| 00:03.53 | coppice | a lot of shot people end up dead. how did he escape that? |
| 00:04.33 | Qwell | coppice: ask Tupac |
| 00:06.07 | jblack | oh geeze. |
| 00:06.21 | knarfly | killerd himself usually means they died too...he died is redundant |
| 00:06.25 | knarfly | killed |
| 00:06.39 | jblack | i called the ex to ask 'her' about my kid's clothing situation. Somehow I triggered a diatribe about how "Palin is hitler in a skirt". |
| 00:07.17 | knarfly | no, that would be Rudy G... |
| 00:07.40 | Qwell | jblack: 15 years ago... damn |
| 00:07.50 | Qwell | 14* |
| 00:08.09 | jblack | to hear her tell it, she wants to criminalize abortion and force god into schools. Oh yeah, and she's gonna kill all the polar bears too. |
| 00:08.29 | knarfly | i invented polar bears... |
| 00:08.41 | Qwell | bites his tongue |
| 00:09.11 | jblack | I'm just reporting what I was told, for entertainment value. |
| 00:09.15 | coppice | You'd think God would be powerful enough not to need help from a looser like her |
| 00:09.31 | Qwell | coppice: maybe god doesn't want to be taught in school |
| 00:09.36 | jblack | she also now has a position on UAE entering the clothes sewing business, but she didn't rant enough on that one yet. |
| 00:09.38 | Qwell | I'll bet she never thought of that |
| 00:09.42 | knarfly | who...Obama...the Lord Messiah himself |
| 00:10.00 | coppice | I think that must be God's will, based on modern history |
| 00:10.45 | jblack | If one assumes an all knowing, all powerful being, then one has to accept as given that anything that happens is under the auspicions of said being. |
| 00:11.16 | jblack | You can't have your body of christ and eat it too. |
| 00:11.28 | knarfly | but as George Carlin always said...God may be subject to physical laws....that would explain a lot of things |
| 00:12.00 | jblack | I can not believe in a god in a world that has a trixbox. |
| 00:12.36 | knarfly | I can't believe God would let M$ become the most successful company in history either |
| 00:12.54 | jblack | So, how much longer does new orleans have to exist? |
| 00:13.03 | knarfly | about 15 hours |
| 00:13.04 | Qwell | -3 years? |
| 00:13.22 | knarfly | We here in Miami take hurricanes in stride |
| 00:13.40 | Qwell | people in Malibu are kinda stupid |
| 00:13.43 | knarfly | in NO they just blame the current administration |
| 00:13.47 | Qwell | they've got these houses that are on stilts over the ocean |
| 00:13.50 | jblack | another 2-14 hours/ |
| 00:13.51 | Qwell | they fall. a lot |
| 00:14.05 | Qwell | like, multi-million dollar houses. why would you do that? |
| 00:14.10 | [TK]D-Fender | knarfly: behold the amazing power of hot air in large concentrations |
| 00:14.30 | jblack | Qwell: Because one can prove their rich by rebuilding a multi-million dollar home every 3 years/ |
| 00:14.44 | coppice | Qwell: so they can have a glass floor in the bathroom, and look down at the fish while pooing. |
| 00:14.49 | Qwell | but they don't. they expect insurance to cover it (they don't), and they're financially ruined |
| 00:15.13 | Qwell | coppice: you are a disturbed person |
| 00:15.35 | coppice | For once, I'm not making this up. |
| 00:15.37 | jblack | coppice++ |
| 00:16.08 | jblack | for the fish poo alone. |
| 00:16.20 | knarfly | My ex lives in LaLa Land---So.Calif...and yes there is a different attitude out there |
| 00:17.00 | knarfly | they don't like Earthquakes because the come without warning...and people in So.Calif need at least 45 minutes to Motivate and blowdry |
| 00:17.41 | Qwell | people generally ignore earthquakes... |
| 00:17.48 | Qwell | they aren't a big deal |
| 00:18.10 | MikeJ | watching extreme makeover home edition about new orleans... |
| 00:18.16 | coppice | tell that to the folks in SiChuan |
| 00:18.25 | Qwell | coppice: okay, I should've clarified |
| 00:18.27 | knarfly | Qwell, I lived through severl 5.+ earthquakes in LA back in 1989-1990 and we didn't ignore them |
| 00:18.32 | MikeJ | can't help but think it doesn't make sense to keep rebuilding over and over just to get knocked down |
| 00:18.36 | Qwell | knarfly: did you live there long? |
| 00:18.44 | Qwell | coppice: I meant in southern ca |
| 00:19.06 | jblack | mikej: Everywhere has it's problems. Rebuilding isn't new to any society. |
| 00:19.08 | MikeJ | howdy Qwell coppice NS ll |
| 00:19.18 | Qwell | having grown up there, and slept through countless "major" earthquakes.. I can say a 5 or so is just not a huge deal |
| 00:19.23 | Qwell | MikeJ: hey |
| 00:19.29 | knarfly | only for three years...by then I had met enough neurotic women to scare me straight back to Texas |
| 00:19.30 | MikeJ | jblack: but rebuild every few years in a floodplane? |
| 00:19.48 | Qwell | new orleans is below sea level, isn't it? that's pretty dumb.. |
| 00:19.55 | MikeJ | yeah |
| 00:20.06 | jblack | Mikej: cities end up near rivers for a variety of reasons. |
| 00:20.08 | knarfly | its called the price of admission...take a walk along the beach sometime and you'll know why people want to live there |
| 00:20.31 | knarfly | and risk living there |
| 00:20.46 | jblack | Flood plains are flat, the soil is good, and winters end to be milder. |
| 00:20.55 | MikeJ | but they allow rebuilding before they get levvies repaired ... and they are still only barely to catagory 3 level |
| 00:21.00 | jblack | Building cities on the side of mountains are tough. |
| 00:21.19 | MikeJ | so this one.. looking like a catagory 4... looks like it will just all flood adain |
| 00:21.20 | jblack | Storms like this normally don't come 3 years apart. |
| 00:21.33 | MikeJ | jblack: didn't used to |
| 00:21.35 | jblack | I think it'll be a 3, which is what took 'em out last time anyways. |
| 00:21.50 | LARefugee | can't do it yet. So what's the secret of making asterisk play nice with linux desktop audio I'm using ubuntu hardy/gnome. |
| 00:22.12 | jblack | mikej: current science says they normally wont, either. They decided it would be storm size, not storm frequency. |
| 00:22.28 | jblack | i.e. the 50-100 year storms would be worse, not more frequent. |
| 00:23.01 | jblack | Besides. You're missing a key point of why people would be back there. Lots of bare titties bouncing around. |
| 00:23.05 | MikeJ | isnt that also that the avg. storm would be worse as well |
| 00:23.10 | LARefugee | coppice? You still live in HK? |
| 00:23.26 | jblack | I believe so, yeah, that intensitiy for all should go up. |
| 00:23.31 | [TK]D-Fender | LARefugee: * lock ALSA. Stop wasting your time with the console dial and set up a SOFTPHONE. |
| 00:24.18 | MikeJ | so more big storms.. same thing |
| 00:24.22 | coppice | Qwell: most of Holland is below sea level, some by >20m. Do you think the whole country should move out? |
| 00:24.43 | jblack | MikeJ: Besides, I read that only 1/2 of new orleans came back last time. So this time, it'll be 1/4 of the city it was in '2000. Next time, 1/8 |
| 00:25.30 | LARefugee | [TK]D-Fender: You're saying it can't be done. Don't bother trying to make it work? |
| 00:25.53 | [TK]D-Fender | LARefugee: Saying you're wasting time when you could be productive |
| 00:27.41 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: "Fool me once sham on you, fool me twice.... |
| 00:27.46 | [TK]D-Fender | shame* |
| 00:27.47 | TJNII | LARefugee: Doable but not worth it. Console calls (IMHO) are not vrey usefull. |
| 00:29.43 | LARefugee | Hmmm.. Very well... thx for the tips cu all later.. |
| 00:33.17 | *** join/#asterisk tobias (n=tobias@user-0ce2hvs.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:39.11 | [hC] | someone asked me recently about doing PoE over Cat5 (not 5e) and claimed it wasnt possible to do PoE over regular cat5. This simply cannot be the case, I see no reason why it wouldnt work |
| 00:41.48 | MikeJ | I was under the impression that they don't make regular cat5 anymore |
| 00:45.46 | jblack | Yeah. Good luck finding cat 5. |
| 00:49.07 | [hC] | They dont, but there are plenty of offices that have cat5 installed already and have had it there for years. |
| 00:49.40 | jameswf-home | put on your sales hat and sell rm a rewire |
| 00:50.00 | [hC] | I'd rather not :) |
| 00:50.05 | [hC] | Oh hey james, you're in AZ arent you? |
| 00:50.11 | jameswf-home | i are |
| 00:50.31 | [hC] | Do you know price ranges for PRIs in the phoenix area? |
| 00:50.44 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (n=kumbang@router-wmi.paume.itb.ac.id) |
| 00:50.52 | [hC] | Im about to light up a new POP in AZ and im curious what people pay for PRIs there.. |
| 00:51.32 | jameswf-home | no idea i dot really do purchacing or sales... I am simply a engineer |
| 00:51.51 | jameswf-home | I play all day |
| 00:51.57 | MikeJ | heh |
| 00:52.11 | MikeJ | jameswf-home: how many hits did you get on that blog entry? |
| 00:52.17 | jameswf-home | oh and consume large amounts of DrPepper |
| 00:53.02 | *** join/#asterisk JimVanM (n=jimvanm@bas1-toronto63-1088810630.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 00:53.03 | jameswf-home | sadly none :( so dissapointed |
| 00:53.03 | MikeJ | oh no.. there goes the neighborhood |
| 00:53.03 | jblack | Ahh, that explains why those cards suck. |
| 00:53.03 | MikeJ | no one say anything and maybe JimVanM won't realize we are here |
| 00:57.48 | jameswf-home | thinks it is working |
| 00:58.41 | JimVanM | MikeJ: I can heeeeeeear you |
| 00:58.55 | MikeJ | :D |
| 00:59.04 | Qwell | creepy |
| 00:59.19 | file | cloaks the channel from JimVanM |
| 00:59.29 | sacitec | i'm working on an API with 'Originate' command, i set a Variable under the command. What is the best way to pick up that variable on my dial plan ? |
| 00:59.40 | Qwell | file: there needs to be a mode opposite of +q |
| 00:59.52 | MikeJ | -q |
| 00:59.54 | MikeJ | ? |
| 01:00.04 | file | Qwell: get on that |
| 01:00.04 | Qwell | talk all you want, but you can't read anything :p |
| 01:00.25 | *** join/#asterisk ming_zym (n=ming_zym@nat/yahoo/x-51c1f4559136babb) |
| 01:00.30 | jblack | Hell. You don't need a flag for that. That's the default state of humanity! |
| 01:00.40 | JimVanM | JimVanM is a total IRC newb; easily fooled |
| 01:01.01 | MikeJ | heh |
| 01:01.01 | Qwell | JimVanM: oh really? I guess nobody told you about the Qwell tax then.. |
| 01:01.23 | MikeJ | sends JimVanM a message on irc, email, im and sms all at the same time :P |
| 01:02.19 | JimVanM | Qwell: nope, I knew about that. I'm gonna leave it in my will. |
| 01:03.12 | jameswf-home | ~JimVanM is <reply>JimVanM is a total IRC newb; easily fooled |
| 01:03.16 | jbot | okay, jameswf-home |
| 01:03.21 | jameswf-home | heh |
| 01:03.21 | Qwell | jameswf-home: newb |
| 01:03.29 | Qwell | now try using it |
| 01:03.49 | jameswf-home | ~JimVanM |
| 01:03.49 | jbot | JimVanM is a total IRC newb; easily fooled |
| 01:03.56 | jameswf-home | ? |
| 01:04.07 | Qwell | stupid bot |
| 01:04.11 | jameswf-home | heh |
| 01:05.30 | MikeJ | ~thebook |
| 01:05.31 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 01:05.58 | MikeJ | JimVanM: if your new to asterisk... you should read that.. I hear its a good read |
| 01:06.46 | jameswf-home | keeps both editions on his desk + a digital copy |
| 01:06.57 | Qwell | you keep a digital copy on your desk? |
| 01:07.11 | JimVanM | MikeJ: people tell me that, but I just can't find the chapter that tells me how to get my phone-company-in-a-box going |
| 01:07.19 | jameswf-home | yeah in the mac mini |
| 01:07.45 | MikeJ | step 1: read book |
| 01:07.49 | MikeJ | step 2: .... |
| 01:07.57 | MikeJ | step 3: PROFIT! |
| 01:07.58 | jameswf-home | Step 2 see Step 1 |
| 01:08.12 | JimVanM | now I see my problem |
| 01:08.21 | JimVanM | I always figured step 2 was ... |
| 01:08.28 | jameswf-home | wash rinse repeat, perpetual loop detected |
| 01:08.29 | JimVanM | now I see it's .... |
| 01:08.36 | JimVanM | I was only off by one . ! |
| 01:08.39 | MikeJ | heh |
| 01:08.56 | *** join/#asterisk onats (n=Juanito@unaffiliated/onats) |
| 01:09.11 | onats | where can i buy good cheap IP phones in Hong Kong? |
| 01:09.21 | JimVanM | I am gonna be a 1337 v01 #4x0r |
| 01:09.50 | jameswf-home | onats: on 44th street |
| 01:10.00 | onats | jameswf, where is that exactly, and what shop? |
| 01:12.35 | jameswf-home | wow did a google maps view of hongkong its all chinese to me |
| 01:12.45 | onats | lol |
| 01:12.46 | TJNII | If its good its not going to be cheap and if it is cheap its not going to be good. |
| 01:12.52 | onats | thats probably what i'm going to see.. heheh |
| 01:20.11 | jblack | Oh, speaking of avoidable disasters, time to switch banks if yours is on this list: http://www.geocities.com/tubeguy@rogers.com/troubledbanks.htm |
| 01:22.42 | onats | that looks suspicious |
| 01:22.50 | onats | a geocities website? |
| 01:23.17 | jblack | Just look at the list. They explain where they get their data, and how they do their calculations. |
| 01:24.56 | jameswf-home | im with wells fargo they probably wont go under.. |
| 01:25.45 | jameswf-home | probably not a god idea to take a check from any of them |
| 01:29.32 | jaytee | by the time you found out your money's worthless everyone in the know will have cashed out already and are ready to ride out the crash |
| 01:29.58 | MikeJ | I don't trust anyone that calls themself tubeguy... ESPECIALLY if they are canadian :P |
| 01:30.21 | jaytee | lol |
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| 01:31.08 | jblack | heh |
| 01:33.04 | jblack | jaytee: I think you'd enjoy http://www.chrismartenson.com/crashcourse |
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| 01:51.06 | fflush | hi |
| 01:53.26 | fflush | I am trying to make asterisk give me a busy signal when I call from my mobile, and them I wanted asterisk to call me back on my mobile since I have unlimited receive calls. From that pointed I wanted to make call trough my sip provide |
| 01:53.46 | fflush | I got a dialplen going that gives me a busy signal when I call from my mobile |
| 01:54.01 | fflush | but I can't get asterisk to call me back after the busy signal |
| 01:54.19 | Alton2 | what device is it supposed to use to call you? |
| 01:54.44 | fflush | trough my sip provider |
| 01:54.51 | fflush | voicemeup.com |
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| 01:55.20 | Alton2 | I don't know about them in specific, but have you had any luck calling _anyone_ via your sip provider? |
| 01:56.03 | fflush | yeah work fine, when I use a softphone from my pc |
| 01:56.11 | fflush | connected to my asterisk machine |
| 01:56.57 | Alton2 | hmm, then it shouldn't be much trouble to get a DIAL() command to dial your cell phone in the same manner.... |
| 01:57.33 | Alton2 | you might say Noop(Dialstatus: ${DIALSTATUS}) after the Dial() command to see what happened |
| 01:57.37 | Alton2 | something like that. |
| 01:58.56 | fflush | humm |
| 02:00.33 | fflush | Ihave a gotoif that jumps to the mobile label if the caller id matcher my mobile phone |
| 02:00.44 | fflush | on the mobile label I have the following |
| 02:00.45 | fflush | exten => s,n(mobile),Busy() |
| 02:00.45 | fflush | exten => s,n,Wait(10) |
| 02:00.45 | fflush | exten => s,n,Dial(SIP/5149999999@voicemeup-trunk) |
| 02:00.49 | fflush | exten => s,n,Hangup() |
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| 02:01.18 | fflush | I wanted it to give me a busy signal , and them call me back |
| 02:01.47 | Alton2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.38 | Alton2 | Hell, maybe it's ok, just doesn't look right to me. |
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| 02:03.28 | Alton2 | also, not sure what the start of the mobile label looks like, but you have to start with s,1,xxxxxx() |
| 02:03.39 | Alton2 | can't start with an s,n,xxxxxxx() |
| 02:03.48 | jblack | Those x's should probably have a leading _ |
| 02:04.05 | fflush | I started with a 1 |
| 02:04.12 | Alton2 | just checking |
| 02:04.32 | jblack | Any time you do pattern matching, you need to lead off with a _ to indicate it's a pattern, and not literal. |
| 02:04.32 | bbryant | Alton2: exten _XXXXXX,n,Dial(... |
| 02:05.16 | Alton2 | He's using the 's' extension. |
| 02:06.17 | fflush | no applications seem to be run after I send the busy signal |
| 02:06.24 | fflush | is that normal? |
| 02:06.39 | fflush | I see each application being executed until the busy signal |
| 02:06.53 | fflush | then I get nomore output on the asterisk console after I call from my mobile |
| 02:07.17 | Alton2 | I think that typo is causing it to just go dead. |
| 02:08.08 | fflush | http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+auto-dial+out |
| 02:08.21 | fflush | this is what I am looking for I think |
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| 02:41.54 | jblack | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.25 | jameswf-home | how many floods does it take before they learn its not a good place to build |
| 02:57.14 | jblack | DUnno. How many tornados will it take before Iowa, Nebraska and Kansa learn that's not a good place to build? Or earthquakes for southern california, or hurricanes in florida, or building on permafrost in alaska ? |
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| 02:58.23 | Alton2 | The thing is, they want us to send them the money to rebuild the place. Sheesh. |
| 02:58.31 | Alton2 | I lived there and it's a haven for sin. |
| 02:58.46 | jblack | Manhattan is still lived in, and they're still a huge terrorist threat. |
| 02:59.09 | jblack | We damn well better. The 4 largest refineries in the country are within 100 miles of new orleans. |
| 03:00.28 | oilinki | Alton2: heaven for sin? sounds like a good place to me. :) |
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| 03:01.05 | Alton2 | hah |
| 03:01.06 | jblack | So, Palin would love to hate it, eh? |
| 03:01.21 | Alton2 | I'd love to love her! |
| 03:02.02 | jblack | Only if you like to love people that make your day to day life miserable. |
| 03:02.13 | jblack | which would kinda normal.... ;\ |
| 03:02.13 | TJNII | Well, I live in Iowa and I don't beg for money after tornadoes or the floods this spring. If they want to live below sea level on the coast that's fine, but I don't see why my tax mony should go to rebuilding their house. |
| 03:02.33 | jblack | TJNII: That's because you guys get huge farm subsidies, because you can't be bothered to go to college. |
| 03:02.39 | Alton2 | As I mentioned here recently, I had hurricane Dolly recently, and I'm not asking you guys for money. |
| 03:03.00 | TJNII | jblack: You, sir, are a moron |
| 03:03.06 | jblack | You in the group sense, not specifically. |
| 03:03.22 | Alton2 | I think the people in Iowa are pretty upstanding, pretty decent Americans last time I passed through. Lots more than I can say for where I'm from. |
| 03:03.29 | jblack | Oh, am I? Thanks for the heads up, then. |
| 03:03.41 | jblack | btw, you're a hypocrite. |
| 03:03.43 | Alton2 | Not sure about moron, but probalby a liberal. |
| 03:03.50 | TJNII | jblack: How so? |
| 03:04.02 | Alton2 | Which to me is just as much of an insult. ;-) |
| 03:06.24 | jblack | I'm hard core liberal. |
| 03:06.39 | jblack | Obama is to rightist for my tastes. ;0 |
| 03:07.20 | heedly | TJNII: farm states get massive amounts of money from the government. |
| 03:08.08 | jblack | TJNII: contemporary, farm subsidies, rural infrastructure subsidies. historically, the US pumped the modern equivilant of trillion to help the midwest solve the problems with the non-sustainable farming done in the 10s and 20s, causing the great dustbowl of the 30s. |
| 03:08.26 | jaytee | the Ron Paul supporters are having their own convention |
| 03:09.04 | jblack | I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have turned desert back into arable land. I think that was good. I'm saying that public good extends beyond the capability of individuals. |
| 03:09.37 | jblack | Then again, I also think that a republican that makes less than $200K a year is self destructive. |
| 03:10.42 | jblack | What's the purpose of banding states together into a country, if not to strengthen each other? |
| 03:12.13 | heedly | jblack: gives a centralized people the ability to monopolize resources.. |
| 03:12.15 | jblack | It's tempting to throw N.O. away, but N.O. is the first of a lot of coastal cities that are going to have this problem. You have to remember that within the next 20-30 years, many of our other major cities are going to have this same problem. Manhattan comes to mind quickly. |
| 03:12.23 | heedly | kinda like the EU |
| 03:12.26 | jblack | heedly: I don't understand? |
| 03:12.45 | heedly | the US goverment has a monolopy over the US citizens federal tax dollars. |
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| 03:12.56 | heedly | to do with what ever they please. |
| 03:13.02 | heedly | that's it's purpose. |
| 03:13.18 | WilliamK | just wondering who lives/came from the midwest here |
| 03:13.22 | heedly | States are smaller versions of that. |
| 03:14.37 | jblack | Sure, things are kind of backwards are supposed to be. Power should flow up, not down. |
| 03:14.56 | jblack | of how they are supposed to be. |
| 03:15.15 | Alton2 | Um, and you think the liberal solution is going to fix that? It's the cause of that particular problem. |
| 03:16.01 | jblack | Actually, I'm a strange, unnamed breed called a liberal libertarian. |
| 03:16.23 | Alton2 | Whereas I am a real LIbertarian. |
| 03:17.20 | Alton2 | Not the nutty kind that takes a few ideas from each side, but the kind that believes in less government and more freedom. |
| 03:17.20 | jblack | Hmm, so I'm not real? |
| 03:17.46 | TJNII | jblack: If you think the government should repeatedly pay to rebuild cities known to be destroyed you have no reason to call yourself a libertarian. |
| 03:19.35 | jblack | I don't think anyone can sensibly be a pure libertaran. Even the most stringent libertarians I've met have the opinion that there's a need for _some_ social minimum. Police, Fire, etc. |
| 03:19.51 | TJNII | True. |
| 03:20.00 | Alton2 | Sure we do. But that doesn't logically extend to the govt. taking over. |
| 03:20.19 | Alton2 | The problem is that greed seems to push things in that direction. |
| 03:20.28 | jblack | I'm going to be done with this conversation if you can't maintain a reasonable level of respect, tjnii. I'm treating you with respect, I expect the same. |
| 03:21.06 | jblack | If you're truly a libertarian, you'll be happy to disagree with my opinions, but you should respect them. |
| 03:21.13 | Alton2 | Hmm, I thought you guys got all the disrespect out of the way at the beginning and had settled down. :-) |
| 03:21.21 | TJNII | So had I. |
| 03:21.33 | Alton2 | Um, you did insult him fairly directly, then retracted that. |
| 03:22.04 | Alton2 | something about can't be bothered to go to college. they are pretty good people in Iowa. |
| 03:22.27 | jblack | There's great people in Iowa, I bet. |
| 03:22.42 | jblack | Education doesn't make the man, merely betters him. =) |
| 03:22.53 | Alton2 | Oh well, it'll be interesting to watch the news, see what happens in New Orleans, |
| 03:23.09 | jblack | anyways, I'm very serious about individual rights, privacy, etc. |
| 03:23.10 | Alton2 | I kinda doubt it'll be fixable this time around. Economics alone should take care of that. But we'll see. |
| 03:23.29 | jblack | I think the right to shoot oneself in the foot is inalienable. |
| 03:24.43 | jblack | At the same time, I believe social programs that allow groups and individuals to enhance their capabilities beyond what they could do without assistance, is a good thing. |
| 03:25.17 | jblack | In those aspects, I'm a liberal. I think school should be free, for example. I think we should feed starving people, and all that. |
| 03:25.51 | Alton2 | hmm, the question is where you draw the line |
| 03:25.52 | oilinki | btw. do you think which onw, USA or China will be bigger economical power in 2020? |
| 03:26.00 | jblack | China. |
| 03:26.04 | Alton2 | sheesh, china, we're screwing up here |
| 03:26.32 | Alton2 | they still have some sense of nationalism there, whereas we're going to the road of "multiculturalism" |
| 03:26.34 | oilinki | jblack: I'm thinkin the same. |
| 03:27.06 | jblack | Yeah. I draw the line between people and organizations. I think the first amendment is crucial, but I don't think a corporation should have that right. |
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| 03:27.26 | Alton2 | hmm, a corporation is just a group of people like any other group |
| 03:27.46 | jblack | I suppose, yeah. |
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| 03:28.06 | jblack | I blabbed about my opinions enough .What about you guys? |
| 03:28.16 | Alton2 | Now, I'm all for business and all of that. But I will be the first to say that there's no excuse for those people who, |
| 03:28.35 | jaytee | I'm going with the Shatner/Hasselhoff '08 ticket. |
| 03:28.38 | Alton2 | having gone to church Sunday morning, walk into work Monday morning and promptly forget all of that right-and-wrong stuff in the interest of making the most money possible. |
| 03:29.00 | Alton2 | Sheesh, ever heard Shatner's album? What's really funny is that he thinks he can sing. |
| 03:29.37 | jaytee | Alton2, exactly! a man with chutzpah that big is a perfect fit for the Oval Office. |
| 03:29.48 | Alton2 | Hah, gawd. |
| 03:30.12 | ant | and now for something purely asterisk... |
| 03:30.18 | Alton2 | None of the other people from the original series wanted to work with him. Kinda sad it went to his head, the fame. |
| 03:30.31 | Alton2 | Aha, back to Asterisk, we're at attention. |
| 03:30.36 | jblack | oh, * |
| 03:31.07 | ant | I'm inheriting an asterisk setup, that has no documentation |
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| 03:31.15 | ant | and I'm not completely new to it, but... |
| 03:31.26 | ant | what controls international calling? |
| 03:31.48 | ant | my users can't make int calls |
| 03:31.56 | Alton2 | look for a line that looks like: exten => _011 and something after that |
| 03:32.13 | TJNII | ant: Have you looked at the book? |
| 03:32.36 | Alton2 | Oh, don't be rough on him, he may not even know about the 011 prefix. |
| 03:33.07 | TJNII | Alton2: I have no intention of being rough. If he says no I'll point him at the dialplan chapter. |
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| 03:33.27 | TJNII | Man, what is with the animosity towards me tonight? |
| 03:33.41 | ant | I have looked at books on asterisk; what is "the book"? |
| 03:33.46 | Alton2 | I rather like you. Didn't mean to imply anything. |
| 03:33.54 | Alton2 | ~thebook |
| 03:33.55 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
| 03:34.00 | Alton2 | Available on line. |
| 03:34.03 | oilinki | ant: check this one out http://asterisk.name/asterisk/0596009623/asterisk-chp-5-sect-1.html |
| 03:34.19 | oilinki | the book in better to point at format :) |
| 03:34.44 | Alton2 | If you have different providers and only your international dialing isn't working, then you might look in sip.conf for a list of them, then contact the one who routes your international calls. |
| 03:34.46 | jblack | alton2: exten => _01X.,1,Dial(Yourprovider) |
| 03:34.52 | jblack | sorry. that was for ant |
| 03:34.56 | ant | yes, I have the Asterisk book in my safari susbscription |
| 03:35.02 | Alton2 | Yup, something along those lines. |
| 03:35.08 | jblack | or is it _0X. pardon. |
| 03:35.40 | jblack | international rates can get quite expensive, relatively speaking, btw. |
| 03:35.48 | jblack | I'd consider just adding one country at a time. |
| 03:36.07 | ant | [international]^M |
| 03:36.07 | ant | ignorepat => 9^M |
| 03:36.07 | ant | exten => _9011.,1,Dial(${TRUNK}/w${EXTEN:${TRUNKMSD}})^M |
| 03:36.47 | jblack | I think you at least want an X after that 1, at least. |
| 03:36.57 | jblack | And what's with the windows line endings? |
| 03:37.20 | ant | heh |
| 03:37.23 | ant | my bad |
| 03:37.31 | Alton2 | what is TRUNK set to? |
| 03:37.35 | ant | it's like that in the conf |
| 03:37.46 | jblack | Are you running asterisk, or something "that has asterisk" ? |
| 03:37.47 | Alton2 | look up above in the config for TRUNK |
| 03:38.02 | ant | TRUNK => Zap/G1 |
| 03:38.34 | Alton2 | and somewhere (I can't remember) G1 is defined, "Group 1" it sounds like |
| 03:38.49 | Alton2 | so you make calls via T1s or something similar |
| 03:39.06 | ant | yep, I've got a digium card |
| 03:39.11 | Alton2 | in /etc/zaptel.conf or something |
| 03:39.17 | Alton2 | I'd have to look, don't use it myself any more |
| 03:39.22 | jblack | exten => _90X.,1,Dial(Zap/G1/${EXTEN:1}) |
| 03:39.24 | jblack | Please try that |
| 03:39.35 | Alton2 | look in there, these guys know better than I do really where it's at |
| 03:39.50 | jblack | 90CountyPhone |
| 03:39.51 | Alton2 | Well, assuming international dialing worked before, his setup is acceptable, let's see where it's failing? |
| 03:40.05 | jblack | Oh, it did? I missed that. |
| 03:40.32 | jblack | is pissed they didn't build 20' retaining walls. |
| 03:40.38 | Alton2 | I'm not sure, he didn't say. |
| 03:40.57 | Alton2 | I just figure we'll find where he's sending the calls, then he can check with them if they'll route international calls or not. |
| 03:40.58 | ant | international calls have never work, I'm told |
| 03:41.14 | jblack | Try that line I just gave you, ant. |
| 03:41.15 | ant | s/work/worked |
| 03:41.26 | ant | yep |
| 03:42.04 | Alton2 | Where is that G1 defined guys? I forget. |
| 03:42.27 | jblack | That's the zap group. It should be in zapata.conf |
| 03:42.38 | Alton2 | in /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 03:42.48 | jblack | aww. nobody in the channel conference |
| 03:43.12 | ant | there's group=1 and group=2 |
| 03:43.17 | ant | in zapata.conf |
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| 03:46.03 | jaytee | group=1 in zapata.conf = G1 or g1 in the dialplan. whether the letter is capital or not depends where it starts to find an available channel, lowest or higest order. |
| 03:46.42 | Alton2 | interesting |
| 03:46.58 | Alton2 | oh well, I'd check with the people that provide your T1s, save you a lot of screwing around. |
| 03:47.11 | Alton2 | if they'll accept international calls then you can work from there. |
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| 03:50.10 | ant | is there a way to just reload extensions.conf? |
| 03:50.17 | Alton2 | dialplan reload |
| 03:50.23 | ant | cheers |
| 03:51.01 | ant | dialplan reload doesn't work for me |
| 03:51.08 | Alton2 | extensions reload |
| 03:51.18 | Alton2 | you must be running old stuff, couldn't hurt to upgrade once you're secure |
| 03:51.22 | ant | success! |
| 03:51.25 | ant | yep |
| 03:51.48 | ant | once I figure out what they (well now, we've) got |
| 03:52.05 | Alton2 | show version I think |
| 03:52.17 | ant | 1.2.13 |
| 03:53.06 | Alton2 | I can't remember what particular shortcomings 1.2 might have, but 1.4 is common and 1.6 is kinda out, at least it's in use here and there. |
| 03:53.25 | Alton2 | anyway, no need to complicate matters unduly, first get it figured out and then upgrade later. |
| 03:53.38 | ant | yep |
| 03:54.29 | ant | well, and it's also running on a huge server, which it doesn't need to be on, so I'm trying to get a working config on another machine, to just roll over to |
| 03:54.45 | Alton2 | those zaptel cards are a pain to get going oftentimes |
| 03:55.27 | ant | heh, apparently quite a few folks have knocked heads against this thing |
| 03:55.29 | Alton2 | so unless you have spares (expensive) you might be cautions about that particular migration. |
| 03:55.44 | Alton2 | what does it do? anything special? |
| 03:56.28 | ant | it's just running asterisk, nothing else |
| 03:56.39 | Alton2 | I mean, company pbx, call center? |
| 03:56.47 | ant | company pbx |
| 03:56.57 | ant | for like 25 people |
| 03:57.06 | Alton2 | so it's got 1 t1 card/channel in it? |
| 03:57.13 | ant | yep |
| 03:57.30 | Alton2 | oh, you'll be fine, you can get it all migrated after hours, that sort of thing. |
| 03:57.33 | ant | we've got an adtran as well, and 4 total t1's |
| 03:57.37 | ant | tho |
| 03:57.49 | Alton2 | those via ip? |
| 03:58.08 | ant | afaik |
| 03:58.31 | Alton2 | 4 T1s for 25 people? |
| 03:58.37 | jblack | Qwell: Are you about? |
| 03:58.52 | ant | silly question #39--> is there a difference btwn a T1 being used for VoIP and a T1 for, well, data? |
| 03:59.15 | jblack | The type of complains you get when it goes down. |
| 03:59.16 | Alton2 | they can be divided up, by stuff like Adtrans and the like |
| 03:59.29 | jblack | In the former, people gripe they can't reach the phone sex lines. in the latter, they gripe they can't get to their porn. |
| 03:59.41 | ant | ROFL |
| 03:59.45 | ant | hehehe |
| 03:59.53 | ant | that's awesome |
| 03:59.56 | jblack | seriously, though, you're not being completely clear. |
| 04:00.19 | jblack | PRIs can be voice, which basically means pots lines. Or they can be data, which means tcp/ip. |
| 04:00.22 | ant | I'm not quite smart enough to be clear, so advanced apologies. |
| 04:00.30 | jblack | at least in my limited understanding. someone will probably smack me up for saying that. |
| 04:01.06 | Alton2 | each of the 28 (?) channels can be dedicated to voice or data in the typical setup. |
| 04:01.27 | Alton2 | so if it's a voice channel then there are standards for that, that's what you're using with ZAP |
| 04:01.38 | Alton2 | no voice over IP going on there. |
| 04:01.58 | ant | ah |
| 04:02.25 | jblack | I think it's 23 + 1 D channel, alton. |
| 04:02.45 | jblack | and those 23 can be apportioned as you say. |
| 04:02.47 | Alton2 | I get confused between T1 and E1. I get confused about a lot of things! |
| 04:03.04 | ant | we have a fax line (and 4 other analog lines) that stopped working a couple weeks ago...they appear to go through this box and the TDM card, but I just can't figure out how that works |
| 04:03.14 | jblack | Just make your life simple. Get a Big ASS fibre line, and do it all w/ voip. |
| 04:03.24 | jblack | Some neat 346 Terra-Googlebit connection |
| 04:03.32 | Alton2 | great, fax over tdm, something else to fool with / certify. |
| 04:03.58 | jblack | for faxing, you'll want a voice channl for that, or a service like myfax. |
| 04:04.03 | ant | it **looks like** it goes over this box |
| 04:04.08 | jblack | faxing over voip is unreliable. |
| 04:05.15 | ant | we're trying to move to efax, but I'm still wanting to figure out where/how this setup works |
| 04:05.56 | jblack | Oh shit! I just figured out how to solve terrorism! |
| 04:06.14 | ant | do tell |
| 04:06.28 | jblack | We promse every high school college graduate _100_ virgins! |
| 04:06.52 | jblack | Why kill people for 99 virgins, when you can be nice and get 100? |
| 04:06.57 | ant | Unable to register extension '666', priority -1 in 'flimflam', already in use |
| 04:07.19 | ant | what's that mean? |
| 04:07.21 | Alton2 | just an error in the extensions.conf file |
| 04:07.36 | Alton2 | look in all the exten => 666 lines |
| 04:07.38 | postel | ant: it means the extension is reserved by the devil |
| 04:07.41 | ant | heh, I get that; what kindofan error? |
| 04:07.48 | ant | lol |
| 04:07.54 | Alton2 | exten => 666,1,xxxxxx |
| 04:07.57 | jblack | who gave you that extension? |
| 04:07.58 | Alton2 | exten => 666,nxxxxxx |
| 04:08.09 | Alton2 | stuff like that shoould appear, not sure how -1 gets in there |
| 04:08.11 | Alton2 | or why |
| 04:08.18 | Alton2 | oops, |
| 04:08.22 | Alton2 | exten => 666,n,xxxxx |
| 04:08.44 | ant | dude, this setup is so hosed |
| 04:08.45 | jblack | It's the priority -1 that's getting him, methinks. |
| 04:09.00 | ant | and I'm kindofa beginner, trying not to mess it up words |
| 04:09.05 | ant | worse, even |
| 04:09.16 | jblack | you need chapters 5 and 6 of the book |
| 04:09.20 | jblack | ~chapter5 |
| 04:09.25 | Alton2 | that was me 4 months ago, rank beginner, taking over hosed setup |
| 04:09.38 | Alton2 | so take heart that in 4 months you'll be... merely a beginner! |
| 04:09.41 | jblack | You put the mark of the devil into his dialplan ? |
| 04:09.48 | ant | alright, I'm gonna go read chap 5 and 6 then |
| 04:09.51 | ant | and come back to this |
| 04:10.04 | jblack | please do. We'll be able to help you better if you undersatnd the answers. |
| 04:10.08 | jblack | Alton2: Did you? |
| 04:10.15 | Alton2 | very much so |
| 04:10.18 | ant | yep, thanks a bunch |
| 04:10.45 | ant | it is strange that the 666 extension has apparently always caused problems |
| 04:10.55 | jblack | What? did he piss you off so much, that you thought you'd encourage satan to take over his baby's soul? |
| 04:11.19 | ant | ah, I found it |
| 04:11.23 | jblack | This can't be a real conversation. I must be having a nightmare |
| 04:11.37 | ant | it's because the extensions are all out of order, and somebody put 666 in here twice |
| 04:11.41 | ant | heh |
| 04:11.58 | jblack | Yes. Only call satan once. |
| 04:12.34 | jblack | decides to make a 4 8 15 16 23 42 extension. |
| 04:17.51 | ant | "To successfully set up your own Asterisk system, you will need to understand the dialplan." |
| 04:18.15 | jblack | That's right. |
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| 04:18.33 | oilinki | hmm. with realtime, how can I see which phones are connected to the asterisk (from mysql db)? |
| 04:20.49 | oilinki | for dynamic hosts, checking wether the phone has an ip-address in the db or not? |
| 04:22.29 | oilinki | ah. that actually works. the ip was indeed cleared out right after the unregistration |
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| 04:34.18 | ldiamond | I've been reading around about Asterisk, yet I still dont know what I can do with it. |
| 04:34.29 | ldiamond | can anyone here enlighten me? |
| 04:36.15 | jameswf-home | any thing you want |
| 04:36.42 | ldiamond | It only works on unix/linux? |
| 04:37.12 | jameswf-home | depends there is a win32 port |
| 04:38.17 | jameswf-home | to get the full powe you should use linux |
| 04:38.25 | ldiamond | I see |
| 04:39.10 | ldiamond | Is there any free service that allows going from VoIP network to the standard phone network? So I can place calls to regular phones? |
| 04:40.06 | jameswf-home | ~itsplist-us |
| 04:40.07 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net |
| 04:41.53 | ldiamond | so I guess nothing free? |
| 04:41.59 | ldiamond | at least nothing decent for free... |
| 04:42.21 | jameswf-home | ~cheap |
| 04:42.22 | jbot | it has been said that cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 04:42.36 | oilinki | ldiamond: asterisk is an solution, but before it you need to have some problem ,which needs an solution |
| 04:43.00 | jameswf-home | oilinki: thats deep |
| 04:43.41 | ldiamond | yea, my current problem is I cant place long distance calls. |
| 04:44.13 | oilinki | jameswf-home: quite often there are nice gaglets on the market. I have bought several ones.. and try later on to figure out what I could do with it. :) |
| 04:44.22 | jameswf-home | free long distance is a myth |
| 04:44.29 | ldiamond | I dont need them to be free |
| 04:44.39 | ldiamond | but I need to be able to make some. |
| 04:45.11 | ldiamond | and I'd want them to be 5¢/min or less |
| 04:45.50 | jameswf-home | ldiamond: asterisk is probably overkill get a ferr ata and like packet8\ |
| 04:45.51 | oilinki | ldiamond: I'm calling daily long distance between continents. I don't need asterisk for it, but it helps. |
| 04:46.12 | jameswf-home | *free |
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| 04:48.21 | ldiamond | free ata? |
| 04:48.55 | ldiamond | thats like PC to PC? |
| 04:49.10 | jameswf-home | no its like sip to analog |
| 04:49.30 | oilinki | free softphone, or you can use your mobile phone, if it supports sip-voip |
| 04:51.11 | ldiamond | ty for your answers |
| 04:52.16 | jameswf-home | ldiamond: http://www.magicjack.com/8/index.asp |
| 04:55.02 | oilinki | yet another 'skype phone' |
| 04:56.19 | ant | FREEFREEFREE |
| 04:56.48 | ant | except it's not free |
| 04:56.53 | Alton2 | hah |
| 04:57.16 | ant | jeezus |
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| 04:59.32 | newbie___ | hi all, my sip debug says 'Peer doesn't provide audio", anyone knows what it mean ? |
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| 05:02.39 | TyGuy | Hey guys anyone active? |
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| 05:10.30 | jameswf-home | heh no |
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| 05:16.49 | TyGuy | what is a the cheapest card/box I can get to connect astrix to my home pots line |
| 05:20.09 | newbie___ | TyGuy: i am using openvox tdm cards |
| 05:24.42 | Mog | TyGuy, x100p clone |
| 05:24.55 | Mog | but digium cards are pretty sweet ^_^ |
| 05:26.02 | ant | zttool shows that my second span is down (Alarm == Red) |
| 05:26.13 | ant | what can be done to reset that situation? |
| 05:27.50 | TyGuy | i need one that has the two ports |
| 05:28.07 | TyGuy | FXO and FXS |
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| 05:29.49 | jameswf-home | TyGuy: best without going with a clone is an ata |
| 05:30.03 | TyGuy | whats wrong with clones |
| 05:30.15 | jameswf-home | ~cheap |
| 05:30.18 | jbot | well, cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 05:30.23 | TyGuy | sorry I don't know much about astersisk |
| 05:30.31 | jameswf-home | ~x100p |
| 05:30.31 | jbot | x100p is probably an obsolete card. You don't want to bother trying to make it (or any of the "digium compatible" clones) work. Get a TDM01B, and you will save your sanity, your hair, and countless other things. |
| 05:32.34 | TyGuy | i don't really want to spend alot of money |
| 05:32.42 | TyGuy | just a toy to play around with |
| 05:34.17 | drmessano | x100p is a crap card |
| 05:34.20 | TyGuy | i'm looking for under $100 |
| 05:34.22 | drmessano | It's not something to play with |
| 05:34.26 | drmessano | It's crap |
| 05:34.43 | drmessano | I know, you're going to convince us it's ok to use because you need is minimal |
| 05:35.11 | MikeJ | TyGuy: x100p may have echo and caller id problems, but other than that they are totally fine |
| 05:35.11 | drmessano | Fine, get a P100 with 32 MB RAM, load Windows 95 on it, and load an AOL disk on there.. thats the INTERNET TOO. |
| 05:35.12 | TyGuy | well it only has 1 port witch wouldn't work for me anyways |
| 05:35.26 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy>i need one that has the two ports <- Linksys SPA-3102 = $70 |
| 05:35.27 | MikeJ | for something to play with.. |
| 05:36.47 | TyGuy | so that would work for having one to to the phone company and one to the phone line in my house |
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| 05:37.50 | Mog | if 100 is too much just get an x100p your not gonna find anything under that except maybe on skebay, or an ata |
| 05:38.45 | MikeJ | yeah.. but your not going to get 1 fxs/1 fxo from that... for that the spa is not bad |
| 05:39.04 | TyGuy | spa? |
| 05:39.21 | MikeJ | spa-3102 |
| 05:39.24 | MikeJ | its a sip ata |
| 05:39.45 | TyGuy | that works with astrix right |
| 05:40.00 | MikeJ | should.. anything that talks sip |
| 05:40.37 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: Yes. |
| 05:41.07 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: Its just fine as a choice. You can use it with 1 LINES, and 1 PHONE (they work independantly of each other and bridge on power failure |
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| 05:41.50 | TyGuy | thats cool |
| 05:42.04 | TyGuy | another question |
| 05:42.23 | TyGuy | how easy is it to get a overhead type speaker working |
| 05:42.48 | jblack | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.49 | jameswf-home | hard is a relitive term |
| 05:43.14 | TyGuy | can you just hook it up to a audio card |
| 05:43.17 | jblack | more accurately, the handset of a phone with auto answer and autohangup |
| 05:43.23 | jameswf-home | sure |
| 05:43.59 | TyGuy | ic |
| 05:44.15 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: You can use the soundcard on your * server |
| 05:44.38 | TyGuy | ok thats what i thought |
| 05:44.47 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: Or purchase powered SIP overhead speakers. Or get a Viking Paging interface |
| 05:45.00 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: Or just page through most SIP phones, etc |
| 05:45.16 | TyGuy | sip phones hook up via cat5? |
| 05:45.35 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: They are notmal network devices |
| 05:45.38 | [TK]D-Fender | normal* |
| 05:45.56 | TyGuy | can you get wifi sip phones? |
| 05:46.00 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: Go read the book to understand the various technologies * can work with |
| 05:46.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 05:46.04 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 05:46.22 | TyGuy | will do thanks guys |
| 05:46.31 | TyGuy | if have any other questions I will be back lol |
| 05:47.39 | oilinki | TyGuy: there are also lot's of nokia pones which support sip-voip |
| 05:48.13 | oilinki | better solution as user can keep all the contacts in one place |
| 05:48.59 | *** join/#asterisk cryptnix (n=andrew@65.183.179.26) |
| 05:49.56 | TyGuy | I have a feeling this is going to cost more money then I was wanting to spend lol |
| 05:50.34 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: $70 |
| 05:50.58 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: I don't want to spend money and I expect the Ferrari to arrive at my doorstep for free. |
| 05:51.07 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: I think your odds are a little better. |
| 05:51.11 | oilinki | btw. does the new iphone support voip? |
| 05:51.21 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: There is a client for it |
| 05:51.39 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: sip-voip/wifi? |
| 05:51.47 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Yup |
| 05:51.54 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Easily Google-able |
| 05:52.06 | oilinki | ok. thats fgood |
| 05:52.18 | oilinki | s/g// |
| 05:52.39 | oilinki | hih.. I'll give up :) |
| 05:52.46 | Mog | TyGuy, if your worried about money use a softphone and a voip provider |
| 05:52.55 | Mog | physical things tend to cost money |
| 05:53.40 | TyGuy | do i need nics on the server? |
| 05:53.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Mog: He clearly has a line already... |
| 05:53.51 | TyGuy | one going to the linux box and one going to the router |
| 05:53.59 | [TK]D-Fender | TyGuy: For the SPA yes. |
| 05:54.02 | Mog | then he should stop paying for it ^_^ |
| 05:54.02 | jameswf-home | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:54.08 | Mog | he clearly has no money |
| 05:54.11 | Mog | ^_^ |
| 05:54.19 | jameswf-home | s/!/ Crap /g |
| 05:54.24 | TyGuy | I have money I just don't want to pay lol |
| 05:54.25 | jameswf-home | heheh |
| 05:54.27 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: is the iphone voip support a hack or is it enabled by default? |
| 05:54.38 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: JFGI |
| 05:54.47 | Mog | jfgi? |
| 05:54.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ~jfgi |
| 05:54.51 | jbot | http://www.google.com/search?q=jfgi |
| 05:54.51 | oilinki | JFGI? |
| 05:54.57 | Mog | lol |
| 05:55.00 | oilinki | hoo |
| 05:55.05 | Mog | i got it just before it came up |
| 05:55.07 | TyGuy | I shoud just get that 4 port card and charge it and deal with paying for it later lol |
| 05:55.12 | jameswf-home | Jesus For Gastro Interoligist? |
| 05:55.29 | oilinki | well, why should anyone talk in IRC when we have already the fucking google? |
| 05:57.02 | Mog | for this wondrous dialog of course |
| 05:57.06 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Because there is a difference between gaining deeper understanding on Asterisk, and the fact you expect everything to be ahnded to you when you won't get off your ass for a few clicks. |
| 05:57.43 | TyGuy | well I was just looking for a quick answer instead of trying to find it on a wiki or something |
| 05:57.46 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: fine. but as far as I see the client side is as important as the server. everything is related |
| 05:58.00 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 05:58.03 | oilinki | and seems that there is only 3rd party client for iphone |
| 05:58.27 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Of course you do, thats what desperate attempts at validation are for. I know lazy when I see it. You could have had the answer in less time looking yourself. |
| 05:58.27 | oilinki | eg. not usable for the real people |
| 05:58.56 | jblack | oilinki: Lack of initiative on your part does not indicate an obligation on our part to provide you with free assistance. |
| 05:59.12 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: and also. people tend to have more information in this kind of channels. not only information what is done by some website. |
| 05:59.30 | jblack | oilinki: Do you know how to vacuum carpets? |
| 05:59.31 | jameswf-home | ~freesupport |
| 05:59.32 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, freesupport is Remember people are in irc to help but their are limits to free support. you should try to google or call the manufacturers support for hardware issues. The fastest way to lose help here is to be impatient or combative. If you know so much more than us that you can say "no that's not it" maybe you shouldn't ask us questions |
| 05:59.42 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: "some website" are places MADE by "real people" |
| 06:00.05 | jameswf-home | my website was made by god |
| 06:00.22 | [TK]D-Fender | "This web page is best viewed with.... YOUR EYES" |
| 06:00.23 | MikeJ | jameswf-home: you have an in with that guy? |
| 06:00.38 | jameswf-home | yeah he is my homie |
| 06:00.38 | oilinki | but let's go the initial question. is there a client for iphone? - the answer is both. yes. for that it's possible and no that it's not usable |
| 06:01.18 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Yes its usable and there are several./ |
| 06:01.31 | jblack | a client for iphone? I think the iphone is a client.. of at&t's network. |
| 06:01.42 | MikeJ | a sip client? |
| 06:01.49 | newbie___ | anyone tried asterisk with huawei before? |
| 06:01.57 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: You're the one putting all of these preconditions on everything. |
| 06:02.04 | MikeJ | you can use truphone to make sip calls but not sure if the iphone client lets you do sip calls |
| 06:02.07 | MikeJ | the nokia one does |
| 06:02.34 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Is there an easy to install Apple branded one? NO. <- TFB. If thats enough to stop you then move along. |
| 06:02.35 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: for me the solution has to be so easy so that I can give it to 60 years old lady and she would not be confused. |
| 06:03.26 | oilinki | and for me that's the definition of if the client is available. |
| 06:04.27 | oilinki | I'm sorry. I do not wish to offend (too much), but there is also reason why I rather talk in the irc than merely google for the information. |
| 06:04.35 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Then you have your answer. |
| 06:04.54 | *** part/#asterisk Mog (n=mog@c-68-62-219-86.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 06:04.57 | jblack | oilinki: Ok, what about what others want? |
| 06:05.05 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: yes I do and I thank you for pointing me in to the correct way |
| 06:06.15 | oilinki | jblack: then they need to ask in that way. I find that quite a many solutions are too difficult for people to use. |
| 06:06.23 | oilinki | (in mobile terminal voip) |
| 06:06.35 | jblack | oilinki: Ok. i want people that haven't tried to google first to not come here. |
| 06:07.41 | oilinki | jblack: if you do 'iphone native sip voip' you'll find both of the answers |
| 06:08.32 | jblack | ? Why would I care whether the iphone doe sip? I don't have an iphone. |
| 06:08.53 | ant | perhaps a join #iphone is in order |
| 06:09.15 | oilinki | jblack: well, if you want to get the sip/asterisk to fly for mobile voip, then you might be interested about it? |
| 06:09.47 | jblack | I have no intention of getting an iphone, or any other cell phone, for that matter. |
| 06:10.10 | jblack | If I did, I'd google it first, rather than relying on people first. |
| 06:10.30 | jameswf-home | for the most accurate answer go to the room where the question is OT |
| 06:10.39 | jblack | OT or OT ? |
| 06:10.57 | jameswf-home | yes |
| 06:10.59 | jameswf-home | :)) |
| 06:11.02 | jblack | heh |
| 06:11.18 | oilinki | I have no intention to buy iphone neither |
| 06:11.21 | *** join/#asterisk foexle (n=heiko@router.moltomedia.de) |
| 06:11.30 | jameswf-home | this->topic != iphone |
| 06:11.33 | jameswf-home | this->topic != sip |
| 06:11.35 | jblack | I'm so disapointed. I was kind of hoping N.O. would spin up into the sky like Dorothy's house. |
| 06:11.50 | *** join/#asterisk scardinal (n=supreme@port816.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 06:12.11 | jblack | Or do the atlantis thing |
| 06:12.47 | *** join/#asterisk Thorn (n=thorn@unaffiliated/thorn) |
| 06:12.49 | jameswf-home | yeah LA could go under and add a ton of shoreline |
| 06:13.06 | jblack | technically, I think there would be less shoreline, not more. |
| 06:13.50 | jameswf-home | oh well no loss different skore line |
| 06:13.58 | jameswf-home | *shore |
| 06:14.21 | jameswf-home | sink LA rebuild the reef |
| 06:15.14 | jameswf-home | down side if you remove LA its population propigates elsewhere |
| 06:15.31 | jblack | They're people, not monkeys. |
| 06:15.57 | jblack | "Get your stinkin hands off my piano, you damn, dirty Jazz Player!" |
| 06:16.30 | jameswf-home | what about monkees? you racist |
| 06:16.33 | jameswf-home | :)) |
| 06:16.48 | jblack | THey suck. they didn't make a single good song. |
| 06:17.07 | jameswf-home | or a single song |
| 06:17.14 | jblack | You ever listen to I'ma believer? Not one single bit of emotion. |
| 06:17.35 | jameswf-home | the monkeys were all mili vanili |
| 06:17.37 | oilinki | clearly I'm very confused what is consired as asterisk talk... :) |
| 06:18.01 | jameswf-home | oilinki: asterisk is linux speek for everything |
| 06:18.17 | jameswf-home | its a wildcard |
| 06:18.20 | jblack | Imagine a big circle. In the center, things are good. Outside the circle, things are good too. |
| 06:18.34 | jblack | but that circular band around the circle, death awaits ye. |
| 06:19.06 | jameswf-home | oilinki: its a karma thing some of us have off topic karma built up |
| 06:19.13 | jblack | I.E. on topic, great. Off topic, great. _Almost_ on topic results in blindness and disease. |
| 06:19.41 | oilinki | hih |
| 06:19.43 | jameswf-home | we googled b4 entry |
| 06:19.58 | *** join/#asterisk io_error (n=error@unaffiliated/ioerror/x-384576) |
| 06:20.07 | jblack | Besides. Gotta pass the time somehow, while waiting for another * question. Which we'll probalby have in about 10 sec. |
| 06:20.26 | io_error | When will my IAXy arrive? |
| 06:20.29 | io_error | :) |
| 06:20.36 | jblack | Thursday, at 3pm. |
| 06:20.42 | io_error | Thanks! |
| 06:20.44 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: We've pointed out that there are several iphone SIP clients. The fact you don't like it... we don't really care. What more do you want? We aren't your therapist. If thats what you're looking for, #drphil awaits. |
| 06:20.45 | jameswf-home | I googled dancing purple goats oddley |
| 06:20.45 | jblack | np. |
| 06:20.49 | jameswf-home | about 1,680,000 for dancing |
| 06:20.53 | jameswf-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.56 | jameswf-home | purple |
| 06:21.00 | jameswf-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.05 | jameswf-home | goats |
| 06:21.08 | io_error | Seriously I am having trouble waiting for it, because I need it to use this: http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7117/p8310001uo5.jpg |
| 06:21.09 | jameswf-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.13 | jameswf-home | . (0.24 seconds) |
| 06:21.21 | jameswf-home | holy crap |
| 06:21.28 | jblack | whoah. 33k hits for "paris hilton blows bumblebees" |
| 06:21.46 | jblack | io_error: sweet. :) |
| 06:21.47 | jameswf-home | iaxy is bleh |
| 06:22.03 | jblack | io_error: You could just get some cheap, crappy ata. |
| 06:22.03 | io_error | jblack: thanks. |
| 06:22.04 | jameswf-home | iaxy probably wont push the bell |
| 06:22.12 | io_error | jameswf-home: Yeah, but you can dialout on a rotary phone with an IAXy |
| 06:22.14 | jblack | wait, does * even talk pulse dialing? |
| 06:22.21 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: In here we don't need the mind-doctors. anyway I just wanted to know if the iphone can at the moment support for sip-voip (and if someone would have information of the roadmaps.) |
| 06:22.30 | io_error | jblack: * doesn't, I think, but the IAXy does |
| 06:23.00 | jameswf-home | oilinki: such a Q is for #iphone |
| 06:23.01 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: We've said yes many times, in fact far more than we should. Its not simple enough for you liking. So just stop already. |
| 06:23.01 | io_error | jblack: Right now I have a PAP2 and it certainly does not support pulse dialing. Though it wouldn't ring the phone until I cranked up the voltage to 90v |
| 06:23.07 | jblack | Heh, * can do pulse dialing on zaps. |
| 06:23.14 | jameswf-home | * is not a catch all voip topic channel |
| 06:23.36 | jblack | io_error: It's the ATA that would need to know how to do pulse. |
| 06:23.40 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: I already got my answer long time ago. |
| 06:23.51 | io_error | jblack: Yeah, exactly, that's why I'm still waiting on my backordered IAXy. :( |
| 06:24.01 | jblack | Gotcha |
| 06:24.18 | [TK]D-Fender | oilinki: Good so this discussion is over. |
| 06:24.22 | jblack | Now we need a new topic. |
| 06:24.32 | jblack | [TK]D-Fender: Which are better? Green grapes, or purple grapes? |
| 06:24.37 | oilinki | [TK]D-Fender: finally :) |
| 06:24.47 | jameswf-home | perhaps it is time asterisk got in to the 19th centry and added a pulse dialing patch |
| 06:25.18 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: Chicks dig red wine more. Thats a freebie :) |
| 06:25.34 | io_error | jameswf-home: Eh, I like having a few retro things around. Reminds me where we came from. |
| 06:25.37 | jblack | How about you james... green or purple grapes? |
| 06:26.04 | jameswf-home | ummm yes I am fat i like all grapes a long as they are seedless |
| 06:26.31 | jblack | stores that fact away for later. |
| 06:27.28 | jblack | by the way, you're both wrong. The correct answer is "peanut butter is better" |
| 06:27.59 | jameswf-home | i like penut butter too |
| 06:28.03 | jameswf-home | i am easy |
| 06:28.28 | jameswf-home | greeen grape jelly probably wouldnt sell |
| 06:29.00 | jblack | heh. I never considered a "green grape jelly". |
| 06:29.38 | jblack | people make jelly out of all sorts of weird stuff. I bet there's a jar of green grape somewhere. |
| 06:30.10 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@cc341200-a.assen1.dr.home.nl) |
| 06:30.26 | jblack | considers calling the whitehouse and asking to speak to the president. |
| 06:30.36 | io_error | Do you need the number? |
| 06:30.47 | jblack | nah. I'd google. |
| 06:31.49 | jblack | "Hi. I want to talk to the president. The global warming stuff is important, and I want him to know about it Right Now!" |
| 06:32.03 | io_error | +1 202 456 1414 |
| 06:32.22 | jameswf-home | I would not eat http://bp3.blogger.com/_x-JooYlANWA/RqZ4VKXT7hI/AAAAAAAAAnk/m8D_6kwcMk4/s1600-h/grapes+027.jpg |
| 06:32.46 | jblack | Oh YUCK |
| 06:32.47 | io_error | What is that, vomit pie? |
| 06:32.54 | jblack | green grape pie |
| 06:32.56 | jameswf-home | green grape pie |
| 06:33.17 | jameswf-home | google FAIL |
| 06:33.44 | jameswf-home | www.vpilf.com << google PASS |
| 06:33.48 | jameswf-home | :) |
| 06:34.21 | jblack | http://goodiesfirst.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/smokies.jpg |
| 06:34.28 | jblack | Man. pics like that could make me lose weight |
| 06:34.42 | *** join/#asterisk blogbasti (n=blogbast@calypso.planet-ic.de) |
| 06:35.52 | jblack | http://www.cellblock.com/gallery/xKnzoXYoZEgPKzlxCtjm-2.jpg |
| 06:36.10 | jameswf-home | looks like the opening sccene to a few war movies |
| 06:36.59 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, checkout time. Later all |
| 06:37.05 | jblack | don't go to images.google.com and search for "ugly food" |
| 06:37.15 | *** join/#asterisk ElSonico (n=tav@gprs-prointernet-ff696a00-81.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 06:39.23 | jblack | http://www.engrish.com//wp-content/uploads/2008/08/high-grade-puke.jpg |
| 06:39.32 | *** part/#asterisk Bryan[STLH] (n=Bryan@unaffiliated/stlhack) |
| 06:39.50 | io_error | You have to pay for high grade puke?! |
| 06:40.29 | felipex | is it possible to control tx and rx gain of a sip channel ? |
| 06:40.41 | io_error | Woohoo, a question! |
| 06:40.50 | jblack | felipex: hmmm |
| 06:41.09 | jblack | I don't think so, but i'm not sure. |
| 06:41.30 | felipex | jblack also with patches or something |
| 06:41.35 | jblack | You have to do it with the client, not with *. |
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| 06:41.40 | jameswf-home | Sarah Palins daughter === jail bait http://www.postchronicle.com/images/articles/bristol-palin_001.jpg |
| 06:42.05 | jblack | wait. palin is almost 45. how old is her kids? |
| 06:42.26 | jblack | are, not is |
| 06:43.15 | jblack | http://www.engrish.com//wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sucker-enters-inside.jpg |
| 06:43.31 | felipex | jblack the client is a grandstream 2000 |
| 06:44.08 | jameswf-home | oldest 16 |
| 06:44.37 | jblack | heh. 'it puts the rotion on its skin' |
| 06:45.03 | jblack | http://www.engrish.com//wp-content/uploads/2008/08/listen-to-mee.jpg |
| 06:45.19 | jblack | you gotta see that one |
| 06:45.45 | oilinki | jameswf-home: well seems like that girl in the picture has already got the fish |
| 06:47.47 | jameswf-home | http://dontcallmyboss.blogspot.com/2008/08/sarah-palin-naked.html |
| 06:48.25 | jblack | "Please do not Annoy, Torment, Pester, Molest, Worry, Badger Harry, Harass, Hackle, Persecute, Irk, Rag, Vex, Bother, Tease, Nettle, Tantalize or Ruffle the Animal.' |
| 07:06.19 | ManxPower | I can feel the internet groaning under the load of a zillion people looking at high res gustav images. |
| 07:07.32 | jblack | it's boring so far. |
| 07:08.17 | *** join/#asterisk XnOSX (n=XnOSX@212.145.172.127) |
| 07:13.14 | ManxPower | Speak for yourself. |
| 07:13.32 | ManxPower | We have tho people up here at the campground that evacuated from New Orleans. |
| 07:13.42 | *** join/#asterisk gr0mit (n=tim@81.187.32.146) |
| 07:13.42 | ManxPower | tho? two |
| 07:14.07 | ManxPower | looks like it will get a glancing blow from the wind perspective |
| 07:14.50 | ManxPower | The pumps can pump out 1" of water the first hour, and 1/2 inch of water each additional hour. |
| 07:16.19 | ManxPower | 6" - 12" of rain expected in New Orleans -- but the city has flooding any time it rains. |
| 07:16.25 | jblack | there's something from 6-18 inches of rain. |
| 07:16.27 | jblack | yeah |
| 07:16.41 | jblack | I don't think that's a serious issue either. |
| 07:17.04 | jblack | 15' sea rise. I don't remember how tall the levees are. If they hold, it'll be boring |
| 07:17.08 | ManxPower | Storm surge is what they are worried about. That's what caused the Katrina disaster. |
| 07:17.10 | *** join/#asterisk mbranca (n=matteo@81.208.92.210) |
| 07:17.51 | ManxPower | The worst of it looks like it will be mostly in the Huge ass swamp between Baton Rouge and Lafayette |
| 07:18.09 | jblack | know what this likely means, right? |
| 07:18.26 | oilinki | it's going to rain here soon. wind 5 minutes before is a good early warning feature. |
| 07:18.27 | jblack | The next big hurricane, people will be back to ignoring the mayor, and of course the levees will fail then. |
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| 07:18.45 | ManxPower | There will be one really tore up huge ass swamp between Baton Rouge and Lafayette? |
| 07:19.13 | jblack | aren't swamps already mostly under water? |
| 07:19.45 | ManxPower | jblack: Well, I-10 goes thru that swamp, all elevated above the water, but not all that far above the water. |
| 07:20.11 | ManxPower | I-10 being down would be a serious blow to east-west shipping in the south. |
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| 07:20.30 | jblack | I don't see how I10 will be damaged much from a flood, and if it did, it's just a highway and can be fixed in six months |
| 07:20.59 | jblack | I'm admittedly naive, though |
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| 07:22.24 | ManxPower | jblack: The I-10 twin span brige of I-10 heading east of New Orleans was destroyed in two places by Katrina. The have a temp girder structure with asphalt on it. The damn thing. The storm surge came up from under the sections of the road and pushed them off their supports. |
| 07:22.56 | jblack | Yeah. I can see bridges would be a bigger pain. |
| 07:23.00 | ManxPower | They are actually building a new bridge designed to handle much higher storm surges. |
| 07:23.25 | jblack | But still, compared to all of downtown being underwater... losing a single highway is but a scratch |
| 07:23.46 | ManxPower | jblack: Um, the swamp takes about 45 -60 mins to drive across and all but a tiny portion IS a bridge. |
| 07:23.58 | jblack | Ok. Fine. |
| 07:24.01 | ManxPower | It is an utterly boring drive. |
| 07:24.05 | jblack | Save the damn highway, and let downtown go under. |
| 07:24.16 | jblack | Then what will you do with your highway, with nowhere to go to or from? |
| 07:24.18 | io_error | Move the damn highway, and let the swamp go under. |
| 07:24.32 | denon | move the town |
| 07:24.34 | denon | done deal |
| 07:24.36 | ManxPower | I'm just saying while the loss of property and people will be much less. There will still be significant long term impact. |
| 07:24.47 | denon | shoulda done it 3 years ago |
| 07:24.56 | jblack | Sure. It's not overnight. |
| 07:25.09 | io_error | Heh. I remember watching Katrina move in on somebody's webcam. |
| 07:25.12 | jblack | Should we move manhattan too? They're going to start having trouble in another 10 years. |
| 07:25.25 | denon | jblack: sure :) I'm not too fond of manhattan |
| 07:25.32 | io_error | jblack: No, New York City deserves to fall into the ocean. |
| 07:25.36 | denon | so many cranky people |
| 07:25.48 | ManxPower | But wetlands are what have protected that region for a very long time. They are finally starting to restore the wetlands (and some of the barrier islands) and therefore protect much of that part of the coast. |
| 07:26.41 | denon | ManxPower: the wetlands are natural, and the hurricane is natural .. I'd say whatever happens is part of the cycle |
| 07:27.08 | ManxPower | denon: but the lack of mississippi river flooding, which is what is killing the wetlands is not natural. |
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| 07:27.27 | jblack | people want water. |
| 07:27.40 | denon | well, I'd say it's all out of our hands at this point |
| 07:27.55 | drmessano | Hurricanes are natures way of saying "You have been naturally selected. kthxbye" |
| 07:28.02 | jblack | we're all so screwed. Our grand kids will be chasing their food down with bows and arrows |
| 07:28.12 | ManxPower | jblack: no, they want to build levies so they can control where the water goes. IIRC they have several projects to divert river water to various wetlands on a regular bases. |
| 07:28.26 | denon | if this turns out to be a big deal, seems like the people of new orleans should think twice (er, three times?) before settling back in to the same space |
| 07:28.32 | drmessano | I have the best answer |
| 07:28.38 | drmessano | Nuke New Orleans |
| 07:28.49 | jblack | Nah. We need the oil. |
| 07:28.59 | jblack | Washington, DC has no natural resources. Nuke that instead. |
| 07:29.00 | denon | why do we need jazz music for oil? |
| 07:29.00 | drmessano | Just blow the place up like an abandoned building |
| 07:29.07 | ManxPower | denon: drmessan then you would destroy like 1/4 of the shipping cabacity of the USA. |
| 07:29.26 | drmessano | Jazz Musicians have greasy hair |
| 07:29.29 | denon | ManxPower: you need the city center to support the dock? |
| 07:29.31 | jblack | We can't get the oil, if we radiate soil around it! |
| 07:29.43 | ManxPower | cabacity? capacity. /me fixes himself another drink |
| 07:29.51 | drmessano | jblack: Radiation makes the oil work harder... here, have some |
| 07:30.04 | xeet2 | lol |
| 07:30.17 | jblack | I'm amazed that so many people think a city can just be "moved" |
| 07:30.24 | ManxPower | denon: you don't. But there are many people that work in the port, you also have to maintain roads and rail lines into and out of NOLA |
| 07:30.34 | denon | jblack: well, it was wiped out once .. |
| 07:30.37 | jblack | There was a town here in PA named centralia. The coal underground caught on fire. |
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| 07:30.44 | denon | and they put it down in the same place again |
| 07:30.54 | jblack | So the government decided to move it.. which involved buying every bit of property there. |
| 07:30.58 | ManxPower | New Orleans was NOT wiped out once. Only about 1/4 of the city was destroyed. |
| 07:31.13 | denon | ManxPower: well, the way the residents talked .. |
| 07:31.52 | ManxPower | jblack: Southerners have a pathological desire to not experience other places. |
| 07:32.10 | denon | it would involve moving all the cars in their front lawn :) |
| 07:32.14 | drmessano | * New_Orleans (n=zomg@category5.org) Quit (Flood) |
| 07:32.16 | ManxPower | There were many people in New Orleans that never have left their neighborhood |
| 07:32.24 | jblack | These guys are talking about moving them 15 miles, not 1500. |
| 07:33.02 | denon | just seems like common sense .. don't live below sea level next to the sea |
| 07:33.13 | drmessano | Lets get a bunch of trash from Jersey and fill in New Orleans.. then we can build a new city on top of it and call it "New Trenton" |
| 07:33.22 | ManxPower | Last I heard, if more than a certian percentage of residents came back then the city would provide services to that area, otherwise it would be bought (emminient domain) and turned into a park |
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| 07:33.29 | jblack | denon: Where do you live? |
| 07:33.41 | simon_ca | Hi. Just grabbed 1.4.21.2 as an upgrade from 1.2. Docs seem to suggest zaptel shoudl still work in 1.4, but can;t find any reference in the build for the chan driver.... |
| 07:33.43 | denon | jblack: why, you want to pick on whatever natural disaster we have? |
| 07:33.50 | jblack | something like that, yeah |
| 07:34.01 | denon | jblack: was a nice catch, checking arin on my proxy location earlier.. |
| 07:34.03 | ManxPower | denon: That is why most of the wealthy areas escaped most flooding -- they built in the higher areas,. |
| 07:34.53 | ManxPower | I would actually prefer a hurricane over and earthquake or a tornado, at least you know the storm is coming,. |
| 07:35.02 | denon | jblack: I'm in Minnesota .. and yeah, it snows.. but we just dig it out and move on |
| 07:35.12 | jblack | dude. my ex-wife is from minnesota. |
| 07:35.13 | denon | we have tornados, but they're like 1mi wide, and a few long .. |
| 07:35.22 | denon | and when they're over, we all pitch in and help |
| 07:35.25 | jblack | I take that as proof that there is something fundamentally wrong with everyone in that state. |
| 07:35.29 | denon | but fema doesn't show up with the sample sack |
| 07:35.54 | ManxPower | You're just doing whatever it is you are doing, maybe sleeping or shopping or having breakfast or taking the kids to school and then WHAT THE FUCK AN EARTHQUAKE!?!?! |
| 07:35.56 | jblack | I hope nobody takes this the wrong way, but minnesotans know how to take care of themselves. |
| 07:36.42 | denon | jblack: you mean, survival, by her leaving you? |
| 07:36.58 | jblack | oh, that was a change of subject. |
| 07:37.02 | ManxPower | any sort of disaster screws with your head |
| 07:37.06 | jblack | the ex was an asside. |
| 07:37.17 | denon | I figured you still thought there was something fundimentally wrong with me :) |
| 07:37.26 | jblack | There's gotta be. |
| 07:37.31 | denon | fundamentally |
| 07:37.56 | denon | why? because I live where there are no forrest fires, hurricanes or earthquakes? |
| 07:38.09 | jblack | you keep changing it back and forth! |
| 07:38.19 | denon | we call that logic :) |
| 07:38.24 | jblack | Back to you, because you live in a place where in 5 years, heating oil will cost you $6 a gallon |
| 07:38.45 | denon | bring it on |
| 07:38.47 | denon | I have geothermal |
| 07:38.57 | denon | costs me about $18/mo to heat and cool my house |
| 07:39.05 | jblack | You, sure. |
| 07:39.19 | ManxPower | denon: where do you live? |
| 07:39.35 | denon | ManxPower: you're slippin, I just told jblack :) |
| 07:39.43 | jblack | Why does anyone want to live in a place that gets snow measured in feet? |
| 07:39.55 | ManxPower | denon: I'm beyond toasted and edging into burnt. |
| 07:40.04 | jblack | What you guys going to do if you get 5 snow storms that plop 8 feet each? |
| 07:40.09 | denon | jblack: it's no big deal .. you clean the driveway, and it's live as usual |
| 07:40.18 | denon | it's not like little house on the prairie or something |
| 07:40.19 | ManxPower | Ah. |
| 07:40.31 | jblack | That bitch is such a liar |
| 07:40.32 | denon | jblack: same thing as always, we've got a fleet of plows |
| 07:40.40 | oilinki | howto make asterisk call to all terminals when several devices are using only 1 account? |
| 07:40.41 | denon | clear the road and go |
| 07:40.46 | denon | ManxPower: Minnesota |
| 07:41.09 | denon | oilinki: give each their own account, then dial SIP/1&SIP/2&SIP/3 |
| 07:41.25 | jblack | Ok, so aside from the Brual cold in the winters, and little to 12 feet of snow a year, Minnesota is safe. |
| 07:41.40 | denon | jblack: people fly here for the snow .. |
| 07:41.43 | denon | it can't be that bad |
| 07:41.45 | jblack | Based on denon's experience, we should move all 300 million americans into St. Paul. |
| 07:41.57 | oilinki | denon: like a ring group. is that the only way? as I would like to make my terminals to use only one account |
| 07:41.59 | ManxPower | Yes. The Syndrome of the North! They are too proud of their hard work and sacrifice to ever consider to move to some place where it's too warm for frozen water to fall from the sky. |
| 07:42.05 | ManxPower | <-- grew up in Michigan |
| 07:42.12 | denon | jblack: nooo .. in fact, I'm glad that people have all these misconceptions about winter here .. keeps our state free of the lameness you see so many places |
| 07:42.14 | drmessano | Minnesota has one thing going for it |
| 07:42.24 | drmessano | Yet another state between me and Canada |
| 07:42.27 | denon | oilinki: well, it's a sensible way |
| 07:42.56 | denon | drmessano: yeah, you'll notice there aren't many people in northern mn .. we like to keep a buffer |
| 07:43.05 | ManxPower | Any state that elects Jessie Ventura for Governor has got to have something going for it! |
| 07:43.11 | denon | hehe |
| 07:43.20 | jblack | Hey. i've lived in chicago. And you guys know my mouth well enough to estimate how much snow I shoveled during boot camp and school. |
| 07:43.22 | denon | our gov (old gov, anyway) can beat up your gov! |
| 07:43.46 | denon | jblack: who shovels? that's what bobcats are for.. |
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| 07:44.00 | ManxPower | I moved to someplace civilized like Los Angeles as soon as I could. |
| 07:44.06 | drmessano | ManxPower: Heathen.. That's Jesse "The Body" Ventura |
| 07:44.08 | jblack | In boot camp, they didn't see a need for snowcats. |
| 07:44.12 | drmessano | Get it right, please |
| 07:44.14 | denon | wow, that's topic material .. civilized, LA |
| 07:44.32 | jblack | no shit. |
| 07:44.47 | ManxPower | denon: they have all the problems of NYC or Chicago, but the weather is better, |
| 07:44.50 | jblack | what part of LA is civilized? |
| 07:44.56 | denon | perhaps he never had to drive while in LA :) |
| 07:44.58 | jblack | I lived there too, and I missed it. |
| 07:45.04 | ManxPower | Toronto is almost my dream city -- if it wasn't for the winters, |
| 07:45.54 | jblack | I like Vancouver more than Toronto. |
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| 07:45.58 | denon | I'm perfectly happy with Minnesota .. but, please continue to spread F.U.D about the winters here. . keeps things peaceful |
| 07:46.32 | ManxPower | denon: I live on the top of a mountain in Alabama -- it's peaceful here too. |
| 07:46.33 | jblack | Too late. The invitations are out. You're about to get more neighbors. |
| 07:46.40 | denon | ManxPower: nod |
| 07:46.53 | denon | noooo .. it snows 20 feet here, and we have no shovels! |
| 07:47.00 | denon | we stay in the house all winter, hoping for spring |
| 07:47.04 | jblack | but everyone has a bobcat, right? |
| 07:47.15 | denon | yeah, but they just roar a lot |
| 07:47.23 | denon | they don't do anything but eat your kittens |
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| 07:47.34 | ManxPower | I want a Pixie Bob |
| 07:47.38 | ManxPower | (cat) |
| 07:47.44 | drmessano | "How about it, Mean Gene?" |
| 07:48.02 | denon | drmessano: you know that Mean Gene has his own burger joints? |
| 07:48.06 | denon | I ate at one once .. |
| 07:48.33 | drmessano | Nice |
| 07:48.43 | denon | yeah .. pretty decent food |
| 07:48.54 | denon | especially considering it was attached to a gas station |
| 07:49.00 | drmessano | Jesse Ventura was so hardcore, he refused to be relected.. he took the voters in a cage match |
| 07:49.16 | jblack | So it should be getting bad in N.o. right about now. |
| 07:49.25 | drmessano | SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM |
| 07:49.29 | jblack | Whre's all the weathermen, flapping at the end of their safety ropes? |
| 07:50.04 | denon | jblack: safely in a studio, with a commercial fan blowing their hair, and a webcam image as the backdrop |
| 07:50.05 | drmessano | The winds are really.................................................windy right now |
| 07:50.24 | denon | "no frank, put the fan on the other side .. the wind is from the left!" |
| 07:51.44 | jblack | wtf? Jerry Lewis still has that telethon? |
| 07:51.48 | jblack | Isn't he dead? |
| 07:51.57 | denon | not until you call |
| 07:52.02 | denon | he's waiting for your pledge |
| 07:52.11 | denon | call now! operators are standing by |
| 07:52.24 | jblack | I's on right now. There's cheerleaders on. |
| 07:52.59 | jblack | screaming "M D A! M D A!" |
| 07:53.14 | jblack | Oh, UDA |
| 07:53.18 | denon | better than "Jerry! Jerry!" |
| 07:53.29 | denon | (who was the chicagoian? I) |
| 07:53.34 | denon | I'm sure you'd get it |
| 07:53.43 | jblack | I lived there. |
| 07:53.51 | jblack | Anyone with a TV know's that that means. :) |
| 07:54.04 | denon | I was hoping it was isolated to people who lived there .. |
| 07:54.08 | denon | and the occasional wanker who's up late |
| 07:54.44 | jblack | I haven't lived in chicago in a long, long time. |
| 07:54.59 | denon | I hear it's .. windyh |
| 07:55.01 | denon | -h |
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| 07:55.10 | denon | doesn't seem windy in ord |
| 07:55.18 | denon | that's about the extent of my time in chicago .. in and out |
| 07:55.23 | denon | occasional meeting |
| 07:55.38 | jblack | oh cool. deadoraliveinfo.com |
| 07:55.58 | jblack | Whoah. He was born before the great depression. |
| 07:56.12 | denon | springer? |
| 07:56.18 | denon | I thought he caused it |
| 07:56.38 | jblack | Jerry lewis. |
| 07:56.47 | denon | nod :) |
| 07:56.56 | jblack | Whoah. Claude Levi-Strauss is still alive |
| 07:57.26 | denon | ah well |
| 07:57.32 | denon | Im gonna go watch an episode of zorro |
| 07:57.36 | denon | and find some sleep |
| 07:59.30 | jblack | Whoah. Mike wallace was born in 1918 |
| 08:01.23 | jblack | wtf. Is this in scranton? |
| 08:01.48 | jblack | nm |
| 08:10.01 | oilinki | haa. found an shortfilm 'what happen to USA during the GWB presidency' http://ircpics.com/?p=showpix&showpix=24400 :) |
| 08:10.49 | jblack | What? Someone wacking themselves in the balls? |
| 08:12.22 | oilinki | jep |
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| 08:45.04 | jblack | Wow. Right on the top of the city. |
| 08:45.19 | jblack | a bullseye, from 4,000 miles away |
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| 08:57.05 | phpboy | has anybody here played around with SIPP before? |
| 08:57.16 | phpboy | yes, that's supposed to be a double P |
| 09:04.16 | jblack | nope. |
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| 09:28.42 | MikeJ | phpboy: sure |
| 09:31.40 | DarKnesS_WolF | i have a very strange problem sip phone ----> internet 512 download / 128 upload -----> asterisk -----> internet 512/128 ------> sip provider all the way G729 and when i make the call i got the ping time, increasing up to 3000ms ,,, any idea what might be the problem . |
| 09:34.30 | jblack | nope. |
| 09:35.10 | DarKnesS_WolF | i don't think it is bandwidth issue |
| 09:35.27 | DarKnesS_WolF | 512/128 should be able to run 2 G729 calls as i assume. |
| 09:40.16 | oilinki | DarKnesS_WolF: what are you using as sip phone? |
| 09:40.44 | DarKnesS_WolF | oilinki: snom |
| 09:40.49 | DarKnesS_WolF | and also with xlite |
| 09:40.57 | DarKnesS_WolF | xlit not G729 fore sure |
| 09:41.10 | DarKnesS_WolF | but there is somekind of free version of firefly with g729 as i recall |
| 09:41.21 | DarKnesS_WolF | but anyway i did multi testing iax/ sip and all the same what might be wrong ? |
| 09:42.18 | oilinki | DarKnesS_WolF: I had some problems with qualify=yes with my client. I'm not sure what was the exact problem, but when I changed qualify=10000 the problem was gone |
| 09:43.22 | oilinki | first the console showed increased qualify times and it ended up so that the terminal was not reacable anymore |
| 09:43.24 | DarKnesS_WolF | oilinki: i have qualify=5000 |
| 09:43.46 | DarKnesS_WolF | oilinki: no the console showes a very good qualify time |
| 09:43.56 | DarKnesS_WolF | but when i start making the call everything goes down . |
| 09:44.02 | oilinki | DarKnesS_WolF: these could be unrelated problems.. and if the console says so, most likely that's not the problem |
| 09:44.10 | DarKnesS_WolF | and a delay of 3 secounds of the sound |
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| 09:51.46 | oilinki | is the ping (from sip phone?) time long for all the legs or just to the voip-server? I just wonder if your router/firewall is doing tricks? |
| 09:53.45 | DarKnesS_WolF | oilinki: mmmm i can't ping from the phone but from the PC only to the voip server |
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| 10:25.29 | obnauticus | What protocol does VoIP over DOCSIS normally run as |
| 10:25.33 | obnauticus | like comcast's "digital voice:" |
| 10:25.44 | obnauticus | if it's sip i will shit bricks. |
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| 10:27.47 | Uatec | Evening |
| 10:29.24 | bbryant | obnauticus: it's a weird setup, the calls never go on the internet |
| 10:29.30 | bbryant | I don't know what protocol it uses though |
| 10:29.40 | obnauticus | :| |
| 10:30.12 | obnauticus | bbryant I was wondering because I don't want to buy an FXS card |
| 10:31.15 | bbryant | oh, well I don't think there's a way to figure out a sip uri |
| 10:31.59 | bbryant | so you're stuck trying some other solution |
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| 10:33.06 | Kevin` | hey, guy in #asterisk that knows about time-warner's telephone service? |
| 10:33.26 | obnauticus | Kevin` i just asked that |
| 10:33.29 | obnauticus | lol |
| 10:33.52 | Kevin` | yeah, i wanna know what he knows :) |
| 10:34.32 | obnauticus | bbryant don't make Kevin` get the phone book |
| 10:37.11 | bbryant | Kevin`: I don't know much |
| 10:37.22 | bbryant | I was just curious one day and did a google search |
| 10:37.46 | obnauticus | bbryant that sounds dirty. |
| 10:37.57 | bbryant | haha |
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| 10:42.53 | knarfly | how does dundi actually work...or maybe I should ask how do I use dundi...? |
| 10:43.53 | WimpMan | knarfly: If you expect an answer you should at least tell us what you want to use it for. |
| 10:44.29 | knarfly | if I understand it right I can use it to make phone calls...to other people's PSTN lines |
| 10:45.26 | knarfly | and in return for using it I allow my server to join the network so someone might use it to connect to some PSTN line in my area code |
| 10:46.04 | knarfly | ~dundi |
| 10:46.13 | jbot | i guess dundi is at http://www.dundi.com. DUNDi, an optional Asterisk component, is a distributed, decentralized peer to peer network that provides routes to PSTNs between peers on the same DUNDi network. |
| 10:46.25 | knarfly | ~book |
| 10:46.28 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 10:48.15 | WimpMan | still struggles to get the type of number issue sorted :-( |
| 10:52.22 | WimpMan | Has anyone come up with a solution to lookup local numbers? |
| 10:53.44 | ph8 | can anyone suggest how i can check to see if i can use a sip phone with asterisk from behind a university firewall? |
| 10:54.32 | WimpMan | Just try it? |
| 10:56.07 | ph8 | i'm not actually back at uni for a while |
| 10:56.11 | ph8 | but the firewall is anal |
| 10:56.13 | ph8 | massively so |
| 10:56.21 | ph8 | when i say check sorry i mean, get around it |
| 11:06.19 | WimpMan | BTW: Is there some documentation on the switch statement available somewhere? I.e. more than just the syntax? |
| 11:11.03 | jblack | what do you mean "lookup local numbers" |
| 11:11.52 | jblack | ph8: You'll have to wait till you get back. Look for a range of ports that you can get through. If you can't find them, then use pptp to tunnel your way out, or get a vpn service from callwithus. |
| 11:12.19 | WimpMan | Wehn a user dials a local number, i.e. without areacode, how do you use it with switch, which usually expects unformatted international format? |
| 11:12.40 | WilliamK | jblack, surprised you're still awake |
| 11:12.42 | WilliamK | :) |
| 11:12.46 | jblack | can't sleep. |
| 11:12.52 | WilliamK | me neither |
| 11:13.00 | WilliamK | furious over Nagios |
| 11:13.03 | jblack | pops more aspirin |
| 11:13.09 | jblack | I've never had a need for switch. |
| 11:13.36 | jblack | Can't you just set up a extension pattern for local numbers, that goto with the proper country/areacode prepended? |
| 11:14.05 | WimpMan | Goto won't work with overlap dial. |
| 11:16.29 | WimpMan | ATM I export the numbers in both local, national and international format, but that's just wrong and will cause problems with peers not within the same area. |
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| 11:19.21 | existenz | hello, how can I run the debug |
| 11:21.59 | jblack | asterisk -r |
| 11:22.09 | jblack | huh, i didn't know that iax2 kind of supports encryption |
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| 11:23.01 | ZenBSDi | [TK], you around amigo? |
| 11:23.12 | WimpMan | I think "kind of" hits the spot. But it's a start. |
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| 11:25.08 | jblack | It's aes128. I'm still looking for what the weaknesses are |
| 11:25.58 | WimpMan | IIRC the call setup isn't encrypted. But I might mix it up. |
| 11:27.27 | jblack | the call setup is encrypted too. |
| 11:27.46 | jblack | Looks like one problem is a nonchanging salt. |
| 11:28.52 | ZenBSDi | Encrypted calling with Asterisk? |
| 11:29.11 | jblack | yeah. between * servers, of course. |
| 11:29.17 | ZenBSDi | f'n sweet! |
| 11:29.48 | ZenBSDi | I'm sure there are some porn rings that would like that :) |
| 11:30.42 | knarfly | not to mention Osama bin Laden |
| 11:31.09 | ZenBSDi | I don't care about Obama Biden Laden. I'm thinking of the freedom of porn! |
| 11:31.31 | knarfly | yes, porn is much more exciting |
| 11:33.34 | existenz | do I need to restart asterisk after editing sip.conf |
| 11:33.40 | ZenBSDi | yes |
| 11:33.44 | ZenBSDi | well.. not really |
| 11:33.49 | tzafrir_laptop | ZenBSDi, set up an openvpn tunnel between the servers? |
| 11:33.58 | ZenBSDi | asterisk -vvvvr and then type sip reload |
| 11:34.15 | tzafrir_laptop | ZenBSDi, even with ZRTP and such, you can't hide the fact that a call took place |
| 11:34.17 | jblack | I doubt 128 bits can keep the nsa out for more than a few hours. |
| 11:34.34 | ZenBSDi | tzafrir_laptop, I think asterisk has a development encryption setup |
| 11:35.01 | kaldemar | existenz: if you change the bind address or port, then yes. otherwise a reload is enough. |
| 11:35.02 | jblack | The latency on openvpn is pretty bad. |
| 11:35.04 | ZenBSDi | jblack, you are talking about * encrypting and not just a vpn/ssh/openswan/? |
| 11:35.13 | jblack | I'm talking about * itself. |
| 11:35.28 | jblack | iax2 has a hidden encryption option that uses aes128 |
| 11:35.37 | ZenBSDi | :) |
| 11:35.46 | existenz | kaldemar, I am checking in the logs whether my sip tries to connect to asterisk, but I cannot see any trace, is it possible that it is being blocked by the firewall? |
| 11:36.04 | ZenBSDi | I'm gonna have to test that next week. I'm working on a client right now and need to learn IAX registering =p |
| 11:36.06 | kaldemar | of course it's possible. |
| 11:36.48 | existenz | kaldemar, how can I add an exception for it? |
| 11:36.53 | ZenBSDi | existenz, on some home systems cause our ISP's aren't that friendly.. if you're trying to register with a SIP provider you might have to put in the sip.conf under your providers info nat=yes |
| 11:37.01 | knarfly | existenz, is your SIP phone outside of your LAN or on it? |
| 11:37.09 | existenz | knarfly, spa3102, inside |
| 11:37.33 | knarfly | and your trying to register to a SIP server on your LAN or outside of it? |
| 11:37.39 | kaldemar | existenz: depends on the firewall you're using. but if you're talking about ports, asterisk uses 5060 for sip and 10000-20000 for rtp by default. |
| 11:38.37 | existenz | kaldemar, ah, in the sip config it is 5061 |
| 11:39.05 | kaldemar | well then you're using 5061. the client should be configured with the same port. |
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| 11:39.46 | jblack | Oh, in addition to openvpn, you can look at pptp. It has light encryption, and doesn't suffer from the latency. |
| 11:40.44 | jblack | which is strong enough to keep out non-national governments. |
| 11:43.59 | existenz | kaldemar, how can I allow an ip on the lan to connect to asterisk? using iptables? |
| 11:45.28 | kaldemar | iptables -I INPUT -s <ip> -p udp --dport 5061 -j ACCEPT |
| 11:45.37 | kaldemar | iptables -I INPUT -s <ip> -p udp --dport 10000:20000 -j ACCEPT |
| 11:46.16 | kaldemar | but check your firewall settings first before adding those rules. |
| 11:47.29 | tzafrir_laptop | are RTP packets considered "related" to a SIP stream? |
| 11:47.43 | tzafrir_laptop | Does Linux have a sip connection tracking module? |
| 11:48.34 | existenz | kaldemar, now they're connected :) |
| 11:48.55 | existenz | kaldemar, but it doesn't show that in the sip debug, shall I set it more verbose? |
| 11:49.41 | kaldemar | yes, if it's 0 at the moment. |
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| 11:51.52 | Blackvel | hi. how do I set for asterisk 1.4.21.2 march=i586 /PROC settings? makeopts? Do I have to pass this option to configure or similar? |
| 11:52.03 | existenz | kaldemar, how can I change the verbosity? |
| 11:54.14 | Blackvel | existenz: of cli in general? -vvcv at asterisk startup or -vvvr when you reconnect |
| 11:55.32 | kaldemar | or set verbose <level> in cli. level is a number, 10 is fine. |
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| 11:56.38 | knarfly | existenz, use more v's in your command line....I usually do asterisk -vvvvvvc and it dumps just about everything |
| 11:56.57 | existenz | I see |
| 11:57.04 | Blackvel | what files does configure create? makeopts? |
| 11:58.21 | tzafrir_laptop | among others |
| 11:58.30 | tzafrir_laptop | find . -name \*.in |
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| 11:58.50 | tzafrir_laptop | all the .in files are templates for configure |
| 12:00.18 | Blackvel | tzafrir_laptop: is the *new* way to pass march/proc option to configure? 1.2 supported to set the march option in Makefile |
| 12:00.37 | Blackvel | it seems to be set in makeopts |
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| 12:02.17 | Blackvel | maybe I confuse it with zaptel make |
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| 12:05.50 | knarfly | I need some help with terminology...a VOIP terminator will allow me to receive or send calls only? |
| 12:07.41 | ZenBSDi | This sucks |
| 12:08.56 | ZenBSDi | Alright, lets see if anyone has an answer to this. I use callwithus as my IAX provider. I have 3 DIDs with them. How can I find out what is the phone number the outside person dialed to reach me if all 3 dids are attached to the same IAX account? |
| 12:11.25 | gr0mit | should be the destination number |
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| 12:12.30 | ph8 | jblack: thx |
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| 12:28.40 | existenz | knarfly, what does the unmonitred status mean? |
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| 12:31.19 | knarfly | can't say...where are your finding this? |
| 12:31.54 | Blackvel | is there any manual what build= options I can pass to configure? tried pentium which sets build_platform to i586-pc-none. is this fine? |
| 12:33.50 | existenz | knarfly, sip show peer name |
| 12:34.41 | existenz | [Sep 1 15:33:18] NOTICE[2288]: chan_sip.c:13885 handle_request_invite: Call from 'pstn' to extension 's' rejected because extension not found. |
| 12:34.55 | existenz | Why rejects the call, aren't all incoming calls redirected to s? |
| 12:35.06 | knarfly | sorry, I'm not sure what that means other than it's unmonitored |
| 12:35.43 | knarfly | check for typos...that's usually the mistake I encounter |
| 12:36.09 | existenz | knarfly, Name/username Host Dyn Nat ACL Port Status |
| 12:36.09 | existenz | pstn/pstn 10.0.0.10 D 5060 Unmonitored |
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| 12:39.30 | knarfly | can you pastebin your sip.conf and the incoming portion of your extensions.conf? |
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| 12:43.45 | kaldemar | existenz: asterisk can monitor sip clients' reachability, when it says Unmonitored, the functionality is not in use. you can enable it with the qualify parameter in sip.conf. |
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| 13:06.24 | existenz | thank you all |
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| 13:11.53 | existenz | Is it possible to play mp3 files for musiconhold? |
| 13:13.34 | bbryant | existenz: if you install the mp3 format from the asterisk addons repo |
| 13:16.01 | anonymouz666 | please don't. format_mp3 is good to dump core. |
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| 13:23.05 | Alton2 | I thought the recommendation was that you try each and every MP3 to make sure it didn't cause any problem, |
| 13:23.16 | Alton2 | something about how some of them are encoded in such a manner as to cause a crash. |
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| 13:33.37 | jblack | Any Ontarians present? |
| 13:38.32 | existenz | brodiem, when I run the playback command, the sound files sound with lots of echoes and unclear |
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| 13:53.56 | Uatec | Hello there. |
| 13:54.28 | Uatec | I know a few voip providers, but i'm looking for a few recomendations in addition to what i've found on google so far. |
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| 13:54.47 | thomas | Hola! |
| 13:54.56 | Uatec | We're an SME with about 25 people, in the UK. |
| 13:55.09 | thomas | "an"? |
| 13:55.11 | thomas | ups.. |
| 13:55.28 | Uatec | lol |
| 13:55.34 | Uatec | *a* SME :P |
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| 13:55.44 | thomas | .-) |
| 13:55.55 | Uatec | I'd quite like to find a provider where they let you make as many concurrent calls as you like, not one that still clings on to the archaich metaphor of "lines" |
| 13:55.59 | Uatec | any suggestions? |
| 13:59.45 | jblack | I wish polycoms showed how long one was on the phone. |
| 14:00.12 | jblack | uatec: Most every bill-by-minute provider lets you make/receive as many concurrent calls as you like. |
| 14:00.52 | jblack | i'm certain that's the case with teliax and callwithus. I can check diamondcard and voipstreet later if you like. |
| 14:01.53 | jblack | as for why "unlimited" plans limit concurrent calls, it's because bandwidth isn't free. |
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| 14:07.02 | flambers | does anyone here run asterisk on freebsd ? ;-) |
| 14:07.10 | florz | "an SME" is perfectly correct, BTW ... |
| 14:07.12 | jblack | freebsd still exists/ |
| 14:07.46 | flambers | jblack: what os do you use ? |
| 14:08.39 | jblack | Linux. |
| 14:08.58 | flambers | what distribuition ? :-) |
| 14:09.01 | jblack | Ubuntu |
| 14:09.10 | flambers | whith asterisk? |
| 14:09.14 | jblack | yup |
| 14:09.33 | flambers | it work fine ? |
| 14:09.39 | jblack | yup |
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| 14:13.38 | existenz | I have some problems with the playback of the files, the playback isn't quite clear |
| 14:13.45 | existenz | what might be the problem |
| 14:14.38 | jblack | isn't quite clear isn't quite specific. |
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| 14:15.46 | jblack | your speakerphone could be too loud. The source audio could be muddled. You could be using ilbc. You may not have enough bandwidth. You may not have enough cpu if you're transcoding and doing a lot of calls. The file could be in french. |
| 14:16.30 | jblack | Echo cancellelation may be causing a mess. The audio on the file could be too low. If pri, txgain may be too low or high. if you're calling in, rxgain may be too low or too high. |
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| 14:16.46 | jblack | Your hearing may be going out (get it checked!) Your boss is a perfectionist. |
| 14:17.12 | jblack | But my bet? A solar storm is distorting the magnetic field in the speaker you're listening to. |
| 14:17.20 | jblack | heads off for breakfast |
| 14:17.36 | hi365 | anyone using hylafax with |
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| 14:18.06 | hi365 | anyone doing mail2fax with hylafax using html email? |
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| 14:36.13 | existenz | jblack, it makes lots of echoes and very slow |
| 14:36.38 | existenz | jblack, the sound MusicOnHold is very clear, not the Playlack's |
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| 14:51.25 | sacitec | ~centos52bug |
| 14:51.26 | jbot | [~centos52bug] There is a bug compiling Zaptel up to 1.4.11/1.2.26 on CentOS/RHEL 5.2: error in xpp/xdefs.h. Workaround: uncheck "xpp" (Astribank) driver in menuselect. Fixed in SVN. Patches: http://bugs.digium.com/12889, or trouble compiling x86_64 packages? Report a bug to CentOS! ".i386 packages should not satisfy dependencies for .x86_64 packages." |
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| 15:17.29 | zamba | how do i set up a trunk between two asterisks? |
| 15:17.34 | zamba | IAX is the way to go? |
| 15:19.46 | sacitec | iax or sip |
| 15:20.18 | zamba | but iax works better in nat environments, because it's only using one single connection for both signalling and data, right? |
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| 15:21.33 | kaldemar | zamba: yes, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+-+dual+servers |
| 15:22.02 | tzafrir_laptop | zamba, IAX has an atvantage if you have multiple concurrent calls, as it will share packets among them |
| 15:22.26 | tzafrir_laptop | (multiple concurrent calls on the same IAX trunk) |
| 15:23.54 | zamba | so which one do you "suggest"? for now simplicity and easy setup is most important |
| 15:24.17 | existenz | tzafrir_laptop, the quality of the playback is very poor, it wasn't this way, it is very slow and echoes, what might be the problem? |
| 15:24.38 | [TK]D-Fender | zamba: Unless you seriously NEED IAX2 Trunk mode, go with SIP |
| 15:24.46 | zamba | [TK]D-Fender: ok |
| 15:24.58 | [TK]D-Fender | zamba: IAX2 has been known to have VQ issues |
| 15:25.12 | zamba | if both boxes are on static, public ip, there's no need for the register statement in sip.conf? |
| 15:25.20 | [TK]D-Fender | zamba: Correct |
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| 15:32.41 | existenz | what does {EXTEN} refer to |
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| 15:33.11 | jaytee | it's a male enhancement formula |
| 15:33.15 | heedly | existenz: it means you need to read the book. |
| 15:33.18 | heedly | ~book |
| 15:33.19 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
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| 15:35.40 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: doc/channelvariables.txt <------ |
| 15:36.00 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, the quality of the playback is very poor, it wasn't this way, it is very slow and echoes, what might be the problem? |
| 15:36.28 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: pof WHAT? |
| 15:36.50 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, Playback(greetings) sounds very slow and makes lots of echoes |
| 15:37.07 | sacitec | Hello, good morning, i'm working on an API with 'Originate' function. I'm declaring a variable on that function. What's the best choice for getting the value of that variable on my dial plan ? |
| 15:37.12 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: and what are you listening to it on? How does a normal call sound? |
| 15:37.31 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, You cannot understand it |
| 15:37.36 | [TK]D-Fender | acit IS a variable in your dialplan and you use it AS-IS |
| 15:37.58 | [TK]D-Fender | sacitec: it IS a variable in your dialplan and you use it AS-IS |
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| 15:41.02 | sacitec | mmm, but i mean , declare a p.e a global variable. You mean global predefined channel variable ? |
| 15:41.42 | [TK]D-Fender | sacitec: " a p.e a " - huh? |
| 15:41.49 | sacitec | for example |
| 15:41.50 | sacitec | sorry |
| 15:41.56 | sacitec | my bad english |
| 15:42.58 | sacitec | this is my Originate function -> http://pastebin.com/m7f00637d |
| 15:43.22 | sacitec | i'm trying to get the value of 'SUPPORT_GROUP_NUMS' on my dial plan |
| 15:44.22 | [TK]D-Fender | sacitec: ${'SUPPORT_GROUP_NUMS} |
| 15:44.38 | [TK]D-Fender | sacitec: ${SUPPORT_GROUP_NUMS} <- removed the quote |
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| 15:46.21 | sacitec | great |
| 15:46.41 | sacitec | thanks |
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| 15:55.12 | Blackvel | I have a segfault in chan_sip for 1.4.21.2 when a patton GW connects. http://pastebin.com/m730413a7. who may be able to tell if its an asterisk problem or maybe an RAM problem with my server (so far it worked o.k) |
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| 16:07.14 | hi365 | anyone doing mail2fax with hylafax using html email? |
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| 16:12.40 | jblack | blackvel: Compile * with debug symbols, and backtrace the core file. |
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| 16:31.09 | irieKen | Anyone know how I would set busybox to hold routing config for Asterisk? My routes keep getting wiped when the device gets restarted. |
| 16:32.59 | [TK]D-Fender | irieKen: Routing config? As in? |
| 16:33.17 | [TK]D-Fender | irieKen: And this has what to do with *? |
| 16:33.20 | irieKen | as in entries in when I run the route command. |
| 16:34.17 | irieKen | [TK]D-Fender: My AA50 won't let me access anything on the outside network, unless I create a route entry to allow me to do so. However, every time the box gets restarted, I am back at square 1. |
| 16:35.13 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, What does this log mean? http://pastebin.com/m1357a0ba the connection to the voip trunk worked? |
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| 16:36.59 | r0land | hello all |
| 16:36.59 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: pastebin the ENTIRE call please |
| 16:37.08 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: and sure doesn't look good to me. |
| 16:37.49 | r0land | any has an advice concerning my dial plan plz! exten => 08.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@callcentric1) |
| 16:38.11 | r0land | if i dial 08XXXXXx... instead of asterisk sending just the XXX values to @callcentric.. it sends "08" as well |
| 16:38.54 | [TK]D-Fender | r0land: Go read "doc/channelvariables.txt" |
| 16:39.10 | r0land | k thanks |
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| 16:39.33 | irieKen | So, no advice on the iptable/routing info getting wiped?:) |
| 16:41.43 | [TK]D-Fender | irieKen: Do you ask Ford about how to asphalt your driveway? It doesn't matter that you're going to park your F-150 on it, paving is their problem <- |
| 16:44.53 | joat | roland: ${EXTEN:2} |
| 16:45.52 | [TK]D-Fender | joat: Way to go... just HAND it to him... |
| 16:45.56 | irieKen | [TK]D-Fender: Actually, it's more along the lines of me calling ford and asking "Hey, the motor on my F150 keeps exploding every time I turn the engine off. How do I fix this?" |
| 16:46.18 | r0land | [TK]D-Fender exten => _08.,1,Set(number=${EXTEN:2}) <<-- (sending all digits except the first 2..) tht sounds about right ? |
| 16:46.31 | [TK]D-Fender | irieKen: This is not an OS support channel. The truck is fine, parking is YOUR problem. |
| 16:46.54 | [TK]D-Fender | r0land: No need to set a variable to hold part of it |
| 16:47.07 | r0land | i just want to hold the first 2 |
| 16:47.08 | [TK]D-Fender | r0land: exten => 08.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:2}@callcentric1) |
| 16:47.14 | r0land | oh ok |
| 16:47.15 | r0land | thanks :) |
| 16:47.16 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Obviously he doesn't get it.. next he's gonna come up with a metaphor having to do with the ashtray and wondering why we won't support his video card |
| 16:47.20 | irieKen | [TK]D-Fender: This is an AA50 specific problem; the usual solutions to the problem don't seem to hold tight. |
| 16:47.24 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: you can't MAKE people "get it" |
| 16:47.27 | [TK]D-Fender | r0land: You don't want to "hold" the first 2, you want to REMOVE them |
| 16:47.32 | r0land | merci [TK]D-Fender bonne nuit :) |
| 16:47.43 | *** part/#asterisk r0land (n=roland@193.227.191.91) |
| 16:47.46 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Yes I can. Electroshock therapy and other related skills have proven quite effective |
| 16:48.02 | [TK]D-Fender | r0land : Va t'ens tabarnac! |
| 16:48.12 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Didn't work well enough for John McCain |
| 16:48.46 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: They probably didn't torture him to talk, but rather to shut up :) |
| 16:48.58 | drmessano | lol |
| 16:49.01 | drmessano | good point |
| 16:49.25 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: And on that thought, McCain voted for acts that declare his own ordeal as NOT being torture. Hypocrit |
| 16:49.31 | irieKen | [TK]D-Fender: McCain doesn't talk much... but he also doesn't bother to have his people actually RESEARCH his VP candidates;) |
| 16:49.33 | jaytee | and his campaign manager and staff did such a great job of checking Palin's creds. rofl |
| 16:49.45 | drmessano | HA |
| 16:49.49 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Yup, she is being SHREDDED |
| 16:49.50 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 16:50.10 | [TK]D-Fender | the words "fucking worthless choice" come to mind... |
| 16:50.10 | jaytee | "I had a baby! um, no wait! I didn't have a baby!" |
| 16:50.13 | drmessano | She's under investigation, the whole thing with the baby is hysterical |
| 16:50.33 | jaytee | "I support Alaska's move to secede from the United States" |
| 16:50.41 | drmessano | She has less experience than Obama who McCain was grilling over having little experience |
| 16:50.41 | irieKen | drmessano: I wonder how illegal it is for her to claim to be the mother of her daughter's child. |
| 16:50.42 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: More that than. She's a successionist, and so many other fun things too! |
| 16:50.58 | jaytee | yeah, this is definitely someone I want in the second seat |
| 16:51.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: You means first... when the hot-air ruptures McCain's skull |
| 16:51.43 | drmessano | It's already buldging on one side ;) |
| 16:52.06 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, please! no nightmare scenarios...... i'm still not over the false rumors that Toto was getting back together :-) |
| 16:52.23 | [TK]D-Fender | I CELEBRATED her selection when I first read about it, and then these emerging details. It all but assures Obama/Biden the win in my books. |
| 16:52.39 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: You mean they're NOT!??!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:52.49 | drmessano | Yeah, when I heard ABBA got together for ONE song I was so pissed.. damn cockteases |
| 16:53.38 | jaytee | I felt sorry for the Ron Paul supporters who persistently went ahead and had their own pitiful convention. The only other people that showed up were hecklers from the Mike Gravel campaign. |
| 16:53.39 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1037&message=29077012&q=score&qf=m |
| 16:54.46 | jaytee | that's the deal you got a week or so ago, right? |
| 16:54.55 | Blackvel | jblack: didn't I do that? the point is, I have no idea why the memset fails and maybe someone of you knows what exactly that means in C language? |
| 16:55.10 | drmessano | delayed reaction? |
| 16:55.54 | WilliamK | geesh, almost every channel I'm in is talking about the kid |
| 16:56.02 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Yup. I sold the 50mm & 28mm for $200 and recouped the entire cost of purchase :D |
| 16:56.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: The Beercan alone I can probably get $300 for :) |
| 16:56.54 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, you lucky dog. I was messing with my old equipment only to find my Speedlight flash is kaput. |
| 16:57.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: my first purchase was for a Minolta 5000 w/ 50mm, and a 75-200. I sold both lenses for $150 already, am keeping the bacg, and selling the camera base and accessories as well. Turning a very tidy profit on all of this. |
| 16:57.45 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Plenty of Canon flashes around in the aftermarket |
| 16:58.04 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, the folks at Ritz Camera are getting nervous about the competition :-) |
| 16:58.32 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: oh? |
| 16:59.04 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Oh, that last purchase I told you about.. cost $50. So I made 100 on it already and got a bag out of it. |
| 16:59.14 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, they're worried that you'll nudge them out of of the majority market share for used equipment sales |
| 16:59.35 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: lol.I only do Minolta anyways.. I'm no threat :) |
| 16:59.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Got a link to them? |
| 16:59.56 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I'm looking for a 28-70 F2.8 original.... |
| 17:00.07 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Would rather not buy new as this is a KEEPER lens. |
| 17:00.12 | jaytee | http://www.ritzcamera.com/ |
| 17:01.02 | jaytee | hmmm, I don't see Minolta equipment listed on their page |
| 17:01.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: On my hit-list : http://www.adorama.com/TM70200MAX.html?searchinfo=tamron%20sony&item_no=5 |
| 17:02.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Yeah, Ritz has almost nothing for me... |
| 17:02.33 | Blackvel | trying to compile asterisk 1.2.30.2. got compile error on chan_zap (which I dont even need). how can I fix? Anyone with an idea? http://pastebin.com/m1ce0331f |
| 17:03.17 | jaytee | Blackvel, do make menuselect and deselect chan_zap then recompile |
| 17:03.27 | Blackvel | jaytee: not on asterisk 1.2. |
| 17:03.42 | jaytee | oh, well then upgrade :-) |
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| 17:03.58 | Blackvel | jaytee: 1.4 segfaults |
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| 17:04.02 | Blackvel | want to test 1.2.x |
| 17:04.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Blackvel: And what version of Zaptel do you have installed? |
| 17:04.45 | Blackvel | ehm |
| 17:04.55 | Blackvel | just downloaded asterisk 1.2.30 without zaptel? |
| 17:05.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Blackvel: What did you have installed BEFORE? |
| 17:06.53 | Blackvel | too bad. probably I should do then that or throw away chan_zap compilation |
| 17:09.43 | drmessano | HA |
| 17:09.53 | drmessano | Every now and then FARK has a keeper... |
| 17:09.56 | drmessano | [Fark] [NewsFlash] Bristol Palin pregnant with second child |
| 17:10.03 | drmessano | I LOL'ed |
| 17:10.59 | dandre | hello, |
| 17:11.42 | dandre | What sip-gateway would you recommend for a 5 to 8 handset installation? |
| 17:12.35 | WilliamK | drmessano, to be quite honest.... I don't feel bad for the baby's dad getting to wake up next to her everyday |
| 17:13.40 | drmessano | She is a hottie |
| 17:13.47 | drmessano | looks both ways |
| 17:14.18 | drmessano | She's in Alaska, where the age of consent is 16.. so YES, Sarah Palin's 17 yr old daughter is HOT and I can say that legally! |
| 17:14.52 | drmessano | and because I am in Georgia: "I wish she was MY sister!" |
| 17:15.46 | hi365 | cant imagain what drmessano does with his sisters |
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| 17:17.44 | drmessano | Well, nothing.. my sister is a skank.. BUT.. if she was Bristol Palin, I would be all like.. "hey sis, we don't hang out enough... naked" |
| 17:18.45 | hi365 | drmessano: thats sick! |
| 17:18.49 | hi365 | googles Bristol Palin |
| 17:18.59 | Blackvel | [TK]D-Fender: are you C coding experienced? how can a memset in chan_sip.c cause Asterisk to segfault? bad memory? |
| 17:19.07 | hi365 | hey... on second though... |
| 17:20.48 | florz | Blackvel: by writing to addresses where there is no memory? |
| 17:20.56 | drmessano | Ok, so she's 5 months pregnant.... All you have to do is move that bump to the side... |
| 17:21.09 | hi365 | dr |
| 17:21.20 | drmessano | Listen |
| 17:21.20 | hi365 | you sound expperienced |
| 17:21.24 | drmessano | ~drmessano |
| 17:21.26 | jbot | [drmessano] the leading cause of censorship in #asterisk, maybe a Doctor, not really a mess um a no..... The Doctor is accepting new patients, <drmessano> I am not a OB/GYN but I'll have a look anyway, and is earning his reputation daily |
| 17:21.34 | drmessano | I'll have a look anyway |
| 17:21.39 | [TK]D-Fender | dandre: Linksys SPA-8000 |
| 17:21.50 | Blackvel | ~centosbug |
| 17:21.51 | jbot | it has been said that centosbug is a problem with the 2.6.9 kernels prior to 2.6.9-42 If you can't compile zaptel, do a 'yum update', you're running an old kernel. If you HAVE to run an old kernel, the fix is "sed -i s/rw_lock/rwlock/ /usr/src/kernels/*/include/linux/spinlock.h |
| 17:21.58 | dandre | ok |
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| 17:22.45 | hi365 | what a mess |
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| 17:25.50 | cryptnix | anyone here have asterisk setup as a switch |
| 17:26.02 | cryptnix | as a sip provider etc. |
| 17:26.44 | [TK]D-Fender | cryptnix: Plenty |
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| 17:27.08 | [TK]D-Fender | cryptnix: And as a "provider". * is NOT a soft-switch, or a proxy however |
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| 17:43.05 | cryptnix | [TK]D-Fender: looking at using it as a soft-switch for a small isp operation i have |
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| 17:43.21 | kalel008 | hi |
| 17:44.11 | kalel008 | tell me somethig pls if i define my extensions in users.conf can i include the context in users.conf in extensions.conf |
| 17:44.37 | bbryant | kalel008: the context in users.conf is one in extensions.conf |
| 17:45.11 | kalel008 | i do not quite understand what you mean |
| 17:48.26 | [TK]D-Fender | cryptnix: Probably best off using SER in front and * as a back-end applications server |
| 17:48.58 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: You are making no sense. |
| 17:50.21 | rasterix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:52.13 | kalel008 | what i mean is can a |
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| 17:52.43 | kalel008 | i include a context that is in users.conf in my dialplan in extensions.conf |
| 17:52.54 | cryptnix | [TK]D-Fender: should i have any type of certs to provide such service? |
| 17:52.57 | rue_mohr | ah, thats how I get asterisk to call me at work if the smoke alarms are going off... |
| 17:53.16 | rasterix | i am not sure.. you can add to a context with [context](+) i believe |
| 17:53.59 | [TK]D-Fender | cryptnix: If you don't know the answer to that you probably shouldn't be looking at becoming an ITSP |
| 17:54.48 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: users.conf has little to do with extensions.conf |
| 17:54.53 | kalel008 | oh ok ill try it first then |
| 17:55.15 | kalel008 | but wy is it used for then |
| 17:55.37 | kalel008 | if i use the gui the extensions only show when it is in the users.conf |
| 17:55.44 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: users.conf is for defining DEVICES, extensions.conf is your DIALPLAN. there is no "include". They are not related much beyod your telling users.conf entries which DIALPLAN CONTEXT they are to use in extensions.conf |
| 17:56.17 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: extensions.conf has nothing to do with configuring PHONES. |
| 17:56.23 | Blackvel | [TK]D-Fender: works now with asterisk 1.2 (zaptel removed xpp, built zaptel before asterisk) |
| 17:56.28 | Blackvel | hmmm |
| 17:56.38 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: a phone is not an EXTENSION. Get that terminology out of your head |
| 17:57.14 | kalel008 | lol now i am confuzed |
| 17:57.29 | Blackvel | VERY interesting. asterisk-1.4.21.2 segfaults while asterisk-1.2.30.2 works when the Patton BRI box connects |
| 17:57.35 | rue_mohr | I'd like to have a number that can be dialed to access voicemail where the mailbox is automagically determined from the phone your calling on, I have the last peice, VoiceMailMain(${MBOX}, @default, s) but I dont see any clues on how to get the source of the current connection... (channel) |
| 17:57.47 | Blackvel | looks like I really have fill a bug :( |
| 17:58.10 | kalel008 | the phones gets a extension then right |
| 17:58.26 | rue_mohr | yes, I know I have to do channel/extension mapping |
| 17:58.29 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: No. |
| 17:58.35 | rue_mohr | not worried about that |
| 17:59.00 | rasterix | ${channel}? |
| 17:59.11 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: You define an account to AUTH calls from your devices. That is users.conf , sip.conf , etc |
| 17:59.15 | rasterix | ${CHANNEL}* |
| 17:59.21 | rue_mohr | hmm |
| 17:59.37 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: extensions.conf controls WHAT they are allowed to dial and what * will DO with a call it receives |
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| 18:00.04 | kalel008 | ok |
| 18:00.38 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: do "SetVar=MBOX=1234" in your sip.conf peers is they are indeed SIP peers. last I checked it was the only channel driver supporting this. |
| 18:00.46 | kalel008 | so if i have DID's where should i define them in extensions.conf or users.conf |
| 18:00.47 | rue_mohr | so I expect that would return something like Zap/3, I can parse it to peices, and use a lookup table |
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| 18:01.00 | drmessano | Asterisk runs like crap on Windows 98 |
| 18:01.18 | rue_mohr | drmessano, I would hope so |
| 18:01.22 | rasterix | windows runs like crap on Windows 98 |
| 18:01.33 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: for channel-agnositc approach ${CHANNEL} + "core show function CUT" |
| 18:01.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ~lart drmessano |
| 18:01.46 | jbot | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at drmessano |
| 18:01.48 | rue_mohr | [TK]D-Fender, yep |
| 18:02.20 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: You define the peer to auth your calls in sip/iax/user .con, and the PROCESSING in extensions.conf |
| 18:02.23 | kalel008 | sorry im still new to asterisk just trying to see the bigger picture |
| 18:02.37 | rasterix | ~book |
| 18:02.41 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com, or see ~buybook |
| 18:02.44 | [TK]D-Fender | kalel008: I would advise that you dump the GUI IMMEDIATELY and go read the book. |
| 18:03.16 | kalel008 | maybe because the gui confuzes me |
| 18:04.06 | rue_mohr | if you want to run asterisk on older hardware, use linux (dont go too far back on the hardware) |
| 18:04.23 | rue_mohr | I think interrupt performance is the main factor |
| 18:05.21 | [TK]D-Fender | "BREAKING: Bristol Palin Pregnant Right Now" <- Yay, kiddie-slut strikes again! |
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| 18:08.12 | rue_mohr | hmm I can only ever have 24 zap channels, the the house only has 12 rooms, I dont see why I shouldn't do I string match for the whole channelname |
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| 18:10.27 | rue_mohr | hmm, the duck dons't have voicemail... |
| 18:11.24 | rue_mohr | [vm_automagic] |
| 18:13.17 | rue_mohr | exten =>s, 1, Set(MBOX=0) |
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| 18:19.51 | EI5GTB | ~centos52bug |
| 18:20.00 | jbot | [~centos52bug] There is a bug compiling Zaptel up to 1.4.11/1.2.26 on CentOS/RHEL 5.2: error in xpp/xdefs.h. Workaround: uncheck "xpp" (Astribank) driver in menuselect. Fixed in SVN. Patches: http://bugs.digium.com/12889, or trouble compiling x86_64 packages? Report a bug to CentOS! ".i386 packages should not satisfy dependencies for .x86_64 packages." |
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| 18:20.37 | EI5GTB | hmm, im thinking of installing centos on my 64bit machine |
| 18:20.37 | Blackvel | weird |
| 18:20.45 | EI5GTB | anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:20.53 | EI5GTB | should i do it on a different distro? |
| 18:21.05 | Blackvel | how can I unselect xpp in asterisk 1.2.30.2? had to change Makefile and Kbuild |
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| 18:22.45 | rasterix | ei5gtb i installed centos52 on a hp ml110 recently and everything is good |
| 18:23.26 | Blackvel | I run centos 52 too |
| 18:23.42 | EI5GTB | hmm...and what about the asterisk bug? |
| 18:23.49 | rasterix | sorry i should say i install centos52 and asterisk |
| 18:23.52 | Blackvel | do you have xpp? |
| 18:23.53 | EI5GTB | aha |
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| 18:24.10 | rasterix | i just unchecked xpp |
| 18:24.23 | EI5GTB | sweet |
| 18:24.33 | EI5GTB | time to wipe windows server off this machine |
| 18:24.40 | rue_mohr | exten => s, n, Set(MBOX=$IF(${CHANNEL} = ZAP/3?203:${MBOX}) |
| 18:24.42 | EI5GTB | it will be my last windows server |
| 18:24.45 | EI5GTB | gone!! |
| 18:24.50 | drmessano | Does anyone READ that bug popup |
| 18:25.07 | drmessano | If you're using a NEWER version of zaptel it's not a problem.. and it's a zaptel issue |
| 18:25.22 | EI5GTB | aha |
| 18:25.31 | drmessano | It says it rigt there |
| 18:25.34 | Blackvel | whats NEWER than 1.2.26? |
| 18:25.44 | rue_mohr | exten => s, n, Set(MBOX=$IF(${CHANNEL} = ZAP/1?201:${MBOX}) |
| 18:25.45 | drmessano | ZAPTEL |
| 18:25.50 | drmessano | Z A P T E L |
| 18:26.27 | rob0 | "exten => s,n,NoOp(${CALLERID})" or "exten => s,2,NoOp(${CALLERID(ALL)})"? (to display callerID in console) |
| 18:27.19 | Blackvel | there is ONLY zaptel 1.2.26. so what newer? |
| 18:27.27 | Blackvel | trunk? |
| 18:27.31 | drmessano | No |
| 18:27.32 | drmessano | SVN |
| 18:27.36 | rue_mohr | hey, cant I make my life alot easier by setting callerid's for all my zaptel channels and using that as the reference for what mailbox I want to go to? |
| 18:27.46 | drmessano | "Fixed in SVN." |
| 18:27.52 | Blackvel | so its fixed in SVN trunk |
| 18:27.57 | drmessano | NO |
| 18:28.02 | drmessano | It's fixed in SVN |
| 18:28.04 | drmessano | Not TRUNK |
| 18:28.06 | drmessano | SVN |
| 18:28.18 | drmessano | 1.2 SVN |
| 18:28.52 | rasterix | drmessano: since hes installing from the current download (like most users) the workaround is valid |
| 18:29.14 | drmessano | I am not contesting the workaround |
| 18:30.16 | rasterix | drmessano: what are you contesting then? you didnt say its fixed in SVN u said its fixed in a newer version of zaptel |
| 18:30.20 | EI5GTB | congradulations on confusing me :P |
| 18:30.26 | drmessano | [14:21] <EI5GTB> should i do it on a different distro? <---- It's only mentioned in that popup that there's TWO ways of not being affected (1) using SVN or (2) the workaround.. but everyone does the whole "Oh, guess I better use soemthing else" |
| 18:30.27 | rob0 | got the NoOp, nm |
| 18:30.44 | rasterix | ei5gtb: just apply the work around and you have no problem |
| 18:31.01 | drmessano | rasterix: Put me on ignore, you're obviosuly too stupid to comprehend me |
| 18:31.19 | EI5GTB | k, i was just wondering was it easier to use a different distro.... but the work around must be fairly simple.. |
| 18:31.29 | rasterix | ei5gtb: it is |
| 18:31.39 | EI5GTB | im an asterisk nub... just making a dev box to learn the ropes |
| 18:31.55 | EI5GTB | im not using any task critical applications...just doing it for a bitta fun |
| 18:32.04 | EI5GTB | im a soon to be communications engineering student |
| 18:32.28 | rasterix | eif5gtb: thanks for the life history :P |
| 18:32.33 | EI5GTB | no bother :P |
| 18:32.41 | EI5GTB | anything else you'd like to know? |
| 18:32.42 | EI5GTB | ;) |
| 18:33.03 | rue_mohr | ok |
| 18:33.04 | EI5GTB | i currently have the hiccups... |
| 18:33.04 | EI5GTB | :P: |
| 18:33.08 | rasterix | ei5gtb: not right now... when your box is up ill call u and we can chat |
| 18:33.17 | EI5GTB | heh |
| 18:33.18 | EI5GTB | no bother" |
| 18:33.30 | EI5GTB | have a radio handy? |
| 18:33.55 | rasterix | radio? i dont think ive seen one in a while |
| 18:33.59 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Apparently its easier to rip out your entire OS install than uncheck 1 &^#%ing options in "make menuconfig". Apparently its just too much to ask... |
| 18:34.00 | EI5GTB | heh |
| 18:34.04 | drmessano | Ireland? |
| 18:34.14 | EI5GTB | yup |
| 18:34.18 | rue_mohr | http://pastebin.com/m1316bdf4 what do you think? |
| 18:34.23 | drmessano | I'm a KE4 |
| 18:34.34 | EI5GTB | neat! |
| 18:34.37 | drmessano | No HF rig right now |
| 18:34.41 | EI5GTB | =/ |
| 18:34.59 | drmessano | May get a FT-450 |
| 18:35.16 | EI5GTB | maybe we can make some sort of echolink/asterisk hybrid! |
| 18:35.22 | rasterix | fender: whos ripping out their OS install? |
| 18:35.30 | EI5GTB | i have a ts-480 |
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| 18:35.37 | rue_mohr | I'm just ensure if those if's will work |
| 18:35.39 | drmessano | I already have that working |
| 18:35.58 | drmessano | Asterisk has an application for Radio called app_rpt |
| 18:36.00 | EI5GTB | from kenwood, very nice radio, i do mobile/portable from time to time |
| 18:36.07 | EI5GTB | yea, i heard about that |
| 18:36.15 | EI5GTB | havn't read up on it too much yet |
| 18:36.35 | drmessano | It's pretty slick |
| 18:37.03 | EI5GTB | it does more than repeater logic then? |
| 18:37.10 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: I think you #1 have no idea how to right an expression #2 have no idea what the channel name is actually going to look like #3 make a mess with horrible extra spacing which can screw up *'s dumb-ass parser #4 How do you end up in "s" over there anyway ? |
| 18:37.39 | rue_mohr | new context |
| 18:37.45 | drmessano | EI5GTB: You can basically create a repeater controller out of it with a VoIP phone patch |
| 18:37.51 | EI5GTB | nice |
| 18:38.01 | drmessano | EI5GTB: It acts as a big multiplexer for the audio |
| 18:38.02 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr>new context <- meaning? |
| 18:38.04 | EI5GTB | and - i suppose, all the other features of asterisk.. |
| 18:38.08 | rue_mohr | [vm_automagic] |
| 18:38.16 | EI5GTB | you could have a repeater...with mailboxes! |
| 18:38.17 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Of course.. |
| 18:38.22 | EI5GTB | wow!!! |
| 18:38.23 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Yes.. |
| 18:38.32 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: I SEE THAT. What the hell does "new context" tell me about how you're going to end up on that exten in the first place? |
| 18:38.46 | rue_mohr | exten => 500,1,goto(vm_automagic,s,1) |
| 18:38.50 | drmessano | EI5GTB: You can link repeaters using standard VoIP protocols and not proprietary crap like Echolink |
| 18:38.55 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: Ok, better :) |
| 18:39.17 | rue_mohr | :) well I just assumed you know I have to get to it |
| 18:39.19 | EI5GTB | nice!! i have a lifelong....not going as far as grudge, but dislike of echolink! |
| 18:39.43 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: After all the other screw-ups in there I trust less and less with each passing second |
| 18:40.05 | rue_mohr | what did I do? |
| 18:40.25 | rasterix | < sits back and relaxes as someone else takes the abuse for a change |
| 18:40.43 | rue_mohr | I havn't crossed a means to print a message to the console from a dialplan, so I cant really check the contents of ${CHANNEL} |
| 18:40.49 | EI5GTB | can imagine having asterisk servers at each EI repeater install! |
| 18:40.51 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: I jsut spelled out a whole bunch of stuff. go read |
| 18:41.21 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: Holy crap.. "core show application NoOp" <----- |
| 18:41.29 | rasterix | rue_mohr: NOOP |
| 18:41.31 | drmessano | EI5GTB: or being able to initiate a direct IP connection to one in VK land without need for a intermediary |
| 18:41.39 | rue_mohr | so far it looks like you said I did the expressions wrong, the channel names wrong, and to not use human friendly spacing |
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| 18:42.38 | EI5GTB | drmessano, yea, very good idea!! and tbh....echolinks logig etc... sucks! |
| 18:43.50 | rasterix | rue_mohr: there should be no whitespace between n and (label) |
| 18:43.54 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Echolink is run by a bunch of communists |
| 18:43.55 | rue_mohr | oh typo on the gotoif |
| 18:44.12 | rue_mohr | no that was right |
| 18:44.14 | EI5GTB | drmessano, hahahah.. im not too well up on that end of echolink...but i would say as much! |
| 18:44.31 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Ok, maybe not card carrying members.. but wannabe's :) |
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| 18:44.33 | r0land | hi all |
| 18:44.36 | r0land | hey [TK]D-Fender |
| 18:44.52 | EI5GTB | drmessano, ha, i see.. |
| 18:44.56 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Asterisk is way better for linking.. I've seen it in action using several repeaters and it's VERY nice. |
| 18:45.04 | EI5GTB | spose with the card comes a sence of the community.. |
| 18:45.09 | EI5GTB | nice |
| 18:45.14 | EI5GTB | im starting a club in my towen |
| 18:45.24 | EI5GTB | and if we get a repeater it will be asterisk! |
| 18:45.27 | rue_mohr | http://pastebin.com/m19814d49 |
| 18:45.34 | rue_mohr | that should have less of you up in arms |
| 18:45.38 | drmessano | Right now my repeater has nothing but a CWID on it |
| 18:45.45 | r0land | im facing this issue : http://pastebin.com/d31af5099 <<-- even though i included 335's context in 306's context! any advice? |
| 18:45.45 | drmessano | I am building our repeater controller |
| 18:45.46 | EI5GTB | someone should impliment a central asterisk server... |
| 18:45.55 | EI5GTB | for repeaters |
| 18:45.58 | EI5GTB | nice |
| 18:46.08 | EI5GTB | take planty of pics.. write plenty of notes! |
| 18:46.08 | drmessano | EI5GTB: That's the beauty.. there is no need.. all you have to do is dial one up.. |
| 18:46.22 | EI5GTB | yea.. although... how does that work? |
| 18:46.23 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Nothing central needed, unlike EL |
| 18:46.29 | drmessano | EI5GTB: IP <> IP |
| 18:46.31 | EI5GTB | i dial in on the radio... i use dtmf tones.. |
| 18:46.41 | EI5GTB | i dial the ip of the repeater? |
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| 18:46.54 | EI5GTB | or you can make "speed dials" in the dialplan? |
| 18:47.05 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Yes, you basically set things up in the dialplan |
| 18:47.19 | drmessano | EI5GTB: Dial XXXX and bam, linked.. |
| 18:47.28 | EI5GTB | neat |
| 18:47.34 | drmessano | All you really need central is someone to come up with a nice directoty |
| 18:47.38 | drmessano | directory* |
| 18:47.40 | [TK]D-Fender | EI5GTB: no such thing as "speed dial" |
| 18:47.53 | EI5GTB | but if you had 30,000 repeaters... it would be nice to have a central system... justy as an optional "aid" |
| 18:48.00 | [TK]D-Fender | e1Your dialplan says exactly what you can dial and what it will do. |
| 18:48.05 | EI5GTB | yea, thts what i mean, directory |
| 18:48.26 | EI5GTB | [TK]D-Fender, im talking from an outside users point of view |
| 18:48.37 | EI5GTB | the average ham dont know what i dial plan |
| 18:48.39 | EI5GTB | is |
| 18:48.47 | [TK]D-Fender | e1"Directory" is a dial-by-name" options based on VM entries |
| 18:48.48 | EI5GTB | their just gonna se a "speed dial" |
| 18:49.23 | rue_mohr | exten => s, n, Set(MBOX = $IF(${CHANNEL} = ZAP/1-1?201:${MBOX}) |
| 18:50.19 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: that is still not a valid EXPRESSION |
| 18:50.33 | rue_mohr | ok... |
| 18:50.58 | rue_mohr | how about more parenths? |
| 18:51.03 | rue_mohr | ;) |
| 18:51.11 | rasterix | lol im looking at it... and i dont really know where to start... i think you should read the section on variables and expressions in the book |
| 18:51.19 | EI5GTB | drmessano, when i get up to speed on asterisk.. we eill have an enlightened chat about this system! |
| 18:51.58 | drmessano | EI5GTB: I think [TK]D-Fenders point in mentioning that as well is that with Asterisk, everything you do is 100% in your control.. So things like dialing from box <> box using certain extension number is a direct result of YOUR direct command in the dialplan.. making it SOOO much better than something like echolink where everything is layers on top of layers of crap |
| 18:52.05 | rue_mohr | scrolsl back to the begginning of chapter6 |
| 18:52.57 | EI5GTB | drmessano, yea.. i understand the dialplan, and how it all works.. but lets face it.. 5 is a speed dial for 125.678.5.43 |
| 18:53.09 | EI5GTB | to the average boat anchor lover.. |
| 18:55.10 | rue_mohr | k, I'm sure the gotoif is right |
| 18:55.11 | EI5GTB | hands drmessano his shovel |
| 18:55.52 | rue_mohr | oh |
| 18:55.56 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: Who said your GotoIf was wrong? |
| 18:55.56 | drmessano | True.. I know a lot of people don't care what happens behind the scenes within Asterisk, but to me.. I still get excited making SIP <> SIP calls over Asterisk and the idea of doing that with a repeater SIP <> SIP or IAX2 <> IAX2 just kicks ass |
| 18:56.04 | rue_mohr | exten => s, n, Set(MBOX = $IF("${CHANNEL}" = "ZAP/1-1"?201:${MBOX})) |
| 18:56.11 | rasterix | rue_mohr: 1. did u mean $if or just if? 2. do noop on ${channel} i think you need to look at what it has in it 3. an expression should start $[ and end ] |
| 18:56.20 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: look at all of your OTHER broken would-be expressions. |
| 18:56.44 | Maliuta | EI5GTB: just the "average" person believes it, don't make it true |
| 18:56.58 | EI5GTB | lol |
| 18:57.09 | EI5GTB | my shovels gone, im not digging any more holes :P |
| 18:57.11 | rue_mohr | dosn't $if return the values of ?: ? |
| 18:57.14 | Maliuta | inserts a because in there |
| 18:57.51 | EI5GTB | ha, i never noticed that |
| 18:58.07 | zamba | Sep 1 22:53:15 NOTICE[23889]: res_musiconhold.c:515 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?! |
| 18:58.12 | zamba | i'm getting that message over and over again |
| 18:58.24 | zamba | i see in the FAQ that it suggests that the computer is too slow |
| 18:58.42 | zamba | this is a p4 3.0 ghz with 4 gb of ram |
| 18:58.46 | zamba | that oughta be enough |
| 18:58.53 | [TK]D-Fender | zamba: lack of a zaptel timer and esp. when using mpg123 for MoH |
| 18:59.07 | rue_mohr | your saying I can use noop to debug values |
| 18:59.13 | rue_mohr | cool, |
| 19:00.14 | rasterix | rue_mohr: SET(MBOX=IF($[${CHANNEL=****]?201:0)) |
| 19:00.18 | rasterix | oops typo |
| 19:00.24 | rue_mohr | hah |
| 19:00.55 | rasterix | SET(MBOX=IF($[${CHANNEL}=****]?201:0)) |
| 19:01.29 | rue_mohr | but not zero cause I have a list of tests |
| 19:01.33 | rue_mohr | k |
| 19:03.44 | rue_mohr | I think its similarity to perl is screwing with me |
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| 19:10.20 | rob0 | My issue is thus: I want distinctive ring for a phone on a Sipura. I see how to set that, Set(_ALERT_INFO=Bellcore-rX) (where X is 1-8.) But I think my problem is the Panasonic analog phone connected; electronic ring. Any idea on what cadences might work? |
| 19:11.29 | rue_mohr | you want to set it for a sipura sip phone or an analog phone? |
| 19:12.13 | rob0 | well, the phone itself has several ring choices, but what I want is for a certain extension to have a distinctive ring. |
| 19:12.27 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0: Where does the phone state that is supports multiple cadences? |
| 19:13.08 | rob0 | I chose as close as I could get to a solid tone for the phone's ring. Don't know about what the phone supports, should I check with Panasonic? |
| 19:13.20 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0: Yes. |
| 19:13.31 | rob0 | (they do have good support, so thanks, I'll try that.) |
| 19:14.37 | rob0 | This is just a consumer-grade cordless, not really intended for PBX use. |
| 19:14.37 | rasterix | rue_mohr: i think a more elegant solution would be to use the regex function |
| 19:14.56 | rue_mohr | I been thinkign that, but its not 1:1 |
| 19:15.13 | rue_mohr | ZAP/2-1"]?203: ZAP/3-1"]?206 |
| 19:16.09 | rasterix | then you can do set(mbox=$[regex("regular expression" ${CHANNEL})]) |
| 19:16.16 | rasterix | or something like that |
| 19:16.34 | rasterix | haha ooops |
| 19:16.51 | rue_mohr | I'd still need to if-remap it to the actual extension number |
| 19:17.18 | rue_mohr | I suspect I could also use cid, cause its not otherwise used anywhere in my system |
| 19:17.29 | rue_mohr | (I'm too cheap to pay the telco for cid) |
| 19:17.33 | rasterix | ignore that last line |
| 19:17.37 | rasterix | im tired |
| 19:17.56 | rue_mohr | and I dont need it, my ivr has to default, the telemarketers cant dial, so I get no solicoted calls |
| 19:18.42 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, what is the preferred audio codec that I should use? |
| 19:18.48 | existenz | G711a? |
| 19:18.59 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: outside of North America, yes |
| 19:19.55 | rue_mohr | exten => s, 1, Set(MBOX = 0) |
| 19:19.55 | rue_mohr | exten => s, n, GotoIf($[${MBOX} = 0]?vmDunno:vmKnow) Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/sip303-0819a4c8' status is 'UNKNOWN' |
| 19:20.21 | rue_mohr | I'm gonna play while there is still daylight and come back t this in a while |
| 19:21.00 | TJNII | rue_mohr: What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 19:21.16 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: What did I tell you about extra spacing SCREWING you? |
| 19:21.31 | [TK]D-Fender | TJNII: rue_mohr>exten => s, 1, Set(MBOX = 0) <- BROKEN |
| 19:21.35 | rue_mohr | I removed the spacing |
| 19:21.40 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, can this: Mem: 126068k total, 122944k used, 3124k free, 30924k buffers be the problem? |
| 19:21.46 | rue_mohr | what |
| 19:21.54 | drmessano | ha |
| 19:22.01 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: With what, CODEC selection? What are you talking about? |
| 19:22.02 | rue_mohr | that isn't how you set a veriale? |
| 19:22.05 | rue_mohr | arg |
| 19:22.12 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: No &^%#$ing extra spaces |
| 19:22.14 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, the choppy playback sound |
| 19:22.33 | drmessano | Asterisk just LOVES running from Swap |
| 19:22.36 | rue_mohr | because of the spaces!?!?! oh man.... |
| 19:22.41 | rue_mohr | k, later, thankyou... |
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| 19:23.04 | Qwell | rue_mohr: technically what you had would work |
| 19:23.17 | Qwell | but you'd end up with the variable ${MBOX } where the value is " 0" |
| 19:23.27 | rue_mohr | how about a telepathy application that just sends me to vm when I pick up the phone intending to check it? |
| 19:23.40 | Qwell | rue_mohr: res_telepathy is due out tomorrow |
| 19:23.44 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: No idea and you have not given any real details about the problem. |
| 19:23.55 | rue_mohr | it would save me dialing 9 for an outside line too |
| 19:24.16 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, When I try to Playback or Background() any sound file, it sounds quite choppy, musiconhold is fine. |
| 19:24.30 | [TK]D-Fender | rue_mohr: Another dead and useless idea |
| 19:24.42 | [TK]D-Fender | exitwhat sound file exactly? |
| 19:25.45 | rue_mohr | catching and spilling every phone number that could be dialed is tooo much labour, do you know how ugly dialplans are for australlia? |
| 19:26.03 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, gsm sound files, anyone |
| 19:26.50 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: If you compiled with GCC 4.2+ this can cause corrupted playback due to optimization issues with the GSM code. |
| 19:26.58 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: Compile with a lower version. |
| 19:27.53 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, no, with 3.4.4 |
| 19:28.09 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: Try another version regardless. |
| 19:28.32 | existenz | should I compile everything anew? |
| 19:28.42 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: If its only GSM playback, and not actual conversations, the error seems consistent and its scope merely larger |
| 19:28.48 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: jsut * |
| 19:29.08 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, which version should I use |
| 19:29.25 | TJNII | existenz: Before you go that far, I suume you've triple checked that the sound file codecs and the codecs used by the phone are one and the same? |
| 19:29.43 | drmessano | Friends don't let friends Dial 0 |
| 19:29.45 | drmessano | Friends don't let friends Dial 9 |
| 19:30.01 | existenz | TJNII, yup |
| 19:30.15 | TJNII | existenz: Okay, carry on then. |
| 19:30.23 | drmessano | What speed is the box? |
| 19:30.25 | existenz | TJNII, G711a |
| 19:30.58 | drmessano | existenz: What is the CPU speed? |
| 19:31.15 | existenz | drmessano, 700Mhz |
| 19:31.31 | drmessano | 700MHZ with 128MB ram and you're out of RAM and running on swap |
| 19:31.38 | drmessano | I'd say that's the issue |
| 19:32.09 | existenz | drmessano, why musiconhold works fine? |
| 19:32.11 | drmessano | What distro? |
| 19:32.38 | existenz | drmessano, I am using the asterisknow |
| 19:32.44 | existenz | I am not sure on what distro it is installed |
| 19:34.02 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: Ok, on AsteriskNow you should not be having that issue |
| 19:34.24 | [TK]D-Fender | existenz: and drmessano's point seems to pin it |
| 19:34.43 | existenz | what might take so much memory? |
| 19:37.22 | drmessano | 128MB isn't "So much" |
| 19:38.58 | existenz | drmessano, why musiconhold works fine? |
| 19:39.33 | drmessano | Why are you so hung up on MOH working = there's something else wrong? |
| 19:39.39 | existenz | no |
| 19:39.47 | existenz | playback and background don't work well |
| 19:40.27 | drmessano | Why does it matter what IS working? Isn't enough stuff NOT working? |
| 19:40.54 | existenz | yeah, but moh makes sounds as well |
| 19:41.06 | drmessano | facepalms |
| 19:41.20 | drmessano | Ok, yep.. Good luck to you |
| 19:42.04 | existenz | =/ |
| 19:43.28 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, I'm off for a while, back later. |
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| 19:58.25 | rasterix | drmessano: making more friends i see |
| 19:59.26 | Olobola | I'm trying to use SET from mysql/realtime. It fails if I set the app field to "Set" and appData field to "variableName=1". How can I set a channel variable from realtime/mysql? |
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| 20:06.41 | gaetronik | hi there |
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| 20:08.16 | gaetronik | i've a question how could i have such lines with zap in full logs [Aug 28 10:50:51] VERBOSE[29857] logger.c: -- Executing [909XXXXXXXX@confirm |
| 20:08.17 | gaetronik | acion:1] Set("Zap/2-1", "Ejecutivo=") in new stack |
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| 20:11.31 | shmaltz | anyone know if I can gain access to CLI on switchvox? |
| 20:11.50 | gaetronik | since the context is called from sip phones |
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| 20:12.56 | guax | usb:001/008 xpp_usb- e4e4:1150 Astribank-multi no-firmware |
| 20:13.06 | guax | xorcom and slackware, something i need to know? |
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| 20:26.20 | JerJer | in case anyone wants to listen in, here is a a link to the new orleans police scanner http://www.radioreference.com:8000/nola_ps |
| 20:26.51 | Qwell | neat |
| 20:27.36 | JerJer | new orleans 911 just went down |
| 20:27.42 | Qwell | oops |
| 20:28.02 | Qwell | time for the 3 hams left in the world to come to the rescue? |
| 20:28.04 | Qwell | ducks |
| 20:28.05 | rob0 | Palin's daughter is knocked up! I swear I didn't do it!! |
| 20:28.22 | JerJer | knocked up again or first time? |
| 20:28.26 | Qwell | 5 mo |
| 20:28.29 | JerJer | i have heard soo many different things |
| 20:28.51 | JerJer | the damn blogosphere is NUTS with pure speculation |
| 20:29.00 | JerJer | ...i fear |
| 20:29.54 | JerJer | the latest blog entry i actually stopped to read (i examine keywords / tags mostly) said that Palin's teen daughter is knocked up for a second time by Palin's husband |
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| 20:31.00 | ManxPower | Our Jackson MS NOC is back, but the Covington LA one is still dow |
| 20:33.43 | existenz | bin ja frustriert |
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| 20:44.01 | kalel008 | hey there |
| 20:44.16 | kalel008 | how do i ad asterisk to the init.d startup |
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| 20:45.04 | Xaviertoor | rc.local |
| 20:45.10 | Xaviertoor | asterisk & |
| 20:45.40 | kalel008 | in ubuntu i mean |
| 20:45.50 | Xaviertoor | into package asterisk/contrib have scripts |
| 20:46.44 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, What is this error about: [Sep 1 23:41:41] WARNING[2037] codec_g729a.c: Failed to initialize G.729 copy protection! |
| 20:46.44 | existenz | ? |
| 20:46.45 | kalel008 | kewl thx man |
| 20:46.50 | existenz | [TK]D-Fender, can it cause that problem? |
| 20:47.06 | JerJer | Xaviertoor: that's not very safe |
| 20:47.16 | JerJer | at the very least i would call /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk |
| 20:47.32 | JerJer | but there is a debian init script that should work with ubuntu without modification |
| 20:47.43 | JerJer | within the source tree of asterisk - somewhere |
| 20:47.49 | kalel008 | im so chuffed with myself ive setup channels and some extensions that work |
| 20:48.09 | Xaviertoor | I dont use ubuntu,kubuntu |
| 20:48.13 | kalel008 | i have done it oncethe startup but cant remember how lol:) |
| 20:49.06 | kalel008 | anyways ill cya later thanks for the help guys |
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| 20:49.59 | Qwell | existenz: You'll need to call support |
| 20:50.25 | existenz | Qwell, ? |
| 20:50.31 | Qwell | for your warning message |
| 20:50.48 | existenz | which support? |
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| 20:52.10 | Qwell | well, presumably you bought the codec and licenses from Digium... |
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| 20:55.00 | SamuraiDio | hi |
| 20:55.00 | SamuraiDio | how do i limit call for a sip user? |
| 20:55.18 | gr0mit | SamuraiDio, as in duration or number of simultaneious calls? |
| 20:55.24 | SamuraiDio | ...on sip.conf (asterisk 1.2) |
| 20:55.33 | SamuraiDio | number of simultaneous calls |
| 20:55.46 | gr0mit | i think it changed from 1.2 to 1.4 |
| 20:56.40 | drmessano | Qwell: Is g729so_CrAcKeD_by_P33B33EX_TeAm.rar not an official Digium release? |
| 20:56.48 | SamuraiDio | someone know? |
| 20:57.26 | gr0mit | # incominglimit and outgoinglimit = Number : Limits for number of simultaneous active calls for a SIP client. Valid only for type=peer. |
| 20:57.36 | gr0mit | on 1.2 |
| 20:58.02 | gr0mit | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+incominglimit |
| 20:58.43 | SamuraiDio | yeah, but i need limit a user |
| 20:59.17 | SamuraiDio | call-limit=10 |
| 20:59.17 | SamuraiDio | ?? |
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| 21:04.02 | SamuraiDio | seens that it worked |
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| 21:24.46 | TJNII | That police scanner link seems to have gone down.... |
| 21:25.50 | Qwell | TJNII: it's just you |
| 21:26.08 | TJNII | Yea, it seems to be working again now |
| 21:26.25 | TJNII | Not just me, though. Their listener count went from 96 to 6 |
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| 21:31.56 | brodiem | Police scanner link? |
| 21:32.23 | Qwell | brodiem: NOPD, EMS, FIre |
| 21:32.54 | Qwell | http://www.radioreference.com:8000/nola_ps |
| 21:33.03 | Qwell | boring :p |
| 21:33.42 | JerJer | yeah - its kinda boring, but does get interesting from time to time |
| 21:36.55 | [TK]D-Fender | cranks up Def Leppard's "Armageddon It" |
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| 21:44.11 | ManxPower | This hurricane is about the same as all the others before Katrina |
| 21:44.21 | ManxPower | some roof damage, some minor flooding. |
| 21:44.30 | ManxPower | At least for New Orleans |
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| 21:45.06 | brodiem | Yeah except more hype |
| 21:56.31 | [TK]D-Fender | ".S. to strike Iran in coming weeks" - There goes the neighbourhood. |
| 21:58.03 | jaytee | the cost of cous-cous is gonna skyrocket |
| 21:58.15 | drmessano | HA!! |
| 21:58.19 | drmessano | Now THAT is funny |
| 21:58.39 | drmessano | The cous-cous market is going to go insane |
| 21:58.43 | drmessano | Stock up now! |
| 21:59.12 | jaytee | "and don't forget the falafel, Bill-O!" |
| 21:59.26 | drmessano | You know.. the good news is.. |
| 21:59.37 | drmessano | The price of beheadings should finally start coming down |
| 22:01.37 | jaytee | I was just reading an article on Consumerist about a guy who's been getting billed for Vonage for 2 years after he cancelled their service. |
| 22:01.45 | RypPn | I wouldn't plan any holidays in the middle east, they might even offer you a free sample |
| 22:02.22 | drmessano | lol |
| 22:02.29 | jaytee | I wouldn't plan a holiday in the middle east anyways, it's too damn hot and the natives are all crazy. |
| 22:04.37 | drmessano | +\ |
| 22:05.14 | Blackvel | anyone using 4636 / 4552 patton bri gateway to forward isdn calls to asterisk? |
| 22:05.25 | rob0 | Same is true in USA, at least about the crazy natives. |
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| 22:07.25 | otavio | My asterisk doesn't start. My /var/log/messages is http://paste.debian.net/16184/ |
| 22:07.36 | otavio | Do someone have an idea? |
| 22:09.15 | jblack | The error isn't in there. |
| 22:09.36 | otavio | jblack: great How could I try to figure? |
| 22:09.46 | [netman] | These errors don't avoid starisk to start |
| 22:09.49 | jblack | ps aux | grep asterisk |
| 22:10.01 | otavio | jblack: there's no error even if I run with -vvvgc |
| 22:10.11 | jblack | then I don't know. |
| 22:10.14 | otavio | jblack: nothing |
| 22:10.51 | otavio | otavio@voip:~$ sudo asterisk -vvvgc|grep -i erro |
| 22:10.51 | otavio | [Sep 1 19:10:11] ERROR[13164]: res_jabber.c:2447 aji_reload: JABBER: Failed to load config. |
| 22:10.56 | otavio | The only error |
| 22:12.07 | angryuser | otavio: try to create the empty file without options |
| 22:12.41 | otavio | angryuser: which filenae? |
| 22:12.42 | [TK]D-Fender | otavio: Forget log files. Start * MANUALLY and see what happens. "asterisk -gvvvvvvvvvc" |
| 22:12.42 | angryuser | otavio: whet ver of asteirks ? |
| 22:14.50 | otavio | angryuser: 1.4.21.2 |
| 22:14.57 | otavio | [TK]D-Fender: just did it. |
| 22:15.06 | otavio | The res_jabber is the only error |
| 22:15.09 | [TK]D-Fender | otavio: PASTEBIN is your friend... |
| 22:15.13 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 22:15.14 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 22:17.13 | otavio | [TK]D-Fender: how I ask to asterisk do not use colors? so I can paste it there? |
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| 22:17.30 | [TK]D-Fender | otavio: just PASTE it |
| 22:17.38 | [TK]D-Fender | (in a pastebin) |
| 22:18.25 | otavio | http://paste.debian.net/16189/ |
| 22:20.06 | otavio | I'm not experienced on asterisk so it's very difficult for me to figure out why it fails. I'm on that a cuple of days already. |
| 22:20.42 | [TK]D-Fender | otavio: Seems to stop on Directory <- |
| 22:20.56 | [TK]D-Fender | otavio: == Parsing '/etc/asterisk/vm_general.inc': Found <- you are not normally allowed to use INCLUDED files with voicemail.conf |
| 22:20.59 | otavio | [TK]D-Fender: ok but how I can debug/fix that? |
| 22:21.06 | Qwell | what version of Asterisk did you install? |
| 22:21.13 | otavio | 1.4.21 |
| 22:21.15 | jaytee | Parsing '/etc/asterisk/manager.d/freepbx.conf': Found |
| 22:21.17 | otavio | lenny debian packages |
| 22:21.26 | Qwell | where's the rest of the log? |
| 22:21.36 | otavio | Qwell: this is the _full_ log |
| 22:21.47 | Qwell | obtained how? |
| 22:22.03 | rob0 | The log, the whole log, and nothing but the log, so help me, Bob. |
| 22:22.04 | otavio | Qwell: asterisk -gvvvvvvvvvv |
| 22:22.11 | Qwell | add a c |
| 22:22.23 | otavio | Qwell: did it before and was same output |
| 22:22.30 | Qwell | tzafrir_laptop: the voicemail packages should conflict |
| 22:22.31 | otavio | Qwell: i removed the c to drop the colors |
| 22:22.41 | jaytee | c doesn't mean color |
| 22:22.50 | Qwell | otavio: same means you diffed the output? |
| 22:22.51 | jaytee | it means console (local) |
| 22:23.12 | otavio | Qwell: if you want, I can put -c. No problem |
| 22:23.19 | Qwell | yes |
| 22:23.32 | otavio | Qwell: pushing |
| 22:23.56 | Qwell | otavio: you need to uninstall one/some of the voicemail packages |
| 22:24.01 | Qwell | you can't have multiple |
| 22:24.15 | otavio | http://paste.debian.net/16190/ |
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| 22:26.29 | otavio | Qwell: just tell me where to take a look |
| 22:26.34 | Qwell | apt |
| 22:27.51 | otavio | Qwell: I have no extra voicemail apps |
| 22:28.00 | Qwell | yes you do |
| 22:28.24 | otavio | Qwell: can you tell me which module name they are? |
| 22:28.34 | Qwell | check apt |
| 22:29.08 | otavio | Qwell: what I should look for? |
| 22:29.18 | Qwell | voicemail |
| 22:29.24 | otavio | Qwell: I did apt-cache search voicemail and found no useful result |
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| 22:31.35 | otavio | Qwell: there's not, look at http://paste.debian.net/16191/ |
| 22:31.49 | Qwell | ... |
| 22:31.55 | Qwell | I count 3 |
| 22:32.10 | otavio | Qwell: i've only asterisk package installed |
| 22:32.37 | jaytee | freepbx is not "only asterisk package" |
| 22:33.01 | otavio | jaytee: freebox doesn't has modules I guess. |
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| 22:33.43 | Qwell | freepbx really should not be replacing that file... |
| 22:33.56 | otavio | and it doesn't do that. |
| 22:34.01 | otavio | i've just checked it |
| 22:34.26 | Qwell | I am certain that it does. |
| 22:35.08 | otavio | otavio@voip:~$ dpkg -L freepbx-common | grep '/usr/lib' |
| 22:35.09 | otavio | otavio@voip:~$ |
| 22:35.26 | Qwell | modules.conf |
| 22:35.38 | Qwell | and no, it won't show anything but /usr/src/ |
| 22:36.25 | otavio | Qwell: yes, it provides a modules.conf file |
| 22:36.26 | Qwell | freepbx isn't even in apt... |
| 22:36.42 | otavio | Qwell: it is being packages on pkg-voip |
| 22:36.46 | Qwell | anyways, fix your modules.conf. see debian |
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| 22:37.00 | Qwell | you need to make it not load those other voicemail modules |
| 22:37.16 | kotique | hey. any way to pass voicemail notify messages between asterisks ? I have users connected via proxy asterisk. |
| 22:37.18 | otavio | Qwell: I need to blacklist the voicemail odbc, right? |
| 22:37.35 | Qwell | and I'm not seeing freepbx in pkg-voip |
| 22:38.30 | Qwell | why do they have to make things so difficult.. |
| 22:39.20 | otavio | Qwell: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-voip/freepbx/ |
| 22:41.18 | [TK]D-Fender | otavio: Qwell has already told you what to do. Go do it. |
| 22:41.39 | otavio | I did and this didn't solve it |
| 22:41.53 | otavio | I blacklisted all voicemail modules (imap and odbc) |
| 22:41.57 | Qwell | how? |
| 22:42.00 | otavio | and it didn't work |
| 22:42.09 | [TK]D-Fender | otavio: pastebin your new modules.conf & an "ls" dump of your modules folder. |
| 22:42.09 | otavio | at modules.conf adding a noload |
| 22:44.35 | otavio | http://arquivos.ossystems.com.br/~otavio/voip/ |
| 22:44.40 | otavio | Both are there |
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| 22:46.45 | Qwell | and what happens when you start asterisk now? |
| 22:47.16 | Blackvel | under what circumstances does asterisk send SIP OPTIONS to my patton gw? its defined as peer but does not support this command. I get 501 not implemented. is there some easy way to turn it off? |
| 22:47.24 | otavio | Qwell: same. It stops at same line however grep for voicemail justs shows the first |
| 22:47.35 | Qwell | do the same for app_directory_* |
| 22:47.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Blackvel: Stop doing "qualify=yes" |
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| 22:47.51 | Blackvel | oh I see |
| 22:47.56 | Qwell | wow, pattons don't support sip options? |
| 22:47.57 | [TK]D-Fender | app_directory_odbc.so |
| 22:48.00 | otavio | ohhh ok |
| 22:48.30 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: I'm going to merge those one day, I swear.. |
| 22:48.37 | otavio | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh COOL |
| 22:48.40 | otavio | this works |
| 22:48.48 | Qwell | really I should just finish my storage branch |
| 22:48.59 | Qwell | otavio: bugs.debian.org, report a bug against freepbx |
| 22:49.30 | Blackvel | maybe something is wrong with my config |
| 22:49.53 | Blackvel | I am still too confused with this integration and the lots of config options in the patton |
| 22:51.19 | Blackvel | patton config is like cisco ios not too easy. anyone of you using it? |
| 22:54.41 | Blackvel | wow finally my isdn bri incoming call lets my snom ring. jippie |
| 22:54.44 | kotique | hey Qwell , how do I pass voicemail notify between asterisks ?:) |
| 22:55.09 | Qwell | kotique: what do you mean? |
| 22:55.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: Distributed VMI |
| 22:55.42 | otavio | Qwell: will talk to the responsable developer, for sure. |
| 22:55.48 | otavio | Qwell: thanks a lot |
| 22:55.49 | Qwell | you don't yet |
| 22:56.15 | Blackvel | qwell: I can tell you something funny. tested last days asterisk 1.4.21.2. patton GW sip forward let even Asterisk segfault :) |
| 22:57.21 | Qwell | maybe |
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| 23:04.34 | brodiem | Qwell: guess I'll soon see if the 3com IP550 will take stock polycom firmware, just scored one on ebay cheap |
| 23:14.11 | heedly | brodiem: why would you do that? |
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| 23:16.34 | TJNII | heedly: I think he's trying to brick it. |
| 23:17.13 | [TK]D-Fender | TJNII: No, he's buying a brick, and hoping to add mortar, a fresh coat of paint, and so weather sealant to it. |
| 23:17.21 | brodiem | haha |
| 23:17.27 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 23:18.12 | brodiem | I figure at half the cost of an IP550 I'll try it out :) |
| 23:18.14 | TJNII | [TK]D-Fender: Nicely put. |
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| 23:18.45 | brodiem | well almost half.. |
| 23:20.09 | heedly | they look the same price to me... |
| 23:20.17 | heedly | but maybe we looked at different places! |
| 23:20.51 | brodiem | heedly: no I mean I got it on ebay for half the cost of a Polycom IP550, but direct comparison at a retailer the 3com version costs more.. |
| 23:21.00 | [TK]D-Fender | heedly: brodiem>Qwell: guess I'll soon see if the 3com IP550 will take stock polycom firmware, just scored one on ebay cheap <--- |
| 23:22.26 | drmessano | I just put Cisco SCCP firmware on a PAP2 |
| 23:22.31 | drmessano | Now I have a WTF2 |
| 23:22.40 | jaytee | lol |
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| 23:32.50 | shmaltz | is an IP based provider (no username or password) supported by switchvox? |
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| 23:34.53 | [TK]D-Fender | shmaltz: Try asting in #switchvox |
| 23:35.11 | shmaltz | [TK]D-Fender, I did, looks more like a cemetary |
| 23:35.23 | [TK]D-Fender | shmaltz: then call up Digium support. |
| 23:35.30 | [TK]D-Fender | shmaltz: You know GUI's aren't supported here |
| 23:35.48 | shmaltz | [TK]D-Fender, I know, I wish it was vanila asterisk |
| 23:36.30 | jaytee | GUI's aren't supported here unless your name's otavio, you're running freepbx and you've got 3 email systems loading. |
| 23:37.24 | [TK]D-Fender | shmaltz: Cry yourself a river, 'cause your ship has sailed and it was the Titanic ][ |
| 23:38.05 | jaytee | mmmm, Kate Winslett.......cleavage.......mmmmmm |
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| 23:44.46 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
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