| 00:00.01 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: You have flown deep into "Tangent-Land". |
| 00:00.10 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: You are not dealing with "analog". |
| 00:00.33 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: * dials COMPLETE numbers to your PRI, your telco dials complete #'s (your DIDs) in to you. |
| 00:01.03 | Strom_C | florz: what country are you in? |
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| 00:01.17 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: not even the former, necessarily - but the latter is impossible for overlap-dialed variable-length numbers |
| 00:01.27 | florz | Strom_C: .de |
| 00:01.31 | [TK]D-Fender | .... |
| 00:01.54 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: But as you really don't seem to believe - give me a second to create a dump ... |
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| 00:02.34 | edibrac | i'm so glad our PRI went down late in the day on friday ..and not other days |
| 00:02.48 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: if its sending digits I thinik "immediate=yes" is the problem. Which you would eb the cause of |
| 00:02.58 | riddlebox | edibrac, I guess it was the providers fault? |
| 00:03.35 | edibrac | riddlebox :yeah they (XO) says there having an outage affecting the SF Bay Area ..though the rep I talked said it was stemming from their Fremont facility |
| 00:04.01 | Adamb0122 | Anyone have any ideas? I've replaced the ends on the cable from the PRI card to the Router, router still thinks there is a problem (there is a yellow alarm on the WIC), but on the Asterisk box it thinks everything is okay, (Alarm OK in Asterisk & green light in back) |
| 00:04.13 | riddlebox | hrmm we have customers here in st louis that use xo and they never have good things to say about them |
| 00:04.53 | riddlebox | Adamb0122, can you loopback the cable to the smart jack? |
| 00:04.56 | edibrac | riddlebox: that is something I'm wondering about.. the reputation oF XO -- but i guess it's like wondering about the reputation of a wireless carrier or hard drive maker |
| 00:04.56 | Strom_C | Adamb0122: sounds like you made an ethernet crossover cable |
| 00:05.12 | ManxPower | Adamb0122: the yellow light COULD be indicating the port on the router shutdown. |
| 00:05.17 | riddlebox | edibrac, true |
| 00:06.19 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: http://rain.dyn.florz.de/pri-overlap-inbound.txt |
| 00:06.46 | edibrac | i guess, i can't fully appreciate asterisk since I haven't worked too much a real pbx ..but I'm guessing i can appreciate being about to see the Red Alarm remotely with ztttest, instead of walking over to the server room |
| 00:07.05 | edibrac | or, when they call me to tell me all is good, I could ssh from home instead of drive into work on the weekend |
| 00:07.33 | ManxPower | ~polycom-config |
| 00:07.34 | jbot | i guess polycom-config is http://www.fnords.org/~eric/polycom-config-examples |
| 00:07.39 | ManxPower | A new jbot factoid |
| 00:08.16 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: and I tried all possible combinations of immediate and overlap - none did what I wanted |
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| 00:08.58 | ManxPower | I once had an issue where the PRI D-Channel would not come up. Telco said nothing was wrong. So I unplugged the line and asked them to test again. The saw nothing wrong and no alarm. |
| 00:09.11 | ManxPower | The idiot was troubleshooting someone else's T-1/PRI |
| 00:09.37 | riddlebox | lol |
| 00:09.54 | Adamb0122 | Strom_C > i made this http://help.fonality.com/index.php/T1_crossover_HOWTO |
| 00:10.16 | riddlebox | crossover |
| 00:10.22 | Adamb0122 | ManxPower > yea... damn XO Comm doesn't let me have access to the router, does me no good. |
| 00:10.50 | riddlebox | I have heard IT guys complain about that for along time |
| 00:11.32 | riddlebox | do you need a crossover cable for a T1 to a digium card? |
| 00:12.41 | ManxPower | riddlebox: telco<->asterisk, no crossover Asterisk<->PBX or channel bank, need a T-1 crossover (not ethernet crossover) |
| 00:13.01 | riddlebox | ahh yeah that figures |
| 00:13.47 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Your telco is pretty whacked... |
| 00:14.07 | riddlebox | well considering T1 pairs are 12,45 that makes sense |
| 00:14.25 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: erm, why that?! |
| 00:14.44 | s0ck | seen a few customers now with nortel bcms |
| 00:14.55 | s0ck | any idea how they compare to *? |
| 00:14.56 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: What is the length rang of their input? |
| 00:15.07 | riddlebox | s0ck, you buy a lot of licenses for BCM |
| 00:15.07 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Nothing on this side of the ocean works that way. |
| 00:15.43 | s0ck | riddlebox: presumably it works well then |
| 00:15.45 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: 0 to ... well, dunno, what the upper limit is, actually, but it's at least 5 |
| 00:15.48 | s0ck | sla\blf et al |
| 00:16.12 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: BCM = crap. UNISTIM = dead-end, and was a pathetic attempt to make ICS a hybrid IP/TDM platform using the same BS core processing. |
| 00:16.14 | riddlebox | s0ck, I would take asterisk over a nortel product |
| 00:16.27 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: well, in .eu you probably won't get anything else in many (most?) countries |
| 00:16.40 | s0ck | i've seen two now running nortel over what appears to be a pri |
| 00:16.47 | riddlebox | nortel is hiring us to do their hardware work for them, and it seems like they are trying to hard to mix ip with tdm |
| 00:16.55 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: DAMN wierd, and I've seen other EU's that got full DIDs arriving, and not some overlap attempt |
| 00:17.21 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: I evaluated BCM before convincing my co to go * |
| 00:17.32 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: saved 24$K and their garbage |
| 00:17.40 | s0ck | i'd love to pop them over to * but unsure they'd have all the features they do now |
| 00:17.46 | russellb | at least it doesn't run windows :) |
| 00:18.07 | riddlebox | [TK]D-Fender, is the co, ATT? |
| 00:18.14 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: well, in principle, I consider that pretty nice indeed - you can easily extend your numbers as much as you like, if you don't care about reachability from everywhere, and stuff like that ;-) |
| 00:18.34 | s0ck | i stuck our company on * for the last two days as a test |
| 00:18.42 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: just that asterisk doesn't play very nicely with variable-length numbers in general ... |
| 00:18.47 | s0ck | general consensus was not good :( |
| 00:19.01 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: Ok, you'd have to make an IVR to collect 1 digit after the next with a shorter timeout (no need to wait so long). After each digit you'd match against ANOTHER context containing extens for the DIDs you are expecting. On match you could do an immediate Goto or wait for timeout. |
| 00:19.01 | s0ck | my * skills are clearly not on par |
| 00:19.16 | riddlebox | s0ck, its new, any new system will be greeted that way |
| 00:19.39 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Isn't the reason you are getting a number from your telco because they KNOW the complete # is for YOU and not some other company? |
| 00:19.49 | riddlebox | s0ck, how big of a company? |
| 00:20.09 | s0ck | i was greeted with the usual sla/blf whinge which i thought i'd planned for with ring groups and blf |
| 00:20.11 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: So you can "invent #'s by increasing the length at will? |
| 00:20.13 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: well, yeah - the only problem remaining is that they don't know what the "complete number" is ... |
| 00:20.17 | s0ck | typically, call quality let me down |
| 00:20.28 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: well, I'd rather call it "allocate" than "invent" |
| 00:20.32 | s0ck | small 10~ |
| 00:20.59 | s0ck | we have analoge lines as well as bri |
| 00:20.59 | riddlebox | s0ck, sla support for asterisk is a hack, do not use it, and what kind of phones did you use? |
| 00:21.13 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Ok, I believe I understand and this is a new thing to encounter, but it does make "sense". The telco has received enough of a number (prefix) to know that it goes to YOU, and leaves YOU to detimine the remainder? |
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| 00:21.22 | s0ck | 90% of our calls appear on the analogue lines |
| 00:21.30 | riddlebox | s0ck, so analog phones? |
| 00:21.31 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: exactly |
| 00:21.38 | s0ck | i've had good results with the bri card |
| 00:21.49 | s0ck | the analogue stuff was not so good |
| 00:21.52 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Interesting! Sorry about the struggle it took to get here, this is just completely ... foreign :) |
| 00:22.11 | s0ck | something i told my boss would be the case but we are kind of stuff being uk |
| 00:22.14 | jaytee | i wrote a macro today to let someone call a number, enter up to 3 extensions and then it would use Page to call all of them into a conference. |
| 00:22.20 | riddlebox | s0ck, are you using ip phones? |
| 00:22.23 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Since its variable, what kind of logic do you want for this? |
| 00:22.30 | s0ck | yeh, snom360 |
| 00:22.31 | s0ck | and |
| 00:22.36 | s0ck | unfortunately |
| 00:22.40 | s0ck | some gxp2000 |
| 00:22.54 | s0ck | the redeeming feature being blf worked |
| 00:22.59 | s0ck | typically on my trial |
| 00:23.05 | riddlebox | s0ck, how many people? |
| 00:23.06 | s0ck | it stopped fucking working |
| 00:23.15 | s0ck | it couldn't have gone worse really |
| 00:23.17 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: having a feature that works is not a saving grace, its a GRANTED!. |
| 00:23.32 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: Having a feature that DOESN'T work is a flaw. |
| 00:23.44 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: and... |
| 00:23.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ~gs |
| 00:23.46 | jbot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 00:23.47 | riddlebox | s0ck, I have GXP2000 phones and blf works great |
| 00:23.59 | s0ck | im well aware of the general opinion of gs |
| 00:24.16 | s0ck | one i subscribe to |
| 00:24.25 | s0ck | riddlebox |
| 00:24.46 | riddlebox | s0ck, you do know that you must reboot the phones if you reboot the asterisk system |
| 00:24.47 | s0ck | it worked great until i got ahead of myself and decided to update firmware to latest |
| 00:24.59 | s0ck | everything went pair shaped then |
| 00:25.13 | jaytee | the firmware on the GXP2000 phones I had shoved on me needed to be upgraded so MOH wouldn't cut out. even if you turned off silence suppression in the configuration it would never actually set it. |
| 00:25.28 | riddlebox | i am on the latest firmware, for gxp's and latest software for asterisk, and zaptel |
| 00:25.30 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: Well, I do have a list of all "existing" extensions, and I want to match incoming calls against those, obviously - and start processing as soon as it can be determined that the number is either complete or can't be completed to a valid extension anymore - and this should work for en-bloc dialed numbers as well as overlap-dialed numbers, where in the latter case I'd prefer to have a longer timeout that the simple-switch one, in ... |
| 00:25.32 | s0ck | even the snoms couldn't do a directed call pickup (**exten) |
| 00:25.36 | florz | ... the best case configurable per span |
| 00:26.09 | riddlebox | s0ck, how did you program for call pickup? |
| 00:26.20 | s0ck | blf for exten |
| 00:26.22 | s0ck | as you know |
| 00:26.29 | s0ck | it's v simple for the gxp2k |
| 00:26.36 | s0ck | it simply works |
| 00:26.54 | s0ck | im a tb noob btw |
| 00:27.45 | s0ck | i updated /tftpboot with latest firmware |
| 00:28.01 | s0ck | suddenly no phone could pickup a ringing extension |
| 00:28.15 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: this is a little tricky. |
| 00:28.21 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: indeed =:-) |
| 00:28.30 | s0ck | i dunno what happened tbh |
| 00:28.35 | riddlebox | s0ck, I have no problem doing that |
| 00:28.44 | s0ck | i |
| 00:28.56 | *** join/#asterisk onats (n=julian@unaffiliated/onats) |
| 00:28.57 | s0ck | have never had a problem with gs doing that |
| 00:28.57 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: ... but possible? :-) |
| 00:29.00 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: This would be much better checked, digit by digit with a script that had the full list of extens (not just looking at dialplan) |
| 00:29.05 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Yes possible. |
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| 00:29.07 | s0ck | typically, the one day i try it live |
| 00:29.08 | Adamb0122 | awesome |
| 00:29.13 | riddlebox | s0ck, I guess you rebooted the phones.... |
| 00:29.16 | Adamb0122 | the T1 crossover cable itself was bad |
| 00:29.24 | s0ck | i get 'that feature is unavailable" |
| 00:29.24 | Adamb0122 | replaced both ends 2x |
| 00:29.29 | s0ck | of course |
| 00:29.39 | Adamb0122 | and it didn't work, replaced the whole damn cable, works fine now. |
| 00:29.47 | s0ck | something i hadn't realised was necessary |
| 00:29.47 | Adamb0122 | Anyway, Thanks guys, sorry for such a lame issue |
| 00:30.01 | s0ck | but when blf stoppped working after a reload |
| 00:30.03 | s0ck | i realised |
| 00:30.09 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Wait... it would MASSACRE CDRs, but you COULD answer with DISA into a context with your full patterns in there. |
| 00:30.13 | riddlebox | s0ck, you are trying to do this in asterisk and you get that message? are you using asterisk, or trixbox? |
| 00:30.21 | onats | hey guys, anyone running asterisk on ubuntu? i want to setup something for my home |
| 00:30.21 | s0ck | tb 2.6 |
| 00:30.23 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: DISA allows overlap matching. |
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| 00:30.39 | riddlebox | s0ck, tb? |
| 00:30.40 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: So no IVR or anything to collect. |
| 00:30.48 | s0ck | trixbox init |
| 00:31.00 | onats | heller? |
| 00:31.01 | riddlebox | ~trixbox |
| 00:31.01 | jbot | [~trixbox] trixbox is a full linux distro that includes FreePBX and other 3rd party add-ons. It is all this extra stuff which makes trixbox VERY difficult to support, and is not supported in #asterisk. Try asking in #trixbox or on their forums & wiki at http://www.trixbox.org |
| 00:31.01 | edibrac | yay - hurray for XO communcations. They said it was a bad OC48 in Fremont, california that caused our outage |
| 00:31.10 | s0ck | aye |
| 00:31.17 | s0ck | im aware no one wants to support it |
| 00:31.19 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: Erm, and it will process the overlap-dialed digits from the signalling, as well as any en-bloc dialed extension? |
| 00:31.28 | riddlebox | s0ck, you should try asterisknow |
| 00:31.57 | s0ck | what's the difference |
| 00:32.22 | riddlebox | asterisknow, uses a gui that is made by digium |
| 00:32.37 | edibrac | with a non-root user, how can i tell if i'm getting a red alarm (or not)? I'd like to make a script that checks this, so that I know before a user tells me |
| 00:32.40 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: signalling doesn't send PART to you does it? From what it appeared, it looked like it tacke the call BEFORE the 1st digit and spools them |
| 00:32.41 | riddlebox | s0ck, or learn how to edit the conf files yourself, which is the best |
| 00:32.52 | s0ck | in my limited dealings with * so far |
| 00:32.56 | onats | hello? |
| 00:32.57 | s0ck | analog = wank |
| 00:33.02 | onats | anyone running asterisk on ubuntu? i want to setup something for my home |
| 00:33.02 | s0ck | digital = win |
| 00:33.15 | riddlebox | onats, I have compiled it on ubuntu |
| 00:33.18 | onats | i already have an FXO card, from x100p. is that a good card? |
| 00:33.20 | s0ck | when i setup the b410p |
| 00:33.29 | riddlebox | s0ck, I have analog on my system and have no issues |
| 00:33.37 | s0ck | i had great sound quality etc |
| 00:33.42 | [TK]D-Fender | onats: No, but it might do the job |
| 00:34.09 | s0ck | riddlebox: what card? |
| 00:35.04 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: what "PART"?! And currently, immediate is off, so it starts a simple switch when the call comes in, no matter whether it's overlap- oder en-bloc-dialed |
| 00:35.40 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: that way, matching works fine, just that the caller has rather little time to finish dialing |
| 00:36.42 | riddlebox | s0ck, the card I have I dont even see on the websites anymore, it looks like stuff with hardware echo cancellers are all there is now |
| 00:37.37 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: I'm wondering if "simple switch" has it working like a FXS channel would... |
| 00:38.04 | s0ck | riddlebox: it's all relative |
| 00:38.05 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Where you could start matching raw against that context. |
| 00:38.29 | s0ck | i had an x100p 12 months ago providing great quality on a single line |
| 00:38.34 | riddlebox | s0ck, I would try to use asterisknow if you want a gui |
| 00:38.56 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: Well, yeah - except for the fact that you can't do en-bloc dialing on an FXS interface |
| 00:39.05 | s0ck | i now have an aex806e (hardware echo canceller) that isn't great |
| 00:39.19 | s0ck | i dont necessarily need a gui |
| 00:39.29 | s0ck | im a slackware guy at heart |
| 00:39.40 | s0ck | however, i would like the least hassle possible |
| 00:39.44 | s0ck | and ari et al is nice |
| 00:40.17 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: before I confuse myself can you show a call with * processing SOMETHING in there so I can see the different parts of the stream?\ |
| 00:40.33 | riddlebox | s0ck, I would try install slackware, then compile asterisk, then install the asterisk-gui, and try |
| 00:40.37 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: how ya mean? |
| 00:41.22 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Show me a call that * answers and does something with. I don't see any dialplan executing, so I can't see the "pre" #'s vs the later digits. |
| 00:42.16 | s0ck | riddlebox: that's sp |
| 00:42.48 | s0ck | sp/something i've been comtemplating for a while |
| 00:43.03 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: well, the next line in that dump (except for some ISDN timer restart) was: -- Executing [996@pstn-accept:1] Macro("Zap/2-1", "process") in new stack |
| 00:43.10 | s0ck | i just assumed the distro's would do it better than i could |
| 00:43.52 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Ok, so the call comes in to 99^ (your prefix, right?), and you need to collect "analog-like" digits from there? |
| 00:44.08 | [TK]D-Fender | 996* |
| 00:44.17 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: erm, no, the prefix doesn't appear on the line - 996 is just the extension |
| 00:44.37 | s0ck | [TK]D-Fender: what's your base OS for *? |
| 00:44.48 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: I've used Slackware and CentOS |
| 00:44.49 | riddlebox | s0ck, I would see if that improves things |
| 00:45.45 | s0ck | i might have to |
| 00:45.57 | s0ck | [TK]D-Fender: what you end up with? |
| 00:46.11 | s0ck | CentOS presumably |
| 00:46.34 | s0ck | yum is too handy |
| 00:46.58 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: I stuck with CentOS. More packages, scrits for startup, etc... solid. Mind you Slackware "just works", but some things I want more "modern". EITEHR will do if you know what you're doing with them, |
| 00:48.25 | s0ck | so what you got, * + some gui? |
| 00:48.59 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: at work, I'm on a GUI (other), at home, my own. I am an independant consultant. |
| 00:49.10 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: no GUI at home) |
| 00:49.27 | s0ck | i.e. freepbx? |
| 00:49.33 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: ScopServ |
| 00:50.10 | s0ck | i ran with no gui initially but realised i lacked the features of the major distros |
| 00:50.25 | s0ck | ari being the most prominent |
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| 00:52.34 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: Any GUI might do as long as you're happy with how it runs things |
| 00:52.49 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: Getting out of its grasp is the hard part. |
| 00:53.00 | s0ck | personally, im happy with no gui |
| 00:53.18 | s0ck | but i must realise the competency of other people the company |
| 00:54.00 | [TK]D-Fender | s0ck: I do... which is why NONE of them are touching it... EVER! |
| 00:55.08 | Idle | aha, Bell confirms, the digium card is seemingly broken |
| 00:55.23 | Idle | sending too many octets for the channel ID |
| 00:55.34 | Idle | then it errors, and resends the right setup message |
| 00:56.04 | s0ck | it's great in the sense i've made myself indispensable but staff expectations are as per the previoUs nortel system (key system) |
| 00:56.06 | s0ck | Aty |
| 00:56.12 | s0ck | at the momenty |
| 00:56.30 | s0ck | i see that's a difficult migration for anyone |
| 00:56.49 | Idle | yea, we have a nortel here, and we're augmenting it with asterisk |
| 00:57.06 | [TK]D-Fender | &#^$ NorHell |
| 00:57.16 | Idle | but, the digium PRI we have seems to be causing more problems then it is solving |
| 00:57.26 | [TK]D-Fender | So glad I ditched my old 8x24 and avoided BCM |
| 00:57.30 | Idle | they love what asterisk can offer, but hate what its doing so far |
| 00:57.33 | s0ck | Idle: i feel your pain |
| 00:57.59 | s0ck | the old handsets here are like 15 years old |
| 00:58.08 | Idle | what time(s) is digium support open? |
| 00:58.29 | s0ck | they even power themselves from the existing nortel switch |
| 00:58.34 | s0ck | aka poe |
| 00:58.39 | Idle | 7-7 cdt |
| 01:00.18 | Idle | and its 8cdt |
| 01:00.28 | Idle | so, looks like I have to call monday |
| 01:01.03 | s0ck | to be fair, digium support is pretty good |
| 01:01.04 | Idle | aparently its sending a channel ID that is out of bounds |
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| 01:01.49 | Idle | 0x38, when we only have 0x28 lines :( |
| 01:01.53 | Idle | s0ck: yes, yes they are |
| 01:02.09 | Idle | I've spent several hours over the past day troubleshooting this |
| 01:02.33 | s0ck | they spent about 2 weeks ts'ing my tdm card |
| 01:02.46 | Idle | my tdm's have all worked nicely |
| 01:02.50 | s0ck | it turned out to be a pin out issue |
| 01:02.51 | Idle | its this blasted te220 |
| 01:03.12 | Idle | to date, I've had excellent experience with digium |
| 01:03.20 | edibrac | anyone know if you can get data only, from at&t for the new iphone? |
| 01:03.20 | s0ck | e/w idle |
| 01:03.37 | Idle | which is why I was so confused when this cropped up |
| 01:03.42 | Idle | e/w? |
| 01:03.49 | Idle | edibrac: yes |
| 01:04.00 | Idle | edibrac: they have that for the deaf, they JUST started offering it |
| 01:04.21 | s0ck | that's me, several pints later trying to /whois you :) |
| 01:06.08 | Idle | haha |
| 01:06.09 | Idle | nice |
| 01:06.20 | Idle | Qwell sold me his old TDM400P |
| 01:06.26 | Idle | its sitting at home, being used |
| 01:07.28 | Idle | I am gonna run some loopback tests on the card.. brb |
| 01:11.06 | s0ck | the fker im using has echo cancellatio so gl :D |
| 01:13.17 | Idle | how can you tell if you have echo cancelation? |
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| 01:14.10 | Idle | AHA! mine DOES have echo cancelation |
| 01:14.36 | Idle | ok, looks like the card is OK, from patlooptest |
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| 01:18.59 | jeev | wish i could perm unlock my RT31P or whatever linksys from vonage. |
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| 01:21.20 | cesar_CR | hello guys, when installing an asterisk server, do you use any partitioning method or you let everything in the same partition |
| 01:21.35 | Idle | woah, the IVR is blatently ignoring my keypresses |
| 01:23.21 | jeev | Idle, that happens to me sometimes |
| 01:23.41 | Idle | this is like, every single time |
| 01:24.05 | jeev | yea kind of here too |
| 01:24.09 | jeev | where is your asterisk box? |
| 01:24.17 | Idle | in the closet |
| 01:24.22 | Idle | not being gay or anything ;) |
| 01:24.28 | jeev | oh |
| 01:25.00 | Idle | its so wierd, cause waitexten seems to be at least getting the keypresses |
| 01:25.19 | Idle | it hangs up if I dont press anything, but holds the line if I do press something, its just not switching |
| 01:25.48 | jeev | no idea, i'm a pretty damn big noob |
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| 01:32.07 | Idle | yea, that 100% is asterisk, cause if I dial the phone I'm at, even when its ignoring DTMF, it sounds through just fine |
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| 01:42.11 | lmadsen | curious -- I might get some Asterisk hockey jerseys made up for fun -- embroidered logo, professional jersey (air knit). Setup fee for the logo if $250, so I'd like to split that up over a few jerseys... anyone have some serious interest in one of these jersey's? (I am *not* trying to make a profit on this -- you would obtain at my cost) |
| 01:42.39 | lmadsen | I mostly want one for myself, but maybe some other people want one too ;) |
| 01:43.30 | lmadsen | I ran some numbers, and cost would be somewhere around $100, or $120 with name + number |
| 01:45.44 | tzanger | get digium to coer it |
| 01:45.45 | tzanger | er cover |
| 01:45.51 | tzanger | it's free marketing |
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| 01:45.57 | tzanger | and beats the crap out of screwdrivers |
| 01:46.40 | lmadsen | heh :) |
| 01:46.57 | lmadsen | I might ask about it... but if they didn't want to sponsor it, I still want to do it myself |
| 01:47.04 | lmadsen | I just want one of those jerseys at astricon :) |
| 01:47.12 | lmadsen | I've wanted to make some up for 2 years now |
| 01:47.29 | lmadsen | I now have the funds that I could cover it if I had to, heh |
| 01:47.31 | tzanger | just so long as they're not purple and orange... gawd what a horrible colour scheme |
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| 01:47.39 | lmadsen | tzanger: oh certainly not |
| 01:47.46 | lmadsen | orange/white/orange |
| 01:47.49 | tzanger | orange and white was really sharp |
| 01:48.07 | tzanger | reminds me of creamsicle, but whatever :-) |
| 01:48.28 | lmadsen | maybe all the hot groupie chicks will try and lick me? |
| 01:48.42 | lmadsen | shudders at the more realistic thought |
| 01:48.45 | tzanger | damn, now you know how to sell your jerseys |
| 01:49.01 | lmadsen | put them on hot chicks? :) |
| 01:49.33 | lmadsen | welp, off to watch the Blue Jays game and NHL Entry Draft that I have paused on the PVR |
| 01:49.51 | tzanger | later, I'm off to the bar with my wife ;-) |
| 01:50.44 | lmadsen | how the hell you gonna pick chicks up with your wife hangin' around? :D |
| 01:50.57 | lmadsen | oh wait... maybe she's into that |
| 01:51.14 | lmadsen | ok... I'm really gone now |
| 01:51.15 | lmadsen | peas out! |
| 01:51.34 | Idle | great... now every single call works... |
| 01:51.40 | Idle | I hate sporatic issues |
| 01:53.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Idle: Isn't sporadic anymore... its on EVERY call! |
| 01:54.38 | jblack | sporadic does suck. |
| 01:55.20 | jblack | Last month, I had a -nasty- call drop problem... 2 or 3 times a day, the network would evaporate for anywhere from 1/2 a second to 20 seconds... breaking every call in the process. |
| 01:56.00 | jblack | Sometimes at day, sometimes at night. sometimes not for eight hours, sometimes, constantly for eight hours. It was a nightmare I tell ya |
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| 02:26.09 | testbb | is there windows client(soft phone) for asterisk |
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| 02:32.25 | James|TCC | testbb: any sip client should work |
| 02:32.32 | James|TCC | just configure it to logon to your asterisk |
| 02:39.40 | edoceo | testbb: sjphone is good and free |
| 02:51.36 | docelmo | so is zoiper and 10000x better than any free client I have used |
| 02:52.58 | lmadsen | I use both X-Lite and Zoiper at the same time for testing |
| 02:53.04 | lmadsen | great combo |
| 02:53.41 | testbb | thx I know kiax, but dont know whether it work under windows |
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| 02:54.29 | testbb | which one is open source? |
| 03:00.30 | lmadsen | none which I've found useful |
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| 03:11.24 | testbb | is there books about asterisk, I am going to setup a asterisk environment in following 2 months. |
| 03:11.34 | mwalling | ~book |
| 03:11.34 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 03:11.40 | testbb | cool :) |
| 03:11.42 | mwalling | *cough* |
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| 04:05.46 | jeev | sup lmadsen |
| 04:05.48 | jeev | leif ericson ;) |
| 04:06.01 | lmadsen | just building virtual machines |
| 04:06.07 | lmadsen | finally have my template built |
| 04:06.07 | jeev | heh |
| 04:06.09 | jeev | i had my friend drop me off man |
| 04:06.13 | jeev | he was being a loser |
| 04:06.16 | jeev | ruined my night |
| 04:06.21 | lmadsen | o.O |
| 04:06.28 | jeev | how could someone who has health issues (him) make me wait? i'm starving, havne't had food since 1 pm |
| 04:06.33 | jeev | he's making me wait to give someone a cd |
| 04:06.41 | jeev | instead of having the guy meet me at a food place |
| 04:06.47 | jeev | my friend gets headaches for 3 days, i told him im getting a headache.. |
| 04:06.55 | jeev | and he's saying im' being inconsiderate for the guy picking up the cd |
| 04:06.55 | jeev | lol |
| 04:07.04 | jeev | so let him drive another mile man fuck |
| 04:07.18 | jeev | anyway |
| 04:07.29 | jeev | man i gotta move my friends office.. what ip phones do YOU suggest? |
| 04:07.30 | lmadsen | and breathe :) |
| 04:07.49 | lmadsen | I'm having a glass of red wine and some dark chocolate |
| 04:07.54 | jeev | i told you i was having static with the polycom, could it be because the asterisk server was ~10ms away |
| 04:07.58 | jeev | i'm having lasagna :) |
| 04:08.17 | lmadsen | 10ms is pretty much an insignificant distance away |
| 04:08.25 | jeev | hmm |
| 04:08.30 | jeev | what did you say was the issue for static again ? |
| 04:08.37 | lmadsen | didn't know he did |
| 04:08.43 | jeev | you did ;D |
| 04:08.50 | lmadsen | the static I've heard seems to be because the other end is talking too long |
| 04:08.52 | lmadsen | loud* |
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| 04:09.05 | jeev | the girl said that sometimes they say they can't hear her or there is static |
| 04:09.19 | jeev | and she was having IVR issues, she'd press 3 and it wouldn't pick it up, using rfc.... whatever it is |
| 04:09.55 | lmadsen | rfc2833 |
| 04:10.11 | jeev | yea |
| 04:10.23 | jeev | what could cause the IVR not recognizing and stuff |
| 04:10.24 | lmadsen | I don't have a magic bullet for solving those issues... they need to be debugged... but rarely do I have those problems luckily |
| 04:10.34 | jeev | ahh |
| 04:10.38 | jeev | fark |
| 04:10.43 | jeev | but you say the polycom 330 is fine ? |
| 04:10.58 | lmadsen | yes, good phone in my experience |
| 04:11.03 | lmadsen | any polycom phone |
| 04:11.07 | jeev | hmm |
| 04:11.14 | jeev | so how would i debug that issue? |
| 04:11.17 | jeev | what would i need to look at |
| 04:11.41 | lmadsen | static issue that I've heard recently for my client I'm blaming the other end for talking too loud |
| 04:12.35 | lmadsen | the DTMF issue you can debug by adding 'debug' to the 'console =>' line in logger.conf to see if the DTMF is coming through. You can also check the SDP setup between the two ends by looking at the SIP trace to make sure they are negotiating correctly |
| 04:13.05 | jeev | ok tell me this |
| 04:13.09 | jeev | original test set up was |
| 04:13.10 | lmadsen | you can verify configurations between the two end points, and determine if the problem is localized to a certain scenario, or from a certain end point, or via some other unique path |
| 04:13.29 | jeev | dsl 768k up at the office, <15 miles away.. ~10-15ms |
| 04:13.30 | lmadsen | sorry, I don't want to debug someones server on a Friday evening |
| 04:13.35 | jeev | no it's not debugging |
| 04:13.37 | jeev | just a question :D |
| 04:13.59 | lmadsen | it's going to be debugging in the form of a question based on how you've started |
| 04:14.06 | jeev | asterisk server at the office > wholesale provider? or polycom tftp to the asterisk server at the datacenter > wholesale provider |
| 04:14.09 | jeev | which scenario do you prefer>? |
| 04:14.17 | jeev | ha told you wasn't debugging :D |
| 04:14.30 | lmadsen | I don't understand the question |
| 04:14.59 | jeev | ok, the set up i had was 1 polycom, would tftp to my box at the datacenter, 100mbit. it woul connect to the box at the datacenter's asterisk |
| 04:15.04 | jeev | or should i have a local asterisk server? |
| 04:15.19 | jeev | i was thinking i should have everything connect to the datacenter because i may have people take the phones home. |
| 04:15.45 | jeev | local asterisk server or datacenter asterisk server ~10ms. hahaha |
| 04:15.51 | jeev | i can't word for sh*t man sorry |
| 04:16.00 | lmadsen | put the server at whatever has the better data connection |
| 04:16.12 | lmadsen | don't over complicate it :) |
| 04:16.19 | jeev | so the datacenter.. |
| 04:16.43 | jeev | why may i ask? the same amount of bandwidth will go out and in, wont it? |
| 04:17.09 | jeev | if i have an asterisk server locally at the office on a 768k up or 2mbit up.. and all the phones go out of there through the asterisk server, isn't that the same as having all the phones connect directly to the datacenter asterisk server? |
| 04:18.21 | lmadsen | well really, the question is... what is the ratio of remote users to local users? like... do you have 2-3 remote users and 150 local users? Don't put it in the datacentre, or your whole office except 3 people are without phone service if your office loses connection to the datacentre |
| 04:18.38 | jeev | true |
| 04:18.43 | lmadsen | but if almost everyone is distributed, then it doesn't really matter, and you put it at the most reliable source |
| 04:18.49 | jeev | yea i dont know about remote users.. i dont expect any honestly |
| 04:18.57 | lmadsen | then keep it local |
| 04:19.10 | jeev | i may want to eventually set it up for my friends office too but i'd suggest his own asterisk too then |
| 04:19.13 | lmadsen | ~logic |
| 04:19.19 | lmadsen | ~logic is your friend |
| 04:19.19 | jbot | lmadsen: okay |
| 04:19.28 | Strom_C | ~logic |
| 04:19.28 | jbot | [logic] your friend |
| 04:19.29 | jeev | hey those AVAYA phones will work with ATA? |
| 04:19.31 | jeev | :D |
| 04:20.04 | lmadsen | then you can setup 2 servers and connect them via SIP and advertise your extensions to the other via DUNDi |
| 04:20.17 | jeev | i dunno what to do right now, asterisk reconfiguration or dkim, domainkeys and antivirus on my new mailserver |
| 04:20.24 | lmadsen | bah! |
| 04:20.27 | lmadsen | damn you jbot |
| 04:20.27 | jeev | yea i'll figure something out |
| 04:20.41 | jeev | the more important part is no static and working DTMF or whatever it's called |
| 04:20.55 | lmadsen | ~dtmf |
| 04:20.55 | jbot | DTMF: Dual Tone Multi-Frequency. The technical term describing Touch Tone dialing. Basically the combining of two tones, one low frequency and one high frequency. |
| 04:20.56 | jeev | it's so hot here man, stupid LA |
| 04:21.35 | lmadsen | its perfect in Toronto |
| 04:21.54 | jeev | you wanna know how hot it is in my room |
| 04:21.56 | lmadsen | clear night, light breeze, about 21C |
| 04:22.00 | jeev | 93.4 degrees |
| 04:22.00 | lmadsen | not really :) |
| 04:22.01 | Strom_C | jeev: what neighborhood? |
| 04:22.02 | jeev | with no air flow |
| 04:22.08 | jeev | glendale |
| 04:22.12 | Strom_C | i'm in los feliz |
| 04:22.17 | jeev | the street? |
| 04:22.21 | jeev | or there's actually a city :D |
| 04:22.22 | Strom_C | the neighborhood |
| 04:22.23 | lmadsen | my living room / office is the opposite of your room :) |
| 04:22.27 | jeev | hollywood area? |
| 04:22.31 | Strom_C | no...los feliz is a neighborhood of the city of los angeles |
| 04:22.36 | lmadsen | lol |
| 04:22.38 | Strom_C | right between hollywood and silver lake |
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| 04:22.42 | jeev | ahh |
| 04:22.49 | jeev | yea |
| 04:22.52 | Strom_C | jeez -- learn you some local geography, boy |
| 04:22.53 | lmadsen | Strom_C: perhaps jeev needs to get out of his room more often |
| 04:22.59 | jeev | i just came home! |
| 04:23.03 | Strom_C | that's no excuse |
| 04:23.06 | jeev | funny thing is i'm a GIS person haha |
| 04:23.11 | Strom_C | lame |
| 04:23.18 | lmadsen | lol |
| 04:23.21 | Strom_C | i'm considering going to santa monica |
| 04:23.25 | Strom_C | it's cooler out there |
| 04:23.26 | jeev | Strom_C, not hating.. but i dont know much about the ghettos |
| 04:23.26 | jeev | ;D |
| 04:23.32 | lmadsen | I'm considering going to the moon |
| 04:23.35 | Strom_C | los feliz is a ghetto? |
| 04:23.46 | jeev | anywhere hollywood and silverlake is ghetto |
| 04:23.57 | jeev | compared to my parents home and my home |
| 04:23.58 | Strom_C | what warped universe do you live in? |
| 04:24.26 | Strom_C | ever been to Downey? or Inglewood? |
| 04:24.30 | jeev | yea |
| 04:24.33 | Strom_C | or...south los angeles? |
| 04:24.37 | jeev | ever been to sherman oaks? glendale? |
| 04:24.49 | jeev | los feliz, defeinitely aint either |
| 04:25.01 | Strom_C | jeev, I've lived here for most of my life and I've been all over the area |
| 04:25.12 | jeev | cool |
| 04:25.28 | Strom_C | you sound like one of those arrogant spoiled whiny rich kids |
| 04:25.33 | jeev | no man |
| 04:25.37 | jeev | i'm just simply saying, i've heard about everything |
| 04:25.43 | jeev | but never heard about a los feliz neighborhood |
| 04:25.54 | jeev | i just have it down with the blvd, with the long ass traffic.. griffith observatory |
| 04:25.56 | jeev | i'm not hating man.. |
| 04:26.16 | Strom_C | is "i'm not hating" some sort of lingo for "it's cool for me to insult you while pretending I'm not"? |
| 04:26.23 | jeev | no |
| 04:26.27 | jeev | i'm really not trying to insult you |
| 04:26.29 | jeev | sorry |
| 04:26.32 | jeev | i just never heard of it.. |
| 04:26.42 | Strom_C | and yet you automatically call it the ghetto |
| 04:26.51 | Strom_C | jesus...what kind of judgmental asshole are you? :P |
| 04:26.57 | jeev | a cool ass one. |
| 04:27.00 | jeev | i think silverlake is wack |
| 04:27.09 | jeev | it's a bunch of mac and dog owning hippies |
| 04:27.21 | jeev | hides |
| 04:28.01 | Strom_C | .....digging the hole deeper and deeper. |
| 04:28.04 | jeev | hahah |
| 04:28.07 | jeev | man it's HOTTTTTT |
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| 04:28.10 | jeev | how hot is it there? |
| 04:28.24 | Strom_C | I don't know; us ghetto-ass folks can't afford thermostats |
| 04:28.52 | jeev | i have a little tiny thermometer! |
| 04:28.59 | jeev | i didn't even walk to the thermostat |
| 04:29.05 | jeev | everything is cool but my stupid ass room, with 4 computers goin on crazy |
| 04:29.42 | jeev | lmadsen.. does asterisk traverse nat well? how would that set up be? |
| 04:29.54 | lmadsen | jeev: who is behind NAT? |
| 04:30.04 | jeev | well, all the phones will be connected to the switch |
| 04:30.10 | jeev | i will dedicate the asterisk server to the net |
| 04:30.11 | lmadsen | is running 8 computers on 1 physical box! |
| 04:30.20 | jeev | lmadsen, damn you and your virtualization ? |
| 04:30.40 | lmadsen | jeev: externip and localnet in sip.conf will allow Asterisk to traverse NAT well, and IAX2 naturally traverses NAT |
| 04:30.54 | jeev | so my set up will be |
| 04:31.01 | jeev | cable modem 2mbit up - asterisk box - switch - phones |
| 04:31.17 | lmadsen | virtualization is where it's at -- Phenom 9600 with 4GB of RAM and 500 GB in a mirrored RAID |
| 04:31.20 | jeev | but since the polycoms have a built in switch, im too lazy to wire more ethernet or split them |
| 04:31.28 | jeev | damn, dont phenom's suck? |
| 04:31.34 | lmadsen | works pretty good for me |
| 04:31.36 | jeev | man the 4850 ATI is $150 YMMV at best buy |
| 04:31.44 | jeev | my friend just got it 199 with 10% off coupon |
| 04:31.47 | jeev | he said it kills our nvidia's |
| 04:31.55 | lmadsen | I don't play games, so video cards don't interest me |
| 04:31.55 | jeev | 9800 gtx or some shit or whatever i have, no idea.. |
| 04:32.02 | jeev | dunno, ati/amd making a comeback? |
| 04:32.03 | lmadsen | my primary machine is a MacBook Pro |
| 04:32.07 | jeev | heh |
| 04:32.15 | jeev | i got the first dual g5 that came out in 2001 it was i think |
| 04:32.26 | jeev | the thing died 16 months later, amex paid to fix it, 1500 bux.. has been working ever since |
| 04:32.34 | jeev | (brother produces with it... where has he goten? nowhere so far.. but whteaver) |
| 04:32.45 | jeev | that iphone better push their stock up |
| 04:33.46 | lmadsen | iphone meh |
| 04:33.52 | jeev | i dont care, let it go up up up |
| 04:35.04 | jeev | man, i have to sit here and unlock this stupid vonage box again |
| 04:35.14 | jeev | god i hate them, i cancelled 2 years ago and it's still lame |
| 04:37.07 | jeev | how come they dont send a monkey to mars with the rover |
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| 04:47.36 | jblack | because there are no bananas on mars. |
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| 05:16.04 | jeev | haha |
| 05:16.09 | jeev | jblack, send the damn banans there with the monkey |
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| 05:39.39 | unpaidbill | has anyone here played with pocketsphinx much |
| 05:40.01 | unpaidbill | im trying to figure out how i can do voice recognition while at the same time playing back audio to a dialed in user |
| 05:40.48 | jeev | sup unpaidbill.. no idea :D |
| 05:41.21 | unpaidbill | and the best i can come up with is using MeetMe to connect the user to the dialplan, and have the voice recog user connect to the meetme, and on the backend use pulseaudio with X pseudo devices, and chan_alsa to send audio over it to listening pocketsphinx processes |
| 05:41.33 | unpaidbill | although ... if i could somehow take out the meetme portion of it that would be fantastic |
| 05:41.55 | unpaidbill | im sure i am making no sense |
| 05:42.15 | unpaidbill | i hate the damn 'say what you wnt after hte beep' bs |
| 05:42.15 | jeev | heh |
| 05:44.07 | unpaidbill | there must be some way to snoop on audio with chan_alsa... |
| 05:46.05 | unpaidbill | oh fuck yeah chanspy |
| 05:47.19 | unpaidbill | or wtf.. maybe i can just use record and direct it at a named pipe |
| 05:47.30 | unpaidbill | someone clue me in here :/ |
| 05:51.39 | jeev | heh |
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| 05:54.14 | mchou | unpaidbill: why re-invent the wheel? |
| 05:54.27 | mchou | unpaidbill: look at Nuance |
| 05:54.51 | mchou | real voice recognition |
| 05:55.00 | unpaidbill | i'm cheap |
| 05:55.03 | unpaidbill | and i'm bored |
| 05:55.07 | mchou | lol |
| 05:55.41 | mchou | what are you gonna use for natural language recognition? |
| 05:56.01 | unpaidbill | pocketsphinx |
| 05:56.10 | unpaidbill | but just for enterinet #s, or yes/no type crap |
| 05:56.14 | unpaidbill | err, entering |
| 05:56.19 | unpaidbill | or saying someones name |
| 05:56.24 | unpaidbill | nothing complicated |
| 05:56.56 | unpaidbill | have you used nuance? |
| 05:57.11 | mchou | yup |
| 05:57.15 | mchou | you have to |
| 05:57.21 | mchou | s/to/too |
| 05:57.32 | unpaidbill | no, i havent |
| 05:57.36 | unpaidbill | im not talking about end user |
| 05:57.41 | unpaidbill | im talking administered a system :) |
| 05:57.48 | unpaidbill | i should have been more specific i suppose |
| 05:58.33 | mchou | just call GOOG-411 :) |
| 05:58.50 | unpaidbill | i was more interested on how the system is set up and how it interacts with asterisk |
| 05:58.52 | mchou | it still has a way to go |
| 05:59.13 | unpaidbill | i've used that before, several months ago |
| 05:59.34 | unpaidbill | i remember there was some bs about their stupid sound that people for some reason liked, i read an idiotic article about it |
| 05:59.56 | mchou | stupid sound?? |
| 06:00.52 | unpaidbill | yea they used to have some sound that played while it searched |
| 06:00.56 | unpaidbill | i just called and it didnt play it |
| 06:01.16 | mchou | go, I know what you're referring too |
| 06:02.07 | mchou | yeah, the dinosaur swallowing ping pong ball sound |
| 06:02.26 | unpaidbill | the biddy biddy boop shit |
| 06:02.29 | unpaidbill | that's it! |
| 06:02.30 | mchou | yup |
| 06:02.47 | mchou | I think it still exists |
| 06:03.05 | unpaidbill | http://goog411.googlegroups.com/web/1-800-goog-411.mp3?gda=Y0TV50MAAAB7GA88RxiKfMmJbBD-l3LOftcXfMw_zBUSWbpHeV8HeGG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDTr3bKJgB1KeNxedXzzC5fjaRO12GarSki7FMoIuUXfNA |
| 06:03.09 | mchou | if the search takes more than a certain amt of time it gets played |
| 06:05.18 | JohnnyBeGood | while in call how do i check which codec is used from CLI ? |
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| 06:07.11 | unpaidbill | sip show channels will do it for sip |
| 06:07.23 | unpaidbill | iax2 show channels... |
| 06:07.45 | JohnnyBeGood | I only have sip |
| 06:07.56 | unpaidbill | well there you go! |
| 06:08.32 | JohnnyBeGood | thanks, let me try |
| 06:08.41 | unpaidbill | sorry, i cant allow that |
| 06:11.34 | JohnnyBeGood | looks like I'm using ulaw |
| 06:11.46 | JohnnyBeGood | thanks for your help! |
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| 06:29.59 | gladier | hey guys, i have both my phone and my sip provider peered with my asterisk box ... but i can't get my phone to dial out/recieve calls from that box |
| 06:30.07 | gladier | provider(* |
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| 06:49.43 | testbb | is there requirements to connect asterisk PBX to cisco/avaya PBX? and is it better than *sole* asterisk pbx |
| 06:52.29 | d-k-t | connected asterisk to avaya before, but that is because of existing avaya installations |
| 06:53.12 | jeev | damn |
| 06:53.17 | jeev | i asked that question earlier and nobody answered me! |
| 06:53.37 | jeev | can AVAYA be plugged into an ATA? like a PAP2-NA without problems?/ |
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| 06:57.46 | testbb | d-k-t: is this possible in your scenario : asterisk PBX is responsible for 50% users while avaya for the rest |
| 07:00.07 | gladier | if i need to register with a username that has an @ in it how would i do that? "register => wierd\@user.com.au:pass@stun.server.net" |
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| 07:08.59 | d-k-t | testbb, yep |
| 07:09.50 | d-k-t | jeev, what sort of avaya? I've only used definitys, s8300s and s8700s, all with PRI |
| 07:11.31 | jeev | n idea bro |
| 07:11.33 | jeev | it's my friends office |
| 07:11.38 | jeev | i want to move his office |
| 07:11.40 | jeev | and set up new phones |
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| 07:29.55 | coldstea1 | hello, i have axvoice as my service and i have 3 numbers i would like 1 of them to call a specific extension how ould i do that? |
| 07:31.48 | coldstea1 | (with asterisk) |
| 07:37.01 | plik | define an incoming context for than no that Dials the extension you want... |
| 07:37.20 | plik | that question suggests you'd benefit from reading the book |
| 07:37.22 | plik | ~book |
| 07:37.23 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 07:37.36 | plik | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that book |
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| 07:48.47 | testbb | where can I look for SIP features , i.e. appointments, schedules, mails. is it part of asterisk? or do I need to find a soft client to support these features |
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| 08:26.29 | tessier | Hello all! |
| 08:27.09 | tessier | It's been a few years since I've had to deploy Cisco phones with Asterisk. If I recall correctly the phones sold as "global spares" do not come with software license, right? Anyone know ballpark figure how much I might expect to pay for a SIP license for a 7960 if I wanted to make it all legal? |
| 08:27.22 | unpaidbill | free |
| 08:27.25 | tessier | I've actually got the firmware but if I'm going to offer this as an option for a customer I prefer to do it legally. |
| 08:27.26 | tessier | Free? |
| 08:27.31 | unpaidbill | 7960 sip firmware is available for nothing |
| 08:27.41 | tessier | Interesting. Did that change sometime in the last few years? |
| 08:27.48 | unpaidbill | 7912 you gotta have a 'service agreement' in order to dl it |
| 08:27.52 | tessier | Why do they still sell the phones listed as global spares? |
| 08:27.53 | unpaidbill | which costs 8 bucks |
| 08:28.31 | unpaidbill | http://www.xs4all.nl/~graver1/cisco/SIP-7960/P0S3-08-8-00.zip |
| 08:28.38 | unpaidbill | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+phone+cisco+79xx |
| 08:28.57 | tessier | Cool, thanks! |
| 08:28.58 | unpaidbill | im not sure what global spare means, so i couldnt answer that questions! |
| 08:31.56 | ^shark_ | hi friends,can somebody tell me why i am seeing this http://www.pastebin.ca/1052358 |
| 08:34.21 | tessier | hmm...why is the SIP firmware hosted out of .nl? |
| 08:34.33 | tessier | And as of 2004 it seems you had to buy a license: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users@lists.digium.com/msg26809.html |
| 08:35.30 | tessier | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2005-March/088840.html In 2005 it looks like a SIP license cost $50 |
| 08:37.31 | coppice | Cisco can't get their heads around the idea that a phone is something you make and sell to people |
| 08:39.40 | tessier | coppice: Indeed. Are you suggesting that to be totally legit a license is still required? |
| 08:41.55 | pputman- | ^shark_, looks like it has something to do with oss and your sound card. |
| 08:42.16 | coppice | yep. they sell you a phone, and then you need a software licence to do anything with it. if consumer protection bodies were worth anything they would spank people for this crap |
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| 08:43.22 | tessier | unpaidbill: Hope you don't have any Cisco phones deployed. ;) |
| 08:43.37 | tessier | Actually, I have deployed them without licenses in the past myself. Then I decided that they were just far more trouble than they were worth. |
| 08:44.12 | tessier | Now I deploy Snom phones for business use. Work great. I should probably take a look at the Polycom but I still remember when they liked to pretend asterisk didn't exist. |
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| 08:49.22 | ^shark_ | pputman-: ok in think its something to do with the virtual machine, i installed it on my xp with vmware and it was working fine in the previous machine. |
| 08:50.46 | pputman- | ^shark_, I believe when you dial from the console it tries to plays the sound out through the actual asterisk system, so if your sound card isn't working that's what you'll see. |
| 08:51.05 | pputman- | might be wrong about that, but at least from what I've seen that seems to be the case |
| 08:51.38 | ^shark_ | pputman-: ok |
| 08:51.45 | testbb | is license associated with phone or PBX, or both |
| 08:52.34 | coppice | they'll licence the bloody mains lead before long |
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| 08:54.04 | honda_HATCH | good day |
| 08:54.17 | honda_HATCH | i having problem with my zaptel |
| 08:54.51 | honda_HATCH | actually, i don't have any telephony devices in my server |
| 08:54.58 | honda_HATCH | but error occur |
| 08:55.18 | honda_HATCH | WARNING[4120]: chan_zap.c:1072 zt_open: Unable to specify channel |
| 08:55.27 | honda_HATCH | can anybody help me? |
| 08:56.22 | honda_HATCH | anybody? =( |
| 09:03.06 | testbb | what else feature of sip do you use, besides voice over ip and instant messages. I am wondering whether there is interesting features I should deploy |
| 09:03.59 | tessier | testbb: It could be used for lots of things but those are the two most common. I bet someone uses it to set up video sessions also. |
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| 09:08.42 | testbb | I need some creative ideas to tell my boss :) i.e. schedule or team co-operation is very useful if SIP support such things |
| 09:09.52 | testbb | I mean the soft client pop up a window to display what you should do today after you log in, etc |
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| 09:18.48 | honda_HATCH | WARNING[4120]: chan_zap.c:1072 zt_open: Unable to specify channel |
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| 09:37.25 | coldstea1 | plik: are you still available? |
| 09:38.41 | plik | vaguely |
| 09:41.10 | coldstea1 | i have 3 numbers 2 of them are virtual numbers |
| 09:41.55 | plik | I have no idea what you actuall mean by that |
| 09:42.20 | plik | either they come in to asterisk as 3 seperate numbers, |
| 09:43.00 | plik | or as one - where th eother 2 point to that one before it's delivered to you - in which case there's probably not much you can do |
| 09:43.52 | coldstea1 | its 1 account but if u call any of the #s it takes me to my main line |
| 09:44.03 | coldstea1 | how would i know if there seperate #s? |
| 09:46.38 | plik | probably have to talk to your provider then... |
| 09:46.54 | plik | or try playing about and see what works |
| 09:47.30 | plik | define a context for one of the other nos, have it ring somewhere else - ot playback something - anything for test purposes |
| 09:47.58 | coldstea1 | is there a way to check what # they are calling |
| 09:48.06 | coldstea1 | not there caller id |
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| 09:51.25 | plik | again that would depend on your provider, but from what you're saying it doesn't sound like it |
| 09:58.50 | pputman- | usually the providers send that information as an extension |
| 09:59.15 | pputman- | so you can match exten => 3433,1,whatever for a 3433 number, etc... youd just have to see what they were sending you |
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| 10:10.59 | Zoup | Hi , when i run asterisk under debian , it says that '32-bit compatiblities' and started but IOwait in vmstat is 100% while there is no disk or network access |
| 10:13.41 | ^shark_ | how do i upgrade asterisk in freebsd |
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| 10:15.44 | ^shark_ | my sounds are breaking in 1.4.18.1 thats why i want to upgrade |
| 10:19.33 | lesouvage | . |
| 10:21.16 | Zoup | Zoup: and that exactly happens when i start asterisk , since by removing startup script and not starting , iowait is 0% |
| 10:22.03 | lesouvage | Sorry, just trying centericq a commandline client for every im on the planet |
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| 11:36.55 | honda_HATCH | WARNING[4120]: chan_zap.c:1072 zt_open: Unable to specify channel |
| 11:38.19 | James|TCC | have you loaded the zaptel modules? |
| 11:38.35 | James|TCC | libpri, then zaptel, then asterisk right? |
| 11:50.14 | honda_HATCH | just so worry |
| 11:50.26 | honda_HATCH | because i don't have any Zapata Telephony devices |
| 11:50.33 | honda_HATCH | how will i disable this? |
| 11:50.48 | honda_HATCH | because i don't have any Zapata Telephony devices inside the asterisk server |
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| 12:33.13 | ^shark_ | how do i play music on hold from the command line |
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| 13:29.17 | gladier | if i need to register with a username that has an @ in it how would i do that? "register => wierd\@user.com.au:pass@stun.server.net" |
| 13:32.43 | Strom | I've never seen a username that has an @ in it |
| 13:33.25 | gladier | freedigits |
| 13:34.49 | gladier | heh .. that'll teach me not to google the company :P i jsut found a config |
| 13:52.13 | [netman] | is it worth install asterisk in a 64 bit machine? |
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| 13:55.08 | jaytee | [netman], depends, i have * running 64 bit RHEL 5 and it runs just fine but I did encounter 1 thing that made me wish it was 32 bit |
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| 14:01.41 | [netman] | what did u found jaytee ? |
| 14:05.03 | jaytee | that 1 thing was that Lumenvox does not offer a 64 bit version of their Speech Engine for voice recognition, only 32 bit. the 64 is in beta but "not a priority" at this time. |
| 14:06.13 | ManxPower | why not just switch to 32-bit? Is 64-bit that much better? |
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| 14:06.53 | jaytee | but then I started thinking about it and I'm kind of glad. The 64 bit system has plenty of horsepower but I don't want to bog it down so I'm just going to use a 32bit version of * for an IVR |
| 14:07.25 | jaytee | ManxPower, for 2 reasons DELL and "Support contract" |
| 14:07.41 | ManxPower | jaytee: your 64-bit box does not support 32-bit code? |
| 14:08.00 | jaytee | it does but it came from Dell with RHEL 64 on it. |
| 14:08.11 | ManxPower | Ah! OK. |
| 14:09.18 | jaytee | I have the 32 bit code but for some reason Dell only ships 64 bit preconfigured for their linux servers and if you install the 32 bit then they will only refer you to Red Hat. If you call for support for 64 bit they're good, very good actually. |
| 14:09.59 | ManxPower | yes, buy why not run the 32-bit software on the 64-bit OS, or is that not supported? |
| 14:10.15 | ManxPower | doesn't know much about 32/64-bit real world issues. |
| 14:10.16 | jaytee | ManxPower, yes it's not supported by Lumenvox |
| 14:10.40 | jaytee | the connector piece for * is the problem |
| 14:11.09 | ManxPower | what about Lumenvox, connector, asterisk built for 32-bit? |
| 14:12.45 | jaytee | in my environment at present we are using another Dell Poweredge with dialogic board to interface with our Nortel Option 11C as an ACD agent queue. It runs Locus Liaison VR IVR software. Nuance now owns them. |
| 14:13.08 | jaytee | ManxPower, they say that way won't work. |
| 14:14.35 | jaytee | like I said earlier, they are working on it. It seemed like a nice idea to have it all on one box but now I'm thinking I can use a separate server for that and some other VOIP application. |
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| 14:16.06 | hsv-al | hello all |
| 14:17.46 | ManxPower | throw vmware on the asterisk server and run the IVR there. 8-) |
| 14:19.31 | jaytee | ManxPower, c'mon! Look, I've been hanging out in here for over a year now and I've had to learn * on my own with the book and this chat and a few websites cuz my boss is too cheap to pay for * bootcamp. Don't you think I would have thought of the VM approach already? |
| 14:20.28 | jaytee | Lumenvox's licensing is tricky in the way it uses MAC addresses so at least according to them that won't work either. |
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| 14:21.05 | jaytee | hi lmadsen |
| 14:21.15 | lmadsen | howdy! |
| 14:22.02 | lmadsen | street party day! |
| 14:22.27 | jaytee | that sounds like fun! where is this? |
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| 14:23.09 | lmadsen | downtown Toronto near by friends place :) |
| 14:23.21 | lmadsen | you nearby? |
| 14:23.29 | jaytee | nope, I'm in Indianapolis |
| 14:23.33 | lmadsen | that's too bad |
| 14:24.07 | jaytee | yeah, I'd love to go to Toronto but I'm housesitting for friends who're in Europe for 10 days. |
| 14:24.32 | lmadsen | ahhhh.... that kinda sounds like a kick in the pants :) Unless they have a really nice house and you're having a party tonight |
| 14:24.50 | lmadsen | may be in party mode |
| 14:25.10 | ManxPower | jaytee: I was mostly joking about the VM. I think VM + Asterisk = Ulcers |
| 14:25.24 | lmadsen | ManxPower: really? seems to work fine for me |
| 14:25.39 | tzanger | morning |
| 14:25.50 | lmadsen | I just did a simple load test on VMware Server Beta 2 a couple nights ago, and got 60-70 sim. calls before audio was affected |
| 14:25.51 | ManxPower | lmadsen: maybe you already had ulcers 8-) |
| 14:25.58 | lmadsen | tzanger: morning! |
| 14:26.06 | lmadsen | ManxPower: entirely possible :) |
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| 14:26.52 | tzanger | working on the dialplan for anything nontrivial will give you ulcers |
| 14:27.10 | lmadsen | bah! |
| 14:27.12 | lmadsen | pussies :) |
| 14:28.14 | tzanger | hahaha |
| 14:30.21 | jaytee | only VM in my VOIP system is sipX as a UDP/TCP proxy to Exchange UM. |
| 14:35.16 | jaytee | lmadsen says pussies and I immediately get an image of Harold Ramis on the cover of a magazine at the end of the movie "Stripes". |
| 14:37.24 | puzzled | hi |
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| 14:40.00 | tzanger | I found out last night that it is illegal for a restaurant to sell you 60oz of beer "in one drink" |
| 14:40.10 | tzanger | I ordered a pitcher for me, wife wanted a casesar |
| 14:40.12 | tzanger | er caesar |
| 14:40.29 | tzanger | the waitress told me that, then said she'd bring a second glass and it's all good |
| 14:40.32 | tzanger | heh |
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| 14:44.55 | the_5th_wheel | Can anyone tell me if there is a way t test weather my internet connection is beig shaped or not? |
| 14:45.40 | the_5th_wheel | cause my voip traffic is jittery |
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| 15:17.55 | Cybertoy | hi ... I have a weird problem.. whenever I use an IAX2 channel asterisk starts using 100% of my CPU |
| 15:18.03 | Cybertoy | that's with 1.4.21 .. |
| 15:24.31 | DarKnesS_WolF | Cybertoy: i had prolem with IAX2 voice drops after 5 sec. |
| 15:27.14 | Cybertoy | perhaps I should go 1.6 ... |
| 15:32.52 | puzzled | or sip |
| 15:33.23 | Cybertoy | well .. IAX should work given it's from asterisk. |
| 15:35.46 | mikkel | Anyone got Woomera Channel compiling with asterisk 1.6b9 and wanpipe 3.3.10. I have a Sangoma A500 BRI card. ? |
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| 15:43.25 | markid | anyone know a channel about pjsip? |
| 15:44.54 | Strom | what, there's not one when you /list? |
| 15:46.29 | markid | Strom: LIST Server load is temporarily too heavy :/ |
| 15:46.44 | Strom | hooray freenode |
| 15:47.23 | Cybertoy | guess I have to downgrade to 1.4.20.1 :( |
| 15:47.33 | Cybertoy | the iax problem happens every time. |
| 15:48.12 | jaytee | but it doesn't in 1.4.20.1? |
| 15:48.17 | Cybertoy | nope |
| 15:48.30 | Cybertoy | at least I don't remember it... I'm downgrading now ... let's see |
| 15:48.32 | jaytee | does everything else work in 1.4.20.1? |
| 15:48.50 | jaytee | cuz if it does, you've got yourself a winner!!! keep it! |
| 15:49.53 | Cybertoy | yep ... works perfect in 1.4.20.1 |
| 15:55.44 | jaytee | I'm still running 1.4.15 :-) |
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| 16:18.05 | ManxPower | Cybertoy: there have been several reports of that issue with 1.4.21 |
| 16:18.26 | Cybertoy | tnx |
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| 16:20.44 | A500mg | hello |
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| 16:45.52 | mikkel | To get sangoma A500 to run, do I need chan_woorema or can I use zaptel ? |
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| 17:05.03 | Kage[Work] | I wish to create an extension on my Asterisk PBX where people can use old-school Blue/Red/Beige Boxes and Captain Crunch Whistles to simulate old-school Phone Phreaking |
| 17:05.06 | Kage[Work] | Any suggestions? |
| 17:06.11 | Kage[Work] | Guides, tutorials, existing addons/software, ? |
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| 17:26.08 | FuriousGeorge | hey all |
| 17:26.22 | FuriousGeorge | wish i knew which package upgrade is giving me extra issues this week |
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| 17:26.35 | FuriousGeorge | just downgrading them all as we speak |
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| 17:57.16 | wonderworld | is chan_mobile working good and stable? |
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| 18:03.44 | jblack | someone rang? |
| 18:04.15 | jblack | Ahh, bananas. |
| 18:05.59 | jblack | So, I think the callerid, as distributed by ubuntu in 1.4.19, is broken. |
| 18:07.38 | rabelais | can a cdc-acm modem (from a cell phone) be used as an FXO port on asterisk? |
| 18:07.38 | jblack | Pardon, make that 1.4.17 |
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| 19:40.56 | chrisM8 | hi, my * (trunk r124504) crashes on ForkCDR(v): |
| 19:40.58 | chrisM8 | [Jun 21 20:29:21] DEBUG[3028]: pbx.c:2967 pbx_extension_helper: Launching 'ForkCDR' |
| 19:40.59 | chrisM8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:41.01 | chrisM8 | Segmentation fault |
| 19:41.03 | chrisM8 | It works OK without 'v' option. I already turned verbose/debugging but can't see any meaningful info about possible reason of the crash. What would be the best way to approach this issue? |
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| 19:50.54 | ManxPower | chrisM8: If that current within the past week or so then report it as a bug. Are you surprised? You are running a dev version, after all. There is of course /path/to/src/asterisk/doc/backtrace.txt |
| 19:51.30 | ManxPower | rabelais: no modems can be used with asterisk as an FXO |
| 19:51.54 | ManxPower | The X100P with the Ambient chipset is the only excepition and that card has not been made in several years |
| 19:53.36 | ManxPower | jblack: sounds like you need to build from source. |
| 19:54.17 | ManxPower | Kage[Work]: I believe Asterisk already supports DTMF A, B, C, and D. You would, of course, have to write custom code for the rest of it. |
| 19:55.44 | ManxPower | Ah, I see everyone just wanted to type, not actually get help. |
| 19:56.25 | hsv-al | just ate 2 chick filet sandwiches, but threw the bread away |
| 19:56.31 | hsv-al | and dipped it in polynesian sauce.......... lunch ftw |
| 19:56.48 | jeev | heh |
| 19:57.07 | hsv-al | ran 5 miles, so no guilt |
| 19:57.09 | hsv-al | in eating fast food |
| 19:57.19 | hsv-al | but of all the fast food, chick filet probably the most healthy, they use peanut oil for everything |
| 19:59.42 | jeev | man i haven't exercised since feb |
| 19:59.56 | hsv-al | been running 5 miles a day past 6 months |
| 20:00.06 | jeev | and feb wasn't even exercise, was a basketball tournament and i sat the bench, pathetic coach. i started.. got like 8 blocks in the first 3 months, taken out. every game. |
| 20:00.07 | hsv-al | dont drink sodas, and axed breads = near 70 lbs lost |
| 20:00.14 | jeev | oh i'm not a fatsol |
| 20:00.19 | jeev | i'm like 10 lbs over though from what i should be |
| 20:00.29 | hsv-al | then just run 3-4 miles a day |
| 20:00.31 | jeev | + i can't run, i've broken my nose so much i can't get enough air in |
| 20:00.36 | hsv-al | and eggbeaters for breakfest |
| 20:00.43 | hsv-al | blueberries/pomegranite juice for lunch |
| 20:00.46 | hsv-al | and fish or chicken for dinner |
| 20:00.50 | jeev | and i had surgery inside my nose.. turbinate reduction but they doctor blrew and it was wastged 14k |
| 20:00.50 | jeev | ! |
| 20:00.56 | chrisM8 | Thanks ManxPower. /path/to/src/asterisk/doc/backtrace.txt is what I was looking for. Not surprised at all. Just want to help to fix this issue. |
| 20:01.18 | hsv-al | acidjazz |
| 20:01.22 | hsv-al | your name is familiar heh |
| 20:01.29 | hsv-al | did you write some lame mirc scripts 7-10 years ago? |
| 20:01.51 | jeev | haha |
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| 20:25.41 | hsv-al | hmmmm |
| 20:25.44 | hsv-al | starting to thunder out here |
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| 20:27.32 | magic_hat | howdy, everyone. I'm thinking about using our * system to do public-opinion polling with IVR. I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on the best way to set up stuff to log data inputted with IVR. |
| 20:28.31 | timmyd | i have a hard phone behind my nat(192.168.1.8) and i'm running asterisk also behind a nat(192.168.1.21). i have ekiga soft phone on the asterisk box and it can make and recieve calls fine, but the hard phone doesn't have audio when i make outgoing calls. i have canreinvite=no because i'd like everything to just go through the asterisk box since they're on a local network but i'm not sure why it doesn't work |
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| 20:34.33 | mwalling | magic_hat: AGI? |
| 20:35.52 | magic_hat | mwalling: that, or would it be easier to just pipe the responses in a mysql query? |
| 20:40.43 | hardhatpat | magic_hat, i would think AGI would be the easiest way to handle it, and it would allow you more flexibility when storing data |
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| 20:42.00 | magic_hat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:42.07 | ManxPower | FastAGI will allow you to scale the IVR |
| 20:42.55 | magic_hat | okay, agi it is. |
| 20:43.22 | magic_hat | any other considerations you guys would be worried about in mapping out an app like this? |
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| 20:57.24 | magic_hat | okay, i'm hacking around in the documentation for a way to save the key-entry info that a caller has provided. e.g., you answer question one by pressing 2. I initialize the variable QUESTION1=2. |
| 20:57.32 | magic_hat | anyone know how to do that? |
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| 21:12.23 | docelmo | What scripting lang you using? |
| 21:13.31 | magic_hat | docelmo: okay, I'm a bit confused.... do I use AGI to pipe info from within * to another language/app? Or do I use AGI from within another lang/app to control asterisk? |
| 21:13.33 | magic_hat | or both? lol |
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| 21:13.53 | docelmo | both.. |
| 21:14.08 | docelmo | Whats your favorite programming lang? PHP, Perl, Ruby, ??? |
| 21:14.32 | magic_hat | okay, so I could write something in Ruby that'd dial some numbers, play * sound files and then collect the results? |
| 21:14.44 | docelmo | yes |
| 21:14.54 | magic_hat | that's much cooler than i thought. |
| 21:15.09 | docelmo | I dont know if there is a ruby framework for asterisk but I would imagine there is.. I personally use PHPAGI since I sit on the developers board.. :) |
| 21:15.36 | magic_hat | lol wanna have a fight about PHP vs Rails? |
| 21:15.40 | docelmo | magic_hat I have utilized AGI to build ITSP's, Emergency Dialers, Conference servers, etc.. |
| 21:16.01 | docelmo | I know both so doesnt bother me either way |
| 21:16.08 | magic_hat | that's really cool. Somehow i missed that part of it. |
| 21:16.31 | docelmo | I just use phpagi cause I know it the best and I can rapid dev apps in minutes depending on the complexities.. Hell I sometimes hack asterisk core C to make it do things I want it to do |
| 21:17.03 | magic_hat | I could dust off my php chops if i had too... looks like there's a couple of ruby interfaces too. |
| 21:17.44 | docelmo | Then have at it.. They should have decent documentation on how to do it. If you need something done fairly quick Im probably one of the least expensive integrators in the community |
| 21:18.19 | magic_hat | I think i'm gonna have a go at it, cuz I could see us doing a lot of this in the future. |
| 21:18.31 | docelmo | Im working on an intelligent call distrobution system for a emergency dialer for a client of mine now in php.. |
| 21:18.33 | magic_hat | but if I fail miserably, you'll be the first to profit :) |
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| 21:34.27 | kamh | hi all |
| 21:34.33 | docelmo | eh? |
| 21:34.50 | kamh | I configured cisco CME with asterisk as a SIP registrar |
| 21:34.58 | kamh | and voice mail works fine now |
| 21:35.03 | kamh | but i am wondering |
| 21:35.17 | kamh | if asterisk can sen or call by specific numer |
| 21:35.34 | docelmo | ?? Please explain |
| 21:35.35 | kamh | that I can use to ON/OFF an MWI button |
| 21:35.44 | kamh | on my 7960 IPPhone |
| 21:36.13 | docelmo | There are ways to do it. I have seen it done but you should check google on the best way. I dont know off the top of my head.. |
| 21:36.23 | kamh | :) |
| 21:36.34 | kamh | ok if there is a solution I will check it |
| 21:38.07 | kamh | there is a solution: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+MWI |
| 21:38.13 | kamh | thanks |
| 21:38.27 | docelmo | Just remember google is your friend |
| 21:38.39 | kamh | yeeeeeah |
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| 21:40.34 | adeel | is there a way to force what audio codec should be used on a channel on the fly/in the dialplan? for example...i have my sip trunk set to use g729 by default, but there are cases where i need ulaw, and want to set it via the dialplan |
| 21:42.22 | ManxPower | adeel: only for OUTGOING calls from the dialplan. By the time an incoming call gets to the dialplan the codec and everything else is set in stone. |
| 21:42.52 | adeel | ManxPower, how would i set it for outgoing? |
| 21:43.03 | docelmo | adell, ManxPower is right. But you can use Set(CODEC=ULAW) |
| 21:43.11 | adeel | sweet |
| 21:43.20 | docelmo | I believe the variable is CODEC it might be SIP_CODEC check voip-info on variables |
| 21:43.32 | adeel | wasn't aware it'd be that simple |
| 21:43.53 | ManxPower | adeel: look in /path/to/src/asterisk/channelvariables.txt, also do a "core show functions" |
| 21:44.02 | docelmo | Ya dont know who came up with that but its fairly slick.. I use it for T.38 when I am sending faxes |
| 21:44.07 | docelmo | this way I force t.38 out |
| 21:44.28 | adeel | ManxPower, i checked 'core show functions' and didn't see anything related to codecs, but i'll check the channelvariables.txt |
| 21:44.58 | adeel | docelm0, yeah, i'm actually going to use it for fax myself...thought about using NVFaxDetect, but wasn't sure if it forced the codec or not |
| 21:45.29 | adeel | so i wanted to double check to see if i could force the codec via the dialplan, before embarking on a path |
| 21:45.34 | ManxPower | adeel: many things that were done using variables are now done using functions. That's why I suggested you check both. |
| 21:46.52 | docelmo | adeel I dont recomend using ulaw for faxing unless its in your internal network. If you send a fax via ulaw on a public internet connection your completion rate will be somewhere in the range of 50% |
| 21:47.25 | docelmo | I find t.38 passthru is kick ass and is about 95% reliable.. |
| 21:47.51 | adeel | docelm0, but that assumes you have a t.38 fax device to begin with |
| 21:47.59 | docelmo | This is true |
| 21:48.05 | docelmo | Which I do.. |
| 21:48.16 | adeel | docelm0, and i've done some tests with my ITSP, and i can actually get fairly reliable faxing done |
| 21:48.43 | adeel | docelm0, my ITSP is literally 15 miles from my house, with a ping time of the low 20's ms |
| 21:49.10 | docelmo | Then you should be fairly set then.. But w/ ulaw if you drop a packet your fax is over.. |
| 21:49.29 | adeel | docelm0, yeah, i know |
| 21:49.35 | docelmo | You are using comcast to send faxes? |
| 21:49.50 | adeel | docelm0, the only hitch i had at first was that all communications were through g.729 |
| 21:49.52 | adeel | docelm0, yep |
| 21:50.14 | docelmo | How did you get them to let you directly connect via sip with them? |
| 21:50.26 | adeel | docelm0, oh, my ITSP isn't comcast |
| 21:50.28 | docelmo | I tried and those ass's would only allow me to use their damn IAD w/ my cable modem |
| 21:50.32 | docelmo | ohh |
| 21:50.47 | adeel | third party ITSP who's network admin i'm really good friends with |
| 21:50.56 | docelmo | What ITSP? |
| 21:51.13 | adeel | small itsp, regional to california.....equivox |
| 21:51.20 | docelmo | I thought about setting up another one.. |
| 21:51.44 | docelmo | Im waiting a few months.. My company is about to get fiber so if I do decide I will be hosting my gear there.. :) |
| 21:51.57 | adeel | hehe, where are you located? |
| 21:52.02 | docelmo | VA |
| 21:52.13 | docelmo | Lynchburg to be exact |
| 21:52.14 | adeel | where in VA? i went to UMD |
| 21:52.44 | adeel | lynchburg....hmmm..sounds familiar...is that western va? |
| 21:53.22 | docelmo | south west |
| 21:53.39 | docelmo | Im 1 hour south of Charlottesville and about 45 minutes north east of roanoke |
| 21:53.50 | docelmo | 2 hours west of richmond.. |
| 21:54.00 | docelmo | basically in the middle of egypt here.. |
| 21:54.04 | adeel | hehe |
| 21:54.29 | adeel | i setup my cousin to use my friend's ITSP instead of Vonage...he's pretty happy with it so far |
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| 21:54.42 | adeel | the one thing i like about them is that they support asterisk |
| 21:55.05 | adeel | and fast support for the most part |
| 21:56.41 | docelmo | ya.. most of the companies I have worked for support asterisk in one fashion or another.. The only thing is since I knew it I automatically got those calls.. |
| 21:56.49 | docelmo | got old after awhile.. |
| 21:57.36 | docelmo | The place I am at now I am doing all kinds of crazy shit with Asterisk 1.4 and Interactive Intelligence CIC 2.4 |
| 21:58.24 | docelmo | I work for a marketing company here.. We do marketing and call center work for companies like NRA, ARNG, ANG, etc.. so I get to play with a lot of cool shit |
| 21:58.43 | adeel | CIC 2.4? |
| 21:58.45 | adeel | never heard of it |
| 21:58.51 | docelmo | www.inin.om |
| 21:58.55 | docelmo | www.inin.com |
| 21:59.02 | docelmo | its our call center platform |
| 21:59.21 | docelmo | not using asterisk for that. Asterisk is to enhance alot of features |
| 21:59.37 | adeel | hmmm...i've setup a few small call centers using asterisk actually |
| 21:59.45 | adeel | it works pretty well i have to say |
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| 22:00.21 | docelmo | ya small.. We have 800 agents |
| 22:00.38 | docelmo | Im not even trying to span multiple asterisk boxes with app_queue |
| 22:00.46 | adeel | docelm0, well at that level, i'd do a combination of asterisk/openser/freeswitch |
| 22:00.57 | docelmo | I could but too much of a pain in the ass.. |
| 22:01.29 | docelmo | So would I.. but I dont feel like it when I have something that already does it.. besides with the amount of money the paid for CIC our ROI isnt for another 20 years.. :) |
| 22:01.53 | adeel | docelm0, haha that's EXACTLY why i would do */openser/freeswtich |
| 22:01.58 | adeel | they'd have their ROI in a few years |
| 22:03.03 | adeel | docelm0, if you're clever, you can figure out a way to do 800 seats with * |
| 22:03.06 | docelmo | Anywho.. Time to have dinner.. |
| 22:03.20 | docelmo | I could do it with Asterisk/SER/Mysql easily.. |
| 22:03.37 | docelmo | Just dont wanna and Im not allowed.. They said they are not dumping a platform they just got like 8 months ago |
| 22:04.04 | adeel | hahaha |
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| 22:58.10 | jblack | Oh man. |
| 22:58.44 | jblack | I just checked into badly dialed numbers in a call center I'm managing, and the data looks... well, for lack of a better word, sexist. |
| 23:00.39 | adeel | what do you mean? |
| 23:01.17 | jblack | I did a check for bad numbers dialed by the agents. Defined as #'s that are > 4 digits, but not 10 digits. |
| 23:02.05 | jblack | The boys are in the single digits for misdials, while the girls are in the dozens, sometimes hundreds, of misdials. |
| 23:02.56 | jblack | the boys, 73 misdials. The girls, 255. |
| 23:03.31 | jblack | And that's with 5 women and 7 men. |
| 23:09.06 | adeel | i wouldn't say the data is sexist based off that |
| 23:09.19 | adeel | i'd just say the women need to cut their finger nails, or pay more attention to dialing |
| 23:10.48 | jblack | Who on earth thinks 13125353481012512533180125387418 is a phone number? |
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| 23:15.47 | neurosys0 | can anyone recommend a good asterisk comp. voip service in the US? |
| 23:23.50 | adeel | neurosys0, what state? |
| 23:24.07 | neurosys0 | Florida |
| 23:24.11 | neurosys0 | S. Fla |
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| 23:24.59 | adeel | hmmm...les.net might be decent for you |
| 23:25.20 | jblack | I wouldn't go with them. |
| 23:26.04 | neurosys0 | mmmk :P |
| 23:27.39 | neurosys0 | what about broadvoice? |
| 23:27.54 | jblack | I don't know their behaviour personally. |
| 23:27.58 | [TK]D-Fender | les.net is one of the best rated ITSP's of users in this channel... |
| 23:28.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Broadvoice has a long history or flakey proxys, and their customer service is manned by drones |
| 23:28.36 | jblack | LES.net took twenty bucks from me, then claimed they never got anything. I was only able to get my money back by performing a chargeback. |
| 23:28.46 | neurosys0 | ouch |
| 23:29.07 | adeel | i've never had any serious problems with les.net and i've been using them for about 2years now |
| 23:29.43 | jblack | There you go, neurosys.. Many favorable comments, and one complaint of fraud. |
| 23:30.05 | adeel | jblack, how did you send your money? paypal? |
| 23:30.16 | neurosys0 | jblack: ok... well im just experimenting anyways.. so its not mission critical |
| 23:30.17 | jblack | Paypal with a credit card. |
| 23:30.30 | adeel | jblack, hmm, that's how i do my payments and haven't had a problem |
| 23:30.49 | jblack | neurosys0: If you want, there's free unlimited, incoming numbers with ipkall. They can get spotty on occasion though. |
| 23:31.03 | jblack | I find it good enough for home use. |
| 23:31.08 | adeel | as long as you can live with a 360 area code |
| 23:31.25 | jblack | True. They only hand out Washington state numbers. 360, 206, a couple others. |
| 23:32.55 | neurosys0 | i dont mind paying for a connection... i wanted to try a couple line and play with it first :) |
| 23:32.58 | adeel | anyone here have experience with the HFSC qos schedular for linux? |
| 23:33.26 | neurosys0 | i plan to run asterisk on freebsd... has anyone else? |
| 23:33.36 | adeel | why bsd? |
| 23:34.14 | neurosys0 | just the platform im familiar with |
| 23:34.27 | adeel | neurosys0, in that case, there shouldn't be any major problems (that i'm aware of) |
| 23:35.21 | neurosys0 | cool |
| 23:36.05 | neurosys0 | gotta read up on asterisk again :) the oreilly book is around here somewhere :P |
| 23:36.12 | adeel | ~book |
| 23:36.12 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 23:37.56 | neurosys0 | heh i actually have the book... just gotta find it. |
| 23:38.16 | neurosys0 | so many OReilly books heh |
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| 23:39.31 | neurosys0 | ariel_: your on a comcast connection in FL? do you run voip over that connection? |
| 23:39.50 | ariel_ | neurosys0, yes but only for my home |
| 23:39.56 | ariel_ | as comcast is not very reliable |
| 23:40.33 | neurosys0 | hmm.. what would you recommend? |
| 23:41.15 | ariel_ | as for biz or for home? |
| 23:41.19 | neurosys0 | both |
| 23:42.10 | neurosys0 | i will experiment with it ... but eventually i want to switch up (and possibly clients) |
| 23:42.30 | adeel | ariel_, what do you mean 'reliable' and compared to whom? |
| 23:42.30 | ariel_ | biz comcast should have an sla |
| 23:42.50 | neurosys0 | they do i belieev |
| 23:42.52 | ariel_ | adeel, comcast at my home goes down at least 2 or 3 times a week |
| 23:43.01 | adeel | ariel_, and where do you live? |
| 23:43.07 | ariel_ | south florida |
| 23:43.12 | neurosys0 | ariel_: same here |
| 23:43.21 | adeel | near a major city or something more rural? |
| 23:43.26 | ariel_ | but I am not the only one that has this issue |
| 23:43.32 | ariel_ | Major city |
| 23:43.43 | neurosys0 | I'm in Lauderdale |
| 23:43.43 | ariel_ | if you call a city with over 1.5 mil major |
| 23:43.51 | ariel_ | Miami |
| 23:44.02 | neurosys0 | Cool.. |
| 23:44.10 | adeel | that's weird...i use comcast in northern california and the only times i've noticed comcast going down will be very late at night once a month for maintenance |
| 23:44.55 | adeel | with comcast i guess it seems ymmv depending upon location....i recall having a ton of problems with comcast back in illinois |
| 23:44.55 | ariel_ | adeel, great to hear they have things ok there |
| 23:45.09 | adeel | but that also a decade ago |
| 23:45.24 | neurosys0 | ariel_: but obviously, you're saying comcast doesnt block your voip connection (in order to force you to use their crap)? |
| 23:46.03 | adeel | neurosys0, i haven't experienced that |
| 23:46.20 | ariel_ | neurosys0, no it does not |
| 23:47.06 | neurosys0 | ariel_: nice to have someone in the neighborhood :) ok.. thanks guys.. ill be around alot more often. see you soon |
| 23:55.06 | adeel | * can't do cRTP correct? |
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