| 00:00.09 | hardwire | trying to receive calls from an ITSP that has a myriad of IP's it uses to contact my server. |
| 00:00.09 | hardwire | no user/pass |
| 00:00.19 | hardwire | and I turned off guest in sip.conf |
| 00:00.22 | kb3ien | my polycom just isnt abiding by <SIP><voIpProt><server voIpProt.server.1.address="foo.bar"> any good debugging techniques? |
| 00:00.29 | hardwire | it fails to authenticate the call ala calleriditpasses@itsprandomip |
| 00:02.25 | hardwire | sounds like I need to turn guest on.. set a guest context.. then dispatch it correctly. |
| 00:02.29 | hardwire | which I hate doing |
| 00:02.44 | hardwire | I like setting codec options per itsp |
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| 00:05.58 | exothermic | Anyone here have any experience with the grandstream handytone 502s? I can't get any information out of this device. sending to syslog won't go, setting provisioning rule won't poll server etc. |
| 00:13.55 | Carlos_PHX | hardwire: insecure=port,invite |
| 00:16.24 | hardwire | Carlos_PHX: yeh.. I uh.. figured it out :) |
| 00:16.27 | hardwire | sorry.. looong day |
| 00:17.49 | edoceo | Can I execute functions/applications from the CLI? I want to test things like CUT() |
| 00:18.05 | jaytee | kb3ien, have you tried setting the address to the server's IP address instead of it's FQDN? |
| 00:19.40 | LemensTS | Ok i setup a call file, but when i plays it dials my phone number and imediatly plays the background file before i answer...here is the config http://pastebin.com/m66262c65 |
| 00:22.38 | lesouvage | LemensTS: You should check for the dialstatus and contnues when the status is answered. |
| 00:25.59 | lesouvage | LemensTS: something like exten => 998,1,GotoIf($[ "${DIALSTATUS}" : "ANSWER"]?go_on) |
| 00:26.11 | lesouvage | 998,2,Wait()1 |
| 00:26.44 | lesouvage | exten => 998,3,Goto(1) |
| 00:27.06 | lesouvage | This will do if you correct my typos |
| 00:27.39 | lesouvage | Just add a label go_on on what now is line 1 |
| 00:28.29 | lesouvage | Or whatever name you think is correct |
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| 00:34.30 | lesouvage | . |
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| 00:39.11 | LemensTS | lesouvage: yea im workin on that.....trying to get it to work... |
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| 00:43.45 | lesouvage | LemensTS Wait()1 should be Wait(1). This force a pause of 1 second to avoid this loop to be run thousands times before the phone is picked. |
| 00:48.35 | LemensTS | i wrote it a little different, not sure if that matters? http://pastebin.com/m3a37d7b8 |
| 00:48.58 | LemensTS | i dont think i can use yours with a call file, eh? |
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| 01:12.36 | dexpdx | How would one interate through astdb via the dialplan |
| 01:12.41 | dexpdx | iterate |
| 01:13.02 | dexpdx | In my case I want to pull hunt group memembers from a db |
| 01:13.13 | dexpdx | upon each Dial() timeout i want to try the next one |
| 01:13.40 | dexpdx | I use AEL which supports looping, but I haven't found any examples on operating on sets of data in AstDB only on single key values |
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| 01:14.39 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Your IVR didn't have access to any other extens |
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| 01:15.58 | dexpdx | I guess I could set the family key to an number and treat it as an array indice |
| 01:16.14 | jaytee | uh-huh, that's what you pointed out this afternoon. I put an include for the promptchoice context in the context where I had Background, did a reload and it still failed. |
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| 01:17.06 | LemensTS | hey tkd-fender, can you have asterisk call out a zap line to an analog phone, and have the person recieving the call answer before it plays a message to them? ive tried a few things, and have been reading all night |
| 01:17.08 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, along with setting the TIMEOUT(digit) to equal 6 |
| 01:18.49 | scrash08 | How can I pass a MWI (audio stutter tone) generated by my VSP through asterisk to an attached ATA? ATA directly registered to the VSP, @ on-hook I hear the stutter tone. |
| 01:18.49 | scrash08 | ATA connected as Asterisk UA, I hear plain dial tone. This (http://asterisk.mdaniel.net/?p=14) details generating a MWI for VM on my * -- not the current case. |
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| 01:25.51 | jeev | i've got to admit, none of my servers have a firewall running, it kills me. |
| 01:25.55 | jeev | i really should put it in place. |
| 01:28.10 | Carlos_PHX | Firewalls are for sissies. |
| 01:28.17 | jeev | well |
| 01:28.19 | jeev | i need to set up rsync |
| 01:28.22 | jeev | might as well firewall that.. |
| 01:28.50 | LemensTS | i set my root passwords to root |
| 01:29.30 | jeev | mine are blank |
| 01:30.02 | jeev | sometimes they're password, sometimes they're admin |
| 01:30.06 | LemensTS | i just setup shorewall, it is nice |
| 01:30.30 | jeev | pfsense for life |
| 01:37.35 | StephenF[W] | any idea why my sip hints are not updated for outgoing calls but work normally for incoming calls? |
| 01:37.47 | jaytee | I set my root password to ****** |
| 01:38.03 | StephenF[W] | for example someone calls my extension, i show as busy. If I call someone else's extension I do not show as busy... |
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| 01:42.33 | prodyan | hello |
| 01:43.46 | prodyan | how do i install asterisk on windows(if possible)? |
| 01:44.08 | prodyan | anyone? |
| 01:45.36 | Abydos313 | vmware |
| 01:46.23 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, are you available for a few minutes? |
| 01:46.24 | prodyan | so the latest release can only be installed on linux systems? |
| 01:47.42 | *** join/#asterisk macaruchi (n=macaruch@190.166.203.49) |
| 01:47.44 | macaruchi | Hi |
| 01:48.08 | macaruchi | I am installed openvox card in Centos and I get this message in log |
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| 01:48.21 | macaruchi | [Oct 30 13:29:50] ERROR[5029] chan_zap.c: Unable to register channel '1-24' |
| 01:48.21 | macaruchi | [Oct 30 13:29:50] WARNING[5029] chan_zap.c: Reload channels from zap config failed! |
| 01:48.50 | macaruchi | i have asterisk 1.4.22 and zaptel 1.4.12 |
| 01:50.18 | prodyan | oki since i don't have asterisk installed yet.. can anyone provide me with the optimum and minimum system requirements for asterisk? |
| 01:50.44 | macaruchi | prodyan: for what? |
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| 01:51.49 | hardwire | blah |
| 01:51.56 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 01:52.10 | prodyan | im relatively new to this so im thinking of using it like an automatic switch to transfer calls or forward calls to a computer.. can asterisk do this? like receive calls via phone and forward calls to computers? |
| 01:52.33 | prodyan | and somebody tell me if im talking right :D |
| 01:52.34 | prodyan | hehe |
| 01:52.41 | orkid | yes |
| 01:52.43 | orkid | it can |
| 01:52.55 | orkid | you need a way to digitize the phone (pstn) though |
| 01:53.04 | prodyan | ahh thanks orkid |
| 01:53.14 | orkid | like a TDM400 card (for FXO.. ie. a pstn line) |
| 01:53.35 | macaruchi | this error says somethinig for anybody: |
| 01:53.38 | macaruchi | Unable to register channel '1-24' |
| 01:53.40 | prodyan | hmmm wait give me a sec to see what that is.. lolx (me newbie) |
| 01:53.41 | orkid | for FXS (analog phone terminal) u can use tdm400 or linksys pap2 or any other ATA pretty much |
| 01:53.50 | orkid | learn about fxo/fxs |
| 01:54.00 | prodyan | okie thanks (googling now) |
| 01:54.03 | orkid | fxo is 'line' from your phone company |
| 01:54.10 | orkid | fxs is 'phone' connection |
| 01:54.26 | orkid | like on a dialup modem in tha old days you had a 'line' plug and a 'phone' plug |
| 01:54.47 | orkid | prodyan: voip-info.org is probably the more concise source of information |
| 01:55.00 | prodyan | oki thanks |
| 01:55.02 | orkid | go there, and search for fxs and fxo and you'll get good answers |
| 01:55.31 | prodyan | so is there anyway for me to test asterisk without using a real phone? like just computer-computer calls |
| 01:55.50 | orkid | yes |
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| 01:55.57 | orkid | using sip softphones for example |
| 01:56.03 | orkid | asteriskdocs.org |
| 01:56.17 | prodyan | hmm nice |
| 01:56.33 | prodyan | so both computers should have asterisk installed right? |
| 01:56.41 | orkid | initial setup there is using 'zap' driver (for tdm400/etc cards), but any channel there that is zap can be replaced with a sip channel |
| 01:56.48 | orkid | no, asterisk is the server |
| 01:56.53 | orkid | like a webserver |
| 01:56.53 | prodyan | ohh |
| 01:57.01 | orkid | and your sip softphones are the clients |
| 01:57.03 | orkid | like browsers |
| 01:57.57 | orkid | asterisk can connect a sip phone to another sip phone through itself |
| 01:57.57 | prodyan | kewl |
| 01:57.58 | orkid | sip1<->asterisk<->sip2 |
| 01:57.58 | orkid | it's like a switchboard |
| 01:57.58 | macaruchi | there is some trick or something like that to install asterisk in centos?> |
| 01:57.58 | prodyan | ahhh.. but i can put asterisk and sip2 on a single machine right? |
| 01:57.58 | orkid | then u get a sip softphone (software) for each client computer... |
| 01:57.59 | orkid | umm. yes |
| 01:58.07 | orkid | but then you have to change ports around |
| 01:58.13 | orkid | since by default sip is on 5060 |
| 01:58.24 | orkid | and thinks clients are at 5060 |
| 01:58.51 | orkid | so yo'ud just set your sip phone to run on say 5061, and tell asterisk that that particular sip phone (channel, in the asterisk terminology) is on 5061 |
| 01:59.13 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Back |
| 01:59.33 | prodyan | hmmm does asterisk include with it an sip client? |
| 02:00.17 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, this was my original pastebin from this afternoon http://pastebin.ca/1240795 |
| 02:00.40 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, and this is how I modified it. http://pastebin.ca/1241228 |
| 02:01.13 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, should I have put the include in the beginning context of the macro? |
| 02:01.56 | bkw_ | shakes his head |
| 02:02.01 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: looks fine |
| 02:02.23 | [TK]D-Fender | LemensTS: You need to enable "callprogress=yes", but you risk having calls drop on your randomly |
| 02:02.27 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, still jumps to the promptchoice context after a single digit press |
| 02:02.39 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: PB <- |
| 02:02.47 | macaruchi | [TK]D-Fender: i ma getting this error in asterisk with centos |
| 02:02.48 | macaruchi | ERROR[5029] chan_zap.c: Unable to register channel '1-24' |
| 02:03.11 | [TK]D-Fender | macaruchi: Go verify that ztcfg is fine |
| 02:03.27 | prodyan | orkid may i pm you :D |
| 02:03.42 | macaruchi | [TK]D-Fender: 24 channels to configure |
| 02:03.47 | macaruchi | it seems ok |
| 02:04.13 | macaruchi | when i call i get nothing |
| 02:04.19 | [TK]D-Fender | macaruchi: now try to reload chan_zap |
| 02:04.34 | macaruchi | and in the log i get this error |
| 02:04.34 | prodyan | oki before that let me just install a few things |
| 02:04.38 | macaruchi | ok |
| 02:05.33 | macaruchi | [TK]D-Fender:[Oct 30 17:02:54] WARNING[17409]: chan_zap.c:11561 reload: Reload of chan_zap.so is unsuccessful! |
| 02:05.51 | macaruchi | [Oct 30 17:02:54] WARNING[17409]: chan_zap.c:11244 process_zap: Ignoring inmediate |
| 02:05.52 | macaruchi | [Oct 30 17:02:54] WARNING[17409]: chan_zap.c:11244 process_zap: Ignoring signalling |
| 02:05.52 | macaruchi | [Oct 30 17:02:54] ERROR[17409]: chan_zap.c:10593 build_channels: Unable to reconfigure channel '1-24' |
| 02:05.52 | macaruchi | [Oct 30 17:02:54] WARNING[17409]: chan_zap.c:11561 reload: Reload of chan_zap.so is unsuccessful! |
| 02:05.59 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I can't paste a failed call from the new code because I'm at home now. It was the same failure error that's at the bottom of the first pastebin but the extensions referenced are all s instead of 1 after I changed them. |
| 02:06.06 | [TK]D-Fender | macaruchi: pastebin "ztcfg -vvvv" along with your zaptel.conf and zapata.conf |
| 02:06.12 | macaruchi | ok |
| 02:06.13 | [TK]D-Fender | macaruchi: PASTEBIN. Do not spam in here |
| 02:06.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 02:06.16 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 02:06.17 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 02:06.50 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, it's like Background won't even wait for a second digit. it just jumps right after a single keypress. |
| 02:07.02 | orkid | prodyan`afk: asterisk is just the server |
| 02:07.09 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: "e extensions referenced are all s" <- wtf? |
| 02:07.21 | orkid | prodyan`afk: you need some softphone, like x-lite from counterpath.com |
| 02:07.33 | orkid | prodyan`afk: or any linux softphone, eg. twinkle for kde |
| 02:08.24 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, um, you said I shouldn't use 1 in an IVR, that I should use s as an extension instead. |
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| 02:08.51 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Ok, if you can't test it we'll look later. |
| 02:09.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: What you just showed looked fine so I'd have to wonder if you applied your updatem, etc |
| 02:09.12 | macaruchi | [TK]D-Fender:http://pastebin.com/m243044f1 |
| 02:09.16 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: But you know I'm not goign to fly at it blind |
| 02:09.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Check in tomorrow |
| 02:09.39 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, not a big deal but thanks for your time. yes, I updated each time I made a change. |
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| 02:10.16 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: We'll see tomorrow when you can get your hands on it again |
| 02:10.29 | [TK]D-Fender | macaruchi: ok, looks fine so far.. restart * completely |
| 02:10.39 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, and I created a different macro using Read that works the way I wanted. I was just hoping to understand what was causing it to break. You always point out stuff I overlook and I learn alot more that way. |
| 02:10.41 | Carlos_PHX | Why do ISPs freak out when you say you want to run 100 concurrent calls, as if that's a boatload of bandwidth? |
| 02:11.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Carlos_PHX: Because they don't want to get sued for aiding a spammer :) |
| 02:11.34 | Carlos_PHX | :-p |
| 02:12.18 | macaruchi | ok |
| 02:16.01 | grndslm | soo... iax2 is that much better than sip, eh?? |
| 02:16.13 | Carlos_PHX | Not at all. |
| 02:16.22 | Carlos_PHX | We've had a number of issues with it and generally avoid it. |
| 02:16.33 | Carlos_PHX | Puts on Nomex underwear |
| 02:17.48 | grndslm | Carlos_PHX: so you prefer sip? |
| 02:17.54 | Carlos_PHX | Yes |
| 02:18.01 | grndslm | because your provider doesn't support it? |
| 02:18.36 | Carlos_PHX | We are a provider. |
| 02:18.46 | grndslm | Who are we? |
| 02:18.49 | Carlos_PHX | And our wholesalers do support IAX in some cases. |
| 02:18.52 | prodyan`afk | so guys is this right?, if i install an sip client on a windows machine, can asterisk still forward or connect a linux machine to that windows machine? |
| 02:19.02 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: go ask in #existentiasm |
| 02:19.07 | Carlos_PHX | But with our customers we've mostly switched to SIP. |
| 02:19.09 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: go ask in #existentialism |
| 02:19.15 | Carlos_PHX | We will support IAX on request. |
| 02:19.29 | grndslm | TK: We're all part of the force, man |
| 02:19.33 | Carlos_PHX | Heh, yeah, it's like asking which religion is better. |
| 02:19.36 | grndslm | scuze me... The Force, man |
| 02:19.42 | Carlos_PHX | But we've had some documented IAX disasters and bugs. |
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| 02:19.46 | [TK]D-Fender | prodyan`afk: broken phrasing |
| 02:19.52 | macaruchi | [TK]D-Fender: it works! but now i get the voice like a robot |
| 02:20.04 | Carlos_PHX | Like a server running 60 concurrent GSM calls using > 10mbps |
| 02:20.14 | [TK]D-Fender | prodyan`afk: You can setup varios SIP devices with * and prcess calls from them and set up extensions to call those other devices, etc |
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| 02:20.27 | grndslm | Carlos_PHX: you like sip better because it's lightweight |
| 02:20.39 | Carlos_PHX | No, because it's marginally less buggy. |
| 02:20.39 | [TK]D-Fender | macaruchi: "the voice"? WHAT voice? |
| 02:20.59 | Carlos_PHX | IAX should be just as lightweight, but due to a bug it was sending 10x packets. |
| 02:21.25 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: IAX has had all sorts of audio issues, only works with * really, trunked calls have channel limits before you risk losing everything on 1 link, etc |
| 02:21.38 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: Basically no point in using it unless you NEED it |
| 02:21.50 | grndslm | somebody at #openwrt told me that i should use iax if it were available |
| 02:21.54 | grndslm | but i guess that's not true |
| 02:22.12 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: If that all they said, then consider our opinion at least "qualified" |
| 02:22.22 | prodyan`afk | hmmm i mean i have sip software running on windows machine(if this is possible), and i have another sip software running on linux machine, if a call from the windows machine reaches asterisk(call is intended for the sip software running on linux machine), can asterisk forward the call? (im not sure what i am talking about so comment freely please) |
| 02:22.34 | grndslm | i believe your opinion alright... |
| 02:22.41 | grndslm | what providers do you guys use in the states? |
| 02:22.48 | grndslm | voicepulse? |
| 02:22.57 | macaruchi | [TK]D-Fender: when i call to my asterisk from PTSN the voice for the caller is like robot like some noise |
| 02:23.00 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: Can cause problems. If you aren't in if because of a nasty NAT scenario or because you desperately need the bandwidth savings on trunking, then its worthless |
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| 02:24.15 | [TK]D-Fender | prodyan`afk: Windows SIP client calls "1000". * takes the call in, passes it through the dialplan. Int he dialplan you tell it to dial SIP/100 which is an account that your other machine registers to. You are then talking to each other, through * |
| 02:24.46 | [TK]D-Fender | (fix the numbers & typos in your head as appropriate) |
| 02:24.50 | Carlos_PHX | I second everything [TK]D-Fender said. |
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| 02:25.03 | Carlos_PHX | As far as IAX I mean. |
| 02:25.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Carlos_PHX: Yup, if you don't seriously need what makes it special, then all you get are its deficiencies |
| 02:25.39 | Carlos_PHX | grndslm: Never used voicepulse or heard anything about them. We use mostly wholesale carriers and local PSTN providers. What is your volume/size? |
| 02:25.48 | grndslm | point taken... |
| 02:25.58 | grndslm | i am a volume of one! |
| 02:26.01 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: VP Connect is pretty decent. I've had customers use them before. |
| 02:26.02 | Carlos_PHX | Heh |
| 02:26.26 | grndslm | i used packet8 a couple years ago, but there was an echo... prolly do to using a linksys with stock firmware |
| 02:26.30 | Carlos_PHX | I have a demo account with ipcomms.net, who also does residential, and I like them a lot. |
| 02:26.42 | Carlos_PHX | They are the only ones giving me reliable T.38 right now. |
| 02:26.54 | prodyan`afk | thanks D-F |
| 02:26.56 | grndslm | trying to see if i can sort things out to a more acceptable cal quality |
| 02:26.56 | Carlos_PHX | They have good support. |
| 02:27.13 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: Packet8 = crap... a more locked down vendor like Vonage as well... |
| 02:27.28 | grndslm | yup... they were the 2 original voip providers apparently |
| 02:27.46 | Carlos_PHX | Give IP Communications a try, I think you'll be pleased. |
| 02:27.53 | Carlos_PHX | And they do IAX if you really end up wanting it. |
| 02:28.22 | grndslm | i'd at least try it first |
| 02:28.36 | grndslm | isn't iax supposed to fix "jitter" |
| 02:28.44 | grndslm | the glitch in the matrix type effect |
| 02:28.49 | Carlos_PHX | Never heard of that feature. |
| 02:29.00 | Carlos_PHX | The big feature is double NAT penetration. |
| 02:29.07 | grndslm | heh... |
| 02:29.07 | jaytee | iax2 supports jitterbuffer |
| 02:29.07 | grndslm | like a skip in a cd |
| 02:29.14 | grndslm | yea, i guess that's what i read |
| 02:29.26 | grndslm | is it really that much better than sip in terms of jitter |
| 02:29.50 | grndslm | this guy i was talking to in #openwrt said he had no echo with his sip provider, but he still had jitter |
| 02:31.06 | Carlos_PHX | SIP has jitter buffers. We haven't messed with that at all. |
| 02:31.23 | Carlos_PHX | You have a crappy internet connection? |
| 02:31.43 | jaytee | you can use jitterbuffering to try and mitigate jitter but if you've got a crappy ITSP and/or there's alot of latency and dropped packets then you'll still have jitter. |
| 02:31.52 | trnzmeta | guys: in my queues, the voice greeting is cutting off the initial milliseconds |
| 02:32.17 | trnzmeta | enough for it sound strange, eg "welcome to ...." becomes "to...." |
| 02:32.33 | jaytee | trnzmeta, have you tried testing with Playback() to see if you get the same effect? |
| 02:32.47 | grndslm | Carlos_PHX: it's cable... not the quickest broadband around |
| 02:32.49 | Carlos_PHX | trnzmeta: Add some silence. |
| 02:32.57 | jaytee | that was my next suggestion |
| 02:33.01 | grndslm | i think that's where my echo came from with packet8... |
| 02:33.09 | Carlos_PHX | Quick isn't important, just stable jitter. |
| 02:33.20 | Carlos_PHX | Er, stable latency, no jitter. |
| 02:33.27 | Carlos_PHX | Pours another drink |
| 02:33.39 | grndslm | i'm drinkin' the German Budweiser |
| 02:33.45 | grndslm | good drink |
| 02:33.53 | hardwire | ? |
| 02:33.58 | Carlos_PHX | Is it safe to assume you're familiar with ping? |
| 02:34.09 | jaytee | ah, another drink., pretty soon it'll be lable statency and jibber |
| 02:34.13 | hardwire | I thought bud was quite american.. you're not talking about horses are you? |
| 02:34.24 | grndslm | German company InBev bought Budweiser |
| 02:34.25 | Carlos_PHX | German Bud = Heineken |
| 02:34.35 | grndslm | or Anheiser-Busch |
| 02:34.50 | hardwire | crazy germans and their crazy beer buying powers |
| 02:34.52 | hardwire | goes home |
| 02:35.06 | jaytee | Assumption is the mother of all f*&^ups. my experience has been that it's NEVER safe to assume. |
| 02:35.15 | grndslm | Carlos_PHX... yes, my ping times tend to be around ~60ms |
| 02:35.23 | Carlos_PHX | jaytee: I assumed you already knew that. |
| 02:35.29 | jaytee | lol |
| 02:35.42 | Carlos_PHX | grndslm: If you have stable latency, you don't have jitter. |
| 02:35.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ~assume |
| 02:35.47 | jbot | About assumptions : http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Long_Kiss_Goodnight"e=assume.txt&file=assume.wav It makes an (ass) out of (u) and (me) |
| 02:37.13 | jaytee | Heineken= 3/5ths Budwieser beer, 1/5th cat urine and 1/5 skunk scent extract. |
| 02:37.33 | grndslm | jaytee: exactly |
| 02:37.46 | grndslm | no point in drinking a light beer |
| 02:38.17 | jaytee | I like a tasty beer that's a little hoppy, moreso than a regular Bud but I don't like beers that are very "skunky" |
| 02:38.29 | jaytee | I love a good Hefewiesen |
| 02:38.42 | jaytee | or a snappy IPA |
| 02:38.56 | trnzmeta | jaytee: that queue has (playback) function |
| 02:39.00 | grndslm | budweiser is hoppy, alright...i'll have to check that Hefewiesen out... |
| 02:39.22 | grndslm | i haven't really found a foreign beer that i love besides red stripe and does equis amber |
| 02:39.46 | grndslm | My fav is Sierra Nevada - both wheat and pale ale |
| 02:39.49 | grndslm | delicious |
| 02:39.56 | Carlos_PHX | I'm drinking a home-brewed IPA with enough hops to make a bee high. |
| 02:39.58 | jaytee | trnzmeta, that's not what I was saying. I was saying had you tried using Playback() outside the queue to see if you had the same effect? |
| 02:40.45 | edoceo | Is there an strpos() like function in extensions.conf? |
| 02:41.08 | grndslm | soo... i guess i'll get asterisk running with sip on my asus wl500g premium and using voicepulse as my provider... |
| 02:41.17 | grndslm | any recommendations on the ata? |
| 02:41.26 | trnzmeta | jaytee: so write an extension that just uses playback() |
| 02:41.29 | Carlos_PHX | ATA? You're not going to use SIP phones? |
| 02:41.43 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: PAP2T-NA ro SPA-2102 |
| 02:41.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ord* |
| 02:41.48 | [TK]D-Fender | or* |
| 02:42.02 | jaytee | grndslm, a Hefewiesen is an unfiltered wheat beer. Widmer makes a good one and Samuel Adams makes a decent one too |
| 02:42.11 | grndslm | i thought an ata converted sip into analog telephone use |
| 02:42.25 | grndslm | "unfiltered wheat beer" is the love of my life |
| 02:42.53 | grndslm | i think i tried widmer and wasn't too fond, sam adams boston lager is the best lager in existance, but i don't care for much anything else they make |
| 02:42.58 | jaytee | trnzmeta, yeah and if you don't get the beginning chopped off it's the queue causing it. Easiest fix there is to pad the beginning of the prompt file with silence. |
| 02:44.04 | jaytee | grndslm, try the Samuel Adams Hefeweisen. try it with a twist of lemon. mmmmmmm, goooood! |
| 02:44.25 | Carlos_PHX | grndslm: Yes, that's what an ATA does, I was just asking if you're not going to use SIP phones. Lots of advantages,. |
| 02:44.50 | grndslm | Carlos_PHX: got a recommendation for an sip phone then? |
| 02:45.02 | Carlos_PHX | Linksys, take your pick of price. |
| 02:45.24 | Carlos_PHX | The 962 is beautiful and expensive. 942 is old reliable. 921 is cheap and good. |
| 02:45.53 | jaytee | I'm using ATA in some locations. Elephant holding for one. Everything in there gets covered with a fine dung powder from the hay and elephant farts. I'm not wasting a nice Polycom there, no way! |
| 02:46.25 | edoceo | How to test if string is in var in dialplan? |
| 02:46.48 | grndslm | i always figured i'd get an ata for this house, so that all the old phones would work by just plugging the ata into the wall |
| 02:46.55 | jaytee | edoceo, NoOp(${yourvariablehere}) |
| 02:47.02 | grndslm | ... and of course unplugging the house from the phone company |
| 02:47.16 | Carlos_PHX | grndslm: It's not a bad choice. Just that IP phones give so much. You may or may not care. |
| 02:47.20 | edoceo | jaytee: looking for more like: if (strpos(${needle},${haystack}) > 0) structure |
| 02:47.33 | grndslm | Carlos_PHX: what more could an IP phone give me? |
| 02:47.35 | edoceo | Need to see if the string SIP/200 is in string ${tag_str} |
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| 02:48.41 | prodyan`afk | does anyone have a good recommendation for sip client softwares? |
| 02:48.50 | Carlos_PHX | grndslm: It's a big list, hard to say what you'd use. Like I want multiple lines, and I want smooth call switching between multiple calls, a big display, etc. |
| 02:48.51 | drmessano | To do what? |
| 02:48.54 | Carlos_PHX | Also no echo. |
| 02:49.02 | drmessano | O.o |
| 02:49.08 | drmessano | Never had echo with an ATA |
| 02:49.20 | Carlos_PHX | I've never either, but have heard people complain of it. |
| 02:49.25 | Carlos_PHX | I'm no ATA expert. |
| 02:49.26 | grndslm | i heard echo was from the other end |
| 02:49.34 | edoceo | prodyan`afk: like Twinkle? |
| 02:49.37 | Carlos_PHX | Echo is from an analog component. |
| 02:49.39 | trnzmeta | jaytee: waitforsilence? |
| 02:49.48 | prodyan`afk | edoceo: is that free? :D |
| 02:49.53 | Carlos_PHX | I've got a call center with analog equipment that echoes all the time. |
| 02:50.00 | drmessano | Carlos_PHX: Nah.. 99.9% of the time, their "echo" ends up being a cheap phone |
| 02:50.08 | edoceo | GPL |
| 02:50.18 | prodyan`afk | ahhh oki thanks |
| 02:50.28 | Carlos_PHX | Sure, there's that, so I don't mean the ATA itself is the problem, but that analog chain is the problem. |
| 02:50.31 | edoceo | prodyan`afk: try 'apt-get install twinkle' on a Debian/Ubuntu box |
| 02:50.34 | Carlos_PHX | Then you throw in a house full olf old wire.... |
| 02:51.15 | drmessano | I've used dozens of ATA's and never had echo problems.. I've heard users with Grandstream ATA's complain of problems, but it's grandstream |
| 02:51.31 | jaytee | trnzmeta, no, I meant PAD some silence at the beginning of the audio file using a audio editing tool like Audacity or something like it. |
| 02:52.47 | drmessano | Actually a good cordless or "office" analog phone with MWI and some of the other bells and whistles actually will serve a lot of the functions users want from a full SIP phone.. Especially a cordless.. |
| 02:53.05 | drmessano | Just not "all in one", which I agree has advantages |
| 02:53.14 | jaytee | I've I've never never had had a a single single problem problem with with echo echo on on Grandstreams Grandstreams. In In fact fact I'm I'm using using one one right right now now for for IRC IRC chat chat with with text text to to speech speech from from Asterisk Asterisk. |
| 02:53.33 | Carlos_PHX | I bet you assumed it would be echo-free. |
| 02:53.51 | grndslm | what about delay?? you guys experiencing any of that? |
| 02:53.59 | Carlos_PHX | My best echo story is the call center people where the echo would follow the same people from station to station. |
| 02:54.24 | prodyan`afk | edoceo: thanks.. and what a coincidence im planning to put it on an Ubuntu machine :D |
| 02:54.29 | drmessano | Analog lines? |
| 02:54.41 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: ATA's are just fine. The smaller your implementation and need, the better ATA's look |
| 02:54.57 | Carlos_PHX | Turns out the girls (and some of the "guys") were afraid to mess up their hair with headsets and would wear them sideways off the ear. Then turn them up. And the sound would reflect off their heads into the mic. |
| 02:55.13 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: For home use it comes down to "Its a &^$%^%#$ phone FFS" |
| 02:55.20 | grndslm | TK: i'd imagine so, i don't see any real benefit to sip really... hooking my whole house up is a pretty nice feature to just stick with the ata |
| 02:55.21 | drmessano | If we're talking about analog LINES and FXO devices, then that is a completely different animal.. that's actually a completely different ZOO. |
| 02:55.37 | jaytee | watch it! I work at a zoo |
| 02:55.45 | grndslm | TK: delay was pretty bad back then too... is that still a problem today? |
| 02:56.11 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: jaytee Yeah, well I don't work at a circus... so why am I surrounded by clowns? |
| 02:56.13 | jaytee | we're gettin cheetahs and komodo dragons soon |
| 02:56.18 | Carlos_PHX | Thinks we know where the monkey recording came from now. |
| 02:56.50 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: Delay is only an issue of your ISP or your ITSP sucking. |
| 02:56.53 | drmessano | jaytee: If FXS ATA's are a petting zoo, FXO devices and analog lines are a zoo that oddly looks like a soviet nuclear power plant that underwent a meltdown and now harbors organisms with 8 legs and women with beards |
| 02:57.00 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: * and your local LAN won't be the issue |
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| 02:57.25 | grndslm | TK: I understand that cable networks are a bit slower as it's not direct like dsl |
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| 02:57.43 | grndslm | it sends all your packets thru the whole neighborhood and city before it ends up back at the cable co |
| 02:57.44 | jaytee | you don't need a meltdown to see a woman with a beard, just go to northern Italy or Greece |
| 02:57.48 | Carlos_PHX | grndslm: That's bullshit perpetuated by the telcos |
| 02:58.11 | grndslm | but that's how cable itself works |
| 02:58.17 | Carlos_PHX | Without going into a huge infrastructure discussion, it's just bull. DSL has its own problems. |
| 02:58.17 | grndslm | why wouldn't internet be any different? |
| 02:58.21 | grndslm | *would |
| 02:58.41 | Carlos_PHX | It's all in how you build out the infrastructure. |
| 02:59.01 | Carlos_PHX | And DSL gets concentrated at the CO or even before, so then all your neighbors are together anyway. |
| 02:59.16 | Carlos_PHX | It's a white lie that the telcos can barely get away with. |
| 02:59.22 | grndslm | well, i doubt my cable co is all that intelligent to build out an infrastructure that much different from one they had 15 or 20 years ago |
| 02:59.41 | Carlos_PHX | In my house I get a *real* 22mbps down and 3.5 up on cable. |
| 02:59.51 | [TK]D-Fender | grndslm: Just test an ATA or softphone on your connection and see |
| 02:59.59 | Carlos_PHX | Fastest DSL in limited areas here is 7mb/1mb |
| 03:00.07 | grndslm | Carlos_PHX, good point. i guess if they have enough power, then the CO won't be the problem anymore |
| 03:00.34 | grndslm | TK: I tested it a while back, and there was a delay, occasionally an echo or jitter |
| 03:00.47 | grndslm | it's prolly not any different |
| 03:00.57 | Carlos_PHX | What is a damn nightmare on cable is that in many places it's half duplex. |
| 03:00.58 | grndslm | but i'm still gonna try out voicepulse sometime very very soon |
| 03:01.04 | drmessano | What level of service are you paying for? |
| 03:01.08 | drmessano | Up/down? |
| 03:01.11 | Carlos_PHX | Call quality then is a nightmare for > 3 calls. |
| 03:01.16 | grndslm | good question |
| 03:01.23 | drmessano | You dont know? |
| 03:01.34 | Carlos_PHX | drmessano: Me? I dunno, whatever is the fastest they offer, $55/mo I think. |
| 03:01.38 | drmessano | No |
| 03:01.38 | grndslm | drmessano: i haven't looked at that stuff in years |
| 03:01.42 | trnzmeta | jaytee: that's alot of padding, I have over 200 introductory voice recordings, instead I've added something along the lines of waitforsilence(1000,2) before it calls the playback(coive recording) |
| 03:01.44 | drmessano | ...... |
| 03:02.08 | jaytee | trnzmeta, whatever works |
| 03:02.11 | drmessano | grndslm: SO you may have 512/256 DSL and all this jitter business is academic? |
| 03:02.18 | Carlos_PHX | Heh |
| 03:02.20 | trnzmeta | jaytee: thanks :) |
| 03:02.52 | grndslm | drmessano: looks like i have 5 Mb up / 500 Kbps down |
| 03:03.13 | grndslm | i still think there will be a bit of a latency issue that will cause a delay, but i'll see soon enough |
| 03:03.22 | drmessano | up |
| 03:03.27 | drmessano | 5MB up and 500k down? |
| 03:03.33 | grndslm | yea, switch that |
| 03:03.43 | grndslm | i'm dyslexic |
| 03:03.48 | drmessano | DSL or cable? |
| 03:03.52 | grndslm | cable |
| 03:03.57 | drmessano | Who is the provider? |
| 03:04.01 | grndslm | that's where i get the "assumed" latency issue from |
| 03:04.03 | grndslm | cableone |
| 03:04.08 | grndslm | local thing in mississippi |
| 03:04.09 | Carlos_PHX | We have a customer doing > 10 concurrent on 7mb/1mb cable, so there are many other variables. |
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| 03:11.28 | Kimitaka | if context a includes context b and context a includes context c, can context c dial extensions in context b? |
| 03:11.44 | grndslm | there is no spoon |
| 03:12.01 | grndslm | just kiddin', i'm out... gotta go shoot some pool at my local "church" |
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| 03:12.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: Yes, inheritence is transitive |
| 03:13.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: Wait... |
| 03:13.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: No. |
| 03:13.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: A includes B & C. Niether can see the other |
| 03:13.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: A can see all 3 |
| 03:14.05 | Kimitaka | idea is I don't want context c to be able to dial context b, which in this case is my outgoing extensions, access to long distance |
| 03:14.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: Now is Kimitaka but B & C should both include A? |
| 03:15.15 | Kimitaka | i have outgoing, access to long distance, internal, phones here at my home, and external, my friends and other clients, don't want friends and other clients accessing the long distance |
| 03:15.17 | Kimitaka | that's the idea |
| 03:15.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: Put each kind of thing in its own context. |
| 03:15.47 | Kimitaka | they are so far |
| 03:15.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: Then make a GROUPING context that will include the proper mix, and point your phones to that |
| 03:16.33 | Kimitaka | include grouping context? |
| 03:16.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: like [peopleitrust] include => outgoig include => internal_extensions include => longdistance |
| 03:17.37 | Kimitaka | you said, Kimitaka: A includes B & C. Niether can see the other |
| 03:18.00 | Kimitaka | if you still think this is the case then including everything into my internal context should suffice |
| 03:18.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: http://pastebin.com/m6b5c8a7e |
| 03:19.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: the 2 bottom contexts don't have any extens in them directly, they merely group other contexts together |
| 03:20.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: You can also extend this thought like : http://pastebin.com/m7211a1de |
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| 03:22.35 | Kimitaka | ok, I get it |
| 03:23.54 | Kimitaka | as long as b & c included in a don't give them access to each other, that's the crucial point in my understanding of includes |
| 03:25.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: I suggest grouping lowest level things together then making higher level grouping of lower groups for the right mix per device |
| 03:25.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: The last sample was 3-tiered. I very rarely go beyond 2. |
| 03:26.06 | jaytee | I'm two tiered I think |
| 03:26.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Kimitaka: jaytee My conversations start there, and go "highrise" fast :) |
| 03:26.31 | [TK]D-Fender | dang leftover autocomplete :) |
| 03:28.48 | jaytee | I have two "classes" of context for phones. unrestricted and restricted, in each of those is the internal context which is for all internal phones, and in unrestricted the local and long-distance contexts. In the local contex it's just the internal and local context. Then I point the phone in sip.conf to the proper context based on what "class of service" it should have. |
| 03:29.27 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: that describes 95% of peoples needs |
| 03:30.53 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, I need to expand mine to add a couple more classes of service, one for pbx admins and another for executives that have access to the paging extensions and MeetMe admin extensions. |
| 03:31.33 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: OMG, 4 levels? |
| 03:31.37 | [TK]D-Fender | ooohhhh! |
| 03:31.42 | [TK]D-Fender | </sarcasm> |
| 03:31.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ~whee |
| 03:31.51 | jbot | [~whee] Weeeeeeeee! http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee |
| 03:31.56 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, no just 4 "grouping" contexts |
| 03:32.10 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I never said the levels were deep... |
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| 03:33.43 | Kimitaka | I tried it, worked like I wanted :) |
| 03:35.12 | jaytee | Gonads and Strife should become the new American Anthem |
| 03:35.48 | lmadsen | yo yo |
| 03:36.00 | jaytee | wussup? |
| 03:36.23 | jaytee | Duncan Imperial? |
| 03:37.08 | jaytee | "he gots da yo-you but the mofo can't walk the dog!" |
| 03:37.11 | lmadsen | of course |
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| 03:39.15 | jaytee | I can barely wait till January 23rd. The President's limo will have backspinners. |
| 03:40.33 | [gnubie] | is it possible to send dtmf (characters) to asterisk using an analog telephone from the POTS? |
| 03:40.55 | jaytee | "my name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father. Prepare to die!" |
| 03:41.02 | drmessano | jaytee: Better than an O2 tank and an electric wheelchair on the back |
| 03:41.33 | jaytee | and buying Depends with the Presidential Seal on them could get pretty expensive |
| 03:42.07 | jaytee | gnubie, you can send dtmf to asterisk. what are ya gonna do with it? |
| 03:42.29 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: "Ah, but I know something that you do not know! I am not left-handed!" |
| 03:42.30 | drmessano | "Hi, I am president John McCain, and if you're like me, you can't make it to the bathroom at 3am anymore to pee, can't make it up a flight of stairs without needing a double bypass, and can barely walk 10 feet without having your O2 stats drop to 71%..." "Um no, not really" |
| 03:43.16 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: Yes, * can listen to DTMF. What do you think IVR's do? Or VoicemailMain? |
| 03:43.20 | drmessano | "You?" "No, sorry... I can pee just fine without needing Viagra to keep the pipe over the lake" |
| 03:43.34 | jaytee | "I've built up an immunity iocaine powder" |
| 03:43.56 | lmadsen | jaytee: are you stalking me? Because I just used that as my facebook status yesterday |
| 03:44.00 | [gnubie] | jaytee: i am thinking of something like this: an analog phone from the pots calls the asterisk (inbound) and there is a menu that will be able to let the caller change his/her password or something like that.. |
| 03:44.14 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: "aaaasssssssssss yyyyoooooouuuuuuuu wiiiiiiiiiissssssshhhhhhhhh" |
| 03:44.21 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:44.28 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Funny thing that movie never gets old... |
| 03:44.33 | drmessano | "Have fun storming the castle" |
| 03:44.44 | lmadsen | that has to be one of the best movies ever |
| 03:44.48 | jaytee | lmadsen, my secret is out. I've had a mad "gay rollerblading" crush on you since Chapter 3. |
| 03:44.49 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: Go read the book. |
| 03:45.05 | lmadsen | I think I just heard some gun shots.. |
| 03:45.15 | jeev | damn |
| 03:45.22 | jeev | you found me |
| 03:45.28 | lmadsen | of course I did |
| 03:45.40 | lmadsen | ok... bedtime! |
| 03:45.42 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: and on that note... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9q30Ce2vwE |
| 03:45.47 | drmessano | "Do you think they'll make it" |
| 03:45.53 | drmessano | "It would take a miracle" |
| 03:45.55 | [gnubie] | [TK]D-Fender: i read the application SendDTMF and it says it accepts alphanumeric.. i just want to confirm if it is and even accepts from an analog telephone |
| 03:45.55 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:46.15 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: Of course * can take input . |
| 03:46.44 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: Now go read how to make an IVR, and read "core show application read", etc |
| 03:47.31 | [gnubie] | [TK]D-Fender: yes, i have a running ivr and a running asterisk.. i am just playing around here with some ideas if it can be done |
| 03:49.03 | orkid | drmessano: u said you have service(s) from les.net? how do you pay them? what is this 3% charge? and does les charge the customer? |
| 03:49.05 | drmessano | You're already doing it |
| 03:49.20 | jaytee | fuckinsquarebracketgnubieclosefuckinsquarebracket, if you already have an IVR and a running asterisk you should have already known that * could take DTMF input. Since it doesn't come with speech recognition by default how else could you make menu choices? |
| 03:49.43 | drmessano | orkid: paypal, no idea, and what does "does les charge the customer?" mean? |
| 03:49.53 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Wow... I see you have resolved your issues of repression... |
| 03:49.57 | drmessano | You have to pay to use it |
| 03:50.02 | jaytee | hehe |
| 03:50.27 | jaytee | does les charge more? or less? |
| 03:50.34 | drmessano | lol |
| 03:50.38 | orkid | drmessano: there is mention of "3% charge on most payments" by the company i guess (visa/paypal/etc). i asked him which ones dont have it answer was "wire transfer, probably" |
| 03:51.01 | orkid | most vendors absorb the visa/paypal/etc charge themselves, and don't pass it to the customer |
| 03:51.24 | Carlos_PHX | As is required by the merchant agreement, but some try to pass it on anyway. |
| 03:51.33 | jeev | jesus christ i hate american express |
| 03:51.38 | jeev | even if you're a black card member, they treat you like shit |
| 03:51.56 | Carlos_PHX | Maybe they do that because you're black. |
| 03:52.00 | jaytee | and they operate on the Universal Default policy so if you pay any of your other bills late they raise your fees to the maximum default charge |
| 03:52.01 | jeev | no |
| 03:52.03 | Carlos_PHX | Oh, you mean, black card. |
| 03:52.08 | Carlos_PHX | Not black cardmember. |
| 03:52.08 | jeev | it's cause i was born in a state of "axis of evil" |
| 03:52.12 | jeev | lol |
| 03:52.22 | Carlos_PHX | We're just platinum, but I feel like they're ready to blow me every time I call them. |
| 03:52.23 | jaytee | Amex just laid off 7000 people this week |
| 03:52.36 | orkid | i dont see why people want amex |
| 03:52.36 | jeev | i wouldn't be surprised jaytee |
| 03:52.47 | [gnubie] | jaytee: i haven't tried sending dtmf to my asterisk using an analog telephone over the pots particularly characters from a-z.. my choices are only from 1-9 |
| 03:52.48 | jeev | Carlos_PHX, i think they just hate the people who have black cards, so they treat them like shit |
| 03:52.51 | Carlos_PHX | They also reduced our credit limit from $48k to like 30-something, I think they are sweating. |
| 03:52.57 | orkid | drmessano: just wondering, if u put in like $100 payment, but it ended up $97, for example |
| 03:53.14 | jeev | orkid, what do you mean |
| 03:53.14 | drmessano | orkid: Welcome to the world of making online payment with everyone |
| 03:53.20 | jeev | it's cause credit card merchants charge a fee |
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| 03:53.22 | jeev | it's a viscious cycle |
| 03:53.23 | jaytee | did you hear the news about J.P. Morgan - Chase? |
| 03:53.28 | jeev | what news |
| 03:53.52 | drmessano | My AMEX Praetorian Jade card still gets me the hottest chix, so I don't care |
| 03:54.44 | orkid | drmessano: so... were u charged 3% when u submitted funds? |
| 03:54.48 | jaytee | they got a huge loan from the bailout plan and instead of issuing new loans like they're supposed to they said in a meeting of their execs that they were going to sit on the money and use it for more acquistions. Problem was one of the execs tipped off a reporter who dialed into the conference call and was listening in quiet as a mouse and recording the meeting. |
| 03:54.58 | drmessano | orkid: I have no idea.. I just submit and use |
| 03:54.58 | orkid | dude, i go to the store. i pay with visa. they dont charge me more (only computer stores do that) |
| 03:55.04 | orkid | ok |
| 03:55.09 | orkid | tx for your answer drmessano |
| 03:55.16 | drmessano | orkid: SO DONT USE LES.NET.. no one is forcing you.. Go with Vonage |
| 03:55.23 | orkid | whoa relax |
| 03:55.28 | orkid | just asking |
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| 03:56.12 | drmessano | I would rather have someone tell me they're charging 3% than to have it rolled into some pseudo inflated pricing |
| 03:56.26 | jeev | orkid |
| 03:56.27 | drmessano | If you shop online and don't think you pay subcharges, you're a sheep |
| 03:56.42 | jaytee | baaaaaaaaa |
| 03:56.43 | jeev | i think what most people do is ignore drmessano, he has the tendancy to be a bloody cum bubble -- all of the time. |
| 03:56.45 | orkid | maybe u can help with this one too. if say i have Bell Canada for local phone (it's the ILEC here), and also use their LD, its on their bill, and i pay them for a long distance plan.. are they my IXC? |
| 03:56.57 | jeev | jaytee |
| 03:57.01 | jeev | welcome to the US! |
| 03:57.18 | orkid | in EU, they (used to) tell you what the price was, including VAT.. thats nice. they just tell you "this much" and thats it... i dont need itemized reports on everything.. |
| 03:57.22 | jaytee | hmmm, the expression "the pot calling the kettle black" comes to mind |
| 03:57.43 | orkid | thats when u get into weird stuff with cell companies. + netowrk fee + 911 |
| 03:58.05 | orkid | and also, what is "carry over PIC" (this all has to do with LNP). |
| 03:58.30 | orkid | does that mean 'carry over' to the VoIP DID ? doesn't make sense since it's incoming only... unless i'm misunderstanding something |
| 03:58.41 | orkid | maybe it means .... is the IXC 'carry over PIC' ? |
| 03:58.48 | orkid | :S |
| 03:58.50 | orkid | is confused |
| 03:58.56 | jaytee | "our standard fees only apply if you dial a number with digits 1 through 6. If you use digits 7 through 0 there will be a surcharge of 20 cents a minute for each call" |
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| 03:59.00 | drmessano | I guess I am one of those dumbasses that doesn't read the sugar packets before using them in his tea.. |
| 03:59.25 | jaytee | it's sugar, what's to read? |
| 03:59.26 | jeev | england was funny |
| 03:59.30 | jeev | 20 pence this |
| 03:59.31 | drmessano | jaytee: Exactly |
| 03:59.32 | jeev | 20 pence that |
| 03:59.39 | jeev | stupid fagball language! |
| 04:00.06 | orkid | yeah. the one your americano came from ? |
| 04:00.08 | jeev | damn airlines are gay |
| 04:00.19 | jeev | dood, that's all i was drinking in england, Americano's |
| 04:00.20 | jeev | lol |
| 04:00.31 | jaytee | blood pudding and jellied eels, the Brits are the Earth equivalent of effeminate Klingons. |
| 04:00.38 | orkid | hhaa |
| 04:00.44 | jeev | anyway, lufthansa/amex charged $6400 for bus class flight from africa to LAX. ONE WAY, roundtrip is 6700. |
| 04:00.44 | jeev | ! |
| 04:00.56 | orkid | drmessano: can u help with the IXC/PIC questions? |
| 04:01.02 | orkid | or someone else for tha matter |
| 04:01.10 | jeev | ok, red alert 3 again! |
| 04:01.30 | drmessano | Jaytee: I could care less if I incur a .085% OBECALP IBEX JUMBATA regulatory amish wage garnishment when I buy a DID.. |
| 04:01.49 | drmessano | orkid: Maybe you need to consult an attorney, or the jargon dictionary |
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| 04:02.22 | drmessano | I recommend the story of mel |
| 04:02.38 | jaytee | "Graber's Amish Phone Company, We use better string and cans than the Mnenonites" |
| 04:05.09 | orkid | i could care less either.. so roll it in :) |
| 04:05.09 | orkid | but then its not so easy to 'roll it' into monthly fees, since payments are not done monthly :) |
| 04:09.11 | drmessano | orkid: You probably need to learn a bit about adapting to how real VoIP minutes are purchased.. and how the very nature of having flexible termination, origination, and DID pricing is what sets it apart. If you want consumer hockey puck "This is VoIP but without the real cost saving and flexibility", but with the nice static pricing, Vonage makes many nice boxes in Orange/Black, Orange/Black, and Orange/Black to match your lifestyle. |
| 04:09.48 | drmessano | If you ask them nicely, you may be able to special order one in Black/Orange too.. |
| 04:10.19 | rob0 | You can have it in any color you like, as long as it is Orange/Black. |
| 04:10.25 | rob0 | -- H. Ford |
| 04:11.46 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: "We don't fight, we all play nice.... when you're living in Amish paradise..." |
| 04:12.00 | jaytee | hehehe |
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| 04:12.55 | jaytee | got lots of Amish around here, they're good folk. Sometimes I wonder if they don't have the right idea. Our technology is probably going to be our undoing. |
| 04:14.00 | jaytee | with genetic modification of crops the movie "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" may actually become prophecy instead of science-fiction/horror. |
| 04:14.57 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Yes it could be tomotoes... but more likely due to a superbug carried by them. |
| 04:15.26 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, ever read Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear? |
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| 04:15.50 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Thats dead-tree media isn't it? |
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| 04:16.09 | jaytee | yes, what they called "books" back in the day. |
| 04:17.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: :) |
| 04:17.16 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I miss the cretaceous, don't you? |
| 04:17.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Everybody do the dinosaur! |
| 04:17.43 | trnzmeta | go go palin!!! |
| 04:18.35 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I much prefered the Jurassic. The dinosaur races were more fun. |
| 04:18.55 | jaytee | trnzmeta, I can see Arkansas from my trailer! |
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| 04:20.43 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, this is what the book is based on and what happens when HERV manages to "express" itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endogenous_retrovirus |
| 04:21.08 | jaytee | lotsa junk in our DNA trunk |
| 04:21.28 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:21.39 | [TK]D-Fender | feels... dirty |
| 04:21.45 | drmessano | Do raptors fear fire? |
| 04:22.23 | jaytee | drmessano, that's an interesting question. Someone should ask George Lucas |
| 04:22.56 | jaytee | oh, wait, no that was Speilberg |
| 04:23.24 | BooZnatch | ask both |
| 04:23.55 | drmessano | http://www.xkcd.net/155/ |
| 04:23.56 | Carlos_PHX | Wonders why fast Western Digital hard drives would fear fire. |
| 04:24.01 | drmessano | I love that |
| 04:24.23 | orkid | sure, i was a bit surprised that there was no surefire known way for me to pay without incurring charges from financial institutions. like.. sending cheque by post |
| 04:24.24 | drmessano | "can raptors pick locks" |
| 04:24.45 | orkid | and that what normally vendors do (get charged for paypal, for example) was not being passed on to me |
| 04:25.17 | orkid | i could understand if it was not for profit |
| 04:25.30 | drmessano | So go with someone else |
| 04:25.37 | drmessano | Stick it to the man |
| 04:26.20 | BooZnatch | sticks it to the man every morning. |
| 04:26.21 | orkid | i dont swing that way ktx :P |
| 04:27.05 | subdolus | Hey guys, is it possible to create a .call file that will call a number, like a touch-base number, like behind the scenes, without it needing to be bridged to anyone else |
| 04:27.23 | drmessano | orkid: You're not the first tin foil'er we've had in here.. There is a provider out there for you.. we promise.. and they may/may not be out to get you too/either. |
| 04:27.24 | [TK]D-Fender | subdolus: thats the point of call files |
| 04:27.40 | orkid | and btw, i pay for betamax with visa, and they say outright, 50cents euro. not 3%, not 'maybe on visa, maybe not on paypal' |
| 04:27.51 | subdolus | [TK]D-Fender: the only .call file examples i can find all bridge calls to a real person |
| 04:28.19 | orkid | but whatever rant over |
| 04:28.19 | [TK]D-Fender | subdolus: Channel does your dial out, and you send it to the context, exten, prio that you want |
| 04:28.20 | orkid | tinfoil? |
| 04:28.34 | orkid | u must be confusing things |
| 04:28.36 | [TK]D-Fender | orkid: It keeps the alien mind-control beams out! |
| 04:28.44 | [TK]D-Fender | orkid: Don't let them take it! |
| 04:29.23 | orkid | i know what its a reference to. i was commenting on business practices if at all, not on mind control spying and such |
| 04:29.43 | orkid | s/if at all/if that |
| 04:29.50 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Wait until he learns what wholesale VoIP is, and varying prices for routes.. "ZOMG I paid .092455 yesterday and now it's .095267.. WTFFFFFF" |
| 04:29.51 | [TK]D-Fender | orkid: He's just saying you're paranoid and nitpicking too much. |
| 04:30.07 | drmessano | Indeed |
| 04:31.17 | Carlos_PHX | Anybody know when the voicemail app writes changed passwords back out to voicemail.conf? |
| 04:32.03 | denon | every second tuesday of the month |
| 04:32.08 | drmessano | DAMNIT |
| 04:32.21 | drmessano | I was AWAY.. I was away for a minute.. I WANTED TO MAKE THAT JOKE |
| 04:32.23 | orkid | why do u assume i dont know about routes and their varying prices? |
| 04:32.26 | orkid | lol |
| 04:32.32 | drmessano | I so had "Thursdays" ready to go |
| 04:32.34 | drmessano | Was typing |
| 04:32.37 | drmessano | But nooo |
| 04:32.40 | drmessano | EFF you denon |
| 04:32.43 | drmessano | Thats right! |
| 04:32.44 | denon | drmessano: dude, you snoose you loose |
| 04:32.46 | denon | nooze |
| 04:32.49 | denon | snooze. |
| 04:32.57 | Carlos_PHX | Bastards. |
| 04:33.10 | denon | who says it was a joke? if you change your password on tuesday, it'll write it out on tuesday ... |
| 04:33.11 | Carlos_PHX | All this time with * and I've never actually noticed when it gets changed. |
| 04:33.30 | orkid | bitter |
| 04:33.36 | orkid | techies |
| 04:33.59 | drmessano | ? |
| 04:34.03 | drmessano | random |
| 04:34.07 | drmessano | peanuts |
| 04:34.07 | drmessano | ? |
| 04:34.32 | drmessano | Sorry, suck at this game.. can I get a lifeline |
| 04:35.47 | denon | bleh, I gotta yank the keyboard on my laptop to upgrade it's ram |
| 04:36.07 | denon | Im so lazy on laptops these days |
| 04:37.00 | jaytee | wow, most laptops I've worked on have a little slot cover on the bottom held in with a small phillips screw. what suckass model do you own? |
| 04:37.19 | denon | jaytee: one slot is exposed that way |
| 04:37.24 | denon | the other under the keyboard |
| 04:37.29 | denon | and yes, it is sucky -- Dell Latitude |
| 04:37.38 | jaytee | the one under the keyboard is probably soldered to the mobo |
| 04:37.42 | denon | no |
| 04:37.47 | denon | it's a slot |
| 04:38.00 | denon | I just want to put a matched pair in to do dual channel |
| 04:38.07 | jaytee | popping the keyboard on a Dell is no big thing |
| 04:38.08 | denon | Im just too lazy to go get my tools |
| 04:38.11 | denon | yeah |
| 04:38.17 | denon | but I'm here, tools are there |
| 04:38.47 | jaytee | I could do it with a pen knife and not leave a scratch |
| 04:39.01 | denon | yeah |
| 04:39.08 | denon | swiss army knife is in the bedroom |
| 04:39.15 | denon | further away than real tools |
| 04:40.17 | denon | hmm |
| 04:40.22 | denon | steak knife on the kitchen table |
| 04:40.23 | denon | that'll do |
| 04:40.25 | denon | bbl |
| 04:40.36 | denon | disconnects |
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| 04:42.38 | Daejeo | Got SIP response 504 "Server Time-out" back from 192.168.0.1 |
| 04:42.49 | Daejeo | what could be the reason? |
| 04:43.00 | Carlos_PHX | Because that's not your server? |
| 04:43.12 | Carlos_PHX | That's usually your router...no? |
| 04:52.55 | jaytee | nite all |
| 04:53.52 | subdolus | [Oct 31 05:53:00] NOTICE[3781]: chan_sip.c:15593 handle_request_register: Registration from '"1012" <sip:1012@83.133.123.117>' failed for '203.213.94.167' - No matching peer found |
| 04:53.57 | subdolus | what does that mean? |
| 04:54.26 | Carlos_PHX | It means you don't have a peer in sip.conf that matches the name used by the device trying to register. |
| 04:56.56 | subdolus | ok, new error: |
| 04:56.58 | subdolus | [Oct 31 05:54:25] ERROR[3781]: chan_sip.c:8764 register_verify: Peer '1012' is trying to register, but not configured as host=dynamic |
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| 04:57.33 | Carlos_PHX | That's exactly what it says, you defined the IP so it doesn't need to register. |
| 04:57.45 | Carlos_PHX | It's not set as host=dynamic |
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| 05:03.14 | denon | heh, took longer to open the stupid retail plastic container than to yank the keyboard and the back trap door |
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| 05:13.02 | Daejeo | Carlos_PHX: Got SIP response 504 "Server Time-out" back from 66.147.x.x |
| 05:13.31 | Daejeo | this is my itsp |
| 05:14.08 | Daejeo | i can make a call within US |
| 05:14.35 | Daejeo | but when i dial an international number then server time out |
| 05:15.19 | Daejeo | incoming calls no problem |
| 05:15.36 | Daejeo | calling within US no problem |
| 05:15.54 | Daejeo | international call- server toime out :) |
| 05:16.01 | Daejeo | time* |
| 05:17.56 | Daejeo | am i sending some wrong parameters to my itsp? |
| 05:18.25 | prodyan`afk | brb |
| 05:20.25 | drmessano | Daejeo: Probably |
| 05:21.44 | Daejeo | how do i verify what do i need to send ? |
| 05:22.00 | Daejeo | drmessano: |
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| 05:27.57 | jero | hi |
| 05:29.58 | Carlos_PHX | Every service provider is different, so you'd have to ask them. |
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| 05:30.11 | Carlos_PHX | How do you send US calls? +1NXXNXXXXXX? |
| 05:33.54 | Daejeo | Carlos_PHX:if your provider is US -based, 1NXXNXXXXXX OK |
| 05:34.51 | drmessano | ? |
| 05:38.04 | trnzmeta | go go palin |
| 05:40.10 | Daejeo | drmessano: would u like to have a look on trunk settings? |
| 05:41.59 | drmessano | Not really.. You need to determine what your provider is looking for. Looking at your wrong settings won't help me any. |
| 05:44.15 | Daejeo | right |
| 05:44.40 | Daejeo | but still there are some standard settings |
| 05:45.15 | Daejeo | http://pastebin.ca/1241367 |
| 05:50.32 | drmessano | _011. <--- there you go |
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| 06:20.01 | prodyan | can asterisk send text messages to other applications? like i want the caller to input a number and let asterisk place the number into a textfield inside a browser? |
| 06:20.48 | prodyan | or maybe just save the number into a text file |
| 06:22.16 | Daejeo | drmessano: are you in US? |
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| 06:25.49 | prodyan | anyone? is it possible for asterisk to store a few numbers into a txt file? |
| 06:26.43 | drmessano | I am |
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| 07:09.55 | Daejeo | drmessano: can you dial 800 number now? |
| 07:13.38 | jeev | (.)(.) |
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| 08:09.04 | Rabenklaue_ | http://rafb.net/p/Ifb8PE11.html |
| 08:09.17 | Rabenklaue_ | I've got a problem starting asterisk |
| 08:09.42 | phpboy | ok |
| 08:09.58 | Rabenklaue_ | I'm using Gentoo Linux and use the 1.2.27 version of asterisk |
| 08:10.47 | Rabenklaue_ | It seems that there is something wrong corresponding the capi interface (module: fcpci => FritzCard PCI 2.1) |
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| 08:18.30 | ghostknife | We have a bunch of extensions, each office extension is setup to allow you to dial another extension by entering it's code directly. Same goes for outside routes, you just dial the number (we match an outbound route against "XXX." - which basically does: 0121234567 to dial 0121234567). Is it possible to limit this rule to certain extensions only? |
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| 08:19.56 | flohack | Hi! Is someone using the weight option for call queues? There is an open bug report for a deadlock involving the feature. Is that bug still valid (it's from 2006): http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=6196 |
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| 08:21.03 | ghostknife | We have a "workshop" with many employees, and they love making private calls on the companies' bill, and it's impossible to track who dialed what, leading to an expensive uncontrollable bill. So we want to specify a general rule for single employee extensions, and have a pin protected rule for the workshop for each workshop-employee (for the purpose of tracking). |
| 08:21.53 | orkid | cool |
| 08:21.59 | ghostknife | this way we should be able to track all call's source, and limit those who exceed a "fair" limit. |
| 08:22.00 | orkid | i guess, not for the employees i suppose |
| 08:22.45 | ghostknife | no, single employee extensions are trackable, since they are the only ones who phone from their phones. It's the "shared" phones for which each guy should get he's own route with a pin |
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| 08:22.52 | Telemac | Hello |
| 08:22.55 | ghostknife | this way the billing logs module can help us track the calls |
| 08:22.55 | orkid | oh i see |
| 08:23.13 | orkid | so put that shared phone on a different context |
| 08:23.14 | ghostknife | but I don't know how to prevent the general "open" outbound route from NOT working on the workshop extension |
| 08:23.27 | ghostknife | I have the "pin" rules, but they can still just dial the number and "bypass" this |
| 08:23.35 | ghostknife | orkid: different context? |
| 08:23.41 | orkid | put that workshop phone on its own context |
| 08:23.44 | orkid | yes.. |
| 08:24.11 | ghostknife | orkid: (<<-- new to asterisk here), what is a context? |
| 08:24.12 | orkid | so that it cant use the extensions (and patterns/etc) defined for the 'normal' extensions |
| 08:24.25 | orkid | do u know what the word means? |
| 08:24.36 | ghostknife | yes, I just don't know how to approach it |
| 08:24.41 | orkid | it's like a grouping.... |
| 08:24.45 | ghostknife | just a general piont in the right direction would help |
| 08:24.51 | orkid | a certain context the phone is running in |
| 08:24.59 | ghostknife | I understand how context would work, that's the obvious part |
| 08:25.00 | orkid | asteriskdocs.org has a very good book |
| 08:25.04 | orkid | it introduces everything |
| 08:25.18 | ghostknife | orkid: and in asterisk it's called a "context"? |
| 08:25.21 | orkid | and talks about extensions, contexts, etc |
| 08:25.45 | flohack | Is someone using the weight option for call queues? There is an open bug report for a deadlock involving the feature. Is that bug still valid (it's from 2006): http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=6196 |
| 08:25.48 | orkid | well, each channel is given a context in which is 'starts' |
| 08:26.08 | ghostknife | orkid: thanks for your help, I'm sure this should do the trick |
| 08:26.11 | orkid | (i hope i'm not spreading misinfo here) |
| 08:26.32 | orkid | i think it 'starts' but you can go to any context from that, via the extension priority lists |
| 08:26.56 | ghostknife | orkid: ah now I see, in the extension definition there is a "context=" rule. Now just to limit a route to a context |
| 08:26.57 | orkid | yeah, i'm pretty sure actually. check out that book. it's free for download. it's good too |
| 08:27.03 | orkid | no, not a route |
| 08:27.18 | orkid | you have to set up each 'channel' (ie. phone) to a context |
| 08:27.33 | orkid | you probably do already.. so just set your workshop phone to its own context... |
| 08:27.38 | ghostknife | orkid: ah |
| 08:27.49 | orkid | and then make a section in extensions.conf for it.. |
| 08:28.28 | orkid | and then, let normal extensions be dialed, and outside numbers go through the pin check |
| 08:29.12 | ghostknife | orkid: shot thanks. Book is 72% |
| 08:29.31 | orkid | you're welcome |
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| 08:33.27 | flohack | russellb: Hi! do you know if bug #6196 is still valid? It's a deadlock issue with the weight option for queues. |
| 08:34.15 | HeMan | what does agents add for queues? |
| 08:34.49 | russellb | no idea |
| 08:35.10 | flohack | russellb: :-( but thanks! |
| 08:35.16 | russellb | if it's closed, then probably not |
| 08:35.25 | Telemac | Am I right thinking that when DYNAMIC_FEATURES is enabled, applicationmap is applied but featuremap is no longer, so blindxfer cannot be tiggered with '#' ? |
| 08:35.26 | HeMan | I mean, could I just let the queue consist of "regular" connections? |
| 08:35.28 | russellb | of course, you're welcome to put up an issue on the bug tracker |
| 08:35.44 | russellb | but please build with DEBUG_THREADS, and get "core show locks" output from the CLI when the problem occurs |
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| 08:36.42 | flohack | russellb: I may put up a testbed for that and add my findings to the bugreport (which is suspended as the proposed fix is not really a fix, as it just removed the locks...) |
| 08:37.03 | russellb | ah, well please open a new bug report |
| 08:37.45 | flohack | russellb: But wouldn't that cause information loss? |
| 08:37.50 | ghostknife | orkid: for interest sake, what I want to do is mentioned as an example use for context (phrased in the "context" of "providing security") |
| 08:38.47 | wintix | hi there. i would like to set up an asterisk server as ping-gateway. the server would have a 4 digit internal number and i would like to reach it that way. after the server picks up the phone i would like to send it an ip address with dtmf tones like 192168001001 for 192.168.1.1. the server should then ping that ip and respond whether the ip is reachable or not. how would you realize that? have you any hints where to get started? |
| 08:40.18 | russellb | flohack: you can reference the old issue and we'll add a relationship |
| 08:40.34 | flohack | russellb: ack |
| 08:42.15 | orkid | ghostknife: yup i think there was something pretty close to what you needed in there as an example |
| 08:42.20 | orkid | ghostknife: have fun! |
| 08:47.42 | ghostknife | If I change a config file (specifically extensions.conf, do I even need to restart asterisk). |
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| 08:51.39 | orkid | u just need to reload it |
| 08:51.52 | orkid | so connect to the currently running asterisk using "asterisk -r" |
| 08:51.58 | orkid | or -rvvv (for lots of verbosity) |
| 08:52.03 | orkid | and type 'extensions reload' |
| 08:52.29 | orkid | u might have to reload some of your channel(s) if you changed their context(s) |
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| 09:05.11 | ghostknife | omg. asterisk never doesn't amaze me :> |
| 09:05.24 | HeMan | what does is ringinuse option in queues mean? |
| 09:05.35 | ghostknife | from the ease of installation for a basic system, up to this point it's been a true joy |
| 09:06.11 | orkid | the system is easy to undersatnd, but the internals are probably quite complex |
| 09:06.17 | orkid | then again, so are computers nowadays |
| 09:07.43 | creativx | HeMan: i think it means it wont try to call agents with active calls |
| 09:07.57 | ghostknife | it's use is very straight forward (though to rules seem intimidating at first, no matter what I've done so far I've grasped it immediately after seeing explanations for short examples) |
| 09:08.08 | creativx | HeMan: since most phones are multi-line having ringinuse=true would cause an agent in a call to get another call on line #2.. |
| 09:09.02 | HeMan | could it speed up the time it takes to start ringing after hangup when I have calls in the queue? |
| 09:09.53 | creativx | did you just read what i wrote |
| 09:11.03 | flohack | HeMan: Relevant settings are 'retry'.... |
| 09:11.26 | flohack | HeMan: and 'wrapuptime' |
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| 09:36.00 | pluesch0r | good morning. i'm using asterisk in debian stable (version 1.2) with sip. i'd like to be able to receive fax messages as well via sip .. and send them as pdf to an email adress; is that possible with asterisk in that version? |
| 09:36.03 | HeMan | can I have the queue create a ring tone to the caller? |
| 09:36.11 | HeMan | or is it just music? |
| 09:36.14 | pluesch0r | if so .. can anybody point me to a tutorial that explains how to do this? |
| 09:36.40 | HeMan | ah! 'r'! |
| 09:42.26 | [gnubie] | hello all.. |
| 09:43.56 | [gnubie] | is it there such thing as asking the "username" first then call the Authenticate() before doing anything in asterisk? |
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| 09:46.20 | [gnubie] | pluesch0r: http://www.the-asterisk-book.com/unstable/faxserver.html |
| 09:47.10 | pluesch0r | [gnubie]: thank you |
| 09:47.29 | [gnubie] | pluesch0r: you're welcome.. |
| 09:47.40 | HeMan | interresting, I'm just troubleshooting our fax solution... |
| 09:47.48 | ghostknife | what's a sound file name for the "denied" or "f-off" or "no access" or something? or even just the "you're call cannot be completed as dialed". Instead of just hanging up, I want to give them a sort of indication that they're doing something wrong |
| 09:47.51 | HeMan | the PDF's get zero size... |
| 09:48.56 | pluesch0r | HeMan: what approach are you using? hylafax? |
| 09:49.05 | HeMan | pluesch0r: yepp! |
| 09:49.07 | HeMan | and iaxmodem |
| 09:49.19 | HeMan | and it was working some days ago... |
| 09:49.50 | pluesch0r | hm .. i don't even know how to test the setup. we don't have a legacy fax. :) |
| 09:49.59 | pluesch0r | all i want to do is being able to receive it. |
| 09:50.26 | [gnubie] | ghostknife: pbx-invalid ? |
| 09:50.59 | HeMan | pluesch0r: sounds like our setup |
| 09:51.10 | flohack | Concerning the music on hold: Is there a way to make it loop seamlessly? |
| 09:51.29 | HeMan | pluesch0r: we have no outgoing fax and no regular fax to test it with. |
| 09:52.24 | pluesch0r | HeMan: great. |
| 09:52.31 | pluesch0r | HeMan: and you're using inbound sip? |
| 09:52.38 | HeMan | pluesch0r: yepp! |
| 09:52.46 | pluesch0r | and it's not working? |
| 09:52.48 | pluesch0r | ;) |
| 09:53.11 | HeMan | pluesch0r: it was working perfectly since we started using it last year |
| 09:53.39 | HeMan | and the faxes get delivered to our server, but the conversion from tiff to pdf fails for some odd reason |
| 09:55.00 | pluesch0r | HeMan: hrm. |
| 09:55.15 | pluesch0r | HeMan: what tutorial did you use to set this up? |
| 09:55.31 | HeMan | don't remember |
| 09:56.01 | Nunners | Day three - and it's almost working - for those who have helped over the last couple of days.... just got to get CallerId working! |
| 09:56.18 | Nunners | Does anyone know of the changes required for a UK pstn line to show callerid? |
| 09:56.25 | pluesch0r | HeMan: okay. |
| 09:56.32 | pluesch0r | HeMan: what version of asterisk are you running? |
| 09:56.48 | HeMan | 1.4.18 |
| 09:56.56 | pluesch0r | okay, great. :) |
| 09:57.03 | HeMan | we have been running it since 1.4.9 i think |
| 09:57.07 | pluesch0r | so i should be able to get this to work as well. |
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| 09:57.21 | HeMan | what you must ensure is tha you use ulaw or alaw encoding |
| 09:57.27 | pluesch0r | okay |
| 09:57.37 | HeMan | gsm usually has problems with faxes |
| 09:57.56 | [gnubie] | based on this => http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+user+authentication says the author knows 4 ways to authenticate user.. i know password can be called using the Authenticate() but i don't know what to call (an application) to ask the caller for a username before calling the Authenticate().. anybody knows? |
| 09:59.33 | [gnubie] | something like logging in to a system wherein you are being asked to key-in your username and password |
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| 10:00.57 | [gnubie] | so in my case, i am looking for a way to automatically ask the caller with his/her username and password before it moves to the next process.. anyone? |
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| 10:07.16 | Daejeo | SheMan |
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| 10:09.00 | kaldemar | Nunners: ask your telco |
| 10:09.21 | ghostknife | erm, how can I do a Goto(context,"CONCAT ${SOMEVAR} and ${SOMEOTHERVAR}",1) ?? |
| 10:10.10 | HeMan | ghostknife: can't you set a temporary variable? |
| 10:10.37 | ghostknife | HeMan: I should be able to. How would I do that? |
| 10:10.48 | kaldemar | ghostknife: Goto(context,${VAR1}${VAR2},1) |
| 10:11.00 | ghostknife | kaldemar: hmmm. I did that, so my problem is something else |
| 10:11.22 | ghostknife | kaldemar: does that work with static aswell. like Goto(context,99${VAR},1) ?? |
| 10:11.30 | ghostknife | err. constant, not static |
| 10:11.35 | kaldemar | yes |
| 10:12.19 | kaldemar | you don't need to do anything specific to concatenate. |
| 10:12.57 | ghostknife | ah, I see now. I forgot to prefix my pattern with _ :/ |
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| 10:14.55 | ghostknife | yay. it's working. My public endpoint tracking-by-employee-number is working :> |
| 10:20.56 | creativx | always feels good when things work huh |
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| 10:25.14 | ghostknife | well, it's not ideal, someone can dial redial to see someone else's pin |
| 10:25.42 | ghostknife | though it's unlikely that they'll figure it out, it would be better if done by voice prompt. though this stupid box's pinsets don't work |
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| 10:44.29 | HeMan | hmm, hylafax converts the tiff's to pdf but it doesn't include the converted pdf |
| 10:44.51 | joobie | guys what is zaptel for? |
| 10:45.13 | joobie | .. and zaptel is now replaced by dahdi ya? |
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| 10:50.02 | aigorb | hi, i've a patton 4112 fxo gateway, i can put outgoing calls via fxo port, but when i got an incoming call the asterisk box (1.4.22) reject the call with "handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate user", i've set insecure=port,invite, but asterisk seems to ignore it. any help thks ? |
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| 11:06.42 | aigorb | hi, i've a patton 4112 fxo gateway, i can put outgoing calls via fxo port, but when i got an incoming call the asterisk box (1.4.22) reject the call with "handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate user", i've set insecure=port,invite, but asterisk seems to ignore it. any help thks ? |
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| 11:11.34 | Zeeek | Good Morning Asterisk™ |
| 11:22.11 | aigorb | hi, i've a patton 4112 fxo gateway, i can put outgoing calls via fxo port, but when i got an incoming call the asterisk box (1.4.22) reject the call with "handle_request_invite: Failed to authenticate user", i've set insecure=port,invite, but asterisk seems to ignore it. any help thks ? |
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| 11:37.55 | mort_gib | Hey Nunners are you getting there?? |
| 11:38.17 | Nunners | Almost.... got all incoming working... just having problems with outgoing now.... it's working really well though! |
| 11:38.44 | mort_gib | Glad to hear that! |
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| 11:38.56 | mort_gib | What's your incoming problem?? |
| 11:39.05 | mort_gib | -sorry Outgoing?? |
| 11:39.09 | Nunners | I was about to say! |
| 11:39.45 | Nunners | Basically when you try and call out all you get is the engaged tone - and it doesn't appear to try even dial. I'm wondering if I've got the dial tone set wrongly? |
| 11:40.20 | mort_gib | 1. Context 2. check your Dial() |
| 11:40.52 | mort_gib | And you Might just want to add an "invalid extension" handler |
| 11:41.09 | Nunners | Context I think is correct... and the Dial, I'm using a macro that asterisk gui created... |
| 11:41.25 | mort_gib | Arrgh, GUI |
| 11:41.35 | mort_gib | vi is your friend |
| 11:41.49 | Nunners | I've been told that, only after I started using it on Wednesday! |
| 11:42.00 | Nunners | It seems to have done most of the stuff, this literally is the last problem. |
| 11:42.07 | mort_gib | LOL, And as the FIRST thing in here! |
| 11:42.38 | Nunners | Would you mind taking a look at the config on pastebin? |
| 11:42.46 | mort_gib | OK, forget the Macro, for no, comment it out and do a simple _X.,n,Dial( statement |
| 11:43.04 | Nunners | good idea! |
| 11:43.08 | mort_gib | No not at all |
| 11:43.18 | mort_gib | What card are you using??? |
| 11:43.49 | Nunners | TDM410 |
| 11:43.55 | mort_gib | , like include zaptel and zapata if you ended up using zaptel rather than DAHDI or whatever they call it now! |
| 11:44.43 | Nunners | I think I've ended up with zapata, but asterisk still has the dahdi function calls! |
| 11:46.03 | mort_gib | Ok, pastebin it |
| 11:47.19 | Nunners | I'm just trying it without the macro... - but thanks! |
| 11:47.29 | mort_gib | Noprob |
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| 11:49.32 | Nunners | It's weird... |
| 11:49.59 | Nunners | The CLI says:.... Starting simple switch on 'Zap/3-1', then when the tones start dialing Hungup 'Zap/3-1' |
| 11:50.11 | Nunners | It doesn't even say no context or anything |
| 11:50.58 | mort_gib | It would say something like invalid extension but that does not seem to be the problem |
| 11:51.09 | mort_gib | pastebin if you will |
| 11:51.20 | Nunners | Which bit? Extensions.conf? |
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| 11:53.16 | Nunners | extensions.conf - relevant bits... http://pastebin.com/d311274ba |
| 11:53.52 | Nunners | zapata.conf - http://pastebin.com/d565f6790 - but I think this is replaced by users.conf, *gui for you! |
| 11:54.44 | Nunners | users.conf http://pastebin.com/d256d91ad - again relevant bits.... |
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| 11:56.10 | Nunners | any thoughts? |
| 11:57.00 | mort_gib | Looks like you include both your FXS and FXO in trunk_1 |
| 11:57.13 | mort_gib | That would create strange results |
| 11:57.15 | riddlebox | Nunners, whats the problem? |
| 11:57.23 | Nunners | can't make outgoing calls |
| 11:57.37 | riddlebox | you are using the gui right? |
| 11:57.37 | mort_gib | http://pastebin.com/d256d91ad [trunk_1] |
| 11:58.03 | Nunners | yes |
| 11:58.09 | Nunners | well - sort of/was.... |
| 12:00.08 | Nunners | mortgib: what did you mean by including both fxs & fxo in trunk_1? |
| 12:00.14 | riddlebox | Nunners, I need to see the cli of a call failing |
| 12:00.42 | mort_gib | [trunk_1] zapchan = 1,2 |
| 12:00.46 | Nunners | The CLI says:.... "Starting simple switch on 'Zap/3-1'", then when the tones start dialing "Hungup 'Zap/3-1'" |
| 12:00.51 | mort_gib | Not sure but it looks wrong |
| 12:00.59 | Nunners | Yeah that's right.... there are two fxo and two fxs modules... |
| 12:01.00 | riddlebox | mort_gib, that just says there are two zap channels in trunk 1 |
| 12:01.05 | riddlebox | both are fxs |
| 12:01.21 | Nunners | two fxo (1,2) are the two incoming lines, and two fxo (3,4) are phones. |
| 12:01.44 | Daejeo | Thank you for using our phone validation system Good bye |
| 12:01.52 | riddlebox | Nunners, pastebin zapata.conf, or zapata-gui.conf |
| 12:02.00 | riddlebox | whatever it is |
| 12:02.06 | Nunners | For those who knwo the Siemens Gigaset - I've got it setup that the phoneline is plugged into channel 3, and 4 is currently redudant soon to be used for fax! |
| 12:02.17 | riddlebox | you do not have the zap/3 and zap/4 setup for a context |
| 12:02.44 | riddlebox | what is your context for outgoing calls? |
| 12:03.15 | Nunners | zapata.conf http://pastebin.com/d50308831 ../zaptel.conf http://pastebin.com/d74b37c2 |
| 12:03.51 | Nunners | [DLPN_Nursery] - which then includes [CallingRule_Main] |
| 12:03.56 | Nunners | users.conf http://pastebin.com/d256d91ad - again relevant bits.... |
| 12:04.15 | Nunners | in users.conf see [201] |
| 12:04.22 | riddlebox | Nunners, see your context for zap/3 and zap/4 is phones, what does that context do in extensions.conf? |
| 12:05.02 | Nunners | Good question.... nothing! |
| 12:05.37 | riddlebox | change the context in zapata.conf to something that goes somewhere and reload and it will work |
| 12:05.57 | Nunners | Yeah I'm with you.... *gui hasn't picked it up at all... |
| 12:06.26 | tzafrir_laptop | Nunners, the asterisk gui writes users.conf |
| 12:06.43 | Nunners | *gui I thought had created 201 for that channel 3.... |
| 12:07.08 | riddlebox | Nunners, what he is saying is that you have to have your system setup |
| 12:07.12 | tzafrir_laptop | The format of zapata.conf is insane for automatic writing anyway |
| 12:07.16 | riddlebox | like have all zap channels defined and stuff |
| 12:08.00 | Nunners | So if I put the context for channel 3 as DLPN_Nursery, that should work! |
| 12:08.13 | tzafrir_laptop | Nunners, in fact, the gui makes sure that all the channels are defined in zapata.conf and then goes on to override the definitions in users.conf |
| 12:08.36 | tzafrir_laptop | grep zapchan /etc/asterisk/users.conf |
| 12:08.38 | Nunners | is that therefore a bug? |
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| 12:09.18 | tzafrir_laptop | it's something you should be aware of when manually editing configuration created by that GUI |
| 12:09.40 | Nunners | But I can't see that zapata.conf was ever edited by the gui? |
| 12:09.43 | riddlebox | Nunners, nope not a bug, it would be really hard for the asterisk-gui to determine what card you have and what you want to do with it before you know what you want to do with it |
| 12:10.14 | Nunners | Should it not therefore take the ports/contexts from within zapata.conf and show them in teh gui? |
| 12:10.27 | tzafrir_laptop | actually the gui does that using ztscan (earlier versions) or zapscan (later versions) |
| 12:10.47 | riddlebox | you would think it would work but I am not sure why it doesnt |
| 12:10.56 | riddlebox | that is a question for bkruse |
| 12:11.09 | tzafrir_laptop | the output of zapscan is in a format of an asterisk config file so the configuration reader of asterisk coul read it |
| 12:11.12 | Nunners | I can see it picked up the channels, but did it use the correct contexts |
| 12:11.22 | tzafrir_laptop | And thus the information would be available for the gui |
| 12:11.34 | riddlebox | Nunners, correct I saw that too on my testing machine |
| 12:12.00 | riddlebox | tzafrir_laptop, thats one reason why I only use the gui on a testing machine, and not on my actual server |
| 12:12.21 | riddlebox | there are things the gui doesnt allow, like using * or # in voicemenus |
| 12:12.26 | Nunners | And i'm trying to do all this on a live server, with a nice old telephone for backup! |
| 12:12.51 | mort_gib | Nunners: You might want to have a sandbox.... |
| 12:12.59 | Nunners | here we go..... trying now! |
| 12:13.31 | Nunners | Mmm... sort of success.... |
| 12:14.03 | riddlebox | Nunners, pastebin extensions.conf for me, the whole file |
| 12:14.04 | Nunners | It tried now dialing another extension and not the outside line.... typo me thinks... |
| 12:14.41 | [gnubie] | is it there such thing as asking the "username" first then call the Authenticate() before doing anything in asterisk dialplan? |
| 12:14.59 | Nunners | two secs, I'll need to vnc onto the machine, it's that big! |
| 12:15.25 | Nunners | ssh can only cope with small files! |
| 12:15.25 | riddlebox | [gnubie], how are you going to enter letters over a phone |
| 12:16.12 | MaliutaLap | ssh can only cope with small files? |
| 12:16.14 | [gnubie] | riddlebox: doesn't matter if there is no alpha.. digits are good for a start |
| 12:16.35 | MaliutaLap | thinks someone is on more opiates than he is |
| 12:16.36 | Nunners | Sorry, I should have said copying large files using ssh is difficult |
| 12:16.43 | riddlebox | [gnubie], so you would enter 1234 then 5678, why not use authenticate and enter 12345678 |
| 12:16.46 | [gnubie] | riddlebox: but, ip phones can send alphas iirc |
| 12:16.54 | mort_gib | MaliutaLap: says who?? |
| 12:17.00 | mort_gib | sftp usr@machine |
| 12:17.01 | MaliutaLap | scp -C user@host:<file> <dest> |
| 12:17.08 | MaliutaLap | mort_gib: Nunners |
| 12:17.12 | [gnubie] | riddlebox: making at least 8 digits probably |
| 12:17.24 | mort_gib | I just moved a 10GB file to my server... |
| 12:17.26 | riddlebox | mort_gib, I use ssh -X gedit if I really need |
| 12:17.44 | MaliutaLap | ssh -e vim <file> |
| 12:17.47 | mort_gib | I use vi |
| 12:17.51 | mort_gib | :-) |
| 12:17.54 | riddlebox | MaliutaLap, that will work too |
| 12:18.00 | MaliutaLap | or just ssh in and vim from a shell |
| 12:18.02 | Nunners | extensinos.conf http://pastebin.com/d17337ab0 |
| 12:18.05 | riddlebox | when I in cli its nano |
| 12:18.10 | mort_gib | exactly |
| 12:18.16 | Nunners | I'm on a windows box, using putty to ssh to linux-asterisk server |
| 12:18.17 | yang | rsync |
| 12:18.18 | MaliutaLap | nano is for weaklings |
| 12:18.27 | [gnubie] | something like logging in to a system wherein you are being asked to key-in your username and password |
| 12:18.31 | MaliutaLap | Nunners: there is a windows scp binary |
| 12:18.35 | [gnubie] | so in my case, i am looking for a way to automatically ask the caller with his/her username and password before it moves to the next process.. anyone? |
| 12:18.41 | Nunners | I know... but my laptop can't cope with much! |
| 12:18.47 | tzafrir_laptop | riddlebox, that limitation of '#' and '*' in the menu, isn't it simple to patch? |
| 12:18.55 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there a pending bug for it? |
| 12:18.58 | yang | scp to move a single file rsync to mirror multiple |
| 12:19.06 | Nunners | Also, I've got webmin installed, so that make it slightly easier using the file manager |
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| 12:19.12 | MaliutaLap | Nunners: if it runs putty the scp from the putty suite is fine |
| 12:19.25 | MaliutaLap | Nunners: I can ctcp you the binary off of my usb stick |
| 12:19.43 | riddlebox | tzafrir_laptop, I have supplied them a patch but they said they didnt like the idea |
| 12:19.48 | tzafrir_laptop | riddlebox, vim sftp://remotehost/path/to/file |
| 12:20.20 | riddlebox | Nunners, DLPN_Nursery => use that one |
| 12:20.24 | yang | hi tzafrir |
| 12:20.49 | riddlebox | tzafrir_laptop, I need to get used to using sftp, and scp because I am using ubuntu-server now no gui |
| 12:20.57 | tzafrir_laptop | Preferebly after you run 'ssh remotehost' to create an ssh connection there... |
| 12:21.06 | Nunners | zapata.conf for Group 1, channel=3-4 context=DLPN_Nursery - done - still same problem |
| 12:21.08 | tzafrir_laptop | yang, hi |
| 12:21.40 | riddlebox | Nunners, pastebin, users.conf |
| 12:21.51 | tzafrir_laptop | riddlebox, likewise all gnome and kde editors can edit over ssh. But then again, none of them is a match to vim |
| 12:22.13 | riddlebox | tzafrir_laptop, true |
| 12:22.36 | HeMan | can I have macros in queues.conf? |
| 12:22.58 | MaliutaLap | not that I am aware of |
| 12:23.33 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Macros are dialplan. Dialplan is extensions.conf. Not queues.conf |
| 12:23.44 | [gnubie] | there are SayAlpha(), SayDigits(), SayNumber(); etc.. but, is there such thing as SayAlphaNumeric() or similar? |
| 12:23.44 | HeMan | ok |
| 12:23.58 | Nunners | users.conf http://pastebin.com/d6f13cb1a |
| 12:26.03 | MaliutaLap | [gnubie]: you looked at festival? |
| 12:26.23 | riddlebox | Nunners, is 210 work? |
| 12:26.48 | Nunners | 210 is in theory an office sip phone, but is my laptop at the mo... |
| 12:27.02 | riddlebox | Nunners, can you make calls out of it |
| 12:27.53 | Nunners | I can call, but it doesn't go anywhere I don't think |
| 12:28.11 | Nunners | Actually, weirdly, it calls channel 3 |
| 12:28.19 | [gnubie] | Maliuta: not yet |
| 12:28.32 | Nunners | that's odd... very odd |
| 12:29.00 | riddlebox | you need to look into why its calling channel 3 fix that |
| 12:29.17 | Nunners | yeah... just doing that! |
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| 12:29.37 | mort_gib | What about trying to call one ZAP channel rather than a trunk?? |
| 12:30.53 | HeMan | Isn't it possible to make a phone ring directly the phone has signaled to asterisk that it's not busy? |
| 12:32.13 | riddlebox | Nunners, I gotta head to work |
| 12:32.15 | riddlebox | good luck |
| 12:32.26 | Nunners | Thanks riddlebox - I think I've got it working now anyway! |
| 12:32.36 | Nunners | just make an outgoing call from 3, using 1 to my mobile! |
| 12:32.38 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: No, three is no way to speed up your queue distribution. |
| 12:32.46 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: This is a very dead end |
| 12:33.30 | HeMan | can I skip the queues and do that in any other way? |
| 12:34.03 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Create a monitoring app that uses AMI to watch status and do forced redirects, etc. |
| 12:34.20 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Very complex and if things go wrong it'll get really messy |
| 12:34.33 | HeMan | heh, just guessed that |
| 12:34.57 | Nunners | Can someone explain to me how to reference the zap groups correctly? I've got it working singularly outbound, i.e. selecting a channel, but not a group of channels |
| 12:35.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: G1 / g1 |
| 12:36.04 | HeMan | the problem we have is that sometimes my colleges are not by the phone |
| 12:36.06 | Nunners | that's what I thought, but for some reason, when I insert the variable ${trunk_1} (which = Zap/g1) it tries dialing extensions Zap/4-1 |
| 12:37.02 | HeMan | I guess we could use agents but that feels like some overhead if you just need to take a leak |
| 12:37.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: One is ASCENDING order, the other DESCENDING |
| 12:38.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: "g" vs "G" |
| 12:38.40 | Nunners | [TK]: But if Zap/g1 or G1 is defined as channels 1&2, why is it calling 4!???! |
| 12:39.26 | Nunners | Sorry.... I'm getting extremely mixed up... it should be g2 not g1.... I've been doing this for toooooo long |
| 12:42.38 | HeMan | could I pick up a call from the queue without leting the phone ring? |
| 12:45.06 | Nunners | One last question folks... if Channels 1&2 are defined in a group, and two outgoing calls are made simultaneously, does * select the 2nd line for the second call? I'm getting an engaged tone |
| 12:45.08 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: No, and as I said you are running around after a dead end |
| 12:45.33 | phpboy | eish |
| 12:45.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: Go watch in CLI. "tone" says nothing to us. |
| 12:45.45 | HeMan | but is no one asking for this functionality? |
| 12:45.52 | Nunners | [TK} it says congestion |
| 12:45.57 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Very possibly not. |
| 12:46.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: thats a status, but I don't trust what yo think its doing |
| 12:46.27 | phpboy | I've got a beeg problem, here's my setup... 2 x Digium Quad E1 cards, zaptel drivers, 2 E1s per card, 2 telco's (one on each card) and the lines are going up and down constantly. Why would this be? |
| 12:46.31 | HeMan | sounds really odd since it was the first we noticed we missed from our panasonic pbx |
| 12:46.36 | phpboy | I don't have much debuging info :( |
| 12:47.11 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Don't expect * to be able to do everything you could on some other proprietary PBX. |
| 12:47.15 | Nunners | [TK] actually looking at it, it's trying to dial 3 again... which will be engaged |
| 12:47.28 | HeMan | how does people do when they have many incoming calls and only one that answers the phone? |
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| 12:47.48 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Queues or voicemail. |
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| 12:49.10 | HeMan | and with the queue we need to wait for the timeout before we could answer the phone? |
| 12:49.58 | HeMan | i tried to lower the timeout to 1 but then we needed to answer the phone withing 1 sec after the signal |
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| 12:50.42 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: then that is clearly not the time to change |
| 12:51.11 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: timeout defines how long an agents phone will ring for. |
| 12:51.24 | HeMan | yes |
| 12:51.44 | phpboy | What are the most common reasons for my zaptel drivers to be doing this? |
| 12:51.58 | HeMan | and it also defines how long it takes before a phone starts to ring after I hangup |
| 12:52.02 | [TK]D-Fender | phpboy: Go look at system load, IRQ sharing, tec |
| 12:52.13 | [TK]D-Fender | HeNo, it doesn't |
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| 12:53.00 | HeMan | [TK]D-Fender: what defines that then? |
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| 12:54.04 | evangelion | hello! |
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| 12:54.47 | shido6 | ~shido6 |
| 12:54.47 | jbot | rumour has it, shido6 is the VoIP Architect at NuFone |
| 12:54.54 | HeMan | where can I find documentation on all parameters for queues? |
| 12:54.55 | shido6 | oh lord |
| 12:54.56 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Go read the sample config. |
| 12:55.11 | HeMan | i've done that and tested alot |
| 12:55.23 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Go read it again. |
| 12:56.26 | evangelion | what if you register to a sip proxy twice ( eg. you have distintic number with a sip provider)? how does asterisk choose the "correct" peer? |
| 12:56.30 | HeMan | when I lower timeout it starts ringin earlier, if I increase timeout it starts ringing later |
| 12:57.13 | HeMan | how can it not define when it starts to ring then? |
| 12:57.22 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: There are other settings that affect the timing of call distribution. |
| 12:57.26 | evangelion | HeMan: set your timeout in the middle! |
| 12:57.52 | HeMan | evangelion: i want it to be 0 |
| 12:57.59 | evangelion | what if you register to a sip proxy twice ( eg. you have two distintic numbers with a sip provider)? how does asterisk choose the "correct" peer? |
| 12:58.28 | Nunners | Can someone suggest what could be causing congestion, when there is a line free on a trunk group? |
| 12:58.57 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: What you want is not possible with * queues currently. You are going to run around in circles on this and not get one step further forward. It is a dead end. |
| 12:59.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: Again that "trusting your configs are at all right" factor looms. |
| 12:59.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: PASTEBIN whats happening and the configs to back it |
| 13:00.56 | HeMan | but the queue is not important, what we need is the phone to start ringing when we hang up if we have another call comming in |
| 13:00.58 | Zeeek | [TK]D-Fender a hearty good morning to you |
| 13:01.40 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: then you're going to have to do MAJOR coding yourself to invent something similar to the queue app etc that will monitor things the way you like. |
| 13:01.48 | jasonwoot | wrapuptime=30 |
| 13:01.53 | phpboy | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/m24a365b4 <---- does that look fine to you? |
| 13:01.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Zeeek: mornin' |
| 13:02.22 | [TK]D-Fender | 177: 27125 102167032 0 10115 0 0 57629781 121477 IO-APIC-level aacraid, wct4xxp <- EW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:02.29 | Zeeek | heh |
| 13:02.35 | phpboy | :(, Did i do something silly? |
| 13:02.52 | [TK]D-Fender | phpboy: Sharing interrupts with a RAID CONTROLLER?! |
| 13:02.58 | phpboy | :( |
| 13:03.06 | [TK]D-Fender | phpboy: Put. Down. The. Crack. Pipe. (c) JerJer |
| 13:03.10 | joobie | hmm.. for an * server that's being NAT to accept SIP calls, what ports are required to be forwarded? |
| 13:03.19 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipnat |
| 13:03.19 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 13:03.22 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^ joobie |
| 13:03.26 | phpboy | [TK]D-Fender: sorry :( So should I shutdown, go into BIOS and move it? |
| 13:03.33 | evangelion | what if you register to a sip proxy twice ( eg. you have two distintic numbers with a sip provider)? how does asterisk choose the "correct" peer? |
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| 13:03.51 | phpboy | [TK]D-Fender: also, would this effect both cards? (I personally doubt) |
| 13:03.52 | [TK]D-Fender | phpboy: When I tell you something is bad, do you really have to ask if I think you should change it? |
| 13:04.18 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: Everything depends on how the call comes in. |
| 13:04.41 | joobie | thanks Fender |
| 13:05.10 | evangelion | [TK]D-Fender: what do you mean? |
| 13:05.57 | phpboy | [TK]D-Fender: you are too kind with your help. Would this effect both cards though? |
| 13:06.13 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: The statement doesn't leave a lot of room for misinterpretation. Are the calls coming in authed? What exten do they dial? Will you haev a choice? Who knows! |
| 13:06.26 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: go TRY, and look at what happens, and try to deal with it. |
| 13:07.04 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: You don't control what they do and may not be able to try to pin a call the the account that it was related to until it hits the dialplan |
| 13:07.29 | [TK]D-Fender | phpboy: Timing is sync'd across cards so yes, I can fully believe it'd destabilize both |
| 13:07.47 | Katty | morning |
| 13:07.47 | joobie | Fender that first link is pretty clean cut - thanks. |
| 13:08.30 | viraptor | does anyone know what can be the reason that a channel hasn't got $CHANNEL{audionativeformat} set to anything? (or any other audio* variables for that matter) |
| 13:08.41 | phpboy | [TK]D-Fender: Thank you so very much for your help :D |
| 13:08.41 | evangelion | [TK]D-Fender: this is a part of my sip.conf http://rafb.net/p/lq2Mnn43.html |
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| 13:09.33 | evangelion | [TK]D-Fender: and this is part of my dialplan exten => _peerOf-0.,1,Macro(placeCallToCustomers,${accountCallString}) |
| 13:09.54 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: just look at the CALL |
| 13:10.58 | evangelion | [TK]D-Fender: they dial the correct extension ( the one specified with register ) |
| 13:11.54 | evangelion | [TK]D-Fender: so i *think* asterisk should lookup the proper peer from sip.conf |
| 13:12.04 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: Then thats what you've got. Forget your "SetVar" in there and you're going to have to implement that in the dialplan itself since their are distinguishable at that point |
| 13:12.27 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: No, it isn't. "insecure=port,invite" <---- no user to match |
| 13:12.30 | Katty | is it going to be a lovely day? |
| 13:12.45 | coppice | it wasn't |
| 13:12.48 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: It'll hit the first or last (forget which) and thats the end of it. Not auth'd |
| 13:12.50 | mort_gib | Katty: NOT where I am! |
| 13:12.57 | Katty | mort_gib: oh? where is that so i can avoid it? |
| 13:13.03 | [TK]D-Fender | EARTH |
| 13:13.12 | mort_gib | Gibraltar/Spain/Orbit |
| 13:13.12 | Nunners | [tk] sorry was having some lunch.... |
| 13:13.13 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: don't be silly. |
| 13:13.26 | Katty | mort_gib: oh? why are you denied a happy day? |
| 13:13.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Silly Terran! |
| 13:13.36 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: ergo, happy. |
| 13:13.36 | mort_gib | TK is not having a nice day I think :-) |
| 13:13.43 | Katty | aww |
| 13:13.47 | Katty | does fender need a hug? |
| 13:13.53 | Katty | a new 16th centry sword? |
| 13:13.54 | mort_gib | he might |
| 13:13.56 | jasonwoot | happy halloween usa |
| 13:13.57 | Nunners | [TK] config files: http://pastebin.com/d5ad0e067 CLI: http://pastebin.com/d66b01cfa |
| 13:14.02 | Katty | you too jasonwoot!! |
| 13:14.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Whee!!! New pointy! |
| 13:14.04 | Katty | hugs jasonwoot |
| 13:14.11 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i knew that'd perk you right up! |
| 13:14.13 | Katty | hugs [TK]D-Fender |
| 13:14.54 | mort_gib | Katty: Rain/Storm cold, and stuck doing my accounts! |
| 13:15.11 | Katty | mort_gib: meep :< but rain sounds pretty, yes? |
| 13:15.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: And go prove that the lines are free |
| 13:15.51 | evangelion | [TK]D-Fender: then i have authenticate a peer/call to play with SetVar, right? |
| 13:15.53 | mort_gib | Uhm, like terrential/Tropical stuff |
| 13:16.02 | [TK]D-Fender | evangelion: Clearly |
| 13:16.21 | Nunners | There are two pstn lines, one of which is brand new, works, and no-one has either the number or access to it |
| 13:16.23 | evangelion | [TK]D-Fender: thank you so much |
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| 13:16.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: Tells me nothing. |
| 13:17.02 | Nunners | [TK] How can I prove it then? |
| 13:17.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: * channel dumps |
| 13:17.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Nunners: "zap show channel 1" , "zap show channel 2", "core show channels concise" |
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| 13:20.06 | Nunners | [TK] does the hookstate make the difference? as for some reason the second line, even though it's not in use, says off hook |
| 13:20.14 | Nunners | sorry on hook.... |
| 13:20.17 | Nunners | now I'm confused... |
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| 13:21.19 | Katty | hugs anonymouz666 |
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| 13:21.24 | anonymouz666 | Katty!!! |
| 13:21.35 | Katty | good morning sunshine! |
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| 13:24.08 | anonymouz666 | Katty: tomorrow is the day I'll ride my trail bike |
| 13:24.10 | anonymouz666 | :D |
| 13:24.16 | Katty | oh? |
| 13:24.21 | Katty | you're a biker? |
| 13:24.30 | Katty | not to be confused with a motorcycler. |
| 13:24.35 | Nunners | I think the problem is down to the hookstate, but not sure how to get round it? |
| 13:25.00 | anonymouz666 | Katty: trail motorcycler? |
| 13:25.01 | anonymouz666 | :D |
| 13:25.11 | Katty | heh ;) |
| 13:25.24 | anonymouz666 | even if it's raining! |
| 13:25.31 | Katty | such dedication!! |
| 13:25.34 | Katty | please don't get sick :> |
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| 13:25.42 | Katty | have fun!! :> |
| 13:25.55 | Katty | lmadsen: YOU! |
| 13:26.05 | lmadsen | hides |
| 13:26.13 | Katty | :< |
| 13:26.20 | lmadsen | you scared me |
| 13:26.21 | Katty | i was just happy to see you )_= |
| 13:26.26 | lmadsen | un-hides |
| 13:26.29 | lmadsen | Katty: HI! |
| 13:26.31 | Katty | :> |
| 13:26.34 | Katty | HAI! |
| 13:26.44 | lmadsen | how goes this fine FRIDAY MORNING?! |
| 13:26.51 | lmadsen | on this most glorious of days |
| 13:26.58 | Katty | well i'm really a smidgen depressed |
| 13:26.59 | lmadsen | tonight is the reckoning! |
| 13:27.08 | Katty | but trying very hard to Get Over It and be cheery. |
| 13:27.12 | lmadsen | Katty: that is sad to hear... this seems to be a theme the last 3 days |
| 13:27.22 | Katty | nods sadly. |
| 13:27.27 | lmadsen | Katty: you know what works for me? Saying, "FUCK IT" |
| 13:27.50 | Katty | yeah i have a problem with not caring. |
| 13:27.55 | Katty | i'm not sure how to not care :/ |
| 13:27.58 | lmadsen | I have a problem with caring too much |
| 13:28.04 | lmadsen | ya... I hear that |
| 13:28.08 | lmadsen | I've learned though |
| 13:28.23 | Katty | a co-worker and i walked to the park across from our company yesterday afternoon |
| 13:28.32 | lmadsen | you have to in order to survive. Start looking out for number one, and not everyone else. Let people solve their own problems! |
| 13:28.35 | Katty | and spent an hour speaking in loud voices, with a stick |
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| 13:28.53 | Zeeek | {{{{Katty}}}} |
| 13:28.59 | Katty | hugs Zeeek |
| 13:29.15 | Zeeek | [lmadsen] |
| 13:29.29 | Katty | context=lmadsen |
| 13:29.53 | lmadsen | Katty: lol |
| 13:30.05 | lmadsen | host=awesome |
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| 13:30.14 | Katty | the christmas music is making me feel better. |
| 13:30.15 | Zeeek | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.24 | Katty | hehe |
| 13:30.33 | Zeeek | insecure=What Me Worry?™ |
| 13:30.46 | lmadsen | exten => 911/lmadsen,1,Goto(912,1) |
| 13:31.30 | Zeeek | exten => 411/Katty,1,Paly("youhavejustwon20000000000") |
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| 13:31.43 | Zeeek | OMG |
| 13:32.05 | Zeeek | I nearly evoked it |
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| 13:33.05 | Katty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_OcQOj4iG4 <- Zeeek |
| 13:34.10 | Katty | i should take a picture of my desk. |
| 13:34.23 | lmadsen | Katty: omg I should take a picture of MY desk! |
| 13:34.31 | Katty | lmadsen: then we could TRADE! |
| 13:34.37 | Katty | lmadsen: like on VALENTINES DAY! |
| 13:34.42 | lmadsen | like hockey cards! |
| 13:34.52 | Katty | and world of warcraft loot cards! |
| 13:35.00 | lmadsen | oh god... lets not get nerdy now |
| 13:35.15 | lmadsen | doesn't even know what a loot card is because he has never played WoW |
| 13:36.37 | Katty | it's fun :> |
| 13:37.30 | lmadsen | I use my xbox for games, and right now, all I play is NHL09 :) |
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| 13:37.50 | lmadsen | wow.... I just bought this condo, and it's about 5 years old... and just realized they never removed the protective film from the front of the dishwasher |
| 13:38.11 | Zeeek | Nooooo MY DESK! Plleeeeeze |
| 13:38.21 | Zeeek | in fact I hjust did, I'll show you |
| 13:38.32 | lmadsen | it's been on there so long that the glue from the back of the "remove protective film" sticker disolved through the plastic, and is now stuck firmly to the plastic of the dishwasher |
| 13:38.41 | lmadsen | I'm cleaning my desk! |
| 13:39.00 | coppice | lmadsen: if its only 5 years old maybe they never got as far as needing to wash any dishes |
| 13:39.01 | orkid | GIMMIE DA L00T |
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| 13:41.27 | dwery | hello! Is there a way to interconnect mISDN/LCR and SIP without using asterisk? |
| 13:42.54 | Zeeek | Katty http://bit.ly/28OJ9U |
| 13:44.20 | Katty | Zeeek: haha, friday night fancy dress |
| 13:44.35 | Zeeek | or none at all |
| 13:45.02 | Katty | where does it say that? |
| 13:45.34 | Zeeek | It's a whisper campaign |
| 13:46.01 | joobie | guys can the rtpstart and rtpend port ranged be lowered right down? why are there so many ports in the range by default?? |
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| 13:46.21 | Katty | hugs fskrotzki |
| 13:46.31 | Zeeek | joobie: how many simultaneous calls you need? I've set mine to about 20 ports and never had any problems |
| 13:47.00 | Zeeek | I had a router that didn't allow ranges! had to set all 20 by hand |
| 13:47.02 | lmadsen | orkid: gimme da loot! gimme da loot! |
| 13:47.13 | joobie | Zeeek, is it one port per call? |
| 13:47.23 | Zeeek | maybe two? lmadsen? |
| 13:47.56 | joobie | Zeeek, im in the same boat.. well im testing this remotely and don't want to lock up the cisco im working on :P just want to test it out so can statically put a few single ports in the forward fairly safely.. |
| 13:48.16 | Zeeek | put in at least 4 and test away |
| 13:48.52 | Katty | lmadsen: http://flickr.com/photos/izaah/ |
| 13:49.02 | Katty | lmadsen: first 9 pictures |
| 13:49.10 | joobie | Zeeek, how do the ports match up thogh, just for knoweledge sake.. is it one port per call? |
| 13:49.36 | Zeeek | no idea. I was invoking the name of lmadsen who wrote a book about this crap |
| 13:50.11 | lmadsen | joobie: there are a lot of ports by default, but you can lower it down yes. 2 ports per channel I believe |
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| 13:51.32 | joobie | ahh k |
| 13:51.36 | lmadsen | Katty: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=27719&l=226aa&id=512680761 <-- last few pics |
| 13:51.45 | joobie | thanks lmadsen |
| 13:51.48 | lmadsen | np! |
| 13:51.48 | joobie | thanks Zeeek |
| 13:52.28 | lmadsen | Katty: I just found a chocolate bar in my backpack!!!!!! |
| 13:52.48 | Katty | looks cozy!!! |
| 13:52.52 | Katty | the office, not the chocolate bar. |
| 13:52.57 | Zeeek | lmadsen: "I think?" not exactly an authoritative answer! |
| 13:53.03 | lmadsen | Katty: heh thanks :) it's my living room |
| 13:53.09 | Katty | wish i could work from home |
| 13:53.10 | lmadsen | Zeeek: I don't give authoritative answers |
| 13:53.19 | Zeeek | yeah, "No authority" |
| 13:53.30 | Zeeek | found |
| 13:55.30 | lmadsen | Katty: and there are two servers hiding under the desk too... I hid them... I don't like too many electronics to be out in my living room |
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| 13:57.26 | Katty | lmadsen: oh ah, didn't see them |
| 13:58.10 | lmadsen | Katty: that's good! :) |
| 13:59.08 | Katty | you have phones EVERYWHERE! |
| 13:59.08 | Katty | i just have the one |
| 13:59.08 | Katty | and then spares stashed elsewhere |
| 13:59.47 | Katty | that's a nice view you've got. |
| 14:00.00 | Katty | but i'd be willing to wager my yard is much MUCH bigger ;) |
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| 14:03.27 | jaytee | Katty good morning |
| 14:04.48 | Katty | good morning |
| 14:05.45 | lmadsen | Katty: having a yard means you win :) |
| 14:05.54 | lmadsen | Katty: hahaha... I have a ton of phones :) |
| 14:06.22 | lmadsen | right now I only have 2 out though... the Cisco 7960 is in the closet, and the Mitel 5220 and Linksys SPA942 are in a drawer :) |
| 14:07.17 | jaytee | always suspected that the Cisco 7960 was a little gay. |
| 14:07.26 | Katty | good place for them ;) |
| 14:07.41 | Katty | jaytee: so how're all the critters this morning? |
| 14:07.54 | jaytee | Katty, fine I guess but I took the day off today |
| 14:08.00 | Katty | oh |
| 14:08.03 | Katty | horay! day off!!! |
| 14:08.15 | Katty | jaytee: i'm at the office :< |
| 14:08.16 | jaytee | but we're getting cheetahs and some komodo dragons soon!!! yay!!! |
| 14:08.27 | lmadsen | o.O |
| 14:08.28 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: ... and bears, OH MY!! |
| 14:08.29 | Katty | woohoo!!! |
| 14:08.40 | Katty | komodo dragons are very interesting. |
| 14:08.44 | Katty | when they fight, it's like they hug |
| 14:08.51 | Katty | hug to the DEATH! |
| 14:09.00 | lmadsen | lol |
| 14:09.12 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, sadly we lost both of our Kodiak bears over the last 12 months due to old age and illness. Chugach and Akiok, they were magnificent beasts. |
| 14:09.22 | Katty | aww )= |
| 14:09.24 | Katty | how old were they? |
| 14:09.30 | jaytee | and good morning [TK]D-Fender |
| 14:09.43 | Katty | late 30s? |
| 14:09.53 | jaytee | mid 20's |
| 14:09.57 | Katty | what?! |
| 14:10.00 | Katty | bears can live to be 40 )= |
| 14:10.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Komodo dragons can F you up something fierce... nasty creatures... |
| 14:10.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: the problem with being smarter than the average bear is having a shorter life :) |
| 14:10.46 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Right Yogi? |
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| 14:10.54 | [TK]D-Fender | feels old again |
| 14:10.59 | jaytee | Katty, it wasn't age primarily that killed them, it was two different illnesses that tend to affect Kodiaks and Grizzlys at a later stage of their lives. |
| 14:11.08 | Katty | jaytee: aww )= |
| 14:11.18 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you're always full of it, mister! |
| 14:11.22 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: <3 |
| 14:11.34 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I do an awesome impression of Yogi I'm told but I think my Bullwinkle impression is much better. |
| 14:11.53 | jaytee | we still have polar bears. 3 of em. |
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| 14:12.01 | jaytee | and of course lions and tigers |
| 14:12.02 | Katty | polar bears are neat. |
| 14:12.14 | Katty | with their translucent furrs. |
| 14:12.25 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Classics... |
| 14:12.27 | jaytee | you can watch ours swim underwater in part of their exhibit |
| 14:12.28 | Katty | what sort of tigers? |
| 14:12.32 | jaytee | Amur |
| 14:12.37 | jaytee | aka Siberian |
| 14:12.45 | Katty | ah, right |
| 14:12.58 | Katty | just typical orangeys |
| 14:13.06 | Katty | or do you have a white one too? |
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| 14:13.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: White tigers are an artificial bastard breed that is not entirely genetically viable |
| 14:13.33 | Katty | hai errr |
| 14:13.33 | jaytee | nope, no white tigers |
| 14:13.52 | errr | hi Katty! |
| 14:13.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: The defect rate is astounding |
| 14:14.07 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: so are long coat german shepherds |
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| 14:14.10 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: they need love too tho. |
| 14:14.11 | jaytee | here's a pic of Cila and Kisa when they were cubs http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f273/Jaytee0518/CilaandKisa.jpg |
| 14:14.13 | lmadsen | thinks he should have decided to go out for halloween as Rick Astley |
| 14:14.20 | Katty | lmadsen: ! |
| 14:14.21 | jaytee | rofl |
| 14:14.22 | Katty | lmadsen: YOU CAN"T |
| 14:14.24 | Katty | lmadsen: ryan is! |
| 14:14.32 | Katty | lmadsen: he's doing the white trench coat, black shirt bit |
| 14:14.37 | lmadsen | I'm totally not in the same area code as Mr. Ryan |
| 14:14.53 | lmadsen | those are some ferocious looking cubs |
| 14:15.00 | Katty | yeah i guess it'll be okay then |
| 14:15.05 | Katty | you go right ahead and rickroll toronto |
| 14:15.13 | Katty | jaytee: aww. |
| 14:15.21 | Katty | jaytee: they want meelks |
| 14:15.36 | Katty | jaytee: smuggle one out of the zoo for me ;> |
| 14:16.10 | jaytee | they're almost fully grown now :-( |
| 14:16.21 | Katty | bah! |
| 14:16.29 | jaytee | wishes cubs, kitties and puppies could stay that way forever |
| 14:16.30 | Katty | oh well. i've got 5 animals (= |
| 14:16.37 | lmadsen | I still want to try and find a dog mask and go as the guy in the Daft Punk, Da Funk video |
| 14:16.55 | jaytee | and that's me on the top :-) http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f273/Jaytee0518/tombi2.jpg |
| 14:17.13 | Katty | you're having way too much fun! |
| 14:17.31 | Katty | good on gas mileage i bet ;) |
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| 14:18.50 | jaytee | the dolphins are even more fun. I got to work one of the shows and make hand signals to the dolphin I was working with, China. I could wave my hand outwards from the center of my chest and she'd swim backwards on her fluke out of the water. make a circle and she'd dive under and jump in a big arc. it was soooo cool. |
| 14:18.52 | lmadsen | elephants are awesome |
| 14:19.09 | jaytee | lmadsen, http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f273/Jaytee0518/cake.jpg |
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| 14:19.59 | HeMan | Yes! I got it to work! |
| 14:20.22 | Katty | ah ahahahahahaa |
| 14:20.23 | jaytee | good! now Skeletor won't be able to work his evil and mayhem. Whew! |
| 14:20.28 | Katty | oh god |
| 14:20.31 | Katty | ryan's birthday is coming |
| 14:20.36 | Katty | thank you SO MUCH FOR THE IDEA! |
| 14:20.39 | jaytee | ideas? |
| 14:20.48 | jaytee | hehehe, you're entirely welcome |
| 14:20.55 | HeMan | I changed call-limit to 2 on the phones and added ringinuse = yes on the queue |
| 14:21.19 | lmadsen | HeMan: what did you get to work? sounds like device status |
| 14:21.19 | psy0nid3 | lol @ skeletor |
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| 14:21.33 | Katty | jaytee: do you mind if i blog that photo? |
| 14:21.57 | jaytee | psy0nid3, hey! no laughing at HeMan, after all he is the Master of the Universe |
| 14:22.32 | jaytee | Katty, the cake? It's not my photo, the others are but that one I got online from Digg |
| 14:22.35 | yang | I am stuck with digium's g729 codec, their script only works for eth0 interface |
| 14:22.41 | Katty | jaytee: ah, right. |
| 14:22.41 | HeMan | lmadsen: the "problem" with phones not starting to ring directly when hanging up if we had calls on the queue |
| 14:22.52 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Then he'll get annoyed while he's ON a call and shouldn't ignore the client he's serving |
| 14:23.04 | psy0nid3 | jaytee: my apologies! Wouldn't want the power of Greyskull to rain down on me! |
| 14:23.04 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Don't know if I call that "success" |
| 14:23.14 | HeMan | [TK]D-Fender: huh? what? |
| 14:23.26 | sakic | anyone want to make some quick money and make my switchvox work from outside my firewall, I am sick of trying to get it working myself |
| 14:23.41 | HeMan | [TK]D-Fender: the only notification on the busy phone is a flashing led |
| 14:23.58 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: And his "missed calls list" will be nuts |
| 14:24.00 | HeMan | [TK]D-Fender: you could still continue to talk |
| 14:24.13 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: As well as any effects on queue stats |
| 14:24.23 | HeMan | [TK]D-Fender: well, the missed calls we could live with |
| 14:24.31 | lmadsen | if the phone is marked as In Use the queue will not send another call to the device |
| 14:24.42 | [TK]D-Fender | HeMan: Well congrats then, as long as you can live with it... |
| 14:24.45 | lmadsen | that's why device status is so important |
| 14:24.50 | benneton | guys,i've received this on my PRI card: |
| 14:24.56 | benneton | wcte12xp0: Missed interrupt. Increasing latency to 4 ms in order to compensate. |
| 14:25.01 | Katty | wow, i'm still just completely giddy over this cake. |
| 14:25.03 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: Ah, Queue won't but he will get queue calls while on any other... |
| 14:25.12 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: Just as bad in another light |
| 14:25.22 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: no.... it'll still be marked as InUse |
| 14:25.25 | HeMan | we still have busy-level = 1 so everything seem to be working as expected |
| 14:25.32 | benneton | there is a topic on forum.digium.com |
| 14:25.42 | benneton | its not solved? |
| 14:25.46 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: Yes, but he is now allowing it to call InUse <- |
| 14:25.49 | lmadsen | as long as the member is the SIP channel you're monitoring, and not the Local channel that delivers the call to the phone |
| 14:26.04 | lmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: oh right... then ya... ringinuse=no |
| 14:26.11 | HeMan | but now it's time to go home |
| 14:26.16 | HeMan | have a nice weekend! |
| 14:26.28 | lmadsen | go home?! the day just started! |
| 14:26.47 | [TK]D-Fender | lmadsen: He functioanlly just wanted it so the the SECOND that a queue member got OFF the phone that it would distribute to them. |
| 14:27.02 | feeds | lmadsen, he's from Sweden ;) |
| 14:27.14 | lmadsen | no excuses! |
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| 14:27.23 | lmadsen | ok... I need to go do some laundry |
| 14:27.24 | HeMan | yes, Dax att ta helg! |
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| 14:27.32 | feeds | lmadsen, and at 15:28 it IS time to go home |
| 14:27.41 | jaytee | some companies really love beating up on their CSR's. queue overload and burnout for minimum wage. pfffft |
| 14:28.01 | psy0nid3 | under paid phone monkey's |
| 14:28.09 | Katty | we have that problem here :/ |
| 14:28.15 | psy0nid3 | us too |
| 14:28.17 | Katty | it's sad. |
| 14:28.21 | psy0nid3 | agreed |
| 14:28.25 | benneton | Anyone got this: wcte12xp0: Missed interrupt. Increasing latency to 4 ms in order to compensate. ?? |
| 14:28.36 | psy0nid3 | I was one for about 2 years |
| 14:28.59 | psy0nid3 | the sales reps get treated like gold, the crs's like lumps of coal |
| 14:29.06 | jaytee | I cracked up listening to Bob and Tom on the radio the other day. Guy was calling a "Hot Girls Chat Line" and got a guys voice with a thick Indian accent who insisted that he really was "Amanda" |
| 14:29.16 | psy0nid3 | LOL |
| 14:29.50 | Katty | Bob and Tom is from here |
| 14:30.12 | lmadsen | benneton: never seen it, but sounds like zaptel/dahdi corrected for something. If everything continues to work, I wouldn't worry about it. |
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| 14:30.25 | jaytee | I ran a Nortel 61C switch and some RS/6000 AIX boxes for CTI in a large call center, I had 6 queues and over 200 agents total. |
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| 14:30.32 | psy0nid3 | I worked at loan company (who is currently going under) who out sourced all re-payment issues to india, they would always insist thier names were, john, bob, roy etc... |
| 14:30.47 | Katty | Deeewayne: ohay |
| 14:31.04 | Katty | psy0nid3: lame. |
| 14:31.11 | Deeewayne | offers Katty some candy |
| 14:31.38 | benneton | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.40 | psy0nid3 | Katty: yes and when I would try to transfer a call to them they would try and get my ssn instead of the clients lol, it was horrid |
| 14:31.52 | psy0nid3 | fun fun |
| 14:31.59 | jaytee | psy0nid3, whenever I get a telemarketer with an Indian accent I just say, "Have an American who can speak english call me back from within the US" and then I hang up. |
| 14:32.18 | Katty | psy0nid3: eep. |
| 14:32.40 | Katty | Deeewayne: tank you berry much |
| 14:32.45 | Katty | jaytee: i feel bad for them, really |
| 14:33.03 | benneton | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.45 | lmadsen | benneton: not surprised as the tdm400p uses the tigerjet chipset. The tdm410p uses the newer chipset which plays nicer |
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| 14:34.11 | benneton | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.18 | benneton | lucky me |
| 14:34.38 | psy0nid3 | jaytee: lol, I should try that with micro$oft |
| 14:34.43 | jaytee | I had issues with interrupt latency with the tdm400 cards when I had them in a Dell 2650. When I moved them to a 2950 the problems went away. The 2650 had a crappy older PERC raid controller. |
| 14:35.08 | jaytee | psy0nid3, my ex now works for Microsoft. Sell your stock fast! |
| 14:35.28 | benneton | jaytee - LOL |
| 14:35.40 | psy0nid3 | if you complain enough to the xbox live people, you will eventually end up with an ACTUAL gamer playing live lol |
| 14:35.45 | psy0nid3 | really?! |
| 14:35.50 | benneton | see ya, guys... |
| 14:35.51 | benneton | tnx |
| 14:35.54 | jaytee | Katty, another awwww moment. http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f273/Jaytee0518/youeatedcookie.jpg |
| 14:36.11 | Katty | awwwww |
| 14:36.14 | Katty | a scottish fold! |
| 14:36.21 | jaytee | I want a scottish fold so bad |
| 14:36.36 | Katty | get one (= |
| 14:36.45 | Katty | cats are very rewarding. |
| 14:36.59 | jaytee | I have two |
| 14:37.09 | Katty | more the merrier! |
| 14:37.12 | Katty | i have 5 animals! |
| 14:37.30 | jaytee | George who weighs 21lbs and Tasha who is lithe and graceful and a spoiled rotten princess |
| 14:37.47 | Katty | jaytee: http://www.flickr.com/photos/izaah/ and pictures of them all over my office. |
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| 14:38.48 | Abydos313 | the puppy is cute and that phone on your desk looks nice |
| 14:38.58 | jaytee | Katty, wow!!! picture overload |
| 14:39.06 | jaytee | is that a Polycom 501? |
| 14:39.13 | Katty | yes, yes it is. |
| 14:39.41 | Katty | i'm going to fill the entire blue cubicle wall thingy with pictures |
| 14:39.50 | jaytee | nice phone. I tested one and liked it but we decided for a higher end phone to go with the 550 |
| 14:39.53 | wry | hey. at which point does asterisk write cdr? im using Progress() with Playback() and if the line gets hung up at that moment, there is no cdr record of the call. anyone knows a solution to this? |
| 14:40.48 | Katty | jaytee: sadly, most people around here want to go with the 320 cause it's cheap |
| 14:40.54 | *** join/#asterisk ManxPower (n=manxpowe@111.sub-70-220-2.myvzw.com) |
| 14:41.09 | Katty | jaytee: i'm not even going to tell them about grandstream. |
| 14:41.11 | Katty | ManxPower: ohai! |
| 14:41.22 | ManxPower | 'morning |
| 14:41.27 | psy0nid3 | konnichi wa |
| 14:42.09 | jaytee | mornin ManxPower |
| 14:42.18 | iratik | How can I find out what number an extension is speaking with ? ExtensionState and Status AMI commands do not show this information... any ideas ? |
| 14:42.50 | Katty | well i use the manager connection |
| 14:43.02 | Katty | with 3rd party program, like FOP or isymphony |
| 14:43.08 | iratik | @me? |
| 14:43.13 | psy0nid3 | yes |
| 14:43.20 | jaytee | FOP, meh. I'm a Dapper Dan man! |
| 14:43.21 | Katty | sip show users |
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| 14:43.30 | Katty | no |
| 14:43.31 | Katty | not users |
| 14:43.35 | Katty | sip show... |
| 14:43.37 | Katty | hold on |
| 14:43.38 | iratik | not peers |
| 14:43.38 | km- | Hey, what's the best sip termination for business? |
| 14:43.39 | psy0nid3 | channels |
| 14:43.39 | jaytee | sip show inuse |
| 14:43.42 | iratik | ahhh |
| 14:43.44 | iratik | that sounds right |
| 14:43.59 | ManxPower | km-: The best is the telco |
| 14:44.00 | drew | has anyone had experience with 'roaming users' using polycom phones to 'log in' to asterisk with their phone extension / sip id and vm password ? |
| 14:44.13 | km- | manx: I told my boss to talk to GC but he said he didn't want to go through all that. |
| 14:44.30 | ManxPower | drew: in theory that's not hard to do, but I've never done it. |
| 14:44.32 | km- | manx: I warned him about going with "Joe The SIP Guy" mom-and-pops but he seems to think that's the best route <cringe> |
| 14:44.58 | drew | ManxPower: seen any documentation on it ? |
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| 14:45.15 | ManxPower | km-: I'd make sure there was still a POTS line around for fax and for when your internet or any piece of the internet between you and the ITSP goes down. |
| 14:45.27 | Katty | km-: i second that motion |
| 14:45.36 | psy0nid3 | jaytee: lol just noticed the dapper dan line |
| 14:45.37 | psy0nid3 | haha |
| 14:45.38 | ManxPower | drew: "followme" would be a good search term |
| 14:45.42 | iratik | Well sip show channels ... it shows me all the active channells.. doesn't tell me what channel they are connected with |
| 14:45.49 | Katty | iratik: sip show peers |
| 14:45.53 | file | drew: all the tools to do it are present... but you just have to think out what is involved |
| 14:45.57 | jaytee | Asterisk users with PRI termination: "Gee, I love my new phone and the system can do so much! it's amazing!" Asterisk users with SIP ITSP's: "Why do I always hear crackling and popping noises all the time. Waahhh, waaahhh!" |
| 14:45.58 | iratik | maybe good enough... but can i access sip show channels from AMI ? |
| 14:46.00 | Katty | iratik: or inuse? |
| 14:46.01 | drew | ManxPower: aha so thats what it was for ;) |
| 14:46.27 | drew | file: i believed they were from conversations I've had with others who use it, however I havn't seen it in practise |
| 14:46.57 | iratik | inuse shows no detail |
| 14:47.16 | Katty | hmm |
| 14:47.32 | km- | manxpower: oh, we have tons of DS3's, I work for the largest call center company on the planet, this is just for a small side-project. I still cringe about mom-and-pop, but I'm learning my boss likes to experiment ;) |
| 14:47.37 | iratik | FOP does it somehow ... |
| 14:47.55 | file | drew: as an example... setvar in sip.conf to make it known to the dialplan what phone is calling into the dialplan, vmauthenticate to authenticate using a voice mailbox, ${DB} to store the information in the local database and retrieve it |
| 14:47.57 | iratik | shows all the extensions .. and what extension they are connected to |
| 14:48.13 | ManxPower | drew: Actually what you want to do will work by default. |
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| 14:48.34 | ManxPower | Followme is when people are using different phones all the time. Youre users will be using the same phone all the time, right? |
| 14:48.48 | ManxPower | The phone just might physically move around |
| 14:49.02 | drew | manx: think call center, user sits at phone a week one, then phone b week 2 etc |
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| 14:49.43 | ManxPower | km-: sounds like you might be able to convince your boss to be your own ITSP. Imagine how much money you'll save if you just pay yourself for the service. |
| 14:49.59 | drew | i think vmauthenticate is what i need to be looking at |
| 14:49.59 | ManxPower | drew: "hotdesking" is a good term for that. |
| 14:50.12 | km- | hahaha, if only. We're trying to avoid the rigermarole of engaging one of the other departments that cues the rubber-glove audit and red tape. |
| 14:50.30 | Katty | rigermarole? |
| 14:50.36 | Katty | that sounds like a kitty name |
| 14:50.38 | iratik | Is that how you spell that? |
| 14:50.47 | ManxPower | drew: The biggest problem with what you want to do is that is hard to change the phone config dynamically to show the user's extension. |
| 14:50.47 | jaytee | i thought it was rigamarole |
| 14:50.48 | km- | yep |
| 14:50.49 | iratik | I've been trying to find that word for a while |
| 14:50.52 | iratik | rigor moreau |
| 14:50.53 | km- | rigamarole maybe |
| 14:50.57 | mort_gib | km- You don't want to do that with phones! Trust me! |
| 14:51.06 | wry | is there any way to get asterisk write a cdr when using Progress() with Playback()? |
| 14:51.21 | km- | mort_gib: you have no idea how right you are, sir :) |
| 14:51.35 | mort_gib | Unfortunately I have :-( |
| 14:51.35 | km- | trust me, I know better but it's above my pay grade |
| 14:51.43 | mort_gib | Fair enough |
| 14:52.07 | mort_gib | My clients use from 1 to 3 different providers, depending on country and quality |
| 14:52.26 | km- | and yes, it is rigamarole, I stand corrected :) |
| 14:52.28 | Katty | jaytee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8 |
| 14:52.43 | ManxPower | km-: It sucks to be you. |
| 14:52.54 | file | tickles Katty |
| 14:52.56 | ManxPower | Any chance of your boss having an "accident"? |
| 14:52.59 | Katty | hugs file |
| 14:53.03 | km- | oh how I wish ;) |
| 14:53.04 | ManxPower | Sorry, I've been reading BOFH |
| 14:53.39 | Katty | jaytee: hilarious around 1:20 |
| 14:53.50 | km- | my only upside is that I have an interview with google! YAY! I have a snowballs chance in hell of actually getting in, but it feels like winning the lottery just to be considered |
| 14:54.04 | Katty | jaytee: 1:18-1:20 |
| 14:54.09 | jaytee | hahahaa |
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| 14:55.31 | jaytee | hehe, they segway into a Toto version of 12 days of Xmas to the tune of Africa!!!! |
| 14:55.40 | ManxPower | km-: About twice a year I'd wear a suit to work that day (I never wear suites) take a long lunch and deny anything if asked about it. |
| 14:55.41 | Katty | indeed. |
| 14:55.46 | Katty | jaytee: it's quite lovely. |
| 14:56.09 | jaytee | Katty: indeed |
| 14:56.24 | codefreeze-lap | wry: Not at the moment. And most folks' billing systems would probably not understand it correctly if it did, anyway. |
| 14:56.31 | Katty | jaytee: my favorite bit is around 1:18 to 1:20 |
| 14:56.41 | km- | manx: hahaa. |
| 14:57.16 | codefreeze-lap | wry: waitaminute. I think I just totally misunderstood what you were asking. |
| 14:57.41 | Zeeek | ManxPower in a suit... Katty in a suit... /me in a suit... |
| 14:57.42 | Katty | jaytee: "3 french hens, 2 turtle doves, and rudolph the reindeer!!" |
| 14:57.44 | jaytee | km-, there's a t-shirt I've always wanted to wear to a job interview that's plain black and all it says is, "I bring nothing to the table" |
| 14:57.56 | Zeeek | jaytee: nice! |
| 14:57.57 | Katty | s/red/red nosed/ |
| 14:58.09 | km- | hahaha, that's one way to put your message across |
| 14:58.13 | jaytee | Zeeek, funny but not if you really want the job |
| 14:58.41 | jaytee | although you never know. "I like this guy! He thinks outside the box" |
| 14:58.51 | Katty | harmony++ |
| 14:58.51 | wry | codefreeze-lap: im playing back a soundfile prior to answering the call (or placing the caller into a queue). the soundfile plays nicely using Progress() first then Playback() to specify the file with 'noanswer' option. however, there is no CDR written of the event if the caller hangs up while the soundfile is being played. |
| 14:59.03 | Katty | and not i'm not talking about the vampire harmony |
| 14:59.05 | n3hxs | OR, How did he get out of the box? |
| 14:59.19 | ManxPower | <obiwankenobi>This is the person you've been looking for.</obiwankenobi> |
| 14:59.27 | psy0nid3 | lool |
| 14:59.39 | Katty | ManxPower: you better not talk back to darth vader--he'll getcha ya! |
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| 15:01.05 | psy0nid3 | or force choke someone lol |
| 15:01.07 | drew | I can kill you without a tray |
| 15:01.09 | Katty | ManxPower: the sand people capture the robots, and drive, and sell em, at a garage sales... except they're selling robots. and no one's gonna buy r2 and the shiny guy, the shiny guy always worries. luke's gonna buy those |
| 15:01.21 | magronez | is away: almocar |
| 15:01.25 | drew | For I can kill with the force which is strong within me |
| 15:01.46 | Katty | it blowed up princess leah's planet |
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| 15:01.59 | Katty | star wars according to a 3 year old > * |
| 15:02.09 | drew | for i would hack at your neck with the thin bit until the blood flows! |
| 15:02.14 | psy0nid3 | lol cute Katty |
| 15:02.24 | Katty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBM854BTGL0 <- REF |
| 15:02.28 | jaytee | I love the mashup video on YouTube from Return of the Jedi where Luke takes off Vader's helmet and he starts playing blues on a harmonica. |
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| 15:03.46 | Katty | teach luke how to do his lil light up sword, and block the little pokey ball |
| 15:04.18 | drew | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG1hkBXh6lc&feature=related |
| 15:04.37 | [gnubie] | exten => 123,n,ExecIf($[${NUMBER} = 123],SayDigits,123) |
| 15:04.37 | [gnubie] | is there a way to change the default error (ss-noservice) voice message if the entered number is not 123? |
| 15:04.49 | jaytee | I've seen that vid before but she's so cute! |
| 15:05.13 | Katty | it's obvious the video has been edited. |
| 15:05.27 | Katty | and it's obvious that the parent was asking some question ;) |
| 15:05.30 | Katty | but it's still adorable |
| 15:05.43 | jaytee | drew, hahahahaa |
| 15:06.10 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: There is no such message in * |
| 15:06.23 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: Go pay attention to your call and whats actually getting exectuted |
| 15:06.56 | [gnubie] | [TK]D-Fender: it plays the ss-noservice right away |
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| 15:07.04 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: PASTEBIN |
| 15:08.22 | codefreeze-lap | wry: in cdr.conf, there's the unanswered=yes, but you get a lot of garbage that way.... |
| 15:09.42 | jaytee | garbage? maybe, but it might provide useful "forensic" data for revealing unreported call problems sometimes. |
| 15:10.00 | wry | codefreeze-lap: ive set that and still it wont write CDR's if the call is hung up the way i described before :/ |
| 15:10.15 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]>exten => 123,n,ExecIf($[${NUMBER} = 123],SayDigits,123) <-- and this entire idea is a complete waste |
| 15:10.30 | wry | so far the best solution seems to be rolling my own CDR via agi. |
| 15:10.36 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: Actually... scratch that... looked like ${exten} to me at first... |
| 15:10.41 | wry | *deadagi |
| 15:11.02 | [gnubie] | [TK]D-Fender: kindly wait.. |
| 15:11.15 | Katty | jaytee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D46r4uRCGbg <- you know you want one. |
| 15:11.33 | jaytee | wry, just a random though but are you using Answer() at the beginning of the context/exten that's being called? |
| 15:12.13 | easycrypt | is there a cli command to hang up specific channels? |
| 15:12.25 | ManxPower | [gnubie]: There should not be any ss-noservice messages played unless you play it in your dialplan |
| 15:12.25 | wry | jaytee: no. its an IVR. im placing the call in a queue once the soundfile was played. |
| 15:12.28 | [TK]D-Fender | easycrypt: "soft hangup [channel]" |
| 15:12.30 | Katty | if i got a cat, i think it'd be a rex. |
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| 15:12.51 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Yup, I'm just waiting to see the rope... |
| 15:12.54 | ManxPower | Katty: I want a bob cat named Robert |
| 15:13.07 | wry | jaytee: after the soundfile gets played the call is put in a queue and the agents are being rung. if the caller hangs up then, theres a CDR written of it. |
| 15:13.08 | jaytee | I want a lynx named Larry |
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| 15:13.35 | Katty | ManxPower: cute |
| 15:13.39 | [TK]D-Fender | I want a rotweiller named "Kitty". Here Kitty Kitty Kitty Kitty! ;) |
| 15:13.41 | Katty | ManxPower: lovely critters, but require a breeder's license. |
| 15:13.51 | [TK]D-Fender | should get taken in for animal cruelty |
| 15:13.57 | Katty | ManxPower: 40x40x10ft covered pin. |
| 15:13.59 | ManxPower | wry: you realize that many telcos disconnect the call if it's not answered in something like 120 seconds, tright? |
| 15:14.05 | Katty | ManxPower: they'll do random checks on your house, and the pin |
| 15:14.06 | jaytee | Katty, that's torturously cute |
| 15:14.24 | wry | ManxPower: 90 seconds at the telco we're using yes. |
| 15:14.26 | Katty | ManxPower: but if you're interested, check into the Type II breeder's license |
| 15:14.31 | ManxPower | Katty: Bobcats would be too wild to be practical. I'd love a Pixie Bob, however. |
| 15:14.38 | drew | hmm i think i need to look at 'agents' |
| 15:14.42 | Katty | ManxPower: it covers smaller critters, birds, squirrels, foxes, lynx, etc |
| 15:14.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: ManxPower isn't a "breeder" ;) |
| 15:15.00 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: we're all aware of that lovely fact. |
| 15:15.01 | Zeeek | still on animals? Let's talk about motorcycles! http://voipusersconference.org in 40 minutes |
| 15:15.35 | Katty | ManxPower: aye. a good bit too wild, even if you got them as a kit. |
| 15:15.46 | Katty | ManxPower: same with the red tailed foxes i wanted to raise. |
| 15:16.02 | Katty | ManxPower: doable, but always dangerious, especially with ferrets running about |
| 15:16.25 | Katty | ManxPower: you could try an ashera cat tho |
| 15:16.40 | Katty | ManxPower: lovely kitty with serval blood |
| 15:16.51 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you've probably heard of the ashera, yes? |
| 15:16.52 | jaytee | serval cats are cool |
| 15:17.01 | SirWhit | Anyone having problems running agi in the latest version of trunk? |
| 15:17.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Name sounds famliar... I should, but currently can't |
| 15:17.15 | SirWhit | I keep getting file does not exist errors.. |
| 15:17.22 | [gnubie] | ManxPower: i see.. because it's the default invalid message to me.. thanks.. i forgot this.. :) |
| 15:17.29 | Katty | http://www.imagecows.com/uploads/0d29-ashera-cat-1.jpg |
| 15:17.43 | Katty | if you have 22 grand sitting around |
| 15:17.46 | Katty | you can get in line for a kitten |
| 15:18.16 | jaytee | hmmm, think I'd rather just go with a scottish fold and buy a Prius |
| 15:18.22 | Katty | good plan |
| 15:18.43 | Katty | maine coons are adorable too |
| 15:19.28 | jaytee | my friend, Jeff who lives in Kittery, ME has a double pawed maine coon cat named Traction |
| 15:21.02 | jaytee | the ashera looks neat but if they're anything like a serval I wouldn't want one. we have a serval named Acacia at the zoo and she's pretty agressive even with her regular handlers. |
| 15:22.10 | Katty | the ashera, and the savannah cats which are a close breed, are a lot more active than typical cats |
| 15:22.20 | Katty | they usually have domestic cat blood, and often leopard blood too |
| 15:22.30 | Katty | they're highly active, and extremely vocal, but not really Mean |
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| 15:22.55 | Katty | kinda like the bengal tabbies. |
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| 15:23.17 | Dr-Linux|home | how can Set callerid in perl AGI: |
| 15:23.20 | Dr-Linux|home | i did this: |
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| 15:23.26 | Dr-Linux|home | $caller_id=$AGI->set_callerid('40933'); |
| 15:23.26 | jaytee | there's a woman in Oregon that cross breeds domestic tabbys with Asian leopard cats and the hybrid is pretty nice. |
| 15:23.43 | Dr-Linux|home | but $caller_id has vaule "1" |
| 15:24.00 | Dr-Linux|home | why not '40933'? |
| 15:24.08 | Katty | jaytee: those types of cats are really vocal. they give me a headache... my mother has a bengal tabby whos' about 10 and still acts like a kitten. |
| 15:24.24 | codefreeze-lap | wry: any theoretical/practical constraint against calling Answer() before playing the file? |
| 15:24.50 | km- | anyone here use VoipVoip? |
| 15:25.06 | km- | http://www.voipvoip.com/ |
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| 15:25.21 | Katty | never heard of it until now |
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| 15:25.42 | wry | codefreeze-lap: is it possible to Answer() the line and play a soundfile, then try bridge the caller with an agent waiting in a queue? |
| 15:26.08 | Dr-Linux|home | anybody using perl agi |
| 15:26.50 | codefreeze-lap | wry: sure... try it out and see if there's harm.... Hmmm. |
| 15:26.59 | Katty | wry: you might be looking for Dial(SIP/foo,,A(soundfile)) |
| 15:27.32 | Katty | wry: which plays a short introductory audio snippet to the person answering the call |
| 15:28.37 | wry | Katty: to the person answering the call..? not the caller? |
| 15:28.43 | Katty | wry: yes. |
| 15:28.52 | Katty | wry: we use it for office with mutiple companies |
| 15:29.09 | miloux | Anyone know of wireless routerns that are reliable to use voip over? |
| 15:29.09 | Katty | wry: play a brief snippet to the receptionist, stating which company the call is for, and then she knows how to answer. |
| 15:29.35 | Katty | miloux: pretty much all wireless is sketchy |
| 15:29.40 | Katty | miloux: unless you're in asia |
| 15:30.20 | Katty | miloux: don't even think about the wireless sprint cards either. |
| 15:30.27 | Katty | miloux: you will shoot yourself in the head. |
| 15:30.45 | wry | Katty: the introductory audio snippet is intended for the caller in my case. its an insurance company's IVR. callers ring in, theyre told that their call will be recorded, then after listening to the soundfile attempt is made to bridge them with one of the agents waiting in the queue. |
| 15:30.48 | jaytee | why asia? how come they're not sketchy |
| 15:31.52 | Katty | wry: so you're wanting something like Answer, Playback(foo), Dial() |
| 15:32.23 | wry | Katty: i'll have to check those out thanks. |
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| 15:33.53 | Katty | miloux: i hear the cisco 871W isn't too shabby |
| 15:34.29 | Katty | miloux: if you don't have a lot on it, something as simple as a linksys el crapo wrt54gl might do the trick |
| 15:34.30 | miloux | Katty: ok thanks. |
| 15:35.05 | Katty | miloux: you can always go to newegg and use their power search drilldown thingy |
| 15:35.36 | miloux | Katty: its going to be used at times only for only a few phones... |
| 15:35.46 | Katty | miloux: what type of phones? |
| 15:35.54 | Katty | miloux: err, what type of wireless? G? |
| 15:37.02 | miloux | G |
| 15:37.14 | miloux | B if needed.. |
| 15:37.18 | Katty | hmm. |
| 15:37.27 | Katty | i'd get something with a little bit more throughput if i were you |
| 15:37.37 | miloux | Probably best |
| 15:37.45 | Katty | maybe a wireless box with data rates around 300MBps |
| 15:37.51 | Katty | just incase someone's feeling chatty |
| 15:40.06 | Katty | lmadsen: what are you having for lunch? |
| 15:40.22 | lmadsen | right now... cereal |
| 15:40.28 | Katty | you had that yesterday |
| 15:40.30 | psy0nid3 | w00t! |
| 15:40.33 | psy0nid3 | lol |
| 15:40.43 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: I wasn't aware that wireless could do 300Mbps yet (at least for consumer wireless) |
| 15:40.44 | Katty | jaytee: what are you having for lunch? |
| 15:40.50 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: yes. |
| 15:40.53 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: yes it can. |
| 15:41.01 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: N is 200Mbps |
| 15:41.23 | jaytee | Katty, I haven't decided yet. |
| 15:41.39 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: check out the Cisco WRS4400N |
| 15:41.57 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: it's aorund 200 bucks |
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| 15:42.19 | wry | thanks, ill get back to writing the damn extensions.conf :/ |
| 15:42.27 | jaytee | Katty, since I took the day off I slept in a little extra and I'm still digesting my Quaker Maple and Brown Sugar oatmeal. Might make some tuna salad around 1ish. |
| 15:42.37 | Katty | hmm. tuna sald. |
| 15:42.39 | Katty | ooh, tuna melt |
| 15:42.49 | Katty | lovely idea. |
| 15:42.56 | putnopvut | What is a tuna melt? |
| 15:43.04 | Katty | think grilled cheese |
| 15:43.07 | Katty | with tuna in the middle |
| 15:43.13 | lmadsen | what?! |
| 15:43.14 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: not found |
| 15:43.16 | lmadsen | putnopvut: what?!?!?! |
| 15:43.26 | lmadsen | putnopvut: and yes... what Katty said |
| 15:43.27 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124082 |
| 15:43.29 | putnopvut | Katty: that sounds pretty good, depending on the type of cheese used. |
| 15:43.29 | lmadsen | delicious |
| 15:43.35 | Zeeek | Please feel free to join us: http://voipusersconference.org should be interesting today! |
| 15:43.41 | Katty | putnopvut: i like sharp cheddar. |
| 15:43.50 | putnopvut | And I imagine that using fresh tuna, while expensive would be really good, too. |
| 15:43.50 | lmadsen | tuna fish sandwich with cheese, heated up in a toaster oven, or cooked like a grilled cheese |
| 15:43.52 | jaytee | yeah, I make mine with finely chopped celery and red onion, a dash of course ground black pepper, a dash of tarragon and a drizzle of lemon juice with real mayo. Not that Miracle Whip horsejizm. |
| 15:43.59 | Zeeek | sip:123@ts.x2z.eu dtmf 122622# 1# |
| 15:43.59 | lmadsen | I typically use chedder |
| 15:44.03 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: that's still only 200, not 300 |
| 15:44.09 | jaytee | cheddah is bettah!!! |
| 15:44.22 | *** part/#asterisk fred-tmft (n=fred-tea@c-98-243-174-131.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 15:44.30 | psy0nid3 | Zeek, that's the zombie edition right? |
| 15:44.35 | Katty | lmadsen: do you like pepper jack? |
| 15:44.40 | lmadsen | Katty: I like most cheeses |
| 15:44.44 | Katty | lmadsen: good man. |
| 15:44.47 | lmadsen | as long as it's not blue cheese |
| 15:44.53 | Katty | moldy cheese! |
| 15:44.58 | lmadsen | although that'd blasphemy for a dane to say |
| 15:45.05 | lmadsen | that's* |
| 15:45.07 | jaytee | me too as long as it's not blue cheese, limburger or roquefort |
| 15:45.20 | Katty | smoked gouda. |
| 15:45.26 | Katty | chipolte cheddar |
| 15:45.31 | Katty | caraway rye |
| 15:45.39 | jaytee | a wheel of bree with garlic cloves and greek olives shoved in it and heated in the oven is delish though |
| 15:45.44 | Katty | maybe i'll just go buy some cheese and crackers for lunch. |
| 15:45.58 | putnopvut | Katty: that sounds very unsatisfying |
| 15:46.00 | jaytee | baby Edam cheese is nice too, kinda like Gouda |
| 15:46.13 | Katty | putnopvut: well i could get some summer sausage too i guess |
| 15:46.19 | lmadsen | Katty: actually that was more of my breakfast than lunch |
| 15:46.20 | Katty | putnopvut: and celery and carrot sticks |
| 15:46.43 | putnopvut | That would definitely fall under the "easy-to-prepare" category :) |
| 15:46.45 | jaytee | summer sausage, mmmmm. |
| 15:47.13 | Katty | putnopvut: oh yes. |
| 15:47.22 | Katty | putnopvut: and i'm all for easy--cooking gets old. |
| 15:47.38 | putnopvut | My main problem with cooking is the ensuing cleanup. |
| 15:47.56 | jaytee | I'd like to get some chourico but I'd have to order over the internet. nothing local |
| 15:48.15 | jaytee | it's like chourizo but it's portuguese and has a slightly different flavor |
| 15:48.50 | putnopvut | jaytee: heh, I thought you had just misspelled "chourizo" at first :) |
| 15:49.32 | putnopvut | finds it funny that the conversations in both #asterisk and #asterisk-dev are centered on cheese right now. |
| 15:49.59 | jaytee | putnopvut, I can get tons of chourizo here. I live in a section of Indianapolis that could aptly be called "Little Tijuana" |
| 15:50.28 | jaytee | all I need to do to throw a panic into my neighbors is say, "Teine usted un tarjeta verde?" |
| 15:52.37 | jaytee | it's kinda cool actually because even though we have the large supermarket chains in the area we also have mexican supermercados and they carry the bottled Coca-Cola from mexico made with real cane sugar. not high-fructose corn syrup. |
| 15:59.21 | Katty | oh ah, lunch time |
| 15:59.37 | Katty | offi go now. tata. |
| 15:59.46 | Maliuta | lunch? at 2am? |
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| 16:01.20 | n3hxs | 2am, wow, I could still be drinking. |
| 16:03.13 | *** join/#asterisk seanmh (i=HydraIRC@216.31.101.94) |
| 16:03.21 | Nightwork | Does asterisk-stat actually work for anyone without a lot of work? |
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| 16:04.51 | Maliuta | n3hxs: you live in the wrong timezone then ... come over to the one true timezone ;) |
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| 16:08.12 | Zeeek | #voip-users-conference right now about donations, etc for open source developments |
| 16:08.39 | Mimmus | hi, I'm finding differences with pattern matching in Asterisk 1.4 |
| 16:09.01 | Mimmus | _s-. doesn't matches s- anymore, as with Asterisk 1.2 |
| 16:09.05 | Mimmus | any reference? |
| 16:09.45 | Maliuta | ~thebook |
| 16:09.46 | jbot | Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com |
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| 16:13.09 | Maliuta | wonders why ppl in this channel are probing his client |
| 16:14.12 | Maliuta | such acts may be construed as attacks against this host and this network |
| 16:14.42 | *** join/#asterisk outtolunc (n=me@c-67-188-204-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:14.47 | ManxPower | Maliuta: usually it's a bot checking for unsecured proxy servers |
| 16:15.44 | Maliuta | 2 separate probes |
| 16:15.52 | ManxPower | Maliuta: from who? |
| 16:16.05 | Maliuta | n3hxs and psy0nid3 |
| 16:16.55 | rob0 | 16:04 < Maliuta> n3hxs: you live in the wrong timezone then ... come over to the one true timezone ;) |
| 16:17.11 | rob0 | probably just trying to find out which TZ is true |
| 16:17.32 | rob0 | it's mine BTW ... UTC |
| 16:17.40 | Maliuta | with a version? |
| 16:17.47 | n3hxs | I did a display user info to find out where Maliuta is, but.... invasion? |
| 16:17.58 | Maliuta | rob0: oh and GMT+10 is the one true tz ;P |
| 16:18.17 | coppice | GMT+8 is the world's most popular |
| 16:18.17 | magronez | is back |
| 16:18.29 | Maliuta | n3hxs: a /whois doesn't ctcp my client |
| 16:19.06 | n3hxs | just using the tools in this crappy client. |
| 16:19.16 | *** join/#asterisk Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) |
| 16:19.28 | Alan_Hicks | Howdy. One quick question for y'all. |
| 16:19.47 | Katty | wow. |
| 16:19.55 | Katty | someone had a death threat at work today. |
| 16:20.14 | Maliuta | sounds like high school to me |
| 16:20.18 | Alan_Hicks | I've been googling and reading docs, but nothing I've found has lead me to an answer. I was wondering if there is anyway for asterisk to delete old voicemail messages after they've been sitting for a couple of weeks, or do I need to just script this with cron? |
| 16:20.19 | psy0nid3 | Katty: wow, we had a few of those |
| 16:20.29 | Katty | crazy |
| 16:20.35 | psy0nid3 | agreed |
| 16:20.39 | Katty | i hope to never make enemies. |
| 16:20.40 | Katty | ever. |
| 16:20.45 | psy0nid3 | people are crazy and paranoid |
| 16:20.57 | Katty | and easily scared. |
| 16:21.05 | coppice | making enemies == parenthood |
| 16:21.11 | ManxPower | Alan_Hicks: you would have to use cron, but be careful. Lock the directory with lockfiles like Voicemail does, and make sure to renumber the message files when you delete something. |
| 16:21.12 | psy0nid3 | lol |
| 16:21.13 | Maliuta | people are ignorant, inane and self obsessed |
| 16:21.28 | rob0 | Speaking of crazy and paranoid, in walks Alan_Hicks! |
| 16:21.33 | psy0nid3 | lol |
| 16:21.45 | Katty | hmm. |
| 16:21.47 | Katty | mexican food. |
| 16:21.50 | Katty | hmm. |
| 16:21.57 | Maliuta | mexican food is boring |
| 16:21.59 | Alan_Hicks | ManxPower: Thanks. I thought I'd have to script something, but I appreciate the warning on lockfiles and all. |
| 16:22.18 | Alan_Hicks | rob0: I've always been crazy but it's kept me from going insane. |
| 16:22.33 | ManxPower | Alan_Hicks: check the source code of Voicemail to see what the lockfile name is and where it is located |
| 16:22.40 | Alan_Hicks | ManxPower: Thanks. |
| 16:22.49 | Katty | Maliuta: i like me some guacamole |
| 16:22.57 | Katty | Maliuta: and margaritas |
| 16:22.59 | Maliuta | Alan_Hicks: is that like "I'm sick ... and sometimes it's even physical"? |
| 16:23.04 | Alan_Hicks | I'm not sure I'll need to do that. My client was just curious about how long they stayed put. |
| 16:23.13 | ManxPower | Alan_Hicks: 1.6 has a set of applications to create your own "mini voicemail", maybe one of those apps or functions would do what you want |
| 16:23.27 | Alan_Hicks | Maliuta: More like "I'm physical... and sometimes it's even sick." |
| 16:24.08 | Maliuta | Katty: not into the spicer things in life? ;) |
| 16:24.43 | Katty | Maliuta: on the contrary, i love spice. |
| 16:24.50 | Katty | Maliuta: if your eyes aren't watering, it's not spicy enough. |
| 16:24.58 | Katty | off i go now, tata |
| 16:25.16 | Maliuta | Katty: say that after smelling a chilli flake with GVH in the mouth |
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| 16:29.31 | *** part/#asterisk Alan_Hicks (n=alan@cardinal.lizella.net) |
| 16:29.49 | wacky__ | hey!! how do we abort a "restart gracefully" ? |
| 16:30.17 | Maliuta | with kill -9 -1 |
| 16:30.26 | Maliuta | no, really ;P |
| 16:31.05 | jaytee | abort halt |
| 16:31.16 | ManxPower | wacky__: the CLI help might be helpful to you |
| 16:31.33 | Maliuta | if its in a movie you can type on the keyboard to bring up the ABORT dialog |
| 16:31.39 | ManxPower | Thats where Digium hides most of the important Asterisk docs |
| 16:31.44 | wacky__ | ffffffiiiiiiew! |
| 16:31.45 | wacky__ | thanks a lot! :) |
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| 16:32.32 | jaytee | wacky__, what'd you use? kill -9-1? :-) |
| 16:32.36 | jameswf | trixbox refers to their box as "sexy" I wonder if we can do once you go black... on our boxes :) |
| 16:32.49 | psy0nid3 | lol |
| 16:33.41 | ManxPower | The only time Trixbox is sexy is when viewed thru beer goggles |
| 16:33.48 | psy0nid3 | hahahaha |
| 16:34.16 | jaytee | "This just in from the AP wire! Victoria's Secret? She's a tranny!" |
| 16:36.05 | jaytee | "ObamaVox, we cram more empty promises into our ip-pbx than 10 Trixbox CE appliances guaranteed!" |
| 16:36.12 | Maliuta | ManxPower: nah, even beer googles don't get it there, you'd need to be blind with no sense of touch |
| 16:37.17 | ManxPower | jaytee: or the John McCain box -- it changes it's interface every few days |
| 16:37.22 | Maliuta | "McCainVOX - less likely to die in service than a Tribox" |
| 16:37.28 | jaytee | ManxPower, hahahaha |
| 16:37.32 | jaytee | hahaha |
| 16:37.42 | jaytee | Maliuta, the kill -9 was a joke right? |
| 16:37.49 | *** part/#asterisk pluesch0r (n=pluesch0@91.186.158.6) |
| 16:37.51 | Maliuta | jaytee: ahh yeah |
| 16:37.59 | Abydos313 | the obamavox will cost you more per min heh |
| 16:38.03 | ManxPower | or McCain box, it's just like trixbox, but it's not. |
| 16:38.04 | Maliuta | jaytee: hence the "no, really ;P" |
| 16:38.06 | jaytee | good, I get worried about early senility |
| 16:38.23 | ManxPower | jaytee: sometimes you need to kill -9 Asterisk |
| 16:38.32 | Maliuta | jaytee: and it's not like you can tell people "cat /dev/random > /dev/mem" anymore |
| 16:38.45 | jaytee | ManxPower, on rare occassion I guess you might. fortunately I haven't had that problem |
| 16:39.11 | ManxPower | jaytee: on a working system you could never have to. |
| 16:39.13 | Maliuta | ManxPower: I wasn't suggesting he provide it with an argument |
| 16:39.18 | jaytee | "oh, just do mv /etc/asterisk/*.* /dev/null" |
| 16:39.19 | ManxPower | But most people don't have working systems here. |
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| 16:40.32 | Maliuta | jaytee: I used to hang in a chan on another server ... the topic marked is a non-support channel, we used to give people massive oneliners to do things like remove the partition table from their box and reboot it |
| 16:40.48 | Maliuta | jaytee: because some people can't take a hint |
| 16:41.10 | jaytee | Maliuta, so you're a big fan of cruelty and torture? Guantanamo is hiring! |
| 16:41.47 | Maliuta | jaytee: those pussies? they wouldn't let me have an real fun, so I quit |
| 16:41.48 | ManxPower | Much like the GUI users that come here, most of them are told we don't support systems using a GUI and they whine and complain anyway, |
| 16:42.27 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 16:42.46 | [gnubie] | anybody can help me here? => http://pastebin.ca/1241683 |
| 16:43.12 | Maliuta | I remember one guy that wanted to install drivers for his monitor .... we dd'd his windows driver disk dead, re-arranged his parition table then had him cat /dev/zero into ram |
| 16:43.47 | jaytee | Maliuta, remind me never to piss you off or move into the same neighborhood :-) |
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| 16:44.44 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ |
| 16:44.49 | [gnubie] | i don't know why after a pressing 3 digits that is not 123, it hangup even with my while condition is out there.. |
| 16:44.51 | Maliuta | jaytee: I move in mysterious ways ... I may be in the house next door watching you right now! |
| 16:45.26 | jaytee | Maliuta, so is that you sending me all those penis enlargement and hair replacement spam emails? |
| 16:45.38 | mort_gib | So Friday kicks in here with people drin'kin and boasting of how they made people misserable ;-) |
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| 16:45.43 | Maliuta | jaytee: and remember I am scheduled into north america before xmass |
| 16:45.54 | jaytee | Maliuta, coming here for what? |
| 16:46.11 | Maliuta | jaytee: you get those emails too? I thought it was just for me! |
| 16:46.20 | Maliuta | jaytee: visiting the 'rents for xmas |
| 16:46.29 | jaytee | Maliuta, I keep my shades down all the time now. |
| 16:46.43 | Maliuta | jaytee: don't have to set foot in the US though |
| 16:46.50 | jaytee | Maliuta, that's a long flight |
| 16:46.52 | Maliuta | straight into .ca |
| 16:47.09 | jaytee | where in Oz are you? |
| 16:47.21 | Maliuta | well the pilots flying the plane ... I can just kick back with a scotch or 3 or 10 |
| 16:47.28 | Maliuta | Brisbane |
| 16:47.49 | Maliuta | going from sub tropical to sub zero in 14.5 hours |
| 16:47.56 | jaytee | ah, I always wanted to go to Coober Pedy, I buy opal rough from a guy there. Always wanted to meet him in person. |
| 16:48.20 | Maliuta | it's a mining town, seen one? seen 'em all |
| 16:48.42 | Maliuta | although the do have the dugouts there, too hot to live above ground |
| 16:48.59 | Maliuta | s/the do/they do/ |
| 16:49.23 | jaytee | yeah, but it would still be nice to visit Sydney and then take a side trip to CP just to see things for a day or two. |
| 16:49.35 | Maliuta | I don't like sydney |
| 16:50.05 | jaytee | too big? |
| 16:50.07 | Maliuta | I've lived all around .au and in some places outside it ... I like SEQ (South East Queensland) |
| 16:50.29 | Maliuta | nah, size don't bother me. It's the ppl and the stress levels |
| 16:50.45 | Maliuta | they all need to be sedated to make them act normal |
| 16:51.10 | Maliuta | Melbourneites need to pull whatever it is that stuck up their arses out |
| 16:51.17 | jaytee | sounds like the US. I'm in favor of aerial spraying of Xanax in a gaseous form for most places here. |
| 16:51.23 | Maliuta | 2 years in Hellbourne was enough |
| 16:51.56 | psy0nid3 | we need something stronger than xanax lol |
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| 16:52.24 | Maliuta | napalm? |
| 16:52.29 | [TK]D-Fender | [gnubie]: exten => 123,n,While($[${i}] < 4]) <- bad. Stare at it for a good long time until you see why. |
| 16:52.31 | psy0nid3 | LOL |
| 16:52.38 | Maliuta | vx? |
| 16:53.07 | Maliuta | offers psy0nid3 some white powder to snort |
| 16:53.08 | psy0nid3 | deflects the hit |
| 16:53.08 | psy0nid3 | Maliuta nice try! |
| 16:53.08 | psy0nid3 | hits Maliuta with a KFC mega bucket |
| 16:53.22 | jaytee | [gnubie], still around? |
| 16:53.43 | Maliuta | psy0nid3: I don't do buckets, not really into pot |
| 16:53.54 | psy0nid3 | lol |
| 16:54.13 | [gnubie] | jaytee: yes, i'm still here.. |
| 16:54.40 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: maybe [gnubie] has a fetish for [ and ] He uses so many of them. |
| 16:54.44 | [gnubie] | i am testing just the Read() without the while() and endwhile() loop but still with no luck |
| 16:54.56 | jaytee | exten => 123,n,While($[${i}] < 4]) <--- looks like you might be missing a left bracket there. Could be wrong though, I was never real good at the "new math". |
| 16:55.08 | ManxPower | [gnubie]: not suprizing as your condition is WRONG |
| 16:55.16 | ManxPower | jaytee: Hey! let him figure it out |
| 16:55.40 | Maliuta | ok, 3am time for bed |
| 16:55.42 | scrash08 | What settings, if any, would enable me to pass a MWI (from my VSP) "through" *? |
| 16:56.04 | jaytee | ManxPower, fine! I'll just go back to downloading more porn. |
| 16:56.08 | ManxPower | scardinal: none |
| 16:56.53 | ManxPower | distributed MWI was (I think) added to 1.6 via OpenAIS |
| 16:57.20 | scrash08 | ManxPower: Was that "none" intended for me? |
| 16:57.27 | ManxPower | scrash08: Correct |
| 16:57.44 | ManxPower | silly tab completion |
| 16:57.54 | jaytee | Geomant wants 1800 bucks for a server license for MWI2007 just to send MWI to phones from Exchange 2007 UM. Bah! |
| 16:58.57 | scrash08 | ManxPower: Heh. So, IIUC, for now (with * 1.4, at least), either (a) connect ATA directly to VSP to 'get' the MWI stutter tone, or (b) upgrade (maybe) to the 1.6 branch, correct? |
| 16:59.51 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@cc341200-a.assen1.dr.home.nl) |
| 17:00.44 | lesouvage | completely off topic but nice to read http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=836&tag=nl.e102 (5 reasons why windows vista fails) |
| 17:02.15 | Nightwork | heh. |
| 17:02.30 | psy0nid3 | there is alot more than 5 lol |
| 17:02.41 | Nightwork | 1-3 on that list aren't going to happen. |
| 17:02.54 | Nightwork | 4 and 5 will improve over Vista, but don't expect miracles. |
| 17:03.59 | ManxPower | The only Microsoft product that would not suck is if they started making vacuum cleaners. |
| 17:04.35 | Nightwork | Everyone who is still spewing zealotry over the linux desktop needs a reality check. |
| 17:05.44 | lesouvage | I have my personal success today. Involved in a community project I convinced the rest of the team to buy 2 fancy 24 iMac computers instead of doing the obvious and buying some windows boxes. |
| 17:06.36 | ManxPower | Oh, the Linux desktop isn't any shining star either. |
| 17:06.37 | rob0 | I (like many) simply don't see the appeal of Windows. I wouldn't be able to do what I need to do. That's not zealotry, and it's not unreal. |
| 17:06.40 | jaytee | I vote we bring back Microsoft Bob! |
| 17:07.01 | ManxPower | I don't run GUIs on servers. It is as simple as that. |
| 17:07.28 | ManxPower | I use Windows on my laptop but that is just because it is EASIER to get working |
| 17:07.29 | lesouvage | Now the youngsters can do some fancy stuf with the whole iLife package! |
| 17:08.30 | jaytee | ManxPower, I was the same way with my lappy till I tried Ubuntu on it. Wireless was a bit twitchy but they've made big strides between Gutsy and Intrepid |
| 17:08.37 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Run no, install, hell yeah... I always want every tool possible at my disposal. |
| 17:09.30 | jaytee | my RHEL 5 server came with Gnome installed. I usually just do a gdm stop, leave it off and use Putty remotely. |
| 17:09.43 | ManxPower | jaytee: I use Firefox, Thunderbird, Pidgin, jEdit, Open Office all stuff that is cross platform |
| 17:09.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: I use one of my linux boxes as an internet gateway so I SSH in to run wireshark, etc with an X-Server on my PC |
| 17:10.06 | [TK]D-Fender | jnayI jsut change the starting runlevel. |
| 17:10.10 | lesouvage | And maybe I can install Asterisk for MACOSX in the process or vmware with a Debian image with Asterisk in it. |
| 17:10.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: I just change the starting runlevel. |
| 17:11.14 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, I could change it from 5 to 3 but there's times I might want the GUI. I have a Dell 2950 with remote management card so I can remote into that and reboot the server and do tasks, makes some things easier. |
| 17:11.44 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Thats just the starting runlevel. I don't know anywhere that I can't live with logging in in text and jsut doing "startx" |
| 17:12.10 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, hmmm, maybe I'll start doing that then |
| 17:12.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Thats my home server env as well as its my "...and the kitchen sink" server |
| 17:12.54 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Saves on startup time, and the amount of things that can go wrong. means I don't have processes taking up memory or crashing that I didn't really need. |
| 17:13.02 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Kinda makes sense for a server. |
| 17:13.36 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I haven't really stress tested my 2950 but I'm betting that even with the GUI loaded it could handle a 100 concurrent calls without breaking a sweat. |
| 17:14.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Sure... just I prefer not to start it up. Always there when I need it, never there when I don't |
| 17:14.52 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, makes sense to me. I'll have to set that up |
| 17:14.57 | [TK]D-Fender | <3 AutoHotkey |
| 17:15.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Any Windows users out there, go get this... |
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| 17:24.45 | edoceo | To all who helped yesterday I've got my dynamic list to Dial() store in the DB, add and remove extensions using *30 and *31 |
| 17:25.06 | edoceo | Thanks to everyone! ([TK] and ManxPower esp.) |
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| 17:26.52 | edoceo | Here's what I learned/did: http://edoceo.com/exemplar/asterisk-db-dial-groups |
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| 17:28.24 | [TK]D-Fender | edoceo: Nice low-level programming approach. |
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| 17:31.14 | cesar_CR | hello guys |
| 17:31.19 | cesar_CR | I have a question ? |
| 17:31.21 | edoceo | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks! I'm more of a coder than an admin so that was really racking my brains, took four beers to get it working |
| 17:31.32 | cesar_CR | is asterisk 1.6 stable : ) ? |
| 17:31.40 | cesar_CR | like in 1.4 |
| 17:31.42 | edoceo | I couldn't get AEL to work in my system, nor could I find Perl() and PHP() in 1.2 :( |
| 17:31.47 | Carlos_PHX | Gets popcorn |
| 17:32.03 | [TK]D-Fender | edoceo: AGI <- |
| 17:32.07 | edoceo | cesar_CR: Everyone I know is running some revision of 1.2 |
| 17:32.30 | Carlos_PHX | We run 1.6 in limited production and found it stable. |
| 17:32.36 | ManuelBG | i cant call using zap channels |
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| 17:33.00 | ManuelBG | -- Executing [s-CHANUNAVAIL@macro-dialout-trunk:3] NoOp("SIP/1103-08401c20", "TRUNK Dial failed due to CHANUNAVAIL (hangupcause: 66) - failing through to other trunks") in new stack |
| 17:33.03 | Carlos_PHX | cesar_CR: Do you have a problem, or wondering which version to use? |
| 17:33.25 | cesar_CR | Carlos_PHX, wondering which one to use ? |
| 17:34.11 | Carlos_PHX | What size of installation? Call volume? Experience level? |
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| 17:34.50 | cesar_CR | 10 users, test enviroment to gain experience... |
| 17:35.07 | [TK]D-Fender | ManuelBG: pastebin the actual complete failed call and tell us exactly what tech & signalling is involved |
| 17:35.08 | Carlos_PHX | Then definitely 1.6 |
| 17:35.35 | Carlos_PHX | It has different commands, so you want to learn those, and it's definitely stable enough for such minimal use. |
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| 17:35.50 | cesar_CR | well I have 1.4, I just have to download compile and restart right ? |
| 17:35.50 | ManuelBG | here? |
| 17:35.59 | Carlos_PHX | I'm 50/50 on whether to upgrade one of our call processors that sees 7k+ calls/day. |
| 17:36.12 | jaytee | and you'd be using something current and not have to do an reworking for deprecated functions |
| 17:36.22 | cesar_CR | wow :D |
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| 17:36.47 | jaytee | ~pb |
| 17:36.47 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 17:36.48 | Carlos_PHX | I'm not ready to put it on the really heavy-use boxes, but that might just be 'cause I'm a sissy. |
| 17:37.33 | ManuelBG | ok wait |
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| 17:40.34 | ManuelBG | [TK]D-Fender, http://pastebin.com/m64af716d |
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| 17:40.58 | Squeeb | Hi, I'm suddely getting this error: ast_yyerror: ast_yyerror(): syntax error: syntax error, unexpected '=', expecting $end; Input: = 1 |
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| 17:41.27 | Squeeb | this is the line in quetion: exten = s,2,GotoIf($[${FOLLOWME_${ARG1}}=1]?5:3) |
| 17:41.33 | Squeeb | However, I can't see anything wrong with it |
| 17:42.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ManuelBG: Where are you located? what kind of Zap channels are those (signalling, etc) ? what hardware being used? Do any calls out them work? |
| 17:43.07 | ManxPower | Squeeb: looks like you are using Asterisk 1.2. That that true? |
| 17:43.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: NoOp(it holds "${FOLLOWME_${ARG1}}") <- and you'll see why |
| 17:43.33 | Squeeb | k |
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| 17:43.44 | Squeeb | asterisk 1.4 btw |
| 17:44.21 | ManxPower | then there must be a space in the variable or something |
| 17:44.35 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: Nope. |
| 17:44.38 | ManxPower | doing what [TK]D-Fender said will give you more info |
| 17:44.54 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: you can do variables inside of variables. |
| 17:45.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: yeah, so far thats not a problem. |
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| 17:48.02 | edoceo | In 1.6 where Zaptel is dropped will my devices that currently use Zaptel still work? |
| 17:48.25 | Squeeb | How would NoOp show me btw? |
| 17:48.29 | ManxPower | edoceo: they will not |
| 17:48.31 | Squeeb | It doens\t print to the console |
| 17:48.47 | edoceo | So I have to get new hardware?!? |
| 17:48.52 | edoceo | Dang! |
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| 17:49.02 | ManxPower | Squeeb: The noopp will tell you what the ACTUAL values of the variables are |
| 17:49.11 | ManxPower | edoceo: no, use the DAHDI drivers. |
| 17:49.31 | [TK]D-Fender | edoceo: Zaptel was renamed DAHDI for legal reasons |
| 17:49.31 | Squeeb | it hasn't told me anything |
| 17:49.37 | ManxPower | Zaptel is trademakred by some bly-by-night calling card company so Digium had to change the name |
| 17:49.46 | sp00k3y | what are the most common causes of one way audio distortion on calls through a PRI? |
| 17:49.52 | Squeeb | do I have to set some sort of debug level in console? |
| 17:50.00 | [TK]D-Fender | sp00k3y: gains running hot. |
| 17:50.01 | edoceo | Oh! So my TDM400P will still work, a rose by another name then |
| 17:50.05 | ManxPower | Squeeb: setting verbose to 3 is what you want |
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| 17:50.11 | Squeeb | k |
| 17:50.18 | ManxPower | asterisk -rvvv or "core set verbose 3" in the CLI |
| 17:50.24 | [TK]D-Fender | edoceo: Yes. At my company we get to name our salary. I named mine "Fred". |
| 17:50.35 | ManxPower | sp00k3y: not having the correct sync source |
| 17:50.36 | Squeeb | I used debug level 3 |
| 17:50.37 | Squeeb | wrong? |
| 17:50.51 | ManxPower | Squeeb: yes. wrong |
| 17:51.03 | sp00k3y | my gains are both set to 0.0 |
| 17:51.11 | sp00k3y | where do i see sync source? |
| 17:51.15 | ManxPower | at this point debug will just clutter the screen abd give us nothing useful |
| 17:51.23 | ManxPower | sp00k3y: /etc/zaptel.conf |
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| 17:51.25 | [TK]D-Fender | sp00k3y: head lower. |
| 17:51.35 | [TK]D-Fender | sp00k3y: the baseline gains may be hot from the teleco |
| 17:51.43 | Katty | lmadsen: i ended up getting a salad. |
| 17:51.53 | Zeeek | salad is good™ |
| 17:52.09 | Katty | quite. especially with crackers. |
| 17:52.15 | sp00k3y | i see well i made a ticket with them so i'll have them check that when they call back next year |
| 17:52.24 | ManxPower | Squeeb: why don't you just put that part of your dialplan on pastebin.ca and we can hold your hand while I fix it |
| 17:52.34 | Squeeb | yea . probably an idea |
| 17:52.40 | ManxPower | Usually I require dinner and drinks first, but I'll make an exception for you. |
| 17:52.42 | Squeeb | but I think it's something to do with the variable in the argument |
| 17:52.46 | Squeeb | hehe |
| 17:52.48 | [TK]D-Fender | sp00k3y: No rason you can't just make changes and test them yorself. |
| 17:52.50 | Squeeb | gimme two ticks |
| 17:53.01 | ManxPower | Squeeb: It is. That is why we have spent the last 5 mins trying to get the information we need from the noop |
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| 17:53.11 | sp00k3y | this is true, so you think i should go lower to start? |
| 17:53.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: VERBOSE, not DEBUG |
| 17:53.33 | Squeeb | http://pastebin.ca/1241745 |
| 17:53.46 | Squeeb | well |
| 17:54.04 | Squeeb | I set verbosity to 3.. but can't see where NoOp is spitting out it's detail |
| 17:54.11 | Squeeb | although I can see it being loaded into a stack |
| 17:54.22 | Squeeb | it's called once for each of the extensions in the queue |
| 17:54.23 | Zeeek | so we did talk about the whole bounty system : |
| 17:54.23 | Zeeek | http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-22622/TS-158240.mp3 |
| 17:54.26 | ManxPower | Squeeb: why are you using numbered priorities? |
| 17:54.30 | Zeeek | here's the recordede version ^^^^^ |
| 17:54.41 | Squeeb | ManxPower: various manuals used numbered priorities |
| 17:54.46 | Squeeb | I tend to just "n" everything |
| 17:54.48 | ManxPower | And I said the PART of your dialplan. |
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| 17:54.51 | ManuelBG | in mexico, use 21 digital trunks in a E1 from telmex in a TE122 digium card, and yesterday stopped making calls |
| 17:55.01 | Squeeb | ManxPower: I know, but I'm unsure as to where the arguments are being set |
| 17:55.12 | Squeeb | it's in macro-stexten |
| 17:55.13 | ManxPower | Squeeb: so not only am I going to have to try to fix your diaplan, but I'll renumber the priorites too |
| 17:55.17 | Squeeb | line 36 |
| 17:55.28 | ManxPower | Squeeb: stop thinking. Just follow directions |
| 17:55.33 | jaytee | OMG! that mp3 rocks!!! I wonder if Sam Goody has the CD in stock? |
| 17:55.35 | Squeeb | I could do with learning really |
| 17:56.10 | Zeeek | and here is the recorded versions of all the conferences: http://bit.ly/voiprecorded |
| 17:56.10 | ManxPower | Squeeb: you are not going to learn anything until I know what the problem is. |
| 17:56.21 | Katty | jaytee: what mp3? |
| 17:56.29 | Zeeek | I vas chust folloving ordersss |
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| 17:56.59 | Katty | oo, talkshoe |
| 17:57.00 | Katty | listens |
| 17:57.03 | jaytee | Katty, the VOIP conference |
| 17:57.04 | Zeeek | Katty, I wish you a happy and prosperous Halloween |
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| 17:57.19 | Zeeek | I'l tellin' ya, it's a hit |
| 17:57.19 | Katty | Zeeek: oh thank you. |
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| 17:57.28 | Katty | jaytee: oh ;) |
| 17:57.30 | sp00k3y | see the thing is it doesnt happen every call |
| 17:57.31 | Katty | Zeeek: i'm sure it is |
| 17:57.34 | Zeeek | You're Velcro |
| 17:57.40 | sp00k3y | it happens very randomly |
| 17:57.40 | Zeeek | Velcome |
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| 17:57.44 | Zeeek | Welcome |
| 17:57.44 | ziram19 | someone can tells me if this is ok? exten=_7XXXXXXX,1,Set(SIP_CODEC=g711) |
| 17:57.57 | sp00k3y | if it was the gains wouldnt it happen on every call? |
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| 17:58.09 | Squeeb | SIP/6002|20| <-- It's dialing this extension on line 3 of stdext |
| 17:58.16 | Squeeb | Is that 2nd | meant to be there? |
| 17:58.22 | ManxPower | Squeeb: http://pastebin.ca/1241748 |
| 17:58.25 | *** part/#asterisk Zeeek (n=Zeeek@pdpc/supporter/active/Zeeek) |
| 17:59.48 | Squeeb | k |
| 17:59.48 | ManxPower | Squeeb: If you want my help stop flying around like a huimming bird and let me help you |
| 17:59.48 | Katty | bzzzz! |
| 17:59.48 | ziram19 | does Set (SIP_CODEC=xxx) ? |
| 17:59.48 | ManxPower | I've been using Asterism for 7 years. I've done this stuff before. |
| 17:59.48 | bangolio | where can i get help installing asterisk for the first time? the docs on the site didnt help |
| 17:59.48 | Katty | jbot: my first pbx? |
| 17:59.52 | Katty | go figure. |
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| 17:59.55 | ManxPower | ziram19: not G711. ulaw or alaw |
| 17:59.59 | Squeeb | ok |
| 18:00.02 | Squeeb | asterisk's gone into a loop |
| 18:00.08 | ManxPower | and it only works for outgoing calls |
| 18:00.11 | Squeeb | and is now flooding my screen |
| 18:00.39 | ManxPower | Squeeb: that is what sometimes happens if you have a bad dialplan. Easy to do when using numbered priorities |
| 18:01.10 | ManxPower | yup, the goto on priority 3 needs to be upated too. |
| 18:01.21 | ManxPower | It's been years since I've used numbered priorities |
| 18:01.34 | jaytee | numbered priorities=evil lurking in the shadows waiting to pounce |
| 18:01.42 | Squeeb | 6:4 |
| 18:01.50 | Katty | numbered priorities? |
| 18:01.54 | Katty | 1,1? |
| 18:01.56 | Squeeb | ManxPower: you using labeled priorities? |
| 18:01.58 | ManxPower | Squeeb: http://pastebin.ca/1241751 |
| 18:02.05 | Katty | as opposed to s,1? |
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| 18:02.13 | ManxPower | Squeeb: Everyone uses n and labeled priorities |
| 18:02.16 | Squeeb | ah |
| 18:02.18 | Squeeb | Everyone |
| 18:02.24 | Squeeb | It's not cool to use numbers any more? :P |
| 18:02.26 | [TK]D-Fender | numbered priorities = great. People = stupid :) |
| 18:02.26 | ManxPower | the only ones that don't are old and outdated examples on the web |
| 18:02.45 | Squeeb | Ok |
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| 18:02.51 | Squeeb | with that dialplan updated, I get the same on screen |
| 18:02.53 | ManxPower | there is your pastebin |
| 18:02.55 | Squeeb | same output |
| 18:03.10 | Carlos_PHX | Shakes uncotrollably at thought of taking over a system with numbered priorities. |
| 18:03.23 | Katty | Carlos_PHX: /comfort |
| 18:03.29 | ManxPower | Squeeb: then put a copy of that macro on pastebin.ca and I'll find wher you screwed up |
| 18:03.33 | Katty | i think ihave numbered priorities in the IVR |
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| 18:03.47 | Katty | maybe my definition of number priorities is off. |
| 18:03.50 | Squeeb | want me to pastebin the output? |
| 18:04.16 | Squeeb | http://pastebin.ca/1241754 |
| 18:04.24 | ManxPower | no, I want you to pastebin the macro so I can figure out what is different about that you have from what I gave you on http://pastebin.ca/1241751 |
| 18:04.43 | ManxPower | Squeeb: I did not ask for that. |
| 18:04.51 | Squeeb | I thought it would help |
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| 18:05.04 | ManxPower | Squeeb: It will LATER IN THIS TROUBLESHOOTING |
| 18:05.19 | ManxPower | I think you may be too scatterbrained for me to help you. Perhaps [TK]D-Fender can help you. |
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| 18:06.09 | ManxPower | This whole "jumping ahead of the person trying to help you" must stop if you want my help |
| 18:06.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: -- Executing [s@macro-stdexten:2] NoOp("Local/6003@default-f57a,2", "variable value is ") in new stack <-- your value is BLANK therefor there is nothing on the left side of the "+" sign |
| 18:06.32 | ManxPower | Not only are you distracting yourself, you are distracting me. |
| 18:06.33 | [TK]D-Fender | "=" |
| 18:06.40 | Squeeb | ah |
| 18:06.52 | Katty | i'm so scatter brained, not many people can help me |
| 18:07.05 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: and he didn't even use my macro. I give up. |
| 18:07.06 | ReDNeQ | happy halloween all |
| 18:07.10 | Squeeb | ManxPower: |
| 18:07.11 | [TK]D-Fender | gets some duct tape and gets to work on Humpty |
| 18:07.14 | Squeeb | I copied and pasted your macro |
| 18:07.16 | Katty | and then i find out i typed a comma somewhere |
| 18:07.18 | Squeeb | and dialplan reload'd |
| 18:07.19 | jaytee | thinks Katty isn't being fair to herself |
| 18:07.36 | Katty | inserts random commas in jaytee's dialplan |
| 18:07.40 | ManxPower | Squeeb: My macro did not have the string "variable value is" anywhere in it!!! |
| 18:08.02 | ManxPower | In any case you're on your own now. |
| 18:08.05 | Squeeb | http://pastebin.ca/1241751 |
| 18:08.09 | Squeeb | Line 3 |
| 18:08.14 | Squeeb | exten = s,2,Noop(variable value is ${FOLLOWME_${ARG!}} |
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| 18:08.27 | Qwell | ARG!? |
| 18:08.34 | jameswf | s/commas/pipes/ to be difficult and reject change |
| 18:08.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: Definitely helps when you can type... |
| 18:08.55 | Squeeb | Thus, your macro DOES have the string "Variable value is" 'anywhere' in it. |
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| 18:09.24 | ManxPower | Squeeb: A perfect example of me being distracted. |
| 18:09.32 | ManxPower | So, someone ELSE can help you. |
| 18:09.36 | Squeeb | Indeed. |
| 18:09.41 | Squeeb | most unhelpful. Thankyou. |
| 18:09.42 | Squeeb | so |
| 18:09.46 | Squeeb | [TK]D-Fender: .. how do you mean? |
| 18:10.15 | Katty | oh boy. |
| 18:10.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb>exten = s,2,Noop(variable value is ${FOLLOWME_${ARG!}} <- I mean you shouldn't have an EXCLAMATION MARK in your variable name. |
| 18:10.31 | Squeeb | it wasn't there in my macro :P |
| 18:10.42 | Carlos_PHX | Popcorn |
| 18:10.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: I jsut cut&pasted that from your pastebin. |
| 18:10.50 | Katty | steals some popcorn. |
| 18:10.58 | Squeeb | that was ManxPower's pastebin |
| 18:11.11 | Squeeb | Mine has ARG1 |
| 18:11.20 | lesouvage | Squeeb: the ! is just a typo, change it into ARG1 |
| 18:11.22 | jameswf | is this how allison does her nails? http://nerdvittles.com/wp-images/clk.jpg |
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| 18:11.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: Well the value is NULL either way. |
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| 18:11.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: Which kills your test |
| 18:11.51 | Squeeb | Cool |
| 18:11.52 | Squeeb | will try now |
| 18:12.09 | rob0 | james, 403 |
| 18:12.14 | Carlos_PHX | 403 |
| 18:12.19 | Katty | jameswf: :< |
| 18:12.24 | mchou | I'm using linksys pap2 with asterisk. In my asterisk dialplan I set my outbound caller ID. Is there a way to (temporaily) disable the callerID processing by asterisk, like by dialing *67 on the handset? |
| 18:12.37 | jameswf | http://nerdvittles.com first article |
| 18:12.45 | Squeeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.48 | Squeeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.51 | Squeeb | Whoops |
| 18:12.52 | Squeeb | but yea |
| 18:12.55 | Squeeb | still getting that |
| 18:12.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: Which will kill your expression |
| 18:13.00 | Squeeb | but I have to go home now, it seems |
| 18:13.02 | Squeeb | yea |
| 18:13.09 | Squeeb | Will try and sort it tomorrow |
| 18:13.12 | Squeeb | thanks for your help |
| 18:13.16 | edoceo | jameswf: Wow! I had to build an extension for FF to integrate with my Twinkle, but that looks easier |
| 18:13.32 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: "core show application setcallerpres" |
| 18:13.44 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: "core show function CALLERID" |
| 18:13.57 | jameswf | I use moziax it is intigrated in to firefox... |
| 18:14.12 | *** join/#asterisk Daejeo (n=chatzill@116.126.121.167) |
| 18:14.20 | Daejeo | greetings |
| 18:15.05 | Katty | ohai |
| 18:15.22 | Daejeo | oh my friend Katt |
| 18:15.33 | Daejeo | y |
| 18:15.37 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: there is no way to do this from the handset alone (and not "touching" asterisk)? |
| 18:15.58 | Daejeo | :) |
| 18:16.03 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: Do you not set CID in your peer? |
| 18:16.04 | Squeeb | where would the FOLLOWME_ variable be being set? |
| 18:16.16 | *** join/#asterisk anthm (n=anthm@freeswitch/developer/anthm) |
| 18:16.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Squeeb: Where do you get the impression that a variable like that SHOULD be set anywhree else? |
| 18:16.44 | Squeeb | Because I don't understand it's meaning |
| 18:16.54 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: no, I actually set it from the dialplan itself, iirc |
| 18:16.55 | Squeeb | gonna have to go anyway |
| 18:16.57 | Squeeb | will speak when I get home |
| 18:17.14 | Daejeo | Katty: when did you start playing with *? |
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| 18:17.48 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: what are you trying to mask, the ATA to the next leg, or out your PSTN connection? |
| 18:17.54 | mchou | [TK]D-Fender: reason I do that is cause I have different outbound trunks... |
| 18:18.04 | [TK]D-Fender | mchou: then this IS dialplan specific |
| 18:18.44 | mchou | well, that sucks :( |
| 18:21.16 | jjshoe | it would be fun to force everyone to draw diagrams to get help, that way it might make sense :D |
| 18:21.17 | DaveWelsh | I have a Switchvox SMB AA60, but this is a gerneric Asterisk question, I think. I have a TDM800P 8-FXO with hardware echo cancellation. At first I had software echo cancellation on too and that was making the other party's voice cut out anytime I made the slightest sound. Now the software echo cancellation is turned off and I don't have that problem, but I hear my own voice echoing back now. Is hardware echo cancellation supposed |
| 18:21.17 | DaveWelsh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:25.11 | [TK]D-Fender | DaveWelsh: What phones? |
| 18:25.33 | [TK]D-Fender | DaveWelsh: this can be an AEC issue with them or side-tone |
| 18:26.22 | bangolio | where can i get installation help? |
| 18:26.37 | [TK]D-Fender | bangolio: For? |
| 18:26.53 | DaveWelsh | [TK]D-Fender: Polycom Soundpoint IP 550s |
| 18:26.59 | bangolio | asterisk, first time, having trouble, things didnt go too smoothly |
| 18:27.10 | [TK]D-Fender | bangolio: What errors? |
| 18:27.24 | bangolio | sec, i'll log on from the other machine |
| 18:27.49 | [TK]D-Fender | DaveWelsh: Those have been known to be a little "hot" as provisioned by default. Because your GUI likely did this for you I'd advise getting support from SwitchVox first |
| 18:30.17 | lmadsen | Katty: I like salads! I ended up getting a couple of veggie wraps from subway since I was out anyways |
| 18:30.49 | wacky__ | could anyone validate that the new/default/whatever way to separate parameters in Dialplan applications is now and forever the comma "," character ? |
| 18:31.09 | wacky__ | I see '|' everywhere, and I've been told that '|' was now deprecated.. |
| 18:31.13 | [TK]D-Fender | wacky__: Now, yes, forever, we're only psychic on TUESDAYS |
| 18:31.29 | wacky__ | but I see that everywhere in Asterisk's own doc some | all over the place |
| 18:31.35 | wacky__ | in 1.6.0.1 |
| 18:31.41 | rob0 | but we're psychotic on days which end in "y" |
| 18:32.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Enfin, c'est vendredi, on n'est plus fou! |
| 18:32.12 | [TK]D-Fender | :p |
| 18:32.21 | *** join/#asterisk bango|io (n=bangolio@87.69.126.92) |
| 18:32.27 | wacky__ | also for the GotoIfTime application, it's quite confusing.. because you need ',' to separate the destination of the Goto, and pipes (but don't we standardize around ',' ?) for the date parameterse |
| 18:32.28 | DaveWelsh | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks. I didn't know the individual phones had echo settings. I now realize that my Switchvox provisioned phones sound better than the ones I provisioned myself with my own ftp server. (I did that so I could add ringtones since I can't access the Switchvox cfg files) |
| 18:33.02 | [TK]D-Fender | DaveWelsh: Highly configurable... |
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| 18:33.36 | ManxPower | wacky__: Obviously not all docs have been updated |
| 18:34.29 | bango|io | ok, ubuntu here, installed it through the synaptic pkg manager. didnt know what to do next, followed site instructions, got erros after "make clean" and "make install" |
| 18:34.34 | jaytee | speaking of docs, all the files in the doc folder in the 1.6 tarball are now in .tex format. When I run make docs does it compile them into pdf or html? |
| 18:34.48 | bango|io | do you still want me to paste em? |
| 18:34.54 | lmadsen | jaytee: it should if you have the right deps |
| 18:35.09 | ManxPower | jaytee: Welcome to Asterisk "we make things harder" 1.6 |
| 18:35.17 | ManxPower | lmadsen: what deps are required? |
| 18:35.18 | Carlos_PHX | Something useful for us Firefox users with ADD: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9187 |
| 18:35.28 | jaytee | lmadsen, any easy way to convert a single tex file without having to extract the whole thing and run make? |
| 18:35.31 | lmadsen | ManxPower: no idea... probably something that converts tex to pdf/html :) |
| 18:35.37 | lmadsen | has zero idea |
| 18:35.51 | ManxPower | lmadsen: An excellent way to make sure the docs are not read. |
| 18:36.15 | lmadsen | shrugs as he didn't convert them, and has nothing to do with it, so don't bitch in my general direction |
| 18:36.18 | ManxPower | LaTEX makes Emacs look small and fast. |
| 18:36.38 | ManxPower | lmadsen: I'll bitch about when I'm at Digium in 2 weeks |
| 18:38.03 | jaytee | ManxPower, you're gonna be in Huntsville in 2 weeks? What days? |
| 18:38.28 | ManxPower | jaytee: I should be auditing the Advanced Asterisk Class whenever that is |
| 18:38.43 | jaytee | I'm taking it on the 10th through the 15th |
| 18:39.46 | ManxPower | 10th - 14th, yes that is the one. |
| 18:40.18 | jaytee | cool! it'll be great to actually meet you in person. |
| 18:40.37 | ManxPower | I still need to get confirmation from Digium |
| 18:41.14 | Carlos_PHX | ManxPower: Be sure to get them to take you to Beuregard's for the atomic wings. |
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| 18:41.40 | ManxPower | Carlos_PHX: I live a 2 hr drive from Digium and the lunches are catered |
| 18:41.42 | jaytee | I love hot wings |
| 18:41.54 | ManxPower | I'm not much into eating bird arms |
| 18:41.56 | jjshoe | I love red wings |
| 18:41.59 | jjshoe | eeerrrr. oops. |
| 18:42.08 | lmadsen | jjshoe: o.O |
| 18:42.13 | ManxPower | jjshoe: Canadian, eh? |
| 18:42.20 | rob0 | Goldwings |
| 18:42.22 | jjshoe | ManxPower wrong red wings. |
| 18:42.33 | lmadsen | ManxPower: and the Red Wings are from Detroit |
| 18:42.47 | lmadsen | knows what jjshoe is talking about... unfortunately :) |
| 18:42.51 | jaytee | I had some breaded hot wings at Hooters in Plano, TX they called "Bentleys" but I've never seen them on the menu at any other Hooters. They were sooooo good. |
| 18:42.52 | ManxPower | lmadsen: Obviously I'm not Canadian or I'd have known that. 8-) |
| 18:42.53 | jjshoe | lmadsen :P |
| 18:43.49 | ManxPower | jaytee: I helped as a lab assistant at the Asterisk Fast Start class recently. I expect i'll be doing the same with the advanced class. |
| 18:44.19 | ziram19 | help |
| 18:44.27 | *** part/#asterisk kfife (n=Miranda@home.chicagoventure.com) |
| 18:44.35 | ziram19 | does Set(SIP_CODEC=g711) works? |
| 18:44.41 | ziram19 | it seems no |
| 18:44.56 | ManxPower | ziram19: It never workd, as G711 is NOT an Asterisk codec! |
| 18:45.15 | ManxPower | Can you guess what codec you need in there? |
| 18:46.08 | ziram19 | in general section in sip.conf i have g729,G723,ulaw,alaw |
| 18:46.19 | ManxPower | there are the codecs you can use |
| 18:46.21 | ziram19 | so my sip call is ok |
| 18:46.31 | ManxPower | I strongly suggest not using G723.1 |
| 18:46.50 | ziram19 | ok g729 is ok for me |
| 18:46.54 | ManxPower | SIP_CODEC=alaw or SIP_CODEC=ulaw |
| 18:47.07 | ManxPower | ziram19: how many G729 licenses do you have? |
| 18:47.25 | ziram19 | but the pb that when i call from the same sip with zap channel is not work |
| 18:47.48 | ziram19 | and i would tell asterisk to use ulaw for a particular extension |
| 18:47.52 | ManxPower | ziram19: that would be because you don't have any G739 licenses |
| 18:47.59 | ManxPower | or G729 too |
| 18:48.02 | jaytee | suspects the guy who coded the g723.1 codec used to work for Contadina putting those 8 great tomatoes in that little bitty can. |
| 18:48.39 | ManxPower | ziram19: I think maybe you should read the Asterisk book. |
| 18:48.42 | ManxPower | ~book |
| 18:48.42 | jbot | it has been said that book is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook |
| 18:48.53 | ziram19 | my provider supports G729 |
| 18:49.08 | jaytee | G739! oooh, 128kbps with Dolby 5.1 surround sound. |
| 18:49.23 | ziram19 | so i read in that book that i can use g729 in mode passthrough |
| 18:49.44 | ziram19 | and it works |
| 18:50.09 | ziram19 | my pb that i want to use a different codec for a different extension? |
| 18:50.20 | ManxPower | ziram19: Correct. But you can't passthru a zap call to a G729 endpoint as that requires transcoding. also all your asterisk prompts and voicemail would have to be in G729 as well. Also Asterisk can't do DTMF based features.conf stuff because all that stuff requires transcoding |
| 18:50.37 | *** join/#asterisk ACK-NAK (n=Miranda@home.chicagoventure.com) |
| 18:51.01 | ManxPower | ziram19: SIP_CODEC only works for OUTGOING calls, not INCOMING calls. By the time the incoming call gets to the dialplan the codec is already set |
| 18:51.46 | ziram19 | even on outgoing call it is not work |
| 18:52.25 | ManxPower | ziram19: what error message do you get? |
| 18:52.55 | ziram19 | can not find translator or a thing like that |
| 18:53.31 | *** join/#asterisk Inverted (n=codya@staff2.aus.datafoundry.com) |
| 18:53.31 | ManxPower | correct. That is because Asterisk had to transcode that call. |
| 18:53.51 | ManxPower | do you have something like T/t/W/t/r on your Dial line. All of those require transcoding |
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| 19:00.14 | ziram19 | when i can check that? |
| 19:00.45 | Katty | i think i'm getting sick |
| 19:02.23 | ManxPower | ziram19: In your Dialplan. |
| 19:02.32 | bangolio | where can i get installation help? |
| 19:02.48 | *** join/#asterisk MrNaz (n=mrnaz@ppp118-208-215-3.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 19:03.45 | jameswf | ~ask |
| 19:03.46 | jbot | from memory, ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 19:03.46 | ziram19 | no at all |
| 19:04.01 | *** join/#asterisk newmember (n=chatzill@static-66-11-81-77.ptr.terago.net) |
| 19:04.09 | Katty | on topic? |
| 19:04.14 | Katty | now let's not be riddicurus. |
| 19:06.06 | bangolio | ok, ubuntu here, installed it through the synaptic pkg manager. didnt know what to do next, followed site instructions, got erros after "make clean" and "make install" |
| 19:06.15 | lmadsen | wow... my hair is huge! |
| 19:06.26 | jameswf | uhhh |
| 19:06.40 | ManxPower | bangolio: You would have to talk to the person that made the package. |
| 19:06.52 | jameswf | For hallowen I am going as aWindows user! |
| 19:07.08 | ManxPower | bangolio: You should read the Asterisk Book before you do much else. |
| 19:07.09 | ManxPower | ~book |
| 19:07.10 | jbot | hmm... book is Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook |
| 19:07.10 | jaytee | a blue screen with a cryptic error message? |
| 19:07.36 | ManxPower | jaytee: maybe he could just randomly fall over and die? |
| 19:08.16 | ManuelBG | can someone help me? |
| 19:08.25 | Katty | i'm not a licensed therapist. |
| 19:08.40 | jaytee | it really irritates me that I have to go to a third party site to find links to a KB article regarding a particular blue screen windows stop error because I can't get any hits when using Microsoft's own search engine on their site. |
| 19:08.53 | bangolio | i tried installing with the instructions on the site |
| 19:09.00 | bangolio | that's what generated the error |
| 19:09.14 | ManxPower | bangolio: what instructions on what site? |
| 19:09.19 | bangolio | asterisk.org |
| 19:09.20 | Katty | bangolio: what version of asterisk are you trying to setup? |
| 19:09.25 | *** join/#asterisk ziram19_ (n=chatzill@196.203.110.104) |
| 19:09.27 | bangolio | 1.6.0.1 |
| 19:09.30 | ManxPower | bangolio: give me the URL and I'll look at it. |
| 19:09.41 | Katty | i'm betting dependencies. |
| 19:09.48 | ManxPower | and exactly what error are you getting. |
| 19:09.51 | ManuelBG | im in mexico, use 21 digital trunks in a E1 from telmex in a TE122 digium card, and yesterday stopped making calls |
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| 19:10.03 | ManxPower | Katty: if so either the docs are wrong or he didn't read it all. |
| 19:10.03 | ManuelBG | my pastebin http://pastebin.com/m64af716d |
| 19:10.04 | bangolio | http://www.asterisk.org/support |
| 19:10.42 | ManxPower | bangolio: Don't you mean http://www.asterisk.org/support/install |
| 19:11.30 | ManxPower | bangolio: And do you have ncurses, and associated -devel, openssl, and associated -devel, zlib, and associated -devel installed? |
| 19:11.55 | ManxPower | bangolio: you really should read the install directions in the 1.6.x source code, the Digium site is *gasp* out of date |
| 19:12.00 | jameswf | my Ibex is intrepid... I tell you what |
| 19:12.06 | ManxPower | there are more steps for 1.6 |
| 19:12.19 | bangolio | would 1.4 be easier? |
| 19:12.38 | Qwell | the steps for 1.6 are the same as 1.4... |
| 19:12.44 | ManxPower | bangolio: no idea. Even with 1.4 you should read the install directions inclulded with the tarball |
| 19:12.53 | bango|io | oic :| |
| 19:13.21 | ManxPower | Qwell: http://www.asterisk.org/support/install makes NO metion of make menuconfig or whatever that silly menu thing is, It also does not mention configure. |
| 19:13.26 | ManxPower | and the example is for 1.2 |
| 19:13.34 | ManxPower | You steller marketing people are at it again. |
| 19:13.38 | Katty | bangolio: not really |
| 19:13.46 | Katty | bangolio: here are the packages i apt-get beforehand |
| 19:13.50 | Katty | bangolio: http://angela.sleekgeek.org/2008/10/31/libpri-asterisk-addons-dahdi-wanpipe-dependencies/ |
| 19:13.56 | Katty | bangolio: not all of them are required, of course. |
| 19:13.57 | ManxPower | (they are the ones that manage the web site, as far as I know) |
| 19:14.19 | ManxPower | Are people SCARED of reading the included docs? |
| 19:15.08 | Katty | bangolio: http://angela.sleekgeek.org/2008/10/29/compiling-asterisk-14-with-dahdi-20-and-sangoma-3314-with-a-sangoma-a102-card/ <- you might find that useful too |
| 19:15.13 | bango|io | nah, i just thought i could count on the site instructions |
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| 19:15.35 | ManxPower | bangolio: You would think that would be enough. |
| 19:15.52 | [TK]D-Fender | bango|io: You should have been able to. |
| 19:16.06 | Katty | ManxPower: i have to dumb it down a lot in case someone has to setup a server in my absence |
| 19:16.11 | bango|io | yay! sympathy! :D |
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| 19:16.43 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: Sad when even Digium's web site only has instructions for an unmaintained release |
| 19:16.51 | [TK]D-Fender | bango|io: You've burned all your karma on that.... careful, you're running on empty as of this point |
| 19:17.07 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: I'd probably volunteer for it if I could |
| 19:17.13 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: how do i get rid of nausea? |
| 19:17.25 | Katty | rubbing alchohol! |
| 19:17.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: as it is I seem to be the one keeping this place's topic in oder :) |
| 19:17.27 | Katty | disappears |
| 19:17.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: expulsion |
| 19:17.40 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: Last I heard the website was managed by the marketing people. |
| 19:17.49 | tzafrir_laptop | Katty, so have you got any patches to the install_prereq scripts? |
| 19:17.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: It'll suck for 5 mins tops, then massive improvement |
| 19:18.08 | tzafrir_laptop | have you tried using them? Do they get anything wrong? |
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| 19:21.23 | Katty | this salad is really kicking my tail |
| 19:21.30 | Katty | or maybe i'm just getting sick |
| 19:21.42 | Katty | tzafrir_laptop: and no. tho something could easily be written with apt-get i think |
| 19:21.47 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: add "http://www.asterisk.org/support/install is out of date don't use it" to the /topic. |
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| 19:22.14 | Katty | you can just copy off the blog and dump it somewhere if you want |
| 19:23.00 | tzafrir_laptop | Katty, it's in the sources of asterisk, zaptel and dahdi |
| 19:23.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: could be e.coli from the lettuce |
| 19:23.33 | tzafrir_laptop | (not the e.coli, install_prereq) |
| 19:24.08 | Katty | tzafrir_laptop: that list is just a personal reference |
| 19:24.08 | tzafrir_laptop | I just wonder if they actually work |
| 19:24.18 | Katty | tzafrir_laptop: not all of it is required |
| 19:24.31 | Katty | tzafrir_laptop: i do extra things like asterisk-stat with pgsql and vsftpd and such |
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| 19:25.15 | tzafrir_laptop | I wonder how to express optional features in insall_prereq |
| 19:26.07 | Katty | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.11 | Katty | checkout? |
| 19:27.06 | Katty | apt-get. |
| 19:27.18 | Katty | well just edit the script |
| 19:27.37 | Katty | PACKAGES_DEBIAN="moo foo boo" |
| 19:28.01 | Katty | or are you wanting it to prompt you? |
| 19:28.21 | *** join/#asterisk StephenF[W] (n=none@198.144.201.106) |
| 19:29.01 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: spearmint seems to be helping, oddly enough |
| 19:29.21 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i'd be willing to wager i'm running a fever tho :/ |
| 19:29.29 | StephenF[W] | where should I start looking if external IVRs are not recognizing my digit presses on their IVRs |
| 19:31.11 | Katty | StephenF[W]: i'd look at the CLI first and see what it's tell you when you hit a number. |
| 19:31.13 | ManxPower | StephenF[W]: SIP or Zap/DAHDI? |
| 19:31.36 | StephenF[W] | hmm, ok |
| 19:31.44 | StephenF[W] | now i need to pick a company to test on |
| 19:32.05 | StephenF[W] | ManxPower SIP |
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| 19:32.27 | ManxPower | StephenF[W]: That could be very hard to fix. |
| 19:32.33 | ManxPower | TK is the SIP guy here |
| 19:32.43 | StephenF[W] | hmm |
| 19:33.03 | [TK]D-Fender | LOL |
| 19:33.48 | ManxPower | With zap it's trivial, just increase your toneduration |
| 19:34.17 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you should be ashamed for saying E. Coli to me. |
| 19:34.17 | StephenF[W] | it works sometimes |
| 19:34.24 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you know how i worry about things! |
| 19:34.34 | Katty | StephenF[W]: are you using Wait or WaitExten? |
| 19:35.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: I'm saving yo the normal effort of hypochondria by having something quite real to worry about :) |
| 19:35.06 | StephenF[W] | Katty: this is for outgoing calls, to other companies like ATT for example |
| 19:35.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: and I am SHAMELESS. |
| 19:35.14 | Katty | StephenF[W]: oh, right. |
| 19:35.15 | Katty | StephenF[W]: nevermind. |
| 19:35.28 | StephenF[W] | thanks anyway :) |
| 19:35.30 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you really are. especially since i ate spinach for lunch. |
| 19:36.02 | anonymouz666 | ok, it's time to watch sponge bob. |
| 19:36.03 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: i'm going to worry for the rest of the afternoon |
| 19:36.08 | Katty | anonymouz666: cya (= |
| 19:36.33 | anonymouz666 | cya |
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| 19:37.15 | StephenF[W] | Does anyone know what you would call a number that when called just repeats your incoming caller id? |
| 19:37.46 | StephenF[W] | i've seen some phone techs use it, they hook up to a line pair and dial a certain number that just repeats back the number of the pair they are on |
| 19:37.48 | bkruse | tzafrir_laptop: The early GUI uses zapscan, now it uses ztscan (which detects both digital and analog) |
| 19:38.11 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: thatd be a "thing that reads me back my callerid number...." |
| 19:38.26 | StephenF[W] | lol, awesome. I jsut needed the technical term. Now I can search for it |
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| 19:42.13 | [TK]D-Fender | StephenF[W]: I personally call it "my cellphone" |
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| 19:46.29 | StephenF[W] | [TK]D-Fender yea thats what I usually do, but it was pretty slick when the phone tech used it. |
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| 19:46.44 | StephenF[W] | i forgot to ask him for it though, oh well |
| 19:46.59 | ManxPower | 985-246-3704 Options: 90=Quiet Line, 91=Echo Test, 92=Milliwatt, 93=Caller*ID Readback (after all local calleris munging happens) |
| 19:48.41 | StephenF[W] | ManxPower is that your * box? |
| 19:49.29 | ManxPower | StephenF[W]: one of mant |
| 19:49.32 | ManxPower | many |
| 19:49.37 | StephenF[W] | nice |
| 19:49.57 | StephenF[W] | im thinking of making a similar system on our * here, i just need to find a cheap incoming DID |
| 19:50.24 | StephenF[W] | we do alot of DSL installs and having that as a local # will be helpfull |
| 19:50.44 | ManxPower | the number is on a PRI in Louisiana |
| 19:51.01 | WHYS | I'm just working on connecting 7960's with SCCP. Can I have them redirect the RTP stream so as to not load down * ? |
| 19:51.53 | ManxPower | WHYS: Yes. But you can't do any transcoding, features.conf DTMF codes, and no NAT involved |
| 19:52.05 | StephenF[W] | anyone used these guys before: http://www.voicenetwork.ca |
| 19:52.18 | ManxPower | ~itsplist |
| 19:52.27 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower: SCCP supports reinvites, and *'s implementation as well? |
| 19:52.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ~itsplist-us |
| 19:52.34 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net |
| 19:53.13 | ManxPower | [TK]D-Fender: I doubt it |
| 19:53.18 | WHYS | I'm new to * and very new to SCCP. I'm just looking to offload vanila phone traffic. I just wanted to have an idea before I got to far into this. Thanks. |
| 19:53.30 | ManxPower | WHYS: you should use SIP if you can |
| 19:53.35 | [TK]D-Fender | WHYS: I wouldn't bet on it. |
| 19:53.50 | WHYS | Yeah, but sip can't use all the features of the phone. |
| 19:54.22 | WHYS | I want to replace call manager without anyone knowing the difference. |
| 19:54.26 | [TK]D-Fender | WHYS: If not, then it likely isn't a feature of the phone, but that's semantics for you... |
| 19:54.35 | WHYS | :) |
| 19:54.53 | ManxPower | WHYS: SCCP can't use all the features of the phone either. |
| 19:55.16 | WHYS | what do I get with sip over sccp? |
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| 19:55.42 | [TK]D-Fender | WHYS: a channel driver that doesn't crash like a Cessna 172 for starters.... |
| 19:55.47 | ManxPower | Other people use SIP. The sip channel driver is stable and supported. The SCCP stuff doesn't seem to work well |
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| 19:56.23 | WHYS | good to know. I've only tested one phone, but it seems to work well. I didn't know about crashes. |
| 19:56.27 | ManxPower | I don't think Asterisk's SCCP even supports NAT. You would have to check, it's been a while since I looked at it. |
| 19:56.49 | [TK]D-Fender | WHYS: Try it out.... but forget about your users not knowing the difference... |
| 19:57.00 | ManxPower | Go ahead and use SCCP -- just remember almost nobody will be able to help you. |
| 19:57.14 | WHYS | This is all inhouse for a university. All phone on the inside of hte network |
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| 19:58.20 | WHYS | I've heard that cisco has a generic/bare sip image, without support for the quick dial buttons |
| 19:58.26 | rednul | I have a setup where I am connecting multiple sip trunks to the same ip/port (i am running asterisk 1.2) .. my outbound calls on any but the first trunk that registers does not work... what options might I try to get this scenario to work? :) |
| 19:59.25 | ACK-NAK | > |
| 19:59.28 | ACK-NAK | Problem: When party A hangs up from the IVR, I want * to call party B and C and connect them together. How would you do this? |
| 19:59.43 | ACK-NAK | Seems like Dial assumes I already have one leg |
| 20:00.06 | Qwell | ACK-NAK: you wouldn't be in the dialplan if you didn't have 1 leg |
| 20:00.09 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: Where are B & C ? Who's IVR? |
| 20:00.42 | ACK-NAK | Qwell: in my case they're local channels |
| 20:00.59 | ACK-NAK | Qwell: You're exactly right though. In my case, the trigger is the hangup of party A |
| 20:01.31 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: And how does * know that B & C have anything to do with each other? What is everyone doing? |
| 20:02.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: And so far there is no "party". That implies some sort of relationship between these channels... there certainly doesn't seem to be any |
| 20:03.06 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: Right! It's an ill-fit for the dialplan architecture as far as I can wrap my head around it. |
| 20:03.37 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: Let us know when you have anything substantial to base any kind of decision on. |
| 20:04.32 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: Let me know when you have any reason to suspect it's a bad idea :-). Basically B and C are foreign legacy systems that need to have some some commands sent to them. |
| 20:05.10 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: Problem is so far How is * supposed to know that B & C are to be merged? |
| 20:05.25 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: I have done something similar. |
| 20:05.41 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: I don't see any solid identifiers |
| 20:06.22 | ManxPower | Person calls from the PSTN to a DID after hours. The call is sent out via Zap to a different office. If there is no answer at the other office, the other office hangs up, asterisk in the original office takes over (as the Dial exited) and sends the call to a local IVR |
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| 20:06.35 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: It's a business decision that every time circumstance X happens with party A, upon disconnect of party A from the IVR, foreign system B will want to send some commands to foreign system C. |
| 20:07.04 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: It's a total hack of B and C, but the fact that I can do this with * is nothing short of amazing |
| 20:07.17 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: For any real advise your going to have to paint a properly detailed scenario |
| 20:08.55 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: Please elaborate on the ambiguities remaining. After completioin of call A qualified by X, system B needs to talk to system C. |
| 20:09.07 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: Everything works fine up to B talking to C |
| 20:09.26 | ACK-NAK | IT seems like it woudl be trivial with Dial, but I can only dial 1 thing, not 2 |
| 20:09.54 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: all 3 connected at the same time? How? How does * know to identify A vs B vs C. "connect" how? Anything to disengage? If so, do systems call back in, etc |
| 20:10.08 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: of course you can dial 2 things. This is just dialplan stuff. |
| 20:10.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: Is * calling OUT to B & C to bridge them? |
| 20:10.32 | ManxPower | I'm assuming that B and C are always the same extension, of cousre. |
| 20:10.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ~assume |
| 20:10.49 | jbot | About assumptions : http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Long_Kiss_Goodnight"e=assume.txt&file=assume.wav It makes an (ass) out of (u) and (me) |
| 20:11.13 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: ManxPower: Correct. But Dial seems like it can only dial 1 thing. What am I missing? |
| 20:11.31 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: use a call-file or AMI Originate |
| 20:11.36 | ACK-NAK | I'm kinda new so please forgive me. |
| 20:12.26 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: ManxPower: I can see how that would work. Do I understand correctly that there's really no good way to do that with Dial() |
| 20:13.18 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: ManxPower: In other words, using dial to do this would be operating outside of the paradigm of the application. Is that right? |
| 20:13.31 | ACK-NAK | [TK]D-Fender: ManxPower: By the way, thatnks a million for the suggestions. |
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| 20:17.15 | exothermic | anyone here do remote provisioning of the grandstream handytone 502s |
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| 20:22.18 | BooGrr | heya voxter |
| 20:22.40 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: you said " of course you can dial 2 things. This is just dialplan stuff. " Were you implying that there was a way to use Dial? Can you tell me how one could do this? |
| 20:22.43 | hardwire | hows life in the great white wherever? |
| 20:22.56 | voxter | hey. |
| 20:23.00 | voxter | oh hey hardwire :) |
| 20:23.14 | hardwire | indeed |
| 20:23.17 | hardwire | bows |
| 20:23.33 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: What you are wanting to do is when the outgoing leg of the call hangs up, you want to continue in the dialplan and do another Dial. Correct? |
| 20:23.37 | [TK]D-Fender | ACK-NAK: use a call-file or AMI Originate <-------------- |
| 20:23.49 | [TK]D-Fender | CHECKOUT TIME. lATER ALL |
| 20:23.52 | hardwire | runs away |
| 20:24.36 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: Pay special attention to the "g" option to Dial. "core show application dial" |
| 20:25.21 | voxter | hardwire: so, you must know who sarah palin is more than us, being from AK and all. is she as much of a cook as they're making her out to be on TV, or is she just getting a bad rap? |
| 20:25.51 | hardwire | voxter: I dunno.. I've never been invited to dinner. |
| 20:25.59 | hardwire | oh |
| 20:26.00 | hardwire | kook |
| 20:26.07 | voxter | oops |
| 20:26.08 | voxter | haha |
| 20:26.10 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: Thanks. Not quite. It's actually a completely different call. |
| 20:26.13 | voxter | didnt notice i used a c there. |
| 20:26.33 | voxter | hardwire: i was all... what? dinner? i dont get it.... haha |
| 20:26.35 | hardwire | voxter: sigh.. I dunno.. I have less to do with politics than most. |
| 20:26.42 | hardwire | she's a bit insane |
| 20:26.49 | hardwire | but so are all politicians |
| 20:27.26 | hardwire | lots of people here like her as our gov |
| 20:27.33 | hardwire | most people want her to stay as the gov |
| 20:28.03 | hardwire | I personally, don't care :| I'd much rather we're run by a group of self-aware logic bots. |
| 20:28.05 | WHYS | me too! |
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| 20:28.28 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: So rather than: A connected to D, D hangs up, A continues and is connected to B, instead it's A connected to D, A hangs up OR D hangs up, and B is connected to C. B and C are both machines, and will hang up when their communication is complete. |
| 20:28.50 | AlexTO | Hi ManxPower |
| 20:28.52 | hardwire | voxter: She's giving Alaska a bad rap tho. |
| 20:28.57 | hardwire | which I'm not too down with |
| 20:29.04 | hardwire | but I'm not much of a statesman anyways |
| 20:29.19 | voxter | nod |
| 20:29.34 | hardwire | if the war came to my front door I'd probably hand it a cup of tea and tell it it can use my wifi for a bit.. but I have a cap.. so don't be wasteful. |
| 20:30.27 | hardwire | voxter: hows canadia treating you? |
| 20:30.45 | voxter | hardwire: good. im in seattle right now installing a new backbone router |
| 20:30.58 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: When the callee hangs up the the dialplan can continue with the caller leg |
| 20:31.00 | hardwire | voxter: when we gonna talk nuts and or bolts. |
| 20:31.28 | ManxPower | hardwire: Alaska is full of...odd....people. You have to be odd to live there. |
| 20:31.46 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: try it and see. |
| 20:31.49 | hardwire | I need to get colors between Alaska and Seattle or Portland at some point |
| 20:32.08 | voxter | hardwire: soon soon. Im just about to drive home to vancouver here. |
| 20:32.20 | voxter | hardwire: next week sometime? |
| 20:32.53 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: but |
| 20:33.09 | hardwire | something cute happened the other day. |
| 20:33.17 | hardwire | I called an ISP and asked about their metro ethernet service. |
| 20:33.21 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: I'm not going to do everything for you. I'm just trying to get you pointed in the right direction. |
| 20:33.25 | hardwire | they said they offer that over G.SHDSL |
| 20:33.28 | hardwire | but it's not DSL |
| 20:33.29 | hardwire | I sighed |
| 20:33.40 | hardwire | then she said "we call it G dot Shedizzle. |
| 20:33.42 | ManxPower | hardwire: Correct. SHDSL is better |
| 20:33.57 | voxter | g dot shedizzle. |
| 20:33.59 | voxter | classic. |
| 20:34.00 | hardwire | ManxPower: it's better than ADSL.. true. |
| 20:34.11 | hardwire | but it's still in the DSL family |
| 20:34.19 | hardwire | hence the DSL part of the shedizzle |
| 20:34.28 | ManxPower | hardwire: most T-1s in the USA are really SDSL. |
| 20:34.33 | km- | man, that connection is the shedizzle! |
| 20:34.51 | voxter | oh hey km i didnt know you idled in here too. |
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| 20:35.02 | km- | I lurk, yeah |
| 20:35.46 | ManxPower | hardwire: at least it's not MVL |
| 20:36.22 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: I think your test presumes ONE of the two parties are still connected. the problem is not how to get on with the next priority if somebody hangs up, that's obvious. the question is whether or not there is a good way to connect two new parties to each other usign Dial(). |
| 20:36.26 | ManxPower | MVL was something Paradyne created. Think "DSL redesigned while the designer was stoned" |
| 20:36.33 | hardwire | ManxPower: SHDSL is fine.. I didn't know that people dropped that in in-place of T-Carrier service |
| 20:36.49 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: IT WILL DEFAULT TO GOING TO THE NEXT PRIORITY if certian things are done. |
| 20:36.53 | km- | I watched guys string fiber outside my house yesterday. Me wants it.. MY PRECIOUS. |
| 20:36.53 | hardwire | that seems slightly illegal |
| 20:37.06 | ACK-NAK | Isn't DSL over one pair, and TI over two pair : TX/RX? |
| 20:37.10 | hardwire | from a regulation and tarrifs standpoint |
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| 20:37.29 | ManxPower | hardwire: not really. SDSL requires much fewer repeaters and is handled across the telco backbone as 24 channels |
| 20:37.31 | km- | I think that's why ADSL is 1 pair |
| 20:37.34 | km- | and SDSL is two pair |
| 20:37.35 | km- | right? |
| 20:37.40 | ManxPower | kmcorrect |
| 20:37.45 | hardwire | ManxPower: weird.. it uses G.931? |
| 20:37.58 | hardwire | err. |
| 20:38.00 | ManxPower | hardwire: I don't think the tarrifs specify how stuff is transported. |
| 20:38.00 | hardwire | wrong numbers |
| 20:38.07 | hardwire | ManxPower: indeed it does |
| 20:38.18 | ManxPower | hardwire: shine a flashlight into a smarkjack sometime. |
| 20:38.27 | hardwire | universal service gives back to telcos so they can manage better networks based on current "state of the art" status |
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| 20:38.42 | km- | must. have. metro. fiber. |
| 20:38.45 | hardwire | if we're using less pairs..I want to be charged less |
| 20:38.47 | km- | OC-192 here I come! :P |
| 20:38.56 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: Getting to the next priority is trivial. How do you connect 2 new channels. If you connect one with Dial(), execution stops |
| 20:38.57 | ManxPower | Chances are you'll see a Pargain or Westel card with "DSL" on it. |
| 20:39.10 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: ...until it |
| 20:39.14 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: and execution continues if the callee hangs up. |
| 20:39.17 | hardwire | ManxPower: I have no idea what that jack is.. :| |
| 20:39.36 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: so where exactly do you instantiate the second call? |
| 20:39.54 | ManxPower | hardwire: it's the thing the telco sticks on the wall when they provide a T-1, usually has a smoked plexiglass front cover and a DXS-1 port for the customer to plug into |
| 20:40.00 | hardwire | ManxPower: I don't doubt you.. but I'm always going to be upset at telcos |
| 20:40.03 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: as the priority after the first call. |
| 20:40.18 | hardwire | ManxPower: ah, yes.. |
| 20:40.29 | ManxPower | exten => 666,1,Dial(SIP/god,,g) exten => 666,2,Dial(SIP/god) |
| 20:40.41 | ManxPower | sorry |
| 20:40.45 | seanbright | 616, technically |
| 20:40.47 | ManxPower | exten => 666,1,Dial(SIP/god,,g) exten => 666,2,Dial(SIP/devil) |
| 20:41.29 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: But that doesn't call the second one until the first one hangs up. The objective is to connect them togheter. |
| 20:41.43 | ManxPower | when god (callee) hangs up the dial plan continues to priority 2 (because of the g option) and then devil is dialed |
| 20:41.52 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: never gonna happen like that. |
| 20:42.05 | ManxPower | you never said you need three people connected at once. |
| 20:42.18 | ManxPower | you said when the call hangs up the caller needs to be connected to B |
| 20:42.20 | hardwire | adtran h4tur |
| 20:42.24 | hardwire | ManxPower: HDSL |
| 20:42.27 | hardwire | interesting |
| 20:42.34 | hardwire | our PRI is over DSL |
| 20:42.37 | hardwire | that explains .. a lot |
| 20:42.51 | ManxPower | hardwire: not really. |
| 20:43.00 | hardwire | ManxPower: indeed it does |
| 20:43.05 | hardwire | we have wire wrapped cable in the area |
| 20:43.05 | ManxPower | DSL is a generic term. |
| 20:43.09 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: No, I said when A and B disconnect, C (not A, nor B) needs to be connected to D. The total number of connected parties to connect is 2, C and D. |
| 20:43.29 | hardwire | and all the DSL circuits seem to shit out, because they use crappy copper route back to the CO |
| 20:43.36 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: then your only option would be AMI or call files and a meetme conference |
| 20:43.39 | hardwire | but in an adjacent building we have 4 wire |
| 20:43.47 | hardwire | and it works awesome |
| 20:43.59 | hardwire | and from what we hear it takes a different route out of our subdivision |
| 20:44.25 | ManxPower | hardwire: I don't consider it a T-1 if it's 1 pair 8-) |
| 20:44.41 | hardwire | ManxPower: neither do I |
| 20:44.42 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: OK. THat's what I thought. For a minute there I thought you'd come up with a creative way to do it using Dial(). |
| 20:44.48 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: I appreciate the 'air time' |
| 20:44.50 | hardwire | I didn't know to look until you mentioned it. |
| 20:45.23 | ManxPower | hardwire: telcos don't offer old style T-1s anymore and have not done so since at least the early 90s, maybe earlier. |
| 20:45.41 | ManxPower | Old style T-1s needed repeaters every 1,500 feet, not every 10,000 ft. |
| 20:45.53 | hardwire | ManxPower: wild mang |
| 20:46.05 | hardwire | ManxPower: I'm still a newb to PSTN |
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| 20:46.20 | ManxPower | however the "dsl based" t-1s have the exact same customer interface |
| 20:46.34 | hardwire | but I laughed when my 1990's style boss wanted raw pairs between two buildings 5 miles apart |
| 20:46.42 | hardwire | I said "they don't do that anymore" |
| 20:46.45 | hardwire | sure they do! |
| 20:46.48 | ACK-NAK | We're about to buy A T1 from XO - connecting to a nortel DMS 100. |
| 20:47.00 | hardwire | 'Then why did they park a box here for it? with blinky lights and all?' |
| 20:47.04 | ManxPower | hardwire: I installed some of the first business DSL in New Orleans using dry (raw) pairs. |
| 20:47.13 | hardwire | ManxPower: first |
| 20:47.16 | hardwire | that's not recent |
| 20:47.43 | hardwire | boss man was confused when the SHDSL modems didn't seem to work as expected |
| 20:47.44 | ManxPower | hardwire: mid-90s. This is new orleans we are talking about. The cable pairs were over 100 yrs old |
| 20:47.53 | hardwire | I had to explain that it only handles 8000hz |
| 20:47.58 | jjshoe | 1!!!ST PORTTSSTTTT |
| 20:48.09 | hardwire | ManxPower: ouch. |
| 20:48.28 | hardwire | ManxPower: well, thankfully, it worked :) |
| 20:48.34 | hardwire | so you have that I guess. |
| 20:48.40 | hardwire | oh and happy halloween everybody. |
| 20:48.59 | ManxPower | hardwire: if you can score a key to the smartjacks do so. |
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| 20:49.09 | ManxPower | Easier to try reseating the card than call the telco to do it. |
| 20:49.10 | hardwire | ManxPower: mine has no faceplate |
| 20:49.17 | ACK-NAK | hardwire: Qucik and dirty costume idea: If your name's Dave, put on a nametag that says Joe. |
| 20:49.17 | hardwire | and I can see the guts plainly |
| 20:49.19 | ManxPower | hardwire: lucy you. |
| 20:49.28 | ManxPower | lucky. gads, I can't type today |
| 20:49.29 | hardwire | ManxPower: it's an adtran board with model number |
| 20:49.34 | hardwire | SHDSL |
| 20:49.40 | ManxPower | What is the number? |
| 20:49.55 | ManxPower | Adtran, Pairgain, and Westel are the top 3 I think. |
| 20:50.06 | ACK-NAK | Survey: For doing TDMoE: Adtran or RedPhone |
| 20:50.14 | hardwire | Adtran H4TUR |
| 20:50.20 | hardwire | there is a sub model which I didn't bother to right down |
| 20:50.20 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: neither really |
| 20:50.30 | hardwire | ACK-NAK: do you like timing? |
| 20:50.51 | *** join/#asterisk jer (n=jer@unaffiliated/jer) |
| 20:50.56 | hardwire | runs away |
| 20:51.04 | ACK-NAK | hardwire: ManxPower: What do you recommend. |
| 20:51.15 | hardwire | ACK-NAK: real, honest to god, cards. |
| 20:51.26 | hardwire | plugged right into a low latency PCI bus :) |
| 20:51.51 | *** join/#asterisk jplank (n=GBove@ool-18bb018e.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:51.52 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: TDMoE really has not been well maintained in Asterisk since IAX2 had trunking added to it. |
| 20:52.00 | hardwire | I think clearwire is throttling me |
| 20:52.07 | jeev | hey |
| 20:52.11 | ManxPower | hardwire: the manual: www.adtran.com/adtranpx/Doc/0/6K8J5I62A8QKH9KHEBR4DPP2B9/61223HDSL4L2-5C.pdf |
| 20:52.14 | hardwire | horses |
| 20:52.15 | AlexTO | Hi ManxPower and everyone |
| 20:52.26 | jeev | 5000 packets transmitted, 4989 packets received, 0.2% packet loss |
| 20:52.28 | jeev | :/ |
| 20:52.33 | hardwire | it is indeed the L2 |
| 20:52.33 | jeev | charter came and switched the rusted shit |
| 20:52.34 | jplank | optimum still doesn't throttle :) |
| 20:52.46 | jeev | 1000 packets transmitted, 262 packets received, 73.8% packet loss |
| 20:52.46 | jeev | wow! |
| 20:52.52 | ACK-NAK | So if we want to send stuff to our legacy swittch you recommend 2 T1's one connected to teh circuit, the second passing stuff to the legacy system? |
| 20:52.56 | hardwire | it has bantem ports |
| 20:52.59 | hardwire | always wanted to use those |
| 20:53.31 | jaytee | Not having TDMoE well maintained doesn't bode will for a company like RedFone. Glad I talked my boss out of buying it at someone in here's recommendation that TDMoE was ill advised. |
| 20:53.40 | StephenF[W] | Any ideas why my SIP presence is not updated when I dial out, but is updated normally when someone calls me? |
| 20:53.41 | jaytee | looks over at ManxPower and smiles |
| 20:53.44 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: That's good information about TDMo# |
| 20:53.49 | ACK-NAK | TDMoE |
| 20:54.58 | StephenF[W] | I have a phone watching the SIP Hints for the extension. In the CLI show hints does not change on my extension when I dial out, when somone dials me it changes... |
| 20:54.59 | ManxPower | jeev: Sprint terminated access to one of the major backbone ISPs recently. Traffic flow in the internet is pretty screwed up in places. |
| 20:55.05 | ACK-NAK | So what architecture would you recommend: Telco provided PRI needs to have channels peeled out of it for * and the balance needs to go the legacy switch: Objective: migration of numbers and services from the old system to the new one. |
| 20:55.22 | *** join/#asterisk markit (n=marco@88-149-177-66.static.ngi.it) |
| 20:55.59 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: Your best bet is T-1 to the legacy box |
| 20:56.05 | ManxPower | T-1 card, at least. |
| 20:56.44 | ManxPower | jaytee: http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/sprint-nextel-severs-its-internet-connection-to-cogent-communications,603138.shtml |
| 20:57.17 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: So a 2 port T-1 card: Port 1: Telco to *, Port2: * to legacy? |
| 20:58.06 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: correct |
| 20:58.51 | lesouvage | ACK-NAK: if you use E1 for the connection between * and yor legacy system you have 6 extra channels (30 instead of 24). It is European but it will work within American borders ;-) |
| 20:58.51 | jaytee | ManxPower, sounds like Sprint is lashing out in anger. It'll backfire on them no doubt. |
| 20:59.06 | *** join/#asterisk telecos (n=sergio@153.166.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 20:59.16 | *** join/#asterisk DarkRift (n=dark@bas1-sthubert21-1096612047.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:59.33 | jjshoe | http://www.internetpulse.net/ |
| 20:59.34 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: Cool idea. |
| 20:59.42 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: It's done all the time |
| 20:59.44 | jeev | ManxPower, charter sucks ass |
| 21:00.32 | ManxPower | jeev: At least you are not stuck with Verizon EVDO |
| 21:00.37 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: Thanks man! |
| 21:00.54 | ACK-NAK | What kinds of problems to users of TDMoE typically run into? |
| 21:01.16 | ManxPower | 5 GB in a month. WHAM! Service terminated, no appeal. It happened to me. This MIGHT have changed since Verizon Wireless lost the class action suit. |
| 21:01.20 | jeev | damn ManxPower, i thought that's what you just preferred |
| 21:01.22 | jeev | where do you live ? |
| 21:01.30 | jeev | boonies ? |
| 21:01.31 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: Almost nobody can help with problems with TDMoE as so few people use it. |
| 21:01.36 | ManxPower | jeev: yes |
| 21:01.40 | jeev | you can't wait for wimax? |
| 21:01.48 | *** join/#asterisk Kate-o (n=vajda1ka@unaffiliated/kateo/x-334924) |
| 21:01.58 | ManxPower | jeev: I don't expect WiMax to be available here for at least 10 years. |
| 21:02.01 | jjshoe | wimax, lol. |
| 21:02.06 | jjshoe | read: joke. |
| 21:02.13 | Carlos_PHX | We use Wi-MAX at our facility. |
| 21:02.18 | ManxPower | The local tower was one of the last to be upgraded to EVDO on VZW's network. |
| 21:02.27 | Carlos_PHX | Getting our customers moved to it as much as possible. |
| 21:02.31 | jjshoe | you're using a draft technology? enjoy. |
| 21:02.39 | ManxPower | I don't have line of sight to most anywhere. |
| 21:02.44 | Carlos_PHX | We are greatly enjoying it. |
| 21:02.48 | *** join/#asterisk kotique (n=picachu@host-static-92-114-187-54.moldtelecom.md) |
| 21:02.59 | kotique | Hi. How do I hangup a channel from console ? |
| 21:03.07 | Carlos_PHX | We moved all the customers with crappy circuit issues first, big improvement. |
| 21:03.12 | jaytee | I can see Arkansas from the roof of my trailer but I can't see Russia or even Alaska :-( |
| 21:03.37 | ManxPower | jeev: Strongly doubt more than 50 people live on the mountain and 6 of them live next door |
| 21:03.42 | Carlos_PHX | Now we have guaranteed < 5ms to anyone in the city or metro area. |
| 21:03.50 | *** join/#asterisk hadronzoo (n=user@ppp-70-247-170-199.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 21:03.53 | jjshoe | kotique soft hangup |
| 21:04.16 | Carlos_PHX | ManxPower: Wi-MAX doesn't require LoS |
| 21:04.28 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: Good info. I've never tried this before, but how hard would it be to make the * T1 port look to our legacy system as though it's the Telco? If that's easy, we could simply put in a Rhino SPF failover card. If * takes a dump, it fails over to the legacy switch. |
| 21:04.30 | ManxPower | Carlos_PHX: I doubt it will punch thru a mountian. |
| 21:04.33 | bpgoldsb | Is there a way to destroy a hung channel? |
| 21:04.48 | bpgoldsb | I have some ChanSpy()'s running on the server that don't have associated people on them |
| 21:04.48 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: it's hard to make it NOT look like the telco. |
| 21:04.53 | jeev | lol jaytee |
| 21:05.00 | jeev | damn ManxPower, what state? |
| 21:05.09 | kotique | yeah, thanks jjshoe |
| 21:05.11 | Carlos_PHX | ManxPower: True |
| 21:05.18 | ManxPower | jeev: AL |
| 21:05.29 | jeev | damn |
| 21:05.32 | jeev | there are mountains there? |
| 21:05.37 | jaytee | Go 'bama, roll Tide! |
| 21:05.39 | jeev | seriously, i'm not kidding, thought it was flat hehe |
| 21:05.45 | putnopvut | jaytee: amen, bro |
| 21:05.45 | hadronzoo | Has anyone successfully used Vitelity to receive faxes (through Asterisk, not through their vFax service)? |
| 21:05.47 | ManxPower | I live on the top of a flat top mountain. |
| 21:06.05 | ManxPower | jeev: northern AL is the southern tip of the Appalachian mountains |
| 21:06.09 | jeev | ManxPower, you like living there? worth barely having internet? |
| 21:06.09 | Carlos_PHX | Vitelity doesn't offer T.38 |
| 21:06.10 | jeev | ahh |
| 21:06.18 | Carlos_PHX | That's what you need for reliable fax over IP |
| 21:06.24 | putnopvut | lol, I totally missed the rest of the conversation but saw the "roll tide" |
| 21:06.27 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: So it sounds like we'd have a reliable (unattended) failsafe even without having to resort to TDMoE |
| 21:06.34 | ManxPower | jeev: I live in an intentional community |
| 21:06.37 | Carlos_PHX | We are using ipcomms.net for T.38 with great success. |
| 21:06.45 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: Right, ok thanks |
| 21:06.52 | ManxPower | ACK-NAK: AND you'll be using technology MANY people are familiar with. |
| 21:07.00 | jeev | damn |
| 21:07.03 | jeev | that's like a cult thing lol |
| 21:07.06 | Carlos_PHX | We are just starting T.38 testing with Broadvox. |
| 21:07.06 | jaytee | I'm wondering if I can get into the Space Museum at Marshall on the saturday after class. Their website doesn't specify if they're open on Saturdays. Guess I'll just call on Monday. |
| 21:07.07 | jeev | it sounds like one. |
| 21:07.07 | ACK-NAK | Good to know. Thank you my friend. |
| 21:07.12 | ManxPower | jeev: not really |
| 21:07.17 | Carlos_PHX | hadronzoo: What's your fax call volume? |
| 21:07.29 | ACK-NAK | ManxPower: Thanks |
| 21:07.48 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: Very low, right now I'm using the free eFax service. But I would like to use one of our local numbers as a fax number |
| 21:08.04 | jeev | ManxPower, there must be a better way, no / get everyone to pitch in and get a nice dedicated line! |
| 21:08.19 | Carlos_PHX | For personal use you might just want to grab an account with IP Communications. |
| 21:08.37 | ManxPower | jeev: $600/month |
| 21:08.41 | jeev | how fast? |
| 21:08.48 | ManxPower | Also that's 1/2 of a T-1 |
| 21:08.52 | jeev | ew |
| 21:08.52 | ManxPower | so about 768K |
| 21:09.04 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: or just use Vitelity's vFax service |
| 21:09.06 | jeev | damn man that sucks butt |
| 21:09.11 | Carlos_PHX | Right |
| 21:09.18 | jeev | is it me or do i not trust virtual fax providers |
| 21:09.21 | jeev | they could just cc the shit to you |
| 21:09.22 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: thanks for the recommendations |
| 21:09.23 | jeev | themselves i mean |
| 21:09.23 | ManxPower | jeev: It's fine, I just can't go downloading ISOs all the time or do bittorrent |
| 21:09.23 | Carlos_PHX | T.38 is it's own beast and no fun. |
| 21:09.30 | jaytee | ManxPower, I promise if I ever hit the powerball jackpot I'll have fiber run right to your cabin |
| 21:09.39 | jeev | ManxPower, you're never getting 3G there either eh |
| 21:09.50 | jeev | jaytee, what are you getting me |
| 21:09.51 | ManxPower | jeev: I HAVE 3G. That's what EVDO is. |
| 21:09.55 | jeev | oh |
| 21:09.56 | Carlos_PHX | jeev: Well, as an ITSP I guess I could do all sorts of stuff to my customers, but don't. |
| 21:09.57 | jeev | yeam wops |
| 21:10.04 | Carlos_PHX | You can't trust any system with humans. |
| 21:10.05 | jeev | Carlos_PHX, but you suck! |
| 21:10.11 | jaytee | jeev, I'm going to get you something extra special...... a clue! |
| 21:10.14 | Carlos_PHX | True, but chicks dig it. |
| 21:10.15 | jeev | har har har |
| 21:10.25 | jeev | ManxPower, satellite? duh you've explored everything.. just wondering. |
| 21:10.52 | Carlos_PHX | ManxPower: So here's a story... Our local Wi-MAX provider started with the exact same problem you face. |
| 21:10.58 | Carlos_PHX | Community on a mountain, no service. |
| 21:11.15 | Carlos_PHX | He brought in expensive terrestrial services and redistributed with Moto Canopy. |
| 21:11.27 | Carlos_PHX | Today they're making a killing and covering most of the city. |
| 21:12.04 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: Ugh...Canopy |
| 21:12.25 | jeev | Carlos_PHX, but manx has like 50 people |
| 21:12.28 | jeev | i'm sure not everyone has a computer. |
| 21:12.52 | Carlos_PHX | Ugh, agreed somewhat, but it works. And it's better today than it was 2 years ago. |
| 21:13.15 | Carlos_PHX | I've deployed it myself (group of islands off SC), and it sure beats dialup! |
| 21:13.19 | jeev | really |
| 21:13.23 | jeev | how much does it cost to deploy it |
| 21:13.39 | Carlos_PHX | I don't recall, but I think $300-ish for the consumer radio. |
| 21:13.43 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: Yeah, I heard that it's improved. I did a deployment a few years ago in the UK and it was a mess |
| 21:13.48 | Carlos_PHX | I was a nerd, not an accountant. |
| 21:13.52 | jeev | for wimax? |
| 21:14.01 | Carlos_PHX | No, that's Canopy, something old. |
| 21:14.06 | jeev | my friend has major connects in nigeria |
| 21:14.08 | jeev | i wanted to put wimax there |
| 21:14.09 | Carlos_PHX | Wi-MAX is around $600 consumer radio. |
| 21:14.12 | jeev | but apparenty there already is one there |
| 21:14.14 | jeev | carlos, link ? |
| 21:14.29 | Carlos_PHX | Sorry, no link, that's what our Wi-MAX provider told me. |
| 21:14.36 | jeev | how far does that go |
| 21:14.38 | Carlos_PHX | They sell 2x2mb for $200/mo |
| 21:14.50 | Carlos_PHX | Around 10 miles, but speed drops after around 5. |
| 21:15.02 | jeev | damn |
| 21:15.09 | jeev | if i were to do it in africa, i'd make a lot |
| 21:15.13 | jeev | and give people reliable connection |
| 21:15.17 | Carlos_PHX | Wi-MAX has QoS built in and it really works. |
| 21:15.29 | hadronzoo | Hopefully the FCC will open up the inter-channel TV bands soon. Then wireless data will have a reasonable range |
| 21:15.36 | Carlos_PHX | Call quality is indistinguishable from LAN in Hammer. |
| 21:15.41 | jaytee | yeah, cuz Africa is where all the really rich people live. {smirk} |
| 21:15.51 | jeev | jaytee, there are a lot of billionaires there you'll never hear of here |
| 21:15.52 | jeev | lol |
| 21:15.58 | jeev | they choose to keep private, unlike ronald trump. |
| 21:16.01 | jeev | ronald donald dump |
| 21:16.04 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: Qualification: 10 mi LOS, right |
| 21:16.07 | jaytee | jeev, other than Shuttleworth probably true |
| 21:16.10 | jeev | mr. bankruptcy and make money, bankruptcy, money |
| 21:16.49 | jeev | eww |
| 21:16.55 | jeev | ther's a fish that they pulled out of someone's urinary tract |
| 21:16.59 | jeev | it bathes in blood |
| 21:16.59 | jeev | eww |
| 21:17.21 | jaytee | that's how they rich make most of their money, they make a ton then hide it, declare bankruptcy and go make more, then hide it again. |
| 21:18.16 | Carlos_PHX | hadronzoo: Right, all obstructions count against mileage. |
| 21:18.25 | Carlos_PHX | Also there is the option to bounce it off buildings and reflectors. |
| 21:18.35 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: or near-obstructions due to fresnel attenuation |
| 21:19.00 | Carlos_PHX | On our main site we have trees cutting into the fresnel zone, meaning we only get 5mb/4mb instead of 10x10mb |
| 21:19.15 | jeev | yea |
| 21:19.16 | jaytee | cops arrested a farmer in Illinois for killing a guy and his wife, the guy was hiding a tractor for him behind a false wall in a barn. he tipped off the IRS because the guy was losing it. Even the killer's brother was scared of him and slept with a gun. |
| 21:19.17 | Carlos_PHX | So we're going to probably put a reflector on a nearby building. |
| 21:19.23 | jeev | how do they file bankruptcy so many times |
| 21:19.28 | jeev | by getting credit that fast |
| 21:20.33 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: we had a 12 GHz transmitter on the Bank of America building here in Dallas. In some locations, we could increase signal strength by picking up the reflections off of parking lots. RF is a little tricky |
| 21:21.07 | Carlos_PHX | Yeah, and at 12GHz it gets weird. I used to do 23/24G installs. |
| 21:21.20 | Carlos_PHX | 12-24" dishes. |
| 21:21.21 | jaytee | there's always tropo-scatter but the recievers cost big bucks |
| 21:21.25 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: Satellite or terrestrial? |
| 21:21.31 | Carlos_PHX | Terrestrial only. |
| 21:21.38 | Carlos_PHX | Short-medium hauls. |
| 21:21.53 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: PtoP? |
| 21:22.02 | Carlos_PHX | Yes. |
| 21:22.46 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: cool. Yeah, the lower frequencies start acting less and less like one would predict |
| 21:23.17 | Carlos_PHX | Explaining fresnel zone to customers was.... Well, impossible. |
| 21:23.32 | hardwire | Carlos_PHX: use diagrams |
| 21:23.48 | Carlos_PHX | "I can see the other antenna, why do I need to cut the tree down???" |
| 21:23.48 | hardwire | or possibly grovers "near-far" technique. |
| 21:24.35 | Carlos_PHX | So we had a customer who didn't want to spring for a 12' mast. Used a 6'. And every day at 5:25 the system goes down. When the double-stack trains cut into the zone. |
| 21:24.59 | hardwire | gee dot sheedizzle. |
| 21:25.09 | *** join/#asterisk harry_v (n=harryv@S0106001d7e52cc78.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 21:25.10 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: so at 23/24 GHz, you're near water vapor absorption. How do you deal with rain an such? |
| 21:25.33 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: peak adsorption, rather |
| 21:25.38 | Carlos_PHX | We'd have outages in really heavy storms, but AZ sees little weather. |
| 21:25.44 | harry_v | Anyone seen a case where vm would not except a password that is known to work? |
| 21:25.57 | hadronzoo | Carlos_PHX: Ah right, in AZ it makes sense |
| 21:25.59 | Carlos_PHX | harry_v: Sure, if you have DTMF issues. |
| 21:26.11 | harry_v | mmm |
| 21:26.21 | Carlos_PHX | harry_v: More details? |
| 21:26.41 | harry_v | from time to time, ast does not except the password punched in. |
| 21:27.01 | harry_v | so perhaps i need to include that in sip.conf |
| 21:27.28 | Carlos_PHX | How do you receive these calls? What method/hardware? |
| 21:27.45 | harry_v | soft and hard phone and ata |
| 21:27.46 | markit | suggestion: any low power, low price hardware to run asterisk? something like a mini-itx but with price below or equal 100 euros (150$) |
| 21:27.56 | Carlos_PHX | Soekris |
| 21:28.00 | harry_v | going to include it. |
| 21:28.02 | harry_v | brb |
| 21:28.04 | Carlos_PHX | WRT54G running Linux. |
| 21:28.26 | Carlos_PHX | Forget transcoding of course. |
| 21:29.35 | ManxPower | jeev: Satellite is high latency not good for ssh, which is what I use for most of my work |
| 21:29.38 | hardwire | Carlos_PHX: lpc10! |
| 21:29.48 | markit | Carlos_PHX: soekris is not that cheap, and I would love to have something power enough for transcoding of some calls |
| 21:30.05 | hardwire | markit: there's lots of amd boards out there that can do the trick |
| 21:30.09 | ManxPower | Carlos_PHX: I've started many companies. Not interested in doing it again. |
| 21:30.11 | markit | Carlos_PHX: mini-itx are really over-prced... even cases const a lot, compared with regular pc ones |
| 21:30.11 | hardwire | check out pcengines |
| 21:30.20 | hardwire | markit: whats your budget? |
| 21:30.37 | markit | hardwire: I would love to spend around 100 euros |
| 21:30.52 | hardwire | you sir |
| 21:31.01 | hardwire | are a cheap, cheap, person. |
| 21:31.02 | markit | I have a regualr pc, but wastes a lot or Watts, that are expensive for a 24/24 system |
| 21:31.05 | Carlos_PHX | LOL |
| 21:31.18 | Carlos_PHX | How many calls/peers? |
| 21:31.21 | hardwire | markit: I have a link for you |
| 21:31.24 | hardwire | getting it now |
| 21:31.28 | markit | thanks |
| 21:31.31 | *** join/#asterisk anthm (n=anthm@freeswitch/developer/anthm) |
| 21:31.44 | markit | Carlos_PHX: is for my home... 1 or 2 calls |
| 21:31.52 | Carlos_PHX | The WRT works fine for that. |
| 21:32.07 | hardwire | http://www.applianceshop.eu/shop/ |
| 21:32.13 | hardwire | markit: ^^ |
| 21:32.16 | Carlos_PHX | I've tested it to three calls. |
| 21:32.30 | hardwire | Carlos_PHX: Geode 266 to 4 gsm calls for me |
| 21:32.35 | hardwire | transcoding from ulaw |
| 21:32.39 | hardwire | 2 for speex |
| 21:33.30 | hardwire | markit: http://applianceshop.eu/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=64&osCsid=fa6d09d3a08875718bab72b323ebbfea |
| 21:33.32 | markit | hardwire: thanks :) even if asterisk appliances listed there look >= 250Euros |
| 21:33.50 | markit | oh, that's good! |
| 21:33.53 | hardwire | markit: you're not in the US.. so your market isn't hurdling down a hill |
| 21:33.59 | hardwire | markit: buy US! |
| 21:34.12 | hardwire | it's expensive.. but you'll be supporting the greatest, fattest, nation ever! |
| 21:34.48 | hardwire | markit: the phones can do most of the codec handling if you do it right |
| 21:34.54 | markit | hardwire: I've no money, your banks have distrupted our economy also, so I'm in misery thanks to your nation, lol |
| 21:34.54 | hardwire | and convert all prompts to the codec you want |
| 21:35.07 | hardwire | markit: you sir, don't eat enough mcdonalds. |
| 21:35.09 | hardwire | that's the real problem here. |
| 21:35.25 | hardwire | boycotting our death filled patties with your .. green salads. |
| 21:35.35 | *** join/#asterisk RMod_ (n=nicolasj@unaffiliated/rmod) |
| 21:36.27 | Carlos_PHX | Is there meat in McDonald's food? |
| 21:36.32 | harry_v | dtmfmode= did not seem to make a difference |
| 21:36.51 | Carlos_PHX | Right, well, what is the call path? Hardware? Call type? |
| 21:36.53 | harry_v | mcdonalds will make you sick. |
| 21:37.09 | harry_v | iax or sip |
| 21:37.40 | harry_v | I can call a extention and make it ring but vm is not responding to the pass that is known to work. |
| 21:37.44 | Carlos_PHX | What is the endpoint? IE, can you find a pattern with certain phones? |
| 21:38.08 | harry_v | you mean commonality? |
| 21:38.44 | harry_v | btw, I have not looked at the cli regarding vm but shouldnt it show the digits pressed in for the pass? |
| 21:38.46 | jaytee | we bail em out of two world wars, loan them all gazillions they never pay back and then when we hit the skids they all blame us for their problems, sheesh! |
| 21:39.05 | hardwire | Carlos_PHX: he means deductive reasoning. |
| 21:39.07 | hardwire | err |
| 21:39.11 | hardwire | harry_v: he means deductive reasoning. |
| 21:39.11 | harry_v | jatee, we should get some of iraq oil to pay off our war deficit. |
| 21:39.21 | jaytee | lol |
| 21:39.40 | jaytee | should just annexed it as the 51st state |
| 21:39.59 | jeev | wtf |
| 21:40.04 | jeev | dtmf from my tmobile phone isn't being detected |
| 21:40.07 | jeev | from verizon, it is |
| 21:40.12 | jeev | it is being detected |
| 21:40.22 | jeev | it's logging it but not working |
| 21:40.31 | harry_v | so you see the dtmf when in vm mode? |
| 21:40.54 | Carlos_PHX | harry_v: I don't think anyone is going to have a conclusive answer, but looking for a pattern is probably your next step. |
| 21:40.57 | jeev | it's for my calling card service |
| 21:40.58 | jeev | weir |
| 21:40.59 | Carlos_PHX | IE, certain phones, etc. |
| 21:41.06 | jeev | i'm trying to call it and it's logging the dtmf |
| 21:41.11 | jeev | i'll have to test it another day |
| 21:41.28 | harry_v | Carlose, yes possibly |
| 21:41.38 | markit | wondering how much transcoding geode 500Mhz could do, if needed |
| 21:41.46 | harry_v | This is a old version probebly would be a good idea to update it. |
| 21:42.32 | hardwire | markit: I'd say 5 gsm channels |
| 21:42.41 | hardwire | and you'd not want to do any dynamic database stuff |
| 21:42.48 | hardwire | or watch logs scroll over the network :) |
| 21:42.50 | ManxPower | markit: My guess would about 1/2 of a call, maybe one full call. But the only way to find out is to try it. |
| 21:42.53 | hardwire | or really do anything useful with it |
| 21:42.57 | Carlos_PHX | Reboot for a wi-fi driver update? WTF. But this is Unix dammit. |
| 21:43.04 | hardwire | ManxPower: psshaw. |
| 21:44.06 | hardwire | http://www.yawarra.com.au/en-alix.php |
| 21:44.08 | hardwire | so colorful |
| 21:44.08 | jaytee | if I don't get any trick or treaters here by 8pm I'm gonna get in my car and throw the dammed candy at them from my driver's side window |
| 21:45.04 | SwK | anyone in huntsville interested in a Dell PE850 w/ dual core3ghz PentiumD CPU, 2G ram, 2x 160G Satas and DRAC4P? |
| 21:45.27 | harry_v | put a mechanical hand in the cookie jar, so when the kids reach in the hand grabs them :) |
| 21:46.12 | harry_v | my little dog did a good job scarring away a whole familly last year after thay left :) |
| 21:46.49 | hardwire | harry_v: we may tie the pit bull up outside this yea |
| 21:46.49 | hardwire | r |
| 21:46.56 | hardwire | if it's not too cold |
| 21:47.06 | hardwire | she loves to eat fingers. |
| 21:47.43 | harry_v | I was thinking of putting a bed outside with a hole cut in it. put a suitcase over it and hide in it with a gorilla suit. |
| 21:47.49 | jeev | ok, this is weird |
| 21:47.54 | harry_v | yes ? |
| 21:47.56 | jeev | how come my DTMF from tmobile doesn't detect or work |
| 21:47.57 | jeev | but verizon does |
| 21:48.14 | jaytee | cuz tmobile sux? |
| 21:48.19 | jeev | i know it sucks |
| 21:48.24 | jeev | but it was working yesterday and all the other days |
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| 21:48.32 | jaytee | I have Verizon and they semi-suck |
| 21:48.45 | jaytee | nuthin changed in your configs? |
| 21:48.50 | jeev | nope |
| 21:48.55 | jaytee | gotta be them then |
| 21:49.21 | jaytee | they probably "upgraded" their systems to "improve service to our customers" |
| 21:49.34 | harry_v | I think bell wireless is using asterisk as its vm. Told my wife, you know the phone your using? That is alisons voice on it :) |
| 21:49.47 | jeev | damn man |
| 21:49.52 | jeev | i'm fgonna pastebin this config |
| 21:49.52 | jaytee | only thing I've ever liked about TMobile was the Catherine Zeta-Jones commercials. |
| 21:49.54 | jeev | i took it from a wiki once |
| 21:49.57 | jeev | maybe someone could help |
| 21:50.00 | jeev | to clean it up |
| 21:50.19 | harry_v | I was going to work for T-mobile once :) |
| 21:50.34 | jaytee | jeev, don't count me in. I'm waitin for the pizza dude |
| 21:50.37 | jeev | http://hahacad.pastebin.com/d381d8754 |
| 21:50.38 | jeev | that's dirty |
| 21:50.44 | jeev | but i should clean it up |
| 21:50.53 | jeev | harry_v, you should've, then given me free everything |
| 21:50.54 | hardwire | since when does cell phone companies offer leased lines to customers? |
| 21:50.59 | *** join/#asterisk Carlos_PHX (n=Carlos@ip68-3-162-244.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 21:51.23 | jaytee | hardwire, when you're AT&T? |
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| 21:51.56 | hardwire | jeev: dtmf over cell? |
| 21:52.01 | jeev | huh |
| 21:52.05 | jeev | i'm calling from my cell i mean |
| 21:52.11 | jeev | isn't that called dtmf, if i press a key ? |
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| 21:52.23 | hardwire | it's signalling, more than tones. |
| 21:52.39 | jeev | whatever! |
| 21:52.40 | jeev | how come it dont work |
| 21:52.55 | harry_v | jeev, I did not like the idea of putting in 50 thousand miles a year opening up the cell sites to all the techs. |
| 21:53.11 | jeev | heh |
| 21:53.16 | jaytee | harry_v, what cell company? |
| 21:53.34 | harry_v | My step dad worked for the grand dady of all cell companies when its doors opened up in 1978. |
| 21:53.42 | harry_v | Jaytee, T-mobile |
| 21:53.44 | ManxPower | Headline: "Ubuntu 8.10 Outperforms Windows Vista" My response: "And I can outrun a quadriplegic, but I don't brag about it." |
| 21:53.57 | jaytee | ManxPower, ROFLMAO |
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| 21:54.23 | jeev | anyone check out the pastebin |
| 21:55.06 | jaytee | I'm looking at it |
| 21:55.26 | ManxPower | I have found that most issues with cell phones calling zap lines on Asterisk is 1) caused by relaxdtmf (you can get doubled digits) or 2) the gains are screwed up |
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| 21:56.08 | harry_v | jaytee, you said you have a calling card system running? |
| 21:56.35 | jaytee | no, jeev does |
| 21:56.42 | tzafrir_laptop | florz, have you seen the dahdi driver for the B410P? interestingly enough, at first glance it does not seem to support ami,ccs |
| 21:56.43 | jeev | it's some ghetto shit i picked up off the wiki |
| 21:56.49 | jeev | just to satisfy my friends lust to call international |
| 21:56.52 | jeev | saving him a lot of $ |
| 21:56.58 | jeev | ManxPower, it just started happening :( |
| 21:57.21 | ManxPower | jeev: I suspect your provider changed their DTMF mode. |
| 21:57.33 | jeev | so it doesn't matter if it works with Verizon but not Tmobile ? |
| 21:57.34 | harry_v | jeev, how is it going? is it basic landline callcard system? |
| 21:57.51 | jeev | it's sending it out his viatalk account. |
| 21:57.57 | jeev | SIP |
| 21:57.59 | jaytee | jeev, I'm no expert but it doesn't look that "messy" to me and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. |
| 21:58.17 | jeev | i used to make it work with callerid.. but people can spooforize caller id. |
| 21:58.41 | jeev | i wish i could do an interactive speeddial |
| 21:58.45 | jeev | where it stores the thing in the database |
| 21:58.47 | jeev | that's too much probably |
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| 22:00.03 | beek | Does a connection between an Adit 600 and Sangoma A104D take a straight-though or crossover cable? |
| 22:00.13 | ManxPower | beek: always a crossover cable if connecting something like a PBX or a channelbank in Asterisk. You would have to use a cross over to connect to the telco, but the telco does the crossover in their equipment for you. |
| 22:00.42 | ManxPower | beek: and it's a T-1 crossover, an ethernet crossover will NOT work. See the wiki for the pinouts |
| 22:00.54 | beek | Thanks -- I'm having difficulties getting my Adit 600 to come out of alarm and I wanted to confirm that. |
| 22:01.11 | jeev | # |
| 22:01.12 | jeev | exten => s,6,Authenticate(3222) ; read the pass using the /pass key in the database, set the account code to the pass |
| 22:01.17 | jeev | is it possible to do that another way? |
| 22:01.24 | jeev | i dont want it to say please enter your password, infact, i want it to say goodbye |
| 22:01.29 | jeev | so whoever calls by accident doesn't start puching shit in |
| 22:01.51 | ManxPower | jeev: just make sure the callerid is who is calling and send the call to the FBI |
| 22:02.03 | jeev | lol |
| 22:08.37 | jplank | vendors never want to admit fault and is very frustrating, we have a client that has a VOIP T1 with us. The kept saying they were having issues and the vendor kept saying it was our T1. So the vendor put in 2 Verizon POTS lines, guess what, same issues over the POTS lines, but somehow its still our fault |
| 22:09.30 | Carlos_PHX | Fire the vendor and put in Asterisk. |
| 22:09.36 | jplank | I'd love to |
| 22:09.44 | jplank | I wish it was that easy |
| 22:10.11 | Carlos_PHX | <ring ring> YOU'RE FIRED <click> |
| 22:10.16 | jeev | so i changed my friends 7000 business class one way ticket refundable to round trip for 6900... business class refundable |
| 22:10.17 | jeev | stupid airlines. |
| 22:10.20 | jplank | vendor is an idiot, when ever we ask them point plank, if this is a T1 issue, why is it happening over POTS lines, they just ignore the question |
| 22:10.33 | jplank | we are the carrier, not the customer |
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| 22:11.29 | jplank | then we installed a IAD to rip 2 lines off the T1 as analog so they can connect a regular telephone to the line and prove it was the system |
| 22:11.55 | jplank | so what did the vendor do, hooked them up to the PBX and said see they are still having the issue, even over those analog lines |
| 22:12.06 | Carlos_PHX | What system? |
| 22:12.12 | jplank | some POS 3com system |
| 22:12.18 | Carlos_PHX | Aggghhh |
| 22:12.19 | jplank | second hand |
| 22:12.21 | jplank | VOIP |
| 22:12.29 | jplank | the vendor has no clue what they are doing |
| 22:12.34 | jplank | and we hear the BS |
| 22:13.03 | jplank | No clue about QOS, or segregating the voice and data traffic |
| 22:13.06 | jplank | but we are the issue |
| 22:13.26 | harry_v | best ave is seperate lan |
| 22:13.30 | jplank | yea |
| 22:13.42 | jplank | he has the computers plugged into the phones, plugged into the jack |
| 22:13.45 | jaytee | Pizza guy just showed up at the door to deliver. I answered and said, "Excellent costume!" and held out my candy bowl. |
| 22:13.58 | jplank | when we asked if he seperated the traffic over VLAN's, he asked why would he do that? |
| 22:14.14 | jplank | jaytee: lol! |
| 22:14.16 | harry_v | and then when one of the employees watches a vidio the rtp goes to crap? |
| 22:14.17 | harry_v | :) |
| 22:14.23 | jplank | eaxctly |
| 22:14.28 | jplank | exactly* |
| 22:14.37 | jplank | it even happens on office to office calls |
| 22:14.40 | harry_v | should put in a seperate vlan |
| 22:14.43 | jplank | but somehow its our fault |
| 22:14.47 | jeev | ok, Peer User/ANR Call ID Seq (Tx/Rx) Format Hold Last Message.. the user/ANR, is showing 1310xxxxxx |
| 22:14.49 | jeev | it's missing a digit |
| 22:14.52 | jeev | how can i make it show EVERYHINg |
| 22:15.08 | hardwire | mmm avocado |
| 22:15.35 | harry_v | should have asked them to consider installing a second lan for the phones. |
| 22:15.41 | jplank | we did |
| 22:15.45 | harry_v | yes, not cheap but you wont have qos issues. |
| 22:16.01 | jplank | he said that it wasn't necessary, that they never had to do it before |
| 22:16.13 | jplank | thats when we really knew they had no clue what they were talking about |
| 22:16.16 | harry_v | explain to them loud and clear "phone calls are "LIVE" streams of data that cannot be interupted. |
| 22:16.44 | jplank | the worst part is our contract is up in two months |
| 22:16.47 | harry_v | well, yea...in a 3-5 user network? |
| 22:16.56 | ManxPower | put it in writing, make the customer sign off on it, then do it the way the customer wants. |
| 22:17.05 | harry_v | how big is this network and what is there workstations used for? |
| 22:17.07 | jplank | obviously, they are going to leave us, goto another carrier and have the SAME exact problem |
| 22:17.11 | ManxPower | Then when it doesn't work, you point to your document and say "I can do it right for $X" |
| 22:17.14 | harry_v | accounting or vidio editing? |
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| 22:17.16 | jaytee | I had to fight for the longest time with my idiot boss to use VLAN for VOIP since there was no way we were going to get the funding for separate infrastructure. He kept insisting VLAN wasn't necessary. I asked for it in writing and threatened to resign if I didn't get it or get VLAN. We got VLAN. |
| 22:17.31 | jplank | ManxPower: we didn't install the PBX, we aren't the vendor |
| 22:17.37 | hardwire | jaytee: did he resign? |
| 22:17.39 | Carlos_PHX | jplank: How many users/phones? |
| 22:17.49 | jplank | when we install PBX's we ONLY do it on a separate lan |
| 22:17.52 | ManxPower | jaytee: It's not like VLANs are hard. |
| 22:18.02 | jplank | Carlos_PHX: at least 50+ computers |
| 22:18.03 | jaytee | hardwire, I was the one who threatened to resign, not him. |
| 22:18.10 | hardwire | jaytee: did you use a switch that honored vlan prioritization? |
| 22:18.12 | hardwire | oh |
| 22:18.31 | Carlos_PHX | I mean, if we're not talking hundreds, I've never found it to be an issue. |
| 22:18.44 | jplank | but when the phone and computer are using the same cable |
| 22:18.44 | jaytee | ManxPower, no not hard at all but my boss knows how to use technical terms, he just doesn't understand their meaning. |
| 22:18.49 | jplank | yea, it becomes a problem |
| 22:18.56 | Carlos_PHX | jplank: Never seen it. |
| 22:19.06 | jeev | the minor respect i had for arnold schwarezhzhehhzerhnegger |
| 22:19.09 | jeev | just fell into the toilet |
| 22:19.21 | harry_v | I think its a base marketing moves for these phone vendors to include a pc rj45 jack on the phone |
| 22:19.29 | harry_v | for the pc server network |
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| 22:19.40 | hardwire | markit: well? |
| 22:19.41 | jplank | harry_v: theres nothing wrong with it as long as the person installing it knows what he's doing |
| 22:19.48 | Carlos_PHX | Unless you have some huge amount of traffic, or large number of phones, shared network is no issue. |
| 22:19.49 | ManxPower | jaytee: for several customers I've made proposals for a cheap solution, and provisions for a more expensive solution, have the budget for the more expensive solution, if it's not needed you come in under budget. |
| 22:19.59 | hardwire | did anybody notice the v-tech guy @ astricon? |
| 22:20.04 | hardwire | I have his card |
| 22:20.09 | harry_v | jplank, yea as long as the network does not get near 100% capacity |
| 22:20.11 | hardwire | i want to tell him "don't do anything, until we all approve it" |
| 22:20.49 | harry_v | I need to get out of here. |
| 22:20.51 | jplank | I've seen plenty of issues on a faste network with no QOS installed |
| 22:20.59 | harry_v | really |
| 22:21.14 | jplank | its not worth the headache |
| 22:21.34 | harry_v | yea nothing like ticked off clients |
| 22:21.37 | jplank | when we install a PBX, if they don't let us do it right, we won't take the job |
| 22:21.44 | markit | hardwire: the one you suggested me seems really interesting, I will investigate delivery costs, VAT and other things. thanks a lot, if not for asterisk, I could buy one as router/firewall |
| 22:21.50 | Carlos_PHX | jplank: Never seen an issue on a plain network < 50 phones/computers. |
| 22:21.59 | hardwire | markit: word to your mother. |
| 22:22.14 | jplank | Carlos_PHX: really depends on what they are doing on the network |
| 22:22.22 | hardwire | jplank: I work in the small business area |
| 22:22.29 | Carlos_PHX | True, that's why I was wondering about number of users and usage. |
| 22:22.33 | jplank | we had a customer with less then 20 phones/computers who were having issues |
| 22:22.36 | Carlos_PHX | Typical SMB, no problem. |
| 22:22.40 | hardwire | if they don't have a dedicated dsl for the phones, then we offer them our router/pbx hybrid |
| 22:22.46 | harry_v | jplank, what was the issues? |
| 22:22.48 | hardwire | and do the QoS ourselves |
| 22:22.52 | Carlos_PHX | We have one with 48 phones and CAD stuff, no problems. |
| 22:22.52 | jplank | it turned out they made vtraining videos |
| 22:23.05 | jplank | passing them around the network was causing a lot of issues |
| 22:23.17 | harry_v | great |
| 22:23.24 | jplank | we got them to swap out their switches with ones that did QOS and the issues went away |
| 22:23.36 | hardwire | I got some pricing on AAEON wall mounted PCI capable embedded devices |
| 22:23.38 | harry_v | jplank, which switches? |
| 22:23.41 | hardwire | I'm not too impressed |
| 22:23.48 | hardwire | however the visual appeal is there. |
| 22:23.56 | jplank | I'm not even saying its 100% a VOIP issue on the vendors end, I'm just saying its 100% a vendor issue |
| 22:24.11 | jplank | harry_v: we acually starting using netgears prosafe switches |
| 22:24.15 | jplank | or whatever they are called |
| 22:24.18 | harry_v | i see |
| 22:24.23 | hardwire | I may get a few of these: http://www.aaeon.com/thumb.asp?fname=/uploadfile/products/20071112115650317.JPG&w=400 |
| 22:24.24 | Carlos_PHX | jplank: Right, shouldn't be your problem at all. |
| 22:24.27 | hardwire | isn't it cute? |
| 22:24.29 | jplank | they work fine |
| 22:24.47 | jplank | Carlos_PHX: we keep trying to tell that to the client, but the vendor keeps saying we are wrong |
| 22:24.59 | Carlos_PHX | Been there. |
| 22:25.00 | jplank | since they are married to their vendor, and we are just a carrier, who do you think they believe |
| 22:25.12 | hardwire | their wives. |
| 22:25.17 | jplank | lol |
| 22:25.18 | hardwire | and hypnotoad |
| 22:25.35 | ManxPower | jplank: offer to let them become a client again after they take their head out of their ass. |
| 22:25.43 | jplank | this very client yelled at me because when I provided them a call report, it didn't say what extensions made the calls |
| 22:25.48 | harry_v | jplank, what card did you use ? sangoma or digium? |
| 22:25.49 | jplank | I was like what??? |
| 22:25.54 | Carlos_PHX | Time to fire your client maybe. |
| 22:26.02 | jplank | harry_v: not a asterisk |
| 22:26.03 | hardwire | jplank: except.. they are responsible for outbound CID |
| 22:26.09 | jplank | Carlos_PHX: two months left on the contract |
| 22:26.11 | jaytee | "We have no clue whatsoever as to the cause of the problem, however we are certain that it is not our fault!" |
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| 22:26.25 | hardwire | if they don't have DID mapping set up right then like.. wtf. |
| 22:26.26 | jplank | hardwire: we use p-asserted ID to send calls to VZ, they can't overide our caller ID |
| 22:26.59 | hardwire | jplank: I'll be doing the same thing, put out of a pool available per client. |
| 22:27.07 | hardwire | device |
| 22:27.07 | jplank | and its not a direct sip handoff to the client, we have an adtran TA900 converting it to PRI |
| 22:27.07 | hardwire | etc.. |
| 22:27.09 | harry_v | jplank, what I am saying is your inboound traffic passing though a sangoma card? |
| 22:27.23 | jplank | no - the client has a 3com system |
| 22:27.26 | Carlos_PHX | "I'm sorry, we can't work with diseased customers. You have a serious case of cranio-rectal inversion syndrome." |
| 22:27.26 | harry_v | okay adtran mmmm |
| 22:28.09 | harry_v | Canadians are even more anal or that is, more conservative. |
| 22:28.14 | jplank | hardwire: two way numbers are $10 a pop where inbound only are $3, which do you think they purchase |
| 22:28.42 | hardwire | jplank: that depends.. are they government? |
| 22:28.46 | jplank | Carlos_PHX: we are an email away from that very sentence |
| 22:28.50 | jplank | nay |
| 22:28.53 | hardwire | if so.. I'm sure they found a $50/pop option. |
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| 22:29.26 | Carlos_PHX | I'm about 50/50 on firing customers, whether they go away, or realize we're dead serious and re-think their position. |
| 22:29.29 | hardwire | jplank: so they have to have a single two way to set up the account, right? |
| 22:29.35 | jplank | yea |
| 22:29.36 | hardwire | then all the inbound only are cheaper eh? |
| 22:29.44 | jplank | they have 1 two way, and about 20 inbounds |
| 22:29.48 | hardwire | any reason, logically and outside of marketing, for that? |
| 22:30.02 | jplank | we pay more for twoway numbers then inbound |
| 22:30.07 | hardwire | ah. |
| 22:30.13 | jplank | we do it like that for termination reasons |
| 22:30.19 | hardwire | so you are handling bulk traffic on your own |
| 22:30.23 | jplank | yea |
| 22:30.27 | hardwire | that would be handy |
| 22:30.32 | jplank | we have interconnects with VZ and Paetec |
| 22:30.35 | hardwire | we have to do all sorts of evil up here to do that |
| 22:30.44 | jplank | we only use paetec as a backup |
| 22:30.48 | jplank | which is nearly never |
| 22:31.01 | harry_v | whois VZ? |
| 22:31.05 | jplank | sorry |
| 22:31.07 | jplank | Verizon |
| 22:31.07 | hardwire | jplank: drop shane at sateo.com an email plzkthx |
| 22:31.08 | harry_v | Verizon? |
| 22:31.10 | harry_v | k |
| 22:31.48 | jplank | we only deal with national tier1 carriers |
| 22:31.59 | jplank | that allows us not to get raped on calling |
| 22:32.13 | jplank | since we interconnect with VZ, a local call is a local call |
| 22:32.18 | harry_v | yes |
| 22:32.22 | hardwire | do you pay mileage to their CO's? |
| 22:32.29 | jplank | nah |
| 22:32.36 | jplank | we are in the same colo |
| 22:32.45 | hardwire | sounds.. redundant :) |
| 22:32.46 | jplank | just a faste xconnect |
| 22:32.58 | jplank | yea |
| 22:33.02 | jplank | same thing with paetec |
| 22:33.04 | hardwire | up here it's a bit different |
| 22:33.14 | jplank | gives us 98% of the rate centers in america |
| 22:33.18 | hardwire | I need to find similar service at a carrier hotel and do something similar |
| 22:33.25 | jplank | we can port *almost* any number |
| 22:33.26 | hardwire | but I need to piggyback off another provider for now, if possible |
| 22:33.41 | jplank | hardwire which I could help you in CA |
| 22:34.07 | hardwire | jplank: what facility is it.. I use serverbeach for several things |
| 22:34.16 | jplank | 111 8th ave |
| 22:34.22 | jplank | 60 hudson street |
| 22:34.39 | jplank | all NYC |
| 22:35.24 | Carlos_PHX | jplank: We're considering Paetec. Comments? |
| 22:35.53 | jplank | for what? |
| 22:35.55 | *** join/#asterisk smelgin (n=smelgin@adsl190-28-141-5.epm.net.co) |
| 22:35.58 | Carlos_PHX | We're in Phoenix, they have a good presence here now. |
| 22:36.04 | Carlos_PHX | SIP and possibly ISP. |
| 22:36.14 | jplank | great company |
| 22:36.17 | jplank | good people |
| 22:36.20 | jplank | slow at everything |
| 22:36.32 | jplank | ass backwards setups for T1's and stuff like that |
| 22:36.46 | smelgin | (@) |
| 22:36.59 | Carlos_PHX | If we do T1s they'll be data with an Ethernet handoff, so should be transparent. |
| 22:37.08 | *** join/#asterisk newmember (n=chatzill@static-66-11-81-77.ptr.terago.net) |
| 22:37.12 | Carlos_PHX | We're happy with our PRI carrier. |
| 22:37.12 | jplank | like they release T1's to us before testing with the LEC |
| 22:37.15 | jplank | makes no sense |
| 22:37.17 | Carlos_PHX | Nice |
| 22:37.29 | jplank | and yell at us because we ask them to test first |
| 22:37.44 | jplank | they want to setup a conference bridge for EVERY T1 turn up |
| 22:37.57 | jplank | but their support is the best |
| 22:38.23 | Carlos_PHX | Our PRI carrier wanted a conference bridge for every DID block turn up... |
| 22:38.44 | *** join/#asterisk km2 (n=x@32.178.59.154) |
| 22:38.51 | jplank | lol |
| 22:38.53 | jplank | you win |
| 22:38.56 | Carlos_PHX | That's good to hear, you use SIP from them? |
| 22:39.03 | jplank | yea, they are our back up |
| 22:39.24 | *** part/#asterisk markit (n=marco@88-149-177-66.static.ngi.it) |
| 22:39.36 | Carlos_PHX | Any SIP inbound? |
| 22:39.43 | jplank | and they provided a couple 100 DID's for us |
| 22:40.11 | write__erase | I have 1 sip and 1 sccp phone. each one works great with echo 600 application, but they can"t communicate together (signalisation ok, but no voice) . Any idea ? |
| 22:40.37 | Carlos_PHX | write__erase: NAT? |
| 22:42.04 | write__erase | Carlos_PHX, both are in the same private network ... There should be no problem with that |
| 22:42.52 | Carlos_PHX | If you have signaling but no voice, then you must have some IP or port issues going on. Pastebin the sip.conf |
| 22:43.07 | Carlos_PHX | Also rtp.conf |
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| 22:44.27 | jaytee | canreinvite=no? |
| 22:45.33 | write__erase | It's something related with SCCP to SIP ... |
| 22:46.16 | jaytee | yes, but you need * in the middle to do the protocol conversion if I'm not mistaken (which I often am) |
| 22:46.45 | write__erase | yeah ... as this is different protocols . |
| 22:47.11 | write__erase | So I guess there is some mess in the way Asterisk transcodes. |
| 22:47.51 | jaytee | or it's trying to do a reinvite between the phones and rtp drops when * steps out for a smoke break |
| 22:48.22 | jaytee | just a wild ass guess but it's the best I've got |
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| 22:48.58 | write__erase | I'll drop a mail to chan_sccp_b mailing list... I'm sure someone had this setup . |
| 22:49.08 | jaytee | write__erase, have you ever had calls work between the sccp phone and the sip phone? |
| 22:49.17 | write__erase | nope never |
| 22:49.23 | write__erase | This is my first attempt |
| 22:49.40 | write__erase | But both can call 600 Test Echo app, and It's OK |
| 22:49.44 | jaytee | I wasn't even aware it was possible but then I have no Cisco phones |
| 22:50.33 | write__erase | Until * transcodes both signals and streams, I don't see any problem with that |
| 22:52.37 | ManxPower | Asterisk can translate from ANY protocol Asterisk supports to any other protocol Asterisk supports. For the RTP based stuff there doesn't even have to be a transcode. |
| 22:53.07 | beek | ManxPower: The crossover did the trick and my Adit 600 happied up just fine. Thanks. |
| 22:53.12 | ManxPower | SIP, SCCP, MGCP and (I think) H323 all use RTP for their audio. IAX2 does not. |
| 22:53.15 | jaytee | ManxPower, so you wouldn't need canreinvite=no to lock the media to the server? |
| 22:53.34 | ManxPower | beek: you're welcome. do /msg jbot manxpower for more info |
| 22:53.45 | ManxPower | jaytee: not unless NAT was involved. |
| 22:54.02 | jaytee | ah, ok. |
| 22:54.40 | jaytee | I learn so much just hangin in here :-) |
| 22:55.05 | ManxPower | jaytee: I don't know how WELL to/from H323 would be, but the rest should be OK |
| 22:56.16 | jaytee | ManxPower, I've never messed with sccp or skinny so I wasn't sure if * had to act as a proxy to do the protocol transforms. |
| 22:57.24 | jaytee | and he said his echo test worked for both phones so it shouldn't be a rtp port problem. |
| 22:57.38 | ManxPower | jaytee: I like the "dumb endpoint" of SCCP and MGCP -- those protocols just don't work well in Asterisk. |
| 22:57.54 | jaytee | this one sounds interesting even though I'm not likely to ever use Cisco phones. |
| 22:57.57 | protocols | sure I work |
| 22:59.13 | ManxPower | MGCP and SCCP work more like you would expect a PSTN phone to work. every digit is sent to the server as it is dialed, very little smarts in the actual phone. |
| 22:59.32 | *** part/#asterisk russellb (n=russellb@asterisk/digium-open-source-team-lead/russellb) |
| 22:59.36 | jaytee | write__erase, have you increased your CLI verbosity and are you getting any error messages on the CLI |
| 23:00.13 | jaytee | ManxPower, I kinda like that method. Futzing with the dialplan digitmap in Polycoms is mildly annoying. |
| 23:00.35 | jaytee | and with Linksys SPAs it's a royal pain in the patoot |
| 23:00.54 | ManxPower | jaytee: DND, CF, etc is all on the server with MGCP/SCCP where IMNSHO is where they belong |
| 23:01.28 | jaytee | lol, IMNSHO. I love it! |
| 23:01.34 | write__erase | jaytee, I'm reading these logs :-) |
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| 23:15.46 | jaytee | damn, I ate too much pizza and now I'm drowsy. |
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| 23:20.00 | Carlos_PHX | Pizza drunk...mmm |
| 23:20.57 | jaytee | doc said I needed to cut back on cheese because of my cholesterol. I said, "can I use your phone to call Pizza Hut?" |
| 23:23.39 | Carlos_PHX | Cholesterol is just a fine balance. I put a lot of salt on my pizza to keep that balance. The salt increases blood pressure so the cholesterol can't cause a clog. |
| 23:23.56 | Carlos_PHX | The cholesterol hardens the arteries so they won't explode from the high pressure. |
| 23:23.57 | joobie | guys anyone know some free call providers to landlines / mobiels, etc? |
| 23:23.58 | Carlos_PHX | Win-win. |
| 23:24.03 | joobie | not just within the same provider..? |
| 23:24.50 | jaytee | rofl!!!!!! |
| 23:25.31 | Carlos_PHX | I actually said that to a doctor and he took me totally seriously, I thought he was gonna pass out. |
| 23:26.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Carlos_PHX: My mother was the same way about her meds. One said "may cause constipation", the other "may cause diarrhea", so she figured they'd just cancel each other out |
| 23:26.23 | jaytee | Carlos_PHX, I pay 87 bucks a month for 30 tablets of Hyzaar for my hypertension. It's 100mg of Losartan Potassium and 12.5 milligrams of hydrochlorothiazide, a diuretic. It lowers my BP and makes me piss like a racehorse all morning but it works. |
| 23:26.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Carlos_PHX: Reality was more like being drawn and quartered. Sure the forces are equal and opposite... doesn't mean you aren't getting torn into evenly sized chunks... |
| 23:26.58 | Carlos_PHX | Sounds like fun. |
| 23:27.05 | jaytee | at my worst point my BP when it spiked was 178 over 118 |
| 23:27.32 | Carlos_PHX | Damn |
| 23:27.51 | jaytee | all because I never listened to my friends when they'd say, "Why don't you have a little pizza with your salt?" |
| 23:27.51 | Carlos_PHX | Mine is fairly low, which is strange when you consider some of the end users I have to deal with. |
| 23:28.17 | Carlos_PHX | Starts to think about dinner options. |
| 23:28.50 | Carlos_PHX | Dreaming of the 22 ounce Porterhouse at the local pub |
| 23:29.49 | jaytee | I'd prefer the 12oz filet mignon cooked rare at a local restaurant that does it very well. |
| 23:30.16 | Carlos_PHX | Sounds like a great appetizer. |
| 23:30.21 | jaytee | lol |
| 23:34.23 | joobie | guys is it possible to dynamically set caller_id on say pennytel? |
| 23:34.29 | joobie | like depending on a user dialling... |
| 23:35.22 | Carlos_PHX | You can set CID, your provider may or may not respect it. |
| 23:35.32 | joobie | ahh |
| 23:35.36 | Carlos_PHX | So not sure you're asking about the set part or the provider part. |
| 23:35.44 | joobie | both parts |
| 23:35.45 | joobie | :) |
| 23:35.52 | Carlos_PHX | Any decent provider will. |
| 23:36.00 | Carlos_PHX | So yes, you can set CID all you want. |
| 23:36.01 | joobie | CID: Yes, on Australian untimed accounts only. Verified phone numbers can also be used for CID. Verification is easy process through a web based interface, followed by an automated phone call. |
| 23:36.07 | joobie | that is on a review page of pennytel |
| 23:36.26 | joobie | Carlos, how is it set in asterisk |
| 23:36.30 | Carlos_PHX | Interesting. Many others will let you set it to whatever. |
| 23:37.34 | joobie | maybe some sort of security thing.. |
| 23:37.36 | Carlos_PHX | That's well covered in the voip-info.org wiki. |
| 23:37.43 | joobie | but that's ok carlos, i have a registered number with them now |
| 23:37.46 | justdave | dunno how long that'll last... it might start getting regulated and companies will have to prove via random audit that they're verifying them before gating to the PSTN |
| 23:38.02 | justdave | lots of phishers are taking advantage of that to forge callerID to other companies lately |
| 23:38.11 | joobie | yaa.. there is something not right about being able to specify someone elses number when you dial out |
| 23:38.23 | justdave | there's legitimate reasons for it... |
| 23:38.29 | joobie | like? |
| 23:38.31 | justdave | like if you run a long distance calling card service |
| 23:38.42 | Carlos_PHX | As an ITSP, we must be able to do this. |
| 23:38.46 | justdave | after you place the call, you want the callerid to list the person making the call, not the phone company |
| 23:38.55 | joobie | true |
| 23:38.57 | Carlos_PHX | We don't use "trunks" with a built in CID for one. |
| 23:39.03 | jaytee | CALLERID: "Hi, it's your mother calling with great news on how you can save money on blah, blah, blah........" |
| 23:39.40 | Carlos_PHX | And I think it's perfectly legitimate to say that I want to be able to call my friends while showing the wife's cell phone and see if they talk dirty. |
| 23:39.54 | joobie | lol |
| 23:43.10 | ManxPower | I want calls forwarded to my cell phone to have the Caller*ID of the original caller, not the Caller*ID of the outgoing line on the PBX. |
| 23:43.49 | Carlos_PHX | Just one of many things that require a "bogus" CID, there are so many. |
| 23:44.13 | ManxPower | *nod* |
| 23:45.33 | Carlos_PHX | There's really no concept of "real" CID unless you're on a single analog trunk. Otherwise it's just a matter of fraud or no fraud intent. |
| 23:45.57 | Carlos_PHX | Even our PRIs have no CID of their own at all. |
| 23:46.01 | ManxPower | Carlos_PHX: much like a crowbar, can be used for good or evil |
