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`00:00.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TheSov, lookup "asterisk tips ivr" on the WIKI for a good start`
`00:00.33`	`TheSov`	`ok`
`00:01.03`	`adde`	`could anyone shed som lite on this issue:`
`00:01.04`	`adde`	`pbx:~# patch -pl /root/asterisk-1.4.1/contrib/festival-1.95.diff`
`00:01.04`	`adde`	`patch: **** strip count l is not a number`
`00:02.18`	`*** join/#asterisk Ebola (n=Ebola@host86-143-156-147.range86-143.btcentralplus.com)`
`00:07.29`	`Qwell`	`adde: i, not l`
`00:07.41`	`Qwell`	`erm, -p0 -i`
`00:12.10`	`ParaNoir_`	`can someone tell me how you can make a test call from the CLI?`
`00:12.17`	`*** join/#asterisk dseeb_ (n=dcb@CPE-58-169-152-56.vic.bigpond.net.au)`
`00:12.59`	`ParaNoir_`	`i want to call via a zap channel to test if the config works,.....`
`00:13.02`	`adde`	`qwell p1 i wrote pl`
`00:13.05`	`adde`	`;)`
`00:13.22`	`adde`	`darn fonts :P`
`00:13.31`	`ParaNoir_`	`isn't it patch -p1 <`
`00:13.36`	`ParaNoir_`	`?`
`00:13.46`	`adde`	`yes?`
`00:14.20`	`ParaNoir_`	`yeah it is`
`00:14.42`	`adde`	`i knoe, why?`
`00:14.47`	`ParaNoir_`	`?`
`00:15.00`	`ParaNoir_`	`because you want to apply the patch? :)`
`00:15.11`	`adde`	`yes...`
`00:15.15`	`adde`	`i have`
`00:15.34`	`adde`	`but know 1 out of 3 hunks fail... that i dont know why`
`00:15.52`	`ParaNoir_`	`then you don't have the right patch`
`00:16.05`	`ParaNoir_`	`it looks for a sequence but it isn't there`
`00:16.28`	`ParaNoir_`	`so the file is probably different then the one were the patch is made for`
`00:16.31`	`*** join/#asterisk hphinc (n=michael@c-24-131-43-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net)`
`00:17.26`	`adde`	`hmm... festival version 1.96 patch for 1.95... cant find 1.96 patch.. :(`
`00:18.01`	`ParaNoir_`	`then download festival 1.95 ;)`
`00:20.13`	`*** join/#asterisk korihor (i=humberto@190.75.11.192)`
`00:22.21`	`ParaNoir_`	`but doesn't really anyone know how to make a test call/dial via CLI on Asterisk? is there a possibility to execute dialplan app's from commandline?`
`00:23.22`	`adde`	`para: there is a dial command`
`00:24.02`	`ParaNoir_`	`yeah but it somehow doesn't work :(`
`00:24.08`	`adde`	`i know i have dialed from cli... checking...`
`00:25.05`	`adde`	`hmm... i dialed a SIP extension that was in my sip.conf though not external number�`
`00:25.20`	`ParaNoir_`	`hmmm that should be possible too then...`
`00:25.25`	`ParaNoir_`	`DIal(Zap....`
`00:25.30`	`ParaNoir_`	`but the whole dial cmd doesn't work`
`00:25.46`	`ParaNoir_`	`http://pastebin.ca/399451`
`00:26.33`	`TheSov`	`When u make an IVR exten => s,1,Answer`
`00:26.46`	`TheSov`	`is that s supposed to be the incoming extention?`
`00:26.51`	`adde`	`i have a extension 100 in context internal. so DIAL 100@internal`
`00:27.38`	`ParaNoir_`	`but the command dial from CLI shouldn't work too right?`
`00:28.12`	`adde`	`in cli write: DIAL YOUREXTENSION@YOURCONETEXT`
`00:28.24`	`adde`	`no parentes`
`00:28.35`	`adde`	`( or )`
`00:28.43`	`*** join/#asterisk X-Rob_ (n=Rob@ppp214-210.static.internode.on.net)`
`00:28.48`	`ParaNoir_`	`http://pastebin.ca/399455`
`00:28.51`	`ParaNoir_`	`same result :(`
`00:29.35`	`adde`	`what version?`
`00:30.14`	`*** join/#asterisk sklim (n=shankuo@124.82.59.202)`
`00:30.28`	`ParaNoir_`	`Asterisk 1.2.14-BRIstuffed-0.3.0-PRE-1y-b`
`00:30.56`	`adde`	`hmmm... then i dont know only used 1.4.1`
`00:31.26`	`adde`	`and im a n00b just trying to help as much as i can...`
`00:31.59`	`ParaNoir_`	`yeah i know ;) i appreciate`
`00:32.00`	`*** join/#asterisk DocHolliday (i=RgRabbit@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x0E4F6D6C)`
`00:32.06`	`ParaNoir_`	`but looks this one is old...`
`00:32.26`	`adde`	`why arent you running the latest?`
`00:33.15`	`ParaNoir_`	`:)`
`00:35.06`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ParaNoir_.. weird man.. the "dial" command works fine for me at the CLI.`
`00:35.23`	`adde`	`b11: asterisk version?`
`00:35.23`	`b11d\|bbl`	`dial extension@context -- works.`
`00:35.27`	`b11d\|bbl`	`1.2.14`
`00:35.45`	`ParaNoir_`	`hmmmm`
`00:35.48`	`adde`	`hmm`
`00:35.50`	`b11d\|bbl`	`hmmmm`
`00:35.59`	`adde`	`para_: reinstall :P`
`00:36.03`	`ParaNoir_`	`are those apps defined somewhere in a config?`
`00:36.07`	`ParaNoir_`	`already did :S`
`00:36.26`	`b11d\|bbl`	`umm`
`00:36.29`	`b11d\|bbl`	`do you have app_dial loaded?`
`00:36.34`	`b11d\|bbl`	`in "show modules like dial" ?`
`00:36.35`	`adde`	`thats a built in command`
`00:36.39`	`b11d\|bbl`	`sigh`
`00:36.53`	`adde`	`am i wrong?`
`00:36.56`	`b11d\|bbl`	`yes.`
`00:37.02`	`adde`	`dohhh`
`00:37.02`	`b11d\|bbl`	`actually, I dont know:)`
`00:37.04`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i just assume`
`00:37.06`	`b11d\|bbl`	`because he doesnt have dial`
`00:37.07`	`adde`	`lol`
`00:37.07`	`b11d\|bbl`	`and I do`
`00:37.08`	`jans0n`	`it's built in cmd`
`00:37.10`	`b11d\|bbl`	`and I see "app_dial"`
`00:37.13`	`jans0n`	`what version do you run?`
`00:37.14`	`b11d\|bbl`	`so.. i dunno`
`00:37.26`	`b11d\|bbl`	`im 1.2.14 dunno about these guys`
`00:37.40`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i'd rock .16 but she doesnt compile so well on FreeBSD`
`00:38.00`	`ParaNoir_`	`http://pastebin.ca/399466`
`00:38.03`	`jans0n`	`well, dial is a module but it's included in the source`
`00:38.17`	`b11d\|bbl`	`yeah its loaded`
`00:38.19`	`b11d\|bbl`	`weird man`
`00:39.04`	`adde`	`yes he is a really weird man.. :P`
`00:39.06`	`adde`	`lol`
`00:39.13`	`plasmid`	`anyone know of a VOIP provider that will give me an 1-888, or 1-800 or 1-866 DID# that would WORK on a regular payphone??`
`00:39.16`	`jans0n`	`ParaNoir_: so, what do you get when you write dial in cli?`
`00:39.30`	`ParaNoir_`	`No such command 'dial' (type 'help' for help)`
`00:39.39`	`jans0n`	`ParaNoir_: console dial then`
`00:39.43`	`b11d\|bbl`	`man thats messed`
`00:39.48`	`b11d\|bbl`	`yeah jans0n.. we're already past this :)_`
`00:39.49`	`jans0n`	`The 'dial' command is deprecated and will be removed in a future release.`
`00:39.53`	`ParaNoir_`	`No such command 'console' (type 'help' for help)`
`00:39.53`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ahh`
`00:39.55`	`jans0n`	`ok :)`
`00:40.06`	`b11d\|bbl`	`dial is on its way out the eh`
`00:40.11`	`b11d\|bbl`	`then`
`00:40.16`	`ParaNoir_`	`ahhhh so thats the problem ;)`
`00:40.31`	`ParaNoir_`	`is there a command like dial thats comming in place for it? :D`
`00:40.33`	`b11d\|bbl`	`well we're both running 1.2.14 so it should work eh`
`00:40.38`	`b11d\|bbl`	`except you're running this BRI shit`
`00:40.43`	`ParaNoir_`	`yeah thats the weird thing :P`
`00:40.47`	`ParaNoir_`	`lol`
`00:40.53`	`b11d\|bbl`	`I dont know about that, or what it really does.`
`00:41.00`	`b11d\|bbl`	`to asterisk, that is.`
`00:41.02`	`ParaNoir_`	`it dials a number ;)`
`00:41.33`	`b11d\|bbl`	`what i mean is, does BRIStuff mess with the asterisk code in such a way as to remove your "dial" option.`
`00:41.50`	`b11d\|bbl`	`if BRIstuff dials a number, and you're having problems with "dial" - hmm. :P`
`00:41.59`	`ParaNoir_`	`it should add capabilities to dial via BRI cards ;)`
`00:42.45`	`ParaNoir_`	`so it should be rediculous if they remove it ;)`
`00:42.46`	`*** join/#asterisk intralanman (n=lanman@pool-71-253-253-149.nrflva.east.verizon.net)`
`00:43.00`	`b11d\|bbl`	`it must alter it in some way?`
`00:43.09`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i dunno man.. im rocking 1.2.14 and "dial" is there by default.`
`00:43.16`	`b11d\|bbl`	`im not running BRIStuff, but if you need it, you need it :)`
`00:43.27`	`ParaNoir_`	`damn....`
`00:43.39`	`b11d\|bbl`	`can you reinstall without BRIstuff for a few mins? to test/`
`00:43.40`	`b11d\|bbl`	`?`
`00:43.40`	`ParaNoir_`	`ahh`
`00:43.47`	`ParaNoir_`	`i've got asterisk Asterisk 1.4.1`
`00:43.53`	`b11d\|bbl`	`umm`
`00:44.00`	`b11d\|bbl`	`Asterisk 1.2.14-BRIstuffed-0.3.0-PRE-1y-b`
`00:44.04`	`b11d\|bbl`	`is whats in your log.`
`00:44.10`	`ParaNoir_`	`[root@asterisk1 asterisk]# asterisk -V`
`00:44.11`	`ParaNoir_`	`Asterisk 1.4.1`
`00:44.11`	`b11d\|bbl`	`so you're running 1.4.1 with 1.2.14 BRI stuff?`
`00:44.16`	`b11d\|bbl`	`that MIGHT JUST BE IT.`
`00:44.18`	`ParaNoir_`	`looks like ;)`
`00:44.22`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)`
`00:44.26`	`ParaNoir_`	`how could that work? ;)`
`00:44.36`	`b11d\|bbl`	`no idea! i dont use the BRI stuff`
`00:46.39`	`b11d\|bbl`	`omfg, you live in Holland ParaNoir_??`
`00:46.46`	`ParaNoir_`	`yeah`
`00:46.49`	`ParaNoir_`	`jij ook? ;)`
`00:46.55`	`b11d\|bbl`	`...`
`00:46.58`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i dont speak Dutch`
`00:47.02`	`b11d\|bbl`	`but I love that country so much`
`00:47.03`	`ParaNoir_`	`lol`
`00:47.07`	`b11d\|bbl`	`let me move there and live with you or something`
`00:47.08`	`adde`	`send me some smoke... lol :P`
`00:47.10`	`lokkju_wrk`	`has anyone here successfully done a deal for DIDs with a local CLEC?`
`00:47.11`	`ParaNoir_`	`trade? ;)`
`00:47.15`	`b11d\|bbl`	`adde, lets meet out back in 5 :)`
`00:47.28`	`adde`	`lol`
`00:47.49`	`ParaNoir_`	`whats so special about Holland peeps? :)`
`00:47.53`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i was just going home to fire one up`
`00:47.55`	`adde`	`smoooke`
`00:47.55`	`ParaNoir_`	`The flowers? :P`
`00:48.02`	`b11d\|bbl`	`nah, just a great attitude..`
`00:48.06`	`adde`	`yes they are pretty`
`00:48.10`	`ParaNoir_`	`Thanks`
`00:48.16`	`b11d\|bbl`	`thank you :)`
`00:48.22`	`adde`	`ive actually never been there`
`00:48.33`	`adde`	`but im thinking of a trip to amsterdam`
`00:48.33`	`b11d\|bbl`	`anwyay, if there is one country i'd move to right now, it's Holland.`
`00:48.33`	`ParaNoir_`	`Thanks`
`00:48.43`	`b11d\|bbl`	`althogh the immigration laws are tough as hell`
`00:48.59`	`adde`	`b11 where u from?`
`00:49.01`	`ParaNoir_`	`Yeah, finally it is :)`
`00:49.06`	`b11d\|bbl`	`Canada, but I live in the USA Now.`
`00:49.11`	`ParaNoir_`	`there's not much left of Holland`
`00:49.18`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ParaNoir_. :) let me live there illegally or somoething hahah`
`00:49.32`	`ParaNoir_`	`:P`
`00:49.37`	`TheSov`	`is their a way to reload the conf files from the console?`
`00:49.41`	`b11d\|bbl`	`yeah "reload"`
`00:49.45`	`ParaNoir_`	`you can get quite simple to Holland illegally ;)`
`00:49.46`	`TheSov`	`thanks`
`00:49.49`	`b11d\|bbl`	`np`
`00:49.52`	`adde`	`let me guess: command not found`
`00:49.56`	`b11d\|bbl`	`lol`
`00:49.57`	`ParaNoir_`	`thesov type help`
`00:49.58`	`ParaNoir_`	`lol`
`00:49.58`	`ParaNoir_`	`:P`
`00:50.18`	`b11d\|bbl`	`anyway, great people.. enjoyed my visits there and plan on going back..`
`00:50.28`	`b11d\|bbl`	`really need to learn the language, but everyone is so nice and most know english anyway`
`00:50.32`	`b11d\|bbl`	`at least, the people i've met.`
`00:50.43`	`ParaNoir_`	`hmmmmmm`
`00:50.45`	`ParaNoir_`	`asterisk1*CLI> help`
`00:50.45`	`ParaNoir_`	`No such command 'help' (type 'help' for help)`
`00:50.45`	`ParaNoir_`	`asterisk1*CLI>`
`00:50.56`	`b11d\|bbl`	`yeah Para.. delete your asterisk install.`
`00:51.03`	`ParaNoir_`	`most are nice indeed ;)`
`00:51.04`	`b11d\|bbl`	`install 1.2.14 and your BRIStuff`
`00:51.09`	`ParaNoir_`	`lol`
`00:51.17`	`ParaNoir_`	`its not nice`
`00:51.20`	`adde`	`Install debian - then 1.4`
`00:51.34`	`b11d\|bbl`	`I had a waitress there rush out and try to return my tip money because she thought I forgot it on the table..`
`00:51.35`	`ParaNoir_`	`i've been in the datacenter too long these days ;)`
`00:51.41`	`*** join/#asterisk Mahmoud (n=fake@unaffiliated/mahmoud)`
`00:52.00`	`b11d\|bbl`	`yeah Para, head down to the cafe and get some muffins`
`00:52.24`	`Qwell`	`b11d\|bbl: shh, don't say that word`
`00:52.34`	`b11d\|bbl`	`"the" ?`
`00:52.36`	`file`	`MUFFINS? WHERE`
`00:52.39`	`b11d\|bbl`	`oh no.`
`00:52.40`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)`
`00:52.43`	`adde`	`The magic.. :D`
`00:52.48`	`Qwell`	`~lart b11d\|bbl`
`00:52.51`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:(`
`00:52.59`	`b11d\|bbl`	`I shall know from this day on`
`00:53.05`	`ParaNoir_`	`these? http://www.esle.qc.ca/sectacad/cpa/imagescpa/muffin.jpg :P`
`00:53.14`	`file`	`404 Muffin Not Found`
`00:53.20`	`adde`	`g`
`00:53.34`	`Qwell`	`I really think file has a beep on "muffins"`
`00:53.36`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ok lads, well im going to go home and fire one up and think of Holland..`
`00:53.39`	`adde`	`405 - internal muffin error`
`00:53.41`	`b11d\|bbl`	`you'll be with me in spirit adde..`
`00:53.42`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ttyl lads`
`00:54.03`	`file`	`Qwell: I don't :(`
`00:54.06`	`adde`	`...have a good sleep m8...`
`00:54.08`	`Qwell`	`lies`
`00:54.16`	`Qwell`	`Just like you didn't install Solaris on your laptop :D`
`00:54.18`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i'll be back in a couple hours`
`00:54.22`	`b11d\|bbl`	`just need a break`
`00:54.30`	`nickname`	`:) Have a nice break..`
`00:54.39`	`b11d\|bbl`	`im coming over !!!!`
`00:54.41`	`file`	`I did not.`
`00:54.45`	`Qwell`	`exactly`
`00:54.46`	`nickname`	`lol :D`
`00:54.53`	`Qwell`	`Your secret is safe with me :D`
`00:55.06`	`TheSov`	`can anyone tell me whats wrong with this ivr http://www.pastebin.ca/399484`
`00:55.13`	`TheSov`	`when i call it just hangs up`
`00:56.22`	`b11d\|bbl`	`hmm..`
`00:56.26`	`adde`	`thesoc, does the incoming automaticly get ext 7001`
`00:56.33`	`TheSov`	`yes`
`00:56.33`	`nickname`	`Utrecht`
`00:56.37`	`nickname`	`it's a mess there ;)`
`00:56.40`	`b11d\|bbl`	`really?`
`00:56.40`	`TheSov`	`thats the incoming extention`
`00:56.41`	`nickname`	`lot of fights now...`
`00:56.41`	`b11d\|bbl`	`why`
`00:56.43`	`b11d\|bbl`	`over what`
`00:56.47`	`adde`	`in register => blabla/7001 ?`
`00:56.49`	`b11d\|bbl`	`football I hope`
`00:56.49`	`nickname`	`some guy got shot`
`00:56.50`	`TheSov`	`yes`
`00:56.51`	`b11d\|bbl`	`oh`
`00:57.00`	`nickname`	`by a police officer`
`00:57.06`	`TheSov`	`if i change it to play tt-monkeys or something it works fine`
`00:57.30`	`nickname`	`http://www.nu.nl/news/1006480/14/rss/Politie_houdt_toezicht_in_Ondiep.html`
`00:57.43`	`TheSov`	`well more than just that change, i have to basically remove the entire menu for it start working again`
`00:57.46`	`b11d\|bbl`	`you and your "dutch" language..`
`00:57.50`	`b11d\|bbl`	`I wish I knew it ;)`
`00:57.51`	`nickname`	`:P`
`00:57.55`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ok for real.. gotta go.. ttyl :)`
`00:58.02`	`b11d\|bbl`	`you're awesome nickname, dont ever stop coming here.`
`00:59.03`	`nickname`	`http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_load?lp=nl_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Fnews%2F1006480%2F14%2Frss%2FPolitie_houdt_toezicht_in_Ondiep.html`
`00:59.06`	`nickname`	`;)`
`00:59.37`	`TheSov`	`it would interest u to know that altavista is USgovernment owned`
`00:59.58`	`b11d\|bbl`	`hey, the British Government owns Westinghouse..`
`01:00.02`	`b11d\|bbl`	`that should concern people MORE.`
`01:00.14`	`b11d\|bbl`	`seeing as how Westinghouse is building those 20+ nuclear plants in China right now..`
`01:00.15`	`adde`	`so Afghanistans owns ToraBora`
`01:00.15`	`nickname`	`lol`
`01:00.19`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ok man.. i totally need to leave..`
`01:00.21`	`b11d\|bbl`	`you bastards`
`01:00.25`	`nickname`	`hehehe`
`01:00.29`	`adde`	`G`
`01:00.34`	`nickname`	`Speak to you later man ;)`
`01:00.37`	`b11d\|bbl`	`for sure. :)`
`01:00.40`	`TheSov`	`so can anyone tell me whats wrong with that call plan http://www.pastebin.ca/399484`
`01:00.55`	`nickname`	`what do you want it to do?`
`01:01.14`	`b11d\|bbl`	`TheSov.. put those ,5 and ,10 in (5) and (10)`
`01:01.15`	`TheSov`	`pick the phone play the message test1 and then let me dial extention 1 to ring my phone`
`01:01.22`	`b11d\|bbl`	`without the commas`
`01:01.28`	`b11d\|bbl`	`also, does Test1 exist?`
`01:01.42`	`TheSov`	`yes`
`01:01.52`	`b11d\|bbl`	`in the right spot? is it encoded properly?`
`01:01.52`	`adde`	`"Call my mom and tell her to go do my shopping. then hung up open the door and let my mom in" thats what i want an AGI to do...`
`01:02.12`	`TheSov`	`its here /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/test1.gsm`
`01:02.18`	`b11d\|bbl`	`cool`
`01:02.24`	`b11d\|bbl`	`well put those numbers in () and reload`
`01:02.33`	`b11d\|bbl`	`eg: exten => 7001,3,DigitTimeout(5)`
`01:02.45`	`TheSov`	`nope just hung up on me again`
`01:02.57`	`b11d\|bbl`	`well what does the console say?`
`01:03.00`	`b11d\|bbl`	`how far is it getting along?`
`01:03.26`	`b11d\|bbl`	`if nothing, stop asterisk and reload it with "asterisk -cdv"`
`01:03.45`	`b11d\|bbl`	`or better, "set debug 100" and "set verbose 100"`
`01:03.51`	`b11d\|bbl`	`then try your call again`
`01:03.54`	`TheSov`	`it says , trying, received and then bye`
`01:04.01`	`b11d\|bbl`	`pastebin it`
`01:05.09`	`TheSov`	`http://www.pastebin.ca/399488`
`01:05.31`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i dont want to see any sip debug..`
`01:05.37`	`b11d\|bbl`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:05.40`	`b11d\|bbl`	`retry, repaste :)`
`01:05.54`	`adde`	`b11`
`01:06.01`	`b11d\|bbl`	`oh`
`01:06.02`	`b11d\|bbl`	`pbx_extension_helper: No application 'DigitTimeout' for extension (incomingcalls`
`01:06.04`	`b11d\|bbl`	`theres the issue`
`01:06.25`	`adde`	`b11 i got some code for you`
`01:06.28`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ok..`
`01:06.32`	`TheSov`	`what do i do with that`
`01:06.34`	`b11d\|bbl`	`I NEED TO LEAVE FOR CHRIST SAKES :)`
`01:06.37`	`b11d\|bbl`	`hang on TheSov`
`01:06.38`	`adde`	`call RollJoint()`
`01:06.39`	`adde`	`while not fallasleep`
`01:06.39`	`adde`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:06.39`	`adde`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:06.39`	`adde`	`loop`
`01:06.47`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)))))!!!`
`01:06.50`	`b11d\|bbl`	`get all i`
`01:06.50`	`adde`	`go home first though`
`01:07.42`	`adde`	`actually i forgot the SQL statment. INPUT INTO lungs SET MIND=AtPEACE`
`01:08.15`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)`
`01:08.22`	`b11d\|bbl`	`TheSov.. man thats strange..`
`01:08.35`	`b11d\|bbl`	`whats with these "application not found" issues today`
`01:09.44`	`b11d\|bbl`	`hey TheSov.. can you get "show application DigitTimeout" at the CLI?`
`01:10.05`	`TheSov`	`ok`
`01:10.25`	`b11d\|bbl`	`results?`
`01:10.35`	`TheSov`	`apparently it says im not registered'`
`01:10.44`	`b11d\|bbl`	`what version of asterisk?`
`01:11.08`	`b11d\|bbl`	`DigitTimeout was depreciated in 1.4 eh gotta use "Set(TIMEOUT(digit)=5"`
`01:11.22`	`b11d\|bbl`	`DigitTimeout was depreciated in 1.4 eh gotta use "Set(TIMEOUT(digit)=5) " that is`
`01:11.31`	`TheSov`	`wonderfull so that whole IVR menu thing i was looking at is useless?`
`01:11.34`	`b11d\|bbl`	`no`
`01:11.45`	`b11d\|bbl`	`well, i dont know what you mean, so maybe :)`
`01:11.56`	`b11d\|bbl`	`so you ARE using 1.4 then?`
`01:12.17`	`TheSov`	`140 yes`
`01:12.42`	`b11d\|bbl`	`ok.. that explains that issue then. (I think)`
`01:12.51`	`TheSov`	`is their an updated IVR tutorial`
`01:12.59`	`b11d\|bbl`	`no idea, I just do my own thing..`
`01:13.07`	`b11d\|bbl`	`check out voip-info.org and the like`
`01:13.08`	`TheSov`	`cuz the one on voip-info is old`
`01:13.10`	`b11d\|bbl`	`oh`
`01:13.11`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)`
`01:13.17`	`adde`	`Anyone using Festival ?`
`01:13.21`	`adde`	`with *`
`01:13.28`	`b11d\|bbl`	`well go to groups.google.com and search "asterisk 1.4 IVR" and go..`
`01:13.38`	`TheSov`	`does the sample extenstions.conf cover it?`
`01:13.39`	`b11d\|bbl`	`I run Festival on * with FreeBSD`
`01:13.43`	`adde`	`b11 go to sleep`
`01:13.49`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i dont know TheSov.. sorry.`
`01:13.54`	`aydiosmio`	`I had problems with * on FreeBSD a few years ago`
`01:13.56`	`b11d\|bbl`	`adde, you're right.. you're right.. you're right.. im OUT.`
`01:13.56`	`TheSov`	`ok thank you for the help guys`
`01:13.59`	`TheSov`	`bye`
`01:14.00`	`aydiosmio`	`has compatibility improved?`
`01:14.05`	`b11d\|bbl`	`it is just tits for me`
`01:14.11`	`adde`	`Take it easy m8...see ya`
`01:14.13`	`b11d\|bbl`	`1.2.16 doesnt compile, but 1.2.14 does, and 1.4.x do..`
`01:14.15`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)`
`01:14.16`	`b11d\|bbl`	`cya`
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`01:18.57`	`DocHolliday`	`my cisco phone is able to place calls just fine but there is no sound :O any ideas?`
`01:21.43`	`Dovid`	`Doc: the age old question - behind NAT ?`
`01:25.16`	`rvhi3`	`anyone familiar with SIP domain support in 1.2?`
`01:25.28`	`rvhi3`	`what does it do?`
`01:25.30`	`Dovid`	`nope.`
`01:25.38`	`Dovid`	`search the wiki`
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`01:35.57`	`DocHolliday`	`are there examples on the net of large asterisk deployments?`
`01:36.08`	`Dovid`	`look at the wiki`
`01:36.16`	`Dovid`	`did u read the book ?`
`01:36.26`	`DocHolliday`	`book yes, wiki no`
`01:37.55`	`Dovid`	`i dont know if there is a specific example but poke aroun there`
`01:38.02`	`Dovid`	`alos r u on the list ?`
`01:38.07`	`DocHolliday`	`Dovid, these examples seem to reference T1 cards, if i am doing all VoIP (SIP Trunking with phones on the G711 codec) will my requirements be lower?`
`01:38.14`	`DocHolliday`	`which list? :)`
`01:41.46`	`Dovid`	`users list`
`01:41.54`	`JT`	`DocHolliday: the cisco problem... is the cisco phone behind nat`
`01:41.55`	`JT`	`?`
`01:42.12`	`DocHolliday`	`yes, but i forwarded all the ports`
`01:42.26`	`DocHolliday`	`Dovid, what users list? :P`
`01:42.40`	`JT`	`yeah cisco phones don't really work behind nat unless you have a PIX box`
`01:42.47`	`JT`	`another reason i don't like cisco phones`
`01:42.57`	`DocHolliday`	`even if you forward the ports?`
`01:43.05`	`JT`	`yes`
`01:43.13`	`JT`	`cisco phones expect symmetrical nat`
`01:43.17`	`JT`	`except`
`01:43.21`	`JT`	`well symetrical ports too`
`01:43.34`	`JT`	`they expect to receive traffic on 5060 as well as send to 5060`
`01:43.38`	`DocHolliday`	`so every phone needs a static iP? :)`
`01:43.44`	`JT`	`pix gateways fix that in sip aware mode`
`01:43.57`	`DocHolliday`	`thats fine? i forwarded 5060 to the phone`
`01:43.59`	`JT`	`(and break all other sip phones)`
`01:44.42`	`DocHolliday`	`yeah, interestingly enough it connects fine and can even dial out, just no sound`
`01:45.07`	`JT`	`well they're different ports`
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`01:47.28`	`Narkov-`	`i'm getting about 500ms of static noise at the beginning of "originate" calls...after the initial static all is fine..any ideas?`
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`01:52.32`	`hphinc`	`I am looking for a good source on the asterisk manager interface so I can write some apps to work with asterisk. Does anyone have any suggestions?`
`01:52.48`	`Narkov-`	`voip-info.org?`
`01:52.55`	`hphinc`	`:-)`
`01:52.59`	`JT`	`the book has a bit too`
`01:53.50`	`hphinc`	`I was looking for something more specific about how to make a Windows app access / work with asterisk.`
`01:54.11`	`DocHolliday`	`if an asterisk box were run on a ramdisk would it help performance over say a raid array?`
`01:54.24`	`hphinc`	`I guess my question is, how do I connect to it with a Windows app?`
`01:55.48`	`hphinc`	`Do I just open a socket and connect?`
`01:55.52`	`Dovid`	`yup`
`01:56.00`	`hphinc`	`yup to me?`
`01:56.07`	`Dovid`	`i wrote something basic a looong time ago with VB`
`01:56.10`	`Dovid`	`pretty much`
`01:56.20`	`hphinc`	`could you send me your source?`
`01:56.23`	`Dovid`	`u just send it commands`
`01:56.27`	`hphinc`	`So I can have it as a reference?`
`01:56.29`	`Dovid`	`its on a diffrent PC :(`
`01:56.34`	`hphinc`	`[crying]`
`01:56.36`	`hphinc`	`:-)`
`01:56.44`	`Dovid`	`google it`
`01:56.48`	`hphinc`	`What did you use to open the socket?`
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`01:58.22`	`JT`	`DocHolliday: depends what the storage is needed for`
`01:58.55`	`DocHolliday`	`JT, for example if i were to load the OS + Asterisk into a Ram Disk would that give me more capacity?`
`01:59.16`	`Dovid`	`hp: reg. winsock connection`
`01:59.57`	`hphinc`	`ok, so just open the conn with winsock, and then pass text commands according to the protocol described in asteriskdoc.org for the AMI, and it will return information? It's that easy?`
`02:00.00`	`hphinc`	`I love asterisk.`
`02:00.19`	`hphinc`	`thanks.`
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`02:01.07`	`JT`	`DocHolliday: WHAT will you be needing the disk for?`
`02:02.15`	`DocHolliday`	`JT, my intention is to maximize the amount of SIP peers and trunks I can have on a given system. Thus I wondered if I loaded the OS + Asterisk into a 'ram disk' would this aid in increasing performance / achieving greater capacity`
`02:02.42`	`JT`	`no, if you aren't using the disk for anything, a ramdisk will be almost utterly useless`
`02:02.43`	`Dovid`	`Doc: have u looked at SER ?`
`02:03.18`	`DocHolliday`	`Dovid, heard of it, never used it :)`
`02:03.24`	`JT`	`you should look at provisioning parts of the system well that actually have some relation to the task it will be performing`
`02:03.36`	`Dovid`	`its sort of a proxy. it can span the call out over multiple box's`
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`02:04.33`	`DocHolliday`	`Dovid, reading about it now`
`02:05.29`	`Dovid`	`kk`
`02:05.41`	`DocHolliday`	`looks very interesting`
`02:07.18`	`DocHolliday`	`Dovid, will people use SER in conjunction with Asterisk?`
`02:11.35`	`adde`	`quick linux question if i wanna search for a file in the filesystem named log*.log what command is it`
`02:11.46`	`Qwell`	`find`
`02:11.57`	`Qwell`	`find / -name 'log*.log'`
`02:12.06`	`DocHolliday`	`i wish there was a site that really explained SER`
`02:13.12`	`JT`	`there's OpenSER too, a lot of people are moving to that`
`02:13.17`	`JT`	`it's being developed more`
`02:13.32`	`DocHolliday`	`JT, i just wish the website really explained what it was`
`02:13.40`	`JT`	`it's a sip proxy`
`02:13.41`	`adde`	`Qwell: with that i just come to a > prompt`
`02:13.50`	`Qwell`	`adde: You missed a '`
`02:14.10`	`adde`	`thanks m8`
`02:14.25`	`DocHolliday`	`JT, so companies would use SER to take care of the registration portion of their environment?`
`02:14.44`	`JT`	`it does more than registration, but yes they could`
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`02:16.04`	`DocHolliday`	`JT, is the best way to increase my knowledge of SER by reading up on SIP proxies?`
`02:16.15`	`adde`	`Anyone using festival here?`
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`02:17.42`	`Dovid`	`nope. tried it once. crashed my box`
`02:17.57`	`JT`	`DocHolliday: i guess so, and checking the wiki entries on it`
`02:18.28`	`DocHolliday`	`JT, will SER basically take some of the load off of Asterisk?`
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`02:19.46`	`Dovid`	`Doc: yes and no`
`02:19.50`	`Dovid`	`well for sure yes`
`02:20.01`	`Dovid`	`but even more if the box dosent handle the rtp stream`
`02:20.06`	`adde`	`in the wiki; If you see a message such as:`
`02:20.06`	`adde`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:20.06`	`adde`	`then edit the festival/bin/festival_server startup script to include that FQDM in the line with "localhost.*".`
`02:20.29`	`adde`	`i cant find a line FQDM or anything like it...am i missunderstanding the help?`
`02:20.33`	`CtRiX`	`anyone solved the gdb lies problem ?`
`02:20.53`	`CtRiX`	`it's telling bullshits about crash backtrace`
`02:21.08`	`DocHolliday`	`Dovid, for example if you had 2 High Specification Asterisk servers (Dual Processors, 4G ram, 3*SATA HD in raid) and your load was high, could you compensate for that by offloading some of the tasks to a SER machine?`
`02:21.34`	`Dovid`	`i never used SER myself so i cant say`
`02:21.35`	`CtRiX`	`ops wrong channel`
`02:21.58`	`Dovid`	`but yes. it will take off some of the load. if asterisk still handes the rtp stream than not much.`
`02:22.43`	`JT`	`adde: Fully Qualified Domain Name`
`02:23.19`	`DocHolliday`	`Dovid, then the main question i guess is does the feature set in question here handled better by SER or Asterisk?`
`02:23.47`	`adde`	`where can i see the FQDM of my box?`
`02:23.57`	`adde`	`localhost doesnt work :S`
`02:25.28`	`Dovid`	`what feature set ?`
`02:26.03`	`nickname`	`I'm gonna sleep guys!`
`02:26.11`	`nickname`	`gnight and speak to you soon again ;)`
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`02:35.50`	`Qwell`	`Somebody should buy me this. :P http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822146226`
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`02:38.09`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell, whats so special about it?`
`02:38.20`	`Qwell`	`nothing, I just need a bigger drive, heh`
`02:38.29`	`Qwell`	`s/need/want/`
`02:38.44`	`DocHolliday`	`ah`
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`02:45.16`	`aydiosmio`	`youhave too much stuff on your notebook`
`02:45.26`	`Qwell`	`not really`
`02:45.41`	`aydiosmio`	`don't lie`
`02:45.45`	`aydiosmio`	`it's all mp3s and porn`
`02:45.49`	`Qwell`	`it is`
`02:45.54`	`Qwell`	`I never said it wasn't`
`02:46.12`	`aydiosmio`	`I keep all that junk on my desktop`
`02:46.30`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell has there ever been a wiki page on how much to charge for asterisk labour?`
`02:46.32`	`Qwell`	`I have a couple of OSes - and the current drive is only 40GB`
`02:46.44`	`Qwell`	`DocHolliday: nah, it varies pretty wildly`
`02:47.00`	`Qwell`	`I've seen between probably $25/hour and $200+/hour`
`02:47.07`	`DocHolliday`	`are there any general rates that come off the top of your head? (ballpark)`
`02:47.17`	`DocHolliday`	`heh`
`02:47.23`	`aydiosmio`	`all my consulting work is generally in the $90 range`
`02:47.40`	`DocHolliday`	`i have heard of a particular company charging $160.. i that that was crazy`
`02:47.43`	`aydiosmio`	`for short projects, usually 1 to 10 hours with a single client`
`02:47.50`	`aydiosmio`	`I adjust my fees for large projects`
`02:48.00`	`DocHolliday`	`*think`
`02:48.00`	`Qwell`	`aydiosmio: indeed`
`02:48.41`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, USD?`
`02:48.44`	`aydiosmio`	`USD`
`02:49.23`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, its unusual because with most small offices you can usually finish the work in 1-3 hours (thus making me want to charge more)`
`02:49.31`	`aydiosmio`	`of course`
`02:49.38`	`Qwell`	`DocHolliday: think of it this way... if one person charges $75/hour and another charges $150/hour, but that second guy is MUCH faster than the first...`
`02:49.55`	`Qwell`	`faster, higher quality, etc`
`02:50.05`	`Qwell`	`of course, that doesn't mean that everybody who charges that much is worth it`
`02:50.06`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell, right.. because otherwise i'd be forced to fill my day with 1-2 hour appointments :P`
`02:50.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`Fast, cheap, good. Pick any two.`
`02:50.16`	`aydiosmio`	`usually fees are commensurate with experience`
`02:50.32`	`Qwell`	`Corydon76-home: we're still talking about consultants, right?`
`02:50.35`	`Qwell`	`:P`
`02:50.36`	`aydiosmio`	`DocHolliday: that's how contractign works`
`02:50.53`	`Corydon76-home`	`Qwell: same law applies`
`02:51.07`	`aydiosmio`	`uh`
`02:51.10`	`aydiosmio`	`fast and cheap?`
`02:51.15`	`aydiosmio`	`hm`
`02:51.17`	`DocHolliday`	`haha`
`02:51.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`aydiosmio: but not good`
`02:51.44`	`aydiosmio`	`it just didnt' sound right`
`02:51.49`	`aydiosmio`	`but I guess it applies there too`
`02:51.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`Heheh`
`02:52.14`	`Qwell`	`<Corydon76-home> Fast, cheap, good. Pick any two. Either way, you're getting screwed.`
`02:52.30`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah if your in house guy can't do it, you're payign too much`
`02:52.51`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell, heh.. do you do consulting work in relation to Asterisk?`
`02:52.57`	`Qwell`	`not anymore`
`02:53.19`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell, may I ask why?`
`02:53.40`	`Qwell`	`I already spend all day every day doing it :P`
`02:54.07`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell unemployed?`
`02:54.13`	`Qwell`	`whois me`
`02:54.18`	`aydiosmio`	`muahah`
`02:54.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`Why do contract work when you can be paid 40 hours/wk to do it?`
`02:54.58`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell, work for digium?`
`02:55.00`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`02:55.16`	`Qwell`	`I did consulting for a while in my free time, but I seriously suck at quoting people a rate`
`02:55.52`	`DocHolliday`	`and your job description is Freenode support?`
`02:55.53`	`DocHolliday`	`hehe :)`
`02:56.01`	`Qwell`	`developer`
`02:56.19`	`Qwell`	`I don't get paid to be in here :P`
`02:56.22`	`DocHolliday`	`gotcha`
`02:56.40`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell, i was wondernig about that ;)`
`02:56.46`	`Qwell`	`it's technically part of the job description though.. I would do it anyways though`
`02:57.13`	`Qwell`	`DocHolliday: + ~20%`
`02:57.16`	`DocHolliday`	`sure`
`02:57.32`	`Qwell`	`dunno, ask blitzrage what he charges`
`02:57.33`	`DocHolliday`	`yeah`
`02:58.09`	`Qwell`	`I could never do consulting full time...`
`02:58.19`	`DocHolliday`	`doesnt appear to be in here`
`02:58.22`	`Qwell`	`I only really did project that were fun, for people who weren't asses`
`02:59.11`	`aydiosmio`	`Qwell: were you the core developer who didn't know anythign about the TC400?`
`02:59.26`	`Qwell`	`aydiosmio: dunno, probably`
`02:59.35`	`DocHolliday`	`lol`
`02:59.37`	`aydiosmio`	`is that an accurate description?`
`02:59.43`	`Qwell`	`pretty much`
`02:59.53`	`Qwell`	`I mean, I know what it is any how it works`
`03:00.03`	`Qwell`	`but I hadn't played with one before yesterday`
`03:00.28`	`aydiosmio`	`My company wants to use it to convert g723 to g729, have any tips?`
`03:00.37`	`Qwell`	`you'll have to use 2 channels`
`03:00.48`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah, That's what I heard from your tech support`
`03:01.14`	`aydiosmio`	`I was really surprised when I saw that spec`
`03:01.21`	`Qwell`	`That's gonna sound horrible though, honestly`
`03:01.42`	`Qwell`	`going from one highly compressed codec to another highly compressed codec`
`03:02.09`	`aydiosmio`	`it works pretty well on our AS5300`
`03:02.26`	`Qwell`	`really?`
`03:02.29`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah`
`03:02.31`	`Qwell`	`hmm`
`03:02.38`	`aydiosmio`	`it's nothing spectacular`
`03:02.47`	`aydiosmio`	`but if we wanted spectacular we wouldn't be using g723`
`03:02.51`	`Qwell`	`true`
`03:03.18`	`aydiosmio`	`we have a lot of dial-up customers, so we need to accomodate them`
`03:03.46`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell, i was asked how much I charge today (hourly) and I told them i'd email them my price list :) problem is i dont know what to put.`
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`03:04.09`	`aydiosmio`	`DocHolliday: what kind of work/company?`
`03:04.21`	`aydiosmio`	`and what geographical area?`
`03:04.42`	`aydiosmio`	`and what kind of experience do you have?`
`03:05.08`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, Canada (SMB service sector), Contract Work with a potential partnership`
`03:05.31`	`DocHolliday`	`I am fairly advanced with Linux ~5 years, with about ~1yr+ with Asterisk`
`03:05.52`	`aydiosmio`	`and you're doing 1-3 hrs per call/project?`
`03:05.54`	`DocHolliday`	`most of my experience is outside of VoIP`
`03:06.19`	`DocHolliday`	`i'd like to list that as a starting point so to speak`
`03:06.23`	`aydiosmio`	`so you have relatively little telecom experience?`
`03:06.44`	`DocHolliday`	`i have a fair bit of telecom experience outside of VoIP`
`03:06.50`	`aydiosmio`	`oh okay`
`03:06.58`	`DocHolliday`	`usually i'd charge about ~90 an hour+`
`03:07.15`	`aydiosmio`	`that's good -- a lot of businesses will have POTS/Digital lines that would need to be taken care of`
`03:07.32`	`aydiosmio`	`90 CAD?`
`03:07.36`	`DocHolliday`	`yeah, i am not a beginner by any means.. i just have no idea what the billing rate is for VoIP work`
`03:07.38`	`DocHolliday`	`yeah`
`03:08.11`	`ManxPower`	`DocHolliday: As much as you can get. Same as with any other consulting work 8-)`
`03:08.26`	`aydiosmio`	`well he doesn't want to turn off clients of course`
`03:08.42`	`aydiosmio`	`taht's about $75 US`
`03:08.43`	`ManxPower`	`I have two rates. The "I want to do this rate" and the "I don't want to do this but if you pay me lots of money I will"`
`03:08.43`	`DocHolliday`	`yeah, id like to strike some sort of balance`
`03:08.49`	`aydiosmio`	`and that's what I would have suggested DocHolliday`
`03:09.05`	`aydiosmio`	`as a starting rate in your area`
`03:09.11`	`aydiosmio`	`and expertise`
`03:09.42`	`ManxPower`	`The problem with hourly rates is that it is easy to lower them, but hard to raise them with exisitng clients.`
`03:10.08`	`b11d\|bbl`	`tell them to pull a slip of paper out of a hat, and have different rates on different slips.`
`03:10.12`	`b11d\|bbl`	`that way, everyone's cool.`
`03:10.13`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)`
`03:10.37`	`aydiosmio`	`or draw up a contract and take a percentage of their gross for what they earn based on your work.`
`03:10.42`	`aydiosmio`	`lorf`
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`03:22.33`	`Cisco_System`	`Hi all`
`03:23.05`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, LOL`
`03:23.11`	`b11d\|bbl`	`holy shit the entire Cisco behemoth has arrived in here`
`03:23.25`	`DocHolliday`	`b11d\|bbl, thats what i was thinking ;)`
`03:23.35`	`Cisco_System`	`come on ... it's not so bad as you think lol`
`03:24.33`	`Cisco_System`	`Like I like cisco systems, so I'm here ... So you have a chanse to make me love asterisk more than cisco ? lol`
`03:24.54`	`Cisco_System`	`but actually I'm here , I need some VOIP gateway to mexico 521 ... any ideas ?`
`03:26.35`	`DocHolliday`	`cisco is not mexican`
`03:26.56`	`Cisco_System`	`let's do so ... anyone who can give me the right info about a good gateway to mexico 521 cell , (like I need it for 9-10 cent for minute) will have reward 2000 $ ... sounds like deal ?`
`03:27.28`	`Cisco_System`	`Cisoc is wolds famous voice system provider ... :) how can it be mexican ?:)`
`03:27.56`	`aydiosmio`	`heh`
`03:28.02`	`aydiosmio`	`typical shady voip dealings`
`03:28.10`	`b11d\|bbl`	`haha`
`03:28.15`	`aydiosmio`	`I'm glad I'm R&D and not the boss`
`03:28.31`	`Cybertoy`	`hmm... I saw a "free" mexican the other day for consumers`
`03:29.02`	`Cisco_System`	`Look ... I need some information ... :)`
`03:29.23`	`aydiosmio`	`Cisco_System: try qwest`
`03:29.26`	`Cisco_System`	`Right now I have traffic to mexico 521 like 60k mins a day`
`03:29.50`	`Cisco_System`	`so If you have some company that can give me that gateway you will be as rich as I will :)`
`03:30.11`	`Cisco_System`	`+ 2000 $ reward .`
`03:30.11`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i'd do it if it was for some sweet cartel action..`
`03:30.14`	`Qwell`	`I thought voip termination in Mexico was illegal?`
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`03:30.32`	`Cisco_System`	`It's legal`
`03:30.34`	`shadou`	`they unbundled just recently`
`03:30.38`	`shadou`	`so I assume it's legal now.`
`03:30.54`	`aydiosmio`	`our consumer voip rate to mexico mobile is $.39/min`
`03:30.55`	`aydiosmio`	`ouch`
`03:31.12`	`Cisco_System`	`that's pretty high huh ?`
`03:31.50`	`aydiosmio`	`I don't know, I don't have any family in mexico, so I have no idea how much I'd pay to call them`
`03:31.58`	`b11d\|bbl`	`haha thats a great gague.`
`03:32.03`	`b11d\|bbl`	`doh`
`03:32.15`	`b11d\|bbl`	`gauge`
`03:32.16`	`b11d\|bbl`	`:)`
`03:32.21`	`b11d\|bbl`	`hahahaha gague.`
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`03:34.06`	`aydiosmio`	`how do I get cool nouns and verbs in my hostmask?`
`03:34.41`	`shadou`	`message an oper`
`03:34.45`	`shadou`	`donate to a channel`
`03:34.47`	`Cisco_System`	`as`
`03:34.48`	`shadou`	`or something similar`
`03:34.58`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, i like my hostname better :P`
`03:35.05`	`aydiosmio`	`:(`
`03:35.08`	`aydiosmio`	`sad panda`
`03:35.29`	`b11d\|bbl`	`i just watched that`
`03:35.37`	`aydiosmio`	`124-168-160-176.dyn.iinet.net.au ?`
`03:35.42`	`b11d\|bbl`	`sexual harrassment, panda.`
`03:35.49`	`aydiosmio`	`ha`
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`03:38.52`	`mihinomenest`	`so, apparently, when my SIP provider sends me an incoming call, the only codec they use is g.729, apparently, this is a codec that xlite doesn't support. is there a way that I can add support for this codec?`
`03:39.35`	`osas`	`upgrade to eyebeam`
`03:39.45`	`osas`	`xlite is the free version`
`03:39.47`	`mihinomenest`	`is it free?`
`03:39.52`	`osas`	`729 is not free`
`03:39.53`	`mihinomenest`	`see, I have $0.`
`03:40.05`	`osas`	`then no luck for you ...`
`03:40.19`	`osas`	`729 is not a free codec`
`03:41.19`	`kev009`	`i thin it is $10 from digium`
`03:41.21`	`mihinomenest`	`seems like there's a plethora of g.729 transcoders out there.`
`03:41.29`	`aydiosmio`	`g729 is a patent-encumbered codec`
`03:41.32`	`aydiosmio`	`you're gonna have topay for it`
`03:41.38`	`aydiosmio`	`(in the form of a SIP client)`
`03:41.50`	`aydiosmio`	`oh, sorry, osas alrready said it`
`03:42.01`	`osas`	`:-)`
`03:42.20`	`mihinomenest`	`hmm.`
`03:43.08`	`dj-fu`	`woot`
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`03:43.21`	`mihinomenest`	`I've got a grandstream here, but for some reason, it doesn't interact with * fast enough to get through the IVR.`
`03:43.22`	`dj-fu`	`the hostmaskz`
`03:48.18`	ezway`	`why i am getting this : CAUSE : No authority found`
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`03:51.38`	`jdchaiken`	`Hi all. Quick question, can I use the '?' regex operator in an extension name? I'm trying to allow for both 10 and 11 digit dialing. Or is there an easier method?`
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`04:12.21`	`TheSov`	`does asterisk have to run as root?`
`04:13.50`	`Qwell`	`TheSov: no`
`04:13.59`	`Qwell`	`I'm too lazy to google... somebody double-check me...`
`04:14.10`	`TheSov`	`well it stores conf files /etc/asterisk`
`04:14.12`	`Qwell`	`cat 5 = OOGLLGBB ?`
`04:14.16`	`TheSov`	`which is why im asking`
`04:14.38`	`Qwell`	`TheSov: You can chown that dir to another user`
`04:14.39`	`DocHolliday`	`qwell http://www.google.com`
`04:14.40`	`DocHolliday`	`now all you have to do is double click`
`04:14.49`	`TheSov`	`white orange, orange, white green, blue, white blue, green, white brown, brown`
`04:14.53`	`Qwell`	`great`
`04:15.05`	`TheSov`	`B scheme that is`
`04:15.09`	`Qwell`	`I always forget which is B :p`
`04:15.41`	`TheSov`	`u making straigh thru?`
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`04:16.19`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`04:18.16`	`TheSov`	`do u guys think its ok to run it as root?`
`04:18.28`	`kev009`	`the * embedded scene is really weak`
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`04:18.40`	`kev009`	`I'm building my own gentoo compact flash image right now`
`04:19.06`	`osas`	`kev009: what are you looking for?`
`04:20.03`	`kev009`	`* that will fit on compact flash and run on i586`
`04:20.13`	`kev009`	`and 256MB`
`04:20.26`	`osas`	`I see`
`04:20.30`	`Qwell`	`I have asterisk in < 8mb :p`
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`04:20.42`	`jdchaiken`	`I'm liooking to do teh same thing actually. Working on it my my spare time`
`04:20.51`	`osas`	`* is running nicely on arm platforms (32M of ram)`
`04:20.55`	`kev009`	`jdchaiken: the resulting image is going on my website`
`04:21.07`	`kev009`	`its just something I wish I didn't have to do :)`
`04:21.10`	`TheSov`	`if u wanna be impressive run asterisk on a pda that runs embeddix`
`04:21.27`	`kev009`	`there needs to be a m0n0wall of *`
`04:21.32`	`osas`	`there are several small platforms that are running * nicely`
`04:21.45`	`jdchaiken`	`Sweet. what is your url?`
`04:22.03`	`kev009`	`osas: but they leave the x86 embedded crowd behind`
`04:22.11`	`kev009`	`jdchaiken: http://www.kev009.com/`
`04:22.23`	`osas`	`true`
`04:22.38`	`osas`	`but it is pretty easy to build for x86`
`04:22.50`	`osas`	`see: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/Asterisk`
`04:23.24`	`kev009`	`my image will hopefully include * 1.4.1`
`04:23.24`	`osas`	`for non x86 platforms`
`04:23.24`	`kev009`	`im using GCC 4.1.2 and uClibc`
`04:23.24`	`kev009`	`we'll see how compact I can get it`
`04:24.02`	`jdchaiken`	`thanks. How can I define multiple area codes as "local" do I have to have a dialplan line for each one?`
`04:24.18`	`kev009`	`I want web based config similar to freepbx, are there any lightweight scripts?`
`04:26.25`	`TheSov`	`man the more the i use asterisk the more i think it rocks`
`04:26.52`	`TheSov`	`its like development thought of everything people wanna do with and them implemented it in some way`
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`04:45.44`	`GiantPickle`	`Howdy all... I'm trying to set up an X-Lite phone on my wife's mac before she heads outta town for the weekend. I'm trying to get it hooked up to my asterisk box. I've set up sip.conf and extensions.conf.`
`04:45.59`	`GiantPickle`	`I'm now trying ton configure the X-lite phone to connect.`
`04:46.14`	`GiantPickle`	`It is getting through somehow, but not fully connecting.`
`04:46.34`	`Strom_M`	`define "not fully connecting"`
`04:46.56`	`GiantPickle`	`'sip show peers' tells me that it is connecting, but...`
`04:47.19`	`Strom_M`	`please hold while I divine the complete list of symptoms.`
`04:47.27`	`GiantPickle`	`hehe`
`04:47.37`	`GiantPickle`	`I'm trying to get you more info`
`04:48.09`	`GiantPickle`	`in sip show peers, host is Unspecified, Port is 0, and status is Unmonitored`
`04:48.17`	`GiantPickle`	`is that just because I've set it up in sip.conf?`
`04:48.42`	`GiantPickle`	`btw.. I'm pretty new at this incase you can't tell already`
`04:48.44`	`GiantPickle`	`=)`
`04:48.49`	`Strom_M`	`yes; the phone has not yet registered with your box`
`04:48.54`	`GiantPickle`	`ok`
`04:49.05`	`GiantPickle`	`so I'll have to see if I can figure out why`
`04:49.23`	`GiantPickle`	`I'm following a tutorial at asteriskguru.com`
`04:49.55`	`Strom_M`	`you need to tell the sip phone to register with your asterisk box`
`04:50.26`	`GiantPickle`	`it is trying, but login is timing out`
`04:50.35`	`GiantPickle`	`I'm rechecking my settings`
`04:50.45`	`Strom_M`	`are they on the same network segment?`
`04:51.50`	`GiantPickle`	`well...`
`04:52.17`	`GiantPickle`	`no they aren't`
`04:52.48`	`Strom_M`	`describe the network`
`04:53.02`	`GiantPickle`	`I'm trying to connect from externally`
`04:53.20`	`Strom_M`	`that doesn't tell me muc`
`04:53.22`	`Strom_M`	`er, much`
`04:53.32`	`Strom_M`	`is the asterisk box behind a NAT?`
`04:53.36`	`GiantPickle`	`yes`
`04:53.40`	`Strom_M`	`is the phone behind a different NAT?`
`04:53.43`	`GiantPickle`	`yes`
`04:53.47`	`Strom_M`	`there's your problem.`
`04:54.04`	`GiantPickle`	`ah... so I can't do that?`
`04:54.05`	`Strom_M`	`SIP and NAT, especially in that situation, don't play nicely.`
`04:54.14`	`file`	`(unless you configure things correctly)`
`04:54.30`	`Strom_M`	`well, you can, but it requires either massive abuse of the NAT, or very careful configuration`
`04:54.51`	`GiantPickle`	`there is an option on the sip phone that says "Send internal IP"`
`04:55.02`	`GiantPickle`	`could that help?`
`04:55.09`	`Strom_M`	`no`
`04:55.19`	`file`	`your Asterisk machine has to have externip and localnet set, plus ports 5060 and 10000 to 20000 forwarded router side`
`04:55.28`	`file`	`then the entry in sip.conf for the phone needs nat=yes and canreinvite=no`
`04:55.49`	`GiantPickle`	`I've got those ports forwarded on my * end`
`04:56.03`	`file`	`but is externip and localnet set?`
`04:56.28`	`GiantPickle`	`not sure... where do I look for that?`
`04:56.31`	`file`	`and the settings for the phone in sip.conf?`
`04:56.40`	`GiantPickle`	`I'll set those now`
`04:56.48`	`file`	`sip.conf, general section`
`04:58.52`	`GiantPickle`	`so the nat and canreinvite need to be in general section? or specific to the phone? -- I ask because I see them in the general section already`
`04:59.28`	`GiantPickle`	`externip and localnet are set in sip.conf`
`04:59.30`	`GiantPickle`	`and are correct`
`04:59.42`	`file`	`then the next step is to do a sip debug and see if the packets are reaching Asterisk`
`04:59.51`	`file`	`so type sip debug, shutdown the softphone, start it up again`
`05:00.01`	`file`	`if you don't see anything... then it's a configuration issue softphone side or network issue`
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`05:00.32`	`Strom_M`	`bkruse!`
`05:00.49`	`bkruse_home`	`Strom_M: what are you doing`
`05:00.57`	`Strom_M`	`i just got back to the hotel`
`05:01.08`	`bkruse_home`	`;[`
`05:01.17`	`bkruse_home`	`i think im going bowling`
`05:01.27`	`GiantPickle`	`lots o' stuff flyin' by on the debug when I shut down and restart the sip phone`
`05:01.40`	`file`	`GiantPickle: pastebin it`
`05:01.41`	`Strom_M`	`im trying to figure out the best way to add switches to this perl thingy i'm writing`
`05:01.57`	`bkruse_home`	`switch statements in perl?`
`05:02.33`	`Strom_M`	`command line switches`
`05:02.41`	`bkruse_home`	`oh`
`05:02.52`	`bkruse_home`	`dude, perl is the master of regular expressions, you can come up with something ;D`
`05:03.11`	`Strom_M`	`hehe, i know`
`05:03.21`	`Strom_M`	`it's been a loooong time since ive written anything in it though`
`05:03.24`	`Strom_M`	`so i'm rusty`
`05:03.52`	`bkruse_home`	`ya, im not too good at perl ;[`
`05:03.55`	`bkruse_home`	`file is the perl mast0r`
`05:04.07`	`file`	`ha`
`05:04.09`	`GiantPickle`	`file: I just noticed that I happen to have an ip at home that is the 192.168.1.101 behind my nat here... and the ip of the * box is 192.168.1.100 behind it's nat... might that be a problem?`
`05:04.31`	`Strom_M`	`i only had one bug in my program though, and that was because I wrote my for loop backwards :)`
`05:04.51`	`file`	`GiantPickle: maybe`
`05:04.57`	`bkruse_home`	`Strom_M: nice, one bug is not bad :D`
`05:05.22`	`GiantPickle`	`file: I'll try a different nat and see`
`05:07.34`	`GiantPickle`	`file: um... sry, but how do I capture all the stuff off the * CLI ?`
`05:11.06`	`jdchaiken`	`Why would that be a problem? The inside addresses are translated as they leave the NAT Router. The * network should have no clue about the private address on the far side.`
`05:11.34`	`Strom_M`	`except that SIP is a stupid protocol and transmits those messages in the SIP headers`
`05:11.39`	`bkruse_home`	`GiantPickle: logger.conf or just \| tee`
`05:13.10`	`jdchaiken`	`I havent played with it much yet, but does the PIX protocol fixup for SIP solve that?`
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`05:24.02`	`bkw__`	`Qwell you liave?`
`05:24.08`	`bkw__`	`er alive?`
`05:24.17`	`Qwell`	`yeah`
`05:24.30`	`bkruse_home`	`lies!`
`05:25.51`	`Qwell`	`stupid linksys...`
`05:26.16`	`Qwell`	`their live chat is busted, and this friggen thing can't get dhcp properly`
`05:26.38`	`Qwell`	`it just completely fails to accept an OFFER`
`05:28.18`	`Qwell`	`I wonder if I can RMA something I've had for > 2 years`
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`05:35.32`	`GiantPickle`	`file: different nat did the trick`
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`05:35.45`	`GiantPickle`	`Thanks for the help`
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`05:42.59`	`TheSov`	`does anyone know how u would setup a dial pool for sip registrations?`
`05:46.11`	`TheSov`	`maybe ill ask tomorrow it seems a bit late for that now`
`05:46.14`	`TheSov`	`goodnight all`
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`06:30.31`	`Qwell`	`grr`
`06:30.40`	`Qwell`	`How can I flush the ARP cache on a Linksys device?`
`06:30.45`	`Qwell`	`their support sucks`
`06:31.28`	`VeNoMouS_`	`qwell`
`06:31.32`	`VeNoMouS_`	`did u see my msg from yesterday?`
`06:31.38`	`Qwell`	`no`
`06:31.40`	`VeNoMouS_`	`just wondering if u had heard or done anything on svn with that`
`06:31.53`	`VeNoMouS_`	`seems chanisavail in 1.4.1 isnt returning anything except 0`
`06:32.24`	`VeNoMouS_`	`just wondering if any 1 else had bought up that issue?`
`06:32.49`	`Qwell`	`not that I've seen`
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`06:46.15`	`PakiPenguin`	`hi`
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`07:06.25`	Math`	`any way to include register instructions in iax realtime? or do I need to write them to a file and reload`
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`08:21.13`	`Metfan2007`	`hi everybody`
`08:21.44`	`Metfan2007`	`does anybody has worked with hylafax to send faxes trought asterisk? I have some problems....`
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`08:24.16`	`Metfan2007`	`pls help`
`08:26.17`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: Nope, noone, not even the people who developed the stuff, bad luck.`
`08:28.00`	`Metfan2007`	`does anybody use hylafax?`
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`08:28.55`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: Nope, nobody, really. It's not meant for being used.`
`08:29.36`	`Metfan2007`	`so what do you use to deliver fax service?`
`08:30.05`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: Fax? Who wants fax?`
`08:30.37`	`Metfan2007`	`????`
`08:30.52`	`SwK`	`metfan2007: TDM?`
`08:30.59`	`Metfan2007`	`a lot of sohos still use fax`
`08:31.04`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: Gee, if you have a question, _ask_ it!`
`08:31.09`	`SwK`	`everyone wants fax`
`08:31.37`	`SwK`	`people that say they dont use them in business dont do much business`
`08:31.39`	`Qwell`	`SwK: go to bed`
`08:31.44`	`SwK`	`qwell no`
`08:31.47`	`Qwell`	`:p`
`08:31.50`	`SwK`	`heh`
`08:32.04`	`Metfan2007`	`he`
`08:34.38`	`Metfan2007`	`ok, the question is: When I try to send a fax via Hylafax, Asterisk CLI says: "Rejected connect attempt from 127.0.0.1, who was trying to reach '836260226@'"`
`08:34.54`	`Metfan2007`	`Why is that?`
`08:35.59`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: How do you interface Hylafax to asterisk?`
`08:36.34`	`Metfan2007`	`iaxmodem`
`08:37.10`	`SwK`	`sounds like you dont have iaxmodem or the context its sending calls thru set up correctly`
`08:38.00`	`Qwell`	`man, harrasing linksys is fun`
`08:38.50`	`Qwell`	`they try to tell me that I need to connect to a device via my default gateway, and that I need to reset it (yet again) in order to connect to it...`
`08:38.58`	`Metfan2007`	`I have iaxmodem, it works great receiving faxes, PSTN -> Asterisk -> Iaxmodem -> Hylafax -> Email`
`08:39.10`	`Qwell`	`So, I tell her that it started smoking when I reset it`
`08:40.02`	`Metfan2007`	`the context in iax.conf is ok`
`08:40.03`	`Qwell`	`"What means smoking?"`
`08:40.32`	`Qwell`	`I have a feeling that isn't in their book...`
`08:40.51`	`florz`	`hehe :-)`
`08:41.31`	`Qwell`	`this is seriously bugging me.. the device works just fine on one network, but if I move it to another network with the same IP range, it doesn't respond to any packets`
`08:41.31`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: Can you make calls using the same authentication data but a different client?`
`08:41.45`	`Qwell`	`it'll do a DHCPDISCOVER, and then we'll send a DHCPOFFER, but it never sends a DHCPREQUEST`
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`08:43.59`	`Metfan2007`	`florz: Mmmmm... actually, it is using "peer" type, not "friend". "peer" is only used to receive calls, correct?`
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`08:53.39`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: no`
`08:54.53`	`Metfan2007`	`so? it does not change anything?`
`08:54.53`	Math`	`Qwell: what device`
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`08:55.13`	`Qwell`	`WET11`
`08:56.34`	Math`	`its a bridge... so the only reason it wants an IP is for the web interface?`
`08:57.02`	`Qwell`	`yes, but it won't be able to pass through packets either`
`08:57.14`	Math`	`ah`
`08:57.30`	`florz`	`Metfan2007: Maybe that's explained in the documentation?`
`08:57.32`	Math`	`it probably tries to do "routing"`
`08:57.46`	`Qwell`	`no clue, but it works just fine on another network`
`08:59.09`	Math`	`how much is one of those, sounds cheaper than a router with client mode support`
`08:59.21`	`Qwell`	`$50ish? I think`
`08:59.25`	Math`	`ok`
`08:59.35`	`Qwell`	`it's decent when it works`
`08:59.38`	Math`	`lol`
`08:59.51`	Math`	`maybe you need to flash the config every time you move it network :)`
`09:00.02`	`Qwell`	`I tried that :P`
`09:00.43`	`Qwell`	`I need to stop buying Linksys is what I need`
`09:00.51`	Math`	`heh`
`09:01.02`	Math`	`linksys usually works`
`09:01.09`	`Qwell`	`when it works :p`
`09:01.17`	Math`	`did u check for firmware updates?`
`09:01.27`	`Qwell`	`yep, 3 years ago was the last update :D`
`09:01.38`	Math`	`ahaha`
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`09:03.04`	`Qwell`	`I need an ethernet-ethernet bridge or something, heh`
`09:03.13`	Math`	`isnt that called a switch? :)`
`09:03.22`	`Qwell`	`layer 3`
`09:03.27`	Math`	`ah`
`09:03.49`	Math`	`that'd be more of a router tho`
`09:03.49`	`Qwell`	`I'm gonna try putting a switch between the devices tomorrow, but...meh`
`09:03.58`	`Qwell`	`but I don't want it to do any routing :P`
`09:04.04`	`Qwell`	`just pass the packets through :D`
`09:04.11`	Math`	`so why do u need layer 3 :P`
`09:04.19`	`Qwell`	`because this thing is a POS :D`
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`09:04.31`	Math`	`and so? :)`
`09:04.39`	`Qwell`	`and so, I need to stop buying linksys :P`
`09:04.42`	Math`	`lol`
`09:04.56`	Math`	`what are you gonna buy`
`09:05.09`	`Qwell`	`I'm about to just run a cable :P`
`09:05.10`	`bartpbx`	`hello, anyone online using orderlyCalls or JAGIServer?`
`09:05.46`	Math`	`thats the solution! :P`
`09:06.09`	Math`	`uhm quicky.... is there any way to include register statements in iax realtime? I only see options for peers/users on the wiki`
`09:06.13`	`Qwell`	`yeah, I need to do something else for wireless if I'm gonna move this`
`09:06.22`	`Qwell`	`nope, realtime is for contexts`
`09:06.33`	Math`	`ah I see`
`09:06.50`	`Qwell`	`I need sleep... stupid linksys, keeping me up for 3 hours`
`09:06.55`	`Qwell`	`I should send them a bill.`
`09:07.05`	`Qwell`	`in fact, yes, I'm going to.`
`09:07.41`	`Qwell`	`bed :D`
`09:07.48`	Math`	`heh`
`09:07.49`	Math`	`nite`
`09:07.56`	Math`	`what time is it at yorus`
`09:07.57`	Math`	`yours*`
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`09:27.33`	`bartpbx`	`hi`
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`09:35.59`	`MooingLemur`	`moo?`
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`10:33.27`	`Ast001`	`Hello people`
`10:33.34`	`bartpbx`	`hello`
`10:33.51`	`Ast001`	`I need your help`
`10:34.29`	`Ast001`	`I have agent already on situation`
`10:34.45`	`bartpbx`	`whats your Problem?`
`10:34.49`	`Ast001`	`because my agent was logged on`
`10:34.56`	`Ast001`	`and had power failure`
`10:35.08`	`Ast001`	`and asterisk thinks he is still logged in`
`10:35.16`	`Ast001`	`and distribute calls to him ?!`
`10:35.40`	`Ast001`	`until I remove him with agent logoff Agent/1 from cli`
`10:35.55`	`Ast001`	`is there automatic solution for that problem`
`10:36.20`	`Ast001`	`I have ancient Asterisk 1.2.0`
`10:37.15`	`bartpbx`	`i dont think there is an automatic solution for this`
`10:37.20`	`Ast001`	`but`
`10:37.29`	`Ast001`	`what would happend if I had 5000 agents`
`10:37.41`	`Ast001`	`this would be nightmare`
`10:38.18`	`Ast001`	`I am sure there is a solution`
`10:38.50`	`Ast001`	`does this problem have something with protocol which I use ?`
`10:38.57`	`Ast001`	`sip or iax2 ?`
`10:39.17`	`bartpbx`	`do you qualitfy the peers?`
`10:39.51`	`bartpbx`	`im not using queues so there might be a solution i dont know`
`10:39.51`	`Ast001`	`what does that mean ?`
`10:39.53`	`bartpbx`	`you shuld sear around in the wiki`
`10:40.16`	`bartpbx`	`do you have a qualify=yes in your sip / iax.conf?`
`10:40.27`	`Ast001`	`let me see`
`10:42.35`	`Ast001`	`no I don't`
`10:42.43`	`bartpbx`	`you shuld add this`
`10:42.53`	`bartpbx`	`then * check if the peer is online`
`10:43.31`	`bartpbx`	`maybe the queue than no longer distributes cal to an unavailible peer`
`10:43.40`	`bartpbx`	`bzw. agent`
`10:43.44`	`bartpbx`	`but i'm not sure`
`10:44.15`	`Ast001`	`i will try for a sec`
`10:47.45`	`Ast001`	`but I need to simulate power failure situation`
`10:48.06`	`Ast001`	`Thank you I'll go offline now and come back for few minutes`
`10:48.19`	`Ast001`	`thanks for hint`
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`10:53.45`	`Qwerty1979`	`hello everyone, can someone guide me thru the process of posting a bug report ? i think i've got a sip related problem that segfaults asterisk`
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`10:56.36`	`Ast001`	`That did not solve the problem`
`10:56.42`	`Ast001`	`I just tried`
`10:56.53`	`bartpbx`	`hm`
`10:57.01`	`Ast001`	`with qualify=yes in sip.conf`
`10:57.09`	`SwK`	`qwerty1979 bugs.digium.com go theere... there's info on filing a bug and what info to post`
`10:57.37`	`Ast001`	`registered on grandstream phone and take out power cord`
`10:57.44`	`Ast001`	`and I hanged on system as logged in`
`10:58.05`	`bartpbx`	`how long did you wait`
`10:58.16`	`Ast001`	`5-10 sec`
`10:58.22`	`Ast001`	`do i need to wait longer ?`
`10:58.42`	`bartpbx`	`you need to see on the * that he discovered that the peer has gone away`
`10:58.45`	`Qwerty1979`	`SwK, i've been there already, read the info on posting bugs, but it goes about stuff i'm not familiar with - namely debuggers, backtraces and stuff ;)`
`10:58.50`	`bartpbx`	`that takes a few tim`
`10:59.10`	`Qwerty1979`	`Ast001, does your phone has PoE ? :)`
`10:59.22`	`Ast001`	`it has ethernet cable`
`10:59.58`	`Qwerty1979`	`Ast001, when you pull the power cable out, does the phone dies ?`
`11:00.12`	`Ast001`	`yes`
`11:00.18`	`Ast001`	`no power`
`11:00.22`	`Ast001`	`stop working`
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`11:00.59`	`Ast001`	`so you suggest to do it again but to wait few minutes`
`11:01.00`	`Ast001`	`?`
`11:01.19`	`bartpbx`	`as i told you am not sure if this is working`
`11:01.32`	`Qwerty1979`	`i think the timeout was shorter`
`11:01.42`	`Ast001`	`timeout ?`
`11:01.45`	`bartpbx`	`but you shuld wait until * says something like "Unavailible"`
`11:01.46`	`Qwerty1979`	`let me check on my system`
`11:01.55`	`Ast001`	`please`
`11:02.12`	`JT`	`UNREACHABLE it will come up with in the console`
`11:02.17`	`JT`	`and 5-10secs is far too short`
`11:02.35`	`bartpbx`	`oh sorry.. you are right unreachable ist the correct message`
`11:02.53`	`Ast001`	`so after 5-10 sec it will find that peer is unreachable and write it in console ?`
`11:03.22`	`JT`	`usually within a minute`
`11:04.06`	`Qwerty1979`	`took less than minute`
`11:04.17`	`Ast001`	`let me see than`
`11:04.27`	`Ast001`	`I will disconect for few minutes and come back after`
`11:04.31`	`Ast001`	`thanks again`
`11:06.16`	`JT`	`why cant you just stay connected`
`11:06.30`	`JT`	`continually connecting and disconnecting from irc is annoying`
`11:07.03`	`Ast001`	`yes you are right`
`11:07.08`	`Ast001`	`I won't disconect`
`11:07.12`	`Ast001`	`I dont need to`
`11:07.18`	`Ast001`	`I just did experiment`
`11:07.34`	`Ast001`	`but didn't see unreachable`
`11:07.39`	`Qwerty1979`	`he is dialing in to the internet thru the voip phone ;) j/k ;)`
`11:08.03`	`Qwerty1979`	`what does 'sip show peers' say ?`
`11:08.22`	`Ast001`	`unmonitored`
`11:08.24`	`Ast001`	`for all peers`
`11:08.47`	`Qwerty1979`	`did you reload the config after adding 'qualify' to the config file ?`
`11:08.52`	`Ast001`	`301/301 (Unspecified) D 0 UNKNOWN`
`11:08.53`	`Ast001`	`yes sip reload`
`11:09.28`	`Ast001`	`301/301 (Unspecified) D 0 UNKNOWN`
`11:09.28`	`Ast001`	`301/301 Unspecified D 0 UNKNOWN`
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`11:09.59`	`Ast001`	`status unknown for number where I added qualify=yes`
`11:10.08`	`Ast001`	`for others unspecified`
`11:11.06`	`Ast001`	`and * distribute to me a call during my phone did not have a power`
`11:11.54`	`Qwerty1979`	`did you try the 'windows' fix ? :) i.e. - restart asterisk ? :)`
`11:12.23`	`Ast001`	`well I didn't restart it after adding line to sip.conf`
`11:12.33`	`Ast001`	`i just did sip reload`
`11:15.00`	`Ast001`	`now I added qualify=yes to all definitions in sip.conf`
`11:15.06`	`Ast001`	`and did sip reload`
`11:15.28`	`Ast001`	`so I have ok and unknown in status of sip show peers`
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`11:20.07`	`adde`	`Hi, anyone using Festival who could please give em a hand....?`
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`11:41.32`	`bartpbx`	`hello`
`11:41.41`	`bartpbx`	`@ast001 how was your test?`
`11:42.30`	`Ast001`	`i still hang`
`11:42.50`	`Ast001`	`when I pull out power cord I am hanging on system as agent who can recieve calls`
`11:43.04`	`Ast001`	`and * deliver calls to me`
`11:43.12`	`Ast001`	`and caller can hear silence`
`11:43.24`	`Ast001`	`because I can not answer the call`
`11:43.56`	`bartpbx`	`what does the cli say?`
`11:43.58`	`Ast001`	`so I am not logged out automaticly despite qualify=tes`
`11:44.08`	`Ast001`	`cli`
`11:44.16`	`Ast001`	`said everything normal like usuall`
`11:44.23`	`Ast001`	`noop`
`11:44.24`	`Ast001`	`wait`
`11:44.27`	`Ast001`	`answer`
`11:44.32`	`Ast001`	`calling agent/21`
`11:44.35`	`Ast001`	`etc...`
`11:44.41`	`Ast001`	`until caller hang up`
`11:45.38`	`Ast001`	`I have feeling thousends of callers are talking bad words on me :) lol`
`11:45.38`	`bartpbx`	`i mean if you pull out power cord`
`11:45.38`	`bartpbx`	`what das an sip show peer say`
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`11:47.54`	`Ast001`	`nothing`
`11:47.59`	`Ast001`	`sip show peers`
`11:48.02`	`Ast001`	`status unknown`
`11:48.11`	`bartpbx`	`than the peer is not qulified`
`11:48.28`	`bartpbx`	`have you made a reload after adding qualify=yes to the peer?`
`11:49.16`	`Ast001`	`yes few times`
`11:49.23`	`Ast001`	`and it said parsing ok....`
`11:50.25`	`Ast001`	`it is strange that I have status unknown when I am conected`
`11:50.42`	`Ast001`	`sip show peers gives me status unknown and grandstream is connected`
`11:52.20`	`Ast001`	`and I am connected as agent 1`
`11:52.38`	`Ast001`	`now I disconected the power cord`
`11:52.48`	`Ast001`	`and I am still connected as agent 1`
`11:52.52`	`Ast001`	`that is the problem`
`11:53.07`	`Ast001`	`and cli does not say anything`
`11:53.17`	`Ast001`	`and sip show peers`
`11:53.43`	`Ast001`	`said 301/301 Unspecified 0 nothing nothing UNKNOWN`
`11:54.05`	`Ast001`	`Name 301`
`11:54.10`	`Ast001`	`Host Unspecified`
`11:54.16`	`Ast001`	`Dyn D`
`11:54.22`	`Ast001`	`NAT ACL Nothing`
`11:54.29`	`Ast001`	`Port 0 ?!`
`11:54.36`	`Ast001`	`Status Unknown`
`11:54.52`	`adde`	`anyone running festival?`
`11:55.09`	`Ast001`	`[301]`
`11:55.12`	`Ast001`	`type=friend`
`11:55.15`	`Ast001`	`username=301`
`11:55.20`	`Ast001`	`secret=pass`
`11:55.23`	`Ast001`	`context=agent`
`11:55.26`	`Ast001`	`host=dynamic`
`11:55.29`	`Ast001`	`nat=no`
`11:55.32`	`Ast001`	`disallow=all`
`11:55.36`	`Ast001`	`allow=ulaw`
`11:55.42`	`Ast001`	`dtmfmode=rfc2833`
`11:55.46`	`Ast001`	`qualify=yes`
`11:56.00`	`Ast001`	`thats my sip.conf for 301`
`11:56.19`	`bartpbx`	`sorry, but i cant help you with that. I'm not using queues`
`11:56.43`	`Ast001`	`can you tell me how your agents answer calls`
`11:56.44`	`bartpbx`	`you shuld see somethin like "status : OK (36ms)`
`11:56.53`	`bartpbx`	`I dont have agents`
`11:57.01`	`Ast001`	`no ?`
`11:57.09`	`Ast001`	`do you have call center ?`
`11:57.14`	`bartpbx`	`no :-)`
`11:57.38`	`Ast001`	`maybe if agent's phones ring maybe its better`
`11:57.45`	`Ast001`	`than automaticly deliver calls`
`11:57.54`	`JT`	`Ast001: stop that`
`11:57.55`	`Ast001`	`in queues`
`11:58.01`	`JT`	`use pastebin.ca`
`11:58.10`	`JT`	`pasting => 3 lines to channel bad`
`11:58.11`	`Ast001`	`pastebin.ca ?`
`11:59.47`	`Ast001`	`I see`
`11:59.55`	`JT`	`~pb`
`11:59.56`	`jbot`	`pb is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste`
`12:02.08`	`Ast001`	`well when I log in via XLite i see status OK`
`12:02.16`	`Ast001`	`that Grandstream is problem i guess`
`12:02.48`	`JT`	`grandstreams are pretty crap`
`12:02.54`	`Ast001`	`I agree`
`12:02.55`	`JT`	`but registration timeouts might work`
`12:06.27`	`Ast001`	`now when i turn on sip registration i see status ok (5ms)`
`12:08.10`	`adde`	`i runb festival and asterisk...when i make a call to the extension to execute festival speech i get:`
`12:08.13`	`adde`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.13`	`adde`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.13`	`adde`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:08.13`	`adde`	`pbx*CLI>`
`12:08.23`	`adde`	`and nothing else happens`
`12:08.25`	`Ast001`	`Peer '301' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 5`
`12:08.47`	`Ast001`	`but Agent/1 is still logged in`
`12:12.51`	`Cybertoy`	`I'm not sure that using qualify in sip.conf automatically logs off agents if they become unreachable.`
`12:14.51`	`Cybertoy`	`but you could set your autologoff in the agents.conf to something very low so that the agent get automatically logged off when he doesn't answer the call`
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`12:37.37`	`adde`	`can it make any difference in function if i install a software in /root instead of usr/src ?`
`12:39.12`	`Ast001`	`but Cybertoy`
`12:39.22`	`mosty`	`install software in /usr/local/`
`12:39.25`	`Ast001`	`when Agent is logged in`
`12:39.43`	`Ast001`	`he answers call automaticly`
`12:39.51`	`Ast001`	`* calls him when call come`
`12:40.03`	`adde`	`mosty: does it make any difference? iv already installe dmy asterisk in root :S`
`12:40.05`	`Ast001`	`se he will always answer the call`
`12:41.00`	`Ast001`	`reachable or not`
`12:41.00`	`mosty`	`adde: only root can access /root generally`
`12:41.00`	`Ast001`	`but I'll try that I'll set than option on 1`
`12:41.59`	`adde`	`To uninstall Asterisk is it just to delete directory?`
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`12:43.43`	`Cybertoy`	`ast001, how can agent answer the call when he's unreachable?`
`12:44.20`	`Ast001`	`bacause asterisk thinks he is logged in`
`12:45.00`	`Cybertoy`	`ast001, but asterisk will try Dial his line and when the agent is not reachable he can't answer`
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`12:45.20`	`adde`	`how do i reinstall asterisk in a new folder without screwing up system...`
`12:45.49`	`Cybertoy`	`Ast001, I'd have to try it out...`
`12:45.59`	`Cybertoy`	`ast001, my agents are all registered with agentcallbacklogin...`
`12:46.11`	`Ast001`	`yes and`
`12:46.17`	`Ast001`	`what if someone from them lose power`
`12:46.29`	`Ast001`	`can * automaticly logout them`
`12:46.39`	`Ast001`	`or you need logoff agent agent/1`
`12:47.06`	`Cybertoy`	`ast001, then when asterisk tries to dial out to them and there's no answer it will log them off after the amount of seconds specified in autologoff`
`12:47.31`	`Ast001`	`is it only in agengcallbacklogin`
`12:47.39`	`Ast001`	`or i can use that in agentlogin`
`12:47.44`	`Cybertoy`	`no... that should be for any agent`
`12:48.18`	`Ast001`	`my agents are logged in my agents are logged in with agentlogin`
`12:48.55`	`Ast001`	`thanks for hint :) I'll try to change dialplan so I could use agentcallbacklogin`
`12:51.30`	`Ast001`	`brb`
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`13:06.04`	`adde`	`why do i get this:`
`13:06.05`	`adde`	`pbx:/usr/src/asterisk-1.4.1# make mpg123`
`13:06.05`	`adde`	make: *** No rule to make target `mpg123'. Stop.
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`13:12.51`	`friedrich\|`	`__load_resource: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_sip.so: undefined symbol: ast_park_call <- what am I doing wrong?`
`13:12.57`	`friedrich\|`	`Which modules are needed?`
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`13:22.15`	`mgbowman`	`I'm having some issues with an s101i IAXy ATA`
`13:22.27`	`mgbowman`	`it looks like the adapter is trying to "re-register" every 0 seconds`
`13:22.33`	`mgbowman`	`Mar 18 16:18:28 NOTICE[147463]: chan_iax2.c:4928 update_registry: Restricting registration for peer 'matthew' to 60 seconds (requested 0)`
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`13:27.27`	`mgbowman`	`why is it trying to request registration for 0`
`13:27.27`	`mgbowman`	`??`
`13:27.45`	`Ast001`	`Cybertboy`
`13:28.03`	`Ast001`	`I tried but * called agent 1 dispite he was sip unreachable`
`13:28.25`	`Ast001`	`and caller has got silcence like noone is on the other side`
`13:28.58`	`Ast001`	`like operater is not speaking . Whata a bad situation`
`13:35.23`	`Cybertoy`	`hmm`
`13:36.41`	`Ast001`	`I've read that AgentCallBackLogin is depracted and will be removed in future realases`
`13:37.01`	`Ast001`	`and advice to use dialplan logic to achive the same functionality`
`13:37.17`	`Cybertoy`	`yeah.. somewhere I've seen that, too...`
`13:37.51`	`mgbowman`	`is there anyway to make the "automon" feature "dispatch" the recording once the call is complete?`
`13:38.01`	`mgbowman`	`i.e. via email?`
`13:38.08`	`Ast001`	`now I am learning that from doc`
`13:38.11`	`Ast001`	`brb`
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`13:39.34`	`avn`	`hello all`
`13:40.10`	`avn`	`Please help me, what mean meaasge "chan_iax2.c:2874 auto_congest: Auto-congesting call due to slow response"`
`13:40.26`	`mgbowman`	`it's not responding in time`
`13:40.45`	`Strom_M`	`it means the other side wants you to buy it a beer`
`13:40.46`	`mgbowman`	`aka the dialed extensions is not-reachable so it's auto-congesting the call (aka sending the busy signal)`
`13:41.07`	`Strom_M`	`no, a busy signal doesnt indicate circuit congestion`
`13:41.13`	`Strom_M`	`it sends a reorder`
`13:41.29`	`Strom_M`	`busy signal indicates that the called party is actually busy`
`13:41.55`	`drray`	`fast busy is re-order`
`13:42.30`	`drray`	`assuming you actualy get one, some just drop the call`
`13:42.51`	`avn`	`yep`
`13:43.20`	`avn`	`I try to direct call via my home asterisk, to another asterisk on other end of tunnel.`
`13:44.04`	`avn`	`It's result of latency in tunnel?`
`13:44.47`	`avn`	`can IAX2-over-NAT give best result?`
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`13:45.30`	`mgbowman`	`instead of using the automon feature, couldn't i setup to actually execute the Monitor cmd before dialing the extension and after the call is ended use an AGI script to email the sound byte?`
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`13:57.15`	`mgbowman`	`okay, here's probably an easy question`
`13:57.40`	`mgbowman`	`after a Dial command, I'm trying to set it up so that I can check the value of DIALSTATUS and start Monitoring the channel was the call was answered`
`13:57.59`	`mgbowman`	`however, I have NoOp and it's never hitting that line once the call is answered`
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`14:00.08`	`tonyb2006`	`Hello`
`14:00.19`	`tonyb2006`	`I'm trying to compile asterisk with Zaptel`
`14:00.24`	`tonyb2006`	`I compiled and installed zaptel`
`14:00.32`	`tonyb2006`	`and yet in make menuselect it says`
`14:00.38`	`tonyb2006`	`Generic Zaptel Transcoder Codec Translator Depends on: zaptel_transcode(E), zaptel(E)`
`14:01.11`	`adde`	`mgbowman: I have installed patch and everthing... but i dont get any response... from Festival...`
`14:02.57`	`adde`	`bowman: http://www.pastebin.ca/400112 , you gopt any clue what ive done wrong?`
`14:07.38`	`avn`	`Anyone can give me adivce -- how solve trouble with slow-congestion?`
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`14:13.53`	`mgbowman`	`are both sides of the tunnel authenticating`
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`14:14.07`	`mgbowman`	`i had a similar setup as you once and had the same issue and it was the authenticating`
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`14:17.51`	`avn`	`mgbowman: I set up IAX2 link over IP tunnel (vtun in tcp mode) -- may be it too slow?`
`14:18.25`	`avn`	`Yep`
`14:18.35`	`avn`	`Seems like a firewall problem`
`14:18.45`	`mgbowman`	`I've had it working no problem through an SSL tunnel (OpenVPN)`
`14:18.54`	`mgbowman`	`using an * box in the US and one in EU`
`14:19.02`	`mgbowman`	`I highly doubt your issues are tunnel latency`
`14:19.06`	`florz`	`OpenVPN is not an SSL tunnel`
`14:19.18`	`mgbowman`	`how not?`
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`14:19.24`	`florz`	`at all not`
`14:19.48`	`mgbowman`	`"An Open Source SSL VPN solution"`
`14:19.57`	`florz`	`Uh?`
`14:20.02`	`mgbowman`	`it's user-space`
`14:20.29`	`florz`	`mgbowman: Where you got that phrase from?`
`14:20.39`	`mgbowman`	`the title of openvpn.net`
`14:21.24`	`mgbowman`	`it's layer-2 or 3 (depending on your configuration)`
`14:21.30`	`mgbowman`	`using SSL/TLS`
`14:21.40`	`Sweeper`	`pfft, real men use SSH tunnels`
`14:21.52`	`florz`	`mgbowman: Yeah, I know, but it uses SSL for key management only, not for the actual payload. They can't use SSL for the payload as that would not allow out-of-order delivery and dropped packets`
`14:22.12`	`__tobi_`	`real men use ipsec ;-)`
`14:22.22`	`mgbowman`	`you can use it over TCP`
`14:22.25`	`mgbowman`	`default is UDP`
`14:22.34`	`mgbowman`	`yes, IPsec is a bit better`
`14:22.42`	`mgbowman`	`considering it encrypts the entire IP payload`
`14:22.51`	`Sweeper`	`so does ssh :P`
`14:22.54`	`avn`	`mgbowman: I use TCP -- it look more stable with NAT on some bad ISP`
`14:23.03`	`florz`	`Uh? How does OpenVPN not encrypt the entire payload?`
`14:23.07`	`mgbowman`	`ssh doesn't not encrypt IP payload`
`14:23.17`	`mgbowman`	`i can dump SSH traffic and clearly see it's TCP port 22`
`14:23.19`	`mgbowman`	`with IPsec`
`14:23.30`	`mgbowman`	`you wouldn't have a clue if it's TCP or UDP and/or which port it's travelling over`
`14:23.36`	`mgbowman`	`ssh encrypts the TCP payload`
`14:23.43`	`Sweeper`	`uh`
`14:23.44`	`avn`	`mgbowman: latest OpenSSH contain simple vpn (based on vtun as I mean)`
`14:23.49`	`Sweeper`	`that's the connection`
`14:23.51`	`Sweeper`	`not the payload`
`14:23.56`	`florz`	`Well, but just as you can see with SSH that it's SSH, you can see with IPsec that it's IPsec, so what's the difference?`
`14:24.10`	`mgbowman`	`you can't see what application the data is for`
`14:24.15`	`mgbowman`	`you know it's IP and it's encrypted`
`14:24.16`	`mgbowman`	`that's it`
`14:24.20`	`Sweeper`	`so?`
`14:24.24`	`mgbowman`	`it's more secure`
`14:24.25`	`florz`	`You can't with ssh, either, except via traffic analysis.`
`14:24.26`	`Sweeper`	`lolz run ssh on another port`
`14:24.28`	`Sweeper`	`no, it's not`
`14:24.34`	`mgbowman`	`less information is given out`
`14:24.38`	`Sweeper`	`dirty lies`
`14:24.49`	`mgbowman`	`florz, you can't see the data of course`
`14:24.56`	`mgbowman`	`but you can tell by the packet it's destined for port 22`
`14:25.02`	`mgbowman`	`with ipsec, the port is also encrypted`
`14:25.14`	`mgbowman`	`it's one layer down`
`14:25.14`	`florz`	`mgbowman: Sure, but tell me any VPN where you can't see that it's that kind of VPN?`
`14:25.40`	`mgbowman`	`i am not arguing you can't`
`14:25.49`	`mgbowman`	`i'm simply stating that more of the packet is encrypted with IPsec`
`14:25.53`	`mgbowman`	`(at a lower layer)`
`14:26.13`	`florz`	`no, it's not, it's just less unencrypted, not more encrypted`
`14:26.52`	`mgbowman`	`like the glass is more empty than less full`
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`14:26.55`	`mgbowman`	`of vice-versa`
`14:26.58`	`mgbowman`	`*or`
`14:26.59`	`florz`	`no, not at all`
`14:27.05`	`avn`	`Heh after resolve firewqall issues -- connection set up, but does not work`
`14:27.29`	`mgbowman`	`guys, i'm not arguing which solution is better, which is more encrypted or less encrypted`
`14:27.41`	`mgbowman`	`i'm simply stating that with IPsec you can see the IP destination and that's it`
`14:27.42`	`florz`	`with ssh you are simply adding another unencrypted layer, but that doesn't change anything about the payload that's encrypted inside`
`14:28.09`	`mgbowman`	`with a higher layer protocol you can also tell the type of packet (TCP/UDP) and the port # at the destination on which the applicatoin is receiving data`
`14:28.52`	`florz`	`with ssh you can see which destination port a tunneled datagram is addressed to as little as you can with IPsec`
`14:29.19`	`mgbowman`	`you're right`
`14:29.30`	`mgbowman`	`i give you an example`
`14:29.33`	`mgbowman`	`i'm using openvpn`
`14:29.37`	`mgbowman`	`default port is 1194`
`14:29.50`	`mgbowman`	`dumping traffic I can see encrypted payloads destined for UDP port 1194`
`14:30.05`	`mgbowman`	`I can't tell what type of data is inside (or the tunneled packet)`
`14:30.21`	`florz`	`given that you configured an actual cipher =:-)`
`14:30.23`	`mgbowman`	`but I know the wrapping solution is more than likely OpenVPN (if it's still using the default port)`
`14:31.06`	`mgbowman`	`you can go round-and-round about security implementations`
`14:31.12`	`mgbowman`	`nothing is 100% secure regardless`
`14:31.20`	`mgbowman`	`"different strokes for different folks"`
`14:31.32`	`mgbowman`	`using one solution over another depends on your needs`
`14:32.02`	`mgbowman`	`I choose openvpn because I'm utilizing OpenWRT on a bunch of spare linksys WRTs and configuring IPsec is a bit more time consuming`
`14:32.19`	`mgbowman`	`openvpn get's the job done for my home network to connect to my corporate network`
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`14:34.21`	`__tobi_`	`if ok i will ask a asterisk-related-question ;-)`
`14:34.27`	`mgbowman`	`Ha Ha Ha`
`14:34.30`	`__tobi_`	`i have 3 hfc-s cards in my *`
`14:34.31`	`mgbowman`	`sorry for the speal`
`14:34.40`	`__tobi_`	`;-)`
`14:34.44`	`florz`	`__tobi_: nooooooooooo!`
`14:34.47`	`florz`	`not asterisk!`
`14:34.50`	`__tobi_`	`all of them are in nt-mode`
`14:34.51`	`dj-fu`	`please no, not another asterisk question`
`14:34.52`	`florz`	`that makes my head hurt!`
`14:34.57`	`__tobi_`	`ok, i am very sorry ;-)`
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`14:35.11`	`florz`	`=:-)`
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`14:35.22`	`dj-fu`	`ho-hum.`
`14:35.25`	`dj-fu`	`ask your question`
`14:35.27`	`dj-fu`	`make it a oneliner`
`14:35.36`	`dj-fu`	`if you can't say it on one line, you're asking the wrong question.`
`14:35.46`	`__tobi_`	`when i fire up cat /proc/zaptel/2 i get a Span 2: ZTHFC1 "HFC-S PCI A ISDN card 0 [NT] layer 1 DEACTIVATED (G2)" AMI/CCS`
`14:35.59`	`__tobi_`	`but there is somtehing connected to it`
`14:36.27`	`florz`	`__tobi_: The line to the something is terminated properly?`
`14:36.29`	`__tobi_`	`and another card says activated, which had a tel connected some minutes before, which is now on span 2`
`14:36.45`	`__tobi_`	`jap, there is a nt1`
`14:36.52`	`__tobi_`	`on the line`
`14:36.56`	`__tobi_`	`with active termination`
`14:37.18`	`__tobi_`	`do i have to reload the modules to get the cards recognizing their state?`
`14:37.28`	`florz`	`__tobi_: But in principle you need termination at both endpoints of the bus.`
`14:37.29`	`mgbowman`	`I too have an * related ?`
`14:38.04`	`__tobi_`	`well, the connection worked on one if those cards`
`14:38.09`	`mgbowman`	`I have Dial(SIP/${EXTEN},30,rg) <-- g for continuing in the dial plan after the "called" party hangs up`
`14:38.22`	`mgbowman`	`but if the calling party hangs up the execution doesn't continue`
`14:38.27`	`mgbowman`	`is there a way to do such?`
`14:40.00`	`florz`	`__tobi_: the general problem with termination is that it usually leads to intermittent problems if done incorrectly`
`14:40.00`	`__tobi_`	`ok`
`14:40.34`	`__tobi_`	`so i need one nt1 with termination and another termination on the cards?`
`14:40.54`	`florz`	`__tobi_: but generally you shouldn't need to reload the driver in order for the card to get working once the bus is OK`
`14:41.00`	`__tobi_`	`or one term on the nt1 and another one at the end of the bus, i.e. the wallplug?`
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`14:41.24`	`__tobi_`	`ok, then i will search for a perhaps existing termination-problem ;-)`
`14:41.25`	`__tobi_`	`thx`
`14:41.42`	`florz`	`__tobi_: You don't need an NT1 at all, as far as termination is concerned, you just need termination on both endpoints of the bus`
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`14:42.11`	`__tobi_`	`can a hfc-card be a termination-point?`
`14:42.17`	`florz`	`__tobi_: That basically means "at the two points the farthes away from each other", or at least close to it`
`14:42.41`	`florz`	`__tobi_: If you do solder some termination resistors onto it :-)`
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`14:42.54`	`__tobi_`	`;-) ok, then not ;-)`
`14:43.20`	`florz`	`__tobi_: You basically need 1 100 Ohm resistor per pair and end of the bus`
`14:43.29`	`mgbowman`	`no one can answer my ? :(`
`14:43.41`	`__tobi_`	`ok, that might be a problem atm`
`14:43.51`	`__tobi_`	`i will look for it, thank you`
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`14:44.37`	`florz`	`mgbowman: Erm, maybe you are looking for the h extension?`
`14:44.55`	`mgbowman`	`doesn't that allow hanging up by pressing *`
`14:45.01`	`mgbowman`	`Never ,\\ind`
`14:45.13`	`mgbowman`	`i'm ar-tarded`
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`15:03.43`	`avn`	`What's mean --- Channel 'IAX2/fake_user-4' unable to transfer?`
`15:08.34`	`e-ddie`	`no support for fake users`
`15:09.06`	`avn`	`e-ddie: I am replace real username with fake_user ;)`
`15:10.31`	`avn`	`And heared long tones in phone when this messages appeared`
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`15:26.09`	`adde`	`I just installed Festival. But can hardly make out what it says... is there better voices to get hold of for it?`
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`16:00.30`	`friedrich\|`	`Mar 18 18:47:08 WARNING[14550]: loader.c:499 load_modules: Loading module chan_sip.so failed!`
`16:00.36`	`friedrich\|`	`What am I doing wrong?`
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`16:04.29`	`SoftIce`	`hi does anyone use a sangoma card here`
`16:04.38`	`SoftIce`	`everything is working with these errors i'm getting`
`16:04.39`	`SoftIce`	`Mar 18 18:02:39 WARNING[566]: chan_zap.c:2438 pri_find_dchan: No D-channels available! Using Primary channel 16 as D-channel anyway!`
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`16:13.13`	`RoyK`	`SoftIce: have you told it what dchan to use?`
`16:13.33`	`RoyK`	`in wancfg`
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`16:14.50`	`SoftIce`	`it was all working untill i did an upgrade yet kept the configs`
`16:14.56`	`SoftIce`	`let me have a look and let you know`
`16:15.46`	`SoftIce`	`what issues can it cause RoyK?`
`16:16.00`	`RoyK`	`zap not working :P`
`16:16.07`	`SoftIce`	`if you don't have it set and it still uses the correct D channel yet it thinks its a primary channel`
`16:16.10`	`SoftIce`	`no zap is working`
`16:16.42`	`RoyK`	`you sure?`
`16:16.45`	`RoyK`	`sounds strange`
`16:17.34`	`SoftIce`	`yes, i'm sure :)`
`16:17.52`	`SoftIce`	`but its still using the correct channel as a D channels just thinking its a primary channel`
`16:18.01`	`SoftIce`	`Using Primary channel 16 as D-channel anyway!`
`16:18.05`	`SoftIce`	`yet, 16 is the correct D channel`
`16:18.37`	`SoftIce`	`RoyK: i cant seem to find where in wancfg you set the D channels?`
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`16:21.18`	`MrWup`	`hello!`
`16:22.07`	`MrWup`	`i want to install asterisk on windows 2003 server an i also want to run it with a fully featured SIP server. are there any freeware/opensource sip servers for windows which you would recommend?`
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`16:23.20`	`Strom_M`	`MrWup: you must really really like pain`
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`16:24.35`	`SoftIce`	`RoyK: im my zaptel.conf I have the correct D channels set`
`16:25.07`	`RoyK`	`SoftIce: what about firmware hdlc settings_`
`16:25.08`	`RoyK`	`?`
`16:25.18`	`RoyK`	`or are you using zaptel hdlc?`
`16:27.04`	`MrWup`	`Strom_M lol why?`
`16:27.07`	`MrWup`	`because of windows?`
`16:27.22`	`SoftIce`	`sorry, i'm not sure?`
`16:27.46`	`Strom_M`	`MrWup: primarily, yes`
`16:27.46`	`SoftIce`	`how would old firmware affect D channels?`
`16:27.52`	`RoyK`	`nonono....`
`16:27.56`	`MrWup`	`(im new to all of this) but all i know is that it must be run on windows (due to our server situation)`
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`16:28.06`	`ParaNoir`	`hey, can someone please tell me how to solve the unresolved symbol zt_receive error in the qozap module? already recompiled kernel, this problem is keeping me busy for about 36 hours now.....`
`16:28.07`	`RoyK`	`i'm just wondering if you do hdlc in zaptel or in firmware`
`16:28.49`	`florz`	`ParaNoir: Maybe you should be loading zaptel?`
`16:28.50`	`SoftIce`	`RoyK: how would I know?`
`16:29.18`	`ParaNoir`	`RoyK, how do you mean? i'll get this error when insmodding qozap.ko`
`16:29.46`	`SoftIce`	`span=1,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4`
`16:29.48`	`RoyK`	`ParaNoir: i've seen it before, but I don't remember what i did to remedy it`
`16:29.58`	`RoyK`	`SoftIce: it's not zaptel config I'm talkng about`
`16:29.59`	`MrWup`	`but even for linux... which SIP server would you recommend? would you say asterisk + a SIP server is the way to go?`
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`16:30.11`	`SoftIce`	`ParaNoir: rmmod zaphfc`
`16:30.11`	`Strom_M`	`MrWup: it depends on your needs`
`16:30.12`	`ParaNoir`	`wtf`
`16:30.13`	`RoyK`	`run 'wanrouter stop', then 'wancfg'`
`16:30.15`	`ParaNoir`	`your awesome`
`16:30.18`	`ParaNoir`	`NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO`
`16:30.21`	`Strom_M`	`what do you need "a sip server" for?`
`16:30.28`	`ParaNoir`	`It fucking works!`
`16:30.29`	`ParaNoir`	`Why?`
`16:30.29`	`SoftIce`	`rmmod ztdummy rmmod zaptel`
`16:30.32`	`ParaNoir`	`fuck fuck fuck`
`16:30.38`	`ParaNoir`	`36 hours for nothing/....`
`16:30.42`	`ParaNoir`	`recompiled kernel`
`16:30.44`	`ParaNoir`	`everything`
`16:30.46`	`ParaNoir`	`fuck fuck fuck`
`16:30.48`	`MrWup`	`well, basically advanced call handling. like voicemail, queues, atuo callbacks, customised button functions, statistics gathering`
`16:30.49`	`MrWup`	`recording`
`16:30.52`	`MrWup`	`monitoring etc etc`
`16:30.55`	`TheSov`	`ahh channel flood`
`16:31.00`	`Strom_M`	`MrWup: asterisk can do all of that...`
`16:31.34`	`SoftIce`	`then, what you need to do is modprobe zaphfc`
`16:31.34`	`SoftIce`	`and then try ztcfg -s ztcfg -vv`
`16:31.34`	`SoftIce`	`and see if that works`
`16:31.34`	`SoftIce`	`err, sorry you not using zaphfc, but then re-mod probe your device`
`16:31.34`	`SoftIce`	`ive had issues when trying to modprobe on boot`
`16:31.40`	`SoftIce`	`ParaNoir: working ?`
`16:31.42`	`MrWup`	`can asterisk, for example, execute a php script if a user presses a programmed button during a call?`
`16:31.53`	`Strom_M`	`MrWup: yes, if you configure it to do s`
`16:31.56`	`Strom_M`	`so`
`16:31.57`	`MrWup`	`hmm`
`16:32.01`	`MrWup`	`seems pretty powerful then`
`16:32.05`	`TheSov`	`would anyone know how i would setup a random selection of registrations for a pool outbound calls?`
`16:32.05`	`MrWup`	`to link other things into it`
`16:33.31`	`MrWup`	`and as for scripting? does it have its own language for doing lots of advanced things?`
`16:33.39`	`Strom_M`	`yes`
`16:33.46`	`Strom_M`	`you should read the asterisk boo`
`16:33.48`	`Strom_M`	`er, book`
`16:33.51`	`Strom_M`	`~book`
`16:33.56`	`jbot`	`from memory, book is a book called Asterisk: The Future of Telephony which is found at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=11`
`16:33.56`	`MrWup`	`i am at the moment`
`16:34.22`	`MrWup`	`but i got side tracked because i read about how i should really use asterisk + a "fully featured SIP server"`
`16:34.33`	`Strom_M`	`under certain conditions`
`16:34.41`	`Strom_M`	`but most of the time you don't.`
`16:34.53`	`MrWup`	`when do you think an additional sip server would really become necessary?`
`16:35.20`	`Strom_M`	`it depends.`
`16:35.26`	`Strom_M`	`what are you using asterisk for?`
`16:36.25`	`MrWup`	`well, i plan to get a card with 4 fxo slots plug the server into the PSTN system, then plug it into a switch, connect all the office IP phones to the switch and then allow calls to be made to the outside world and vice versa`
`16:36.49`	`Strom_M`	`how many phones inside the office?`
`16:37.04`	`MrWup`	`and build in call monitoring, stats, queues, autocallback, and some funky stuff like automated quotations`
`16:37.10`	`TheSov`	`it would be easier to get a voip provider and do voip to voip, it would be cheaper than 4 pots lins`
`16:37.12`	`MrWup`	`(presumably done by some sort of script)`
`16:37.22`	`MrWup`	`20 phones in office`
`16:37.32`	`Strom_M`	`you don't need a separate SIP server for that,`
`16:37.42`	`MrWup`	`TheSov we got a really good deal with normal phone provider and would like to keep our old number`
`16:37.53`	`MrWup`	`Strom_M ok`
`16:38.04`	`Strom_M`	`also, if you want to use a hardware card, there's no way in hell you'll run windows :)`
`16:38.13`	`Strom_M`	`the available cards only run under linux / unix`
`16:38.19`	`MrWup`	`oh`
`16:38.30`	`MrWup`	`doh lol`
`16:38.50`	`TheSov`	`im setting up a voip to voip system now, im having limited success with the IVR`
`16:39.00`	`MrWup`	`i was looking at this digium TDM04B with 4x FXO`
`16:39.06`	`TheSov`	`the voip-info.org tutorial is a bit dated`
`16:39.08`	`MrWup`	`had just assumed it would run on any OS`
`16:39.37`	`Strom_M`	`MrWup: nope. linux only for that card.`
`16:39.51`	`MrWup`	`damn`
`16:40.13`	`MrWup`	`well at least ive overted one big mistake already lol`
`16:40.15`	`MrWup`	`thanks`
`16:40.31`	`Strom_M`	`why not just run linux?`
`16:40.46`	`MrWup`	`im a complete linux noob`
`16:40.46`	`TheSov`	`seriously linux is so much easier than windows`
`16:41.05`	`TheSov`	`no registry or dll hell to worry about`
`16:41.06`	`MrWup`	`i suppose i could`
`16:41.19`	`MrWup`	`just take longer to learn how and set up the system i guess`
`16:41.26`	`MrWup`	`or if u guys are right windows could be hell too`
`16:42.03`	`TheSov`	`its actually pretty ez to setup asterisk on a fresh linux box, its like 4 lines of typeing and a couple hours worth of editing conf files in /etc/asterisk`
`16:42.38`	`MrWup`	`which flavour of linux would u recommend?`
`16:42.42`	`TheSov`	`slack`
`16:42.54`	`Strom_M`	`whichever you're most comfortable with`
`16:43.03`	`Strom_M`	`slackware is kind of daunting for a new user`
`16:43.22`	`Strom_M`	`debian is easyish to use because of apt-get`
`16:44.01`	`TheSov`	`if ur gonna teach someone to swim, best to just throw them in the pool`
`16:44.02`	`MrWup`	`lol`
`16:44.02`	`TheSov`	`it can only get easier from their right?`
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`16:44.20`	`Strom_M`	`there's a difference between that and throwing them into a pool infested with pirhanas and flesh eating bacteria`
`16:44.47`	`TheSov`	`i c your point`
`16:45.36`	`TheSov`	`well mandriva pretty ez to use`
`16:45.47`	`MrWup`	`well im up for the challenge`
`16:45.56`	`MrWup`	`if slakware gets me the most respect i may as well lol`
`16:46.12`	`Strom_M`	`ah, slackware...all the best 1997 has to offer.`
`16:46.14`	`TheSov`	`it wont get u respect it will get u a couple of "why on earth..."`
`16:46.21`	`MrWup`	`lol`
`16:46.34`	`Strom_M`	`debian, centos, ubuntu server`
`16:46.40`	`MrWup`	`ah`
`16:46.41`	`Strom_M`	`those are my three recommendations`
`16:47.36`	`TheSov`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:48.33`	`TheSov`	`and slack is usually pretty safe right out the box`
`16:48.38`	`Strom_M`	`TheSov: it was a joke.`
`16:49.05`	`TheSov`	`ahh well its not the first time someone has told me that slackware is dated`
`16:50.10`	`TheSov`	`so would anyone know how to setup outbound calls to choose from a pool of voip registrations?`
`16:50.29`	`Strom_M`	`what do you mean "choose from a pool of voip registrations"?`
`16:51.09`	`TheSov`	`I have 2 voip registrations, each with 1 phone number attached, when i dial out i want the server to randomly choose one of them`
`16:51.25`	`TheSov`	`and if one is in use, to use the other`
`16:51.59`	`Strom_M`	`are these calls that you're placing from a telephone set and dialing directly, or are these calls which are being placed by the pbx itself?`
`16:52.10`	`TheSov`	`pbx directly`
`16:52.19`	`TheSov`	`canreinvite=no`
`16:52.35`	`Strom_M`	`so you're using call files?`
`16:52.49`	`TheSov`	`I dont know what you mean`
`16:53.01`	`Strom_M`	`is the pbx placing calls, or are you dialing calls?`
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`16:53.15`	`Strom_M`	`i.e. would this be happening if you were off in the kitchen preparing a meal`
`16:53.18`	`TheSov`	`I am dialing, but all the traffic flows thru the pbx`
`16:53.29`	`Strom_M`	`so ok, the pbx is not placing the calls on its own`
`16:53.32`	`Strom_M`	`you are dialing direct`
`16:53.34`	`Strom_M`	`durh`
`16:53.44`	`TheSov`	`I misunderstood the question`
`16:53.49`	`Strom_M`	`cocks.`
`16:54.37`	`Strom_M`	`there are multiple ways to have asterisk randomly select one outbound trunk from a group of trunks`
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`16:56.01`	`monstertruck`	`Hi`
`16:56.10`	`TheSov`	`hello`
`16:56.13`	`Strom_M`	`take a look at the Random() application`
`16:56.30`	`monstertruck`	`Is there anything special that needs to be added to zaptel.conf when trying to configure channels as ground start?`
`16:56.52`	`monstertruck`	`ztcfg doesnt seem to like fxsgs=1-4`
`16:57.12`	`Strom_M`	`monstertruck: what kind of hardware are you using, and are you configuring groundstart on fxo ports, or fxs ports`
`16:57.35`	`monstertruck`	`its a tdm400p with 4 fxo`
`16:57.46`	`monstertruck`	`its been in production for about a week with phone company A`
`16:57.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`monstertruck, Groundstart is only available on T1/E1 cards for use with channel banks, not on their analog cards (TDM400/X100P)`
`16:58.00`	`Strom_M`	`IIRC there's no way to do groundstart with that card`
`16:58.02`	`monstertruck`	`ah!`
`16:59.02`	`monstertruck`	`here is what happens, the server got moved to a callcenter, they have a computer sitting between the outside lines and the lines that are provided to the callcenter phones`
`16:59.25`	`monstertruck`	`and the server is sharing the lines with the phones`
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`16:59.45`	`monstertruck`	`but now the tdm wont dialout`
`17:00.14`	`monstertruck`	`and I have the suspicion the computer sitting in the middle is providing some sort of fake dialtone ..`
`17:00.33`	`Strom_M`	`what a clusterfuck.`
`17:00.48`	`MrWup`	`with asterisk can u send a short bit of text to a grandstream phone that has an LCD display which says something simple like "External Call" or "Internal Call" or "Mike Calling"`
`17:00.49`	`MrWup`	`?`
`17:01.09`	`monstertruck`	`yeah, nothing I can do about it though .. need to find a solution to make it work with that setup`
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`17:02.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MrWup, Sure, just add it to the callerID when passing a call to that device.`
`17:02.41`	`MrWup`	`cool`
`17:03.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MrWup, Set(CALLERID(name)=External:${CALLERID(name})`
`17:04.34`	`ParaNoir`	`Hey, can someone tell me whats going on with zap here?: bri_cpe_ptmp`
`17:04.34`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: wanna buy me this? :p http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822146226`
`17:04.48`	`ParaNoir`	`Hey, can someone tell me whats going on with zap here?: http://pastebin.ca/400331`
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`17:05.40`	`vooduhal`	`Does 1.2.x have any type of STUN support?`
`17:09.26`	`Strom_M`	`what problem are you trying to solve?`
`17:10.37`	`ParaNoir`	`Strom_M: Are you talking to me?`
`17:11.21`	`vooduhal`	`Development * box running on a VM that needs to connect to voicepulses servers while I'm at a coffee shop that I have no control over NAT/port forwards.`
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`17:12.22`	`Strom_M`	`vooduhal: i suggest you leave your dev box at home and set up an iax trunk from your laptop in the coffeeshop :)`
`17:13.07`	`vooduhal`	`Well, that would be a solution.`
`17:13.26`	`vooduhal`	`So, I'll take that as a no to STUN support? :)`
`17:13.33`	`Strom_M`	`none that I'm aware of`
`17:13.37`	`Strom_M`	`are you in nashville?`
`17:14.01`	`vooduhal`	`Chattanooga.`
`17:14.04`	`Strom_M`	`ah, ok`
`17:14.11`	`vooduhal`	`In the area? :)`
`17:14.19`	`Strom_M`	`i was in nashville yesterday`
`17:14.22`	`vooduhal`	`Ah...`
`17:14.27`	`vooduhal`	`You are in LV correct?`
`17:14.29`	`Strom_M`	`back in huntsville now`
`17:14.32`	`vooduhal`	`Oh.`
`17:14.43`	`vooduhal`	`I thought you lived on the west coast.`
`17:14.44`	`Strom_M`	`LV? no...moved out from las vegas three years ago`
`17:14.47`	`Strom_M`	`i live in los angeles now`
`17:14.48`	`vooduhal`	`Ah. ok.`
`17:15.09`	`vooduhal`	`Whatcha doing in Huntsville? :)`
`17:15.13`	`vooduhal`	`Digium?`
`17:15.16`	`Strom_M`	`yep`
`17:15.18`	`vooduhal`	`Ah...`
`17:15.42`	`vooduhal`	`Working for them now? :)`
`17:15.59`	`Strom_M`	`contracting`
`17:16.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`qwell, Not particularly!`
`17:16.08`	`vooduhal`	`That works.`
`17:16.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`vooduhal, syour CLIENT needs STUN, not the server...`
`17:17.12`	`vooduhal`	`My server is the client.`
`17:17.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`vooduhal, Your server is behind a bad NAT?`
`17:17.34`	`vooduhal`	`I'm registering an * box to voicepulse.`
`17:18.17`	`vooduhal`	`Yep, and I guess I could have port forwarding control if I really wanted to, but I don't think I care that much.`
`17:18.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`vooduhal, You do, otherwise you're toast`
`17:19.23`	`vooduhal`	`Well, I'm glad you are condoning me break the router here. :)`
`17:20.53`	`Strom_M`	`or just use iax`
`17:21.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Strom_M, SHHH!!! Tell not the seek-rat!`
`17:21.50`	`Strom_M`	`oh`
`17:22.05`	`vooduhal`	`Lol.`
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`18:03.17`	`bkruse_home`	`anyone here messed with asterisk and realtime?`
`18:03.23`	`bkruse_home`	`ive done it, but not in a production envirnment`
`18:03.29`	`Qwell`	`yeah..`
`18:03.46`	`bkruse_home`	`Qwell: reliable? a good way to go?`
`18:04.05`	`Qwell`	`it adds a little overhead, but if you trust your database server, it's fine`
`18:04.23`	`bkruse_home`	`hmm.....and useful i suppose`
`18:04.36`	`bkruse_home`	`can it failover to flat files?`
`18:04.53`	`bkruse_home`	`that would be useful`
`18:04.59`	`Qwell`	`probably not`
`18:05.08`	`bkruse_home`	`hmmm, that would be useful`
`18:05.10`	`Qwell`	`not easily anyhow`
`18:07.32`	`mmartinn`	`I thought the configuration for realtime was like "section => mysql,odbc,file" so that it would try one, then the next, etc.`
`18:07.50`	`Qwell`	`mmartinn: That's realtime static`
`18:07.56`	`bkruse_home`	`right`
`18:08.09`	`bkruse_home`	`not realtime with update/changes in realtime`
`18:08.12`	`bkruse_home`	`which is super useful`
`18:08.14`	`mmartinn`	`I see`
`18:08.14`	`bkruse_home`	`i think`
`18:08.26`	`mmartinn`	`I was just messing with realtime on a VM yesterday, pretty new to me ;)`
`18:08.37`	`bkruse_home`	`mmartinn: working out well?`
`18:09.32`	`mmartinn`	`bkruse_home: I didn't get far; I couldn't convince * to connect to a local mysql instance 8-)`
`18:10.29`	`bkruse_home`	`lol`
`18:10.37`	`bkruse_home`	`i want to do realtime with ndb, see how it works out`
`18:10.44`	`bkruse_home`	`with clustering/load balancing, thats my next lil project`
`18:10.49`	`bkruse_home`	`i have to do some work stuff first ;]`
`18:10.55`	`mmartinn`	`I'm using Gentoo on the VM with the voip overlay, and I don't think the use flag that activates the mysql addon actually made it compile...`
`18:11.22`	`bkruse_home`	`just use asterisk-addons`
`18:12.36`	`SoftIce`	`bkruse_home: I use it in productive en`
`18:12.37`	`SoftIce`	`bkruse_home: I use it in productive env`
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`18:13.24`	`bkruse_home`	`SoftIce: how many people, and what all do you use, and what database`
`18:13.56`	`SoftIce`	`mysql db`
`18:13.57`	`bkruse_home`	`mmartinn: :]`
`18:13.59`	`SoftIce`	`6 boxes`
`18:14.01`	`bkruse_home`	`SoftIce: ndb?`
`18:14.09`	`SoftIce`	`ndb?`
`18:14.14`	`bkruse_home`	`!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`18:14.15`	`SoftIce`	`mysql`
`18:14.18`	`bkruse_home`	`i know..`
`18:14.22`	`bkruse_home`	`mysql's clustering engine`
`18:14.27`	`SoftIce`	`no clustering`
`18:14.29`	`SoftIce`	`dont see the reason`
`18:14.33`	`SoftIce`	`i have 8 drive raid 10`
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`18:14.39`	`SoftIce`	`everything is hot swoppabe`
`18:14.40`	`mmartinn`	`bkruse_home: I'm using Asterisk 1.4 from the voip overlay, and it appears there is no asterisk-addons there`
`18:14.49`	`bkruse_home`	`SoftIce: so.....clustering rocks :D`
`18:14.50`	`SoftIce`	`2 dual cores`
`18:14.52`	`SoftIce`	`8 gigs of ram`
`18:14.58`	`bkruse_home`	`SoftIce: if you dont mind me talking to you, ima msg you :D`
`18:14.59`	`mmartinn`	`I think we'd like to eventually use it in production for about 8 users`
`18:15.01`	`SoftIce`	`i doubt its needed :P`
`18:15.05`	`mmartinn`	`err 80 users*`
`18:15.36`	`bkruse_home`	`mmartinn: svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk-addons/trunk asterisk-addons ; cd asterisk-addons ; sh configure && make && make install`
`18:15.36`	`SoftIce`	`nice thing is on any box you can do a sip show users and it would show the registration on any 1 of the boxes`
`18:15.39`	`SoftIce`	`asterisk realtime rocks`
`18:16.26`	`mmartinn`	`bkruse_home: I'd probably just go make an ebuild of it :) I'm neurotic about having stuff built without informing the package manager :)`
`18:17.05`	`bkruse_home`	`mmartinn: haha, nice`
`18:17.27`	`SoftIce`	`source is so much better :)`
`18:17.28`	`mmartinn`	`but this 1.4.1 ebuild has a mysql use flag, so I expected that would build the addon I needed`
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`18:33.45`	`mmartinn`	`apparently this is my problem with realtime: WARNING[31684]: config.c:1241 find_engine: Realtime mapping for 'extensions' found to engine 'mysql', but the engine is not available`
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`18:46.05`	`adde`	`Anyone who has been able to get Festival sound good with Asterisk? Ive read there are ways but i havent succeeded, it sounds really shit. Any help appreciated...`
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`18:53.11`	`kink0`	`hello`
`18:54.08`	`kink0`	`about TE IRQ and zttest, I still unable to avoid some meassures as low as 99.93%`
`18:54.33`	`kink0`	`I follow all recomendations, but still the same. Even I try in other PC, the same. Any sugestion ?`
`18:54.58`	`bkruse_home`	`your not sharing irq's are u?`
`18:54.58`	`kink0`	`I see with about 30 calls, a CPU idle over 75%`
`18:55.17`	`kink0`	`bkruse_home, no, I am not sharing, even I move IRQ to the second CPU`
`18:57.00`	`kink0`	`the other things consuming IRQ are timer, eth0 and SCSI ( where TE405 has one CPU for the IRQ in use, dedicated )`
`18:57.50`	`kink0`	`has any influence PCI speed (133,66 or 33Mhz) ? has any influence FSB frequency ?`
`18:59.34`	`bkruse_home`	`what kind of box`
`18:59.35`	`bkruse_home`	`specs`
`19:00.13`	`kink0`	`is a supermicro dual Xeon 2.8/512 with 2G RAM, FSB533`
`19:00.30`	`kink0`	`SCSI 320, no RAID`
`19:01.04`	`kink0`	`6 hard drives ( separated in differents mount points /,/usr,/var,/tmp..)`
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`19:01.34`	`bkruse_home`	`hmm`
`19:01.40`	`kink0`	`actually HT is enabled, but I have try with and without HT`
`19:02.00`	`kink0`	`USB and other unnecesary things have been dissabled, some in BIOS and other are not compiled in kernel`
`19:02.47`	`kink0`	`zaptel is 1.4.0 , Asterisk 1.4.1`
`19:03.06`	`kink0`	`gcc 3.3.6`
`19:03.34`	`kink0`	`( also try it with gcc 4.1 , not noticiable )`
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`19:05.07`	`mmartinn`	`making progress: res_config_mysql.c:143 realtime_mysql: MySQL RealTime: Failed to query database. Check debug for more info.`
`19:05.09`	`kink0`	`really sound quality is good, but when over 40 simultaneus calls, then the worst zttest output goes as low as 99.60 and then is noticiable in sound, even CPU idle still over 50%`
`19:06.54`	`mmartinn`	`Woohoo; got it working :) Dialplan is in a database table.`
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`19:14.06`	`angryuser`	`P[ 0] Unhandled Mesage: prim fe682 len 0 from addr 43000201, dinfo 1000001 on this port , i got this on my misdn, adn i am unabe to pass or receive calls, any ideas (as1.4 zaptel 1.4)?`
`19:14.19`	`angryuser`	`*unable`
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`19:16.59`	`angryuser`	`i am using b410p cars`
`19:17.03`	`angryuser`	`card`
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`19:24.14`	`Chai_Sangeen`	`hello everybody.....`
`19:25.52`	`Chai_Sangeen`	`quick question, my asterisk server keep loosing registration with broadoice and axvoice, the only solution to make the server re-register is to reboot my router.... can anybody help`
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`19:31.31`	`duki`	`Hello`
`19:33.04`	`duki`	`when I try to connect to my voice mail at fwd, I have this message:`
`19:33.05`	`duki`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:33.08`	`duki`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:33.11`	`duki`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:33.23`	`duki`	`But I can call others services at fwd`
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`19:33.42`	`duki`	`What this could mean ?`
`19:33.42`	`SoftIce`	`read error`
`19:33.55`	`SoftIce`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:33.57`	`duki`	`Thank you`
`19:34.59`	`duki`	`the extension is correct`
`19:35.29`	`duki`	`I am using :exten => _393.,2,Dial(IAX2/${FWDNUMBER}:${FWDPASSWORD}@iax2.fwdnet.net/${EXTEN:3},60,r)`
`19:36.10`	`duki`	`here the number is the voicemail number (at fwd)`
`19:37.21`	`duki`	`but if I for example use another number (say time number), there is not problem.`
`19:57.15`	`bkw__`	`its really dumb to use your user/pass in the dial string`
`19:57.19`	`bkw__`	`it ends up in the CDR logs`
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`20:16.16`	`duki`	`bkw__: ok, I shall remove them from there`
`20:16.19`	`duki`	`thanks`
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`20:46.27`	`Cybertoy`	`anyone have chan_cellphone working?`
`20:46.38`	`Cybertoy`	`I can't pair... my phone always claims the pin is invalid`
`20:46.50`	`Cybertoy`	`probably more of a bluetooth problem instead of asterisk...`
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`21:06.40`	`bkruse_home`	`mog!`
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`21:10.12`	`DocHolliday`	`are most voip providers running asterisk? (since they allow IAX)`
`21:10.56`	`bkruse_home`	`if they allow iax, i bet they do`
`21:10.58`	`bkruse_home`	`1.4 at that`
`21:14.14`	`DocHolliday`	`bkruse_home, is it possible for them to support IAX on a non-asterisk platform?`
`21:15.01`	`clive-`	`you guys must be new...iax=asterisk`
`21:15.37`	`DocHolliday`	`clive-, not new.. just trying to gauge what most VoIP providers are using from an infrastructure standpoint`
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`21:17.03`	`Qwell`	`zoa: !`
`21:17.08`	`Qwell`	`zoa: wake up`
`21:17.13`	`Strom_M`	`ping`
`21:17.21`	`Qwell`	`dog balls`
`21:17.25`	`Strom_M`	`cat sex`
`21:17.47`	`Qwell`	`idefisk is broken :D`
`21:17.52`	`Strom_M`	`heh`
`21:18.16`	`DocHolliday`	`afternoon Qwell`
`21:18.21`	`Qwell`	`zoa: plz2be supporting vista in installer :P`
`21:18.26`	`bkruse_home`	`they COULD DocHolliday, if they wrote an iax server`
`21:18.38`	`bkruse_home`	`its a protocol, just like asterisk isnt the only program that supports sip`
`21:18.44`	`bkruse_home`	`but, i would bet its asterisk.`
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`21:33.56`	`DocHolliday`	`bkruse_home, how much processing power and ram do you think a provider requires per 100 simultaneous SIP G711 (IP to IP same codec) connections?`
`21:34.40`	`bkruse_home`	`not too much`
`21:34.57`	`bkruse_home`	`ive pushed 800+ on a dell 2950, dual cpu dual core`
`21:35.36`	`DocHolliday`	`with home much ram and what storage system ? (if you dont mind)`
`21:35.46`	`DocHolliday`	`*how :(`
`21:36.11`	`bkruse_home`	`4 gigs with dual 74 10,000 scsi drivers`
`21:36.15`	`bkruse_home`	`actually they might have been sata`
`21:36.49`	`DocHolliday`	`hehe, wow thats not a lot of hardware really :) (to facilitate that many customers)`
`21:37.45`	`DocHolliday`	`but when you start adding in IVRs, VoiceMail etc does your capacity drop fast?`
`21:37.45`	`bkruse_home`	`well, it was 800 sim calls, with playback vs playback`
`21:37.53`	`bkruse_home`	`exactly`
`21:37.59`	`bkruse_home`	`the best way is by test`
`21:38.04`	`bkruse_home`	`and you can tell your boxes stress, also`
`21:38.09`	`bkruse_home`	`just remember scalability.`
`21:38.46`	`DocHolliday`	`yeah scalability in the asterisk world means adding more boxes?`
`21:40.06`	`aydiosmio`	`or adding accelleration hardware`
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`21:41.05`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, i learn so much from you guys everyday :)`
`21:41.20`	`aydiosmio`	`yeah, this and #sql I find very helpful`
`21:44.46`	`uwe`	`how can i call a test call to an extension from the asterisk cli ?`
`21:44.58`	`uwe`	`can i do this is the first place ?`
`21:45.18`	`Strom_M`	`*CLI> Dial extension@context`
`21:46.42`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, what does one use by way of 'hardware acceleration'?`
`21:46.51`	`uwe`	`thank you Strom_M`
`21:47.33`	`aydiosmio`	`DocHolliday: http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/tc400b.php`
`21:47.53`	`uwe`	`Strom_M, im getting No such command 'Dial'`
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`21:54.48`	`DocHolliday`	`aydiosmio, it says here that this 'hardware accelerator' can do 96 transformations, how does one achieve higher capacity?`
`21:55.06`	`Qwell`	`DocHolliday: more cards`
`21:56.00`	`DocHolliday`	`jeez this is an expensive card :)`
`21:56.32`	`DocHolliday`	`Qwell so 96 transformations = 96 'calls / sessions'?`
`21:56.45`	`Qwell`	`channels`
`21:57.22`	`DocHolliday`	`gotcha, so is it more economical to buy a high powered server or to compensate with these 'hardware accelerators'?`
`21:57.57`	`Qwell`	`well, what's it gonna cost to buy a server that can do 96 channels, and how much is the licensing gonna cost?`
`21:58.04`	`Qwell`	`the answer to the latter is $960`
`21:59.15`	`Qwell`	`the math there is pretty easy, really`
`21:59.49`	`DocHolliday`	`i understand, well most providers are able to achieve a few hundred channels per server correct?`
`22:00.12`	`Qwell`	`something like that`
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`22:00.57`	`DocHolliday`	`understood, but it doesnt seem like most providers are doing G723 or G729 (mostly G711)?`
`22:02.27`	`Qwell`	`sure, if you've got the bandwidth - do g711`
`22:03.36`	`boch`	`is it possible to compile an application without the * src ?`
`22:04.03`	`Qwell`	`boch: You just need the headers`
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`22:05.01`	`aydiosmio`	`all our voip temrinations supoprt g729 and g711`
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`22:06.26`	`Qwell`	`Poll: Which should I watch? Matrix Revolutions, Office Space, or Dog the Bounty Hunter :D`
`22:07.02`	`Cybertoy`	`Office Space`
`22:07.13`	`chrisknight`	`Office Space, that 1 never gets old.`
`22:07.23`	`Qwell`	`I think Dog trumps those :P`
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`22:07.31`	`monstertruck`	`hi`
`22:07.52`	`monstertruck`	`is it normal that all leds on a tdm400 with 4 fxo light up with only one line conected?`
`22:08.07`	`monstertruck`	`or does it mean the card is fried?`
`22:08.56`	`chrisknight`	`Does anyone know how to factory reset a cisco 7960? Someone has set the network config password & I cant change anything... **# doesnot work, holding # while booting does not work. Entering password = cisco or Cisco does not work. Im stuck... Ive searched the web over & over.`
`22:10.21`	`chrisknight`	`I thought those flashed all LED's as part of the power on test... I think as you use a line it lights up & the others are dim.`
`22:10.48`	`chrisknight`	`Maybe a config or driver is screwed up`
`22:11.32`	`monstertruck`	`here is what happened though, it was in production as of two days ago`
`22:11.49`	`monstertruck`	`it got moved to a different location and connected to lines from a different phone company`
`22:12.04`	`monstertruck`	`and now its not dialing out`
`22:12.30`	`monstertruck`	`no changes except for some modifications to the dialplan`
`22:12.45`	`chrisknight`	`these are copper lines right from the CO?`
`22:13.13`	`monstertruck`	`no, they go through a "control device" about which I have no information`
`22:13.15`	`chrisknight`	`straight dial tone?`
`22:13.19`	`chrisknight`	`hmm..`
`22:13.28`	`monstertruck`	`im administering the server remotely, the server is in another country`
`22:13.53`	`chrisknight`	`oh...`
`22:14.03`	`chrisknight`	`maybe someone else can chime in here...`
`22:14.23`	`monstertruck`	`I thought the problem might be related to this "control device" not providing a real dial tone`
`22:14.31`	`chrisknight`	`that was my thought`
`22:14.37`	`monstertruck`	`so one line was connected directly from the CO`
`22:14.45`	`monstertruck`	`and it wont dial out on that line either`
`22:14.48`	`chrisknight`	`the "control device" was not in the circuit before?`
`22:15.00`	`monstertruck`	`no, it was connected straight to the CO before`
`22:15.47`	`monstertruck`	`it was also a different telco, but I dont think that would make a difference`
`22:15.48`	`chrisknight`	`whats the "control device"?`
`22:16.02`	`chrisknight`	`i dont think the telco would matter`
`22:16.14`	`chrisknight`	`wither the device or config problem...`
`22:16.17`	`monstertruck`	`heh, I would like to know too .. its a computer used to meter the calls`
`22:16.30`	`chrisknight`	`ah`
`22:16.54`	`chrisknight`	`brb... in the airport... gotta move`
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`22:33.57`	`uwe`	`hello, im having trouble debugging why my asterisk is not sending calls to extensions, the configurations are generated by freepbx, and the problem seems to be that dialparties.agi is not returning an extension number to call, how can i make sure that this is the fault of the agi scrip? how can i make asterisk initiate a call to an extension?`
`22:36.14`	`JT`	`uwe: this probably isn't the best place to ask`
`22:36.40`	`uwe`	`JT, how come ?`
`22:36.51`	`JT`	`~freepbx`
`22:36.52`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, freepbx is unable to be supported here. It's a complex piece of dialplan and GUI, and can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there`
`22:37.28`	`JT`	`because most people here aren't familiar with freepbx internals`
`22:38.02`	`uwe`	`JT, i asked there, and got a lot of help, but im trying to make asterisk initiate a call to an extension directly, without the interfierence of freepbx`
`22:38.15`	`uwe`	`or is that interfiernce un-avoidable ?`
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`22:38.21`	`uwe`	`i mean in my case`
`22:38.22`	`JT`	`sometimes`
`22:38.28`	`JT`	`what do you mean initiate a call?`
`22:38.53`	`uwe`	`i want to call an extension, a sip extension from asterisk cli`
`22:39.09`	`JT`	`why do you wish to do that?`
`22:40.16`	`uwe`	`to make sure asterisk is able to do so, and that there is no ugly bug/misconfiguration lets say in astdb (i just learned about the existance of that today :) )`
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`22:41.09`	`JT`	`why can't you use a phone to make a call?`
`22:41.42`	`flenders`	`uwe: try using call files`
`22:41.47`	`uwe`	`because it will use the dialplan and use dialparties.agi`
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`22:42.15`	`flenders`	`uwe: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+auto-dial+out`
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`22:42.50`	`uwe`	`flenders, thank you, checking that`
`22:42.59`	`vmlemon`	`Hi, does anyone know if it's possible to use Asterisk with videophones designed for use with PSTN networks an adaptor?`
`22:43.05`	`vmlemon`	`*and`
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`22:44.41`	`Daveb21`	`has anyone seen a Could not create channel on port error with misdn which causes outgoing calls to fail?`
`22:45.09`	`JT`	`i've seen a lot of errors on misdn, but that's not one of them`
`22:46.23`	`Daveb21`	`damn :( I cant get incoming or outgoing calls to work with the misdn - incoming calls just get no answer`
`22:47.03`	`JT`	`hrm`
`22:47.23`	`JT`	`i've always found misdn to be flaky, but it's probably just a misconfiguration`
`22:48.42`	`Daveb21`	`yeah i figured as much but I'm using configs from a post on whirlpool and the user has the same setup as us (B410P and Telstra ISDN)`
`22:49.10`	`JT`	`oh, haven't used one of those`
`22:49.14`	`JT`	`telstra isdn yes`
`22:49.20`	`JT`	`i have an 8 port BRI card`
`22:49.35`	`Daveb21`	`yeah I remember in a previous conversation we had that you recommended the junghanns card`
`22:50.02`	`JT`	`how come you didn't go with it? they're way more tested`
`22:51.05`	`Daveb21`	`no local supplier and it didnt have the austel tick - its come back to bite us tho`
`22:51.34`	`JT`	`local suppliers are rip offs, i try to avoid them when possible`
`22:52.08`	`JT`	`for this sort of stuff anyway, as they don't seem to understand the idea of being competitive`
`22:53.07`	`Daveb21`	`any quick suggestions for troubleshooting - i'm not particularly worried about outgoing calls just incoming at this point as our VoIP provider is working OK`
`22:53.29`	`JT`	`have you put it in debug mode at all?`
`22:53.41`	`Daveb21`	`yeah using misdn set debug 4?`
`22:53.53`	`JT`	`yes`
`22:54.41`	`Daveb21`	`for incoming calls the debug output is P[ 0] Unhandled Message: prim 3f082 len 0 from addr 42000103, dinfo 20003 on this port.`
`22:55.54`	`JT`	`hrm no idea`
`22:56.03`	`JT`	`i always found misdn debug super cryptic`
`22:56.04`	`Daveb21`	`Dunno what that means tho - am googling as we speak`
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`22:58.36`	`Daveb21`	`as the message appears in the asterisk console i would assume that the call is at least making it into asterisk`
`22:59.34`	`Cybertoy`	`anyone use chan_cellphone?`
`23:00.35`	`Cybertoy`	`placing a call through the cell channel crashes my asterisk...`
`23:00.45`	`JT`	`Daveb21: true, umm, put the configs in pastebin.ca if you want and i might have a quick look`
`23:00.58`	`Qwell`	`Cybertoy: get a backtrace, and put it on the bug report with the patch`
`23:01.51`	`Cybertoy`	`want to make sure first though that I'm doing everything right... but I take nobody here is using it.`
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`23:05.22`	`Daveb21`	`cheers JT - configs are at http://pastebin.ca/400847`
`23:07.02`	`JT`	`Daveb21: te_ptp=1,2,3,4 : incorrect`
`23:07.22`	`JT`	`well, most likely incorrect`
`23:07.39`	`Daveb21`	`should be ptmp??`
`23:07.52`	`JT`	`yes`
`23:07.56`	`JT`	`telstra default`
`23:08.14`	`JT`	`but by all means ring telstra to confirm what your line is set to`
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`23:08.31`	`Daveb21`	`thought that might have been an issue - i had tried with ptmp previously but probably stuffed that config too :)`
`23:09.17`	`JT`	`you should confirm with telstra`
`23:09.26`	`JT`	`it might have been set up for ptp, you never know`
`23:09.33`	`Daveb21`	`yeah am ringing them now`
`23:10.19`	`JT`	`12 2253`
`23:10.23`	`JT`	`13 2253`
`23:10.29`	`Daveb21`	`lets see if i can get through to someone at Telstra who knows what im on about`
`23:10.55`	`JT`	`ask for someone who can help you with a technical line enquiry`
`23:11.22`	`JT`	`i know it's probably a little late now`
`23:11.25`	`JT`	`but my i ask`
`23:11.35`	`JT`	`why are you using 4 * BRI?`
`23:12.15`	`Daveb21`	`we're only using 2 but i enabled all 4 so i could change ports for testing`
`23:12.49`	`JT`	`oh ok`
`23:12.58`	`JT`	`so now the question is why you got a 4 port card :P`
`23:13.28`	`Daveb21`	`to allow for future expansion - wanted to have the capacity there ready to go`
`23:13.42`	`JT`	`oh ok`
`23:13.57`	`JT`	`i'd be considering PRI even at 3 BRIs`
`23:14.02`	`JT`	`so much less hassle`
`23:14.20`	`JT`	`for the same or less cost`
`23:14.22`	`JT`	`for more lines`
`23:14.38`	`Daveb21`	`yeah I considered it but 10 lines is way overkill for our business`
`23:14.40`	`riddlebox`	`can I setup up a sip extension on one asterisk box, and then on another use that as a sip provider, and dial out?`
`23:15.09`	`JT`	`but if you upgrade from 2 BRIs, consider it, even if you don't use them all, it might still cost less`
`23:16.12`	`vmlemon`	`Is it possible to implement a "Call Waiting" type system with Asterisk?`
`23:16.26`	`JT`	`vmlemon: with what channels?`
`23:16.32`	`ManxPower`	`vmlemon: Yes, depending on your definition of Call Waiting and what devices you are using`
`23:17.15`	`vmlemon`	`JT: I'm referring to setting up an Asterisk network from scratch without connection to any "legacy" services`
`23:18.05`	`vmlemon`	`The plan was to reuse analogue phones with conversion adapters, and connect them to an Asterisk network`
`23:18.05`	`JT`	`vmlemon: so do you mean "sip phones"`
`23:18.09`	`vmlemon`	`Yes`
`23:18.14`	`JT`	`oh`
`23:18.20`	`JT`	`analogue phones are not sip phones`
`23:18.32`	`vmlemon`	`I was referring to both SIP and Analogue phones`
`23:18.40`	`JT`	`anyway, whatever terminates your call to digital is pretty much what is responsible for it`
`23:18.44`	`vmlemon`	`(SIP taking priority)`
`23:18.48`	`Daveb21`	`JT: Yeah for sure - i have a bad feeling that cost would be the deciding factor tho rather than whats technically best :(`
`23:18.49`	`JT`	`zaptel if it's a zap channel`
`23:19.13`	`JT`	`the ATA if you use an ATA`
`23:19.20`	`JT`	`the SIP phone if you use one....`
`23:19.50`	`JT`	`Daveb21: umm it would probably cost less`
`23:19.54`	`JT`	`once you hit 3 BRIs`
`23:20.01`	`JT`	`if you get a competitive PRI deal`
`23:20.07`	`JT`	`ie. not telstra`
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`23:26.46`	`Daveb21`	`hahah yeah I'd much rather go someone other than Telstra`
`23:27.12`	`akant2`	`Has any here gotten a Cisco MC3810 register its FXS ports with * ?`
`23:27.15`	`JT`	`optus were doing lines at $20/mo/ea if you were in an exchange are they were in`
`23:27.22`	`JT`	`that includes PRIs`
`23:28.20`	`Ch0Hag`	`Will a P2 350 should be adequate to run a pair of in and out zap channels and a handful of IP-based?`
`23:28.28`	`Ch0Hag`	`ie. for a home system.`
`23:28.40`	`Ch0Hag`	`A pair as in - one in and one out.`
`23:28.49`	`JT`	`probably, if it's not doing a transcode to something highly compressed`
`23:29.03`	`Ch0Hag`	`Lke?`
`23:29.10`	`Ch0Hag`	`+i`
`23:29.12`	`JT`	`g.729`
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`23:29.26`	`Daveb21`	`JT - could you see anything else in that config that looked iffy?`
`23:29.39`	`Ch0Hag`	`What sort of spec does 729 need?`
`23:29.44`	`akant2`	`Ch0Hag I ran something similar on a p2-400 no problems`
`23:30.26`	`Qwell`	`You could probably get away with a channel or two of transcoding`
`23:30.50`	`vmlemon`	`So, I just get a few FXO adapters, plug the analogue phones into them and configure Asterisk?`
`23:31.08`	`Ch0Hag`	`Well I suppose it wouldn't be used for much.`
`23:31.19`	`vmlemon`	`That said, it won't be connected to the PSTN at all`
`23:31.30`	`Ch0Hag`	`Anything other than the main phone line would just be farmed off to the fatter box.`
`23:31.36`	`JT`	`Daveb21: nothing popped out at me, but there's so many silly options in misdn, i could've missed something`
`23:32.23`	`Daveb21`	`No worries, thanks for taking a look`
`23:32.34`	`JT`	`Daveb21: what did telstra say?`
`23:32.35`	`Ch0Hag`	`Presumabely zap FXO <-> FXS remain uncompressed (and therefore requires virtually no CPU).`
`23:32.46`	`JT`	`Ch0Hag: correct`
`23:33.02`	`Ch0Hag`	`Excellent.`
`23:33.31`	`Ch0Hag`	`My stupidly-overspecced firewall now has a purpose to which it can put its wasted cycles.`
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`23:38.34`	`MrWup`	`would any of you guys recommend using the GXP 2000?`
`23:38.43`	`orlock`	`no`
`23:39.06`	`MrWup`	`bad ip phone? had problems?`
`23:39.20`	`orlock`	`well, i run one at hme, and it is OK`
`23:39.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~gs`
`23:39.30`	`jbot`	`somebody said gs was South Georgia and the South Sandwich islands, or ghostscript. GrandSuck phones are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice`
`23:39.30`	`orlock`	`my GF prefers the Cisco 7960/40's though`
`23:39.35`	`riddlebox`	`MrWup, everyone hates um, I dont have a problem with the one I have`
`23:39.41`	`JT`	`[TK]D-Fender: beat me to it`
`23:39.48`	`Qwell`	`orlock: that doesn't surprise me`
`23:39.56`	`orlock`	`yeah`
`23:40.03`	`Daveb21`	`JT: Telstra reckons both lines are PTP`
`23:40.07`	`orlock`	`it "works".. but we had some weird issues with them originally`
`23:40.26`	`MrWup`	`what phone would you recommend? i am looking for relatively cheap IP phones which are as configurable as the GXP 2000 but without the hissing etc problems ive read about`
`23:40.28`	`MrWup`	`for office use`
`23:40.35`	`MrWup`	`so need really clear voice`
`23:40.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~phones`
`23:40.45`	`jbot`	`[phones] http://bani.anime.net/phones/. SIP Hardphones in order of quality/suggestability : Polycom (any), Aastra 480i, Cisco 7940(+), Linksys SPA-9XX, Snom`
`23:40.48`	`MrWup`	`dont want to sound like a cheap company over the phone =]`
`23:40.53`	`MrWup`	`ah`
`23:40.57`	`orlock`	`MrWup: the Sipura phones are ok`
`23:41.21`	`orlock`	`aka Linksys.. cisco branded kinda`
`23:41.39`	`Sweeper`	`pooooolycom~`
`23:41.40`	`riddlebox`	`polycom is coming out with phones that say asterisk on them now`
`23:42.01`	`Sweeper`	`do they use iax?`
`23:42.01`	`MrWup`	`oh`
`23:42.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`riddlebox, Mine alrady says "Asterisk" with a really big logo on it :)`
`23:42.37`	`riddlebox`	`ohh ok, I know that is the big reason we are looking at selling asterisk now, they have a "branded phone"`
`23:42.53`	`Sweeper`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm surprised you defaced your precious polycom... :P`
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`23:43.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Sweeper, Defaced how? Its an Idle image :)`
`23:43.23`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: any price difference for polycom/asterisk phones? Also, any stickers, etc to "convert" polycom phones to asterisk phones"?`
`23:43.25`	`k31th`	`Hi guys�.`
`23:43.47`	`MrWup`	`god damn`
`23:43.48`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: Oh! So the asterisk branded phones are 501 and up?`
`23:43.51`	`MrWup`	`polycom aint cheap`
`23:43.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower, Yeah, ummm.. thats it! ;)`
`23:44.03`	`Sweeper`	`[TK]D-Fender: oh, ok, I thought you meant a sticker :P`
`23:44.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MrWup, No, but its perfectly ok for YOU to be ;)`
`23:44.23`	`MrWup`	`heh`
`23:44.24`	`ManxPower`	`MrWup: getting fired for using crappy phones is not cheap either`
`23:44.34`	`MrWup`	`yeah`
`23:44.50`	`Sweeper`	`solution: get sample phones, and test!`
`23:44.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MrWup, Where are you located?`
`23:44.56`	`Sweeper`	`amazing how often that works >.>`
`23:45.48`	`MrWup`	`UK`
`23:46.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MrWup, Poor you (for the cost/perfance ratio available to you where you are). Linksys SPA-9XX series phone will probably be up your alley`
`23:46.32`	`MrWup`	`was kind of hoping fo max of $150 per handset`
`23:46.32`	`k31th`	`im in the UK.`
`23:46.49`	`k31th`	`I use the Linksys phones.`
`23:46.55`	`k31th`	`SPA942`
`23:47.11`	`MrWup`	`good voice quality?`
`23:47.17`	`k31th`	`yeah good handset/`
`23:47.20`	`orlock`	`we use Cisoc's internally as we had them from a previous voip provider, but since then we have been using Linksys phones`
`23:47.23`	`orlock`	`and they are good`
`23:47.25`	`flenders`	`there are a few things that are pretty annoying on SPA9XX phones`
`23:47.34`	`orlock`	`flenders: paying for 4 line capability is one`
`23:47.41`	`k31th`	`they don't feel shit either.`
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`23:47.46`	`flenders`	`but the quality is great`
`23:47.49`	`vmlemon`	`Odd question, but has anyone managed to run a modem through Asterisk?`
`23:48.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Who needs 4 lines on those phones anyways? most people never use more than 1 anyways`
`23:48.07`	`vmlemon`	`Or is it not recommended?`
`23:48.07`	`orlock`	`k31th: yeah, thye dont have the "could beat somebody to death with the handset" feel te ciscos have`
`23:48.08`	`flenders`	`orlock: one thing that really annoys me is the "missed call" message`
`23:48.08`	`k31th`	`flenders: paying for it?`
`23:48.09`	`ManxPower`	`vmlemon: That would be silly`
`23:48.36`	`orlock`	`but they are not cheap like the grandstreams where you can hear the handset sqeak during stressfull calls`
`23:48.39`	`flenders`	`k31th: I think they're great for their price, I have 20 of those here`
`23:49.02`	`k31th`	`orlock: lol, there ok you get what you pay for there great value imo + they have the 24 ring tone.`
`23:49.16`	`orlock`	`ngargh`
`23:49.16`	`orlock`	`:)`
`23:49.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`flenders, In North America Linksys phones are too similarly priced to Polycom / Aastra to warrant consideration.`
`23:49.35`	`flenders`	`k31th: it's totally worth it. the next decent phone is about 100 bucks more expensive over here`
`23:49.36`	`k31th`	`AsteriskNOW is that going to be free?`
`23:49.51`	`Qwell`	`k31th: yes`
`23:49.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower, Have you seen the new Aaastra 5Xi series phones? REALLY nice, and their attendant modules are godly....`
`23:49.59`	`flenders`	`[TK]D-Fender: I can get the SPA921s here for 120 bucks!`
`23:50.13`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: we are wed to polycoms`
`23:50.20`	`k31th`	`Qwell: is that sort of like a trixbox style thing?`
`23:50.28`	`ManxPower`	`or perhaps the correct word is wedded.`
`23:50.33`	`Qwell`	`k31th: No, it doesn't suck`
`23:50.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower, As in 12-Guage? ;)`
`23:50.38`	`Qwell`	`if that was what you were asking ;)`
`23:50.43`	`k31th`	`lol, apart from that.`
`23:50.46`	`MrWup`	`how about the SPA 921?`
`23:51.03`	`Qwell`	`It's a distro based around asterisk, and includes a GUI`
`23:51.05`	`MrWup`	`good quality?`
`23:51.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MrWup,spa-921 is fine for a basic phone.`
`23:51.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MrWup, "not bad"`
`23:51.31`	`flenders`	`MrWup: it is the same as SPA94x, but a single "line"`
`23:51.34`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: as in the most "important" users move between offices and get easily confused when the phones don't work the same between different offices.`
`23:51.38`	`MrWup`	`oh`
`23:51.45`	`MrWup`	`no good for a receptionist then`
`23:51.57`	`Qwell`	`What's the SPA 9x1 cost?`
`23:52.04`	`MrWup`	`�69`
`23:52.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower, Yeah I know a few things about picky users`
`23:52.20`	`JT`	`i've found it more economical to bring in polycoms from USA than to use a linksys or pay local vendors' stupid polycom prices`
`23:52.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`JT : and you don't get slammed on shipping/duty?`
`23:52.52`	`wunderkin`	`speaking of polycoms.... fender, do you have that basic config file layout for 2.1.0 that i can see? :D i need to make all of my changes today... been busy moving...`
`23:53.11`	`JT`	`[TK]D-Fender: nup`
`23:53.20`	`*** join/#asterisk caio1982 (i=caio1982@CAcert-br/caio1982)`
`23:53.20`	`JT`	`luckily they don't have lead inside polycoms`
`23:53.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin, EEK, no....`
`23:53.55`	`JT`	`[TK]D-Fender: an item imported into australia via postal service is not liable for GST/import duty unless the total value including shipping exceeds AUD$1000`
`23:54.06`	`JT`	`it's $250 for courier service`
`23:54.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin, I'll start them up now...`
`23:54.37`	`JT`	`and our exchange rate with the US rocks atm`
`23:54.37`	`flenders`	`JT: 250 to get it delivered?`
`23:54.58`	`JT`	`flenders: $250 total cose before gst/duty applies`
`23:55.00`	`JT`	`cost`
`23:55.27`	`JT`	`shipping is like USD$35`
`23:55.27`	`wunderkin`	`[TK]D-Fender, i just wanted to see your file layout.. and basic registration template that can be slightly adjusted to fit my needs... i want to go as basic as possible from something known to be working...`
`23:55.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin, Ok, I'll make it a SINGLE template then.`
`23:56.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wunderkin, And let you expand on it`
`23:56.09`	`MrWup`	`what a late night im about to have`
`23:56.10`	`MrWup`	`heh`
`23:56.21`	`MrWup`	`got to be in a position to place orders for phones on monday`
`23:56.23`	`wunderkin`	`[TK]D-Fender, thanks`
`23:56.41`	`flenders`	`JT: so, about 350 to get it over here?`
`23:56.48`	`JT`	`flenders: depends on the model`
`23:57.04`	`JT`	`and if it's brand new`
`23:57.18`	`JT`	`getting some almost new ones for my own testing`
`23:58.19`	`flenders`	`JT: can't you get second hand ones for about the same price here?`
`23:58.28`	`JT`	`not that i've seen`
`23:58.40`	`JT`	`people don't sell their polycom ip phones here`
`23:58.47`	`JT`	`they're not common as is`
`23:59.21`	`MrWup`	`what a nightmare... now i gotta take PoE into account`
`23:59.47`	`MrWup`	`what would be perfect is a 48 port gigabit switch with poe on 24 of em`
`23:59.51`	`MrWup`	`but nooooowhee to be found`
`23:59.54`	`*** part/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@217-175-152.100710.adsl.tele2.no)`

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