irclog2html for #asterisk on 20070127

`00:00.13`	`SomeOne1`	`what is vonage's ASR?`
`00:00.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`docelm0 : sorry... nada..`
`00:00.56`	`docelm0`	`thanks due.. I will go bug Tier 2 support.. #asterisk-dev.. :)`
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`00:08.20`	`Zorix`	`why is there no list of the configuration files in any document`
`00:08.23`	`Zorix`	`to edit them`
`00:08.32`	`Zorix`	`i have to sift thru makefiles`
`00:09.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`?`
`00:09.46`	`Zorix`	`or do a find`
`00:10.22`	`Zorix`	`there we go /usr/local/etc/asterisk`
`00:12.05`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: how about because it's usually dependent on your system?`
`00:12.11`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: and the default is /etc/asterisk`
`00:12.26`	`Zorix`	`guess freebsd does this`
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`00:12.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dlynes_laptop : That path screams BSD...`
`00:12.32`	`dlynes_laptop`	`SomeOne1: probably about 10% :)`
`00:12.37`	`dlynes_laptop`	`[TK]D-Fender: exactly`
`00:12.54`	`Zorix`	`i had a bsd box figured id check how well it works`
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`00:13.01`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: but if you use freebsd regularly`
`00:13.11`	`Zorix`	`not really.. i use linux regularly`
`00:13.14`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: you should know what the standard location is for ports packages to put their config files in`
`00:13.19`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: ah`
`00:13.27`	`Zorix`	`didnt use ports, the ports didnt have 1.4.0`
`00:13.30`	`Zorix`	`so i compiled by source`
`00:13.43`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: ah...maybe 1.4 has bsd detection code then`
`00:13.55`	`Zorix`	`yea configure detected it`
`00:13.56`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: and sets up config file directories appropriately`
`00:14.23`	`Zorix`	`anyone familiar with asterisk-gui... i think its pretty nice`
`00:14.55`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: try #asterisk-gui for the gui, or #asterisk-now if you want the gui all wrapped up with asterisk into a nice preconfigured linux distribution iso`
`00:15.08`	`Zorix`	`already got it installed`
`00:15.14`	`Zorix`	`and it seems working`
`00:15.24`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: yeah, but those are the two channels appropriate for talking about it`
`00:15.38`	`Zorix`	`fine`
`00:15.39`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Zorix: you won't find many people in this channel other than russellb that actually know anything about it`
`00:16.12`	`dlynes_laptop`	`well, fine`
`00:16.16`	`dlynes_laptop`	`be that way :)`
`00:16.20`	`Zorix`	`hehe`
`00:16.21`	`dlynes_laptop`	`hehehee`
`00:16.34`	`Zorix`	`i just think it looks nice`
`00:16.40`	`dlynes_laptop`	`yeah...probably does`
`00:16.45`	`dlynes_laptop`	`but most of us handcode our config files`
`00:18.28`	`Zorix`	`yea i did before too`
`00:18.37`	`Zorix`	`i dont remember what version i used before`
`00:18.44`	`Zorix`	`i think it was like 1.0 or some really early version`
`00:18.54`	`dlynes_laptop`	`ah yeah`
`00:18.57`	`dlynes_laptop`	`1.0 was quite stable`
`00:19.00`	`dlynes_laptop`	`but zero features`
`00:19.03`	`Zorix`	`yea it was`
`00:19.08`	`riddlebox`	`[TK]D-Fender, which distro releases updates to older versions the longest?`
`00:19.09`	`Zorix`	`this web thing is new to me`
`00:19.20`	`dlynes_laptop`	`1.0 wasn't really even useful to us`
`00:20.11`	`dlynes_laptop`	`man`
`00:20.11`	`russellb`	`1.0 <3`
`00:20.13`	`dlynes_laptop`	`my nips are hard`
`00:22.19`	`russellb`	`and why is that?`
`00:22.21`	`russellb`	`cold?`
`00:22.28`	`Qwell[]`	`happy?`
`00:22.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`excited?`
`00:22.37`	`Zorix`	`can anyone suggest a good softphone to test this thing`
`00:22.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`Well, there's the console driver`
`00:22.50`	`Zorix`	`had one on my pda until it discharged`
`00:23.17`	`russellb`	`heh, yeah, console channel driver is what i use most of the time, especially now that i have one that works on my mac`
`00:23.18`	`riddlebox`	`Zorix, xten x-lite`
`00:23.29`	`Zorix`	`oh yes`
`00:23.33`	`Zorix`	`thanks`
`00:23.41`	`Qwell[]`	`russellb: when you gonna commit that?`
`00:23.42`	`awannabe`	`do you have to configure phones to have a password? or can * just contact the phone with no password at all?`
`00:23.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`russellb: ah, that's why you wrote a new console driver`
`00:23.49`	`russellb`	`yup.`
`00:24.04`	`russellb`	`Qwell[]: i dunno ... it's not complete enough, tested enough ....`
`00:24.08`	`Qwell[]`	`ahh`
`00:24.50`	`dlynes_laptop`	`just a random thought i'd throw out there :p`
`00:25.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`riddlebox : Not sure, but RHEL seems to keep to the line longer than most. Debian on the other handis the king of Slow :)`
`00:26.43`	`riddlebox`	`[TK]D-Fender, I have been put in charge of installing and maintaining a webserver and mailserver at the office and I dont want to always be doing a major upgrade`
`00:28.19`	`hads`	`Run Debian testing, then you just get lots of minor upgrades :)`
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`00:29.39`	`riddlebox`	`yeah, I am not really into fedora or red hat`
`00:30.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`riddlebox : Slackware then :)`
`00:30.44`	`riddlebox`	`[TK]D-Fender, I like Slackware too, and they hardly have updates`
`00:31.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`riddlebox : on the contrary, ther are all sorts of updates, just all very minor.`
`00:31.37`	`riddlebox`	`it has been awhile, been running ubuntu for awhile now`
`00:31.57`	`hads`	`Why not run Ubuntu on the server then if you are used to it?`
`00:32.08`	`Zorix`	`wow i cant remember how to configure x-lite`
`00:32.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hads : Ubuntu is much clsoer to "bleeding edge"....`
`00:32.19`	`Zorix`	`says 404`
`00:32.26`	`hads`	`The best choice is what you are most familiar with.`
`00:32.30`	`riddlebox`	`hads, are they gonna always have a LTS version?`
`00:32.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : That jsut means that you are dialing something that doesn't match on your server`
`00:32.45`	`hads`	`I wouldn't call ubuntu bleeding edge.`
`00:32.58`	`Zorix`	`registration error 404`
`00:33.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hads : I just said much CLOSER.`
`00:33.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : then your user doesn't match`
`00:33.44`	`Zorix`	`for domain i put ip right?`
`00:33.49`	`hads`	`riddlebox: Dapper is supported until 2011, I'd be wanting to upgrade by then.`
`00:33.50`	`Zorix`	`it asks for a user and an authentication user`
`00:34.06`	`riddlebox`	`dapper is supported till 2011? whered you see that at?`
`00:34.24`	`hads`	`[TK]D-Fender: I know. I said I wouldn't call it bleeding edge :)`
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`00:35.25`	`riddlebox`	`haha the creators of Underworld have another warewolf movie out`
`00:35.38`	`hads`	`riddlebox: Let me find an offical link`
`00:37.06`	`Zorix`	`maybe i shouldnt have installed the sample config files`
`00:37.09`	`Zorix`	`says i got 74 extensions`
`00:37.22`	`hads`	`riddlebox: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/606released - third para`
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`00:38.08`	`riddlebox`	`hads, thanks`
`00:38.17`	ezw`	`is it possible to run cisco softphone with asterisk ?`
`00:38.26`	`hads`	`np`
`00:39.28`	`Zorix`	`configuration wasnt so difficult before`
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`00:42.35`	`yassine`	`is there a way to debug which password has been given by the sip client (soft phone) i get wrong password on my asterisk log while im definitly sure i entered the right one at the client`
`00:42.53`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok so to have spliut pri on sangoma`
`00:43.05`	`Bobthehunter`	`i need to have different spans in the sangoma.config ?`
`00:44.27`	`Bobthehunter`	`yassine no`
`00:44.30`	`Bobthehunter`	`its md5 no way`
`00:44.33`	`Bobthehunter`	`change it`
`00:44.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`yassine..`
`00:44.55`	`Bobthehunter`	`make all fields the username..`
`00:45.00`	`Bobthehunter`	`display name = username`
`00:45.03`	`Bobthehunter`	`not other shit`
`00:45.05`	`yassine`	`Bobthehunter, : Secret : <Set>`
`00:45.05`	`yassine`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:45.15`	`Bobthehunter`	`yassine see last comment`
`00:45.27`	`yassine`	`ah okay`
`00:45.31`	`Bobthehunter`	`displayname=username , username=username, auth username=username`
`00:45.35`	`Bobthehunter`	`cal`
`00:45.36`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`00:45.43`	`pids`	`How can I play an annoucment to both parties at the same time upon call connection.`
`00:45.53`	`Bobthehunter`	`plaback`
`00:45.58`	`Bobthehunter`	`check show application dial`
`00:46.01`	`Bobthehunter`	`it tells you`
`00:46.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`SO.. back to my problem..`
`00:46.19`	`Bobthehunter`	`PRI is 1-21 group1 an 22-23 group 2`
`00:46.24`	`dlynes_laptop`	`riddlebox: slackware`
`00:46.27`	`dlynes_laptop`	`riddlebox: :)`
`00:46.29`	`Bobthehunter`	`can i sangoma all of it to 1-23 ? or i need seperating ?`
`00:46.47`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Bobthehunter: 1-23 is fine`
`00:47.05`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmm BUT..`
`00:47.11`	`pids`	`Bobthehunter, That only plays to one leg of the call not both`
`00:47.17`	`Bobthehunter`	`then zapata having 2 groups..i zap show channels and see only 1-21`
`00:48.51`	`dlynes_laptop`	`Bobthehunter: 1-23 if yoiu're only having one group, and you only have one pri`
`00:49.15`	`Zorix`	`can someone link me to a complete install guide thats current`
`00:49.35`	`Bobthehunter`	`1 pri but have one NPA on 1-21 and one NPA on 22-23`
`00:50.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`any idea ?`
`00:50.18`	`Bobthehunter`	`or they shoud mix.. and pri telco routes them as they should`
`00:50.34`	`riddlebox`	`has anyone heard of AMI as a provider?`
`00:50.38`	`dlynes_laptop`	`can't you just have both npas dumped onto all ports?`
`00:51.05`	`Bobthehunter`	`no`
`00:51.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`since i pay for 21 channels in 1 ans 2 chanels in other`
`00:53.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`so i just made 2 spans`
`00:53.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`lets see now`
`00:54.12`	`CrashHD`	`each span needs a dchannel though?`
`00:54.18`	`CrashHD`	`shouldn't it be 1 span`
`00:54.19`	`CrashHD`	`2 groups?`
`00:54.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : its supposed to be 1 span, but split the channels in groups in zapata.conf only.`
`00:54.20`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmm i would think so`
`00:54.28`	`Bobthehunter`	`ah`
`00:54.29`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok`
`00:54.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : I have a client that has 1/2 his PRIfor 1 set of DID's, and the other for others.`
`00:55.04`	`CrashHD`	`shouldn't really matter though`
`00:55.12`	`CrashHD`	`since you aare handling DIDS`
`00:55.27`	`*** part/#asterisk Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
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`00:55.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`well for outbound`
`00:55.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`CrashHD : Does a little when incoming calls will only span a limited # of channels.`
`00:55.47`	`Bobthehunter`	`i woudnt want to send a 602 calls on the 514 trunk`
`00:55.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`no ?`
`00:55.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`CrashHD : its a question of dedicating resources for inbound.`
`00:56.05`	`CrashHD`	`so you have a single pri that terminates to different rate centers?`
`00:56.22`	`CrashHD`	`excuse me, that specific channels terminate to different rate centers?`
`00:56.34`	`Bobthehunter`	`yes`
`00:56.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`that waht i was told`
`00:56.46`	`CrashHD`	`well his Carrier is dedicating the resources to inbound already`
`00:56.58`	`CrashHD`	`1-21 x DIDS 22-23 X dids`
`00:57.08`	`CrashHD`	`you capture the inbound the same`
`00:57.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : ther may be billing reasons to do it one way or the other, but the main reason is to ENSURE that inbound calls for 1 part of the split does not invade on the channels reservedd for the other`
`00:57.19`	`Bobthehunter`	`yes`
`00:57.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`billing too`
`00:57.30`	`Bobthehunter`	`i pay extra for the 2 chanels in other npa`
`00:57.36`	`CrashHD`	`ahh`
`00:57.42`	`Bobthehunter`	`yeah`
`00:57.48`	`CrashHD`	`introlata? or intra?`
`00:57.54`	`CrashHD`	`602`
`00:57.55`	`CrashHD`	`az`
`00:57.57`	`CrashHD`	`ugly down there`
`00:57.57`	`Bobthehunter`	`intra`
`00:57.59`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`00:58.01`	`Bobthehunter`	`actualy`
`00:58.02`	`Bobthehunter`	`no`
`00:58.04`	`CrashHD`	`hah`
`00:58.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`its 514/418`
`00:58.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`montreal and qc`
`00:58.17`	`CrashHD`	`aww`
`00:58.23`	`Bobthehunter`	`group = 1 channel => 1-21 group = 2 channels => 22-23`
`00:58.28`	`Bobthehunter`	`tried this`
`00:58.36`	`Bobthehunter`	`zap show channels 1-21 is shoen`
`00:58.47`	`Bobthehunter`	`ztcfg -vvv says 24 done`
`00:59.12`	`CrashHD`	`good?`
`00:59.25`	`Bobthehunter`	`well.. zap show channes is 1-21`
`00:59.29`	`Bobthehunter`	`i sont see 22-23`
`00:59.43`	`CrashHD`	`pastebin your zapata and zaptel`
`00:59.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : pastebin the zapata, zaptel, and Wanpipe1 please....`
`00:59.54`	`Bobthehunter`	`ouch again lol`
`00:59.58`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok hold on`
`01:00.01`	`CrashHD`	`or repaste url`
`01:00.15`	`CrashHD`	`tk how come when you say it it sounds soo much more....authoritive`
`01:00.16`	`CrashHD`	`HAH`
`01:00.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`http://pastebin.ca/329558`
`01:01.15`	`Bobthehunter`	`except i added no progrees and no busydetect`
`01:01.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`maybe the span= 1,1,0,esf thingy`
`01:01.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : remove those.... no need on PRI`
`01:01.46`	`Bobthehunter`	`yeah removed`
`01:02.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`nice quality`
`01:02.16`	`Bobthehunter`	`madea f ew test calls yet`
`01:02.17`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`01:02.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : now "pri show span 1", and "zap show channels"`
`01:02.28`	`CrashHD`	`enable group 2`
`01:02.53`	`CrashHD`	`un comment the lines lol`
`01:03.26`	`Bobthehunter`	`yeah i did that`
`01:03.30`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok let me refresh`
`01:04.57`	`CrashHD`	`<drum roll>`
`01:05.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`http://pastebin.ca/329767`
`01:05.12`	`CrashHD`	`which sang card you useing?`
`01:05.14`	`CrashHD`	`using?`
`01:05.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`CrashHD : careful.... drums have cymbals.....`
`01:05.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`A102d`
`01:05.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`yes`
`01:05.39`	`CrashHD`	`new firmware?`
`01:05.50`	`Bobthehunter`	`shoud`
`01:05.50`	`CrashHD`	`we are using a couple of 104d's`
`01:05.51`	`Bobthehunter`	`let me check`
`01:05.55`	`CrashHD`	`haven't upgraded the firmware`
`01:06.01`	`CrashHD`	`was wondering how much better it was`
`01:06.10`	`CrashHD`	`(nothing to do with your problem, just a sidebar)`
`01:06.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`Code version: HDLC rev.28`
`01:06.13`	`Bobthehunter`	`?`
`01:06.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : please not you wrote "channel" AND "channels" in zapata....`
`01:06.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`heu`
`01:06.28`	`CrashHD`	`lol`
`01:06.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Consistancy = sanity`
`01:06.33`	`CrashHD`	`grammar`
`01:06.34`	`Bobthehunter`	`suh`
`01:06.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`its channel`
`01:06.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`not channels`
`01:07.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`since the singular got my 21 st up`
`01:07.28`	`Bobthehunter`	`here we go`
`01:07.38`	`Bobthehunter`	`should show the groups lol`
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`01:08.57`	`SomeOne1`	`in VoIP terminology`
`01:08.59`	`SomeOne1`	`what does CLI mean?`
`01:09.16`	`CrashHD`	`it's the interface`
`01:09.21`	`CrashHD`	`~jbot cli`
`01:09.33`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, cli is a Command Line Interface, the best form of interface around, of course Call-Level Interface, originally developed by SQL Access Group, but now known as Microsoft's ODBC standard. an x86 assembly instruction Common Language Infrastructure (See mono or .net)`
`01:09.34`	`CrashHD`	`jbot doesn't love me anymore`
`01:09.38`	`Bobthehunter`	`client... liability interface ;)`
`01:09.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SomeOne1 : can you show how its used in context?`
`01:09.42`	`SomeOne1`	`are you 300% sure its the CLI?`
`01:09.54`	`SomeOne1`	`"==PAK Digital E1 LDI Normal NON CLI everyday Quality route Capacity Available=="`
`01:09.59`	`SomeOne1`	`i mean asterisk CLI`
`01:10.14`	`CrashHD`	`never heard it in that context`
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`01:10.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SomeOne1 : That doesn't say "VoIP" in there anywhere.... says E1 to me...`
`01:10.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SomeOne1 : More likely a general telco term`
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`01:11.59`	`SomeOne1`	`what does it mean in general telecom term?`
`01:12.18`	`CrashHD`	`it means google is your friend`
`01:12.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`some idea. start googling.`
`01:12.23`	`CrashHD`	`and so is wikopedia`
`01:12.27`	`CrashHD`	`or however yous pell it`
`01:12.39`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmmm coool`
`01:12.59`	`Bobthehunter`	`now Presentation: Presentation permitted, user number passed network screening (1) '`
`01:13.01`	`Bobthehunter`	`that ok`
`01:13.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`but shows the BTN PRI number instead of actual callerid passed`
`01:13.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jfgi :)`
`01:13.56`	`Bobthehunter`	`Ext: 1 Progress Description: Inband information or appropriate pattern now available.`
`01:14.00`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmm any idea ?`
`01:14.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : show how you're trying to pass it.`
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`01:14.17`	`madriles`	`hi`
`01:14.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`well pri debug`
`01:14.50`	`Bobthehunter`	`says... that Display (len=10) Charset: 31 [ Biob ]`
`01:14.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : Please show the complete CLI output of the call, including where you figure you're setting CID in the first place, and heck... include PRI debug... why not..`
`01:15.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`01:15.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:15.35`	`Bobthehunter`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:15.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`it shows on pri messaging`
`01:15.42`	`Bobthehunter`	`to the pri`
`01:15.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : C'mon... PASTEBIN.`
`01:15.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : thoe WHOLE thing please :)`
`01:16.00`	`Bobthehunter`	`kk`
`01:16.01`	`Bobthehunter`	`hold`
`01:16.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`ill put noop\s`
`01:16.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : its not that we don't trust you ..... well .... actually that about sums it up ;)`
`01:16.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : forget NoOps... we'll filter through`
`01:16.57`	`Bobthehunter`	`well i wanne be sure but still show in pri debug`
`01:16.59`	`Bobthehunter`	`hold`
`01:17.15`	`madriles`	`why need transcoding when sip call out to iax2 trunk have g729 at two end, only changeing protocols`
`01:19.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`madriles : You shouldn't. pastebin the configs on both side, the CLI output of the call with IAX debug on.`
`01:19.33`	`madriles`	`* show error.. can't trancode because not g729 license`
`01:19.55`	`CrashHD`	`you need to have g729 licenses installed anywhere a system is talking to the channel`
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`01:20.44`	`madriles`	`i'm only use * for translate from sip to iax2`
`01:21.19`	`Bobthehunter`	`http://pastebin.ca/329782`
`01:21.23`	`madriles`	`the terminals conected have g729 hardcoded`
`01:21.26`	`Bobthehunter`	`full deug`
`01:21.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`madriles : Please provide the output requested.....`
`01:21.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`01:21.40`	`jbot`	`[pb] a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`01:22.01`	`madriles`	`k`
`01:22.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : I don't see YOU setting the CID in there.... you should be doing this BEFORE you dial....`
`01:22.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`is that waht you wanted to see ?`
`01:22.32`	`Bobthehunter`	`well first line NoOp ${CALLERID}`
`01:22.35`	`Zorix`	`are there any better free web config tools for asterisk`
`01:22.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`its passed from another box`
`01:22.57`	`Bobthehunter`	`actualy is set on freswitch then pased to box A , then to here`
`01:23.32`	`Bobthehunter`	`but the fact that THE pri says./ Presentation: Presentation permitted, user number passed network screening (1) '4189481111' ] should be fine no ?`
`01:24.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : Does look good.... thats what you are expecting, no?`
`01:24.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : Better than what?`
`01:24.29`	`Zorix`	`asterisk-gui`
`01:24.36`	`Bobthehunter`	`wel lim getting the Primary Cascade number of the proi`
`01:24.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`meaning im not overwriting it`
`01:25.30`	`CrashHD`	`should call the carrier and see if they are overwriting it`
`01:25.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : you mean the CID doesn't show up as listed?`
`01:25.30`	`Bobthehunter`	`that might be`
`01:25.30`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmm`
`01:25.34`	`Bobthehunter`	`shows up as the pri main number.. or RESPORG #`
`01:26.01`	`Bobthehunter`	`prilocaldialplan=national`
`01:26.03`	`Bobthehunter`	`maybe i need`
`01:26.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`PRI Local Dialplan: Only RARELY used for PRI (sets the calling number's numbering plan)`
`01:26.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ok, I've got to go, but good luck, and keep at it.`
`01:26.53`	`Bobthehunter`	`willl do thanks`
`01:27.04`	`CrashHD`	`I have switchtype = national`
`01:27.09`	`CrashHD`	`and that was all I needed`
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`01:28.18`	`CrashHD`	`under [channels] of /etc/zapata.conf`
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`01:29.08`	`CrashHD`	`also I took out callerid=asreceived`
`01:30.09`	`Bobthehunter`	`ah`
`01:30.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`waht tdoes that change ?`
`01:30.35`	`CrashHD`	`no clue but it sounds relevant?`
`01:30.36`	`Bobthehunter`	`usecallerid = yes`
`01:30.36`	`CrashHD`	`lol`
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`01:30.50`	`CrashHD`	`you'll find its all about trying things`
`01:30.52`	`CrashHD`	`and figuring it out`
`01:31.01`	`CrashHD`	`especially the more you get in to asterisk`
`01:31.03`	`Bobthehunter`	`same`
`01:31.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`01:31.24`	`Bobthehunter`	`i can do 7 digit dialing in group 2 so that worked well`
`01:33.34`	`CrashHD`	`I implemented 11 across all of our switches`
`01:33.41`	`CrashHD`	`made it easier to implement on a large scale`
`01:33.51`	`CrashHD`	`and I use asterisk to input the extra digits for user ease`
`01:34.01`	`CrashHD`	`but the trunks always get 1+`
`01:34.09`	`Bobthehunter`	`yeah well soemplaces if you dial the area code here htey charge long distance`
`01:34.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`so`
`01:34.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`01:34.14`	`ta^3`	`file: I just answered your comment on bug #8890, thanks :)`
`01:36.52`	`luke-jr`	`anyone want to play freeciv?`
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`01:40.42`	`littleball`	`hello, i am using mac computer with telephone phone line socket. Is this FXO interface already? can i use it to test asterisk functions?`
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`01:50.33`	`Nugget`	`no, that's not an FXO interface.`
`01:50.58`	`littleball`	`is it possible to make outgoing calls from mac`
`01:51.00`	`littleball`	`Nugget`
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`01:51.27`	`Nugget`	`not over a phone line, no. there are several soft phone applications for os x which could be used to connect to asterisk as stations.`
`01:52.27`	`littleball`	`Nugget, can you induce such station software?`
`01:52.48`	`Nugget`	`if you just want to fool with asterisk, send $10 or $20 to one of the countless voip providers that exist on the net and use that. it's completely equivalent to an analog phone interface for just fiddling around, and not too far from it for real use.`
`01:53.21`	`littleball`	`Nugget, i am not doing voip`
`01:53.35`	`Nugget`	`I thought you said you wanted to test asterisk.`
`01:53.37`	`littleball`	`but try to test fixed line sms`
`01:53.52`	`littleball`	`yes`
`01:53.56`	`Nugget`	`I dunno anything about that, beyond the knowledge that the modem in your mac won't help.`
`01:53.57`	`littleball`	`asterisk fix line sms feature`
`01:54.09`	`littleball`	`it is modem`
`01:54.24`	`littleball`	`n/m. let me try it out myself`
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`01:56.15`	`Nugget`	`It's not going to do anything for you.`
`01:58.30`	`hardwire`	`hmm..`
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`02:14.47`	`IOscanner`	`Where can I view agent logins and log offs`
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`02:14.59`	`mofo-x`	`hey guys, anyone around?`
`02:15.11`	`PBX-Nick`	`Me.`
`02:15.20`	`mofo-x`	`Anyone happen to have flite working with 1.4? :P`
`02:15.38`	`PBX-Nick`	`Not Me. :-)`
`02:15.49`	`IOscanner`	`nope`
`02:16.38`	`mofo-x`	`I found one build supposed to work, but it requires rtld hash, I can't get it installed for centos.. I just want a random 'fortune' when they dial an extension`
`02:23.02`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`mofo-x, what do you mean by "build"?`
`02:23.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`binary RPM packages? If so: what is your distro (centos4?) and which packages exactly did you use?`
`02:28.21`	`mofo-x`	`packages for flite or rtld?`
`02:28.37`	`mofo-x`	`and yes I meant one rpm was supposed to work`
`02:28.59`	`mofo-x`	`this is the rpm I am trying to use now, but requires rtld`
`02:29.07`	`mofo-x`	`it has references to being built for 1.4`
`02:29.08`	`mofo-x`	`http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/sourceforge/d/di/dialogpalette/asterisk-flite-0.5-1.fc6.i386.html`
`02:29.41`	`mofo-x`	`I first tried the main instructions from nerdvittles but I get an error when it loads the module in asterisk`
`02:30.02`	`mofo-x`	`loader.c:362 load_dynamic_module: Error loading module 'flite': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/flite.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory`
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`03:10.56`	`BOLIVIAN`	`is there a harware to control call duration? something like a card to plug to the pc and that includes reverse polarity_`
`03:10.57`	`BOLIVIAN`	`?`
`03:11.59`	`hardwire`	`you want to pick up the hook?`
`03:12.04`	`hardwire`	`I'd use a modem :)`
`03:12.41`	`hardwire`	`send ATH1 to it`
`03:13.02`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: does that help?`
`03:13.08`	`hardwire`	`hell I can sell you a modem :)`
`03:13.59`	`BOLIVIAN`	`ath1?`
`03:14.18`	`BOLIVIAN`	`modem include reverse polarity?`
`03:14.26`	`hardwire`	`modem can pick up the line`
`03:14.43`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i want to rent my land phone line to the public`
`03:14.55`	`BOLIVIAN`	`and i need something to just control time`
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`03:15.04`	`BOLIVIAN`	`so i can know how to charge him`
`03:15.10`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: what kind of hardware do you have already?`
`03:15.15`	`BOLIVIAN`	`an ATA`
`03:15.20`	`hardwire`	`ok`
`03:15.29`	`hardwire`	`and you have the ATA going to a voip provider?`
`03:15.35`	`BOLIVIAN`	`but thats for international calls not for locals or cel phones`
`03:15.42`	`hardwire`	`ah`
`03:15.49`	`BOLIVIAN`	`yes ppl here will use that only for international calls`
`03:15.52`	`hardwire`	`I would buy another ATA that has an FXS and FXO`
`03:15.55`	`hardwire`	`just happens I have one :)`
`03:16.06`	`hardwire`	`and then you should buy a little machine to run asterisk with`
`03:16.11`	`hardwire`	`just so happens I have one of those too`
`03:16.23`	`hardwire`	`and asterisk can use a timeout to hang up after so long`
`03:16.27`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i have an ata with those 2 ports`
`03:16.35`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: then you should be set`
`03:16.40`	`hardwire`	`just make asterisk do all the work`
`03:16.42`	`hardwire`	`no hardware needed`
`03:16.51`	`BOLIVIAN`	`what about the polarity_`
`03:16.52`	`BOLIVIAN`	`?`
`03:17.09`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: for the sake of this conversation forget there is polarity.`
`03:17.29`	`hardwire`	`they dial a number on the FXS side of your ATA`
`03:17.35`	`hardwire`	`it sends that to asterisk via SIP`
`03:17.50`	`hardwire`	`asterisk uses its dialplan and makes the call go through on the FXO side of your ATA`
`03:18.00`	`hardwire`	`and then asterisk controls the call duration`
`03:18.17`	`BOLIVIAN`	`so i just need to donwload asterisk _`
`03:18.18`	`BOLIVIAN`	`?`
`03:18.28`	`hardwire`	`yes`
`03:18.31`	`BOLIVIAN`	`but how would be the things plugged?`
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`03:19.01`	`hardwire`	`Phone -> FXS -> Network -> Asterisk -> Network -> FXO -> Phone Company`
`03:19.58`	`hardwire`	`we printed a bunch of ID cards once and laminated them`
`03:20.07`	`hardwire`	`then handed them out to the public with their address and billing info`
`03:20.23`	`hardwire`	`they used the PIN on the card to make calls`
`03:20.28`	`BOLIVIAN`	`in bolivia we dont have id cards machines`
`03:20.36`	`hardwire`	`neither did I`
`03:20.37`	`BOLIVIAN`	`its expensive that equipment i think`
`03:20.41`	`hardwire`	`we had printers`
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`03:21.00`	`BOLIVIAN`	`o so just generate random numbers`
`03:21.00`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: fly me out there, I will set it all up :)`
`03:21.05`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: basically`
`03:21.09`	`hardwire`	`we made it more complicated actually`
`03:21.13`	`BOLIVIAN`	`haha i can give u my home for a week`
`03:21.27`	`BOLIVIAN`	`u in usa?`
`03:21.30`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: more life experience?`
`03:21.31`	`hardwire`	`please!`
`03:21.44`	`hardwire`	`you can come to Alaska and freeze your little tuki bird off.`
`03:22.02`	`BOLIVIAN`	`give me your msn instead`
`03:22.17`	`BOLIVIAN`	`please`
`03:22.25`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i wont bother u all the time , just to set his`
`03:22.26`	`hardwire`	`I am not an M user.`
`03:22.27`	`Nugget`	`screw that. It's 13C here in Texas and I think that's waaaaaay too cold.`
`03:22.27`	`BOLIVIAN`	`this`
`03:22.38`	`hardwire`	`you can email me at hardwire @ bogomip dot com`
`03:22.53`	`BOLIVIAN`	`thanks i will write it down`
`03:22.53`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: who the fuck uses C in the US?`
`03:23.04`	`Nugget`	`Me, I guess. Who the fuck is asking?`
`03:23.05`	`hardwire`	`scientists and geeks, thats who`
`03:23.14`	`BOLIVIAN`	`mezicans too`
`03:23.16`	`hardwire`	`haha`
`03:23.17`	`hardwire`	`true!`
`03:23.18`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`03:23.20`	`hardwire`	`lots of mexicans`
`03:23.28`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: where in TX?`
`03:23.35`	`Nugget`	`Austin.`
`03:23.38`	`hardwire`	`Yay`
`03:23.48`	`hardwire`	`my g/f lived there for a long stretch`
`03:24.16`	`hardwire`	`I should be headed that way for more reunions at some point`
`03:24.16`	`Nugget`	`I love it. Noplace else in the States I'd rather live.`
`03:24.16`	`hardwire`	`I said that about colorado`
`03:24.22`	`hardwire`	`and then I got so bored I moved`
`03:24.26`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`03:24.40`	`hardwire`	`I was born there, so I felt inclined to feel that way`
`03:24.52`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: Are you a bolivian by choice?`
`03:24.54`	`file`	`Nugget: slacker!`
`03:24.57`	`hardwire`	`or did you for some reason find your way there?`
`03:25.02`	`Nugget`	`I'm a notslacker now!`
`03:25.08`	`BOLIVIAN`	`if i go to usa, it would be an small town full of blond blue eyed girls and that might be iowa or nebraska`
`03:25.10`	`file`	`Nugget: lame`
`03:25.14`	`Nugget`	`Which is exactly like being a slacker, but with more money in the bank.`
`03:25.20`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: corn fed blondes?`
`03:25.23`	`hardwire`	`hah`
`03:25.42`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: its a nice fantasy :)`
`03:25.59`	`BOLIVIAN`	`yeah cause its hard to get there`
`03:26.04`	`BOLIVIAN`	`and even harder to get the greeen card`
`03:26.20`	`hardwire`	`just sneak in`
`03:26.22`	`hardwire`	`everybody else does`
`03:26.49`	`BOLIVIAN`	`u mean through the frontier?`
`03:27.01`	`hardwire`	`I dunno! Whats the frontier?`
`03:27.02`	`BOLIVIAN`	`some farmers from arizona can shoot me`
`03:27.17`	`BOLIVIAN`	`can canadians too`
`03:27.26`	`BOLIVIAN`	`the solution is to marry an american here`
`03:27.33`	`hardwire`	`I work at the Port of Anchorage in Alaska`
`03:27.36`	`hardwire`	`I will sneak you in :)`
`03:27.39`	`BOLIVIAN`	`haha`
`03:27.40`	`hardwire`	`just start swimming`
`03:27.49`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i should be disguised as a pinguin`
`03:27.57`	`hardwire`	`sure!`
`03:28.01`	`hardwire`	`wouldn't that be a sight`
`03:28.09`	`hardwire`	`African penguins showing up in Alaska`
`03:28.26`	`BOLIVIAN`	`if i cant make money here in 2 years i will go there`
`03:28.46`	`hardwire`	`what are you doing now, other than renting your phone`
`03:28.55`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i have a cybercafe`
`03:29.00`	`hardwire`	`sweet`
`03:29.04`	`hardwire`	`you gonna put the phone there?`
`03:29.08`	`BOLIVIAN`	`yes`
`03:29.11`	`hardwire`	`nice`
`03:29.24`	`hardwire`	`yeh just print up some ID cards and have people fill out info`
`03:29.54`	`BOLIVIAN`	`whats yer name`
`03:29.55`	`hardwire`	`then when they pick up the phone and dial their pin it will give them dialtone via DISA`
`03:29.59`	`hardwire`	`unless there is another message`
`03:30.00`	`BOLIVIAN`	`just in case mine is jimmy`
`03:30.08`	`hardwire`	`I am Shane the Allmighty`
`03:30.17`	`hardwire`	`Son of some HP Engineer`
`03:30.29`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hp? hewlet packard?`
`03:30.32`	`hardwire`	`yeh`
`03:30.35`	`hardwire`	`he is a geek`
`03:30.47`	`hardwire`	`I broke my cherry on an HP-UX machine`
`03:30.47`	`BOLIVIAN`	`is that the same as guru`
`03:30.49`	`mofo-x`	`Anyone have good experience with festival? I am trying to figure out a way to pipe fortune through it`
`03:31.10`	`hardwire`	`geeks you feed sugar too and they do things for you, gurus demand sacrifice.`
`03:31.22`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hah`
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`03:31.40`	`Nugget`	`mofo-x: festival is slightly better quality than hooking up a speak-n-spell to your machine. :)`
`03:31.42`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: feel free to email me`
`03:31.46`	`hardwire`	`I need a pen pal anyways`
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`03:32.03`	`littleball`	`hello, i want to make outgoing call through my mac computer which telephony slot(connect to normal phone line).`
`03:32.21`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i will`
`03:32.26`	`BOLIVIAN`	`thanks`
`03:32.32`	`littleball`	`is it possible to make calls through asterisk by pluging my telephone line on the mac?`
`03:32.37`	`mofo-x`	`Nugget: Well I wouldn't exactly say that I require anything better to pump a unix fortune through an extension ;P`
`03:32.50`	`hardwire`	`littleball: what kind of modem is it?`
`03:33.12`	`mofo-x`	`littleball: You are better off setting up asterisk for sip use and then using eyebeam or x-lite ;P`
`03:33.24`	`hardwire`	`definatly`
`03:33.31`	`hardwire`	`since it has a mic and speakers already`
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`03:33.37`	`littleball`	`hardwire, it is buildin in the mac`
`03:33.40`	`littleball`	`i need to check`
`03:33.42`	`littleball`	`why?`
`03:33.59`	`hardwire`	`littleball: well support for telephony over modems mostly sucks`
`03:34.08`	`littleball`	`mofo-x, i need this feature. I can make calls through sip`
`03:34.08`	`hardwire`	`you should do like mofo-x says`
`03:34.28`	`hardwire`	`littleball: you need to make calls through your telephone line right?`
`03:34.31`	`littleball`	`i have special reason. not make outging calls`
`03:34.37`	`littleball`	`yes`
`03:34.39`	`mofo-x`	`littleball: I don't understand why you want to use the modem in your computer`
`03:34.40`	`hardwire`	`or intercept`
`03:34.40`	`hardwire`	`either way`
`03:34.46`	`littleball`	`i want to make calls through my telephne line`
`03:34.47`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: cheap!`
`03:34.47`	`mofo-x`	`you would need software to interface with it anyway`
`03:34.58`	`mofo-x`	`littleball: then where does asterisk come in?`
`03:35.00`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: I wanted to use my modem to do it`
`03:35.03`	`mofo-x`	`hardwire: SIP is cheaper`
`03:35.05`	`hardwire`	`cause I didn't want to pay a lot of money`
`03:35.13`	`littleball`	`the reason is that i want to use fix line to send sms (app_sms of asterisk)`
`03:35.14`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: well I already had the modem :)`
`03:35.28`	`hardwire`	`and In eeded to make an answering machine or a pstn to sip gateway`
`03:35.29`	`mofo-x`	`x-lite is free?`
`03:35.33`	`hardwire`	`I eventually bought what I needed`
`03:35.44`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: to talk to telephone line`
`03:35.47`	`hardwire`	`telephone line in my house`
`03:35.48`	`mofo-x`	`You want to run the asterisk server on your mac, and use the phone line that way?`
`03:35.54`	`littleball`	`yes`
`03:35.59`	`hardwire`	`not somebody elses house`
`03:36.14`	`littleball`	`asterisk -->modem phone line -->outgoing calls`
`03:36.15`	`mofo-x`	`you will need an FXO card. not possible on mac without buying usb`
`03:36.35`	`mofo-x`	`Ebay, x100p PCI install asterisk on linux`
`03:36.41`	`hardwire`	`littleball: I do however have a special on FXO/FXS SIP devices :)`
`03:36.49`	`hardwire`	`and an x100p`
`03:36.59`	`mofo-x`	`hardwire: Mine has to much static, I hate it`
`03:37.01`	`mofo-x`	`:)`
`03:37.11`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: yeh i wasn't too impressed`
`03:37.37`	`mofo-x`	`littleball: Your mac does not have a PCI slot, so you cannot use the X100P card in it`
`03:37.42`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: and it wasn't like little chipmunks chewing on your telco box?`
`03:37.49`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: your no fun`
`03:37.52`	`mofo-x`	`you will have to install Asterisk on a linux box and use an x100p (ebay around 20usd)`
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`03:37.59`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`03:38.17`	`hardwire`	`well I have an SPA-3000 I can get rid of for $35.00 no problem`
`03:38.32`	`hardwire`	`that would give littleball everything he needed and then some`
`03:38.33`	`mofo-x`	`TDM400P :)`
`03:38.39`	`Bobthehunter`	`i want it`
`03:38.41`	`hardwire`	`PCI!`
`03:39.00`	`Qwell`	`$35?`
`03:39.00`	`hardwire`	`Bobthehunter: you can't have it.. little ball is a mac user so he gets special rights for being so trendy`
`03:39.08`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`03:39.13`	`Bobthehunter`	`im a macuser tooo`
`03:39.20`	`hardwire`	`I don't believe you`
`03:39.24`	`Bobthehunter`	`where do i send it ;)`
`03:39.25`	`littleball`	`i do think there should have software fxo device.`
`03:39.25`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok`
`03:39.26`	`littleball`	`right?`
`03:39.32`	`mofo-x`	`no`
`03:39.34`	`Qwell`	`littleball: umm`
`03:39.35`	`Qwell`	`how?`
`03:39.43`	`hardwire`	`littleball: eh.`
`03:39.47`	`Qwell`	`I mean...I guess you could`
`03:39.48`	`mofo-x`	`littleball: FXO is hardware.`
`03:39.54`	`Qwell`	`but it would be all...stupid`
`03:39.57`	`mofo-x`	`Qwell: pls don't confuse him :)`
`03:40.04`	`littleball`	`Qwell, i need to make calls through mac telephony line on asterisk. is it possible?`
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`03:40.12`	`Qwell`	`littleball: if you write drivers`
`03:40.13`	`hardwire`	`qwell: how fast can you pulse a parallel port?`
`03:40.15`	`mofo-x`	`littleball: short answer no`
`03:40.15`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`03:40.24`	`hardwire`	`littleball: no`
`03:40.29`	`hardwire`	`ahem`
`03:40.30`	`hardwire`	`NO`
`03:40.30`	`Qwell`	`hardwire: well, I was thinking through some ppp app or something :p`
`03:40.37`	`hardwire`	`weird`
`03:40.39`	`Qwell`	`like I said, it'd be all...stupid`
`03:40.48`	`mofo-x`	`although, if you have a modem in your mac, why not plug it into the phone line and just use a dialer program? why asterisk`
`03:41.03`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: cause it doesn't do anything :)`
`03:41.04`	`hardwire`	`thats why`
`03:41.04`	`littleball`	`Qwell, basically, i want to test fixed line sms receiving`
`03:41.12`	`hardwire`	`littleball: ok`
`03:41.22`	`hardwire`	`your modem could probably do that`
`03:41.22`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`03:41.34`	`hardwire`	`if you just happened to know how to rewrite its firmware`
`03:41.40`	`hardwire`	`then yeh totally possible`
`03:41.45`	`mofo-x`	`littleball: Do what I said, grab a crappy PC, install asterisk, and buy an X100P from ebay they are $20 USD`
`03:41.49`	`littleball`	`i have E1/PRI running with private caller id enabled with the operator. So i dont want them to change the configuration before i confirm it work`
`03:41.50`	`littleball`	`s`
`03:41.59`	`mofo-x`	`it is an FXO card (that looks like a modem, dont get them mixed up)`
`03:42.02`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: you are more persistant than I am it seems!`
`03:42.07`	`littleball`	`so, just want to test it on my mac`
`03:42.10`	`littleball`	`that is all.`
`03:42.20`	`hardwire`	`littleball: can you draw him a diagram?`
`03:42.30`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`03:42.33`	`hardwire`	`make sure not to include a linux box in any of it`
`03:42.46`	`mofo-x`	`Qwell: Any idea on how I can pipe the unix fortune command through festival?`
`03:42.49`	`littleball`	`n/m, i have no x100p in hand. :-)`
`03:42.56`	`Qwell`	`mofo-x: fortune \| saytext`
`03:42.59`	`mofo-x`	`ebay 20 USD :)`
`03:43.02`	`hardwire`	`littleball: how much you pay!`
`03:43.03`	`Qwell`	`or text2wav`
`03:43.09`	`littleball`	`it needed to be ship to me`
`03:43.17`	`hardwire`	`HOW MUCH YOU PAY!`
`03:43.30`	`littleball`	`time consuming. i would like to open my PRI channel caller id and test on Monday then`
`03:43.46`	`hardwire`	`littleball: I actually do want a diagram`
`03:43.50`	`hardwire`	`you have a PRI`
`03:43.52`	`hardwire`	`a modem`
`03:43.54`	`hardwire`	`a telephone line`
`03:43.55`	`hardwire`	`and a mac`
`03:43.59`	`hardwire`	`I am really curious`
`03:44.14`	`littleball`	`a modem is only to simulate my PRI incoming sms. because currently my PRI callerid is disabled`
`03:44.26`	`hardwire`	`littleball: ok`
`03:44.40`	`hardwire`	`how do you interface the PRI to the mac?`
`03:44.42`	`littleball`	`PRI is a running system and i don't want to interrupt it`
`03:44.48`	`littleball`	`forget PRI`
`03:44.51`	`hardwire`	`oh! x86 I presume?`
`03:44.56`	`littleball`	`PRI is runing on linux`
`03:45.00`	`hardwire`	`now we are back in sane land`
`03:45.05`	`mofo-x`	`Qwell: I am just not getting it, do I have to pipe it through an AGI script?`
`03:45.07`	`hardwire`	`how are you interpereting the SMS on the PRI?`
`03:45.10`	`littleball`	`i just want to use my mac to test`
`03:45.21`	`hardwire`	`littleball: you need to know the model of the modem first`
`03:45.26`	`littleball`	`hardwire, read app_sms`
`03:45.34`	`hardwire`	`littleball: no shit..`
`03:45.43`	`hardwire`	`so it actually opens a voice channel?`
`03:45.55`	`littleball`	`yes`
`03:46.08`	`hardwire`	`I just assumed that some SMS was like psychic mode on your telephone line`
`03:46.22`	`hardwire`	`just some funked modulation out of band`
`03:46.27`	`mofo-x`	`So you have a PRI going into a linux box?`
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`03:46.36`	`hardwire`	`littleball: you are in europe somewhere then right?`
`03:46.40`	`littleball`	`ys. never mind. i try to fix myself`
`03:46.41`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: drop it`
`03:46.48`	`hardwire`	`littleball: whats the model on the modem?!`
`03:46.56`	`PMantis`	`Hello. I just compiled asterisk 1.2.14... I now have this: "Music class default requested but no musiconhold loaded" What did I miss?`
`03:47.03`	`hardwire`	`PMantis: this isn't a good time.`
`03:47.08`	`Nugget`	`You missed the fact that 1.4.0 is out. :)`
`03:47.13`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`03:47.30`	`PMantis`	`Nugget, I don't want 1.4.0`
`03:47.38`	`PMantis`	`Not for this server. :)`
`03:47.48`	`hardwire`	`got any goats?`
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`03:48.20`	`mofo-x`	`PMantis: From the looks of it you are specifing somewhere the type of music class to use for an extension/MOH but you do not have MOH enabled`
`03:48.24`	`PMantis`	`hardwire, Not a good time? You're the only one that can help in this channel? :)`
`03:48.30`	`hardwire`	`obviously.`
`03:48.32`	`littleball`	`http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_6057.html`
`03:48.39`	`Nugget`	`I think it means "no musiconhold loaded".`
`03:48.48`	`Nugget`	`if only the error message said that.`
`03:49.04`	`hardwire`	`somewhere in your dialplan or in your musiconhold conf there is a class being referenced`
`03:49.13`	`hardwire`	`and no musiconhold app is installed`
`03:49.17`	`littleball`	`hardwire , mac modem should not be a problem`
`03:49.26`	`littleball`	`because i can use it to receiving fax`
`03:49.39`	`mofo-x`	`PMantis: make sure you have a musiconhold.conf and in modules.conf you have the musiconhold app being loaded`
`03:49.47`	`Nugget`	`"should not be a problem"?`
`03:49.59`	`PMantis`	`hardwire, I would expect that it would be installed... this was supposed to be a simple upgrade to a server that was in production for months.`
`03:50.04`	`Nugget`	`for what? you think that because you can receive a fax that asterisk will automatically be able to send an sms out over the modem?`
`03:50.22`	`mofo-x`	`Nugget: don't even try :)`
`03:50.35`	`hardwire`	`littleball: its more of a matter of does asterisk have a channel driver for it`
`03:50.46`	`littleball`	`yes. i also think so..`
`03:50.47`	`hardwire`	`does chan_modem_* speak to it at all?`
`03:50.55`	`hardwire`	`littleball: if so you don't have a problem`
`03:51.26`	`littleball`	`let me check`
`03:51.26`	`PMantis`	`hardwire, "show modules like music" shows this:`
`03:51.26`	`PMantis`	`res_musiconhold.so Music On Hold Resource 1`
`03:51.39`	`hardwire`	`PMantis: I was lying about being the only one`
`03:51.48`	`PMantis`	`Heh`
`03:52.15`	`PMantis`	`Oh wait.. mofo-x asked that question. :)`
`03:52.24`	`mofo-x`	`what did I ask?`
`03:52.31`	`hardwire`	`<mofo-x> PMantis: make sure you have a musiconhold.conf and in modules.conf you have the musiconhold app being loaded`
`03:52.35`	`hardwire`	`tada`
`03:52.35`	`PMantis`	`mofo-x, me to check that the module was loaded.`
`03:52.39`	`mofo-x`	`ah`
`03:52.48`	`littleball`	`Can I use my modem to connect to the PSTN?`
`03:52.48`	`littleball`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:53.02`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`03:53.03`	`hardwire`	`littleball: you just said it was no problem!`
`03:53.08`	`mofo-x`	`hahahah`
`03:53.12`	`hardwire`	`or I did, based on what you said.`
`03:53.36`	`hardwire`	`one way or another if there is a channel driver that supports the modem in your mac you are 100% golden!`
`03:53.38`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: what world?`
`03:53.49`	`hardwire`	`I am so gonna send a swordsman your way`
`03:53.54`	`mofo-x`	`rhetorical, getting away from here....`
`03:53.58`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`03:53.58`	`hardwire`	`just out of principle`
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`03:54.45`	`hardwire`	`sigh`
`03:54.49`	`hardwire`	`I have to get ready for a party`
`03:54.52`	`hardwire`	`tonights gonna blow`
`03:55.27`	`*** part/#asterisk Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
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`03:55.38`	`hardwire`	`an after hours party hosted by an eccentric booze store I frequent at a club that g/f always wanted to go to`
`03:55.42`	`hardwire`	`and she is too sick to join me`
`03:56.27`	`karmicthreat`	`Anyone know if there is a way to cluster asterisk so you can have a 500 person conference call with maybe 10 talkers at any given time? I'm trying to replace a teamspeak server.`
`03:56.37`	`hardwire`	`sure`
`03:56.49`	`hardwire`	`its gonna sound like ass though`
`03:57.06`	`karmicthreat`	`Why would it sound like ass?`
`03:57.21`	`hardwire`	`...ld it sound like ass..`
`03:57.22`	`hardwire`	`echo`
`03:57.28`	`BOLIVIAN`	`haha`
`03:57.37`	`hardwire`	`I made jimmy laugh`
`03:57.48`	`BOLIVIAN`	`shane u r fast for the jokes`
`03:58.02`	`hardwire`	`jimmy I have no life.. and in america they shoot you for these jokes.`
`03:58.28`	`PMantis`	`hardwire, mofo-x, Arrrrgh... the FreePBX upgrade wiped out the musiconhold.conf file! Sorry.`
`03:58.38`	`mofo-x`	`told ya`
`03:58.40`	`mofo-x`	`:)`
`03:58.43`	`hardwire`	`karmicthreat: if you have a manager script set up to join a bunch of conferences together initially whenever one is created, or dynamically as load goes up then thats your first step`
`03:59.04`	`hardwire`	`by join I mean call eachother`
`03:59.05`	`\|dennis\|`	`Question: I have a gxp-2000, i am using trixbox and i have implemented pins to enable outboubd calling. is there anyway for me to prevent the pin numbers from appearing on the gxp's screen as they are being typed as any overlooker can see thepin code and misuse it. or is tehre any otehr way to implement security?`
`03:59.18`	`PMantis`	`ROFL`
`03:59.20`	`mofo-x`	`omg you have a 500 person teamspeak server?`
`03:59.31`	`mofo-x`	`axel f crazy frog ;p`
`03:59.31`	`karmicthreat`	`Ah yea, then I can see where the echo issue comes in.`
`03:59.33`	`sevard`	`God DAMNIT`
`03:59.41`	`hardwire`	`then you just redirect inbound calls in a load balanced way to the seperate conference servers talking over a high speed low latency backbone`
`03:59.43`	`sevard`	`\|dennis\|: PIN == Personal Identification Number`
`03:59.47`	`sevard`	`saying PIN Number`
`03:59.48`	`hardwire`	`karmicthreat: 500 is a bit insane`
`03:59.49`	`sevard`	`is REDUNDANT`
`03:59.53`	`karmicthreat`	`Yea, we have a very large eve-online alliance. Teamspeak is really starting to fail us.`
`03:59.58`	`hardwire`	`where do you even find 500 people that have anything in common?`
`04:00.07`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`04:00.11`	`sevard`	`hardwire: concerts`
`04:00.12`	`Qwell`	`hardwire: match.com?`
`04:00.13`	`mofo-x`	`#asterisk on freenode`
`04:00.19`	`hardwire`	`sigh`
`04:00.24`	`hardwire`	`I want real results`
`04:00.25`	`hardwire`	`no guessing`
`04:00.31`	`sevard`	`hardwire: CONCERTS`
`04:00.34`	`mofo-x`	`piratebay.org`
`04:00.35`	`hardwire`	`its dark`
`04:00.37`	`hardwire`	`you can't see them`
`04:00.41`	`sevard`	`hardwire: it's`
`04:00.51`	`hardwire`	`hahahaha`
`04:00.51`	`karmicthreat`	`This is sounding more like something that needs a custom program for it to actually be done correctly.`
`04:00.52`	`mofo-x`	`prison`
`04:00.58`	`hardwire`	`karmicthreat: don't be afraid`
`04:01.04`	`hardwire`	`thats what my good buddy always says`
`04:01.08`	`hardwire`	`"I'm not afraid"`
`04:01.10`	`hardwire`	`and then he does it.`
`04:01.14`	`hardwire`	`be a do-er`
`04:01.16`	`sevard`	`is he native american?`
`04:01.21`	`hardwire`	`korean`
`04:01.33`	`hardwire`	`fearless korean`
`04:01.35`	`sevard`	`i know a couple native americans that say "I am not afriad, whiteman."`
`04:01.36`	`mofo-x`	`hakuna matata`
`04:01.47`	`Nugget`	`don't worry, be happy.`
`04:02.03`	`sevard`	`PROBLEM FREEEEEE PHILOSOPHY>>>>>>>`
`04:02.05`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: what the fuck does hakuna matata mean?`
`04:02.08`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`04:02.14`	`mofo-x`	`"it means no worries"`
`04:02.24`	`hardwire`	`I wanna hear it from africa thank you very much!`
`04:02.55`	`mofo-x`	`as you ask the bolivian? :P`
`04:03.05`	`pids`	`How can I play an announcement to both parties at the same time upon call connection. To inform them that this call may be recorded.`
`04:03.15`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: bolivia is in africa!`
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`04:03.45`	`hardwire`	`oh my god`
`04:03.55`	`hardwire`	`don't you hate how south america and africa are like fucking twins`
`04:04.21`	`hardwire`	`haha`
`04:04.24`	`hardwire`	`augh`
`04:04.28`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x you rule`
`04:04.34`	`hardwire`	`<- pwned`
`04:04.35`	`sevard`	`twins don't fuck. that's hi.`
`04:04.40`	`sevard`	`hi == gross`
`04:04.55`	`hardwire`	`sevard: how many people at a concert call eachother to talk to eachother?`
`04:04.58`	`hardwire`	`at once`
`04:05.17`	`hardwire`	`btw concerts also have echo problems`
`04:05.17`	`sevard`	`hardwire: you know when the lead singer goes ARE YOU GUYS FEELING GOOD?`
`04:05.24`	`sevard`	`and everyone says YEAHHHHH`
`04:05.26`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`04:05.27`	`sevard`	`that's call and response.`
`04:05.34`	`hardwire`	`ok fine`
`04:05.36`	`hardwire`	`you win too`
`04:05.42`	`hardwire`	`I'm running out of gold stars`
`04:06.20`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: I thought you were going to fly me to Africa, not South America`
`04:06.25`	`hardwire`	`deals off`
`04:06.37`	`mofo-x`	`hehehe`
`04:06.59`	`BOLIVIAN`	`heh`
`04:07.03`	`BOLIVIAN`	`bad news my ATA`
`04:07.09`	`hardwire`	`?`
`04:07.09`	`BOLIVIAN`	`has 2 fxs ports`
`04:07.12`	`hardwire`	`sweet`
`04:07.22`	`BOLIVIAN`	`its the handytone 496`
`04:07.33`	`BOLIVIAN`	`the 488 is the one that has fxs and fxo`
`04:07.43`	`BOLIVIAN`	`so i have to buy one`
`04:07.56`	`hardwire`	`return it :)`
`04:08.00`	`BOLIVIAN`	`but what if i buy a digium card?`
`04:08.09`	`hardwire`	`support contracts!`
`04:08.10`	`BOLIVIAN`	`cant i just acomplish the same?`
`04:08.12`	`hardwire`	`who wants that mess`
`04:08.20`	`hardwire`	`dial 500`
`04:08.22`	`hardwire`	`talk to us`
`04:08.24`	`hardwire`	`woowoowoo`
`04:08.35`	`hardwire`	`pshaw`
`04:08.46`	`BOLIVIAN`	`africa hah`
`04:08.52`	`BOLIVIAN`	`we r not the same as then`
`04:08.55`	`BOLIVIAN`	`those are blacks`
`04:09.05`	`BOLIVIAN`	`we are mixture`
`04:09.10`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: get a TDM400 series with 2 FXS and 2 FXO or 3 FXS and 1 FXO`
`04:09.17`	`BOLIVIAN`	`spaniards and guarani myself`
`04:09.26`	`hardwire`	`theny you can put three phones out and tie it to one line, just give a busy signal if another is in use`
`04:09.37`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: well , you would still look like a funny pengiun`
`04:09.47`	`mofo-x`	`I have always found FXSes are pointless`
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`04:10.02`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: its obvious you don't actually make calls`
`04:10.02`	`mofo-x`	`better off getting a cheap sip phone instead of using crappy analog ones`
`04:10.12`	`hardwire`	`ah heh!`
`04:10.16`	`mofo-x`	`Aastra 9133i :P`
`04:10.21`	`hardwire`	`those are spiffy`
`04:10.32`	`mofo-x`	`just rolled out 48 of em`
`04:10.42`	`hardwire`	`ok`
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`04:10.45`	`*** join/#asterisk mike052278 (n=mike@d118-75-206-122.clv.wideopenwest.com)`
`04:10.45`	`mofo-x`	`Lacks some preferred features however, namely STUN`
`04:10.52`	`hardwire`	`I seriously have important party stuff to be doing`
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`04:10.55`	`mofo-x`	`what were the snoms like?`
`04:10.59`	`hardwire`	`snommy`
`04:11.01`	`hardwire`	`what else`
`04:11.02`	`mofo-x`	`in bolivia? :)`
`04:11.03`	`hardwire`	`and fuzzy`
`04:11.09`	`hardwire`	`in alaskana!`
`04:11.10`	`mike052278`	`hey is anyone good w/ sip/dial scripting?`
`04:11.13`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire is it true u exchange wifes in alaska?`
`04:11.16`	`hardwire`	`mike052278: only everybody!`
`04:11.20`	`mofo-x`	`hahah`
`04:11.26`	`mike052278`	`well i asked u earlier dork and u ignored it :P`
`04:11.30`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: when were done swapping wives we swap seals.`
`04:11.32`	`mofo-x`	`hardwire: do you even feel like an american?`
`04:11.46`	`hardwire`	`shock`
`04:11.47`	`mofo-x`	`I can't determine if you are controlled by bush, bears, or martin`
`04:11.51`	`hardwire`	`of course I feel like an american`
`04:11.56`	`BOLIVIAN`	`skimo lend u their wifes`
`04:12.05`	`BOLIVIAN`	`very sweet`
`04:12.08`	`hardwire`	`everybody has an old Bush sticker faded out and partially scraped off their bumpers`
`04:12.35`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: I don't think Alaska has any traditions like that`
`04:12.38`	`hardwire`	`but I will be sure to find out`
`04:12.41`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire if u are blond and pink u r english not american`
`04:12.43`	`mofo-x`	`hardwire: I always figured you guys would feel more like canadians ;P`
`04:12.47`	`BOLIVIAN`	`we are the real americans, the mixture`
`04:12.58`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: I am of the family Despencer`
`04:13.01`	`hardwire`	`from England`
`04:13.43`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i couldnt translate the word despencer`
`04:13.56`	`hardwire`	`thats cause its the olde english form of my name`
`04:13.59`	`BOLIVIAN`	`is it where u put the meals`
`04:14.08`	`hardwire`	`yes.. you put them in the me.`
`04:14.18`	`BOLIVIAN`	`heh`
`04:14.22`	`hardwire`	`ta!`
`04:14.24`	`hardwire`	`gotta run!`
`04:14.25`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i must have british genes`
`04:14.26`	`hardwire`	`don't die!`
`04:14.34`	`hardwire`	`mike052278: thanks a ton!`
`04:14.36`	`BOLIVIAN`	`my teeth are english and i like beatles`
`04:14.45`	`BOLIVIAN`	`bye hardwire`
`04:15.48`	`mike052278`	`np hardwire`
`04:15.57`	`hardwire`	`does dialtone in canada soundl like a long "eeeehhhhhh"`
`04:16.37`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`04:16.44`	`mofo-x`	`no but the sidetone does`
`04:17.04`	`mike052278`	`anywho - does anyone know this simple line will not send to vm after the seconds are up? exten => s,1,Dial(SIP/204,30,t)`
`04:17.09`	`mike052278`	`er why`
`04:17.11`	`mike052278`	`:D`
`04:17.23`	`mofo-x`	`s,2,VoiceMail,uXXXXX`
`04:17.53`	`mofo-x`	`s,102,VoiceMail,bXXXXXX`
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`04:18.06`	`mofo-x`	`adds unavailable and busy support`
`04:18.23`	`mofo-x`	`where X = mailbox setup in voicemail.conf`
`04:18.26`	`mike052278`	`ah`
`04:18.31`	`mike052278`	`u are da man mofo`
`04:18.32`	`mike052278`	`:D`
`04:18.52`	`mofo-x`	`here is an example for my extension`
`04:18.53`	`mofo-x`	`exten => 100,hint,SIP/scott`
`04:18.54`	`mofo-x`	`exten => 100,1,Dial(SIP/scott,20,tr)`
`04:18.54`	`mofo-x`	`exten => 100,2,VoiceMail,u100`
`04:18.54`	`mofo-x`	`exten => 100,102,VoiceMail,b100`
`04:19.20`	`Nugget`	`Personally I think that using ${DIALSTATUS} is cleaner and better.`
`04:19.22`	`mofo-x`	`want another lifesaver?`
`04:19.42`	`BOLIVIAN`	`im too anxious theres too much to research about asterisk`
`04:19.47`	`mike052278`	`lol`
`04:19.49`	`mike052278`	`awesome`
`04:19.50`	`mofo-x`	`you worried about voicemail passwords or no?`
`04:19.51`	`mike052278`	`thx mofo`
`04:20.01`	`mike052278`	`umm i just want it to say please leave a msg`
`04:20.09`	`mike052278`	`if no answer`
`04:20.11`	`mofo-x`	`exten => *98,1,Voicemailmain,s${CALLERID(num)}`
`04:20.32`	`mofo-x`	`if you dial *98 on your phone and your voicemailbox matches your extension`
`04:20.40`	`mofo-x`	`it put you straight through to your messages`
`04:20.55`	`mofo-x`	`get rid of the s in the s$ and it will ask for your passcode`
`04:21.14`	`Nugget`	`http://pastebin.ca/329930 is less awkward and easier to maintain than relying on n+100 style branching.`
`04:22.09`	`mofo-x`	`nice and clean`
`04:22.30`	`mike052278`	`awesome`
`04:22.34`	`mike052278`	`wow dude`
`04:22.51`	`mike052278`	`im trying to get to that stage where i can just rattle shit off :P`
`04:22.59`	`mofo-x`	`I still prefer the old awkward way, reminds me I am a console unix admin ;p`
`04:23.24`	`Nugget`	`well, you can edit your extensions.conf in pico and maintain that air of obsolescense if you prefer. :)`
`04:23.50`	`mofo-x`	`hahaha`
`04:23.53`	`mike052278`	`lol`
`04:24.10`	`mofo-x`	`mike052278: make sure even with that example that the mailbox in voicemail.conf must match the extension number`
`04:24.56`	`mofo-x`	`joe is better then pico lol`
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`04:26.32`	`mike052278`	`k`
`04:26.59`	`mike052278`	`yup it matches`
`04:27.00`	`mike052278`	`lemme test`
`04:28.03`	`mike052278`	`wow`
`04:28.06`	`mike052278`	`100% perfect`
`04:28.07`	`mike052278`	`:)?`
`04:28.25`	`mike052278`	`sorry man you are the first dude to actually help me very quickly with a script and no issues`
`04:28.26`	`mike052278`	`:D`
`04:31.02`	`hardwire`	`mike052278: so they saaaaaaaid tomorrow it should be there`
`04:31.45`	`hardwire`	`wow, you were born exactly 2 months and 1 year before me.`
`04:31.48`	`hardwire`	`woowoo`
`04:33.43`	`hardwire072279`	`Mr Octopus?`
`04:33.47`	`mofo-x`	`what happened to the party?`
`04:33.51`	`hardwire072279`	`dude`
`04:33.58`	`hardwire072279`	`its gonna be one of those nights`
`04:34.15`	`hardwire072279`	`so my g/f is off somewhere doing who knows what and she is trying to give away the tickets`
`04:34.47`	`hardwire072279`	`I just called to say "hey, when you coming home so I can go to the party"`
`04:35.04`	`hardwire072279`	`and she was all "hmm, well.. I sorta told somebody else they could have the tickets cause you sounded frustrated earlier"`
`04:35.07`	`hardwire072279`	`sigh`
`04:35.15`	`mike052278`	`hard`
`04:35.16`	`hardwire072279`	`I was frustrated cause you were sick`
`04:35.21`	`mike052278`	`actually i was born on 52279`
`04:35.21`	`mike052278`	`lol`
`04:35.29`	`mike052278`	`but i couldn't remember my password to identify that one`
`04:35.30`	`hardwire072279`	`mike052278: I know!`
`04:35.30`	`mike052278`	`lolol`
`04:35.32`	`mofo-x`	`http://joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html`
`04:36.14`	`hardwire072279`	`funny stuff`
`04:37.37`	`hardwire072279`	`I like how korea is advising not to install vista yet`
`04:37.42`	`hardwire072279`	`it would kill their economy`
`04:37.43`	`hardwire072279`	`heh`
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`04:39.48`	`hardwire072279`	`mofo-x: no really, you on tribalwars?`
`04:39.58`	`mofo-x`	`used to be`
`04:40.04`	`hardwire072279`	`just Mofo?`
`04:40.04`	`mofo-x`	`havent played in a LONG time ;0`
`04:40.11`	`mofo-x`	`I have more fun playing LoGD`
`04:40.38`	`hardwire072279`	`Letters of a grannies diary?`
`04:41.09`	`mofo-x`	`Legend of the Green Dragon`
`04:41.16`	`hardwire072279`	`heheh`
`04:42.42`	`hardwire072279`	`are you a god?`
`04:43.05`	`mofo-x`	`haha`
`04:43.11`	`mofo-x`	`No, I am an admin`
`04:43.13`	`mofo-x`	`:)`
`04:43.19`	`hardwire072279`	`so do you even play?`
`04:43.23`	`mofo-x`	`I love it, I grew up in the BBS days with LORD`
`04:43.25`	`mofo-x`	`yupp`
`04:43.35`	`mofo-x`	`I run logd.ca / lotgd.ca small player base`
`04:43.52`	`hardwire072279`	`make a good pull from paypal?`
`04:43.57`	`mofo-x`	`nope ;)`
`04:44.04`	`hardwire072279`	`even pay your bw costs?`
`04:44.08`	`mofo-x`	`nope`
`04:44.16`	`hardwire072279`	`running at a loss is the best kind of BBS`
`04:44.19`	`mofo-x`	`my server though, I do web hosting so it doesnt cost me anythere really`
`04:44.39`	`mofo-x`	`I got voted top 10 in canada in the prime bbs days`
`04:44.44`	`hardwire072279`	`jimmy the hand?`
`04:44.48`	`mofo-x`	`yupp`
`04:44.49`	`mofo-x`	`:)`
`04:45.04`	`hardwire072279`	`you in the canadian mafia?`
`04:45.18`	`mofo-x`	`hahaha, we have mafia? :)`
`04:45.27`	`*** part/#asterisk karmicthreat (n=aristaqi@pool-71-120-129-94.gdrpmi.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`04:46.03`	`hardwire072279`	`I googled`
`04:46.08`	`hardwire072279`	`the riftwar char?`
`04:46.39`	`mofo-x`	`yupp I love feist`
`04:47.06`	`mofo-x`	`ah mafia -- mockers I get it ;)`
`04:47.09`	`mofo-x`	`took me a minute`
`04:47.30`	`hardwire072279`	`Internet Transcendentalist: Google Everything`
`04:47.44`	`mofo-x`	`should have googled bolivia earlier ;P`
`04:47.49`	`hardwire072279`	`sigh`
`04:47.51`	`hardwire072279`	`don't laugh`
`04:47.53`	`hardwire072279`	`but I did`
`04:47.57`	`hardwire072279`	`it looked like africa`
`04:48.02`	`hardwire072279`	`leave me alone now`
`04:48.18`	`mofo-x`	`U read feist?`
`04:48.26`	`mofo-x`	`or any fantasy?`
`04:48.37`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: no.. never touched the stuff.. I just thought Jimmy the Hand sounded mafia riffic`
`04:48.40`	`hardwire`	`you made your own assumption`
`04:48.44`	`hardwire`	`I like Niven`
`04:48.50`	`hardwire`	`Carol Berg`
`04:49.06`	`mofo-x`	`hardwire: mofo-x: no.. never touched the stuff.. I just thought Jimmy the Hand sounded mafia riffic`
`04:49.10`	`mofo-x`	`or did you google it? :)`
`04:49.27`	`hardwire`	`no really. Sounds like something from the sopranos!`
`04:49.46`	`mofo-x`	`Feist is weird, i wrote like 5 sets of mini segas in the series`
`04:50.03`	`hardwire`	`"Talk or jimmy here, you know jimmy.. jimmy the HAND, will put his HANDs to work on you, you see?"`
`04:50.07`	`mofo-x`	`and jimmy is a recurring character, goes from boy thief in first saga to duke of a kingdom in the end`
`04:50.24`	`hardwire`	`weird`
`04:50.49`	`hardwire`	`I don't typically go foor series of more than 4 books each more than say 300 pages`
`04:50.56`	`hardwire`	`big blocky series scare me`
`04:51.05`	`hardwire`	`I end up owning everything instead of using a library`
`04:51.15`	`mofo-x`	`they are the good ones`
`04:51.23`	`mofo-x`	`if you wanna ever try fantasy`
`04:51.31`	`hardwire`	`I have`
`04:51.32`	`mofo-x`	`read Pawn of Prophecy from David Eddings`
`04:51.36`	`hardwire`	`Carol Berg is good fantasy`
`04:51.37`	`mofo-x`	`Book 1 of the Belgariad`
`04:51.38`	`hardwire`	`short and sweet`
`04:51.44`	`hardwire`	`and a lot of other random books before that`
`04:51.49`	`mofo-x`	`eddings is the same, great story easy read`
`04:51.50`	`hardwire`	`including ugh.. goodkind`
`04:51.56`	`hardwire`	`g/f has lots and lots of eddings`
`04:51.59`	`mofo-x`	`whats wrong with Goodkind?`
`04:52.06`	`hardwire`	`that smug look I think`
`04:52.15`	`mofo-x`	`Jordan, Goodkind, Eddings, Feist are probably my favs of all time`
`04:52.29`	`hardwire`	`mofo-x: I only read Carol Berg because she is of my home town`
`04:52.33`	`hardwire`	`and I don't regret it`
`04:52.35`	`mofo-x`	`kate elliot is pretty good to, not that well known though`
`04:52.40`	`hardwire`	`better ideas than Goodkind`
`04:52.50`	`hardwire`	`not as wordy as Jordan`
`04:53.03`	`hardwire`	`wordy/long winded`
`04:53.23`	`hardwire`	`long winded/kills forests`
`04:53.23`	`hardwire`	`whatever`
`04:53.36`	`mofo-x`	`how is it for the cheese effect? The reason I like jordan and goodkind is that they aren't do... fantasy ish u know goblins elves and shit. Add a weird sort of scientific/physics aspect to magic etc`
`04:54.09`	`hardwire`	`there is no real cheese`
`04:54.37`	`hardwire`	`if I explained the books, it would sound cheesy`
`04:54.38`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`04:54.40`	`hardwire`	`cause I am cheesy`
`04:55.08`	`hardwire`	`the first series is amazing`
`04:55.20`	`hardwire`	`it hooked me into her writing`
`04:55.27`	`*** part/#asterisk Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
`04:55.27`	`*** join/#asterisk Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
`04:55.45`	`hardwire`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Berg`
`04:56.00`	`hardwire`	`Song of the Beast is a great one if you want to dip your feet in`
`04:56.06`	`hardwire`	`I may pick up eddings soon`
`04:56.08`	`hardwire`	`its just scary long`
`04:56.35`	`mofo-x`	`eddings has 4 series`
`04:56.46`	`mofo-x`	`the first 2 are the only good ones and they are pretty small`
`04:56.49`	`mofo-x`	`fast reads as well`
`04:56.55`	`mofo-x`	`The Belgariad and the mallorean`
`04:56.58`	`hardwire`	`I like the Bridge of D'Arnath series`
`04:57.05`	`hardwire`	`it has nothing to do with any of her other books/series`
`04:57.06`	`hardwire`	`which I like`
`04:57.15`	`hardwire`	`no hokey "lets use this idea from this series here"`
`04:58.04`	`hardwire`	`it portraits a rift between two worlds very few people can travel. And developments in both of them.`
`04:58.24`	`mofo-x`	`HAHAHA`
`04:58.34`	`hardwire`	`see I told you it would sound cheesy`
`04:58.36`	`mofo-x`	`That is Feists Riftwar saga in a nutshell`
`04:58.48`	`hardwire`	`well then read it and find out how NOT like it it is`
`04:58.50`	`hardwire`	`:)`
`04:58.53`	`mofo-x`	`hehehe`
`04:58.58`	`mofo-x`	`no hokey "lets use this idea from this series here"`
`04:59.07`	`hardwire`	`from her own :)`
`04:59.22`	`hardwire`	`quit quoting me. I will drive the Alcan and beat you once I find your home`
`04:59.49`	`mofo-x`	`hehe`
`05:00.02`	`hardwire`	`sigh`
`05:00.06`	`mofo-x`	`u like alaska?`
`05:00.13`	`hardwire`	`Yeh.`
`05:00.16`	`hardwire`	`a lots`
`05:00.20`	`mofo-x`	`what is the weather like right now where u are?`
`05:00.27`	`hardwire`	`today was creepy warm`
`05:00.35`	`hardwire`	`otherwise its cold as hell`
`05:00.43`	`mofo-x`	`temps?`
`05:00.51`	`hardwire`	`30ish today`
`05:00.53`	`hardwire`	`balmy`
`05:01.09`	`mofo-x`	`doh`
`05:01.21`	`mofo-x`	`damn americans and fareignheit or however its spelt`
`05:01.24`	`mofo-x`	`:)`
`05:01.24`	`hardwire`	`http://flickr.com/photos/skyefencer/148474203/`
`05:01.56`	`hardwire`	`it gets super green in the summer`
`05:01.59`	`mofo-x`	`whos in the pic?`
`05:02.05`	`hardwire`	`my ditching g/f`
`05:02.11`	`mofo-x`	`cute ;P`
`05:02.22`	`hardwire`	`thats my dog too. they are ditching together.`
`05:02.22`	`mofo-x`	`its really gorgeus there`
`05:02.25`	`mofo-x`	`lol`
`05:02.35`	`hardwire`	`http://flickr.com/photos/skyefencer/148474204/`
`05:02.39`	`hardwire`	`lake a few minutes from my house`
`05:02.52`	`mofo-x`	`wow that is pretty warm there`
`05:02.52`	`hardwire`	`I am gonna do some extreme kiting as soon as I can afford a large enough kite`
`05:03.09`	`hardwire`	`extrizeeeem!`
`05:03.15`	`mofo-x`	`it was -22 here with windchill`
`05:03.48`	`mofo-x`	`(that is -22 fahrenheit)`
`05:03.54`	`hardwire`	`I was about to convert`
`05:04.12`	`hardwire`	`I knew it was around -30 either way`
`05:04.24`	`mofo-x`	`-30 celcius, froze my nuts off`
`05:04.34`	`hardwire`	`I walk the dog in -20`
`05:04.36`	`hardwire`	`F`
`05:04.40`	`hardwire`	`it sucks`
`05:04.55`	`hardwire`	`the rest of my day is fine :)`
`05:04.58`	`mofo-x`	`our coldest was last with -38F with windchill`
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`05:05.13`	`mofo-x`	`last week i meant`
`05:05.49`	`hardwire`	`http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/PABV/2007/1/26/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar`
`05:05.59`	`hardwire`	`its been warm this month`
`05:06.10`	`hardwire`	`the sun is starting to peek at us again`
`05:06.18`	`hardwire`	`its super colorful in the mornings`
`05:07.42`	`mike052278`	`wow`
`05:07.44`	`mike052278`	`lol`
`05:07.51`	`mike052278`	`we hit a low of like 16F today`
`05:08.00`	`mike052278`	`the coldest its been was like 2F`
`05:08.09`	`hardwire`	`yeh?`
`05:08.10`	`mike052278`	`i could never live where you guys do`
`05:08.12`	`mike052278`	`yeah`
`05:08.24`	`hardwire`	`its warm!`
`05:08.27`	`mike052278`	`but it just started getting cold like this month`
`05:08.28`	`hardwire`	`just those damn dog walks`
`05:08.38`	`mike052278`	`cuz last month it was like 40-50F everyday`
`05:08.39`	`mike052278`	`:P`
`05:08.44`	`hardwire`	`wowsers!`
`05:08.51`	`hardwire`	`I might as well be in Hawaii!`
`05:08.57`	`mike052278`	`lolol`
`05:09.03`	`mofo-x`	`hehe you get used to the cold and snow`
`05:09.04`	`hardwire`	`I don't think I am going to this party`
`05:09.09`	`hardwire`	`it started a few minutes ago.`
`05:09.13`	`hardwire`	`I am 30 minutes away if I had a car`
`05:09.15`	`mofo-x`	`I love watching americans from down south come up here and try to drive in the winter`
`05:09.17`	`mike052278`	`what time is it there`
`05:09.22`	`mike052278`	`lol`
`05:09.24`	`hardwire`	`the car is 45 minutes away`
`05:09.53`	`hardwire`	`8:10pm`
`05:10.01`	`mike052278`	`damn`
`05:10.03`	`mike052278`	`thats crazy`
`05:10.10`	`mofo-x`	`here it is 12:10 Midnight (Ontario)`
`05:10.21`	`mike052278`	`im used to a 3hr diff. cuz of the co. i work for is headquarters in cali`
`05:10.25`	`mike052278`	`but that is just nuts`
`05:10.53`	`hardwire`	`yeh and we have a screwy time zone`
`05:11.04`	`mofo-x`	`you follow pacific right?`
`05:11.11`	`mofo-x`	`or mountain?`
`05:11.17`	`mofo-x`	`pac...`
`05:11.25`	`hardwire`	`1 hour after pacific`
`05:11.33`	`hardwire`	`-0900`
`05:11.33`	`mofo-x`	`mountain then.`
`05:11.41`	`hardwire`	`what?`
`05:11.50`	`Strom_C`	`no, mountain is -0700`
`05:11.54`	`mofo-x`	`pacific, mountain, central, eastern`
`05:11.59`	`hardwire`	`AKST!`
`05:12.04`	`hardwire`	`alaska`
`05:12.06`	`hardwire`	`we have our own :)`
`05:12.13`	`hardwire`	`and its huge`
`05:12.15`	`mofo-x`	`wow you are the newfies of the USA`
`05:12.20`	`hardwire`	`it doesn't obey the earth`
`05:12.34`	`hardwire`	`it spans like 4 timezones and they just rolled it into one`
`05:12.52`	`mofo-x`	`well that is like the north west territories in canada`
`05:12.54`	`hardwire`	`so everybody on the west side of the state is all "hey, whered my sun go" when they have to go to work`
`05:13.31`	`hardwire`	`I am supposed to be somewhere around -0930`
`05:13.41`	`mike052278`	`lol`
`05:13.44`	`mofo-x`	`newfoundland is exactly 30 mins later then are most eastern time zone`
`05:13.44`	`hardwire`	`and the west most should be -1030`
`05:14.08`	`mofo-x`	`north west territories spans most of canada horizontally and does the same thing`
`05:15.30`	`hardwire`	`its wild living so far north`
`05:15.37`	`hardwire`	`and I am only a little further north than anchorage`
`05:15.43`	`mofo-x`	`nice`
`05:15.48`	`mofo-x`	`good weed then ;P`
`05:15.54`	`hardwire`	`hah`
`05:15.54`	`hardwire`	`yeh`
`05:15.59`	`hardwire`	`the 24hour grow operations up here`
`05:16.10`	`hardwire`	`I don't smoke, if I did this would be the state`
`05:16.41`	`mofo-x`	`well time for me to hit the igloo`
`05:16.44`	`hardwire`	`I think its too cold for the DEA`
`05:16.51`	`mofo-x`	`;P`
`05:17.14`	`mofo-x`	`nite guys`
`05:19.13`	`hardwire`	`yup`
`05:19.15`	`hardwire`	`no party`
`05:20.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`There aren't any dry states left`
`05:20.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`Dry counties, yes`
`05:20.30`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: we are undry`
`05:20.35`	`mofo-x`	`alaska is one big county`
`05:20.47`	`hardwire`	`there are villages that opt for dry during like Lent`
`05:21.06`	`hardwire`	`and some that the local government has prohibited hard booze being sold on`
`05:21.12`	`mofo-x`	`nite guys, see ya later`
`05:21.22`	`hardwire`	`night eh`
`05:21.38`	`mofo-x`	`you too eh`
`05:21.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: there are several counties in TN (including the one where Jack Daniels Whiskey is made) which are still dry`
`05:22.11`	`Ritalin2`	`you have villages in alaska?`
`05:22.14`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: What! were they dumping whiskey waste in the water supply?`
`05:22.26`	`hardwire`	`Ritalin2: Native Alaskan villages`
`05:22.32`	`Ritalin2`	`is JD made in Coffee county?`
`05:22.42`	`hardwire`	`I have worked for two native corporations now`
`05:22.43`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: Dryness hasn't been repealed since Prohibition`
`05:22.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: I forget`
`05:23.02`	`Ritalin2`	`It's made in lynchberg but I forget what county that is`
`05:23.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`I don't go down there too often`
`05:23.16`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: is TN one of those states that has those fat old guys in white dress pants and suspenders that go around making laws about peeking at womens shoes.`
`05:23.21`	`Ritalin2`	`which is close to tullahoma and machester and all that. tullahoma is coffee county`
`05:23.28`	`mike052278`	`hey mofo`
`05:23.33`	`mike052278`	`ah shit`
`05:23.34`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: not anymore`
`05:23.35`	`mike052278`	`he took off`
`05:24.36`	`Ritalin2`	`the county I live in just turned over the dry thing in 2005`
`05:24.36`	`Ritalin2`	`Corydon: where are you`
`05:24.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`Nashville`
`05:24.49`	`Qwell`	`the county Dallas is in, is dry`
`05:24.57`	`Ritalin2`	`I'm near knoxville`
`05:24.57`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: wow`
`05:25.07`	`Qwell`	`which is just stupid...because you can still buy alcohol, if you're part of a "club"`
`05:25.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`Moore county`
`05:25.09`	`hardwire`	`I was always curious how Elvii-centric nashville is`
`05:25.31`	`hardwire`	`like is he on the money there?`
`05:25.31`	`Qwell`	`hardwire: pretty much`
`05:25.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: you're thinking of Memphis`
`05:25.31`	`Ritalin2`	`hardware: about 4 hours from where Elvis-centric area is`
`05:25.48`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: same thing right?`
`05:25.49`	`Qwell`	`dude...`
`05:25.49`	`Qwell`	`I went to Graceland`
`05:25.49`	`Qwell`	`and I got a flat tire`
`05:25.51`	`Ritalin2`	`hardwire: how it is living in Canada?`
`05:25.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: only if a 4 hour drive is the same thing`
`05:25.58`	`hardwire`	`Qwell: you write a song about it?`
`05:26.05`	`Qwell`	`hardwire: no, but I totally should`
`05:26.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`Well, 3, if you drive like me`
`05:26.17`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: that gets you from east anchorage to west anchorage`
`05:26.19`	`Qwell`	`the Graceland maintenance manager came out and helped us change it - heh`
`05:26.20`	`hardwire`	`but thats because of the traffic`
`05:26.35`	`Ritalin2`	`the drive from east tn to nashville is fine. nashville to memphs makes me want to kill everyone`
`05:26.53`	`hardwire`	`Qwell: did he ever say "Welcome to Graceland my son"`
`05:26.56`	`hardwire`	`pimp lyrics there`
`05:27.00`	`Qwell`	`the drive from Huntsville to Nashville is...disturbing...at night`
`05:27.28`	`hardwire`	`The ketchup city!`
`05:27.29`	`Qwell`	`just make sure not to get off (no pun intended) at Exit 7`
`05:27.32`	`hardwire`	`TN rocks!`
`05:27.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: never go to east TN. There are people there whose family trees don't branch... and no, I'm not joking`
`05:28.42`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: when you look like both your dog and your mom, and you are als both of their fathers, I think you should be shot or put to work on the moon`
`05:28.58`	`Ritalin2`	`Coyrdon: what area are you talking about?`
`05:29.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: Appalachia`
`05:29.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: it's worse in West Virginia, but I don't go there, either`
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`05:30.03`	`Ritalin2`	`appalachia is a pretty big area stretching from mississippi to maine`
`05:30.19`	`hardwire`	`I wanna go there`
`05:30.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: the mountain range does, but the inbreds don't go too far north of West Virginia`
`05:31.03`	`hardwire`	`I hear the first Emo was born in Ann Arbor, and everything else is a rotten mutation of its true form.`
`05:31.05`	`hardwire`	`so I want to go there`
`05:32.47`	`Ritalin2`	`there're inbreds everywhere`
`05:33.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: Haven't met one in Nashville yet`
`05:33.32`	`hardwire`	`do you know them by handshake or something?`
`05:33.48`	`hardwire`	`how do you know if your buddys genes aren't as pure as they should be?`
`05:33.55`	`Ritalin2`	`actually speaking of inbreds I heard a very interesting story on NPR today. this guy was doing some conservation work in the Himalayas. he was in some town and reading a book about a tribe that was about to become extinct. since he was in consvervation he decided to go visit the tribe. which meant a 600 mile hike in one direction to get there`
`05:34.12`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: at a certain point in the progression, it's obvious`
`05:34.20`	`hardwire`	`Ritalin2: is this one of those give me your seed stories?`
`05:34.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: one generation of inbreeding isn't the problem. It's 5 or 6 in a row.`
`05:34.45`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: yeh.. its creepy`
`05:34.56`	`Ritalin2`	`so he gets there and finds like 5 members of the tribe left. the reason they had almost become extinct is because they were thought of as... well not very good genetically and became outcast. then they started becoming inbred and decided for the sake of the children they would stop having sex with their sister`
`05:35.02`	`hardwire`	`"Go use your sister, thats whats shes for billy!"`
`05:35.21`	`hardwire`	`Ritalin2: doh!`
`05:35.24`	`hardwire`	`well thats no fun`
`05:35.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: yeah, heard that this morning, as well`
`05:35.59`	`hardwire`	`we have the Alaska Public Radio Network up here, they patch in NPR.`
`05:36.04`	`hardwire`	`I am sort of glad I missed that`
`05:36.11`	`Ritalin2`	`so this conservationist is talking to basically the last surviving member of the tribe (the only sane one. the others have all kinds of problems) and the tribesman asked the conservationist if he had kids. he didn't and tried to explain why but the tribesman was like "those aren't reasons those are excuses. I want to have children and cant"`
`05:36.36`	`Ritalin2`	`so the conservationist left the area... went back to the US. had a kid and decided to go back and thank the guy. which meant another 600 mile hike each way`
`05:36.37`	`hardwire`	`doh`
`05:37.04`	`Ritalin2`	`Corydon: I sat in my car listening to it instead of doing what i was supposed to be doing because I found it so interesting`
`05:37.11`	`hardwire`	`how much is this conservationalists child going to cost me in my taxes?`
`05:37.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: heard it twice this morning. Once while I was waking up and once while I was driving to work`
`05:37.34`	`Ritalin2`	`hardware: he later had another child`
`05:37.42`	`hardwire`	`two angry letters`
`05:38.00`	`hardwire`	`http://flickr.com/photos/skyefencer/148474206/in/photostream/`
`05:38.01`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: Ever heard of Phreaknic?`
`05:38.04`	`hardwire`	`our kids`
`05:38.06`	`Ritalin2`	`I heard it on my way to work too.. I'm actually at work now`
`05:38.20`	`Ritalin2`	`Coyrdon: I don't believe so but it sounds familar`
`05:38.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: http://phreaknic.info`
`05:38.36`	`Ritalin2`	`work safe?`
`05:38.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes`
`05:38.44`	`hardwire`	`its full of puppies`
`05:38.45`	`hardwire`	`I promise`
`05:38.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`Just don't browse the gallery`
`05:39.08`	`Ritalin2`	`there's a nashville linux users group?`
`05:39.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes`
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`05:39.51`	`hardwire`	`cool poster art`
`05:40.12`	`Ritalin2`	`that looks pretty interesting`
`05:40.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`In October of every year`
`05:41.02`	`hardwire`	`haha`
`05:41.04`	`hardwire`	`dancing girl`
`05:41.20`	`Ritalin2`	`if i remember when october rolls around`
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`05:41.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`I'll mention it on here closer to the date`
`05:42.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`or just sign up for the phreaknic-info mailing list`
`05:42.19`	`hardwire`	`I should do soemthing like this up here`
`05:42.25`	`Ritalin2`	`I'm mostly only here because I'm still working on getting asterisk set up (well it's set up but hook flash on my digium card isn't working)`
`05:42.36`	`Ritalin2`	`yeah i'll sign pu for the mailing list`
`05:43.01`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ritalin2: Outerz0ne is coming up in a couple weeks in Atlanta`
`05:43.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`http://outerz0ne.org`
`05:44.31`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: so phreaknic is just a big old party?`
`05:44.46`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: we have talks, too`
`05:44.47`	`hardwire`	`no cult, no hidden message, just get your phreak on?`
`05:44.49`	`hardwire`	`oh`
`05:44.50`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`05:45.03`	`hardwire`	`its a store?`
`05:45.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`We have one...`
`05:45.25`	`hardwire`	`weird`
`05:45.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's partly how we finance the con`
`05:45.35`	`hardwire`	`we?`
`05:45.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`I'm the financial director`
`05:46.00`	`hardwire`	`of the store?`
`05:46.03`	`hardwire`	`or the party?`
`05:46.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`of Phreaknic`
`05:46.12`	`hardwire`	`the group`
`05:46.13`	`droops`	`Corydon76-home, no love for haycon?`
`05:46.13`	`hardwire`	`not the store`
`05:46.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: I also file the taxes`
`05:46.58`	`hardwire`	`I hope you get extra shots at the party for that`
`05:47.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`droops: first time I've heard of it`
`05:47.09`	`droops`	`http://haycon.info`
`05:47.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`Actually, I drink fairly little at Phreaknic`
`05:47.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`Excess alcohol tends to trigger my migraines`
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`05:48.51`	`hardwire`	`hayhaycon`
`05:49.21`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: doh`
`05:49.25`	`hardwire`	`sulfites?`
`05:50.19`	`hardwire`	`I should do somethign more fun with my friday`
`05:50.22`	`hardwire`	`its 9pm`
`05:50.28`	`hardwire`	`I'm 27.. or 28`
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`05:50.31`	`hardwire`	`or something to that degree`
`05:50.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`droops: you might want to be a little more specific as to where the location is`
`05:51.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`droops: such as a state`
`05:51.14`	`droops`	`yeah i guess i shoudl change that`
`05:51.44`	`droops`	`i like making people google for things`
`05:51.52`	`droops`	`http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/mississippi/hollysprings/recreation/puskus/`
`05:52.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ah`
`05:52.24`	`hardwire`	`I'm 27`
`05:52.24`	`hardwire`	`neat`
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`05:52.32`	`hardwire`	`I thought I was 28 for some reason`
`05:53.24`	`Ritalin2`	`I'm 28 and I thought I was 27`
`05:53.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: spring chicken`
`05:53.41`	`hardwire`	`actually I haven't eaten either`
`05:53.53`	`droops`	`Corydon76-home F5`
`05:54.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`droops: eh?`
`05:54.16`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: hmm.. you saying I have tender meat?`
`05:54.16`	`juice`	`hey droops`
`05:54.25`	`droops`	`your wish is my command, as long as its simple, i updated the site`
`05:54.28`	`droops`	`hey juice`
`05:54.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: I dunno, but you might`
`05:54.42`	`droops`	`i havent seen you since we got kiced out of that bar`
`05:54.45`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: I'm a gangsta!`
`05:54.49`	`juice`	`droops: lol`
`05:55.04`	`juice`	`that was fun`
`05:55.05`	`Ritalin2`	`time for the drive home. peas`
`05:55.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: whatever's good`
`05:55.11`	`hardwire`	`http://bogomip-home.dnsalias.net/bunkai/PimpsNHoes/img-99.html`
`05:55.14`	`hardwire`	`don't you forget it`
`05:55.24`	`juice`	`151 + beer = bad`
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`05:55.46`	`droops`	`151 + beer + whatever else you had = bad`
`05:55.49`	`juice`	`i think it was the beer you got that did it`
`05:55.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: chunky`
`05:55.59`	`hardwire`	`yup!`
`05:56.12`	`hardwire`	`They call me Chunky G`
`05:56.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`Works for me; my husband is ~300 lbs`
`05:56.50`	`hardwire`	`actually should be a bit over that after todays lunch`
`05:56.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heh`
`05:57.18`	`juice`	`droops guess what my backgrouind is`
`05:57.20`	`hardwire`	`http://bogomip-home.dnsalias.net/bunkai/PimpsNHoes/img-93.html`
`05:57.22`	`droops`	`?`
`05:57.27`	`juice`	`that girl`
`05:57.29`	`hardwire`	`Corydon76-home: the g/f`
`05:57.29`	`droops`	`that pic with that chick`
`05:57.33`	`droops`	`ahh`
`05:57.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`hardwire: she's cute`
`05:57.41`	`juice`	`cya later`
`05:57.49`	`hardwire`	`I would kill her in my sleep if it weren't for the body pillow barring my roll.`
`05:57.53`	`droops`	`i never saw those pics`
`05:58.03`	`hardwire`	`droops: should you have?`
`05:58.10`	`hardwire`	`I don't remember you being in Alaska at this party. :)`
`05:58.17`	`droops`	`sorry hardwire, i was talking to juice`
`05:58.29`	`hardwire`	`now I am interested`
`05:58.31`	`droops`	`he got us kicked out of a dive in nashville`
`05:58.32`	`hardwire`	`what are you talking about`
`05:58.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`That's juice... the wild party animal`
`05:59.05`	`hardwire`	`are you all in TN?`
`05:59.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`No, just the region`
`05:59.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`juice is over in MO`
`05:59.22`	`droops`	`thats what all that corn they feed them in missouri does to them`
`05:59.23`	`hardwire`	`did they just follow you in here?`
`05:59.25`	`droops`	`<--- missisisppi`
`05:59.32`	`droops`	`<---uses asterisk`
`05:59.50`	`hardwire`	`miss's pipi?`
`05:59.55`	`hardwire`	`been drinking?`
`06:00.01`	`Corydon76-home`	`droops: Y'all have telephones down there awready?`
`06:00.23`	`droops`	`we have them, its fun pulse dialing`
`06:00.29`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heh`
`06:00.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`mechanical switches`
`06:00.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`ground start`
`06:00.52`	`droops`	`actually the only phone in our house is a rotary, with a metal dial`
`06:01.04`	`Strom_C`	`Corydon76-home: I played with a 355 step and a number 3 crossbar this weekend...`
`06:01.19`	`droops`	`everyone else has normal phones from walmart like everyone else`
`06:01.22`	`Corydon76-home`	`Strom_C: heh`
`06:01.39`	`Corydon76-home`	`Well, time for bed for me`
`06:01.40`	`droops`	`and with that sentence, im going to bed`
`06:01.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`Night, droops`
`06:01.52`	`droops`	`hmmm`
`06:01.55`	`droops`	`nite Corydon76-home`
`06:02.08`	`hardwire`	`Strom_C: heh`
`06:02.14`	`droops`	`i got a beer with your name on it juice`
`06:02.22`	`hardwire`	`hmm`
`06:02.26`	`droops`	`and strom when is your birthday again?`
`06:02.28`	`hardwire`	`wouldn't it just be juice then?`
`06:02.38`	`Strom_C`	`droops: it was on Sunday`
`06:02.46`	`droops`	`happy bday`
`06:02.49`	`hardwire`	`Juice Beer $0 alc/vol`
`06:02.56`	`hardwire`	`%`
`06:02.59`	`droops`	`0%`
`06:02.59`	`Strom_C`	`thanks :D`
`06:03.13`	`droops`	`they are going to induce on the 6th if she hasnt had the baby yet`
`06:03.51`	`Strom_C`	`yow`
`06:04.09`	`droops`	`and we passed your bday, so now i dont have to name the kid strom`
`06:04.15`	`Strom_C`	`heh`
`06:04.24`	`rudholm`	`Strom_C played with phones and phone switches for his b-day`
`06:04.32`	`Strom_C`	`i didnt expect ya to even if he was born on sunday :)`
`06:05.13`	`*** join/#asterisk CrashHD (n=crashhd@c-67-182-170-132.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`06:05.20`	`droops`	`speaking of rotary phones, we found one of those old playskool rotary phone toys we had as kids`
`06:05.41`	`droops`	`its playskool or fisher price or some shit`
`06:05.53`	`Strom_C`	`hahah sweet`
`06:05.58`	`droops`	`ok off to bed`
`06:05.58`	`hardwire`	`droops: mod it`
`06:06.02`	`droops`	`mod it?`
`06:06.07`	`droops`	`i dont want to ruin it`
`06:06.11`	`hardwire`	`find a rotary and make it real`
`06:06.20`	`droops`	`the kid is going to grow up thinking all phones are rotary`
`06:06.31`	`hardwire`	`heheh`
`06:06.35`	`droops`	`and that robots vaccum and mop everyones house`
`06:06.42`	`hardwire`	`heheh`
`06:06.45`	`hardwire`	`woot.com`
`06:07.04`	`hardwire`	`aww it was the robo mop earlier`
`06:07.14`	`droops`	`we got that for christmas`
`06:07.39`	`droops`	`ok off to bed`
`06:14.31`	`hardwire`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120077545760&rd=1&rd=1`
`06:14.35`	`hardwire`	`!!!! for the love of god!`
`06:14.39`	`hardwire`	`don't make me eat my listing costs`
`06:14.39`	`hardwire`	`haha`
`06:16.15`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire`
`06:16.22`	`hardwire`	`I know`
`06:16.24`	`BOLIVIAN`	`http://www.telephonydepot.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=105-056-488 <---i could buy this`
`06:16.24`	`hardwire`	`don't spam`
`06:16.31`	`BOLIVIAN`	`is cheaper`
`06:16.35`	`BOLIVIAN`	`than digium`
`06:16.51`	`hardwire`	`it sure is`
`06:17.21`	`hardwire`	`hold on a tic.. lemme find digium love`
`06:17.31`	`BOLIVIAN`	`ok`
`06:17.38`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: you know`
`06:17.42`	`hardwire`	`you would be wasting money`
`06:17.52`	`hardwire`	`buy an digium x100p on ebay`
`06:17.56`	`hardwire`	`why you ask?`
`06:17.58`	`hardwire`	`heres why`
`06:18.12`	`Nugget`	`digium doesn't even make x100ps any more.`
`06:18.17`	`Nugget`	`the only ones you'll find are the clones.`
`06:18.18`	`hardwire`	`EBAY my friend!`
`06:19.25`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: one sec`
`06:19.34`	`hardwire`	`you already have two FXS which is good`
`06:19.42`	`hardwire`	`that means you can put two phones in your cafe`
`06:19.49`	`hardwire`	`and share it with one line as long as its not in use`
`06:20.03`	`hardwire`	`basically the most advanced phone splitter ever`
`06:20.05`	`hardwire`	`:)`
`06:20.32`	`hardwire`	`you could put one phone behind the bar and use it for emergencies`
`06:20.39`	`hardwire`	`when you dial it hangs up the other line immediately`
`06:21.24`	`BOLIVIAN`	`u talking about pstn or voip?`
`06:21.56`	`BOLIVIAN`	`voip is already working with 2 phones but how can i give the service of local calls`
`06:22.06`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: hold on a sec for a diagram`
`06:22.30`	`BOLIVIAN`	`using just the normal old analog land lines that telco has`
`06:22.35`	`BOLIVIAN`	`ok`
`06:25.46`	`hardwire`	`http://i10.tinypic.com/4fuulj7.png`
`06:25.56`	`hardwire`	`don't try this at home, I went to diagraming school`
`06:26.18`	`hardwire`	`the GREEEN box is asterisk linux stuff`
`06:26.23`	`hardwire`	`the blue box is the ATA`
`06:26.30`	`hardwire`	`the bug fluffy cloud is where the voices go`
`06:27.15`	`hardwire`	`I buy my telephony at walmart, definatly walmart.`
`06:27.31`	`Nugget`	`121 oak street. cincinatti ohio.`
`06:27.40`	`Nugget`	`97x. blam. the future of rock and roll.`
`06:27.42`	`BOLIVIAN`	`theres no green box , u mean where the phone picture is?`
`06:27.47`	`hardwire`	`yeh`
`06:27.51`	`hardwire`	`isn't that green?`
`06:28.10`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: !`
`06:31.29`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire i dont get it`
`06:31.36`	`BOLIVIAN`	`lets go step by step will ya`
`06:31.58`	`Nugget`	`Step 1: cut a hole in a box.`
`06:32.02`	`BOLIVIAN`	`haha`
`06:32.03`	`BOLIVIAN`	`wait`
`06:32.15`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i dont get how is conected the ATA`
`06:32.19`	`BOLIVIAN`	`to the green box`
`06:32.29`	`BOLIVIAN`	`since the 2 ports are already in use with the 2phones`
`06:32.30`	`hardwire`	`cat-5`
`06:32.30`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`06:32.46`	`BOLIVIAN`	`u mean the ATA is conected to my PC`
`06:32.55`	`BOLIVIAN`	`through the LAN port?`
`06:32.58`	`hardwire`	`the green box is a PC running asterisk`
`06:33.06`	`hardwire`	`the ATA is connected via LAN`
`06:33.19`	`BOLIVIAN`	`directly to the switch right`
`06:33.22`	`BOLIVIAN`	`the same as my pc`
`06:33.25`	`hardwire`	`so we are all in agreement that the phone box is green?`
`06:33.30`	`hardwire`	`I'm not just tripping?`
`06:34.10`	`BOLIVIAN`	`the FXO to the phone land`
`06:34.12`	`BOLIVIAN`	`is not clear`
`06:34.19`	`hardwire`	`hehe`
`06:34.26`	`BOLIVIAN`	`wich one has the fxo port`
`06:34.34`	`BOLIVIAN`	`?`
`06:34.35`	`hardwire`	`if you buy a PCI card for your PC that has an FXO port on it`
`06:34.39`	`hardwire`	`then you connect that to the PSTN`
`06:34.49`	`BOLIVIAN`	`oh u mean x100p`
`06:34.51`	`hardwire`	`the PCI card I am suggesting is almost $10`
`06:35.05`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: whats the x100p clone called?`
`06:35.40`	`Nugget`	`"clone x100p"`
`06:35.47`	`BOLIVIAN`	`its ok i already find an original on ebay`
`06:35.49`	`hardwire`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/Professional-OEM-X100P-FXO-PCI-Digium-Asterisk-IP-PBX_W0QQitemZ160077403919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`06:35.58`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: har`
`06:36.24`	`Nugget`	`The x100p was nothing more than an intel softmodem card with a very specific firmware version which digium molested into being an FXO.`
`06:36.34`	`hardwire`	`haha`
`06:36.34`	`hardwire`	`nice`
`06:36.39`	`BOLIVIAN`	`http://cgi.ebay.com/Low-Profile-Authentic-X100P-FXO-Digium-Asterisk-VoIP_W0QQitemZ130072596989QQihZ003QQcategoryZ61841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem`
`06:36.39`	`hardwire`	`that explains the modem feel`
`06:36.51`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: those load via zaptel drivers`
`06:36.55`	`Nugget`	`they're crap, which is a large part of why digium no longer sells them`
`06:37.00`	`hardwire`	`youa re running linux on a PC that you can use right?`
`06:37.04`	`Juggie`	`you are better off with an ATA`
`06:37.11`	`*** join/#asterisk erickperez (n=lolo@200.75.246.173)`
`06:37.17`	`hardwire`	`Juggie: ATA's don't cost $10!`
`06:37.17`	`erickperez`	`Hi all...`
`06:37.20`	`hardwire`	`oh well`
`06:37.29`	`BOLIVIAN`	`not yet but i already donwloaded centos`
`06:37.30`	`Juggie`	`hardwire, hah yah, but you will have alot less problems`
`06:37.31`	`hardwire`	`Juggie: he is in africa how good can it be right?`
`06:37.48`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: good enough`
`06:37.52`	`erickperez`	`I have some question about the Queues feature...somebody here can help with it?`
`06:38.07`	`Nugget`	`there is absolutely nothing "professional" about an x100p, clone or with the litle asterisk sticker.`
`06:38.08`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: you wondered in here on a friday night asking questions?`
`06:38.32`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: yup...learning asterisk with a VIA EPIA board...`
`06:38.37`	`hardwire`	`you are left with the funny smelling stinking left overs of a more active society that will probably steal your identity faster than help you`
`06:38.54`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: what board?`
`06:39.11`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: linux people party on friday nights in front of their computers :))`
`06:39.19`	`hardwire`	`its sad but true`
`06:39.27`	`Nugget`	`ew, did someone just call me a linux person?`
`06:39.31`	`Nugget`	`linux is poo.`
`06:39.40`	`hardwire`	`sigh`
`06:39.45`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: whats your issue?`
`06:39.46`	`erickperez`	`LOL`
`06:39.59`	`jql`	`linux is poo?`
`06:40.08`	`Nugget`	`indeed.`
`06:40.10`	`jql`	`what should I be using? heh`
`06:40.14`	`hardwire`	`as the current dominator of this channel I prohibit this discussion`
`06:40.25`	`pids`	`Plan 9 like Nugget appears to use.`
`06:40.39`	`Nugget`	`plan9 is old and busted. inferno is where it's at.`
`06:40.41`	`jql`	`yeah... I'm gonna get right on that`
`06:40.59`	`erickperez`	`I have a queue with 4 members. I have used the AgentCallbackLogin to log in just one agent. However when someone enters the queue asterisk rings all 4 extensions even when only one agent is "looged in"`
`06:41.04`	`Nugget`	`there's nothing you can do with linux that you couldn't be doing better or easier with some other operating system.`
`06:41.06`	`pids`	`the more obscure the os the better asterisk runs on it.`
`06:41.21`	`Nugget`	`well, except for asterisk, which poses a constant hemorrhoid for me.`
`06:41.23`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: done a show queues request in the CLI?`
`06:41.42`	`hardwire`	`inferno eh?`
`06:41.48`	`*** join/#asterisk s1gny\|wrk (n=s1gny@p54915A95.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`06:41.49`	`erickperez`	`chrom01*CLI> show queues`
`06:41.50`	`erickperez`	`default has 1 calls (max unlimited) in 'rrmemory' strategy (0s holdtime), W:0, C:0, A:1, SL:0.0% within 0s`
`06:41.50`	`erickperez`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:41.50`	`erickperez`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:41.50`	`erickperez`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:41.51`	`erickperez`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:41.53`	`erickperez`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:41.55`	`erickperez`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:41.57`	`erickperez`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:41.58`	`*** part/#asterisk s1gny\|wrk (n=s1gny@p54915A95.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`06:42.03`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: 4 phones are ringing you say?`
`06:42.10`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire wether i buy x100p or the HT 488 ATA i dont have to worry about reverse polarity? i ask you this cause i been told that the telco here has to give u persmision to revert polarity other way any harware to control time needs to know when the other party lift the auricular`
`06:42.13`	`hardwire`	`and /me counts 4 phones in the queue`
`06:42.18`	`BOLIVIAN`	`to start counting the time`
`06:42.22`	`erickperez`	`chrom01*CLI> show agents`
`06:42.22`	`erickperez`	`1000 (oper 0) available at '1001@default' (musiconhold is 'default')`
`06:42.22`	`erickperez`	`1001 (oper 1) not logged in (musiconhold is 'default')`
`06:42.22`	`erickperez`	`1002 (oper 2) not logged in (musiconhold is 'default')`
`06:42.22`	`erickperez`	`1003 (oper 3) not logged in (musiconhold is 'default')`
`06:42.22`	`erickperez`	`4 agents configured [1 online , 3 offline]`
`06:42.30`	`pids`	`Nugget, mount and NFS drive under Windows?`
`06:42.37`	`BOLIVIAN`	`in your words asterisk does that job right?`
`06:42.41`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: and?`
`06:42.45`	`hardwire`	`those are completely unrelated`
`06:43.00`	`Nugget`	`who said anything about Windows?`
`06:43.20`	`pids`	`<Nugget> there's nothing you can do with linux that you couldn't be doing better or easier with some other operating system.`
`06:43.20`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: why do you need RP?`
`06:43.20`	`Nugget`	`for nfs windows is obviously not the best choice, but then again neither is linux.`
`06:43.33`	`Nugget`	`"some other" doesn't mean "windows"`
`06:43.39`	`Nugget`	`learn to count higher than two.`
`06:43.45`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: well, I think that if I create a queue with 4 agents (ext 1,2,3,4) but only one agent is logged in..shouldn't asterisk ring only the extension of the agent that is logged in?`
`06:43.45`	`rudholm`	`agreed, Linux seems dodgy with NFS`
`06:43.58`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: well`
`06:44.05`	`hardwire`	`your queues is set to static sip devices`
`06:44.11`	`hardwire`	`and your agents aren't sip devices`
`06:44.16`	`rudholm`	`Solaris does NFS quite nicely, though.`
`06:44.18`	`Nugget`	`linux has weird udp path discovery issues with nfs and continues to be plagued with performance issues in that area.`
`06:44.27`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: so make your queues call agents`
`06:44.31`	`hardwire`	`not sips`
`06:45.04`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: And how should I do that?`
`06:45.18`	`hardwire`	`I suggest the following`
`06:45.27`	`hardwire`	`http://www.google.com/search?q=queues+agents+asterisk`
`06:46.05`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: udp path discovery?`
`06:46.07`	`hardwire`	`the part that blinks in my brain when I look at it is this`
`06:46.12`	`hardwire`	`queue1]`
`06:46.12`	`hardwire`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:46.25`	`hardwire`	`not Sip/1001`
`06:46.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NFS = No File Security...`
`06:46.42`	`hardwire`	`IPSEC!`
`06:46.46`	`Nugget`	`rudholm: yeah, linux has some wonky mtu discovery mechanism that uses udp and apparently only makes sense in linux-land. It causes endless problems as soon as you need to pass nfs traffic across or through a non-linux system.`
`06:46.55`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ok...let me change that and try ipso facto!`
`06:47.04`	`Nugget`	`google for t`
`06:47.20`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: ok, I thought you might be talking about path mtu discovery but wasn't sure`
`06:47.21`	`hardwire`	`wow`
`06:47.24`	`hardwire`	`AT&T is T`
`06:47.24`	`Nugget`	`"udp path discovery linux nfs" or something along those lines and you'll find plenty of wailing and gnashing teeth`
`06:47.41`	`hardwire`	`hah`
`06:48.01`	`hardwire`	`I also wikipediad for T`
`06:48.02`	`hardwire`	`amazing`
`06:48.11`	`hardwire`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T`
`06:48.30`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardware when i tryed to buy an argentinian card that controls time with normal line phones, the seller told me that I have to ask permision to the telco so the card can work. The telco switch the line to some state that i dont know and then the card is able to start counting. some payphones here in order to work and you able to be hear by the other party you have to push a botton and then the phone starts couting the time`
`06:48.55`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: does your seller live in a shack?`
`06:49.08`	`rudholm`	`Linux seems to have NFS problems even with both sides are Linux`
`06:49.15`	`rudholm`	`in my experience`
`06:49.26`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: this method we proposed here tonight isn't counting anything.`
`06:49.34`	`hardwire`	`its like a regular phone that you would use anywhere in the world`
`06:49.44`	`BOLIVIAN`	`harwire but i need to control the time`
`06:49.48`	`hardwire`	`ok`
`06:49.50`	`hardwire`	`you wanna know how?`
`06:49.52`	`BOLIVIAN`	`so in that way i need to know how to charge`
`06:49.58`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: back in the day when all I used was Solaris, I was really surprised to find how badly NFS was implemented in Linux.`
`06:50.00`	`BOLIVIAN`	`my client`
`06:50.04`	`BOLIVIAN`	`how much to charge him`
`06:50.09`	`hardwire`	`when a person dials asterisk answers right?`
`06:50.18`	`hardwire`	`then asterisk makes a phone call related to what the person dialed`
`06:50.23`	`Nugget`	`The Linux kernel developer community seems to value "clever" over "reliable" and it shows in a lot of areas.`
`06:50.23`	`hardwire`	`so you have two phone connections here`
`06:50.29`	`hardwire`	`one to the phone.. one to the telco`
`06:50.44`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: oh god yes, it's like they're all 15 years old and have ego problems`
`06:50.45`	`hardwire`	`asterisk, in the middle.. can hang up a phone call`
`06:50.54`	`hardwire`	`it just goes click`
`06:51.02`	`hardwire`	`just like any other phone`
`06:51.12`	`BOLIVIAN`	`ok but it has a way`
`06:51.15`	`hardwire`	`?`
`06:51.16`	`BOLIVIAN`	`to control time right?`
`06:51.18`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: You rock man...I saw my error, I was typing "Agents" instead of "Agent".....`
`06:51.26`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: and I have been boozing`
`06:51.41`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i mean asterisk can control the duration of the call i can see on my screen`
`06:51.45`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: its not controling time`
`06:51.50`	`pids`	`Nugget, as compared to what BSD?`
`06:51.51`	`hardwire`	`its just cutting a conversation short`
`06:51.56`	`Nugget`	`pids: do keep up.`
`06:52.08`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i dont want to control the call in the sense of finishing`
`06:52.17`	`BOLIVIAN`	`but just in the sense of know how many minutes`
`06:52.25`	`BOLIVIAN`	`my client spoke`
`06:52.28`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: does the telco knock on peoples door when some dudes mom grabs his phone and hangs up then tells him to go do the dishes?`
`06:52.34`	`hardwire`	`if so you guys are fucked`
`06:52.57`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: thanks thanks thanks...now let's play with another feature...I may ask some more later on...Long Live Friday Nights!!!`
`06:53.08`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: shoot me if I spend another friday night here`
`06:53.17`	`hardwire`	`seriously`
`06:53.18`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hah`
`06:53.19`	`hardwire`	`want my address`
`06:53.26`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: I often get the feeling that linux developers have never actually had to use Linux in a real production environment.`
`06:53.28`	`hardwire`	`brb.. g/f is finally home`
`06:53.30`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: I bet you a beer that you will be here...`
`06:53.39`	`hardwire`	`erickperez: like I could collect`
`06:53.54`	`Nugget`	`Solaris is for doing things with your computer. Linux is for doing things to your computer.`
`06:54.13`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: and the comments in the kernel source like "um, Linus, is this right?" don't inspire confidence.`
`06:54.18`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`06:54.37`	`pids`	`What I am trying ot figure out is how to play an announcement to both legs of a bridged call at the same time on connect.`
`06:54.57`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: yeah, I wish we used more Solaris and less Linux at work.`
`06:55.05`	`erickperez`	`hardwire: Such a morale!!! LOL`
`06:55.23`	`Nugget`	`That said, I don't personally use Solaris. I've never had a situation where Sun's hardware offerings made sense. I've got more than a few friends who fell into the "Solaris X86" trap.`
`06:55.27`	`*** part/#asterisk Bhaal (i=bhaal@freenode/staff/bhaal)`
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`06:55.42`	`hardwire`	`can anybody else explain to BOLIVIAN how this works?`
`06:55.53`	`hardwire`	`I don't think I am doing it justice`
`06:56.00`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hah just wait a sec`
`06:56.04`	`BOLIVIAN`	`u didnt read what i put`
`06:56.11`	`pids`	`The problem whith solaris at this point is that you don't know is Sun is going to be around alot longer.`
`06:56.15`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i just asked if u can calculate the time`
`06:56.16`	`hardwire`	`maybe you should draw me a diagram!`
`06:56.17`	`rudholm`	`Nugget: I used Solaris both as a personal desktop and professionally for many years. lately I haven't, however.`
`06:56.26`	`Nugget`	`Yeah, that's a valid concern, pids.`
`06:56.28`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i just asked if u can calculate the time with asterisk`
`06:56.33`	`BOLIVIAN`	`the duration of the call`
`06:56.35`	`Nugget`	`Sun really seems to be a solution looking for a problem these days.`
`06:56.37`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: when asterisk makes the call it can define an timeout for the current call`
`06:56.39`	`hardwire`	`then just hang up`
`06:56.43`	`hardwire`	`thats it`
`06:56.52`	`hardwire`	`so person picks up phone`
`06:56.53`	`hardwire`	`dials number`
`06:57.00`	`hardwire`	`asterisk says "limited to 10 minutes"`
`06:57.03`	`hardwire`	`call goes through`
`06:57.05`	`hardwire`	`they talk`
`06:57.09`	`hardwire`	`it says "time almost up"`
`06:57.16`	`BOLIVIAN`	`what if i dont want to put a limit`
`06:57.26`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i just want to know how much time he spoke`
`06:57.31`	`hardwire`	`ok`
`06:57.35`	`rudholm`	`Sun has some bright people, good research, and quality technology, but they can't seem to market very well`
`06:57.38`	`hardwire`	`thats called Call Detail Recording`
`06:57.38`	`BOLIVIAN`	`does asterisk show me that in the screen?`
`06:57.42`	`pids`	`BOLIVIAN, look in the CDR?`
`06:57.43`	`hardwire`	`you operate a cybercafe right?`
`06:57.46`	`Nugget`	`I'm 90% FreeBSD these days with a smattering of Linux where I can't otherwise avoid it, largely for hardware or specific software support (like Oracle or GridMP)`
`06:57.54`	`BOLIVIAN`	`yes`
`06:57.58`	`Nugget`	`And Macs on the desktop.`
`06:58.01`	`hardwire`	`what are you going to do, monitor the time then walk up to his booth with a bat that says "Collect" on it?`
`06:58.16`	`Nugget`	`Life is too short to tolerate X11.`
`06:58.18`	`rudholm`	`yeah, I reluctantly moved my desktop at work from FBSD to Linux for some specific software support needs.`
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`06:58.36`	`wnfaknd`	`hello folks, what OS would you recommend I run for asterisk?`
`06:58.38`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: What you're asking is: Does the telco use reverse polarity to signal a start/end duration of the call? Answer: YES`
`06:58.39`	`pids`	`Then write an AGI app that reads the CDR and does the calculation you need. Its a 10 minute job in perl`
`06:58.41`	`rudholm`	`happily, my employer is a BSD shop`
`06:58.42`	`wnfaknd`	`or it does not matter?`
`06:58.46`	`rudholm`	`perhaps the BSD shop`
`06:58.48`	`Nugget`	`wnfaknd: whichever Linux distro floats your boat.`
`06:58.54`	`BOLIVIAN`	`erick yes`
`06:59.02`	`wnfaknd`	`Nugget, which one did you go with?`
`06:59.14`	`Nugget`	`I went with Slackware which is almost certainly not what you want.`
`06:59.26`	`wnfaknd`	`in fact, it is my favorite`
`06:59.28`	`BOLIVIAN`	`and harwire told me that i couls use an ATA with an FXO port to be able to control (see the time my client used)`
`06:59.31`	`Nugget`	`Because Slackware is only for people who wouldn't ask the question you just did. :)`
`06:59.33`	`pids`	`I went with slack, 10 years ago ;)`
`06:59.34`	`BOLIVIAN`	`with asterisk`
`06:59.36`	`wnfaknd`	`or at least it was when i was heavily into linux back in the late 90s :)`
`06:59.39`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: is not asterisk who control the polarity, is your card (digium, sangoma,etc)`
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`06:59.55`	`wnfaknd`	`but i have been out of the linux world for 7 years`
`07:00.12`	`BOLIVIAN`	`erick he said an ATA with an FXO port would be enough`
`07:00.19`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: there has got to be an off the shelf solution for what you want`
`07:00.23`	`hardwire`	`like no asterisk`
`07:00.25`	`hardwire`	`no voip`
`07:00.30`	`hardwire`	`just get-r-dun`
`07:00.31`	`nn`	`anyone set up any kind of half-duplex (VHF radio via soundcard for example) autopatch using *?`
`07:00.38`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: you need to understand that asterisk can see the duration of the call from pickup time, just like your telco. And yes, your ATA will work...`
`07:01.02`	`Nugget`	`wnfaknd: then you'd feel right at home with Slackware. It hasn't changed a bit since you last saw it. :)`
`07:01.04`	`pids`	`What was that disk set called, Yagers somthing or other`
`07:01.10`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: then you can see on the CDR how much time the customer has been talking....in a realtime CDR of course.`
`07:01.14`	`wnfaknd`	`awesome`
`07:01.26`	`BOLIVIAN`	`whats a CDR`
`07:01.35`	`jql`	`Yggdrasil`
`07:01.36`	`Nugget`	`CDR is a log of call activity.`
`07:01.38`	`Nugget`	`Call Detail Record.`
`07:01.41`	`rudholm`	`Call Detail Record`
`07:01.43`	`Nugget`	`who called who and when.`
`07:01.44`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: inferno doesn't boot in qemu :(`
`07:01.49`	`BOLIVIAN`	`then the answer is yes`
`07:01.57`	`BOLIVIAN`	`so i will buy the ATA`
`07:02.05`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: CDR Call Detail Record, is what any phone company uses to know how much time you spent on a call.`
`07:02.06`	`Nugget`	`either that or it's a recordable cd and you're in the wrong channel. :)`
`07:02.08`	`BOLIVIAN`	`erick u from latin america?`
`07:02.17`	`hardwire`	`haha`
`07:02.18`	`hardwire`	`no`
`07:02.18`	`pids`	`BOLIVIAN, so you want to know how long the caller has been on the phone correct?`
`07:02.24`	`wnfaknd`	`Nugget, perhaps you can help me a little. I'm looking to get asterisk running by monday. Im right now shopping for a virtual private host. I actually got a VPS at godaddy, but it turns out they are crap. Do you knwo or recommend any VPS?`
`07:02.24`	`BOLIVIAN`	`yes pids`
`07:02.28`	`hardwire`	`sigh`
`07:02.59`	`Nugget`	`wnfaknd: sorry, no. I would say in general you might want to play around with one of the bootable asterisk solutions like asterisknow to get a feel for things.`
`07:03.08`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i only have an ATA with 2 fxs port, so i have to buy an x100p or an ATA with an fxo port and install asterisk and thats all`
`07:03.12`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: Im from Panama in Central America. And a CDR can show you a lot of things, including call time, caller id, and a bunch of other things...`
`07:03.15`	`pids`	`Why not look at the DIALEDTIME variable in asterisk?`
`07:03.21`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: http://i12.tinypic.com/2jad92d.png :(`
`07:03.32`	`Nugget`	`not a good solution for a permanent deployment of asterisk but it's a great way to fiddle with a small time investment.`
`07:04.06`	`Nugget`	`hardwire: bummer.`
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`07:04.13`	`BOLIVIAN`	`erick anyway i need a fxo port right`
`07:04.18`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: indeed`
`07:04.19`	`BOLIVIAN`	`in any case`
`07:04.22`	`Nugget`	`inferno is a neat system in a totally academic and wholly impractical way.`
`07:04.23`	`wnfaknd`	`Nugget, i played with it, but dont feel like making a box for it and paying a few hundred bucks a month to co-locate it somewhere, hence the VPS solution seems like it would work for with just asterisk without the fancy GUI`
`07:04.25`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: yup`
`07:04.36`	`wnfaknd`	`i was always a console type of man anyway :)`
`07:04.47`	`Nugget`	`the fancy gui is completely avoidable. you're on the right track there.`
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`07:04.52`	`Dude456`	`hey all I have some inbound traffic that i want to block out of my linksys router, but it doesn't have any blocking capabilities.. is there any other solution to keep this traffic from getting to my switch?`
`07:04.56`	`hardwire`	`you could even program asterisk to chime into the conversation every minute with "You owe me so and so cents, you better pay me bitch"`
`07:04.56`	`Nugget`	`dunno about a VPS, though, sorry.`
`07:05.09`	`BOLIVIAN`	`thanks hardwire u r very gentle only that i thought phones lines worked different in latin america than in usa`
`07:05.10`	`wnfaknd`	`ok, thanks for your help. I'll hang out here for while :)`
`07:05.15`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: as pids said: ${DIALEDTIME}: Time since the number was dialed (only works when dialed party answers the line?!)`
`07:05.17`	`hardwire`	`did you hear that?!`
`07:05.20`	`hardwire`	`I'm gentle`
`07:05.22`	`hardwire`	`don't you forget it`
`07:05.35`	`wnfaknd`	`lol`
`07:05.41`	`erickperez`	`lol`
`07:05.42`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: what the fuck would I know about phones in latin america!`
`07:05.55`	`wnfaknd`	`not so gentle anymore`
`07:06.01`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire cause the technology comes from USA`
`07:06.01`	`*** join/#asterisk dseeb_ (n=dcb@58.165.244.192)`
`07:06.11`	`hardwire`	`as does most things red white and blue`
`07:06.13`	`hardwire`	`like the telephone`
`07:06.15`	`Nugget`	`The asterisk CDR can't be used to track call-in-progress time because CDR records aren't written until the call is complete.`
`07:06.15`	`BOLIVIAN`	`only the telco bastards here dont want u to put that business`
`07:06.21`	`BOLIVIAN`	`they want u too as a partner`
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`07:06.35`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb_] by ChanServ`
`07:06.35`	`erickperez`	`Nugget: My mistake...I was thinking of the variable...`
`07:06.47`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: ast manager interface should do the trick`
`07:06.49`	`hardwire`	`just poll and show`
`07:06.55`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: heavy programming background?`
`07:07.09`	`BOLIVIAN`	`im obsolete`
`07:07.09`	`Nugget`	`yeah, or you could hack up something a bit more crude (but simple) with an AGI.`
`07:07.12`	`erickperez`	`BOLIVIAN: That happens when the telco reverses polarity...it's an everyday thing down here...shit happens.`
`07:07.15`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i only know strutured programming`
`07:07.20`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: yeh I guess`
`07:07.24`	`hardwire`	`just set a variable pre-call`
`07:07.27`	`nn`	`no ideas?`
`07:07.35`	`hardwire`	`random ID and randomid-timestamp`
`07:07.39`	`hardwire`	`then kill it afterward`
`07:08.06`	`hardwire`	`you know I really wanted to play with inferno too?`
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`07:08.38`	`hardwire`	`I mean anything with Minesweeper is hawt`
`07:08.47`	`nn`	`i need to get this shits up and running soon :)`
`07:08.56`	`hardwire`	`oh yes?`
`07:09.06`	`crshman`	`hello all, i'm having a problem with one of my sip phones....connects to asterisk and i try to follow the logs but they don't say anything useful.....`
`07:09.14`	`hardwire`	`Nugget: is Charon a port of Dillo ?`
`07:09.22`	`crshman`	`only this: "chan_sip.c:7231 check_user_full: Setting NAT on RTP to 524288" that is the last message before asterisk stops transmission`
`07:09.26`	`pids`	`I need to know how to play a message to both sides of a call when they connect.`
`07:09.53`	`nn`	`noones done anything half-duplex? :)`
`07:09.54`	`hardwire`	`pids: I knew how to do that at one point`
`07:09.59`	`Nugget`	`I don't know.`
`07:10.01`	`hardwire`	`pids: while they are talking or before?`
`07:10.07`	`jql`	`crshman: that doesn't ring any bells`
`07:10.10`	`rudholm`	`crshman: try "sip debug" from the CLI`
`07:10.14`	`hardwire`	`cause you can join channels after playback`
`07:10.15`	`pids`	`before, upon connect`
`07:10.23`	`nn`	`maybe chan_alsa with an extra sound card attached to the radio.. but how to key it? :)`
`07:10.31`	`rudholm`	`that enables very verbose sip monitoring at the console`
`07:10.34`	`pids`	`Just a simple "This call is being recorded" type pf thing`
`07:10.37`	`rudholm`	`disable it with "sip no debug"`
`07:10.45`	`hardwire`	`pids: yeh.. hmm..`
`07:10.56`	`hardwire`	`you could bind the call to a meetme and have a background noise happen`
`07:10.57`	`pids`	`Dial only does one side`
`07:10.59`	`crshman`	`ok this is wierd...."Ignoring this INVITE request`
`07:11.00`	`crshman`	`"`
`07:11.12`	`crshman`	`that's what the sip shows...i can't see as to why though....hmmm`
`07:11.22`	`hardwire`	`pids: dial can do both sides`
`07:11.24`	`hardwire`	`sorta`
`07:11.30`	`pids`	`hardwire, uggh thats a huge waste of resources for a simple bridged call`
`07:11.31`	`pids`	`how?`
`07:11.44`	`hardwire`	`the dialplan collects info right?`
`07:11.47`	`hardwire`	`this is the number`
`07:11.53`	`hardwire`	`its up to your crazy moxy to do the rest`
`07:12.00`	`hardwire`	`just initiate asterisk calling the party`
`07:12.10`	`hardwire`	`then give them a playback when they answer`
`07:12.14`	`hardwire`	`and join the channels`
`07:12.58`	`hardwire`	`so when playback is done on the caller side it will just play ringing until the remote side finishes playback and then asterisk joins them`
`07:13.06`	`hardwire`	`I saw this on a thread a long time ago`
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`07:13.18`	`pids`	`on dev or users?`
`07:13.46`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire if i buy the ATA could i use an asterisk similar program but for windows? linux seems too much hassle for intermediate users`
`07:14.14`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: asterisk is everywhere`
`07:14.26`	`hardwire`	`there are windows pbx's too`
`07:14.41`	`BOLIVIAN`	`do u know one?`
`07:14.46`	`hardwire`	`nope`
`07:14.50`	`pids`	`asterisk under windows is buggy`
`07:14.57`	`jql`	`windows pbx's give me nightmares`
`07:15.00`	`jql`	`my day job...`
`07:15.00`	`BOLIVIAN`	`why do u ask if i know programming?`
`07:15.15`	`hardwire`	`cause you will need it if you want to ever make something do what you want`
`07:15.16`	`hardwire`	`ever`
`07:15.58`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i know structured programing`
`07:16.11`	`BOLIVIAN`	`im learning object progrmaming`
`07:16.12`	`pids`	`BOLIVIAN, define structured?`
`07:16.14`	`BOLIVIAN`	`but its difficult`
`07:16.23`	`pids`	`which language?`
`07:16.27`	`BOLIVIAN`	`structured the one invented by dijstra`
`07:16.33`	`BOLIVIAN`	`C`
`07:16.37`	`hardwire`	`?`
`07:16.45`	`BOLIVIAN`	`and VBA`
`07:17.08`	`BOLIVIAN`	`im learning object orientation in java but the logic is different`
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`07:17.22`	`crshman`	`does anyone have any experience integrating asterisk with openser? or ser?`
`07:17.25`	`jql`	`edsger would be ashamed`
`07:17.29`	`hardwire`	`haha`
`07:17.30`	`hardwire`	`I know`
`07:17.31`	`hardwire`	`totally`
`07:17.34`	`rudholm`	`yeah, and once you learn OO, procedural programming starts to look weird`
`07:17.35`	`jql`	`crshman: yeah`
`07:17.37`	`hardwire`	`him grave you dead`
`07:18.13`	`hardwire`	`BOLIVIAN: python is where its at :)`
`07:18.30`	`HaMYaI`	`within meetme, DTMF doesn't seem to work for ZAP client but for SIP`
`07:18.38`	`HaMYaI`	`anyone knows why?`
`07:18.41`	`BOLIVIAN`	`python is for programming operating systems right`
`07:18.43`	`pids`	`BOLIVIAN, so you need to write something for Asterisk?`
`07:19.01`	`BOLIVIAN`	`no pids`
`07:19.09`	`BOLIVIAN`	`i have to buy the hardware first`
`07:19.12`	`pids`	`HaMYaI, DTMF under Asterisk is a pain in the butt`
`07:19.27`	`HaMYaI`	`or anyone knows what settings reflect this?`
`07:20.05`	`BOLIVIAN`	`this is a nice chan`
`07:20.12`	`BOLIVIAN`	`very well educated ppl`
`07:20.27`	`putzz`	`2+2=5!`
`07:20.39`	`pids`	`HaMYaI, what kind of zap hardware?`
`07:20.56`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: E100P`
`07:21.14`	`wnfaknd`	`anyone heard of lylix.net as a hosting solution?`
`07:21.28`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: it's been working for all other things but not in meetme`
`07:21.28`	`hardwire`	`fucking $10 from the reserve price!`
`07:21.31`	`hardwire`	`its hard to sell on ebay`
`07:22.19`	`BOLIVIAN`	`some sellers on ebay dont sell to southamerica`
`07:22.25`	`BOLIVIAN`	`dont ship`
`07:22.34`	`BOLIVIAN`	`maybe they are affraid of frauds`
`07:22.36`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: are you using meetme at all?`
`07:22.42`	`BOLIVIAN`	`its understandable`
`07:23.36`	`pids`	`HaMYaI, yes but not with zap`
`07:24.14`	`hardwire`	`zapzap`
`07:25.18`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: both ZAP and SIP entering meetme with mode "1MXqm" and I allowed "*" extension for them to exit meetme`
`07:25.19`	`hardwire`	`I should go to sleep`
`07:25.19`	`hardwire`	`tata all`
`07:25.20`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: it only works for SIP client but not ZAP`
`07:25.24`	`hardwire`	`no party harty hardwhire`
`07:25.26`	`hardwire`	`:(`
`07:26.30`	`BOLIVIAN`	`hardwire u stil there`
`07:28.27`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: SIP has dtmfmode=RFC2833 but I haven't set it for ZAP`
`07:28.32`	`BOLIVIAN`	`what is a pen pal?`
`07:28.58`	`HaMYaI`	`don't know if it's valid anyway`
`07:31.51`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: or E100P doesn't have hardware DTMF detection`
`07:32.01`	`pids`	`HaMYaI, I think it does`
`07:32.20`	`pids`	`Did you check the bug tracker and the mailing list?`
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`07:33.12`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: nope, haven't tried that`
`07:33.19`	`FuriousGeorge`	`hey all... you guys install 64bit or 32bit linux for asterisk?`
`07:33.41`	`pids`	`FuriousGeorge, both`
`07:33.59`	`FuriousGeorge`	`pids: with a 64bit chip, i mean, specifically`
`07:34.09`	`FuriousGeorge`	`modern athlon or opteron`
`07:34.32`	`pids`	`Both`
`07:34.53`	`pids`	`HaMYaI, you could try relaxdtmf=yes`
`07:35.06`	`FuriousGeorge`	`i was having trouble installing my os with 64bit live cd and i got to feeling it would be sacrilege to install 32bit os`
`07:35.13`	`pids`	`It looks like the E100p has some issues of dtmf echo`
`07:35.35`	`FuriousGeorge`	`pids: so what kind of factors in your case determine if you install 64 or 32 bit os on an opteron (For instance)`
`07:35.50`	`pids`	`FuriousGeorge, nope, just a waste of hardware`
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`07:36.20`	`pids`	`They usually dont have to do so much with asterisk but more have to do with memory`
`07:36.56`	`pids`	`On my production asterisk servers we have greater they 4gb of memory installed`
`07:36.58`	`FuriousGeorge`	`just thought i'd ask in here since this mb, if it will act right, will run asterisk primarily`
`07:37.15`	`FuriousGeorge`	`thats a lot of mem for *. how many users?`
`07:38.07`	`pids`	`We only run about 500-600 per server but we have alot of custom applications that run from asterisk`
`07:38.55`	`pids`	`I'm not a pbx provider but am a service provider for mobile applications`
`07:39.33`	`FuriousGeorge`	`cool`
`07:39.53`	`pids`	`nufone !`
`07:39.57`	`pids`	`hehe`
`07:51.06`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: what do you use for programming for those applications?`
`07:51.15`	`pids`	`C and perl`
`07:51.50`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: I am using php and last i had some issues with memory too`
`07:53.20`	`pids`	`Its not so much as having leak or hogging issues, its more to do with that we do alot of recording, which really sucks up the bits.`
`07:54.46`	`HaMYaI`	`pids: php generally limited memory consumption for scripting to 8M only`
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`08:19.57`	`erickperez`	`Can anyone recommend an opensource outbound only dialer?`
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`13:23.52`	`matt_`	`hello, atm i have a fine voip provider but it dosn't route UK 90 numbers`
`13:24.09`	`matt_`	`that are normally used for voting and tv stuff`
`13:24.32`	`matt_`	`does anybody know of a voip provider that i can put some money on and it will allow me to make calls to 90 numbers`
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`13:33.34`	`ThoMe`	`hallo`
`13:33.39`	`ThoMe`	`kann hier wer deutsch?`
`13:37.59`	`znoG`	`not me`
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`13:40.41`	`ThoMe`	`znoG: :-)`
`13:42.36`	`ThoMe`	`znoG: can u help me pls?`
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`13:46.25`	`ThoMe`	`hello?`
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`13:48.03`	`ThoMe`	`hello?`
`13:48.53`	`SomeOne1`	`hi`
`13:49.37`	`ThoMe`	`i like if when i press 9+$number then hidden the number of the remote display, if i press 1+$number then is my extention my callid and if i press only my normal number then is my extentnion default .. how i can make it?`
`13:49.45`	`ThoMe`	`i have: exten => _X.,1,SetCallerID(24)`
`13:49.49`	`ThoMe`	`exten => _1.,1,SetCallerID(${CALLERID(num)})`
`13:49.53`	`ThoMe`	`and`
`13:49.53`	`ThoMe`	`exten => _9.,1,SetCallerPres(prohib_not_screened)`
`13:49.57`	`ThoMe`	`what is wrong?`
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`14:03.15`	`ThoMe`	`how i can set groups in asterisk? if the call to my msn 123456 then i like ring my group X with the member, 1, 2, ,3 hm?`
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`14:06.35`	`ThoMe`	`anthm: hi. can u help me pls?`
`14:06.40`	`ThoMe`	`how i can set groups in asterisk? if the call to my msn 123456 then i like ring my group X with the member, 1, 2, ,3 hm?`
`14:08.11`	`anthm`	`?`
`14:09.17`	`ThoMe`	`anthm: i need a groups. "members". if comming a call to the msn "123456" then ring the group "members". and in members r the 1, 2, 3..?`
`14:09.20`	`ThoMe`	`sorry my english :/`
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`14:10.20`	`anthm`	`umm, i guess you could make global vars in your dialplan be a bunch of extens with & between them as groups`
`14:10.52`	`anthm`	`then Dial(${GROUP1}) later`
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`14:30.53`	`ThoMe`	`anthm: Dial(IAX2/26/SIP/50/SIP/51 ? hmm?`
`14:30.56`	`ThoMe`	`)`
`14:31.23`	`anthm`	`with & in between`
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`14:31.56`	`matt_`	`anthm, i have single numbers on multiple lines`
`14:32.00`	`matt_`	`i just do this ...`
`14:32.26`	`matt_`	`exten => 100,1,Dial(SIP/line1&SIP/line2&SIP/line3,30,r)`
`14:33.03`	`matt_`	`i surpose you could do ..`
`14:33.06`	`anthm`	`that's what i was trying to tell him`
`14:33.10`	`matt_`	`exten => group1,1,Dial(SIP/line1&SIP/line2&SIP/line3,30,r)`
`14:33.17`	`anthm`	`but i am too lazy to compose that line`
`14:33.19`	`matt_`	`and then just Dial(SIP/group1)`
`14:33.24`	`matt_`	`lol k`
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`14:41.10`	`ThoMe`	`anthm / matt_: this in the [global]?`
`14:41.21`	`ThoMe`	`aeh`
`14:41.25`	`ThoMe`	`[generel] ?`
`14:42.23`	`matt_`	`er.. no`
`14:42.31`	`ThoMe`	`hm?`
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`14:42.37`	`matt_`	`this should be in extensions.conf`
`14:42.42`	`matt_`	`in a context`
`14:44.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`matt_: that won't quite work. Perhaps you meant the Local/ channel?`
`14:44.59`	`matt_`	`Corydon76-home, yea :) i did`
`14:45.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`i.e. Dial(Local/group1@somecontext)`
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`14:47.13`	`drfreeze`	`Anyone have a good recommendation for an Asterisk box to support 15 phones. I think I prefer a rack mount system with at least raid1.`
`14:48.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`You can't just build one?`
`14:48.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`If you absolutely must have one off the shelf, Dell 2950 is good`
`14:49.18`	`drfreeze`	`Corydon76-home: sure, but I'm not sure of the requirements`
`14:49.36`	`drfreeze`	`at least as far as CPU needs are`
`14:49.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`drfreeze: if you can buy it new, it's good enough`
`14:49.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`There aren't any new computers which are inadequate for the task`
`14:50.04`	`drfreeze`	`will * load heavily with 15 calls?`
`14:50.14`	`drfreeze`	`good to know`
`14:50.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`No. That's a light load`
`14:50.18`	`drfreeze`	`what about RAM?`
`14:50.21`	`drfreeze`	`1GB enough?`
`14:50.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`Plenty`
`14:50.46`	`matt_`	`15 phones`
`14:50.53`	`matt_`	`... a p1 can run 15 phones`
`14:50.56`	`drfreeze`	`Teliax`
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`14:51.05`	`matt_`	`a little linksys router running linux can run 15 phones`
`14:51.06`	`Corydon76-home`	`matt_: only if you have no transcoding`
`14:51.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`but yes, call processing alone, a P233 can handle a full T1 of calls`
`14:52.56`	`drfreeze`	`I have a M2NPV-VM Asus motherboard with Sempron processor`
`14:53.18`	`drfreeze`	`matt_: but not record phone calls and do auto dialing with text to speach. :)`
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`14:55.39`	`mkl1525`	`Hi, if one of our snom phones registers on * its firmware version is shown in the log, but is there a way to view the firmware version of all connected snom phones with a * command?`
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`15:11.58`	`Bobthehunter`	`is there a way to do exten => _800NXXXXXX,1,NoOp("GETTING OUTBOUND CALL TO ${EXTEN}")`
`15:12.04`	`Bobthehunter`	`but to maybe include 1 ?`
`15:12.22`	`Bobthehunter`	`_{1}800NXX?`
`15:16.05`	`russellb_`	`there is no way to mark a digit optional`
`15:16.27`	`russellb_`	`just make 2 extensions, with the 2nd priority of one of them as a goto to the other`
`15:17.23`	`russellb_`	`well, the first ...`
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`15:18.42`	`ctooley`	`I've finally upgraded to Asterisk 1.4.0 and I'm still seeing much lower performance than expected out of RTP bridging. Asterisk is still only using about 210% CPU according to top. With 4 real CPU cores it should easily get to at least 300-350%`
`15:19.11`	`ctooley`	`Anyone know of something in SIP RTP bridging that's still going through Asterisk Core?`
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`15:29.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`ctooley: uh, why would you want it to be doing 100% utilization?`
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`15:29.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`ctooley: network performance != CPU utilization`
`15:29.54`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, I'm only getting about 450 bridged calls per server at the moment and I'd really like to target around 600`
`15:30.20`	`Corydon76-home`	`So? Less than 100% utilization means you have room to grow`
`15:30.31`	`ctooley`	`At 450 we're seeing the load average climb to about 70`
`15:30.46`	`Corydon76-home`	`70.00?`
`15:30.51`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, one would think`
`15:30.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`or 0.70?`
`15:30.56`	`ctooley`	`Corydon-w, 70.00`
`15:31.03`	`Corydon76-home`	`Ouch`
`15:31.21`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, Sound quality doesn't seem to degrade (which is odd) but it's a bit scary`
`15:31.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`Does the console get unresponsive?`
`15:31.51`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, nope`
`15:31.53`	`russellb_`	`well, you generally start hitting the limits of your network card at that point`
`15:31.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`Then I wouldn't worry about it`
`15:32.09`	`ctooley`	`russellb, how would it be hitting the limit of the NIC?`
`15:32.25`	`russellb_`	`either interrupt limit or bandwidth limit ...`
`15:32.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`The CPU load average doesn't take into account the possibility that a thread may yield before its entire time slice is used`
`15:32.31`	`ctooley`	`russellb, I could see the problem with packet generation but certainly not throughput`
`15:32.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`ctooley: I have a sample program that will spike a load average to 300 without actually affecting real CPU usage`
`15:33.07`	`ctooley`	`russellb_, besides we're using 2 different NICs one for the A-leg, one for the B-leg`
`15:33.25`	`ctooley`	`So, we shouldn't be killing interrupts.`
`15:33.41`	`russellb_`	`ah, cool`
`15:34.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`ctooley: http://asterisk.drunkcoder.com/hacks/noload.c`
`15:34.20`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, Yeah, I know what you mean.`
`15:34.34`	`ctooley`	`But, I'm not sure why we'd be seeing the low CPU utilization`
`15:34.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`ctooley: it's a great little test tool. Freaks people out.`
`15:34.55`	`ctooley`	`I know that most people are scared of 80-90% utilization but phone companies kind of expect it.`
`15:36.32`	`ctooley`	`As an aside, we're still trying to hire another Asterisk admin type person in Austin, TX`
`15:37.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heh, I think it's better just to find a geek and train him/her`
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`15:40.15`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, I've got peak port utilization of 15K already and we're building out for 30K because we're afraid that we're going to be at 30K in 3 months.`
`15:40.33`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, I can't just "hire a geek" I need someone that's already familiar with Asterisk and has experience.`
`15:41.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`ctooley: I'm planning to hire a geek and make him/her into an Asterisk developer`
`15:42.17`	`ctooley`	`Corydon76-home, I'd do that but I don't have the time. Our team is already scrambling to keep up. I don't have 6 months to devote to training someone to not be a moron.`
`15:42.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heh`
`15:43.16`	`ctooley`	`Our Asterisk cabinets in Dallas and Chicago are already full and LA is filling up quick. And I don't have time to be one of the Architects and the Asterisk admin at the same time anymore.`
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`16:03.42`	`ctooley`	`I'm going to just weight one of my servers really heavily and push 5-600 calls to it at once`
`16:03.44`	`ctooley`	`we'll see how it goes`
`16:03.47`	`ctooley`	`:)`
`16:04.31`	`ctooley`	`I'm strongly considering submitting a patch to asterisk for "call-limit response"`
`16:05.01`	`ctooley`	`so you can configure the SIP release cause that gets sent back when the call-limit is reached`
`16:05.51`	`ctooley`	`I keep having to patch chan_sip.c to use release cause 503 instead of 480`
`16:12.45`	`bkw_`	`is 600 calls alot?`
`16:13.56`	`RoyK`	`bkw_: 600 concurrent calls on a single asterisk box doing media will kill it`
`16:14.08`	`RoyK`	`at least with bridging`
`16:14.12`	`bkw_`	`no comment`
`16:14.24`	`bkw_`	`I can't even comment on that without being called a troll`
`16:14.32`	`bkw_`	`even if I speak the truth`
`16:14.33`	`RoyK`	`rotfl`
`16:14.43`	`bkw_`	`well not if.. even WHEN its the truth`
`16:15.03`	`RoyK`	`I've done tests with sip with rtp bridging. asterisk is usable until ~300-400 concurrent calls`
`16:15.28`	`RoyK`	`after that linux system time goes BOOM - prolly because of context switching and bad rtp code`
`16:15.39`	`bkw_`	`well context switches are the enemy`
`16:15.50`	`RoyK`	`s/bad/not sufficiently well-written/`
`16:15.51`	`bkw_`	`in this case I vote for locking retention`
`16:16.19`	`Bobthehunter`	`who had a spa3000 to sell ?`
`16:21.47`	`Qwell`	`RoyK: I've gotten well over 600 calls with media`
`16:22.23`	`RoyK`	`qdk: with a single cpu?`
`16:22.31`	`RoyK`	`Qwell: that one was for you`
`16:22.36`	`RoyK`	`Qwell: on a single cpu?`
`16:22.44`	`Qwell`	`no`
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`16:22.46`	`RoyK`	`Qwell: bridging sip/sip?`
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`16:22.59`	`Qwell`	`sip, yes, with media`
`16:23.27`	`ctooley_`	`Sorry, I missed the sip-sip bridging issue.`
`16:23.30`	`RoyK`	`Qwell: our tests so far shows the limit is around 400 concurrent calls per xeon ~2.4G`
`16:23.46`	`ctooley_`	`RoyK, I'm seeing lower than that`
`16:23.52`	`Bobthehunter`	`cool`
`16:23.53`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`16:24.31`	`ctooley_`	`We're having problems at around 500 on dual core/dual proc 3.0G boxes`
`16:24.40`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: quite possible`
`16:24.42`	`RoyK`	`ops`
`16:24.44`	`RoyK`	`that's LOW`
`16:25.00`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: can you try checking with oprofile?`
`16:25.06`	`RoyK`	`if this is linux...`
`16:25.21`	`bkw_`	`ctooley_, you're shitting me right?`
`16:25.23`	`bkw_`	`500 calls`
`16:25.29`	`bkw_`	`on a dual/dual core 3ghz?`
`16:25.32`	`bkw_`	`are these woodcrest boxes?`
`16:25.43`	`Qwell`	`bkw_: the processors are made of wood, I think`
`16:25.44`	`ctooley_`	`dunno.`
`16:25.56`	`Qwell`	`forget silicon - wood is the way of the future`
`16:25.56`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: linux?`
`16:26.00`	`bkw_`	`well if they are dual/dual core`
`16:26.02`	`bkw_`	`then I suspect so`
`16:26.27`	`ctooley_`	`yes`
`16:26.35`	`bkw_`	`you should be able to get WAY more than that`
`16:26.42`	`bkw_`	`but not with asterisk I suspect`
`16:26.55`	`ctooley_`	`we might actually be able to, but I get scared of load averages around 100`
`16:27.01`	`ctooley_`	`(and no, that's 100.00 not 1.00)`
`16:27.13`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: wtf????`
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`16:27.31`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: please install oprofile. it's probably enabled in kernel. also check /etc/cpuinfo and the full 'ps axf'`
`16:27.46`	`RoyK`	`s/check/pastebin/`
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`16:27.54`	`ctooley_`	`RoyK, What's procinfo going to show me?`
`16:28.09`	`ctooley_`	`oh`
`16:28.09`	`ctooley_`	`ok`
`16:28.17`	`RoyK`	`with a load of 100 there should be 100 processes waiting for cpu time`
`16:28.21`	`RoyK`	`which is a LOT`
`16:28.33`	`ctooley_`	`RoyK, yeah`
`16:28.35`	`ctooley_`	`I know`
`16:29.03`	`ctooley_`	`right now I've got 350 calls (650 channels) and the load is 68`
`16:29.19`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: can you please pastebin the procinfo output?`
`16:29.20`	`ctooley_`	`but it fluxuates a lot. drops down to the 50 range`
`16:30.20`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: zgrep ^CONFIG_HZ= /proc/config.gz`
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`16:32.26`	`ctooley_`	`gzip: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory`
`16:32.33`	`ctooley_`	`http://pastebin.com/868754`
`16:32.59`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: uname -a`
`16:33.08`	`ctooley_`	`oprofile is installed`
`16:33.29`	`ctooley_`	`Linux HOSTNAME_REMOVED 2.6.9-42.ELsmp #1 SMP Tue Aug 15 10:35:26 BST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux`
`16:33.39`	`RoyK`	`wow. ancient :)`
`16:34.10`	`RoyK`	`2.6.9 is from oct 18 2004`
`16:35.29`	`ctooley_`	`it's CentOS 4.4`
`16:35.36`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: I'd say try a newer kernel with HZ=1000`
`16:35.40`	`ctooley_`	`most of the bug/security fixes get backported anyway`
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`16:37.09`	`asteriskuser1`	`hello`
`16:37.50`	`RoyK`	`ctooley_: anyway - using a higher HZ is usually good for realtime systems. also - enable all of preempt`
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`16:44.22`	`PakiPenguin`	`hello everyone`
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`16:46.52`	`ctooley`	`I hate that I keep getting kicked off because of my stupid VPN`
`16:49.06`	`asteriskuser1`	`hello folks. I'd like to let asterisk make an automated call on the landline network. it is connected to another asterisk server through aix. Can you help me? I'm not sure about the 'channels' part in the .call file .`
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`16:50.46`	`asteriskuser1`	`when I define "Channel: IAX/phonenumber" it gives me the "no channel type registered for 'iax'" error`
`16:50.53`	`Qwell`	`iax2`
`16:51.25`	`asteriskuser1`	`with iax2 it says "unable to request channel ..."`
`16:51.32`	`asteriskuser1`	`should I only put the number straight?`
`16:51.49`	`Qwell`	`did you put the iax2 user?`
`16:52.10`	`Qwell`	`or, peer I guess`
`16:52.17`	`asteriskuser1`	`can you put it in "Channel: IAX2/user:password@server/number?`
`16:52.48`	`russellb_`	`yes`
`16:53.13`	`asteriskuser1`	`d'oh :D ok I try`
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`16:54.05`	`asteriskuser1`	`huh . it works. thanks for you help :)`
`16:54.26`	`asteriskuser1`	`your`
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`16:56.16`	`ruied`	`Hi all! my asterisk doesn't start up anymore, it reports: "chan_zap.c: Invalid channel number '0'" I think it was whan I've added a ZAP extension and I've choose 0 instead of 1 (fxs line of my TDM400) where can I remove this "extension" or "channel" ?`
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`17:00.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ruied : Clearly either zaptel.conf or zapata.conf......`
`17:00.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ruied : Where else do you think zaptel channels are defined?`
`17:07.38`	`ctooley`	`mmm segfault`
`17:07.39`	`ctooley`	`goodie`
`17:08.58`	`ruied`	`ok, I'm new in this... I've looked for zapata.conf file, but there is only one in /etc/asterisk/asterisk1.2.4....-sample/zapata.conf it looks like tis file is just a sample or am I wrong? (I'm trixbox...)`
`17:09.23`	`Qwell`	`~trixbox`
`17:09.32`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, trixbox is unable to be supported here. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or use the trixbox forums at http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/`
`17:11.16`	`ruied`	`ok... I'don't want any trixbox help... I just want to understand what is going wrong at the command line with asterisk...`
`17:11.44`	`Bobthehunter`	`use trix box to make the files then vi them`
`17:11.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ruied : * works fine, its your configs that are broken, and they are made with FreePBX which is not supported here`
`17:12.17`	`Bobthehunter`	`actualy any third party or gui is asking for disaster`
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`17:12.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : Never mess with those files. FreePBX will just blow them all away the next time you want to commit a change.`
`17:12.46`	`Bobthehunter`	`its like hiring a chauffeur .. once he dies on the well if you don't know how to drive your fu..ed and will die`
`17:12.56`	`Bobthehunter`	`s/well/wheel`
`17:13.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Note to all : Once you start up with FreePBX/Trixbox, your soul has already been sold. Don't complain about the price!`
`17:15.11`	`riddlebox`	`[TK]D-Fender, nice`
`17:16.14`	`ruied`	`so, where should be the zapata.conf /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf or /etc/zapata.conf ?`
`17:16.39`	`shido6`	`muahahahah`
`17:17.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ruied : Don't bother trying to mess with these manually. Just asking about them tells us you have no idea what to DO with them. Go fix your configs using the FreePBX GUI.`
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`17:30.57`	`Sauron	`Where do agi scripts go?`
`17:32.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Sauron : /var/lib/asterisk/agi-bin
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`17:41.45`	`ruied`	`D-Fender: So, you'r opinion is to get everything from digium, compile it and do all configurations by hand...`
`17:41.46`	`\|kalle\|`	`hello`
`17:43.07`	`\|kalle\|`	`ive got a problem with the submitted callerid of the dial comand`
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`17:43.42`	`\|kalle\|`	`the dial command always submits the cid of the called phone and not the source cid`
`17:43.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ruied : Naturally, yes.`
`17:43.55`	`\|kalle\|`	`i already tried with the o option`
`17:44.18`	`\|kalle\|`	`has anyone help, please ?`
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`17:45.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`\|kalle\| : Please pastebin all of the device configs related to the call, and the CLI output of the call, including a NoOp at the start to show what it being presented`
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`17:46.27`	`\|kalle\|`	`capi.conf:`
`17:46.35`	`\|kalle\|`	`[general]`
`17:46.35`	`\|kalle\|`	`nationalprefix=0`
`17:46.35`	`\|kalle\|`	`internationalprefix=00`
`17:46.35`	`\|kalle\|`	`rxgain=0.8`
`17:46.35`	`\|kalle\|`	`txgain=0.8`
`17:46.37`	`\|kalle\|`	`[ISDN1]`
`17:46.39`	`\|kalle\|`	`msn=17830`
`17:46.41`	`\|kalle\|`	`incomingmsn=17830`
`17:46.42`	`Qwell`	`~pb`
`17:46.48`	`jbot`	`it has been said that pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`17:46.49`	`\|kalle\|`	`controller=1`
`17:46.49`	`\|kalle\|`	`group=1`
`17:46.49`	`\|kalle\|`	`softdtmf=on`
`17:46.49`	`\|kalle\|`	`context=extern_isdn`
`17:46.49`	`*** kick/#asterisk [\|kalle\|!n=russell@asterisk/developer-and-stable-maintainer/drumkilla] by russellb_ (russellb_)`
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`17:47.21`	`\|kalle\|`	`extensions.conf:`
`17:47.21`	`\|kalle\|`	`[general]`
`17:47.21`	`\|kalle\|`	`static=yes`
`17:47.21`	`\|kalle\|`	`writeprotect=no`
`17:47.21`	`\|kalle\|`	`TRUNK=CAPI`
`17:47.23`	`\|kalle\|`	`[extern]`
`17:47.27`	`\|kalle\|`	`[extern_isdn]`
`17:47.28`	`*** kick/#asterisk [\|kalle\|!n=north@pdpc/sponsor/digium/Qwell] by Qwell (Qwell)`
`17:47.31`	`riddlebox`	`lol`
`17:47.35`	`russellb_`	`are you serious?`
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`17:47.40`	`Qwell`	`next is +q...`
`17:47.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PASTEBIN`
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`17:48.16`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o mog] by ChanServ`
`17:48.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`\|kalle\| : PASTEBIN. Do that again, and believe me there are a line of people prepared to ban you for spamming....`
`17:48.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`17:48.45`	`jbot`	`hmm... pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`17:48.45`	`Qwell`	`mog!!!`
`17:48.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`^^^^^^^^`
`17:49.01`	`\|kalle\|`	`oh, sorry`
`17:49.39`	`mog`	`Qwell, !`
`17:49.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`mog: !!`
`17:49.59`	`mog`	`hi all`
`17:50.01`	`Qwell`	`russellb: !!`
`17:50.08`	`Qwell`	`_ too`
`17:50.20`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: !!`
`17:50.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`Jimbob! Billy Jo!`
`17:51.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`Dusty Lynn!`
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`17:51.27`	`Qwell`	`Did you guys hear something?`
`17:51.36`	`russellb_`	`no ...`
`17:51.44`	`Qwell`	`damn arsenal`
`17:51.56`	`Qwell`	`must be setting off bombs again`
`17:52.24`	`russellb_`	`i'm a bit far away to hear them`
`17:52.26`	`Qwell`	`so, check this out`
`17:52.54`	`Qwell`	`my neighbors wanted to put up a privacy fence (we already have a picket fence around our yard, but...yeah), so they brought out a surveyor`
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`17:53.08`	`Qwell`	`found out that we own like 5 feet past our current fence`
`17:53.15`	`russellb_`	`nice`
`17:53.38`	`Qwell`	`they put up a fence yesterday, and now there's this big "alley", heh`
`17:54.01`	`russellb_`	`when is it party at qwell's house?`
`17:54.06`	`Qwell`	`considering cutting down part of the fence, and extended it up to theirs.. problem is, we have a bit of landscaping at the fence`
`17:54.13`	`Qwell`	`so it'll look pretty stupid`
`17:55.21`	`Qwell`	`russellb_: dunno, I'm quite a ways out`
`17:55.27`	`russellb_`	`just playin' :-p`
`17:56.27`	`\|kalle\|`	`so i hope i did it right, i pasted my confs an debug to http://pastebin.ca/330191`
`17:56.28`	`file`	`let's take over Qwell's house next week and party, I think that's fair`
`17:56.38`	`Qwell`	`file: works for me`
`17:57.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: that just means you'll have 5 feet of landscaping now`
`17:57.27`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: you always wanted a goldfish pond, right?`
`17:57.39`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`17:57.58`	`russellb_`	`A MOAT`
`17:58.00`	`russellb_`	`DO IT!`
`17:58.23`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`17:58.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`and a waterfall`
`17:58.31`	`Qwell`	`totally`
`17:58.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`and a grist mill under the waterfall`
`17:59.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`\|kalle\| : ok, now between your Set for CID, and your dial, add a NoOp to prove that the change took. then remove the "o" option from dial.`
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`17:59.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`My how very "Little House On The Prarie"!`
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`18:02.08`	`rudholm`	`Qwell: now you'll have space for a row of phone booths.`
`18:03.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yeah, I'm sure his wife would be thrilled`
`18:03.33`	`rudholm`	`Qwell: you'll soon be able to control the coin relay from within Asterisk`
`18:03.37`	`rudholm`	`hehe`
`18:04.16`	`\|kalle\|`	`so i added a exten => 17830,3,NoOp(${CALLERID}) between the set (cid) and the dial command. i tried both with and without the o option, but nothing changed`
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`18:11.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`\|kalle\| : Does is how your changed CID?`
`18:13.52`	`\|kalle\|`	`the debug output tells me, that the cid ist now 1234567, so he changed it correctly`
`18:14.19`	`\|kalle\|`	`(now means when he executes the NoOp)`
`18:15.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hrm`
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`18:18.05`	`mavior`	`hello everybody....can somebody help me with the Set(TIMEOUT(digit)=timeout) option? I set it to 30 seconds but it won't work ... that's how i configured the context http://pastebin.ca/330212`
`18:18.07`	`mavior`	`thank you`
`18:19.02`	`mavior`	`making "0" + "432" it waits only about 8 seconds and then i hear a busy tone`
`18:19.13`	`coppice`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmmN7AK4vug`
`18:19.38`	`mavior`	`and I expected it to do something like a busy tone after 30 seconds....`
`18:19.45`	`mavior`	`isn't it?`
`18:24.23`	`\|kalle\|`	`is it possible to examine if dial() accepts his options?`
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`18:24.44`	`cuco`	`tzafrir_laptop: pign`
`18:24.47`	`cuco`	`tzafrir_laptop: ping`
`18:28.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : Digit timout should never be so high. typically 10-15s for Response, and then 3-5s for digit.`
`18:28.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice : Not bad for 9yrs old`
`18:28.59`	`mavior`	`ok but just for a test...it isn't working`
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`18:29.29`	`coppice`	`[TK]D-Fender: I don't think I could do anything with that maturity at 9 :-\`
`18:30.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : Well I also don't know how you're calling it. You should show more of your dialplan to exncompass everything being called by your call, as well as CLI output of your attempt`
`18:30.16`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`cuco, pong`
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`18:31.14`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender: as you can see by pastebin i call by doing a 0 and a 10 digit number`
`18:31.17`	`mavior`	`s`
`18:31.50`	`mavior`	`but if i do something like 0+ 123 (only 3digits) i expected it to wait for 30 seconds before hangup`
`18:31.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : No.. I don't see anything... I see a context, NOT how its being called.`
`18:31.55`	`mavior`	`but it doesn't`
`18:32.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : pastebin the CLI output of the call.`
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`18:36.05`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.ca/330219, I made what i described before...only this to the output`
`18:37.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : Funny I don't see "s" being called at ALL.`
`18:37.51`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender: i'll be right back in 20 min`
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`18:46.51`	`mquin`	`time for me to find a quiet comfy seat and a nice hot coffee`
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`18:57.04`	`n0rus`	`I have just installed Elastix. What is the root password? The homepage doesn't say anything about that. I'm a little bit lazy to safe-boot and edit the shadow file...`
`19:00.13`	`mquin`	`n0rus: is it even set? It's getting common to leave root's password set to an invalid value and have the end user rely on sudo when they need to perform root operations`
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`19:00.45`	`n0rus`	`Well, then there must exist some kind of a regular user`
`19:01.05`	`n0rus`	`so that I could sudo passwd root when I'm in`
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`19:02.08`	`wnfaknd`	`would anyone here say that trixbox is better than asterisk?`
`19:02.43`	`abatista`	`Trixbox is a iso with asterisk and freepbx so no it's an addon gui ISO`
`19:02.57`	`Nugget`	`trixbox is easy to install, less easy to customize.`
`19:03.04`	`Nugget`	`it all depends on what you're looking for.`
`19:03.12`	`abatista`	`wnfaknd, it can't be better due to it includes asterisk`
`19:03.50`	`Nugget`	`that's flawed logic, of course it can be better.`
`19:05.23`	`wnfaknd`	`so then it would be better to compare asterisknow with trixbox? since they both have a GUI?`
`19:05.32`	`Nugget`	`yes, that's a fair statement.`
`19:05.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Of course Trixbox is better. Does * alone come with an entire OS? I think not! How about a web server? NOPE! Trixbox must clearly be better than Asterisk.`
`19:06.03`	`Nugget`	`any gui-based asterisk system is going to be inherently inflexible in some areas. the state of the art in asterisk guis is still pretty crude and limited.`
`19:06.15`	`Nugget`	`if your needs fit within the scope of the gui, though, they can be great.`
`19:06.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wnfaknd : So Go intall Trixbox and ....`
`19:06.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~glwat`
`19:06.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~glwaot`
`19:06.49`	`wnfaknd`	`i just got a VPS at lylix with asterisk`
`19:07.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~wglwat`
`19:07.12`	`jbot`	`hmm... wglwat is well, good luck with all that`
`19:07.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`there!`
`19:07.35`	`wnfaknd`	`was thinking of trixbox for a while... im gonna install it in a home box and play with it and then compare the two`
`19:08.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wnfaknd : Except... YOU CAN'T.`
`19:08.35`	`wnfaknd`	`cant what?`
`19:08.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wnfaknd : Do you have any clue about how FreePBX configures * for you?`
`19:08.47`	`asteriskuser1`	`can I use the playback(blabla) command in a .call file?`
`19:08.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wnfaknd : Can't compare. Apples & oranges.`
`19:09.01`	`asteriskuser1`	`e.g when I want to use dynamical .gsm files?`
`19:09.12`	`wnfaknd`	`[TK]D-Fender, no i dont know how`
`19:09.22`	`abatista`	`asterisknow is asterisk with a gui and it's getting allot better then before. Still lacks reports but it's a move in the right direction`
`19:09.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wnfaknd : You will therefor have no basis for comparison. The only way to know * is to actually USE it from scratch yourself.`
`19:09.52`	`abatista`	`Trixbox is well something I don't like to use. But I like installing asterisk then Freepbx on some setups due to it's fairly easy to have setup for a small office.`
`19:10.00`	`asteriskuser1`	`because you can't edit extensions.conf when asterisk is running (extensions reload)`
`19:10.09`	`abatista`	`you can edit them`
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`19:11.52`	`wnfaknd`	`ok, about how many minutes would 500GB of bandwith give me? assuming standard compression and what not`
`19:12.42`	`ariel_`	`500 gb wow that is allot`
`19:12.54`	`ariel_`	`ulaw will use about 80K per call`
`19:13.07`	`shido6`	`you need another number`
`19:13.12`	`shido6`	`like "time"`
`19:13.22`	`shido6`	`how much bandwidth do you have?`
`19:13.25`	`ariel_`	`shido6, long time no see`
`19:13.38`	`shido6`	`500 gb for 30 days?`
`19:13.43`	`shido6`	`1 day?`
`19:13.51`	`shido6`	`500gb/sec ?`
`19:13.53`	`wnfaknd`	`1 minute calls, 500gb for 30 days`
`19:14.07`	`shido6`	`how many boxes?`
`19:14.10`	`wnfaknd`	`1`
`19:14.15`	`shido6`	`what processor?`
`19:15.04`	`wnfaknd`	`P4 3.0`
`19:15.23`	`shido6`	`how much RAM ( speed ? (x mhz) DDR? )`
`19:15.58`	`wnfaknd`	`256 megs, PC3200`
`19:16.03`	`shido6`	`FSB ?`
`19:16.27`	`mquin`	`wnfaknd A single g.711 call runs as 64kpbs. With ome beermat arithmetic I get about 2 years to clock up 500GB`
`19:16.46`	`wnfaknd`	`800`
`19:17.05`	`shido6`	`what protocol ?`
`19:17.09`	`wnfaknd`	`dont know`
`19:17.13`	`shido6`	`pick 1`
`19:17.28`	`shido6`	`SIP`
`19:17.29`	`wnfaknd`	`you pick, whatever default`
`19:17.31`	`wnfaknd`	`hmm`
`19:17.32`	`wnfaknd`	`yes`
`19:17.34`	`wnfaknd`	`SIP`
`19:17.46`	`shido6`	`is Asterisk starting the calls from a call file?`
`19:17.49`	`shido6`	`or real users?`
`19:17.52`	`wnfaknd`	`file`
`19:17.53`	`shido6`	`or. ?`
`19:17.57`	`sweeper`	`wnfaknd: you'lll need more RAM \o`
`19:18.01`	`ariel_`	`mquin, 64K without the ethernet over head`
`19:18.02`	`shido6`	`is sql running on the box, too?`
`19:18.28`	`wnfaknd`	`yes, mysql running on eh same box`
`19:18.36`	`wnfaknd`	`i can get more RAM`
`19:18.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mquin : Quick adjustment. RTP @ ULAW = 80-85kbps incl headers, etc.`
`19:18.42`	`wnfaknd`	`lets say 512`
`19:18.48`	`shido6`	`do you want to use SER ?`
`19:18.52`	`sweeper`	`mquin: that comes to 24 simultaneous calls for a month`
`19:18.52`	`wnfaknd`	`yes`
`19:19.10`	`sweeper`	`which isn't really that much :v`
`19:19.21`	`shido6`	`how much bandwidth can you use at one time?`
`19:19.25`	`shido6`	`max bandwidth cap`
`19:19.32`	`wnfaknd`	`unknown at this time`
`19:19.32`	`mquin`	`sweeper: guess it depends what you are trying to acheive`
`19:19.44`	`mquin`	`for a callceter, it might be, for 1 person's voicemail...`
`19:19.45`	`shido6`	`I cant give you an estimate without a max bandwidth cap`
`19:19.49`	`wnfaknd`	`i think 1000mb/s`
`19:20.06`	`shido6`	`do you have g729 licenses?`
`19:20.07`	`wnfaknd`	`im soryry KB`
`19:20.09`	`shido6`	`or straight ulaw`
`19:20.10`	`shido6`	`?`
`19:20.11`	`shido6`	`:)`
`19:20.13`	`wnfaknd`	`ulaw`
`19:20.35`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender: do you have an idea why my s extension is not being called at all?`
`19:20.44`	`wnfaknd`	`crap, i gota pick up the kids from karate. i'll be back in 10 mins`
`19:20.48`	`wnfaknd`	`hope you are still around :)`
`19:21.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : You just picked up the phone. What made you think it WOULD be called?`
`19:21.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : "s" doesn't "just happen" you know...`
`19:21.27`	`shido6`	`1000KB /sec ?`
`19:22.07`	`asteriskuser1`	`if I want to playback audio in a .call file .. do I need to integrate playback() somehow in a .agi script or?`
`19:22.47`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender: after picked up the phone, i digited "0"+ 123`
`19:23.19`	`mavior`	`and after 8 sec i heard a busy tone, so then I hang up the phone`
`19:23.41`	`shido6`	`if your max is 1000KB you can do about 50 SIP ulaw calls simultaneously....... which will be a HUGE limitation... since SER + asterisk will get you in the high hundreds close to thousands of simul calls`
`19:24.38`	`shido6`	`u have 1MB /sec from your colo/ ISP right?`
`19:24.38`	`ariel_`	`asteriskuser1, you can send the call into a context you don't have to use .agi if you don't want to`
`19:24.57`	`shido6`	`do u know how much time it takes for the callsetup from your "file" to someone answering the line or at least "ringing" on the other side?`
`19:25.23`	`shido6`	`but 1 box`
`19:25.27`	`shido6`	`is gonna suck`
`19:25.50`	`shido6`	`+ sql is gonna eat resources when you write to the db`
`19:25.54`	`asteriskuser1`	`ariel_ my problem is ... the gsm file changes often . :( so I'm not sure if that's the best solution?`
`19:26.04`	`sweeper`	`shido6: what is this SER you speak of?`
`19:26.16`	`asteriskuser1`	`the name of gsm file is different so ... I would have to rewrite extensions.conf .`
`19:26.17`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender: how the "s" extension is called?`
`19:26.30`	`ariel_`	`SER is Sip Express Router`
`19:26.51`	`ariel_`	`asteriskuser1, were do you get the gsm file from?`
`19:27.15`	`ariel_`	`mavior, it's a default if a call gets dropped to the context it starts with.`
`19:27.40`	`asteriskuser1`	`ariel_ well from the sounds directory ... but ... I'm searching for a possibility to use playback() in .call file. ..`
`19:27.47`	`shido6`	`think of SER as a catalyst for your Asterisk explosion :)`
`19:27.50`	`mavior`	`this doesn't seems to be true even for my context :)`
`19:28.28`	`ariel_`	`mavior, do a rule like exten => X.,1,Goto(Context,s,1)`
`19:30.26`	`asteriskuser1`	`this means you have to put all things like playback() and festival() in extensions.conf .. there is no way to put it in a call file? what's the "Application: " part in the .call file for?`
`19:31.44`	`ariel_`	`a call file sends a call to a context what you do with that call in the context is up to you.`
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`19:32.22`	`AJaymn`	`some how i have ver 1.2.13 and 1.2.14 installed... i cant figure it out but sometimes it loads one. then other times ill reboot and its loaded the other...how do i get ride of one of them?`
`19:32.27`	`shido6`	`breakout SER to another box`
`19:32.32`	`shido6`	`put Asterisk on its own box`
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`19:32.36`	`shido6`	`and SQL on its own box`
`19:32.42`	`sweeper`	`mmm, SER is interesting`
`19:32.43`	`shido6`	`you may need a Few asterisk boxes`
`19:32.51`	`shido6`	`think of Asterisk as Gatewas`
`19:32.53`	`shido6`	`gateways`
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`19:34.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : You can't control the BASIC timout on an analog zap channel through the dialplan. the call hasn't even REACHED the dialplan yet.`
`19:34.27`	`asteriskuser1`	`ariel_ hmm okay. thanks for your help`
`19:34.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : Timouts are for IVR's`
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`19:38.27`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender: what is IVR? Is there such a method for control the digit time out on analog phones?`
`19:38.52`	`sweeper`	`ok, so SER is essentially what 's SIP stack should be, and can be used with acting as a B2BUA?`
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`19:39.19`	`wnfaknd`	`shido6, im back`
`19:39.22`	`shido6`	`:)`
`19:39.41`	`wnfaknd`	`only 50 simul calls?`
`19:39.51`	`shido6`	`1mb is your limitation`
`19:39.55`	`wnfaknd`	`that is indeed a huge limitation`
`19:39.58`	`shido6`	`and ulaw`
`19:40.28`	`wnfaknd`	`whats a good alternative to ulaw?`
`19:40.45`	`sweeper`	`speex \o`
`19:40.57`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender:http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/IVR ok I got it about ivr, but my question about a method for control the digit time-out remain!`
`19:41.34`	`shido6`	`u can do 165 if u had g729`
`19:41.49`	`wnfaknd`	`that is still not as much as I had hoped`
`19:41.58`	`wnfaknd`	`was hoping to do 300 to 500 simul calls`
`19:42.06`	`shido6`	`but I would highly recommend 4 bxoes.`
`19:42.11`	`shido6`	`1 for sql`
`19:42.11`	`ariel_`	`300 to 500 calls on one box`
`19:42.13`	`shido6`	`1 for ser`
`19:42.15`	`shido6`	`2 for ast`
`19:42.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : Right now I'm betting you don't much of a choice at all.`
`19:43.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mavior : Analog zap channels = suck`
`19:43.08`	`shido6`	`or go with some1 who has this already and rent out their equipment for your "test"`
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`19:43.16`	`asteriskuser1`	`another question: if I have a context with playback() in it .. can I make the data in playback variable? like playback($stuff) ... and in the .call file I change the $stuff variable?`
`19:43.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asteriskuser1 : you can set channel variables in your call file.`
`19:43.58`	`wnfaknd`	`hmmm`
`19:43.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asteriskuser1 : Go read the docs on them again`
`19:44.10`	`shido6`	`NuFone would be open to this kind of app.`
`19:44.27`	`shido6`	`asteria might, too`
`19:45.38`	`mavior`	`[TK]D-Fender ?`
`19:45.43`	`wnfaknd`	`its been years since i last used mirc. I forgot hwo to log this chat.`
`19:45.57`	`wnfaknd`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:47.40`	`wnfaknd`	`shido, let me put it another way, assuming i want to make 4 million calls per month. only about %30 of those would be 1 minute calls, the rest less than 10 seconds, what would you recommend?`
`19:49.16`	`shido6`	`are you playnig a file or message?`
`19:49.30`	`wnfaknd`	`message`
`19:49.39`	`shido6`	`are you expecting dtmf response?`
`19:49.39`	`wnfaknd`	`recorded message`
`19:49.47`	`wnfaknd`	`yes`
`19:49.59`	`shido6`	`do u have a db of the #'s you are dialing?`
`19:50.06`	`wnfaknd`	`certainly`
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`19:50.23`	`shido6`	`when dtmf is received are you transferring to a live person?`
`19:50.33`	`wnfaknd`	`negative`
`19:50.44`	`shido6`	`what happens after dtmf is received?`
`19:50.59`	`sevard`	`beep`
`19:51.02`	`shido6`	`:)`
`19:51.57`	`wnfaknd`	`perhaps im not certain what dtmf is`
`19:52.07`	`wnfaknd`	`is someone picks up the phone,the thing hangs up`
`19:52.11`	`wnfaknd`	`if voice mail, recording would play`
`19:52.22`	`shido6`	`wow`
`19:52.40`	`shido6`	`so you dont want to talk to anyone, just a machine .. the called party's answering service?`
`19:52.50`	`wnfaknd`	`yes`
`19:53.05`	`shido6`	`you have answering machine service detection working, yes?`
`19:53.12`	`wnfaknd`	`yes`
`19:53.19`	`shido6`	`dood.`
`19:53.25`	`shido6`	`get a wholesale minute plan`
`19:53.25`	`wnfaknd`	`doood`
`19:53.48`	`shido6`	`and call anyone of the voip companys available and tell them what you want to do and tell them you can guarantee 4 mill minutes`
`19:53.55`	`shido6`	`they will give you a rate better than 2 cents/minute`
`19:54.08`	`wnfaknd`	`i got 1 cent/minute`
`19:54.11`	`shido6`	`well`
`19:54.16`	`shido6`	`vonage will laugh at you.`
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`19:56.20`	`wnfaknd`	`well, assuming the above, what hardware you think would cut it?`
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`20:01.51`	`shido6`	`got a phone?`
`20:01.52`	`BitBandit`	`hey does anyone know where i can find a good howto/information about using festival with asterisk ?`
`20:02.18`	`wnfaknd`	`huh?`
`20:02.23`	`shido6`	`grab a phone.`
`20:03.27`	`shido6`	`check the wiki, BitBandit...`
`20:03.59`	`BitBandit`	`i think i am there now`
`20:04.09`	`BitBandit`	`wasnt havin luck finding stuff last night`
`20:04.29`	`shido6`	`most of what you need is in the readme files that comem with festival`
`20:04.47`	`shido6`	`if you came here to get someone to do it for you whip out the paypal account.`
`20:04.58`	`shido6`	`or patebin.ca your problem`
`20:05.39`	`BitBandit`	`ah.. thanks, question i created a call queue but when i call it all i get is hold music and none of the phone ring, what might i be doing wrong ?`
`20:05.51`	`BitBandit`	`nah i like to do stuff myself and learn`
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`20:06.05`	`calvinn`	`anyone tried out openpbx and nconference?`
`20:06.42`	`Zorix`	`any idea how to fix this: WARNING[6483]: pbx.c:1755 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'MeetMe' for extension`
`20:07.28`	`calvinn`	`sounds like you are missing app_meetme module`
`20:07.37`	`Zorix`	`oh its a module`
`20:07.56`	`Zorix`	`all i installed was asterisk 1.4 and asterisk gui`
`20:07.59`	`calvinn`	`well, that or your config for meetme is not case correct`
`20:08.23`	`calvinn`	`you used the asterisk now iso?`
`20:08.37`	`calvinn`	`or built it from source`
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`20:08.44`	`AJaymn`	`anyone know why or even how i have ver. 1.2.13 & 1.2.14 on my system? Sometimes it loads 1, other times i reboot its loaded the other`
`20:09.49`	`calvinn`	`Zorix: check and see if you have app_meetme.so in modules`
`20:09.50`	`Zorix`	`built from source, calvinn`
`20:09.53`	`Zorix`	`ok`
`20:09.55`	`shido6`	`sounds like you're starting to get VerZion sKeW`
`20:10.17`	`shido6`	`did you do a make config ?`
`20:10.36`	`shido6`	`or hell....`
`20:10.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : Did you compile zaptel as well, and BEFORE *? Do yuo have a Zaptel card? have you enabled ZTDUMMY?`
`20:10.44`	`Zorix`	`where is the modules directory.. im kinda lost at where some of these things got thrown in freebsd`
`20:10.47`	`shido6`	`check /etc/init.d/ for asterisk related scripts`
`20:10.56`	`shido6`	`and open em up to see where asterisk is loading from`
`20:10.57`	`Zorix`	`dont have zaptel, dont have a card, dont have ztdummy`
`20:11.05`	`shido6`	`unless you made some mods to rc.local`
`20:11.14`	`shido6`	`in /etc/rc.local`
`20:11.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : If you don't ahve a zaptel timing source then you will NOT be able to use MeetMe.`
`20:11.34`	`calvinn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:11.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : Welcome to "dead end" land...`
`20:11.47`	`Zorix`	`[TK]D-Fender, i remember doing ztdummy on linux on the earlier asterisk, but it seems to work without it now`
`20:11.49`	`calvinn`	`exactly why I am asking about nconference`
`20:11.53`	`calvinn`	`and openpbx`
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`20:12.10`	`Zorix`	`thanks calvinn`
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`20:12.21`	`Zorix`	`[TK]D-Fender, does ztdummy require linux?`
`20:12.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : Not sure if it works on BSD.... possible.... go look.`
`20:13.04`	`Zorix`	`i think im going to turn this box over to linux`
`20:13.16`	`calvinn`	`it shouldn't matter`
`20:13.26`	`Zorix`	`it made a mess of paths`
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`20:13.31`	`calvinn`	`ah`
`20:13.36`	`Zorix`	`like /usr/lib/asterisk doesnt exist`
`20:13.38`	`calvinn`	`well sometimes that can get anoying`
`20:13.48`	`calvinn`	`how about /var/lib/asterisk?`
`20:14.03`	`Zorix`	`the astierk config is in /usr/local/sbin/etc/asterisk instead of /etc/asterisk`
`20:14.27`	`Zorix`	`no lib in var`
`20:14.30`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Zorix, there is ztdummy in freebsd, but it is a different one`
`20:14.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : that IS whacked....`
`20:14.42`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`part of the freebsd zaptel package, I believe`
`20:14.58`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Don't know about other BSDs`
`20:15.00`	`Zorix`	`yea`
`20:15.16`	`calvinn`	`Zorix, just do a find or locate on app_meetme.so`
`20:15.39`	`Zorix`	`i have a feeling its not there but alright`
`20:16.23`	`calvinn`	`is this your first asterisk server?`
`20:16.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`calvinn : Perhaps you're not listening. He has no zaptel. The universe doesn't care if you EMAIL him the .so, without a Zaptel timing sources he's DOA. It will not load. PERIOD`
`20:16.37`	`Zorix`	`yea`
`20:16.38`	`calvinn`	`He may not even know if he has Zaptel`
`20:16.39`	`Zorix`	`err`
`20:16.42`	`Zorix`	`no not first asterisk`
`20:16.47`	`Zorix`	`i used it years ago`
`20:16.48`	`calvinn`	`he can't even find his modules directory`
`20:16.50`	`Zorix`	`on linux`
`20:17.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`calvinn : He already CONFIRMED that he doesn't....`
`20:17.04`	`calvinn`	`so I am going to assume he can't confirm if he has zaptel`
`20:17.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:17.25`	`calvinn`	`but if he built from source, he probably didn't build zaptel yet`
`20:17.31`	`Zorix`	`i did not install zaptel packages since i didnt have the card but i was surprised it didnt ask for it`
`20:17.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`calvinn : he said he compiled from source. its hard to NOT know if you went and manually downloaded a tarball and compiled it.`
`20:17.58`	`calvinn`	`correct`
`20:18.05`	`Zorix`	`hehe`
`20:18.06`	`calvinn`	`I was just not going to assume anything`
`20:18.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : * is not dependant on Zaptel as a whole, but specific features are.`
`20:18.23`	`Zorix`	`zaptel contains ztdummy i think right`
`20:18.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`calvinn : Skip the "not assuming" part, and lread the big print :)`
`20:18.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : correct.`
`20:18.49`	`Zorix`	`sweet`
`20:18.58`	`Zorix`	`yea find finished, didnt find that module`
`20:19.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : And even after getting it successfully built you will ahve to completely recompile * so that it integrates in.`
`20:19.05`	`calvinn`	`k`
`20:19.06`	`Zorix`	`which wouldnt work anyways like you said no ztdummy`
`20:19.15`	`calvinn`	`yup`
`20:19.24`	`Zorix`	`so zaptel has to be compiled and installed first?`
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`20:19.31`	`calvinn`	`I would start there`
`20:19.34`	`Zorix`	`on a new system`
`20:19.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : Correct.`
`20:19.43`	`Jingles`	`I'm starting to get the feeling that IAX doesn't actually support voicemail.`
`20:19.58`	`Jingles`	`because I can't seem to actually get this stupid thing to put a VM in for an IAX extension.`
`20:19.59`	`Zorix`	`then the configure/make script of asterisk detects zaptel/ztdummy and configures to use it`
`20:20.03`	`calvinn`	`why would iax have anything to do with vm?`
`20:20.16`	`Zorix`	`i got voicemail working on mine`
`20:20.37`	`Jingles`	`calvinn: dial in to main tree -> select IAX extension -> get voice prompt to save vm -> watching asterisk console, no vm is ever created`
`20:21.06`	`Zorix`	`[TK]D-Fender, if i do not make samples will the /etc/asterisk directory be empty?`
`20:21.07`	`Jingles`	`dial into main tree -> select SIP extension -> get voice prompt to save vm -> watching asterisk console, vm gets created just fine`
`20:21.18`	`calvinn`	`odd`
`20:21.22`	`Jingles`	`no kidding.`
`20:21.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : Pastebin your dialplan and the CLI output please...`
`20:21.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`20:21.34`	`jbot`	`[pb] a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`20:21.34`	`Jingles`	`there's a mailbox entry in my iax.conf too.`
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`20:22.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : IAX.conf has nothing to do with Voicemil being able to record a message`
`20:22.10`	`Jingles`	`my dialplan is HUGE`
`20:22.21`	`Jingles`	`so, I'm not even sure what bit of it is breaking things.`
`20:22.29`	`Jingles`	`but I'm at the point where I want to hit stuff.`
`20:22.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : pastebin the relevent bits please....`
`20:23.04`	`Jingles`	`1587 Lines. I have no clue which parts are relevant.`
`20:23.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : how about the damned context that CALLS VM :)`
`20:23.26`	`Jingles`	`lols. ok.`
`20:23.33`	`calvinn`	`how about starting with the IAX extension`
`20:23.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : GOOD GRIEF!`
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`20:24.01`	`connecta`	`hrmn, did anyone see this.... http://www.helloconferencecall.com/faq.html`
`20:24.04`	`connecta`	`im skeptical`
`20:24.10`	`Jingles`	`let me dig it all out, and put it together.`
`20:25.13`	`AJaymn`	`My Conference Room quit working, tryed genzaptel and rebuild... but still getting "That is an invaild conference room number...." wherelse can i look?`
`20:27.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`AJaymn : How about how you call it in your dialplan, and in meetme.conf....`
`20:27.22`	`Jingles`	`http://pastebin.ca/330320`
`20:27.34`	`Jingles`	`there. iax.conf, voicemail.conf, and extensions.conf`
`20:27.40`	`Jingles`	`with everything I think might be relevant.`
`20:27.58`	`AJaymn`	`[TK]D-Fender they are fine.. i dont get it, it just BROKE over night...`
`20:28.03`	`Jingles`	`select * from rockstar;`
`20:28.14`	`Jingles`	`0 mL of beverage returned`
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`20:29.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : You are only calling voicemailmain there. nowehere are you leaving a message....`
`20:29.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : And You didn't provide the CLI output of the call attempt.`
`20:29.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : Please do that BEFORE pastebinning the rest.`
`20:29.42`	`Jingles`	`ok. let me find that.`
`20:29.54`	`Jingles`	`the 8500/8600 is just straight into the vm tree.`
`20:30.11`	`Jingles`	`I'm sick of calling the 0083 extension, because the nobs that happen to be there today actually answer the eff'n thing.`
`20:30.30`	`Jingles`	`and I have to be pleasant to them and say 'yeah, working on your voicemail - please stop answering the phone, k?'`
`20:31.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : then make an exten to let you leave a VM for anybody you want WITHOUT dialing the device. tis your dialplan, it'll do whatever you TELL it to.`
`20:31.48`	`Caitriona`	`actually, those extensions are quite useful regardless.`
`20:31.55`	`Caitriona`	`esp if you have anyone that screens calls.`
`20:31.59`	`Jingles`	`that's what the 8500/8600 tree is for.`
`20:32.07`	`Jingles`	`I can dial straight in, auth to whatever box I choose.`
`20:32.19`	`Jingles`	`then press 3 for advanced options, and 5 for leave a voicemail.`
`20:32.35`	`Jingles`	`problem is, I choose 5, and it tells me 'invalid extension' when I put in the extension.`
`20:32.40`	`Jingles`	`which is really pissing me off.`
`20:32.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles :Thats not how you should use it... you should jsut make one that calls VOICEMAIL, not VOICEMAILMAIN.`
`20:32.48`	`Jingles`	`tried it with both a SIP and an IAX ext.`
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`20:33.36`	`Caitriona`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:33.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : Ok, get off that track. its leading you nowhere. Now please provide the CLI output requested.`
`20:33.53`	`Jingles`	`huh. Let me throw something in there. So, just Voicemail? not VoicemailMain? (I'm enjoying the dubious pleasure of coming in and learning what someone else put together)`
`20:33.56`	`Jingles`	`alright. one sec.`
`20:33.59`	`Jingles`	`this sucks.`
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`20:38.11`	`Jingles`	`ok. I updated that link, Fender.`
`20:38.23`	`Jingles`	`no errors - but no VM.`
`20:39.49`	`Jingles`	`iiiinteresting.`
`20:39.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : ne link please...`
`20:40.23`	`Jingles`	`http://pastebin.ca/330331`
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`20:41.17`	`mistermocha`	`hi y'all`
`20:41.38`	`mistermocha`	`any thoughts...`
`20:41.40`	`mistermocha`	`Jan 27 15:41:11 NOTICE[11643]: chan_iax2.c:5921 socket_read: Registration of 'vpf01-to-securiant-voice' rejected: Registration Refused`
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`20:41.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : Sorry, be where the heck in there do you even get the IMPRESSION that a VM was going to be left?`
`20:41.51`	`Jingles`	`you know - I don't think that my call is jumping back to my vm system.`
`20:42.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : I don't see VOICEMAIL being called at all.`
`20:42.03`	`Zorix`	`[TK]D-Fender, the users.conf file is new to me.. i think i remember most of the stuff thats there being in sip.conf or extensions.conf.. am i right?`
`20:42.07`	`Jingles`	`[TK]D-Fender: because I get a voice prompt saying 'please leave a msg'`
`20:42.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : not because of YOUR dialplan.`
`20:42.23`	`Jingles`	`but I'm thinking about it, and I'm betting that's coming from the remote SIP provider.`
`20:42.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Jingles : time for your meds!`
`20:42.40`	`Jingles`	`no kidding.`
`20:43.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Zorix : users.conf is some new hack to try and create a more "all inclusive" for-dummies type single-file-config setup. its not at all necessary, and I avoid it.`
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`20:43.47`	`Zorix`	`ok`
`20:44.04`	`Zorix`	`funny`
`20:44.13`	`Zorix`	`seems to be a ton of sample files`
`20:46.04`	`AJaymn`	`WARNING[2319] chan_zap.c: Unable to open '/dev/zap/pseudo': No such device or address`
`20:46.10`	`AJaymn`	`thats what im getting :(`
`20:46.17`	`Mad\|Cow`	`Does anyone have any experience with Intercom's? I am using Cisco 7940 phones (2 line phones) and understand I must configure one of the lines to autoanswer for intercom functionality to work. If I do that though, one line is dedicated for the intercom leaving me with only 1 line. Is this correct?`
`20:46.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mad\|Cow : no.`
`20:47.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mad\|Cow : Paging is a call like any other except that it includes a parameter to tell the phone to auto-answer on speakerphone if possible`
`20:49.46`	`Mad\|Cow`	`[TK]D-Fender: ahh. So if I set line 2 to auto-anser, if I'm using line one and someone calls me (which will ring on line 2) it will not autoanser?`
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`20:50.14`	`Caitriona`	`depends on the hardware and the parameters passed I think.`
`20:50.17`	`BSDTech`	`ok any polycom pros here`
`20:50.38`	`BSDTech`	`having issues with polycom dial plans in the phones`
`20:50.43`	`Caitriona`	`some phones can page through the speaker while a call's on the handset`
`20:50.59`	`Caitriona`	`or whisper page through the handset without the other party hearing`
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`20:51.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mad\|Cow : you aren't seeting "line 2" to do anything. each line key only handles a CALL. it should NOT be a seperate identity. it should ring if you are on a call and NOT auto-answer. if you were NOT on the phone, it SHUOLD auto-answer`
`20:51.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : "X.T\|#.T\|*.T" <- the only dialplan you should ever need`
`20:52.39`	`BSDTech`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:52.40`	`BSDTech`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:52.51`	`BSDTech`	`thats what is in the phone now`
`20:53.07`	`BSDTech`	`and its not allowing calls with 9 or 8 for outside lines`
`20:53.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<dialplan dialplan.impossibleMatchHandling="2" dialplan.removeEndOfDial="0">`
`20:53.23`	`BSDTech`	`ok`
`20:53.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : And what I wrote for you above`
`20:54.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`the "x" should be lower case BTW....`
`20:54.10`	`Mad\|Cow`	`[TK]D-Fender: So as long as I dont configure line 1 to autoanser, any other line can be set to autoanswer and it will never just "auto answer" if someone calls it.`
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`20:55.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mad\|Cow : listen. you are not setting a LINE to autoanswer. You set a SIP header BEFORE you dial to indicate to the phone that it should auto-answer.`
`20:56.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mad\|Cow : this is not a configureation ON or OF your phone. this is jsut a SIP header for a CALL you are passing it.`
`20:57.01`	`BSDTech`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:57.02`	`BSDTech`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:57.02`	`BSDTech`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:57.16`	`BSDTech`	`should fix it all then`
`20:57.36`	`Mad\|Cow`	`[TK]D-Fender: ahhh. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Cisco+7940-7960+auto-answer+config <-- Makes it loook like you have to set autoanswer on the Cisco Phones`
`20:58.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : Looks good. tels the Polycom to STFU and take whatever its given, and let * parse the rest`
`20:58.21`	`BSDTech`	`ok`
`20:59.45`	`BSDTech`	`rebooting the phone now`
`21:00.17`	`BSDTech`	`why is that not in the wiki`
`21:00.25`	`BSDTech`	`I hunted for 2 days for the answer`
`21:02.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : I don't understand why people make themselve crazy over dialplans being set on every stupid device. Yours seemed to have a lot of overlap.`
`21:06.47`	`BSDTech`	`i did not write it it came in a sip.cfg i was guven`
`21:09.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : A sin of omission then :)`
`21:11.21`	`BSDTech`	`lol`
`21:13.35`	`Zorix`	`is the asterisk sound modules already included in the main package`
`21:15.03`	`Zorix`	`because it looks like its for 1.2 and not 1.4`
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`21:16.12`	`BSDTech`	`it worked`
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`21:17.01`	`BSDTech`	`but now the # key does not work for end of dial`
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`21:20.00`	`Bobthehunter`	`im trying to split a unkown length string with a dash.. then form a dash to second part.. how can i dot htis with regex vars ( EX: 90200-10-18004633339 )`
`21:20.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : Actually I told you to do that....`
`21:20.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`i want to get the 90200-10 in var 1 and balance in var 2`
`21:20.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : If you really want it back, change the "0" back to a "1"`
`21:20.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : But I have used # midstram for entries before.`
`21:21.41`	`Bobthehunter`	`guess thats a hard one ;)`
`21:22.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : Set(var2=${var1:8})`
`21:22.35`	`BSDTech`	`ok`
`21:22.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`well no..`
`21:22.59`	`Bobthehunter`	`could be 90200-10 or 9021000-300 or 90210-200`
`21:23.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`only thing common is hte needs to go till seconds dash`
`21:23.56`	`Bobthehunter`	`its an acocuntid + plan id`
`21:23.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : What I gave you strips the biginning 8 off just like you asked.`
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`21:23.56`	`Bobthehunter`	`yess.. but 902010-304 is more ten 8`
`21:24.09`	`AJaymn`	`My conference rooms quit working, but i found out if i do "modprobe ztdummy" they start working... what do i have to do to make them continue to work?`
`21:24.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`si im looking for (strstr ($exten, "-") then again to find 2ncd occurentce.. but in a dialplan not php`
`21:24.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : you said you wanted what was AFTER those first 8. That does it.`
`21:24.38`	`Bobthehunter`	`im trying to split a unkown length string with a dash.. then form a dash to second part.. how can i dot htis with regex vars ( EX: 90200-10-18004633339`
`21:24.42`	`Bobthehunter`	`is wat is iad..`
`21:24.50`	`Bobthehunter`	`nefter talked about 8 chars ;)`
`21:24.54`	`Bobthehunter`	`could be wahtever ...`
`21:25.04`	`Bobthehunter`	`even says unknown length`
`21:25.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : All 3 segments can be of any length?`
`21:25.20`	`Bobthehunter`	`yeah`
`21:25.21`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`21:25.29`	`Bobthehunter`	`last one could be 10 or 11`
`21:25.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : well your sample only showed the END one changing...`
`21:25.46`	`Bobthehunter`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:25.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : that in mind look at "show function REGEX"`
`21:25.51`	`Bobthehunter`	`ah`
`21:26.35`	`Bobthehunter`	`im soo bad with regex`
`21:27.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : You can do it really slow with dialplan logic, use REGEX, make an AGI, or just SUFFER. your choice :)`
`21:32.24`	`BSDTech`	`not workin`
`21:32.28`	`BSDTech`	`grrrr`
`21:32.42`	`Bobthehunter`	`Set(BLAH=REGEX("/(-)\2/" ${EXTEN})`
`21:32.44`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`21:33.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : Getting warmer but your overall syntax is b0rked`
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`21:33.45`	`Bobthehunter`	`Set(BLAH=REGEX("/^\d{8,10}(-)\d{10,11}\2/" ${EXTEN})`
`21:33.46`	`Bobthehunter`	`also`
`21:34.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : Forget the regex part.. you aren't even calling the function as you are supposed to....`
`21:34.54`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmm`
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`21:34.54`	`Bobthehunter`	`ah gotoif ;)`
`21:34.55`	`Bobthehunter`	`hehe`
`21:36.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BSDTech : pastebin your lastest attempt`
`21:36.47`	`De_Mon`	`Bobthehunter look into CUT and um.. array`
`21:36.55`	`Bobthehunter`	`duh true`
`21:37.54`	`De_Mon`	`I dont think array will do it easily, but cut will`
`21:37.59`	`BSDTech`	`got it`
`21:38.10`	`BSDTech`	`I hade to change the 2 back to a 0`
`21:38.16`	`BSDTech`	`and it works fine`
`21:38.54`	`BSDTech`	`it all is working`
`21:43.09`	`Bobthehunter`	`got it`
`21:43.10`	`Bobthehunter`	`thanks`
`21:43.40`	`BSDTech`	`thanks tk it all works great now`
`21:43.43`	`Bobthehunter`	`_X.,2,Set(BLAH=${CUT(EXTEN,,1&2)})`
`21:43.46`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`21:43.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`thanks a mill`
`21:43.56`	`BSDTech`	`I would kiss you but I dont think you want me to`
`21:44.44`	`Zorix`	`ha`
`21:44.46`	`BSDTech`	`lol`
`21:45.28`	`Bobthehunter`	`can you set 2 things on one line or its pushing it ;)`
`21:46.09`	`matt_`	`anybody know of a voip provider that will allow me to phone UK 90 numbers ?`
`21:46.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : Yes, you're pushing it...`
`21:46.30`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
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`21:47.16`	`AJaymn`	`matt_ isnt that a cell #?`
`21:47.37`	`matt_`	`AJaymn, its used for tv programs`
`21:47.41`	`matt_`	`for voting and stuff`
`21:48.12`	`matt_`	`well dosn't have to be used by tv stuff but it normally is`
`21:48.25`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok then.. and to have exten => \d{8,10}NXXNXXNNNN`
`21:48.27`	`Bobthehunter`	`;)`
`21:48.47`	`Bobthehunter`	`or something that would end in something`
`21:49.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`like.. exten => ANYTHING_8004633339`
`21:49.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`. i assume`
`21:50.26`	`matt_`	`http://www.voiptalk.org/products/view-tariff.php?destination=UK+Premium&submit=Search`
`21:50.42`	`matt_`	`thats a little expencive`
`21:51.38`	`lba`	`I'm trying to page several Grandstream GXP-2000 phones from Asterisk 1.25 but get the following error:`
`21:51.43`	`lba`	`Jan 27 12:55:04 WARNING[30401]: app_page.c:183 page_exec: Incomplete destination '' supplied.`
`21:51.56`	`lba`	`Anyone help me on fixing this?`
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`21:52.44`	`mike052278`	`hey hardwire you around? :P`
`21:55.11`	`lba`	`I can see the error on line 183 in the source but don't understand what to do about it.`
`21:55.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : perhaps you should pastebin the CLI output of your attempted call as well as the dialplan the originates it and teh SIP.conf entries of the phones being paged...`
`21:55.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`21:55.34`	`jbot`	`i guess pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`21:55.54`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'll do that.`
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`21:57.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok one other quickie.. SetExten.. doesnt exits.. and Set(EXTEN="123") doesnt work`
`21:57.10`	`Bobthehunter`	`anyother options`
`21:57.22`	`Bobthehunter`	`or i just can write to ro vars lol`
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`21:58.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter :You can't SET the exten. its what you DIALED.`
`21:58.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter : what are you trying to accomplish?`
`21:58.53`	`De_Mon`	`who is this bob and what drugs is he taking`
`21:59.16`	`De_Mon`	`Bobthehunter try GOTO(exten) and make sure that extension exists`
`21:59.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon : And then let him discover that he needs to set a priority too ;)`
`22:00.11`	`De_Mon`	`shhh`
`22:00.27`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have pasted the info in http://www.pastebin.ca/330419`
`22:01.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`lol`
`22:01.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : Please try again, and set "verbose=10" in * CLI`
`22:02.13`	`De_Mon`	`is 10 the higest verbose that does any thing?`
`22:02.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : And WHERE exactly did you define that "variable"?`
`22:02.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon : its probably higher than technically exists, and gets the job done :)`
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`22:03.46`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: Should the variable go in a special place? I defined it at the end of the **2 context`
`22:04.17`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: and then I include the entire **2 context in my [default]`
`22:04.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : first. thats not how you set variable. and what you describing looks more like a CONSTANT, which belongs under [globals]`
`22:04.38`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: Should the variable go in [general]?`
`22:05.22`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: Ah [global] I'll do that. brb`
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`22:09.49`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I put the variable in [globals] and reloaded but no change. Error message is the same.`
`22:10.35`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: and yes, the 'variable' is really a constant.`
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`22:12.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : Please provide the verbose 10 output of your latest call attempt and every context of your dialplan that is involved with it.`
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`22:13.05`	`nextime`	`hi, anyone using chan_gtalk in 1.4.0?`
`22:14.09`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I fixed the problem and paging works now. I put the constand in [globals] as varname=constant and it worked.`
`22:14.33`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: The only problem is that the other extensions take a long time to stop ringing but it's a giant set fwd for me.`
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`22:17.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : So it works, just that some phones take longer to stop ringing and join the page?`
`22:17.58`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: yes. I dialed **2, wife picked up downstairs, we talked hands-free, I hung up and phones continued ringing.`
`22:18.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : Welcome to the wonderful world of GrandSuck phones....`
`22:18.48`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: You might be right but I have 13 of the Suckers`
`22:20.50`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I might not have set all the phones correctly.`
`22:21.38`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I think not all the GS phones are set to "answer" on ring 0.`
`22:21.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : Most samples with Page show use of a local channel which sets the header on an individual basis.`
`22:22.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : Could be that only the first one gets it.`
`22:22.41`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I don't understand what you mean. I _thought_ only one person should get the call but with hands free you can't tell who is speaking.`
`22:24.05`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: Maybe I'll ask wife to pickup the handset, see if that shuts the others up.`
`22:24.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : No, this isn't just a "ringall" function. thats what DIAL is for.`
`22:24.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : Page is so that EVERYONE is meant to auto-answer so EVERYONE can hear what the pager wants to say.`
`22:24.47`	`robin_sz`	`so, to set a database entry like "database put office open 0" from the CLI is easy, but how do I do it from a crontab, ie a bash prompt?`
`22:24.51`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: So then 1 or more phones are not auto-answering. That would be a setting.`
`22:25.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : asterisk -rx "database put office open 0"`
`22:25.18`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: setting in the individual phone that is. It's a PITA to conform them.`
`22:25.26`	`robin_sz`	`-rx . right thanks`
`22:30.02`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: Thanks for your help TK. Not only this prob, you have been very helpful before.`
`22:30.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : no prob..`
`22:31.41`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: I guess I thought by including the entire context, the constant would come along. Maybe it would if I had a simple equals sign instead of =>.`
`22:33.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lba : no, it has nothing to do with include. it must be defined up top. no other way.`
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`22:34.34`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: OK I see now where I went off. Another lesson learned!`
`22:34.44`	`lba`	`[TK]D-Fender: Thanks again.`
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`22:40.25`	`robin_sz`	`ahh, nice ... new wonderful office opening system :) ...`
`22:41.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : Why cron-ing that?`
`22:41.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : Thats what GotoIfTime is for...`
`22:42.03`	`robin_sz`	`thats not going to work is it`
`22:42.27`	`robin_sz`	`how does that handle it if we get in a bit ealry?`
`22:42.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : Not saying it won't work... jsut why use an outside tool to do something that * already has a dedicated app for?`
`22:42.36`	`robin_sz`	`or leave early?`
`22:42.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : leave early sure... but that wouldn't be CRON now would it :)`
`22:43.09`	`robin_sz`	`ok, so .. lets use gotoiftime then ...`
`22:43.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : I have dialplan macros for forcing business hours on/off/normal.`
`22:43.44`	`robin_sz`	`?`
`22:43.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : so that admins can call in remote and open/close the place at a distance if they are snowed in, etc.`
`22:44.34`	`robin_sz`	`same here, I set database office open [0\|1] by dialing 600 or 601`
`22:44.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : as in use 91 to force closed, 92 force opem, **93 force normal hours).`
`22:44.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : But what would you CRON it?`
`22:45.01`	`robin_sz`	`and if you set force open and then forget about it?`
`22:45.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : You TOLD it to do something. should the system IGNORE your edict?`
`22:45.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`what if you deciding to close up shop late? will the system suddenly ignore your customers and shove them to VM?`
`22:45.42`	`robin_sz`	`I must visit your perfect world someday`
`22:45.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : thats the POINT of forcing open.`
`22:46.04`	`robin_sz`	`well, that abviously works for you`
`22:46.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : I do it every day.... it just ends with a buzzing noise around 7am ;)`
`22:46.16`	`robin_sz`	`it would not work for us, we are too forgetful`
`22:46.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : is your priority to merely force closed?`
`22:47.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : Perhaps a single cron for say midnight would compensate (or earlier reasonable max time)`
`22:47.20`	`robin_sz`	`cron just opens at 8am and closes at 5pm ... and closes again at 12pm on a satuyrday`
`22:48.01`	`robin_sz`	`and to be fair, it only routes numbers on the "PITA" list to "sorry we are closed" ;)`
`22:48.25`	`robin_sz`	`I think I might have a 3 level thing ...`
`22:48.51`	`robin_sz`	`really closed, closed to people who are a pita, and open`
`22:48.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : If this is just for basic fixed hours then a simple GotoIfTime block should be sufficient.`
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`22:49.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robin_sz : If you are looking to do that PLUS manual controls, see what side of things is your priority, and what safeguards are needed.`
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`22:50.06`	`robin_sz`	`I suspect it will end up with something like "set it to open as soon as the first answered call of the day is detected"`
`22:50.46`	`robin_sz`	`hmmm wait`
`22:50.51`	`robin_sz`	`theres a flaw in that ;0`
`22:51.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`;)`
`22:52.03`	`robin_sz`	`what would be nice is a way to add numbers to the PITA list, like they hang up, I dial **1 and they get blacklisted or some such`
`22:52.25`	`robin_sz`	`I already have friend and black lists implemented`
`22:54.04`	`robin_sz`	`Iguess that wodl have to be done in-call as thats the only time * has the callerid`
`22:55.56`	`mquin`	`perhaps you could do something with the DB system - store the ID of the last incoming call`
`22:56.09`	`robin_sz`	`well, thats how it works`
`22:56.28`	`robin_sz`	`database put blacklist 0123554321 1`
`22:57.13`	`robin_sz`	`it would be nice to do that from the phone, not the cli`
`23:00.18`	`mquin`	`robin_sz: what I'm suggesting is that for _every_ call you store the caller id - that way your 'PITA' extension can retrieve the called id of the previous call, and add that to your blacklist`
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`23:01.24`	`robin_sz`	`mquin, how would it know which call was the PITA one?`
`23:01.45`	`mquin`	`because it was the last call received`
`23:01.49`	`robin_sz`	`we have 8 incoming lines`
`23:02.53`	`robin_sz`	`it would need to be extension-specific in some way`
`23:04.01`	`mquin`	`that should be possible as well - define it as part of the extension macro`
`23:04.12`	`mquin`	`so you'd have a 'last caller' stored for each extension`
`23:04.35`	`robin_sz`	`that sounds more doable`
`23:05.22`	`robin_sz`	`to be fair, theres only a few I need to go in there ... some customers seem to think we never sleep!`
`23:07.04`	`robin_sz`	`you know how it is, the big $$$ customers who cause minimal hassle and then theres the 50c customers who ring 28 times a day to ask pointless questions about something they already beat the price down on to the point of making a loss`
`23:07.52`	`robin_sz`	`the former are always welcome to call, whatever time, the latter have to be restricted to normal office hours`
`23:09.46`	`robin_sz`	`now if I could somehow hook up the open/closed function to a button onthe phone and have the little light by the side of it display the state ....`
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`23:20.40`	`Qwell`	`robin_sz: if it's a feature - no, it didn't`
`23:20.40`	`robin_sz`	`yeah, I just checked show applications`
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`23:22.09`	`robin_sz`	`misdn_set_opt dtmf_detect [yes\|no\|sometimes]`
`23:22.16`	`robin_sz`	`I fear mine must be set to sometimes`
`23:23.40`	`robin_sz`	`app_devstate would make it quite easy to create a snom button for setting the office state from open to closed etc`
`23:23.57`	`robin_sz`	`and showing it on a blinken light`
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`23:25.08`	`robin_sz`	`telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl ;)`
`23:25.08`	`Nugget`	`telnet is eeeeeeevil!`
`23:26.14`	`mistermocha`	`what's wrong with telnet?`
`23:26.29`	`Qwell`	`it's telnet`
`23:26.46`	`robin_sz`	`it has its uses ...`
`23:26.51`	`yassine`	`are 512mhz +256 mb enough for an asterisk only box ?`
`23:26.55`	`robin_sz`	`not many though`
`23:27.02`	`Qwell`	`yassine: sure`
`23:27.05`	`Qwell`	`but, 512mhz?`
`23:28.48`	`yassine`	`i just have an old cashpoint machine which i would like to use for that`
`23:29.03`	`robin_sz`	`did it come with cash?`
`23:29.16`	`Qwell`	`does it dispense cash?`
`23:29.34`	`yassine`	`:) unfotunatly not`
`23:29.50`	`robin_sz`	`did they leave the hardwareencryption cvard for you ?`
`23:30.15`	`yassine`	`i have everything here except the power cable :)`
`23:30.22`	`robin_sz`	`ooh :)`
`23:30.29`	`Qwell`	`proprietary power cable?`
`23:31.04`	`The_DoC^`	`Is anyone farmilliar with the Tundo System?`
`23:31.13`	`yassine`	`no its a strange thing looks like old cable for speaker boxes that have been used for old turntables`
`23:31.15`	`The_DoC^`	`wow, bad spelling`
`23:31.30`	`robin_sz`	`must be american`
`23:32.29`	`robin_sz`	`shitty power cable seems to be an american speciality`
`23:32.55`	`robin_sz`	`send a man to the moon , but cant make a decen table lamp`
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`23:34.47`	`The_DoC^`	`do you have a image of the power connector socket`
`23:34.50`	`Qwell`	`matt_: he likes the attention`
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`23:39.55`	`svenna_`	`hi, i ve got * running on my soho firewall. what ports do i have to open, to connect from the outside? isnt it tcp 5060 -> i cant connect...`
`23:40.26`	`Nugget`	`udp.`
`23:40.40`	`svenna_`	`ahhh i see`
`23:41.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`svenna_ : And you might want to consider RTP if you intend on HEARING anyone.....`
`23:41.44`	`svenna_`	`hearing anyone might be usefull...`
`23:42.05`	`Strom_C`	`svenna_: udp 5060 and 10000-20000`
`23:43.04`	`svenna_`	`ok, thx ill give it a try :-)`
`23:43.14`	`The_DoC^`	`what standalone fxo do people suggest using`
`23:43.22`	`Qwell`	`The_DoC^: define standalone?`
`23:43.24`	`Qwell`	`like an ATA?`
`23:44.14`	`The_DoC^`	`yes`
`23:44.28`	`Qwell`	`I see people recommend the spa-3xxx (3102 was it?) sometimes`
`23:45.26`	`Strom_C`	`fwiw, i have a 3102 that I was never able to get working`
`23:45.29`	`The_DoC^`	`I am using 2 pap2's and a rt31p2 for the fxs ata's but I need something for pstn`
`23:45.55`	`Qwell`	`Strom_C: you're a nub though`
`23:46.13`	`The_DoC^`	`I was looking at the x100p's but I don't have room to add it in my 1u server running Asterisk`
`23:46.15`	`Strom_C`	`yes`
`23:46.18`	`Strom_C`	`i'm just some nub`
`23:46.49`	`Qwell`	`You probably tried pulse/rotary dialing it :P`
`23:47.01`	`Strom_C`	`hahah`
`23:47.08`	`rudholm`	`hey, telnet definitely has its uses`
`23:47.17`	`Strom_C`	`hey, i have a payphone hooked to my iaxy`
`23:47.19`	`Strom_C`	`beat that`
`23:47.40`	`Qwell`	`I have an iaxy in my phone :p`
`23:47.51`	`rudholm`	`Strom_C: how about a three-slot hooked up to my TDM400?`
`23:47.57`	`rudholm`	`:-p`
`23:48.31`	`The_DoC^`	`I put a payphone in the middle of the corn field donw the street and attatched it to a wireless backhaul to here`
`23:48.54`	`Strom_C`	`rudholm: you win if you hook those transducers up`
`23:49.12`	`rudholm`	`Strom_C: in due time, in due time...`
`23:49.32`	`rudholm`	`Strom_C: the recording of the flummoxed operator will be priceless.`
`23:49.44`	`Qwell`	`huh?`
`23:49.47`	`Qwell`	`rudholm: 'splain`
`23:50.01`	`rudholm`	`I have a real 17Q Coin Service Line from my local RBOC`
`23:50.24`	`rudholm`	`at the moment, it's connected to a 2C2 (similar to the one that now towers over Strom's desk)`
`23:50.32`	`Qwell`	`dumb that down a tad`
`23:50.46`	`Qwell`	`wait, wait, wait`
`23:50.51`	`rudholm`	`I have a payphone line from SBC/AT&T`
`23:50.51`	`Qwell`	`you have a payphone LINE?`
`23:50.53`	`rudholm`	`yes`
`23:50.54`	`Qwell`	`wtf`
`23:51.00`	`Qwell`	`how the crap did you manage that?`
`23:51.09`	`rudholm`	`heh "wtf?" is basically what the installer said.`
`23:51.14`	`Qwell`	`heh`
`23:51.34`	`Qwell`	`walk me through it - I'll totally put a payphone next to my mailbox`
`23:51.43`	`Strom_C`	`http://www.stromcarlson.com/2D2/DSC03435.JPG`
`23:51.50`	`rudholm`	`I called up the coin service people at SBC's main office in Texas and ordered it.`
`23:52.13`	`The_DoC^`	`I have a "Dry Pair" to my parents with a sdsl connection between them`
`23:52.20`	`rudholm`	`I had to fax/mail some order form in`
`23:52.29`	`rudholm`	`took them a few weeks to push the order through`
`23:52.45`	`rudholm`	`where it said "Business Name" I just put my name (hey, I'm a consultant from time to time)`
`23:52.56`	`rudholm`	`it's not cheap, though.`
`23:53.07`	`rudholm`	`which is why I'm working on getting Asterisk to emulate a coin service line`
`23:53.17`	`Qwell`	`it's just dtmf, right?`
`23:53.25`	`rudholm`	`no`
`23:53.26`	`Strom_C`	`qwell: can the tdm400 push +/-130vDC for one second?`
`23:53.30`	`Qwell`	`got me`
`23:53.40`	`fetcher`	`try googling for "red box" plans ;)`
`23:53.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : All that tech... and still the shittiest ancient KeyTronic keyboard I've seen in ages :)`
`23:53.44`	`rudholm`	`coin tones are 1700Hz+2200Hz in 66 or 33ms bursts`
`23:53.44`	`Qwell`	`I know it can do 90 with boost ringer`
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`23:53.55`	`Strom_C`	`[TK]D-Fender: that's a genuine IBM thank you very much`
`23:54.11`	`squish102`	`is it true that i have to run httpd as the user asterisk for version 1.2 of asterisk?`
`23:54.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_C : Same profile... bastard...`
`23:55.05`	`rudholm`	`Qwell: the �130VDC I've already taken care of, but I need to hack the zaptel driver to detect 1700+2200Hz`
`23:55.12`	`fetcher`	`squish102: you don't need to run httpd at all`
`23:55.17`	`Qwell`	`rudholm: shouldn't be hard - it already detects DTMF`
`23:55.25`	`fetcher`	`unless you're talking about Trixbox or some other GUI/web-frontend. Dunno about those`
`23:55.28`	`rudholm`	`Qwell: that was what I reason, as well.`
`23:55.29`	`Qwell`	`just add another sequence`
`23:55.35`	`rudholm`	`right`
`23:55.54`	`squish102`	`ok thanks fetcher, i did not want to use the swear word "freepbx" here`
`23:56.07`	`rudholm`	`Qwell: there are some other electrical tests that a real coin line does, like stuck coin, or coin deposit tests, but I don't really care about those.`
`23:56.10`	`*** join/#asterisk sharp (n=sharp@c-68-46-30-7.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)`
`23:56.49`	`rudholm`	`but anyway, I'm just using the parallel port's TTL lines to control the coin relay`
`23:57.03`	`rudholm`	`two lines, one for coin direction, the other is a Data Valid line.`
`23:57.40`	`rudholm`	`the potential that drives the coin relay is with respect to earth, since there's no earth involved with Asterisk, I'm just going to use a third conductor in addition to tip and ring.`
`23:58.26`	`rudholm`	`I could do coin deposit test (this is an electrical test that shows if any coin at all has been deposited) and stop there, but I want full coin decoding.`
`23:58.36`	`*** join/#asterisk ToyMan (n=Stuart@user-12lcqu6.cable.mindspring.com)`
`23:58.45`	`rudholm`	`Coin Detect is the reason you have to put at least one coin in before your redbox will work.`
`23:59.03`	`Qwell`	`one "valid" coin?`
`23:59.05`	`Qwell`	`ie; not a penny?`
`23:59.07`	`rudholm`	`yes`
`23:59.10`	`Strom_C`	`five cents`
`23:59.10`	`rudholm`	`at least a nickel`
`23:59.13`	`Qwell`	`right`
`23:59.18`	`rudholm`	`you could use a dime or quarter`
`23:59.23`	`rudholm`	`but those cost more :)`
`23:59.26`	`Qwell`	`but why would you want to? :P`
`23:59.31`	`rudholm`	`right`
`23:59.38`	`\|dennis\|`	`i have a TDM400P with four fxs modules, am using one analog pots line for testing. I have inbound configured so that it dials extension 101 when a call come in on the zap channel. Lets say someone calls from the outside and disconnects immediately, it takes about6-7 seconds before my sip phone stops ringing and before i see that a hangup in the asterisk cli. ANother thing that happend was i called from a cellphone via the pots and disconnected immediat`
`23:59.38`	`\|dennis\|`	`ely, the sip phone continued to ring, i then picked up the sip phone and i got an acutal dial tone and it let me dial through....this is not good for security..any help on this please`

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