes from when I run the safe_asterisk wrapper.`
`07:05.54`	`ManxPower`	`the wrapper is just a shell script, of course.`
`07:06.34`	`Chicago`	`Yeah... and in the shell script, I changed the tty variable from 9 to C6...`
`07:06.37`	`Chicago`	`and that's when I see this error. http://pastebin.ca/316110`
`07:07.16`	`Chicago`	`Which means, I probably setup the ttyc6 line incorrectly in this file. http://pastebin.ca/316116`
`07:11.27`	`irasnyd`	`hello. I'd like to have my asterisk be able to dial any sip phone by uri (for example: sip:613@fwd.pulver.net) without setting up a special connection for it. Can someone point me to some documentation for doing this?`
`07:11.57`	`DrCron`	`welcome to my world irasnyd`
`07:12.11`	`DrCron`	`is this over IAX?`
`07:13.58`	`irasnyd`	`no. I've got a sip softphone hooked into my asterisk box. I just want to be able to use sip uri's to call some test numbers and stuff.`
`07:14.17`	`irasnyd`	`I did find a workable (though somewhat ugly) solution here: http://macnugget.org/projects/asterisk/page7`
`07:14.29`	`irasnyd`	`I was just trying to see if there is a better way`
`07:14.56`	`DrCron`	`yhea, I never got it working, though i use IAX phones.. IAX seems to split off things after the @ and, well, it gets ugly`
`07:21.31`	`ManxPower`	`irasnyd: exten => _.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN})`
`07:22.09`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk is a multiprotocol PBX, not a SIP proxy. What you want to do is more what a SIP proxy is for.`
`07:22.38`	`DrCron`	`having the ability to sip proxy would be nice though`
`07:22.50`	`ManxPower`	`So, how would you dial sip:613@fwd.pulver.net from an analog phone?`
`07:23.14`	`irasnyd`	`ok. I'm still very new at this. I'll read up on sip proxies, also. Thanks.`
`07:23.32`	`ManxPower`	`You SIP phone might be able to dial sip:613@fwd.pulver.net directly without going thru Asterisk`
`07:23.32`	`DrCron`	`by an extension of course.. but having a bit more flexibility is what * is about, or so i thought`
`07:24.03`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk seems to work best when you dial phone numbers`
`07:24.21`	`DrCron`	`aggreed`
`07:24.40`	`DrCron`	`it would just be nice to have the ability to call out to URIs as well`
`07:24.58`	`DrCron`	`from, say, IAX enabled phones`
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`07:25.38`	`paavum`	`Hi`
`07:25.51`	`irasnyd`	`ManxPower: sure enough, the softphone can call a sip uri directly. (I don't get audio, but that's a NAT issue, I'm sure)`
`07:26.41`	`ManxPower`	`Most softphones should be able to. Since ALL SOFTPHONES SUCK, it's not something I deal with much.`
`07:26.54`	`paavum`	`exit`
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`07:27.34`	`paavum`	`Hi`
`07:27.47`	`paavum`	`I have two asterisk servers regged to each other via sip`
`07:27.56`	`paavum`	`however I can call from box1 to box2`
`07:28.01`	`paavum`	`but not the other way around`
`07:28.18`	`ManxPower`	`CLI output on pastebin.ca would be a good place to start`
`07:28.19`	`paavum`	`box2 seems to be sending box1 the SIP invites and stuff`
`07:28.40`	`paavum`	`cli on box1 shows nothing`
`07:28.58`	`ManxPower`	`then do a sip debug on box 1`
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`07:29.46`	`phpboy`	`hey all, what is better... doing a transcription of a telephone call live with asterisk or using 3rd party software with the .wav file?`
`07:33.34`	`paavum`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/316125`
`07:33.37`	`Strom_C`	`what do you mean "transcription"?`
`07:34.07`	`paavum`	`Strom_C --> he must mean monitoring :P`
`07:34.24`	`Strom_C`	`why don't we let him tell me what he means`
`07:34.26`	`paavum`	`my pastebin is what Box 1 Shows`
`07:34.33`	`DrCron`	`um, means going from audio to text`
`07:34.36`	`paavum`	`Box2 isnt recieving anything`
`07:34.44`	`paavum`	`however I can call from box2 to box1`
`07:34.49`	`paavum`	`(not the other way around)`
`07:35.11`	`paavum`	`ManxPower --> Sip debug on box 1 shows nothing`
`07:35.19`	`paavum`	`arrrrrghhhhhhh�`
`07:35.36`	`paavum`	`pastebin --> http://www.pastebin.ca/316125 (BOX 2 SIP DEBUG)`
`07:35.57`	`paavum`	`Box1 --> Shows nothing, not even in verbose 45 and sip debug`
`07:36.40`	`littleball`	`hello, any good documents about asterisk manager API?`
`07:36.48`	`phpboy`	`Strom_C: a dictation of the call`
`07:37.10`	`phpboy`	`of course, in most cases it won't be perfect... but a loose version is also fine`
`07:37.45`	`Strom_C`	`phpboy, are you having stenographers do your transcription?`
`07:38.11`	`DrCron`	`or did you want voice recognition`
`07:38.27`	`DrCron`	`because if you do, well, go call the nsa, i think they might have finaly gotten it working`
`07:38.44`	`phpboy`	`Strom_C: I'm not doing anything at the mo`
`07:38.50`	`phpboy`	mostly cos` I don't know how yet :P
`07:40.01`	`paavum`	`phpboy --> You are recording the call. Thats what you can do. You cant get a transcript of it unless you're using smoe kind of nsa-like voice recognition software`
`07:40.42`	`paavum`	`*asterisk`
`07:42.50`	`phpboy`	`paavum: what software do you suggest I use to get a transcription of the call`
`07:43.01`	`phpboy`	`I ofcouse have a .wav file with the recording of the call`
`07:43.06`	`paavum`	`phpboy --> Go ask the NSA`
`07:43.38`	`paavum`	`(that is NFI)`
`07:43.54`	`Strom_C`	`phpboy, best way to get a transcript of the call at that audio level is to have a human transcribe it manually`
`07:44.30`	`phpboy`	`:/`
`07:44.43`	`phpboy`	`Strom_C: ever used the asterisk dictation function before?`
`07:45.09`	`Strom_C`	`that's so a transcriptionist can use asterisk like a dictation machine`
`07:45.44`	`phpboy`	`there's no way I can tie that in with what I'm trying to do?`
`07:46.44`	`Strom_C`	`i think you're missing a key point here`
`07:46.51`	`Strom_C`	`you need a HUMAN TRANSCRIPTIONIST`
`07:47.02`	`phpboy`	`:/`
`07:47.10`	`phpboy`	`I woulda loved to have it manually`
`07:47.10`	`phpboy`	`:/`
`07:47.34`	`Strom_C`	`what are you doing that transcripts are so important?`
`07:48.18`	`phpboy`	`it's a call center that requires transciptions of calls`
`07:48.32`	`phpboy`	`for statistical purpouses`
`07:48.55`	`Strom_C`	`what statistics are you going to get out of a transcript?`
`07:49.26`	`phpboy`	`for one, management will beable to determine people swearing at others`
`07:49.35`	`phpboy`	`be it the client or the call center agent`
`07:50.01`	`Strom_M`	`have these people never managed a call center before?`
`07:50.06`	`phpboy`	`funny enough, how often the work money of varient there of is used`
`07:50.23`	`phpboy`	`Strom_C: I wouldn't know, I'm just doing as I'm told`
`07:50.24`	`Strom_M`	`because the way you manage a call center is you record all calls and do QA on a random sample`
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`07:50.34`	`phpboy`	`that's the thing`
`07:50.44`	`phpboy`	`they don't wanna do that`
`07:50.50`	`Strom_M`	`well, they're idiots`
`07:50.52`	`phpboy`	`they want better than that`
`07:50.54`	`phpboy`	`;`
`07:50.55`	`phpboy`	`:/`
`07:51.00`	`phpboy`	`I get paid`
`07:51.04`	`Strom_M`	`what you're describing is not better`
`07:51.06`	`phpboy`	`that's the important thing :T`
`07:51.11`	`Strom_M`	`uh, no`
`07:51.19`	`phpboy`	`:P`
`07:52.02`	`phpboy`	`I'd imagine that if what I imagine would work`
`07:52.06`	`phpboy`	`it's a good way, yes`
`07:52.07`	`phpboy`	`no?`
`07:52.11`	`Strom_M`	`no`
`07:52.18`	`phpboy`	`but why?`
`07:52.23`	`Strom_M`	`haven't you ever taken a statistics course?`
`07:52.41`	`phpboy`	`LOL`
`07:52.51`	`phpboy`	`I'm just taking intruction from management`
`07:52.54`	`phpboy`	`that's it`
`07:53.04`	`phpboy`	`my opinion on what they're trying to do does not matter`
`07:53.12`	`phpboy`	`they won't listen`
`07:53.17`	`Strom_M`	`I'm not asking what management is asking you to do`
`07:53.28`	`Strom_M`	`i'm asking if you, personally, have ever taken a statistics course`
`07:53.35`	`phpboy`	`I have not`
`07:53.38`	`phpboy`	`how does this matteR?`
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`07:53.53`	`Strom_M`	`because you asked why your proposed solution isn't better`
`07:54.01`	`phpboy`	`oh, right.`
`07:54.37`	`phpboy`	`the thing is, they wanna know more about the phone calls than they can do by themselves(by listening to random cals)`
`07:54.43`	`Strom_M`	`in sampling, you can determine with fairly high confidence the overall performance level of employees and the call center by sampling a much smaller group`
`07:55.03`	`Strom_M`	`so, say you handle 30,000 calls per week`
`07:55.34`	`phpboy`	`k`
`07:55.42`	`Strom_M`	`by sampling as few as a couple of hundred calls, you can determine with something like 95% confidence what's going on`
`07:55.55`	`Strom_M`	`i dont remember the exact formula`
`07:56.14`	`Strom_M`	`but anyway, the point is that you can use statistical methods to make vastly more effective use of your resources`
`07:56.29`	`Strom_M`	`and if management had a clue, they'd know this too`
`07:56.42`	`Strom_M`	`because i'm quite sure you must take statistics to get a college degree`
`07:57.14`	`phpboy`	`:T`
`07:57.26`	`phpboy`	`either way`
`07:57.44`	`phpboy`	`doesn't look like transcription is an option, whether or not it works :T`
`07:57.54`	`Strom_M`	`if they want to blow money on transcribing all calls, you can outsource it to india`
`07:58.29`	`phpboy`	`lol, funny enough, I doubt they'd do that`
`07:58.55`	`phpboy`	`but 'didgital' transcription would be cool`
`07:59.00`	`Strom_M`	`if I were in your situation, I would RUN from this client`
`07:59.03`	`phpboy`	`just as a toy for myself aswell`
`07:59.16`	`phpboy`	`na, they pay very well for other things I do`
`07:59.25`	`phpboy`	`they can be a tad unreasonable from time to time`
`07:59.31`	`phpboy`	`but the money's good, so I deal with it`
`08:02.17`	`phpboy`	`thanks for the advice though Strom_C :D`
`08:02.49`	`Strom_M`	`you're welcome`
`08:13.19`	`paavum`	`I have a strange SIP issue: I have two boxes connected via sip. I can call box2 from box1 without any hassle, yet, when I try to do it the otherway around I get nothing. not even a sip debug on box1 will show me box2 is calling`
`08:14.26`	`paavum`	`I just checked my firwalls and TCP/UDP port 5060 is open`
`08:14.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`What about UDP 10000-20000?`
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`08:15.35`	`paavum`	`ouch`
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`08:15.58`	`Spudz0r`	`hi guys, just wondering if there is anything in asterisk's configuration that will allow me to disable users from making outgoing calls, however accepting incoming calls? (this is specific users)`
`08:16.02`	`Spudz0r`	`thanks in advance.`
`08:17.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`Spudz0r: sure. If you don't have anything in the dialplan that matches outgoing calls, users will be unable to make any such`
`08:18.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Spudz0r : set their context to one that lets them do nothing.`
`08:18.54`	`Spudz0r`	`okay, thanks`
`08:18.55`	`Spudz0r`	`i'll see how i go :)`
`08:20.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Checkout time... way too late...`
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`08:45.01`	`The_Ball`	`should the linux kernel be compiled with 100, 250 or 1000hz interrupts?`
`08:48.22`	`paavum`	`I have a strange SIP issue: I have two boxes connected via sip. I can call box2 from box1 without any hassle, yet, when I try to do it the otherway around I get nothing. not even a sip debug on box1 will show me box2 is calling. All TCP and UDP ports are open`
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`09:47.46`	`phpboy`	`Jan 14 11:46:59 WARNING[2695]: translate.c:88 powerof: Powerof 0: No power??`
`09:47.47`	`phpboy`	`Jan 14 11:46:59 WARNING[2695]: translate.c:133 ast_translator_build_path: No translator path from gsm to unknown`
`09:47.51`	`phpboy`	`what does that mean?`
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`09:58.18`	`EmleyMoor`	`Does anyone know a London number beginning 700 that they won't mind me calling?`
`10:01.23`	`phpboy`	`phone a random number?`
`10:05.27`	`littleball`	`hello, which asterisk EVENT includes the channel status information? I am trying to provide a web UI for watching the channel status`
`10:05.40`	`coppice`	`I've always wondered where random is. When I grew up in Lodon the kid's shows on TV all had quizes, where they would announce the winner "pulled out an random". I guess all the TV companies had offices there.`
`10:15.04`	`brookshire`	`littleball: see ajam`
`10:16.08`	`brookshire`	`EmleyMoor: 700 numbers are usually private numbers, much like 192.168.0.0 in the networking world`
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`10:36.06`	`redax`	`good morning,`
`10:36.15`	`mitcheloc`	`good morning`
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`10:37.05`	`redax`	`I'm having problem that TRANSFER events not logged to queue_log`
`10:37.27`	`redax`	`or do I missunderstand something?`
`10:38.18`	`redax`	`if an agent picked up the caller, and he/she transfer the caller to another agent/queue/ext. that's the TRANSFER event?`
`10:41.55`	`The_Ball`	`i have a TDM400 and can't get it to work with propper sound quality, is there any networked fxo/fxs devices i can use instead?`
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`10:43.23`	`littleball`	`brookshire, only asterisk 1.4 support ajam right?`
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`10:52.41`	`sasch`	`hi all`
`10:52.48`	`sasch`	`can help me with asterisk manager`
`10:53.03`	`sasch`	`i write a program in framework 2.0 with visual basic .net`
`10:53.12`	`sasch`	`that connect to my asterisk`
`10:53.21`	`sasch`	`i create a socket and i send this`
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`10:53.35`	`sasch`	`Action: login`
`10:53.35`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:53.35`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:54.00`	`sasch`	`but at finish of line i must insert carrige return or not ??`
`10:54.08`	`redax`	`sure`
`10:54.10`	`sasch`	`chr(13)`
`10:54.15`	`redax`	`\r\n`
`10:54.30`	`redax`	`after the secret you must add an empty line as well`
`10:54.36`	`sasch`	`ok but in visual basic.net know the char \r\n`
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`10:55.15`	`sasch`	`Dim sendBytes As [Byte]() = Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes("Action: login " & _`
`10:55.15`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:55.15`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:55.20`	`sasch`	`is correct ??`
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`10:55.37`	`redax`	`grr`
`10:55.50`	`redax`	`\r = chr#10 \n = chr#13`
`10:56.11`	`sasch`	`ok`
`10:56.26`	`redax`	`no. vica versa`
`10:56.53`	`sasch`	`Dim sendBytes As [Byte]() = Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes("Action: login " & Chr(10) & Chr(13) & _`
`10:56.53`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:56.53`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:57.01`	`sasch`	`a ok`
`10:57.23`	`redax`	`10 the LF, and 13 the CR`
`10:57.58`	`sasch`	`Connect attempt from '192.168.0.2' unable to authenticate`
`10:58.31`	`Chicago`	`Anybody here able to help me with OpenBSD? I can start 'asterisk -cvvv' but when I goto run safe_asterisk, I'm having trouble connecting to the console.`
`10:58.50`	`redax`	`so chr(13) + char(10) you need to send`
`10:59.07`	`sasch`	`Dim sendBytes As [Byte]() = Encoding.ASCII.GetBytes("Action: login " & Chr(13) & Chr(10) & _`
`10:59.07`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:59.07`	`sasch`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:59.14`	`sasch`	`but return an error`
`10:59.19`	`sasch`	`Connect attempt from '192.168.0.2' unable to authenticate`
`10:59.44`	`sasch`	`in manager.conf all is ok`
`11:02.45`	`The_Ball`	`has anyone tried a fxo/fxs terminator like this with astrerisk? http://www.grandstream.com/y-ht486.htm`
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`11:03.53`	`redax`	`Chicago: maybe permissions`
`11:03.58`	`redax`	Chicago: safe_asterisk try to run asterisk as `asterisk' user
`11:04.03`	`redax`	`meanwhile asterisk -cvvvv as root`
`11:04.15`	`redax`	`would you help in this app_queue question?`
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`11:04.19`	`redax`	`the TRANSFER event not logged..`
`11:04.21`	`linagee`	`wow that is cool! hah`
`11:04.26`	`Chicago`	`redax: I'm dealing with this error message. "illegal file descriptor name".`
`11:04.27`	`linagee`	`iax pocket pc client. :)`
`11:04.52`	`Chicago`	`I think it means I haven't setup the tty correctly for asterisk to attach to.`
`11:05.08`	`redax`	`tty9 ?`
`11:05.20`	`redax`	`safe_asterisk run the console for tty9 ? not sure`
`11:06.15`	`redax`	`in the beginning of /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk you can setup which TTY you want to use as your primary console`
`11:06.17`	`Chicago`	`I edited my /usr/local/sbin/safe_asterisk and changed 9 to C6.. because my terminals on OpenBSD are named differently.`
`11:06.32`	`redax`	`C6?`
`11:06.35`	`redax`	`what is C6?`
`11:06.50`	`redax`	`and do you have /dev/ttyC6 ?`
`11:06.56`	`Chicago`	`OpenBSD by default doesn't use /dev/ttyC6... which I use with CTRL-ALT-F7.`
`11:07.02`	`Chicago`	`I added that virtual console.`
`11:07.07`	`sasch`	`redax can i speak with you in pvp ??`
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`11:07.52`	`Chicago`	`redax: There's a different error message I saw earlier when C6 didn't exist. now that it does exist, the error message is more of the form "illegal file descriptor name"`
`11:08.46`	`linagee`	`cool. i can call the freepbx conference room from my cell phone for $0.00/min. :-D`
`11:08.51`	`linagee`	`(iax2 pocket pc client)`
`11:10.08`	`mitcheloc`	`meh! me and my 200mhz ppc =(`
`11:10.20`	`redax`	`wait`
`11:11.33`	`mitcheloc`	`waiting`
`11:12.22`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: ?`
`11:12.50`	`mitcheloc`	`linagee: my t-mobile mda is too slow to run a ppc iax2 client =/`
`11:13.12`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: mine runs. i just wish someone would clean it up. :/`
`11:13.20`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: sometimes it's a bit crappy. heh`
`11:13.21`	`mitcheloc`	`you have an mda?`
`11:13.33`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: cingular 8525. :)`
`11:13.43`	`mitcheloc`	`well thats 4500mhz isn't it?`
`11:13.46`	`mitcheloc`	`*400`
`11:13.56`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: i've had it for approximately 6-8 hours now. :-D`
`11:14.03`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: i think so. 400mhz`
`11:14.07`	`linagee`	`mikefoo: and HSDPA`
`11:14.12`	`linagee`	`hellafast. :)`
`11:14.13`	`mitcheloc`	`meh, iv'e got a 400mhz`
`11:14.19`	`mitcheloc`	`hah, i mean 200mhz`
`11:14.39`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: right now i am trying out ESCSoftphone`
`11:14.45`	`linagee`	`maybe there's a better one? heh`
`11:15.39`	`Chicago`	`Well somebody explain to me what the "illegal file descriptor name" error from safe_asterisk means? I'm trying to connect to TTY=C6 and have edited my /usr/local/sbin/safe_asterisk to show it.`
`11:16.03`	`mitcheloc`	`linagee: why did redax want us to wait?`
`11:16.42`	`linagee`	`mitcheloc: huh?`
`11:18.10`	`mitcheloc`	`up up ^^`
`11:20.20`	`linagee`	`oic`
`11:23.33`	`redax`	`Chicago: if you leave TTY=""`
`11:23.48`	`redax`	`then your astersisk should run fine, just without primary console`
`11:23.53`	`redax`	`try that`
`11:23.58`	`Chicago`	`Yeah, that's the problem =-p`
`11:24.07`	`Chicago`	`I'll try anyways of course.`
`11:27.41`	`mitcheloc`	`tzafrir: what are you referring to?`
`11:27.42`	`Chicago`	`redax: Setting tty="" gave me bad results after doing safe_asterisk... and then a bit later safe_asterisk -r. There was a continuous scrolling loop... of hostname*CLI>... which looked like bad terminal emulation to me.`
`11:28.01`	`redax`	`aha`
`11:28.14`	`Chicago`	`Basically, I added a new virtual console so that Asterisk can have its own primary console.`
`11:28.36`	`redax`	`change CONSOLE="no" as well`
`11:28.37`	`Chicago`	`I can use it as a normal console... and I think that might be the problem... since it's waiting for a login... I guess Asterisk isn't able to attach to it.`
`11:29.17`	`redax`	`I think I found my app_queue no TRANSFER event logged`
`11:29.25`	`tzafrir`	`mitcheloc, safe_asterisk is totally unnecessary and just complicates your life`
`11:29.38`	`redax`	`yah. sure.`
`11:29.40`	`Chicago`	`redax: I think I'll post my /usr/local/sbin/safe_asterisk and then the output I get with doing safe_asterisk.`
`11:29.49`	`tzafrir`	`Just use a proper init.d script. Just run 'asterisk' instead of 'safe_asterisk'`
`11:31.28`	`redax`	`may I post a few lines from app_queue.c for my question (~5lines)`
`11:31.57`	`redax`	`ast_copy_string(oldcontext, qe->chan->context, sizeof(oldcontext));`
`11:31.57`	`redax`	`ast_copy_string(oldexten, qe->chan->exten, sizeof(oldexten));`
`11:31.57`	`redax`	`time(&callstart);`
`11:31.57`	`redax`	`bridge = ast_bridge_call(qe->chan,peer, &bridge_config);`
`11:31.57`	`redax`	`if (strcasecmp(oldcontext, qe->chan->context) \|\| strcasecmp(oldexten, qe->chan->exten)) {`
`11:31.58`	`redax`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:32.21`	`redax`	`..in this part, oldcontext is overwritten with qe->chan->context,`
`11:32.37`	`redax`	`and just after testend if it's different or not`
`11:32.55`	`redax`	`should be this the not having TRANSFER event ?`
`11:33.32`	`Chicago`	`Here's my safe_asterisk -> http://pastebin.ca/316213 and here's the console output when I run it. NOTE: I have to run it twice. http://pastebin.ca/316216`
`11:34.03`	`redax`	`TTY="" ?`
`11:34.29`	`Chicago`	`oh yeah.`
`11:34.33`	`Chicago`	`Lemme change that. :)`
`11:35.55`	`Chicago`	`Well how nice. :) I have a CLI.`
`11:36.23`	`Chicago`	`On OpenBSD it's "Asterisk 1.2.9.1"`
`11:36.43`	`mitcheloc`	`Asterisk? who uses that?`
`11:37.10`	`redax`	`;-)`
`11:37.43`	`monsted`	`mitcheloc: it's a good test bed before you move on to proper products like call manager ;)`
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`11:38.01`	`mitcheloc`	`good point`
`11:38.38`	`Chicago`	`mitcheloc: monsted: Is call manager free?`
`11:38.45`	`mitcheloc`	`nein`
`11:38.50`	`monsted`	`Chicago: 'course not`
`11:38.57`	`Chicago`	`das ist nicht gut`
`11:39.08`	`monsted`	`Chicago: that's what makes it a real product instead of this free hippie stuff`
`11:39.27`	`Chicago`	`Well, AT&T unix was hippie stuff too.`
`11:40.26`	`X-Rob`	`mitcheloc, did that guy get in touch with you?`
`11:42.24`	`mitcheloc`	`X-Rob: yes, but i was a bit asleep when he contacted me so i don't remember the exact conversation`
`11:42.32`	`mitcheloc`	`X-Rob: i believe the last word was that he was going to e-mail me`
`11:42.35`	`X-Rob`	`cool`
`11:48.30`	`tzafrir`	`* mitcheloc hides: this is a place where mitcheloc uses a '*'`
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`11:51.15`	`X-Rob`	`Bah`
`11:51.17`	`X-Rob`	`I'm going to bed.`
`11:51.25`	`X-Rob`	`Nothing important in the timeline.`
`11:52.33`	`redax`	`seems to be ok.`
`11:52.43`	`mitcheloc`	`Good night X-Rob even though you already left`
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`12:03.55`	`tioan`	`hi`
`12:05.14`	`tioan`	`which cards would vou use for asterisk, one hfc with zaptel into nt mode for internal isdn and one svm firtzvard with chan_capi for external isdn, or two hfc cards with zapterl`
`12:05.19`	`tioan`	`one nt mode one te mode`
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`13:11.02`	`xheliox`	`'sho is quiet.`
`13:13.56`	`sasch`	`in asterisk 1.4 there is a change in manager ??`
`13:14.14`	`sasch`	`because i connect with my application (write in vb .net)`
`13:14.28`	`sasch`	`and asterisk don't autenticate ...`
`13:14.40`	`sasch`	`excusme for my english I'm italian :-P`
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`13:26.00`	`tzafrir`	`sasch, can you login with telnet?`
`13:26.00`	`Nugget`	`telnet is eeeeeeevil!`
`13:26.17`	`tzafrir`	`that was fast, telnet`
`13:26.18`	`potsboy`	`hi all, just have migrated to 1.4 and cant seem to find what the old ${TIMESTAMP} have been replaced with, anybody know?`
`13:27.24`	`potsboy`	`dont worry got it strftime`
`13:27.25`	`tzafrir`	`sasch, no such drastic change`
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`13:33.53`	`sasch`	`<tzafrir> i write an application in VB`
`13:34.04`	`sasch`	`that open a socket with asterisk`
`13:34.13`	`tzafrir`	`sasch, but the interface you work with is plain text`
`13:34.25`	`tzafrir`	`you asked specifically about logging in`
`13:34.47`	`sasch`	`http://pastebin.ca/316286`
`13:34.51`	`sasch`	`this is my class`
`13:35.00`	`sasch`	`but asterisk say me`
`13:35.08`	`sasch`	`Connect attempt from '10.4.0.2' unable to authenticate`
`13:36.19`	`tzafrir`	`telnet asteriskserver 5038`
`13:36.23`	`tzafrir`	`write there:`
`13:36.33`	`tzafrir`	`Action: login`
`13:37.38`	`tzafrir`	`Username: youruser`
`13:37.38`	`tzafrir`	`Secret: youruser's password`
`13:37.38`	`tzafrir`	`and press Enter twice`
`13:37.49`	`tzafrir`	`Can you login?`
`13:38.10`	`tzafrir`	`http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+manager+API`
`13:38.50`	`sasch`	`Asterisk Call Manager/1.0`
`13:38.50`	`sasch`	`Action: login`
`13:38.50`	`sasch`	`Username: sasch`
`13:38.50`	`sasch`	`Secret: ******`
`13:38.50`	`sasch`	`Response: Success`
`13:38.51`	`sasch`	`Message: Authentication accepted`
`13:38.54`	`sasch`	`ok work`
`13:39.03`	`sasch`	`but my class don't work -.-'`
`13:39.30`	`ManxPower`	`sasch: We cannot help you with VB. We can only help you with Asterisk. You have just confirmed that by using Telnet you can log into the Manager Interface.`
`13:39.56`	`sasch`	`ok thanks for all`
`13:39.58`	`sasch`	`!!!!`
`13:40.33`	`tzafrir`	`sasch, one way of action is to use a sniffer to see what your app actually sends`
`13:40.51`	`tzafrir`	`ethereal is nice`
`13:40.57`	`tzafrir`	`wireshark, sorry`
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`13:43.59`	`EmleyMoor`	`Is there an easy way to slice an extension to get its third digit?`
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`13:51.03`	`EmleyMoor`	`OK, let me put it another way: I want to extract the third digit of a dialed number - and only the third digit - how do I do it?`
`13:55.00`	`ManxPower`	`EmleyMoor: README.variables - READIT carefully.`
`13:55.38`	`ManxPower`	`Would that be 3rd digit from beginning or 3rd digit from the end? 89-)`
`13:55.59`	`EmleyMoor`	`From the beginning`
`13:56.43`	`ManxPower`	`Come back when you've read README.variables`
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`13:57.28`	`ManxPower`	`FNORD!`
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`13:58.12`	`ManxPower`	`Or more correctly: !`
`13:58.13`	`EmleyMoor`	`Ah, ${EXTEN:3:1}`
`13:58.31`	`EmleyMoor`	`Or not quite`
`13:58.49`	`ManxPower`	`EmleyMoor: generally anytime you say "How can I do X with a variable?", the answer is usually "Read README.variables"`
`13:59.12`	`ManxPower`	`EmleyMoor: The Wiki prolly has the same information described differently`
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`14:07.11`	`EmleyMoor`	`Currently using 57x followed by the number required in "as dialed from London" format`
`14:07.25`	`EmleyMoor`	`(just dialing takes best route and uses most appropriate ID)`
`14:07.56`	`EmleyMoor`	`I may change the 5 to a 9 at some point`
`14:07.59`	`Fulk`	`afternoon`
`14:10.14`	`EmleyMoor`	`(9 is currently "outside line for local calls" but has been effectively done away with)`
`14:11.23`	`Fulk`	`What's the best book I could purchase on the Asterisk system?`
`14:11.39`	`EmleyMoor`	`!book`
`14:11.45`	`EmleyMoor`	`~book`
`14:11.46`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`14:13.08`	`Fulk`	`I'd looked at it, is there anything more comprehensive?`
`14:14.12`	`EmleyMoor`	`Well, not that I know of - though the package itself is well documented and the CLI can show you the apps and functions`
`14:17.21`	`ManxPower`	`I thought 0 was used for "outside line" in Euroland?`
`14:18.08`	`EmleyMoor`	`ManxPower: In Spain and Finland, yes. Rest of Europe tends to use 9`
`14:18.17`	`ManxPower`	`Ah, OK.`
`14:18.40`	`EmleyMoor`	`All UK systems I have ever used that needed anything for outside line used 9`
`14:18.43`	`ManxPower`	`For an USAian I know a fair amount about Eurotelecom, but it's still not all that much.`
`14:19.39`	`EmleyMoor`	`0 is the equivalent of the US 1 in the UK (and indeed most of Europe) - 9 is used instead in Finland, Iceland, Spain and Turkey.`
`14:19.40`	`Chicago`	`Can somebody help me debug my safe_asterisk script on OpenBSD? I've changed the TTY to C6... and if I have C6 disabled, I get an error when I run safe_asterisk saying "cannot open /dev/ttyC6: Device not configured"... so when I enable the device... the previous error message goes away.. but this one remains. "/usr/local/sbin/safe_asterisk[93]: >&/dev/ttyC6 : illegal file descriptor name"`
`14:20.23`	`ManxPower`	`Chicago: This is NOT an Asterisk issue. Try #OpenBAD`
`14:20.31`	`ManxPower`	`or maybe #OpenBSD`
`14:22.32`	`Chicago`	`Why isn't it an asterisk issue?`
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`14:23.04`	`sasch`	`i go back ^^`
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`14:23.17`	`sasch`	`my ADSL was down`
`14:23.53`	`Cyt`	`Hello! Is there anyway to make asterisk write a value in a text file?`
`14:24.37`	`ManxPower`	`Chicago: Because it is an OS specific issue with a shell script.`
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`14:26.42`	`Chicago`	`ManxPower: Well the asterisk issue would be "Which type of primary console should I setup for asterisk to use"`
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`14:28.24`	`tzafrir`	`Cyt, why do you want Asterisk to do that? At call time? You can use System() from the dialplqn for simple stuff`
`14:28.27`	`perd`	`save yourself the trouble and run it in 'screen' :)`
`14:28.52`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, none. Asterisk is a daemon`
`14:29.31`	`tzafrir`	`Cyt, what exactly do you want it to write?`
`14:29.58`	`Chicago`	`tzafrir: That's illogical.`
`14:30.25`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, what kind of console did you have in mind?`
`14:30.32`	`Cyt`	`tzafrir: I have to transfer all the calls to an X number (this part is working). My user will dial an extension, enter this number and then all the calls will be diverted to this number.`
`14:31.13`	`Cyt`	`tzafrir: I need to store the number (value entered) somewhere`
`14:31.13`	`ManxPower`	`tzanger: he's running OpenBSD`
`14:31.18`	`tzafrir`	`Cyt, attended transfer?`
`14:31.27`	`Chicago`	`tzanger: I'm gonna try in a bash shell... see if that fixes it.`
`14:31.29`	`ManxPower`	`He's having problems with the /dev/tty9 safe_asterisk defaults to`
`14:31.34`	`tzanger`	`ManxPower: ?`
`14:31.37`	`tzafrir`	`ManxPower, all the better. Asterisk does not need a dedicated console`
`14:31.38`	`tzanger`	`oh tzafrir HEH`
`14:31.40`	`tzanger`	`heh`
`14:31.42`	`Cyt`	`tzafrir: what do you mean by attented transfer?`
`14:31.52`	`Chicago`	`ManxPower: I changed the line TTY=9 to "C6" to use the new virtual console I created for asterisk to bind to.`
`14:32.09`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, dump safe_asterisk. You don't need it`
`14:32.15`	`tzafrir`	`Asterisk has good log files`
`14:32.28`	`tzafrir`	`It has a remote console you can attach to with asterisk -r`
`14:32.42`	`Cyt`	`tzafrir: I just had an ideia, let me try... be right back`
`14:32.44`	`tzafrir`	`safe_asterisk is buggy and useless. Don't bother making it work`
`14:33.33`	`redax`	`hm./ still having problem, TRANSFER not logged to queue_log`
`14:33.46`	`ManxPower`	`I actually use "service asterisk start", but I doubt that will work on OpenBSD 8-)`
`14:34.34`	`redax`	`if I transfer a caller neither the qe->chan->exten not changed from the extension of the queue, neither the qe->chan->context`
`14:34.50`	`tzafrir`	`ManxPower, you just need to slightly rewrite the existing init.d script not to use safe_asterisk by default`
`14:34.59`	`tzafrir`	`As a bonus you get a proper PID file`
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`14:51.16`	`Chicago`	`tzafrir: Changing line 57 here in the safe_asterisk script actually made it work partially. http://pastebin.ca/316313`
`14:52.21`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, this is bad`
`14:52.39`	`tzafrir`	`Think what happens when it is run from the default init process`
`14:52.52`	`tzafrir`	`As I said: buggy script`
`14:52.58`	`Chicago`	`It is shitty.`
`14:53.08`	`tzafrir`	`So don't bother`
`14:53.24`	`tzafrir`	`from the init script just call asterisk`
`14:53.31`	`tzafrir`	`(with e.g: -U asterisk)`
`14:53.48`	`tzafrir`	`You can later kill it by pid, or whatever`
`14:53.57`	`tzafrir`	`in the stop target`
`14:54.03`	`suma`	`Is there is any fxo device (not pci cards) for asterisk ?`
`14:54.40`	`tzafrir`	`suma, there are quite a few ATAs. Some of them also have an FXO port. e.g: sipura3k`
`14:55.08`	`suma`	`tzafrir, sorry looking for IAX2 based, aware of SIP ones`
`14:55.10`	`Chicago`	`tzafrir: Is there a preferred shell for running asterisk & the safe_asterisk script... even though safe asterisk has a shebang for sh?`
`14:55.54`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, if there is some bashism there, please file a bug report`
`14:56.12`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, it should work with any decent bourne shell`
`14:56.43`	`monsted`	`o/~ bourne to be wild o/~`
`14:57.59`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, Debian here has a rule: if it states #!/bin/sh , it should work with any bournce-shell compatible shell. If it's a bash script it should run #!/bin/bash`
`14:58.02`	`Chicago`	`tzafrir: The OpenBSD guys did point out bashisms... I'll paste bin the dialogue . http://pastebin.ca/316338`
`14:59.07`	`tzafrir`	`right, >& is bash-specific syntanctic sugar`
`14:59.34`	`Cyt`	`tzafrir: I used: System(echo "${MOB}" > /asterisk/mobilenumber) -- And I've got what I wanted ;) thanks`
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`15:00.49`	`robin_sz`	`moaning`
`15:01.19`	`robin_sz`	`so chan_mISDN seems to ignore soem DTMF digits .. fails to decode them`
`15:02.05`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, it's still in trunk. Along with the wonderful: echo "some error message" >&2`
`15:02.09`	`robin_sz`	`I tried setting sensitivity to 20, but then it spuriously dials digits from speech, 30 seems OK though. even at 20 it failed the recognise some analogue phones dtmf`
`15:02.27`	`robin_sz`	`any clues?`
`15:03.03`	`tzafrir`	`Chicago, report a bug and get your karma points...`
`15:03.15`	`Chicago`	`tzafrir: I'm going to.`
`15:03.23`	`Chicago`	`I even blogged a bit about it.`
`15:03.36`	`Chicago`	`cause I realized that my comments weren't fit for the technical write howto... hehe`
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`15:06.08`	`robin_sz`	`hmm .. I jhave * 1.2.13 .. didn;t chan_mISDN become part of * at some point?`
`15:06.30`	`tzafrir`	`robin_sz, yes, it is`
`15:06.57`	`tzafrir`	`I saw quite a few commits to chan_misdn in the 1.2 branch in the recent days, though`
`15:08.22`	`robin_sz`	`perhaps I should consider an upgrade at some point?`
`15:09.42`	`robin_sz`	`presumably tar up /etc/asterisk just in case, make and install a new * .. if it all goes tits up, just do make install in the source dir of the current *?`
`15:12.00`	`tzafrir`	`robin_sz, maybe going over the logs would be a start?`
`15:12.23`	`tzafrir`	`Or trying to run Asterisk from an alternative directory`
`15:14.11`	`robin_sz`	`ummm ... well, how would looking at the logs help?`
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`15:15.32`	`robin_sz`	`it fails to notice when at least some phones do dtmf ... so there isnt anyting in the log when it does that becuase its failed to notice it happen`
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`15:17.54`	`RahaiL`	`Any here do Branded softphone`
`15:17.55`	`RahaiL`	`?`
`15:18.23`	`Bladerunner05`	`Hello, I configura my * to connect to a sip provider. I can call everyone. but when I call my voip number I hear busy tone and asterisk report this error: chan_sip.c: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission 15b76b39139315e50f33d55d047e523e@squillo.it for seqno 102 (Critical Response)`
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`15:45.08`	`robin_sz`	`so let me get thsi straight .. chan_mISDN is the channel driver, and thats part of * ... the kernel module that actually talsk to the card and does DTMF decoding etc, thats not part fo * and is installed speratly, ratehr liek zaptel,????`
`15:45.27`	`tzafrir`	`basically, yes`
`15:45.32`	`robin_sz`	`right`
`15:45.42`	`Bladerunner05`	`Hello, I configura my * to connect to a sip provider. I can call everyone. but when I call my voip number I hear busy tone and asterisk report this error: chan_sip.c: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission 15b76b39139315e50f33d55d047e523e@squillo.it for seqno 102 (Critical Response)`
`15:45.51`	`tzafrir`	`Somewhat unlike zaptel, there is also a userspace library to talk to that driver. It is in a separate package`
`15:46.03`	`robin_sz`	`so its not necessarlily * I need to upgrade but the other bits`
`15:46.31`	`tzafrir`	`right`
`15:46.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : * running behind nTA?`
`15:46.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NAT*`
`15:46.52`	`tzafrir`	`Though the tarballs you can get from Digium have not been updated in the recent month or two`
`15:47.41`	`robin_sz`	`sigh`
`15:47.47`	`tzafrir`	`robin_sz, in the most obious location: ftp://ftp.digium.com/pub/zaptel/b410p`
`15:47.50`	`Bladerunner05`	`yes`
`15:48.13`	`Bladerunner05`	`but I specify nat=yes in sip.conf`
`15:48.51`	`robin_sz`	`tzafrir, neither of htose have dates newer than the bundles I have`
`15:48.53`	`robin_sz`	`:(`
`15:49.31`	`robin_sz`	`mqueue is the user space library?`
`15:49.49`	`robin_sz`	`and b410p is the kernel module?`
`15:49.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : pastebin the [general] section of sip.conf, and have you forwarded ports 5060, 10000-20000 (all UDP) to your server?`
`15:49.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`15:49.59`	`jbot`	`i guess pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
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`15:55.13`	`Bladerunner05`	`this is my general session in sip.conf http://www.pastebin.ca/316390`
`15:56.41`	`RahaiL`	`Any here do Branded softphone`
`15:57.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : you are missing "localnet", "externip", "canreinvite=no", which are all necessary for SIP to work behind NAT.`
`15:58.01`	`Bladerunner05`	`�[TK]D-Fender� extenip what value ?`
`15:58.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : Also ensure that the ports I listed above are indeed forwarded to you * server`
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`15:58.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : that has to ahve your PUBLIC IP from your router`
`15:59.15`	`Bladerunner05`	`�[TK]D-Fender� ok, now I forward that port and canreinvete=no in the general session or provider session ?`
`16:00.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : both... just to be sure`
`16:00.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : Careful of your typing, you've misspelled both of those parameters here...`
`16:01.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, things don't work too well when you misspell their parameters`
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`16:03.37`	`Cyllene`	`Would anyone know why I am able to speak to a person when making calls, but unable to hear them when using IAX2?`
`16:08.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`Cyllene: try turning off the jitter buffer`
`16:10.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : Also for sanity's sake I highly suggest you remove all commented lines in your configs that you didn't write yourself.`
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`16:19.51`	`anonymouz666`	`I have a sinister problem... In a subnet 192.168.9.10 when I call to another peer.. I reach Asterisk 10.1.0.250 - when * try to send the packet back to GW 192.168.9.1, the GW drops the packet.`
`16:20.14`	`anonymouz666`	`and 192.168.9.10 didn't get the SIP message`
`16:20.46`	`joat`	`routing set up on the gw properly?`
`16:21.18`	`Cyllene`	`Corydon76-home: Would that be tantamount to "Noise Reduction"?`
`16:21.32`	`anonymouz666`	`it's a dlink route`
`16:21.34`	`joat`	`can you ping 192.168.9.10 from 10.1.0.250?`
`16:21.40`	`anonymouz666`	`yes`
`16:22.03`	`monsted`	`broken packet inspection maybe?`
`16:22.08`	`anonymouz666`	`oops`
`16:22.15`	`anonymouz666`	`sorry, I don't know if I can do that.`
`16:22.19`	`joat`	`both IP's on the back side of the route or one on each side?`
`16:22.29`	`anonymouz666`	`but 192.168.9.10 register on 10.1.0.250`
`16:22.53`	`robin_sz`	`maybe its a huanted network`
`16:23.23`	`Bladerunner05`	`�[TK]D-Fender� port 5060 is tcp, udp or both ?`
`16:23.24`	`robin_sz`	`ie has a transparent bridge somwhere between the two?`
`16:23.49`	`robin_sz`	`oh the fun to be had with an ARP transparent bridge :)`
`16:24.00`	`anonymouz666`	`dlink LAN is DHCPD and distribute IP 192.168.9.X`
`16:24.07`	`anonymouz666`	`WAN gets the IP 10.1.0.X`
`16:24.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : UDP only`
`16:24.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : and I'd suggest 5060-5070 just to get some extra room.`
`16:24.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : Not a bad idea to forward IAX2 while you're at it even if you're not using it yet. UDP 4569`
`16:25.00`	`joat`	`you may have to set up port forwarding on the dlink`
`16:26.33`	`anonymouz666`	`but I can do that only with 1 IP address`
`16:26.45`	`anonymouz666`	`put that IP on DMZ list for example`
`16:26.56`	`anonymouz666`	`Or no?`
`16:26.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`anonymouz666 : You've got that D-Link to act as a real router, and not a NAT one?`
`16:27.03`	`Cyllene`	`Here is the problem: When I call, I can hear the other party for a few seconds, and then it goes dead:`
`16:27.24`	`Cyllene`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:27.24`	`Cyllene`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:27.37`	`Cyllene`	`After that message ^, it goes.`
`16:28.34`	`Cyllene`	`goes/dies`
`16:28.37`	`anonymouz666`	`[TK]D-Fender: NAT. To separate the networks. No one can get IP from 10.1.0.X only what I put on dhcpd.conf. Everybody should be behind the NAT provided by DLINK`
`16:29.21`	`joat`	`dlink doesn't allow for port forwarding (vice dmz)??? (yikes!)`
`16:30.39`	`robin_sz`	`so ... it doesnt seem that the kernel stuff has had a re-release since novembery time`
`16:31.36`	`anonymouz666`	`but the damn dlink in blocking SIP messages when it comes from Asterisk 10.1.0.250`
`16:31.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`anonymouz666 : NAt means you can't target IP's on one side properly... better to get a 2nd NIC and use Linux as your router`
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`16:37.10`	`paavum`	`hello?`
`16:37.49`	`paavum`	`I cant seem to connect to asterisk servers via SIP nor IAX, it works one way, but not the other`
`16:38.07`	`paavum`	`when my local box dials to the remote box, everything passes through with no problems`
`16:38.45`	`paavum`	`but when the remote box tries to dial my box I get this on the remote box`
`16:38.54`	`paavum`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:38.54`	`paavum`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:39.56`	`Bladerunner05`	`�[TK]D-Fender� I need 10000 to 20000 ?`
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`16:42.35`	`robin_sz`	`so, what are the alternatives for mISDN with a HFC card then?`
`16:47.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bladerunner05 : yes, those are RTP port which is what holds the audio of your calls.`
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`16:52.28`	`paavum`	`I cant seem to connect to asterisk servers via SIP nor IAX, it works one way, but not the other when my local box dials to the remote box, everything passes through with no problems but when the remote box tries to dial my box I get this on the remote box -- Executing Dial("IAX2/200.71.58.39:63819-5", "IAX2/888/96446799\|300\|r") in new stack == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)`
`16:52.38`	`paavum`	`Anybody can help me out?`
`16:52.55`	`paavum`	`just doublechecked the ports`
`16:53.02`	`paavum`	`and the configs`
`16:53.21`	`robin_sz`	`paavum, is your local phoen behind a NAT firewall?`
`16:53.54`	`paavum`	`yes`
`16:54.36`	`robin_sz`	`and the remote box is non-nat?`
`16:54.42`	`paavum`	`yes`
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`16:55.23`	`robin_sz`	`and what special arran gements have you made on your local NAT firewall for IAX and SIP?`
`16:55.32`	`robin_sz`	`a) none`
`16:55.40`	`robin_sz`	`b) lots of work`
`16:56.04`	`monsted`	`a) :)`
`16:56.24`	`robin_sz`	`paavum, hello?`
`16:56.40`	`robin_sz`	`ping?`
`16:56.50`	`paavum`	`im here`
`16:57.01`	`paavum`	`welll`
`16:57.04`	`paavum`	`I've forwarded`
`16:57.11`	`paavum`	`let me tell you which ports`
`16:57.21`	`paavum`	`4569 udp`
`16:57.28`	`paavum`	`5060 tcp/udp`
`16:57.33`	`paavum`	`10000-20000 udp`
`16:57.56`	`robin_sz`	`and thats from outside to your * box inside?`
`16:58.07`	`paavum`	`outside to my * box`
`16:58.09`	`paavum`	`yes`
`16:58.26`	`robin_sz`	`well in that case, time to fire up tcpdump and see if the packets are getting through at all :)`
`16:58.58`	`paavum`	`so I make a call from the remote end to mine ....`
`16:59.02`	`paavum`	`hold on`
`16:59.51`	`robin_sz`	`you don;t have a speedtouch adsl router by chance do you?#`
`17:00.59`	`paavum`	`Nope`
`17:01.06`	`robin_sz`	`just a thought`
`17:01.15`	`paavum`	`its an OpenBSD box running pf`
`17:01.37`	`robin_sz`	`so, just watch on your local * box for incoming packets from remote box ...`
`17:01.50`	`robin_sz`	`tcpdump host <remoteip>`
`17:02.52`	`robin_sz`	`I assume you are already running asterisk -rvvvvvv and can see noting on the CLI when the remote tries to connect`
`17:04.13`	`paavum`	`robin`
`17:04.15`	`paavum`	`I see traffic`
`17:04.22`	`paavum`	`and yes I dont see anything`
`17:04.28`	`paavum`	`not even when I do IAX show debug`
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`17:07.31`	`awannabe`	`hey guys, does anyone have any recommendation for having follow me/hunting setup for a system where people will login to differnt phones all the time, and need to have the same extension`
`17:07.38`	`robin_sz`	`well, if theres traffic in both directions during the connection pahse, soemthig should appear on the CLI, turn the debugging up on the local box a bit more`
`17:08.25`	`robin_sz`	`awannabe, liek hot-desking ... people log into a PC and the phone by that PC becomes their phone, by magic?`
`17:08.43`	`awannabe`	`robin_sz, lol, no not that much magic!`
`17:09.12`	`awannabe`	`we have multiple locations, and users travel between offices, and want to have the same extension no matter what office they are at`
`17:09.35`	`robin_sz`	`and how, exactly will the system discover where they are?`
`17:09.48`	`awannabe`	`well, they would have to login`
`17:09.53`	`robin_sz`	`to?`
`17:10.00`	`awannabe`	`like a call que or something`
`17:10.05`	`robin_sz`	`theres "follow me" ..`
`17:10.19`	`awannabe`	`yeah, but we dont know what phone they will be at`
`17:10.31`	`awannabe`	`each phone has a "default" extension, then each user has a personal one`
`17:10.36`	`robin_sz`	`for obvious reasons, people dont normally do "i am here"`
`17:11.33`	`awannabe`	`i think call ques will work, i just have to make a que for each user`
`17:11.42`	`robin_sz`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=PBX+Follow+Me`
`17:11.45`	`robin_sz`	`read that`
`17:13.31`	`awannabe`	`oh wow, i didnt know asterisk hsa this built in lol`
`17:13.41`	`awannabe`	`have you used it before?`
`17:13.42`	`robin_sz`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=PBX+Extension+Mobility`
`17:15.40`	`awannabe`	`intresging`
`17:15.44`	`awannabe`	`so FollowMe looks very un documented, i see nothing on this followme.conf file`
`17:16.09`	`robin_sz`	`try the second link i pasted`
`17:16.26`	`awannabe`	`yeah im looking at that now`
`17:16.30`	`awannabe`	`so its a call que`
`17:16.55`	`paavum`	`robin_sz --> I'm posting the Iax debug on to pastebin`
`17:19.27`	`paavum`	`robin_sz --> http://www.pastebin.ca/316461`
`17:22.31`	`paavum`	`robin_sz�`
`17:22.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`FreePBX... YAY!`
`17:24.24`	`suma`	`any IAX2 FXO gateway available other than the PCI FXO cards ?`
`17:24.50`	`robin_sz`	`paavum, thats freepbx isnt it?`
`17:25.37`	`paavum`	`one end it is`
`17:25.41`	`paavum`	`the other isnt`
`17:25.54`	`paavum`	`(the end that works is on freepbx)`
`17:26.01`	`paavum`	`aka the remote end`
`17:27.21`	`paavum`	`dont dump me to freepbx`
`17:27.26`	`tzafrir`	`asterisk + SIP ATA?`
`17:28.12`	`robin_sz`	`and there is no activity on the local end CLI during the call attempt?`
`17:28.17`	`tzafrir`	`or some experimental Asterisk-In-a-box projects, such as ucAsterisk`
`17:28.24`	`paavum`	`nope`
`17:28.27`	`paavum`	`not at all`
`17:28.29`	`robin_sz`	`hmm`
`17:28.34`	`paavum`	`no activity on the clu`
`17:29.21`	`robin_sz`	`well, there are packets going both ways ... so there should be somehting`
`17:30.01`	`paavum`	`robin_sz --> Maybe I'm missings omething`
`17:30.21`	`paavum`	`I give you username/password and perhaps you could help me?`
`17:30.44`	`robin_sz`	`mmm .. bit busy right now to be honest, children and meals and all that`
`17:32.26`	`paavum`	`robin_sz -> plz, I've been hunting this down for about 2 days nos`
`17:32.27`	`paavum`	`now`
`17:39.17`	`paavum`	`robin_sz?`
`17:39.33`	`paavum`	`robin_sz --> Could you manage to check out the pastebon I made?`
`17:39.47`	`paavum`	`there's what I see on both ends`
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`17:47.54`	`KuJaX`	`fresh install of CentOS and Asterisk. I am able to connect successfully to VoicePulse via their .conf off their website, but I can't get any local phones to register (I even enabled IPTABLES port 5060`
`17:48.08`	`KuJaX`	`Any suggestions?`
`17:48.12`	`Strom_M`	`didnt I tell you to use debian?`
`17:48.27`	`Qwell`	`<Strom_M> use mandriva`
`17:48.28`	`KuJaX`	`Strom_M: Yeah, I installed it and it wouldn't detect the onboard NIC.`
`17:48.51`	`anonymouz666`	`2k/month to work in NY... loool ridiculous`
`17:49.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : You need to forward 5060, 10000-20000 all UDP and enter a number of settings into [general] under sip.conf`
`17:49.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : pastebin that section and show the CLI output of the failed call.`
`17:50.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : And never assume the code sample put on an ITSP's site can be taken verbatim....`
`17:50.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`17:50.02`	`jbot`	`somebody said pb was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`17:50.37`	`KuJaX`	`stopped IPtbales and I could connect to it just fine.`
`17:50.53`	`RahaiL`	`any one know any kind of usb phone that I can use it with asterisk`
`17:50.57`	`RahaiL`	`without softphone`
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`17:52.14`	`QbY`	`What is the current status of chan_agent--is it going to be killed?`
`17:52.23`	`Qwell`	`QbY: no, but read UPGRADE.txt`
`17:53.08`	`anonymouz666`	`Qwell: 1.2 or 1.4 on production enviroment ?`
`17:53.09`	`KuJaX`	`Iptables: http://pastebin.ca/316487`
`17:54.58`	`Sean	`~dundi`
`17:54.59`	`jbot`	`dundi is probably http://www.dundi.com`
`17:55.00`	`KuJaX`	`SIP.CONF: http://pastebin.ca/316489`
`17:55.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : you mean everything works if you disable iptables from filtering?`
`17:55.42`	`Sean	`Hrmp`
`17:55.53`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: Well, not everything, but I could connect and SIP just fine.`
`17:56.09`	`KuJaX`	`via a SIP phone or softphone. only once IPTABLES was set to off.`
`17:56.44`	`Sean	`so if i get this right basicly dundi is a way to reach a phone number over the internet with a shortest and free route right?`
`17:56.47`	`Sean	`or sometihng similar :P?`
`17:56.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : And you need a pile of parameters missing from your pastebin for SIP & NAT to work. set "nat=yes", "canreinvite=no", "localnet=[your network & mask here]", "and enternip=[yourIP]"`
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`17:57.43`	`RahaiL`	`any one know any kind of usb phone that I can use it with asterisk`
`17:57.44`	`RahaiL`	`without softphone`
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`17:59.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`RahaiL : No. there is no USB channel driver... it needs a known interface. You should already know what kinds are supported. Get an ATA.`
`18:00.06`	`drray`	`an Iaxy just works`
`18:00.08`	`tzafrir`	`RahaiL, chan_alsa...`
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`18:00.14`	`muh-die-kuh`	`hi`
`18:00.24`	`muh-die-kuh`	`are there things like atas for isdn, too?`
`18:01.00`	`RahaiL`	`:( so usb phone wont work without softphone`
`18:01.11`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: The ip address of the asterisk server is 192.168.1.154. so for localnetI put "localnet=192.168.1.154=255.255.255.0" ? Also, I don't understand the externip from voip-info.org. What goes here?`
`18:01.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`RahaiL : USB phones are basically just dumb speaker&mic kits`
`18:01.25`	`Qwell`	`RahaiL: not unless the usb is terminated at a NIC internally, and the phone talks SIP`
`18:01.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`RahaiL : they have no brains or protocaols really.`
`18:01.52`	`Grnd-Wire`	`TKD: Good morning! Is there a commandline way to downloading things from Digium's bug database? I can't downloading the metermaid patch using wget, without browsing to the full page first. Is this normal behaviour?`
`18:01.59`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: well, they are sound cards`
`18:02.06`	`RahaiL`	`:( i need something for 98 because I can fint any softphone that support win 98 codec g729`
`18:02.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : "localnet=192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0"`
`18:02.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : you have to put your external (public internet) IP there`
`18:03.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Grnd-Wire : wget usually works for me.`
`18:03.05`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender. Thanks, will put those under [general] in SIP.CONF`
`18:03.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : I know, I'm jsut spelling it out for him :)`
`18:04.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : "My USB phone uses electricity, so can't I just plug it into a 110v socket and have it magically talk to *?!?!"`
`18:05.16`	`Strom_M`	`hahahhaa`
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`18:06.16`	`Grnd-Wire`	`TKD: HAHA - That's awesome..`
`18:07.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, out on a contract.... BBIAB`
`18:08.46`	`Grnd-Wire`	`Strom: So I'm trying to download the metermaid patch with wget.. TKD says that works for him, but it's not working for me at the moment. Do you have any insight?`
`18:08.56`	`Grnd-Wire`	`http://bugs.digium.com/file_download.php?file_id=10350&type=bug`
`18:09.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Grnd-Wire : Ammendment : I have never done if off the BUG TRACKER. I didn't fully see that part...`
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`18:09.23`	`KuJaX`	`D-Fender: When I call in and have to routed to my hardphone extension 130, I can't hear anything. Also when I dial out with my hard phone (or softphone) it goes for about 3 seconds then stopps. IT doesn't hang up, it just audio stops. Any suggestions?`
`18:09.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`gtg.... later`
`18:09.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX : once I'm back.....`
`18:10.08`	`Grnd-Wire`	`ooh, ok .. <sigh>`
`18:10.28`	`KuJaX`	`Thanks for the help d-fender. Chat later,`
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`18:25.46`	`Qwell`	`Grnd-Wire: put it in quotes`
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`18:30.17`	`potsboy`	`hi all, just been playing with 1.4 does autofill=yes only work on stradgy=roundrobin ?`
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`18:39.03`	`EmleyMoor`	`Any clues on what I need to do to get a British-style caller display to work on a Zap channel?`
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`18:44.32`	`Mattwj2005`	`hey guys`
`18:44.40`	`bkruse_home`	`Mattwj2005: wut up`
`18:44.49`	`Qwell`	`bkruse_home: y0`
`18:44.57`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: hey!`
`18:45.18`	`Mattwj2005`	`is Zaptel 1.2.9.1-r1 compatible with Asterisk 1.4.0?`
`18:45.18`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: you didnt go into work yesterday did you?`
`18:45.22`	`Qwell`	`nope`
`18:45.26`	`Qwell`	`why?`
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`18:45.33`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: i thought you said you were headin in`
`18:45.36`	`Qwell`	`nope..`
`18:45.44`	`bkruse_home`	`lol, k`
`18:45.50`	`bkruse_home`	`besides the point, i almost got locked in lol`
`18:45.58`	`Qwell`	`locked in? heh`
`18:46.10`	`bkruse_home`	`the alarm was setting and they were leaving`
`18:46.15`	`Qwell`	`ahh`
`18:46.15`	`bkruse_home`	`and i was like, wait wait!`
`18:46.17`	`bkruse_home`	`barely made it`
`18:46.32`	`Mattwj2005`	`I want to install zaptel using emerge in gentoo but install Asterisk by hand`
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`18:46.37`	`Mattwj2005`	`will it work? :s`
`18:46.49`	`Qwell`	`Mattwj2005: I wouldn't recommend it`
`18:47.17`	`bkruse_home`	`Mattwj2005: it seriously takes like 2 seconds to wget ; make && make install.`
`18:47.25`	`EmleyMoor`	`I get a warning: Jan 14 18:44:13 WARNING[16097]: chan_zap.c:4261 zt_handle_event: Didn't finish Caller-ID spill. Cancelling.`
`18:47.34`	`EmleyMoor`	`... and nothing on my caller display`
`18:47.55`	`Mattwj2005`	`okay sounds good`
`18:48.08`	`EmleyMoor`	`Why would that be?`
`18:48.26`	`Druken`	`Got SIP response 481 "Call leg/transaction does not exist" back from 74.115.109.86, anyone?`
`18:48.50`	`bkruse_home`	`Druken: call leg tells me that you didnt specify another context?`
`18:48.55`	`bkruse_home`	`are you using a callfile to test it?`
`18:49.12`	`Druken`	`to test what? the server isn't trying to make a call....`
`18:49.30`	`bkruse_home`	`Druken: ok........when is this happening then`
`18:49.51`	`Druken`	`no idea, i have a screen or two of them`
`18:50.11`	`bkruse_home`	`herm`
`18:50.12`	`Druken`	`no timestamps on them either`
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`18:50.33`	`Druken`	`could it be from a registering client?`
`18:51.09`	`bkruse_home`	`sounds like POSSIBLY its trying to register`
`18:51.10`	`bkruse_home`	`hold up`
`18:51.15`	`bkruse_home`	`what # was the sip error?`
`18:51.18`	`bkruse_home`	`481?`
`18:51.22`	`bkruse_home`	`let me look in the souce`
`18:51.24`	`bkruse_home`	`sourc*`
`18:51.29`	`bkruse_home`	`s/souce/source/`
`18:52.21`	`bkruse_home`	`so Qwell i think im going starting tackling an SMS type project`
`18:52.46`	`Sean	`make it work with asterisk :D`
`18:52.51`	`potsboy`	`hey Mattwj2005.. emerge asterisk to get the dependancies make crc is enabled in your kernel then install the version of asterisk you want.. I currently am running 1.4`
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`18:53.08`	`Sean	`but it makes no sense tho actualy to think about it since, u cant send a sms to a PSTN line`
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`18:53.19`	`Mattwj2005`	`actually I was thinking about the asterisk depend options`
`18:53.22`	`bkruse_home`	`Druken: it could be from a transfer with Replaces did not work`
`18:53.34`	`n9urk`	`greetings, anyone home? Do I have to have the entireAsterisk Now suite in order to use the AsteriskGUI or is it possible to dl *GUI seperately?`
`18:54.09`	`bkruse_home`	`n9urk: one channel at a time plz, we will talk in the asteriskNOW channel.`
`18:54.11`	`n9urk`	`(sorry, didn't mean to cp that post here)`
`18:54.25`	`bkruse_home`	`;]`
`18:54.30`	`Mattwj2005`	`emerge -o asterisk zaptel`
`18:55.12`	`potsboy`	`the gentoo wiki has a nice explaination of use flags for asterisk`
`18:55.48`	`Mattwj2005`	`thanks for your help potsboy :)`
`18:55.58`	`tdi`	`better use own compiled asterisk`
`18:56.09`	`tdi`	`zaptel, libpri and *`
`18:56.16`	`tdi`	`better compile on your own`
`18:56.21`	`Mattwj2005`	`emerge -o only compiles the dependencies`
`18:56.37`	`Mattwj2005`	`saves some work :)`
`18:56.41`	`potsboy`	`tdi taking about emerge asterisk depends before compile`
`18:57.01`	`tdi`	`potsboy: yes, see the deps`
`18:57.11`	`bkruse_home`	`apt-get build-dep :X`
`18:57.15`	`potsboy`	`i think 2006.1 is still in 1.2.12 or something`
`18:57.25`	`tdi`	`but 'the mighty three' better compile on your own`
`18:57.29`	`potsboy`	`gentoo is slacking off like debain :(`
`18:57.37`	`Mattwj2005`	`yeah it doesn't have Asterisk 1.4 yet`
`18:57.59`	`bkruse_home`	`Druken: could be from a Reinvite that failed`
`18:58.18`	`Mattwj2005`	`yeah but Gentoo doesn't waste many CPU cycles`
`18:58.34`	`Mattwj2005`	`Debian isn't that bad either`
`18:59.04`	`potsboy`	`yep.. but release cycles are getting slooow`
`18:59.16`	`Mattwj2005`	`indeed`
`18:59.54`	`Mattwj2005`	`so many distros......not enough programmers :)`
`19:01.14`	`Mattwj2005`	`Linux release cycles are still a ton better then Windows ;)`
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`19:03.10`	`potsboy`	`only prob with gentoo is sangoma drivers are really screwed and no maintainer :(`
`19:03.48`	`Druken`	`bkruse_home: a transfer? hmm... i know i have a couple extens that goto a seperate server, for a passthrew... wonder if that's it, but there's no calls in progress`
`19:03.59`	`Mattwj2005`	`sangoma drivers?`
`19:04.20`	`bkruse_home`	`not sure, check chan_sip.c`
`19:04.26`	`bkruse_home`	`even if you dont know C well, its well commented`
`19:04.47`	`potsboy`	`wanpipe.. same as digium TEXXXP cards`
`19:04.50`	`Druken`	`hehe i don't know c at all, couldn't even create a hello world program :(`
`19:04.55`	`bkruse_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:05.47`	`Druken`	`bkruse_home: think they are saying the sangoma cards are similar to the digium cards`
`19:06.21`	`bkruse_home`	`similar, because they were an attempt to copy them`
`19:06.34`	`Mattwj2005`	`okay interesting`
`19:06.43`	`bkruse_home`	`its like have a ferrari or driving a fiero with a ferrari body kit`
`19:06.47`	`Druken`	`they work...`
`19:06.58`	`potsboy`	`love digium.. but sangoma has pci-x.. most dell servers (which i only use) are standard pci-x :(`
`19:07.07`	`Mattwj2005`	`I actually have a cheap modem I can use to connect to my phone line`
`19:07.18`	`potsboy`	`i know digium is working on a pci-x card`
`19:07.34`	`bkruse_home`	`Druken: k, you can drive the fiero`
`19:07.36`	`Mattwj2005`	`that is why I need zaptel`
`19:07.48`	`Druken`	`bkruse_home: i have a sangoma card...`
`19:07.48`	`bkruse_home`	`:P`
`19:07.52`	`potsboy`	`Mattwj2005, isdn modem? or intel?`
`19:07.57`	`The_LightSide`	`will digium ever bring out usb based devices?`
`19:08.02`	`potsboy`	`*intel clone`
`19:08.13`	`Qwell`	`The_LightSide: we tried a usb ata once...it...yeah`
`19:08.16`	`Mattwj2005`	`I want to say intel clone`
`19:08.34`	`Mattwj2005`	`I bought it so long ago I forgot what it was :)`
`19:08.39`	`The_LightSide`	`Qwell, i mean in things like a E1 card`
`19:08.42`	`potsboy`	`ok.. thought that chipset was discontinued years ago`
`19:11.59`	`potsboy`	`The_LightSide, E1 over usb.. dont think the kernel will handle that...`
`19:12.30`	`The_LightSide`	`well, 2mb/sec was the USB1 standard`
`19:12.40`	`The_LightSide`	`and the kernel should deal with USB 2`
`19:12.45`	`The_LightSide`	`so y not?`
`19:12.46`	`bkruse_home`	`The_LightSide: you sure about that?`
`19:13.10`	`potsboy`	`hmm, am not a expert and am too lazy to check.. but not through put by clock timing.. the cards go crazy`
`19:13.41`	`The_LightSide`	`bkruse_home, if i remember corectly, USB2 is somethign like 480MB/s`
`19:13.47`	`bkruse_home`	`correct`
`19:13.51`	`potsboy`	`cat /proc/interrupts... made them cards work hard`
`19:13.54`	`bkruse_home`	`but usb 1 @ 2MB/s?`
`19:14.16`	`The_LightSide`	`sorry, it was 12`
`19:14.27`	`bkruse_home`	`right ;]`
`19:14.28`	`bkruse_home`	`gj!`
`19:14.39`	`bkruse_home`	`jbot: The_LightSide++`
`19:15.03`	`Mattwj2005`	`I found out the card was label on eBay as a " Digium Wildcard X100P OEM FXO PCI Card Asterisk PBX"`
`19:15.10`	`bkruse_home`	`lol`
`19:15.19`	`The_LightSide`	`lol, what was the jbot thing?`
`19:16.50`	`The_LightSide`	`but either way, E1 is 2mb/sec`
`19:17.03`	`The_LightSide`	`so even usb1 should cope`
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`19:17.39`	`bkruse_home`	`for 1 span`
`19:17.44`	`bkruse_home`	`quad span usb, woot`
`19:17.45`	`bkruse_home`	`:P`
`19:17.47`	`The_LightSide`	`yes`
`19:18.09`	`The_LightSide`	`mind u...`
`19:18.18`	`potsboy`	`why do you want usb anyway?`
`19:18.28`	`The_LightSide`	`even with overhead, its still less than 12m`
`19:18.29`	`potsboy`	`surely u have slots availible`
`19:19.11`	`The_LightSide`	`sometimes... but for small systems`
`19:19.35`	`potsboy`	`aahhh`
`19:19.43`	`The_LightSide`	`lol, i was just about to make a really stupid comment`
`19:19.58`	`The_LightSide`	`cause then u can have more cards on the system`
`19:20.21`	`Druken`	`usb would be good for a small pbx running off a laptop`
`19:20.35`	`The_LightSide`	`but * can only do 60 calls on a standard p4, right?`
`19:20.47`	`The_LightSide`	`yeah, my father runs a laptop as his server`
`19:21.05`	`perd`	`not very smart!`
`19:21.08`	`potsboy`	`my argument is the clock timing is handed off to the cards.. having the kernel deal with e1 ticks.. would be a huge waste of resources.. if not imposible to be 99.95% accurate`
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`19:22.19`	`The_LightSide`	`potsboy, u are quite possibly correct... i guess we wont know until its been tried`
`19:22.35`	`potsboy`	`true :)`
`19:23.03`	`The_LightSide`	`which for it to fail will be a rather expensive waste of resources and funds`
`19:23.56`	`pder`	`i am having a problem using asterisk with my TDM400P FXO card. if i configure the card with kewlstart, i am unable to dial out. if i configure the line as loopstart it fails to detect remote hangups. can anyone help?`
`19:24.04`	`potsboy`	`am sure some bored geek will engineer it on paper first`
`19:24.27`	`potsboy`	`pder, which country are you in`
`19:24.40`	`pder`	`USA`
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`19:25.15`	`The_LightSide`	`potsboy, im sure`
`19:25.18`	`potsboy`	`hmm, ok dont know, but there is a busy pattern setting which you can set to detect hangup`
`19:25.53`	`The_LightSide`	`tho xorcom have a usb channel bank\`
`19:26.10`	`potsboy`	`not e1 though`
`19:26.19`	`pder`	`potsboy: ideally id like to use kewlstart, because then the remote hangups are detected. however the strange thing is that when i try to dial out the outgoing line goes off the hook just for a second and then immediately hangs up`
`19:26.27`	`nick125_`	`Okay, I'm looking for an inexpensive 2-line FXS (i think that's right, but, my voipineese is a little rusty)`
`19:26.54`	`The_LightSide`	`potsboy, no some other proprietry system`
`19:27.19`	`potsboy`	`pder, best ask someone from the states the card where designed there so i am sure it should work`
`19:27.36`	`potsboy`	`The_LightSide, xorcom only has a analogue bank`
`19:28.15`	`The_LightSide`	`well, ok i guess thats kinda what i meant for digium as well`
`19:28.26`	`fetcher`	`pder: remember that you need to use "fksks" signaling for an FXO port, not "fxoks"`
`19:28.35`	`EmleyMoor`	`fxsks`
`19:28.59`	`fetcher`	`oops, fxsks... typo`
`19:29.01`	`potsboy`	`dont like the xorcoms.. they patch zaptel pretty heavily, so you are locked into "there" lastest zaptel`
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`19:29.14`	`pder`	`fetcher, yeah i know i have that set correctly, because i can receive incoming calls fine. its just dialing out when the line is configured as kewlstart doesnt work`
`19:29.29`	`TripleFFFF`	`any idea on that www url tat was spanish and had all sorts of prompts ?`
`19:30.03`	`The_LightSide`	`potsboy, sure... ill stick to digium, tho i will NEVER buy the TE110P again`
`19:30.04`	`EmleyMoor`	`I'd like to get a British voice packaged for a Debian system`
`19:30.32`	`fetcher`	`nick125: for only two FXS ports, why not use an outboard SIP ATA? Linksys PAP2, etc...`
`19:30.56`	`potsboy`	`The_LightSide, why not the te110p?`
`19:30.59`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: that's sort of what I'm looking for`
`19:31.42`	`The_LightSide`	`potsboy, its giving me endless nonsense`
`19:31.56`	`The_LightSide`	`doesnt like crc4,`
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`19:32.10`	`The_LightSide`	`doesnt work with zaptel 1.2.10 and below`
`19:32.26`	`potsboy`	`crc4 is based on your exchange though`
`19:32.54`	`The_LightSide`	`ok, the E1 terminating equipment was developed by my father`
`19:33.13`	`The_LightSide`	`so i have done some development on * with him`
`19:33.39`	`potsboy`	`cool`
`19:33.39`	`The_LightSide`	`and of all the other pabxs, this is the only crappy card`
`19:33.39`	`fetcher`	`nick125: only drawback is that you have to configure the ATA to match your dialplan, so it knows how many DTMF digits to buffer before sending the call setup message (unless users don't mind dialing # at the end)`
`19:33.44`	`The_LightSide`	`the dual span card is fine, perfect`
`19:33.57`	`The_LightSide`	`no issues at all`
`19:34.01`	`potsboy`	`maybe a old firmware revision?`
`19:34.14`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: hmm, that might be an issue`
`19:34.19`	`pder`	`can the firmware be upgraded on TDM400P?`
`19:34.46`	`The_LightSide`	`potsboy where do i find if there is a newer firmware, and how do i "flash" it?`
`19:35.04`	`potsboy`	`The_LightSide, you dont you send to digium`
`19:35.18`	`The_LightSide`	`yeah, thought so`
`19:36.07`	`potsboy`	`i can just imagine the chaos.. ppl running around with custom firmware, digium would never sleep :)`
`19:36.19`	`The_LightSide`	`the really sad thing is, i dont have a lot of time to work with *, but i still knew more than the local supplier does`
`19:37.03`	`potsboy`	`fortunalty our supplier is part of the asterisk dev team.. knows his business`
`19:37.26`	`The_LightSide`	`u lucky!`
`19:37.35`	`potsboy`	`well extended dev team.. did the speex stuff and the like`
`19:37.47`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: how hard would it be to configure the ata to send the call if it has either 3, 7, 10, or 11 digits (3 for internal calls, 7 for 7 digit dialing w/o area code, 10 w/ area code, and 11 w/ country code)?`
`19:37.57`	`The_LightSide`	`down here in SA things like asterisk have been illegal until about 2 years ago`
`19:38.09`	`The_LightSide`	`as far as i know at any rate`
`19:38.14`	`potsboy`	`The_LightSide, i am from sa.. steve from c-tel`
`19:38.35`	`potsboy`	`proly got from miro in jhb`
`19:38.41`	`The_LightSide`	`nah, pta`
`19:38.51`	`The_LightSide`	`jhb are a bunch of well pricks`
`19:39.10`	`potsboy`	`hmm......`
`19:39.29`	`The_LightSide`	`we bought some wifi phones`
`19:39.38`	`The_LightSide`	`after 2 months not 1 was working`
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`19:39.56`	`The_LightSide`	`we returned them, but they still charged us a handling fee`
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`19:40.33`	`potsboy`	`they are across the road but we have our stuff flown from cpt.. much better service`
`19:40.42`	`potsboy`	`*miro is across`
`19:40.46`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: you can have it wait for a different number of digits depending on the leading digits dialed. So, e.g. with a leading '1' expect 10 more, leading 2-9 expect only seven, leading 011 no maximum (just wait for timeout at the end)`
`19:41.20`	`The_LightSide`	`hmmm... c-tel`
`19:41.24`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: here's the dialplan ("Digit Map") from my pap2v2:`
`19:41.26`	`fetcher`	`*xx\|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxx\|[2-9]xxxxxxT\|[2-9]xxxxxxxxxT\|[69][2-9]xxxxxxxxx\|[69]1[2-9]xxxxxxxxx\|xxxxxxxxxxx.T`
`19:41.41`	`potsboy`	`connection-telecom.com cant go wrong`
`19:41.49`	`The_LightSide`	`do u know of a company called sue's sound/sstelecoms?`
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`19:42.05`	`potsboy`	`nope`
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`19:42.36`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: where 'T' means to wait a shorter than normal interval (confgurable) before timing out at that stage and passing the call through`
`19:42.41`	`potsboy`	`only c-tel and miro have distribution rights`
`19:42.50`	`The_LightSide`	`hmmm a product called anamux or a fctmux?`
`19:42.54`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: what kind of luck do you have with your pap2v2? like it, etc?`
`19:43.58`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: no major issues. It has fewer features than the v1, but runs Linux internally, so you can ssh in after turning that on`
`19:43.59`	`potsboy`	`yep, anamux have installed a few`
`19:44.09`	`potsboy`	`gsm gateways`
`19:44.14`	`nick125_`	`for a second, I was thinking of ordering a grandstream for $45, but, then I remembered how cheap grandstreams were, price and quality`
`19:44.25`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: oh, that's cool.`
`19:44.26`	`The_LightSide`	`ok, thats sstelecoms, and the designer is my father ;p`
`19:44.41`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: what kind of missing features?`
`19:44.46`	`potsboy`	`sweet, good product.. just works`
`19:45.06`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: unfortunately, the configuration is kept in some kind of compressed binary blob to save flash space, so you settings changes still have to be made thorugh the web interface`
`19:45.11`	`The_LightSide`	`dont u love it when things "just work"?`
`19:46.11`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: figures`
`19:46.15`	`potsboy`	`yep.. quick money, you dont want to know what the boss charges to have a anamux connected to * .. robbery compared to how long it takes :)`
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`19:47.24`	`The_LightSide`	`lol, i can well imagine... tho i prefer the fctmux`
`19:47.33`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: where did you get yours?`
`19:49.07`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: someone on eBay. I think it was formerly locked to packet8`
`19:49.25`	`nick125_`	`oh fun`
`19:49.46`	`nick125_`	`how do you unlock a packet8 device anyways?`
`19:50.02`	`fetcher`	`bought on short notice to replace a fried SPA-3000 (zapped by lightning)`
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`19:51.10`	`nick125_`	`they sell packet8 devices here in town, and, if I knew it could be unlocked, I would buy one`
`19:51.15`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: not really sure, as this one had already been unlocked by the seller. Procedures for unlocking a v1 involved flashing it with the "wrong" firmware (Sipura vs. Linksys), then reverting back`
`19:51.58`	`nick125_`	`fetcher: yeah, I have a v1 that I can't unlock`
`19:52.06`	`fetcher`	`nick125_: it probably depends also on the particular version... known "security holes" tend to get fixed in the next update :)`
`19:52.56`	`nick125_`	`the v1 I have runs 3.1.9LSc`
`19:53.09`	`nick125_`	`if only I could unlock that thing..`
`19:53.38`	`nick125_`	`brb`
`19:56.16`	`potsboy`	`The_LightSide, l8r.. am off home`
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`20:12.33`	`TheCops`	`Hi`
`20:14.30`	`TheCops`	`Sometime when I'm taking a line (Zap) I have someone on the line, I think it is the timer between * take the line and receiving the caller ID. it is about 1.5 second maximum. Someone know how to solve it ?`
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`20:16.50`	`riddlebox`	`in asterisk 1.4 can you have any wav file for moh, or does have to be anything specific?`
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`20:28.36`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`can we pass variables from dailplan to agi() and from agi to dialplan?`
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`20:37.27`	`robin_sz`	`ok, so mISDN ... and failing to detect at least some DTMF ...`
`20:38.12`	`robin_sz`	`I looked through the DSP algo, its too hard for my brain to understand`
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`20:44.12`	`TheCops`	`why the asterisk is waiting around 1.5sec before taking the line?`
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`20:46.50`	`Mother`	`greetings`
`20:47.22`	`Mother`	`quick doubt - no matter what I set auth= to in sip.conf, I cannot get Asterisk to not request digest authentication`
`20:47.46`	`Mother`	`(not that I would want it that way in production, it's for research)`
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`20:55.16`	`TheCops`	`Someone have detail about zap timing parameters^`
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`20:58.13`	`DVP_Patrick`	`ello`
`21:00.14`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`can we pass variables from dailplan to agi() and from agi to dialplan?`
`21:04.44`	`tdi`	`yes`
`21:04.48`	`tdi`	`getvariable, setvariable`
`21:04.55`	`tdi`	`is it what you expected?`
`21:08.28`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: can you explain abit?`
`21:08.41`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: like a little example, if possible. Thanks`
`21:08.58`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: like one line example for dialplan or one for agi`
`21:09.15`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: if any web link is available for my question that will be more helpfull`
`21:09.18`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`but i don't know one`
`21:09.28`	`tdi`	`look at glorius voip-info.org`
`21:09.50`	`tdi`	`$agi->get_variable('DIALSTATUS');`
`21:09.57`	`tdi`	`it is from perl agi`
`21:10.02`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: i already tried there and on few other web helps, coudn't find an answer for my question`
`21:10.05`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`okey`
`21:10.41`	`tdi`	`see the agi page on voip-info`
`21:10.47`	`tdi`	`all command are there`
`21:10.53`	`tdi`	`also set and get variable`
`21:10.56`	`tdi`	`an examples`
`21:11.02`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`lemme see`
`21:11.33`	`tdi`	`also try searching for setting variables in dialplan`
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`21:12.48`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: that i know, but actually, i wanna pass some variables from agi to dialplan`
`21:13.09`	`tdi`	`set variable`
`21:13.22`	`tdi`	`and it appears`
`21:13.29`	`tdi`	`as ${VARIABLE}`
`21:13.53`	`tdi`	`i do it all the timw`
`21:13.59`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: can i use my own varibales this way?`
`21:14.07`	`tdi`	`yes yes`
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`21:14.33`	`tdi`	`that is the aim of that`
`21:14.33`	`tdi`	`too`
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`21:15.58`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: okey can i discuss with you one of my serious issue, which is not being resolved for 1 month`
`21:16.18`	`tdi`	`yes, i will try to help you`
`21:16.30`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`tdi: can i /msg ?`
`21:16.41`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`Thanks`
`21:17.04`	`tdi`	`yes`
`21:17.07`	`tdi`	`please`
`21:17.08`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`Thanks`
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`21:36.35`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Dr-Linux\|home: !!!!`
`21:36.55`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`dlynes_laptop: :)`
`21:38.30`	`dlynes_laptop`	`How are you?`
`21:38.34`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Happy ead :)`
`21:39.34`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Well, happy belated ead, anyways :)`
`21:39.57`	`[hC]`	`anyone using asterisk 1.4 in a g729-only scenario?`
`21:40.11`	`[hC]`	`I know with 1.2 you had a number of issues with needing to transcode still (meetme, voicemail, etc)`
`21:48.26`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`dlynes_laptop: i'm fine thanks`
`21:48.27`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`ead?`
`21:48.31`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`aww you mean EID`
`21:48.34`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`Thanks friend`
`21:48.40`	`Dr-Linux\|home`	`merry chrismas to you :)`
`21:49.47`	`dlynes_laptop`	`erm eid`
`21:49.49`	`dlynes_laptop`	`yes :)`
`21:49.56`	`dlynes_laptop`	`didn't know how to spell it :)`
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`21:50.55`	`[hC]`	`dlynes_laptop: what do you guys use for colling cdr's for billing from remote pbx's (say, that have only analog lines) or do you just let them deal w/ their own bills?`
`21:51.43`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: at the current time, we just get them to pay for their own analog lines`
`21:51.48`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: we're not reselling analog lines`
`21:51.53`	`[hC]`	`dlynes_laptop: gotcha.`
`21:52.04`	`[hC]`	`dlynes_laptop: we are.`
`21:52.14`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: However, I'm planning to offer a web interface in the future for them so that they can see which stations made which calls`
`21:52.31`	`[hC]`	`dlynes_laptop: how are ou planning on aggregating the cdr's back to a central spot of yours?`
`21:52.49`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: I don't...all the cdrs are accumulated on our soft-switch`
`21:52.59`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: I take them off of there once a week`
`21:53.06`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: and then import them into my sql database`
`21:53.10`	`[hC]`	`ahhh okay.`
`21:53.18`	`[hC]`	`Yeah thats what im doing right now too`
`21:53.27`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: and then i do monthly billing`
`21:53.28`	`[hC]`	`i would rather it be more real-time and not require manual intervention.`
`21:53.46`	`dlynes_laptop`	`who said anything about requiring manual intervention?`
`21:54.22`	`[hC]`	`you said you take them off once a week and then import them.. I suppose that is scriptable/cronnable...`
`21:54.33`	`dlynes_laptop`	`you can write a cron job to dump out the current csv's, and then restart asterisk`
`21:54.37`	`[hC]`	`I was looking into ways of doing it with either mysql, syslog, or radius`
`21:54.46`	`dlynes_laptop`	`and then another cron job to scp it back to your billing server`
`21:54.50`	`[hC]`	`yeah`
`21:55.28`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Yeah...once we get big enough to have to worry about stuff like that`
`21:55.38`	`dlynes_laptop`	`I'm hoping to just hire someone that knows how to do that stuff`
`21:55.50`	`[hC]`	`yeah..`
`21:55.54`	`[hC]`	`how many staff do you have right now?`
`21:56.00`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Myself and the owner`
`21:56.07`	`dlynes_laptop`	`I handle all the voip stuff`
`21:56.07`	`[hC]`	`ahh yeah same sorta thing as us.`
`21:56.13`	`[hC]`	`3 owners run my company.`
`21:56.15`	`dlynes_laptop`	`The owner handles all the traditional analog stuff`
`21:56.47`	`dlynes_laptop`	`sometimes i help him out with some of the cabling jobs and nortel/panasonic programming jobs, too`
`21:57.05`	`[hC]`	`ah so you guys dont just deal strictly with asterisk then..`
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`21:57.24`	`[hC]`	`ive been wanting to get someone with a lot of traditional experience.. I have a bit, but i dont feel like its enough`
`21:57.30`	`[hC]`	`primarily for troubleshooting.`
`21:59.01`	`DrukenHME`	`anyone know if a spa9001 has a default admin password or an external way to reset it?`
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`22:07.25`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: nah...we deal mostly with analog and digital`
`22:07.32`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[hC]: and we also deal with asterisk`
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`22:21.25`	`nick125_lappy`	`What's the difference between the PAP2-NA and the PAP2T-NA?`
`22:21.51`	`Qwell`	`a T`
`22:22.16`	`Qwell`	`and the latter is more suggestive`
`22:22.43`	`nick125_lappy`	`Ah, I thought there was some big change`
`22:22.50`	`[hC]`	`Haha`
`22:22.51`	`Qwell`	`probably is`
`22:22.53`	`[hC]`	`T-NA.`
`22:23.00`	`Qwell`	`[hC]: I'm glad somebody got it :P`
`22:23.05`	`nick125_lappy`	`lol`
`22:23.07`	`[hC]`	`of course.`
`22:23.38`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: know of people using 7970's with chan_skinny?`
`22:23.50`	`Qwell`	`me, if I had one :p`
`22:24.05`	`[hC]`	`:) I have a ton of them, and have some 'issues' with chan_sccp`
`22:24.10`	`Qwell`	`they don't work right..something is busted with it. Just haven't gotten around to fixing it`
`22:24.15`	`[hC]`	`they like to do things like ring the phone, then crash totally when i answer a call, randomly`
`22:24.26`	`[hC]`	`or, the buttons on the bottom of the screen like to vanish sometimes.`
`22:24.26`	`Qwell`	`with sccp?`
`22:24.33`	`[hC]`	`yeah.`
`22:24.33`	`nick125_lappy`	`$^#$&@$&%^%&@)%@&)%_&@!!! Voipsupply shipping is....wow`
`22:24.50`	`Qwell`	`chan_sccp likes to crash a lot`
`22:24.58`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: would you develop support if i sent you a 7970?`
`22:25.19`	`nick125_lappy`	`Anyone know of a place that has cheaper shipping to the US?`
`22:25.22`	`Qwell`	`shipping from canada would probably be sick`
`22:25.38`	`nick125_lappy`	`$12 for express saver 3 day shipping`
`22:25.42`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: possibly, but i go to the US all the time, i could just take it and ship from there`
`22:25.42`	`Qwell`	`It'd have to be declared at < $100 or whatever`
`22:25.47`	`Qwell`	`ahh`
`22:25.55`	`Qwell`	`shipping it back would be killer too :p`
`22:25.56`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: im only about 40 minutes from the seattle border.`
`22:26.09`	`[hC]`	`i have a US shipping address :)`
`22:26.13`	`[hC]`	`again, right across the border`
`22:26.16`	`Qwell`	`ahh`
`22:26.18`	`[hC]`	`so i can just go pick stuff up`
`22:26.21`	`Qwell`	`might not be so bad then`
`22:26.31`	`[hC]`	`if you're interested in doing it, i'll send you one`
`22:26.40`	`[hC]`	`i have about 3 spares in my office at the moment`
`22:27.05`	`Qwell`	`the next two weeks are gonna be a little busy, but after that should be good`
`22:27.07`	`[hC]`	`i prefer using skinny for cisco stuff, they have way more functionality`
`22:27.12`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`22:27.13`	`[hC]`	`ok.. let me know`
`22:27.20`	`file`	`Qwell!`
`22:27.24`	`Qwell`	`file!`
`22:27.33`	`[hC]`	`even simple things like seeing the numbers that other people are talking to without the need for the manager in asterisk, is great.`
`22:27.35`	`[hC]`	`using hints`
`22:27.47`	`Qwell`	`well, there isn't hint support in chan_skinny yet :(`
`22:27.59`	`file`	`et.`
`22:28.37`	`file`	`erm, yet`
`22:28.38`	`Qwell`	`quite`
`22:28.38`	`[hC]`	`ahh.. i use blf/hints in sccp on my 7970, and 7941's`
`22:28.38`	`[hC]`	`and of course, 7914`
`22:28.38`	`nick125_lappy`	`So...anyone here know of a place that sells the PAP2T-NA that doesn't charge an arm and a leg for shipping?`
`22:28.38`	`Qwell`	`[hC]: tried the 7914 on chan_skinny?`
`22:28.38`	`Qwell`	`the way chan_sccp does it is so friggen stupid`
`22:28.48`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: no, not yet. and yes it is kinda stupid. you define speed dials with hints to look at.`
`22:29.01`	`Qwell`	`well, I mean the way you actually define it`
`22:29.09`	`Qwell`	`model=7914 <- dumb`
`22:29.12`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: i dont use the 7914 day to day lately, so i havent bothered to tinker much with it`
`22:29.31`	`Qwell`	`in chan_skinny, I added addon=7914, heh`
`22:29.51`	`Qwell`	`So, you can define one, or two, or theoretically (if you could hack the firmware...maybe) more`
`22:30.20`	`[hC]`	`hacking the firmware to do more would be cool, but hten someone would need to develop a footstand to support more. :)`
`22:30.27`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`22:30.39`	`Qwell`	`I'd bet that the dual footstand could easily hold more than 2`
`22:31.03`	`[hC]`	`yeah, with a little duct tape, or glue`
`22:31.04`	`[hC]`	`:)`
`22:32.20`	`nick125_lappy`	`Ugh, I can't find any place that has decent shipping prices`
`22:33.10`	`[hC]`	`Qwell: are you guys shipping the hardware g729 card yet?`
`22:33.23`	`Qwell`	`not afaik`
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`22:37.01`	`QuickOrbit`	`~41`
`22:37.08`	`jbot`	`hmm... 41 is a lame number`
`22:37.08`	`[hC]`	`i need to start testing asterisk 1.4 to get ready to deploy it`
`22:37.19`	`QuickOrbit`	`how dare you jbot`
`22:37.21`	`[hC]`	`I'm curious if i can incorporate radius for cdr storage for all my remote clients`
`22:40.11`	`nick125_lappy`	`Ugh, the PAP2T-NA is more expensive then the Grandstream, but, again, the grandstreams are cheap in all ways.`
`22:44.56`	`CrashHD`	`anyone trouble shoot this line for me: exten => dial,1,GotoSubIf($[${ARG9} = t] ? unavailable\|1 : 2)`
`22:45.01`	`CrashHD`	`?`
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`22:47.21`	`CrashHD`	`hah`
`22:47.25`	`CrashHD`	`wrong damn function name`
`22:47.27`	`CrashHD`	`sorry`
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`22:51.11`	`ccvp`	`someone`
`22:51.15`	`ccvp`	`defend your product against this:`
`22:51.16`	`ccvp`	`:)`
`22:51.16`	`ccvp`	`[16:50:47] <nemith> i was really taking a stab at the storage and unscalable nature of asterisk`
`22:51.44`	`Qwell`	`why? He's already made up his mind without doing any research`
`22:52.32`	`nick125_lappy`	`Hmm....I wish I could find a decent incoming DID provider that does per-minute that can provide a DID in 505`
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`22:53.51`	`[hC]`	`i dont even know what 'storage' is referring to, and the unscalable part, i wholeheartedly disagree`
`22:53.55`	`[hC]`	`my design scales extremely well`
`22:54.17`	`[hC]`	`what with the ability to do load balancing and tdmoe especially for digital pstn circuits..`
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`22:56.03`	`nick125_lappy`	`If anyone has any suggestions to finding a decent DID provider with low rates, please let me know`
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`22:57.32`	`DrukenLPY`	`where is 505?`
`22:58.10`	`fetcher`	`nick125: looking for one without a monthly fee?`
`22:59.06`	`nick125_lappy`	`DrukenLPY: New Mexico`
`22:59.13`	`fetcher`	`I use i2telecom aka "Voicestick", which is completely free for inbound, but a little flaky and hard to set up (SIP only, no IAX, needs a cronjob to run "SIP reload" every 45 minutes to keep working)`
`22:59.28`	`nick125_lappy`	`fetcher: Well, maybe a $1-2 monthly fee, but, not including usage`
`23:01.52`	`fetcher`	`http://www.termination.com/services.php#origination <-- looks promising, but I haven't tried them`
`23:02.32`	`fetcher`	`assuming your location qualifies as "Tier 1", whatever that means`
`23:04.03`	`nick125_lappy`	`http://carriers.icall.com/services.php < same thing, basicall`
`23:04.06`	`nick125_lappy`	`*basically`
`23:06.16`	`CrashHD`	`hey fellas`
`23:06.30`	`CrashHD`	`when sending an outbound call via a local extension how can I set the outbound caller id?`
`23:07.00`	`CrashHD`	`my dialout macro shows CALLERID(number) is null`
`23:07.28`	`nick125_lappy`	`Set(CALLERID, Stuffhere), I think (my asterisk skills are a bit rusty)`
`23:07.34`	`CrashHD`	`even though before doing the Dial(LOCAL/##########@OUTBOUND) I set CALLERID(number)`
`23:07.44`	`fetcher`	`CrashHD: exten => XXXX,YY,SetCallerId("Name" <Number>)`
`23:08.08`	`nick125_lappy`	`fetcher: Also, what about termination? I'll need US and Canada mainly, but, decent rates to other countries is a plus. Accepting CC is another plus`
`23:09.14`	`fetcher`	`nick125: I use voipjet.com and voxee.com (1.3c/min & 1.1c/min to US and parts of Europe). Both only do prepaid via Paypal though`
`23:09.26`	`nick125_lappy`	`Eek, I hate paypal.`
`23:10.01`	`fetcher`	`One or both might accept "moneybookers" also`
`23:10.15`	`nick125_lappy`	`iCall wants a copy of the CC and photo ID...eek`
`23:10.39`	`EmleyMoor`	`CrashHD: I use Set(CALLERID(num)=number)`
`23:11.06`	`EmleyMoor`	`(or Set(CALLERID(all)=Name <number>)`
`23:11.41`	`nick125_lappy`	`I can't really get a straight rate from iax.cc, one thing says 1.1c, another says 1.37c for incoming`
`23:13.58`	`CrashHD`	`where would the inbound callerid() be stored?`
`23:14.06`	`CrashHD`	`${CALLERID(num)} ?`
`23:14.33`	`CrashHD`	`because it's empty`
`23:14.34`	`CrashHD`	`even though I obviously have some caller id info inbound`
`23:14.34`	`EmleyMoor`	`No, just (CALLERID(num)`
`23:14.34`	`EmleyMoor`	`)`
`23:14.48`	`CrashHD`	`why not surrounded by {}?`
`23:15.03`	`EmleyMoor`	`Because it's not an ordinary variable`
`23:18.44`	`CrashHD`	`exten => s,1,GotoIf($[${ISNULL(CALLERID(num)) = 0]?route\|1)`
`23:19.19`	`CrashHD`	`does not seem to work`
`23:19.24`	`CrashHD`	`as desired`
`23:19.29`	`CrashHD`	`suggestions?`
`23:22.22`	`fetcher`	`EmleyMoor: is SetCallerId deprecated?`
`23:23.41`	`CrashHD`	`yes`
`23:23.55`	`fetcher`	`CrashHD: I use exten => s,4,GotoIf($["_${CALLERIDNUM}_" = "__"]?100)`
`23:24.07`	`fetcher`	`dunno if that's the best way to do it`
`23:24.47`	`Strom_C`	`note that CALLERIDNUM is deprecated`
`23:25.13`	`CrashHD`	`thanks fetcher`
`23:25.18`	`CrashHD`	`I just put something similar in mine`
`23:25.51`	`CrashHD`	`s,1,GotoIf($[${CALLERID(num)}"null" <> "null"]?route\|1)`
`23:27.37`	`CrashHD`	`oops`
`23:27.39`	`CrashHD`	`!=`
`23:27.42`	`CrashHD`	`not <>`
`23:28.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`CrashHD: you could also just ask GotoIf(${LEN(${CALLERID(num)})}?route\|1)`
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`23:29.16`	`CrashHD`	`nods`
`23:29.22`	`CrashHD`	`ty`
`23:29.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`nonzero = true, zero=false`
`23:31.23`	`CrashHD`	`hey corydon if I set a var before Dial(LOCAL/1111) will the new chan inherit the var when using __?`
`23:32.02`	`CrashHD`	`and if that local extension called a macro would it then be available in the macro?`
`23:39.35`	`nick125_lappy`	`fetcher: By the way, how is voxee.com service quality?`
`23:46.37`	`nick125_lappy`	`Hmm...`
`23:46.50`	`nick125_lappy`	`Damnit, it seems that I only have enough funds to get a grandstream :/`
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