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| 00:03.16 | ThatKidKel | Is Asterisk's UniqueID Based on the Epoch? |
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| 00:36.24 | CrashHD | what would make an actual call just drop out of the blue? |
| 00:36.33 | CrashHD | like actually disconnect |
| 00:36.36 | CrashHD | not just go dead air |
| 00:36.42 | jameswf-home | lots of stuff |
| 00:36.56 | CrashHD | I've been trouble shooting a dropped call issue for days now |
| 00:37.00 | jameswf-home | ~ask |
| 00:37.01 | jbot | it has been said that ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 00:37.01 | CrashHD | can't seem to figure it out |
| 00:37.35 | CrashHD | I have a particular issue where calls just drop |
| 00:37.40 | CrashHD | sip provider |
| 00:37.51 | CrashHD | to our sip gateway (*) |
| 00:37.59 | CrashHD | then distro out to * pbx's |
| 00:38.08 | CrashHD | (is our call routing scenario) |
| 00:38.26 | CrashHD | it only seems to be dropping calls on an inbound (from XO SIP trunks) basis |
| 00:38.51 | CrashHD | I thought it might have been timing so I redid kernels with HRT, installed ztdummy, etc. |
| 00:39.27 | CrashHD | damn calls are still dropping |
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| 00:48.27 | CrashHD | how do you view rtcp stats? |
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| 01:38.05 | bkruse | <nub> Is there a service to see if a DID currently is registered? </nub> |
| 01:41.02 | CrashHD | registered where? |
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| 01:50.24 | bkruse | CrashHD: in the US |
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| 01:50.33 | bkruse | like godaddy does for ICANN and domains |
| 01:52.35 | CrashHD | hmm not sure sorry bud |
| 01:52.40 | CrashHD | I have a hung sip call |
| 01:52.46 | CrashHD | how do I see why? |
| 01:52.59 | CrashHD | sip show history says it has no history |
| 01:53.03 | CrashHD | even though history logging is on |
| 01:53.29 | CrashHD | was in a ringing state |
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| 02:58.23 | docelmo | anyone know of a simple way to keep track of how many calls are buzzing in asterisk's manager when using the manager originate command? |
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| 03:44.27 | jbassett | Myself and my friend have now been sitting here for 17 hours and am still no closer to solving our issue of * only being able to make internal calls |
| 03:45.57 | docelmo | jbassett what are you experiencing? Gimme the short short version.. |
| 03:46.00 | jbassett | We have 1 Debian 32bit box that works fine and has done for many months. Of the 5 64bit bit machines we have set up today none of them function properly |
| 03:46.27 | docelmo | what do the logs say? |
| 03:46.28 | jbassett | We have loaded up an EEEPC with * too as it is the only 32 bitter we have left and that also has same issue as the 64 bitters |
| 03:46.32 | docelmo | Will asterisk start? |
| 03:47.01 | jbassett | asterisk starts on all boxes and calls work fine inside lan |
| 03:47.39 | jbassett | call to/from external phone functions for split second and then "rtp debug" shows the rtp traffic ending |
| 03:48.01 | docelmo | What do the sip traces say? |
| 03:49.28 | docelmo | It sounds like a possible nat issue on a reinvite |
| 03:50.20 | jbassett | shows ICMP host unreachable (the remote bintec sip router with attatched phone) possible because of SSRC issue? |
| 03:50.36 | docelmo | SSRC? |
| 03:50.47 | jbassett | first time i have heard of it |
| 03:50.58 | docelmo | not sure what SSRC is.. |
| 03:51.02 | docelmo | what version asterisk |
| 03:51.07 | jbassett | tried many |
| 03:51.18 | jbassett | from 1.4.20 to the latest |
| 03:51.32 | jbassett | This is from our bintect router log: |
| 03:52.06 | jbassett | Destroy RTP Session [223] from 192.168.0.2:2054 -> 92.232.96.141:5060 cause: SSRC check failed |
| 03:52.15 | docelmo | ahh |
| 03:52.19 | docelmo | ok its in the error |
| 03:52.52 | docelmo | I would need to see a full network udp packet dump.. Then I might be able to give my thoughts.. |
| 03:53.13 | jbassett | getting that done now |
| 03:53.19 | jbassett | where should i send it? |
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| 03:57.39 | CrashHD` | is there any way to determine when a sip call doesn't actually receieve a hangup request from either end? |
| 04:03.52 | mchou | I have a few ITSPs. I'm not sure how to associate only particular SIP handsets on outbound calls |
| 04:04.37 | mchou | inbound is no issue, works. But I'm not sure how to create an outbound dial plan..... |
| 04:05.17 | carrar | asy with AGI |
| 04:05.20 | carrar | easy |
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| 04:05.43 | mchou | say for handset [1000] makes an outbound call, Dial(SIP/provider1) |
| 04:05.50 | carrar | yeah |
| 04:05.57 | carrar | totally easy using AGI |
| 04:06.31 | mchou | carrar: you the dud that's totally in love w/AGI? |
| 04:06.37 | mchou | dude* |
| 04:06.53 | carrar | cause it makes doing everything so easy it's not even funny |
| 04:07.18 | mchou | when all you've got is a hammer, everything is a nail |
| 04:07.40 | carrar | if all you have is AGI, you don't need anything else |
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| 04:08.04 | mchou | carrar: how would you go about it w/o AGI? |
| 04:08.23 | carrar | Look at the callerid |
| 04:08.31 | carrar | like anyone else would |
| 04:08.43 | carrar | but thats pointless |
| 04:08.48 | carrar | I would use agi |
| 04:08.52 | mchou | lol |
| 04:08.56 | carrar | and a database |
| 04:09.08 | mchou | carrar: yeah, whatever |
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| 04:10.39 | carrar | If you would take the time that you've spent wining about not learning how to use AGI and actually tried to write something, you would have already written what you wanted too |
| 04:10.51 | mchou | lol |
| 04:10.59 | carrar | yeah, that is funny |
| 04:11.02 | mchou | you have zip credibility |
| 04:11.07 | WindBack | HI all, If I have the service currently running, how I can access to the CLI not stoping the service?? |
| 04:11.18 | carrar | Not looking for credibility |
| 04:11.25 | mchou | I need DB processing for a simple call? Stop joking around |
| 04:11.37 | WindBack | When I say the service i mean the asterisk daemon |
| 04:11.47 | mchou | carrar: troll somewhere else with AGI |
| 04:12.11 | carrar | You are the one asking for help |
| 04:12.47 | mchou | yup, indeedy. but you'll forgive me if you recommend AGI for EVERYTHING |
| 04:13.00 | mchou | that's sheer ludicrous |
| 04:13.01 | carrar | not everything |
| 04:13.12 | carrar | only where I think it's applicable |
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| 04:14.20 | coppice | can AGI lower gas prices? |
| 04:14.24 | carrar | WindBack, like: asterisk -r |
| 04:14.28 | mchou | coppice: haha!! |
| 04:15.17 | WindBack | carrar, thank you ! |
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| 04:38.57 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: Make extensions with different patterns to select which ITSP to dial out using. |
| 04:40.05 | [TK]D-Fender | CrashHD`: Yes, look at the list of active channels |
| 04:40.49 | C4away | I move to boot CrashHD` from the channel based on the fact that his nick makes me nervous... we don't need that kind of energy in here |
| 04:41.50 | [TK]D-Fender | C4away: Your nick starts with a name of an explosive. You could be a terrist! |
| 04:42.04 | C4away | mebby |
| 04:42.22 | C4away | or it could stand for Colorado Custom Computer Company |
| 04:42.26 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: can you elaborate a bit more? how would I select on the extension? |
| 04:42.45 | C4away | anyway, I"m mostly joking ... have had two customer's hard drives crash and burn in the past month |
| 04:42.55 | C4away | one of them even had a recent backup |
| 04:43.47 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: You select on the exten, you make the pattern UNIQUE. exten => _91.,1,Dial(SIP/provider1/${EXTEN:2}) , exten => _92.,1,Dial(SIP/provider2/${EXTEN:2}) |
| 04:44.15 | [TK]D-Fender | s/You/You don't/ |
| 04:47.26 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: what if I want handset [1000] to always be associated with provider1, w/o having the caller dial 91+phone #? |
| 04:47.54 | mchou | I mean to the caller it will look like a "normal" phone |
| 04:48.08 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: then set the context for it to one that only has extens that can dial out using that provider and you won't need some sort of unique prefix, etc |
| 04:48.51 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: ok, that's what I thought. Context is key |
| 04:51.57 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: You should go over chapter 5 of the book a few times |
| 04:52.50 | mchou | maybe. I find the book poor at explaining concepts, and it's too cookbook |
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| 04:54.25 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: No, the concetp of contexts and extensions is fairly well covered in there. The dialplan is the most important part of Asterisk. |
| 04:59.14 | C4away | ah, who needs a dialplan? |
| 05:02.08 | [TK]D-Fender | C4away: Only those who don't want every call received to simply "404" I believe. |
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| 05:13.08 | C4away | I called ViaTalk the other day and asked for the CEO by name, the guy transferred me to extension "404" |
| 05:13.30 | C4away | I thought that was funny, I need to set up an extension 404 to transfer people to that I don't want to deal with |
| 05:14.01 | jameswf-home | did you det a not found recording.. |
| 05:14.26 | C4away | hah |
| 05:14.30 | C4away | that would be funny |
| 05:14.45 | C4away | I got "the person at extension four, zero, four is not available" |
| 05:15.50 | jameswf-home | record "four oh four- the extension you were looking for does not exist or has been moved" |
| 05:16.49 | jameswf-home | do a 401 your not authorized to call this number |
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| 05:18.11 | [TK]D-Fender | 407 "You cannot dial this number yourself. Please have a receptionist forward your call here" |
| 05:23.44 | C4away | haha |
| 05:24.42 | C4away | my extension is actually 403 |
| 05:24.54 | C4away | Forbidden |
| 05:25.17 | [TK]D-Fender | lol, good one... |
| 05:25.21 | iCEBrkr | oh |
| 05:25.25 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: you're alive. |
| 05:25.33 | C4away | completely unintentional |
| 05:25.40 | C4away | however it ended up that way |
| 05:25.51 | iCEBrkr | [TK]D-Fender: Something you might be interested? |
| 05:26.04 | [TK]D-Fender | C4away: C4away At the YMCA I uses to pick locker 404 for comic relief... until I go hit with a break-in and my CC got swiped. |
| 05:26.42 | C4away | heh, damn |
| 05:27.46 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: Nifty. |
| 05:27.50 | iCEBrkr | :P |
| 05:27.54 | iCEBrkr | Since iSymphony sucks |
| 05:27.59 | iCEBrkr | FoP too. |
| 05:28.06 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: no particular ned, but I'm some others will be interested |
| 05:28.22 | iCEBrkr | I had to tell someone. :D |
| 05:28.27 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: what about hud / hudlite? |
| 05:28.34 | iCEBrkr | hud.. |
| 05:28.45 | iCEBrkr | ULTRA web2.0 on my desktop? |
| 05:28.46 | iCEBrkr | ew |
| 05:29.03 | iCEBrkr | That UI is so glossy, my mouse slips off the buttons |
| 05:31.10 | iCEBrkr | Oh, and doesn't HUD require some sort of IRC server? |
| 05:31.19 | iCEBrkr | Because I want to maintain and configure on of those. |
| 05:32.03 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: Don't kow the details, just that its out there |
| 05:32.09 | iCEBrkr | nods |
| 05:32.09 | iCEBrkr | Yeah |
| 05:32.16 | iCEBrkr | I looked into it for about 30sec |
| 05:32.31 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: So basically you've looked at it long & hard ;) |
| 05:32.54 | iCEBrkr | Yea, well, it looks like a WinAmp skin. |
| 05:33.00 | iCEBrkr | Who can take THAT seriously? |
| 05:33.15 | [TK]D-Fender | iCEBrkr: I admit, from the few pics I've seen, it loks like some punk ass kid designed it |
| 05:33.23 | iCEBrkr | hehe |
| 05:34.16 | C4away | WTF? [418] I'm a teapot |
| 05:34.24 | C4away | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324 |
| 05:35.13 | C4away | Any attempt to brew coffee with a teapot should result in the error |
| 05:35.13 | C4away | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.13 | C4away | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:35.26 | iCEBrkr | hahaha |
| 05:36.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Date says it all |
| 05:37.55 | drmessano | AstAssistant blows away HUD |
| 05:38.03 | drmessano | Uses AMI |
| 05:38.10 | C4away | how does it compare to iSymphony? |
| 05:38.13 | iCEBrkr | They all use AMI |
| 05:38.22 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, bed time, later all |
| 05:38.23 | drmessano | Hudlite uses IRC for client <> Server |
| 05:38.26 | C4away | night TK |
| 05:38.28 | drmessano | Which is lame |
| 05:38.38 | iCEBrkr | drmessano: oh, it uses IRC for EVERYTHING? |
| 05:38.40 | iCEBrkr | *puke* |
| 05:38.41 | iCEBrkr | JUNK |
| 05:39.03 | drmessano | Hudlite has a bot that spits tags into a channel |
| 05:39.08 | iCEBrkr | hahahaa |
| 05:39.10 | drmessano | Pseduo XML I call it |
| 05:39.20 | drmessano | and your client looks for the tag |
| 05:39.25 | C4away | yea, the first time I saw ircd installed on a trixbox install I said "OH CRAP! THIS BOX HAS BEEN ROOOOOTED!" |
| 05:39.54 | iCEBrkr | http://www.cyberdyne.org/~icebrkr/photo_album/displayimage.php?album=61&pos=4 |
| 05:39.58 | iCEBrkr | I need more phones! |
| 05:40.03 | drmessano | It was kinda neat writing my own bot to connect to the IRC server and spit calls into an IRC channel on another net, then it was like "Ok, thats lame" |
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| 05:40.31 | C4away | heh, I am getting close, however my collection of phones is more eclectic |
| 05:40.36 | iCEBrkr | Yeah, we had something like that.. just to show who join/left the conf. |
| 05:41.28 | drmessano | But as C4away said |
| 05:41.32 | C4away | I have an Aastra 480i, a Panasonic 2-line analog, a Grandstream GXP-2000, a Treo 700wx, and an old Western Electric analog with speakerphone module option |
| 05:41.34 | iCEBrkr | hehe |
| 05:41.42 | drmessano | How do you know if a Trixbox has been rooted |
| 05:41.55 | drmessano | Other than the IRCd and the malicious snooping code |
| 05:42.00 | drmessano | oh. wait |
| 05:42.02 | C4away | I had a poly 430 for a while |
| 05:42.08 | C4away | heh |
| 05:42.09 | C4away | yea |
| 05:42.13 | C4away | it comes pre-rooted |
| 05:42.19 | drmessano | ha |
| 05:42.21 | iCEBrkr | ha |
| 05:42.29 | drmessano | SSH password set to ssap |
| 05:42.56 | C4away | really? |
| 05:43.24 | drmessano | In 3.0, they are gonna go high security.. move SSH from 22 to 27374 |
| 05:43.25 | drmessano | No |
| 05:43.32 | C4away | damn |
| 05:43.39 | C4away | I was going to write that one down |
| 05:43.40 | drmessano | (27374 is the port Sub7 used) |
| 05:43.41 | iCEBrkr | ok oko kok |
| 05:43.49 | iCEBrkr | I got a this prototype. |
| 05:43.50 | C4away | aaah |
| 05:43.50 | iCEBrkr | http://www.cyberdyne.org/~icebrkr/pics/Projects/Call_Manager/demo/index.php |
| 05:44.09 | C4away | iCEBrkr: what did you use for the irc bot for the conference? |
| 05:44.14 | C4away | have you still the code? |
| 05:44.36 | drmessano | AstAssistant is way cooler |
| 05:44.42 | drmessano | Open Source |
| 05:45.14 | C4away | does astassistant announce join/part in an irc channel? |
| 05:45.25 | drmessano | No |
| 05:45.28 | drmessano | Hudlite doesnt either |
| 05:45.39 | drmessano | I have a massive mIRC script I used to parse the IRC data |
| 05:45.47 | drmessano | I may still have it |
| 05:45.53 | C4away | mirc script? |
| 05:45.58 | C4away | eeeew |
| 05:46.10 | drmessano | I wasnt going to write a bot from scratch |
| 05:46.22 | C4away | lol |
| 05:46.30 | drmessano | Banged it out in MSL in a few hours.. most of that was deconstructing the tags |
| 05:46.38 | drmessano | Actually |
| 05:46.51 | drmessano | I figured out not only how to read the hudlite code, but how to place calls too |
| 05:47.03 | drmessano | So I could make calls from IRC |
| 05:47.10 | drmessano | !call 104 from 101 |
| 05:47.11 | drmessano | Bam |
| 05:47.16 | iCEBrkr | But I'm hating C# and delegates and multi-threading. |
| 05:47.18 | iCEBrkr | UGH |
| 05:47.18 | C4away | nice |
| 05:47.45 | drmessano | I was going to release the code around the time Trixbox pissed me off |
| 05:48.12 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 05:48.13 | iCEBrkr | nice |
| 05:48.30 | drmessano | Then I just changed it to print "Kerry lies!" in channel every 10 secs |
| 05:48.35 | drmessano | All that work, gone :( |
| 05:49.29 | C4away | haha |
| 05:51.18 | iCEBrkr | ASTassistant is.. um.. yet another "operator" panel |
| 05:51.32 | iCEBrkr | My call manager is meant for the individual. |
| 05:51.48 | iCEBrkr | it's a call manager. not some god view of your phone system. |
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| 05:54.57 | C4away | but I want a god view of my phone system |
| 05:55.35 | iCEBrkr | You do.. maybe your receptionist does.. but Joe Office Employee doesn't |
| 05:56.39 | C4away | if I was "Joe Office Employee" I'd want that |
| 05:56.48 | iCEBrkr | Because you're a computer nerd |
| 05:56.48 | drmessano | Actually, it is supposed to be for joe employee |
| 05:56.55 | drmessano | You can hide anything you want |
| 05:56.55 | C4away | yea |
| 05:56.59 | C4away | that too |
| 05:57.28 | drmessano | It has admin settings to dumb it down |
| 05:57.28 | iCEBrkr | If you could hardly USE your phone..anything like HUD would be intimidating and utterly confusing. |
| 05:57.46 | drmessano | If you can hardly use a phone, ANY PC app is going to be too much |
| 05:57.51 | drmessano | Your logic is flawed |
| 05:57.55 | iCEBrkr | Hardly. |
| 05:58.03 | iCEBrkr | I've had many many many jobs. |
| 05:58.08 | C4away | if you can hardly use a telephone how can one expect you to be able to keep up with innovations in the industry you work in? |
| 05:58.14 | iCEBrkr | There are Excel whiz's who can't figure out how to send email. |
| 05:58.21 | drmessano | If one can hardly use a phone, how can they use a PC? |
| 05:58.31 | C4away | or a typewriter for that matter |
| 05:58.37 | C4away | or a copy machine, or a desk chair |
| 05:58.40 | iCEBrkr | haha |
| 05:58.45 | iCEBrkr | Hey! Copy machines are difficult |
| 05:58.55 | iCEBrkr | There's not a lot of buttons on them, so I'm totally lost. |
| 05:59.06 | drmessano | "Ethel cant use her phone to make calls, but shes a whiz at iCEBrkrCallApp 2.0" |
| 05:59.07 | C4away | I know, I'm throwing in items from varying levels of complexity |
| 05:59.10 | drmessano | I dont see that convo happening |
| 05:59.14 | C4away | hahaha |
| 05:59.21 | C4away | haha |
| 05:59.38 | iCEBrkr | Hey whatever man.. I'm taking a page out of ShoreTel's book. |
| 05:59.48 | drmessano | iCEBrkr: You have actually met end users, right? |
| 05:59.49 | C4away | my wife just had to tell me to quiet down I was laughing so hard |
| 05:59.54 | iCEBrkr | Obviously Cisco Call Manager sucks.. So they can keep their pages. |
| 05:59.56 | drmessano | Like, interacted with them |
| 05:59.59 | drmessano | Not just in the parking lot |
| 06:00.10 | iCEBrkr | drmessano: I was the end user at one point in my life. |
| 06:00.43 | drmessano | That doesnt count |
| 06:00.49 | drmessano | You are biased |
| 06:00.59 | iCEBrkr | I was also too smart for the app. |
| 06:01.08 | drmessano | Your experiences have been changed with your skill level |
| 06:01.12 | iCEBrkr | So I was obviously defeated by it! |
| 06:01.52 | iCEBrkr | Here's the thing. I see all these Asterisk guys, and linux guys, and nerds and dorks and programming geniuses... |
| 06:01.56 | iCEBrkr | But the thing is.. |
| 06:02.01 | drmessano | Thats like telling me "I know what end users want because before I starting writing huge apps in C++, I checked my email in Outlook Express" |
| 06:02.02 | iCEBrkr | We're smarter than the average bear. |
| 06:02.27 | iCEBrkr | All these guys are elitests. |
| 06:02.32 | iCEBrkr | Nerds shouldn't make UIs |
| 06:02.36 | C4away | your intention is honorable iCEBrkr, bringing the UI to the level of the end user is needed in more areas of computer technology |
| 06:02.38 | iCEBrkr | Nerds shouldn't write documentation and howtos |
| 06:02.49 | iCEBrkr | and guess what? |
| 06:02.51 | C4away | what? |
| 06:02.59 | C4away | ui guys should write uis? |
| 06:03.01 | iCEBrkr | All the asterisk nerds have completely MISSED the mark on Desktop Apps |
| 06:03.15 | drmessano | Wait for it.... |
| 06:03.25 | iCEBrkr | Take a years worth of your time and study usability. |
| 06:03.42 | iCEBrkr | There's a PhD for UI design and the psychology behind it for heaven's sake. |
| 06:03.43 | C4away | ... waiting |
| 06:03.54 | drmessano | Revolutionary, nobody every thought of this before in 3.....2....... |
| 06:03.54 | C4away | yea |
| 06:03.54 | drmessano | ever* |
| 06:03.58 | iCEBrkr | and some dork is going to design a UI because he can drag widgets around? |
| 06:04.00 | iCEBrkr | Gimme a break. |
| 06:04.03 | C4away | I worked for a woman who wrote a book about the psychology of computer users and ui dev |
| 06:04.08 | C4away | she was a nutjob |
| 06:04.13 | C4away | wrote a good book though |
| 06:04.16 | iCEBrkr | hahahaha |
| 06:04.20 | drmessano | Make it look like a sunflower |
| 06:04.28 | iCEBrkr | C4away: I dated one.. yes. same case.. nutjob |
| 06:04.34 | C4away | lol |
| 06:04.46 | C4away | most phych-ies are |
| 06:04.56 | iCEBrkr | Yup |
| 06:05.00 | C4away | or would they be psych-ers? |
| 06:05.05 | C4away | or psych-os? |
| 06:05.08 | C4away | heh |
| 06:05.11 | C4away | that's be a good OS name |
| 06:05.18 | iCEBrkr | hehe |
| 06:05.20 | C4away | PsychOS 2.5 |
| 06:05.31 | iCEBrkr | It knows what you want to click before you think of it? |
| 06:05.37 | drmessano | The UI could be a single white pixel in the middle of a black screen |
| 06:05.41 | C4away | "Built with your twisted Psyche in mind" |
| 06:05.47 | iCEBrkr | Or it goes around killing off random processes? |
| 06:05.50 | drmessano | STOP STARING AT ME, WHITE PIXEL |
| 06:05.52 | C4away | lol |
| 06:05.54 | C4away | haha |
| 06:06.12 | drmessano | STOP OR I AM COMING IN THERE |
| 06:06.51 | iCEBrkr | I wish there were more screenshots of apps.. |
| 06:07.00 | iCEBrkr | instead you waste your time downloading them only to find that they suck. |
| 06:07.39 | drmessano | I felt that way about asterisk |
| 06:07.46 | drmessano | Total lack of screenshots |
| 06:07.50 | drmessano | I was like "WTF" |
| 06:07.50 | *** join/#asterisk xnixan (n=xnixan@unaffiliated/xnixan) |
| 06:08.05 | iCEBrkr | yeah, and it sucks too! |
| 06:08.07 | C4away | haha |
| 06:08.08 | drmessano | Then someone was like |
| 06:08.11 | drmessano | ----> _ |
| 06:08.16 | C4away | _? |
| 06:08.19 | drmessano | and I was like "Wow, thats badass" |
| 06:08.36 | drmessano | Imagine it blinkin |
| 06:08.40 | C4away | oooooooh |
| 06:08.44 | C4away | that would be a cool screenshot |
| 06:08.47 | iCEBrkr | It really needs a whirly cursor.. |
| 06:08.52 | iCEBrkr | seriously now. |
| 06:09.20 | C4away | root@pbx asterisk> | |
| 06:09.24 | drmessano | Asterisk needs a Tux the penguin holding a buttset logo |
| 06:09.27 | iCEBrkr | ...and if you don't know what a whirly cursor is, you're too young to understand. |
| 06:09.29 | C4away | haha |
| 06:09.33 | C4away | I"m on it |
| 06:11.01 | drmessano | load "asterisk" ,8,1 |
| 06:13.22 | jblack | You rich kid you. Some of us spent a long time with load "*", 1,1 |
| 06:13.33 | jblack | and iirc, quotes weren't used. |
| 06:13.44 | jameswf-home | neat:http://www.levenez.com/lang/history.html#03 |
| 06:13.45 | C4away | how big is tux? |
| 06:13.57 | C4away | if a buttsett is about 8" tall would it be about the size of his head? |
| 06:14.02 | jameswf-home | are you calling tux fat |
| 06:14.10 | C4away | or would it be commically large in comparison? |
| 06:14.15 | C4away | and he is chubby |
| 06:14.21 | C4away | no one is debating that |
| 06:14.36 | iCEBrkr | hahaaha |
| 06:14.53 | drmessano | quotes were used |
| 06:15.04 | jameswf-home | I saw an xray he is big boned |
| 06:15.26 | drmessano | they were above the 2 as a matter of fact |
| 06:16.18 | drmessano | Star was on its own key |
| 06:16.24 | drmessano | along with that weird A looking thing |
| 06:16.33 | drmessano | Oh, yeah --> @ |
| 06:16.55 | drmessano | Never had a clue WTF that was for |
| 06:18.21 | drmessano | Actually |
| 06:18.31 | drmessano | I want to say there is a Tux logo |
| 06:18.49 | drmessano | With a phone |
| 06:19.01 | drmessano | Oh and it's load "*",8,1 too |
| 06:19.06 | drmessano | 8 was drive 1 |
| 06:19.09 | drmessano | 9 was drive 2 |
| 06:19.22 | jblack | and 1 was the tap drive |
| 06:19.47 | jblack | For those that didn't have a 1541, 1571 or 1581 |
| 06:19.53 | drmessano | didnt need an address to load a tape |
| 06:20.04 | drmessano | LOAD |
| 06:20.08 | drmessano | PRESS PLAY ON TAPE |
| 06:20.12 | jblack | it was perfectly valid, though. =) |
| 06:20.51 | jblack | I mistakenly thought that you'd catch on that I was talking about tape drives by being explicit |
| 06:21.08 | drmessano | No, figured it was an error |
| 06:22.14 | drmessano | You would only use an address on a load with a disk drive, and the ,1 at the end would make the loaded app run on load |
| 06:22.25 | drmessano | ,8,1 <-- load drive 8, then run |
| 06:22.36 | drmessano | So looked like a big fail |
| 06:23.10 | jblack | Actually, 1 meant don't relocate. |
| 06:23.49 | jblack | A lot of stuff you loaded with 1, that didn't relocate, modified the instruction pointer to start. |
| 06:25.25 | jblack | did machine language programing on that platform |
| 06:25.51 | drmessano | can tell from the misuse of the load command 0.o |
| 06:28.33 | jblack | No, I didn't misue it. :) |
| 06:28.52 | C4away | http://uploader.ptmm.com/userFiles/080803002842.TuxButtset.jpg |
| 06:29.08 | C4away | a little rough, but hey took my 15 minutes |
| 06:29.13 | jblack | http://www.geocities.com/white-flame/64/play.html |
| 06:29.37 | jameswf-home | So Mr Pinguin what are you going to do with those clips? |
| 06:29.45 | C4away | ouch |
| 06:29.47 | C4away | I mean, nevermind |
| 06:29.57 | jblack | 1 was the tape drive, 8-11 was attached drives. |
| 06:30.09 | jblack | I can't remember where the printer was, but I think it was 2. |
| 06:31.20 | jameswf-home | eww IIS |
| 06:31.23 | drmessano | Thats pretty funny, C4away |
| 06:32.10 | jameswf-home | Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 |
| 06:32.10 | jameswf-home | X-Powered-By: ASP.NET |
| 06:32.21 | jameswf-home | threw up in my mouth a little bit |
| 06:32.21 | C4away | hey, you snooping on my headers? |
| 06:32.40 | C4away | it's an old server, working on transitioning it to my linux web server |
| 06:32.41 | drmessano | http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/07/10/translateservererror.jpg <--- HAHAHA |
| 06:32.52 | C4away | still have about 4 or 5 sites that use aspx |
| 06:33.17 | C4away | haha |
| 06:33.18 | drmessano | I moved some windows IIS boxes to Apache on Windows |
| 06:33.22 | C4away | they just went with it? |
| 06:33.25 | C4away | HAHA |
| 06:33.26 | drmessano | Its like night and frigging day |
| 06:33.57 | C4away | oh yea |
| 06:34.00 | drmessano | PHP pages loading in half the time |
| 06:34.02 | C4away | I'm not debating at all |
| 06:34.30 | C4away | just that I haven't had the time to move the uploader script over to php yet, it's on the list of things that are urgent to do ... someday |
| 06:34.37 | drmessano | Thats why I keep telling people.. it aint the platform |
| 06:34.43 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:34.56 | C4away | you remember when MS bought hotmail ... |
| 06:34.56 | jameswf-home | I had a client who made me do php on IIS almost threw away a thosand dollar gig but sucked it up bcause it was $1000 |
| 06:35.15 | C4away | they publicly announced they were moving it all over to IIS and MS servers |
| 06:35.22 | drmessano | yeah |
| 06:35.24 | C4away | then it crashed and ground to a halt |
| 06:35.39 | C4away | they moved it back to linux and built about 20 times the number of servers to run it on NT 4 |
| 06:36.21 | drmessano | IIS and Exchange were the problem |
| 06:36.35 | C4away | right, but they had to run it on MS servers |
| 06:36.40 | C4away | couldn't have it any other way |
| 06:36.44 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 06:37.06 | C4away | even if it meant admitting defeat by building out 20 times the number of servers to handle it |
| 06:37.14 | C4away | "See! MS can do what Linux does!" |
| 06:37.20 | C4away | "yea, poorly" |
| 06:37.37 | drmessano | You read articles on the history of exchange, and its hilarious |
| 06:37.57 | drmessano | It started off as such poorly written shit code, they never thought they would use it anywhere but internal |
| 06:38.05 | drmessano | Got some bugs worked out, decided to sell it |
| 06:38.11 | jameswf-home | sadly windows runs better in a vm under linux than in a real install |
| 06:38.20 | C4away | it is still poorly written shit code |
| 06:38.25 | C4away | after all ... it's microsoft's code |
| 06:38.26 | drmessano | true |
| 06:39.18 | C4away | bugs have been propigated through major versions of their applications unchecked |
| 06:39.22 | C4away | look at office |
| 06:39.35 | C4away | there are bugs in there from 97, and they are just introducing new ones |
| 06:39.36 | drmessano | 8 and 9 year old bugs |
| 06:39.45 | C4away | office 11 can't multiply or divide? |
| 06:39.50 | C4away | I mean wtf? |
| 06:40.29 | C4away | well we grossed insaine revenues this quarter ... |
| 06:40.39 | C4away | "uh, your math is off a bit there Bob" |
| 06:40.46 | C4away | "no it isn't I had Excel do the calculations" |
| 06:40.53 | C4away | "there's your problem..." |
| 06:41.08 | drmessano | lol |
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| 06:41.15 | jblack | COOL! http://www.dreamfabric.com/c64/ |
| 06:46.50 | styelz | cant find the bloody shift key... |
| 06:47.56 | styelz | oh, its caps lock.. |
| 06:48.14 | styelz | neat |
| 06:48.38 | C4away | uh, what kind of oddball keyboard are you on? |
| 06:48.54 | styelz | lets see what random pokes do |
| 06:49.11 | styelz | this JAVA c64 emu |
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| 06:56.04 | BBHoss | anyone know how FPU intensive G729 transcoding is? |
| 06:57.05 | C4away | I assume they use float not int math |
| 06:57.10 | bkruse | C4away: yes. |
| 06:57.20 | BBHoss | single or double? |
| 06:57.22 | C4away | so probably nearly 100% float |
| 06:57.26 | C4away | I don't know |
| 06:57.28 | C4away | lol |
| 06:57.33 | bkruse | recommends the g729 transcoder card |
| 06:57.38 | C4away | I'm presuming all of this anyway |
| 06:57.47 | BBHoss | bkruse: i'm researching something |
| 06:57.55 | bkruse | BBHoss: Explain |
| 06:58.00 | bkruse | C4away: It is indeed float |
| 06:58.13 | BBHoss | how many channels a cell processor could transcode |
| 06:58.48 | BBHoss | a single PS3 can do 204 gflops of single and 15 gflops of double |
| 06:59.31 | bkruse | BBHoss: Actually, there was an Asterisk PS3 thing, the problem is that it cannot take full advantage of the huge cell environment |
| 07:00.15 | BBHoss | from the docs, each SPE in the PS3 has a theoretical yield of 25 gflops, and the ps3 has six accessible spes |
| 07:00.17 | bkruse | BBHoss: I even commented on it awhile ago :) http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=56061&sid=99423237af2daa335bb2772165718432 |
| 07:00.32 | BBHoss | well of course it won't work unless you program for it |
| 07:00.52 | bkruse | http://www.flickr.com/photos/spyzter/329314646/ |
| 07:01.07 | bkruse | BBHoss: It is not an "of course", it is more of a "it will work, just not take full advantage of" |
| 07:01.27 | BBHoss | well its just gonna use the throttled down cpu that sony gives us access to |
| 07:01.36 | bkruse | eww |
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| 07:02.10 | BBHoss | but i have seen fast ray-tracing demos done on the ps3, without using any graphics hardware, 100% cell+PPC |
| 07:02.48 | bkruse | wow, that is impressive |
| 07:02.51 | bkruse | ray-tracing = awesome |
| 07:03.04 | BBHoss | yeah |
| 07:03.19 | BBHoss | bkruse: so when is asterisk going to be re-written in erlang? |
| 07:03.37 | bkruse | BBHoss: Heh, actually, I love erlang and I am an erlang programmer |
| 07:03.39 | bkruse | use sip :) |
| 07:03.49 | bkruse | eg YXA |
| 07:03.56 | BBHoss | bkruse: awesome, we may need your help, you very experienced in erlang? |
| 07:04.29 | bkruse | Not VERY, it is the one programming language I intend to learn better, and better future development |
| 07:04.37 | bkruse | btw, the erlang sip stack.....no RTP support :/ |
| 07:04.37 | bkruse | lol |
| 07:04.56 | BBHoss | yeah i just bought the book from the barnes and noble the other day, they only had 1 |
| 07:05.17 | bkruse | oh wow, yes, great book |
| 07:05.21 | bkruse | "The" reference |
| 07:05.47 | BBHoss | right now i'm using rabbitmq |
| 07:05.58 | bkruse | the community isn't huge, but for scalable, failover, distributed systems, erlang. |
| 07:06.02 | BBHoss | yeah |
| 07:06.10 | bkruse | The only downside that you run into is socket capabilities |
| 07:06.17 | BBHoss | are you going to school or staying at digium? |
| 07:06.35 | bkruse | both, school in huntsville |
| 07:06.38 | bkruse | university @ home |
| 07:07.21 | bkruse | (uah), maybe, idk, we will see what happens |
| 07:07.45 | BBHoss | yeah uah isnt bad |
| 07:07.52 | BBHoss | if you remember i live in huntsville too |
| 07:08.05 | bkruse | I do, now. :) Have we ever met? |
| 07:08.26 | BBHoss | no i dont think so |
| 07:08.29 | bkruse | Have you ever toured Digium? |
| 07:08.58 | BBHoss | yeah i know mark |
| 07:09.27 | bkruse | Cool, I was going to see if you wanted to do that :) |
| 07:09.38 | bkruse | Well let's meet for lunch, eat some food, and talk about Asterisk and geek stuff one day |
| 07:09.47 | bkruse | I am also working on some cool openmoko stuff |
| 07:09.54 | BBHoss | awesome |
| 07:09.58 | BBHoss | i've got a cool project |
| 07:10.10 | bkruse | Tell :] |
| 07:10.28 | BBHoss | we'll talk about sometime this week if you want |
| 07:10.49 | bkruse | Sounds great. bkruse@digium.com, 256-652-6584 (cell/txt) |
| 07:10.57 | BBHoss | we could meet at digium if you want |
| 07:11.28 | bkruse | Sounds great, we have an aromas coffee shop |
| 07:11.38 | BBHoss | yeah its quite nice |
| 07:11.50 | bkruse | It is cool :) |
| 07:11.52 | BBHoss | i got the tour before it was finished |
| 07:12.08 | bkruse | Oh, well you have to see it now. Let me know when you want, anytime between 11-1 during this week would work |
| 07:12.20 | BBHoss | ok i'll probably txt you |
| 07:12.29 | bkruse | Sounds good! |
| 07:13.00 | bkruse | I am going to go to sleep after I do just,a,few,more,lines of code :) |
| 07:13.04 | BBHoss | ok |
| 07:13.05 | bkruse | Good talking to you again, ttysoon |
| 07:13.09 | BBHoss | k |
| 07:13.43 | C4away | I was going to say "how can you sleep after a few lines?" |
| 07:13.48 | C4away | and then I saw you said Code not Coke |
| 07:14.02 | BBHoss | heh |
| 07:24.18 | C4away | a little cleaner version: http://uploader.ptmm.com/userFiles/080803012321.TuxButtset.jpg |
| 07:28.02 | BBHoss | i wonder what this "huge" discovery on mars is? |
| 07:28.53 | C4away | I would guess martian mice turds or something |
| 07:28.53 | jblack | i bet it's somethign silly, like "We found nitrogen in the soil" |
| 07:29.25 | jblack | But I'm a hopeful sort, and hoping for grafiti that says "You guys voted for whom???" |
| 07:29.52 | C4away | probably a mountian formation that under low-resolution imaging the shadows almost appear to form a humanoid face |
| 07:30.51 | BBHoss | heh |
| 07:31.05 | BBHoss | well it would have to be something major, if they briefed the president on it |
| 07:31.07 | jblack | Here's 2006: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1593131/posts |
| 07:39.00 | ragix | Does Background() support multiple sound outputs? |
| 07:39.12 | ragix | like BAckground(foo,bar) |
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| 08:06.51 | BBHoss | ragix: show application background will tell you what it supports |
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| 08:41.32 | jblack | 2s, asthma and other respiratory problems and our dogâs variety of sensitivities, using chemicals to treat our property is not an option. Even with Sears'-Once-A-Year-Pest-Control, the boric acid sprayed into our walls and around the perimeter of the house did not thwart the onslaught of bugs, snakes and similar critters. The RIDDEX® modules performed as the manufacturer claimed without the need for additional chemicals or t |
| 08:41.38 | jblack | sorry. |
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| 09:22.35 | deitarion | What's the appropriate dialplan for "There's an plain old traditional PSTN phone call on the line shared by Zap/1. Join me in."? |
| 09:24.26 | C4colo | you want to bridge another channel into an existing call? |
| 09:24.47 | deitarion | An existing call that doesn't route through Asterisk. |
| 09:25.23 | deitarion | The house is on plain old analog PSTN and I want to be able to use my computer as a speakerphone... but I always let someone else answer the phone. |
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| 09:29.54 | JT | can't do it. |
| 09:30.53 | deitarion | JT: You're telling me there's no way to tell Asterisk "Regardless of whether the line's already off the hook, connect extension 102 to Zap/1"? |
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| 09:35.10 | mchou | deitarion: what did you find out? |
| 09:35.57 | mchou | deitarion: be interested in the answer. I'm dubious whether asterisk can do it, though |
| 09:36.40 | deitarion | If it can't, I'll probably have to start another ultimately futile attempt to learn C. (My mind seems to be stuck on languages like Python, PHP, and shell scripting) |
| 09:37.17 | mchou | deitarion: seriously, how do you envision it working? |
| 09:37.35 | mchou | I mean does it flash conference or what? |
| 09:38.00 | mchou | (to the other line all ready in progress) |
| 09:38.19 | deitarion | The SIP client would think I'm just dialing an extension. The PSTN line would think that someone just picked up a second handset. |
| 09:38.40 | mchou | naw. no friggin way. |
| 09:39.10 | mchou | no way asterisk thinks you're on the other extension in the house :) |
| 09:39.23 | deitarion | I don't think you grasp what I mean |
| 09:39.30 | jblack | That sounds like some sort of automatic 3 way. |
| 09:39.43 | mchou | jblack: exactly |
| 09:40.19 | deitarion | At present, here's how I take calls. Completely Asterisk-free home POTS. My ringer is off and, whenever there's a (rare) call for me, someone shouts down that the call is for me. I think pick up the phone and start talking. |
| 09:40.43 | jblack | deitarion: How about they transfer the call? |
| 09:41.19 | jblack | [flash][office ext]"Hi dad. Call for you." "Ok son, transfer it" [flash][hangup] |
| 09:41.28 | mchou | jblack: yup, makes sense to me |
| 09:41.51 | jblack | Yeah, * already does that. At least, it's compatible with ATAs that do it. |
| 09:42.08 | deitarion | jblack: I'm an unemployed university student living in my mother's basement. I could barely afford an X100P. (outbound calls are working and sound good enough for me) I can't afford an Analog Telephony Adaptor to route every call in the house through my computer. |
| 09:42.40 | mchou | deitarion: or you can just get a cheap phone with that capability |
| 09:42.46 | mchou | $20 |
| 09:42.50 | mchou | 3 handsets |
| 09:42.51 | jblack | Maybe you should spend more time with the want ads, and less time trying to transfer calls. ;) |
| 09:42.57 | mchou | lol |
| 09:43.13 | deitarion | mchou: I'd have to buy five cheap VoIP phones. |
| 09:43.20 | jblack | Yeah. My cordless phone does that. |
| 09:43.20 | mchou | jblack: how do you know, maybe it a potential employer on the line :) |
| 09:43.31 | jblack | You can page handsets during calls. |
| 09:43.34 | mchou | deitarion: no, a PSTN phone |
| 09:43.52 | mchou | 2 or more handsets |
| 09:44.01 | mchou | one "line" |
| 09:44.19 | mchou | transfer calls, virtual extension, etc |
| 09:44.33 | jblack | Yeah. I have a 3 line DECT cordless set I picked up for.. 80 bucks? One in my bedroom, two in my office. |
| 09:44.49 | jblack | pardon, 3 handset. Just one line. |
| 09:44.52 | mchou | 3 line or 3 handsets? |
| 09:44.55 | deitarion | mchou: You're saying that, without any special (overpriced) phone company offerings, Asterisk can notice the momentary voltage change of a Flash button? |
| 09:45.01 | *** join/#asterisk fordfrog (n=fordfrog@gentoo/developer/fordfrog) |
| 09:45.22 | mchou | deitarion: sure, it should |
| 09:45.35 | deitarion | ...because pretty much every phone in the house has one of those. |
| 09:45.57 | jblack | deitarion: Yes. Most every ATA and FXS detects flash with 0 problem. |
| 09:46.09 | mchou | deitarion: you dont even need ip phone or ATA for this :) |
| 09:46.17 | deitarion | jblack: I keep saying that I'm not using an ATA or an FXS module. |
| 09:46.32 | mchou | standard cordless phones do this just fine |
| 09:46.34 | deitarion | mchou: How would I set that up? |
| 09:46.50 | jblack | deitarion: Most cordless phones have a "page" button. It's that simple |
| 09:47.01 | deitarion | No, I mean on the asterisk end. |
| 09:47.06 | mchou | I just said go buy some cordless phones with this feature :) |
| 09:47.33 | Strom_M | any analog phone should be able to flash |
| 09:47.40 | jblack | mchou: Do you get the feeling that he's trying to hook phones up to * via his ethernet ports, or his cordless phones via 802.11b ? |
| 09:47.41 | mchou | I got unidens w/3 handsets (all have speakerphone) for $20 total |
| 09:48.03 | deitarion | Oh, wait... I don't think it'd work. The one service we do have on our phone line is Call Waiting and that's triggered by Flash. |
| 09:48.23 | mchou | jblack: quite frankly I have no idea how he hooks up his phone to * w/o ATA :) |
| 09:48.32 | jblack | deitarion: Dude, the "flash" stuff was asterisk related. the paging stuff we're talking about is a special button on the PHONE |
| 09:48.39 | mchou | lol |
| 09:48.42 | jblack | As in "NO asterisk" |
| 09:48.45 | mchou | who's on first? |
| 09:49.22 | deitarion | jblack: The two non-negotiable parts of this setup are "My computer must be used as a speakerphone" and "The other phones in the house don't get replaced". |
| 09:49.26 | mchou | deitarion: step down from that ivory tower into the real world man! |
| 09:49.53 | mchou | deitarion: PSTN phones have improved significantly |
| 09:50.26 | deitarion | And no PSTN phone within my price range will accept a button-press on my LIRC remote as a signal to go off-hook in speakerphone mode. |
| 09:50.31 | mchou | deitarion: are you handicapped in some way? Why must the computer be involved in this? |
| 09:50.41 | deitarion | mchou: Because, I'm lazy, geeky, and stubborn. |
| 09:50.53 | mchou | yeah, we gathered that |
| 09:51.33 | mchou | you're willing to spend effort setting up lirc but not willing to invest in speakerphone? |
| 09:51.39 | mchou | wtf??? |
| 09:52.03 | C4colo | I've been there |
| 09:52.18 | C4colo | until recently time was much more plentiful than money |
| 09:52.25 | deitarion | mchou: I have no driver's license, no job, and I live in the middle of nowhere. My father is legally deadbeat and my mother is living below the poverty line. I'm willing to spare time, but I don't have money. |
| 09:52.26 | C4colo | ... now both are scare |
| 09:52.31 | mchou | C4colo: then you know LIRC is infinitely harder than spending $20 :) |
| 09:53.00 | Sweeper | hoooooly shit comcast is blocking voip |
| 09:53.04 | C4colo | YAY |
| 09:53.07 | C4colo | I mean shit |
| 09:53.12 | jblack | sweeper: I doubt that. |
| 09:53.15 | mchou | C4colo: for real?? |
| 09:53.27 | C4colo | I've suspected degredation on their network for years |
| 09:53.31 | mchou | C4colo: stop giving ppl heart attacks man |
| 09:53.40 | deitarion | LIRC is already set up on this box and has been set up for ages. It's 5 to 10 minutes' work (at most) for me to have a button send a DCOP or D-Bus "dial this extension" signal. |
| 09:53.43 | C4colo | blocking is new |
| 09:53.44 | Sweeper | jblack: well, I changed the sip port on my asterisk server to 7000 and everything magical worked |
| 09:54.00 | mchou | C4colo: linky pls? |
| 09:54.01 | Sweeper | before I got timeouts to my sip server, and two others |
| 09:54.08 | jblack | you're total proof is "my computer didn't work" ? |
| 09:54.13 | Sweeper | no... |
| 09:54.13 | C4colo | link to? |
| 09:54.21 | jblack | For all I know, you were trying to run siproxd and asterisk on the same machine. |
| 09:54.28 | mchou | C4colo: comcast blocking voip |
| 09:54.31 | Sweeper | my total proof is that 3 clients, 4 providers, two routers didn't work on standard sip ports |
| 09:54.38 | C4colo | I use IAX2 and set my asterisk server to accept IAX2 connections on port 80 as a precaution against blocking networks |
| 09:54.40 | Sweeper | oh, and a hardphone |
| 09:54.56 | C4colo | however, it is still UDP so if they block that I"m still screwed |
| 09:55.00 | Sweeper | but when I configurd the server and client to use 700, magical BING |
| 09:55.06 | Sweeper | *7000 |
| 09:55.18 | C4colo | Bing Crosby started playing? |
| 09:55.21 | mchou | I have no idea what you guys are referring to. I'm on comcast and voip works just fine |
| 09:55.27 | styelz | lol |
| 09:55.55 | Sweeper | mchou: yea, someone in GA sad that too. I'm in FL... |
| 09:56.05 | C4colo | comcast operates regionally |
| 09:56.10 | mchou | I'm in CA |
| 09:56.10 | Sweeper | oh, and it worked with the normal configs on the neighbor's wifi |
| 09:56.20 | C4colo | the P2P blocking started in smaller markets and then moved out |
| 09:56.23 | Sweeper | let me check what isp the neighbor has... |
| 09:56.28 | *** join/#asterisk defswork (n=andy@mx1.3gcomms.co.uk) |
| 09:56.33 | C4colo | they used a different sort of rules in Colorado than others reported in other areas |
| 09:56.36 | jblack | sweeper: comcast _just_ got in trouble with the FCC, who explicitely stated 'don't fruck with voip' |
| 09:56.43 | Sweeper | *shrug* |
| 09:56.53 | C4colo | they could be that arrogant |
| 09:56.55 | mchou | what's that old saying? Don't attribute to malice by what is actual incompetence |
| 09:57.18 | C4colo | infact I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find that all three of them habittually thwarted the FCC's mandates |
| 09:57.23 | mchou | or something to that effect |
| 09:57.34 | deitarion | I think it was "Do not attribute to malice, that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" |
| 09:57.38 | mchou | I'm full of bushisms :) |
| 09:57.48 | C4colo | I'd purge those quickly |
| 09:57.53 | C4colo | try exlax |
| 09:57.54 | Sweeper | I'm not exactly inexperienced in network forensics, and I'v been messing with this for a few hours. if I check the neighbor's ip and it's not comcast, I'm going to gogogo slashdot |
| 09:57.57 | deitarion | Yeah. --> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor |
| 09:58.11 | C4colo | I"ll vote it + on the firehose |
| 09:58.23 | C4colo | nylon razors? |
| 09:58.36 | C4colo | what are those? pantyhose that shave your legs? |
| 09:59.04 | mchou | C4colo: seriously, unless you have proof you're just screaming fire in a crowded theater |
| 09:59.17 | C4colo | IM NOT SCREAMING ANYTHING |
| 09:59.29 | C4colo | talk to Sweeper about screaming theater in a firestation |
| 09:59.47 | Sweeper | mchou: what else would you consider proof? |
| 09:59.50 | mchou | comcast has done some crappy things but all of us on comcast in this channel would know by now if it were true :) |
| 10:00.14 | C4colo | all of you in the specific florida region that Sweeper is in? |
| 10:00.25 | C4colo | how many is that, so far only one I know if |
| 10:00.26 | C4colo | of |
| 10:00.39 | Sweeper | multiple sip servers in known good configs, multiple clients that worked in other places, a hardphone |
| 10:00.43 | jblack | sweeper: Here's your proof: http://linuxguru.net/~jblack/comcast.jpg |
| 10:00.51 | mchou | C4colo: like I said, maybe comcast or sweeper doesnt know what he is doing there |
| 10:00.51 | C4colo | one way to prove it more effectively is to place the sip device directly on the cable modem |
| 10:00.56 | C4colo | rule out misconfiguration of ports, etc |
| 10:01.21 | Sweeper | C4colo: that is one thing I haven't tried yet, although I did try DMZ'ing the computer with the cliens |
| 10:01.38 | C4colo | just as further testing, not saying you don't know how to port forward, seems you have done your troutbleshooting, even using the nation-wide Wi-Fi network called Linksys channel 6 |
| 10:01.50 | Sweeper | ah, last thing failed me |
| 10:01.56 | Sweeper | C4colo: that's what I have been |
| 10:01.59 | C4colo | lol |
| 10:02.06 | C4colo | yea, you mentioned that |
| 10:02.16 | Sweeper | neighbor is on comcast too, I gues it's not them :P |
| 10:02.19 | C4colo | anyway, yea, I've seen routers do some unexplainable things |
| 10:02.31 | jblack | I have clients in Washington state that occasionally do 10 concurrent calls over comcast. |
| 10:02.34 | Sweeper | is somewhat disappointed |
| 10:02.43 | C4colo | damn, I wanted to nail their testicles to a silver platter |
| 10:02.48 | Sweeper | jblack: that's nice. comcast is regional :v |
| 10:03.07 | Sweeper | goes off to slap ddwrt on his router |
| 10:03.17 | mchou | sheesh |
| 10:03.21 | mchou | dumbasses |
| 10:03.23 | C4colo | like I said, the p2p blocking started small in specific regions and then spread once it had been worked out |
| 10:03.58 | mchou | C4colo: remain clam |
| 10:04.02 | C4colo | also they modify the types of filtering based on the behaviors and available resources in the regions |
| 10:04.03 | mchou | calm* |
| 10:04.05 | Sweeper | mmm clams |
| 10:04.06 | mchou | :) |
| 10:04.16 | C4colo | I am not a Clam! I am a MAN! |
| 10:04.36 | C4colo | why is Plumb spelled with a 'b' but Clam is not? |
| 10:04.37 | Sweeper | blocking voip in fl would be pretty dumb tho, as they have to compete with fios here |
| 10:04.47 | C4colo | clambor is |
| 10:04.59 | Sweeper | no it's not >.> |
| 10:05.04 | C4colo | clamor |
| 10:05.07 | C4colo | clamour |
| 10:05.09 | C4colo | calmer |
| 10:05.21 | C4colo | who knows nowdays how people ar spellin stuffs |
| 10:05.24 | C4colo | I don't |
| 10:05.31 | Sweeper | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.37 | mchou | deitarion: seriously, look into analog phones. maybe even in goodwill. You'll be pleasantly surprised |
| 10:05.47 | C4colo | yea |
| 10:06.12 | C4colo | I got an old Western Electric analog handset with the speakerphone option for $5 |
| 10:06.14 | C4colo | I was stoked |
| 10:06.21 | C4colo | my wife, however, was not as enthusiastic |
| 10:06.22 | mchou | deitarion: just make sure the batteries arent too worn down |
| 10:06.42 | mchou | cause those cost almost as much as the damn phone |
| 10:07.07 | C4colo | yea, I don't use speakerphones that aren't full-duplex anymore |
| 10:07.11 | C4colo | my Aastra ruined me |
| 10:07.24 | Sweeper | eh? just pull an appropriately voltaged adaptor out of the bin at goodwill and hardwire it |
| 10:07.46 | deitarion | mchou: What would the point be? I'd still have to somehow run a wire to my bed to put a phone next to it. |
| 10:07.58 | mchou | Sweeper: yeah, but then it wont be cordless :) |
| 10:07.58 | jblack | you kind of defeat the purpose of a cordless phone, if you hook it up to a power adapter. |
| 10:08.11 | Sweeper | oh, CORDLESS |
| 10:08.18 | jblack | Are you sure you went to college? |
| 10:08.22 | mchou | deitarion: which part of CORDLESS dont you grok? |
| 10:08.30 | deitarion | mchou: It has to be charged some time. |
| 10:08.48 | C4colo | I am still waiting for a real solution for wireless power |
| 10:08.55 | Sweeper | deitarion: strip solar cells out of old calculators! |
| 10:08.59 | C4colo | those charging pads are neat ... but only milliampres |
| 10:09.07 | mchou | I charge mine once/wk |
| 10:09.12 | deitarion | Sweeper: I live in the basement. |
| 10:09.15 | C4colo | I want like 300A power distribution wireless |
| 10:09.16 | jblack | I can't wait for that MIT solar->fuel cell stuff to become real. |
| 10:09.30 | Sweeper | deitarion: install full spectrum lighting! owait... |
| 10:09.39 | C4colo | how much are fuel cells nowdays? |
| 10:09.48 | deitarion | Sweeper: I like it dim. |
| 10:09.55 | C4colo | would they be a viable option for battery backup systems for datacenters and the like? |
| 10:10.11 | jblack | they're talking 24 hour power from solar without batteries, in 10 years. |
| 10:10.23 | deitarion | The whole point here is that, if I could, I'd never use the phone. As it is, I want to get rid of the hassle involved when I do have to use it because the other party doesn't offer Internet-based communications. |
| 10:10.32 | Sweeper | screw that. build me a fission plant now :v |
| 10:10.48 | mchou | deitarion: what? |
| 10:10.56 | Sweeper | 24 hour power now \o |
| 10:11.07 | jblack | ditarion: For about six bucks a month, you can get a did and a couple hundred minutes of calls over voip. |
| 10:11.28 | deitarion | As such, I need two features: First, it has to integrate with my existing keyboard+moust+monitor control setup. Second, I don't want any more crap next to my bed for answering calls when I'm still half-asleep. For that, it has to be a speakerphone controlled by the LIRC remote that's already on my bedside table. |
| 10:11.32 | mchou | deitarion: potential employers call you up, you say "I'm sorry, I dont do phones." |
| 10:11.47 | deitarion | jblack: I'm on Bell Canada. They're currently being investigated for throttling stuff. |
| 10:11.53 | jblack | Yes, because it takes a lot of rest to sit home and do nothing. |
| 10:12.00 | mchou | jblack: really? which provider is that? |
| 10:12.05 | deitarion | jblack: I'm a full-time university student using distance education. |
| 10:12.14 | mchou | lol |
| 10:12.16 | jblack | mchou: callwtihus should be close. |
| 10:12.27 | *** join/#asterisk C4colo (n=DJpyro@66.185.107.193) |
| 10:12.27 | mchou | that sounds like a diploma mill :) |
| 10:12.31 | C4colo | blast and crap and stuff |
| 10:12.47 | C4colo | I missed it, what's a diploma mill? |
| 10:12.53 | jblack | mchou: Bet I can make you laugh. :) |
| 10:12.54 | deitarion | mchou: Athabasca University. Last I hear, they're the only Canadian university to also be fully acredited in the U.S.. |
| 10:12.55 | mchou | sigh.... |
| 10:13.01 | jblack | Imagine being deitarion's parents. |
| 10:13.02 | deitarion | s/hear/heard/ |
| 10:13.15 | deitarion | Ugh. Time to switch to something the bot can't parse. |
| 10:13.22 | mchou | Athabasca? |
| 10:13.24 | mchou | wow |
| 10:13.38 | mchou | you studying geology or hydrology? |
| 10:13.43 | Sweeper | deitarion: some basic soldering could probably convert any analog speakerphone into a useable mic/speaker combo you could wire to your soundcard |
| 10:14.00 | Sweeper | actually |
| 10:14.15 | deitarion | Sweeper: Too hacky and too much hassle. |
| 10:14.23 | Sweeper | just about anything from the bargain bin at goodwill would work |
| 10:14.25 | C4colo | there is something that does that, it's called a magic jack |
| 10:14.29 | mchou | good god |
| 10:14.34 | deitarion | Besides, doesn't satisfy the "must not clutter up my bedside table with extra crap" rule. |
| 10:14.34 | C4colo | lol |
| 10:14.47 | Sweeper | huh? so put it somewhere else... |
| 10:14.59 | C4colo | steal a bluetooth headset off some poor fool walking down the street |
| 10:15.01 | Sweeper | you're just lazy, is the problem :P |
| 10:15.01 | deitarion | Sweeper: Then how am I supposed to answer calls while half-asleep? |
| 10:15.02 | mchou | deitarion: get some frigging exercise, ya lazy bastard! |
| 10:15.08 | Sweeper | deitarion: with your remote? |
| 10:15.12 | jblack | Heh. the extra crap in hte basement isn't a speaker phone. The extra crap is _YOU_ |
| 10:15.28 | C4colo | why would he be on his own bedside table? |
| 10:15.46 | deitarion | Never mind. A chatbot would probably understand my point of view faster than you guys. |
| 10:15.48 | jblack | because walking across the room to sit on the chair is too much effort? |
| 10:15.56 | Sweeper | if he slept on his besdies able, the bed would be the bedside table! |
| 10:16.01 | deitarion | jblack: If I get up, I can't fall asleep again after the call is over. |
| 10:16.11 | mchou | jblack: dude, he probably doesnt have a chair or table |
| 10:16.37 | mchou | well, aside from the bedside table |
| 10:16.49 | jblack | No, we get it. You're a lazy high school graduate going to the easiest equivilant of a college you can get, because getting a real job would be too much work. i so, so, so pity your parents. |
| 10:16.51 | mchou | which probably has his lappy on top |
| 10:16.51 | Sweeper | deitarion: you fail :v any mic + speaker placed in proximity of your bed would solve your problem, but you're too lazy to work out a solution. wtf |
| 10:17.31 | Sweeper | if my wife didn't isapprove, I might build one into the headboard of the bed... |
| 10:17.37 | C4colo | so what was the point again? |
| 10:17.41 | jblack | Phone sex. :) |
| 10:17.48 | C4colo | you want a cordless speakerphone? |
| 10:17.49 | mchou | deitarion: I have some tin cans and string I can mail you :) |
| 10:17.53 | deitarion | jblack: No, Athabasca University is actually known for being more difficult. I'd gladly get a job, but my mother's insurance would nearly double if I didn't have my own fully-insured vehicle the day I got my full license and she can't afford that. |
| 10:17.59 | Sweeper | jblack: worse, inadveran phonesex! |
| 10:18.04 | deitarion | (Welcome to Ontario, the Province without a middle class) |
| 10:18.32 | Sweeper | *inadvertant |
| 10:18.44 | C4colo | hah |
| 10:18.51 | Sweeper | or better, I guess, depending on your point of view... |
| 10:18.58 | C4colo | cell phones are bad enough at that |
| 10:19.04 | mchou | deitarion: dude, judging from what you're saying it has NOTING to do with economics |
| 10:19.13 | C4colo | oops, you just called your grandmother on accident while having sex in the back seat of your car |
| 10:19.14 | mchou | NOTHING* |
| 10:19.25 | C4colo | nothing? |
| 10:19.35 | mchou | zip/nada |
| 10:19.42 | Sweeper | C4colo: speaking from experience? :P |
| 10:19.54 | C4colo | haha I wish |
| 10:20.00 | C4colo | wait... |
| 10:20.03 | Sweeper | oh, btw, don't ever ever use deltathree as a sip provider |
| 10:20.11 | C4colo | or viatalk |
| 10:20.11 | deitarion | mchou: It's simple. I'm somewhat obsessive-compulsive and I'm trying to set up a comfortable living space without the money to do it properly. (by routing all the calls in the house through Asterisk) |
| 10:20.12 | Sweeper | sooooo full of shit |
| 10:20.32 | C4colo | deitarion: how well do you know asterisk? |
| 10:20.44 | mchou | deitarion: I dont even understand how you're connecting a phone to * |
| 10:20.53 | jblack | You're trying to be comfortable in you're parent's basement? |
| 10:21.06 | mchou | deitarion: you have zaptel HW? |
| 10:21.24 | deitarion | jblack: I got the master bedroom because my mother didn't want to sleep in the basement. Aside from the lack of a kitchenette and ensuite bathroom, I've basically whipped up a bachelor apartment. |
| 10:21.32 | jblack | he said he can't afford an FXS, FXO, ATAs and such, remember? |
| 10:21.52 | C4colo | chan_oss.so |
| 10:21.55 | deitarion | I have an X100P card that I eBayed. I was able to spare that much. |
| 10:21.57 | mchou | jblack: that's why I'm asking for clarification |
| 10:22.09 | mchou | oh lord |
| 10:22.18 | mchou | ~X100P |
| 10:22.18 | jbot | it has been said that x100p is an obsolete card. You don't want to bother trying to make it (or any of the "digium compatible" clones) work. Get a TDM01B, and you will save your sanity, your hair, and countless other things. |
| 10:22.21 | C4colo | deitarion: make sure you install OSLEC |
| 10:22.21 | Sweeper | so you have an intel modem >.> |
| 10:22.29 | deitarion | C4colo: Already on the TODO list. |
| 10:22.48 | tzafrir_laptop | BTW: is OSS supported in latest Linux kernels? |
| 10:22.50 | C4colo | x100p is an FXO card |
| 10:22.57 | deitarion | I'd have gone for proper hardware, but I couldn't spare the $100+ to buy it and ship to Canada. |
| 10:22.59 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (n=Dovid@tony09-118-62.inter.net.il) |
| 10:23.05 | mchou | deitarion: how many computers you got? |
| 10:23.07 | C4colo | how are you connecting the analog station to the pbx? |
| 10:23.14 | jblack | something you may not understand, but past about age 18, you shouldn't be comfortable living in your parent's house unless someone is either missing limbs or sanity. |
| 10:23.28 | deitarion | C4colo: I'm not. |
| 10:23.35 | Sweeper | jblack: eh, I could see single parent |
| 10:24.05 | mchou | guys, please keep parents out of this |
| 10:24.06 | C4colo | then this talk of a cordless analog phone is pointless |
| 10:24.07 | mchou | :) |
| 10:24.08 | deitarion | I'm trying to use Asterisk to jerry-rig an overly feature-rich speakerphone. As far as the rest of the house is concerned, there is no PBX. |
| 10:24.10 | mchou | thank you |
| 10:24.32 | C4colo | you forgot *jedi-hand-wave* |
| 10:24.57 | C4colo | or something ... anyway |
| 10:25.00 | mchou | deitarion: who pays the electric bill? |
| 10:25.08 | deitarion | My mother. |
| 10:25.12 | C4colo | so how does this overly feature-rich speaker phone work? |
| 10:25.22 | C4colo | ALSA? |
| 10:25.39 | deitarion | C4colo: SIP-based VoIP client |
| 10:25.48 | C4colo | on a laptop? |
| 10:25.54 | deitarion | Desktop. |
| 10:25.57 | C4colo | or compatible |
| 10:25.58 | C4colo | yea |
| 10:26.01 | mchou | deitarion: who makes the phone? |
| 10:26.19 | C4colo | so out of the desktop you have a headset? |
| 10:26.25 | C4colo | wait speakerphone |
| 10:26.28 | C4colo | mic and speakers? |
| 10:26.31 | deitarion | Yeah. |
| 10:26.45 | C4colo | how do you plan to handle the echo from the mic and speakers? |
| 10:26.45 | jblack | Do you know how much a speakerphone costs at walmart? 14 bucks. |
| 10:26.53 | deitarion | Mic's a noise-cancelling one intended for Skype that's good enough for me to be heard clearly from my bed. |
| 10:26.58 | C4colo | plus the cost of an fxs |
| 10:27.02 | C4colo | wait, without asterisk? |
| 10:27.05 | C4colo | yea 14 bucks |
| 10:27.06 | jblack | You can save your mother 20 bucks a month in electricity by having her give you a speakerphone. |
| 10:27.16 | deitarion | My computer's on 24/7 anyway. |
| 10:27.16 | C4colo | you mean 60 bucks a year |
| 10:27.28 | mchou | jblack: exactly why I asked who pays the electric bill |
| 10:27.36 | *** join/#asterisk k-man (n=jason@unaffiliated/k-man) |
| 10:27.50 | jblack | Somehow, I suspect that deadbeat son here has a plenty nice video card and some quad core system. |
| 10:28.01 | jblack | with a nifty 40 watt 22" lcd. |
| 10:28.01 | mchou | hehe |
| 10:28.13 | mchou | or maybe a Mac :) |
| 10:28.22 | jblack | yeah, probably. |
| 10:28.27 | deitarion | I can't fall asleep without music, it doubles as a media server for the house, and it does the RSS broadcatching for favorite shows like House M.D. (hers) and Mythbusters (everyone's). (we can't afford cable) |
| 10:29.05 | mchou | RSS broadcasting? what is that? |
| 10:29.10 | Sweeper | catching |
| 10:29.22 | C4colo | using a feed reader to scour torrent trackers that are RSS compatible |
| 10:29.24 | Sweeper | tv torrent sites have rss feeds for series |
| 10:29.30 | mchou | oh, ok |
| 10:29.40 | jblack | You can save them enough money to be able to afford cable if you GET A JOB |
| 10:29.49 | C4colo | works well if you don't mind bad encodes, incorrectly titled shows, duplicates and other crap |
| 10:30.01 | mchou | deitarion: how are you hooked up on the WAN? |
| 10:30.07 | deitarion | jblack: I am looking for work. I'm just limited by the fact that I CAN'T GET A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR I'M OUT ON MY ASS. |
| 10:30.25 | C4colo | have you considered being a freelance asterisk consultant? |
| 10:30.34 | mchou | yoza! |
| 10:30.37 | C4colo | lol |
| 10:30.39 | deitarion | I only just started playing around with it last month. |
| 10:30.51 | deitarion | I have been looking at being a freelance Python programmer though. |
| 10:30.53 | mchou | deitarion: how are you hooked up on the WAN? |
| 10:30.59 | deitarion | mchou: DSL 5Mbit/800Kbit. |
| 10:31.01 | C4colo | linksys channel 6 |
| 10:31.14 | Sweeper | I don't see how getting a driver's license would double your mother's insurance |
| 10:31.17 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (n=chatzill@tony09-118-62.inter.net.il) |
| 10:31.27 | k-man | how can i monitor what happens with a dial plan for debugging? |
| 10:31.28 | C4colo | they assume he is driving her car |
| 10:31.42 | Sweeper | he should get his own car :v |
| 10:31.45 | deitarion | And young men in Ontario get ripped off. |
| 10:31.45 | mchou | Sweeper: cause he has no prior driving experience :) |
| 10:31.49 | Sweeper | on his own insurance! |
| 10:31.50 | C4colo | however most insurance companies allow you to specifically deny coverage for family members |
| 10:31.58 | Sweeper | young men EVERYWHERE get ripped off |
| 10:31.59 | deitarion | Not here, apparently. |
| 10:32.02 | Sweeper | welcome to the party |
| 10:32.27 | deitarion | Not in the prairies. For example, Manitoba insurance is pretty much flat-rate. |
| 10:32.27 | Sweeper | well, they don't actually get ripped off |
| 10:32.28 | C4colo | yea, I just turned 25 recently I was like WOO HOO! this is almost as good as my porn and ciggerettes birthday |
| 10:32.50 | Sweeper | insurance companies are just really good at numbers :D |
| 10:32.51 | deitarion | You just get fined twice (at the time and when you renew your license) if you screw up. |
| 10:33.10 | mchou | fined 2x for what? |
| 10:33.20 | C4colo | everything |
| 10:33.23 | deitarion | screwing up in Manitoba while driving. |
| 10:33.35 | C4colo | you get taxed when you receive money and again when you spend it |
| 10:33.36 | mchou | define screwing up |
| 10:33.47 | mchou | like speeding ticket? |
| 10:34.03 | jblack | I got taxed for making no income. |
| 10:34.14 | mchou | jblack: hahah! |
| 10:34.35 | mchou | jblack: you know Canada has universal health coverage :) |
| 10:34.39 | deitarion | mchou: I don't remember the details. My mother discovered it while looking into insurance. (partly because, though I'm not big on travel, my brother has wanderlust big-time) |
| 10:34.49 | mchou | he has to contribute his share |
| 10:34.50 | C4colo | speaking of screwing up ... you hear about the guy who got his sentence altered to 2 years in jail because he hit someone while drinking, then went out and partied with a "jail bird" shirt on for halloween, the pics showed up on facebook and they thew him in jail? |
| 10:34.54 | k-man | when i try and dial out, asterisk says call from x to extension 31234556 rejected because extension not found |
| 10:35.10 | k-man | but i set up a dial plan that it should use my sip host to dial out numbers that start with 3 |
| 10:35.22 | C4colo | check the dialplan to make sure there is an exact or pattern match for 31234556 |
| 10:35.31 | k-man | C4colo, ok |
| 10:35.36 | C4colo | hmm |
| 10:35.38 | C4colo | what is the pattern? |
| 10:35.47 | C4colo | _3XXXXXXXXX |
| 10:35.50 | C4colo | _3.? |
| 10:36.04 | jblack | Here's a way to make pocket change. rentacoder.com. You'll be competing with the indians, but it's a way to bring some money in. |
| 10:36.05 | C4colo | is there an _ at the beginning? |
| 10:36.10 | k-man | exten => _3.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1}@sip.mynetfone.com.au,30) |
| 10:36.25 | C4colo | context |
| 10:36.38 | C4colo | is the call going to the context that that extension is defined in? |
| 10:36.41 | k-man | [default] |
| 10:36.45 | deitarion | jblack: There are some other sites like that too. I was planning to look into them in a few weeks actually. |
| 10:36.48 | jblack | k-man: You probably want exten _X.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}) |
| 10:36.59 | C4colo | not if he wants to match the first digit 3 |
| 10:37.14 | C4colo | he/she |
| 10:37.16 | deitarion | At present, I'm working on finishing up a website for someone in exchange for some services and preparing a resumé for someone else. |
| 10:37.17 | jblack | After you fuck around with 'lets make our computer into a 1500 dollar speakerphone' ? |
| 10:37.18 | C4colo | I'm assuming again |
| 10:37.19 | k-man | jblack, i just copied an extensions.conf from my provider |
| 10:37.29 | k-man | i don't really care how i decide if its an outside line |
| 10:37.41 | jblack | Ok... |
| 10:37.43 | jblack | two lines. |
| 10:37.49 | k-man | i mean an outside number as opposd to a local extension |
| 10:37.49 | deitarion | jblack: That's scheduled as leisure time. |
| 10:38.06 | jblack | exten => NXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/YOURAREACODE{$EXTEN}) |
| 10:38.16 | jblack | exten => NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(SIP/{$EXTEN}) |
| 10:38.21 | C4colo | jblack I assume you mean _NXXXXXX |
| 10:38.25 | jblack | And don't assign local 7 and 10 digit extensions. |
| 10:38.34 | jblack | Yes, I meant to add a _ |
| 10:38.39 | k-man | jblack, i am in australia |
| 10:38.55 | C4colo | then make the patterns longer than extensions |
| 10:38.59 | jblack | If you understand the concept from the examples, that's good enough for me. |
| 10:39.03 | C4colo | for example _XXXXX. |
| 10:39.04 | k-man | ok |
| 10:39.20 | C4colo | and use 4 digit, or _XXXX. and use 3 digit extensions |
| 10:39.48 | C4colo | ambiguity kills |
| 10:40.41 | C4colo | brb, need foods |
| 10:41.23 | deitarion | thinks BBHoss has the right idea. (AFK) |
| 10:42.48 | mchou | need help on this....I have SIP/provider1/acct1 and SIP/provider1/acct2 and serveral sip clients. |
| 10:43.30 | mchou | I want to restrict certain sip clients to using 1 acct. How do I achive this? |
| 10:43.57 | jblack | Put the sip clients in different default contexts. |
| 10:44.42 | mchou | and how do I refer to those different context in the dial plan? |
| 10:45.03 | mchou | need a quick example..... |
| 10:45.21 | jblack | you just make different contexts in the dialplan, and set the sip accounts, in sip.conf, to default to the different onces. |
| 10:46.29 | mchou | so in sip.conf, [1000] context=acct1 (as an example) |
| 10:47.16 | mchou | and then in extension.conf, [acct1] exten=>Dial(acct1)? |
| 10:47.25 | mchou | something like that? |
| 10:48.45 | jblack | something like this: |
| 10:48.46 | jblack | http://pastebin.com/m72f87638 |
| 10:49.07 | jblack | and in sip.conf, user1 has a default context of dialgroup1, and user2 has a default context of dialgroup2 |
| 10:49.17 | mchou | damn |
| 10:49.24 | jblack | what? |
| 10:49.44 | mchou | way above my head. Havent even read up on groups :) |
| 10:49.57 | jblack | Groups? These are just contexts. |
| 10:50.25 | mchou | oh, for a second I thought they were call groups or something :) |
| 10:50.53 | C4colo | you can name them whatever you want, dialgroup1 is just a logical name for the contetxt |
| 10:50.55 | jblack | you can call them apple and grape if you wish. |
| 10:51.05 | mchou | yeah yeah |
| 10:51.27 | C4colo | you could name it [contextofdeath] and it probably wouldn't kill anyone |
| 10:51.32 | jblack | anyways, I wrote that off the top of my head, so no promises on the syntax. |
| 10:51.35 | C4colo | unless it didn't allow 911 calls |
| 10:51.48 | C4colo | looks good from what I saw |
| 10:52.14 | mchou | ok, thx jblack |
| 10:52.21 | C4colo | I found it interesting you included provider2 in dialgroup1 and provider1 in dialgroup2 |
| 10:52.31 | mchou | heh |
| 10:52.48 | jblack | Just by chance. |
| 10:53.00 | jblack | I did a couple shift-deletes and shift-inserts writing it |
| 10:53.20 | jblack | personally, I don't like naming variables XXX1 and XXX2. |
| 10:53.39 | C4colo | providerfoo and providerbar are always options |
| 10:53.53 | mchou | yeah. bad example on my part |
| 10:54.04 | jblack | I was referring more to dialgroup1 and dialgroup2 |
| 10:54.12 | C4colo | yea that too |
| 10:54.13 | *** join/#asterisk Kernel_Core (n=I@85.133.155.134) |
| 10:54.28 | C4colo | mine was an example as well, not specific to any one item in the example script |
| 10:54.37 | jblack | Better goodusers and badusers or... [deadbeatchildren] and [workingfolk] |
| 10:54.44 | C4colo | haha |
| 10:55.35 | C4colo | my wife makes some damn good chili |
| 10:55.44 | C4colo | now I need icecream to counteract the heat |
| 10:56.06 | jblack | my keyboard is wearing out. |
| 10:56.20 | C4colo | I added quite a bit of spicy sauce, gives you a good warm glow in the belly, not much unlike a good shot of whiskey |
| 10:56.24 | C4colo | mine is worn out |
| 10:56.37 | C4colo | I'm getting the G11 keyboard from logitec as soon as I have the $70 |
| 10:56.58 | C4colo | macro buttons up the wazoo |
| 10:57.08 | C4colo | imagine writing asterisk dialplans with that sucker |
| 10:57.13 | C4colo | 36 programmable macro keys |
| 10:57.15 | jblack | He's a guy that plays the keyboard with his feet. deitarion could learn a lesson. |
| 10:57.22 | C4colo | although I could just switch to AEL instead |
| 10:57.37 | jblack | oh sorry. Guitar. |
| 10:57.45 | jblack | I've considering moving to ael. |
| 10:58.28 | jblack | I'm that is. |
| 10:58.34 | jblack | Maybe it's not the keyboard. |
| 10:58.52 | C4colo | no more exten => 3033033003,1,foo / exten => 3033033003,n,bar / exten => 3033033003,n,meh / exten => 3033033003,n,etc / exten => 3033033003,n,and / exten => 3033033003,n,so-on / exten => 3033033003,n,and-so-forth |
| 10:59.04 | jblack | dude, just use pastebin. |
| 10:59.10 | C4colo | that was one line |
| 10:59.36 | jblack | That was also hard to read. |
| 10:59.42 | C4colo | that was the point |
| 10:59.43 | *** join/#asterisk The-Bat (n=karthik@203.199.114.33) |
| 10:59.45 | Kernel_Core | anybody faced this problem ? http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2008-June/214093.html |
| 11:00.20 | jblack | No, I haven't seen that |
| 11:00.21 | k-man | how do you include contexts in another context? |
| 11:00.31 | C4colo | do you have hardware zap timer sources on both boxes? |
| 11:00.32 | jblack | 1.2.27? Wow |
| 11:00.41 | k-man | err... so i can define inboun, and outbound and then include inbound and outbound in an allcalls context or something/ |
| 11:00.51 | C4colo | k-man: include => othercontext |
| 11:01.18 | C4colo | see lines 11 and 12 of the pastebin jblack made you |
| 11:01.30 | jblack | that was for mchou, actually |
| 11:01.36 | k-man | oh |
| 11:01.36 | C4colo | oh yea |
| 11:01.38 | jblack | but yeah, it would apply |
| 11:01.40 | C4colo | I don't pay attention to those things |
| 11:01.42 | k-man | i didn't see jblacks pastebin |
| 11:01.48 | C4colo | http://pastebin.com/m72f87638 |
| 11:02.02 | C4colo | nevermind, you are off the hook this time, but there is always google to yell at you about |
| 11:02.04 | k-man | thanks, checking it now |
| 11:02.13 | jblack | I'm not feeling very patient right now. |
| 11:02.29 | C4colo | damn, more than I apparently ... you wrote that dialplan |
| 11:03.04 | jblack | Oh, I'm plenty patient with good problems, good solutions, and well thought out questions. |
| 11:03.12 | C4colo | impatient but still helpful |
| 11:03.13 | jblack | It's lazy stuff I'm impatient with. |
| 11:03.16 | C4colo | ah |
| 11:03.22 | C4colo | well i'm good at lazy |
| 11:03.33 | C4colo | myself, not other people's lazyness |
| 11:03.40 | C4colo | I'm a hypocrite when it comes to that |
| 11:03.59 | C4colo | "quit being lazy so I don't have to work as hard" |
| 11:04.06 | C4colo | that's my motto |
| 11:04.16 | jblack | My patience for slop is inversely related to my sleep, which is directly related to my productivity. |
| 11:04.37 | C4colo | hmm... let me fire up latex and form that into an equation |
| 11:05.23 | jblack | slop tolerance = 1/ sleep deprivation ; sleep deprivation = productivity. |
| 11:05.39 | jblack | I'm sure it all works out algebraically. |
| 11:06.16 | C4colo | you are more productive the longer you are deprived of sleep? |
| 11:07.39 | C4colo | wait, the way you stated it the first time said that the amount of sleep you had was related to productivity |
| 11:08.24 | C4colo | Function Productivity { Level of productiveness - (hours since last slept) } |
| 11:08.31 | Sweeper | asdf |
| 11:08.37 | jblack | That's incorrect. |
| 11:08.50 | Sweeper | well, ddwrt on the router didn't solve it :? |
| 11:08.52 | Sweeper | :/ |
| 11:08.53 | jblack | Until I hit the exaustion wall, I get progressively more productive as I become more tired |
| 11:09.16 | C4colo | Sweeper: they probably blocked you because of excessive outbound connections on port 5060... you running a callcenter from your basement? |
| 11:09.43 | jblack | If you really think they are, and you can prove it, file a complaint with the FCC. |
| 11:09.43 | C4colo | YOU ARE THE GUY DOING THOSE HORRIBLE "This is your final notice that the warranty on your vehicle is about to expire" CALLS! |
| 11:09.45 | mchou | jblack: in that example you gave earlier, is there a way to do the same based on the registered username defined for each handset in sip.conf? |
| 11:10.14 | jblack | mchou: Just add 'context=blah' for each account in sip.conf. |
| 11:10.16 | mchou | C4colo: dude, that's the whole reason I'm setting up asterisk. I kid you not |
| 11:10.33 | C4colo | to counter-attack them? |
| 11:10.36 | jblack | You don't want to try and put the logic in the dialplan. Just trust me. |
| 11:10.40 | C4colo | track the bastards down? |
| 11:10.52 | mchou | C4colo: no to filter out telemarketers |
| 11:10.54 | C4colo | or to generate more SPIT for us to deal with? |
| 11:10.56 | *** join/#asterisk mvanbaak (n=michiel@vanbaak.xs4all.nl) |
| 11:11.04 | C4colo | ah |
| 11:11.09 | C4colo | well, nevermind then |
| 11:11.28 | mchou | they call me about once every hour |
| 11:11.41 | mchou | I kid you not |
| 11:11.42 | jblack | mchou: Start every call off with "This number is on the do-not-call list and may be recorded" |
| 11:11.43 | C4colo | I was going to share the research I have regarding their DID provider, the fact that they are spoofing CID based on the ANI information at the insertion point into the SS7 nework ... etc |
| 11:12.14 | mchou | jblack: does that really achieve anything? |
| 11:12.39 | jblack | sure. You get to record the call, and when they hawk their stuff, you have proof that you can send to the FCC for Big Fining Fun. |
| 11:12.43 | mchou | jblack: would it really scare the bejesus out of them? |
| 11:12.50 | C4colo | yes, it achives two recorded messages talking to each other |
| 11:13.04 | jblack | "This call is recorded" scares the bejesus out of anyone at work. |
| 11:14.22 | C4colo | I usually start off when calling a customer service agent "I heard in the menu when I called that you may be recording the call. Are you ok with the call being recorded?" |
| 11:14.24 | jblack | For extra points, whitelist callerid for numbers you trust, like family, and don't record (and don't state you will) |
| 11:14.36 | jblack | c4colo: Heh. It's simpler than that. |
| 11:14.49 | jblack | I parse "this call may be recorded" as permission to record calls. ;) |
| 11:14.53 | C4colo | and they usually say something like "yea all our calls are recorded" but as far as I'm concerned I just got consent to record |
| 11:15.03 | C4colo | yea, I stopped telling them after a while |
| 11:15.22 | C4colo | I'm guessing that consent has been given by both parties for the call to be recorded |
| 11:15.41 | jblack | You always have your own consent. ANd if they say "this call may be recorded", they just gave it. =) |
| 11:15.42 | mchou | jblack: I dont get it. If you have blacklist dont you have whitelist by default? :) |
| 11:15.53 | jblack | mchou: No, no blacklist. Just whitelist. |
| 11:15.58 | C4colo | now, I have searched for precedent and even asked lawyers if that would stand in court, and got no solid answer |
| 11:16.01 | mchou | whitelist=!blacklist :) |
| 11:16.11 | jblack | Correct. |
| 11:16.37 | jblack | You record everything _but_ whitelisted numbers. Mom, dad, wife & girlfriend (especially girlfiend) |
| 11:16.52 | mchou | huh?? |
| 11:17.01 | mchou | you're a tad paranoid :) |
| 11:17.14 | mchou | girlfiend, I like it |
| 11:17.19 | C4colo | I have a line button on my Aastra that records everything |
| 11:17.36 | jblack | Trust me. Recording calls with your girlfriend when your wife is in the next room over is not a bright idea. |
| 11:17.38 | C4colo | I can call out on that or transfer calls to it to record |
| 11:17.45 | C4colo | LOL |
| 11:17.56 | C4colo | my wife doesn't know asterisk |
| 11:18.05 | C4colo | however my boss does, which can be both a blessing and a horrible pain in the ass |
| 11:18.13 | C4colo | well, boss/main client |
| 11:18.17 | C4colo | same difference |
| 11:18.33 | jblack | Fine, you want to gather proof to get you blued, screwed, and tattoed in court, thinking it'll never be found, be my guest. |
| 11:19.13 | C4colo | no I just don't record everything |
| 11:19.17 | C4colo | only specific calls |
| 11:19.29 | C4colo | I mean, I don't have a girlfriend |
| 11:19.38 | C4colo | ¬¬ |
| 11:19.41 | jblack | That's rather my point, he wants to record everything after answer if he doens't know who it is. That's what records the consent. |
| 11:20.09 | C4colo | who does? |
| 11:20.12 | C4colo | did I miss something? |
| 11:20.14 | mchou | me |
| 11:20.17 | C4colo | oh |
| 11:20.25 | mchou | against the marketers |
| 11:20.25 | C4colo | and these are all inbound calls? |
| 11:20.26 | jblack | rubs his temples. |
| 11:20.30 | mchou | yup |
| 11:20.35 | C4colo | ok then |
| 11:20.40 | C4colo | as long as you disclaim it |
| 11:20.48 | jblack | are you fucking retarded? |
| 11:20.52 | jblack | Scroll back |
| 11:20.59 | C4colo | however on a recorded message you may need to reiterate it |
| 11:21.06 | C4colo | wow |
| 11:21.17 | C4colo | no need to get upset, just clarifying a point |
| 11:21.25 | jblack | pardon. That wasn't appropriate. |
| 11:21.29 | mchou | jblack: who you calling retarded? :) |
| 11:21.33 | jblack | Not you. |
| 11:21.33 | C4colo | the first line of text was to refresh the concept in our minds |
| 11:21.50 | C4colo | and followed up with another line that expounds on the concept |
| 11:22.17 | jblack | our minds? Mchou and I understood the conversation fine. It was the guy that jumped into the middle of it without reading the context first, that wasn't. |
| 11:22.25 | C4colo | I was there |
| 11:22.29 | mchou | hehe |
| 11:22.39 | jblack | that takes us back to "are you fucking retarded" ? |
| 11:22.55 | C4colo | I had not realized that the statement previous was a statement of intention rather than a suggestion of possibility |
| 11:22.57 | jblack | :) |
| 11:23.21 | mchou | so SIT no longer works? |
| 11:23.35 | mchou | I mean against marketers |
| 11:24.10 | mchou | cause I was thing using Zapateller |
| 11:24.17 | mchou | thinking* |
| 11:25.00 | jblack | Oh, you that's just a sound, and I think it comes with sounds |
| 11:25.29 | jblack | Never mind. |
| 11:25.35 | mchou | I don't really even want to acknowledge they dialed into a "real" # |
| 11:26.07 | jblack | Know how I solved the telemarket problem? |
| 11:26.21 | jblack | I changed my phone number, and I tell companies that I don't have a phone. |
| 11:26.24 | mchou | cause while you suggestion is a good one, they might just sell my numeber to some other org |
| 11:26.42 | jblack | sure, and that org should check the DNC too. And they'll also get fined. |
| 11:26.55 | jblack | If you're really getting a lot of calls, are you sure you're on the DNC? |
| 11:27.01 | mchou | yup |
| 11:27.11 | *** join/#asterisk C4colo (n=DJpyro@66.185.107.193) |
| 11:27.16 | mchou | I'm sure. triple checked |
| 11:27.19 | C4colo | damn are services lagged or something? |
| 11:27.27 | C4colo | took me forever to ghost and re-identify |
| 11:27.31 | mchou | these are crooks, scam artists |
| 11:27.36 | jblack | Then do what I said, and make a website with these calls, and make a million bucks in adversising. |
| 11:27.52 | mchou | jblack: it's already been done |
| 11:27.53 | C4colo | did I miss more beratement? |
| 11:28.03 | C4colo | I was starting to enjoy it |
| 11:28.05 | jblack | Nope. Want more? |
| 11:28.06 | mchou | jblack: 800notes.com |
| 11:28.12 | C4colo | heh yea, good resource |
| 11:28.27 | jblack | No, I mean, make them _fun_ . |
| 11:29.27 | jblack | And publish the actuall cal recordings, with you running them around in the funniest way you can. Do well, and you can quit your dayjob, and just answer the phone 2-3 times a day for a living. :) |
| 11:29.34 | mchou | what's really needed is to track these suckers down and do Da real DOS |
| 11:29.54 | jblack | murder of telemarketers is illegal in some states. |
| 11:29.57 | C4colo | you mean do a USAG |
| 11:30.05 | C4colo | and an FCC and FTC |
| 11:30.06 | mchou | jblack: nah, you'll never get paid going to small claims court |
| 11:30.20 | jblack | mchou: Small claims? |
| 11:30.27 | Sweeper | soooo retarded. |
| 11:30.30 | jblack | Let me restate. |
| 11:30.34 | mchou | cause while you'll win the judgement collection is much harder |
| 11:31.00 | Sweeper | just set up asterisk listening on port 7000 to proxy calls for him :v |
| 11:31.01 | C4colo | us attorney general, federal communications commision, and federal trade commision |
| 11:31.18 | mchou | nah, those ppl dont pay me :) |
| 11:31.28 | C4colo | all three have jurisdiction over interstate telephone calls specifically those in violation of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 |
| 11:31.39 | jblack | 1. Notify all calls are recorded and do so. 2. telemarketer doesn't hang up. 3. He starts pitching 4. You run him around in funny ways. Like, if he's selling waffles, ask if they're waterproof. 5. post it on your website. 6. Profit |
| 11:32.09 | C4colo | most of the modern outbound telemarketers hang up at the drop of a hat |
| 11:32.23 | jblack | Either way, he wins. |
| 11:32.25 | C4colo | I played along once and as soon as I said I have a 1986 Honda Civic he dropped the call |
| 11:32.38 | mchou | jblack: if it's really that lucrative I'll pay YOU to answer my phone :) |
| 11:32.45 | C4colo | no "sorry but we are looking for marks with newer cars" or "do you have another car" or anything |
| 11:32.47 | C4colo | just click |
| 11:33.12 | mchou | C4, you actually answered? |
| 11:33.17 | C4colo | mchou: make sure to ask them for a valid callback number or a mailing address |
| 11:33.34 | C4colo | yes I have been researching a specific bunch that are doing callerid spoofing and making false claims |
| 11:33.40 | mchou | C4colo: you know their frigging line |
| 11:33.48 | C4colo | well worse than that, they are spoofing the ANI which is much worse than just callerid |
| 11:33.58 | C4colo | Ihave a callback number for them that seems to work |
| 11:34.04 | mchou | C4colo: give us you CC # |
| 11:34.05 | C4colo | I reported it to the resporg |
| 11:34.21 | C4colo | no response |
| 11:34.42 | Sweeper | hmm. I've got a successful sp registration but asterisk cli shows nothing when I call the number. gah |
| 11:34.43 | mchou | "we don't give out our contact info unless you give us your cc #" |
| 11:34.55 | Sweeper | stupid crappy termination provider that gives no logs :v |
| 11:35.05 | mchou | C4colo: damn crooks |
| 11:35.23 | C4colo | ok you are missing something here ... they MUST give out either a valid telephone number OR a mailing address upon request |
| 11:35.44 | C4colo | if they refuse they are in violation and your recording becomes evidence to that fact |
| 11:35.46 | mchou | C4colo: that's when they put out the CC# line |
| 11:35.56 | mchou | and then they hang up :) |
| 11:36.09 | C4colo | you do not have to be a customer, only the recepient of the call to get that information |
| 11:36.19 | mchou | yeas, I understand. |
| 11:36.25 | jblack | THey're selling you something. if you know what they're selling, that's enough. |
| 11:36.38 | C4colo | now, if they are spoofing the ANI information and are in violation of the TCA of 1996 then you have a case |
| 11:36.39 | mchou | but w/o legit contact info it's hard to go after them |
| 11:36.40 | jblack | Lead 'em on until you know exactly what. |
| 11:36.51 | C4colo | I work for a CLEC |
| 11:36.59 | C4colo | I have access to the SS7 router |
| 11:37.11 | mchou | C4colo: yeah, but I dont |
| 11:37.16 | C4colo | I can do traces on the calls coming in and find the switch from which their calls hit the SS7 network |
| 11:37.31 | C4colo | which is why I'm looking for people like you to help me out |
| 11:37.43 | mchou | sure, I'll help you out. |
| 11:37.44 | Sweeper | ...he just needs your cc to get started |
| 11:37.49 | mchou | gimme the procedure |
| 11:37.50 | jblack | and a warrent |
| 11:37.51 | C4colo | lol |
| 11:38.01 | C4colo | ok, so here is what I'm thinking ... |
| 11:38.14 | C4colo | I have access to about 9,000 DIDs |
| 11:38.27 | C4colo | unused |
| 11:38.31 | C4colo | sitting in a pool |
| 11:38.41 | mchou | legitimate? no illegal? |
| 11:38.42 | C4colo | there are millions of numbers sitting around in CLEC's pools, unallocated |
| 11:38.59 | mchou | just making sure it's on the up and up |
| 11:39.02 | C4colo | right, they are to be issued to customers, but while they are sitting there they get hundreds of telemarketing calls going to fast busy |
| 11:39.42 | C4colo | however if those numbers were pointed at a server where people had softphones registered and could talk to these guys and get them to make false statements and such ... |
| 11:39.43 | k-man | what is exntensions.ael? |
| 11:39.46 | k-man | do i need that? |
| 11:40.02 | C4colo | not unless you want to write your dialplan in Asterisk Extension Language |
| 11:40.13 | Sweeper | C4colo: dude, that would be awsome |
| 11:40.17 | k-man | C4colo, i don't think i want to do that do i? |
| 11:40.18 | Sweeper | telemarketerbaiting.com |
| 11:40.22 | Sweeper | record everything |
| 11:40.25 | C4colo | these calls would be traced on the SS7 network and we would get their actual information |
| 11:40.28 | Sweeper | have people submit funny ones |
| 11:40.31 | Sweeper | and also pwn them |
| 11:40.42 | k-man | have you heard the telecrapper2000? |
| 11:40.42 | mchou | C4colo: how long would a trace take? |
| 11:40.45 | C4colo | we woudl have a site they would use to "tag" the calls |
| 11:40.59 | C4colo | before the phone rings the info is already in the logs |
| 11:41.26 | jblack | your reverse is all screwy c4colo. |
| 11:41.38 | C4colo | rdns? |
| 11:41.46 | jblack | yup. |
| 11:41.49 | C4colo | cool |
| 11:41.53 | C4colo | I like it that way |
| 11:42.03 | C4colo | and by the way, the intelligent office is an old SWIP on the subnet |
| 11:42.15 | C4colo | not related to my company at all, hasn't been updated since 2003 |
| 11:42.35 | Sweeper | C4colo: you could get badjillions of people doing that really easily if you set it up |
| 11:42.53 | k-man | what files do i need for a sip system to work in /etc/asterisk.conf? (its currently full of crap from the distro install |
| 11:43.05 | C4colo | plus, CLECs can bill the ILECs for terminating inbound calls |
| 11:43.31 | jblack | actually, comes across as 'gateway.ptmm.net'. The website for the domain, which isn't really working, claims "precision draperies education" |
| 11:43.31 | Sweeper | so you make money off the site's ads, you make money off of the termination.... |
| 11:43.40 | mchou | ahh, there's the rub |
| 11:43.44 | C4colo | we get CLECs to work with us for two reasons, 1) their customers complain about telemarketing, they can say they are doing something about it ... 2) they make money off of the inbound calls |
| 11:43.49 | mchou | no cc required! :) |
| 11:44.16 | C4colo | that's a customer's site |
| 11:44.30 | C4colo | haven't set up a site to catch :80 on that ip |
| 11:44.33 | Sweeper | imagine the churn among telemarketer emplyees :D |
| 11:44.54 | jblack | something is catching port 80. I'm getting enough packets for a title. |
| 11:45.02 | mchou | Sweeper: you mean it wasnt cheaning already? |
| 11:45.08 | C4colo | there is no site on ptmm.net try ptmm.com |
| 11:45.22 | Sweeper | mchou: worse than usual! |
| 11:46.04 | Sweeper | jblack: a whois on the ip might be more informative, if he's really a clec his compan probably owns the whole block :) |
| 11:46.17 | mchou | Sweeper: I don't think you realize the scammers dont really give a shit |
| 11:46.24 | jblack | Like I said. i'm getting enough off of ptmm.net off of port 80, that mozilla is pulling a title. It looks like something is letting a few packets through, then dropping packets. |
| 11:46.45 | mchou | Sweeper: other than running up their phone bills :) |
| 11:46.49 | Sweeper | mchou: they still have to orient employees tho |
| 11:46.53 | jblack | I'm just letting you know in case you care |
| 11:47.24 | C4colo | yea, not sure why that site is having problems |
| 11:47.31 | mchou | Sweeper: no, I meant the call center ppl are just happy enough doing wghat they do |
| 11:47.32 | C4colo | as far as I know it is not being used |
| 11:47.40 | C4colo | I fixed it, should be 403 unauthorized |
| 11:47.47 | C4colo | or 403 forbidden rather |
| 11:48.16 | Sweeper | mchou: eh? maybe now. what if every other call you made was someone that would try to bait you and make you a public spectacle? :P |
| 11:48.22 | jblack | yup. 403 now. IIS? |
| 11:48.31 | C4colo | for now |
| 11:48.44 | C4colo | that server is migrating to a xen server in a datacenter |
| 11:48.52 | C4colo | only ones left are ones with aspx |
| 11:48.53 | mchou | Sweeper: they dont really give a damn. They can say their employees screwed up. |
| 11:49.14 | Sweeper | mchou: no, I mean the actual employees |
| 11:49.18 | jblack | mchou: Ok, we get it. You like the calls, and don't care to go through efforts to get rid of them. |
| 11:49.19 | Sweeper | the people makng the calls |
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| 11:49.46 | mchou | actual employees are anonymous. fake names |
| 11:50.07 | Sweeper | mchou: they're still people :P nobody likes constant abuse |
| 11:50.26 | C4colo | I think a directed effort to catching and collecting usable information for prosecution of criminal telemarketers would do wonders for the number of calls |
| 11:50.33 | mchou | jblack: I'm just stating some facts that seem not so obvious to Sweeper |
| 11:50.56 | C4colo | now here is a legal question: is this entrapment? |
| 11:51.05 | mchou | lol |
| 11:51.08 | Sweeper | mmmm |
| 11:51.10 | C4colo | are honeypots on the internet entrapment? |
| 11:51.24 | Sweeper | honeypots are run by the feds |
| 11:51.29 | Sweeper | makes it legal enough for me \o |
| 11:51.29 | mchou | it;s not entrapment unless you asked them to call you in the first place |
| 11:51.30 | C4colo | then yes |
| 11:51.41 | C4colo | oh good point |
| 11:51.55 | Sweeper | yea, I guess that applies to honeypots in general |
| 11:52.05 | mchou | giving out DIDs (by itself) doesnt constitute entrapment |
| 11:52.58 | C4colo | also think of this .. .we use low-cost methods for terminating the calls... however those calls would normally fail, resulting in no cost to the telemarketers, what if thousands of calls were suddenly terminated and they had to pay for the termination, and the employees time talking to people, etc? |
| 11:53.11 | SDR_ | hi all i got two PRI lines connected to two Quintum proxies going to oh323 channel in my asterisk setp .. the problem i'm not geting dmfs from one of the lines i was thinking of modifying userInputMode but i'cant fugure how to separete configs for different quintums |
| 11:53.40 | C4colo | what is a quintum? |
| 11:53.48 | C4colo | oh proxies |
| 11:53.56 | SDR_ | pri to oh323 proxy i belive |
| 11:54.19 | C4colo | put them in different contexts |
| 11:54.27 | C4colo | or set it in sip.conf for their peer details |
| 11:54.35 | C4colo | yea, that's better |
| 11:54.48 | C4colo | wake me up when I can remember what I'm talking about |
| 11:55.16 | C4colo | check the settings and make sure they are using the same DTMF mode |
| 11:55.26 | SDR_ | how do i set different config file for direrent peer? i've been searching www.voip-info.org/wiki for hours |
| 11:55.28 | C4colo | auto is always a good option on the sip.conf side of things |
| 11:56.00 | C4colo | in sip.conf you have a peer set for [quintium1] and another for [quintium2] right? |
| 11:56.04 | SDR_ | sip? i think oh323 is in oh323.conf - i'm completly lost |
| 11:56.14 | C4colo | just set dtmfmode=auto on one and dtmfmode=rfc2833 on the other |
| 11:56.17 | C4colo | oh yea |
| 11:56.18 | mchou | I'm so disappointed * doesnt allow multiple registrations to one acct |
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| 11:56.34 | mchou | in fact, it's downright lame |
| 11:56.39 | C4colo | well not really |
| 11:56.45 | C4colo | which device would it send the call to? |
| 11:56.50 | mchou | all |
| 11:56.56 | mchou | all devices ring |
| 11:56.58 | C4colo | set two registrations and handle them identically in the dialplan |
| 11:57.22 | mchou | first answered silences all the others |
| 11:57.26 | C4colo | user1 user2 user3 etc and then Dial(SIP/user1,SIP/user2,SIP/user3,60) |
| 11:57.38 | C4colo | called a ring group |
| 11:58.02 | mchou | C4colo: you're missing the point. that's admin overhead |
| 11:58.16 | SDR_ | which is the best documentation source for asterisk? www.voip-info.org/wiki is total mess to me |
| 11:58.19 | mchou | changing the dial plan |
| 11:58.28 | C4colo | how does extension 110, device 1 call extension 110 device 2? |
| 11:59.23 | mchou | C4colo: why would it ever need to? it's registered to the same person |
| 11:59.29 | C4colo | I never actually considered that would be viable functionality |
| 11:59.36 | C4colo | you want device and user mode |
| 11:59.44 | C4colo | or something like that |
| 11:59.57 | mchou | C4colo: seriously. You have hard phone at home. |
| 12:00.09 | C4colo | you register the devices using individual accounts and then let users log into them from one or many devices |
| 12:00.15 | mchou | You go traveling with your lappy or wifi phone |
| 12:00.19 | C4colo | at least 4 |
| 12:00.21 | C4colo | and yes |
| 12:00.38 | mchou | some calls you. all 4 phones ring |
| 12:00.40 | C4colo | again, that is called device and user mode |
| 12:00.48 | mchou | OK |
| 12:00.49 | C4colo | log in as a user into 1 or 2 or 20 devices |
| 12:00.58 | mchou | yup, exactly |
| 12:01.10 | mchou | instant follow me |
| 12:01.16 | mchou | no admin overhead |
| 12:01.22 | C4colo | you just sit down at the phone and punch up the login, tell the system you are now at that desk |
| 12:01.25 | mchou | what's not to like? |
| 12:01.38 | C4colo | you can set it to autologout any other instances or you can allow multiple logins at multiple devices |
| 12:01.47 | C4colo | it is built into asterisk |
| 12:01.57 | mchou | really? |
| 12:02.04 | mchou | how to expose it? |
| 12:02.16 | mchou | I havent seen docs on this |
| 12:02.33 | mchou | again, same user credentials now |
| 12:02.34 | C4colo | I'm looking it up now |
| 12:02.38 | Sweeper | tell me you're not referring to call queues.... |
| 12:02.47 | C4colo | heh, no |
| 12:02.58 | C4colo | you can even set autocreatepeer=yes |
| 12:03.05 | C4colo | and asterisk will create peers for any devices registering |
| 12:03.11 | Sweeper | because that's the only thing I know of built into asterisk that offers login/logout |
| 12:03.25 | C4colo | on a controlled network this can work to facilitate the creation of registrations for each device automaticall y |
| 12:03.34 | C4colo | then each user has a login |
| 12:03.40 | mchou | C4colo: linky pls? |
| 12:03.51 | C4colo | they sit down at a device that was automatically registered to the system, punch in their login and it is now their extension |
| 12:03.56 | C4colo | still finding a good writeup |
| 12:04.05 | Sweeper | yea that still sounds like call queues |
| 12:04.36 | Sweeper | imagine..a queue for every user... |
| 12:04.38 | mchou | I dont know how ekiga.net does this |
| 12:04.40 | Sweeper | GENIOUS |
| 12:04.47 | mchou | thought they use * |
| 12:05.13 | mchou | but they allow multiole concurrent registrations..... |
| 12:05.22 | mchou | multiple* |
| 12:05.34 | mchou | and it all works just great |
| 12:06.00 | Sweeper | mchou: don't need to do anything for that |
| 12:06.28 | Sweeper | just set up a single entry in sip.conf and have multiple clients/devices with the same auth info |
| 12:06.34 | Sweeper | all phones ring |
| 12:07.20 | mchou | Sweeper: need to see an example |
| 12:07.33 | mchou | Sweeper: dunno what you mean |
| 12:08.02 | Sweeper | just...do it |
| 12:08.11 | Sweeper | normal sip.conf entry for a regular phone |
| 12:08.23 | Sweeper | set 5 phones up with the auth info for that entry |
| 12:08.35 | mchou | 1000-1010, same credentials.... |
| 12:08.54 | Sweeper | no... |
| 12:09.00 | Sweeper | a single extension |
| 12:09.27 | mchou | huh?? |
| 12:09.59 | mchou | have you been participating in this conversation? |
| 12:10.08 | C4colo | who me? |
| 12:10.21 | mchou | no, Sweeper |
| 12:10.43 | C4colo | ok, freepbx calls it "device and user mode" however the concept is valid for asterisk |
| 12:10.51 | mchou | * doesnt allow multiple concurrent registration with same credentials |
| 12:11.07 | mchou | Sweeper: ^^^ |
| 12:11.27 | Sweeper | uh... |
| 12:11.39 | mchou | C4colo: how the hell does freepbx do it? |
| 12:12.06 | mchou | Sweeper: go ahead and try it |
| 12:12.21 | mchou | Sweeper: only the last registration "works" |
| 12:12.27 | Sweeper | as we speak.... |
| 12:12.36 | C4colo | shit I hope they don't use queues |
| 12:12.48 | C4colo | that would be a bungled mess of crap |
| 12:13.00 | Sweeper | I doubt it |
| 12:13.03 | C4colo | I"ll have to tear into either freepbx's code or a freepbx developer |
| 12:13.07 | C4colo | lol |
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| 12:42.18 | l0verb0y | hey hows it going |
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| 12:46.25 | zippytech2 | ny one know why i get this , i have to boxes that both started doing this TRUNK Dial failed due to CHANUNAVAIL |
| 12:47.08 | zippytech2 | tdm400 |
| 12:47.35 | C4colo | updated changed fixed remove modified or othewise bent spindled or mutilated anything on it? |
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| 12:50.59 | zippytech2 | only just installed a new phone line |
| 12:52.09 | zippytech2 | in fact if i use the line to dial up the the internet then make a call i hear the modem |
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| 12:55.11 | C4colo | installed a new phone line unrelated to asterisk? |
| 13:02.28 | zippytech2 | it sort if acts like asterisk thinks there is no dial tone |
| 13:03.26 | zippytech2 | if i have the line in use and try to call asterisk does not report chanunavail |
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| 13:14.58 | C4colo | everytime I come in here there is some angryuser with a problem |
| 13:18.23 | angryuser | stay C4away ;) |
| 13:18.49 | C4colo | lol |
| 13:19.12 | tzafrir_laptop | angryuser, wait for you to present the problem? |
| 13:19.43 | angryuser | i am trying to find one, but all is fine |
| 13:19.58 | C4colo | so you are just angry in general? |
| 13:20.13 | angryuser | yes constantly |
| 13:20.26 | C4colo | I'm no longer angy at ViaTalk |
| 13:20.30 | C4colo | angry rather |
| 13:20.39 | angryuser | most time at users |
| 13:20.40 | C4colo | s/angy/angry/ |
| 13:20.54 | C4colo | hmm. seems the bot doesn't like me |
| 13:21.06 | C4colo | unless it does the last thing I said |
| 13:21.19 | C4colo | s/said/sent to the channel/ |
| 13:21.26 | C4colo | ah, yes, I see now |
| 13:22.11 | angryuser | who hot ipod touc here ? |
| 13:22.14 | C4colo | my number was finally ported away from them after 15 months of DTMF issues, channels dropping, etc |
| 13:22.17 | angryuser | touch |
| 13:22.21 | C4colo | hot? |
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| 13:23.47 | C4colo | 15 months I tried to work with them, but the whole time it was "a problem with my cofiguration" and "they don't really support asterisk" they just "offer it as an advaced option" and "require the customer to configure it properly" |
| 13:24.11 | C4colo | yea, their inbound proxies had issues with DTMF settings, duplicated across the board... every viatalk customer I could find had issues |
| 13:24.44 | C4colo | damn, I can't even mention them casually without going into a tirade |
| 13:27.21 | angryuser | why waiting 15 m , i would change in 2 weeks |
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| 14:01.11 | The-Bat | Hie |
| 14:01.14 | The-Bat | finding difficulty in using chanspy, can chanspy() be used in queues.conf |
| 14:02.47 | bminish | ~centos52bug |
| 14:02.48 | jbot | [~centos52bug] There is a bug compiling Zaptel up to 1.4.11/1.2.26 on CentOS/RHEL 5.2: error in xpp/xdefs.h. Workaround: uncheck "xpp" (Astribank) driver in menuselect. Fixed in SVN. Patches: http://bugs.digium.com/12889 |
| 14:04.18 | russellb | The-Bat: you can use ChanSpy with queues, but queues.conf has nothing to do with it |
| 14:04.30 | russellb | The-Bat: you simply set up ChanSpy as an extension in the dialplan, extensions.conf |
| 14:06.08 | The-Bat | i actually wanted to spy the agents in a specific queue, and am not able to get it n ${SPYGROUP} |
| 14:09.27 | bminish | I have a weird one with calls failing to be setup when going from the Queue to the SIP extension. some pastebin here http://pastebin.com/m7907558b |
| 14:09.49 | bminish | issue only happens on about 1 call in 30 |
| 14:15.54 | Katty | herro. |
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| 14:24.09 | cod3hax0r | is anyone running asterisk on openvz |
| 14:24.26 | C4colo | yes, many people are |
| 14:24.30 | C4colo | I don't anymore |
| 14:24.37 | C4colo | you need zap to work? |
| 14:24.49 | C4colo | talk to your hosting provider, they have to install it on the host OS |
| 14:25.28 | cod3hax0r | zap and ztdummy are loaded in the HN |
| 14:26.01 | cod3hax0r | but i get an unable to open pseudo device on the container i installed asterisk |
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| 14:53.04 | cod3hax0r | ? |
| 14:54.02 | C4colo | you must have zaptel installed on the host OS |
| 14:54.12 | C4colo | no workaround or other method of getting zap to work in the containers |
| 14:54.29 | C4colo | ztdummy will not run without it |
| 14:55.59 | tzafrir_laptop | C4colo, why do you have to run zaptel on the host? |
| 14:56.11 | tzafrir_laptop | you have to create the device files on the host |
| 14:56.30 | tzafrir_laptop | And it is probably a good idea to use static files rather than udev |
| 14:56.53 | tzafrir_laptop | Other than that I don't think zaptel should cause any problems |
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| 15:01.25 | cod3hax0r | i already have installed zap and ztdummy and loaded them on the host node |
| 15:01.52 | cod3hax0r | the problem is i get an error when creating a meetme conference in the container it says "Unable to access pseudo device" |
| 15:03.17 | tzafrir_laptop | ls -l /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 15:03.42 | tzafrir_laptop | also: what happens when you run zttest |
| 15:03.44 | tzafrir_laptop | ? |
| 15:03.56 | tzafrir_laptop | does it print anything? gives an error? |
| 15:07.59 | cod3hax0r | crwxrwxrwx 1 asterisk root 196, 255 Jul 31 17:02 /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 15:08.15 | cod3hax0r | i get a command not found when doing zttest |
| 15:08.29 | cod3hax0r | since i did not have zaptel compiled on the container |
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| 15:13.42 | tzafrir_laptop | cod3hax0r, head -c 0 /dev/zap/pseudo |
| 15:14.11 | bminish | what would cause asterisk to fail to bring up te bridge occasionally, sets up the rest of the call ok but fails to bring up the bridge |
| 15:16.27 | cod3hax0r | i get none when i ran the command |
| 15:16.34 | cod3hax0r | no output |
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| 15:32.24 | cod3hax0r | ? |
| 15:36.07 | drako | im having big problems with this error at loading ztdummy |
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| 15:36.09 | drako | kernel: rtc: lost some interrupts at 1024Hz. |
| 15:38.41 | [TK]D-Fender | drako: Your kernel must be compiled with a 1000hz timer, not 1024hz |
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| 15:42.14 | cod3hax0r | is it necessary to have a kernel with a 1000 mhz timing to get better results with ztdummy |
| 15:42.57 | drako | [TK]D-Fender, but the options i only have till 1000 |
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| 15:43.55 | [TK]D-Fender | drako: It seems to be telling you that its already at 1024 and not the 1000 it needs to be |
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| 15:44.25 | [TK]D-Fender | cod3hax0r: yes |
| 15:44.38 | drako | [TK]D-Fender, then the solution is? |
| 15:44.55 | drako | last message repeated 3046 times |
| 15:44.55 | [TK]D-Fender | drako: recompile your kernel with the proper setting |
| 15:45.09 | drako | [TK]D-Fender, good, but whats the proper setting? thats the real question |
| 15:45.17 | [TK]D-Fender | 1000 <------- |
| 15:46.16 | [TK]D-Fender | LeddyHM: Just dial them AFTER your first dial exits for not being answered. |
| 15:48.26 | drako | [TK]D-Fender, ok |
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| 15:52.08 | jameswf-home | this should be adaped to asterisk with paging..... pizza is ... http://random.noflashlight.com/ |
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| 15:53.47 | jameswf-home | maybe to an aastea script.... |
| 15:53.52 | jameswf-home | *aastra |
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| 16:15.58 | ManxPower | waves to everyone. |
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| 16:17.07 | ManxPower | I spent the last two days at an actual hippie commune. I never knew how much I loved modern things like flush toilets and hot water (they did have a wood burning hot water heater) |
| 16:17.17 | Qwell | O.o |
| 16:18.02 | ManxPower | I was actually told "septic tanks poison the earth". |
| 16:18.13 | coppice | true vintage hippies value flush toilets |
| 16:18.14 | russellb | so what was the alternative? |
| 16:18.29 | ManxPower | russellb: an outhouse. |
| 16:18.40 | russellb | huh. |
| 16:18.48 | ManxPower | which in MY eyes is not all that much different from the "poisoning the earth" point of view. |
| 16:18.53 | russellb | right. |
| 16:19.07 | coppice | actually. a properly run septic tank is a very eco friendly thing. of course,not all are properly run |
| 16:19.22 | ManxPower | I was scouting for places to move to. I left two days early as they were totally unsuitable for my goal. |
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| 16:19.48 | ManxPower | coppice: oh, I agree. |
| 16:20.27 | ManxPower | Ah, you want to know what is so ironic? They have DSL. |
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| 16:20.55 | ManxPower | They don't even have POWER LINES. What limited electric they have is provided by a solar cell and batteries. |
| 16:21.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Batteries are made up of dangerous acids that kill the earth. HYPOCRITS! |
| 16:21.57 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: oh, you should have heard one of them when I said that I wanted grid power for an air conditioner. |
| 16:22.31 | ManxPower | He looked at me like I advocated powering my AC with dead kittens |
| 16:23.09 | tzafrir_laptop | ManxPower, and what's wrong with that? Isn't it useful recycling? |
| 16:23.23 | tzafrir_laptop | (as opposed to using live kittens) |
| 16:23.42 | ManxPower | I any case, I spent yesterday afternoon with a group that split off 15 years ago. They are much closer to what I'm looking for. |
| 16:23.53 | ManxPower | tzafrir_laptop: you kill the live kittens first of course! |
| 16:23.56 | coppice | live kittens are just as renewable a resource as dead ones |
| 16:24.09 | ManxPower | You won't want to hear their crys of terror. |
| 16:24.10 | tzanger | reminds me of the joke about the cat skin farm that had a rat farm beside it |
| 16:24.24 | tzanger | cats eat rats and grow, skin cats and feed dead cats to rats |
| 16:25.09 | coppice | that kind of thing caused mad cow disease. you'd end up with bloody furious rat disease |
| 16:25.25 | tzafrir_laptop | well, maybe you can use live kittens. Or something similar. Check US patent 6617825 |
| 16:25.26 | ManxPower | What I wonder is why you would want to farm either cats or rats. |
| 16:25.40 | tzanger | I thought it was the feeding of cow brain matter to cattle that caused mad cow disease |
| 16:26.03 | tzanger | same with the other prion diseases... it involved eating the brain matter of your own kind |
| 16:26.54 | ManxPower | I don't have much (if any) depth perception. The one lane mountain roads (used to be logging roads) are so narrow you have to back up to a wide spot in the road and there are not many of those. almost sheer drop off one side of the road. |
| 16:27.20 | coppice | well a food cycle of two animals eating eat other is pretty close to a cycle of one |
| 16:27.31 | ManxPower | tzanger: For some reason I thought there is evidence prions can move between species. |
| 16:31.18 | coppice | I think its no mere coincidence that mad cow disease first appeared when Margaret Thtcher was in power |
| 16:32.03 | ManxPower | She legalized cow cannibalism, didn't she? |
| 16:32.19 | coppice | she was the original mad cow |
| 16:33.48 | coppice | the joke in the UK at that time was that the government took ages to response to the mad cow disease problem, because they thought all talk of mad cow disease was just people hurling insults at Thatcher |
| 16:35.07 | ManxPower | We're here! We're Bovine! Get used to it! |
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| 16:35.53 | l0verb0y | hey there |
| 16:41.08 | tzafrir_laptop | hey here |
| 16:41.47 | coppice | hay stacks |
| 16:42.47 | tzafrir_laptop | awfully quiet here |
| 16:43.09 | [TK]D-Fender | *crickets* |
| 16:43.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Its the weekend.... and more &^#$ RAIN. |
| 16:43.33 | l0verb0y | question for you guys |
| 16:43.38 | [TK]D-Fender | 42 |
| 16:43.48 | [TK]D-Fender | NEXT!@@!@ (c) BKW |
| 16:43.50 | coppice | its monday already |
| 16:44.03 | l0verb0y | i am trying to do some load balancing and having some issues |
| 16:44.25 | l0verb0y | are there any good tutorials? |
| 16:44.30 | [TK]D-Fender | l0verb0y: 2oz to the left |
| 16:44.50 | [TK]D-Fender | l0verb0y: perhaps you could actually describe your problem. |
| 16:45.19 | l0verb0y | I have a predictive dialer and 3 asterisk servers and I need to dial with all 3 servers |
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| 16:47.42 | coppice | how predictable |
| 16:56.01 | drako | [TK]D-Fender, i setted the clock in the kernel to 1000 and i still get the message |
| 16:56.26 | [TK]D-Fender | drako: May have to recompile Zaptel. Unsure on this one |
| 16:57.26 | drako | recompiling |
| 16:57.50 | drako | [TK]D-Fender, negative :S |
| 16:58.00 | [TK]D-Fender | drako: Ok, out of advise for the moment |
| 16:58.02 | drako | how i make sure my kernel is set up to 1000mhz ? |
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| 16:59.44 | [TK]D-Fender | drako: probably visible through dmesg |
| 16:59.55 | [TK]D-Fender | drako: You have rebooted it of course... right? |
| 17:00.04 | drako | yes |
| 17:00.48 | dr_gogeta86 | hi to all |
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| 17:50.46 | Paige | good morning |
| 17:51.05 | Paige | this may not be the right place to ask but i am taking a stab in the dark here |
| 17:51.41 | Paige | anyone know where i can find the ring tone generator for Linksys/Cisco SPA941 phones? |
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| 18:28.35 | tzafrir_laptop | quiet ........................ |
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| 18:28.46 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o bkruse] by ChanServ |
| 18:30.04 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: too quiet |
| 18:30.14 | Qwell | I have a feeling the users are planning a revolt |
| 18:30.42 | tzafrir_laptop | Luckily we have you |
| 18:31.09 | Katty | revolts. |
| 18:31.38 | drmessano | I'm working on forking asterisk |
| 18:31.47 | drmessano | Removing all the SIP code |
| 18:31.56 | drmessano | Gonna call it "IAX the Clown" |
| 18:32.32 | drmessano | So far I have an awesome splash screen with Tux dressed up like a member of Insane Clown Posse |
| 18:32.33 | tzafrir_laptop | hey, but you'll still keep chan_skinny, right? |
| 18:32.37 | drmessano | Nothing more :( |
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| 18:32.47 | tzafrir_laptop | a skinny clown? |
| 18:32.58 | drmessano | tzafrir_laptop: Of course, must support Cisco |
| 18:34.42 | drmessano | Im thinking of renaming Chan_skinny to chan_CCCP |
| 18:34.49 | drmessano | "Greetings, Comrade" |
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| 18:41.10 | baliktad | How do I set my dialplan to handle optional star codes, so I can take dynamic action based on what digits the user dials before the number? |
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| 18:41.40 | baliktad | Right now all of my exten => entries just handle NANPA dialing _1NXXNXXXXXX |
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| 18:47.47 | [TK]D-Fender | baliktad: make a pattern that includes the *. |
| 18:49.39 | baliktad | I already have a bunch of complex handling for regular 10 digit numbers that I want to preserve |
| 18:49.53 | baliktad | I just want to somehow add optional steps when the user dials *XX first |
| 18:50.02 | baliktad | I'm not sure the best way to do that |
| 18:50.17 | [TK]D-Fender | blathen go MAKE a patter to match that * code you want them to dial first |
| 18:51.25 | ManxPower | exten => _*XX1NXXNXXXXXX,1,Do whatever, then exten => _*XX1NXXNXXXXXX,n,Goto(${EXTEN:3},1) |
| 18:52.00 | baliktad | ahhh |
| 18:52.03 | baliktad | that's what I couldn't figure out |
| 18:52.22 | baliktad | how to pass the original number through to the rest of my dialplan |
| 18:53.40 | ManxPower | A well designed dialplan will use that technique fairly often. |
| 18:56.51 | [TK]D-Fender | baliktad: Set a variable to it before jumping. |
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| 19:11.18 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody here builds asterisk in a git, bzr, svk or whatever repository? |
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| 19:14.33 | baliktad | hmm ok what's the right way to test if a variable is null |
| 19:16.02 | florz | baliktad: what do you mean by that? |
| 19:16.51 | baliktad | exten => _1NXXNXXXXXX,n,Set(OUTGOING_TRUNK=${IF($[${OVERRIDE_TRUNK}!= ]?${OVERRIDE_TRUNK}:${CHEAPEST_TRUNK})}) |
| 19:17.31 | baliktad | I want to test if override trunk is set, and use that value if so |
| 19:18.07 | florz | you can't do that in the dialplan |
| 19:18.24 | baliktad | uhm why not |
| 19:18.32 | florz | because |
| 19:18.51 | florz | the closest you can get is to check for an empty string - unset variables, too, evaluate to an empty string |
| 19:19.37 | baliktad | so $[${OVERRIDE_TRUNK}!=""] |
| 19:19.51 | florz | $["${OVERRIDE_TRUNK}"!=""] |
| 19:19.55 | [TK]D-Fender | baliktad: $["${myvar}"=""] |
| 19:20.08 | baliktad | ahh |
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| 19:20.35 | axisys | i connected my voange to my pstn and when I call from my cell it goes to my vonage voicemail after rining for few mins.. it is not honoring my extension.. here is how my setup is.. http://pastebin.com/d61bf62ce |
| 19:20.35 | rabby | hi |
| 19:20.55 | axisys | i am using spa 3102 |
| 19:21.03 | rabby | how to find out my asterisk user? there is no user called asterisk and i wonder about the name which is used on my xubuntu distro... |
| 19:21.28 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: PASTEBIN a failed call with SIP DEBUG enabled. |
| 19:21.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 19:21.31 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 19:21.32 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 19:21.38 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: |
| 19:22.56 | tzafrir_laptop | rabby, on ubuntu/debian the package asterisk creates a user called "asterisk" at install-time |
| 19:23.28 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: absolutely nothing shows in debug |
| 19:23.36 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: with SIP DEBUG <--- |
| 19:23.37 | axisys | ghar*CLI> sip set debug |
| 19:23.37 | axisys | SIP Debugging enabled |
| 19:23.39 | axisys | ghar*CLI> |
| 19:23.52 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: If its enabeld and you see nothing then your SPA is not sending calls to * at all |
| 19:24.27 | axisys | it works fine when I make the call from fxs or softphone |
| 19:24.47 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: No sip debug means no traffic. that port is set wrong. |
| 19:25.10 | axisys | port is set to 5061 |
| 19:25.18 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: on your SPA <--- |
| 19:25.25 | axisys | on spa and on sip.conf |
| 19:25.29 | bkruse | 5060 |
| 19:25.39 | axisys | ok let me change it |
| 19:25.41 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: you have misconfigured the SPA. Period. |
| 19:25.48 | [TK]D-Fender | bkruse: No, 5061 is correct |
| 19:25.55 | [TK]D-Fender | (per the base standard) |
| 19:26.04 | axisys | one sec |
| 19:26.07 | [TK]D-Fender | bkruse: FXS on it uses 5060, FXO uses 5061 |
| 19:26.12 | axisys | let me try again |
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| 19:26.26 | bkruse | ohoh, i need to stop coming in on the random parts of a conversation [TK]D-Fender :) |
| 19:26.27 | axisys | i did a boo boo |
| 19:26.47 | rabby | is there a way to do a test call (using ISDN capi card)? |
| 19:26.56 | axisys | now i see debug |
| 19:26.58 | [TK]D-Fender | rabYes. USE IT |
| 19:27.03 | axisys | will paste it |
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| 19:28.36 | Assid | hi, i need some help getting asterisk+meetme to work in a virtual environment under OpenVZ |
| 19:29.24 | Assid | i have zaptel compiled and installed on the hardware node.. i even found the scripts for mknod to make the nodes in /dev along with giving the VE access to the zaptel device |
| 19:29.44 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/d74f5fe16 (sanitized a little) |
| 19:31.16 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: a little? no, you're showing next to nothing. show the COMPLETE call attemp from beginning to end and don't "sanitize" ANY of it |
| 19:32.14 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: it shows my real cell phone and home phone.. can i just cahnge those numbers with 1234567 and just keep the area code ? |
| 19:32.34 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: Believe me when I say that nobody cares about your numbers |
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| 19:37.02 | rabby | [TK]D-Fender: how to do the test call by using it? i do not see incomming calls when trying asterisk -r in verbose mode 10 :( |
| 19:37.28 | rabby | that's why i want to try it with a outgoing dial |
| 19:37.32 | [TK]D-Fender | rabby: then you haven't configured it properly |
| 19:37.55 | [TK]D-Fender | rabby: And just because you don't see an incoming attempt doesn't stop you from trying an OUTGOING attempt |
| 19:38.38 | rabby | [TK]D-Fender: what me stops from trying outgoing, is my missing knowledge about doing so :( that's why i ask... |
| 19:39.05 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: here we go http://pastebin.com/d63487a6b |
| 19:39.06 | [TK]D-Fender | rabby: "core show application dial" <------ |
| 19:39.06 | rabby | [TK]D-Fender: furthermore asterisk does not want to tell about any troubles and wrong configurations |
| 19:39.55 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: First From: Cell Phone VA <sip:5711234567@10.0.0.2>;tag=199a1a10dedefd8fo1 |
| 19:40.00 | axisys | yep |
| 19:40.11 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: NO MATCHING PEER. it is not coming in ID'd as [pstn] |
| 19:40.13 | axisys | amazing how it knows that |
| 19:40.14 | mvanbaak | btw, does anyone know what the Asus Eee pc costs in usa ? |
| 19:40.39 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: because of that its falling under [general] who says : Looking for 7031234567 in default (domain 10.0.0.2) |
| 19:40.50 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: and [default] doesn't have a match |
| 19:41.13 | [TK]D-Fender | mvanbaak: Depend s where you look, and which model |
| 19:41.23 | [TK]D-Fender | mvanbaak: there's only like *20* of them now |
| 19:42.07 | mvanbaak | [TK]D-Fender: any indication between what prices they are ? |
| 19:42.09 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: so i need to change the username=pstn to my cell phone number in sip.conf ? |
| 19:42.42 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: you need to make things match. Doesn't matter which one, so long as they match when you're done. |
| 19:42.56 | [TK]D-Fender | mvanbaak: MAJOR variances. $300-600$ |
| 19:43.08 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: do I match the username on sip.conf ? |
| 19:43.12 | [TK]D-Fender | mvanbaak: You must not be too aware of the spec differences between the models. |
| 19:43.23 | mvanbaak | nope |
| 19:43.40 | mvanbaak | I'm going to USA, and a friend wants an eee pc |
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| 19:43.50 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: NO MATCHING PEER .. is it looking for the ID in sip.conf ? |
| 19:43.54 | mvanbaak | trying to find out if they are cheaper in usa then in .nl |
| 19:43.57 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: Just go look on your SPA as to why it might not be using the SIP USER of [pstn]. |
| 19:44.05 | [TK]D-Fender | mvanbaak: www.newegg.com |
| 19:44.11 | mvanbaak | thanks |
| 19:44.17 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: ok |
| 19:48.12 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: user ID: pstn on SPA PSTN Line |
| 19:48.49 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: dial plan 8: S0<:7031234567@10.0.0.2> |
| 19:49.17 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: so that looks right, no? |
| 19:49.37 | mvanbaak | [TK]D-Fender: ah, they want the 1000 |
| 19:49.44 | mvanbaak | 650 usd there |
| 19:49.50 | mvanbaak | 649 euro here |
| 19:50.19 | mvanbaak | 650 U.S. dollars = 418.38311 Euros |
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| 19:53.06 | bkruse | mvanbaak: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:53.13 | mvanbaak | bkruse: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:53.19 | mvanbaak | *HUGS* |
| 19:53.21 | mvanbaak | erm .... |
| 19:53.22 | drmessano | @@@@ |
| 19:53.24 | mvanbaak | I mean ..... |
| 19:53.27 | mvanbaak | ^5 |
| 19:53.28 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 19:53.29 | bkruse | hugs |
| 19:53.33 | bkruse | i mean...uhh |
| 19:53.36 | bkruse | hi five |
| 19:53.39 | bkruse | How was the boating excursion? |
| 19:53.45 | mvanbaak | I loved it |
| 19:53.47 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: i noticed this line in that paste |
| 19:53.50 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: [Aug 3 15:34:41] NOTICE[9236]: chan_sip.c:14035 handle_request_invite: Call from '' to extension '7031234567' rejected because extension not found. |
| 19:53.50 | mvanbaak | it was so great |
| 19:53.59 | drmessano | nn<O.o>nnn |
| 19:54.03 | axisys | is that why call did not go thru? |
| 19:54.08 | mvanbaak | loads of vino, loads of quality time with my girlfriend, and massive loads of sailing |
| 19:54.45 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: look in your PSTN tab. thats where you should have set user ertc |
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| 19:57.23 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: i have a PSTN Line and a PSTN User |
| 19:57.30 | axisys | two tabs for PSTN |
| 19:57.42 | axisys | PSTN User is empty |
| 19:58.04 | axisys | PSTN Line has the user ID and Dial plans setup as default |
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| 20:00.05 | nn | drmessano: Yes? |
| 20:01.21 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: empty = '' <- |
| 20:01.30 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys>[TK]D-Fender: [Aug 3 15:34:41] NOTICE[9236]: chan_sip.c:14035 handle_request_invite: Call from â to extension '7031234567' rejected because extension not found. |
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| 20:10.11 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: this is how my PSTN user tab looks like .. where do I put my cell phone address? http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_7.png |
| 20:10.34 | axisys | is there a way I can put a regular expression instead ? |
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| 20:13.09 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: look under "LINE", not "user" |
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| 20:17.15 | koenigjm | I am doing some reading on scaling asterisk up to a large user base (1000+), and I keep bumping into using Asterisk Realtime + MySql (or some database) and something out front to handle the interconnection (OpenSER), is this pretty much the norm? |
| 20:17.21 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: i already have a user defined in PSTN Line.. check this out http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_8.png |
| 20:17.56 | jameswf-home | ~hoff |
| 20:17.56 | axisys | under Subscriber Information |
| 20:18.27 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: see your AUTH ID. thats the problem. Se that to NO <- |
| 20:18.33 | Qwell | koenigjm: it certainly isn't uncommon |
| 20:18.40 | Qwell | (and it's no longer called OpenSER, just FYI) |
| 20:18.42 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: its like saying "use A", and then doing "no, B!!!!" |
| 20:18.46 | Qwell | ~openser |
| 20:18.46 | jbot | methinks openser is an open source GPL project that aims to develop a robust and scalable SIP server. It is spawned from FhG FOKUS SIP Express Router (SER) and it promotes a development strategy open for contributors and contributions. From project's website http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/About+OpenSER, or now known as Kamailio |
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| 20:19.51 | koenigjm | Right, I guess I am concerned about the database backend tie everything together...won't that cause an organization to spend a lot of money to make sure that data is always available? |
| 20:20.12 | jameswf-home | sh who needs data |
| 20:20.12 | koenigjm | (I am assuming that without the database there won't be much going on in the system) |
| 20:20.13 | Qwell | koenigjm: sure |
| 20:20.23 | Qwell | but, if a large org can't keep a database going... :) |
| 20:20.32 | koenigjm | lol you have a point |
| 20:20.49 | Qwell | no, but really.. what may help more than using realtime is something like dundi |
| 20:21.16 | koenigjm | Right, that lets you setup more of a clustered environment,yes? |
| 20:21.28 | Qwell | koenigjm: should check out some of Leif's clustering presentations |
| 20:21.42 | koenigjm | *head over to google* |
| 20:22.31 | koenigjm | it certainly seems that rings and clusters in general would be much cheaper to support |
| 20:22.36 | koenigjm | and a bit more fault tolerant |
| 20:23.10 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: it is working now.. awesome!!!! |
| 20:23.10 | Qwell | ~asterisk at large |
| 20:23.15 | Qwell | damn.. |
| 20:23.16 | Qwell | ~wikis |
| 20:23.17 | jbot | [~wikis] VoIP Wiki covering Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, TrixBox, SER, OpenSER, sipX, CallWeaver, and YATE. http://www.voip-info.org (c) Arte Marketing Inc / CommPartners |
| 20:23.25 | Qwell | koenigjm: search there for an entry with that title |
| 20:23.32 | Qwell | that should give you some ideas as well |
| 20:23.59 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: now i need to find out how to send the monkey cry only for some calls and for others make my home phone ring |
| 20:24.07 | koenigjm | This channel always gives me plenty to read, thanks! |
| 20:24.15 | axisys | man this is awesome!!! |
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| 20:25.50 | axisys | [TK]D-Fender: thnx a lot!! |
| 20:29.39 | LemensTS | anyone in here buld there own asterisk packages in debian? |
| 20:29.46 | LemensTS | anyone in here build there own asterisk packages in debian? |
| 20:33.42 | axisys | LemensTS: there is already one available |
| 20:34.13 | axisys | LemensTS: u mean custom? |
| 20:38.09 | [TK]D-Fender | axisys: You're welcome |
| 20:38.15 | tzafrir_laptop | LemensTS, sure |
| 20:38.17 | LemensTS | axisys: i was wanting 1.4.21....ive been trying for 3 days to do this myself, but ive given up. Thinking about paying someone to show me in a screen session or something |
| 20:38.26 | tzafrir_laptop | there's also a fresh one in backports |
| 20:38.38 | rabby | when starting asterisk manually it looks very nice: http://rafb.net/p/iKViuo71.html but using it does not show me any incomming connections :( |
| 20:38.49 | LemensTS | tzafrir: for etch? |
| 20:39.05 | rabby | what i am doing is ISDN/Capi <-> no voip/sip in use! |
| 20:39.25 | rabby | only a simple isdn dial and answer call function... |
| 20:40.00 | tzafrir_laptop | LemensTS, somebody mentioened 1.4.21 backports. I don't see them yet in http://packages.debian.org/asterisk |
| 20:40.28 | tzafrir_laptop | I maintain my own backporting repo . Basically a straight build from the pkg-voip svn repository |
| 20:40.30 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: heard any response on that netkit-tftpd stuff? |
| 20:40.39 | tzafrir_laptop | Qwell, no |
| 20:40.51 | tzafrir_laptop | time to get more formal, I guess |
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| 20:43.10 | k-man | how can i tell if asterisk managed to register with my sip provider? |
| 20:43.47 | LemensTS | yea dont see it in backports. |
| 20:45.26 | jameswf-home | jbot: hoff is <reply> the Hoff should not be haseled.... |
| 20:45.27 | jbot | okay, jameswf-home |
| 20:45.43 | jameswf-home | sip show peer |
| 20:47.38 | Assid | err would someone mind checking a installation for me.. when i enter meetme .. and the playback says im the only one in the conference.. it sounds kinda muffled |
| 20:47.44 | Assid | not sure if its my end or what |
| 20:48.13 | [TK]D-Fender | k-man: "sip show registry" |
| 20:48.24 | jameswf-home | ~meetme |
| 20:48.37 | jameswf-home | stupid bot |
| 20:49.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Assid: it is just you |
| 20:49.47 | Assid | maybe my bandwith.. or its the server. not sure |
| 20:49.50 | jameswf-home | lay off the acid... |
| 20:50.06 | jameswf-home | its not really talking to you |
| 20:50.56 | Assid | i know.. but i have no one else to test this with :( |
| 20:51.16 | k-man | [TK]D-Fender, thanks |
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| 20:53.14 | tzafrir_laptop | LemensTS, my own package is at http://updates.xorcom.com/rapid etch main |
| 20:53.43 | [TK]D-Fender | LemensTS: just compile from source like the rest of us |
| 20:54.57 | LemensTS | tzafrir: cool i found this other one: http://www.astertools.com/tutorials/ZaKoTel+packages |
| 20:55.09 | LemensTS | i will use yours tho, i dont know who ZaKoTel is |
| 20:55.51 | jameswf-home | zaptel is so last month |
| 20:56.41 | LemensTS | TKD: that is how I have always done it, but that way debian doesnt know the dependacies that asterisk depends on in case I remove another package... |
| 20:56.43 | LemensTS | right? |
| 20:57.20 | Blackvel | hey guys. how do you use IVR + call diversion to handy/extern phone without loosing the callerid from the caller party A? clip no screening? my isdn multiplex does not support clip no screening on provider side and I can't use call diversion at telco side because asterisk should accept call and handle IVR first (with option to call out laters) |
| 20:58.31 | Blackvel | my isdn pbx supports that, but not the telco side:( is there any other way to handle call forwarding to my mobile phone after IVR? |
| 20:58.46 | jameswf-home | ahh how did we live without package management... |
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| 21:01.03 | LemensTS | tzafrir: whats your gpg keyring |
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| 21:01.43 | murdock_ut | ~centos52bug |
| 21:01.43 | jbot | [~centos52bug] There is a bug compiling Zaptel up to 1.4.11/1.2.26 on CentOS/RHEL 5.2: error in xpp/xdefs.h. Workaround: uncheck "xpp" (Astribank) driver in menuselect. Fixed in SVN. Patches: http://bugs.digium.com/12889 |
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| 21:04.08 | Assid | okay its happening at the server.. |
| 21:05.54 | tzafrir_laptop | LemensTS, it's right there: http://updates.xorcom.com/xorcom.gpg.asc |
| 21:06.19 | tzafrir_laptop | or in the package xorcom-archive-keyring |
| 21:13.26 | k-man | when i try and dial out, i get the following error: chan_sip.c:12322 handle_response_invite: Failed to authenticate on INVITE to '"1000" <sip:09xxxxxx@192.168.1.2>;tag=as04ac2a39' |
| 21:13.39 | k-man | my config files are here: http://pastebin.com/m445f5883 |
| 21:13.53 | k-man | any ideas what I might be doing wrong? |
| 21:15.05 | [TK]D-Fender | k-man: man pastebin the CALL attempt with SIP debug enabled |
| 21:15.30 | k-man | [TK]D-Fender, ok |
| 21:19.21 | k-man | http://pastebin.com/m19715b38 |
| 21:19.31 | k-man | oh |
| 21:19.34 | k-man | sip debug |
| 21:19.38 | k-man | i just did debug 10 |
| 21:19.41 | k-man | is that enough? |
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| 21:23.49 | [TK]D-Fender | k-man: No, it isn't. We need to see exactly what's being called. disble core debug and enable SIP DEBUG |
| 21:25.45 | k-man | http://pastebin.com/m596964d6 |
| 21:25.55 | k-man | [TK]D-Fender, oh - disable core debug |
| 21:25.59 | k-man | damn.. hang on |
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| 21:27.41 | [TK]D-Fender | k-man: Contact: <sip:09XXXXXX@192.168.1.2> <-- you have not set your system up porperly to operate from behind NAT. Go read the guide : |
| 21:27.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 21:27.43 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 21:27.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^ |
| 21:28.08 | [TK]D-Fender | k-man: AND you rauth is wrong : SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized |
| 21:28.16 | k-man | [TK]D-Fender, ok |
| 21:28.21 | k-man | http://pastebin.com/m2828afa |
| 21:29.42 | k-man | [TK]D-Fender, is that auth refering to the register line? |
| 21:30.05 | [TK]D-Fender | k-man: NAT settings still wrong, auth still wrong |
| 21:30.24 | [TK]D-Fender | .k-mNo, register has nothing to do with auth-ing outgoing calls. thats your PEER setup thats responsible |
| 21:30.39 | k-man | [TK]D-Fender, oh right - thanks |
| 21:31.06 | k-man | so you have to set up port forwarding to make outgoing calls from behind NAT? |
| 21:32.55 | [TK]D-Fender | k-man: Read. The. Guide. |
| 21:33.10 | k-man | ok, thanks |
| 21:35.58 | Assid | err. if i have CONFIG_HZ=100 , would this cause meetme to sound a bit odd? |
| 21:36.05 | Assid | a little like mumbling? |
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| 21:45.14 | ManxPower | Assid: Yes |
| 21:45.34 | Assid | crap.. ubuntu kernels :( |
| 21:58.16 | mchou | can someone verify if this makes sense (i.e. Provider2 can be dialed?) http://pastebin.com/m6f7d6b2a |
| 21:58.36 | mchou | a bit confused re pattern matching |
| 22:00.59 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: looks legit |
| 22:01.29 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: the first line won't override the 3rd line? |
| 22:01.50 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: Possibly. Come up with better patterns to avoid that. |
| 22:02.01 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: What do you SEE happening? |
| 22:02.43 | mchou | 1st line matches any random number string.....that would include ^011 |
| 22:03.06 | mchou | that's my fear.... |
| 22:03.37 | baliktad | TFOT p. 138: One other important thing to know about pattern matching is that if Asterisk finds more than one pattern that matches the dialed extension, it will use the most specific one (going from left to right). |
| 22:03.39 | mchou | so line 3 never becomes active |
| 22:04.21 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: so even if I dial 01123456 the first rule takes over |
| 22:04.25 | mchou | as an example |
| 22:05.29 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: then come up with better patterns. Massive patterns like "X." is a bad idea |
| 22:05.43 | mchou | bah. |
| 22:06.08 | baliktad | or you could READ how pattern matching works |
| 22:06.31 | drako | [TK]D-Fender, after setting kernel to 1000mhz and disabling acpi my problem was gone. |
| 22:06.53 | mchou | the key here is to make use of the redial callerid feature on my handset. any prepended dial pattern just gets in the way |
| 22:07.15 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: Who said anything about adding prefixes? |
| 22:07.58 | mchou | so on lime 3 I should use _#11? :) |
| 22:08.06 | mchou | line* |
| 22:08.22 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: then come up with better patterns. Massive patterns like "X." is a bad idea <---- |
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| 22:09.15 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: I dont really see how if I took your suggestion how I can make use of redial caller ID on the handset..... |
| 22:09.54 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: "_X." is confliting with yout other exten. CHANGE it to something more specific that won't match your other extens. |
| 22:10.11 | eric_hill | Has anyone gotten an inbound ISDN PRI call to properly redirect? zapCD doesn't seem to do anything, neither does Transfer. Is Call Deflection even available? |
| 22:12.28 | mchou | baliktad: hmm, that's useful to know |
| 22:12.55 | mchou | baliktad: thanks for answering the question :) |
| 22:13.58 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: hai |
| 22:15.09 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you missed all the fun and excitement. |
| 22:15.20 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: not to mention the IVs and the painkillers. |
| 22:15.40 | mchou | Katty: sounds nasty |
| 22:16.15 | Katty | mchou: well i wasn't awake for the nasty bits. |
| 22:17.09 | mchou | Katty: well, it's buried deep in you unconscious. Your body remembers :) |
| 22:17.18 | mchou | your* |
| 22:17.46 | mchou | somatic memory. Count on it. |
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| 22:31.13 | grandpapadot | Wow. We just upgraded 26 servers to 1.4.current from 1.2.x ... I need a drink |
| 22:34.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Wow, you never mentioned anything about this... |
| 22:34.33 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: I guess you should be thinking of the patterns that represent normal local numbers. |
| 22:34.45 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: because you could do a lot better than "_X." |
| 22:35.09 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: thats like saying "Oh, its anumber? just dial it". You want choices |
| 22:35.35 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: So clearly more local numbers don't start with 011. What DO they start with or look like? |
| 22:36.01 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: BTW, that was pretty much a rhetorical question as there are dozens of samples out there that should have tipped you off. |
| 22:36.19 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: me and my appendix had words. |
| 22:36.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: How are you feeling? |
| 22:37.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: And it sounds like you had the last word :) |
| 22:37.10 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: loopy and drunk, thanks to the dorvaset |
| 22:37.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: mmmmmmmm druggggggzzzzzzzzz |
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| 22:38.09 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: lil sore, but healing fine |
| 22:39.22 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: went to the doctor thinking i had stomach flu |
| 22:51.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Well its all said and done. Glad you pulled through... |
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| 22:52.29 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: aye (= ty |
| 22:52.29 | jblack | mchou: still goign at it, I see |
| 22:53.48 | jblack | mchou: Tk is right. Generally, it's a good habit to go with the most restrictive filter that you can get away with. I.E. _NXXXXXXX is better than _X. |
| 22:54.12 | jblack | I was kind of sloppy this morning, and I think I forgot to mention that with the examples I gave you |
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| 23:05.01 | ajmcello | can you update a realtime database from extensons.conf? |
| 23:10.20 | ManxPower | update what? |
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| 23:13.32 | n9urk | Hi, how can I configure voicemail.conf so that a message will be sent to multiple email addresses? |
| 23:13.59 | ajmcello | i have a postgres database that i have set up and have defined it in res_odbc adn res_pgsql..i can query it using RealTime, but how would i do an insert or delete, or update? |
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| 23:47.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ajits a database. You'd update it like normal. |
| 23:47.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ajmcello: its a database. You'd update it like normal. |
| 23:49.49 | ajmcello | i think i found out how |
| 23:49.52 | ajmcello | using func_odbc.conf |
| 23:50.14 | ajmcello | i want to do it from within extensions.conf |
| 23:54.13 | [TK]D-Fender | ajmcello: Yes, that would be the way. |
| 23:54.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ajmcello: Though it seems very odd to manipulate the dialplan from WITHIN the dialplan... |
| 23:57.11 | ajmcello | hehehhe |
| 23:57.13 | ajmcello | :) |
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