| 00:00.08 | nhuisman_work | to outside sources |
| 00:00.57 | lmadsen | nhuisman_work: I have two separate routes -- my server running VMware / Windows / BT has a separate connection that doesn't *need* to go through the linksys |
| 00:00.57 | nhuisman_work | do you ahve the number ports upped from the default? |
| 00:00.57 | nhuisman_work | that does help a lot |
| 00:00.57 | lmadsen | modem --> switch --> linksys |
| 00:00.57 | lmadsen | modem --> switch --> server |
| 00:00.58 | nhuisman_work | you have two separate modems? |
| 00:01.04 | nhuisman_work | cable modems i mean |
| 00:01.07 | lmadsen | no, single modem, 2 separate IPs |
| 00:01.23 | red23111 | whats the command for showing realtime status |
| 00:01.24 | nhuisman_work | they share the same bandwidth though i would assume |
| 00:01.25 | lmadsen | just showing the two separate routes |
| 00:01.38 | lmadsen | yes, but I don't have to run the BT stuff through the linksys is what I'm saying |
| 00:01.43 | nhuisman_work | yeah |
| 00:01.43 | lmadsen | I can bypass it |
| 00:02.18 | lmadsen | just haven't gotten that far - I was busy working on reconciling my accounts in QB today, and getting my xbox360 to play movies :) |
| 00:02.19 | nhuisman_work | i opened up my router and stuck a heatsink and fan in it |
| 00:02.49 | iamthelostboy | what normally causes an echo in asterisk ? |
| 00:03.49 | iamthelostboy | i have zap to sip, and sip to sip working fine, though sip to iax isnt working so well.. |
| 00:03.56 | lmadsen | _ShrikE: hrmmmm... crap... it seems I've misplaced that configuration file :( |
| 00:04.40 | _ShrikE | lmadsen: thats ok. I will beat it down one way or the other! |
| 00:04.47 | lmadsen | _ShrikE: awesome :) |
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| 00:06.19 | nhuisman_work | man unless i'm missing something digium sure has poor documentation on how to actually upgrade their software versions |
| 00:06.35 | hmmhesays | so I have to agi this |
| 00:06.39 | hmmhesays | bah I didn't want to |
| 00:08.24 | lmadsen | nhuisman_work: from what to what, using what? |
| 00:09.11 | nhuisman_work | from abe version B to abe version C |
| 00:09.13 | nhuisman_work | using their isos |
| 00:09.32 | nhuisman_work | it even seems like the documenation on the iso is wrong |
| 00:09.35 | nhuisman_work | saying to boot of the cd |
| 00:10.08 | nhuisman_work | when clearly the cd can't boot |
| 00:10.17 | nhuisman_work | and doesn't even have the same directories the readme in the cd root has listed in it |
| 00:11.35 | nhuisman_work | too bad it's the weekend, no one is around that knows |
| 00:11.36 | lmadsen | iso of ABC C? |
| 00:11.45 | nhuisman_work | ABE C |
| 00:12.01 | nhuisman_work | asterisk business edition version C which uses asterisk 1.4 instead of 1.2 |
| 00:12.06 | lmadsen | right |
| 00:12.13 | lmadsen | I wrote part of the documentation for that |
| 00:12.20 | iamthelostboy | i take it all back. its my laptop causing the echo |
| 00:12.20 | nhuisman_work | ok so how come the iso doesn't have rpath installer on it |
| 00:12.27 | lmadsen | I don't remember writing to boot off the CD... but you can't (liek you said...) |
| 00:12.29 | lmadsen | let me check my docs |
| 00:12.55 | lmadsen | for installation it should be ./install.sh |
| 00:12.57 | nhuisman_work | i'll pastebin the readme from the iso |
| 00:13.04 | lmadsen | oh, don't look at the readme |
| 00:13.06 | lmadsen | look at the PDF |
| 00:13.12 | nhuisman_work | what? |
| 00:13.17 | nhuisman_work | how does that make sense :P |
| 00:13.22 | lmadsen | there should be a PDF on that disk, unless you got an old version |
| 00:13.33 | lmadsen | the PDF is more up to date... I have no idea what the readme says |
| 00:13.53 | jblack | I just got summoned for help. |
| 00:14.03 | lmadsen | although I didn't try upgrading from B to C... 1.2 to 1.4 has never been trivial |
| 00:14.10 | lmadsen | (depending on dialplan and configuration) |
| 00:14.22 | nhuisman_work | well i'm not even started up yet, i just had a basic 2 phone dialplan |
| 00:14.29 | jblack | To save babies from burning buildings? Nope. To perform emergency repairs on a dying pbx? Nope. To solve some deep universal question? Nah. |
| 00:14.29 | nhuisman_work | i figured i should switch now |
| 00:14.42 | jblack | To figure out how to roll a watermellon down a hill in mario sunshine. |
| 00:14.45 | nhuisman_work | so why is there documenation that is wrong on the cd, that seems silly. |
| 00:15.20 | lmadsen | lack of documentation resources I guess |
| 00:15.33 | lmadsen | them's the breaks in a growing company |
| 00:15.39 | nhuisman_work | well the pdfs directory doesn't help |
| 00:15.44 | nhuisman_work | the abe_manual is for version b |
| 00:16.01 | lmadsen | I don't know what version of the ISO you have... so no idea if the PDF I worked on is included or not |
| 00:16.02 | jameswf-home | PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH ASTERISK IS THE FOLKS WHO KNOW HOW TO USE IS HAVE A HARD TIMD DUMBING IT UP FOR THOSE WHO DONT |
| 00:16.05 | jameswf-home | damn caps |
| 00:16.09 | nhuisman_work | ;) |
| 00:16.33 | jameswf-home | tab complete will be my death |
| 00:16.34 | nhuisman_work | i don't want a dumb it down, I just wanted an upgrade howto and documentation that matched the actual directory and file structure. |
| 00:17.03 | lmadsen | jameswf-home: no it's not -- the problem is that the people who write documentation don't *only* write documentation. Finding someone who 1) has the experience with Asterisk, 2) has the skills and experience to write good technical documentation, and 3) isn't already busy actually working with Asterisk... is VERY hard to come by |
| 00:17.20 | nhuisman_work | so true |
| 00:17.24 | nhuisman_work | in any project |
| 00:17.24 | lmadsen | that is my problem |
| 00:17.50 | lmadsen | I've written lots of Asterisk documentation... but actually doing asterisk is 1) more profitable, and 2) frankly... more fun |
| 00:18.26 | nhuisman_work | i'm going to have to call them |
| 00:18.30 | nhuisman_work | this makes no sense |
| 00:18.39 | jameswf-home | all this hugging... flippin hippy;s |
| 00:18.42 | jameswf-home | :) |
| 00:19.14 | lmadsen | nothing wrong with that... |
| 00:19.26 | lmadsen | I'm a proud tree hugger |
| 00:19.37 | nhuisman_work | as long as it's tree and not pole :P |
| 00:19.58 | lmadsen | lol |
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| 00:21.10 | jameswf-home | glen beck on pain killers and pen from pen and teller now thats good tv |
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| 00:22.25 | angryuser | read changelog of 1.6 it is huge |
| 00:24.35 | nhuisman_work | lmadsen, wow i can't find any references to calling someona pole hugger, neat I made a new phrase ;) |
| 00:24.48 | lmadsen | heh |
| 00:24.55 | jameswf-home | my ex wife is a pole hugger..... |
| 00:24.59 | lmadsen | angryuser: oh ya... TONS of changes have gone in... :) |
| 00:25.01 | nhuisman_work | hehe |
| 00:25.19 | nhuisman_work | i better add an urban dictionary entry |
| 00:25.25 | nhuisman_work | pole hugger : A gay hippie. |
| 00:25.39 | jameswf-home | pole hugger, n: james' wife |
| 00:25.45 | nhuisman_work | hehe |
| 00:26.20 | jameswf-home | pole hugging. v: see monica lewinski |
| 00:26.24 | lmadsen | nhuisman_work: thanks for the tip about upping the max usable ports in the router -- I'm hovering around 535 ports, and the default as 512, so that's why it was taking a while for new pages to load ... much better now :) |
| 00:26.37 | nhuisman_work | nice |
| 00:26.46 | lmadsen | pole spinning: see stripper |
| 00:27.04 | nhuisman_work | pole spinning : see small girl. |
| 00:27.11 | nhuisman_work | ;) |
| 00:27.14 | lmadsen | nhuisman_work: yes!!! (I love spinners) |
| 00:27.19 | jameswf-home | mmmm fat girls on poles thats hot |
| 00:27.29 | nhuisman_work | you just had to go there |
| 00:27.29 | nhuisman_work | heh |
| 00:29.28 | hmmhesays | hell yeah |
| 00:30.25 | jameswf-home | speaking of hookers the nevada cathouse supports ron paul |
| 00:32.34 | [TK]D-Fender | I could only pray that man makes it into office... |
| 00:33.00 | jameswf-home | the owner of the cat house? |
| 00:33.24 | nhuisman_work | nothing like being in the office on sunday blaring music :) |
| 00:34.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, haha ... seriously... RP is my #2 for 2009 |
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| 00:35.39 | jameswf-home | I think rp is just in for a paycheck, 5% of the vote number 1 fund raiser all pr done via volinteers. so all that fundraising goes to salary and travel, thats why I am running in 2016 |
| 00:37.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, he should have flooded his presence with his budget. he's wasting the primaries..... esp in states that he has the most support in. |
| 00:38.45 | jameswf-home | I am looking at romney on the gop side and obama on the dem side we will see who makes it through the semi finals then its the least of the two evils |
| 00:39.35 | jameswf-home | I am not registered in a party so I cant vote in arizonas primary |
| 00:39.48 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, Romney is a complete flip-flopper. He has no platform and is an obvious liar. |
| 00:40.15 | jameswf-home | of the top 4 candidates who isnt |
| 00:40.43 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, Another fact I'm not happy about... |
| 00:40.44 | jameswf-home | maybe bloomberg will run |
| 00:41.03 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, I suspect RP will go 3rd party in the end... |
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| 00:41.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, I still pray for Kucinich on the Dems... |
| 00:41.37 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, Obama is ok if thats what it comes down to. |
| 00:41.50 | jameswf-home | RP kinda comes across as a nut job though so I am not sure he would have a chance |
| 00:42.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, I prefer the term "dangerously sane" personally :) |
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| 00:42.28 | jameswf-home | Our cards have a dsp :) |
| 00:42.59 | jameswf-home | oh the quotes didnt extend that far |
| 00:43.32 | Dayver | Hey, using freePBX 2.3.1.3 dual xeon (quad) server 8GB, Voip.ms as sip provider, can get only 30 incoming calls (gsm codec T1 line), then it rings busy. Does anyone know about any limitations on asterisk soft? or maybe it's a Sip provider ... |
| 00:43.49 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, now Gravel... he definitely comes across as a nut-job. |
| 00:44.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Dayver, Your provided |
| 00:44.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Dayver, Your provider |
| 00:44.15 | jameswf-home | so we can spoof the caller ID of the clinton headquarters and call carpet companies asking how to clean up a huge pool of blood |
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| 00:45.02 | Dayver | <[TK]D-Fender>: Thanks, I tried to switch the connection (Cable, T1) - 30 calls limit ... make sense |
| 00:45.15 | jameswf-home | I liked the law and order guy but he didnt have a prayer... I think they should have ended every sentence in his speaches with the sound chnchah |
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| 00:46.40 | *** part/#asterisk eluizbr (n=eluizbr@201.78.174.49) |
| 00:46.46 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, Guess I'm going to sit back and pray that one of my 4 picks gets it... |
| 00:47.31 | jameswf-home | they should legalize piracy |
| 00:48.17 | drmessano | I just spent 9 hours trying to help someone recover a raid 5 |
| 00:48.30 | drmessano | thats like trying to revive a squirrel run over with a humvee |
| 00:49.05 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, I'll twist that as "massive patent reform", decriminalize drugs, remove the DHS, revamp the TSA/CIA/FBI, etc |
| 00:49.42 | drmessano | jameswf-home, spoof the clint headquaters number and call carpet places asking if they rent out "rug munchers" |
| 00:49.51 | jameswf-home | nah just need some judges who like free music |
| 00:51.39 | jameswf-home | wow you can surf the internet on your copy machine.... wtf |
| 00:59.09 | jameswf-home | anyone want a job @ fonality no asterisk knowledge required |
| 00:59.10 | drmessano | Doesnt surprise me |
| 00:59.14 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 00:59.22 | drmessano | Was he back? |
| 01:00.05 | jameswf-home | unfortunately no... been kinda boring in here i miss him |
| 01:00.26 | drmessano | "Lack of Asterisk knowledge preferred. If you know nothing at all about open source, we also have a CEO job you may like" |
| 01:01.32 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano, ignorance helps you lie with a straight face better ;) |
| 01:01.55 | jameswf-home | <insert bush slam here> |
| 01:02.19 | drmessano | Proposed list of changes for Trixbox 2.6: **Waiting for Digium to hurry up and code more new stuff** |
| 01:02.58 | jameswf-home | if fonality would post there 10k lines we could seal up 1.6 |
| 01:03.11 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 01:03.40 | drmessano | Fonality has to be hoaring enough code to push this bitch to 1.8 |
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| 01:06.05 | mrpurple | hello ... i'm new to asterisk. so i try to configure two internal voip phones creating two sip account. But i'ld like that both are using a voip account that i have with freecall when i'm doing external calls. may i do ? |
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| 01:07.44 | drmessano | yes, you may. you have my permission |
| 01:08.01 | jameswf-home | lol |
| 01:08.38 | drmessano | DarylVoip? |
| 01:08.47 | drmessano | Where is LarryVoip and LarryVoip? |
| 01:08.52 | drmessano | Crap |
| 01:08.55 | drmessano | Totally blew that |
| 01:09.01 | drmessano | Larry and the 2 Daryls |
| 01:09.38 | drmessano | WOW |
| 01:09.52 | drmessano | Lincoln has a car with an onboard computer powered by Windows |
| 01:09.58 | drmessano | Talk about "crash" |
| 01:10.05 | mrpurple | drmessano: thank for permission ... can you give me the instruction on how configure asterix for that ? |
| 01:10.17 | drmessano | ~book |
| 01:10.18 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 01:10.23 | drmessano | No, but Leif can |
| 01:11.42 | jameswf-home | ~rtfm | mrpurple |
| 01:11.43 | jbot | ACTION tosses | mrpurple a 50lb unix manual |
| 01:12.39 | mrpurple | thank you ... so i'll start to read .. this small guide .. |
| 01:13.37 | jameswf-home | ~~~ |
| 01:13.37 | jbot | I HATE YOU, jameswf-home!!! |
| 01:13.39 | drmessano | Are you complaining about the size of the free help? |
| 01:13.54 | drmessano | bah |
| 01:13.58 | drmessano | ~~~ |
| 01:13.59 | jbot | I HATE YOU, drmessano!!! |
| 01:14.03 | drmessano | yay |
| 01:14.05 | nhuisman_work | hehe |
| 01:14.11 | jameswf-home | ~~~~ |
| 01:14.11 | jbot | ARGH!!! STOP IT jameswf-home!!! |
| 01:14.12 | mrpurple | no no .. is fine .. |
| 01:14.16 | nhuisman_work | ~~~~~ |
| 01:14.17 | jbot | grrrr |
| 01:14.20 | drmessano | ~~~~~~ |
| 01:14.21 | jbot | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots drmessano in the head three times. |
| 01:14.21 | nhuisman_work | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:14.25 | drmessano | HAHA |
| 01:14.32 | drmessano | ~~~~~~ |
| 01:14.33 | jbot | ACTION takes out a revolver and shoots drmessano in the head three times. |
| 01:14.38 | drmessano | ~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:14.38 | jbot | You know, this got old a long time ago. |
| 01:14.41 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:14.43 | nhuisman_work | ~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 01:14.49 | drmessano | ~~~~~~~ |
| 01:14.50 | jbot | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat drmessano. |
| 01:14.53 | jameswf-home | ~botabuse |
| 01:14.54 | jbot | it has been said that botabuse is fun |
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| 01:15.03 | drmessano | ~fonality |
| 01:15.07 | nhuisman_work | ~cisco |
| 01:15.08 | jbot | cisco makes the routers that move the pr0n across the internet at a very high rate of exchange. a company full of patent protected punks! |
| 01:15.12 | drmessano | ~linksys |
| 01:15.13 | jbot | linksys is, like, a tool of satan |
| 01:15.16 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:15.18 | nhuisman_work | ~digium |
| 01:15.19 | jbot | hmm... digium is a company that produces PRI/BRI/Analog/Transcoder cards. They also devote many resources (people) to furthering Asterisk and fixing your bugs. Check them out at http://www.digium.com/ |
| 01:15.19 | drmessano | ~dlink |
| 01:15.24 | drmessano | ~d-link |
| 01:15.30 | nhuisman_work | ~sun |
| 01:15.31 | jbot | somebody said sun was starting to "sneak" it's way towards the horizon... a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace |
| 01:15.31 | jameswf-home | ~spam |
| 01:15.47 | nhuisman_work | ~belkin |
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| 01:15.54 | nhuisman_work | ~redfone |
| 01:16.39 | drmessano | ~skype |
| 01:16.40 | jbot | [~skype] Skype is a free VoIP software and service using a closed client and propritary protocol. Only commercial channel drivers exist, all of which are poor implementations of convoluted hacks. In general, forget about using Skype with Asterisk... |
| 01:16.45 | jameswf-home | ~ron paul |
| 01:16.46 | jbot | ron paul is, like, my choice for president in 2008 |
| 01:16.59 | nhuisman_work | ~hillary |
| 01:17.06 | nhuisman_work | ~pole hugger |
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| 01:17.22 | jameswf-home | jbot hillary is see pole hugger |
| 01:17.22 | jbot | jameswf-home: okay |
| 01:17.46 | nhuisman_work | ~hillary |
| 01:17.46 | jbot | hmm... hillary is see pole hugger |
| 01:17.53 | nhuisman_work | laugh |
| 01:18.05 | jameswf-home | jbot pole hugger is a gay hippie |
| 01:18.05 | jbot | jameswf-home: okay |
| 01:18.13 | jameswf-home | damn bot |
| 01:18.15 | jameswf-home | lol |
| 01:18.33 | drmessano | jbot fonality is evil |
| 01:18.34 | jbot | drmessano: okay |
| 01:18.38 | drmessano | ~fonality |
| 01:18.39 | jbot | fonality is, like, evil |
| 01:18.44 | drmessano | HA |
| 01:18.47 | nhuisman_work | haha |
| 01:18.51 | nhuisman_work | it added commas |
| 01:19.09 | nhuisman_work | how the hell did it do t hat |
| 01:19.20 | drmessano | jbot drmessano will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes |
| 01:19.31 | drmessano | Hrm |
| 01:19.38 | drmessano | ~drmessano |
| 01:19.39 | jbot | i heard drmessano is neither a doctor nor a mess. |
| 01:19.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:19.49 | jameswf-home | ~jameswf |
| 01:19.50 | jbot | somebody said jameswf was he has way to much time on his hands, or a GOD |
| 01:19.52 | drmessano | jbot drmessano will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes |
| 01:19.55 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 01:20.08 | jameswf-home | ~me |
| 01:20.23 | jameswf-home | ~drop database |
| 01:20.27 | jameswf-home | ~dropdatabase |
| 01:20.34 | nhuisman_work | ~help |
| 01:20.49 | jameswf-home | jbot drop database |
| 01:20.53 | jameswf-home | jbot drop database; |
| 01:20.57 | jameswf-home | jbot dropdatabase; |
| 01:20.58 | jbot | So you think you could kill me, did you. You thought you could come in here, in my own home, and take me down without a fight. I would have given you a chance, really. But now, you have unleashed hell. May god have mercy on your soul. |
| 01:20.59 | drmessano | jbot trashbox is best used with HappyClownPhone while drunk |
| 01:20.59 | jbot | drmessano: okay |
| 01:21.03 | jameswf-home | there it is |
| 01:21.07 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:21.13 | drmessano | ~trashbox |
| 01:21.13 | jbot | trashbox is probably best used with HappyClownPhone while drunk |
| 01:21.24 | nhuisman_work | wow that's a lot of options |
| 01:21.28 | nhuisman_work | ~cpuusage |
| 01:21.41 | nhuisman_work | ~cpustats |
| 01:21.41 | jbot | Total CPU usage: 58581.8 s ... Total used: 2.7 % (parent/child ratio: 100.0 %) |
| 01:21.48 | drmessano | jbot cpuusage is at 106% |
| 01:21.48 | jbot | drmessano: okay |
| 01:21.54 | drmessano | ~cpuusage |
| 01:21.55 | jbot | well, cpuusage is at 106% |
| 01:22.21 | jameswf-home | jbot you suck |
| 01:22.22 | jbot | and very well I might add |
| 01:22.26 | jameswf-home | heh |
| 01:22.28 | drmessano | ~jblack |
| 01:22.43 | drmessano | jbot jblack is a legend in his own mind |
| 01:22.43 | jbot | okay, drmessano |
| 01:22.47 | drmessano | ~jblack |
| 01:22.48 | jbot | methinks jblack is a legend in his own mind |
| 01:22.54 | drmessano | He is gonna love that |
| 01:23.00 | jameswf-home | ~kerry |
| 01:23.01 | jbot | from memory, kerry is something you eat |
| 01:23.06 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 01:24.13 | jameswf-home | jbot eat poop |
| 01:24.14 | jbot | ACTION slurps up all the poop available |
| 01:24.18 | nhuisman_work | pri_cpe is my side right |
| 01:24.20 | jameswf-home | lmao |
| 01:24.32 | jameswf-home | maybe |
| 01:24.40 | drmessano | jbot jobs@fonality.com is currently accepting your application |
| 01:24.40 | jbot | drmessano: okay |
| 01:24.48 | drmessano | ~jobs@fonality.com |
| 01:24.48 | jbot | jobs@fonality.com is probably currently accepting your application |
| 01:24.49 | jameswf-home | I have a t1 card that does both cpe and net |
| 01:25.26 | drmessano | cool |
| 01:25.32 | jameswf-home | ~jobs@fonality.com | drmessano |
| 01:25.34 | nhuisman_work | i think mine can too |
| 01:25.36 | nhuisman_work | for loopback |
| 01:25.41 | drmessano | ~jobs@fonality.com |
| 01:25.42 | jbot | i heard jobs@fonality.com is currently accepting your application |
| 01:25.49 | nhuisman_work | but the phone company is usually _net right |
| 01:26.02 | jameswf-home | yeah |
| 01:26.56 | nhuisman_work | whelp, lets see what happens when I plug it in |
| 01:34.19 | nhuisman_work | ok alarm in zttool, so far so good |
| 01:34.38 | nhuisman_work | doh |
| 01:34.43 | nhuisman_work | asterisk is crash looping |
| 01:35.14 | jameswf-home | killall safe_asterisk |
| 01:35.26 | nhuisman_work | i just did an /etc/init.d/asterisk top |
| 01:35.28 | nhuisman_work | stop |
| 01:35.38 | *** join/#asterisk fnordus (n=dnall@24.84.160.227) |
| 01:35.38 | nhuisman_work | i put the switchtype in wrong |
| 01:35.48 | nhuisman_work | i did primary-dms100 instead of dms |
| 01:35.52 | nhuisman_work | err, dms100 |
| 01:36.01 | nhuisman_work | i find it a little odd that asterisk would crash because it can't load chan_ap |
| 01:36.03 | nhuisman_work | zap |
| 01:36.07 | nhuisman_work | it seems a little extreme |
| 01:37.18 | *** part/#asterisk mrpurple (n=Administ@gre92-7-82-243-130-192.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 01:37.42 | mamep | [Jan 21 03:29:40] WARNING[15460]: chan_sip.c:1944 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission |
| 01:38.05 | jameswf-home | should we have a zaptel 1,6 |
| 01:38.17 | nhuisman_work | it's working now |
| 01:38.23 | nhuisman_work | now to create a context for dialing |
| 01:38.56 | mamep | can someone help me with this? |
| 01:39.33 | nhuisman_work | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=5336 |
| 01:39.42 | nhuisman_work | oh sorry |
| 01:39.43 | nhuisman_work | wrong one |
| 01:40.55 | mamep | this is for cisco phones |
| 01:40.58 | mamep | i have it with sp941 |
| 01:41.02 | nhuisman_work | http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users@lists.digium.com/msg178034.html |
| 01:41.06 | nhuisman_work | that might help |
| 01:41.12 | nhuisman_work | sort of a hack though |
| 01:41.43 | nhuisman_work | i see a lot of google results for that error |
| 01:41.47 | nhuisman_work | if you can't get help here |
| 01:43.13 | [TK]D-Fender | mamep, describe their network conenction to * in detail. |
| 01:44.59 | mamep | i think i found it.. I"m behind nat and i haven't setuped nat on the phone |
| 01:45.00 | mamep | now tried |
| 01:45.04 | mamep | and seems to work fine |
| 01:48.05 | jameswf-home | jbot was rejected by e-harmony |
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| 01:48.59 | tzanger | haha |
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| 01:58.50 | ruied | Hi! I have a voice prompt in .wav format and also in .ogg format but I can't play it. I've copied it to /var/lib/asterisk/sonunds/VoiceMail.wav I've called it in extensions.conf with Playback(VoiceMail) |
| 01:59.07 | ruied | asterisk says "unable to open format wav |
| 01:59.52 | ruied | how can I set it to play wav files? all the defaulr samples I have installes are gsm... |
| 02:01.34 | nhuisman_work | i'm trying to find some good docs on setting up a t1 pri dialplan in asterisk, anyone got links? |
| 02:03.22 | nhuisman_work | is this normal : Zaptel dynamic span creation failed: File exists. |
| 02:03.30 | nhuisman_work | is that just because the zaptel.conf already exists? |
| 02:03.44 | nhuisman_work | that's when I run ztcfg -vv |
| 02:08.04 | *** part/#asterisk beek (n=klinebl@65.211.106.243) |
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| 02:08.53 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, BOOK |
| 02:08.54 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 02:08.55 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 02:09.16 | lmadsen | I don't think we mention how to configure a T1... :) |
| 02:09.26 | nhuisman_work | yeah not really |
| 02:09.31 | nhuisman_work | i guess it's just zap/g<x> |
| 02:09.34 | nhuisman_work | as outgoing |
| 02:09.34 | [TK]D-Fender | For everthing else, theres GOOGLE. |
| 02:09.42 | nhuisman_work | yeah i'm using that now |
| 02:09.44 | nhuisman_work | and the book |
| 02:10.19 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, And there is no such this as a "T1" dialplan. Dialplan is dialplan. Doesn't matter what it does, its all just extensions.conf. |
| 02:10.29 | hmmhesays | this should be interesting |
| 02:10.31 | nhuisman_work | let me rephrase that |
| 02:11.12 | nhuisman_work | what I meant was I have a pri, I wanted to find references for a dialplan that where the phone company has alloted me like 200 numbers and how to setup that up with the pri in the dialplan. |
| 02:11.28 | nhuisman_work | what a broken sentence. anyways. |
| 02:11.48 | jameswf-home | you should use pridialplan=unknown and let the phone company handle it in most cases |
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| 02:12.00 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ |
| 02:12.06 | nhuisman_work | so you just do _X |
| 02:12.08 | nhuisman_work | and leave it |
| 02:12.40 | nhuisman_work | instead of creating contexts for outgoing_local, outgoing_long_distance, and outgoing_international |
| 02:12.43 | nhuisman_work | with all the patterns |
| 02:12.50 | jameswf-home | no set it in zapata you still have to figure your own crap out but the term pridialplan associates to farend handling |
| 02:13.00 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, If you are doing PRI over your T1, then your DID will be the EXTEN that gets called in your inbound context. deal with it there however you like. |
| 02:13.11 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, way off base... |
| 02:13.40 | nhuisman_work | so you still need all the outbound contexts then for different types of calls |
| 02:13.46 | nhuisman_work | well outbound patterns |
| 02:14.06 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, do not mix context concepts for how to handle OUTBOUND groupings vs a context for INCOMING calls on your PRI |
| 02:14.30 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, You need whatever patterns you WANT. |
| 02:14.38 | jameswf-home | I ususaly dont set pridialplan but had one customer who couldnt call out, set pridialplan to unknown and poof they were bidirectional |
| 02:15.23 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, we aren't anywhere near ther.. he has no clue about EXTENSIONS.CONF. |
| 02:15.40 | nhuisman_work | yeah i'm trying to learn how to structure it yet. |
| 02:15.52 | nhuisman_work | for the outbound/incomming part through the pri. |
| 02:16.26 | nhuisman_work | i'll muck around some more and then pastebin a config to let you tear apart :P |
| 02:16.29 | ruied | how can I use Playback(xxx) to play .wav files or .ogg files? is it possible? |
| 02:16.59 | jameswf-home | my advice to a newbe is to read "the book" you can give it a once through in about 5days if your technical. then try to setup what you want with "the book" as a pocket refrence |
| 02:17.14 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied, pastebin an "ls -la" dump of the folder you have your sounds file in, and the CLI output of your failed attempt. |
| 02:17.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 02:17.16 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 02:17.18 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^ |
| 02:17.43 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, go read chapter 5 till your eyes bleed.... then sop up the mess and read it again :) |
| 02:17.52 | nhuisman_work | that's what I'm in now :) |
| 02:17.59 | nhuisman_work | reading it for the second time. |
| 02:18.25 | jameswf-home | I have been deep into asterisk for about a year I still refrence the book |
| 02:18.58 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, I reference the book all the time! |
| 02:19.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 02:19.00 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 02:19.07 | [TK]D-Fender | See?! :) |
| 02:19.08 | nhuisman_work | laugh |
| 02:19.09 | nhuisman_work | bastard :P |
| 02:19.32 | jameswf-home | that would be a recomendation not a refrence |
| 02:20.41 | jameswf-home | I do that to when someone calls me and is like I am not a linux person and am new to asterisk I am like screeeeech go see this book |
| 02:20.47 | nhuisman_work | if I have a Zaptel channel do I reference it as Zap/G1, or Zap/g1 |
| 02:20.49 | nhuisman_work | or does it not matter |
| 02:20.56 | jameswf-home | either |
| 02:21.11 | jameswf-home | g is foreward G is reverse hunt |
| 02:21.26 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, go lookup zaptel GROUPS on the wiki |
| 02:21.27 | jameswf-home | if you see glare use G |
| 02:22.25 | nhuisman_work | hmm |
| 02:22.41 | nhuisman_work | why is there even a choice for that? |
| 02:23.02 | jameswf-home | google telephony glare |
| 02:23.19 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, just keep thinking on it, it should come to you. |
| 02:23.49 | jameswf-home | sleep on the book and learn through osmosis |
| 02:24.07 | nhuisman_work | sec reading telephony glare.. |
| 02:24.54 | jameswf-home | I think nhuisman_work could be a lead tb developer |
| 02:25.05 | nhuisman_work | tb? |
| 02:25.23 | nhuisman_work | trixbox? |
| 02:26.22 | Dayver | I have Dual Wan router (T1 and Cable) connected to my FreePBX system, Does anyone know how does it work? Is FreePBX using both connections (to SIP) only one>? |
| 02:26.23 | jameswf-home | you had to be part of the conversation last night |
| 02:26.27 | nhuisman_work | ah |
| 02:26.47 | nhuisman_work | so what I don't understand is why there are different methods to pick the next zaptel channel. Isn't there only one asterisk box talking to the zaptel device, why does it matter how it chooses the next channel. |
| 02:26.47 | drmessano | ~jobs@fonality.com |
| 02:26.56 | drmessano | :( |
| 02:27.10 | drmessano | ~jobs@fonality.com |
| 02:27.25 | nhuisman_work | i guess i'm not thinking of it in a non pri sense, since the other zaptel channels could be single DID's |
| 02:27.28 | nhuisman_work | nm |
| 02:27.47 | drmessano | jbot jobs@fonality.com is accepting your application now! |
| 02:27.48 | jbot | okay, drmessano |
| 02:27.50 | drmessano | ~jobs@fonality.com |
| 02:27.51 | jbot | jobs@fonality.com is, like, accepting your application now! |
| 02:27.59 | drmessano | lol |
| 02:29.05 | jameswf-home | ~beer |
| 02:29.05 | jbot | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 02:29.46 | drmessano | ~trashbox |
| 02:29.50 | drmessano | HA |
| 02:29.58 | drmessano | CENSORSHIP |
| 02:30.04 | ruied | [TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/m35542d37 |
| 02:30.27 | drmessano | jbot jbot works for Fonality |
| 02:30.33 | drmessano | lol |
| 02:30.52 | drmessano | jbot I work for Fonality |
| 02:30.52 | jbot | You work for Fonality? |
| 02:30.54 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 02:30.57 | drmessano | ~I |
| 02:30.58 | jbot | i heard drmessano is neither a doctor nor a mess. |
| 02:31.10 | jameswf-home | i |
| 02:31.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied, and the CLI output of the failed attempt? |
| 02:31.21 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied, and "/val/lib/asterisk/sounds" sure doesn't look right to me. |
| 02:31.52 | nhuisman_work | question: when you include other contexts in extensions.conf do the included contexts need to be below the one you are including them in. |
| 02:33.13 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, no |
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| 02:34.02 | *** join/#asterisk red23111 (n=marc3234@76-10-149-62.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:34.12 | nhuisman_work | if the phone company requires I dial 9 to get out should I leave the outbound-local rule as exten => _9NXXXXXX,1,Dial(${OUTBOUNDTRUNK}/${EXTEN}) instead of exten => _9NXXXXXX,1,Dial(${OUTBOUNDTRUNK}/${EXTEN:1})? |
| 02:34.13 | red23111 | how do i tell if realtime mysql is working? |
| 02:34.24 | red23111 | is there a cli command? |
| 02:34.43 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (n=dsp@rusnas.paume.itb.ac.id) |
| 02:34.45 | ruied | [TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/m729555ab |
| 02:35.11 | ruied | frequency... |
| 02:36.39 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, what would leave the 9 dialed in your outbound dial. |
| 02:37.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied, your file must be 8khz MONO. |
| 02:37.19 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied, go convert it |
| 02:37.35 | ruied | ah, ok, thanks |
| 02:37.53 | ruied | [TK]D-Fender, does asterisk plays also .ogg? |
| 02:38.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied, Not that I heard of... |
| 02:38.45 | ruied | ok, thanks! |
| 02:38.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ruied, do "show modules like format" for a listed of what * can playback. |
| 02:38.59 | ruied | ok |
| 02:40.19 | hmmhesays | bah this agi is irritating me |
| 02:41.19 | jameswf-home | everyone should pirate this parking wars show... |
| 02:41.51 | nhuisman_work | [TK]D-Fender, i read that ${EXTEN} leaves the extension as you dialed it, whereas ${EXTEN:1} strips off the first char |
| 02:42.03 | nhuisman_work | so if I currently have to dial 9 to get out, I don't want to strip off the 9 right? |
| 02:42.20 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, I dunno... do you? |
| 02:43.25 | nhuisman_work | I would guess not. |
| 02:43.27 | nhuisman_work | ... |
| 02:45.11 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, this is the point where you go real quiet and just start pushing buttons, makes extensions, placing calls and seeing what HAPPENS. |
| 02:46.14 | nhuisman_work | i'm making them now, just asking questions as I go.. |
| 02:52.15 | *** join/#asterisk nkoth (n=HP_Owner@bas4-ottawa23-1167863813.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 02:58.09 | jameswf-home | Q: how do i compile from source in trixbox A: you dont... |
| 02:59.10 | jameswf-home | one way or the other you dont get to have your cookie and eat it GOSH! |
| 02:59.55 | jameswf-home | looks kinda conl in greenbay |
| 03:00.00 | jameswf-home | *cold |
| 03:01.04 | jameswf-home | decided by a 18 yard field goal |
| 03:02.00 | jameswf-home | newyork is going to get it or dude will loos his job *36 yard field goal |
| 03:02.23 | *** join/#asterisk RolfBeethoven (n=chatzill@69.37.139.93) |
| 03:03.00 | jameswf-home | dude just lost his job OverTime |
| 03:04.24 | jameswf-home | god loves the cheese heads |
| 03:05.21 | drmessano | Im calling the 2007-2008 season, "The Patriot Act" |
| 03:05.29 | drmessano | "It will not be defeated" |
| 03:06.52 | jameswf-home | unless greenbay seriously screws up they have this |
| 03:07.16 | jameswf-home | -24 degree wind chill |
| 03:08.06 | jameswf-home | days like this its good to live nin AZ |
| 03:08.08 | jameswf-home | *in |
| 03:08.43 | drmessano | Hmm jahyde annoys me |
| 03:09.16 | jameswf-home | jahyde is foboscos other personality |
| 03:09.18 | nhuisman_work | does anyone know how to stop phones from autocompleting numbers? these are cisco |
| 03:09.23 | *** join/#asterisk gmcneish1 (n=gary@samclay.plus.com) |
| 03:09.34 | jameswf-home | ~cisco |
| 03:09.34 | jbot | cisco makes the routers that move the pr0n across the internet at a very high rate of exchange. a company full of patent protected punks! |
| 03:09.36 | nhuisman_work | pretty annoying if have to go through two extra steps to delete the autocompleted number to put a new one in. |
| 03:10.09 | gmcneish1 | I have just installed asterisk-1.2.25 what now |
| 03:10.11 | jameswf-home | well intercept greenbay just f-d up |
| 03:10.19 | gmcneish1 | can anyone help |
| 03:10.30 | nhuisman_work | ~book |
| 03:10.31 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 03:10.39 | nhuisman_work | that's what i'm reading now. |
| 03:10.42 | gmcneish1 | im already on it |
| 03:10.47 | nhuisman_work | have fun then. |
| 03:10.57 | jameswf-home | gmcneish1: got schooled by the newb |
| 03:11.17 | gmcneish1 | but theres 266 asterisk geeks in here |
| 03:11.29 | nhuisman_work | oooo the trout |
| 03:11.34 | nhuisman_work | haven't seen that in years. |
| 03:11.34 | jameswf-home | we are watching the playoffs rtfm |
| 03:11.39 | gmcneish1 | lol |
| 03:12.46 | [TK]D-Fender | gmcneish1> I have just installed asterisk-1.2.25 what now <- go play field hockey. |
| 03:12.51 | jameswf-home | 47 yard field goal |
| 03:12.56 | gmcneish1 | im making a sip.conf file on my windows pc and then sending it to my asterisk box via ftp does the file need to have any special encodings |
| 03:13.01 | drmessano | R O F L |
| 03:13.01 | jameswf-home | oh sh*** dude got his job back |
| 03:13.18 | drmessano | I R AKERISK, NOW HALP?!?! JAH NOT JAH? |
| 03:13.26 | nhuisman_work | laugh |
| 03:13.27 | [TK]D-Fender | gmcneish1, go ask in ##linux. |
| 03:13.55 | gmcneish1 | why when its an asterisk question |
| 03:14.07 | nhuisman_work | no special encodings |
| 03:14.12 | nhuisman_work | just a text file |
| 03:14.14 | drmessano | sip.conf needs to be encoded in text form, english language, and every line prefixed with #### |
| 03:14.15 | gmcneish1 | cheers |
| 03:14.17 | jameswf-home | we dont discuss asterisk here only politics and football |
| 03:14.29 | nhuisman_work | lol drmessano |
| 03:15.05 | gmcneish1 | how do i start asterisk |
| 03:15.09 | jameswf-home | Riots in greenbay |
| 03:15.13 | jameswf-home | pixie dust |
| 03:15.24 | jameswf-home | maybe ummmmm thpe asterisk |
| 03:15.28 | nhuisman_work | you know, i don't feel so bad now. |
| 03:15.33 | [TK]D-Fender | gmcneish1, No, its a LINUX question. A text file is a text file, and not knowing the differences between Windows standard text and Linux standard is a LINUX question. |
| 03:15.38 | drmessano | ./trixbox will start akerisk |
| 03:15.52 | jameswf-home | linux \n windows \r\n |
| 03:16.18 | gmcneish1 | take that |
| 03:16.29 | [TK]D-Fender | gmcneish1, Yes, a silly windows user who also is stuck on mIRC. |
| 03:16.46 | gmcneish1 | fuck u |
| 03:16.48 | drmessano | jbot will gmcneish1 ever learn? |
| 03:16.52 | *** join/#asterisk r0d3nt (n=astrutt@foster.stonedcoder.org) |
| 03:16.54 | drmessano | Ohhhh |
| 03:16.58 | gmcneish1 | im actually trying to build a callcenter |
| 03:17.01 | drmessano | N F WARD! |
| 03:17.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ~8ball will gmcneish1 ever learn? |
| 03:17.04 | jbot | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 03:17.05 | drmessano | HHAHAHAHHAHHAAH |
| 03:17.10 | jameswf-home | ~trolll |
| 03:17.12 | jameswf-home | ~troll |
| 03:17.13 | jbot | troll is, like, a race on some muds; a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or ... |
| 03:17.14 | [TK]D-Fender | </sarcasm> |
| 03:17.17 | drmessano | WAIT |
| 03:17.27 | nhuisman_work | when I do a pri show span <x> in the status field what should I see if it is operating properly? I see Status: Provisioned, Down, Active currently. |
| 03:17.39 | nhuisman_work | Down seems like a bad indication |
| 03:17.45 | drmessano | [22:07] <gmcneish1> I have just installed asterisk-1.2.25 what now [22:14] <gmcneish1> fuck u [22:14] <gmcneish1> im actually trying to build a callcenter |
| 03:17.49 | drmessano | FTFW!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:17.56 | jameswf-home | gmcneish1: do you work for fonality |
| 03:17.59 | [TK]D-Fender | gmcneish1, if you don't know how to handle a text file or even start Asterisk, learn to put off spouting lofty goals. |
| 03:18.14 | drmessano | I R MAEK ISTP FOR VONAGE VIOP!!! |
| 03:18.17 | *** join/#asterisk ming_zym (n=ming_zym@nat/yahoo/x-7ef5ab7eba6aa0ad) |
| 03:18.24 | *** join/#asterisk rodrigo (n=rodrigo@unaffiliated/notaffiliated) |
| 03:18.37 | drmessano | I R KNEW VONTAGE |
| 03:18.43 | jameswf-home | ~rtfm | gmcneish1 |
| 03:18.43 | jbot | ACTION tosses | gmcneish1 a 50lb unix manual |
| 03:19.18 | drmessano | jbot gmcneish1 is building a callcenter.. what now? |
| 03:19.19 | jbot | okay, drmessano |
| 03:19.28 | jameswf-home | anyone coming to the superbowl come visit and bring beer |
| 03:19.34 | drmessano | ~gmcneish1 |
| 03:19.35 | jbot | i guess gmcneish1 is building a callcenter.. what now? |
| 03:20.12 | gmcneish1 | its not a lofty goal I have setup windows 2003 server with active directory I have a seperate machine running fedora core 6 mysql apache gnudialer and im just stuck on the asterik part as its new to me which is why i came here for help |
| 03:20.23 | jameswf-home | BWAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 03:20.38 | drmessano | WHAT THE F |
| 03:20.47 | jameswf-home | 2003 server ? bwahahahahaha |
| 03:20.50 | [TK]D-Fender | gmcneish1, Go read the book and actually learn how * works. |
| 03:21.05 | gmcneish1 | im reading |
| 03:21.10 | jameswf-home | guides in the ROFLcopter |
| 03:21.31 | [TK]D-Fender | gmcneish1, good, then keep it up. |
| 03:21.40 | nhuisman_work | once I see a message of "provisioned, down, active" in the status of my pri in asterisk where do I go to find out why it's marked as down? |
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| 03:22.01 | CrashSys | the record go to multiple-formats? |
| 03:22.04 | jameswf-home | this room is not helpful to those who dont help them selves and or atempt to use google |
| 03:22.28 | CrashSys | ie record(aa-menu:gsm,ul) |
| 03:23.02 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, try stopping *. reinitialize zaptel. plug in your T1, then start up * again. If its still down, check that your circuit is actually turned up by the telco. |
| 03:23.26 | nhuisman_work | ok, trying. |
| 03:23.47 | nhuisman_work | i also turned on intense debugging on the span but don't see anything extra so far |
| 03:24.29 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, Start with the simple bits. |
| 03:24.52 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, You might be surprised how many people start with problems like yours oly to find the telco didn't fully activate their circuits. |
| 03:25.10 | CrashSys | The telco has issues?!?!? |
| 03:25.19 | jameswf-home | two east coast teams coming to Arizona they will die of heat sroke |
| 03:25.22 | nhuisman_work | mine's active for sure it's running our current system, I think i just had a bad understanding of what i need to reload when I made the config changes |
| 03:25.48 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, then you might want to show us your configs for a sanity check <- |
| 03:26.10 | nhuisman_work | well restarting zaptel fixed it |
| 03:26.14 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, When things don't work you should be showing us what you're doing in deatil. |
| 03:26.24 | nhuisman_work | simple fix |
| 03:26.26 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, Well.... I guess that settles that! :) |
| 03:26.59 | nhuisman_work | now to find out why I get a busy signal when i dial out. |
| 03:27.23 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, remember : pastebin is your friend.... |
| 03:27.25 | CrashSys | Someone the telco screws up in your favor, by not limiting your outbound CID to just your DID's... lots of fun can happen then :) |
| 03:27.31 | nhuisman_work | http://pastebin.com/m1cd566f6 |
| 03:27.40 | nhuisman_work | that's my config so far, it's probably horrible. |
| 03:28.54 | nhuisman_work | i don't think the zapata.conf config should be in context=phones, there should probably be a context for incoming only. |
| 03:28.56 | CrashSys | Where you from nhuis? |
| 03:29.00 | nhuisman_work | hawaii. |
| 03:29.11 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, And never just show your configs, show the CLI output at high verbose |
| 03:29.13 | CrashSys | Hmmm... guess it could be a DMS100... |
| 03:29.27 | nhuisman_work | yeah it have it set to dms100 |
| 03:29.30 | CrashSys | sure the switch isn't NI2? |
| 03:29.32 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, need to see the FAILURE, not the just the code we don't know will run int unforseen issues |
| 03:29.44 | nhuisman_work | [TK]D-Fender, there isn't anything on the CLI when i make an outbound call |
| 03:29.48 | nhuisman_work | i have set verbose 9 |
| 03:29.50 | nhuisman_work | nothing. |
| 03:30.00 | nhuisman_work | is there further verbosity that can be turned on? |
| 03:30.09 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, if you aren't seeing antyhing then * doesn't even like whats being dialed. |
| 03:30.29 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, Dialplan error or SIP device error. if it works for other calls you know the answer. |
| 03:30.52 | nhuisman_work | interesting i dialed it differently and got an error |
| 03:31.06 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, Dialplan error it is... |
| 03:31.08 | nhuisman_work | 9<number> diesn't work |
| 03:31.18 | nhuisman_work | but 9<area_code><number> displays error |
| 03:31.22 | nhuisman_work | investigating |
| 03:31.53 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, exten=> _9NXXXXXX.,1,Dial(${OUTBOUNDTRUNK}/${EXTEN}) <- yes clear error here. |
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| 03:32.15 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, and I have never seen a PRI where you dial 9 to go out. I'm pretty sure thats your old PBX, and nothing to dow ith the line. |
| 03:32.45 | nhuisman_work | yeah that could be, I just didn't know how that worked. changing it. |
| 03:33.01 | d-tech | okay ... I need some help! I lift the handset and anything I dial gives me a reorder (busy), except octothorpe ... I need to push dial after it is pressed BUT still get reorder (busy) |
| 03:33.40 | d-tech | however I have a vm key programmed for *97 ... it works! |
| 03:33.48 | [TK]D-Fender | d-tech, keep gong... you almost told us something useful.... |
| 03:34.23 | d-tech | SIP to * |
| 03:34.59 | d-tech | phone registers but is listed as unreachable |
| 03:35.39 | d-tech | if I set qualify=no ...unreachable becomes unmonitored |
| 03:36.13 | d-tech | any ideas from the * gurus? |
| 03:37.10 | [TK]D-Fender | d-tech, You stil aren't telling us anything of use. You must think we're psychic. |
| 03:37.15 | CrashSys | fender for president |
| 03:38.10 | nhuisman_work | well holy shit |
| 03:38.14 | nhuisman_work | it worked |
| 03:38.16 | d-tech | you aren't? |
| 03:39.06 | [TK]D-Fender | d-tech, only on tuesdays, come back then. |
| 03:39.37 | nhuisman_work | laugh my cell phone showed the call as 1 (000) in the caller id |
| 03:39.40 | d-tech | 'kay ... any particular tuesday? |
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| 03:39.50 | nhuisman_work | weird |
| 03:40.02 | d-tech | fifth tuesday of the month , maybe? |
| 03:40.37 | [TK]D-Fender | d-tech, I'm not sure you're ready fo such "details". You clearly have issues with them so we won't burden you with the knowledge on WHICH one to come for :) |
| 03:41.54 | nhuisman_work | what's the difference between Congestion() and Playtones(congestion) |
| 03:41.58 | nhuisman_work | or is there none. |
| 03:42.00 | d-tech | wow ... you are pretty good at doublespeakezee ... did you need to train long for that? |
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| 03:43.21 | [TK]D-Fender | d-tech, Nope, but i get lots of free practice here from people would couldn't describe the items on a menu while staring right at it. |
| 03:43.22 | CrashSys | fender in '08 |
| 03:43.33 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, "Congestion" can actually send a call progress indication based on the tech of the call. |
| 03:44.02 | esaym | anyone have any tips for sending binary data over dtmf with asterisk? The 3 dtmf modes in asterisk seem to really garble up dtmf that is coming in at a rapid rate |
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| 03:44.18 | esaym | inband is the worst |
| 03:44.29 | [TK]D-Fender | esaym, What ver of * are you running? |
| 03:44.32 | d-tech | so ... we've danced ... care to help now? what do you need from me? |
| 03:44.47 | esaym | 1.2-26 |
| 03:44.52 | nhuisman_work | your configs and cli output |
| 03:44.57 | nhuisman_work | is what I would guess |
| 03:45.15 | [TK]D-Fender | d-tech, I asked you to describe your entire scenarion. You can do a lot better. Lets see you actually TRY and be complete about things. |
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| 03:45.35 | [TK]D-Fender | esaym, *'s DTMF decoding had MAJOR improvements with 1.4 You should consider upgrading. |
| 03:46.19 | esaym | that is what I was afraid of. Thank you [TK] I will look into it |
| 03:46.44 | ManxPower | There should be something you can use like SendImage to send binart data. |
| 03:49.54 | esaym | send image? |
| 03:50.28 | nhuisman_work | hmm |
| 03:50.42 | nhuisman_work | should I be worried about HDLC bad fcs notices |
| 03:50.57 | nhuisman_work | http://pastebin.com/m4e95da2 |
| 03:51.00 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, pastebin "cat /proc/interrupts" |
| 03:51.02 | ManxPower | nhuisman_work: Yes. |
| 03:51.14 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, ditto |
| 03:51.27 | nhuisman_work | http://pastebin.com/mba68d59 |
| 03:52.05 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, umm.. what card do you have? |
| 03:52.11 | nhuisman_work | yeah was just going to mention that |
| 03:52.22 | nhuisman_work | this is an over ethernet box |
| 03:52.24 | ManxPower | They are (usually) caused by one of two things. 1) Noise on the T-1/E-1 or 2) Interrupt Latency Issues. |
| 03:52.40 | nhuisman_work | fonebridge2 .. |
| 03:52.41 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, huh?! |
| 03:52.41 | ManxPower | 2) can be caused by many things. Some you can fix, others you cannot. |
| 03:52.56 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, Oh crap you bought that junk... EW |
| 03:53.08 | nhuisman_work | i have a digium card too, |
| 03:53.14 | nhuisman_work | i might switch to it if this causes issues |
| 03:53.29 | [TK]D-Fender | TMDoE = bleh |
| 03:53.39 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, It looks like thats going to be the case |
| 03:53.44 | ManxPower | TDMoE? EEEEKKKKK!!!!!!!! |
| 03:54.14 | nhuisman_work | what affect do those errors have on calls? |
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| 03:54.59 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, Can lead to dropped calls, echo and worse. |
| 03:55.02 | ManxPower | nhuisman_work: TDMoE is not very popular since IAX2 trunking happened. |
| 03:55.04 | nhuisman_work | yuck |
| 03:55.12 | nhuisman_work | ebay here I come. |
| 03:55.22 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, no need to be generous.. it was NEVER popular. |
| 03:55.35 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: The idea is pretty cool. |
| 03:55.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, thats where true evil takes root :) |
| 03:56.30 | nhuisman_work | I wonder, if you were to physically split a rj45 cable that comes out of the t1 box from the telco and then plugged each of the split ends into digium cards in two separate computers. Could you use heartbeat and failover to whichever one you wanted active |
| 03:56.49 | nhuisman_work | or would it just confuse the hell out of the pri and not work. |
| 03:57.10 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, No, you cannot deal with failover like that. |
| 03:57.27 | nhuisman_work | is there some best practice if you only have one pri for failing over? |
| 03:57.38 | nhuisman_work | that was the idea behind the tdmoe but since that isn't working.... |
| 03:58.26 | jblack | Paypal _sucks_. |
| 03:58.54 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack, "the works" costs an extra $50 ;) |
| 03:59.06 | drmessano | Best practice is always to get reliable lines from the telco |
| 03:59.22 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: It's been sitting at paypal.com since the 15th, in escrow. |
| 03:59.55 | Dayver | need a good 1 line (T1/pri card) for asterisk server (1 U), any sugestions ? |
| 03:59.58 | nhuisman_work | drmessano, i'm talking about failing over asterisk boxes |
| 04:00.16 | jblack | Transfer From Bank Account $50.00 USD Jan. 15, 2008 Processing |
| 04:00.18 | nhuisman_work | but not having to unplug the frigging t1 manually |
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| 04:00.30 | nhuisman_work | Dayver, my 1u severs had a riser that let me put one card in |
| 04:00.56 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: Even better, tomorrow is a holiday. So, with luck, the 22nd. |
| 04:01.07 | nhuisman_work | pci-e, i bought a TE220B |
| 04:01.18 | nhuisman_work | drmessano, any thoughts on that type of failover? |
| 04:01.32 | jblack | tomorrow, americans celebrate the death of a black guy that worked very hard for equal rights. |
| 04:01.51 | nhuisman_work | drmessano, if I want to upgrade my asterisk * install or the hd crashes or what ever, i want my second box to be able to just swap over and not have to unplug stuff. |
| 04:01.53 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work : failover to where? |
| 04:01.58 | Dayver | TE220B, Thanks .. is it plug and play ? I am not familiar with Linux |
| 04:02.21 | nhuisman_work | Dayver, that's for pri btw, you probably don't need that much. |
| 04:02.26 | nhuisman_work | oh wait |
| 04:02.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Dayver, You are using trixbox. Go use their support channels. |
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| 04:02.32 | nhuisman_work | sorry yes you did say pri |
| 04:03.04 | Dayver | Yes, I will use 1 Pri line |
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| 04:03.30 | nhuisman_work | what the hell did they just come out with Te121s? |
| 04:03.33 | franck | Hi, |
| 04:03.40 | rustifer | anyone: I'm trying to monitor an asterisk box with mrtg using an asterisk-mrtg.pl script I found, but I'm getting only zeroes when I'm sure it's higher. Is this a FAQ ? |
| 04:03.43 | nhuisman_work | i swear I didn't see those a few weeks ago |
| 04:03.51 | franck | I have a phone, with extensionState 16, and it cannot be called, how to fix? |
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| 04:04.39 | [TK]D-Fender | rustifer, this isn't a support channel for soem randon script you found who know's where... |
| 04:04.50 | nhuisman_work | [TK]D-Fender, here is the situation i have one pri, and two asterisk boxes that I wanted to use as hot spares. I initially went with the redfone device because it allowed one pri to be shared on either one of the asterisk boxes without changing cabling. Is there any solution to this if I'm using a digium card in each computer. |
| 04:05.25 | rustifer | [TK]D-Fender: Yes, I *know* that but I wanted to know if I was rehashing old discussions :P |
| 04:05.42 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, I'd suggest an AudioCodes Mediant if you want PRI routing failover. |
| 04:06.05 | [TK]D-Fender | rustifer, Yes we discuss people asking about inappropriate stuff all the time. |
| 04:06.25 | [TK]D-Fender | rustifer, welcome to thier category, wipe your shoes off on your way in. |
| 04:06.28 | nhuisman_work | god damnit that is so lame, I bought the te220b because it was the only pci e card with pri, and now they realase the 1 port card 2 weeks after i bought the 2 port |
| 04:06.58 | rustifer | [TK]D-Fender: the script connects from the mrtg box to the asterisk manager on port 5038. I can duplicate the telnet commands but when it says "Message: Channel status will follow" there is no more. How do I get more? |
| 04:07.00 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 04:07.03 | nhuisman_work | oh well |
| 04:07.17 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, And thats just Digium... Sangoma's had 1-port cards for months.... |
| 04:07.17 | jblack | telnet is great! Try irc'ing with it sometime. =) |
| 04:07.19 | J4k3pda | buy the 1 pt. return 2pt |
| 04:07.33 | J4k3pda | or consider yourself lightning-ready |
| 04:07.40 | nhuisman_work | hehe |
| 04:07.46 | nhuisman_work | i doubt i can return it |
| 04:08.06 | [TK]D-Fender | rustifer, again no a place to ask us if we know this RANDOM SCRIPT you say you found let alone knowing why you MIGHT ve getting an error with it. Go ask the author. |
| 04:08.19 | J4k3pda | who wants a sangoma card, considering they seem to be constantly dissed... |
| 04:08.43 | [TK]D-Fender | J4k3pda, not in here they aren't.... |
| 04:08.54 | rustifer | [TK]D-Fender: can you provide what commands I can type at the MANAGER port of ASTERISK to get the CHANNEL STATUS ? |
| 04:09.06 | [TK]D-Fender | rustifer, ... |
| 04:09.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 04:09.08 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 04:09.10 | rustifer | or is that still not-asterisk related |
| 04:09.32 | rustifer | [TK]D-Fender: Thank You. |
| 04:10.39 | JT | J4k3pda: err what, no they don't |
| 04:14.11 | rustifer | [TK]D-Fender: I see. My copy's out of date. Thank you again. |
| 04:14.46 | JT | Dayver: A101d |
| 04:15.52 | franck | I have an extension which status is Hold, how do I remove that? |
| 04:16.05 | franck | or rather the hint is old |
| 04:16.06 | franck | hold |
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| 04:18.18 | jblack | hold.. as in call parking? |
| 04:18.27 | rustifer | [TK]D-Fender: have you looked at the output of the Status command in the Manager interface ? |
| 04:18.45 | [TK]D-Fender | rustifer, Nope. |
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| 04:19.01 | rustifer | [TK]D-Fender: Fair enough. You've helped me plenty. Thank you. |
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| 04:19.21 | jblack | He deserves credit. |
| 04:19.32 | tzanger | credit's hard to come by in the new US economy |
| 04:19.39 | jblack | snap. |
| 04:19.50 | franck | core show hints: |
| 04:19.51 | franck | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.03 | tzanger | I'd like to know why these fucking brokers aren't getting jail terms |
| 04:20.12 | jblack | I don't know what a hint is. |
| 04:20.14 | tzanger | that and the heads of some state economic departments |
| 04:20.24 | tzanger | asterisk should have called them clues, not hints :-) |
| 04:20.30 | jblack | franck: try "show channels". |
| 04:20.37 | [TK]D-Fender | franck, in an "show channels concise"? |
| 04:20.37 | jblack | franck: Does it show any active channels? |
| 04:21.38 | franck | I have some active channels but none involving ext 205 |
| 04:21.42 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger, no this way we can still call them clueless ;) |
| 04:22.04 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: :-) |
| 04:22.12 | [TK]D-Fender | franck, if * has lost track of things it sounds like a bug that you''l only solve by a restart of * |
| 04:22.57 | franck | restart gracefully ? |
| 04:23.09 | [TK]D-Fender | franck, ought to do. |
| 04:24.33 | jblack | nope |
| 04:24.39 | jblack | (good thing too) |
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| 04:28.19 | rustifer | Hay [TK]D-Fender the script was looking for sip not SIP channels; it was case sensitive. Used to work but changed. I think somewhere along the line the asterisk response was capitalized. Just, you know, so you know. |
| 04:28.27 | rustifer | Cuz I know it was burning a hole in your heart. |
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| 04:29.23 | drmessano | I can't believe "RateMyPBX" doesn't exist |
| 04:30.36 | russellb | drmessano: how would you rate your pbx? |
| 04:30.55 | jblack | My ex called for the 3838th time today(she's trying to beat mario sunshine "on her own"), just as I was going to hit the bathroom. So I parked her. |
| 04:31.03 | drmessano | Specs and Myspace-like bathroom mirror shots |
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| 04:31.25 | jblack | I finally had a legtimate use to park someone |
| 04:31.34 | russellb | jblack: sounds dirty |
| 04:31.37 | red23111 | in 1.6beta, has the | beeen replaced by , ? |
| 04:31.38 | drmessano | Dont park with your ex.. bad news |
| 04:31.59 | russellb | red23111: yes ... should be in UPGRADE.txt, if it's not, let me know. but i'm near positive it is ... |
| 04:32.03 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, I believe so. |
| 04:32.21 | red23111 | is this permanent change? |
| 04:32.32 | russellb | yeah |
| 04:32.37 | troubled | ? |
| 04:32.39 | russellb | | was always converted to , internally |
| 04:32.51 | red23111 | ok |
| 04:32.59 | russellb | but because of it, it made for really complicated and confusing escaping if you actually wanted to use a , in the dialplan ... |
| 04:33.00 | troubled | so 1.6 will be scraping that? |
| 04:33.12 | russellb | yeah, only "," is valid in 1.6 |
| 04:33.30 | troubled | bah, just learned that from the 1.4 book :( |
| 04:34.26 | jblack | does 1.6 add a way to perform DTMF after bridging? |
| 04:34.37 | russellb | jblack: i don't understand the question ... |
| 04:35.04 | jblack | The 1.4 D() option to dial sends dtmf before a call is bridged. |
| 04:35.39 | russellb | oh, so you want DTMF after a bridge |
| 04:35.40 | russellb | ? |
| 04:35.44 | jblack | Yuppers |
| 04:35.58 | russellb | it may already be possible, even in 1.4 |
| 04:36.11 | russellb | there is an option to execute a macro on a channel when it answers |
| 04:36.14 | jblack | I imagine it's probably possible in 1.4 with some magic. |
| 04:36.17 | russellb | so have your macro run senddtmf |
| 04:36.20 | jblack | Ohhhhhhh |
| 04:36.22 | russellb | ta-da! |
| 04:36.27 | russellb | :) |
| 04:36.33 | red23111 | when I run dial() cmd, the original caller does not hear ring tone... anyone else experience this? |
| 04:37.00 | jblack | Wait, the M() option says "for the *called* channel before connecting to the calling channel. |
| 04:37.17 | russellb | jblack: that's what you want, isn't it? |
| 04:37.23 | russellb | you want to send dtmf to the _called_ channel |
| 04:37.35 | jblack | I do, but after bridging, not before. |
| 04:37.46 | russellb | why does it have to be after the bridge? |
| 04:38.15 | jblack | Because some systems (talkshoe for example) seem to be ignoring the dtmf tones. I'd like to actually hear them go across the audio channel to see if I can figure out what's going on |
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| 04:38.54 | russellb | so it want it sent both directions ... |
| 04:39.16 | jblack | yes. it puts the lotion on it's body, and it wants it sent in both directions. |
| 04:39.30 | russellb | ha |
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| 04:41.14 | jblack | Here's an example of where there's a problem... http://voipusersconference.org/asterisktalkshoecallinsetup.htm |
| 04:41.36 | jblack | Entering DTMF tones manually works just fine, but the D() command in * doesn't seem to be working. |
| 04:41.59 | nhuisman_work | the asterisk book doesn't really talk much about inbound dialplans does it. |
| 04:42.20 | jblack | nhuisman_work: Pardon? did you mistype? |
| 04:42.39 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, "inbound dialplans". Lol |
| 04:42.43 | nhuisman_work | ok fine |
| 04:42.48 | drmessano | Most asterisk users dont have friends.. so, no calls |
| 04:42.49 | nhuisman_work | inbound calls |
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| 04:42.52 | drmessano | :( |
| 04:42.58 | nhuisman_work | and how to setup the context for them |
| 04:43.07 | jblack | I'd say about 1/3 to 1/2 of the book is about dialplans for receiving calls. |
| 04:43.20 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, Sure. Off a PRI, calls land on an exten based on your DID. go find out what pattern they are using and make something to match |
| 04:43.48 | tzanger | nhuisman_work: a favourite trick of mine is to have an exten => _X.,1,NoOp(PRI-Inbound: hit ${EXTEN}) in the incoming context |
| 04:43.56 | jblack | nhuisman_work: get * running, set verbose=99 and debug=99. Then, call int. |
| 04:44.05 | red23111 | why does the dial() cmd sometimes does not send back ringing signal to original caller? |
| 04:44.11 | nhuisman_work | will the pattern change based on what the user dialed to get in? |
| 04:44.11 | red23111 | ANYONE KNOWS? |
| 04:44.13 | jblack | Call in, rather. Then, you'll see what extention and what context you've set things to go into. |
| 04:44.15 | nhuisman_work | ie if they are local or international |
| 04:45.26 | troubled | jblack: debug=99? i thought the max was 10? |
| 04:45.31 | nhuisman_work | or 9 |
| 04:45.38 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, last time, depends on how yoru TELCO sends you the DID. |
| 04:45.52 | jblack | The max predefined is either 9 or 10... You can set any level you want, though. ;) |
| 04:46.07 | troubled | :) |
| 04:46.11 | jblack | try it. set verbose 999999999. |
| 04:46.13 | red23111 | if the dial cmd doent send back ringtone, then ITS USELESS |
| 04:46.16 | nhuisman_work | yeah and i'm asking if this differs based on whether the call was international or local. I'll call in and figure out the pattern i'm just wonderiing if it's going to be the same always or doe sit change. |
| 04:46.26 | drmessano | or asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvr |
| 04:46.45 | tzanger | heh |
| 04:46.51 | tzanger | I have never ever used more than 3 and 3 |
| 04:46.56 | tzanger | -vvvdddrc |
| 04:46.56 | jblack | red23111: Is it COMPLETELY USELESS? |
| 04:47.11 | tzanger | red23111: interesting notion |
| 04:47.16 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, the DID is YOUR NUMBER! |
| 04:47.23 | drmessano | red23111: O.o |
| 04:47.24 | tzanger | red23111: take a look at the app, you can send back a ringtone |
| 04:47.39 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, how the hell is YOUR number "international"? Its just a numebr! |
| 04:48.02 | jblack | nhuisman_work: You have a zapata device, right? |
| 04:48.12 | nhuisman_work | yes I know that |
| 04:48.16 | jblack | nhuisman_work: I think those will go to the s extension on the context you defined. |
| 04:48.39 | red23111 | even the 'r' feature of dial() cmd DOES NOT WORK |
| 04:48.55 | jblack | red23111: O RLY? K THX BYE!! |
| 04:48.58 | nhuisman_work | [TK]D-Fender, I was asking if it matters where the call came from. I didn't know if the telco strips off the area code and international code and gives you the 7 digit number of it include it all. |
| 04:49.19 | nhuisman_work | of it = or if it |
| 04:49.36 | red23111 | jblack-- have you actually tried it atleast? |
| 04:49.39 | jblack | red23111: I suspect that your penchant for yelling has blown out the speaker in your phone. |
| 04:49.48 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, no it doesn't matter where it came from. thats CALLERID |
| 04:50.00 | jblack | red23111: Tried what? Dial()? All over the place. |
| 04:50.01 | nhuisman_work | ok then |
| 04:50.41 | tzanger | red23111: if 'r' does not work in dial make sure your indications.conf is right and your country code is listed |
| 04:50.47 | red23111 | In a scenario where a caller hears a greeting and is then forwarded using the dial(), the caller does not hear any ringing tones. |
| 04:51.03 | tzanger | red23111: check your system before blaming the code |
| 04:51.15 | tzanger | red23111: offhand, may I take a guess at your age? |
| 04:51.18 | nhuisman_work | there now I know how to make the pattern : -- Extension '342' in context 'inbound' from '8089389984' does not exist. Rejecting call on channel 0/1, span 1 |
| 04:51.19 | jblack | Yeah, that sounds to me like your indications.conf is missing or hosed. |
| 04:51.23 | nhuisman_work | thanks. |
| 04:51.28 | red23111 | system is fresh install. |
| 04:51.35 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, Also nice to know you feel it isn't important to tell us what kind of channels and exact hardware is involved, any CLI output with channel debug, your configs or anything else usable in trying to help you. |
| 04:51.45 | tzanger | red23111: fresh install, did that include a "make samples" or whatever the hell it is? |
| 04:51.55 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, you are receiving "342" and don't have an exten to match. |
| 04:51.55 | *** part/#asterisk wwalker (n=wwalker@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/wwalker) |
| 04:51.58 | tzanger | jbot needs a realage calculator :-) |
| 04:52.01 | red23111 | this is happening using sip. |
| 04:52.21 | jblack | One of my early monster mistakes was to "clean things up" by moving every single conf file out of the way. Which caused nightmares just like the one you're experiencing now |
| 04:52.31 | red23111 | I mean... its there. just try it and see for yourself. |
| 04:52.40 | nhuisman_work | yeah I know, just showing that I used your comments and can move forward with setting the extensions based on the pattern. |
| 04:52.55 | jblack | red23111: Ok. Fine. Put your computer in a box and ship it to me so that I can see for myself. |
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| 04:53.49 | tzanger | by and large, you do not want to use 'r' unless you ahve a very good reason to. The network will generally provide appropriate inband (audio) progress tones as necessary |
| 04:54.04 | jameswf-home | budum crash |
| 04:54.05 | tzanger | I've only ever run across one scenario when 'r' is desired; calling cell phones. |
| 04:54.08 | jblack | red23111: Failing that, why don't you pastebin a ls -al /etc/asterisk, and the results of a "reload" on the console after you have set debug and verbose to 10. |
| 04:54.08 | red23111 | the actual command is: dial(sip/########@provider,25,r |
| 04:54.36 | jblack | red23111: We understand the problem. Now shut up, and listen so that we can help you fix it. =) |
| 04:55.10 | red23111 | system is brand new freshly installed asterisk. using make samples. |
| 04:55.21 | *** join/#asterisk hoowa (n=chatzill@210.83.203.100) |
| 04:55.35 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: We have a new record here? |
| 04:55.39 | red23111 | no errors are given in cli. |
| 04:55.45 | tzanger | there won't be any |
| 04:55.46 | jameswf-home | I wonder if I can turn a crockpot in to a still |
| 04:55.54 | tzanger | jameswf-home: yes |
| 04:56.04 | tzanger | jameswf-home: lid just off and angled |
| 04:56.13 | tzanger | not a great still |
| 04:56.18 | tzanger | but it will allow you to get the water out |
| 04:56.41 | jblack | red23111: Have you pastebinned the ls -al /etc/asterisk yet ? |
| 04:56.44 | red23111 | im surprised all of you are 'denying' the existing of this problem. |
| 04:56.54 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:56.59 | tzanger | oh jeez |
| 04:57.03 | jameswf-home | We also dont believe in global warming :) |
| 04:57.09 | jblack | red23111: Nobody is saying you don't have a problem. I'm saying "I need more info to help fix it." |
| 04:57.11 | drmessano | HURRY UP, HIDE THE BUGS |
| 04:57.27 | tzanger | red23111: my guess is that you're either in your teens to early twenties, or you're in middle management. |
| 04:57.38 | tzanger | (at any age) |
| 04:57.54 | jameswf-home | for the record I have neither confirmed nor denied that there is or isnt an issue |
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| 04:58.19 | drmessano | jameswf-home: thats bullshit, whether or not it's true, which I am not saying it's not |
| 04:58.31 | red23111 | pastebin what? no errors are given in cli. and system is fresh install. |
| 04:58.45 | drmessano | your configs |
| 04:58.45 | jblack | red23111: Pastbin "ls -al /etc/asterisk" |
| 04:58.55 | tzanger | bottom line is: if your indications.conf is correct, your sip country code defined and located in indiciations.conf, and a 'dial' line for said country code, it should work. |
| 04:58.57 | drmessano | something would be nice, really |
| 04:58.59 | jameswf-home | I dont know why people come here lol you can tell those who havent been here |
| 04:59.14 | jblack | red23111: And your indications.conf, your extensions.conf, and your modules.conf. That will be a nice start |
| 04:59.33 | jameswf-home | ~free |
| 04:59.34 | jbot | free is, like, stuff might take awhile to get done |
| 04:59.51 | tzanger | fresh install would have had to have bene mangled just a little to get to the point where your sip phone was able to call in |
| 04:59.56 | red23111 | jblack --- all conf files are from make samples. |
| 05:00.16 | red23111 | the only mod is done in extensions.conf , setting up the dialplan. |
| 05:00.18 | tzanger | what are those changes... if it truly is a fresh install from make samples, then pastebinning the diff -u of the file and .sample would give us the best information |
| 05:00.23 | jblack | red23111: Great. Then feel comfortable pasting exactly the things I asked for. |
| 05:00.31 | red23111 | and entries in sip.conf |
| 05:00.40 | jblack | red23111: Until we have a chance to look things over, we can't tell what's wrong, or why. |
| 05:00.50 | jblack | red23111: if you want this fixed, you'll just do what you're asked. |
| 05:01.04 | jameswf-home | red23111: I think its your linux install |
| 05:01.27 | jblack | I'm thinking a pooched indications.conf myself. perhaps bad perms/ownership on the file |
| 05:01.54 | tzanger | no, it's clearly <consulting BOFH calendar> electromigration causing data loss. |
| 05:02.04 | red23111 | jblack- my conf are an exact copy of make samples. |
| 05:02.07 | drmessano | hm... or a botched install of 'nano' |
| 05:02.10 | jameswf-home | red23111: did you look at flux_cap.c |
| 05:02.22 | red23111 | only conf edited, are extensions.conf and sip.conf |
| 05:02.45 | drmessano | nano can be tricky.. lots of dependencies.. like, kernel |
| 05:03.01 | jblack | red23111: Are you really going to refuse me the output from a "ls -al" ? |
| 05:03.13 | jameswf-home | use of nano without -w can also do wonders |
| 05:03.29 | drmessano | red23111: seriously, if you want to be taken seriously, do as others have asked |
| 05:03.40 | jblack | Is this guy a troll? 'I have a problem, it's your fault, and I'm not going to show you anything' |
| 05:04.06 | jameswf-home | I just installed asterisk now what |
| 05:04.16 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:05.04 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, thats my new favouritist line EVAR! |
| 05:05.18 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender: which |
| 05:05.30 | [TK]D-Fender | tzanger, "I just installed asterisk now what" |
| 05:05.34 | tzanger | heh |
| 05:05.44 | nhuisman_work | <gmcneish1> fuck u [22:14] <gmcneish1> im actually trying to build |
| 05:05.48 | nhuisman_work | oops wrong paste |
| 05:05.58 | jameswf-home | I am a big fan of I dont know whats wrong... well its XYZ.... no thats not it.... wtf why did you call me if you know more than me |
| 05:06.01 | nhuisman_work | <gmcneish1> I have just installed asterisk-1.2.25 what now |
| 05:06.03 | nhuisman_work | there we go |
| 05:06.04 | [TK]D-Fender | nhuisman_work, but a nice follow up :) |
| 05:06.08 | red23111 | not sure what you want. you already have the conf files.... they are generated by make samples command. |
| 05:06.24 | red23111 | only extensions.conf and sip.conf have been edited. |
| 05:06.33 | nhuisman_work | show the edit |
| 05:06.37 | nhuisman_work | show what you've changed |
| 05:06.43 | nhuisman_work | paste your current configs into pastebin |
| 05:06.52 | tzanger | ~pb |
| 05:06.52 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 05:06.56 | tzanger | before he pastes to the channel |
| 05:07.10 | nhuisman_work | then people here can look at them via the website |
| 05:08.13 | jblack | red23111: I want the ls -al /etc/asterisk to verify the size of the files and the permissions on the files. |
| 05:08.32 | jblack | I don't care if they're the same. Hell. i -do- want them the same. That's why I want to check that first. |
| 05:08.40 | red23111 | in extensions.conf a [context] is defined, with two lines , one a playback of a greeting, and second, a dial command. |
| 05:08.52 | drmessano | Thanks for the play by play |
| 05:08.56 | jblack | We'll get to the extensions.conf presently. |
| 05:08.56 | drmessano | He wants to SEE them |
| 05:08.58 | jameswf-home | bahh |
| 05:08.59 | nhuisman_work | red23111, copy your extensions.conf and goto www.pastebin.com |
| 05:09.05 | nhuisman_work | then paste the contents into that window and hit send |
| 05:09.09 | tzanger | he's wasting our time |
| 05:09.09 | nhuisman_work | then give us the link it generated |
| 05:09.32 | jameswf-home | red23111: do you work at fonality |
| 05:09.40 | jblack | Yeah. I'm thinking he's a troll too. |
| 05:09.46 | drmessano | Ok, so like, I have it installed on a PC right.. with a hard drive.. and fans.. oh, and a keyboard |
| 05:09.52 | red23111 | ok. I'll do that. But there really is no point. |
| 05:10.00 | jameswf-home | # trixbox... its like asterisk for windows users |
| 05:10.10 | nhuisman_work | obviously there must be one if we all are telling you to do it. |
| 05:10.12 | drmessano | red23111: Are you qualified to make that determination? |
| 05:10.14 | jblack | red23111: We're just making sure, is all. |
| 05:10.29 | jblack | wost case scenario, we waste 10 kilobytes of your monthly bandwidth. |
| 05:11.09 | jameswf-home | how can i use sip over dialup |
| 05:11.58 | drmessano | I have this IAX2 trunk set up, ok.. and its on a SLIP connection through Com2 |
| 05:11.59 | drmessano | and like.. |
| 05:12.10 | nhuisman_work | drmessano, what's the irq of your com2? |
| 05:12.15 | jblack | 3 |
| 05:12.19 | drmessano | 3 |
| 05:12.36 | jblack | At least pre 2002 it was. |
| 05:12.50 | nhuisman_work | is it address 2f8 or 2e8? |
| 05:12.52 | nhuisman_work | :P |
| 05:12.57 | *** join/#asterisk fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 05:13.14 | drmessano | 2F8 |
| 05:13.21 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:13.22 | [TK]D-Fender | C3P0? |
| 05:13.33 | drmessano | Good god |
| 05:13.36 | nhuisman_work | go into your device manager and make sure you don't have a yellow exclamation mark over your com2 port |
| 05:13.38 | drmessano | Bad memories |
| 05:13.44 | drmessano | are you using a 16550? |
| 05:13.49 | nhuisman_work | if so try removing com port 4 |
| 05:13.55 | nhuisman_work | and then re-add com port 2 |
| 05:14.02 | drmessano | Oh |
| 05:14.12 | drmessano | I forget to menshun.. its over USB DANGLE |
| 05:14.16 | fozzmoo | Someone profess to be good at AMI? |
| 05:14.26 | jblack | hmm. I suppose that's one good thing to give M$ credit for. Plug and play. |
| 05:14.55 | nhuisman_work | drmessano, are you using trumpet winsock for your slip connection? |
| 05:15.11 | fozzmoo | nhuisman_work: Oh, those were the daze. |
| 05:15.17 | drmessano | Jah, are 16-bit winsock no worky in Windows Me? |
| 05:15.26 | nhuisman_work | omg maybe |
| 05:15.54 | drmessano | i r have botleg copy of Trumpet winsocked |
| 05:16.06 | drmessano | 16-bit :( |
| 05:16.43 | drmessano | I use SIP over lantastic? |
| 05:16.46 | drmessano | yes no yes? |
| 05:16.52 | nhuisman_work | are your databits set to 8? |
| 05:16.58 | nhuisman_work | and ur stop bits 1? |
| 05:17.04 | drmessano | 7e1 :( |
| 05:17.07 | red23111 | here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m47d470aa |
| 05:17.18 | nhuisman_work | rts/cts? |
| 05:17.27 | drmessano | xon/xoff |
| 05:17.30 | nhuisman_work | zmodem? |
| 05:17.35 | drmessano | kermit |
| 05:17.46 | nhuisman_work | atz? |
| 05:17.57 | jblack | could someone that doesn't have a sipphone try dialing sip:2221234567@sipphone.com ? |
| 05:18.08 | drmessano | Jeez.. ATZ |
| 05:18.18 | nhuisman_work | hehe |
| 05:18.33 | drmessano | That was the "winsock reset" of the modem days |
| 05:18.39 | nhuisman_work | sorry i went backwards in time |
| 05:18.56 | jblack | red23111: looking |
| 05:18.57 | drmessano | "Modem no worky? ATZ?" |
| 05:19.01 | nhuisman_work | yep |
| 05:19.03 | nhuisman_work | I remember that |
| 05:19.13 | nhuisman_work | wtf i've typed atz like 8 times and it still deosn't wor |
| 05:19.14 | drmessano | atdt911 |
| 05:19.15 | nhuisman_work | modem must be broken |
| 05:19.19 | jblack | That is _NOT_ an ls -al /etc/asterisk |
| 05:19.36 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, adn what kind of device is [mysip]? |
| 05:19.37 | jblack | That is your sip.conf. Your sip.conf has nothing to do with your no ringing problem. |
| 05:19.46 | jameswf-home | I like going in to stores with key systems and pging people to 9911 |
| 05:20.00 | drmessano | HAHHA! |
| 05:20.09 | red23111 | xlite |
| 05:20.12 | nhuisman_work | laugh |
| 05:20.24 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, and you're dialing what exactly? |
| 05:20.26 | drmessano | Ninety Nine Eleven? |
| 05:20.32 | red23111 | same occurs on incoming calls from pstn. |
| 05:20.42 | red23111 | dialing out to pstn. |
| 05:21.01 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, you're dialing WHAT exactly? |
| 05:21.39 | red23111 | huh? sip provider. |
| 05:21.58 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, on you bloody X-lite what friggen NUMBER are you dialing? |
| 05:22.06 | red23111 | 2 |
| 05:22.10 | red23111 | any digit |
| 05:22.10 | nhuisman_work | drmessano, try whistling 2600hz pls |
| 05:22.21 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: Personally, I think he's a troll. |
| 05:22.35 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, well "exten => s" isn't going to MATCH any number. |
| 05:22.42 | jameswf-home | th number your calling is not in service... this is a recording |
| 05:23.05 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, you don't seem to understand the dialplan at all. |
| 05:23.14 | drmessano | How is sipphone related to Gizmo? |
| 05:23.22 | red23111 | look, the dial works. I took a few lines off the dialplan to simply. |
| 05:23.47 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, Show us something useful or stop wasing our time. |
| 05:24.30 | red23111 | add this line to the extensions.conf exten => 2,1,goto(sipOutgoing,s,1) |
| 05:24.36 | red23111 | and then I dial 2 on xlite |
| 05:24.40 | drmessano | nhuisman_work, now I want a bowl of Captain Crunch... TY |
| 05:24.46 | nhuisman_work | ;) |
| 05:24.58 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, Show us the complete CLI outpu of your failed attempt at verbose 10 sip debug enabled. |
| 05:25.11 | drmessano | 2600 is what got me into Asterisk lol |
| 05:25.26 | jblack | seriously/ |
| 05:25.32 | drmessano | yes |
| 05:25.34 | jameswf-home | red is actualy using a classified dialplan no one can see |
| 05:25.36 | red23111 | there are no failed attempts, the dial works, call is connected. only there is no ringing signal while the destination phone is ringing. |
| 05:25.39 | jblack | 00:22 < jameswf-home> th number your calling is not in service... this is a recording |
| 05:25.42 | jblack | 00:22 < jameswf-home> th number your calling is not in service... this is a recording |
| 05:25.50 | jblack | sorry. |
| 05:26.16 | jameswf-home | nrrd to retrain my echo canceller |
| 05:26.22 | jameswf-home | *need |
| 05:26.28 | jblack | heh |
| 05:26.34 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano, he's a super-phreak , super-phreak! He's super-phreaking out! |
| 05:26.39 | red23111 | dial() works fine. I get connected--- Im not getting the ringing signal |
| 05:27.02 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, you are wasteing out time with non-revealing commentary. |
| 05:27.06 | jameswf-home | no thats not it...ftw |
| 05:27.13 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:27.15 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, CLIoutput with DEBUG info |
| 05:27.15 | red23111 | huh? |
| 05:28.04 | drmessano | I've always had a fascination with phones and the PSTN, I started reading about Asterisk in 2600 and was hooked |
| 05:28.12 | jameswf-home | teksavvy.com ... tek savvy my arse |
| 05:28.20 | drmessano | But I was a severe linux n00b at the time.. like, only used DRAGONLINUX once.. |
| 05:28.20 | jblack | Ohhh, canadian |
| 05:28.29 | troubled | apparently he was just a questioning in #mysql |
| 05:28.34 | drmessano | So it took me a little while |
| 05:28.35 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack, Ontarian ISP. |
| 05:28.46 | fozzmoo | If I have an Asterisk box with a SIP channel and an IAX channel and extensions.conf has some logic in it to use the "OUT" trunk which selects one of the two channels for outbound dialing, how would I specify the default trunk in an AMI dial command? |
| 05:29.00 | jblack | As if to imply that ontario isn't a part of canada. |
| 05:29.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack, Serves Toronto through Montreal more or less (Bell's major DSLAM range) |
| 05:29.34 | jameswf-home | on mirc bleh |
| 05:30.00 | red23111 | here, output from cli: http://pastebin.com/m72ca2471 |
| 05:30.02 | [TK]D-Fender | fozzmoo, you don't specify "default" in your AMI call you are going EXPLICIT. if its a dialplan decision, its your dialplan, make it do EXACTLY what you want. |
| 05:30.08 | drmessano | 6.03? |
| 05:30.10 | jameswf-home | omfg |
| 05:31.26 | jblack | googling for marc3234 teksavvy.com is illuminating. |
| 05:31.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Ok, I've had enough for one night (who am I kidding... today will last a LIFETIME) |
| 05:31.47 | jblack | He's been around here before, asking fuzzy questions and refusing to elaborate, provide more info when asked. |
| 05:31.50 | fozzmoo | [TK]D-Fender: Okay, next question... The guru I was talking to on Friday told me the Channel: line in my AMI command should look something like this: Channel: Local/18012545677@longdistance/n |
| 05:32.13 | [TK]D-Fender | fozzmoo, it can if you want your 1st leg to use the dialplan |
| 05:32.16 | WilliamK | what's amusing is watching vista uninstall Norton Antivirus on a prebuilt pc, rebooting, and updating windows |
| 05:32.21 | WilliamK | it's down right sad |
| 05:32.35 | [TK]D-Fender | WilliamK, Sad starts with "Vista" |
| 05:32.36 | drmessano | It booted after that? |
| 05:32.37 | fozzmoo | [TK]D-Fender: Can you briefly dissect what that Channel: line does? |
| 05:32.50 | jameswf-home | << has been without windows for 2 years... and happy |
| 05:32.51 | WilliamK | surprisingly |
| 05:32.51 | drmessano | Ive seen norton tank a PC |
| 05:32.54 | fozzmoo | I kind of expected it to say something like Channel: IAX2/provider |
| 05:33.09 | drmessano | jblack: how are gizmo and sipphone related? |
| 05:33.12 | nhuisman_work | I still use windows on my mac in parallels for certain aps, that's about it. |
| 05:33.19 | fozzmoo | (Well, except for my video editing) |
| 05:33.19 | [TK]D-Fender | fozzmoo, it'll start * off in your dialplan in the specified place and upon "answering" will continue to go where your AMI call sends it to. |
| 05:33.20 | red23111 | jblack-- what are you saying? |
| 05:33.22 | nhuisman_work | my desktop at work at at home are both linux though |
| 05:33.45 | jblack | He has also plagued #ubuntu with similiar behaviour. |
| 05:33.55 | jblack | red23111: Bluntly spoken? |
| 05:34.00 | drmessano | red23111: I think you just got called a troll.. I would have jblack call you and work it ou... wait.. |
| 05:34.28 | jameswf-home | our office is 80% linux 18% mac and 2% windows (damn accountants) |
| 05:34.44 | nhuisman_work | it's sure annoying that there are 3 different levels of setting the damn number |
| 05:34.45 | jblack | I'm saying you're the worst kind of fucknutted moron. You ask questions, blow off answers, don't give followup information when asked. |
| 05:34.52 | nhuisman_work | at least for cisco phones. |
| 05:35.04 | jblack | Even more bluntly: Your very birth has retarded the advance of civilization. |
| 05:35.05 | nhuisman_work | in the SIPXXXXXXXXXXXXx.cnf.sml, in the sip.conf, and in the dialplan. |
| 05:35.10 | fozzmoo | [TK]D-Fender: That was greek. :) I'll read up on the Originate action. I'm an Asterisk novice, but I need this prototype to do a simple dialout IVR-type thing by tomorrow morning. |
| 05:35.19 | drmessano | red23111: you're like a troll with a tollbridge |
| 05:36.12 | jameswf-home | he is kinda like unixdog |
| 05:36.19 | [TK]D-Fender | fozzmoo, if what I just said is "greek" then you must be completely clueless about * and had better get yourself a consultant fast. |
| 05:36.44 | drmessano | i r callcenter no? |
| 05:36.47 | jameswf-home | <consultant for hire :) or not |
| 05:36.48 | fozzmoo | [TK]D-Fender: I know! |
| 05:36.55 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, No, unixdog isn't that bad... he pokes fun at a bunch of stuff, but he's no troll. |
| 05:37.15 | fozzmoo | fozzmoo: It's just been months since I did anythign with Asterisk. I had jsmith helping me on Friday and he made it seem so easy at the time. :) |
| 05:37.16 | jameswf-home | you ever been on the phone with him |
| 05:37.24 | red23111 | anyone looked at the pastebin from cli? |
| 05:37.45 | nhuisman_work | jameswf-home, i can imagine a 50 year old man with no clue |
| 05:37.50 | nhuisman_work | how far off base am I? |
| 05:37.53 | [TK]D-Fender | red23111, yeah, said nothing and didn't have sip debug enabled as you were asked. |
| 05:38.06 | drmessano | jblack: how are gizmo and sipphone related? |
| 05:38.08 | red23111 | how do i enable sip debug? |
| 05:38.09 | [TK]D-Fender | but thats it... I'm checking out. |
| 05:38.10 | [TK]D-Fender | later all. |
| 05:38.14 | fozzmoo | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks for trying. |
| 05:38.15 | nhuisman_work | later tk |
| 05:38.34 | jameswf-home | dude 20 minutes of how big of a piece of sh** we are for using linux and bsd is the only way |
| 05:38.54 | nhuisman_work | TK is the oracle with an attitude |
| 05:39.17 | drmessano | I think jblack has me blocked |
| 05:39.23 | drmessano | :( |
| 05:39.27 | WilliamK | hot dog, I finally got it to look like the windows classic theme |
| 05:39.30 | nhuisman_work | i don't want to know what tk is like in real life |
| 05:39.31 | fozzmoo | I think blood is going to start shooting out of my eyes. |
| 05:39.34 | WilliamK | after figuring out where all the menus are this time |
| 05:39.56 | jblack | drmessano: Dont' know. Are you dialing that number for me? |
| 05:40.23 | nhuisman_work | sweet sauce |
| 05:40.26 | nhuisman_work | got incoming calls to work |
| 05:40.28 | jblack | drmessano: Nah. I got stressed and went for a smoke. |
| 05:40.31 | nhuisman_work | i think that's enough for tonight |
| 05:40.35 | drmessano | I dont have sipphone.. I have Gizmo.. I see they're somehow related |
| 05:40.40 | red23111 | jblack-- sounds like you attack anyone with a serious whenever you have no clue. |
| 05:40.43 | drmessano | But I am looking at sipphone now |
| 05:40.52 | drmessano | red23111: You are a troll, dude |
| 05:41.20 | jblack | drmessano: Oh, I was just hoping for a call to sip:12221234567 from a non-sipphone account... to see if they route unauthed calls. |
| 05:41.22 | WilliamK | any bets on how long it takes to defrag IF it has a defrag? |
| 05:41.23 | drmessano | red23111: You refuse those that help you, and question too much |
| 05:41.25 | WilliamK | :) |
| 05:41.34 | drmessano | oh |
| 05:41.37 | nhuisman_work | WilliamK, what are you defraging? |
| 05:41.41 | WilliamK | vista |
| 05:41.46 | nhuisman_work | how big of an hd? |
| 05:41.46 | WilliamK | on a compaq |
| 05:41.47 | red23111 | the problem is simple, and I bet alot of people are having the same issue. |
| 05:41.48 | drmessano | gimme a few |
| 05:41.57 | drmessano | red23111: there is no "issue" |
| 05:42.01 | nhuisman_work | there your problem: using a file system that requires defragging |
| 05:42.02 | nhuisman_work | bleh |
| 05:42.03 | WilliamK | 160gb |
| 05:42.04 | drmessano | red23111: You're misconfigged |
| 05:42.08 | red23111 | the dial() cmd is not generating the ringing signal. |
| 05:42.20 | jblack | red23111: I had the _exact_ same problem, that was caused by moving indications.conf out of /etc/asterisk. That's why I asked you no less than 5 times to pastebin "ls /etc/asterisk" |
| 05:42.21 | red23111 | my conf are from make samples. |
| 05:42.28 | jameswf-home | dial does not provide ringback |
| 05:42.49 | jblack | Once I verified it was there, and it was readable by *, I was going to have you paste the entire indications.conf. Why? Because it's indications.conf that defines the ringing. |
| 05:42.50 | jameswf-home | dial is an fxo function ringback is an fxs function |
| 05:43.01 | drmessano | red23111: fail |
| 05:43.01 | red23111 | jblack- are you saying that i should remove indications.conf from the etc/asterisk dir? |
| 05:43.09 | tengulre | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.19 | nhuisman_work | do you have one in there |
| 05:43.20 | WilliamK | I love how they changed the details... "Defragging... this may take from a few mins to a few hours..." |
| 05:43.20 | drmessano | try #wireshark |
| 05:43.24 | nhuisman_work | just rename it to .bak |
| 05:43.25 | nhuisman_work | and see |
| 05:43.31 | jameswf-home | the far end should provide ringback |
| 05:43.32 | drmessano | This is #asterisk |
| 05:43.38 | drmessano | I can see your confusion |
| 05:43.41 | red23111 | ok let see. |
| 05:44.13 | nhuisman_work | ok guys thanks for the help : Tonight I got my outgoing and incoming working on the pri. I'm out until tomorrow (thanks again). |
| 05:45.21 | jameswf-home | red23111: have you looked at #trixbox or #elastix |
| 05:45.23 | red23111 | WARNING[5459]: channel.c:2589 ast_indicate_data: Unable to handle indication 3 for |
| 05:45.37 | red23111 | taking off indications.conf results in the above warning |
| 05:45.58 | troubled | jblack: http://pastebin.ca/raw/867165 |
| 05:46.20 | jblack | troubled: looking |
| 05:46.28 | troubled | jblack: other than being a lazy non rtfm sob, seems fine |
| 05:46.47 | jblack | Ohh, nice. |
| 05:46.56 | troubled | there was also 3 msg's in ##linux, nothing special though |
| 05:48.04 | jblack | Yeah, that's about what i got from google. HIm asking random questions, then ignoring followups. The google one regarding SER is particularly interesting. |
| 05:48.37 | jameswf-home | freaking penguin eaten by a seagull |
| 05:49.37 | jblack | the waiting for other participants white noise isn't the most pleasant I've heard. |
| 05:49.48 | troubled | jblack: also, i have exactly 95 distinct nicks belonging to 76-10-*.dsl.teksavvy.com. if a private vanity isp, likely all him, but i doubt it |
| 05:50.24 | *** join/#asterisk tsabi (n=tsabi@gw.creditexpress.hu) |
| 05:50.39 | jblack | Granted. I don't know how many different marcs3[0-9]+ that like to join this channel and #ubuntu. |
| 05:51.13 | jblack | you're welcome to take a shot at helping him if you like. Here, he's marked as a troll. =) |
| 05:51.32 | troubled | well, nothing other than the 2 nicks that i can see for marc=3234. didnt really bother looking for ident variations though |
| 05:51.49 | Maxous | jblack: What does a Troll mean? |
| 05:51.53 | red23111 | you went and found what exactly??? all questions that I had before. |
| 05:51.58 | troubled | nah ill pass. sounds like he just needs to bite the bullet and rtfm :) |
| 05:52.04 | fozzmoo | Maxous: Haven't you seen Lord Of The Rings? :) |
| 05:52.24 | troubled | red23111: well sorta. hardly a thorough search though ;) |
| 05:52.25 | jblack | maxous: A troll is someone that intentially riles up a channel, typically by asking simple questions and making things increasingly difficult. |
| 05:52.33 | Maxous | fozzmoo: Yes, but i wasn't sure if it had some other meaning. |
| 05:52.43 | red23111 | be my guess. spend the night. |
| 05:52.48 | Maxous | jblack: Hah, thanks. |
| 05:52.50 | jblack | Maxous: Why they do what they do, I don't know. But they seem to get a real kick out of it. |
| 05:53.01 | jblack | I guess it's like prank calling |
| 05:53.05 | troubled | jblack: i did find it intersting how he went from simple questions and then pulled a 2 line complex sql JOIN out of nowhere though :) |
| 05:53.48 | Maxous | jblack: I think they are people who don't want to take the time to read instructions or do a simple google search. |
| 05:53.52 | troubled | be like a lil kid askin about simple addition/subtraction, then jumping right to advanced trig and calculus ;) |
| 05:54.04 | fozzmoo | From jargon: An electronic mail message, Usenet posting or other (electronic) communication which is intentionally incorrect, but not overtly controversial (compare flame bait), or the act of sending such a message. Trolling aims to elicit an emotional reaction from those with a hair-trigger on the reply key. A really subtle troll makes some people lose their minds. |
| 05:54.10 | jblack | maxous: Nah. That's just someone that's either naive or lazy. A troll does that stuff intentionally. |
| 05:54.32 | red23111 | troubled-- some of of the questions are simple, some are harder. are you done? |
| 05:54.35 | Maxous | jblack: Wow, what a waste. |
| 05:54.50 | jblack | Ironically, there's a certain decorum to it. Once someone calls the troll flag, they're supposed to acknowledge it, say something like "thanks for playing", and they troll some other channel until they get caught. |
| 05:55.11 | troubled | red23111: im not talking to you remember ;) |
| 05:55.31 | Maxous | jblack: Hah. |
| 05:55.55 | jblack | That's part of the game, I suppose. For a troll to see how stupid/weird they can get before someone catches on and shouts "Troll!" |
| 05:56.25 | drmessano | red23111: try rm -rf / |
| 05:56.32 | Maxous | jblack: Guess they have nothing better to do. |
| 05:56.32 | red23111 | WARNING[5459]: channel.c:2589 ast_indicate_data: Unable to handle indication 3 for |
| 05:56.37 | troubled | drmessano: hey now... |
| 05:56.38 | jameswf-home | troll |
| 05:56.40 | drmessano | red23111: try rm -rf / |
| 05:56.48 | red23111 | is the warning i get when I remove indications.conf from etc/asterisk |
| 05:56.49 | jblack | Of course, it does make it much, much harder to help actual newbies that actually need help, but are clueless. |
| 05:57.25 | WilliamK | I thought it was rm -rf / * |
| 05:57.34 | jameswf-home | red23111: TRY :(){ :|:& };: |
| 05:57.38 | red23111 | jblack-- if you are clueless , then politely say 'i dont know' |
| 05:57.45 | jblack | heh |
| 05:57.51 | drmessano | Well, I have been on IRC for 11 years now off and on.. I can spot a troll pretty easily.. |
| 05:57.55 | troubled | you guys are terrible |
| 05:58.06 | jblack | me? |
| 05:58.08 | drmessano | They are all about the same |
| 05:58.14 | WilliamK | who me? |
| 05:58.15 | WilliamK | :) |
| 05:58.16 | troubled | no, mr. fork bomb there |
| 05:58.32 | jblack | Yeah. Nicely hidden |
| 05:58.51 | jameswf-home | SO I WAS LIKE JUST FORK IT |
| 05:58.53 | Maxous | I have been on IRC for 2 weeks, and have yet to get to the CLI of an Asterisk. |
| 05:58.57 | jameswf-home | damn caps |
| 05:59.02 | troubled | its ok, you guys just need some manners :) |
| 05:59.08 | Maxous | .) |
| 05:59.12 | jblack | maxous: Try "asterisk -r" |
| 05:59.41 | Maxous | Oh, no no. I don't need help. I just have yet to need to get into the CLI. |
| 05:59.44 | drmessano | I have gotten a couple PMs telling me to knock it off when some waste comes in and starts asking questions which add up to "CAN U DO IT FOR ME", but I just sit back and wait for the other person to get pissed at them too |
| 06:00.10 | drmessano | Its not like you cant tell from question 1 |
| 06:00.23 | jameswf-home | now what? |
| 06:00.26 | jameswf-home | :) |
| 06:00.30 | WilliamK | oh you mean like 1 + 1 = 3 |
| 06:00.31 | Maxous | jblack: I have a 3Com Asterisk at work on my desk. I just need to get some time to play with it. |
| 06:00.32 | WilliamK | :) |
| 06:00.44 | jblack | well, call me a bleeding heart, but I think * is complicated enough to get going the first time, that there is room for a little handholding. |
| 06:01.21 | drmessano | Ok, I am new here, and I have had this pasted into notepad for hours. I set up a SAP trunk with my ISP and they have a vonage that I conect to with us robotics modem, i install drive rna d i add zap but why asterisk 1.2 tell me trixbox broken DNS? |
| 06:01.34 | drmessano | Bam, troll alert |
| 06:01.45 | red23111 | jblack-- removing indications.conf results in warning in cli. |
| 06:02.08 | jblack | aye |
| 06:02.15 | troubled | jblack: hold me |
| 06:02.22 | jblack | I wish there were enough tennis courts for all of the trolls out there. |
| 06:02.41 | drmessano | HAHA |
| 06:02.46 | drmessano | GO BACK TO YOUR TENNIS COURT |
| 06:02.47 | Maxous | jblack: oh. I do appreciate any help I can get! Thank you. I am here to get a feel for the community and get to know people for when I need help... |
| 06:03.22 | jblack | maxous: This is generally a nice place. That guy just set a bad tone for the eve. |
| 06:03.36 | jameswf-home | I am infamous weeeeee |
| 06:03.56 | Maxous | jblack:I understand. |
| 06:04.31 | red23111 | anyone else has ringing signal problem using dial() command? |
| 06:04.34 | Maxous | jblack: do you work with asterisks every day? |
| 06:04.45 | jameswf-home | red cant read |
| 06:04.56 | jblack | It seems that way, for all 30 days that I've had it or so. =) |
| 06:05.30 | drmessano | red23111: I have |
| 06:05.38 | Maxous | jblack: ha ha. Are you a end user? |
| 06:05.52 | jblack | Maxous: At this point, though I'm trying to help others too. |
| 06:05.52 | jameswf-home | end luser |
| 06:06.11 | jblack | I imagine I'll be coding on the project before too long. |
| 06:06.21 | drmessano | red23111: I did a "rm -rf / echo IAXZIPSIP >> indications.conf " |
| 06:06.42 | drmessano | and it fixed it |
| 06:06.48 | troubled | drmessano: ok, thats really uncalled for |
| 06:07.15 | drmessano | troubled: I heard ya the first time |
| 06:07.17 | Maxous | jblack: wow, thats cool. |
| 06:07.25 | red23111 | waste of time with kids... |
| 06:07.29 | troubled | there is a line in the sand of irc etiquette, and you crossed it i think ;/ |
| 06:07.53 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 06:08.04 | troubled | red23111: are you aware of the 1.4 oreilly pdf "book"? |
| 06:08.08 | jameswf-home | ~book |
| 06:08.09 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 06:08.24 | drmessano | red23111 is a troll, troubled.. maybe you should Google it |
| 06:09.07 | troubled | perhaps. impossible to proove if the troll is really good though |
| 06:09.41 | troubled | but if you are wrong, i would hate to punish an innocent nooblet :) |
| 06:09.49 | drmessano | troubled: maybe you should read down the irc etiquette guide about trolls ;) |
| 06:10.07 | troubled | usually it involves /ignore |
| 06:10.33 | drmessano | I prefer to /feed, but thanks for the advice ;) |
| 06:11.05 | emist | /feed, /farm, /feed, /repeat |
| 06:11.13 | jameswf-home | ~feed |
| 06:11.13 | jbot | ACTION cooks <target> a succulent, tender, slightly moist steak |
| 06:11.26 | troubled | ~feed me |
| 06:11.27 | jbot | ACTION offers troubled some horseraddish |
| 06:17.35 | drmessano | Oh sorry, that wasnt proper |
| 06:18.43 | drmessano | I love the ads for Comast digital voice |
| 06:18.50 | drmessano | Like, who would buy that |
| 06:19.09 | Maxous | Why not? |
| 06:19.30 | Maxous | Does something better exist? |
| 06:19.37 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:19.44 | drmessano | Yeah.. its called "A Real ITSP" |
| 06:20.08 | Maxous | Does ITSP mean, Internet Telcom Service Provider? |
| 06:20.25 | drmessano | I Talk Sip Properly |
| 06:20.26 | SwK | hah |
| 06:20.39 | SwK | who talks sip properly |
| 06:20.46 | drmessano | I Talk Sip Properly = ITSP |
| 06:20.49 | Maxous | :-/ |
| 06:20.56 | troubled | ~itsp |
| 06:20.56 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 06:21.06 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:21.15 | Maxous | So, what is a real ITSP? |
| 06:21.21 | drmessano | Comcrap is the devil |
| 06:21.33 | SwK | but I dont do consumer stuff |
| 06:21.34 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:21.42 | jblack | Ignore Telecoms. Self Preservation. |
| 06:21.50 | drmessano | HA |
| 06:21.51 | *** join/#asterisk Mavvie (n=edwin@ppp121-44-11-176.lns10.syd7.internode.on.net) |
| 06:22.10 | drmessano | The only good thing about Comcast is that they likely QoS their own shit |
| 06:22.17 | Maxous | ~itsplist~us |
| 06:22.30 | jblack | I think you want -us, not ~us |
| 06:22.44 | Maxous | oh, thank you. |
| 06:22.53 | *** part/#asterisk red23111 (n=marc3234@76-10-149-62.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 06:22.58 | Maxous | ~itsplist-us |
| 06:22.58 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, or http://www.jnctn.com, or http://www.bandwidth.com |
| 06:23.22 | Maxous | These are for consumers too? |
| 06:23.33 | jblack | Yup. |
| 06:23.41 | Maxous | Interesting. |
| 06:23.52 | jblack | I thought you were already running *? |
| 06:24.14 | Maxous | Nope, it is sitting on my desk. |
| 06:24.21 | Maxous | I am still gathering information. |
| 06:24.29 | Maxous | I come from old phone systems. |
| 06:24.33 | troubled | ahh, a hunter gatherer |
| 06:24.39 | Maxous | Am just getting my feet wet. |
| 06:24.48 | jblack | So.. YOu didn't just download the software and turn your closet server into a pbx? |
| 06:25.03 | troubled | Maxous: old phone systems? still dialing with morse code? :) |
| 06:25.16 | drmessano | 9, |
| 06:25.27 | drmessano | -.-. --.- -.-. --.- |
| 06:25.31 | emist | morse code is where its at |
| 06:25.36 | drmessano | --- -.- |
| 06:25.48 | Maxous | troubled: 1A2 |
| 06:26.05 | troubled | 1a2? |
| 06:26.06 | drmessano | I prefer A3E |
| 06:26.39 | Maxous | jblack:Nope. 3Com has released a version of a digium asterisk |
| 06:26.41 | SwK | Maxous, old phone systems? like crossbar old? |
| 06:27.08 | Maxous | SwK: 1A2. It is an old phone system. |
| 06:27.22 | drmessano | My Asterisk box has relays in it |
| 06:27.23 | drmessano | BEAT that |
| 06:27.35 | jblack | Ok.... |
| 06:27.40 | jblack | Mine has a dirty sock in it. |
| 06:27.46 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:28.05 | troubled | drmessano: so does mine. well, soon at least :) |
| 06:28.07 | Maxous | jblack: My company is looking for another system as well. |
| 06:28.13 | SwK | drmessano, i have a real relay based system that isnt even new enuff to do DTMF.... hows that |
| 06:28.17 | drmessano | Im so hardcore into telephony, I have a red/green pair of socks, and a black/yellow pair |
| 06:28.31 | troubled | heh |
| 06:28.34 | Maxous | jblack: We see Asterisk as a good direction to go. |
| 06:29.13 | jblack | maxous: It really promises to be deeply disruptive. |
| 06:29.51 | Maxous | jblack:Heh, i think it has kept that promise. |
| 06:30.21 | WilliamK | just curious... when did 3com do that? |
| 06:30.46 | Maxous | WilliamK: 3Com and Asterisk have been working on it for a while. |
| 06:31.03 | jblack | If you guys play along, please stick to free software? |
| 06:31.07 | Maxous | WilliamK: I think they just starting shipping 1 to 2 months ago. |
| 06:31.08 | WilliamK | ok, so it was more less a partnership with digium? |
| 06:31.13 | *** part/#asterisk fozzmoo (n=fozz@166-70-238-250.ip.xmission.com) |
| 06:31.42 | jblack | Keep up that good reputation that you've earned. |
| 06:31.46 | Maxous | WilliamK: Yes. But basically a digium box with a 3Com Logo on it. |
| 06:32.18 | WilliamK | k just wondering if that's what spurred this patent crapola |
| 06:32.23 | Maxous | drmessano: Thank you for keeping your thoughts to yourself. |
| 06:32.52 | WilliamK | ever mix orange juice and reeses? |
| 06:33.00 | Maxous | WilliamK: What patent crapola? |
| 06:33.00 | WilliamK | it has an odd interesting taste |
| 06:33.27 | WilliamK | the deal with the google adwords nonsense that got repealed |
| 06:33.52 | drmessano | reeses cereal? |
| 06:33.52 | WilliamK | was just wondering if that was somehow linked |
| 06:34.03 | WilliamK | reeses peanut butter cups |
| 06:34.05 | jblack | cmon drmessano... Cut 3com a break. They've done a lot of good for free software over the last 20. Tivo they're not. |
| 06:34.51 | WilliamK | 3com was good back in the day... just got lamer as they went thou |
| 06:35.00 | Maxous | jblack: hah, you are correct. They know open source is the way to go. lol |
| 06:35.07 | *** join/#asterisk rodrigo (n=rodrigo@unaffiliated/notaffiliated) |
| 06:35.13 | jblack | Not if you call it "open source", you don't. |
| 06:35.23 | drmessano | Im waiting for the 3dotcom bubble to finally burst |
| 06:35.28 | jblack | That's a big red warning sign for "kinda got it" |
| 06:35.47 | Maxous | WilliamK: They had bad management. They ditched the enterprise switch market in 2000, so cisco took that cake. |
| 06:36.08 | WilliamK | probably a good idea on that part |
| 06:36.20 | WilliamK | woulda cost 3com too much $ and not mature enough |
| 06:36.21 | Maxous | WilliamK: Not at all. |
| 06:36.23 | drmessano | Yeah, since the NICs they sold to connect to them were shit |
| 06:36.42 | Maxous | WilliamK: The NIC market went to shit. |
| 06:36.58 | drmessano | Worst. Network. Hardware. Ever. 3com. |
| 06:37.11 | Maxous | WilliamK: 3Com Switches are just as good as Cisco. I have seen independent testing. |
| 06:37.21 | WilliamK | yeah the market did as far as revenue but 3com's corebuilder platform kinda sucked from my viewpoint |
| 06:37.37 | drmessano | $99 NIC cards that fry when lightning hits 3000 miles away in the woods |
| 06:37.43 | Maxous | drmessano: What level networking hardware have you worked with in regards to 3Com? |
| 06:38.00 | drmessano | Lots and lots of cards.. and a few crap switches in the day |
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| 06:38.13 | WilliamK | I had hundreds of thousands of dollars of 3com gear |
| 06:38.14 | drmessano | I blew ALL that crap out in 2001 |
| 06:38.22 | WilliamK | Total Control HiperARC's |
| 06:38.30 | Maxous | WilliamK: Yea, the corebuilder is gone. lol |
| 06:38.42 | WilliamK | total controls still are solid though |
| 06:38.46 | drmessano | 3c905c.. Ive had $5 NICs worth better than that shit |
| 06:38.55 | Maxous | drmessano: O cam |
| 06:39.04 | WilliamK | the B's were the last good 3com NIC |
| 06:39.31 | drmessano | Last one I liked was the 3c515 |
| 06:39.37 | Maxous | drmessano: *I can't argue, 3Com has let the other companies like brooktrout take the lead. |
| 06:39.38 | WilliamK | after that, I switched to Intel Server Adapters |
| 06:39.47 | WilliamK | performance went way up |
| 06:39.50 | Maxous | yep |
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| 06:39.58 | jblack | heh. I remember back to when there were 1/2 a dozen cards that worked, as free software, in the linux kernel. One of them was 3com. Sure, you can mostly thank Becker for that, but I'm sure that 3com gave donald the specs he needed. |
| 06:39.59 | Maxous | Ever used a brooktrout? |
| 06:40.04 | drmessano | I would lose 3coms to static DAILY |
| 06:40.24 | Maxous | hah |
| 06:40.35 | WilliamK | drmessano, I still have 3com 905-B's in my closet that work |
| 06:40.49 | WilliamK | c's and their TX-NM's sucked |
| 06:41.03 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:41.17 | drmessano | and the lovely onboard NICs they shoved in Dell GX series boxes |
| 06:41.23 | WilliamK | hell they might as wrote F on them for their grade after the B's |
| 06:41.26 | jblack | drmessano: Sure. I've had a pile of 3c nics in the basement that went belly up after mere weeks in the basement. They were quirky, troublesome, seemingly suicidal beasts. Putting that asside, though... |
| 06:41.29 | drmessano | Whatever that was.. Lost almost all of them |
| 06:41.36 | jblack | 3com doesn't strike me as a fonality. |
| 06:41.36 | drmessano | HAHA |
| 06:41.50 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:42.32 | drmessano | I dont think 3com can handle anything with an RJ-45 on it |
| 06:42.36 | drmessano | BNC though... |
| 06:43.01 | Maxous | bah |
| 06:43.02 | WilliamK | an interesting thought... my dlink nic's mostly worked stable 530+ series, although we fried many dlink switches |
| 06:43.05 | Maxous | 3Com has a huge handle on things. |
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| 06:43.25 | Maxous | Wireless, Firewalls, Voip Systems, Switches and Routers. |
| 06:43.57 | drmessano | Dont get me started on how they made US Robotics modems shitter than PCtel and Lucent WinModems |
| 06:44.01 | Maxous | End to End solutions with a great warranty. |
| 06:44.01 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:44.07 | WilliamK | my customer with a 3com PBX will not be installing another 3com pbx... feature wise they hate it |
| 06:44.33 | Maxous | It has a great list of features. with a great upgrade path. |
| 06:44.36 | WilliamK | and I got told that if they have to have 1 more phone they got issues |
| 06:44.38 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:44.41 | WilliamK | and I'm pacing in the background |
| 06:44.44 | WilliamK | :) |
| 06:44.58 | drmessano | "It sorta works, and offers a nice upsell to something that really does work, sorta too" |
| 06:45.04 | drmessano | Thanks for the pamphlet |
| 06:45.23 | Maxous | don't pin a bad install on the manufacturer. |
| 06:45.34 | Maxous | Could be a 3com partner who doesn't know what he is doing. |
| 06:45.46 | jblack | Ok, you've got a grudge. I see that. |
| 06:45.48 | Maxous | We have 3Com Installs that have been running strong for years. |
| 06:45.52 | drmessano | Good installs start with something that doesnt end in "com" |
| 06:46.02 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:46.14 | WilliamK | :) |
| 06:46.29 | drmessano | a 3c905c in Vista |
| 06:46.32 | drmessano | Great idea |
| 06:46.41 | WilliamK | excellente! |
| 06:46.53 | jblack | But consider this drmessano.... 3com has a habit of participating well in the free software community. They don't just vampirize off of projects. They're the sort of company that helps fund developers, feeds back changes to the community from hence it came, and generally plays nice. |
| 06:47.32 | WilliamK | someone should put one in an envelope and mail it to Microsoft with a letter.... "We here in asterisk believe these 2 properly complement each other...." :) |
| 06:47.38 | jblack | Right, maxous? |
| 06:47.48 | Maxous | Correct. |
| 06:48.03 | Maxous | 3com has a program now, the 3Com ON, Open Network, Program. |
| 06:48.04 | WilliamK | knowing our luck they'd be buying out digium if we did that |
| 06:48.19 | Maxous | I would bet they will buy out polycom. |
| 06:48.22 | jblack | And no, I don't work at 3com, and don't get a penny from them. |
| 06:48.27 | drmessano | Ok, so I will be glad to use the code the contribute, but I wouldnt be caught dead with a 3com anything next to my badly burned body |
| 06:48.35 | Maxous | hah |
| 06:48.36 | drmessano | s/the/they |
| 06:48.43 | jblack | drmessano: Fair enough. |
| 06:49.02 | drmessano | BTW.. I dont expect a natural death |
| 06:49.03 | Maxous | drmessano: what manufacturer do you prefer? |
| 06:49.10 | drmessano | I suspect I will be assassinated |
| 06:49.14 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:49.15 | drmessano | Umm |
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| 06:49.19 | mosty | the only time i ever had a 3com NIC die was after a power surge |
| 06:49.38 | drmessano | For network hardware? |
| 06:49.48 | WilliamK | drmessano, put an IBM thinkpad in bed with you |
| 06:49.53 | WilliamK | it'll take care of you quite well |
| 06:50.02 | Maxous | Does anyone think to surge protect and batter backup equipment? |
| 06:50.03 | emist | lenovo thinkpads now |
| 06:50.03 | jblack | Are those catching on fire again/ |
| 06:50.03 | WilliamK | I saw pics on what happened with one the other night |
| 06:50.12 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:50.19 | Maxous | hah |
| 06:50.22 | drmessano | Maxous, my ground system would make you drool |
| 06:50.25 | drmessano | Seriously |
| 06:50.34 | WilliamK | the mattress caught fire under the notebook |
| 06:50.35 | Maxous | Oh really? |
| 06:50.38 | drmessano | and I would lose 3com nics constantly |
| 06:50.40 | WilliamK | and the guy was in bed |
| 06:50.46 | Maxous | I'm APC certified... |
| 06:50.47 | jblack | Heh. best case scenario, a 3com nic is a mine canary. |
| 06:50.55 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:50.56 | mosty | Maxous, the surge came from the cable modem, which i didn't have a surge protector for |
| 06:50.57 | drmessano | HAHA |
| 06:51.00 | drmessano | true |
| 06:51.07 | WilliamK | Maxous, so am I so what's the point? |
| 06:51.08 | WilliamK | :) |
| 06:51.10 | Maxous | mosty: I hate when that happens. |
| 06:51.25 | drmessano | I have 4 inch ground strap that almost lines the inside of all my buildings |
| 06:51.48 | WilliamK | I've got APC, Symantec, Multi-Tech, and half a dozen other certs |
| 06:51.50 | drmessano | bonded with silver solder to everything |
| 06:51.57 | WilliamK | and working on my newest... cisco cert |
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| 06:52.02 | Maxous | I could drool and know what I'm drooling over... :) |
| 06:52.03 | emist | i have a 10 inch...wait what are we talking about again? |
| 06:52.11 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:52.14 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:52.32 | WilliamK | emist, 10 inch ferret |
| 06:52.34 | WilliamK | :) |
| 06:52.39 | Maxous | I didn't mean to strut it like that. |
| 06:52.42 | emist | =P |
| 06:53.00 | drmessano | Most of my racks are bolted and soldered to 4 inch strap |
| 06:53.19 | WilliamK | emist... and I forgot to add... in your pants of course...chomping away at only you know what... |
| 06:53.21 | WilliamK | :) |
| 06:53.21 | drmessano | Gives me a good idea of whats crap.. You see patterns in what dies when storms hit |
| 06:53.32 | emist | im into that kind of stuff WilliamK |
| 06:53.33 | Maxous | WilliamK: I'm still green to the whole IT world, I know there are many people out there who have TONS of certs. |
| 06:53.48 | drmessano | Certs are crap without experience |
| 06:53.54 | WilliamK | Maxous, certs = just paper |
| 06:53.59 | WilliamK | little dead trees |
| 06:54.02 | emist | paper = trees |
| 06:54.10 | emist | tree = oxygen |
| 06:54.16 | emist | therefore certs = oxygen |
| 06:54.29 | emist | oxygen = good |
| 06:54.33 | drmessano | 80% of people employed in the IT field are "incompetent" |
| 06:54.39 | WilliamK | too much oxygen = bad |
| 06:54.40 | Maxous | lol |
| 06:54.41 | drmessano | So says a recent study |
| 06:54.45 | WilliamK | too little oxygen = bad |
| 06:54.49 | Maxous | Yea, I agree with that. |
| 06:55.00 | drmessano | Thats because employers started hiring script kiddies and not IT workers |
| 06:55.09 | drmessano | I R WINDOZ LOLZ |
| 06:55.12 | WilliamK | drmessano, I have to agree |
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| 06:58.21 | drmessano | Best thing you can do is learn to make a tech resume |
| 06:58.41 | drmessano | Which differs a little from the standard best practices of resume writing |
| 06:58.51 | drmessano | Listing what you know is better than any one line plug for a cert |
| 06:59.12 | jblack | Can I put "fluent in AKERISK" ? |
| 06:59.14 | Maxous | I see. |
| 06:59.23 | Maxous | I work for my family. |
| 06:59.46 | WilliamK | actually I have 2-3 resumes (can't remember) |
| 06:59.55 | Maxous | It is a small family company, we have been in business for 23 years. |
| 06:59.59 | WilliamK | one focuses on IT heavily with Cisco (cisco is in it 52X) |
| 07:00.02 | drmessano | Ah |
| 07:00.05 | WilliamK | and the other is business mgmt |
| 07:00.34 | Maxous | That's another reason I am trying to get into asterisk. |
| 07:01.31 | Maxous | Night everyone. Thank you for the good conversations. Will be on tomorrow evening. |
| 07:01.41 | drmessano | Nite Maxous |
| 07:01.45 | jblack | Maxous: hold up |
| 07:01.54 | Maxous | jblack: yes? |
| 07:02.03 | jblack | When are you going to get that * server running? |
| 07:02.33 | Maxous | jblack:I should have time to get it running tomorrow. It is almost all GUI. |
| 07:02.46 | Maxous | jblack: it is an appliance. |
| 07:03.01 | jblack | Ok, well, have fun with it |
| 07:03.38 | Maxous | jblack: Thanks! I will let you know how it goes if I see you. |
| 07:03.42 | Maxous | Night!! |
| 07:03.46 | jblack | Since you're not strictly speaking an end-user, you might consider looking at straight * too. |
| 07:03.54 | Maxous | Yes. |
| 07:03.56 | Maxous | I am. |
| 07:04.02 | jblack | There's a lot to learn when one doesn't restrict oneself to what the gui assumes. |
| 07:04.09 | drmessano | Good to know whats under the hood |
| 07:04.11 | Maxous | Heh. I agree. |
| 07:04.23 | drmessano | and even in an appliance, you can get an upper hand by knowing tweaks |
| 07:04.31 | drmessano | That the other guy wouldnt |
| 07:04.32 | Maxous | We need a 3com Alt. and Asterisk is it. |
| 07:04.49 | Maxous | I agree. |
| 07:04.54 | jblack | For the very least, it'll give you what sort of capabilities the "appliance" could have, thereby giving you a good idea of what suggestions to feed upstream. |
| 07:05.05 | Maxous | :) |
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| 07:05.22 | Maxous | It is a book that I can't wait to crack. |
| 07:05.27 | fozzmoo | I'm back. |
| 07:05.40 | fozzmoo | So, I'm getting closer to getting my Originate AMI stuff working. |
| 07:05.48 | Maxous | Night! |
| 07:05.53 | jblack | night |
| 07:05.56 | fozzmoo | I only need to figure out what my Channel: needs to look like. |
| 07:06.05 | Maxous | Thank you for your help everyone. |
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| 07:06.10 | fozzmoo | So, it looks like we've got an IAX2 peer called voipstreet. |
| 07:06.59 | fozzmoo | So, the AMI parameter, I'm thinking, should look something like Channel: IAX2/NUMBERTODIAL@voipstreet |
| 07:08.23 | mosty | IAX2/peer/number |
| 07:08.54 | fozzmoo | Ahhh. |
| 07:09.00 | fozzmoo | Thank you. |
| 07:09.18 | fozzmoo | What's the Whatever@PEER mean? |
| 07:09.22 | fozzmoo | Is that a username? |
| 07:09.32 | fozzmoo | I've seen that in my readings. |
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| 07:10.00 | jblack | "To turn keep Asterisk from sending events, you can add the Events parameter to your login command, like this:"..... |
| 07:10.04 | mosty | not sure. it's best to put usernames in iax.conf, not in the dialplan |
| 07:10.08 | fozzmoo | Message: Originate successfully queued |
| 07:10.10 | fozzmoo | Woo! |
| 07:10.17 | jblack | Anyone see the bug in that line? |
| 07:11.36 | mosty | heh, the new bootup sound on polycom's new firmware sounds like the theme to twin peaks |
| 07:11.49 | fozzmoo | Awesome. |
| 07:11.52 | jblack | daaaahhhh. dah dah. |
| 07:12.12 | jblack | did you open it up to find the midgets? |
| 07:14.08 | drmessano | Alright guys, I am out.. have a good one |
| 07:14.32 | jblack | sleep well buddy |
| 07:19.47 | jblack | does meetme in 1.4.17 still require zt-dummy? |
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| 07:27.53 | tsabi | hi, i have a question |
| 07:28.01 | jblack | Ok |
| 07:28.06 | tsabi | can i do with asterisk this: |
| 07:28.59 | tsabi | i have a queue, if every memeber busy, can i send the call to a specific station? |
| 07:29.35 | J4zen | yes, you can. For the technical details i'll have to pass.. but its possible |
| 07:30.03 | tsabi | hmm |
| 07:30.45 | tsabi | i think i just got the point, i need to check if the queue is full, than go anotehr direction |
| 07:30.56 | tsabi | so this is not the setup in teh queue.conf |
| 07:31.30 | jblack | That would seem likely to me, yes |
| 07:33.03 | jblack | look at the TIMEOUT option for queue |
| 07:35.10 | jblack | tsabi: Are you ok with 1 person waiting? |
| 07:35.21 | J4zen | Does anyone happen to have the asteriskNOW-beta6-x86.img.gz Xen image? |
| 07:35.50 | jblack | If so, you can set maxlen=1, and then with the FULL for QUEUESTATUS send anyone else to whatever you want. |
| 07:36.01 | jblack | j4zen: Hmm. check the topic |
| 07:36.34 | tsabi | jblack: no, but if i set it to maxlen=0 it wont work? |
| 07:36.39 | jblack | tsabi: Failing that, you could set a timeout of 10 seconds, and with the TIMEOUT QUEUESTATUS, bounce them somewhere else. |
| 07:36.45 | J4zen | Point taken :) |
| 07:36.48 | jblack | maxlen=0 means no maxiumum. |
| 07:36.57 | jblack | J4zen: awesome. =) |
| 07:36.57 | tsabi | i see |
| 07:36.59 | tsabi | that sucks |
| 07:37.08 | tsabi | i cannot set to no waiters accepted.. |
| 07:37.16 | tsabi | -1 should be no max |
| 07:37.21 | tsabi | and 0 should mean 0 |
| 07:37.26 | tsabi | no? :) |
| 07:37.39 | jblack | So write a patch, submit it to the list for debate. =) |
| 07:37.51 | tsabi | ok :) i will :) |
| 07:38.08 | tsabi | but first i will ask bryant |
| 07:38.17 | jblack | alternatively, you could look at setting the timeout to however long it takes for your people to answer the phone, and then look for bounces after the try. |
| 07:38.25 | tsabi | maybe they have the patch already, just nobody wish that |
| 07:38.49 | jblack | The idea doesn't seem unreasonable to me, but it would break a lot of existing configurations. |
| 07:39.18 | tsabi | yes i know |
| 07:39.46 | jblack | I imagine that reversing your logic (-1 means no wait) is more likely to be accepted. |
| 07:40.02 | jblack | or a new variable for "no waiters" would be more likely |
| 07:41.22 | jblack | To be honest, what you're asking for seems a little odd anyways. |
| 07:41.47 | jblack | A queue is a waiting line. You want a waitingline, but with no wait. |
| 07:42.09 | tsabi | my origin problem is i have a queue in a "Zap/g2/8010", behind this queue there are 30 ppl waiting |
| 07:42.21 | tsabi | but, we have 2 SIP phone to put into this grp |
| 07:42.31 | jblack | so your problem is that people are waiting to olong, and you don't want peole waiting 3 hours. |
| 07:42.38 | jblack | How about this then... |
| 07:42.52 | jblack | set a timeout of X minutes, and if people fall through the timeout, take a message. |
| 07:43.04 | tsabi | so i need to create a queue, but i cannot put the ZAP channel a member |
| 07:43.11 | tsabi | because its not one, its 30 member |
| 07:43.31 | tsabi | and if that holds a call, no more 29 space will filled up |
| 07:43.45 | jblack | Then don't use queues at all, and send them to voicemail. |
| 07:44.16 | tsabi | no voicemail... i need to put the 2 SIP phone into that group, what is handled by another PBX.. |
| 07:44.34 | mosty | tsabi, asterisk's queues suck big time. if you have a complex setup, you're better off implementing your own queue dialplan in agi or macros |
| 07:44.51 | tsabi | hmm, ok |
| 07:44.55 | jblack | mosty: It sounds to me like a case of horrid underprovisioning. |
| 07:45.00 | jblack | 30 people waiting for 2 techs? |
| 07:45.00 | tsabi | but i ahve 10 min to do this :D |
| 07:45.11 | tsabi | so now iw ill implement a queue, than i qill do it better |
| 07:45.30 | jblack | what company is this? |
| 07:45.35 | tsabi | its a call center |
| 07:46.22 | jblack | Ahhh, a credit company. Yes. We need to make sure customers can't get through. |
| 07:46.22 | tsabi | they will switch from an old Kapsch PBX into my asterisk based service |
| 07:46.22 | jblack | If you only have two lines, then I really suggest you not do queues. |
| 07:46.30 | tsabi | i setted up my asterisk box as an ISDN passthrough |
| 07:46.50 | tsabi | than i can route the calls as i wish |
| 07:46.51 | jblack | Shunt line 1 straight to voice mail, use line 2 to call people back based on the voicemail they left. |
| 07:47.14 | tsabi | i just support the service |
| 07:47.18 | tsabi | thsi decision is out of me |
| 07:47.32 | jblack | I understand that you're a not-evil person working for an evil place. |
| 07:47.45 | jblack | I'm just trying to help you come up with something that'll actually work. |
| 07:47.52 | tsabi | ok, thnx |
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| 07:48.19 | jblack | I'm certain that queues are not what you want, because you only have 2 lines. |
| 07:48.40 | jblack | Let me understand this better. |
| 07:48.48 | jblack | There are two people to answer the phones, and two lines, right? |
| 07:48.50 | tsabi | no, not just two lines |
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| 07:49.04 | jblack | many lines, but only two people? |
| 07:49.04 | tsabi | its two E1 line incoming, and two E1 line to the old PBX going |
| 07:49.28 | tsabi | 8010 is a queue implemented the old PBX |
| 07:49.45 | tsabi | its the general queue, almost the half of the caller are going to that |
| 07:49.51 | jblack | ok |
| 07:50.12 | jblack | how many people do you have answering the phone in your part? 2? |
| 07:50.49 | tsabi | ZAP/g2/8010 is handled by the old PBX, i just need to add two SIP phone to that grp, what i cannot do with the old pbx |
| 07:50.55 | jblack | Ok. |
| 07:51.06 | jblack | So setup a Dial(line1&line2,30). |
| 07:51.22 | jblack | Both phones will ring, either person can answer. |
| 07:51.49 | jblack | For all incoming lines, and then setup simple logic to handle BUSY/NOANSWER. |
| 07:51.59 | jblack | That'll be exactly like a queue with 0 wait. |
| 07:52.07 | tsabi | yeah, i will do that thnx :) |
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| 08:04.20 | hmmhesays | i'm starting to remember why I hate agi so much |
| 08:04.44 | J4zen | Does anyone have any expierence with Sipura devices? Suc ghas the 3000? |
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| 08:06.18 | J4zen | such as* |
| 08:08.35 | tsabi | sipura? i just have the linksys ones, the 9xx serie |
| 08:08.45 | tsabi | i have never seent he old sipura ones |
| 08:08.52 | tsabi | but i think its almost the same |
| 08:11.30 | J4zen | Alright, linksys works |
| 08:11.40 | J4zen | im just looking for some overal expierence with those boxes |
| 08:11.59 | J4zen | it basically provides an interface for Asterisk to work with a PSTN right? |
| 08:12.13 | J4zen | By providing a SIP-trunk |
| 08:12.19 | J4zen | or am i wrong? |
| 08:12.39 | tsabi | SIP station |
| 08:12.56 | J4zen | 'station' ? |
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| 08:15.23 | J4zen | Basically all i need is a device that simply forwards all incoming calls on a PSTN to my PBX and forwards all outgoing calls from the PBX back out through the PSTN. |
| 08:15.30 | J4zen | the linksys/sipura 3000 would suffice? |
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| 08:23.59 | hmmhesays | I use quintum for that |
| 08:24.25 | hmmhesays | what kind of pbx? |
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| 08:26.25 | J4zen | Trixbox in this case, i'd like to use it on vanilla as well at a later point |
| 08:27.29 | mchou | hi, I'm a noob at using voip, looking for some recommendations on Analog Telephone Adapters (ATA) so I don't always have to use a softphone |
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| 08:28.19 | mosty | mchou, linksys spa3120's are pretty simple and cheap |
| 08:29.29 | mchou | I'm done some reading and looking around, but it seems linksys/dlink PAP2 and Grandstream pretty much the only ones available if you want one that's unlocked out of the box.... |
| 08:30.08 | mchou | umm, s/I'm/I've |
| 08:30.18 | SwK | mchou, a pap2/spa2xxx series are cheap... voip-supply.com |
| 08:30.59 | mchou | SwK:does pap2 support iLBC? |
| 08:31.14 | SwK | and a linksys pap2 and a sipura 2002 are the exact same thing the plastic boxes are slightly different and the web ui has a different skin |
| 08:31.19 | SwK | no it supposed g729 |
| 08:31.37 | SwK | no carriers worth a damned support ilbc |
| 08:31.46 | mchou | SwK: playing with the softphones I had best success with iLBC..... |
| 08:32.13 | mchou | SwK: Isnt the codec negotiated phone to phone? |
| 08:32.19 | SwK | heh |
| 08:32.20 | SwK | no |
| 08:32.29 | SwK | only if its VoIP -> VoIP only call |
| 08:32.51 | SwK | and then 99.99% of carriers have to proxy the media for nat'd connections anyway |
| 08:33.36 | SwK | not to mention anytime it goes to the PSTN you have to go thru a media gateway and there arent any (that I know of) high density media gateways that do ilbc |
| 08:34.22 | mchou | SwK: wow, that I didnt know. 99.99% carriers proxy the media? You mean they have to carry the RTP themselves, in a manner of speaking? |
| 08:34.26 | hmmhesays | this agi is killing me, perl, waiting for input on STDIN, it just hangs |
| 08:35.14 | SwK | well unless you are calling one of their customers they proxy the media just to keep you from knowing where they are sending it to |
| 08:35.36 | SwK | if you are behind NAT theres a good possibility they will proxy the media as a nat busting mechanism |
| 08:36.09 | SwK | and in the US most carriers proxy the media anyway so they can comply with CALEA wire taps |
| 08:36.19 | JT | mchou: most real world voip is proxied by service providers |
| 08:36.29 | JT | as if end points talk directly to each other |
| 08:36.32 | JT | not on this Internet |
| 08:36.39 | mchou | JT: so that's the real reason it sounds like crap? :) |
| 08:36.41 | JT | not in this business environment :) |
| 08:36.46 | JT | NAT is no.1 |
| 08:36.58 | SwK | mchou, it only soundslike crap if you dont do it right |
| 08:36.58 | WilliamK | this is coool.... I'm IRC'ing from my bed... |
| 08:37.01 | JT | endpoints talking directly tends not to work with NAT |
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| 08:37.31 | WilliamK | ulaw rocks |
| 08:37.32 | WilliamK | :) |
| 08:37.35 | hmmhesays | lpc10 all the way bitches |
| 08:37.41 | JT | alaw for the win |
| 08:37.41 | SwK | hah hmmhesays |
| 08:37.48 | SwK | lpc10 > * |
| 08:38.04 | SwK | no one that matters uses alaw |
| 08:38.14 | JT | not true |
| 08:38.16 | SwK | heh |
| 08:38.22 | hmmhesays | not on this side of the pond |
| 08:38.27 | JT | most countries outside of the US use alaw |
| 08:38.31 | JT | and canada and japan |
| 08:38.34 | tzafrir | SwK, saying it at this time of the day is not such a good idea |
| 08:38.47 | tzafrir | Noone that matter and is awake uses ulaw |
| 08:39.01 | mchou | SwK: ok, So I dont want to come across as dense, if that's really the case, how come I had best voice quality with iLBC? |
| 08:39.25 | SwK | mchou, ilbc is more tollerent of crappy network connections |
| 08:39.38 | mchou | I mean if media is proxied and not end to end RTP is provisioned iLBC most likely wont work, correct? |
| 08:39.44 | tzafrir | mchou, iLBC loses some quality. However alaw / ulaw requires more bamdwidth |
| 08:39.57 | JT | mchou: that's impossible unless you have a bad connection |
| 08:40.05 | tzafrir | If you're short of that, better use a compressed codec |
| 08:40.08 | JT | mchou: the PSTN IS G.711 (ulaw / alaw) |
| 08:40.17 | SwK | iLBC was also designed to handle packet loss a lot better then g729 and way better then G723 |
| 08:40.20 | mchou | JT: what are you referring to as impossible? |
| 08:40.30 | JT | mchou: when you talk to the pstn, whatever you used, like iLBC, is transcoded to G.711 |
| 08:40.41 | mosty | ilbc also takes longer to transcode, from memory |
| 08:40.43 | JT | mchou: iLBC sounding better than G.711 on a good network |
| 08:40.52 | SwK | ilbc is a cpu hog |
| 08:41.00 | mchou | JT: so you are telling me ekiga likes about far end and near end codecs? |
| 08:41.08 | JT | mchou: what? |
| 08:41.11 | mchou | s/likes/lies |
| 08:41.22 | mchou | JT: sorry |
| 08:41.32 | mchou | JT: lousy typist |
| 08:41.35 | JT | mchou: when you talk to the PSTN, you WILL be transcoded to G.711 |
| 08:41.36 | SwK | ekiga doesnt do G729 last time i checked |
| 08:42.00 | JT | mchou: whether or not anything tells you |
| 08:42.34 | SwK | no PSTN carriers use less then G711 unless they are super cheap crappy intl carriers then they wanna use G723.1 |
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| 08:45.47 | mchou | Are there any issues re echo cancellation if I want to use a PSTN speakephone attached to an ATA? |
| 08:46.01 | mchou | speakerphone* |
| 08:46.23 | mosty | any speakerphone without echo cancellation is worthless |
| 08:47.27 | mchou | mosty: I'm asking if there are any special requirements on the ATA as well as the phone |
| 08:47.56 | mosty | no, the ata does not care if it's a speakerphone or not |
| 08:48.28 | mchou | like whether the ATA needs a good implementation of line aec |
| 08:48.52 | mchou | as opposed to the "room" aec |
| 08:49.16 | mchou | which would be provided by the speakerphone (presumably) |
| 08:49.33 | SwK | why all the worry about ec? |
| 08:49.58 | mchou | because I dont want any stinking echoes on the far end |
| 08:50.11 | SwK | then dont use a crappy carrier |
| 08:50.17 | mchou | very annoying to the user on the far end |
| 08:50.18 | SwK | eh |
| 08:50.23 | SwK | sorry |
| 08:50.29 | mosty | mchou, then buy a good speakerphone, polycom are the best |
| 08:50.32 | SwK | all the echo issues get annoying at time |
| 08:50.57 | SwK | spend the money of a polycom IP5XX IP6XX or IP4000 series phone and dont worry about echo |
| 08:51.46 | SwK | if echo is really that big of a concern I would want an analog phone hanging off an ATA... its just not worth it |
| 08:52.33 | mchou | virtually all the softphones on linux I've tried have terrible echo on the far end even if aec is enabled. That's why I'm concerned (if that's representative) of the true user experience |
| 08:52.37 | JT | wow |
| 08:52.42 | JT | ~softphones |
| 08:52.45 | JT | softphones are shit |
| 08:52.48 | JT | all of them |
| 08:52.52 | JT | some more than others |
| 08:52.59 | JT | buy a polycom. |
| 08:54.22 | J4zen | or SNOM |
| 08:54.29 | J4zen | if you're a bit of a tweaker |
| 08:54.29 | mchou | SNOM?? |
| 08:54.30 | J4zen | go for SNOM |
| 08:54.36 | J4zen | OS firmware :) |
| 08:54.40 | SwK | Polycom > SNOM |
| 08:54.52 | J4zen | couldn't say, never tried polycom |
| 08:54.58 | SwK | i have |
| 08:55.00 | J4zen | am very pleased with my SNOM 320's |
| 08:55.04 | mchou | lol, when it comes to $, yes |
| 08:55.17 | SwK | and cisco and linksys and insert some other manufacturer here |
| 08:55.27 | JT | snom have accoustic echo problems |
| 08:55.33 | JT | affects some male voices badly |
| 08:55.34 | SwK | when it comes to reliability and 'just f'n works' Polycom > * |
| 08:55.41 | JT | we have a 50 seat callcentre on snoms |
| 08:55.44 | JT | and they're not happy |
| 08:56.03 | J4zen | seriously? i havn't had a single issue yet |
| 08:56.09 | J4zen | though i'm running 8 |
| 08:56.16 | JT | yeah, a half second or so delayed echo |
| 08:56.23 | JT | phone user hears their own voice |
| 08:56.44 | JT | doesn't affect women as badly as men |
| 08:57.52 | J4zen | odd |
| 08:58.12 | J4zen | you sure thats the phone though? Most of the time the echo isn't related to the phone, but more of a PBX issue |
| 08:58.21 | SwK | hahaha |
| 08:58.23 | SwK | thats funny |
| 08:58.42 | SwK | echo comes from all over the place |
| 08:58.44 | jblack | breaking bad was great. :) |
| 08:59.01 | JT | J4zen: are you forgetting that asterisk is a digital soft pbx? |
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| 08:59.45 | SwK | even digital links can echo |
| 09:00.06 | mchou | yup, very true |
| 09:00.32 | JT | they can, and they can make echo worse |
| 09:00.38 | JT | but rarely do they echo themselves |
| 09:00.42 | JT | but there are exceptions |
| 09:00.47 | mchou | hence my question regarding ATA aec |
| 09:01.03 | mosty | JT, i've never noticed echo issues with snom phones |
| 09:01.24 | JT | you have to speak at a decent volume |
| 09:01.25 | nixguy | whoever invented echo should get fired |
| 09:01.38 | JT | that's another negative against snoms |
| 09:01.42 | mchou | nixguy: huh?? |
| 09:01.44 | J4zen | Sorry, was afk |
| 09:01.45 | nixguy | :) |
| 09:01.48 | JT | but there's nowhere near enough good points to use them |
| 09:01.57 | mchou | nixguy: it's physics man |
| 09:02.01 | J4zen | I see |
| 09:02.09 | J4zen | fundamental missunderstanding i suppose ;) |
| 09:02.09 | jblack | Hey, do you guys know if zt-dummy is still necessary for meetme in 2.4.17? |
| 09:02.28 | mosty | JT, the only thing that really bugs me about snom's is the lack of a decent headset |
| 09:02.38 | JT | i've advised my employers they should refuse to implement snoms at customer sites |
| 09:02.50 | JT | such a waste of time fixing snom issues, and what is good about snom? |
| 09:02.53 | JT | ugly phone |
| 09:02.55 | JT | ugly ui |
| 09:02.55 | mosty | jblack, probably, why? |
| 09:03.04 | JT | not very good quality |
| 09:03.22 | JT | and now, echo |
| 09:03.29 | mosty | JT, good web interface, relatively low cost, good feature set, work fine if you don't use a beta firmware etc |
| 09:03.32 | jblack | mosty: Just wanted to know. |
| 09:03.51 | JT | web interface isn't really relevant, phones should be mass provisioned 99% of the time |
| 09:04.03 | mosty | snom provisioning is great too |
| 09:04.13 | JT | they're a waste of money compared to polycom, especially the IP320/330 |
| 09:04.25 | JT | horrible horrible character matrix display |
| 09:04.28 | JT | on the snoms |
| 09:04.44 | mosty | it's a phone, not a tv, as long as i can read the callerid i don't care about the lcd |
| 09:05.14 | JT | err the ui is much more intuitive as well as nicer looking when you have dot matrix driven lcds |
| 09:05.14 | mosty | they support ldap address books, which i have yet to see working on polycom |
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| 09:05.33 | JT | which is great if the lcds is as small as on the low end snoms |
| 09:05.36 | SwK | *YAWN* ldap |
| 09:05.41 | mosty | i use both snom and polycom, i don't know why some people hate snom so much |
| 09:05.55 | JT | snom lcds look almost the same as cisco SP12+ phones |
| 09:05.56 | SwK | mosty, why do people hate windeos |
| 09:05.58 | SwK | err windows |
| 09:06.04 | JT | and i don't have to say how old those phones are |
| 09:06.26 | SwK | its like aastra's i wouldnt buy them... had too mant NAT issues witht hem |
| 09:06.37 | mosty | the snom web interface is useful for more than just provisioning |
| 09:06.41 | SwK | would work fine on a lan... put it behind nat and it wouldnt work |
| 09:07.23 | SwK | ah |
| 09:07.35 | SwK | looks like i started the phone religion war |
| 09:08.01 | JT | aastras also mostly have horrible character matrix displays, but they physical layout and appearance is far superior to snoms |
| 09:08.05 | JT | their |
| 09:08.22 | JT | i think the new aastras dont use char matrix anymore |
| 09:08.51 | mosty | i've used phones with big pretty lcd's and never thought it was that much better than a phone with a tiny/crappy lcd |
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| 09:09.22 | SwK | use it to monitor all sorts of stuff |
| 09:09.41 | SwK | jblack, we all know vi is the bestest |
| 09:09.52 | jblack | Of course. |
| 09:10.06 | SwK | using emacs is like using notepad for coding |
| 09:10.18 | JT | lol |
| 09:10.21 | JT | more like msword |
| 09:10.29 | SwK | wordpad even |
| 09:10.44 | jblack | I agree. One OS is enough for a macine. No need to install a second one w/ emacs. |
| 09:10.53 | SwK | hahaha |
| 09:11.04 | SwK | edlin is still the greatest ever editor |
| 09:11.18 | JT | so completely different topic: is it now impossible to sign up for a windows live id under your own email address (not hotmail/etc)? |
| 09:11.21 | jblack | Then put vim in sed mode. |
| 09:11.43 | jblack | Did I just see a * scroll by in the asterisk build? |
| 09:11.46 | sergee | ~seen pj |
| 09:11.49 | jbot | pj <n=asdf@198.172.153.2> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 584d 18h 9m 32s ago, saying: 'it should be in the conf file folder'. |
| 09:12.36 | SwK | jblack, you mean a big ascii * logo? |
| 09:12.49 | jblack | Maybe? |
| 09:13.06 | SwK | you probably did thats been in there since like 1.4 someone had way too much time on their hands |
| 09:13.25 | jblack | and all I want is meetme |
| 09:13.30 | JT | or they had aalib |
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| 09:13.57 | SwK | either way it was too much time on their hands |
| 09:14.02 | JT | true |
| 09:14.32 | jblack | Ok, this is odd. In asterisk-1.4.17~dfsg, there seems to be no ztdummy. |
| 09:14.41 | jblack | Is the ztdummy driver proprietary software? |
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| 09:14.49 | beasty_ | morning all |
| 09:14.50 | JT | SwK: as are commits to praise mark |
| 09:14.59 | SwK | ztdummy is part of zaptel |
| 09:15.09 | beasty_ | i have some troubles regarding a sip client i recently added |
| 09:15.27 | beasty_ | it's giving me this back |
| 09:15.29 | jblack | Then I'm building the wrong thing |
| 09:15.29 | beasty_ | [Jan 21 09:58:41] WARNING[16677]: app_dial.c:1099 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination) == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1) |
| 09:15.35 | beasty_ | any clue ? |
| 09:16.07 | sergee | beasty_: No route to destination = device is unreachable through IP |
| 09:16.35 | beasty_ | that's weird |
| 09:16.42 | sergee | beasty_: why? |
| 09:16.44 | beasty_ | what i did notice is this |
| 09:16.45 | beasty_ | [Jan 21 09:58:30] NOTICE[16661]: chan_sip.c:12157 handle_response_peerpoke: Peer 'dbwifi' is now Lagged. (154ms / 50ms) |
| 09:16.55 | sergee | beasty_: :) |
| 09:17.06 | beasty_ | problem is i don't know how to fix that |
| 09:17.07 | sergee | beasty_: try to increase qualify param |
| 09:17.12 | beasty_ | ok |
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| 09:17.25 | sergee | what is your current qualify value? |
| 09:18.13 | beasty_ | max |
| 09:18.27 | beasty_ | i dnno it's this crappy phone |
| 09:20.43 | beasty_ | mm |
| 09:20.47 | beasty_ | it stays lagged |
| 09:22.04 | beasty_ | *CLI> [Jan 21 10:06:54] NOTICE[16821]: chan_sip.c:15197 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer 'dbwifi' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 225 |
| 09:22.14 | beasty_ | that's what i got last before i rebooted it |
| 09:24.31 | sergee | beasty_: set qualify=no for this peer/user |
| 09:24.57 | RoyK | is the qualify code still bad? |
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| 09:27.41 | beasty_ | great |
| 09:27.44 | beasty_ | thanks sergee |
| 09:27.46 | jblack | well, that's not so bad. |
| 09:28.54 | jblack | at least until the next time I upgrade the kernel, at which point, days or weeks could go by before I realize I need to do this again |
| 09:28.57 | sergee | beasty_: if you want to keep your qualify functionality, you should increase it's value (eg use qulify=300 or something like that) |
| 09:29.06 | beasty_ | ok |
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| 09:29.31 | sergee | beasty_: read more about qulify in THE book, or at voip-info.org |
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| 09:46.33 | RoyK | http://jerryleecooper.com/ |
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| 09:50.21 | jblack | I setup a conference at 600@mercury.linuxguru.net |
| 09:50.46 | jblack | pardon, sip:600@mercury.linuxguru.net, also reahable as iax2:600@mercury.linuxguru.net |
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| 10:03.48 | nebojsajsimic | ola |
| 10:03.52 | nebojsajsimic | Hi all |
| 10:03.53 | jblack | hi |
| 10:04.00 | tsabi | hi |
| 10:04.05 | nebojsajsimic | can someone give me little help |
| 10:04.06 | nebojsajsimic | ??? |
| 10:04.12 | tsabi | if we can :) |
| 10:04.18 | jblack | possibly |
| 10:04.28 | nebojsajsimic | ok i have 2N GSM gateway |
| 10:04.41 | nebojsajsimic | and my Agents is on CellPhones |
| 10:05.02 | nebojsajsimic | can i make something to login/logout my agents |
| 10:05.37 | nebojsajsimic | calling a server or sending SMS or any other way |
| 10:05.56 | nebojsajsimic | to make Agent state "ONLINE" or " OFFLINE: |
| 10:06.09 | jblack | No idea. I would think that would have to be configured by the 2n |
| 10:06.35 | nebojsajsimic | No i have 4 GSM cards in Gateway |
| 10:06.41 | nebojsajsimic | and have 10 Agents |
| 10:06.48 | jblack | ok. I don't know. |
| 10:07.28 | nebojsajsimic | wehere is pointer of agent status??? |
| 10:07.34 | nebojsajsimic | in Asterisk |
| 10:08.19 | jblack | with AddQueueMember and RemoveQueueMember |
| 10:08.21 | jblack | They're applications |
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| 10:09.20 | jblack | you'll find AddQueueMember on pg 367, and RemoveQueueMember on page 426 |
| 10:09.46 | nebojsajsimic | ok |
| 10:09.49 | nebojsajsimic | thanks |
| 10:11.09 | jblack | basically, set up a pair of extensions for each agent. One to add themselves, and one to remove themselves. |
| 10:11.56 | jblack | Or... Setup a login/logout context, and have agents enter their ID, which is used to add/remove them. |
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| 10:13.45 | nebojsajsimic | basicly i need to make one voicemeny on some ext to login and logout agents ??? |
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| 10:14.21 | jblack | You can do it any of a million ways. That's one. |
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| 10:15.18 | jblack | nobody is calling my conference. :( |
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| 10:44.10 | tsabi | jblack: :D |
| 10:44.22 | tsabi | with who u wish to talk? :D |
| 10:44.36 | jblack | whoever else is bored. |
| 10:45.45 | Faustov | hi guys, i just noticed something hilarious... i'm running a conference room with meetme, 5 guys dialed in, entered pin, got validated ok, however one person was unavailabe to get his pin validated from a voip phone, then he routed his call via different voip provider and it worked (he can make calls with both voip providers otherwise) |
| 10:45.54 | Faustov | what could be the reason for such behaviour? |
| 10:46.05 | mosty | nebojsajsimic, show queue foo, should show you the agents in the queue |
| 10:46.11 | jblack | Faustov: He lied to you. |
| 10:46.26 | Faustov | no way |
| 10:46.33 | Faustov | i could see him in the console |
| 10:46.39 | Faustov | plus, thats my boss :> |
| 10:46.53 | jblack | Tell your boss you should get a raise for his lying? :) |
| 10:46.56 | jblack | seriously, though.... |
| 10:47.06 | jblack | perhaps the dtmf settings between the two calls differ. |
| 10:47.18 | Faustov | yeah but where can i set dtmf? |
| 10:47.26 | Faustov | i set them on the phone itself |
| 10:47.35 | jblack | it's typically set in sip.conf, and on the device as well. |
| 10:47.42 | Faustov | ic |
| 10:47.49 | Faustov | what is the setting called? |
| 10:48.14 | nebojsajsimic | look i neeed BIG help with asterisk |
| 10:48.24 | jblack | In sip.conf, it's dtmfmode. the standard is rfc2833 |
| 10:48.43 | Faustov | ;relaxdtmf=yes ; Relax dtmf handling <--- what does this mean? :> |
| 10:49.02 | Faustov | jblack: i set that per [sipaccount], right? |
| 10:49.02 | jblack | I can't explain it better than that. |
| 10:49.19 | Faustov | oh, relax is some private name |
| 10:49.20 | Faustov | ok |
| 10:49.45 | *** join/#asterisk tiav (n=tiav@inv75-3-82-241-117-16.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:49.45 | mosty | nebojsajsimic, perhaps you should look for a local asterisk consultant? |
| 10:49.45 | jblack | you can set the default dtmfmode in general, and you can set it per sip channel. |
| 10:49.54 | nebojsajsimic | i need to catch a bit of asterisk programing |
| 10:49.59 | jblack | He could just ask here too. |
| 10:50.41 | mosty | jblack, of course, but you should not expect miracles from an irc channel |
| 10:51.10 | jblack | It's a step up from taking someone away from an irc channel and asking for private help. |
| 10:51.11 | Faustov | thanks jblack, general sounds a good place for that |
| 10:51.38 | mosty | nebojsajsimic, what are you trying to do, and where are you stuck? |
| 10:51.48 | nebojsajsimic | i have callcenter |
| 10:51.58 | nebojsajsimic | my agent is on mobilphones |
| 10:52.11 | nebojsajsimic | i have e1 |
| 10:52.12 | jblack | Didn't I already answer your question? |
| 10:52.59 | jblack | mosty: If I remember correctly, he has a Queue going, and he wants to dial out to agents for the routing. |
| 10:53.45 | mosty | nebojsajsimic, so where are you stuck? |
| 10:53.48 | nebojsajsimic | YES on some way that I don't have clear because i don't know |
| 10:53.53 | jblack | He didn't know how to active and deactivate agents. I suggested he look at the add and remove queueagent applications, either in a context that asks for the agent's id, or by setting up a pair of extensions for each agent. |
| 10:53.55 | nebojsajsimic | on begin :) |
| 10:54.01 | *** join/#asterisk admin0 (n=admin@202.161.147.14) |
| 10:54.07 | jblack | If you want to take it deeper than that, be my guest. =) |
| 10:54.59 | mosty | nebojsajsimic, have you read the booK? |
| 10:55.01 | mosty | ~book |
| 10:55.02 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 10:55.08 | mosty | that is where you begin |
| 10:55.20 | jblack | shallower is nice, too |
| 10:55.21 | tsabi | the book.. lol.. i dont like this book |
| 10:55.26 | tsabi | the first one was much better |
| 10:55.34 | tsabi | this is fucked up in a lot way |
| 10:56.13 | jblack | So screwed up, that you could write a better one? |
| 10:56.23 | nebojsajsimic | i download book but i'm not read all |
| 10:56.49 | tsabi | i miss normal official documentation |
| 10:57.06 | tsabi | where if something change in the code, than they change it in the documentation |
| 10:57.12 | tsabi | that can be a real reference book |
| 10:57.23 | tsabi | just like at python |
| 10:57.37 | mosty | tsabi, asterisk moves too quickly for that at the moment |
| 10:57.47 | jblack | You're welcome to read application help at the console (show application dial , for example). |
| 10:57.56 | jblack | Also, the source code is always at your beck and call. |
| 10:58.22 | nebojsajsimic | ok thanks i will first read that book and then i will came bach here if somthing miss |
| 10:58.27 | nebojsajsimic | thanks !!! |
| 10:58.30 | tsabi | :) |
| 10:58.44 | tsabi | another happy user :D life is nice :D:D:D |
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| 10:59.12 | Faustov | jblack: is it possible that even if i got dtmf=auto on the phone and rfc2833 on asterisk, the provider changes it so that they arrive at remote asterisk as something else? |
| 10:59.19 | jblack | he's not happy. He wanted someone to rewrite his config for him. |
| 10:59.40 | nebojsajsimic | no that i don't like |
| 10:59.42 | tsabi | jblack: nothing perfect :D |
| 10:59.42 | jblack | faustov: Isn't he logging in directly to asterisk, with sip? |
| 11:00.14 | jblack | if he's using a proxy, it's possible. |
| 11:00.34 | mosty | Faustov, yes |
| 11:00.43 | jblack | if he's logging his phone into the * server directly, it's highly improbable. I'd be more worried about a killer asteroid. |
| 11:00.50 | nebojsajsimic | i like only explanation because i must know to programing...... |
| 11:01.10 | jblack | Yes. Someday you will be great to programming. |
| 11:01.32 | Faustov | jblack: he's using voip from another provider in a distant city, where he has his own asterisk, he dials into my asterisk but cannot get his conference pin validated |
| 11:01.34 | nebojsajsimic | I hope ... i'm new in this .... |
| 11:01.44 | jblack | First rule of programming: 90% of it is reading a lot before you write any code. |
| 11:01.52 | Faustov | jblack: so it is like: his phone -> asterisk -> provider -> asterisk -> confcall |
| 11:01.55 | jblack | lots of study is important. |
| 11:02.01 | nebojsajsimic | i work with asterisk 5 days .... i |
| 11:02.16 | nebojsajsimic | i must learn i know ..... |
| 11:02.26 | jblack | Faustov: Hmmm yeah, you'll have to make sure those 4 major steps (ph, *, *) are all set to 2833 |
| 11:02.51 | jblack | nebojsajsimic: Don't take this wrong, because you seem very nice. |
| 11:03.05 | jblack | To understand asterisk really well, it took me 3 weeks. And I speak english natively |
| 11:03.08 | Faustov | jblack: but even then the isp can change it? |
| 11:03.13 | jblack | It might take you much longer than 5 days. |
| 11:03.33 | jblack | faustov: In about the same way that the ISP can change the data you enter into web forms. |
| 11:03.55 | jblack | An isp "can" do anything to the packets you send across their wire. but you're off in conspiracy land when you presume that. |
| 11:04.17 | Faustov | jblack: i thought "bridging" of all kinds of stuff in voip happens on daily basis |
| 11:04.30 | Faustov | but good to know the isp is unlikely to mess with it |
| 11:04.49 | nebojsajsimic | ok where i can find books and is this one BEST ??? |
| 11:04.59 | nebojsajsimic | for undertanding asterisk... |
| 11:05.10 | jblack | much, much, much more likely is that you forgot to reload the configs on the * servers, and that "auto" on his phone doesn't mean 2833 |
| 11:05.22 | jblack | nebojsajsimic: That is _the_ book. It's worth buying. |
| 11:06.05 | troubled | hey, with DTMF what do these "military and government" phones use the 1633Hz letters for? |
| 11:06.34 | troubled | and what happens when you send em to ma bell? |
| 11:06.41 | nebojsajsimic | ok thanks for all i go now to read .... se you for some day bye |
| 11:07.10 | mosty | troubled, i imagine that they're just different tones, the other end would just not recognise them as anything special |
| 11:07.22 | Faustov | jblack: the manual says auto means: use 2833 if offered |
| 11:07.39 | Faustov | jblack: i just need to set it on his asterisk now, last place it needs to be done |
| 11:07.45 | troubled | i gather that. im just curious what sorts of uses they have in the gov/mil |
| 11:07.53 | jblack | Faustov: Ok. THe book is smarter than I |
| 11:08.13 | jblack | troubled: I believe ma bell ignores 'em. |
| 11:09.02 | mosty | troubled, probably just more options in an IVR |
| 11:09.04 | troubled | jblack: so they ignore them as far as residential use goes? still, they cant block them (well, if they really try perhaps?) right? |
| 11:09.12 | jblack | but A launches airplanes, B launches boats, and C launches Cruise missles. |
| 11:09.21 | jblack | You don't want to know what D does. |
| 11:09.26 | troubled | would make for a strong password prompt for sure |
| 11:09.31 | troubled | lol |
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| 11:10.00 | troubled | "awww, your cheap phone cant type my password? too bad :)" |
| 11:10.07 | Thazza | hey All. |
| 11:10.13 | jblack | Don't scoff. ;) |
| 11:11.12 | troubled | better question, can passwords for * voice mail use [ABCD]? |
| 11:11.17 | jblack | duct tape is very secure if no-one else has scissors |
| 11:11.23 | jblack | I don't see why not. |
| 11:11.57 | troubled | but would a letter be converted to a number dialed letter? or assumed to be one of the 1633Hz tones? |
| 11:12.12 | jblack | no, they're separate dtmf tones. |
| 11:12.35 | troubled | yes i know that, but how does * treat letters in the passwd field for voicemail? |
| 11:12.39 | jblack | think of them not as abc and d, but 10, 11, 12 and 13 |
| 11:12.49 | jblack | my bet is a,b,c and d |
| 11:13.22 | troubled | but does voicemail password also allow the rest of the alphabet letters? |
| 11:13.32 | mosty | troubled: try it and see. connect a tone generator up to an analogue phone connected to your zap interface |
| 11:13.46 | troubled | ie: would the letter W be considered 9? |
| 11:13.49 | jblack | I think you're getting confused with the idea that those buttons are called a,b,c and d |
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| 11:14.17 | jblack | They're just.. called that. You could call them * / + - as well. |
| 11:14.27 | troubled | no, im not confused, i understand them fine. my question is how does * treat and identify them |
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| 11:14.38 | jblack | I believe as abcd |
| 11:15.11 | troubled | what about the voicemail? does it accept all letters? |
| 11:15.20 | jblack | I believe so. |
| 11:15.33 | jblack | But I don't have a phone with abcd, so I'm not able to test. |
| 11:15.34 | troubled | ie, a password of "test" = 8378 |
| 11:16.03 | tzafrir | no. If you put "test" as the secret it will not be the equivalent of 8378 |
| 11:16.04 | jblack | You see? You're back to pretending abcd have actual alphanumeric meaning. |
| 11:16.05 | troubled | but if thats the case, is a password of "abcd" = 2223 or the 1633Hz "abcd"? |
| 11:16.50 | jblack | I'm not aware of setting alphabetic passwords in vmail.conf |
| 11:16.54 | troubled | you are forgetting that im asking specifically how voicemail in * treats and is configured to treat them |
| 11:16.59 | *** part/#asterisk redback (n=kieran@82.152.56.113) |
| 11:17.00 | troubled | ok, thats what i was after :) |
| 11:17.44 | troubled | mosty: ya, would be interesting to see that. not sure where i can grab a tone generator though. think i seen a name in this book though |
| 11:17.59 | jblack | that said, if you want to assign people the password 3675 and tell them to type "dork".. then by all means, go ahead. |
| 11:18.04 | mosty | troubled, use a computer, could even be the same one running asterisk |
| 11:18.34 | jblack | troubled: even if you can, it's a really, really, bad idea. |
| 11:18.56 | troubled | jblack: i see where you are going and understand that, but i was talking about it in a different way you dont seem to be grasping. but you answered it by telling me letters arent allowed in voicemail password |
| 11:19.36 | jblack | I think you want to list "dork" as a password in vmail.conf, and people will type in 3575, and it will just work. |
| 11:19.42 | jblack | i.e. bidirectional mapping. |
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| 11:20.39 | troubled | jblack: lets assume for a sec that i could put in letters a-z in the password field and * would convert them to numbers, _AND_ * voicemail literally accepted A,B,C and D as the 1633Hz tones, which would it allow? See the conflict? |
| 11:21.25 | mosty | troubled, i do not think asterisk would convert letters in voicemail.conf to numbers |
| 11:21.25 | jblack | Sure. If asterisk allowed someone to do a stupid thing, it would logically conflict with an obscure thing. |
| 11:21.32 | troubled | mosty: sure i could use the dsp i suppose, but i dont know of software to generate the dtmf tones i need |
| 11:21.35 | mosty | at least not e-z |
| 11:21.43 | troubled | true |
| 11:22.10 | mosty | troubled, you will probably have to look at the code to find out |
| 11:22.44 | jblack | It's 6:22 am here. I've been helping people off and on for 14 hours. |
| 11:22.48 | troubled | mosty: well, i know A = 1633+697, but not sure what that means. i assume both are generated at the same time and the combined sound is what i want? |
| 11:23.00 | troubled | jblack: go to sleep ;p |
| 11:23.02 | jblack | yes, that's how dtmf works. |
| 11:23.13 | jblack | They're x,y coordinates. |
| 11:23.27 | troubled | so they literally add togethere? |
| 11:23.28 | jblack | There's 4 tones for the columns, and 4 tones for the rows. |
| 11:23.43 | troubled | and the staggered nature means no two letters will conflict? |
| 11:23.48 | troubled | err numbers |
| 11:23.51 | jblack | In such simple words, yes. |
| 11:23.56 | troubled | k |
| 11:24.15 | troubled | ~1209+697 |
| 11:24.15 | jbot | 1906 |
| 11:24.16 | jblack | isn't this in the book? |
| 11:24.25 | jblack | Nonono. They're not added. |
| 11:24.37 | jblack | They're both played at once. That's why you hear a chord. |
| 11:24.41 | troubled | well, im looking at the chart, but they havent really went into detail about it yet |
| 11:25.17 | troubled | so you mean its actually occilating back and forth between the two points? |
| 11:25.26 | troubled | like a weird sine wave? |
| 11:25.32 | jblack | No, it's mixing them together. heterodyning them. |
| 11:25.58 | jblack | Yes. It's the additive result of two sine waves, of two different frequencies. |
| 11:26.02 | jblack | Exactly. |
| 11:26.03 | troubled | but the number "1" wouldnt just sound like a single 1906Hz tone? |
| 11:26.29 | jblack | I don't have the freq chart in front of me, but there should be 2 freqs played for 1 |
| 11:26.55 | troubled | yes, 1209 and 697 as what i used in the bot math |
| 11:26.57 | jblack | here google boy |
| 11:27.25 | jblack | btw, you could have found this yourself |
| 11:27.28 | jblack | http://www.tech-faq.com/dtmf-tone-frequencies.shtml |
| 11:27.46 | jblack | 1 is the additive result of 697hz and 1209hz |
| 11:27.59 | jblack | You need both at the same time. If you just have one of them, it's not a 1. |
| 11:28.08 | jblack | Think of them as x/y coordinates. |
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| 11:28.45 | troubled | thats the same chart as the book has btw |
| 11:28.46 | jblack | So when you hit 1, you are hearing a 697hz tone, and a 1209hz tone at the same time. |
| 11:29.29 | jblack | And like any two tones of different frequencies, you get harmonics. |
| 11:29.53 | troubled | harmonics just means a repeating pattern right? |
| 11:30.08 | jblack | No, yes. Not really. |
| 11:30.22 | jblack | did you ever watch the wake from two boats cross? |
| 11:30.30 | troubled | or was that when they are in a different octave thats a multiple? |
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| 11:31.07 | jblack | That's when two tones harmonize in a pleasing way. |
| 11:31.36 | jblack | I'm kinda screwing with the terminology at this point to get you to understand, so I'm not being entirely accurate any more. |
| 11:31.46 | jblack | You undestand sine waves, right? |
| 11:31.49 | jblack | And water waves? |
| 11:31.56 | troubled | think so |
| 11:32.15 | troubled | no official training or anything, so not sure if i miss something |
| 11:32.26 | jblack | Ok, did you ever make two waves, and notice that sometimes waves cancel out, sometimes combine to go really high, and sometimes go really low? |
| 11:32.37 | troubled | yes |
| 11:32.47 | jblack | Ok. Well, the same thing happens with soundwaves. |
| 11:33.21 | troubled | harmonics are when they dont conflict then? ie: cancel out? |
| 11:33.24 | jblack | If two boats were very close to each other, going at the same speed, there would be spots where things would cancel out, and there would be no waves. |
| 11:33.54 | jblack | Harmonics are when they're octaves apart, like you thought. |
| 11:34.01 | jblack | "Harmony". |
| 11:34.27 | jblack | any time you get two different frequencies, they'll fall in and out of phase with each other.. |
| 11:35.05 | jblack | I.E. the waves "add together" and make a taller wave, or they "subtract together" and make a really low dip.. But most of the time, they kind of cancel out. |
| 11:35.15 | jblack | And it sounds really nasty and ugly to us. |
| 11:35.43 | jblack | When waves are certain frequencies apart (octave intervals), they sound pleasant. |
| 11:36.09 | jblack | I have electronics and electrial experience, but very little music experience. |
| 11:36.21 | troubled | same to a lesser extent here |
| 11:36.41 | jblack | From what I'm reading real quick, things harmonize if they are twice the freq, three times the freq, and so on. |
| 11:36.47 | jblack | Harmonize, as in sound good. |
| 11:37.01 | jblack | If they're something else, it sounds like shit. |
| 11:37.11 | troubled | well, i get things like 3phase, home electricity, 120v, 240v etc. just not sure about harmonics/octaves/sound |
| 11:37.36 | jblack | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic |
| 11:37.51 | jblack | Anyways, all you need to know about dtmf is that for any digit pressed, 2 sounds are played at once. |
| 11:38.08 | troubled | nod |
| 11:38.15 | jblack | If you can find an old, cheap touchtone phone, you can often get pure tones by pressing two buttons (say 1+2) at once. |
| 11:38.31 | troubled | thanks for the info. human teaching tends to make more sense than html pages |
| 11:39.03 | jblack | The phone 'knows' you want 697 hz, but doesn't know whether you want 1209 or 1336. So it just plays a pure 697hz sine wave |
| 11:39.21 | troubled | this phone doesnt seem to do that :( |
| 11:39.31 | FlatFoot | morning all |
| 11:39.35 | troubled | two or more keys does nothing |
| 11:39.38 | troubled | moin |
| 11:39.50 | jblack | I said cheap, old touchtone phone. |
| 11:40.08 | jblack | anything that uses rfc2833 doesn't play a tone _at all_ |
| 11:40.12 | troubled | well, its cheap and a few years old :) |
| 11:40.19 | troubled | ~abcd |
| 11:40.19 | jblack | It sends a mesasge, saying "He pressed dtmf1" |
| 11:40.26 | FlatFoot | anyone know if mpg123 runs fine on FreeBSD 6.x with 1.4.17 mpg123 used to use up the proc has this been corrected ???? |
| 11:40.33 | jblack | Try other ones. 'specially walmart. |
| 11:40.48 | jblack | preferably something so old, it doesn't have redial. |
| 11:41.16 | jblack | FlatFoot: No idea. why don't you use madplay, or convert your moh to wav. |
| 11:41.43 | jblack | You really don't need more than 20 songs in your moh (unless you're really fucking evil to your customers) anyways, so the space won't hurt, and cut the proc time down to 0 |
| 11:41.46 | FlatFoot | well thats whet i was thinking just gonna remove the deps from the makefile but thought i'd check first |
| 11:41.48 | troubled | ~#asterisk abcd is <reply> The ABCD tones are used in the U.S. military telephone network (AutoVon) amongst other things. A - Flash, N - Flash override priority, C - Priority communication, D - Priority override |
| 11:41.49 | jbot | troubled: okay |
| 11:41.53 | troubled | ~abcd |
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| 11:42.08 | jblack | I was in the Military for six years. |
| 11:42.13 | jblack | Know how many of those phones I saw? |
| 11:42.22 | troubled | i can imagine |
| 11:42.29 | jblack | 1. |
| 11:42.34 | troubled | bah, damn riker and his custom bot changes.... |
| 11:42.36 | jblack | And it was an oddity. |
| 11:42.45 | troubled | mind the spam a sec |
| 11:42.52 | FlatFoot | jblack: ta for the info i shall use madplay instead and yes i am evil to my customers ( 400 songs is about average ) |
| 11:42.54 | troubled | ~abcd is <reply> The ABCD tones are used in the U.S. military telephone network (AutoVon) amongst other things. A - Flash, N - Flash override priority, C - Priority communication, D - Priority override |
| 11:42.55 | jbot | I like to use is <reply> The ABCD tones are used in the U.S. military telephone network (AutoVon) amongst other things. A - Flash, N - Flash override priority, C - Priority communication, D - Priority override when I abcd |
| 11:42.56 | jblack | autovon is still there, but you don't need a special a button. :) |
| 11:43.30 | jblack | FlatFoot: And you still have customers?? Who do you work for? Sears???????? |
| 11:43.32 | troubled | jbot: forget #asterisk abcd |
| 11:43.33 | jbot | troubled: i forgot #asterisk abcd |
| 11:43.40 | troubled | ~factinfo abcd |
| 11:43.40 | jbot | there's no such factoid as abcd, troubled |
| 11:43.57 | FlatFoot | jblack: www.orbital.net ( we don't care ) |
| 11:43.58 | jblack | ~~abcd |
| 11:44.29 | troubled | ~listkeys abcd |
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| 11:44.38 | jblack | If you're gonna put your customers on hold for.... 12 hours, why bother answering the phone?!? |
| 11:44.45 | troubled | ~forget cmd: abcd (.*?) |
| 11:44.45 | jbot | i forgot cmd: abcd (.*?), troubled |
| 11:45.31 | troubled | ~abcd is <reply> The ABCD tones are used in the U.S. military telephone network (AutoVon) amongst other things. A - Flash, N - Flash override priority, C - Priority communication, D - Priority override |
| 11:45.31 | jbot | troubled: okay |
| 11:45.31 | FlatFoot | jblack: thats the idea we want them to email instead |
| 11:45.31 | jblack | Use this format: jbot: abcd is blahblahblah |
| 11:45.33 | jblack | FlatFoot: Let me rephrase. Why bother _having_ a phone |
| 11:45.51 | troubled | ~abcd |
| 11:45.52 | jbot | The ABCD tones are used in the U.S. military telephone network (AutoVon) amongst other things. A - Flash, N - Flash override priority, C - Priority communication, D - Priority override |
| 11:45.56 | troubled | there we go |
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| 11:46.04 | FlatFoot | jblack: so we can ring the wife to make sure dinner is being cooked |
| 11:46.15 | *** join/#asterisk glen2 (n=glen@212.54.184.253) |
| 11:46.20 | glen2 | Hello people. |
| 11:46.32 | troubled | not sure why it didnt take #asterisk abcd though |
| 11:46.50 | glen2 | Is there an Asterisk liveCD or a LiveCD with Asterisk? |
| 11:46.52 | jblack | glen2: Please be smart. I'm begging. |
| 11:46.53 | troubled | bah, and i typod it :/ |
| 11:47.21 | troubled | ~abcd =~ s/N - /B - / |
| 11:47.21 | jbot | OK, troubled |
| 11:47.26 | troubled | ~abcd |
| 11:47.27 | jbot | The ABCD tones are used in the U.S. military telephone network (AutoVon) amongst other things. A - Flash, B - Flash override priority, C - Priority communication, D - Priority override |
| 11:47.27 | jblack | glen2: bah. Go look at asterisk or trixbox (both of which is supported in another channel, listed in the channel) |
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| 11:47.47 | jblack | troubled: If you're going to keep doing that, please do it in private msg to jbot |
| 11:47.58 | troubled | that should be all :) |
| 11:48.00 | tzafrir | glen2, sure there are. Several of them |
| 11:48.13 | jblack | whoosp. s/asterisk/asterisknow |
| 11:48.14 | glen2 | I was looking for personal recomendations. |
| 11:48.28 | jblack | We're unix admins. We think livecds are for wimps. =) |
| 11:48.45 | troubled | tim really needs to tweak that db. the speed sucks badly and im thinking its cause of the old db without index's he probably still has :/ |
| 11:49.03 | glen2 | You talking about the 4x4 two tone dialing system? |
| 11:49.09 | tzafrir | jblack, speak for yourself. A live CD is a great tool for some specific jobs |
| 11:49.37 | troubled | glen2: we were a moment ago. but yes, thats what the abcd was in reference to |
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| 11:53.36 | tzafrir | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Bootable+CDROM |
| 11:53.55 | troubled | isnt that what AsteriskNOW was? |
| 11:53.59 | jblack | fair enough. |
| 11:54.10 | jblack | pardon me. I'm cranky |
| 11:54.28 | troubled | :) |
| 11:54.47 | jblack | Its nearly 7am. I'm going to bed. |
| 11:55.03 | troubled | cya in 8-12hr :) |
| 11:56.46 | tzafrir | AsteriskNow no longer seems to offer a live CD |
| 11:57.12 | tzafrir | A Live CD is a system that does not require installation |
| 11:57.22 | troubled | was tempted to check it out. i seen the screenshots for the html config, looked very nice |
| 11:59.12 | tzafrir | The HTML config is basically the asterisk-gui |
| 11:59.17 | mosty | tzafrir, i see wanpipe no longer needs to patch zaptel 1.4 :) |
| 11:59.34 | troubled | ah, havent checked out the -gui package yet |
| 11:59.51 | tzafrir | BTW: if you grab asterisk-gui from the svn, the only branch that seems to actually be developped right now is branches/asterisknow |
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| 12:00.07 | tzafrir | mostly: nice! 3.3 is out? |
| 12:00.11 | zaur_pronet | Hi all |
| 12:00.17 | troubled | my setup is/will be ultimately managed only by a fai debian setup, so i doubt i will be using it |
| 12:00.39 | mosty | tzafrir, i think they just bumped the third digit in the version string |
| 12:00.46 | tzafrir | 3.2.2 ? |
| 12:00.54 | mosty | yes |
| 12:01.44 | tzafrir | troubled, I'm actually using DebianLive to produce a live CD. It's a nice tool |
| 12:02.11 | troubled | never heard of it. basically automates debuild -> iso/livecd? |
| 12:02.30 | tzafrir | http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org |
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| 12:03.31 | troubled | hmmm neat. definetly save some time |
| 12:03.54 | troubled | although for my systems, i dont believe in livecd's for performance reasons |
| 12:04.18 | troubled | although i suppose it really depends how you configure the system and ram disks |
| 12:04.58 | troubled | i still prefer fai though when it comes to reinstallations and even network bootable liveish utilities |
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| 13:28.36 | zaur_pronet | how to use zapras for remote administration and management |
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| 13:32.18 | RoyK | Microsoft to Force IE7 Update on February 12th http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/01/21/0652248.shtml |
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| 13:36.09 | Mw3 | wow, at least |
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| 13:48.24 | Mw3 | why? i mean why now? because the ie7 rollout? |
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| 13:59.37 | nephfl | hello, I was looking at the teleyapper script, the only problem I have with it for my useses is that it spaces calles by minutes instead of checking number of active calls, is there a similar script that can dial to a certain level? |
| 14:02.43 | nephfl | anyone up this morning? |
| 14:02.52 | J4zen | 15:03, yes i am |
| 14:03.05 | nephfl | any experience with autodialers? |
| 14:03.12 | J4zen | in what context? |
| 14:03.25 | Nugget | yeah, I hang up on them whenever they call. :) |
| 14:03.26 | J4zen | (non-asterisk context) lol |
| 14:03.38 | fiXXXerMet | If I have SIP phones that are using NAT, though are on the same network as the asterisk box, need I specify nat=yes for each phone in sip.conf? |
| 14:03.57 | nephfl | well, I need a dialer script that I can set the number of active calls so that i dont have too many or too few active calls |
| 14:03.58 | J4zen | fiXXXerMet: Not if they are both behind the same NAT |
| 14:04.03 | fiXXXerMet | Great |
| 14:04.44 | J4zen | lol |
| 14:04.55 | J4zen | nephfl: Next-gen phone harrassment? ;) |
| 14:06.52 | nephfl | no, my situation will have a DND list, and be strictly within the law, it will be used for local political calls from a political party. They currently use traditional phone banking, but I think adding an IVR option would increase their effectiveness. |
| 14:07.17 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: Doesn't matter. |
| 14:10.52 | darius_ | \ |
| 14:11.23 | nephfl | I think that is a ligitimate use of the phone system |
| 14:14.17 | J4zen | I suppose so |
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| 14:14.25 | J4zen | unfortunatly though, i don't know of such a script |
| 14:14.52 | nephfl | I think vicidial will do it, but it is much more complicated than I need in a script |
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| 14:16.07 | fiXXXerMet | How much flexibility do I have over the database queries for realtime? Are they predefined somewhere, or can I write custom queries for say sippeers and sipusers? |
| 14:17.42 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: You have complete flexibilty, just like the rest of us. |
| 14:17.44 | fiXXXerMet | I guess that wouldn't even be necessary if I knew what table layouts asterisk expected for the different things that can be stored in a database |
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| 14:30.10 | nephfl | anyone ever use gnudialer? |
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| 14:34.47 | javar | Hi |
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| 14:35.10 | nephfl | hi |
| 14:35.42 | javar | somebody knows if i need some timing dependence for work with queues? |
| 14:35.54 | [TK]D-Fender | javar: No. |
| 14:35.59 | javar | zaptel or ztdummy? |
| 14:36.03 | javar | ok, great |
| 14:36.32 | funxion | anyone know of a reason I would get a sip response 486 back from a phone that is registered and does not have a call up on it? |
| 14:37.06 | [TK]D-Fender | funxion: DND |
| 14:37.14 | funxion | nope |
| 14:37.16 | javar | [TK]D-Fender: But if i want to connect two servers using IAX2 with parameter trunk=yes, i need timing dependence? |
| 14:37.17 | funxion | already checked it |
| 14:37.24 | [TK]D-Fender | javar: Correct |
| 14:37.36 | javar | [TK]D-Fender: i can use for that ztdummy? |
| 14:37.39 | [TK]D-Fender | funxion: Selective call rejection? |
| 14:37.47 | funxion | all calls |
| 14:38.06 | [TK]D-Fender | javar>[TK]D-Fender: i can use for that ztdummy? <- ?? |
| 14:38.25 | [TK]D-Fender | funxion: Possibly improper device setup. |
| 14:38.34 | funxion | that what Im looking at |
| 14:39.12 | javar | [TK]D-Fender: sorry, can i use ztdummy for timing dependence if i want connect two severs using IAX2 with parameter trunk=yes? |
| 14:39.14 | J4zen | [TK]D-Fender: Will you need timing dependence for SIP-trunks? |
| 14:39.14 | [TK]D-Fender | funxion: if they aren't on a call and aren't telling the phone to reject on purpose about the only thing I can thinkk of is maybe they didn't assign the phone a # of calls that reg can support so 0 = reject all. |
| 14:39.27 | J4zen | Curious :) |
| 14:39.30 | [TK]D-Fender | javar: ZTDUMMY = timing source, so yes. |
| 14:39.41 | javar | [TK]D-Fender: many thanks |
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| 14:39.53 | [TK]D-Fender | J4zen: WILL we? Who's to say, do we NOW (1.4)? No. |
| 14:40.12 | J4zen | lol |
| 14:40.16 | J4zen | i love you |
| 14:40.36 | J4zen | Thanks :) |
| 14:41.21 | timverhoeven | I've got a strange issue with a fax machine connected to a TDM400P. On my current production server (zaptel 1.4.2.1) everything is working fine. But on my new server (zaptel 1.4.8) the driver thinks the line is offhook as soon as I plugin the cable to fax machine (even is the faxmachine has no power cable connected). Does anyone know where to look for this ? |
| 14:43.04 | tzafrir | timverhoeven, a phone is generally a passive device. It can close the crcuit without a need for any other power except the power you provide through the FXS |
| 14:43.26 | tzafrir | Does it behave the same with a different phone? |
| 14:44.00 | timverhoeven | tzafrir: no, with a regular phone it works fine, it's only with fax machines (I've tried the 2 that are here in the office) |
| 14:44.45 | timverhoeven | tzafrir: and what really puzzles me is that the the old serve does not have that behaviour |
| 14:45.51 | DarKnesS_WolF | another * installation :-) |
| 14:45.54 | DarKnesS_WolF | tzafrir: hello ;-) |
| 14:46.05 | DarKnesS_WolF | timverhoeven: very strange and there is no tone in the fax ? |
| 14:46.32 | timverhoeven | DarKnesS_WolF: not that I can hear |
| 14:46.51 | DarKnesS_WolF | and phones workls fine ? |
| 14:47.00 | DarKnesS_WolF | on the same module. |
| 14:47.16 | timverhoeven | DarKnesS_WolF: yes |
| 14:47.44 | DarKnesS_WolF | timverhoeven: u did and upgrade ? |
| 14:47.49 | DarKnesS_WolF | or it is a new machine ? |
| 14:48.50 | timverhoeven | its a new machine |
| 14:49.35 | lmadsen | timverhoeven: have you tried the same version of the zaptel driver as the old system? |
| 14:49.41 | lmadsen | perhaps you've found a bug? |
| 14:49.48 | DarKnesS_WolF | timverhoeven: bug may be |
| 14:50.11 | DarKnesS_WolF | lmadsen: yes ur right but very very strange .. i mean why fax ? |
| 14:50.12 | timverhoeven | lmadsen: not yet, It's a idea. |
| 14:50.41 | lmadsen | DarKnesS_WolF: well, it could just be that particular device does something weird with the circuit... ? |
| 14:51.11 | DarKnesS_WolF | lmadsen: mmmm may be i hope i don't face sucj problems now :-) i'm already at client :P |
| 14:51.14 | timverhoeven | lmadsen: I see it with 2 different fax machines |
| 14:51.15 | DarKnesS_WolF | installing new * |
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| 14:51.35 | lmadsen | timverhoeven: but not the same brand / type of fax right? |
| 14:51.52 | lmadsen | because that would essentially prove nothing :) |
| 14:52.02 | timverhoeven | lmadsen: no, one is a brother, the other is a ricoh |
| 14:52.08 | lmadsen | gotcha |
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| 14:52.33 | lmadsen | well, I'd try the version of the zaptel driver that was working on the other machine and see if that's the issue... if it does the same thing, then I'm going to say configuration issue... ? |
| 14:53.11 | timverhoeven | lmadsen: ok, I'll have a go with that. |
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| 14:53.17 | lmadsen | good luck! |
| 14:53.23 | timverhoeven | tx :-) |
| 14:53.31 | JunK-Y | mr madsen! |
| 14:53.38 | lmadsen | mr patry! |
| 14:53.46 | lmadsen | it360 is sooooooooooon-ish |
| 14:54.12 | lmadsen | timverhoeven: I'm reading your text with the voice of Goldmember in my head :) |
| 14:54.20 | JunK-Y | yep tep, it360 :) |
| 14:54.28 | lmadsen | JunK-Y: you're coming right? |
| 14:54.32 | JunK-Y | yes |
| 14:54.35 | lmadsen | sweet |
| 14:54.39 | lmadsen | too bad file is not :( |
| 14:54.42 | JunK-Y | i will probably speak too. |
| 14:54.55 | JunK-Y | ha hes not ? he said he didnt know |
| 14:55.05 | lmadsen | ya, I'm speaking -- need to write a presentation one day :) |
| 14:55.20 | lmadsen | well, Digium is sending 3 people, and he wasn't one of them... but maybe he can sneak his way in somehow |
| 14:55.23 | Qwell | lmadsen: being prepared is overrated |
| 14:55.32 | lmadsen | Qwell: I usually write the presentation about a day or two before |
| 14:55.40 | JunK-Y | lmadsen: ive heard, mark,kevin and jared, right? |
| 14:55.43 | lmadsen | yep |
| 14:55.49 | JunK-Y | great |
| 14:56.18 | DarKnesS_WolF | what is it360? |
| 14:56.54 | JunK-Y | DarKnesS_WolF: it360.ca |
| 14:57.03 | lmadsen | used to be Linuxworld/NetworkWorld in Toronto |
| 14:57.05 | lmadsen | but got renamed |
| 14:57.11 | lmadsen | I think because it is more diverse now |
| 14:57.19 | DarKnesS_WolF | dudes ur having much fun ! voip still banned in egypt :-s |
| 14:57.21 | lmadsen | there is an asterisk conference embedded inside it360 |
| 14:57.33 | RoyK | DarKnesS_WolF: it is_ |
| 14:57.35 | DarKnesS_WolF | u can just use it in the same building but never make long distance calls ;-) |
| 14:57.39 | RoyK | ? |
| 14:57.39 | DarKnesS_WolF | RoyK: yep |
| 14:57.47 | RoyK | that's bad... |
| 14:57.55 | DarKnesS_WolF | they said soon it will over |
| 14:57.58 | DarKnesS_WolF | but this been for like 2 years |
| 14:58.06 | DarKnesS_WolF | guys GPS is banned in egypt :D |
| 14:58.07 | DarKnesS_WolF | lol |
| 14:58.16 | lmadsen | any attempt to circumvent the phone system in a lot of countries is illegal because the gov't typically owns those networks and make lots of money off them |
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| 14:59.03 | DarKnesS_WolF | lmadsen: yes true but teclom egypt i think got sold like 1 year ago now there will be some other provider |
| 14:59.31 | lmadsen | DarKnesS_WolF: ah gotcha, sounds like you're getting closer to having competition and thus, allowed to use voip :) |
| 14:59.36 | DarKnesS_WolF | mm buy teh way the guy that did the jengel code in asterisk what is his nickname ? |
| 14:59.43 | lmadsen | jengel? |
| 14:59.45 | lmadsen | jingle? |
| 14:59.49 | DarKnesS_WolF | lmadsen: seems soo :-) |
| 14:59.50 | DarKnesS_WolF | yep |
| 14:59.51 | RoyK | jungle |
| 14:59.53 | lmadsen | I think that was Matt O'Gorman |
| 14:59.57 | DarKnesS_WolF | the gtalk thing |
| 15:00.06 | lmadsen | jenga! |
| 15:01.12 | DarKnesS_WolF | hehe |
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| 15:02.23 | drmessano | The jabber stuff is sweet |
| 15:02.29 | drmessano | Wish JabberRecv was implemented |
| 15:02.37 | drmessano | But the rest is enough to play with for now |
| 15:02.44 | DarKnesS_WolF | the only thing that is not cool is ulaw thing |
| 15:02.50 | DarKnesS_WolF | if it g729 or g726 |
| 15:02.55 | DarKnesS_WolF | will not effect bandwidth |
| 15:03.02 | drmessano | Tell Google |
| 15:03.20 | DarKnesS_WolF | drmessano: nah i don't talk to google :P |
| 15:03.37 | drmessano | Well, I believe thats why its ulaw |
| 15:03.53 | jameswf | so do we use zap 1.4 to test chan_zap on 1,6 or did i miss a package |
| 15:04.06 | drmessano | I think thats what russell said |
| 15:04.31 | DarKnesS_WolF | jameswf: huh ? |
| 15:04.31 | drmessano | I think thats what russell said.. in regard to 1.6 + Zaptel |
| 15:05.20 | jameswf | I have only pulled it in vm but I am going to have some of our highly trained test monkeys put it on a real box today |
| 15:05.44 | awk | 1.4.17.7 is stable |
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| 15:13.57 | FlatFoot | rehash |
| 15:14.04 | FlatFoot | oops wrong screen |
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| 15:30.21 | timverhoeven | ok, I'm back. I've installed the 1.4.2.1 version of zaptel and the new machine still has the same problem. I've also compared on the relevant configfiles and they look the same. I'm a bit lost. Could it be a hardware problem ? |
| 15:31.01 | [TK]D-Fender | timverhoeven: Sure you plugged in the MOLEX on both systems? |
| 15:31.43 | timverhoeven | I think so, I'll need to double check. But since normal phones are working I'm guessing it is. |
| 15:34.50 | jameswf | I just installed asterisk now what |
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| 15:36.13 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf: You'll never let it just die will you? |
| 15:36.17 | jameswf | and when i say install it was a package I didnt compile.... |
| 15:36.41 | jameswf | I like to beat dead horses untill they are glue :) |
| 15:37.08 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf: hair-"trigger" temper you have there... |
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| 15:37.55 | jameswf | I dont actually get mad, I mean I use too but now I take pills tat prevent it :) |
| 15:38.02 | bsdwarrior | morning all, do you see anything wrong with this syntax? exten => s,n,Set(QUEUE_PRIO=${MATH(${QUEUE_PRIO}+1,int)}) |
| 15:38.05 | jameswf | *that |
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| 15:51.21 | cjk | hi, after using sox to convert my file to gsm it sounds very slow. any idea what i can change? |
| 15:51.41 | Qwell | cjk: don't use gcc 4.2 |
| 15:51.54 | Qwell | assuming you mean playing the gsm file with asterisk |
| 15:52.03 | cjk | Qwell, or vlc |
| 15:52.22 | Qwell | then no idea. sounds like you got the bitrate wrong |
| 15:53.22 | bsdwarrior | I want each call to have a unique QUEUE_PRIO before its put in the queue. any suggestions? |
| 15:53.58 | cjk | Qwell, well the bitrate of my file is 22050 |
| 15:54.05 | cjk | so i need to convert to 8000? |
| 15:54.08 | Qwell | yes |
| 15:54.53 | cjk | 22050 cant be devided through 8000 |
| 15:55.06 | cjk | because if i change to 11025 its fine in vlc |
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| 15:58.23 | [TK]D-Fender | bsdwarrior: is that a global variable? |
| 15:58.46 | [TK]D-Fender | bsdwarrior: And you don't need MATH for basic operations go read up on Asterisk Expressions again. |
| 15:59.40 | fiXXXerMet | For the localnet option, can I simply specify 192.168.0.0 to mean "all of 192.168.0.0-254", or do I need to use the notation for that? |
| 15:59.48 | fiXXXerMet | Also, is the list comma separated or what? |
| 16:00.08 | bsdwarrior | tkd-fender its not a global variable |
| 16:00.49 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: You have to use normal CIDR notations. |
| 16:01.11 | [TK]D-Fender | bsdwarrior: then I gess it'll reset every time now won't it... |
| 16:01.36 | bsdwarrior | tkd-fender, good point, im changing this around |
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| 16:04.42 | fiXXXerMet | Another question. If I'm using dynamic realtime for sipusers and sippeers, where do I specify the [general] options? In the database or can I still keep it in the flat file? |
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| 16:09.15 | jmesquita | Hi guys, how do I configure Zapata with EM?? |
| 16:09.40 | jmesquita | I don't quite get the E&M configuration on zaptel.conf and zapata.conf with the TDM2400 |
| 16:10.30 | bsdwarrior | tkd-fender im closed working on the increment |
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| 16:11.32 | bsdwarrior | the global var is lastprio which works, then i try doing this. exten => 7,n,SetVar(lastprio=QUEUE_PRIO) |
| 16:11.43 | bsdwarrior | to keep track of the increment |
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| 16:13.26 | Maxous | Morning All |
| 16:13.53 | Maxous | ~help |
| 16:14.00 | Maxous | ~itsp |
| 16:14.01 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 16:14.20 | ManxPower | jmesquita: I don't think the TDM2400 supports E&M |
| 16:15.14 | jmesquita | ManxPower: I am not familiar with E&M, is it a third kind of port? |
| 16:15.39 | jmesquita | ManxPower: I mean, does the signaling work on an FXO card or on FXS card or on none of them? |
| 16:15.45 | Maxous | ~itsp-us |
| 16:15.54 | Maxous | ~itsplist-us |
| 16:15.54 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, or http://www.jnctn.com, or http://www.bandwidth.com |
| 16:16.09 | bsdwarrior | updating the global var lastprio doesnt seem to work. exten => 7,n,SetVar(lastprio=${QUEUE_PRIO}) |
| 16:16.50 | jmesquita | ManxPower: I see the em and em_wink signaling on the zapata.conf but don't know which card to make it work with |
| 16:17.37 | [TK]D-Fender | bsdwarrior: ask yourself what its updating FROM. |
| 16:19.07 | bsdwarrior | tkd--fender, I got it. ,g to set the global variable. Thanks man. |
| 16:19.22 | jameswf | wm_wink is kinda crap |
| 16:19.34 | jameswf | *em |
| 16:20.05 | bsdwarrior | tkd-fender one more question, im setting QUEUE_PRIO for each call im placing in the queue. When the calls get answered it should answer them by the prority and not the hold time right? |
| 16:20.42 | jmesquita | jameswf: But with which card type would I use any of those signalings? |
| 16:20.45 | SwK | teliax respected?!? |
| 16:20.56 | jameswf | all zaptel cards can do it |
| 16:20.59 | [TK]D-Fender | SwK: By most, yes |
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| 16:21.04 | ManxPower | SwK: *I* respect Teliax |
| 16:21.06 | SwK | hahahaha |
| 16:21.12 | SwK | sorry |
| 16:21.27 | ManxPower | jmesquita: Do you have a line that uses E&M? |
| 16:21.52 | jmesquita | ManxPower: Indeed |
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| 16:22.14 | ManxPower | jmesquita: E&M signaling can be on T-1/E-1 and on analog. In the USA there are very few analog E&M lines. |
| 16:22.29 | jmesquita | jameswf: But how on Earth would I configure zaptel.conf then? |
| 16:22.32 | ManxPower | So any Digium T-1/E-1 card will support E&M |
| 16:22.33 | jmesquita | ManxPower: Mine is analog |
| 16:22.49 | jmesquita | ManxPower: First time I saw an E&M analog line here too |
| 16:22.49 | SwK | jmesquita, how many E&M trunks do you have? |
| 16:22.56 | jmesquita | SwK: 12 |
| 16:22.56 | ManxPower | jmesquita: then there is no Digium card compatible with your line. |
| 16:23.06 | jmesquita | ManxPower: Shoot! |
| 16:23.15 | ManxPower | I strongly doubt a Zaptel compatible card from any other company would work. |
| 16:23.24 | SwK | jmesquita, sure there is... get a sinle port T1 card and put a TA 750 or the like on it |
| 16:23.29 | Qwell | ~logs |
| 16:23.30 | jbot | i guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 16:23.59 | jmesquita | SwK: A TA 750? |
| 16:24.06 | SwK | and yes you can put E&M on a channel bank and run that into a Digium, Sangoma, Et Al |
| 16:24.19 | SwK | jmesquita, its a channel bank... you just need to get one with FXO ports in it |
| 16:24.42 | joetester | Question... does anyone have any info, or clue, on the use of func_odbc from AGI? Does func_odbc have to be used from outside the AGI, and the information passed? |
| 16:24.49 | jmesquita | SwK: Shoot, I already have a TDM2400 setup for this customer |
| 16:25.00 | jmesquita | SwK: Hard to get adtrans here in this country |
| 16:25.20 | SwK | jmesquita, any other channel bank should work |
| 16:25.52 | jmesquita | SwK: Any with E&M on it! :) |
| 16:25.57 | jmesquita | E&M support |
| 16:26.05 | jameswf | I would recoment trashing em_w if possible and going loop |
| 16:26.11 | SwK | question... why is asterlink not listed in the itsp list? is it because Tony and BKW work mainly on FS now even tho tony is still the #3 all time kharma person on the bug tracker? |
| 16:26.27 | SwK | jameswf, you dont get the same features |
| 16:26.50 | SwK | (not trying to stir up shit just wondering) |
| 16:26.53 | jameswf | umm you get more |
| 16:27.01 | SwK | jameswf, no you dont |
| 16:27.16 | jameswf | wink looses caller id and uh |
| 16:27.20 | ManxPower | Actually, I suggest moving from e&M to GROUNDSTART |
| 16:27.23 | jmesquita | jameswf: loop would send me digits? |
| 16:27.32 | SwK | wink does not ooose caller ID |
| 16:27.37 | jameswf | you have analog did? |
| 16:27.40 | ManxPower | That would be as close to E&M from the standpoint of features |
| 16:27.41 | jameswf | thats rare |
| 16:27.58 | jmesquita | jameswf: Yes, I do! ThatÅ› the whole problem |
| 16:28.11 | jmesquita | jameswf: I need to do routing based o DID numbers on analog lines |
| 16:28.13 | SwK | and DIDs dont work over loopstart |
| 16:28.18 | jameswf | jmesquita: you likely need to set an io control in the card to use ADID |
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| 16:28.59 | jameswf | usualy analog cards talk in loop reguardless of zapata settings so you have to set the card for that |
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| 16:29.18 | jmesquita | jameswf: How on EARTH would I do that? LOL |
| 16:29.38 | jameswf | usualy in the driver sourc... is there a digium person here |
| 16:29.48 | mattfletcher | hello, i'm having problems with a tdm400. it is occasionally not picking up calls when i left the receiver, and not hanging them up when i clear down. anyone got any ideas of settings that i could tweak in asterisk? it's a uk based system if that makes a diffrerence. |
| 16:29.49 | ManxPower | jmesquita: I'm sure if you offered enough money to Digium they would add e&M to analog |
| 16:30.16 | jmesquita | ManxPower: But it would be implemented on top of FXS cards, right? |
| 16:30.21 | jameswf | On our cards we set a couple bits in the driver file and it switches to ADID mode |
| 16:30.42 | jmesquita | jameswf: Can you send me a patch file for that? |
| 16:30.47 | jameswf | I am sure theirs does the same |
| 16:30.52 | ManxPower | jmesquita: I don't know, but it would not matter to you. |
| 16:30.53 | fiXXXerMet | Wondering if anyone is using mysql realtime for sippeers and sipusers that I can bug in PM for a little bit? |
| 16:30.57 | jmesquita | jameswf: And you do that with groundstart, right? |
| 16:31.06 | JunK-Y | ive noticed sometime, ast_write() is called with a NULL frame, could it be cause c1 in ast_channel_bridge is IAX2/mercure-512<MASQ> ? |
| 16:31.11 | JunK-Y | since my c1 is MASQ |
| 16:31.41 | jameswf | I work for Rhino I dont lnow the digium file structure contact their support and tell them what you have |
| 16:31.46 | jameswf | *know |
| 16:32.26 | bkw_ | jameswf: hey guy |
| 16:32.27 | jmesquita | jameswf: Ah! I thought you were doing that on the Digium card |
| 16:32.33 | jmesquita | jameswf: Sorry about that |
| 16:32.35 | bkw_ | jameswf: you and I have talked on the phone I think |
| 16:32.44 | ManxPower | jameswf: I'm a fan of Adtran, but I must say Rhino impressed me by releasing a Zaptel compat card. |
| 16:32.46 | Qwell | jameswf: you! |
| 16:32.51 | Qwell | f = finstrom? |
| 16:33.01 | jameswf | good chance yes thats the F |
| 16:33.11 | Qwell | I closed your bug ;/ see comment |
| 16:34.29 | bsdwarrior | tkd-fender I Got this working, thanks again |
| 16:35.47 | jameswf | Qwell: as i told mvanbaak it wasnt a huge deal I just know how people are and I could see lots of grief from folks if the stuff isnt right in their face |
| 16:36.03 | bkw_ | jameswf: check your pm |
| 16:36.14 | Qwell | the big "WARNING WARNING WARNING" should be enough for non trixbox users |
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| 16:36.28 | bkw_ | Qwell: in an ideal world |
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| 16:38.13 | bkw_ | Qwell: drink much lately? |
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| 16:38.26 | Qwell | bkw_: only once since 2006 |
| 16:38.38 | Qwell | I went all of 2007 |
| 16:38.39 | jameswf | and havent stopped lol |
| 16:39.13 | outtolunc | you shoulod ~go more often~ ... (what we talk'n bout?) |
| 16:39.21 | bkw_ | poor guy threw up over the 101 overpass in SFO |
| 16:39.26 | Qwell | \o/ |
| 16:39.52 | bkw_ | then fell flat on his back in the middle of the road he slipped off the curb :P |
| 16:40.10 | bkw_ | hehe |
| 16:40.24 | bkw_ | Qwell: then you were acting up at the pancake house... with the cops in there |
| 16:40.30 | bkw_ | good times I say |
| 16:40.32 | bkw_ | good time |
| 16:40.49 | SwK | outtolunc, I think someone has pix of _vile for that site |
| 16:41.17 | joetester | Question... does anyone have any info, or clue, on the use of func_odbc from AGI? Does func_odbc have to be used from outside the AGI, and the information passed? |
| 16:41.52 | mattfletcher | what's happened to this room? it used to be great, now its all either off topic, or too technobabble |
| 16:42.11 | outtolunc | i would assume the vars you want to use must be passed in, or gathered and used while inside from another source |
| 16:42.19 | SwK | joetester, why us func_odbc in the AGI... just use the native DB stuff from you AGI programs language and then pass anything back to a chan var if you need it on the asterisk side |
| 16:42.51 | joetester | It's not the way the application works... can't really change that. |
| 16:43.08 | SwK | i would curse a programmer then |
| 16:43.19 | jameswf | mattfletcher: lawn gnomes |
| 16:43.44 | SwK | mattfletcher, this room is always offtopic |
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| 16:46.55 | joetester | outtolunc I guess I could run the func_odbc queries before and after the AGI... It's not easy but it would work... I think... |
| 16:46.58 | jameswf | new topic.... patriots or giants |
| 16:47.17 | SwK | patriots |
| 16:47.20 | russellb | basically, !patriots |
| 16:47.24 | russellb | i don't want those bitches to win |
| 16:47.36 | ManxPower | Giants can be patriots, so can midgets. |
| 16:48.10 | jameswf | When I am rich I will have my own midget |
| 16:48.32 | russellb | jameswf: you might want to keep that little tidbit to yourself |
| 16:48.45 | DarKnesS_WolF | mmmm mandriva dosn't love zaptel :-s |
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| 16:50.11 | SwK | anyone know the early spreads on the bowl? |
| 16:52.22 | jameswf | New England -13 NY Giants |
| 16:52.42 | jameswf | I am sure thats playing it safe... |
| 16:52.59 | mattfletcher | i'm having problems with a tdm400. it is occasionally not picking up calls when i left the receiver, and not hanging them up when i clear down. anyone got any ideas of settings that i could tweak in asterisk? it's a uk based system if that makes a diffrerence. |
| 16:53.14 | jameswf | I think the game like last night will be within 3 |
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| 16:58.53 | russellb | mattfletcher: please contact support@digium.com, they can help you out |
| 16:59.09 | bsdwarrior | using the manager api, action: Command - will this run anything I.E. show queue myqueue ? |
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| 16:59.47 | outtolunc | if the manager user has write 'command' privs |
| 17:02.11 | troubled | russellb: hey there. you wouldnt happen to know by chance how I would go about tracking down a reg # for my g729a from a while back would you? |
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| 17:02.52 | russellb | troubled: no idea |
| 17:03.27 | troubled | well, thanks anyways |
| 17:03.32 | DarKnesS_WolF | i'm still having problems with zaptel and mandriva2008 |
| 17:05.05 | UnixDog | 1.2 or 1.4 |
| 17:05.14 | UnixDog | it helps to know this |
| 17:05.23 | jameswf | the trick is dont use mandriva :) |
| 17:05.33 | troubled | heh |
| 17:05.37 | UnixDog | the trick is dont use linux |
| 17:06.04 | Qwell | yeah, then his zaptel problems will go away entire, because he won't be using zaptel |
| 17:06.10 | troubled | curious, how does something like windows handle when a zaptel is installed? |
| 17:06.11 | jameswf | lol |
| 17:06.21 | UnixDog | we have zaptel on bsd |
| 17:06.24 | troubled | it actually ask you for a driver? |
| 17:06.27 | UnixDog | and it works great |
| 17:06.47 | Qwell | troubled: asterisk (and zaptel) don't run on windows, so... |
| 17:06.56 | jameswf | thwart 20 years of progress use bsd cause frankly linux has developed way to much... |
| 17:06.59 | UnixDog | and I almost have 1.6 now ported and patched |
| 17:07.21 | UnixDog | i did not see anyone say windows |
| 17:07.22 | troubled | Qwell: ya, but does windows actually detect it and ask for a driver like all normal pci devs? |
| 17:07.36 | Qwell | troubled: does windows actually detect any hardware? ;) |
| 17:07.41 | troubled | ;) |
| 17:07.56 | jameswf | Someone loaded one of our cards in windows and it came up as some odd ethernet adapter with no drivers |
| 17:08.02 | mort_gib | Afternoon |
| 17:08.07 | Qwell | jameswf: most T1 cards would, I imagine |
| 17:08.17 | troubled | also, am i right in guessing that 1.2 doesnt support the Blacklist() app? |
| 17:08.19 | mort_gib | Need a bit of help on a Sangoma A500 card |
| 17:08.21 | file | yeah... it'll do that ^_^ |
| 17:08.27 | UnixDog | if you run astwerisk on MS you have to rename it GASTERISK as it will become bloated fast |
| 17:08.29 | drmessano | Windows does a good job of booting a PC |
| 17:08.40 | UnixDog | and then you will need a bypass |
| 17:08.54 | drmessano | AKERISKWIN |
| 17:09.00 | drmessano | and AKERISKWIN64 |
| 17:10.11 | bsdwarrior | outtolunc - thanks |
| 17:10.17 | BiGrAr | mort_gib, what's your question? |
| 17:10.51 | drmessano | AKERISKWIN "The Openly Crashed Telephonic Platypus" |
| 17:11.01 | Qwell | drmessano: you fail |
| 17:11.09 | drmessano | lol |
| 17:11.26 | drmessano | "Of course it's stable, it runs on Cygwin.. thats like Windows PLUS Linux" |
| 17:11.29 | mort_gib | wanrouter hwprobe shows card details, from that Detail, how do I see what is enabled?? |
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| 17:12.03 | mort_gib | -Yes, I know what I paid for, but I'm not next to the machine |
| 17:12.11 | UnixDog | that was nice |
| 17:12.34 | UnixDog | I just did a remote install of asterisk on a dual 1.1 with 2 gig of ram |
| 17:12.40 | bsdwarrior | the manager page for command is a bit vague. do I send Action: command mycommand? |
| 17:12.47 | UnixDog | and building from poprts took less then 30 min |
| 17:12.57 | UnixDog | popts/ports |
| 17:14.04 | jameswf | KDE 4 can run on windows. I imagine that will help actualy getting rid of explorer |
| 17:14.14 | drmessano | REALLY? |
| 17:14.20 | UnixDog | now back to finishing 1.6 port |
| 17:14.32 | davevg-btwtech | bsdwarrior, Action: Command\nCommand: show queues |
| 17:14.40 | BiGrAr | mort_gib, what do you mean what is enabled? did you follow the installation instructions? do you have any digium cards installed as well? |
| 17:14.41 | jameswf | thats what I read dont actualy own a windoze box to |
| 17:14.48 | outtolunc | it's 'action: commandr\r\ncommand: <thecommand>\r\n\r\n |
| 17:15.01 | outtolunc | oops i'm slow |
| 17:15.51 | mort_gib | BiGrAr: No digium so far, I followed instructions, the source that came with the card created a module that wouldn't load, downloaded latest version of wanpipe, that worked |
| 17:16.14 | drmessano | wow |
| 17:16.19 | bsdwarrior | http://pastebin.com/d53eae9e2 anything wrong with this ? |
| 17:16.22 | mort_gib | -But running /usr/sbin/wancfg_zaptel no cards are found! |
| 17:16.26 | drmessano | I am gonna test this later |
| 17:16.35 | bsdwarrior | it says Message: Missing action in request |
| 17:16.56 | troubled | test what? |
| 17:17.02 | davevg-btwtech | bsdwarrior, you put an extra carraige return in the Action line |
| 17:17.05 | drmessano | KDE on WIndows |
| 17:17.15 | troubled | ah |
| 17:17.27 | drmessano | KXP is gonna rock you |
| 17:17.31 | troubled | i assume it just uses kde.exe for Shell= ? |
| 17:17.35 | drmessano | Dunno |
| 17:17.38 | BiGrAr | mort_gib, did you try ztcfg and see if that shows any cards? |
| 17:17.41 | drmessano | Have some docs here, need to read |
| 17:17.50 | *** join/#asterisk SuD (n=alex@83.230.174.72) |
| 17:17.55 | drmessano | Then on to KAsteriskWin32 |
| 17:18.02 | drmessano | Quell: You love it |
| 17:18.05 | drmessano | Qwell: You love it |
| 17:18.15 | mort_gib | ztcfg don't show any cards |
| 17:18.43 | mort_gib | I tried to recompile after installing wanpipe, and it identified the card as a A200 card (strange) |
| 17:18.44 | SuD | hi, i have an office where incoming calls go to phone 1. But sometimes user 1 has left and I want user 2 to be able to transfer the call from 1 to 2 while it is still ringing! |
| 17:19.20 | SuD | that is, user 2 types a code on his phone, gets the call and phone 1 stops ringing |
| 17:19.46 | jer | see the Pickup app |
| 17:20.04 | SuD | i'll see, thanks |
| 17:20.24 | jer | np |
| 17:22.23 | drmessano | We hired 4 new salespeople at work.. Receptionist is out.. SO I had to reconfig the extensions on the 125 yr old Electra Elite at work |
| 17:22.30 | drmessano | THANK YOU Asterisk devs |
| 17:22.34 | troubled | curious, if zapateller can fake a telemarketers system into thinking the system is out of service, can it also be used to trick another asterisk into thinking the line is gone as well? |
| 17:22.37 | drmessano | THANK YOU for making life suck less |
| 17:23.08 | mort_gib | I didn't change anything in /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 17:23.56 | fiXXXerMet | I have * setup to use dynamic realtime with mysql for sippeers and sippusers. I have all of them in the database, but when I do a sip show peers, it shows 0? |
| 17:24.13 | fiXXXerMet | 'realtime mysql status' shows that it is connected to the mysql server |
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| 17:28.53 | BiGrAr | mort_gib, you have to follow the instructions to a t... when you ran the wanpipe setup, did everything compile ok? |
| 17:29.07 | fiXXXerMet | I did 'sip show peer kjohnson load' and now that user shows up, but it's weird because 'Realtime peer' says no |
| 17:29.34 | mort_gib | Yes, I mailed Sangoma support, and they told me I have to use a different version of wanpipe (downloading now) |
| 17:33.26 | jameswf | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-kass_bd_20jan20,0,1923633.story?page=2&coll=chi_tab01_layout <lmao |
| 17:34.34 | jameswf | s/page=2/page=1/ |
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| 17:39.48 | skrusty | does anyone know how i can send traffic to a specific peer through a specific ip on the box * is running on? |
| 17:40.10 | hmmhesays | yeah you have to have your route table set right on your linux box |
| 17:40.26 | defswork | skrusty: iptables packet marks and ip rules |
| 17:40.40 | x86 | is it possible with ZapBarge to actually start talking to the spied-on channel? |
| 17:40.44 | skrusty | but how does * know which ip to send out via? |
| 17:40.44 | ManxPower | troubled: zapatateller will send the telco tones to indicate the number is not in service. Telemarketers do not always honour those tones. |
| 17:40.50 | hmmhesays | x86: whisper mode? |
| 17:40.58 | hmmhesays | skrusty: your routing table |
| 17:40.59 | x86 | hmmhesays: yeah, how do i do that? |
| 17:41.08 | defswork | SkramX: * doesn't know - nor need to |
| 17:41.13 | defswork | skrusty: even |
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| 17:41.54 | hmmhesays | x86: try using chanspy instead of zapbarge |
| 17:41.56 | skrusty | ah, i think i see where you misunderstand me. I need to send just one or two peers out via a specific IP |
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| 17:42.17 | jameswf | whisper paging is availible in 1.4.x I would find that kinda creepy.... your talking and a voice comes on that says killl. |
| 17:42.32 | hmmhesays | jameswf: I dont' see that on zapbarge |
| 17:42.42 | defswork | skrusty: if it's a single fixed host you can do ip ruleadd to 1.2.3.4 table routing_table |
| 17:42.57 | hmmhesays | or network or subnet |
| 17:43.09 | defswork | skrusty: and then ip route add default dev eth2 table routing_table |
| 17:43.27 | troubled | ManxPower: i figured that. just curious if asterisk can be fooled by its own medicine |
| 17:43.49 | defswork | skrusty: I have a well complicated multi-nic firewall and use packet marks to select the routes to use |
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| 17:43.59 | skrusty | hmm |
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| 17:44.03 | hmmhesays | anyone use instant messaging on polycom ip 601's? |
| 17:44.20 | ZPertee | can anyone help me think up of a way to have a phone ring if there is a new voicemail for an extension? basically what I want to to do is if ext. 10 has a new voicemail then asterisk dials ext. 10. but once there is no new messages have asterisk hang up. |
| 17:44.21 | bsdwarrior | with the manager, how can I see if a sip user is a - not paused, and b - not on a call ? |
| 17:44.31 | skrusty | i was hoping there was a simple config option that setup the outbound IP to use for a peer |
| 17:44.36 | mattchis | Does anyone here use those crappy Azatel phones? |
| 17:44.44 | jameswf | x86: http://www.the-asterisk-book.com/unstable/applikationen-chanspy.html |
| 17:44.56 | drmessano | jameswf: Is whisper paging louder than "the voices"? |
| 17:45.15 | drmessano | "The voices" are pretty loud.. AND NOW THEYRE YELLING.. STOP STOP |
| 17:45.28 | defswork | skrusty: there is - as I explained - just two commands |
| 17:45.46 | jameswf | I havent seen it in action I have played with russels proof of concept ( res_monkeys i think it was) |
| 17:45.56 | mattchis | I need to find out what the default username Azatel uses for the web interface. |
| 17:46.19 | drmessano | lol |
| 17:49.30 | jameswf | in the "special ed voice start singing my bologna has a first name..... see if the agent can hold a straight face on the call |
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| 17:51.45 | UnixDog | yes we hae 1.6 on bsd |
| 17:51.51 | UnixDog | time to submit the port |
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| 18:07.14 | UnixDog | hey anthm |
| 18:07.19 | UnixDog | long time no see |
| 18:10.05 | x86 | what's the difference between a polycom ip501 and ip301, in terms of NTP connectivity? |
| 18:10.41 | x86 | I've got an old IP501 that talks NTP to my router just fine no problems, but then I've got this IP301 fresh out of the box that won't sync NTP to my router at all |
| 18:10.59 | x86 | it thinks that the time is Dec 31 6:02pm |
| 18:11.11 | x86 | any way to debugger this? |
| 18:11.20 | drmessano | Maybe it uses SNTP |
| 18:11.27 | x86 | actually, I've got an old IP301 that wont sync NTP either |
| 18:11.38 | x86 | any way to make it use regular NTP ? |
| 18:11.44 | drmessano | No clue |
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| 18:14.33 | fedya | anyone ever use ASTassistant? |
| 18:17.31 | UnixDog | x86, what firmware you running on it |
| 18:20.34 | x86 | 2.0.1.0291 |
| 18:20.44 | x86 | that's the sip firmware version |
| 18:21.09 | x86 | man this thing takes like 10 minutes to reboot too wtf |
| 18:21.22 | fedya | downgrade |
| 18:21.25 | fedya | polycoms? |
| 18:21.31 | fedya | i went back to 1.6.6 |
| 18:21.36 | fedya | it's a bug in the firmware |
| 18:21.42 | x86 | what is? |
| 18:21.45 | x86 | the NTP stuff? |
| 18:21.54 | fedya | the rebooting so slow part |
| 18:21.58 | x86 | ah |
| 18:22.19 | x86 | i've got 1.6.7 |
| 18:22.39 | x86 | will that work? |
| 18:22.58 | fedya | probably |
| 18:23.33 | fedya | i went back to 1.6.7, but as far as i know that bug is only in the newest firmware and polycom is aware of it, but for some reason its been at least a month or two and they still havent released a fix |
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| 18:23.56 | x86 | yeah i'm not running anything close to the newest |
| 18:24.06 | x86 | looks like 2.2.something is out |
| 18:24.10 | x86 | i'm running 2.0.1 |
| 18:24.17 | [TK]D-Fender | x86: 3.0 is out... |
| 18:24.37 | [TK]D-Fender | x86: I'm up to 2.2.0 at home with an IP 301 thats seen jsut about every version out... |
| 18:25.17 | hmmhesays | [TK]D-Fender: bah! |
| 18:27.50 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: does it support standard NTP and not just SNTP? |
| 18:28.01 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: also, does it boot faster than 10 minutes? |
| 18:28.22 | [TK]D-Fender | x86: about 2min last I checked |
| 18:28.38 | [TK]D-Fender | x86: mine work off pool.ntp.org |
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| 18:29.40 | x86 | i'm trying to use both my internal cisco router, as well as tick.ucla.edu... both have ended in failure |
| 18:29.53 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: perhaps you could share 2.2.0? |
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| 18:31.24 | [TK]D-Fender | hrmm..... |
| 18:33.19 | [TK]D-Fender | I seem to have missed 2.2.2 along the way |
| 18:33.40 | x86 | would you recommend 2.2.2 or 4.0.0? |
| 18:33.49 | x86 | wait, 4.0.0 is a bootrom |
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| 18:39.00 | fedya | any ideas how i can get the DID dialed to pass to a screenpop, right now i'm just getting an "s" |
| 18:40.25 | x86 | what are you using for screen pops? |
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| 18:40.46 | hmmhesays | [TK]D-Fender: you ever use instant messaging on your poly's? |
| 18:43.25 | [TK]D-Fender | hmmhesays: Answered this a bunch of times. Nope. and * doesn't support it. |
| 18:44.03 | [TK]D-Fender | fedya: Ask yourself WHEN you should have gotten your hands on the DID# vs the extension you happen to be AT. |
| 18:44.31 | fedya | im not sure what you mean |
| 18:44.52 | [TK]D-Fender | fedya: show us your dialplan. |
| 18:44.54 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 18:44.54 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 18:44.56 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 18:45.11 | ZPertee | anyone using spa8000? |
| 18:45.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee: some, yes. |
| 18:45.36 | fedya | where would dialplan on trixbox be :-|? |
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| 18:46.53 | [TK]D-Fender | fedya: Trixbox? Well you're in the WRONG channel then. |
| 18:46.55 | ZPertee | [TK]D-Fender: has there been an issue with getting either vmwi or mwi working? |
| 18:46.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ~trixbox |
| 18:46.56 | jbot | somebody said trixbox was a full linux distro that includes FreePBX and other 3rd party add-ons. It is all this extra stuff which makes trixbox VERY difficult to support, and is not supported in #asterisk. Try asking in #trixbox or on their forums & wiki at http://www.trixbox.org |
| 18:47.04 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee: Nothing I've heard of. |
| 18:47.33 | ZPertee | all i know is that it isn't working for me at all |
| 18:47.45 | fedya | no one on #trixbox answers :-| |
| 18:48.15 | [TK]D-Fender | fedya: Not our problem unfortunately for you. Go check out their forums, etc |
| 18:49.00 | fedya | any recommendations for a call popup ? so i can record what number is being dialed? |
| 18:49.37 | [TK]D-Fender | fedya: You have no clue or control over your dialplan. That puts you squarely in the "screwed" category. |
| 18:50.29 | [TK]D-Fender | fedya: everything "depends", and in the case of FreePBX, nobody wants to deal with it for good reason. |
| 18:50.36 | hmmhesays | [TK]D-Fender: I never caught one of your answers, I know asterisk doesn't support it, but using sipsak with a shell script seems to work fine, I get a response back and everything, just not indication on the phone |
| 18:50.58 | [TK]D-Fender | hmmhesays: well I don't think I tried that but once years ago... |
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| 18:53.54 | hmmhesays | well when I figure it out I will let you know |
| 18:54.28 | jameswf | fedya: you may try #freepbx or #trixb0x |
| 18:54.35 | [TK]D-Fender | hmmhesays: Sure... it may come in handy at some point. |
| 18:54.50 | fedya | im trying #freepbx now |
| 18:54.51 | hmmhesays | it is going to be integral in my parking lot scheme |
| 18:57.19 | jameswf | why are we turning all the parks in to parking lots.... |
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| 18:57.48 | hmmhesays | so I have a place to deal my drugs |
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| 19:15.55 | whymarkwhy | Hi there i need to know is there anyway one can import a exel file for a source into asterisk to create a predictive dialer with will dial the numbers in the sheet but also uses asterisk call record facility to keep track of numbers dials, i know this is a tall question but can you maybe point me into the right direction ,any help welcome |
| 19:16.33 | jameswf | whymarkwhy: have you looked at teleyapper |
| 19:17.05 | hmmhesays | I'm trying to figure out a good way to return what parking lot spots are not in use. Coming up empty on that one. |
| 19:17.29 | whymarkwhy | no let me have a look |
| 19:18.08 | jblack | hmmhesays: The parked calls should be available in the ami. subtract them from the number that are configured. |
| 19:18.33 | hmmhesays | thats not always going to give me a list of open parking lots |
| 19:19.00 | jblack | no. It'll give you a list of ones that aren't open. |
| 19:19.30 | jblack | Thats why you subtract it from the number of configured parking lots. What's not used is by defintion open. =) |
| 19:19.45 | hmmhesays | ie: if 4 spots are in use, then spot number 2 becomes available, subtracting is going to tell me what is open |
| 19:19.53 | hmmhesays | *is not going to |
| 19:20.13 | hmmhesays | I'm looking for a decent way in the dialplan, chanisavail doesn't seem to work properly |
| 19:20.20 | jblack | The AMI will give you a list of what's being used. |
| 19:20.25 | hmmhesays | yeah |
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| 19:22.33 | funxion | anyone know the linksys spa 942? |
| 19:23.38 | hmmhesays | Even better, parkandannounce sets a variable to where the call was parked at |
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| 19:30.28 | whymarkwhy | thx jameswf i am sure i can get started using this THANK YOU |
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| 19:38.36 | jameswf | huray for power outages |
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| 19:40.20 | fedya | is ther ea field in the cdr that stores the number that was dialed? |
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| 19:50.09 | fiXXXerMet | fedya: yes |
| 19:50.31 | fiXXXerMet | 'dst' |
| 19:51.08 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: ok, 2.2.2 running on the IP301 now.... still can not get NTP right |
| 19:51.49 | hmmhesays | heh asterisk crashes every time I park and announce |
| 19:53.16 | fiXXXerMet | I'm getting "res_config_mysql.c:358 update_mysql: MySQL RealTime: Failed to query database. Check debug for more info." ... Which debug is it referring to? |
| 19:53.17 | [TK]D-Fender | x86: Asterisk never "srashes", it just comes to a violent & unexpected stop :) |
| 19:53.20 | [TK]D-Fender | crashes* |
| 19:53.55 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: heh, this has nothing to do with asterisk |
| 19:54.23 | [TK]D-Fender | x86: jsut had your nick at the start, wasn't supposed to be directed at you |
| 19:54.25 | Nugget | "controlled flight into terrain" |
| 19:54.30 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: hehe |
| 19:54.45 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: also, this thing still takes forever to boot |
| 19:55.00 | jblack | Paypal still sucks. |
| 19:55.02 | x86 | IP501 is pefectly fine... boots fast and can sync NTP to my router |
| 19:55.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Nugget: favourite books : "A crash course on flying" and "String theory & quantum mechanics for dummies" |
| 19:55.16 | fedya | fiXXXerMet: what sets that dst field, is it a particular line i cant find in the dialplan? |
| 19:55.19 | x86 | IP301 can not sync NTP, and takes a good 5-10 minutes to boot |
| 19:55.19 | Nugget | hah |
| 19:57.35 | hmmhesays | anyone else have asterisk crash horribly using parkandannounce 1.4.15 |
| 19:57.38 | jblack | I setup a meetme last night. Anyone want to try it? |
| 19:58.26 | jblack | hmmhesays: I only spent a couple days on 1.4.15, so I didn't actually park anyone, but the module did load fine |
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| 20:01.32 | hmmhesays | yeah the module loads fine, but * crashes when you call it |
| 20:01.58 | profounded | hello all, if i have a server running at an office, can i connect a phone to it from within a school network which has a firewall? |
| 20:02.21 | jblack | does /var/log/asterisk/messages give anything useful? |
| 20:02.54 | jblack | profounded: Sure. Just get the admins to loosen the firewall for you. |
| 20:03.28 | [TK]D-Fender | profounded: basic NAT usually isn't a problem. Read up : |
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| 20:03.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 20:03.31 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
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| 20:04.07 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: There's legal issues, not technical involved in this. |
| 20:04.15 | bartpbx | hello |
| 20:04.27 | bartpbx | i have a problem with an asterisk eating up a lot memorry |
| 20:04.31 | fiXXXerMet | turns out that "res_config_mysql.c:358 update_mysql: MySQL RealTime: Failed to query database. Check debug for more info." is showing every time I try to register a phone. The asterisk user has insert, select, update, delete on the database (asterisk.*) |
| 20:04.36 | bartpbx | 418m right after startup |
| 20:04.59 | bartpbx | anyone has a hint what could cause this? |
| 20:05.05 | hmmhesays | looks like right when it goes to announce the call it crashes |
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| 20:06.19 | jblack | bartpbx: VSZ or RSS |
| 20:07.07 | bartpbx | if VSZ == VIRT then VSZ :-) |
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| 20:11.15 | bartpbx | this is only on one instance |
| 20:11.32 | bartpbx | we are running a few * servers but i've never seen this before |
| 20:11.34 | jblack | Ok. long story short, you care about RSS when considering memory |
| 20:12.05 | *** part/#asterisk atomicd (n=Atomicd@74-206-0-81.static-ip.m.telepacific.net) |
| 20:12.14 | NAiL | I've got a SipuraSPA that I'm trying to extract the login credentials from.. Could I set up an asterisk server, fake the dns and get the info that way? |
| 20:12.16 | bartpbx | but.. the server crashes with out of mem |
| 20:12.45 | bartpbx | oom-killer: starts kiling processes |
| 20:12.51 | jblack | Really. hmm |
| 20:12.53 | bartpbx | and then the serv er "dies" |
| 20:13.41 | jblack | how much memory do you have? |
| 20:14.09 | bartpbx | 1GB |
| 20:14.13 | bartpbx | + 1,5GB Swap |
| 20:14.16 | Qwell | oh, oom-killer... |
| 20:14.33 | bartpbx | hi qwell |
| 20:15.14 | jblack | as I understand vsz, it includes all sorts of things that are allocated, but not apportioned. For example, things that are copyonwrite that haven't yet been written to. |
| 20:15.54 | bartpbx | it is so strange.. |
| 20:16.17 | x86 | oomkiller++ |
| 20:16.21 | jblack | have you tried running it through valgrind yet? |
| 20:16.44 | Qwell | bartpbx: turn on memory debugging, and core show memory allocations |
| 20:16.58 | Qwell | and/or core show memory summary...or whatever the command is |
| 20:17.16 | bartpbx | it is still 1.2 |
| 20:17.24 | Qwell | then upgrade |
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| 20:17.24 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o anthm] by ChanServ |
| 20:18.59 | bartpbx | hm |
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| 20:22.40 | fiXXXerMet | I've turned on debug logging in logger.conf but the debug file is empty even though I am getting a " MySQL RealTime: Failed to query database. Check debug for more info." message? |
| 20:25.49 | bsdwarrior | using the manager, do I have to send Action: Logoff\r\n\r\n after each command or once im done ? |
| 20:26.12 | hmmhesays | yes |
| 20:26.28 | hmmhesays | each command |
| 20:26.51 | bsdwarrior | For some reason I can run one command fine, but When I try running the same command again, I get--END COMMAND-- |
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| 20:37.28 | bsdwarrior | I got it |
| 20:37.54 | x86 | [TK]D-Fender: heh, figured out how to put the NTP server settings in sip.cfg on my TFTP server... still had problems with the IP301, so I formatted its filesystem and Voila! |
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| 20:40.33 | fiXXXerMet | It's like * isn't reading my extconfig.conf file... voicemail show users doesn't return any that are in the database, nor does sip show users or peers |
| 20:44.37 | hmmhesays | well now my subscriptions are broken |
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| 20:49.37 | Maxous | jblack: You online? |
| 20:50.00 | jblack | pong |
| 20:50.04 | Maxous | lol |
| 20:50.23 | Maxous | Well, i'm at my desk and have a phone working with the * |
| 20:50.24 | jblack | I wasn't there. Even if I was there, I didn't do it. Even if I did it, I didn't mean it. Even if I meant it, you deserved it |
| 20:50.27 | jblack | So THERE! |
| 20:50.35 | Maxous | hzh |
| 20:50.40 | Maxous | *hah |
| 20:51.14 | Maxous | in the web based interface, I have the option to go to the CLI and edit the files within firefox. |
| 20:51.59 | jblack | what web based interface? |
| 20:52.23 | Maxous | On my asterisk appliance, it has a web based programming interface. |
| 20:52.34 | Maxous | allows me to configure the device via firefox. |
| 20:52.35 | jblack | Oh. |
| 20:52.45 | jblack | I don't have an asterisk appliance. I can't help you. |
| 20:52.55 | Maxous | it's ok. i don't need help. |
| 20:53.00 | Maxous | Was letting you know. |
| 20:53.12 | jblack | Ok. Thanks for the update |
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| 20:53.48 | jblack | that's right. I asked you to tell me last night |
| 20:53.54 | jblack | congrats. =) |
| 20:54.15 | Maxous | Thanks! |
| 20:55.22 | Maxous | Do you want to take a look at it? |
| 20:56.16 | jblack | nah. |
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| 20:58.47 | fiXXXerMet | Now when I start asterisk (asterisk) and then resume (asterisk -r), I don't get a command line - just a blank line that I can type on, but it's not the command line? |
| 20:59.08 | jblack | Did you get a > ? |
| 20:59.26 | fiXXXerMet | Nope |
| 20:59.26 | jblack | if so, try "set verbose 10" and "set debug 10" |
| 20:59.35 | jblack | That sounds broken to me |
| 20:59.38 | fiXXXerMet | After the copyright info, i get a blank line |
| 21:00.18 | jblack | you can strace it to see where it's getting stuck |
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| 21:02.30 | fiXXXerMet | interesting. After connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/var/run/asterisk.ctl"}, 110) = 0 it hangs out read(3, |
| 21:02.39 | fiXXXerMet | s/out/at |
| 21:03.21 | hmmhesays | is it possible to call extension h when a call is hung up from the parking lot? |
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| 21:11.26 | fiXXXerMet | under make menuselect, what is 'Module Embedding'? Is it safe to uncheck all of those? |
| 21:14.00 | jameswf | so i have a context setup that has 1, answer 2, playback 3,dial . I am trying to replicate a far end disconect issue does someone have a more complex way to do this task.... |
| 21:14.16 | jameswf | easy seems to work ok :) |
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| 21:18.38 | fiXXXerMet | weird. Recompiled, fine. Compiled asterisk-addons, bamn, doesn't work |
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| 21:19.43 | fiXXXerMet | You compile asterisk before asterisk-addons, right? |
| 21:20.29 | lophyte | hi all, I've read through all the material on SIP+NAT on voip-info.org and am still unable to fix my problem -- I've got asterisk behind NAT on one end, SIP phone behind a second NAT on the other.. I can establish calls, but there's no audio in either direction and I have the correct RTP ports forwarded on the asterisk end |
| 21:21.07 | fiXXXerMet | Do you have nat=yes? |
| 21:21.10 | lophyte | yes |
| 21:21.20 | fiXXXerMet | udp 10000-20000? |
| 21:21.25 | lophyte | yes |
| 21:21.32 | fiXXXerMet | and the other one, 5060? |
| 21:21.35 | lophyte | yup |
| 21:21.39 | fiXXXerMet | heck if I know! |
| 21:21.47 | lophyte | lol yeah I know the feeling |
| 21:22.53 | lophyte | I even have canreinvite=no :\ |
| 21:23.19 | ManxPower | I assume you have externip and localnet set as well |
| 21:23.24 | [TK]D-Fender | lophyte: read up : |
| 21:23.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 21:23.26 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 21:23.46 | ManxPower | on the router that the phone is behind you do not want to do any port forwarding or anything like that. The only special stuff is on the router that handles the nat for the asterisk server |
| 21:24.44 | lophyte | yeah, I don't have access to change settings on the phone's end anyhow :) |
| 21:25.07 | ManxPower | you also do NOT want to set the actual phone for any special nat stuff except for MAYBE a "nat keepalive" setting. |
| 21:25.32 | [TK]D-Fender | even then, probably not. |
| 21:25.38 | [TK]D-Fender | lophyte: READ THE GUIDE |
| 21:25.42 | lophyte | I am |
| 21:26.01 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: I'm not a big believer in qualify= |
| 21:26.01 | [TK]D-Fender | BBIAB |
| 21:26.17 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: yeah, if the phone can do all the work, sure... |
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| 21:30.33 | lophyte | still no luck |
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| 21:34.26 | lophyte | hah, figured it out |
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| 21:41.30 | fiXXXerMet | damn it |
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| 21:42.48 | drmessano-LT | I need a good UPS for my SPA-3102 |
| 21:42.50 | drmessano-LT | Sad, true |
| 21:43.48 | x86 | anyone know a channel variable that will give the time and date? |
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| 21:47.54 | ManxPower | x86: Yes. |
| 21:48.05 | ManxPower | But you already know where to look for that, don't you? |
| 21:48.33 | ManxPower | channelvariables..txt (1.4) or README.variables (1.2) in the doc/ (or is it docs/) directory of the Asterisk source code. |
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| 21:57.18 | lmadsen | ManxPower: doc/ |
| 21:57.27 | a1fa | woot |
| 21:57.29 | a1fa | i just updated to 1.14.17 ;p |
| 21:57.34 | a1fa | now i feel safer |
| 21:57.49 | ManxPower | upgrade to 1.6! |
| 21:58.35 | Corydon76-lap | 1.14? |
| 21:58.54 | a1fa | s/14/4/ |
| 21:58.55 | a1fa | typo |
| 21:59.06 | a1fa | ManxPower : i am.. i will upgrade on friday |
| 21:59.14 | a1fa | any improvements in HA capabilities? |
| 21:59.24 | a1fa | i want to run two asterisk servers on two different sites |
| 21:59.32 | lmadsen | nothing different than what you can do now |
| 21:59.33 | a1fa | and do HA or maybe load balancing |
| 21:59.37 | lmadsen | DUNDi |
| 22:01.04 | Corydon76-lap | Well, there's res_config_curl for another way of doing realtime |
| 22:01.05 | a1fa | in dundi type config, both servers need to have same A record? |
| 22:02.04 | Corydon76-lap | and cdr_adaptive_odbc |
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| 22:03.59 | x86 | hmm |
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| 22:04.11 | x86 | how do i convert a .raw file created by MixMonitor into a wav? |
| 22:05.04 | a1fa | dundi sounds good |
| 22:05.06 | Corydon76-lap | if you have res_convert loaded, you can use the convert command |
| 22:05.27 | x86 | hmm |
| 22:05.32 | x86 | i mean external of asterisk |
| 22:05.35 | x86 | sox, perhaps? |
| 22:05.43 | x86 | sox doesn't seem to understand it |
| 22:06.13 | ManxPower | x86: well there is 5 mins of my life I'll never get back. |
| 22:06.36 | x86 | ManxPower: eh? |
| 22:08.54 | outtolunc | sox -r 441000 -s -w foo.raw foo.wav doesn't work? |
| 22:08.59 | Corydon76-lap | x86: .raw is simply 16-bit signed linear data, 8000 Hz. There is no header on the file, which is why you'd need to tell sox all of that for it to convert it. But it is possible to use sox, if you specify the myriad command line options |
| 22:09.18 | Corydon76-lap | outtolunc: .raw isn't 44100Hz audio |
| 22:10.14 | fedya | is there a way to mark the output from the cli to know where to scroll back to ? |
| 22:10.29 | Corydon76-lap | fedya: hit enter a couple of times |
| 22:10.31 | a1fa | I <3 asterisk |
| 22:10.37 | a1fa | how many of you knobs upgraded to 1.6? |
| 22:11.01 | a1fa | jokin about that knobs thing hehe |
| 22:12.34 | fedya | hm they scroll out of range of my ssh client :-0 |
| 22:12.51 | ManxPower | fedya: get one with scrollback |
| 22:12.55 | ManxPower | or stop using screen |
| 22:13.16 | fedya | im not using screen, it scrolls back i just dont know how to make putty remember more lines |
| 22:13.51 | a1fa | scroll+lock is your friend |
| 22:14.51 | lirakis | later all |
| 22:14.52 | *** part/#asterisk lirakis (n=lirakis@65.200.191.241) |
| 22:15.05 | shido6 | hey |
| 22:15.58 | shido6 | if i have a field in mysql with /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/5025155593 how do i change all the records that have /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default to /var/spool/asterisk/vociemail/blahblah/andhaveeverythingbehindthisslashstaythesame ? |
| 22:17.01 | [koss] | update talbe set field='newcrap' where field='oldcrap'; |
| 22:17.18 | shido6 | right but there is stuff in newcrap i need to keep |
| 22:17.49 | [koss] | hrmm |
| 22:17.57 | shido6 | its not newcrap its /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/newcrap/5025155593 and /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/oldcrap/502515593 |
| 22:18.10 | shido6 | i want to change the newcrap and the oldcrap parts |
| 22:18.12 | shido6 | only |
| 22:18.38 | ManxPower | why not ln -s /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/oldcrap /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/newcrap |
| 22:18.48 | ManxPower | then figure it out when you are not rushed? |
| 22:19.11 | ManxPower | There's always more than one way to skin a dog |
| 22:19.39 | [koss] | set field=replace(field,'oldfirstpart','newfirstpart') |
| 22:19.42 | [koss] | or something? |
| 22:21.07 | ManxPower | shido6: since I don't know much about mysql stuff, I would write a script to generate 1 line of sql to replace the old with the new, then just send the output to mysql control channel |
| 22:21.38 | ManxPower | I'm much better at using awk to generate 1 sql command per row than I am at figuring out a command to change everything at once with one query |
| 22:21.52 | fedya | exten => s,1,Set(__FROM_DID=${EXTEN}) |
| 22:22.27 | ManxPower | fedya: You want to set FROM_DID to "s" |
| 22:22.37 | *** part/#asterisk razor (i=razor@rapwap.razor.dk) |
| 22:22.44 | ManxPower | it says RIGHT THERE on the line that exten is s |
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| 22:26.01 | codejunky | hello, how much kb/s should I reserve for one sip incoming or outgoing call? |
| 22:26.07 | fedya | what is FROM_DID? is that a variable, how do i set the variable that goes in dst in the cdr? |
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| 22:32.36 | jjshoe | is there any way to get the unique id to print out in the message log? as in, I have 10,000 calls coming in every 5 minutes, and I want to easily grep out the steps a single call took? |
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| 22:41.26 | HowdyDoody | Where do I find a manual on "libtext-csv-perl" ? |
| 22:41.46 | *** part/#asterisk atomicd (n=Atomicd@74-206-0-81.static-ip.m.telepacific.net) |
| 22:42.46 | tzafrir_home | HowdyDoody, perldoc of it? |
| 22:43.08 | tzafrir_home | man Text::CSV |
| 22:43.10 | jjshoe | I was going to say: http://search.cpan.org/~makamaka/Text-CSV-1.00/lib/Text/CSV.pm |
| 22:43.17 | jjshoe | perldoc -f Text::CSV |
| 22:43.41 | jjshoe | --f |
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| 22:53.21 | HowdyDoody | thanks, jjshoe, My astlinux is more limited than DSL. $perldoc - command not found. |
| 22:54.32 | HowdyDoody | The web site is referencing libtext-csv-perl or test-csv-1.00 or ?? |
| 22:54.47 | HowdyDoody | text-csv-1.00 |
| 22:56.26 | tzafrir_home | libtext-scv-perl is the name accoridng to Debian's package naming conventions |
| 22:56.37 | tzafrir_home | The name of the perl module id Txt::CSV |
| 23:00.04 | HowdyDoody | I have astlinux, a text based linux with asterisk. NO Http, just ftp. I access via ssh. I want to list my CDR records with query to leave oout the garbage I don't want to see. (tzafir_home) |
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| 23:03.03 | riksta | Hi guys, I'm having a problem logging into asterisk manager port 5038.....when I telnet into the port, it seems to take over 10 seconds to get the "Asterisk Call Manager/1.0" banner. This causes the java library i'm using to timeout the connection. I'm thinking this is a dns resolve issue, but how do I know what to debug? |
| 23:04.02 | WNSupport | Hi, when i was working with pbxs, I was using a feature we called rotary lines where many lines were bundled together with phone numbers we didn't know and one main with a phone number everyone knew and when someone called this phone number, they were automatically switched to one of the unknown lines by the service provider so that the main number wasn't used. What was that feature really called (can't find it) and is it supported |
| 23:04.37 | tzafrir_home | riksta, add the name / ip address to /etc/hosts . Try on the client and on the server. If any of them helps, you know where the DNS problem is |
| 23:04.56 | riksta | tzafrir_home: yeah i already tried that :( |
| 23:05.58 | _ShrikE | WNSupport: hunt group |
| 23:06.16 | riksta | tzafrir_home: what else can i check please? any ideas? |
| 23:06.35 | tzafrir_home | So it does not look like a simple DNS issue |
| 23:06.36 | WNSupport | isn't a hunt group used to distribute an incoming call to the first available person instead of freeing the main phone number? |
| 23:07.01 | tzafrir_home | You can always try strace. But you'll have to find the proper thread ID (the PID of the relevant thread) |
| 23:07.20 | JT | WNSupport: modern phone systems use digital incoming lines |
| 23:07.30 | _ShrikE | If a call comes in on the main line and it's in use, it hunts to the next available |
| 23:07.33 | riksta | tzafrir_home: if i ssh to another box on different location, the banner comes up straight away so i think it's at this client end....maybe my IPS? |
| 23:07.40 | JT | digital lines can have unlimited calls to unlimited incoming numbers, basically |
| 23:07.47 | riksta | tzafrir can you telnet hamnett.org 5038 and see if it's quick ? |
| 23:09.43 | tzafrir_home | Why do you use both your own host and afraid.org as a name server? |
| 23:09.51 | WNSupport | I am already aware of that, but what I am talking about here is something done on the provider's side, call 17325551215, the provider switches it to 17325551121 and sends it to the pbx I don't know if there is anything needed in the pbx/asterisk to accept that |
| 23:09.52 | tzafrir_home | it behaves the same, BTW |
| 23:10.06 | riksta | tzafrir_home: i don't use both? |
| 23:10.09 | SteveTotaro | as a backup NS |
| 23:10.25 | tzafrir_home | afraid.org already have backup |
| 23:10.44 | _ShrikE | WNSupport: what I am describing IS done on the provider side. |
| 23:10.53 | SteveTotaro | i use afraid |
| 23:10.55 | riksta | tzafrir_home: did it work quickly at your end? |
| 23:11.10 | WNSupport | really sorry if I misunderstood you |
| 23:13.07 | _ShrikE | WNSupport: This describes it better that I can... http://www.bellsouth.com/business/products/voice/centrex/centrex_prod_features_3.html#hunting |
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| 23:15.33 | WNSupport | Thanks _ShrikE, that's exactly what I was looking for, dunno why my provider called it rotary lines.... btw, did you get your name from the Hyperion series by Dan simmons? |
| 23:16.19 | _ShrikE | WNSupport: no problem.. Actually I got it from an interesting type of bird that hangs out in my back yard. |
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| 23:16.52 | variable_office | could you do something like _2XX,1,do(1) 203,2,do(2) _2XX,3,do(3) and then if someone dialed 203 it would do 1,2,3 |
| 23:17.13 | WNSupport | makes more sense, you don't seem like the kind of person made of metal with thousands of rasor blades all over your body ;) |
| 23:18.18 | _ShrikE | :) |
| 23:20.54 | JT | WNSupport: so you're talking about call forwarding or what? |
| 23:26.48 | WNSupport | No, as ShrikE explained I was looking for Line Hunting on the provider's side, not inside the pbx so that when the main line is busy, the call gets transfered to one of the available lines and now, I'm happy to know I won't need extra hardware/software and that asterisk will easily support it |
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| 23:29.27 | jjshoe | WNSupport hunt groups |
| 23:29.31 | jjshoe | WNSupport almost all telco's provide this |
| 23:31.46 | JT | WNSupport: it's seriously no big deal |
| 23:31.59 | JT | WNSupport: and there really is no such thing as line hunt on a PRI. |
| 23:32.08 | JT | even though providers may try and charge for it |
| 23:32.26 | JT | only with > 1 PRI you could consider it line hunt |
| 23:32.33 | WNSupport | unfortunately i can't switch to isdn/T1 |
| 23:32.51 | JT | why not? |
| 23:33.26 | WNSupport | too expensive for a 5 employees shop |
| 23:34.16 | JT | either way, line hunt works for 1 incoming number on analogue too |
| 23:34.47 | jjshoe | more then 4 analogue lines and you might as well get a t1 |
| 23:35.09 | WNSupport | we'll have at most 3 lines |
| 23:35.17 | WNSupport | thanks for the help |
| 23:36.07 | WNSupport | seeya back when I've gathered enough knowledge to help people... |
| 23:36.15 | jjshoe | 3 lines then buy phones that support three lines and don't waste money on a card... |
| 23:36.15 | jjshoe | blech. |
| 23:36.55 | Luhiwu | hi all, i'm having troubles when using reinvites, i have a chain of 4 asterisks and i enabled reinvite on all of them, and i get 491 request pending when the call is connected... am i doing something wrong? |
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| 23:39.09 | JT | yes, crazy reinvites, that's probably the problem |
| 23:39.43 | x86 | heh |
| 23:39.57 | x86 | that's a lot of invitations |
| 23:40.04 | x86 | must be having a party ;P |
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| 23:55.59 | Olobola | can ael run off a seperate server similar to fastagi? |
| 23:56.43 | JT | not unless you mean store the .ael files elsewhere |
| 23:56.47 | Qwell | no, it's just dialplan language |
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| 23:57.23 | grandpapadot | Slick. I wrote a PHP app that will allow you to select contacts and call them or throw them ina conference call. I love this sh*t. |
| 23:57.39 | Olobola | thank you |