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`00:00.11`	`elriah`	`[TK]D-Fender: lol, no, I'm pretty sure the devil will come calling any day now...`
`00:00.23`	`vlt`	`gotoif and some nice line breaks won't be a problem, I think, but the hardest part is the <if callers in queue>. Can I run "show queue xy \| grep \| ..." and such stuff from a dialplan? Any idea? [TK]D-Fender?`
`00:01.28`	`elriah`	`vlt: You could call it from the shell, asterisk -r "some command" \| grep "some value" or something like that.`
`00:02.36`	`vlt`	`elriah: Is it $(asterisk -r ... \| grep ....) syntax in the dialplan?`
`00:02.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`vlt : Cheap trick : make a bash/perl script to check that then have it create a specific file if true, delete it if false. then you can use a dialplan command to check for the files existance. You could actually pass the file (use the uniqueid as the name). so as to guarantee that you don't collect crap afterwards`
`00:03.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`vlt : this would save you from having to do AGI`
`00:04.05`	`vlt`	`[TK]D-Fender: nice.`
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`00:07.24`	`k-man`	`can anyone recommend a voip provider in australia that also has a voicemail service?`
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`00:08.12`	`deb_user`	`hey...can anybody recommend a windows based caller id client?`
`00:08.22`	`deb_user`	`i've seen YAACID...but seems to be able to only monitor on one channel`
`00:08.40`	`deb_user`	`I'd like a caller id monitoring/registry client for my entire server`
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`00:11.29`	`JT`	`k-man: you haven't found one yet?`
`00:11.39`	`k-man`	`jt, i was pretty busy yesterday`
`00:11.44`	`k-man`	`didn't have much time to look`
`00:12.11`	`NDT`	`Does anyone know how to force a grandstream BudgetTone 102 to check for a firmware update? We bought a bunch of these in January and the stupid things have a firmware from 2005`
`00:12.15`	`k-man`	`faktortel do voicemail, but charge for dialing in to the voicemail server wich is a bit much imho`
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`00:13.08`	`JT`	`faktortel are a little dodgy too`
`00:13.15`	`JT`	`they get angry if you make too many calls`
`00:13.28`	`JT`	`they're perth based as well`
`00:13.29`	`NDT`	`How they sell a phone in January with a firmware from March of 2005 is beyond me heh`
`00:14.15`	`k-man`	`jt, who do you like to use?`
`00:14.56`	`JT`	`engin is alright, although i never use voicemail`
`00:15.12`	`k-man`	`jt, ok`
`00:15.21`	`k-man`	`what about simtex?`
`00:15.30`	`JT`	`never heard of it`
`00:15.40`	`k-man`	`bbpglobal?`
`00:15.50`	`JT`	`dunno what they're like`
`00:15.55`	`Corydon-w`	`k-man: isn't that a type of explosive?`
`00:16.09`	`k-man`	`corydon-w maybe, i dunno`
`00:16.19`	`JT`	`semtex is`
`00:16.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NDT : probably because they've been stuck trying to find a chump to buy that phone since March 2005 :)`
`00:17.55`	`NDT`	`heh..one I have with the new firmware sitting here works fine...irritating the shit outta me...but yeah I kinda got that impression now [TK]D-Fender lol`
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`00:18.44`	`Hmmhesays`	`[TK]D-Fender can you try to ssh to an addy for me?`
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`00:18.56`	`k-man`	`is there a comprehensive list of australian voip providers somewhere?`
`00:19.09`	`JT`	`there's a coupld`
`00:19.13`	`JT`	`couple`
`00:19.21`	`k-man`	`the one on ozvoip seems a bit out of date`
`00:19.29`	`k-man`	`a number of the links are broken`
`00:21.41`	`JT`	`http://www.voipchoice.com.au/planframes.php is probably the best`
`00:21.43`	`JT`	`followed by`
`00:21.56`	`JT`	`http://www.ozinternetphones.com/`
`00:22.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Hmmhesays : PM it`
`00:22.17`	`JT`	`i doubt any listings are "comprehensive" but they have all the major players`
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`00:30.35`	`k-man`	`jt, thanks`
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`00:31.41`	`i3inary`	`hey there does anyone know if there are any services or agi script that look up zipcodes from phone numbers?`
`00:32.01`	`JT`	`k-man: there's a wp wiki too http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/index.cfm?a=wiki&tag=VOIP_Providers`
`00:32.20`	`JT`	`useful more for connection/tech details than pricing`
`00:32.54`	`k-man`	`jt, thanks`
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`00:36.01`	`NTJOCK`	`hello all, any word on *Now stability?`
`00:39.52`	`k-man`	`jt, what about siphone.com.au? heard of them?`
`00:40.47`	`NTJOCK`	`Anyone ever had a TDM400 start leaving lines off hook?`
`00:41.20`	`NTJOCK`	`Mine started doing that this afternoon and consequently my * box is "down" because nobody can call in or out.`
`00:41.28`	`JT`	`k-man: seems to redirect to freecall.net.au`
`00:41.32`	`k-man`	`yeah`
`00:41.42`	`NTJOCK`	`* thinks they are on-hook`
`00:41.44`	`k-man`	`jt, are they any good? know anything about them?`
`00:41.46`	`JT`	`someone was here the other day defending it to the hilt`
`00:41.52`	`JT`	`but i think they're uneconomical`
`00:41.54`	`k-man`	`hmmm`
`00:41.59`	`JT`	`they don't support 000 either`
`00:42.05`	`JT`	`pretty lacking on features`
`00:42.06`	`k-man`	`oh`
`00:42.08`	`k-man`	`thats not so good`
`00:42.14`	`k-man`	`they do free voicemail though`
`00:42.30`	`JT`	`you don't want to do voicemail yourself?`
`00:42.41`	`k-man`	`jt, this is not for asterisk`
`00:42.50`	`k-man`	`its for an out off office user for her home`
`00:43.23`	`JT`	`oh ok, but if they're doing business stuff, can't they just connect to your asterisk box?`
`00:43.37`	`k-man`	`jt, well. they could, but i don't have one set up yet`
`00:43.47`	`k-man`	`and i don't have a server for it yet`
`00:43.54`	`k-man`	`i suppose i should start working on that`
`00:45.18`	`JT`	`heh`
`00:45.29`	`k-man`	`i wonder... i could set up an analogue->sip conversion for my existing phone system to integrate asterisk and the NEC XEN`
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`00:45.59`	`JT`	`you could, but integrating pabxes with analogue is icky`
`00:46.02`	`k-man`	`jt, yeah...`
`00:46.02`	`JT`	`i've integrated pabxes... but isdn`
`00:46.27`	`k-man`	`jt, i'm not ready to spend big on asterisk yet, our existing system works.. there is little need to spend the money right now`
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`00:46.36`	`JT`	`ok`
`00:46.43`	`k-man`	`jt, when we move premesis in the next 6-12 months i'll change over`
`00:47.03`	`JT`	`fair enough`
`00:47.11`	`JT`	`k-man: have you looked at Next G pricing?`
`00:47.19`	`k-man`	`next G?`
`00:47.27`	`k-man`	`whats that?`
`00:47.43`	`JT`	`telstra's newest mobile network`
`00:47.45`	`JT`	`it's 4G`
`00:47.48`	`k-man`	`oh`
`00:47.51`	`k-man`	`not really no`
`00:47.56`	`k-man`	`i am telstra averse`
`00:48.07`	`JT`	`it has the best coverage of any mobile network`
`00:48.15`	`JT`	`supposedly even better than cdma`
`00:48.15`	`k-man`	`really? interesting`
`00:48.27`	`JT`	`and allows video/data across most of it`
`00:48.30`	`k-man`	`but you need a 3g phone?`
`00:48.36`	`JT`	`next g phone`
`00:48.42`	`k-man`	`oh`
`00:48.43`	`JT`	`it uses 850MHz`
`00:48.48`	`k-man`	`oh`
`00:48.57`	`vlt`	`How can I call (or rather ring) more than two devices on a zapBRI port? Is this possible?`
`00:48.58`	`k-man`	`hmmm`
`00:49.10`	`k-man`	`jt, i don't really find coverage an issue for me`
`00:49.10`	`JT`	`pricing for voice doesn't look too hot`
`00:49.12`	`k-man`	`is it for you?`
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`00:49.46`	`JT`	`looks like postpaid only, and the cheapest monthly plans are like $1/min +27c connection fee for calls to other mobiles!`
`00:50.02`	`JT`	`yes i hate bad mobile coverage`
`00:50.13`	`JT`	`i carry 2 phones`
`00:50.16`	`k-man`	`jt, can you do sip over 4g and bypass their voice plans that way?`
`00:50.24`	`JT`	`cdma goes a lot further out than optus`
`00:50.34`	`DocHolliday`	`anyone here used broadvoice?`
`00:50.40`	`JT`	`k-man: dunno, you'd have to be tight on data too i guess`
`00:50.58`	`k-man`	`yeah, GSM uses TDMA, so the distance from the tower is hard set by the speed of light`
`00:51.17`	`k-man`	`where as CDMA is not`
`00:51.40`	`JT`	`yes`
`00:52.07`	`k-man`	`clearly the design of GSM was not meant for a low population density country like australia`
`00:52.12`	`JT`	`i've often been the only one with mobile coverage at times :P`
`00:52.26`	`JT`	`yes it's meant for small densly populated countries like europe`
`00:52.40`	`k-man`	`jt, yeah`
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`00:53.38`	`ManxPower`	`k-man: no, it was not.`
`00:54.00`	`k-man`	`ManxPower, no?`
`00:54.22`	`k-man`	`ManxPower, oh, you are agreeing with me?`
`00:54.39`	`ManxPower`	`k-man: GSM is not all that good in low population density areas.`
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`00:56.09`	`JT`	`ManxPower: that's pretty much what he said.`
`00:58.11`	`k-man`	`jt, what features does freecall lack?`
`00:58.21`	`k-man`	`freecall seems like a good option for me`
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`00:58.27`	`JT`	`k-man: i want next g (for the coverage, and cdma will be shut down feb 08), but i don't want to pay for it`
`00:58.35`	`JT`	`it lacks 000`
`00:58.40`	`JT`	`it seems expensive monthly`
`00:58.55`	`JT`	`$7 + $5 for did/mo`
`00:59.37`	`k-man`	`really? i though it's free... let me check`
`00:59.54`	`k-man`	`jt, oh yes...`
`00:59.55`	`k-man`	`i see`
`01:00.02`	`k-man`	`and its +$7 for DID?`
`01:00.05`	`JT`	`yes`
`01:00.11`	`JT`	`$5 for no did, crazy!`
`01:00.15`	`JT`	`freecall my arse :P`
`01:00.25`	`k-man`	`yeah, you are correct`
`01:00.28`	`k-man`	`sorry, i was wrong`
`01:00.54`	`k-man`	`but thats $12/m for line+DID, most other carriers are $10/m for DID`
`01:01.03`	`JT`	`the dude here the other day was vigilantly defending them, but also trying to see if there was a special number to call 000`
`01:01.04`	`k-man`	`and they do timed local calls which i think is better for us`
`01:01.12`	`JT`	`hmm`
`01:01.28`	`JT`	`if your calls are shorter than 10min they can be`
`01:01.42`	`k-man`	`jt, our calls average 1.5 minutes`
`01:01.50`	`JT`	`hmm`
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`01:02.18`	`k-man`	`penytel also offers timed calls i think`
`01:02.57`	`LanceSnyder`	`hello all`
`01:03.04`	`LanceSnyder`	`im down in miami at asterisk bootcamp`
`01:03.38`	`JT`	`yes pennytel do`
`01:03.46`	`k-man`	`are they ok?`
`01:03.48`	`JT`	`flashy website, just see if you can get it to work`
`01:04.05`	`JT`	`i tried to recharge a free account i made there once, but it wouldn't sign in`
`01:04.10`	`JT`	`mobile rates are cheap`
`01:04.57`	`JT`	`looks like they've gone down again`
`01:05.04`	`JT`	`i'll have to give them another go`
`01:05.19`	`k-man`	`pennytel.com?`
`01:05.26`	`JT`	`the prices have gone down`
`01:05.55`	`JT`	`13c/min for mobiles, most retailers can't buy it that cheap at cost`
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`01:09.30`	`k-man`	`pennytel is 1.6c/m i think for australin calls`
`01:09.44`	`JT`	`yes`
`01:09.49`	`k-man`	`jt, 14c/m for mobiles`
`01:09.55`	`k-man`	`where are you seeing 13?`
`01:10.03`	`JT`	`voipchoice says 13`
`01:10.06`	`JT`	`maybe it's wrong`
`01:10.38`	`k-man`	`ok`
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`01:11.38`	`JT`	`k-man: pennytel says 0.13 too`
`01:11.42`	`JT`	`on their site`
`01:11.48`	`k-man`	`hmm...`
`01:12.27`	`k-man`	`jt, business voip/call rates/australian mobile says 0.14`
`01:12.36`	`JT`	`it's different to personal then`
`01:12.44`	`k-man`	`oh yeah`
`01:13.48`	`JT`	`i have no idea how they get it so cheap, or how they make money`
`01:13.55`	`JT`	`hope they don't use gsm gateways`
`01:14.53`	`k-man`	`why not? what is wrong with gsm gateways?`
`01:15.06`	`k-man`	`and they probably get it so cheap by averaging it out over the call length`
`01:15.09`	`k-man`	`i guess`
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`01:15.10`	`k-man`	`no idea`
`01:15.13`	`k-man`	`but it is cheap`
`01:15.31`	`k-man`	`i thought if setting up a sip->gsm gateway and selling the calls`
`01:15.40`	`k-man`	`with a bunch of gsm gateways`
`01:16.05`	`k-man`	`i wonder how many calls you have to make to the gsm network to get really big discounts`
`01:16.24`	`k-man`	`jt, any idea where DID pricing is on pennytels site?`
`01:16.59`	`k-man`	`oh, they don't do DID`
`01:17.04`	`JT`	`on unlimited plan for $5/mo it comes with 1`
`01:17.07`	`k-man`	`so that's no good for me`
`01:17.14`	`k-man`	`it does?`
`01:17.18`	`JT`	`seems to`
`01:17.39`	`JT`	`have to make sure it's a real did and not one of their "access numbers" that you can call then enter your account id`
`01:18.01`	`JT`	`unlimited plan has fixed price local and national calls`
`01:18.07`	`k-man`	`oh`
`01:18.20`	`k-man`	`so you can't have timed calls and DID`
`01:18.24`	`k-man`	`at least not on the one plan`
`01:18.57`	`JT`	`looks like it, you need an asterisk box :)`
`01:19.15`	`JT`	`wonder if an ATA can do multiple plans and LCR`
`01:19.23`	`k-man`	`hmmm`
`01:19.23`	`JT`	`or one incoming one for outgoing`
`01:19.29`	`k-man`	`i'm buying an SPA941`
`01:19.36`	`k-man`	`yeah, thats a good question`
`01:19.39`	`sweeper`	`JT: the latter, yea`
`01:20.01`	`sweeper`	`mmm`
`01:20.03`	`sweeper`	`n/m`
`01:20.30`	`sweeper`	`depends on the ata`
`01:20.38`	`GreggB`	`I've got a Digium TE110P and an IBM 3550 w/ PCI-E ports, which it doesnt fit in. Any idea if the IBM PCI-X riser card would work alright instead?`
`01:20.58`	`sweeper`	`errr`
`01:21.06`	`ManxPower`	`The TE110P is PCI, not PCI-X nor PCI-E.`
`01:21.10`	`sweeper`	`I didn't think digium made cards for modern buses`
`01:21.12`	`sweeper`	`yea`
`01:21.20`	`sweeper`	`send it baack, buy a sangoma`
`01:21.22`	`GreggB`	`I was afraid of that answer...`
`01:21.37`	`sweeper`	`you'll save money, AND it will work :P`
`01:21.39`	`ManxPower`	`GreggB: Check to see if PCI cards can go into PCI-X slots`
`01:21.44`	`JT`	`you'd think you'd check before making such a big purchase :P`
`01:21.53`	`JT`	`pci cards can normally go in pci-x`
`01:22.28`	`GreggB`	`Alright - well, I've purchased digium cards before and never ran into a mismatched PCI port. yea yea - I suppose I should have checked.`
`01:22.44`	`NTJOCK`	`has anyone used a IAXY on a vpn config? (or similar Analog adapter)`
`01:23.01`	`NTJOCK`	`I've got a remote user who has trouble using a Polycom301`
`01:23.19`	`JT`	`trouble using?`
`01:23.41`	`JT`	`GreggB: it should go in pci-x`
`01:23.55`	`GreggB`	`JT: Great. Thanks for the help`
`01:24.03`	`NTJOCK`	`it doesn't seem to stay connected to *`
`01:24.12`	`NTJOCK`	`a Sipura (junkola) 841 had the same issues.`
`01:24.38`	`JT`	`i hear the 841 is junk, but the 941 is ok`
`01:25.30`	`NTJOCK`	`It's a good VPN connection... or good enough that windows stuff works across it... hardware level vpn using netgear equipment.`
`01:25.30`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: maybe they have a difficult firewall`
`01:25.30`	`NTJOCK`	`it's for one remote user`
`01:25.30`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: can you make any calls?`
`01:25.30`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: sounds like you have a VPN issue, not a phone issue.`
`01:25.30`	`NTJOCK`	`hey manx, long time no see!`
`01:25.30`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: is it a udp or tcp based udp?`
`01:25.30`	`JT`	`gar`
`01:25.32`	`JT`	`vpn i mean, is it tcp or udp?`
`01:25.32`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: Whatever you do, don't use qualify= option`
`01:25.43`	`ManxPower`	`Hello, NTJOCK`
`01:25.43`	`NTJOCK`	`which qualify option?`
`01:25.49`	`JT`	`ManxPower: why's that?`
`01:25.50`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: in sip.conf`
`01:25.53`	`NTJOCK`	`ok`
`01:26.06`	`NTJOCK`	`oh, hmmm qualify is on`
`01:26.15`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: because it is not reliable and wil frequently cause phones to become unreachable`
`01:26.16`	`NTJOCK`	`what does it do? (and yes I'll go RTFM)`
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`01:26.29`	`NTJOCK`	`is that in general or VPN (low bandwidth) specific?`
`01:26.50`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: it does the SIP equiv of a "ping". The problem is that if even 1 packet is lost or delayed the phone will become unreachable`
`01:27.02`	`NTJOCK`	`Aside from a bit of a pothole with my TDM400's we're celbrating 2.25 years on *`
`01:27.06`	`ManxPower`	`That is my general advice.`
`01:27.12`	`NTJOCK`	`thanks I'll implement it.`
`01:27.13`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: is it a tcp or udp vpn?`
`01:27.22`	`NTJOCK`	`ya know, I don't know JT.`
`01:27.29`	`NTJOCK`	`it's probably a UDP encapsulated tunnel.`
`01:27.31`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: find out, it's extremely important`
`01:27.37`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: JT's question may be the most important question of all.`
`01:27.40`	`NTJOCK`	`I do it at the hardware level in my netgear firewalls.`
`01:27.44`	`JT`	`if it's tcp, it's no good`
`01:27.47`	`NTJOCK`	`lemme look`
`01:27.49`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: find out the specifications`
`01:28.10`	`NTJOCK`	`I know netgear is a pain in the ass to connect to with anything that isn't their hardware`
`01:28.20`	`NTJOCK`	`but it's reliable as long as you pay the toll and use their sh%t`
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`01:28.45`	`JT`	`you said it :)`
`01:29.03`	`NTJOCK`	`netgear!=standards`
`01:29.09`	`NTJOCK`	`and the vpn client=sh&t`
`01:29.11`	`sweeper`	`NTJOCK sounds like a nortel fan :D`
`01:29.18`	`NTJOCK`	`but router to router is good.`
`01:29.31`	`NTJOCK`	`lol, yea, I replaced my Norstar system with * and never looked back!`
`01:29.57`	`NTJOCK`	`I only wish I could get my polycoms to do the voice-announce thing that my norstar phones used to do.... where they auto answer and go into intercom mode`
`01:30.01`	`NTJOCK`	`it was a great way to rattle lazy employees`
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`01:30.16`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: There's a Wiki page for that`
`01:30.28`	`NTJOCK`	`did someone finally figure that out?`
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`01:30.40`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: Uh, it's trivial.`
`01:30.42`	`NTJOCK`	`Polycoms look nice, work well, and are a cranky bear to configure.`
`01:31.01`	`sweeper`	`eh, once you get a good template file, they all fall in line`
`01:31.02`	`NTJOCK`	`so they are on the 3m policy.... (mushroom management method) don't touch it- it works!`
`01:31.09`	`ManxPower`	`I used that page to get my polycoms to do a double ring when an external call arrives, but the page is for auto-answer`
`01:31.09`	`NTJOCK`	`yea I agree with that sweeper`
`01:31.28`	`NTJOCK`	`hmmm, I should hang out in hear more often.`
`01:31.29`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
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`01:31.51`	`ManxPower`	`I manage 100+ polycoms.`
`01:31.58`	`k-man`	`jt, i think as the spa941 is a 2 line phone, i can just stick each account on different lines and instruct the user to dial out on the cheaper one`
`01:32.03`	`k-man`	`and publish the other number for DID`
`01:32.04`	`NTJOCK`	`I have about 12 or so... they are nice enough.`
`01:32.20`	`sweeper`	`just put in the user's name, extension, passwor,d and mac address, and BAM`
`01:32.25`	`Carp1`	`my enter key on my laptop stopped working for like an hour and a half...`
`01:32.29`	`Carp1`	`that was weird.`
`01:32.39`	`Carp1`	`and there is no SEND button to click on mIRC!!`
`01:32.53`	`JT`	`k-man: i'm not sure if the expensive one needs to be asigned a line button`
`01:32.58`	`ManxPower`	`^M?`
`01:32.58`	`JT`	`haven't used that phone`
`01:33.12`	`k-man`	`jt - oh, you might be right`
`01:33.35`	`k-man`	`jt, but it basicaly has a tab in the web config for each "extension" and you put the sip login details in there`
`01:33.49`	`k-man`	`but the idea is that you have 2 extensions, 1 for each sip login`
`01:34.03`	`JT`	`oh ok`
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`01:34.04`	`ManxPower`	`Gads, that is the worst idea ever`
`01:34.04`	`NTJOCK`	`jt I'm looking at Netgear's page and they are typically quiet about what standard they are using... it is a compliant IPsec vpn from what I recall.`
`01:34.21`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: i think ipsec has 2 variants`
`01:34.25`	`ManxPower`	`I HATE the idea of multiple line appearances using 1 sip registration`
`01:34.27`	`k-man`	`ManxPower, what is?`
`01:34.28`	`NTJOCK`	`ok.`
`01:34.28`	`JT`	`tcp and udp :P`
`01:34.36`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
`01:34.41`	`orlock`	`ManxPower: they work OK`
`01:34.43`	`ManxPower`	`My Asterisk life got like %1000 easier when we stopped doing that.`
`01:35.02`	`NTJOCK`	`we use a different prefix for each line appearance`
`01:35.19`	`NTJOCK`	`so 525 is line, 625 is line 2, and 725 is line 3... and 825 rings twice and heads to voicemail unavailable message.`
`01:35.20`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
`01:35.21`	`NTJOCK`	`:)`
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`01:35.44`	`ManxPower`	`Each of our (Polycom) line appearances register as a different SIP userID. The userid is the MAC - the line appearancs (a,b,c,d,e,f)`
`01:35.50`	`NTJOCK`	`great for "special callers" like sales folks I don't wanna talk to, or people who will scream at the recipient.`
`01:36.22`	`ManxPower`	`Our dial macro handles rollover/hunting as required.`
`01:36.24`	`ManxPower`	`by the user`
`01:36.57`	`NTJOCK`	`we use the * equivalent of a fucntion for each of the handset types. We have one for voicemail, and one for non-voicemail phones...`
`01:37.42`	`LanceSnyder`	`does anyone know of asterisk functionality with oracle?`
`01:37.45`	`ManxPower`	`Se just Set(VAR=value) to change what the standard dialing macro does`
`01:37.49`	`NTJOCK`	`I wanna say that the VPN stuff is TCP based.`
`01:38.14`	`NTJOCK`	`LanceSnyder it should... and if it doesn't it for sure works with PostGre so you could use that as a table server`
`01:38.21`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: run a ping for an hour during working hours, you'll see why you are having problems`
`01:38.41`	`NTJOCK`	`well, it's just one user on vpn`
`01:38.58`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: it's definately tcp based?`
`01:39.01`	`NTJOCK`	`and as much as I like my mom, she's not that hard of a worker.`
`01:39.04`	`NTJOCK`	`yea, I think so`
`01:39.13`	`NTJOCK`	`it certainly makes sense.`
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`01:39.14`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: tcp is unacceptable for voip and other time critical applications`
`01:39.42`	`NTJOCK`	`UDP is stateless. and tcp is stateful if I remember right. I had a few squabbles with NG's support staff trying to figure out why it wouldn't work via my Cingular Internet card.`
`01:39.49`	`LanceSnyder`	`im going to be doing an install for a client after im done with this asterisk bootcamp, but i was unsure`
`01:39.54`	`LanceSnyder`	`they run solaris/oracle`
`01:39.59`	`JT`	`tcp checks that each packet arrives ok`
`01:40.15`	`JT`	`and retransmits if they don't`
`01:40.15`	`ManxPower`	`What's wrong with PPTP or IPSec?`
`01:40.17`	`JT`	`very bad`
`01:40.24`	`NTJOCK`	`LanceSnyder A table server might be best anyhow. That way they can simply grab the data from a DB and not have to worry about the * app in their DB`
`01:40.38`	`dj-fu`	`I've had the most luck with ipsec+voip.`
`01:40.41`	`NTJOCK`	`ManxPower it's IPSec for sure, just don't remember if it's tcp or udp under the hood`
`01:40.46`	`LanceSnyder`	`yes i agree, but they specifically asked for oracle`
`01:40.46`	`NTJOCK`	`it does work from time to time.`
`01:40.51`	`LanceSnyder`	`as they already have oracle`
`01:40.56`	`NTJOCK`	`I really think it's a bandwidth/latency issue`
`01:41.11`	`NTJOCK`	`we have a RR biz connection and she's on a RR residential connection.`
`01:41.15`	`ManxPower`	`I'm not aware of any company that tunnels IPSec over TCP, but I guess they could.`
`01:41.15`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: just find out, run a packet dump or something`
`01:41.20`	`NTJOCK`	`so we have decent QOS and she doesn't.`
`01:41.25`	`JT`	`hmm`
`01:41.29`	`NTJOCK`	`and my guess is that windows is more forgiving then *`
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`01:41.49`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: as I said, run a ping thru the tunnel for an hour during business hours.`
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`01:42.38`	`NTJOCK`	`even during non-biz hrs I can't get that phone to behave`
`01:42.40`	`paolob`	`Hi guys! I was trying to know what are the managed DNS lookups you can enable in dnsmgr.conf. Anyone could explain me this stuff in a simple way? thank you`
`01:43.28`	`ManxPower`	`paolob: dnsmgr does not work, IIRC. Check the mailing list archives.`
`01:43.39`	`ManxPower`	`Use IP addresses whenever you can.`
`01:43.42`	`ManxPower`	`~mailinglist`
`01:43.43`	`jbot`	`Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ or search through it at http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives, or and there is also the Macintosh Asterisk mailing list at http://www.astmasters.net/maml.htmm`
`01:43.45`	`NTJOCK`	`19ms to 30 ms pings.. but an occassional 199ms or 300 ms ping.`
`01:44.01`	`NTJOCK`	`i.e. a 20 to 1 ratio of good to bad.`
`01:44.03`	`ManxPower`	`NTJOCK: It is working hours right now?`
`01:44.08`	`NTJOCK`	`no.....`
`01:44.14`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: packet loss?`
`01:44.15`	`NTJOCK`	`my point being that even right now that phone won't function`
`01:44.16`	`paolob`	`ManxPower, but what would the dns manager be for?`
`01:44.18`	`NTJOCK`	`no packet loss`
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`01:46.56`	`NTJOCK`	`I need to document the physical reset method for TDM400s`
`01:47.13`	`JT`	`hammer/`
`01:47.22`	`NTJOCK`	`remove from case, tap with non-metallic end of screwdriver, exalt cusswords, reinsert, reboot`
`01:47.44`	`JT`	`sounds like you have a dry solder joint`
`01:47.46`	`NTJOCK`	`my TDM400's were leaving lines off hook today.... they sensed the appearance of two AT&T trucks on the street.`
`01:48.31`	`orlock`	`heh`
`01:49.04`	`orlock`	`whenever a client ha a sudden loss of sync, etc, we tell them to go look outside for a telstra van`
`01:49.21`	`orlock`	`"DOnt let them leave until the unfuck it!"`
`01:49.52`	`JT`	`heh`
`01:49.59`	`JT`	`too bad if they do it at the exchange`
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`01:51.21`	`LanceSnyder`	`any benefit of sangoma to digium?`
`01:52.03`	`orlock`	`JT: yeah.. its common for cable contractors to fuck our ULL's though`
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`01:52.09`	`orlock`	`"oh, no dialtone! spare pair!"`
`01:52.17`	`JT`	`haha`
`01:52.28`	`JT`	`maybe it's worth getting a dialtone ;)`
`01:52.48`	`orlock`	`the ULL's without a dialtone mean that the DSLAM isnt a telstra one`
`01:53.01`	`orlock`	`so we can call up and get a port reset without the usual 24-48 hour response time`
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`01:55.06`	`orlock`	`JT: you remember OptikSurfer?`
`01:55.12`	`JT`	`yes`
`01:55.19`	`Zdrulio`	`hello`
`01:55.39`	`sweeper`	`DSLAM sounds like a streefighter move`
`01:55.52`	`orlock`	`ahh`
`01:55.57`	`orlock`	`Optik Surfer gets more results`
`01:56.02`	`orlock`	`sweeper: haha`
`01:56.05`	`JT`	`orlock: what about him?`
`01:57.06`	`orlock`	`JT: nothing, just i thought the name sounded familiar, but wasnt sure why`
`01:57.26`	`orlock`	`JT: visited a 2600 members home page... ;)`
`01:57.30`	`JT`	`oh ok, just a brain fart :P`
`01:57.34`	`JT`	`right`
`01:59.13`	`JT`	`orlock: skeeve stevens`
`01:59.15`	`JT`	`lives in sydney`
`01:59.27`	`orlock`	`yup`
`01:59.44`	`JT`	`Skeeve Stevens, RHCE Email: skeeve@skeeve.org`
`01:59.45`	`JT`	`Website: www.skeeve.org - Telephone: (0414) 753 383`
`01:59.54`	`JT`	`skype://skeeve`
`01:59.54`	`JT`	`Address: P.O Box 1035, Epping, NSW, 1710, Australia`
`01:59.56`	`JT`	`:P`
`02:00.02`	`orlock`	`in search of urgent rackspace`
`02:00.03`	`orlock`	`:)`
`02:00.07`	`JT`	`yes`
`02:00.31`	`JT`	`i wonder who uses equinix`
`02:00.40`	`JT`	`most people seem to be going global switch now`
`02:02.59`	`orlock`	`ausnet.. ausnet..`
`02:03.04`	`orlock`	`what did AUSnet become?`
`02:03.47`	`JT`	`do you mean austnet?`
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`02:04.14`	`orlock`	`nah, the ISP skeeve nabbed the CC#'s from`
`02:04.24`	`Carp1`	`What book do you all recommend to learn asterisk?`
`02:04.26`	`JT`	`ah ok`
`02:04.29`	`JT`	`~thebook`
`02:04.31`	`jbot`	`from memory, thebook is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`02:04.33`	`dj-fu`	`the book!`
`02:04.35`	`Carp1`	`Ok.`
`02:04.48`	`Carp1`	`I actually just downloaded that.`
`02:04.53`	`Carp1`	`I need to print it tomorrow`
`02:05.14`	`bkruse_home`	`JT: nice`
`02:05.20`	`dj-fu`	`eh`
`02:05.22`	`dj-fu`	`printers are for suckers`
`02:05.22`	`bkruse_home`	`Carp1: ya, its a lil dated, however`
`02:05.28`	`Carp1`	`hmm.`
`02:05.36`	`bkruse_home`	`but itll teach you some fundamental asterisk`
`02:05.44`	`Carp1`	`There is a new version coming out May 1st....I believe.`
`02:06.45`	`JT`	`bkruse_home: ?`
`02:06.53`	`Carp1`	`I do know a little bit.`
`02:07.14`	`bkruse_home`	`Carp1: ha, SUPPOSED to come out may 1st :P`
`02:07.20`	`bkruse_home`	`JT: nice reference`
`02:07.24`	`bkruse_home`	`ah, ~thebook`
`02:07.28`	`JT`	`yeah :)`
`02:07.30`	`bkruse_home`	`it was just slick :P`
`02:07.42`	`JT`	`i have a hard copy on the way`
`02:08.13`	`bkruse_home`	`i got a couple`
`02:08.30`	`bkruse_home`	`;]`
`02:08.34`	`Carp1`	`Everyones dialplans look different than mine though....hmm....And, I've been having trouble with NAT.`
`02:08.43`	`bkruse_home`	`Carp1: nat=yes`
`02:08.50`	`bkruse_home`	`:P`
`02:11.27`	`Carp1`	`hmm`
`02:11.37`	`Carp1`	`I've done everything and I never added nat=yes`
`02:11.45`	`Carp1`	`may that be why I am getting one-way audio?`
`02:11.56`	`JT`	`hey orlock`
`02:12.04`	`JT`	`orlock: from equinix's sydney page "`
`02:12.06`	`JT`	`Australia is a competitive, robust Internet and telecommunications market, and Equinix is Sydney's only neutral Internet exchange/data center. "`
`02:12.11`	`JT`	`what a lie`
`02:12.24`	`JT`	`only neutral internet data centre, i don't think so`
`02:14.06`	`Carp1`	`bkruse_home: Didn't work :(`
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`02:18.05`	`mosty`	`i am trying to register a sip phone behind nat to a remote asterisk box which is also behind nat. the phone registers ok but on the first qualify check it is unreachable. so i can make calls to the pbx but not from it. what could be wrong?`
`02:18.58`	`orlock`	`JT: how many real data centers are not network neutral?`
`02:20.28`	`ManxPower`	`mosty: your config is the hardest to make work.`
`02:20.38`	`ManxPower`	`double nat can be done, you just have to learn a lot first.`
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`02:22.13`	`mosty`	`ManxPower: i have had this working successfully with other machines in the same situation`
`02:22.46`	`mosty`	`i'm trying to confirm that i have the same settings on the remote box`
`02:24.10`	`mosty`	`according to tethereal, the remote asterisk box is sending sip options packets to the phone, but the phone never responds`
`02:24.56`	`ManxPower`	`mosty: that would indicate that the port forwarding is not done correctly.`
`02:25.55`	`mosty`	`i am running tethereal on my router here on the phone side, it shows the packets coming from the remote asterisk boxes public ip, to the phones lan ip`
`02:26.25`	`mosty`	`ie, it looks correct to me`
`02:28.10`	`mosty`	`hmm, except that the sip packets are using the public ip of the network that the phone is on`
`02:31.02`	`JT`	`orlock: dunno, but Globalswitch is neutral, and it's by far the biggest public datacentre in sydney`
`02:31.14`	`JT`	`biggest in .au i think`
`02:31.49`	`Mavvie`	`maybe the biggest in size of building, but not he biggest in utilisation yet :-)`
`02:32.07`	`Mavvie`	`that's mostly because people are still shoving in racks like there is no tomorrow.`
`02:32.27`	`JT`	`sure`
`02:32.37`	`JT`	`floorspace wise`
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`02:32.50`	`JT`	`2 floors are in use`
`02:32.59`	`JT`	`6 are completely empty`
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`02:35.17`	`FuriousGeorge`	`snom did something to their recent phones with kernel version 3.25... messed up presence with asterisk. anyone notice?`
`02:38.48`	`_paulos_`	`damn digium.`
`02:39.10`	`_paulos_`	`looks like they changed the chipset in TE110P`
`02:39.14`	`JT`	`?`
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`02:39.30`	`_paulos_`	`now I cant receive fax with app_rxfax anymore.`
`02:40.10`	`_paulos_`	`and it only works with zaptel 1.4`
`02:40.57`	`orlock`	`JT: yeah, we are looking for a colo to move some of our gear into.. but we want one that our DSL tal provider already has a pipe into`
`02:41.21`	`_paulos_`	`even with the newer driver, I'm having signalling problems every hour or so.`
`02:41.28`	`JT`	`orlock: ah ok`
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`02:43.38`	`JT`	`orlock: globalswitch is pretty sweet, and going off that mail list post, equinix is full`
`02:43.43`	`_paulos_`	`I know they dont support app_rxfax, but it used to work.`
`02:44.05`	`JT`	`_paulos_: so what do you mean changed the chipset in te110p?`
`02:44.09`	`JT`	`this sounds totally unrelated`
`02:44.39`	`_paulos_`	`We had a few boards burned`
`02:45.01`	`Mavvie`	`JT: you need spandsp to 0.3`
`02:45.16`	`_paulos_`	`whe we replaced the boards, they had all sort of problems.`
`02:45.46`	`_paulos_`	`Digium told tha then changed something in the newer boards, and that I nedd zaptel 1.4 now.`
`02:46.12`	`JT`	`Mavvie: i don't :)`
`02:46.12`	`_paulos_`	`with zaptel 1.4, the boards are working, but only for voice.`
`02:46.27`	`Mavvie`	`_paulos_: scary... specially if you consider that 1.4 works about two days before it hangs :-(`
`02:48.11`	`_paulos_`	`digium is famous for misbehaving at the pci level.`
`02:48.43`	`_paulos_`	`but I had problems with the analog ones.`
`02:50.07`	`_paulos_`	`I had to swap the fax-receiving E1s to another box with older boards.`
`02:50.36`	`_paulos_`	`what a mess...`
`02:51.51`	`orlock`	`JT: need something thats not going to have any hassles getting an interconnect to nextep`
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`02:52.24`	`Damin`	`So.. anyone going to Etel?`
`02:52.27`	`orlock`	`i think in melbourne they have their CBD gear in a telstra datacenter`
`02:52.43`	`JT`	`orlock: i guess it depends what you want, a straight ethernet connection to them? because all these big datacentres have tonnes of bandwidth`
`02:53.25`	`orlock`	`i am sure telstra has nice datacenters, its just i would lke to stay away from them on principle`
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`02:54.21`	`_paulos_`	`sorry for the rant.`
`02:54.45`	`JT`	`orlock: globalswitch is carrier neutral`
`02:54.58`	`JT`	`orlock: has bandwidth from anyone worth mentioning`
`02:55.21`	`orlock`	`hmm cool, need something in melbourne though`
`02:55.32`	`orlock`	`which sucks, as sydney is the bandwidth center of australia`
`02:55.43`	`k-man`	`anyone here watch bsg?`
`02:55.51`	`orlock`	`k-man: yup`
`02:55.58`	`mosty`	`orlock: i think nextep have presence in more than just telstra datacenters`
`02:56.24`	`mosty`	`verizon, for example`
`02:56.32`	`k-man`	`i haven't seen the most recent, e16, but the last couple weren't too good`
`02:56.37`	`k-man`	`orlock, what did you think of them?`
`02:56.46`	`JT`	`"Double interlock preaction sprinkler system" - from the Equinix page... WTF?`
`02:56.49`	`JT`	`SPRINKLERS`
`02:56.52`	`JT`	`in a data centre`
`02:57.12`	`orlock`	`k-man: OK i guess.. last episode i saw didnt have a single cylon or gunfight`
`02:57.19`	`orlock`	`JT: heh`
`02:57.41`	`orlock`	`JT: my brother works at the place that makes the smoke detection systems used by most top datacenters`
`02:57.49`	`JT`	`cool`
`02:57.50`	`k-man`	`orlock, yeah... it varies so much between great and pretty crap`
`02:57.55`	`orlock`	`mosty: verizon? i thought they were US`
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`02:58.05`	`JT`	`nah they're here too`
`02:58.10`	`orlock`	`JT: http://www.vsl.com.au/`
`02:58.43`	`mosty`	`verizon bought (or merged or something) with MCI which were here`
`02:59.10`	`JT`	`globalswitch is DSD Highly Protected and ASIO certified, whatever that means :P`
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`02:59.36`	`mrc3_`	`hello! anyone here with a pap2?`
`02:59.42`	`J4k3`	`the chicks dig it, thats the most important part.`
`02:59.47`	`mosty`	`mrc3_: i had one a while back`
`02:59.52`	`mrc3_`	`i managed to get another one and this one i unlocked it correctly! yay`
`03:01.09`	`mrc3_`	`mosty, is it ok if my asterisk box repeats unceasently "Unregistered" messages for my pap2 user?`
`03:01.54`	`mosty`	`depends if you need it to be registered or not`
`03:02.05`	`mrc3_`	`mosty, btw, what did you change the pap2 for?`
`03:02.27`	`mosty`	`a real sip phone`
`03:02.53`	`mrc3_`	`one you would recommend?`
`03:03.19`	`LanceSnyder`	`polycom 301`
`03:03.39`	`JT`	`301 is pretty lowend`
`03:03.53`	`LanceSnyder`	`yes, but what is your requirements of it?`
`03:04.02`	`LanceSnyder`	`linksys has some pretty nice phones available`
`03:04.45`	`LanceSnyder`	`how about a cisco iphone haha`
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`03:10.16`	`LanceSnyder`	`im a big fan of the polycom phones`
`03:10.41`	`LanceSnyder`	`i use the 501 at work, very nice and functional`
`03:10.44`	`CrazyTux`	`LanceSnyder, polycoms take to long to restart`
`03:11.03`	`LanceSnyder`	`yes i agree`
`03:11.13`	`LanceSnyder`	`but they're nice, minus that`
`03:11.17`	`JT`	`phones shouldn't restart often though :)`
`03:11.23`	`LanceSnyder`	`right`
`03:11.38`	`CrazyTux`	`JT, true but when you want to play with configurations, its a pain.`
`03:11.58`	`LanceSnyder`	`your phone should be configured right the first time =)`
`03:12.18`	`CrazyTux`	`LanceSnyder, true, but again when you want to play with configurations, it is a pain.`
`03:12.27`	`LanceSnyder`	`yes`
`03:12.46`	`LanceSnyder`	`but really, i can't see a boot time a reason to not buy a phone`
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`03:13.03`	`LanceSnyder`	`it takes approx 3 minutes to boot after your initial config is complete`
`03:13.14`	`LanceSnyder`	`if that`
`03:13.33`	`LanceSnyder`	`if you're in a production enviroment, phones shouldbe played with after hours`
`03:14.07`	`LanceSnyder`	`as with your pbx server(s)`
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`03:15.00`	`NTJOCK`	`they're a pain to setup, but once configured they are very low maintenance`
`03:15.06`	`LanceSnyder`	`right`
`03:15.14`	`NTJOCK`	`and if you want to change something globally it's just file changes, not phone visits.`
`03:15.30`	`NTJOCK`	`I was ready to take my SIPURA's out to the street and run over them the first time I had to change a bunch of things`
`03:15.34`	`LanceSnyder`	`you can even access it's web GUI to change certain things`
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`03:15.38`	`mosty`	`snom phones seem reasonable value, but the headsets don't work in australia`
`03:15.41`	`NTJOCK`	`I want a phone not a project.`
`03:15.56`	`LanceSnyder`	`wow, why dont they work in AU?`
`03:15.58`	`NTJOCK`	`if you're playing with it at home, buy a value based phone.`
`03:16.06`	`NTJOCK`	`if you are in business, buy a business grade phone.`
`03:16.10`	`NTJOCK`	`you'll regret it if you don't.`
`03:16.14`	`mosty`	`lancesnyder: they work, but with a lot of hiss and buzz`
`03:16.20`	`NTJOCK`	`$75 phones perform like $75 phones, not like $300 phones.`
`03:16.31`	`NTJOCK`	`mosty, you probably have a frequency mismatch.`
`03:16.43`	`NTJOCK`	`Stuff here is set for 60hz, and UK/AU etc are 50hz`
`03:16.55`	`NTJOCK`	`so if you are using a transformer that is geared for 60hz it will "buzz" on 50hz power.`
`03:17.15`	`mosty`	`NTJOCK: i don't understand how a headset is different to a handset functionally speaking though. the handsets work fine`
`03:17.37`	`NTJOCK`	`amplifier's are very sensitive to frequency noise.`
`03:17.46`	`NTJOCK`	`and most headsets use powerful amps`
`03:18.03`	`NTJOCK`	`we use plantronics headsets with an external amp even though polycom doesn't require it.`
`03:18.12`	`NTJOCK`	`I like to be able to adjust people and make them louder or quieter.`
`03:18.19`	`mosty`	`why would a headset need more powerful amplification than a handset?`
`03:18.21`	`NTJOCK`	`the * settings have never made people loud enough.`
`03:18.29`	`NTJOCK`	`dunno, it's just what I"ve seen.`
`03:18.42`	`NTJOCK`	`my plantronics headsets are very very sensitive to cell phones being too close to them.`
`03:18.51`	`NTJOCK`	`could be better shielding in the handset.`
`03:18.54`	`orlock`	`NTJOCK: i find my sipuras are ok. the cisco's are ok too (7960, etc).. Grandstrams are shite`
`03:19.03`	`mosty`	`we found that you can reduce the noise on a snom headset by using a lynksys power pack instead of the snom`
`03:19.09`	`NTJOCK`	`Sip's were okay... but cheap.`
`03:19.13`	`mosty`	`but it's still annoying`
`03:19.15`	`NTJOCK`	`sorta like a $10 wal-mart phone.`
`03:19.34`	`NTJOCK`	`and if you drop them much they will rattle internally.`
`03:19.41`	`NTJOCK`	`I had them in the warehouse where my employees are.`
`03:19.50`	`NTJOCK`	`they were not as reliable as the poly's.`
`03:20.07`	`NTJOCK`	`who knows, you're $8/hr employees may be nicer to your phone then mine were.`
`03:20.16`	`LanceSnyder`	`another thing to consider: digium and polycom are partners`
`03:20.18`	`NTJOCK`	`They also were very susceptible to background noise and the sound quality just wasn't there.`
`03:20.27`	`LanceSnyder`	`so of course their products are going to work well...`
`03:20.35`	`NTJOCK`	`that's stunning... polycom sneered openly at * for the first year.`
`03:20.43`	`LanceSnyder`	`haha yeah`
`03:20.46`	`NTJOCK`	`nah, I've been running * for 2+ years.`
`03:21.00`	`NTJOCK`	`poly only realized last year that * sold phones and therefore wasn't evil.`
`03:21.07`	`LanceSnyder`	`but now they're seeing the light`
`03:21.12`	`NTJOCK`	`yea... more like the green`
`03:21.17`	`LanceSnyder`	`heh`
`03:21.20`	`NTJOCK`	`polyscam would be better`
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`03:21.42`	`NTJOCK`	`we're all smart enough to set up a "DIY" PBX but we're too stupid to be given reasonable tech support from polycom.`
`03:21.50`	`JT`	`good phones use PoE, so wallwarts aren't an issue`
`03:22.03`	`LanceSnyder`	`god i hate polycom tech support`
`03:22.14`	`LanceSnyder`	`digium support isn't all that good either`
`03:22.17`	`NTJOCK`	`JT, this assumes you have the money for POE hubs.... otherwise you use walwart to inject POE at the desktop`
`03:22.34`	`NTJOCK`	`I chose to spend my money on Gigabit switches instead of POE hubs.`
`03:22.39`	`JT`	`makes sense in a business environment`
`03:22.45`	`JT`	`PoE switches you mean?`
`03:22.45`	`LanceSnyder`	`good investment`
`03:22.56`	`NTJOCK`	`yea...`
`03:23.25`	`NTJOCK`	`I consider hubs obsolete, so I call them switches interchangeably... I can't imagine buying a hub to save a couple $ instead of a non-managed switch.`
`03:23.32`	`NTJOCK`	`although, you get what you pay for....`
`03:23.44`	`JT`	`i only buy managed switched`
`03:23.47`	`JT`	`switches`
`03:24.00`	`LanceSnyder`	`as do i`
`03:24.05`	`LanceSnyder`	`i couldn't imagine life without vlans`
`03:24.09`	`NTJOCK`	`We replaced some D(oesn't)Link switches with some NetGear stuff and the increase in throughput was nice...`
`03:24.43`	`NTJOCK`	`I only have 6 heavy users and 2 servers so Vlans don't make sense for the cost.`
`03:24.54`	`LanceSnyder`	`true`
`03:24.59`	`NTJOCK`	`I have another 4 light users who don't need anything more then 100mb.`
`03:25.07`	`LanceSnyder`	`i have about 3000 users, so i depend on it`
`03:25.09`	`NTJOCK`	`IE only renders Intranet pages so fast anyhow.`
`03:25.11`	`NTJOCK`	`oh yea.`
`03:25.13`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
`03:25.24`	`NTJOCK`	`I remember managing large networks with BrokenRing.... :)`
`03:25.31`	`LanceSnyder`	`lol broken ring`
`03:26.05`	`LanceSnyder`	`im only 20 years old, so i've never been in one of those enviro's`
`03:26.18`	`NTJOCK`	`ah... I'm 35.`
`03:26.23`	`LanceSnyder`	`i wish i was that old at times`
`03:26.29`	`LanceSnyder`	`the older guys got all the good experience`
`03:26.31`	`NTJOCK`	`Hospitals and Banks like Token Ring.`
`03:26.40`	`LanceSnyder`	`70's and 80's phone networks`
`03:26.41`	`NTJOCK`	`lol... we got it by being young and foolish.`
`03:26.48`	`LanceSnyder`	`80 hacking`
`03:26.52`	`NTJOCK`	`nah, you don't want nothing to do with old shit.`
`03:26.53`	`LanceSnyder`	`x25 networks`
`03:26.55`	`LanceSnyder`	`war dialing`
`03:26.56`	`NTJOCK`	`ick!`
`03:27.08`	`LanceSnyder`	`it would be nice to have that kind of experience though`
`03:27.09`	`NTJOCK`	`very maintenance intensive and annoying to deal with.`
`03:27.15`	`LanceSnyder`	`haha i believe it`
`03:27.25`	`NTJOCK`	`VOIP is the future.... separate infrastructure is the past.`
`03:27.33`	`JT`	`i don't like netgear either`
`03:27.44`	`JT`	`voip has a long long way to go to replace tdm`
`03:28.06`	`mitcheloc`	`* voip is the present...`
`03:28.11`	`LanceSnyder`	`i know this seems probably far out`
`03:28.22`	`mitcheloc`	`or rather, nothing is the present in your analogy`
`03:28.25`	`NTJOCK`	`I meant analog and quasi-digital proprietary crap like Norstar and Nortel.`
`03:28.29`	`LanceSnyder`	`but does anyone believe that one day numbers will be non-existant, and email addresses will be the new "phone number" ?`
`03:28.36`	`NTJOCK`	`sorta.`
`03:28.45`	`NTJOCK`	`I think phone numbers will be another form of address.`
`03:28.46`	`LanceSnyder`	`i get that impression alot with certain protocols`
`03:28.51`	`NTJOCK`	`not a destination like they are now.`
`03:29.25`	`NTJOCK`	`you're starting to see it with portability`
`03:29.25`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: for the pstn, i think tdm will be around for quite some time`
`03:29.25`	`LanceSnyder`	`haha`
`03:29.25`	`NTJOCK`	`TDM?`
`03:29.25`	`JT`	`time division multiplexing`
`03:29.35`	`NTJOCK`	`oh, TDM will always be the last leg on POTS`
`03:29.40`	`NTJOCK`	`it's too efficient not to be.`
`03:29.45`	`JT`	`for now anyway`
`03:29.52`	`JT`	`last leg, or the core`
`03:30.00`	`NTJOCK`	`I was speaking strictly about inside networks like PBX and KSU level stuff`
`03:30.16`	`JT`	`ah ok`
`03:30.25`	`JT`	`yeah it seems that way`
`03:30.39`	`NTJOCK`	`We installed * and bought new phones for about $1500 which just happened to be the cost of buying JUST the voicemail add on to are Nortel KSU`
`03:30.53`	`NTJOCK`	`Nortel has got to be gushing blood with the new VOIP stuff`
`03:31.03`	`NTJOCK`	`it's a huge threat to their lock'em down and bleed'em model.`
`03:31.08`	`LanceSnyder`	`ehh.. nortel makes out pretty good`
`03:31.17`	`JT`	`lucky they still have telco customers`
`03:31.18`	`NTJOCK`	`although I noticed they finally came out with a VOIP bridge solution....`
`03:31.23`	`JT`	`which probably make their most money`
`03:31.26`	`LanceSnyder`	`a company i consult for just installed a 1.5 million dollar nortel/cisco solution`
`03:31.35`	`NTJOCK`	`yeah, but they used to mothball their old technology to small biz.`
`03:31.39`	`NTJOCK`	`and now small biz can leap to VOIP.`
`03:32.11`	`JT`	`the leap isn't voip, it's standards and flexibility`
`03:32.13`	`LanceSnyder`	`but big companies that raise questions to open source will always move to the commercial non-open stuff`
`03:32.14`	`NTJOCK`	`speaking of which, AT(ack)&T(errorize) has this callvantage bs.....anyone have it working with *?`
`03:32.40`	`NTJOCK`	`LanceSnyder: yes... but remember the martian's that snatch cokes.....`
`03:33.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`lol i love you analogies`
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`03:33.18`	`LanceSnyder`	`your`
`03:33.40`	`NTJOCK`	`our POTS lines are on contract with AT&T, so we are technically committing breach if we bring up non-at&T lines....`
`03:33.59`	`LanceSnyder`	`ehh`
`03:34.03`	`LanceSnyder`	`they're retarded`
`03:34.39`	`NTJOCK`	`the martian/coke thing is like this..... People will always raise objections that are technically obscure. But remind them that a Martian could land on the roof and snatch your coke at any time. It's possible, but not likely. It usually refocuses them from their obscure and weak objections.`
`03:34.55`	`NTJOCK`	`nah, the contract is required to get the $50/mo local/long distance unlimited rate here.`
`03:35.05`	`NTJOCK`	`it actually cut our bill alot by eliminating long distance for us.`
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`03:35.22`	`NTJOCK`	`We used to spend $350 to bell, $400 to MCI`
`03:35.26`	`LanceSnyder`	`wow`
`03:35.27`	`NTJOCK`	`Now we spend $450 to bell`
`03:35.41`	`k-man_`	`after having jerkey sound under asterisk under vmware, i have installed it on my 500mhz linux server, and I still have jerky sound`
`03:35.41`	`NTJOCK`	`and IP is through Time Warner for $300/mo which is a whole other story.`
`03:35.51`	`NTJOCK`	`I wanna upgrade to Fiber when I can afford it.`
`03:35.52`	`NTJOCK`	`;)`
`03:36.00`	`k-man_`	`it's slightly better than under vmware, but only marginaly`
`03:36.07`	`k-man_`	`what could be causing that jerky sound?`
`03:36.08`	`LanceSnyder`	`asterisk needs alot of processor priority`
`03:36.18`	`NTJOCK`	`look in asterisk console.`
`03:36.19`	`LanceSnyder`	`is this a linux box?`
`03:36.21`	`k-man_`	`LanceSnyder, oh.. so i need to nice it?`
`03:36.23`	`NTJOCK`	`see if you are exiting and restarting rapidly.`
`03:36.26`	`NTJOCK`	`that will cause it.`
`03:36.31`	`NTJOCK`	`and it could be a zaptel conflict.`
`03:36.41`	`JT`	`k-man_: any zap hw?`
`03:36.42`	`k-man_`	`not using zaptel, only sip`
`03:36.43`	`LanceSnyder`	`you may, listen to NTJOCK first`
`03:36.53`	`LanceSnyder`	`if not, renice -18 or something like that`
`03:36.58`	`k-man_`	`ok`
`03:36.59`	`JT`	`k-man_: what's the network setup?`
`03:37.08`	`NTJOCK`	`if you have a zaptel driver issue it causes asterisk to cycle rapidly`
`03:37.16`	`NTJOCK`	`it basically loads, crashes, and reloads`
`03:37.24`	`NTJOCK`	`it's hooked into the mechanism that allows it to auto recover.`
`03:37.35`	`NTJOCK`	`so first disable that.... and then see if asterisk flat out crashes.`
`03:37.45`	`k-man_`	`jt, all on the lan`
`03:37.56`	`k-man_`	`jt, not sure i understand what info you are after`
`03:37.59`	`NTJOCK`	`I seem to remember it being A) Kernel issues B) Zaptel build issues`
`03:38.18`	`k-man_`	`NTJOCK, can i remove all zaptel stuff somehow?`
`03:38.19`	`NTJOCK`	`I'd tell you what to type but you might delete your system and start a fire if you type in my commands... .:)`
`03:38.28`	`NTJOCK`	`what linux distro are you on?`
`03:38.58`	`k-man_`	`debian`
`03:39.01`	`k-man_`	`built from source`
`03:39.05`	`NTJOCK`	`You also could peek at your logfiles.... if you see asterisk starting over and over again you know you are having problems.`
`03:39.09`	`NTJOCK`	`oh, god help you.`
`03:39.13`	`NTJOCK`	`go get the debian package.`
`03:39.13`	`k-man_`	`i mean asterisk was built from source, not debian`
`03:39.18`	`JT`	`why?`
`03:39.20`	`NTJOCK`	`I had HELL building * from scratch.`
`03:39.22`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: no`
`03:39.22`	`k-man_`	`NTJOCK, there isn't one`
`03:39.25`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: umm`
`03:39.27`	`k-man_`	`NTJOCK, and it was easy to build`
`03:39.30`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: it's recommended practice here`
`03:39.34`	`JT`	`to build from source`
`03:39.38`	`NTJOCK`	`the debian package works.`
`03:39.45`	`JT`	`for some people`
`03:39.48`	`JT`	`some times`
`03:39.49`	`NTJOCK`	`and it's still in Dselect.....`
`03:39.55`	`JT`	`lol dselect`
`03:39.58`	`JT`	`who uses that`
`03:40.13`	`NTJOCK`	`the key for debian (in my unpleasant experience) is getting your kernel built and zaptel modules built and installed.`
`03:40.31`	`NTJOCK`	`I do..... but I openly admit to not really being a guru with linux.`
`03:40.38`	`k-man_`	`im not using zaptel`
`03:40.45`	`eald_home`	`mmm, m-a`
`03:40.46`	`NTJOCK`	`oh well.. what are you using?`
`03:40.53`	`eald_home`	`m-a is one line to compile it`
`03:41.03`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: i find dselect installs too much crap`
`03:41.13`	`k-man_`	`um... nice -18 didn't help`
`03:41.14`	`JT`	`NTJOCK: i usually only install base, then apt-get anything i need`
`03:41.20`	`NTJOCK`	`yea, I can't really argue.... I don't like dselect either.`
`03:41.24`	`JT`	`k-man_: what is the sip doing to?`
`03:41.29`	`NTJOCK`	`my mentor at the time liked debian.`
`03:41.40`	`JT`	`i like debian`
`03:41.51`	`k-man_`	`jt, jerkey audio is in the voice prompts (not in sip calls to sip things)`
`03:41.53`	`NTJOCK`	`I personally would have used something else like redhat`
`03:42.02`	`k-man_`	`jt, i love debian, it rocks`
`03:42.05`	`JT`	`k-man_: calling what?`
`03:42.12`	`JT`	`what version of *?`
`03:42.15`	`k-man_`	`1.4`
`03:42.21`	`JT`	`argh`
`03:42.27`	`JT`	`probably a bug`
`03:42.30`	`Braghetto`	`I am testing my server your can try to connect ?`
`03:42.40`	`NTJOCK`	`k-man_ what are you using if you aren't using zaptel?`
`03:42.44`	`k-man_`	`jt, when i call myself and get voicemail, the voicemail prompts are jerky, also hello world is jerky`
`03:42.58`	`k-man_`	`i thought 1.4 is released`
`03:43.01`	`JT`	`k-man_: calling with what?`
`03:43.04`	`LanceSnyder`	`1.4 is released`
`03:43.05`	`JT`	`k-man_: it's .0`
`03:43.08`	`JT`	`not very stable`
`03:43.13`	`LanceSnyder`	`im down in miami doing a bootcamp right now on that version`
`03:43.14`	`k-man_`	`it is still released`
`03:43.18`	`JT`	`try 1.2 or 1.4 svn`
`03:43.28`	`JT`	`k-man_: so what`
`03:43.29`	`k-man_`	`jt, linksys spa942`
`03:43.29`	`LanceSnyder`	`1.2.15 was released not too long ago as well...`
`03:43.29`	`sergey`	`Hi. Have 6 sip phones into one extensions and need limit outgoing calls to 2 How?`
`03:43.29`	`JT`	`released doesn't mean good`
`03:43.30`	`LanceSnyder`	`right`
`03:43.32`	`JT`	`1.4.0, .0 releases ALWAYS suck`
`03:43.36`	`LanceSnyder`	`i've found several flaws with 1.4`
`03:43.40`	`k-man_`	`jt... well, how was i supposed to know.. you go to the site, it says released. so i dloaded it`
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`03:43.51`	`JT`	`i won't touch it until at least 1.4.4 probably`
`03:43.57`	`k-man_`	`so i should scrap 1.4 and install 1.2.1?`
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`03:44.02`	`k-man_`	`or some other 1.2 release`
`03:44.07`	`LanceSnyder`	`1.4.0 is actually NOT the release it's at right now`
`03:44.09`	`NTJOCK`	`nah.... runs omething more current.`
`03:44.12`	`LanceSnyder`	`the current release is just 1.4`
`03:44.13`	`JT`	`all software projects first major releases suck`
`03:44.14`	`JT`	`1.2.15`
`03:44.16`	`NTJOCK`	`I have it running and am loathe to touch it`
`03:44.17`	`LanceSnyder`	`1.4.0 is the next release`
`03:44.26`	`k-man_`	`ok`
`03:44.29`	`JT`	`LanceSnyder: 1.4.0 is current release`
`03:44.33`	`NTJOCK`	`I also am running production and can't afford to have dead phones`
`03:44.34`	`LanceSnyder`	`are you sure?`
`03:44.37`	`JT`	`yes`
`03:44.39`	`k-man_`	`thats all well and good... should i give up on 1.4? or try and locate the bug?`
`03:44.50`	`JT`	`give up, i've heard others with this issue`
`03:45.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`i wouldnt give up, there is always a solution`
`03:45.16`	`LanceSnyder`	`it's just software`
`03:45.20`	`JT`	`LanceSnyder: probably in the source`
`03:45.28`	`JT`	`he could try going to latest 1.4 svn`
`03:45.31`	`k-man_`	`is there somewhere to post a bug? or some bug checking i should do?`
`03:45.34`	`JT`	`but 1.2 is a safe bet`
`03:45.40`	`JT`	`bugs.debian.com`
`03:45.43`	`JT`	`err`
`03:45.44`	`k-man_`	`jt, yeah, there is an idea... i love running bleeding edge`
`03:45.45`	`JT`	`digium`
`03:45.46`	`JT`	`:P`
`03:45.53`	`JT`	`bugs.digium.com`
`03:46.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`oh you were right 1.4.0 is latest`
`03:46.10`	`JT`	`k-man_: trunk svn is bleeding edge, 1.4 svn is updated 1.4 until next release`
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`03:46.16`	`LanceSnyder`	`pardon me for thinking otherwise`
`03:46.18`	`LanceSnyder`	`=)`
`03:46.19`	`Braghetto`	`I am testing my server your can try to connect ?`
`03:46.53`	`k-man_`	`jt, hmm... can i just svn get over the top of 1.4 from the released tar.gz?`
`03:46.55`	`Mavvie`	`right.`
`03:47.03`	`Mavvie`	`I'm ready to throw this polycom out of the window.`
`03:47.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`lol`
`03:47.15`	`Mavvie`	`(it must be a firmware issue, I hope so for them)`
`03:47.21`	`JT`	`k-man_: dunno, not my sort of thing, i only go for releases`
`03:47.33`	`k-man_`	`ok`
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`03:47.38`	`mrc3__`	`hey! after successfully registering with ekiga (or twinkle), what am i missing if i can't hear any audio? i have "nat=route" in my sip.conf`
`03:47.38`	`NTJOCK`	`Mavvie what's wrong?`
`03:48.25`	`mrc3__`	`i'm behind nat, btw`
`03:48.35`	`LanceSnyder`	`nat=yes i believe`
`03:48.37`	`LanceSnyder`	`try that`
`03:48.45`	`mrc3__`	`did that, and the same happened`
`03:48.49`	`LanceSnyder`	`hmm`
`03:48.49`	`mrc3__`	`with my pap2, though, it works`
`03:48.52`	`LanceSnyder`	`SIP ?`
`03:48.56`	`mrc3__`	`yeah, sip`
`03:49.00`	`LanceSnyder`	`you nat'ing sip`
`03:49.01`	`LanceSnyder`	`ahh`
`03:49.11`	`LanceSnyder`	`i've ALWAYS had trouble NAT'ing SIP`
`03:49.26`	`LanceSnyder`	`sip isn't a very nice protocol to nat`
`03:49.34`	`mrc3__`	`i hear you`
`03:49.56`	`JT`	`it's not an insurmountable problem however`
`03:50.44`	`LanceSnyder`	`it can work, but i cannot give advice, i only know what i've encountered with my employers network and NAT`
`03:51.05`	`mrc3__`	`i agree. there must be some play in the setup. right now i have asterisk in a public network, my local ekiga behind nat, and a stun server gently provided by xten.com`
`03:51.06`	`LanceSnyder`	`have you allowed RTP to pass through your router?`
`03:51.11`	`JT`	`mrc3__: you must set canreinvite=no`
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`03:51.24`	`mrc3__`	`JT, ahh there is something to try!`
`03:51.28`	`JT`	`mrc3__: you must set externip and localnet (in global section of sip.conf preferably)`
`03:51.35`	`JT`	`nat=yes`
`03:51.39`	`JT`	`insecure=very`
`03:51.44`	`JT`	`otherwise nat probably won't work`
`03:52.04`	`Mavvie`	`NTJOCK: it's using external configuration files, but it keeps half of the configuration in memory. And there is no way I as administrator can see what has been changed.`
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`03:53.26`	`NTJOCK`	`hmmm`
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`03:53.36`	`NTJOCK`	`you can look to see what it's running`
`03:53.50`	`NTJOCK`	`my recollection is that the phone needs to FTP or TFTP to a server`
`03:54.01`	`NTJOCK`	`and that if it finds a newer firmware it auto updates`
`03:54.14`	`NTJOCK`	`then it looks for a file with it's mac address that tells it what configs to load`
`03:54.23`	`NTJOCK`	`or at least that is how we have it running`
`03:54.59`	`NTJOCK`	`Question: Where would I set the voicemail recording level?`
`03:55.14`	`NTJOCK`	`when * emails a voicemail and you attempt to play it, it's WAY too quiet to be heard.`
`03:56.29`	`mrc3__`	`hmmm... no joy`
`03:56.44`	`mrc3__`	`canreinvite=no; nat=yes; insecure=very; and still no audio`
`03:57.02`	`eald_home`	`mrc3_, I'm not reading really but, codecs?`
`03:57.04`	`mrc3__`	`i also added some iptables for forwarding port 5060 to this computer, but that didn't help either`
`03:57.05`	`Mavvie`	`all phone numbers from Australian Technology Partnerships are out of service....`
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`03:57.22`	`orlock`	`heh`
`03:57.28`	`mrc3__`	`eald_home, hmmmm... i hadn't given that a thought. let me see`
`03:57.29`	`orlock`	`Mavvie" from? they a voip reseller?`
`03:57.33`	`NTJOCK`	`cls`
`03:57.35`	`NTJOCK`	`oops`
`03:57.36`	`NTJOCK`	`:)`
`03:57.47`	`NTJOCK`	`looking at one screen, typing on another.... :)`
`03:57.53`	`Mavvie`	`orlock: try a full line.`
`03:58.07`	`JT`	`orlock: yes, they're digium's official .au resellers`
`03:58.13`	`orlock`	`ahh`
`03:58.15`	`JT`	`quite amusing their phones are out`
`03:58.22`	`orlock`	`aha`
`03:58.31`	`orlock`	`we had an outage for an hour or so last friday`
`03:58.32`	`Mavvie`	`JT: not only their Sydney one, but all of them.`
`03:58.33`	`\|Vulture\|`	`okay not to sound like a total noob to * but I am plugging a Sangoma A101 into a PRI and recieving only RED alarms, any suggestions? The tech can rx/tx calls from his handset`
`03:58.42`	`orlock`	`voip providers link to th POTS died, failover failed to over`
`03:58.54`	`JT`	`Mavvie: probably run on one server or something`
`03:59.08`	`orlock`	`they upgraded to asterisk 1.4 maybe`
`03:59.15`	`orlock`	`:)`
`03:59.15`	`JT`	`heh`
`03:59.16`	`Mavvie`	`hehe`
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`03:59.20`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I have a xover cable attached from the adtran to the A101 right now`
`03:59.51`	`JT`	`\|Vulture\|: does that work?`
`04:00.21`	`\|Vulture\|`	`JT: thats what I have the red alarm on`
`04:00.27`	`\|Vulture\|`	`it was a xover cable the tech left`
`04:00.46`	`orlock`	`hmmmm`
`04:00.47`	`\|Vulture\|`	`commonly I have used standard RJ45 cables for PRI-->Sangoma`
`04:00.58`	`JT`	`yes that should work fine`
`04:00.58`	`orlock`	`i wonder what would happen if i left a dead SGI indy on the footpath at night`
`04:00.59`	`\|Vulture\|`	`this one is throwing RED alarm`
`04:01.04`	`orlock`	`i should point a webcam at it`
`04:01.11`	`JT`	`is it a T1 crossover cable or an ethernet crossover cable?`
`04:01.15`	`mrc3__`	`eald_home, no luck. same thing happens with ekiga and twinkle: they fail to give any audio, and furthermore, they lock up`
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`04:01.34`	`\|Vulture\|`	`JT: I am not exactly sure I would ASSUME the tech left the same cable used for his tests`
`04:01.46`	`JT`	`ok`
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`04:02.00`	`JT`	`\|Vulture\|: does it throw red alarm to a pri?`
`04:02.02`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I guess I will just deal with it in the am when there are ppl on site`
`04:02.09`	`larzen`	`Question - anyone know of a free north america SIP service?`
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`04:02.16`	`\|Vulture\|`	`JT: I will have to check that tommorow... but it does NOT loop`
`04:02.20`	`larzen`	`SIP to regular land linbe`
`04:02.23`	`\|Vulture\|`	`so that brought up a concern`
`04:02.50`	`JT`	`huh?`
`04:02.51`	`JT`	`loop`
`04:02.54`	`JT`	`what do you mean?`
`04:03.19`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I tried to loop up the T1`
`04:03.20`	`k-man_`	`my sounds are in gsm, but sip is running in alaw`
`04:03.24`	`\|Vulture\|`	`from zttool`
`04:03.24`	`k-man_`	`could it be a convertion issue?`
`04:04.00`	`eald_home`	`mrc3_,maybe ekiga debug mode could tell something usefull,`
`04:04.30`	`JT`	`\|Vulture\|: you need a loopback adapter for that`
`04:04.56`	`k-man_`	`jt, how does asterisk decide which type of sound file to use? ie, alaw or gsm or whatever?`
`04:05.02`	`\|Vulture\|`	`JT: I know.. but usually the CPE will start throwing errors if you try to loop without a loopback adapter`
`04:05.34`	`\|Vulture\|`	`its a little test I like to use to make sure my PRI is connected to the CPE... but that the PRI might not be turned up`
`04:05.45`	`larzen`	`Any ideas -- is it possible to place a free phone call anywhere in Canada/US?`
`04:06.01`	`larzen`	`SIP-to-regular phone (i know SIPtoSIP is free)`
`04:06.12`	`Mavvie`	`maybe there is a problem in Sydney at this moment, I see hundreds of CHANUNVAIL flying through now.`
`04:06.12`	`\|Vulture\|`	`larzen: I am sure it is... check for free voip services`
`04:06.41`	`\|Vulture\|`	`larzen: but any free service is not going to be reliable`
`04:07.11`	`larzen`	`yeah, thats OK. I just need a backup service`
`04:07.22`	`JT`	`Mavvie: hrm, i might bother to open a console from my ast server :P`
`04:07.24`	`Carp1`	`has anyone done the asterisk bootcamp?`
`04:07.37`	`Mavvie`	`might be interesting to monitor it in cacti...`
`04:07.45`	`LanceSnyder`	`Carp1: im doing it now`
`04:07.49`	`\|Vulture\|`	`mmm cacti... sexy`
`04:07.52`	`LanceSnyder`	`im down in miami`
`04:08.03`	`JT`	`k-man_: best quality first, or maybe matching codecs? not sure`
`04:08.08`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I actually switched to nagios fully... use to use nagios/cacti combo`
`04:08.25`	`orlock`	`hmm nagios`
`04:08.30`	`orlock`	`i heart nagios`
`04:08.37`	`orlock`	`except when it wakes me up at 4:30am`
`04:08.40`	`\|Vulture\|`	`lol`
`04:08.43`	`orlock`	`damn GSM modem`
`04:08.43`	`k-man_`	`ok, thanks`
`04:09.09`	`\|Vulture\|`	`I wrote a quick plugin with Asterisk::Monitor to view uptime/pri status/peer status`
`04:09.17`	`\|Vulture\|`	`but I only alert on pri status changes ;)`
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`04:09.36`	`NTJOCK`	`Carp1: LanceSnyder is in it now.`
`04:09.52`	`JT`	`orlock: what does your gsm modem do?`
`04:10.39`	`orlock`	`sends SMS's`
`04:10.42`	`orlock`	`mainly`
`04:10.52`	`orlock`	`its a.. Seimens M20? or A20? or M20A?`
`04:10.59`	`orlock`	`i forget exactly`
`04:11.26`	`orlock`	`it was here when we moved in, this building used to house some .com companytrying to do wireless for palmpilots`
`04:11.29`	`JT`	`what software?`
`04:11.35`	`orlock`	`putsms`
`04:12.07`	`orlock`	`many mornings i am woken up at 4am by my girlfreind swearing at me about my phone`
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`04:12.20`	`orlock`	`stumble to the computer... chmod -x /usr/local/bin/putsms`
`04:12.22`	`orlock`	`stumble back to bed`
`04:12.23`	`NTJOCK`	`Is there a list of VOIP/SIP providers who work well with * somewhere?`
`04:12.40`	`NTJOCK`	`We played with Broadvoice a while back and never did get it working (not that others haven't can't)`
`04:12.56`	`NTJOCK`	`Looking for someone as a rollover/surplus/outbound provider`
`04:13.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : Try VoicePulse Connect or Teliax`
`04:14.04`	`NTJOCK`	`are they US Based?`
`04:14.11`	`NTJOCK`	`or rather do they have US numbers... :)`
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`04:15.53`	`k-man_`	`jt, it could be a framebuffer issue apparantly`
`04:16.00`	`k-man_`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+disable+frame+buffer`
`04:16.03`	`k-man_`	`seems odd though`
`04:16.40`	`JT`	`hmm`
`04:16.45`	`pigpen2`	`Would anyone know the link to the page that has info of a the postgres driver for direct postgres access in the dialplan? (ie: instead of storing various values in the Asterisk Db, I can keep it in postgres and query out for it)`
`04:16.54`	`pigpen2`	`^^^this is not the same as Asterisk RTA.`
`04:17.22`	`pigpen2`	`I found it a few days ago...but I lost it (my dog ate it)`
`04:17.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : yes`
`04:17.59`	`pigpen2`	`[TK]D-Fender, do you ever sleep?`
`04:18.09`	`NTJOCK`	`Am I reading Teliax's name right as tel-IAX?`
`04:18.13`	`NTJOCK`	`meaning they are native *?`
`04:18.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pigpen2 : "show function ODBC"`
`04:18.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : Yes`
`04:18.36`	`NTJOCK`	`hmm`
`04:18.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pigpen2 : Sometimes :)`
`04:18.42`	`NTJOCK`	`that's cool`
`04:18.49`	`JT`	`it means they speak iax, doesn't necessarily mean they use asterisk or only asterisk`
`04:18.49`	`NTJOCK`	`too bad they are hardcore trying to imitate vonage`
`04:18.51`	`orlock`	`bwhahah... my GF is playing BF2`
`04:18.52`	`pigpen2`	`[TK]D-Fender, I don't want to use ODBC....`
`04:18.52`	`pigpen2`	`:)`
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`04:19.09`	`orlock`	`on an infantry-only map, and some idiot was laying down mines, hah`
`04:19.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pigpen2 : I believe they deprecated the old DB specific stuff...`
`04:20.13`	`pigpen2`	`Well, the other day I found a site, where this person wrote a driver for integrated postgres.`
`04:20.34`	`pigpen2`	`But at least RTA with postgres is supported in 1.4`
`04:21.12`	`pigpen2`	`From what I read on 1.4, odbc, mysql and postgresql are the "chosen 3"`
`04:21.20`	`pigpen2`	`.... for RTA anyway.`
`04:21.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`ODBC is the chosen one`
`04:21.54`	`k-man_`	`what are the moh-freeplay sounds?`
`04:22.00`	`pigpen2`	`so is postgres and mysql support for RTA going away?`
`04:22.07`	`NTJOCK`	`[TK]D-Fender are you using teliax?`
`04:22.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`pigpen2: no, they will stay around as long as there are people to support them`
`04:22.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`k-man_ : Freeely redistributable music for MoH purposes`
`04:22.43`	`Corydon76-home`	`pigpen2: but if the maintainer drops out of touch, those drivers could go away`
`04:22.44`	`k-man_`	`oh`
`04:22.49`	`k-man_`	`[TK]D-Fender, oh, nice`
`04:23.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : No, but others I respect here think they are among the better providers. I have had a few clients who were quite happy with VoicePulse as well.`
`04:23.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`pigpen2: ODBC is going to have the widest support, since if you do ODBC, you can connect to virtually any database`
`04:23.39`	`pigpen2`	`Corydon76-home, well, heh...one of the authors noted, "I haven't worked on this for long long time :-) There was 3 different pgsql drivers in the past. it seems my version was included"`
`04:23.52`	`NTJOCK`	`k... Teliax seems more technical as opposed tp VP`
`04:23.54`	`NTJOCK`	`er to VP`
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`04:24.07`	`NTJOCK`	`They also have a pay as you go plan which fits nicely with my use of them as a backup`
`04:24.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`i wonder who authored odbc`
`04:24.14`	`LanceSnyder`	`;-)`
`04:24.18`	`pigpen2`	`So I guess ODBC would be the safest bet....`
`04:24.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`Note that func_odbc will not be ported to mysql or postgres native`
`04:24.27`	`genz`	`Anybody tried out HPEC?`
`04:24.36`	`JacksLivr`	`i CANNOT get xlite to register to my asterisk install, is someone available to help?`
`04:25.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`is it local to your server?`
`04:25.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`are you using xlite on the same box you have asterisk installed?`
`04:25.09`	`JacksLivr`	`no, same sunbet though`
`04:25.20`	`Corydon76-home`	`Hello, Lance. How is boot camp going?`
`04:25.29`	`pigpen2`	`Corydon76-home, func_odbc is the "live querying" right (not RTA) ?`
`04:25.30`	`LanceSnyder`	`hey, it's quite well`
`04:25.41`	`Mavvie`	`brilliant`
`04:25.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`pigpen2: yes, SQL templates`
`04:25.51`	`pigpen2`	`k...`
`04:25.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`LanceSnyder: you have John as your instructor? Or Steve?`
`04:26.03`	`LanceSnyder`	`JacksLivr: what port are you using for SIP ?`
`04:26.06`	`JacksLivr`	`here is the end of sip.conf http://www.pastebin.ca/374007`
`04:26.15`	`LanceSnyder`	`Corydon76-home: john`
`04:26.21`	`pigpen2`	`Well, I will stick with postgres for now...then move to odbc if necessary.`
`04:26.55`	`k-man_`	`ok, well, it is still jittery with nice -18 and svn 1.4`
`04:27.03`	`LanceSnyder`	`JacksLivr: are you using the sample files ?`
`04:27.29`	`JacksLivr`	`yeah, but i added my stuff at the bottom`
`04:27.41`	`LanceSnyder`	`i would recommend doing it from scratch`
`04:27.50`	`LanceSnyder`	`all the extra stuff isn't needed`
`04:27.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : You sure you didn't not do something wrong? ;)`
`04:28.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`would make it alot easier to troubleshoot`
`04:28.10`	`JacksLivr`	`you mean just the sip.conf?`
`04:28.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`LanceSnyder: you know who this is, right?`
`04:28.15`	`LanceSnyder`	`extensions.conf`
`04:28.16`	`LanceSnyder`	`and sip.conf`
`04:28.27`	`Mavvie`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm waiting for Austechpartnership to get their act together and to give me the proper firmware.`
`04:28.30`	`JacksLivr`	`ok, i did replace extensions.conf`
`04:28.31`	`LanceSnyder`	`of course =)`
`04:28.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`LanceSnyder: just checking`
`04:28.43`	`LanceSnyder`	`haha`
`04:29.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : which one?`
`04:29.43`	`Mavvie`	`if the SoundPoint 650`
`04:29.47`	`Mavvie`	`IP-650 that is`
`04:29.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : Thats not a firmware, thats a PHONE.`
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`04:30.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : Which firmware release?`
`04:31.21`	`Mavvie`	`[TK]D-Fender: 3.2.2 for bootrom, 2.0.3.0131 for SIP is what we have now.`
`04:31.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : And the verion you want is.....`
`04:32.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : Thats 2.0.3. Later is 2.0.3.B followed by 2.1.0`
`04:32.25`	`JacksLivr`	`LanceSnyder: when i simplified the conf file, it synced up, i think`
`04:32.34`	`JacksLivr`	`LanceSnyder: thanks!`
`04:32.50`	`JacksLivr`	`lemme play for a minute and see if it works. brb`
`04:32.58`	`Mavvie`	`[TK]D-Fender: honest answer: I don't know, because this is the first day I play with them. But I run into so much troubles with it rebooting spontanously I want to get the latest stuff first before I open cases with Polycom.`
`04:33.12`	`Mavvie`	`[TK]D-Fender: 2.1.0 I would say :-)`
`04:34.51`	`LanceSnyder`	`JacksLivr: no problem`
`04:35.55`	`k-man_`	`jt, so i should probably try 1.2.x to test if i still get the jitter`
`04:36.03`	`k-man_`	`should the config files for 1.4 work with 1.2?`
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`04:36.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`k-man_ : Do car aprts for your 2007 Mustang work on a '57 Chevy?`
`04:37.33`	`k-man_`	`[TK]D-Fender, err... with a bit of persuasion ;)`
`04:40.02`	`pigpen2`	`Well, from what I can figure, Mark Spencer has picked up the pgsql RTA integration....`
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`04:43.49`	`Mavvie`	`0227034218\|so \|*\|02\|Cpu load is 3.4, and the average is 62.7`
`04:43.54`	`Mavvie`	`don't you love these things?`
`04:46.13`	`Mavvie`	`nope, also hang the moment I press dial.`
`04:47.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : Supplied ones don instantly override your phones config. Time to rebuild them.`
`04:48.10`	`Mavvie`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm more worried about the fact that the phone reboots itself when I press the dial-button.`
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`04:48.56`	`Mavvie`	`My guess is that I have an DoA here.`
`04:48.59`	`NTJOCK`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm getting an issue with * saying IAX is not implemented.... but I have a iax.conf set and I have the config in the extensions.conf.... is there somewhere else I'm forgetting to look?`
`04:49.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mavvie : I wouldn't write it off. Time to flush the filesystem and reprovision froms sratch.`
`04:49.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : pastebin the attempt and the error`
`04:50.00`	`Mavvie`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm not writing it off, I'm going to grab the next one from the other building.`
`04:50.00`	`NTJOCK`	`k`
`04:50.02`	`NTJOCK`	`thx`
`04:50.16`	`Mavvie`	`[TK]D-Fender: it's not until I have four dead ones that I have to start panicing :-)`
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`04:52.47`	`NTJOCK`	`[TK]D-Fender http://pastebin.com/889742`
`04:53.31`	`NTJOCK`	`I can see that it's a registration issue, but I'm not sure why iax.conf isn't being picked up and run... I'll paste that in too.`
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`04:54.48`	`larzen`	`Let me guess, so Arterisk is basically my own custom SIP server?`
`04:55.06`	`mog`	`sure`
`04:57.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : Next time : www.pastebin.ca`
`04:57.49`	`NTJOCK`	`oh sorry`
`04:57.50`	`NTJOCK`	`:(`
`04:58.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : "load chan_iax2.so"`
`04:58.49`	`NTJOCK`	`where?`
`04:59.16`	`NTJOCK`	`in asterisk console?`
`04:59.44`	`NTJOCK`	`ok, that worked.`
`04:59.48`	`NTJOCK`	`will it stay loaded?`
`05:00.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : make sure autoload is on in modules.conf or add it manually so it starts w/ asterisk`
`05:01.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`larzen : * is a telephony toolkit that lets you use all sorts of different technologies, managing calls between them in a multitude of ways`
`05:01.56`	`NTJOCK`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/374034`
`05:02.00`	`JT`	`it's a B2BUA :D`
`05:02.07`	`NTJOCK`	`ok..... now it says no authority found.... grrr`
`05:02.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`larzen : As far as SIP goes, it is a B2BUA (Back-To-Back User Agent)`
`05:02.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK : Ok, at least its THERE... now go fix your configs :)`
`05:02.37`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
`05:02.38`	`NTJOCK`	`ok`
`05:02.42`	`NTJOCK`	`point taken`
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`05:02.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I've got to get busy for a few.. I'll be checking in...`
`05:02.50`	`NTJOCK`	`thanks for your help`
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`05:24.47`	`yonahw-work`	`hi I am getting an error on te110p: Extension 'xxxxxxx' in context 'from-pstn' from 'xxxxxxxxxx' does not exist. Rejecting call on channel 0/18, span 1`
`05:25.24`	`yonahw-work`	`i have [from-pstn]`
`05:25.25`	`yonahw-work`	`exten=> s,1,answer()`
`05:25.25`	`yonahw-work`	`exten=> s,2,playback(hello-world)`
`05:25.25`	`yonahw-work`	`exten=> s,3,hangup()`
`05:26.23`	`Mavvie`	`yonahw-work: that looks like a macro, not a context.`
`05:27.15`	`kaldemar`	`if it was named [macro-from-pstn] it would be a macro.`
`05:27.36`	`Mavvie`	`kaldemar: true, but a context with s,... in it?`
`05:27.53`	`kaldemar`	`yonahw-work: you need to replase s with something that matches your number(s).`
`05:28.00`	`Mavvie`	`of course I'm not really understanding this, but for me a context matches numbers/`
`05:28.18`	`yonahw-work`	`i was under the impression that s would match any starting number`
`05:28.33`	`yonahw-work`	`as in a call starts at s if not defined anywhere else`
`05:28.38`	`kaldemar`	`nope, s doesn't match all numbers.`
`05:29.08`	`kaldemar`	`Mavvie: you can have s in a context for example if you set zapata channels as immediate.`
`05:29.26`	`kaldemar`	`but that's clearly not the case here.`
`05:29.30`	`JT`	`Mavvie: s, i, t, and a few other are contexts for fallback behaviour`
`05:29.48`	`yonahw-work`	`how can i set my zapata channels as immediate and what other reprecussions will that have`
`05:30.08`	`yonahw-work`	`meaning I want to answer all calls to the pri, do i have to setup a context for each did?`
`05:30.39`	`kaldemar`	`yonahw-work: if you have PRI and actually get numbers from the line to asterisk, you do not want to set your channels yo immediate. replace the s with something that matches your numbers.`
`05:31.11`	`kaldemar`	`an exten-line is enough for each DID.`
`05:32.09`	`yonahw-work`	`oh i am unfamiliar with exten-line i will have to look that up`
`05:32.26`	`yonahw-work`	`how can i set a pause upon answer the first word of my ivr is not heard`
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`05:32.59`	`zeeesh`	`hi`
`05:33.16`	`kaldemar`	`yonahw-work: use answer and wait`
`05:35.27`	`yonahw-work`	`kaldemar: thanks got it working`
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`05:55.00`	`yonahw-work`	`how can I set my outbound dialing for a pri to pick up any available extension`
`05:55.29`	`JT`	`zap groups`
`05:55.33`	`JT`	`eg G1/g1`
`05:57.27`	`yonahw-work`	`jt: appreciate that one I of course overlooked the obvious`
`05:57.44`	`yonahw-work`	`group1=G1/g1?`
`05:57.47`	`JT`	`no`
`05:57.53`	`JT`	`they're different`
`05:58.55`	`JT`	`one goes ascending, other is descending`
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`05:58.55`	`JT`	`group=1 in zapata.conf`
`05:58.55`	`JT`	`then you dial g1 or G1 in the dial command`
`05:58.55`	`yonahw-work`	`yes i have group=1 in my zapata.conf`
`05:58.55`	`yonahw-work`	`which one goes which way?`
`05:59.10`	`JT`	`search voip-info.org`
`05:59.39`	`yonahw-work`	`ok thanks`
`06:00.26`	`JT`	`Mavvie: you there/`
`06:01.20`	`NTJOCK`	`[TK]D-Fender Hey, just wanted to pass some kudos to you .... teliax does work pretty well and was easy to setup and CHEAP for a backup line.`
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`06:36.22`	`hotshot`	`hi, I have some trouble with asterisk 1.4, musiconhold and queues. A queue only plays the default musicclass.`
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`06:37.07`	`hotshot`	`Set(MUSICCLASS()=tst) and WaitMusicOnhold() works fine.`
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`06:46.31`	`pardove`	`what is branch 1.2-netsec? whats the differnce between 1.2-netsec and 1.2?`
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`07:02.00`	`pardove`	`what is branch 1.2-netsec? whats the differnce between 1.2-netsec and 1.2?`
`07:02.24`	`dj-fu`	`I'm sure if someone knew, they would respond, there is no need to repeat yourself`
`07:02.37`	`dj-fu`	`does the -netsec branch not offer a changelog?`
`07:02.52`	`dj-fu`	`by the name, I'd assume it's something related to network security patches`
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`07:22.36`	`tzafrir`	`some sort of "security device"`
`07:22.57`	`tzafrir`	`specifically, sip firewalling of some sort, IIRC`
`07:23.21`	`tzafrir`	`in 1.4 it is still a separate branch. It seems to have been merged into trunk`
`07:23.33`	`tzafrir`	`but I'm not really following it`
`07:30.01`	`kieran491`	`i have a firewall and i am just wondering are there any ports i need to open to connect my asterisk to freeworld?`
`07:33.06`	`dj-fu`	`What's freeworld?`
`07:35.22`	`kieran491`	`freeworlddial`
`07:35.55`	`creativx`	`.up`
`07:35.59`	`creativx`	`-.`
`07:36.25`	`kieran491`	`what are some of the reasons as why you might get an error like this "Peer 'iaxfwd' is now UNREACHABLE! time: 0"`
`07:39.04`	`mafkees`	`fwd is not registering here since this mornin`
`07:39.21`	`mafkees`	`ehm`
`07:39.41`	`mafkees`	`I cannot register at fwd since this morning (of course fwd is not registering on my box ;) )`
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`07:41.42`	`HaMYaI`	`anyone here familiar with php agi?`
`07:42.41`	`HaMYaI`	`or agi`
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`08:16.19`	`Mahmoud`	`COOL`
`08:18.26`	`creativx`	`warm`
`08:18.58`	`Mahmoud`	`i just heard of asterisk.. =] i'm excited`
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`08:19.23`	`J4k3`	`hmm interesting. Switched from SIP to IAX on my Vitelity stuff, works better it appears.`
`08:19.28`	`J4k3`	`sounds better at least`
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`08:25.54`	`e-ddie`	`i just heard of vista, so i'm excited too`
`08:25.58`	`creativx`	`hehe Mahmoud, welcome to the club`
`08:26.39`	`Mahmoud`	`expect swamps of questions =P`
`08:28.51`	`Mahmoud`	`should I pay money to use G.729 codec?`
`08:29.09`	`jql`	`depends. how much does your bandwidth cost?`
`08:29.26`	`jql`	`$10/line one time, or $x/month forever?`
`08:29.50`	`Mahmoud`	`i thought it's a 100% open source thing, but it seems not`
`08:30.12`	`Mahmoud`	`searching in features list, G.729 seems the only not-free feature`
`08:30.18`	`jql`	`naw, the patent trolls have g729 locked up. gsm is the open codec, or ilbc`
`08:30.26`	`jql`	`gsm's not bad`
`08:30.47`	`Mahmoud`	`8kbps ?`
`08:31.00`	`jql`	`g726 has a mode that low`
`08:31.16`	`Mahmoud`	`similar quality?`
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`08:31.43`	`jql`	`perhaps I meant g723`
`08:31.56`	`jql`	`never used that one. gsm, g729, and ulaw`
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`08:32.45`	`Mahmoud`	`what do you use?`
`08:33.05`	`jql`	`g729 to phones, ulaw to telcos`
`08:33.21`	`jql`	`I have to transcode due to my company's business`
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`08:33.57`	`Mahmoud`	`i see`
`08:34.07`	`jql`	`also, polycom and cisco aren't friendly to the other codecs`
`08:34.15`	`jql`	`they're primarily ulaw or g729`
`08:35.17`	`jql`	`g729 sounds awful on anything with rich audio (hold music -- blech), but voice sounds fine to me. a smidge better than a cell-phone, IMO`
`08:35.28`	`jql`	`but a much better handset. )`
`08:35.38`	`Mahmoud`	`awful = bad ?`
`08:36.04`	`h3x`	`i donno, i never notice anything wrong with g729a`
`08:36.06`	`jql`	`my company's elevator music sounds like crap over g729`
`08:36.12`	`h3x`	`are you trying to run it on a Pentium 133? :)`
`08:36.28`	`h3x`	`maybe the music sucks ;)`
`08:36.33`	`Mahmoud`	`some codecs are optimized for human voice`
`08:36.34`	`jql`	`oh... it does`
`08:37.08`	`Mahmoud`	`jql, english is not my 1st language, but what did you mean by awful? bad or good?`
`08:37.13`	`jql`	`bad`
`08:37.36`	`Mahmoud`	`expected..`
`08:37.58`	`Mahmoud`	`that's why it's 8kbps, optimized for human voice`
`08:38.17`	`jql`	`exactly. It's very good at voice, in my opinion`
`08:38.24`	`h3x`	`thats why you should have hold music running on the box thats doing hte transcoding i guess :)`
`08:39.12`	`Mahmoud`	`it's better to have someone singing rather than playing music for on-hold :P`
`08:39.58`	`jql`	`I prefer the tinny AM-radio hold music to the looping sales pitch and/or demoralizer of certain other companies`
`08:40.10`	`J4k3`	`depends, I've found pre-filtering music for phone frequencies can greatly improve quality`
`08:40.41`	`Mahmoud`	`our phone ISP plays on-hold music and it sounds like "bvvvvvv bvvvvv" horrible`
`08:40.47`	`jql`	`maybe I'll try mucking with the audio bandwidth and pre-transcoding it to g729`
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`08:40.58`	`J4k3`	`yeah`
`08:42.07`	`jql`	`Yanni won't know what hit him...`
`08:47.12`	`J4k3`	`haha`
`08:47.18`	`J4k3`	`poor yanni`
`08:47.21`	`Mahmoud`	`ymmy joicy brains that made asterisk`
`08:47.39`	`J4k3`	`give me 10 minutes and a louisville slugger, and I'm sure I could adjust him to stay between 450 and 3500 hz ;)`
`08:47.54`	`J4k3`	`wow. my f1000g just went spaztastic again`
`08:48.07`	`J4k3`	`heh.. this thing is nothing but a bundle of excitement`
`08:48.10`	`J4k3`	`or excretement`
`08:48.13`	`J4k3`	`not sure which yet`
`08:48.19`	`J4k3`	`leaning toward the 2nd at this point`
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`08:50.17`	`J4k3`	`oh well, at least I know its not me. a grandstream behind a cheapo 802.11g "gaming bridge" works great, even if I walk around with it. Its the damned wifi phone.`
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`08:54.41`	`Mahmoud`	`is asterisk similar to cisco's callmanager?`
`08:55.49`	`h3x`	`no, it dosent cost you a small fortune.`
`08:55.51`	`sbingner`	`.... no`
`08:56.01`	`sbingner`	`it also isn't nearly as limited`
`08:56.14`	`jql`	`well, trixbox (an old fork of asterisk) aims to be a somewhat direct competitor to callmanager, but asterisk itself isn't, really`
`08:56.55`	`joelsolanki`	`from where i can download silence-suppression-2.diff`
`08:57.01`	`sbingner`	`you only had 1 that didn't belong`
`08:57.15`	`joelsolanki`	`i need to tell asterisk to either disable silence suppression or enable it.`
`08:57.39`	`joelsolanki`	`we are having voice quality problems due to clients sending us VAD. VAD is also enabled on my provider side :(`
`08:57.45`	`joelsolanki`	`any info plz`
`08:57.55`	`jql`	`google pulls up the file. first hit`
`08:58.06`	`jql`	`only hit, really`
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`08:59.24`	`h3x`	`joel: the vad probelm has to do with asterisk timing off the receive side of the channel instead of transmit`
`08:59.28`	`jql`	`with my version of asterisk, I don't have a problem with vad. asterisk spits out an annoying message whenever someone uses it, but the audio packets keep flowing. I'm using post-fix versions`
`08:59.35`	`h3x`	`and theres not a completely standardized way to tell the far end to disable it`
`08:59.42`	`h3x`	`most use annexb=no in a sip header`
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`09:00.39`	`bertrand^`	`hello`
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`09:01.36`	`bertrand^`	`what does "Sync Source: Internally clocked" shown by zttool mean??`
`09:01.46`	`bertrand^`	`i can't find any doc about that`
`09:02.06`	`bertrand^`	`i'd like to be sure i'm using my T2 as a primary sync source`
`09:03.15`	`joelsolanki`	`ok.`
`09:03.31`	`joelsolanki`	`i heard there is some patch for silence suppression.`
`09:03.36`	`joelsolanki`	`is that so ?`
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`09:04.55`	`joelsolanki`	`i m using asterisk 1.2.0`
`09:05.06`	`joelsolanki`	`h3x: which version u r using`
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`09:05.50`	`pardove`	`whats the difference between asterisk 1.2 and 1.2-netsec?`
`09:05.57`	`h3x`	`well i havent tried it in a while,maybe there is`
`09:06.16`	`h3x`	`i think it will only work when its voip-voip though`
`09:06.23`	`h3x`	`as zaptel dosent have CNG`
`09:06.39`	`joelsolanki`	`it is voip to voip`
`09:06.47`	`h3x`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:07.39`	`pardove`	`whats the difference between asterisk 1.2 and 1.2-netsec?`
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`09:31.37`	`Modcuts`	`Looking into using mysql with realtime for sip users and iax users if i store them in the non static form will they be removed on a reboot or is that just created extensions during calls that get put in memory only?`
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`09:37.24`	`Antel`	`Hi, i have a quick (or perhaps not so quick) question about the Asterisk 1.4 configure/build/install process. Is it possible to get Asterisk to install and run from a users home directory? And if so... is there a guide for it somewhere?`
`09:38.51`	`Antel`	`Ive tried configure --prefix and --exec-prefix but the configuration files is placed in /etc and alot of the runtime files seems to be placed in /var.`
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`09:47.37`	`jql`	`umm`
`09:47.44`	`bkw_`	`umm?`
`09:48.03`	`jql`	`nm. :)`
`09:49.42`	`jql`	`Antel: I don't know about installing it to a user directory, but I do run it from my home directory. I just move the files into ~/asterisk/... and edit asterisk.conf to point there`
`09:49.51`	`jql`	`as for the initial install... shrug`
`09:50.17`	`jql`	`it helps with running lots of versions on the same box`
`09:50.59`	`Antel`	`Ok, thats helpful to know. At least i know Asterisk can be run that way now. :)`
`09:51.50`	`Antel`	`Looking through makefiles atm to try and trace whats causing the /var and /etc misplacements.`
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`10:01.00`	`Modcuts`	`If i'm using the ARA and i use sipusers,sippeers family mappings instead of loading the sip.conf what major features do it loose from the sip.conf?`
`10:03.04`	`qdk`	`Modcuts: depends. You might lose the qualify ability, if you dont use caching.`
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`10:03.07`	`tutt9876`	`hi`
`10:04.00`	`tutt9876`	`I am in debug mode and have may missed calls that appear in the console: is there a command to clear "asterisk cache"?`
`10:04.40`	`jql`	`cache? what do you mean?`
`10:05.18`	`tutt9876`	`I think i understood that those missed calls wher coming from a cache from somewhere?`
`10:06.28`	`tutt9876`	`or retrys?`
`10:07.26`	`Modcuts`	`<qdk>: I have tried to use static mappings so sip.conf with the table shown on the static page on the voip-wiki but won't register, but the sipusers, peers work fine. So you can use voicemail fine with it? How would i cache it?`
`10:09.11`	`Modcuts`	`<qdk> do you mean with rtcachefriends=yes ?`
`10:09.57`	`tutt9876`	`modcus: what do you mean with rtcachefriends?`
`10:11.36`	`Modcuts`	`<tutt9876> If your using sipusers and sippeers instead of using static for ARA it would be wise to add that option into the flat sip file for mwi and qualify to work..`
`10:14.11`	`qdk`	`Modcuts: yes, thats the option.`
`10:16.22`	`Modcuts`	`<qdk>: Thank you, if i were to use static so loading the sip.conf from db for it to work do you have to use the cat_metric \| var_metric values ?`
`10:18.02`	`qdk`	`Modcuts: I dont know. I dont use realtime SIPs just yet.`
`10:18.27`	`Modcuts`	`<qdk> Ok cheers`
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`10:34.27`	`kieran491`	`hi`
`10:35.25`	`kieran491`	when looking at `iax2 show peers` a peer having a status of `UNREACHABLE` means? i enterd in the incorect details? no conectivity?
`10:36.24`	`KnowWhat`	`kieran491: it means no connectivity`
`10:36.32`	`KnowWhat`	`you have to connect it again from the client`
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`10:37.23`	`kieran491`	`ohh this is to freeworlddial`
`10:37.59`	`Antel`	`Mwahaha... solved it, was two variables in makeopts that wasnt getting set correctly.`
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`10:42.17`	`kieran491`	`If you have somthing like IPCOP set up do you need to change anything for asterisk to work?`
`10:42.34`	`bertrand^`	`my ISDN provider is asking me _not_ to choose a channel while making a call using my digium card`
`10:42.46`	`bertrand^`	`that sounds really strange to me, any ideas?`
`10:43.18`	`kaldemar`	`hi, would anyone know the limit for cmd Dial parameter length?`
`10:43.48`	`bertrand^`	`i think i have to use one of those for zaptel: g1 G1 r1 R1, if i remove that, it doesn't work`
`10:47.07`	`HaMYaI`	`any knows how to play silence sound in agi get_data?`
`10:47.38`	`HaMYaI`	`like 'beep' is for a beep sound`
`10:48.53`	`kieran491`	`I can recive calls from my network as it is unreachable is there some common reasons as to why that may be happening?`
`10:48.55`	`HaMYaI`	`or I will need to create a file`
`10:49.03`	`HaMYaI`	`containing silence`
`10:51.05`	`ThoMe`	`Hellooo :-)`
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`11:12.18`	`JT`	`bertrand^: yes your provider is on crack`
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`11:17.15`	`TheMahmoud`	`when making voip calls, should my phone stick with some fixed port numbers? or they are random source port numbers?`
`11:17.27`	`Mavvie`	`JT: am now`
`11:19.09`	`bertrand^`	`JT, that's what i think, too`
`11:19.32`	`bertrand^`	`JT, the problem is that i can't make any outgoing call`
`11:20.24`	`bertrand^`	`is there some good doc about ISDN around showing i have to specify a channel?`
`11:20.42`	`tzafrir`	`what ISDN?`
`11:20.47`	`tzafrir`	`a channel?`
`11:20.57`	`bertrand^`	`TheMahmoud, which protocols do you use?`
`11:21.02`	`Mavvie`	`bertrand^: is that as in incoming calls work but outgoing calls don't?`
`11:21.14`	`bertrand^`	`Mavvie, right`
`11:21.17`	`tzafrir`	`ISDN: BRI or PRI?`
`11:21.31`	`bertrand^`	`once i make a call, the span is hang up`
`11:21.33`	`bertrand^`	`PRI`
`11:21.33`	`TheMahmoud`	`bertrand^, i'm new to voip. some phones are behind PAT`
`11:21.45`	`Mavvie`	`bertrand^: sounds like what I had with AAPT.`
`11:21.48`	`TheMahmoud`	`bertrand^, so depending on the protocol, some work fine behind PAT and some don't?`
`11:22.05`	`tzafrir`	`for starters, the sample zapata.conf`
`11:22.30`	`bertrand^`	`Mavvie, what was your solution?`
`11:22.40`	`Mavvie`	`bertrand^: I recall it have to do with the way you specify your spanmap.`
`11:22.44`	`Mavvie`	`spanmap => 1,1`
`11:22.56`	`Mavvie`	`instead of the three digit version.`
`11:23.05`	`Mavvie`	`in zapata.conf. can you you check if you have that?`
`11:23.11`	`bertrand^`	`zapata.conf:spanmap => 1,1`
`11:23.12`	`JT`	`spanmap is only for NFAS iirc`
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`11:23.52`	`JT`	`Mavvie: unless he uses NFAS he won't need spanmap at all`
`11:24.06`	`Mavvie`	`JT: that's how we resolved it.`
`11:24.07`	`JT`	`bertrand^: fractional PRI or full E1, T1, what?`
`11:24.15`	`Mavvie`	`can't help it...`
`11:24.16`	`JT`	`Mavvie: did you have multiple pris?`
`11:24.29`	`Mavvie`	`JT: one single PRI, one dual PRI.`
`11:24.31`	`bertrand^`	`JT, full PRI E1`
`11:24.42`	`bertrand^`	`using a Digium TE110P`
`11:24.46`	`JT`	`Mavvie: makes sense, you probably needed NFAS then`
`11:24.50`	`JT`	`Mavvie: he only has 1 E1`
`11:24.51`	`Mavvie`	`aha :-)`
`11:25.04`	`Mavvie`	`JT: true, but the symptons were the same.`
`11:25.13`	`JT`	`Non Facility Attached Signalling is for sharing D channels amongst multiple pri circuits`
`11:25.17`	`bertrand^`	`which is cabled to my provider's cisco 2800 using a E1 crossed cable`
`11:25.30`	`Mavvie`	`maybe I wrote something in my weblog about it. moment.`
`11:25.42`	`JT`	`bertrand^: you don't need spanmap`
`11:26.39`	`JT`	`bertrand^: what happens when you try and make a call?`
`11:26.54`	`JT`	`Mavvie: i didn't notice phone problems earlier today, but word has it much of optus phone network landline and mobile was down nationally`
`11:27.05`	`bertrand^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.05`	`bertrand^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.05`	`bertrand^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.05`	`bertrand^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.05`	`bertrand^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.05`	`bertrand^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.07`	`bertrand^`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:27.40`	`Mavvie`	`JT: interesting... that could mean our VoIP provider uses Optus :-)`
`11:27.52`	`JT`	`Mavvie: did you have total loss of service?`
`11:28.02`	`bertrand^`	`is there something wrong there?`
`11:29.19`	`bertrand^`	`so, now, my provider (Colt) says it is hang up because i specify a channel when making a call, and i don't specify one`
`11:29.19`	`Mavvie`	`JT: I personally didn't, but the ported numbers which goes through the PSTN via them to us didn't work.`
`11:29.29`	`bertrand^`	`i'm not sure that's possible`
`11:29.29`	`JT`	`hmm`
`11:29.50`	`JT`	`bertrand^: sorry that doesn't make sense`
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`11:30.11`	`bertrand^`	`:s/i don't specify one/i have not to specify one/`
`11:30.41`	`bertrand^`	`not sure if i'm clear here :)`
`11:31.05`	`bertrand^`	`i specify a channel for making a call, using g1 G1 r1 or R1 (all failed)`
`11:31.26`	`bertrand^`	`my provider aske me _not_ to specify a channel when making a call`
`11:31.34`	`JT`	`ask you provider how you're meant to magically make calls without specifying a channel`
`11:31.38`	`JT`	`sounds like provider is shit`
`11:31.39`	`tzafrir`	`did you specify group=1 (or 1,whatever) for any channel?`
`11:32.00`	`JT`	`bertrand^: put zaptel.conf and zapata.conf in pastebin.ca`
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`11:33.43`	`kieran491`	`when somthing is unreachable in iax2 show peers dose that mean it cant connect to the server or is some login info incorrect or somthing?`
`11:33.46`	`bertrand^`	`zaptel.conf: http://www.pastebin.ca/374213`
`11:34.03`	`Mavvie`	`can't find my adventures...`
`11:34.38`	`ThoMe`	`hiho :-)`
`11:35.13`	`bertrand^`	`zapata.conf: http://www.pastebin.ca/374214`
`11:35.24`	`bertrand^`	`what about zapata-channels.conf ?`
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`11:36.08`	`JT`	`no, it doesn't appear to be included`
`11:36.09`	`JT`	`delete`
`11:36.10`	`JT`	`[trunkgroups]`
`11:36.11`	`JT`	`trunkgroup => 1,16`
`11:36.11`	`JT`	`spanmap => 1,1`
`11:37.32`	`Mavvie`	`+4 ?`
`11:37.34`	`Mavvie`	`oh`
`11:37.35`	`Mavvie`	`+44`
`11:37.45`	`Makenshi`	`*.uk`
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`11:43.20`	`bertrand^`	`JT, works!`
`11:43.28`	`bertrand^`	`many thanx`
`11:43.46`	`JT`	`nice :)`
`11:44.23`	`Mavvie`	`hah!`
`11:44.37`	`JT`	`btw, your provider's explanation that you musn't specify a channel was wrong and make no sense`
`11:44.40`	`bertrand^`	`two weeks to track down the problem, and you solve it in less than 5 minutes`
`11:44.59`	`bertrand^`	`JT, true`
`11:45.41`	`JT`	`bertrand^: as a rule, it is better to start of with a blank config file than one full of unknown options`
`11:46.50`	`bertrand^`	`the fact is that i used config files i used for an E1 of another provider`
`11:46.58`	`bertrand^`	`single PRI E1 too`
`11:47.09`	`bertrand^`	`and trunkgroup never made any problem there`
`11:47.19`	`JT`	`fluke`
`11:47.39`	`Mavvie`	`JT: not really. it's the way the data channel gets setup.`
`11:47.50`	`Mavvie`	`JT: some providers supply the number of the channel they want.`
`11:47.53`	`Mavvie`	`JT: others don't.`
`11:48.10`	`JT`	`what?`
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`11:49.47`	`bertrand^`	`i think i should remove the trunkgroup from my other configuration too, just in case`
`11:50.10`	`Mavvie`	`it's implicit vs explicit channel, you see them in for example the CALL PROCEEEDING messages:`
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`11:50.15`	`JT`	`Mavvie: the only place i have EVER seen [trunkgroups], spanmap, etc used, is NFAS, and that is specifically what the documentation states they're for`
`11:50.16`	`Mavvie`	`< Channel ID (len= 5) [ Ext: 1 IntID: Implicit, PRI Spare: 0, Exclusive Dchan: 0`
`11:50.36`	`Mavvie`	`< ChanSel: Reserved`
`11:50.37`	`Mavvie`	`< Ext: 1 Coding: 0 Number Specified Channel Type: 3`
`11:50.37`	`Mavvie`	`< Ext: 1 Channel: 12 ]`
`11:50.53`	`Mavvie`	`we saw this first when we moved from Telstra to AAPT.`
`11:51.18`	`JT`	`aapt must have a faulty setup if you need to setup NFAS on a solitary E1`
`11:52.40`	`tutt9876`	`hi, got a problem to dial name@sipdomain.com with a Dial(SIP/name@??): I just can catch name but not sipdomain: you know the right Asterisk $variable for this?`
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`11:54.24`	`tutt9876`	`I have tried exten => _[a-z0-9].@[a-z0-9] but it only match _[a-z0-9] and not the end of the patern: @[a-z0-9].`
`11:54.54`	`tutt9876`	`any help?`
`11:55.46`	`Makenshi`	`tutt9876, yes..`
`11:55.53`	`Makenshi`	`http://pastebin.ca/327878`
`11:55.59`	`Makenshi`	`look at the context 'default'`
`11:56.26`	`JT`	`tutt9876: there's a variable specifically for sip domain`
`11:56.30`	`JT`	`i think it's obviously named`
`11:56.44`	`JT`	`it's in README.variables in your docs directory in the source`
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`11:58.18`	`tutt9876`	`Makenshi: I just looked at the pastbin, but $SIPDOMAIN only gives the domain of your proxy not the one of a sip addres to join`
`12:00.16`	`TheMahmoud`	`where can I find asterisk-sounds package?`
`12:00.51`	`Makenshi`	`tutt9876, no, $SIPDOMAIN is the called domain`
`12:01.01`	`Mahmoud`	`i can't find the sounds package here ftp://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk`
`12:01.11`	`Mahmoud`	`according to the PDF book, it should be there :/`
`12:01.27`	`tutt9876`	`sure? it failed with my tries`
`12:01.48`	`Makenshi`	`tutt9876, well, unless these past few years i've been dreaming all those sip calls i've made`
`12:02.23`	`tutt9876`	`ok thanks: will try again..`
`12:05.51`	`Mahmoud`	`_any_ >one< knows where to find the sounds package :/`
`12:07.06`	`nop45`	`I find it this way -- $find / -name sounds`
`12:07.35`	`Mahmoud`	`ah found it, not there`
`12:07.36`	`Mahmoud`	`ftp://ftp.digium.com/pub/asterisk/releases/`
`12:07.47`	`Mahmoud`	`the pdf file should be updated =]`
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`12:08.44`	`Mahmoud`	`should the voice package match the asterisk package? no?`
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`12:23.33`	`nop45`	`thanks, Mahmoud thats some more sounds that I didn't already have. 1.2.1 = 3 mesgs of sounds`
`12:28.20`	`Mahmoud`	`np nop45`
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`12:50.47`	`xheliox`	`Playing with the latest 1.4 svn checkout, voice mail messages are being e-mailed out, but the attachment is screwy (not displaying as an attachment).... any thoughts?`
`12:53.33`	`blitzrage`	`xheliox: can you try prior to revision 56341 and see if that helps?`
`12:53.59`	`blitzrage`	`if it fixes it -- then I'll get you to post a bug to the bug tracker (Russell made some changes to the email stuff in r56341)`
`12:54.45`	`xheliox`	`blitzrage: I'll try, though I'm not much of a svn person, how do you go back to a previous revision?`
`12:55.05`	`xheliox`	`I suppose that's why god invented man pages.`
`12:55.16`	`blitzrage`	`svn co -r 56300 http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/branches/1.4 asterisk-1.4-r56300`
`12:55.19`	`blitzrage`	`that should do it`
`12:55.29`	`blitzrage`	`if I remember from memory correctly :)`
`12:55.56`	`blitzrage`	`hey! #asterisk-doc is a fun channel! :)`
`12:56.12`	`hotshot`	`hi, 2nd try: I have some trouble with asterisk 1.4, musiconhold and queues. A queue only plays the default musicclass. has anyone a clue?`
`12:56.48`	`blitzrage`	`hotshot: it only plays the default music class because you didn't tell it to play a different music class`
`12:57.01`	`xheliox`	`That seems to be doing the trick blitzrage, I'll let you know momentarily :)`
`12:57.40`	`blitzrage`	`hotshot: see --> ;musicclass = default`
`12:57.44`	`blitzrage`	`in queue.conf`
`13:00.28`	`hotshot`	`blitzrage: I tried music / musicclass / musiconhold in queues.conf but no success`
`13:00.45`	`hotshot`	`blitzrage: Set(MUSICCLASS()=tst) and WaitMusicOnhold() works fine.`
`13:01.24`	`xheliox`	`blitzrage: heh, when I use that revision, I got a compile error with codec_zap ;)`
`13:02.44`	`blitzrage`	`hotshot: hrmmm... that should really work -- although I haven't tested in the flat file as I keep my queues in realtime. You tried a reload at the very least after changing that, and also a _restart now_ just to verify it's not a reload issue?`
`13:03.21`	`blitzrage`	`hotshot: you're also putting this into a queue definition and not in the [general] section right?`
`13:04.11`	`hotshot`	`blitzrage: yes, I restartet asterisk. and it's in a queue definition.`
`13:04.14`	`blitzrage`	`hotshot: if all of that is true... you may consider filing a bug with console output, relevant parts of your configuration, and an explanaition of what is happening, and what you expect to happen`
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`13:05.03`	`blitzrage`	`hotshot: first -- post that information to a pastebin and see and verify with someone in this room that it's not a configuration issue`
`13:05.29`	`blitzrage`	`xheliox: post the error to pastebin -- you might also just want to disable that module for now to test the email stuff`
`13:06.31`	`xheliox`	`yeah, I just deselected -- the error already scroll out of my buffer, sorry.`
`13:06.42`	`xheliox`	`scrolled*`
`13:07.32`	`blitzrage`	`shift+pgup`
`13:07.48`	`xheliox`	`I said it scrolled out of my buffer. :p`
`13:07.53`	`xheliox`	`Not off my screen.`
`13:07.57`	`xheliox`	`:)`
`13:08.05`	`blitzrage`	`oh I see`
`13:08.10`	`blitzrage`	`up your buffer!`
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`13:09.03`	`xheliox`	`It's not the size of the buffer, but how you use it.`
`13:09.34`	`Makenshi`	`I'll show you my buffer..`
`13:09.42`	`xheliox`	`Please don't?`
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`13:10.31`	`blitzrage`	`xheliox: only people with short buffers say that`
`13:11.03`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: I've bitten the bullet and downgraded several remote boxes I administrate to 1.4 from trunk`
`13:11.15`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooO!`
`13:11.20`	`tzanger`	`yeah`
`13:11.23`	`tzanger`	`unfortunately`
`13:11.27`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: you were my hero for running trunk -- stupid g.729`
`13:11.45`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: although it seems from rumour here that trunk is generally more stable than 1.4`
`13:11.50`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`13:11.52`	`tzanger`	`oh I stull run trunk`
`13:11.53`	`tzanger`	`er still`
`13:12.09`	`tzanger`	`just on boxes that I have no dependence on g729`
`13:12.09`	`blitzrage`	`maybe 1.4 is gonna be one of those "throw away" releases....`
`13:12.34`	`blitzrage`	`although I'm doing all my development on 1.4 right now....`
`13:12.43`	`blitzrage`	`trying to get this project done by end of next week`
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`13:13.08`	`KnowWhat`	`how can i set the port for the sip server`
`13:13.13`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: you used OpenSER yet?`
`13:13.17`	`KnowWhat`	`in my asterisk box`
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`13:13.22`	`blitzrage`	`KnowWhat: port=`
`13:13.55`	`blitzrage`	`KnowWhat: please read the sample files... they are extremely handy -- and sip.conf.sample is one of the better documented sample files`
`13:13.59`	`blitzrage`	`coppice: oh snap`
`13:14.48`	`xheliox`	`Not if you share.`
`13:14.59`	`xheliox`	`It's my birthday tomorrow, I figure it's a good time to start a 3 or 4 day binge.`
`13:15.06`	`blitzrage`	`makes sense to me`
`13:15.12`	`blitzrage`	`no way I could drink that many days in a row though`
`13:15.22`	`KnowWhat`	`blitzrage: ok, but i have a voip provider who is giving out services on sip port 8891`
`13:15.27`	`xheliox`	`blitzrage: Russell broke e-mail attachments. I hope you beat him.`
`13:15.48`	`blitzrage`	`KnowWhat: so do what I just said`
`13:16.00`	`blitzrage`	`xheliox: nice -- I'll scold him, lol`
`13:16.18`	`KnowWhat`	`blitzrage: doing it buddy`
`13:16.23`	`xheliox`	`No, I want physical bruises, dammit.`
`13:16.36`	`blitzrage`	`xheliox: lol... oh, talk to file then`
`13:18.17`	`xheliox`	`blitzrage: I don't know it's worth that!`
`13:18.55`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: hahaha`
`13:19.31`	`blitzrage`	`;)`
`13:20.08`	`blitzrage`	`man this documentation for pgcluster is looooong`
`13:20.26`	`tzanger`	`pgcluster? What're you up to?`
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`13:22.56`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: all sorts of majik :)`
`13:23.42`	`blitzrage`	`redundant Asterisk cluster`
`13:23.42`	`blitzrage`	`with OpenSER`
`13:23.42`	`blitzrage`	`which is also redundant with heartbeat`
`13:24.09`	`tzanger`	`heh awesome beer launching fridge`
`13:24.14`	`tzanger`	`dude uses miller lite though.. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww`
`13:24.18`	`blitzrage`	`gross`
`13:24.23`	`blitzrage`	`get a real beer`
`13:24.26`	`tzanger`	`I'd drink 50 or Black Label before I'd touch that or Bud`
`13:24.40`	`blitzrage`	`Labatt Ice!`
`13:24.44`	`tzanger`	`oh lord`
`13:24.45`	`blitzrage`	`it's like 7.1%`
`13:25.02`	`blitzrage`	`you buy a 1.5L bottle of that, and you're pretty good`
`13:25.03`	`tzanger`	`Export for me, or Waterloo Dark, hell if I'm feeling continental I'll drink Tsingtao`
`13:25.06`	`hotshot`	`blitzrage: here is an excerpt from my configuration: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=889905`
`13:25.08`	`tzanger`	`I don't drink beer to get drunk`
`13:25.12`	`tzanger`	`I drink rye to get drunk`
`13:25.12`	`blitzrage`	`I love Tsingtao`
`13:25.12`	`tzanger`	`or gin`
`13:25.18`	`blitzrage`	`gin is gross`
`13:25.19`	`tzanger`	`although gin makes me surly in a hurry`
`13:25.30`	`tzanger`	`yes tsingtao is good`
`13:25.34`	`tzanger`	`it's light and clean I love it`
`13:25.37`	`tzanger`	`tusker is pretty good too`
`13:25.40`	`tzanger`	`dab isn't bad`
`13:25.45`	`cpm`	`take a 12oz miller lite bottle, set in the back window of the car in summertime for a month, BING! Instant heiniken`
`13:26.01`	`blitzrage`	`the Amsterdam brewery is visible from my window (one block away)`
`13:26.02`	`tzanger`	`cpm: hahahaha`
`13:26.05`	`blitzrage`	`so I just go there :)`
`13:26.07`	`hotshot`	`Oh yeah, I also like Tsingtao`
`13:26.19`	`blitzrage`	`cpm: lol`
`13:26.29`	`tzanger`	`damn I installed 1.4 on a box and it crashed hard overnight`
`13:26.33`	`tzanger`	`does not bode well`
`13:26.42`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: don't be telling me that shiznit`
`13:27.15`	`blitzrage`	`cpm: just smoke weed then I guess`
`13:27.23`	`blitzrage`	`who said that?!`
`13:27.36`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: haha`
`13:27.37`	`blitzrage`	`cpm: you're like the girl I'm dating :)`
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`13:27.47`	`blitzrage`	`she's allergic to everything`
`13:27.53`	`cpm`	`besides, 'they' punched out the last hole in my ration card many years ago`
`13:28.08`	`cpm`	`used my allotment`
`13:28.23`	`xheliox`	`blitzrage: bug submitted, thanks for your help, as always. :)`
`13:28.30`	`cpm`	`blitzrage, not so allergic, just no good will come of it.`
`13:28.34`	`cpm`	`:)`
`13:28.52`	`blitzrage`	`xheliox: I've helped before? what are the odds? :)`
`13:28.56`	`cpm`	`One it too many, all itsn't enough`
`13:29.02`	`blitzrage`	`cpm: ahhh, I see :)`
`13:29.36`	`cpm`	`:)`
`13:30.04`	`cpm`	`Like the man said, when ya get runned over by a train, it ain't the caboose that kills ya`
`13:30.17`	`tzanger`	`cpm: eh?`
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`13:31.19`	`dorel__`	`I installed asterisk for debian (sid/unstable) and I'm missing the format_mp3.so library, which package did I forget to install?`
`13:31.32`	`xheliox`	`blitzrage: Well, maybe not me, but in general, and for working on Asterisk. Take a frickin compliment, would ya? ;)`
`13:31.34`	`dorel__`	`I went over available asterisk related packages and maybe I'm missing it.`
`13:31.47`	`blitzrage`	`xheliox: lol -- you don't know me well enough I guess :)`
`13:32.06`	`blitzrage`	`I'm a major PITA`
`13:32.18`	`blitzrage`	`hrmmm... now I'm hungry for a pita`
`13:32.21`	`xheliox`	`what developers aren't?`
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`13:35.22`	`blitzrage`	`file: sick'm!`
`13:36.00`	`tzanger`	`http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=224292&cid=18162934`
`13:36.02`	`tzanger`	`I love it`
`13:36.20`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: I don't want to know your nam!`
`13:36.26`	`blitzrage`	`s/nam!/name!`
`13:36.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage: I just want ...`
`13:36.45`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: if you had his NAM all you'd need was his MIN and ESN and you could clone his phone`
`13:36.55`	`blitzrage`	`! ! !`
`13:37.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage: zomfgz?!@`
`13:37.19`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: you should come to it360/Linuxworld!`
`13:37.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: Thats right.... afraid the world will clone another Hitler, Ghengis Khan, or Nero? No fear the day they clone ME!`
`13:37.57`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: you're scarier than all of those pussies`
`13:38.00`	`blitzrage`	`I 2nd the motion`
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`13:41.32`	`creature_`	`just converted my old extenions.conf to extensions.ael, ael is so much better for advanced usage :)`
`13:42.02`	`tzanger`	`I don't think I'll move off it until I can do entire dialplans in python or something`
`13:42.35`	`creature_`	`tzanger: that would be great aswell`
`13:44.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creature_: Anything that might prompt me to think about AEL probably screams more like AGI to me...`
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`13:52.01`	`xheliox`	`lol`
`13:52.07`	`xheliox`	`That's an awesome quite message.`
`13:52.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xheliox: Yeah, in as much as I am an * consultant I try not to drag a line behind the boat when I go....`
`13:53.25`	`xheliox`	`Yeah, well, you're a Canadian, right?`
`13:53.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xheliox: Indeed.`
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`13:53.43`	`xheliox`	`You guys aren't trained in the art of being a whore.`
`13:54.05`	`\|Vulture\|`	`owch`
`13:54.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xheliox: Thats right.... we don't charge .... we're SLUTS :D`
`13:54.20`	`xheliox`	`lol`
`13:54.28`	`xheliox`	`Ruining our economy in the process. Dirty Canadians.`
`13:54.54`	`xheliox`	`Ya know, I bought 24 Polycom 430's the other day, had 3 DOA.. thought that was highly abnormal.`
`13:54.56`	`\|Vulture\|`	`yea next thing you know we will have to build a wall up north! lol`
`13:55.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xheliox: Celine Dion will destroy you all!! Vegas is only the beginning!`
`13:55.04`	`\|Vulture\|`	`jk of course`
`13:55.16`	`xheliox`	`that's not even funny.`
`13:55.40`	`coppice`	`celine dion is a messanger from hell`
`13:55.58`	`blitzrage`	`I can think of about 3 reasons other than us Canadians being sluts as to why your economy is going down the tubes :)`
`13:56.24`	`blitzrage`	`exchange rate sucks right now`
`13:56.33`	`blitzrage`	`doesn't even pay for my taxes!`
`13:56.34`	`xheliox`	`Sure, but blaming Canada is always easy and usually fun.`
`13:56.58`	`iCEBrkr`	`hrrm`
`13:57.03`	`\|Vulture\|`	`do they use E1 in Canada?`
`13:57.03`	`iCEBrkr`	`What's up sluts`
`13:57.09`	`xheliox`	`No.`
`13:57.16`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`13:57.18`	`blitzrage`	`no, we use T1`
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`13:57.26`	`blitzrage`	`if we were smart we'd use E1`
`13:57.36`	`sweeper`	`iCEBrkr: roadtrip north \o\`
`13:58.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`sweeper: You too?`
`13:58.04`	`coppice`	`if you were smart celine dion would have been declared illegal for some obscure reason`
`13:58.29`	`iCEBrkr`	`sweeper: Head'n up to Daytona for Bikeweek this weekend.`
`13:58.29`	`xheliox`	`or can't you send her to Iraq as an Ambassador or something?`
`13:58.31`	`blitzrage`	`umm... fuck.... don't format a box with your only working openser.cfg file`
`13:58.43`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: what? no back up?`
`13:58.53`	`xheliox`	`iCEBrkr: Sweet. I'll be there to.`
`13:58.57`	`blitzrage`	`iCEBrkr: there has to be one around here somewhere.... but it might be a bit out of date`
`13:59.00`	`coppice`	`send her to iraq for target practice`
`13:59.01`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: Don't ya take something like that and scp it across all your boxes for safe keeping?`
`13:59.09`	`iCEBrkr`	`xheliox: cool`
`13:59.15`	`sweeper`	`I meant north to canada to trap some wild beaver ;) ;)`
`13:59.15`	`JT`	`i remember some oriely book talking about backups and stuff`
`13:59.16`	`blitzrage`	`iCEBrkr: usually... but this was on a development box`
`13:59.23`	`blitzrage`	`JT: yah... funny that stuff :)`
`13:59.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: Ahh yes, I know how that goes`
`13:59.41`	`creature_`	`gl :)`
`14:00.05`	`blitzrage`	`I have a tshirt that says I'm an official cougar hunter`
`14:00.19`	`iCEBrkr`	`whoohoo! I got a quarterly bonus!`
`14:00.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice: She's our Geneva Convention back-door. Behold our Weapon of Musical Destruction!`
`14:00.53`	`\|Vulture\|`	`is NI1 still commonly used in the US? All my T1 installs have been NI2 except for this one`
`14:00.54`	`coppice`	`sorry, I don't get the connection between music and celine dion`
`14:00.57`	`creature_`	`god, compiling asterisk on my 200mhz 23mbram 3gb hdd right now.. this IS going to take "a while" :D`
`14:01.00`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: I've had too many machines take a shit on me, I copy configs to all of my boxes and even different drives anymore... Call me paranoid.`
`14:01.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage: All of my ex's were older.....`
`14:01.19`	`blitzrage`	`iCEBrkr: well usually I keep everything in SVN... I just had a brain fart yesterday`
`14:01.36`	`blitzrage`	`that's what happens when you do 5 things at once`
`14:01.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice: Understandable. Thats how she bypasses border checks.`
`14:01.47`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: hrmm... I'd say I'm about 50/50`
`14:01.50`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: haha, yea, been there, dont that`
`14:01.51`	`iCEBrkr`	`err`
`14:01.52`	`iCEBrkr`	`done that`
`14:02.07`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: girl I'm dating now is 4 months older than me :)`
`14:02.28`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: Really sucks when you're cleaning up temp files.. rm *~ and you miss the ~`
`14:02.36`	`blitzrage`	`hrmmm... no openser.cfg, no idea where Paul put the database conversion... so I guess I get to hang out until someone comes online :)`
`14:02.40`	`coppice`	`I guess she could be imprisoned for fraud if she gives her profession as entertainer`
`14:02.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage: My 2nd to last had 6 years on me....`
`14:03.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: hehe, see, you're supposed to post your stuff up on pastebin or even on the wiki, that way you have a back up. LOL`
`14:03.12`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: they are friskier that way :)`
`14:03.18`	`blitzrage`	`iCEBrkr: lol`
`14:03.32`	`blitzrage`	`iCEBrkr: funny enough, I do have a copy in a wiki`
`14:03.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`blitzrage: Yeah, goota love women who know what they want and go for it.`
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`14:03.38`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`14:03.43`	`blitzrage`	`[TK]D-Fender: I love aggressive women`
`14:03.46`	`iCEBrkr`	`[TK]D-Fender: That's crazy talk`
`14:05.24`	`blitzrage`	`you can smack'm around a bit and they like it (in a playful way)`
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`14:05.24`	`iCEBrkr`	`blitzrage: Yea, up until the point you got a heal in your face`
`14:05.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`err heel even`
`14:05.25`	`blitzrage`	`iCEBrkr: even better`
`14:05.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`I can't believe I missed the conference in Ft. Lauderdale.`
`14:05.25`	`iCEBrkr`	`d0celmo called me and said he was in town, but I didn't have time to make it over there.. Grrrr`
`14:05.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr: Remind of me of 1 girl in my martial arts class. I've got to be about a foot taller than her, and with a katana she can still run me around the dojo. Thats HAWT.`
`14:06.06`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`14:06.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`iCEBrkr: Real cute, but so reserved. Its a shame. Like a 1000 watt bulb underneath a concrete shade...`
`14:07.51`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`14:07.53`	`iCEBrkr`	`wow`
`14:09.56`	`tzanger`	`hmm`
`14:10.05`	`tzanger`	`rm -rf /var/lib/asterisk/sounds ; mkdir /var/lib/asterisk/sounds`
`14:10.11`	`tzanger`	`then in the 1.4 src dir, make install`
`14:10.24`	`tzanger`	`it installs all the english sounds to /var/lib/asterisk/sounds, and creates empty fr and es directories`
`14:10.31`	`tzanger`	`by didn't it put the english sounds in /en ?`
`14:11.16`	`blitzrage`	`not in 1.4`
`14:11.18`	`blitzrage`	`that's a trunk thing`
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`14:11.58`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: but trunk created /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/es and /fr`
`14:11.58`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm not sure I like the new sound files. Or maybe it's the voicemail app. The pause between sounds is too long`
`14:13.05`	`blitzrage`	`tzanger: uh huh.... ?`
`14:13.16`	`blitzrage`	`basically, you're not gonna get a /en subdir in 1.4`
`14:13.29`	`tzanger`	`so 1.4 puts english in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds and fr/es in other directories?`
`14:13.42`	`blitzrage`	`yes`
`14:13.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: Silly question. Because * was created in USA and of course are the Center Of The Universe. Everything and everyone else is PERIPHERAL.`
`14:13.59`	`blitzrage`	`I think in re: to the /fr and /es`
`14:14.04`	`blitzrage`	`I know only trunk uses /en`
`14:15.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: Much like mt company's head office (in CT) manages our North American Lotus Notes network, we all have a sharde Address Book. In there is naturally a "Company" field. Their entries are left BLANK.`
`14:15.41`	`tzanger`	`blitzrage: ahh okay`
`14:15.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: Because clearly they ARE the company, no matter how many mutinations owned divisions there are each with their own brand`
`14:15.57`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: hahaha`
`14:16.03`	`tzanger`	`bitter? :-)`
`14:16.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: No, their ignorance and short-sightedness only fuels my already bolsterous God Complex :)`
`14:17.05`	`iCEBrkr`	`haha`
`14:17.31`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Hey guys, I am trying to turnup a PRI and I keep getting "Primary D-Channel on span 1 up" 4 times, then "WARNING[6894]: chan_zap.c:2438 pri_find_dchan: No D-channels available! Using Primary channel 24 as D-channel anyway!"`
`14:18.04`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: that's fine, everyone needs one of those`
`14:18.08`	`\|Vulture\|`	`bad cable... bad config on telco side, bad config on my side?`
`14:18.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`\|Vulture\|: YES.`
`14:18.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`(I've got to be right SOMEWHERE in there)`
`14:18.55`	`\|Vulture\|`	`come on :P`
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`14:21.21`	`Geert`	`small question, I have this extension "exten => 24006111", now that works for external conversations (vrom the PRA/PRI), now incomming IAX2 calls are 024006111`
`14:21.26`	`Geert`	`so can I do something like`
`14:21.33`	`Geert`	`"exten => [0]24006111"`
`14:21.37`	`Geert`	`is that possible?`
`14:21.54`	`Geert`	`where the 0 is optional`
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`14:22.18`	`iCEBrkr`	`Geert: I shortcut stuff like that with a Goto() :P`
`14:23.07`	`iCEBrkr`	`I have a primary inbound context for my local number. then I have other voip providers with different DIDs (obviously) that I just have Goto() my local context`
`14:23.10`	`iCEBrkr`	`<- lazy`
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`14:25.01`	`Geert`	`hmmmz, I can solve it otherwise (the goal is to combine lots of PRA/PRI's, so read 'peering)`
`14:25.04`	`Geert`	`exten => _0240061XX, 1, Dial(IAX2/benesol/${EXTEN})`
`14:25.11`	`Geert`	`is that I use on pra1 to dial pra2`
`14:25.23`	`Geert`	`so what I want is`
`14:25.35`	`Geert`	`exten => _0240061XX, 1, Dial(IAX2/benesol/STRIP-THE-LEADING-0${EXTEN})`
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`14:27.59`	`Geert`	`is that possible or not?`
`14:30.56`	`Geert`	`nm, I've got it :)`
`14:31.01`	`creature_`	`:1`
`14:31.03`	`Geert`	`${EXTEN:1}`
`14:31.08`	`creature_`	`yeah, thats right :)`
`14:31.11`	`Geert`	`thanks anyway creature_ :)`
`14:31.13`	`Geert`	`google++ :)`
`14:31.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`hehe`
`14:31.18`	`creature_`	`is teh friend :`
`14:31.19`	`creature_`	`:)`
`14:32.31`	`TaiSHi`	`Hello everyone`
`14:32.41`	`TaiSHi`	`I'd like to start testing Asterisk`
`14:32.50`	`TaiSHi`	`How can I 'simulate' an incoming call ?`
`14:32.55`	`TaiSHi`	`(from a provider, ie)`
`14:33.15`	`iCEBrkr`	`TaiSHi: Get a SIP softphone or something`
`14:33.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`I recommend ExpressTalk`
`14:33.37`	`TaiSHi`	`Boss wont let me start using them until I get something 'working' :P`
`14:33.39`	`TaiSHi`	`Oh`
`14:33.44`	`TaiSHi`	`Yeah, I've got softphones`
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`14:34.21`	`TaiSHi`	`Things is, 'how' do I simulate it ?`
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`14:35.33`	`blitzrage`	`you can't use a softphone until you can simulate Asterisk accepting a call?`
`14:35.39`	`blitzrage`	`that makes no sense -- you use the softphone to simulate the call`
`14:35.50`	`blitzrage`	`or you use something like SIPp I guess -- but that's siginfically more overhead and work`
`14:35.56`	`blitzrage`	`sounds like Boss needs Clue`
`14:36.22`	`creature_`	`TaiSHi: you could just create an extension for a number.. ie 333 and make that your simulated incoming call`
`14:36.31`	`iCEBrkr`	`I'm with blitzrage on this one`
`14:36.33`	`creature_`	`TaiSHi: then dial 333 with your SIP Client`
`14:36.51`	`creature_`	`guess thats what you meant`
`14:36.51`	`blitzrage`	`or you could setup 2 asterisk boxes, then call into box 1, then have box 1 send a call to box 2`
`14:37.00`	`blitzrage`	`then you have a trunk setup`
`14:37.21`	`creature_`	`or.. you could have 2 clients and make incoming call forwarded to the other client by asterisk`
`14:37.22`	`blitzrage`	`but from the viewpoint of Asterisk, a softphone is basically doing the same thing as if it were coming from a provider`
`14:37.24`	`hotshot`	`blitzrage: I solved my problem with queues always playing the default musicclass. I had to put an musicclass= into my misdn.conf.`
`14:37.29`	`TaiSHi`	`Sorry if I don't answer quickly, I'm @ work :(`
`14:40.11`	`\|Vulture\|`	`Can anyone ping switch-03.asterlink.com ?`
`14:40.53`	`jojo^`	`Works from here`
`14:41.01`	`cpatry`	`works here too.`
`14:41.06`	`\|Vulture\|`	`kk thanx seems like it just wasn't resolving for me`
`14:41.09`	`yonahw-work`	`works here`
`14:41.19`	`\|Vulture\|`	`good then it was me :)`
`14:41.50`	`cpatry`	`vulture: 208.64.201.13 until ur dns resolves.`
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`14:43.51`	`my007ms`	`hello all`
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`14:44.38`	`my007ms`	`i use asterisk to VOIP with SIP can i use Video also`
`14:44.57`	`my007ms`	`i mean free plugin in asterisk to make call use vadio`
`14:46.00`	`Ahrimanes`	`asterisk can do video eys`
`14:46.01`	`Ahrimanes`	`yes`
`14:46.27`	`Ahrimanes`	`everything needed should be in the standard package`
`14:48.01`	`my007ms`	`and what is the package name`
`14:48.08`	`my007ms`	`:)`
`14:48.17`	`HarryR`	`video's just dependant on the client sides, with asterisk having very little to do with video`
`14:48.52`	`HarryR`	`go and get two sip phones which can do video chat and see if you can make video calls through an existing asterisk server`
`14:49.08`	`my007ms`	`so the video will be client <-->client not client>>asterisk>>>client`
`14:49.23`	`HarryR`	`yeah`
`14:49.39`	`my007ms`	`HarryR, i want to test with softphone first`
`14:49.41`	`HarryR`	`unless asterisk is doing rtp forwarding or something, but even then it's just forwarding packets`
`14:50.25`	`my007ms`	`i will use http://www.xten.com/`
`14:50.25`	`bkw_`	`\|Vulture\|, how can I be of assistance?`
`14:50.47`	`HarryR`	`ah, I was going to suggest eyeBeam`
`14:51.03`	`blitzrage`	`my007ms: just add: videosupport=yes to sip.conf [general] section`
`14:51.21`	`E-bola`	`anybody here uses the flash operator panel?`
`14:51.21`	`\|Vulture\|`	`bkw_: the problem was on my side, just wanted to make sure all were aware of that`
`14:51.29`	`E-bola`	`Cant u design it graphically in some way?`
`14:51.33`	`my007ms`	`blitzrage, u test this b4`
`14:51.37`	`E-bola`	`designing rectangles etc in a notepad editor is a pain`
`14:51.40`	`blitzrage`	`my007ms: nope`
`14:52.11`	`TaiSHi`	`blitzrage: I ment badly, I can use softphones but I can't use my ITSP`
`14:53.42`	`TaiSHi`	`I'd like to know how to asign an internal number to an extension`
`14:54.38`	`blitzrage`	`TaiSHi: I'd suggest reading some documentation as that is pretty much the first thing most docs show you`
`14:54.53`	`blitzrage`	`~docs`
`14:54.59`	`jbot`	`i guess docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk or http://www.asteriskguru.com`
`14:56.06`	`TaiSHi`	`I'm reading TFOT, but it uses FXO/FXS wich I don't have (yet)`
`14:57.01`	`blitzrage`	`TaiSHi: ummm... read down further`
`14:57.18`	`TaiSHi`	`I'm nearly page 100...`
`14:57.19`	`blitzrage`	`that whole section is going to be better in 2nd Ed.`
`14:57.28`	`blitzrage`	`TaiSHi: there is a section for IAX and SIP -- you want the SIP section`
`14:57.51`	`TaiSHi`	`Around what page, if I may ask`
`14:58.21`	`blitzrage`	`TaiSHi: I don't know... keep flipping or use the TOC`
`14:58.21`	`bkw_`	`\|Vulture\|, ok`
`14:58.25`	`cnet2`	`hi guys, i was wondering.. i have one 2 different links between offices, (2 iax regs), i want to distribute the calls, so if 1 is already in use, i want the nex caller to use the other one. how can i do that?`
`14:58.30`	`blitzrage`	`TaiSHi: it's in the same chapter`
`14:58.46`	`TaiSHi`	`I'm around dialplans`
`14:58.52`	`TaiSHi`	`But I will take al ook again`
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`14:58.54`	`santibiotico`	`hi`
`14:58.55`	`TaiSHi`	`a look*`
`14:59.10`	`santibiotico`	`is anybody using asterfax??`
`15:00.55`	`blitzrage`	`seems logical that someone is using it`
`15:01.06`	`blitzrage`	`santibiotico: best to just ask a specific question :)`
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`15:12.22`	`i3inary`	`hi guys, i was wondering if anyone knows any good databases with agi/php scripts to lookup zipcode`
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`15:13.05`	`i3inary`	`im trying to lookup the zipcode of the ani`
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`15:21.56`	`cpatry`	`no, just write a quick agi that will fetch result from usps?`
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`15:25.40`	`Schreiber1337`	`I have a bizzar problem with Call park. Caller B transfers Caller A to ext 700, system reads back "701", but when Caller B presses "xfer" a second time to complete the procedure, the system hangs up on Caller A...`
`15:26.55`	`Schreiber1337`	`Anyone ever see this?`
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`15:31.30`	`Daejeo1`	`is it possible to install asterisk without installing zaptel and libpri things?`
`15:31.50`	`wunderkin`	`yes`
`15:31.58`	`Daejeo1`	`I tried to do it`
`15:32.06`	`cpatry`	`yes, until you dont need any analog/digital cards.`
`15:32.18`	`Daejeo1`	`wunderkin: i got errors`
`15:32.22`	`Daejeo1`	`i show u`
`15:32.33`	`cpatry`	`~pb`
`15:32.34`	`jbot`	`i heard pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
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`15:33.02`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok can you use sendrpid on an iax channel ?`
`15:33.32`	`file`	`Bobthehunter: no.`
`15:33.33`	`Mahmoud`	`back`
`15:33.42`	`Mahmoud`	`so they changed asterisk and added configure script?`
`15:33.53`	`Mahmoud`	`the PDF i'm reading says there's no "configure"`
`15:34.11`	`cpatry`	`in 1.4, it has now.`
`15:34.18`	`Bobthehunter`	`kk`
`15:34.21`	`Mahmoud`	`i see`
`15:34.45`	`Mahmoud`	`i installed m4, but bison still complains about not having "froozen file support in m4"`
`15:35.23`	`Daejeo1`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/374394`
`15:35.39`	`Daejeo1`	`wunderkin:wunderkin`
`15:35.54`	`Daejeo1`	`i did not install zap things`
`15:35.54`	`cpatry`	`make menuselect and remove chan_zap under channel drivers.`
`15:36.00`	`cpatry`	`since you dont need it.`
`15:36.01`	`ManxPower`	`Daejeo1: you have an old zaptel or libpri ALREADY INSTALLED`
`15:36.14`	`Daejeo1`	`oh`
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`15:37.00`	`angryuser`	`good day ladies and gentelmen;)`
`15:37.12`	`Daejeo1`	`how can i remove?`
`15:37.18`	`Daejeo1`	`i don't need it`
`15:37.21`	`cpatry`	`remove the star in make menuselect`
`15:37.33`	`ManxPower`	`Daejeo1: What verison of Asterisk are you using?`
`15:37.42`	`Daejeo1`	`1.2.10`
`15:38.36`	`penguinFunk`	`use 1.4`
`15:38.40`	`ManxPower`	`Daejeo1: your best bet is to remove /usr/include/linux/zaptel.h`
`15:38.57`	`Mahmoud`	`i'm on freebsd and it says "gnu make" not found :(`
`15:39.06`	`ManxPower`	`Why would anyone want to use the buggy and crashprone 1.4?`
`15:39.29`	`ManxPower`	`Just look at the mailing list archives WRT 1.4`
`15:39.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: Masochism opf course!`
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`15:39.47`	`cpm`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:39.56`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: hm i m using 1.4 never crashed...`
`15:40.22`	`cpatry`	`same here, many of customers were having troubles with 1.2, 1.4 is fine.`
`15:40.24`	`Bobthehunter`	`seem to have lost calleird on iax trunks`
`15:40.25`	`Bobthehunter`	`weird`
`15:40.33`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: youa re luckythen`
`15:40.36`	`wunderkin`	`Mahmoud, install gmake`
`15:40.46`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower:who knows;)`
`15:41.06`	`Schreiber1337`	`I have a bizzar problem with Call park. Caller B transfers Caller A to ext 700, system reads back "701", but when Caller B presses "xfer" a second time to complete the procedure, the system hangs up on Caller A...`
`15:41.12`	`Schreiber1337`	`Any ideas...`
`15:41.19`	`ManxPower`	`Schreiber1337: Using 1.4?`
`15:41.25`	`Schreiber1337`	`Yes.`
`15:41.30`	`file`	`Schreiber1337: 1.4.0?`
`15:41.54`	`ManxPower`	`1.4 has major issues with some types of transfers, seems to happen mostly on Polycom phones, but I don't know if it is limited to that brand`
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`15:41.57`	`Schreiber1337`	`Yes, 1.4.0`
`15:42.06`	`file`	`get 1.4 from SVN, that issue is solved`
`15:42.29`	`cpatry`	`file: i propose the release of 1.4.1, since a lot of problems of this kinds has been fixed.`
`15:42.30`	`Schreiber1337`	`SVN?`
`15:42.41`	`Bobthehunter`	`${CALLERID} is ok ?`
`15:42.43`	`file`	`cpatry: already talked about`
`15:42.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`or i need print noop something else`
`15:42.51`	`cpatry`	`yay!`
`15:42.53`	`brad_mssw`	`that and the fact that people don't know what svn is ;)`
`15:43.01`	`ManxPower`	`Schreiber1337: the developement version of Asterisk -- It is not considered tested enough for release.`
`15:43.05`	`cpatry`	`exact.`
`15:43.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`casue i get blank .. and taht started today.. on ALL iax with no changes wahtsoever`
`15:43.15`	`ManxPower`	`If it was, then it would be released.`
`15:43.26`	`Schreiber1337`	`All, thanks.. I'll give that a try.`
`15:43.29`	`Daejeo1`	`ManxPower: I remove the zaptel.h`
`15:43.43`	`Daejeo1`	`how abt libpri?`
`15:43.55`	`ManxPower`	`Daejeo1: do a "make clean" then "make"`
`15:44.01`	`ManxPower`	`do you still have a problem?`
`15:44.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Bobthehunter: ${CALLERID} as a variable is deprecated. "show function CALLERID"`
`15:44.16`	`Daejeo1`	`i did not try yet`
`15:44.24`	`Daejeo1`	`going to try now`
`15:45.16`	`Bobthehunter`	`yes.. but still.. it worke dlast night`
`15:45.22`	`Bobthehunter`	`and not this monring.. 1.2.14`
`15:45.31`	`ManxPower`	`Bobthehunter: things like that don't "just break"`
`15:46.06`	`Bobthehunter`	`that the thing`
`15:46.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`not sure.. why`
`15:46.19`	`Bobthehunter`	`i added sendrpid on mysip trunks`
`15:46.41`	`ManxPower`	`But "nothing changed"`
`15:47.05`	`Bobthehunter`	`but froIAX CLIENTS -> -> NXX XXX XXXX CALLERID ${CALLERID}`
`15:47.07`	`Bobthehunter`	`shows empty`
`15:47.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`very weird`
`15:47.48`	`ManxPower`	`Bobthehunter: in [general] but context=INVALID and then put the correct context= line for each of the iax.conf sections.`
`15:48.08`	`ManxPower`	`If calls start to fail then the server is not matching the correct [section] in iax.conf`
`15:48.09`	`Bobthehunter`	`they realtime`
`15:48.16`	`ManxPower`	`s/but/put/g`
`15:48.33`	`Bobthehunter`	`[guest]`
`15:48.42`	`ManxPower`	`Bobthehunter: can't help you with realtime`
`15:49.10`	`Bobthehunter`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:49.10`	`Bobthehunter`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:49.15`	`Bobthehunter`	`eb 27 10:49:21 NOTICE[11879]: chan_iax2.c:8760 set_config: Ignoring bindport on reload`
`15:49.20`	`Bobthehunter`	`Feb 27 10:49:21 NOTICE[11879]: iax2-provision.c:515 iax_provision_reload: No IAX provisioning configuration found, IAX provisionin`
`15:49.42`	`ManxPower`	`Bobthehunter: none of those are errors`
`15:49.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`k then that all i gt`
`15:50.04`	`Bobthehunter`	`CALLERID "" CALLERID "" <>""`
`15:50.11`	`Bobthehunter`	`is both CALLEIRD and CALLERID(all)`
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`15:50.58`	`file`	`pastebin an iax2 debug of an incoming call with console output`
`15:51.49`	`creature_`	`Bobthehunter: try NoOp(${CALLERID(num)}); set verbosity level at atleast 3 and see if you can find the callerid in the console output`
`15:52.22`	`_PauloS_`	`coppice, Hi`
`15:52.29`	`coppice`	`hi`
`15:52.32`	`_PauloS_`	`coppice, have anyone complained about frame slips in newer Digiums TE110P ?`
`15:52.39`	`Daejeo1`	`ManxPowe: u r the mane`
`15:52.45`	`coppice`	`not to me`
`15:52.56`	`Daejeo1`	`it worked`
`15:53.17`	`Daejeo1`	`thax mate`
`15:53.20`	`ManxPower`	`Daejeo1: feel free to send a paypal to eric@fnords.org`
`15:53.20`	`_PauloS_`	`newer cards will work only with zaptel 1.4, and fax receiving is not working anymore.`
`15:53.30`	`Daejeo1`	`how much?`
`15:53.56`	`_PauloS_`	`:-(`
`15:54.09`	`Mahmoud`	`any way to install bison? i installed m4 but ./configure bison command stell complains about not having m4`
`15:54.13`	`ManxPower`	`Daejeo1: whatever you think is fair. A good formula is to decide how much money my advice saved you (in time) and send me 1/2 of the amount. However, whatever amount you send will be appreciated.`
`15:54.17`	`Mahmoud`	`checking whether m4 supports frozen files... no`
`15:54.21`	`coppice`	`_PauloS_: has it been changed for RoHS compliance? for some reason several cards have required driver changes to work with the RoHS compliant versions of silicon`
`15:54.25`	`Mahmoud`	`configure: error: GNU M4 1.4 is required`
`15:54.30`	`tuan_modulis`	`hello, was wondering if anyone can help me with a problem: the variable ${DIALEDPEERNUMBER} gives me the extension number of the SIP phone I use. However, when it does call forwarding, I would get another number (the one I forwarded it to). Is there a way to do like a reverse lookup extension number of an agent connected to a particular phone (with DBget maybe)?`
`15:55.36`	`_PauloS_`	`coppice, I dont have datails, but seems they changed some chip related to PCI interface.`
`15:55.58`	`TaiSHi`	`If I set a 'client' in sip.conf and put 'context = XXX'`
`15:56.04`	`TaiSHi`	`And specify XXX in extensions.conf`
`15:56.10`	`TaiSHi`	`As a voice-menu`
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`15:56.21`	`TaiSHi`	`Whenever I call him I will get directed to the vmenu?`
`15:56.26`	`cpatry`	`file: what is the "real" way: core show audio codecs or core show codecs audio ?`
`15:57.03`	`_PauloS_`	`coppice, I'm also geting unical protocol errors every 10 minuts or so`
`15:57.15`	`cpatry`	`core show audio codecs has tabs completion, while to other hasnt and theres a little bug in the 1st one.`
`15:57.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TaiSHi: You don't specif something "as a voice menu". Extensions.conf is just a bunch of extens in contexts. You need to make sure matching context has the proper exten to handle the kind of call coming in.`
`15:57.49`	`TaiSHi`	`I know, I mean if I make up a voice-menu in extensions.conf under the context XXX`
`15:58.22`	`_PauloS_`	`damn digium.`
`15:58.28`	`TaiSHi`	`My main question, simplified, is if context=X on sip.conf will redirect incoming calls to an specified (X) context`
`15:58.29`	`mog`	`?`
`15:58.31`	`Bobthehunter`	`on SIP channels i see it`
`15:58.38`	`Chris-NB`	`hi`
`15:58.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`oon IAXmeaning SIP to me to our`
`15:58.46`	`Chris-NB`	`anyone using mISDN?`
`15:58.48`	`Bobthehunter`	`on iax i dont see callerid`
`15:58.55`	`Chris-NB`	`and establishing data calls?`
`15:59.02`	`Bobthehunter`	`either they all decided to break the callerid implement.. orsomething went wron`
`15:59.40`	`ManxPower`	`Bobthehunter: you decided not to what file asked?`
`15:59.48`	`ManxPower`	`..er..not to do what file asked`
`15:59.50`	`Bobthehunter`	`i did ... nothing yet`
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`15:59.57`	`Bobthehunter`	`need to wait on iax call`
`16:00.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TaiSHi: Yes, thats the point of specifying a context in a device config.`
`16:00.04`	`Bobthehunter`	`but sip calls i see callerid's`
`16:00.15`	`coppice`	`soft-switch.org is back among the living`
`16:00.20`	`Bobthehunter`	`yah!`
`16:00.27`	`Bobthehunter`	`for sswitch`
`16:00.27`	`Bobthehunter`	`;0`
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`16:01.36`	`_PauloS_`	`coppice, given that TE110P are now flawed, would you advice another single E1 boards?`
`16:02.18`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: you are getting your timing from the telco?`
`16:02.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: Explain "now flawed" .....`
`16:02.43`	`angryuser`	`to set a var in any context with the value, i just in to : VAR1=value ?`
`16:03.02`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: no. Set(VAR1=value)`
`16:03.12`	`angryuser`	`not a global, but a local one`
`16:03.12`	`ManxPower`	`on an exten => line`
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`16:03.41`	`angryuser`	`no no, i need it to be set no in scripts just when aster start's`
`16:03.47`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: local variables could also be called "channel or call variables" They must be associated with a call.`
`16:03.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: * has no concept of context-scope. extensions.conf is not a programming language.`
`16:04.20`	`TaiSHi`	`[TK]D-Fender: Thank you, I will bother you again later when I get home :)`
`16:04.40`	`_PauloS_`	`[TK]D-Fender, they only work with zaptel 1.4 and I'm having lots of frame slips.`
`16:05.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: pastebin "cat /proc/interrupts"`
`16:05.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`16:05.04`	`jbot`	`hmm... pb is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`16:05.14`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: hm, i jut need when aster starts in [context] VAR1=0 VAR2=0 or so`
`16:05.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: and thats funny... the TE11p has been out years before * 1.4....`
`16:05.21`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: The TE110P works just fine with Zaptel 1.2`
`16:05.36`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: maybe i should use globals`
`16:05.40`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: you cannot do that`
`16:05.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: Will their values ever change?`
`16:05.53`	`_PauloS_`	`[TK]D-Fender, they changed some chipset`
`16:05.54`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: yes their values will change`
`16:05.54`	`coppice`	`[TK]D-Fender: you aren't listening to him`
`16:06.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: Due to your dialplan's execution?\`
`16:06.16`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: yes`
`16:06.26`	`ManxPower`	`"(10:04:29) _PauloS_: [TK]D-Fender, they only work with zaptel 1.4 and I'm having lots of frame slips."`
`16:06.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice: Oh I am... I'm just not TRUSTING his word choice, and going through the motions...`
`16:06.34`	`ManxPower`	`I assume "they" are TE100P`
`16:06.48`	`ManxPower`	`..er...l TE110P`
`16:06.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: Well not that thats establish : NO. You need to set them in your context before use.`
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`16:07.08`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: How do you know you have frame slips?`
`16:07.34`	`_PauloS_`	`err... sorry... I'm Brazilian and here the pronoums for things and people are the same.`
`16:07.44`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: that is exactly what i want;)`
`16:07.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: Please provide the pastebin that I requested.`
`16:07.45`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: Are you getting your timing from the telco`
`16:08.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: "exten => s,1,Set(mystupidvar=whatever)`
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`16:09.02`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok "exten => s,1,Set(myintellegentvar=whatever) ok`
`16:09.38`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: [TK]D-Fender assumes your call hits the "s" extension, usually with a Goto or via an incoming call via an analog FXO port`
`16:10.01`	`Thomas007`	`anyone which has a link to an dtmf string example for use with Snom 360 - I'm trying to program a key to login an Agent to a Queue - I want to do "100* <wait>400#"`
`16:10.22`	`Thomas007`	`or an other solution than dtmf`
`16:10.32`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: i need to find a way to set them without calling any extension, just on ater start`
`16:10.48`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: that is impossible with Asterisk.`
`16:11.06`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: what about Globals?`
`16:11.07`	`ManxPower`	`Your options are global variables and channel associated vaiables.`
`16:11.36`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: set them in globals, but that will not limit the variable to a specific context`
`16:11.59`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: that's ok for me, thank you`
`16:12.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: Indeed, that is just a sample and may not match exactly what you're doing.`
`16:12.48`	`_PauloS_`	`[TK]D-Fender : http://pastebin.ca/374421`
`16:13.20`	`Mahmoud`	`any one here compiled bison from the source code?`
`16:13.39`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: I just "urpmi bison" and it is magically installed for me.`
`16:13.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: Your card is sharing an IRQ with a NIC. that is BAD <----`
`16:13.48`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: i am just trying to realize some standart pbx option which my boss asked me, like: user dial's a number and he has Voicemail redirection for any caller`
`16:14.28`	`Mahmoud`	`ManxPower, i'm not folllowing any automated method`
`16:14.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: Also you have 3 telecom cards in your system where EVERY doc from Digium says you should use no more than 2`
`16:14.35`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: you means "do not disturb option"`
`16:15.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: "show function DB"`
`16:15.25`	`angryuser`	`ManxPower: ys DND but i am using some non ip phone where dnd is out`
`16:15.31`	`cpatry`	`even if im using internal_timing = yes in asterisk.conf, why my MOH still waiting for rtp to send ones?`
`16:15.58`	`ManxPower`	`angryuser: there are a billion DND options on the Wiki`
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`16:16.03`	`_PauloS_`	`[TK]D-Fender : I use unicall, and I use FAX, that is not supported by Digium.`
`16:16.07`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: yes it is based on db, i need just some vars and it will be done`
`16:16.10`	`ManxPower`	`examples too`
`16:16.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: Congratulations, your failure is complete (insert Emperor Palpatine's evil laugh here)`
`16:16.56`	`_PauloS_`	`[TK]D-Fender: its used to work before.`
`16:17.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: You need to sit and think on this a bit.`
`16:18.00`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: i will show you my work at the end, just to make sure that i am not concerned by "Emperor Palpatine's evil laugh"`
`16:18.02`	`_PauloS_`	`[TK]D-Fender: that is why I'm looking for another hardware provider`
`16:18.22`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: you cannot expect things to work correctly if your Digium card is sharing an IRQ with your ethernet device.`
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`16:19.06`	`ManxPower`	`I doubt any other card will work will if it shares an IRQ with an ethernet device.`
`16:19.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: No, your situation is not difficult, you just ned to get your head straight.`
`16:19.59`	`JerJer`	`yeah boi`
`16:20.05`	`ManxPower`	`But that is only one of your issues. You STILL have not provided information on which span you are getting your timing from.`
`16:20.32`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, this machine is in production environment for about an year. One TE110P broke and the replacement doesnot work anymore.`
`16:21.34`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, it receives about 1000 fax a day.`
`16:21.46`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: yes it is not wright now, it was, when i realized that all my work before was really a ##### and i need to rewrite all of it;)`
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`16:22.13`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: what the replacement card put in the SAME slot as the old card.`
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`16:22.43`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, yes. It will not work even if its the only board in the bus.`
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`16:23.20`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: You confirmed the "broken" board does not work in a different system?`
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`16:24.32`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower : yes, I confirmed. I think only unicall (spandsp) users will note the frame slips`
`16:24.40`	`Thomas007`	`anyone which has a link to an dtmf string example for use with Snom 360 - I'm trying to program a key to login an Agent to a Queue - I want to do "100* <wait>400#"`
`16:24.45`	`coppice`	`_PauloS_ did you just change the zaptel software to 1.4, or were you forced to change other software?`
`16:25.03`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: What test did you do to see the frame slips?`
`16:25.04`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, I was forced.`
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`16:25.35`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, with 1.2.10 it doesnot work even for voice.`
`16:25.36`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: forced?`
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`16:26.26`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, with zaptel 1.2.10 I got lots of protocol error on the E1s.`
`16:26.30`	`ManxPower`	`I give up.`
`16:26.39`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: I cannot help you further.`
`16:26.48`	`Mahmoud`	`heh that's really funny`
`16:26.49`	`Mahmoud`	`m4 was installed in /usr/bin, and bison wants it to be in /usr/local/bin instead`
`16:27.05`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, Digiums tech siupport told me they changed some chipset and I have to install the newer zaptel driver.`
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`16:28.10`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: Did you do what Digium told you to do?`
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`16:28.38`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, BTW, zaptel 1.4 changed the header files path and I have to correct many files in the asterisk sources.`
`16:28.47`	`_PauloS_`	`(asterisk 1.2.14)`
`16:29.17`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, Im screwed.`
`16:29.18`	`ManxPower`	`1.2.14 is not 1.4. 1.2 should not have changed any header locations`
`16:29.51`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: You could start by following some advice.`
`16:29.56`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower, I mean asterisk 1.2.14 with zaptel 1.4`
`16:30.17`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: try the latest 1.2 zaptel.`
`16:30.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: You cannot mix versiosn like that`
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`16:30.27`	`ManxPower`	`I would not expect asterisk 1.2 to work well with zaptel 1.4`
`16:30.43`	`coppice`	`_PauloS_ so you have changed asterisk as well as zaptel?`
`16:30.53`	`_PauloS_`	`ManxPower: if I was following advice I was not using unicall or faxing over asterisk. But thanks, and sorry for the rant.`
`16:30.59`	`ManxPower`	`The latest zaptel 1.2 works better with shared interrupts`
`16:31.20`	`ManxPower`	`at least that is the claim`
`16:31.29`	`_PauloS_`	`I got to go... lunch time.`
`16:31.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`_PauloS_: Indeed I have been told that the latest Zaptel releases are much improved in that respect.`
`16:31.44`	`_PauloS_`	`Thanks everybody!`
`16:31.49`	`ManxPower`	`_PauloS_: you can argue or you can follow the advice here and get it working. Your choice.`
`16:32.08`	`coppice`	`_PauloS_ asterisk later than 1.2.9 seems to have problems. Unless you really have to, I wouldn't use anything newer unless you are forced to`
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`16:34.04`	`Qwell[]`	`coppice: "problems"?`
`16:34.48`	`coppice`	`I get various reports about crashes on null frames and faxing being unreliable when it worked fine up to 1.2.9`
`16:35.09`	`ManxPower`	`Qwell[]: slight increase in interrupt latency sensitivity`
`16:35.27`	`tzafrir`	`1.2.9 vs. what version specifically?`
`16:35.34`	`tzafrir`	`what device exactly?`
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`16:36.37`	`coppice`	`well, i was getting quite a few complaints until recently and they seem to have stopped. i don't know it they means thing got better or people gave up hope`
`16:36.58`	`coppice`	`i had lots of complaints about 1.2.12.1, I think`
`16:37.21`	`eald`	`I can complain about 1.2.12.1 anytime`
`16:38.39`	`eald`	`for example, I had a trixbox with that asterisk and has a notable memory leak, but I can't debug it to find where, even I don't know which app is`
`16:38.43`	`tzafrir`	`also: is this zaptel with chan_zap or zaptel with unicall? any chance that the "damage" is related to changes in higher layers?`
`16:39.13`	`coppice`	`most people having trouble with faxing do not use unicall`
`16:39.24`	`tzafrir`	`eald, a leak in zaptel 1.2.12.1 ? if you just restart asterisk, is it gone?`
`16:39.51`	`eald`	`tzafrir: sorry I'm talking about asterisk, looks that I didn't follow the conversation`
`16:39.56`	`Qwell[]`	`upgrade`
`16:40.35`	`tzafrir`	`Qwell[], does asterisk 1.2 svn build with zaptel 1.2 < 1.2.13 ?`
`16:40.46`	`Qwell[]`	`doubt it`
`16:40.49`	`Qwell[]`	`upgrade everything`
`16:41.09`	`tzafrir`	`That's a major pain for a "stable version"`
`16:41.41`	`mafkees`	`heya all`
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`16:42.23`	`russellb`	`zaptel had to change to support the hardware transcoder card.`
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`16:48.31`	`GeeJay101`	`good afternoon - unfortunately I have a pressing problem to which google does not answer`
`16:50.22`	`angryuser`	`can i use the "_" sing in goto? like Goto([[context]$VAR]1) where $VAR is set to "_*1."`
`16:50.49`	`GeeJay101`	`I am trying to do attended transfer of calls with hook-flash in Asterisk 1.2.14-BRIstuffed-0.3.0-PRE-1y`
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`16:51.58`	`angryuser`	`GeeJay101: hook-flash is dead for me, dead, as.. dead;) never worked`
`16:52.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: Goto(context,${VAR},1)`
`16:52.57`	`GeeJay101`	`Hookflash worked on this asterisk box until it was upgraded to 1.2.14`
`16:53.30`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: strange in 1.4 show application Set uses []`
`16:53.38`	`mafkees`	`yeah`
`16:53.43`	`mafkees`	`that means they are optional`
`16:53.53`	`GeeJay101`	`The gist of the story is that once the transferring party puts down the phone the call is also terminated at the extensions which should receive the call`
`16:53.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: Really... show me...`
`16:55.29`	`mafkees`	`[TK]D-Fender: on the asterisk cli: core show application set`
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`16:55.33`	`mafkees`	`ehm`
`16:55.35`	`GeeJay101`	`However the caller stays in the line and a fresh call is initiated to the party which was supposed to have received the transferred call`
`16:55.37`	`mafkees`	`[TK]D-Fender: on the asterisk cli: core show application goto`
`16:55.38`	`mafkees`	`sorry`
`16:55.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PASTEBIN.`
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`16:55.48`	`mafkees`	`ok`
`16:56.09`	`angryuser`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/374499 here you go [TK]D-Fender:`
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`16:56.19`	`mafkees`	`http://pastebin.ca/374500`
`16:56.21`	`GeeJay101`	`angryuser so what to use for attended transfer then ?`
`16:56.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: And yes you see backets for "Set. that implies OPTIONAL parameters, not a LERTERL set of characters to include.`
`16:56.38`	`mafkees`	`[TK]D-Fender: thats what I told them`
`16:56.45`	`mafkees`	`17:53 < angryuser> [TK]D-Fender: strange in 1.4 show application Set uses []`
`16:56.45`	`mafkees`	`17:53 < mafkees> yeah`
`16:56.45`	`mafkees`	`17:53 < mafkees> that means they are optional`
`16:57.20`	`angryuser`	`GeeJay101: Attended transfer;) well i use * button for record call and # fro attended transfer`
`16:57.32`	`angryuser`	`GeeJay101: in features conf`
`16:57.35`	`Mahmoud`	`just feeling naughty, can i use the g.729 codec without purchasing it? by simply copying the file into modules directory and loading it?`
`16:57.48`	`mafkees`	`Mahmoud: no`
`16:57.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: That isn't SET, thats GOTO you showed me.`
`16:57.54`	`Corydon-w`	`Nope, you need a license code to use it`
`16:57.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I get your requests reverse.`
`16:58.04`	`Mahmoud`	`mafkees, what more should i do?`
`16:58.11`	`mafkees`	`Mahmoud: buy a license`
`16:58.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: YES, Goto has optional params for which the instructions use [] to deliniate.`
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`16:58.30`	`Mahmoud`	`mafkees, what does the license look like? how can i use it?`
`16:58.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: this is standard documentation methodology.`
`16:58.36`	`angryuser`	`coz you wrote "[TK]D-Fender: angryuser: Goto(context,${VAR},1)"`
`16:58.41`	`mafkees`	`[TK]D-Fender: I know, I use it all the time`
`16:58.54`	`Corydon-w`	`Mahmoud: G729-ABCDEFGH`
`16:59.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: And what does this have to do with SET?`
`16:59.13`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: nothing at all`
`16:59.18`	`mafkees`	`Mahmoud: http://www.digium.com/en/products/voice/g729codec.php`
`16:59.24`	`KuJaX`	`I have a Linksys 941 phone at work and a Cisco 7940 at home. I can connect the 7940 to the Asterisk server at work, but i can't call in or out because the Linksys 941 already has the extension registered. How can I either unregister the extension within Asterisk or have call forwarding on the Linksys 941 to the Cisco 7940?`
`16:59.28`	`GeeJay101`	`angryuser - just a humble question: Hook-flash used to work in Asterisk 1.0 and also 1.2 is that permanently broken ?`
`16:59.30`	`Corydon-w`	`Mahmoud: you run the register app on the server on which you want to use the license code and it locks that license code to that particular machine`
`16:59.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser>[TK]D-Fender: strange in 1.4 show application Set uses [] <-- whats the point of this question?`
`16:59.52`	`Corydon-w`	`(based upon the MAC address of the Ethernet card)`
`16:59.56`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: i just missunderstood the question;)`
`17:00.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: it was YOUR question...`
`17:00.37`	`mafkees`	`lol`
`17:00.41`	`mafkees`	`war !`
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`17:01.32`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: well drop it, my initial question vas about "_" in variables`
`17:02.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: AFAIK You can have those chars, but you can't jump to a pattern match by using it. Just leave it off and the rest of the match should work fine.`
`17:03.01`	`angryuser`	`GeeJay101: i am not sure about it, maybe because i am using astribank, maybe because i dont know how to configure zapata`
`17:03.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: So Goto(context,1${myvar},1) will land you on exten => _1.,1,whatever`
`17:03.17`	`angryuser`	`[TK]D-Fender: thankyou`
`17:03.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`angryuser: * wil re-evaluate the match based on the Goto as if it were dialed, so don't add the _`
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`17:09.43`	`tuan_modulis`	`KuJaX: you need both phones to be registered and activate call forwarding`
`17:10.35`	`KuJaX`	`tuan_modulis - Okay, so right now both phones show 110 registered (on the phone). However, on the Cisco 7940 i cannot do anything with it. So I assume I have to activate call forwarding via the Linksys spa941 phone?`
`17:10.37`	`tuan_modulis`	`to do that, it's like exten => XXXX,1,Dial(Local/${extensionNumber}@????/n)`
`17:10.54`	`tuan_modulis`	`yea`
`17:10.59`	`tuan_modulis`	`on the asterisk server`
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`17:11.31`	`tuan_modulis`	`it's easier if u use other softwares on the asterisk server though`
`17:11.35`	`tuan_modulis`	`like freepbx or whatnot`
`17:11.39`	`KuJaX`	`I do have freepbx installed.`
`17:11.46`	`tuan_modulis`	`ah, in that case`
`17:11.46`	`KuJaX`	`How would I do it with freepbx?`
`17:11.51`	`tuan_modulis`	`do a "follow me"`
`17:11.57`	`KuJaX`	`okay..`
`17:12.14`	`KuJaX`	`would I have both phones extension 110? Or one 110 and the other 111?`
`17:12.36`	`tuan_modulis`	`different extensions`
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`17:12.50`	`tuan_modulis`	`where one does a "follow me" to the other`
`17:13.09`	`KuJaX`	`if someone dialed extension 110.... and I don't pick up on extension 111 from home.. would it kick them to the original 110 voicemail?`
`17:14.01`	`tuan_modulis`	`hmm, lemme check`
`17:14.21`	`tuan_modulis`	`I'm not that familiar with freepbx myself`
`17:14.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX: Depends what you do your forwarding on.`
`17:14.34`	`tuan_modulis`	`but it's possible using DIALSTATUS`
`17:14.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KuJaX: Please read the channel topic....`
`17:15.39`	`tuan_modulis`	`ah yes, freepbx channel should help more`
`17:15.46`	`KuJaX`	`yeah thanks`
`17:19.39`	`SwK[Work]`	`hmmm`
`17:19.43`	`aydiosmio`	`is there a way to detect DTMF digits after Dial has been answered?`
`17:19.44`	`SwK[Work]`	`anyone have a VSX7000?`
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`17:20.19`	`SwK[Work]`	`[tk]d-fender got mine in... got voice calls working but cant get my guy with the matching one at the remote end to answer his f'n cell phone heh`
`17:20.22`	`aydiosmio`	`Want to Dial then execute some AGI on *n`
`17:20.24`	`bigred`	`I am trying to install asterisk on my mac. What configure options do I need if i want to install it in ~/asterisk, and not have any files put in /var, /etc, etc, etc`
`17:20.44`	`SwK[Work]`	`bigred should be --prefix`
`17:20.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: "show application dial"`
`17:20.58`	`bigred`	`SwK[Work]: it still tries to install into /var when i make install`
`17:21.15`	`SwK[Work]`	`what version?`
`17:21.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SwK[Work]: Cool, nowhere near ready to order ours yet thankfully.`
`17:21.25`	`SwK[Work]`	`heh`
`17:21.37`	`SwK[Work]`	`fender: i have found 1 thing I dont like about it`
`17:22.04`	`SwK[Work]`	`unless i can find an autopreped setting in sip it makes you enter the full user@proxy crap`
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`17:23.36`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: I only see d: This flag trumps the 'H' flag and intercepts any dtmf while waiting for the call to be answered and returns that value on the spot.`
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`17:23.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: "M"`
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`17:25.12`	`aydiosmio`	`hm, not exactly what I was thinking, but this could work`
`17:25.19`	`aydiosmio`	`thx`
`17:26.06`	`mafkees`	`gheh, for ages cdr_mysql is giving this funny message to me`
`17:26.07`	`mafkees`	`[Feb 27 18:05:36] ERROR[14977]: cdr_addon_mysql.c:163 mysql_log: cdr_mysql: Unknown connection error: (2006) MySQL server has gone away`
`17:26.45`	`mafkees`	`it's not`
`17:26.45`	`mafkees`	`it's still running`
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`17:26.45`	`ManxPower`	`M() only accepts 1 dtmf digit IIRC, and jumps to that exten line outsde the macro`
`17:26.45`	`mafkees`	`and the records are written correctly`
`17:26.45`	`Hmmhesays`	`can someone help me with a regexp?`
`17:26.45`	`Hmmhesays`	`I need to identify an IP address`
`17:27.04`	`bigred`	`SwK[Work]: i am running 1.4`
`17:27.11`	`mafkees`	`Hmmhesays: what language ?`
`17:27.43`	`Hmmhesays`	`i'm using sed to match and replace an ip addy... but I just found an example`
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`17:30.50`	`deb_user`	`does the cdr_mysql.conf file go in the directory with all other .conf files?`
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`17:32.15`	`Zimmy`	`hai`
`17:32.33`	`Zimmy`	`question`
`17:32.35`	`Zimmy`	`for anyone here`
`17:32.45`	`Zimmy`	`is there any way I can use a Mitel Superset 4025 with Asterisk?`
`17:34.07`	`deb_user`	`zimmy: is it sip or iax compatible?`
`17:34.23`	`Corydon-w`	`Sounds like a buttset`
`17:34.47`	`Juggie`	`4025 is Mitel Analog/Digital only.`
`17:34.50`	`deb_user`	`doesn't look like its compatible...is it connected to a legacy pbx?`
`17:35.09`	`Juggie`	`its not`
`17:35.15`	`Juggie`	`thats a Mitel Digital Phone`
`17:35.34`	`bigred`	`If I do not have any hardware, what service could I use to actually place telephone calls. I have heard of vitelity`
`17:35.41`	`Juggie`	`that requires a sx2000 or whatever`
`17:36.02`	`deb_user`	`bigred: no hardware? do you have server running *?`
`17:36.15`	`bigred`	`deb_user: i meant no hardware, like no T1 hardware`
`17:36.16`	`Zimmy`	`there's nothing like a digium board or something I can use to connect the phone?`
`17:36.17`	`Hmmhesays`	`heh which doesn't work with sed`
`17:36.38`	`deb_user`	`zimmy: I've got a legacy pbx connected to my * box via tdm fxs interfaces`
`17:36.48`	`Zimmy`	`well the thing is`
`17:36.51`	`deb_user`	`zimmy: its not seamless, but it does get the job done`
`17:36.56`	`Zimmy`	`I don't want to buy a legacy pbx`
`17:37.00`	`Zimmy`	`i can get like`
`17:37.04`	`Zimmy`	`20 of these mitel phones free`
`17:37.14`	`deb_user`	`oh...`
`17:37.18`	`deb_user`	`use a channel bank then`
`17:37.27`	`deb_user`	`bigred: I use vitelity`
`17:38.02`	`deb_user`	`bigred: I'm really happy with it, super cheap international rates, cheap DIDs, and fast response customer service`
`17:38.07`	`bigred`	`deb_user: how do you like it? do they provide an api for you to get reports, etc?`
`17:38.21`	`deb_user`	`bigred: I haven't set anything like that up`
`17:38.29`	`deb_user`	`what kind of reports do you want?`
`17:38.38`	`bigred`	`what is a DID (sorry)?`
`17:38.45`	`deb_user`	`direct in dialing`
`17:38.56`	`danp`	`you can download your call records in csv format`
`17:38.57`	`deb_user`	`a telephone number that someone can dial into your pbx via the PSTN`
`17:39.21`	`deb_user`	`danp: you can also view them via the web interface`
`17:39.28`	`deb_user`	`that's what I usually do`
`17:39.51`	`bigred`	`danp!!!`
`17:39.59`	`danp`	`yeah, i'm in here, too :P`
`17:40.03`	`deb_user`	`bigred: i've got local telephone numbers provided by vitelity...took them a while to set them up`
`17:40.29`	`deb_user`	`but once they are set up, they are cheap, easy to use, and the sound quality is excellent`
`17:40.29`	`Exhar`	`Mafkees; dutchie eh? You can come bring them... ;)`
`17:40.47`	`deb_user`	`they'll even port your existing DID from your local telco`
`17:41.01`	`mafkees`	`Exhar: :)`
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`17:41.23`	`NirS`	`good evening`
`17:41.26`	`Exhar`	`near Alkmaar, ;)`
`17:41.27`	`NirS`	`how is everybody doing tonight ?`
`17:41.28`	`Bobthehunter`	`anyway to rewrite the EXTENSION ? so the dst cdr doesnt show the PREFIX i add`
`17:41.29`	`deb_user`	`does the cdr_mysql.conf file go in the directory with all other .conf files?`
`17:41.47`	`mafkees`	`Exhar: that's a long drive for me`
`17:41.48`	`deb_user`	`like extensions.conf, etc.`
`17:41.53`	`mafkees`	`I live near Amersfoort`
`17:41.53`	`cpatry`	`deb_user: yes`
`17:42.04`	`Exhar`	`You wanted to give free beers, not me ;)`
`17:42.26`	`deb_user`	`cpatry: thanks...that's all I wanted to know`
`17:42.26`	`mafkees`	`Bobthehunter: ${EXTEN:${PREFIXLEN}}`
`17:42.34`	`Bobthehunter`	`i dial like that`
`17:42.37`	`NirS`	`hey all`
`17:42.51`	`mafkees`	`ah, you mean in cdr`
`17:42.54`	`NirS`	`stupid question: is there a way to do call-limit on IAX2 ?`
`17:42.57`	`mafkees`	`ehm`
`17:42.58`	`Bobthehunter`	`exten => _9991000NXXNXXXXXX,2,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:7}`
`17:43.10`	`cpatry`	`NirS: whatcha mean?`
`17:43.21`	`mafkees`	`Bobthehunter: you checked the CDR() dialplan function ?`
`17:43.23`	`Bobthehunter`	`but this shows as999100018005444444`
`17:43.26`	`Bobthehunter`	`heu`
`17:43.29`	`deb_user`	`zimmy: you could also get something like a granstream handytone and hook it up to each phone`
`17:43.33`	`mafkees`	`show function CDR`
`17:43.44`	`deb_user`	`zimmy: but I'm not sure how well a solution like that scales to 20 phones`
`17:43.55`	`Zimmy`	`well i have no plans to use ALL the phones`
`17:43.57`	`mafkees`	`NirS: I think you need the GROUP() dialplan function for that`
`17:44.01`	`Zimmy`	`I still got a Cisco 7960`
`17:44.08`	`Zimmy`	`that I use at home at my workstation`
`17:44.16`	`Zimmy`	`i'm probably just gonna sell most of the phones on eBay`
`17:44.22`	`NirS`	`mafkees, why ?`
`17:44.44`	`mafkees`	`NirS: because it allows you to implement a call-limit`
`17:44.48`	`Bobthehunter`	`like Set(CDR(dst)=${EXTEN:7})`
`17:44.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`?`
`17:45.04`	`deb_user`	`zimmy: that's a good idea...I have a grandstream handytone 486 I think...`
`17:45.15`	`mafkees`	`Bobthehunter: looks like it yeah :)`
`17:45.16`	`NirS`	`mafkees, well, I was under the impression that there should be something identical to SIP's call-limit in iax.conf`
`17:45.22`	`deb_user`	`zimmy: it works great once you get it configured correctly`
`17:45.29`	`NirS`	`I guess there isn't, so I'll need to implement this manually`
`17:45.38`	`Bobthehunter`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:45.48`	`mafkees`	`NirS: if it's not in the iax.conf.sample it isn't`
`17:46.00`	`NirS`	`great ;-)`
`17:46.44`	`Bobthehunter`	`look like not`
`17:47.23`	`mafkees`	`Bobthehunter: check the output of 'show function CDR'`
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`17:47.23`	`mafkees`	`it talks about inventing your own type`
`17:47.23`	`Bobthehunter`	`CDR(<name>[\|options])`
`17:48.34`	`Bobthehunter`	`Gets or sets a CDR variable`
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`17:48.40`	`angryuser`	`NirS: call-limit=x is not working for iax?`
`17:48.40`	`mafkees`	`All of the above variables are read-only, except for accountcode, userfield, and amaflags.`
`17:48.40`	`angryuser`	`NirS: iax.conf`
`17:48.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`then this wont help me`
`17:48.40`	`Bobthehunter`	`unless i jump to another place hmm`
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`17:49.24`	`mafkees`	`Bobthehunter: or unless you put your own <name> in there`
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`17:49.47`	`mafkees`	`Set(CDR(myleetname)=${EXTEN:7})`
`17:49.51`	`mafkees`	`that will be logged as well`
`17:50.45`	`NirS`	`angryuser, I can't find anything like that in the source`
`17:51.03`	`_PauloS_`	`I'm back.`
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`17:51.16`	`angryuser`	`NirS: it is working for sip.conf`
`17:51.37`	`mafkees`	`angryuser: IAX2 != SIP`
`17:52.08`	`angryuser`	`mafkees: why use iax anyway?`
`17:52.13`	`NirS`	`well, according to voip-info and the source, it should work in sip.conf`
`17:52.16`	`mafkees`	`because it's nice ?`
`17:52.17`	`angryuser`	`mafkees: i mean for clients`
`17:52.35`	`mafkees`	`firewalls, nat, jitterbuffer`
`17:52.39`	`mafkees`	`all kinds of reasons`
`17:52.49`	`NirS`	`makfees, hmm... maybe becasue I manufactur an IAX phone ?`
`17:52.59`	`NirS`	`and i'm tyring to test something here`
`17:53.06`	`mafkees`	`NirS: there are phones that support IAX2`
`17:53.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Only reason for IAX2 -> TRUNKING.`
`17:53.18`	`mafkees`	`lol [TK]D-Fender, for a softphone ?`
`17:53.51`	`redox-`	`anyone have any experience with Bell in Canada? I'm trying to get our business number forwarded to our SIP number but it only works with 1 simultaneous call.`
`17:53.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: No, IAX was never meant as a CLIENT protocol. Inter ASTERISK eXchange`
`17:54.26`	`mafkees`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah, but it works great for clients as well`
`17:55.59`	`mafkees`	`gheh, stable net`
`17:55.59`	`cpatry`	`NirS: u manufacture IAX phones? which company?`
`17:55.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: Sure it can work just fine, its that it wasn't the point. IAX is still largelylimited to *, and I don't like any 1 piece of my solutions owning me...`
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`17:56.08`	`NirS`	`makfees, yes, I make one of them`
`17:56.49`	`NirS`	`massive spits today, aren't they`
`17:56.50`	`NirS`	`well, time to go back into the code`
`17:56.50`	`NirS`	`c'ya all later on people`
`17:56.50`	`mafkees`	`bye`
`17:56.50`	`Bobthehunter`	`wahts natural ordering`
`17:56.50`	`mafkees`	`it means it will order:`
`17:57.07`	`mafkees`	`1, 2, 3, 10, 11, 20`
`17:57.07`	`mafkees`	`instead of:`
`17:57.16`	`mafkees`	`1, 10, 11, 2, 20, 3`
`17:58.19`	`Bobthehunter`	`no i mean waht sorder of dialplan`
`17:58.27`	`Bobthehunter`	`like can i do 1,2,5,8,9 as priorities`
`17:59.14`	`mafkees`	`no`
`17:59.18`	`mafkees`	`it will stop at 2`
`17:59.29`	`mafkees`	`in that particular sample`
`17:59.51`	`mafkees`	`only exception is the n+101 stuff`
`17:59.58`	`mafkees`	`but you should avoid that`
`18:00.13`	`mafkees`	`that was prolly implemented while the developer was on LSD`
`18:00.16`	`mafkees`	`or something like that`
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`18:03.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`or 1,.2,3,3 ?`
`18:04.16`	`errr`	`is there some site that I can use to get the dial rules from?`
`18:04.37`	`Bobthehunter`	`waht happens if 2 times same prio then ?`
`18:04.47`	`angryuser`	`http://sourcefrog.net/projects/natsort/ natural ordering;)`
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`18:05.36`	`mafkees`	`Bobthehunter: one will be discarded`
`18:05.47`	`Bobthehunter`	`but wich one will it take ?`
`18:06.35`	`wunderkin`	`the first one... if you need to keep changing your priority numbers, start with 1 and then use n after that, if using 1.2 or above`
`18:07.53`	`clyrrad`	`Does anyone know of a Carrier that can provide DID's in Barrie Ontario?`
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`18:11.20`	`Bobthehunter`	`waht about n order in sql ?`
`18:11.32`	`Bobthehunter`	`natural mysql order ? or random lol`
`18:11.56`	`mafkees`	`that's a good one ;)`
`18:12.03`	`mafkees`	`you are using realtime ?`
`18:12.19`	`mafkees`	`or some custom agi and a database ?`
`18:12.50`	`Bobthehunter`	`realtime`
`18:12.58`	`mafkees`	`cant help you there`
`18:13.01`	`Exhar`	`Mafkees, do you know some good dutch voip-forums? :P`
`18:14.03`	`Bobthehunter`	`how about 1,n,n,n,5,6`
`18:14.04`	`Bobthehunter`	`?`
`18:14.34`	`mafkees`	`Exhar: www.voip-wiki.nl`
`18:14.42`	`Exhar`	`dank u, :)`
`18:18.19`	`mafkees`	`hhmm, not really up-to-date`
`18:18.20`	`mafkees`	`lol`
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`18:24.02`	`GeeJay101`	`thanks angryuser`
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`18:25.43`	`genz`	`Does anyone know how to disable the "Manager 'admin' logged on from 127.0.0.1" messages from the ARI?`
`18:26.45`	`Qwell[]`	`anybody have any clue how to install kernel headers on RHEL3? This is getting ridiculous`
`18:26.54`	`Bobthehunter`	`upgrade`
`18:27.20`	`cpatry`	`displayconnects=no in ur manager.conf.`
`18:28.11`	`genz`	`cpatry: thanks`
`18:28.19`	`cpatry`	`if im doing restart now, im getting: Unable to bind socket: Address already in use but if im waiting like 3 seconds, thats okay, any idea how to fix that?`
`18:28.25`	`cpatry`	`kill the socket ?`
`18:28.29`	`genz`	`cpatry: i just found that in the manager.c file, should've thought to look there soon`
`18:28.49`	`cpatry`	`genz: and this is not ARI, but AMI.`
`18:28.57`	`cpatry`	`ARI is realtime, AMI is manager`
`18:29.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: "yum install kernel*" ?`
`18:29.16`	`Qwell[]`	`[TK]D-Fender: ha`
`18:29.20`	`Qwell[]`	`no yum`
`18:29.22`	`errr`	`when I try to simulate an incoming call by dialing 7777 I get a fast busy signal only. What is possibly causing that?`
`18:29.29`	`danp`	`up2date?`
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`18:29.45`	`cpatry`	`install yum then do your yum install?`
`18:29.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: rpm-uVH yum ? :)`
`18:29.53`	`Qwell[]`	`cpatry: there is no official yumr repos`
`18:29.56`	`angryuser`	`errr: wrong dialplan`
`18:29.57`	`Qwell[]`	`yum repos*`
`18:30.22`	`errr`	`angryuser: is there some tool or something I can use to help me generate the correct dial plan?`
`18:31.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`errr: "man vi"`
`18:31.05`	`mafkees`	`Qwell[]: wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.20.1.tar.bz2`
`18:31.11`	`cpatry`	`errr: yes, ur brain :)`
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`18:31.25`	`angryuser`	`errr: yes, main tool i have been using is the brain, but seriosly go to wiki dialplant applications/functions,`
`18:32.03`	`angryuser`	`cpatry: hehe fast typer;)`
`18:34.05`	`angryuser`	`errr: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk`
`18:34.51`	`errr`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah I dont know if you ever read man vi but :help is better and I dont need to learn how to use vi`
`18:34.57`	`genz`	`What would cause "CDR on channel not posted" and "CDR on channel lacks end" messages?`
`18:35.51`	`errr`	`for those of you who have made a dial plan or 2 it seems common knowledge but to someone who has never even seen one its not so common`
`18:35.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`errr: Thats called "comedy". The jist of which is that you should really ready over your dialplan carefully. Its yours, and you should know what you're doing with it and be able to think through each step as it would execute and be aware of any formatting errors, etc.`
`18:36.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`errr: Downloaded THE BOOK yet?`
`18:36.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~book`
`18:36.24`	`jbot`	`methinks book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`18:36.49`	`deb_user`	`can anybody help me troubleshoot asterisk mysql_cdr?`
`18:37.03`	`genz`	`deb_user: what's the problem?`
`18:37.24`	`deb_user`	`genz: well...I'm just not sure how to test if * is actually able to connect to the sql server or not`
`18:37.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`errr: Quick answer on "basy busy" is thats its your phone's way of telling you the # you dialed does not match anything in that phone's context.`
`18:37.41`	`deb_user`	`genz: i'm trying to set up the hoodahek caller id, but the perl scripts aren't working`
`18:37.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: Place a call. End a Call. Query the DB.`
`18:38.18`	`deb_user`	`fender: i don't think its set up to store the cdrs...is there a how to or something?`
`18:38.53`	`deb_user`	`the one on voip-info.org isn't very good`
`18:38.53`	`genz`	`deb_user: what cdr modules are you using?`
`18:39.02`	`deb_user`	`genz: mysql`
`18:39.20`	`genz`	`deb_user: and not custom nor csv?`
`18:39.29`	`deb_user`	`nope`
`18:40.02`	`deb_user`	`genz: i think i need a cdr tutorial...`
`18:40.09`	`deb_user`	`any recommendations on the web?`
`18:40.12`	`deb_user`	`i'll google right now`
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`18:43.42`	`genz`	`deb_user: can you throw a line in the perl script?`
`18:43.55`	`deb_user`	`genz: i don't see why not`
`18:43.56`	`genz`	`deb_user: and have it shoot you an email to see if its making it that far`
`18:44.07`	`deb_user`	`yeah...ok`
`18:44.08`	`deb_user`	`one sec`
`18:44.31`	`deb_user`	`i think there's another script set up to do just that`
`18:44.32`	`deb_user`	`lemme check`
`18:45.09`	`genz`	`deb_user: you could also add err-log=/var/log/mysqld.log into my.cnf inside [mysqld_safe]`
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`18:45.16`	`rajiv`	`how can i set a voicemail box to be greeting only (so ppl cannot leave messages) ?`
`18:46.04`	`Qwell[]`	`~wikis`
`18:46.05`	`jbot`	`hmm... wikis is http://www.voip-info.org`
`18:46.09`	`deb_user`	`genz: i've been logging as I try to connect`
`18:46.21`	`Qwell[]`	`d00gster: see the link from jbot`
`18:46.23`	`deb_user`	`genz: but I see nothing at all in the log`
`18:46.32`	`Qwell[]`	`search there for some iptables config samples`
`18:46.36`	`deb_user`	`suppose I coudl change to an err-log`
`18:46.50`	`Strom_M`	`hey Qwell[]`
`18:46.54`	`Qwell[]`	`y0`
`18:47.01`	`Strom_M`	`que pasa?`
`18:47.02`	`genz`	`deb_user: what asterisk version?`
`18:47.07`	`Qwell[]`	`Where does the _M take you today?`
`18:47.25`	`Strom_M`	`Qwell[]: teaching`
`18:47.28`	`deb_user`	`1.4`
`18:47.49`	`genz`	`deb_user: here's my cdr_mysql.conf - http://pastebin.ca/374624`
`18:48.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rajiv: Don't call VM, just play the message with "Playback"`
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`18:49.55`	`NTJOCK`	`hi [TK]D-Fender`
`18:49.57`	`genz`	`I get the "not posted" and "lacks end" messages a lot. Is that something I should worry about?`
`18:50.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK: You're welcome for yesterday.`
`18:50.22`	`NTJOCK`	`Yea, that turned out to really make my day.`
`18:50.27`	`NTJOCK`	`teliax was EZ to setup and get going.`
`18:50.31`	`cpatry`	`genz: probably cause ur cdr backend isnt set correctly or too much nocdr()`
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`18:50.44`	`KeX`	`hi`
`18:50.47`	`NTJOCK`	`and I accidentally left it with priority in our outbound calling this morning and nobody knew it was there....`
`18:50.54`	`NTJOCK`	`which spells success in my eyes.`
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`18:51.10`	`genz`	`cpatry: Can you point me in the right direction?`
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`18:51.26`	`cpatry`	`do you use NoCDR() in ur dialplan>`
`18:51.39`	`rajiv`	`[TK]D-Fender: i have something like exten => _20[2-9],1,Macro(stdexten,${EXTEN}) and want to do this for just one extension in that range. will i have to split it out?`
`18:51.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK: Very glad to hear`
`18:51.44`	`errr`	`Qwell[]: did you get the kernel headers installed on that rhel 3 box?`
`18:51.48`	`Qwell[]`	`no`
`18:52.05`	`errr`	`glibc-kernheaders`
`18:52.08`	`genz`	`cpatry: on hangup, yes`
`18:52.12`	`NTJOCK`	`What's a good way to measure usage on * ?`
`18:52.36`	`errr`	`rpm -q -f /usr/include/linux/sound.h is provided by it on el 3`
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`18:52.42`	`Strom_M`	`When trying to run safe_asterisk on ubuntu with asterisk 1.2.15, I get an error message that says "syntax error: bad fd number"`
`18:52.50`	`cpatry`	`genz: then its cause u dont want cdr, so theres nothing to worry about no?`
`18:52.51`	`NTJOCK`	`I'm wondering how many lines we actually need.... with an eye towards calculating capacity if we go to VOIP based channels.`
`18:53.13`	`KeX`	`can anyone give me any suggestions on how I can implement a day/night mechanism in dialplan? I've read about includes with day/time/month ... but I should setup something more difficult. in the evening asterisk should automatically switch to night and in the mornig a user manually switches to day`
`18:53.27`	`Strom_M`	`KeX: usse GotoIfTime()`
`18:53.28`	`KeX`	`is this possible? or how is or could this be possible?`
`18:54.19`	`KeX`	`Strom_M, jepm but that is fully automatical. but I should create something 'semi automatical', as described`
`18:54.50`	`Strom_M`	`KeX: cronjobs and macros and astdb`
`18:55.30`	`NTJOCK`	`kex: http://www.pastebin.ca/374632 See if that helps... it's my config for day/night`
`18:55.52`	`KeX`	`Strom_M, astdb for userinteraction, right? macros for the dialing, but cronjobs?`
`18:55.57`	`KeX`	`NTJOCK, I'll look, thx`
`18:56.00`	`NTJOCK`	`I don't do manual switching.... mine is either on and off.`
`18:56.04`	`NTJOCK`	`On holidays I manually change it`
`18:56.05`	`NTJOCK`	`:)`
`18:56.36`	`NTJOCK`	`and then I manually change it back`
`18:56.41`	`genz`	`cpatry: I do a resetcdr and nocdr on most of my hangups, could that harm me down the road?`
`18:56.42`	`NTJOCK`	`it's easier then writing super complicated scripts`
`18:57.15`	`wunderkin`	`all you need to do is set/check a variable to do it manually`
`18:57.55`	`KeX`	`NTJOCK, k, I've implemented something like this. but the openhours should not be started automatically`
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`19:00.15`	`KeX`	`is it possible to remove a entry from astdb on a specific time? except with a cron job?`
`19:00.19`	`angryuser`	`goodbye everyone&have fun`
`19:00.56`	`wunderkin`	`why`
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`19:02.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin: Because.`
`19:05.50`	`NTJOCK`	`KeX: You could have two files and then swap them (rename) and restart... but that's a "hackish" way to do it.`
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`19:06.05`	`anonymouz666`	`anyone having kernel panic with asterisk running < 2.6.18 kernel on x64 arch ?`
`19:06.20`	`NTJOCK`	`I'm just curious what sort of operation you have that your employees don't get there in a reasonably predictable time, but they leave at the same time?`
`19:06.35`	`anonymouz666`	`I am about to update to the lastest 2.6 kernel`
`19:06.37`	`NTJOCK`	`You might look into call queues..... which we don't use, so I can't help with.`
`19:06.48`	`NTJOCK`	`if nobodies in the call it would then ring to voicemail, otherwise it gets answered.`
`19:06.58`	`anonymouz666`	`I got a kernel panic when I run CLI command "restart now"`
`19:06.58`	`NTJOCK`	`I do that with several options in the auto attendant.`
`19:07.13`	`NTJOCK`	`ring several desks at once. and if no answer step to another set of phones and then to voicemail.`
`19:07.36`	`KeX`	`NTJOCK, I've thougt of something like this: include the night context and in the night context, check a database entry, if it is set, goto day, if not go on in night context`
`19:08.13`	`NTJOCK`	`I don't know how that would work... i've left databases out of my PBX. :)`
`19:08.16`	`KeX`	`NTJOCK, I've to set this up, cause my customer worries about 'day' on a holiday`
`19:08.31`	`NTJOCK`	`oh.... hmmm, well if you know the holidays you could branch out from them`
`19:08.42`	`NTJOCK`	`and then charge them for "new" holidays or "maintenance" to the configs each year`
`19:08.59`	`NTJOCK`	`I seem to remember somewhere that * has login and logout options.`
`19:09.12`	`NTJOCK`	`maybe they could have a special handset that logs in for holiday and logs out when it's over.`
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`19:09.23`	`NTJOCK`	`I just forsee employees not turning phones on if it's manual.`
`19:09.33`	`KeX`	`NTJOCK, I'm thinking about the asterisk built in database`
`19:09.37`	`NTJOCK`	`our Nortel Norstar system use to be manual and we regularly forgot to do it.`
`19:09.46`	`KeX`	`so the values can set via a call from a phone`
`19:09.48`	`generalhan`	`anyone that is familiar with cisco 7960's or remote SIP phones: i was hoping some one could take a look at my config for phone to see if you notice anything wrong, the phone just wont register. http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/374580`
`19:09.55`	`NTJOCK`	`k... if that's easier for you then cool.`
`19:10.10`	`NTJOCK`	`I dont' have a very big operation so it's easier to just modify it when needed.`
`19:10.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KeX: I give all of my custoemrs setups that have stanard working hourse defined, and a force open/close/normal command which they can enable remotely if need be`
`19:10.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KeX: So if theres a massive blizzard they can phone in and set the IVR to "night" mode, etc.`
`19:10.38`	`NTJOCK`	`I like the force open/close idea.... but then someone has to call in and force it closed.`
`19:10.39`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
`19:10.39`	`EmleyMoor`	`Is there a way to store a time in the db which can be compared with the current time when executing a dialplan?#`
`19:10.46`	`KeX`	`NTJOCK, the customer wants to run bout 250 phones`
`19:10.54`	`NTJOCK`	`nice install. :)`
`19:11.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`EmleyMoor: Yes`
`19:11.03`	`NTJOCK`	`makes my 15 phones laughable.`
`19:11.38`	`KeX`	`[TK]D-Fender, how do you realize these commands?`
`19:11.45`	`NTJOCK`	`[TK]D-Fender any suggestions on how to analyze our POTS usage to figure out how many channels we might need.`
`19:12.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`KeX: All gotoIftime & AstDB stuff primarily`
`19:12.34`	`EmleyMoor`	`Presumably I can reference a variable or function in the time fields of a GotoIfTime?`
`19:12.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK: Check your CDR's and run an analysis of their concurrency.`
`19:12.50`	`NTJOCK`	`ok.`
`19:12.54`	`NTJOCK`	`what is a CDR?`
`19:12.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`EmleyMoor: Yes, and check ASIDE from them, yes.`
`19:13.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~cdr`
`19:13.13`	`jbot`	`it has been said that cdr is Call Detail Record, a log of what happens to the call at each step through its traversal of the PBX, details like from, to, time, duration, number dialled etc, useful for billing also - it could also be Compact Disc Recordable, see cdrw`
`19:13.19`	`EmleyMoor`	`"check ASIDE from them"?`
`19:13.29`	`NTJOCK`	`thanks!`
`19:13.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`EmleyMoor: check DB based overrides in a straight GotoIf, not usually with TIME.`
`19:13.51`	`KeX`	`[TK]D-Fender, as I thougt above. k, so I'll try it with that. thanks!`
`19:13.58`	`NTJOCK`	`are there any tools for CDR analysis? This is a new area for me as I've never really needed to do any analysis.`
`19:14.17`	`genz`	`~cdrw`
`19:14.18`	`jbot`	`The Unix CD-Writer compatibility list is at http://www.shop.de/cgi-bin/winni/lsc.pl, or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tutorials/cdrw/index-debian-cdrw.html`
`19:14.20`	`EmleyMoor`	`I doubt I'll need it, TBH, but will look into it`
`19:14.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK: I don't know of any for your specific purpose....`
`19:15.16`	`genz`	`NTJOCK: I've been looking into getting Cacti to graph that, but it hasn't been a pleasant experience so far.`
`19:15.44`	`NTJOCK`	`k`
`19:15.57`	`wunderkin`	`i have not started cacti but it would be nice just to analyze the historical data i already have`
`19:15.58`	`NTJOCK`	`my real motivation is to replace some POTS lines with Teliax channels.`
`19:16.10`	`NTJOCK`	`I've been very pleased with how it has worked so far.`
`19:16.17`	`NTJOCK`	`and we'd save a bundle. :)`
`19:16.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK: How many?`
`19:16.29`	`NTJOCK`	`I have 4 POTS lines..... so maybe 2 of them.`
`19:16.57`	`NTJOCK`	`Just when I re-align our AT(tack)&T(errorize) services we might drop a line altogether.`
`19:17.08`	`NTJOCK`	`I'm not 100% certain we use more then 2 POTS lines at a time usually.`
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`19:17.13`	`NTJOCK`	`to be honest I have no friigin clue.`
`19:17.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NTJOCK: Well be warned that VoIP quality can waver and that most businesses wouldn't want to risk it.`
`19:17.18`	`NTJOCK`	`Great management strategy.`
`19:17.23`	`NTJOCK`	`yea....`
`19:17.29`	`NTJOCK`	`you are correct`
`19:17.49`	`NTJOCK`	`I could pretty easily see us having two pots lines and 4 channels as "rollover/backup"`
`19:18.10`	`NTJOCK`	`that gives us some capacity in both places while optimizing costs`
`19:18.18`	`NTJOCK`	`POTS lines are pricey`
`19:19.00`	`NTJOCK`	`Again, I don't think we use more then 2 lines most of the time.`
`19:19.33`	`NTJOCK`	`so replacing them with IAX channels might be a good replacement and it would net a nice savings while giving me redundancy against what happened yesterday with my TDM400's`
`19:20.14`	`NTJOCK`	`a TDM400 Random Vacation (r) is where your TDM400 stops working right after lunch and then mysteriously starts working again 8 hours later.`
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`19:20.44`	`thinwires`	`hi everyone`
`19:20.53`	`NTJOCK`	`user note: TDM400 Random Vacation (r) will normally invoke the partner(angry) subroutine.`
`19:21.15`	`thinwires`	`I was wondering if someone could help me with a register statement, How do I write one that has a username and password?`
`19:21.24`	`NTJOCK`	`partner being your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, etc... Lol. :)`
`19:21.40`	`NTJOCK`	`thinwires: is it for a specific provider?`
`19:21.44`	`NTJOCK`	`most of them give examples.`
`19:22.02`	`thinwires`	`yeah... it's a small company doing our Voip...`
`19:22.13`	`NTJOCK`	`it's basicallly 'register=> user:pass@server.somewhere.com`
`19:22.18`	`thinwires`	`i know the connection information, but I'm not sure how to write the statement`
`19:22.34`	`thinwires`	`that's all? the book makes it seem more dificult`
`19:22.34`	`NTJOCK`	`that goes in your general.`
`19:22.37`	`NTJOCK`	`yea..`
`19:22.41`	`NTJOCK`	`Teliax has great documentation`
`19:22.43`	`genz`	`NTJOCK: I trained my partner/gf to hear the word VOIP and run out of the room screaming. That's helped a lot.`
`19:22.45`	`NTJOCK`	`and works well.`
`19:23.38`	`wunderkin`	`NTJOCK, genz: i am looking at http://www.digitaldawgpound.org/nick84/post=180 ... trying it out now`
`19:23.42`	`mercestes`	`I was watching "Teen Girl Squad" where they all randomly get killed by some strange phenominon. One of them gets killed by this nerdy dude that "voips" them.`
`19:24.09`	`mercestes`	`obviously nerdy dudes have this cone area of effect radiation wave that goes "VOIP!" when invoked, killing it's victim.`
`19:24.18`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
`19:24.31`	`NTJOCK`	`sort of like the noise most bankers make "FEEEEEEEE"`
`19:24.39`	`mercestes`	`precisely!`
`19:24.45`	`NTJOCK`	`and angry banker normally arches their back and goes "FEEEE" FEEEE`
`19:24.47`	`NTJOCK`	`lol`
`19:25.11`	`NTJOCK`	`at least, unlike, my cat you don't have to worry what they will piss on in retaliation.`
`19:25.26`	`mercestes`	`or shiat inside of......like your shoes.`
`19:25.58`	`NTJOCK`	`right`
`19:26.42`	`mercestes`	`I understand why Egyptians worshipped cats.`
`19:26.47`	`mercestes`	`sometimes, I ponder worshipping them.`
`19:27.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mercestes: Already whipped and lookin' for some tail ;)`
`19:27.40`	`mercestes`	`me or the cats?`
`19:28.05`	`generalhan`	`[TK]D-Fender: so i STILL cant get this stupid 7960 to connect remotely ... i dont know whats going on. im pretty sure i have the NAT addresses set up correctly but it just wont register. when you get a chance could you take a look at my telnet 'show config' from that remote phone to tell me if you see anything terribly wrong? http://generalhan.pastebin.ca/374580`
`19:28.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan: I don't do Cisco... you know that. if you doubt your * configs, show me those....`
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`19:29.02`	`generalhan`	`lol ... i dont ! i think its router issue`
`19:29.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan: Kindly ship me one and I'll be happy to learn ;)`
`19:29.09`	`generalhan`	`lol !`
`19:29.39`	`mercestes`	`I should write an FAQ on why cats are better than girls.`
`19:29.39`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: is there a way to set a new admin or ftp password for polycoms? i.e. they all update, get the new password which they use from now on?`
`19:29.44`	`tzanger`	`I couldn't ifnd anything terribly obvious in the cfg files`
`19:29.58`	`generalhan`	`[TK]D-Fender: ever worked with Aastra's remotely ?`
`19:30.21`	`mercestes`	`tzanger: i will bet there is but I think polycom would have to give it to you. You can change the admin password via config file.`
`19:30.39`	`tzanger`	`mercestes: hmm`
`19:30.44`	`generalhan`	`i may just try that on of the aastra's, then at least ill know if its a NAT problem or phone issue`
`19:32.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: not that I know of. You can supposedly set the user/pass in DHCP though.`
`19:32.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan: No, I've only provisioned 1 480i from tftp local once.`
`19:32.46`	`generalhan`	`its retarded that i can ping the phone, telnet into the phone. and from the phone i can ping the asterisk-side router. but yet it wont register.`
`19:33.01`	`generalhan`	`im getting slightly aggrivated !`
`19:33.23`	`bkruse`	`generalhan: are you sure you have register = 1 on your phone?`
`19:33.33`	`bkruse`	`and also, that means nothing, registration happends on port 5060, that port could be firewalled, easily.`
`19:33.49`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: yeah option 66 lets you do it for http[s] but I'm not wiling to do that just yet :-)`
`19:34.04`	`thinwires`	`telnet to the port 5060, that should say if it's open :-)`
`19:34.05`	`generalhan`	`bkruse: i understand that ... but the ports are forwarded. so it SHOULD be working.`
`19:34.09`	`tzanger`	`thinwires: uh, no`
`19:34.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`thinwires: Telnet is TCP <----`
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`19:34.23`	`tzanger`	`telnet is TCP, SIP is UDP (unless it's sip-tcp)`
`19:34.39`	`thinwires`	`ah, right... forgot, my bad`
`19:34.39`	`tzanger`	`or whatever that tcp variant of sip is, can't remember`
`19:34.54`	`generalhan`	`is there are cmdlet or a tool that will let me do like a ping to a specified UDP port ?`
`19:35.36`	`tzanger`	`generalhan: not really`
`19:35.38`	`tzanger`	`UDP is connectionless`
`19:35.52`	`tzanger`	`you have no way of knowing that there was a response unless the daemon listening replies`
`19:35.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: 2.2.2.1.1.3 Setting Flash Parameters from Configuration Files`
`19:35.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: There`
`19:36.07`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: ooh, let me find my manual`
`19:36.18`	`SplasPood`	`Can anyone give me a hand configuring a Digium TDM800p card? Got the drivers compiled but they seem to hang for quite a long time upon modprobe, then it detects none of the FXO/FXS modules installed (as per my kernel messages)`
`19:36.30`	`generalhan`	`see im checking my IPCop firewall logs and i dont even see an attempt on the router from my phone.`
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`19:37.18`	`thinwires`	`hey guys, I have a stupid question... I am configuring my iax.conf and I'm curious, is the [iaxfwd] section just for passing the calls through from another asterisk box?`
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`19:37.42`	`bkruse`	`thinwires: ha, i can see where your coming from, but not`
`19:37.43`	`active_si`	`hi all!`
`19:37.44`	`generalhan`	`but my little remote Dlink has LAN,* to WAN,* allowed`
`19:37.48`	`bkruse`	`you can make your own iax account to do that`
`19:38.08`	`bkruse`	`[anotherasteriskbox]`
`19:38.09`	`bkruse`	`type=friend`
`19:38.09`	`bkruse`	`etc etc`
`19:38.22`	`bkruse`	`then dial(iax2/anotherasteriskbox/number@context)`
`19:38.30`	`active_si`	`I'd like to know if there is anyway to retreive from CDR if the call was monitored or not?`
`19:38.58`	`thinwires`	`bkruse: ok, do I need to do that if the other asterisk box is my provider?`
`19:39.17`	`genz`	`Should my outgoing caller id have dashes in it?`
`19:39.24`	`cpatry`	`active_si: sure, before starting monitoring, use the cdr userfield.`
`19:39.52`	`bkruse`	`thinwires: thats just to send calls to the other asterisk box, you can set it up however you want`
`19:40.02`	`bkruse`	`that COULD be a provider, it could be just a friends asterisk box`
`19:40.10`	`bkruse`	`where THEY route the call is up to them`
`19:40.35`	`active_si`	`cpatry: thanks, I'll try that`
`19:41.06`	`bkruse`	`thinwires: see what i mean?`
`19:41.12`	`bkruse`	`genz: it can, if you want`
`19:41.25`	`bkruse`	`just dont do sip or iax accounts with dashes :X`
`19:41.26`	`CrashHD`	`hey guys, when I have call-limit = 10 in a big ringall group some phones are hitting this limit`
`19:41.33`	`CrashHD`	`and won't ring`
`19:41.39`	`CrashHD`	`even though they have no additional active calls`
`19:42.12`	`thinwires`	`bkruse: I do, but I'm not sure I fully understand, I wrote the register string for my provider, do I still need to many a type=friend entry for them so I can recieve their calls?`
`19:42.15`	`genz`	`bkruse: i'm getting "all circuits busy" to some numbers, but not all. when i use the c2c.php, i don't get that message, so i'm trying to figure out the source of my problems.`
`19:42.28`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: this is sweet`
`19:42.50`	`rajiv`	`Playback can jump to n+101 if 'j' is given as an option. but if i have exten => s,n,Playback how do i specify the +101 exten ?`
`19:43.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`generalhan: Small warning : Many D-Link router A$$-rape NAT and you might be screwed. Period.`
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`19:43.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rajiv: And why WOULD Playback be jumping?`
`19:43.42`	`rajiv`	`[TK]D-Fender: if the file doesn't exist`
`19:43.48`	`tzanger`	`why on earth does it say not to put this in sip.cfg though`
`19:43.52`	`tzanger`	`I can see not putting the ip address in`
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`19:43.54`	`tzanger`	`but the login?`
`19:44.01`	`rajiv`	`[TK]D-Fender: i made a unavail-exten macro and want to cover my bases`
`19:44.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rajiv: And why wouldn't it? Also there is another app expressly for that purpose`
`19:44.16`	`Mahmoud`	`what's the best free software phone? (being open source is an advantage)`
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`19:44.30`	`rajiv`	`[TK]D-Fender: which app?`
`19:44.32`	`Mahmoud`	`x-lite is cool but has limited features`
`19:44.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: Because its agnoistic to protocol. Don't forget they do MGCP as well.`
`19:44.38`	`bkruse`	`Mahmoud: twinkle!`
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`19:44.48`	`Mahmoud`	`bkruse, trying it =]`
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`19:44.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rajiv: Time to go look on the WIKI and see "what's out there"`
`19:45.08`	`bkruse`	`Mahmoud: twinkle is just all around awesome for testing`
`19:45.13`	`bkruse`	`its just quick and to the point, i love it`
`19:45.30`	`Mahmoud`	`bkruse, for "testing" only?`
`19:45.42`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: ahh good point`
`19:45.47`	`bkruse`	`Mahmoud: nono, its great, it just doesnt look "pretty"`
`19:45.57`	`bkruse`	`but its very fast, and i can test different asterisk features, accounts, codecs, very quickly`
`19:46.11`	`Mahmoud`	`bkruse, i see, but sadly no linux here at the moment`
`19:46.19`	`Mahmoud`	`except the server, freebsd`
`19:46.32`	`eijal`	`HI, I have a Dialogic D/41jct-ls card. I know that I need to pay for driver.........`
`19:46.49`	`rajiv`	`[TK]D-Fender: k i'll poke around. i haven't used 'n' much since i mostly have 1.0.x installations`
`19:47.02`	`tzanger`	`what XML tag do I put the shit in then? <???> <device> <prov> <prov.user="foo"/> <prov.password="bar"/> </prov> </device> </???>`
`19:47.02`	`mercestes`	`freebsd != linux.`
`19:47.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rajiv: so DON'T use "n". I never did...`
`19:47.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`eijal: Probably better off just buying a supported card.`
`19:48.02`	`tzanger`	`hmm probably not <prov> at all, just <device>`
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`19:49.38`	`type0`	`i enjoy netsplits.`
`19:50.37`	`mafkees`	`lol`
`19:50.44`	`Qwell[]`	`I love how the netsplits on freenode are done by channel`
`19:50.48`	`bkruse`	`ha, i love it`
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`19:51.58`	`EmleyMoor`	`Has anyone managed to get dring detection and caller ID working together on BT (UK)?`
`19:51.58`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: this is where I always fail at polycom configs... where the hell to put the info`
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`19:52.40`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm guessing something like <phone1> at this point, or maybe <device>`
`19:53.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: My first guess is each as its won tage without a heirarchy`
`19:53.05`	`rajiv`	`[TK]D-Fender: ah i can use exten => s,n,Goto(s-${PLAYBACKSTATUS},1)`
`19:53.15`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: eh?`
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`19:53.27`	`thinwires`	`hey guys when I try iax2 show registry, what does the dnsmgr field mean? mine says N but it does say I'm registered`
`19:53.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: Each option as its own tag without an owning tag.`
`19:53.37`	`bkruse`	`rajiv: yes, you should be able to use that`
`19:53.47`	`SplasPood`	`when setting up a PRI and doing ztcfg -vv does "ZT_SPANCONFIG failed on span 1: Invalid argument (22)`
`19:53.47`	`SplasPood`	`" imply a config error, or might that just be because there is no PRI currently attached?`
`19:54.32`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: oh, completely bare-assed eh?`
`19:56.04`	`Mahmoud`	`can i use my analog modem interface as a FXO port?`
`19:56.18`	`tzanger`	`Mahmoud: short answer: no`
`19:56.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tzanger: Start there, then start googling ;)`
`19:57.04`	`Mahmoud`	`tzafrir, aren't there some application that allow using modem ports to answer phone calls just like normal phones?`
`19:57.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mahmoud: Odds are : NO.`
`19:58.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mahmoud: * has a Zaptel driver for 1-2 specific kinds of modem. If this isn't what you've got,, then its a no-go situation.`
`19:59.00`	`Vec`	`Anyone got spandSP working with asterisk 1.4 ?`
`19:59.26`	`Mahmoud`	`[TK]D-Fender, so it works only with 2 kinds of modems, and that's why you said "no", but basically it is possible. right?`
`20:00.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mahmoud: On the freak chace the modem you have is of the right kind, yes. But then again you'd probably be luckier getting hit by lightning again.... go head outside :)`
`20:01.13`	`Mahmoud`	`got it`
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`20:02.01`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: neither modem has been made for at least 2 years`
`20:02.17`	`Mahmoud`	`hmmm bad`
`20:02.50`	`Mahmoud`	`can't they just take all modem drivers made for linux and let them work with zaptel`
`20:03.15`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: no.`
`20:04.17`	`ManxPower`	`"voice modems" are not designed for real time full duplex voice. They are designed for high latency, half duplex voice -- perfect for the job they were designed for -- an answering machine.`
`20:04.25`	`generalhan`	`when setting up a remote phone to an asterisk server that is NATed, when i set the nat_address on the remote phone do i use the local WAN ip or the remote ip ?`
`20:04.53`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: you do not set ANY NAT settings on the phone or it will fail to work with nat=yes on the Asterisk box.`
`20:05.06`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: OMG .. what ?`
`20:05.11`	`ManxPower`	`the ONLY thing you might want to set is the NAT Keepalive feature of the phone supports it.`
`20:05.59`	`ManxPower`	`Phone Support for NAT + Asterisk Support for NAT = No support for NAT`
`20:06.18`	`ManxPower`	`I suppose that might not ALWAYS be the case, but it has been in every instance I was stupid and set up the phone for NAT`
`20:06.31`	`generalhan`	`so i need to set Nat_enabled = 0 on the phone ?`
`20:06.38`	`generalhan`	`with nat=yes on the sip entry`
`20:06.39`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: correct.`
`20:06.51`	`mercestes`	`woah. Nice.`
`20:06.58`	`mercestes`	`I learned something too.. ;)`
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`20:07.02`	`ManxPower`	`nat=yes tells asterisk to get the IP adddress from the packet header, not from the internal SIP header.`
`20:07.09`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: if i had nat set on the phone what would "happen" ?`
`20:07.22`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: for me it simply did not work.`
`20:07.36`	`generalhan`	`im trying to get this stupid 7960 to register and it wont ... but im not even seeing an attempt on the asterisk-side router from that ip`
`20:07.38`	`thinwires`	`I'm using iax, should I add that to the .conf file? nat=yes ?`
`20:07.47`	`ManxPower`	`but since each phone does nat stuff differently who knows`
`20:07.50`	`generalhan`	`so it was making me think that i needed to change something on the remote router`
`20:08.03`	`ManxPower`	`thinwires: iax.conf requries no special NAT support, and therefore does not support nat= option`
`20:08.08`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: which phones are you referring to then ?`
`20:08.36`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: X-Lite is the only I recall, but I may have also tried it with grandstream. IT was YEARS ago.`
`20:08.45`	`thinwires`	`manxpower: ok thanks, but that means that IAX does support NAT thought right?`
`20:08.53`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: is Asterisk behind NAT.`
`20:09.09`	`ManxPower`	`thinwires: IAX supports NAT with no special options required.`
`20:09.10`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: yes`
`20:09.21`	`generalhan`	`behind an IPCop box`
`20:09.23`	`thinwires`	`Good, thankyou.`
`20:09.40`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: And you have localnet=, externip= set and portforwarded UDP ports 10000 - 20000 on the NAT router to the Asterisk server.`
`20:09.53`	`wunderkin`	`ok, great... i downgrade all phones to 1.6.7 the day before last.. yesterday was great but today i had another phone reboot, this is what is in the app-log file... http://www.pastebin.ca/374734`
`20:10.11`	`ManxPower`	`also no special NAT SIP stuff on the NAT router that the phone is behind and no special nat settings on the phone.`
`20:10.27`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: i have ports 5060-5061 and 60 for tftp and the rtp ports from rtp.conf`
`20:10.52`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: close enough. 5061 will never be used`
`20:11.17`	`ManxPower`	`BTW, TFTP is UDP port 69`
`20:11.21`	`ManxPower`	`that might be your problem`
`20:11.52`	`ManxPower`	`grep tftp /etc/services`
`20:13.02`	`aydiosmio`	`when I Dial wW, all I see is Attempting native bridge when I dial *1, nothing shows up in /var/spool/asterisk/monitor, what gives?`
`20:13.14`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: what are your actual localnet and externip settings`
`20:14.05`	`Vec`	`Anyone got spandSP working with asterisk 1.4 ?`
`20:14.22`	`generalhan`	`one sec ill checkl`
`20:14.52`	`Qwell[]`	`~centosbug`
`20:14.53`	`jbot`	`[centosbug] a problem with the 2.6.9-42 kernels prior to 2.6.9-42.0.1. If you can't compile zaptel, do a 'yum update', you're running an old kernel. If you HAVE to run an old kernel, the fix is "sed -i s/rw_lock/rwlock/ /usr/src/kernels/*/include/linux/spinlock.h"`
`20:14.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: And is it uncommented in features.conf, and di you set the automon var before your dial?`
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`20:15.41`	`thinwires`	`hey, when I'm writing the extension.conf, should I use IAX or IAX2 when writing an extension? (i'm pretty sure it's IAX2)`
`20:15.41`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: for the localnet its the 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0, and for the externip, should i have the WAN ip of the asterisk-side router ? or the WAN ip of the remote router ?`
`20:15.41`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah, exten => s,n,SetVar(DYNAMIC_FEATURES=automon)`
`20:15.42`	`aydiosmio`	`automon => *1; One Touch Record`
`20:16.25`	`SplasPood`	`modprobe on wctdm24xxp seems to hang for quite a long time then eventually detects no modules.. anyone have any thoughts?`
`20:16.44`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: the public IP address of the connection.`
`20:16.53`	`aydiosmio`	`weird, none of the featurmaps work`
`20:16.56`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: The Asterisk box is not the box doing NAT, is it?`
`20:17.00`	`generalhan`	`yup thats how im setup`
`20:17.07`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: can you log into voicemail.`
`20:17.13`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: no IPCop box at the edge of the net`
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`20:17.24`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: so far no dice... trying a <device> wrapper`
`20:17.31`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: rahter: No, there is an IPCop box at the edge`
`20:17.41`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: can you log into voicemail from that phone?`
`20:17.44`	`aydiosmio`	`this is an external sip call, no vm set up`
`20:17.45`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: oh wai,t might have to try device.set=1 first`
`20:17.56`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: well set it up. I`
`20:17.58`	`aydiosmio`	`does it need to be an internal extension?`
`20:18.06`	`ManxPower`	`I bet you have a DTMF problem, not an automon problem`
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`20:18.30`	`ManxPower`	`the best way to test it is to try to log into voicemail`
`20:19.36`	`aydiosmio`	`what dtmf mode should the call leg have to use W on Dial?`
`20:19.52`	`thinwires`	`hey guys, If I have 4 lines from my provider then does that mean that I have 4 outbound IAX channels to use? ie IAX2/1, IAX2/2 etc..`
`20:19.53`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: any mode that works.`
`20:20.10`	`ManxPower`	`there is nothing special about w or any other opton.`
`20:20.28`	`ManxPower`	`inband DTMF only works with ulaw/alaw codecs, for example.`
`20:20.30`	`aydiosmio`	`well I can get input with GET DATA on the incoming call`
`20:20.56`	`aydiosmio`	`but when I Dial wW debug just spits out -- Attempting native bridge of SIP/aydiosmio-09c7fe38 ...`
`20:20.58`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: RFC2833 would be the preferred dtmfmode, but that does not work with all providers.`
`20:21.18`	`ManxPower`	`With G726, for example DTMF will work most of the time, but not all the time.`
`20:21.41`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: then chances are you don't have a DTMF problem and you have some other problem.`
`20:21.49`	`aydiosmio`	`yea...`
`20:22.10`	`ManxPower`	`thinwires: you do not number the channels, asterisk does that for you.`
`20:22.38`	`ManxPower`	`thinwires: and you don't have "4 IAX lines", you are "limited to 4 iax calls at the same time"`
`20:23.15`	`thinwires`	`ok, that's what I thought... I'm just trying to figure out these conf files :-) ty`
`20:23.54`	`aydiosmio`	`this is bunk`
`20:24.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Silly thought. Add "tT" and test`
`20:24.32`	`generalhan`	`ok im off to lunch bbiab`
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`20:25.34`	`lymers`	`just curious, by default what is the bind key when using transfer?`
`20:25.45`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: nothing`
`20:26.25`	`aydiosmio`	`no debug output on ##, which is the blind xfer featurecode`
`20:27.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Time to pastebin EVERYTHING.`
`20:27.48`	`aydiosmio`	`shit`
`20:33.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`o<O`
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`20:34.27`	`wunderkin`	`is anyone using a polycom phone and not using a directory file? if i did not touch the -phone.cfg and -directory.xml file, sometimes it kept trying to retreive the file and was adding like 10 mins to the startup.. but i had a phone just reset and the first thing it said was that it could not read the local directory file on the flash... dont know why that just comes up now.. should i just make a blank xml file? such as <blah> </blah>`
`20:36.05`	`SplasPood`	`ugh this TDM800P is killing me`
`20:36.24`	`SplasPood`	`it seems to see the card fine, but none of the 6 modules are detected`
`20:37.59`	`SplasPood`	`(total of 8)`
`20:38.12`	`SplasPood`	`could this be a machine compat issue, ie hardware problems?`
`20:38.23`	`SplasPood`	`I know the card needed extra juice, which is hooked up..`
`20:39.08`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin: we do not use directory files`
`20:39.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin: Kill all the entries ont he phone, kill the provisioning overrides, pull the plug & hard-boot`
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`20:39.35`	`ManxPower`	`we do leave the default 00000000000-directory.xml on the tftp servers`
`20:39.49`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin: polycoms do NOT like even the smallest formatting error in their config files.`
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`20:41.03`	`wunderkin`	`well the last time i was there and we had 2.1.0 on, i did a factory reset and a format... now i changed back to 1.6.7... it was taking forever if i did not have a -phone or a -directory file so i touched them.. that fixed the intermittant slow boot but apparantly it does not like that now.. maybe i need to make some kind of blank directory in xml`
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`20:41.29`	`Strom_M`	`there's 2.1.0 now?`
`20:41.38`	`wunderkin`	`yeah for a little while`
`20:41.59`	`Strom_M`	`oh`
`20:42.05`	`Strom_M`	`god, am i out of teh loop`
`20:42.05`	`ManxPower`	`We use 1.6.7 on all 100+ polycoms we have`
`20:42.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin: I hope you are running on a completely different sip.cfg etc... otherwise boom`
`20:42.14`	`wunderkin`	`yes.. :D`
`20:42.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_M: Been a few weeks. Its great. MicroBrowser on IP 430/501`
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`20:42.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_M: Tables support, etc.`
`20:43.15`	`wunderkin`	`yups among other things, 2.1.0 seemed to fix our reboots but somewhere within those previous past 2 months or so we started having problems with the keys.. ugh! yesterday was the first time we've had for awhile that they didn't have problems with the keys anymore`
`20:45.58`	`wunderkin`	`maybe i should make a change in the -phone.cfg file also... i named mine -registration.cfg.. per the config file maint guide it says not to use -phone.cfg.... so i touched the -phone.cfg file so the phone can upload its own later... and so it did not have intermittant slow boots...`
`20:46.18`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin: there is something ELSE wrong. Nobody I know has had this many problems with the Polycoms`
`20:47.09`	`wunderkin`	`heh yeah tell me about it.. the weird thing is this one lady has had like 3 phones.. ive kept swaping them out... there were others with problems too... some more than others...`
`20:47.13`	`ManxPower`	`empty files could easily cause a problem`
`20:47.43`	`wunderkin`	`maybe either not use -registration.cfg and keep the same -phone.cfg like you have manx...`
`20:48.31`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin: the closer you are to know known good working config the higher your chances are of getting a good working config.`
`20:48.47`	`wunderkin`	`yes i should have just done that`
`20:49.10`	`wunderkin`	`so much for following their instructions :P`
`20:54.24`	`mafkees`	`I bet it has some fufme gear in it`
`20:54.25`	`lymers`	`is there a blind transfer code?`
`20:54.46`	`mafkees`	`lymers: by default it's # but you can change it in features.conf`
`20:55.05`	`lymers`	`i thought that was the screened transfer button?`
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`20:55.27`	`iewebguy`	`ok`
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`20:57.35`	`iewebguy`	`Hello, I just installed a new PRI and my telco is rejecting local calls (with 7 digits) "cause code 28 received" calls with 11 digits work fine. Has anyone seen this b4?`
`20:58.25`	`NTJOCK`	`In * when you do show sip show channel #, it says their codec, our codec.`
`20:59.05`	`NTJOCK`	`where can I find out what those codec numbers mean?`
`20:59.05`	`aydiosmio`	`show codecs`
`20:59.05`	`NTJOCK`	`k`
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`20:59.27`	`NTJOCK`	`aydiosmio thanks!`
`20:59.33`	`NTJOCK`	`any idea what 268 adds up to? :(`
`20:59.48`	`aydiosmio`	`...`
`21:00.06`	`russellb`	`16?`
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`21:00.30`	`aydiosmio`	`I thkn he means bitwise`
`21:00.38`	`NTJOCK`	`yea I do`
`21:00.40`	`aydiosmio`	`which is 256 and 32`
`21:00.42`	`NTJOCK`	`I need to map it by hand`
`21:00.48`	`aydiosmio`	`as if that were a difficult feat`
`21:00.52`	`NTJOCK`	`nah, that's 288`
`21:01.09`	`aydiosmio`	`oh 268`
`21:01.10`	`NTJOCK`	`I remember doing netmask crap that when you map it out it makes sense`
`21:01.18`	`aydiosmio`	`it's bitmask`
`21:01.57`	`russellb`	`100001100`
`21:01.57`	`aydiosmio`	`256 4 8`
`21:02.05`	`NTJOCK`	`yes and in networking it's called a netmask.`
`21:02.08`	`NTJOCK`	`russelb thx!`
`21:02.18`	`NTJOCK`	`you saved me the headache of doing it by hand...although I had the table drawn`
`21:02.19`	`NTJOCK`	`:)`
`21:02.31`	`russellb`	`aydiosmio had a better answer, really`
`21:02.32`	`russellb`	`:)`
`21:03.03`	`NTJOCK`	`aydiosmio had what I really wanted...which is what codecs does a polycom 301 support according to my * box`
`21:03.13`	`NTJOCK`	`and that is ulaw,alaw, and g729`
`21:03.16`	`NTJOCK`	`interesting`
`21:03.20`	`n\|cotine`	`Has anyone else ran into issues with some of asterisk-sounds just not working?`
`21:03.23`	`aydiosmio`	`729, 711`
`21:03.23`	`NTJOCK`	`isn't g729 the licensed ones?`
`21:03.29`	`aydiosmio`	`yes`
`21:03.46`	`lymers`	`does anyone know on the spa941 if you can rearrange the soft keys?`
`21:03.47`	`aydiosmio`	`g729 and g723 are both licensed codecs`
`21:03.47`	`n\|cotine`	`For example, letters/s, letters/h not plaing?`
`21:04.39`	`ManxPower`	`If there is anyone near New Orleans that is looking for full time work, please /msg me.`
`21:05.21`	`thinwires`	`I'm having problems in New Orleans, is that any help? :-)`
`21:06.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lymers: Nope, the phone does what the phone does, and thats about it...`
`21:07.14`	`lymers`	`err... seems like u should be able to change them around`
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`21:09.09`	`aydiosmio`	`hm okay, how about this instead exten => s,n,Dial(SIP/12127773456@70.42.18.6,,M(testmacro))`
`21:09.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`lymers: And why is that?`
`21:09.19`	`aydiosmio`	`macro runs, but the call never bridges`
`21:09.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Is your server behind NAT?`
`21:09.43`	`aydiosmio`	`no`
`21:09.56`	`lymers`	`because i can turn some of them off, and they dont appear... but i still have to scroll through the softbuttons to get the one i want... even though there is nothing in front of it`
`21:10.01`	`aydiosmio`	`Call bridges fine without the M()`
`21:10.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Have you disabled reinvites globally?`
`21:10.09`	`creature_`	`Hmmoh, this is odd. i get an error message from chan.c that reads "Asked to transmit frame type 4, while native formats is 0x1 (g723)(1) read/write = 0x1 (g723)(1)/0x1 (g723)(1)" anyone has any idea on what that means?`
`21:10.18`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: I might have.`
`21:10.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creature_: * is trying to transcode to G.723 and can't because your system doesn't support that codec`
`21:11.18`	`creature_`	`thanks d-fender`
`21:11.35`	`creature_`	`i have compiled the asterisk myself, i must have missed something?`
`21:11.38`	`tzanger`	`woowoo`
`21:12.03`	`d00gster`	`anythoughts on AsteriskNow vs. TrixBox .... rpath is limited to the packages on the system so I'm leaning towards Trix but wonder which offers more control via the gui`
`21:12.08`	`creature_`	`or it might be a sip.conf setting?`
`21:12.08`	`tzanger`	`I thought I fucked up my board... had #BYTE wired to GND instead of +V... u;pon much more careful inspection and worrying over how the hell I'm gonna fix that, I discover it's not wrong at all :-)`
`21:12.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creature_: No, * simply doesn't have support for G.723. Have whatever you are trying to use with it use a SUPPORTED codec.`
`21:13.05`	`tzanger`	`[TK]D-Fender: trunk has it I htink`
`21:13.09`	`tzanger`	`at least I've got a codec_g723.so`
`21:13.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`WAREZ!@!@@`
`21:13.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:O`
`21:13.25`	`tzanger`	`no`
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`21:13.30`	`Qwell[]`	`tzanger: nope, you have a format_g723`
`21:13.34`	`tzanger`	`ohhhhh okay`
`21:13.36`	`tzanger`	`haha`
`21:13.41`	`tzanger`	`does that mean I have af ormat g729 as well?`
`21:13.47`	`Qwell[]`	`yeah`
`21:13.56`	`tzanger`	`when I downgraded to 1.4 from trunk it said g729 and g723 were there and should be removed`
`21:14.29`	`creature_`	`[TK]D-Fender: For the user that handles incoming calls?`
`21:14.35`	`Qwell[]`	`because 1.4 didn't install them`
`21:14.40`	`Qwell[]`	`ie; stop using pirated codecs :P`
`21:14.48`	`Qwell[]`	`(I'm kidding, obviously)`
`21:14.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creature_: For whatever device generated that warning.`
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`21:15.27`	`creature_`	`ok, thanks`
`21:15.29`	`ManxPower`	`creature_: do NOT put allow=all in sip.conf.`
`21:15.36`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: i wont :)`
`21:15.43`	`ManxPower`	`creature_: put disallow=all and then an allow= like for each codec you want to allow.`
`21:15.47`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: i have`
`21:15.55`	`creature_`	`thanks`
`21:16.07`	`ManxPower`	`you have an allow=g723 line?`
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`21:16.38`	`Blackhold`	`hello`
`21:16.45`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: i'll check`
`21:17.05`	`ManxPower`	`If you do then remove it`
`21:17.08`	`creature_`	`Yes, for one user`
`21:17.10`	`creature_`	`:/`
`21:17.23`	`creature_`	`yeah i'll try with that`
`21:18.09`	`SplasPood`	`Does anyone know if a TDM800P not detecting its line interface modules might be related to low power on the additional power connection?`
`21:18.30`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: Dial didn't like that M() had a Monitor in it I suppose, as swappingit with NoOp() allows the call to bridge`
`21:18.31`	`creature_`	`g723 is supported by my sip provider though`
`21:18.47`	`aydiosmio`	`ha`
`21:19.11`	`ManxPower`	`SplasPood: I doubt it.`
`21:19.31`	`ManxPower`	`creature_: that does not matter. All transcoding points must support it and since Asterisk does not support it.`
`21:19.49`	`aydiosmio`	`you'd need to passthru!`
`21:19.50`	`ManxPower`	`SplasPood: cat /proc/interrupts does not show any sharing?`
`21:19.54`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: ah, ok.`
`21:19.59`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: he doesn't know enough to do passthru`
`21:20.09`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: :)`
`21:20.59`	`SplasPood`	`ManxPower: nope, interrupts look good`
`21:21.21`	`SplasPood`	`ManxPower: modprobe also hangs on module insertion.. for quite some time.. then eventually completes with all 8 ports being non-installed`
`21:21.34`	`file`	`SplasPood: is this the Digium one?`
`21:21.35`	`SplasPood`	`ManxPower: I've got 4 x FXO and 2xFXS installed`
`21:21.37`	`SplasPood`	`file: yes`
`21:21.52`	`file`	`SplasPood: have you contacted technical support?`
`21:21.58`	`SplasPood`	`file: not as of yet...`
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`21:22.13`	`SplasPood`	`file: I was hoping someone here might be able to point me in the right direction first...`
`21:22.20`	`SplasPood`	`file: whats their turn around time usually like`
`21:22.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`creature_: I support the idea that my bank owes me $1,000,000. They DON'T support this unfortunately.`
`21:22.45`	`Qwell[]`	`SplasPood: what version of zaptel?`
`21:22.52`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: 1.2.13`
`21:22.55`	`Qwell[]`	`upgrade`
`21:22.59`	`SplasPood`	`to..?`
`21:23.04`	`file`	`1.2.14`
`21:23.04`	`Qwell[]`	`1.2.14`
`21:23.31`	`Blackhold`	`I have an asterisk server connected to an other via iax, but now the users defined to that server could not call them`
`21:23.41`	`SplasPood`	`oh, heh.. must've missed that release`
`21:23.51`	`lymers`	`is there a way to determine how long it takes * to pickup a line once it rings?`
`21:23.54`	`Blackhold`	`but I can make calls outside to the telephone network`
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`21:23.58`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: any specific reason, or just generally better to be running the latest`
`21:24.07`	`Qwell[]`	`the CHANGELOG says why :p`
`21:24.09`	`Qwell[]`	`I think`
`21:24.21`	`Blackhold`	`I have the users defined to the sip.conf and the context of these users to the extensions.conf`
`21:24.22`	`thinwires`	`lol@d-fend my bank doesn't support that either unfortunately`
`21:24.23`	`file`	`it does, there was a fix specifically for the TDM800P`
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`21:24.46`	`Qwell[]`	`* wctdm24xxp.c: Fix detection of second single port modules so it`
`21:24.46`	`Qwell[]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:25.41`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: hrm.. that sounds promising.. although it doesn't detect any of my modules.. single or not.. but I'm compiling now`
`21:25.48`	`aydiosmio`	`canreinvite=no globally, can't Monitor() from a macro called from Dial(M(macro))`
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`21:26.21`	`aydiosmio`	`everything else bridges execpt a macro with Monitor in it`
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`21:26.57`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: actually M() will catch a single dtmf and try to go to that extension.`
`21:27.10`	`ManxPower`	`For the most part that makes M() totally useless for my needs.`
`21:27.18`	`aydiosmio`	`ManxPower: that doesn't seem to be the case though`
`21:27.26`	`aydiosmio`	`M() executes the macro on connect`
`21:27.37`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: correct.`
`21:27.40`	`aydiosmio`	`and then the call bridges-- unless there's a Monitor in the macro`
`21:27.50`	`emiquelito`	`hello all! I have asterisk 1.2.11 installed in one of my servers but the Playback application is missing on it, can anyone tell me how to include this application there?`
`21:27.55`	`ManxPower`	`then if you try to read DTMF inside the macro while the call is bridged it won't work`
`21:28.17`	`ManxPower`	`emiquelito: "show application playback" in the Asteirsk CLI`
`21:28.49`	`ManxPower`	`emiquelito: I have never in 5 years of using Asterisk heard of playback not being installed in an otherwise working system.`
`21:28.56`	`aydiosmio`	`this has got to be related to Ww not working`
`21:29.11`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: rebooting now... after recompiling and installing it seems that it loaded quicker but still saw no mods.. rebooting to be certain`
`21:29.25`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: try **1`
`21:29.31`	`ManxPower`	`the first * is to get out of the macro`
`21:29.48`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: sounds like he did a noload, or autoload=no`
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`21:30.04`	`emiquelito`	`ManxPower show application playback returns: Your application(s) is (are) not registered`
`21:30.04`	`Qwell[]`	`(of app_playback.so, that is)`
`21:30.09`	`Blackvel`	`hi all`
`21:30.20`	`emiquelito`	`ManxPower any clue?`
`21:30.22`	`genz`	`NTJOCK: still there?`
`21:30.50`	`ManxPower`	`emiquelito: is there an app_playback.so in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules`
`21:31.42`	`emiquelito`	`ManxPower yeap, so I show load it, hmmm`
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`21:32.11`	`ManxPower`	`emiquelito: look in /etc/asterisk/modules.conf for a noload => app_playback.so or an autoload=no just like Qwell[] said.`
`21:32.36`	`emiquelito`	`o yeah, thanks a lot and Qwell[], thanks a lot too =)`
`21:33.42`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: seems to be the same situation.. rebooted.. its def loading 1.2.14 now.. but it hangs after Resetting Modules...`
`21:34.02`	`Qwell[]`	`SplasPood: then you really should call support`
`21:34.19`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: I suppose so`
`21:34.41`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: think I could get someone on the phone if I called right now?`
`21:34.46`	`Qwell[]`	`sure`
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`21:35.57`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: well I just thought of something else.. if I bought it via a reseller they won't talk to me, will they?`
`21:36.02`	`Qwell[]`	`sure`
`21:36.05`	`SplasPood`	`oh ok`
`21:36.05`	`SplasPood`	`cool`
`21:36.09`	`Qwell[]`	`a warranty is a warranty`
`21:37.02`	`aydiosmio`	`OH dear GOD`
`21:37.13`	`aydiosmio`	`* glibc detected * double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x09c1e9a0 ***`
`21:37.14`	`aydiosmio`	`Aborted (core dumped)`
`21:37.44`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: it sucks to be you.`
`21:38.13`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah I dunno what happened, I Park through the M(), it timed out and attempted a re-connect`
`21:38.21`	`aydiosmio`	`is circuit-busy and BAM`
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`21:39.40`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: what DOES your M() macro do anyway? Seems to me like nothing that can't be done without the hassle of M()`
`21:40.36`	`aydiosmio`	`here's what I want to do. Answer incoming SIP, Dial out and listen for DTMF to trigger a Monitor and write the monitor details to a custom CDR`
`21:40.52`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: i fixed the problem with the codec.. the other problem i have is that i get stuttering voice.. didnt have that problem with 1.2`
`21:41.27`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: doesn't sound like you need M() for that.`
`21:41.27`	`aydiosmio`	`wW is a basic functionailty of what I want, but I REALLY want to be able to M() to a Monitor so I can do other AGI crap during the call`
`21:42.03`	`genz`	`Anybody using Cacti and have a T1 and wants to try out my script to monitor usage?`
`21:42.07`	`aydiosmio`	`other wise I use wW and I can't match the recording to a call record`
`21:42.25`	`aydiosmio`	`wW doens't work anyway`
`21:42.47`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: why not? Use ${UNIQUEID} in the Monitor filename and log ${UNIQUEID} to the CDR as well.`
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`21:43.05`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: it would if you weren't using M() 8-)`
`21:43.21`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: seems thats the wrong driver for this card`
`21:43.28`	`aydiosmio`	`how do I give wW a filename?`
`21:43.38`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: you Set() a variable before the Dial.`
`21:43.42`	`ManxPower`	`"show application monitor"`
`21:43.43`	`Qwell[]`	`eh?`
`21:43.49`	`aydiosmio`	`gotcha`
`21:44.08`	`aydiosmio`	`this might be a problem`
`21:44.14`	`Qwell[]`	`SplasPood: what?`
`21:44.22`	`ManxPower`	`automon should have similar options`
`21:45.00`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: digium guy says he thinks the TDM800P now has its own driver... dunno.. he's compiling SVN 1.2 zap now`
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`21:45.23`	`ManxPower`	`aydiosmio: what version of Asterisk?`
`21:45.25`	`Qwell[]`	`SplasPood: tell him Qwell says no. :P`
`21:45.27`	`aydiosmio`	`1.2.13`
`21:45.38`	`Qwell[]`	`it's just a module alias`
`21:46.10`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: yea he says he knows`
`21:46.28`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: says the SVN has some TDM800 fixes.. I dunno`
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`21:49.10`	`SplasPood`	`Qwell[]: heh, I think I'm going to be escalated :-/`
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`21:54.46`	`pigpen2`	`Hi all..I have a "pristine" DS3 (full bandwidth) with a IAX trunk running ULAW over it. Occasionally, I get chopping. Would you think that dropping this down to GSM would help the issue?`
`21:55.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`pigpen2 : how many simultaneous channels?`
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`21:57.00`	`PaulTech85`	`Is there any time functions in Asterisk dialplan?`
`21:57.06`	`PaulTech85`	`Such as now()/time() ?`
`21:57.21`	`PaulTech85`	`I need to record the time between two things`
`21:57.40`	`PaulTech85`	`such as 1,Var=Now() 2,Dial 3,Var2=Now()`
`21:58.38`	`PaulTech85`	`EPOCH() ;)`
`21:58.41`	`PaulTech85`	`thanks, im retarded`
`22:02.47`	`PaulTech85`	`How do I make something trigger after hangup`
`22:02.50`	`PaulTech85`	`Oh... 'h' ?`
`22:03.46`	`creature_`	`PaulTech85: for example you can do it like this`
`22:04.12`	`creature_`	`exten => xxxx,1,something`
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`22:04.21`	`creature_`	`exten => xxxx,1,Hangup`
`22:04.50`	`PaulTech85`	`Sorry, I think I asked wrong question`
`22:04.53`	`creature_`	`oh, fs im like drunk :D`
`22:04.57`	`creature_`	`that wouldnt work`
`22:05.05`	`creature_`	`you want to like.. execute an agi script after hangup?`
`22:06.35`	`PaulTech85`	`I want to set a variable after 'Dial' has ended`
`22:06.35`	`PaulTech85`	`Yes, same idea`
`22:06.37`	`Defend`	`i was woundering if some one could take a look at a cdr snipet and possible explain the durations and the flow of the call a little bit`
`22:06.37`	`Defend`	`http://pastebin.ca/374938`
`22:06.37`	`PaulTech85`	`I guess the 'h' is what I need`
`22:06.40`	`creature_`	`PaulTech85: You are right, h gets executed after a call has been terminated.`
`22:06.40`	`PaulTech85`	`Ok`
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`22:06.40`	`ManxPower`	`pigpen: I doubt it.`
`22:09.49`	`PaulTech85`	`Is there any module for direct mysql intergration?`
`22:10.02`	`PaulTech85`	`Such as MySQL(insert into blah)`
`22:10.02`	`PaulTech85`	`?`
`22:10.06`	`PaulTech85`	`I recall there used to be`
`22:10.41`	`PaulTech85`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+MYSQL`
`22:11.16`	`ManxPower`	`PaulTech85: see asterisk-addons`
`22:11.29`	`PaulTech85`	`Yep :-)`
`22:11.36`	`PaulTech85`	`app_addon_sql_mysql I'm guessing`
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`22:14.11`	`AJaymn`	`im having an issue briding calls.. If i call into my box, and have it call out on another trunk to an outside line it disconnects after 2 secs.. everytime.. but if i call from inside the box out the same trunk its fine...`
`22:15.36`	`ManxPower`	`AJaymn: try canreinvite=no in sip.conf`
`22:15.51`	`ManxPower`	`I assume you are using SIP, since you didn't say WHAT tech you are using.`
`22:16.10`	`AJaymn`	`correct SIP`
`22:16.15`	`mafkees`	`can+rope`
`22:17.28`	`AJaymn`	`OH GESH!!! It works :P`
`22:17.28`	`mafkees`	`would be a nice new channeltype`
`22:17.32`	`AJaymn`	`thanks ManxPower`
`22:17.40`	`mafkees`	`chan_canandcord.so`
`22:18.14`	`Strom_M`	`i used to make my TC100P joke ("tin can PCI interface") until i discovered the tc400b :)`
`22:18.17`	`ManxPower`	`AJaymn: send your thanks using cash to eric@fnords.org via paypal`
`22:18.26`	`AJaymn`	`heh`
`22:18.32`	`AJaymn`	`.02 cents right? ;)`
`22:19.01`	`mafkees`	`if you ok with the 2 buck paypal commission ;)`
`22:19.45`	`creature_`	`am i able to choose what codec i want to use on my calls, or is this something that is choosed by my sip isp?`
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`22:20.11`	`mafkees`	`you can choose your own, as long as the codec is supported by your sip ITSP as well`
`22:20.13`	`creature_`	`i really dont understand the codec bit.. how to see what codec is currently used etc.`
`22:20.45`	`ManxPower`	`creature_: "sip show channels"`
`22:20.51`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: thanks alot`
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`22:21.34`	`PaulTech85`	`How can I figure out when a call is bridged in the dialplan?`
`22:21.36`	`pigpen`	`ManxPower, k..thanks...I may try a sip trunk.....what do you think?`
`22:22.15`	`ManxPower`	`pigpen: there is no such thing as a "sip trunk"`
`22:22.35`	`PaulTech85`	`Example, I want to get the time of when a call is bridged`
`22:22.40`	`PaulTech85`	`Is a dial macro possible?`
`22:22.49`	`pigpen`	`I thought you could do a sip trunk...or whatever the correct term is....`
`22:23.12`	`ManxPower`	`pigpen: We had no end of audio dropouts with IAX2, even with QoS on a point-to-point T-1. We switched to SIP and have had no audio issues on the same link.`
`22:23.42`	`ManxPower`	`pigpen: SIP is SIP. Regardless of how many calls a SIP device handles.`
`22:23.45`	`PaulTech85`	`Hmm`
`22:24.01`	`pigpen`	`So trying sip is a bad idea/`
`22:24.01`	`pigpen`	`?`
`22:24.05`	`PaulTech85`	`M(x): Executes the macro (x) upon connect of the call (i.e. when the called party answers)`
`22:24.22`	`ManxPower`	`pigpen: no. I just said when we switched to SIP all our audio problems went away`
`22:24.32`	`pigpen`	`ah....sorry read it wrong.`
`22:25.00`	`pigpen`	`I have never done a sip "link" from server to server...but I guess it won't be the first time I tried something new....`
`22:25.05`	`pigpen`	`(to me anyway)`
`22:25.10`	`pigpen`	`I will give it a shot.`
`22:25.35`	`PaulTech85`	`Crap how do I globalize a variable?`
`22:26.03`	`PaulTech85`	`Oh`
`22:26.06`	`PaulTech85`	`SetGlobalVar`
`22:26.10`	`PaulTech85`	`Sorry...`
`22:28.05`	`Strom_M`	`SetLOL()`
`22:28.22`	`Strom_M`	`${ROFL(omg)}`
`22:28.37`	`PaulTech85`	`;p`
`22:28.48`	`PaulTech85`	`So far I've asked 4 questions and answered all`
`22:28.52`	`PaulTech85`	`I'm a fucking self help group`
`22:30.21`	`pigpen`	`I wonder what your "Group Therapy" is like....`
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`22:32.14`	`tmccrary`	`with call queues, I keep getting: '2102@default' is not valid for automatic login of agent '1001'`
`22:32.23`	`tmccrary`	`Even though I have an extension 2102 that works`
`22:32.38`	`tmccrary`	`is that extension in the dial plan or a client that is registered?`
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`22:34.18`	`creature_`	`do i need to specify codecs for all of my users or only for the general context?`
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`22:36.34`	`PaulTech85`	`Hmmm, if two people hit the same context at the same time`
`22:36.39`	`PaulTech85`	`with global variables 'fuck up' ?`
`22:36.53`	`tmccrary`	`bah, this is retarded`
`22:37.05`	`PaulTech85`	`Should I set the variable like SetGlobalVar(starttime${EXTEN}=${EPOCH}) ?`
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`22:41.59`	`Corydon-w`	`PaulTech85: why are you using global variables?`
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`22:44.41`	`active_si`	`how can I run a command after the call has been hungup... I have put the commands in the "macro-hangupcall" after the "Hangup()" command but they don't get executed`
`22:46.39`	`tmccrary`	`Is there a command that will let me capture dmtf input from the user?`
`22:47.12`	`bkruse`	`active_si: put the h extension in there`
`22:47.14`	`bkruse`	`tmccrary: read`
`22:47.27`	`errr`	`how can you tell if you have a PRI setup correctly?`
`22:49.17`	`active_si`	`bkruse: so I set "exten => h,n,<command>" ?`
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`22:49.30`	`tmccrary`	`bkruse: thank you`
`22:49.43`	`errr`	`when I run pri show span 1 from asterisk cli I get no PRI running on span 1, but Im not sure how to trouble shoot the issue`
`22:51.57`	`creature_`	`active_si: yes`
`22:53.15`	`creature_`	`active_si: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+h+extension`
`22:53.35`	`creature_`	`there you will find loads of other information aswell, that wiki are great.`
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`22:54.21`	`jaxxan`	`hey guys`
`22:54.31`	`bigred`	`does freeworlddialup let me call regular phones?`
`22:54.53`	`jaxxan`	`i'm currently running 1.2.12.1 and i'm having a bitch of a time getting 1.2.15 to compile`
`22:55.34`	`jaxxan`	`hey qwell does the business or enterprise support versions have an option to change voicemail menu options ?`
`22:56.36`	`jaxxan`	`i'm currently testing a voicemail only box with 200 users, but eh... management wants to chance the menu structure a little bit.`
`22:56.45`	`jaxxan`	`chance=change`
`22:56.58`	`jaxxan`	`i told them no, but damnit they wont leave me alone about it`
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`22:58.44`	`mercestes`	`jaxxan: Could do some massive dialplan magic`
`22:59.25`	`jaxxan`	`my current dialplan is 41 lines`
`22:59.44`	`jaxxan`	`and man, that just sounds like a bitch`
`23:00.14`	`mafkees`	`or alter app_voicemail.c`
`23:00.56`	`techie`	`lots of fun`
`23:01.30`	`mercestes`	`Everyone's doing it. You should try it. :D`
`23:02.36`	`jaxxan`	`so i just edit that, recompile and voila my problems are fixed yeah`
`23:02.38`	`bigred`	`is there a decent text to speech extension for asterisk?`
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`23:05.11`	`dj-fu`	`festival?`
`23:05.21`	`mercestes`	`cepestral?`
`23:06.45`	`Corydon-w`	`Cepstral`
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`23:22.53`	`Daejeo1`	`hello guys`
`23:23.45`	`Daejeo1`	`I am running asterisk 1.2.10, is it possible to connect with g-talk?`
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`23:26.56`	`type0`	`anyone seen anything you can connect some FSX modules to a 1/2U sun server`
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`23:27.43`	`Qwell[]`	`half U?`
`23:28.00`	`type0`	`haha nah`
`23:28.02`	`type0`	`1 or 2`
`23:28.03`	`type0`	`sorry`
`23:28.06`	`Qwell[]`	`is it sparc or x86?`
`23:28.13`	`type0`	`x86`
`23:28.20`	`Qwell[]`	`then sure, any PCI card would work`
`23:28.25`	`Qwell[]`	`as long as it's low profile`
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`23:29.40`	`notoriousrab`	`anyone know about auto-attendant config?`
`23:33.03`	`Daejeo1`	`I am running asterisk 1.2.10, is it possible to connect with g-talk?`
`23:33.10`	`Qwell[]`	`no`
`23:33.12`	`Daejeo1`	`any cooment?`
`23:33.40`	`Daejeo1`	`1.4?`
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`23:37.42`	`lesouvage`	`Is there a way to add midnight commander (mc) to an AsteriskNow system?`
`23:38.08`	`k-man_`	`do i have to install some app to give the 1khz timing interrupts for voice prompts?`
`23:38.24`	`k-man_`	`lesouvage, why on earth would you want to do that?`
`23:39.21`	`lesouvage`	`I want to add www.asteriskguru/tutorialscallback.html to the system and with the user interface I can't do that so I have to change the config files sing an editor.`
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`23:39.35`	`lesouvage`	`sing = using`
`23:39.57`	`k-man_`	`oh`
`23:40.03`	`lesouvage`	`I'm not a vi guy`
`23:40.11`	`k-man_`	`can you not ssh in and do it? (i know nothing about asterisknow)`
`23:40.17`	`k-man_`	`use emacs or pico -w then`
`23:40.23`	`k-man_`	`sorryu`
`23:40.25`	`k-man_`	`i mean nano`
`23:40.29`	`k-man_`	`nano -w`
`23:40.59`	`shido6`	`Zzzz`
`23:41.07`	`lesouvage`	`I tried to add mc (a handy toolset for moving, changing, adding and editing files and check their ownership and modus) using the the conary package manager, (conary emerge mc). This gives an error message because all depencies couldn't be resolved.`
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`23:41.31`	`k-man_`	`lesouvage, sorry, no idea about that`
`23:41.35`	`shido6`	`use nano`
`23:41.50`	`k-man_`	`lesouvage, imho, mc is a crutch, you should consider learning the few commands you need to replace mc`
`23:41.50`	`shido6`	`or find the dependencies and install them one at a time :)`
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`23:42.10`	`k-man_`	`cp, mv, nano, less.... mkdir rmdir`
`23:42.17`	`k-man_`	`thats probably all you need`
`23:42.49`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`use vi`
`23:43.12`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`never too late to learn`
`23:43.37`	`lesouvage`	`I will try nano, I've have never used it before but I will try it.`
`23:43.41`	`k-man_`	`tzafrir_laptop, vi is probably a little too ters imho`
`23:43.53`	`k-man_`	`lesouvage, nano is quite simple imho, and it has on screen help`
`23:44.02`	`k-man_`	`nano -w means don't wrap lines`
`23:44.10`	`k-man_`	`that could be important when editing config files`
`23:44.16`	`k-man_`	`less is more only better - give it a go`
`23:44.21`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`k-man_, that depends which vi. vim is ok. Maybe viper is also good`
`23:44.51`	`lesouvage`	`I seriously tried vi a couple of years ago but it drove me crazy. I will now start to learn nano. Thanks!`
`23:45.13`	`k-man_`	`lesouvage, yw`
`23:45.19`	`perd`	`vi puts hair on your balls`
`23:45.22`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`less has several handy shortcuts: /, v, :-P`
`23:46.10`	`k-man_`	`yeah`
`23:46.19`	`k-man_`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`23:46.36`	`k-man_`	`when searching, n and N for find next`
`23:46.40`	`k-man_`	`i like less`
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`23:46.51`	`k-man_`	`in fact, if i find a system that doesn'thave less on it, i feel quite lost`
`23:46.54`	`k-man_`	`more is so basic`
`23:49.54`	`type0`	`im not finding anything for low profile pci fxs cards`
`23:52.20`	`lesouvage`	`I just tried nano. I can live with that ;-)`
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`23:53.33`	`jaxxan`	`I have a problem with voicemail. If you press 1 to hear a new message and then press 8 to forward the message to another mailbox, then decide you dont want to forward the message or forgot the mailbox number you want to forward, you can't back out to the main menu unless you hang up and call again.`
`23:53.39`	`lokkju_wrk`	`quick question: what potential methods are there for integrating asterisk with an existing Panasonic 624 PBX system?`
`23:53.44`	`jaxxan`	`this is with 1.2.12.1`
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`23:54.21`	`jaxxan`	`i can't get 1.2.15 to compile for me at this time, so i can't tell if it's been fixed. Can anyone running 1.2.15 test this voicemail function for me please ?`
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`23:59.24`	`infinity1`	`are there experimental debian/ubuntu packages for asterisk 1.4 somewhere?`
`23:59.33`	`infinity1`	`or any packages for that matter?`

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