| 00:01.46 | *** join/#asterisk remmo (n=junk@203.32.47.250) |
| 00:02.00 | drmessano | So I have these blank logs we print out.. daily... I design them in excel, PDF em, tell everyone to PRINT the logs.. dont photocopy them |
| 00:02.14 | drmessano | They've been photcopying them for a month |
| 00:02.18 | drmessano | No wonder Fax wont die |
| 00:02.46 | jblack | why are they writing in logs, instead of entering information on a website? |
| 00:03.00 | drmessano | Because its not legal.. Have to have it all on paper |
| 00:03.15 | jblack | You can't print them after they enter it on the website? |
| 00:03.49 | drmessano | Naah.. they need to sign in and sign out on the log too, and it has to be printed and in cursive |
| 00:04.02 | drmessano | They need to do it as they go |
| 00:04.04 | jblack | heh. How archaic. |
| 00:04.08 | drmessano | No kidding |
| 00:04.14 | drmessano | Good ole FCC |
| 00:04.28 | jblack | This is the _FCC_ mandating this?!? |
| 00:04.31 | drmessano | yes |
| 00:04.55 | jblack | The same guys that regulate cablemodems, hdtv, and all things digital? |
| 00:04.59 | drmessano | yep |
| 00:05.35 | jblack | That's so silly, I have to believe it |
| 00:05.41 | drmessano | lol |
| 00:05.45 | hmmhesays | hmm what is muted.c? |
| 00:05.58 | drmessano | The FCC loves paper.. Any change to something electronic is an uphill battle |
| 00:06.01 | jblack | hmmhesays: My bet would be something features.conf related. |
| 00:06.19 | hmmhesays | yeah my cross compile is tanking on that |
| 00:06.26 | lunaphyte | hi #asterisk :) |
| 00:06.31 | cappiz | jblack, can this SPA3102 route incoming calls from the PSTN to the asterisk? |
| 00:06.33 | drmessano | Every week I have 49 paper logs I have to scan over and sign |
| 00:06.40 | drmessano | Yes cappiz |
| 00:06.45 | drmessano | Its an FXO and FXS |
| 00:06.46 | cappiz | kk |
| 00:06.47 | jblack | lunaphyte: #asterisk is a container for lots of people. Do you normally greet your milk carton? :) |
| 00:06.53 | jblack | Oh, and "hi" back |
| 00:07.28 | De_Mon | well look at how well the digital voting think is doing in the US |
| 00:07.41 | lunaphyte | jblack: sure, i greet it with moist, trembling lips. :) |
| 00:07.49 | jblack | Voting is one of the very few things that I think shoudl be on paper. |
| 00:07.57 | jblack | wtf?!?!? |
| 00:08.06 | drmessano | Uhhh |
| 00:08.20 | drmessano | Hes trying to tickle your legs |
| 00:08.34 | lunaphyte | haha. |
| 00:08.56 | lunaphyte | unless they talk about did providers in #phone-sex, then no, not really. |
| 00:08.57 | asr33 | tdm400p is that a PCI card? |
| 00:09.06 | jblack | asr33: yup |
| 00:09.31 | asr33 | would it work in a soekris 5501? |
| 00:09.58 | asr33 | never mind i'll read about it |
| 00:10.03 | lunaphyte | i'm wondering who some of you guys might vouch for as did providers, in the context of residential use. |
| 00:10.08 | jblack | No idea. I don't know what a soekris is (sounds like a vegetable for me) |
| 00:10.35 | jblack | lunaphyte: I like callwithus, when they happen to have a DID available. |
| 00:10.49 | asr33 | it a small embeded computer |
| 00:10.55 | *** join/#asterisk craigk (n=craigk@58.174.150.119) |
| 00:10.57 | asr33 | www.soekris.com |
| 00:11.06 | jblack | asr33: I do know, though, that there are two different classes of TDM cards.. both for 5 volt pci, and the lower voltage pci |
| 00:11.28 | asr33 | nice thank you |
| 00:11.31 | drmessano | Fried Soekris sounds good |
| 00:11.37 | jblack | If that's a pci slot that linux recognizes, then you should be good. |
| 00:12.10 | drmessano | 3.3 |
| 00:13.23 | jblack | asr33: That soekris looks like a really neat toy. =) |
| 00:13.47 | asr33 | it does the job really well |
| 00:14.09 | jblack | Does it have enough horsepower for asterisk though? |
| 00:14.27 | asr33 | 5501-60 does |
| 00:14.36 | asr33 | net5501 |
| 00:14.49 | lunaphyte | jblack: interesting - how does that caveat work? how is it that numbers come and go? |
| 00:15.15 | jblack | lunaphyte: Different providers have purchased different blocks of dids. |
| 00:15.42 | jblack | So provider A may have Wilkes-Barre, PA, while provider B may have Wilkes-Barre,PA and Scranton,PA , and provider C may not have anything closer than PIttsburgh |
| 00:16.19 | jblack | sipbroker.com has a ranked list of voip providers, by the way |
| 00:16.29 | lunaphyte | oh, ok. |
| 00:16.31 | drmessano | I use les.net |
| 00:16.40 | drmessano | they continue to provide me with decent service |
| 00:16.50 | drmessano | This is not a paid announcement |
| 00:16.51 | djc_ | is spandsp now part of asterisk 1.4.17 ? |
| 00:17.10 | jblack | I lied. It's voxalot |
| 00:17.32 | djc_ | trying to compile app_(rx|tx)fax, and there seems to be a plc.h in both asterisk and spandsp, and there are conflicting defs for a number of vars that are killing the build |
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| 00:18.24 | jblack | http://www.voxalot.com/action/globalProviderList |
| 00:19.07 | djc_ | jblack, i use callwuthus.com too.. very decent folk there |
| 00:19.37 | jblack | djc_: Every email support? I don't think those guys sleep. =) |
| 00:20.06 | djc_ | in fact, when I first went there looking for DID's, and all they has was the numbers, but without listing the city names, and I emailed and told them that was difficult, and pointed out an easy way they could look them up and include them, they implented it like the next day |
| 00:20.12 | djc_ | i was quite impressed |
| 00:20.31 | jblack | Callwithus, which I recommended, is ranked way down at #10. LES.net is ranked 5th from last for providers that have _any_ ranking |
| 00:20.56 | djc_ | you know of an outbound provider that lets you manage your own CID? I have one, but im starting not to like them for other reasons, and would like to find another |
| 00:21.00 | jblack | Better than Sunrocket, but worse than vonage. |
| 00:21.18 | drmessano | A lot of people use Les.net and are happy with it.. Not sure 1 page is going to sway them |
| 00:21.21 | jblack | djc_: I know that callwithus and teliax allow you to manage your own cid. I think Les does too. |
| 00:21.31 | drmessano | But again, what do I know.. I use it and it works |
| 00:21.40 | lunaphyte | what does it mean to manage your own did? |
| 00:21.41 | djc_ | do you have to ask them to clear it or is it that way by default? |
| 00:21.51 | djc_ | I guess I havent actually tried with callwithus |
| 00:21.51 | jblack | drmessano: I'd never recommend someone move from something they like. If it's established and it's good, then please stick with it. =) |
| 00:21.53 | djc_ | CID, not DID |
| 00:21.56 | djc_ | CID = callerid |
| 00:22.11 | lunaphyte | oh, sorry, misread. |
| 00:22.14 | djc_ | np |
| 00:22.29 | jblack | drmessano: But a new account? I just tried going through their process less than a month ago, and I can definitively state that "they took my money, then claimed they never got it". |
| 00:22.30 | djc_ | anyway, no one has any ideas on spandsp? |
| 00:22.35 | lunaphyte | meaning you send cid to them and they pass it on? |
| 00:23.03 | djc_ | meaning you can set your CID to whatever you want.. handy when you have multiple inbound numbers, maybe from other providers, and you want to pick what shows up when you make an outbound call |
| 00:23.07 | jblack | lunaphyte: yes. |
| 00:23.28 | lunaphyte | yeah - i've used voipjet for a while now, for outbound, and am able to set it to whatever i want. |
| 00:23.30 | drmessano | I know you're bitter, but a lot of people use them and swear by them.. Ive not heard a bad thing about them until you had this problem |
| 00:23.32 | djc_ | also if you want to, say, relay inbound calls to your cellphone, you can relay the CID of the caller so when you answer you see their number instead of your own |
| 00:23.49 | lunaphyte | i think they have a disclaimer along the lines of you needing to own the number or such, but that's it. |
| 00:23.57 | jblack | bear in mind that "can set your CID to whatever you want" does not mean "should set our CID to wahtever you want". You can get into a lot of trouble very quickly if you play childish games. |
| 00:24.10 | lunaphyte | of course. |
| 00:24.18 | djc_ | i upgraded from 1.2.13 to 1.4.17 today.. and everything seems to be mostly ok except fax receving is broke |
| 00:24.26 | lunaphyte | too bad childish games are soo fun :) |
| 00:24.50 | drmessano | Actually, they're ranked 7th amongst canadian providers |
| 00:25.08 | djc_ | yeah, like if you start making crank calls with fake cid |
| 00:25.12 | jblack | Oh, SURE! I'd love to set my cid to NSA headquarters and then give greenpeace a call... But I enjoy my freedom more than I do pranks |
| 00:25.17 | drmessano | lol |
| 00:25.38 | djc_ | voip providers likely keep close logs |
| 00:25.53 | jblack | Just bear in mind... Any crime that crosses state lines is federal, and federal crimes _start_ with "Felony". |
| 00:26.01 | jjshoe | actually |
| 00:26.05 | jjshoe | it's now illegal to fake your CID |
| 00:26.14 | djc_ | and if they dont, when the NSA starts calling them trying to find out who is spoofing their phone #, they will start. In a hurry. |
| 00:26.31 | drmessano | The NSA doesnt have to call anyone |
| 00:26.34 | drmessano | THey already know |
| 00:26.35 | djc_ | of course, all that assumes you even know what the NSA's phone # is ;) |
| 00:26.38 | drmessano | Its all tapped anyway |
| 00:26.56 | jblack | drmessano: They just speak through the speaker embedded in your ceiling fan? |
| 00:27.09 | drmessano | The NSA probably sits in here looking for Asterisk Blue Boxers |
| 00:27.16 | djc_ | sigh.. I gather no one has any suggestions on getting app_rxfax working with 1.4.17 ? |
| 00:27.21 | drmessano | JBLACK DID IT |
| 00:27.24 | jblack | djc_: It just works here. |
| 00:27.31 | djc_ | which version of asterisk? |
| 00:28.03 | jblack | Oh yeah.. Dear NSA.. Since you're watching me YET AGAIN, can I please, please have a free helicopter-black coffe mug? After all, I'm making your job easier by promoting ethical behaviours! |
| 00:28.14 | drmessano | lol |
| 00:28.27 | drmessano | But you cant see a helicopter-black coffee mug |
| 00:28.32 | drmessano | its STEALTH |
| 00:28.35 | djc_ | and if 1.4.x, where did you get the app_(tx|rx)fax.c, did you put them in the asterisk source, or did you compile them seperately... etc? |
| 00:28.41 | scooby2 | someone remind me. does xen allow you to grow memory or shrink it without restarting the domu? |
| 00:28.41 | drmessano | You'd burn yourself pouring |
| 00:28.46 | jblack | djc_: 1.4.17, on ubuntu. |
| 00:28.53 | jjshoe | http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.00704: |
| 00:28.57 | jblack | I did an apt-get install asterisk-app-fax or somesuch |
| 00:29.00 | jjshoe | might want to think twice about spoofing cid |
| 00:29.19 | jblack | jjshoe: bad url |
| 00:29.50 | drmessano | Um |
| 00:29.50 | drmessano | Thats a bill |
| 00:29.50 | djc_ | well im on freebsd.. everything worked with 1.2.13 but I want to be able to use nv_faxdetect or whatever its called |
| 00:29.50 | drmessano | Not a law |
| 00:29.50 | djc_ | i want one number for voice and fax inbound |
| 00:29.57 | jblack | Oh, it doesn't include nv_fax_detect. |
| 00:30.19 | djc_ | well, if I get fax working at all then I can start working on getting that working too ;) |
| 00:30.21 | jjshoe | jblack only if your irc client sucks |
| 00:30.27 | jblack | Good luck finding _that_. From what I undertand, the author of fax_detect gave up because of licensing. |
| 00:30.37 | jblack | jjshoe: I don't look at web pages with irc. I use mozilla. |
| 00:30.42 | drmessano | lol |
| 00:30.44 | lunaphyte | regarding did providers - for my purposes, i have family in a few different spots around the us, and would like to get local numbers in those locations. specifically 3 locations, maybe 4 if i include my location. i see some providers offer toll-free did - would that be worth doing instead of multiple dids in different locations? |
| 00:30.47 | jblack | And it's a bad url because it doesn't point to a law like you claim it does. |
| 00:30.51 | drmessano | Its not a law anyway... Its a bill |
| 00:30.54 | djc_ | jblack, fwiw, that url worked for me |
| 00:31.14 | jjshoe | jblack where do you get url's from? |
| 00:31.23 | djc_ | you will definately pay by the mionute for toll-free calls |
| 00:31.30 | djc_ | depends on call volume.. |
| 00:31.36 | jblack | djc_: Ok.... so.... here's a great site for reaffirming your believe in $DIETY : http://monsterbondage.com |
| 00:31.41 | jblack | You want to tell me that's a good url? |
| 00:32.00 | djc_ | er? what? |
| 00:32.12 | drmessano | http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-704 |
| 00:32.18 | drmessano | That has the rundown |
| 00:32.24 | djc_ | I was able to load http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.00704: |
| 00:32.24 | drmessano | Theres 2 bills |
| 00:32.34 | djc_ | in firefox |
| 00:32.46 | jblack | djc_: Great. Now... Are you looking at said promised _law_? Or just a bill that's in process? |
| 00:33.01 | djc_ | ok, i thought you said it was a bad url, eg 404 |
| 00:33.21 | jjshoe | djc_ he did |
| 00:33.38 | jblack | djc_: Fair enough. I wasn't as clear as I could be. |
| 00:33.45 | djc_ | i was just confirming that I was able to load the page with no prob |
| 00:34.04 | jblack | So, I'll be more clear.... The url exists, but jjshoe is a liar about what it says. |
| 00:34.09 | lunaphyte | how meaningful is that did vendor rating on callwithus? |
| 00:34.11 | jblack | =) |
| 00:34.17 | drmessano | Theres also been several other bills that have died |
| 00:34.24 | jblack | lunaphyte: you tell me. |
| 00:34.28 | drmessano | I dont see it passing either |
| 00:34.47 | jjshoe | jblack can you show me what I said about that url? I seem to be missing where I said anything about it, other then pasting it into the channel |
| 00:35.15 | djc_ | jblack, can you look at whatever package/port you added that added fax to asterisk, and tell me where it puts its files? |
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| 00:35.43 | drmessano | [19:23] <jjshoe> actually |
| 00:35.44 | drmessano | [19:23] <jjshoe> it's now illegal to fake your CID |
| 00:35.51 | drmessano | Then you pasted a URL to back it up |
| 00:36.09 | drmessano | That was "VERY FAIL" |
| 00:36.31 | djc_ | i looked at astfax, and even thought their site claims that it can work as both "email to fax" and "fax to email", nowhere in their docs, or in the source is there anything that even mentions fax receiving. |
| 00:36.32 | jjshoe | drmessano a url I pasted five minutes later is tied to something I said up above? |
| 00:36.46 | jblack | Did you first say "19:26 < jjshoe> it's now illegal to fake your CID" ? Did you provide "19:28 < jjshoe> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.00704:" as a supporting fact that 'faking callerid is illegal' ? |
| 00:36.46 | jjshoe | djc_ asterisk + faxing is a mess, good luck. |
| 00:36.57 | jjshoe | jblack no, as a matter of fact I did not. |
| 00:36.59 | jblack | if I misunderstood you, then I'm sorry. |
| 00:37.04 | djc_ | yeah.. damn shame tho, i had it working fine (for receiving) with 1.2.13 |
| 00:37.22 | djc_ | if I cant get it going with 1.4.17 at all, i'm gonna have to wipe it out and reinstall the backed up 1.2.13 |
| 00:37.33 | jblack | You did not say those things, or you did not provide that url as a supporting fact for your previous statement? |
| 00:37.49 | jjshoe | jblack second of the two |
| 00:37.57 | jjshoe | I was obviously pasting the url to correct myself |
| 00:38.04 | jjshoe | jblack did you need some lube when attempting to stroke your ego or? |
| 00:38.13 | jblack | Then I'm sorry for wrongly thinking that you were providing support for your own statements. |
| 00:38.41 | jblack | And also sorry for stating as such. |
| 00:39.04 | drmessano | You never made it clear you were refuting your previous statement.. a conversation ensued that countered your original statement and URL was provided that clearly countered your statement, which was a bit misleading |
| 00:39.19 | drmessano | I too apologize for my misinterpretation of the statements |
| 00:39.21 | djc_ | "Its all so confusing!" |
| 00:39.23 | djc_ | :P |
| 00:39.31 | jjshoe | HR251 has made it along further, but is not quite there yet either. |
| 00:40.22 | jjshoe | http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR251: |
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| 00:40.50 | drmessano | I don't think they'll win further support for it, considering the hot water the telecomms are in over the snooping |
| 00:40.52 | djc_ | In any case, I suspect we can all agree that while being able to set your CID yourself on outbound calls, to a number that is in fact your own, is a good thing, abusing that ability to make crank calls, or harass or annoy other folk, is a bad idea and while it may or may not become illegal, you will probably at the very least find your ability to do so revoked by your provider if you persist in doing so |
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| 00:42.31 | djc_ | What I find astonishing, is that when calling a cell phone company, *from* the cell phone they provide you service on, they still have to ask you your number, and apparently dont have the ability to even see your CID |
| 00:42.58 | djc_ | and no, they arent merely confirming that you know the number, they honestly dont see it |
| 00:43.05 | jblack | well said, djc_. Ghandi would give you a hug. |
| 00:43.32 | drmessano | Contrary to the abilities of the "smart" phones out there, the cellular networks are pretty stupid |
| 00:43.35 | djc_ | not like confirming you know the number really confirms anything, since if someone stole your phone, they could easily look in the phone to find the number |
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| 00:44.06 | drmessano | You know whats sad.. |
| 00:44.09 | djc_ | jblack, can you look at whatever package/port you added that added fax to asterisk, and tell me where it puts its files? |
| 00:44.16 | jblack | djc_: sure |
| 00:44.20 | djc_ | danka |
| 00:44.35 | jblack | no, I can't right now. Sorry. ubuntu bug with passwd -l locked me out of my own server. |
| 00:44.40 | djc_ | and uhm.. if it just added files t the asterisk source.. oh.. |
| 00:44.45 | drmessano | For a while the surplus cell equipment was sold and shipped to south america, now they're stuff is better than ours, so they dont want it |
| 00:44.45 | jblack | I can tell you in 3 or 4 hours, after I cycle the machine |
| 00:44.56 | drmessano | their* |
| 00:45.13 | djc_ | well if im around, i'll remind you ;) |
| 00:45.18 | djc_ | i might be |
| 00:45.21 | jblack | please do. |
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| 00:45.30 | djc_ | danka again |
| 00:45.39 | djc_ | in the mean time i'll bank my head on it for a while |
| 00:45.42 | djc_ | er bang |
| 00:45.43 | djc_ | ba |
| 00:45.46 | djc_ | BAH |
| 00:46.08 | lunaphyte | am i reading this correct? price per minute - $0.029. in other words, 2.9 cents per minute? |
| 00:46.21 | drmessano | yes |
| 00:46.25 | drmessano | Thats rather high |
| 00:46.37 | jblack | That must be teliax or somesuch. Callwithus is .0127 |
| 00:46.45 | lunaphyte | that was my next question :) its for a toll free did. |
| 00:46.50 | drmessano | oh |
| 00:46.55 | drmessano | Tollfree, thats not bad |
| 00:47.06 | jblack | Oh, incoming, $.029 for a DID. |
| 00:47.06 | tzanger | looks like I'm gonna be in Montreal next week (Verdun area I think) |
| 00:47.08 | lunaphyte | i guess i need to do a little math. |
| 00:47.15 | tzanger | [TK]D-Fender, you anywhere near that? |
| 00:47.17 | jblack | I'm sorry (again). I thought you were talking about outgoing rates. |
| 00:47.23 | lunaphyte | no worries. |
| 00:48.13 | jblack | .029 incoming for an 800 did seems reasonable to me. |
| 00:48.15 | djc_ | keep in mind the recipient of a tollfree call has to pay for the 'long distance' part of the call |
| 00:48.21 | jblack | Who's that? LES? |
| 00:48.30 | HumanCell | Question: Where do I look for docs on how to add a script that I want to run when a voice mail is left? |
| 00:48.37 | djc_ | and three cents sounds pretty damn cheap for tollfree number to me |
| 00:48.48 | lunaphyte | for outgoing, i've been pretty happy with voipjet. |
| 00:49.15 | djc_ | externnotify is voicemail.conf |
| 00:49.17 | djc_ | er |
| 00:49.20 | djc_ | externnotify iN voicemail.conf |
| 00:49.46 | lunaphyte | jblack: that's callcentric. |
| 00:50.01 | drmessano | wow |
| 00:50.02 | jblack | I've heard that callcentric is very copetitive |
| 00:50.12 | HumanCell | djc_: Is that in the general section? |
| 00:50.36 | djc_ | just go in voicemail.conf and search for it.. this is assuming you have the sample configs with all the comments |
| 00:50.45 | djc_ | or look for it on voip-info.org |
| 00:50.46 | jblack | cwu, on 866, is $8/2k, then .008/min |
| 00:50.54 | jblack | That's gotta be a typo. |
| 00:50.57 | HumanCell | djc_: Thanks ... off and running ... :-) |
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| 00:51.54 | jblack | cwu, on 888, is $6.5/0 and $.0468/min |
| 00:52.04 | jblack | Which is much closer to what I'd expect to see. |
| 00:52.17 | drmessano | jblack: I did find SOMETHING with callwithus that was decent |
| 00:52.26 | drmessano | .012 across the river in SC |
| 00:52.46 | drmessano | Still $6 a month |
| 00:53.00 | drmessano | Lemme do some math |
| 00:53.22 | jblack | THat's $6/how much ? |
| 00:54.46 | lunaphyte | jblack: you mentioned the recipient having to pay for the 'long-distance' part of the call. were you alluding to additional charges beyond what one might see listing for a provider's pricing, or just commenting on the higher prices for tollfree dids? |
| 00:55.16 | jblack | lunaphyte: The market these days seems to be broken up into two different pricing models.... |
| 00:55.32 | lunaphyte | $6.5/0 $.0468 - does that mean monthly/setup & per minute ? |
| 00:55.36 | drmessano | Ok $6 a month with 1.2 cent per minute thereafter |
| 00:55.43 | drmessano | and 2000 included minutes |
| 00:55.45 | jblack | $15-$25/mo for unlimited incoming, $5-$10 a month from a block of minutes incoming, or >$5 a month for no free incoming. |
| 00:55.57 | drmessano | Which is $30 worth |
| 00:55.59 | drmessano | So thats not bad |
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| 00:56.26 | djc_ | actually I said that, and was just reflecting the higher prices of tollfree DID's |
| 00:56.39 | jblack | The actual incoming costs if charges apply vary by DID, though most providers average them out.. usally to around... .019/min for non-tollfree, and .05/min for tollfree. Incoming |
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| 00:56.50 | djc_ | remember, irrelevant of voip, for toll-free calls, the owner of the number 'pays for the call' |
| 00:57.13 | djc_ | which is why they dont cost the caller anything |
| 00:58.04 | djc_ | jblack, s/>/</ |
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| 00:58.36 | jblack | Yeah. I meant <$5, not >$5 |
| 00:59.14 | lunaphyte | djc_: oops, right. ok. |
| 00:59.36 | jblack | there's hundreds of providers, and they have come up with hundreds of pricing models. |
| 00:59.46 | djc_ | anyway I may have found a fix for my compilation problem with rxfax.. |
| 01:00.06 | jblack | throw in reliability and customer service quality into the mix, and you get a quite interesting calculus |
| 01:00.19 | lunaphyte | indeed. |
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| 01:01.17 | djc_ | ok i fixed one problem, and now theres another.. who the heck uses 'cmake' anyway |
| 01:01.47 | lotho | yeah cmake sucks |
| 01:01.48 | djc_ | yeah, it ranges from expensive crap to reasonable priced excellent service, and everything inbetween |
| 01:02.38 | djc_ | with regular make if there was a link problem it was easy ti edit the makefile.. but... cmake is foreign to me |
| 01:02.52 | jblack | Yah. And even the relationship between company and client is a crapshoot. |
| 01:03.08 | lunaphyte | where do you guys feel the cutoff is for going from a no free incoming plan to one of the other plans, generally speaking? e.g. if i use tons and tons of minutes, it's certainly more economical to go with an unlimited or large block plan, but if i use a small amount there's no reason to pay so much. |
| 01:03.21 | jblack | drmessano has a great experience with LES. Loves 'em. But I got different behaviours from them, and think them frauds. |
| 01:03.35 | lunaphyte | haha. |
| 01:03.46 | lunaphyte | life is odd like that. |
| 01:04.42 | kodomo | hm - out of curiosity - does anybody know whether fwdOUT is still alive? |
| 01:04.46 | jblack | Yeah. And in my first 2 days with callwithus, i mailed them thrice. Each time, I had a great answer from them in less than ten minutes. So now I swear by them. |
| 01:04.56 | jblack | kodomo: I believe fwdOUT is dead. |
| 01:05.36 | lunaphyte | i haven't seen any of these folks mention contracts or such - is that something that we've been fortunate to somehow avoid getting into with this? |
| 01:05.46 | kodomo | jblack: looks like it (last update 2005) - pity though |
| 01:05.50 | djc_ | ok.. cmake is trying to link rcfax with spandsp (-lspandsp) but the library isnt in the location it is probably assuming it is, so it cant find it. I need to tell it to add where it actually is, but Ive no idea where to do that |
| 01:06.04 | djc_ | its called competition, *lots* of it |
| 01:06.10 | jblack | kodomo: However, you can get really cheap OUT from a load of people for really cheap... If you're paying more than .015/min, you're paying too much (which is 56 cents an _hour_ for calls) |
| 01:06.22 | djc_ | a provider that insisted on contracts for ala-carte voip stuff wouldnt get too many customers |
| 01:06.51 | jblack | ya know.. I was thinking that just today. |
| 01:06.51 | djc_ | i think there is one retail package provider that does contracts.. but I think they also offer non-contract at a higher price |
| 01:07.26 | djc_ | the cell companies get away with it becuase they *all* do it.. but voip providers dont, and the first one that does loses.. |
| 01:07.29 | jblack | i'm spending... oh, perhaps $3-$4 a month on outgoing calls (and that's with -giving- them away via dundi)... |
| 01:07.39 | jblack | how is that worth the effort for anyone? |
| 01:07.46 | djc_ | and even the cell companies are starting to give in, althohgh they make it hard to find |
| 01:07.53 | lunaphyte | jblack: mind if i ask about how many minutes, more or less? |
| 01:08.04 | jblack | lunaphyte: pardon? |
| 01:08.12 | Kigh | djc_: you need to run ldconfig ( -m) |
| 01:08.18 | djc_ | no |
| 01:08.34 | jblack | lunaphyte: How many minutes am I giving away? |
| 01:08.48 | kodomo | jblack: hehe - yeah - but I liked the social idea 'bout it... |
| 01:08.54 | lunaphyte | jblack: you mentioned $3-4 a month - i was curious how many minutes of usage that equated to. |
| 01:09.01 | djc_ | ldconfig is for linux, and is for runtime linked libraries.. this is trying to compile-time link an .o file ;) |
| 01:09.05 | djc_ | and I am on freebsd ;) |
| 01:09.25 | jblack | Dundi is probably well under 20 minutes a day at the moment. |
| 01:09.26 | djc_ | Kigh, but thanks for the try :) |
| 01:09.32 | Kigh | err |
| 01:09.33 | mrtelnet | anyone know of a cheap fax to email service? |
| 01:09.44 | jblack | definitely well under.. But that's not necessarily accurate for the future... |
| 01:09.49 | drmessano | 333 minutes = $4 |
| 01:10.09 | drmessano | Well |
| 01:10.15 | drmessano | If you get 2000 free |
| 01:10.17 | drmessano | thats 2333 |
| 01:10.31 | jblack | Becuase now I'm covering 2/3 of PA, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota and South Dakota. |
| 01:10.49 | jblack | mrtelnet: You can do it yourself if you're running *. =) |
| 01:10.49 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 01:11.19 | jblack | For free, if you use an IPKall number. |
| 01:11.56 | drmessano | and dont forget ENUM for free TollFree outbound |
| 01:11.58 | drmessano | I use it all the time |
| 01:12.11 | djc_ | jblack, well, *maybe* you can ;) |
| 01:12.23 | jblack | drmessano: Did you list your numbers in enum164.org ? |
| 01:12.23 | kodomo | btw. - as there's much more activity here now than last time I asked that question: Does anybody know whether it's planned to fix SIP SRV lookup issues in * ? |
| 01:12.27 | drmessano | yes |
| 01:12.36 | drmessano | Cell too, so it routes to my PBX |
| 01:12.40 | jblack | me too. |
| 01:13.14 | djc_ | does the pstn look at enum for call routing? |
| 01:13.15 | jblack | djc_: My server is still up. I just can't log into it. =) |
| 01:13.18 | djc_ | or is that stricly voip |
| 01:13.23 | drmessano | Its voip |
| 01:13.33 | jblack | Fax me something to 206-203-5386 if you with to verify |
| 01:13.43 | djc_ | jblack, im getting closer.. just need to figure out how to tell cmake to add an -l directive when it links the objects together |
| 01:14.49 | djc_ | actually, I mean an -L directive |
| 01:14.56 | djc_ | to tell it where to find the lib its looking for |
| 01:15.14 | djc_ | which isnt where the person that built this source package assumed it would be |
| 01:15.17 | djc_ | wherever that is |
| 01:15.21 | kodomo | hm - guess no ^^ |
| 01:15.53 | djc_ | and I may have just found it |
| 01:16.27 | lunaphyte | once did service is purchased and a number assigned, how common is it that a provider would suddenly decide you couldn't use that number and force you to change it? |
| 01:16.33 | djc_ | jblack, Oh i dont doubt it works.. i had it working great with 1.2.13 |
| 01:16.55 | drmessano | IPKALL numbers are great for being disposable too |
| 01:17.18 | drmessano | I still say IPKALL + Dating = Much Fun |
| 01:17.20 | jblack | lunaphyte: I imagine it can happen, but I've never heard of it being the case |
| 01:17.43 | drmessano | She goes psycho on you, redirect |
| 01:18.36 | kodomo | but I wouldn't count on 'life time offers' either *g* |
| 01:18.41 | jblack | so, found out what makes IPKall tick. |
| 01:18.53 | Qwell | lunaphyte: I once had a # stripped from me, but not by my provider |
| 01:19.04 | jblack | They collect exchange fees. |
| 01:19.13 | Qwell | the LA Times decided that they didn't want me having 800-4latimes |
| 01:19.21 | jblack | lol. |
| 01:19.28 | jblack | They can do that? |
| 01:19.31 | Qwell | apparently |
| 01:19.32 | lunaphyte | Qwell: wow - who enforced that? |
| 01:19.42 | Qwell | no idea, ask bkw :p |
| 01:19.52 | lunaphyte | jblack: what are exchange fees? |
| 01:20.14 | lunaphyte | bkw? |
| 01:20.28 | Qwell | lunaphyte: he's the one that had to tell me what happened |
| 01:20.32 | jblack | lunaphyte: exchanges charge each other fees to accept calls from one another. Kind of like how peering between isps. |
| 01:21.06 | jblack | though I'm sure it's very different on a practical level. |
| 01:21.22 | lunaphyte | i see. |
| 01:21.39 | jblack | anyways, IPKall has a deal with the LEC that they're in to get a fraction of the money they get for IPKall numbers. |
| 01:21.50 | lunaphyte | Qwell: ah. |
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| 01:22.18 | jblack | So when someone on verizon calls my ipkall number in washington, verizon owes the LEC in washington some small pittance, of which IPKall gets a cut. |
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| 01:24.27 | lunaphyte | i had forgotten about ipkall. i used them years ago when my brother was in 360. |
| 01:28.44 | jblack | I don't even give out my local number. i just give out the IPKall number, since it costs me nothing, and the caller nothing extra. |
| 01:29.43 | drmessano | Long distance is free for most cell users anyway, so local area is meaningless anymore |
| 01:29.50 | jblack | yup |
| 01:30.06 | jblack | well, no more or less than local calls. |
| 01:30.10 | drmessano | Right. |
| 01:30.44 | drmessano | Anything I can do to tip the scale a little bit is good lol |
| 01:33.37 | lunaphyte | i just signed up for an ipkall num again. it says that calls will come from 66.54.140.46 (voiper.ipkall.com) or 66.54.140.47 (voiper2.ipkall.com). cna i have 2 host = entries in sip.conf? |
| 01:33.52 | sbingner | yea, just make them both in the same context |
| 01:34.51 | sbingner | lunaphyte, http://rafb.net/p/flMxsO38.html <-- my full sip config for ipkall |
| 01:35.17 | sbingner | you can't have two host= on the same peer |
| 01:35.23 | lunaphyte | ah - i see. 2 sip entries going to the same place. i understand. |
| 01:39.01 | djc_ | oh crap. |
| 01:39.15 | djc_ | i forgot to backup spandsp 0.0.2.. and the old asterisk seems to crash with 0.0.3 |
| 01:39.18 | djc_ | with rx_fax |
| 01:39.19 | djc_ | anyway |
| 01:39.20 | djc_ | FUCK |
| 01:39.31 | djc_ | sigh |
| 01:40.17 | lunaphyte | sbingner: thanks. |
| 01:40.23 | sbingner | you can still download it... |
| 01:40.40 | djc_ | need freebsd port or package |
| 01:40.59 | sbingner | you can't compile source? |
| 01:41.14 | sbingner | anyway there was no significant changes just between 0.0.2 and 0.0.3 ... I just asked coppice when it was going to change from -pre ... so he changed it |
| 01:41.17 | djc_ | i hate having stuff installed thats not part of the package manager |
| 01:41.17 | sbingner | lol |
| 01:41.25 | sbingner | so make the package too |
| 01:41.43 | djc_ | well whatever the difference its enough to cause * 1.2.13 to crash when rxfax is called |
| 01:41.48 | lunaphyte | jblack, djc_, drmessano : thanks for the chat, and the info. |
| 01:42.01 | sbingner | yea just saying it's probably not just 0.0.2/0.0.3 ... probably some other specific revision |
| 01:42.17 | sbingner | -preN |
| 01:42.55 | djc_ | 1.2.13 was working, with 0.0.2.. i backup up 1.2.13, uninstalled it, compiled 1.4.17 installed it.. dorked around trying to get fax to work with 1.4.14, gave up, uninstalled it, reinstalled 1.2.13 from the backup.. now 1.2.13 rxfax crashes |
| 01:43.12 | djc_ | part of trying to get fax to work with 1.4.17 was bumping spandsp |
| 01:43.23 | djc_ | whatever the freebsd port was |
| 01:43.55 | djc_ | so now rather than a working system that just didnt have the ability to detect fax tones or the lack thereof on a call, now I have no working fax at all.. sigh |
| 01:45.02 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:45.07 | drmessano | I know the feeling |
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| 01:50.41 | CrashSys | Does MixMonitor set ${MONITOR} to true if the channel is being monitored? |
| 01:52.02 | djc_ | I guess what I need to find, is an app_rxfax for asterisk 1.4 that you just add to the source tree of asterisk like I did with 1.2, instead of this seperate beast that uses cmake |
| 01:52.11 | djc_ | or at least I think thats what I did |
| 01:52.44 | djc_ | maybe I didnt.. who knwos |
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| 02:15.14 | jblack | I suppose I can recover mercury now |
| 02:15.45 | rhombus | what might cause high sip qualification latency on a connection that is apparently otherwise fine? |
| 02:16.14 | jblack | a nasty route between you and the other end of the sip call. |
| 02:16.42 | jblack | be back in 5.. I hope |
| 02:16.48 | rhombus | jblack: well, I'm talking about the qualification between two peers |
| 02:17.03 | rhombus | route has two hops. |
| 02:19.12 | jblack | I'm not really interested throwing out possible causes, to be countered one at a time by previously unmentioned details. |
| 02:19.19 | jblack | Please cough up all the details |
| 02:20.32 | jblack | after I come back |
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| 02:38.55 | djc_ | well i seem to have gotten fax working but somehow the mysql client libs on my system broke or got unhooked. |
| 02:39.03 | djc_ | so now the mta wont run since its linked to sql |
| 02:39.11 | djc_ | sow now ive got to reinstall sql |
| 02:39.13 | djc_ | BAH |
| 02:39.41 | Nugget | heh |
| 02:45.43 | Qwell | moral of the story? don't use BSD |
| 02:45.50 | CrashSys | anyone know how I can change the last modified date on a file? |
| 02:45.58 | Qwell | CrashSys: touch it |
| 02:46.08 | CrashSys | that sounds dirty |
| 02:46.24 | denon | Qwell: moral of the story, learn to use bsd properly? :) |
| 02:46.41 | rhombus | I have high SIP qualify latency between two peers that are one hop apart. The connection seems to be good otherwise (fast ping times, quick ssh logins). What might be causing this? |
| 02:47.00 | denon | linux package management all kind of sucks too .. the other day I was trying to install alien on debian, and it told me it wanted to remove my compilers, remove my kernel image, upgrade me to 2.6, and blew away half my mysql stuff |
| 02:47.06 | denon | tell me again, why would it need to touch any of that stuff? ;) |
| 02:47.09 | UnixDog | but what determines properly |
| 02:47.18 | Qwell | denon: gentoo++ |
| 02:47.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell, ... RICER |
| 02:47.35 | denon | wouldnt matter, every package management system is borked |
| 02:47.38 | denon | an OS is only as good as it's user |
| 02:47.46 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: nah, not even. the package management in gentoo is pretty awesome |
| 02:48.07 | CrashSys | THanks qwell |
| 02:48.08 | Qwell | denon: see above, regarding your own comment. |
| 02:48.09 | UnixDog | qwell just because your a linux person does not mean BSD is the wrong os to use |
| 02:48.14 | Qwell | denon: are you saying you're a nub? :P |
| 02:48.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Slackware : Running software the way the AUTHORS intended. |
| 02:48.37 | UnixDog | the fact ois bsd has been around longer then linux and is a more mature os |
| 02:48.39 | Qwell | UnixDog: let me know when BSD follows some important standards correctly. |
| 02:48.56 | UnixDog | linux it the one not fallowing standards |
| 02:49.03 | Qwell | BSD is not a standard |
| 02:49.05 | rhombus | [TK]D-Fender: I'm pretty sure a compile from source is running the software the way the authors intended. |
| 02:49.07 | UnixDog | bsd has been a standard |
| 02:49.26 | Qwell | calling it one doesn't make it true |
| 02:49.29 | [TK]D-Fender | rhombus, yes, and on slacware that what I do :) |
| 02:49.39 | UnixDog | linux is the os that choose not to fallow userland rules |
| 02:49.42 | CrashSys | I like my slack... |
| 02:49.43 | [TK]D-Fender | rhombus, mysql, apahce, *, the works :) |
| 02:49.55 | rhombus | I thought Slackware was dead. |
| 02:50.05 | Qwell | rhombus: more or less |
| 02:50.07 | [TK]D-Fender | rhombus, nope |
| 02:50.10 | rhombus | I last ran Slackware in 1999. |
| 02:50.16 | CrashSys | I like Slack and OBSD... |
| 02:50.39 | rhombus | of course, this is an asterisk channel. |
| 02:50.41 | rhombus | :) |
| 02:50.43 | Qwell | I never "got" slackware |
| 02:51.01 | rhombus | What makes for high SIP qualify times, if the network latency is low? |
| 02:51.13 | [TK]D-Fender | rhombus, Super slow SIP client |
| 02:51.18 | djc_ | no, its just a problem with a bunch of different authors that all use software in different ways on different systems that themselves all have different authors that work in different ways.. add in the fact that much of the software we *nix types use is under heavy development and changes frequently, and the fact that sometimes the libraries they depends on are also under development, and that packagers of platforms may not necesarrily have the latest and gr |
| 02:51.18 | djc_ | eatest versions of everything, and you have choas.. |
| 02:51.19 | djc_ | but |
| 02:51.31 | djc_ | being a *nix user, one knows how to deal with it, and should expect it |
| 02:51.33 | [TK]D-Fender | rhombus, Look at polycom phones... their qualify is very disproportionate due to its stack. |
| 02:51.37 | UnixDog | it gives them all a bad name |
| 02:51.41 | rhombus | [TK]D-Fender: In this case it's two Asterisk servers. |
| 02:51.43 | CrashSys | well I like slack because things compile and work... there are no funky work-around like with redhat or suse or etc... |
| 02:51.46 | djc_ | even if we groan and complain about it becuase it takes more time than we expected |
| 02:51.54 | UnixDog | because no one will every fully agree about any os |
| 02:51.56 | djc_ | moral of the story - dont tweak with a production machine ;) |
| 02:52.11 | djc_ | which I broke.. luckily,, the only 'customers' are myself and my family |
| 02:53.11 | djc_ | oh, and the other moral - for a project you expect to take about 30 minutes, budget about 5 hours for it ;) |
| 02:53.32 | djc_ | then if it only takes an hour, you can spend 4 hours.. well.. doing something else |
| 02:59.33 | djc_ | ok.. mysql-client is reinstalled.. so now when a fax comes in the agi script can conver it to pdf and send an email |
| 03:00.04 | djc_ | hallelujah.. testing.. |
| 03:01.32 | djc_ | hrm.. faxing is apparently only working intermittently |
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| 03:02.28 | djc_ | i wonder if maybe the chan was trying to use gsm insteald of a/ulaw |
| 03:02.42 | djc_ | just disallowed it.. |
| 03:02.44 | djc_ | will try again |
| 03:03.31 | Iamnacho | if you start answering yourself.... that's when you have a problem..... |
| 03:04.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Iamnacho, No, the real trouble starts when you get into arguments with yourself... and then proceed to LOSE. |
| 03:05.01 | Iamnacho | LOL |
| 03:05.07 | Iamnacho | true |
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| 03:09.46 | Yourname` | Who else hates OCN/LATA based billing? |
| 03:13.04 | Yourname` | I effin hate it. |
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| 03:13.15 | Yourname` | Someone should have a friggin converter to convert all OCN/LATA based ratedecks to NPA/NXXs. :( |
| 03:14.24 | CrashSys | I want an asterisk plug-in for webmin :) |
| 03:14.34 | CrashSys | cause i'm too lazy to configure sip clients via VI anymore |
| 03:14.34 | Yourname` | I think there was one. |
| 03:15.05 | CrashSys | Plus it makes all the M$ and IT people happy when they can use a mouse |
| 03:16.03 | x86 | how do you do split windows with screen? |
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| 03:16.14 | Yourname` | Ctrl+A + C |
| 03:16.21 | Yourname` | If that's what you mean by 'split'. |
| 03:16.36 | Nugget | screen is doubleplusawesome. |
| 03:16.45 | x86 | Yourname`: no, that makes a new window |
| 03:16.57 | x86 | Yourname`: you can have multiple windows inside one screen |
| 03:17.07 | x86 | effectively sharing too terminals in a single screen |
| 03:17.13 | Yourname` | You mean 'switch' between those windows? |
| 03:17.14 | x86 | not sure how tho |
| 03:17.16 | x86 | no |
| 03:17.23 | CrashSys | splitscreen |
| 03:17.27 | x86 | i mean display them both on the screen... split-screen style |
| 03:17.32 | CrashSys | like what you see on an x-box when two people play on one screen |
| 03:17.33 | Yourname` | AAAH!! |
| 03:17.39 | x86 | indeed |
| 03:17.41 | x86 | how to? |
| 03:17.42 | x86 | :P |
| 03:17.46 | Yourname` | I think I did Ctrl + A + S? |
| 03:18.34 | x86 | that turns on scroll lock |
| 03:18.38 | x86 | nub |
| 03:18.40 | Yourname` | Or was it shift+S? |
| 03:18.50 | Yourname` | lol, I dont remember when the last time I used it. |
| 03:18.54 | x86 | CTRL-A-s |
| 03:18.59 | Yourname` | Try Ctrl+A and then Sft + S |
| 03:19.07 | husimon | or open another screen |
| 03:19.09 | husimon | ... |
| 03:19.36 | Yourname` | Worked? |
| 03:20.46 | husimon | yeah it's ctrl a + S |
| 03:20.54 | husimon | which is ctrl + a + shift + s |
| 03:21.22 | Yourname` | One of those, lol.. I need to start doing funny things to remember all this, I guess. :S |
| 03:21.38 | husimon | shrug google knows the answer |
| 03:21.47 | husimon | no reason to fill your brain with useless facts :P |
| 03:22.03 | husimon | now how about cascading screens inside of split screens |
| 03:22.06 | husimon | AHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 03:22.30 | husimon | interesting you can split it as many times as you want |
| 03:22.35 | Yourname` | What when Google hits rockbottom? |
| 03:22.35 | Yourname` | lol |
| 03:22.48 | husimon | then use the next google |
| 03:24.24 | husimon | how clever |
| 03:24.24 | husimon | ctrl +a + s freezes the terminal |
| 03:24.25 | husimon | ctrl + a + S splits it |
| 03:24.25 | husimon | good use of shortcuts there mr developer :P |
| 03:24.25 | husimon | i'm out. |
| 03:28.06 | *** join/#asterisk lately (n=lately@c211-30-79-81.blktn4.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:29.27 | CrashSys | anyone know a quick way to convert callerid into a filename-safe version? I.E. remove the special characters and underscore spaces? |
| 03:32.55 | *** join/#asterisk LancerZ (n=Anon@CPE-72-135-235-232.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 03:33.55 | LancerZ | Hey everyone. I have a question that I can't find a solid answer to. I have asterisk and 2 different types of vo-ip phones. I basically need to know if there is a config file for downloading off ftp server. |
| 03:40.08 | *** join/#asterisk jblack (n=jblack@pool-71-173-53-239.sctnpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:41.25 | drmessano | Still toast, jblack? |
| 03:41.56 | jblack | All better. |
| 03:42.03 | jblack | The problem multiplied, of course. |
| 03:42.15 | jblack | Ubuntu decided to change drive id referencing _AGAIN_ |
| 03:42.52 | jblack | For some reason, the system didn't want to boot without a root filesystem, which led to a hunt from a cdrom... and a drive to put it in. =) |
| 03:46.50 | LancerZ | From what I can tell you need a config file for the server and per phone if you are trying to do it ftp, can someone confirm this? |
| 03:46.55 | jblack | and of course the filesystems had to fsck. It's like they _know_ when I go to singleuser mode |
| 03:47.47 | *** join/#asterisk queuetue (n=scott@bas3-montreal02-1096691444.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 03:48.59 | djc_ | well, receivjng a fax appears to have worked, with 1.4.17, once, but I cant seem to get it t work now |
| 03:49.27 | djc_ | i found a freebsd port of the agx addon package |
| 03:49.50 | *** join/#asterisk jameswf-home (n=james@ip72-204-221-181.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:50.44 | djc_ | now rxfax runs for a bit, and then just disappears.. no error (debug =255 and verbose=255) displayed, it never gets to the next entry in the dialplan, just poof, the channel is gone |
| 03:51.16 | djc_ | and no tiff file in the spooldir either |
| 03:51.39 | queuetue | Can anyone recommend an * hosting provider? We're growing beyond the capacity of the vhosted server we've been using for a few years now, and I'd like to find a trustworthy turnkey provider that I can just port my numbers to. |
| 03:51.48 | jblack | djc_: Sure. End of call. |
| 03:52.07 | djc_ | yeah but it never logs that the call ended even |
| 03:52.50 | [TK]D-Fender | LancerZ, You say that as though all "VoIP phones" need some sort of config file distributed via TFTP. I can assure you there very few force you to provision them and its nice to see you reiterate your question without bothering to tell us WHICH phones you have. |
| 03:52.51 | djc_ | i wonder how it worked once then not again |
| 03:53.25 | plik | my pesky cisco needs tftp to configure and its a right pain :/ |
| 03:53.42 | *** join/#asterisk dkatz334 (n=guest@h-72-245-152-13.nycmny83.covad.net) |
| 03:53.50 | djc_ | that would be one of the few |
| 03:54.09 | djc_ | an org i know uses them, they work, but ive heard mention about them being a pain |
| 03:54.57 | djc_ | t.38 doesnt interrelate with spandsp/rxfax at all, does it? or is it just if you are relaying via an ata to an actual fax machine? |
| 03:55.26 | lmadsen | hi! |
| 03:56.47 | lmadsen | from what I can tell, T.38 is just used with passthrough for devices on both end who can speak T.38 |
| 03:57.06 | lmadsen | Asterisk doesn't really have anything to do with the transmission other than to understand that you want to speak t.38 to the other end |
| 03:57.42 | jblack | oh man. creepy |
| 03:57.46 | lmadsen | yes I am |
| 03:57.54 | plik | heh |
| 03:58.05 | queuetue | Wow, Digium's Asterisk Appliances seem pricey. Are they pretty decent (and open)? |
| 03:58.06 | jblack | seriously, this is creepy. |
| 03:58.21 | lmadsen | jblack: ? |
| 03:58.24 | jblack | I've had a lot of calls go through lately that are of really short length. |
| 03:58.33 | lmadsen | jblack: don't tell the girls |
| 03:58.43 | jblack | So, I monitored to see what's going on with them. |
| 03:59.06 | *** join/#asterisk BeeBuu (n=beebuu@125.95.28.135) |
| 03:59.17 | jblack | people calling out are -disgusting- while the phone is ringing |
| 03:59.43 | lmadsen | oh baby oh baby touch me |
| 03:59.44 | lmadsen | kinda like that? |
| 03:59.51 | BeeBuu | is there any device can let my mobile phone connect to * ？ |
| 03:59.58 | jblack | more like... eating and stuff. |
| 04:00.04 | lmadsen | BeeBuu: like.... how? |
| 04:00.09 | lmadsen | BeeBuu: you can use bluetooth |
| 04:00.33 | lmadsen | :) |
| 04:00.46 | lmadsen | jblack: I guess most people don't figure anyone is listening to them while the phone is ringing |
| 04:00.50 | BeeBuu | i need connect my cell phone to the asterisk system,can i? |
| 04:01.06 | lmadsen | BeeBuu: yes... via bluetooth |
| 04:01.32 | jblack | which ensures that nobody wants to listen to them while the phone is ringing. |
| 04:01.45 | jblack | Anyways, problem solved. The calls are short because nobody's answering the phone |
| 04:01.48 | BeeBuu | would you tell me how to do that ? and with which device? |
| 04:01.48 | lmadsen | I try to swear as much as possible while the phone is ringing |
| 04:02.03 | lmadsen | BeeBuu: use a bluetooth USB adapter and I chan_mobile |
| 04:02.07 | lmadsen | (or whatever it's called now) |
| 04:02.26 | BeeBuu | bluetooth USB adapter? |
| 04:02.36 | plik | or with one of those nokias that has wifi and supports voip |
| 04:02.43 | lmadsen | BeeBuu: is there an echo in here? |
| 04:02.56 | BeeBuu | plik: any URL,please? |
| 04:03.03 | lmadsen | plik: like my E61i? works great |
| 04:03.16 | marc7 | hey guys, still trying to find the source of these terrible stutter problems with the ringing on my asterisk installation. can anyone suggest what might be the problem? |
| 04:03.25 | lmadsen | BeeBuu: you shouldn't start with that then... it's kind of a more advanced topic |
| 04:03.31 | BeeBuu | lmadsen: thanks for your help. |
| 04:03.43 | lmadsen | marc7: lack of bandwidth? |
| 04:03.46 | djc_ | well just for grins I am recompiling spandsp |
| 04:03.55 | djc_ | probably wont help |
| 04:04.05 | plik | BeeBuu: http://www.coms.com/wifi-mobiles.html |
| 04:04.12 | djc_ | i think if it doesnt work after that i'll busy out the fax # and give it up for tonight |
| 04:04.33 | plik | but if you don't want to get a new mobile, bluetooth is the way forward.... |
| 04:04.38 | marc7 | lmadsen: box is on a 100mbps link in a datacenter, only problem is when I am ringing another party... and when I'm playing MusicOnHold in order to connect to someone (not if I place the call on hold after they've picked up) |
| 04:04.59 | lmadsen | still sounds like a network problem, or a lack of CPU power |
| 04:04.59 | plik | have * automatically forward you calls to mobile when you go out of range :) |
| 04:05.01 | djc_ | BeeBuu, connect it in what way? do you want your * to be able to make calls via your cell carrier? or do you want your cell to connect to * to make calls instead of via your carrier? |
| 04:05.22 | djc_ | or, have your * call your cell * over voip or pstn when a call comes in from somewhere else? |
| 04:05.25 | marc7 | lmadsen: 2.8GHz P4 processor, asterisk is it's only task |
| 04:05.28 | djc_ | cell # |
| 04:05.37 | lmadsen | going via an upstream provider? |
| 04:06.01 | lmadsen | I've never had to "debug" an issue like that if the network is pristine, the CPU isn't over 50%, etc... |
| 04:06.07 | marc7 | lmadsen: we have two origination/termination providers.. happens when we use either of them. |
| 04:06.11 | lmadsen | it won't be an asterisk problem most likely |
| 04:06.15 | plik | djc_: could still get expensive? |
| 04:06.17 | marc7 | lmadsen: possibly zaptel? |
| 04:06.22 | djc_ | plik, eh? |
| 04:06.23 | lmadsen | doubt it |
| 04:06.45 | marc7 | lmadsen: results of zttest after 58 passes: Best: 99.981 -- Worst: 99.931 -- Average: 99.955583 // is that indicative of a problem |
| 04:06.48 | jblack | djc_: You're still doing the fax thing? |
| 04:06.54 | lmadsen | doublt it |
| 04:06.57 | plik | ah, I'm in uk - all mobile are chargeable to call |
| 04:07.02 | jblack | Well, trying to, anyways? |
| 04:07.06 | plik | much higher rates than normal |
| 04:07.09 | lmadsen | 99.981 seems like a pretty good percentage |
| 04:07.19 | djc_ | jblack, yeah.. i got 1.4.17 close to working |
| 04:07.25 | plik | haven't yet found a voip provider than does them freee :/ |
| 04:07.27 | lmadsen | ya, you don't get "flat rate" in europe |
| 04:07.29 | djc_ | its not crashing, and it received a fax successfully *once* |
| 04:07.42 | djc_ | but I cant get it to do it again |
| 04:07.46 | jblack | djc_: This is over sip, right? |
| 04:07.48 | marc7 | lmadsen: there's no hardware in the box to help handle timing, I'm about to go to the datacenter to plug in an FX0 card if it will help with the timing issue at all, I was playing around with HPET / High-Performance Kernel Timers... not to any avail. |
| 04:07.49 | djc_ | ya |
| 04:07.56 | jblack | djc_: Are you doing traffic shaping? |
| 04:08.01 | lmadsen | marc7: OH! you better have ztdummy loaded then |
| 04:08.03 | djc_ | if I could switch to iax, would that be more reliable? |
| 04:08.16 | djc_ | box isnt doing much else.. network isnt mine |
| 04:08.16 | marc7 | lmadsen: I do have ztdummy and zaptel loaded as modules |
| 04:08.30 | BeeBuu | djc_: i want to make * able answer my cell phone ,would you teach me ? |
| 04:08.34 | marc7 | lmadsen: I'm going insane :( |
| 04:08.35 | lmadsen | I don't know what the issue will be then... I've had fine success with CentOS + ztdummy + asterisk 1.4.x |
| 04:08.41 | CrashSys | Is there a way to do a pattern replacement in extensions.conf? I want to use caller-ID as part of a file name, but I need it to strip out everything but just alpha-numeric characters (cause of windoze)... |
| 04:08.44 | jblack | I know that losing just a handful of packets here and there will play havoc with faxes. |
| 04:08.45 | djc_ | wait.. arg.. ive got two mpg123's maxed out.. stupid music on hold crap |
| 04:08.56 | djc_ | lemme kill those |
| 04:08.58 | jblack | BeeBuu: You partially can. |
| 04:09.01 | lmadsen | CrashSys: ${REGEX()} functoin? |
| 04:09.10 | CrashSys | Ahhhhhhh |
| 04:09.16 | CrashSys | gracias |
| 04:09.17 | jblack | BeeBuu: Look at enum. That'll catch a handful of places that will look up your * server and route the call directly. |
| 04:09.23 | lmadsen | CrashSys: np |
| 04:09.32 | plik | CrashSys: or sed... |
| 04:09.43 | marc7 | only difference is Debian Etch instead of CentOS... compiling asterisk and zaptel myself... the ONLY THING it might be is when I'm finishing the final stages of compiling asterisk, it generates the ringtones appropriate for my region... and maybe the zaptel/ztdummy drivers weren't available during the generation of those sound bytes |
| 04:09.57 | jblack | BeeBuu: Also, look at the forwarding that comes with your cellphone. |
| 04:10.09 | BeeBuu | jblack: please,teach me how。。。 |
| 04:10.19 | djc_ | of course, you want to have a woroking * setup first |
| 04:10.20 | lmadsen | marc7: possible -- I'm in north america, so I don't have to deal with crazy ring tones |
| 04:10.27 | marc7 | lmadsen: so are we :D |
| 04:10.34 | djc_ | BeeBuu, of course, you want to have a woroking * setup first |
| 04:10.35 | lmadsen | there is no reason it shouldn't work |
| 04:10.51 | BeeBuu | djc_: i had done that. |
| 04:10.53 | djc_ | with connectivity either via a phone-line card (eg zaptel) or voip |
| 04:10.56 | jblack | BeeBuu: I can't buddy. You'll have to ask your cellphone company how to forward calls. |
| 04:11.15 | marc7 | lmadsen: I know! If given a minute or two, I can give you a toll free phone number you can call to test so you can see the problem I'm running into. |
| 04:11.20 | marc7 | oh that sucks |
| 04:11.27 | BeeBuu | jblack:only that way? |
| 04:11.37 | jblack | Often it's something like *## ### ### #### whre the first 2 #s are the forward code and the rest are the number to forward to. |
| 04:11.45 | djc_ | BeeBuu, well how do you imagine it working? |
| 04:11.49 | CrashSys | Well, regex just tells me if the expression matches, not removes the offending items... *looks at sed* |
| 04:11.54 | BeeBuu | djc_: i had a * server now |
| 04:11.58 | jblack | BeeBuu: Well... If you're willing to cancel cell phone service, you can port the number to some ITSPs |
| 04:12.01 | djc_ | you want to physically connect a wire between your cell and your * box? |
| 04:12.08 | jblack | That'll usually run you $20-$40 in the US |
| 04:12.21 | BeeBuu | djc_: yes，that's what i need! |
| 04:12.22 | djc_ | you want it to answer always, or only sometimes? |
| 04:12.34 | BeeBuu | always |
| 04:12.57 | djc_ | well, i beleive there are rather expensive adapters that you can connect to *some* cellphones, that let them work with standard phone line connectors.. then you'd need something like a zaptel |
| 04:13.04 | djc_ | do you not want to use it as a cell anymore? |
| 04:13.06 | BeeBuu | jblack: foward call will waist my $ :-P |
| 04:13.11 | plik | CrashSys: open log in vim , :s/\ /_/g will do spaces to underscores... |
| 04:13.33 | BeeBuu | djc_: ya. |
| 04:13.38 | jblack | beebuu: I don't know whether or not china allows number porting. |
| 04:13.40 | djc_ | if you want people who call your cell # to always get your asterisk, then your best solution is just to port the number to a voip did provider and route it directly to your * box over voip |
| 04:13.41 | CrashSys | hmm, filter looks liek a winner... |
| 04:14.13 | plik | you can put the other chars you want stripped or replcaed between [] so :s/[*&@]//g will just strip them |
| 04:14.22 | BeeBuu | jblack: what's number porting mean? |
| 04:14.30 | jblack | BeeBuu: What you can do varies upon the cellular company you're using, and what they offer varies greatly between companies in different countries. |
| 04:14.48 | djc_ | http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/NumberPortability/#whatis |
| 04:14.56 | jblack | BeeBuu: In the US, one can get new service and have the new service take the number over from the old service. |
| 04:15.07 | jblack | but that won't do you any good in China |
| 04:15.11 | djc_ | ok, i trying fax one last time then going to bed |
| 04:15.25 | BeeBuu | jblack: not work in heere :-( |
| 04:15.37 | jblack | BeeBuu: That what's I said. |
| 04:15.57 | jblack | BeeBuu: i have no idea what you can or can't do with your company in your country. I really just don't know. I'm clueless. |
| 04:16.34 | BeeBuu | no any adapter can connect cell to *? |
| 04:16.45 | djc_ | damn expensive |
| 04:16.49 | djc_ | the adapters, that is |
| 04:16.54 | djc_ | if you can even find one |
| 04:16.55 | jblack | It's not impossible, but that would depend upon your cell phone's capabilities. |
| 04:16.58 | djc_ | and its not a * adapter |
| 04:17.17 | jblack | BeeBuu: We really can't help you with what you want here. We just know the PBX side of things. |
| 04:17.25 | marc7 | okay, the only person who was even remotely interested in my "weird ringing problem" has gone to sleep.... is anybody able to suggest *anything* to try? again, the symptom is terrible audio feedback when a remote party is ringing.... regardless of whether or not the ring tones are being played, or when they're in a queue with MusicOnHold |
| 04:17.29 | djc_ | its an adapter that lets you use the cell like a phone line, you could plug an ordinary phone in.. then with an appropriate card in your * box, you could connect phone wire between them |
| 04:17.44 | jblack | marc7: Crap phone? |
| 04:17.55 | BeeBuu | djc_: yes,that's great adapter what i want. |
| 04:17.58 | djc_ | but its an awkward and expensive way.. assuming you could even find one of those adapters for your phone |
| 04:18.06 | marc7 | jblack: cisco 7960's with SIP firmware, and any regular land-line phone over the PSTN calling in |
| 04:18.19 | jblack | msg me your number? |
| 04:18.25 | djc_ | and you'd have to shop around at cell equipment sellers to see if one exists.. have your phone make/model handy |
| 04:18.40 | plik | marc7: what version of sip firmware you using? |
| 04:18.43 | djc_ | called an RJ-11 adapter, fyi |
| 04:18.58 | djc_ | then you still need a phone line card for your * box |
| 04:19.04 | djc_ | zaptel is popular |
| 04:19.11 | BeeBuu | djc_: is there anything like that as you know? |
| 04:19.19 | jblack | marc7: Or don't. It's up to you. I might get a hint of what's up if I hear it though. |
| 04:19.28 | djc_ | they exists.. you'd have to contact vendors of cell phone accessories |
| 04:19.39 | djc_ | they are specific to your phone make/model |
| 04:19.53 | djc_ | they arent universal/generic |
| 04:20.13 | BeeBuu | i got it.thanks djc_ & jblack. |
| 04:20.16 | djc_ | and they are expensive and hard to find. i'd have no idea where to tell you to look |
| 04:20.17 | marc7 | plik: on the 7960's? 8.8... and 8.3.3 on the 7970's |
| 04:20.26 | djc_ | start with whatever co you got the phone from |
| 04:20.30 | jblack | djc_: btw, his whois say's he's in china. |
| 04:20.38 | djc_ | shrug |
| 04:20.39 | marc7 | jblack: sure, I'll setup a test instance. |
| 04:20.42 | BeeBuu | me |
| 04:20.44 | BeeBuu | :-D |
| 04:21.05 | jblack | I'd be happy like you, if I could eat chinese food 3 times a day, 7 days a week. |
| 04:21.15 | plik | oh I've jjst got a 7940 on 6.3 which I was going to upgrade, but I might not if its that bad... |
| 04:21.17 | BeeBuu | hahaha~~~~ |
| 04:21.42 | plik | just need to fix my damned configs so it'll ring... |
| 04:21.46 | *** join/#asterisk Patrickz_ (n=patrickz@61-90-163-149.static.asianet.co.th) |
| 04:21.47 | djc_ | ok, nogo on fax.. sigh.. |
| 04:21.48 | BeeBuu | in fact ,i got 5 times eat |
| 04:21.54 | marc7 | plik: I doubt the phones are the problem. |
| 04:22.03 | Patrickz_ | Hello all |
| 04:22.11 | marc7 | plik: it's fine most of the time.... just not the rest. |
| 04:22.11 | plik | ah, tru maybe |
| 04:22.16 | plik | well good luck |
| 04:22.19 | marc7 | plik: thanks |
| 04:22.35 | jblack | plik: do a ls -ald /etc/asterisk/indications.conf for me? |
| 04:22.58 | Patrickz_ | anyone have ever mount /var/spool/asterisk/viocemail to another server? |
| 04:23.04 | plik | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25059 Jun 19 2007 /etc/asterisk/indications.conf |
| 04:23.13 | plik | wossat for? |
| 04:23.18 | jblack | plik: (Unless I misunderstood, you are having a problem with no ringing) |
| 04:23.27 | jblack | Wait. Incoming, or outgoing. |
| 04:23.44 | plik | calling the cisco extn just goes to voicemail |
| 04:23.57 | plik | can call other exts ok, but not out |
| 04:24.05 | jblack | Ohh. So it's not a no-ringing problem, it's a no answer problem. |
| 04:24.22 | jblack | if you set verbose 10 and debug 10, you should see a complaint that it tried to call the phone, but it wasn't there. |
| 04:24.30 | jblack | Also, check sip show peers, and see if the cisco is logged in at all. |
| 04:24.48 | plik | have a poxy grandstream, and a softphone, and putting 'asterisk in the realm seemed to fix everyting but the cisco doesn't seem to have an option for that |
| 04:25.00 | plik | ok thanks, will have a look |
| 04:25.01 | Patrickz_ | if anyone have some exp. with /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail, pls message me |
| 04:25.04 | jblack | Oh, hold up |
| 04:25.23 | jblack | realm... Yeah. I never could make that work... people smarter than I don't know how to make it work either. |
| 04:25.49 | jblack | your problem might go away if you just don't use the realm stuff at all. |
| 04:25.52 | jblack | for anything |
| 04:26.52 | plik | well, i left as default...had a similar situation with the other phones |
| 04:26.52 | plik | filling in that made them all work nicely |
| 04:26.55 | plik | the error i get is :Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 3 - No route to destination) |
| 04:27.13 | plik | which was the same prob as before , until that fixed it |
| 04:27.20 | jblack | That's a cascade error. |
| 04:27.40 | jblack | The original error will be earlier. |
| 04:27.51 | plik | ah ... |
| 04:28.15 | *** part/#asterisk methods (n=daquino@c-68-36-237-152.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 04:28.28 | jblack | Look for an earlier one.. somewhere, you'll have a 404, or a failure to authenticate.. or the phone's just not logged in at all. |
| 04:28.35 | jblack | sip show peers will tell you if the phone is logged in |
| 04:29.36 | plik | hmmm,,, doesn't look like it - Unspecified, unmonitored |
| 04:30.01 | plik | the others show up with their IP |
| 04:30.38 | plik | tbh, I'm pretty tired now, and am gonna have another go with a fresh head tomorrow / later |
| 04:30.46 | jblack | Well, now you know the problem |
| 04:30.50 | plik | but thabks for your help so far anyway |
| 04:30.59 | jblack | at least where to jump on it. failure to login |
| 04:31.17 | plik | yeah, cheers & goodnight |
| 04:33.04 | jblack | woot. I got my les.net chargeback |
| 04:33.54 | CrashSys | if I have _* and then _*1XX as patterns, and someone dials *101, it will be picked up by the _*1XX pattern right? |
| 04:41.26 | *** join/#asterisk tobias (n=tobias@user-0ce2hr3.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:43.14 | drmessano | lol jblack |
| 04:49.00 | sbingner | CrashSys, maybe |
| 04:49.12 | sbingner | er, yea it will |
| 04:49.13 | CrashSys | Nevermind, fixed it... |
| 04:49.19 | CrashSys | _* = wait for timeout... |
| 04:49.43 | CrashSys | I modified the pattern for _*10Z and _1ZX and had _*100 do my all-phone paging |
| 04:49.54 | sbingner | it matches whichever is in the list first, but it will wait if there are possibly more options |
| 04:50.15 | CrashSys | _*100 = page all phones, the rest are to intercom individual extensions |
| 04:52.08 | *** join/#asterisk BBHoss (n=hoss@c-71-207-173-38.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 04:52.35 | BBHoss | hey guys is there a variable that gives date, or a function? |
| 04:52.55 | BBHoss | im trying to record and add a date and time on the end |
| 04:53.04 | queuetue | Can anyone recommend an * hosting provider? |
| 04:53.19 | BBHoss | queuetue: hosting provider or itsp? |
| 04:54.43 | De_Mon | why the _ in _*100 ? |
| 04:54.52 | queuetue | BBHoss, I don't know what an itsp is. :) |
| 04:55.06 | De_Mon | wait what wait for timeout? |
| 04:55.10 | BBHoss | you want voip service? |
| 04:55.32 | queuetue | BBHoss, I'm using voicepulse connect already to provide termination, I just want someone to manage the box for me. |
| 04:55.44 | BBHoss | oh someONE |
| 04:56.01 | BBHoss | what do you mean by manage |
| 04:56.05 | queuetue | BBHoss, well, some organization, not to hire an individual. |
| 04:56.33 | BBHoss | just keep packages up to date or to manage adding/removing extensions etc? |
| 04:57.01 | queuetue | BBHoss, Just hardware, network and packages. I'll do pbx config myself. |
| 04:57.21 | BBHoss | i guess you could just hire a normal sysadmin firm |
| 04:58.27 | queuetue | Yeah, that' snot what I'm looking for. I can do sysadmin myself, I was hoping to find a hosting provider that already had asterisk knowledge. I'm using aretta now, which is ok, but I think they are having bandwidth problems. |
| 05:00.36 | *** part/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=Joe@64.235.216.2) |
| 05:03.35 | queuetue | f |
| 05:03.45 | queuetue | Oops, misfire. :) |
| 05:05.35 | *** join/#asterisk Snake-eyes (n=hgjg@70.55.220.203.static.comindico.com.au) |
| 05:05.42 | marc7 | jblack: you still there? |
| 05:06.25 | *** part/#asterisk queuetue (n=scott@bas3-montreal02-1096691444.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 05:09.48 | jblack | marc7: yeah |
| 05:10.04 | marc7 | jblack: http://pastebin.com/d339b41a2 |
| 05:10.05 | jblack | I went out for a late dinner. |
| 05:10.11 | marc7 | no worries! |
| 05:10.16 | marc7 | [Distribution] comes right in from our SIP peer |
| 05:10.26 | jblack | I would say that's a small snippet of your dialplan.conf |
| 05:10.29 | marc7 | that is! |
| 05:10.40 | marc7 | so.. basically as simple as it gets... either Dial or Queue |
| 05:10.47 | marc7 | try giving that number a call |
| 05:11.03 | jblack | ok |
| 05:11.06 | marc7 | nobody will pick up, just listen and enjoy the wrecked ringing and hold music |
| 05:11.41 | jblack | 1 to dial directly or 2 to enter a que command |
| 05:11.50 | jblack | sounded ok to me |
| 05:11.54 | Patrickz_ | anyone can help me? my problem on http://www.trixbox.org/forums/trixbox-forums/open-discussion/it-possible-mount-var-spool-asterisk-voicemail-another-server |
| 05:11.56 | marc7 | no no, push one of those options. |
| 05:12.22 | CrashSys | damn I love my polycom's... |
| 05:12.28 | jblack | ring ring ring |
| 05:12.41 | marc7 | jblack: does that sound normal / sane? |
| 05:12.59 | jblack | huh. I'm getting intermittant rings to your line. |
| 05:13.03 | CrashSys | Everything is sane until instructued otherwise... |
| 05:13.26 | marc7 | jblack: exactly! music from a Queue() will cut in and out sporadically |
| 05:13.35 | marc7 | it's the beign of my existance!!!!11one |
| 05:13.40 | jblack | Ok. Try this. |
| 05:13.45 | jblack | exten => 1,1,Answer() |
| 05:13.52 | jblack | exten => 1,n,wait(1) |
| 05:14.00 | jblack | dont' forget to change the dial to n as well. |
| 05:14.06 | jblack | then reload your extensions, and I'll call again |
| 05:14.29 | jblack | (this is for the 1 extension in calltest) |
| 05:14.34 | marc7 | *nod* |
| 05:14.53 | marc7 | changed |
| 05:15.15 | jblack | reloaded? |
| 05:15.20 | marc7 | yep |
| 05:15.22 | jblack | calling |
| 05:15.46 | marc7 | ringing |
| 05:15.54 | jblack | sounds much better now |
| 05:16.06 | marc7 | ... that's it? an Answer()?! |
| 05:16.09 | jblack | wait. got 2 rings, missed 1, got half of one. missed one. |
| 05:16.18 | jblack | nope. that's not it |
| 05:16.30 | marc7 | *sigh of relief* was sure I've tried that before |
| 05:16.37 | jblack | what is this over.. ethernet? |
| 05:16.39 | jblack | ppp? |
| 05:16.54 | marc7 | ethernet |
| 05:16.55 | sbingner | cup-and-string? |
| 05:17.03 | sbingner | aww |
| 05:17.10 | marc7 | have a second cup and string interface too |
| 05:17.15 | sbingner | yay |
| 05:17.26 | jblack | presumably that one has the same problem. |
| 05:17.26 | sbingner | a CAS interface *grin* |
| 05:17.32 | drmessano | Having two cups and strings does NOT make it a trunk |
| 05:17.36 | marc7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:17.42 | drmessano | Cupstring doesn't trunk |
| 05:17.48 | jblack | hmm. how about running a network load watcher, and something like top on the * server. |
| 05:17.49 | drmessano | They're "peers" |
| 05:17.56 | sbingner | lol |
| 05:18.13 | sbingner | isn't there something to show packet loss/jitter? |
| 05:18.41 | marc7 | jblack: it absolutely can't be network related... conversations take place perfectly, playback of voice recordings take place perfectly |
| 05:18.53 | jblack | It's just the rings. |
| 05:18.54 | sbingner | could it be a timing problem? |
| 05:19.01 | sbingner | is it a VM? |
| 05:19.19 | marc7 | sbingner: that's been my suspicion for the longest time... everybody keeps saying my zttest results are fine... nope, not running in a virtual instance |
| 05:19.26 | jblack | It sounds like dropped packets. |
| 05:19.31 | jblack | But it's really just the rings? |
| 05:19.45 | drmessano | So its not a trixbox on an XP MS Virtual PC? |
| 05:19.49 | drmessano | LOL |
| 05:19.53 | sbingner | lol |
| 05:20.08 | marc7 | drmessano: i would pay money to go office space on one of those... PC Load Letter?!?! |
| 05:20.25 | marc7 | jblack: here's the fun part... let me drop you in a MusicOnHold instance. |
| 05:20.31 | drmessano | I went so cacapoopoo on a guy that was setup that way once |
| 05:20.38 | jblack | Oh come on. Any nerd knows PC stands for paper cartridge. As in "Paper Cartridge - Load letter sized paper" |
| 05:20.44 | jblack | ok |
| 05:20.52 | jblack | by the way, is that your voice? |
| 05:20.57 | marc7 | zttest results after 71 passes -- Best: 99.998 -- Worst: 99.931 -- Average: 99.956400, |
| 05:21.00 | marc7 | jblack: yeah |
| 05:21.07 | *** join/#asterisk UnixDog (n=unixdog@adsl-69-234-226-84.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:21.08 | jblack | You have a future in telemarketing |
| 05:21.18 | drmessano | DONT CALL ME MARC7 |
| 05:21.45 | marc7 | jblack: come on, isn't being used for anything of the sort!!! *shifty eyes* |
| 05:21.56 | drmessano | Wait |
| 05:22.00 | *** join/#asterisk iPod-nano (n=david@c-68-43-60-193.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:22.05 | drmessano | Youre not gonna order 500 pizzas are you? |
| 05:22.27 | iPod-nano | Does anyone know of a reason why my friends' and my servers have suddenly stopped working? |
| 05:22.32 | jblack | I'd love to get you to record something for me along the lines of "The world is ending now! Please stock up on duct tape and plastic sheeting. Goodbye!" |
| 05:22.40 | drmessano | iPod-nano: Is the power on? |
| 05:22.50 | drmessano | iPod-nano: Recent version of iTunes? |
| 05:22.51 | marc7 | jblack: consider it done :) |
| 05:22.55 | jblack | Not that precisely, but something akin in telespeak. =) |
| 05:23.01 | sbingner | my zttest is consistantly better than 99.99 -- 99.93 is ok? |
| 05:23.07 | iPod-nano | Very funny. They're on, they're running, Asterisk is running. |
| 05:23.09 | jblack | Ready for me to dial? |
| 05:23.13 | marc7 | jblack: almost... |
| 05:23.20 | iPod-nano | These are unaltered from the last time we used them, and we can't connect to them. |
| 05:23.27 | jblack | take your time. I'm nice and comfy. |
| 05:23.40 | sbingner | iPod-nano, plug the power back in |
| 05:23.57 | drmessano | Maybe the network is down |
| 05:24.08 | iPod-nano | I can still connect to them via SSH. |
| 05:24.17 | *** join/#asterisk Azam (n=azamzia@58-65-160-140.nayatel.pk) |
| 05:24.25 | sbingner | then what does "down" mean |
| 05:24.37 | drmessano | Sounds ^5 to me |
| 05:25.17 | drmessano | Have you made sure asterisk is running? |
| 05:25.22 | drmessano | have you restarted? |
| 05:25.23 | jblack | What can cause stuttering... cpu starvation and net starvation. It's not the drive, as rings are generated... |
| 05:25.26 | drmessano | Are the ports open? |
| 05:25.50 | iPod-nano | Demilitarized, Asterisk is running without a doubt. |
| 05:25.52 | jblack | Did you perhaps fiddle with your indications.conf ? |
| 05:26.00 | drmessano | So what is "Down" |
| 05:26.03 | drmessano | Sounds "up" to me |
| 05:26.34 | marc7 | jblack: I think I may have made a discovery... |
| 05:26.38 | jblack | I wondered whether or not links go up for aussies. |
| 05:26.38 | drmessano | Am I on the wrong planet again? |
| 05:26.47 | iPod-nano | X-Lite gives us all a 503 error. |
| 05:26.47 | jblack | marc7: Do tell, because I'm flummoxed. |
| 05:26.48 | drmessano | Everyone, back on your heads |
| 05:26.50 | sbingner | drmessano, mars right? |
| 05:26.50 | iPod-nano | No route to host. |
| 05:27.03 | drmessano | DNS? |
| 05:27.08 | drmessano | IP change? |
| 05:27.13 | jblack | 503... isn't the auth class? |
| 05:27.34 | marc7 | jblack: okay. I thought adding a third extension -- exten => 3,1,MusicOnHold(CallTest) -- was going to work better than Dial() or Queue() |
| 05:27.36 | iPod-nano | Strangely, this happens on the LOCAL network as well. |
| 05:27.42 | sbingner | SIP 503 Service Unavailable |
| 05:27.45 | drmessano | Did you restart it? |
| 05:27.48 | jblack | Nope. Just unavailable. |
| 05:28.01 | jblack | marc7: ok... |
| 05:28.10 | marc7 | jblack: it turns out that if asterisk hears dead silence... it plays nothing. if it hears even the slightest amount of background noise, it plays the ringing OR the hold music *perfectly fine* |
| 05:28.14 | drmessano | iphone: Did you restart asterisk? |
| 05:28.22 | jblack | That is telling. |
| 05:28.31 | marc7 | jblack: indeed! |
| 05:28.35 | sbingner | marc7, disable silence detection |
| 05:28.42 | jblack | silence detection is nonworking in *. |
| 05:28.50 | jblack | where could it be enabled. |
| 05:28.55 | marc7 | might that have something to do with... |
| 05:28.56 | sbingner | I had that before thought it was something like that |
| 05:28.59 | marc7 | [Jan 24 21:25:43] NOTICE[22332]: rtp.c:787 process_rfc3389: Comfort noise support incomplete in Asterisk (RFC 3389). Please turn off on client if possible. Client IP: 123.45.67.8 |
| 05:29.17 | jblack | are you using zapata? |
| 05:29.30 | marc7 | jblack: negatory... zaptel/ztdummy, no hardware at all |
| 05:29.36 | jblack | Ok, so sip. |
| 05:29.44 | marc7 | right. sorry. |
| 05:29.44 | jblack | Does your upstream have a silence detection option? |
| 05:29.55 | marc7 | probably, i wonder if they've figured how to turn it off.. hmm... |
| 05:29.57 | jblack | You don't owe me a sorry. |
| 05:30.00 | marc7 | actually, hold on a scond! |
| 05:30.06 | marc7 | *tries something else* |
| 05:30.13 | sbingner | I SWEAR this happened to me before but I can't ^$%$# remember what it was |
| 05:30.39 | jblack | Also, what codec are you using? Speex by any chance? |
| 05:31.06 | jblack | if so, see if you twiddled dtx to true on accident |
| 05:31.14 | marc7 | hehe, no no, we should be using g711u |
| 05:31.16 | drmessano | I think I lost my ipod nano |
| 05:31.30 | drmessano | Nobody move |
| 05:31.38 | sbingner | it may have been silence detection on an ATA when this happened to me :( |
| 05:31.51 | jblack | Yes. Silence detection on an ATI would _Definitely_ do it. |
| 05:31.54 | jblack | ATA... |
| 05:32.09 | drmessano | Yep |
| 05:32.41 | jblack | I thought were coming in/out over sip though.. so how is ATA getting into the mix? |
| 05:33.02 | sbingner | it's not, as far as I know... but that was what MY problem was when I saw same thing |
| 05:33.35 | marc7 | jblack: ugh... it's *definitely* that... |
| 05:33.43 | jblack | Me (sip)> * (iax)> ITSP (who knows)> Your ITSP (sip)> * |
| 05:34.03 | marc7 | it's our carrier with that comfort noise support |
| 05:34.13 | marc7 | I never thought that warning meant anything :( |
| 05:34.16 | drmessano | Which carrier? |
| 05:34.23 | marc7 | Excel Telecommunications in Dallas |
| 05:34.28 | jblack | Yeah. If they're doing silence detection stuff, it'll do all sorts of weird things wth the channel that leaves * hellaconfused. |
| 05:34.29 | drmessano | Oh |
| 05:34.31 | drmessano | Ive heard of them |
| 05:34.34 | drmessano | Ok, no |
| 05:35.08 | jblack | all sorts of good news. You'll be able to call people all night with offers they can't refuse. =) |
| 05:35.13 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:35.48 | jblack | Yesterday, I helped someone who's situation was so weird, that I became convinced that sex slaves and dog-shock-collars were involved. |
| 05:36.04 | jblack | Funny as that sounds, i'm serious. |
| 05:37.05 | sbingner | you ask for a free demo? |
| 05:37.07 | jblack | Something about "we disabled DND because they press it when they're really available. So now we disabled it. But now, we need them to be able to say they're not here" |
| 05:37.20 | jblack | It was so... disturbing. |
| 05:37.21 | sbingner | ... wtfo |
| 05:37.28 | marc7 | jblack: hah! |
| 05:37.50 | sbingner | people really think there's some way to get that both ways? lol |
| 05:38.15 | sbingner | my head is in pain :( |
| 05:38.19 | sbingner | why did you have to share that |
| 05:38.24 | jblack | and for some reason, they couldn't just count on performance.. I.e. firing someone because they didn't make enough calls/didn't talk long enough, etc. |
| 05:38.54 | sbingner | they could just track WHEN the damn phone is on DND |
| 05:38.57 | jameswf-home | I have shock collars :) |
| 05:39.11 | sbingner | jameswf-home, what do YOU use them for? |
| 05:39.25 | jameswf-home | keep the monkeys in line |
| 05:39.30 | jblack | sbingner: *exactly*. You can figure everything out from the CDR. track down their productive time to the second. |
| 05:39.43 | jblack | And if they're lazy SOB's... then fire their ass. That's fair and ethical... |
| 05:40.00 | sbingner | <-- would just call random people and talk |
| 05:40.01 | jblack | So, why is hiring/firing based upon performance not applicable? |
| 05:40.06 | marc7 | jblack: you got that /msg, right? |
| 05:40.17 | jblack | The only thing I could come up with is... sex slaves with shock collars. |
| 05:40.22 | sbingner | lol |
| 05:40.28 | jblack | marc7: Yeah, I got it |
| 05:40.35 | jblack | I'm trying to figure out what I have here to play it |
| 05:40.36 | sbingner | and the dnd disabled the shock collar? :p |
| 05:40.52 | jblack | I guess? I dunno.. But the clincher was... |
| 05:41.02 | marc7 | jblack: if you want... just call that 800 number one last time... i've replaced it to be the greeting |
| 05:41.09 | jblack | The guy got _really_ hostile once I started questioning the work conditions, and went ballistic once I made the shock collar comment. |
| 05:41.13 | marc7 | you can use that as a preview and decode it later |
| 05:41.15 | sbingner | LOL |
| 05:42.19 | jblack | That's PERFECT! |
| 05:42.51 | marc7 | jblack: least I could do... I was going mental trying to figure out the source of the problem.. too bad the big huge warning alert in the console wasn't enough :P |
| 05:43.01 | jblack | Ironically, you're the one that found it. |
| 05:43.10 | jblack | If anyone other than you deseres the credit, it's drmessano |
| 05:43.36 | jblack | All I did was poke into a hole with a stick until something came out |
| 05:44.40 | jblack | You and Allison should get together and do a weasels duet. |
| 05:44.58 | sbingner | new telemarketer torture prompts? |
| 05:45.02 | sbingner | the current ones blow |
| 05:45.15 | sbingner | I mean, they have clicks and crap like somebody hanging up phone |
| 05:45.30 | jblack | No.. he can't do that. That would be like combining matter and antimatter |
| 05:45.35 | sbingner | lol |
| 05:45.44 | sbingner | even better! |
| 05:46.00 | jblack | I do wish I could find those old indian-telemarketer sound files, though. |
| 05:46.36 | marc7 | jblack: funny stuff :) let me know if you stumble across them. |
| 05:46.46 | jblack | They're gone and away. |
| 05:47.00 | jblack | All that's left is the telemarketer torture dialplan.. which is hilarious. |
| 05:47.37 | marc7 | I think my recorded voice doesn't sound all that great, but you wouldn't be the first person to suggest I should be recording voice prompts. i would never go as far as saying "voice talent"... it's insulting to all the people who actually get paid for their work |
| 05:47.44 | jblack | let me find the dialplan |
| 05:48.07 | marc7 | I'll catch up on the buffer, I'm heading out for a few. thanks again! |
| 05:48.13 | jblack | Don't take this the wrong way... |
| 05:48.13 | sbingner | marc7, telemarketer torture prompts! you know you want to... |
| 05:48.21 | jblack | but it's the emotionless cheer that does it. |
| 05:48.25 | sbingner | hahaha |
| 05:48.55 | *** join/#asterisk kbast (n=KB123@58-65-160-140.nayatel.pk) |
| 05:49.01 | marc7 | :) |
| 05:49.23 | kbast | Hi ppl |
| 05:49.32 | jblack | For those that haven't see the telemarketer torture dialplan, they're at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Telemarketer+Torture |
| 05:50.01 | kbast | Well I'm interested to build small asterisk application with some purpose |
| 05:50.04 | jblack | I hear that the sound files were read in very uneven audio.. by someone with a bad indian accent. |
| 05:50.11 | jblack | kbast: Ok |
| 05:50.11 | kbast | That can be used in some scenario |
| 05:50.27 | jblack | It's good to build things that can be used in some scenario! |
| 05:50.43 | jblack | (what's the point of making something that's good for no scenarios?) |
| 05:50.45 | kbast | Just wanted to utilize time for tht |
| 05:50.50 | kbast | hehe |
| 05:51.06 | kbast | Well useful for some one ... |
| 05:51.17 | kbast | small telephony applications |
| 05:51.20 | drmessano | I like to use stuff that useful for stuff to use too!!! |
| 05:51.33 | sbingner | I like to use stuff that's useless |
| 05:51.49 | drmessano | sbingner, you'd love my ex wife then |
| 05:51.55 | jblack | cmon. let the cat out of the bag. It's a Dear-John app, isn't it? "I'm sorry to inform you that your boyfriend <insert audiofile> has decided to leave you. Thanks for all the fish. kay thanx bye!<click>" |
| 05:51.59 | sbingner | lol, nice |
| 05:52.05 | jameswf-home | should get the squiril from illwillpress to do some recordings |
| 05:52.20 | drmessano | haha |
| 05:52.25 | kbast | gre8 ideas man ! |
| 05:52.32 | kbast | Where were you :p |
| 05:52.33 | jblack | Oh, you're looking ideas?!? |
| 05:52.38 | drmessano | kbast: write me some code man |
| 05:52.42 | sbingner | the dear john app would sell |
| 05:52.50 | jameswf-home | thankyou for calling shnell computers |
| 05:52.59 | jblack | Here's an easy one... |
| 05:53.04 | drmessano | I want an app that would do stuff not just to do stuff but to use for stuff to use! |
| 05:53.04 | kbast | go ahead |
| 05:53.06 | jblack | why don't you make an dtmf math app? |
| 05:53.22 | kbast | dtmf math app ? |
| 05:53.30 | jblack | Yeah. call in, have it do math for you |
| 05:53.40 | jblack | Or.. how about a phone based tip calculator? |
| 05:53.45 | jameswf-home | schnell now sell phonality pbx lol |
| 05:53.52 | drmessano | LOL |
| 05:53.58 | drmessano | I saw that |
| 05:54.09 | drmessano | Installed by Geek Squad and Firedog |
| 05:54.10 | jblack | That already exists? |
| 05:54.11 | drmessano | LOL |
| 05:54.11 | kbast | hmmm ... |
| 05:54.18 | sbingner | haha. "Enter grade of service on a scale of 1 to 10, enter amount of bill. Your tip is ###" |
| 05:54.20 | jblack | Oh, |
| 05:54.25 | jameswf-home | heard centPBX is dead |
| 05:54.31 | jameswf-home | hmm what else |
| 05:54.32 | jblack | Heh. Ex-wife torturer. |
| 05:54.33 | drmessano | Is it? |
| 05:54.51 | kbast | Did I ask the weired question ? : ) |
| 05:54.52 | sbingner | oooo |
| 05:54.58 | kbast | realizing that |
| 05:54.59 | sbingner | I NEED a voice recognition app |
| 05:55.02 | jameswf-home | not officialy but if you look at their site its apperant |
| 05:55.06 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 05:55.08 | sbingner | to make a BADASS telemarketer torture script |
| 05:55.17 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 05:55.26 | jblack | sbingner: No. You definitely do _not_ want a voice recognition app. |
| 05:55.27 | drmessano | Guess I wont have Firedog install CentPBX on my Schell |
| 05:55.37 | sbingner | jblack, because they suck? |
| 05:55.41 | jblack | You want something that _pretends_ is voice recognition, but actually just randomly selects shit |
| 05:55.46 | sbingner | lol |
| 05:55.50 | sbingner | that's what the current ones are |
| 05:56.09 | sbingner | but with real voice recognition you could have it pick something that sounds "close" |
| 05:56.12 | jblack | Ok kbast. here's a serious one, one that I'd love. |
| 05:56.20 | drmessano | jblack, its not VOICE RECOGNITION.. thats requires working code.. Its VOICE SUGGESTION |
| 05:56.33 | sbingner | lol |
| 05:56.35 | drmessano | s/thats/that |
| 05:56.43 | jblack | kbast: Here's how it would work. For a month, each time I grab a smoke, I call into the ap. |
| 05:57.01 | jblack | After that month, then for the next 2-3 months, the app calls me, and says "it's time for a smoke". |
| 05:57.06 | sbingner | lol |
| 05:57.09 | jblack | And each day, it adds a few minutes between smokes. |
| 05:57.17 | kbast | That's a kind of scheduler |
| 05:57.24 | drmessano | I want an app that will tell me if someone is calling me from a Trixbox and then hangs up on them |
| 05:57.31 | *** join/#asterisk craigk (n=craigk@58.174.150.119) |
| 05:57.34 | sbingner | why would you do it for a month rather than a day? |
| 05:57.45 | jblack | sbingner: Because it's a quitting smoking application. |
| 05:57.55 | sbingner | but don't you smoke the same amount every day? |
| 05:58.09 | sbingner | or at least a weekly basis? |
| 05:58.19 | *** join/#asterisk fnordus (n=dnall@24.84.160.227) |
| 05:58.20 | sbingner | I mean it seems like you're giving it excessive data ;) |
| 05:58.26 | jblack | Sure. And you do it for a whole month to detect patterns. Perhaps I smoke a lot on the weekends, but less while "at work" |
| 05:58.37 | drmessano | Ohh Ohh I got it |
| 05:58.38 | sbingner | *nod* |
| 05:59.01 | sbingner | I would have thought you would smoke more while at work... most people use it as an excuse not to work |
| 05:59.03 | jblack | then, while honoring the detected patterns, stretch out the time between smokes... |
| 05:59.07 | kbast | Thanks I will sit with a cup of coffee and try to sort out |
| 05:59.21 | jblack | sbingner: I used to smoke at work, but the job kept getitng in the way, so I quit. |
| 05:59.26 | drmessano | What about an APP that you program delivery numbers into.. Like for Pizza Hut, etc.. and if you dial them too frequently, it blocks you from calling them for X number of days and calls you "fatass" |
| 05:59.29 | drmessano | Now that.. thats gold |
| 05:59.37 | sbingner | drm, lol |
| 05:59.50 | kbast | :) |
| 05:59.52 | jameswf-home | maybe you wou\\\\\\ |
| 06:00.03 | jblack | kbast: Here's a simpler app to write. How about a mileage log for cars? |
| 06:00.03 | jameswf-home | *would order chinese |
| 06:00.16 | sbingner | hmm mileage log could be useful |
| 06:00.18 | jblack | Every time you fill in the tank, punch in the odometer and how much gas you got. |
| 06:00.34 | jameswf-home | diabeeties app |
| 06:00.34 | kbast | hmmm |
| 06:00.37 | sbingner | I was thinking of a business/pleasure mileage logger |
| 06:00.40 | jameswf-home | i kant spell |
| 06:00.45 | sbingner | so you know how much you can claim on tax or for work |
| 06:00.48 | jblack | with extra work, people might actually be able to use it in work environments. |
| 06:01.12 | drmessano | How about an app that checks the menstral cycle of your significant other.. and when it gets to 26 it calls you every morning for the next few days and warns you of the "weather report"? |
| 06:01.28 | jblack | drmessano: I don't need a phone to tell me when my ex is pms'ing. |
| 06:01.29 | drmessano | "Danger Will Robinson, Danger" |
| 06:01.39 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:01.43 | drmessano | By then its too late |
| 06:01.44 | jameswf-home | a program diabeties patients can call and log foods then a web app that parses results maybe to wap |
| 06:01.47 | jblack | hell. she pms's 3 weeks out of the month anyways.\ |
| 06:01.48 | drmessano | You need early warning |
| 06:01.51 | sbingner | I found that it works well if you just bitch them out whenever they're bitchy... they get pissy a few times then just stop letting you see |
| 06:01.59 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 06:02.32 | jameswf-home | I had an app that would burn a different linux iso based on an IVR |
| 06:02.34 | sbingner | LOL! |
| 06:02.37 | sbingner | we scared him off? |
| 06:02.47 | sbingner | jameswf-home, wth for? |
| 06:03.08 | jblack | She's moody the week before her period, because she knows it's coming. Then, she's a complete BITCH the week of the period itself. Then, the week after that, she's still a bitch, becasue she spends a whole week stuck in fights that she started back in the week that she actually had her period. |
| 06:03.10 | jameswf-home | I was bored.... kinda like ubuntu on tap |
| 06:03.22 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:03.24 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:03.37 | drmessano | Thats.... funny as hell |
| 06:03.37 | sbingner | women use the period as an EXCUSE to be bitchy, we need to stop putting up with it ;) |
| 06:03.39 | jblack | I dealt with that for *13* years |
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| 06:03.52 | drmessano | Thats why they invented Asterisk |
| 06:03.56 | drmessano | Time off from it |
| 06:04.05 | drmessano | "Sorry, cant hear you, working on my PBX" |
| 06:04.09 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:04.50 | drmessano | "If you ever want to speak to your mom again, you'll let me work on this" |
| 06:04.55 | jblack | "you've got more Ps to worry about than that" |
| 06:05.04 | drmessano | Then go drink a few beers, turn her extension back on |
| 06:05.15 | jameswf-home | someone needs to convert this to AGI http://www.beigerecords.com/cory/pizza_party/ |
| 06:06.01 | jblack | Yeah. If only there were some... process... for ordering pizza... but OVER THE PHONE!! |
| 06:06.35 | citats | jblack: sounds like an interesting concept |
| 06:07.05 | jameswf-home | yes but this lets you do it without dealing with an idiot kid who is only working because their parents make them |
| 06:07.41 | sbingner | then the idiot kid just has to transcode it from the computer to the pizza... which is so much more reliable.... |
| 06:07.43 | jblack | huh. |
| 06:08.19 | jblack | The last time I ordered papa johns (over the internet).. the piza showed up 20 minutes late and stone cold... because the moron both didn't bother with a hotbag and carried it in the trunk of his car. |
| 06:08.24 | drmessano | Flite("I would like to otder a pizza now, you little jerk") |
| 06:08.38 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:08.54 | drmessano | We always get calls because my apartment complex is poorly marked |
| 06:09.22 | drmessano | But the trick is to complain often |
| 06:09.35 | drmessano | Then you start getting hot pies |
| 06:10.10 | jblack | does anybody know someone with a thick indian accent, that might want to make a few bucks? |
| 06:10.36 | denon | just call dell tech support |
| 06:10.44 | craigk | lol |
| 06:10.45 | drmessano | I can do a REAL good one.. but on short bursts |
| 06:10.47 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:10.58 | jblack | that would take hours to trick them into saying the telemarketer hell script. |
| 06:11.17 | denon | tell them you'll give em 50 cents an hour more than dell is paying em |
| 06:11.25 | drmessano | wow |
| 06:11.30 | drmessano | Thats more than 3x |
| 06:11.35 | denon | nod |
| 06:11.53 | drmessano | SO is Dell going to be supporting Trixbox? |
| 06:12.02 | jblack | You mean dell actually pays them money these days? What happened to the old breadstick-for-a-days-hard-work ? |
| 06:12.30 | denon | have you actually talked to anyone from dell tech support lately? |
| 06:12.40 | denon | I dont think they're worth a whole breadstick |
| 06:12.45 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:12.53 | drmessano | I love how they apologize |
| 06:13.01 | sbingner | so sorry |
| 06:13.03 | drmessano | "Ok, so, have you checked the monitor" |
| 06:13.08 | denon | kindly sir, may I please call you by your first name? |
| 06:13.14 | drmessano | "THE CASE IS ON FIRE, I CANT GET CLOSE ENOUGH" |
| 06:13.17 | denon | uh, dude, who cares, just look it up and lets move on |
| 06:13.27 | drmessano | "Im so sorry.. ok then.. Have you checked the keyboard?" |
| 06:13.36 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:14.06 | drmessano | I hate HP, but at least their tech support is easy |
| 06:14.14 | denon | I think next time I call, I'll play dumb .. "Hello? Hello? Wow, my phone sounds really .. weird. Can you hear that too? Do I sound like a cartoon character?" |
| 06:14.15 | sbingner | why do you call tech support? |
| 06:14.19 | sbingner | they're useless |
| 06:14.21 | drmessano | "Send me a motherboard, the one I have exploded" |
| 06:14.27 | jblack | sbingner: It's how to do returns |
| 06:14.54 | denon | it's less painful than trying to get an RMA via online chat with one of those goofballs |
| 06:15.02 | drmessano | I was calling HP 2x a day for a while with motherboard and power supply problems on DC7100's |
| 06:15.06 | sbingner | I've had to pretend to troubleshoot on the phone with the morons before |
| 06:15.14 | denon | luckily we don't have to deal with many overseas support outfits, since we have dealer agreements and such |
| 06:15.19 | drmessano | We have Gold support and all, so it was a little easier |
| 06:15.36 | sbingner | "please check X .. ok .. " - walks off, gets a coffee, comes back - "yea it still doesn't work" |
| 06:15.50 | jblack | what does gold get you? A double helping of "please to be helping you sir" ? |
| 06:15.55 | drmessano | No |
| 06:16.08 | denon | means some guy in jersey looking stuff up in the same KB |
| 06:16.09 | drmessano | Fast response time and no questions asked RMAs |
| 06:16.16 | drmessano | Overnight replacement parts |
| 06:16.25 | sbingner | dell's high level support is better |
| 06:16.45 | sbingner | we had it in a facility in Guam -- they kept a spare of every part we owned on island in a warehouse.... |
| 06:17.02 | sbingner | just had to say we need the part and we have it within an hour |
| 06:17.04 | denon | dell is weird ..they same-day air'd us a motherboard one time, and the guy forgot a VRM for it |
| 06:17.11 | denon | was a different VRM than the existing one had |
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| 06:17.16 | drmessano | I have 1 hour too, but I dont want someone else installing it |
| 06:17.26 | drmessano | Ive waived it off before |
| 06:17.26 | denon | he got off a plane, drove 2 hours, put the board in .. "oops" |
| 06:17.32 | denon | had to cost a fortune |
| 06:17.36 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:18.12 | drmessano | The parts are convenient, but its whatever yahoo has the HP contract for that area |
| 06:18.16 | drmessano | Could be someone you HATE |
| 06:18.25 | drmessano | In this case, its unisys, who are useless |
| 06:18.28 | jblack | The new duke nukem voice sucks |
| 06:18.49 | sbingner | drmessano, *shrug* let them come out... take the part... install it |
| 06:18.53 | drmessano | Id rather wait for part.. as long as i'm not down on a critical box |
| 06:18.57 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:19.05 | sbingner | I've done that before |
| 06:19.16 | drmessano | I've HELPED... HELPED them install parts on servers they've insisted they needed to do the repair on, per HP |
| 06:19.25 | drmessano | Because they didnt know how |
| 06:19.27 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:19.36 | drmessano | We had some ugly ass Dell NAS boxes that kept failing |
| 06:19.41 | jblack | Combine Sly Stallone, Clint Eastwood and Bruce Willis. |
| 06:19.41 | sbingner | I've never encountered anything HP wouldn't let me repair myself |
| 06:19.42 | drmessano | So they would send them out to repair |
| 06:19.48 | drmessano | and none of them knew how to take them apart |
| 06:19.58 | drmessano | So I taught one guy.. assisted a few others |
| 06:20.02 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:20.05 | jblack | Now, cut off their balls. That's duke's new voice. |
| 06:20.39 | drmessano | HP pisses me off with their hard drives |
| 06:20.41 | sbingner | hah |
| 06:20.48 | sbingner | drm, how's that? |
| 06:21.32 | drmessano | They vastly underestimate the stock they need to keep over time of replacement drives... they seem to run out of drives just when the EOL of a specific drives hits for 1000 users |
| 06:22.00 | drmessano | Companwide we had a TON of umm |
| 06:22.10 | sbingner | lol |
| 06:22.13 | drmessano | What the crap were they.. LH-3000 Servers |
| 06:22.30 | drmessano | A LOT of us lost drives on them.. and couldnt find them |
| 06:22.38 | drmessano | Which is not uncommon |
| 06:23.14 | drmessano | corporate ended up starting a pool of servers that had been replaced due to non mechanical reasons, and stocked working spares for all us |
| 06:23.54 | drmessano | I had one server lose 2 drives in a week, and I was running a RAID5 on 3 drives |
| 06:24.00 | sbingner | ouch |
| 06:24.01 | drmessano | Barely got it back up |
| 06:24.41 | sbingner | I tried replacing an Adaptec RAID array with an HP raid array (I think it may have been made by adaptec)... never try that |
| 06:25.03 | sbingner | the stupid damned thing wrote 1MB of data to the beginning of all the drives without even asking me.... before I set up the array even |
| 06:25.04 | drmessano | We were using Dell for everything other than our automation systems, and 2 years later, even after that fiasco, we went ALL HP |
| 06:25.12 | drmessano | Damn.. |
| 06:25.13 | sbingner | managed to save the data, but jesus |
| 06:25.35 | drmessano | I will say one thing for HP |
| 06:26.34 | drmessano | The Array management software on windows make it easy to assign drives, swap drives, etc.... Which, you know, being that the PRIMARY function you perform on HP servers isnt data management, but drive swapping, is a very nice feature |
| 06:26.53 | sbingner | overall I actually like HP... heh |
| 06:26.53 | sbingner | yea, I like their arrays |
| 06:27.31 | sbingner | I made a DVD that we put in a server... it configured the raid and installed the OS without anything but a "yes" |
| 06:27.41 | sbingner | well, choose type of server... then yes |
| 06:28.14 | drmessano | I have to admit the ILO is nice too |
| 06:28.34 | drmessano | Would be awesome for an Asterisk box |
| 06:28.43 | sbingner | dell has the same thing |
| 06:28.51 | sbingner | but yea, I like them |
| 06:28.58 | drmessano | uh yeah, the DRAC |
| 06:29.28 | sbingner | nobody ever bothers configuring them though... very annoying |
| 06:29.44 | sbingner | let alone connecting an ethernet cable to them |
| 06:29.56 | drmessano | I didnt on my first few boxes, but the last 10 or 15 we've deployed I have |
| 06:30.01 | drmessano | Its handy |
| 06:30.04 | sbingner | I always do... it is |
| 06:30.10 | sbingner | but nobody else bothered |
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| 06:30.18 | justdave | ours all are |
| 06:30.37 | justdave | machines don't get deployed without it configured |
| 06:31.38 | justdave | "ILO 100" sucks, btw - make sure your box has the real ILO on it if you're shopping |
| 06:32.09 | sbingner | ILO 100? |
| 06:32.10 | justdave | it's a slimmed down version they've had on some of the newer servers recently... and half of the remote console stuff is missing on it |
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| 06:32.23 | justdave | all you can do is power management and so forth |
| 06:32.24 | sbingner | we had the advanced pack key in all ours |
| 06:32.31 | sbingner | aah |
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| 06:32.49 | drmessano | ILO Light? |
| 06:32.56 | drmessano | Wouldnt that be LILO |
| 06:32.58 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:33.01 | justdave | heh |
| 06:33.02 | sbingner | ILOL |
| 06:33.06 | drmessano | ILOL |
| 06:33.13 | drmessano | HA |
| 06:34.30 | justdave | ILO 100 does actually have remote console it in, but only via the web interface, and only with Internet Explorer and some specific version of Java |
| 06:34.38 | drmessano | HAHAHHA |
| 06:34.40 | drmessano | Oh my god |
| 06:34.53 | drmessano | I bet its awesome has the VNC HTTP |
| 06:35.02 | drmessano | I bet its as awesome as the VNC HTTP |
| 06:35.05 | drmessano | Jeez.. |
| 06:35.31 | justdave | the real ILO has a pretty OS/Browser/Java Version agnostic graphical console in the web interface, as well as textmode console via ssh |
| 06:36.12 | drmessano | Thats all we've gotten is the Advanced Pack |
| 06:36.39 | drmessano | They wont put it on the PA for the new boxes as Capital, so I end up expensing it |
| 06:36.45 | justdave | we ended up having to set up a Windows box in the colo that we can RDP into to run IE and get into the console on the DL140s :) |
| 06:36.47 | drmessano | It will be worth it the first time we need it |
| 06:36.54 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 06:38.18 | denon | why not just VPN in? |
| 06:38.40 | justdave | you have to VPN in to get to the windows box. :) |
| 06:39.00 | justdave | no sane sysadmin runs Windows on their own computer ;) |
| 06:39.30 | denon | I'm saying, if you have something else there .. |
| 06:39.36 | denon | vpn, ssh tunnel, whatever to that |
| 06:39.40 | denon | and run IE over the tunnel |
| 06:39.46 | denon | why have it sitting local just to RDP into? |
| 06:40.00 | denon | why waste the space of a whole server in colo, when you could tunnel into a box the size of your hand |
| 06:40.03 | justdave | the point is you need Windows + IE to get into the console |
| 06:40.19 | denon | how do you connect to console from it? |
| 06:40.19 | justdave | on the boxes that have the ILO100 on them |
| 06:40.20 | denon | serial? |
| 06:40.22 | denon | hehe |
| 06:40.37 | justdave | via the web interface on the ILO ethernet port on the machine |
| 06:40.44 | denon | right .. |
| 06:40.49 | denon | and that has an IP address? |
| 06:40.54 | justdave | yeop |
| 06:40.58 | justdave | er, yep |
| 06:41.20 | denon | and you can't connect to that IP address via a tunnel from another device? |
| 06:41.26 | justdave | sure you can. |
| 06:41.31 | justdave | but you have to do it from Windows + IE |
| 06:41.44 | denon | right, so run Win/IE on something at your office |
| 06:41.46 | denon | vmware or whatever |
| 06:41.59 | justdave | it's faster to have it in the colo |
| 06:42.10 | justdave | the java console is bitmapped |
| 06:42.14 | drmessano | yeah |
| 06:42.14 | justdave | RDP is pretty fast |
| 06:42.20 | denon | ic |
| 06:42.23 | denon | yeah, it is |
| 06:42.27 | drmessano | It would be SLOOOOW doing it offsite |
| 06:42.43 | denon | shrugs, I remote kvm stuff offsite all the time |
| 06:42.45 | denon | it's not so bad |
| 06:42.49 | drmessano | No |
| 06:42.50 | denon | as long as you have adequate bw |
| 06:42.51 | drmessano | Dude |
| 06:42.55 | drmessano | "ILO" |
| 06:43.09 | justdave | if the console is decent, like the *real* ILO, then yeah, that works fine. :) |
| 06:43.17 | drmessano | yeah |
| 06:43.24 | justdave | the piece of crap thing they have on ILO 100 is slow as hell |
| 06:43.35 | drmessano | The problem is application specific, denon |
| 06:43.46 | denon | ic |
| 06:44.09 | drmessano | I've had some issues with normal ILO over a Cisco IPSec VPN before |
| 06:44.14 | denon | guess I've never had an issue with the lights out stuff I've connected to |
| 06:44.21 | denon | must have been a different version |
| 06:44.42 | denon | openvpn can be pretty passive in those situations |
| 06:44.45 | denon | especially in bridge mode |
| 06:44.49 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 06:45.02 | drmessano | Im stuck with Cisco or Juniper |
| 06:45.08 | drmessano | Juniper is proving to be pretty good |
| 06:45.15 | denon | I've always liked juniper |
| 06:45.17 | drmessano | The Cisco was lame |
| 06:45.23 | denon | junos is pretty mature |
| 06:45.34 | denon | cisco's always been kind of an edge/client access company imho |
| 06:45.49 | drmessano | The client app that Juniper uses is soo nice |
| 06:45.55 | justdave | the one I'm comparing to that works nice and is browser agnostic is what comes on the DL140, DL380, and DL385 |
| 06:46.07 | justdave | er, 360 not 140 |
| 06:46.07 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 06:46.12 | justdave | the 140 is the piece of crap one |
| 06:46.21 | drmessano | We use a lot of DL380s and DL385s |
| 06:46.35 | denon | I tend to use IP KVMs and PDUs more than ilo style stuff |
| 06:46.42 | denon | you dont get the nice virtual drive stuff .. |
| 06:46.48 | denon | but it does everything I need, and cheaper |
| 06:46.56 | drmessano | Ive yet to use the one of the DL140.. I have one that basically racked and plugged in that corporate sent.. |
| 06:48.43 | drmessano | Its sad looking inside the HPs though |
| 06:48.48 | drmessano | The green plastic stuff |
| 06:48.54 | drmessano | From their compaq heritage |
| 06:51.29 | justdave | the DL140 has a piece of crap raid controller in it, too |
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| 06:51.50 | justdave | it's a "driver-assisted hardware raid" |
| 06:52.06 | justdave | which basically means it's software raid with the driver doing the work instead of the OS. |
| 06:52.23 | justdave | and the linux drivers for that controller suck |
| 06:52.43 | justdave | so we usually just disable the raid in the BIOS and let Linux do it with md |
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| 06:54.28 | justdave | and nothing mission-critical goes on those machines :) |
| 06:54.32 | drmessano | They sent these boxes as some top secret project.. I hadn't seen a DL140 before, but was told to install it ;) |
| 06:54.56 | justdave | they have nice fast CPUs, so we use them for webservers in the load-balanced cluster |
| 06:55.04 | justdave | where all the machines are continuously replicated anyway |
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| 06:55.17 | drmessano | They look like glorified NAS boxes |
| 06:55.27 | drmessano | Like the old Dell 715Ns |
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| 07:30.44 | psytwo | hey guys, im pretty new to asterisk and was wondering if someone could help me with something? :) |
| 07:31.13 | kaldemar | just ask, you'll see then. |
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| 07:32.31 | psytwo | cool, im getting the following error "== Primary D-Channel on span 5 down". I know that span 5 is linked to an isdn number that i've discontinued with my telecom provider. Is there any way I can disable span 5 in asterisk? |
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| 07:36.17 | Corydon76-dig | psytwo: only by commenting out the corresponding channels in zapata.conf and restarting |
| 07:37.24 | psytwo | Thanks Corydon76-dig. How would I find out which channels are associated with span 5? |
| 07:37.44 | kaldemar | that is pretty annoying when chan_zap keeps on polling D-channels on spans that are down. |
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| 07:38.48 | justdave | I think the span -> channel mapping happens in /etc/zaptel.conf |
| 07:39.04 | kaldemar | when you have for example 8 spans that need to be configured but are not necessarily connected, it is a pain to watch CLI when a nice number of messages is printed every five seconds. |
| 07:39.29 | psytwo | true, thanks |
| 07:40.00 | psytwo | if i cat /proc/zaptel/5 i get this: |
| 07:40.04 | psytwo | Span 5: ztqoz/2/5 "octoBRI PCI ISDN Card 1 Span 5 [TE] Layer 1 DEACTIVATED (F4)" AMI/CCS |
| 07:40.10 | psytwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.15 | psytwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.20 | psytwo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:40.41 | psytwo | can I assume this means that channels 13,14 and 15 at mapped to span 5? |
| 07:40.51 | kaldemar | yes. |
| 07:41.11 | psytwo | great, thanks a million guys :) |
| 07:41.37 | andrewn | would anyone like a cupcake? http://www.generisch.net/stuff/IMG_5244.JPG |
| 07:42.33 | justdave | wow, too much milk in that recipe? |
| 07:42.55 | andrewn | that's the "frosting" |
| 07:43.05 | justdave | some of those almost look like poached eggs :) |
| 07:43.09 | andrewn | lol |
| 07:43.13 | andrewn | a friend suggested fried eggs |
| 07:43.23 | andrewn | they're supposed to be for my coworker's birthday tomorrow |
| 07:43.32 | andrewn | i'm not sure i can even take them in |
| 07:43.32 | andrewn | lol |
| 07:43.34 | justdave | got left in the sun? |
| 07:43.40 | andrewn | no they just came out of the oven |
| 07:43.41 | andrewn | lol |
| 07:44.04 | justdave | oh, aren't you supposed to frost them after you cook them? |
| 07:44.18 | justdave | (rather than before? :) |
| 07:44.24 | andrewn | i did |
| 07:44.32 | justdave | but you didn't wait for them to cool first |
| 07:44.51 | andrewn | actually i was hoping that the warm cupcakes would absorb some of the runny frosting |
| 07:45.09 | andrewn | obviously I'm not much of a baker ;) |
| 07:46.48 | drmessano | EWWWW |
| 07:46.57 | drmessano | Worst. Cupcakes. Ever. |
| 07:47.18 | andrewn | thank you :) |
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| 07:47.38 | andrewn | I haven't been able to stop laughing since I poured the "frosting" on |
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| 07:50.49 | drmessano | I deem those "FAILcakes" |
| 07:53.22 | nixguy | morning cupcakes! |
| 07:55.36 | drmessano | andrewn, I know where you went wrong |
| 07:55.55 | andrewn | there are so many, many places where I went wrong |
| 07:55.59 | drmessano | You walked right past the bakery to the aisle with the cupcake mix |
| 07:56.09 | andrewn | please |
| 07:56.11 | andrewn | cupcake mix? |
| 07:56.13 | andrewn | I made these from scratch! |
| 07:56.26 | drmessano | Scratching you ass, what? |
| 07:56.29 | drmessano | Oh |
| 07:56.33 | drmessano | I misread |
| 07:56.50 | drmessano | Actually |
| 07:57.05 | drmessano | The cupcakes look great.. the "Frosting" looks like umm |
| 07:57.37 | drmessano | Reminds me of this one time I drank too much beer and ate a ton of pizza |
| 07:57.42 | drmessano | ..... |
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| 08:03.50 | andrewn | lol drm |
| 08:03.59 | andrewn | that last bit was my first thought too |
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| 08:05.27 | the_5th_wheel | if i get a 'broken pipe' error on an agi connection. what could be wrong? |
| 08:05.37 | patrick-- | Hey, i tried to install mISDN user with the misdn-install-mqueue tarball, but i get a "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/build: No such file or directory. Stop." |
| 08:07.45 | patrick-- | does anyone know what could be wrong? |
| 08:07.58 | drmessano | nope |
| 08:09.04 | kaldemar | patrick--: do you have kernel headers installed? |
| 08:09.29 | patrick-- | yea |
| 08:09.46 | patrick-- | at least linux-kernel-headers package |
| 08:11.01 | kaldemar | it probably expects ./build to be a symlink to the headers. this is not my area of expertise, maybe someone else can confirm. |
| 08:11.33 | patrick-- | where do the headers reside? |
| 08:11.39 | patrick-- | where can i find them? |
| 08:12.25 | phix | patrick--: /usr/src/linux usually |
| 08:12.35 | phix | what distro you running? |
| 08:12.36 | patrick-- | no such dir |
| 08:12.39 | patrick-- | debian etch |
| 08:12.45 | phix | so install the headers |
| 08:12.53 | patrick-- | they are installed |
| 08:13.13 | phix | hmmmm, nothing else in /usr/src? |
| 08:13.23 | phix | headers maybe |
| 08:13.25 | patrick-- | nah |
| 08:13.27 | patrick-- | nothing else |
| 08:13.41 | phix | *shrugs* good luck :) |
| 08:13.51 | phix | you could try installing kernel source package |
| 08:13.59 | phix | that will def include headers |
| 08:14.16 | phix | oh looks like you need the actual kernel source |
| 08:14.27 | phix | yeah get the kernel source package for the kernel you are using atm |
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| 08:16.29 | patrick-- | phix: think ive got it |
| 08:17.38 | patrick-- | didnt really have the headers installed |
| 08:17.39 | patrick-- | got it now |
| 08:17.47 | patrick-- | retrying to compile |
| 08:18.17 | patrick-- | that looks a lot better |
| 08:18.18 | patrick-- | :) |
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| 08:20.51 | sbingner | is there no way to match digits-followed-by-pound ? |
| 08:21.22 | sbingner | and "digits" |
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| 08:32.17 | RockHound | good day ... is there an easy way to create a callerid list for outside calls? for example, I would like to map my internal extensions to previously used land-line extensions. does this make sense? |
| 08:32.40 | sbingner | not exactly, you want this for outgoing calls or incoming calls? |
| 08:32.54 | sbingner | so you call 555-1212 and it calls 123? |
| 08:33.19 | sbingner | (not exactly to the does this make sense question) |
| 08:33.46 | RockHound | no ... I would like to make my internal sid device 123 call outside lines and appear as 555-1212 to the called party |
| 08:34.42 | sbingner | what technology do you use for your internal phones? |
| 08:34.43 | RockHound | sip device that is |
| 08:34.54 | RockHound | sip |
| 08:35.00 | sbingner | you want their callerid to be 123 internally and 555-1212 externally then? |
| 08:35.06 | RockHound | yes |
| 08:35.08 | sbingner | I'd use astdb |
| 08:35.16 | RockHound | okay |
| 08:35.23 | RockHound | that is a keyword i can work with ... thx |
| 08:35.40 | sbingner | database set CIDMAP/123 555-1212 |
| 08:35.47 | sbingner | (in console that would be) |
| 08:36.16 | sbingner | ${DB(CIDMAP/123)} would then return 555-1212 |
| 08:36.30 | RockHound | cool |
| 08:36.47 | RockHound | and then use this in the external context ... |
| 08:36.59 | sbingner | wherever you make external calls from, yes |
| 08:37.05 | RockHound | perfect ... |
| 08:37.21 | RockHound | is this retained through-out restarts? |
| 08:37.24 | sbingner | yea |
| 08:37.30 | sbingner | it's a sqlite database |
| 08:37.36 | RockHound | ah |
| 08:37.43 | RockHound | thanks a bunch |
| 08:37.57 | sbingner | np |
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| 08:44.32 | RockHound | sbingner: "database put" it is for me |
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| 08:52.42 | patrick-- | Hey everyone. We are planning to setup an asterisk server instead of our old PBX. Can anyone guide me through the configuration? the dialplan and the misdn.conf are still absolutely unknown |
| 08:53.06 | patrick-- | ive got the server running, asterisk installed and working, but i need to setup a dialplan etc |
| 08:53.07 | jblack | patrick--: That's an awful lot of work you're asking for help with. |
| 08:53.15 | patrick-- | i just need hintes |
| 08:53.17 | patrick-- | hints* |
| 08:53.21 | patrick-- | not the work done for me |
| 08:53.27 | patrick-- | i wanna do it myself |
| 08:53.31 | jblack | Ok. Hint #1: Read the book. (~book for the pdf version) |
| 08:53.38 | patrick-- | link? |
| 08:54.08 | jblack | Hint #1, when someone suggest ~word, they mean "consider typing ~word in channel so that the bot provides the suggested info) |
| 08:54.31 | jblack | And hint #2 can be Read the book (type ~book to get a link for the pdf version) |
| 08:54.40 | patrick-- | ~book |
| 08:54.40 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 08:55.46 | jblack | Btw, you're welcome to ask any well onsidered, informed questions like "I can't seem to get sip working. I've looked at this, that the other. The console isn't giving me anything I can figure out. What next" |
| 08:56.06 | jblack | I wouldn't, however, suggest "Someone write me a dialplan" (I'm not implying you said this) |
| 08:56.08 | patrick-- | okay, thanks for the hint with the book... i was looking all over for sth like that |
| 08:56.28 | jblack | awesome. I'm glad I could give you something useful at this early in the game for ya |
| 08:56.38 | patrick-- | yupp... thx |
| 08:56.51 | patrick-- | its a hell of a lot to read... but well.. |
| 08:56.58 | jblack | personally, I'd use the pdf for only as long as it takes to get a copy of the hardcover. |
| 08:57.08 | patrick-- | why is that? |
| 08:57.39 | jblack | patrick--: Because you'll want it again and again. Easy to flip through, put bookmarks in, without having to ctrl-tab between a pdf and configuration files. |
| 08:57.58 | jblack | And yeah, it is a hell of a lot to read, which is why I said that you were asking for an awful lot. |
| 08:58.00 | patrick-- | or are you beeing paid by o'reillys ? :P |
| 08:58.14 | jblack | don't be obnoxious. You might need my help later. |
| 08:58.24 | jblack | No, I'm ot being paid by them, or anyone else. Not even by you. =) |
| 08:58.25 | RockHound | *chuckle* |
| 08:58.26 | patrick-- | you're right :) |
| 08:58.51 | jblack | unless you're reading adverse. Then, I'm sure we can come to an arrangement. =) |
| 08:59.13 | patrick-- | sounds cool to me :) |
| 08:59.35 | jblack | I can give you a few hints to help set your compass, if you like. |
| 08:59.45 | patrick-- | yes would be great |
| 08:59.50 | jblack | Landmarks, so to speak.. |
| 09:00.14 | jblack | You know that * (asterisk) is a pbx. That's an excellent start (seriously. You have no idea how bad some people start off) |
| 09:00.14 | BBHoss | patrick--: do you have experience with linux shells? |
| 09:00.21 | patrick-- | BBHoss: yupp |
| 09:00.39 | sbingner | I'm reading adverse |
| 09:00.46 | patrick-- | jblack: thx :D |
| 09:00.57 | BBHoss | adverse? |
| 09:01.00 | sbingner | lol |
| 09:01.04 | jblack | There's predominantly 3 ways to hook lines up to *... via specialized pci cards (we call those zapatas), via sip (messy, firewall wrecking, sip), and iax2. |
| 09:01.06 | sbingner | IDK he asked |
| 09:01.12 | sbingner | I'm guessing he means averse |
| 09:01.13 | jblack | I know I mispelled it. Averse! |
| 09:01.35 | jblack | cut me ssome slack at 4am! :) |
| 09:01.41 | sbingner | hehe |
| 09:01.56 | sbingner | I've found that if you want a good ATA you'll need to use SIP though... |
| 09:02.02 | jblack | There are also what are called ATA adaptors, which take your old fashioned analog phones and turn them into sip devices. |
| 09:02.06 | sbingner | the IAX ata is neat... but it just doesn't cut it |
| 09:02.09 | BBHoss | patrick--: do you want analog(POTS),digital(PRI or BRI) or VoIP for your trunks (telco lines |
| 09:02.13 | jblack | sbingner: You're getting very good at reading my mind. |
| 09:02.20 | BBHoss | sbingner: no echo cancellation, no features either |
| 09:02.21 | sbingner | lol |
| 09:02.29 | BBHoss | also no g729 |
| 09:02.34 | patrick-- | okay, gimme a second |
| 09:02.47 | jblack | Yeah. That's a good place to start up.. First off, how do you want lines to come in. Second, what kind of phones do you want to use. |
| 09:02.50 | sbingner | BBHoss, there's one with g729 now... not iaxy, it's from s100u.com or something |
| 09:02.59 | BBHoss | ahh |
| 09:03.01 | patrick-- | we're planning on one of them ISDN BRI's that allows X connections |
| 09:03.10 | patrick-- | but for now im testing with 2 fritz ISDN cards |
| 09:03.12 | BBHoss | patrick--: what do you mean X |
| 09:03.20 | BBHoss | BRI is two connections |
| 09:03.24 | sbingner | X100P.com :p |
| 09:03.34 | BBHoss | fuck that |
| 09:03.37 | jblack | Ok, then you'll need a zapata device. YOu can google for various TDMs, or buy direct for digium. Expect to pay... $300-$500 for them, give or take. |
| 09:03.57 | BBHoss | i'll sell you a PRI card cheap !!!! :) |
| 09:04.06 | jblack | What kind of phones do you want to use? Soft phones, analog phones, or IP phones? |
| 09:04.26 | jblack | (by ip phones, I mean ethernet) |
| 09:04.29 | sbingner | patrick--, what are you going to do with the lines once they're at the PBX? atas? ip phones? ... meh you beat me |
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| 09:04.38 | patrick-- | erm |
| 09:04.44 | patrick-- | would you just keep it to one? |
| 09:04.47 | jblack | You're not limited to one particular type. |
| 09:05.04 | patrick-- | i ment |
| 09:05.06 | BBHoss | just get IP phones |
| 09:05.09 | patrick-- | one person asking |
| 09:05.10 | sbingner | I use some zap hardware for local lines, some ATAs and some pure IP |
| 09:05.12 | jblack | However, buying an 8 port FXS adaptor and then buying an 8 port ATA is generally... well, like buying a car and a truck at the same time. |
| 09:05.12 | BBHoss | polycom 430s |
| 09:05.31 | BBHoss | FXS is too expensive for * |
| 09:05.37 | sbingner | patrick--, lol sorry |
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| 09:11.00 | J4k3 | hrm... what asterisk needs is a good cheap USB (or PCI-E, maybe) DECT 'access point' |
| 09:11.51 | BBHoss | J4k3: hell yes |
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| 09:12.36 | J4k3 | and, a friend and I were discussing this the other day, and I didn't know the answer... |
| 09:12.40 | J4k3 | lets say you've got a pci-e 16x slot |
| 09:12.50 | J4k3 | and you've got, say, 16 pci-e 1x devices you want to plug in |
| 09:13.22 | BBHoss | 16? |
| 09:13.27 | J4k3 | could one make a passive-ish pci-e 16x to 16x pci-e 1x bus adapter? |
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| 09:14.15 | BBHoss | first, why would you want 16 pci-e cards |
| 09:14.23 | sbingner | couldn't you just extend the bus? |
| 09:14.23 | J4k3 | sometimes strange things happen |
| 09:14.25 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 09:14.34 | sbingner | I mean.. it US a bus |
| 09:14.37 | sbingner | IS |
| 09:14.41 | J4k3 | sbingner: well, thats what I'm thinking... a cheap way to extend the bus by using the 'video slot' |
| 09:15.01 | J4k3 | right now my server has two 1x broadcom ethernet adapters in the 4x and 16x slots.. work great |
| 09:15.24 | sbingner | you shouldn't need to adapt from 16x to 1x tho, right? isn't 16x backwards-compatible? |
| 09:15.30 | sbingner | yea |
| 09:15.46 | J4k3 | but I'm wondering if you can break out all 16 lanes seperately |
| 09:15.50 | BBHoss | exactly |
| 09:15.52 | J4k3 | and use them on 16 seperate 1x adapters |
| 09:16.04 | BBHoss | im sure its possible, dont know the work it would involve |
| 09:16.07 | sbingner | it's not 16 lanes tho is it? isn't it just 16x the speed of 1x? |
| 09:16.22 | J4k3 | I think its 16 lanes at the same speed |
| 09:16.31 | BBHoss | yes it is |
| 09:16.32 | sbingner | hmm, that would be interesting |
| 09:16.37 | J4k3 | uses multilink ppp! ;) |
| 09:16.46 | J4k3 | 'shotgun' technology |
| 09:16.47 | sbingner | yea if you extended it you 'd just have 16 devices using the same 1x then :( |
| 09:16.49 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 09:17.10 | sbingner | unless it lets you connect to any of them? |
| 09:17.21 | sbingner | try it, see if you fry stuff hehe |
| 09:17.38 | J4k3 | well |
| 09:17.45 | J4k3 | it wouldn't be that hard to try |
| 09:18.00 | BBHoss | sbingner: no hes saying split 16X to 16 1X |
| 09:18.14 | sbingner | BBHoss, I know... simplest way would be to just wire up the 16 lines to different slots |
| 09:18.31 | sbingner | if that works |
| 09:18.31 | J4k3 | the issue would be attaching all the cards without any of them hitting the maximum wiring lengths ;) |
| 09:18.39 | sbingner | lol |
| 09:19.46 | BBHoss | http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/467484 |
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| 09:21.02 | sbingner | that only gives you 4x total out of the box tho |
| 09:21.07 | J4k3 | hrm... they're using some sort of controller in between |
| 09:21.46 | BBHoss | got a problem, the 16X slot runs to the MCH whereas the 1X slots go to the ICH |
| 09:21.50 | J4k3 | http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_PCI_Express_16x_PinOut.html |
| 09:22.34 | J4k3 | shouldn't matter, data is data in this case (like right now, i've got a broadcom ethernet card in my g33's x16 slot) |
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| 09:22.38 | BBHoss | no way to split 16x then without something active |
| 09:22.45 | J4k3 | well yeah |
| 09:23.03 | J4k3 | need power, need timing split out |
| 09:23.17 | BBHoss | and if you're dealing with a shit load of IRQ interrupts, you'll have trouble with that |
| 09:23.36 | jblack | woot. 2.6.24 is out. Anybody willing to sacrifice their systems with the bleeding edge of newness? |
| 09:23.40 | BBHoss | not to mention it goes into a different part of the mobo, the MCH, whereas normal ports to to the ICH |
| 09:23.53 | sbingner | jblack, hell no I learned that long ago :p |
| 09:23.56 | J4k3 | well, it doesn't appear pci-e uses seperate physical lines for the interrupt |
| 09:25.05 | J4k3 | need to locate a craptacular pci-e capable board and a pci-e 1x device I don't care about |
| 09:25.07 | jblack | sbingner: darn. Cause I'll be dammed if it's my turn to take point and bleed again. |
| 09:25.07 | sbingner | it seems to only have different lines for xmit and recieve |
| 09:25.16 | sbingner | need some way to change what line it says it's using probably |
| 09:25.21 | J4k3 | hack the wiring up to connect to all the same timing pins, and like, say, lane 15's data pins. |
| 09:25.55 | sbingner | theere is only one timing reference I see... |
| 09:26.42 | sbingner | SMBus data or something - it probably says "I'm going to transmit on line X |
| 09:26.43 | sbingner | or some crap |
| 09:26.57 | J4k3 | it appears all the busses move data all the time |
| 09:27.02 | J4k3 | from the description |
| 09:27.06 | sbingner | yea |
| 09:27.19 | sbingner | but it needs to know where the data is coming from, and if it can transmit at a particular time |
| 09:27.24 | J4k3 | yeah |
| 09:27.25 | J4k3 | http://www.interfacebus.com/Design_Connector_Smbus.html |
| 09:27.33 | sbingner | the question is if that is determined via the bus line or the control line |
| 09:27.40 | J4k3 | smbus is only for low speed stuff |
| 09:27.45 | J4k3 | its only 100khz |
| 09:27.53 | jblack | As is anything with smb in the name. ;) |
| 09:27.59 | sbingner | lol |
| 09:28.07 | J4k3 | ohsnaps |
| 09:28.11 | sbingner | so there's a good chance it just listens for silence on the line and dumps? |
| 09:28.38 | sbingner | 100khz might not even be enough for the signalling I'd think |
| 09:28.41 | J4k3 | ok, theres only one hotplug detect pin per connector |
| 09:29.00 | J4k3 | that might be an issue, maybe |
| 09:29.06 | BBHoss | http://www.etailelectronics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=13405&Category_Code=ControllerCards&Store_Code=etail |
| 09:29.08 | sbingner | you planning on hotplugging? |
| 09:29.13 | J4k3 | losing hotplug-ability for such a thing isn't a big deal |
| 09:29.14 | J4k3 | no |
| 09:29.23 | nebojsajsimic | how to uninstall asterisk ??? |
| 09:29.57 | sbingner | nebojsajsimic, rm |
| 09:30.03 | J4k3 | BBHoss: same thing on that.... 1x to the system, 4 1x's in the box. |
| 09:30.12 | BBHoss | yeah thats odd |
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| 09:30.24 | J4k3 | must have some sort of bus controller in the middle |
| 09:30.38 | sbingner | for that they wouldn't need it... just extending the bus yea |
| 09:30.47 | sbingner | they all use the same 1x |
| 09:32.01 | sbingner | erm |
| 09:32.02 | J4k3 | these are breaking out into seperate boxes too... I'm thinking an actual riser card |
| 09:33.08 | sbingner | you gotta let me know if you try it - sam -@t- bingner.com ;) ... |
| 09:33.17 | sbingner | sleep time tho |
| 09:34.12 | jblack | patrick--: If you find you don't like reading, you can try my C.lose O.bnoxious N.ew T.exts - R.ealize A.mazing C.ool T.hings system. |
| 09:34.50 | jblack | With C.O.N.T.R.A.C.T., you can free yourself from the shackles of learning something on your own, and just get straight to having new stuff. :) |
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| 09:36.04 | jblack | Basically, for the right price, you can collapse that entire book to something the size of about five pages. =) |
| 09:36.23 | patrick-- | :) |
| 09:36.59 | patrick-- | nah im fine :) |
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| 09:37.08 | dr_nick | hi |
| 09:37.08 | patrick-- | ill just have to print the 280+ pages :D |
| 09:37.12 | jblack | I think you're very wise. |
| 09:37.23 | jblack | Heh. buy the book. really. :) |
| 09:37.34 | patrick-- | whats the big difference? |
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| 09:37.57 | J4k3 | http://www.etailelectronics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=13405&Category_Code=ControllerCards&Store_Code=etail |
| 09:38.00 | J4k3 | err |
| 09:38.03 | J4k3 | The LVDS graphic above indicates a 1-meter length, but the PCIe specification only allows a 20 inch trace. Refer to the LVDS page for additional information. The new pending PCIe version 2.0 supports cables up to 10 meters in length running at 2.5 Gb/s. |
| 09:38.09 | J4k3 | woo, bus length is quite liberal |
| 09:38.17 | jblack | the big difference is you're gonna want the other 250 pages. As an added bonus, the pages will all be glued together on one side. |
| 09:38.38 | patrick-- | well |
| 09:38.55 | patrick-- | i'd print all pages as 2 per page |
| 09:39.03 | patrick-- | so ill basically have a printed version of the book |
| 09:39.22 | jblack | Ok. What do I know... |
| 09:39.28 | patrick-- | nah |
| 09:39.32 | BBHoss | patrick--: just order the book dude :) |
| 09:39.33 | patrick-- | im glad for any advice |
| 09:39.37 | FlatFoot | morning all |
| 09:39.44 | patrick-- | BBHoss: who asked u? |
| 09:40.14 | BBHoss | thats the advantage with me, you don't have to ask for my opinion :) |
| 09:40.21 | patrick-- | that sux :P |
| 09:40.40 | BBHoss | just get a BRI card that works with * |
| 09:40.45 | patrick-- | dude |
| 09:40.47 | BBHoss | then get some IP phones |
| 09:40.51 | BBHoss | 430s |
| 09:40.51 | jblack | Ok. My advice is to spend the $50 for the documentation on a system that is crucial to your business. It'll make your life just a little bit easier, and help you get just a little bit better at what you're doing. It also helps support the people that wrote the documentation in the first place (thusly encouraging them to write latter editions) |
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| 09:40.56 | J4k3 | Grandstream (tm) 4 Life (tm) |
| 09:40.57 | J4k3 | haha |
| 09:41.11 | Faustov | hi guys, which of the following dtmf is RFC 2833 compliant? Info, inband, avt? |
| 09:41.13 | jblack | Pennywise and pound foolish, and all. |
| 09:41.19 | FlatFoot | anyone got exp with TE210P in the uk ? |
| 09:41.39 | BBHoss | Faustov: you want to use rfc2833 if you want rfc2833 |
| 09:41.46 | jblack | Faustov: Aren't those competitors to rfc 2833? |
| 09:42.22 | BBHoss | heh |
| 09:42.28 | Faustov | i didn't know |
| 09:42.39 | Faustov | funny, no rfc2833 on linksys phones |
| 09:42.40 | BBHoss | use dtmf=rfc2833 |
| 09:42.52 | jblack | Oh. THought you were quizing. Just use rfc2833 and be done with it. ;) |
| 09:43.01 | jblack | On your linksys what? |
| 09:43.02 | Faustov | well i wanted |
| 09:43.21 | Faustov | i set dtmfmode=rfc2833 on all my asterisk servers |
| 09:43.28 | Faustov | but then i got these new linksys voip phones |
| 09:43.34 | jblack | What linksys do you have? |
| 09:43.37 | Faustov | which dont have rfc2833 on their list |
| 09:44.01 | BBHoss | SPA941, SPA942 and SPA 962 have rfc2833 |
| 09:44.12 | Faustov | spa921 |
| 09:44.41 | Faustov | luckily i can see option "auto" on them, which according to some manuals, should allow rfc2833 if offered |
| 09:45.07 | BBHoss | on voiplink.com it says it supports rfc 2833 and sip info |
| 09:45.22 | jblack | hold |
| 09:45.41 | jblack | That phone does rfc2833 |
| 09:45.55 | BBHoss | as does the pdf |
| 09:45.57 | Faustov | why is it not on the list then... |
| 09:46.32 | yang | I am wondering what I can do with an HFC-S card to enable echo cancelation? |
| 09:46.37 | jblack | because it's misnamed |
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| 09:46.59 | BBHoss | Faustov: what list |
| 09:47.04 | disposable | does h.323 also use RTP for voice data? |
| 09:47.07 | jblack | Do you have out of band as an option? |
| 09:47.09 | BBHoss | oh the dropdown box |
| 09:47.43 | Faustov | i have: "inband, avt, info, auto, inband + info, avt + info" |
| 09:48.19 | BBHoss | wtf is avt? |
| 09:48.31 | Faustov | no idea, first time i see it myself |
| 09:48.37 | jblack | wow. Look what I found when I searched for "spa921 asterisk setup" : http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/linksys_921.html |
| 09:49.15 | BBHoss | avt is rfc2833 for some reason |
| 09:49.54 | Faustov | BBHoss: u sure? |
| 09:49.56 | jblack | BBHos is right. I found it just after he said it |
| 09:50.03 | BBHoss | http://forum.voxilla.com/voip-wiki/using-linksys-sipura-spa-asterisk-24181.html |
| 09:50.03 | Faustov | hmmm |
| 09:50.06 | Faustov | ok, lets test |
| 09:50.58 | yang | This is my zapata.conf http://openpaste.org/en/4820/ , the incoming echo is really bad, I am using asterisk 1.2.13+bristuff |
| 09:51.58 | jblack | yang: Turn on echo cancellation. If it's already on, turn it off. |
| 09:52.16 | jblack | disable all that echo stuff and try that |
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| 09:52.50 | jblack | when i first started, I turned on echo cancellation at first, and got bad echos on everything. They went away once I turned it off |
| 09:53.18 | BBHoss | heh AVT is the draft name for 2833 |
| 09:54.00 | jblack | sorry for misleading you originally, faustov. I didn't know that. |
| 09:54.06 | yang | jblack: so echocancel=no & echocancelwhenbridged=no |
| 09:54.18 | BBHoss | 2833 was written is 2000, why the hell is linksys using avt? |
| 09:54.28 | yang | i don't think it will disable it, becouse i had it like that before |
| 09:54.34 | jblack | BBHoss: they like names rather than rfc numbers? |
| 09:54.53 | jblack | yang: it's not going to kill you to comment them out and try. |
| 09:54.56 | BBHoss | rfc2833 is the standard though |
| 09:55.08 | jblack | BBHoss: An rfc is not a standard. It's a request for comments. :) |
| 09:55.29 | BBHoss | yeah but its used as a standard |
| 09:55.39 | jblack | as are many rfcs. |
| 09:55.59 | jblack | SMTP is still based upon an RFC, and it's been ... I don't know how many years. |
| 09:56.15 | BBHoss | point being, why use a cryptic name that nobody has used in nearly ten years |
| 09:56.20 | jblack | Mostly because once an RFC becomes a standard, you have to buy the standard to read it. |
| 09:56.31 | yang | jblack: i tried, bad result |
| 09:56.32 | jblack | The RFC, though, is free. |
| 09:56.41 | jblack | yang: Ok. That was my only idea. |
| 09:56.58 | Faustov | jblack: no probs, looks ok now |
| 09:57.21 | jblack | So us unixy types, being cheap like we are, use the last RFC, which is usually identical to the standard. |
| 09:57.25 | yang | jblack: this is the message from CLI http://openpaste.org/en/4821/ |
| 09:57.37 | jblack | yang: I'm already out of answers. |
| 09:57.49 | BBHoss | i think avt stands for audio-video transport possibly |
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| 09:58.37 | jblack | I don't see any problems in your paste, other than a warning that you haven't set the optional sqlite3 config properly |
| 09:59.00 | jblack | BBHoss: Perhaps it means AMAZING VOICE TECHNOLOGY ? |
| 09:59.16 | BBHoss | yang: you could try calling support |
| 09:59.44 | yang | BBHoss: which support? |
| 09:59.58 | BBHoss | for whoever makes your card |
| 10:00.04 | yang | oh |
| 10:00.12 | BBHoss | what brand is it? |
| 10:00.18 | yang | Its a 20 Euro BRI card, no wonder it doesnt work properly |
| 10:00.27 | yang | usually BRI cards are 300+ euros |
| 10:00.31 | jblack | as it happens, though, you're right. It does stand for Audio/Video Transport, at least as lately as 2833-15 |
| 10:00.33 | BBHoss | yeah, dump it |
| 10:00.55 | yang | it has a HFC-S chip on it |
| 10:01.06 | jblack | Which expired back on December 17. |
| 10:01.10 | jblack | Oh dear, we're specless! |
| 10:01.11 | yang | however we tested HFC-4S this one works better, but it also costs more |
| 10:01.43 | BBHoss | so this is a twenty port bri card? |
| 10:01.51 | BBHoss | does that mean 20 ports or 20 channels? |
| 10:01.56 | BBHoss | fuck |
| 10:01.58 | BBHoss | nm |
| 10:02.18 | BBHoss | try the digium cards, or the sangomas if you want quality |
| 10:02.40 | yang | 20 Euros, 1 port - 2 channels |
| 10:02.52 | yang | my boss tries to save on costs |
| 10:03.03 | BBHoss | fool |
| 10:03.11 | BBHoss | do you do business over the phone? |
| 10:03.38 | yang | well, he is thinking about making a cheap asterisk configuration with a 20 euro bri card, and reselling it |
| 10:03.38 | jblack | Not for long... :) |
| 10:03.55 | BBHoss | heh |
| 10:04.27 | jblack | yang: Did you talk to your boss about the potential liability of interfering with emergency calls? |
| 10:04.29 | yang | i guess there aren't many other settings which could do echo cancelation... |
| 10:04.56 | yang | interferring? |
| 10:05.09 | BBHoss | you really ought to be using hardware dsp for echo cancellation |
| 10:05.19 | yang | ok |
| 10:05.28 | jblack | Imagine if Uncle Frank dies because no one was able to call the hospital, because it's just then that the $50 euro piece of crap you guys sold him failed. |
| 10:05.43 | yang | you know when i call outside, the other side hears me well, but i do hear echoing from him |
| 10:06.40 | yang | Well maybe its possible to convince it to work |
| 10:06.42 | yang | I dont know |
| 10:06.56 | yang | I just know that HFC-4S works well |
| 10:07.07 | jblack | If you're going to make crap, make a crap HDDVD/Blueray combo player. No one's life will be at risk. Phones need to work reliably, because that's how people get help when... 1) when someon is hurt 2) when there's a fire 3) When someone is breaking into one's home 4) to be contacted if your child gets sent home with measels |
| 10:08.33 | yang | would it help if i change signalling from signalling=bri_cpe to fxo_ls |
| 10:09.33 | BBHoss | that wouldnt work |
| 10:09.44 | Alexandre_fr | if it's a bri card use bri signaling :) |
| 10:09.45 | BBHoss | youre using a bri card, not fxo loopstart |
| 10:10.07 | yang | well HFC-4S uses fxo_ls as i can see from that config |
| 10:11.29 | yang | The HFC-S mini is a single-chip ISDN S/T HDLC basic rate controller for embedded applications. |
| 10:11.44 | yang | http://www.colognechip.com/isdn/controllers/frame-hfc-s-mini.htm |
| 10:13.25 | BBHoss | why not XHFC-1SU |
| 10:14.15 | yang | well |
| 10:14.42 | yang | all the other cards are arund 300 EURO and for that price we can get a Sangoma A500 allready with 2 ports |
| 10:15.25 | disposable | does h.323 also use RTP for voice data? |
| 10:16.01 | BBHoss | http://fourfin.postino.be/dev |
| 10:16.04 | BBHoss | disposable: yes |
| 10:16.13 | disposable | BBHoss, thank you |
| 10:16.24 | BBHoss | disposable: good luck with 323, its a bit run down |
| 10:16.29 | BBHoss | or dilapidated |
| 10:17.23 | disposable | BBHoss, i just need to compare h323 to sip for my thesis. |
| 10:17.44 | jblack | hmmm. |
| 10:17.44 | BBHoss | disposable: i dunno if i would use the * implementation |
| 10:17.49 | jblack | The rfc's would probably help |
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| 10:17.56 | BBHoss | yang: check this shit out http://blog.astfin.org/?p=36 |
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| 10:20.56 | nebojsajsimic | how to uninstal or delete asterisk 1.6 and zap 1.6 and lib1.6 ??? |
| 10:21.11 | nebojsajsimic | i want to install 1.4 ... |
| 10:21.13 | BBHoss | disposable: there are some articles on IEEE i belive as well |
| 10:21.30 | nebojsajsimic | on fedora 7 |
| 10:21.38 | nebojsajsimic | is that option ????? |
| 10:22.13 | BBHoss | is there even a branch for 1.6 or did you get trunk |
| 10:23.18 | yang | BBHoss: there is no price on that product |
| 10:23.47 | BBHoss | still developing though |
| 10:25.20 | BBHoss | yang: estimated price is 400 euro, for DUAL PRI! |
| 10:26.08 | BBHoss | BRI isnt done yet |
| 10:26.40 | BBHoss | you would be better off giving money to them to help speed up work, then use their design and get it manufactured |
| 10:26.40 | disposable | BBHoss, unfortunately IEEE documents are like pay per view tv. you pay, you regret |
| 10:26.59 | steliosk | the issues with the single port hfc's have to do more with the driver than the chip itself |
| 10:27.04 | BBHoss | disposable: ? do you not have unlimited access |
| 10:28.18 | steliosk | when you get 8000 int's a sec times the number of cards you have you see the picture |
| 10:28.28 | yang | BBHoss: i guess that is not a high price |
| 10:29.04 | BBHoss | hell no, ~$800USD for dual T1 appliance, lets see digium pull that one off |
| 10:29.44 | steliosk | it can get lower than that :) |
| 10:30.31 | steliosk | we run asterisk on an fpga and do echo can and g729 transcoding on that |
| 10:30.41 | BBHoss | what kind of fpga? |
| 10:30.50 | steliosk | xilinx virtex 4 |
| 10:30.55 | BBHoss | ahh |
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| 10:31.37 | morex | Hi there |
| 10:31.45 | steliosk | i did a presentation about it on the last astricon |
| 10:31.46 | morex | Got a question about SIP |
| 10:31.57 | morex | We're working with an Avaya SIP gateway |
| 10:32.05 | morex | Got the SIP connection together |
| 10:32.12 | BBHoss | steliosk: damn im gonna have to go to the next one, sounds like a blast |
| 10:32.13 | morex | But when we get a call in from the Avaya gateway |
| 10:32.26 | morex | we only send one RTP packet back when the call is answered |
| 10:32.27 | BBHoss | steliosk: wish i had a job that would pay my way :) |
| 10:32.33 | morex | We get loads from them though... |
| 10:32.41 | morex | Any ideas? |
| 10:33.20 | BBHoss | avayas are a PITA :) |
| 10:33.39 | steliosk | BBHoss : We did it as a proof of concept to test tools, technology etc |
| 10:35.12 | BBHoss | awesome |
| 10:35.13 | steliosk | BBHoss : you could even move the hdlc part on the fpga itself and save your self even more money by not using a pri chip :) |
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| 10:35.51 | BBHoss | shit september, school :( |
| 10:36.40 | BBHoss | maybe i'll be rich by then and won't need school |
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| 10:36.59 | nebojsajsimic | how i can uninstall Asterisk ??? |
| 10:37.10 | nebojsajsimic | and all package with it |
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| 10:54.32 | RockHound | nebojsajsimic: from where? self compiled? |
| 10:55.08 | FlatFoot | hello all can anyone help with TON type settings ? i need to change mine but can't find too much info on the subject |
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| 12:00.54 | zeeesh | i don't hv zaptel hardware .. i hv installed zaptel-1.4.17 for meetme or call conference .. how to check "ztdummy installed or not ?" |
| 12:04.45 | jblack | lsmod |
| 12:08.11 | nebojsajsimic | Please for help i tring to instal asterisk 1.4.7 on Fedora 7 and i can't install it like service |
| 12:08.28 | nebojsajsimic | just 'service' dont see asterisk |
| 12:08.49 | nebojsajsimic | can some help me??? |
| 12:09.23 | nebojsajsimic | i install it step-by-step from "BOOK" |
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| 12:17.40 | jblack | anybody about that can take an receive a quick sip call? I'm checking to see if I can be less anal about canreinvite |
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| 12:20.50 | jblack | nebojsajsimic: You mean you installed from source? |
| 12:28.20 | kyron | nebojsajsimic, you might not have the proper startup script at the right place, that's the type of thing to expect from building from source and not using a distribution package. |
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| 12:34.21 | wurstdog | q |
| 12:35.11 | kyron | w |
| 12:35.18 | jblack | e |
| 12:35.22 | kyron | r |
| 12:35.42 | jblack | t |
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| 12:37.58 | wurstdog | whre to buy digiumcards? |
| 12:38.18 | jblack | digium.com |
| 12:38.27 | wurstdog | oh |
| 12:38.28 | wurstdog | ok |
| 12:38.36 | jblack | a |
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| 12:41.10 | jblack | 1 3 5 7 11 |
| 12:42.41 | kyron | damned..I missed y! |
| 12:42.52 | jblack | you did |
| 12:43.07 | kyron | jblack, prime.. |
| 12:43.31 | jblack | You're wrong. but that's ok, because I was wrong too. =) |
| 12:43.38 | jblack | 1 is not prime, and 2 is. |
| 12:44.05 | jblack | Try this... |
| 12:44.24 | jblack | 0 3 8 15 __ |
| 12:45.38 | jblack | I'll give another hint. |
| 12:45.52 | jblack | 0 3 8 15 __ 35 |
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| 12:56.14 | kyron | oops...haha...1 isn't prime! I suck. |
| 12:56.20 | kyron | hmmm |
| 12:56.43 | kyron | euhhhh |
| 12:57.58 | kyron | nope...don't see it |
| 12:58.41 | kyron | oh! |
| 12:58.42 | kyron | ohohoh |
| 12:58.43 | kyron | wait |
| 12:59.03 | kyron | 26... |
| 13:00.08 | kyron | uhm..no, that doesn't work ... I thought +3 +5 +7 +...hmm not prime heh... so should be +9=24 then +11=35 yeah...it works ;) |
| 13:00.20 | kyron | jblack, next |
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| 13:12.09 | Dr-Linux | Azam: hey there :) |
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| 13:17.10 | marc7 | hey, trying to work around NAT... if I put a router into a building... is it better to tunnel back to the principal asterisk server... or just run asterisk on that router, and have all the local clients peer to that router directly? |
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| 13:20.22 | mrpurple | i just instaled asteris on a NAS and i have read the pdf about how configure. the answer i did find is where and how i have to configure to make possible that my internal accounts take the voip external account to make a call ? |
| 13:20.37 | mrpurple | *asterisk |
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| 13:21.58 | shido6 | ZzZzZ |
| 13:25.18 | shido6 | ~sipnat |
| 13:25.19 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 13:25.20 | mrpurple | people here are sleeping ... ? :-D is that ? |
| 13:25.39 | marc7 | shido6: yeah... I'm working on the IP Tunneling Solution part of that page right now actually |
| 13:25.40 | shido6 | marc7 read that |
| 13:25.49 | abtronic | hi there |
| 13:25.55 | shido6 | dont want to just forward ports, eh, marc7 ? |
| 13:26.08 | abtronic | I am having a problem with DTMF reception, which I suspect is not asterisk's fault, but I'd like to confirm that |
| 13:26.09 | marc7 | shido6: 10 phones behind the router, no thank you. |
| 13:26.16 | shido6 | abtronic 1.4 ? |
| 13:26.29 | marc7 | i'd like to have the phones be able to TFTP directly from the remote site |
| 13:27.05 | abtronic | when I call asterisk from a soft-phone (linphone), DTMF in voicemail works, both with sip info and with rfc2833 sent from the softphone |
| 13:27.41 | shido6 | I would do ip tunnelling , too just for fun. then add a layer of encryption for anyone listening and pcap kiddy admins at isps |
| 13:27.41 | abtronic | when I call asterisk from the phone on my desk, which goes out through a cisco sip gateway, dtmf in voicemail does not work |
| 13:28.02 | abtronic | I've tried changing the dtmfmode in sip.conf to no avail |
| 13:28.26 | abtronic | and if I mash the phone keypad while recording a voicemail, I get no beeps, so I guess that means it's not sending dtmf inline |
| 13:28.34 | marc7 | shido6: yeah... I've been trying to get that setup working. I have a very serious deadline to get a solution working... two hours at the most. |
| 13:28.56 | abtronic | the remote end shows up as "Cisco-SIPGateway/IOS-12.x" |
| 13:29.03 | marc7 | shido6: I was trying to use OpenVPN as a tunnel between client and server sites... |
| 13:29.15 | abtronic | is this a known problem? any other tips or anything I could try on the asterisk side? |
| 13:29.48 | marc7 | I've been having tons of trouble setting up IP forwarding between hosts... I think I need to simplify the solution by tunneling directly to the asterisk server |
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| 13:34.28 | rafiks | hey! been reading asteriskdocs.org ,i'm at the basic dialplan setup.. got it to play but the sounds weird .. |
| 13:34.47 | rafiks | very choppy |
| 13:35.24 | rafiks | i have a linksys pap2t device and i also have twinkle setup.. but the sound thats coming out is the same |
| 13:36.14 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: What is the source of these "sounds"? |
| 13:37.09 | rafiks | a debian box .on my own network ..soundfile is tt-monkeys.gsm |
| 13:38.24 | rafiks | i setup the basic "hello world" dialplan as per asteriskdocs.org |
| 13:40.08 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: What GCC are you using to compile? I've heard of distortion problem like that for 4.2 |
| 13:40.43 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender : apt-got package |
| 13:40.52 | anonymouz666 | anyone in here using jiaxclient? |
| 13:41.04 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: is your access to the server for your SIP devices on the same local LAN? |
| 13:41.12 | rafiks | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.40 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: I'd say rip out your packages, download the source and compile yourself. |
| 13:41.43 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender : same lan.. 192.168.1.0 |
| 13:42.19 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: I could understand Twinkle flaking out, but not a hardware device like the PAP2 on local LAN. |
| 13:42.37 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender : will try from source.. would you recommend the bleeding edge version? |
| 13:42.41 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: so trash your * packages and compile it yourslef. 5 minutes well spent |
| 13:43.58 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: I recomment the latest HTTP distributed version. I never go from SVN |
| 13:43.58 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: so that'd be 1.4.17 and the rest as per the channel topic |
| 13:45.44 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender :ok.. thanks ,will try to compile .. |
| 13:45.54 | lmadsen | or: svn co http://svn |
| 13:45.56 | lmadsen | grrr |
| 13:46.17 | lmadsen | ... svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/tags/1.4.17 ./ |
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| 13:54.27 | mrpurple | i have a voip account with freecall. can i configure asterisk to use that for make external calls ? how ? |
| 13:56.45 | WindBack | Are there any problem to ru asterisk and zaptel in an debian AMD64?? |
| 13:57.19 | WindBack | I'm asking this, because I have problems with a aex800 board |
| 13:57.27 | [TK]D-Fender | mrpurple: Sure, go setup a peer & register entry for them in sip.conf. |
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| 13:57.41 | [TK]D-Fender | mrpurple: hardly different from any other ITSP |
| 13:57.51 | WindBack | And I have never run asterisk in an debian AMD64 |
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| 13:59.52 | SteveTotaro | anyone have any idea why two asterisk servers on the same switch would have very different result as far as ms in sip show peers |
| 14:00.05 | SteveTotaro | sip show peers 300ms |
| 14:00.23 | SteveTotaro | and on the other box, sip show peers 5ms |
| 14:00.48 | SteveTotaro | cpu, load avg, mem are all good |
| 14:00.59 | SteveTotaro | no error on ifconfig |
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| 14:01.13 | mrpurple | [TK]D-Fender: is like to create a sip proxy ? |
| 14:01.22 | SteveTotaro | asterisk 1.2.18 on both boxes |
| 14:01.28 | [TK]D-Fender | mrpurple: its like any other ITSP. |
| 14:01.42 | mrpurple | mhat is ITSP ? |
| 14:01.51 | mrpurple | sorry i'm new |
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| 14:02.53 | mrpurple | ITSP is like Frecall or any VOIP provider ? |
| 14:04.11 | Qwell | ~itsp |
| 14:04.17 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 14:04.57 | [TK]D-Fender | mrpurple: Time to go get THE BOOK and sit for some serious reading. |
| 14:04.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 14:04.59 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
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| 14:05.20 | [TK]D-Fender | mrpurple: And get some proactice by Signing up for Free World Dialup as well. |
| 14:06.01 | mrpurple | [TK]D-Fender: i'm reading that .. but the problem is language .. and also alot of new things .. |
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| 14:06.39 | mrpurple | i 'd create just something that can use my voip account .. form different internal phones |
| 14:07.52 | mrpurple | [TK]D-Fender: anyway thank you for the help .. |
| 14:08.17 | asr33 | hello guys, I was reading the pdf for configuring IAXy ATA: is there a way to give the IAXy a static ip and not require DHCP? |
| 14:10.31 | asr33 | I mean I know DHCP is required for starting it first time, after that permanent static IP? |
| 14:10.56 | rafiks | ~itsplist-us |
| 14:10.57 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, or http://www.jnctn.com, or http://www.bandwidth.com |
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| 14:11.35 | asr33 | ~itsplist-ca |
| 14:11.35 | jbot | [~itsplist-ca] Here are some popular ITSPs (Canada) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.unlimitel.com , http://www.les.net , http://www.babytel.ca |
| 14:13.20 | rafiks | hmm ;why does apt-get build-dep asterisk pullin a bunch of x11 packages. |
| 14:13.45 | rafiks | x11-common? |
| 14:14.18 | rafiks | oops ..is this "x11" Xorg? |
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| 14:16.47 | djc_ | presumably one of its apps (or its deps) has an x component so it builds the libraries |
| 14:17.00 | disposable | when will asterisk 1.2 branch support be dropped? |
| 14:17.09 | djc_ | you might be able to find the app that it depends on that depends on x, and install in manually, specifying it not to build the x component |
| 14:17.35 | djc_ | assuming you know how to chase dependencies on your system (debian, im guessing) |
| 14:18.04 | I-MOD | ok, i was told this isn't a dev question, so here goes: what is the proper behavior for dialing on a pri line with no extension (zap/g1 or zap/1)? what I see is that the group or channel identifier is passed over PRI so that the remote end looks for g1 or 1 as an extension |
| 14:18.05 | rafiks | djc_ : not really .. |
| 14:18.52 | I-MOD | my assumption would be that it should pass "" as the extension if one isn't specified |
| 14:19.42 | rafiks | djc_ : would happen to know why * depends on graphviz? |
| 14:19.51 | [TK]D-Fender | I-MOD: PASTEBIn your configs and CLI output to match |
| 14:20.26 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: let go of apt and jsut compile the source! |
| 14:20.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 14:20.31 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 14:20.39 | I-MOD | yeah, i know not to paste in channel |
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| 14:20.50 | I-MOD | :D |
| 14:21.14 | cjk | hi, how can i cut of the last digit of my extension? |
| 14:21.26 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender : i was thinking I could solve dependency hell via apt.. |
| 14:22.03 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender : last time I tried compiling asterisk ,it was looking for a bunch of dev packages |
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| 14:24.53 | asr33 | cjk: exten => _9NXXXXXX,1,Dial(${OUTBOUNDTRUNK}${EXTEN:1}} |
| 14:25.11 | asr33 | cjk: ${EXTEN:1} |
| 14:25.37 | ManxPower | asr33: We don't support GUIs here. |
| 14:26.00 | asr33 | gotcha |
| 14:26.14 | cjk | asr33: you sure, i think that cuts of the first one |
| 14:26.27 | asr33 | my bad? |
| 14:26.50 | asr33 | sorry cjk |
| 14:27.33 | asr33 | I don't have the answer |
| 14:28.41 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:33.35 | FlatFoot | anyone know how long a zap channel should take to clear after a call has finished ? |
| 14:33.54 | mcargile | This notice message in 1.6-beta1 is really annoying: "Hungup channel detected, running agi in dead mode." |
| 14:35.17 | mcargile | I have to run an agi in the h extension and my screen is full of these |
| 14:35.21 | marc7 | can anybody verify the success of the "IP Tunneling Solution" on http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions ? |
| 14:36.19 | mcargile | FlatFoot what kind of line are you using? |
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| 14:36.54 | ManxPower | FlatFoot: any where from less than a second all the way to never. |
| 14:36.56 | FlatFoot | euroisdn Q931e on a TE210P |
| 14:37.07 | ManxPower | That would be the less than a second. |
| 14:37.45 | FlatFoot | ManxPower: ta i think i have one dodgy channel and just wanted to check , can it be cleared manually ? |
| 14:38.07 | ManxPower | FlatFoot: you don't get "dodgy channels" on a PRI. |
| 14:38.14 | ManxPower | Chances are there is a dialplan issue. |
| 14:38.29 | mcargile | uhh that is not necessarilly true |
| 14:38.37 | ManxPower | Yes, there is a way, I think it's something like "zap hangup Zap/X" in 1.4 |
| 14:39.10 | mcargile | I had a carrier that would send a congestion on the D channel and still be playing audio on the B channel |
| 14:39.32 | ManxPower | mcargile: Only for one specific channel? |
| 14:39.49 | mcargile | no |
| 14:39.56 | mcargile | any of the B channels |
| 14:40.00 | ManxPower | So you did not have a "dodgy channel" then. |
| 14:40.10 | ManxPower | You just had a carrier that sucked. 8-) |
| 14:40.23 | mcargile | yeah basically |
| 14:40.36 | mcargile | but it looked like the channel would be stuck for 2 to 3 seconds |
| 14:40.44 | mcargile | after the congestion |
| 14:41.36 | mcargile | Asterisk would try and utilize the channel for dialing while there was audio on it and get all sorts of screwed up |
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| 14:44.09 | FlatFoot | ManxPower: channel 3 on span 1 seems to be causing a status UNKNOWN hangup failure and has held onto the call data for nearly an hour now |
| 14:44.38 | FlatFoot | i have an oddity where so far i hav seen three calls get this on the particular channel |
| 14:44.51 | ManxPower | FlatFoot: put the output of "show channels" or "core show channels" on pastebin.ca |
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| 14:46.03 | FlatFoot | http://www.pastebin.ca/872061 |
| 14:46.36 | FlatFoot | channels is showing clear |
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| 14:46.49 | FlatFoot | but when you look at the channel as pb it is not |
| 14:46.55 | ManxPower | FlatFoot: that looks like the output of "show channel Zap/X", which is not what I asked for and is totally useless to me. |
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| 14:47.23 | FlatFoot | sorry been typing that a lot force of mad fingers |
| 14:48.16 | FlatFoot | http://www.pastebin.ca/872067 |
| 14:49.15 | ManxPower | FlatFoot: "core show channels" DO IT DO IT!!!! Leave the word ZAP OUT OF IT!!!!! |
| 14:49.27 | ManxPower | I will NOT ask again. |
| 14:49.29 | FlatFoot | oh what a plank i am |
| 14:50.12 | FlatFoot | http://www.pastebin.ca/872069 |
| 14:51.34 | ManxPower | It looks to me like the device SIP/4371 is not hungup. |
| 14:52.09 | FlatFoot | unfortunately that device took a call just as i got the output |
| 14:52.09 | I-MOD | [TK]D-Fender, here are teh configs: http://pastebin.ca/872070 |
| 14:53.07 | I-MOD | i'll have to recreate it in a little bit to get the cli logs |
| 14:53.15 | ManxPower | Even if the zap channel was "stuck" the phone should notbe listed in the output of show channels |
| 14:53.21 | I-MOD | someone's been messing with my machines again :/ |
| 14:53.46 | FlatFoot | he is on the phone at the moe , when he finishes the call i will do it again |
| 14:54.08 | ManxPower | I assume Zap/1 is the "stuck channel" |
| 14:54.25 | FlatFoot | nah Zap/3 on span 1 |
| 14:54.47 | ManxPower | Then the channel is not in use if it's not in show channels |
| 14:55.12 | FlatFoot | ok so i'll have to look a bit further then |
| 14:55.40 | FlatFoot | ta for looking |
| 14:56.44 | FlatFoot | just seemed odd that calls coming in on this channel all seem to fail with UNKNOWN . I shall be watching the cli for the next few hours , see if it keeps happening |
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| 15:00.09 | lemanal | how do i configure what database Set( DB() ) in my dialplan stores to? |
| 15:00.18 | ManxPower | lemanal: you can't. |
| 15:00.29 | ManxPower | it stores it in the AstDB. That is it. |
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| 15:00.42 | Qwell | lemanal: if you want to store stuff into a "normal" database, look at func_odbc |
| 15:01.20 | lemanal | ah. great. thanks. I just got odbc working with postgres. |
| 15:03.56 | errr | Im trying to get my aastra 55i phones to ring with a diff ring for calls coming from their DID. I did: exten => 2936231,n,SIPAddHeader(Alert-Info: info=Bellcore-dr3) and I see in the sip debug that this info is added to the Invite, any idea what Im doing wrong cause no matter what my phone rings the same way |
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| 15:05.51 | ManxPower | errr: each phone uses the header differently. check the wiki, I suspect it will have useful information about this issue. |
| 15:06.06 | errr | ManxPower: thats where I got the info I am using.. |
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| 15:06.18 | ManxPower | The Wiki is also frequently wrong. |
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| 15:06.45 | errr | although it said to use info=<Bellcore-dr3> which I also tried and it didnt work either |
| 15:07.39 | errr | even the aastra admin guide says it will work but I figure Im doing something wrong. I was hoping someone in here used a 5x phone and had a solution :) |
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| 15:11.15 | cappiz | i tried o make a call, but i get no voice... what would be a common problem? the nat is working okey |
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| 15:11.58 | ZaVoid | hi all |
| 15:15.13 | [TK]D-Fender | cappiz: read up : |
| 15:15.14 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 15:15.15 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
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| 15:15.56 | Zeeek | hey now |
| 15:17.31 | Zeeek | has anyone seen the latest SIP/IAX hardphones from Allnet? They look better than the last series |
| 15:19.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: FUGLY <---- |
| 15:19.43 | Zeeek | nah. I think of new phones every time my IP500 reboots |
| 15:20.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: How often is it being rebooted, and why? |
| 15:20.09 | Zeeek | There is one totally irritating thing in the polycom menu system. I wonder if they ever fixed it? |
| 15:20.33 | Zeeek | When you go to "info" of a missed call, you can't exit without hitting "more" first |
| 15:20.50 | Zeeek | that is the worst interface I've ever seen |
| 15:21.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: Very minor point that could be made easier. |
| 15:21.05 | Zeeek | and it's omething you might use a lot during the day |
| 15:21.23 | Zeeek | I'm just waiting for someone to defend that small mistake |
| 15:21.33 | Zeeek | because if they do, they're FANBOIS |
| 15:21.47 | Zeeek | minor, NOT VERY minor |
| 15:21.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: its 1 extra keypress, and you should know to do it and become reflex anyways. Its very visible and intuitive. Jsut not in the fastest possible spot |
| 15:21.56 | Zeeek | irritating 20 times a day |
| 15:22.02 | lirakis | Zeeek: lol yeah .. i hate how slow polycoms are |
| 15:22.11 | Zeeek | YEAH, POLYCOMS SUCK!!!!! |
| 15:22.17 | Zeeek | they do sound decent tho |
| 15:22.51 | Zeeek | maybe it would lockup less if I updated the firmware I'm using from 1980 |
| 15:22.51 | lirakis | Zeeek: they are good, high quality phones.. the best infact. I just hate "using" them .. configuring etc. |
| 15:22.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: But the big question to people who hate it being "slow" : why is your phone rebooting so often in the first place. Mine stay nice and perfect for months and tend to reboot only when they lose power. |
| 15:23.09 | Zeeek | it reboots because I reboot it |
| 15:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | lirakis: Configuring is not "using" |
| 15:23.16 | Zeeek | after it LOCKS UP |
| 15:23.17 | lirakis | [TK]D-Fender: development and testing... i change line configurations all the time |
| 15:23.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: And why would you be doing that so often? |
| 15:23.26 | lirakis | [TK]D-Fender: i meant "using" and configuring |
| 15:23.41 | Zeeek | heh, when the channel is quiet, I know a few sure means of getting activity :) |
| 15:24.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: Go poke the lions at the zoo witha big stick :p |
| 15:24.07 | Zeeek | rebooting after it locks up? COmes naturally |
| 15:24.25 | Zeeek | either that or I can look at a military looking doorstop |
| 15:24.32 | Zeeek | with a NOT backlit LCD |
| 15:24.33 | lirakis | Zeeek: ive never even heard of allnet phones |
| 15:24.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: I've only been able to cause a Polycom to lock up once following a very speicif set of isntructions from someone who reported a failure. |
| 15:25.07 | Zeeek | it doesn't happen often enough to reproduce the circumcision^H^H stances |
| 15:25.21 | Zeeek | but when it does, 5 MINUTES to boot a phone? |
| 15:25.32 | Qwell | Zeeek: mine takes 7 :( |
| 15:25.40 | Zeeek | Good thing I can never find a hammer when I need one |
| 15:25.42 | plik | Zeeek: nearly as bad as cisco ;P |
| 15:25.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: 5? Mine boot in 2 or less. |
| 15:25.47 | Qwell | plik: worse |
| 15:25.51 | Qwell | plik: I timed it. |
| 15:26.10 | Zeeek | rebooting my ip500 brings down the 1.6 beta! |
| 15:26.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: OMG, what horrible things are you doing to yours that it loads like that? |
| 15:26.14 | Qwell | they raced...the Cisco won |
| 15:26.23 | fiXXXerMet | Any recommendations for a good iax2 provider? We tested out voipstreet and were not very happy. Looking at bandwidth.com but they seem to offer only sip. |
| 15:26.24 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: no idea, it takes quite a while for the network stuff though |
| 15:26.38 | Zeeek | voicepulse connect |
| 15:26.43 | plik | so whats good then?... snom? |
| 15:26.47 | Qwell | plik: Polycom |
| 15:26.50 | Qwell | just don't reboot them |
| 15:26.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: 1.6 beta brings itself down, it just decided it wanted company and invited your phone along-with ;) |
| 15:26.54 | plik | heh |
| 15:27.08 | Zeeek | actually, it runs nicely |
| 15:27.19 | Zeeek | I've tested it for at least 20 minutes at a time :) |
| 15:27.34 | Zeeek | of course I haven't been able to call out yet |
| 15:27.43 | Zeeek | ...or receive calls |
| 15:27.45 | fiXXXerMet | Zeeek: Were you recommending voicepulse to me? |
| 15:27.53 | Zeeek | but, damn, that demo is slick |
| 15:28.04 | Zeeek | fiXXXerMet yes |
| 15:28.11 | fiXXXerMet | Thanks |
| 15:28.17 | Zeeek | or Junction too |
| 15:28.17 | ZaVoid | morning Qwell |
| 15:28.18 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: And why are you focused on IAX2? |
| 15:28.23 | ZaVoid | morning [TK]D-Fender |
| 15:28.35 | Zeeek | BECAUSE POLYCOM doesn't do IAX of course |
| 15:28.46 | Zeeek | good reason |
| 15:28.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: Nothing of any quality does :p |
| 15:28.56 | Zeeek | oh, oh |
| 15:29.12 | Zeeek | I'm sorry, you're breaking up, I didn't get that? |
| 15:29.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: you should ditch yours and get an Atcom PA1688 based IAX2 phone :p |
| 15:29.28 | Zeeek | wh t di yo say? I cou h u |
| 15:29.46 | Zeeek | I have one of those, they rock! |
| 15:30.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: Or you could jsut shoot yourself in the foot and save the middle-man. |
| 15:30.02 | fiXXXerMet | [TK]D-Fender: From what I've read, it's a better protocol to use because it uses less bandwidth and only a single port? |
| 15:30.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: Or at least sink like them! |
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| 15:30.31 | Zeeek | fiXXXerMet many will argue about better, but try it in production to see if you like it. It works great for us |
| 15:30.46 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: what kind of bandwidth do you have and how many channels are you looking for? |
| 15:30.57 | Zeeek | [TK]D-Fender naw, they're very, very useful |
| 15:31.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: BLEH! |
| 15:31.21 | fiXXXerMet | We'll have about 40 phones at this location and we're upgrading our T1 to a Verizon FiOS (15 down, 5 up) line. |
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| 15:31.56 | Zeeek | does Verizon do a commercial grade fios service? |
| 15:32.02 | fiXXXerMet | Yup |
| 15:32.03 | Zeeek | with guarantee I mean? |
| 15:32.06 | fiXXXerMet | Er |
| 15:32.07 | Zeeek | cool |
| 15:32.11 | fiXXXerMet | They have a business package. |
| 15:32.12 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: you don't HAVE BW issues. IAX2 is the source of issues if you aren't in dire need of the BW savings |
| 15:32.33 | fiXXXerMet | Could you explain? How is it the source of issues? |
| 15:33.07 | Zeeek | fiXXXerMet you should read some of the mailing list for that, too. Some people have had a lot of problems, others swear by it |
| 15:33.21 | [TK]D-Fender | fiXXXerMet: your link becomes disrupted you lose ALL calls over it, it does not survive large number of simultaneous channels, audio issues, etc. |
| 15:33.38 | Zeeek | I have not had issues (except if you consider my Polycom SIP phone locking up because of IAX) |
| 15:34.03 | Zeeek | Yes, maybe the key is we never do more than 2 calls at once |
| 15:34.08 | drmessano | A SIP phone locking up because of IAX? |
| 15:34.09 | fiXXXerMet | audio issues, eh? We are having a number of those. |
| 15:34.19 | Zeeek | drmessano you had to be there! |
| 15:34.24 | fiXXXerMet | I guess i"ll sign up for a test account. Thanks again. |
| 15:34.32 | drmessano | Yes, seems like it |
| 15:34.36 | Zeeek | fiXXXerMet test account is a good way to go |
| 15:34.51 | drmessano | O.o |
| 15:34.57 | Zeeek | is anyone thirsty? I am |
| 15:35.05 | fiXXXerMet | I am |
| 15:35.29 | jameswf | I am nver thirsty we have bar maids :) |
| 15:35.30 | Zeeek | by the ay, someone asked about the Allnet: http://food4wine.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=1348225%3ABlogPost%3A3501 |
| 15:36.09 | Qwell | Allnet? |
| 15:36.17 | Zeeek | whatever |
| 15:36.26 | Qwell | oh, those phones |
| 15:36.37 | Qwell | they appear to be Cisco knockoffs |
| 15:36.39 | Zeeek | If I understood right, the phione will do both on different lines |
| 15:36.49 | Zeeek | they look a lot better than the old series |
| 15:37.02 | Qwell | looks interesting |
| 15:37.18 | Zeeek | I'll be reviewing one next week |
| 15:37.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: Better? Yeah, this shit is slighlty better than their old CRAP :p |
| 15:37.28 | Qwell | Zeeek: let me know if it runs Skinny ;) |
| 15:38.11 | Zeeek | sure ;) |
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| 15:39.25 | jameswf | wow the new dell fonality system is $10,000 for 25 users.... I am on the wrong side of this :) |
| 15:40.03 | jameswf | using "fonalities" open source software |
| 15:40.10 | [TK]D-Fender | so much better than buying a proprietary licensed PBX! |
| 15:40.17 | [TK]D-Fender | oh wait... |
| 15:40.22 | [TK]D-Fender | No, it isn't |
| 15:40.24 | Qwell | yes, whoever wrote that foncore stuff is super awesome |
| 15:40.59 | jameswf | digium got a mention but only as a competitor not as the author of the backbone lol |
| 15:41.03 | Zeeek | get your barmaid over here, I'm still thirsty |
| 15:41.31 | Qwell | jameswf: I'm surprised they didn't go with your hardware, to be honest |
| 15:41.40 | Zeeek | Digium? I don't recall...? |
| 15:41.56 | Zeeek | Sounds like of the them Web 2.0 names? |
| 15:42.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: "Fonality" : isn't this a finishing move in Mortal Kombat where a leech-like VAR takes an OSS packages and uses them to eviscerate their customers freedom and bank account? |
| 15:42.11 | jameswf | Actualy the lead engineer at fonality is in bed with sangoma, they prefer to only use us for chanelbanks |
| 15:42.19 | cappiz | back, anyone? |
| 15:42.36 | Qwell | jameswf: ahh |
| 15:42.51 | jameswf | I have web 2.0 it came in an package update |
| 15:43.02 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf: Well Rhino's are pretty much "set&forget" |
| 15:43.31 | jameswf | Yeah we are going to get that ronco guy to do our infomercials |
| 15:43.40 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf: that IS him. |
| 15:43.43 | Qwell | rhino...ronco.. same thing |
| 15:43.53 | [TK]D-Fender | hukt on fonix werkt 4 u! |
| 15:43.53 | Zeeek | ronco's dead isn't he? |
| 15:43.54 | file | foncore! |
| 15:44.01 | Zeeek | or was that Ron Popeil? |
| 15:44.03 | Qwell | file: indeed, it's the new rage |
| 15:44.15 | Qwell | tons of google hits for "foncore" |
| 15:45.25 | jameswf | I tell people I prefer you buy our stuff but if you must go elsewhere go digium because we play on the same field, sangoma is like that uncle who comes in and lives off you until your emotionaly and financialy bankrupt then they move on... |
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| 15:46.31 | jameswf | any company who promotes windows products then aims at the OS market for a paycheck but without contribution can suck my grass |
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| 15:48.26 | dandre | hello, |
| 15:48.54 | dandre | Where can I find an asterisk logo in png format? |
| 15:49.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ~asterisktrademark |
| 15:49.46 | jbot | [~asterisktrademark] See http://www.digium.com/en/company/view-policy/5 for Digium's trademark policy. |
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| 15:52.11 | FlatFoot | anyone had experience with Seimens C460IP ? was looking to buy some |
| 15:52.17 | Zeeek | VUC needs a vict^H^H guest today! Who wants to come and talk about your product or service? Besides Digium, who are always kind enough to be there :) |
| 15:52.36 | Zeeek | VUC: http://www.VoipUsersConference.org |
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| 15:54.02 | [TK]D-Fender | FlatFoot: http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_7622.html |
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| 15:55.01 | FlatFoot | [TK]D-Fender: one must show ones gratitude for your attention , ta muchly |
| 15:55.35 | [TK]D-Fender | FlatFoot: The general word I've head for Seimens SPI/DECT stuff is "pretty decent" |
| 15:55.39 | [TK]D-Fender | heard* |
| 15:55.49 | [TK]D-Fender | FlatFoot: No personaly experience mind you. |
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| 15:56.05 | Zeeek | I deplore the Seimens DECT line |
| 15:56.09 | Zeeek | formally |
| 15:56.18 | lirakis | how does asterisk handle sip redirect messages? |
| 15:56.20 | FlatFoot | [TK]D-Fender: we are looking for something to sell to our radio customers for our home VOIP service |
| 15:56.28 | lirakis | it doesnt seem to actually.. follow them |
| 15:56.48 | FlatFoot | these looked like a good option as they are only £60.00 each |
| 15:59.56 | *** part/#asterisk Alexandre_fr (n=alex@nat04-bzr.dys1.com) |
| 16:02.27 | moellerdk | Hi everyone! I'm configuring a PRI and having a small problem. Everything works, but there is a quite strong cracking sound on the calling end of the line. Any ideas? |
| 16:08.26 | zeeesh | getting this msg wil anybody help |
| 16:08.42 | zeeesh | WARNING[8769]: app_meetme.c:769 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo device |
| 16:08.42 | zeeesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.42 | zeeesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.53 | Zeeek | my cloe,n is here |
| 16:09.57 | FlatFoot | Zeeek: did you have a bad exp with seimens then ? |
| 16:10.16 | Zeeek | I'm talking about regular home DECT phones over here in the EU tho |
| 16:10.27 | FlatFoot | yeah i am uk based |
| 16:10.47 | Zeeek | well, for example, siemens phones do'nt ring properly on digium hw |
| 16:10.53 | [TK]D-Fender | zeeesh: Go set up a zaptel timing source |
| 16:11.33 | Zeeek | zeesh there is a trademark law preventing you from using the first four letters of my login! Change immediatly or I will call my lawyers! |
| 16:11.56 | Zeeek | I give you points for not using the capital though ;) |
| 16:11.57 | Nugget | http://royal.pingdom.com/?p=240 <-- bofh porn. |
| 16:12.11 | *** part/#asterisk abtronic (n=andrewb@ikdesk12.inf.ethz.ch) |
| 16:12.45 | Qwell | Nugget: O.o |
| 16:13.41 | FlatFoot | Nugget: there is nothing to trip over ! i like tripping over in the server room |
| 16:13.56 | FlatFoot | lay knocked out on the floor under the AC |
| 16:14.11 | *** join/#asterisk umay (n=chris@71-208-162-10.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 16:14.17 | [TK]D-Fender | My server-room is a death-trap only I know how to navigate safely. It ensures job-security |
| 16:16.14 | Zeeek | Please consider joining us on the Aste^H^H VoIP USers COnference in about 40 minutes. IRC: #voip-users-conference and http://voipusersconference.org to talk/listen. You'll thrill to the voice of file, RusselB and myself. Except the others never talk, like Harpo. |
| 16:16.35 | fiXXXerMet | Where do you put the register => statement when setting up a sip provider? |
| 16:16.46 | FlatFoot | Harpo wasn't he the one with the horn ????? |
| 16:16.48 | Zeeek | in [general] in sip.conf |
| 16:16.53 | jameswf | I prefer http://royal.pingdom.com/?p=234 |
| 16:16.54 | fiXXXerMet | Thanks Zeeek |
| 16:16.55 | Zeeek | FlatFoot yeah |
| 16:17.08 | Zeeek | FlatFoot are you ScaredyCat by any chance? |
| 16:17.27 | FlatFoot | me yeah 6'5" wimp |
| 16:17.40 | Zeeek | no, I mean did you use that? I guess not |
| 16:17.49 | Zeeek | Haven't seen ScaredyCat in years |
| 16:17.56 | FlatFoot | nah m8 just joshing with ya |
| 16:18.16 | Zeeek | he wrote this: http://automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm |
| 16:18.30 | Zeeek | Andy Powell - wonder what happened to him? |
| 16:18.36 | FlatFoot | the comment from MadDog on that last like makes one chuckle |
| 16:18.38 | Zeeek | ~seen ScaredyCat |
| 16:18.42 | jbot | scaredycat is currently on #openmoko, last said: 'did somebody just break libgpephone_svn.bb'. |
| 16:18.52 | jameswf | tadah |
| 16:18.53 | file | Zeeek: Russell is actually off today :D |
| 16:18.53 | Zeeek | not the same one |
| 16:19.12 | Zeeek | Russell is too LAZY. WORK! |
| 16:19.31 | Zeeek | So uh, file, you'll have to speak, then... |
| 16:19.36 | Zeeek | about 1.6 :) |
| 16:19.39 | tobias | is there a quick way to print a variable in the extensions.conf file, for debugging purposes? |
| 16:19.51 | Zeeek | Noop |
| 16:20.09 | Zeeek | as in NoOp(${THEBOOK} |
| 16:20.12 | Zeeek | ) |
| 16:20.13 | Qwell | FlatFoot: that is good |
| 16:20.20 | file | Qwell should speak |
| 16:20.23 | Qwell | MadDog is an interesting fellow |
| 16:20.31 | tobias | Zeeek: cool, thanks |
| 16:20.58 | jameswf | just for fun they should asterisk should force a semicolon to the end of each command :) |
| 16:21.36 | Zeeek | ? |
| 16:21.41 | Zeeek | oops |
| 16:21.46 | jameswf | then give obscure errors when you forget one |
| 16:22.13 | Zeeek | what does the message "we should never be here" mean, by the way |
| 16:22.23 | Zeeek | it's very reassuring to see |
| 16:23.33 | Zeeek | there are no obscure errors, only obscure error messages |
| 16:24.10 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 16:24.57 | Zeeek | has anyone heard any US presidential candidate say anything interesting regarding technology? |
| 16:25.25 | *** join/#asterisk puzzled_ (n=patrick@pni-128-64-192-252.prioritynetworks.net) |
| 16:25.42 | Zeeek | Like, isn't the cabinet in need of someone who knows something about it? |
| 16:26.50 | Zeeek | "Clinton reiterated her support for net neutrality on January 9, 2007, when the Internet Freedom Preservation Act was reintroduced:" |
| 16:27.22 | umay | Zeeek: go ask on #RonPaul |
| 16:27.41 | Zeeek | hah, no, I don't think so. But has he said anyting? |
| 16:28.07 | umay | lots |
| 16:28.13 | Zeeek | It kinda looks like they are all for net neutrality |
| 16:28.30 | Zeeek | or do they say that only ON the Internet? |
| 16:28.46 | jameswf | jbot ron paul |
| 16:28.47 | jbot | i guess ron paul is my choice for president in 2008 |
| 16:28.51 | Zeeek | I'll bet at the Elk's club hall, it's like "shoot them damn hippuies" |
| 16:29.01 | umay | he wants to keep the feds out of the net |
| 16:29.09 | jameswf | ~hillary |
| 16:29.10 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, hillary is see pole hugger |
| 16:29.10 | Zeeek | Let' 'em go down the tubesz |
| 16:29.33 | Zeeek | umay so he's said clearly "no internet tax" ? |
| 16:30.05 | umay | he's said no IRS |
| 16:30.05 | jameswf | Intrnet tax? I think I will use someone elses internet |
| 16:30.06 | Zeeek | Yeah he's good, old Ron |
| 16:30.30 | Zeeek | but he has less chance than Ralph Nader -I.e., none |
| 16:31.01 | umay | came in 2nd last weekend in nevada and 2nd two days ago in louisiana |
| 16:31.02 | Zeeek | between Hillary and Obama, has onbe been more vocal on technology? |
| 16:31.21 | Zeeek | umay believe me, it ain't gonna play in Peoria |
| 16:31.27 | jameswf | does it really matter what ron paul says he is just in for a paycheck with 2% of the vote |
| 16:31.32 | Zeeek | or maybe only in Peoria |
| 16:31.32 | umay | more $$$ in the bank than anybody but romney |
| 16:31.54 | Zeeek | between Hillary and Obama, has one been more vocal on technology than the other? |
| 16:31.58 | [TK]D-Fender | cpm: no, he'd pull the US out of everywhere, the budget deficit would clear up, and the damage to the constitution being being undone. |
| 16:32.03 | Zeeek | smae question for GOP |
| 16:32.33 | cpm | [TK]D-Fender, remember, the president can't do much of anything without expressed consent of the houses, and RP wouldn't get any support, so things would deadlock |
| 16:32.50 | Zeeek | Deadlock? what's new? |
| 16:32.58 | umay | except for all the Executive Orders he could roll back |
| 16:33.25 | [TK]D-Fender | cpm: Dunno about that. Most of his stuff washes easy (most), and the stuff that is under the executive wing is the stuff most in need of change anyways. |
| 16:33.26 | Zeeek | The pols seriously need to update their firmware! |
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| 16:33.51 | ManxPower | Vote Cuthulu 2008! Why settle for the lesser of two evils! |
| 16:33.53 | Zeeek | It's great that Ron Paul gets attention |
| 16:34.02 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: FTW! |
| 16:34.07 | umay | executive branch = commander in chief, so RP could pull out troops very quickly |
| 16:34.29 | huey23 | sadly, yes he could |
| 16:34.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Obama is anti-war too and he's my lastin-in-line hope for the US. |
| 16:35.00 | umay | redeploy to protect the borders |
| 16:35.03 | [TK]D-Fender | And Kucinich dropped out :( |
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| 16:35.21 | Zeeek | I want protection for SIP. IAX is making a move to replace it |
| 16:35.32 | huey23 | there are still plenty of troops here at home to protect the borders |
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| 16:36.06 | umay | that must be why they are shutting down hospitals that provide care to illegal immigrants then |
| 16:36.12 | Zeeek | Grasshopper: the more you clench your fist, the more sand pours through it! |
| 16:36.14 | umay | because the borders are so tight |
| 16:36.24 | huey23 | i didnt say they were tight |
| 16:36.41 | huey23 | i said there were plenty of troops to protect them...they havent been put into place yet |
| 16:37.00 | umay | RP is like IAX and The Rest are like SIP, with respect to borders |
| 16:37.06 | Zeeek | Allright, now that we've stirred the pot, come on over to VoIP Users Conference and talk about technology and asterisk (tm) |
| 16:37.20 | huey23 | lol |
| 16:37.23 | Zeeek | heh |
| 16:38.03 | mort_gib | Reading http://www.digium.com/en/company/view-policy/5 -This prevents me, pretty much, from stating that "This is an Asterisk solution provided by MyCompany" in my installs! |
| 16:38.20 | umay | Asterisk-based is ok, right ? |
| 16:38.38 | Zeeek | use "*sterisk-based". |
| 16:39.05 | mort_gib | Yes, I suppose but my view was/is promoting OS |
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| 16:39.36 | Zeeek | Let me say one thing that I heard from Mark recently: Get a document from Digium, you can say anything you want after. They want you to "register" with them. |
| 16:40.06 | Zeeek | Write to Digium and you won't have a problem. |
| 16:40.07 | mort_gib | So actually INFORMING my clients that they are enjoying the great service of a great OS project is out |
| 16:40.17 | Zeeek | see above |
| 16:40.29 | mort_gib | Ok, good to know :-) I need to get the 729 licenses anyway! |
| 16:40.39 | Zeeek | and in all fairness, as trazdemark owner, they can ask people to ask them for use |
| 16:41.10 | Zeeek | They're not the devil, Digium are cool people and a great company. They just make a mistake once in a while |
| 16:41.25 | Zeeek | and the (tm) thing was done in a kind of maladroit way |
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| 16:41.34 | Zeeek | they've tried to clarify |
| 16:41.35 | huey23 | are there alternatives to sendmail when using * to send e-mail and txt msg's for voicemail? |
| 16:41.42 | mort_gib | Of course they can, I think that the issue here is if I would use Digium/Asterisk to promote my solutions, which I wont |
| 16:41.50 | umay | postfix |
| 16:41.54 | Qwell | huey23: "sendmail" is a pretty generic term. |
| 16:42.06 | huey23 | ok, i thought it was a program |
| 16:42.07 | huey23 | ? |
| 16:42.08 | Qwell | just about every MTA that runs on UNIX has a sendmail command |
| 16:42.13 | jameswf | I hear a janitor rant coming :) |
| 16:42.23 | Qwell | it is, but it's often not used to describe that |
| 16:42.58 | huey23 | ok, are there alternatives for the tasks i want to accomplish? |
| 16:42.58 | Qwell | jameswf: see msg |
| 16:43.09 | Qwell | huey23: many. you just need an MTA |
| 16:43.29 | huey23 | MTA, ok, i'll use that to look around...thanks |
| 16:43.59 | Qwell | MTA=mail transport agent |
| 16:44.08 | huey23 | thanks qwell |
| 16:44.34 | Zeeek | One last chance: http://VoIPUsersConference.org in 10 minutes. See y'all |
| 16:44.48 | Qwell | Zeeek: is unixdog the guest speaker? |
| 16:46.43 | kyron | oh god....da muzak! |
| 16:46.59 | [koss] | how are the astra 53/55i phones? decent? |
| 16:50.21 | jameswf | If I dont join am I thrown out of the VOIP users guild.... |
| 16:50.32 | jameswf | will have to play d&D |
| 16:50.35 | Qwell | jameswf: no, you become a lifetime member. |
| 16:50.47 | mocker | Just pictures of data centers, I swear. |
| 16:51.17 | jameswf | We were thinking about a product calinder with bikinis.... lol |
| 16:51.36 | jameswf | most linux girls arent that hot.... |
| 16:51.59 | huey23 | [koss]: i set up a 480iCT, the setup is simple, multiple lines, the cordless works great, the base for the cordless is cheap, cheap plastic, cheap circuit boards...i dont know about the 53/55i phone though |
| 16:52.04 | [TK]D-Fender | [koss]: they're "ok", but in North America I wouldn.... |
| 16:53.12 | jameswf | linux girls :) >>http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/485967082.html |
| 16:53.26 | huey23 | [TK]D-Fender: what's happenin'? |
| 16:54.51 | *** part/#asterisk Zeeek (n=IceChat7@pdpc/supporter/active/Zeeek) |
| 16:56.20 | [TK]D-Fender | huey23: Getting by... |
| 16:56.33 | huey23 | [TK]D-Fender: story of my life |
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| 16:57.17 | kyron | jameswf, BWAHAHAHAH |
| 16:58.29 | kyron | jameswf, I wouldn't go that far: `We will even go to Disney World and see Mickey Mouse.` ;) |
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| 17:03.41 | kyron | UnixDog, so how'd the Grandstream meating go? They gonna change their name? |
| 17:03.57 | teknoprep | lol |
| 17:04.02 | teknoprep | when a product sucks |
| 17:04.06 | teknoprep | change its name |
| 17:05.22 | kyron | teknoprep, yeah, UnixDog barged in wanting to know what to throw at Grandstream before a meeting with their engs. |
| 17:05.36 | teknoprep | lol |
| 17:05.44 | kyron | It was suggested they change name if ever they got a half decent phone going |
| 17:05.54 | kyron | Openoffice |
| 17:06.02 | teknoprep | i heard the gxp2020 was at least a decent phone |
| 17:06.14 | zeeesh | <Zeeek> sorry |
| 17:06.18 | kyron | define decent ;) |
| 17:06.22 | teknoprep | works |
| 17:06.24 | teknoprep | lol |
| 17:06.33 | teknoprep | has nice looks and works without too many problems |
| 17:06.47 | teknoprep | too many problems being the idea of a phone worth 149$ |
| 17:07.04 | kyron | well...the present http://voipusersconference.org/ livecast wo-rRR-wo-woRRks ;) |
| 17:07.49 | kyron | O_o...but I just bought a poly 320...which sells for ~82$ U$ (114$CA here)... |
| 17:08.45 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep: You mean like Diebold is about to do? ;) |
| 17:09.07 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, who or what is Diebold ? |
| 17:09.41 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep: What rock have you been living under? They're a voting machine maker... |
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| 17:10.03 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep: You know... the one that saw Dubbya into office twice :) |
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| 17:10.43 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i have stopped watching the news man... its all bullshit anyway |
| 17:10.48 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i don't care much anymore |
| 17:11.50 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep: Complacency... the final nail in the coffin of "greater purpose" |
| 17:12.18 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i should restate... i don't care what the media tells me. |
| 17:12.28 | Navion | Anyone figure out how to get the time to display right on GXP2000's? |
| 17:12.31 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, i do care about ALOT ... i just find the mainstream media is bullshit |
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| 17:12.54 | teknoprep | Navion, probably setting up correct dhcp options for time office and time server |
| 17:12.58 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep: It is, but these are simply facts, not "media twistings" |
| 17:13.09 | kyron | Navion, from what I read here, you should have bought a watch |
| 17:13.11 | teknoprep | Navion, time offset not time office |
| 17:13.54 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, the idea of the freedom of the press... is so they can possibly find out the truth before it becomes common knowlege... the media and press have failed us all... |
| 17:13.56 | Navion | Everything else in the office is working fine. It's just the darn Grandstream phones display the wrong time. |
| 17:15.07 | [TK]D-Fender | teknoprep: Agreed |
| 17:15.16 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, #1 prime example... the war on iraq... if you were to look at the coverage on the vietnam war vs this war... it realy puts our press to shame |
| 17:15.24 | teknoprep | [TK]D-Fender, dan rather was the shit back in the day |
| 17:15.45 | J4k3 | heh |
| 17:15.54 | mocker | iraq needs more bloggers. |
| 17:15.57 | mocker | er.. |
| 17:16.02 | J4k3 | the war in iraq's press coverage is printed daily by the US military |
| 17:16.13 | teknoprep | BBC news FTW |
| 17:16.20 | J4k3 | the press branch generates the stories, your local 'news entertainment' source plays them |
| 17:16.20 | huey23 | teknoprep: does anyone know why the war in Iraq isn't getting much coverage anymore? |
| 17:16.32 | J4k3 | BBC is too busy trying to make the UK look good. |
| 17:16.33 | teknoprep | huey23, the big Bush doesn't want it |
| 17:16.40 | huey23 | wrong |
| 17:17.06 | huey23 | because the coalition is succeeding |
| 17:17.13 | J4k3 | haha right |
| 17:17.19 | J4k3 | succeeding at what |
| 17:17.28 | J4k3 | killing off a significant percentage of the remaining population? |
| 17:17.39 | huey23 | the war effort is winning, the diplomatic effort is failing |
| 17:17.43 | teknoprep | huey23, at war profiteering |
| 17:17.47 | zeeesh | <[TK]D-Fender>: u were telling to "set up a zaptel timing source" .. this is same machine where i was doing call conferencing before a week ... there is just one changed .. i think i just change asterisk version .. can it be the cause or something other issue ? |
| 17:17.47 | kyron | Best coverage I got was from dearching "Dead terrorist" on youtube |
| 17:18.02 | teknoprep | kyron, lol |
| 17:18.09 | [TK]D-Fender | zeeesh: changing * version may devalidate your ZAPTEL version. |
| 17:18.16 | kyron | ;) |
| 17:18.26 | J4k3 | huey23: its easy to kill people ('war effort'), its still a bitch to get the living people to get along... no shit. |
| 17:18.35 | huey23 | that's true |
| 17:18.43 | J4k3 | saddam had a better understanding of that than anyone in the USA ever did... |
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| 17:18.49 | huey23 | wrong |
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| 17:18.51 | teknoprep | i hate this country |
| 17:19.04 | J4k3 | and how is it any different that saddam biochem'd a bunch of northern iraq kurds, and now we're killing them in quantity, and letting turkey do the rest? |
| 17:19.11 | teknoprep | i have been all over the world when i was in the Navy |
| 17:19.18 | kyron | but noooooooo...don't show sex on the 5oclck news! |
| 17:19.20 | teknoprep | this is the worst country in the world for how good we have it |
| 17:19.25 | huey23 | this may turn most of you off but...i am an iraq war veteran and i would like to think that i did something good |
| 17:19.38 | J4k3 | you can't stay the word beaver in a superbowl-time TV commercial on FOX |
| 17:19.54 | HeXeD | http://thevoipforum.org/forum_index |
| 17:19.58 | teknoprep | huey23, skrew you and your feelings... i was at the affrican embassy bombing in 98 |
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| 17:20.06 | J4k3 | huey23: sucks to be involved in something that was entirely stupid from the start? |
| 17:20.08 | tobias | Set(CALLERID(name)=${IF($[ ${message} = ""]?${CALLERID(name)}:${message})}) |
| 17:20.15 | tobias | is there anything obvious wrong with that? |
| 17:20.16 | J4k3 | huey23: AWOL is always an answer. |
| 17:20.17 | teknoprep | huey23, after that i asked for a desk job.. i didn't want to do that anymore man |
| 17:20.33 | kyron | teknoprep, when you say "the worst country" which one do you refer to? can be interpreted |
| 17:20.41 | teknoprep | kyron, USA man.. it blows |
| 17:20.47 | huey23 | teknoprep: in the navy? you were at an embassy? what exactly did you accomplish? |
| 17:20.56 | teknoprep | huey23, i was EOD |
| 17:20.57 | kyron | teknoprep, thought so ;) |
| 17:21.05 | huey23 | so you didn't do your job? |
| 17:21.07 | J4k3 | huey23: did you kill people for your country? |
| 17:21.08 | kyron | En Of DAy? |
| 17:21.16 | J4k3 | huey23: if so... sucks to be you. |
| 17:21.18 | huey23 | J4k3: no |
| 17:21.25 | teknoprep | Explosive ordanance disposal |
| 17:21.29 | huey23 | J4k3: i did stay alive though |
| 17:21.31 | deeperror | how would i capture the output from ztmonitor without it refreshing just 1 command get output then parse that output? |
| 17:21.45 | teknoprep | i worked with the SeaBee's , seals, and marines |
| 17:21.58 | huey23 | i know what EOD is...and the bombing happened...so, did you accomplish what you were supposed to? |
| 17:22.03 | J4k3 | huey23: well, iraq is not significantly more dangerous than walking around with a shirt covered with radially derogatory statements and walking down streets in washington, dc. |
| 17:22.04 | teknoprep | making places safe for reco work and rebuilding |
| 17:22.06 | J4k3 | ;) |
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| 17:22.22 | teknoprep | huey23, i wasn't at the embassy before the bombing lol |
| 17:22.27 | kyron | ahhhh teknoprep kinda what my bro is doing at the moment part time for the army (waiting for them to assign him a Cesna probably equipped with an AK47, Canadian airforce) |
| 17:22.27 | huey23 | J4k3: i asure you, it is |
| 17:22.37 | huey23 | teknoprep: :P |
| 17:22.47 | J4k3 | huey23: I dunno, I've been cought in one hell of a firefight in houston before. |
| 17:22.55 | huey23 | lol... |
| 17:23.03 | teknoprep | huey23, killing ppl is never glorious |
| 17:23.11 | J4k3 | huey23: and being your average white kid, I had no cover from either side. |
| 17:23.11 | huey23 | i know |
| 17:23.18 | teknoprep | huey23, and i hate the idea of how gung ho i was for it. |
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| 17:23.36 | teknoprep | huey23, they brainwash ppl quite wel and have been doing it for years |
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| 17:23.41 | teknoprep | huey23, the military that is |
| 17:23.49 | J4k3 | the USA kills more civilians before 8am than any other country kills all day! |
| 17:23.55 | huey23 | teknoprep: no one made you do it and to say so is weak |
| 17:24.18 | teknoprep | huey23, they drop you into a war zone |
| 17:24.25 | huey23 | they did |
| 17:24.25 | teknoprep | huey23, you have no choice but live or die |
| 17:24.29 | huey23 | exactly |
| 17:24.43 | J4k3 | heres some meth and a shitty lowest-bidder rifle and ammo... have a nice day! |
| 17:24.51 | huey23 | and you signed the dotted line before that...knowing damn well what the military does |
| 17:24.52 | J4k3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.59 | teknoprep | huey23, fucks you up afterwards man.. i am 100% anti-war all the time no matter what |
| 17:25.13 | teknoprep | huey23, unless the fuckers were here in the US... skrew em and leave em alone |
| 17:25.19 | huey23 | and that's your right...just try not to change my mind |
| 17:25.29 | Qwell | </politics in #asterisk> |
| 17:25.39 | huey23 | Qwell: lol...sorry |
| 17:25.42 | FlatFoot | Edwin Starr had some good thoughts on war |
| 17:26.21 | tobias | are the docs at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+func+if wrong? On our system true and false are reversed. |
| 17:26.42 | J4k3 | I say if you signed the bottom line to take over countries and kill people |
| 17:26.43 | [TK]D-Fender | J4k3: And the US incarcerates about as manay as the rest of the world combined... |
| 17:26.58 | Qwell | tobias: no, show us the line you're using |
| 17:27.00 | [TK]D-Fender | long live the land of the "Free" (tm)! |
| 17:27.05 | J4k3 | [TK]D-Fender: the USA is one big illegal tease. |
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| 17:27.48 | tobias | Qwell: Set(CALLERID(name)=${IF($[ ${message} = ""]?${CALLERID(name)}:${message})}) |
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| 17:27.50 | J4k3 | "hi lets sell cars that do 160 mph and set the speed limit to 70 mph" "hi lets make plants that grow openly illegal" "hi lets make sure people get sick from eating genetically altered food then lets charge them a fuckload to get medical help" |
| 17:28.22 | Qwell | why would you set callerid name to callerid name? |
| 17:28.26 | huey23 | J4k3: you sound like a big spoiled baby |
| 17:28.33 | Qwell | use execif instead |
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| 17:28.43 | [TK]D-Fender | J4k3: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=rHXXTCc-IVg |
| 17:28.44 | tobias | Qwell: ok |
| 17:28.51 | J4k3 | huey23: you sound like a moron, but I didn't want to call it out. |
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| 17:29.12 | huey23 | i'd rather be a moron than a crybaby |
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| 17:29.28 | [TK]D-Fender | tobias: $[ ${message} = ""] <-- BAD. You are comparing the contents of a string to 2 QUOTE CHARS |
| 17:29.43 | J4k3 | huey23: and you were dumb enough to sign up for us military service... a cheap fool. |
| 17:29.55 | [TK]D-Fender | tobias: $["${message}"=""] <-- Proper |
| 17:30.00 | huey23 | nope...just an ambitious kid |
| 17:30.02 | FlatFoot | Moron (psychology), a psychology-related term for a person with a mental age between 8 and 12 |
| 17:30.13 | FlatFoot | good age to be , mind can absorb |
| 17:30.13 | J4k3 | ambition is getting a job and going to college |
| 17:30.15 | tobias | [TK]D-Fender: ahhh... that would be a problem. thanks. |
| 17:30.27 | J4k3 | not waving a gun around like a 2 bit compton gangbanger with a better uniform. |
| 17:30.33 | huey23 | i'm working on it...but there are other opportunbities out there |
| 17:30.40 | tobias | [TK]D-Fender: can we use the ! operator instead? |
| 17:30.48 | huey23 | i'd like to think my uniform was sexy :P |
| 17:31.05 | [TK]D-Fender | tobias: its not the operator, its your completely broken comparison. |
| 17:31.13 | shazaum | hi all Srs. |
| 17:31.15 | tobias | [TK]D-Fender: e.g., IF[ !${message}] |
| 17:31.21 | shazaum | asterisk should turn in window |
| 17:31.31 | [TK]D-Fender | tobias: the variable does not contain uote chars. |
| 17:31.34 | cpm | Nooooooo! |
| 17:31.48 | tobias | [TK]D-Fender: i realize the problem, I'm just asking if there's a prettier solution :) |
| 17:31.58 | [TK]D-Fender | tobias: Just do it the normally suggested way... |
| 17:32.04 | shazaum | it would be graced |
| 17:32.25 | FlatFoot | night all , good ranting to everyone and an enjoyable weekend to all |
| 17:32.35 | cappiz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.36 | shazaum | ooohhh nooooooooo |
| 17:32.42 | shazaum | blue screeen |
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| 17:34.09 | shazaum | cpm: do u no like windows? |
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| 17:34.24 | cpm | shazaum, I'm agnostic |
| 17:35.00 | the-moog | Hi asteriskers |
| 17:35.28 | plik | hi vintage synth dude |
| 17:36.02 | the-moog | I'm just starting to play with it and have tried AsteriskWin32 - My log is full of ast_rtp_read: RTP Read error: Connection reset by peer |
| 17:36.11 | the-moog | Why? |
| 17:36.54 | plik | newbie myself |
| 17:37.19 | the-moog | plik - noting to do with synths (though you are showing your age) it was my nick at school |
| 17:37.34 | [TK]D-Fender | the-moog: Run. Run fast, and maybe you'll escape.... |
| 17:37.38 | plik | oh ok :) |
| 17:37.55 | outtolunc | http://www.asteriskwin32.com/forum/ |
| 17:38.27 | J4k3 | haha asterisk on win32... considering win32 can't even run a softphne without chunking data on occasion.... |
| 17:38.48 | J4k3 | I can't imagine being a big enough idiot to want to actually use it as the server side. |
| 17:38.51 | tobias | Qwell: can I use ExecIf on a cmd instead of an app? |
| 17:39.08 | the-moog | I guessted it was somthing to do with the port to win, but was trying to avoid having yet another machine to look after...... |
| 17:39.13 | ManxPower | Running Asterisk on Win32 is like making a hybrid car using an old Model T chassis. |
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| 17:39.25 | ManxPower | Sure, it would be cool, but it would not work very well. |
| 17:39.33 | J4k3 | the-moog: pay for a hosted solution? ;) |
| 17:39.39 | J4k3 | the-moog: even less hassle for you entirely! |
| 17:40.14 | J4k3 | ManxPower: I dunno, a well tuned model t gets about the same FE as a modern hybrid ;) |
| 17:40.21 | J4k3 | of course, at about 1/3rd the top speed |
| 17:40.45 | chronos | Porks: ... |
| 17:40.52 | the-moog | Pay: not really sensible we have two phone lines in the house and want to be able to transfer between them. I was looking into Asterisk as being somthing i can run on one of my servers (yes windows ones) that would solve the problem |
| 17:41.00 | ManxPower | fine! Running Asterisk on Win32 is like making a hybrid car using a tricycle chassis. |
| 17:41.01 | ManxPower | better? |
| 17:41.03 | ManxPower | 8-) |
| 17:41.06 | Porks | chronos, hi! |
| 17:41.16 | shazaum | hohoho |
| 17:41.23 | shazaum | i see a porks |
| 17:41.32 | Porks | Oinc |
| 17:41.47 | J4k3 | ManxPower: haha... what the world needs is a return of the isetta |
| 17:41.48 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 17:41.57 | b1ch0 | hi everybody, i want to use spanish voices instead of english ones on all * voicessages ... does anybody could help ? |
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| 17:42.10 | shazaum | hahaha |
| 17:42.23 | J4k3 | http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/strange_vehicles/isetta_microcar.html = aller-friendly |
| 17:42.27 | J4k3 | the-moog: you don't have servers |
| 17:42.34 | J4k3 | servers don't run windows |
| 17:43.01 | J4k3 | you've got workstations without chairs, maybe. |
| 17:43.03 | chronos | oho ... romiseta here :) |
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| 17:45.49 | tobias | [TK]D-Fender: thanks, works great now |
| 17:45.50 | J4k3 | I had a piece of shit machine (pcchips mobo, k6-2-366/66 processor, EDO ram, audiopci, win2000) get almost 2 years uptime before I pulled the plug on it |
| 17:46.29 | J4k3 | of course, all it did was windows media live encoding... the CPU sat at 80% for nearly 2 years straight |
| 17:46.43 | J4k3 | the uptime counter in the streaming software quit around 540 days |
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| 17:47.21 | the-moog | And if its that stable what is wrong with it? |
| 17:47.52 | J4k3 | well, the *server* part of it froze up/stopped working about once very couple weeks. |
| 17:48.02 | J4k3 | sometimes once a day, depending on usage levels. |
| 17:48.04 | the-moog | PC chips = crap |
| 17:48.28 | J4k3 | the *server* was running on a nice dell poweredge that ended up running FreeBSD quite stable after I got rid of the streaming shit. |
| 17:48.47 | J4k3 | unluckily this was all before shoutcast and the like were popular and mainstream |
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| 18:00.35 | Stefan1979 | Hello ppl.. I have a problem with the voice quality on my PRI... I've checked framing, timingsource, irq interrrupts.. :-( Anybody have an idea where to look? |
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| 18:02.55 | moellerdk | Hi all... Is anybody able to help on a sound quality issue on a PRI connection? |
| 18:03.23 | umay | choppy ? |
| 18:03.30 | umay | echo ? |
| 18:03.39 | Stefan1979 | umay: choppy |
| 18:04.09 | umay | what kind of phones ? |
| 18:04.28 | moellerdk | umay: it's a cracking sound on the calling line - only heard on the pstn end. |
| 18:04.39 | fiXXXerMet | Wow, SIP is sounding much better than IAX. |
| 18:05.15 | moellerdk | umay: i'm calling in from a normal fixed line to my PRI span and hearing cracking noise - where as the SIP end hears no noise. |
| 18:06.13 | umay | how about just calling to the * box, say, hitting Playback app |
| 18:07.02 | moellerdk | umay: same problem. |
| 18:08.22 | *** part/#asterisk morex (n=m@91.84.56.12) |
| 18:08.28 | moellerdk | umay: I've followed instructions on setting up zaptel.conf and configuring my span as "span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4" as per instructions on how the ISDN line works here i Denmark. |
| 18:09.32 | moellerdk | umay: Oh... and I've of course called in from several different phones - including cell phone - same cracking noise no matter where I call from. |
| 18:09.47 | moellerdk | umay: zttool shows no lost IRQs |
| 18:11.50 | carrar | try a new phone cord? |
| 18:12.02 | jameswf | moellerdk: what does cat /proc/intrrupts show |
| 18:12.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 18:12.09 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 18:12.10 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 18:12.32 | carrar | Howdee tk |
| 18:12.43 | J4k3 | moellerdk: cracking on my old CT1s was always related to timing issues |
| 18:13.11 | moellerdk | jameswf: http://pastebin.com/d39130262 |
| 18:13.12 | umay | try zttest |
| 18:13.13 | J4k3 | moellerdk: since the telco switched to GPS-based timing for their circuits, cracking on voice calls, at least once per minute, is a way of life. |
| 18:14.00 | J4k3 | (I'd love to stab whoever gave them the idea to switch to GPS-based timing...) |
| 18:14.02 | moellerdk | J4k3: Hmm.... I was actually thinking about that. But isn't it possible to set the correct timing in zapata.conf if one can get it from the telco? |
| 18:14.30 | jameswf | moellerdk: what distro are you using |
| 18:14.32 | J4k3 | moellerdk: the telco should be sending you the timing |
| 18:14.44 | J4k3 | your equipment should be set to be a timing slave |
| 18:14.58 | [TK]D-Fender | moellerdk: 20: 1179245 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb2, t1xxp <--- BAD |
| 18:15.07 | [TK]D-Fender | moellerdk: What version of * / Zaptel? |
| 18:15.29 | moellerdk | jameswf: I've compiled 1.4.17 on a ubuntu server. |
| 18:15.53 | jameswf | moellerdk: you may wanna go in to bios and kill everything you dont need, serial ports usb parallel etc |
| 18:16.01 | [TK]D-Fender | moellerdk: Ok, well your card is sharing an IRQ with USB. That is very bad. Also please pastebin "dmesg" |
| 18:16.20 | jjshoe | yeah, digium cards hate to share irq's |
| 18:16.46 | jameswf | moellerdk: you dont have X running on that right? |
| 18:16.50 | J4k3 | telephony vs pci... steel cage deathmatch |
| 18:16.51 | moellerdk | J4k3: It is set to slave - I was thinking of the N200,T200,T305 etc.. etc... timings one can manually change. |
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| 18:17.02 | jameswf | all zaptel hardware hate shared irqs |
| 18:17.17 | umay | those timings are not the problem |
| 18:17.20 | moellerdk | [TK]D-Fender: What exactly is bad? :-) |
| 18:17.22 | Navion | J4k3 I don't think GPS timing is the problem. There is plenty of buffer to handle any small changes and the long term stability can't be beat. Much better than the other stratum-1 time sources. |
| 18:17.24 | Stefan1979 | [TK]D-Fender: dmesg output http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
| 18:17.25 | Corydon76-dig | It isn't so much that they 'hate' shared irqs, it's that there's a potential for missed interrupts |
| 18:17.50 | J4k3 | Navion: yeah, until theres a national emergency and the GPS network gets adjusted radically or shut down |
| 18:17.59 | Corydon76-dig | As long as there's no missed interrupts, sharing IRQs with Digium cards is fine |
| 18:18.06 | moellerdk | [TK]D-Fender: zaptel 1.4.5 - it is the only one PhonicEQ delivers. |
| 18:18.10 | J4k3 | Navion: DHS already said GPS gets turned off immediately if they suspect the GPS network is being used for 'terrorist activities' |
| 18:18.16 | jameswf | libata can also sometimes be a jerk and hold up the processor queue but shouldnt be a huge issue in newer kernels |
| 18:18.39 | J4k3 | of course, this is why I own a small stack of CBs and antennas |
| 18:18.45 | Corydon76-dig | J4k3: they proposed it, and it was immediately rejected |
| 18:18.46 | J4k3 | GPS sync my 27 mhz. |
| 18:19.01 | Navion | J4k3 There hasn't been any SA for 8 years and the new GPS satellites that are on order have SA taken out of the spec. |
| 18:19.04 | mamep | anyone tested planet ip phones? |
| 18:19.17 | ZPertee | I use a Linksys SPA8000 ata with my asterisk box. I am trying to set the mwi dial tone on this device. The current value is 400@-19,425@-19,450@19;2(.1/.1/1+2);10(*/0/1+2). I understand this isn't a Linksys ATA forum but wasn't sure if anyone could help me as I can't seem to find anything on google or from anywher else. |
| 18:19.26 | J4k3 | Navion: the satellites can still be disabled. |
| 18:19.29 | J4k3 | remotely |
| 18:19.32 | Corydon76-dig | There are too many mission critical services, such as civilian provisioning of the military, which would be affected by turning off GPS |
| 18:19.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ZPertee: You do noth have to do anything on the SPA for stutter-MWI |
| 18:20.01 | J4k3 | the military has secondary methods |
| 18:20.04 | J4k3 | I mean shit, LORAN still works :P |
| 18:20.10 | jameswf | this is why gps is usualy off a click or two to keep you guessing |
| 18:20.17 | moellerdk | So I'm sharing an interrupt with a USB controller. But I'm not missing any interrupts - and we're talking a Dual Core machine with 1 concurrent call and a lot of cracking sound. Can it really be the shared interrupt? |
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| 18:21.54 | J4k3 | heck, these days, it'd be easy enough to make a multi-radio ADF that would be damn near as accurate as a GPS, assuming you knew all the AM transmitter sites/beacon sites nearby. |
| 18:21.59 | jjshoe | moellerdk yes. |
| 18:22.00 | Navion | Now that the FAA has started replaceing IFR approaches at some airports with GPS approaches I doubt that they will be turning it off. |
| 18:22.05 | tzanger | damn, I need alison's sweet voice saying 'new' where it's not bleeding immediately into the next word |
| 18:22.06 | jjshoe | moellerdk turn usb off in your bios and give it a go. |
| 18:22.16 | tzanger | so far all of the files tested have new bleeding into the new word |
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| 18:22.37 | moellerdk | jjshoe: will do right away! |
| 18:22.48 | Navion | But that doesn't address why you're hearing clicks. Could be NSA taping your phone... |
| 18:22.51 | jameswf | google mobile maps does the cell tower triangulation and its pretty close in the city |
| 18:23.10 | J4k3 | Navion: well considering ILS would regularly screw up just from having a large plane sitting near the runway... |
| 18:23.14 | jameswf | moellerdk: are you planning terrorist activities |
| 18:23.19 | J4k3 | you can't get much worse |
| 18:23.25 | J4k3 | but hell, isn't ILS late 40s technology? |
| 18:24.05 | jameswf | 40 is the new 20 |
| 18:24.23 | jameswf | I cant retire untill im like 102 |
| 18:24.34 | J4k3 | haha |
| 18:24.40 | J4k3 | screw retiring |
| 18:24.44 | J4k3 | I hope I can work til the day I die |
| 18:24.52 | J4k3 | with some vacations in between |
| 18:24.54 | carrar | s/work/play/ |
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| 18:25.06 | Stefan1979 | J4k3: Tests of the ILS system began in 1929, and the Civil Aeronautics Administration (CAA) authorized installation of the system in 1941 |
| 18:25.22 | J4k3 | Stefan1979: WOW, now thats OOOOLD. |
| 18:25.23 | jameswf | J4k3: that is how it is suppose to be... Every time I see a snowbird I wanna make em go pick lettuce lazy bastards |
| 18:26.12 | Navion | Multi radio ADf isn't accuarate unless all the transmitters are frequency stable. Guess what radio stations are using for frequency sources? Oscillators disciplined to GPS same as the phone company Stratum 1 clocks. |
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| 18:26.59 | jameswf | when social SSI was created the retirement age was 55 but the life span was 53. so now that life span is like 73 ssi needs to go to like 80. Its insurance retirement is a luxery not a right |
| 18:27.07 | J4k3 | Navion: the local 2.5kW AM station is pretty reliable, and it uses a crystal. |
| 18:28.03 | jameswf | Napolean dynamites time machine also used crystals |
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| 18:28.12 | jameswf | :) |
| 18:28.30 | J4k3 | jameswf: my better CBs use crystals |
| 18:28.34 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender :just compiled everything ..getting the same result. btw.i have a self-compiled kernel 2.6.23 |
| 18:28.38 | J4k3 | the cheap ones use PLLs |
| 18:28.58 | J4k3 | of course, they're extremely unstable and waste 4/5ths of their txpower generating carrier for the recievers to lock onto. |
| 18:29.03 | J4k3 | (except for the ssb rig) |
| 18:29.31 | kyron | which is quite cool |
| 18:29.51 | jameswf | I was thinking about doing the ham radio thing but those little pigs are fast.... besides bacon is where its at |
| 18:29.57 | rafiks | will a wrong kernel time source effect the sound coming out of my asterisk box |
| 18:30.05 | Navion | It's pretty stable. +/- 200 hz (~.02%). If GPS was that instable you wouldn't be able to tell what state you were in. |
| 18:30.14 | kyron | and you can make _neat_ effects with it (which seem to be quite popular in Battle Star Galactica) :P |
| 18:31.31 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender : will a misconfigured effect my asterisk? |
| 18:32.40 | kyron | rafiks, I only see CONFIG_HZ having an impact... |
| 18:32.53 | kyron | that and about 100 other configs...but not as much as CONFIG_HZ |
| 18:33.41 | moellerdk | jameswf: hmm.... terrorist activities. Not really. Still cracking sound by the way... and by now the card has its own interrupt. |
| 18:34.26 | J4k3 | Navion: from what I'm gathering the telcos are just using the 1 second heartbeat side. |
| 18:34.38 | rafiks | kyron : i got weird sounds coming out of my asterisk.. i have this test dialplan where it will playback the monkey sound |
| 18:35.28 | jameswf | Playback(you-seem-impatient) |
| 18:35.34 | kyron | rafiks, define `weird sounds` |
| 18:35.40 | rafiks | well the monkey sounds very choppy |
| 18:36.01 | jameswf | the monkeys get stoned from time to time |
| 18:36.12 | jameswf | and start chucking poo |
| 18:36.18 | kyron | rafiks, note, I am OS level knowledgable, not * (yet, give me a few years ;P ) |
| 18:36.24 | kyron | LOL |
| 18:36.51 | kyron | rafiks, what does your setup look like (hardware) |
| 18:37.16 | rafiks | kyron : btw my HZ is set to 250 |
| 18:37.41 | rafiks | kyron : i have adebian box and linkys pap2t |
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| 18:37.45 | kyron | rafiks, set it to 1000 |
| 18:38.04 | kyron | is the linksys an add-in card? |
| 18:38.12 | rafiks | an ATA |
| 18:38.34 | kyron | rafiks, cat /proc/interrupts | wgetpaste |
| 18:38.38 | rafiks | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.48 | kyron | and if you don't have wgetpaste, pastebin the results |
| 18:40.32 | rafiks | http://pastebin.com/md0f0ddf |
| 18:40.48 | kyron | rafiks, I gather twinkle on a different machine...right... as in, your * is a dedicated box... |
| 18:41.39 | rafiks | kyron : yup |
| 18:42.01 | kyron | rafiks, if it's not installed, install the `dstat` command and run it from a console as you are attempting to play the sound |
| 18:42.30 | kyron | rafiks, also, can I ASSume you haven't plugged in anything in the USB3 port (if not, pleas check that out) |
| 18:43.54 | mamep | anyone tried Planet VIP-153T ? |
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| 18:44.14 | rafiks | kyron : nope |
| 18:44.29 | rafiks | kyron :running dstat now |
| 18:44.52 | kyron | now perform a call and check the int/csw columns (defaults to the last 2 columns) |
| 18:45.28 | [TK]D-Fender | mamep: http://www.voip4sales.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1&products_id=81&osCsid=f48a5a688a302c803c4941ad72ca1e03 |
| 18:45.35 | [TK]D-Fender | mamep: $700 a bargain! |
| 18:45.49 | J4k3 | heh, damn |
| 18:45.50 | [TK]D-Fender | mamep: Looks like cheap crap. Why are you considering it? |
| 18:46.05 | J4k3 | does it say GRANDSTREAM on it? |
| 18:46.06 | J4k3 | hah |
| 18:46.06 | kyron | rafiks, well..actually, before we go any further, please recompile the kernel with CONFIG_HZ to 1kHz ;) |
| 18:46.28 | rafiks | kyron : got 318 something and 199 |
| 18:46.50 | rafiks | kyron: will do |
| 18:46.57 | J4k3 | $700 for a phone? I hope those aren't US dollars. |
| 18:47.11 | kyron | O_o... 700roubles? |
| 18:47.21 | J4k3 | pesos! |
| 18:47.50 | kyron | Sorry to say this but Polynom phones look like _crap_ and are way to wide imho (the 501ish series) |
| 18:48.10 | kyron | but, they aparantly kick ass and aren't 700 (whatevers) :P |
| 18:48.16 | J4k3 | ip phones should just be cradles for your PDA. |
| 18:48.20 | mamep | [TK]D-Fender : i've sold my spa941 and found a planet for 45 euro |
| 18:48.25 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron: They grow on you and you could always go for the physically smaller models. |
| 18:48.56 | kyron | hence me buyin the 320 yesterday, I went for voipgizmo since it was less expensive for a single phone |
| 18:49.26 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron: IP320/330 ought to do. IP 501 is very hard to suggest |
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| 18:49.54 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, why so...I was very tempted by it, except for it's fattyness |
| 18:50.26 | kyron | rafiks, taking you a while ;) |
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| 18:54.03 | Navion | J4k3 The telcos are using the edges of the 1 second square wave. The edge position is very repeatable and the jitter is very low. Then they use that to discipline a oscillator (like a crystal in an oven) either with a digital add/drop or analog (old school probably not used anymore) phase lock. |
| 18:55.21 | Stefan1979 | Anyone tried the Phonieq t1/e1 card? |
| 18:55.33 | J4k3 | yeah... but see, the timing signals still have to be sent over the fiber/circuits |
| 18:55.44 | J4k3 | anyways... so why not just track that? |
| 18:56.01 | jameswf | is that french? |
| 18:57.04 | Qwell | Stefan1979: isn't that the cheap clone? |
| 18:57.07 | jameswf | google Phonieq t1/e1 returns nothing |
| 18:57.15 | Qwell | phoniceq or something silly |
| 18:57.38 | Stefan1979 | Qwell: Yep.. |
| 18:57.43 | Qwell | ~cheap |
| 18:57.44 | jbot | hmm... cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
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| 18:57.52 | jameswf | looks like a word play on fony |
| 18:58.00 | jameswf | heck cant spell |
| 18:58.31 | Stefan1979 | Damn.. Digium's card are expensive.. ;) |
| 18:58.35 | Navion | The timing recovery circuits in the carrier systems introduce jitter. If you string them together you can get big timing excursions at the end. Some carrier terminals do use derived timing from an upstream Stratum 1 (or 2) timed terminal but they usually can't do better than stratum 3. |
| 18:58.51 | Qwell | Stefan1979: price similar hardware for an Avaya or Nortel system |
| 18:58.54 | Qwell | you'll cry |
| 18:59.04 | J4k3 | Navion: well, I consider my local ILEC an glorified end user of telco services... they have one fiber running one direction. |
| 18:59.07 | J4k3 | one cut = we're all down |
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| 18:59.17 | Stefan1979 | Qwell: I know.. one of my friends are selling nortel ip pbx... |
| 18:59.20 | FabiOne | hi all |
| 18:59.24 | Navion | Sangoma cards are a little less expensive and very good. |
| 18:59.43 | jameswf | wow phoniceq sells their products obo (or best offer) |
| 18:59.43 | Corydon76-dig | Navion: no, they aren't |
| 18:59.48 | Qwell | Navion: they really aren't any less expensive |
| 18:59.58 | Corydon76-dig | Sangoma priced their cards at exactly the same as Digium |
| 19:00.43 | jameswf | is this time to start plugging :) |
| 19:00.46 | Stefan1979 | But i can't seem the figure out my cracking sound problem on my pri interface (PhonicEQ).. We've changed irq (no conflicts).. Checked timing and framing.. |
| 19:00.53 | Qwell | GEE |
| 19:00.55 | Qwell | I wonder why |
| 19:00.57 | kyron | In any case, it would be ill-advised to go cheap on such hardware, unless you're talking 1 or 2 lines, than play along ;) |
| 19:01.02 | Navion | I've been able to get some deals on Sangoma cards but I suppose the same sort of deals are around for Digium too. |
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| 19:01.18 | jameswf | Stefan1979: you get what you pay for doed phoniceq offer tech support |
| 19:01.22 | Stefan1979 | kyron: I have already been a cheapass |
| 19:01.31 | kyron | heheh |
| 19:01.42 | jameswf | s/doed/does/ |
| 19:01.46 | Navion | What timing are you using? You should be loop timed to the carrier. |
| 19:01.58 | Stefan1979 | Navion> slave to the carier |
| 19:02.00 | Q3Man | anyone see a problem repurposing an old P4/2ghz/768mb ram with a 4-line digium card for a small(7-8 phone) office? |
| 19:02.02 | kyron | Stefan1979, E1? |
| 19:02.15 | Stefan1979 | kyron: T1 |
| 19:02.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Q3Man: NONE AT ALL. |
| 19:02.22 | kyron | Q3Man, more than overkill |
| 19:02.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Q3Man: more than comfortable |
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| 19:02.32 | Q3Man | nice to know |
| 19:02.32 | kyron | Q3Man, as long as you build it correctly ;) |
| 19:02.46 | jameswf | advantage to digium/rhino/the s guys... the make what they sell and support it... .best you can usualy get with clones is ummmmm i dunno go to the irc channel |
| 19:02.53 | J4k3 | Q3Man: power consumption |
| 19:03.02 | J4k3 | and lack of reliability... P4-2.0 is the peak of the capacitor fiasco |
| 19:03.15 | Q3Man | I'm just going to install trixbox, order some polycoms and hope for the best |
| 19:03.25 | Navion | Q3Man we have that same set up here running ~10 phones and it works fine. Memory is a little light. We see some +80% utilizaton on memory some times. |
| 19:03.28 | jameswf | he sait the t word |
| 19:03.34 | [TK]D-Fender | O....M...G |
| 19:03.36 | kyron | Q3Man, #trixbox |
| 19:03.37 | kyron | :P |
| 19:03.48 | jameswf | damn korean keyboard causing major typos |
| 19:03.49 | Q3Man | would I be better off going another way? |
| 19:04.05 | kyron | Q3Man, you'll _need_ the P4 2GhZ + 789MB jsut for the interfaces and the overhead...but will be more then ok |
| 19:04.09 | J4k3 | Q3Man: respectable... my office runs on a P3-700 with 192MB ram and trixbox and some grandsuck phones. |
| 19:04.13 | jameswf | ~book | Q3Man |
| 19:04.17 | mamep | so anyone tested it before? |
| 19:04.20 | J4k3 | and it all works. |
| 19:04.28 | kyron | Navion, 10 lines takes 78MB??! |
| 19:04.33 | kyron | 780 that was.. |
| 19:04.47 | J4k3 | I'd suggest at least upgrading to a modern hard drive. |
| 19:04.53 | kyron | jameswf, good to know there's a | |
| 19:05.04 | J4k3 | waiting for I/O sucks in realtime situations |
| 19:05.06 | kyron | Q3Man, and mirror the installation |
| 19:05.13 | jameswf | kyron: i think it didnt work |
| 19:05.19 | kyron | bummers |
| 19:05.23 | Q3Man | I didn't get a msg if I was supposed to |
| 19:05.32 | kyron | ~book | kyron |
| 19:05.34 | jameswf | ~book > Q3Man |
| 19:05.38 | kyron | ~book > kyron |
| 19:05.43 | kyron | nope |
| 19:05.43 | jameswf | damn bot |
| 19:05.44 | J4k3 | ~book kyron |
| 19:05.47 | J4k3 | ~book |
| 19:05.48 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 19:05.51 | kyron | LOL |
| 19:05.52 | J4k3 | hm weird |
| 19:05.56 | Navion | Q3Man we have Sangoma cards with hardware echo cancelling... |
| 19:05.58 | J4k3 | (had to make sure the bot didn't crash) |
| 19:06.10 | kyron | Navion, pfff... showoff |
| 19:06.12 | jameswf | jbot you suck |
| 19:06.13 | jbot | and very well I might add |
| 19:06.23 | _DarWin_ | lol |
| 19:06.26 | kyron | L_oo_L |
| 19:06.35 | kyron | it's not dead, yet |
| 19:06.53 | kyron | btw, please tell me the porting to Windows was a joke.. |
| 19:07.02 | jameswf | jbot dropdatabase; |
| 19:07.03 | jbot | So you think you could kill me, did you. You thought you could come in here, in my own home, and take me down without a fight. I would have given you a chance, really. But now, you have unleashed hell. May god have mercy on your soul. |
| 19:07.43 | jameswf | porting to bsd was kind of a joke |
| 19:08.13 | kyron | yeah, that's more than ok...but porting to win... HAHAHAHA... AS-IF windows was POSIX compliant. |
| 19:08.18 | Navion | Seemed like a good idea at the time. We have a lot of tail circuit delay here at the airport. WW I telephone lines hooked up to every piece of junk subscriber carrier the city could find. |
| 19:08.27 | kyron | Quite honnestly, that would be Digium shooting self-in-foot |
| 19:08.42 | Stefan1979 | (but now i'm still stucked with a crappy PRI card - anyone have an idea where to look for the cracking sound problem) (kinda desperate ;) |
| 19:08.59 | kyron | Stefan1979, E1? |
| 19:08.59 | jameswf | Stefan1979: no return policy? |
| 19:09.07 | Stefan1979 | kyron: yep |
| 19:09.26 | Corydon76-dig | Stefan1979: Honestly, what you're looking at are clones of Digium's first generation cards |
| 19:09.33 | Stefan1979 | jameswf: hmm probarely not - bought it b2b here in denmark.. I'll go ask the supplier on monday |
| 19:09.37 | kyron | sure you got the correct protocol (sorry if it's insulting I ask) |
| 19:09.44 | Corydon76-dig | Digium has long since discontinued them in favor of better models |
| 19:09.52 | Stefan1979 | Corydon76-dig: next time it is digium |
| 19:09.57 | jameswf | jbot: phoniceq is a company who sells clone cards without support or a return policy. seriously buy a oem card |
| 19:09.57 | jbot | jameswf: okay |
| 19:10.07 | Corydon76-dig | Stefan1979: so it's a hardware problem... |
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| 19:10.37 | Corydon76-dig | Stefan1979: you could try considerably older Zaptel and Asterisk to match, though I wouldn't recommend it |
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| 19:11.13 | Stefan1979 | Corydon76-dig: it is a old zaptel (since the phonicEQ driver are patched into that... :-( |
| 19:11.36 | Corydon76-dig | Stefan1979: and the asterisk version would need to match, then |
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| 19:11.44 | Corydon76-dig | Stefan1979: the versions are interdependent |
| 19:11.46 | stubert | asterisk.org down? |
| 19:12.02 | drynish | Hello! :) I would like to connect to a Cisco PhoneProxy through asterisk. Cisco PhoneProxy is listening on port 2000 (like skinny) so something that I would likely need is like a skinny trunk< |
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| 19:12.20 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o mog] by ChanServ |
| 19:12.28 | jameswf | Connection to 216.207.245.13 Failed << looks like it |
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| 19:12.51 | Stefan1979 | Corydon76-dig: Aarh.. Asterisk 1.4.17 Zaptel 1.4.5 |
| 19:13.47 | Corydon76-dig | Stefan1979: that's the version I would recommend with current designs |
| 19:14.16 | Corydon76-dig | stubert: emergency maintenance. 20 minutes ETA |
| 19:14.30 | drynish | Am I able to register with Asterisk as a Skinny phone? |
| 19:14.32 | Navion | Stefan1979 Is it cyclic or random pops? |
| 19:14.45 | [TK]D-Fender | drynish: No |
| 19:14.54 | stubert | Corydon76-dig: thanks... |
| 19:15.11 | b1ch0 | here again ... how can i hear spanish core voice on * (instead of english ones )? ... any tip ? |
| 19:15.30 | drynish | [TK]D-Fender, I would need to program that |
| 19:15.31 | [TK]D-Fender | b1ch0: go pick the spanish language pack when you compile * |
| 19:15.45 | [TK]D-Fender | drynish: You have the source, feel free. |
| 19:15.52 | Stefan1979 | Navion: seems random.. |
| 19:15.55 | stubert | Curious if there's a fix for the "no parking spot anounce" in CVS |
| 19:15.57 | Stefan1979 | (seems.. sounds) |
| 19:16.07 | drynish | [TK]D-Fender, Yes ! :) I will do my best ;) |
| 19:18.08 | Stefan1979 | Navion: +45 3961 9484 (gives you default music on hold) |
| 19:18.16 | Stefan1979 | (with the cracking sounds) |
| 19:19.30 | kyron | rafiks, so... your monkeys talking to ya? |
| 19:20.11 | J4k3 | talk to your own monkey, pal |
| 19:20.13 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 19:20.26 | Navion | Stefan1979 I assume you've had the carrier come out and check the line? |
| 19:20.28 | kyron | pwehehehe, cpu ticks won't let me |
| 19:20.55 | kyron | Stefan1979, if you have a T1/E1 analyser, your life would be much better ;) |
| 19:21.05 | Stefan1979 | Navion> they are looking into the problem (and then they went on weekend.. oh wait.. maybe i have a sla contract on that one) |
| 19:21.41 | Stefan1979 | kyron: Offcourse I have... Next thing I buy one of those cheap things with my cloned e1 card ;) |
| 19:21.42 | J4k3 | SLA 4 life |
| 19:22.42 | J4k3 | plug it in... got screwups on the modem tones? yep, your circuit/telco sucks. |
| 19:22.53 | kyron | Stefan1979, I was asking about that because I was once having intermittent problems with a T1 due to misaligned signaling (close but not the same protocol at both ends...) |
| 19:22.56 | Navion | Stefan1979 If it's coming to you on wire pairs it could be a bad repeater along the line. If it's coming on fiber that's less likely. I've seen bad timing recovery circuits on fiber too but again that usually periodic. |
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| 19:23.33 | kyron | J4k3, hehehe, good go/nogo check ;) |
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| 19:23.55 | Navion | Stefan1979 Do you notice any relationship between the CPU or IO load on your asterisk computer and the noise? |
| 19:23.57 | J4k3 | kyron: I got an ascend 6096 too, but I can't figure out its operating system *at all* :) |
| 19:24.24 | jameswf | I swear vmware is like mans best friend |
| 19:24.53 | kyron | LOL... I have an ascend pipeline from when ISDN was "da stuff"... it's still collecting dust in my basement, don't even know how to reset the passwrd |
| 19:25.07 | Navion | Stefan1979 Is it worse some times than other time or a constant random noise? |
| 19:25.08 | kyron | jameswf, not for realtime though ;) |
| 19:25.37 | Stefan1979 | Navion: Oh yeah.. it's on wire pairs.. and repeated at least at one station (our local exchange point didn't have e1) |
| 19:26.03 | Stefan1979 | Navion: There are no load on the machine... but i'll generate some and test - just a sec |
| 19:26.55 | kyron | Stefan1979, use dstat to monitor int/csw, it's probably more relevant in your case "load wise" |
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| 19:27.18 | Navion | Well, it probably repeated every km or so along the line too. The ones on the wire are the trouble makers. They get noise from adjacent pairs and think they are pulses and repeat them. |
| 19:27.38 | jameswf | I wish usb passthrough would work in vmware so I could connect my psp to my system... |
| 19:28.59 | SteveTotaro | ok, i have a problem with realtime sip entries vs static entries, the static entries process immediately but the entries in realtime could take up to ten seconds |
| 19:29.17 | SteveTotaro | the realtimedb is on a more than adequate server in the same rack |
| 19:29.35 | SteveTotaro | with .3ms ping times |
| 19:29.56 | SteveTotaro | this is asterisk 1.2.18 |
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| 19:33.56 | mintee | Channel 0/3, span 1 got hangup request, cause 3 ? |
| 19:34.35 | mintee | i'm not sure what that means, but it seems I'm able to dial outbound with my PRI to certain NPA's but some others not. |
| 19:35.31 | file | cause 3 is "No route to destination" |
| 19:35.55 | mintee | you think that has anything to do with my lec? |
| 19:36.27 | mintee | i can't call out to a 267xxxxxxx number using either the dial() function, or my SIP softphone |
| 19:36.30 | ManxPower | it could easily be a bad phone number |
| 19:36.35 | Stefan1979 | Navion: Wehu.. :) Seems that the sound problem could be fixed with resetting the e1 modem and fiddling with the connections |
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| 19:36.50 | mintee | ManxPower. nah, it a friends number. i'm sure it works |
| 19:36.52 | ManxPower | maybe you should be calling 1267xxxxxxx or 0267xxxxxxx |
| 19:37.04 | mintee | tried that as well.. |
| 19:37.13 | ManxPower | Or maybe you have the pridialplan set to something other than unknown |
| 19:38.11 | rafiks | hmm..zaptel wont build with kernel 2.6.24 |
| 19:38.46 | rafiks | looking for a bug fix.. |
| 19:39.00 | ManxPower | looking for a pastebin of the error |
| 19:39.16 | kyron | looking for a reason to run 2.6.24 |
| 19:39.28 | kyron | reason dis-je |
| 19:40.02 | mintee | Here ya go |
| 19:40.03 | mintee | http://pastebin.ca/872442 |
| 19:40.50 | ManxPower | mintee: We don't support GUIs here. |
| 19:41.06 | ManxPower | and put up your /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
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| 19:41.28 | brimstone | I did it. |
| 19:42.02 | moellerdk | Ok... Seriously... Running dnetc on our server, creating 100% cpu load completely eliminates the cracking sound on our e1...????!! |
| 19:42.11 | mintee | http://pastebin.ca/872444 |
| 19:42.15 | kyron | brimstone, wha?, join #asterisk ? |
| 19:42.21 | mintee | lol moellerdk |
| 19:42.24 | moellerdk | With an idle cpu there is a clear cracking sound... |
| 19:42.27 | brimstone | kyron: i did that too |
| 19:42.32 | moellerdk | mintee: I kid you not! |
| 19:42.33 | kyron | hehe |
| 19:42.51 | mintee | ManxPower, I haven't had a failed call other than to a 267 number |
| 19:43.01 | moellerdk | I can call in, and sit and listen. Turn off dnetc and the cracking sound starts, turn it on again and the sound disappears. |
| 19:43.19 | mintee | the specific number is on Helio's network |
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| 19:43.30 | mintee | just tried another 267 number and it works fine... |
| 19:43.32 | ManxPower | mintee: You did not include all of the config. what is in zapata-additional.conf |
| 19:43.37 | mintee | nothing |
| 19:43.45 | ManxPower | sounds to me like you need to call your carrier. |
| 19:43.52 | mintee | yeah, that's what I'm thinking |
| 19:44.55 | Stefan1979 | dstat output for dnetc running/not running - http://pastebin.ca/872451 |
| 19:45.14 | krdian_ | hello |
| 19:45.58 | kyron | Stefan1979, you have a dual core? |
| 19:46.16 | Stefan1979 | kyron: yep |
| 19:46.46 | krdian_ | do u know any software to voice stress/emotion analyze ? other than liarliar ? |
| 19:46.49 | kyron | Stefan1979, cat /proc/cpuinfo | wgetpaste |
| 19:47.07 | Stefan1979 | We were just thinking about going singlecore (but since we disabled all the usb controllers to get off irq conflict we can't get into the bios... figure out why..) |
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| 19:48.07 | SteveTotaro | what is the latest add-ons for 1.2? |
| 19:48.30 | jameswf | Stefan1979: simply add nosmp to your bootstring |
| 19:49.52 | Stefan1979 | kyron: cpuinfo http://pastebin.ca/872458 |
| 19:50.07 | Stefan1979 | jameswf: I'll try |
| 19:50.53 | plik | so for my reinstall, as a base OS: ubuntu server or ffreeBSD |
| 19:50.55 | plik | ? |
| 19:51.04 | plik | or something else |
| 19:51.09 | kyron | Stefan1979, plug in a ps2 keyboard ;)< |
| 19:51.38 | kyron | plik, I would think BSD is less cruft...but it's BSD, not linux |
| 19:51.45 | ManxPower | plik: if you use anything other than linux don't expect much help |
| 19:51.51 | cpm | a lot less cruft |
| 19:51.58 | Stefan1979 | kyron: i have a lot of computer stuff; and sometimes the oldies must leave.. stuff like pata cable, modems.. and ps2 keyboards |
| 19:52.27 | J4k3 | FreeBSD is stable and solid. Linux supports whizbang hardware... |
| 19:52.34 | plik | yeah, those are exactly the reasons Im torn... guess I'm gonna need some help for a while yet |
| 19:53.15 | bjingles | if you learn linux and then use freebsd it's a bit of a change |
| 19:53.30 | plik | no whizzbang hardware yet - just a cheap x100 clone (I *know&) ;) |
| 19:53.31 | bjingles | my problem was that the hardware that was supported in linux usually takes a lot of time to get working in BSD |
| 19:53.51 | plik | I've run BSD on various servers for a few years |
| 19:53.53 | bjingles | but once it's working it works and works and you're like whoa |
| 19:53.57 | J4k3 | the problem is |
| 19:53.59 | J4k3 | linux "Works" |
| 19:53.59 | ManxPower | FreeBSD pissed me off royally years ago and never looked at it again |
| 19:54.00 | plik | not quite that long |
| 19:54.14 | J4k3 | BSD really works, all the time, but its nowhere near as much fun. |
| 19:54.18 | bjingles | yes |
| 19:54.20 | bjingles | not as much fun heh |
| 19:54.28 | bjingles | and the bsd community.. well |
| 19:54.41 | ManxPower | APPARENTLY FreeBSD people think sendmail and perl are part of the minimum OS. |
| 19:54.52 | bjingles | yeah |
| 19:54.52 | J4k3 | yeah... spend some time talking to jkh sometime... *eye roll* |
| 19:54.56 | bjingles | BSD ppl are weird |
| 19:55.04 | bjingles | but they're hella smart |
| 19:55.07 | J4k3 | sendmail must die |
| 19:55.10 | ManxPower | I was told that issue was fixed, but I never bothered with it again. |
| 19:55.11 | bjingles | lol |
| 19:55.16 | ManxPower | J4k3: I agree. |
| 19:55.16 | kyron | plik, so you have to choose between less supported but stable and, `build it right` (go gentoo stage 3 and build your own *) and supported ;) |
| 19:55.54 | J4k3 | sendmail in 2008 is the basic equiv of cmail in 1999 |
| 19:56.03 | J4k3 | "wow you still run cmail? holy shit!" |
| 19:56.18 | plik | well, it's just for playing at home, so I guess I have a bit of freedom to change for a while... porlly do both sooner or later :) |
| 19:57.08 | plik | start with linux til I grok a bit more Asterisk though |
| 20:01.26 | J4k3 | the differences between linux and bsd... a lot of things in linux seem to spur from 'bedroom development' (ie - 14 year old kid gets crappy off-brand PC from parents for christmas, wants to run linux on it, and spends his summer reverse engineering the device and hacking out a very low-performance device driver that ends up being the defacto standard of all development later) and a shitload of wheel reinvention (come on, do we really need 500 distros? whats th |
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| 20:03.51 | tzafrir_home | J4k3, yes. There is much less reinvetion of the wheel that way. 500 distributions are mostly copy-on-write type of fork |
| 20:04.43 | kyron | plik, then I recommend you install a basic Gentoo (stage 3) and manually compile *, play with that... and you'll learn a hell of a lot more than any other approach |
| 20:05.12 | ManxPower | Gentoo is basically a BSD wannabe, so you should feel right at hime. |
| 20:05.16 | ManxPower | and home too. |
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| 20:05.19 | plik | linux always seemed a bit thrown together for a server OS, but I'm running ubuntu on my laptops and desktop now, coz I really cant be arsed with getting BSD installs (particularly X) to just work as nicely, but then bsd is great on servers |
| 20:05.27 | kyron | heh |
| 20:05.43 | plik | kyron: might try that then - just *another* iso to download ;) |
| 20:06.06 | Stefan1979 | jameswf: singlecore didn't help.. |
| 20:06.12 | J4k3 | I fail at gentoo, but it appears I fail at being able to build linux kernels too |
| 20:07.03 | J4k3 | plik: yeah, it was far easier to get x to work on freebsd 2-3-4 than 5-6-7 for some reason |
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| 20:07.50 | J4k3 | in 6 and 7 it seems x is pretty much completely ignored. Sure you *can* install it, but theres no way to make it start on boot or anything else in sysinstall |
| 20:08.14 | J4k3 | but, these days, if I want X I'll install ubuntu or kubuntu |
| 20:08.15 | J4k3 | screw it. |
| 20:08.36 | plik | J4k3: yeah, same same :) |
| 20:08.45 | SomethingISOdd | hello all question i have a phone connecting through sip the phone is behind nat. now when they try to make a call to my long distance provider they are getting the internal ip of the phone, i have set externip to the pub ip but they are still getting the internal ip address. any ideas how i can fix this please |
| 20:08.47 | fiXXXerMet | Anyone here use the flash operator panel? I could use some help. |
| 20:09.04 | fiXXXerMet | SomethingISOdd: Did you set nat=yes on the device? |
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| 20:09.18 | ManxPower | SomethingISOdd: Is your ASTERISK server behind NAT? |
| 20:09.22 | ManxPower | or just the client? |
| 20:10.53 | ManxPower | Maybe SomethingISOdd is one of those people that asks a question then goes to lunch |
| 20:11.10 | SomethingISOdd | ManxPower just the client |
| 20:11.28 | fiXXXerMet | SomethingISOdd: Did you set nat=yes on the client device? |
| 20:11.28 | SomethingISOdd | sorry i was reading though the manual again see if i missed something |
| 20:11.32 | SomethingISOdd | ya |
| 20:11.39 | ManxPower | SomethingISOdd: externip, localnet, and portforwarding is just for when ASTERISK is behind NAT |
| 20:11.49 | ManxPower | put in canreinvite=no and it might fix it. |
| 20:12.00 | SomethingISOdd | ok let me try it no sec |
| 20:13.48 | b1ch0 | here again, how can i listen to a core promt/voice in my windows machine ? |
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| 20:14.41 | ManxPower | b1ch0: any windows media player will play the ones in .WAV format. |
| 20:14.41 | kyron | plik, it's ~60 MB, use the minimal install procedure ;) |
| 20:14.48 | SomethingISOdd | ManxPower thank you |
| 20:14.51 | SomethingISOdd | worked perfectly |
| 20:14.54 | ManxPower | Otherwise you need to get a player that supports the specific format you are trying to play. |
| 20:15.11 | ManxPower | SomethingISOdd: feel free to send large amounts of money via paypal to eric@fnords.org |
| 20:15.18 | SomethingISOdd | k |
| 20:16.20 | jblack | Woot! I my state taxes were audited! |
| 20:18.25 | plik | kyron: grabbing it now :) cheers |
| 20:18.47 | J4k3 | jblack: ours were too right after the state government decided to tax-free all internet service under $25/month (this was back almost 10 years ago) |
| 20:19.08 | jblack | In my case, they're refunding $475. |
| 20:19.36 | jblack | out of the $500 I paid |
| 20:19.44 | J4k3 | they were pissed we went from a big wad of cash every quarter to like $100/quarter (almost all our subs were simple unmetered dialup accounts at that point) |
| 20:19.55 | plik | cool, new toys for jblack then |
| 20:19.59 | J4k3 | woot |
| 20:20.06 | jblack | nah. I'm going to pay off old toys. |
| 20:20.12 | plik | heh |
| 20:20.59 | kyron | plik, I won't be around to help you out unfortunately but will be Monday, do read the online doc, it will make your life much easier ;) |
| 20:21.39 | plik | there already - on first glance it looks pretty good for linux docs! ;) chat monday then = thanks and have a good weekend |
| 20:22.29 | kyron | plik, as a resource, gentoo-wiki.org and the official gentoo docs, I find the forum is too noisy. |
| 20:22.35 | kyron | by now anyways |
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| 20:28.19 | timeshell | Greetings |
| 20:28.23 | timeshell | TKD around? |
| 20:29.01 | timeshell | Or |
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| 20:30.08 | timeshell | Perhaps anyone who has experience... is is possible that the timing in a VMWare Asterisk server could screw up entered DTMF tones so that they aren't registred by the Asterisk server? |
| 20:30.08 | timeshell | And if so, is there a way to correct this? |
| 20:30.08 | ZPertee | anyone know of any fsk message waiting indicator lights that I can purchase? |
| 20:30.08 | kyron | timeshell, yes |
| 20:30.25 | kyron | timeshell, yes : don't run * under VMware |
| 20:30.27 | timeshell | kyron: Do tell please. :) |
| 20:30.28 | timeshell | lol |
| 20:30.37 | kyron | eh...that's the plain fact |
| 20:30.39 | timeshell | kyron: Testing a configuration |
| 20:31.00 | timeshell | kyron: Before building a production server |
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| 20:31.20 | timeshell | kyron: But the fact is, it's not the first time I've had DTMF not detected properly, even in a physical server. |
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| 20:35.08 | [TK]D-Fender | timeshell: perhaps you're using the wrong mode altogether |
| 20:35.15 | ManxPower | DTMF issues can be caused by MANY things, but I doubt running Asterisk in a VM would cause DTMF problems without causing other audio issues. |
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| 20:35.51 | timeshell | TKD: Explain? |
| 20:36.18 | Bawbatos | can anyone point me to a story, link etc that documents the largest install of asterisk user wise |
| 20:36.30 | [TK]D-Fender | timeshell: whats to explain? If you are dealing with a VoIP call, you may be using the wrong mode for DTMF. |
| 20:36.52 | timeshell | TKD: Oh, and btw, I can provide a pastebin of my results now ... rebuilt with CentOS, 1.4.17 and the latest SVN of *NOW |
| 20:37.27 | [TK]D-Fender | timeshell: GUI = bleh |
| 20:37.48 | timeshell | TKD: Yah, well, I told you why I'm using it yesterday. It's not for me. |
| 20:37.59 | timeshell | My person * server doesn't have GUI |
| 20:38.08 | timeshell | person=personal* |
| 20:38.24 | ManxPower | Perhaps you should ask AsteriskGUI questions on the correct channel? |
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| 20:38.51 | timeshell | I didn't ask an AsteriskGUI question did I Manx? |
| 20:39.08 | ManxPower | timeshell: TKD: Oh, and btw, I can provide a pastebin of my results now ... rebuilt with CentOS, 1.4.17 and the latest SVN of *NOW |
| 20:39.22 | timeshell | Was that a question? |
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| 20:39.37 | ManxPower | timeshell: realistically ALL questions for servers using AsteriskNOW are AsteriskNOW questions. |
| 20:40.01 | timeshell | Not really |
| 20:40.06 | drmessano-LT | Hmm |
| 20:40.11 | timeshell | Not when you're dealing with CLI and conf level stuff |
| 20:40.15 | ManxPower | At least AsteriskNOW isn't as bad as things like FreePBX |
| 20:40.19 | jblack | In the universe of this channel, we consider them as such. |
| 20:40.43 | timeshell | Well you shouldn't. |
| 20:40.44 | [TK]D-Fender | timeshell: GUI builds your confs. What a crazy circular statement you jsut made... |
| 20:40.45 | ManxPower | timeshell: when you have 400 lines of dialplan to handle one extension, I don't care if it's a conf question or not. |
| 20:41.03 | jblack | timeshell: Your opinion is duly noted. =) |
| 20:41.13 | [TK]D-Fender | timeshell: either way just try changing the DTMF mode around and test. |
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| 20:41.25 | rafiks | tried freepbx and trixbox...soo confusinf |
| 20:41.26 | timeshell | Whether it's 400 lines or 1, it's still asterisk behind it |
| 20:41.31 | rafiks | confusing |
| 20:41.47 | ManxPower | timeshell: Maybe so, but then remove the 400 lines of dialplan stuff and then we can help you. |
| 20:41.55 | rafiks | gui just sucks |
| 20:42.04 | drmessano-LT | dont lump freepbx and trixbox together.. Freepbx serves a purpose, trixbox is the minion of the 3rd level of hell |
| 20:42.19 | jblack | timeshell: Well... I might be a little confused... but even if your perception were more accurate.. that still leaves the question.. "Who owes you a damn thing?" |
| 20:42.30 | hmmhesays | anyone ever send am IM to a polycom ip 601 |
| 20:42.40 | drmessano-LT | But even still.. Asking a question about a GUI edited option is just STUPID in here.. |
| 20:42.44 | jblack | I would think that people that provide free help can dictate the terms under which they can provide said free help. =) |
| 20:42.46 | ManxPower | The biggest issue with GUI users here is that they know about as much about Asterisk as my cat and so don't even know enough to ask intelligent questions nor apply answers and suggestions. |
| 20:43.04 | timeshell | Err... why be in a support channel if A) you aren't offering support or B ) you don't need support |
| 20:43.18 | ManxPower | timeshell: we offer support for stock asterisk |
| 20:43.24 | drmessano-LT | timeshell, go to #NTP and ask about apache.. |
| 20:43.43 | drmessano-LT | "But.. but... youre a support channel" |
| 20:43.51 | ManxPower | and we expect you to know enough to be able to follow the instruction "pastebin the Dial line for the extension you are having issues with |
| 20:44.02 | timeshell | lol |
| 20:44.04 | timeshell | And I could do that |
| 20:44.06 | timeshell | :D |
| 20:44.08 | drmessano-LT | Being 'close enough' doesn't even count in horseshoes |
| 20:44.08 | [TK]D-Fender | timeshell: Just drop it already this argument isn't going to get anywhere productive. Go change your dtmf mode and TEST IT. |
| 20:44.11 | jblack | timeshell: I've provided a metric ton of help for asterisk. Partly, to payback the help I received when I started. Partly, becuase I have nothing better to do with my time. |
| 20:44.24 | ManxPower | timeshell: All linux distros use the same kernels, so asking a Debian question on a redhat channnel should not be an issue, right? |
| 20:44.26 | timeshell | If you didn't recall, I earlier stated my own personal asterisk server at home has no gui |
| 20:44.43 | ManxPower | timeshell: and you are asking questions about that server? |
| 20:44.45 | drmessano-LT | Speaking of Debian, ManxPower, I need help recompiling.. HELP ME NOW |
| 20:44.47 | sbingner | then ask a question about it |
| 20:44.57 | timeshell | And my problem would exist regardless if the gui existed, so it's really at a core an asterisk issue |
| 20:45.12 | ManxPower | timeshell: and that problem is DTMF, right? |
| 20:45.17 | [TK]D-Fender | timeshell: Ok, 3rd time, GO CHANGE YOUR DTMF MODE. |
| 20:45.23 | *** join/#asterisk FireMac (n=firemac@CPE000d88ae88b9-CM0011ae8bb0ee.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:45.29 | jblack | timeshell: GO CHANGE YOUR DTMF MODE. |
| 20:45.46 | drmessano-LT | shelltime: CHANGE MODE FMTD DOME |
| 20:45.49 | sbingner | and it sounds more to me like it's a VM issue |
| 20:46.03 | drmessano-LT | Wait.. |
| 20:46.06 | drmessano-LT | It in a VM? |
| 20:46.09 | timeshell | lol |
| 20:46.13 | drmessano-LT | It's* |
| 20:46.18 | jblack | Dyslexics untie? |
| 20:46.21 | timeshell | I'm testing a configuration in a VM |
| 20:46.26 | drmessano-LT | GTFO |
| 20:46.30 | timeshell | lol |
| 20:46.38 | rafiks | jharhar |
| 20:47.02 | ManxPower | unfortunately you have not given us any details about the DTMF issue. Missed or doubled DTMF on Zap lines are usually a gain issue, no DTMF on SIP is usually a dtmfmode issue, problems with DTMF to a carrier is usually a carrier issue, DTMF issues calling IVRs can be a Dial option issue -- or a gain issue -- or a carrier issue. |
| 20:47.35 | jblack | Or a timing issue due to running in a VM. Or an incompetence issue due to relying on a gui to do your thinking for you.... |
| 20:47.43 | ManxPower | timeshell: what was dtmfmode set to and what did you change it to? |
| 20:47.44 | timeshell | I'm trying to log in as an agent and the asterisk server doesn't appear to be registring the DTMF |
| 20:47.47 | jblack | I favor the last, as the guy isn't even in the right channel. |
| 20:48.06 | ManxPower | jblack: what in the world do you think a VM is going to do to an RFC2833 data packet?? |
| 20:48.09 | timeshell | was set to rfc2833 |
| 20:48.10 | jblack | timeshell: Here's a nice compromise. Anyone that wants to help you with Asterisk-now will meet you #asterisknow |
| 20:48.12 | timeshell | I haven't changed it yet |
| 20:48.31 | ManxPower | jblack: that's brilliant!!!!!! |
| 20:48.56 | kyron | LOL |
| 20:49.02 | jblack | manxpower: hmmm. dropping the packets? |
| 20:49.09 | ManxPower | timeshell: set to rfc2833 in sip.conf for the phone, in the phone config, in the carrier config, or in sip.conf for the carrier? |
| 20:49.21 | jblack | ManxPower: (Yeah, I misfired) |
| 20:49.28 | ManxPower | jblack: somehow I don't expect VMs to drop packets. |
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| 20:50.48 | kyron | drmessano-LT, LOOOOL |
| 20:51.14 | kyron | ahh....commic releif while I wait for the heating company to answer my request to fix dead water pump ;) |
| 20:51.16 | ManxPower | Maybe asterisk is just not the right solution for timeshell |
| 20:52.32 | kyron | drmessano-LT, just scroll up and see my response to timeshell . My work was done there ;) |
| 20:52.37 | ManxPower | jblack: the primary issues with VMs that I've heard of are not being able to access the ZAP hardware, ztdummy relies on USB or RTC timing and that is not reliable in a VM. |
| 20:53.04 | ManxPower | and if Asterisk does not have timing you can't do things like IAX2 trunking or MeetMe |
| 20:53.29 | jblack | Yeah. I was thinking about rtp timing and such in a VM. I wasn't thinking carefully about how rfc2833 packets are setup. |
| 20:53.41 | ManxPower | and of course, there is the issue of extra network jitter which could cause audio issues. |
| 20:54.00 | rafiks | kyron : just compiled everything ,,it worked! thanks for the help! HZ=1000 did it,,now why ? |
| 20:54.06 | jblack | I deal with timing issues here constantly, as I have two realtime apps on one machine. |
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| 20:55.24 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: because * syncs audio and witht he wrong clock.... well bad things happen |
| 20:55.35 | rafiks | kyron : had to go back to 2.4.23.14 though .. |
| 20:55.41 | drmessano-LT | Wireless,, |
| 20:55.58 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender : thanks for the help! |
| 20:56.15 | drmessano-LT | Installed 2 new wireless boxes here.. they're SO much better than the other ones, to the point I can see both in my office |
| 20:56.27 | drmessano-LT | So my laptop likes to randomly jump from 1 to the other |
| 20:56.31 | [TK]D-Fender | rafiks: keep riding that bleeding edge of yours... and while you're at it, please make sure stand on that plastic sheet over there... we wouldn't want you making a mess of the carpet :) |
| 20:56.34 | drmessano-LT | Even though one is 3 feet from me |
| 20:56.56 | sbingner | drmessano, and you dont have them set up so you can jump w/o losing connect? |
| 20:57.04 | drmessano-LT | They're el-cheapos |
| 20:57.10 | drmessano-LT | Consumer boxes |
| 20:57.14 | sbingner | I have linksys APs with openwrt |
| 20:57.17 | sbingner | works fine |
| 20:57.19 | sbingner | :p |
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| 20:57.30 | rafiks | [TK]D-Fender ;will keep that in mind .;=) |
| 20:57.55 | drmessano-LT | jblack hates everything |
| 20:57.56 | drmessano-LT | lol |
| 20:58.00 | sbingner | drmessano, they're not on different subnets are they? |
| 20:58.04 | drmessano-LT | Nope |
| 20:58.06 | jblack | That's not true. I love you, drmessano-LT |
| 20:58.07 | drmessano-LT | Same subnet |
| 20:58.18 | jblack | In a manly, Bruce Willis kinda way |
| 20:58.21 | drmessano-LT | I love you too jblack, now kiss me like whats his face was going to |
| 20:58.25 | sbingner | you try putting them both on the same channel? |
| 20:58.30 | drmessano-LT | No diff channels |
| 20:58.41 | sbingner | same channel may work better for hopping |
| 20:58.47 | sbingner | ie not lose connect if it hops |
| 20:59.01 | drmessano-LT | I dont want it to hop though |
| 20:59.02 | drmessano-LT | Ever |
| 20:59.03 | drmessano-LT | LOL |
| 20:59.11 | sbingner | then use different SSIDs? |
| 20:59.15 | jblack | drmessano-LT: You should be able to lock it in your config. |
| 20:59.15 | drmessano-LT | WAP1 is under my desk |
| 20:59.18 | drmessano-LT | They are on diff SSIDs |
| 20:59.28 | rafiks | got another error ..got something to do with voicemail failing to get database... |
| 20:59.29 | sbingner | oh, you juts have both configured on LT |
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| 20:59.51 | rafiks | "app_voicemail.c:2238 inboxcount: Failed to obtain database object for 'asterisk'!" |
| 20:59.52 | jblack | Certainly you can in Linux and Vista. |
| 21:00.05 | drmessano-LT | oh |
| 21:00.07 | drmessano-LT | Duh |
| 21:00.12 | jblack | rafiks: Ohhhh. You forgot your * anniversary, and she's so _pissed_ now.. |
| 21:00.37 | jblack | You shoudl hvae given her a proper database object. :) |
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| 21:00.49 | *** part/#asterisk beek (n=klinebl@static-71-240-222-16.alt.east.verizon.net) |
| 21:00.50 | jblack | jbot: Smack jblack for unfunny joke |
| 21:00.51 | jbot | ACTION smacks jblack for unfunny joke upside the head. |
| 21:00.57 | drmessano-LT | When I added box 2, it set it as primary |
| 21:01.09 | drmessano-LT | So even though I am next to box 1, it jumps to box 2 |
| 21:01.12 | rafiks | jblack : sorry i forgot |
| 21:01.14 | drmessano-LT | Damn XP |
| 21:01.18 | sbingner | lol |
| 21:01.55 | drmessano-LT | Ive become so hateful of Windows I think I am darwinially unlearning it |
| 21:02.04 | drmessano-LT | I bet I forget how to use Ctrl-Alt-Del one day |
| 21:02.27 | jblack | drmessano-LT: I hear that abused children often blank out their childhood memories... Perhaps it's the same thing |
| 21:02.40 | drmessano-LT | AHH yes |
| 21:02.42 | drmessano-LT | It could be |
| 21:03.19 | jblack | That's one defense. THe other is a schizo break.... which presents itself as running 12 different operating systems at one time through virtualization |
| 21:03.36 | drmessano-LT | Is that why my asterisk is so jittery? |
| 21:03.40 | sbingner | damn. I've done both. |
| 21:04.06 | *** join/#asterisk asr33 (n=asr33@dsl-207-112-111-213.tor.primus.ca) |
| 21:04.23 | drmessano-LT | Should I add another core.. Its single core 1.8GHZ box with 128MB Ram.. I am running XP, Vista, CentOS, 3.11, and BeOS |
| 21:04.44 | sbingner | no, you should add another OS |
| 21:04.50 | drmessano-LT | Hmmm |
| 21:05.03 | kyron | rafiks, no prob, you got the answer on why for the CONFIG_HZ ;) |
| 21:06.55 | ManxPower | I am totally uninspired to do any work today. |
| 21:09.47 | *** join/#asterisk marl (n=marl@78.145.115.16) |
| 21:11.02 | marl | hi folks, can anyone tell me if its posible to recieve txt messages via iax2? i have several numbers that point to iax2 accounts on my * box, and am wanting to try and set up * to recevive the txt messages (and maybe email them to an account or such like) |
| 21:11.33 | asr33 | ~iaxy can this by programmed with a static IP address, or do you need to run DHCP server always? |
| 21:11.43 | asr33 | ~iaxy |
| 21:11.43 | jbot | hmm... iaxy is pronounced "Eeks-ee", a small ATA produced by Digium for using the IAX protocol in place of SIP. |
| 21:12.16 | ManxPower | marl: where are the text messags coming from |
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| 21:12.42 | marl | mobile phone to standard 01 uk numbers, the 01 uk numbers point directly to my * box |
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| 21:13.45 | ManxPower | marl: well your VoIP provider would have to accept the SMS messages on those numbers, then convert them to text, then send them via IAX to your server. IT might work if the phases of the moon were correct and you killed a chicken |
| 21:14.08 | marl | want to be able to send a txt from my mobile to my * box via 01411231234 and have * do something with that txt, at present if i send a txt to the iax number, i get the standard (bt i think) 'you have a txt message' that u get if someone sends a txt to a landline without a txt phone |
| 21:14.26 | marl | LOL |
| 21:14.49 | DrkShadow_ | arright.. I'm getting confused and annoyed. When I restart my phone, it takes the full registration period to connect (bout 3 minutes). Then it does, and I can dial _one_time_ and I get the message "chan_sip.c: Peer '123123' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 270" .. about 3 min later, it reregisters and I can dial again. |
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| 21:15.39 | marl | ok, anyone know if there any providers outhtere that allow setting up a number that will allow reciving txts and convert them to iax or maybe even an email or something like that? |
| 21:16.40 | drmessano-LT | Hmm |
| 21:16.49 | drmessano-LT | Sounds expensive |
| 21:16.49 | marl | i can setup a mobile attached to a pc to allow me to do this, but would be nice if there was something already out there |
| 21:17.17 | DrkShadow_ | but ignoring that.. dtmf doesn't work. Two models of phone (aastra 57i, Grandstream gxp-2020), both of which work on another server.. but on this server, trying to get to voicemail gives the long pause after the mailbox prompt and an empty password in the console. what's up with dtmf?.. |
| 21:19.57 | ManxPower | DrkShadow_: your phone is behind NAT. |
| 21:20.05 | ManxPower | DrkShadow_: your DTMF mode is not correct. |
| 21:20.21 | *** part/#asterisk stubert (n=stu@techtools.actusa.net) |
| 21:20.57 | asr33 | does anybody here use IAXy ATA? |
| 21:21.18 | marl | asr33, i have one, wats up? |
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| 21:21.57 | asr33 | ~iaxy can this by programmed with a static IP |
| 21:22.16 | drmessano-LT | asr33, just curious, why the IAXy? |
| 21:22.39 | asr33 | because it seems basic |
| 21:22.42 | marl | yup, u need to run the iaxy programming software for linux, or if u use windoz then there is a client for that as well |
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| 21:23.03 | drmessano-LT | Well, its only an FXS device, you realize that, right? |
| 21:23.18 | drmessano-LT | Weren't you looking for FXO too? |
| 21:23.26 | marl | IAXy is great for interfacing old equipment with * :) |
| 21:23.28 | asr33 | marl: can it have a static IP? |
| 21:23.34 | marl | yes |
| 21:23.37 | asr33 | fxs |
| 21:23.41 | marl | i program mione all with static IPs |
| 21:23.42 | asr33 | great |
| 21:23.47 | drmessano-LT | Why not get a SIP ATA? |
| 21:24.14 | asr33 | I use Asterisk, would like aix |
| 21:24.18 | marl | the static ip is setup in the config file, with netmasq etc. |
| 21:24.19 | drmessano-LT | Im sure the IAXy is a great box, but doesn't seem like a good "starter" |
| 21:24.39 | drmessano-LT | ok, asr33.. carry on |
| 21:24.47 | asr33 | my sip phones are too complex |
| 21:24.56 | drmessano-LT | ok |
| 21:24.56 | [TK]D-Fender | asr33: iaxy = junk |
| 21:25.08 | marl | lol, drm-lt, its the first piece of hardware i got :), was great to be able to plug in my cordless phone, rather than forking out for a wireless iax/sip phone :) |
| 21:25.13 | asr33 | they have features i will never use |
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| 21:25.29 | [TK]D-Fender | asr33: IAXY also = overpriced |
| 21:25.34 | drmessano-LT | marl, there SOO many SIP ATA's out there for far less |
| 21:26.00 | asr33 | basic ones without http? |
| 21:26.13 | drmessano-LT | No |
| 21:26.15 | [TK]D-Fender | asr33: without HTTP what? |
| 21:26.18 | drmessano-LT | They all have HTTP |
| 21:26.19 | ManxPower | asr33: IAX is not good for phones, just for servers |
| 21:26.27 | marl | ah, but iax doesnt have as meny probs with nat etc. iax is a single port, great for being behind firewalls |
| 21:26.44 | [TK]D-Fender | marl: Instead it jsut sucks :) |
| 21:26.50 | marl | :P |
| 21:26.53 | drmessano-LT | Im beginning to think IAX has a fanboyist following |
| 21:27.00 | marl | hey dies the job for me :) |
| 21:27.11 | marl | does rather! |
| 21:27.12 | drmessano-LT | dies is right.. nice freudian slip |
| 21:27.18 | drmessano-LT | :P |
| 21:27.48 | drmessano-LT | I wonder if I could survive a week being an IAX fanboy |
| 21:27.55 | drmessano-LT | SIP? Loser |
| 21:28.36 | drmessano-LT | In any case.. theres lots of nice SIP ATAs that are much cheaper that you can play with |
| 21:28.38 | ManxPower | marl: SIP does not have a lot of problems with NAT either. |
| 21:28.46 | drmessano-LT | With pretty HTTP configs tat work great on windows |
| 21:29.05 | drmessano-LT | SIP works great if you take the 10 secs to read about NAT and actually implement it correctly |
| 21:29.26 | drmessano-LT | I don't understand the MASSIVE ZOMG problems with it |
| 21:29.38 | drmessano-LT | Sure, I have to DO SOMETHING to make it work |
| 21:29.52 | _charly_ | hi, does anyone know where i can find chan_woomera for asterisk 1.4? |
| 21:30.44 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, checkout time, heading home, BBIAB |
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| 21:36.43 | Downchuck | anyone have feedback regarding vitelity.net ? |
| 21:37.05 | ManxPower | Downchuck: My boyfriend uses them. They seem to work fine for him. |
| 21:37.46 | Downchuck | thx |
| 21:37.53 | Yourname`` | I've been using them too, and they;ve been good. |
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| 21:39.00 | Yourname`` | Meanwhile, if I want to call a specific area code, like 415, I want the call to go through a providerA, how do I set it up? _416X. |
| 21:39.05 | Yourname`` | err _415X? |
| 21:41.05 | OctalMage | I have a vontage cordless/cord set up kit, is there a way I can set these up to run with asterisk? |
| 21:41.31 | *** join/#asterisk timeshell (n=Khoja@gw.lusi.on.ca) |
| 21:41.48 | timeshell | Greetings once again. |
| 21:42.01 | timeshell | well, appears it was the DTMF's that were causing the problem all along |
| 21:42.12 | timeshell | Changed to inband and everything started working. |
| 21:42.16 | timeshell | Horra |
| 21:42.29 | DrkShadow_ | manx: sorry I ran off, but my nat can't be incorrect -- _everything_ is forwarded to the box and I can connect completely from outside. The DTMF mode isn't incorrect as it works on a separate server. it has to be the asterisk config. |
| 21:42.55 | DrkShadow_ | my phone is registering every 2 min or so, and unregistering every 2 min later.. |
| 21:43.30 | jjshoe | DrkShadow_ what happens when you remove the nat device and connect the phone direct? |
| 21:43.35 | DrkShadow_ | lastly, installing the ztdummy module causes absolutely no audio to play over the connection. |
| 21:43.49 | *** join/#asterisk nephfl (n=none@wsip-68-110-130-57.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 21:44.06 | OctalMage | any one? |
| 21:44.07 | ManxPower | DrkShadow_: that is caused by a kernel issue with linux. someone here can help with that |
| 21:44.07 | nephfl | is there a good tutorial on passing variables from the dialplan to an agi script? |
| 21:44.18 | DrkShadow_ | jjshoe: that's.. not possible. It's a vserver :-) But in that case, all works. On the other hand, with the same nat configuration, all worked yesterday. It must be something I did to asterisk. |
| 21:44.26 | jblack | nephfl: It's not exactly a wide enough subject for a tutorial. |
| 21:44.33 | ManxPower | nephfl: Um, you don't "pass variables". Your AGI reads the existing variables, any of them |
| 21:44.35 | jblack | It's a single command in agi to get a variable |
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| 21:45.13 | nephfl | ok, is there a good reference/tutorial? |
| 21:46.14 | jblack | I"m looking the page number in the book up for you |
| 21:46.17 | ManxPower | nephfl: what language? |
| 21:46.25 | nephfl | php i guess |
| 21:46.37 | jblack | ManxPower: I don't see how language matters when it comes to agi |
| 21:47.30 | ManxPower | don't know php. In asterisk-perl you would use: my $faxpages = $AGI->get_variable("FAXPAGES"); |
| 21:47.38 | ManxPower | to get the value of the dialplan variable FAXPAGES |
| 21:47.52 | nephfl | ive never written in perl |
| 21:48.03 | jblack | nephfl: Ok, Page 452 in the book. |
| 21:48.05 | ManxPower | jblack: because nobody in their right mind uses AGI direct, they all use an asterisk agi library for that language. |
| 21:48.14 | nephfl | ok |
| 21:48.38 | ManxPower | there is one for PHP as well. |
| 21:48.46 | nephfl | i really just need to open a database and put in an intry for a phone number containing the selection made |
| 21:48.46 | ManxPower | perl just seems to be the most popular AGI language |
| 21:49.08 | ManxPower | jblack: indirectly? |
| 21:49.22 | drmessano-LT | Hmmm |
| 21:49.31 | jblack | Oh, you care to say it to me face? |
| 21:49.33 | drmessano-LT | I was offended too |
| 21:49.52 | *** join/#asterisk [hC] (n=hardcore@vpn.voxter.com) |
| 21:49.55 | jblack | Cmon! Be a man. Say it to my face! Call me a nut like a man! |
| 21:50.42 | jblack | Cmon! Call me insane. I dare ya! |
| 21:51.10 | drmessano-LT | Imagine what I would do to YOU if I'd do that to myself |
| 21:51.17 | drmessano-LT | !!!!111!!! |
| 21:51.39 | jblack | Questioning one's sanity is all fun and games until you realize the person you called a nut might _really be a nut!_ Huh! |
| 21:51.56 | jjshoe | perl + agi == hella easy, I of course can be paid to write an agi for you if need be ;) |
| 21:52.13 | jblack | Yeah. The AGI object is sweet. |
| 21:54.02 | OctalMage | Is there a way to hook my vontage phone up with asterisk? |
| 21:54.26 | drmessano-LT | I <3 Vontage |
| 21:54.50 | OctalMage | haha |
| 21:55.01 | nephfl | what type of vonage phone? you can hack the linksys ones to connect to asterisk... |
| 21:55.05 | drmessano-LT | You can set up an FXO device to the FXS vonTage box |
| 21:55.12 | *** join/#asterisk Martz (n=Martz@pdpc/supporter/active/Martz) |
| 21:55.27 | drmessano-LT | But man.. thats so ugly |
| 21:55.33 | OctalMage | IIts a uniden |
| 21:55.43 | drmessano-LT | wait |
| 21:55.47 | drmessano-LT | Its a PHONE? |
| 21:55.50 | drmessano-LT | Or an ATA? |
| 21:56.38 | OctalMage | Its a vontage kit, with a codless and a cord phone. |
| 21:56.48 | drmessano-LT | Ok, tell me what youre trying to do |
| 21:56.56 | Qwell | vontage kid? |
| 21:56.59 | Qwell | kit* |
| 21:57.04 | OctalMage | yeah |
| 21:57.06 | drmessano-LT | You had it right |
| 21:57.09 | Qwell | what is vontage? |
| 21:57.16 | Qwell | and can I be the next one? |
| 21:57.18 | drmessano-LT | Tell me wut u r trying 2 do pls kthx |
| 21:58.12 | drmessano-LT | R u WonTon use vonTage line wiff akerisk? |
| 21:58.14 | OctalMage | Trying to get it to work with our asterisk |
| 21:58.22 | drmessano-LT | Ok, IN WHAT WAY |
| 21:58.33 | drmessano-LT | "Workin Wit Akerisk" can mean 100 things |
| 21:58.58 | OctalMage | ok, so that we can make calls with this phone, using our asterisk setup |
| 21:59.10 | drmessano-LT | Ok |
| 21:59.20 | drmessano-LT | So you want the phone to be an extension on your Asterisk box? |
| 21:59.35 | Qwell | jjshoe: so, when are you guys gonna start promoting foncore more? Chris's post was the first mention of it that I've seen |
| 21:59.37 | drmessano-LT | You dont want to use Vonage as your ITSP via Asterisk.. |
| 21:59.51 | jjshoe | Qwell *shrug* it's been the name for a while |
| 22:00.25 | OctalMage | yes |
| 22:00.26 | jjshoe | Qwell we've been using it since we dumped shoddy digium hardware and all of a sudden digium legal department tried to stop us from using the word "Asterisk" which was hilarious |
| 22:00.26 | OctalMage | correct |
| 22:00.48 | x86 | jjshoe: what now? |
| 22:01.00 | x86 | jjshoe: you were trying to slander Digium? |
| 22:01.05 | drmessano-LT | You need to hack the uniden then |
| 22:01.15 | drmessano-LT | So google |
| 22:01.20 | drmessano-LT | Its probably locked |
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| 22:02.26 | OctalMage | yeah I believe it is |
| 22:02.26 | OctalMage | ok thanks |
| 22:03.47 | drmessano-LT | I wonder if Fonality will threaten me when I trademark 'trashbox' |
| 22:03.53 | drmessano-LT | lower case 't' please |
| 22:04.27 | jjshoe | Qwell did you see skype is offering a pbx solution now? |
| 22:04.31 | Qwell | ... |
| 22:04.47 | jjshoe | I'm not sure for how long, but I can't wait to see what I can do to it |
| 22:05.22 | jjshoe | "PrettyMay" |
| 22:06.41 | *** join/#asterisk Martz (n=Martz@pdpc/supporter/active/Martz) |
| 22:07.00 | ManxPower | Digium cards have had issues in the past. We switched to Sangoma a couple of years ago. I've HEARD that Digium has fixed many of the issues they had. |
| 22:07.52 | x86 | ManxPower: I'm a 100% sangoma shop now too... absolutely love them |
| 22:08.06 | x86 | ManxPower: I've heard horror stories about sangoma support, but I've NEVER had a problem |
| 22:08.11 | jjshoe | ManxPower why bother going back? sangoma is a seriously better product, and their engineering department actually listens. |
| 22:08.33 | ManxPower | jjshoe: we have no plans to go back. |
| 22:08.34 | jjshoe | if we run into something weird we setup access for sangoma, they take a peak, and send us a new version of wanpipe within a day or two |
| 22:09.06 | jjshoe | line up pins and push a module on? welcome to 1980 digium |
| 22:09.55 | *** part/#asterisk ddunavant (n=David@pool-71-191-27-16.washdc.east.verizon.net) |
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| 22:09.59 | x86 | yeah sangoma's support is top notch |
| 22:10.22 | jjshoe | anywho, I don't care to do much digium bashing, since asterisk is nice, for the most part |
| 22:10.31 | *** part/#asterisk lirakis (n=lirakis@65.200.191.241) |
| 22:10.37 | jjshoe | I just found it funny they sued us after we stopped using their hardware when we asked them to make changes that they wouldn't od |
| 22:10.43 | jjshoe | so now we say "Asterisk based" |
| 22:10.44 | jjshoe | lol |
| 22:10.59 | aztennenbaum | hey, so i want to run the command System(/var/lib/asterisk/scripts/pausefoobar) everytime I pickup a call, or dial a call |
| 22:11.19 | aztennenbaum | anyone know how I can do that?\ |
| 22:11.54 | ManxPower | aztennenbaum: that depends on many things. |
| 22:12.21 | jjshoe | hrm in fact I'm wearing a sangoma t-shirt today :P |
| 22:13.02 | timeshell | Hey, what's the best way to keep call records with asterisk? |
| 22:13.19 | aztennenbaum | ManxPower: Im on an extension (105) |
| 22:13.38 | jjshoe | aztennenbaum let me guess, you're trying to pause your music? |
| 22:13.43 | aztennenbaum | yup |
| 22:13.54 | Qwell | aztennenbaum: use muted |
| 22:13.54 | aztennenbaum | foobar has this awsome server feature |
| 22:14.04 | *** join/#asterisk Toerkeium (i=oo@201.216.206.221) |
| 22:14.10 | aztennenbaum | I can login with netcat to my windows box |
| 22:14.33 | Qwell | I guess muted wouldn't work in that scenario.. |
| 22:15.16 | jjshoe | aztennenbaum if I were you |
| 22:15.25 | jjshoe | aztennenbaum I would monitor asterisk to see if you're even receiving a call |
| 22:15.42 | jjshoe | aztennenbaum at work here we have a setupw here itunes will pause when our phone rings |
| 22:16.06 | jjshoe | ami -- or whatever it's called, the manager interface |
| 22:16.23 | aztennenbaum | nice, but is it whan someone picks up, or when they ring? |
| 22:16.35 | aztennenbaum | ami |
| 22:16.44 | jjshoe | when someone receives a call. You could also monitor when you start an outbound channel |
| 22:18.32 | *** kick/#asterisk [Deeewayne!n=file@asterisk/developer-and-muffin-lover/file] by file (file) |
| 22:18.41 | Qwell | O.o |
| 22:18.55 | file | You saw nothing. |
| 22:19.01 | *** join/#asterisk Deeewayne (n=dwayne@216.207.245.1) |
| 22:19.02 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o Deeewayne] by ChanServ |
| 22:19.04 | Deeewayne | :-( |
| 22:19.30 | WilliamK | see what? |
| 22:19.32 | WilliamK | :) |
| 22:19.57 | *** kick/#asterisk [Deeewayne!n=file@asterisk/developer-and-muffin-lover/file] by file (This is a Dwayne free zone.) |
| 22:20.13 | WilliamK | were you beating up on some kid for his lunch money? |
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| 22:20.56 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o Deeewayne] by ChanServ |
| 22:20.59 | Deeewayne | :-() |
| 22:21.55 | Deeewayne | thanks mr. file! I needed those |
| 22:25.22 | file | ^_^ |
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| 22:26.09 | Kimitaka | I'm getting failed to authenticate on invite when I try to dial out through sip. I'm trying to use sipphone.com |
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| 22:42.10 | *** join/#asterisk nny_1 (n=Scott_My@64.203.239.83) |
| 22:42.40 | nny_1 | anyone know of any dumps for the DCAP exam?> |
| 22:42.45 | mamep | hello do u know any free dial in number providers? |
| 22:43.08 | nny_1 | trying to figure out if we need to fork the cash over for the Bootcamp etc. Seems like a nice cert, but requires more dough than knowledge :D |
| 22:43.37 | Kimitaka | mamep: there are access numbers for sipphone.com that work fine, dial the access number and then dial the sipphone extension at the prompt |
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| 22:44.03 | mamep | i want local numbers for us and uk |
| 22:45.08 | ManxPower | mamep: then you will pay for them |
| 22:45.44 | ManxPower | speaking of free, can any recommend any free SIP services, other than FWD? |
| 22:46.20 | Kimitaka | part of the reason I'm learning asterisk is so I can buy another phone number and it will answer it and hang up on whoever had it last's creditors |
| 22:46.57 | Kimitaka | manxpower I've have reasonable luck with sipphone, although the customer support is basically non-existent |
| 22:47.25 | pat2man | has anyone here set up polycom phones with a dhcp server on a vlan? |
| 22:49.15 | Kimitaka | That is covered extensively in the 2nd edition o'reilly book pat2man |
| 22:49.59 | pat2man | ah, I only have the 1st edition |
| 22:50.41 | Kimitaka | I just bought it a few days ago. It's not on amazon either yet. It seems to have a lot of updates from the first one. |
| 22:51.02 | pat2man | good to know, I should go grab a copy |
| 22:51.34 | Qwell | ~book |
| 22:51.34 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
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| 23:05.58 | jblack | to *, that is |
| 23:05.59 | *** part/#asterisk nny_1 (n=Scott_My@64.203.239.83) |
| 23:06.45 | *** part/#asterisk Navion (n=billp@75-105-41-123.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 23:24.32 | drmessano | jblack, thats easy |
| 23:26.00 | drmessano | ATA ----- DIAC (to grab the line when the ring voltage goes > 60 ------- 600 ohm <> 800 ohm xformer ---- scanner |
| 23:26.10 | drmessano | err |
| 23:26.14 | drmessano | 600ohm to 8ohm |
| 23:26.33 | drmessano | $10 worth of parts + the ATA |
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| 23:29.41 | DrkShadow_ | Ok, when I use the ztdummy driver, and only when I use the ztdummy driver, I get no audio from Asterisk (e.g. when dialing voicemail) |
| 23:29.49 | *** join/#asterisk PDani (n=pekdanie@centaur.sch.bme.hu) |
| 23:29.52 | PDani | hi |
| 23:30.23 | PDani | what formats asterisk know? wav, and...? |
| 23:30.37 | PDani | i mean, in mixmonitor |
| 23:30.47 | PDani | recording format |
| 23:40.41 | jameswf | http://pastebin.ca/872758 << am I mising something? |
| 23:50.05 | DrkShadow_ | So, I Was told that when ztdummy prevents the system from producing any audio output from services such as voicemail that it's a kernel configuration option.. I'd very much like to know which option would affect such a thing :-) |
| 23:50.22 | DrkShadow_ | I'm getting lines such as: ioctl32(asterisk:11125): Unknown cmd fd(22) cmd(40044a35){t:'J';sz:4} arg(f6229140) on /dev/zap/timer |
