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| 00:08.00 | HarryR | duki, they can just call your Belgium number? |
| 00:08.26 | HarryR | but yeah, having people call you on a number in their own country is better |
| 00:10.52 | cpm | bummer, I'd trade you a US did for a Belgium did |
| 00:11.35 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage, that isn't what I was suggesting.... you monito the call TO local, not IN local <--- |
| 00:12.24 | HarryR | cpm, i'll trade you a UK number for a US one :D |
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| 00:14.38 | duki | HarryR: Ok, thank you. |
| 00:16.13 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage : http://pastebin.com/m723c8f99 |
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| 01:15.09 | knarfly | anyone have the link for the new TFOT manual?' |
| 01:15.34 | fakhir | ~book |
| 01:15.35 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 01:16.22 | knarfly | `book |
| 01:16.56 | knarfly | jbot: what's the key sequence to auto post this? |
| 01:17.34 | tzafrir_home | knarfly, /msg jbot <factoid> |
| 01:17.46 | tzafrir_home | knarfly, or: ~<factoid> |
| 01:18.29 | knarfly | ~ book |
| 01:18.30 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 01:18.41 | knarfly | got it...thanks |
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| 01:36.16 | pepse | hey guys |
| 01:36.23 | pepse | anyone have experience with AsteriskGui? |
| 01:36.39 | pepse | it seems to like to forget that queues are actually queue |
| 01:36.39 | pepse | s |
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| 01:40.26 | fakhir | pepse, you are going to want the #asterisk-gui channel for that question |
| 01:45.51 | pepse | o i shoulda checked on that one. |
| 01:46.18 | HarryR | any frontend ontop of asterisk is generally much harder to support |
| 01:46.26 | HarryR | they take over *everything* |
| 01:46.34 | pepse | agreed |
| 01:46.42 | pepse | i think asterisknow uses xml configs tho |
| 01:46.46 | pepse | err asteriskgui |
| 01:47.48 | jameswf-home | tell me if im off base, If your project has 20 OPEN bubs do you bump out a new release before you close said bugs |
| 01:48.05 | jameswf-home | *bugs |
| 01:48.43 | HarryR | only if it's benificial |
| 01:48.52 | HarryR | e.g. you want to do restructuring before you fix them |
| 01:49.08 | HarryR | or they require restructuring to be fixed |
| 01:49.51 | HarryR | why do you ask anyway? |
| 01:50.23 | jameswf-home | keepin an eye on trixbox CE.. they pushed out beta 4 with 20+ bugs open in beta 3 |
| 01:51.16 | HarryR | that's not the same as a release though... it's still beta |
| 01:51.25 | HarryR | does the beta4 fix any of those bugs? |
| 01:51.51 | jameswf-home | I ran out of time friday I am pulling it in with centpbx on monday. |
| 01:53.26 | jameswf-home | How many new * based distros can come out in 1 week :) |
| 01:54.37 | jameswf-home | I am lookin foreward to wards new toy |
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| 02:24.23 | JerJer | I wonder who is going to sue vonage next ? |
| 02:24.28 | JerJer | uncle sam? |
| 02:27.23 | HarryR | what for? |
| 02:31.02 | JerJer | vonage was sued by at&t now, yesterday |
| 02:31.28 | peanut- | why |
| 02:31.34 | JerJer | patent shit |
| 02:32.46 | peanut- | maybe they'll sue me next. |
| 02:32.56 | peanut- | I don't pay them royalties |
| 02:33.16 | JerJer | http://tinyurl.com/2s7au4 |
| 02:34.51 | peanut- | I wouldn't consider that an enforcable patent if they didn't have a working proof of concept |
| 02:34.58 | peanut- | I better patent time travel.. |
| 02:35.33 | peanut- | or maybe if I did patent it, I'd cease to be, the inventor would probably go back in time and whack me so I never patent it.. |
| 02:35.49 | peanut- | then he'd make Millions! MUAhahaha! |
| 02:36.15 | HarryR | ooh, that patent pretty much covers any compressed voice codec over ip |
| 02:36.49 | JerJer | or cell phone |
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| 02:37.07 | JerJer | gsm is a compressed codec |
| 02:37.33 | JerJer | and i presume cell companies have an intelligent netwrok |
| 02:38.01 | peanut- | I'm sure everyone agrees it's stupid. |
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| 03:07.39 | tzanger | my L6 on rogers (gsm) sends dtmf asterisk cannot understand. my wife's treo (Telus, CDMA) has no issue. |
| 03:07.51 | tzanger | now mind you, asterisk's dtmf detection isn't stellar, either |
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| 03:25.19 | WilliamK | good evening coppice |
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| 03:37.28 | tzanger | he's being quiet so I don't ask him questions :-) |
| 03:38.09 | WilliamK | :) |
| 03:45.13 | coppice | good morning |
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| 03:53.17 | jameswf-home | weeee |
| 03:53.34 | coppice | youuuuuuu |
| 03:54.41 | jameswf-home | I am trying to think of fun things to do with bash and originate, I made 48 phones ring and play tt-monkeys :) felt kinda dirty |
| 04:00.27 | peanut- | 802.11 phones are freaking sweet. |
| 04:01.08 | jameswf-home | someone showed me one that looked like a cell phone it was kinda cool |
| 04:01.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wifisip |
| 04:01.56 | jbot | Wi-Fi SIP phones suck. All of them. HARD. Some only slightly less than others... |
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| 04:03.00 | peanut- | [TK]D-Fender: mine works great |
| 04:04.33 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, in a controlled environment it might be passable but the sad lak of functionality and battery life blows |
| 04:04.49 | peanut- | it makes calls.. it's a phone.. |
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| 04:05.30 | coppice | Windows XP - it causes misery. its an operating system |
| 04:05.47 | peanut- | carried-away-by-monkeys.gsm what? |
| 04:08.35 | coppice | qualcom_sucks.gsm |
| 04:12.38 | Maliuta | peanut-: it's the pre-cursor to tt_monkeys |
| 04:13.47 | Maliuta | I have shell scripts that prank call with them, they're great when I am bored at work |
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| 04:31.18 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source Telephony Application Platform -=- Asterisk 1.4.13 (Oct. 10, 2007) Addons 1.2.8, 1.4.4 (Oct. 16, 2007) -=- Join #asterisknow or #asterisk-gui for AsteriskNOW and Asterisk-GUI info -=- Join #asterisk-commits to monitor svn changes -=- Join #freepbx for freepbx/#trixbox for trixbox support. -=- http://www.digium.com/en/company/switchvox-acquisition-faq.php |
| 04:31.32 | HarryR | and good lamb is some of the best meat i've tasted |
| 04:31.37 | [TK]D-Fender | HarryR, I'm sure you had PLENTY of fun with them... but this is a family show! |
| 04:31.41 | HarryR | lol |
| 04:32.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Yesterdays filet mignon, blue & seared wins with me, hands down. |
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| 04:32.34 | [TK]D-Fender | I've still got it on my list to find someone to go try steak tartare with... |
| 04:33.45 | Maliuta | mmm, I like my cow still going "moo" |
| 04:33.59 | Maliuta | steak tartare is high on my to try list |
| 04:34.30 | HarryR | [TK]D-Fender, not too keen on raw steak |
| 04:34.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Maliuta, like Dennis Leary says : Bring the whole cow, I'll carve off what I want... and RIIIDDEE the rest home! |
| 04:35.01 | HarryR | I can do unminced steak, just has to be seared or sealed on the outside |
| 04:35.15 | HarryR | otherwise, health concerns etc. |
| 04:35.39 | [TK]D-Fender | HarryR, I'm rather open minded and would only trust it to a four-star place, of which I have many options here. |
| 04:35.48 | HarryR | yah I see what you mean |
| 04:36.04 | coppice | stars say nothing about hygiene |
| 04:36.15 | [TK]D-Fender | HarryR, I'm not indiscriminate with who I trust to treat my cow right :D |
| 04:36.49 | HarryR | coppice, but the chefs they employ are more uh.. discerning |
| 04:37.37 | coppice | well, my cousin is the top chef in a 5 star hotel, and even *he* says stars are no measure of hygiene :-) |
| 04:37.44 | Maliuta | [TK]D-Fender: I'll eat what I want wear the skin the ride the rest home |
| 04:37.55 | HarryR | Maliuta, ahah |
| 04:38.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Maliuta, waste not, want not. |
| 04:38.11 | Maliuta | coppice: stars are no indication of food quality either |
| 04:38.22 | HarryR | only price :D |
| 04:39.00 | [TK]D-Fender | note : I wasn't jsut banking on some maghazine review, but rather from people who've had what I want to try from a variety of places. |
| 04:39.11 | HarryR | I mean they usually hire head chefs that love their food and care about it |
| 04:39.24 | Maliuta | [TK]D-Fender: I'm a whole cow conservationist ... I'm not some hypocritical leather shoe wearing vegan hippie |
| 04:39.55 | [TK]D-Fender | I have an Indian co-worker who is going to point me in the direction of a more ethnic restaurant as most we find are a little too "white" |
| 04:40.01 | coppice | vegetarian shoes could be a new business opportunity |
| 04:40.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Maliuta, Vegan no, but I think a vegetarian could get away with those shoes :) |
| 04:40.38 | HarryR | [TK]D-Fender, there are quite a few really good Pakistani and Balgladeshi places all over london |
| 04:40.51 | coppice | indian restaurants are generally fairly authentic, though they predominantly northern in style |
| 04:40.59 | HarryR | used to live across the road from one, and half the pakistani population would be in or around it at any one time |
| 04:41.16 | Maliuta | to paraphrase from The Simpsons ... "I'm a level 5 vegan, I don't eat anything that casts a shodow. Oh! and look at my mould and moss shoes!" ;) |
| 04:41.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Maliuta, Vegans remind me of homeopaths whichw hen you get down to it sounds an aweful lot like PSYCHOPATHS :p |
| 04:41.32 | Maliuta | most of them are |
| 04:41.38 | [TK]D-Fender | HarryR, And I'm notwhere near any London :) |
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| 04:42.07 | HarryR | i'll ship you some dahl and a few daily dishes |
| 04:42.15 | coppice | the rather unauthentic things about indian restaurants outside india is the amount of meat they serve |
| 04:42.42 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice, Yeah I was suspecting that myself. |
| 04:43.23 | coppice | the meals on indian airlines are always the same options - veg or non-veg :-) |
| 04:43.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Of all cuisines that I think I could bare going vegetarian with, Indian would be it. Chinese a fair second. |
| 04:43.27 | HarryR | why not just go to India/Bangladesh/Pakistan? |
| 04:43.40 | peanut- | so what can I play these gsm files with locally so I can hear wtf they are? |
| 04:43.42 | Sweeper | HarryR: it's all the same! *duck* |
| 04:43.45 | HarryR | lol |
| 04:43.47 | coppice | chinese vegetarian is an odd concept |
| 04:44.28 | coppice | I've lived for a couple of weeks on indian vegetarian, in a small town where nobody serves meat. it didn't bother me at all |
| 04:48.18 | HarryR | only know a handful of indian vegetarians |
| 04:48.23 | HarryR | although they all live in the UK :\ |
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| 04:49.50 | coppice | that's an odd one. a large percentage of the indians in the UK are from gujurat. gujurat is where I spend 2 weeks eating no meat, yet in the UK, most of those Patels eat meat, just avoiding beef |
| 04:50.35 | HarryR | because it's cheap and everybody else does :D |
| 04:50.49 | dlynes | I thought Patel was a Punjabi, not a Gujarati? |
| 04:51.14 | coppice | wrong |
| 04:51.52 | dlynes | Just heard from my Punjabi boss that Patel was a Punjabi name |
| 04:52.10 | dlynes | Maybe he just meant Indian |
| 04:52.26 | coppice | all the Patels I ever met seem to speak Gujurati |
| 04:52.42 | coppice | and in gujurat everyone seems to be called patel |
| 04:54.18 | [TK]D-Fender | alright.... bed time. Nice chatting, back tomorrow.... |
| 04:55.25 | coppice | alright.... lunch time. Nice chatting, back after lunch.... :-) |
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| 05:23.56 | salzh | i have two asterisk servers. how can implement the communications between the two? |
| 05:24.13 | Qwell | let's play "How many LEDs can you see in your office without getting up from your chair?" |
| 05:24.17 | Qwell | only LEDs that are lit (or are blinking - ie; traffic lights) count :D |
| 05:24.48 | Qwell | Who can beat 33? O.o |
| 05:26.09 | Qwell | salzh: create iax2 or sip accounts on each box for the other box |
| 05:26.49 | salzh | good idea |
| 05:27.24 | Qwell | Correction - who can beat 65? :P |
| 05:27.49 | coppice | every time a bus goes past, I see hundreds. does that count? |
| 05:27.59 | Qwell | no it does not |
| 05:28.27 | coppice | how come traffic lights count, but bus signs don't? |
| 05:28.43 | Qwell | wrong kind of traffic lights |
| 05:28.54 | Qwell | I mean like on a switch... |
| 05:30.03 | Runlvl | salzh, use iax |
| 05:32.54 | Qwell | (oh, and if your monitor is oled, you are disqualified) |
| 05:33.11 | Qwell | ((because that's just down right cheating :P)) |
| 05:36.02 | nrp | 2 partially full 8 port gigE switches, router, 5port 10/100 switch, and various computers/monitors/laptops/mice |
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| 05:48.18 | nclx | I'm looking for opinions, is it better to locate asterisk in a firewalled DMZ in public IP space, or on my internal network with portforwards setup, it does SIP over VPN to client phones, and SIP over the internet to VoIP providers |
| 06:01.37 | TrentCreek | yes |
| 06:02.05 | HarryR | hrm that AT&T patent really looks evil |
| 06:02.19 | HarryR | basically anything that acts as an ATA is "in violation" |
| 06:02.34 | coppice | which AT&T patent? |
| 06:02.40 | HarryR | http://www.jeremy-mcnamara.com/2007/10/20/att-sues-vonage-over-patent-6487200/ |
| 06:02.48 | TrentCreek | the one they are sueing Vonage for? |
| 06:03.03 | HarryR | 11 year old patent |
| 06:03.04 | HarryR | yes |
| 06:04.28 | TrentCreek | well at least us n00bs don't have to worry about that |
| 06:04.42 | coppice | HarryR: what is on that page is the abstract of the patent. it is irrelevant. you need to look at the claims (which I am doing now) |
| 06:04.49 | HarryR | yeah same as |
| 06:04.54 | HarryR | but too much lawyer speak |
| 06:05.50 | HarryR | starting from claim 8 it seems to be AT&T specific stuff |
| 06:06.32 | HarryR | although claim 6 with the whole "time sharing" stuff could throw it off |
| 06:07.18 | TrentCreek | that "patent" describes every phone type system in operation in the world |
| 06:07.32 | TrentCreek | so it is revelant |
| 06:07.46 | HarryR | TrentCreek, nah, their claims go into on-premiseces style devices |
| 06:08.00 | HarryR | and cover some very specific ATA (or even cable modem) related stuff |
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| 06:08.40 | coppice | the claims seem very broad, and seem to cover pretty much any voice over packet network. that means there is prior art for at least some of what it claims |
| 06:08.51 | TrentCreek | Sounds like AT&t is just trying to bury the company with legal fees |
| 06:09.21 | TrentCreek | and get rid of another company that is competing with it |
| 06:09.35 | TrentCreek | I am sure their stock is under $1 a share now |
| 06:10.23 | coppice | the cite *lots* of stuff about ATM, but a lot of that ATM stuff seems like it would be valid prior art |
| 06:11.16 | HarryR | TrentCreek, nah it's down 13% |
| 06:11.48 | HarryR | at ~1.50 |
| 06:11.48 | Qwell | heh, their stock is actually above $1? |
| 06:11.51 | TrentCreek | when that last verdict was rendered, it was at $1 |
| 06:11.52 | HarryR | yah |
| 06:11.57 | HarryR | oh right |
| 06:12.02 | Qwell | that surprises me |
| 06:12.13 | coppice | it was filed in 1996, but voice over IP was one of the original uses foir UDP. they should have needed something much narrower than this to get a patent |
| 06:12.34 | HarryR | and why haven't they been defending it ? |
| 06:13.00 | coppice | that's irrelevant. they aren't required to |
| 06:13.26 | HarryR | I thought you needed to defend your patent actively (e.g. seek licensing) |
| 06:13.50 | coppice | nope. you are propbably thinking of trademarks |
| 06:13.52 | HarryR | as opposed to just being a massive corporate land grab |
| 06:13.54 | HarryR | oh right yah |
| 06:14.20 | TrentCreek | nothing that vauge |
| 06:14.23 | HarryR | technically we sell stuff that breaks this patent |
| 06:14.24 | HarryR | :( |
| 06:14.36 | HarryR | uh, violates* |
| 06:14.39 | TrentCreek | not really...It's 11 years old |
| 06:14.50 | TrentCreek | more like DID violate |
| 06:14.55 | coppice | it looks like anything remotely in the area of VoIP does |
| 06:14.58 | HarryR | and? patents are 15 years |
| 06:15.05 | TrentCreek | 10 |
| 06:15.13 | coppice | patents are 20 years from filing in the US |
| 06:15.16 | TrentCreek | 10 |
| 06:16.08 | HarryR | coppice, I thought the claims were specific to atas |
| 06:16.11 | coppice | patents are 20 years from filing, or 17 from issue, whichever is sooner, in the US. It most countries they are 15 years |
| 06:16.25 | HarryR | it's quite obvious at what their aiming at though and why their targeting vonage specifically with that |
| 06:16.41 | coppice | HarryR: where can you see anything specific to an ATA? |
| 06:17.12 | HarryR | oh nm, that pretty much covers any voip phone as well |
| 06:17.18 | TrentCreek | they recently changed that |
| 06:17.25 | HarryR | sry braincloud |
| 06:17.45 | HarryR | and mobile phones |
| 06:17.52 | HarryR | uhh |
| 06:18.42 | HarryR | my head hurts from all that lawyernise |
| 06:18.54 | coppice | TrentCreek: the recently changed what? |
| 06:20.15 | TrentCreek | the time for patents..it was 10 years |
| 06:20.28 | TrentCreek | seems congress extended many itmes not too long ago |
| 06:20.46 | TrentCreek | such as copyright length and patents now...geesh |
| 06:21.11 | coppice | it has been 20/17 since the early 80s. before that I think it was in line with the rest of the world. there is legislation in progress right now to bring the US patents into line with the rest of the world |
| 06:21.43 | Qwell | coppice: what're they going to do, change the rest of the world to be 20 years? :) |
| 06:21.46 | Qwell | That seems far more likely |
| 06:21.59 | HarryR | lol |
| 06:22.51 | HarryR | 17 years from grant. 20 years from filing date |
| 06:23.03 | TrentCreek | I don't see how AT&T will hit Vonage up for this. 1) Vonage is not making anyting. Only useing equipment made by others. Why not go after Cisco? |
| 06:23.26 | Qwell | TrentCreek: what makes you think Cisco hasn't licensed the patent? |
| 06:23.28 | TrentCreek | 2) That patent if very vauge and can be used to describe every phone system in use inthe world |
| 06:23.37 | coppice | the real issues for alignment have little to do with the duration. the rest of the world runs a first to file scheme, where you can't file if there have been any publishing. The US has a first to invent scheme, where you can publish up to one year before filing. |
| 06:23.37 | Qwell | or that they have some sort of cross-patent deal? |
| 06:23.51 | TrentCreek | If Cisco has, then why is Vonage being sued? |
| 06:24.42 | TrentCreek | That would like me getting a liscense to sell a copyrighted book, then sueing the readers for buying it |
| 06:24.58 | coppice | Simple. Cisco supplies AT&T. Vonage competes with AT&T |
| 06:25.56 | HarryR | im sure there must be prior art for this |
| 06:25.56 | TrentCreek | yeah I know..hence they want to shut them down |
| 06:26.11 | HarryR | voip phones before 1996 |
| 06:26.59 | TrentCreek | there is..I think Phil Zimmer has made PGPhone |
| 06:27.06 | TrentCreek | maybe in 95? |
| 06:27.35 | coppice | people where doing conference calls over UDP in its first year |
| 06:28.44 | HarryR | so definately prior art |
| 06:29.04 | HarryR | how on earth has this patent been filed then? I presume based on just a handful of the later claims |
| 06:29.14 | HarryR | uh, accepted I mean |
| 06:29.58 | TrentCreek | you can sure for anything, but don't mean you will win |
| 06:30.02 | TrentCreek | *sue |
| 06:30.34 | TrentCreek | Just means that Vonage will have to spend more money on this suit and may endup closing its doors |
| 06:31.10 | TrentCreek | Their VOIP service was overpriced and they ended shutting it down |
| 06:31.30 | TrentCreek | now there is talk of starting up a new service...funny |
| 06:31.45 | TrentCreek | and shortly after anouncement..come this suit |
| 06:32.23 | HarryR | I mean, how could that patent have been accepted in the first place |
| 06:32.30 | HarryR | their supposed to weed out crap |
| 06:33.19 | coppice | The USPTO is the only US government body that fires slackers. a slacker is someone who doesn't issue wads of patents |
| 06:33.21 | TrentCreek | but they don't |
| 06:33.27 | HarryR | :D |
| 06:33.37 | HarryR | so it's broken by definition |
| 06:33.50 | TrentCreek | They take any patent now days and someone has to spend money to challenge it |
| 06:34.33 | HarryR | :( |
| 06:36.33 | TrentCreek | it generates $$$$ |
| 06:37.19 | TrentCreek | I should do that |
| 06:37.31 | TrentCreek | like these fools go around registering domains |
| 06:37.48 | TrentCreek | go make up a bunch of BS to patent then sue the heck out of people |
| 06:37.50 | HarryR | patent holding companies are the best |
| 06:38.05 | HarryR | they have no intention other than to make money off patents |
| 06:38.15 | TrentCreek | yeah.. |
| 06:38.17 | HarryR | but don't produce anythin |
| 06:38.23 | TrentCreek | I should patent to make a patent |
| 06:38.55 | coppice | i dunno. they just want money. big companies want to drive new players out of the market. which is really worse? |
| 06:39.55 | HarryR | I'd say the patent holding companies |
| 06:40.05 | HarryR | because it stifles innovation |
| 06:40.07 | TrentCreek | hehe |
| 06:40.15 | HarryR | whereas with the big companies, you have a chance of being "merged" |
| 06:40.17 | TrentCreek | yeah it does |
| 06:40.29 | coppice | no. they just put the prices up. the big companies stiffle |
| 06:40.30 | HarryR | and your nice cool tech being given an instantly larged distribution platform |
| 06:41.15 | HarryR | their both bad |
| 06:41.51 | coppice | big companies only innovate when there is no option. the ones rapidly innovating are in markets with no option - e.g. the relative speed of pentium progress with and without a strong AMD offering |
| 06:41.56 | TrentCreek | yah..AT&T has been dropping their LL prices a lot |
| 06:43.13 | TrentCreek | because so many people been using other stuff |
| 06:43.59 | TrentCreek | don't worry, they will stifle that also |
| 06:44.23 | HarryR | people are in business in the UK right now providing WiMax over fairly large areas |
| 06:44.55 | HarryR | and voip over WiMax (*cough*) |
| 06:45.11 | coppice | how much wimax kit is available there? |
| 06:45.38 | HarryR | no idea, the provider just gives you everything as part of the contract |
| 06:45.55 | coppice | what do they give you? PCMCIA cards? |
| 06:46.06 | HarryR | a box with an ethernet port |
| 06:46.18 | HarryR | and from there you can plug in whatever you want |
| 06:46.23 | coppice | oh, a fixed location package? |
| 06:46.26 | HarryR | yah |
| 06:46.37 | HarryR | 10mbit business connection |
| 06:46.41 | coppice | why is that interesting? |
| 06:46.41 | HarryR | no cables job |
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| 06:47.03 | HarryR | coppice, because you can get it up and running in hours from ordering it |
| 06:47.07 | coppice | that isn't really an issue in the UK |
| 06:47.39 | HarryR | variety is a good thing :D |
| 06:48.05 | coppice | I suspect the issue is bloody BT, rather than anything sane |
| 06:48.16 | HarryR | tbh I don't know much about mobile WiMax |
| 06:48.26 | HarryR | but I presume you could get something fitted to your car |
| 06:48.44 | HarryR | so you can watch hidef adverts while your crusing on the m25 |
| 06:48.49 | HarryR | uh... no maybe that's a bad idea |
| 06:49.02 | coppice | you can do that with HSDPA |
| 06:49.21 | HarryR | unwired wifi meshing? |
| 06:50.05 | HarryR | so you just need a power supply on-site and nothing else |
| 06:50.11 | coppice | wifi finally seems to be moving. there are now quite a few places where you go and it just works with free open access |
| 06:50.25 | HarryR | yah I know |
| 06:50.37 | HarryR | but I don't have a laptop or a phone with wifi |
| 06:50.42 | TrentCreek | I wish I could get that Fibre bases Verizon servie |
| 06:50.43 | HarryR | so it's kinda pointless for me |
| 06:50.59 | TrentCreek | 5 to 20 Mbps downstream and 2 to 5 Mbps upstream for $50, |
| 06:51.05 | HarryR | I could carry my imac with me everywhere |
| 06:51.10 | coppice | it took people a bloody long time to figure out its somethign you offer for free as a sweetner for something else - e.g. overpriced coffee |
| 06:51.12 | HarryR | it's got a handle, so it's "portable" |
| 06:51.13 | HarryR | :D |
| 06:51.46 | coppice | the verizon fibre rollout looks really devious |
| 06:51.54 | HarryR | TrentCreek, I pay about the same for 20mbit down and 2-3mbit up |
| 06:52.08 | HarryR | although a friend in japan gets 100mbit synchronous for about $45 |
| 06:52.32 | TrentCreek | from what service? I only get 10 down and 1 up for $54 |
| 06:53.03 | coppice | We can get 1G up and down for $150. I wonder how many consumers subscribe to that? |
| 06:53.17 | TrentCreek | japan is a country with everyone packed together hence easy to upgrade their equipment |
| 06:53.38 | coppice | americans love that bogus argument |
| 06:53.42 | HarryR | hrm I cant find the link again |
| 06:54.02 | HarryR | coppice, 1g down? |
| 06:54.25 | HarryR | and why not just run your DC off it :D |
| 06:54.33 | coppice | its a fibre offering, and its symetric. I've never heard of anyone subscribing to it, though |
| 06:54.49 | HarryR | surely you mean $1500 ? |
| 06:55.01 | coppice | you only get a dynamic IP. A DC would be hard |
| 06:55.08 | HarryR | dyndns :D |
| 06:55.12 | coppice | US$150 |
| 06:55.20 | HarryR | hrm, which provider's that? |
| 06:55.41 | HarryR | oooh, hongkong |
| 06:55.44 | coppice | it was about $220 when it launched, but they have been offering it lower |
| 06:55.47 | TrentCreek | it's no boguus argument..it you got 100 million packed together into 100 Square miles...easy to make money ratehr them all spread out |
| 06:56.38 | HarryR | TrentCreek, there's more fiber in america than you'd normally think |
| 06:56.42 | HarryR | in the UK it's _everywhere_ |
| 06:56.49 | _x86_ | f |
| 06:56.49 | HarryR | but the lastmile is copper |
| 06:57.07 | coppice | every developed country has |
| 06:57.08 | coppice | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.10 | coppice | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.11 | coppice | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.13 | coppice | the argument is bogus |
| 06:57.25 | HarryR | they could give you 100mbit to your door |
| 06:57.54 | HarryR | without any architecture/infrastructure upgrade or overhaul |
| 06:58.11 | HarryR | and bandwidth would get a lot cheaper in the UK |
| 06:58.26 | TrentCreek | not really. |
| 06:58.42 | HarryR | I remember paying 2p a meg in ~2000 for traffic |
| 06:58.48 | TrentCreek | The whole US is fibre except for connections to homes |
| 06:58.56 | HarryR | more people get higher bandwidth home & work connections, bandwidth gets cheaper |
| 06:58.57 | TrentCreek | that is a LOT of copper wire |
| 06:59.12 | HarryR | TrentCreek, what, and they can't do 100mbit over copper? |
| 06:59.15 | coppice | the whole of every developed country is fibre, except for the last mile |
| 06:59.28 | TrentCreek | not at those lengths |
| 07:00.10 | HarryR | get rid of lastmile copper, wimax base station at every fiber termination point |
| 07:00.14 | TrentCreek | remember CAT 5 and 6 is copper and max lenght of 300 feet at 100Mbs |
| 07:00.30 | HarryR | hrm |
| 07:00.50 | coppice | who runs ethernet over the last mile? |
| 07:01.24 | HarryR | definately not something i'd do as a teenage experiment with a handful of repeaters stealing power from phone boxes |
| 07:01.57 | TrentCreek | that is what I mean |
| 07:02.16 | TrentCreek | coppers has its limits befoe signal degrades |
| 07:03.41 | HarryR | re-run copper in high-density areas with fiber then? |
| 07:04.08 | HarryR | there are like 20+ cable customers on my street all with the same provider |
| 07:04.53 | TrentCreek | Although 11 megabits is its fastest "basic" residential product, Hawaiian Telcom can provide Internet service, with special equipment, at speeds in excess of 100 megabits per second, said Mike McHale, Hawaiian Telcom's senior vice president for sales and marketing. |
| 07:05.35 | TrentCreek | yeah..like NY City is about it |
| 07:05.54 | TrentCreek | That is the only city in the US that is similar to othr high density cities |
| 07:06.28 | TrentCreek | Los Angeles is Second largest, but its just a giant suburb |
| 07:06.58 | _x86_ | NYC > LA? |
| 07:07.39 | TrentCreek | yes |
| 07:07.57 | _x86_ | didnt know that |
| 07:09.10 | alrs | ! |
| 07:09.36 | coppice | if you look at the coutries which widely offer 100Mbps to homes, they do this over fibre, so the density isn't helping them reuse existing cables |
| 07:10.07 | TrentCreek | but helps them in costs |
| 07:10.38 | TrentCreek | imaging the night mare of trying to run new fibre across all those suburbs in LA? |
| 07:10.46 | coppice | not really. working in dense city areas gets very costly |
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| 07:10.53 | TrentCreek | wrong |
| 07:11.14 | HarryR | instead of running fiber, as a temporary solution |
| 07:11.28 | _x86_ | HarryR: you mean 3G? |
| 07:11.33 | _x86_ | wimax == 3G now |
| 07:11.45 | HarryR | 3g = marketing term |
| 07:11.58 | HarryR | is fiber 2g then? |
| 07:11.59 | coppice | if you look at the towns were the early experimental fibre rollouts occured, they are mostly very low density places. why would they choose the most expensive place to experiment? |
| 07:12.05 | TrentCreek | In high denisty cities you only need to run cable in utility tunnels already available. The da hood youhave to dig or run on poles |
| 07:12.05 | HarryR | and cat5 1g? |
| 07:12.24 | TrentCreek | not or Cat 5..try cat 6 |
| 07:12.53 | HarryR | and coax copper 0g? |
| 07:13.08 | _x86_ | HarryR: 3G is a technology... commonly used in cell phones |
| 07:13.24 | coppice | in dense cities (I live in the densest of all) the cable ducts are usually full, causing big problems trying to get extra fibre in. low density area almost always have spare duct capacity |
| 07:13.28 | _x86_ | HarryR: WiMax is now part of the 3G standard |
| 07:13.40 | HarryR | ah |
| 07:13.57 | TrentCreek | In NYC you got a lot of space |
| 07:14.00 | coppice | *the* 3G standard? which if the several 3G standards would be *the* 3G standard |
| 07:14.23 | _x86_ | coppice: IMT-2000 or whatever :P |
| 07:14.36 | _x86_ | coppice: ask the ITU |
| 07:16.08 | coppice | I don't think the wimax people would like being called 3G, when the HSDPA networks all call themselves 3.5G :-) |
| 07:17.16 | coppice | TrentCreek: so, you say NY ducts have lots of space, and they are at a disadvantage to asian ducts which are all jam packed? does that make sense? |
| 07:17.18 | _x86_ | coppice: the ITU just included wimax as part of 3G... grab a newspaper some time ;) |
| 07:18.00 | TrentCreek | yes |
| 07:18.14 | TrentCreek | NYC dpe snpt have 100 million people like HK ;-) |
| 07:18.44 | coppice | HK has 7M. don't exagerate |
| 07:19.56 | TrentCreek | okay |
| 07:20.07 | TrentCreek | 7 mil packed into 4 city blocks |
| 07:20.30 | coppice | 7M packed into a area where london has 8 or 9M |
| 07:21.27 | HarryR | 10 |
| 07:21.32 | TrentCreek | Oops..I was wrong NYC is not most dense |
| 07:21.47 | coppice | london may have 10, but HK is a little smaller than london |
| 07:22.01 | HarryR | ok small exaggeration |
| 07:22.02 | HarryR | 7,512,400 |
| 07:22.08 | HarryR | from 2006 |
| 07:22.09 | TrentCreek | Union City, NJ is most packed city in US |
| 07:22.17 | HarryR | 609 square miles |
| 07:22.51 | coppice | the key difference is over half of HK is country park, so the people are packed into the other half |
| 07:23.00 | HarryR | bloody hell, 12k people per square mile |
| 07:23.43 | coppice | I wonder what they are counting as london. people usually say london is about 10M |
| 07:24.04 | HarryR | greater london, everything inside the m25 |
| 07:24.42 | coppice | the m25 goes well outside greater london, though it probably doesn't affect the head count much |
| 07:24.51 | TrentCreek | NYC 27,083/sq mi HK 16,469.6 /sq mi London 12,331/sq mi |
| 07:25.27 | HarryR | coppice, I consider the M25 to be greater london |
| 07:25.37 | HarryR | and just about everybody I know does too |
| 07:26.01 | coppice | but like I said, those in HK are occupying less than half the area. london and (I think) NY are pretty much all used for people |
| 07:26.34 | coppice | yeah, the M25 has become a nice easy to spot dividing line on the map :-) |
| 07:27.13 | coppice | those numbers made the real density of NY not far behind HK. surprising |
| 07:27.26 | coppice | s/made/put |
| 07:47.56 | TrentCreek | wake up |
| 07:50.23 | coppice | zzzzzZZZZZZZZZ |
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| 08:02.46 | knarfly | 8-) |
| 08:21.01 | TrentCreek | Hows that Connection in HK? |
| 08:21.52 | coppice | how is which connection in HK? |
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| 08:38.30 | TrentCreek | the super fast one |
| 08:39.45 | TrentCreek | or is that in Islamic Republic of Londistan? |
| 08:42.51 | coppice | dunno. I still haven't heard of anyone subscribing to it. the same providers 100M service is supposed to be OK |
| 08:44.43 | knarfly | I want to make this work with my sip phone http://www.pastebin.ca/744280 |
| 08:45.19 | knarfly | How can I get one of my sip phones to be able to pick up the incoming POTS calls during the 20 second wait period? |
| 08:47.34 | knarfly | ~book |
| 08:47.35 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf |
| 08:49.12 | lowlevel | woooo pretty book |
| 08:49.13 | lowlevel | :) |
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| 09:02.17 | candyban | Hi guys |
| 09:03.44 | candyban | I have just setup my first asterisk box and I'm able to "register" my hard phone and soft phone. (Hard phone gets dial tone). But when I try to call from one to the other I always get a busy signal |
| 09:03.57 | candyban | even wehn I dial *45 I get a busy signal |
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| 09:06.11 | candyban | anyone an idea where to start looking ? |
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| 09:10.27 | TrentCreek | i should move there |
| 09:10.53 | HarryR | candyban, what is *45? |
| 09:11.06 | TrentCreek | it bans candy |
| 09:11.15 | HarryR | candyban, connect to asterisk with verbose level turned right up |
| 09:11.20 | HarryR | and see what's goingon |
| 09:12.04 | candyban | HarryR: I don't see any calls coming in or going out |
| 09:12.34 | HarryR | you're sure their registered? |
| 09:12.43 | HarryR | can you get a sip log from one of your phones |
| 09:12.53 | candyban | only 'Regsitration from '<sip:line@<ASTERISKIP>' failed for '<IP>' |
| 09:13.08 | HarryR | so you're not registered |
| 09:13.14 | HarryR | which is why your phones can't make calls |
| 09:13.54 | candyban | HarryR: I'll try again from scratch |
| 09:14.03 | HarryR | k |
| 09:14.09 | TrentCreek | You dont need to register them |
| 09:14.26 | TrentCreek | You only need to connect via IP address..much simpler |
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| 09:16.16 | HarryR | TrentCreek, if neither of them register, you wont be able to make calls through asterisk to either of them |
| 09:17.30 | TrentCreek | not true |
| 09:17.47 | TrentCreek | my sip device is not registered |
| 09:17.52 | HarryR | i'm presuming you have phones registering to extensions |
| 09:18.01 | TrentCreek | no |
| 09:18.01 | HarryR | and you have asterisk call whatever's registered with that extension |
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| 09:18.10 | TrentCreek | you only need to give them a name |
| 09:18.12 | HarryR | unless you've got a weird setup :D |
| 09:19.29 | TrentCreek | nope |
| 09:19.37 | TrentCreek | just listed IP address |
| 09:25.18 | TrentCreek | and never register |
| 09:26.06 | TrentCreek | now...how do we control call cues? |
| 09:26.23 | HarryR | control as in? |
| 09:26.29 | TrentCreek | next caller |
| 09:26.40 | TrentCreek | guess we got a write an app for that |
| 09:27.03 | HarryR | I wrote some nifty stuff using manager, but not open-source :\ |
| 09:27.12 | TrentCreek | manager? |
| 09:27.18 | HarryR | the manager interface |
| 09:27.42 | TrentCreek | can't have that running for the average joe user |
| 09:27.54 | candyban | HarryR: ok, it's workign now ... changed 2 things ... told my cisco "user_info: phone" and had a typo/thinko in extensions.conf |
| 09:27.55 | TrentCreek | need a user window |
| 09:28.01 | candyban | HarryR: thanks a lot |
| 09:28.03 | HarryR | candyban, cool |
| 09:28.15 | HarryR | TrentCreek, yah you could just write an app that uses manager |
| 09:28.21 | HarryR | and hands events out to your regular user app |
| 09:28.30 | HarryR | or some nifty ajax thing that runs in a web browser |
| 09:28.49 | HarryR | hrm, I think flash operator panel might be able to do it actually |
| 09:28.57 | TrentCreek | thos dont sounf very good |
| 09:29.12 | TrentCreek | flash oprator paneL? |
| 09:29.17 | HarryR | yeah google it |
| 09:29.28 | HarryR | cant remember off hand if it can do queue monitoring though |
| 09:30.03 | TrentCreek | hmmm |
| 09:30.27 | TrentCreek | Attendant transfers (sortof) |
| 09:31.33 | TrentCreek | Queue status (number of users waiting) |
| 09:31.51 | TrentCreek | Automatically pop up web page with customer details |
| 09:32.08 | HarryR | yup |
| 09:32.30 | TrentCreek | hmmm..this may work...thanks |
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| 09:32.38 | HarryR | :D |
| 09:32.41 | TrentCreek | now if I can get it to install properly |
| 09:32.52 | TrentCreek | I gave up on AsteriskGUI |
| 09:32.56 | HarryR | ehe |
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| 09:34.08 | TrentCreek | the manual say "bla bla bla and that's it and your off and running" |
| 09:34.11 | TrentCreek | yeah WTFE |
| 09:39.18 | HarryR | urghh |
| 09:39.43 | HarryR | carrier grade features :D |
| 09:39.55 | HarryR | not sure if I want to open-source it though |
| 09:40.16 | HarryR | would probably be breaching my contract if I did, conflict of interest and all |
| 09:40.22 | TrentCreek | isn't that what the Asterisk license requires? ;-) |
| 09:41.06 | HarryR | uh no |
| 09:41.18 | HarryR | it's separate to asterisk and not restricted to be used with asterisk only |
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| 09:45.01 | TrentCreek | haha |
| 09:47.06 | HarryR | per second pre-paid billing :D |
| 09:47.35 | TrentCreek | call is a2billing and hand it over |
| 09:48.02 | HarryR | a2billing is a mess aparently |
| 09:49.11 | TrentCreek | why? |
| 09:49.32 | HarryR | i'll have a tinker with it later |
| 09:49.54 | TrentCreek | i got it and it works fine.. |
| 09:50.09 | TrentCreek | just no customer service portal |
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| 09:50.25 | TrentCreek | i mean for handling calls |
| 09:58.01 | HarryR | TrentCreek, i'm focusing at the moment just on the core call billing stuff |
| 09:58.26 | HarryR | stuff that i've traditionally seen as a problem is when you have one account putting through lots of concurrent calls |
| 09:58.42 | HarryR | billing tends to get screwed up because it doesn't account for the other calls going through |
| 09:59.31 | HarryR | so i'm billing per-second, and based on available funds and other calls, it'll cut the calls off when their available credit is 0 |
| 10:02.59 | CBU[^_^]M`` | wa |
| 10:07.22 | TrentCreek | so you are recreating the wheel ;-) |
| 10:09.07 | HarryR | "doing it properly" |
| 10:09.29 | HarryR | just carrier grade stuff which I haven't seen publicly available for asterisk already |
| 10:12.12 | TrentCreek | i have not heard too many complaints about a2billing in that area |
| 10:12.39 | HarryR | yah but who puts through 500 concurrent calls with a2billing? |
| 10:14.26 | TrentCreek | I don;t know, but I have read about ~250 |
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| 13:58.48 | bminish | anyone here who can help me debug a zaptel problem |
| 13:59.15 | mvanbaak | tell us the problem |
| 13:59.21 | mvanbaak | ~ask |
| 13:59.21 | jbot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 14:00.00 | bminish | well I have a 4 port card pots two FXO two FXS |
| 14:00.27 | bminish | 2 are pots external 2 are internal extgenstions |
| 14:00.46 | bminish | if internally I dial SIP to one of the zpatel ports all works |
| 14:01.12 | blitzrage | pastebin the relevant parts of your configuration |
| 14:01.16 | bminish | if external POTS call comes in it can ring out on the internal lines via the zaptel |
| 14:01.22 | blitzrage | that'll give us a better idea as to what is wrong |
| 14:01.32 | bminish | if external sip call comes in the internal zaptel ports are always detected as busy |
| 14:01.58 | bminish | # Span 2: WCTDM/0 "Wildcard TDM400P REV I Board 1" |
| 14:01.58 | bminish | fxoks=1 |
| 14:01.58 | bminish | fxoks=2 |
| 14:01.58 | bminish | fxsks=3 |
| 14:01.58 | bminish | fxsks=4 |
| 14:02.01 | blitzrage | no |
| 14:02.04 | mvanbaak | pastebin it please |
| 14:02.04 | blitzrage | ~pastebin |
| 14:02.05 | jbot | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 14:02.09 | bminish | sri |
| 14:02.25 | blitzrage | what do you mean if an external call comes into an internal port? |
| 14:02.46 | bminish | http://pastebin.com/d79689425 |
| 14:02.49 | mvanbaak | I think he means a call coming in on POTS going to a analog phone |
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| 14:03.13 | bminish | if somone dials my POTS number I have it configured to ring my internal analaog and sip phones |
| 14:03.22 | bminish | I have incoming sip configured the same |
| 14:03.24 | mvanbaak | and that works fine right ? |
| 14:03.34 | bminish | yes |
| 14:03.47 | mvanbaak | but from a sip phone to an analog phone is not working ? |
| 14:03.59 | bminish | if someone dials my sip # it only rings the sip extentions not to the analog phones |
| 14:04.11 | bminish | but internally sip to analaog works fine |
| 14:04.39 | bminish | using latest zaptel drivers and asterisk versions |
| 14:04.45 | mvanbaak | pastebin the extensions.conf part for both the incoming from pots and incoming from sip |
| 14:04.54 | bminish | it all worked ok with the 1.2 versions |
| 14:04.57 | bminish | hang on |
| 14:05.00 | mvanbaak | they must be different |
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| 14:06.11 | tzafrir | please provide a trace from SIP to the analog phone |
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| 14:06.15 | bminish | http://pastebin.com/d2e1b7620 |
| 14:06.17 | tzafrir | from the CLI (asterisk -r) |
| 14:06.52 | tzafrir | that is your extensions.conf ? |
| 14:06.56 | tzafrir | all of it? |
| 14:07.01 | bminish | tzafrir, what do you want to see from the cli? |
| 14:07.16 | bminish | tazno just the relevant bits, want the lot ? |
| 14:07.46 | bminish | the cli just reports the internal analog as busy for incoming sip calls |
| 14:07.47 | tzafrir | because you left out the name of the section under which those "important bits" reside |
| 14:08.00 | tzafrir | sip show users |
| 14:08.17 | tzafrir | (careful with the output: it may contain passwords) |
| 14:08.30 | mvanbaak | it will contain passwords |
| 14:08.46 | bminish | the incoming calls have this issue with IAX too |
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| 14:09.21 | mvanbaak | blitzrage: all rebooted correctly ? |
| 14:09.35 | blitzrage | mvanbaak: yep! now I can read ext2/3 in osx :) |
| 14:09.46 | blitzrage | osx reboots soooo fast |
| 14:09.50 | mvanbaak | yay ! |
| 14:09.50 | bminish | here's the full extentions file http://pastebin.com/d747e106c |
| 14:10.08 | blitzrage | mvanbaak: so now I can put some DIFFERENT music on my iPod other than the stuff I've been listening to for 6 months :) |
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| 14:12.33 | mvanbaak | lol blitzrage |
| 14:12.43 | mvanbaak | blitzrage: that's why I use a fileserver for all my music |
| 14:12.49 | mvanbaak | and use that in itunes |
| 14:12.49 | bminish | si show users here http://pastebin.com/d62179d9a |
| 14:13.02 | mvanbaak | thanks to firefly it shows up as shared library in my itunes |
| 14:13.08 | blitzrage | mvanbaak: ya, I'll do that later after I figure out how to setup shares on my server :) |
| 14:13.13 | blitzrage | firefly? |
| 14:13.40 | mvanbaak | firefly == itunes shared library server |
| 14:13.47 | blitzrage | oh neat |
| 14:13.53 | tzafrir | bminish, so what happens when a call comes in? |
| 14:13.55 | mvanbaak | it runs on linux |
| 14:13.56 | blitzrage | gah! I can't read the dir with the music, lol |
| 14:13.57 | bminish | transferring incoming IAX or sip calls to the internal analog does not work either ' everyone is busy/congested at this time |
| 14:14.13 | blitzrage | mvanbaak: I'll have to get that installed then.... guess I'm gonna go to the gym with the same music as the last 6 months :) |
| 14:14.22 | mvanbaak | hahahaha |
| 14:14.27 | mvanbaak | wanna borrow my ipod ? |
| 14:14.30 | blitzrage | pls |
| 14:14.36 | blitzrage | at least I got some Chevelle on there |
| 14:14.40 | bminish | tzafrir, incoming IAX/SIP internal sip gones ring analgo doesnt. incoming analog all extensions ring and transfers work normally |
| 14:15.08 | tzafrir | bminish, run asterisk -rvvv |
| 14:15.18 | tzafrir | and see what happens when you call in |
| 14:15.24 | mvanbaak | it has a lot of metal on it, dont know if you like that |
| 14:15.35 | mvanbaak | but also franz ferdinand and gabriel rios |
| 14:15.38 | tzafrir | I suspect that the call is not going into the "incoming" context |
| 14:15.39 | blitzrage | mvanbaak: not so much for running... I have one of those tiny shuffles |
| 14:15.55 | blitzrage | Set(TRANSFER_CONTEXT=incoming) I think |
| 14:17.37 | bminish | ok here's the output http://pastebin.com/d7ad4d2d5 |
| 14:18.52 | mvanbaak | ah |
| 14:19.02 | mvanbaak | try to set it to another codec |
| 14:19.10 | mvanbaak | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.13 | mvanbaak | there's the problem |
| 14:19.29 | mvanbaak | in iax.conf |
| 14:19.32 | mvanbaak | set this: |
| 14:19.36 | mvanbaak | disallow=all |
| 14:19.39 | mvanbaak | allow=alaw |
| 14:19.42 | mvanbaak | allow=ulaw |
| 14:19.51 | mvanbaak | then reload asterisk |
| 14:19.54 | mvanbaak | and try again |
| 14:21.01 | bminish | mvanbaak, you have cracked it! THANKYOU |
| 14:21.44 | mvanbaak | no problem :) |
| 14:21.44 | bminish | but is there any way I can use a low rate codec (I have a lic for 729 ) bandwidth is in short supply here |
| 14:22.03 | mvanbaak | bminish: did you install the g729 codec on this asterisk box ? |
| 14:22.18 | bminish | i think so |
| 14:22.32 | blitzrage | core show g729 .... I think? |
| 14:22.38 | blitzrage | or g729 show or something like that |
| 14:22.39 | mvanbaak | I think so too |
| 14:22.47 | mvanbaak | not sure, never used g729 |
| 14:22.49 | blitzrage | mvanbaak: at least that's what it SHOULD be :D |
| 14:22.54 | mvanbaak | lol blitzrage |
| 14:22.56 | mvanbaak | yeah yea |
| 14:23.00 | blitzrage | hahahaha |
| 14:23.16 | blitzrage | stick* |
| 14:23.33 | mvanbaak | :) |
| 14:24.14 | blitzrage | damnit... now I'm working on firefly server to see just how quick I can get this setup |
| 14:24.28 | mvanbaak | hahahaha |
| 14:24.35 | mvanbaak | skip gym |
| 14:24.36 | bminish | no such command :-( Guess I need to ensure that it's really there |
| 14:24.38 | mvanbaak | this is more fun |
| 14:25.02 | blitzrage | mvanbaak: ya, but there are girls at the gym :) |
| 14:25.18 | mvanbaak | skip firefly and go to the gym |
| 14:25.25 | blitzrage | and it's getting late enough that it'll start filling up if I don't go soon... which means I'll be waiting for people, and that annoys me :) |
| 14:25.31 | blitzrage | yay... it compiled |
| 14:26.03 | mvanbaak | ah |
| 14:26.10 | mvanbaak | I did: apt-get install firefly |
| 14:26.23 | mvanbaak | typed in a password and a path |
| 14:26.29 | blitzrage | ya... not in centos unfortunatly |
| 14:26.30 | mvanbaak | and a minute later it was running |
| 14:26.30 | mvanbaak | :) |
| 14:27.07 | mvanbaak | blitzrage: here, have a debian cd |
| 14:27.33 | blitzrage | ewwww |
| 14:29.31 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 14:29.46 | mvanbaak | gheh, there's an OpenBSD port as well |
| 14:30.01 | mvanbaak | ok, need more coffee |
| 14:30.02 | mvanbaak | brb |
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| 14:35.15 | bminish | mvanbaak, codec now correctly reinstalled and all works fine with G729, thanks for you help I was really stumped with this one |
| 14:37.16 | mvanbaak | no problem bminish |
| 14:37.19 | mvanbaak | glad it's working now |
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| 15:06.08 | Kurome|Takai | http://world7.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=113022465 |
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| 15:09.27 | katsuodo | Hello Everyone |
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| 15:22.44 | katsuodo | Hello jbot and dlynes_home |
| 15:26.35 | katsuodo | if a channel is busy the dial app will use n+101 is 101 written in stone or static? |
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| 15:40.05 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, N+101 is deprecated stuff that should have been left behind in 1.2 |
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| 15:41.15 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, you should have "priorityjumping=no" in [general] and you should be using the DIALSTATUS variable to determine what you want to do. |
| 15:42.28 | dlynes_home | katsuodo: if you use priorityjumping in 1.4/1.6, you'll find some unexpected behavior when you start using some of the dialplan applications |
| 15:42.44 | katsuodo | [TK]D-Fender thanks for because this n+101 has me baffeled because no clear understanding how to use |
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| 15:43.03 | dlynes_home | katsuodo: it won't be unexpected if you read the documentation very closely, but ... |
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| 15:43.30 | katsuodo | dlynes_home hello and I will read it |
| 15:43.48 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, If you had "exten => s,2,Dial(SIP/100)" and they were busy, it would jump to "s,103" to continue execution. |
| 15:44.08 | katsuodo | great |
| 15:44.20 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, Don't forget that "n"'s get renumbed on LOAD |
| 15:44.29 | katsuodo | ? |
| 15:44.34 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, basically just don't do it :) |
| 15:44.46 | katsuodo | gotcha |
| 15:45.08 | katsuodo | installed Asterisk 1.4.13 |
| 15:45.15 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, "n" = next. you know how you HAVE to have a "1" priority and can then follow it with "n" priorities? Well as they get loaded in order, "n" gets CALCULATED |
| 15:46.42 | katsuodo | I understand the n priority. I was trying to plan extensions.conf for incoming call and the on the phone can not answer the incoming call |
| 15:47.29 | katsuodo | and the person on the phone can not answer incoming because he/she is already talking on the phone |
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| 15:53.08 | katsuodo | [TK]D-Fender does it make difference if it is analog or ip phone? |
| 15:53.21 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, no. |
| 15:53.27 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, busy is busy. |
| 15:54.11 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, However something you should eb aware of is if the "phone" COULD accept another call (call waiting, etc), and it is ignored (as often happens), then the call is not BUSY, it is "NOANSWER" |
| 15:54.35 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, Meaning the use of "busy" vs "unavailable" messages in VOICEMAIL is somewhat worthless. |
| 15:54.43 | [TK]D-Fender | katsuodo, And bad for other reasons too |
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| 15:57.55 | jmls | stupid question coming up (my excuse is that I'm really tired) |
| 15:58.50 | jmls | what would cause a cisco 7960 to register with asterisk, receive calls, but not make any call (reorder). But an aastra 9133i works just fine on the same system |
| 15:59.09 | jmls | _all_ the 7940 and 7960 have this problem. All of the aastras work |
| 15:59.26 | jmls | what am I stupidlly missing ? |
| 15:59.31 | [TK]D-Fender | jmls, Check that you CONTEXT is what you think it should be... |
| 15:59.51 | [TK]D-Fender | jmls, And of course SIP debug should tell you all this... |
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| 16:04.52 | jmls | [TK]D-Fender: I've looked in the debug, and this jumps out ; SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden |
| 16:05.02 | jmls | Found no matching peer or user for '192.168.0.22:50467' |
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| 16:05.33 | jmls | sip show peer 5706 |
| 16:05.36 | jmls | Reg. Contact : sip:5706@192.168.0.22:5060 |
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| 16:12.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jmls, thats for an inbound call... |
| 16:12.56 | [TK]D-Fender | jmls, perhaps you're missing an auth user |
| 16:16.32 | jmls | would it still register if that was the case ? |
| 16:17.40 | [TK]D-Fender | jmls, Possible... I don't know Cisco's, but you have have a reg server auth, inbound & outbound all seperate in theory and different IP's for each as well |
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| 16:58.37 | jmls | ok, it must be a * setting somewhere. I've just manually changed the outbound proxy and register proxy to another * server, and the phone works just fine |
| 16:59.17 | jmls | does type=peer and type=friend make a difference ? |
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| 17:03.14 | jmls | why, is another question. |
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| 17:03.44 | jmls | I changed type=peer to type=friend, reloaded sip and the cisco can now make calls. Why is that ? |
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| 17:28.09 | Langenscheidts | Hello. I'm just beginning to learn to write code in extensions.conf and need to prompt the user for their CID number if they called without sending it. Does someone know how to do this please? |
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| 17:29.17 | Langenscheidts | I tried this, but both lines are displayed: |
| 17:29.18 | Langenscheidts | exten => s/,n,NoOp(No CID) |
| 17:29.24 | Langenscheidts | exten => s,n,NoOp(CID OK) |
| 17:29.43 | Langenscheidts | I read that "extension/," means that the CID is not available |
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| 18:01.16 | roxlu | mvanbaak: are you here? |
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| 18:02.15 | mvanbaak | yeah |
| 18:02.20 | roxlu | yes! |
| 18:04.18 | roxlu | mvanbaak: can I send you a /msg ? |
| 18:05.39 | mvanbaak | :) |
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| 18:18.55 | tzafrir | mvanbaak, anything wrong with lists.three-dimensional.net ? |
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| 18:25.42 | mvanbaak | tzafrir: how come ? |
| 18:25.48 | mvanbaak | tzafrir: I moved it to a new box |
| 18:25.51 | mvanbaak | should be working tho |
| 18:26.13 | mvanbaak | it isn't working anymore ? |
| 18:26.44 | tzafrir | I sent a mail and it got rejected. "no such mailbox" |
| 18:27.00 | mvanbaak | what was the address you sent it to ? |
| 18:27.39 | mvanbaak | let me know and I'll fix it |
| 18:29.31 | tzafrir | bristuff-users@lists.three-dimensional.net |
| 18:29.41 | mvanbaak | ok, let me fix it |
| 18:29.43 | tzafrir | just sent again . Let's see if it bounces again |
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| 18:30.06 | tzafrir | bristuff-users@lists.three-dimensional.net>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table |
| 18:30.12 | mvanbaak | hhmm |
| 18:30.13 | mvanbaak | weird |
| 18:30.19 | mvanbaak | oh dammit ! |
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| 18:36.28 | mvanbaak | tzafrir: should the list allow posts from non-members ? |
| 18:36.52 | tzafrir | I don't think so. |
| 18:36.57 | tzafrir | did it? |
| 18:36.57 | mvanbaak | ok, then try again :) |
| 18:37.19 | mvanbaak | I dont know, the old server is down permanently, so I'll have to dig in the backups |
| 18:37.23 | mvanbaak | but I dont think it did |
| 18:37.29 | mvanbaak | to prevent spammers |
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| 18:38.27 | mvanbaak | ok, that went through :) |
| 18:38.50 | mvanbaak | I noticed my email address and florian overkamps one |
| 18:38.58 | mvanbaak | so it must have gone through |
| 18:39.33 | mvanbaak | nice, thanks for the new bristuff version tzafrir |
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| 18:49.13 | Shaun222 | anybody seen issues with polycom phones not setting the time correctly... i have sntp set to a ntp server, -8 offset, time shows 7:49 right now when it's 11:49 |
| 18:49.28 | Shaun222 | ntp server is working fine. |
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| 19:03.22 | WilliamK | Shaun222, almost sounds like a daylight savings time issue |
| 19:04.26 | Shaun222 | WilliamK: if it was off a hour sure.. |
| 19:04.47 | Shaun222 | but not as far as it is. |
| 19:26.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Shaun222, lol... pastebin it :) |
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| 19:37.29 | CunningPike | Shaun222: Your offset isn't taking effect, it sounds like |
| 19:42.11 | [TK]D-Fender | CunningPike, I'm pretty sure it IS..... |
| 19:46.06 | nestAr | Is there a list of Polycom error codes around? I am getting error 0x20 |
| 19:46.22 | nestAr | ~polycom |
| 19:46.22 | jbot | it has been said that polycom is the manufacturer of one of the best IP phones in the market. http://polycom.com - Note: Here is where you can get some downloads: http://www.polycom.com/resource_center/0,,pw-6812-12612,00.html |
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| 19:59.25 | [TK]D-Fender | nestAr, that a XML config error |
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| 20:02.08 | pkwong | hi all. |
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| 20:16.01 | k31th | am i correct in thinking alot of people seem to run asterisk on centos? |
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| 20:17.10 | k31th | so we won.t discuss prebuilt |
| 20:17.11 | k31th | binaries very much in this book.and besides, don.t you want to be l33t?* |
| 20:17.14 | k31th | lol wtf |
| 20:24.44 | NirS | k31th, what book are you talking about? |
| 20:24.55 | NirS | I just finished writing a book for Packt Publishing about AsteriskNOW |
| 20:26.13 | k31th | the asterisk book 2nd edition |
| 20:26.26 | k31th | packt publishing |
| 20:26.30 | NirS | oh, I think it was already out |
| 20:26.42 | k31th | NirS: are you running asterisknow? |
| 20:26.46 | NirS | yes |
| 20:26.52 | NirS | I have a few installs running AsteriskNOW |
| 20:26.52 | k31th | beta 6? |
| 20:26.55 | NirS | yes |
| 20:26.59 | k31th | NirS: does it run well? |
| 20:27.00 | NirS | the book is about beta 6 |
| 20:27.10 | k31th | NirS: is it published? |
| 20:27.15 | NirS | well, it is more or less stable |
| 20:27.23 | k31th | ill msg you this is a bit off topic? |
| 20:27.25 | NirS | just still has some nicks and nacks you need to get used to |
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| 20:33.35 | roxlu | hi |
| 20:34.42 | roxlu | I'm testing my budgetphone account... the first step is incoming.. But it only works when I add: exten => s,n,Dial(SIP/1002) in the [default] section... My [incomingcalls] extensions isn't reached somehow.. Someone who can help me a bit? |
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| 21:06.00 | roxlu | what does this mean: Found no matching peer or user for '89.21.228.150:5060' |
| 21:06.12 | bkw_ | no peer with that ip/port combo exists |
| 21:06.14 | bkw_ | in sip.conf |
| 21:06.29 | roxlu | hmm okay?? |
| 21:07.32 | roxlu | I've registered my asterisk to my voip provider using sip. When I call I can't route the call to one of my internal (1001, 1002) phones... |
| 21:07.41 | roxlu | Could this be a cause of that? |
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| 21:23.16 | fbnts | hi, Just wondered if anyone knew the state of play with using a linux Xen host with the Zaptel ztdummy module? I have tried googling but can't work out if its been figured out yet |
| 21:24.02 | alrs | fbnts: I don't think that works. I've passed-through control of a pci device to the domU, and that seems to work |
| 21:24.43 | fbnts | Thanks for the reply, I presume you would need to be the system admin to configure that? |
| 21:25.25 | fbnts | The Xen host is through a hosting company, we intend to buy a full dedicated server eventually but need to prove it works before I can get the go-ahead |
| 21:26.52 | alrs | fbnts: you can get proof-of-concept working without a timing source. You'll have crappy audio quality for the playback of prompts, and you won't have any of the meetme conferencing stuff. |
| 21:28.36 | fbnts | Its slightly more than proof-of-concept to be honest, we need to test it in one department. Its currently configured on SIP but don't have musiconhold or the conferencing |
| 21:31.28 | roxlu | someone here with a budgetphone account? |
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| 22:41.02 | saladino | is somebody using voztelecom? |
| 22:41.28 | peanut- | no, but it sounds funny. |
| 22:41.36 | saladino | xD |
| 22:43.47 | [TK]D-Fender | saladino, No. Nobody signed up with their service, EVER. |
| 22:44.31 | saladino | i know people using voztelecom |
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| 22:46.09 | peanut- | [TK]D-Fender: I think he meant "Is anyone here using voztelecom so I can direct a specific question towards you?" |
| 22:46.29 | [TK]D-Fender | ~ask |
| 22:46.30 | jbot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 22:46.32 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:46.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Foreplay is good for the bedroom, not #asterisk |
| 22:46.51 | peanut- | ~opinions |
| 22:46.52 | jbot | opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, they all stink, and it's really not polite to air yours in public |
| 22:47.24 | [TK]D-Fender | heh |
| 22:48.03 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, funny how so very many people come in here looking for others opinions on providers, hardwares, methodology, etc.... |
| 22:48.31 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, Guess that makes the "~opinions" commentary somewhat mood and out of context. |
| 22:48.40 | peanut- | so is most of it |
| 22:48.55 | peanut- | you use it like some kind of holy text |
| 22:49.58 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, use what as "holy text" exactly? |
| 22:50.39 | peanut- | the bot |
| 22:51.42 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, Guess you missed the memo..... I've done more jbot training that propbably the rest of this channel COMBINED. Either for adding, correcting, or elaborating on its information. |
| 22:52.29 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, Easily 90% of the common ones used here were written by me, and are the collective opinions of the more senior and knowledgabl of this room. |
| 22:52.38 | peanut- | ah, so those are all Your opinions |
| 22:52.51 | peanut- | ~opinions |
| 22:52.51 | jbot | opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, they all stink, and it's really not polite to air yours in public |
| 22:53.10 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, I don't own them, I merely share them and wrote them :) |
| 22:53.26 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, And I never said I subscribed to that one. |
| 22:53.33 | peanut- | you don't? |
| 22:54.00 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, Try not to think of me so one-dimensionally.... |
| 22:54.18 | peanut- | fine, I'll give you two, but that's it. |
| 22:54.40 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, Your generosity is overwhelming... |
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| 22:55.11 | Undrhil | Um. Thanks. |
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| 22:55.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Strangers always have the best candy.... |
| 22:55.32 | peanut- | I've got more in my van. |
| 22:55.39 | Undrhil | Hehe |
| 22:55.54 | Undrhil | Wait |
| 22:56.03 | Undrhil | No. I don't want your candy in your van. |
| 22:56.06 | Undrhil | :) |
| 22:56.07 | peanut- | [TK]D-Fender: thanks for all the help before though, it'd have been a bitch to get asterisk working properly without it |
| 22:56.28 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, Stop, you'll give me cavities :p |
| 22:57.18 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, If only he stayed a minute or few longer I found all the guides he could ahave followed for his specific provider :) |
| 22:57.59 | ManxPower | impatience is the downfall of many would be asterisk users. |
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| 22:59.24 | peanut- | #irix is more of a message board than a channel.. ask a question and wait a few days, you'll get a good answer |
| 23:01.10 | Undrhil | So ... why am I here now? |
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| 23:01.23 | mvanbaak | =3 |
| 23:01.50 | Undrhil | No. I'm pretty sure that's not it, mvanbaak. |
| 23:02.05 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 23:02.11 | mvanbaak | I meant: /3 |
| 23:02.18 | Undrhil | Uh huh ... |
| 23:02.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Undrhil, You're clearly lost.... take a right, go on 20 miles or so and watch out for the sharp rocks at the bottom ;P |
| 23:02.33 | Undrhil | Doh! |
| 23:02.46 | mvanbaak | aaaaaaaaaaah, that was great |
| 23:02.59 | Undrhil | I was trying to find info about getting asterisk-gui to work in a vanilla asterisk install. I see now that I am in the wrong channel. |
| 23:02.59 | mvanbaak | rm -rf ~/dev/personal/asterisk-* |
| 23:03.01 | Undrhil | :) |
| 23:03.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Undrhil, indeed :) |
| 23:03.46 | Undrhil | But thanks for the candy, peanut-! :-D |
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| 23:06.08 | peanut- | meh... I need to make a menu that doesn't suck |
| 23:06.22 | peanut- | right now if you don't dial an extension it just times out to my main one |
| 23:06.25 | mvanbaak | peanut-: exten => s,1,Hangup() |
| 23:07.11 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, exten => s,1,NoOp(I am going crazy!) exten => s,2,Goto(1) |
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| 23:08.32 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, But you description sounds like a perfectly valid means. I see many companies use that whre it falls to a receptionist on timeout. |
| 23:12.28 | peanut- | I need to change it to something like.. if you know the ext dial it now... for mike dial 100, etc |
| 23:13.01 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, You already have that... you just need to change how you handle your timeout. |
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| 23:13.40 | mvanbaak | check your: exten => t,...... |
| 23:14.03 | peanut- | if you dial an ext while it's talking, does it go through? |
| 23:15.12 | mvanbaak | depends |
| 23:15.18 | peanut- | on |
| 23:15.20 | mvanbaak | do you use playback or background |
| 23:18.34 | peanut- | gotcha |
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| 23:19.23 | Ritzerisk | is anyone familar with The Amanda Company like a VM system or Faxserver |
| 23:19.46 | karleeto | OK people, we got another good job this week, 10 phones, (we'll contiue to use the 501s), but this one is a T1 interface |
| 23:19.59 | karleeto | i was thinking of the Sangoma A101DX |
| 23:20.09 | karleeto | sond like a good choice? |
| 23:20.16 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, I'd advise the PCI as its more transportable |
| 23:20.38 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: instead of the pci express |
| 23:20.42 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 23:20.44 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, yes |
| 23:20.47 | mvanbaak | I agree there |
| 23:21.31 | [TK]D-Fender | peanut-, This is a prime sample for our previous tiff :) |
| 23:22.08 | mvanbaak | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz time |
| 23:22.10 | mvanbaak | latero all |
| 23:22.13 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: the A101D then ? |
| 23:22.28 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, Yes, fine choice. |
| 23:22.50 | Ritzerisk | is there a limit on sip trunking of how many calls go inbound and out |
| 23:23.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Ritzerisk, yes, bandwidth, and then * caps out after a certain point as well. this is MUCH worse if transcoding is involved. |
| 23:23.49 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: ok, these people want certain phone numbers going to certain desks DIDs i guess, will that be hard to do? like hospitals i guess |
| 23:24.00 | karleeto | they have an extension, but also a DID |
| 23:24.29 | Ritzerisk | whoa becuase our mitel sucks the licensing option for sip trunking costs 120 for every sip trunk and its only letting 1 call incoming or outgoing per sip trunk |
| 23:24.51 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, If you are using PRI signalling you can support DID's easily. |
| 23:25.17 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, they will land on that EXTEN in your dialplan in the specified context and you can treat them in any which way you like. |
| 23:25.54 | karleeto | ok i see |
| 23:26.03 | Ritzerisk | hmm pricing way is there a better approach then the sip trunkning for more calls without the E1 , T1 , PRi |
| 23:26.28 | Ritzerisk | Or is there a device out there that holds like 20 fxo ports like the sipura |
| 23:26.59 | karleeto | also, my last problem is, that they have 3 fax numbers that thay want to be going out to analog fax machines, would i get a TDM card with 3 fxs ports and hook it up that way> |
| 23:27.25 | karleeto | like if it hit a fax did, send it to that channel on the tdm ? |
| 23:30.03 | [TK]D-Fender | karleeto, I would highly advise they pay for 3 analog lines to support those and keep them as far away from * as possible |
| 23:30.15 | karleeto | hmm |
| 23:30.27 | karleeto | OK, we'll talk about that |
| 23:30.43 | karleeto | thats for all your help tonight [TK]D-Fender ! |
| 23:30.56 | karleeto | how do i save and irssi buffer? |
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| 23:33.28 | Trevor_b | I am having a problem with dialplan logic for an IVR. I am attempting to Background(audio.wav), wait for the extension entered and then have "exten => XXXXX,1,system($script $EXTEN) Where the extension is 5 digits. However it seems to like to hangup on me. My other IVR's have defined extensions and work fine. Am I missing something obvious? |
| 23:33.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, pastebin it |
| 23:35.01 | Trevor_b | http://pastebin.com/d64b7eb67 |
| 23:36.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, looks fine. does * have rights to that file? is it executable? pastebin a FAILED attempt to use your IVR at verbose 10 |
| 23:37.36 | Trevor_b | [TK]D-Fender: I get Playing 'notifyme-ivr1' and as soon as I hit the first digit it hangs up on me. |
| 23:37.51 | Trevor_b | in console that is, since im watching it. |
| 23:37.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, please pastebin it as requrested |
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| 23:39.20 | Trevor_b | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/d412c2d7d |
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| 23:41.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, enable core debug. I also don't see the hangup, and why do I see an extra login/out there? |
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| 23:41.25 | Un1x_laptop | is there any reasons for asterisk to start shoving out choppy voice and all |
| 23:41.34 | Trevor_b | friggin TB POS box im hijacking the dialplan on for testing. |
| 23:41.35 | Un1x_laptop | ive tried with 3 different carriers same thing.. |
| 23:41.42 | Un1x_laptop | th receviing voice is all coppy but sending is fine |
| 23:41.51 | Un1x_laptop | ive rebooted te server rebooted asterisk same thing tho |
| 23:43.34 | Trevor_b | [TK]D-Fender: no difference, debug level 9 (ast 1.2 not 1.4) |
| 23:43.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, does it hang up instantly? or upon a digit press? |
| 23:44.05 | Trevor_b | [TK]D-Fender: digit press |
| 23:44.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, because I don't see any notive of digits. |
| 23:44.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, Oh... I see it.. |
| 23:44.25 | Trevor_b | the timout? |
| 23:44.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, Go stare at your PATTERN closely.... |
| 23:46.22 | Trevor_b | the 5 X pattern for matching the extension that should be dialed? Guess im just missing it. Like I said i usually have press 1 for Bob, 2 for Alice, and have exten => 1,1,DIAL....... |
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| 23:47.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, look at it CLOSELY... you have skipped something tragic..... |
| 23:47.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Trevor_b, that isn't a PATTERN...... |
| 23:47.40 | putnopvut | Trevor_b: if you have other pattern matches in your dialplan, look at a certain character that they all have in common... |
| 23:47.55 | putnopvut | And notice it's missing from your pastebinned example |
| 23:49.17 | putnopvut | Trevor_b: you need a _ before the X's in the pattern match |
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| 23:54.46 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: well, the people are not going to spend the money on 3 extra links, the faxes are already coming in over the PRI |
| 23:55.10 | karleeto | [TK]D-Fender: what other options do we have? |
| 23:55.22 | karleeto | err/links/lines |
| 23:56.55 | karleeto | the three fax lines are coming in over the PRI ALREDY, so we cant ask them to go backwards and pay for some analong lines when they're paying for a T1 already |
| 23:57.48 | budmang | Hey if Im on SIP(client) and the asterisk server is behind a firewall. and im external what ports do I need to forward for my sip softphone to work? |
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