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`00:00.18`	`FuriousGeorge`	`there should be a site... voip-provider-review.org`
`00:00.27`	`FuriousGeorge`	`thanks wunderkin`
`00:01.05`	`FuriousGeorge`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=LiveVoip`
`00:01.14`	`FuriousGeorge`	`jerk ;)`
`00:01.39`	`wunderkin`	`hahaha`
`00:02.11`	`wunderkin`	`they were on telesthetic too huh`
`00:03.42`	`*** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@22.194.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk)`
`00:03.43`	`FuriousGeorge`	`the issue is that the two major providers around here offer voip, and admit to prioritizing their sip traffic, but you have to use their modem/ata with it`
`00:04.20`	`FuriousGeorge`	`im not saying they deprioritize my voip traffic though, since i heard right from their tech that their users get the same issues as me`
`00:05.24`	`ManxPower`	`All ITSPs (VoIP providers) suck! Teliax seems to suck less than most.`
`00:05.58`	`aptura`	`ManxPower such as far as reaching that 100% reliability milestone right?`
`00:08.06`	`*** join/#asterisk Trifixion (n=trifix@12.149.150.213)`
`00:08.11`	`Trifixion`	`Hey all`
`00:08.33`	`Trifixion`	`anyone have a recommendation for a web-based tool to monitor my 7 asterisk servers?`
`00:08.36`	`*** join/#asterisk LakeSolon (n=blake@64-83-205-22.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com)`
`00:09.28`	`JT`	`nagios?`
`00:09.36`	`JT`	`depends on what sort of monitoring`
`00:09.50`	`Trifixion`	`yeah i know. i use the servers to route calls to a call center. so it's not really a pbx.`
`00:09.56`	`Trifixion`	`i just want to know what's going on on them - it's all SIP based.`
`00:10.05`	`Trifixion`	`you know, how many calls, what context they're in, etc.`
`00:10.43`	`*** join/#asterisk LanceSnyder (n=LanceSny@adsl-225-89-245.mia.bellsouth.net)`
`00:12.02`	`LanceSnyder`	`anyone here ever use/play with dundi`
`00:12.17`	`Trifixion`	`what's dundi?`
`00:12.29`	`wunderkin`	`crocodile dundi?`
`00:12.40`	`LanceSnyder`	`DUNDi`
`00:12.51`	`creature_`	`Trifixion: a peer to peer system for locating Internet gateways`
`00:13.04`	`creature_`	`to telepohny services`
`00:13.17`	`LanceSnyder`	`and a guy that had sex with crocodiles`
`00:13.22`	`creature_`	`=D`
`00:13.32`	`creature_`	`Depends on who you ask i guess :)`
`00:13.36`	`LanceSnyder`	`haha`
`00:14.06`	`Trifixion`	`i cant believe no one on here uses a webapp to monitor asterisk.`
`00:14.11`	`Trifixion`	`so everyone just logs in and runs asterisk -R?`
`00:14.15`	`LanceSnyder`	`no`
`00:14.19`	`fastfeet`	`Could someone give me advice as to why, when I call from one SIP extension (0301) to another SIP extension (0302), I get no ring at extension 0302, but instead I get hundup on. The same happens calling from other extension to the first`
`00:14.37`	`LanceSnyder`	`i use an application I wrote to monitor certain things`
`00:14.37`	`fastfeet`	`Here is my Code: http://74.106.174.161/problem/`
`00:14.40`	`LanceSnyder`	`ie. IAX2`
`00:14.57`	`LanceSnyder`	`users dialing DID's`
`00:15.06`	`LanceSnyder`	`and some other things`
`00:15.45`	`Trifixion`	`i'd rather not have to code it myself.`
`00:15.53`	`wunderkin`	`flash operator panel`
`00:15.56`	`Trifixion`	`seems like something that should exist out there in the world.`
`00:16.00`	`Trifixion`	`you like fop, wunderkin?`
`00:16.01`	`wunderkin`	`there are several others`
`00:16.05`	`Trifixion`	`i've found it kind of crummy.`
`00:16.06`	`wunderkin`	`never used them`
`00:16.17`	`*** join/#asterisk blitzrage (n=blitzrag@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage)`
`00:16.22`	`LanceSnyder`	`i dont use FOP`
`00:16.28`	`blitzrage`	`LanceSnyder: what do you want to know about DUNDi?`
`00:16.46`	`creature_`	`I have a macro with a switch based on dialstatus. for every case i want a hangup to be done .. i really don't need to add hangup to every case right? i think i should be able to just add a hangup right after the switch.. tried it but that doesn't work. anyone got a better idea?`
`00:16.47`	`JT`	`blitzrage: did you get summoned or something? :P`
`00:16.50`	`LanceSnyder`	`i want to know really what it's used for`
`00:16.53`	`blitzrage`	`JT: I'm psychic :)`
`00:16.58`	`JT`	`sure`
`00:17.01`	`Vec`	`Where does asterisk look for libraries like libpri (what directories) ?`
`00:17.04`	`blitzrage`	`LanceSnyder: to pass information across Asterisk boxes`
`00:17.06`	`LanceSnyder`	`how would you use it in an enterprise enviroment`
`00:17.21`	`LanceSnyder`	`seems alot of people have different things to say about it`
`00:17.33`	`blitzrage`	`LanceSnyder: you can use it to dynamically find peers registered to remote boxes so you can route calls to the box where the peer is registered (for example)`
`00:17.33`	`LanceSnyder`	`so i get mixed feelings`
`00:17.45`	`blitzrage`	`DUNDi is amazing -- people who don't like it don't understand it`
`00:17.54`	`CrashHD`	`I agree with blitz!`
`00:17.57`	`fastfeet`	`Could someone give me advice as to why, when I call from one SIP extension (0301) to another SIP extension (0302), I get no ring at extension 0302, but instead I get hungup on. The same happens when calling from 0302 to 0301....Here is the user.conf, sip.conf, and extensions.conf: http://74.106.174.161/problem/`
`00:17.57`	`CrashHD`	`dundi is wonderful`
`00:18.31`	`LanceSnyder`	`show dialplan EXTENSION@context`
`00:18.38`	`creature_`	`fastfeet: the problem is in your extensions.conf`
`00:18.40`	`blitzrage`	`you can even use dialplan variables and functions in the mapping, which allows you to pass back dynamic information`
`00:19.16`	`blitzrage`	`basically, DUNDi is a peer-to-peer method of passing information between Asterisk boxes`
`00:19.16`	`LanceSnyder`	`im at a bootcamp for asterisk in mia mi right now, and currently the dCAP doesn't even touch dundi`
`00:19.26`	`fastfeet`	`What am I doing wrong in extensions.conf?`
`00:19.29`	`blitzrage`	`LanceSnyder: I was supposed to be teaching part of that class`
`00:19.35`	`blitzrage`	`the DUNDi module specifically`
`00:19.36`	`LanceSnyder`	`leif?`
`00:19.41`	`blitzrage`	`I am! :)`
`00:19.44`	`wunderkin`	`life!`
`00:19.44`	`LanceSnyder`	`lol no shit`
`00:19.49`	`blitzrage`	`indeed :)`
`00:19.54`	`LanceSnyder`	`john said you had some problems coming to USA`
`00:20.01`	`creature_`	`fastfeet: you have to add something like this to your extensions.conf.. exten => 0301,1,Dial(type/identifier, timeout,);`
`00:20.10`	`creature_`	`and the same for 0302`
`00:20.17`	`fastfeet`	`Awsome!!`
`00:20.17`	`LanceSnyder`	`blitzrage, sucks you're not here, would have liked to meet you`
`00:20.19`	`fastfeet`	`Thanks!`
`00:20.34`	`blitzrage`	`LanceSnyder: yah dude... stupid USA. Believe me... on the dCAP, you don't want to make it any harder than it is :)`
`00:20.50`	`creature_`	`fastfeet: Dial(SIP/user1,20); should work for you`
`00:21.28`	`fastfeet`	`I need that semi colon too I guess,,,,???`
`00:21.28`	`creature_`	`fastfeet: oh i missed that you already have such extension..`
`00:21.36`	`creature_`	`you need that semi colon, yes`
`00:21.44`	`fastfeet`	`maybe thats the issue?`
`00:21.50`	`creature_`	`yes most probably`
`00:21.51`	`wunderkin`	`no you dont`
`00:21.56`	`creature_`	`you dont?!`
`00:21.57`	`ManxPower`	`never ever put extra spaces on a exten line`
`00:22.01`	`fastfeet`	`k I shall try...`
`00:24.35`	`*** join/#asterisk \|dennis\| (n=dennis@200.32.233.82)`
`00:26.06`	`*** join/#asterisk Iamnacho (i=Iamnacho@ip68-103-153-140.ks.ok.cox.net)`
`00:26.11`	`benno2`	`has anyone of you experienced low quality calls using voip provides when calling cell phones ?`
`00:26.11`	`*** join/#asterisk LanceMSnyder (n=LanceSny@adsl-225-89-245.mia.bellsouth.net)`
`00:26.39`	`blitzrage`	`that's not an asterisk issue`
`00:26.57`	`Bobthehunter`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:27.11`	`benno2`	`I have this problem often ... I have not found a voip provider yet which gives you good call quality everywhere`
`00:27.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`meaning why would it put port=0 on there`
`00:27.35`	`Bobthehunter`	`when the Addr->ip is ok with 5060 as port`
`00:27.40`	`benno2`	`probably the quality loss is due to channel A/D/A conversion`
`00:27.47`	`*** part/#asterisk techie (n=techie@c-67-181-184-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)`
`00:28.14`	`JT`	`benno2: mobile phones use highly compressed codecs, this is normal`
`00:28.43`	`*** join/#asterisk elg (n=fugalh@dhcp08.cs.nmsu.edu)`
`00:28.54`	`blitzrage`	`i.e. gsm`
`00:29.05`	`benno2`	`JT: yes gsm but if I call a foreign gsm phone from my normal landline it always sounds well ... but it costs an arm and aleg`
`00:29.10`	`elg`	`twinkle 1.0, asterisk 1.4, no dtmf. any ideas? I can't find any dtmf settings in the twinkle menus`
`00:29.16`	`Bobthehunter`	`it seem.. it would use a default of 5060 .. why 0 .. ..`
`00:29.28`	`Bobthehunter`	`manxpower ehver see this ?`
`00:29.34`	`JT`	`benno2: what codec do you use to your voip provider?`
`00:29.36`	`ManxPower`	`elg: you need to find the dtmf settings in the SIP client`
`00:29.49`	`ManxPower`	`Bobthehunter: I know nothing about realtime.`
`00:29.53`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmm`
`00:29.58`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok anyone could know ?`
`00:30.13`	`elg`	`oh i found it`
`00:30.15`	`elg`	`rfc 2833?`
`00:30.20`	`ManxPower`	`I won't be using realtime anytime soon. Too much work for too little payoff.`
`00:30.33`	`ManxPower`	`elg: you would normally want to try rfc2833 dtmfmode first`
`00:30.46`	`fastfeet`	`Hey Creature_ : You rock brother!! Thanks!!`
`00:30.54`	`ManxPower`	`set it on the client and on asterisk`
`00:30.56`	`coppice`	`RFC2833 is so last year. RFC4733 is this year's spring fashion :-)`
`00:31.03`	`Bobthehunter`	`ok ill mod source then`
`00:31.04`	`creature_`	`fastfeet: np, glad you got it working`
`00:31.10`	`elg`	`coppice: heh`
`00:31.12`	`Bobthehunter`	`sometimes it there.. sometimes its not`
`00:31.14`	`benno2`	`JT: I always use G711 when doing SIP calls. and usually calling landlines from sip providers work well. no quality issues`
`00:31.14`	`elg`	`ok I'll try that`
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`00:31.32`	`Bobthehunter`	`hmm a prune and sip show peer load fixed`
`00:31.33`	`Bobthehunter`	`weird`
`00:31.35`	`JT`	`benno2: unusual`
`00:31.47`	`JT`	`benno2: maybe your sip providers are stingey and use gsm gateways`
`00:32.50`	`benno2`	`JT could be. I was just wondering how normal SIP providers route their calls between countries, do you think via normal PSTN providers getting better conditions or using the internet ?`
`00:32.52`	`*** join/#asterisk NirS (n=Nir@bzq-114-69-37.static.bezeqint.net)`
`00:33.01`	`NirS`	`wwwwaaaassssuuuuuppppp?????`
`00:33.13`	`wunderkin`	`wuz...down..`
`00:33.34`	`NirS`	`good one`
`00:33.35`	`NirS`	`;-)`
`00:33.42`	`creature_`	`I would like some comments on this part of my extensions.ael: http://pastebin.ca/376418 does that look like a good way of basing the incoming calls on status?`
`00:33.46`	`Bobthehunter`	`depends.. we send TDM..`
`00:33.57`	`JT`	`benno2: i think the answer is obvious`
`00:33.59`	`elg`	`hmm. dtmfmode = rfc2833 and setting rfc 2833 in client didn't work`
`00:34.00`	`Bobthehunter`	`so you can buy channels and send all USA/CAN to TDM`
`00:34.09`	`JT`	`benno2: tdm is always better quality`
`00:34.14`	`Bobthehunter`	`well ou cant fail`
`00:34.18`	`Bobthehunter`	`Sagomas 108d's`
`00:34.22`	`Bobthehunter`	`are perfect..`
`00:34.23`	`masked`	`JT: i'm off to a telstra lunch/presentation in 20 mins`
`00:34.24`	`Bobthehunter`	`yet`
`00:34.34`	`JT`	`yeah except if your machine dies, bye bye 8 PRIs`
`00:34.44`	`JT`	`masked: ok`
`00:34.48`	`JT`	`masked: on what?`
`00:34.59`	`masked`	`no idea, next g probably`
`00:35.09`	`JT`	`take notes then`
`00:35.22`	`masked`	`really? with a pad and pen?`
`00:36.19`	`JT`	`or something :P`
`00:36.29`	`JT`	`relay useful points back to me...`
`00:36.44`	`masked`	`pda broke :(`
`00:36.45`	`CrashHD`	`do sip channels still report in use status to queues in 1.2?`
`00:37.13`	`masked`	`yeah, can do.`
`00:37.46`	`Bobthehunter`	`yes but you needhints for local channels`
`00:37.51`	`Bobthehunter`	`else they STICK to in use`
`00:38.50`	`*** join/#asterisk mog (i=ejabberd@c-71-207-215-93.hsd1.al.comcast.net)`
`00:38.50`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o mog] by ChanServ`
`00:39.13`	`Trifixion`	`anyone have a recommendation for a web-based tool to monitor my 7 asterisk servers?`
`00:45.23`	`Strom_M`	`nagios :)`
`00:53.22`	`*** join/#asterisk mmurdock (n=vircuser@mail.kimballequipment.com)`
`00:56.29`	`LostFrog`	`Awesome, you can transfer a call before you answer it.. :)`
`00:57.43`	`ManxPower`	`FINALLY some objective reporting! "Spontaneous human combustion: Skype to blame?" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/28/skype_flames_none_dead/`
`00:59.21`	`diclophis-work`	`does 1.4 have a Curl command?`
`00:59.43`	`ManxPower`	`diclophis-work: It should if the curl-devel stuff was installed at Asterisk build time.`
`00:59.53`	`diclophis-work`	`theres no app_curl.c though?`
`01:01.06`	`mog`	`func_curl`
`01:01.10`	`ManxPower`	`diclophis-work: In 1.4 I believe it was converted to a function.`
`01:01.39`	`creature_`	`diclophis-work: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+Curl`
`01:01.57`	`*** join/#asterisk dahunter3 (n=dahunter@pool-71-110-4-30.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`01:02.21`	`Damin`	`It's called func_curl now..`
`01:02.38`	`Damin`	`It's cool.. Set(CDR(accountcode)=${CURL(http://127.0.0.1/fetch_pcid.php?d=${EXTEN})});`
`01:03.17`	`Damin`	`Of course that won't work on standard asterisk.. you'll have to use EVAL to convert the ${EXTEN}`
`01:03.25`	`diclophis-work`	`ok cool`
`01:03.26`	`diclophis-work`	`thanks`
`01:03.37`	`Damin`	`SO something like d=EVAL(${EXTEN})`
`01:03.40`	`blitzrage`	`good ol' func_curl`
`01:03.54`	`blitzrage`	`func_odbc is cool too :)`
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`01:11.45`	`triple-e`	`anyone know anything about a company called specialtel http://www.specialtel.com/asterisk/index.html`
`01:12.05`	`LostFrog`	`I know that's not a very good company name. lol`
`01:12.29`	`triple-e`	`hehe -- yeah they don't answer the phone either`
`01:12.53`	`JT`	`too special to answer`
`01:13.25`	`diclophis-work`	`thanks all`
`01:13.34`	`triple-e`	`to special to support their product.`
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`01:13.51`	`Rick999`	`?`
`01:14.06`	`JT`	`Rick999: ?!`
`01:14.10`	`LostFrog`	`It reminds me of SpecialK and special ed.`
`01:14.24`	`triple-e`	`short bus special :)`
`01:14.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`anybody noticed a problem with the history not saved in asterisk 1.2.15?`
`01:15.08`	`LostFrog`	`They have to answer their phone. :) They say "We warranty all our systems, along with providing the best technical support!"`
`01:16.29`	`triple-e`	`having a dCAP cert doesn't make your business last, they probibly ran out of money -- happens to the best of us`
`01:16.31`	`Rick999`	`anyone went to the "call center" show in Miami last week?`
`01:16.53`	`Damin`	`LostFrog: Doesn't SNOM have something that supports that?`
`01:17.07`	`Damin`	`LostFrog: Didn't they spin off their IP PBX stuff to a different company?`
`01:17.31`	`LostFrog`	`I haven't explorered the 4S stuff much.. I'm afraid to ask the price..`
`01:17.34`	`Rick999`	`lots of asterisk vendors selling call monitoring. How dependable is asterisk with call monitoring?`
`01:17.49`	`LostFrog`	`The saying goes, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."`
`01:17.50`	`Rick999`	`monitoring & recording`
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`01:18.57`	`triple-e`	`Rick999 recording calls`
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`01:19.29`	`triple-e`	`Rick999 recording works great`
`01:21.25`	`Damin`	`LostFrog: http://www.pbxnsip.com`
`01:21.56`	`Damin`	`LostFrog: No direct experience with it, but it supports SIPS and SRTP out of the box. I've been told it is a decent solution, but I can't vouch for it.`
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`01:26.56`	`creature_`	`how "paranoid" should i be with adding hangup in my extension? is it a good choice to add hangups after like.. all rules where the call is routed to voicemail?`
`01:27.51`	`CrashHD`	`creature_: I do especially if autofallthrough = no`
`01:28.05`	`blitzrage`	`creature_: it works fine for me`
`01:28.18`	`CrashHD`	`you should have control of a call start to finish through your system`
`01:28.23`	`creature_`	`ok`
`01:28.30`	`blitzrage`	`however I know someone who swears it's not reliable`
`01:28.37`	`blitzrage`	`and I respect his opinion greatly`
`01:28.45`	`CrashHD`	`but blitzrage has long since pushed him off a cliff`
`01:28.48`	`blitzrage`	`but I disagree with him -- my experience says it's good to go`
`01:28.50`	`CrashHD`	`;)`
`01:28.53`	`creature_`	`=)`
`01:29.00`	`blitzrage`	`so test and determine if it really is, lol`
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`01:29.21`	`CrashHD`	`creature_: ya what blitz said...try it...then you decide`
`01:29.33`	`ManxPower`	`exten => h in combination with Dial option "g" seems to be reliable`
`01:29.51`	`*** join/#asterisk robby____ (n=robby@203.63.126.9)`
`01:30.15`	`ManxPower`	`no matter which side hangs up first, your script will run.`
`01:30.29`	`CrashHD`	`I agree with ManxPower...clean way of handling hangups`
`01:30.34`	`robby____`	`anyone know of any issues with SIP hints in 1.4 or 1.2.15`
`01:30.34`	`ManxPower`	`I use this method to log unusual PRI hangup causes so we can beat our telco over the head with them.`
`01:30.41`	`robby____`	`cant get hinting working properly in either`
`01:30.50`	`CrashHD`	`make sure you are hinting an actual number`
`01:30.54`	`CrashHD`	`and not ${EXTEN}`
`01:30.57`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: so exten h dialup f.ex?`
`01:31.02`	`creature_`	`hangup even :)`
`01:31.18`	`creature_`	`i was thinking about that, but it doesn't make sense.`
`01:31.18`	`ManxPower`	`There is never a reason to run Hangup in exten => h`
`01:31.24`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: thanks :)`
`01:31.25`	`CrashHD`	`robby____: so make sure hint is SIP/123 not SIP/${EXTEN}`
`01:31.40`	`robby____`	`i have got exten => 9000,hint,SIP/9000`
`01:31.49`	`robby____`	`it registers (ie, show hints shows it up)`
`01:31.58`	`CrashHD`	`robby____ any watchers?`
`01:32.02`	`robby____`	`no watchers`
`01:32.10`	`robby____`	`just doing show hints to check out what is happening`
`01:32.15`	`LostFrog`	`Damin: pbxnsip is what I'm looking at now.`
`01:32.18`	`robby____`	`initially everyone is unavailable`
`01:32.21`	`CrashHD`	`make sure your device is subscribing to the hint`
`01:32.35`	`robby____`	`only updating them from the console`
`01:32.43`	`CrashHD`	`and I think you need to call-limit for hints to work right.....but I could be wrong`
`01:32.44`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: oh, i had missed dial option G.. thank alot!`
`01:32.45`	`boch`	`Do you know why i have no audio when Bridge()ing two channels ?`
`01:32.46`	`robby____`	`i dont want to monitor it from any devices`
`01:32.52`	`CrashHD`	`try setting call-limit = 100 in your sip.conf for your device`
`01:33.00`	`ManxPower`	`it's a lower case "g"`
`01:33.04`	`robby____`	`yeah, ive got call-limit=1 in each sip declaration`
`01:33.11`	`CrashHD`	`hmm`
`01:33.21`	`robby____`	`also got notifyringing on`
`01:33.24`	`ManxPower`	`boch: set canreinvite=no in the sip.conf sections for those two devices.`
`01:33.39`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: yeah, got that`
`01:33.40`	`CrashHD`	`I'm having an issue with local channels in 1.4 but haven't tried sip`
`01:33.44`	`ManxPower`	`IIRC call limits break hints`
`01:33.51`	`CrashHD`	`might post a bug on bugs.digium.com`
`01:33.51`	`robby____`	`oh ok`
`01:34.01`	`robby____`	`becuase in 1.4 you have to set call limits, or hints dont work`
`01:34.07`	`ManxPower`	`robby____: try removing the calllimit stuff`
`01:34.09`	`CrashHD`	`call limits break hints?`
`01:34.12`	`ManxPower`	`robby____: why?`
`01:34.15`	`robby____`	`ill try that now manxpower`
`01:34.32`	`ManxPower`	`What breaks hints is having phones with call waiting enabled`
`01:34.33`	`CrashHD`	`ManxPower: I'm pretty sure what robby just said about call limits is documented on voip-info.org somewhere`
`01:34.46`	`CrashHD`	`call waiting is your friend!`
`01:34.47`	`CrashHD`	`haha`
`01:34.52`	`CrashHD`	`I'm out of here for the night fella's`
`01:34.53`	`CrashHD`	`ttyl`
`01:35.38`	`robby____`	`catchya`
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`01:36.05`	`robby____`	`hrm, removing call limit on the sip.conf didnt help`
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`01:36.15`	`robby____`	`has digium svn come back yet?`
`01:36.31`	`file`	`it went away?`
`01:36.35`	`robby____`	`i almost had this stuff working in 1.4 but apparently there is a patch on trunk that solves the last little problem`
`01:36.44`	`robby____`	`i wasnt able to access it yesterday, someone in here said it was out`
`01:36.46`	`ManxPower`	`robby____: correct.`
`01:36.47`	`boch`	`ManxPower, still not working with canreinvite=no, another idea ?`
`01:37.14`	`masked`	`JT: i got asked to leave.`
`01:37.17`	`robby____`	`svn export http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk ?`
`01:37.26`	`JT`	`masked: why?`
`01:37.29`	`file`	`robby____: svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk`
`01:37.33`	`ManxPower`	`boch: not without a copy of your sip.conf on pastebin.ca as well as a copy of the part of your extensions.conf that does the Dial()`
`01:37.43`	`masked`	`the reason they gave me was it was invite only.`
`01:37.54`	`JT`	`i see`
`01:38.01`	`masked`	`the reason i got a place was because my client has breakfast with sol`
`01:38.08`	`robby____`	`svn: REPORT request failed on '/svn/asterisk/!svn/vcc/default'`
`01:38.08`	`robby____`	`svn: REPORT of '/svn/asterisk/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.digium.com)`
`01:38.11`	`robby____`	`root@telephony:/usr/src#`
`01:38.14`	`JT`	`sure you weren't acting like a dickhead? ;)`
`01:38.21`	`file`	`are you behind an HTTP proxy?`
`01:38.30`	`masked`	`i wasn't saying a word to anyone.`
`01:38.36`	`masked`	`that could have been the problem`
`01:39.14`	`JT`	`hah`
`01:39.14`	`robby____`	`nope`
`01:39.14`	`JT`	`were you dressed for the ocassion?`
`01:39.14`	`masked`	`as well as some`
`01:39.14`	`masked`	`but not the majority`
`01:39.14`	`file`	`try svn co http://svn.digium.com:8080/svn/asterisk/trunk asterisk`
`01:39.32`	`ars247`	`Anyone know what the issue would be if someone calls in and i cant hear them but they can hear me?`
`01:39.54`	`masked`	`the only people i recognised there, don't like me.`
`01:40.17`	`masked`	`like the managing director of bendigo telco, i don't know if that had anything to do with it though.`
`01:40.38`	`ManxPower`	`ars247: nat`
`01:40.42`	`ars247`	`tried that`
`01:40.48`	`ars247`	`didnt work`
`01:41.02`	`masked`	`was fun while it lasted`
`01:41.10`	`ars247`	`weird thing is just random calls.. and if they call back it works`
`01:41.44`	`ars247`	`i thought it was nat too... but tried nat=yes and configure the sip_nat.conf still didnt solve the issue`
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`01:42.01`	`ars247`	`so back to square 1`
`01:42.02`	`ManxPower`	`sip_nat.conf? We don't do trixbox here.`
`01:42.14`	`ManxPower`	`ars247: Is the Asterisk server behind NAT?`
`01:42.24`	`ars247`	`yes`
`01:42.35`	`ManxPower`	`then you have a lot more work to do than just nat=yes`
`01:42.37`	`ars247`	`my sip devices are`
`01:42.56`	`JT`	`masked: i see`
`01:42.57`	`boch`	`ManxPower, http://pastebin.ca/376476`
`01:42.57`	`ManxPower`	`in fact nat=yes only works for NAT'd endpoints, not a NAT'd server.`
`01:43.13`	`masked`	`JT: the mayor was there though, and the council has been supporting me.`
`01:43.14`	`ars247`	`well my server isnt on nat`
`01:43.46`	`ManxPower`	`boch: can't help with AEL. Sorry.`
`01:43.46`	`ars247`	`this issue happened alot more since updated to 1.4 last week`
`01:44.26`	`boch`	`ManxPower, oops, why? should i try with extensions.conf ?`
`01:44.41`	`ars247`	`any ideas? ManxPower?`
`01:45.36`	`ManxPower`	`ars247: no.`
`01:45.47`	`ars247`	`=(`
`01:45.51`	`ManxPower`	`boch: What are you trying to accomplish?`
`01:46.15`	`ManxPower`	`boch: are you using 1.4?`
`01:46.24`	`masked`	`JT: speaking of which, time to apply for a grant :)`
`01:46.43`	`boch`	`im using 1.2.12.1, i think the Bridge() patch is made for this version`
`01:47.16`	`ManxPower`	`boch: I can't really help you with Bridge`
`01:47.30`	`ManxPower`	`I thought you were referring to a CLI message`
`01:47.35`	`boch`	`ManxPower, i making a hotline services, to rec your presentation and listen others ones, and then invite to chat, so i need to join answered channels`
`01:48.01`	`ars247`	`anyone have any idea or came across my issue please advise or any ideas would be great`
`01:48.27`	`boch`	`ManxPower, no problem, do you know someone could help me? someone using Bridge successfully maybe`
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`01:48.56`	`ManxPower`	`boch: I would use a meetme room for that sort of thing.`
`01:49.18`	`ManxPower`	`In fact, I've never even heard of someone using the Bridge() function.`
`01:49.40`	`boch`	`i evaluated that posibility, but i dont like having a room foreach private chat`
`01:49.44`	`blitzrage`	`I use app_bridge`
`01:49.51`	`russellb`	`i didn't know app_bridge existed`
`01:49.58`	`blitzrage`	`russellb: it's ready for testing :)`
`01:50.03`	`russellb`	`heh`
`01:50.17`	`boch`	`blitzrage, what's your * ver?`
`01:50.21`	`ManxPower`	`It is all blitzrage's fault`
`01:50.54`	`blitzrage`	`1.4`
`01:50.57`	`blitzrage`	`svn`
`01:51.22`	`boch`	`are you using this version? http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5841`
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`01:51.43`	`JT`	`masked: a grant for what?`
`01:52.17`	`robby____`	`file: port 8080 worked, cheers`
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`01:55.53`	`masked`	`JT: i'll show ya`
`01:56.20`	`LostFrog`	`ok.. in 4.1.0 hint still doesn't work with variables.`
`01:56.43`	`masked`	`JT: http://www.bendigo.vic.gov.au/Page/Page.asp?Page_Id=282&h=1&p=1`
`01:56.57`	`ManxPower`	`LostFrog: is it supposed to?`
`01:57.19`	`LostFrog`	`There's a comment on the wiki about it.`
`01:57.54`	`masked`	`JT: if your interested, take a look at the guiline notes, our association covers all of what's asked`
`01:58.25`	`LostFrog`	`We warranty all our systems, along with providing the best technical support!`
`01:58.28`	`LostFrog`	`Ooops.`
`01:58.30`	`LostFrog`	`sorry.`
`01:59.04`	`JT`	`masked: what association?`
`01:59.52`	`masked`	`JT: bewifi inc.`
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`02:01.36`	`boch`	`how can i choose which revision to download with svn?`
`02:01.39`	`JT`	`mmkay`
`02:01.50`	`JunK-Y`	`boch: -r`
`02:01.58`	`JT`	`masked: do you charge for people to use the network?`
`02:03.05`	`J4k3`	`heh, municipal wifi.`
`02:03.16`	`boch`	`thanks JunK-Y`
`02:04.59`	`masked`	`yes`
`02:05.01`	`J4k3`	`considering the average american city can't figure out scheduled garbage pickup`
`02:05.14`	`J4k3`	`I can't imagine trying to use any sort of internet offering they'd manage to crap out`
`02:05.16`	`JT`	`masked: why?`
`02:05.32`	`LostFrog`	`Pittsburgh has done a good job downtown.`
`02:05.54`	`J4k3`	`heh`
`02:05.59`	`LostFrog`	`I'm never down there.`
`02:06.01`	`J4k3`	`then you walk behind a tree.`
`02:06.17`	`J4k3`	`if anyone really needs mobile service, they have it`
`02:06.20`	`J4k3`	`theres no reason for this crap`
`02:06.28`	`J4k3`	`its just a spectrum grab, nothing more.`
`02:06.58`	`orlock`	`heh`
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`02:07.48`	`J4k3`	`$10/month gets you a reasonable amount of data service that actually works practically anywhere (compared to any muni wifi crap, or anything else operating at the ultra-awful-propigation 2.4 ghz band)`
`02:07.58`	`J4k3`	`from practically any cellular carrier`
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`02:08.30`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: you are not in the USA are you?`
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`02:09.03`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: Where exactly can you get cellular data service for $10/month?`
`02:09.11`	`ManxPower`	`Is that like a unicorn?`
`02:09.12`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: Verizon Wireless.`
`02:09.21`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: Uh, that is $59/month`
`02:09.27`	`ManxPower`	`I have verizon wireless`
`02:09.29`	`J4k3`	`only if you're an idiot.`
`02:09.36`	`J4k3`	`I pay $0, but I pay per minute`
`02:09.47`	`J4k3`	`1xRTT or 1xEVDO, and thats within the parameters of my contract.`
`02:09.49`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: Ah. So if you want too make some phone/modem hack.`
`02:10.20`	`J4k3`	`phone/modem hack? No less of a hack than any aircard.`
`02:10.51`	`J4k3`	`and less inconvienent. I can stick a cellphone on the dashboard (where the signal is) and bluetooth to my laptop.`
`02:10.52`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: So where on verizon's web site can I get this $10/month service?`
`02:10.55`	`masked`	`JT: to pay the internet bill`
`02:10.58`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: Vcast account.`
`02:11.00`	`LostFrog`	`I wonder if UltraMonkey would work with the servers distributed across the internet..`
`02:11.02`	`J4k3`	`its a 4GB data account.`
`02:11.06`	`ManxPower`	`On my PCMCIA card?`
`02:11.07`	`masked`	`JT: there is a membership fee, but everything else is 'free'`
`02:11.12`	`J4k3`	`your pcmcia card is your problem`
`02:11.16`	`ManxPower`	`good lord! I'd use up 10GB in like 2 days`
`02:11.20`	`J4k3`	`you got suckered into buying a proprietary device that locks you into an overpriced service`
`02:11.31`	`J4k3`	`for no improvement in actual service (unless its a Rev A card)`
`02:11.35`	`masked`	`it will be a mesh in the future, but the main drive behind it is fixed point`
`02:11.41`	`J4k3`	`heh mesh.`
`02:11.43`	`JT`	`masked: if you can't access the network for free, that sucks`
`02:11.44`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: No, I got suckered into a plug and play setup with coverage where I need it.`
`02:12.06`	`JT`	`masked: being a member of the association is one thing, access is another`
`02:12.20`	`ManxPower`	`"I'm sorry, I have to get off the phone so I can log into your server, I'll call you back with any questions. Rinse. Repeat"`
`02:12.23`	`masked`	`JT: who would sponsor us bandiwidth though?`
`02:12.26`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: bluetooth works quite nicely for me. Its all a hack, the difference is you got a cutey-pie windows app to deal with it.`
`02:12.38`	`JT`	`masked: bandwidth for what?`
`02:12.38`	`masked`	`JT: what do you mean?`
`02:12.42`	`masked`	`internet`
`02:12.46`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: I'm too old for hacks like that`
`02:12.47`	`JT`	`masked: meh, Internet`
`02:12.49`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: well, in that case I'd just carry a second phone... leave it in my laptop bag.`
`02:12.54`	`ocgltd`	`Can anyone tell me what this means: chan_sip.c:2739 auto_congest:`
`02:12.54`	`ocgltd`	`Auto-congesting SIP/voicemaster.allvoice.net-08795bc0`
`02:13.09`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: The PCMICA card is the last cellular contract I will ever sign.`
`02:13.13`	`JT`	`masked: why do people need free Internet?`
`02:13.14`	`masked`	`JT: ok lets say it's free, i buy the internet, and share it at no gain to myself`
`02:13.15`	`J4k3`	`personally I haven't found it a significant limitation.`
`02:13.23`	`ManxPower`	`ocgltd: it means the remote side is not responding`
`02:13.41`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: prepaid?`
`02:13.50`	`masked`	`JT: it's just an ideal, i guess.`
`02:14.07`	`JT`	`the network does not have to be Internet based`
`02:14.21`	`masked`	`it certainly isn't i would just like to have that as an option`
`02:14.35`	`masked`	`i would like membership fees in order for the network to grow`
`02:14.39`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: for voice, yes.`
`02:14.49`	`ocgltd`	`When I "SIP SHOW CHANNELS" the first few show a g729 codec, but the rest show unknown (16.22.116.29 2897516#16 02d7dff4655 00102/00000 unkn No Init: INVITE). What does this indicate?`
`02:14.55`	`masked`	`JT: take a look at www.bendigostreetcars.com`
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`02:15.01`	`JT`	`masked: every other community project that has mandated access fees has died`
`02:15.04`	`ManxPower`	`it is not a good deal, but neither is being forced into another 2yr contract every time you want to change something on your service.`
`02:15.10`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: maybe one day they'll be a prepaid deal with decent coverage and no ripoff... so far I haven't found on.`
`02:15.11`	`JT`	`masked: i always warn them`
`02:15.11`	`J4k3`	`er one.`
`02:15.14`	`JT`	`masked: they always ignore me`
`02:15.17`	`JT`	`masked: they always die`
`02:15.22`	`J4k3`	`Cingular's prepaid crap is the worst I've seen. $1/day hit for just having the phone turned on :P`
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`02:15.28`	`masked`	`JT: ten months old, 200 members, no fees, but some are already on the network`
`02:15.40`	`masked`	`JT: ok, what do you suggest then?`
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`02:15.42`	`J4k3`	`although.... doesn't Verizon/tracphone offer free m2m now?`
`02:15.43`	`JT`	`no fees is good, except for assoc membership, that's ok`
`02:15.51`	`[hC]`	`Any of you dudes using CDR_ODBC? Im looking at having all my client installs dump their CDRs to me, just wondering if they lose connectivity, then regain connectivity, will it play catch-up, or will i lose those CDRs?`
`02:15.52`	`JT`	`masked: people pay for bits of hardware they setup`
`02:15.55`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: Both Cingular and Verizon have TWO kinds of prepaid. Only one of the two for each carrier is $1/day`
`02:15.58`	`J4k3`	`free m2m = free asterisk extension :)`
`02:16.06`	`J4k3`	`ahhh`
`02:16.29`	`masked`	`JT: yes, agreed on both accounts. never planned to charge for anything, just membership.`
`02:16.45`	`JT`	`ok, and make it reasonable`
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`02:16.50`	`JT`	`like $25/yr max`
`02:16.51`	`masked`	`i don't really want everything to belong to the assoc anyway, incase it does fail.`
`02:16.58`	`JT`	`gives you a vote`
`02:18.43`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: For Verizon there is the $1/day + 10/cents/min or for $50 you get 300 mins.`
`02:19.11`	`orlock`	`ngargh`
`02:19.24`	`J4k3`	`wow, for $70/mo I get two handsets, 1400 minutes, and "unlimited data" for the way I use it.`
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`02:20.02`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: and a rope around your balls for 2 years.`
`02:20.27`	`J4k3`	`and yes, I had to adjust the teathered username, but verizon doesn't lock you out of the phone so theres really no way for them to say adjustment is a no-no`
`02:20.37`	`ManxPower`	`No thanks. It took me 6 weeks to get out of the cancelation fee of $525 of cancelation fees last time I was under contract.`
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`02:20.54`	`bigred`	`Can I have an AGI script return a value and store that somewhere in my dialplan?`
`02:20.59`	`J4k3`	`well... theres a geographical rope around my balls here`
`02:21.02`	`J4k3`	`its Verizon or... nobody`
`02:21.06`	`masked`	`J4k3: for what i want here in .au, it's $2518.40 a year.`
`02:21.15`	`ManxPower`	`bigred: have your AGI set a dialplan variable`
`02:21.21`	`masked`	`that get's me 3gb/mo`
`02:21.29`	`JT`	`masked: what else?`
`02:21.37`	`bigred`	`ManxPower: duh. that makes more sense. thanks`
`02:21.42`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: verizon is the only carrier where I live too`
`02:21.51`	`masked`	`JT: does the $$ get me?`
`02:21.55`	`ManxPower`	`fortunatly when I'm not on the road I don't use my cell phone much`
`02:22.06`	`JT`	`masked: 3GB, what else?`
`02:22.10`	`JT`	`masked: or is that it?`
`02:22.24`	`J4k3`	`Cingular has towers here, but between their lousy tower placement and GSM's crappyness its worthless.`
`02:22.29`	`masked`	`that's it really.. 1.5Mbit`
`02:22.40`	`masked`	`12 month contract`
`02:22.46`	`JT`	`voice?`
`02:22.49`	`JT`	`what network?`
`02:22.56`	`J4k3`	`I'm technically line of sight to Cingular's tower, but there are a few trees, and everybody's GSM handset out here says "no"`
`02:23.03`	`masked`	`next g`
`02:23.05`	`J4k3`	`and I'm only like 7 miles away`
`02:23.09`	`masked`	`http://my.bigpond.com/internetplans/broadband/wireless/mobile_plans/default.jsp`
`02:23.09`	`JT`	`ah`
`02:23.21`	`JT`	`masked: oh ok, through bigpond`
`02:23.26`	`JT`	`never looked at that since next g`
`02:23.37`	`J4k3`	`yeah... since I bought some voip phones I never talk on my cell at home anymore`
`02:23.48`	`masked`	`$399 3g pcmcia card`
`02:23.50`	`J4k3`	`I get a great (-75 dBm) signal here at the house, but dammit, g711a sounds better`
`02:23.53`	`masked`	`that's on top`
`02:24.02`	`JT`	`masked: err so is it 3G or next G?`
`02:24.12`	`J4k3`	`its G-whis.`
`02:24.15`	`J4k3`	`er G-whiz`
`02:24.42`	`J4k3`	`"BUT MY CARD IS ELEVEN G!"`
`02:24.45`	`masked`	`next g, 3g and gsm`
`02:24.47`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: perhaps you misunderstood. Other than satellite internet, verizon is the only internet carrier other than dialup.`
`02:25.19`	`JT`	`masked: all in the one card, are you sure?`
`02:25.29`	`masked`	`that's what the blurb says.`
`02:25.50`	`masked`	`'selected 3g and gsm networks'`
`02:25.50`	`masked`	`so`
`02:26.01`	`J4k3`	`ManxPower: ick... 1xRTT or EVDO?`
`02:26.08`	`masked`	`any in the nextg freq range`
`02:26.15`	`J4k3`	`if you're getting evdo, you're lucky.`
`02:26.15`	`masked`	`i guess`
`02:26.21`	`JT`	`masked: next G is not 3g or gsm`
`02:26.30`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: 1xrtt, but evdo service has started appearing in nearby cities`
`02:26.30`	`JT`	`as far as i can tell`
`02:26.32`	`J4k3`	`we're in the "no planned expansion" range for evdo`
`02:26.47`	`J4k3`	`yeah, if you're served by a crappy telco`
`02:26.50`	`J4k3`	`don't expect evdo`
`02:26.51`	`masked`	`JT: my understanding is it's 3g @ ~850MHz`
`02:27.02`	`JT`	`it's 850MHz`
`02:27.04`	`masked`	`because it was cheaper to cover further areas`
`02:27.07`	`JT`	`think it's 4G though`
`02:27.10`	`J4k3`	`I've noticed the only places Verizon is deploying evdo to their towers is where they can get lots of T1s or a T3 for cheap`
`02:27.15`	`JT`	`cheaper... works better`
`02:27.15`	`J4k3`	`ie - SBC/ATT turf`
`02:27.21`	`masked`	`yeah`
`02:27.35`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: if we get EVDO I'm moving over to EVDO and use satellite as backup service`
`02:27.37`	`J4k3`	`out here in Taco Bell land, they're serving the whole tower off a single T1`
`02:27.44`	`masked`	`I am unsure of what generation they consider it.`
`02:27.50`	`creature_`	`is there a built in function in asterisk for forward to a extension?`
`02:27.53`	`JT`	`masked: it's 3GSM`
`02:27.56`	`JT`	`i think`
`02:28.03`	`J4k3`	`yeah. Satellite's latency is AWFUL`
`02:28.05`	`ManxPower`	`creature_: only on zap ports.`
`02:28.14`	`J4k3`	`rev A is about 1/10th the latency`
`02:28.15`	`masked`	`JT: '4G will be a fully IP-based ....'`
`02:28.18`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: I do all my SSH over 1xRTT when I'm home.`
`02:28.34`	`J4k3`	`yeah, 1xRTT is what, 1/3rd the latency?`
`02:28.42`	`ManxPower`	`Obviously I'm not home right now.`
`02:28.47`	`masked`	`'defines G as a network that operates on Internet technology, combines it with other applications and technologies such as Wi-Fi and WiMAX, and runs at speeds ranging from 100 Mbps (in cell-phone networks) to 1 Gbps (in local Wi-Fi networks).'`
`02:28.47`	`ManxPower`	`J4k3: at least`
`02:28.56`	`masked`	`err 4G*`
`02:29.12`	`J4k3`	`1gbit/sec out of wifi?`
`02:29.15`	`J4k3`	`is somebody on the crack?`
`02:29.18`	`masked`	`lol`
`02:29.19`	`tzanger`	`J4k3: :-)`
`02:29.24`	`masked`	`wikipedia :\|`
`02:29.34`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: ok, but creating a forward is as easy as creating a new extension .. then when in call i just enter the numbers?`
`02:29.38`	`J4k3`	`ubiquti better get them some of THOSE wifi cards, quick!`
`02:29.39`	`J4k3`	`;)`
`02:29.50`	`masked`	`lol`
`02:29.52`	`ManxPower`	`creature_: in SIP forwarding is handled inside the device itself`
`02:29.53`	`JT`	`i think 4G is more a shopping list than a standard`
`02:30.03`	`masked`	`yeah as you read on it says such`
`02:30.37`	`creature_`	`ManxPower: ok`
`02:30.38`	`LostFrog`	`I have 2 PBX server at different data sites obviously on different subnets, Is there any way to make a reasonable failover config?`
`02:30.41`	`masked`	`well`
`02:30.49`	`masked`	`i best continue this application.`
`02:30.54`	`masked`	`brb, need more paper.`
`02:30.58`	`JT`	`masked: have you got a Next G handset?`
`02:31.46`	`J4k3`	`hehe, I finally got the f1000g so happy that my only real complaint I have about it is it takes about 15 taps on 'end' to hang it up ;)`
`02:32.12`	`fastfeet`	`Buy a Grandstream Bugetone or not?`
`02:32.26`	`ManxPower`	`fastfeet: NEVER EVER!`
`02:32.39`	`fastfeet`	`lol`
`02:32.48`	`fastfeet`	`Mind if I ask why??`
`02:33.04`	`JT`	`"budget"`
`02:33.09`	`fastfeet`	`ty`
`02:33.15`	`fastfeet`	`finger slipped`
`02:33.21`	`JT`	`performance is very budget`
`02:33.29`	`ManxPower`	`fastfeet: their hardware has gotten better, but I don't think the have released a good firmware in the entire history of the universe.`
`02:33.37`	`JT`	`my point was that something with budget in the name probably isn't very good`
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`02:34.40`	`fastfeet`	`true`
`02:34.40`	`J4k3`	`I got budgetone 101's for my office`
`02:34.40`	`J4k3`	`as the VoIP training wheels`
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`02:34.40`	`fastfeet`	`yeah I was looking at the 101's`
`02:35.02`	`[hC]`	`damn you astlinux, why do you not have cdr database support.`
`02:35.12`	`ManxPower`	`the BT101s don't even support Caller*ID NAME.`
`02:35.18`	`ManxPower`	`Their display only supports numbers!`
`02:35.55`	`fastfeet`	`What would be a better choice then? Any recommendations...`
`02:36.03`	`[hC]`	`Polycom IP430 or IP501`
`02:36.10`	`J4k3`	`they sound no worse than our pots lines, but our pots lines are absolutely worthless`
`02:36.10`	`J4k3`	`hehe`
`02:36.17`	`ManxPower`	`Linksys is supposed to make OK entry level phones, but I like Polycom.`
`02:36.23`	`[hC]`	`Linksys`
`02:36.29`	`[hC]`	`Linksys's SPA921 is okay too`
`02:36.29`	`J4k3`	`the 101's are half the price of a halfway decent phone, and priced accordingly.`
`02:36.33`	`J4k3`	`but the phone does work`
`02:36.42`	`J4k3`	`and in my experience its fairly stable once configured correctly`
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`02:38.00`	`fastfeet`	`J4k3: I noticed you said " halfway decent phone", so I guess what your sayings is the BT101 is pretty good for it's price..`
`02:38.46`	`J4k3`	`fastfeet: yes, I think you get what you pay for compared to other phones, but realize its a "cheap phone" and will perform accordingly`
`02:38.52`	`J4k3`	`the sound quality isn't that hot, even on g711`
`02:39.06`	`J4k3`	`if you plan to use it a lot, buy a better phone`
`02:39.17`	`J4k3`	`if you're buying something for initial testing, its good for that`
`02:39.17`	`fastfeet`	`Yes, good point...`
`02:39.47`	`J4k3`	`I'd have no problem using them for occasional-use extensions`
`02:40.45`	`fastfeet`	`I'll look at these Polycom's which were recommended...... The Linksys SPA921 is decent too ?`
`02:41.37`	`[hC]`	`Yep`
`02:41.46`	`[hC]`	`Better than grandstream by FAR.`
`02:41.59`	`J4k3`	`well... is there anything worse than grandstream?`
`02:42.45`	`fastfeet`	`Aparently not....`
`02:42.51`	`fastfeet`	`:)`
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`02:44.42`	`fastfeet`	`New question: Are these Polycom's and the Linksys SPA921 fairly easy to setup?`
`02:46.08`	`J4k3`	`all sip phones are about equally hard to set up (not at all)`
`02:46.43`	`denon`	`that's not entirely true :)`
`02:46.45`	`fastfeet`	`The SPA922 has two ethernet ports, but one line support.`
`02:47.00`	`fastfeet`	`Why two ethernet ports??`
`02:47.08`	`orlock`	`bridging`
`02:47.11`	`denon`	`for your workstation to plug into`
`02:47.11`	`fastfeet`	`ahh`
`02:47.14`	`denon`	`one jack per office`
`02:47.24`	`fastfeet`	`<-- slaps head...`
`02:47.29`	`denon`	`not sure about the SPAs, but many phones will do vlan and QoS as well`
`02:47.35`	`denon`	`so your workstation doesnt saturate the pipe`
`02:47.46`	`denon`	`trivial on most modern lans, though`
`02:48.25`	`fastfeet`	`yeah, the extra $30 doesn't seem worth it`
`02:49.55`	`fastfeet`	`Thanks for the information... I'll need to do some more research on these Polycoms... I do know alot of people recommend them.`
`02:49.58`	`fastfeet`	`Thanks again..`
`02:52.12`	`denon`	`heh`
`02:52.24`	`denon`	`the extra 30 or whatever is certainly worth it in a corporate environment`
`02:53.02`	`JT`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:53.13`	`JT`	`i bet laying cables cost more than $30`
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`02:54.11`	`denon`	`yeah .. well, that, and if you consider that you jack each user into a pretty spendy cisco catalyst gig-e port ..`
`02:54.39`	`JT`	`do sip phones even do gig e?`
`02:54.41`	`denon`	`but yeah, mostly a convenience thing .. nice not to have too many drops to each desk`
`02:54.52`	`denon`	`I believe a couple models now pass it through ..`
`02:55.04`	`denon`	`but no, they could get by easily on appletalk`
`02:55.05`	`denon`	`heh`
`02:55.08`	`orlock`	`yeah, those jumbo packets really help with RTP.`
`02:55.15`	`orlock`	`</sarcasm>`
`02:55.28`	`denon`	`hehe`
`02:55.37`	`hieunm_vips`	`I'm reading channel.c source (version 1.4.0) and have a problem with 'generator' concept.`
`02:55.47`	`denon`	`J4k3: I have .. Ive seen people who think a switch is just as good as a router`
`02:55.57`	`J4k3`	`denon: "proper design" :)`
`02:55.59`	`hieunm_vips`	`Could someone help me to explain 'generator' concept.`
`02:56.00`	`denon`	`gets pretty messy when you throw a few thousand users in a totally switched lan`
`02:56.18`	`hieunm_vips`	`what does it mean? what for it is used?`
`02:56.20`	`J4k3`	`hell, just ARP gets messy that big`
`02:56.23`	`denon`	`nod`
`02:56.28`	`denon`	`yeah, I guess you can get pretty aggressive with your switch filtering and do it ok ..`
`02:56.34`	`denon`	`but I really prefer routed networks`
`02:56.36`	`J4k3`	`yeah`
`02:56.56`	`denon`	`not to mention routers can do so much more, with such lightweight hardware`
`02:57.39`	`J4k3`	`yeah... its cheap to make an awesome network if you've got clue available/on staff`
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`02:57.54`	`J4k3`	`if you gotta call cisco for everything... prepare to spend a metric fortune.`
`02:57.59`	`J4k3`	`;)`
`02:58.08`	`denon`	`J4k3: yeah, that's why we use WRTs for all our core infrastructures grin`
`02:58.34`	`denon`	`the nat at each aggregation point sure saves us a lot of money with arin!`
`02:59.12`	`denon`	`those pesky junipers run so hot compared to a wrt54g`
`02:59.15`	`J4k3`	`denon: wrts are kinda slow for this... those little intel arm chips are sexy tho`
`02:59.58`	`denon`	`J4k3: hmm, you could stack em up .. use an F5 box to break the traffic up, and scale it across a few dozen wrts`
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`03:02.43`	`bigred`	`for some reason, when i run the command "saynumber(123)" in my agi script, it does not run and i get an "invalid command". anyone know why?`
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`03:08.47`	`JunK-Y`	`its SAY NUMBER 123 \"\"\n in AGI`
`03:09.01`	`JunK-Y`	`or EXEC SAYNUMBER 123`
`03:09.21`	`JunK-Y`	`~agi api`
`03:09.23`	`jbot`	`from memory, agi api is at http://home.cogeco.ca/~camstuff/agi.html`
`03:09.44`	`bigred`	`JunK-Y: why are the commands different?`
`03:10.41`	`JunK-Y`	`cause its an API, if you would like to call dialplan commands, use exec before`
`03:11.01`	`JunK-Y`	`like: print("EXEC SAYNUMBER 123\n");`
`03:11.26`	`bigred`	`is there any reason to use one form over another?`
`03:11.59`	`JunK-Y`	`bigred: yes, one is following the api, the other not`
`03:12.06`	`JunK-Y`	`for better performance, use the apu.`
`03:15.15`	`bigred`	`JunK-Y: do you know anything about sending out massive amounts of outbound calls? (i am sending out school closing information)`
`03:15.32`	`bigred`	`i know i can't just dump in 1000 .call files. but i wonder how i can rate limit it`
`03:16.19`	`JunK-Y`	`use the AMI`
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`03:21.44`	`bigred`	`JunK-Y: you mean submitting them with the ami?`
`03:21.54`	`DocHolliday`	`whats the best tftp server for linux?`
`03:22.05`	`bigred`	`bigred: but can i just dump 1000 calls in there and have it not overwhelm the syssytem?`
`03:23.29`	`JunK-Y`	`bigred: yeah`
`03:24.03`	`bigred`	`JunK-Y: how can i limit it?`
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`03:25.35`	`zpertee`	`anybody running on debian?`
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`03:26.00`	`JunK-Y`	`on h exten, you could generate others`
`03:26.09`	`JunK-Y`	`zpertee: ubuntu!`
`03:26.43`	`zpertee`	`JunK-Y: does ubuntu have a package for it?`
`03:27.26`	`JunK-Y`	`yes`
`03:27.31`	`JunK-Y`	`apt-cache search asterisk`
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`03:28.50`	`b1gfish_`	`Hi`
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`03:49.18`	`blitzrage`	`DocHolliday: yum install tftp-server`
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`03:51.19`	`robby____`	`hey, is anywhere here familiar with the behaviour of action: queuestatus?`
`03:51.29`	`robby____`	`specifically, when do the stats reset`
`03:51.44`	`robby____`	`current testing seems to suggest they only reset when asterisk itself restart`
`03:51.45`	`robby____`	`+s`
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`04:26.55`	`LanceMSnyder`	`poke`
`04:32.47`	`k-man_`	`peek`
`04:32.54`	`tzanger`	`53280`
`04:33.57`	`k-man_`	`anyone here know how to do remote provisioning with the linksys spa942s?`
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`04:40.31`	`k-man_`	`oh, never mind, i found it`
`04:40.34`	`shido6`	`:)`
`04:47.50`	`LanceMSnyder`	`how do you send text to display like * USERNAME text in IRC :?`
`04:48.45`	`LanceMSnyder`	`I'm a noob for anything IRC, other than downloading "fully licensed" copies of microsoft products`
`04:48.59`	`CunningPike`	`LanceMSnyder: Like that?`
`04:49.09`	`CunningPike`	`Or`
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`04:51.04`	`LanceSnyder`	`interesting, whenever i try to do RPC-HTTPS on a WRT54G router, it reboots`
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`04:52.59`	`Sargun`	`hey all.`
`04:53.05`	`LanceSnyder`	`word`
`04:57.19`	`Sargun`	`What's a good B2B VoIP provider that has a NOC in California?`
`04:57.26`	`Sargun`	`Or decent pings to northern california.`
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`05:01.12`	`Sargun`	`and how do you guys recommend I do fax?`
`05:01.38`	`marc7`	`¡http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax`
`05:03.27`	`Sargun`	`Who supports T.38?`
`05:03.42`	`Sargun`	`What B2B providers?`
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`05:04.26`	`LanceSnyder`	`WHOA`
`05:04.35`	`LanceSnyder`	`mysql is still supported via asterisk correct`
`05:04.37`	`LanceSnyder`	`?????`
`05:04.45`	`LanceSnyder`	`it's just in the addons package`
`05:04.45`	`russellb`	`yes ..`
`05:05.01`	`russellb`	`or, you're better off using odbc, actually`
`05:05.04`	`russellb`	`it's better maintained`
`05:05.09`	`LanceSnyder`	`ahhh`
`05:05.14`	`LanceSnyder`	`cool`
`05:05.29`	`Sargun`	`Yeah`
`05:05.45`	`LanceSnyder`	`i read the thing in the doc directory of the source`
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`05:06.51`	`LanceSnyder`	`"Mysql is now under LGPL and not GPL, and since asterisk does not allow exceptions to GPL they were removing support for mysql support from asterisk" blah blah`
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`05:07.58`	`russellb`	`that must have happened years ago ...`
`05:09.01`	`LanceSnyder`	`anyone have a 1.2.x src that could check for that ?`
`05:09.15`	`LanceSnyder`	`src/doc/mysql.txt`
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`05:10.44`	`Qwell`	`no such file`
`05:10.54`	`LanceSnyder`	`so it has to be recent`
`05:10.56`	`Qwell`	`oh, nm`
`05:11.02`	`LanceSnyder`	`oh sweet haha`
`05:11.08`	`Qwell`	`other way around`
`05:11.31`	`Qwell`	`the libs are now gpl`
`05:12.24`	`LanceSnyder`	`excellent`
`05:12.32`	`LanceSnyder`	`i can't wait to test * and oracle`
`05:12.49`	`LanceSnyder`	`my favorite pbx and my favorite RDBMS`
`05:13.03`	`Qwell`	`can unixodbc do oracle?`
`05:13.10`	`LanceSnyder`	`func_odbc can`
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`05:13.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes`
`05:13.15`	`LanceSnyder`	`yes`
`05:13.15`	`Qwell`	`neat`
`05:13.18`	`Sargun`	`Qwell, yeah.`
`05:13.26`	`Sargun`	`Darn, you guys beat me too it!`
`05:13.26`	`LanceSnyder`	`the greatest thing ever`
`05:13.45`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: http://home.fnal.gov/~dbox/oracle/odbc/`
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`05:14.17`	`Qwell`	`scary, I just heard about fnal a couple hours ago`
`05:15.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`on Slashdot?`
`05:15.34`	`Qwell`	`no`
`05:16.25`	`DocHolliday`	`hey Qwell`
`05:16.43`	`DocHolliday`	`xxzxx`
`05:16.47`	`DocHolliday`	`woops :(`
`05:18.23`	`b1gfish_`	`N00b question here, but i've compiled and installed *1.4.0. Does the Queue application come standard? I'm not seeing it in the applications list`
`05:18.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`Yes... it's in app_queue.so`
`05:19.59`	`b1gfish_`	`hmmm, weird then that I get a "No application 'Queue' for extension" error when trying to use it...`
`05:20.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`Is it loaded?`
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`05:20.37`	`Juggie`	`it should be installed and loaded by default`
`05:20.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`Type: load app_queue.so`
`05:20.49`	`b1gfish_`	`i thought it was by default, lemme try now`
`05:20.57`	`Juggie`	`do what Corydon-w, said.`
`05:21.01`	`Juggie`	`did you upgade from an old install?`
`05:21.02`	`Corydon76-home`	`Maybe the problem is that you have no queues.conf. That will prevent it from activating.`
`05:21.05`	`Juggie`	`or is it totally fresh.`
`05:21.16`	`zpertee`	`app_chanspy.so loading module failed. any idea?`
`05:22.08`	`b1gfish_`	`Corydon,Juggie: module wasnt loaded :) Thanks! My ASSumption was that it was loaded by default.`
`05:22.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`b1gfish_: might be you have "noload => app_queue.so" in modules.conf`
`05:22.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`or "autoload=no"`
`05:23.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`Either of those lines will prevent it from loading`
`05:23.12`	`Juggie`	`b1gfish_, was i said, is this a fresh install?`
`05:23.16`	`Juggie`	`or an upgrade.`
`05:24.34`	`b1gfish_`	`fresh install`
`05:24.49`	`Juggie`	`check your modules.conf as Corydon said.`
`05:24.58`	`b1gfish_`	`perhaps it didnt load the queues module cause i didnt have a quese.conf file to begin with?`
`05:25.05`	`Juggie`	`yes.`
`05:25.08`	`Juggie`	`that would do it`
`05:25.12`	`Juggie`	`and then you added one i guess`
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`05:25.15`	`b1gfish_`	`cause i'm trying to load the module now and its giving errors about the queues.conf file, so i suspect i have syntax errors in it`
`05:25.26`	`Juggie`	`yes thats likely ;)`
`05:25.30`	`robby____`	`did you do make samples when you installed everything?`
`05:25.40`	`Juggie`	`you should copy the queues.conf.sample and use it to build from`
`05:25.48`	`b1gfish_`	`yeah, but i moved the samples OUT of the config directory to clean it all up :)`
`05:26.04`	`b1gfish_`	`yeah I will do`
`05:26.28`	`Juggie`	`anyways, sleepy.`
`05:26.36`	`Juggie`	`skied all night, time for simpsons and sleep.`
`05:26.44`	`b1gfish_`	`queues now loaded! thanks guys!`
`05:26.56`	`b1gfish_`	`Simpons, respect..`
`05:27.32`	`zpertee`	`where is the asterisk.conf file located at?`
`05:27.57`	`Sargun`	`?`
`05:28.00`	`Sargun`	`asterisk.conf?`
`05:28.03`	`Sargun`	`What the heck?`
`05:28.14`	`Sargun`	`zpertee, Really depends on the distro.`
`05:28.32`	`zpertee`	`I have debian. trying to load/unload modules`
`05:29.23`	`kaldemar`	`zpertee: /etc/asterisk`
`05:29.48`	`zpertee`	`kaldemar: ok thanks`
`05:29.49`	`kaldemar`	`modules.conf is also worth taking a look at if you don't want to load some modules.`
`05:32.08`	`zpertee`	`kaldemar: how do I know if I need chanspy?`
`05:32.19`	`Sargun`	`zpertee, Are you using it?`
`05:32.59`	`Juggie`	`its an application, you dont 'need' it unless you are using it`
`05:33.51`	`zpertee`	`Sargun: no. I just installed the debian asterisk package and I haven't been able to do anything because this module is catching it up`
`05:34.06`	`b1gfish_`	`Do you guys forsee that there would be major benefits in cleaning up the modules loaded at startup time? As in, would one expect to see dramatic improvements in resources if unused modules were not loaded?`
`05:34.09`	`zpertee`	`Juggie: how do I turn it off`
`05:34.13`	`Sargun`	`disable it.`
`05:34.15`	`Juggie`	`haha my favorite episode is on.`
`05:34.23`	`Juggie`	`its the pinchy episode.`
`05:34.33`	`Sargun`	`b1gfish_, Faster start-up times, lesser memory space taken`
`05:34.35`	`b1gfish_`	`Juggie: mmmmm, pichy tastes so good`
`05:34.53`	`b1gfish_`	`Juggie: "can we have some dad?" "NO!, Pinchy would have wanted it this way"`
`05:35.08`	`Juggie`	`sssshh your ruining it it just started :)`
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`05:35.29`	`b1gfish_`	`Sargun: figured as such. So answer is Yes, it would be beneficial.`
`05:36.03`	`Sargun`	`but barely`
`05:36.26`	`Juggie`	`unloading modules wont save much memory but for a low memory system it will help`
`05:36.44`	`Juggie`	`theres a cli command to show memory usage`
`05:36.51`	`Juggie`	`i dont remember it offhand but, feel free to look`
`05:38.16`	`kaldemar`	`zpertee: if you don't want to listen to calls that go through your asterisk box, then you won't need it.`
`05:38.46`	`zpertee`	`kaldemar: ok thanks for the info`
`05:39.13`	`kaldemar`	`zpertee: and you can disable it by putting noload=app_chanspy.so to modules.conf`
`05:39.25`	`zpertee`	`kaldemar: ok`
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`05:47.01`	`gerphimum`	`goodnight... <3 I don*t know any of you but I hope you have a good night... <3`
`05:49.49`	`Qwell`	`stalk much?`
`05:51.03`	`russellb`	`<3`
`05:51.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : Nothing says "I Love You" quite like a restraining order...`
`05:56.11`	`russellb`	`yay, i'm stalker free`
`05:56.15`	`zpertee`	`kaldemar: is it possible to not load any modules?`
`05:56.17`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heh`
`05:56.26`	`russellb`	`eep`
`05:57.37`	`robby____`	`hrmmm`
`05:57.41`	`robby____`	`having an interesting problem`
`05:57.49`	`robby____`	`if i put a call on hold, and then my handset dies`
`05:57.55`	`robby____`	`is there any way to recover that call?`
`05:57.58`	`Juggie`	`Qwell, did you buy the dvd yet?`
`05:58.02`	`Qwell`	`nope`
`05:58.05`	`Juggie`	`slacker`
`05:58.20`	`Juggie`	`zpertee, but then you coudnt do much.`
`05:58.24`	`russellb`	`robby____: um, no`
`05:58.36`	`russellb`	`robby____: wouldn't the real issue by that your handset died?`
`05:58.41`	`russellb`	`that should be a pretty rare occurance.`
`05:58.56`	`Juggie`	`you could take the call off hold and transfer it with your phone`
`05:58.59`	`russellb`	`and even more rare that it happens with a call on hold.`
`05:59.06`	`Juggie`	`or you could just call back ;)`
`05:59.08`	`robby____`	`yeah, were running about 50 handsets, so its happening enough to cause a problem`
`05:59.19`	`zpertee`	`anybody used voiponcd?`
`05:59.24`	`robby____`	`the problem is, they are on hold there, so they think someone is going to come back`
`05:59.27`	`Corydon76-home`	`You could use app_directed_pickup to recapture the call`
`05:59.36`	`russellb`	`robby____: what kind of phones do you have that suck that much?`
`05:59.38`	`Juggie`	`well, your handsets should not be dying.`
`05:59.43`	`robby____`	`ahh grandstream phones`
`05:59.57`	`robby____`	`which used to work quite nicely, but dont seem to be aging all that gracefully`
`06:00.05`	`JT`	`hahaha`
`06:00.05`	`russellb`	`that's no good ...`
`06:00.09`	`JT`	`50 grandstreams`
`06:00.09`	`russellb`	`have you contacted them about it?`
`06:00.16`	`robby____`	`not yet we havent`
`06:00.26`	`Corydon76-home`	`robby____: sounds like someone did a firmware upgrade recently`
`06:00.27`	`robby____`	`were going to trial a few different handsets soon`
`06:00.29`	`russellb`	`that would be a good start ...`
`06:00.31`	`JT`	`~gs`
`06:00.41`	`jbot`	`well, gs is South Georgia and the South Sandwich islands, or ghostscript. GrandSuck phones are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice`
`06:00.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~gs`
`06:00.52`	`jbot`	`[gs] South Georgia and the South Sandwich islands, or ghostscript. GrandSuck phones are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice`
`06:00.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`heh`
`06:01.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`beat me to it :)`
`06:01.10`	`Juggie`	`robby____, give one of the Mitel sip enabled phones a try.`
`06:01.20`	`JT`	`the ghost of [TK]D-Fender christmas mast is rolling in his grave`
`06:01.26`	`Juggie`	`they are top notch hardware.`
`06:01.26`	`russellb`	`polycom!`
`06:01.27`	`JT`	`s/mast/past/`
`06:01.30`	`Juggie`	`bah`
`06:01.31`	`robby____`	`cool ill try to get hold of one of those`
`06:01.40`	`Juggie`	`i've never ever seen a mitel phone die`
`06:01.44`	`robby____`	`were getting hold of a netcomm one to try too`
`06:01.45`	`Juggie`	`at least not one i didnt kill myself.`
`06:01.50`	`robby____`	`and possibly a linksys one too`
`06:01.55`	`russellb`	`polycommmmm`
`06:01.56`	`Juggie`	`and i did that to a full room`
`06:01.59`	`JT`	`netcomm, STEAR CLEAR`
`06:02.00`	`Juggie`	`but thats another story :)`
`06:02.20`	`robby____`	`hahah yeah, ive bricked a few of these grandstream buckets`
`06:03.30`	`JT`	`you must be in australia, robby____, to be considering all these dodgy brands ;)`
`06:03.30`	`robby____`	`i certainly am in australia hahah`
`06:03.30`	`JT`	`polycom is the favourite of most`
`06:03.30`	`JT`	`~phones`
`06:03.31`	`jbot`	`somebody said phones was http://bani.anime.net/phones/`
`06:03.32`	`Juggie`	`robby____, i bricked an entire room of mitels.`
`06:03.32`	`Corydon76-home`	`Polycom or Snom, depending upon your required featureset.`
`06:03.36`	`russellb`	`jbot: phones are really annoying`
`06:03.38`	`jbot`	`...but phones is already something else...`
`06:03.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`Avoid Grandstream and Cisco like the plague`
`06:03.38`	`Juggie`	`it was their fault though, they were all brandnew and had some version 1.xx firmware`
`06:03.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robby____ : Ok, understanding that by merely naming those brands you have labeled yourself as being "cheap".`
`06:03.52`	`Juggie`	`and they all connected ot the internet and downloaded the latest version without asking if they should upgade.`
`06:04.08`	`Juggie`	`and they all upgraded to version 6 without the required version5 upgade first.`
`06:04.09`	`Juggie`	`and boom.`
`06:04.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`robby____ : Tha being said on the lowest end of affordability with any reasonable quality in your area, Linksys is probably a fair choice.`
`06:04.27`	`JT`	`~phonwe`
`06:04.28`	`Juggie`	`but thats minor, we yelled @ them for that for plenty.`
`06:04.28`	`JT`	`~phone`
`06:04.30`	`jbot`	`i guess phone is warbling while I'm updating the flash from blob...it's amusing now, it's like it knows I'm erasing its brain. Mwa ha ha ha.`
`06:04.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~phones`
`06:04.38`	`jbot`	`i heard phones is http://bani.anime.net/phones/`
`06:04.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`z0mg`
`06:04.52`	`JT`	`[TK]D-Fender: wtf, someone deleted your list`
`06:04.53`	`JT`	`error`
`06:04.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wah`
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`06:05.13`	`robby____`	`im going to claim ignorance, all the stuff i read when we were first looking into them made the grandstream phones seem good, and the supplier we were talking to had never had problems with them`
`06:05.30`	`JT`	`that's because that's probably all they stock ;)`
`06:05.39`	`robby____`	`hahah yeah`
`06:05.40`	`Rick999`	`help ...anyone can help me with rapid-Xorcom ?`
`06:05.58`	`Juggie`	`robby____, http://www.mitel.com/DocController?documentId=17406 probally the cheapest mitel, but 110% solid hardware.`
`06:06.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~phones`
`06:06.19`	`jbot`	`methinks phones is http://bani.anime.net/phones/. SIP Hardphones in order of quality/suggestability : Polycom (any), Aastra 480i, Cisco 7940(+), Linksys SPA-9XX`
`06:06.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`there`
`06:07.04`	`Juggie`	`the cisco 7940 is a suggested phone?`
`06:07.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : (and higher)`
`06:07.16`	`Juggie`	`i woudnt touch a cisco`
`06:07.30`	`Juggie`	`they are absolute management nightmares`
`06:07.55`	`Corydon76-home`	`Agreed. The only reason anybody puts up with Cisco phones is that their routers are reasonable`
`06:08.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Yes it isn't always the easiest or cheapest, but you can't doubt the physical quality and the firmware can be a somewhat troublesome thing, but in the end they can be very reasonably stabl.`
`06:08.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's the brand name only. If Grandstream put out Cisco SIP images, they'd be out of business`
`06:08.40`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, the hardware might be ok, i doubt cisco even designed it`
`06:08.45`	`Juggie`	`none the less the sip fw is horrible`
`06:09.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : I'd bet less flakey than Snom / GS`
`06:09.19`	`Juggie`	`i'd bet the Mitels would beat em all`
`06:09.32`	`Juggie`	`except for that one minor upgrade problem i had which they have addressed.`
`06:09.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Sure disproportionate to the cost increase, but still earns a place (THIRD... come on... )`
`06:09.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Could be. I have heard good things about them and had I a chance to work with one, they might well earn a place.`
`06:10.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Send me one for examination!`
`06:10.12`	`Corydon76-home`	`The Polycoms deservedly have top billing`
`06:10.20`	`Juggie`	`theres a difference between a company that decided to make phones because they did networking (ie cisco) and a company thats been making phones for 20 years`
`06:11.01`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, sadly i am not at liberty to give out goverment property.`
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`06:11.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Corydon76-home : Agreed (until someone shows me something better)`
`06:12.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : not "give out" but rather "Send out for impartial 3rd party evaluation for suitability testing" :)`
`06:12.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Not even to keep :)`
`06:13.04`	`Juggie`	`i woudnt disagree w/ that polycom have years expirence in conferencing systems long before sip was around.`
`06:13.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : I am glad to learn for the sake of knowing.`
`06:13.38`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, you could ask them for one, i gave kpflemming a contact @ mitel one to try and get one for the lab @ digium i dont know if they did though.`
`06:13.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Nah... Polycom just put some more thought into how a phones interface should be, and didn't sacrifice the manufacturing quality in so doing.`
`06:14.25`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, thats what years of expirencing in the market gives you.`
`06:14.31`	`Juggie`	`*expirence`
`06:14.37`	`Juggie`	`they have been around for a long time`
`06:14.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Well Digium is a more recognized organization which would be in the same field as my reasoning. So I would be a more moot choice.`
`06:15.02`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, i'm not sure what you mean`
`06:15.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Dunno, I reserve good choices as being those of anyone with an IQ high enough to stop drinking from the toilet...`
`06:15.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Digium does VoIP on a corporate scale, I'm "small fry". Why give one to ME. <-`
`06:16.16`	`Juggie`	`hey if i could lend them out i would :)`
`06:16.19`	`russellb`	`which may or may not actually work.`
`06:16.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Nice to ask and learn, but impractical and already outclassed`
`06:17.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`russellb : Anything I learn gets fed back into "the system" here as you know.`
`06:17.10`	`russellb`	`that's true`
`06:17.17`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, whats impratical and outclassed?`
`06:17.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : ME`
`06:17.49`	`Juggie`	`oh hah.`
`06:17.50`	`Juggie`	`gotcha.`
`06:18.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : If Digium has them for the purpose of evaluating and training the community then thats my goal and its already being take care of.`
`06:18.55`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, i have no idea if they do, only that i gave kp a contact to try.`
`06:19.24`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, this is the one i have on my desk, http://valley-tel.com/images/Mitel/Phones/5235_straight.jpg i havnt tried the sip fw though, it runs in minet for my desk phone.`
`06:20.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Looks nifty. touch-screen is nice, and the profile/layout unobtrusive.`
`06:21.16`	`Juggie`	`yah, there are a few models above that too`
`06:22.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : But I hear Mitel is largely a reseller of "whatever odd model China is making a lot of this year" and that they don't necessarily support older models too long.`
`06:22.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Kinda "pump-and-dump".`
`06:22.59`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, that coudnt be farther from the truth`
`06:23.33`	`Juggie`	`this is the latest model: http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/06/mitel-5340.jpg`
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`06:24.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : jsut saw that one on a site...`
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`06:25.02`	`aadilismail`	`hi`
`06:25.42`	`russellb`	`Juggie: ooh, lots of buttons`
`06:25.49`	`russellb`	`Juggie: might be fun with SLA :)`
`06:25.59`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, so far as i know they design all their own stuff, all their phones have the same look @ feel`
`06:26.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Just found the 5235 for $359. Reasonable if the quality / usability & stability are there.`
`06:26.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`russellb : weren't .... YOU the one getting around the the rewrite of SLA? ;)`
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`06:26.58`	`russellb`	`[TK]D-Fender: yep. In fact, it's pretty much done`
`06:27.04`	`Juggie`	`russellb, me and blitzrage got the mitel phone working w/ multiple registrations`
`06:27.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`russellb: w00t`
`06:27.13`	`russellb`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have one thing to test tomorrow ... but the code is all there, already in the 1.4 branch`
`06:27.16`	`robby____`	`also, turns out my sip hint problem earlier was fixed with a full asterisk restart, reloading sip/extensions wouldnt do it`
`06:27.17`	`Juggie`	`the ui is kind of clunky to set it up, but once we figured it out it was easy`
`06:27.19`	`russellb`	`so it'll be in 1.4.1 which should be this week`
`06:27.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`russellb : And I'll be right there waiting.... for 1.4.1.aSTABLE :)`
`06:27.47`	`russellb`	`heh`
`06:28.11`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, i would argue that the 5235 is wayyy to high end for most users`
`06:28.29`	`aptura`	`where should my tx gain be at when watching ztmonitor. I am less then the 1/4 legnth of the bar graph. 300-500 on tx.`
`06:28.32`	`Juggie`	`the 5212 would be fine for 90% of people.`
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`06:28.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Ummm... DUH!`
`06:28.54`	`Juggie`	`i only have it because they got some to try and well, i know the right people to get one.`
`06:28.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : IP 430 covers jsut about every non receptionist user....`
`06:29.06`	`russellb`	`[TK]D-Fender: The asterisk repository is nearly 10 thousand revisions past the tag of 1.4.0. Now I'm going to go get some stats on how much we have changed in 1.4 since then :)`
`06:29.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Exactly the only grounds under which I'm likely to do the same :)`
`06:29.36`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, i dont know what the IP430 is.`
`06:29.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`russellb : So basically you adapted the revisioning system on a streaming-per-byte-basis? ;)`
`06:30.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Polycom SoundPoint IP 430`
`06:30.08`	`Juggie`	`ah, i've never used polycoms my apologies.`
`06:30.14`	`russellb`	`[TK]D-Fender: heh, nope. Most of the rev numbers disappear because of our automerge system`
`06:30.15`	`Juggie`	`well thats a lie, i have`
`06:30.17`	`Juggie`	`just not a sip phone`
`06:30.22`	`russellb`	`All developer branches are automatically kept up to date`
`06:30.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : You should try... its all the rage with kids these days :D`
`06:30.38`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, i dont work with asterisk at the office anymore`
`06:30.44`	`Juggie`	`unfortunatally.`
`06:30.50`	`Juggie`	`now i deal with CDR records`
`06:30.58`	`Juggie`	`for our toll free network`
`06:30.59`	`Juggie`	`funfun`
`06:31.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : I had 3 Polycoms at my HOME. Thats 1 per room.`
`06:31.25`	`russellb`	`changes in the 1.4 branch since 1.4.0 ... 190 files changed, 18571 insertions(+), 6538 deletions(-)`
`06:31.28`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, i have a 5215 (old model of the 5212) @ home.`
`06:31.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Sounds more like Diet Fun. Just like normal Fun, only half the Fun.`
`06:32.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`russellb : You know that I'll be waiting for those key SIP issues to be resolved and any of the other "hazardous" points to be covered.`
`06:32.38`	`Juggie`	`SLA is fun`
`06:32.50`	`Juggie`	`i wonder how many phones fully support that`
`06:32.55`	`russellb`	`there are no bugs.`
`06:32.57`	`clyrrad`	`SLA's a pain in the A**`
`06:32.58`	`clyrrad`	`:p`
`06:32.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : I'd say "I can't wait", but I've grown rather proficient ;)`
`06:33.18`	`Juggie`	`i met one of the guys from snom`
`06:33.20`	`Juggie`	`i forget who`
`06:33.22`	`russellb`	`Juggie: most should ...`
`06:33.26`	`Juggie`	`i was pretty drunk`
`06:33.31`	`russellb`	`they just have to support subscriptions for the most part`
`06:33.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Polycom is BIG on SLA support as well as Presence subscriptions.`
`06:34.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie : Imaging an IP 650 w/ 3 consoles..... :D`
`06:34.39`	`russellb`	`heh, you have a call on line 46!`
`06:34.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Yikes... God-aweful late here again... must be off to bed.`
`06:34.57`	`Juggie`	`i think it was probally the president of snom, or a lead engineer or something, but he argued w/ me that no sip phones supported 802.1x`
`06:35.04`	`Juggie`	`i argued that mitel did, but i didnt win.`
`06:35.07`	`Juggie`	`of course i was right.`
`06:35.23`	`Juggie`	`i never got a chance to talk to him again though to let him know`
`06:35.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Take care all... will be around...`
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`06:35.59`	`Juggie`	`i forget how it came up, it was some indepth conversation @ jack in the box at 2am.`
`06:36.09`	`J4k3`	`haha`
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`06:36.22`	`J4k3`	`I helped design a friend's (successful) ISP startup... at 4pm on a thursday at jack in the box`
`06:36.41`	`Juggie`	`dont laugh it was the only thing close to the hotel`
`06:36.46`	`Juggie`	`this was last years astricon.`
`06:36.50`	`J4k3`	`we consumed a metric ton of fried stuffed jalapenos`
`06:37.17`	`Juggie`	`i forget who was there, me, mog, some guy from snom, and a few others.`
`06:41.11`	`J4k3`	`well... we walked into jack in the box with him buying WindowsNT Server and a dual pentium-166 based system. By the time we left his shopping list was a couple midrange pentium boxes with good disks and FreeBSD 2.1...`
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`06:41.36`	`J4k3`	`he spent probably 1/10th as much as his original plan, and it obviously works since he's still running the same basic setup, just modernized.`
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`06:48.55`	`yxa`	`why arent there any updates for 1.4?`
`06:49.09`	`Juggie`	`there are`
`06:49.20`	`Juggie`	`download 1.4svn`
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`06:51.59`	`CabDriver151`	`anyone still up?`
`06:52.14`	`CabDriver151`	`well anyone who has worked with the cisco 7960?`
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`07:34.52`	`geoaxis`	`hello people`
`07:35.28`	`geoaxis`	`is it possible to send XML-RPC requests from asterisk (ie is there any working module )`
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`08:33.35`	`appelza`	`hi guys, is there a zaptel channel or can I ask zaptel related questions here?`
`08:33.57`	`appelza`	`either way, I'd like to know if the latest zaptel supports xorcomm astribanks?`
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`08:34.04`	`appelza`	`without the need to patch it`
`08:36.56`	`appelza`	`anyone? :P`
`08:43.02`	`Ifaistos`	`it does`
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`08:44.20`	`appelza`	`thanks, do you know since when this is supported?`
`08:44.44`	`appelza`	`im also searching for the changelogs`
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`08:51.09`	`e-ddie`	`morning Ahrimanes`
`08:51.31`	`Ahrimanes`	`mornin' e-ddie`
`08:52.12`	`e-ddie`	`do you know how to get * to playback a sound when the call gets back from timeout after trying to do an attended xfer?`
`08:53.12`	`e-ddie`	`some customers seems to dislike the call just falling back without notification :=`
`08:53.15`	`e-ddie`	`:)`
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`09:05.30`	`Ifaistos`	`appelza: Not sure, its in the xpp dir of the zaptel drivers`
`09:05.56`	`Ifaistos`	`appelza: never used though. just compiled it`
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`09:11.52`	`tzafrir`	`appelza, xorcom supports tells me that 1.2.13 and 1.2.14 does, as well as svn trunk and 1.4`
`09:12.32`	`foobar778`	`pigpen: Found out the cause`
`09:12.46`	`foobar778`	`Disconnect detection`
`09:13.23`	`foobar778`	`using a differnt DID number no problem`
`09:13.42`	`foobar778`	`But voicestick cause a problem`
`09:14.16`	`foobar778`	`aparently poor Disconnect Detection Supervision`
`09:20.17`	`geoaxis`	`is it possible to send XML-RPC requests from asterisk (ie is there any working module )`
`09:20.57`	`tzafrir`	`geoaxis, maybe something in the area of astproxyman, but I doubt it`
`09:21.11`	`tzafrir`	`oops, ignore that`
`09:21.49`	`tzafrir`	`geoaxis, in the worst case: use agi or system`
`09:22.22`	`HarryR`	`it wouldn't be too hard to write an xmlrpc module for asterisk, but the only problem is that the dialplan is crap in terms of programming ability`
`09:22.27`	`geoaxis`	`tzafrir: well there is an authetication requirement of a client which _has_ to go through xmlrpc`
`09:22.43`	`HarryR`	`you might as well just write it as a shell script which does it and call it from the dialplan`
`09:23.47`	`geoaxis`	`HarryR: I suggested that but client insists on a solution based on C`
`09:24.24`	`tzafrir`	`why is that? performance?`
`09:25.11`	`geoaxis`	`tzafrir: mission critical performance (more or less)`
`09:25.34`	`tzafrir`	`start by getting something working with an AGI. I figure that this would be the simplest way to get this working (to return a value)`
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`09:26.40`	`tzafrir`	`If you don't need to return a value: then use system`
`09:27.00`	`tzafrir`	`Then try to get an estimate of the overhead of the process generation vs. the overhead of the network connection`
`09:27.24`	`tzafrir`	`Is there a need of a separate connection per call?`
`09:29.41`	`tzafrir`	`to get a feeling of that, compare that to the overhead of a database access in a remote server via e.g the mysql() command or the odbc access`
`09:29.42`	`geoaxis`	`tzafrir: the probelm is that client is using a propitery voucher system , which for now only supports XML-RPC`
`09:30.19`	`geoaxis`	`there is _no_ access other than XML-RPC (thats a policy issue)`
`09:30.46`	`tzafrir`	`Right. But C module or agi or system is an implementation detail`
`09:30.55`	`geoaxis`	`for now my job is to help the asterisk deploment/dev team make this happen with their custom module`
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`09:31.19`	`geoaxis`	`it would be a good idea that later perhaps it gets ported in to asterisk main trunk`
`09:32.02`	`tzafrir`	`and I have suggested you methods to test if and how much a C module could help`
`09:33.01`	`geoaxis`	`tzafrir: I appreciate your input, I wish my team was more receptive to alternative solutions`
`09:33.48`	`geoaxis`	`I am a newbiew with asterisk and don't know what and what cannot be done with it`
`09:33.56`	`tzafrir`	`call that a "testing prototype".`
`09:35.19`	`geoaxis`	`ok`
`09:35.56`	`geoaxis`	`in php it would be a piece of cake to make xml-rp call`
`09:36.42`	`Ahrimanes`	`using cakephp ?`
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`09:46.42`	`nn`	`what's good in the way of -cheap- unlimited SIP for personal use?`
`09:50.41`	`Ahrimanes`	`e-ddie: i think there's actually an option for that`
`09:51.36`	`Ahrimanes`	`e-ddie: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+features.conf xfersound and xferfailsound`
`09:52.52`	`nn`	`anyone using sunrocket with *? :)`
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`09:56.26`	`jserve`	`hi all`
`10:01.32`	`e-ddie`	`Ahrimanes: i thought so too, but i can't really find any information about it`
`10:02.18`	`Ahrimanes`	`e-ddie: i just pastet links?`
`10:02.31`	`e-ddie`	`oh`
`10:02.48`	`e-ddie`	`but the xferfailsound just place if the number doesnt exist`
`10:02.56`	`Ahrimanes`	`hm`
`10:02.57`	`e-ddie`	`this is when the one you transfer to doesnt answer`
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`10:03.32`	`Ahrimanes`	`hm ok`
`10:03.35`	`Ahrimanes`	`not sure then`
`10:03.55`	`e-ddie`	`to make it play a sound, to make the person transferring the call aware of if not going trough before the call is back to the one who was to be transferred`
`10:04.03`	`Ahrimanes`	`e-ddie: but when doing attended transfer, you'd know if the other end picks up..`
`10:04.25`	`e-ddie`	`true`
`10:04.41`	`e-ddie`	`but they seem to discuss how stupid the people calling in are or something`
`10:05.04`	`e-ddie`	`and when it doesnt go through, the person calling in can hear them :)`
`10:05.10`	`Ahrimanes`	`haha`
`10:05.19`	`Ahrimanes`	`them not be too smart then`
`10:05.23`	`e-ddie`	`sounds like when i used to work for support`
`10:05.47`	`e-ddie`	`and one of my colleges muted the mic`
`10:05.56`	`e-ddie`	`and talked about how stupid the person was`
`10:06.09`	`e-ddie`	`the only problem was that the mute button was defect`
`10:06.18`	`e-ddie`	`so the customer said "are you talking about me?"`
`10:06.19`	`e-ddie`	`:)`
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`10:08.57`	`Ahrimanes`	`haha yeah`
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`10:09.27`	`js_`	`do i need some kind of sip card?`
`10:09.50`	`e-ddie`	`not really`
`10:09.53`	`nn`	`sip card?`
`10:09.58`	`js_`	`im very new to this`
`10:10.07`	`js_`	`id like to know if theres any special hardware i need to use sip`
`10:11.24`	`js_`	`i have no idea what i need, except asterisk`
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`10:12.36`	`nn`	`sip, no`
`10:12.56`	`js_`	`what is it i need? do i need some kind of provider?`
`10:13.50`	`nn`	`yea`
`10:13.59`	`nn`	`some place to terminate your calls off to the PSTN`
`10:14.06`	`nn`	`and perhaps send incoming calls to you`
`10:14.25`	`js_`	`so i need a pstn card?`
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`10:15.39`	`JT`	`not for sip`
`10:15.52`	`JT`	`it's just voip`
`10:16.32`	`js_`	`JT: what do i need in order to receive calls, play a message and receive a code pressed by a caller?`
`10:17.07`	`JT`	`asterisk`
`10:17.19`	`js_`	`and an internet connection? is that it?`
`10:17.22`	`JT`	`yes`
`10:17.28`	`js_`	`no provider?`
`10:17.30`	`JT`	`if the call is delivered by SIP or IAX`
`10:17.34`	`js_`	`i see`
`10:17.35`	`JT`	`yes you'll need an ITSP`
`10:19.15`	`nn`	`so no one knows a cheap provider with US DID's?`
`10:21.03`	`J4k3`	`vitelity is treating me alright so far`
`10:21.11`	`J4k3`	`$8/mo unlimited incoming DID`
`10:21.17`	`J4k3`	`2 concurrent`
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`10:24.38`	`nn`	`J4k3: got a link?`
`10:25.07`	`nn`	`i mainly need to set up some kind of call screening`
`10:25.13`	`J4k3`	`http://www.vitelity.net/`
`10:25.42`	`J4k3`	`press 1 for sales, press 2 for support, press 3 if you're a salesman`
`10:25.50`	`J4k3`	`press 3 "goodbye"`
`10:25.52`	`J4k3`	`hehe`
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`10:26.00`	`nn`	`J4k3: no, each person gets a unique 4 digit #`
`10:26.09`	`nn`	`if i no longer like someone, i block their ID`
`10:26.26`	`nn`	`and just write it places as an "extension"`
`10:28.36`	`nn`	`hmm`
`10:28.51`	`nn`	`why can i not sign up below 35$?`
`10:28.55`	`JT`	`how do they ring you for an id?`
`10:30.45`	`nn`	`SIP registration`
`10:31.08`	`JT`	`?`
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`10:38.15`	`yonahw-work`	`does anyone know where i can find some info on getting a sip subscribe/notify to work?`
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`10:43.32`	`yonahw-work`	`i can see the hint but not the subscription`
`10:52.50`	`EmleyMoor`	`I'd like to do processing of incoming ring cadences, and also of caller ID. At present, though, the ring cadences are not detected if caller ID is on. I tried the Australian patch and it didn't have any effect. Anyone managed this on BT yet?`
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`10:56.48`	`florz`	`Is there some way to make asterisk ToS-mark only media packets and not signaling packets?`
`10:57.56`	`nn`	`J4k3: you still around?`
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`11:03.24`	`JT`	`florz: that should be easy at the network level`
`11:03.29`	`JT`	`not necessarily asterisk`
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`11:07.51`	`nn`	`JT: * does the tagging of the packets`
`11:08.30`	`JT`	`nn: explain`
`11:09.03`	`nn`	`JT: its done via the bsd sockets api iirc setsockopts()`
`11:09.05`	`kezza491`	`using freeworlddial to for my calling i can call out but no recive calls why would that be? i dont see any request come thought on my asterisk consult`
`11:09.49`	`JT`	`nn: what do you mean, since when does asterisk ToS mark packets by default?`
`11:10.27`	`nn`	`JT: it's had an option as long as i can remember to do so`
`11:10.44`	`JT`	`what's the option?`
`11:12.45`	`nn`	`tos=`
`11:13.03`	`nn`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+tos`
`11:16.36`	`florz`	`JT: It would involve heuristics at the network level, while asterisk could do the marking exactly correct.`
`11:16.57`	`JT`	`nn: that's not a default action though`
`11:17.24`	`JT`	`is it that big a problem for sip packets to be tagged?`
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`11:20.17`	`florz`	`JT: Well, I did implement a traffic shaper/prioritizer that, amongst other things, reduces bandwidth utilisation when it encounters low-latency traffic. Now, it shouldn't do that every few seconds when asterisk REGISTERs to some SIP server =:-)`
`11:21.01`	`JT`	`then make it ignore udp 5060`
`11:21.12`	`florz`	`Well, that is what I did now :-)`
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`11:23.59`	`JT`	`seems the easiest`
`11:24.25`	`kezza491`	`i cant seem to get asterisk to communicate with call request`
`11:24.45`	`kezza491`	`but i can make calls`
`11:24.52`	`kezza491`	`i jsut cant recive them`
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`11:25.39`	`kezza491`	`i dont get anything in any of my logs of a request`
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`11:42.40`	`nfi\|ermes`	`when i logon to asterisk-gui, asterisk goes to segmentation fault. bt of core dump : http://pastebin.com/891354`
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`11:52.18`	`queuetue`	`Hi. Is anyone running asterisk w/zaptel on Debian? After an "m-a a-i zaptel", the zaptel and wcfxo modules are installed, but the wcfxs module is not... Has something changed to make that module not required, or do I need to do something differently?`
`11:57.41`	`nn`	`florz: yea if you can avoid shaping on the sip and just shape on the RTP you're fine`
`11:57.48`	`nn`	`maybe set specific rtp ports?`
`11:58.38`	`queuetue`	`The wcfxs module is still required to use digium FXO cards, right?`
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`12:04.08`	`JT`	`nn: that's pretty much what i said... ignore 5060`
`12:04.14`	`JT`	`sounds like it works anyway`
`12:04.27`	`JT`	`rtp is always a range`
`12:09.15`	`queuetue`	`Ah, wctdm is what I need, I think.`
`12:11.05`	`nn`	`now.. if i can get my 24 port FXS working today..`
`12:11.47`	`nn`	`once i figure out how to configure it to have one sip username per port, i'll be fine`
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`12:14.21`	`omri`	`what hardware do I need to set-up an asterisk PBX with 5 outside lines and ~10 inside stations?`
`12:14.37`	`omri`	`PCI cards mostly, not CPU\memory`
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`12:25.01`	`trukosh`	`Hi, i have a HFC-card where an ISDN-base-station(2phones) is connected. I did configure my asterisk with zapata (bristuff,zaphfc+florz-patch). Would it be possible to realise this setup with misdn instead of zap?`
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`12:26.02`	`geoaxis`	`hello people`
`12:26.54`	`geoaxis`	`can any one recoment a good SIP client ( I want to play with asterisk on KDE , GTK based stuff is good but QT preffered)`
`12:28.20`	`JT`	`trukosh: maybe, but why would you want to?`
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`12:29.04`	`JT`	`omri: if they must be analogue, TDM2400P or similar or T1 card + channel bank`
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`12:32.22`	`trukosh`	`JT i crashed the server (other reason), after reinstalling (same OS - ubuntu 606) i don't get it running stable. I tried 5 versions of bristuff. But after running for about 20 hours the server "dies silently" (no log-msgs), when phoning much faster.`
`12:32.49`	`omri`	`JT, what are the price ranges of such a card?`
`12:34.11`	`trukosh`	`JT at work i installed an asterisk with misdn and AVM-PCI-Card (no HFC) and that was straight forward. I just wasn't sure whether misdn supports HFC and NT listen mode..`
`12:34.26`	`florz`	`trukosh: maybe you should look for hardware defects =:-)`
`12:37.19`	`trukosh`	`florz: When it is hardware, then it must be the HFC-Card. Server runs stable, when asterisk is not running. I will give misdn a try. And if that doesn't work i ll fetch a new hfc-card. Perhaps one, that costs more than 15EUR ;)`
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`12:40.03`	`JT`	`omri: digium.com`
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`12:40.37`	`JT`	`trukosh: misdn isn't that great`
`12:40.44`	`JT`	`NT mode is really poor in misdn`
`12:41.01`	`florz`	`trukosh: Well, as stable as it does run from my experience, it pretty much must be a hardware problem.`
`12:41.10`	`JT`	`try bristuff 0.3.0 PRE1-w`
`12:42.28`	`florz`	`trukosh: Plus, it's not always true that the component that causes a problem to occur when plugged in really is the defective one.`
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`12:44.53`	`ThoMe`	`JT: is bristuff principle better as NT in conjunction with ISDN?`
`12:44.58`	`ThoMe`	`aaeh`
`12:44.58`	`McGee`	`Hi`
`12:45.03`	`ThoMe`	`JT: is bristuff principle better as mISDN in conjunction with ISDN?`
`12:45.16`	`JT`	`i think you're asking if it's better`
`12:45.19`	`JT`	`it is`
`12:46.32`	`trukosh`	`OK, as i hadn't tried bristuff 0.3.0 PRE1-w, ill do this now. Thanks JT and florz. I'll give feedback later..`
`12:47.04`	`ThoMe`	`JT: you to be given to bristuff? ;)`
`12:47.13`	`JT`	`ThoMe: i don't understand`
`12:47.45`	`McGee`	`If i dial using SIP and the Channel is somehow busy/congested, how can i go on dialing using some other channel? I did not find any docs on how to do that.`
`12:48.06`	`McGee`	`Possibly because i lack some good keywords to serach for.`
`12:48.21`	`ThoMe`	`JT: you tendency to bristuff?`
`12:48.39`	`JT`	`ThoMe: didn't i already say that?`
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`12:49.40`	`ThoMe`	`JT: passt schon dicker.`
`12:49.57`	`ThoMe`	`never mind...!`
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`12:50.33`	`JT`	`ThoMe: ...`
`12:50.59`	`JT`	`ThoMe: talking to me in a foreign language, i will assume you're saying something rude`
`12:51.37`	`vlt`	`Hello. Is there a function in v1.2 that lets me hook into a call and talk to one or both participants, something like v1.4's ChanSpy(\|w)?`
`12:51.46`	`ThoMe`	`JT: lerning german :P`
`12:52.44`	`florz`	`JT: Maybe, it's not even clear to me how he means it ...`
`12:53.01`	`JT`	`you're german? ;)`
`12:53.08`	`florz`	`yeah`
`12:53.22`	`ThoMe`	`florz: du kannst deutsch? ;)`
`12:53.29`	`florz`	`ThoMe: Ich gehe davon aus =:-)`
`12:53.38`	`ThoMe`	`florz: Oh, sogar ohne Fehler! zwinker`
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`12:54.54`	`florz`	`ThoMe: Ich meine, wie auch immer Du das gemeint hast, aber Dein Englisch ist echt schwierig zu verstehen, selbst wenn man versucht, es gegen deutsche Satzstrukturen u.ae. abzugleichen.`
`12:56.47`	`McGee`	`Hehe`
`12:57.26`	`McGee`	`Anyway: wie mach ich nun ein Fallback auf ISDN wenn der SipProvider den Call nicht durchbekommt? ;)`
`12:57.26`	`ThoMe`	`florz: Ich kann auch ziemlich schlecht englisch, ja. Mir sind halt auch ziemlich viele Worte unbekannt. Dann schau ich auf dict.leo.org und sehe 10 verschiedene Worte die angeblich alle die selbe Bedeutung haben. Ist wohl nicht ganz so wie ich hier feststelle. :-)`
`12:58.12`	`ThoMe`	`florz: Aber vielleicht kannst Du meine Frage dem JT stellen? Ich moechte wissen was besser ist um mit ISDN zu arbeiten, mISDN oder das britstuff-Zeug? Ich habe eine Digium 4 S0-Port-Karte.`
`12:58.23`	`ThoMe`	`florz: Und Danke das Du mich aufgeklaert hast. :-)`
`12:58.27`	`ThoMe`	`(wirklich!)`
`12:59.27`	`mendol`	`anybody here, using trixbox 2.0, had problem with very long web interface loading time?`
`13:01.31`	`queuetue`	`mendol: I don't generally find many trixbox users in here - try #trixbox`
`13:02.21`	`mendol`	`i did, but i kinda solve the problem already :-) but thanks a lot for info`
`13:03.43`	`florz`	`ThoMe: Das Problem ist wahrscheinlich eher der Satzbau als die einzelnen Woerter, sodass man nicht so recht weiss, wie die Woerter nun zueinander in Beziehung stehen sollen schulterzuck.`
`13:04.16`	`JT`	`talking about jt in german, nice :P`
`13:04.18`	`florz`	`ThoMe: Aber das hat er im Prinzip doch schon beantwortet: er findet bristuff fuer NT-Mode besser`
`13:05.03`	`florz`	`JT: Nah, he was just asking whether I could translate his question for you to understand it ;-)`
`13:05.22`	`JT`	`:P`
`13:06.00`	`ThoMe`	`florz: war NT-Mode Anlagenanschluss? Wir haben einen Anlagenanschluss.`
`13:06.26`	`florz`	`JT: But I guess you already answered it, which is why you don't see any translation, in case you wondered ... ;-)`
`13:07.01`	`JT`	`misdn is very alpha software, and bad nt mode support :)`
`13:07.13`	`JT`	`also can't use and zap features`
`13:07.40`	`JT`	`s/and/any/`
`13:07.54`	`florz`	`ThoMe: Nein, NT-mode ist das Gegenteil von TE-Mode, das ist orthogonal zu Anlagenanschluss (PtP) vs. Mehrgeraeteanschluss (PtMP)`
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`13:08.10`	`whocares123`	`Hi I have a problem with callerid from a zapatel hardware. Can anyone help.`
`13:08.50`	`ThoMe`	`florz: Hm.. ok. Danke! Arbeitest Du auch mit ISDN?`
`13:09.50`	`florz`	`ThoMe: Ist http://zaphfc.florz.dyndns.org/ eine ausreichende Antwort? ;-)`
`13:10.05`	`macTijn`	`zaphfc is no longer in development`
`13:10.13`	`macTijn`	`you might want to check visdn.org`
`13:10.20`	`macTijn`	`eh`
`13:10.21`	`macTijn`	`wait`
`13:10.24`	`macTijn`	`that came our wrong`
`13:10.30`	`macTijn`	`zaphfc is crap`
`13:10.40`	`macTijn`	`florz's patch fixes a lot, but still :)`
`13:11.11`	`macTijn`	`I'd better watch for mISDN, since digium is active on that too`
`13:11.22`	`macTijn`	`and vISDN is also promising`
`13:12.08`	`whocares123`	`please!`
`13:12.28`	`florz`	`macTijn: Erm, what exactly is crap about zaphfc, if I may ask? I mean, with my patch applied ;-) (don't say "the source" ;-)`
`13:12.47`	`TaiSHi`	`Hello my oranges :D`
`13:13.43`	`macTijn`	`florz: your patch makes stuff better :)`
`13:14.06`	`macTijn`	`florz: but unfortunately it breaks stuff in the Netherlands`
`13:14.27`	`macTijn`	`florz: so I am quite focussed on what vihai is doing :)`
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`13:19.07`	`florz`	`macTijn: Oh, this rumored KPN problem that I never quite could find out what it really is?`
`13:19.16`	`macTijn`	`florz: yes, that one`
`13:19.22`	`Rick999`	`hell all: anyone using asterisk on an E-machine box? which flavor of linux and what version of asterisk?`
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`13:19.36`	`macTijn`	`florz: apparently, KPN turns off power after 3 minutes of disuse`
`13:19.36`	`the1_`	`hello, my ip fone is behind a nat gateway, my asterisk/trixbox server is also behind another nat gateway, is this possible?`
`13:19.56`	`florz`	`macTijn: Do you have any info what really is going on on their lines that is causing problems?`
`13:20.08`	`macTijn`	`florz: it's some extra timer thing, don't know the details`
`13:20.26`	`macTijn`	`florz: I hope to have all the significant details on it soon`
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`13:21.33`	`macTijn`	`florz: the funny thing is, plain bristuff works, but with your patch it breaks. vzaphfc (vihai's patch) works, and is stable in a scary way`
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`13:21.48`	`rutski`	`hi all`
`13:21.51`	`macTijn`	`florz: vihai's vISDN is broken again`
`13:22.39`	`rutski`	`I'm completely new to the idea of a PBX, so please bear with me if my question seem very unenlightened.`
`13:22.57`	`mafkees`	`florz: I have some info`
`13:22.59`	`rutski`	`I'm looking to hook a computer up as the gateway for all phone calls coming into my office`
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`13:23.14`	`mafkees`	`on normal ISDN lines, they put the lines in 'sleep' mode after 3 minutes idle`
`13:23.18`	`mafkees`	`this is to save power`
`13:23.23`	`rutski`	`I would like to get the phone number of the person calling, and then send the call along to the office phones`
`13:23.34`	`mafkees`	`you can fix this by calling the KPN and ask them to put permanent power on it`
`13:23.38`	`rutski`	`while being able to do something like storing the phone number in a database`
`13:23.42`	`rutski`	`can asterisk help me do that?`
`13:23.55`	`mafkees`	`you have to ask firmly, because normally they only do that for hospitals and doctors`
`13:24.04`	`macTijn`	`mafkees: I know who to call now :)`
`13:24.25`	`macTijn`	`mafkees: got it fixed on my own ISDN as well as those of my customers :)`
`13:24.34`	`mafkees`	`yeah me too`
`13:24.41`	`macTijn`	`mafkees: the only thing is that a quatrovox does it as well`
`13:24.43`	`mafkees`	`got the same problem with qozap`
`13:24.47`	`macTijn`	`ah`
`13:24.52`	`florz`	`mafkees: Erm, but they won't power down the complete ISDN line, will they? I mean, how would you be supposed to make phone calls then?`
`13:25.15`	`macTijn`	`florz: they lower the power and stop the signalling`
`13:25.15`	`mafkees`	`florz: you have to give some kind of 'signal' to repower it`
`13:25.33`	`rutski`	`aww, nobody knows the answer to my question? :)`
`13:26.14`	`florz`	`macTijn/mafkees: Well, what does that mean, in real protocol terms?`
`13:26.28`	`mafkees`	`I never sniffed the actual protocol stuff`
`13:26.47`	`macTijn`	`florz: there is no signalling`
`13:27.38`	`macTijn`	`florz: on outgoing calls, the NT1 renegotiates with the telco`
`13:27.49`	`florz`	`macTijn: Well, what does that look like on the line? I mean, is that like HDLC flags on the d channel?`
`13:27.58`	`macTijn`	`nope`
`13:28.07`	`macTijn`	`d channel is silent, I believe`
`13:28.17`	`macTijn`	`have to check to be sure`
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`13:29.12`	`Mahmoud`	`any one here uses asterisk for video conferencing?`
`13:29.42`	`florz`	`macTijn: But what does "silent" mean? It's a synchronous connection, so if the d channel is working at all, you have to be transferring data, you can't "just stop".`
`13:31.18`	`TaiSHi`	`Mmm`
`13:31.29`	`florz`	`macTijn: If you say, the NT1 renegotiates upon connection request: do they actually tear down the connection like you unplugged the NT1?`
`13:31.37`	`TaiSHi`	`I figured that half of the things I asked last night were covered in the next 30 pages I've read on TFOT`
`13:32.00`	`queuetue`	`I'm setting up a new asterisk box, finally from scratch instead of using one of the various guis. Can anyone point to a good guide to follow? The asterisk wiki is, I think, good for reference, but not great for a step-by-step from scratch.`
`13:32.30`	`queuetue`	`Mostly building a dialplan - basic install, I've got working.`
`13:32.30`	`florz`	`macTijn: After all, either that or d channel is up and thus transferring data!?`
`13:32.41`	`JT`	`ok i can answer this`
`13:32.47`	`JT`	`the S-bus goes to NO CARRIER`
`13:32.51`	`JT`	`no sync`
`13:32.53`	`JT`	`no d channel`
`13:32.54`	`JT`	`nothing`
`13:33.11`	`JT`	`i have analysed this behaviour with my handheld oscilloscope`
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`13:33.26`	`JT`	`i think it's PTMP specific`
`13:33.32`	`JT`	`don't think PTP does it`
`13:33.37`	`JT`	`and it works fine with qozap`
`13:33.39`	`TaiSHi`	`queuetue: TFOT is a good one`
`13:33.57`	`JT`	`it's normal for PTMP it seems`
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`13:36.05`	`JT`	`and yeah i think it happens a lot quicker than 3mins`
`13:36.15`	`JT`	`but i'm not exactly sure going by memory`
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`13:36.49`	`florz`	`JT: Ahh, so Uk0 stays up, but S0 "stops", so to speak?`
`13:37.08`	`JT`	`i haven't checked the U bus`
`13:37.14`	`JT`	`who knows if that goes down too or not`
`13:38.18`	`florz`	`Well, doesn't really matter for me anyway, I guess, I was just wondering whether the training of the echo canceller and the like upon connecting Uk0 doesn't take a little too long for it to be reasonably torn down every few minutes.`
`13:38.41`	`JT`	`Uk0?`
`13:38.58`	`TaiSHi`	`Could anyone suggest me a good codec for internal use? (LAN, looking for a good quality codec)`
`13:39.05`	`JT`	`TaiSHi: g.711`
`13:39.21`	`TaiSHi`	`Where can I get it?`
`13:39.29`	`JT`	`it's standard`
`13:39.31`	`TaiSHi`	`(It's from Digium, right?)`
`13:39.34`	`TaiSHi`	`And the sounds?`
`13:39.38`	`JT`	`it's built in`
`13:39.42`	`TaiSHi`	`We're recording invoice menues`
`13:39.44`	`florz`	`Erm, Uk0 is DTAG specific, eh? Like "U interface on copper (_K_upfer) wire" or something ...`
`13:40.00`	`JT`	`dtag?`
`13:40.05`	`vlt`	`the1_: You can forward the nat routers sip port (5060) to the asterisk box.`
`13:40.06`	`florz`	`JT: Deutsche Telekom AG`
`13:40.24`	`JT`	`ok`
`13:40.37`	`TaiSHi`	`JT: How can we convert our recorded audio to g.711 ?`
`13:40.38`	`florz`	`JT: Anyway, I meant the U interface, yep.`
`13:40.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TaiSHi: "man sox"`
`13:41.13`	`TaiSHi`	`[TK]D-Fender: omw, thanks`
`13:42.31`	`the1_`	`vlt: what about traffic going to my ip fone?`
`13:43.11`	`vlt`	`the1_: It registers at asterisk and tries to keep the udp port alive to be reachable.`
`13:43.47`	`the1_`	`will it work even if i have multiple ip fones at the other side?`
`13:44.11`	`the1_`	`so i dont need a STUN server huh`
`13:45.02`	`JT`	`vlt: he'll probably need to port forward the ranges of RTP ports on the asterisk server side too`
`13:45.04`	`vlt`	`the1_: What's the "other side". STUN shouldn't be needed if you can forward the port(s) to asterisk`
`13:45.29`	`JT`	`stun is only needed for stupid sip servers`
`13:45.36`	`vlt`	`the1_: Yes, JT is right. Port_s_.`
`13:45.48`	`JT`	`asterisk with nat=yes and other settings needed for nat is smarter than that`
`13:45.57`	`the1_`	`vlt: otherside = the network with the ip fones`
`13:46.07`	`vlt`	`the1_: You can define a narrow range in ports.conf and forward them to *`
`13:46.09`	`the1_`	`i plan to have several ip fones theres`
`13:46.22`	`vlt`	`the1_: No problem.`
`13:46.47`	`JT`	`the1_: on the gateway in front of asterisk, forward UDP 5060 and UDP 10000-20000 or whatever is specified in rtp.conf, to the ast box`
`13:47.20`	`the1_`	`ok. that is clear to me now.`
`13:47.31`	`the1_`	`what about on the gateway front of my ip fones?`
`13:47.44`	`JT`	`unless it's rubbish, you don't need to touch it`
`13:47.53`	`JT`	`good nat devices will just work`
`13:47.58`	`whocares123`	`Can anyone tell me why the complete callerid isn't coming through in asterisk`
`13:48.35`	`the1_`	`ok. those are helpful info.`
`13:48.37`	`vlt`	`the1_: They will recognize who "ordered" the incoming udp packets.`
`13:48.49`	`vlt`	`(the good nat devices)`
`13:48.53`	`the1_`	`thanks a lot.`
`13:49.26`	`JT`	`as long as the sip device registers regularly, a path will be clear for incoming calls`
`13:49.26`	`the1_`	`good nat devices? iptables is it a good nat device?`
`13:49.26`	`JT`	`yes`
`13:49.26`	`JT`	`it's very good`
`13:49.34`	`JT`	`usually rubbish is some embedded devices`
`13:49.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`the1_: If you have multiple phones behind a NAT you will need to ensure that EACH of them is running on a seperate SIP signalling port.`
`13:49.54`	`the1_`	`ohhh i have some prolink dsl modem/router at some sites`
`13:50.07`	`JT`	`the1_: you'll need to test`
`13:50.52`	`the1_`	`the sip signalling port is a variable per extension?`
`13:51.10`	`the1_`	`i didnt see that setting at trixbox ui`
`13:51.15`	`JT`	`argh trixbox`
`13:51.24`	`tzafrir`	`hmmm, can't see the history of files that no longer exist: http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/branches/1.2/zaptel.c?r1=2057&r2=2059 returns an 404 error`
`13:51.28`	`the1_`	`or its somewhere in the * configs`
`13:51.56`	`the1_`	`sorry :)`
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`13:52.25`	`Makenshi`	`Or, run a sip proxy, or use a router that supports stateful sip translation (eg, linux-2.6.20 with nf_nat_sip)`
`13:53.55`	`the1_`	`ohhh.. if this is such a difficult setup, i wanna know what everyone else is doing.`
`13:54.10`	`the1_`	`:) * server on a public ip?`
`13:54.16`	`the1_`	`is that a common setup?`
`13:55.07`	`JT`	`yes`
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`13:55.53`	`the1_`	`might aswell do that same .ha.`
`13:57.56`	`the1_`	`ok. i dont have a trunk yet. i live in another country and i wanna call to the US. ill subscribe to a voip provider like vonage or lingo.com is this possible ?`
`13:57.56`	`the1_`	`i sorry if im asking stupid questions`
`13:58.41`	`florz`	`JT: So, what you saw on the S bus was basically that it stayed statically at one voltage, no level changes whatsoever?`
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`13:59.14`	`whocares123`	`Can anyone tell me why the complete callerid isn't coming through in asterisk? please!`
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`14:04.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`the1_: ...`
`14:04.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~trixbox`
`14:04.26`	`jbot`	`somebody said trixbox was unable to be supported here. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or use the trixbox forums at http://www.trixbox.org/modules/newbb/`
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`14:06.09`	`whocares123`	`I'm getting a call from the uk and i'm in south africa. The callerid is 14 digits long but asteisk only returns the first 12 of them`
`14:06.14`	`whocares123`	`any ideas?`
`14:06.25`	`clive-`	`howzit whocares`
`14:06.35`	`whocares123`	`good good`
`14:06.55`	`the1_`	`Makenshi is nf_nat_sip integrated into the 2.6.20 kernel? or i still need to patch it?`
`14:07.27`	`whocares123`	`clive: do you have any idea on the problem`
`14:08.04`	`Makenshi`	`the1_, it is integrated in the kernel`
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`14:08.23`	`clive-`	`whocares. not really, ....that a hellave long callerid...maybe there is something is extensions.conf that can be set to fix this..but I am not sure, this is a new one on me`
`14:08.32`	`Makenshi`	`CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK_SIP and CONFIG_NF_NAT_SIP`
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`14:09.01`	`soo-hick`	`hello`
`14:09.34`	`the1_`	`thanks.`
`14:11.22`	`whocares123`	`clive : I have a TDM400 card installed that receives the calls. I this the problem is in there. Because if I create a sip user with a 14 digit callerid it works 100% its just calls coming in on the tdm400`
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`14:12.12`	`soo-hick`	`any one know zaptel and asterisk`
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`14:12.16`	`soo-hick`	`?`
`14:12.44`	`soo-hick`	`i have a perblem, that zaptel is connected to a third party`
`14:13.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`whocares123: It the PSTN side that has the probelm, not *.`
`14:13.16`	`soo-hick`	`and they play annoucement some time, i want asterisk to`
`14:13.21`	`clive-`	`sounds like something in the zaptel stuff that drives that tdm card ..maybe`
`14:13.28`	`soo-hick`	`counr that as duration`
`14:14.02`	`soo-hick`	`is it clear to you guys?`
`14:14.02`	`ctaloi`	`hey all - question for ya, I have a Queue setup with a few remote (off Asterisk). When an agent transfers his queue call to another location - Asterisk gets a re-invite from the far end and moves the RTP to the new call - but the original channel (queue slot) is still in use - Anyone know of a way to fix this ?`
`14:14.27`	`whocares123`	`when i put a normal analog phone on the line the callerid comes in correct on the phone. So the callerid is coming in correct. It must be between the TDM and asterisk or in zaptel.`
`14:15.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`soo-hick: Not at all clear.`
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`14:15.16`	`soo-hick`	`ok`
`14:15.41`	`clive-`	`whocares, did you buy the card from connection-telecom`
`14:15.43`	`the1_`	`what is the preference of everyone>? digium, sangoma, or rhino cards?`
`14:16.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: Disable reinvites on your system`
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`14:16.41`	`cpm`	`I have a digium card, I'm happy with it, never heard anything by glowing reports with the sangoma, and if you have a rhino channelbank, the rhino card is a no brainer`
`14:16.45`	`whocares123`	`clive : Nope from an South African company Even Flow.`
`14:16.48`	`soo-hick`	`calls come to asterisk on h323, then pass it to the zaptel to connect to ISDN, some time calls not going through but play message, when the message is palyed asterisk not conting it as connected call, i want asterisk to count these calls as conected`
`14:16.57`	`cpm`	`s/by/but`
`14:17.04`	`ctaloi`	`Fender - I tried with and w/o canreinvite=yes - but it still seems to keep the channel up`
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`14:17.38`	`clive-`	`whocares, I would say if you got it from connection-telecom (cape town) they will help you, the guy there is an aserisk boff, I dont know if even-flow offers suport`
`14:17.40`	`dorphalsig`	`Hello`
`14:17.50`	`the1_`	`cpm, im new to asterisk and voip. i dont wanna make mistakes on buying the right cards.`
`14:18.04`	`the1_`	`:)`
`14:18.13`	`clive-`	`what card o rino make?`
`14:18.15`	`dorphalsig`	`I'm trying to configure a WRT54GP2 with my * box, however I cant seem to get the dialplan straight on the damned ATA`
`14:18.20`	`soo-hick`	`better [TK]D-Fender`
`14:18.32`	`clive-`	`the1 is this for analoguie or digital?`
`14:18.35`	`cpm`	`well, I'm the wrong one to ask then, because my path to voip success is paved with every mistake possible`
`14:18.36`	`dorphalsig`	`I want it to be able to dial anything, and let asterisk decide`
`14:18.44`	`JT`	`florz: when it shuts down, it goes to 0v`
`14:18.47`	`cpm`	`clive-, analog`
`14:18.51`	`dorphalsig`	`can anybody help me out plz?`
`14:18.53`	`cpm`	`T1 card`
`14:19.02`	`JT`	`florz: otherwise it has tristate digital data`
`14:19.06`	`cpm`	`to connect their channel banks`
`14:19.18`	`the1_`	`clive- analog. im even thinking of getting those x100 clones, but i coundnt find those cards here in our country`
`14:19.26`	`clive-`	`only used digium and eicon and sagoma`
`14:19.40`	`clive-`	`the1 where are you?`
`14:19.56`	`soo-hick`	`any ideas on?`
`14:19.58`	`soo-hick`	`calls come to asterisk on h323, then pass it to the zaptel to connect to ISDN, some time calls not going through but play message, when the message is palyed asterisk not conting it as connected call, i want asterisk to count these calls as conected`
`14:20.11`	`florz`	`JT: In particular, that's what happens on those KPN lines after some minutes of inactivity?`
`14:20.14`	`the1_`	`clive- philippines.`
`14:20.23`	`JT`	`florz: i don't know, i'm in australia`
`14:20.39`	`clive-`	`the1 if I wereyou id buy a TDM card. The x100p card is not nearly as good`
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`14:20.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`soo-hick: You basically want to disable "early media"". This is standard telco signalling... this would probably take real programming in Zaptel to do.`
`14:20.55`	`JT`	`the x100p is also no longer made`
`14:21.03`	`clive-`	`JT, hi what you doing in ozz?`
`14:21.03`	`rkioko`	`asterisk 1.2 or 1.4? which is more stable for a production environment`
`14:21.07`	`florz`	`JT: IC - then, that's what happens with lines from, erm, Telstra(?), after some minutes of inactivity? :-)`
`14:21.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`rkioko: For now 1.2`
`14:21.23`	`JT`	`florz: more like 30 seconds`
`14:21.38`	`the1_`	`clive- i guess thats what im gona do.`
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`14:22.12`	`Mahmoud`	`any relations between asterisk and freepbx? i wonder why they put their site in the topic here`
`14:22.15`	`florz`	`JT: Have you ever tried zaphfc (with my patch) on one of those lines?`
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`14:22.22`	`the1_`	`but the cost of a tdm400 card here will make half of my monthly salary`
`14:22.25`	`the1_`	`:)`
`14:22.30`	`JT`	`florz: no`
`14:22.31`	`soo-hick`	`[TK]D-Fender, i see so there is not somthing in asterisk to start counting after x sec of the call regardless is connect messages received or not`
`14:22.35`	`JT`	`my card is no zaphfc capable`
`14:23.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`soo-hick: No, PRI was made for specifically the functions you want to DISABLE. You are asking a very backwards thing.`
`14:23.28`	`soo-hick`	`i see thanks [TK]D-Fender`
`14:23.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`soo-hick: It is possible, but you'll have to make a lot of custom mods to Zaptel & maybe libpri as well to do it.`
`14:23.54`	`florz`	`JT: IC. Well, I think, I'll have a look whether something like this could be causing problems (/could be the problem with those KPN lines) ...`
`14:24.17`	`JT`	`florz: this should be supported by any isdn card that does PTMP`
`14:24.23`	`TaiSHi`	`[TK]D-Fender: Could you poke me to other good doc pages besides asteriskguru, voip-info and asteriskdocs?`
`14:24.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~book`
`14:24.39`	`jbot`	`well, book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`14:25.11`	`florz`	`JT: Yeah, the card certainly shouldn't have any problem with it - but maybe the driver could :-)`
`14:25.45`	`JT`	`heh`
`14:25.54`	`soo-hick`	`ok, what about if a message played the i send disconnect cause 34, it that possible [TK]D-Fender without changing the source code?`
`14:26.15`	`TaiSHi`	`[TK]D-Fender: I got that one too (half book read), I'm pointing more sites to get info for queuetue`
`14:28.17`	`ctaloi`	`[TK]D-Fender: any other thoughts on the queue transfer issue?`
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`14:29.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: Ok, queue calls out, they answer... then whats the problem?`
`14:29.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TaiSHi: It helps if we know what he's expecting exactly...`
`14:30.00`	`mafkees`	`hhmm`
`14:30.13`	`mafkees`	`my totally idle home system segfaults once a day`
`14:30.14`	`ctaloi`	`[TK]D-Fender: Calls comes into a remote queue agent (agent one), the agent transfers the call, asterisk moves the RTP to the new phone, but keeps the queue channel busy - therefore not allowing another call to agent one`
`14:30.20`	`mafkees`	`weird`
`14:30.27`	`clive-`	`who do you guys recommend for toll free usa services?`
`14:30.40`	`ManxPower`	`ctaloi: Are you using calllimit or call-limit?`
`14:30.41`	`mafkees`	`it has nevr done that before`
`14:30.57`	`TaiSHi`	`[TK]D-Fender: He wants to build up a system from scratch, without gui interface`
`14:30.59`	`dorphalsig`	`I'm trying to configure a WRT54GP2 with my * box, however I cant seem to get the dialplan straight on the damned ATA, can anybody helo me out?`
`14:31.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: What do you mean "queue channel" it should keep the AGENT channel busy so that AGENT doesn't get another call...`
`14:31.24`	`TaiSHi`	`I pointed him to TFOT, wich, I think, will cover everything he needs right now`
`14:31.40`	`ctaloi`	`[TK]D-Fender: Correct - But Since agent one has transferred the call, he should be able to receive a second call`
`14:31.56`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: it's a known issue that when an agent transfers a call and is no longer involved in the call, the agent is still considered "busy" by the system`
`14:32.09`	`ctaloi`	`ManxPower: Neither - What are you thinking on this one?`
`14:32.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: Ah, the AGENT transfered... yes... that the SIP transfer issue`
`14:32.40`	`ManxPower`	`ctaloi: Are you running 1.4 or 1.2.14 or earlier?`
`14:32.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: Features.conf transfer clears him up`
`14:33.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: You need to dial your agents with the "t" flag so they can use "#" (or whatever is defined for a transfer in features.conf) to transfer the call. this will free them up.`
`14:34.31`	`anonymouz666`	`what's the problem running mpg123-0.65 with asterisk? mpg123-0.59r does work fine on x64`
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`14:35.16`	`ctaloi`	`ManxPower: It's 1.2-r41069`
`14:35.28`	`redax`	`hi,`
`14:36.05`	`soo-hick`	`if a call is not connected and message played then zaptel send disconnect cause 34, is it that possible without changing the source code?`
`14:36.07`	`ctaloi`	`[TK]D-Fender: These are "remote" agents - So they are using not using the Asterisk transfer function - would ths still work?`
`14:37.57`	`whocares123`	`clive : I tried connection-telecom and evenflow without any luck? Any other ideas`
`14:38.10`	`Mahmoud`	`any free DNS services that provides dynamic SRV DNS records?`
`14:38.42`	`JT`	`if you require dynamic SRV, would you trust a free dns service?`
`14:39.32`	`Mahmoud`	`its just for home pbx`
`14:39.50`	`Mahmoud`	`so yeah, i trust them.. who cares annoying a little guy`
`14:39.58`	`JT`	`why does it need SRV?`
`14:40.20`	`Mahmoud`	`so, SIP clients can get my pbx ip address + port number`
`14:41.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: You can still give them a transfer through DTMF...`
`14:42.03`	`Mahmoud`	`the problem is that no all sip clients allow to statically changing the port number unless SRV tells them`
`14:42.09`	`ctaloi`	`[TK]D-Fender: Trying that now, thanks`
`14:42.18`	`Mahmoud`	`for example. x-lite has no way to change the UDP port number, unless told by SRV records`
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`14:50.24`	`Mahmoud`	`this sucks`
`14:50.57`	`astest`	`Hi, I am looking for a good low cost analog line interface to my asterisk box. I need three or four lines. Can you recommend some clone cards or similar that works with * ?`
`14:52.30`	`masked`	`digium or sagnoma`
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`14:54.10`	`astest`	`ok tnx masked`
`14:55.14`	`astest`	`I am looking to set up a gateway as well so I can call out via a proprietary VOIP box from a vendor that offers free local calls`
`14:55.50`	`astest`	`this box has a analog line interface and the unit on the other side needs to simulate an analog phone. Can theese sangoma cars do that ?`
`14:57.46`	`suma`	`hi, when i call is hangup, the priority flow exits, i want to have my agi running when the call is hungup, how can i do it`
`14:58.30`	`shido6`	`?`
`14:58.41`	`shido6`	`proprietary voip box?`
`14:58.51`	`shido6`	`what interfaces does this proprietary voip box have?`
`14:59.31`	`Mahmoud`	`any idea how much the Digium Wildcard TDM400P card costs?`
`14:59.44`	`shido6`	`74.95`
`15:00.01`	`shido6`	`what modules do you want on it`
`15:01.39`	`shido6`	`Mahmoud ?`
`15:02.04`	`Mahmoud`	`fxs and fxo`
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`15:05.03`	`astest`	`<shido6> the proprietary VOIP box is delivered as part of a bundle from the provider. It has an analog line interface. It simulates that it is the PBX.`
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`15:05.50`	`shido6`	`Analog line........... FXS or FXO ?`
`15:06.04`	`shido6`	`ok`
`15:06.22`	`shido6`	`224.95`
`15:06.47`	`shido6`	`TDM400P with 1 FXS and 1 FXO module`
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`15:07.35`	`ctaloi`	`[TK]D-Fender: it works man - You rock, thanks!!!`
`15:08.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: And thanks to ManxPower for the remind about the agent lock-up....`
`15:08.03`	`deb_user`	`does * 1.4 handle ${CALLERIDNAME} differently?`
`15:08.06`	`Bobthehunter`	`question.. whats the way to limit inbound and outbound eperately on zap ?`
`15:08.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: I didn't fully interpret your problem the first time.`
`15:08.31`	`deb_user`	`and...is there something I can include in my dialplan to see from the cli how * is setting ${CALLERIDNAME}?`
`15:08.32`	`Bobthehunter`	`callimit but like. .to have max of X on zap for outbound and x for inbound.. WITHOUT using setGROUPS.. cause that deadlocks`
`15:08.36`	`ctaloi`	`[TK]D-Fender: No worries, thanks alot man - i didn't even think of using asterisk for the transfer`
`15:08.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: And glad to be of assistance. This is a nagging problem with queue's, CDR's, and the SIP channel driver.`
`15:08.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ctaloi: You shouldn't HAVE to...`
`15:09.28`	`deb_user`	`and/or ${CALLERIDNUM}?`
`15:09.49`	`deb_user`	`thanks in advance`
`15:10.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: That variable and all of the others like it were DEPRECATED in 1.2 and completely removed in 1.4`
`15:10.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: You shoul dkeep up with the changelogs...`
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`15:13.02`	`deb_user`	`fender: you're right...`
`15:13.09`	`deb_user`	`but its hard when your a one man show`
`15:13.21`	`deb_user`	`that's why I rely on you guys!`
`15:13.22`	`deb_user`	`haha`
`15:13.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`I'm a one man show......`
`15:13.56`	`deb_user`	`fender: and a good one at that`
`15:13.58`	`Qwell[]`	`what KIND of show?`
`15:14.02`	`deb_user`	`but hey, * is about community, right?`
`15:14.31`	`deb_user`	`while your at it, can you point me in the right direction to get the information I need?`
`15:14.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell : "Why do we always come here? I guess we'll never know. It's like a kind of torture .... TO HAVE TO WATCH THE SHOW!"`
`15:14.58`	`Qwell[]`	`umm, okay`
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`15:15.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: Well there's the readme's with each release, the changelog on asterisk.org.... there's THE BOOK, the WIKI.... um .... how much do you NEED? :)`
`15:16.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: "The Muppet Show" should be a required cutural study focus....`
`15:16.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: as a jump-start : "core show function CALLERID"`
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`15:18.18`	`Bobthehunter`	`?`
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`15:23.19`	`deb_user`	`fender: actually, my problem is pretty specific`
`15:23.35`	`deb_user`	`maybe you can help me modify the hoodahek configuration just a tad to be 1.4 compliant`
`15:23.50`	`deb_user`	`and I'll shoot off an email to the maintainer so he updates the documentation and/or code`
`15:24.35`	`deb_user`	`this line in extensions.conf is the problem: exten => _X.,2,agi,hoodahek_dbhandle\|${CALLERIDNAME}\|${CALLERIDNUM}\|${UNIQUEID}`
`15:24.52`	`suma`	`how can i so the billing of a dialled call using agi ?`
`15:25.06`	`suma`	`*how can i do the billing of a dialled call using agi ?`
`15:25.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: ${CALLERID(name)} ---- ${CALLERID(num)`
`15:25.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: ${CALLERID(name)} ---- ${CALLERID(num)}`
`15:25.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`(closing brace missing)`
`15:25.39`	`suma`	`when i hangup the call my agi script is not called`
`15:25.54`	`deb_user`	`but I don't replace the \| with ----, right?`
`15:25.58`	`nasls_lsa`	`I have a USrobotics modem that supports dialing from my computer .. can I use it to connect a PSTN line there ? asterisk supports that ?`
`15:26.13`	`Qwell[]`	`nasls_lsa: no`
`15:26.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: No the ___ were just for your visual seperation`
`15:26.20`	`deb_user`	`that's what I thought`
`15:26.29`	`Qwell[]`	`[TK]D-Fender: non-printable chars next time`
`15:26.30`	`deb_user`	`ok...I'll put a comment up on the voip wiki`
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`15:26.49`	`suma`	`[TK]D-Fender: how can i bill a dialled call using agi?`
`15:26.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`deb_user: insert in place of your variable, and go lookup "asterisk functions" on the WIKI for a primer`
`15:26.51`	`deb_user`	`and I'll let the maintainer know about theses simple changes to make his package 1.4 compliant`
`15:26.52`	`deb_user`	`thanks`
`15:26.52`	`aydiosmio`	`morning gents`
`15:27.04`	`TaiSHi`	`morning diosito`
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`15:27.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: I WANTED him to see them on the assumption that he'd correctly interpret their purpose the first time/`
`15:27.44`	`Qwell[]`	`[TK]D-Fender: Don't bring logic into this`
`15:27.50`	`Qwell[]`	`:p`
`15:27.57`	`aydiosmio`	`can't beat the stupid out of someone`
`15:28.08`	`TaiSHi`	`:O`
`15:28.23`	`TaiSHi`	`I think aydiosmio is somehow spaniard :O`
`15:28.24`	`Qwell[]`	`aydiosmio: I beg to differ`
`15:28.31`	`macTijn`	`win 24`
`15:28.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: Set(y = maybe 1 maybe 2 maybe >10) <- behold the worlds first ILLOGICAL OPERATOR!`
`15:29.00`	`aydiosmio`	`I think TaiSHi is somehow presumptuous`
`15:29.08`	`TaiSHi`	`ay mamita >.<`
`15:29.19`	`mercestes`	`[TK]D-Fender: canreinvite=maybe :D`
`15:29.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: I also beg to differ. Stupid is carried in all sorts of bodily fluids, hence the ancient art of using leeches in edicine...`
`15:29.59`	`aydiosmio`	`alright, maybe you can`
`15:30.03`	`aydiosmio`	`but not on IRC`
`15:30.52`	`coppice`	`don't associate stupid with bodily fluids. exchanging those is my favourite pastime`
`15:30.56`	`aydiosmio`	`I have stupid deficient`
`15:31.02`	`aydiosmio`	`I have stupid deficiency`
`15:31.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mercestes: Thats be an illogical FUNCTION, but a good extension of the concept...`
`15:31.10`	`TaiSHi`	`aydiosmio: Where are you from ? :P`
`15:31.14`	`aydiosmio`	`Florida`
`15:31.28`	`aydiosmio`	`originally.`
`15:31.49`	`TaiSHi`	`Oh`
`15:31.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice: I said its CARRIED in them, not implying that anyone else is infected :)`
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`15:32.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice: For instance : I don't have ulcers... I'm just a CARRIER ;)`
`15:32.53`	`coppice`	`I find most carriers are stupid. especially the cellular ones`
`15:32.59`	`TaiSHi`	`aydiosmio: So you speak spanish :P`
`15:33.14`	`suma`	`anyone help me how can i get the total time after the dial`
`15:33.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice: Yes... they carry ulcers as well...`
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`15:33.36`	`aydiosmio`	`TaiSHi: not fluently, no`
`15:33.40`	`TaiSHi`	`:O`
`15:33.54`	`TaiSHi`	`So`
`15:34.00`	`aydiosmio`	`suma: check the duration field of your cdr`
`15:34.01`	`TaiSHi`	`Say 'ay mamasita' to a girl`
`15:34.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"je suis fluent en deux langues" ;)`
`15:34.13`	`aydiosmio`	`I know that that means tardo`
`15:34.32`	`suma`	`aydiosmio: can i update the time through an agi ?`
`15:34.37`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: comprende spangish?`
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`15:34.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Only as a sub-dialect of Gibberish :)`
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`15:35.34`	`aydiosmio`	`mi pantalones es muy bonita`
`15:35.43`	`aydiosmio`	`to mam es mi perro`
`15:35.49`	`aydiosmio`	`tu mama es mi perro`
`15:35.55`	`TaiSHi`	`aydiosmio: Actually, mamasita means small mom :P`
`15:36.12`	`TaiSHi`	`Ok, you sure aren't spanish :P`
`15:36.15`	`coppice`	`我不識看`
`15:36.16`	`aydiosmio`	`look I can speak english too "Would you like a sandwich, sir?"`
`15:36.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TaiSHi: "litte lady" would probably be more accurate`
`15:36.21`	`TaiSHi`	`It would mean mi 'perra'`
`15:36.31`	`aydiosmio`	`TaiSHi: I know what it means`
`15:36.39`	`aydiosmio`	`I know quit e abit of spanish`
`15:36.43`	`aydiosmio`	`I'm speaking Spanglish`
`15:36.52`	`TaiSHi`	`:P`
`15:36.53`	`suma`	`aydiosmio: i need to update the database when the call ends, without knowing that how can i check the call record in the cdr`
`15:36.57`	`TaiSHi`	`Maybe, little lady...`
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`15:37.31`	`TaiSHi`	`exten => _.,1,Die([TK]D-Fender)`
`15:37.33`	`aydiosmio`	`suma: I'm not sure when the CDR updates, [TK]D-Fender is it after hangup or after the channel dies?`
`15:38.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Depends`
`15:39.44`	`aydiosmio`	`suma: I'm sure there's no problem updating the CDR with an AGI, you need to investigate and see when * writes the record so you can update AFTER that happens`
`15:40.15`	`suma`	`aydiosmio: this is what i have in extensions.conf`
`15:40.16`	`suma`	`exten => 65,1,Dial(IAX2/xxxx)`
`15:40.16`	`suma`	`exten => 65,2,agi,creditdeduct.php`
`15:40.38`	`suma`	`but when the call hangs up it never reaches the priority 2`
`15:40.49`	`Bobthehunter`	`use Deadagi`
`15:40.53`	`Juggie`	`wrong`
`15:41.10`	`Juggie`	`the call will never reach priority 2 because its dead`
`15:41.47`	`suma`	`Juggie: how can i call the agi once the call is over ?`
`15:41.53`	`Juggie`	`now, if the called party hangs up, its possible for asterisk to continue provided you provide the proper flag in Dial() which you have not done`
`15:42.07`	`suma`	`oh`
`15:42.15`	`Juggie`	`but if you want to trap either party hanging up, then you are looking for exetn => h,1,`
`15:42.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`suma : "show application dial"`
`15:42.26`	`Juggie`	`er, exten`
`15:42.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie: No, not EITHER.`
`15:42.30`	`Juggie`	`but you know what i mean`
`15:43.04`	`aydiosmio`	`suma: you need to add the g Option to your Dial() or else * doesn't complete the extension`
`15:43.35`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, true, i allways do a Hangup after my dial so it works out to be either`
`15:43.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: Now why'd you go and just spurt out the answer when I left him the resource to get and and ecourage him to READ instead?`
`15:44.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie: "h" gets called if the callee hangs up. if you want whent he CALLER hangs up, then its the next priority using "g" as your dial option.`
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`15:45.25`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm a nice guy`
`15:45.25`	`Juggie`	`[TK]D-Fender, yeah, i know, but if you do a hangup after your dial, then you can trap both in h`
`15:45.31`	`TaiSHi`	`Evil, aydiosmio, Evil.`
`15:46.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie: Nope... Hangup is an abolute. anything you wanted to do before it you should ahve done....`
`15:46.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie: Doesn't trigger "h"`
`15:46.47`	`Juggie`	`i'm pretty sure it does`
`15:47.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie: Try :)`
`15:47.02`	`Juggie`	`but i dunno anymore.`
`15:47.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:D`
`15:47.09`	`Juggie`	`i'll just go back to my CDR stuff.`
`15:49.43`	`suma`	`Juggie: i have checked the g option, but it is valid only when the destination hangup`
`15:50.01`	`suma`	`when the calling person hangup?`
`15:50.14`	`Juggie`	`its exten => h,....`
`15:50.16`	`Juggie`	`as i said`
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`15:50.45`	`suma`	`Is the DIALSTATUS variable is available when it reaches the h extension ?`
`15:50.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`suma : you are reveresed....`
`15:51.52`	`suma`	`[TK]D-Fender: i did not get you`
`15:52.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`suma : jsut read both and try.`
`15:52.42`	`mercestes`	`or just do both. shrugs Scatterbomb effect.`
`15:54.28`	`aydiosmio`	`colloquially known as CYA`
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`16:09.06`	`nowork`	`hello, anyone tried using Asterisk--primus talkbroadband-MGCP? i googled ,but no info about this`
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`16:09.56`	`duco`	`Hello all`
`16:12.42`	`duco`	`When adding my-custom-field in cdr table, and using the CDR(Set(my-custom-field)=blabla) in the extensions.conf, the CLI shows me that all goes well, but in the cdr table of mysql, the field my-custom-field is empty!!!`
`16:12.57`	`duco`	`I am using asterisk 1.2`
`16:13.24`	`duco`	`Does somebody know why?`
`16:14.32`	`Qwell[]`	`duco: because it doesn't work that way`
`16:14.49`	`Qwell[]`	`You have to add my-custom-field to the mysql cdr module source`
`16:15.59`	`Corydon-w`	`cdr_custom_odbc is coming, though...`
`16:16.19`	`Corydon-w`	`Heisenberg might disagree (or not), though`
`16:16.57`	`Corydon-w`	`Since it's not being observed, it exists only in a strange and undetermined state.`
`16:17.07`	`Corydon-w`	`(i.e. I haven't gotten around to testing it yet)`
`16:17.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Corydon-w: You should get some Heisenberg Compensators then. Just ask Scotty to install them for you.....`
`16:18.02`	`Corydon-w`	`Uh huh`
`16:18.17`	`Corydon-w`	`Dig him up for me, willya?`
`16:18.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Corydon-w: I do hope the reference is not losy on you...`
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`16:18.40`	`Corydon-w`	`[TK]D-Fender: he's a little dead right now`
`16:18.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Corydon-w: So temporal you are!`
`16:19.47`	`duco`	`Qwell[]: So I add it in mysql cdr module source, OK, I what about the same field I added in the mysl cdr table please?`
`16:20.06`	`Qwell[]`	`huh?`
`16:20.09`	`duco`	`in the mysql ...`
`16:20.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Talks does funny Yoda hmmmMMMM?!?!??!`
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`16:23.03`	`duco`	`Qwell[]: I created a db named asteriskdb and a table named cdr in mysql. In this cdr table I added a field named my-custom-field. Do I remove it from there?`
`16:23.20`	`Qwell[]`	`umm`
`16:23.23`	`Qwell[]`	`no`
`16:24.56`	`duco`	`Qwell[]: So all I need is to make a small change in the mysql cdr module source? I understood or no?`
`16:25.23`	`Qwell[]`	`You'll probably have to modify the cdr core also`
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`16:26.43`	`Corydon-w`	`Qwell[]: he shouldn't need to modify the CDR core. The core already supports arbitrary variables`
`16:26.50`	`Qwell[]`	`oh`
`16:26.52`	`Qwell[]`	`well then`
`16:27.20`	`duco`	`Qwell[]: Ok I shall made the modification.`
`16:27.40`	`duco`	`Thank you Qwell[] and Corydon-w`
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`16:39.28`	`mut`	`how do i do a playtones and make it skip to next line in dial plan once tones are done?`
`16:39.52`	`mut`	`using playtones() then wait() after it isn't very exact timing`
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`16:47.35`	`Mpls-Eric`	`Any voipjet users here having trouble placing calls?`
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`16:49.38`	`TaiSHi`	`bleh`
`16:49.42`	`TaiSHi`	`Replace just arrived`
`16:49.44`	`TaiSHi`	`bb all`
`16:49.50`	`TaiSHi`	`See you tomorrow... earlier than today :=`
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`16:52.33`	`kanelbullar`	`Hi guys, does anybody know the protocolvariant to be used with Telemar, in Brazil, inside unicall.conf (MFC/R2)?`
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`16:57.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Question for Digium folks out there : Can the TC400B directly transcode from G.729a to G.723.1 ?`
`16:57.14`	`Qwell[]`	`no`
`16:57.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: Oh well.`
`16:57.29`	`Qwell[]`	`You can use 2 channels to do it though`
`16:57.36`	`Qwell[]`	`"channels"`
`16:57.43`	`Qwell[]`	`whatever we're calling them`
`16:57.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: Yes I understand that, and the figurative load that implies.`
`16:57.57`	`Qwell[]`	`load? nah, it should be pretty minimal`
`16:58.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: I mean on the card.`
`16:58.19`	`Qwell[]`	`oh, yeah`
`16:58.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell[]: Burn it up double and mak * passthough more data.`
`16:58.58`	`Qwell[]`	`as far as asterisk is concerned, that should be cake`
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`17:00.04`	`stack_`	`My boss is looking at getting a Polycom IP 3000 for our asterisk server... I haven't used h.323 before. Isn't it difficult to set up?`
`17:00.13`	`Qwell[]`	`yuck, don't use h323`
`17:00.22`	`Qwell[]`	`it's silly, unless you're forced to`
`17:00.32`	`stack_`	`Qwell[], that's the only thing the IP 3000 speaks`
`17:00.32`	`Strom_M`	`the H stands for Headache`
`17:00.35`	`stack_`	`hehe`
`17:00.54`	`Qwell[]`	`Strom_M: I thought it was "Huh, why's it doing that?"`
`17:01.01`	`Kritter`	`is there a better gui for adminstration staff than AsteriskNOW has?`
`17:01.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: STOP HIM`
`17:01.10`	`Hmmhesays`	`rhythm guitarists piss me off sometimes`
`17:01.19`	`Kritter`	`I keep running into roadblocks.`
`17:01.32`	`stack_`	`[TK]D-Fender: right-o... thanks`
`17:01.33`	`aydiosmio`	`Hmmhesays: ?`
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`17:01.50`	`stack_`	`[TK]D-Fender: my boss is cheap and the 3000 is cheap compared to the 4000, which is SIP`
`17:02.04`	`Qwell[]`	`the 3000 can't do SIP too?`
`17:02.13`	`stack_`	`Qwell[]: not from what I've read... it's H.323 only`
`17:02.17`	`Qwell[]`	`suck`
`17:02.19`	`Qwell[]`	`get the 4000`
`17:02.21`	`stack_`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SoundStation+IP+3000`
`17:02.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: that the VSX 3000?`
`17:02.42`	`stack_`	`[TK]D-Fender: Polycom SoundStation IP 3000`
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`17:03.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: For crying out loud there is an IP 400 referenced on that page. So why the hell get a 3000?`
`17:03.11`	`Strom_M`	`stack_: explain that the difference in time you'll spend configuring H.323 will be more expensive than spending a little more on the SIP version of the phone`
`17:03.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`4000*`
`17:03.29`	`marc7`	`could anybody explain what the deal is with receiving ANI information? I understand ANI is a more reliable form of Caller ID transmitted between carriers for billing purposes, How would we receive that information from our carrier? Would the ANI information be transmitted over Caller ID... or could it be added elsewhere in the SIP headers?`
`17:03.34`	`stack_`	`[TK]D-Fender: my boss can get it much cheaper :P`
`17:03.46`	`Qwell[]`	`stack_: "IRC people said that you are a nub, unless you get the 4000"`
`17:03.50`	`Qwell[]`	`stack_: tell him that`
`17:03.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: And your boss can pay a serious aout of consulting to get it WORKING.`
`17:03.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: How much?`
`17:04.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: and as that page states : "I tested the H.323 version with Asterisk and I was able to get it to work with the OH323 H.323 implementation. Initially I could only call from an Asterisk SIP phone to the IP 3000,. After updating the firmware in the IP 3000 I was able to call into Asterisk but it no longer worked the other way as it had before! This was using asterisk without a Gatekeeper. "`
`17:05.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: Trouble just WAITING for you.`
`17:05.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: You've been warned.`
`17:05.13`	`Strom_M`	`the H stands for Headache`
`17:05.31`	`stack_`	`talking to boss...`
`17:05.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: Oh, and on an econimical / flexibility note I might suggest you get a SoundStation 2W instead and run it on an ATA. Wireless conferencing thats platform portable.`
`17:06.21`	`Qwell[]`	`Where's that?`
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`17:07.32`	`stack_`	`ok... he can get the 3000 for about $300 cheaper, but I told him I didn't want the headache... can anyone suggest a good conference phone... we might just go with just a standard phone with 2-way speaker.`
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`17:10.45`	`bigred`	`my agi script terminates immediately after sending agi commands, and my commands dont get a chance to execute "say number 123", unless i manually call "sleep" in my script. anyone know why?`
`17:12.51`	`stack_`	`Anyone here using the Polycom 430?`
`17:13.15`	`wunderkin`	`unfortunately yes`
`17:13.23`	`stack_`	`wunderkin: not so nice?`
`17:13.37`	`wunderkin`	`apparantly i'm the only one with problems with them so don't listen to me`
`17:13.50`	`stack_`	`wunderkin: ok... fair enough.`
`17:14.24`	`wunderkin`	`i don't know how we can have this many bad phones but the 501s are fine with the same config`
`17:14.49`	`marc7`	`no immediate suggestions on the ANI front, hey? it's this elusive thing that I hear should work and increase our call capture rates, but I have no idea how to integrate that within our asterisk-based product. should it appear as, or replace what our carrier sends in Caller ID?`
`17:15.03`	`stack_`	`wunderkin: yeah, I'm just looking for something with a 2-way speaker phone... thought the 430 might save me a little bit of money`
`17:15.23`	`wunderkin`	`if you dont need poe, depending on your situation, the 501 is better`
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`17:17.32`	`wunderkin`	`off with his head`
`17:17.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`stack_: IP 501 + might be a decent option for you`
`17:18.28`	`stack_`	`i'll let him know... thanks for your help, all`
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`17:23.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"Welcome all to Mr. Myiagy school of hair removal..."`
`17:24.08`	`myiagy`	`:D`
`17:25.20`	`cpm`	`wax on`
`17:25.46`	`myiagy`	`wax off`
`17:25.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin: Sorry, hair is a critical component in the effigy`
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`17:34.22`	`phillipk`	`If I have a legacy PBX with an unused T1 interface, can I connect it to an Asterisk box with a Digium T1 card in it using a T1 crossover cable?`
`17:35.02`	`blitzrage`	`in theory, yes`
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`17:48.03`	`reber`	`what does mean "rtp ports" ?`
`17:48.17`	`Qwell[]`	`reber: the port range defined in rtp.conf`
`17:48.31`	`reber`	`Qwell[], thanks`
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`17:53.46`	`dual-man`	`i'm trying to compile zaptel on debian edge and it's complaining about kernel sources`
`17:54.03`	`dual-man`	`i apt-get installed them but to no avail`
`17:54.06`	`Qwell[]`	`dual-man: install the linux-headers package`
`17:54.25`	`dual-man`	`qwell: i did`
`17:54.39`	`Qwell[]`	`for the exact same kernel you're running?`
`17:54.42`	`dual-man`	`actually i did kernel sources`
`17:54.50`	`dual-man`	`that wont' work?`
`17:55.19`	`Qwell[]`	`no, it isn't configured`
`17:55.58`	`dual-man`	`so apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6-686`
`17:56.26`	`dual-man`	`ok done, thanks`
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`18:03.49`	`etfonhome`	`So, Polycom SIP phones support shared/bridged line appearance, but Asterisk does not. Is that correct?`
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`18:06.47`	`Bobthehunter`	`good source for france/germany dids ?`
`18:06.51`	`Bobthehunter`	`not supertec please ;)`
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`18:10.04`	`briantumor`	`hi!`
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`18:13.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`etfonhome: Yes Polycom supports SLA, as does * 1.4. It is currently buggy and in the midst of a major re-write to be released with 1.4.1`
`18:15.09`	`mut`	`let there be thundersnow!`
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`18:16.30`	`mafkees`	`russel is doing a good job there I think`
`18:16.41`	`mafkees`	`not that I understand what SLA is`
`18:16.43`	`mafkees`	`;)`
`18:20.44`	`bigred`	`does my agi script need to sleep manually in order to give asterisk time to complete the command?`
`18:31.31`	`Nugget`	`no.`
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`18:34.51`	`queuetue`	`How do I DID match a zaptel call? Or does it always go to "s"?`
`18:35.48`	`bkw_`	`on analog?`
`18:35.58`	`queuetue`	`Yes, using a TDM.`
`18:35.58`	`bkw_`	`you can't unless you have distintive ring turned on`
`18:36.02`	`queuetue`	`Ok.`
`18:36.07`	`bkw_`	`its always s,`
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`18:37.09`	`Remowylliams`	`Hello everyone, Am I wrong to want a phone like this http://www.egizmo.com/servlet/the-644/Nokia-E65--dsh-GSM-dsh--Cell/Detail just so I can use it to dial through my asterisk server at home?`
`18:37.31`	`bigred`	`Nugget: are AGI calls asyncronous?`
`18:38.05`	`bkw_`	`no`
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`18:38.39`	`bkw_`	`Remowylliams, no everyone should have one`
`18:38.55`	`Remowylliams`	`bkw_: That's what I thought. :)`
`18:39.31`	`bigred`	`bkw_: do you know why i would have to call sleep so that say number will complete before the call hangs up. if i dont call sleep after a "SAY NUMBER" command, i only hear a split second before it ends`
`18:40.50`	`bkw_`	`bigred, sounds like you found a bug`
`18:40.59`	`bkw_`	`or your AGI is wrong`
`18:41.09`	`bigred`	`bkw_: probably the latter :-)`
`18:41.26`	`bkw_`	`never know`
`18:44.05`	`SwK[Work]`	`say number should block until it completes even via AGI iirc`
`18:47.20`	`phillipk`	`If I'm using analog lines, can I have Asterisk listen on answer for DTMF tones and then route the call based on those tones?`
`18:49.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`phillipk: Yes, in the common world thats called "IVR"....`
`18:49.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~book`
`18:49.07`	`jbot`	`it has been said that book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`18:49.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`phillipk: Time to get reading....`
`18:49.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`NEXT!!@!! (c) BKW`
`18:49.50`	`phillipk`	`I tried setting up an IVR menu, but the PBX is sending the tones too quickly, I think.`
`18:50.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`phillipk: You can't fix OTHER PEOPLE's problems you know....`
`18:50.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`phillipk: On analog zaptel look into "relaxdtmf" on the WIKI`
`18:50.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~wikis`
`18:50.47`	`jbot`	`i guess wikis is http://www.voip-info.org`
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`18:51.10`	`phillipk`	`Will do, thanks.`
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`19:02.58`	`kotique[male]`	`Hello. It seems that asterisk has some kind of limit on number of registrations/active channels coming from a single IP. Is this true ?`
`19:03.57`	`kotique[male]`	`I have 50 peers registered from a single IP and I'm having problems with this, like flapping reachability, ignored packets, etc :/`
`19:04.01`	`mercestes`	`kotique[male]: Yea, it's based on th enumber of available sip channels`
`19:04.18`	`kotique[male]`	`is this configurable ?`
`19:04.26`	`mercestes`	`the 25,000 sip channels? no.`
`19:04.44`	`kotique[male]`	`I have 2 asterisks running on a single server :) One registers to another :)`
`19:06.27`	`queuetue`	`Can macros be used in sip.conf? I have a number of extensions that are going to be identical, except for user and password...`
`19:06.47`	`mercestes`	`kotique[male]: then get two servers`
`19:06.53`	`kotique[male]`	`for example, frequently, I'm seeing this: "[Mar 1 10:01:38] WARNING[31185] chan_sip.c: Got 200 OK on REGISTER that isn't a register". Can someone explain whats wrong ? :)`
`19:07.12`	`mercestes`	`your runing two instances of asterisk on the same server with the same IP.`
`19:07.22`	`kotique[male]`	`mercestes, you think both asterisks are using the same shared memory and doing wrong things ?`
`19:07.34`	`sweeper`	`hey, anyone running a * consultancy that can provide on-site service to southern louisiana and texas, plz send me your email, we've got an RFP that should be done by the end of the week`
`19:07.37`	`kotique[male]`	`hey, comeon. they're bound to different ips`
`19:10.22`	`Juggie`	`sounds to me like your not going to win it`
`19:10.25`	`Juggie`	`if your only thinking about it now`
`19:10.51`	`sweeper`	`Juggie: I mean, we're issuing the rfp`
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`19:11.13`	`Juggie`	`wel thats different :)`
`19:11.21`	`Juggie`	`post it to one of the mailing lists`
`19:11.26`	`Juggie`	`i think theres a business or consulting list`
`19:15.01`	`docelmo`	`Anyone in here have any experience with t38modem? I know this isnt that room but just thought I would ask I have a quick question about initial configurations`
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`19:21.48`	`gmiah`	`Hello, I'm looking for recommendations on an ISDN simulator (channelized E1). I have a modest budget of $1000`
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`19:22.42`	`Strom_M`	`how about a single-span T1/E1 card ($600) in a commodity PC ($250) running Asterisk? :)`
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`19:34.25`	`aydiosmio`	`KEYPADHASH() -- ah neat`
`19:35.53`	`aydiosmio`	`I did this manually in one of my AGIs`
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`19:37.27`	`dual-man`	`just installed kde into debian etch, i try startx and X: cannot stat /etc/x11/x no such file or directory and everything is there`
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`19:38.16`	`bkruse`	`dual-man: permission issue?`
`19:38.32`	`dual-man`	`everyone has full 777`
`19:38.38`	`bkruse`	`thats not safe, but ok`
`19:38.40`	`bkruse`	`not su re`
`19:38.49`	`bkruse`	`dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh`
`19:39.04`	`bkruse`	`^_^`
`19:40.05`	`dual-man`	`yeah maybe if i would install xserver it would actually work`
`19:40.06`	`dual-man`	`sorry`
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`19:52.18`	`RoyK`	`oh my gods..... the americans are here again http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page`
`19:52.43`	`kotique[male]`	`RoyK, �� ?`
`19:53.01`	`RoyK`	`hvað?`
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`20:12.05`	`Mpls-Eric`	`Any ideas why this doesn't work, version 1.2.15 - exten => s,n,Set(CALLERID(name) = "${name_custom}")`
`20:12.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mpls-Eric: Perhaps you could show us the CLI output of its execution....`
`20:13.05`	`queuetue`	`My voicemail notifications aren't begin sent ... other than putting an email address on the voicemail line, is there something else I need to do to activate email notification?`
`20:13.20`	`Mpls-Eric`	`I've tried both with and without quotes. Seems I need to go back to the application SetCIDName...`
`20:13.24`	`queuetue`	`(mail logs show no activity, so it's not just failing, it's not be being sent)`
`20:13.34`	`Mpls-Eric`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:14.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mpls-Eric: No quotes, and no extra whitespace.`
`20:14.23`	`ManxPower`	`queuetue: you need to configure the mail server on that system`
`20:15.28`	`Mpls-Eric`	`Ah, IRC Rocks! Thanks TKD-Fender!`
`20:16.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mpls-Eric: np`
`20:18.39`	`Mpls-Eric`	`I've just rewrote 12 AGI applications from an asterisk system last upgraded in November 2004, all in the dialplan with a mix of .ael and extensions.conf using the mysql command. 2600 lines... Last problem just resolved! Thanks again [TD]D-Fender!!!!`
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`20:19.08`	`Mpls-Eric`	`Ah yet another typo... If only I could type`
`20:19.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mpls-Eric: AEL = ick.... means well.. but ICK. AGI forgivable for the fact of SB integrations,etc`
`20:20.20`	`Crescendo_`	`...it sucks to be named Eric. :/`
`20:20.23`	`Mpls-Eric`	`Mostly .conf but one context in ael... Has lots of loops`
`20:20.33`	`Crescendo_`	`I've been alerted no less than four times in the past few minutes. ;P`
`20:23.47`	`queuetue`	`ManxPower: Obviously, thanks for that. :)`
`20:24.08`	`queuetue`	`Is there any way to increase the volume of voicemail messages?`
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`20:29.17`	`Mahmoud`	`hmmmm`
`20:29.37`	`Mahmoud`	`shouldn't the SIP client accept codecs based on their order in sip.conf ?`
`20:29.48`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: that is not how it works`
`20:29.53`	`kotique[male]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:29.53`	`kotique[male]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:29.54`	`kotique[male]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:29.59`	`kotique[male]`	`how do I stop this ?:)`
`20:30.11`	`Mahmoud`	`ManxPower, so the pbx sends all available ones and the client picks whatever it likes most?`
`20:30.21`	`ManxPower`	`kotique[male]: remove the mailbox= line from sip.conf for that device`
`20:30.58`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: I have no idea, but I know it is not based on the order in sip.conf. I never allow more than 1 codec, so it has never been an issue for me.`
`20:31.42`	`Mahmoud`	`is there any way to tell clients reaching me from the internet to use gsm, and my internal clients to use ulaw?`
`20:31.49`	`Mahmoud`	`based on the IP address`
`20:32.06`	`Mahmoud`	`if the ip is my local ip, then advertise ulaw as a supported codec, else advertise gsm`
`20:33.08`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: why not just create two different entries in sip.conf.`
`20:33.30`	`Mahmoud`	`allow=ulaw <new line> allow=gsm ?`
`20:33.50`	`ManxPower`	`each of your clients would have an entry, disallow=all allow=ulaw for the local clients, for the guest section of sip.conf disallow=all and allow=gsm`
`20:34.07`	`Mahmoud`	`my clients? do you mean users?`
`20:34.08`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk will traanscode btween the two codecs`
`20:34.18`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: I mean telephone like devices, whatever they may be`
`20:34.30`	`Kritter`	`now what does this mean: Unable to create channel of type '' (cause 66 - Channel not implemented)`
`20:34.40`	`ManxPower`	`Kritter: that means you have a typoe`
`20:34.43`	`Mahmoud`	`they are sip software clients`
`20:34.48`	`ManxPower`	`since there is no channel type of "`
`20:35.14`	`Mahmoud`	`ManxPower, i have sections for each user. are you saying that for local users i should be allowing "ulaw" and remote users "gsm" ?`
`20:35.25`	`Kritter`	`well I suppose my problem is then that I don't know what the line should say.`
`20:35.40`	`ManxPower`	`Kritter: What are you trying to do?`
`20:35.55`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: correct`
`20:36.13`	`ManxPower`	`Kritter: paste the line that is causing that message. IT would be a Dial line.`
`20:36.21`	`Kritter`	`exten = _3XXX,1,Macro(trunkdial,${office_trunk}/${EXTEN:1})`
`20:36.28`	`Mahmoud`	`ManxPower, yeah that's easy, but the problem is that users are mobile. sometimes they are in my LAN, and other times via the WAN`
`20:36.31`	`ManxPower`	`Kritter: The line would be a Dial line.`
`20:36.46`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: then make them all use GSM.`
`20:36.52`	`Kritter`	`that's the only line I'm changing.`
`20:36.59`	`kotique[male]`	`ManxPower, is it possible to do something with this on client side ? I have 2 asterisks talking one to each other. And the second doesn't like these "Notifies"`
`20:37.10`	`Mahmoud`	`ManxPower, local users have fast connection and it's better to use ulaw, better quality than gsm`
`20:37.11`	`ManxPower`	`Kritter: I suspect that office_trunk is not defined anywhere.`
`20:37.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Kritter: That Macro line jumps somewhere else to do its dial... you should know this... go find the macro context...`
`20:37.32`	`Mahmoud`	`ManxPower, so there's no way to assign codec based on source ip address or interface`
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`20:37.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Kritter: Small obvious hit - [macro-trunkdial]`
`20:37.52`	`ManxPower`	`kotique[male]: no. you have to remove the mailbox= line from the sip.conf or iax.conf sections for the two ends`
`20:37.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`hint*`
`20:38.09`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: you could use permit= and deny=, but I've never actually done that.`
`20:38.27`	`kotique[male]`	`okay, thank you`
`20:38.28`	`Mahmoud`	`ManxPower, i'll read about that.. thanks`
`20:38.59`	`ManxPower`	`kotique[male]: since asterisk does not support mailbox notifications that line is not doing anything except for causing problems.`
`20:39.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin: Anything new, or just perpetually vexed?`
`20:40.49`	`wunderkin`	`[TK]D-Fender, well, no... i've been trying to get certified, but it seems like their group (1 person) is gone or something, i left a message as soon as they opened yesterday, and tried to call several times today with no answer, just tired of dealing with the crap really`
`20:41.11`	`kotique[male]`	`okay, but what the.. ?:) if, say, one big ISP installs Asterisk with mailbox=blah line and I, the small client, try to connect to it.. it means I'll be getting such things and will not be able to turn them off ? That's not good ;)`
`20:41.57`	`kotique[male]`	`Is notify mechanism used for smth else other than voicemail indication ?`
`20:42.02`	`ManxPower`	`kotique[male]: That is life.`
`20:42.22`	`wunderkin`	`i selected the option for operator to transfer me to that dept, i get forwarded to austin, they know nothing there and only have contact info for people in tx... the other operator is in ca... stupid`
`20:42.22`	`ManxPower`	`kotique[male]: I'm sure it is, but nothing that asterisk supports`
`20:43.05`	`ManxPower`	`kotique[male]: I believe if you stop running in debug mode you will stop seeing that message.`
`20:45.23`	`wunderkin`	`everything i've seen on their website says you have to be a reseller to get certified, so that is why i am trying to call them, because i or someone is missing something somewhere`
`20:45.30`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin: why are you trying to become certified.`
`20:45.50`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin: so you or your employer is a polycom reseller/`
`20:45.58`	`wunderkin`	`so i can f'n talk to polycom directly about my problems, i can't get a satisfactory response out of the reseller anymore, i can't ever contact them`
`20:46.02`	`wunderkin`	`no`
`20:46.11`	`ManxPower`	`Then you won't get certified.`
`20:46.21`	`wunderkin`	`i'm subcontracting for someone that could be but it is too much for him to do`
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`20:46.40`	`ManxPower`	`wunderkin: at least you know your problems are unusual.`
`20:47.04`	`wunderkin`	`i thought fender said you could.. :P`
`20:47.21`	`ManxPower`	`Joy! Tornado warning for where I am.`
`20:47.50`	`wunderkin`	`what was that certification stuff at astricon for then, only if you can be a reseller? crappy`
`20:48.11`	`Juggie`	`they are forecasting 20cm of snow for me`
`20:48.21`	`Juggie`	`which is really kind of minor`
`20:48.25`	`kotique[male]`	`ManxPower, true. i'm "just pissed off" because of the text that's in that message - "489 Bad event from xx". Makes me think that next time the other side is gonna make something terrible like start the world war 3 and use the weapon of mass destruction.`
`20:49.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Juggie: Sonw..... CRAPTASTIC.... We're due some today/tomorrow as well...`
`20:49.57`	`Mahmoud`	`where can I get video codecs for asterisk?`
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`20:51.08`	`ManxPower`	`Mahmoud: you don't`
`20:51.43`	`Mahmoud`	`in the soruce directory of asterisk, in docs/video.txt it mentions some video codecs and says that it works wit SIP among few other protocols`
`20:51.57`	`Mahmoud`	`such as the H.263 codec`
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`20:52.18`	`casey`	`does anybody here use queues with a defined agent order?`
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`20:53.09`	`Mahmoud`	`in sip configurations, there is a way to assign DSCP priorities for voice and video packets`
`20:53.26`	`Mahmoud`	`so what's the point of all these options if no video codec is made? :/`
`20:54.52`	`kotique[male]`	`Mahmoud, it just makes the world better, don't you see!`
`20:57.28`	`Mahmoud`	`oh yeah.. i can feel it`
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`20:59.58`	`Mahmoud`	`patent sucks`
`21:00.28`	`mafkees`	`indeed`
`21:00.32`	`mafkees`	`ask Theo`
`21:00.35`	`Mahmoud`	`the reason we don't have video in asterisk is becau$e of patent`
`21:00.37`	`sweeper`	`lol theo`
`21:01.10`	`sweeper`	`only entertaining mailing lists evar are ones with theo :D`
`21:01.28`	`mafkees`	`yeah`
`21:01.41`	`mafkees`	`but his OS is really great`
`21:01.46`	`sweeper`	`ehhh`
`21:01.47`	`mafkees`	`no matter what you think of theo`
`21:02.02`	`sweeper`	`if you're a nutjob, it's worth using`
`21:02.31`	`sweeper`	`doesn't really have any features that aren't security oriented that make it stand out`
`21:02.31`	`mafkees`	`well, it's (as far as I know) the only OS with secure and fast layer7 statefull http loadbalancing`
`21:02.41`	`mafkees`	`ok, F5 has that as well, for a price`
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`21:02.59`	`Mahmoud`	`heh http://sg.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtvmZMOJ9_DB1XqAnRUn7ar44gt.?qid=20070225035615AATc2Z8&show=7#profile-info-jIyp540Naa`
`21:03.15`	`mafkees`	`sweeper: documentation`
`21:03.17`	`Mahmoud`	`the internet is full of crap`
`21:03.34`	`Mahmoud`	`"my husband can't last for more than 3 minutes, because i'm tight" she says`
`21:03.36`	`sweeper`	`Mahmoud: sturgeons law strikes again`
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`21:07.09`	`lullabud`	`does anybody know off-hand if using VLANs in the polycom SoundPoint series tags traffic coming in over the bridged port?`
`21:07.24`	`lullabud`	`seems like it wouldn't...`
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`21:08.03`	`mcab`	`lullabud: nope, it doesn't`
`21:08.36`	`mafkees`	`get a cisco ;)`
`21:09.07`	`Mahmoud`	`cis$co`
`21:09.13`	`Mahmoud`	`ci$co`
`21:09.23`	`mafkees`	`yeah, but they are nice phones`
`21:09.58`	`Mahmoud`	`cisco is nice, they are cheap if you look at it from the long term prespective`
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`21:10.39`	`mafkees`	`yup`
`21:10.45`	`dual-man`	`hello, i'm trying to get an intercom going through my soundcard, but i don't seem to have /dev/dsp file`
`21:10.53`	`dual-man`	`i have a soundblaster live`
`21:10.58`	`mafkees`	`bought a 7960 and a 7905 2 years ago for a total of 200 us $`
`21:11.00`	`dual-man`	`what could be wrong?`
`21:11.00`	`Nugget`	`the cisco hardware is nice. the cisco software is a comprehensive pile of hemorrhoids and aneurysms that you have to pay for the privilege to use.`
`21:11.01`	`aydiosmio`	`silly question I can't easily find the answer to, how do I get the dialed (DID) number on a SIP channel? ${DIALEDPEERNUMBER} ${EXTEN} ?`
`21:11.37`	`mafkees`	`Nugget: get a phone with license. You are free to use the software you download during the first year`
`21:11.40`	`mafkees`	`I mean`
`21:11.50`	`mafkees`	`I am running 8.0 sccp firmware`
`21:12.11`	`mafkees`	`and I'm allowed to even if my contract expires`
`21:12.30`	`mafkees`	`if you buy a G (Global Spare) you are right`
`21:12.31`	`Nugget`	`I have a license.`
`21:12.39`	`mafkees`	`you have to get an additional license for them`
`21:12.47`	`mafkees`	`me too`
`21:12.50`	`Mahmoud`	`patent types: 1) US-bullshit patents 2) legal`
`21:12.50`	`Mahmoud`	`international patents`
`21:12.51`	`Nugget`	`of course. isn't that what I just said.`
`21:12.55`	`Nugget`	`?`
`21:13.05`	`mafkees`	`I really like the 7960`
`21:13.13`	`Nugget`	`It would be insanity to get cisco phones and not have the support agreement and licsening straight.`
`21:13.29`	`Nugget`	`I think the sip firmware is shit, but I tolerate it.`
`21:13.30`	`mafkees`	`indeed`
`21:13.39`	`mafkees`	`I dont use the SIP firmware`
`21:13.44`	`mafkees`	`tried it once`
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`21:13.49`	`Nugget`	`ah, that might explain why you don't hate it. :)`
`21:14.00`	`mafkees`	`and felt like I was playing with a grandstream BT-101`
`21:14.03`	`Nugget`	`I was never able to get skinny working.`
`21:14.17`	`mafkees`	`I used chan_sccp with asterisk 1.2`
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`21:14.24`	`mafkees`	`now I'm using chan_skinny`
`21:14.32`	`mafkees`	`with asterisk-trunk`
`21:15.07`	`casey`	`does anybody here use queues with a defined agent order?`
`21:15.41`	`casey`	`I want to know the best way to set up a queue to ring 4 fixed lines (randomly if possible) then fallback to an on-call cell phone (only if the other 4 aren't answered or are unavailable`
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`21:18.28`	`wunderkin`	`add the cell phone with a penalty?`
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`21:18.51`	`mafkees`	`that's what I would do`
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`21:19.25`	`dual-man`	`can asterisk console use something other that /dev/dsp`
`21:20.00`	`Nugget`	`maybe I should give chan_skinny another shot.`
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`21:20.19`	`Qwell[]`	`Nugget: You should.`
`21:20.26`	`Nugget`	`heh, I knew you'd say that! :)`
`21:20.32`	`Mahmoud`	`any one here that implemented video with asterisk?`
`21:20.34`	`Qwell[]`	`I've been saying it :P`
`21:20.39`	`Mahmoud`	`i treid x-lite and didn't work`
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`21:21.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mahmoud: Then you didn't set your codecs right. Go looking "config sip.conf" on the WIKI, and video in general.`
`21:21.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~wikis`
`21:21.43`	`jbot`	`[wikis] http://www.voip-info.org`
`21:22.36`	`Mahmoud`	`[TK]D-Fender, what codecs? as i know asterisk has no video codecs`
`21:23.54`	`shido6`	`:)`
`21:25.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Mahmoud: * maye not IMPLEMENT them, it doesn't mean that you can't define which ones your ENDPOINT support and let them PASS THROUGH`
`21:25.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`There are no wrong answers, only wrong questions...`
`21:25.45`	`mafkees`	`hhmm, I think x-lite does not do video`
`21:25.58`	`casey`	`wunderkin, mafkees: high penalty lines still ring first on occasion, and penalty is dynamic.`
`21:26.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: You're entitled to your opinion... no matter how wrong it is :)`
`21:26.33`	`casey`	`we have a few guys in the office during the day - the cell phone should only be rung when they're all on the phone, or at night when everyone is logged out.`
`21:26.40`	`wunderkin`	`casey, there might be options as far as checking certain things after jumping out of queue if no one answers or something... it has been awhile..`
`21:26.41`	`mafkees`	`[TK]D-Fender: I just checked my linux install, but no video support there`
`21:26.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: V3 supports video.....`
`21:26.59`	`mafkees`	`ah`
`21:27.01`	`mafkees`	`windows only`
`21:27.04`	`mafkees`	`never mind`
`21:27.12`	`casey`	`basically, I just want it so that once guys sign in in the morning, the cell phone doesn't ring anymore.`
`21:27.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: If you're on linux, why would you even care about X-Lite? Ekiga FTW!`
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`21:27.48`	`mafkees`	`ekiga works ok nowedays ?`
`21:28.05`	`mafkees`	`I tried it in the days it was still named gnomemeeting`
`21:28.18`	`mafkees`	`it had 2 disadvantages: 1) gnome 2) unstable`
`21:28.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mafkees: Well not it has SIP, video, and lots of support.`
`21:28.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`CARPE DIEM!`
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`21:28.57`	`Nugget`	`Carpe Fermentum.`
`21:29.05`	`mafkees`	`it's still gnome :(`
`21:29.50`	`aydiosmio`	`the "h" extension is where the dialplan goes after a caller hangs up, correct?`
`21:30.01`	`aydiosmio`	`my AGI isn't executing when the caller hangs up:(`
`21:31.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BBIAB`
`21:31.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`heading home`
`21:33.13`	`aydiosmio`	`exten => s,n,Dial(SIP/${dialnum}@vitel-outbound,,mghHwWM(record\|${recordid})) exten => s,n,AGI,hangup.agi exten => s,h,AGI,hangup.agi`
`21:33.19`	`aydiosmio`	`does this look right?`
`21:33.46`	`aydiosmio`	`call should go to s,n,AGI if the callee hangs up, s,h,AGI if the caller hangs up, no?`
`21:36.13`	`wunderkin`	`its not s,h... h is the exten`
`21:36.14`	`wunderkin`	`ive never done something like agi,blah either.. ive always done like agi(blah)`
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`21:39.17`	`aydiosmio`	`oh`
`21:39.21`	`aydiosmio`	`thank you!`
`21:39.22`	`aydiosmio`	`haha`
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`21:45.08`	`mafkees`	`wunderkin: agi,bla is oldstyle syntax`
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`21:45.33`	`mafkees`	`no idea if it's still supported`
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`21:55.57`	`iceyp`	`hey guys, I had a system failue of a linux asterisk box, i've now reinstalled on bsd and copied my sip.conf extensions.conf etc over, however I get this error when calling my pabx...`
`21:55.58`	`iceyp`	`translate.c:133 ast_translator_build_path: No translator path from g723 to alaw`
`21:56.09`	`iceyp`	`However i do hear the voice prompts i'm ment to`
`21:56.25`	`iceyp`	`also`
`21:56.25`	`iceyp`	`Mar 2 10:53:11 WARNING[51816]: translate.c:133 ast_translator_build_path: No translator path from unknown to alaw`
`21:58.02`	`bkruse`	`iceyp: what are your endpoints?`
`21:58.02`	`iceyp`	`same as before... connect to a sip server on the other end`
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`21:59.59`	`sweeper`	`what would the syntax be to specify a context to be used on the remote end of an IAX trunk?`
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`22:01.29`	`Qwell[]`	`should be the same as a number, just with @context at the end of the number`
`22:01.46`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: Dial(IAX2/5551212@remote-server/context IIRC`
`22:01.55`	`Qwell[]`	`or not`
`22:02.09`	`sweeper`	`I shall try it, and see what works!`
`22:02.34`	`ManxPower`	`extensions.conf.sample prolly has an example of that`
`22:03.04`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: it is pretty useless as the remote side won't let you access a context outside of the context= line`
`22:03.35`	`sweeper`	`can I specify multiple contexts on that line?`
`22:03.42`	`JT`	`iceyp: you are trying to transcode to g.723, asterisk does not support this`
`22:03.48`	`sweeper`	`or multiple lines with different contexts...`
`22:04.59`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: I believe you can specify multiple [enteries] that differ only by context.`
`22:05.11`	`sweeper`	`erg`
`22:05.23`	`sweeper`	`I guess I'll just make a context with the appropriate logic`
`22:05.45`	`ManxPower`	`hence my "its mostly useless" comment`
`22:06.06`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: You can specify multiple contexts in iax2 though`
`22:06.14`	`Qwell[]`	`ManxPower: it's very useful if you think about it in that regard :)`
`22:06.46`	`progmonkey`	`Anyone know how to use a coma in MYSQL commands in ael?`
`22:08.06`	`progmonkey`	`in the normal extensions.conf \, is parsed into , but in AEL , is parsed into \| and \, does not get parsed`
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`22:11.19`	`bkruse`	`progmonkey: bugs.digium.com`
`22:11.40`	`progmonkey`	`ok, thx`
`22:12.01`	`elriah`	`Hi all. We reached an all-time high today, 840 simultaneous calls through one dual-core, dual-cpu, 4gb ram server.`
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`22:12.28`	`bkruse`	`progmonkey: good find though, i believe thats a bug`
`22:12.31`	`bkruse`	`elriah: nice!`
`22:12.32`	`Qwell[]`	`progmonkey: \\,`
`22:12.48`	`wunderkin`	`\\\\\\\\\\,`
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`22:14.04`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: can you check this out for me? http://pastebin.ca/377647`
`22:14.13`	`aydiosmio`	`anyone else is welcome to take a stab at it`
`22:14.52`	`bkruse`	`aydiosmio: let me looky here,w hats the problem now?`
`22:15.26`	`bkruse`	`ahh perl! :P`
`22:15.27`	`aydiosmio`	`it's desribed in the pastebin`
`22:15.46`	`bkruse`	`aydiosmio: gotcha`
`22:16.52`	`aydiosmio`	`hangup.agi even is set to ignore sighup, I don't get why the script isn't doing its thing`
`22:19.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: "g"`
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`22:22.48`	`progmonkey`	`I tried that Qwell, AEL doesn't seem to do anything with the \`
`22:23.05`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: g is there, it works fine`
`22:23.10`	`aydiosmio`	`for the called party.`
`22:24.53`	`aydiosmio`	`then the caller hangs up, * goes to the h extension where AGI,hangup.agi is and then takes a crap`
`22:25.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: deadagi`
`22:26.01`	`progmonkey`	`Anyone know a good way to do a FileExists in Asterisk 1.4?`
`22:26.20`	`progmonkey`	`for playing a recording`
`22:26.28`	`aydiosmio`	`odd`
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`22:28.14`	`aydiosmio`	`[TK]D-Fender: DeadAGI worked, oddly though shouldn't telling perl to ignore SIGHUP do the same thing?`
`22:28.40`	`aydiosmio`	`I remember there was some debate as to wether is was a problem with AGI`
`22:29.06`	`aydiosmio`	`$SIG{HUP} = "IGNORE"; works outside of the h extension just fine`
`22:29.22`	`aydiosmio`	`as long as it works, I don't really care:)`
`22:29.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`aydiosmio: "You're welcome"`
`22:30.38`	`sweeper`	`arg`
`22:31.13`	`ManxPower`	`progmonkey: you mean the value of PLAYBACKSTATUS is not enough for you?`
`22:31.23`	`sweeper`	`I'm getting "config file error: 0x20" from some of my polycoms, after switching to a unix ftp server, but not on all of them. where would I find docs on this, the admin guide lacks it`
`22:31.43`	`progmonkey`	`ManxPower: Didn't know it existed, thanks`
`22:31.48`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: that means "corrupted config file" I think.`
`22:31.59`	`ManxPower`	`progmonkey: README.variables and "show application playback"`
`22:32.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sweeper: Bad config files, or more likely completely missing files`
`22:32.12`	`sweeper`	`mmmm`
`22:32.21`	`sweeper`	`well, I simply copied the directory`
`22:32.53`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: the admin guide is as good as it gets`
`22:32.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sweeper: Permissions <-`
`22:33.30`	`progmonkey`	`ManxPower: Does it work on READ?`
`22:33.59`	`sweeper`	`oo, good point`
`22:34.49`	`sweeper`	`ManxPower: well, ToC of the guide doesn't show a table of error codes..`
`22:35.00`	`ManxPower`	`progmonkey: why don't you do a "show application read" and find out?`
`22:35.29`	`progmonkey`	`ManxPower: It doesn't say, that's why I asked.`
`22:35.52`	`ManxPower`	`The docs from "show application" are correct. If it doesn't say, then it doesn't support it.`
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`22:38.55`	`sweeper`	`fucking hell`
`22:39.03`	`sweeper`	`you'd think SOMEONE would have a table of error codes`
`22:39.53`	`Mahmoud`	`nice nick`
`22:40.09`	`Mahmoud`	`TheSweeper`
`22:40.57`	`ManxPower`	`sweeper: I don't think the error codes are documented anywhere`
`22:40.58`	`Mahmoud`	`i'm about purchasing a sip software client. is there anything better than eyebeam? something with voice + video`
`22:41.03`	`JT`	`i can't see the "The"`
`22:41.17`	`aydiosmio`	`thanks again [TK]D-Fender`
`22:41.35`	`sweeper`	`ManxPower: :/`
`22:42.44`	`sweeper`	`ohoho`
`22:42.53`	`sweeper`	`apparently, 0x20 = no filez`
`22:43.38`	`wunderkin`	`yeah it helps to watch the log`
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`22:46.48`	`dual-man`	`i an trying to set up intercom using chan.oss but i don't have /dev/dsp, i am trying with soundcard, is there any way past this?`
`22:47.44`	`dual-man`	`anyone??`
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`22:48.22`	`JT`	`make sure you have /dev/dsp`
`22:48.38`	`dual-man`	`jt: what do i do if it's not there?`
`22:48.57`	`JT`	`setup your sound`
`22:49.49`	`dual-man`	`will it be there automatically if my soundcard is installed?`
`22:50.10`	`JT`	`depends on distro i guess`
`22:50.19`	`JT`	`check the documentation for your distro`
`22:50.43`	`ManxPower`	`dual-man: your issue is not an Asterisk issue, it is a Linux issue.`
`22:52.40`	`e-milio`	`Hello all. One quick question. Is 1.4 ready for productin enviroments?`
`22:53.02`	`ManxPower`	`e-milio: I would not use it on any of the Asterisk production servers that I manage.`
`22:53.44`	`e-milio`	`ManxPower: Any specific reason or just to know at this point?`
`22:53.56`	`e-milio`	`*** or just to soon to know`
`22:54.03`	`ManxPower`	`e-milio: too many things are broken that are fixed in CVS`
`22:54.29`	`e-milio`	`ManxPower: Thanks.`
`22:55.14`	`ManxPower`	`wait at least for 1.4.1`
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`22:56.22`	`iceyp`	`JT you still there?`
`22:56.31`	`iceyp`	`sorry had to rebuild a raid 1 array which failed`
`22:56.50`	`JT`	`nice`
`22:57.07`	`vlt\|home`	`Hello. Can I generate a dial tone in a better way than Background(some-audio-file)?`
`22:57.07`	`iceyp`	`About the G723`
`22:57.34`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk does not support G723 in anyway that is useful to most people`
`22:57.43`	`ManxPower`	`vlt\|home: "show application like DISA"`
`22:57.53`	`JT`	`iceyp: asterisk only does g.723 passthrough`
`22:57.55`	`ManxPower`	`sorry "show application DISA"`
`22:57.57`	`iceyp`	`I'm not using G723 tho, my allow is allow=alaw only`
`22:58.11`	`JT`	`well maybe the other side is requesting g.723`
`22:58.14`	`ManxPower`	`iceyp: what is your disallow=`
`22:58.20`	`iceyp`	`disallow=all`
`22:58.28`	`ManxPower`	`iceyp: in [general]`
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`22:59.37`	`iceyp`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/377695`
`22:59.54`	`vlt\|home`	`ManxPower: Thank you.`
`23:00.02`	`sweeper`	`ohoho`
`23:00.06`	`sweeper`	`fuck you polycom`
`23:00.08`	`sweeper`	`fuck you`
`23:00.24`	`sweeper`	`admin guide says files are not case-sensitive`
`23:00.30`	`sweeper`	`*filenames`
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`23:00.46`	`ManxPower`	`it lied`
`23:00.47`	`wunderkin`	`... unix is`
`23:00.54`	`wunderkin`	`yeah`
`23:01.11`	`iceyp`	`JT you see my pastebin?`
`23:01.24`	`JT`	`lots of errors`
`23:01.38`	`iceyp`	`yeh`
`23:01.42`	`iceyp`	`all to do with 723`
`23:01.59`	`iceyp`	`maybe my audio files were recorded with 723? though i used gsm for them`
`23:02.24`	`JT`	`i don't think you read through them`
`23:02.30`	`JT`	`they're not all g.723 errors`
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`23:02.52`	`iceyp`	`ahhh g729!`
`23:03.12`	`sweeper`	`man, that really pisses me off....`
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`23:03.18`	`JT`	`g729 to gsm, then lots of g723 to alaw, then unknown to alaw`
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`23:03.35`	`JT`	`do a sip debug and see what's actually being specified in the sdp`
`23:03.46`	`iceyp`	`i disabled g729 and it works now`
`23:04.02`	`ManxPower`	`iceyp: I thought you said you had only disallow=all and allow=alaw.`
`23:04.38`	`iceyp`	`ManxPower i put it in the pastebin`
`23:04.44`	`iceyp`	`the general has allow g729`
`23:04.49`	`JT`	`...`
`23:04.55`	`JT`	`with no g729 codec`
`23:05.01`	`JT`	`]next time paste sip.conf`
`23:05.03`	`JT`	`:)`
`23:05.10`	`iceyp`	`yeh i had one with debian now to get it working with bsd`
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`23:05.30`	`dotSlashW`	`hi, I need some help getting my fxs port extension to work with call waiting`
`23:05.53`	`dotSlashW`	`I tryied many things, but no luck at all`
`23:06.05`	`ManxPower`	`dotSlashW: enable call waiting and threeway calling BEFRE the channel => line in zapata.conf`
`23:06.14`	`JT`	`~wglwat`
`23:06.16`	`jbot`	`methinks wglwat is well, good luck with all that`
`23:06.34`	`JT`	`i don't know if you can get g.729 for bsd`
`23:06.43`	`vlt\|home`	`ManxPower: Can I chose a different national dial tone somewhere? (Sounds very U S and A now.)`
`23:07.11`	`dotSlashW`	`ManxPower I'll do that right now, let you know how it goes, thanks`
`23:07.33`	`JT`	`vlt\|home: change your tonezone`
`23:08.46`	`EmleyMoor`	`Is it possible to retrieve the caller ID of the last call received on a given phone?`
`23:08.59`	`EmleyMoor`	`(and make use of the number in the dialplan)`
`23:10.09`	`vlt\|home`	`JT: Found a match for "tonezone" in rpt.conf. That one?`
`23:10.43`	`JT`	`no.`
`23:11.03`	`JT`	`are you running a 2 way radio interface?`
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`23:11.15`	`dotSlashW`	`ManxPower: I've threewaycalling=yes and callwaiting=yes in zapata.conf, below that lines I've #include zapata-auto.conf, which is the file that contains the lines channel => line`
`23:11.23`	`dotSlashW`	`i think that's ok, right ?`
`23:11.36`	`vlt\|home`	`JT: not really ;-) Set(foo=${CHANNEL(tonezone... <== That one?`
`23:12.09`	`JT`	`vlt\|home: what is giving the indications you want to change, first of all?`
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`23:16.30`	`ryanca`	`When someone calls in to my DID (IAX2) it doesn't ring on the calling side even if I Wait() before soing an Answer(). Is there any way to make sure it rings on the PSTN?`
`23:17.01`	`dotSlashW`	`manxpower ?`
`23:17.07`	`vlt\|home`	`JT: maybe it rather should be "Set(CHANNEL(tonezone)=de)" but seems to be available only from v1.4 ...`
`23:17.16`	`JT`	`vlt\|home: NO`
`23:17.25`	`JT`	`vlt\|home: no tell me what is providing the indications`
`23:17.30`	`JT`	`that you want to change`
`23:20.55`	`dotSlashW`	`can anyone help me configuring call waiting on a zaptel fxs port ? can't get it to work, tryied everything`
`23:22.57`	`iceyp`	`why does mpg123 run 99% cpu... what can i use instead?`
`23:23.54`	`JT`	`vlt\|home: it'd make it a lot easier if you actually let me know what indications you want to change`
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`23:28.57`	`type0`	`does sun still make laptops?`
`23:29.04`	`Qwell[]`	`did last I checked`
`23:29.08`	`type0`	`i remember there being sparcbooks.. but I havent seen much lately`
`23:29.17`	`type0`	`I have a ultra20m2 on its way right now`
`23:29.20`	`Qwell[]`	`that was like 2-3 years ago though`
`23:29.24`	`type0`	`see how that beech works out`
`23:29.28`	`orlock`	`heh, i have an IPC laptop that ran solaris`
`23:29.35`	`orlock`	`but IPC is the brand.. its a 486dx2 66`
`23:29.50`	`type0`	`solaris 10 is nice, but im more concerned with their hardware performance`
`23:30.15`	`type0`	`i need something that's fast, portable, and I can beat into the ground`
`23:30.31`	`Qwell[]`	`type0: OLPC`
`23:30.32`	`Qwell[]`	`heh`
`23:30.37`	`orlock`	`toughbook`
`23:30.40`	`JT`	`beat into the ground?`
`23:30.41`	`type0`	`without being one of those stupid rugged laptops you can light on fire and irc from`
`23:30.59`	`JT`	`toughbook or twinhead`
`23:33.02`	`type0`	`twinhead doesnt even list prices..`
`23:33.03`	`type0`	`heh`
`23:33.09`	`fall0ut`	`type0: lenovo!`
`23:33.17`	`JT`	`that's why you need to contact a reseller`
`23:33.56`	`type0`	`i really dig sony`
`23:34.07`	`orlock`	`hmm.. there is no way to get rid of echo on a pure RTP call, is there?`
`23:34.16`	`type0`	`but my vaio is on its last legs.. after the lcd backlight burnt out i got pretty harsh on them`
`23:34.45`	`type0`	`its only like 3 years old.. with moderate use`
`23:35.06`	`type0`	`twinhead has a serial port`
`23:35.08`	`type0`	`yay.`
`23:35.55`	`JT`	`orlock: replace the shit phones at the ends`
`23:35.59`	`type0`	`the amount of serial devices I deal with now is obscene`
`23:36.24`	`JT`	`oh really? my twinhead doesn't have rs-232, maybe a newer model added it`
`23:36.30`	`JT`	`i bought a pcmcia rs-232 card`
`23:37.06`	`type0`	`I've got a PLC up on the mountain.. and the power company who programmed it made is 422 modbus but didnt pin the cable out correctly`
`23:37.16`	`orlock`	`JT: Linksys at one end, Cisco at the other`
`23:37.18`	`type0`	`so we spent like 25,000$ just figuring out what was wrong up there`
`23:37.38`	`JT`	`orlock: try a softphone at each end instead, see if echo goes`
`23:37.59`	`fall0ut`	`where are the twinhead lappies with uxga?`
`23:38.00`	`russellb`	`orlock: The echo is both generated and cancelled at the analog interface, so it is the fault of the phone(s).`
`23:38.17`	`orlock`	`hmm.. cool`
`23:38.23`	`russellb`	`it doesn't happen in the middle ... there is no echoing of bits in a digital stream :)`
`23:38.24`	`orlock`	`argh i am too tired`
`23:38.31`	`orlock`	`my head is filled with cotton wool`
`23:38.48`	`type0`	`would make it decent to sleep on`
`23:39.08`	`fall0ut`	`T60p > twinhead laptops`
`23:39.23`	`type0`	`who makes that?`
`23:39.29`	`fall0ut`	`IBM`
`23:39.36`	`fall0ut`	`or rather Lenovo now`
`23:39.38`	`JT`	`fall0ut: is it strong?`
`23:39.43`	`type0`	`strong like an ox?`
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`23:39.55`	`fall0ut`	`TIS STROOONG`
`23:40.03`	`fall0ut`	`it's hot`
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`23:40.25`	`type0`	`its hot as in hot yo or hot as in hot my hand hurts?`
`23:40.31`	`fall0ut`	`hot yo`
`23:40.40`	`type0`	`word`
`23:40.40`	`type0`	`heh`
`23:41.00`	`type0`	`nope`
`23:41.00`	`JT`	`fall0ut: what's it made out of?`
`23:41.06`	`type0`	`it has an eraser mouse`
`23:41.10`	`fall0ut`	`it has both`
`23:41.10`	`type0`	`how about fuck that`
`23:41.12`	`type0`	`yeah still`
`23:41.14`	`fall0ut`	`eraser and touchpad`
`23:41.14`	`type0`	`those things blow cock`
`23:41.17`	`fall0ut`	`stick > *`
`23:41.22`	`JT`	`a clit you mean`
`23:41.28`	`fall0ut`	`built-in evdo, 1600x1200`
`23:41.31`	`type0`	`they do kinda look like clits`
`23:41.33`	`fall0ut`	`core2duo`
`23:41.35`	`type0`	`pretty rough though`
`23:41.35`	`fall0ut`	`2gb ram`
`23:41.38`	`fall0ut`	`it's teh winz`
`23:42.01`	`type0`	`how much is it though`
`23:42.18`	`fall0ut`	`eh`
`23:42.20`	`fall0ut`	`mine was like 2k`
`23:42.21`	`fall0ut`	`or so`
`23:42.27`	`orlock`	`Hmm, is it just me or is the DNS for nrchc.com.au fucked?`
`23:42.34`	`type0`	`that tablet deal would be kinda cool`
`23:42.47`	`type0`	`not sure how that would work out in the field though`
`23:43.05`	`type0`	`my vaio was frozen solid after 4 hours in the cold`
`23:43.09`	`type0`	`let it thaw, and it was cool`
`23:43.11`	`JT`	`"winz" ...`
`23:44.14`	`type0`	`fingerprint reader`
`23:44.15`	`orlock`	`we are trading in one of our laptops here`
`23:44.17`	`type0`	`with which software?`
`23:44.26`	`orlock`	`its a 2.6Ghz P4, 17", gig of ram, etc.. some HP`
`23:44.51`	`JT`	`the twinheads are made of magnesium alloy, which is a nice feature`
`23:45.11`	`orlock`	`just hope it doesnt have batteries by Sanyo as well`
`23:45.28`	`rkeels`	`Does anyone have some guidance on the use of agents.conf queues.conf and ACD in genneral. I think min is broken.`
`23:45.38`	`orlock`	`magnesium allow doesnt burn though does it?`
`23:46.10`	`dotSlashW`	`would call waiting work on an fxs port (digium tdm400) if properly configured ?`
`23:46.12`	`type0`	`i just read another thing about sanyo batteries on slashdot`
`23:46.17`	`dotSlashW`	`can't get it to work`
`23:46.52`	`dual-man`	`hey everyone, i have a new asterisk installation, with t1 card connected to channel banks, everything works perfectly but when i restart the zap stops working, when i run ztcfg it says there is an error in line one of zaptel`
`23:46.59`	`dual-man`	`and i know there isn't`
`23:47.04`	`JT`	`orlock: sanyo or sony?`
`23:47.11`	`JT`	`i don't know if the alloy would burn`
`23:47.18`	`type0`	`sanyo made the batteries for sony`
`23:47.20`	`JT`	`but you'd need to heat it up to flashpoint even if it did`
`23:47.25`	`JT`	`and that's very hard`
`23:47.28`	`rkeels`	`Does anyone have a working call center on Asterisk 1.4?`
`23:47.38`	`JT`	`considering it's a large solid lump, and the required temperatures are high`
`23:47.48`	`orlock`	`JT: well, it was never a problem for me with magnesium`
`23:47.58`	`JT`	`?`
`23:48.32`	`orlock`	`though its hard to make a "stealthy getaway" if you are lighting some magnesium powder at night`
`23:48.32`	`type0`	`haha`
`23:48.35`	`*** join/#asterisk N9URK (n=icechat5@cpe-075-178-088-168.ec.res.rr.com)`
`23:49.15`	`rkeels`	`ACD help? anyone?`
`23:49.18`	`orlock`	`also, yu loose your night vision pretty fast`
`23:49.21`	`JT`	`orlock: magnesium strips and powder is easy to set alight compared to an unknown alloy of magnesium that is in a solid lump`
`23:49.25`	`N9URK`	`hi all, can anyone give me any ideas on why a sip call is not reinviting? am using *1.2.12. I have both contexts set to canreinvite=yes`
`23:49.29`	`JT`	`solid lumps dissipate heat`
`23:49.39`	`orlock`	`JT: yeah, i guess the heat spreads through it pretty fast`
`23:50.01`	`orlock`	`then again, i used to carry a blowtorch with me all the time...`
`23:50.26`	`JT`	`IF it could burn, you'd probably need to put a large pile of magnesium powder on it, or hold an oxy acetylene to it for quite a while`
`23:51.03`	`orlock`	`i once burnt all the way through a hard drive with an oxy torch`
`23:51.07`	`orlock`	`well, almost all the way`
`23:51.14`	`orlock`	`PCB was the only barrier`
`23:51.25`	`JT`	`nice, good old fibreglass`
`23:51.38`	`orlock`	`used a whole bottle of oxy`
`23:51.47`	`JT`	`... how small was it`
`23:52.17`	`type0`	`i use my butane soldering iron to light cigarettes at work, beat that.`
`23:52.37`	`JT`	`i don't smoke, beat that!`
`23:53.08`	`type0`	`that cannot be beaten.`
`23:53.20`	`orlock`	`JT: small.. not sure of the size, probably about 1 foot high though`
`23:53.20`	`type0`	`you will live longer, i will have sex with more strippers.. it works itself out.`
`23:53.58`	`JT`	`orlock: yeah that is a small bottle, you still must've been doing something wrong to waste that much gas :P`
`23:58.08`	`N9URK`	`noone have any ideas?`
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`23:58.31`	`orlock`	`JT: i was running it pure oxy for a bit`
`23:58.37`	`orlock`	`the bottle started icing up :)`
`23:58.45`	`JT`	`why no acetylene?`
`23:59.04`	`orlock`	`it was actually oxy-propane`
`23:59.18`	`orlock`	`only needed it for silverwork`
`23:59.52`	`JT`	`oh ok`
`23:59.55`	`wunderkin`	`N9URK, if you are using dial options that are looking for dtmf, it wont`

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