| 00:00.11 | mvanbaak | anywayz, I'm off to bed |
| 00:00.11 | b11d | no nat in there at all |
| 00:00.59 | hades123 | mvanbaak: night |
| 00:02.56 | Inssomniak | Can anyone help me with this error:"Peer 'pstn' is trying to register, but not configured as host=dynamic". My SPA box is set to a static IP |
| 00:04.55 | plik | Inssomniak: not yet, but maybe next week when my SPA arrives ;) |
| 00:05.02 | Inssomniak | heh |
| 00:05.19 | Inssomniak | mine just arrived today :) and Im still an idiot because I just started all this |
| 00:06.23 | plik | I'm not much ahead of you then... asterisk up just over 2 weeks |
| 00:10.38 | Inssomniak | OOH |
| 00:10.41 | Inssomniak | I got it to work! |
| 00:10.46 | tzafrir_home | Inssomniak, is that peer a device with a fixed address? A device that should register to you for you to know its address? |
| 00:11.42 | Inssomniak | yea tzafrir its a fixed address |
| 00:13.32 | FlatFoot | tzafrir_home are you a vampire ? you don't sleep ever ;p |
| 00:14.16 | tzafrir_home | FlatFoot, my answer is still "sometimes" |
| 00:14.23 | FlatFoot | lol k |
| 00:14.47 | Inssomniak | I changed the host=dynamic and it worked, although Im not sure that was the right setting to change |
| 00:15.16 | FlatFoot | hades123 , found a headache cure |
| 00:16.37 | FlatFoot | tzafrir_home is you XORCOM ? |
| 00:16.56 | tzafrir_home | I work there. |
| 00:17.18 | FlatFoot | ah thats what i started with , good product |
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| 00:18.44 | ruffyen | would anyone here know if it is possible to list the currently logged in agents when doing a call que? |
| 00:20.24 | Inssomniak | ok so if I understand this, for an inbound route to work, the trunk has to have some distinguishable property, such as DID number or an inbound callerID number? |
| 00:21.13 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak , gotta know what it is to deal with it |
| 00:22.04 | Inssomniak | I was just trying to figure out if a POTS PSTN call comes in, and there is no caller ID or anything, it makes it hard to route ? |
| 00:23.08 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak , need to send it to a context specific to unkown not hard to route just another bit in the dialplan |
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| 00:25.03 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak , GOTOIF could be your friend thre |
| 00:25.25 | FlatFoot | *there |
| 00:25.35 | Inssomniak | Its something Ill worry about later... right now Im lost as to why the CID from the POTS line isnt passed thru to the extensions |
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| 00:26.27 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak , i found i need to set callerid sometimes as the call comes in to get it to pass through |
| 00:27.22 | FlatFoot | Set(CALLERID(num)={CALLERID}) |
| 00:27.39 | FlatFoot | Set(CALLERID(num)=${CALLERID}) |
| 00:27.50 | FlatFoot | oops fat finger syndrome |
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| 00:29.27 | Inssomniak | duh nevermind it did work |
| 00:29.46 | Inssomniak | asterisk support name caller display as well? |
| 00:31.05 | *** part/#asterisk beek (n=klinebl@65.211.106.243) |
| 00:31.30 | keith4_ | is this bad? hundreds of lines of "Failed to grab lock, trying again..." when I place a call from a sip softphone |
| 00:31.44 | keith4_ | followed by "We could NOT get the channel lock for SIP/foo" |
| 00:34.14 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak , yep (name) |
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| 00:34.44 | FlatFoot | ~banana |
| 00:34.47 | jbot | it has been said that banana is a fruit, or banana.com, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/lucio/banana.txt |
| 00:35.56 | FlatFoot | ~beer |
| 00:35.57 | jbot | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 00:36.21 | plik | oops |
| 00:36.24 | FlatFoot | jbot still can't handle its drink |
| 00:36.26 | jblack | ~bananaphone |
| 00:36.26 | jbot | methinks bananaphone is cellular, modular, interactive-odular |
| 00:36.38 | FlatFoot | ~botsnack |
| 00:36.38 | jbot | FlatFoot: aw, gee |
| 00:36.50 | FlatFoot | lol jbot |
| 00:37.21 | FlatFoot | ~HappyClownPBX |
| 00:38.23 | FlatFoot | ~tincan string tincan |
| 00:38.55 | FlatFoot | so jbot is not all knowing |
| 00:40.14 | FlatFoot | hmm-home chinese medicine ? |
| 00:42.45 | FlatFoot | ~chi |
| 00:42.53 | hmm-home | FlatFoot: no i'm listening to the second slashes snakepit album |
| 00:42.57 | hmm-home | its some good stuff |
| 00:43.18 | FlatFoot | not heard of them what gender ? |
| 00:43.33 | FlatFoot | * gendre |
| 00:44.41 | hmm-home | slash from guns n roses old band |
| 00:44.54 | hmm-home | basic drive fast drink too much rock |
| 00:45.05 | hmm-home | i can dcc you a couple songs if you want |
| 00:45.05 | FlatFoot | ah a bit of rock then |
| 00:45.29 | FlatFoot | no hdd space left , ta anyway toooo much SKA |
| 00:45.41 | hmm-home | completely different vocals than gnr or velvet revolver, this dude is bluesy singer |
| 00:46.12 | FlatFoot | sounds good i shall look when i get back to work tuesday |
| 00:47.14 | FlatFoot | straw poll , who's in saturday now ? |
| 00:48.01 | plik | I am, but my irc client is still n Friday evening 19:47 :) |
| 00:48.25 | FlatFoot | plik , you SW1 ish ? |
| 00:49.13 | plik | occasionally... mostly SW15 or SE various |
| 00:49.30 | FlatFoot | ah thought we'd spoke |
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| 00:50.10 | FlatFoot | plik , you got DAVE ? |
| 00:50.21 | Inssomniak | ok I have one issue, I can call LD, local, etc thru the POTS line, but I often use a 3rd party LD thing, I dial 10159451<area><number>, but I just get a call cannot be completed as dialed recording |
| 00:50.25 | FlatFoot | dave-tv.co.uk |
| 00:50.25 | plik | we did a bit, but you mean theres someone who habgs out here from London too? |
| 00:50.44 | plik | no, gave up tv a gre years ago :) |
| 00:50.52 | plik | s/gre/few/ |
| 00:51.32 | FlatFoot | plik , fair nuff . just was watching the mad karate bloke very enlightening |
| 00:51.48 | plik | someone was taving about it the other day though |
| 00:52.21 | FlatFoot | plik , good channel. it's for BLOKES |
| 00:52.33 | plik | mayne a torrent will turn up some time |
| 00:52.44 | plik | mayBe |
| 00:52.55 | plik | can't type tonight |
| 00:53.13 | FlatFoot | plik , thats naughty ( torrents ) |
| 00:53.44 | FlatFoot | ah well gotta sleep , social worker 2moz ( fostering course ) |
| 00:53.50 | plik | much like borroeing a vhs really :) |
| 00:54.02 | plik | good night & rest well |
| 00:54.23 | plik | best wishes for the course too |
| 00:54.40 | FlatFoot | cheers plik , have a nice weekend drink beer enjoy life and dance as much as poss |
| 00:54.56 | plik | sounds like a normal day :) |
| 00:55.35 | FlatFoot | plik , have already been allocated a foster child ( girl ) and not even finished paper work yet .... |
| 00:55.42 | Inssomniak | is there a dial plan that just matches everything? |
| 00:55.56 | FlatFoot | _X. |
| 00:56.04 | plik | cya |
| 00:56.12 | Inssomniak | thx FlatFoot |
| 00:56.23 | FlatFoot | np Inssomniak |
| 00:57.04 | Inssomniak | hmm |
| 00:57.08 | Inssomniak | still not working |
| 00:57.30 | Inssomniak | I cant dial 10159451<area><number> |
| 00:57.54 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak try _1X. |
| 00:58.07 | FlatFoot | _ pettern matching |
| 00:58.19 | FlatFoot | X any number 0-9 |
| 00:58.30 | FlatFoot | . any amount of numbers after |
| 00:58.41 | plik | Inssomniak: do you need to add or strip and numbers for your carrier? |
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| 00:58.46 | nixbox | hi all |
| 00:58.56 | FlatFoot | plix good thinking |
| 00:59.33 | FlatFoot | Dial(${EXTEN:8}) etc |
| 00:59.37 | Daviey | FlatFoot 10159451222222222 is a pattern matching aswell :) |
| 00:59.44 | Inssomniak | plik, I just want what I type into the extension to be dialed on the PSTN, so far nothing working unless its a standard 1NXXNXXXXXX or NXXNXXXXXX |
| 00:59.57 | Inssomniak | sorry dialed on my POTS trunk |
| 01:00.10 | FlatFoot | Daviey , true |
| 01:00.19 | Daviey | <--- pedantic |
| 01:00.28 | FlatFoot | Daviey , smirks |
| 01:00.30 | nixbox | i have got a DID number, have setup Asterisk so that when I call the number, I receive the call on the softphone configured with Asterisk, i am not able to hear the calling party, whereas the calling party can hear me with no problems. The calling party uses a GSM mobile phone to initiate the call. what could be the problem? |
| 01:00.35 | Inssomniak | I tried 10159451NXXNXXXXXX in the dial plan with no luck either |
| 01:01.07 | Daviey | Inssomniak: add "_" at the begining as FlatFoot said |
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| 01:01.25 | FlatFoot | Daviey , you type too quick |
| 01:01.34 | FlatFoot | i was gonna say that ;) |
| 01:01.35 | Inssomniak | everytime I add the "_", freepbx seems to strip it out |
| 01:01.36 | Daviey | FlatFoot: apologies |
| 01:01.47 | plik | Daviey: so the underscore is litterally Starting With,,, so not neccessary if your matching a complete string with no extra chars |
| 01:01.48 | Daviey | freepbx :( |
| 01:01.53 | FlatFoot | ~freepbx |
| 01:01.54 | jbot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there |
| 01:02.05 | Inssomniak | ok |
| 01:02.33 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak freepbx is good for client sirt |
| 01:02.39 | Daviey | Inssomniak: People requesting support of freepbx here makes baby jesus cry :`( |
| 01:02.45 | FlatFoot | sites that wanna play |
| 01:03.07 | FlatFoot | if you want control leave it alone ;p |
| 01:03.07 | plik | everytime someone asks for freepbx help here, God kills a kitten |
| 01:03.22 | Daviey | [FACT] |
| 01:03.25 | FlatFoot | plix God who is she |
| 01:03.33 | Inssomniak | heh sorry, but as Im brand new in this, it was an easier start than diving into the confs (trust me I love a good complicated .conf but freepbx gives me a basic understanding of how asterisk works in the first place :) |
| 01:04.27 | plik | FlatFoot: there seem to be a few round here - the batty woman down the street, and occasionally thet drunk in the park - both seem to think they are.... |
| 01:04.31 | FlatFoot | Inssomniak try xorcom.com thats where i started . good product without the cruft |
| 01:04.37 | plik | oh, and SUC drivers in the city |
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| 01:04.54 | plik | sC/V? |
| 01:04.58 | Daviey | FlatFoot: you should go to bed, tis past 1am |
| 01:05.00 | FlatFoot | Daviey tab ???? |
| 01:05.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Inssomniak, You'll find no sympathy here. FreePBX owns your sorry ass and if you can't figure out how to fill in the blanks for what little it allows you to do, then they won't have much for you either |
| 01:05.27 | FlatFoot | Daviey true ! JUST CAN'T LEABE THE KEBOARD ALONE |
| 01:05.35 | Daviey | FlatFoot: type Dav<tab> |
| 01:05.42 | FlatFoot | there go those fat fingers again |
| 01:06.05 | plik | FlatFoot: step AWAY from the Keyboard - you have an important day later! |
| 01:06.21 | Daviey | can someone +b him? |
| 01:06.24 | FlatFoot | plik true , luckily not till 3pm |
| 01:06.29 | FlatFoot | night all |
| 01:06.30 | plik | heh |
| 01:06.33 | plik | ni ni |
| 01:06.39 | Daviey | nn |
| 01:06.49 | Daviey | On that note, i should probably go aswell |
| 01:06.51 | Daviey | nn |
| 01:06.59 | plik | cya |
| 01:07.21 | plik | anyone else? |
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| 01:08.13 | plik | right back to asteriskizing my .vimrc |
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| 01:25.15 | outtolunc | anyone want to assist in a diskette crushing party <G> |
| 01:27.16 | plik | if only I was closer |
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| 01:29.45 | outtolunc | yeah, i know how to have an awesome friday night |
| 01:32.27 | tinloaf | i have this line in my extensions.conf: "exten => _o.,n,Dial(SIP/"${EXTEN:1}",30)". i expect it to dial "foo@bar.com" if a client calls "ofoo@bar.com", but for some reason it only calls "foo" (and tries to resolve foo via DNS - wtf?) |
| 01:32.38 | tinloaf | where is the problem? |
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| 01:35.24 | stochastik | Is it possible to do a SIP Redirect in the middle of a call? |
| 01:35.43 | b11d | . |
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| 01:39.07 | weazahl | riddlebox: whats going on tonight? |
| 01:39.10 | stochastik | Or is a SIP Refer the correct way to do it? |
| 01:41.52 | Inssomniak | maybe Im an idiot but it seems once asterisk sees 10 dialed digits it dials right away to the trunk |
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| 01:47.12 | tinloaf | could it be that the ${EXTEN} variable is being cut before any @-Sign? |
| 01:48.47 | nixbox | i have got a DID number, have setup Asterisk so that when I call the number, I receive the call on the softphone configured with Asterisk, i am not able to hear the calling party, whereas the calling party can hear me with no problems. The calling party uses a GSM mobile phone to initiate the call. what could be the problem? any ideas about how to troubleshoot? |
| 01:49.21 | [hC] | Is there an AADK/aa50 mailing list? Trying to figure out how to set up VLANs on it |
| 01:49.37 | nixbox | when the call is connected, i do "sip show channels" on the asterisk console and it shows that ulaw and gsm codecs are being used |
| 01:49.47 | nixbox | has it got something to do with the codecs? |
| 01:50.21 | nixbox | i have also tried the echo test, echo test works locally from the softphone, but when i call Asterisk from a cellular phone, i cant hear my voice back |
| 01:52.45 | denon | that's good ... |
| 01:53.00 | denon | you can hear your voice back, its just happening so fast you can't hear the delay |
| 01:53.15 | denon | unless your pstn audio is broken one way |
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| 02:07.36 | JT | that's not good |
| 02:07.55 | JT | you definitely should be able to hear your own voice in an echo test |
| 02:08.27 | JT | and cellphone > pstn > sip provider > asterisk and back to sip provider > pstn > cell phone should have more latency than a softphone on the lan |
| 02:08.45 | JT | sounds like one side of RTP is failing |
| 02:08.54 | nixbox | hmmm |
| 02:09.07 | nixbox | JT, so how do i verify that and fix it? |
| 02:11.02 | JT | packet dump or rtp debug |
| 02:16.09 | tinloaf | can someone name the sip-uri of a sip-echo-service? |
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| 02:16.50 | nixbox | JT, i have turned on rtp debug on the asterisk console, when i initiate the call, i hear the demo-echotest message and can see "Sent RTP packet..." but when i say something on the cellphone, i cant see any packets on the asterisk console |
| 02:17.14 | JT | no recieved rtp packets |
| 02:17.18 | JT | might be a nat issue |
| 02:17.59 | JT | ~sipnat |
| 02:18.00 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 02:18.05 | nixbox | JT, i have a linksys router with asterisk pc setup as the DMZ, should there be a NAT problem even then? |
| 02:18.39 | JT | it all depends on your sip.conf, nixbox |
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| 02:19.31 | nixbox | JT, ummm, what could be wrong with my sip.conf, should i pastebin it? |
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| 02:21.57 | JT | nixbox: did you even look at the url i pasted? |
| 02:23.04 | nixbox | yup |
| 02:23.18 | JT | the aocomputing one |
| 02:23.19 | JT | read it all |
| 02:24.34 | nixbox | ok |
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| 02:27.20 | timeshell | Getting unknown rtp codec 126 received |
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| 02:31.03 | man_o_magic | Can someone please tell me what I did wrong... |
| 02:31.24 | man_o_magic | I have 2 SIP phones registered in sip.conf |
| 02:31.44 | tinloaf | asterisk keeps sending this in SIP-INVITEs, the IP doesnt look too good, does it?: |
| 02:31.44 | tinloaf | Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.1.100:5060;branch=z9hG4bK0a1e92cd;rport. |
| 02:32.13 | tinloaf | i think there should be my external IP - but how do i get asterisk to place it there? |
| 02:32.44 | man_o_magic | My dial plan simply consists of exten => s,1,Answer() s,n,Playback(hello-world) and s,n, Hangup() |
| 02:32.56 | man_o_magic | But it doesn't work |
| 02:33.12 | man_o_magic | it says 404 Not Found.... |
| 02:33.20 | JT | tinloaf: depends what you're connecting to. |
| 02:33.47 | tinloaf | JT: some server on the internet (mouselike.org, i think) |
| 02:34.00 | JT | that's fine if the server is NAT aware |
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| 02:34.38 | tinloaf | so if it assumes the IP sent to be wrong and uses the IP of the sent packet's header? |
| 02:34.41 | JT | nat traversal involves the server ignoring private ips in the sip message and looking at the ip headers and talking to that address instead |
| 02:37.08 | JT | man_o_magic: using s is wrong for that |
| 02:37.45 | man_o_magic | I am just following an example from a manual and they say it should play the file when u call |
| 02:38.00 | JT | the manual is wrong, try matching a number |
| 02:39.06 | man_o_magic | they said "s" means any extension... |
| 02:39.12 | JT | wrong |
| 02:39.18 | JT | only in analogue extensions |
| 02:39.38 | asr33 | that one caught me out also |
| 02:40.35 | asr33 | I ended up dialing 's' literally |
| 02:40.42 | man_o_magic | and? |
| 02:40.50 | man_o_magic | did it work? |
| 02:40.56 | asr33 | yes |
| 02:41.04 | man_o_magic | lemme try it |
| 02:41.35 | JT | why don't you just fix your dialplan? |
| 02:41.35 | asr33 | substitute 's' with number '123' |
| 02:41.40 | JT | replace s with a number |
| 02:41.42 | JT | dial the number |
| 02:42.50 | man_o_magic | yea ok, it was just an example. lemme do that [scratches his head, as he wasn't able to figure out how to dial "s" on his softphone] |
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| 02:44.05 | man_o_magic | hey that worked! [I changed it to 123] thanks guys |
| 02:44.21 | JT | np |
| 02:44.29 | JT | look into pattern matching etc too |
| 02:44.36 | JT | diaplan basics are pretty important |
| 02:44.40 | asr33 | we are all in this together |
| 02:44.45 | JT | take a look at that section of the book at least |
| 02:44.48 | JT | ~thebook |
| 02:44.49 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 02:46.26 | man_o_magic | @JT, that's the one I am reading, page 126, section Our First Dialplan |
| 02:46.38 | man_o_magic | that's where they say to use "s" |
| 02:46.50 | man_o_magic | I almost decided to reinstall * |
| 02:47.04 | man_o_magic | I thought maybe I phukt something up |
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| 02:50.28 | JT | man_o_magic: they must be talking about if you have an analogue fxs card installed |
| 02:50.33 | JT | seems like a bit of an oversight |
| 02:51.37 | nixbox | JT, got it fixed, thanks |
| 02:51.46 | JT | nixbox: what was the issue? |
| 02:52.43 | nixbox | i turned off DMZ configuration for asterisk, so it became behind NAT, forwarded the required ports and added "qualify=yes" and "nat=yes" in sip.conf |
| 02:53.38 | JT | you don't need to forward any ports usually if it's just behind nat not acting as server |
| 02:53.41 | man_o_magic | @JT, probably so. Well now that I finally set up my first Hello Wold dialplan, lemme get back to my book. I hope yall stick around for a bit, I am sure I will have some questions :) |
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| 03:13.44 | b11d | I fucking fixed my no audio problem!! |
| 03:14.06 | WilliamK | :) |
| 03:14.25 | WilliamK | did spanking fix it? |
| 03:15.27 | b11d | yes |
| 03:15.29 | b11d | yes it did |
| 03:16.10 | b11d | echotraining = yes was fucking me over.. |
| 03:16.17 | b11d | i have it set on my PRI, but dont want it for my FXS ports.. |
| 03:16.28 | b11d | i set it to no, for each FXS channel.. and the problem went away.. Ahh.. fuck im good. |
| 03:16.29 | b11d | :P |
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| 03:17.24 | WilliamK | :) |
| 03:17.48 | b11d | I love the sweet feeling of post-problem satisfaction.. |
| 03:17.55 | russellb | yay] |
| 03:17.57 | b11d | its ALMOST as good as the post-fucked-your-wife feeling |
| 03:18.11 | b11d | thanks for your help with that russellb |
| 03:18.22 | russellb | lol ... np, don't think i really helped |
| 03:18.30 | russellb | my idea didn't work :) |
| 03:19.12 | b11d | well you still tried.. so thank you |
| 03:19.23 | WilliamK | I keep finding things to entertain myself with from bed since I'll be spending lots of time there |
| 03:19.33 | WilliamK | so far I've got the pc hooked to the tv |
| 03:19.40 | WilliamK | and wireless keyboard/mouse |
| 03:19.56 | WilliamK | so now I could IRC from bed |
| 03:22.06 | kyron | b11d, why would you have echo training turned on for an FXS in the first place?? |
| 03:22.24 | WilliamK | and now I'm glancing at vudu's box |
| 03:22.25 | b11d | it was turned on for a PRI earlier in the zapata.conf |
| 03:23.23 | kyron | b11d, oh...and stuck around when you changed cards/configs... reusing configs will do that to ya ;) |
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| 03:25.15 | b11d | yeah well it works for my PRI so.. I reused it |
| 03:25.29 | b11d | anyways..works now |
| 03:27.35 | xcompass | Hi, everyone, I'm a newbie. I just want to know is it possible to use asterisk with a modem to connect a normal phone? |
| 03:29.01 | plik | *Some*modems with a suitable intel chip will work, but it's not really recommended |
| 03:29.36 | plik | youd be better off with a decent card, or at least an ATA like the linksys spa3120 |
| 03:33.12 | xcompass | is there any docs I can read about it? thanks! |
| 03:33.54 | b11d | I have NEVER heard or seen a modem being used as an ATA.. |
| 03:34.01 | b11d | i'd love to see that too.. |
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| 03:36.28 | WilliamK | b11d, you've never worked with an x100p clone? |
| 03:36.34 | b11d | no I havent.. |
| 03:36.49 | WilliamK | it's just a voicemodem with like an ambient chipset |
| 03:36.56 | WilliamK | works well for what I've done with it |
| 03:37.20 | WilliamK | go snag one off ebay and play with it :) |
| 03:37.22 | b11d | i assumed he was talking about using his modem like an FXS port though |
| 03:38.00 | WilliamK | ya, that won't work as the power is reversed |
| 03:38.19 | plik | oh 'phone' i mis-read that as meaning the line - Doh |
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| 03:39.33 | xcompass | i'm little confused :( |
| 03:39.52 | WilliamK | xcompass, you need an analog gateway that has an FXS port |
| 03:39.54 | b11d | xcompass.. you want to plug a regular telephone into a modem and use it through asterisk, right?> |
| 03:39.56 | WilliamK | modems are FXO |
| 03:40.03 | xcompass | yep |
| 03:40.07 | b11d | yeah you cant do that.. |
| 03:40.08 | b11d | at all. |
| 03:40.33 | b11d | sorry :) |
| 03:40.36 | xcompass | it is impossible, right? |
| 03:40.40 | WilliamK | you can only plug a "telephone line" into a modem |
| 03:40.40 | b11d | right. |
| 03:40.51 | b11d | get something called an "ATA" |
| 03:40.54 | b11d | ~ata |
| 03:40.57 | jbot | [ata] Analogue Terminal Adapter which provides an FXS and/or FXO and ethernet, see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/ATA |
| 03:41.04 | Nivex | spa-3102 |
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| 03:41.27 | xcompass | en, but some modem have 2 plugs. one is for telephone line another is for phone |
| 03:41.36 | b11d | yeah..still.. no dice. |
| 03:41.38 | b11d | trust me. |
| 03:41.42 | WilliamK | 3102, 2102, and spa-2002s all work well |
| 03:41.46 | xcompass | hehe, I trust you ;) |
| 03:41.56 | plik | thats just to pass thru - it won't do what you want |
| 03:42.10 | WilliamK | xcompass, the other port doesn't supply power... for all intents and purposes it's a bridge between the 2 ports |
| 03:42.18 | b11d | fuck I misssed being in this channel.. |
| 03:42.23 | b11d | its nice to be back |
| 03:42.38 | plik | welcome back b11d |
| 03:42.41 | b11d | thanks :) |
| 03:43.02 | plik | only been here a couple of weeks myself |
| 03:43.07 | lunaphyte | i'm trying to get an spa3102 to pass incoming pstn calls through asterisk, but having trouble when i use a dialplan on the spa to pass callerid. |
| 03:43.26 | kyron | b11d, you sound like a masochist... |
| 03:43.26 | xcompass | hehe, thanks you guys. I have this question for a long time and have not got any answer from google |
| 03:43.35 | b11d | what makes you say that kyron? |
| 03:43.50 | kyron | oh...nothing.. |
| 03:43.52 | b11d | :) |
| 03:43.56 | b11d | sure.. I like pain. |
| 03:43.58 | plik | lunaphyte: take notes of how you fix it - my3102 arrives next week |
| 03:44.06 | lunaphyte | bah. |
| 03:44.08 | lunaphyte | :) |
| 03:44.44 | lunaphyte | if i configure the spa to dial an extension, i can get it to function, but then the call has cid of that extension. |
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| 03:44.56 | b11d | speaking of being a masochist.. you're the one wanting to use a winmodem as an FXO.. :) |
| 03:45.42 | kyron | but....but...I only need one! |
| 03:46.01 | kyron | b11d, irnoically, I never bought such crap so I only have _real_ modems lying around...ubnvortunately.. |
| 03:46.11 | kyron | then again..ther _is_ this _voice_ modem... |
| 03:46.28 | kyron | plik, pffff... you're so l337 |
| 03:46.42 | J4k3 | oh, and a solenoid (to lift the reciever) |
| 03:46.42 | plik | s/1337/old/ |
| 03:46.44 | b11d | L:) |
| 03:46.51 | b11d | I used to rock a 1200baud back in the day.. |
| 03:47.19 | kyron | b11d, yeahhhhhhh |
| 03:47.28 | lunaphyte | many suggest using a dialplan of (S0<:s>) - but it's not clear to me how to configure asterisk to accommodate that. |
| 03:47.43 | b11d | Let's all reminise over modem init strings :) |
| 03:47.50 | CrashSys | Long live Telex and z-modem? |
| 03:47.50 | kyron | ata |
| 03:47.57 | b11d | zmodem was the shit |
| 03:48.04 | kyron | y-modem! |
| 03:48.06 | b11d | i liked to use TERMINAT though |
| 03:48.10 | lunaphyte | what is an "inbound route"? |
| 03:48.15 | b11d | used to rock a Renegade BBS.. |
| 03:48.22 | kyron | b11d, oh yeah! |
| 03:48.26 | b11d | even did some work on Oblivion/2 back in the day |
| 03:48.53 | CrashSys | Ahh, the renegade 10-05 with all the hex-edited %df inserts to get extra ANSI screens :D |
| 03:48.56 | b11d | ahhh.. i miss those days |
| 03:48.58 | J4k3 | that was a blast |
| 03:48.59 | b11d | CrashSys.. YES!! |
| 03:49.33 | b11d | haha anyone do anything with Fidonet back then? |
| 03:49.38 | b11d | i wanted to but never did |
| 03:49.40 | drmessano | Rebuilding thrusters on spy satellites always makes me sleepy.. but I am back now |
| 03:50.03 | b11d | working on that radarsat eh |
| 03:50.04 | J4k3 | drmessano: the feds need to hire AAA |
| 03:50.04 | b11d | :) |
| 03:50.06 | CrashSys | I had a couple of fidonet groups I subscribed to with front-door |
| 03:50.09 | J4k3 | to get that piece of shit towed. |
| 03:50.25 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:50.26 | CrashSys | forget what the mail-scanner was called... fidomail? Man it was a double-barrel POS |
| 03:50.36 | b11d | bnu fossil drivers all the way |
| 03:50.45 | CrashSys | Yup yup, DESQview and QEMM here on a 386DX-33 with 8-megs ram! |
| 03:51.01 | b11d | haha yeah.. you couldnt even run Trade Wars with 8mb though |
| 03:51.09 | J4k3 | hah, I ran tradewars on 640k |
| 03:51.09 | b11d | you could rock LORD though |
| 03:51.11 | drmessano | I ported Asterisk to DOS |
| 03:51.11 | J4k3 | and floppies |
| 03:51.13 | b11d | no way! |
| 03:51.39 | CrashSys | LoRD and TradeWArs I ran on a 2-liner |
| 03:51.46 | b11d | 2 nodes.. wow! |
| 03:51.58 | b11d | I used to hook up a 2nd node when my dad was away for a few days |
| 03:52.01 | b11d | otherwise all single here. :( |
| 03:52.02 | CrashSys | LORDNET! |
| 03:52.08 | b11d | know what I hated? WildCat BBS |
| 03:52.17 | drmessano | Dopeware FTW |
| 03:52.19 | drmessano | Dopewars FTW |
| 03:52.22 | b11d | Usurper! |
| 03:52.28 | WilliamK | that was sorta fun |
| 03:52.28 | J4k3 | dopewars 4 life |
| 03:52.37 | CrashSys | Also played a lot of Usurper with the network part... |
| 03:52.43 | drmessano | Dude, your ho got shot |
| 03:52.43 | CrashSys | but LORD was awesome |
| 03:52.44 | b11d | Usurper used to rock |
| 03:52.50 | b11d | LORD was great |
| 03:52.55 | b11d | BRE/SRE |
| 03:52.59 | b11d | ever play STUDS or STUDETTE? |
| 03:53.07 | b11d | the "adult" doors |
| 03:53.09 | J4k3 | I loved the multiline wccode LORD |
| 03:53.12 | J4k3 | that thing was baller |
| 03:53.20 | J4k3 | I could barely sneak my way to getting pr0n |
| 03:53.24 | lunaphyte | i'm not using asterisk@home - could someone tell me what this would look like if you went into the actual asterisk config files after doing it? http://rafb.net/p/2XzQp615.html |
| 03:53.37 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 03:53.41 | b11d | lol |
| 03:53.55 | CrashSys | hahaha... pr0n consisted of a 3-minute download for a 35K GIF |
| 03:54.05 | drmessano | Im not using Callweaver.. but since the files are close enough, if I were to use this: PASTE |
| 03:54.09 | CrashSys | Damn kids have no appreciation now a days... if they cant stream in HD it's all crap |
| 03:54.22 | b11d | i know. i know.. |
| 03:54.23 | drmessano | GIF87, bitches |
| 03:54.27 | WilliamK | CrashSys, those were the days when you had to BEG for it to download |
| 03:54.30 | J4k3 | I eventually moved to running an ISP, so I had 20 POTS lines installed, and the only non-ppp dialin on my portmaster 2 was "bbs" which rlogin'd you (8 bit, yay) to wildcat5 |
| 03:54.39 | b11d | ahhahaha I remmeber when I worked all summer to get an EGA card and an extra 4mb of ram.. |
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| 03:55.03 | J4k3 | CrashSys: I'd go all out and spend 30-40 minutes getting .gl pr0n |
| 03:55.07 | b11d | I had a friend with 24MB of RAM and I remember thinking how absoutly ridiculous that was.. |
| 03:55.08 | WilliamK | oh and then hope the image didn't go to being all pixelated |
| 03:55.11 | J4k3 | 15 repeating frames, so hot. |
| 03:55.15 | b11d | 20MB hard drive was nuts |
| 03:55.34 | b11d | <J4k3> 15 repeating frames, so hot. <--- that cracked me up hard over here |
| 03:55.35 | WilliamK | I still have my 170mb hdd |
| 03:55.38 | CrashSys | Winsock Client on WFW... the golden age of internet :) |
| 03:55.39 | drmessano | I have a 20MB Connor drive somewhere |
| 03:55.48 | b11d | trading 120MB tapes via snail mail.. |
| 03:55.58 | J4k3 | bild: when I had a 386DX/40, 4mb ram, and a 105MB HD and everyone considered that insane (all my friends had 8088's or 286's and max 1mb ram) I had one friend with a 386DX/33 and 32mb ram |
| 03:56.04 | J4k3 | and a 387 |
| 03:56.10 | b11d | :) |
| 03:56.10 | WilliamK | got WFW on a server in a directory just saving for another vmware install when I get bored again |
| 03:56.14 | J4k3 | the FPU that cost more than gold. |
| 03:56.18 | drmessano | mIRC on windows 3.1.. best video game ever |
| 03:56.20 | b11d | yeah it sure did |
| 03:56.29 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:56.38 | WilliamK | even a original 95 install.... 35mb |
| 03:56.54 | CrashSys | I remember making smores with my pentium 60 |
| 03:57.02 | b11d | I had the OverDrive processor too |
| 03:57.05 | b11d | on my old 468 |
| 03:57.08 | J4k3 | haha |
| 03:57.21 | CrashSys | worked all damn summer to save up the money to buy the processor/mobo/ram and the damn thing roasted... |
| 03:57.21 | J4k3 | I remember the first 'pentium' I ever saw |
| 03:57.24 | drmessano | I found a PC years later with an overdrive.. Never saw one before |
| 03:57.27 | J4k3 | packard hell P60 |
| 03:57.32 | CrashSys | was like $600 down the drain |
| 03:57.34 | b11d | hahah |
| 03:57.39 | J4k3 | friend's system... I turned it into my bitch |
| 03:57.42 | WilliamK | I still have a p133 in my closet |
| 03:57.45 | J4k3 | OC'd it to 66. |
| 03:57.49 | J4k3 | elite 10% overclock |
| 03:57.49 | WilliamK | along with a K6-2 350 |
| 03:57.51 | b11d | remember the Turbo button? |
| 03:57.54 | b11d | lets bring that back |
| 03:57.55 | Nugget | is that a p133 in your pocket or are you just glad to see me? |
| 03:58.03 | J4k3 | b11d: asus is trying as hard as they can :) |
| 03:58.07 | b11d | hahaha |
| 03:58.18 | J4k3 | I wanna say lenovo is selling desktop PCs with a dial |
| 03:58.22 | CrashSys | I remember overclocking a K63-450 to 600mhz... |
| 03:58.30 | J4k3 | slow/medium/fast/til-it-overheats |
| 03:58.31 | b11d | the K6 was the SHIT.. |
| 03:58.35 | b11d | I loved that cpu.. |
| 03:58.39 | J4k3 | the K6-3 was awesome |
| 03:58.42 | drmessano | Dual Pentium Pro 233Mhz with NT on it |
| 03:58.47 | drmessano | Zoooooom |
| 03:58.53 | b11d | those were massive CPUs drmessano |
| 03:58.54 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:58.54 | CrashSys | Ran it for 2 years like that till it died a horrible death |
| 03:58.59 | J4k3 | drmessano: that was still a respectable machine until 2000 was mature. |
| 03:59.01 | WilliamK | I still have my p2-350 also |
| 03:59.07 | drmessano | yeah |
| 03:59.12 | WilliamK | with 3dfx voodoo extreme card |
| 03:59.13 | b11d | my media server at home is a p2-350 |
| 03:59.15 | J4k3 | I have friends that still use dual P2-450's with XP, love them |
| 03:59.20 | b11d | the voodoo cards were great |
| 03:59.21 | J4k3 | good SMP = snappy response |
| 03:59.24 | b11d | whatever happened to them> |
| 03:59.24 | b11d | ? |
| 03:59.27 | Nugget | asus p2b-s motherboard = hotness. |
| 03:59.29 | J4k3 | they got bought by nvidia |
| 03:59.32 | b11d | oh |
| 03:59.45 | CrashSys | 3dfx didn't innovate fast enough and the TNT2/GeForce killed 'em |
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| 03:59.56 | AJaymn | Anyone using g729 from Digium? |
| 03:59.59 | drmessano | I had 2 P-Pro 233 machines each missing a CPU... Wasn't using them for anything else, so I built a kickass NT box out of it lol |
| 04:00.00 | J4k3 | 3dfx thought 16 bits was enough for anybody |
| 04:00.06 | CrashSys | Man, if I had bought some NVidia stock during that whole TNT era... |
| 04:00.11 | b11d | 3dfx did a LOT with 16bits |
| 04:00.12 | b11d | :) |
| 04:01.01 | WilliamK | I'm trying to keep an eye on this content fight between netflix, vudu.com, and AppleTV |
| 04:01.07 | WilliamK | so far Vudu seems to be winning |
| 04:01.16 | CrashSys | Who was 3dfx's competitor before nvidia? Was ATI into hardware-graphics then? |
| 04:01.20 | CrashSys | Ohh, it was STB |
| 04:01.29 | CrashSys | And their VR chips |
| 04:01.56 | WilliamK | ya |
| 04:01.56 | WilliamK | Diamond Multimedia |
| 04:01.56 | J4k3 | my 386SX/16 came with an ATI card in it |
| 04:01.56 | J4k3 | an "Accelerated" svga card |
| 04:02.00 | WilliamK | and then DM went broke or something, someone came back and revived the brand Diamond |
| 04:02.01 | b11d | I think technically "Tandy" still exists too.. |
| 04:02.02 | J4k3 | ooh, ahh, that just meant it was hard as hell to find drivers for windows 3.1 |
| 04:02.22 | J4k3 | b11d: yeah, but the closest thing to a computer they'll sell you is a hole punch for leather work |
| 04:02.25 | CrashSys | Too bad glide didn't survive... was a nice quick graphics API |
| 04:02.29 | b11d | lol |
| 04:02.30 | robl^ | Tandy = Radio Shack ;-) |
| 04:02.34 | J4k3 | afaik "tandy" just refers to "tandy leather" now. |
| 04:02.42 | J4k3 | the original tandy company |
| 04:02.49 | J4k3 | radio shack was just a horribly successful offshoot of tandy leather |
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| 04:02.55 | b11d | fuck they really were leather |
| 04:03.02 | J4k3 | now radio shack is a glorified AT&T Cellular store. |
| 04:03.09 | robl^ | Tandy Computers -- was just a name of a line of computers.. manufactured by Radio Shack |
| 04:03.14 | J4k3 | bad cellular service for a badly equipped "electronics" store. |
| 04:03.18 | drmessano | Radio Shack sux now |
| 04:03.21 | CrashSys | My first computer was a tandy 1000EX with a Z-80 and 360K 5.25's |
| 04:03.36 | robl^ | Radio Shack ALWAYS sucked |
| 04:03.37 | J4k3 | 1000EX wasn't a z80 |
| 04:03.43 | J4k3 | it was an 8086 I think |
| 04:03.44 | J4k3 | or 8088 |
| 04:03.45 | drmessano | I got one of their store managers fired last year |
| 04:03.46 | CrashSys | well whatever it was |
| 04:03.54 | J4k3 | I wanna say the coco's were z80s |
| 04:03.59 | robl^ | no |
| 04:04.07 | robl^ | cocos were 6502 |
| 04:04.18 | CrashSys | I remember having it for 3 months and then trashing it for an NEC 286-DX16 |
| 04:04.23 | drmessano | Radio Shack once had a nice supply of components |
| 04:04.27 | AJaymn | Tandy Corp acually owned Radio Shack.... so it wasnt just a computer name.. |
| 04:04.36 | b11d | the coco was a motorola 6809 |
| 04:04.40 | J4k3 | ahh |
| 04:04.48 | J4k3 | hrm, did tandy ever make a z80 machine? |
| 04:04.59 | CrashSys | Got the computer used from my mom's work at the goverment, and then my dad got me ISA add-on system memory cards. I had like 40 megs of ram in a 286... |
| 04:05.04 | drmessano | Overseas, they're actually called "Tandy" stores |
| 04:05.07 | robl^ | TRS-80 Model 4 was z80, if I remember |
| 04:05.12 | CrashSys | with an 80-meg hard-drive... |
| 04:05.13 | J4k3 | ahh |
| 04:05.16 | J4k3 | trash-80 |
| 04:05.17 | J4k3 | makes sense |
| 04:05.22 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 04:06.19 | CrashSys | I miss having jumpers |
| 04:06.28 | CrashSys | speaking of reminiscing |
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| 04:06.57 | jblack | oh man I so dislike windows. |
| 04:07.01 | b11d | jumpers and dip switches were the shit |
| 04:07.09 | b11d | i miss them too |
| 04:07.17 | drmessano | Dip switches moreso |
| 04:07.42 | jblack | i don't miss jumpers and switches in the least. |
| 04:07.50 | drmessano | I've got a few pieces of equipment that you program the frequency with dip switches using BCD |
| 04:07.58 | drmessano | Now that.. you dont see anymore |
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| 04:27.12 | AJaymn | Anyone have experience with the Real G729 codec from Digium and the "pirated" one out on the internet? |
| 04:27.31 | AJaymn | Ive been testing with it and want to know if the digium one is worth the price? or if i should use something else |
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| 04:28.36 | CrashSys | Depends how much you like a cell-mate with a hairy back I guess... |
| 04:28.49 | CrashSys | Course, that's more white-collar crime... you could potentially just be paying for it the rest of your life... |
| 04:30.00 | AJaymn | thats not what i mean lol |
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| 04:30.08 | AJaymn | im not going to keep using it.. just testing. |
| 04:30.34 | CrashSys | A lot of software testing environments have a tendency to become permanent... just look at Vista... |
| 04:30.36 | AJaymn | im wondering if i was to get the digium one if id still have call quality issues.. or if its just from the "hacked" version |
| 04:31.04 | AJaymn | i have the "OK" to buy it as long as its going to work.. otherwise its back to GSM or u711... |
| 04:31.18 | JT | it's fucking 10 bucks |
| 04:31.18 | russellb | you could buy just 1 channel to test |
| 04:31.21 | AJaymn | onyl problem is i have users on the internet so 711 sucks :P |
| 04:31.22 | JT | one or 2 for testing |
| 04:31.27 | JT | is not going to break the bank |
| 04:31.42 | JT | you mean users with no bandwidth |
| 04:31.50 | JT | i use g.711 over the Internet without issue |
| 04:32.26 | AJaymn | ya thats the problem there on crap dsl |
| 04:32.51 | JT | if they have jitter and packet loss you're still screwed |
| 04:32.59 | CrashSys | I'd stick with GSM... most free softphones support it... |
| 04:33.10 | CrashSys | easier on the server end too |
| 04:33.21 | AJaymn | i havnt seen any ATAs that do... |
| 04:33.27 | AJaymn | they need desktop phones |
| 04:33.52 | AJaymn | there complaining of echo/static on a g729 line.. weird stuff.. |
| 04:34.05 | JT | what's on the other end? |
| 04:34.07 | AJaymn | thats why im wondering if its the "crap" versio |
| 04:34.13 | AJaymn | PAP2 |
| 04:34.20 | JT | other end |
| 04:34.22 | AJaymn | PAP2 <---> ASTERISK |
| 04:34.32 | AJaymn | problem from pap to asterisk |
| 04:34.33 | JT | to what? |
| 04:34.42 | AJaymn | since calls in and out of asterisk are fine.. |
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| 04:34.47 | JT | what's on the other end already? |
| 04:34.51 | AJaymn | i can call in with my cell to another cell and its sounds great |
| 04:35.00 | AJaymn | SIP trunks |
| 04:35.04 | JT | sip |
| 04:35.25 | JT | anyway there shouldn't be echo in the digital section |
| 04:35.31 | JT | unless something is really wrong |
| 04:35.36 | AJaymn | i know |
| 04:35.40 | JT | check it's not accoustic echo from whatever they're using |
| 04:35.43 | AJaymn | im thinking its the handset.. or wiring |
| 04:35.44 | JT | to talk into |
| 04:36.11 | CrashSys | or crappy headsets |
| 04:36.18 | CrashSys | echo is an analog thing... |
| 04:36.26 | CrashSys | mostly :) |
| 04:36.59 | AJaymn | i have a RT31P2 that has alot of choppyness. |
| 04:37.08 | AJaymn | and its sitting on a 10meg Cable |
| 04:37.48 | AJaymn | using g729 |
| 04:38.10 | AJaymn | i ping from the server to the user and its 79-83ms |
| 04:40.13 | JT | run mtr instead of pin |
| 04:40.15 | JT | ping |
| 04:40.21 | JT | or run ping for an extended period of time |
| 04:40.37 | JT | check for inconsistant network conditions |
| 04:42.04 | kyron | b11d, one of my friends keeps a live BBS off his Telnet port... it's one we had running quite a few years back ;)) |
| 04:42.04 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 04:42.06 | J4k3 | if your cable node has too much activity, it chokes like hell |
| 04:42.12 | kyron | it might still be up :P |
| 04:42.17 | kyron | Nugget, nooooooo :P |
| 04:42.58 | kyron | ouh, just noticed we had a 10min net split O_o |
| 04:43.01 | J4k3 | cable is like... non-backhoe-proof wifi. |
| 04:43.23 | AJaymn | packet loss of 14% just before the user from the cable co |
| 04:43.50 | JT | what about packet loss to their actual ip? |
| 04:44.01 | AJaymn | 0 |
| 04:44.32 | AJaymn | only one putting any errors is the cable co router |
| 04:44.38 | JT | no packet loss then |
| 04:46.59 | J4k3 | routeros is giving me no breaks tonight |
| 04:47.37 | J4k3 | 3 sites that I have no 24x7 access to, refusing to wds together, refusing to pass data worth a shit, refusing to let my laptop connect, refusing to acknowledge half the radios installed in the boards... totally nuts |
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| 04:48.23 | Nivex | dear $DEITY what's with level3 tonight?! |
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| 04:53.46 | J4k3 | ~vonage |
| 04:53.52 | jbot | rumour has it, vonage is a bunch of monkeys |
| 04:54.06 | J4k3 | jbot: vonage also has small feet |
| 04:58.49 | russellb | jbot: J4k3 also has big feet |
| 05:01.58 | jameswf-home | you know what they say about big feet |
| 05:02.05 | jameswf-home | they require big shoes |
| 05:02.09 | russellb | big shoes? |
| 05:02.53 | jameswf-home | ~big feet |
| 05:05.30 | husimon | is there some way to make external calls have a different callerid? |
| 05:05.52 | husimon | what I mean to say is, between phones I would like to simply show a 3 digit callerid |
| 05:05.59 | husimon | but when i'm calling out, the outside people should see the whole number |
| 05:07.36 | husimon | got my heartbeat setup going and it's pretty sexy :) |
| 05:09.36 | kyron | Nugget, wuh |
| 05:11.49 | drmessano | wow |
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| 05:12.06 | drmessano | I have 2 USR Modems attached to a PAP2 |
| 05:12.31 | drmessano | Trying to dial PC <> Modem <> PAP2 <> Modem <> Cisco PIX box |
| 05:12.40 | drmessano | Its horrid.. worse than horrid |
| 05:12.50 | drmessano | As expected, but it wont even negotiate |
| 05:12.51 | kyron | 300bps |
| 05:13.00 | kyron | hehehe |
| 05:13.38 | drmessano | I trying to remember how far their modems will back down by default |
| 05:13.58 | drmessano | I sorta remember some lower limit |
| 05:14.05 | kyron | atf11 |
| 05:14.11 | kyron | didn't that dump the config? |
| 05:14.37 | drmessano | Hell if I remember |
| 05:14.40 | drmessano | ATDT 911 |
| 05:14.42 | kyron | geez... I am loosing my AT syntax! ATS |
| 05:14.43 | JT | why is there a PAP2 in the middle? |
| 05:14.58 | drmessano | Because I am playing around, IS THAT OK? |
| 05:15.10 | kyron | JT, modems won't talk to eachother |
| 05:15.31 | JT | are the ports talking directly? |
| 05:15.49 | drmessano | Directly? |
| 05:16.05 | JT | or is there asterisk in the middle? |
| 05:16.07 | kyron | JT, he just need a NULL (unless they are too far apart ;) |
| 05:16.16 | drmessano | Theres an Asterisk in there too |
| 05:16.24 | drmessano | heh |
| 05:16.24 | J4k3 | I believe the automatic speed changer on v.34 and v.90's lower limit is 2400 |
| 05:16.25 | kyron | ahHA!...you lied! |
| 05:16.36 | drmessano | That may be the problem |
| 05:16.39 | JT | you are using g.711 aren't you? |
| 05:16.42 | drmessano | Yep |
| 05:16.54 | drmessano | I need a 1200 baud modem then |
| 05:16.58 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:17.04 | drmessano | I have an Intel 2400 |
| 05:17.09 | J4k3 | kryon: actually, they will |
| 05:17.24 | J4k3 | kyron: you just need two modems on the same wire with something that will provide talk battery and quiet termination |
| 05:17.49 | drmessano | Let me go get my spare line simulator |
| 05:17.58 | JT | or a -48vdc power supply |
| 05:17.59 | J4k3 | around here you just hand-dial 687-9906 (quiet termination) and tell one modem to blind dial (Don't wait for dialtone) and tell the other modem to ATA |
| 05:18.02 | J4k3 | blam, connected. |
| 05:18.15 | kyron | J4k3, ok, you need to put juice on the line, agreed...you can't do it on a "dry" line |
| 05:18.28 | J4k3 | kyron: unless you have USR Couriers |
| 05:18.35 | kyron | JT, a 48VDC will also do... :P |
| 05:18.43 | J4k3 | some higher end modems supported dry pair use |
| 05:18.46 | kyron | J4k3, woo...Couriers! |
| 05:18.47 | drmessano | I have a Hayes 14.4 at work.. crap |
| 05:18.51 | J4k3 | ebay for couriers |
| 05:19.00 | JT | kyron: phone lines are -48VDC, it's a matter of correct polarisation |
| 05:19.08 | kyron | I used to want one of those... but I have my sportsters.. |
| 05:19.41 | kyron | JT, I'm kidding you... it's a matter of...reference ;) |
| 05:19.43 | J4k3 | a courier looks like something darth vader would want to hump. |
| 05:19.51 | kyron | J4k3, LOOOL |
| 05:19.53 | J4k3 | its huge and ugly and black |
| 05:19.54 | JT | sure |
| 05:20.27 | J4k3 | bleh, I'm having all sorts of problems tonight |
| 05:21.12 | kyron | JT, phone lines work on balanced impedance and are essentially current loops, 48V is pretty much -48V in this context. |
| 05:21.27 | JT | i realise that |
| 05:22.30 | kyron | I meant matched impedance, or attempt to...hence the "pzitoing pzitoing pprrrrrrssssssshhhhchhhhh pzabalbalbalabla" modems throw at each other to cancel out echo the best they can by playing wit the impedance of the line :P |
| 05:22.33 | kyron | iirc |
| 05:23.19 | kyron | jt so, yeah ±48V :P...except when it rings...keep yours fingers off the two wires ;) |
| 05:23.49 | JT | it's not +-48VDC, it's 48VDC with reference to earth |
| 05:23.52 | JT | err |
| 05:23.54 | JT | -48VDC |
| 05:23.57 | JT | with reference to earth |
| 05:23.59 | kyron | JT, actually, this just made me realize something I was wondering about PoE...48V huh, intersting ;) |
| 05:24.35 | kyron | JT, but the phone doesn't know that...shhhh! |
| 05:25.42 | kyron | Is there a patch out there for human stupidity? |
| 05:26.01 | Nivex | kyron: if only |
| 05:26.34 | kyron | *sigh*...one of the office employees _once again_ downloaded some cracked software and fscked his system |
| 05:27.32 | kyron | anti-virus aren't worth a POS...can't even _prevent_ infections even if they run in real-time-scan-everything-go-back-to-386-era-performance |
| 05:29.18 | *** join/#asterisk AloSmart (i=AloSmart@12.110.48.242) |
| 05:29.22 | AloSmart | Hi all |
| 05:29.29 | BBHoss | sup dog |
| 05:29.48 | AloSmart | how is it going guys? |
| 05:29.54 | BBHoss | fscking great |
| 05:30.23 | kyron | well, gnight all |
| 05:30.41 | AloSmart | i have some basic question about asterisk and gmail |
| 05:30.46 | AloSmart | gtalk i mean |
| 05:30.53 | BBHoss | lemme guess, imap voicemail? |
| 05:31.02 | AloSmart | lol |
| 05:31.13 | AloSmart | how many times you have answered it :) ? |
| 05:31.24 | BBHoss | not many, what exactly do you want to know |
| 05:32.02 | drmessano | Ok, I got a 2400 baud external and a 9600 baud internal.. I need an ISA to USB adapter |
| 05:32.03 | AloSmart | i am running 1.4.12 |
| 05:32.33 | russellb | $ ./changes_since asterisk 1.4.12 |
| 05:32.33 | russellb | Changes since asterisk Version 1.4.12/ - svn revision 84480 |
| 05:32.33 | russellb | 512 |
| 05:32.34 | russellb | :) |
| 05:32.43 | BBHoss | yeah |
| 05:33.03 | BBHoss | if you're running 1.4, you might as well be at latest release |
| 05:33.04 | AloSmart | i tried the gtalk thing ... it works with one way audio ... i got the imap working fine ... thanks to google |
| 05:33.22 | AloSmart | but i am still having problems with the gtalk voice chanels |
| 05:33.26 | BBHoss | which is 1.4.18-rc4 i think |
| 05:33.27 | russellb | AloSmart: there have been a few fixes made in the latest releases |
| 05:33.36 | drmessano | rc4 is out? |
| 05:33.42 | russellb | indeed |
| 05:33.48 | BBHoss | im testing 1.6 ATM, looks good so far |
| 05:33.56 | drmessano | Bastards... slow down a little.. I just got rc3 |
| 05:33.56 | russellb | BBHoss: good to hear :) |
| 05:33.57 | AloSmart | are those releases stable ? |
| 05:34.18 | russellb | BBHoss: thanks a lot for testing it!! |
| 05:34.22 | BBHoss | russellb, one thing i'd like to try is SIPP, but its a bear to configure |
| 05:34.25 | russellb | i wasn't sure if anyone was ... |
| 05:34.29 | BBHoss | yeah |
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| 05:34.50 | BBHoss | also i like the new release policy, hopefully it will help out |
| 05:35.06 | russellb | BBHoss: i am hoping so ... |
| 05:35.25 | AloSmart | i was reading about best linux/ unix for asterisk and many people are saying that solaris gives more calls per server , anybody ? |
| 05:35.51 | BBHoss | heh |
| 05:35.57 | BBHoss | i would just stick with debian |
| 05:35.58 | AloSmart | i am using debian now... do u recommand solaris? or somthing else ? |
| 05:36.03 | drmessano | I'll probably grab 1.6 at the next beta.. |
| 05:36.13 | russellb | debian! |
| 05:36.21 | russellb | AloSmart: use whatever you're most comfortable with |
| 05:36.22 | BBHoss | solaris is not officially supported i don't think, there are some bsd-type issues |
| 05:36.37 | russellb | linux is the most well supported platform by far |
| 05:36.54 | russellb | the problems we have with solaris are generally build system related |
| 05:36.57 | BBHoss | yeah, bsd is getting a bit better, still not perfect |
| 05:37.03 | BBHoss | well, as good as linux :) |
| 05:37.03 | russellb | so if you get it compiled, it should be good, heh |
| 05:37.25 | russellb | are you saying asterisk isn't perfect? |
| 05:37.26 | AloSmart | ok... |
| 05:37.35 | AloSmart | hehe, it is getting there |
| 05:37.36 | BBHoss | no. no no :) |
| 05:37.40 | AloSmart | ; |
| 05:37.42 | AloSmart | ) |
| 05:37.43 | russellb | darn! |
| 05:37.45 | BBHoss | 1.4 has improved loads |
| 05:37.46 | denon | what? asterisk isn't perfect? |
| 05:37.48 | russellb | i guess i still have a job though! |
| 05:37.55 | AloSmart | hehe |
| 05:37.55 | denon | oh crap, I've been marketing it as perfect |
| 05:37.57 | russellb | BBHoss: good to hear, too :) |
| 05:38.01 | drmessano | If asterisk was perfect, I would stop using it.. I like new stuff ;) |
| 05:38.07 | russellb | heh |
| 05:38.10 | AloSmart | denon , you will not be suied |
| 05:38.14 | denon | Avaya was *just* about to bite on my dsp-embedded-asterisk! |
| 05:38.18 | russellb | it's not quite new anymore ... but we sure have come a longgggggg way |
| 05:38.23 | russellb | still plenty to do for sure ... |
| 05:38.34 | drmessano | Well, "new features" rather |
| 05:38.35 | AloSmart | yeh, still alot to do... |
| 05:38.36 | denon | AloSmart: no? I'm embedding it into DSPs, and burning the GPL |
| 05:38.49 | denon | we have a GPL burning ceremony every friday |
| 05:38.53 | AloSmart | wmmm |
| 05:38.54 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:38.55 | russellb | nice! |
| 05:39.05 | AloSmart | they'd better be rewritable |
| 05:39.12 | BBHoss | with the new release policy, we won't have to compile trunk to get the new features |
| 05:39.13 | denon | yeah, cisco buys the hot dogs |
| 05:39.16 | denon | apple buys the drinks |
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| 05:39.40 | drmessano | Drinks on Trixbox coasters? |
| 05:39.48 | BBHoss | sure :) |
| 05:39.49 | AloSmart | do you gyus know which softswitch is google using for gtalk? |
| 05:39.58 | russellb | i'm sure they wrote it |
| 05:39.59 | AloSmart | ser ? sip ? |
| 05:40.00 | BBHoss | probably home-grown knowing google |
| 05:40.06 | russellb | it's not SIP |
| 05:40.16 | AloSmart | jabber thing |
| 05:40.16 | BBHoss | it uses XMPP or jabber or something such as that |
| 05:40.21 | denon | AloSmart: probably altigen |
| 05:41.05 | drmessano | I think they're using ejabberd |
| 05:41.13 | AloSmart | do u guys know any good quality billing system for a prepaid platform... |
| 05:41.15 | AloSmart | ? |
| 05:41.53 | BBHoss | A2Billing is pretty nice |
| 05:42.16 | AloSmart | my goal is to have a system with 200 simultanuas calls and can be expanded |
| 05:42.36 | AloSmart | yes, i am already testing with that ... |
| 05:42.43 | AloSmart | still has a way to go |
| 05:43.34 | BBHoss | 200 simultaneous calls is a lot for asterisk ATM, you might want to get another server then use OpenSER to load-balance |
| 05:43.37 | drmessano | So what would the wager be on how fast I can get two modems to talk over ulaw? |
| 05:43.46 | drmessano | 1200 or 300? |
| 05:44.04 | AloSmart | after getting used to the code, since i am starting new in here ... how can i contribute? after adding a feature and changing somthing to make it faster or more efficient ? |
| 05:44.32 | BBHoss | can you code C? |
| 05:44.40 | JT | drmessano: i've gotten faxes to talk at 14.4kbps over alaw |
| 05:44.46 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 05:44.48 | AloSmart | U mean Openser to balance among 2 or more asterisk ? |
| 05:44.53 | BBHoss | yes |
| 05:44.59 | JT | drmessano: fax > ata > asterisk > PRI |
| 05:45.02 | AloSmart | yes i can |
| 05:45.03 | russellb | AloSmart: to get involved with the code, join the asterisk-dev list, and hang out in the #asterisk-dev and #asterisk-bugs channels, and hang out on http://bugs.digium.com |
| 05:45.06 | drmessano | oh |
| 05:45.09 | russellb | submit patches, participate in discussions ... |
| 05:45.10 | AloSmart | ANCI C |
| 05:45.13 | AloSmart | ANSI C |
| 05:45.28 | russellb | review and test patches ... |
| 05:45.31 | russellb | lots of ways |
| 05:45.46 | drmessano | I wonder if it would make any difference using diff ATAs |
| 05:45.59 | BBHoss | AloSmart, with your setup, are you going to be doing analog/digital termination with voice cards, or are you going to get a gateway to do it? |
| 05:46.04 | JT | i think it was a PAP2T-NA |
| 05:46.05 | JT | iirc |
| 05:46.14 | AloSmart | 100% voip |
| 05:46.19 | drmessano | hmm |
| 05:46.22 | russellb | i do 110% voip |
| 05:46.28 | drmessano | Im using line1/line2 of a PAP2 for it |
| 05:46.46 | drmessano | One Sportster 28.8, other is a Sportster 56k v.90 |
| 05:46.48 | BBHoss | AloSmart, so you have a termination provider and an origination provider |
| 05:46.50 | AloSmart | in DIDs comes as voip , terminaiton is voip to |
| 05:46.52 | AloSmart | too |
| 05:46.54 | BBHoss | then you are doing the billing |
| 05:46.56 | JT | maybe it can't handle them both hanging off the same ata |
| 05:47.10 | drmessano | Thats what I am wondering |
| 05:47.15 | AloSmart | yes, |
| 05:47.33 | jblack | The patchlog for trunk is boring. |
| 05:47.33 | BBHoss | AloSmart, well as long as YOU aren't the one doing the transoding or PSTN access, you should be able to do it. What codecs are you using? |
| 05:47.51 | jblack | It's like brady bunch. "Russell Russell Russel. Why is it always russel?" |
| 05:47.56 | AloSmart | ulaw with some of them and g729 with other .. |
| 05:47.59 | jblack | Can't you give poor Jan a chance, Russel? |
| 05:48.01 | russellb | jblack: lol |
| 05:48.11 | russellb | sorry. i'll work less. |
| 05:48.20 | BBHoss | AloSmart, g729, will increase your cpu load |
| 05:48.42 | AloSmart | yes exactly , it is a tradeoff between CPU and Cost of bandwidth |
| 05:48.53 | drmessano | I just grabbed rc4 from SVN |
| 05:48.58 | jblack | btw, you have some most excellent commit logs. |
| 05:49.03 | drmessano | seems like I was doing this last night with rc3 |
| 05:49.05 | drmessano | Oh wait, I WAS |
| 05:49.07 | russellb | jblack: thanks! |
| 05:49.21 | AloSmart | in my case a new server is cheaper than mroe bandwith |
| 05:49.38 | jblack | Just a shot in the arm for that day you feel like nobody bothers reading them.... :) |
| 05:49.47 | AloSmart | because i new server comes with X amount of extra bandwith ... |
| 05:49.55 | russellb | :-D |
| 05:50.01 | denon | you know, when citas had his changelog page .. |
| 05:50.10 | denon | I used to read the cvs commit logs daily |
| 05:50.17 | denon | like, every single entry |
| 05:50.27 | russellb | svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/trunk/?view=log |
| 05:50.28 | JT | AloSmart: dedicated hosting? |
| 05:50.33 | russellb | (that will take a while to load) |
| 05:50.35 | denon | russellb: yeah, but now there are more of em |
| 05:50.37 | AloSmart | yes |
| 05:50.55 | AloSmart | dedicated servers, i am already using 3 servers |
| 05:50.55 | jblack | i read them kind of like the newspaper. I like to do it, but it's lower in priority than my pr0n fix. :) |
| 05:51.04 | denon | russellb: and they aren't stuff like, "found the reason every single phone call has horrible echo. Hopefully this fixes it!" |
| 05:51.10 | denon | those were exciting days |
| 05:51.48 | jblack | qwell and tilghman could be encouraged to be more verbose. |
| 05:52.01 | russellb | i like being verbose ... |
| 05:52.08 | russellb | at least when the fixes are interesting |
| 05:52.33 | denon | being verbose helps someone diagnose whether or not a fix applies to their issue too |
| 05:52.36 | AloSmart | Are you familiar with the NACT switches ? |
| 05:52.44 | AloSmart | i used to code for them |
| 05:52.57 | denon | "fixed a blah bug" doesn't always tell you whether or not it's the oddity you were seeing |
| 05:53.16 | jblack | Heh.... I like 14554... 'make sure that a peer or hostname is actually given with iax2 dial strings. It's actually required.'. |
| 05:53.27 | drmessano | Hmm... |
| 05:53.41 | jblack | I wonder what he thought he'd get when he did a Dial("IAX2:") |
| 05:53.45 | jblack | localhost? |
| 05:53.47 | drmessano | My best friend is talking to his girlfriend.. I need to kill * to run the make install |
| 05:53.51 | drmessano | what to doo... |
| 05:53.53 | russellb | jblack: heh, i have no idea :) |
| 05:54.05 | drmessano | what to doo.... |
| 05:54.12 | russellb | it didn't really do anything that bad |
| 05:54.13 | jblack | drmessano: do you owe him any money? |
| 05:54.21 | drmessano | nope |
| 05:54.23 | russellb | just asterisk tried harder to figure out what to do with it than it could have |
| 05:54.29 | jblack | does he owe you any money? |
| 05:54.30 | russellb | so i made it check and bail immediately .. |
| 05:54.33 | AloSmart | so, guys , what do u do for living? |
| 05:54.36 | drmessano | crap.. asterisk just crashed :) |
| 05:54.40 | russellb | i work on asterisk :) |
| 05:54.41 | drmessano | crappy code :D |
| 05:54.48 | russellb | ~thwack drmessano |
| 05:54.49 | jbot | ACTION bludgeons drmessano on the finger with a 5ESS Switch |
| 05:54.52 | drmessano | heheh |
| 05:54.53 | AloSmart | who pays the bills ? |
| 05:54.56 | AloSmart | degium ? |
| 05:55.00 | russellb | AloSmart: Digium yeah |
| 05:55.28 | jblack | Oh, hey, did drmessano tell you about that sipphone oddity? |
| 05:55.41 | AloSmart | cool, |
| 05:55.42 | drmessano | I did not |
| 05:55.49 | russellb | uh oh, a bug? |
| 05:56.05 | drmessano | We thought so for a while.. lol |
| 05:56.10 | jblack | russellb: Nah, we don't know where the bug is. We just know it's in the relationship between sipphone and *. |
| 05:56.17 | russellb | ah |
| 05:56.23 | russellb | relationships can be tough |
| 05:56.44 | drmessano | sipphone is sending some weird shit in their headers... we, and everyone else on various forums, can't route inbound calls from them |
| 05:56.48 | jblack | Yeah, and sipphone is like one of those 22 year old girls married to one of them 77 year old wheezers. |
| 05:57.02 | AloSmart | russell do u have any graphical layout of the code? blocks or something visual ? to make it easier for me to start |
| 05:57.21 | russellb | AloSmart: not really ... the only thing is http://asterisk.org/doxygen |
| 05:57.30 | drmessano | Tried and tried.. but theres a lot of unanswered posts.. especially now that Grand Central is picking up steam, it has an option to call Gizmo (sipphone) numbers... |
| 05:57.38 | *** join/#asterisk bmg505 (n=leon@196.209.180.174) |
| 05:57.40 | BBHoss | russellb, do you know of any stress-testing applications that don't require windows, i can't seem to find anything like this: http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/astertest.html |
| 05:57.54 | russellb | BBHoss: asterisk itself works well :) |
| 05:57.56 | jblack | Anyways, sip sends invite packets that * doesn't think are valid in some sort of auth related way... * of course works with many other clients with auth fine, and sipphone works reasonably with other sip clients, so.. <shrug> |
| 05:58.21 | russellb | it's possible we can fix it ... as long as it isn't completely stupid |
| 05:58.40 | drmessano | jblack.. someone posted something about the to: working out to "SIP/DID" instead of "DID" |
| 05:58.48 | russellb | AloSmart: a few things in here, too ... http://svncommunity.digium.com/view/russell/presentations/astricon07/developer-day/ |
| 05:59.08 | russellb | things various developers wrote |
| 05:59.16 | AloSmart | Russell: ok thanks , thats good enough |
| 05:59.22 | jblack | drmessano: Huh.. so they're calling SIP:server/SIP/DID ? |
| 05:59.29 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 05:59.58 | jblack | no, I must be misunderstanding. That would be braindead |
| 06:00.38 | jblack | russellb: Really nifty (I'd like to file a feature request on the bts if it sounds good), is a way to turn on debugging for auth. |
| 06:00.39 | kyron | AloSmart, do something neat, get * running off a PS3, especially since you don't seem to need the FX* hardware :) |
| 06:01.18 | *** join/#asterisk _charly_ (i=kroseneg@sunrise.schmidham.net) |
| 06:01.23 | drmessano | Yes |
| 06:01.23 | kyron | AloSmart, hint, it's ppc based and has 9(±1) cores (1 for OS and 8 for processing :P)... |
| 06:01.27 | jblack | It seems a lot of sip debuging involves guessing exactly how sip auth failed. A hint from * as to "The moron gave me a user I don't recognize, or the realm is senseless, or bad password".... |
| 06:01.39 | drmessano | SIP:server/SIP/DID <--- Someone else seemed to notice that |
| 06:01.42 | russellb | jblack: feature requests without patches just get closed out ... |
| 06:01.52 | russellb | or else we'd get overwhelmed with them |
| 06:02.00 | jblack | Sensible. |
| 06:02.13 | AloSmart | yeh, |
| 06:02.18 | jblack | I could probably write something up |
| 06:02.29 | drmessano | I just upgraded to rc4.. give me a few days before rc5 or release, OK???? |
| 06:02.33 | drmessano | heh |
| 06:02.39 | russellb | drmessano: heh, sorry, we kept fixing big stuff |
| 06:02.49 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:02.52 | russellb | today was good, though ... |
| 06:02.57 | jblack | I'm generally loath to sign away copyright, but it wouldn't be much code. |
| 06:02.57 | drmessano | Well stop.. no one else fixes big stuff |
| 06:03.09 | russellb | if nothing happens over the weekend, i'll probably do 1.4.18 monday evening |
| 06:03.10 | drmessano | Im used to stale and buggy |
| 06:03.16 | AloSmart | russell you work remotly or you have to go the an office ? |
| 06:03.23 | jblack | Oh? |
| 06:03.26 | russellb | AloSmart: i go to an office |
| 06:03.32 | russellb | jblack: you don't have to sign away copyright |
| 06:03.33 | AloSmart | to ... |
| 06:03.38 | russellb | jblack: you keep the copyright to your code |
| 06:03.40 | jblack | russellb: ?!? |
| 06:03.55 | AloSmart | how many people are working with you , in your team |
| 06:03.56 | jblack | Point made. |
| 06:03.58 | russellb | jblack: what you're doing is granting a license to digium to use the code for whatever we want to ... but we don't own the copyright |
| 06:04.18 | jblack | Non-exclusive, non-limited. Gotcha |
| 06:04.20 | russellb | so you can still do whatever you want to with it, too, of course ... |
| 06:04.31 | russellb | AloSmart: about a dozen |
| 06:04.53 | AloSmart | and who decides on new features, or code to be added |
| 06:04.55 | AloSmart | ?> |
| 06:05.06 | russellb | core development team collectively, or me :-p |
| 06:05.14 | AloSmart | ok coool |
| 06:05.28 | AloSmart | now i know someone from the inside ... cheeers |
| 06:05.43 | russellb | i know nothing |
| 06:05.46 | drmessano | ha |
| 06:05.50 | russellb | i just stumbled in here |
| 06:05.57 | AloSmart | hehe |
| 06:06.03 | AloSmart | now we are 2 |
| 06:06.29 | *** join/#asterisk Koshatul (n=evangeli@ppp188-33.static.internode.on.net) |
| 06:06.51 | AloSmart | so what you are here, what brought you to * |
| 06:06.58 | drmessano | I think 1.8 should really focus on Paltalk and Skype integration... make it happen |
| 06:07.00 | jblack | russellb: you have no objections to a "set debug auth" in theory? |
| 06:07.03 | AloSmart | what kind of usage ? |
| 06:07.06 | BBHoss | heh |
| 06:07.18 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:07.19 | BBHoss | drmessano, don't even joke :) |
| 06:07.39 | AloSmart | skype ? can we talk with skype? what kind of protocol ? |
| 06:07.42 | jblack | I'm rather tired of watching machines turn into space heaters just because skype feels the machine has been idle for too long. |
| 06:07.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:07.45 | drmessano | Forget Skype |
| 06:07.47 | AloSmart | do they have an API ? |
| 06:07.50 | drmessano | Just... forget skype |
| 06:08.05 | drmessano | Skype = Hello Kitty VoIP |
| 06:08.19 | jblack | alosmart: It's a proprietary, evil, bleed off your soul protocol. It drives nuns to drugs, and rockstars to god. Just stay away |
| 06:08.20 | WilliamK | meow |
| 06:08.26 | drmessano | Asterisk = Constux, Legos, and GI Joe combined |
| 06:08.33 | drmessano | Asterisk = Construx, Legos, and GI Joe combined |
| 06:08.54 | AloSmart | maybe we should invest some time into decoding their protocol |
| 06:09.03 | AloSmart | and make it OPEN |
| 06:09.11 | russellb | jblack: not in theory, no. Though it could probably just be made regular SIP debug output. you can set debug on a specific peer already, and it would show up with that |
| 06:09.14 | AloSmart | it sounds cool OpenSkype |
| 06:09.16 | russellb | peer or IP |
| 06:09.35 | jblack | Uh-huh. Sure. Go ahead, alosmart. Let me know how that goes. |
| 06:09.42 | drmessano | Will OpenSkype run on OpenWindows ? |
| 06:09.58 | jblack | drmessano: Lindows^wLinspire! |
| 06:10.02 | AloSmart | hehe, windows is sooo open |
| 06:10.03 | jblack | russellb: Ok. |
| 06:10.24 | AloSmart | you can talk with the kernel and do what even you want with it .... |
| 06:10.29 | jblack | Wow AloSmart.. You're "a lot smart"! |
| 06:10.33 | AloSmart | lol |
| 06:10.35 | AloSmart | heheheh |
| 06:10.35 | drmessano | I've been working on a Windows clone for 11 years... I've almost got all the bugs added |
| 06:10.42 | jblack | Do you play tennis, by any chance? |
| 06:10.49 | AloSmart | heheheh |
| 06:10.54 | drmessano | HA |
| 06:11.32 | JT | skype is trash, and supporting it supports a proprietary monopoly |
| 06:11.43 | JT | the best thing to do is actively disuade everyone from using it |
| 06:12.30 | AloSmart | JT maybe you are right, but it is better to be able to talk to everyone anywhere |
| 06:13.03 | JT | errr |
| 06:13.05 | JT | sure it is |
| 06:13.11 | JT | better to make skype more money |
| 06:13.16 | JT | using their close termination network |
| 06:13.19 | JT | ... |
| 06:13.44 | AloSmart | we can compete with them .... |
| 06:13.56 | AloSmart | their prices are not that goood |
| 06:13.58 | JT | not by joining them |
| 06:14.02 | jblack | JT: I don't think he'll get very far... First off, the protocols are heavily patented. second, the streams are heavily encrypted. Third, the binary self-destructs itself if it catches itself being debugged or systraced (I have no idea how it does it). Sure, some super genius with a lot of free time could get past that, but alosmart is merely "a lot smart". |
| 06:14.07 | JT | that validates them |
| 06:14.44 | drmessano | Skype runs on dead kittens :( |
| 06:14.47 | drmessano | Thats enough |
| 06:15.06 | AloSmart | :) yeh i can do that ... couple month of my time .... but it is not worth it ... i have other stuff to do |
| 06:15.29 | JT | sure you can |
| 06:15.30 | jblack | AloSmart: Oh, of course. |
| 06:15.31 | JT | talk it up |
| 06:15.36 | AloSmart | lol |
| 06:15.53 | drmessano | I was working on a full drop-in replacement for asterisk, but I have to go to Wal Mart tomorrow :( |
| 06:16.04 | jblack | Well then, I suppose we should thank you for just honoring our impassioned pleas that you leave skype the fuck alone. =) |
| 06:16.34 | AloSmart | jblack ... forget about skype .... |
| 06:16.34 | AloSmart | lol |
| 06:16.53 | jblack | Forget about what? |
| 06:16.58 | J4k3 | skype gives dead kittens the runs |
| 06:17.04 | AloSmart | let's get back to our beloved growing * |
| 06:17.52 | russellb | * <3 |
| 06:18.04 | drmessano | Skype is the Myspace of VoIP... it's kinda neat, but eventually you're going to run into a 13 yr old |
| 06:19.37 | drmessano | Nobody ever landed on a Dateline NBC segment for using Asterisk |
| 06:19.49 | J4k3 | well |
| 06:19.55 | J4k3 | skype is integrated into myspaceim |
| 06:20.00 | J4k3 | so, yeah, even more so |
| 06:20.00 | drmessano | Yes |
| 06:20.03 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:20.12 | AloSmart | it is the potential that asterisk has .... |
| 06:20.31 | AloSmart | wait until i get into the code :) |
| 06:20.50 | J4k3 | asterisk is a 5ess, skype is a $9 princess phone. |
| 06:20.51 | AloSmart | you will be seeing real wild applications |
| 06:20.56 | jblack | I guess it's getting cold in here |
| 06:23.48 | drmessano | Hey AloSmart, what sort of apps do you have in mind? |
| 06:24.26 | AloSmart | there are many, but the top 3 are |
| 06:24.26 | *** part/#asterisk toddejohnson (n=toddejoh@69.220.214.65) |
| 06:24.49 | AloSmart | smart house control system ( since i am an electronic eng) |
| 06:25.05 | AloSmart | heat, sound , light , garden .... |
| 06:25.26 | AloSmart | car interface ( with wifi ) |
| 06:25.38 | AloSmart | sicne now you can internet from your mobile provider |
| 06:25.46 | drmessano | I see |
| 06:25.48 | drmessano | What else? |
| 06:25.49 | AloSmart | can have internet |
| 06:26.01 | AloSmart | asterisk in the car ... |
| 06:26.15 | jblack | That's BRILLIANT! |
| 06:26.22 | AloSmart | basicly all kind of information , start ... |
| 06:26.32 | drmessano | Whats the third? |
| 06:26.36 | AloSmart | you can start your car in the morning by dialing an extention with a code ... |
| 06:26.40 | jblack | The cost savings of a cell phone combined with the portability of a.. of a.. unix server! |
| 06:26.48 | AloSmart | exactly |
| 06:26.55 | jblack | Now that's thinking outself the box |
| 06:27.11 | AloSmart | you can add GPS to that ... and where ever you go , you have voip , you can track fleets , cards ... |
| 06:27.24 | russellb | can it make me breakfast? |
| 06:27.25 | AloSmart | and you can always get all the info by just dialing a number ... |
| 06:27.39 | AloSmart | of course ... call you GF or mom |
| 06:27.39 | drmessano | So whats the third one? |
| 06:27.40 | AloSmart | hehehe |
| 06:28.06 | russellb | i have an idea ... we should write an open source phone system |
| 06:28.14 | russellb | that would rock |
| 06:28.19 | jblack | drmessano: Did I get my bash.org for the day? |
| 06:28.56 | drmessano | Yes |
| 06:29.13 | russellb | jblack: i was impressed |
| 06:29.18 | drmessano | russellb, can I write code too? |
| 06:29.29 | russellb | drmessano: if you want, sure |
| 06:30.03 | jblack | I want to write an app_morsecode for *. |
| 06:30.05 | AloSmart | 3rd, interface GSM/ VOIP hotspot kind of thing , but not wifi |
| 06:30.05 | russellb | if you could remove all the whitespace, that would be nice |
| 06:30.11 | russellb | jblack: it's in 1.6 |
| 06:30.14 | russellb | seriously .. |
| 06:30.22 | drmessano | yep it is :) |
| 06:30.28 | jblack | I was being sarcastic. |
| 06:30.34 | russellb | oh. owned. |
| 06:30.47 | jblack | Somebody actually came up with a use case for that? |
| 06:31.03 | russellb | i don't know, but tilghman wrote it :) |
| 06:31.35 | drmessano | russellb, I was thinking an app so asterisk will auto dial into AOL and use that as a backup for my IAX trunks in case my DSL goes down |
| 06:31.36 | jblack | What? "Imagine I'm choking to death. I can't speak, but need to tell them I need an ambulance... So, in my last moment, I dial 911, use the dtmf pad to punch out some morse code to festival 'I'm choking to death' ?!? |
| 06:31.38 | russellb | "for fun" is generally considered an acceptable use case |
| 06:31.40 | drmessano | I will submit it tomorrow |
| 06:32.09 | AloSmart | lol |
| 06:32.12 | russellb | drmessano: you know, that's the feature that everyone keeps asking me about |
| 06:32.23 | russellb | if we had that, we would have 10 billion more users |
| 06:32.24 | drmessano | :D yay |
| 06:32.40 | jblack | "Welcome! You've got phone service!" |
| 06:32.46 | drmessano | HA |
| 06:33.12 | JT | heh |
| 06:33.19 | AloSmart | we should be able to send 010111011000111001011100101010001110100 0101001010100101001010100110 form the keypad ... |
| 06:33.21 | JT | emergency services here have an emergency sms number |
| 06:33.22 | russellb | all i got was a busy signal :( |
| 06:33.24 | drmessano | oh, and it too integrates with a GPS and tells you where the asterisk box is located |
| 06:33.29 | AloSmart | that makes hte sounds of "help" |
| 06:33.31 | drmessano | In case you get lose in the NOC |
| 06:33.34 | drmessano | In case you get lost in the NOC |
| 06:33.39 | jblack | AloSmart: There's your first project. |
| 06:33.44 | JT | gps doesn't work in a NOC |
| 06:33.51 | drmessano | Sure it does |
| 06:33.52 | Corydon76-dig | Someone asked the question (jokingly) on the list, and I turned around and wrote it |
| 06:33.56 | drmessano | Get a H model |
| 06:34.01 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: he appears! |
| 06:34.05 | JT | h model? |
| 06:34.11 | jblack | It does in the desert island NOC with the guy in the hawaiian shirt and the monkey that drops laptops in the sand! |
| 06:34.11 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: 2600 meeting tonight |
| 06:34.12 | drmessano | You can bury them in concrete |
| 06:34.16 | russellb | Corydon76-dig: sweet |
| 06:34.31 | drmessano | The high senstivity GPS chips in the new boxes coming out |
| 06:34.33 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: special agents from the FBI's cybercrime unit presented |
| 06:34.37 | JT | sure sure |
| 06:34.38 | russellb | neat! |
| 06:34.41 | JT | high sensitivity |
| 06:34.43 | jblack | (for those that don't condescend to watch tv, I'm referring to a crappy CDW commercial) |
| 06:34.46 | drmessano | Yes |
| 06:34.50 | Corydon76-dig | Yes, very neat |
| 06:34.53 | JT | unlimited rsistance to reflective effects of stuctures |
| 06:34.56 | JT | magic |
| 06:35.04 | drmessano | Have you used one? |
| 06:35.19 | J4k3 | rf magic |
| 06:35.41 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: btw, you can modify both the speed and the pitch of the MorseCode, with dialplan variables |
| 06:35.43 | drmessano | They're at least twice as sensitive as any GPS I have ever used |
| 06:35.46 | JT | does it matter? good datacentres have a lot of concrete |
| 06:35.47 | drmessano | Even the cheap H models |
| 06:35.51 | JT | or rfi shielding |
| 06:35.53 | J4k3 | twice as sensitive is merely 3 dB |
| 06:35.57 | JT | wow, twice nothing |
| 06:36.10 | drmessano | Have you used one? |
| 06:36.12 | *** join/#asterisk kaushal (n=chatzill@59.96.104.173) |
| 06:36.14 | jblack | Corydon76-dig: He must be a ham. |
| 06:36.15 | J4k3 | and in multipath situations, especially with 'too good' of RX, GPS starts jittering madly |
| 06:36.17 | JT | no, it doesn't matter |
| 06:36.18 | drmessano | If not, then STFU.. |
| 06:36.19 | kaushal | hi |
| 06:36.23 | JT | why would i stfu |
| 06:36.25 | JT | use logic |
| 06:36.26 | J4k3 | you're sitting in kansas, your GPS position says utah |
| 06:36.28 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: I am, in fact, a ham |
| 06:36.29 | kaushal | I am a newbie to asterisk |
| 06:36.30 | JT | might work in a small structure |
| 06:36.36 | J4k3 | then chicago |
| 06:36.37 | JT | not in a well shielded one |
| 06:36.40 | JT | laws of physics |
| 06:36.42 | kaushal | whats the bestway to start |
| 06:36.53 | AloSmart | GPS, an in embeded system in car ... |
| 06:37.05 | jblack | Corydon76-dig: You're tilghman? |
| 06:37.12 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: I am |
| 06:37.14 | russellb | he is! |
| 06:37.19 | J4k3 | you are! |
| 06:37.26 | russellb | he scares me. |
| 06:37.30 | russellb | (not really) |
| 06:37.32 | drmessano | Well shielded? |
| 06:37.35 | drmessano | Riight |
| 06:37.44 | drmessano | 12 inches of lead maybe |
| 06:37.47 | JT | do you know how gps works? |
| 06:37.51 | JT | err gps signals are very weak |
| 06:37.52 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: just for very brief periods |
| 06:37.57 | drmessano | I know a lot more about RF that you likely do |
| 06:37.59 | JT | metal is good at stoping 1.5GHz |
| 06:38.00 | russellb | ha, nah |
| 06:38.04 | drmessano | heh |
| 06:38.04 | drmessano | ok |
| 06:38.05 | AloSmart | nice talking to you guys, i will get back to you after i become more familiar with the code |
| 06:38.06 | JT | unlikely |
| 06:38.07 | drmessano | yes |
| 06:38.17 | russellb | AloSmart: cya |
| 06:38.18 | AloSmart | and hopefully i can be helpfull |
| 06:38.20 | jblack | JT: Um, for reasons of national security, I can't tell you why, but back off this one. |
| 06:38.23 | AloSmart | cya , bye |
| 06:38.26 | drmessano | I've also used dozens of units.. including the newer ones |
| 06:38.26 | JT | with your magic gpses that defy the laws of physics |
| 06:38.30 | drmessano | In really adverse conditions |
| 06:38.31 | JT | jblack: whose national security |
| 06:38.33 | kaushal | :( :( :( |
| 06:38.35 | *** join/#asterisk erojasv (n=erojasv@190.42.81.94) |
| 06:38.35 | JT | jblack: i dont care |
| 06:38.46 | drmessano | See, youre being an armchair expert.. ive actually used them in the field |
| 06:39.04 | JT | cool, and they work in faraday cages, how? |
| 06:39.06 | jblack | JT: I care, because I'm in the nation that will be convinced that I need to be secured. |
| 06:39.19 | JT | unless they are assisted by accelerometers |
| 06:39.23 | J4k3 | I'm secured |
| 06:39.32 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: if you think MorseCode is cool, you should take a look at func_odbc and cdr_adaptive_odbc |
| 06:39.35 | JT | chances of picking up a weak satellite signal in a farday cage == slim |
| 06:39.39 | drmessano | Well, I actually have a faraday cage at work, and I can get a signal in there, where I didnt before.. |
| 06:39.50 | kaushal | russellb: hi |
| 06:39.54 | JT | it must be a shit cage :) |
| 06:40.02 | J4k3 | no shit |
| 06:40.04 | jblack | Corydon76-dig: Sorry. The only morse code I ever did was on my submariner entrance test. I did well on that, but later got tossed for sleepwalking. |
| 06:40.12 | drmessano | Yeah, I guess so.. Thats the only reason it could have worked |
| 06:40.17 | J4k3 | the signal level for GPS inside my house, at best, is -154 dBm |
| 06:40.21 | drmessano | You're right, dude |
| 06:40.27 | JT | seriously |
| 06:40.33 | Corydon76-dig | russellb: btw, MorseCode is also in 1.4 |
| 06:40.37 | russellb | it is? |
| 06:40.43 | Corydon76-dig | Yep |
| 06:40.44 | russellb | feels like it hasn't been there that long |
| 06:40.45 | J4k3 | and yeah, your cage sucks if your cellphone can work in it, much less a gps |
| 06:40.51 | JT | the level of sensitivity you're proposing would need components consantly chilled for stability |
| 06:40.56 | J4k3 | I bet you actually have a GSM-verifying GPS |
| 06:41.04 | drmessano | LOL |
| 06:41.08 | drmessano | No, I have a real GPS |
| 06:41.20 | drmessano | Quite a few actually |
| 06:41.27 | jblack | Nobody in this room without a secret clearance has a _real_ GPS |
| 06:41.28 | JT | drmessano: what's the model number of this super gps? |
| 06:41.32 | J4k3 | I've seen some modules that will use GSM signals to verify itself, or continue to work during adverse GPS moments. |
| 06:41.41 | JT | civilians don't have access to L2 GPS |
| 06:41.45 | JT | consumers only get L1 |
| 06:41.52 | drmessano | and I can get a decent signal in my house with a cheap last generation model, so I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 06:41.59 | JT | J4k3: like a style of DGPS? |
| 06:42.04 | Corydon76-dig | JT: there is no difference anymore |
| 06:42.09 | J4k3 | JT: yeah, lemmie find it |
| 06:42.11 | JT | Corydon76-dig: not so |
| 06:42.20 | Corydon76-dig | It's the same accuracy |
| 06:42.38 | JT | there's actually different frequencies for L2 with encryption |
| 06:42.40 | Corydon76-dig | Well, okay, technically, they could drop back the accuracy for L1 |
| 06:42.54 | JT | L1 is about 1m accuracy, give or take |
| 06:42.57 | jblack | Corydon76-dig: You kidding? |
| 06:43.11 | J4k3 | JT: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7917 |
| 06:43.11 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: about? |
| 06:43.17 | JT | L2 is higher than that, and yes they could turn on Selective Availability on L1 |
| 06:43.22 | J4k3 | JT: I did more reading on that unit... its gps capability is pretty nice |
| 06:43.42 | jblack | Never mind. |
| 06:43.56 | jblack | Sure. Civilian GPS's are just as good as milspec ones. |
| 06:44.17 | JT | they aren't |
| 06:44.25 | JT | they're not that far now though |
| 06:44.27 | J4k3 | I don't generally buy from the lowest bidder |
| 06:44.31 | J4k3 | but the US military sure as hell does. |
| 06:44.35 | jblack | You're welcome to fight with him. I legally can't. |
| 06:44.44 | JT | sure |
| 06:45.24 | JT | J4k3: i was curious what drmessano was using too |
| 06:45.40 | JT | but yeah you can get gsm dgps in some areas |
| 06:45.44 | J4k3 | JT: a really bad cage? :D |
| 06:45.57 | JT | carrier phase gps is much more accurate than even dgps |
| 06:46.04 | J4k3 | I mean, if its not at least -30 dB @ 1.5ghz, its a total joke |
| 06:46.25 | J4k3 | well, how accurate do you need? |
| 06:46.40 | JT | J4k3: it's aright, as long as you keep the liquid helium resovoir topped up |
| 06:46.46 | J4k3 | its not legally admissable for surveying, so... ;) |
| 06:46.50 | JT | J4k3: carrier phase is about 0.2cm accuracy |
| 06:47.00 | JT | people use it to align machinery or buildings |
| 06:47.22 | J4k3 | JT: is that the stuff the siesmegraphic folks are using? |
| 06:47.28 | JT | most likely |
| 06:47.34 | JT | i think the units start at $30k |
| 06:47.34 | drmessano | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sensitivity_GPS |
| 06:47.39 | jblack | and anyone that likes to drop missiles on top of anyone's head. |
| 06:47.40 | J4k3 | they put up a ~100' crankup tower, 3 antennas, lots of little boxes with antennas all around the area |
| 06:47.43 | drmessano | Maybe you should read a little, theres a start |
| 06:47.45 | *** join/#asterisk mattzerah (n=matt@121.50.220.20) |
| 06:47.46 | J4k3 | apparently, from their licenses, it runs at 200 mhz |
| 06:48.15 | drmessano | Garmin has a whole line now.. and unlike you, i've actually used them |
| 06:48.25 | drmessano | Not just theorized about them on paper |
| 06:49.05 | JT | apparently you should read too |
| 06:49.07 | J4k3 | drmessano: I'd seriously doubt its stability under hard multipath situations |
| 06:49.09 | JT | and stop being such a tool |
| 06:49.10 | JT | High Sensitivity GPS can provide positioning in many but not all indoor locations. Signals are either heavily attenuated by the building materials or reflected in as multipath. |
| 06:49.19 | JT | Given that High Sensitivity GPS receivers may be up to 30 dB more sensitive this is sufficient to track through 3 layers of dry bricks or up to 20 cm of steel reinforced concrete for example. |
| 06:49.31 | JT | 30dB extra will not get thru a good faraday cage |
| 06:49.32 | J4k3 | considering I've had a -159 capable GPS decide it was 7000' AGL and 10 miles northeast due to there being a thundercloud.... |
| 06:49.33 | drmessano | Many isn't good enough? |
| 06:49.42 | J4k3 | while it was sitting on the dash of my hyundai |
| 06:49.47 | drmessano | You're being the tool |
| 06:50.09 | JT | hardly, you're saying this gps works in a proper faraday cage, or rf sealed room |
| 06:50.13 | JT | that's insane |
| 06:50.14 | drmessano | Again.. have you used any of the new generation units? |
| 06:50.26 | JT | the attenation would be more than 30dB over outdoors |
| 06:50.30 | drmessano | Ok, so no |
| 06:50.34 | *** join/#asterisk andrewn (n=andrew@76.191.151.229) |
| 06:50.42 | JT | yeah, so you're used it, you've got the big dick |
| 06:50.45 | JT | who gives a crap |
| 06:50.46 | J4k3 | drmessano: I know about how RF works. |
| 06:50.50 | JT | it works under 1km of water too |
| 06:50.53 | JT | i'm sure |
| 06:50.54 | drmessano | I do too.. I do it for a living |
| 06:50.57 | drmessano | Thanks |
| 06:51.01 | JT | i dont doubt it's better |
| 06:51.38 | J4k3 | and heres a question... if we can make -190 dBW GPSes, why can't we get -130 dBm cellphones? |
| 06:51.45 | JT | you still have multipath effects to deal with |
| 06:52.16 | J4k3 | well, if they're talking about just getting the timing click every second at -190 dBW, that'd make sense. |
| 06:52.22 | drmessano | Cellphones could stand to be less sensitive |
| 06:52.39 | J4k3 | actually, -190 dBW is -160 dBm... thats not exceptionally great RX |
| 06:53.05 | J4k3 | my $30-about-2-years-ago USB GPS is within a couple db of that |
| 06:53.14 | JT | 3 layers of dry bricks, or 2cm of reinforced concrete is not the same as say the datacentre i'm in |
| 06:53.20 | J4k3 | now, the antenna on it is a total joke... I could increase its performance 6-8 dB with a good antenna |
| 06:53.28 | JT | under about 4 stories of 50cm reinforced concrete |
| 06:53.55 | J4k3 | drmessano: in cities, maybe. |
| 06:54.36 | JT | s/2cm/20cm/ |
| 06:55.22 | JT | and layers of thousands of metal racks and servers and cable trays in every floor above it |
| 06:55.40 | J4k3 | what signal you did eventually get would bounce off everything above it |
| 06:55.44 | J4k3 | at odd angles |
| 06:56.36 | JT | i am still curious what a particularly good model of this high sensitivity gps is |
| 06:56.51 | drmessano | I told you three times |
| 06:57.00 | drmessano | Now you're just trolling |
| 06:57.47 | J4k3 | sirfstar III is the chipset |
| 06:57.48 | drmessano | Nobody said it would work 4 stories underground, in this scenario you keep painting more and more of a picture of.. |
| 06:57.56 | J4k3 | nothing amazing in its spec sheet |
| 06:58.06 | J4k3 | I'm guessing garmin just knows how to make an antenna that isn't craptacular |
| 06:58.14 | drmessano | They are FAR more sensitive.. work in places i've never imagined a GPS would work |
| 06:58.23 | JT | you were saying it would need a few inches of lead to block it before |
| 06:58.27 | JT | are you not saying that now? |
| 06:58.36 | drmessano | I've used a lot of high end models, and even a LOW end nigh sensitivity model is far better |
| 06:58.47 | J4k3 | and the new sirf chip works well enough with the larger antenna that it doesn't constantly decide you're floating in clouds |
| 06:58.52 | JT | i'm not disagreeing that it's superior to normal gps, i just disagree that it makes miracles |
| 06:58.54 | drmessano | Im not backing down from anything I said |
| 06:58.59 | drmessano | Im just sick of reiterating |
| 06:59.02 | drmessano | Youve not used one |
| 06:59.06 | J4k3 | but, the problem I see is, the sirfstar3 is what my gps uses, my $30ish-2-years-ago-off-geeks.com gps. |
| 06:59.07 | drmessano | Im wasting time |
| 06:59.56 | drmessano | The etrex H uses an _MTK_ chipset |
| 07:00.11 | drmessano | Again |
| 07:00.13 | drmessano | More trolling |
| 07:00.15 | J4k3 | "whats allowed to be in the LOS?" "styrofoam |
| 07:00.16 | J4k3 | " |
| 07:00.40 | JT | so is the etrex H a pretty sensitive model? |
| 07:00.50 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:00.51 | drmessano | No, man |
| 07:00.54 | drmessano | Its horrible |
| 07:01.11 | drmessano | It wont work 4 stories underground with no batteries |
| 07:01.15 | drmessano | :( |
| 07:01.23 | J4k3 | http://www.sanav.com/gps_engine_board/MTK-18.htm |
| 07:01.23 | drmessano | Yawn |
| 07:01.38 | J4k3 | -158 dBm... not that impressive really |
| 07:01.43 | JT | well, 12 inches of lead is what you said, i'd be very imprssed :) |
| 07:01.50 | J4k3 | its in the antenna, not the chipset, I'm pretty certain |
| 07:02.36 | drmessano | Ahh yes |
| 07:02.51 | drmessano | I said you need a minimum of 12 inches of lead to be considered well shielded |
| 07:02.54 | drmessano | Ok |
| 07:03.00 | drmessano | You're reaching |
| 07:03.07 | drmessano | You've still not used one |
| 07:03.13 | JT | it was in the context of conversation |
| 07:03.23 | JT | so how much lead do you need to stop this gps receiver? |
| 07:03.36 | JT | you can keep repeating the same thing over again, won't change the laws of physics |
| 07:03.57 | drmessano | You have to be an engineer |
| 07:04.03 | scooby2 | WARNING[3326] acl.c: Unable to lookup '' |
| 07:04.05 | JT | i want to use one |
| 07:04.06 | jblack | It's a war of escalation, until you hit heisenberg. |
| 07:04.08 | scooby2 | anything to be worried about? |
| 07:04.17 | drmessano | Only real engineers are completely ignorant of field experience :) |
| 07:04.24 | JT | hence why it's unhelpful when you just say "umm, garmin make gpses" |
| 07:04.25 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:04.42 | JT | whatever, elitist attitudes help no-one |
| 07:04.52 | drmessano | Really? Irony? |
| 07:05.17 | jblack | Fights on the internet are like the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded. =) |
| 07:05.22 | drmessano | This stopped being a discussion almost from the time it started :) |
| 07:05.31 | JT | irony? what's ironic about you constantly repeating "you haven't used one" |
| 07:05.46 | JT | like you have some trophy gps that no-one else will ever be able to get |
| 07:06.28 | drmessano | No, you're telling me what it wil and wont do |
| 07:06.34 | drmessano | You've not even used one |
| 07:06.37 | drmessano | No basis in fact |
| 07:06.40 | drmessano | Just theory |
| 07:07.08 | JT | well you ended up agreeing that it would not operate under 4 stories of concrete |
| 07:07.21 | drmessano | Yeah, yoy got me there |
| 07:07.23 | drmessano | you* |
| 07:07.39 | drmessano | I bet it wont work in cheyenne mountain either |
| 07:07.46 | drmessano | or 20,000 feet underwater |
| 07:07.47 | JT | you don't need to do everything in practice to get a rough idea of what may or may not work |
| 07:07.55 | drmessano | Hmm.. middle of a volcano |
| 07:08.13 | jblack | Listen to my phrasing very carefully. |
| 07:08.21 | *** join/#asterisk adjohn (n=adjohn@p1155-ipad91marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 07:08.45 | JT | drmessano: so your recommendation is the etrex h? |
| 07:08.46 | jblack | If there were GPSs that were sensitive enough to go your typical mountain cave, nobody could tell you about it. |
| 07:09.10 | drmessano | For $90 the Etrex H is a great unit.. |
| 07:09.30 | JT | ok |
| 07:09.38 | J4k3 | jblack: and there are, and they don't run off 1.5 ghz satellite. |
| 07:09.42 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 07:09.46 | drmessano | Better than anything else that i've used before it.. even the high end last generation models.. |
| 07:10.21 | *** join/#asterisk kaushal (n=chatzill@59.96.104.173) |
| 07:10.26 | kaushal | hi |
| 07:10.38 | drmessano | I've used it indoors, and in deep, wet canopy in the middle of nowhere, and it's been solid.. places I would turn another GPS off and use a compass |
| 07:10.48 | kaushal | I am new to asterisk and whats the best way to learn and implement astersik |
| 07:10.57 | kaushal | asterisk* |
| 07:10.59 | drmessano | Friend and I did a lot of testing of the units.. They're insane |
| 07:11.48 | jblack | kaushal: Traditionally, in this channel? You start by making a sensible sounding statement that is diametrically opposite another sensible sounding statement, then fight about it as if you don't have a girlfriend waiting for you in the next room over. |
| 07:11.57 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 07:12.05 | jblack | kaushal: Do that for... oh... 18 hours at a time, then you're ready to make a dialplan |
| 07:12.12 | drmessano | No no |
| 07:12.21 | drmessano | "I just installed Asterisk, now what?" |
| 07:12.52 | jblack | Can we get jbot to do an automatic ~book on that? |
| 07:13.02 | jblack | I swear we could regex 90% of those. |
| 07:13.06 | drmessano | Oh |
| 07:13.09 | drmessano | jblack |
| 07:13.10 | BBHoss | heh |
| 07:13.18 | drmessano | Guess what I tested today? lol |
| 07:13.19 | jblack | drmessano: Sir? |
| 07:13.28 | jblack | drmessano: An HIV cure? |
| 07:14.02 | jblack | The pitch difference in the human voice from inhaling hydrogen vs. inhaling helium? |
| 07:14.07 | drmessano | PAP2 over HughesNet 1.5/250k mobile satellite service |
| 07:14.15 | jblack | damn. Wasn't even close. |
| 07:14.19 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:14.26 | BBHoss | how was it |
| 07:14.30 | drmessano | LOL |
| 07:14.33 | drmessano | Well, to be honest |
| 07:14.36 | drmessano | Its come a long way |
| 07:14.41 | J4k3 | heh |
| 07:14.43 | BBHoss | thats what i'd heard |
| 07:14.45 | drmessano | Better units |
| 07:14.47 | jblack | Did you have to set a high jitter buffer? |
| 07:14.58 | jblack | and muck with your mtu/mru, and etc etc ? |
| 07:15.14 | drmessano | the downlink side worked great.. 2 seconds of latency from the LL phone we tested |
| 07:15.20 | drmessano | The uplink was HORRID |
| 07:15.20 | J4k3 | drmessano: yeah, but hughes, assuming you don't have an agreement that allows such, will shut your ass off quickly for doing it. |
| 07:15.28 | drmessano | But still, 250k |
| 07:15.56 | jblack | what got you on the uplink? supra-human latency? |
| 07:16.32 | J4k3 | and satellite has improved as most power users have been able to move onto more appropriate access types. |
| 07:16.35 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 07:16.37 | drmessano | High level of jitter.. basically unusable |
| 07:16.43 | jameswf-home | I posted trixbox 2.6 screen shots if you look close at the pic you will see a pbx in a flash tab open.... |
| 07:16.48 | jblack | So I owe whathisname an apology. |
| 07:16.48 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:17.05 | jameswf-home | http://picasaweb.google.com/jfinstrom/Trixbox26Screenshots/ |
| 07:17.10 | drmessano | Well, we have a specfic need for the Hughesnet |
| 07:17.32 | J4k3 | you probably can't do much better than iparty with hughesnet |
| 07:17.33 | J4k3 | effectively. |
| 07:17.34 | jblack | heh. drmessano has to fit out the spruce goose, and Hughes has a real NIH problem. ;) |
| 07:17.35 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 07:17.42 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:17.50 | jameswf-home | oh and added their disclaimer that pops when you turn off the audit tool |
| 07:18.16 | drmessano | We've been toying with adding EVDO to the truck, but not sure how useful it will be |
| 07:18.31 | J4k3 | g729 works fine over evdo |
| 07:18.42 | J4k3 | until your provider gets pissy (vzw will, I doubt anyone else cares) |
| 07:18.44 | drmessano | EVDO may not be where this truck is going ;) |
| 07:18.50 | JT | ilbc sounds the most promising for horrible connectivity |
| 07:18.58 | J4k3 | well, 1xRTT is pretty well everpresent, but its upload side sucks too bad for voice |
| 07:19.38 | jblack | holy wow. |
| 07:19.41 | J4k3 | in north america, with a good antenna and a decent modern CDMA chipset, you can pretty much always dig up something |
| 07:19.52 | drmessano | This truck is a first-in response vehicle for disasters.. |
| 07:20.01 | drmessano | Katrina type stuff |
| 07:20.02 | jblack | I was looking up brown urine (because I'm watching house).. and one can get all sorts of color urine. |
| 07:20.12 | jblack | Clear, Yellow, Dark Yellow, Brown.... |
| 07:20.20 | jblack | But also... Red, Green and _blue_ |
| 07:20.30 | J4k3 | drmessano: in those situations what you need is a support aircraft |
| 07:20.36 | J4k3 | to do radio relay work |
| 07:20.37 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:20.37 | JT | i'm sure you can get purple or pink if you inject colouring into your bladder |
| 07:20.40 | J4k3 | basically a ghetto AWACS |
| 07:20.42 | jblack | Raise your hand if you woudn't panic if you pissed blue or green? |
| 07:20.51 | jameswf-home | drmessano: where are you |
| 07:20.56 | drmessano | Georgia |
| 07:21.11 | J4k3 | drmessano: you think I'm joking. |
| 07:21.38 | J4k3 | drmessano: I'm passively trying to get ubnt.com to build a 70cm ATV atheros 802.11 radio. |
| 07:21.40 | drmessano | I dont think you're joking.. but I don't think an aircraft is in the 5 year plan heh |
| 07:21.47 | J4k3 | their 900 mhz downconverter radio works great |
| 07:22.01 | J4k3 | drmessano: bah, a cessna 172 is cheap |
| 07:22.04 | jameswf-home | ah I had the california Coast guard ERT call me they are putting our stuff in their ERT trailer they are riping out their cisco crap to provid remote infrastructure.... they use uridium |
| 07:22.22 | J4k3 | just need a good GPS-friendly autopilot and a custom interior |
| 07:22.27 | J4k3 | to hold all the required gear |
| 07:22.46 | JT | and air to air refuelling |
| 07:22.57 | J4k3 | iridium is nice but, from what I hear, theres only one ground station per continent... that sounds fragile. |
| 07:23.14 | drmessano | I'm not far from ripping out the phone system in the truck and installing Asterisk.. all the radio gear uses SIP now anyway |
| 07:23.17 | JT | a bit of a risk, but the satellites talk directly between each other |
| 07:24.02 | jblack | aw crap. now I think I have liver disease. |
| 07:24.04 | jblack | Damn you House |
| 07:24.08 | drmessano | HA |
| 07:24.20 | jameswf-home | The mil. loves asterisk... you would think its too low budget |
| 07:24.35 | JT | when they were originally designing iridium, they wanted to use line of sight laser to link the sats |
| 07:24.41 | JT | can't imagine why that was scrapped |
| 07:24.54 | jameswf-home | clouds? |
| 07:25.01 | JT | no clouds |
| 07:25.06 | drmessano | sat <> sat |
| 07:25.09 | JT | but their orbits would need to be so precise |
| 07:25.11 | JT | and not decay |
| 07:25.22 | J4k3 | >60 ghz is pretty damned quiet in space. |
| 07:25.29 | J4k3 | considering the atmosphere sucks it up like water |
| 07:25.30 | jameswf-home | oh I thought you were talking from the surface |
| 07:25.32 | J4k3 | well 60-80 ghz |
| 07:25.52 | drmessano | I wonder what the resonant frequency of chinese space-junk is |
| 07:26.06 | jblack | The sun doesn't radiate at that freq? |
| 07:26.18 | drmessano | Probably 7.99GHZ.. the price of the peking duck on the lunch menu |
| 07:26.20 | J4k3 | drmessano: how fast does an astronaut's butt pucker when they hit a chunk of it? |
| 07:26.45 | J4k3 | jblack: not a whoooole lot |
| 07:26.52 | JT | they wouldn't want to hit any real junk |
| 07:27.06 | J4k3 | sheeit, the space shuttle carries junk in the trunk |
| 07:27.13 | JT | a grain of sand in space can put a crack in the space shuttle's windscreen |
| 07:27.28 | drmessano | Its funny that Columbia blew up over a few missing tiles.. I had a similar incident in the bathroom of my old house one morning |
| 07:27.28 | JT | when it's travelling at a few kilometres per second |
| 07:27.42 | jblack | and a small chunk of ice can tear a hole in the wing... |
| 07:27.51 | jameswf-home | if a tree falls in space and no ones around does it fall |
| 07:27.56 | jblack | Probably leaving people screaming all the way until they squash like bugs at splashdown. |
| 07:28.19 | jblack | or was taht challenger... |
| 07:28.31 | drmessano | Challenger was an O ring |
| 07:28.33 | J4k3 | two words: ejection seats |
| 07:29.04 | drmessano | and I quote from the manual of a Maglite 2 D cell flashlight "Lubricate O rings twice a year" |
| 07:29.12 | drmessano | If only the shuttle was built as well :( |
| 07:29.27 | J4k3 | the space shuttle is kinda like a yugo gv |
| 07:29.40 | J4k3 | its old, crappy, and blows up every 75 times its driven. |
| 07:29.44 | jblack | Yeah, it looks like the sun really drops off at 10 centimeters. |
| 07:29.45 | drmessano | LOL |
| 07:29.52 | JT | i don't like the term shuttle, sounds too compact and efficient |
| 07:29.57 | JT | more like the space road train |
| 07:30.00 | JT | or something |
| 07:30.03 | J4k3 | Space Tank |
| 07:30.10 | drmessano | Need Another Seven Astronauts |
| 07:30.12 | J4k3 | Space DeSoto |
| 07:30.20 | jblack | Space Gremlin |
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| 07:30.25 | J4k3 | Space Pacer |
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| 07:30.31 | drmessano | 79 NASA Pinto |
| 07:30.38 | J4k3 | oh snaps |
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| 07:31.27 | drmessano | Until they ripped out the old computers in the shuttle, it had the processing power of a Commodore 64 |
| 07:31.38 | jblack | Oh, on the Shuttle-is-a-deathtrap front.. The last couple times that the shuttle flew, the engineers tried to ground it. The administration overrulled them. |
| 07:31.40 | drmessano | Mine never flew that far |
| 07:31.41 | J4k3 | now they have windows 3.1 |
| 07:31.45 | drmessano | LOL |
| 07:31.53 | neonerz | anyone willing to help me with a meetme v3 problem? |
| 07:32.02 | neonerz | i'm going crazy |
| 07:32.06 | drmessano | The russians had it together.. Look at Mir |
| 07:32.09 | drmessano | That thing.. |
| 07:32.21 | J4k3 | russians are kinda neat |
| 07:32.21 | drmessano | Two words: Duct tape |
| 07:32.34 | J4k3 | their space program is done on the "Get 'er done" mentality |
| 07:32.57 | drmessano | I exchanged messages with one of the cosmonauts on Mir over their Packet mailbox |
| 07:33.12 | drmessano | Good times |
| 07:33.18 | J4k3 | my girlfriend says "pintos are pretty sturdy" to the pinto comment above |
| 07:33.24 | neonerz | guess not :( |
| 07:33.28 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:33.30 | JT | sturdy, just missing o rings |
| 07:33.31 | J4k3 | and I said... 'yeah, sturdy enough to trap you inside while you burn to death' |
| 07:33.41 | drmessano | I heard Pintos have strong backseats |
| 07:33.45 | drmessano | Maybe thats the connection? |
| 07:33.59 | JT | sturdy, as sturdy as say flying a house in space |
| 07:34.10 | J4k3 | wright flyer |
| 07:34.24 | J4k3 | the difference between nasa and the wright brothers is |
| 07:34.45 | J4k3 | the wright brothers didn't decide the wright flyer was the defacto standard for all air flight and make the same mistakes over and over and over. |
| 07:35.17 | drmessano | Yugos were the safest.. If you ever got into a wreck with one, and then engine was pushed into your lap.. instead of gasping for air, you can grab the spare tire that sat on top of the air filter assembly and let some air out of the valve |
| 07:35.39 | J4k3 | drmessano: subarus are the same way |
| 07:35.51 | J4k3 | with their funky engines |
| 07:35.57 | drmessano | Always worked as a spare internal bumper |
| 07:36.03 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:36.18 | drmessano | $3995 in 1986 dollars |
| 07:36.33 | drmessano | $4015 in 2008 dollars |
| 07:37.18 | J4k3 | I doubt anyone paid anywhere near $4k for a yugo in '86 |
| 07:37.36 | drmessano | The sticker price was $3995 |
| 07:37.38 | J4k3 | well, my grandfather got a hyundai excel in 88, he paid like $5800 for it |
| 07:37.50 | J4k3 | and bitched how much more it was than a yugo... but yugos were history by then |
| 07:37.59 | drmessano | I have a JPG somewhere of a magazine ad for them |
| 07:38.29 | J4k3 | I dunno... the true benchmark of junk is the old vw bug... and its still some of the best junk ever built. |
| 07:38.31 | drmessano | Some guy I went to high school with had a Yugo GT |
| 07:38.51 | drmessano | They stopped making the old bugs in 1998 I think |
| 07:38.54 | drmessano | or 1999 |
| 07:39.14 | J4k3 | 04 I think |
| 07:39.17 | J4k3 | they kept making them in mexico |
| 07:39.23 | drmessano | Was it that much later? |
| 07:39.25 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 07:39.39 | drmessano | I know they were making them in Mexico.. thought it was longer than that |
| 07:39.57 | drmessano | Id love to get a newer one |
| 07:40.01 | mattzerah | hi guys - does anyone know anything about dialparties.agi ?? |
| 07:40.17 | mattzerah | i think its a freepbx thing but i'm not 100% sure |
| 07:40.24 | JT | it sure is |
| 07:40.47 | J4k3 | Unfortunately on July 30, 2003, the last Type 1 rolled off the production line in Puebla, Puebla, Mexico |
| 07:41.33 | mattzerah | thanx jt - i'll keep it in the freepbx channel then :) |
| 07:41.44 | drmessano | Ok |
| 07:42.04 | drmessano | That sounds more like it.. |
| 07:42.18 | neonerz | :( |
| 07:42.31 | drmessano | I vaguely remember that.. had no idea they had continued to make them |
| 07:42.43 | drmessano | ...at the time |
| 07:43.01 | drmessano | I thought they had stopped making the NEW BUGS.. and had to double check.. |
| 07:43.38 | drmessano | I wonder if they improved or deviated the design.. I've never read much about the continuing legacy |
| 07:43.39 | neonerz | You guys know of a channel I could get help on meetme? I can't get cbmysql to work |
| 07:43.57 | drmessano | neonerz, maybe #trixbox |
| 07:44.00 | J4k3 | well, the 'new bug' is nothing but an ugly jetta |
| 07:44.04 | J4k3 | same crappy FWD setup, etc. |
| 07:44.05 | neonerz | everyone is dead there |
| 07:44.08 | neonerz | I checked |
| 07:44.40 | neonerz | I'm going crazy, the call just dies when it hits cbmysql |
| 07:44.44 | drmessano | I'm just wondering how a 2003 old style bug varies, if at all, from a 1972 |
| 07:44.51 | neonerz | nothing in the console but a hangup |
| 07:44.55 | drmessano | If they did much to them |
| 07:45.04 | drmessano | Improved... or what |
| 07:45.09 | J4k3 | drmessano: yeah, I think they eventually got stuff like fuel injection |
| 07:45.24 | J4k3 | I think the body is pretty much the same, maybe materials changes |
| 07:45.41 | drmessano | Still need a class D to put a smoking one out? lol |
| 07:45.59 | JT | there are fuel injected old style bugs |
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| 07:46.15 | J4k3 | JT: there are lot of aftermarket ones done, too |
| 07:46.21 | JT | yeah |
| 07:46.25 | J4k3 | megasquirt, the GNU ECU :) |
| 07:46.26 | JT | i've seen the factory injection |
| 07:46.31 | JT | lots of transistors |
| 07:46.46 | JT | the megasquirt is cool |
| 07:46.53 | drmessano | I've seen one melt |
| 07:46.58 | J4k3 | the ignition add-on for it is cute |
| 07:49.07 | J4k3 | wish I had a pile of cash to blow, I'd like to design a nice 8-10 seat twin engine plane wrapped around the cadillac northstar platform |
| 07:49.18 | J4k3 | very light, oodles of power, already has a great ECU |
| 07:49.27 | drmessano | http://ourlighterside.com/stuff/engineer/ <-- One way to improve the horsepower |
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| 07:57.16 | J4k3 | thats just... wrong |
| 07:57.16 | J4k3 | haha |
| 07:57.25 | J4k3 | I'd hate to see the driver if the engine decided to burp out some fire on start |
| 07:57.56 | drmessano | "Dude, this thing hauls ass... " "Yeah, I bet it burns it too" |
| 07:58.16 | J4k3 | that car needs a custom plate |
| 07:58.18 | J4k3 | PREP-H |
| 07:58.22 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:58.35 | J4k3 | people say texas is redneck |
| 07:58.51 | J4k3 | I mean you'll see the occasional 4x4 lifted camaro |
| 07:58.59 | J4k3 | but you'll never see a jet engine in the back of a VW bug |
| 07:59.06 | drmessano | Alabama has Texas beat |
| 07:59.21 | J4k3 | I send rejected girlfriends to alabama |
| 07:59.35 | J4k3 | they find losers bigger than me to marry, works great. |
| 07:59.36 | J4k3 | ;) |
| 07:59.42 | drmessano | Kentucky is close too |
| 07:59.51 | drmessano | The most depressing state in the union |
| 08:00.19 | J4k3 | in the next couple weeks I'm going to jump in my dodge and drive to the TN/KY border with my girlfriend, her best friend lives up there |
| 08:00.45 | J4k3 | then come back down through little rock and pick up all the rest of her shit and haul her oldschool (96 civic, needs a clutch) back to texas. |
| 08:00.58 | J4k3 | I'm guessing somewhere in this the dodge will explode, cuz thats what dodges do. |
| 08:01.45 | drmessano | One trip I made to Kentucky.. I ended up on the wrong side of the state |
| 08:01.50 | J4k3 | ack |
| 08:01.59 | drmessano | Had to drive the "Blue Ridge Parkway" |
| 08:02.02 | J4k3 | I've been told we're going through memphis |
| 08:02.03 | drmessano | No |
| 08:02.08 | drmessano | Had to drive the "Blue Grass Parkway" |
| 08:02.19 | J4k3 | 'through the neighborhood where three-six mafia lives' |
| 08:02.24 | J4k3 | I'm like... *fear* |
| 08:02.24 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 08:02.40 | J4k3 | apparently the street where Hustle and Flow was filmed is right beside the freeway |
| 08:02.50 | J4k3 | they've erected a big ass wall between it and the freeway though |
| 08:02.59 | drmessano | Mobile Asterisk wont help you there |
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| 08:03.19 | J4k3 | a good aim and a heavy foot are the only things that might |
| 08:03.25 | J4k3 | quick trigger finger |
| 08:03.34 | drmessano | You gotta quick on the steel |
| 08:03.37 | drmessano | yo |
| 08:04.03 | neonerz | what if I changed my question to - It seems like cbmysql isn't registered with asterisk even though I did add the module to asterisk/modules/ and reloaded, how can I get asterisk to reconize it? |
| 08:04.06 | J4k3 | I'll pull out my antique and while they're going "is that a real luger" I'll shoot 'em in the dingding. |
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| 08:04.27 | neonerz | could someone help me with that? |
| 08:05.08 | drmessano | what if I changed my answer to - "Sorry, I don't know anything about pokemon"? |
| 08:05.22 | J4k3 | yay, all the stickers are off my new laptop except the most blingtacular "Windows Vista" sticker. |
| 08:05.55 | neonerz | well that would be off topic :) |
| 08:05.55 | drmessano | No |
| 08:06.01 | neonerz | no? |
| 08:06.03 | drmessano | The only thing off topic in here is Asterisk |
| 08:06.05 | J4k3 | no means no |
| 08:06.19 | jblack | woot! NAND memory chips that read at 200MB/s and writes at 100MB/sec |
| 08:06.26 | drmessano | and the Gizmo project |
| 08:06.28 | J4k3 | nice |
| 08:06.31 | drmessano | Thats WAY off topic |
| 08:06.39 | J4k3 | whiz mo' |
| 08:06.41 | jblack | It's so cool, it's insta-on-topic |
| 08:06.42 | neonerz | I don't get it, why would asterisk be off topic in here? |
| 08:06.42 | J4k3 | yellow dreams |
| 08:06.54 | jblack | that's "bye hard drives in 2 years" good |
| 08:06.56 | J4k3 | neonerz: humor |
| 08:06.59 | drmessano | Gizmo Project is not a project |
| 08:07.15 | drmessano | Gizmo Project is more of a "kit" |
| 08:07.21 | drmessano | Like something from Radio Shack |
| 08:07.25 | neonerz | I've been up too long trying to figure this out to sniff out humor over IRC |
| 08:07.29 | drmessano | "Maybe it works, but nah" |
| 08:07.34 | J4k3 | One Asterisk Per Child |
| 08:07.42 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 08:07.44 | J4k3 | the asterisk package for olpc |
| 08:07.51 | jblack | neonerz: Aww. That's the price of free help. :) |
| 08:07.55 | drmessano | I came up with One PBX Per Child |
| 08:07.57 | neonerz | oh i know |
| 08:07.57 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:08.05 | neonerz | I'm just hitting a brick wall |
| 08:08.33 | drmessano | You know, if every kid could have an Asterisk home automation system on their $199 laptop |
| 08:08.33 | jblack | seriously though, gizmo isn't discussed here. I don't now why. I figured gizmo buggered choir boys or something |
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| 08:08.37 | neonerz | i seem to be getting closer and close though |
| 08:08.39 | J4k3 | just wait til the smart 3rd world kid figures out how to h4x all their friends olpcs and make them all his beowulf bitches. |
| 08:08.41 | drmessano | The world would be a batter place |
| 08:08.46 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 08:08.52 | drmessano | OLPC fuckin Botnet |
| 08:08.56 | J4k3 | oh snap |
| 08:08.58 | neonerz | ROFL |
| 08:09.10 | jblack | I think that's actually coming on their mesh network |
| 08:09.18 | drmessano | "TURN THE CRANK, IM HAXORING" |
| 08:09.25 | jblack | LOL!!! |
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| 08:09.35 | drmessano | HAHAH |
| 08:09.37 | J4k3 | well |
| 08:09.45 | drmessano | jblack You crank, i'll haxor.. cool? |
| 08:09.48 | J4k3 | they can make the olpt |
| 08:09.51 | J4k3 | one laptop per teen |
| 08:09.55 | jblack | Wait... |
| 08:10.01 | jblack | I turn your crank, and you get all the fun? |
| 08:10.03 | J4k3 | with the masturbation-based charging device |
| 08:10.05 | jblack | Who are you? My ex-wife? |
| 08:10.08 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 08:10.15 | drmessano | One Laptop Per Teen |
| 08:10.21 | drmessano | IDK my BFF Jill |
| 08:10.48 | J4k3 | "shaddup mom, I'm charging my laptop!" |
| 08:10.55 | jblack | Heh. If my kid did that to me, I'd teach her a new one.. ><smack>< |
| 08:11.08 | drmessano | Thats all we need 120,000 ethiopians learning english through AOLspeak |
| 08:11.16 | drmessano | LIEK ZOMG |
| 08:11.19 | J4k3 | easier to understand than engrish |
| 08:11.20 | J4k3 | kinda |
| 08:11.37 | drmessano | They can learn LOLCAT |
| 08:11.39 | J4k3 | better to get them AOLSpeak than SMS language |
| 08:11.45 | J4k3 | r u n8kd?! |
| 08:11.46 | jblack | Heh. Imagine the twist on the 409 scams... |
| 08:11.56 | drmessano | O HAI, I R FRUM ETHIOPIA |
| 08:12.08 | J4k3 | what jbot needs is some good ol' AOLsay |
| 08:12.10 | J4k3 | ~aolsay |
| 08:12.16 | drmessano | IM IN UR OLPC LAPTOP, STEELIN UR MESH |
| 08:12.31 | J4k3 | TURNING YOUR MESH TO MUSH |
| 08:12.42 | J4k3 | mush notworking |
| 08:13.07 | drmessano | 409 scammers on OLPCs |
| 08:13.09 | jblack | MIA UNCLE DIED FROM CRANKING TEH LAPPIE. HE LEFF ME 12 BAMILLION BUX0RS. TAKE ME MONEY SO I CAN EXCAPE TO REAL COMPUTOR. |
| 08:13.10 | drmessano | That would rock |
| 08:13.17 | drmessano | HAHA |
| 08:13.23 | drmessano | 419 rather |
| 08:13.35 | drmessano | Those people are funny |
| 08:13.37 | jblack | they'd be in a race to see who could do the most spams per turn |
| 08:13.42 | drmessano | I get IMs from them now and then |
| 08:14.00 | drmessano | I tell them I am a millionaire and that I like to beat women |
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| 08:14.33 | drmessano | I build them up, and crush them at the same time |
| 08:15.02 | drmessano | Someone needs to photoshop 419 scammers using Asterisk |
| 08:15.32 | jblack | who was that * over my cell dork from earlier? |
| 08:15.39 | yang | Which is still affordable latency for the VOIP connections ? |
| 08:15.50 | J4k3 | * over cell is neat, yay for free m2m |
| 08:16.17 | drmessano | * over the RDS in your car, dug |
| 08:16.18 | drmessano | * over the RDS in your car, duh |
| 08:16.55 | drmessano | I'm getting ready to install HD for 2 of my stations next month.. cant even tell you how many hops our damn RDS data jumps |
| 08:17.58 | jblack | dr.. You've done packet over ham, right? |
| 08:18.12 | drmessano | oh yes |
| 08:18.20 | jblack | what sort of throughput can you get? |
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| 08:18.46 | drmessano | for the average radio today.. you can run 9600 baud.. but its pushing it |
| 08:18.55 | drmessano | Most runs at 1200 |
| 08:19.01 | jblack | so, telemetry, but not much else |
| 08:19.18 | drmessano | light keyboard <> keyboard |
| 08:19.21 | drmessano | but yeah |
| 08:20.04 | kamanashisroy | hi, I have a simple code to dial a number .. the caller listens the called party before he starts to talk pressing '*' .. |
| 08:20.16 | kamanashisroy | I do not know if it is useful to any person .. |
| 08:20.31 | kamanashisroy | But I just want to leave the code somewhere in asterisk server .. |
| 08:20.36 | kamanashisroy | any suggestion ? |
| 08:21.43 | drmessano | jblack.. a lot of the Ham AVL stuff works great at 1200.. Since its lat/long and brief status |
| 08:21.50 | drmessano | thats mostly what they're doing with it now |
| 08:21.56 | drmessano | The internet killed the rest |
| 08:22.21 | drmessano | Ive toyed with building a parser for position reports tied into asterisk |
| 08:22.55 | drmessano | or maybe a position injector |
| 08:23.08 | jblack | Yeah, that's cool and all. |
| 08:23.26 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:23.37 | jblack | I was somehow hoping for more. Put something on top of an abandoned watertower and setup a private network. |
| 08:23.52 | drmessano | Well |
| 08:23.56 | drmessano | You CAN... |
| 08:24.09 | drmessano | Just not with the common CBer level parts |
| 08:24.42 | drmessano | They make radios up to 56k.. for one |
| 08:25.09 | jblack | I suppose the cost of the radios increases exponetionally to the bitrate |
| 08:25.19 | jblack | pardon the spelling |
| 08:26.21 | drmessano | The other is that you can use Wiki gear as a ham |
| 08:26.24 | drmessano | Wifi |
| 08:26.26 | drmessano | Not Wiki |
| 08:26.31 | drmessano | and increase the power |
| 08:26.39 | jblack | legally? |
| 08:27.52 | drmessano | Some of the lower wifi channels are within the ham allocation |
| 08:27.59 | drmessano | So you can run much higher power |
| 08:28.38 | drmessano | Actually, it may be ALL of the band |
| 08:29.31 | jblack | so get a parabolic and that's close enough to one of the channels, pump it through an amplifier... and you can get some serious range... |
| 08:29.32 | drmessano | Sorry |
| 08:29.44 | drmessano | 2 thru 6, up to 100watts |
| 08:30.02 | jblack | Heh. That beats consumer, which is 4 watts. :) |
| 08:30.14 | jblack | and I dont think most devices are going anywhere near that |
| 08:30.35 | JT | in the US, without a ham licence you can do a lot more than 4 Watts EIRP through a directional antenna |
| 08:30.46 | JT | it's easy to hit 4 wats with a good parabolic |
| 08:31.27 | JT | but the fcc has a provision to allow wifi to be at much higher EIRP levels than 4W if it's not omnidirectional |
| 08:31.46 | drmessano | Id rather push the 100 watts lol |
| 08:31.50 | jblack | uhhh, 4 watts is 4 watts is 4 watts... Whether you shoot it omnidirectionally, or push it all in one direction. |
| 08:31.58 | drmessano | Would be fun to try |
| 08:32.00 | JT | jblack: what are you talking about? |
| 08:32.29 | jblack | sure.. but said abandoned water tower... I'd have to power with solar and batteries... |
| 08:32.41 | jblack | JT: Nothing important. |
| 08:32.46 | JT | jblack: let me restate. there is a us law that allows unlicensed users to transmit 2.4GHz wifi signals at greater than 4W EIRP if you are using above a certain level of gain antenna |
| 08:32.56 | drmessano | WRT54G, big battery, solar charger |
| 08:33.16 | JT | and the EIRP is completely affected by antenna type |
| 08:33.32 | jblack | JT: I know you're not going to like this, but personally, I don't really trust anything you say. Your sage advice would be better spent on ears less deaf than mine |
| 08:33.44 | neonerz | grrrr found the problem |
| 08:33.59 | neonerz | [Feb 2 03:25:41] ERROR[20795] app_cbmysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql data |
| 08:33.59 | drmessano | neonerz, I knew you would find it |
| 08:34.09 | drmessano | I had confidence in you |
| 08:34.10 | neonerz | I just cant find the solution |
| 08:34.12 | JT | jblack: well what so so bad about this advice? feel free to check up on it |
| 08:34.14 | neonerz | lol |
| 08:34.15 | jblack | No offense. I'm sure you're a really bright guy and get invited to all the parties. We just don't speak the same language. |
| 08:34.22 | neonerz | I'll get it though |
| 08:34.25 | JT | jblack: eh? |
| 08:34.29 | neonerz | I have to have a config fudged somewhere |
| 08:34.55 | JT | jblack: you think i am trying to deceive you? :o |
| 08:35.02 | jblack | No. |
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| 08:35.26 | jblack | I just think you're 1/2 of shit, and I find it too hard to pick the grain from the poo. |
| 08:35.37 | jblack | 1/2 full of. |
| 08:35.38 | JT | jblack: how so? |
| 08:36.50 | jblack | How do I think that... Well, I'm not a neurologist, but I would assume that the the various neurons and synapses have formed in my brain in such a way to think each odd thing you say is bogus, and each even thing arrogant,obnoxious, and rude. |
| 08:37.12 | jblack | So, while you're no doubt a great guy, I think you suck, no doubt because of misperceptions on my part. |
| 08:37.45 | jblack | Anyways, sorry. |
| 08:41.21 | jblack | drmessano: Where were we? |
| 08:41.33 | drmessano | Well |
| 08:41.44 | drmessano | For $118.. you can get 500mw on eBay LOL |
| 08:41.46 | drmessano | Thats awful |
| 08:42.15 | jblack | In the 802.11 range? I didn't realize they were _that_ bad. |
| 08:42.34 | drmessano | Ahhh |
| 08:42.39 | drmessano | I found something |
| 08:42.47 | jblack | Actually, I have one upstairs. There should be an fcc sticker that lists their wattage, no? |
| 08:43.01 | drmessano | Whats the word most associated with cool amps for consumer boxes? |
| 08:43.20 | drmessano | "export" |
| 08:43.24 | drmessano | LOL |
| 08:43.28 | drmessano | export is very FTW |
| 08:43.30 | JT | ah, i checked up on the 2.4GHz transmit thing, it's unlimited directional (>6dBi) EIRP for ham operators, for point to point operation |
| 08:44.09 | JT | so you can transmit at 4kW EIRP legally at 2.4GHz with a ham licence, for exa,ple |
| 08:44.30 | drmessano | EIRP is never an issue for ham |
| 08:44.37 | drmessano | Transmitter power level is |
| 08:44.54 | jblack | lessee. I have a netgear 802.11n here. |
| 08:45.31 | jblack | oh, awesome. |
| 08:45.35 | drmessano | I _think_ hams are limited to 100watts on 2.4GHZ because we're secondary |
| 08:45.58 | man_o_magic | easy question: what is [default] context used for? |
| 08:46.04 | jblack | we'll have to look up via the FCC ID. Certainly they have to register the device's broadcast wattage, no? |
| 08:46.14 | drmessano | I dunno |
| 08:46.28 | jblack | man_o_magic: Sincerely, whatever you want. the [default] context is exactly like all the other ones... just another name. =) |
| 08:46.35 | *** join/#asterisk af_ (n=getsmart@88-149-240-211.dynamic.ngi.it) |
| 08:47.47 | neonerz | is there anyway I could get more specific information about why I'm getting [Feb 2 03:25:41] ERROR[20795] app_cbmysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql data in /var/log/asterisk/full? |
| 08:47.56 | neonerz | I know the username and password is correct |
| 08:48.19 | man_o_magic | jblack, I was just looking CLI output and keeps said NOTICE... pbx.c .... Cannot find extension context 'default' |
| 08:48.30 | man_o_magic | does it mean I am referencing it somewhere? |
| 08:49.05 | man_o_magic | pardon my typing skills :oops: |
| 08:50.22 | jblack | man_o_magic: Ok, so... probably in your sip.conf or iax.conf, you're saying that the line should go into the default context. |
| 08:50.31 | jblack | look for "context=default". |
| 08:50.45 | jblack | It's also possible that in some other context, you did an include => default |
| 08:50.47 | drmessano | Hams can run 1500watts on 2.4GHZ from wifi channels 1 to 5 |
| 08:50.49 | jblack | Starting to come together for ya? |
| 08:51.56 | man_o_magic | jblack, ok, I will look through the files again |
| 08:53.58 | drmessano | Ive always dreamt of Wifi + VoiP for ham use |
| 08:54.13 | drmessano | But I know NOBODY In this area that is so forward thinking |
| 08:54.27 | drmessano | They're still arguing over putting Private Line tones on 2m Repeaters |
| 08:54.58 | jblack | man_o_magic: Ok. If you still have trouble figuring it out, type ~pb here, and paste them on one of those sites? (don't forget to wipe the pass). I'll walk you through where the default is coming from |
| 08:55.47 | JT | drmessano: is there multiple users on the 2m freqs? |
| 08:55.56 | JT | or do they have people interfering |
| 08:56.46 | J4k3 | drmessano: 2m is for noobs. let 'em whine |
| 08:56.50 | drmessano | lol |
| 08:57.44 | drmessano | Partly interference.. they're trying to decrease the amount of protection for each frequency and increase the density |
| 08:57.50 | JT | ah |
| 08:58.14 | drmessano | I use PL as an old fart filter |
| 08:58.27 | J4k3 | my pl gen uses a knob. |
| 08:58.28 | JT | i was going to say, PL/CTCSS is about the worst security against people who want to tx |
| 08:58.30 | J4k3 | and it doesn't click. |
| 08:58.58 | J4k3 | of course, my radio is older than the hills |
| 08:59.02 | JT | my scanner detects pl codes most of the time, and it only takes about 15mins to brute force all the codes |
| 08:59.12 | J4k3 | and I've never actually TX'd on it because I don't have a license. I have let my friend blabber on it before |
| 08:59.21 | J4k3 | works great except for the pl gen having a damned knob. |
| 08:59.21 | drmessano | I put a repeater up at one of my sites, 440.. right in the middle of town, HUGE signal... and had PL on it from day 1.. I got SOO many complaints about it |
| 08:59.22 | JT | DCS/DPL is pretty decent, security wise |
| 08:59.24 | drmessano | I was pleased :D |
| 09:00.02 | drmessano | PL/DPL should never be about security |
| 09:00.31 | drmessano | I can find a DPL code in under a minute on an active frequency.. 3 or 4 minuts inactive |
| 09:00.31 | JT | yeah not in any real sense |
| 09:00.33 | JT | i agree |
| 09:00.48 | drmessano | and thats doing it the hard way |
| 09:00.58 | J4k3 | its a squelch replacement. |
| 09:01.05 | JT | i don't know many freqs using dpl, so i haven't tried out my scanner much on that |
| 09:01.15 | JT | drmessano: how do you do it? |
| 09:01.22 | drmessano | Thats all its really meant for.. is reduce intereference somewhat |
| 09:01.30 | drmessano | Key a radio, spin the knob |
| 09:01.37 | drmessano | Listen on another rig |
| 09:01.58 | man_o_magic | jblack, I just grepped for [default] in my .conf files and I see voicemail, musiconhold,osp,misdn and iaxprov. These are sample files, which I haven't got to yet. I just finished extensions and sip |
| 09:02.04 | drmessano | or key, spin through a handful, unkey and listen for a tail |
| 09:02.08 | drmessano | Then repeat |
| 09:02.14 | drmessano | For one radio |
| 09:02.44 | man_o_magic | it's not a biggie, the system works fine |
| 09:02.44 | drmessano | Thats forcing the issue by keying |
| 09:02.56 | jblack | man_o_magic: ok. |
| 09:03.00 | drmessano | If the channel is active, I can spin through all the DPLs in 30 seconds |
| 09:03.25 | man_o_magic | jblack, thanks though :) |
| 09:03.41 | drmessano | I didnt publish the PL for my repeater, but most found it by searching.. |
| 09:03.49 | drmessano | The other 95% don't have PL |
| 09:03.49 | JT | drmessano: hrm, how does the channel being active help or not if you're brute forcing? |
| 09:03.50 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:04.16 | drmessano | If the channel is active, I can spin the knob and find it.. If its not active, I need to key.. which takes longer |
| 09:04.35 | drmessano | I either need to key, check a few, unkey.. or use two radios |
| 09:05.19 | JT | ah |
| 09:05.22 | JT | rx code knob |
| 09:05.23 | JT | right |
| 09:05.26 | JT | was thinking tx |
| 09:05.51 | drmessano | Very few use diff PLs or DPLs |
| 09:05.54 | drmessano | But actually |
| 09:06.10 | drmessano | We have a FD here with 2 repeaters.. and they both have diff input PLs.. with the same output PL |
| 09:06.14 | neonerz | GRRR |
| 09:06.19 | drmessano | North and South channels |
| 09:06.46 | drmessano | Two radios and a little keying.. found that one |
| 09:06.55 | J4k3 | theres an SO near here with a repeater they haven't bothered using in like 6 years. |
| 09:07.11 | J4k3 | kids have been using it |
| 09:07.13 | JT | drmessano: the problem for me is it's not as easy as spinning a wheel to brute force |
| 09:07.20 | JT | ham gear can't do the freqs involved |
| 09:07.31 | JT | so it means programming about 250channels in a commerical radio |
| 09:07.35 | JT | and cycling thru them all |
| 09:07.40 | drmessano | What range? |
| 09:08.00 | JT | uhf |
| 09:08.08 | JT | 450-500 |
| 09:08.11 | drmessano | Uh |
| 09:08.13 | JT | i'm not in the us btw |
| 09:08.15 | drmessano | My radio will |
| 09:08.23 | JT | oh nice |
| 09:08.25 | drmessano | You can mod most of them |
| 09:08.28 | JT | will it do custom splits/ |
| 09:08.33 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 09:08.35 | JT | a lot cant do custom splits |
| 09:08.36 | JT | even with mods |
| 09:08.44 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 09:08.55 | drmessano | All the Yaesu stuff will |
| 09:09.19 | J4k3 | theres some cheap chinese handhelds on ebay that will do custom splits |
| 09:09.25 | J4k3 | wide frequency range |
| 09:09.25 | drmessano | PUXING! |
| 09:09.28 | JT | i prefer commercial gear a lot of time if it's a few set frequencies i need access too |
| 09:09.28 | J4k3 | yes |
| 09:09.29 | drmessano | I have one |
| 09:09.32 | J4k3 | MOTHER PUXING |
| 09:09.34 | JT | i have a couple of VHF puxings |
| 09:09.36 | J4k3 | they're the grandstream of 2-way radio |
| 09:09.40 | drmessano | HAH |
| 09:09.42 | drmessano | Yes, they are |
| 09:09.47 | man_o_magic | guys, can I use variables in pattern matching expressions? |
| 09:10.01 | JT | i also have about 30 motorola radios, so that makes up for it, right? ;) |
| 09:10.11 | drmessano | $90 USD for a radio with voice inversion and a spare battery |
| 09:10.22 | man_o_magic | eg exten => _${CAT}${SUBCAT}XX,1,Dial(blahblah) |
| 09:10.30 | JT | mm |
| 09:10.39 | J4k3 | I'm going to rain yellow gold upon the land |
| 09:10.43 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 09:10.45 | JT | what about APCO25? ;) |
| 09:10.50 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:11.02 | drmessano | A bigger joke is the ham digital |
| 09:11.11 | JT | my XTS3000 does that, no DES-OFB module though :( |
| 09:11.31 | drmessano | Just get a Saber |
| 09:11.33 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:11.41 | JT | yeah i have 3 analogue ones |
| 09:11.47 | JT | indestructable |
| 09:12.49 | JT | too big to use very often though |
| 09:12.58 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 09:13.09 | JT | the astro sabers are even bigger |
| 09:13.11 | drmessano | We've got a repeater with the DES on it |
| 09:13.13 | JT | they're like an inch taller |
| 09:13.23 | drmessano | Keyloader and all that mess |
| 09:13.31 | drmessano | Got it from practically nothing |
| 09:13.34 | drmessano | for* |
| 09:13.48 | JT | you don't have a KVL3000 do you? |
| 09:14.10 | drmessano | Not that I can recall |
| 09:14.28 | JT | it's a totally new series and totally different price tag to the old bricks |
| 09:15.39 | drmessano | My best friend handles most of the programming.. we've amassed a collection of cables, RIB's, keyloaders, and whatever else |
| 09:16.02 | drmessano | Oh, I forgot "dongles" |
| 09:16.04 | drmessano | Gotta love a dongle |
| 09:16.40 | drmessano | Most of that stuff is becoming obsolete |
| 09:17.02 | drmessano | Can't find a computer to program an HT600 with in 2008 |
| 09:17.31 | JT | lol |
| 09:17.38 | JT | that's what a pentium 1 laptop is for |
| 09:17.42 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:17.59 | JT | i have a massive brick laptop |
| 09:18.07 | JT | people laught and ask me why i have it |
| 09:18.09 | drmessano | Damn radios last longer than the computers you need to program with |
| 09:18.33 | JT | yeah and radio manufacturers dont want to revise their old software to work on modern pcs |
| 09:18.42 | JT | then people would be less inclined to buy new gear |
| 09:18.46 | drmessano | Especially motorola |
| 09:19.07 | JT | yeah |
| 09:19.19 | JT | they have government departments by the balls |
| 09:19.58 | obnauticus | Err hopefully this $50 42U rack is worth it lol |
| 09:20.31 | JT | imagine if it came with no mounting rails |
| 09:20.33 | JT | ;) |
| 09:20.37 | obnauticus | it probably wont |
| 09:20.39 | obnauticus | but the guy has uhh |
| 09:20.40 | drmessano | I've been pretty lucky that the county stuff I am involved in, the EMA director trusts what we do, and doesnt cry motorola |
| 09:20.42 | obnauticus | rails he'll sell me for probably |
| 09:20.43 | obnauticus | EXTREMELY cheap |
| 09:20.49 | obnauticus | like 10$s for a set of 10 4U rails |
| 09:20.56 | drmessano | So we've got Kenwood radios, and are looking at Asterisk for some things |
| 09:21.06 | JT | i meant the vertical rails that all the gear bolts to |
| 09:21.12 | JT | they're removable in a lot of racks |
| 09:21.14 | obnauticus | ya |
| 09:21.19 | JT | i once got a $80 rack |
| 09:21.20 | obnauticus | quick rails? |
| 09:21.27 | JT | then spend $150 on new mounting rails |
| 09:21.30 | obnauticus | ya |
| 09:21.33 | obnauticus | i'll get them for 10 |
| 09:21.34 | JT | the square hole ones? |
| 09:21.37 | obnauticus | yes |
| 09:21.42 | obnauticus | at the old OSDL place |
| 09:21.43 | obnauticus | they moved out |
| 09:21.46 | obnauticus | i saw linus' desk |
| 09:21.49 | JT | then i ended up not using that rack :( |
| 09:21.51 | obnauticus | my friend bought his keyboard and monitor |
| 09:22.08 | drmessano | LINUS TOLD ME I COULD HAVE THAT |
| 09:22.13 | drmessano | Lying bastard |
| 09:22.15 | obnauticus | are you serious? |
| 09:22.16 | obnauticus | Lmao |
| 09:22.20 | jblack | Oh, that reminds me. |
| 09:22.24 | obnauticus | We're talking about the same OSDL place? |
| 09:22.30 | jblack | drmessano: Linus sent me a note. He says he don't love you any more |
| 09:22.33 | drmessano | Yes, and the same LINUS |
| 09:22.34 | obnauticus | JT could you look at this picture and see if you recognise the rack brand name |
| 09:22.37 | jblack | Sorry I forgot to give it to ya |
| 09:22.39 | obnauticus | i need to know what the form factor is and stuff |
| 09:22.40 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:22.44 | obnauticus | because i cannot tell |
| 09:22.47 | obnauticus | and i know it's what im getting |
| 09:23.04 | obnauticus | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/1418364_9b5a366364_o.jpg one of those |
| 09:23.26 | drmessano | Tell Linus he can keep his keyboard, and he knows where he can stick his kernel |
| 09:23.44 | obnauticus | drmessano i want to meet Linus, but i only got to see his desk and whiteboard |
| 09:23.49 | obnauticus | it still had diagrams on it and stuff |
| 09:24.28 | JT | obnauticus: looks similar to the ones Hurricane Electric use |
| 09:24.32 | JT | apart from that, not sure :( |
| 09:24.41 | obnauticus | ya |
| 09:24.47 | obnauticus | I didn't really see a brand on it when i wnet to check it out |
| 09:24.50 | obnauticus | the place was a gold mine |
| 09:24.52 | drmessano | I want to meet Darl McBride |
| 09:24.57 | obnauticus | like he was selling SAS drives for like 20 a pop |
| 09:25.00 | drmessano | and ask him "How do you sleep?" |
| 09:25.44 | JT | hmm |
| 09:25.48 | JT | bargain |
| 09:25.50 | obnauticus | ya JT it looks like the ones in their colo center. |
| 09:26.21 | drmessano | I want open source hardware.. like, russellb just leaving a 400GB SATA drive in SVN for me to download |
| 09:26.21 | obnauticus | If you are in the pacific northwest i can give you his number |
| 09:26.21 | obnauticus | if you want to talk to him |
| 09:26.42 | JT | haha |
| 09:26.46 | obnauticus | lol i want a 3d printer that has extremely high resolution and access to every material |
| 09:26.48 | JT | i'm a little far, obnauticus |
| 09:26.49 | obnauticus | so i can print hardware. |
| 09:27.01 | obnauticus | think about that |
| 09:27.02 | obnauticus | pirating hardware |
| 09:27.09 | drmessano | obnauticus, tell Linus to send me the rack |
| 09:27.15 | drmessano | I am good for the money |
| 09:27.16 | obnauticus | Linus isn't selling it |
| 09:27.17 | obnauticus | lol |
| 09:27.20 | obnauticus | you need to pick it up |
| 09:27.24 | drmessano | Its Open Source, so we're cool |
| 09:27.26 | obnauticus | i found this on craigs list and it's from OSDL |
| 09:27.27 | obnauticus | ya |
| 09:27.29 | JT | obnauticus: wonder how much it would cost to ship >15000km |
| 09:27.35 | obnauticus | a lot |
| 09:27.39 | obnauticus | wait |
| 09:27.42 | drmessano | Open Source racks? |
| 09:27.44 | obnauticus | yes |
| 09:27.47 | obnauticus | of course |
| 09:27.49 | drmessano | My ass, I want to see the source code |
| 09:27.52 | obnauticus | they provide instructions. |
| 09:27.59 | obnauticus | you can change the screws |
| 09:28.00 | obnauticus | if you really want |
| 09:28.05 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:28.05 | obnauticus | there are standards for screw threads |
| 09:28.12 | obnauticus | 60 degreese and like a .1mm spacing |
| 09:28.13 | drmessano | Hmm |
| 09:28.22 | obnauticus | 60 degree pitch and .1mm spacing iirc. |
| 09:28.32 | drmessano | Am I allowed to patch the racks? |
| 09:28.39 | obnauticus | yes. |
| 09:28.49 | *** join/#asterisk angryuser (i=nononon@df01t2-212-194-87-103.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 09:28.51 | obnauticus | i think the one im picking up is either 47, 44, or like the guy said 42/42.5U |
| 09:28.57 | obnauticus | i don't understand how you can have half a U |
| 09:29.01 | drmessano | I bet I need to get past some picky ass to commit though |
| 09:29.03 | obnauticus | wtf is that good for a netgear router? |
| 09:29.17 | neonerz | before I call it a night (its 4:30am here) everyone sure they don't want to help me with my cbmysql problem? |
| 09:29.17 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:29.24 | neonerz | :) |
| 09:29.33 | drmessano | neonerz |
| 09:29.45 | neonerz | yea i know |
| 09:29.48 | drmessano | I hate MySQL... I am a strick AS/400 Oracle user |
| 09:29.48 | neonerz | sorry :( |
| 09:29.51 | drmessano | Sorry :( |
| 09:29.58 | obnauticus | MySQL is slow |
| 09:30.00 | obnauticus | i like portageSQL |
| 09:30.05 | obnauticus | but to tell you the truth i don't give a shit. |
| 09:30.20 | neonerz | but meetme needs mysql |
| 09:30.21 | drmessano | MySQL is ass.. Oracle FTW.. I even use Oracle at home |
| 09:30.35 | JT | normal meetme doesn't need mysql |
| 09:30.42 | neonerz | meetme3? |
| 09:30.45 | JT | what meetme are you talking about neonerz ? |
| 09:30.47 | obnauticus | Does it have tables [X]; Does it have Rows [X]; Does it have DB in the name [ ]; Is it fast [ ]; <-- Mysql |
| 09:30.48 | drmessano | WebMeetme.. 3.0 |
| 09:30.51 | neonerz | yea |
| 09:30.52 | JT | i'm not really sure what that is |
| 09:30.55 | drmessano | With the scheduling |
| 09:31.02 | drmessano | It crao |
| 09:31.04 | drmessano | It crap |
| 09:31.09 | obnauticus | crao! |
| 09:31.10 | drmessano | I use a modified 1.2 I made |
| 09:31.11 | neonerz | its meetme conference with a bunch of stuff |
| 09:31.47 | drmessano | I like the web based conference admin, but the scheduling doesnt interest me |
| 09:31.52 | jblack | drmessano: Tonight, I learned I'm a moron |
| 09:32.02 | drmessano | I learned that last week |
| 09:32.03 | obnauticus | I learned that long ago sister. |
| 09:32.05 | drmessano | I mean |
| 09:32.05 | neonerz | the webbased admin is what I want it for |
| 09:32.05 | drmessano | How? |
| 09:32.11 | obnauticus | Your mom, of course. |
| 09:32.14 | obnauticus | She's like wrong hole, moron. |
| 09:32.19 | neonerz | makes it real easy for anyone to setup a conference |
| 09:32.31 | neonerz | scheduling doesn't hurt either |
| 09:32.34 | jblack | I bouth a wireless-n router not too long ago (netgear), and tossed it on the pile-o-crap because it didn't have ethernet ports.... |
| 09:32.43 | obnauticus | wtf |
| 09:32.47 | obnauticus | I hate domesticated routers. |
| 09:32.53 | obnauticus | I'm going to get a Juniper |
| 09:32.59 | obnauticus | I still don't know why i want one of those |
| 09:33.00 | jblack | well, tonight, I riped off the "you need to install the software first" sticker, only to find said missing ethernet ports |
| 09:33.02 | neonerz | m20 all the way |
| 09:33.04 | obnauticus | ya |
| 09:33.04 | obnauticus | shit |
| 09:33.07 | obnauticus | where can i get an M20 |
| 09:33.11 | JT | because they are insanely expensive? |
| 09:33.15 | neonerz | we got 2 |
| 09:33.19 | JT | is that why you want it? |
| 09:33.19 | obnauticus | Ya, but they are insanely cool |
| 09:33.21 | neonerz | not to bad |
| 09:33.24 | drmessano | My home network runs on a Cisco 2801 |
| 09:33.29 | obnauticus | I run FreeBSD with pf |
| 09:33.30 | JT | true |
| 09:33.33 | obnauticus | and other servies |
| 09:33.33 | drmessano | LOL jblack |
| 09:33.35 | drmessano | MOOORON |
| 09:33.43 | JT | but even junipers can't do a lot of hot switching |
| 09:33.44 | neonerz | its insanely expensive compared against a 2800 |
| 09:33.51 | JT | like hotswaps |
| 09:33.54 | drmessano | Well |
| 09:33.56 | neonerz | yea |
| 09:33.58 | neonerz | well |
| 09:34.02 | neonerz | it takes out the pic |
| 09:34.04 | drmessano | I have dialup.. so I only needed a 2801 |
| 09:34.09 | obnauticus | JT we are talking through at least 5 junipers right now |
| 09:34.10 | neonerz | but the other slots stay up |
| 09:34.11 | obnauticus | they might hear you |
| 09:34.19 | drmessano | and an WIC-1-AOL |
| 09:34.20 | neonerz | lol |
| 09:34.28 | neonerz | juniper is the backbone of the internet |
| 09:34.31 | jblack | yeah. |
| 09:34.33 | neonerz | don't believe cisco |
| 09:34.36 | obnauticus | I don't run any Sonet stuff so... |
| 09:34.39 | drmessano | :( |
| 09:34.41 | obnauticus | I don't have any need. |
| 09:34.44 | JT | obnauticus: yeah, i was talking to someone who maintains the junipers for a carrier on the fibre network between usa and australia |
| 09:34.49 | jblack | I dont' feel so bad. the usb wireless-n usb stick works horridly with linux |
| 09:34.50 | drmessano | I love Cisco.. and let me tell you... their phones! |
| 09:34.56 | neonerz | cisco sucks |
| 09:35.00 | neonerz | i hate cisco |
| 09:35.01 | obnauticus | JT i was talking to to someone who manages junipers from Europe to Iran |
| 09:35.03 | obnauticus | then the call disconnected. |
| 09:35.10 | JT | he was telling me that he needed to failover all traffic to one link (there are 2 diverse fibre paths) |
| 09:35.16 | JT | to change a setting on the other one |
| 09:35.20 | drmessano | I use Cisco phones everywhere.. I even have a Cisco cellphone |
| 09:35.31 | obnauticus | JT they are probably EXTREMELY hard to use |
| 09:35.33 | obnauticus | becasue they are like |
| 09:35.35 | JT | not a big fan of cisco |
| 09:35.37 | obnauticus | fail0r safe. |
| 09:35.41 | obnauticus | IOS is sexy |
| 09:35.43 | drmessano | Actually |
| 09:35.45 | obnauticus | at least they maintain it |
| 09:35.48 | neonerz | junos makes more sense then cisco's ios |
| 09:35.49 | drmessano | I hate Cisco phones |
| 09:35.54 | obnauticus | STFU |
| 09:35.57 | neonerz | and its built over unix |
| 09:35.58 | jblack | I have a Cisco router upstairs with a .. csu? or somesuch. |
| 09:36.05 | neonerz | can't go wrong |
| 09:36.08 | obnauticus | I have a Catalyst |
| 09:36.15 | obnauticus | and an Extreme networks Alpine 3808 |
| 09:36.17 | neonerz | I threw away cisco for adtran/netvanta |
| 09:36.21 | jblack | Left over from when I had fiber to the house. It's just sitting on a shelf. I don't even know the password. |
| 09:36.33 | obnauticus | jblack i'll talke it |
| 09:36.37 | drmessano | I have an OC5BILLION RUN DIRECT TO MY ASTERISK BOX |
| 09:36.51 | obnauticus | You know what i have |
| 09:36.55 | obnauticus | Dual wan + failover |
| 09:36.56 | neonerz | catalyst is a necessary evil |
| 09:37.05 | obnauticus | Ya but I liek catalysts |
| 09:37.08 | obnauticus | they look nice and blue |
| 09:37.11 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:37.14 | neonerz | blue? |
| 09:37.15 | drmessano | 2960 yay |
| 09:37.15 | neonerz | green |
| 09:37.18 | neonerz | same difference |
| 09:37.19 | obnauticus | greenish blue |
| 09:37.20 | jblack | obnauticus: you willing to come get it? |
| 09:37.20 | obnauticus | ass |
| 09:37.24 | neonerz | lol |
| 09:37.30 | obnauticus | jblack where are you honey |
| 09:37.36 | JT | jblack: you don't need a pass through if you have physical acces |
| 09:37.36 | obnauticus | your name better not be Chris either. |
| 09:37.42 | obnauticus | ya use Console. |
| 09:37.49 | jblack | wilkes-barre |
| 09:37.50 | drmessano | Use the pretty BLUE cable |
| 09:37.57 | neonerz | lol |
| 09:38.04 | neonerz | ahhh powder blue |
| 09:38.06 | obnauticus | You know what's funny, I saw some guy with the converter for uhh |
| 09:38.11 | neonerz | I'm a fan of the grey ones personally |
| 09:38.23 | JT | i got blue ones for $1 each |
| 09:38.27 | JT | so i'm a fan of them |
| 09:38.27 | JT | ;) |
| 09:38.30 | obnauticus | Cisco console port -> ethernet -> sun Console ethernet converter -> Ethernet -> switch |
| 09:38.32 | drmessano | I still have a few of the old school ones |
| 09:38.45 | obnauticus | I saw that one tiem |
| 09:38.49 | obnauticus | i was like wtf |
| 09:38.56 | neonerz | all you need is a rollover cable and a db9 to rj45 and it can be whatever color you want |
| 09:39.01 | drmessano | LOL |
| 09:39.07 | drmessano | I prefer the newer ones |
| 09:39.07 | JT | obnauticus: what converted it from serial to ethernet? |
| 09:39.12 | obnauticus | I am 16 it was traumatising.. |
| 09:39.19 | obnauticus | JT you know how the blades |
| 09:39.24 | drmessano | So that explains it |
| 09:39.26 | obnauticus | have the ethernet console thing like cisco switches |
| 09:39.29 | obnauticus | the sun blades* |
| 09:39.55 | JT | are we talking about the cisco console port? |
| 09:39.58 | obnauticus | no |
| 09:40.01 | neonerz | @obnauticus you still need to hook the other side up to a com port |
| 09:40.04 | obnauticus | it was going through 2 converters |
| 09:40.08 | obnauticus | no it was in a console switch |
| 09:40.09 | obnauticus | i think |
| 09:40.14 | drmessano | Ive used WinVNC > Hyperterminal > 2621 before LOL |
| 09:40.32 | neonerz | hyperterminal makes me cringe |
| 09:40.37 | drmessano | yeah |
| 09:40.46 | drmessano | Biggest piece of crap ever |
| 09:40.56 | obnauticus | JT this was at IBM in portland, OR |
| 09:40.58 | neonerz | the only thing good about it is its on every 2000/xp box |
| 09:41.04 | drmessano | yep |
| 09:41.06 | obnauticus | I think one of the net admins thought it was funny |
| 09:41.15 | JT | putty.exe can be on there in a few seconds though |
| 09:41.15 | neonerz | they tossed it in vista though |
| 09:41.20 | neonerz | yea |
| 09:41.21 | drmessano | I miss "TERMINAL" from win 3.1 |
| 09:41.22 | JT | and putty does serial now |
| 09:41.25 | JT | which is great |
| 09:41.26 | neonerz | putty = my friend |
| 09:41.33 | obnauticus | JT when hasn't it done serial :\ |
| 09:41.33 | drmessano | putty rocks |
| 09:41.39 | JT | obnauticus: about a year ago |
| 09:41.43 | neonerz | one of those apps that stay on my thumbdrive |
| 09:41.44 | drmessano | Yep |
| 09:41.46 | obnauticus | I don't remember :\ |
| 09:41.51 | jblack | I hated terminal. |
| 09:41.56 | obnauticus | Termy |
| 09:42.12 | drmessano | putty.exe can be EASILY slammed onto a box, especially over a remote session |
| 09:42.22 | jblack | real men run ssh me@there vim file |
| 09:42.27 | JT | i'd love to see the main putty site's download stats |
| 09:42.37 | drmessano | LOL |
| 09:42.40 | jblack | yeah. I'd like to see that too. |
| 09:42.49 | neonerz | jblack for console? |
| 09:42.49 | drmessano | i've downloaded it probably 30 times |
| 09:42.54 | *** join/#asterisk oej (n=olle@soll4-125.cust.blixtvik.net) |
| 09:43.00 | obnauticus | on windows i jsut put it in %WINDIR%\system32 |
| 09:43.02 | jblack | If it weren't for them, I don't see how windows would be good for anything but games.... |
| 09:43.06 | obnauticus | so i can just do start -> run -> putty |
| 09:43.10 | JT | i remember when using putty on some pcs that auto wiped on logout |
| 09:43.15 | JT | so every time i logged in |
| 09:43.17 | JT | i downloaded putty |
| 09:43.26 | drmessano | heh |
| 09:43.27 | obnauticus | on the U3 jump drive you can get portaputty |
| 09:43.37 | jblack | ouch. Pre usb key? |
| 09:43.39 | JT | portaputty? |
| 09:43.43 | jblack | lol |
| 09:43.45 | obnauticus | portable putty |
| 09:43.46 | drmessano | U3 sucks |
| 09:43.47 | obnauticus | standalone |
| 09:43.52 | obnauticus | not if you know how to use it |
| 09:43.52 | JT | i guess i just didn't carry a usb key |
| 09:43.53 | neonerz | isn't putty portaputty by nature? |
| 09:43.56 | obnauticus | it's helpful if you use it like |
| 09:43.59 | drmessano | You can run putty.exe off any USB drive |
| 09:44.06 | neonerz | yea |
| 09:44.06 | obnauticus | neonerz it saves sessions somewhere on the local machine |
| 09:44.12 | JT | oh |
| 09:44.13 | JT | i see |
| 09:44.17 | JT | it saves |
| 09:44.18 | neonerz | you can change that though can't you? |
| 09:44.19 | obnauticus | Yes you do see. |
| 09:44.20 | drmessano | U3 is a waste.. just use portable apps |
| 09:44.25 | neonerz | I know by default it saves to the registry |
| 09:44.27 | JT | what is u3? |
| 09:44.35 | obnauticus | It's a stupid platform wheer |
| 09:44.42 | obnauticus | Cruzer Micro decided it's hilarous |
| 09:44.42 | jblack | united airlines university? |
| 09:44.49 | obnauticus | to put their own partition on the jump drive for a CD drive |
| 09:44.52 | jblack | I wonder if that's anything like McDonald's University |
| 09:44.58 | obnauticus | so when you plug it in it has a differnent partition that looks like an iso image |
| 09:45.03 | obnauticus | filled with stuff that can autorun |
| 09:45.06 | obnauticus | IT's pretty gay |
| 09:45.21 | L4m3r | it's also very easy to get rid of, so no harm done :) |
| 09:45.26 | obnauticus | well |
| 09:45.29 | jblack | Ohhh. Do you mean those "secure jumpdrives" ? |
| 09:45.29 | neonerz | I guess putty doesn't have a setting to change where it saves the sessions |
| 09:45.32 | obnauticus | Ya |
| 09:45.35 | obnauticus | I want the ironkey |
| 09:45.37 | obnauticus | that like |
| 09:45.39 | drmessano | Its sold for a premium, so lame |
| 09:45.44 | obnauticus | destroies it's own sessionkey if you enter 10+ incorrect passwords |
| 09:45.53 | obnauticus | i mean decryption key* |
| 09:45.55 | jblack | I liked the the construction of them, and just wiped that partition out. |
| 09:45.55 | obnauticus | nuts |
| 09:46.30 | neonerz | any of you guys actually ever used a juniper? |
| 09:46.35 | obnauticus | I have |
| 09:46.41 | obnauticus | I am using one right now |
| 09:46.42 | jblack | huh. I have defragged this vista drive 4 times tonight, and each time it takes at least an hour. Sometimes 4. |
| 09:46.49 | neonerz | grrrr |
| 09:46.56 | drmessano | I've used a juniper client :) |
| 09:46.56 | neonerz | should of phrased that question better |
| 09:47.03 | obnauticus | lol |
| 09:47.22 | obnauticus | I was able to use an m20 at some internship at HP |
| 09:47.23 | neonerz | any of you guys ever actually logged into a juniper and configured it? |
| 09:47.27 | jblack | I saw jupiter once, and I wore jumpers as a kid. |
| 09:47.27 | obnauticus | that i did last summer |
| 09:47.30 | obnauticus | yes neoalex. |
| 09:47.33 | obnauticus | neonerz |
| 09:47.34 | neonerz | have you ever used j-web? |
| 09:47.38 | obnauticus | no |
| 09:47.41 | obnauticus | it was very breif |
| 09:47.42 | J4k3 | I have some junipers growing in my front yard |
| 09:47.47 | J4k3 | I'm allergic to them |
| 09:47.55 | jblack | Do they taste... never mind |
| 09:47.56 | neonerz | i'm curious if its worth getting the support contract for it |
| 09:48.00 | drmessano | Im allergic to Cisco phones |
| 09:48.09 | jblack | Why do you live at a place surrounded with flowers you're allergic to? |
| 09:48.12 | obnauticus | neonerz probably not. |
| 09:48.29 | obnauticus | They probably have OS updates and stuff |
| 09:48.33 | neonerz | I was thinking about it for less then technical people to use to look at status |
| 09:48.36 | J4k3 | jblack: they're bushes... and they only make me itch if I get touchy/feely with them |
| 09:48.40 | neonerz | interfaces and the like |
| 09:48.42 | obnauticus | I mean im only going by like the TAC services that Cisco has. |
| 09:49.10 | neonerz | cisco TAC and smartnet sucks |
| 09:49.14 | neonerz | it really does |
| 09:49.22 | obnauticus | ya it does |
| 09:49.26 | obnauticus | but at least it's not full of hicks |
| 09:49.29 | jblack | so plaeiality is definitely out for you? |
| 09:49.32 | neonerz | true |
| 09:49.38 | jblack | shame... I've had some great dates with wormwood |
| 09:49.40 | J4k3 | one never stops buying cisco products |
| 09:49.45 | neonerz | try adtran netvanta routers |
| 09:49.49 | J4k3 | buying a cisco product is just inviting yourself to pay for cisco support. |
| 09:49.50 | neonerz | the ios is almost identical |
| 09:49.57 | neonerz | and their support is top notch |
| 09:50.02 | obnauticus | J4k3 you can just get a CCNE and get the stuff for free |
| 09:50.06 | obnauticus | as long as your CCNE is valid |
| 09:50.14 | obnauticus | I want a CCVP |
| 09:50.15 | J4k3 | obnauticus: or you can be friends with a ccne... ;) |
| 09:50.22 | L4m3r | so anyway, someone directed me here for help with bluetooth and linux... am I in the right place? |
| 09:50.26 | obnauticus | J4k3 that too :) |
| 09:50.29 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 09:50.30 | drmessano | no |
| 09:50.33 | jblack | L4m3r: Nope. |
| 09:50.42 | L4m3r | I didn't think so :P |
| 09:50.42 | obnauticus | join #linux-bluetooth-help |
| 09:50.44 | obnauticus | they will help |
| 09:50.50 | *** join/#asterisk ectospasm (n=ectospas@c-71-207-229-248.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 09:50.51 | L4m3r | thx :) |
| 09:50.54 | drmessano | #gtfo-linux |
| 09:50.56 | jblack | L4m3r: The bluetooth and linux channel is in #openssh |
| 09:51.03 | obnauticus | LMAO |
| 09:51.09 | ectospasm | uh... |
| 09:51.15 | obnauticus | That was worth it |
| 09:51.24 | neonerz | cisco certs are lame - when I was in the cisco networking academy in college my proffessor showed us a paper about "The myth of the paper certificate" |
| 09:51.28 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.ca/888691 |
| 09:51.34 | L4m3r | so what does Tim Riker have to do with this channel? :P |
| 09:51.36 | obnauticus | neonerz no crap. |
| 09:51.39 | obnauticus | They are getting better now |
| 09:51.41 | drmessano | neonerz.. thats communist propaganda |
| 09:51.45 | obnauticus | I have to prep for simulators and stuffn ow |
| 09:51.46 | neonerz | lol |
| 09:51.48 | neonerz | come on |
| 09:51.50 | obnauticus | before they were just like questions |
| 09:51.51 | jblack | Tim Riker.. That sounds familiar... |
| 09:51.53 | obnauticus | now you have the IOS simulators |
| 09:52.08 | neonerz | they tought me about appletalk in the cisco networking accademy |
| 09:52.11 | neonerz | seriously? |
| 09:52.16 | obnauticus | LMAO you too? |
| 09:52.29 | drmessano | Everyone claims certs are so lame, and that employers are caring less about them... thats complete and utter bullshit.. to HR you're just a match of certs and MAYBE + experience |
| 09:52.33 | neonerz | have you EVER used appletalk? |
| 09:52.36 | obnauticus | Never. |
| 09:52.37 | obnauticus | lmao |
| 09:52.48 | neonerz | experience > certs |
| 09:52.52 | drmessano | SO? |
| 09:52.53 | obnauticus | Word up. |
| 09:52.58 | obnauticus | they don't show anything though |
| 09:52.58 | drmessano | Employers want paper |
| 09:53.10 | drmessano | experience can be >>>>>>>> certs |
| 09:53.10 | obnauticus | I want an MCSE/MCSA |
| 09:53.16 | neonerz | last thing I want to see when I am looking for a tech is a lot of certs |
| 09:53.20 | drmessano | Must Call Someone Else? |
| 09:53.29 | obnauticus | Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer |
| 09:53.33 | drmessano | No |
| 09:53.34 | drmessano | Must Call Someone Else? |
| 09:53.47 | drmessano | Its called a "joke" |
| 09:53.47 | neonerz | cert = classroom knowledge |
| 09:53.47 | jblack | Oh, is the US bombing iran yet? |
| 09:53.47 | obnauticus | :| |
| 09:53.48 | neonerz | that doesn't equate in the real world |
| 09:53.49 | L4m3r | When you apply for a job, your papers are all you have. |
| 09:53.50 | obnauticus | no but we are cutting their pron hookups jblack |
| 09:54.07 | L4m3r | no one cares about the real world |
| 09:54.08 | neonerz | its all about the interview |
| 09:54.10 | L4m3r | at least not initially |
| 09:54.13 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 09:54.19 | L4m3r | you have to make it that far, neonerz :) |
| 09:54.25 | drmessano | You cant even get an interview without having this cert and that cert |
| 09:54.27 | obnauticus | http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/01/1912220&from=rss <-- |
| 09:54.36 | L4m3r | drmessano: exactly |
| 09:54.39 | neonerz | come on, next your going to tell me that a A+ is really worth something |
| 09:54.44 | obnauticus | LMAO A+ |
| 09:54.47 | obnauticus | they are supposidly making it harder |
| 09:54.50 | obnauticus | i got one 2 years ago |
| 09:54.52 | neonerz | lol |
| 09:54.53 | drmessano | Maybe for YOU it matters.. youre the ONE they mentioned in Network World, I think |
| 09:54.53 | obnauticus | it was like Pentium 3 stuff |
| 09:55.01 | ectospasm | A+ is bullshit |
| 09:55.05 | obnauticus | dude |
| 09:55.06 | obnauticus | i was 13 |
| 09:55.07 | L4m3r | oh yeah |
| 09:55.09 | obnauticus | no crap it's bullshit |
| 09:55.25 | L4m3r | a high school friend got his A+, I remember, and still asked me for hardware help afterward |
| 09:55.27 | drmessano | A+ isnt a cert, it's a Tic Tac |
| 09:55.38 | obnauticus | A+ is too a cert. |
| 09:55.39 | neonerz | the only thing a CCNA is good for is networking fundemantals |
| 09:55.43 | obnauticus | if you want to work at CompUSA in teh back |
| 09:55.48 | drmessano | obnauticus: "JOKE" |
| 09:55.52 | neonerz | same thing you can learn googling routing protocols |
| 09:55.59 | ectospasm | Only cert I got is dCAP... |
| 09:56.08 | ectospasm | and a lame CS degree |
| 09:56.09 | obnauticus | neonerz MCSE and MCSA are surprisingly hard to get. |
| 09:56.12 | obnauticus | don |
| 09:56.16 | obnauticus | don't underestimate it. |
| 09:56.16 | obnauticus | lol |
| 09:56.19 | neonerz | that I agree |
| 09:56.22 | neonerz | but screw MS |
| 09:56.30 | drmessano | "Must Call Someone Else" and "Must Call Someone Advanced" |
| 09:56.33 | drmessano | lol |
| 09:56.47 | obnauticus | Fail. |
| 09:57.12 | drmessano | Microsoft certs are shit.. who needs license to admin windows? |
| 09:57.14 | neonerz | the only reason I had to get a bunch of avaya and cisco certs was because my company is partners with them and we need a certian amount of certs to keep our status |
| 09:57.18 | obnauticus | I think the US is cutting Iran's internet to steal porn |
| 09:57.23 | neonerz | that just shows you how much bs it is |
| 09:57.25 | ectospasm | I remember I heard about some other intern at the place I was working, wanted to drop out and just get his MCSE. We were like,"What an idiot." |
| 09:57.31 | *** join/#asterisk ZX81_ (n=ZX81@202.20.97.211) |
| 09:57.41 | neonerz | ectospasm: lol |
| 09:57.46 | obnauticus | lol. |
| 09:57.52 | obnauticus | That's like some other dude i talked to on IRC |
| 09:57.57 | *** join/#asterisk amorphka (n=izeke98@84.224.19.0) |
| 09:58.11 | obnauticus | He said he dropped outta college to play McDonolds monopoly |
| 09:58.22 | neonerz | lol |
| 09:58.23 | neonerz | come on |
| 09:58.30 | obnauticus | IF I get a job in IT |
| 09:58.33 | obnauticus | i will shoot myself |
| 09:58.34 | ectospasm | now that's someone with a serious mental problem if they weren't joking |
| 09:58.45 | neonerz | obnauticus: I agree |
| 09:58.48 | obnauticus | they were probably joking, or at least i hope so it was pretty funny., |
| 09:58.55 | neonerz | I see the IT director at my office |
| 09:59.02 | neonerz | and thank every day I went the carrier route |
| 09:59.03 | obnauticus | Fatass? |
| 09:59.07 | neonerz | no |
| 09:59.10 | obnauticus | Nuts. |
| 09:59.11 | neonerz | the questions he gets |
| 09:59.13 | neonerz | well yes |
| 09:59.15 | amorphka | Need help: got BLUE/YELLOW alarm, Does anyone know what does it mean? I run Asterik 1.4, Digium TE120P on ISDN PRI |
| 09:59.20 | neonerz | but more about the questions he gets |
| 09:59.32 | ectospasm | amorphka: blue alarm is very rare, but it's a telco issue |
| 09:59.33 | neonerz | "my send button is missing in outlook" |
| 09:59.34 | drmessano | Working in IT completely sucks |
| 09:59.36 | obnauticus | amorphka Blue/Yellow alarm, means you miust replace the Cyan, and yellow ink. |
| 09:59.37 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 09:59.44 | drmessano | "My toolbar is gone" |
| 09:59.53 | neonerz | "I ran this program i got in a random email 3 times and nothing happened" |
| 09:59.54 | obnauticus | my password no workie! caps lock is on nubtard. |
| 09:59.57 | drmessano | "Where is the Start button on the keyboard?" |
| 10:00.13 | ectospasm | drmessano: the Windows-logo key! |
| 10:00.15 | neonerz | my computer is broken, all it shows is a blank screen |
| 10:00.17 | amorphka | am I on the #asterisk channel? |
| 10:00.21 | obnauticus | No. |
| 10:00.21 | neonerz | did you try turning on the screen |
| 10:00.24 | ectospasm | amorphka: yes |
| 10:00.30 | neonerz | that worked! |
| 10:00.34 | ectospasm | amorphka: 5AM EST |
| 10:00.36 | obnauticus | neonerz the cd tray is not a cup holder. |
| 10:00.37 | drmessano | Oh |
| 10:00.44 | ectospasm | don't expect seriousness here at this time |
| 10:00.50 | amorphka | :) |
| 10:00.52 | amorphka | ok |
| 10:00.57 | obnauticus | My mom asks me those questions |
| 10:01.02 | ectospasm | amorphka: but I will try to help if I can |
| 10:01.04 | amorphka | but i have serious problem |
| 10:01.06 | obnauticus | but meanwhile i actually manage a lot of clients for a home network lol. |
| 10:01.07 | amorphka | ok |
| 10:01.13 | drmessano | "I think my monitor is broken.. I turned it on and its still black" "Did you hit the space bar to to bring it out of power save?" "Oh" |
| 10:01.14 | neonerz | yea amorphka I gave up an hour ago |
| 10:01.26 | neonerz | dont get me started about family and IT help |
| 10:01.36 | neonerz | they think just because you knwo how to use a computer |
| 10:01.37 | drmessano | Dad "My ebay is down" |
| 10:01.37 | amorphka | oh my! #asterisk was my last chance! |
| 10:01.39 | neonerz | they dont have to |
| 10:01.53 | neonerz | amorphka: whats the problem? |
| 10:02.12 | amorphka | ok |
| 10:02.15 | amorphka | tell you the detaiks |
| 10:02.19 | amorphka | details |
| 10:02.28 | obnauticus | The saddest part about me is, i know other guys that do the same stuff, and tehy don't even know how to subnet. |
| 10:02.39 | neonerz | why dont you give me a overview so I could see if I could even help |
| 10:02.54 | neonerz | dont get me started about most IT consultants |
| 10:03.07 | obnauticus | IT consultants are funny. |
| 10:03.07 | neonerz | I tell him the ip block we are giving them is 1.2.3.4/29 |
| 10:03.08 | amorphka | I got a Digium TE120P one span card connected to a ISDN PRI channel |
| 10:03.20 | neonerz | and they tell me I'm stupid because they need more then one IP |
| 10:03.29 | obnauticus | I watched a guy try to set the DHCP range in his client subnet to like 1 to 395 |
| 10:03.33 | obnauticus | and im like, this is not ipv4,5 |
| 10:03.40 | amorphka | but zttool always telling me that BLUE/YELLOW alarm is on |
| 10:03.44 | neonerz | you could stop right there, I don't do any SIP to TDM converstion |
| 10:03.46 | drmessano | ipv5 |
| 10:03.51 | drmessano | ipv5 goes to 999 |
| 10:03.55 | neonerz | obnauticus: lol |
| 10:04.06 | obnauticus | http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/1/ipv45.png |
| 10:04.31 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:04.34 | drmessano | Law and Order has it too |
| 10:04.35 | obnauticus | I lol'd. |
| 10:04.38 | obnauticus | It does? |
| 10:04.48 | drmessano | Yeah, they did a 325 or something too |
| 10:04.52 | obnauticus | :( |
| 10:04.56 | drmessano | 325.something |
| 10:05.00 | obnauticus | it's this kidn of stuff that gets me out of bed in the morning |
| 10:05.01 | obnauticus | lol. |
| 10:05.04 | drmessano | I forget now.. it was bad |
| 10:05.15 | obnauticus | Like on the most recent Die HArd |
| 10:05.21 | obnauticus | Some stuff isn't connected to the internet! |
| 10:05.23 | obnauticus | WHATAYTA!!?!? |
| 10:05.43 | obnauticus | f1r3s@l3! |
| 10:07.10 | *** part/#asterisk L4m3r (n=l4m3r@about/essy/warning/L4m3r) |
| 10:07.46 | neonerz | I had a good pick of a carrier who I wont name's cage next to mine |
| 10:07.50 | neonerz | but I can't find it |
| 10:08.02 | neonerz | most carriers are worse then IT consultants |
| 10:08.09 | obnauticus | duh? |
| 10:08.24 | obnauticus | I still cannot believe that most DOCSIS systems within the united states are on 1.1-2.0 |
| 10:08.35 | neonerz | I was trouble shooting a issue for a hour and a half |
| 10:08.49 | neonerz | just to find out savvis forgot to add our new blocks to their routing registry |
| 10:09.00 | obnauticus | hh |
| 10:09.02 | neonerz | so they weren't sending back the data |
| 10:09.06 | obnauticus | isn't it automated now-a-days? |
| 10:09.13 | neonerz | you would think |
| 10:09.35 | neonerz | all you have to do is email route-r@savvis.net or something like that |
| 10:09.42 | neonerz | and its supposed to do it for you |
| 10:09.53 | neonerz | got the email confirmation and everything |
| 10:10.21 | neonerz | you would think a company that routes like 25% of the worlds internet traffic could do something as simple as loading a ip block |
| 10:10.35 | J4k3 | good lord, somebody still gives savvis money? |
| 10:10.46 | obnauticus | Your ISP probably does? |
| 10:11.00 | J4k3 | my routing to savvis from AT&T blows |
| 10:11.03 | obnauticus | I gotta get cogent to trench a line out to my house. |
| 10:11.03 | neonerz | then again this is the same company that fought me for a week that my BGP session was messed up, only to find out they forgot to enable the session on their end |
| 10:11.06 | J4k3 | and, in reality, I never care. |
| 10:11.26 | neonerz | obnauticus: heh I just spoke with cogent today |
| 10:11.35 | obnauticus | They are pretty reliable. |
| 10:11.40 | neonerz | yea |
| 10:11.42 | J4k3 | I *was* a savvis customer... the 8 hours-a-week downtime got old. |
| 10:11.49 | obnauticus | Lmao. |
| 10:11.53 | neonerz | they are offering us $10 a meg over a fiber link in our colo |
| 10:12.03 | J4k3 | always friday, at about 4pm |
| 10:12.03 | neonerz | j4k3 don't get me started |
| 10:12.10 | J4k3 | somebody loved their overtime |
| 10:12.16 | neonerz | I get "emergency maintance" emails like ones a week |
| 10:12.18 | obnauticus | how much do you pay for you colo neonerz |
| 10:12.28 | neonerz | I only pay for the power |
| 10:12.33 | neonerz | we have a deal with XO |
| 10:12.37 | obnauticus | k |
| 10:12.45 | neonerz | its expensive in NY though |
| 10:12.55 | obnauticus | ya because of realistate |
| 10:12.58 | obnauticus | and then on top of utilities |
| 10:12.59 | neonerz | jersey we pay like $500 a month or something |
| 10:13.02 | obnauticus | nuts. |
| 10:13.06 | obnauticus | Well i just need good termination |
| 10:13.06 | neonerz | and the xconnects are cheap |
| 10:13.07 | obnauticus | and im fine. |
| 10:13.28 | neonerz | 60 hudson street in NYC wanted something like $900 a month |
| 10:13.28 | obnauticus | Hopefully Docsis3 will come soon |
| 10:13.33 | obnauticus | and i can get 120/160mbps |
| 10:13.37 | neonerz | we like $250 a xconnect |
| 10:13.47 | J4k3 | neonerz: I still get those and I haven't been a savvis customer in 2 years :) |
| 10:13.53 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:13.54 | obnauticus | How is Teliasonera? |
| 10:14.00 | obnauticus | I seriously have never used them |
| 10:14.28 | obnauticus | or are they oly in eu |
| 10:14.29 | neonerz | never used them |
| 10:14.30 | obnauticus | roper |
| 10:14.41 | neonerz | they are a ireland company it seems |
| 10:15.02 | neonerz | or do I equate baltic to ireland incorrectly? |
| 10:15.11 | obnauticus | I dunno |
| 10:15.15 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:15.20 | JT | $900, what does that get you? a full rack? |
| 10:15.31 | obnauticus | a 47U or something lol |
| 10:15.33 | neonerz | yea in their meet me room |
| 10:15.54 | neonerz | but you could touch almost everyone carrier in the world |
| 10:16.00 | neonerz | every* |
| 10:16.02 | obnauticus | I think the ghetto stuff at those colo centers are funny |
| 10:16.13 | obnauticus | it's a mixture of different techniques for .. doing stuff |
| 10:16.26 | neonerz | yea |
| 10:16.27 | obnauticus | i once saw a desktop just sitting inside the rack in one of them |
| 10:16.30 | obnauticus | or a couple of them |
| 10:16.31 | obnauticus | stacked |
| 10:16.32 | J4k3 | heh, I colo'd with focal who sold to broadwing... broadwing brought in the ghetto... of course the colo was in a ghetto building in a ghetto neighborhood. |
| 10:16.33 | obnauticus | i was like |
| 10:16.34 | obnauticus | uhh |
| 10:16.37 | obnauticus | y9ou're doing it wrong |
| 10:16.42 | neonerz | I hated Focal |
| 10:16.49 | neonerz | I hated Broadwing even more |
| 10:16.54 | J4k3 | focal was ok-ish |
| 10:16.55 | neonerz | and now that Level 3 bought them |
| 10:17.00 | neonerz | don't get me started on LEvel 3 |
| 10:17.03 | J4k3 | broadwing was a dick-around since day 1 |
| 10:17.07 | neonerz | I hated focal support |
| 10:17.12 | neonerz | and their order intervals |
| 10:17.17 | obnauticus | how bad is L3 |
| 10:17.18 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:17.20 | J4k3 | yeah, their order intervals were retarded |
| 10:17.26 | JT | heh |
| 10:17.30 | obnauticus | Sean connary on their commerical almost fooled me |
| 10:17.31 | J4k3 | "I'm fucking colo'd, what the fuck" - me |
| 10:17.37 | neonerz | L3 is going strictly carrier |
| 10:17.38 | JT | dont get my started on ghetto colo |
| 10:17.43 | J4k3 | (to my focal salesperson after they told me it'd be like 12 days to turn up a PRI) |
| 10:17.51 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:17.54 | JT | there's this one full rack for some company |
| 10:18.03 | JT | that just has a 1RU sun server in the middle |
| 10:18.09 | obnauticus | uhh |
| 10:18.14 | J4k3 | SBC could get me PRI's 4500 cable feet away in 4 days |
| 10:18.16 | JT | and a imacesque sata raid box on top |
| 10:18.17 | obnauticus | i'll take a picture the next time i go |
| 10:18.20 | obnauticus | it was a few full ATX cases |
| 10:18.23 | obnauticus | stacked up inside a cage |
| 10:18.27 | obnauticus | 4 of them |
| 10:18.30 | obnauticus | i lol'd |
| 10:18.33 | J4k3 | and they could barely get me a pri in 2 weeks over about 75 ft of wire. |
| 10:18.35 | JT | but this was a total waste of a rack |
| 10:18.40 | JT | 1RU + sata box |
| 10:18.42 | neonerz | I got a rack in jersey with just a m20 sitting in it |
| 10:18.42 | obnauticus | So was this? |
| 10:18.46 | JT | yeah |
| 10:18.53 | JT | atxes are even more common |
| 10:18.54 | neonerz | so Paetec can hand me off DS3's |
| 10:18.59 | obnauticus | JT i mean |
| 10:19.02 | obnauticus | they were like stacked inside the rack |
| 10:19.03 | neonerz | and I can bring them to NY |
| 10:19.04 | obnauticus | it was ridiculous |
| 10:19.12 | JT | connected? |
| 10:19.17 | obnauticus | not racked |
| 10:19.18 | obnauticus | like |
| 10:19.20 | J4k3 | the shelf in the rack 'upside down' with the mobo underneath... I figured up I could have thrown about 60 of them in the rack no problem |
| 10:19.26 | obnauticus | litterally placed on ontop of the other |
| 10:19.30 | JT | yeah. stacked, were they plugged in? |
| 10:19.31 | obnauticus | like cardboard boxen |
| 10:19.33 | obnauticus | yes. |
| 10:19.34 | obnauticus | lmao |
| 10:19.35 | neonerz | j4k3 lol wtf? |
| 10:19.36 | JT | ok |
| 10:19.43 | JT | i've seen racks used as storage |
| 10:19.44 | J4k3 | neonerz: 1U without overheating problems |
| 10:19.51 | JT | hell i store an unused switch in mine |
| 10:19.52 | J4k3 | the AC blew up throgh the floor VERY fast |
| 10:19.52 | neonerz | true |
| 10:19.55 | JT | as well as a take away menu |
| 10:19.57 | obnauticus | JT i think it was a production envrionment. |
| 10:20.00 | JT | and a dozen spare patch cables |
| 10:20.04 | obnauticus | it looked like they put SOMe effort into it |
| 10:20.07 | obnauticus | but it was so ghetto |
| 10:20.15 | J4k3 | I had a 15" CRT in my colo for a while |
| 10:20.21 | obnauticus | a lotr of people do that |
| 10:20.22 | J4k3 | sitting on top of an ancient old cisco 4500 |
| 10:20.22 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:20.23 | J4k3 | (it was in use) |
| 10:20.29 | JT | it's also hilarious how there's not enough power and cooling in most datacentres for blade servers |
| 10:20.39 | JT | so there's full racks, with just 1 or 2 blade servers in the middle |
| 10:20.40 | obnauticus | I never worked with a bldae. |
| 10:20.48 | *** join/#asterisk d-k-t (n=dt@125.120.139.9) |
| 10:20.48 | neonerz | I have a 14 lcd, and I want to get a pullout one, but can't justify $1400 for a 14 inch monitor |
| 10:21.05 | obnauticus | neonerz a lot of the time they have KVM switches integrated! |
| 10:21.07 | JT | i've gotten away with no screen or keyboard in the datacentre so far |
| 10:21.13 | JT | but i should probably get a set... |
| 10:21.24 | obnauticus | a lot of centers provide a maintainence cart |
| 10:21.25 | obnauticus | you know |
| 10:21.28 | neonerz | we got XO in one of our colo's to put a air conditioning unit behind it |
| 10:21.29 | obnauticus | one that you can push around |
| 10:21.31 | obnauticus | with stuff on it |
| 10:21.38 | JT | yeah the other one where i have only 1RU has a kvm cart |
| 10:21.39 | JT | not this one |
| 10:21.44 | obnauticus | wtf |
| 10:21.51 | JT | wrong environment |
| 10:21.55 | neonerz | obnauticus: most of the stuff I have in my racks are switches and routers, maybe one, two servers max |
| 10:21.59 | JT | lots of suites with lots of cages |
| 10:22.07 | JT | they can't provide kvm carts for everyone |
| 10:22.47 | JT | customer responsibility |
| 10:22.47 | obnauticus | not many people are in there at the same time though |
| 10:22.47 | obnauticus | i mean |
| 10:22.47 | J4k3 | focal's colo... you had to beg somebody for an equipment dolly and/or a chair |
| 10:22.47 | JT | but people will just leave them in their cage |
| 10:22.48 | JT | and other people wont be able to access it |
| 10:22.48 | J4k3 | an equipment cart? hell, they didn't even have equipment for themselves. |
| 10:22.48 | obnauticus | J4k3 lmao |
| 10:22.50 | neonerz | j4k3 you think thats bad? I had to beg XO for months for the bathroom code |
| 10:22.55 | obnauticus | mine had a cart |
| 10:22.57 | obnauticus | and if i remember |
| 10:22.59 | neonerz | they wouldn't give it to me |
| 10:23.07 | JT | haha |
| 10:23.10 | obnauticus | they had a bathroom really close. |
| 10:23.13 | obnauticus | but i don't know |
| 10:23.14 | J4k3 | neonerz: piss in an air conditioner. |
| 10:23.15 | obnauticus | it was really nice. |
| 10:23.20 | JT | i like going to the bathroom at this datacentre |
| 10:23.23 | neonerz | I almost wanted to |
| 10:23.24 | JT | granite floor and countertop |
| 10:23.30 | JT | stainless fittings |
| 10:23.34 | neonerz | during the day it wasn't bad, because there were XO techs around |
| 10:23.41 | neonerz | but when I had to do overnight maintance |
| 10:23.43 | J4k3 | heh, focal's colo always had blow residue on the sink counter. |
| 10:23.43 | neonerz | it would suck |
| 10:23.48 | obnauticus | JT if it wern't nice |
| 10:23.51 | neonerz | all the floors had locked bathrooms |
| 10:23.51 | obnauticus | they would just pee into the floor |
| 10:24.01 | JT | heh |
| 10:24.05 | neonerz | J4k3: ROFL |
| 10:24.06 | obnauticus | think about that |
| 10:24.07 | obnauticus | some dude |
| 10:24.11 | obnauticus | takinga dump inside the bottom of their cage |
| 10:24.13 | obnauticus | and locking itu p |
| 10:24.18 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:24.19 | JT | rofl |
| 10:24.21 | neonerz | crazy |
| 10:24.24 | obnauticus | i know |
| 10:24.26 | obnauticus | they would be like |
| 10:24.29 | *** join/#asterisk Steven_elvisda_ (n=Steven_E@202.47.107.60) |
| 10:24.29 | obnauticus | where the hell is that comming from |
| 10:24.30 | JT | wonder if underfloor moisture detection will be set off |
| 10:24.37 | obnauticus | put it in a uhh |
| 10:24.39 | obnauticus | i dunno |
| 10:24.40 | neonerz | intersting thought |
| 10:24.43 | obnauticus | make sure it doesn't leak |
| 10:24.45 | neonerz | and how fast |
| 10:24.53 | obnauticus | can you spit on it and it will go off? |
| 10:24.57 | obnauticus | never tried it |
| 10:25.07 | neonerz | doubtful |
| 10:25.11 | J4k3 | I found all sorts of elite loot under the floor at focal's colo |
| 10:25.12 | JT | anyway |
| 10:25.14 | neonerz | but if you took a piss on it..... |
| 10:25.20 | obnauticus | i wanna do that now |
| 10:25.20 | J4k3 | peered with one of the neighboring racks without their approval |
| 10:25.20 | JT | i am not taking a dump in the cage |
| 10:25.23 | obnauticus | take a crap inside my cage |
| 10:25.26 | obnauticus | and lock it |
| 10:25.26 | obnauticus | lmao |
| 10:25.30 | J4k3 | I was within short cat5 jumper reach... screw them |
| 10:25.47 | neonerz | J4k3: focal made you pay for intercolo xconnects? |
| 10:25.53 | JT | J4k3: only lame datacentres need approval/money for cross connects |
| 10:26.06 | J4k3 | I thought about jacking into the distance learning/educational internet crap on the other end of the room... I always wondered if I plugged into one of their switches if I'd just dhcp and go |
| 10:26.11 | J4k3 | or set off alarms. |
| 10:26.18 | niekie | * |
| 10:26.20 | J4k3 | JT: focal = ghetto *and* lame colo |
| 10:26.23 | obnauticus | more than likely set off alarms. |
| 10:26.24 | JT | reminds me of equinix sydney |
| 10:26.27 | JT | crap colo |
| 10:26.31 | neonerz | jt: not internal xconnects, but off the floor you have to pay for it |
| 10:26.32 | JT | charge for everything |
| 10:26.35 | JT | every cross connect |
| 10:26.40 | neonerz | xconnects are where colo's make money |
| 10:26.41 | JT | and their facilites suck |
| 10:26.44 | JT | heh |
| 10:26.46 | J4k3 | yes jt, yes! |
| 10:26.54 | obnauticus | equinix looked good |
| 10:26.55 | obnauticus | to me |
| 10:26.55 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 10:26.57 | JT | global switch do not charge for cross connects, ever |
| 10:27.06 | neonerz | where is global switch? |
| 10:27.10 | JT | obnauticus: apparently their sydney facility is much lower standard than most US ones |
| 10:27.15 | JT | neonerz: globalswitch.com |
| 10:27.16 | obnauticus | oh |
| 10:27.19 | JT | i'm in the sydney one |
| 10:27.24 | obnauticus | JT i heard their NY one was good |
| 10:27.28 | obnauticus | it was eitehr in NY or NJ |
| 10:27.28 | JT | they are the most elite colo place ever |
| 10:27.31 | obnauticus | i don't remember. |
| 10:27.39 | JT | ridiculous redundancy |
| 10:27.43 | neonerz | 60 hudson street NY = the most elite |
| 10:27.48 | JT | at the moment they have 10 * 2.2MVA generators |
| 10:27.54 | JT | upgrading to 22 * 2.2MVA soon |
| 10:27.56 | neonerz | you can get ANYWHERE in the world from there |
| 10:28.01 | neonerz | all a xconnect away |
| 10:28.13 | JT | california is better for connectivity to australia and the pacific |
| 10:28.36 | obnauticus | depends who your provider is |
| 10:28.38 | neonerz | 60 hudson is the hub for the east coast |
| 10:28.42 | obnauticus | who knows what you are getting it could be routed to the east coast |
| 10:28.43 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:28.43 | JT | not really |
| 10:28.51 | obnauticus | JT we're talking ghetto here |
| 10:28.52 | JT | all the cables land on the west coast |
| 10:28.56 | JT | california and oregon |
| 10:28.59 | obnauticus | ya |
| 10:29.03 | obnauticus | I'm near portland |
| 10:29.18 | obnauticus | I dunno what seattle has :\ |
| 10:29.20 | JT | there's a leg of the southern cross cable going to oregon |
| 10:29.24 | J4k3 | obnauticus: rain |
| 10:29.29 | obnauticus | J4k3 so? |
| 10:29.29 | JT | the other leg goes to CA |
| 10:29.54 | J4k3 | seattle is an ash hole! |
| 10:29.56 | neonerz | I don't know, I've made it to india and farther from 60 hudson |
| 10:29.59 | obnauticus | no it's not |
| 10:30.01 | obnauticus | seattle are leet |
| 10:30.18 | JT | latency wise, ca is the best choice for connecting to the pacific |
| 10:30.19 | neonerz | telecom sucks anyway |
| 10:30.30 | JT | i get 160ms or so to he.net |
| 10:30.35 | JT | from global switch sydney |
| 10:30.40 | JT | that's over 15000km |
| 10:31.08 | obnauticus | that's still pretty high |
| 10:31.12 | JT | not really |
| 10:31.15 | JT | return trip time |
| 10:31.21 | neonerz | where is he.net? |
| 10:31.23 | J4k3 | the speed of light is a bitch |
| 10:31.26 | J4k3 | BEND IT |
| 10:31.28 | neonerz | LOL |
| 10:31.28 | JT | you don't see many pings under that for au to us |
| 10:31.31 | JT | neonerz: CA |
| 10:31.52 | neonerz | JT give me an IP |
| 10:32.04 | JT | try pacific.net.au |
| 10:32.05 | neonerz | you got me curious |
| 10:32.14 | JT | that's somewhere else in global switch |
| 10:32.27 | obnauticus | time=251ms |
| 10:32.27 | obnauticus | ew |
| 10:33.25 | JT | --- he.net ping statistics --- |
| 10:33.25 | JT | 9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% packet loss, time 8000ms |
| 10:33.25 | JT | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 154.722/155.189/156.362/0.711 ms |
| 10:34.00 | neonerz | I ride savvis out there, but I was averaging around 200ms |
| 10:34.06 | JT | hmm |
| 10:34.08 | obnauticus | ride |
| 10:34.08 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:34.10 | J4k3 | at least you're not riding cox |
| 10:34.16 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:34.19 | obnauticus | J4k3 at least you're not riding comcast. |
| 10:34.27 | obnauticus | i don't ride comcast |
| 10:34.28 | obnauticus | they ride me |
| 10:34.35 | neonerz | but comcast has a all fiber network |
| 10:34.35 | obnauticus | with their damn sandvine crap |
| 10:34.35 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:34.43 | obnauticus | no crap they do |
| 10:34.43 | neonerz | I love those commercials |
| 10:34.44 | obnauticus | so does Cox |
| 10:34.47 | J4k3 | all fiber network |
| 10:34.47 | JT | to give you an idea how close i am to pacific.net.au |
| 10:34.49 | JT | --- pacific.net.au ping statistics --- |
| 10:34.49 | JT | 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9001ms |
| 10:34.49 | JT | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.617/1.309/5.435/1.394 ms |
| 10:34.53 | J4k3 | so it can (take a) shit regularly |
| 10:34.55 | obnauticus | It's called an HFC |
| 10:35.05 | obnauticus | Split to like 500 coustomers |
| 10:35.10 | obnauticus | 1 OC3 |
| 10:35.13 | neonerz | thats pretty close |
| 10:35.33 | J4k3 | hfc, docsis 2... 40mbit split to half your town |
| 10:35.40 | neonerz | oc3 = 500? |
| 10:35.46 | neonerz | isn't more like 2 and change |
| 10:35.50 | JT | man, if you are on decent carriers in global switch sydney or equinix sydney you get decent pings |
| 10:35.51 | obnauticus | well |
| 10:35.56 | obnauticus | in some big cities the nodes haul their connections |
| 10:35.59 | obnauticus | over like an OC48 |
| 10:36.02 | obnauticus | to the nearest OC192 |
| 10:36.04 | obnauticus | or something like that |
| 10:36.08 | obnauticus | where they can route it more and savem oney |
| 10:36.11 | JT | i get 2ms between equinix and global switch |
| 10:36.13 | obnauticus | route moar! |
| 10:36.16 | JT | crossing different carriers |
| 10:36.25 | JT | they're only about 15km apart though |
| 10:36.32 | neonerz | oh you don't mean 500 customers off the oc3 |
| 10:36.41 | neonerz | just using the oc3 for transport? |
| 10:36.51 | obnauticus | Ya |
| 10:36.58 | obnauticus | connected to the CMTS |
| 10:37.00 | obnauticus | or something like that |
| 10:37.02 | obnauticus | it's a wacky system |
| 10:37.11 | neonerz | whos as 7374? |
| 10:37.12 | obnauticus | It makes less sense than the name DSLAM |
| 10:37.52 | neonerz | oh obnauticus your talking DSL? |
| 10:37.56 | obnauticus | no |
| 10:37.57 | obnauticus | i just said the name |
| 10:37.59 | obnauticus | what happens is |
| 10:38.14 | neonerz | ohhh |
| 10:38.16 | neonerz | I got you |
| 10:38.18 | obnauticus | the connection is hauled over an OC3 to like 500 coustomers where it connects to like an HFC |
| 10:38.39 | obnauticus | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/HFC_Network_Diagram.png |
| 10:38.50 | neonerz | I'm just saying a oc3 is 252 channels |
| 10:39.03 | obnauticus | i don't know |
| 10:39.09 | obnauticus | i was told OC3 by a comcast engineer |
| 10:39.23 | neonerz | oh I got you |
| 10:39.34 | obnauticus | They say fiber powered network jsut to not loose their coustomers to FiOS |
| 10:39.37 | obnauticus | they don't mean fiber termination |
| 10:39.41 | neonerz | they are probably breaking up the circuit with PVC's |
| 10:39.42 | obnauticus | because they are fags. |
| 10:39.44 | JT | neonerz: valuserve.com it looks |
| 10:39.46 | neonerz | not just TDM |
| 10:39.55 | obnauticus | i have no clue |
| 10:40.02 | obnauticus | Cocmast does their stuff really... unique like. |
| 10:40.06 | neonerz | valueserve is 7374? |
| 10:40.12 | JT | seems so |
| 10:40.24 | neonerz | yea, its a shame the company sucks |
| 10:40.24 | *** join/#asterisk MACscr (n=Mark@adsl-75-17-77-50.dsl.peoril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:40.37 | neonerz | I never delt with them on the wholesale side |
| 10:40.39 | obnauticus | I've only seen the fiber powered network ads in areas which FiOS exists |
| 10:40.49 | neonerz | but I have heard horror stories from residental customers |
| 10:40.54 | neonerz | yea |
| 10:41.00 | neonerz | but the whole thing is bs |
| 10:41.04 | obnauticus | It's true |
| 10:41.15 | neonerz | there's no such thing as a carrier that size who isn't fully riding fiber |
| 10:41.16 | obnauticus | but the coustomers don't think the termiantion speed. |
| 10:41.17 | JT | neonerz: |
| 10:41.18 | JT | This AS is not currently in use. |
| 10:41.23 | neonerz | hell most small carriers ride it also |
| 10:41.30 | neonerz | heh |
| 10:41.32 | neonerz | 7473 |
| 10:41.32 | J4k3 | you make a POTS call these days |
| 10:41.34 | J4k3 | you're riding fiber |
| 10:41.38 | obnauticus | well deurrz |
| 10:41.39 | neonerz | yea |
| 10:41.44 | neonerz | thats my point |
| 10:41.46 | obnauticus | why do you guys say riding? |
| 10:41.47 | obnauticus | wtf |
| 10:41.55 | neonerz | comcast implies they have been using fiber longer then VZ |
| 10:41.58 | MACscr | i have a polycom 330 behind nat and that phone needs to have two extensions, but to the same asterisk server. Is it fine that they both are assigned port 5060? I cant for the life of me get the second extension to register. Even though it should be duplicate information, just different extension numbers |
| 10:42.06 | JT | neonerz: Information for AS7473 |
| 10:42.08 | obnauticus | VZ? |
| 10:42.08 | JT | SINGTEL-AS-AP / APNIC ASN block (website: www.singtel.com) |
| 10:42.19 | JT | neonerz: you seeing that on the trip to aust? |
| 10:42.25 | neonerz | yea |
| 10:42.27 | neonerz | just curious |
| 10:42.28 | JT | yeah |
| 10:42.31 | JT | singtel own Optus |
| 10:42.36 | JT | second biggest telco in .au |
| 10:42.41 | neonerz | all the latency comes from when savvis hands it off to them |
| 10:42.46 | JT | one of the biggest capacity holders on southern cross cable network |
| 10:43.01 | JT | that's the 13000km undersea cable |
| 10:43.02 | JT | or so |
| 10:43.16 | JT | actually it's got to be at least 15000km, it's not a straight line |
| 10:43.30 | J4k3 | watch out for boat anchors |
| 10:43.35 | JT | heh |
| 10:43.37 | obnauticus | JT did you just look at the map and see the fact it was curved aroudn the earth? |
| 10:43.38 | neonerz | I had a chance to work on the transatlantic cable boats a couple years ago |
| 10:43.39 | JT | they have that sorted |
| 10:43.41 | neonerz | paid good money |
| 10:43.53 | JT | they have 2 seperate legs |
| 10:43.56 | neonerz | but it was like 6 months at sea a clip |
| 10:44.03 | JT | seperated by over 2000km in the middle |
| 10:44.14 | JT | both legs join to new zealand |
| 10:44.18 | obnauticus | Do the ships have to pay for that? |
| 10:44.19 | JT | one leg joins to fiji |
| 10:44.26 | JT | and both legs join at hawaii |
| 10:44.32 | JT | before going to oregon and california |
| 10:44.36 | neonerz | do the ships pay for what? |
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| 10:44.51 | obnauticus | if they cut the wire |
| 10:44.52 | obnauticus | howd o they know |
| 10:44.53 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:45.05 | J4k3 | sea cops |
| 10:45.07 | J4k3 | pull them over |
| 10:45.08 | J4k3 | *woo* |
| 10:45.12 | obnauticus | Why isn't my cell phone working? |
| 10:45.13 | obnauticus | lmao |
| 10:45.29 | neonerz | The ship would have to be pretty far underwater to hit the transatlantic cabling |
| 10:45.35 | J4k3 | cuz you have a cellphone using G(i)SM |
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| 10:45.41 | obnauticus | maybe it was a submerine anchor |
| 10:45.43 | J4k3 | neonerz: anchors |
| 10:45.44 | obnauticus | that cut the wire |
| 10:45.46 | obnauticus | think about that? |
| 10:45.48 | JT | they're upgrading the DWDM on southern cross |
| 10:45.54 | neonerz | those things are pretty safe |
| 10:46.00 | JT | would have to be even further underwater for the pacific |
| 10:46.09 | neonerz | they are made to withstand tons of pressure and live for 30+ years |
| 10:46.11 | JT | much of the cable sits under 2500metres of water |
| 10:46.15 | obnauticus | I still think the US Military cut the wire in Iran to steal pronz. |
| 10:46.23 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:46.25 | JT | what ships have 2.5km anchor chains? |
| 10:46.33 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:46.34 | obnauticus | me |
| 10:46.40 | neonerz | true |
| 10:46.45 | J4k3 | I blame mermaids with sawzalls |
| 10:46.46 | JT | all the stuff near shore is wire armoured |
| 10:47.00 | JT | and buried |
| 10:47.23 | JT | and it's a federal crime to drop anchor in the cable protection zones |
| 10:47.26 | neonerz | the whole cable is buried and mostly armored |
| 10:47.30 | obnauticus | JT is is? |
| 10:47.37 | JT | in australia it is |
| 10:47.37 | obnauticus | cable protection zones, i didn't know they even existed. |
| 10:47.44 | J4k3 | "no wake" |
| 10:47.48 | obnauticus | oh |
| 10:47.52 | obnauticus | i don't boat... |
| 10:47.52 | neonerz | I've never heard of that either |
| 10:47.55 | JT | we have cable protection zones going a few km out to see, around each of the landing points |
| 10:47.55 | neonerz | makes sense though |
| 10:47.56 | obnauticus | haven't been aroudn much... |
| 10:48.10 | JT | they destribute maps to boat owners |
| 10:48.16 | JT | distribute |
| 10:48.27 | obnauticus | i heard of sharks liking to gnaw on them |
| 10:48.34 | JT | hah |
| 10:48.34 | obnauticus | do they put a nasty flavor around them? |
| 10:48.36 | obnauticus | so they don't eat the, |
| 10:48.37 | JT | mm steel armour |
| 10:48.38 | obnauticus | them* |
| 10:48.41 | JT | and if they hit the middle |
| 10:48.44 | J4k3 | ickypick |
| 10:48.45 | JT | they get the jackpot |
| 10:48.49 | JT | over 2500VDC |
| 10:48.51 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:48.53 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:48.56 | obnauticus | so? |
| 10:49.27 | neonerz | aight guys |
| 10:49.37 | obnauticus | lol i forogt who did but someone told me that if you were to trench up a fiber wire, cut it, re end it and put it into your computer they would see you carrying the wire because they would attach a camera to it |
| 10:49.38 | neonerz | it looks like I'm not getting cbmysql working tonight |
| 10:49.47 | neonerz | and its 6am |
| 10:49.53 | neonerz | night |
| 10:50.11 | neonerz | a camera to it? |
| 10:50.16 | obnauticus | ya lmao |
| 10:50.20 | neonerz | would that work? |
| 10:50.20 | obnauticus | there are so many mirrors in it |
| 10:50.22 | obnauticus | no |
| 10:50.28 | obnauticus | it's an IR tube first of all |
| 10:50.29 | neonerz | it would need to be a high powered camera |
| 10:50.33 | neonerz | yea |
| 10:50.34 | JT | lol someone liked making bs stories |
| 10:50.39 | obnauticus | ya |
| 10:50.40 | obnauticus | i was like |
| 10:50.45 | obnauticus | are you sure that makes sense |
| 10:50.46 | neonerz | you could shine light across it though |
| 10:50.47 | neonerz | :) |
| 10:50.51 | obnauticus | a laser |
| 10:50.53 | JT | single mode fibre only has enough diameter for a single wavelength |
| 10:50.58 | J4k3 | send the batman symbol over it |
| 10:51.00 | obnauticus | ya |
| 10:51.02 | obnauticus | LMAO |
| 10:51.05 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:51.11 | obnauticus | tell your friend to get on the other side |
| 10:51.12 | JT | well, not a single wavelength |
| 10:51.15 | JT | that was worded wrong |
| 10:51.18 | obnauticus | it's IR |
| 10:51.18 | JT | but you get the idea |
| 10:51.19 | obnauticus | like |
| 10:51.25 | obnauticus | 600-950jnm |
| 10:51.26 | obnauticus | nm* |
| 10:51.28 | JT | nah |
| 10:51.30 | JT | 1550nm |
| 10:51.31 | obnauticus | stfu it is |
| 10:51.35 | JT | all telco shit is 1550nm |
| 10:51.38 | obnauticus | k |
| 10:51.41 | JT | they used to be 1310 |
| 10:51.49 | neonerz | lol |
| 10:51.50 | JT | and heaps of telcos laid 1310 singlemode |
| 10:51.53 | J4k3 | yeah, but there got to be too much interference there |
| 10:51.58 | J4k3 | cuz you know how fiber likes to crosstalk |
| 10:51.59 | J4k3 | :D |
| 10:52.00 | JT | then EDFA amplifiers were invented |
| 10:52.04 | JT | and telcos were really sad |
| 10:52.09 | obnauticus | can you plug the Fiber from a FiOS line into a router |
| 10:52.11 | JT | because their fibre didn't work with 1550nm |
| 10:52.14 | obnauticus | i was told you could not because of some modulation |
| 10:52.24 | JT | EDFA only works at 1550nm |
| 10:52.32 | JT | (pure optical amplification) |
| 10:52.48 | obnauticus | that's cool |
| 10:53.03 | obnauticus | i always wanted to trench one of those up though |
| 10:53.05 | obnauticus | as a joke |
| 10:53.10 | neonerz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:53.15 | obnauticus | probably in a natrual gas pipe or something |
| 10:53.21 | J4k3 | neonerz: oh snap |
| 10:53.40 | JT | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:55.05 | JT | why trench, when you can just break into a pit? |
| 10:55.16 | obnauticus | i dunno |
| 10:55.25 | obnauticus | i'll get that thing on the core |
| 10:55.28 | obnauticus | the movei the core |
| 10:55.33 | obnauticus | i'll get the line with that |
| 10:55.41 | obnauticus | and use their leeb h4x0r to help me use it |
| 10:55.42 | JT | just a tip |
| 10:55.51 | JT | if you ever do anything silly like cutting a telco fibre cable |
| 10:55.56 | JT | do not look into the ends. |
| 10:55.59 | obnauticus | ya |
| 10:56.03 | obnauticus | it'll burn the cornia |
| 10:56.10 | obnauticus | the retna |
| 10:56.12 | obnauticus | or whatever |
| 10:56.13 | JT | you'll get spots on your retinna |
| 10:56.19 | neonerz | no its fine |
| 10:56.28 | neonerz | dont listen to him |
| 10:56.32 | obnauticus | k |
| 10:56.36 | obnauticus | im not that stupid though |
| 10:56.38 | neonerz | it gives you super human strenth |
| 10:56.42 | obnauticus | i wouldn't do that :| |
| 10:57.10 | neonerz | want to hear about a fun game con ed plays with verizon? |
| 10:57.35 | obnauticus | let me guess what happens |
| 10:57.36 | obnauticus | ed |
| 10:57.38 | obnauticus | he plays with verizon |
| 10:57.39 | JT | heh verizon |
| 10:57.45 | JT | we even have verizon in australia |
| 10:57.49 | neonerz | they play who could cut more of the others wires without making it look like it was done on purpose |
| 10:57.50 | obnauticus | I hate Verizon |
| 10:58.30 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:58.32 | neonerz | they love going into a manhole that has the others wires in it |
| 10:58.38 | obnauticus | i can imagene one guy looking at pairs with a bunch of buddies |
| 10:58.47 | obnauticus | with swiss army scissors on the knife |
| 10:58.47 | JT | heh |
| 10:58.49 | obnauticus | which one |
| 10:58.52 | JT | i've heard some better stories |
| 10:58.55 | neonerz | if lets say con ed goes down to work on a breaker |
| 10:58.59 | neonerz | and there is fiber near it |
| 10:59.04 | neonerz | they'll cut it |
| 10:59.07 | obnauticus | It's funnier when they trip on the line. |
| 10:59.10 | obnauticus | and break it |
| 10:59.12 | neonerz | and say it was unsafe for them to work with it there |
| 10:59.12 | JT | in sydney city there's a telco tunnel - telstra tunnel |
| 10:59.28 | JT | years ago a disgruntled telstra employee went down there with a chainsaw |
| 10:59.33 | JT | and cut all the cables |
| 10:59.34 | neonerz | I got some telstra circuits |
| 10:59.49 | JT | there were the days of 1000pr+ copper cables |
| 10:59.57 | JT | it took weeks to fix |
| 11:00.31 | obnauticus | not that old |
| 11:00.38 | JT | neonerz: what sort of circuits? |
| 11:01.02 | JT | oh and in another cable tunnel, in another city, and another gisgruntled telstra employee went down there with an axe |
| 11:01.05 | neonerz | a week ago a new guy in one of Paetec's switches in NYC litterally broke a card in one of their CM's (control module for a lucent 5EEE) and took out a whole cluster of switches |
| 11:01.11 | JT | cut a telco cable |
| 11:01.15 | JT | then cut an 11kV feeder |
| 11:01.17 | JT | and died |
| 11:01.19 | neonerz | mostly T1's but one DS3 |
| 11:01.27 | neonerz | T1/E1 |
| 11:01.33 | neonerz | they are private lines from the US |
| 11:01.43 | obnauticus | JT why would you cut that with an axe |
| 11:01.50 | JT | which end are you terminating to them with? |
| 11:01.50 | obnauticus | silly |
| 11:01.58 | JT | obnauticus: dunno? why would you cut a power cable |
| 11:02.06 | obnauticus | Because you are cool |
| 11:02.08 | obnauticus | i udnno |
| 11:02.10 | neonerz | T1 in the US and E1 in EU |
| 11:02.22 | JT | neonerz: we aren't in the EU |
| 11:02.59 | JT | neonerz: i meant are you buying the circuits in australia, or in the us? |
| 11:03.17 | neonerz | acutally they are to data centers in EU |
| 11:03.23 | JT | weird |
| 11:03.27 | JT | and telstra provide them? |
| 11:03.40 | neonerz | they provide the transport to the data center |
| 11:03.59 | JT | hmm |
| 11:04.40 | neonerz | we hand them of to global crossing to bring up to att rogers to take across the transatlantic to ireland then to telstra who picks them up in like france or england |
| 11:04.42 | neonerz | I forget |
| 11:04.55 | obnauticus | I still hate ATT :| |
| 11:05.00 | JT | ah ok |
| 11:05.03 | obnauticus | Didn't they just make a new line |
| 11:05.07 | obnauticus | that's epic fast |
| 11:05.12 | obnauticus | East to West coast US. |
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| 11:05.47 | neonerz | setting up a ccircut from the US to EU and over there sucks |
| 11:05.58 | neonerz | the time difference kills you |
| 11:06.08 | neonerz | you have like 2 hours in the morning to get shit done |
| 11:06.34 | neonerz | and there is so many hands on it |
| 11:07.11 | neonerz | we had a circuit that went to canada that took two weeks to turn up because no one knew why there was a loop on the circuit |
| 11:07.32 | neonerz | and in the end the customers vendor noticed that the rogers tech left the NIU in a loopback state |
| 11:07.33 | amorphka | What is "IRQ misses: 75" means? |
| 11:07.41 | neonerz | had the little switch, switched |
| 11:08.25 | neonerz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ftF&q=IRQ+misses%3A+75&btnG=Search |
| 11:08.31 | obnauticus | Inter Quartile Range misses. |
| 11:08.47 | obnauticus | good guess :| |
| 11:09.33 | BBHoss | amorphka, starting point http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+PCI+bus+Troubleshooting |
| 11:10.03 | BBHoss | try hdparm -t /dev/sda and see if it shows them |
| 11:10.16 | BBHoss | irq misses indicate problems with system I/O |
| 11:11.25 | BBHoss | some other tips are to turn off HT support in bios |
| 11:13.11 | JT | make sure there's no interrupt sharing too |
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| 11:54.31 | amorphka | how can I make changes in zaptel.conf to take effect? "unload/load chan_zap.so" is enough? |
| 11:57.00 | JT | no, restart asterisk |
| 11:57.04 | JT | to be sure |
| 11:57.08 | JT | zaptel is finicky like that |
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| 12:05.55 | amorphka | so "restart gracefully" will do the job? |
| 12:06.00 | amorphka | from CLI? |
| 12:06.33 | JT | yeah |
| 12:07.09 | amorphka | ok, but i still get blue/yellow alarm alternating with yellow alarm |
| 12:07.21 | amorphka | any hint? |
| 12:07.31 | amorphka | IRQ is ok |
| 12:07.35 | amorphka | zttest is ok |
| 12:07.42 | JT | is this a pri? |
| 12:07.47 | amorphka | yep |
| 12:07.58 | JT | what does pri show span 1 come up with? |
| 12:08.34 | amorphka | asterisk*CLI> pri show span 1 |
| 12:08.34 | amorphka | Primary D-channel: 16 |
| 12:08.34 | amorphka | Status: Provisioned, In Alarm, Down, Active |
| 12:08.34 | amorphka | Switchtype: EuroISDN |
| 12:08.34 | amorphka | Type: CPE |
| 12:08.35 | amorphka | Window Length: 0/7 |
| 12:08.37 | amorphka | Sentrej: 0 |
| 12:08.39 | amorphka | SolicitFbit: 0 |
| 12:08.41 | amorphka | Retrans: 0 |
| 12:08.43 | amorphka | Busy: 0 |
| 12:08.45 | amorphka | Overlap Dial: 0 |
| 12:08.46 | JT | ~pb |
| 12:08.47 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 12:08.47 | amorphka | T200 Timer: 1000 |
| 12:08.49 | amorphka | T203 Timer: 10000 |
| 12:08.51 | amorphka | T305 Timer: 30000 |
| 12:08.53 | amorphka | T308 Timer: 4000 |
| 12:08.55 | amorphka | T309 Timer: -1 |
| 12:08.57 | amorphka | T313 Timer: 4000 |
| 12:08.59 | amorphka | N200 Counter: 3 |
| 12:09.27 | amorphka | thx |
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| 12:09.42 | amorphka | can you see anything abnormal? |
| 12:09.53 | JT | well the d channel is down |
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| 12:10.32 | amorphka | where is it? which line says it to you? |
| 12:10.42 | JT | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.46 | JT | down |
| 12:11.06 | amorphka | fine |
| 12:11.24 | amorphka | what should i do with it? |
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| 12:24.36 | amorphka | what is "Sending Set Asynchronous Balanced Mode Extended" if i enable intense debug on pri span 1 |
| 12:28.56 | yang | I wonder are there many losses when using VOIP over wireless network? |
| 12:29.59 | yang | the latency is under 10ms |
| 12:31.28 | phix | :D |
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| 12:34.42 | FlatFoot | yang , i run 2 * 's over 5.8ghz . works just fine |
| 12:35.45 | FlatFoot | actually via 3 5.8ghz links then up a 100m fibre |
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| 12:41.52 | yang | ok |
| 12:45.21 | yang | FlatFoot: could you assist me with the proper network configuration, I think you got it solved with those phones |
| 12:45.37 | yang | FlatFoot: #iptables if you don't mind |
| 12:46.15 | FlatFoot | yang there is a very good example on the wiki search for free bsd |
| 12:46.19 | FlatFoot | ~wiki |
| 12:46.35 | yang | well i am using linux |
| 12:46.47 | FlatFoot | iptables work whatever |
| 12:47.45 | yang | should i just copy the configuration from my gateway, as I use 2 nic's there? |
| 12:47.56 | yang | probably it would work the same |
| 12:48.10 | yang | in the same direction i mean |
| 12:48.36 | yang | I have one question, I would like to use an internet phone binded to eth2 NIC card, but my internet connection is shared via wlan0 NIC wireless card...I don't know how to proceeed to share my connection between wlan0 and eth2 |
| 12:49.28 | BBHoss | just use bridging with iptables |
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| 13:02.30 | FlatFoot | BBHoss you still on the meth ;p |
| 13:04.24 | BBHoss | hell yes |
| 13:05.07 | yang | methadon ? |
| 13:05.33 | BBHoss | methamphetamine, methadone is for pussies |
| 13:06.01 | angryuser[A] | yea try drainochrome ;) |
| 13:06.03 | BBHoss | j/k btw :) |
| 13:07.34 | coppice | methadone can be absorbed through the pussy? :-\ |
| 13:07.44 | phix | nice |
| 13:07.59 | BBHoss | i knew someone had tried it |
| 13:08.15 | phix | I would like to try it |
| 13:10.43 | yang | there are better method to waste yourself, than missusing the drugs |
| 13:11.38 | BBHoss | is it considered misuse if the manufacturer intended it for such use? |
| 13:11.41 | BBHoss | i think not |
| 13:12.22 | yang | Is metamephinbe legal in the usa? |
| 13:12.47 | BBHoss | no, but the person who makes it intends for it to be used in the way most people do... |
| 13:13.33 | yang | is it being called "speed" |
| 13:13.52 | BBHoss | who knows, i just hear it called "meth" :) |
| 13:13.56 | yang | ok |
| 13:14.16 | yang | its in a dust form |
| 13:14.24 | yang | you sniff it or eat it |
| 13:14.27 | FlatFoot | yang , yes SPEED |
| 13:14.34 | BBHoss | most people smoke it |
| 13:14.44 | yang | I have seen people sniffing them |
| 13:14.51 | yang | and those can be made at home |
| 13:15.14 | yang | But it won't do you any good on a long term |
| 13:16.28 | BBHoss | you know im just kidding, right? |
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| 13:29.04 | Titanous | How do I strip a 1 from a variable only if it is at the beginning? (in the dialplan) |
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| 13:32.59 | BBHoss | Titanous, try a :1 to strip the first character from a variable, like this: {EXTEN:1} |
| 13:33.31 | Titanous | BBHoss: Already doing that, but it doesn't always have a one, so it gets messed up |
| 13:33.49 | BBHoss | hmm |
| 13:36.45 | FlatFoot | Titanous , try a GOTOIF |
| 13:36.54 | Titanous | ok |
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| 13:40.46 | stefanx | Hello everyone. It's my first time on this channel, and I was just wondering if there is any guideline as to how to conduct oneself in this channel, i.e who to address, and what not to do. I just don't want to barge in and ask question if there is an accepted code of conduct ;) |
| 13:41.01 | BBHoss | basically don't paste into the channel |
| 13:41.04 | BBHoss | use pastenit |
| 13:41.06 | BBHoss | ~pb |
| 13:41.19 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 13:41.19 | BBHoss | ~ask |
| 13:41.20 | jbot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 13:42.23 | coppice | better still, give answers and get people to work out what the question was |
| 13:42.40 | FlatFoot | jepardy |
| 13:43.15 | stefanx | Thanks |
| 13:43.34 | BBHoss | hmm, anyone trying to run 1.6 as non-root? |
| 13:44.14 | BBHoss | i can get it to run, but asterisk -r still complains about not being able to find /var/run/asterisk.ctl |
| 13:44.30 | BBHoss | even though it's in /var/run/asterisk/asterisk.ctl |
| 13:45.26 | stefanx | I need help with a Digium B410p ISDN BRI card. I seem to have everything loaded that I need, and I get flashing light on the card. However, I was hoping someone could help me identify things a little better. Digium documentation only deals with the colour of the LED's : green : in sync red not in sybc, Yellow syncing. But there is no explanation on the sifnificance of the led flashing or not. Does anyone have experience with this card to enligh |
| 13:46.24 | BBHoss | bri is a can of worms, what spec are you using |
| 13:47.12 | riddlebox | weazahl, you there? |
| 13:48.51 | stefanx | Asterisk 1.4.17-1 |
| 13:49.07 | BBHoss | what spec ISDN is it, is it supported by the card? |
| 13:49.16 | BBHoss | we don't really have BRI here in the US :( |
| 13:49.48 | stefanx | It's a South African ISDN, which means it is the same as in Germany |
| 13:49.57 | stefanx | Has a single S BUS on it |
| 13:50.04 | BBHoss | so im assuming a EuroISDN or something supported |
| 13:50.20 | stefanx | Guess so, I'm unfortunately not an ISDN expert |
| 13:50.22 | BBHoss | so you've followed all of the instructions to the T? |
| 13:50.27 | stefanx | Yep |
| 13:50.31 | BBHoss | hmm |
| 13:50.43 | BBHoss | what does zap show channels show? |
| 13:50.45 | stefanx | And I do get different results as I mess around in misdn-init.conf |
| 13:51.03 | stefanx | BRI is not Zaptel - it's mISDN |
| 13:51.18 | stefanx | So if I say : misdn show stacks, then I get the 4 channels just fine |
| 13:51.22 | BBHoss | you can paste up to three lines into the channel, anything more goes to pastebin |
| 13:51.30 | BBHoss | hmm |
| 13:51.45 | BBHoss | do you have another BRI device to ensure the line works? |
| 13:52.32 | stefanx | My BRI unit also has 2 analog ports - if I put a phone in there it works fine |
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| 13:53.05 | BBHoss | so the bri line is going through something else before it gets to * |
| 13:53.06 | BBHoss | ? |
| 13:53.40 | stefanx | Well, the telecomms operator has a terminating device installed in my office - this is known as an ISDN BRI 2a |
| 13:53.53 | stefanx | It has one S-Bus connector, and 2 analog ports |
| 13:54.18 | stefanx | The S-Bus connector is an RJ-45 connector which mates well with the B410p |
| 13:54.56 | stefanx | The card itself can be set for TE or NT mode with jumpers and in misdn-init.conf (the config file for the misdn driver), one can also specify these |
| 13:55.21 | stefanx | The jumper just really determines whether one needs an ISDN crossover cable or not |
| 13:55.38 | stefanx | It seems that the mode in the driver config file has much greater influence |
| 13:56.30 | stefanx | Whenever I set the driver to anything TE (Terminal Equipment), I get no change in status, regardless of what cable I use |
| 13:56.54 | stefanx | But if I set it to one of its NT modes, then I get different activity on the port LEDs |
| 13:57.07 | stefanx | I also get a lot of extra information in dmesg in such cases |
| 13:57.10 | BBHoss | what does it do then |
| 13:57.23 | BBHoss | you don't know what mode you need to use? |
| 13:57.30 | stefanx | Well, with no cables, the LED flashes red |
| 13:57.47 | stefanx | With NT Mode, I get a flashing green or yellow |
| 13:58.12 | stefanx | I think it is yellow because if one looks really close up, the LED actually has red and green, and it alternates very quickly between them |
| 13:58.17 | stefanx | I guess to give yellow |
| 13:58.20 | FlatFoot | stefanx , how long did you leave it when it started green / yellow ? |
| 13:58.43 | stefanx | Probably 20 minutes FllatFoot |
| 13:58.53 | stefanx | But let me check again, to see if there has been a change |
| 13:59.07 | FlatFoot | ah not a sync prob then ! |
| 13:59.21 | stefanx | I think it is related |
| 13:59.31 | stefanx | My dmesg has a lot of stuff like the following: |
| 13:59.41 | FlatFoot | some lines need a while to get going , provider kit can be a bit otuchy |
| 13:59.47 | stefanx | And I won't paste more than 3 lines ;) |
| 14:00.14 | stefanx | hfcmulti_rx: CRC-error |
| 14:00.28 | stefanx | Now this sounds like an issue of terminating resistors |
| 14:00.41 | stefanx | But I've switched them both on and off - no change |
| 14:01.27 | stefanx | Sometimes I also get something talking about a data frame being too short |
| 14:01.45 | stefanx | So almost as if there is a hassle between the ISDN NT from the provider and the card |
| 14:01.46 | b1ch0 | hi guys, working with elastix but having problem with ZapMicro card that do not release analog lines (do not perform hang up) ... any tip that helps me to understant what is appening ? |
| 14:02.57 | BBHoss | b1ch0, this is not the elastix support channel, but it sounds like you have bad hardware or your provider is not telling your card that the person has hung up |
| 14:03.10 | BBHoss | which could be caused by an incorrect signalling type |
| 14:03.23 | stefanx | How about busydetect in zapata.conf ? |
| 14:04.11 | stefanx | I don't have the exact syntax here, but what it amounted to for me was a setting that told zaptel to consider busy tone after a conversation as hangup |
| 14:04.49 | b1ch0 | ok, i will try, thanks a lot guys |
| 14:04.54 | BBHoss | depends on signalling type, looks like he is in bolivia, who knows |
| 14:05.18 | BBHoss | stefanx, maybe this is a start: http://www.isdn4linux.de/pipermail/isdn4linux/2007-December/003293.html |
| 14:05.38 | stefanx | Thanks BBHoss - I'll check it out |
| 14:06.18 | b1ch0 | ha aha a ahaha |
| 14:06.28 | BBHoss | what |
| 14:06.53 | b1ch0 | i am in bolivia, but this depend on wich provider you are using |
| 14:07.10 | BBHoss | yeah do you know what kind of signalling they use? |
| 14:07.21 | BBHoss | fxs_gs, fxs_ls, fxs_ks |
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| 14:07.43 | b1ch0 | nop, but i am using ks |
| 14:08.02 | b1ch0 | and my issue not always happen, just once a day |
| 14:08.04 | BBHoss | have you tried any of the others |
| 14:08.07 | BBHoss | hmm |
| 14:08.13 | b1ch0 | all call are terminated well |
| 14:08.22 | BBHoss | could be hardware then, never used ZapMicro |
| 14:08.38 | b1ch0 | yes, maybe |
| 14:09.13 | stefanx | On that topic, I find the Digium TDM2400 and TDP400 a little slow with that (hangup detect) |
| 14:09.25 | BBHoss | join the party |
| 14:09.28 | mvanbaak | zapmicro is a clone card right ? |
| 14:09.31 | b1ch0 | i will try with another card, even if in zapata.conf i am not handling noting over busy or hangup |
| 14:09.32 | BBHoss | yeah |
| 14:09.44 | stefanx | Does anyone have experience with the Sangoma offerings ? |
| 14:09.49 | mvanbaak | get a real TDM |
| 14:10.02 | mvanbaak | stefanx: we use sangoma in a couple of installations |
| 14:10.04 | BBHoss | stefanx, i've heard they're good |
| 14:10.16 | stefanx | What's a "REAL" TDM ? |
| 14:10.27 | BBHoss | TDM400p etc |
| 14:10.30 | mvanbaak | stefanx: real TDM == digium boards |
| 14:10.36 | BBHoss | he was talking to b1ch0 |
| 14:10.37 | stefanx | I have those ;) |
| 14:10.53 | stefanx | The hangup is OK-ish |
| 14:11.12 | stefanx | But even with TDM's I get that hanging sometimes |
| 14:11.13 | b1ch0 | i have a real one, but only with 4 ports |
| 14:11.19 | Titanous | what happens if I #include a file with a context that has the same name as one in extension.conf |
| 14:11.23 | Titanous | ? |
| 14:11.23 | mvanbaak | b1ch0: zapmicro offers free installation support. did you call them ? |
| 14:11.26 | b1ch0 | ... lets see, and thanks again |
| 14:11.52 | BBHoss | Titanous, it probably will crash or won't read either of them, or will consider them the same |
| 14:12.00 | BBHoss | Titanous, why do you ask? |
| 14:12.15 | Titanous | just wondering about precedence for the config files |
| 14:12.25 | mvanbaak | Titanous: I think it will merge them |
| 14:13.28 | stefanx | Thanks for that link BBHoss - Unfortunately just 2 threads deep, but it sounds related |
| 14:13.54 | BBHoss | stefanx, yeah same errors, i would suggest calling digium monday, maybe they can help you out |
| 14:15.22 | stefanx | Yep, will try that |
| 14:15.33 | stefanx | Thanks for your suggestions |
| 14:15.38 | BBHoss | np |
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| 14:17.08 | stefanx | Is there an archive of this IRC Channel anywhere ? |
| 14:17.14 | BBHoss | yeah |
| 14:17.21 | BBHoss | don't remember though |
| 14:17.32 | stefanx | OK ;) |
| 14:17.56 | mvanbaak | there is in my /home/mvanbaak/irclogs/freenode/#asterisk |
| 14:18.41 | BBHoss | i just stumbled across one too, hang on |
| 14:20.08 | BBHoss | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23asterisk/ good ol jbot |
| 14:20.09 | stefanx | Are you on this channel permanently then mvanbaak ? |
| 14:20.22 | BBHoss | i usually am too, jbot ALWAYS is |
| 14:20.34 | stefanx | OK! |
| 14:20.36 | mvanbaak | stefanx: yup |
| 14:21.11 | stefanx | Would be nice if this archive was searchable |
| 14:21.22 | BBHoss | i think you can do it with google |
| 14:22.03 | stefanx | But does goofle look in gzipped files ? |
| 14:22.12 | stefanx | I guess so - I've seen such search results before |
| 14:22.15 | BBHoss | it found that |
| 14:23.19 | stefanx | Any idea how one uses google to limit results from one site only ? |
| 14:23.40 | stefanx | I hadly want to download all the .html.gz's ;) |
| 14:23.42 | mvanbaak | site:url |
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| 14:24.02 | mvanbaak | like this: snom 360 blf site:www.voip-info.org |
| 14:24.10 | stefanx | Cool - thanks |
| 14:24.20 | mvanbaak | hey lmadsen |
| 14:24.33 | lmadsen | morning mvanbaak |
| 14:24.35 | lmadsen | how goes? |
| 14:24.46 | mvanbaak | good good |
| 14:24.49 | mvanbaak | and there ? |
| 14:25.04 | lmadsen | I got out of bed 30 seconds ago :) |
| 14:25.11 | mvanbaak | wow |
| 14:25.14 | mvanbaak | Sat Feb 2 15:25:14 CET 2008 |
| 14:25.21 | lmadsen | ya... it's 9:30am here :) |
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| 14:35.35 | lmadsen | BBHoss: did you try the documentation for running as non-root in TFoT2? |
| 14:36.02 | BBHoss | lmadsen, i was using the one on the wiki, i wasnt aware that there was one in the book |
| 14:36.13 | lmadsen | yep, these is in the 2nd edition |
| 14:36.17 | lmadsen | s/these/there |
| 14:36.32 | BBHoss | which, btw i bought a paper copy of :) |
| 14:36.37 | lmadsen | w00t :) |
| 14:36.40 | lmadsen | 1st or 2nd edition? :) |
| 14:36.45 | BBHoss | 2nd |
| 14:36.51 | lmadsen | niiiice :) |
| 14:36.52 | BBHoss | barnes and noble had it |
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| 14:37.06 | BBHoss | it was in the myspace hacks and such area :) |
| 14:39.10 | lmadsen | ./configure --prefix=$HOME/asterisk-bin --sysconfdir=$HOME/asterisk-bin --localstatedir=$HOME/asterisk-bin |
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| 15:12.27 | asr33 | Hello guys; I have set up sip connection with my ITSP everything works extremely well; I have the opportunity to try IAX also is the call quality better or is it more secure? |
| 15:13.01 | [TK]D-Fender | asr33, no |
| 15:13.26 | asr33 | SIP is the only way to go? |
| 15:13.48 | stefanx | No, IAX2 still has advantages when routing more than 1 call between Asterisks |
| 15:14.10 | stefanx | And it's less work to configure through firewalls |
| 15:14.35 | ZaVoid | just leave udp open above 8k and your fine stefanx :) |
| 15:14.36 | [TK]D-Fender | asr33, no, its just the most reliable with *. IAX2 is only really useful in low bandwidth situation, cases whererouters screw up SIP badly, |
| 15:15.02 | asr33 | I really can't say enough great stuff about how fun Asterisk is! |
| 15:15.30 | stefanx | Some firewall that has udp over 8k open ;) |
| 15:16.25 | asr33 | ok thanks for the feedback |
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| 15:34.36 | riddlebox | does anyone know of an app built to make a phone tree? where you have a list of numbers and asterisk will call each one prompting them to answer a question |
| 15:35.23 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox, easy enough to do. Make a script that takes your list, and does an AMI originate for each. |
| 15:36.19 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, yeah I figured it was easy, I just wanted to see if anyone has created something already |
| 15:36.37 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox, Sure they have, but these are usually private projects |
| 15:36.46 | [TK]D-Fender | riddlebox, for their own business use |
| 15:36.52 | lmadsen | asr33: and IAX2 is a signalling protocol (like SIP) and carries the same media payload, so call quality won't be "better" |
| 15:37.08 | ZaVoid | xcompass: you mean a dial up ata wiht sip? |
| 15:37.10 | ZaVoid | i've seen em |
| 15:37.13 | ZaVoid | they use g723 codec mostly |
| 15:37.22 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, sure |
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| 15:41.13 | asr33 | lmadsen: ok, thanks for the reply. I should try AIX2 though just for pure experimentation..... |
| 15:41.31 | lmadsen | "should"? - I think you mean "could" |
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| 15:42.18 | asr33 | exactly |
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| 15:56.15 | Bosse | any tips on how I could enable a callback system? to be precise; when I call my IVR from abroad, I'll enter a secret code and a callback number, and then disconnects, calls me back through a cheap route, and then transfers me to an ext/IVR. I have vanilla 1.4.10. |
| 15:57.15 | Bosse | the IVR part is ok, what I'm curious about is how to get * to call me back up and then transfer me. |
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| 15:58.29 | ManxPower | Bosse: look up .call files and sample.call in the asterisk source. |
| 15:58.34 | mvanbaak | http://blog.gramels.info/blog/index.php?/archives/21-simple-fixed-asterisk-callback-configuration.html |
| 16:09.08 | Bosse | ManxPower, mvanbaak: thanks for the leads |
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| 16:14.10 | lunaphyte | i've been working on getting an spa3102 to pass incoming pstn calls through asterisk. i've managed to get it functioning, but only when the spa calls a specific extension. can i pass callerid from the incoming pstn call through asterisk in a case like that? |
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| 16:22.17 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : the SPA always calls a specific extension, and the CID is attached to that call. |
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| 16:24.25 | lunaphyte | hmm, i must be missing a setting then. |
| 16:24.54 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : there is one for passing the incoming CID to * on your SPA. |
| 16:25.03 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : its well documented |
| 16:25.35 | lunaphyte | i've found a few examples where the spa had been configured to call the "s" extension, which i wasn't familiar with, so i was just reading a bit about that, but it seems like that's a bit discouraged. |
| 16:26.08 | lunaphyte | yeah, i believe i've got that on: PSTN CID For VoIP CID = yes. |
| 16:29.11 | [TK]D-Fender | pastebini your sip.conf entry for the FXO. |
| 16:30.23 | lunaphyte | http://rafb.net/p/uug3NV54.html |
| 16:32.45 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : ok, the * side looks ok. Keep checking the ATA, and test for the CID in your dialplan. |
| 16:33.07 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : And you'd better make sure you are letting it ring TWICE before passing the call to *. |
| 16:33.17 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : Thats to most common mistake. |
| 16:33.43 | lunaphyte | i've got an answer delay of 5 sec, so i think i'm in good shape there. |
| 16:34.06 | lunaphyte | when you say 'test for the cid in your dialplan' - what does that mean? |
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| 16:34.31 | joez212 | hello guys |
| 16:34.52 | joez212 | i wonder if anyone can answer a few questions about asterisk |
| 16:35.00 | joez212 | if I setup up my computer with it (buying that PCI card) would features would I get? |
| 16:35.23 | joez212 | a friend says I setup all my phones to have an extension |
| 16:35.32 | joez212 | just like a big office |
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| 16:36.48 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : NoOp the caller id |
| 16:37.22 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, You certainly can, but PCI based solution isn't always cost-effective. What do you want exactly? |
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| 16:38.05 | joez212 | tk, not sure |
| 16:38.26 | joez212 | I was told by a friend that its an amazing piece of technology |
| 16:38.32 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Can't advise you if you don't know what you want... |
| 16:38.51 | joez212 | he mentioned something about being able to accept a local phone call |
| 16:38.55 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, * can be used to make a very nice PBX with IVR's, voicemail, and all sort of other stuff. |
| 16:39.02 | joez212 | via skype |
| 16:39.12 | joez212 | what is an IVR? |
| 16:39.16 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Yes, * can take in different kinds of PSTN lines. |
| 16:39.20 | [TK]D-Fender | ~ivr |
| 16:39.23 | jbot | hmm... ivr is Interactive Voice Response |
| 16:39.31 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, no, not Skype... |
| 16:39.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ~skype |
| 16:39.34 | jbot | [~skype] Skype is a free VoIP software and service using a closed client and propritary protocol. Only commercial channel drivers exist, all of which are poor implementations of convoluted hacks. In general, forget about using Skype with Asterisk... |
| 16:40.00 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, an IVR is a DTMF (touch-tone) menu |
| 16:40.25 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, like when you call a company and their system asks you which ext or department to dial, etc. |
| 16:40.28 | joez212 | oh, is that where it says, "push 1 to reach a Customer Service Rep or push 2 to listen to our directions |
| 16:40.33 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, yes |
| 16:41.30 | joez212 | that's pretty neat |
| 16:41.44 | joez212 | not sure why i would want that with my home phone lol |
| 16:42.00 | joez212 | unless maybe i could add an extension for each family member? |
| 16:42.02 | joez212 | hmm |
| 16:42.09 | jer | joez212, i have one for that very purpose at my house |
| 16:42.17 | joez212 | ok |
| 16:42.25 | joez212 | now i am learning what asterick is capable ofQ! |
| 16:42.33 | jer | 1 for my desk, 2 for my eldest son, etc |
| 16:44.00 | joez212 | does it work with 5.8ghz phones with extra handsets? |
| 16:44.07 | joez212 | or do i need to buy one of those usb phones? |
| 16:45.44 | jer | joez212, you can use zap channels for extensions (meaning, plugging in a regular phone); but if you have multiple handsets for one base station, all those handsets will be at one extension |
| 16:46.41 | jer | you can buy ip phones (which is what i did), or you can have say, 4 fxs ports on a tdm2400 card; allowing you to plug in up to 4 regular phones that you can config up in asterisk to point at specific extensions |
| 16:47.26 | joez212 | what ip phones did you get jer? |
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| 16:49.20 | jer | i bought a couple of linksys wip300 ip phones for the kids, and myself, i have a snom 370 desk phone |
| 16:50.26 | joez212 | do i need to get voip service to do such a thing? |
| 16:50.34 | jer | nope |
| 16:50.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Zaptel cards for FXS is just a waste |
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| 16:51.23 | jer | [TK]D-Fender, you may be right, just shooting out options; not that there aren't others |
| 16:51.45 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, you'd use a VoIP service (or ITSP) in cases where they offer you good rates to call places your telco would be more expensive for. |
| 16:51.53 | joez212 | ok so that's say i wanted to setup extensions, add some wireless ip phones, and add voicemail capailabilties .. is this possible with asterisk? |
| 16:52.05 | [TK]D-Fender | jer : others that aren't considerably less expensive and more flexible :) |
| 16:52.05 | joez212 | if so, what would i need for a setup? |
| 16:52.13 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Entirely |
| 16:52.35 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Wifi voip phones are usually not recommended. |
| 16:52.37 | joez212 | well i was told i can do all this with a piece of hardware and do not need to get voip services added |
| 16:52.39 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wifivoip |
| 16:52.39 | jbot | [~wifivoip] Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g) VoIP phones on the market may possess any of the following drawbacks : poor battery life, limited range, lack of call features (many lack transfer, etc), poor or no NAT traversal, shoddy construction, etc. Because of this they are usually not recommended. Some alternatives are : VoIP ATA + cordless, DECT w/ VoIP base, etc |
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| 16:52.59 | joez212 | oh ok |
| 16:53.15 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, So in your case I'd start with an ATA (lets you using analog phones a SIP phones and plugs into your LAN |
| 16:53.33 | joez212 | ok i'm trying my best to the terminology |
| 16:53.36 | joez212 | what is ATA |
| 16:53.42 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Do you have an analog phone line you'd like * to use as well? |
| 16:53.52 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Just told you what an ATA is. |
| 16:54.01 | joez212 | ahh |
| 16:54.07 | joez212 | i have many analog phones |
| 16:54.17 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, http://www.telephonydepot.com/Linksys_ATA_s/33.htm |
| 16:54.35 | joez212 | but we did recently get a fancy 5.8ghz wireless phone with 2 extra handsets |
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| 16:54.36 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, SPA-3102 will let you use your home phone line (if you have one), and 1 analog phone as well. |
| 16:54.47 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, the SPA-2102 will let you use 2 analog phones. |
| 16:55.10 | joez212 | wow linksys makes them!! |
| 16:55.16 | joez212 | i thought i had to buy dignum brands!! |
| 16:55.22 | jer | linksys makes some mighty fine ATAs |
| 16:55.28 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Hate to say it but your multi-handset phone + base will effective be *1* phone as they all share that single line attached. the will not be independant of each other |
| 16:55.42 | jer | we sell the SPA-3102 to our customers |
| 16:56.02 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Digium makes PCI cards and are generally used by companies with multiple lines. |
| 16:56.11 | joez212 | ahh |
| 16:56.35 | joez212 | having another PC running versus a little tiny linksys box sounds a lot better |
| 16:57.14 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, So for a guy who just wants to use his home line, I suggest the SPA-3102. And for those wanting to use a bunch of extra analog phones each as independant SIP devices, add an appropriate number of SPA-2102's |
| 16:57.41 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Oh, you DO need that PC running for *, its just that you don't need a special PCI card for it. |
| 16:57.42 | joez212 | i wonder if there is a diagram with this explained |
| 16:58.07 | joez212 | so asterisk supports these linksys cards! :O |
| 16:58.20 | joez212 | wow i thought dignum was the only hardware maker! |
| 16:58.30 | jer | there are other ATAs that, instead of stacking SPA-2102s one could just purchase one of these higher capacity ATAs, and have just the one device, but up to 8 analog phones |
| 16:58.33 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, These ATA's speak SIP (a VoIP protocol), and yes, * speaks SIP as well. |
| 16:58.59 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Indeed, Linksys SPA-8000 offers 8 FXS (phone) ports for about $230 |
| 17:00.09 | joez212 | so basically i would need to hook up each telephone to one of those 2102 |
| 17:00.24 | joez212 | and the 3102 would see them as individual extensions |
| 17:00.38 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, No, the 3102 has no "brains" in the case |
| 17:00.47 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, You still need that PC running * |
| 17:00.54 | joez212 | ahhh |
| 17:00.59 | joez212 | so i would need those parts |
| 17:01.05 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, the SPA-2102's let you use 2 phones each as separate SIP devices to talk to *. |
| 17:01.07 | joez212 | but i could get a higher end linksys spa |
| 17:01.18 | joez212 | and elimninate the need for the 2102s |
| 17:01.26 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, the SPA-3102 will let you using your home phone line with *. |
| 17:01.39 | joez212 | sorry guys |
| 17:01.47 | joez212 | trying to understand |
| 17:01.58 | joez212 | ok lemme go to the linksys site and read about the 3102 |
| 17:02.09 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Indeed. the cost-effective (or more simple) choice for you will depend on just how many devices you plan on using. |
| 17:02.26 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Linksys doesn't document thier VoIP stuff at all really on their site... |
| 17:02.28 | joez212 | ok lemme go count the phones in the house |
| 17:03.10 | lunaphyte | [TK]D-Fender: here's what asterisk's saying when the call arrives: http://rafb.net/p/dNUhIv38.html |
| 17:03.21 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Don't forget, you have you remove them from the jacks they are on and plug them into these devices instead... |
| 17:03.59 | jer | [TK]D-Fender, or wire them directly into those jacks (the individual ports on the ATA) ... but i'd generally not recommend people do that |
| 17:04.10 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : You have not finished setting it to pass the CID on... keep reading the guides. |
| 17:04.42 | [TK]D-Fender | jer : Yeah, assuming you can trace this back to an independantly wired patch-panel, which lets face it, 99.9999% of homes DON'T have. |
| 17:04.53 | jer | indeed |
| 17:05.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jer : Most splice the shit out of things |
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| 17:10.50 | joez212 | 3 regular phones and one 5.8ghz phone with 2 extensions plus base |
| 17:10.51 | joez212 | oh oh |
| 17:11.04 | joez212 | would i be able to receive regular phone calls ?? |
| 17:11.25 | joez212 | so lemee explain it back so i understand |
| 17:11.34 | joez212 | i need to unplug all the phones in the house |
| 17:11.39 | joez212 | plug each one into a ata |
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| 17:12.14 | joez212 | the main * computer with the main linksys part gets plugged into the regular telephone line? |
| 17:13.03 | lunaphyte | there are no linksys components inside the asterisk computer. |
| 17:13.07 | joez212 | oh |
| 17:13.17 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, the SPA-3102 will take you home phone line in |
| 17:13.29 | lunaphyte | they're all little boxes that sit by themselves. |
| 17:13.34 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, these are all little external boxes that plug ont your LAN |
| 17:13.40 | joez212 | oh shoot |
| 17:13.49 | joez212 | i dont have network cable going to all areas of the house! |
| 17:13.52 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, that talk through your network |
| 17:14.14 | plik | time for a re-wire ;) |
| 17:14.17 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, run independant phone wires back to the ATA's then |
| 17:14.28 | lunaphyte | joez212: you don't necessarily have to have each phone in your house plugged into it's own ata. |
| 17:14.44 | BBHoss | joez212, you can plug your whole house into one if needed |
| 17:15.02 | joez212 | bbhoss: i dont understand that statement |
| 17:15.08 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, but they would not be independant of each other. |
| 17:15.14 | joez212 | each phone to have an extension must be separate? |
| 17:15.18 | BBHoss | yes |
| 17:15.29 | joez212 | ok tk |
| 17:15.30 | lunaphyte | if you're just experimenting, you can find a phone that's close to your asterisk computer and plug the ata into the wall jack and the phone that was connected to the wall jack with a splitter. |
| 17:15.31 | joez212 | that's what i mean |
| 17:15.33 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, You can plug your whole home onto 1 PORT and no, they would not be seperate. |
| 17:15.33 | BBHoss | see, each ATA as seen as its own extension |
| 17:15.42 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, independance requires wiring. |
| 17:15.54 | lunaphyte | just make absolutely sure you've disconnected your house's phone lines from your old phone service. |
| 17:15.59 | joez212 | well i do have a switch upstairs |
| 17:16.23 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, then you would run RJ11 for the ATA you'd place up there to the other phones. |
| 17:16.37 | lunaphyte | hmm, on that note - is REN much of an issue these days? |
| 17:16.48 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : depends how much you're asking for |
| 17:16.57 | joez212 | and the ATA has a network port that accepts cat5 network patch cable? |
| 17:17.02 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : each device varies in range. |
| 17:17.10 | BBHoss | joez212, yes |
| 17:17.11 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Yes, thats what ana ATA does |
| 17:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, 10/100 talking SIP on one end, 1 or more FXS on the other. |
| 17:18.48 | lunaphyte | [TK]D-Fender: i just remember the days when you had to be fairly cognizant of it - but i'd expect that with self powered phone being more ubiquitous these days, it would be less of a concern. |
| 17:19.17 | lunaphyte | although i guess folks also tend to have more phone these days too. |
| 17:19.27 | tzanger | most phones these days don't approach anywhere near the REN of an old carbon granule :-) |
| 17:19.53 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : well I'm not sure what method you'd use to evaluate the REN of a given phone, but the more self-powered they are I suppose you could stretch your devices written spec a tiny bit if you're lucky. I'd simply not bet on it to mcuh and aim for one that supports a higher REN to begin with |
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| 17:20.17 | clayc | hey, I have a question... how do I enable a dial tone when making calls? |
| 17:20.41 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, Dialtone from what? Calling using what? |
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| 17:20.49 | clayc | hi tkd :) |
| 17:21.09 | clayc | dialing out using an ata |
| 17:21.22 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, Your ATA provides its own dialtone. |
| 17:21.27 | clayc | I used to have one in vanilla asterisk, I switched to freepbx and there is no dial tone |
| 17:21.29 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, that isn't *'s job |
| 17:21.34 | BBHoss | heh |
| 17:21.39 | BBHoss | Goodbye: |
| 17:21.44 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, no dialtone = not registered to * properly. |
| 17:21.52 | clayc | I'm able to call out |
| 17:21.55 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, And don't bother asking for help with FreePBX here... |
| 17:22.15 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, if you didn't change your ATA, then if your configs problem. |
| 17:22.19 | [TK]D-Fender | its* |
| 17:22.24 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, which again falls to : |
| 17:22.27 | [TK]D-Fender | ~freepbx |
| 17:22.28 | jbot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there |
| 17:22.42 | BBHoss | now thats what i call a bug regression, moving from asterisk to freepbx :) |
| 17:23.12 | clayc | ahh... sorry, I thought it might be a quick fix |
| 17:23.18 | lunaphyte | [TK]D-Fender: i figured out the trick i was missing to get callerid working. |
| 17:23.27 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : what was it? |
| 17:24.00 | joez212 | ok guys so let's say i put 2 phones, connecting them to an ata... can I dial them from outside of the * network in my home? |
| 17:24.30 | lunaphyte | turns out you have to pay attention when you changing PSTN Answer Delay from 1 to 5, and not change the value in the field above it instead. :) |
| 17:24.36 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, that call has to reach * somehow. Where would this call be coming in from? |
| 17:24.40 | lunaphyte | err, when you're changing... |
| 17:24.43 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : SMRT |
| 17:24.58 | joez212 | tk: let' |
| 17:25.01 | joez212 | s say a cellphone |
| 17:25.23 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Again, thats where you're calling FROM. How is this call ARRIVING anywhere near *? |
| 17:25.32 | clayc | yeah, freepbx is kind of a pain in the ass |
| 17:25.46 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, I prefer the term "flaming piece of shit". |
| 17:25.53 | joez212 | tk: calling the telephone line for that particular home! my home |
| 17:25.58 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, Applies to several other things too like users.conf |
| 17:26.08 | clayc | I thought it would be really easy to setup since I already have my regular config files |
| 17:26.25 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Like I've told you about a half dozen times, the SPA-3102 will let you take in your HOME LINE so that * can use it. |
| 17:26.39 | lunaphyte | are there any ancillary resources asterisk can be configured to consult to lookup CID names when not available on a pstn line? |
| 17:26.40 | [TK]D-Fender | clayc, It OBLITERATES your files and owns your ass. |
| 17:26.51 | plik | joez212: you call your home -aserisk can be configred to pass the call to whichever extension(s) you line, or answer first and ;et the caller choose etc - whatever you like |
| 17:27.01 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : you can script your own, or use some sort of web lookup. |
| 17:27.12 | joez212 | so the phones dont ring anymore?? |
| 17:27.20 | joez212 | unless i set asterick to allow that?? |
| 17:27.24 | plik | they do if you want them to |
| 17:27.33 | plik | asterisk puts YOU incontrol |
| 17:27.35 | joez212 | i do get a lot of telemarketers calling! |
| 17:27.41 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Correct. the SPA-3102 gets the call and passes it to *. You can then HAVE * ring your phones or do whatever else you want |
| 17:27.55 | joez212 | wait a sec, that sounds quite poweful |
| 17:27.59 | lunaphyte | can web lookups be generally worth the trouble and effective, or will i end up parsing html and screen scraping? |
| 17:28.11 | joez212 | can i tell * to check the caller ID and say, "put this call to my voicemail box?" |
| 17:28.23 | plik | yup |
| 17:28.26 | Nugget | Can I tell asterisk to make you read the documentation? |
| 17:28.35 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, You could have * send people who annoy you to a message telling them to get lost, you can have a menu asking what the caller wants to do, or you could go right ahead and dial all of your ATAs and ring everything |
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| 17:29.06 | plik | Nugget: asterisk could even read the documentation to him... |
| 17:29.12 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Yes. You can have * lok at the CID, check the weather, see if the Knicks won their last game, and if its a tuesday night... well then NOW I just want to send them to voicemail. |
| 17:29.26 | joez212 | lol |
| 17:29.43 | BBHoss | don't forget asterisk can monitor your plants to see if they need water |
| 17:29.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Nugget, A simple IVR at most, maybe a call file to just call him and save the trouble of him dialing :) |
| 17:29.53 | joez212 | you guys are hilarous! |
| 17:29.53 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss, True |
| 17:30.04 | plik | I just got a call to tell me my torrent finished downloading :) |
| 17:30.08 | joez212 | can i setup * to log all of the caller ID data? |
| 17:30.14 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, My * used to make me COFFEE. This isn't a joke, people do tyhis crazy stuf "just because" |
| 17:30.20 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Yes. |
| 17:30.28 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, time to sit down and read the BOOK. |
| 17:30.29 | joez212 | oh i really like that |
| 17:30.29 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 17:30.30 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 17:30.55 | joez212 | woah i can download there famous books for free? :O |
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| 17:31.10 | BBHoss | yeah but Leif loves it if you buy the book :) |
| 17:31.10 | joez212 | i know you have probably repeated yourself 3 million times |
| 17:31.21 | tzanger | heh |
| 17:31.40 | joez212 | but if i go the * route, but if I do this.. none of the phones will work unless they plugged into an ata |
| 17:31.44 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, a billion more and I'll be in McDonalds bracket.... |
| 17:31.55 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, entirely true |
| 17:32.27 | BBHoss | joez212, if you want all of your phones to be independent, then yes |
| 17:32.41 | joez212 | this could be a hard sell, since my parents aren't too fond of technology lol |
| 17:32.45 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, but as we said you can plug you house wiring into 1 port on an ATA and THEY will be all "sharing" it, and you can do independant ATA's for the ones you want to operate separately. |
| 17:33.04 | joez212 | ok i'm trying to understand that last statement TK |
| 17:33.09 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, well you'll have to find out what it is about * they will want. |
| 17:33.10 | joez212 | let me try to break it down |
| 17:33.12 | BBHoss | if you just want your house phone to work as "normal" and just have a voice menu or something else, then it would only require 1 |
| 17:33.15 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, And you yourself want. |
| 17:33.47 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss, then again, a voice menu doesn't do as much when you can't call individual phones separately. |
| 17:33.49 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, I was actually wondering if the ATA devices were as "robust" as the ones from the telcos (ability to take more than one device-load per port) |
| 17:33.57 | BBHoss | [TK]D-Fender, true |
| 17:34.08 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, Yes, thats what our earlier discussion on REN was all about |
| 17:34.21 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, Typically most ATAs support 5-7 REN. |
| 17:34.29 | joez212 | ahh plug my house wiring into one port |
| 17:34.32 | kyron | sorry, I missed that (REN |
| 17:34.34 | kyron | ?) |
| 17:34.50 | joez212 | but that would elinate the ability to allow different telephones to have the different extension |
| 17:34.58 | lunaphyte | so, as the last component here, in the basic setup i've got to proof this out, is this appropriate for extensions.conf (where 1199 is the extension the spa is calling)? |
| 17:35.03 | kyron | ok, a standard acronym |
| 17:35.30 | lunaphyte | http://rafb.net/p/ENyF4666.html |
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| 17:36.11 | plik | joez212: were you in here the other day with the nick thomas_newbie per chance? |
| 17:36.20 | joez212 | plik: no |
| 17:36.30 | plik | ok, just wondered :) |
| 17:36.37 | plik | read the book and have fun |
| 17:36.45 | joez212 | i bet you guys get lots of noobs like me :( |
| 17:36.49 | joez212 | well tk is very patient |
| 17:36.57 | BBHoss | heh |
| 17:36.59 | joez212 | sorry if i pissed you guys off with my repitious questioning |
| 17:37.21 | joez212 | thats pretty amazing they got one of the famous reillys books on html |
| 17:37.28 | joez212 | but i think its best if i just go buy it |
| 17:37.40 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, exten => 1199,n,Playtones(ring) <- no need. your dial that follows will send ringing back all by itself |
| 17:38.18 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, thanks...but...uhh...whut? |
| 17:38.34 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, start with the download, look at the devices out there, maybe buy yourself *1* to start with (SPA-3102 good bet), and see what it is you want * to do for you exactly. |
| 17:39.02 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, No need to tell * to "ring", when you call the dial that follows that line it will already ring. |
| 17:39.13 | joez212 | tk: which download is that? |
| 17:39.37 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Download the PDF for now, set up *, play around a bit with a soft phone first |
| 17:39.40 | [TK]D-Fender | ~soft-phone |
| 17:39.43 | [TK]D-Fender | ~softphone |
| 17:39.44 | jbot | [~softphone] A soft-phone is a program that lets your computer use a compatible audio interface (usually a speaker&mic, or headset), and optionally a webcam, to place VoIP calls with a given protocol (SIP/IAX/H.323/MGCP/etc). For links enter ~zoiper , ~xlite , ~twinkle , ~bria , ~eyebeam |
| 17:39.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ~xlite |
| 17:39.47 | jbot | [~xlite] X-Lite is a free SIP soft-phone for Windows, MacOSX, and Linux that can be downloaded from http://www.counterpath.com/ |
| 17:40.13 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, And then maybe get yourself an SPA-3102 (never a loss). Then see where you want to go from there. |
| 17:40.22 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, that must have been for lunaphyte |
| 17:41.02 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, oops :) |
| 17:41.08 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : Yeah, see above :) |
| 17:41.17 | joez212 | tk: do you mean the oreilly asterick pdf? |
| 17:41.18 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, just getting dizzy |
| 17:41.22 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, yes,. |
| 17:41.31 | lunaphyte | ah, ok - thanks. |
| 17:41.38 | joez212 | ok thanks tk |
| 17:41.45 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, so you're suggesting an SPA-3102 instead of an internal card as a good "compromise" for a single home FXO? |
| 17:41.46 | joez212 | sorry if i upset you |
| 17:42.11 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, yup. For sinlg home FXo its MUCh cheaper, and handles failover. |
| 17:42.13 | joez212 | kyron: yes many faqs seem to praise the dignum as the starting point |
| 17:42.41 | [TK]D-Fender | joez212, Only point in buying a PCI card solution is for multi-line business use |
| 17:42.57 | joez212 | ok |
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| 17:43.06 | lunaphyte | joez212: btw - digium, not dignum :) |
| 17:43.07 | joez212 | i only have one line at my home |
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| 17:43.11 | [TK]D-Fender | or for connecting fax machines which I don't advise anyways |
| 17:43.14 | joez212 | heh |
| 17:44.27 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, nah, I am getting my VoIP suplyer to take care of the FAX (at 5$/month, it's the same price as getting a 2nd ring) |
| 17:45.18 | wishbone__ | asterisk can be used as a PSTN gateway ? |
| 17:45.26 | russellb | wishbone__: of course .. |
| 17:45.27 | amorphka | I got blue/yellow alarm all th time and it is with alternating yellow alarm. I use TE120p and PRI. What is the problem? |
| 17:45.46 | russellb | amorphka: you should contact support@digium.com |
| 17:46.08 | amorphka | @russellb: have you ever faced such error? |
| 17:47.05 | wishbone__ | russellb, so, it implements some protocol like MGCP, right? What gateway control protocols do asterisk support? |
| 17:47.23 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, heading off to martial arts. BBL |
| 17:47.26 | BBHoss | SIP, IAX2, SCCP, MGCP, Woomera, H.323, many more |
| 17:47.34 | amorphka | i can't solve it, and I need urgent help. No digium support :( |
| 17:48.26 | amorphka | alternating BLUE and YELLOW alarm? Any hint? |
| 17:48.28 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, which? |
| 17:48.57 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, Tenshin shoden katori shinto ryu |
| 17:49.15 | wishbone__ | BBHoss, Megaco also? |
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| 17:49.26 | lunaphyte | i notice when an incoming pstn call gets picked up by the spa and passed to asterisk, there's a bit of a hiccup in the ring timing the caller hears when the ring switches to being generated by asterisk. is this something that can be fiddled with at all? |
| 17:49.31 | [TK]D-Fender | wishbone__, Megaco = MGCP |
| 17:49.45 | [TK]D-Fender | wishbone__, And * onlys supports MGCP phones, not servers |
| 17:50.23 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyteNot realy... see the first ringing is synced from the telco, the second generated by *. We're talking "ms" here... not really workable |
| 17:50.32 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, I'm off. |
| 17:50.40 | wishbone__ | thanks all |
| 17:50.42 | lunaphyte | i kind of figured. |
| 17:51.01 | lunaphyte | [TK]D-Fendeer: thanks for all the help and insight - it's much appreciated. |
| 17:51.09 | lunaphyte | err [TK]D-Fender :) |
| 17:52.18 | BBHoss | amorphka, have you looked at what blue and yellow alarms ARE? |
| 17:52.59 | BBHoss | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Signal_1#Connectivity_and_Alarms |
| 17:53.41 | amorphka | BBHoss: Yes, I have done it already. I have tried everything, but nothing has helped... :( |
| 17:53.50 | lunaphyte | if i'd like to have discreet extensions for various phones in the house, but also wanted some traditional functionality (where if one person answered an incoming call, another person could pick up a different phone and participate in the conversation), would that mean that asterisk would have to handle all of the media streams? |
| 17:54.17 | amorphka | BBHoss: It seems that the "D" channel is down, but i don't know why |
| 17:54.20 | BBHoss | amorphka, do you have another device to test the PRI with? |
| 17:54.28 | amorphka | BBHoss: No :( |
| 17:54.48 | amorphka | BBHoss: This device is also 100km far from me :((( |
| 17:54.54 | BBHoss | heh |
| 17:55.05 | amorphka | BBHoss: What is "Sending Set Asynchronous Balanced Mode Extended"? |
| 17:55.21 | BBHoss | pastebin "pri show spans" or w/e it is |
| 17:55.24 | amorphka | BBHoss: intense pri debug said it.. |
| 17:56.07 | tzanger | lunaphyte: you would need to use a conference or use transfers |
| 17:57.26 | lunaphyte | tzanger: transferring sound like asterisk might not have to sit in the middle of the stream, but conferencing sounds like maybe it would. is that right? |
| 17:57.35 | tzanger | sounds about right |
| 17:57.39 | lunaphyte | ok |
| 17:59.46 | kyron | ok...so if I buy "the book"...where should I get it so the authors get the most $$$ ;) |
| 18:03.09 | lunaphyte | how can i set up a ring group so if i have a bunch of extensions all ringing the same set of phones, i don't have to change it in a bunch of places when i add or remove a phone from the group? |
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| 18:08.57 | clayc | I have a quick question... my us trunk voicepulse has a couple proxys to choose from... |
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| 18:09.18 | clayc | should I pick the one with the fastest ping time or the one closest to my geographical location |
| 18:09.23 | jacktaylor82 | hi all |
| 18:09.30 | clayc | the one closer has a bit worse ping time |
| 18:09.41 | clayc | sfo and ny, I'm in seattle |
| 18:11.34 | jacktaylor82 | ... |
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| 18:13.52 | jacktaylor82 | Anyone knows if exists a dialplan command to turn on the phone led? |
| 18:14.46 | ManxPower | jacktaylor82: in 1.6 there is support for that, but there are limits. |
| 18:15.30 | jacktaylor82 | can i use devstate to do that? |
| 18:16.05 | ManxPower | jacktaylor82: that is what I was referring to |
| 18:16.35 | jacktaylor82 | ok, thanks |
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| 18:36.52 | russellb | ManxPower: what limits are you referring to? |
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| 18:41.19 | riddlebox | rms is on geekspeak.org |
| 18:46.46 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 18:47.11 | drmessano | http://www.xkcd.org/378/ <-- This channel sometimes |
| 18:47.14 | weazahl | riddlebox: would it be better to turn off all the call features on the legend and let asterisk do ALL the switching? or just use asterisk as trunks and integrate the VM? |
| 18:47.16 | drmessano | http://www.xkcd.org/378/ <-- This channel most of the time |
| 18:48.12 | riddlebox | weazahl, I would use asterisk for voicemail |
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| 18:51.47 | weazahl | yeah, just use the asterisk as trunks w/ the t1 interface. one thing i am not understanding, what do i need to do to make the legend transfer the call, to say ext 107 when * dials 107 on the trunk? |
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| 19:42.49 | ManxPower | russellb: Well, for one thing the phone must support subscribe/notify |
| 19:43.02 | ManxPower | or whatever it is devstate monitors |
| 19:48.01 | drmessano | Phone must have an LED too |
| 19:48.05 | drmessano | Thats a limit :) |
| 19:51.53 | khronos | Any A2billing users around? I have a few questions about this program. |
| 19:55.06 | russellb | heh, sillyness |
| 19:56.08 | khronos | 1/window 3 |
| 19:56.12 | khronos | 1/window 2 |
| 19:57.35 | ManxPower | phone must be registered to the server doing the monitor too, that is a limit. |
| 19:57.59 | russellb | you must have a phone |
| 19:58.01 | russellb | that's also a limit |
| 19:58.05 | russellb | you must also have an asterisk server. |
| 19:58.26 | russellb | you must also not be blind, or else the state of the LED doesn't do much good. |
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| 19:58.47 | kyron | hmm...vibro-phone |
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| 20:24.40 | hmm-home | oh saturday |
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| 20:34.13 | tinloaf | hi. how can i tell asterisk which address to write in the VIA-Header of SIP messages? |
| 20:37.00 | hmm-home | i can't believe there is no automotive channel in freenode |
| 20:39.11 | UnixDog | #hotrod |
| 20:39.19 | UnixDog | #ford |
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| 20:39.24 | UnixDog | #chevy |
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| 20:42.58 | hmm-home | oh wait, the listing is down right now I'm retarded |
| 20:44.03 | jameswf-home | ~boing |
| 20:44.23 | jameswf-home | ~sip |
| 20:44.23 | jbot | methinks sip is http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/ X11 PPP dialer interface written in gtk+. URL: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/3104/sip/ Session Initiation Protocol (see RFC 3261) |
| 20:44.42 | jameswf-home | ~wtf |
| 20:44.59 | jameswf-home | ~ftw |
| 20:44.59 | jbot | rumour has it, ftw is wtf backwards, or for the win |
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| 20:45.49 | jameswf-home | My 53'' flat screen will be here soon WOOOOHOOOO |
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| 20:46.39 | jameswf-home | 4 more invhes and the nfl would send me a letter |
| 20:46.59 | jameswf-home | s/v/c |
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| 20:52.15 | husimon | it's switch to production day! |
| 20:57.38 | husimon | jameswf-home, 4 more inches of what? ;) |
| 20:59.31 | husimon | does anyone know of some heartbeat scripts that test sip? |
| 20:59.41 | husimon | normal heartbeat just checks ping |
| 21:02.45 | kyron | so...shipping is free if I get another book with "The Book"...any good suggestions? |
| 21:03.07 | kyron | They (amazon) suggest "Switching to VoIP"...but I have doubts.. |
| 21:03.39 | husimon | i dunno aren't you already running voip? |
| 21:03.56 | kyron | yeah... |
| 21:03.58 | husimon | are there any more asterisk books out there? |
| 21:04.00 | kyron | my point |
| 21:04.19 | husimon | oh let me see i have a few books I recommend for a sys admin |
| 21:04.35 | CrashSys | Did you try the tt-monkeys book? |
| 21:04.38 | CrashSys | The book of Ape? |
| 21:04.51 | husimon | "Time Management for system administrators" " is one |
| 21:05.09 | CrashSys | It's a free publication included with asterisk in the extra-sounds tarball... |
| 21:05.19 | CrashSys | Listen to it, lots of good Asterisk administration stuff in there :D |
| 21:05.36 | husimon | The Practice of System and Network Administration (Paperback) |
| 21:06.22 | eric2 | I'm running 1.4.1x and put app_valetparking.so in the modules directory and edited modules.conf to load the *.so but it isn't loading after a restart... is valet parking supported in 1.4.x? |
| 21:06.47 | mvanbaak | The Pragmatic Programmer <--- get that book |
| 21:07.06 | mvanbaak | and/or The Mythical Man Month |
| 21:08.19 | kyron | CrashSys, LOL...I was wondering what that sound file (in all the examples) is.. |
| 21:08.33 | husimon | "learning the vi editor" |
| 21:08.54 | kyron | mvanbaak, tpp doesn't show up |
| 21:08.56 | CrashSys | Vi? THat's the country code for Vietnam right? |
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| 21:09.02 | kyron | husimon, meh, I use google for that.. |
| 21:09.15 | kyron | CrashSys, nano user huh^ |
| 21:09.16 | kyron | ? |
| 21:09.19 | CrashSys | pico! |
| 21:09.35 | husimon | kyron yeah me too |
| 21:09.58 | mvanbaak | kyron: ISBN-10: 020161622X ISBN-13: 978-0201616224 |
| 21:10.35 | kyron | mvanbaak, thanks! |
| 21:12.01 | neonerz | is anyone in here using meetme3? I can't get cbmysql to register for the life of me |
| 21:12.43 | kyron | which reminds me, I was wondering which programming interface the * devs use (ie: eclipse?) |
| 21:12.53 | neonerz | I keep getting an error that it can't connect to the DB when it tries to load app_cbmysql.so |
| 21:14.38 | mvanbaak | kyron: most use vim |
| 21:15.22 | kyron | mvanbaak, ah! hence the non-generic Makefile |
| 21:16.34 | kyron | then I would definately need to polish my vim usage to more than `/(search) yy P split` :P |
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| 21:19.02 | russellb | using vim leads to a non-generic makefile? |
| 21:22.02 | mvanbaak | I was wondering as well |
| 21:22.18 | kyron | as opposed to non-auto-generated-full-of-wtf |
| 21:22.26 | kyron | ;) |
| 21:23.50 | kyron | I'd be tempted to say "more human readable" but stringfields.h seems to contradict me there :P |
| 21:24.31 | russellb | ha |
| 21:24.42 | russellb | well, the stringields API itself is certainly pretty straight forward ... |
| 21:24.48 | russellb | the code ... that's another question |
| 21:25.12 | russellb | the guy that wrote it uses emacs :-p |
| 21:25.15 | kyron | oh, yeah, the API, NP, the code O_o... |
| 21:25.25 | kyron | bbiab |
| 21:25.27 | russellb | agreed :) |
| 21:25.34 | hmm-home | how difficult would it be to make a dynamic feature execute the app you are calling to both channels instead of just the opposite channel? |
| 21:26.18 | husimon | anyone use heartbeat with asterisk? if so i'm just wondering how you sync files |
| 21:27.05 | mvanbaak | drbd |
| 21:28.34 | husimon | for which dirs? |
| 21:29.04 | husimon | just make a drbd and then change the dirs in asterisk.conf? |
| 21:29.14 | mvanbaak | yup |
| 21:29.33 | mvanbaak | that's what we did before everything moved to a netapp |
| 21:29.43 | husimon | by netapp what do you mean |
| 21:29.46 | husimon | san ? |
| 21:29.50 | mvanbaak | yus |
| 21:29.52 | husimon | ah |
| 21:29.54 | husimon | how did it work out? |
| 21:29.56 | husimon | the drbd |
| 21:30.06 | mvanbaak | it worked great for 2 years in production |
| 21:30.18 | husimon | you wouldn't happen to have your old configs would you? |
| 21:30.23 | husimon | or your current heartbeat |
| 21:30.24 | mvanbaak | nope |
| 21:30.41 | mvanbaak | we dont use heartbeat anymore |
| 21:30.48 | husimon | oh? sip proxies? |
| 21:30.53 | mvanbaak | we now have a bunch of openbsd boxen that do the routing for us |
| 21:31.08 | husimon | so you must use a sip trunk and not pri's |
| 21:31.17 | mvanbaak | indeed |
| 21:31.19 | mvanbaak | pure voip |
| 21:31.23 | husimon | yeah that makes things easier |
| 21:31.25 | husimon | we have a pri |
| 21:31.27 | jameswf-home | ~bsd |
| 21:31.28 | jbot | BSD is a UNIX operating system. An asterisk port is currently being worked on, or a way to set your pc back 30 years, progress is overrated |
| 21:31.30 | husimon | which I have to failover |
| 21:32.31 | mvanbaak | the movie ? |
| 21:32.37 | mvanbaak | or the original bbc series ? |
| 21:33.18 | jameswf-home | no the movie.... i didnt know there was a series I was going to be a smart ass and say no the book it is just sitting there |
| 21:33.23 | husimon | well I guess i'll try setting up drbd |
| 21:33.28 | husimon | i was going to use csync2 |
| 21:33.29 | husimon | or rsync |
| 21:33.52 | mvanbaak | drbd is near realtime |
| 21:37.19 | husimon | i'm curious to test if astdb will work if it is copie |
| 21:37.23 | husimon | my forwards are in that file |
| 21:37.33 | husimon | flags to tell the macro to forward, etc |
| 21:37.36 | husimon | that the users can set |
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| 21:42.05 | kyron | mvanbaak, cool... would you happen to know if drbd works "well" across a wan, say over 2 cable modems...? I wanna have 2 dirs in sync for 2 offices ;) |
| 21:42.49 | kyron | mvanbaak, meh...forget that...just read the 2 first line on their site "dedicated network"... |
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| 21:44.02 | jameswf-home | WOOHOO the tv people are on there way a little over an hour to big screen |
| 21:44.29 | kyron | jameswf-home, I joy for you :P |
| 21:44.46 | [TK]D-Fender | "talks does yoda funny, hmmmmMMMM!?!?!?!" |
| 21:44.50 | jameswf-home | superbowl at my house.... |
| 21:45.04 | kyron | [TK]D-Fender, indeed do he yes does! |
| 21:45.16 | jameswf-home | there is somethinf almost life like aout pron on a big tv |
| 21:45.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, I'm sure mine is still bigger :) |
| 21:45.33 | kyron | Wohoooo...only 3 packages to emerge until I start compiling the kernel and installing * on this Gentoo base system :P |
| 21:45.40 | kyron | Joy needs no definition |
| 21:46.00 | jameswf-home | Well I cant get much bigger without dropping another thousand or getting a projector |
| 21:46.04 | husimon | i'll just buy a projector and a screen and it will be way bigger :) |
| 21:46.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, Which is what I'm running, projection @ 120" :D |
| 21:46.37 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, and my setup was dirt cheap. |
| 21:47.01 | jameswf-home | shhhh the NFL will shut you down they have a 56" limit without paying some syupid license crap |
| 21:47.46 | [TK]D-Fender | that is such a flaming pile of bullshit its not funny... |
| 21:48.18 | jameswf-home | keep a porn on standby a suit walks up to the door tell em the 50 people came to watch porn |
| 21:49.16 | neonerz | grrrrr asterisk wont load cbmysql wtf! |
| 21:55.03 | CrashSys | Well the NFL is the 51st state... |
| 21:55.09 | CrashSys | they kind of do whatever they want :) |
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| 21:56.23 | jameswf-home | Ntional Fonality league |
| 21:56.32 | russellb | o.O |
| 21:57.01 | outtolunc | oh no he did'nt <G> |
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| 21:58.48 | jameswf-home | they have olmost completely stripped all the freepbx branding out of there next release... |
| 21:59.12 | kyron | G...am-I the only non-sport-fan on the channel O_o.. |
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| 21:59.42 | CrashSys | I just like watching the idiots that get into the rivalries |
| 21:59.54 | jameswf-home | I am not a supportfan but its better to say I got the big tv for the superbowl than porn |
| 22:00.06 | jameswf-home | *sports fan |
| 22:00.32 | outtolunc | i bet vlc download tripled the past week |
| 22:01.41 | jameswf-home | I only watch for the commercials and I use to watch the half time until it was turned over to the disney kids.... |
| 22:02.08 | CrashSys | I youtube the commercials |
| 22:02.10 | CrashSys | he |
| 22:02.13 | CrashSys | h |
| 22:02.19 | russellb | o.O ... you got a 50 whatever inch tv just to watch commercials? |
| 22:02.21 | russellb | that is ridiculous |
| 22:02.27 | jameswf-home | watch next year hillary duff and hannah montana |
| 22:02.39 | CrashSys | pr0n? |
| 22:02.53 | jameswf-home | no I hot a 53'' for morn... and myth busters but not at the same time |
| 22:03.08 | jameswf-home | s/m/p/ |
| 22:03.17 | russellb | m and p aren't even close to each other :) |
| 22:03.30 | jameswf-home | I hsve a korean keyboard |
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| 22:11.14 | lunaphyte | kyron: no, there's a few of us, i imagine. |
| 22:18.11 | jameswf-home | become an ftocc tb engineer... http://www.trixbox.com/support-and-training/training/ftocc-engineer :) |
| 22:18.30 | neonerz | grrrr i finally got cbmysql to load, but now its telling me invalid conference number |
| 22:18.34 | neonerz | getting close though! |
| 22:18.43 | [TK]D-Fender | kyron, I to could care less for team sports, expecially televised |
| 22:20.23 | jameswf-home | I like live sports except basketball and socker those suck... but for seets where you can see the field and not actualy watch tv anyway is like $7000 each for tomorrow f that |
| 22:21.01 | jameswf-home | note those arent good seats |
| 22:21.34 | jameswf-home | plus glendale is like a 2 hour drive |
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| 22:29.58 | husimon | i'm kind of disappointed at the person performing this year for superbowl |
| 22:30.02 | lunaphyte | how can i set up a ring group so if i have a bunch of extensions all ringing the same set of phones, i don't have to change it in a bunch of places when i add or remove a phone from the group? |
| 22:31.05 | husimon | i'd guess organize your dial plan better |
| 22:31.20 | husimon | but that is of course what you are asking how to do |
| 22:31.42 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : in a single dial statement. |
| 22:32.23 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : if that extension is to appear in a bumch of places, add extra jumps as either Goto's or Include's |
| 22:32.32 | lunaphyte | hmm so it isn't possible to say something like exten => 7508,n,Dial(${somegroup) ? |
| 22:34.43 | tsabi | hey, can i have a small question? if i use vanilla linux kernel for my linux box, what version is the best to use? the latest, or a mature one, like 2.6.20? |
| 22:36.54 | phix | I use what ever comes with Debian |
| 22:37.52 | phix | Then again I do have asterisk boxes with a kernel that I compiled my self (well I used the debian kernel-package package to compile it and make a deb out of it) |
| 22:38.31 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : Sure |
| 22:39.15 | [TK]D-Fender | tsabi, Usually the kernel doesn't matter so much, but aI suppose being a handful of revisions behind would be a more predictable way to go |
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| 22:40.00 | tsabi | i see, thnx |
| 22:40.32 | lunaphyte | what terms should i use to look for info regarding doing that? |
| 22:41.06 | [TK]D-Fender | lunaphyte : just define your global variable under [globals] and thats it for the sample you just gave |
| 22:41.18 | lunaphyte | oh, ok. |
| 22:41.38 | jameswf-home | I love the movies dude just took out a tank with a gernade |
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| 22:47.37 | jameswf-home | n |
| 22:49.46 | husimon | i saw a terrible movie last night |
| 22:49.49 | husimon | XXX 2 |
| 22:50.15 | husimon | http://www.amazon.co.uk/XXX-2-Level-Ice-Cube/dp/B0009NZ1KM |
| 22:50.25 | husimon | talk about lame cheesy straight to dvd action movie |
| 22:51.18 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, It hit theaters... |
| 22:51.25 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, and I've seen FAR FAR worse |
| 22:52.03 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, "The Arrival 2" , "Starship Troopers 2". Either of those make "xXx 2" look oscar-worthy by comparison |
| 22:52.06 | husimon | lol |
| 22:52.19 | husimon | i didn't watch starship troopers 2 |
| 22:52.23 | husimon | but I think i've seen the arrival 2 |
| 22:52.32 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, Explains why you aren't in a coma right now... |
| 22:52.39 | husimon | laugh |
| 22:53.00 | husimon | I was just sitting there going, wtf guys in my house, why are you watching this crap.. and WTF why is samuel L jackson in this movie? |
| 22:53.11 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, I'm serious, it caused actual PAIN to sit through it. My mind was convulsing. |
| 22:53.20 | husimon | i know the feeling |
| 22:53.23 | husimon | painful comedies do that to me |
| 22:53.34 | husimon | i just wanna scream out and go wtf this is so stupid. |
| 22:53.47 | lunaphyte | i felt like that when i watched a scanner darkly. |
| 22:53.56 | lunaphyte | pain, that is. |
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| 22:54.00 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, I'm not talking a comedy. I'm talking like "Holy shit.. make ...it.. END! Is it over yet!? Is there no God!??!!? PLEASE!!!!!!!" |
| 22:54.03 | husimon | it's funny because I can go back and watch old schwarzanegger movies and be ok. |
| 22:54.18 | husimon | or demolition man |
| 22:54.21 | lunaphyte | commando was on the other day. that's a classic. |
| 22:54.32 | husimon | i need to see the new rambo |
| 22:54.46 | husimon | and by need I mean i'll find some way of not paying to see it. |
| 22:55.01 | husimon | [TK]D-Fender, did you watch the last rocky? |
| 22:55.13 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, Yes, really not that bad.. |
| 22:55.45 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, better than 5, and maybe 4 as well. |
| 22:56.09 | husimon | yeah I found it kind of good in some places |
| 22:56.30 | husimon | kind of sad when he was reminiscing |
| 22:57.10 | husimon | sort of sad though, like when arnold came back to play that fire fighter, what movie was that, hmm. |
| 22:57.18 | husimon | way out of shape and old |
| 22:57.47 | husimon | collateral damage |
| 22:58.44 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, Yeah, he's way far gone, and he shrunk considerably by T3 for which I CAN believe that Kristanna Loken could kick his sorry ass :) |
| 22:59.08 | husimon | i heard there was a t4 |
| 22:59.27 | husimon | no more arnold though |
| 22:59.29 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, In the works, supposedly with Christian Bale as John Connor |
| 22:59.39 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, Which means it might actually be good. |
| 22:59.43 | husimon | wow yeah |
| 22:59.48 | husimon | i'm waiting to see dark knight |
| 22:59.52 | husimon | definitely going to theatre for that |
| 23:02.16 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, I'm not sure how their going to deal with Heath Ledgers death... not sure if his role to fill was complete enough. |
| 23:02.33 | lunaphyte | he was done, supposedly. |
| 23:02.34 | russellb | you mean finished filming? |
| 23:02.38 | russellb | yeah, he was already working on another movie |
| 23:03.53 | husimon | [TK]D-Fender, yeah I dunno, i just watched the trailer and it looks pretty good. |
| 23:04.16 | husimon | but yeah I thought joker was around a little more |
| 23:04.30 | husimon | are you sure he dies? |
| 23:04.48 | russellb | what? |
| 23:05.00 | russellb | i _know_ you're not trying to spoil a movie. |
| 23:05.05 | russellb | i would so ban you |
| 23:05.16 | husimon | i have no idea if he dies or not |
| 23:05.29 | [TK]D-Fender | husimon, the ACTOR is dead, and I'm not they were 100% finsihed shooting everything he'd be in |
| 23:05.34 | russellb | his comment was referring to the actor's death in real life ... |
| 23:05.39 | husimon | oh wow yeah I didn't know that |
| 23:06.21 | husimon | what a surprise, drug overdose |
| 23:07.03 | husimon | wow he JUST died |
| 23:07.23 | husimon | im pretty sure they were done filming by this jan |
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| 23:15.58 | FlatFoot | are drugs are prerequisete of acing ? seems that way |
| 23:16.15 | FlatFoot | *acting |
| 23:17.16 | Aurelis | and rockin out |
| 23:17.22 | Aurelis | possibly being emo too |
| 23:17.35 | FlatFoot | emo ?? |
| 23:18.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ~emo |
| 23:18.03 | jbot | /wrists |
| 23:18.05 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 23:18.26 | Aurelis | hehe |
| 23:18.31 | jameswf-home | fuq yeah tv has arived... now i need to get a cable to turn it in to a monitor |
| 23:18.44 | FlatFoot | nope ! still not with it on emo , got a litarel desc ? |
| 23:19.33 | eric2 | is there a way to setup call parking with multiple contexts? or is there a better route some other way? |
| 23:19.40 | [TK]D-Fender | FlatFoot, Picture a whiny "oh woe is me and everything is black goth". |
| 23:19.59 | FlatFoot | is a knife included ? |
| 23:20.21 | outtolunc | they call it a dagger i think |
| 23:20.26 | [TK]D-Fender | FlatFoot, Yeah they usually bring their own. |
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| 23:20.55 | [TK]D-Fender | outtolunc, Athemae for the pseudo-wiccan blessid-wannabes |
| 23:20.56 | FlatFoot | aha if scottish a ski 'n' doo then |
| 23:20.58 | jdspencer | Hello fine Asterisk folks |
| 23:21.23 | jdspencer | I have an interesting DTMF issue... On only the number 4. |
| 23:21.56 | jdspencer | I'm using SIP INFO to pass tones, my problem comes when I'm passing it over my Digium TE420P to the PRI. |
| 23:22.23 | jdspencer | A debug shows that Asterisk is in fact sending the proper messages on the PRI... but the higher of the two DTMF tones is not played. |
| 23:22.27 | jdspencer | Any ideas? |
| 23:22.34 | [TK]D-Fender | jdspencer, whats your sip device |
| 23:22.36 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
| 23:22.40 | jdspencer | multiple |
| 23:22.45 | jdspencer | Mitel 5340 |
| 23:22.48 | jdspencer | Cisco 7941 |
| 23:23.03 | jdspencer | issue repeats across both types |
| 23:23.04 | [TK]D-Fender | jdspencer, try switching them to rfc2833 |
| 23:23.27 | jdspencer | tried it... no change |
| 23:23.35 | jdspencer | SIP to SIP communication plays correctly |
| 23:23.41 | jdspencer | SIP to PSTN is where we have a breakdown |
| 23:23.59 | jdspencer | I'm suspicious of the zap area of the spectrum |
| 23:24.49 | [TK]D-Fender | jdspencer, * ivrs pick it up fine? |
| 23:25.19 | jdspencer | I haven't checked an * IVR |
| 23:25.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jdspencer, then do so. |
| 23:25.32 | jdspencer | I could run a DTMF detect in my dialplan and check |
| 23:25.36 | jdspencer | brb |
| 23:26.12 | jameswf-home | http://picasaweb.google.com/jfinstrom/GeneralUnsorted/photo#5162528007642912882 < new toy :D |
| 23:27.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, Looks healthily sized... short-depth DLP RP? |
| 23:28.10 | jameswf-home | d - ila |
| 23:28.23 | [TK]D-Fender | ? |
| 23:28.28 | [TK]D-Fender | unfamiliar. |
| 23:29.52 | jameswf-home | May be an RCA propriatary thing |
| 23:30.05 | [TK]D-Fender | RCA? :/ |
| 23:30.18 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, no, If its 12" thick, its RP |
| 23:30.28 | jameswf-home | http://www.jvc.com/Presentations/HDILA/advantage.html |
| 23:30.33 | jameswf-home | sadly proj |
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| 23:31.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, ok, RP, but not straight DLP, or 3-gun. |
| 23:31.31 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, how $? |
| 23:31.34 | jameswf-home | I was balancing size and budget I am not a big tv person |
| 23:31.36 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, for what size? |
| 23:31.47 | jameswf-home | 53" 1700 |
| 23:31.54 | [TK]D-Fender | 1700$?!?!?!?! |
| 23:32.31 | russellb | jameswf-home: you just made him mess himself |
| 23:33.11 | jdspencer | D-Fender, sir... a quick check using DISA finds dtmf is recognized properly |
| 23:33.15 | jdspencer | Just not generated so. |
| 23:33.27 | [TK]D-Fender | jdspencer, What zaptel ver? |
| 23:33.36 | jdspencer | latest 1.4 |
| 23:33.37 | jameswf-home | could have done better online but it was a wife kicking me purchace |
| 23:34.37 | [TK]D-Fender | jdspencer, ok, I'm at a bit of a loss now.. |
| 23:34.40 | jameswf-home | << watching fight science, special forces |
| 23:34.53 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, well do get as much out of it as you can. |
| 23:35.19 | jdspencer | curses... |
| 23:35.24 | jameswf-home | It is mostly for the wife I work 50-60 hours and still try to sleep |
| 23:35.26 | jdspencer | Thanks for t |
| 23:35.31 | jdspencer | he help |
| 23:35.43 | kyron | lunaphyte, [TK]D-Fender few...good to know (televised team sports...meh!..buh Humbug!) |
| 23:35.46 | husimon | jameswf-home, you mean you didn't get a lcd? |
| 23:35.57 | jdspencer | anyone else want to have a go at the weird DTMF generation issue? |
| 23:36.14 | jdspencer | The number 4, it's yours for the low low price of OMFG. |
| 23:36.16 | jameswf-home | the LCD we saw was only 42" |
| 23:36.29 | husimon | i was pondering 50" plasma |
| 23:36.45 | kyron | isn't plasma out? |
| 23:36.53 | husimon | no |
| 23:36.56 | jameswf-home | plasma is so 2003 |
| 23:37.07 | jameswf-home | projection is so 1076 lol |
| 23:37.10 | kyron | Think I saw a 50" for 1.6k at Cosco.. |
| 23:37.12 | jameswf-home | *1976 |
| 23:37.16 | kyron | LOL |
| 23:37.30 | husimon | I mean sure i'd love a 50" lcd 1080p |
| 23:37.32 | husimon | but pretty expensive |
| 23:39.23 | jameswf-home | once I hook it up as a monitor it will be worth it....... |
| 23:39.25 | jameswf-home | :) |
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| 23:39.57 | kyron | jameswf-home, lots of console space :P |
| 23:40.10 | kyron | could do a few split and vsplit in vim with that ;) |
| 23:40.11 | husimon | jameswf-home, to your earlier comment, i don't understand why they made two fight type shows |
| 23:40.14 | jameswf-home | there is a program called quad console... |
| 23:40.28 | husimon | jameswf-home, its just like how they have that new retarded show that is similar to mythbusters |
| 23:40.39 | husimon | jameswf-home, that show is so lame |
| 23:40.57 | husimon | smash labs |
| 23:41.03 | jameswf-home | yeah we use to watch most dangerous catch now there is 5 clones |
| 23:41.18 | CrashSys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHcDP_Yew-g |
| 23:41.24 | CrashSys | best mythbusters ever |
| 23:41.26 | jameswf-home | ice road truckers is kinda cool |
| 23:41.30 | husimon | at least mythbusters has a premise |
| 23:41.40 | husimon | smash labs makes up a fake premise that they are doing it for safety testing |
| 23:41.42 | husimon | bullshit they are |
| 23:41.47 | husimon | it's just to break stuff for entertainment |
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| 23:42.05 | CrashSys | Husi: it's to cash in on the jackass/tom-green generation |
| 23:42.16 | husimon | CrashSys, yeah but mythbusters does it so much better |
| 23:42.20 | kyron | hmm-home, building kernel here for a * machine...pondering on which I/O scheduler I should select... Anticipatory, Deadline or CFQ... |
| 23:42.24 | husimon | CrashSys, yeah i saw that link you posted |
| 23:42.51 | jameswf-home | we should submit bsd vs linux to mythbusters |
| 23:43.15 | kyron | jameswf-home, quad console huh...interesting |
| 23:43.21 | CrashSys | Mythbusters new episode: Can windows outperform Linux? |
| 23:43.22 | kyron | jameswf-home, LOL |
| 23:43.29 | kyron | Myth! |
| 23:43.50 | jameswf-home | I thought ask a ninja on mythbusters was pretty good |
| 23:44.48 | kyron | yeah, that one was cool too.. |
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| 23:47.15 | husimon | in regards to console space on your tv |
| 23:47.23 | husimon | isn' tit only 1380x720 or some such ress? |
| 23:47.59 | jameswf-home | tits? |
| 23:48.01 | jameswf-home | ~tits |
| 23:48.09 | jameswf-home | doh |
| 23:48.29 | CrashSys | husimon for president |
| 23:49.28 | husimon | :) |
| 23:49.30 | husimon | isn't it |
| 23:49.40 | CrashSys | nevermind |
| 23:50.09 | husimon | it's funny that talking stupid now equates to being president |
| 23:50.46 | husimon | I have a bandage on a finger and it's screwing up my typing. |
| 23:50.47 | CrashSys | worked for bush :D |
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| 23:53.51 | jameswf-home | This is why gore lost and why we cant elect hillary they just arent funny |
| 23:54.03 | husimon | laugh |
| 23:54.48 | jameswf-home | we need to elect ron paul or McCain cause they will be funny and keep comedy writers their jobs |
| 23:55.37 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, Ixnay McCain.... |
| 23:56.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, You can mock RP all you want but McCain is a loose cannon and to dangerous to elad. |
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| 23:56.02 | [TK]D-Fender | lead* |
| 23:56.17 | AloSmart | Hi all |
| 23:56.29 | AloSmart | what's cooking today, |
| 23:56.34 | husimon | apple pie |
| 23:56.41 | jameswf-home | Yeah McCain with his finger on the button that controls all the nukes flippin sweet |
| 23:57.04 | jameswf-home | that vain starts to pulse |
| 23:57.14 | J4k3 | its a gimp fight |
| 23:57.34 | J4k3 | its mccain vs the democrats... and your democratic choices are obama bin laden, and the woman who won't give a bj. |
| 23:57.37 | husimon | it's unfortunate that we have canidates in the democratic party that people would hesitate voting for based on their sex or race. |
| 23:58.09 | J4k3 | and mccain is the biggest douchebag the republican party has |
| 23:58.28 | husimon | i would guess a majority doesn't want a republican president |
| 23:58.30 | J4k3 | I'd like to send him and his family to iraq for the next 100 years. |
| 23:58.33 | husimon | but given the choices it might happen. |
| 23:58.47 | jameswf-home | they have already said this election will be more about who you vote against not for... there really is no one to ote for... like american idol we have run out of talent |
| 23:58.53 | [TK]D-Fender | J4k3, Considering Obama is christian that tag really doesn't fit. |
| 23:58.55 | J4k3 | of course, what would come home would be a 99.99 year old skeleton :P |
| 23:59.26 | [TK]D-Fender | jameswf-home, no, RP, DK, and JE have all dropped out, any would be worthy choices. |
| 23:59.34 | J4k3 | [TK]D-Fender: and christians aren't masters of terror? |
| 23:59.37 | J4k3 | its a two way street. |
| 23:59.40 | husimon | laugh |
| 23:59.50 | husimon | i don't think obama is pro war.. |
