| 00:00.18 | ManxPower | WimpMan: the "ISDN Modem" is because the pci device ID library is too old to know about the non-ISDN cards that use that chip |
| 00:00.52 | WimpMan | IC. Extremely misleading. |
| 00:01.00 | jaytee | it's probably an X100 clone card from Ebay |
| 00:01.26 | ManxPower | jaytee: That's what I would assume, but you never know. |
| 00:01.42 | ManxPower | I found a genuine X100P in my attic the other day |
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| 00:02.22 | ManxPower | I wonder how much I could get for it on eBay |
| 00:02.35 | ManxPower | I just sold one of my old TDM413B cards |
| 00:02.43 | jaytee | ManxPower, yeah. I'm just going by that's what would show up whenever I'd do an lspci when I was wasting my time with a couple of those trash clone cards when I first started playing around with * |
| 00:03.01 | ManxPower | jaytee: I think the TDM400P cards also show up as that. |
| 00:03.22 | jaytee | I'm sitting on 2 TDM04B cards and yep. they show up as that too |
| 00:03.44 | ManxPower | Gopher_77: how many ports are on the back of the card? |
| 00:03.59 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: 2 |
| 00:04.08 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: one for phone, one for line |
| 00:04.22 | ManxPower | I also found a modem/sound card using the same Ambient chipset as the X101Ps |
| 00:04.44 | ManxPower | Gopher_77: then it's prolly an X100P, both ports are hardwired togather as a passthru so you can only plug one phone line into the card. |
| 00:05.00 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: I see |
| 00:05.08 | drmessano | ZOMG |
| 00:05.19 | drmessano | A R GIV U A BILLION DULARS FOR THAT |
| 00:05.25 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: somehow amixer shows "Phone" and "Line" |
| 00:05.43 | drmessano | Sure it does |
| 00:05.45 | ManxPower | Gopher_77: none of that is useful to Asterisk. |
| 00:06.04 | jaytee | ManxPower, I was browsing in Borders one day and I looked in the book VOIP Hacks from O'Reilly and there was a section on modifying the C code for zaptel to allow using a winmodem as an FXO. I laughed, put the book back on the shelf and moved on. |
| 00:06.10 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: unless it shows 2 different devices somehow |
| 00:06.11 | ManxPower | What do genuine X101Ps go for on eBay anyway? |
| 00:06.15 | drmessano | Line = Line in |
| 00:06.37 | jaytee | probably about 25 bucks since the clones go for about 12 to 15 |
| 00:06.37 | ManxPower | Gopher_77: I'll bet if you remove the card it will show the exact same thing. |
| 00:06.48 | ManxPower | jaytee: I can live with $25 |
| 00:06.59 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: it's possible; I didn't know to check that before I put the card in |
| 00:07.00 | drmessano | Phone = The audio from the modem when used for Voicemail, etc |
| 00:07.12 | drmessano | or |
| 00:07.14 | ManxPower | Want any Blonder Tongue Building amps, modulators, or channel processors? |
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| 00:07.35 | jaytee | lol |
| 00:07.45 | ManxPower | I also have a thousand or so feet of 4 strand fiber optic multimode |
| 00:08.02 | ManxPower | I'm selling or thorwing out all my old equipment. |
| 00:08.04 | C4away | if I put an include => somecontext into a context asterisk will try to match in the current context before trying to match in an included context right? |
| 00:08.16 | jaytee | right |
| 00:08.25 | C4away | regardless of whether it is above or below the line that would match locally |
| 00:08.26 | ManxPower | I have some genuine 3Com/USR PCI (NOT winmodem) modems around. |
| 00:08.35 | jaytee | C4away, no |
| 00:08.43 | drmessano | If I had a modem that used the same chipset as an X100P, I would so put a torrent of it up |
| 00:08.52 | ManxPower | stuff in the current context is searched before any include =>'d contexts. |
| 00:09.00 | jaytee | it'll try and match within the current context and then any includes in the order in which they are listed. |
| 00:09.02 | C4away | right |
| 00:09.15 | ManxPower | Generally the special extensions like t, T, a, o, etc don't work if they are in an included context, this might have changed in 1.4, I don't know. |
| 00:09.45 | jaytee | don't think that changed |
| 00:09.53 | C4away | if I put the include => before or after exten => 1234,... it will still match 1234 in the current context even if the include => whatever had a 1234 in it and it was included before in the dialplan? |
| 00:10.11 | WimpMan | ManxPower: I'm pretty sure I have one or the other of those included somewhere. At least a. |
| 00:10.19 | ManxPower | C4away: Asterisk reorders everything anyway. It will reorder your dialplan so the includes are after the extens |
| 00:10.26 | C4away | cool |
| 00:10.29 | C4away | that's what I wanted to make sure |
| 00:10.50 | jaytee | C4away, it's all in the book if you'd care to actually read it |
| 00:10.55 | C4away | yep |
| 00:11.03 | C4away | this I know |
| 00:11.04 | ManxPower | jaytee: As soon as my CentOS 5.2 DVD arrives I'm going to try 1.6 |
| 00:11.14 | C4away | but anything written to text becomes obsolete |
| 00:11.22 | C4away | quickly when it comes to open source projects |
| 00:11.27 | drmessano | ManxPower: Still waiting for my 5.0 DVD |
| 00:11.50 | jaytee | C4away, it's still valid and it's on page 142. |
| 00:11.58 | ManxPower | drmessano: My ISP gets very angry if you exceed their monthly allowance of 5GB |
| 00:12.06 | ManxPower | Hence ordering an DVD |
| 00:12.10 | drmessano | You have an aircard, right? |
| 00:12.13 | jaytee | 5.0 of what? |
| 00:12.20 | drmessano | CentOS 5.0 |
| 00:12.25 | ManxPower | drmessano: USB, but yes. VZW |
| 00:12.51 | jaytee | drmessano, you need a CD or DVD of CentOS? |
| 00:13.01 | drmessano | ManxPower: Well aare of the 5GB limit lol |
| 00:13.04 | drmessano | aware* |
| 00:13.05 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: aha, if I do lspci -v it shows an FXO interface |
| 00:13.12 | ManxPower | I still have the two 900Mhz ethernet bridges I got several years ago. Maybe I'll try a backhaul internet connection down the mountian. |
| 00:13.19 | ManxPower | ~fxofxs |
| 00:13.19 | jbot | hmm... fxofxs is An FXO port (red Digium module) expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. You can connect it to a PSTN line from the telco. An FXS port (green Digium module) expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage. You can connect a phone or a fax to it. |
| 00:13.48 | jaytee | the colored modules are gonna confuse the shit outta the newbs with X100 clone cards |
| 00:14.15 | ManxPower | drmessano: I think after the Class Action Settlement they just throttle you, but they yanked my service once I'm not taking a chance of that happening again. |
| 00:14.20 | drmessano | jaytee: I ordered a 5.0 for the hell of it.. never got it.. Also ordered an OpenSolaris DVD, never got it either.. I think my mailman is a haxor |
| 00:14.54 | ManxPower | especially since the X100P cards are green, but they are FXO. |
| 00:14.57 | jaytee | drmessano, oh. cuz I'd ship ya the discs. Damn postal service |
| 00:15.00 | Gopher_77 | ManxPower: can I at least get alsa autio i/o devices from an FXO interface? |
| 00:15.09 | hadronzoo | drmessano: I'm researching the PAP2T and the SPA-2102. What's the primary difference between the two? Like you said, I only need an FXS. |
| 00:15.41 | drmessano | hadronzoo: SPA-2102 can be used as a router, has two ethernet ports |
| 00:15.48 | jaytee | Gopher_77, you get alsa audio from a sound card or sound chip integrated on the motherboard, not from FXS or FXO |
| 00:15.50 | drmessano | PAP2T has one.. |
| 00:15.51 | ManxPower | Gopher_77: I suppose you could figure out the API for low level access the the port, but it will only work with a phone line, not a phone. |
| 00:16.25 | hadronzoo | drmessano: Great, since I don't need a router, I'll go with the PAP2T. Thanks for the assistance. |
| 00:17.19 | [TK]D-Fender | hadronzoo: 2102 also supports T.38, has a bigger processor, more RAM, etc. |
| 00:17.33 | [TK]D-Fender | hadronzoo: better to spend a few extra $ on it |
| 00:17.48 | drmessano | Its more than a few dollars tho |
| 00:18.24 | drmessano | Unless you need T.38, the RAM and processor stuff is irrelevant.. Not worth $12 or so |
| 00:18.36 | hadronzoo | [TK]D-Fender: I don't think I need faxing, but can it support more than one G.729a conversation? |
| 00:18.54 | [TK]D-Fender | hadronzoo: Unsure, but that would be a possible difference. Go check |
| 00:19.14 | drmessano | hadronzoo: The SPA-2102 CAN, the PAP2T has been argued both ways |
| 00:19.31 | drmessano | I've seen that it can, others say it can't. |
| 00:19.33 | hadronzoo | [TK]D-Fender: Although this is over FiOS, so I really don't need G.729a |
| 00:19.46 | hadronzoo | [TK]D-Fender: but I will research it, thanks |
| 00:20.46 | TalkRadio | fios is sweet.. you lucky dog it's not available here |
| 00:21.37 | hadronzoo | drmessano: Thanks, I'll research it more. TalkRadio: yes, this isn't for me though. I wish I had FiOS too, but it's only in the suburbs where I live. |
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| 00:30.43 | hadronzoo | I'm seeing the SPA-2102, the SPA-2102 NA, and the SPA-2102-R. Can someone recommend a resource that goes into the different versions? |
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| 00:32.58 | sportman | meh |
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| 00:36.32 | cesar_CR | hi guys |
| 00:36.44 | jaytee | I have the 2102-NA which is unlocked. I know the -R comes locked in most cases not sure about the straight 2102 |
| 00:36.52 | cesar_CR | anybody knows what could it be this error ?? [Oct 25 13:32:42] WARNING[25109]: file.c:1180 waitstream_core: Unexpected control subclass '2' |
| 00:37.27 | hadronzoo | jaytee: So, I should buy a 2102-NA then. Thanks. |
| 00:37.41 | jaytee | hadronzoo, where you located? |
| 00:38.49 | hadronzoo | jaytee: I'm in Dallas |
| 00:39.14 | jaytee | http://www.telephonydepot.com/product_p/105-054-212.htm 79 bucks |
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| 00:39.26 | jaytee | oh wait 59.99 |
| 00:39.39 | hadronzoo | jaytee: http://www.ipphone-warehouse.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=spa2102 |
| 00:39.40 | jaytee | 79 is list |
| 00:40.03 | jaytee | ok, same price then |
| 00:40.19 | hadronzoo | jaytee: cool, thanks |
| 00:40.38 | jaytee | never bought from them. I've had excellent luck with telephonydepot though. they ship fast |
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| 00:56.24 | C4away | what is it called (googleable search term) for immediate connection to a zap channel? |
| 00:56.56 | drmessano | SPA-2102 locked to a carrier? |
| 00:57.07 | C4away | for example if I dial *234 it connects me to zap/1 without dialing any digits |
| 00:59.06 | jaytee | drmessano, some 2102's came locked to carriers. Sunrocket was doing it with the -R model. |
| 01:00.12 | drmessano | ah |
| 01:00.20 | jeev | i bought 3 ata's for like 10 bux on ebay once |
| 01:00.23 | jeev | but i can't unlock the |
| 01:00.28 | jeev | or really hvaen't bothered to try |
| 01:01.22 | drmessano | I guess an SPA-2102 is better than an RTP300 |
| 01:05.38 | cesar_CR | guys have anyone used Analog panasonic phones with asterisk ? I need opinions about this ones wich featues the cliente will loose ? |
| 01:06.11 | hadronzoo | I stumbled upon the Siemens Gigaset DECT phones. I'm assuming that they don't work very well with asterisk? |
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| 01:07.58 | drmessano | Personally, I dont want to be locked into a cordless like that |
| 01:08.14 | drmessano | If the cordless dies tomorrow, I can get another and use the same ATA |
| 01:08.25 | drmessano | I know the ATA works, i know its mass market |
| 01:08.42 | hadronzoo | drmessano: I see. That makes sense |
| 01:19.22 | hadronzoo | Thanks for the help everyone |
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| 02:59.23 | tndev | hi |
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| 03:13.03 | ManxPower | cesar_CR: If the phones are analog then they don't have any features anyway. |
| 03:13.54 | cesar_CR | ManxPower, but blind transfer and all that will work right ? |
| 03:14.28 | ManxPower | cesar_CR: Any features done using a FLASH and Touch Tones should work. |
| 03:14.57 | ManxPower | (transfers can be done using either flash or DTMF in Asterisk) |
| 03:15.06 | cesar_CR | ok ManxPower , I have another question, compl. diferent... |
| 03:15.25 | cesar_CR | I have an * box where I cant hear MusicOnHold... |
| 03:15.26 | ManxPower | generally panasonic phone systems don't use POTS phones |
| 03:16.14 | cesar_CR | well here I find 2 types of Pana phones |
| 03:16.50 | cesar_CR | the normal ones, I can plug those on a regular POTS line... |
| 03:16.55 | ManxPower | cesar_CR: If you can plug the phone into a standard analog phone line from the telco then it should be able to work with Asterisk. |
| 03:17.17 | cesar_CR | and the "digital" that one I am shure will not work with * |
| 03:17.27 | cesar_CR | ok ManxPower |
| 03:18.34 | cesar_CR | I will try pluging them on a standar line before |
| 03:20.16 | cesar_CR | wich reasons for not hearing MusiconHold ? |
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| 03:35.59 | Hamburglr | -signat |
| 03:36.05 | Hamburglr | -sipnat |
| 03:36.52 | Hamburglr | how do I access the bot stuff? |
| 03:37.21 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 03:37.21 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 03:37.26 | Hamburglr | thanks |
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| 04:05.52 | tvirus | Randomly, at night, I'm getting spiked FXO channels on my TDM410P (Dahdi 2.0). I have to shut down asterisk and restart dahdi, kind of annoying. Nothing I searched for online shows anything about this, is there anyway to debug it or find a cause? |
| 04:06.53 | tvirus | Think I'm going to switch motherboards and build a new PC. |
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| 04:07.53 | JohnnyScarlet | Hey guys, what was the link to that jerjerguide thingy? it was this awesome newbie how-to...but i was at a different pc at the time i was reviewing it |
| 04:08.40 | jaytee | ~jerjer |
| 04:08.41 | jbot | rumour has it, jerjer is the guy who runs nufone |
| 04:08.56 | JohnnyScarlet | nufone? |
| 04:09.09 | jaytee | rumour has it! |
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| 04:09.39 | JohnnyScarlet | please be patient with me... new to asterisk, i know the possibilities, of it but never set one up...still elarning jargon and companies and phones |
| 04:09.46 | JohnnyScarlet | ~jerjerguide |
| 04:09.47 | jbot | [~jerjerguide ] Jeremy McNamara's quick sample guide to setting up * : http://www.jeremy-mcnamara.com/2007/02/26/how-to-configure-asterisk-your-first-installation/ |
| 04:09.53 | JohnnyScarlet | there we be |
| 04:11.02 | JohnnyScarlet | Oh, can someone help clear something up for me? |
| 04:11.42 | jaytee | fine, although I don't understand how you being new to Asterisk you could know the possibilities of Asterisk. I've been using it for almost 2 years now and I still find the possibilities to almost endless |
| 04:12.02 | JohnnyScarlet | I'm goign to be using my broadvoice accounts. I read that SIP accounts only handle the initial communication but don't transport the "media", so I need that IAX stuff setup? |
| 04:12.18 | orkid | no |
| 04:12.28 | JohnnyScarlet | I've been reading up on it's features and options, but have yet to implement it |
| 04:12.38 | orkid | unless u have nat i think. but u can usually get around it |
| 04:12.39 | jaytee | no, SIP negotiates the setup of the call, RTP transports the media streams |
| 04:12.40 | orkid | afaik |
| 04:12.41 | JohnnyScarlet | orkid, could you explain for me please? |
| 04:12.48 | orkid | like jaytee said |
| 04:12.54 | JohnnyScarlet | ahhh ok kewl. thanks |
| 04:12.58 | jaytee | IAX is a trunking protocol |
| 04:13.18 | JohnnyScarlet | now RTP is just modules/functiopns built within Asterisk? or am i wrong |
| 04:13.20 | jaytee | but it can be used in place of standard SIP |
| 04:13.33 | [TK]D-Fender | IAX2 is a signalling & media protocol. |
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| 04:13.44 | JohnnyScarlet | wait... jaytee whats that about IAX substituting SIP? |
| 04:13.55 | [TK]D-Fender | JohnnyScarlet: No, RTP is what carries the actual voice |
| 04:14.37 | [TK]D-Fender | JohnnyScarlet: SIP sets up the call, Allows you to Hold, transfer, etc. RTP carries the actual voice that is directed by SIP |
| 04:14.41 | JohnnyScarlet | thanks for the clarification [TK]D-Fender, but asterisk takes care of that or I have to configure that? |
| 04:15.00 | jaytee | ~book |
| 04:15.00 | jbot | rumour has it, book is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook |
| 04:15.07 | [TK]D-Fender | JohnnyScarlet: Best to put this out of your mind right now. |
| 04:15.38 | JohnnyScarlet | but isn't this basic stuff I should know? or am I fretting over details at the moment? |
| 04:15.41 | [TK]D-Fender | JohnnyScarlet: You're thinking far too technical for things that will likely not matter to you |
| 04:15.51 | [TK]D-Fender | JohnnyScarlet: Yes, you're fretting over nothign right now :) |
| 04:15.56 | JohnnyScarlet | hehe thx |
| 04:16.15 | drmessano | Anyone use TFTP32 here? |
| 04:16.21 | drmessano | Anyone use TFTPD32 here? |
| 04:16.26 | JohnnyScarlet | I jsut want things to proceed smoothly with my setup is all. So i'm reading up this weekend so I can dive right back in the project on monday |
| 04:16.34 | jaytee | just read the book, it'll give you a good overview and don't fret over the deep stuff yet. |
| 04:16.41 | orkid | u just set up sip phones, for example, and asterisk sets up , through sip, the rtp media streams, and tells the sip clients about them, and then they communicate |
| 04:17.01 | orkid | there's a chapter about telephony technology in there too |
| 04:17.18 | orkid | drmessano: i think ive used it once |
| 04:17.35 | JohnnyScarlet | Thanks orkid |
| 04:17.42 | drmessano | "once" doesnt help me much |
| 04:17.52 | orkid | hey, u wanted to know |
| 04:17.53 | drmessano | I wasnt asking like "Show of hands if youve heard of it" |
| 04:17.57 | JohnnyScarlet | ok guys I'll go abck to reading up some more, thanks again guys |
| 04:18.25 | orkid | oh sorry, .use. :P |
| 04:18.26 | drmessano | Since orkid doesn't understand english, "Anyone here regularly use TFTPD32?" |
| 04:18.29 | orkid | whatev |
| 04:18.41 | jaytee | nope |
| 04:19.03 | drmessano | Stupid fucking thing doesnt log errors |
| 04:19.17 | drmessano | or I am an idiot and dont have it set up correctly to do so |
| 04:19.20 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Perhaps you should complain to the authors. |
| 04:19.21 | drmessano | Probably the later.. |
| 04:19.28 | jaytee | I use vsftp for provisioning and I've used SolarWinds TFTP on Winders but other than that not much else |
| 04:19.50 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Of I could just ask in here if someone uses it and maybe they could help me with my problem? |
| 04:20.09 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Odds are low... |
| 04:20.23 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: make your saving roll ;) |
| 04:20.48 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, since it's the most common TFTPd on windows, and people use TFTP for provisioning phones, I'd say the odds were low |
| 04:20.50 | [TK]D-Fender | pwns drmessano for 3D20 + 5,000,000 damage! ZING!!!!!!! |
| 04:21.38 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: And give they provision phones for * and their * server tends NOT to be Windows it makes perfect sense that a Windows PC would be serving up the configs |
| 04:21.45 | [TK]D-Fender | given* |
| 04:22.43 | jaytee | so IAX2 isn't a trunking protocol? that damn Leif Madsen and his book of lies! :-) |
| 04:22.56 | drmessano | Yeah, because no one stores their master configs on another server or PC? |
| 04:23.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: poor choice of words |
| 04:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Windows? EW |
| 04:23.13 | drmessano | heh ok |
| 04:23.22 | drmessano | Im sure no one uses Pumpkin either |
| 04:23.34 | drmessano | Come out of your cave |
| 04:23.42 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Why make your telephony solution dependant upon yet another server? |
| 04:23.45 | drmessano | Its bright and airy out here |
| 04:24.15 | jaytee | I saw packages of Pumpkin Peeps at the store. Same as the yellow chick marshmallow peeps they have at Easter but these were Pumpkins and orange. |
| 04:24.17 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: I'm sure you can find a few more really neat ways to introduce points of failure if you try a tiny bit! |
| 04:24.38 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Sure, because we all use ONE box for our telephony solution |
| 04:24.50 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Only 99% of us :) |
| 04:24.53 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: and theres nothing like storing ONE copy of your configs on ONE box |
| 04:25.20 | drmessano | heh ok |
| 04:25.43 | drmessano | Believe it or not.. some people actually use multiple asterisk servers |
| 04:25.47 | drmessano | I know thats hard to believe |
| 04:25.54 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: If its really important, backup on 1.44mb floppies ;) |
| 04:25.55 | drmessano | But its true.. even saw it in a book |
| 04:27.16 | coppice | if its really important use 250kB 8" floppies |
| 04:27.22 | drmessano | I am trying to find the ISBN number, but I think it was called "Asterisk: Some people create solutions and not just PBX'ed out of it (no really). Second Edition" |
| 04:27.29 | jeev | why not write it in paper |
| 04:27.33 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: IAX isn't particularly special. It just encapsulates RTP onto a single port and can aggregate channels going to the same host for BW savings. calling it a "trunk protocol" is not really meaningful |
| 04:28.16 | coppice | bundling calls is exactly what trunking means |
| 04:28.19 | drmessano | I'm sure all your Cisco configs are safely tucked away in the second flash slot on your routers too ;) |
| 04:28.35 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: I used to format my 360/1.2's single sided and save on the B side. Nobody ever thinks to flip them. |
| 04:29.22 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: I would.... if my company didn't force us to use our slot-less SonicWALL POS. |
| 04:29.35 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, I know it uses the same port for call setup and media streams and it can handle single calls to IAX softphones or hardphones like SIP does but it also can trunk multiple calls with a single header between servers so if that isn't trunking I want my money for the book back. |
| 04:30.28 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Thats what it does, I just didn't see the use of that term for it. |
| 04:31.04 | jaytee | well, if you ever felt like wasting your time for no money and wrote a book you could count on at least one person buying a copy :-) |
| 04:31.42 | JohnnyScarlet | Dang, i just peeped in to get an update and my head is spinning, I get the RPG referneces, the old hardware/media references,a nd the innuendo of a pissing contest, but the rest is greek to me |
| 04:31.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I've considered slowly blogging my own for some time now.. |
| 04:31.52 | fall0ut | iax doesn't scale :( |
| 04:32.01 | jaytee | I wonder if Leif and Jared have made enough money to even pay for an oil change |
| 04:32.15 | drmessano | IAX doesn't scale? |
| 04:32.38 | JohnnyScarlet | Jared the SubWay guy?... he can just squeeze one of them 12" subs for oil |
| 04:33.01 | jaytee | Jared lives about 9 miles from me. |
| 04:33.24 | JohnnyScarlet | at 5$/sandwich... not saving money on oil, I think you can get some quakerstate for like 2.70 or soemthing per quart :) |
| 04:39.17 | [TK]D-Fender | fall0ut: and I love the ability of losing all calls out of my system at once :) |
| 04:40.58 | coppice | [TK]D-Fender: boy you must have a real downer on DWDM fibre |
| 04:41.45 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: is it as likely to fail as tragically? |
| 04:42.33 | coppice | well, you'd expect it to be on standard 20ms failover, but the same can be said of any high priority call handling |
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| 05:04.08 | JohnnyScarlet | ok.. so i poured over the jerjerguide and it brought me to a question about voicemail |
| 05:04.12 | SplasPood | 3g is nice |
| 05:04.42 | JohnnyScarlet | It talks about each extension have it's own voicemail... but what about a general voicemail box that is not spefici for any particular extension? |
| 05:05.03 | Winkie | I'm trying to use the 'd' flag of Dial, to be able to redirect a call to another extension while it is ringing, but this seems to be failing with no indication as to why. I don't suppose anyone has come across this and has some tips? |
| 05:05.27 | JohnnyScarlet | so if someone calls my office and jsut has a general question, but no one picks up it goes to "xyz business v-mail" as opposed to ext. 100's v-mail |
| 05:08.12 | JohnnyScarlet | what would be an example to throw into voicemail.conf for a general vmail box hat isn't extension specific |
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| 05:09.02 | Winkie | hmm, it seems to be working on a local test, maybe it's digittimeout or something, i'll keep playing with it |
| 05:11.40 | orkid | please, because i thought i was going crazy, but not i'm beginning to think there is a misunderstanding... "Winnipeg to Toronto based on the speed of light is 20-25ms." ... that does not seem true, since the distance is 2229km (through chicago, via google maps), speed of light is 299792458m/s, resulting in about 7.5ms.. now taking into account index of refraction inside fiber (1.48), it goes up to about 11ms. .. so i can see how RTT could be 20-25ms, bu |
| 05:11.54 | orkid | ? |
| 05:12.35 | JohnnyScarlet | dude....W.T.F.? lol |
| 05:13.04 | JohnnyScarlet | are you saying it's faster then stated or no? |
| 05:14.10 | JohnnyScarlet | just because google goes through chicago doesn't mean your fiber runs through chicago |
| 05:14.15 | coppice | damnit! we need faster light |
| 05:14.37 | JohnnyScarlet | bust out the vacuums |
| 05:14.43 | orkid | no, i'm just saying that a 'least distance route' is probably 2229km |
| 05:15.18 | orkid | i'm saying it's 11ms for fiber optic to travel 2229km (i dont think it's much more from toronto to winnipeg, even if you go through canada only) |
| 05:15.24 | coppice | vacuum only gives you a small improvement. the 21st century needs something radical |
| 05:15.39 | jaytee | subspace radio |
| 05:15.45 | orkid | for a signal inside fiber optic |
| 05:15.50 | orkid | and not 20-25ms |
| 05:15.58 | coppice | orkid: so a ping is 22ms. what's odd? |
| 05:16.01 | orkid | RTT is 22ms or a bit more (swithces) yes |
| 05:16.19 | orkid | what's odd? someone said 'toronto to wininpeg is 20-25ms' and i'm like wtF?! |
| 05:16.26 | orkid | so ok, i'm not insane |
| 05:16.35 | JohnnyScarlet | hehe |
| 05:16.37 | jaytee | that's still to be determined |
| 05:16.43 | orkid | my route would probably go through chicago anyway |
| 05:16.48 | orkid | at least to virginia |
| 05:16.50 | coppice | well, it probably is for IP, because of all the buffering in routers |
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| 05:17.25 | JohnnyScarlet | Speaking of vacuums Coppice, you ehar about vacuums and scotch tape making x-rays? |
| 05:17.27 | orkid | well, i did a traceroute from toronto to umanitoba.ca, and it seemed to go through MTL, and the jump between there was about 30ms, so about 15ms one way |
| 05:17.36 | orkid | ie. between MTL and a router in WPG |
| 05:17.36 | jaytee | I read about that |
| 05:17.56 | JohnnyScarlet | was jsut crazy |
| 05:18.05 | orkid | btw, fiber is around 67% of c.. according to wikipedia |
| 05:18.33 | jaytee | I thought they finally proved that C is not constant |
| 05:18.34 | JohnnyScarlet | jaytee, i read a story abotu a year ago about how old department stores and the craze of x-ray machines... they would have kids try on shoes and then xray the foot to see if they fit right |
| 05:18.35 | orkid | but how much xrays does a small piece make anyway? |
| 05:18.36 | coppice | its amazing how must point energy there is in a lot of daily activities, so producing x-rays from ripping off tape is maybe not so strange |
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| 05:18.59 | Grnd-Wire | good evening |
| 05:19.12 | coppice | up to the 1940s they used to x-ray like crazy, often with no medical supervision |
| 05:19.23 | JohnnyScarlet | orkid, it's good enought o check your finger tips for a fracture or soemthing :) |
| 05:19.29 | Grnd-Wire | coppice: ahh yes - the shoe salesmen |
| 05:19.34 | jaytee | some forms of granite put out enough radiation to equal a normal chest x-ray if you stand next to a large block of it for an hour. |
| 05:19.35 | JohnnyScarlet | coppice, correct. thats what i was talking about |
| 05:19.49 | JohnnyScarlet | say whats?! |
| 05:19.55 | orkid | yea i saw that pic |
| 05:20.08 | coppice | they used to take numerous x-rays of every pregnant woman, which is pretty nasty |
| 05:20.09 | jaytee | and now people are being warned about their trendy expensive granite countertops putting out radon |
| 05:20.13 | orkid | i dunno bout that.. ud need to focus the film /etc.. wouldn't you ? |
| 05:20.31 | JohnnyScarlet | so if i lay out on some rich persons granite countertop i can frizzle my giblets?! |
| 05:20.35 | orkid | but i guess if u did.. then yes. you might be able to see a frac if u had one.. focus the xrays to the film |
| 05:20.55 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: phh.. That's just Dupont trying to convince you that their unnatural materials that give off toxic fumes when burned are superior.. |
| 05:21.10 | JohnnyScarlet | we need to start selling prescription scotch tape! of course all vacuums would need eye exams |
| 05:21.12 | jaytee | Formica FTW! :-) |
| 05:21.25 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: Anything that comes out of the ground will have radon - but granite isn't porous, so how would gas be trapped inside it? |
| 05:21.38 | coppice | Formica? you mean chinese milk powder? |
| 05:21.53 | jaytee | no, that's melamine |
| 05:21.53 | JohnnyScarlet | doesn't granite get sealed anyway? |
| 05:21.58 | Grnd-Wire | so uhh - if I ask an Asterisk question, will I throw off the topic of discussion? |
| 05:22.07 | coppice | formica is melamine |
| 05:22.16 | Grnd-Wire | JohnnyBeGood: yeah, it does - I guess it actually IS porous, since you can stain it.. |
| 05:22.38 | jaytee | coppice, ok then so it's made from chinese powdered milk. still makes nice countertops |
| 05:23.08 | Grnd-Wire | I'm looking for a way to be able to get my voicemails in a last-in-first-out order.. Is there some sort of hack I can activate, or am I going to be writing something from scratch? |
| 05:23.23 | jaytee | scratch |
| 05:23.38 | Grnd-Wire | really? I can't be the only one who has asked for that? |
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| 05:23.47 | jaytee | yes, you are |
| 05:24.37 | Grnd-Wire | wow :( |
| 05:24.57 | drmessano | HA |
| 05:25.14 | coppice | melamine is used for a lot of food handling stuff, like worktops, chopsticks, bowls etc. how come it turns out to be so dangerous in food? :-\ |
| 05:25.39 | JohnnyScarlet | because we dont eat worktops, chopsticks, bowls, etc. :) |
| 05:25.54 | Grnd-Wire | coppice: It's when you actually get shredded pieces of worktop IN your food that it becoms a problem.. |
| 05:25.58 | jaytee | Grnd-Wire, it may be possible, try looking in the voicemail.sample.conf file |
| 05:26.02 | Grnd-Wire | Just coming in contact is OK |
| 05:26.05 | coppice | these things wear, and we must gradually get the power into us |
| 05:26.15 | coppice | s/power/powder |
| 05:26.40 | JohnnyScarlet | I don't know whats in your wardrobe, but I toss my counter-top winter coat back in '84 |
| 05:27.13 | drmessano | jaytee: I knew it had to be something i was doing wrong |
| 05:27.22 | jaytee | got it working? |
| 05:27.45 | JohnnyScarlet | thats enough science talk for me. mondya i'll be back with * questions :) thanks for all the help guys. remember, when in doubt, it's a PEBKAC issue |
| 05:27.51 | JohnnyScarlet | nite |
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| 05:28.37 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: I'm in the app_voicemail.c file to see if there is anything in here that I can easily modify.. (even though I don't do C :( ) .. I'll look through the sample conf file after I get through this. |
| 05:30.24 | Grnd-Wire | hmm.. IMAP mail storage? Why have I not heard of this before.. Is it supported, or still experimental? |
| 05:30.42 | drmessano | Yeah I did |
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| 05:32.55 | Ericounet | hello |
| 05:33.12 | Grnd-Wire | heh.. What if I wrote a script to renumber all of the messages in descending order - and it was launched from the externnotify.. So what just got left as message 25 becomes message number #1, and the oldest message becomes #25 |
| 05:33.37 | drmessano | jaytee: How about.. nothing to log... |
| 05:34.17 | drmessano | jaytee: The TFTPd I am using has a small DHCPd built in, part of why I chose it.. and it wasn't giving a router options to the PAP2s |
| 05:34.25 | drmessano | so therefore, they werent phoning home |
| 05:34.27 | drmessano | So no log |
| 05:35.42 | jaytee | ah |
| 05:36.04 | jaytee | how'd you figure that out without the log? |
| 05:42.10 | jaytee | Grnd-Wire, if you really are determined to change the order from FIFO to LIFO for the voicemails I suppose that script might work. Me, I just look in my Outlook inbox and pick the most recent voicemail attached message. |
| 05:42.47 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: yeah, but I'm on the road and don't have the luxury of the e-mail integration. I need it to work through my phone.. Otherwise, that works as well. :) |
| 05:42.55 | jaytee | I didn't see anything that would give you the option to reorder from the voicemail.conf |
| 05:43.40 | Grnd-Wire | I actually can't believe that someone else hasn't asked for this before.. It's pretty common for upper level management to have a TON of messages in their mailboxes. |
| 05:45.17 | jaytee | yeah, and I know for a fact that I'd much rather get the message from ten minutes ago telling me that the meeting at 5 pm is cancelled before I get the message from 2 hours ago telling me that there's been a meeting scheduled for 5pm because I love going, "what frigging meeting is he talking about?" |
| 05:46.20 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: and that's why it'd be nice to be able to control how it works.. Of course, if I have to hack the source code or reorder all of the voicemails - then it's not going to support that either way. |
| 05:47.20 | jaytee | most voicemail systems work that way and that's also why they have an option to press a key to skip to the next message |
| 05:47.45 | jaytee | and another key to go back to the previous message |
| 05:48.09 | jaytee | and then someone requested a fast forward because they're boss was a long-winded verbose assbag |
| 05:48.29 | Grnd-Wire | uh huh.. Login to my mailbox sometime.. I have to press skip 98 times to get to the message that was just left (from someone that I actually want to talk to) |
| 05:48.38 | Grnd-Wire | hehe.. I know that feeling.. |
| 05:49.29 | jaytee | CallPilot voicemail on Nortel Meridian systems works the same way. So does the voicemail on Exchange 2007 Unified Messaging |
| 05:49.46 | jaytee | never tried Avaya but I imagine that's the same too |
| 05:50.09 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: dude - I'm not saying that those voicemail systems work that way.. but here's the deal.. I use Asterisk because I can make it operate the way I (or any of my clients) want to.. |
| 05:51.22 | Grnd-Wire | I want LIFO just like when I am on the road.. I get random access when I am using e-mail, and I need that remotely as well.. Now I'm just trying to find the best/most correct method to accomplish that. |
| 05:51.22 | jaytee | so rewrite the source code and then publish it. better yet, make the code flexible so you can set an option in voicemail.conf and then share it with the rest of us and become a true open-source hero. |
| 05:51.33 | coppice | are the voicemails hard to understand if you play them backwards? :-\ |
| 05:51.54 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: Sounds great.. About all you're going to get out of me in a Perl/shell script posted to voipinfo.org |
| 05:52.12 | Grnd-Wire | coppice: heh - When you hear the boss saying "turn me on dead man" it is kinda creepy I suppose? |
| 05:52.24 | Grnd-Wire | coppice: My favorite is "Satan eats cheese whiz" |
| 05:52.39 | jaytee | there may actually be an option for the retrieval order but I didn't see it in the conf file but the documentation tends to be kinda shitty for most things |
| 05:53.38 | Grnd-Wire | jaytee: That's why I'm looking through the source code.. There's no way I could modify this to be useful - but I can read comments and DEFINE statements.. |
| 05:56.37 | coppice | Grnd-Wire: according to the Rolling Stones, Satan is a man of wealth and taste. why would he eat cheese whiz? I think that's a fake |
| 05:57.07 | Grnd-Wire | coppice: hehe.. It's actually from a Weird Al song called "Nature Trail to Hell" |
| 05:57.37 | Grnd-Wire | There is a section where there is talking backwards - and when I was younger I actually recorded off of the tape, and used SoundForge to reverse it.. |
| 06:00.39 | jaytee | Grnd-Wire, I just made a test and found out something. My voicemail plays back the most recent message first and then older messages in the order they were recieved from newest to oldest. |
| 06:01.28 | jaytee | but then I use Exchange 2007 Unified Messaging with Asterisk |
| 06:01.28 | Grnd-Wire | Say what? Are you serious? You're telling me it already works the way I want it to? |
| 06:01.50 | Grnd-Wire | ooh.. So you don't call the VoiceMail() application then, do you? |
| 06:02.34 | jaytee | nope, I use SipAddHeader to add a Diversion notify and then call the Exchange server through a sipX proxy |
| 06:03.43 | Grnd-Wire | ok - Well sadly there's not much of a chance in getting them to upgrade to E2K7 |
| 06:04.26 | jaytee | you lose the MWI function on the phones though unless you get a third party app that costs 1800 bucks so Microsoft didn't think of everything. |
| 06:04.49 | Grnd-Wire | holy crap.. What's the app called? |
| 06:05.23 | jaytee | there's a couple. one from Geomant, that's the 1800 dollar one and another from Interactive Intelligence and I didn't get pricing from them. |
| 06:05.37 | jaytee | the Geomant one is called MWI2007 |
| 06:06.10 | Grnd-Wire | heh.. I'm a fan of just letting Asterisk do the work - especially now that there is this fancy IMAP storage that I didn't realize was in 1.4 |
| 06:06.14 | jaytee | and all it does is watch for new voicemail in outlook inboxes and sends a SIP Notify MWI header to the phone |
| 06:06.37 | jaytee | your perl script idea might be the best route |
| 06:06.37 | Grnd-Wire | Exactly.. You could probably write something to do the same thing, using IMAP to get into the Exchange boxes |
| 06:07.34 | jaytee | I was looking at using inbox rules to run a vbscript that uses sipsak to send the SIP Notify but I'm not that ambitious about it at the moment. |
| 06:08.18 | coppice | Gmd-Wire: so, thanks to you and youtube nature trail to hell in 3D just consumed 5:47 of my existance |
| 06:09.01 | jaytee | coppice, if you really like wasting your time you should get a Facebook account |
| 06:09.29 | Grnd-Wire | coppice: umm - Sorry? :) |
| 06:10.05 | Grnd-Wire | coppice: To my knowledge there was no official music video - so I wonder what you were watching? |
| 06:15.53 | jaytee | goodnite all |
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| 06:43.15 | coppice | Grnd-Wire: standard youtube fare: a perfectly good song with someone's crappy visuals :-) |
| 06:43.23 | coppice | s/fare/fayre |
| 06:43.48 | Grnd-Wire | hehe.. Yeah - but did you see the one that appeared to be a highschool talent show? |
| 06:44.07 | Grnd-Wire | It was actually a very impressive cover of the song - even though the visuals truly were terrible. |
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| 06:44.57 | coppice | the one I clicked on use some anime, which I ignored afetr the first few seconds |
| 06:45.48 | Grnd-Wire | ahh ok |
| 06:46.08 | Grnd-Wire | ok - Have a good evening.. I'm out of here |
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| 06:59.17 | jc_yyz2bkk | whats the best language to learn about AGI? |
| 07:04.23 | jeev | http://x.jeev.net/diag.jpg do you guys like that ? :D its my asterisk network! |
| 07:12.29 | drmessano | Only 2 servers/ |
| 07:12.30 | drmessano | ? |
| 07:13.14 | drmessano | I guess its a start.. |
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| 07:23.55 | mayo | hello |
| 07:24.10 | mayo | any of you play with lua diaplans yet? |
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| 07:35.20 | drmessano | HA the RTP300 does Fax? |
| 07:36.15 | drmessano | That is hilarious |
| 07:38.44 | coppice | in what way is that humorous? |
| 07:43.28 | drmessano | Because I got 2 of them for under $20 and they both do T.38 |
| 07:43.45 | drmessano | One I got for $3 |
| 07:44.15 | coppice | they are quite capable. they are one of the few boxes to do the full G.729 (not the crippled A version) and G.729E |
| 07:44.27 | drmessano | Nice |
| 07:44.58 | drmessano | See, because of the size, and lack of wireless, I had written it off as oversized ATA.. I had them sitting in the closet collecting dust |
| 07:46.15 | drmessano | I got the NA firmware, performed the HEX edit on it, and loaded it on both |
| 07:46.23 | drmessano | So they're completely off the radar now |
| 07:46.32 | drmessano | and covered in dust... |
| 07:46.36 | drmessano | lol |
| 07:46.40 | drmessano | But thats cool |
| 07:47.06 | drmessano | I need to see if I can find a home for this one I have taken apart |
| 07:47.36 | drmessano | Needs to have the firmware JTAG'ed onto it because the FW is too new to be unlocked using the common methods |
| 07:47.52 | drmessano | and I just have no time to even begin to mess with it |
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| 08:32.45 | jc_yyz2bkk | hi i added exten => 300,n,agi(agi-test.agi) to extensions_custom.conf, but when i dial 300 from xlite, i don't hear anything |
| 08:33.18 | jc_yyz2bkk | any ideas? |
| 08:43.37 | jc_yyz2bkk | when i try 301 i get a service unavailable message |
| 08:43.49 | jc_yyz2bkk | i can make calls between extensions |
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| 08:56.00 | redax | hi, |
| 08:57.31 | redax | if I'd like to specify the out CLID on a trunk, I'll have false 'src' and 'clid' information in the CDR, *(I loose the original extension who's the caller) |
| 08:57.48 | redax | how to workaround this? use a ResetCDR() before I override the CallerID ? |
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| 09:23.45 | WimpMan | redax: If it's a SIP trunk I think you can set the ID in sip.conf. |
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| 09:25.43 | redax | WimpMan: I see, but still not solving the problem with multiple DID. |
| 09:25.55 | WimpMan | Hmmm. But I have one IAX connectin where I replace the number, but my logs still show the original number. So not sure we're talking about the same thing here. |
| 09:26.22 | redax | WimpMan: ok, I can figure out the if clid is 003, then the extension who's called is '103' :) |
| 09:26.25 | redax | but that's annoying |
| 09:26.55 | redax | I'm replacing the ${CALLERID(number)} part... |
| 09:27.26 | WimpMan | That's what I do. But that does not affect my CDRs. |
| 09:28.19 | WimpMan | So you are not replacing with one number but doing a mapping of multiple numbers to a set of others? |
| 09:28.19 | redax | I tried to reset to the original callerid at hangup state, but seems like after hangup, the src/clid part is locked. ie changing the Callerid doesn't affects what stored in the CDR |
| 09:29.11 | redax | yep. isdn pri, 100 numbers. did mapped to exts |
| 09:30.29 | redax | do I need ResetCDR(w) at hangup part of my dialplan? |
| 09:30.49 | redax | does it anyway written to the CDR/ |
| 09:30.51 | redax | ? |
| 09:31.02 | chaozer | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.16 | WimpMan | Are you doing anything else? As I said it works for me out of the box. |
| 09:31.26 | redax | strange. |
| 09:31.34 | chaozer | what exactly does that mean ? |
| 09:32.16 | redax | chaozer: you need 's' extension in play-welcome context |
| 09:32.37 | chaozer | redax, yeah and I have exactly that :) |
| 09:32.39 | redax | exten => s,1,Playback(welcome) or whatever |
| 09:32.59 | redax | maybe you have multiple s,1,.... lines |
| 09:33.09 | WimpMan | chaozer: It means exactely what it says. The requested extension "s" does not exist nor does the catchall invalid extension "i". |
| 09:33.35 | chaozer | .. im using the realtime extension stuff.. so its in a table... |
| 09:33.40 | chaozer | looking like this... |
| 09:34.00 | WimpMan | chaozer: Are you in the correct context? |
| 09:34.13 | redax | afaik if you have multiple prio '1' it results the like if you don't have any |
| 09:34.29 | chaozer | im doing a gosub to play-welcome,s,1 |
| 09:34.48 | chaozer | it looks like this right now .... |
| 09:35.24 | chaozer | ID: 250 context: play-welcome exten: s priority: 1 app: playback appData: valkommen |
| 09:35.48 | chaozer | ID: 251 context: play-welcome exten: s priority: 2 app: return appData: |
| 09:36.39 | chaozer | and I do a.... Gosub play-welcome|s|1 .. from the default context. |
| 09:38.21 | chaozer | i dont get it :) |
| 09:38.24 | WimpMan | chaozer: Looks ok to me, but I haven't got a clue about possible pitfalls with realtime. |
| 09:38.39 | chaozer | WimpMan, mm... first time im using it here... |
| 09:41.28 | redax | ok |
| 09:41.47 | redax | seems like I use Set(CALLERID(all)=${USERCID}) |
| 09:42.08 | redax | USERCID comes from an agi script |
| 09:42.48 | WimpMan | redax: Ok, so restrict that to CALLERID(num). I think that will do the trick. |
| 09:43.16 | redax | WimpMan: do you use ResetCDR anywhere in your dialplan btw? |
| 09:43.23 | WimpMan | You're also overwriting CALLERID(ani) or what it's called. |
| 09:43.28 | WimpMan | No |
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| 09:44.04 | WimpMan | Only a set CALLERID(num) and da Dial(). End. |
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| 09:47.49 | chaozer | DOH |
| 09:48.02 | chaozer | contexts have to be *egistered ? |
| 09:48.21 | chaozer | i mean they have to be defined in extensions.conf alongside the database ? |
| 09:49.12 | WimpMan | nfi. I don't see much point in realtime. |
| 09:49.48 | redax | never used realtime... |
| 09:51.31 | redax | doh |
| 09:51.39 | redax | WimpMan: thanks. setting CALLERID(all) was the fault |
| 09:51.54 | chaozer | ok .. that was the problem :) |
| 09:51.59 | chaozer | that fixed it ;) |
| 09:52.23 | WimpMan | Wrong information. |
| 09:52.31 | redax | huh? |
| 09:52.47 | WimpMan | You said you set the callerid(number) before, when it was callerid(all). |
| 09:53.34 | redax | yep, but after I said, I'm setting Callerid(all) nor number |
| 09:53.47 | redax | not |
| 09:54.40 | redax | anyhow thanks. good to remember for the different behaviour when setting just callerid(num) and callerid(all) |
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| 10:16.57 | jc_yyz2bkk | hi i added exten => 300,n,agi(agi-test.agi) to extensions_custom.conf, but when i dial 300 from xlite, i don't hear anything |
| 10:17.27 | jc_yyz2bkk | how can i start to debug this? |
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| 10:32.25 | jc_yyz2bkk | the call gets answered, but i think the script isnt working |
| 10:35.05 | jc_yyz2bkk | nevermind, found agi debug |
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| 10:49.11 | kerx | hi, i'm passing SetCDRUserField() and for some reason it is not being logged in either my postgres database or in my Master.csv file |
| 10:49.45 | kerx | Also, I have something weird w/ my CDR stuff going on, that even when I take a phone call it places "NO ANSWERED" in the CDR Master.csv file |
| 10:49.52 | kerx | Anyone know where I should start to debug this? |
| 10:53.33 | hi365 | when I frist set up my polycom, I was able to see different icons for a remote extension ringing (vs. busy). Anyone know what I need to set to get these icons back? |
| 10:59.34 | jc_yyz2bkk | is anyone familiar with amazon ec2? |
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| 11:22.16 | jc_yyz2bkk | im getting no sound with xlite any ideas? |
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| 12:07.05 | write__erase | Is there an Asterisk command to check if clock source is detected ? (I installed ztdummy module, zttest is OK, 99.9x precision), but I'd like to ensure Asterisk uses that ! thx |
| 12:11.23 | [netman] | doesn't zapata tools scripts do? At least, using from debian, if I haven't any zaptel card, automatically loads ztdummy for me |
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| 12:15.43 | n3glv_lap | konichi-wa |
| 12:16.00 | n3glv_lap | is it possible to assert a useragent= inside a trunk config? |
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| 12:40.01 | JT | write__erase: 99.9what%? |
| 12:43.17 | tzafrir_laptop | write__erase, what version of asterisk? |
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| 12:53.39 | write__erase | tzafrir_laptop, Asterisk 1.4 and 1.6 requires a clock source (hardware or ztdummy) don't they ? |
| 12:54.03 | tzafrir_laptop | latest 1.4 and all 1.6, yes |
| 12:54.18 | write__erase | jt: Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy... |
| 12:54.18 | write__erase | 99.995995% 99.989357% 99.996582% 99.995316% 99.995117% |
| 12:54.19 | tzafrir_laptop | but you do have a working clock source |
| 12:54.32 | tzafrir_laptop | what version of asterisk do you have? |
| 12:55.02 | write__erase | tzafrir_laptop, I run asterisk 1.4.21.2 |
| 12:55.45 | write__erase | tzafrir_laptop, and i read that a clock source was required for some apps like meetme .... |
| 12:55.59 | tzafrir_laptop | that version will panic at startup if it fails to find a zap clock source. Does it panic? |
| 12:56.45 | write__erase | No |
| 12:57.04 | tzafrir_laptop | So I figure you should be OK |
| 12:57.06 | write__erase | But this setup has mIsdn B410p |
| 12:57.29 | tzafrir_laptop | hmm.... it will not use the card as a timing source, sadly |
| 12:57.56 | tzafrir_laptop | There's a patch for doing so, but I haven't seen anybody from Digium picking it up |
| 12:57.58 | write__erase | tzafrir_laptop, my main problem is that meetme dont' work in my setup |
| 12:58.11 | write__erase | and I read that it could be caused by a clock missing |
| 12:58.13 | tzafrir_laptop | What error do you get? |
| 12:58.46 | write__erase | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:58.46 | write__erase | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.21 | write__erase | meetme.conf : [default] |
| 12:59.21 | write__erase | conf => 9938 |
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| 13:00.13 | write__erase | [Oct 26 12:58:30] DEBUG[19959] app_meetme.c: 9938 isn't a valid conference |
| 13:00.27 | Hamburglr | is G.711 mu-law called ulaw in asterisk? |
| 13:00.30 | Maliuta | ~patse |
| 13:00.34 | Maliuta | ~paste |
| 13:00.35 | jbot | methinks paste is http://rafb.net/paste/, or see also pb |
| 13:10.41 | write__erase | tzafrir_laptop, It's fixed now... I'm not sure if it's because of ztdummy installation or a fix in the configuration file |
| 13:12.10 | tzafrir_laptop | Hamburglr, yes, it's called ulaw |
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| 13:37.05 | hi365 | anyone have access to the lates polycom firmwares? Im looking for 3.1... |
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| 13:49.30 | Hamburglr | thanks tzafrir_laptop |
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| 14:34.47 | kim0 | If I get a DID number in Country XYZ, Does that means my calls to this Country XYZ will be charged for a local call ? |
| 14:35.59 | hi365 | yup |
| 14:39.22 | kim0 | cool |
| 14:39.54 | kim0 | Any recommended ITSP provider in belgium ? |
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| 15:03.29 | MaliutaLap | kim0: it also depends on the deal that the provider gives you |
| 15:04.01 | kim0 | MaliutaLap: for getting local calls in XYZ ? |
| 15:04.55 | kim0 | Anywhere I can find ratings and comments on providers |
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| 15:09.36 | MaliutaLap | kim0: the call charges depend on the provider ... here in .au I can get deals anywhere from $0.08 untimed to all landlines to $0.08/minute timed to all landlines |
| 15:09.55 | MaliutaLap | kim0: when you find providers you need to look at all the fine print |
| 15:09.56 | kim0 | ick |
| 15:10.16 | kim0 | that's why I wanted provider ratings |
| 15:10.23 | MaliutaLap | kim0: there might be some listings on the wiki, otherwise use google |
| 15:10.27 | MaliutaLap | ~wiki |
| 15:10.33 | kim0 | ah |
| 15:10.35 | kim0 | thanks |
| 15:12.03 | MaliutaLap | ~thewiki |
| 15:12.03 | jbot | thewiki is, like, at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk |
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| 15:50.54 | zchaos | the power light on my linksys SPA2102 keeps blinking ... that probably isnt normal eh? |
| 15:56.52 | [netman] | i don't think so |
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| 15:57.39 | xchaos | err got disconnected |
| 15:57.48 | xchaos | so yeah the power light on my spa2102 wouldn't stop blinking |
| 15:57.59 | xchaos | but then i plugged in the internet connection |
| 15:58.02 | xchaos | and it stopped blinking |
| 15:58.06 | xchaos | is this normal behaviour? |
| 15:58.47 | [netman] | yes, it is |
| 15:59.02 | xchaos | oh |
| 15:59.14 | xchaos | well then i should probably recall that nsaty email i sent to the suppplier |
| 15:59.21 | xchaos | ha... :P ah it wasn't nasty |
| 15:59.25 | xchaos | coolio |
| 15:59.31 | xchaos | thanks netman |
| 16:01.28 | [TK]D-Fender | I believe it does that when it doesn't get an address... |
| 16:13.59 | xchaos | thx |
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| 16:29.52 | hi365 | anyone know whay a polycom would report: Downloaded application image is incompatible in the log file? |
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| 16:36.07 | jeev | hi365 |
| 16:36.15 | jeev | have you read the manual for upgrading the polycom ? |
| 16:36.25 | hi365 | i dont have the manual for 3.1 |
| 16:36.57 | jeev | ~google polycom 330 |
| 16:37.01 | jeev | !oogle polycom 330 |
| 16:37.05 | jeev | !google polycom 330 |
| 16:37.19 | jeev | http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/support/voice/soundpoint_ip/soundpoint_ip330_320.html |
| 16:37.22 | jeev | wher do you see 3.1 |
| 16:37.29 | jeev | h |
| 16:38.20 | jeev | pastebin your log file. |
| 16:39.44 | hi365 | jeev: first of all. im not using a 330. second 3.1 isnt publicly avalible |
| 16:40.09 | jeev | ah |
| 16:40.14 | jeev | what a stupid assumption on my part |
| 16:40.16 | jeev | pastebin your log |
| 16:40.41 | hi365 | jeev: http://pastebin.ca/1237025 |
| 16:41.30 | jeev | sp |
| 16:41.34 | jeev | so out of all the files, do you have 2345-12600-001.sip.ld |
| 16:42.13 | hi365 | yes (i actualy deleted it this second, so that the phone can try sip.ld (which i doubt will work either)) |
| 16:42.32 | jeev | just to be safe, i dunno, i'd rm sip.ld and put 2345-12600-001.sip.ld |
| 16:42.49 | hi365 | yeh, but its telling me that its invalid |
| 16:43.14 | jeev | even 2345-12600-001.sip.ld ? |
| 16:43.15 | jeev | or just sip.ld |
| 16:43.40 | hi365 | the pastebin shows that 2345-12600-001.sip.ld is invalid (and so its obviously there) |
| 16:43.45 | jeev | oh |
| 16:43.53 | jeev | # |
| 16:43.53 | jeev | 1107093120|copy |4|00|Download of '2345-12600-001.sip.ld' FAILED on attempt 1 |
| 16:43.53 | jeev | # |
| 16:43.53 | jeev | 1107093120|cfg |4|00|Could not get all 512 bytes of the header |
| 16:43.53 | jeev | # |
| 16:43.54 | jeev | 1107093120|copy |3|00|'tftp://192.168.10.210/sip.ld' from '192.168.10.210' |
| 16:44.01 | jeev | how is that file invalid if it failed to download |
| 16:44.03 | hi365 | Application 2345-12600-001.sip.ld is not is incompatible with the phone. |
| 16:44.07 | jeev | why do you tftp the file ??? |
| 16:44.14 | hi365 | vs. ? |
| 16:44.15 | jeev | you really shouldn't download through tftp dood |
| 16:44.17 | jeev | FTP |
| 16:44.25 | hi365 | why not? |
| 16:44.31 | hi365 | Application sip.ld is not is incompatible with the phone. |
| 16:44.46 | hi365 | :( |
| 16:44.47 | jeev | first |
| 16:44.54 | jeev | do you know how to make it download from ftp |
| 16:44.57 | jeev | if so, set it up for ftp |
| 16:45.06 | jeev | i thought i read tftp isn't recommended for this shit |
| 16:45.15 | jaytee | tftp can't read date/timestamps and will try to download regardless of whether it already has that file version |
| 16:45.25 | hi365 | has never had a problem releated to tftp befor |
| 16:45.34 | jaytee | Polycom recommends FTP |
| 16:45.36 | jeev | i use tftp for files like <5 kb |
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| 16:45.54 | hi365 | my closest ftp server is 250ms+ away... |
| 16:46.07 | jeev | uh |
| 16:46.11 | jeev | what is your tftp server |
| 16:46.14 | jeev | youc ant set up ftpd on it ? |
| 16:46.54 | jaytee | and if you change the sip.ld or 2345-12600-001.ld file from one to the other you have to modify the master MACADDRESS.cfg file for that phone on the CONFIGFILES= line to point to the correct file. |
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| 16:47.58 | hi365 | actualy, you dont. the phone searches for its specifc file, and takes the sip.ld if it doesnt find it |
| 16:48.12 | jeev | yea jaytee |
| 16:48.14 | jeev | the phone checks |
| 16:48.28 | jeev | it grabs the hardware id or some shit and tries to download |
| 16:48.32 | jeev | that's pretty cool, i like that feature |
| 16:48.59 | jaytee | really? i thought it had to be specified |
| 16:49.04 | ManxPower | hugs all 250 Polycoms he manages. |
| 16:49.04 | hi365 | nope |
| 16:49.05 | jeev | nope |
| 16:49.06 | jeev | it could be |
| 16:49.21 | hi365 | ManxPower: do you have access to the new 3.1 firmware? |
| 16:49.30 | jeev | thinks ManxPower has 250 grandstreams. |
| 16:49.34 | hi365 | jaytee: read the provisoining documentation |
| 16:49.45 | ManxPower | hi365: I might. Why? |
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| 16:50.55 | ManxPower | We stopped upgrading after a few 2.1 releases |
| 16:50.58 | jaytee | hi365, thanks for the suggestion. I've read the provisioning docs including the whitepaper. I must have missed the part where it says it checks for the custom version of sip.ld for each phone and if it can't find it downloads the sip.ld |
| 16:51.02 | hi365 | ManxPower: If you have access, ide presume you have access to the release notes as well. Ide like to see if there is something im missing there |
| 16:51.25 | ManxPower | hi365: Let me see if I can find my login id for Polycom |
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| 16:51.27 | hi365 | there is some nice new things which ide like to deploy |
| 16:51.30 | hi365 | thanks |
| 16:51.47 | jeev | jaytee, i think it checks before trying sip.ld ;) |
| 16:52.05 | jeev | hi365, what's the difference on 3.1 ? |
| 16:52.19 | hi365 | phone, brb |
| 16:52.23 | jaytee | jeev, on which version? I using 2.2.0 |
| 16:52.37 | jeev | i noticed it on all versions if i recall |
| 16:52.40 | jeev | i duno, i dont care, blahblahbhlab |
| 16:52.42 | jeev | my failover shit > * |
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| 16:53.16 | ManxPower | hi365: I can't find my login info. |
| 16:54.04 | hi365 | :( |
| 16:54.12 | hi365 | use the rememeber pass feature |
| 16:54.33 | Assimilate | Can someone verify that I have my sip.conf ok for NAT? Its at http://pastebin.com/d13ab24c9 |
| 16:54.48 | ManxPower | hi365: I thought only the actual firmware required a login, the docs did not. |
| 16:54.52 | hi365 | jeev: some sort of call pickup, and ringing indicator for a blf |
| 16:55.00 | jeev | blf? |
| 16:55.03 | ManxPower | Assimilate: Asterisk behind NAT or phone behind NAT? |
| 16:55.11 | jeev | Assimilate, i'd think you need nat=yes on the sip config too |
| 16:55.13 | jeev | like behind the phone |
| 16:55.20 | jeev | ~sipnat |
| 16:55.21 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 16:55.21 | jeev | ! |
| 16:55.22 | hi365 | ManxPower: i presume that the lates doc is located near the lates firmware, hence both need a login |
| 16:55.43 | ManxPower | hi365: I guess I should search the polycom web site for you.... |
| 16:55.50 | hi365 | http://www.polycom.com/usa/en/support/voice/soundpoint_ip/soundpoint_ip650.html |
| 16:55.54 | hi365 | its not there |
| 16:56.07 | Assimilate | ManxPower, Yes its asterisk behiend the nat |
| 16:56.14 | jeev | http://www.polycom.com/common/documents/support/setup_maintenance/products/voice/spip_ssip_Admin_Guide_SIP_3_1.pdf |
| 16:56.15 | ManxPower | But I'm on a 114K connection so it will take a while to load the pages. |
| 16:56.17 | jeev | that's not it ? |
| 16:56.19 | ManxPower | Assimilate: did you read the sipnat doc? |
| 16:56.23 | Assimilate | jeev, line 5 has a nat=yes is it in the wron place? |
| 16:56.31 | hi365 | thats the admin guide - not the release notes |
| 16:56.40 | jeev | Assimilate, read the links above, it' very easy |
| 16:56.48 | jeev | hi365, what does it require to get a login to polycom |
| 16:57.04 | jaytee | the ability to type |
| 16:57.06 | Assimilate | No probelm. I think its a firewall issue, since I just moved it from one natted firewall to another. |
| 16:57.08 | hi365 | the release notes will tell me of something drastic changed that would prevent my phone from reading the frimware |
| 16:57.15 | hi365 | for one :) |
| 16:57.17 | ManxPower | jeev: I am the Polycom Certified support person for a small company, that's how I got my ID |
| 16:57.30 | jeev | s/Polycom/Grandstream |
| 16:57.30 | hi365 | which you promtly lost |
| 16:57.30 | jeev | ! |
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| 16:57.59 | jaytee | so even when ManxPower is being politically correct he's still totally PC |
| 16:58.26 | jeev | requires breakfast |
| 16:58.34 | ManxPower | hi365: No, it took me 5 years to lose the information. I think I lost it when I cleaned out my old mailbox messages. |
| 16:58.40 | jaytee | it's the most important meal of the day |
| 16:58.49 | hi365 | but you still have that mailbox, right? |
| 16:58.54 | jeev | he never says something tastes like chicken, not even chicken |
| 16:58.58 | jeev | lol jaytee, what should i eat |
| 16:59.20 | jaytee | so were there expensive classes and a test involved in obtaining the Polycom cert? |
| 16:59.41 | jaytee | jeev, oatmeal, some fruit and something high in protien |
| 17:00.15 | hi365 | is this #oprah? |
| 17:00.27 | jaytee | no, it's #drphil |
| 17:00.43 | ManxPower | jaytee: the tests were not complicated, I have no idea as to the cost, since I don't deal with mundane things line money with this company. |
| 17:01.05 | jaytee | how many classes? |
| 17:01.17 | hi365 | thinks its all online, and its free |
| 17:01.17 | ManxPower | The cert was so the vendor could get better Polycom pricing for one of their big customers (same customer as my biggest customer) |
| 17:01.23 | hi365 | (or atleast some parts) |
| 17:01.31 | ManxPower | jaytee: no class, a silly online multiple choice test. |
| 17:01.48 | hi365 | ManxPower: but you still have that mailbox, right? |
| 17:01.57 | ManxPower | Think Microsoft Cert, not Cisco Cert. 8-) |
| 17:02.16 | ManxPower | hi365: I've had that mailbox for at least 12 years,. |
| 17:02.18 | jaytee | ManxPower, yeah, they usually do that to ensure someone working for the reseller has sufficient knowledge of the product to "offload" some of the tech support load. |
| 17:02.29 | hi365 | ManxPower: so you can just reset your password |
| 17:02.50 | jeev | oatmeal, eww i dont even have oatmeal |
| 17:03.11 | jaytee | cereal? Cheerios? Trix? |
| 17:03.16 | ManxPower | hi365: You mean the mailbox associated with the account. No, I do not have access to that, the e-mail address on file is with the reseller, not my mailbox. |
| 17:03.18 | jeev | i've got Fiber One |
| 17:03.22 | jaytee | that'll work |
| 17:03.29 | hi365 | ah. ok |
| 17:04.18 | jaytee | wonders what magic could be in SIP 3.1 to make it so enticing |
| 17:04.36 | ManxPower | It worked like this. Vendor: Hey, I can get much better pricing for our mutual customer if I have a Polycom certified tech "on staff". Me: Sure. What do I have to do. Vendor: I'll forward you the login details for taking the test. Me: OK. |
| 17:04.38 | hi365 | the new features are listed in the 3.1 admin guide |
| 17:06.21 | ManxPower | I think my salary with this vendor is $1/year. |
| 17:06.36 | ManxPower | So I'm "on staff"! |
| 17:06.40 | jaytee | you need to work on your negotiating skills |
| 17:07.01 | ManxPower | jaytee: Since I don't ever do any work for that vendor....... |
| 17:07.41 | jaytee | neither to most lawyers on retainer but they still get a wad of cash for just "being available" and then charge hourly for the actual work. |
| 17:08.11 | ManxPower | jaytee: this vendor also gives me cost+4% pricing, so I try not to piss them off. |
| 17:08.31 | ManxPower | They also partially funded the first ISP I started. |
| 17:08.46 | jaytee | ah, ok so there is another form of compensation |
| 17:10.10 | TalkRadio | is trixbox and fonality the same? |
| 17:10.31 | [TK]D-Fender | TalkRadio: No |
| 17:10.33 | Qwell | TalkRadio: no. one is crap, the other makes crap. |
| 17:10.37 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 17:10.48 | ManxPower | TalkRadio: I suppose you could ask on the trixbox or fonality forums -- the correct place for filthy GUI questions. |
| 17:10.59 | TalkRadio | so both are junk? i have a customer buying one with 30 phones :( |
| 17:11.20 | ManxPower | TalkRadio: we pretty much hate GUIs here. All GUIs suck. |
| 17:11.46 | Qwell | TalkRadio: get a different customer |
| 17:11.49 | ManxPower | Only girly men use GUIs |
| 17:12.13 | TalkRadio | the company will be configing it not me so i hope the product is good.. his choice was that or an avaya sytem for a few thousand mroe |
| 17:12.14 | jaytee | I'd be more specific and say I hate GUIs for an * box but I kinda like a GUI on a linux desktop |
| 17:12.14 | TalkRadio | more |
| 17:12.20 | MaliutaLap | ManxPower: no, that's girly girls |
| 17:12.28 | Qwell | TalkRadio: it isn't. |
| 17:12.38 | MaliutaLap | ManxPower: real women don't use GUI's either |
| 17:12.55 | ManxPower | MaliutaLap: I'm sure of that. 8-) |
| 17:13.13 | jaytee | ManxPower, do you use a gui on your desktop computer? |
| 17:13.14 | TalkRadio | Qwell is there another you'd recommend? the customer really likes the call center features of HUD |
| 17:13.31 | jaytee | or are you using irssi for IRC |
| 17:13.33 | Qwell | HUD is a joke.. |
| 17:13.36 | ManxPower | TalkRadio: I recommend Asterisk rather than one of the others. |
| 17:14.02 | TalkRadio | isn't fonality and trixbox just asterisk with some gui? |
| 17:14.17 | ManxPower | *nod* Housing and Urban Development suck. So do Heads Up Displays. |
| 17:14.17 | Qwell | TalkRadio: no |
| 17:14.22 | TalkRadio | once it's setup what diff does the gui make |
| 17:14.31 | ManxPower | jaytee: I use an OS GUI. I did not say I liked it. |
| 17:14.46 | ManxPower | ~trixbox |
| 17:14.46 | jbot | hmm... trixbox is a full linux distro that includes FreePBX and other 3rd party add-ons. It is all this extra stuff which makes trixbox VERY difficult to support, and is not supported in #asterisk. Try asking in #trixbox or on their forums & wiki at http://www.trixbox.org/. We do not recommend using it. |
| 17:14.46 | ManxPower | ~freepbx |
| 17:14.47 | jbot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there |
| 17:14.58 | ManxPower | TalkRadio: Now you know. |
| 17:15.01 | jeev | loves asterisk |
| 17:15.24 | jaytee | ManxPower, because if you were a CLI purist I'd recommend http://goosh.org as a search engine for your text only command line browser :-) |
| 17:15.48 | ManxPower | jaytee: I mainly use a GUI just to manage multiple windows. |
| 17:16.07 | TalkRadio | does the gui make the phone system crash? |
| 17:16.28 | jaytee | it could depending on how lame a CPU and how much RAM you have |
| 17:16.30 | jeev | TalkRadio, nobody wants to sit there and make a gui for ALL the things it could do |
| 17:16.34 | Qwell | TalkRadio: no, it's all the extra crap that makes the phone system crash |
| 17:16.35 | TalkRadio | i looked at diginum and their products have a gui too |
| 17:16.43 | Qwell | and open to repeated security vulnerabilities |
| 17:16.45 | ManxPower | TalkRadio: not usually. GUIs generally lock you into their way of doing things -- which is never the way you want to do things. |
| 17:17.09 | Qwell | TalkRadio: you're obviously already convinced. why bother asking us if you aren't going to accept our advice? |
| 17:17.25 | ManxPower | also support for Asterisk GUIs is HORRIBLE. At least is seems that way when we see all the poor sods coming here to get support because they got no help from their GUI support forums. |
| 17:17.29 | jaytee | Qwell, sell him on AsteriskNOW 1.5 |
| 17:17.30 | jeev | Qweel, doesn't digium sell support for it ? |
| 17:17.35 | TalkRadio | i'm not going to be the person using it or configing it i'm just asking advise and appreciate the input |
| 17:18.11 | ManxPower | TalkRadio: you might get a mor objective answer if you did not ask your questions on a channel where at least 90% of the people have Asterisk GUIs. |
| 17:18.13 | jaytee | if Fonality is the evil empire, does that mean Kerry is Darth Vader? |
| 17:18.24 | TalkRadio | heh |
| 17:18.26 | ManxPower | not HAVE, but HATE |
| 17:18.35 | jeev | isn't switchvox a gui ? |
| 17:18.39 | ManxPower | It's like asking Redhat questions on a Debian channel. |
| 17:18.44 | Qwell | jeev: a supported gui |
| 17:18.52 | ManxPower | They are both Linux after all! |
| 17:18.57 | jeev | so why aren't you telling him to go get it.. and get the support contract! |
| 17:19.01 | jaytee | I save my hate for people, for a gui I just dispense loathing and scorn |
| 17:19.04 | TalkRadio | did you hear what kerry said as a joke? they asked McCain if he wears boxers or breifs and he said 'hmm depends' lol |
| 17:19.10 | hardwire | hi |
| 17:19.16 | jeev | hardwire |
| 17:19.21 | jaytee | hi |
| 17:19.57 | ManxPower | jaytee: I figure the GUI users just don't know any better. |
| 17:20.45 | jeev | oh, switchvox free is max 15 ext |
| 17:21.28 | ManxPower | The Digium commercial GUI (I think it is switchbox) is licenced on a per call basis, as I understand it. |
| 17:22.09 | jaytee | ManxPower, while I agree with you on the arguements against having the gui it would still be nice if there was a way to utilize a gui interface in such a way as to only allow the addition of new phones or changes to those phones without taking control of the dialplan. Alot of small companies would want to delegate that to someone in house. They'd look at * and then look at a gui derivative and probably choose the latter because of that. |
| 17:22.50 | ManxPower | jaytee: BTW, I *finally* sold the Tellabs EC solution that I built. |
| 17:23.11 | jaytee | did you get what you wanted for it? |
| 17:23.18 | ManxPower | jaytee: Oh, I agree with that. It's just that no GUI does that. |
| 17:23.51 | yang | is it possible to crypt the "register =>" string ? |
| 17:23.58 | ManxPower | jaytee: not quite. My parts cost was higher than I had expected and I was hoping to be able to keep the same profit margin. Did not happen. |
| 17:24.44 | ManxPower | But I have parts for 3 more systems so I'll build and sell those too. |
| 17:25.33 | jaytee | ManxPower, I've been thinking of various ways to accomplish that while not locking in or restricting dialplan logic in any significant way so as to leave * with the same highly flexible power. I'm going to try and prototype something. All it would do is MAC changes and possibly generate Polycom configs from templates. |
| 17:26.22 | ManxPower | jaytee: *nod* Not locking out flexibility is that hard part. |
| 17:26.33 | jeev | jaytee, my script ./addphone |
| 17:26.35 | jeev | generates the template |
| 17:26.37 | jeev | want it |
| 17:26.38 | jaytee | ManxPower, agreed. |
| 17:26.43 | jeev | maybe you can make it better |
| 17:26.47 | jaytee | jeev, I have scripts already to do that |
| 17:26.52 | jeev | then what are you talkin about |
| 17:27.06 | jaytee | jeev, generating the configs from a gui interface |
| 17:27.16 | jaytee | web based |
| 17:27.22 | jeev | cool |
| 17:28.09 | jaytee | but this would be a very small footprint gui, just MAC changes and phone provisioning, no FOP because I'm a Dapper Dan man, no green ugly interface with lots of features that never work right. |
| 17:28.56 | jeev | dood |
| 17:29.02 | jeev | isn't dapper dan from oh brother where art thou |
| 17:29.37 | jaytee | my goal is to have a custom asterisk solution where the asterisk tech/engineer/reseller that's selling and installing has full control over the dialplan and then adds a couple elements that just add that functionality for an office admin trained to use it. that way they make money on the install/config and some extra bucks training the admin. |
| 17:29.46 | jaytee | jeev, right on the mark |
| 17:29.56 | TalkRadio | excellent idea |
| 17:29.59 | jeev | i loved that movie |
| 17:30.10 | jaytee | and FOP was the other hair gel that Clooney wouldn't use. |
| 17:30.17 | jeev | lol |
| 17:30.22 | jeev | i hate clooney |
| 17:30.24 | jeev | other than that movie |
| 17:30.36 | jeev | he makes people who were going to get out of prison in like 2 weeks escape ahhaah |
| 17:30.45 | jaytee | Cohen bros make some great flicks. I'm a diehard Big Lebowski fan |
| 17:31.11 | jeev | i dont remember that |
| 17:31.15 | jeev | didn't cohen bros steal matrix? |
| 17:31.34 | jaytee | Jeff Bridges, John Goodman and Steve Buscemi. |
| 17:31.56 | jaytee | jeev, no that's the Wachowski bros. |
| 17:32.11 | jeev | oh |
| 17:32.20 | jeev | http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-01-29-depenguinator-2.0.html |
| 17:32.22 | jaytee | and one of them is a tranny according to rumors |
| 17:32.22 | jeev | that's so cool |
| 17:32.28 | jeev | lol |
| 17:33.53 | jaytee | hahaha, depenguinator. reminds me of the vbscript this guy put out called the Dell Decrapifier that would remove all the extra crap Dell installed that would make the system tray take over half the taskbar and turn the new Dell into a boat anchor. |
| 17:34.14 | jeev | i9g |
| 17:34.19 | jeev | oh, i use decrapifier ALL the time |
| 17:34.32 | jaytee | I used it till I installed RIS |
| 17:34.36 | jeev | it's called pc decrapifier now |
| 17:34.37 | jeev | what's RIS |
| 17:34.49 | jaytee | Remote Installation Services |
| 17:35.03 | jeev | like packages through the server? |
| 17:35.04 | jaytee | PXE install from images over a network |
| 17:35.07 | jeev | oh |
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| 17:35.16 | jeev | i've yet to fondle that |
| 17:35.19 | jeev | i'm fine with what i do |
| 17:35.22 | jeev | if the person is cheap |
| 17:35.22 | jaytee | RIS has it's pluses and minuses |
| 17:35.27 | jeev | i decrapifier |
| 17:35.30 | jeev | if they're not, i format |
| 17:39.08 | jaytee | it's 57F outside |
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| 17:52.03 | jeev | impatiently waits for red alert 3 |
| 17:52.03 | jeev | http://www.ea.com/redalert/news-detail.jsp?id=94 |
| 17:52.04 | jeev | lol |
| 17:52.06 | jeev | isn't she a porn star |
| 17:52.21 | jeev | red alert 2 = tues! |
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| 17:57.46 | benneton | hi! i nee some help with zaptel dtmf |
| 17:57.49 | benneton | anyone? |
| 18:00.30 | benneton | on Read application i receive: User disconnected .. and then hangup? |
| 18:00.44 | benneton | what to do? |
| 18:00.50 | benneton | tnx |
| 18:07.38 | jeev | god i hate ATT |
| 18:08.40 | LoRez | you and everybody else |
| 18:08.52 | jeev | they've been overcharging for DSL and WIFI Premier for over a year now |
| 18:08.56 | jeev | and every time we call, they say they fix |
| 18:09.19 | LoRez | welcome to the old AT&T |
| 18:09.34 | jeev | attwifi.com gives me contact to att wireless |
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| 18:09.35 | jeev | heh |
| 18:11.13 | jaytee | AT&T= Anal Torture & Telephony |
| 18:11.24 | jeev | why do they insist on voice |
| 18:11.28 | jeev | WHY |
| 18:11.30 | jeev | why can't i just pick |
| 18:11.39 | jeev | from NUMBERS |
| 18:11.40 | jeev | FUCK |
| 18:12.08 | jeev | i swear |
| 18:12.18 | jeev | i will kill the guy who implimented all this |
| 18:14.12 | jeev | cant wait till friend moves his office |
| 18:14.26 | UnixDawg | t-mobile |
| 18:14.27 | RobertLaptop | general no one will every admit to true screw ups. |
| 18:15.14 | jeev | what about tmobile |
| 18:15.19 | jeev | it's att phone service, not wireless |
| 18:15.33 | jeev | http://www.att.com/gen/general?pid=5949 we have wifi premier |
| 18:15.35 | jeev | but we can never use it |
| 18:15.43 | jeev | yesterday ATT couldn't even find the login or phone number in their system |
| 18:15.44 | jeev | lol |
| 18:16.11 | jeev | wow |
| 18:16.15 | jeev | 8 minutes on hold and hang up |
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| 18:33.30 | Carlos_PHX | Does AT&T use Asterisk? |
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| 18:33.39 | redax | hi, |
| 18:33.49 | jaytee | Carlos_PHX, I doubt it |
| 18:34.17 | redax | is all SIP hardphone useable for Page() ? |
| 18:35.08 | jeev | god att is gay |
| 18:35.09 | jaytee | redax, useable? Page works on any SIP phone. it rings the phone. |
| 18:36.17 | redax | aaa.. wait. Page isn't when all Page'd phone "picks up" the phone with a muted microphone, and the "caller" can speak to them ? |
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| 18:36.35 | redax | picks up with speakerphone I mean... |
| 18:36.37 | jaytee | redax, Page() is used to initiate a dynamic MeetMe conference where only the caller can speak |
| 18:37.02 | jaytee | for speakerphone you'd have to modify the phone settings if they allow for it. what kind of phone are you using? |
| 18:37.19 | redax | actually linksys spa922 |
| 18:37.44 | redax | and a few polycom ip550 |
| 18:38.25 | jaytee | not familiar with them. I use Polycom and I've had to modify the provisioning to setup Ring-Answer and then I have to use SipAddHeader to set the Notify for Ring Answer before dialing. |
| 18:38.44 | jeev | i dont get it |
| 18:38.50 | jeev | the barnes n noble has starbucks in it |
| 18:38.57 | jeev | att has free wifi with starbucks, same with tmobile for like 5 more years |
| 18:39.07 | jeev | att wifi has barnes n noble but 2 hours is 4 bux |
| 18:39.12 | redax | ah. Ring-Answer that's what I forgot :) |
| 18:39.14 | jeev | why can't you use the starbucks one |
| 18:39.26 | jaytee | yeah, they do and everytime I go in there I get a mocha frappacino and every damn time I get brain freeze when I drink it. You think i'd learn by now but nooooooo. |
| 18:39.41 | redax | Linksys spa922 allows Ring-Answer somehow... |
| 18:39.45 | Carlos_PHX | redax: The SPA 942 and up do have the auto-answer you need, so the others probably do too, just haven't tried one yet. |
| 18:40.07 | jaytee | redax, there's a good how-to on the Wiki for it with Polycoms but you'd have to figure out how to setup ring-answer as an option on the Linksys phones to make them work. |
| 18:40.40 | redax | Carlos_PHX: neither me, just my boss kicking my ass to implement this Ring-Answer style Page functionality in our pbx. |
| 18:41.05 | Carlos_PHX | Look in the config guide for auto_answer_page |
| 18:41.07 | jaytee | redax, aren't bosses assholes? |
| 18:41.18 | redax | I'm pretty sure linksys implemented kinda different the ringanswer |
| 18:41.30 | benneton | guys, help... |
| 18:41.37 | Carlos_PHX | On the 942/962 that's what it is. |
| 18:41.57 | redax | jaytee: usually yes, except xmas hollyday times;) |
| 18:42.10 | benneton | on fxo: why busydetect = yes and busycount = 4, hangs up on DTMF? |
| 18:42.51 | redax | hehh.. |
| 18:42.56 | redax | Polycom: SIPAddHeader(Alert-Info: Ring Answer) |
| 18:43.05 | redax | Linksys: SIPAddHeader(Call-Info:\;answer-after=0) |
| 18:43.09 | redax | great :) |
| 18:43.11 | benneton | Because of this, I have problem with Read application |
| 18:43.28 | redax | heh. |
| 18:43.38 | redax | Snom: SIPAddHeader(Call-Info: sip:10.10.11.255\; answer-after=0) |
| 18:44.05 | redax | is there a way to check for the SIP peer's User-Agent string? |
| 18:44.11 | benneton | anyone? |
| 18:44.14 | benneton | on fxo: why busydetect = yes and busycount = 4, hangs up on DTMF? |
| 18:44.29 | redax | I mean to check the peer's useragent string in the dialplan, and use for GotoIf() stuff |
| 18:44.39 | jaytee | benneton, no idea. have you tried googling it? |
| 18:44.49 | benneton | well, daa |
| 18:44.49 | benneton | :D |
| 18:45.18 | benneton | couple of guys got same problem |
| 18:45.20 | benneton | not solved |
| 18:45.25 | benneton | S.H.I.T |
| 18:45.36 | jaytee | have you tried relaxdtmf=yes? |
| 18:45.40 | benneton | yes |
| 18:45.57 | benneton | and callprogress=yes |
| 18:46.06 | benneton | with progzone |
| 18:46.13 | jaytee | I'd comment out the callprogress |
| 18:47.02 | benneton | well, it is... |
| 18:47.23 | benneton | I've tried too much combinations |
| 18:47.41 | benneton | i have headache |
| 18:47.45 | benneton | :D |
| 18:47.47 | jaytee | pastebin the section of extensions.conf you're using for the call |
| 18:48.07 | jeev | what the hell is Ring Answer |
| 18:48.31 | jaytee | jeev, it'll ring the phone for a specified duration and then answer with speakerphone |
| 18:48.36 | redax | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:48.39 | jeev | oh |
| 18:48.49 | jaytee | jeev, think BEEP then INTERCOM |
| 18:48.56 | jeev | is it possible to do like PA with the phones? :D |
| 18:48.58 | jeev | i'd love it |
| 18:49.06 | jeev | ah, through ring answer! |
| 18:49.09 | jaytee | but you can set the ringer type to whatever you want |
| 18:49.32 | jaytee | jeev, yeah, using Page() and Ring-Answer you've got intercom |
| 18:49.38 | jaytee | or PA |
| 18:50.05 | jeev | wow, my body is shutting down |
| 18:50.06 | jeev | im' gonna go rest |
| 18:50.12 | benneton | http://pastebin.com/m3169d324 |
| 18:50.28 | benneton | jaytee |
| 18:50.36 | jaytee | got it |
| 18:50.41 | benneton | this is just part of it |
| 18:50.48 | benneton | there is problem |
| 18:50.50 | redax | jaytee: what "PA" means? |
| 18:51.03 | jaytee | Public Address |
| 18:51.18 | redax | ah |
| 18:51.42 | redax | aaa. but ${SIPUSERAGENT} is for the caller ... grrr |
| 18:52.04 | benneton | jaytee - on DTMF input in Read app, i receive "user disconnect" with busydetect = yes |
| 18:52.47 | benneton | if it is OFF everything is fine... but then, i don't have busydetect, which is important to have |
| 18:52.57 | redax | raise that busycount or what won't help? |
| 18:52.59 | jaytee | benneton, looks to me like you've got a 1 second timeout in there |
| 18:53.54 | benneton | sorry, that is mistake in pastebin |
| 18:53.57 | benneton | :( |
| 18:54.00 | benneton | my bad |
| 18:54.23 | jaytee | mistake in pastebin? bullshit |
| 18:54.40 | benneton | Read(numbers,enter-new-number,,,1,30) |
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| 18:55.15 | benneton | come on, whats with language |
| 18:56.54 | jaytee | ok, so read into numbers the digits while playing the prompt enter-new-number with 1 attempt and a 30 second timeout. Don't see anything wrong with THAT example. The other one would have timed out after 1 second though. |
| 18:57.18 | benneton | that's my typo in pastebin |
| 18:57.31 | benneton | forget about it. tnx |
| 18:57.42 | jaytee | did you actually paste from your config or did you type each line manually/ |
| 18:57.49 | jaytee | ? |
| 18:57.54 | benneton | it was not in english |
| 18:58.19 | jaytee | ah, so you typed it to translate. ok |
| 18:58.26 | benneton | yes |
| 18:59.02 | jaytee | have you tested SIP to SIP instead of just over a zap channel? |
| 18:59.19 | jeev | scratches self |
| 18:59.41 | jeev | lol |
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| 18:59.43 | benneton | well, i use iax2 phones.. but here, i need to use ZAP fxo |
| 18:59.45 | jeev | pastebin made the mistake ? :D |
| 18:59.56 | benneton | yes, stupid pastebin :D |
| 19:01.26 | telecos | help |
| 19:01.40 | jaytee | huh? |
| 19:02.01 | jaytee | help help! I'm being chased by..... (click) |
| 19:02.21 | redax | hehh |
| 19:02.43 | benneton | its problem only with zap busydetect |
| 19:02.59 | benneton | when off its ok. no problems with iax |
| 19:04.01 | jaytee | benneton, what version of * are you running? |
| 19:04.23 | jeev | http://www.jeev.net/asterisk/failover |
| 19:05.48 | jaytee | benneton, also what make and model is the FXO card? |
| 19:06.15 | benneton | TDM2401B |
| 19:06.28 | benneton | now, there is only one module |
| 19:06.31 | jaytee | * version? |
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| 19:08.43 | benneton | hey |
| 19:08.46 | benneton | sorry |
| 19:08.51 | benneton | version, ok |
| 19:09.41 | benneton | 1.4.asterisk-1.4.19 |
| 19:09.47 | benneton | asterisk-1.4.19 |
| 19:11.31 | benneton | it work fine with PRI card |
| 19:11.34 | benneton | wcte12xp |
| 19:11.49 | benneton | yeah, its digital, thats why |
| 19:12.03 | benneton | no need for busydetect |
| 19:13.12 | jaytee | try upping the busycount to 6? or make sure the busypattern= matches what it should be for your tonezone |
| 19:14.30 | jeev | jaytee, see script |
| 19:14.32 | jeev | ? |
| 19:14.37 | benneton | is it too much: busycount = 9 |
| 19:14.42 | benneton | its works better |
| 19:14.53 | benneton | every 2nd hangs up :D |
| 19:14.57 | benneton | merde |
| 19:16.06 | jaytee | jeev, very impressive scripting and I'm being serious. |
| 19:17.15 | benneton | well, busypattern is 500,500 |
| 19:17.25 | benneton | 425/500, 0/500 |
| 19:17.45 | jaytee | benneton, there was a bug filed on digium for version 1.2 with that exact problem with busydetect. It appears to have been closed an reopened several times. Can't find anything for 1.4.19 but I know there were alot of issues with that minor release. |
| 19:18.04 | jaytee | benneton, what's the 425/500 and 0/500 cadences for? |
| 19:18.11 | benneton | busy |
| 19:18.27 | jaytee | you have all 3? |
| 19:18.33 | jaytee | you should only have one |
| 19:18.49 | benneton | huh? |
| 19:18.53 | jaytee | in the US 500/500 is the default as it is in many other places. |
| 19:19.04 | benneton | this is in indications.conf |
| 19:19.18 | jaytee | hangon a second |
| 19:19.24 | benneton | its tone for my country |
| 19:19.51 | benneton | but, i don't use callprogress=yes + progzone=rs |
| 19:20.03 | benneton | it's commented |
| 19:20.14 | benneton | me wait, me wait :D |
| 19:21.32 | benneton | busypattern is 500,500 -> 425/500,0/500 -- that is it |
| 19:21.53 | benneton | busypattern doesn't provide tone freq |
| 19:22.14 | jaytee | ok, so busy in indications.conf is 425/500,0/500? |
| 19:22.20 | benneton | yes |
| 19:22.39 | jaytee | and what is it in zapata.conf? |
| 19:23.03 | benneton | 500,500 |
| 19:23.24 | benneton | its TONE/PAUSE |
| 19:23.33 | benneton | no freq in zapata |
| 19:23.56 | benneton | so, it could be: speak, nospeak... and hangup :D |
| 19:24.16 | benneton | i must try that |
| 19:24.17 | benneton | :D |
| 19:24.24 | jeev | is craving In n Out |
| 19:24.51 | Carlos_PHX | Damn, now I'm hungry. |
| 19:24.59 | Carlos_PHX | But too lazy to go anywhere. |
| 19:25.11 | jeev | yum |
| 19:25.18 | jaytee | benneton, are you using loop start or kewl start? |
| 19:25.21 | jeev | why dont you go door to door and tell people that mccain is a fraud |
| 19:25.25 | benneton | kewl |
| 19:26.12 | benneton | where to post my indications.conf? |
| 19:26.48 | Carlos_PHX | jeev: I thought everyone already knew that? |
| 19:27.40 | jeev | not people in arizona! |
| 19:28.04 | Carlos_PHX | Everyone already knows Obama is a fraud, so I should go even it out is what you're saying? |
| 19:28.16 | orkid | how is he a fraud |
| 19:28.28 | Carlos_PHX | < Feels nibble on hook |
| 19:28.37 | jblack | Yeah, I'd like to know too. |
| 19:28.57 | jeev | takes out his gun |
| 19:28.59 | Carlos_PHX | I think I'm going to see if I can make Asterisk work over RFC1149 packets with RFC2549 QoS today. |
| 19:29.24 | Carlos_PHX | IPoAC was completely useless until they added QoS. |
| 19:29.29 | jeev | fuck it, lets vote mcbush/stalin, i guess we could use a nuclear holocaust with russia! |
| 19:29.32 | jaytee | benneton, only thing I can find in bug reports is for 1.2 and that's been closed. it could be a bug in the zaptel version you're using that I'm not seeing on the site or it could be a flaky module on the card. |
| 19:29.43 | jaytee | Shatner/Hasselhoff 2008 FTW! |
| 19:29.54 | orkid | in what |
| 19:29.57 | jeev | ll |
| 19:30.00 | jeev | lol |
| 19:30.10 | Carlos_PHX | jaytee: Since nothing could be worse than the two choices most people are going for... |
| 19:30.30 | jblack | Brilliant! We need to launch a small nuclear exchange to make a nuclear winter in just the right size to offset global warming. |
| 19:30.42 | orkid | oh ic |
| 19:30.44 | benneton | tnx jaytee |
| 19:30.51 | Carlos_PHX | This is the first time I've ever enjoyed reading an RFC: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt?number=1149 |
| 19:30.53 | jeev | lol jblack |
| 19:30.56 | jeev | hahahaha, offset global warming |
| 19:31.17 | benneton | if i find a solution, i will post it somewhere |
| 19:31.27 | jblack | That would make a great tshirt. "Offset global warming with nuclear winter" |
| 19:31.39 | jeev | i'm down jblack |
| 19:31.40 | jeev | i want to print that shit |
| 19:31.46 | jaytee | benneton, you might try to ask russellb about the problem when he's in here sometime. he's here often and he's the lead dev so he'd know if anyone does. |
| 19:32.14 | benneton | got it |
| 19:32.22 | benneton | i will ask him |
| 19:32.30 | jaytee | avian carriers. lol. seen it before but still funny |
| 19:32.50 | jaytee | I like the idea of the offset global warming with nuclear winter one too |
| 19:33.20 | jeev | that offset global warming thing is hilarious |
| 19:34.08 | jeev | mccain denies global warming but wants to offset it anyway with nuclear winter |
| 19:34.09 | jeev | pass it on! |
| 19:34.31 | Carlos_PHX | When you combine two mythical things... |
| 19:34.40 | jeev | lol |
| 19:34.47 | jeev | psst, john, is that you? |
| 19:35.28 | Carlos_PHX | There are moments when I wish I knew just one political quote. |
| 19:35.39 | benneton | guy, do I need to recompile asteriks after zaptel recompile? |
| 19:35.57 | benneton | i mean, asterisk |
| 19:36.00 | benneton | :D |
| 19:36.11 | Carlos_PHX | For safety, most of us type it * |
| 19:36.16 | benneton | :D |
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| 19:36.39 | RobertLaptop | anyone know of a good review of the diff between elastix and asterisknow? Everything I am finding in google are pretty old and seem to turn into trixbox is great/suck discussions. |
| 19:36.49 | benneton | do i need to recompile it both? |
| 19:36.57 | benneton | * and zaptel |
| 19:37.05 | ManxPower | RobertLaptop: Since most of us here hate GUIs...... |
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| 19:37.29 | magic_hat | anybody using EC2 to host *? |
| 19:37.56 | ManxPower | Echo Canceler 2? |
| 19:38.12 | RobertLaptop | I am not a lover of GUI either but I like prepackage packages that don't require compiling to keep up to date. |
| 19:38.19 | magic_hat | amazon's ec2 cloud computing |
| 19:38.56 | ManxPower | RobertLaptop: Asterisk has critical releases often enough you'll never be on the latest version if you have to wait for a package maintainer to update their package |
| 19:39.32 | ManxPower | that is the problem with programs like Asterisk, ClamAV, SpamAssassin -- they change so often the only way to stay up to date is upgrade manually. |
| 19:39.50 | jaytee | and all the joy and fun of missing dependencies from poorly made packages |
| 19:40.07 | ManxPower | half the packages out there don't even seem to include the official asterisk docs |
| 19:40.24 | ManxPower | RobertLaptop: the main problem with packages is that almost nobody will support you. |
| 19:40.45 | kim0 | I'm voip n00b heeeeeelp :D ... If I get a DID from provider A, and SIP from ITSP B. Who hooks the DID to SIP ? |
| 19:41.07 | ManxPower | kim0: the local CLEC for the area code / exchange of the DID |
| 19:41.16 | ManxPower | nobody you would do business with. |
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| 19:41.33 | kim0 | ManxPower: so who would get it done for me |
| 19:41.38 | kim0 | DID provider ? |
| 19:41.40 | ManxPower | kim0: get what done? |
| 19:41.46 | kim0 | hook DID to SIP |
| 19:41.54 | kim0 | or talk to CLEC |
| 19:41.56 | kim0 | rather |
| 19:42.11 | ManxPower | that is like asking how to hook up a wagon to a lake of molten lead -- the question makes NO sense. |
| 19:42.28 | ManxPower | You get a DID from a SIP provider. That is it. Simple. |
| 19:42.45 | kim0 | ManxPower: and if I change that provider ? |
| 19:42.49 | kim0 | I wanna keep my DID |
| 19:43.16 | ManxPower | kim0: most providers support number ports, but you would have to find out from the companys you are doing business with. |
| 19:43.26 | ManxPower | Some DID cannot be moved to another provider. |
| 19:43.31 | ManxPower | Again, ask your provider. |
| 19:43.43 | kim0 | ManxPower: is that what they mean by "portable DID numbers" ?? |
| 19:44.08 | ManxPower | kim0: correct. |
| 19:44.13 | kim0 | ah cool |
| 19:44.24 | benneton | jaytee - with busycount=8 its fine??? with 9 its not, with 7 its not... |
| 19:44.31 | ManxPower | Most SIP provders get the DIDs they sell from a company like Level3 or WilTel |
| 19:44.38 | benneton | must to test it |
| 19:44.46 | jaytee | benneton, looks like * likes even numbers for busycount |
| 19:44.52 | kim0 | ManxPower: so I need to ask them .. if it's portable |
| 19:44.53 | ManxPower | benneton: busydetection is not reliable. If it works for you great, if not well not much you can do about it. |
| 19:44.55 | benneton | hehe |
| 19:44.59 | kim0 | ManxPower: great thanks |
| 19:45.45 | ManxPower | callprogress=yes really should be renamed randomlydisconnectmycalls=yes |
| 19:45.53 | jaytee | lol |
| 19:46.03 | benneton | HEHEHE |
| 19:46.06 | benneton | coool |
| 19:46.15 | benneton | 1 vote from me |
| 19:46.31 | kim0 | ManxPower: I am trying to choose a ITSP with European datacenters ... Say I get a demo account ... Is there a scientific way to quantify the quality of their service ?! |
| 19:47.24 | ManxPower | no, since most any internet issue could cause the ITSP to appear to be down, even though they are working just fine. This is the nature of VoiceOverIPOverInternet |
| 19:47.41 | kim0 | VOIPOI |
| 19:47.46 | kim0 | :D |
| 19:48.11 | ManxPower | Unless you have a direct private link to the ITSP, you can only test Internet + ISP reliability unless (maybe) you test from several different ISPs |
| 19:48.18 | jaytee | kinda like poipoi, the hawaiian dish only not as sticky and gummy |
| 19:48.24 | kim0 | ManxPower: I am correct to try and choose one with European datacenters assuming I plan to mostly talk to European countries ? |
| 19:48.35 | kim0 | s/I am/am I/ |
| 19:48.48 | kim0 | w0w! that's cool |
| 19:48.51 | ManxPower | kim0: it ALL depends on the ITSP. |
| 19:49.12 | ManxPower | what country are you looking for a DID in? |
| 19:49.17 | kim0 | Belgium |
| 19:49.43 | ManxPower | kim0: Everything I have told you so far only applies to the USA. |
| 19:49.59 | ManxPower | People in Europe say DDI instead of DID |
| 19:50.16 | kim0 | ok |
| 19:50.26 | kim0 | ManxPower: any experiences with quality ITSPs in Europe ? |
| 19:50.43 | ManxPower | kim0: I know nothing about the underlying design of ITSP services in Europe. |
| 19:50.54 | ManxPower | especially LNP |
| 19:51.01 | ManxPower | Do they even have LNP over there? |
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| 19:51.13 | kim0 | what's an LNP :P |
| 19:51.22 | ManxPower | Local Number Portability |
| 19:51.26 | ManxPower | Also a USA term |
| 19:51.28 | mayo | hello |
| 19:51.45 | kim0 | crap ... I need to pick a good ITSP ... and I have no idea where to do it :D |
| 19:51.56 | ManxPower | kim0: there are none. |
| 19:51.56 | mayo | any of you play with the lua diaplans yet? |
| 19:52.09 | jaytee | mmmm, mayo! throw some bacon and toast in with that and we got us a meal |
| 19:52.28 | mayo | nah, ketchup is better! |
| 19:52.42 | mayo | good itsp .. that's an oxymoron |
| 19:52.58 | kim0 | might begin with these guys http://www.monema.com |
| 19:55.08 | mayo | i'm installing a new box and figured i'd play with the lua dialplan, but can't figure few things out, like how to deal with macros that add more extensions, since I'm out of the context when the macro gets called ... any ideas? |
| 19:56.59 | tvirus | Hooked up a phone to an FXS module and there's no dialtone. Could t he module be faulty? dahdi_cfg shows it as being configured. I can dial the extension in Asterisk (Dahdi/3), but it doesn't ring nor does it dial out. Molex is plugged in. |
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| 20:00.31 | ManxPower | tvirus: so you have it in the 3rd port from the top of the card |
| 20:00.43 | tvirus | Yes |
| 20:01.01 | tvirus | It's in port 3, I know that to be true. |
| 20:01.08 | ManxPower | tvirus: tried a different analog phone? |
| 20:01.12 | jeev | ManxPower, did you like my script |
| 20:01.19 | tvirus | We tried 3 |
| 20:01.24 | ManxPower | jeev: didn't look at it |
| 20:01.26 | tvirus | No dial tone, no nuttin. |
| 20:01.40 | jaytee | tried different line cord? |
| 20:01.41 | ManxPower | tvirus: call Digium support. The provide free support for their cards. |
| 20:01.48 | ManxPower | Assuming you have a Digium card. |
| 20:01.50 | tvirus | They be closed :( |
| 20:01.52 | tvirus | I do. |
| 20:02.00 | ManxPower | tvirus: then wait untill tomorrow. |
| 20:02.15 | tvirus | I will try :) |
| 20:02.36 | mayo | try the other ports |
| 20:02.57 | mayo | i always get screwed with which side you count them from |
| 20:03.24 | mayo | alternatively get a tester (they're $5 or so at radio shack) |
| 20:03.46 | mayo | just a 3 color LED with a phone plug on the other side ... |
| 20:05.20 | mayo | or just take a volt meter to it, middle pins, needs 35 volts iirc |
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| 20:12.17 | jameswf | did you plug the card to power |
| 20:13.15 | mayo | i think he said the molex was plugged in |
| 20:13.26 | tvirus | Yes, it's plugged in |
| 20:13.36 | tvirus | Added the other FXS, too, port 4, still nothing. |
| 20:13.36 | tvirus | :( |
| 20:13.44 | jameswf | try a different mokex... |
| 20:14.00 | jameswf | do you have battery and no dialtone or neither |
| 20:14.09 | tvirus | Battery? |
| 20:14.19 | tvirus | The phone is 100% dead. |
| 20:14.22 | jameswf | can you push buttons and hear tones |
| 20:14.44 | tvirus | It's an office phone, so it has a power supply. Going to get a regular phone tonight. |
| 20:15.04 | mayo | tvirus: if you have volt meter just measure the voltage across the two inner pins |
| 20:15.13 | tvirus | Ok, I can do that. |
| 20:20.33 | hardwire | I just need a bulkhead mount hookswitch and hardened handset |
| 20:20.53 | hardwire | I wanna take the guts out of a sip phone and hook it to that |
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| 20:22.07 | tvirus | Looks to be about 3v coming out. |
| 20:22.22 | tvirus | I have another TDM410P I can plug into the machine. |
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| 20:24.29 | mayo_ | tvirus: that's too low |
| 20:24.43 | mayo_ | you sure the molex is giving you power? |
| 20:26.25 | mayo_ | tvirus: needs to be above 35 .. usually around 48 |
| 20:26.46 | mayo_ | across the two pins, that is |
| 20:28.05 | X-Rob | came in a bit late. What specific card is it, tvirus? |
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| 20:43.34 | kerx | hi everyone, for some reason i use call files, and when I call myself and pick up the phone, the CDR Master.csv still says "NO ANSWER" and "DOCUMENTATION" |
| 20:44.24 | kerx | I'm using Asterisk 1.6.0.1 |
| 20:45.43 | tvirus | X-Rob: TDM410P 2xFXO 2xFXS with EC module |
| 20:46.09 | X-Rob | tvirus, is the moudle loaded and have you run ztcfg ? |
| 20:46.19 | tvirus | Using Dahdi drivers, and yeah, it shows up. |
| 20:46.32 | X-Rob | oh, dunno about dahdi.. |
| 20:46.42 | tvirus | Same thing as Zaptel, just renamed. |
| 20:46.46 | X-Rob | you checked all 4 ports for battery? (eg, 48v) |
| 20:47.10 | tvirus | I checked 1 port and it got about 3v, but it's a POS multimeter, so I don't know how trustworthy it is. |
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| 20:51.26 | kerx | anyone can help me w/ my CDR issue :) ? |
| 20:53.29 | X-Rob | tvirus, call digium. something's broked. |
| 20:56.41 | tvirus | Yeah, I'll give em a call tomorrow. |
| 20:57.10 | tvirus | This is in 2 PCs with 2 completely different PSUs, so I doubt it's a molex issue. I'll try another TDM card when I get a chance. |
| 20:57.33 | X-Rob | I'd try it with zaptel and 1.4 |
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| 20:57.44 | X-Rob | just try to see if it's something broken with dahdi. |
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| 20:59.24 | lesouvage | is there a command to pick a random number between 0 and 9 in Asterisk. I found Random() but that is not really what I'm looking for. |
| 21:01.37 | lesouvage | I just seem to find it. It is function RAND(min,max) |
| 21:08.53 | kerx | darn this CDR issue |
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| 21:11.09 | kerx | "","","s","outboundmessage1","SIP/GAFACHI-08808d40","","BackGround","/tmp/say-hello","2008-10-26 15:44:59","","2008-10-26 15:45:26","27","0","NO ANSWER","DOCUMENTATION","","1225053899.0","" |
| 21:12.05 | kerx | it is weird, this is when i pick up the phone, but when i hang up, it just says NO ANSWER, instead of like HANGUP |
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| 21:20.48 | StephenF[W] | Is it normal practice to set dial plans on SIP phones to automatically send all input to asterisk? |
| 21:21.15 | StephenF[W] | for example my Polycom phones won't send my input until it matches its own dialplan or I press # |
| 21:21.32 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: You can make the phone or as smart as you want it to be. |
| 21:21.44 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: Personally I don't want my phone thinking at all.. |
| 21:21.47 | StephenF[W] | [TK]D-Fender what do you usually do? |
| 21:22.01 | StephenF[W] | yeah, thats what Im thinking. Id rather have asterisk handle everything |
| 21:22.07 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: X.T|#.T|*.T |
| 21:22.22 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: w/ impossiblematchhandling="2" |
| 21:23.11 | StephenF[W] | ok, so that will just send everything to asterisk |
| 21:25.16 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: And there's a "removeendofdial type thing to set as well |
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| 21:25.39 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: So that if you hit # it send it and doesn't use it to terminate a dial |
| 21:25.52 | StephenF[W] | ahh ok |
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| 21:34.40 | kerx | Can anyne please guide where I can begin to debug if Asterisk's CDR is always displaying 0 for billsec and even putting down "NO ANSWER" when I pickup the phone? |
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| 21:45.14 | kerx | Do you only get a billsec and full CDR logging if you use Dial() ? |
| 21:45.24 | kerx | If I use a callfile it doesn't seem to be logging correctly |
| 21:46.22 | kerx | maybe I'm doing a bad thing using Asterisk 1.6.x and should use 1.4.x |
| 21:50.45 | StephenF[W] | I've heard bad things about HUDlite, is there something better with similar functionality? Im looking for something to tie in the phone system with our desktops... |
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| 21:57.23 | X-Rob | ~book |
| 21:57.23 | jbot | from memory, book is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook |
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| 22:23.17 | ManxPower | kerx: 1) do you have callprogress=yes or busydetect=yes? |
| 22:24.16 | ManxPower | kerx: 2) what type of interface are you dialing out of? analog, T-1, SIP, IAX2? |
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| 22:43.34 | oush | Hi |
| 22:43.49 | oush | guys do i need a voip router to setup asterisk at home or just a normal netgear wireless router is sufficient enough? |
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| 22:46.13 | StephenF[W] | oush should be fine with a normal router, unless you want to do QoS |
| 22:47.00 | oush | wont be doing QoS :) |
| 22:47.01 | oush | thanks!! |
| 22:47.02 | oush | :) |
| 23:08.20 | kerx | ManxPower, let me double check |
| 23:15.37 | kerx | ManxPower, is this information inside of the cdr.conf |
| 23:17.05 | kerx | ManxPower, I put this information, and it shows BUSY |
| 23:17.56 | kerx | but for picked up calls, it still put's 0 in the billsec and "NO ANSWER", "DOCUMENTATION" |
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| 23:21.12 | kerx | I notice that w/ Asterisk 1.2.27 it doesn't do this, and it actually put's Answered, and displays the billsec, but the billsec is equal to the entire call duration |
| 23:21.17 | kerx | CDR seems buggy? |
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| 23:30.18 | jeev | pump up the asterisk |
| 23:31.04 | kerx | heh |
| 23:32.11 | drmessano | Im waiting for the Asterisk superbowl commercial with Aerosmith |
| 23:33.25 | kerx | whats up with asterisk's cdr? |
| 23:33.31 | kerx | jeev or drmessano can you possibly help me? |
| 23:33.45 | drmessano | Havent seen the problem you seem to be having |
| 23:34.23 | drmessano | Ah wait |
| 23:34.27 | drmessano | You're on 1.6? |
| 23:34.34 | drmessano | 1.6.0 or 1.6.1 beta? |
| 23:35.15 | jeev | i dont know much about cdr, drmessano will only insult you.. so i think you're out of luck |
| 23:35.27 | Carlos_PHX | ROFL |
| 23:35.30 | drmessano | jeev: I will only insult YOU |
| 23:35.34 | file | kerx: file an issue and codefreeze-lap will look at it... |
| 23:35.39 | kerx | drmessano, i'm w/ 1.6.1 |
| 23:35.43 | drmessano | jeev: Now go away before I taunt you a second time |
| 23:35.48 | file | so many scenarios, so many different expectations |
| 23:35.54 | drmessano | kerx: Why the hell are you using a BETA and complaining ? |
| 23:35.57 | kerx | but also it happens with 1.4.22 |
| 23:36.03 | drmessano | kerx: Unless you're testing, you want STABLE |
| 23:36.16 | file | so many people wanting it to behave differently... |
| 23:36.17 | kerx | drmessano, I've recompiled w/ 1.4.22 and tried the same configuration, and receive the same errors |
| 23:36.20 | file | mumbles |
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| 23:36.30 | file | goes back to Wii Music |
| 23:36.42 | kerx | i use .call file's and when i pick up the phone it says "NO ANSWERED" and the billsec is always 0 when I finally hang up and records the detail in Master.csv |
| 23:37.16 | kerx | it's very weird... |
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| 23:37.48 | drmessano | hmmm |
| 23:38.28 | kerx | i've noticed through lots of Google searching and reading Digium's forum's, there might be some issues w/ CDR and .call files, but I'm not sure ? |
| 23:39.01 | lmadsen | kerx: possibly... there is a bug open currently that you can provide information if you can reproduce it |
| 23:39.17 | kerx | lmadsen, can you please point to me the bug report so that I may read? |
| 23:39.24 | lmadsen | let me try and find it |
| 23:39.36 | kerx | I appreciate that, Ill do some google searches also |
| 23:39.37 | kerx | Thanks in advance |
| 23:40.50 | lmadsen | http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13665 |
| 23:40.59 | drmessano | I'm still trying to nail down my random 100% CPU spikes |
| 23:41.00 | kerx | Thanks |
| 23:41.01 | lmadsen | just try entering "CDR" into the search term at bugs.digium.com |
| 23:41.10 | drmessano | 1.6 has been fun.. like 1.4 all over again |
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| 23:41.26 | file | drmessano: I wouldn't go that far |
| 23:41.31 | lmadsen | either would I |
| 23:41.36 | Carlos_PHX | drmessano: When are you seeing those CPU spikes? I went through a lot of that in early 1.4 also with IAX. |
| 23:41.40 | kerx | lmadsen, this bug is pretty close, but at least the user receives 5 seconds in his billsec |
| 23:41.43 | kerx | I receive nothing :-( |
| 23:41.44 | lmadsen | yes, you have to learn the way 1.6 works differently than 1.4 |
| 23:41.53 | kerx | How does it work differently? |
| 23:42.00 | kerx | Seems like I'm going to have to become an Asterisk Coder :P |
| 23:42.01 | lmadsen | kerx: he might be using a different method though... you should report how to recreate your problem |
| 23:42.06 | lmadsen | kerx: w00t :) |
| 23:42.11 | file | drmessano: just with CDRs since murf has been changing them to fit what people want... people have been causing it to change a lot... sometimes against eachother... |
| 23:42.47 | C4away | CDRs need some work |
| 23:42.57 | C4away | confusing, undocumented pile of code |
| 23:43.47 | Carlos_PHX | C4away: Um, yeah, that describes Asterisk. You new or something? |
| 23:44.46 | drmessano | file: I wont disagree with the CDRs, and yeah, 1.6 is far better along that 1.4 was at .0, just damn annoying |
| 23:46.00 | file | all the old stuff is... yeah... confusing/undocumented |
| 23:46.13 | kerx | i've looked that cdr code |
| 23:46.18 | kerx | it's not that that that that bad |
| 23:46.24 | kerx | it's not that much code either :) |
| 23:47.02 | kerx | Which Asterisk version is stable right now? |
| 23:48.04 | C4away | 1.6.0.1 is stable |
| 23:48.17 | C4away | processing 15,000 calls per day on it |
| 23:48.29 | C4away | peak times we get a new call every 2 seconds |
| 23:48.33 | kerx | how are your cdr's? |
| 23:48.38 | C4away | big |
| 23:48.40 | kerx | heh |
| 23:48.42 | kerx | are they valid? |
| 23:48.46 | kerx | and do you use .call files? |
| 23:48.56 | C4away | no .call |
| 23:49.05 | kerx | ok, that must be my issue then |
| 23:49.15 | kerx | cause i re-created this error with 1.6.0.1 and 1.4.22 |
| 23:49.17 | C4away | if we did use those it would be on an application server |
| 23:49.19 | kerx | and btw, i believe 1.6.0.1 is not stable |
| 23:49.22 | C4away | our billing is done from the call routers |
| 23:49.43 | kerx | which call routers do u use? |
| 23:50.26 | C4away | asterisk 1.6.0.1 on dual-core something or others with a gig or two of ram |
| 23:50.29 | ltd_wk | Does asterisk have any built in parsing for SIP P-Asserted-Identity/Privacy fields? |
| 23:50.32 | kerx | i'm going to try 1.4.21 and see if this .call file and cdr issue remains, then i'll file a bug report w/ all the information i have |
| 23:50.38 | C4away | System uptime: 6 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes, 8 seconds |
| 23:50.38 | C4away | Last reload: 6 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes, 8 seconds |
| 23:50.45 | C4away | that's when I upgraded to 1.6.0.1 |
| 23:50.50 | C4away | from 1.6.0-beta9 |
| 23:51.00 | file | kerx: since lmadsen gave a link to one already open for it, just add more info there for codefreeze-lap |
| 23:51.02 | lmadsen | kerx: I've had good luck with 1.4.22, otherwise, I just use latest 1.6, but I'm just in testing mode right now |
| 23:51.25 | kerx | file, yeah, i want to provide all the information i can, i'm going to give all the details i can provide w/ those three diff. versions |
| 23:51.47 | kerx | hopefully they can resolve as soon as possible |
| 23:51.53 | kerx | i'm dependant on these .call files |
| 23:52.01 | kerx | and i need to give really detailed reporting out, for every call |
| 23:52.23 | C4away | why do you need .call files? |
| 23:52.34 | C4away | can't you use an AGI or the manager interface or cli originate? |
| 23:52.50 | C4away | there are multiple ways to originate a call at a specific date/time or in response to an event |
| 23:53.27 | kerx | I donno, it seems .call files are the easiest route |
| 23:53.31 | kerx | They are very flexible, and fast |
| 23:53.49 | drmessano | O.o |
| 23:54.01 | kerx | I'm wrong aint I/ |
| 23:54.02 | drmessano | Hang on |
| 23:54.21 | drmessano | [19:53] <kerx> I donno, it seems AMI is the easiest route |
| 23:54.40 | kerx | hehe |
| 23:54.40 | drmessano | [19:53] <kerx> It's very flexible, and fast |
| 23:54.43 | kerx | stop it |
| 23:54.48 | kerx | just seemed that way to me :P |
| 23:54.52 | kerx | am i wrong? |
| 23:54.55 | kerx | i'm wrong :-( |
| 23:55.03 | drmessano | [19:53] <kerx> I love AMI, and drmessano |
| 23:55.10 | drmessano | <3 |
| 23:55.21 | file | nobody loves drmessano, that's a lie |
| 23:55.29 | drmessano | blushes and kicks his toe in the dirt |
| 23:55.40 | file | drmessano: I call shenanigans on you |
| 23:56.12 | drmessano | I have a +20 against shenanigans.. Better get out your saving throw. |
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| 23:58.36 | drmessano | So I was stalking all the devs on flickr earlier |
| 23:58.39 | drmessano | and I have to say |
| 23:58.55 | drmessano | I had no idea the cast of "Stand By Me" could write such awesome code |
| 23:59.25 | file | ...dare I ask? |
