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| 00:09.06 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: I just looked up how I did it (a while ago) but is actually nothing more then a queue reserved for 1 agent. |
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| 00:10.05 | Ksilebo | Anyone have experience setting up Cisco 7940s? |
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| 01:16.52 | gitguy | hey |
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| 01:17.02 | gitguy | i made asterisk run behind a nat/firewall |
| 01:17.03 | gitguy | with SIP |
| 01:17.07 | gitguy | but i can't hear sound |
| 01:17.11 | gitguy | how do i fix that? |
| 01:17.13 | seanbright | ~sipnat |
| 01:17.14 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 01:17.20 | [TK]D-Fender | gitguy, Congrats, what was the final piece to fixing it? |
| 01:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | gitguy, guess you DIDN'T fix it... |
| 01:17.45 | gitguy | [TK]D-Fender: i just opened some ports |
| 01:17.53 | gitguy | and put nat=yes |
| 01:17.58 | gitguy | in sip.conf |
| 01:18.05 | [TK]D-Fender | gitguy, you need 5060 & 10000-20000 UDP forwarded |
| 01:18.42 | [TK]D-Fender | gitguy, follow the guide and if you have problems, then its your NAT (either side) being defective, or other firewalling in between. |
| 01:19.02 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, stepping out for a while, back later. |
| 01:19.29 | gitguy | thanks |
| 01:19.40 | gitguy | but i would prefer to get a hosting without NAT |
| 01:19.52 | gitguy | my boss just don't listen to me |
| 01:19.54 | gitguy | he's a moron |
| 01:20.39 | gitguy | he wants to make connectivy "easier" |
| 01:21.03 | gitguy | i suggested him a real server without nat/firewall and with a real public ip address |
| 01:21.07 | gitguy | and a lot of DIDs |
| 01:21.14 | gitguy | that will make connectivity easier imho |
| 01:21.22 | outtolunc | tell him to pull the string tighter and talk more slowly into the can |
| 01:21.46 | gitguy | lol |
| 01:21.59 | gitguy | but every time i suggest something to him he comes with something stupid |
| 01:22.01 | gitguy | and then he goes away |
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| 01:31.46 | gitguy | [TK]D-Fender: 5060 & 10000-20000 forwarded to the public ip address? |
| 01:35.20 | MaartenB | hey guys, is it possible to have a ringing sound when a queue is empty and there is only one caller? |
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| 01:35.43 | MaartenB | I have people hanging up now because the think they have to wait, while there are agents available :) |
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| 01:45.35 | gitguy | do you recommend running asterisk on virtualized environment for production? |
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| 01:45.41 | gitguy | i understand that timming is faster on real hardware |
| 01:45.51 | gitguy | but what about if i don't need that? or is timming only for conference? |
| 01:46.40 | gitguy | s/timming/timing |
| 01:47.08 | gitguy | bah, i will just go with real hardware |
| 01:47.13 | gitguy | instead |
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| 02:24.29 | dkwiebe | I was grumbling earlier about not hearing recordings from my asterisk system. It turns out I needed to add "acpi=on apic=on" in grub.conf |
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| 02:44.25 | korihor | coppice: hi :) |
| 02:45.07 | coppice | hi. you'res is not the only place with non-standard R2 :-) |
| 02:45.54 | korihor | ok :p |
| 02:46.16 | korihor | do you read my email? |
| 02:46.27 | coppice | yes |
| 02:46.53 | korihor | ok, is useful for you? |
| 02:47.49 | coppice | yes, thanks. I thought your DTMF dialing would be stuctured in some way - e.g. *<ani>*<dnis>* - but it seems to be pure DTMF |
| 02:49.06 | korihor | yes, to telco don't care about that. i mean dnis |
| 02:49.13 | korihor | only ani :p |
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| 02:53.31 | korihor | coppice: you see moy patch's http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=12509 ? |
| 02:54.28 | korihor | coppice: moy need a people that know dsp.c :p |
| 02:54.57 | coppice | well, he could avoid all this hassle by just not bothering :-) |
| 02:55.20 | korihor | ok :) |
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| 02:56.12 | coppice | do you know anything about the digivoice stuff? |
| 02:57.02 | korihor | coppice: no really. what is digivoice? |
| 02:57.29 | coppice | its a brazilian card maker, that supplies their own R2 implementation with the card |
| 02:57.45 | korihor | ahhhh i know who are that people |
| 02:59.52 | korihor | coppice: i don't test that for now |
| 03:00.28 | korihor | coppice: digivoice implementation support DTMF/R2? |
| 03:01.21 | coppice | I don't think so. They seem to only supply the Brazilian market |
| 03:01.34 | korihor | ok |
| 03:04.05 | korihor | coppice: i have done monitor an E1 and believe that find a bug in G.732 implementation for Digium card :( |
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| 03:05.46 | coppice | someone else was complaining about that for one of digium's new cards. what exactly have you found? |
| 03:06.12 | MaartenB | does somebody has a ringing tone that I can play as on hold music? |
| 03:06.15 | korihor | coppice : http://pastebin.com/m48d8a532 |
| 03:07.01 | coppice | which card? |
| 03:08.44 | korihor | coppice: TE407P |
| 03:09.57 | korihor | coppice : look zaptel-1.4/kernel/wct4xxp/base.c line 1978 |
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| 03:10.36 | korihor | coppice: i believe that don't set bits to 1 :( |
| 03:10.54 | jameswf-home | you can play rick astley as a ringback |
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| 03:13.03 | jameswf-home | Dial(Zap/1,500,m(rickroll)) |
| 03:13.15 | JerJer[mobile] | anyone skilled with jabber / xmpp ? |
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| 03:13.46 | drmessano | What are you trying to do with Jabber? |
| 03:13.49 | JerJer[mobile] | i can't figure out WTF this means http://www.pastebin.ca/998924 |
| 03:14.30 | JerJer[mobile] | ultimately all that garbage boils down to "requested name is already in use" |
| 03:14.37 | jameswf-home | well it means your configuration is wrong |
| 03:14.45 | drmessano | Your config is wrong |
| 03:14.57 | JerJer[mobile] | ok - where/how? I followed the config guide i found |
| 03:15.08 | jameswf-home | jameswf-home: and drmessano share the captain obvious awards |
| 03:15.09 | jameswf-home | :) |
| 03:15.12 | JerJer[mobile] | and clients other than OpenSER work perfectly |
| 03:15.29 | JerJer[mobile] | that is debug from OpenSER's xmpp module |
| 03:15.39 | jameswf-home | ~openser |
| 03:15.40 | jbot | it has been said that openser is an open source GPL project that aims to develop a robust and scalable SIP server. It is spawned from FhG FOKUS SIP Express Router (SER) and it promotes a development strategy open for contributors and contributions. From project's website http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/About+OpenSER |
| 03:15.53 | jameswf-home | yay |
| 03:16.07 | coppice | korihor: they may have broken something recently. I've not had that trouble with other TE410 cards, which use the same driver |
| 03:16.10 | JerJer[mobile] | so what name is being requested ? |
| 03:17.01 | JerJer[mobile] | and what config is wrong - openser or jabberd2 ? |
| 03:17.29 | Qwell | ser does xmpp now? |
| 03:17.31 | drmessano | [23:13] <JerJer[mobile]> and clients other than OpenSER work perfectly <-- herein lies your answer |
| 03:17.53 | drmessano | "Everything else works but this" <---- "this" is "poop" |
| 03:17.53 | JerJer[mobile] | Qwell: has for a bit |
| 03:18.15 | JerJer[mobile] | so then what 'name' is being requested then? |
| 03:18.26 | drmessano | Is that a real output? |
| 03:18.31 | drmessano | Or did you mask names? |
| 03:18.41 | JerJer[mobile] | it is censored |
| 03:18.51 | drmessano | Well, it's hard to say then |
| 03:19.16 | JerJer[mobile] | there is only one openser connection using valid.dns.name |
| 03:19.16 | drmessano | your pastebin is basically useless |
| 03:19.35 | jameswf-home | http://burntelectrons.org/media/lol/k%20rdy!.jpg |
| 03:19.36 | JerJer[mobile] | .com |
| 03:19.55 | korihor | coppice: is identical for 1.2 and 1.4 :( |
| 03:20.13 | JerJer[mobile] | and that dns name does resolve |
| 03:20.24 | drmessano | Well, I wouldnt know that |
| 03:20.31 | drmessano | Since you masked all the useful bits |
| 03:20.35 | coppice | korihor: well, I don't get MFAS with the TE410 card I have |
| 03:20.35 | korihor | coppice: i test 4 different cards :( on 1.2 and 1.4 zaptel |
| 03:20.52 | drmessano | "can you help me with this connection issue? I removed all the useful info" |
| 03:20.56 | *** part/#asterisk Ksilebo (n=haxardag@adium/Ksilebo) |
| 03:20.58 | drmessano | "Sure, let me waste a weekend" |
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| 03:21.04 | Ksilebo | Oops. |
| 03:21.05 | JerJer[mobile] | drmessano: its a wide open system, there is no way i'm gonna pastebin valid details |
| 03:21.20 | Ksilebo | Ok, having problems getting a Cisco 7940 registered onto asterisk |
| 03:21.21 | drmessano | Security through obscurity? |
| 03:21.29 | drmessano | Why not block anonymous connections? |
| 03:21.44 | JerJer[mobile] | because we want this to work first, then we can secure it |
| 03:21.56 | JerJer[mobile] | so there is no security - or firewall |
| 03:22.07 | JerJer[mobile] | i am doing this for interop |
| 03:22.09 | drmessano | That.. is scary |
| 03:22.12 | korihor | coppice: :( |
| 03:22.15 | jameswf-home | if your system is wide open we are the least of your worries.... secure it and come back when you can give data to debug |
| 03:22.30 | drmessano | jameswf-home: Well said |
| 03:22.35 | JerJer[mobile] | now i know why i don't stay in this channel |
| 03:22.48 | korihor | coppice: what you believe that it is? |
| 03:22.51 | jameswf-home | bows |
| 03:22.52 | drmessano | JerJer[mobile]: yeah, I hate common sense too.. |
| 03:23.07 | drmessano | JerJer[mobile]: Common sense gives me gas |
| 03:23.08 | jameswf-home | thinks dont let the door hit ya... |
| 03:23.14 | jameswf-home | ~freesupport |
| 03:23.15 | jbot | [freesupport] Remember people are in irc to help but their are limits to free support. you should try to google or call the manufacturers support for hardware issues. The fastest way to lose help here is to be impatient or combative. If you know so much more than us that you can say "no that's not it" maybe you shouldn't ask us questions |
| 03:23.45 | Ksilebo | ...anywho |
| 03:23.56 | Ksilebo | Anyone have experience with 7940's? |
| 03:24.17 | jameswf-home | ~ask |
| 03:24.18 | jbot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 03:24.55 | Ksilebo | In the console I'm getting "Recieved incoming SIP connection from unknown peer to 4444" |
| 03:24.59 | drmessano | Ksilebo: The gentleman that was going to help you earlier is quite skilled at setting up Skinny on * |
| 03:25.01 | Ksilebo | 4444 being a conference i made |
| 03:25.11 | drmessano | You should have stuck with him |
| 03:25.13 | Ksilebo | Its "working" on sip for now |
| 03:25.23 | JerJer[mobile] | jameswf-home: here ya go you whiny bitch.. http://www.pastebin.ca/998961 |
| 03:25.27 | drmessano | SIP is only going to "work" on Ciscos |
| 03:25.34 | drmessano | HA |
| 03:25.36 | JerJer[mobile] | its the same damn info |
| 03:26.00 | Ksilebo | My understanding was Skinny was going to be a large downgrade to all the functionality. |
| 03:26.31 | Ksilebo | Oh, wait, I totally misred that, wow. |
| 03:26.35 | coppice | korihor: I just looked at the line you refered to, but I don't understand the implications of what it says. The framer hardware should be inserting those bits, so its not clear to me that what the software inserts there really matters |
| 03:26.45 | Ksilebo | Skinny is already in Freepbx right? |
| 03:27.17 | Ksilebo | I finally figured out the flashing anyway. |
| 03:28.05 | mandd | i keed getting http://pastebin.com/m4ca5016e, when trying to install asterisk on freebsd 7 |
| 03:28.09 | mandd | tried everything, updating ports, different versions of openh323 |
| 03:28.11 | coppice | korihor: digium has a really bad attitude about errors on T1 and E1 cards. I made sure the tormenta 2 driver accumulates all the errors, and gives proper information about line performance. none of the newer drivers do that |
| 03:28.12 | mandd | still can't get it to work |
| 03:28.13 | mandd | any ideas? |
| 03:28.35 | korihor | coppice: look line 2439. i believe that set Y bit to 1 :( |
| 03:29.22 | korihor | coppice: or don't :( |
| 03:29.59 | korihor | coppice: really i don't know, is just to said sometime |
| 03:30.24 | coppice | korihor: for an E1 user this use of yellow, blue and red alarms sucks. they should have followed the ETSI alarm semantics. the US stuff is a subset of that, so it works OK for everyone |
| 03:30.56 | korihor | coppice: ok |
| 03:31.07 | coppice | korihor: well, you don't need to know much to look at an E1 analyser and see the wrong bit pattern :-) |
| 03:31.23 | Ksilebo | drmessano: I'll see if I can get SIP to function somewhat. |
| 03:31.45 | Ksilebo | I just want it to register at this point. |
| 03:32.03 | korihor | coppice: i test a sangoma and set X bit to 1 and Y bit to 0 :) when all is ok |
| 03:33.05 | Ksilebo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.18 | Ksilebo | Instead of SIP/1000 for the extension |
| 03:33.24 | coppice | korihor: historically digium have been so T1 oriented it has taken ages for E1 issues to be resolved. however, I have used a TE410 card in a development machine for years and never had the issue you are seeing |
| 03:34.11 | korihor | coppice: ok |
| 03:34.28 | korihor | coppice: but you believe me? :p |
| 03:34.35 | coppice | korihor: which models of card have you tried? |
| 03:36.18 | coppice | korihor: if you see things incorrect on a simple E1 analyser, and especially if you see them correct with a different make of card, I assume you are seeing a real problem. If you are using a different card, you might be seeing the effect of a different framer chip |
| 03:36.18 | korihor | coppice: 4 TE407P :( |
| 03:37.10 | coppice | just use sangoma |
| 03:37.27 | denon | hey, any of you guys have a multi-port pots surge supressor that you're fond of? |
| 03:37.40 | denon | preferrably not something with RJ11s, just bare terminals or punchdown or whatever |
| 03:37.51 | korihor | coppice: yes, :(, but that don't resolve the problem :p |
| 03:38.23 | coppice | korihor: the E1/T1 stuff on a TE407 should be the same as a TE410. |
| 03:39.43 | korihor | coppice: yes, i know |
| 03:40.10 | coppice | korihor: a chip revision issue, maybe? |
| 03:41.35 | korihor | coppice: maybe |
| 03:42.50 | korihor | coppice: in that case. i have sell my cards? :( |
| 03:43.47 | Qwell | korihor: if you suspect a hardware/driver issue, the best thing to do is contact support |
| 03:45.04 | korihor | Qwell: really i don't believe that. 2 cards are more old that other 2 |
| 03:45.39 | unpaidbill | anyone know why i hear a modem sound from my tdm2400s every now and then? |
| 03:45.47 | coppice | korihor: if you have problems with old cards, that makes a chip revision issue unlikely |
| 03:46.07 | korihor | coppice: ok |
| 03:47.09 | Qwell | unpaidbill: what is it connected to? |
| 03:47.21 | unpaidbill | a normal desk phone |
| 03:47.32 | unpaidbill | when i pick up the receiver |
| 03:47.32 | Qwell | and where are you hearing the sounds? |
| 03:47.39 | unpaidbill | somtimes i'll hear it.. instead of dialtone |
| 03:47.59 | Qwell | quick burst? |
| 03:48.01 | unpaidbill | it's an internal system not connected to anything |
| 03:48.28 | unpaidbill | not really quick.. no |
| 03:48.36 | Qwell | I'd almost say you're hearing FSK, but would have no idea why |
| 03:48.37 | unpaidbill | i have to hang up for a sec or two and pick back up for dt |
| 03:49.06 | unpaidbill | i have a few IRQ hits in my zap show status |
| 03:49.18 | korihor | coppice: identical problem with Wildcard TE205P (rev 02) :( |
| 03:49.35 | unpaidbill | nothing major though, dunno exactly what the irq colum means anyway heh |
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| 03:53.54 | korihor | coppice: the analyzer is Lite 3000 http://www.us.anritsu.com/products/ARO/North/Eng/showProd.aspx?ID=788 |
| 03:54.25 | coppice | korihor: have you complained to digium support? |
| 03:55.06 | korihor | coppice: no |
| 03:55.29 | coppice | it sounds like you should |
| 03:55.48 | korihor | coppice: ok, thanks for all :) |
| 03:56.34 | coppice | korihor: as I said earlier, digium's approach to alarms sucks. they hid most information, rather than revealing the maximum. this tends to let issues slip by for ages |
| 03:58.51 | korihor | coppice: tha pattern XYXX = 0000 work for telco CANTV in my country using ericcson equipament because they don't care about that |
| 03:59.18 | Ksilebo | Gaaaah why won't this register... |
| 03:59.29 | korihor | coppice: but telco DIGITEL don't like that :( and alarm :( |
| 03:59.49 | coppice | korihor: sure, lots of people have a lot of error reporting turned off, because there is so much equipment which gets it wrong |
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| 04:00.28 | coppice | korihor: but "we suck no worse than a lot of other people" is a poor recommendation :-) |
| 04:01.36 | korihor | coppice: :( i don't know the reason for that. they don't read the freaking recommendation :) http://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-G.732-198811-I/en |
| 04:03.15 | coppice | hey, who reads anything that's 20 years old :-) |
| 04:03.48 | korihor | coppice: jajajajajajaja |
| 04:04.02 | korihor | coppice: the old are wise :p |
| 04:04.16 | C4away | our tag line is "We suck less than most of our competition" which in my opinion is much better |
| 04:04.34 | C4away | it is straight and to the point, no double talk |
| 04:05.05 | coppice | it could also be a lie :-) |
| 04:05.45 | coppice | if you supply vacuum pumps its more likely to be honest |
| 04:05.58 | C4away | of course it is a lie, it's marketing |
| 04:06.03 | *** part/#asterisk ixx (i=foobar@cpe-70-112-149-89.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 04:06.25 | C4away | "we don't rip you off quite as bad as the competition" |
| 04:07.14 | C4away | "everyone get's screwed when it comes to telecom, come to ProTechCom where we promise to use Vaseline(TM)" |
| 04:08.53 | C4away | (* we reserve the right to use generic petrolium jelly) |
| 04:09.28 | coppice | people who truly love their customers don't charge them by the minute |
| 04:09.38 | C4away | hmm |
| 04:09.45 | C4away | that's not a half-bad tag line |
| 04:10.04 | C4away | "we charge by the hour" |
| 04:10.06 | C4away | haha |
| 04:10.28 | jameswf-home | is it time to bash the green guys? |
| 04:10.41 | C4away | only 1/2 cent per minute (billed in one-hour increments) |
| 04:10.49 | coppice | "if we charge more than $250 an hour, we guarantee you'l get screwed" |
| 04:10.54 | C4away | hahaha |
| 04:13.19 | C4away | hmm, I wonder if $1 per call flat-rate for calling card service would be a viable rate structure |
| 04:13.49 | C4away | for calls = 1 hr you would make 1.6c per minute |
| 04:14.23 | C4away | for the few calls that go over an hour you make less, but that should be offset by the many calls that are under an hour and you make more than 1.6c/min |
| 04:14.29 | jeev | sup C4away. |
| 04:14.36 | C4away | hello |
| 04:14.40 | C4away | you get that dialplan working? |
| 04:15.10 | jeev | i haven't tried it yet bro |
| 04:16.06 | jeev | hey guys |
| 04:16.08 | jeev | i got linksys to RMA the WIP330 |
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| 04:20.04 | Ksilebo | Ugh. Anyone know how to get a Cisco 7940 to get registered? |
| 04:20.22 | C4away | does it have the sip or sccp firmware? |
| 04:20.43 | C4away | that would be a place to start |
| 04:21.02 | C4away | I'm not a cisco guy so I have no idea, just know that there are different firmwares for sip or sccp |
| 04:21.12 | Ksilebo | SSIP |
| 04:21.13 | Ksilebo | Er |
| 04:21.24 | Ksilebo | SIP, and I've been googling like crazy |
| 04:21.29 | C4away | hmm |
| 04:21.39 | C4away | most of the people I know with cisco phones run chan_sccp |
| 04:21.47 | C4away | and rave about how well it works |
| 04:22.13 | Ksilebo | Wouldn't compile for me. |
| 04:22.18 | C4away | hmm |
| 04:23.14 | Ksilebo | I'd be happy using that if chan_sccp would compile, but blah. |
| 04:23.31 | C4away | yea |
| 04:23.44 | C4away | this is all I have about ciscos, for the 7970 but should be similar |
| 04:23.44 | C4away | http://www.voipcoop.org/viewtopic.php?t=30 |
| 04:23.53 | C4away | and it is for sccp |
| 04:23.57 | C4away | so, I'm not much help at all |
| 04:24.09 | C4away | lol |
| 04:24.16 | C4away | I should just go to bed like I planned to an hour ago |
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| 04:25.45 | C4away | hmm |
| 04:26.03 | C4away | Ksilebo: there are instructions for downloading and compiling and installing chan_sccp |
| 04:26.08 | C4away | on that page |
| 04:26.11 | C4away | worth a shot |
| 04:26.16 | C4away | anyway, gotta sleep, good luck |
| 04:27.15 | Ksilebo | Thanks, laters |
| 04:28.02 | Ksilebo | Aha! its not compatible with 1.4 |
| 04:28.39 | C4away | ack |
| 04:28.44 | C4away | well, there's your problem |
| 04:28.55 | C4away | and that sucks btw |
| 04:29.01 | C4away | anyway, yea, time for bed |
| 04:29.08 | Ksilebo | There's a patch but I have no idea how to apply it |
| 04:29.30 | C4away | nor would I ... I still haven't gotten a straight answer about applying .patch files |
| 04:33.46 | JayTee52 | Ksilebo, do you know what the original file is that it is supposed to patch? |
| 04:34.06 | jameswf-home | patch -p0 <superduper.patch |
| 04:34.27 | jameswf-home | sometimes p1 |
| 04:34.45 | JayTee52 | yeah, type man patch at the command line |
| 04:34.52 | JayTee52 | it'll tell you more |
| 04:35.28 | jameswf-home | is concerned there are people compiling asterisk who dont know linux basics |
| 04:35.32 | JayTee52 | or patch -p0 original_file patch_file |
| 04:36.52 | Ksilebo | Just patching, most stuff I;m ok with |
| 04:37.00 | Ksilebo | http://developer.berlios.de/patch/?group_id=4020 |
| 04:37.34 | JayTee52 | yeah, there seems to be alot of people that have embraced * with little knowledge of linux or even basic telephony |
| 04:38.22 | jameswf-home | As part of using asterisk you should be required to compile a kernel (without menuconfig) just to ensure you know your way around... you F up you lose your linux box and no one has to worry about you progressing |
| 04:38.32 | Ksilebo | lol |
| 04:39.03 | Ksilebo | I'm running mine on VMware Server, so I'd just take a snapshot first... |
| 04:39.04 | JayTee52 | wow! no menuconfig? that's a bit harsh, dont ya think? |
| 04:39.26 | JayTee52 | wtf? you're running * on VMWare server? |
| 04:39.38 | Ksilebo | Yes |
| 04:39.44 | JayTee52 | ok |
| 04:40.11 | JayTee52 | it's doable as long as you don't need hardware support for things like FXO or PRI |
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| 04:40.24 | Ksilebo | JayTee52: Exactly, which I don't. |
| 04:40.44 | JayTee52 | I run * native but I've got sipXecs running on a VM |
| 04:40.58 | Ksilebo | I just wanted some extensions at home going out to a SIP trunk |
| 04:41.22 | jameswf-home | I use vmware for development... nice to have 10 enviroments on box |
| 04:41.26 | JayTee52 | cool, at first I thought you were trying to patch a driver and not the skinny protocol. |
| 04:41.43 | JayTee52 | I love VMWare Server. |
| 04:42.01 | Ksilebo | I actually work for VMware though, so that side of it I have covered. |
| 04:42.03 | JayTee52 | Haven't messed with Xen or Virtualbox much |
| 04:42.06 | jameswf-home | I ususaly use it for betas too |
| 04:42.37 | jameswf-home | vmware told me to avoid KDE4 |
| 04:42.47 | Ksilebo | I just hate KDE anyway. |
| 04:42.48 | JayTee52 | Ksilebo, your company makes an excellent product. IMHO it's the best in virtualization |
| 04:43.21 | Ksilebo | JayTee52: Thanks. I know I just said I'm an employee, but IMO nothing even comes close to what we have. |
| 04:43.24 | gitguy | do you recommend asterisk on virtualized environments? |
| 04:43.34 | gitguy | for production |
| 04:44.00 | Ksilebo | I'd think it'd be ok so long as you are running it on ESX rather than VMware Server |
| 04:44.05 | JayTee52 | gitguy, it's great if you have fast hardware with lots of ram and don't need drivers for Digium cards |
| 04:44.20 | gitguy | ok |
| 04:44.26 | Ksilebo | ESX won't let you use any hardware beyond a NIC |
| 04:44.39 | Ksilebo | ANd you're retarded if you run anything production on Server. |
| 04:44.43 | gitguy | i don't need to use any hardware |
| 04:44.44 | JayTee52 | neither will standard Server |
| 04:45.20 | Ksilebo | MY EXCHANGE SERVER IS DOWN And you're running it on VMware Server? YES OMG GET IT BACK ONLINE |
| 04:45.31 | Ksilebo | Uh, no, buy ESX kthx |
| 04:45.39 | JayTee52 | Ksilebo, really? I think Server is robust enough given enough resources to run an Asterisk production of say 40 phones. |
| 04:45.58 | Ksilebo | Asterisk by itself yeah. |
| 04:45.59 | gitguy | what about vmware on xen? |
| 04:46.03 | gitguy | errrr |
| 04:46.05 | gitguy | asterisk on xen* |
| 04:46.23 | Ksilebo | is tempted to throw the damn 7940 out the window |
| 04:46.50 | JayTee52 | yeah, running Exchange in a VM I'd want the ESX but I'd still rather run that native anyway |
| 04:47.09 | JayTee52 | Ksilebo, nah just sell it on eBay |
| 04:47.22 | Ksilebo | Then I'd have to buy another phone... |
| 04:47.33 | Ksilebo | I'd rather get them working. |
| 04:49.09 | Ksilebo | Its gotta be something with the phone talking to the server. |
| 04:49.15 | Ksilebo | Rather, the lack thereof |
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| 04:58.51 | Ksilebo | Gah its so irritating. |
| 05:02.47 | jameswf-home | oh snap http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_mar2004/LabattTragedy.jpg |
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| 05:05.36 | JayTee52 | wow, sad! |
| 05:05.46 | JayTee52 | although I prefer Sam Adams myself |
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| 05:43.03 | vn | hah |
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| 06:01.50 | fakhir | night all |
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| 06:47.50 | riddlebox | ~thebook |
| 06:47.50 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
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| 07:30.58 | Marquel | morning all |
| 07:33.09 | Marquel | I'm back w/ my tiny little problem about zap/bri... asterisk always needs to dial a number prefixed with an area code, and i'm wondering why that is so. any ideas? |
| 07:44.51 | tzafrir | MaartenB, grep ^pridialplan /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 07:45.13 | tzafrir | For starters, try "pridialplan=unknown" . That usually helps |
| 07:46.11 | Marquel | tzafrir: unfortunately this is a bri card and *> reload chan_zap.so tells me pri*dialplan statements are ignored. anyway any setting doesn't make any difference. |
| 07:46.40 | tzafrir | Right. This requires a restart of Asterisk, I'm afraid |
| 07:48.24 | Marquel | hm. i'll retry w/ restart. |
| 07:54.51 | Marquel | okay. let me please bang my head on something hard and unyielding so it will pop and all that mousse of damaged brainsoup can flow freely in the fresh spring's air. |
| 08:00.44 | Marquel | tzafrir: thx, that helped. *arrrgh* |
| 08:01.48 | tzafrir | I hope you did not loose your head :-) |
| 08:02.08 | tzafrir | s/loose/lose/ |
| 08:03.01 | tzafrir | BTW: what version of Asterisk do you use? |
| 08:03.07 | Marquel | tzafrir: don't bother. i think i lost it some 10 to 15 years ago and so far it didn't bother coming back to me. i'm used to it. |
| 08:03.32 | Marquel | tzafrir: 1.2.27 (bristuffed) |
| 08:18.44 | Marquel | something wrong with that? |
| 08:26.59 | tzafrir | No |
| 08:27.06 | tzafrir | Just interested |
| 08:27.40 | Marquel | ah, okay. |
| 08:29.23 | riddlebox | hrmm getting to poke fun at some Nortel Engineers, they hired me to sit on one of their sites for 7 hours now while they have trouble with a "sip trunk" --their words, I told them I have never had any problems getting two asterisk systems to talk to each other |
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| 10:53.35 | puzzled | hi |
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| 11:42.11 | tzafrir | hi |
| 11:42.13 | tzafrir | ~ask |
| 11:42.14 | jbot | i heard ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
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| 12:12.51 | ik_5 | hello, anyone knows for an open source implementation of ivr using VoiceXML ? |
| 12:14.18 | mandh | .dict contrary |
| 12:14.25 | mandh | oh sorry |
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| 12:29.30 | tzafrir | anybody tried to write a dovecot authentication backend that uses asterisk voicemail users? (VMAuthenticate) |
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| 13:31.28 | Shotygun | Anyone here got an idea how can I make Asterisk's 1.2 Content-Type to deliver application/simple-message-summary instead of text/plain in order to make MWI to work with Snom? |
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| 13:38.54 | ManxPower | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:45.46 | ixx | a full opensource voicexml platform that does IVR/TTS/ASR etc is hard to find.. there have been some attempts and you can find various components though - jvoicexml (java based vxml interpreter), openvxi (vxml interpreter spec v2.0), publicvoicexml (project not active since 2004 but code available.. use openvxi), voiceglue (uses openvxi.. flite for tts, asterisk, etc), SpeakRight (java framework for generating VXML), Oktopous PIK (BSD |
| 13:46.44 | ik_5 | ixx, thanks, that what my googeling found |
| 13:47.14 | ManxPower | Do you really need VoiceXML, or do you just want it because it's "cool and new" |
| 13:47.59 | ik_5 | ManxPower, becaus i need to reacive information from 3rd party tool that i can not control that "knows" how to talk in VoiceXML |
| 13:48.14 | ManxPower | ik_5: *nod* That is a fairly good reason. |
| 13:48.32 | ixx | i6net has a product for asterisk but it is not open source. |
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| 13:49.30 | ixx | ik_5: you may need to use something like jvoicexml for interpretation then use asterisk or freeswitch, etc for the rest |
| 13:49.49 | ixx | do you need ASR/TTS etc? |
| 13:50.38 | ik_5 | ixx i don't know yet, i do not have all of the information yet tomarrow i'll know better |
| 13:51.08 | ManxPower | Chances are you'll need to write a translation layer between Asterisk (AMI, Exernal IVR, etc) and your 3rd party application |
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| 13:52.09 | ManxPower | I think I heard something about an XML<->AMI translation layer for Asterisk |
| 13:52.17 | ixx | if you can ignore that sort of thing... then you will have a much better chance of doing this using one of the toolkits/frameworks for interpretting the VXML.. then doing as maxpower says for the communication with asterisk or whatever |
| 13:55.35 | ik_5 | ixx i hope that voiceglue will work well for me, but i'll see better after i'll meet the tool that i require to communicate with (i dont know yet what it is exactly) |
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| 14:00.53 | ik_5 | thank you ManxPower and ixx for the help |
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| 14:01.24 | ixx | np |
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| 14:14.35 | ZaVoid | morning guys |
| 14:19.05 | ZaVoid | anyone ever use/try packetislands voipcare for asterisk? |
| 14:23.44 | ixx | ik_5: btw, if you want Perl you can look at VoiceXML::Client |
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| 14:30.25 | ik_5 | ixx, that's looks like a really great tool |
| 14:31.19 | ixx | wow.. they have reworked vocp - http://www.vocpsystem.com/ |
| 14:31.20 | ixx | looks much better now |
| 14:35.22 | lirakis | Ixx: what does a "voice modem" mean.... |
| 14:35.56 | lirakis | Not a standard modem used for inernet dialup? ... |
| 14:36.26 | lirakis | The vocp site mentions it... Just curious |
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| 14:40.41 | ManxPower | lirakis: there are modems out there that can be used to interface a line with the computer. Asterisk does not support voicemodems. Since they were used for IVR, voicemail, etc, most of these devices were never designed to be low latency |
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| 14:47.05 | ZaVoid | morning ManxPower |
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| 15:11.59 | ixx | lirakis: yes it could be used for dialup.... but most modems you see these days would have crappy support for the voice mode |
| 15:12.54 | ixx | IIRCYATE (pbx among other things) has support for voice modems |
| 15:13.04 | ixx | err that was IIRC YATE :) |
| 15:13.15 | ixx | anyhow you do not see it often |
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| 15:14.23 | coppice | the original voice modems had crappy voice. they used very low quality low bit rate versions of ADPCM |
| 15:15.20 | coppice | most were half-duplex too |
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| 15:17.31 | ixx | you mainly just see winmodems now though |
| 15:18.32 | coppice | it makes no difference. the voice support is the same |
| 15:20.38 | coppice | although anyone who takes the trouble can build a driver that makes a winmodem appear to be an FXO port, just like the x100p cards |
| 15:21.29 | drmessano | Thats exactly what I want |
| 15:21.38 | drmessano | "like an x100p" |
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| 15:22.43 | coppice | well, the winmodem packages for Linux usually have the DSP code supplied as a cmpiled library and the kernel driver supplied as source code. those source code drivers are mostly easy to adapt to be an FXO interface |
| 15:24.07 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano, thats synonymous with "aspiring to similar inferiority" |
| 15:24.21 | drmessano | lol |
| 15:24.22 | ManxPower | coppice: aren't most of those "voice modems" pretty high latency? |
| 15:24.38 | drmessano | What...... . what....... what |
| 15:24.46 | drmessano | Echo......... echo.............echo |
| 15:24.53 | drmessano | Oh sorry, using an X100P for IRC |
| 15:24.53 | coppice | probably, but I think being half duplex is a bigger issue |
| 15:25.12 | JayTee52 | "could you repeat that please? could you repeat that please?" |
| 15:25.28 | ManxPower | The problem with these "modems" is that anyone that wants to use one does not have the skills to write a driver for it, anyone with the skills to write a driver realize how silly it is, and use real hardware |
| 15:25.36 | drmessano | LOL |
| 15:25.40 | drmessano | Well effin said |
| 15:25.57 | drmessano | ~voicemodems |
| 15:26.14 | JayTee52 | I kinda miss using the old X100P cards because it was so much fun having to reboot the server every day or two at a minimum. |
| 15:26.23 | drmessano | ~voicemodems |
| 15:26.23 | jbot | The problem with these "modems" is that anyone that wants to use one does not have the skills to write a driver for it, anyone with the skills to write a driver realize how silly it is, and use real hardware. |
| 15:26.52 | coppice | there's nothing wrong with writing a driver for these cards, based on the supplied code. that code usually runs them at 9600 samples/second, but most show how to get them running at 8000 sample/second |
| 15:29.51 | drmessano | Oh classic |
| 15:29.56 | drmessano | ~newx100p |
| 15:29.57 | jbot | "Hey Hey I I just just got got a a new new x100p x100p. How How does does it it sound sound?" |
| 15:30.10 | drmessano | FTW |
| 15:30.19 | ManxPower | at least give me credit for the jbot factoid |
| 15:30.27 | drmessano | Hang on |
| 15:31.21 | drmessano | ~voicemodems |
| 15:31.22 | jbot | "The problem with these "modems" is that anyone that wants to use one does not have the skills to write a driver for it, anyone with the skills to write a driver realize how silly it is, and use real hardware." - ManxPower, FTW |
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| 15:32.14 | *** join/#asterisk CBU[^_^]M`` (n=Buotan_n@122.2.33.58) |
| 15:32.27 | drmessano | Someone write a driver so I can use my external Intel 2400 baud modem as an FXO |
| 15:32.29 | drmessano | quick! |
| 15:33.23 | drmessano | I put those in the same category as the Skype hacks |
| 15:34.41 | drmessano | Someone write an app or create a device that can interface SIP to Skype, with NO USB cable to a windows PC, no need to run a Linux Skype client.. No requirement for an actual Skype client whatsoever... otherwise, have another cup of STFU and sit down over there with your hack. |
| 15:35.17 | drmessano | Not that I am clamoring for one.. but the whole concept of the hacks is obsurd |
| 15:38.19 | JayTee52 | SIP -> Flash |
| 15:38.40 | JayTee52 | Flash -> Skype |
| 15:39.17 | drmessano | lol |
| 15:40.37 | JayTee52 | I've actually got a jpg of a guy in a WW2 army uniform saying "How about a nice cup of STFU?" |
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| 15:41.45 | drmessano | Yeah I love that one |
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| 15:46.22 | *** join/#asterisk tryin_hard (n=tryin_ha@126.54.101.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 15:47.11 | tryin_hard | who's got a working SLA implementation using all SIP? |
| 15:47.17 | tryin_hard | i know somebody has to |
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| 15:56.20 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, * doesn't support SLA. |
| 15:57.21 | ManxPower | Asterisk, however, CLAIMS to support SLA |
| 15:57.37 | ManxPower | in 1.4 or 1.6beta, I don't recall |
| 15:58.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, more like throwing it around in presumptive manner. |
| 15:58.54 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, that SLA in 1.4+ is a dirty hack pretending to be SLA which blends MeetMe & presence. This has no relation to true SIP-B. |
| 15:59.23 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: *nod* |
| 15:59.33 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 16:00.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, I seriously think a bunch of us should pitch in on a bounty to have it programmed by OEJ and force-fed into the * tree as mainstream. |
| 16:00.49 | CBU[^_^]M`` | hello |
| 16:00.54 | CBU[^_^]M`` | anyone here? |
| 16:01.18 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: My confidence in getting new stuff into Asterisk is close to zero. |
| 16:01.56 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, this looks like a different approach, and takes some backing and I know several of the Digium staff here would back the proposition. |
| 16:02.06 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, it is a point we should try on. |
| 16:02.28 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: there is not already a bounty listed on *gag* voip-info? |
| 16:02.35 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, we've already got 2-3 incomplete chan_sip replacements in the works, we jsut need to buckle down on one approach |
| 16:03.04 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, yes, but we have not discussed and solidified our desires and worked with Digium to make it happen. |
| 16:03.06 | ManxPower | Well, I have to leave for New Orleans. See everyone tonight. |
| 16:03.22 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, this is the potential weak point of OSS. |
| 16:03.23 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: keep me in the loop, I could add $50 to the bounty |
| 16:03.40 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower, I think I'll set something up for this. |
| 16:04.24 | tzafrir | CBU[^_^]M``, ManxPower and [TK]D-Fender appear to be there. Somewhere |
| 16:04.43 | coppice | I seldom recommend starting any software from scratch, but chan_sip is an excellent candidate for that :-) |
| 16:04.47 | *** part/#asterisk lirakis (n=user@cpe-68-175-38-65.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 16:05.41 | oej | ManxPower: Greetings from Alabama! |
| 16:07.25 | tryin_hard | i agree that asterisk SLA is a hack |
| 16:07.28 | oej | What's UP |
| 16:07.36 | oej | Yes, the SLA is a hack. |
| 16:07.40 | tryin_hard | but i still have to believe somebody has configured it and it's working |
| 16:07.49 | *** join/#asterisk Barbarossa (n=max@rfc2324.org) |
| 16:07.57 | Barbarossa | hi there |
| 16:08.14 | Barbarossa | Anybody have linux 2.6.25 + mISDN + hfcpci runnig without trouble? |
| 16:08.30 | tryin_hard | manx or fender, have you guys given it a try? |
| 16:08.34 | tryin_hard | or oej |
| 16:08.52 | oej | not me |
| 16:08.53 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, you mean the "SLA" we've got now? |
| 16:08.59 | tryin_hard | yah |
| 16:09.20 | tryin_hard | i don't care if it's a hack if i can get it to work |
| 16:09.44 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Nope. is dependant of phones with too many BLF's free. Also depends on MeetMe and use of a single "line" button. Its nearly worthless. |
| 16:09.46 | tryin_hard | the problem is the sla.pdf is full of ambiguitiy and only 1 extremely presumptuous example |
| 16:10.24 | tryin_hard | well thanks anyway, im trying to look at it as nearly useful. |
| 16:11.01 | tryin_hard | u guys get paging to work? |
| 16:11.12 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, "core show application page" |
| 16:11.24 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, sounds like your problem is MEETME <- |
| 16:11.35 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, thats the common thread. |
| 16:11.53 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, You ARE running zaptel and recompiled * afterwords, right? |
| 16:11.56 | tryin_hard | well i was just thinkin about trying paging |
| 16:12.00 | tryin_hard | oh yah |
| 16:12.03 | AmabassadortoPol | are there any big iax networks? |
| 16:12.06 | [TK]D-Fender | oej, what do you think it would take to implement proper SIP-B? |
| 16:12.20 | oej | Define "proper" SIP-B? |
| 16:12.21 | tryin_hard | does the page app natively make the phones autoanswer |
| 16:12.37 | tryin_hard | or do you have to set something special in the sip.conf |
| 16:12.39 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, No, it doesn't |
| 16:12.40 | oej | tryin_hard: You have to make sure they do yourself |
| 16:12.41 | tryin_hard | sip .cfg |
| 16:12.49 | oej | No, extensions.conf |
| 16:12.50 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, go look up "paging" on the WIKI for samples. |
| 16:12.56 | tryin_hard | i did |
| 16:13.03 | oej | Each manufacturer seems to have their own headers, so there's no generic way |
| 16:13.09 | tryin_hard | http://www.computechgroup.com/?p=385 |
| 16:13.13 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, then you'll see all sort of places where they set SIP headers in there. |
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| 16:13.15 | tryin_hard | im workin with that one |
| 16:13.45 | tryin_hard | seems redundant to add the sip header to autoanswer, and set the phones config to autoanswer |
| 16:14.00 | SteveTotaro | redundancy is good |
| 16:14.18 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, You miss the point |
| 16:14.39 | tryin_hard | obviously im missing something |
| 16:14.42 | tryin_hard | i dobut its the point |
| 16:14.45 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, You are PREPARING the phone to ACCEPT a heard to tell it to AA. And then you have to USE that trigger |
| 16:14.58 | [TK]D-Fender | s/heard/header/ |
| 16:15.07 | tryin_hard | oh i see |
| 16:15.11 | SteveTotaro | yes, the phone needs to be configured to accept the auto answer |
| 16:15.23 | tryin_hard | by default polycom ignores the autoanswer parameter int he sip header |
| 16:15.33 | SteveTotaro | mais oui |
| 16:16.09 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, more like it doesn't have a predefined state for this in the stock firmeware sip.cfg |
| 16:16.54 | SteveTotaro | and since it is not predefined, it is "ignored" |
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| 16:17.15 | tryin_hard | ok i see, and wow, ive got some ip 330's here, and it looks like they have the parameter already there |
| 16:17.30 | tryin_hard | the tutorial says to add this: |
| 16:17.31 | tryin_hard | <RING_ANSWER se.rt.4.name="Ring Answer" se.rt.4.type="ring-answer" se.rt.4.timeout="1000" se.rt.4.ringer="13" se.rt.4.callWait="6" se.rt.4.mod="1"/> |
| 16:17.35 | tryin_hard | my config has this |
| 16:17.43 | tryin_hard | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.19 | SteveTotaro | i feel GREAT after a solid month and a half of bad back and neck pain |
| 16:18.28 | SteveTotaro | woke up this morning and it is GONE |
| 16:18.30 | tryin_hard | what do these parameters do? se.rt.4.timeout="2000" se.rt.4.ringer="2" se.rt.4.callWait="6" |
| 16:18.46 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, You might want to read the admin guide... |
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| 16:20.28 | *** join/#asterisk SteveTotaro (n=Administ@pool-151-196-245-162.balt.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:20.34 | SteveTotaro | don't bother with the admin guide, just find a good howto |
| 16:21.12 | tryin_hard | well theres plenty |
| 16:21.54 | tryin_hard | i just always have better luck when an expert who's made all the time-wasting trial-and-error mistakes already to direct me in a "Do this, then do this, then do this" fashion |
| 16:22.30 | SteveTotaro | same here |
| 16:22.47 | SteveTotaro | manuals are time wasters imho |
| 16:22.48 | *** part/#asterisk Kinglouie (n=ramesh_1@122.166.11.252) |
| 16:22.58 | drmessano | or you can read the guides and maybe find out some of the experts are wrong |
| 16:23.22 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, how-to's won't explain all the vars he just asked about, just say "do it like this and uit will work" |
| 16:23.27 | SteveTotaro | hi Dr. Messano, how goes it? |
| 16:23.44 | drmessano | Its going |
| 16:23.49 | SteveTotaro | my mind works differently i guess |
| 16:24.22 | SteveTotaro | drmessano: well that is a good thing |
| 16:24.35 | SteveTotaro | certainly wouldn't want it to stop |
| 16:24.41 | tryin_hard | like here was a really good example for mass provisioning the polycoms |
| 16:24.52 | tryin_hard | do yum install vsftpd, useradd PlcmSpIp, passwd PlcmSpIp then do PlcmSpIp again, then make sure you have all the configs and sip.ld and bootrom.ld in /home/PlcmSpIp folder. then set the options on your dhcp server (in dnsmasq it is) dhcp-option=66,"ftp://ftpserverip" |
| 16:25.15 | [TK]D-Fender | \o/ my custom katana should arrive early this week :D - http://www.roninswords.com/custom_kiku_in_tea.htm |
| 16:25.47 | SteveTotaro | tryin_hard: usually the howtos include "tips and tricks" beyond just the basics such as auto answer |
| 16:25.52 | tryin_hard | in /home/PlcmSpIp you'll have a mac-address.cfg file for each phone which the phone looks for by default, that points to an extension.conf for that phone which tells it what extension to be. |
| 16:26.09 | SteveTotaro | see, you got the basics already |
| 16:26.11 | tryin_hard | i've ready several how to's |
| 16:26.17 | tryin_hard | many times many |
| 16:26.23 | [TK]D-Fender | "that points to an extension.conf for that phone" <--- WRONG. |
| 16:26.36 | tryin_hard | sip.cfg |
| 16:26.43 | tryin_hard | oops |
| 16:26.49 | tryin_hard | extension.cfg file |
| 16:26.54 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, there is a good provisioning hand-book on the WIKI |
| 16:27.02 | tryin_hard | i wrote the book on provisioning |
| 16:27.09 | tryin_hard | lol |
| 16:27.09 | SteveTotaro | lol |
| 16:27.17 | tryin_hard | thats easy stuff |
| 16:27.36 | SteveTotaro | but auto answer is part of provisioning |
| 16:27.40 | drmessano | Then...... whats the issue? |
| 16:27.44 | SteveTotaro | beat fender to it |
| 16:27.44 | drmessano | You wrote the book on it |
| 16:27.47 | tryin_hard | i guess it wasnt "easy" when i was trying to get it to work, but i could help someobdy get it working in like, 10 minutes now |
| 16:27.53 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, he clearly skipped that chapter in his "book" ;) |
| 16:28.22 | tryin_hard | lol, the provisioning tutorial i just threw out was an example of the kind of help i'm looking for for setting up autoanswer for paging and SLA |
| 16:28.23 | drmessano | I wrote a book on PHP.. It goes from page 1 to page 937.. I havent learned the middle stuff yet to write about it |
| 16:28.26 | drmessano | But, I wrote it |
| 16:28.30 | drmessano | Sounds like his book |
| 16:28.32 | SteveTotaro | learning curve is good, keeps the brain healthy |
| 16:28.44 | tryin_hard | <----despises learning curves |
| 16:28.51 | SteveTotaro | oh, i love it |
| 16:28.56 | drmessano | That's called "laziness" |
| 16:28.59 | tryin_hard | bah |
| 16:29.00 | SteveTotaro | like gnuradio |
| 16:29.17 | tryin_hard | possibly impatience, but i don't think i agree with laziness |
| 16:29.17 | SteveTotaro | i thought asterisk had bad docs five or six years ago... |
| 16:29.18 | JayTee52 | I just hate the "learning curves" that end up being a loop |
| 16:29.18 | drmessano | "I love to learn when someone had done the hard work and they spoon feed it to me" |
| 16:29.21 | drmessano | Thats laziness |
| 16:29.47 | SteveTotaro | i love the challenge |
| 16:29.53 | tryin_hard | well then possibly we should all go back and reinvent the wheel |
| 16:30.09 | tryin_hard | thats one of the cornerstones of an educated society |
| 16:30.14 | tryin_hard | standing on the shoulders of those who came before |
| 16:30.17 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: SSH into my asterisk box and set it up for me.. then I will learn how to make a call. KTHX |
| 16:30.19 | SteveTotaro | maybe, it is an outdated concept, too much friction |
| 16:30.20 | tryin_hard | so that we can build atop of it |
| 16:30.23 | tryin_hard | not rebuild the same things |
| 16:30.38 | drmessano | tryin_hard: Now you are justifying laziness.. that's classic |
| 16:30.48 | tryin_hard | no that's an age old proverb |
| 16:30.51 | SteveTotaro | but he is tryin_hard |
| 16:30.56 | drmessano | No |
| 16:30.59 | tryin_hard | ;) steve |
| 16:31.01 | drmessano | He's leechin_hard |
| 16:31.06 | SteveTotaro | age old proverbs are outdated by definition |
| 16:31.22 | drmessano | he's doitformeitstoo_hard |
| 16:31.23 | tryin_hard | aha, now there's ego and pride in knowledge speakin up drmessano |
| 16:31.29 | [TK]D-Fender | nostalgia isn't what it used to be you know.... |
| 16:31.38 | tryin_hard | you're proud of what you learned, so you don't want to share |
| 16:31.51 | tryin_hard | pretty common |
| 16:31.59 | SteveTotaro | i like to share but i prefer to give clues |
| 16:32.22 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Ok, so moving along what you showed us look more or less correct assuming you didn't mash your XML by making identical sections. |
| 16:32.35 | drmessano | tryin_hard: Now you're accusing someone of not sharing knowledge, but it's under the pretense of "I don't want to do the hard work, do it for me", which is pretty douche |
| 16:32.36 | SteveTotaro | and if i spent days or weeks on a problem, why he hell should i just give you the answer? |
| 16:32.44 | tryin_hard | im a higher level sys engineer, i have plenty of work to do that does not involve seeking through little xml files to fix one feeature, if i can find someone to spoonfeed it to me than i will |
| 16:33.07 | tryin_hard | D-fender |
| 16:33.09 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, how about you move on and show us what you've done in its entirety and show us that it fails |
| 16:33.11 | tryin_hard | that was not directed at you |
| 16:33.24 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, PASTEBIN is your friend. |
| 16:33.24 | tryin_hard | 10-4 |
| 16:33.25 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 16:33.25 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 16:33.28 | SteveTotaro | i hear ya tryin_hard but google won't waste other people's time like irc does |
| 16:33.29 | tryin_hard | oh yah, thank you |
| 16:34.20 | JayTee52 | I wish sometimes I had days or weeks to work on a problem. My biggest problem is my boss thinks every problem "isn't rocket science!" and should be fixable in 15 minutes or less. |
| 16:34.22 | tryin_hard | i do my share of free teaching for cisco routing and switching stuff. i don't resent those who ask me for help |
| 16:34.36 | tryin_hard | thats where i'm at Jay |
| 16:34.56 | tryin_hard | this stuff would be fun, if time deadlines weren't making us sweat |
| 16:34.58 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, .... ok, let go already or you'll end up in another endless philosophical debate and walk away hours later with nothing to show for it. |
| 16:35.07 | JayTee52 | does your boss think the world is 6000 years old and refer to the Civil War as "The War of Northern Aggression"? |
| 16:35.26 | SteveTotaro | well if the problem is purchasing a solution that costs a quarter million dollars or building it for my salary for a week or two, the boss goes for the week or two |
| 16:35.29 | tryin_hard | too true D-fender |
| 16:35.41 | tryin_hard | <---- is calmed by the wise words of an obvious IRC veteran calms |
| 16:35.54 | SteveTotaro | ~stevetotaro |
| 16:35.55 | jbot | you are probably an IRC nub |
| 16:35.57 | tryin_hard | Hahahah, northern agression |
| 16:36.03 | tryin_hard | probably |
| 16:36.19 | SteveTotaro | where are you from tryin? |
| 16:36.31 | tryin_hard | livin in florida at the moment |
| 16:36.32 | JayTee52 | SteveTotaro, exactly. I'd rather go with a commercial solution but my boss wants a feather in his cap by saving lots of money and won't spend the money necessary to "do it right" but expects the same level of reliability. |
| 16:36.48 | tryin_hard | Dfender, ill post something in pastebin shortly |
| 16:37.17 | SteveTotaro | JayTee52: but i deliver, it just takes time to work out the bugs |
| 16:37.23 | Marquel | excuse my ignorance, but what's 'faxdetect' in zapata.conf good for? |
| 16:37.34 | SteveTotaro | detecting faxes |
| 16:37.45 | tryin_hard | are you guys up to trying to help troubleshoot SLA, or should i just shoot for paging? |
| 16:37.58 | SteveTotaro | what is SLA? |
| 16:38.06 | SteveTotaro | service level agreement? |
| 16:38.09 | Marquel | SteveTotaro: very well. now what difference would it make to set it to a "wrong" value? |
| 16:38.33 | JayTee52 | I've managed to "integrate" * with a Nortel Meridian PBX and now I'm moving foward to put an * server in between my telco's PRI's and the Nortel and use * as a call router to either an * extension or a Nortel extension. |
| 16:38.38 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, No they are continuing your "debate" since you aren't keeping on track |
| 16:38.48 | SteveTotaro | Marquel: what are you referring to? |
| 16:39.01 | tryin_hard | yah, i douched that conversation and i apologize |
| 16:39.10 | tryin_hard | i havent been on IRC in years |
| 16:39.19 | SteveTotaro | JayTee52: I did the same with a Definity and a Partner |
| 16:39.20 | tryin_hard | started flaming... bah |
| 16:39.33 | Marquel | SteveTotaro: i'm referring to the _very_ low documentation of the parameter 'faxdetect' in zapata.conf. it doesn't help me if i don't know what it does. |
| 16:39.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, unless you set fax extensions in your dialplan, absolutely nothing. |
| 16:39.52 | SteveTotaro | oh, yeah, my smart ass answer |
| 16:40.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, it triggers the "fax" Asterisk Standard Extension. |
| 16:40.37 | SteveTotaro | yes, if you don't expect faxes or have a DID for faxes then you dont need faxdetect |
| 16:40.48 | Marquel | [TK]D-Fender: so if there's a fax coming in on a channel i can use the fax extension to directly forward it to an appropriate user without bothering the otherwise ringed human users? |
| 16:40.58 | *** join/#asterisk seanbright (n=sbright@c-69-251-175-43.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 16:41.04 | SteveTotaro | that is the idea |
| 16:41.11 | JayTee52 | I'm just concerned that using 2 TE212P cards and having calls route from one PRI channel to another PRI channel to Nortel will actually work. I've been told by a few people that it will but it hasn't been tested yet by me. |
| 16:41.24 | jeev | [TK]D-Fender, i got linksys to RMA the WIP330. |
| 16:41.32 | SteveTotaro | i have heard many complaints of faxdetect (on top of the usual fax problems) |
| 16:41.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, Pretty much. |
| 16:41.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, typically uses in 1st level IVR's |
| 16:42.31 | Marquel | then the question is: _when_ is it triggered? do i need to call Answer() prior to knowing that it's a fax or can i simply assume asterisk will figure that out for me prior to starting any other operations? |
| 16:42.32 | [TK]D-Fender | jeev, don't forget to sacrifice that goat... |
| 16:42.36 | SteveTotaro | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, Yes you have to answer. |
| 16:42.48 | jeev | :> |
| 16:42.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, otherwise * can't HEAR the fax tones, now can it? |
| 16:43.23 | SteveTotaro | i can hear on my PRIs without answering |
| 16:43.36 | SteveTotaro | the call just drops after thirty seconds or so |
| 16:43.39 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, that I'm not 100% sure on.... I think * will jump as soon as it hears it regardless. |
| 16:43.58 | SteveTotaro | i have never shared a DID for voice and fax |
| 16:44.08 | SteveTotaro | nice if it works though |
| 16:44.36 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, thats early audio, but IIRC thats where you can PLAY audio without being able to hear anything from the other side. So actually the reverse of what'd be called for. |
| 16:44.50 | SteveTotaro | yes, you are correct |
| 16:44.51 | Marquel | [TK]D-Fender: makes sense. now let's assume i _have_ two DIDs, one for human calls, one for faxes. in normal circumstances neither has to bother 'bout calls for the other but, as that thing deals with humans, there are occasions when faxes are coming in on the DID reserved for humans. will * jump to fax-extension or go on walking through the extension matching the called DID? |
| 16:45.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, if you have a dedicated port/did/etc for this then you don't need to care about faxdetect at all. Just answer the call as you wish and do what you will of it. |
| 16:45.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, this is more for people with situations like having a single analog line shared for voice/fax, etc... |
| 16:45.50 | SteveTotaro | you may have a false positive and send a caller to fax |
| 16:46.07 | SteveTotaro | fax tones are not as exact as dtmf |
| 16:46.09 | Marquel | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, most of the time that's what i do. but as i've said: sometimes there are faxes coming in on the wrong did. |
| 16:46.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, well You know your options, make of them what you will. |
| 16:46.31 | SteveTotaro | usually those faxes are junk in my experience |
| 16:46.57 | SteveTotaro | plus, why tie up the voice line? |
| 16:47.13 | SteveTotaro | if someone misdials and they send a 40 page fax.... |
| 16:48.06 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, his choice, I'm sure he knows the consequences. |
| 16:48.11 | Marquel | SteveTotaro: wouldn't matter, faxes and voice calls are sharing the same isdn-line anyway. so one incoming 400 page fax and a voice call will block the line anyway. |
| 16:48.33 | Marquel | whether the fax came in on the right did or not. |
| 16:48.44 | SteveTotaro | gotcha |
| 16:49.10 | SteveTotaro | i think you are trying to be too flexible but i guess it doesn't matter, this is a BRI? |
| 16:49.18 | Marquel | jep. |
| 16:49.50 | SteveTotaro | i suppose that could allow you to use the other DID for a different purpose |
| 16:50.42 | SteveTotaro | still i have not seen very good talk about faxdetect, but that might just be the loud minority |
| 16:52.53 | Marquel | let's say i'm trying to keep a bit more hassle from the workers. that's why i'm wondering how asterisk would react. does it automatically switch to fax-extension or go on walking through the current extension? |
| 16:53.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, it will get hijacked in your dialplan if detected while in a context with "fax" in it and not in a call. |
| 16:54.11 | tryin_hard | So, here's an overview with questions regarding paging: http://pastebin.com/d367b97a5 |
| 16:54.42 | Marquel | [TK]D-Fender: sorry, didn't understand that. |
| 16:55.06 | SteveTotaro | it will jump to the [fax] context |
| 16:55.22 | *** join/#asterisk atis_work (n=atis_wor@193.238.212.171) |
| 16:55.44 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, replace 18 with 14 |
| 16:56.03 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, and the other line is to add an auto-answer that doesn't "beep" in the your's will |
| 16:56.34 | Marquel | [TK]D-Fender, SteveTotaro: thx. |
| 16:56.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, you can detect if you aren't in a Dial and you have a "fax" exten in the current context being processed |
| 16:56.38 | tryin_hard | really, i thought thye could both exist in the same config |
| 16:56.48 | tryin_hard | one would handle nromal calls, the other would key off the Ring Answer |
| 16:56.58 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, No, you are clashing tags in XML. That is BAD |
| 16:57.26 | tryin_hard | did you notice one has alertInfo.1 and the other has lertInfo.2 |
| 16:57.59 | tryin_hard | if you're sure, i'll do it and not ask another question about it |
| 16:58.27 | tryin_hard | but it really looked like two different behaviours for two different sip headers |
| 16:58.29 | Marquel | [TK]D-Fender: so something like 'exten => <DID>,1,Answer()' would move on to 'exten => fax,1,Hangup()' in the same context, if there's a fax detected, but move on to 'exten => <DID>,2,Hangup()' if no fax detected? |
| 16:58.34 | *** join/#asterisk gbr_ (n=gbr@201-67-52-201.gnace703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 16:59.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, No. |
| 16:59.30 | tryin_hard | Dfender, i left them both in and it worked |
| 16:59.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Marquel, Actually... yes, depending how fast the fax is detected |
| 16:59.34 | tryin_hard | thank you so much |
| 16:59.39 | tryin_hard | paging works |
| 16:59.42 | tryin_hard | easy as pie |
| 16:59.48 | tryin_hard | D=fender strikes again |
| 16:59.50 | tryin_hard | where you work D? |
| 17:00.14 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Day job is unrelated, btu I'm an independent * consultant |
| 17:00.26 | tryin_hard | whats your day job? |
| 17:00.30 | tryin_hard | and where? |
| 17:00.45 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, IT for a plumbing distribution company |
| 17:01.04 | tryin_hard | in florida by chance>?? |
| 17:01.13 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, nope. |
| 17:01.45 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Montreal, QC |
| 17:02.41 | tryin_hard | cool. i'm gettin ready to work on a major network and VoIP rollout for gov't contract and asterisk will probably play a big part. I'm the cisco guy, but makin sure i'm capable to work on the asterisk stuff. gonna need someone with asterisk battlefield experience. oh well |
| 17:02.49 | Marquel | [TK]D-Fender: oh, okay, so success of that code is not deterministic... hm... |
| 17:03.04 | tryin_hard | which code |
| 17:03.05 | *** part/#asterisk ik_5 (n=ik@85.64.230.235.dynamic.barak-online.net) |
| 17:03.33 | vn | is there anything more debian-based to get a web interface to controle * than freepbx? |
| 17:04.41 | Marquel | tryin_hard: see my message at 58min,28sec last hour ;) |
| 17:04.42 | tryin_hard | So the alert info value seems to be arbitrary. The normal value in the sip header is "" if you don't add it in the dialan manually. If you add "Ring Answer", you then specify a behaviour with the other line i put in the pastebin |
| 17:04.50 | [TK]D-Fender | vn, FreePBX is a web interface, nothing distro specific. |
| 17:05.01 | [TK]D-Fender | vn, Which is all jsut about EVERYTHING interface out there is. |
| 17:05.07 | vn | yea but is there something I can get with apt-get? |
| 17:05.09 | vn | k |
| 17:05.21 | tryin_hard | my system clock is off |
| 17:05.28 | tryin_hard | i dont see a msg at that time |
| 17:05.31 | [TK]D-Fender | vn, This stuff doesn't belong in Debian to begin with. |
| 17:05.39 | *** join/#asterisk RoyK (n=roy@216-108-45.221110.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 17:05.40 | tryin_hard | keyword? |
| 17:05.58 | [TK]D-Fender | vn, next you'll expect them to create a repository of car parts to rice-up your Tercel. |
| 17:06.03 | tryin_hard | got it, marquel IM'd me |
| 17:07.26 | tryin_hard | marquel, based on that question , i believe the <DID>,1,Answer() is bypassed and the exten => fax,1,Hangup() is executed immediately |
| 17:07.28 | vn | ic :p |
| 17:07.38 | vn | I'll try *now then |
| 17:08.13 | *** join/#asterisk justdave (n=dave@unaffiliated/justdave) |
| 17:08.18 | SteveTotaro | rice is way too expensive now |
| 17:08.28 | SteveTotaro | maybe potato it up |
| 17:10.12 | Marquel | tryin_hard: hm, i can at least add some code to manage that case. if it works great. if not who cares... |
| 17:13.06 | *** join/#asterisk SteveTotaro (n=Administ@pool-151-196-245-162.balt.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:13.12 | SteveTotaro | Marquel: if you get false positives, you will care |
| 17:13.22 | SteveTotaro | or at least your customers will care |
| 17:14.27 | *** join/#asterisk SirThomas_Home (n=SirThoma@209.169.199.174) |
| 17:14.58 | Marquel | SteveTotaro: i give it at least a night of think ;) |
| 17:16.47 | *** join/#asterisk seanbright (n=sean@c-69-251-175-43.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:18.46 | tryin_hard | yeesh, i found a guy who says he setup SLA, but he's too busy to help |
| 17:19.22 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, You're working with IP 330's right? |
| 17:19.32 | tryin_hard | yepp |
| 17:19.45 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, That measn you can SLA *1* line. |
| 17:20.10 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Oh, and since the IP 3XX doesn't support indicated presence on your line-keys this is an absolute DEAD-END |
| 17:20.12 | tryin_hard | ok... |
| 17:20.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Because even though the phone has the button, it'll never be LIT |
| 17:20.31 | tryin_hard | oh hey |
| 17:20.47 | tryin_hard | i guess ur right |
| 17:20.55 | tryin_hard | wow |
| 17:20.57 | tryin_hard | WOW |
| 17:20.59 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Thats usually the way it is around here :) |
| 17:21.10 | tryin_hard | but what abuot the little phone icon nt he lcd |
| 17:21.20 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, same thing |
| 17:21.30 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, limitation of the 3XX series as a whole. |
| 17:21.38 | tryin_hard | well shux |
| 17:21.49 | tryin_hard | we've got some new 7961's im supposed to try as well |
| 17:21.50 | SteveTotaro | don't take TK's word as the gospel |
| 17:22.00 | SteveTotaro | he doesn't know everything as he claims |
| 17:22.01 | tryin_hard | i don't have them here tho |
| 17:22.28 | tryin_hard | i've seen him hear over a year ago and he was helpin noobs then. he knows plenty |
| 17:22.39 | tryin_hard | btw, ther's also a new failover parameter in these 330 configs that was not in the 301's that im curious about |
| 17:22.50 | SteveTotaro | he may know plenty but far from everything |
| 17:22.59 | SteveTotaro | the more i know, the more i know that i don't know |
| 17:23.01 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, avoid Cisco.... |
| 17:23.15 | SteveTotaro | snom with sidecar |
| 17:23.19 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, I said "usually", not "always". Sheesh |
| 17:23.47 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, Don't hear me talking about BRI, Realtime, etc do you? Thats because since I don't know those I don't speak up. |
| 17:24.15 | SteveTotaro | i was not taking a shot at you, just giving tryin a reality check |
| 17:24.19 | *** join/#asterisk solar_ant (n=John@122.164.234.13) |
| 17:24.29 | SteveTotaro | there may be some kind of hack that you are not aware of |
| 17:24.34 | SteveTotaro | sipsak or some such |
| 17:24.38 | *** part/#asterisk vn (n=nostalge@76-10-128-7.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 17:25.19 | tryin_hard | the point he's making is that the line keys onthe ip330 don't have lights to indicate state |
| 17:25.36 | tryin_hard | so the whole point of making a phone line light up when in use is moot |
| 17:26.12 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, The Polycom 3XX doesn't support BLF indication, so unless you have a complete replacement firmware somewhere this falls firmly in the realm of "not happening". |
| 17:26.31 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Glad to see you understand my point clearly... |
| 17:28.05 | SteveTotaro | use the microbrowser |
| 17:28.18 | tryin_hard | unfortunately did you read that somewhere fender |
| 17:28.42 | SteveTotaro | hearsay is not admissable in IRC #asterisk |
| 17:28.44 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, SLA isn't jsut the indication, you also need to hit the line-key used as a buddy to "grab" the line. |
| 17:29.04 | SteveTotaro | speed dial |
| 17:29.26 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, can you see the MB status (not live BTW), at the same time as being able to use the line key? |
| 17:29.40 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, yes, line-key dedicated as speed dial. |
| 17:29.59 | tryin_hard | um, i think steve is right |
| 17:30.06 | tryin_hard | i think it's possible |
| 17:30.16 | SteveTotaro | that is a better attitude |
| 17:30.38 | tryin_hard | all documentation points to SLA/BLA being a supported function |
| 17:31.00 | [TK]D-Fender | well the MB isn't "live", so you'll have to set a refresh rate, and then hit your server constantly at absolute best. |
| 17:31.03 | tryin_hard | working configuration examples still forthcoming, but it looks like theymade it possible |
| 17:31.19 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, You CAN see presence, just that its locked into the "buddies" screen. |
| 17:31.19 | SteveTotaro | i rest my case |
| 17:31.32 | tryin_hard | steve, your attitude is annoying at best |
| 17:31.44 | SteveTotaro | i think yours is worse |
| 17:31.45 | tryin_hard | Fender, i don't understand the way the biddies work |
| 17:31.58 | SteveTotaro | please give me all the answers because i don't want to work... |
| 17:32.02 | tryin_hard | well fair enough, right now im investigating |
| 17:32.06 | SteveTotaro | you make america great |
| 17:32.31 | tryin_hard | that was an old argument . move on when you have a chance |
| 17:32.41 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, Yes, and blind optimism often comes at the ned of a hot poker. |
| 17:32.47 | [TK]D-Fender | end* |
| 17:33.16 | SteveTotaro | optimism will add years to your life, how can you knock it |
| 17:33.22 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, this is as ugly a hack (worst in my better estimates) than SLA with * itself is as it is. |
| 17:33.25 | tryin_hard | i will pledge to return to help others with SLA if i get it working |
| 17:33.42 | *** join/#asterisk acxty (n=acxty@190.6.194.118) |
| 17:33.50 | tryin_hard | well fender, by that measure, Asterisk is one big hack |
| 17:33.52 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, Torture adds lots of pain to your life before it ends. Is it worth it?\ |
| 17:34.05 | tryin_hard | fender, rise above |
| 17:34.11 | tryin_hard | ignore |
| 17:34.11 | SteveTotaro | yes, the point of living is experience and emotion |
| 17:34.15 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, No.. its a collection of hacks, held together by duct tape & turd polish :) |
| 17:34.23 | tryin_hard | lol, yes thats it. |
| 17:34.30 | tryin_hard | do you have that picture somebody made |
| 17:34.37 | acxty | hi guys, I want to configure an telephone line usign asterisk. I got a proxy server, user and password, but I don't know where to start. may someone guide me with this |
| 17:34.40 | tryin_hard | of all the asterisk components thrown together |
| 17:34.42 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, I wsa looking for it... the site is down :) |
| 17:34.49 | drmessano | I'm sure that IOS is much less of a hack |
| 17:34.55 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, and I remember it well... |
| 17:34.58 | drmessano | Or, oh, Linux.. that's not an ugly hack |
| 17:34.59 | tryin_hard | a bit less, but not too much |
| 17:35.14 | drmessano | IOS is likely a massive hack |
| 17:35.17 | drmessano | Have you seen the source? |
| 17:35.22 | tryin_hard | thats heresay |
| 17:35.23 | tryin_hard | have you |
| 17:35.23 | SteveTotaro | IOS is lovely |
| 17:35.38 | tryin_hard | lets not get off track on a rant about hacks |
| 17:35.38 | drmessano | IOS isn't the most stable codebase ever |
| 17:35.49 | tryin_hard | why bring IOS into it |
| 17:36.07 | tryin_hard | poor acxty has a question |
| 17:36.16 | SteveTotaro | VxWorks |
| 17:36.16 | drmessano | Because the "OS of the Gods" is no less of a hack than anything else |
| 17:36.47 | tzafrir | Right. The company that develops VxWorks is now in the Linux business |
| 17:37.18 | SteveTotaro | gotta stay limber in the tech sector |
| 17:37.23 | SteveTotaro | look at sun |
| 17:37.24 | drmessano | If there was prefect code, there would be one beta, one RC, one release (with no changes), and never a need to update |
| 17:37.33 | tryin_hard | so the moral is, im still gonna try to get SLA to work |
| 17:37.57 | tzafrir | If there was a perfect code there was no need for a beta and an RC |
| 17:37.59 | SteveTotaro | call me annoying tryin_hard but i think i might have actually helped you |
| 17:38.02 | tzafrir | (is RC a gamma?) |
| 17:38.17 | drmessano | You need one beta to get it out there |
| 17:38.25 | drmessano | Then you make that beta into an RC with no changes |
| 17:38.34 | drmessano | Then you turn the RC into release with no changes |
| 17:38.38 | *** join/#asterisk _Raptor_ (i=raptorbl@andariel.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) |
| 17:38.49 | SteveTotaro | make them think you are going through a "normal" release cycle? |
| 17:38.55 | drmessano | You dont have to change one line to go from Beta to Release |
| 17:39.20 | SteveTotaro | like asterisk 1.4 & 1.6? |
| 17:39.21 | drmessano | Other than branding |
| 17:39.25 | drmessano | 10 PRINT "Poop! Beta 1" <--- |
| 17:39.30 | drmessano | 10 PRINT "Poop! RC 1" <--- |
| 17:39.37 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, Well with 3XX you can pray to get at most 1 line (stations not supported). Hope its worth it. |
| 17:39.38 | drmessano | 10 PRINT "Poop! 1.0" <--- |
| 17:39.47 | tryin_hard | Stevetotaro, i just said your attitude was sucking |
| 17:39.50 | drmessano | Now you have the source code for Poop!.. have fun with it |
| 17:39.55 | SteveTotaro | how so? |
| 17:40.06 | SteveTotaro | support your claim |
| 17:40.09 | drmessano | tryin_hard: and you are being insulting.. so whats the difference |
| 17:40.51 | acxty | I was looking at the sip.conf but I don't find information to set a proxy server. Am I looking on the wrong file? |
| 17:41.00 | tryin_hard | drmessano, i didnt see the insult i guess, and even if i did it's silly to care. |
| 17:41.25 | drmessano | tryin_hard: Of course it's silly to care about how you talk to other people, then whine about how they respond |
| 17:41.30 | SteveTotaro | i had a boss do a review of me and it was mostly negative, i just smiled the whole time, when asked to sign i refused until he could list at least two supporting incidents for each negative, he never got back to me... |
| 17:41.32 | tryin_hard | [TK]D-Fender; my goal is to have the first line function normal, and the second line be a bridged line |
| 17:41.38 | drmessano | tryin_hard: You hit the nail on the head |
| 17:42.09 | tryin_hard | drmessano , im not sure what you're saying |
| 17:42.13 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, can't do that, thats not how the SLA hack works. |
| 17:42.25 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, You need 1 BLF/key PER line. |
| 17:42.33 | SteveTotaro | create a new hack |
| 17:42.37 | C4away | SLA is fun |
| 17:42.41 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, and 1 actual "line key" to pass the call against |
| 17:43.20 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, at which point that'd require 3 -keys. That emasn IP 501+ |
| 17:43.24 | [TK]D-Fender | means* |
| 17:43.38 | SteveTotaro | that is what hacking (this type) if for, doing what someone says is impossible |
| 17:43.51 | tryin_hard | C4away, are you serious? |
| 17:44.06 | C4away | of course, I love exponentially expanding dialplans |
| 17:44.17 | SteveTotaro | i personally enjoy everything asterisk related, the more challenging the better |
| 17:44.35 | [TK]D-Fender | SteveTotaro, Remeber the Alamo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:44.42 | tryin_hard | C4away, thank you for clarifying with additional sarcasm |
| 17:44.50 | C4away | the kind you need a physicist as a consultant to debug |
| 17:44.52 | C4away | lol |
| 17:44.54 | *** join/#asterisk kic- (n=rfoote@adsl-074-229-035-019.sip.bct.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:45.25 | tryin_hard | D-Fender, call comes in and goes to line 1 (bridged line). receptionist places on hold. everyone's line 1 is "in use". Everyone's line 2 is available. press line 2, place outbound call. |
| 17:45.51 | SteveTotaro | just get a 3com |
| 17:46.00 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, thing is you can't have a line-2 |
| 17:46.02 | tryin_hard | perhaps a better method would be to teach people how to use parked calls |
| 17:46.06 | [TK]D-Fender | tryin_hard, 3 keys required <- |
| 17:46.09 | acxty | hey guys may someone point me to a basic configuration tutorial using a sip proxy server? |
| 17:46.12 | tryin_hard | yah |
| 17:46.14 | tryin_hard | parked calls |
| 17:46.17 | SteveTotaro | ~ser |
| 17:46.18 | jbot | hmm... ser is Sip Express Router - see http://www.iptel.org/ser/, or an old secret method of obtaining a havoc of NAT problems, or at #ser |
| 17:46.19 | tryin_hard | THATS IT |
| 17:46.42 | C4away | there is only one instance where I would suggest using SLA/BLA, that is a small shop with 4 or 5 phones (max) placed around the shop where nobody has an "extension" and all phones are functionally used the same way by anyone |
| 17:46.43 | tryin_hard | acxty, i have no experience using proxy. im sorry. |
| 17:47.03 | C4away | in that case I would suggest getting a cheap second-hand Merlin system and a few ATAs for the FXO ports on the merlin system |
| 17:47.07 | tryin_hard | C4away, that's 2 out of my 3 clients |
| 17:47.26 | tryin_hard | sip trunking still cheaper than pstn lines |
| 17:47.30 | SteveTotaro | for a small shop get a 3com v3000 |
| 17:47.53 | acxty | my isp gave me a proxy server, user and passwd, supposely there I would find my line, the problem is that I don't find any documentation of asterisk using a proxy server |
| 17:48.14 | drmessano | acxty: ISP or ITSP? |
| 17:48.24 | acxty | ISP |
| 17:48.32 | tryin_hard | your ISP sells voip? |
| 17:48.35 | acxty | yes |
| 17:48.39 | tryin_hard | whioch isp |
| 17:48.44 | drmessano | You dont need a proxy server |
| 17:48.45 | SteveTotaro | just set it up as a normal sip peer |
| 17:48.50 | drmessano | You need to set up a peer with that info |
| 17:49.00 | drmessano | That isnt a "proxy server" |
| 17:49.10 | acxty | so, it is a normal configuration |
| 17:49.13 | SteveTotaro | the isp may have a proxy |
| 17:49.14 | C4away | like I said, use ATAs for the analog lines coming out of the KSU |
| 17:49.24 | SteveTotaro | but you don't need to worry about that |
| 17:49.27 | C4away | there is a reason to use a PBX, and that is because it is NOT a KSU |
| 17:49.57 | C4away | and making a PBX act like a KSU is not only difficult, it is a complet waste of the PBX |
| 17:50.01 | acxty | thanks, will fine documentation about that. I need to configure that at the sip.conf file or am I wrong? |
| 17:50.02 | C4away | just buy a used KSU, merlins are cheap |
| 17:50.03 | drmessano | Damn straight |
| 17:50.07 | tryin_hard | acxty, yes normal config |
| 17:50.14 | tryin_hard | acxty, what is the ISP |
| 17:50.22 | acxty | globalnet |
| 17:50.29 | drmessano | It's probably his Cable or DSL provider |
| 17:50.33 | SteveTotaro | most business i deal with don't want a used system |
| 17:50.54 | C4away | then buy a grandstream IP-PBX |
| 17:50.54 | SteveTotaro | like the comcast triple play |
| 17:51.00 | C4away | it will use BLA out of the box |
| 17:51.09 | SteveTotaro | pbxnsip |
| 17:51.22 | drmessano | But Comcast isnt giving out info to customers |
| 17:51.43 | SteveTotaro | pingtel or whatever the pbx name is after they went opensource |
| 17:51.48 | drmessano | Grandstream has a PBX? |
| 17:51.53 | drmessano | Holy crap |
| 17:51.58 | drmessano | Screw Asterisk.. |
| 17:51.59 | C4away | yea a little appliance with basic functionality |
| 17:52.03 | C4away | hahaha |
| 17:52.20 | C4away | I'm detecting a bit of sarcasm drmessano |
| 17:52.28 | drmessano | 2 years wasted on Asterisk |
| 17:52.31 | C4away | haha |
| 17:52.40 | SteveTotaro | six here |
| 17:52.46 | drmessano | Had I know GS was coming out with a PBX.. I would have waited |
| 17:53.05 | drmessano | All this config file crap, NAT issues.. endless upgrades |
| 17:53.05 | SteveTotaro | they even thow in refurbed bt100s |
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| 17:53.14 | keith4_ | can I nest variables? |
| 17:53.14 | drmessano | I bet theres NO new firmware for the GS PBX |
| 17:53.19 | drmessano | I bet it "just works" |
| 17:53.24 | C4colo | oh yea |
| 17:53.35 | drmessano | gives the middle finger to the whole asterisk project |
| 17:53.40 | drmessano | See you losers on Skype |
| 17:53.42 | C4colo | it "just works" even better every few months |
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| 17:53.47 | SteveTotaro | vosky |
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| 17:53.58 | drmessano | Ok, no |
| 17:53.58 | C4colo | wb |
| 17:54.06 | keith4_ | like, "FOO=Zap/1" and then BAR=Zap/2&${BAR}" ? |
| 17:54.06 | SteveTotaro | http://www.vosky.com/ rulez |
| 17:54.08 | C4colo | didn't take you long to give up on the GS IP-PBX |
| 17:54.13 | keith4_ | er, crap |
| 17:54.16 | keith4_ | like, "FOO=Zap/1" and then BAR=Zap/2&${FOO}" ? |
| 17:54.27 | drmessano | C4colo: Googling it |
| 17:54.59 | drmessano | OMFG |
| 17:55.04 | [TK]D-Fender | keith4 : thats just setting a variable. |
| 17:55.10 | C4colo | it's only $900 |
| 17:55.11 | drmessano | It costs mroe than the LINKSYS el crapo PBX |
| 17:55.22 | SteveTotaro | linksys has a pbx? |
| 17:55.29 | SteveTotaro | what a mucked up market |
| 17:55.31 | drmessano | Its like a PBX-puck |
| 17:55.32 | [TK]D-Fender | keith4_, and of course you can use the contents of 1 var in setting another. |
| 17:55.40 | keith4_ | [TK]D-Fender, sweet. thanks |
| 17:55.41 | drmessano | SPA-9000 |
| 17:55.50 | keith4_ | [TK]D-Fender, means I F'd something else up, then |
| 17:56.43 | [TK]D-Fender | keith4_, and given how comprehensive you've been about your problem correcting it my be a long process... |
| 17:57.00 | keith4_ | grins |
| 17:57.04 | keith4_ | yep, I know |
| 17:57.33 | keith4_ | you don't need to draw questions out of me. I'll ask for help when I've run out of ideas ;-) |
| 17:58.20 | C4colo | wow, that's a first |
| 17:58.35 | C4colo | what the hell just happened? |
| 17:58.41 | C4colo | is it backwards day? |
| 17:58.42 | SteveTotaro | reason |
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| 17:58.52 | drmessano | keith4_ is making up for tryin_hard |
| 17:58.58 | C4colo | ah |
| 17:59.05 | SteveTotaro | lol |
| 17:59.06 | drmessano | keith4_ is working_hard, tryin_hard is beggin_hard |
| 17:59.07 | C4colo | the world's kharmic balance is restored |
| 17:59.10 | drmessano | Yes |
| 17:59.15 | C4colo | well, at least the channel's |
| 17:59.25 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo, My karma ran over your dogma. |
| 17:59.25 | drmessano | We've Yin'ed the Yang |
| 17:59.48 | drmessano | The troll has been bridged |
| 17:59.49 | C4colo | keep your yin away from my yang! |
| 18:00.09 | SteveTotaro | no, keep your yang away from my yang |
| 18:00.15 | C4colo | yea' that too |
| 18:00.22 | drmessano | Now that we got that out of the way.. Who is gonna help me with my Trixbox issue? |
| 18:00.24 | C4colo | er, that comma was a bit high |
| 18:00.30 | SteveTotaro | i will |
| 18:00.35 | SteveTotaro | ~trixbox |
| 18:00.36 | jbot | [~trixbox] trixbox is a full linux distro that includes FreePBX and other 3rd party add-ons. It is all this extra stuff which makes trixbox VERY difficult to support, and is not supported in #asterisk. Try asking in #trixbox or on their forums & wiki at http://www.trixbox.org |
| 18:00.36 | C4colo | Pick ME! |
| 18:00.54 | drmessano | Ok, I have this trixbox installed, ok |
| 18:00.56 | SteveTotaro | first one to answer gets a star |
| 18:00.59 | drmessano | Ran the ISO, installed it |
| 18:01.08 | drmessano | So... now what? |
| 18:01.10 | SteveTotaro | that's the hard part |
| 18:01.29 | C4colo | you install an OS and then download and install asterisk/zaptel/asterisk-addons, etc |
| 18:01.34 | drmessano | Where do I put my ear to listen, where do I talk into, and where do I dial.. on the CLI? |
| 18:01.53 | SteveTotaro | you plug a headset into your sound card |
| 18:02.04 | drmessano | takes notes |
| 18:02.18 | drmessano | What if I want to walk around? Can I put a battery on it? |
| 18:02.37 | SteveTotaro | you carry the server and a UPS |
| 18:02.46 | SteveTotaro | with WiFi |
| 18:02.51 | drmessano | I should admin now.. I started off with a big server box, so it's not really portable :) |
| 18:02.56 | drmessano | admit* |
| 18:03.05 | acxty | hey guys I query. I want to have a ivr, that call some python scripts and also redirect some calls to cell phones. Do I need special cards for that. I won't make any calls only receive and also won't have any phone to answer does call, the ivr will do all the job |
| 18:03.21 | SteveTotaro | my DL380 is very portable |
| 18:03.24 | drmessano | How do I transfer a call? Do I just unplug the box and take it down the hall? |
| 18:03.50 | SteveTotaro | acxty, yes |
| 18:04.07 | SteveTotaro | you better run down the hall |
| 18:04.24 | acxty | SteveTotaro, which special cards will I need? |
| 18:04.28 | SteveTotaro | a cart would be "best practice" to avoid jarring the hard drive |
| 18:04.31 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: do you use small boxes so they're easier to carry? |
| 18:04.32 | SteveTotaro | a NIC |
| 18:04.50 | SteveTotaro | i use the HP DL380 |
| 18:05.03 | SteveTotaro | it's good for a workout |
| 18:05.24 | drmessano | This Trixbox thing seems kinda dumb.. If I need to carry this box around to make calls, why dont i just use a skype thing? |
| 18:05.44 | acxty | SteveTotaro, yes beside the NIC. I mean a digium special one. Do the normal ethernet nic work? |
| 18:07.12 | SteveTotaro | you are doing all voip right? |
| 18:07.17 | SteveTotaro | through your ISP? |
| 18:07.39 | SteveTotaro | http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=COM10775 much lighter than the DL380 |
| 18:07.52 | SteveTotaro | a little bigger than the first version of cell phones |
| 18:08.01 | acxty | SteveTotaro, yes |
| 18:08.34 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, There is no such thing as a Digium NIC |
| 18:08.43 | SteveTotaro | if you are doing all voip then you just need a nic |
| 18:09.03 | SteveTotaro | openvox or ebay would be good to buy a cheapo card so you can have real hardware timing |
| 18:09.14 | SteveTotaro | rather than ztdummy |
| 18:09.15 | acxty | [TK]D-Fender, I was saying a digium card ;) |
| 18:09.40 | drmessano | NXTVox would be a better cheap card, IMO |
| 18:09.51 | SteveTotaro | is it decent? |
| 18:09.59 | drmessano | Ive heard good things about it |
| 18:10.11 | SteveTotaro | the guy that runs openvox was mark spencer's right hand man way back in the day |
| 18:10.12 | drmessano | Supposed to use the Tigerjet chipset, but be an improvment |
| 18:10.19 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, You'll need a special card if you want to plug some kind or real telephony line into your system (analog lines, BRI, PRI, CAS, etc) |
| 18:10.29 | SteveTotaro | and he designed the Tormenta III card for govarion |
| 18:10.56 | acxty | [TK]D-Fender, thanks I won't use any real telephony line |
| 18:11.10 | SteveTotaro | you still might want a card for real timing |
| 18:11.27 | SteveTotaro | it is a small investment and could avoid audio issues |
| 18:11.32 | acxty | I was asking this, because every documentation I read recomend differents cards |
| 18:11.40 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, then you don't need any special cards |
| 18:11.53 | SteveTotaro | cards are for connecting to the PSTN in some way |
| 18:12.02 | acxty | SteveTotaro, I will have that in mine, I am still in testing, I am completely newbie in asterisk |
| 18:12.04 | SteveTotaro | your ISP is providing that so all you need is a nic |
| 18:12.17 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, you need a card if you're dealing with real lines. VoIP = IP = any network interface |
| 18:12.28 | drmessano | SteveTotaro: Nothing really impresses me anymore.. Being a "someone" is as useless to me as being a no-name.. |
| 18:13.07 | SteveTotaro | God wants you to be a "Someone" |
| 18:13.17 | SteveTotaro | :) |
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| 18:14.16 | drmessano | heh |
| 18:14.26 | SteveTotaro | man, time flies faster and faster |
| 18:14.34 | keith4_ | okay, I've reached a new problem that I have ideas for. When I dial an extension that is supposed to dump me to VoiceMailMain(), asterisk crashes and dies |
| 18:14.43 | keith4_ | er, have *no* ideas for |
| 18:14.55 | SteveTotaro | safe_asterisk |
| 18:15.05 | SteveTotaro | if asterisk crashes you are SOL |
| 18:15.08 | acxty | [TK]D-Fender, SteveTotaro, I have been searching for a documentation that only explain how to configure the voip line with asterisk. The problem is that everyone that I find it talks about cards and phones and all that stop (real telephone lines), do you know of a good documentation that only explain that kind of stuff. Other thing after I make the correct configuration and make a call to the cellphone what Is supposely I should listen, a normal ring ring |
| 18:15.10 | drmessano | If you told me one of the original exchange designers wrote a new mail app that used undocumented API's I would ask why the hell I would use ANY app designed by someone who wrote the POS that was early versions of Exchange |
| 18:15.14 | seanbright | keith4_: what version of asterisk are you running? |
| 18:15.25 | keith4_ | 1.4.17 |
| 18:15.30 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, here |
| 18:15.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ~jerjerguide |
| 18:15.35 | jbot | [~jerjerguide ] Jeremy McNamara's quick sample guide to setting up * : http://www.jeremy-mcnamara.com/2007/02/26/how-to-configure-asterisk-your-first-installation/ |
| 18:15.42 | seanbright | keith4_: could you pastebin that part of your dialplan/ |
| 18:15.43 | acxty | thanks |
| 18:15.45 | seanbright | ~pb |
| 18:15.46 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 18:15.50 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, go look at any sample "how to setup * with ITSP X" |
| 18:16.02 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, and ask your provider if they have a setup sample. |
| 18:16.12 | SteveTotaro | just ignore the cards for now and look at sip setup |
| 18:16.23 | acxty | thanks, will read that right that. Will have that in mine |
| 18:16.24 | [TK]D-Fender | acxty, SIP is SIP. Its not much different that setting up a phone |
| 18:16.30 | acxty | *mind |
| 18:16.55 | keith4_ | seanbright, sure.. hold on |
| 18:16.55 | seanbright | keith4_: might have to do with this --> http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=11760 |
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| 18:17.05 | acxty | about making the call, will I listen like a normal phone after the configuration is done |
| 18:17.09 | drmessano | Ewww |
| 18:17.14 | drmessano | 1.4.17 has known issues |
| 18:17.30 | seanbright | keith4_: might be best to upgrade to 1.4.19.1 |
| 18:17.36 | drmessano | With 1.4, you should always be running latest |
| 18:17.41 | SteveTotaro | best to stick with 1.2 |
| 18:17.43 | drmessano | Since it's been such a moving target |
| 18:17.48 | keith4_ | shrugs |
| 18:17.50 | keith4_ | i can upgrade |
| 18:17.58 | seanbright | keith4_: that should fix you up |
| 18:18.00 | SteveTotaro | upgrade to 1.2.x |
| 18:18.02 | seanbright | keith4_: if not, let me know. |
| 18:18.04 | drmessano | 1.4 has calmed down a bit.. Issues are really being addressed and fixed |
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| 18:18.16 | drmessano | I wouldn |
| 18:18.21 | drmessano | I wouldn't be using 1.2 |
| 18:18.42 | SteveTotaro | well, i will let the guinea pigs get it worked out by downtime, crashes, lost business |
| 18:18.47 | SteveTotaro | then convert |
| 18:19.15 | SteveTotaro | does ABE use 1.4 yet? |
| 18:19.29 | drmessano | Since 1.4 and 1.6 are closer cousins than 1.4 and 1.2, you're gonna see a lot of code and apps that will start working great on 1.4/1.6 and not so much 1.2 here soon |
| 18:19.30 | SteveTotaro | does switchvox? (I know the answer to this one) |
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| 18:19.57 | drmessano | Windows 2000 works great too.. but life goes on |
| 18:20.18 | SteveTotaro | matt florell is doing a great job of backporting apps to 1.2 |
| 18:20.55 | keith4_ | eh, looks like I can go to 1.4.18 for now |
| 18:21.00 | SteveTotaro | he is another person dealing with large call centers |
| 18:21.03 | seanbright | keith4_: ? |
| 18:21.11 | drmessano | keith4_: use 1.4.19 |
| 18:21.18 | keith4_ | debian lenny |
| 18:21.42 | seanbright | keith4_: you don't compile from source? |
| 18:22.19 | SteveTotaro | apt-get |
| 18:22.19 | keith4_ | hell n |
| 18:22.22 | keith4_ | o |
| 18:22.54 | seanbright | keith4_: ah. ok. well if i recall there might be problems with 1.4.18 with chanspy, but i'm not 100%. |
| 18:23.05 | keith4_ | i can live without chanspy, if voicemail works ;-) |
| 18:23.16 | SteveTotaro | yes there were many problems with chanspy |
| 18:23.22 | SteveTotaro | you should know sean |
| 18:23.24 | seanbright | keith4_: well voicemail works with 1.4.17, you just need to make sure res_adsi.so gets loaded |
| 18:23.41 | seanbright | SteveTotaro: sorry? |
| 18:23.56 | SteveTotaro | i saw your name on the commits |
| 18:24.04 | SteveTotaro | unless this is a different seanbright |
| 18:24.20 | seanbright | SteveTotaro: nothing in relation to crash bugs |
| 18:24.38 | SteveTotaro | but you were directly involved with the code |
| 18:25.00 | SteveTotaro | find it hard to believe you would not be "sure" |
| 18:25.09 | keith4_ | .... res_adsi.so wasn't loaded. odd |
| 18:25.24 | acxty | [TK]D-Fender, thanks that documentation was really usefull, I understand many things now |
| 18:26.07 | seanbright | SteveTotaro: ah, ok. |
| 18:26.47 | SteveTotaro | as brilliant and observant a coder as yourself |
| 18:27.26 | SteveTotaro | nice to see your name all over lately |
| 18:27.58 | seanbright | keith4_: did loading res_adsi stop the crashing? |
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| 18:28.50 | keith4_ | not sure.. the 1.4.18 upgrade is still going |
| 18:28.54 | keith4_ | damn slow CF |
| 18:29.03 | SteveTotaro | compact flash? |
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| 18:29.17 | keith4_ | yah |
| 18:29.18 | drmessano | Compaq Festiva |
| 18:29.31 | keith4_ | cold fusion |
| 18:29.33 | SteveTotaro | that must be slow as heck |
| 18:29.33 | acxty | see you later |
| 18:29.38 | keith4_ | it's pretty slow |
| 18:29.53 | keith4_ | but it has enough RAM to cache most I/O, so it's fine until you do something like this |
| 18:30.00 | seanbright | keith4_: do you use iax? |
| 18:30.07 | SteveTotaro | how large a CF are you using? |
| 18:30.11 | keith4_ | 1 gig |
| 18:30.18 | SteveTotaro | voicemail on there too? |
| 18:30.23 | keith4_ | nah |
| 18:30.34 | keith4_ | could be, though |
| 18:30.49 | keith4_ | only about 500M used |
| 18:31.27 | keith4_ | hearts debian |
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| 19:00.27 | outtolunc | .. |
| 19:00.37 | SteveTotaro | Life is hard. After all, it kills you. |
| 19:00.59 | outtolunc | good day to you also <G> |
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| 19:54.38 | hunmonk | is it possible to use channel variables with the #include directive? ie, '#include ${FOO}.conf' ? |
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| 20:01.45 | ixx | hunmonk: i don't think so |
| 20:02.01 | hunmonk | ixx: that's a real bummer :( |
| 20:02.14 | C4colo | anyone know why the g(n) option for the Voicemail() application is still included even thoughh it does nothing? |
| 20:02.50 | C4colo | Voicemail(123@context|sbg(5)) |
| 20:03.05 | C4colo | it shows on the CLI as accepting the flag |
| 20:03.14 | C4colo | but the volume of the voicemail file is not changed at all |
| 20:04.03 | outtolunc | probably because whatever you use for playback does have/understand what it is using (just a guess, i do not use voicemail) |
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| 20:04.31 | C4colo | does have/understand what it is using? |
| 20:04.37 | C4colo | 0.o |
| 20:04.49 | C4colo | I was with you up to that point |
| 20:05.03 | outtolunc | voicemail g option has to do something |
| 20:05.07 | C4colo | gain |
| 20:05.11 | ixx | hunmonk: you can add extensions on the fly though |
| 20:05.23 | outtolunc | that something for audio playback is usually funneled to the player |
| 20:05.32 | C4colo | the player is asterisk |
| 20:05.33 | outtolunc | if not, then forget i mentioned it |
| 20:05.36 | ixx | what are you trying to do? |
| 20:05.44 | C4colo | voicemail files are too quiet |
| 20:05.57 | C4colo | so I want to boost the recording gain by a few Db |
| 20:06.15 | C4colo | which according to the documentation is the g(n) option |
| 20:06.23 | C4colo | add n dbs of volume to recorded file |
| 20:06.42 | C4colo | g(1.5) or g(10) |
| 20:06.53 | C4colo | the actual file is recorded by asterisk with that much gain |
| 20:07.31 | C4colo | I call the voicemail system, record three files, each time increasing the g() by 3 db, and reloading then calling again .. etc |
| 20:07.43 | C4colo | when I call the voicemail system to listen, no change in volume is perceptible |
| 20:08.02 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo, did you restart * or reload the module? |
| 20:08.07 | C4colo | reload |
| 20:08.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo, not good enough |
| 20:08.20 | C4colo | ... |
| 20:08.29 | C4colo | you know this? |
| 20:08.31 | C4colo | or guessing? |
| 20:08.43 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo, reload app_voicemail.so |
| 20:08.45 | hunmonk | ixx: what i want to do is load some channel vars based on an extension that's dialed. i'd prefer not to pull them from astdb, but instead from a flat file, so i was hoping to figure out a way to do that via #include |
| 20:09.01 | C4colo | it is not a setting in voicemail.conf, it is a dialplan application argument |
| 20:09.12 | C4colo | I will try |
| 20:09.14 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo, Oops. |
| 20:09.47 | [TK]D-Fender | hunmonk, No, you can't do dynamic includes like that. |
| 20:09.51 | outtolunc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.55 | outtolunc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.52 | ixx | includes are all happening at load/reload of the extensions conf... (or whatever the main conf that has an include) |
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| 20:11.20 | C4colo | outtolunc: where did you find that info? |
| 20:11.22 | ixx | i assume you would set a variable multiple times in a context? or try to set with SetVar etc during call? |
| 20:11.28 | outtolunc | app_voicemail.c |
| 20:11.31 | outtolunc | 1.4.19 |
| 20:12.08 | outtolunc | it only hits that section if args.argc == 2 tho |
| 20:12.15 | C4colo | yes |
| 20:12.29 | C4colo | 123@context|g(1) |
| 20:12.36 | C4colo | not sb123@context |
| 20:12.58 | C4colo | I am putting the args at the end |
| 20:13.09 | C4colo | it makes no difference in the record gain though |
| 20:13.48 | outtolunc | output just before the res= what leave_options.record_gain is actually set too |
| 20:14.51 | C4colo | is there a simple way to do that? |
| 20:14.58 | C4colo | like echo ? |
| 20:15.01 | outtolunc | just a sec |
| 20:15.15 | C4colo | I don't know how the modules interact with the CLI |
| 20:15.41 | C4colo | I can hack the hell out of an AGI script, but c is not my language |
| 20:15.42 | ixx | the only ways i can think to do it would involve ugly hacks tied to updating the conf from a database such as mysql... or some other worse hackery updating flat files.. all requiring reload calls for updating the extensions... overall a bad idea. |
| 20:16.07 | C4colo | ixx: have you looked at dynamic / realtime dialplan? |
| 20:16.15 | C4colo | not an ugly hack, it is built into asterisk |
| 20:16.19 | ixx | much easier to set vars and get them. |
| 20:16.35 | ixx | C4colo: extension removal and adding is fine |
| 20:16.39 | C4colo | put parts of your dialplan into the database and each time that portion of the dialplan is referenced it looks to the database for the current values |
| 20:17.00 | ixx | but trying to set variables from some external file that you #include .. that is going to require a strange hack |
| 20:17.01 | C4colo | in the realtime dialplan put a bunch of "Set(blah=blah)" lines |
| 20:17.21 | C4colo | then if you want to update those values just update them in mysql |
| 20:17.25 | ixx | C4colo: yes... set/get is fine. he said he wanted to avoid that |
| 20:17.49 | ixx | i agree that is the best solution. then you can update from wherever and pull them during the call |
| 20:18.45 | C4colo | yea, still not exactly sure what he is trying to da |
| 20:18.46 | C4colo | to |
| 20:18.48 | C4colo | do |
| 20:18.49 | C4colo | ack |
| 20:18.52 | C4colo | I can't type |
| 20:18.58 | ixx | to do da da da do :) |
| 20:19.03 | C4colo | haha |
| 20:20.22 | C4colo | anyhow, seems many people are having a problem with the g() option not working for voicemail |
| 20:20.37 | C4colo | here is a fun solution: |
| 20:20.38 | C4colo | http://www.asteriskguru.com/archives/image-vp313177.html |
| 20:21.14 | C4colo | overload the sox application using a script and a dummy bin directory |
| 20:22.06 | C4colo | if the first parameter is "-v" use your custom settings, if it is not pass the request off to the real sox application |
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| 20:23.02 | C4colo | not often you see entire applications overloaded, usually just methods within an application |
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| 20:23.35 | outtolunc | http://dynx.net/ASTERISK/diff-patches/app_voicemail_gain.diff.txt |
| 20:23.56 | C4colo | hmm |
| 20:24.35 | outtolunc | actually |
| 20:24.43 | outtolunc | give me a sec |
| 20:25.00 | C4colo | ok |
| 20:25.22 | C4colo | is there a simple way of applying patches? I've never had anyone give me a straight answer and google has not been much help |
| 20:26.02 | russellb | patch -p0 < patch |
| 20:26.06 | C4colo | hah |
| 20:26.20 | outtolunc | backup the original first <G> |
| 20:26.20 | C4colo | I was just going to ask if the command would be "patch" or something absolutly obvious |
| 20:26.33 | phalcos | I sincerly apologize for disturbing your conversation, but I just want to express my gratitude. Asterisk is so cool. Just got mine working just the way I want it. :) |
| 20:26.45 | russellb | phalcos: thanks!! |
| 20:27.02 | phalcos | -_- |
| 20:27.14 | C4colo | phalcos: you'd be disturbing our conversation if you said "my trixbox is broken", praise is always accepted |
| 20:27.23 | mvanbaak | hey russellb |
| 20:27.30 | russellb | mvanbaak: greetings |
| 20:27.40 | phalcos | C4colo :) |
| 20:27.54 | russellb | disappears again |
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| 20:38.20 | tryin_hard | i did modprobe ztdummy and now zaptel won't start |
| 20:38.21 | tryin_hard | wtf |
| 20:41.23 | drmessano | keep_tryin |
| 20:41.38 | tryin_hard | hehehahahah |
| 20:41.42 | tryin_hard | now that was funny |
| 20:42.11 | ixx | if machine is not locked then go check logs. |
| 20:42.11 | drmessano | You may have a problem with mod_gfy.. check your debug |
| 20:42.11 | tryin_hard | i am NOT recompiling anything |
| 20:42.22 | outtolunc | multiprobe ztdummy <G> |
| 20:42.53 | C4colo | outtolunc: should I apply that patch or were you changing it? |
| 20:43.56 | tryin_hard | the whole reason i did that was because i had this: |
| 20:43.56 | tryin_hard | [Apr 27 16:32:30] WARNING[4520] app_meetme.c: Unable to open pseudo device |
| 20:44.18 | tryin_hard | i figured that was telling me ztdummy wasnt loaded |
| 20:45.56 | ixx | do you need app_meetme? if not just set it to not load in the conf |
| 20:48.38 | tryin_hard | yah im doing paging |
| 20:49.08 | tryin_hard | i need it |
| 20:49.32 | ixx | if you did not build zaptel before asterisk you may have to recompile. not sure how you did the install |
| 20:49.41 | keith4_ | odd. I ugraded zaptel, and ztcfg gives me "Unable to register tone zone 'us'" |
| 20:49.49 | ixx | did you get any error from the ztdummy modprobe? |
| 20:50.02 | tryin_hard | no |
| 20:50.40 | tryin_hard | well, that would be in the system log, not in asterisk message i guess ... right? |
| 20:50.40 | ixx | what does lsmod show for ztdummy? is it in use? |
| 20:50.44 | ixx | yes system log |
| 20:52.17 | tryin_hard | heres the script i used to install |
| 20:52.18 | tryin_hard | http://pastebin.com/d1cd345a8 |
| 20:53.04 | keith4_ | hmm. removed and added kernel modules, seems fixed |
| 20:53.19 | tryin_hard | how do i check system log |
| 20:55.01 | tryin_hard | [root@USFLMM01 ~]# lsmod |
| 20:55.01 | tryin_hard | Module Size Used by |
| 20:55.01 | tryin_hard | ztdummy 4180 0 |
| 20:55.01 | tryin_hard | zaptel 202372 1 ztdummy |
| 20:55.01 | tryin_hard | md5 4161 1 |
| 20:55.32 | ixx | ok.. ztdummy is not in use right now |
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| 20:55.48 | tryin_hard | well, im surprised zaptel is even showing there |
| 20:55.59 | ixx | logs are in /var/log .. for modprobe you can check kern.log |
| 20:56.07 | tryin_hard | cuz i stopped it, then loaded ztdummy, then tried to start it and it gave the error |
| 20:56.25 | tryin_hard | i just restarted |
| 20:56.50 | tryin_hard | ztdummy should autoload now right |
| 20:57.18 | ixx | not unless you add it to /etc/modules or wherever you load modules on startup |
| 20:57.33 | ixx | rc.local with a call to modprobe ztdummy works also |
| 20:57.41 | tryin_hard | my buddy lied then |
| 20:58.28 | ixx | maybe the make for the zaptel added some entries for /etc/modules.d/alias or whatever.. not sure |
| 20:58.38 | seanbright | tryin_hard: what distro? |
| 20:58.49 | tryin_hard | centos 45 |
| 20:59.21 | ixx | yeh. that service zaptel start at the end indicates centos/redhat type system... |
| 20:59.22 | tryin_hard | well, can you confirm that the error i got when trying to use the page functino was because ztdummy was not running? |
| 20:59.41 | tryin_hard | ok, box is back |
| 20:59.47 | seanbright | tryin_hard: chkconfig zaptel on |
| 20:59.50 | ixx | that is a common reason seen for that error |
| 20:59.59 | tryin_hard | sean, thats done |
| 21:00.07 | seanbright | ok, so its loading on startup |
| 21:00.37 | tryin_hard | yes |
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| 21:00.53 | tryin_hard | first, how to enable ztdummy on boot |
| 21:01.26 | tryin_hard | all i have in /etc is modprobe.conf' |
| 21:01.30 | tryin_hard | doesnt seem to reference modules |
| 21:01.52 | seanbright | cat /etc/udev/rules.d/zaptel.rules |
| 21:02.12 | tryin_hard | no such files |
| 21:02.20 | seanbright | ok, so you don't have udev installed |
| 21:02.21 | seanbright | thats ok |
| 21:02.57 | tryin_hard | zaptel loaded, ztdummy didnt |
| 21:03.21 | seanbright | tryin_hard: how about /etc/sysconfig/zaptel |
| 21:03.25 | seanbright | tryin_hard: does that exist |
| 21:03.26 | seanbright | ? |
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| 21:04.51 | tryin_hard | yah thats it |
| 21:04.53 | tryin_hard | it's commented out |
| 21:04.59 | tryin_hard | #MODULES="$MODULES ztdummy" # Zaptel Timing Only Interface |
| 21:05.01 | seanbright | right |
| 21:05.02 | tryin_hard | i've uncommented it |
| 21:05.10 | tryin_hard | now, should i modprobe it, then start zaptel |
| 21:05.14 | tryin_hard | or just restart zaptel |
| 21:05.18 | seanbright | you can just restart zaptel |
| 21:05.39 | tryin_hard | nope |
| 21:05.42 | tryin_hard | fawkin error |
| 21:05.51 | seanbright | what error? |
| 21:05.58 | tryin_hard | Waiting for zap to come online...Error: missing /dev/zap! |
| 21:06.07 | tryin_hard | my buddy's tellin me to recompile an older version of zaptel |
| 21:06.12 | seanbright | no no |
| 21:06.49 | tryin_hard | so it will start on boot, but it won't start when i do a service zaptel restart |
| 21:06.49 | seanbright | hold on |
| 21:07.02 | seanbright | well it might not start on boot at this point |
| 21:07.10 | tryin_hard | now that i took that out? |
| 21:07.14 | tryin_hard | well, i just init 6'd |
| 21:07.20 | tryin_hard | lets see hwat happens |
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| 21:07.32 | seanbright | no, there should be no difference between boot and 'service zaptel start' |
| 21:07.55 | mvanbaak | I'm off to bed |
| 21:07.58 | mvanbaak | latero all |
| 21:08.00 | seanbright | night |
| 21:08.35 | seanbright | tryin_hard: the various devices (/dev/zap, etc) get created on 'make install' of zaptel, unless you are running udev |
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| 21:10.38 | tryin_hard | what log can i check to see where it logs successfully on boot, and then where it fails on restart |
| 21:10.44 | seanbright | tryin_hard: why are you installing an old version of zaptel anyway? |
| 21:11.32 | tryin_hard | im not |
| 21:11.38 | tryin_hard | wheres the log |
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| 21:11.51 | tryin_hard | im sorry |
| 21:11.54 | tryin_hard | thats not the script i used |
| 21:12.00 | seanbright | oh |
| 21:12.03 | seanbright | dmesg | grep -A10 -i zap |
| 21:12.35 | seanbright | tryin_hard: you should see something like 'ztdummy: RTC rate is FOO' |
| 21:13.30 | tryin_hard | seanbright: well, 1, the script i used was the latest versions, so sorry for the misinformation |
| 21:13.40 | seanbright | tryin_hard: no problem |
| 21:13.46 | seanbright | tryin_hard: i forgive you |
| 21:13.48 | tryin_hard | seanbright: i see some zaptel output from the dmesg log, but nothing interesting |
| 21:14.02 | seanbright | tryin_hard: do you see 'ztdummy: RTC rate is 1024'? |
| 21:14.02 | tryin_hard | seanbright: i don't see the messages you were talking about |
| 21:14.08 | seanbright | hmmm |
| 21:14.14 | seanbright | dmesg | grep -i dummy |
| 21:14.40 | keith4_ | where does asterisk stick voicemail files, by default? |
| 21:14.46 | tryin_hard | nothing |
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| 21:14.51 | seanbright | keith4_: /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail |
| 21:14.55 | keith4_ | thanks |
| 21:14.57 | tryin_hard | /var/spool/asterisk/ |
| 21:14.59 | tryin_hard | wow, ur fast |
| 21:15.10 | seanbright | tryin_hard: nothing? wtf? |
| 21:15.14 | seanbright | tryin_hard: lsmod |
| 21:15.20 | tryin_hard | ztdummy is there under lsmod |
| 21:15.28 | seanbright | um... ok |
| 21:15.31 | seanbright | ls -al /dev/zap |
| 21:15.31 | tryin_hard | so it looks like it throws the error but still loads |
| 21:15.45 | seanbright | what error are you talking about? |
| 21:15.53 | seanbright | are you seeing an error on boot? |
| 21:15.55 | seanbright | if so, what is it? |
| 21:15.57 | tryin_hard | [root@USFLMM01 log]# ls -al /dev/zap |
| 21:15.57 | tryin_hard | ls: /dev/zap: No such file or directory |
| 21:16.03 | seanbright | ok, so run make install in zaptel again |
| 21:16.04 | tryin_hard | im remote, i don't see bootup |
| 21:16.14 | tryin_hard | should i do make clean? |
| 21:16.18 | seanbright | no |
| 21:16.20 | tzafrir_home | grep zap /etc/udev/rules.d/* |
| 21:16.20 | tryin_hard | ok |
| 21:16.40 | seanbright | tryin_hard: do what tzafrir_home just suggested |
| 21:16.48 | tryin_hard | /etc/udev/rules.d/xpp.rules: RUN+="/usr/share/zaptel/xpp_fxloader udev $sysfs{idVendor}/$sysfs{idProduct}/$sysfs{bcdDevice}" |
| 21:16.48 | tryin_hard | /etc/udev/rules.d/xpp.rules:# By default XPP_INIT_DIR="/usr/share/zaptel" |
| 21:16.51 | seanbright | ahhh |
| 21:16.56 | seanbright | ok, so you _are_ running udev |
| 21:17.35 | tryin_hard | looks that way |
| 21:17.36 | tzafrir_home | tryin_hard, what distribution is that? |
| 21:17.41 | tryin_hard | centos 45 |
| 21:17.42 | seanbright | centos 4.5 |
| 21:18.10 | seanbright | 'make install' should install the zaptel rules |
| 21:18.16 | seanbright | don't know why it hasn't |
| 21:18.47 | tryin_hard | well, i don't think im going to redo the install unless i can find a good reason that it failed so im kinda stuck |
| 21:19.11 | seanbright | you mean you aren't willing to run 'make install' again? |
| 21:19.16 | seanbright | interesting. |
| 21:20.19 | tryin_hard | running now |
| 21:20.30 | tryin_hard | done |
| 21:20.34 | seanbright | grep zap /etc/udev/rules.d/* |
| 21:21.11 | tryin_hard | [root@USFLMM01 zaptel-1.4.10]# grep zap /etc/udev/rules.d/* |
| 21:21.11 | tryin_hard | /etc/udev/rules.d/xpp.rules: RUN+="/usr/share/zaptel/xpp_fxloader udev $sysfs{idVendor}/$sysfs{idProduct}/$sysfs{bcdDevice}" |
| 21:21.11 | tryin_hard | /etc/udev/rules.d/xpp.rules:# By default XPP_INIT_DIR="/usr/share/zaptel" |
| 21:21.11 | tryin_hard | [root@USFLMM01 zaptel-1.4.10]# |
| 21:21.17 | tzafrir_home | Right. There has indeed been a bug of 'make isntall' in 1.4.10 |
| 21:21.31 | seanbright | oh |
| 21:21.32 | seanbright | heh |
| 21:21.37 | seanbright | well that would explain it. |
| 21:21.38 | tryin_hard | right |
| 21:21.43 | seanbright | what is the solution? |
| 21:21.59 | seanbright | would running 'make devices' explicitly fix it? |
| 21:22.34 | tryin_hard | that explains why my buddy just recompiled an old version and it worked |
| 21:22.39 | tryin_hard | i don't wanna do that |
| 21:22.46 | tzafrir_home | http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel?view=rev&revision=4167 |
| 21:23.44 | seanbright | tryin_hard: do this |
| 21:23.46 | tzafrir_home | basically replace that ifneq with ifeq and you're done |
| 21:23.52 | seanbright | tryin_hard: cd to your zaptel directory |
| 21:24.04 | tryin_hard | fixing file now |
| 21:24.07 | seanbright | tryin_hard: then do 'curl "http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/branches/1.4/Makefile?view=patch&r1=4167&r2=4166&pathrev=4167" | patch -p0' |
| 21:24.17 | seanbright | then re-run make install |
| 21:24.18 | tryin_hard | orly |
| 21:24.21 | tryin_hard | that fixes it? |
| 21:24.27 | seanbright | assuming you have curl installed, yes. |
| 21:24.34 | seanbright | if you don't, do this: |
| 21:24.54 | seanbright | 'wget -O - "http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/branches/1.4/Makefile?view=patch&r1=4167&r2=4166&pathrev=4167" | patch -p0' |
| 21:25.26 | seanbright | tzafrir_home: should probably have a maintenance release of 1.4.10, no? |
| 21:25.52 | tzafrir_home | I'm all for it |
| 21:25.57 | tryin_hard | i just manually did it |
| 21:26.07 | seanbright | tryin_hard: yeah, why do it the easy way... |
| 21:26.16 | seanbright | tryin_hard: ok, 'make install' and you're done |
| 21:26.38 | tryin_hard | yah, well, stupid me |
| 21:26.46 | tryin_hard | i missed syntax somewhere |
| 21:26.49 | tryin_hard | lets try this wget |
| 21:26.53 | tryin_hard | whats the -O- |
| 21:26.55 | seanbright | too late for that |
| 21:27.00 | seanbright | since you already modified the Makefile |
| 21:27.14 | seanbright | and its '-O -' |
| 21:27.28 | seanbright | means to output to the specified file and - means standard out |
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| 21:29.18 | seanbright | tryin_hard: this is the Makefile you want to use -> http://svn.digium.com/view/zaptel/branches/1.4/Makefile?revision=4167&pathrev=4167 |
| 21:29.24 | seanbright | that is the corrected one for 1.4 |
| 21:32.26 | seanbright | tryin_hard: any luck? |
| 21:32.28 | tryin_hard | WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 21:32.32 | tryin_hard | AHAHAHHHAHAHAA |
| 21:32.33 | tryin_hard | awesome |
| 21:32.36 | seanbright | guess so |
| 21:32.37 | tryin_hard | thank you sean |
| 21:32.43 | tryin_hard | and thank you tzafrir |
| 21:32.47 | seanbright | tryin_hard: don't thank me, thank Trapa |
| 21:32.47 | tryin_hard | pays to check the svn huh |
| 21:32.48 | seanbright | err |
| 21:32.49 | seanbright | tzafrir_home: |
| 21:32.52 | seanbright | that guy. |
| 21:32.59 | tryin_hard | yah man, h'es helped me in the past |
| 21:33.02 | tryin_hard | wow |
| 21:33.06 | tryin_hard | who'd a thunk |
| 21:34.26 | tryin_hard | oh, now i wanna make sure ztdummy loads by default |
| 21:34.44 | seanbright | shutdown -r now |
| 21:34.47 | seanbright | heh |
| 21:34.59 | tryin_hard | lol |
| 21:35.00 | tryin_hard | hahaaa |
| 21:37.23 | tryin_hard | Page(Technology/Resource&Technology2/Resource2[|options]) |
| 21:37.39 | tryin_hard | should the options be comma separated from the resources |
| 21:37.43 | tryin_hard | or | separated |
| 21:37.54 | seanbright | either should work |
| 21:38.07 | seanbright | comma will make it forward compatible with 1.6 |
| 21:39.26 | tzafrir_home | well, it was a change by me that broke it in the first place :-( |
| 21:40.10 | seanbright | tzafrir_home: you're fired ;) |
| 21:40.45 | tryin_hard | yah, paging works |
| 21:41.01 | tryin_hard | oh....tsafrir is a zaptel developer |
| 21:41.05 | tryin_hard | interesting |
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| 21:51.01 | wonderworld | i am trying to script a little "answering machine" with asterisk. It recors sound fine, but i need to to save the recording, even if the person that leaves a messages hangs up instead of pressing the key to finish the recording. is there a way to do that? tnx |
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| 22:08.42 | [TK]D-Fender | wonderworld, * already records until hangup OR "#" |
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| 22:16.18 | wonderworld | [TK]D-Fender: yes true, but my agi-script is terminated at the moment the caller hangs up. i need to write a line into a database after that (made it we-based). I should have asked if it is possible to keep an agi-script running even after the cahnnel is dead... |
| 22:17.05 | wonderworld | but i already read it up, couldn't find it before. DeadAGI seems to do what i want. thanks anyway |
| 22:19.22 | tzafrir_home | wonderworld, BTW: why do you use an AGI for that? |
| 22:19.32 | tzafrir_home | what's wrong with a simple Record? |
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| 23:25.36 | keith4_ | how do I control what uid/gid voicemails get created as? |
| 23:25.49 | keith4_ | I had to change asterisk's gid due to an NFS gid problem |
| 23:25.57 | keith4_ | but it still creates voicemail as the old gid |
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| 23:43.53 | tryin_hard | anyone know a goodp lace to get cisco 7961 config templates |
| 23:44.39 | Qapf | stab yourself in the head, its faster |
| 23:44.47 | Qapf | 7961's wont transverse nat correctly |
| 23:45.37 | Qapf | voip-info wiki has some templates, but seriously, just buy some tin cans and string, you will have a better time |
| 23:47.12 | tryin_hard | <---searching ebay for tin cans |
| 23:47.28 | tryin_hard | i don't want to traverse nat with it |
| 23:47.43 | keith4_ | i love when people answer questions that you never asked |
| 23:49.32 | tryin_hard | yep |
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