| 00:02.37 | robin_sz | wait ,.. no, still not auth'd |
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| 00:04.46 | robin_sz | ick .. I confused the "rebooted but not yet rejected" status of the snom with "working" .. it still fails to authenticate |
| 00:14.30 | diclophis-work | anyone here use "Coccinella " |
| 00:15.59 | robin_sz | the drug? |
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| 00:20.57 | diclophis-work | no the IM client |
| 00:21.31 | diclophis-work | do you know of a voice+gtalk client that works on OSX? |
| 00:23.23 | perd | what is gtalk? |
| 00:23.29 | diclophis-work | google talk? |
| 00:23.31 | mafkees | googletalk |
| 00:23.33 | perd | oh |
| 00:23.33 | diclophis-work | aka jingle |
| 00:23.38 | perd | voip google stuff? |
| 00:23.42 | perd | i didnt know they made that |
| 00:24.21 | perd | Mac and Linux users can connect to Google Talk using other IM clients |
| 00:24.26 | perd | gaim maybe? |
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| 00:24.41 | perd | nm no gaim for mac |
| 00:25.00 | perd | http://www.tuaw.com/2005/08/23/how-to-set-up-google-talk-on-your-mac/ |
| 00:25.57 | diclophis-work | yea i want voice support though |
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| 00:26.07 | y3hsDotBiz | good day everyone |
| 00:26.19 | perd | well that's all i got, dic |
| 00:26.21 | perd | ;) |
| 00:26.33 | diclophis-work | thanks for looking though |
| 00:26.35 | y3hsDotBiz | how many concurrent connections can a 2MB bandwidth have if all are using g729 codecs |
| 00:26.36 | perd | hehe |
| 00:27.08 | fetcher | y3hsDotBiz: SIP, plain IAX, or IAX trunking? |
| 00:28.07 | y3hsDotBiz | SIP |
| 00:28.21 | y3hsDotBiz | SIP going to voice provider |
| 00:28.38 | y3hsDotBiz | but using IAX softphones as local extensions |
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| 00:28.57 | fetcher | y3hsDotBiz: SIP will have very high overhead in that application-- 40 bytes of headers for every 20 bytes of voice |
| 00:29.35 | fetcher | y3hsDotBiz: you could fit about 80 calls over the 2Mb line, with SIP/RTP |
| 00:29.44 | y3hsDotBiz | ok.. |
| 00:29.56 | y3hsDotBiz | 80 calls? |
| 00:30.43 | fetcher | y3hsDotBiz: 60 bytes per packet, 50 packets/sec (assuming 20ms sample rate), so 3000 bytes or 24000 bit/second/channel |
| 00:30.55 | fetcher | 2000000/24000 == 83.333 |
| 00:31.41 | fetcher | Running VAD (silence suppression) could squeeze more in, if both ends support it and your users tolerate it |
| 00:32.00 | y3hsDotBiz | so thats the concurrent connections if we have g729 |
| 00:32.37 | fetcher | yup. G729 does 8:1 compression, squeezing 160 bytes of ulaw data down to 20 |
| 00:32.53 | y3hsDotBiz | ok.. |
| 00:33.04 | fetcher | But doesn't do anything for IP+UDP+RTP headers, which are 20+8+12 bytes or 40 in all, per packet |
| 00:33.05 | y3hsDotBiz | 80 calls at a time right? |
| 00:33.05 | y3hsDotBiz | thanks |
| 00:33.20 | fetcher | whereas IAX trunking could give you least 120 |
| 00:33.32 | fetcher | at least, rather |
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| 00:33.50 | y3hsDotBiz | even if its on a predictive dialer? |
| 00:33.56 | y3hsDotBiz | could it still do 80 calls at a time |
| 00:33.57 | y3hsDotBiz | ? |
| 00:34.39 | fetcher | Right, it doesn't matter how the calls or placed, or incoming / outgoing mix |
| 00:34.56 | BOLIVIAN | how much bandwidth needs voip per call? |
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| 00:34.59 | fetcher | But if you don't want to go all the way to 80 if there's any other traffic on that circuit |
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| 00:35.41 | fetcher | BOLIVIAN: varies quite a bit depending on codec & protocol. Anywhere from ~16kb/s to 90kb/s |
| 00:36.15 | BOLIVIAN | thats for both ways_? |
| 00:36.36 | BOLIVIAN | theres no uploading or downlading issue here? |
| 00:36.37 | JT | each way |
| 00:36.46 | fetcher | BOLIVIAN: in each direction, so double that for two-way combined |
| 00:36.51 | JT | no-one combines both ways traffic into one figure |
| 00:36.51 | UltimateX | Does anyone know a good tutorial about setting up a Asterisk System? |
| 00:37.14 | diclophis-work | ~book |
| 00:37.18 | jbot | somebody said book was a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 00:37.18 | puzzled | UltimateX: buy or download the Asterisk book |
| 00:37.29 | BOLIVIAN | so with a dsl of 126kps would be enought? |
| 00:37.29 | UltimateX | buy, pssh. Cool i'll download it :-) |
| 00:37.31 | diclophis-work | gotta love the jbot |
| 00:37.36 | UltimateX | Thanks jbot |
| 00:38.33 | puzzled | UltimateX: by buying the book it will make it worthwhile for the authors to keep doing it again for the next version of Asterisk |
| 00:40.25 | UltimateX | You're right, but i dont have the money to buy a full retail priced book. Especially if its at Barnes N Noble |
| 00:41.36 | fetcher | Has SIP Presence/BLF support improved much from 1.0 -> 1.2, or 1.2 -> 1.4 ? |
| 00:42.06 | robin_sz | [TK]D-Fender, nope .. removing "from user" has not helped |
| 00:42.24 | fetcher | It seemed a bit flaky on a 1.0.11 install I was using to test (with Polycom IP 501's) |
| 00:42.53 | robin_sz | 1.0.11? ancient ... |
| 00:43.10 | robin_sz | did you dial in roman numerals? |
| 00:43.39 | fetcher | robin_sz: I know... it's running from flash on an embedded board, though, so harder than usual to upgrade |
| 00:43.56 | robin_sz | it works 'sometimes' for me in 1.2 with my snoms |
| 00:44.00 | robin_sz | ick |
| 00:44.35 | fetcher | robin_sz: 'sometimes' -> suddenly stops updating until you reboot a phone? |
| 00:44.47 | fetcher | that's the trouble I was having with these Polycom's |
| 00:45.46 | robin_sz | havent poaid much attention to it .. it shows busy abiout 50% of the time the other phone really is busy I think |
| 00:48.19 | fetcher | y3hsDotBiz: 16Kb/s or more. So, SIP/RTP + G.729 is 33% payload, 67% overhead ;( |
| 00:50.03 | [TK]D-Fender | fetcher : yes presence has gone through some pretty big changes.... |
| 00:50.49 | fetcher | [TK]D-Fender: in 1.4 ? |
| 00:51.05 | CJLinst | Is there a definitive list for what types of subscription hints are available. |
| 00:51.32 | [TK]D-Fender | fetcher : 1.4 isnt stable with it yet. Latest 1.2 si good |
| 00:52.18 | fetcher | [TK]D-Fender: ah, cool. Already running 1.2.13 on the production boxen... |
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| 00:53.27 | [TK]D-Fender | fetcher : 1.2.6 was a major fix as hints would get reset on "reload" |
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| 00:55.55 | CJLinst | I see a wiki reference to hints on an Agent, and of course there's SIP. Are there any others? |
| 00:57.35 | eald | 5~ |
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| 01:15.37 | booray | is it possible to have a sip hints wildcard line? I'm trying 'exten => _2XXX,hint,${EXTEN}' with no luck, as 'core show hints' shows it as a single unavailable line |
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| 01:16.09 | [TK]D-Fender | booray : No. |
| 01:16.26 | booray | ha |
| 01:16.34 | booray | [TK]D-Fender: thanks. :) |
| 01:16.51 | booray | [TK]D-Fender: are there rumors of that happening ever? |
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| 01:21.17 | [TK]D-Fender | booray : No, but you could always start one yourself... |
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| 01:34.23 | dlynes_laptop | [TK]D-Fender: that's gonna happen |
| 01:35.46 | booray | I read somewhere once... |
| 01:36.10 | booray | but I suppose I could magically enumerate all hints in an ael file |
| 01:36.30 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes_laptop : Certainly could :) |
| 01:37.00 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes_laptop : Not unless you have designs in motion assuring his demise ;) |
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| 01:37.56 | DocHolliday | what is the story with Asterisk and Fax machines? |
| 01:38.20 | bkruse_home | theres a story? |
| 01:38.52 | DocHolliday | heh :) what i mean to say is, has Asterisk had a good track record with receiving / sending faxes? |
| 01:40.04 | [TK]D-Fender | DocHolliday : Bits & pieces anyways :) Rule of thumb : If you value them, leave it on a analog line of its own. |
| 01:40.45 | DocHolliday | [TK]D-Fender, what if i dont have any lines and its preferable to go all analog or all voip? |
| 01:40.48 | [TK]D-Fender | DocHolliday : .... |
| 01:40.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wglwat |
| 01:41.02 | jbot | hmm... wglwat is well, good luck with all that |
| 01:41.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wglwaot |
| 01:41.53 | DocHolliday | [TK]D-Fender, i cant install both voip and analog lines.. that defeats the purpose. |
| 01:42.06 | bkruse_home | [TK]D-Fender: is he kidding? |
| 01:43.24 | DocHolliday | bkruse_home, when you are renting space in executive offices they charge you like nuts for phone installs |
| 01:43.35 | DocHolliday | i'd rather just swing VoIP in via the internet i have to pay for anyway |
| 01:43.55 | bkruse_home | sure, but i would have 1 line for emergency calls and what not |
| 01:44.03 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: I don't have any problem with faxing right now, myself |
| 01:44.17 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: but, I'm using a combination of app_rxfax and iaxmodem |
| 01:44.22 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: all on a pri |
| 01:45.07 | DocHolliday | ah, have you used AsterFax? |
| 01:45.11 | dlynes_laptop | nope |
| 01:45.27 | dlynes_laptop | I've heard of it, checked out their website |
| 01:45.34 | dlynes_laptop | Still don't know what it is, or how it works though |
| 01:46.12 | DocHolliday | dlynes_laptop, my preferred scenario is all VoIP and an ATA for the fax machine |
| 01:46.35 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: that might work if you have asterisk on the same lan as the ata |
| 01:46.45 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: otherwise, forget about it |
| 01:46.51 | [TK]D-Fender | DocHolliday : I think your preferred scenario is ones where your faxes DON'T arrive like CONFETTI. |
| 01:47.01 | carrar | exit |
| 01:47.03 | carrar | err |
| 01:47.38 | carrar | sorry |
| 01:47.38 | DocHolliday | yep i do, basically internet ---> router/firewall --> switch [phones/computers/ATAs] |
| 01:47.38 | [TK]D-Fender | DocHolliday : But go ahead and try what you will. We've all "been there, done that". |
| 01:47.44 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: and where is asterisk in there? internet? router? switch? |
| 01:48.02 | DocHolliday | its on that same switch :) |
| 01:48.06 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: fwiw, even on the same lan, I had issues getting faxing working |
| 01:48.40 | DocHolliday | dlynes_laptop, what about an FX0/FXS card? |
| 01:48.45 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: but some people have reported success with it |
| 01:49.06 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: i thought you said you didn't have any analog lines? |
| 01:49.10 | DocHolliday | yeah, makes sense |
| 01:49.13 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: so why would you have an fxo/fxs gateway? |
| 01:49.44 | [TK]D-Fender | DocHolliday : I'm going to try to make this clear, but you semed to have missed the point. -> NO. Anything you think of shoving inbetween a boring analog line & your fax machie is inviting pre-mature baldness. |
| 01:50.01 | dlynes_laptop | It's not inviting it |
| 01:50.04 | dlynes_laptop | It's guaranteeing it :) |
| 01:50.21 | DocHolliday | dlynes_laptop, i can use an analog card in the pace of an ATA |
| 01:50.27 | DocHolliday | *place |
| 01:50.37 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: that might work |
| 01:51.06 | DocHolliday | if there is a known quality improvement i'm happy to spring for an analog card.. still rides VoIP though >:) |
| 01:51.23 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: not exactly |
| 01:51.29 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: analog from fax to asterisk |
| 01:51.35 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: asterisk to asterisk via email |
| 01:51.50 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: asterisk to destination fax via hylafax and iaxmodem |
| 01:51.57 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: over pri |
| 01:52.09 | DocHolliday | well the idea is for the faxes to come and go through the fax machine.. i really dont care about eFaxes |
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| 01:52.36 | codestr0m | I'm sure this is old news, but I find this incrediably cool.. http://www.rowetel.com/ucasterisk/ |
| 01:52.37 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: and how are they going to arrive at the final destination without an analog line? |
| 01:52.52 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: asterisk doesn't do t.38 |
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| 01:53.09 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: and forget doing ulaw faxing over the internet...it's just not possible |
| 01:53.10 | bkruse_home | t.38 passthru? |
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| 01:53.25 | dlynes_laptop | bkruse_home: t.38 passthru, sure |
| 01:53.45 | dlynes_laptop | bkruse_home: but I've still yet to find carriers that actually support anything other than g729 or g723.1 |
| 01:53.53 | DocHolliday | dlynes_laptop, what are companies like vonage doing who say you can switch your fax over no problem |
| 01:54.04 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: pri? |
| 01:54.19 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: t.38 switching equipment not running on asterisk? |
| 01:54.23 | bkruse_home | right |
| 01:54.24 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: vonage is using all cisco gear |
| 01:55.01 | bkruse_home | bleh |
| 01:55.06 | DocHolliday | hrmm, i just have a hard time believing there is such a huge issue sending / receiving faxes |
| 01:55.18 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: don't believe it then |
| 01:55.22 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: pull out all your hair |
| 01:55.29 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: and eventually when you're bald |
| 01:55.33 | dlynes_laptop | DocHolliday: you'll finally believe us :) |
| 01:55.38 | DocHolliday | haha |
| 01:55.44 | Qwell | faxing isn't an issue |
| 01:55.50 | Qwell | faxing over a digital medium, IS |
| 01:57.28 | DocHolliday | yeah, apaprently |
| 01:57.42 | DocHolliday | Qwell, how bad / good is the faxing with asterisk |
| 01:57.55 | file | Permission Denied. |
| 01:57.56 | Qwell | with what techologies? |
| 01:58.45 | file | bkruse_home: I don't believe you |
| 01:59.02 | DocHolliday | qwell, a reasonably priced fax machine, an ATA / analog card and Asterisk over VoIP :P |
| 01:59.16 | bkruse_home | file: :( |
| 01:59.23 | DocHolliday | i have a dedicated data leased line 10Mbps bidirectional |
| 01:59.35 | Qwell | DocHolliday: get an ATA that supports T.38 |
| 01:59.41 | Qwell | ATA and provider |
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| 02:00.20 | DocHolliday | okay so an ATA that is T.38 compliant is better than a PCI analog card? |
| 02:00.29 | Qwell | if you plan on doing something silly like faxing over IP, yes |
| 02:00.41 | Maveric | faxing over ip = death |
| 02:00.43 | Maveric | don't do it |
| 02:01.08 | DocHolliday | qwell, great now if i do the above will the quality be good? |
| 02:01.29 | Qwell | fax doesn't have a "quality" |
| 02:01.33 | Qwell | it either works or it doesn't |
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| 02:01.41 | DocHolliday | will it work :) |
| 02:01.44 | Maveric | and over ip it does some of the time |
| 02:01.55 | Qwell | not with a connection like that, no |
| 02:01.56 | Qwell | heh |
| 02:02.12 | Maveric | any of the digium guys here? |
| 02:02.28 | Qwell | Maveric: I've seen at least 3 talk within the last 5 minutes... |
| 02:02.41 | Maveric | hmm wonder if its any of them that i know |
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| 02:03.10 | DocHolliday | sorry qwell, will it work? |
| 02:03.15 | Qwell | not with a connection like that, no |
| 02:03.53 | DocHolliday | haha :) thats TOR not my connection :P |
| 02:04.07 | dlynes_laptop | Maveric: btw, if you have a death wish, keep irc'ing as root |
| 02:04.27 | bkruse_home | i think im root |
| 02:04.31 | bkruse_home | wait |
| 02:04.32 | Maveric | dlynes_laptop there is a reason i am irc'ing as root |
| 02:04.33 | bkruse_home | nvm |
| 02:04.34 | bkruse_home | :] |
| 02:04.34 | DocHolliday | qwell, in all seriousness, will it work? :P |
| 02:05.39 | *** mode/#asterisk [-b *!*@freenode/staff/bhaal] by Qwell |
| 02:05.45 | dlynes_laptop | hehehe |
| 02:06.00 | dlynes_laptop | You really dislike that freenode op don't you, Qwell? |
| 02:06.13 | Qwell | no |
| 02:06.16 | dlynes_laptop | The one that keeps banning Bhaal, that is |
| 02:06.27 | DocHolliday | Qwell, a lot of work.. T38 ATA and a 'special' voip provider |
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| 02:06.34 | Qwell | LoRez? no way, he fixed the "problem" |
| 02:06.40 | dlynes_laptop | ah |
| 02:07.02 | dlynes_laptop | Yeah...LoRez...that was his name |
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| 02:15.30 | [TK]D-Fender | DocHolliday : You seem rather sure of your success. You've been warned. Faiure will no doubt cost you far more than keeping a single analog line for it would have. |
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| 02:17.32 | Maveric | ok |
| 02:18.13 | Maveric | any digium fold around? |
| 02:18.30 | file | Maveric: perhaps, what'cha need |
| 02:19.04 | Maveric | well mainly looking to talk to a digium person in private maybe |
| 02:19.24 | Maveric | bah i need to reconnect |
| 02:19.24 | Qwell | I already said there were several.. |
| 02:19.27 | Maveric | brb |
| 02:19.39 | Maveric | i know you did and thank you for that qwell i was just rechecking |
| 02:19.45 | Maveric | as i left |
| 02:19.48 | Maveric | brb |
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| 02:20.38 | Maveric | ok |
| 02:20.39 | Qwell | Maveric: yes, there are still Digium folks around. ;) |
| 02:20.52 | Maveric | well thats good |
| 02:21.01 | xheliox | Hey Qwell... |
| 02:21.07 | xheliox | Are there any Digium people around? |
| 02:21.09 | Maveric | malcolmd maybe? |
| 02:21.14 | Qwell | Maveric: no |
| 02:21.22 | Qwell | xheliox: and no, not for you |
| 02:21.26 | xheliox | :( |
| 02:21.38 | puzzled | I would settle for no less than the kramster himself |
| 02:21.46 | Maveric | i know him a lot better but another digium sales person might beable to help me in private |
| 02:21.53 | Qwell | puzzled: be prepared to wait a while |
| 02:22.00 | puzzled | Qwell: indeed :) |
| 02:22.04 | file | no sales people alive in here |
| 02:22.06 | Qwell | Maveric: call them on Monday |
| 02:22.25 | xheliox | sales goons are off doing their crack and screwing whores. it's a Friday night, after all. |
| 02:22.46 | Maveric | qwell was going to but figured i might someone in here to help me |
| 02:22.53 | DocHolliday | [TK]D-Fender, doubtful the office place wants 500 to install POTS |
| 02:22.59 | Qwell | Maveric: depends on the question |
| 02:23.02 | Maveric | file you mind if i msg you |
| 02:23.15 | puzzled | xheliox: gotto haul in those proposect. dirty job but someone's gotto do it |
| 02:23.21 | file | Maveric: depends... |
| 02:23.23 | Maveric | true enough but its not something i can really just discuss in the channel |
| 02:23.54 | puzzled | ooooh, Maveric has the hots for file |
| 02:24.12 | Maveric | file do you work for digium? |
| 02:24.17 | Maveric | heh puzzled |
| 02:24.21 | Qwell | Maveric: several of us do.. /whois |
| 02:24.29 | Maveric | actually i have the hots for bkw ;) |
| 02:24.45 | file | but we aren't in sales or support |
| 02:24.52 | file | the ones that are active right now... at least :D |
| 02:25.04 | puzzled | which means you will get an honest answer :) |
| 02:25.05 | Maveric | well what exactly do you do for digium? |
| 02:25.34 | file | work on Asterisk |
| 02:25.38 | bkruse_home | file is our mascott |
| 02:26.03 | DocHolliday | qwell, can you tell me if the cisco 7941 is supported on asterisk? |
| 02:26.05 | Maveric | then most likely you wouldn't know the answer to this question |
| 02:26.09 | Qwell | DocHolliday: is it SIP? |
| 02:26.13 | Maveric | but i will ask you in private |
| 02:26.15 | DocHolliday | yes |
| 02:26.18 | Maveric | if you are ok with that |
| 02:26.19 | Qwell | then yes |
| 02:26.24 | file | Maveric: go ahead |
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| 02:26.58 | lirakis | dang gaim can do all kinds of protocols.. irc included! |
| 02:27.12 | puzzled | DocHolliday: I have a 7961 one here, factory default with sccp which works fine with chan_sccp. Ok fine except for the biweekly lockup |
| 02:27.43 | DocHolliday | puzzled, haha you loaded SIP firmware on right? |
| 02:28.01 | puzzled | nope, factory default skinny (sccp) |
| 02:28.07 | puzzled | version is 3<something> |
| 02:28.15 | DocHolliday | if you are using asterisk why not load SIP? |
| 02:28.45 | puzzled | because I haven't found a nice doc howto upgrade it. all the stuff on voip-info.org is for 7940/7960 and that does not work for 7941/7961 |
| 02:29.47 | DocHolliday | heh, fair enough.. thats kind of sucks |
| 02:29.56 | DocHolliday | Maveric, what made you buy 60s instead of 61s? |
| 02:29.58 | Qwell | puzzled: send me one, I'll write you a howto |
| 02:29.59 | puzzled | Maveric: afaik you get better support in Asterisk with the Polycoms |
| 02:30.49 | perd | anyone know of a free test faxing service i can use to verify my setup? |
| 02:30.49 | puzzled | Qwell: get me stateful failover in 1.4 and I'll think about it |
| 02:31.22 | Maveric | We already have 22 7960's in the office |
| 02:31.22 | perd | oh god maveric |
| 02:31.22 | perd | you fucked uuuuup |
| 02:31.38 | lirakis | perd: http://freefax.1888usa.com/ |
| 02:31.49 | perd | thank you sir |
| 02:31.51 | perd | � Maveric/#asterisk just submitted a PO for 10 more 7960's |
| 02:31.51 | perd | <DocHolliday> heh, fair enough.. thats kind of sucks |
| 02:31.51 | perd | <DocHolliday> Maveric, what made you buy 60s instead of 61s? |
| 02:31.57 | perd | err oops |
| 02:32.29 | Qwell | I need to trade my 7960 for a 7961, heh |
| 02:32.34 | DocHolliday | perd, i was trying to figure out what question you were answering :) |
| 02:32.47 | DocHolliday | when you do let me know if its compatible with astersk :) |
| 02:32.59 | puzzled | Qwell: why not trade it for a 640 or whatever the Poly model is? |
| 02:33.10 | perd | haha |
| 02:33.12 | Maveric | i am not really familiar with 61s |
| 02:33.17 | Maveric | what is the difference? |
| 02:33.22 | Qwell | puzzled: because polycom doesn't do skinny |
| 02:33.23 | puzzled | well, they suck less than the 60ds |
| 02:33.27 | Qwell | Maveric: lit line keys |
| 02:33.37 | Qwell | and backlight I think |
| 02:33.41 | Maveric | lol |
| 02:33.43 | puzzled | nah |
| 02:33.46 | puzzled | no backlit |
| 02:33.51 | puzzled | cheap bastards |
| 02:33.52 | Qwell | and 802.af poe, or whatever |
| 02:34.12 | Qwell | I missed a number in there somewhere |
| 02:35.14 | file | 802.3af? |
| 02:35.15 | file | perhaps. |
| 02:35.16 | Qwell | yeah |
| 02:35.17 | Maveric | qwell we can do old crappy cisco proprietary PoE anyways |
| 02:35.28 | Maveric | so it isn't a big deal |
| 02:35.32 | Qwell | Maveric: mostly it's the lit line keys |
| 02:35.39 | Maveric | and to pay more for back lit keys |
| 02:35.43 | Qwell | more obvious hints status |
| 02:35.59 | Maveric | next time we go to buy more |
| 02:36.03 | Maveric | i'll look into them |
| 02:36.20 | DocHolliday | qwell, it maybe 120 bucks more but i have a problem paying for 5 year old gear :) |
| 02:36.34 | Qwell | it's not that much more |
| 02:36.58 | DocHolliday | how much are you paying for em? |
| 02:37.08 | Qwell | dunno, I don't have one |
| 02:37.45 | Qwell | I'd be happy to trade my 7960 for one :P |
| 02:38.18 | DocHolliday | i |
| 02:38.26 | DocHolliday | i'd be happy to trade my 40 for a 41 |
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| 03:14.10 | DocHolliday | does anyone recommend a specific T.38 compliant ATA? |
| 03:14.49 | Maveric | i'm not sure how well fax works of T.38 |
| 03:14.56 | Maveric | but fax + voip is a headache |
| 03:15.08 | Maveric | at least back when i was trying to deal with it |
| 03:15.49 | DocHolliday | Maveric, i have to say i atleast tried |
| 03:16.01 | Maveric | all the timing gets messed up and it gets out of sync in the middle of a fax and it dies. i know T.38 is suppose to do better |
| 03:16.23 | Maveric | i was starting to work on T.38 but that is back when T.38 asterisk support was scarce |
| 03:16.35 | Maveric | so i stopped |
| 03:16.46 | Maveric | ordered pots line |
| 03:16.51 | Maveric | and was done with it |
| 03:16.53 | Maveric | lol |
| 03:16.55 | DocHolliday | Maveric, any chance you want to 'start' again :) |
| 03:17.04 | Maveric | not really |
| 03:17.17 | DocHolliday | yeah.. the major problem is that i'm in shared office space and they charge huge fees for POTS |
| 03:17.21 | Maveric | when you have bosses in your office that are trying to fax contracts and etc |
| 03:17.35 | Maveric | and it keeps messing up |
| 03:17.44 | DocHolliday | hah |
| 03:17.51 | Maveric | you don't want your nuts on the chopping block so to speak |
| 03:18.12 | DocHolliday | naw i like my nuts as they are |
| 03:18.31 | Maveric | i'm not saying it isn't worth the try |
| 03:18.47 | Maveric | i am just merely saying that it was a headache |
| 03:18.50 | DocHolliday | put it this way, worst case scenario i'm out the cost of an ATA |
| 03:18.54 | DocHolliday | sure |
| 03:19.08 | Maveric | and i'm not sure how well T.38 allievates the problem but it is definately the best solution of choice |
| 03:19.37 | DocHolliday | agreed! the next problem is i dont want to be with 3 different providers heh |
| 03:20.05 | DocHolliday | (1 provider for inbound, second provider for outbound/ LD, + T.38 provider) |
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| 04:52.52 | sevard | anyone know python? |
| 04:52.52 | mmlj4 | i know how to indent code |
| 04:52.52 | Qwell | I know how to use {} and ; |
| 04:52.53 | Faithful | anyone messed with ChanSkype? |
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| 04:52.53 | sevard | heh |
| 04:52.53 | sevard | wtf is the python equivilent of perl's 'die' or bash's exit... |
| 04:52.53 | bkruse_home | system("killall -9 python") :X |
| 04:52.54 | sevard | nice |
| 04:52.54 | bkruse_home | :P |
| 04:52.54 | Qwell | ~lart bkruse_home |
| 04:52.54 | sevard | heh |
| 04:52.54 | bkruse_home | jk, seriously, dont do it |
| 04:52.54 | bkruse_home | NO! |
| 04:52.54 | Qwell | wtf |
| 04:52.54 | bkruse_home | Qwell: did u kill jbot again? |
| 04:52.55 | sevard | NO HE SAID RM -RF |
| 04:52.55 | bkruse_home | omg. |
| 04:52.55 | bkruse_home | way to go jbot |
| 04:52.55 | Qwell | Are you like immune to larting or something? |
| 04:52.55 | sevard | boners |
| 04:52.55 | Qwell | That only happens when I try to ~lart you :P |
| 04:52.56 | sevard | like totally? |
| 04:52.56 | bkruse_home | hehehehe |
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| 04:52.56 | bkruse_home | ~lart Qwell |
| 04:52.56 | sevard | qwell turned into a fucking valleygirl |
| 04:52.57 | bkruse_home | or Qwell killed jbot, one of the two |
| 04:52.57 | sevard | noooo GHT! |
| 04:52.57 | sevard | honestly, if you drink a light beer you deserve to taste urine |
| 04:52.57 | Nugget | heh |
| 04:52.58 | bkruse_home | i prefer kool-aid |
| 04:52.58 | Qwell | kool-aid lite |
| 04:52.58 | sevard | kool-aid and fermented cow piss == "lite" beer |
| 04:52.58 | Nugget | my license to lart has been temporarily revoked. |
| 04:52.58 | sevard | you have half of the formula |
| 04:52.58 | sevard | Nugget: by the great bigg BOFH in the sky? |
| 04:52.59 | file | poor jbot |
| 04:52.59 | Nugget | by the department of transportation. |
| 04:52.59 | file | jbot: status |
| 04:53.01 | jbot | Since Thu Feb 15 17:43:33 2007, there have been 21 modifications, 301 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 249 commands. I have been awake for 1d 11h 9m 26s this session, and currently reference 112540 factoids. I'm using about 19644 kB of memory. With 1 active fork. Process time user/system 5735.67/432.84 child 0.04/0.01 |
| 04:53.02 | Nugget | I got a new car and I can't put my BOFH plates on it until the paperwork clears. |
| 04:53.02 | sevard | DOT controls LARTing? |
| 04:53.02 | Qwell | How much electricity does an LED use? |
| 04:53.02 | sevard | 5 drops |
| 04:53.03 | Nugget | less than you just used asking that question. |
| 04:53.03 | Qwell | Nugget: what if I have nearly 100 on? |
| 04:53.03 | sevard | 10 drops |
| 04:53.03 | sevard | don't you know math? idiot. |
| 04:53.04 | DocHolliday | Qwell, whats the best T.38 ATA? |
| 04:53.04 | Frogzoo | Qwell: ah, depends on the led |
| 04:53.05 | Qwell | dunno |
| 04:53.05 | DocHolliday | qwell, what do you know? :) |
| 04:53.05 | Qwell | nothing at all |
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| 04:58.59 | McGruber | hello? |
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| 04:59.01 | McGruber | is anyone active? |
| 04:59.01 | Qwell | sure |
| 04:59.02 | McGruber | If I were a Newb (that had gotten asterisk working already) and had questions about asterisk, would this be the place to come? |
| 04:59.03 | Qwell | Please don't ask theoretical questions. :) |
| 04:59.03 | Qwell | but yes |
| 04:59.03 | sevard | No, this is the place where you get flamed for being a noob. You're thinking of "#bofh" |
| 04:59.04 | brookshire | McGruber: ask away? |
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| 04:59.05 | McGruber | I am asking on asteriskNOW channel, I thought it might be more appropriate... |
| 04:59.10 | sevard | so... are you going to ask.. or sit and spin your wheels |
| 04:59.12 | McGruber | ok, I guess I can ask on this channel too |
| 04:59.12 | sevard | holy christ. |
| 04:59.13 | sevard | everyone that can answer your question has died and gone to heaven by now |
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| 04:59.15 | McGruber | I am trying to test outbound calls to 1-800 numbers using FWD. Am I going to have to change .conf files manually or will FWD work correctly using just the GUI configuration? |
| 04:59.15 | sevard | Most, if not all, supporters of asterisk in this channel do not use nor support GUIs. |
| 04:59.15 | sevard | So, by those standards, manual configuration of files will be necessary. |
| 04:59.16 | sevard | We, and by we I mean I, would suggest reading "the book" |
| 04:59.17 | McGruber | "the book"? |
| 04:59.17 | sevard | ~thebook |
| 04:59.51 | jbot | from memory, thebook is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11 |
| 04:59.51 | Qwell | bot died |
| 05:01.02 | sevard | bot dead. |
| 05:01.04 | brookshire | hi |
| 05:01.04 | Qwell | brookshire: fix jbot |
| 05:01.05 | brookshire | bigger probs :( |
| 05:01.05 | Qwell | suck |
| 05:01.05 | sevard | laptop died |
| 05:01.05 | sevard | back |
| 05:01.07 | sevard | from memory, thebook is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony, released under a Creative Commons license and available at http://www.asteriskdocs.org << Read the book online! |
| 05:01.07 | sevard | circa 20060401 |
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| 05:01.08 | McGruber | reading, thanks |
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| 05:01.11 | ez` | i would like be able to listen any sip/iax call ; like zapbarge ; what the commande to do it please ... ? |
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| 05:53.24 | genz | If there's a command that's not in AGI, how could I have it executed from a webserver? |
| 05:53.24 | genz | (I'm trying to call ControlPlayback from a php-file on the server) |
| 05:53.25 | Qwell | how are you gonna play audio from php? |
| 05:53.26 | Qwell | HA |
| 05:53.26 | genz | Well the PHP is just telling the asterisk server, play this .wav file you have to this extension. |
| 05:53.27 | genz | Make sense? |
| 05:54.12 | genz | It seems like it should be possible, it should be easier than the Click2Call methods. |
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| 06:17.13 | imgenz | Any experience/success with ControlPlayback? |
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| 06:18.38 | putzz | heh |
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| 06:33.30 | FuriousGeorge | hey all. can i register => blah:blah@blah.com/EXTENSION? |
| 06:33.36 | FuriousGeorge | extension being the specific part |
| 06:33.45 | FuriousGeorge | in iax.conf |
| 06:33.50 | FuriousGeorge | i know you can do it in sip.conf |
| 06:34.35 | FuriousGeorge | i got two DiD from the same provider, so setting context= in my user section isnt going to do it |
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| 08:04.40 | AJaymn | FuriousGeorge what provider? |
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| 08:04.40 | FuriousGeorge | AJaymn: one of them mom and pop setups |
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| 08:04.43 | fetcher | FuriousGeorge: why not dump them both into the same context, then use called-number ID to decide on call routing? |
| 08:04.43 | fetcher | FuriousGeorge: check whether ${CALLERID(dnis)} contains something useful |
| 08:04.44 | JT | that wouldn't be the called number would it |
| 08:04.45 | FuriousGeorge | i need a solution thats gonna work with zap too |
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| 08:04.46 | fetcher | JT: is it (rdnis) ? |
| 08:04.46 | JT | not as far as i'm aware |
| 08:04.46 | JT | on digital zap channels it's ${EXTEN} |
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| 08:04.47 | JT | callerid is all about the callER not the callED |
| 08:04.47 | FuriousGeorge | http://voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+func+callerid doesnt help |
| 08:04.47 | JT | ..,.. ${EXTEN} |
| 08:04.47 | fetcher | JT: I thought maybe FuriousGeorge's provider wasn't setting ${EXTEN} separtely for the two DIDs |
| 08:04.48 | JT | shrug, check sip debug to see what the provider sends |
| 08:04.48 | FuriousGeorge | no, my point is, in the user section of iax.conf i can specify a context, but if i have two dids i would have to differentiate the context somewhere else. i know in sip.conf you can specify a context and exten with the register=>, but you can't afaik in iax.conf |
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| 08:04.48 | FuriousGeorge | correct me if im wrong, but i should just exten => 8665551212,1,blah |
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| 08:05.27 | FuriousGeorge | let me try that with my existing did |
| 08:05.27 | fetcher | FuriousGeorge: I'd make a new context that has only the two DID numbers in it as extensions, then have each one Goto() another context as appropriate |
| 08:05.27 | fetcher | a bit kludgely, but it should work ok |
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| 08:05.28 | livinded | should asterisk be starting up 28 processes? |
| 08:05.28 | livinded | I haven't used it since version 1.2.x but I don't ever remember it doing that |
| 08:05.28 | [TK]D-Fender | livinded : Depends on your OS, but in many cases it may appear that way. Thi however is just the many seperate threads that some systems summarize together. |
| 08:05.28 | [TK]D-Fender | livinded : Very noticable with Slackware for instance |
| 08:05.28 | livinded | [TK]D-Fender: alright |
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| 08:05.28 | livinded | i'm running slack 11.0 |
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| 08:05.29 | [TK]D-Fender | livinded : Excellect choice. rock solid and "just works" |
| 08:05.29 | livinded | ya, i've been running slackware since 8.0 |
| 08:05.29 | livinded | or maybe it was 8.1, but by far my first choice in a server environment |
| 08:05.29 | tzafrir_laptop | livinded, those are threads. From their size you can see that they share the same memory space |
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| 08:05.29 | livinded | ugh, something went wrong when I built zaptel |
| 08:05.29 | tzafrir_laptop | BTW: I expect kernel 2.6 to work better with asterisk: preemption and such are useful to an application such as Asterisk that handles soft-realtime |
| 08:05.29 | tzafrir_laptop | regarding zaptel: I saw a number of reports about it, haven't yet got the time to debug it |
| 08:05.29 | tzafrir_laptop | What error do you get? something with zttranscode? |
| 08:05.30 | livinded | i can load zaptel but not ztdummy |
| 08:05.30 | tzafrir_laptop | what error do you get? |
| 08:05.30 | livinded | http://pastebin.ca/360114 |
| 08:05.30 | livinded | dmesg and syslog tell me nothing unfortunatly |
| 08:05.30 | livinded | not sure why usb would be causing any issues though |
| 08:05.30 | tzafrir_laptop | ztdummy on kernel 2.4 doesn't have a good timing source |
| 08:05.30 | livinded | doesn't 2.4 have rtc? |
| 08:05.31 | tzafrir_laptop | So it has a hack of using the timing from a UHCI USB controller |
| 08:05.31 | FuriousGeorge | gotta use usb |
| 08:05.31 | tzafrir_laptop | If your controller is OHCI, it won't work |
| 08:05.31 | livinded | ah, so I probably need to go install some usb libs then |
| 08:05.31 | livinded | I'm fairly sure i deselected them during the install |
| 08:05.32 | tzafrir_laptop | unrelated to userspace USB libs |
| 08:05.32 | FuriousGeorge | just a kernel module |
| 08:05.32 | FuriousGeorge | usb_uhci or something |
| 08:05.32 | FuriousGeorge | lsmod |
| 08:05.32 | tzafrir_laptop | actually uhci-hcd is there |
| 08:05.33 | tzafrir_laptop | what USB controller do you have? |
| 08:05.33 | FuriousGeorge | if u dont know, what chipset mb do you have |
| 08:05.33 | livinded | which procfile will tell me |
| 08:05.33 | tzafrir_laptop | grep hcd /proc/interrupts |
| 08:05.33 | FuriousGeorge | lspci |
| 08:06.13 | tzafrir_laptop | lspci si better, mine was a shortcut in case it is already loaded |
| 08:06.14 | livinded | oh, i know whats wrong |
| 08:06.14 | FuriousGeorge | a mouse has made a nest in your case? |
| 08:06.14 | FuriousGeorge | ;) |
| 08:06.14 | livinded | I'm running this is virtualization, it can't usb |
| 08:06.14 | FuriousGeorge | there ya go |
| 08:06.14 | tzafrir_laptop | can you switch to kernel 2.6? |
| 08:06.14 | livinded | I'll need to install 2.6 |
| 08:06.15 | livinded | tzafrir_laptop: ya, i'll do that tomarrow, it should fix everything up |
| 08:06.15 | tzafrir_laptop | livinded, for now you can test everything that does not require zaptel |
| 08:06.15 | livinded | tzafrir_laptop: meetme is the main feature I'm using |
| 08:06.15 | livinded | i need ztdummy |
| 08:06.15 | JT | lol |
| 08:06.15 | JT | trying to make life hard for yourself ;) |
| 08:06.15 | FuriousGeorge | heh |
| 08:06.16 | livinded | JT: of course |
| 08:06.16 | fetcher | is rtc timing reasonably stable for ztdummy (2.6 kernel) ? |
| 08:06.16 | livinded | I need to stress test it tomarrow and see how meetme runs virtualized, see how many ulaw connections it can handle |
| 08:06.16 | tzafrir_laptop | get a kernel >= 2.6.15, so you could use RTC and not depend on HZ=1000 |
| 08:06.17 | livinded | I'll just install the default slackware 2.6huge, i'm too lazy to go build a custom kernel for this box since it's just for testing |
| 08:06.17 | fetcher | 2.6.17.13 here ... having bad luck so far with Meetme, though |
| 08:06.17 | tzafrir_laptop | reasonably stable. But I'm not sure exactly how well it work. I saw mixed reports |
| 08:06.17 | livinded | I never had issues with rtc when I used it |
| 08:06.17 | tzafrir_laptop | How does app_conference compare? |
| 08:06.17 | livinded | tzafrir_laptop: from what i hear app_conference is a lot lighter weight than meetme |
| 08:06.17 | tzafrir_laptop | by requirements or features? |
| 08:06.18 | livinded | requirements |
| 08:06.18 | tzafrir_laptop | it doesn't require zaptel. Any other difference? |
| 08:06.18 | livinded | My friend used it becuase he was having issues with meetme and seemed to like it |
| 08:06.18 | livinded | tzafrir_laptop: I'm not sure, I haven't actually set it up or configured it myself |
| 08:06.18 | JT | if anyone has much knowledge or experience with sms/other mobile services using open source software, let me know |
| 08:06.18 | livinded | JT: that's the other feature I plan on using with asterisk |
| 08:06.18 | livinded | at least for this implementation |
| 08:06.19 | JT | what features? i don't think it has much there :P |
| 08:06.19 | livinded | asterisk comes with a jabber client now? |
| 08:06.19 | brookshire | the jabber voip protocol |
| 08:06.19 | livinded | oh |
| 08:06.19 | brookshire | and yes, i believe asterisk can show up on a buddylist |
| 08:06.20 | fetcher | nice, Gentoo has app_conference in portage |
| 08:10.11 | tzafrir_laptop | but can you send it text messages? |
| 08:10.27 | tzafrir_laptop | you can. But will it do anything sensible with them? |
| 08:11.13 | JT | hrm |
| 08:11.16 | JT | tzafrir_laptop: sms? |
| 08:12.06 | tzafrir_laptop | There are SIP phones capable of text messages |
| 08:12.34 | tzafrir_laptop | There is some RFC for that, IIRC |
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| 08:13.09 | kanaeda | hi friends, i cannot find what is the difference between 1.2 and 1.4 |
| 08:13.20 | coppice | .2 |
| 08:13.36 | kanaeda | 1.2.15 and 1.4.0 |
| 08:14.02 | [TK]D-Fender | 2.85 ? |
| 08:14.19 | [TK]D-Fender | er.... 0.1.85 ? |
| 08:14.57 | coppice | ah, a man that does maths like an early pentium |
| 08:16.05 | tzafrir_laptop | kanaeda, too many to count... ; svn diff http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/tags/1.2.15 http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.4 |
| 08:16.13 | tzafrir_laptop | (no, don't run this...) |
| 08:16.23 | kanaeda | any compelling reason to use 1.4? |
| 08:16.32 | coppice | well, too many for [TK]D-Fender to count :-) |
| 08:17.01 | tzafrir_laptop | if you really need one of the new features there and can't wait, or will be eventually deploying it lter |
| 08:22.03 | JT | tzafrir_laptop: not interested in sms on sip, only linking to mobile phones with sms etc |
| 08:22.35 | tzafrir_laptop | there are nomerous ways to send SMS from Asterisk. |
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| 08:22.48 | kanaeda | interesting |
| 08:22.59 | tzafrir_laptop | But then the question remains: how can I get that text from the message into a dialplan variable? |
| 08:23.24 | tzafrir_laptop | (numerous, but no real standard interface for all of them, BTW) |
| 08:27.20 | JT | tzafrir_laptop: it just doesn't look like asterisk as all aligned with being an sms content provider |
| 08:27.41 | kanaeda | thats a shame |
| 08:27.48 | tzafrir_laptop | I guess nobody really tried |
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| 08:28.44 | JT | it's very media oriented |
| 08:28.54 | tzafrir_laptop | Or nobody needed a generic method. Everyone has a way that Just Works for the local setup |
| 08:29.06 | JT | tzafrir_laptop: hear of kannel? |
| 08:30.23 | tzafrir_laptop | I saw the name mentioned. What is it? |
| 08:31.01 | JT | open source sms/wap gateway |
| 08:31.12 | JT | www.kannel.org |
| 08:31.17 | JT | reading the documentation now |
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| 09:22.59 | coppice | kannel is junk |
| 09:22.59 | tzafrir_laptop | What's wrong with it? |
| 09:22.59 | coppice | its completely crappy code that was abandoned when the company behind it went bust |
| 09:22.59 | JT | coppice: umm so what's the alternative? |
| 09:22.59 | coppice | "alternative" suggests kannel is an option in the first place. there isn't really a usable open platform |
| 09:22.59 | tzafrir_laptop | well, it is just one option. There are also SMS-capable devices (and SMS-capable PSTN providers) |
| 09:22.59 | JT | why is it so bad? |
| 09:23.00 | coppice | kannel is quite old. back then I had to implement by own platform for mass SMS. I should have opened the one I built. now its at the bit rotten stage :-) |
| 09:23.00 | JT | yeah well sms is old too :P |
| 09:23.00 | brookshire | ss7 is the key to sms :) |
| 09:23.00 | coppice | not really. if SS7 was the key to SMS, protocols like SMPP would not have been developed |
| 09:23.01 | JT | not really suitable for mass sms |
| 09:23.01 | brookshire | isdn? |
| 09:23.01 | tzafrir_laptop | no. POTS |
| 09:23.01 | JT | brookshire: you can get them on analogue |
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| 09:23.01 | coppice | I have an analogue SMS phone beside me that even supports Chinese |
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| 09:23.02 | coppice | I built an SMPP centred platform, with a number of interfaces to it. That's what I should have opened up. |
| 09:23.02 | coppice | Logica have an open SMS platform in Java, but people who have tried to use it seem to have tossed it away |
| 09:23.02 | JT | coppice: so what's the best solution right now? |
| 09:23.03 | coppice | no idea :-) |
| 09:23.03 | JT | don't discourage me damnit :P |
| 09:23.04 | JT | coppice: so kannel is not nice, but it can send and receive SMSes, right? :) |
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| 09:23.04 | Fr0zen_ | does anyone here use a Cisco 79x1 ip phone? |
| 09:23.05 | coppice | if the wind is in the right direction, then with luck and lots of manual intervention it might |
| 09:23.05 | Fr0zen_ | with SIP |
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| 11:29.38 | kanaeda | help |
| 11:29.38 | kanaeda | configure: error: *** termcap support not found |
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| 11:29.38 | suma | how can i find which ISDN line is plugged into the E400P card ? |
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| 11:29.41 | tzafrir_laptop | kanaeda, what distro? |
| 11:29.42 | kanaeda | i got it working :D |
| 11:29.42 | kanaeda | Fedora 4 |
| 11:29.42 | kanaeda | well, its installed now |
| 11:29.42 | kanaeda | should i run make samples? |
| 11:29.42 | suma | i'm acessing server remotely, how can i find which ISDN line is plugged into the E400P card ? please help |
| 11:29.42 | suma | i mean which port in the E400P card is active ! |
| 11:29.43 | coppice | if only one port is connected to anything, only that port will not show a red alarm. look in /proc/zaptel/* |
| 11:29.44 | kanaeda | wat does make samples do? |
| 11:29.44 | coppice | fill a glass jar with urine? :-\ |
| 11:29.44 | kanaeda | hmm i need to get a service provider |
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| 11:33.55 | littleball | which package include the driver for the FXO like x100p ? |
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| 11:54.24 | kanaeda | does anyone recommend a service provider? |
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| 12:27.40 | Makenshi | good/bad/sip/iax/in/out/...? |
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| 12:42.22 | Giofe | hi |
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| 12:56.38 | coppice | E400P is the E1 version of the Tormenta 2 card |
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| 13:07.22 | endre | ~ask |
| 13:08.02 | jbot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. |
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| 13:20.49 | k84 | How can i call out via another "peer" if my peer is allready in used, e.g busy. |
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| 13:21.01 | k84 | For instance having two betaMax accounts. |
| 13:23.28 | k84 | first i want it to try the preffered account, if it fails it should call via another peer./account |
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| 15:02.27 | mafkees | how do i enable hints in ael2 ? |
| 15:02.29 | mafkees | I looked at the samples |
| 15:02.29 | mafkees | but dont understand it |
| 15:02.29 | mafkees | on incoming calls I have this line: |
| 15:02.30 | mafkees | Dial(Skinny/6000@office&Skinny/6001@livingroom&SIP/ibook|30); |
| 15:02.30 | mafkees | and in my internal context: |
| 15:02.30 | mafkees | _600X => { |
| 15:02.30 | mafkees | Dial(Skinny/${EXTEN}@office); |
| 15:02.30 | mafkees | }; |
| 15:02.30 | mafkees | I cant figure out how to do the hint stuff |
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| 15:02.32 | sford_ | hi! can anyone recommend an isdn simulator that I could buy to test an asterisk install (with E1/T1 cards). |
| 15:02.32 | puzzled | sford_: those are expensive. the simplest ones can be found on eBay. Usually as part of a Cisco CCNA/CCNP lab setup |
| 15:02.33 | puzzled | but those are BRI models, not PRI |
| 15:02.33 | sford_ | what about this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ISDN-Simulator-Emutel-Max-15xBRI-2-PRI-Ports_W0QQitemZ230092224454QQihZ013QQcategoryZ51268QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 15:02.33 | puzzled | current bid is cheap butI don't know what it will go for |
| 15:02.34 | sford_ | puzzled: I'm new to simulators, but end-to-end calls is a possibility right? |
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| 15:02.35 | puzzled | sford_: yes |
| 15:02.35 | sford_ | puzzled: thanks for your help, I'll try my luck on ebay! |
| 15:02.35 | puzzled | ok, have fin |
| 15:02.35 | puzzled | fun even |
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| 15:11.53 | mafkees | failed to extend from 80 to 159 |
| 15:11.57 | mafkees | what is that ? |
| 15:12.05 | mafkees | I get that when I do: queue show |
| 15:16.56 | mafkees | I find that message in utils.c |
| 15:17.10 | mafkees | hhmm |
| 15:17.36 | mafkees | anyone ? |
| 15:20.17 | brussel | Are there any firewall/routers/nat32 devices that are recommended for ensuring the asterisk related communications get first priority? |
| 15:20.44 | mafkees | http://pastebin.three-dimensional.net/index.php?action=view&id=59a1f4e9 |
| 15:20.46 | mafkees | wtf is that ? |
| 15:20.59 | mafkees | it looks like there's something really wrong with the queues |
| 15:21.46 | mafkees | this is my queues.conf: |
| 15:21.47 | mafkees | http://pastebin.three-dimensional.net/index.php?action=view&id=35ed8b3e |
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| 15:29.15 | megasquid | anyone know anything about send sms messages from a gateway? |
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| 16:48.00 | Maveric | brussel you can use a linux router with openwrt and QoS |
| 16:48.01 | robin_sz | meep? |
| 16:48.02 | brussel | maveric: I have no idea |
| 16:48.02 | Maveric | you have no idea what? |
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| 16:48.04 | brussel | maveric: i have no idea what you are asking, if it's a request for help or an answer to my question. |
| 16:48.04 | Maveric | its an answer to your question |
| 16:48.04 | brussel | maveric: I was hoping to buy a router, not put together a linux router, and have it all set up for asterisk. I'm not good enough to play with QoS and openwrt. That's beyond me. |
| 16:48.04 | Maveric | openwrt works on a lot of different hardware routers |
| 16:48.04 | Maveric | and is linux based |
| 16:48.05 | Maveric | http://openwrt.org/ |
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| 16:48.05 | brussel | maveric: i googled and read that already. It looks far too complicated. I was hoping to buy a firewall friendly to asterisk traffic. |
| 16:48.06 | brussel | maveric: especially because it's for a friend who thinks he needs it but has no clue about anything. |
| 16:48.06 | Maveric | it really isn't that complicated |
| 16:48.06 | Maveric | but if that is what you are looking for some routers have QoS like functions to prioritize traffic |
| 16:48.06 | Maveric | but i don't know how well they work |
| 16:48.07 | brussel | maveric: this guy can't even set up his existing firewall to direct ports to the proper machine and i live about 70 miles from him. I don't tell him this to his face but he's a fricken idiot. |
| 16:48.07 | Maveric | and what exactly you can do with them |
| 16:48.07 | brussel | maveric, i can get this request off my back if i just point him to a firewall that's suppose to be good that all he has to do is buy. he'll have too much pride to say he never tweaked it... |
| 16:48.08 | brussel | maveric: i'll google for some routers that have openwrt capabilities. |
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| 17:55.48 | wunderkin | dd-wrt has a web based config, i've been using it for a little while... i had to get a new router for it... when my roommate downloads shitloads of whatever it is all day, sometimes i have to reset it a couple times a day... otherwise it works ok... maybe the way its setting the qos or something or the router itself... my port has the highest priority next to my phone and i cant even get to the web server on it when that happens |
| 17:55.49 | wunderkin | but it says the cpu load is almost nothing then too |
| 17:56.21 | Makenshi | My router has only one phy.. uses .1Q.. works nicely |
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| 18:56.21 | battini | is there a way to make waitExten() wait for more than 4 digits? |
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| 18:56.32 | paceit00 | battini: IMHO, it depends on your dialplan |
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| 21:35.32 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX -=- Asterisk 1.2.15 and Zaptel 1.2.13 released! (Feb. 9, 2007) -=- Other fun channels: #asterisk-gui, #asterisknow, #asterisk-commits -=- Join #freepbx for freepbx/trixbox support. -=- |
| 21:35.37 | [TK]D-Fender | YAY! |
| 21:35.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ~lart jbot |
| 21:35.44 | robin_sz | ruied, is speech clipped? ie is the rxgain too high? |
| 21:35.57 | [TK]D-Fender | :O |
| 21:36.04 | robin_sz | an international metric inch! |
| 21:40.06 | robin_sz | weirdly, there have been other definitions .. USA and Canada had different definitions of a metric inch at one point |
| 21:40.46 | Bobthehunter | passing some expertrating tests ;) |
| 21:40.49 | Bobthehunter | first one +20% |
| 21:40.51 | Bobthehunter | avg |
| 21:41.07 | Bobthehunter | 40 minute to do took 4.5 minutes |
| 21:41.31 | robin_sz | there are now only 3 nations left to go metric ... Liberia |
| 21:41.42 | robin_sz | Myanmar .. thats Burma to you |
| 21:41.53 | xx8xx | [TK]D-Fender : whats the command to copy the entire file content using nano ? |
| 21:42.01 | robin_sz | and somewhere called "the USA" ... wherever the fuck that is |
| 21:42.19 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx : use "cat" and scrol to grab, or whatever. |
| 21:42.26 | xx8xx | aha ok |
| 21:43.15 | ruied | speech not clipped, rxgain is fine... I've already configured it... it is in the midle (ztmonitor). I'm calling from a fxs phone to a fxo line, they both are in the same digium card... is the rxgain and txgain setted for all fxo and fxs interfaces? |
| 21:44.27 | ruied | or, can I configure rx and tx gain for each one fxo/fxs line? |
| 21:44.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied : Depends how you set it up. How about SHOWING us your configs... |
| 21:46.31 | ruied | [TK]D-Fender, where can I past the confs? |
| 21:46.44 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 21:46.46 | jbot | rumour has it, pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 21:53.08 | JT | robin_sz: now now, don't act as if the uk are leaders in metric adoption :P |
| 21:54.12 | file | Qwell: . |
| 21:54.16 | Qwell | ~thwap file |
| 21:54.18 | jbot | ACTION thwaps file on the nose with a 2 by 4 |
| 21:54.23 | Qwell | good bot |
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| 21:54.38 | file | :( |
| 21:54.45 | [TK]D-Fender | jbot : c'mere rover! |
| 21:54.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ~areyouadog |
| 21:54.57 | jbot | bark bark! |
| 21:55.32 | Opperior | That's humiliating. Bots are people too! |
| 21:56.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Opperior : Tell hell with you.. and Carl Sagan, and Isaac Asimov and.... ! |
| 21:56.43 | Qwell | UGH |
| 21:56.45 | Qwell | stupid t-mobile |
| 21:57.08 | Bobthehunter | http://www.expertrating.com/certifications/Words-and-Phrases-Test.asp |
| 21:57.16 | Bobthehunter | thinks anyone doing businees needs to apss this |
| 21:57.22 | Bobthehunter | to much outsourcing crap out there |
| 21:57.26 | file | Qwell: what's the matter |
| 21:57.38 | Qwell | they switched to "For English, say English" |
| 21:57.44 | Qwell | no DTMF fallback |
| 21:58.39 | Opperior | ugh, I hate that. You end up feeling like an idiot yelling the same thing over and over into the phone |
| 21:58.56 | Opperior | "I'm sorry, I didn't understand that" |
| 22:00.09 | xx8xx | [TK]D-Fender : ok here are the 3 files sorry for the delay |
| 22:00.09 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361014 |
| 22:00.09 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361019 |
| 22:00.09 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361025 |
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| 22:02.03 | xx8xx | [TK]D-Fender : r u there ? |
| 22:02.46 | ruied | robin_sz, [TK]D-Fender - http://pastebin.ca/361026 |
| 22:03.12 | n|cotine | Does autologoff in agents.conf not work for agents added with AddQueueMember ? |
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| 22:04.35 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx : do "restart gracefully" in * CLI and tun on SIP dubg again, and try again, pastbin the output. |
| 22:09.37 | xx8xx | ok here |
| 22:09.40 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361045 |
| 22:09.56 | ruied | I have a sip phone (grandstream gxp200) dialing to the fxs digium and the sound is really good, but if I dial from the fxs phone to the fxo pstn or the fxo gateway the sound is not good... |
| 22:10.25 | ruied | fxo gateway = fxo gsm gateway |
| 22:10.56 | ruied | going to try from sip to fxo pstn... |
| 22:11.47 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx : Its still looking in the [default] context and I can't say why.... |
| 22:12.36 | xx8xx | should I restart the phone ? |
| 22:13.55 | ruied | can I set rx and tx gains for each tdm400 interface ? |
| 22:14.53 | xx8xx | restarting the phone didn't help |
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| 22:19.20 | cervi | xx8xx: I don't know users.conf but maybe it helps, when you copy&pase the config to sip.conf? |
| 22:21.30 | xx8xx | nope |
| 22:21.51 | xx8xx | [TK]D-Fender : I tried a softphone and here is a different error I get in the clie |
| 22:21.52 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361081 |
| 22:21.57 | xx8xx | maybe that will help |
| 22:22.09 | xx8xx | it sais host trunk_2 does not exist |
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| 22:22.19 | xx8xx | but in users.conf I do have trun2 |
| 22:22.41 | ruied | rx and tx gains are fine for the fxs but when I check the fxo lines the rx and tx are very low, can I configure rx and tx gains for each interface? |
| 22:25.18 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx : Ok, this is not the AsteriskNOW support channel, now am I able to assist you any further with this. Sorry. |
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| 22:27.23 | xx8xx | ok here is what I got |
| 22:27.31 | xx8xx | I just setup a soft phone |
| 22:27.41 | xx8xx | using the soft phone I can dial out via our analog FXO ports |
| 22:27.54 | xx8xx | but I can't make outside calls via our T1 PRI ? |
| 22:28.01 | xx8xx | would that be something u could solve ? |
| 22:28.23 | cervi | xx8xx: Where can I see "macro-trunkdial"? |
| 22:28.42 | xx8xx | extentions.conf . |
| 22:28.45 | cervi | "SIP/trunk_2/4807296541" is wrong |
| 22:29.24 | xx8xx | why |
| 22:29.46 | cervi | if you want to go over T1, this is should be something else than "SIP" |
| 22:30.22 | xx8xx | like what |
| 22:30.52 | cervi | For me, I need "CAPI/..." |
| 22:31.01 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx : I can't support your GUI. Period. |
| 22:31.15 | xx8xx | I'm not using GUI |
| 22:31.22 | xx8xx | I'm doing all this with ssh now |
| 22:31.25 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx AsteriskNOW = GUI |
| 22:31.28 | xx8xx | I gave up on the GUI long ago |
| 22:31.45 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx : then fluch your entire config and start from scratch. |
| 22:31.55 | xx8xx | lol |
| 22:35.26 | [TK]D-Fender | xx8xx : USERS.CONF = MISTAKE. Flush all of your configs and do them right from the start, |
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| 22:36.31 | xx8xx | so the plain asterisk doesn't have users.conf ? |
| 22:36.37 | xx8xx | then where does it store user info ? |
| 22:36.37 | cervi | xx8xx: You told us, you have problems with T1, but in your extensions.conf you set "trunk_2 = SIP/trunk_2" |
| 22:37.00 | ruied | does anyone has a tdm400? I'm having problems with sound, fxs txgain and rxgain ok, fxo txgain and rxgain are very low... |
| 22:37.09 | cervi | xx8xx: Do you want "trunk_1 = Zap/g1"? |
| 22:37.35 | xx8xx | I dont have trunk 2 in extension ? |
| 22:37.50 | xx8xx | in the users.conf trunk_1 is the analog FXO ports |
| 22:37.58 | xx8xx | and trunk_2 is the t1 |
| 22:38.08 | cervi | no, it isn't |
| 22:38.09 | xx8xx | thats how I want it |
| 22:38.25 | cervi | no, look in your extensions.conf for "trunk_2" |
| 22:38.31 | xx8xx | ok wait |
| 22:39.11 | xx8xx | hum |
| 22:39.15 | xx8xx | I didn't set that up |
| 22:39.20 | xx8xx | so what should it be ? |
| 22:39.31 | cervi | Then name of you T1 channel ;-) |
| 22:39.51 | cervi | Maybe something with "ZAP"? |
| 22:40.00 | xx8xx | where can I find that ? |
| 22:40.12 | k84 | i got two betaMAX accounts, how can i automatically dial via the one which isn't busy |
| 22:40.14 | cervi | maybe the same like "trunk_1"? |
| 22:40.23 | xx8xx | let me try it |
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| 22:41.06 | cervi | btw, you have "TRUNK = Zap/g2" in your extension.conf |
| 22:41.23 | cervi | try trunk_2=Zap/g2 |
| 22:42.01 | xx8xx | I made it the same as trunk_1 and worked :P |
| 22:42.33 | xx8xx | so now I can make outside calls via both FXO and T1 channel using a soft phone |
| 22:42.47 | xx8xx | but I still can't make outgoing calls via our cisco phone |
| 22:42.53 | cervi | I am not shure, if "g1" is FXO or T1 ... ;-/ |
| 22:43.02 | cervi | Maybe "g2" ? |
| 22:43.24 | xx8xx | cervi what is g anyways |
| 22:43.38 | cervi | 23:37 < cervi> xx8xx: Do you want "trunk_1 = Zap/g1"? |
| 22:43.50 | cervi | you have that in your extensions.conf |
| 22:44.16 | cervi | I have no knowledge of setting up T1-Lines |
| 22:44.42 | cervi | Can ZAP be used for T1 too (normaly, thats FXO) |
| 22:44.44 | cervi | ? |
| 22:45.12 | xx8xx | it can |
| 22:45.20 | cervi | ah ok |
| 22:45.31 | xx8xx | because I just set both FXO and T1 to use zap/g1 and it works using a soft phone |
| 22:45.47 | xx8xx | what do you think is the reason that our cisco doesn't make outside calls now ? |
| 22:46.05 | cervi | I don't think its the fault of your cisco |
| 22:46.06 | k84 | How can i call out via another SIP account, if the one it first tries is busy? |
| 22:46.40 | cervi | In which context is your ciscophone, when you type "sip show peer <ciscophoneid>" (CLI)? |
| 22:47.14 | xx8xx | where do I get the ciscophoneid from ? |
| 22:47.20 | xx8xx | is that extention ? |
| 22:47.33 | cervi | no, a user |
| 22:47.38 | cervi | [101] ? |
| 22:47.41 | xx8xx | aha ok |
| 22:47.45 | xx8xx | let me get that for u |
| 22:48.19 | xx8xx | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.24 | cervi | ok |
| 22:48.52 | cervi | so you have to continue with debugging |
| 22:48.55 | cervi | :-( |
| 22:49.14 | cervi | Unfortunately, I have now to catch my (last) bus home ;-) |
| 22:49.25 | cervi | Maybe I will rejoin in 30 minutes |
| 22:49.38 | xx8xx | ok thaks |
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| 23:04.22 | Underhand | after installing ztdummy, do i need to make any changes to the asterisk config to convince asterisk to actually use it? |
| 23:06.36 | JunK-Y | once its loaded, recompile *, you should be able to use meetme |
| 23:07.22 | Underhand | i was actually trying it out in order to make music on hold suck less |
| 23:07.39 | Underhand | other than trying meetme, is there any way to verify if it's using ztdummy or not? |
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| 23:13.06 | xx8xx | any help would great guys |
| 23:13.16 | cervi | xx8xx: I am back. Are you sure, that T1 is used |
| 23:13.19 | xx8xx | I can make outbound calls via our soft phone but via cisco I can't |
| 23:13.19 | cervi | ? |
| 23:13.22 | xx8xx | oh yeahhh :P |
| 23:13.23 | xx8xx | wb |
| 23:13.29 | bkruse_home | cisco == teh suck |
| 23:13.52 | xx8xx | i believe so |
| 23:13.55 | cervi | xx8xx: In which pastebin do I find you sip-debug? |
| 23:14.00 | ChicagoBud | Anyone every have a problem with a sangoma a200d with fxo would answer but there was no audio path ? |
| 23:14.20 | xx8xx | let me pastebin again for u |
| 23:14.45 | ChicagoBud | I even built a fresh machine with centos, asterisk/zaptel 1.4 and the latest sangoma drivers and same problem. |
| 23:14.54 | aptura | seems not all poe switches put out the same voltage. Need one for my polycom or just replace the power adapter. |
| 23:15.19 | xx8xx | here |
| 23:15.20 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361137 |
| 23:15.46 | ChicagoBud | on top of it, I had fresh fxo modules sent out as sangoma said they might be bad and this is my second card too! |
| 23:17.47 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, what version of asterisk? |
| 23:18.03 | robin_sz | [TK]D-Fender, you know I said that resetting it fixed it? |
| 23:18.21 | robin_sz | [TK]D-Fender, I lied, I was looking at the worng phone web interface |
| 23:18.23 | Underhand | ChicagoBud: 1.2.14 |
| 23:18.28 | bkruse_home | [TK]D-Fender > all |
| 23:18.56 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, 1.4 you need to ./configure; make; make install * after installing zaptell |
| 23:19.04 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, never mind |
| 23:19.33 | Underhand | ok, hmm, so meetme works, but music on hold still sucks badly. |
| 23:19.36 | aptura | Evening bkruse_home |
| 23:19.44 | ChicagoBud | lsmod|grep zap |
| 23:19.46 | bkruse_home | aptura: ello :] |
| 23:19.49 | Underhand | so i guess ztdummy works, but music on hold is just busted. |
| 23:19.59 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, lsmod|grep zap |
| 23:19.59 | ChicagoBud | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.20 | Underhand | it's definitely loaded, i just wanted to know if asterisk was using it |
| 23:20.24 | bkruse_home | reload zap |
| 23:20.25 | Underhand | but, well, meetme works, so i guess it is. |
| 23:20.39 | bkruse_home | then do reload chan_zap.so, make sure it loads properly. |
| 23:21.18 | aptura | I would not be here if I was trying to find a replacment PA for my ip500 but I am looking at options to power it as in POE switch. Do all switches follow the same voltage output standard? Also, I do not need a 24 port switch. Something small or a injector. |
| 23:21.29 | Underhand | so, if meetme is working, and therefore ztdummy is ok, any suggestions for improving music on hold? |
| 23:21.42 | bkruse_home | aptura: anyone of them will work |
| 23:21.48 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, MOH may be choppy because you are transcodeing from gsm to ulaw or something like that |
| 23:21.55 | bkruse_home | Underhand: so your saying you just hear anything??! |
| 23:22.08 | JT | aptura: some stuff follows the 802.3af standard some doesn't |
| 23:22.12 | JT | all the newer stuff does |
| 23:22.14 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, can be really bad if you are calling form a Cell |
| 23:22.17 | bkruse_home | s/just/just dont/g |
| 23:22.32 | Underhand | ChicagoBud: i've tried MoH with a (local) IAX softphone, and with a (local) SPA-3000 |
| 23:22.41 | bkruse_home | ztdummy also isnt meant to provide timing for alot of things, as its not a true timing source |
| 23:22.47 | bkruse_home | but still, that shouldnt be the reason |
| 23:22.52 | Underhand | bkruse_home: no, i hear music, but it's choppy |
| 23:23.03 | bkruse_home | gotcha |
| 23:23.06 | aptura | JT I was wondering about that. I came across a switch that put out 40 volts so that would not be a good choice for my phone. What have you seen that is small and can power polycom phones? |
| 23:23.09 | bkruse_home | crappy machine? |
| 23:23.14 | Underhand | i've tried both mpg123 and madplay, just in case that made a difference |
| 23:23.28 | JT | aptura: the 802.3af standard specifies 48vdc |
| 23:23.39 | Underhand | bkruse_home: the machine isn't super-powerful, but it's lightly loaded, and by no means overloaded by mpg123 and asterisk. |
| 23:23.40 | aptura | right |
| 23:23.48 | JT | aptura: but it also has a signalling system to detect if the network device is capable before sending the voltage |
| 23:24.38 | aptura | Dos the ip phones have a over/under voltage circuitry that will not power the phone if the incomming power is outside of 12 volts at 1 amp? |
| 23:25.00 | bkruse_home | herm |
| 23:25.33 | Underhand | it gets choppy roughly every 2 seconds |
| 23:26.06 | aptura | I have tried a second wall transformer and it does not power up the phone. It puts out 12 volts at 1 amp but not sure what the impedence load of the phone is. Now, local poly reseller has the cord at 110.00 each. I said what?? |
| 23:26.32 | bkruse_home | aptura: seriously, way to much |
| 23:26.38 | aptura | I would say so. |
| 23:26.48 | aptura | Vancouver is getting hidiosly to expensive to live in. |
| 23:26.56 | Underhand | with iax & gsm, it sounds very slightly worse, but sip & *law is still very much not right. |
| 23:27.11 | aptura | Box of ceral at a safeway $9.00 in vancouver |
| 23:27.18 | bkruse_home | thats just the codec |
| 23:27.26 | bkruse_home | but its quality, not choppiness |
| 23:27.37 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, on my 1.2 system I am using mp3 |
| 23:28.01 | Underhand | yes, i'm using mp3 for the source files (in fact the mp3 files distributed with *) |
| 23:28.15 | Underhand | just, different codecs & different protocols to talk to two different phones |
| 23:28.16 | ChicagoBud | Underhand, hummm |
| 23:28.53 | xx8xx | what is it that I can make outbound calls via a soft phone but not via the cisco 7960 ? what am i missing here |
| 23:29.15 | Underhand | i sometimes get "Request to sch |
| 23:29.15 | Underhand | edule in the past?!?!" |
| 23:29.27 | Underhand | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:32.28 | cervi | xx8xx: can you again a sip-debug, but this time with "set verbose 10" |
| 23:32.39 | cervi | and I need the url of your extions.conf |
| 23:33.48 | xx8xx | sip debug vvvvvvvvvv ?? |
| 23:33.50 | xx8xx | like that |
| 23:33.57 | cervi | no, on CLI |
| 23:34.02 | cervi | "set verbose 10" |
| 23:34.31 | cervi | and also "sip debug" |
| 23:35.07 | Strom_C | cervi: I believe the verbosity level has little effect on the sip debug output |
| 23:36.03 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361160 |
| 23:36.10 | xx8xx | thats the CLI debug output |
| 23:36.29 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361019 |
| 23:36.55 | xx8xx | and thats the extens.conf |
| 23:37.08 | cervi | Strom_C: with "set verbose", I can see what Asterisk itself is executing |
| 23:37.18 | Strom_C | ah, ok |
| 23:40.18 | cervi | xx8xx: are you sure, that you've enabled "set verbose" ? |
| 23:40.28 | xx8xx | yes |
| 23:40.44 | aptura | Strom_C do you know if the polycom voltage regultor is over/under voltage sensitive. example would be if the voltage going to the unit was over 12 volts the phone would not power up. |
| 23:40.52 | xx8xx | localhost*CLI> set verbose 10 |
| 23:40.52 | xx8xx | Verbosity is at least 10 |
| 23:41.14 | Strom_C | aptura: beats me |
| 23:41.22 | Underhand | it's almost as if asterisk were simply deciding to stream the music just a little bit too slowly. |
| 23:41.28 | aptura | I am trying to find a cable here because mine does not work now. |
| 23:42.11 | Strom_C | aptura: which phone? |
| 23:42.34 | aptura | older ip500 |
| 23:42.56 | aptura | I am looking at either a Power adapter or poe injector. |
| 23:43.35 | aptura | Seems local wholesaler do not have any cords and the closest one is from attacom. I dont want to wait for it. |
| 23:43.36 | cervi | xx8xx: Can you check logger.conf for "console => notice,warning,error" |
| 23:43.52 | xx8xx | ok wait |
| 23:44.12 | Strom_C | aptura: so, big deal, you wait a few days |
| 23:44.52 | xx8xx | ok I found it |
| 23:44.53 | xx8xx | then |
| 23:45.22 | xx8xx | console => notice,warning,error |
| 23:45.22 | xx8xx | ;console => notice,warning,error,debug |
| 23:46.26 | cervi | and "logger reload" (CLI) |
| 23:47.00 | xx8xx | localhost*CLI> logger reload |
| 23:47.00 | xx8xx | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.00 | xx8xx | Asterisk Event Logger restarted |
| 23:47.00 | xx8xx | Asterisk Queue Logger restarted |
| 23:47.20 | cervi | ok, retry debugging now -> pastebin |
| 23:48.21 | xx8xx | http://www.pastebin.ca/361168 |
| 23:48.28 | xx8xx | there u go |
| 23:49.22 | cervi | I am not sure, but Asterisk doesn't find the extension |
| 23:49.25 | cervi | "SIP/2.0 404 Not Found" |
| 23:49.54 | xx8xx | it just doesn't make sense because the softphone can call out |
| 23:50.03 | xx8xx | but the physical cisco can't !!! |
| 23:50.10 | cervi | what you can do is, replace in extensions.conf all "XXXXXXX" with only ONE "." (dot) |
| 23:50.26 | cervi | ok, forget my line |
| 23:50.42 | cervi | maybe your cisco doesn't have the privilege to call out? |
| 23:50.44 | cervi | :-/ |
| 23:50.56 | xx8xx | will gateway matter ? |
| 23:52.48 | cervi | in this case: no. Because you can send and receive SIP-Messages |
| 23:52.58 | cervi | can you check, if your phone is registerd? |
| 23:52.59 | cervi | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:53.27 | cervi | aeh, "sip show peer <userid>" and look for expire or IP |
| 23:54.39 | xx8xx | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.53 | xx8xx | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.18 | cervi | ok, so it's registered |
| 23:55.29 | xx8xx | what about DNS |
| 23:55.33 | xx8xx | does DNS matter |
| 23:57.00 | cervi | no |
| 23:57.12 | cervi | Asterisk just can't find "4802214606@172.24.8.36" |
| 23:57.58 | xx8xx | then how come it can find it if I use the soft phone :) |
| 23:58.03 | xx8xx | sounds silly haa |
| 23:59.17 | cervi | what do you see with "logger show channels" |
| 23:59.22 | cervi | only "console" |