| 00:00.13 | C4away | .. /etc/asterisk |
| 00:00.21 | rue_mohr | http://www.aastratelecom.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-3D8CCB6A-6BA685FB/03/hs.xsl/27919.htm#dl_instructions |
| 00:00.28 | rue_mohr | there is a link for you C4away |
| 00:00.32 | ki4lzk | yes i do make install and it tells me i need wget or fetch inorder to download the sounds. I have wget |
| 00:00.41 | Micc | Does anyone know of a good 5 line or more voip adapter? |
| 00:00.54 | Micc | That can do g729 on all lines? |
| 00:00.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Linksys SPA-8000 |
| 00:01.12 | idrew | says command not found |
| 00:01.23 | ki4lzk | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jjones/Download/asterisk-1.6.0.3/sounds' |
| 00:01.23 | ki4lzk | ************************************************** |
| 00:01.23 | ki4lzk | *** *** |
| 00:01.23 | ki4lzk | *** You must have either wget or fetch to be *** |
| 00:01.24 | ki4lzk | *** able to automatically download and install *** |
| 00:01.24 | ki4lzk | *** the requested sound packages. *** |
| 00:01.26 | ki4lzk | *** *** |
| 00:01.28 | ki4lzk | *** Please install one of these, or remove any *** |
| 00:01.30 | ki4lzk | *** extra sound package selections in *** |
| 00:01.32 | ki4lzk | *** menuselecct before installing Asterisk. *** |
| 00:01.34 | ki4lzk | *** *** |
| 00:01.38 | ki4lzk | ************************************************** |
| 00:01.38 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o [TK]D-Fender] by ChanServ |
| 00:01.40 | ki4lzk | make[1]: *** [have_download] Error 1 |
| 00:01.42 | ki4lzk | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jjones/Download/asterisk-1.6.0.3/sounds' |
| 00:01.44 | ki4lzk | make: *** [datafiles] Error 2 |
| 00:01.45 | *** kick/#asterisk [ki4lzk!n=joe@64.235.218.194] by [TK]D-Fender ([TK]D-Fender) |
| 00:01.46 | drmessano | yay |
| 00:01.50 | C4away | idrew: "w" says command not found? |
| 00:02.00 | Nugget | *** You must be smarter than a brick to install asterisk *** |
| 00:02.06 | idrew | w works fine, I was talking about ../etc/asterisk |
| 00:02.07 | drmessano | HAHAAHAH |
| 00:02.11 | C4away | oh |
| 00:02.12 | C4away | no .. |
| 00:02.21 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: thats the PATH |
| 00:02.26 | C4away | I just had to type that or my IRC client says "/etc/asterisk unknown command" |
| 00:02.30 | *** join/#asterisk ki4lzk (n=jjones@ip24-255-222-124.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 00:02.31 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: To where *'s config files usually are |
| 00:02.39 | Qwell | C4away: /say |
| 00:02.44 | [TK]D-Fender | ki4lzk: Do NOT spam in here |
| 00:02.45 | ki4lzk | sorry everyone |
| 00:02.51 | [TK]D-Fender | ki4lzk: PASTEBIN is yrou friend |
| 00:02.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 00:02.53 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/ |
| 00:02.54 | drmessano | ~brick |
| 00:02.54 | jbot | Send email to mailto:bootldr@handhelds.org with details if you believe that you have bricked your ipaq |
| 00:02.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 00:02.55 | C4away | Qwell: Unknown command: SAY |
| 00:03.05 | Qwell | C4away: get a real client :D |
| 00:03.19 | idrew | right, I understand. I tried /etc/asterisk as well and I received the same thing |
| 00:03.21 | C4away | I'm trying miranda, it's open-source and extensible |
| 00:03.26 | C4away | I have an IAX plugin for it |
| 00:03.33 | C4away | and all sorts of stuff |
| 00:03.33 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: What do you mean "tried"? |
| 00:03.35 | idrew | "cd /etc/asterisk" as well brought up nothing |
| 00:03.44 | C4away | it's an expirament, after 10+ years of mIRC I thought I'd try something new |
| 00:03.56 | idrew | by "tried" I mean I am ssh'd into the server and am trying to find the asterisk directory |
| 00:03.58 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: Since when does changing the currentl folder "bring something up"? |
| 00:04.27 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: You looked for files are there were none? |
| 00:04.29 | rue_mohr | what the hell, why is my 9134i looking for i33.st on the ftp server!? |
| 00:04.36 | drmessano | ~brickmenuselect |
| 00:04.36 | jbot | *** You must be smarter than a brick to install asterisk *** |
| 00:04.41 | drmessano | :( |
| 00:04.46 | rue_mohr | arg, and the manual says 33i |
| 00:04.55 | idrew | D-Fender: I just get "No such file or directory" |
| 00:04.56 | rue_mohr | what the heck is going on here, where is my invoice |
| 00:05.03 | C4away | idrew: try this: cd /etc/asterisk |
| 00:05.04 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: Show us... |
| 00:05.19 | C4away | if it says no such file or directory, then he hasn't yet installed asterisk |
| 00:05.31 | idrew | alright, hang on a second and I'll paste to pastebin |
| 00:06.35 | idrew | http://pastebin.ca/1308556 |
| 00:06.55 | C4away | idrew: the best way to learn linux is to set up a web/database/email server ... then you learn about linux security and proper configuration very quickly ... as well as learning all the basics |
| 00:07.42 | idrew | C4away: I have a shared hosting account on a linux server and know how to access directories and whatnot, but I just haven't been able to get anything to work on this |
| 00:08.03 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: cd /etc/asterisk |
| 00:08.07 | idrew | I definitely don't know a lot about it, that's why I'm just getting someone to do it for me, along with not having a lot of time. |
| 00:08.20 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: Like you were told repeatedly |
| 00:08.26 | C4away | I'm just saying, that's what I did, jumped directly into the deep end with linux, was good for me, but not my hair as most of it ended up getting pulled out |
| 00:08.45 | [TK]D-Fender | [19:03]<idrew>"cd /etc/asterisk" as well brought up nothing <-- and nowhere in that pastebin do I see you try it |
| 00:08.56 | idrew | D-Fender: I thought I did |
| 00:08.58 | idrew | geez, sorry |
| 00:09.14 | idrew | tried that now, and nothing as well |
| 00:09.23 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: Pastebin... |
| 00:09.30 | ki4lzk | if anyone one could help me out. here is the error i am getting |
| 00:09.32 | ki4lzk | http://pastebin.ca/1308558 |
| 00:09.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ki4lzk: Install wget on your server |
| 00:09.57 | C4away | rue_mohr: the admin guide seems to be combined for all of those phones... call me surprised since apparently they FINALLY standardized all of their commands between phones |
| 00:10.01 | idrew | D-Fender: What about pastebin? |
| 00:10.15 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: Show me your newfound error |
| 00:10.28 | rue_mohr | grinds his teeth, i ordered 9134 and they send 33i phones |
| 00:10.50 | *** join/#asterisk gmfm (n=hithere@boise-office.itsatomic.net) |
| 00:10.58 | idrew | http://pastebin.ca/1308561 |
| 00:11.11 | idrew | I guess I could have updated the original, but oh well |
| 00:11.31 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: Well congratulations, looks like Asterisk hasn't been installed yet |
| 00:11.43 | ki4lzk | [TK]D-Fender: i already have wget |
| 00:11.44 | ki4lzk | http://pastebin.ca/1308562 |
| 00:12.00 | idrew | D-Fender: I just didn't know how to check and wanted to make sure. sorry... |
| 00:12.14 | rue_mohr | http://www.aastratelecom.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-3D8CCB6A-E9EACDFE/03/hs.xsl/18233.htm <-- there is nothing for the 33i, what do I do? |
| 00:12.47 | C4away | just configure it though the web gui |
| 00:12.53 | [TK]D-Fender | ki4lzk: Let me guess, you have only just now installed wget, didn't you? |
| 00:12.59 | C4away | and tunneling with putty or ssh is easy |
| 00:13.08 | rue_mohr | c4 I cant, there are things I need to set that aren't in the web ui like auto dial on pickup |
| 00:13.17 | ki4lzk | i need to reconfigure don't i |
| 00:13.18 | C4away | that's in my web gui |
| 00:13.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ki4lzk: Yes. |
| 00:13.35 | [TK]D-Fender | ki4lzk: make clean |
| 00:13.38 | C4away | rue_mohr: |
| 00:13.38 | C4away | Autodial Number |
| 00:13.39 | C4away | Autodial Timeout |
| 00:13.41 | ki4lzk | thank you, I didn't even think about that, tanks so much |
| 00:13.44 | C4away | copied/pasted from the web gui |
| 00:13.56 | rue_mohr | I ahve that in the config filesand it not working |
| 00:13.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ki4lzk: np |
| 00:14.13 | rue_mohr | and dispite all the configs looking just find int eh ui they aren't working |
| 00:14.18 | *** join/#asterisk andy-x_l (i=4009f600@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b6077e031733a884) |
| 00:14.33 | idrew | just out of curiosity...do cisco 7970's work well with asterisk? that's what I'm planning on using. |
| 00:14.41 | rue_mohr | its says - no service- this is crasy I had this working through 2 tunnels to get to my home * server and it worked just fine |
| 00:14.48 | idrew | I haven't found a whole lot of people using cisco phones with asterisk from my google'ing |
| 00:14.49 | ki4lzk | D-Fender: I installed to my hard drive using a livedisc for the first time and didn't realize half te normal stuff is not installed |
| 00:14.50 | C4away | it's under the "Autodial Settings" section on the Global Sip or Line X pages |
| 00:14.53 | *** join/#asterisk mog (n=mog@c-68-62-217-121.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 00:14.53 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o mog] by ChanServ |
| 00:15.11 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (n=annon@tony09-121-90.inter.net.il) |
| 00:15.30 | Dovid | hi anyone here using mpg123 for MOH as a stream ? |
| 00:15.37 | rue_mohr | they say not to |
| 00:15.50 | *** join/#asterisk tobias (n=tobias@user-0ce2hu8.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:15.51 | rue_mohr | they say use the asterisk internal one cause mpg123 sucks |
| 00:15.53 | lowtek | I'm using madplay, works great. |
| 00:15.54 | rue_mohr | so they say |
| 00:15.55 | C4away | rue_mohr: your issue isn't a configuration issue at this point (at least it sounds that way) ... more of a registration error |
| 00:15.59 | gmfm | anyone know of a tool to test the MOS or quality of SIP/RTP path between 2 points? |
| 00:16.20 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: Cisco = trouble |
| 00:16.29 | rue_mohr | right now its primary a registeation issue |
| 00:16.36 | lowtek | gmfm: mtr is my favorite tool |
| 00:16.38 | [TK]D-Fender | idrew: And over-priced trouble at that |
| 00:17.11 | gmfm | lowtek: thanks, I will try it out |
| 00:17.14 | C4away | idrew: http://www.voipcoop.org/viewtopic.php?t=30 <-- cisco setup using chan_sccp |
| 00:17.17 | rue_mohr | all the paramiters in the ui seem to be righ tot get to the * server |
| 00:17.19 | idrew | D-Fender: I just found a few reasonably priced ones on ebay that i thought I'd try out |
| 00:17.44 | rue_mohr | I have * sip debug on for the phones ip, and I'm not seeing anything |
| 00:17.45 | C4away | rue_mohr is this connecting to an asterisk server on the local LAN? |
| 00:17.52 | C4away | or out through a firewall/proxy of some sort? |
| 00:17.57 | rue_mohr | this is local, they are on the same switch |
| 00:18.14 | rue_mohr | same lan, no vlan |
| 00:18.20 | rue_mohr | same network |
| 00:18.27 | C4away | then double check sip.conf and make sure that the user names and passwords are correct and all that |
| 00:18.33 | C4away | double triple check everything |
| 00:18.44 | rue_mohr | I been doing that for 3 horus now |
| 00:19.54 | C4away | what's asterisk say about these phones? |
| 00:19.55 | Nugget | horus was the egyption god war. |
| 00:20.10 | C4away | you should do a sip debug ip <ip of phone> |
| 00:20.22 | rue_mohr | for the third time I am |
| 00:20.40 | C4away | was that to me? |
| 00:20.58 | rue_mohr | sigh |
| 00:21.08 | C4away | I just deleted my next line of text to clarify |
| 00:21.31 | C4away | was that directed at me? |
| 00:22.51 | rue_mohr | for the 4th time, I have set sip debug on for the phones ip |
| 00:22.51 | C4away | you want to look for a REGISTER packet followed by a TRYING or 403 Unauthorized or some such packet, then the phone should send another REGISTER (this time with the password) and then a 200 OK from asterisk |
| 00:22.54 | rue_mohr | its getting nothing at all |
| 00:23.08 | rue_mohr | the only messages I see are form the polycom reregistering |
| 00:23.55 | C4away | in sip.conf do you have deny= and permit= + |
| 00:23.57 | *** join/#asterisk stevetotaro (n=Steve@pool-71-254-231-87.hrbgpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:23.59 | C4away | ? rather |
| 00:24.13 | rue_mohr | deny all and allow g729 |
| 00:24.17 | C4away | not allow= and disallow |
| 00:24.22 | C4away | deny= and permit |
| 00:24.30 | C4away | do you have those in sip.conf? |
| 00:24.32 | C4away | for the users |
| 00:24.39 | rue_mohr | disallow=all allow=ulaw |
| 00:25.01 | rue_mohr | just like all 12 other accounts that are identicle |
| 00:25.11 | C4away | for example deny=0.0.0.0/0 permit=12.34.56.78/32 |
| 00:25.17 | C4away | so is that a yes or no? |
| 00:25.20 | rue_mohr | hu? what file? |
| 00:25.32 | C4away | I don't care about any of the other 12 accounts or the other 20 settings on said 12 accounts |
| 00:25.42 | C4away | C4away: in sip.conf do you have deny= and permit= |
| 00:25.48 | C4away | C4away: do you have those in sip.conf? |
| 00:25.52 | rue_mohr | no |
| 00:26.00 | C4away | ok, that can cause that issue |
| 00:26.48 | C4away | try tcpdump -n -i eth0 -v host <ip.of.phone> and port 5060 |
| 00:27.04 | C4away | or ethX whatever your ethernet interface is, if you have only one you can probabbly omit that |
| 00:27.31 | C4away | once that is running reboot the phone |
| 00:27.40 | C4away | see if you get any traffic to the server |
| 00:27.57 | C4away | on 5060, since it seems the TFTP connection is working |
| 00:28.04 | rue_mohr | ftp |
| 00:28.09 | C4away | er yea that |
| 00:28.18 | *** join/#asterisk JAMMAN2110 (n=James@unaffiliated/jamman2110) |
| 00:28.58 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@201.193.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 00:29.44 | rue_mohr | 1/2hr left before I get the final "is it workign yet" of the day |
| 00:29.59 | rue_mohr | oops, nope that half hour already passed |
| 00:30.39 | rue_mohr | *blink* NOTHING!? from the phone after a reboot!? nothing from tcpdump!? |
| 00:31.01 | rue_mohr | you didn't specify udp |
| 00:31.05 | rue_mohr | ? |
| 00:31.09 | C4away | you don't need to |
| 00:31.18 | C4away | it will match all 5060 traffic |
| 00:31.36 | rue_mohr | why wasn't there ANYTHING |
| 00:31.40 | C4away | dns issue? |
| 00:31.46 | C4away | wrong proxy address? |
| 00:31.58 | *** join/#asterisk _ShrikE (n=_ShrikE@adsl-074-185-215-060.sip.msy.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:31.59 | rue_mohr | nope just checked |
| 00:33.14 | C4away | go to troubleshooting, get local config, save, open with a text editor |
| 00:33.25 | C4away | do the same for server.cfg |
| 00:33.50 | gmfm | what could possibly cause one-way audio if there is no NAT involved? |
| 00:33.52 | *** join/#asterisk jaytee (n=jforde05@unaffiliated/jaytee) |
| 00:34.11 | C4away | gmfm: canreinvite |
| 00:34.31 | C4away | if softphone, another device bound to port |
| 00:34.40 | C4away | Imean, another app bound to port |
| 00:35.04 | gmfm | hmm canreinvite=no on the device entries |
| 00:35.23 | gmfm | the polycom is connected directly to a cable modem |
| 00:35.42 | C4away | rue_work: if you have configured nothing from the web gui then local.cfg should be empty, any settings there will overide server.cfg |
| 00:35.54 | gmfm | and the server is located in a DC on a public IP |
| 00:36.09 | C4away | server.cfg should have the sip lineX proxy ip: ... setting correct |
| 00:36.11 | gmfm | oh, and the best part, it's intermittent |
| 00:36.14 | Dovid | hi anyone here using mpg123 for MOH as a stream ? |
| 00:36.26 | C4away | gmfm: your isp may be blocking/degrading UDP or that specific port |
| 00:36.35 | C4away | comcast has been known to do it, even though they will never admit it |
| 00:36.45 | Dovid | seems to not want to work with Windows Media encoder. trying to find some kind of windows app that it will work with |
| 00:36.49 | C4away | when you call them they say "you should switch to our better service" |
| 00:37.02 | gmfm | lol |
| 00:37.10 | *** join/#asterisk fogo (n=Paul@69.169.132.35) |
| 00:37.23 | C4away | Dovid: try a different source for your audio |
| 00:37.32 | gmfm | C4away: in this case the cable provider is roadrunner |
| 00:37.39 | rue_work | defaults the phone |
| 00:37.46 | C4away | I don't know for sure since we have only comcast here |
| 00:37.51 | Dovid | C4away: do you know of any good windows apps that will work with mpg123 ? |
| 00:38.00 | C4away | windows app for a music source? |
| 00:38.19 | C4away | Dovid: I need more info about your setup |
| 00:38.52 | Dovid | C4away: I want to stream from a windows server and have mpg123 connect to it and play the stream |
| 00:38.55 | C4away | winamp with the DSP plugin for shoutcast will generate a music source that can go to a shoutcast server that can provide a streaming audio source for asterisk |
| 00:39.05 | C4away | but the DSP plugin is crap |
| 00:39.09 | Dovid | when I have mpg123 try to get a stream from windows media encoder it fails |
| 00:39.23 | C4away | you have to unload it before closing winamp or it will die a horrible death |
| 00:39.38 | C4away | windows media is a wma stream, not an mpg stream |
| 00:39.56 | *** join/#asterisk chi6IT41 (n=chigital@tmo-100-70.customers.d1-online.com) |
| 00:39.59 | C4away | there is alsoa shoutcast application that can stream to a shoutcast server |
| 00:40.04 | Dovid | C4away: do you think winamp would work ? |
| 00:40.06 | C4away | and you can always use icecast |
| 00:40.15 | Dovid | i tried icecase i think |
| 00:40.34 | C4away | I use icecast now, wouldn't go back to shoutcast again in a million years |
| 00:40.47 | Dovid | yes. i installed it but coundt fingure out (from what I remember late last night) |
| 00:40.53 | C4away | you have to jump through some hoops to get icecast to work with mp3s |
| 00:41.10 | C4away | why do you need a stream for MoH source? |
| 00:41.18 | Dovid | C4away: I want to stream from audio coming in to the mic input |
| 00:41.29 | C4away | just use the mic input on the asterisk server |
| 00:41.40 | C4away | take about 500% of the complexity out of the entire process |
| 00:42.29 | Dovid | C4away: server is in a colo in another country ;) client wants to call in and hear what is going on where the windows server is |
| 00:42.34 | Dovid | can I do this with icecast ? |
| 00:42.49 | rue_work | k and it redownloaded its config from the server and says no service, the asterisk machine sees no traffic from it |
| 00:42.54 | C4away | why not set up a softphone on the windows server? |
| 00:43.02 | C4away | set it to autoanswer |
| 00:43.10 | C4away | call an extension, listen to audio from mic |
| 00:43.21 | Dovid | they want an audip input. i goto work with what they want :( |
| 00:43.31 | C4away | huh? |
| 00:43.45 | C4away | how is a softphone not an audio input? |
| 00:44.08 | C4away | they want the ability to hear what's going on at that location? |
| 00:44.13 | Dovid | u have a point there. |
| 00:44.14 | C4away | you mean like a baby monitor type thing? |
| 00:44.24 | Dovid | not sure exactly what they want it for |
| 00:44.34 | Dovid | where can I get the DSP plug in ? |
| 00:44.40 | Dovid | for winamp ? |
| 00:44.56 | C4away | waste of time if your most recent description is accurate |
| 00:45.04 | C4away | but you can get it from the winamp website |
| 00:45.09 | C4away | "download plugins" or something |
| 00:45.15 | C4away | maybe from the shoutcast site |
| 00:45.21 | C4away | I dunno, haven't used shoutcast in years |
| 00:45.27 | Dovid | loking there under dsp. cant seem to figure ou which one ;) |
| 00:45.36 | C4away | shoutcast source |
| 00:45.45 | C4away | might have to go to the shoutcast site |
| 00:45.50 | rue_work | hahaha |
| 00:46.06 | rue_work | a program I made will make it a sinch to view the logs form the phone! |
| 00:46.20 | *** join/#asterisk sysreq (n=sysreq@unaffiliated/sysreq) |
| 00:46.27 | C4away | but I would not use that technology for what you are saying they want |
| 00:46.36 | C4away | too complex, too many points of failure, too much work to set up |
| 00:46.49 | C4away | just install a softphone, set the input to the mic, and register it to the server |
| 00:47.02 | C4away | they call in, dial extension for softphone, and they hear whatever is on that mic |
| 00:47.06 | Gopher_77 | lspci tells me that ths FXO/FXS device is controlled by the hisax driver; how do I know where to find the devices? |
| 00:47.53 | Gopher_77 | s/driver/kernel module/ |
| 00:48.06 | Dovid | C4away: some times i think too hard. TK knows all too well..... |
| 00:48.12 | Gopher_77 | wow that was interesting |
| 00:49.25 | C4away | Dovid: you will need a softphone that has an auto-answer setting, I think zoiper might |
| 00:49.38 | C4away | play around with a few and see what settings they have |
| 00:50.32 | C4away | if you want to get creative (which it seems you do) you can create a conference bridge with all parties muted except the softphone and when that conference is created it calls the softphone and bridges it in |
| 00:50.43 | C4away | then multiple people can call and listen to the fans in the server room |
| 00:52.14 | C4away | or the sobbing of the admins when their site gets slashdotted |
| 00:52.33 | C4away | slashDDoSd is more like it though |
| 00:54.44 | drmessano | ATA |
| 00:54.48 | drmessano | Mic preamp |
| 00:54.52 | drmessano | Small xformer |
| 00:54.57 | drmessano | 70v diac |
| 00:54.58 | drmessano | Done |
| 00:55.09 | drmessano | Instant room listener |
| 00:56.23 | drmessano | or the crazy inexpensive softphone thing C4away-Look-At-Me-Im-A-PBX-Dog came up with |
| 00:56.27 | drmessano | DONT TRUST REDHEADS |
| 00:56.36 | drmessano | I mean... Thats a good idea, C4away |
| 00:57.49 | C4away | haha |
| 00:57.58 | C4away | and what exactly is A-PBX-Dog? |
| 00:58.07 | C4away | and why am I C4away? |
| 00:58.15 | C4colo | must have lost connection at some point |
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| 01:01.17 | drmessano | I dunno |
| 01:01.21 | drmessano | I just dont know |
| 01:04.47 | C4colo | drmessano: humor is not allowed in here |
| 01:05.02 | C4colo | you must be grumpy and only begrudgingly helpful |
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| 01:05.28 | C4colo | take [TK]D-Fender's additude as an example |
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| 01:06.03 | JAMMAN2110 | C4colo, did you see my question last night? |
| 01:06.11 | C4colo | no |
| 01:06.18 | C4colo | I doubt I was on here last nigt |
| 01:06.27 | JAMMAN2110 | Pity |
| 01:07.42 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: IWMWB :) |
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| 01:12.06 | mchou | bmoraca: what's so bad about aastra phones? |
| 01:12.46 | viator | we are looking for a setup to compliment our old avaya r7 to be able to record lines |
| 01:13.35 | viator | think of a company that can do it that is for less than 12 to 15k that ive been quoted so far |
| 01:13.49 | viator | i mean can you guys think of* |
| 01:14.33 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: Some details would help... |
| 01:14.41 | viator | id like it to be built on asterisk thats why i thought id ask here |
| 01:14.43 | viator | well |
| 01:14.59 | viator | we have a t1 i dont know if its pri or channelized |
| 01:15.14 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: Just 1? |
| 01:15.18 | viator | we only need to record 4 lines basicly |
| 01:16.01 | viator | i dont have all the deatails as of yet |
| 01:16.26 | viator | but no one at our company seems to know and ie been tasked with looking into it lol |
| 01:16.35 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: Well for a single T1 system you'd just need a 2-port T1 card and a little bit of dialplan. |
| 01:16.43 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: cost < $1000 |
| 01:17.30 | viator | we nned to be able to look at search for certain recorded calls |
| 01:17.36 | Gopher_77 | 4 port card ~ $230 |
| 01:17.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Oh? Which? |
| 01:18.54 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: I bought an openvox A400 series, but I haven't figured out how to get it working with * yet... |
| 01:19.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: that is an ANALOG card.... |
| 01:20.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: And from a company I'd never buy from. |
| 01:20.26 | viator | any one deal with eus before |
| 01:20.43 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: yes, if you want to deal with POTS, you'll need to buy an ANALOG card |
| 01:20.45 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: ...who? |
| 01:20.59 | viator | eus networks i think they are called one sec |
| 01:21.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Who said anything about POTS? Please follow the conversation. |
| 01:21.50 | viator | yeah eus networks |
| 01:22.26 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: it would help if I knew telephone hardware better I suppose |
| 01:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: never heard of... |
| 01:23.17 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Quite possibly. |
| 01:23.27 | viator | i guess they are in with digium |
| 01:23.34 | viator | well digium pointed me at them |
| 01:24.15 | viator | but i have a feeling they are gonna give me another 15k + quote lol |
| 01:24.54 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: this is nothing complicated. |
| 01:25.12 | viator | they act like it is all these ppl ive called |
| 01:25.17 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: lets say we go for a better card w/ HWEC, maybe $1500 total |
| 01:25.44 | viator | i guess maybe its for a sever the card and installation? |
| 01:28.35 | viator | we are just a small company and we cant spend that much right now but we MUST have lines recorded |
| 01:28.57 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: a setup that just takes calls in one side, spits them out the other and records is no big deal. |
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| 01:32.12 | Micc | Why would I need a phone with more than one line if asterisk is going to be doing all the connecting to other lines and stuff? |
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| 01:33.57 | Micc | I guess I would want more than one line to show calls on other lines. |
| 01:34.18 | viator | i understand how it works but im not a telecom tech its a little above me |
| 01:34.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: you need to be very clear about this device's definition of "line" |
| 01:34.45 | viator | i could def install the card into the box and install asterisk but as for the ste up after the fac |
| 01:34.47 | viator | t |
| 01:34.52 | Micc | TKD-Fender, take the aastra 9112i for instance. |
| 01:34.54 | [TK]D-Fender | viator: this is a basic * setup. Tiny dialplan. |
| 01:35.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Most phone's definition of "lines" is how many distinct REGISTRATIONS it supports. This usually doesn't really matter as most people only register to 1 server. How many simultaneous CALLS it is capable of handling is another matter. |
| 01:36.40 | Micc | I need to be able to show the status of 5 different lines/extensions. |
| 01:36.44 | Micc | from one phone. |
| 01:36.53 | Micc | and be able to pickup a call on hold. |
| 01:37.05 | Micc | from any of those extensions. |
| 01:38.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: you are mixing terms. |
| 01:38.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: First you something a "line" then you call it an "extension" |
| 01:38.35 | Micc | I have to replace the existing NEC pbx with asterisk and keep the same functionality but with new phones. |
| 01:38.47 | Micc | TKD-Fender, I know. |
| 01:38.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: And then become vague on WHO placed a call on "hold" |
| 01:39.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: You are NOT going to get KEY-SYSTEM FUNCTIONALITY WITH *. tHAT ISN'T HOW CALLS ARE MANAGED |
| 01:39.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Darn caps. |
| 01:39.19 | Micc | TKD-Fender, ok, well I'm not sure what term I should use because I don't know how to do it yet. |
| 01:39.34 | Micc | TKD-Fender, I"m not sure if its a seperate extensions or a seperate registration |
| 01:40.07 | Micc | what is KEY-SYSTEM Functionality? |
| 01:40.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: What you are looking for is not supported |
| 01:40.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: the concept of over-associating a button on a phone as a "line" that you can just put on hold and then see flashing on another phone and jsut grab |
| 01:41.03 | Micc | TKD-Fender, ok, but I can do it in a way with parked calls. |
| 01:41.36 | Micc | TKD-Fender, I just want to know if its possible to program a phone to work like what I'm describing by using a meeter maid parking system. |
| 01:41.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Yes you can "park", but to see the lots on a phone will take some work with a phone that supports BLF subscriptions, etc |
| 01:42.47 | Micc | TKD-Fender, have you ever setup a phone like that? |
| 01:43.26 | Micc | TKD-Fender, it seems to me that this would be a common thing that people will want from asterisk. |
| 01:43.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: No. Most places don't even bother with parking. |
| 01:43.43 | Micc | TKD-Fender, then is there another way to do it? |
| 01:44.07 | Micc | TKD-Fender, I guess they really want transfer. |
| 01:44.23 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: And since most phones are somewhat limited for the number of subscriptions they can show presence on its hardly proactical. |
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| 01:46.18 | Micc | TKD-Fender, so couldn't I show presence on a couple of extensions, and have the button next to it pickup that extension? |
| 01:46.43 | Micc | isn't that what BLF is? I mean, is BLF the same as presence? |
| 01:47.13 | Micc | The aastra 480i's can show presence on 4-5 extensions. |
| 01:48.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Doesn't cause to to pickup a call they held, etc |
| 01:48.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: you can see if they are on a call or are ringing. Thats about it. You cannot hijack a call they held, etc. |
| 01:49.08 | Micc | TKD-Fender, if I setup that phone to when held park the call instead, then I could pickup that parked call. |
| 01:49.42 | Micc | Or I could even show presence on th park location, right? |
| 01:49.57 | Micc | So you wouldn't see the other phones, but when someone was in a park location you could see that? |
| 01:50.16 | Micc | I would just need to be able to program the hold button. |
| 01:50.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Yes, but you'd have to have enough indicators free on your phone for the number of lots, etc you want to monitor |
| 01:50.39 | Micc | Or, tell them to use a special hold softkey instead of the labeled hold key on the phone. |
| 01:51.04 | Micc | TKD-Fender, I just want to monitor 4 slots. |
| 01:51.56 | Micc | TKD-Fender, also can't you get extension modules for phones that have a bunch more keys and indicators? |
| 01:52.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: not on 480i's |
| 01:53.13 | Micc | TKD-Fender, right but I've seen other phones with those. |
| 01:53.25 | Micc | I only need 4 on the 480i. |
| 01:54.19 | Micc | Are there any other SIP pbx systems that do what I'm talking about? It seems like every commercial place I go, they have phones setup this way. |
| 01:54.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: you don't get 4... |
| 01:54.41 | Micc | TKD-Fender, there are 6 softkeys. |
| 01:54.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Other SIP PBX's may support this, but * does not. |
| 01:55.04 | Micc | I already have a 480i showing presense on 3 lines. |
| 01:55.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Ah, yes, via softkeys... may be possible.. you might also have to scroll through screens to see thm all |
| 01:55.21 | Micc | But the pickup only works when that device/line is ringing. |
| 01:55.30 | Micc | TKD, right. |
| 01:57.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: and pickup will require all sorts of funky dialplan trickery to implement |
| 01:57.31 | Micc | I guess I"m going to have to hack asterisk then. |
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| 01:58.37 | eppigy | HACK THE WHOLE GIBSON |
| 02:02.18 | Micc | oh man, this is going to suck. |
| 02:03.29 | Micc | It shouldn't be too hard, maybe I can even make a new line hijack app. |
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| 02:05.51 | [TK]D-Fender | The hardest part of blind optimism? Reconnecting the severed optic nerve when you don't like what you (don't) see. |
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| 02:09.26 | dan__t | Well. That sucked. |
| 02:13.32 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: I dont know how much hacking that 1.4.15 copy of Asterisk micc has is gonna take |
| 02:14.03 | drmessano | May need more dilithium crystals.. or seperate the saucer |
| 02:15.21 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: dOES HE EVEN HAVE THE CUP? ;) |
| 02:15.41 | drmessano | lol |
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| 02:20.04 | Micc | TKD-Fender, isn't SLA what I want? |
| 02:20.24 | Micc | drmessano, thats 1.4.21 |
| 02:21.03 | Micc | I mean 1.4.22 actually |
| 02:21.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Yes, |
| 02:22.08 | Gopher_77 | can hisax be used with asterisk to interface with a card? |
| 02:22.43 | Micc | TKD-Fender, then why did you just tell me that asterisk doesn't support what I want? |
| 02:23.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Because * does not support SLA. What is passed of as SLA is a ditry hack that pretends to be SLA |
| 02:23.36 | eppigy | SMOKE PURP BY THE POUND |
| 02:23.51 | Micc | what is this then? http://www.asterisk.org/node/48342 |
| 02:23.58 | Micc | Is that the hack? |
| 02:24.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: The dirty hack in question. |
| 02:25.28 | Micc | He says it was rewritten for 1.4.1 |
| 02:27.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Are you somehow expecting my answer to change? |
| 02:28.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Realiz that we are on One Dot Four Dot TWENTY-THREE AND CHANGE |
| 02:28.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: And it hasn't changed. |
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| 02:29.13 | BBHoss | eppigy: goose by the fifth |
| 02:29.47 | Micc | So how bad is the hack? |
| 02:29.58 | Micc | I just need it to work. |
| 02:30.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Go try stuff and see for yourself. You don't seem to want to listen. |
| 02:31.00 | Micc | TKD-Fender, I'm listening. Dirty hack isn't very descriptive. |
| 02:31.08 | Micc | TKD-Fender, you're being vangue now. |
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| 02:33.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Doesn't work for PHONES, only "lines", useless on PRI, hacks its way with Meetme, forces a screwball dialplan and setting up tons of BLY. |
| 02:33.12 | [TK]D-Fender | BLF* |
| 02:33.59 | Micc | Got it, thanks. |
| 02:34.06 | BBHoss | if you want to know what phones are busy, you want presence |
| 02:34.35 | Micc | I want presence with a way to hijack a call on hold. |
| 02:34.47 | Micc | I saw one application that did a transfer. |
| 02:35.08 | Micc | But it was a hack too, define a variable with the device to transfer it to and it takes a while. |
| 02:35.20 | BBHoss | Micc: does it all have to be done via the phone? |
| 02:35.25 | Micc | so it essentially transfers the call on hold to your phone. |
| 02:35.51 | Micc | BBHoss, no, in fact is should all be done on the asterisk side. |
| 02:36.00 | BBHoss | no i mean the interface to do it with |
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| 02:37.20 | Micc | BBHoss, oh, yes. I know we could use some astman api app. |
| 02:37.21 | BBHoss | if you just wanted to be able to pickup calls on hold, you could write a simple web application that would expose calls on hold and thier extensions (users) |
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| 02:37.43 | BBHoss | then do an XML webbrowser interface so you could do it from the phone |
| 02:37.58 | Micc | BBHoss, you know thats a great idea. I can write a php script or something and have asterisk execute it from an extension. |
| 02:38.11 | BBHoss | then if on the phone they pick a call or something, the app sends a manager transfer to you |
| 02:38.24 | Micc | BBHoss, thats a great idea. |
| 02:38.25 | BBHoss | or to whatever phone "picks up" the call |
| 02:38.40 | BBHoss | most modern phones have this interface |
| 02:38.56 | BBHoss | with aastra's you can even remap keys |
| 02:39.06 | BBHoss | polycom is more like a traditional webbrowser |
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| 02:40.44 | Micc | If I do a transfer then I'll have to wait for the phone to ring, right? |
| 02:40.52 | Micc | so they can't pickup the phone then hit that button. |
| 02:41.03 | Micc | or they would hit the button and hangup again. |
| 02:41.15 | Micc | or can the transfer interrupt the dialtone? |
| 02:42.18 | eppigy | BBHoss: true |
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| 02:46.31 | Micc | can someone spoof an asterisk sip session? I heard someone could spoof the packets and make calls on my system if I don't have an SBC. |
| 02:49.20 | Micc | I keep getting this: -- Incoming call: Got SIP response 500 "Server Internal Error" back from 97.113.1.157 |
| 02:49.37 | Micc | And that IP isn't even one of my peers. |
| 02:50.12 | Micc | I have a 97.113.17.176 as a peer, but why would I get something from .157?? |
| 02:50.59 | BBHoss | Micc: they would access that interface through the phone's browser, which would not require the set to be picked up |
| 02:52.19 | Micc | that would be too complicated for my customers. They would pickup the phone and hit the button, or press the button and pick it up before the transfer. |
| 02:52.41 | BBHoss | i dont think you understand |
| 02:52.55 | BBHoss | are your customers using IP phones, or ATAs? |
| 02:53.13 | Micc | IP phones. |
| 02:53.25 | Micc | some use ATAs. |
| 02:53.38 | BBHoss | then whats the problem with them hitting the button and the phone ringing, which they then of course pick up? |
| 02:54.26 | Micc | The problem with it is, I would have to tell them to hit the button first and wait for the ring. Which they would do maybe, but other times they would forget and do it the way they have been for years. |
| 02:54.39 | Micc | Then they would get frustrated because the call was lost or something. |
| 02:55.06 | BBHoss | well then you don't care about presence, you just want them to be able to holler "Hey bob you got a call on line 2" right? |
| 02:55.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Then stop trying to butcher * into some sad attempt to emulate features it doesn't have and have them CHANGE |
| 02:55.31 | Micc | TKD-Fender, they won't. |
| 02:55.35 | BBHoss | [TK]D-Fender: you can't make people change, especially when they are paying you |
| 02:55.58 | BBHoss | they'll just say fuck it and keep trucking with what they have |
| 02:55.58 | Micc | I've already tried. They've been complaining and want to switch back because it doesn't do this thing they think is so simple. |
| 02:56.18 | Micc | BBHoss, exactly. |
| 02:56.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Then don't try passing * off to them and sell them some other solution |
| 02:56.32 | BBHoss | Micc: you just want SLA then |
| 02:56.44 | Micc | BBHoss, yeah if it would actually work. |
| 02:57.35 | Micc | TKD-Fender, if I sell them some other solution, then my price wouldn't be as competative. |
| 02:57.53 | Micc | Asterisk is great because its free. |
| 02:58.06 | BBHoss | do you want them to be able to see their buddies on the phone, then be able to barge in on it, or do you want them to just see the "lines" they have, and be able to pickup them? |
| 02:58.17 | Micc | If it can't do what I need it to, I can modify it. |
| 02:58.38 | andy-x_l | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: then maybe you're just screwed |
| 02:58.42 | BBHoss | to do the premier, you'd most likely need to code some C |
| 02:58.43 | andy-x_l | AGI Tx >> 200 result=0 AGI Rx << EXEC Playback(hello-world) [Jan 14 18:56:00] WARNING[4445]: res_agi.c:1115 handle_exec: Could not find appl ication (Playback(hello-world)) AGI Tx >> 200 result=-2 |
| 02:58.44 | Micc | BBHoss, they don't need to barge in, just pickup the call if its on hold. |
| 02:59.07 | BBHoss | Micc: thats not the issue, do you want to monitor lines or phones? |
| 02:59.21 | andy-x_l | can anyone give me some clues re: the right syntax ?? |
| 02:59.23 | Micc | BBHoss, I found an app that does a transfer, but it didn't work when the state was HOLD. |
| 02:59.38 | BBHoss | Micc: answer my question |
| 03:00.03 | Micc | BBHoss, I guess I'm not sure. I want the end result, but if its monitoring lines or phones, I don't know. |
| 03:00.24 | Micc | BBHoss, I don't know how I would partition my SIP trunk into different lines. |
| 03:00.34 | [TK]D-Fender | andy-x_l: pastebin your AGI |
| 03:00.34 | BBHoss | you don't, its virtual |
| 03:00.51 | andy-x_l | k one sec... |
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| 03:01.29 | Micc | BBHoss, if I could make a virtual line from my inbound SIP or IAX2 connections and do it for different customers from the same incoming device, that would work. |
| 03:01.34 | BBHoss | Micc: what is a possible use scenerio of this feature? |
| 03:01.57 | Micc | BBHoss, I would like to limit the number of actual lines they have available for dial-in and out anyways. |
| 03:02.37 | Micc | BBHoss, inbound call comes in, customer answers phone1, then they place the call on hold and pick it up from phone2. |
| 03:02.57 | BBHoss | so we're talking about the same person here |
| 03:02.59 | BBHoss | right? |
| 03:03.17 | Micc | the person on phone1 and phone2 could be the same or different. |
| 03:03.17 | BBHoss | basically they pick it up, then they walk across the room and pick it up? |
| 03:03.31 | Micc | BBHoss, sure. |
| 03:03.43 | Micc | BBHoss, or someone else is already across the room. |
| 03:03.51 | BBHoss | and they just yell over, right? |
| 03:03.56 | Micc | right |
| 03:04.00 | BBHoss | ok |
| 03:04.08 | andy-x_l | [TK]D-Fender: Here is the URL to my pastie... http://pastie.org/361134 |
| 03:04.14 | BBHoss | have you tried getting them to use a parking lot? |
| 03:04.28 | Micc | BBHoss, not yet, but that was my next idea I would try. |
| 03:04.54 | BBHoss | thats what i would try to get them to do, it's a much cleaner solution than most others |
| 03:04.54 | Micc | BBHoss, I thought I could get them to use a special mapped key for hold instead of the actual hold button. |
| 03:05.04 | BBHoss | well basically |
| 03:05.13 | BBHoss | you just want to park a call, then it read back a number |
| 03:05.23 | BBHoss | then they yell, "Hey joe dial 701!!!" |
| 03:05.24 | [TK]D-Fender | andy-x_l: I asked you to show me your AGI... |
| 03:05.51 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Which is what he doesn't want because thats not "how it works now" |
| 03:05.53 | Micc | Or, just have 3 parking stalls. and program each phone to have those 3 parking spots mapped to keys. |
| 03:06.47 | Micc | TKD-Fender, No, I do want that. That is fine, the only thing is, I don't want them to have to know 701 or 702, I want them to see Park1, or Line1 and Line2. |
| 03:06.56 | Micc | No numbers, just buttons. |
| 03:07.02 | Micc | Which are easy to program on the aastra. |
| 03:07.38 | andy-x_l | [TK]D-Fender: I solved the issue - thanks for your response !! |
| 03:07.41 | BBHoss | [TK]D-Fender: quit trolling this guy, if you've never been in a position where a customer wants something and nothing else (if you don't provide it they fire you), then you can't accurately speak here and not sound like a telephony-nerd with aspergers syndrome |
| 03:08.09 | Micc | They would have to be able to see the status of the parking spots, then they'll see, oh I just put them in spot 3, then they can yell "hey, pickup park3" |
| 03:08.20 | BBHoss | basically it's either he provides this or he loses his job and (probably) much needed money |
| 03:08.52 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: And at the same time if you just deperately want something * doesn't do and jsut want to whine about it then go do something different |
| 03:09.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: And with basic presence you can BLF a few lots. |
| 03:09.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: as I said a long while back. But only a few |
| 03:09.19 | Micc | TKD-Fender, I"m not whining about it, I'm just trying to brain storm the best solution. |
| 03:09.30 | drmessano | No point in educating the customer and giving them something better |
| 03:09.36 | Micc | TKD-Fender, thats fine, I only need a few. |
| 03:09.45 | drmessano | Better to cater to their needs, even if it puts you out, and even if its a bad idea |
| 03:10.04 | eppigy | I HAVE ETHICS |
| 03:10.27 | Micc | I think that presence with BLF on the parking spots will work. |
| 03:10.27 | [TK]D-Fender | eppigy: Now if only you could tackle that Tourettes issue ;) |
| 03:10.32 | eppigy | 8[] |
| 03:10.41 | Micc | At least for now, until I can hack up something else to work. |
| 03:11.03 | Micc | And it won't even violate my ethics. |
| 03:11.19 | eppigy | SEMANTICS |
| 03:12.22 | NovceGuru | anybody used Cyberdatas voip overhead paging devices? |
| 03:14.32 | [TK]D-Fender | andy-x_l: I would guess you put actual () into your AGI, correct? |
| 03:16.01 | andy-x_l | [TK]D-Fender: I just used 'Playback hello-world' without the parens |
| 03:16.13 | andy-x_l | just a matter of fiddling with the syntax a bit... |
| 03:17.24 | dan__t | Hi. |
| 03:18.59 | drmessano | Symantec? |
| 03:19.04 | drmessano | NOOO |
| 03:19.19 | *** join/#asterisk kisu_ (n=kisu@2001:5c0:1100:9900:8453:e522:acd1:99dc) |
| 03:19.20 | eppigy | d: |
| 03:19.21 | drmessano | "Symantec Endpoint Security For Asterisk PBX" |
| 03:19.22 | eppigy | D: |
| 03:19.44 | eppigy | Symantec Kill Your Family |
| 03:20.03 | drmessano | So who is gonna die first.. |
| 03:20.07 | drmessano | Patrick Swayze |
| 03:20.11 | drmessano | Or Steve Jobs |
| 03:20.13 | eppigy | Steve jobs |
| 03:20.25 | drmessano | Think so? |
| 03:20.27 | eppigy | i dont know if you remember |
| 03:20.33 | eppigy | but swayze was in road house |
| 03:20.40 | eppigy | i rest my case |
| 03:20.41 | *** join/#asterisk Kumbang (n=dsp@167.205.24.69) |
| 03:20.43 | drmessano | HELL YES I REMEMBER |
| 03:20.52 | drmessano | BEST. MOVIE. DAMN. EVER/ |
| 03:20.59 | eppigy | agreed |
| 03:21.09 | eppigy | ITS MY WAY |
| 03:21.10 | NovceGuru | drmessano: WTF is that? ("Symantec Endpoint Security For Asterisk PBX") |
| 03:21.15 | eppigy | OR THE HIGHWAY |
| 03:21.17 | drmessano | Mullets, flannel, beer, and kickin ass!!! |
| 03:21.25 | drmessano | How can it get better? |
| 03:21.29 | eppigy | NovceGuru: what are you from north korea? |
| 03:21.44 | NovceGuru | maybe |
| 03:21.46 | drmessano | No, if he was from North Korea he would have a copy |
| 03:21.47 | eppigy | i see |
| 03:21.52 | eppigy | oh true |
| 03:21.53 | eppigy | lol |
| 03:21.56 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: SES? Symantec Endpoint Security seriously pisses me off at work. its a completely vile resource hog and bloated |
| 03:22.11 | drmessano | Indeed |
| 03:22.15 | eppigy | kill the development teams family |
| 03:22.16 | NovceGuru | I avoid symantec like the plague |
| 03:22.25 | eppigy | CISCO ASA |
| 03:22.25 | drmessano | SAV10 was decent, 11 is a cancer |
| 03:22.26 | eppigy | 4 |
| 03:22.28 | eppigy | LYFE |
| 03:22.45 | drmessano | ThunderByte Antivirus for DOS and Windows |
| 03:22.47 | drmessano | 4eva |
| 03:22.49 | eppigy | true |
| 03:23.05 | eppigy | PESKY MACRO VIRII |
| 03:23.11 | drmessano | I had a friend of mine.. heh |
| 03:23.14 | drmessano | He umm |
| 03:23.34 | drmessano | He was "authorized to distribute license keys" for ThunderByte |
| 03:23.36 | NovceGuru | Antivirus2009 |
| 03:23.51 | NovceGuru | must have a good method of tricking users into installing their malware |
| 03:23.52 | eppigy | i see |
| 03:23.53 | drmessano | Actually, he had a keygen.. but that was his line |
| 03:24.11 | eppigy | NovceGuru: yes it has self propogated quite well |
| 03:24.18 | drmessano | Antivirus2009 is a bitch |
| 03:24.22 | eppigy | INTO YOUR MOM |
| 03:24.30 | drmessano | Took me like 10 mins to upgrade from Antivirus2008 to it |
| 03:24.34 | eppigy | lol |
| 03:24.37 | drmessano | I had to go to like 10 porn sites to find it |
| 03:24.38 | eppigy | lollin irl |
| 03:24.51 | drmessano | and then to MSN.com |
| 03:24.51 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: NovceGuru http://www.jimvernon.com/images/linuxvirus.jpg |
| 03:24.52 | drmessano | and BAM |
| 03:24.53 | NovceGuru | 2009 came out like 2 weeks after 2009! |
| 03:25.17 | eppigy | excellent dev team |
| 03:25.21 | drmessano | AHHAHA yes |
| 03:25.25 | eppigy | they are mentoring the asterisk team |
| 03:25.25 | drmessano | Oh, and did you know |
| 03:25.26 | dan__t | Alright, now to troubleshoot why I still can't load any modules.... |
| 03:25.26 | NovceGuru | [TK]D-Fender: ahh! I wondered how my somewhat savvy end users were getting hit with that |
| 03:25.35 | drmessano | It uses geolocation for the dollar values? |
| 03:25.47 | eppigy | negative |
| 03:25.55 | drmessano | We had a guy travel to the UK and get infected.. the values were in pounds and euros |
| 03:26.01 | drmessano | He packs up his laptop |
| 03:26.05 | drmessano | Gets on a plane |
| 03:26.09 | eppigy | I live in vietnam my currency is dongs |
| 03:26.14 | drmessano | Flies back.. and the values changed to dollars |
| 03:26.19 | eppigy | wow |
| 03:26.30 | drmessano | Yes, completely brilliantr |
| 03:26.32 | drmessano | -r |
| 03:26.43 | NovceGuru | [TK]D-Fender: actual url doesn't work anymore :( |
| 03:26.48 | drmessano | If only THOSE guys coded ANTImalware software |
| 03:26.55 | eppigy | they probably do |
| 03:27.00 | eppigy | i mean lets be honest here |
| 03:27.07 | eppigy | we know the government did 9/11 |
| 03:27.19 | eppigy | antivirus retailers write virii |
| 03:27.25 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: The pic? |
| 03:27.29 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: that does... |
| 03:27.31 | eppigy | just when people are like |
| 03:27.36 | eppigy | man i dont need norton |
| 03:27.40 | NovceGuru | the pic but the url referenced in the pic |
| 03:27.41 | eppigy | BAM |
| 03:27.49 | eppigy | gay porn everywhere |
| 03:27.51 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: Yeah, there's been a crackdown. |
| 03:27.54 | [TK]D-Fender | (of sorts) |
| 03:28.11 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: but thats not the poitn :) |
| 03:28.37 | NovceGuru | yeah, I was just gonna go look at their web source code, was curious what they were using |
| 03:28.41 | NovceGuru | </bored> |
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| 03:49.51 | [TK]D-Fender | is slowly starting to gt his Minesweeper skillz back... |
| 03:51.23 | NovceGuru | anybody know of SIP loudspeaker amplifiers? The cyberdata systems seem pricey |
| 03:52.54 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: what are you looking for, independant amp's speakers, or a central amp? |
| 03:54.11 | NovceGuru | Just a single loudspeaker setup |
| 03:54.31 | NovceGuru | idealy the SIP device has the amp built in, only need 10-20 amps |
| 03:54.33 | NovceGuru | watts |
| 03:54.38 | NovceGuru | fai |
| 03:54.42 | NovceGuru | fails at failing |
| 03:54.58 | NovceGuru | http://www.voiplink.com/CyberData_010859_p/cyberdata-010859-a.htm is what I was looking at |
| 03:57.02 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: Seen them around before : http://www.voipsupply.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=paging&manufacturers=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voipsupply.com%2F |
| 03:57.43 | NovceGuru | yeah, don't really see anything besides cyberdata |
| 03:57.52 | NovceGuru | I did search first :) |
| 03:59.34 | NovceGuru | O well, kind of a niche thing |
| 04:00.24 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: Rather |
| 04:00.35 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: Most use analog paging units & ATA's |
| 04:02.13 | NovceGuru | yeah |
| 04:04.52 | dan__t | chan_iax2.c: Unable to open IAX timing interface: No such file or directory |
| 04:04.57 | dan__t | Anyone got any tips for that? |
| 04:05.49 | dan__t | oh, it's a warning, non-fatal. |
| 04:07.02 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: No Zaptel or DAHDI loaded and functional |
| 04:07.12 | dan__t | I see. |
| 04:07.14 | dan__t | No harm there. |
| 04:07.31 | dan__t | I did a 'noload' for modules named *dahdi*, and I still see warnings. Normal? |
| 04:07.53 | drmessano | Yes |
| 04:08.02 | drmessano | You have no dahdi |
| 04:08.08 | drmessano | Therefore, no iax2 |
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| 04:08.58 | [TK]D-Fender | (trunking that is) |
| 04:09.00 | id_sonic | Hello, guys. |
| 04:09.24 | drmessano | yeah |
| 04:09.31 | id_sonic | When I use Local Channel, Why always change language to en ? |
| 04:09.42 | id_sonic | My version is 1.4.21 on debian/lenny |
| 04:10.39 | [TK]D-Fender | id_sonic: because there is nowhere to set a default for it |
| 04:10.59 | [TK]D-Fender | id_sonic: Something the could, and probably should fix. |
| 04:11.50 | id_sonic | @[TK]D-Fender: That mean I can't fixed it now? |
| 04:12.56 | [TK]D-Fender | id_sonic: it isn't a setting. |
| 04:13.48 | id_sonic | @[TK]D-Fender: so bad :( |
| 04:14.00 | NovceGuru | [TK]D-Fender: found the AC version for about $300, not terrible really |
| 04:15.23 | NovceGuru | as in AC and not POE powered, don't think poe would provide enough power for decent volume |
| 04:16.18 | [TK]D-Fender | NovceGuru: I can imagine it can. Think about how loud a Ploycom phone can get. Now give it more juice because they use up about what, 5v out of 15? then save some by not having a display, interface, etc |
| 04:18.01 | NovceGuru | yeah it might be pretty decent, although this is going on a on a 20,000 sqft shop floor |
| 04:18.44 | NovceGuru | I have a http://www.chippc.com/ in place and if I can get asterisk or some other sip client to run on it, i'll just feed the audio out into one of the loudspeakers |
| 04:18.51 | drmessano | 13 watts is all you'll get from PoE maxed out, and that doesnt include losses in the AMP |
| 04:19.16 | drmessano | So you would need power.. or multiple PoE connections |
| 04:19.56 | drmessano | Personally, I would use the PoE to charge a battery in the paging horn, and use the battery for pages |
| 04:20.09 | drmessano | Would work brilliantly |
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| 04:20.29 | NovceGuru | yeah that would be good |
| 04:20.45 | NovceGuru | doubt I can find anything commercially available |
| 04:20.56 | NovceGuru | fortuntely I'm close to AC power and can feed that in |
| 04:21.21 | dan__t | erm, I'm working fine with my iax2 provider... |
| 04:21.25 | dan__t | Is that apples and oranges? |
| 04:21.41 | drmessano | Grapes and peanuts |
| 04:21.54 | dan__t | Got it. |
| 04:21.59 | NovceGuru | drmessano: I'd rather not stress the POE switch by maxing out a port also? Probably wouldn't matter...but still :) |
| 04:22.03 | dan__t | Anyone using cepstral products by chance? |
| 04:22.11 | jaytee | I have |
| 04:22.49 | jaytee | but just to do text to speech file production not tts within Asterisk |
| 04:23.14 | drmessano | NovceGuru: I dont think anyone has such a product anyway |
| 04:23.26 | drmessano | NovceGuru: But I would implement it easily |
| 04:23.43 | NovceGuru | Oh I found a SIP based POE powered overhead/paging horn |
| 04:24.01 | NovceGuru | http://www.cyberdata.net/ |
| 04:24.26 | NovceGuru | the little stainless steal intercom is sweet! |
| 04:24.58 | NovceGuru | I found the plugin version for about $320 but still need a ~$50(for a decent) loudspeaker |
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| 04:31.46 | C4colo | is this pattern legit: _X.*XX. ? |
| 04:32.30 | C4colo | will that match 10*1234 and 1234*256 and 333*44444444 ? |
| 04:35.12 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No |
| 04:35.39 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Actually...I believe it WILL, but so much MORE that doesn't look anything like that |
| 04:35.40 | C4colo | the . can only come at the end then? |
| 04:35.45 | [TK]D-Fender | C4yes |
| 04:36.46 | C4colo | well, nothing in my dialplan will start with one or more digits, then a *, then three or more digits |
| 04:36.59 | C4colo | other than those going out this trunk |
| 04:37.07 | C4colo | at least I can't think of anything |
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| 04:37.19 | C4colo | the stars are always at the front of feature codes |
| 04:39.22 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: No pattern way to say "must have an * SOMEWHERE after the 1st char" |
| 04:40.54 | C4colo | so it's not like regex where you could say /\d+*\d{3}+/ ... in the asterisk pattern matching it would confuse it to put a . somewhere in the middle of the pattern? |
| 04:42.21 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: I already just spelled it out... |
| 04:42.42 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: How *'s patterns work its completely documented. No other magic there. |
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| 04:51.45 | C4colo | that's funny |
| 04:52.12 | C4colo | documented |
| 04:52.33 | C4colo | I think I need to post that comment on reddit, that's a good one |
| 04:53.32 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: It has, 2 free populat books, the * Handbook created by Mark Spencer himself, bloged EVERYWHERE, included in your source tarball, on several WIKI's... only thing left is for the aerial fly-by with the trailing banner |
| 04:53.56 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So go right ahead, you're just dead wrong :p |
| 04:54.14 | C4colo | I'm sure some book published more than a month ago is up to date |
| 04:54.25 | carrar | I know I can't figure anything out with a large banner in the air |
| 04:54.33 | carrar | s/with/without/ |
| 04:54.35 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Then again you just went and asked "you mean it isn't just like regex?". This is 101 stuff... |
| 04:54.45 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: Dialplan patterns NEVER CHANGED |
| 04:54.53 | C4colo | that's good to know |
| 04:54.57 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: So thats an empty point |
| 04:55.00 | C4colo | that comment alone would have sufficed |
| 04:55.11 | C4colo | it's still funny to claim that asterisk is documented |
| 04:55.21 | frogonwheels | C4colo: hmm.. not knowing the exact application - but couldn't you match up to the * then use a secondary dialplan to match the rest |
| 04:55.23 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: C4colo It does have a lot of documentation. |
| 04:55.38 | drmessano | Sure it does |
| 04:55.43 | drmessano | I mean, duh, source |
| 04:55.46 | [TK]D-Fender | frogonwheels: Nope. |
| 04:55.49 | frogonwheels | C4colo: s/dialplan/context/ |
| 04:55.56 | C4colo | a lot of conflicting, partial, incomplete, inaccurate, crappy documentation |
| 04:55.58 | C4colo | there is plenty of it |
| 04:56.08 | C4colo | thousands and thousands of pages of crappy documenatation |
| 04:56.15 | carrar | C4colo, where here to help you |
| 04:56.22 | C4colo | which just makes the few valid sources even less credible |
| 04:56.44 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You don't even know how * dialplan patterns work. We know whats documented because we've gone and read it. You don't appear to have. |
| 04:57.23 | C4colo | I know enough to ask when something isn't specifically expressed in documentation that the documentation is probably INCOMPLETE |
| 04:57.29 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: as I said, tarball has it, 2 major books, stuff released direct from the creator of *, and WIKI pages that are actually accurate |
| 04:57.45 | C4colo | and as carrar said, this channel is here to help clear up ambiguious and incomplete docuentation issues |
| 04:58.15 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: not including "oh yeah and you can do like full regex, you know!" isn't an "opps" that would qualify it as being completely crap documentation. Stop stretching |
| 04:58.19 | carrar | This channel is here because people volunteer to help |
| 04:58.34 | drmessano | This channel is here because my BBS is down |
| 04:58.35 | drmessano | DAMNIT |
| 04:58.38 | [TK]D-Fender | C4colo: You never had even the basics, this isn't ambiguous, you sismply never read |
| 04:59.03 | C4colo | wow, much better |
| 04:59.06 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: \o/ for GUI users! |
| 05:00.21 | [TK]D-Fender | hax drmessano's BBS |
| 05:00.21 | C4colo | now that I don't have that [TK]D-Fender guy who can't even understand a simple analogy berating me to increase his manliness-feelings i can actually enjoy this channel a bit more |
| 05:00.44 | C4colo | should have /ignored him a long time ago |
| 05:01.20 | [TK]D-Fender | And FreePBX users who feel that everything in * is hard/incomplete/broken = WTF are you doing here? |
| 05:01.31 | [TK]D-Fender | \o/ |
| 05:02.22 | [TK]D-Fender | can't work out an IF clause, can't do dialplan patterns, can't conceive of a loop in programming. We have a winnar! |
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| 05:02.52 | carrar | C4colo, download the source and look in asterisk/configs/extensions.conf.sample |
| 05:02.54 | frogonwheels | C4colo: I reckon you can do it, btw. but it's probably not pretty. |
| 05:03.13 | Gopher_77 | my zaptel will recognize the two FXO ports, but not the FXS ports. Can I get help fixing this? |
| 05:03.21 | frogonwheels | C4colo: presumably you only want to match one * |
| 05:03.47 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: He's running freePBX. Seriously. He doesn't want to actually learn * or do anything himself. |
| 05:03.52 | carrar | hahah |
| 05:03.54 | Gopher_77 | I get: ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 3: Invalid argument (22) |
| 05:03.55 | carrar | true |
| 05:04.03 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: ===C4colo: member of #asterisk, #freepbx, @#Elastix, and @#voipcoop <--- |
| 05:04.15 | carrar | Need a SPAM bot ^on_join |
| 05:04.20 | BBHoss | [TK]D-Fender: you don't know what you're talking about |
| 05:04.30 | C4colo | carrar: I appreciate the suggestions, I'm the senior network engineer for a CLEC in denver and asterisk is just about all I do anymore, TK just has some issue with being able to understand a complex and specific question without assuming the person asking isn't A) an idiot B) asking a simple noob question C) worthy of being used as a punching bag |
| 05:04.33 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: concerning? |
| 05:04.54 | carrar | C4colo, welcome to the group, you've described most people in here |
| 05:05.05 | C4colo | so, I don't really need simple guides, I was asking if a dot can be used twice in a pattern like it can in regex, or if that would break stuff |
| 05:05.09 | carrar | as in working for clecs etc... |
| 05:05.20 | frogonwheels | C4colo: I thought it was a fair-enough question. |
| 05:05.34 | carrar | most people in here are pretty smart |
| 05:05.47 | frogonwheels | C4colo: a simple 'no' would have sufficed as an answer :) |
| 05:05.50 | C4colo | yea, I'm not saying anything about anyone in particular (well except TK) |
| 05:05.59 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: I might do a head count before we sign off on that ;) |
| 05:06.08 | carrar | TK is gonna be one of your better resources in here |
| 05:06.21 | BBHoss | there are no resources for asterisk |
| 05:06.22 | carrar | However reading before asking is required |
| 05:06.23 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: Nope, not any more... I've reached "/ignore" |
| 05:06.35 | carrar | hahah |
| 05:06.36 | C4colo | we are moving our call routers over to freeswitch, which does regex, so that takes care of that in the long run, we will just pass it from the asterisk feature servers "as-is" and have the call router handle the pattern matching |
| 05:07.07 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Was that in answer to my question, or just a general statement? |
| 05:07.43 | carrar | C4colo, I would never use anything but asterisk from source |
| 05:07.45 | C4colo | carrar: yea I have gotten some good answers out of TK at various times in the past 3 years, but rarely without abuse |
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| 05:08.01 | carrar | Most people who work for CLEC's do a lot of call routing in AGI |
| 05:08.03 | C4colo | yea, we use asterisk from source for all of our systems |
| 05:08.11 | BBHoss | the docs suck, the irc channels usually suck, there isn't any official documentation other than "The book" which is a basic intro to asterisk. Plus, there is all the special corner case shit where you can't do this because x, you can't do this unless you do that. Oh you put a space in the wrong place. All bull |
| 05:08.21 | carrar | least we do |
| 05:08.27 | C4colo | but we are moving to an XML-based distributed call routing application |
| 05:08.36 | C4colo | on freeswitch (not freepbx) |
| 05:08.40 | drmessano | BBHoss: Sorry, your argument has been deprecated |
| 05:08.47 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Docs suck? The books have gotten lots of praise and we are talking about a specific point of documentation not a "got it all perfect in one place" thing... |
| 05:08.48 | C4colo | like using openser or something, it's another softswitch |
| 05:08.48 | carrar | XML works great |
| 05:08.51 | drmessano | BBHoss: I mean, "Is Experimental" |
| 05:08.56 | carrar | incorporate that into your AGI |
| 05:09.21 | carrar | OpenSet is great too, but thats different then asterisk |
| 05:09.23 | carrar | ser |
| 05:09.29 | drmessano | C4colo: Was it you who told me the IAX2 stuff in "The book" is wrong? |
| 05:09.31 | carrar | apple and oranges |
| 05:09.34 | BBHoss | [TK]D-Fender: what books, the only decent one i know of is "THE" book. And while it gets you started, when you hit a wall, you're fucked |
| 05:09.37 | jaytee | probably me |
| 05:09.42 | drmessano | MAybe so |
| 05:09.45 | drmessano | Yes |
| 05:09.46 | jaytee | the contexts are ass backwards |
| 05:09.47 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: As I said, we're on a specific point here. |
| 05:09.49 | C4colo | at one point it was IAX/... instead of IAX2/ |
| 05:09.54 | C4colo | n3glv actually noticed that |
| 05:10.00 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: One that is profusely documented |
| 05:10.01 | C4colo | I may have brought it to your attention at some point |
| 05:10.04 | C4colo | that was about 2 years ago |
| 05:10.20 | drmessano | Lets not forget the Voip Wiki |
| 05:10.22 | drmessano | HEH |
| 05:10.31 | jaytee | is the wiki still down? |
| 05:10.40 | BBHoss | [TK]D-Fender: no i think we've made it to the general "what is wrong with asterisk in general" field |
| 05:10.44 | drmessano | Dunno, I was tending to a tree that fell in the woods |
| 05:10.50 | jaytee | lol |
| 05:10.55 | drmessano | It was at least correct, though unheard |
| 05:11.00 | jaytee | I'm doin my taxes |
| 05:11.17 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: I certainly haven't If you want to stretch it out to that I guess we're going to get ready to try and validate "the whole" |
| 05:11.23 | BBHoss | the wiki blows too, most of the info has stuff mixed in from asterisk 1.0.9 or even 1.2, and most of the time it doesnt say which, shit just doesnt work |
| 05:11.34 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: then again if it was so bad, then why are we all here? |
| 05:11.37 | BBHoss | plus its run by a commercial entity, and it looks like shit |
| 05:11.50 | carrar | BBHoss, can't beat the price though |
| 05:11.54 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: And yes, the WIKI is often inscrutable. |
| 05:11.55 | BBHoss | and is horribly unorganized |
| 05:12.06 | carrar | people this is free software |
| 05:12.12 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: And then again there are a LOT of docs in the tarball. |
| 05:12.14 | BBHoss | carrar: often you can. You can only not beat it if your time is free |
| 05:12.35 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: Most of the important stuff is all there. Vars, expressions, dialplan login, patters, etc. |
| 05:12.38 | carrar | my time is not free, but I like to think I can figure stuff out |
| 05:13.00 | *** join/#asterisk jsgoecke (n=jsgoecke@c-67-180-103-93.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:13.17 | jsgoecke | Hello everyone |
| 05:13.34 | carrar | And what I can't do with asterisk, SER, SIParator and other products fill in |
| 05:13.36 | drmessano | It could be worse |
| 05:13.41 | drmessano | I asked about clustering erlang nodes |
| 05:13.45 | drmessano | *crickets8 |
| 05:13.47 | drmessano | *crickets* |
| 05:14.22 | BBHoss | drmessano: the erlang channel isnt as "active" as #asterisk, but i'm sure you'll get a great response from the mailing list |
| 05:15.44 | drmessano | Seems it would be documented online |
| 05:15.49 | drmessano | But apparently not |
| 05:15.56 | BBHoss | and i just can't stand it when someone trying to start out comes in here and gets ripped open by [TK]D-Fender or someone else with a bigger ego than brain |
| 05:16.22 | *** join/#asterisk thansen (n=thansen@h-68-164-180-2.atlngahp.covad.net) |
| 05:16.41 | carrar | I think he's fair |
| 05:16.44 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: No, they are kept rsync'd :) |
| 05:16.54 | BBHoss | and believe me, i understand all about egos. I have one myself, and it's hard to live with, knowing everything and all. Oh and don't forget I'm always right. But, I try to help people out, because I would want to be helped out. |
| 05:17.00 | BBHoss | And that goes for any channel |
| 05:17.33 | BBHoss | I don't come in here thinking "Oh shit I can't wait to make all of these newbs feel stupid!" |
| 05:17.55 | carrar | enough already |
| 05:17.58 | [TK]D-Fender | BBHoss: And neither do I. Who says there isn't common ground |
| 05:18.00 | carrar | take the drama elsewhere |
| 05:18.03 | Gopher_77 | I take you you like having us newbs around |
| 05:18.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Life wouldn't be "intersting" without them. |
| 05:18.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: But they come in all flavours |
| 05:18.38 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: true |
| 05:18.42 | BBHoss | Gopher_77: yes, I enjoy helping people. I personally feel that other peoples motives are differnt |
| 05:18.45 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: how is mine? :P |
| 05:19.10 | Gopher_77 | BBHoss: I know other people have different motives |
| 05:19.21 | carrar | (To take over the world) |
| 05:19.35 | carrar | with a camo painted laptop and roller blades |
| 05:20.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Jury is out :) |
| 05:20.19 | drmessano | scrapes the bottom of the spinach dip bowl |
| 05:20.30 | drmessano | Im here because you people have better dip than #debian |
| 05:20.33 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Better be pumpernickel. |
| 05:20.52 | drmessano | Never.. actually.. used an asterisk |
| 05:21.04 | drmessano | Do I taste fennel? |
| 05:21.13 | Gopher_77 | drmessano: I use them all the time |
| 05:21.26 | Gopher_77 | drmessano: do they take up too much processor power for you? :P |
| 05:22.02 | drmessano | I wouldnt know.. I tried installing Asterisk on my XP box, but I cant find the EXE |
| 05:22.09 | drmessano | So... just here for the dip |
| 05:24.50 | Gopher_77 | any idea why ztcfg will set up my fxo channels using wcfxs but fails to set up my fxs channels using wcfxo? |
| 05:25.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: wcfxo is the X100P driver and is not an FXS device |
| 05:25.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: And I have no idea where you're going with "wcfxs". That isn't anything I'm familiar with |
| 05:26.07 | dan__t | in 'module show', I should see a 'chan_iax2.so' in there somewhere, right? |
| 05:26.11 | dan__t | ASsuming the module was present etc etc. |
| 05:26.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: May want to get your devices, driver modules, and signaling sorted out. |
| 05:26.34 | dan__t | I see like 10 modules in there. |
| 05:26.47 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: pastebin them and include your modules.conf |
| 05:26.48 | carrar | module show like iax |
| 05:26.51 | dan__t | Coming up. |
| 05:26.52 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: it's not exactly intuitive... |
| 05:27.07 | dan__t | (0 modules btw, carrarrarrarrrrraarrr) |
| 05:27.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: there are each documented, and the sample config dgives samples for ll of them |
| 05:27.21 | carrar | not a good sign if you plan to use iax :) |
| 05:27.30 | [TK]D-Fender | they* |
| 05:27.49 | dan__t | http://pastebin.com/m44575dd2 |
| 05:28.15 | dan__t | It was working. The only thing I did was to load that res_speech_lumenvox.so module, after which I had removed it. |
| 05:28.20 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: 1 and 2 are successfully set up using the fxsks, and I have 2 of each. fxoks fails to set up 3 and 4 |
| 05:28.46 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: just in case, I tried setting up 3 and 4 with fxsks as well, with failure |
| 05:28.54 | dan__t | I noload'ed all those modules at the bottom because * was complaining about them at startup, and I have no use for them. |
| 05:29.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: pastebin dmesg, your configs, the output of "cat /proc/interrupts", "ztcfg -vvvv", etc |
| 05:29.10 | dan__t | I can do the entire thing again with those commented out, and it will behave the same way. |
| 05:29.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: And I presume you're talking about that A400P from earlier. Is that so? |
| 05:29.27 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: yes |
| 05:30.41 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: You shouldn't really ever have to mess with modules.conf. Go look in your modules folder and see if stuff is missing. Been swapping versions by any chance? Old modules = FUBAR |
| 05:30.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Ok, provide the bits I've asked for then. |
| 05:30.58 | dan__t | Yes, swapping, but cleaning before that. |
| 05:31.05 | dan__t | I can guarantee that nothing old is in there. |
| 05:31.22 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: I would suspect a major cleaning failure if you have autoload enabeld and that's all you've got. |
| 05:31.32 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: I'd strong recommend you flush and recompile |
| 05:31.40 | dan__t | *($@!$#%$@#&*@$^*(!@$&*&*$@!# |
| 05:31.43 | dan__t | Done it like 10 times, but ok. |
| 05:31.55 | carrar | removed all your old modules? |
| 05:32.02 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: trash the modules folder, re-exract from scratch. |
| 05:32.12 | dan__t | This time I won't touch res_speech_lumenvox.so, I strongly suspect that it eats something. This is the 3rd machine that this has happened on. |
| 05:32.21 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: there's jsut no way you're missing all of the PBX core and 15 million dialplan appsm etc |
| 05:32.22 | dan__t | All working until until I loaded that module. |
| 05:32.33 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: Your setup is crispy |
| 05:32.43 | dan__t | Crisp, as in linens, yes. |
| 05:32.48 | dan__t | Fresh from yhe dryer. |
| 05:32.50 | dan__t | the, rather. |
| 05:32.54 | dan__t | Standard source installation. |
| 05:32.57 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: yeah.. the DEEP FRYER |
| 05:33.45 | dan__t | so 'make uninstall' and 'make uninstall-all' shouldn't be trusted eh |
| 05:34.57 | carrar | poeple still do that? |
| 05:35.25 | dan__t | haha |
| 05:35.29 | dan__t | find -mtime is my friend |
| 05:35.30 | dan__t | *sigh* |
| 05:36.35 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: http://rafb.net/p/v3RTFA72.html |
| 05:37.14 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: there is no "uninstall". Lot of manual rip&replace to do |
| 05:37.53 | dan__t | I know what a source install entails. |
| 05:37.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: ProSLIC on module 2 failed to powerup within 501 ms (0 mV only) |
| 05:38.00 | dan__t | Quite well. |
| 05:38.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Unit didn't come up, lack of power. Forget the molex connector by any chance? |
| 05:38.32 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: more often than "make uninstall" I find "make deinstall" works more often, probably not in this case though |
| 05:38.51 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: molex connector? I'll look in the box for a wire |
| 05:39.15 | dan__t | I know, I'm pointing out how ironc it is to have a 'make uninstall' or 'deinstall' and it never works as expected. |
| 05:39.39 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: no wire |
| 05:40.05 | dan__t | Mind you, it *was* working prior to loading that module. |
| 05:40.11 | dan__t | I was doing calls and everything - bot SIP and IAX2. |
| 05:41.29 | dan__t | That, again, is why I believe that module eats something. |
| 05:41.33 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: oh, like the one that goes in a hard drive; I see it now |
| 05:41.34 | dan__t | I don't know what it is, but it definitely eats something. |
| 05:42.22 | dan__t | even with debug and verbose set to 10000000, I wouldn't see an error about a fubar'd module? |
| 05:42.37 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, that would be important |
| 05:42.40 | dan__t | I know at that point nothing is guaranteed, but I can't expect to see it actually bomb out? |
| 05:42.48 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: Right now I'm not sure what I WOULD trust in your system, so so much better to wipe the modules out, and recompile. |
| 05:42.58 | carrar | Gopher_77, didn't you wonder about that extra cable in the package? :) |
| 05:42.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Highly |
| 05:43.10 | dan__t | Are you kidding me? *3* different machines. Same exact thing. |
| 05:43.15 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: Or that curiously power-like connector? |
| 05:43.21 | dan__t | The odds of that? Non-existent. |
| 05:43.24 | carrar | heh |
| 05:43.30 | Gopher_77 | carrar: there wasn't one |
| 05:43.32 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: 3? Well... at least you're consistent :p |
| 05:43.39 | dan__t | heh |
| 05:43.47 | carrar | Gopher_77, you buy that card new? |
| 05:43.48 | dan__t | I just did as muhc testing as I could before bothering you guys with it haha. |
| 05:43.52 | Gopher_77 | carrar: maybe that's one reason why tk said earlier about not buying from that vendor |
| 05:43.56 | Gopher_77 | carrar: yes, new |
| 05:43.59 | carrar | odd |
| 05:44.14 | dan__t | All I want to do, is write dialplans. That's *all* I want to do. |
| 05:44.28 | dan__t | I don't want to spend three nights just trying to bring Asterisk up after I load those modules. |
| 05:44.49 | dan__t | So will Asterisk load all the modules in its 'modules' at boot unless explicitly told otherwise? |
| 05:44.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Well.... so far it seems you're telling us you didn't connect a power cable to the rather clearly purposed jack on the card... |
| 05:45.03 | dan__t | doing make install now... |
| 05:45.08 | carrar | dan__t, yeah |
| 05:45.14 | Gopher_77 | carrar: you know, lack of parts, lack of documentation |
| 05:45.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Maybe their documentation is lacking (woudn't doubt it), but its something you should have asked yourself |
| 05:45.27 | dan__t | Ok. |
| 05:45.31 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: yes, didn't notice though |
| 05:45.37 | dan__t | Starting it up now - copying my sip.conf and extensions.conf that I backed up. |
| 05:45.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Oh well. So, on your way to correcting? |
| 05:45.44 | dan__t | Just enough for me to pull in my IAX provider and my SIP phone. |
| 05:45.53 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: booting again now |
| 05:46.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Good, check dmesg first thing, then "ztcfg -vvvv |
| 05:46.29 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: what can I grep for? |
| 05:46.40 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: dmesg, that is |
| 05:46.52 | carrar | ProSLIC |
| 05:47.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: look for the stuff following Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196 |
| 05:47.37 | Gopher_77 | ah, now I'm having this stupid ssh login problem again |
| 05:47.38 | dan__t | http://pastebin.com/m14a169fc - ok, that's what I want to see, right. |
| 05:47.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Its the breakdown of your cards driver attempting to load for the device |
| 05:47.49 | carrar | ssh login problem again? |
| 05:47.51 | dan__t | I just made a call from my sip phone to my cell phone - it works fine. |
| 05:48.01 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: Good, only SLIGHTLY different ;) |
| 05:48.13 | Gopher_77 | carrar: yes, it should log in after I wait a minute |
| 05:48.22 | carrar | fix your ssh to not use dns |
| 05:48.41 | Gopher_77 | carrar: how do I do that? |
| 05:48.52 | carrar | add UseDNS no |
| 05:48.57 | carrar | to sshd_config |
| 05:49.02 | Gopher_77 | carrar: ty |
| 05:49.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Do what? |
| 05:49.08 | carrar | and restart the daemon |
| 05:49.19 | dan__t | heh. |
| 05:49.25 | dan__t | now, I'll load that lumenvox module. |
| 05:50.54 | dan__t | And this is my result: http://pastebin.com/m3c0d3da9 |
| 05:51.19 | carrar | You need to compile that last module |
| 05:51.49 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: showing all 4 modules installed |
| 05:51.54 | dan__t | Ok, new test, I didn't load res_speech.so first. |
| 05:52.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Ok, better odds, keep on going then |
| 05:52.01 | dan__t | wtf? seriously? why? |
| 05:52.10 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: successful :) tyvm |
| 05:52.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: You're welcome |
| 05:52.48 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: gotta love the easy fixes huh? |
| 05:54.12 | dan__t | What makes you believe that, carrarrararararr? |
| 05:54.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Gopher_77: Yup, could have been much much worse :) |
| 05:54.38 | carrar | I was commenting on line 23 |
| 05:54.52 | Gopher_77 | [TK]D-Fender: yup, I could have bought new hardware for nothing :) |
| 05:55.16 | dan__t | haha |
| 05:55.27 | dan__t | So why does * have a fit when that lumenvox module loads? |
| 05:57.56 | carrar | You library enviroments set? |
| 05:58.03 | carrar | for lumenvox |
| 05:58.12 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: Where did that module come from precisely? |
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| 05:58.47 | dan__t | From lumenvox. |
| 05:59.04 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: I'd go verify the versions are compatible, etc |
| 05:59.13 | dan__t | They are, I'm going by the book. |
| 05:59.14 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: its immediately suspect |
| 05:59.17 | dan__t | What a POS. |
| 05:59.34 | dan__t | er, didn't need any ENV vars for just loading the module, carrar. |
| 05:59.39 | dan__t | According to their docs, anyway. |
| 05:59.58 | dan__t | It says nothing of ld, nothing of presetting in a config, nothin'. |
| 06:00.06 | carrar | I was just googling and saw people setting cars |
| 06:00.07 | carrar | vars |
| 06:00.14 | dan__t | link me, please? |
| 06:00.16 | dan__t | News to me. |
| 06:00.19 | carrar | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23asterisk-doc/20070301.html.gz |
| 06:00.25 | dan__t | Awesome. |
| 06:00.28 | carrar | grep for your module |
| 06:00.40 | carrar | no fix listed however |
| 06:01.23 | carrar | also http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-speech-rec/2007-August/000271.html |
| 06:02.30 | carrar | running FC? |
| 06:03.05 | dan__t | env vars are only necessary when using version < 8.5, I'm on 8.5 |
| 06:03.28 | carrar | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-speech-rec/2007-August/000277.html |
| 06:04.09 | dan__t | I'm on CentOS5 |
| 06:04.50 | carrar | and you don't have to install any path to your libs? |
| 06:05.03 | dan__t | no. |
| 06:05.06 | dan__t | Found something... hold on. |
| 06:06.37 | dan__t | Pbththhththththt. |
| 06:06.40 | dan__t | brb smoke. |
| 06:07.03 | carrar | smoking is bad mmmkay |
| 06:09.04 | ricko73 | going out for 'fresh air' |
| 06:09.05 | ricko73 | lol |
| 06:11.10 | drmessano | Smoking is for ummm |
| 06:11.27 | drmessano | <-- Doesnt smoke.. Smoking bigot |
| 06:12.03 | Gopher_77 | drmessano: what's your name for a smoker? |
| 06:12.08 | carrar | Smoking is the gateway to heroin! |
| 06:12.15 | drmessano | Dad? |
| 06:12.21 | carrar | yes son |
| 06:12.22 | Gopher_77 | carrar: lol |
| 06:12.38 | drmessano | Smoking is the gateway to smelling bad and dying young |
| 06:12.42 | drmessano | So go for it |
| 06:13.57 | carrar | dan__t, isn't gonna need to worry about lumenvox not working if he keeps that up! |
| 06:27.15 | *** part/#asterisk CrazyTux (n=brandon@ip68-111-67-4.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 06:30.17 | drmessano | Indeed |
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| 06:33.16 | dan__t | haha |
| 06:33.29 | dan__t | I've got a few more years to go. |
| 06:34.04 | drmessano | Nice |
| 06:34.06 | drmessano | Other blogs (TechCrunch and Center Networks) are calling Grand Central and Knol as the next projects to join Google's scrap bin. |
| 06:34.18 | drmessano | Guess Grand Central's fate is sealed |
| 06:35.25 | dan__t | That sucks. |
| 06:35.47 | [TK]D-Fender | To everyone who thought their free ride would last, :p |
| 06:35.55 | drmessano | Not like google lifted a finger to do anything with it |
| 06:39.23 | loather | what is grand central? |
| 06:39.41 | drmessano | A train terminal in new york |
| 06:39.49 | drmessano | But thats not relevant here |
| 06:39.59 | loather | well yes, i'm aware of *that* grand central :) |
| 06:40.08 | drmessano | Now Google Grand Central was a service providing free numbers |
| 06:40.21 | drmessano | To those lucky 11 people that got invites |
| 06:41.20 | dan__t | hah |
| 06:41.43 | dan__t | Yep. Still, no dice. |
| 06:45.39 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, checkout time. Later all |
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| 07:01.18 | jaybinks | hey how can I use "sendrpid:yes" and set the privacy flag to true ? |
| 07:01.33 | jaybinks | ideally id like to set that in sip.conf ( using asterisk 1.4.x ) |
| 07:02.02 | jaybinks | it dosnt seem that using callingpres:prohib works |
| 07:08.21 | carrar | sendrpid = yes |
| 07:08.21 | carrar | trustrpid = no |
| 07:09.13 | carrar | add to your dialplan |
| 07:09.18 | carrar | SipAddHeader(Privacy: none) |
| 07:09.56 | jaybinks | mmm ok |
| 07:10.00 | jaybinks | so I cant do it in sip.conf ? |
| 07:10.01 | jaybinks | :( |
| 07:10.05 | carrar | do what |
| 07:10.26 | jaybinks | Privacy: none .. |
| 07:10.50 | carrar | should |
| 07:11.06 | carrar | different format |
| 07:11.37 | jaybinks | what do you mean different format.. |
| 07:11.46 | jaybinks | I realise I Cant use SipAddHeader in sip.conf |
| 07:11.53 | jaybinks | but I was wondering if there were something similar |
| 07:11.58 | jaybinks | that set all privacy: none |
| 07:11.59 | carrar | did you ready the example sip.conf? |
| 07:12.01 | carrar | read |
| 07:12.29 | jaybinks | where at ? |
| 07:12.46 | carrar | this is a channel about asterisk |
| 07:12.53 | carrar | what are you talking about |
| 07:12.54 | *** join/#asterisk Avelino (n=Avelino@201-95-162-167.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 07:17.19 | dan__t | I'm going to stab LumenVox. |
| 07:17.25 | dan__t | In the face. |
| 07:18.21 | dan__t | http://tinyurl.com/9guc49 |
| 07:21.20 | *** join/#asterisk reneger (n=reneger@dslb-088-078-125-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:22.05 | drmessano | son of a b |
| 07:22.09 | drmessano | Thanx |
| 07:22.16 | loather | that clown instills fear in everyone |
| 07:22.19 | drmessano | I am actually afraid of clowns |
| 07:22.26 | loather | CANT SLEEP |
| 07:22.29 | loather | CLOWNS WILL EAT ME |
| 07:22.48 | loather | i don't fear clowns, but i don't like them either |
| 07:22.50 | drmessano | I'm not sure when it started. May have been that time we went to the circus when I was a kid, and a clown killed my dad. |
| 07:22.52 | drmessano | Dunno |
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| 07:24.31 | *** join/#asterisk matt914 (i=matt@76-10-144-154.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 07:25.38 | matt914 | has anyone tried the digium IAX connection test in asterisk today?? |
| 07:26.19 | matt914 | i get some bizarre noises that sound like monkeys when i call, I've been messing with SIP on my new E71 .. and the IAX test was normal yesterday |
| 07:27.47 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (n=annon@tony09-121-90.inter.net.il) |
| 07:28.29 | loather | it probably is monkeys |
| 07:28.38 | loather | there's a default asterisk sound that's monkeys |
| 07:29.00 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 07:29.10 | drmessano | HAHAHHA |
| 07:29.21 | matt914 | usually i get the normal thank you for calling digium, the asterisk company etc etc |
| 07:29.22 | drmessano | " get some bizarre noises that sound like monkeys when i call" |
| 07:29.27 | matt914 | but i get monkeys :) |
| 07:29.29 | drmessano | That is CLASSIC |
| 07:29.36 | drmessano | Yes, it's the MONKEYS |
| 07:30.31 | matt914 | are they supposed to be there? ;) |
| 07:30.38 | matt914 | or did digium get hacked |
| 07:31.29 | carrar | You should probably Email them to let them know they've been hacked |
| 07:33.32 | drmessano | Yeah, sounds like someone got em |
| 07:33.39 | drmessano | Awesome tho |
| 07:34.11 | drmessano | Id let them know |
| 07:34.16 | matt914 | i'm sending an email now |
| 07:34.31 | *** join/#asterisk pcrack (n=pcrack@116.50.213.213) |
| 07:34.50 | pcrack | hi, is there any web-based sip phone? |
| 07:35.16 | loather | 858-634-5560 :) |
| 07:36.03 | Gopher_77 | I get this error when I restart the * service: Unable to open specified master config file '/etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf/asterisk.conf' |
| 07:36.26 | Gopher_77 | I can't find a real reference to asterisk.conf in the config files; anyone know where it would be? |
| 07:37.01 | loather | aww, nobody's going to call? :) |
| 07:37.27 | pcrack | when you installed asterisk did you make samples |
| 07:37.34 | *** join/#asterisk brian (n=brian@unaffiliated/brian) |
| 07:37.39 | Carlos_PHX | Just a wild guess, but the asterisk.conf file probably goes in /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf/ |
| 07:38.10 | Gopher_77 | Carlos_PHX: nah, I tried that and it couldn't find /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf and failed |
| 07:38.56 | Carlos_PHX | Right, you need to create it. Either make samples, or write it, or google for one. |
| 07:39.09 | Gopher_77 | Carlos_PHX: I have one |
| 07:39.20 | Carlos_PHX | So it is there, in that dir? |
| 07:39.25 | Carlos_PHX | And can't be read? |
| 07:39.28 | Carlos_PHX | Permissions. |
| 07:39.39 | Gopher_77 | Carlos_PHX: it's the default one that came with the package, it's in /etc/asterisk/ |
| 07:40.12 | Gopher_77 | Carlos_PHX: can't find it, although when I move it, I get a different error, so I think it finds it somehow, then can't find it later because it's looking in a different place for some reason? |
| 07:40.45 | loather | Gopher_77: pastebin your asterisk.conf |
| 07:41.54 | carrar | asterisk.conf should be located at /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf |
| 07:41.59 | Gopher_77 | loather: http://nopaste.com/p/a4SsGvQ8Z |
| 07:42.06 | Gopher_77 | carrar: it's there |
| 07:42.08 | carrar | if it's looking someplace else you gots it messed up |
| 07:42.22 | Gopher_77 | carrar: I just don't know where that change would go |
| 07:42.25 | *** part/#asterisk Ericounet (n=Ericoune@ACaen-151-1-9-29.w86-215.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:42.31 | matt914 | i love that my new nokia has a built in SIP client :) |
| 07:42.34 | Gopher_77 | carrar: so I don't know where to fix it |
| 07:42.56 | *** join/#asterisk xrmx__ (n=rm@host220-252-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:42.56 | loather | Gopher_77: you're missing a [directories] tag at the beginning of the file |
| 07:43.05 | carrar | probably at compile time? |
| 07:43.07 | dan__t | hrmmm... |
| 07:43.29 | dan__t | So AGI can be used to both send info to and retrieve info from Asterisk, right? |
| 07:43.37 | pcrack | the best thing is to cd to the asterisk source..and issue the make samples command |
| 07:43.46 | carrar | dan__t, right |
| 07:43.48 | matt914 | dan: yes |
| 07:43.58 | dan__t | If I wanted to make some app that interacted with a dialplan, and perform actions based on what the caller wanted to do or something, I'd send that to AGI |
| 07:44.10 | carrar | sure |
| 07:44.14 | dan__t | What about an interactive menu where the caller needed info retrieved by some AGI action? |
| 07:44.15 | matt914 | agi can interpret dtmf |
| 07:44.24 | dan__t | I mean for all intents and purposes it is "bi-directional" in that manner right? |
| 07:44.25 | carrar | can do that inside of AGI as well |
| 07:45.08 | Gopher_77 | loather: oops I guess I cropped it out by accident... it's there up top... it had a (!) there, but I removed to activate iit like the comment said, but I get the same thing |
| 07:45.16 | dan__t | Ok. |
| 07:45.31 | dan__t | So AGI doesn't feed or pass arguments, right - it uses environment variables? |
| 07:45.36 | matt914 | you can just pass a call off to an AGI |
| 07:45.44 | dan__t | oh really |
| 07:45.51 | dan__t | and make AGI write the diaplan out dynamically? |
| 07:45.56 | matt914 | yup |
| 07:46.02 | Gopher_77 | loather: repasted |
| 07:46.04 | dan__t | That's kinda bad-ass. |
| 07:46.05 | carrar | You can pass arguments |
| 07:46.13 | dan__t | Can I pass env vars instead? |
| 07:46.16 | Gopher_77 | I can pass gas |
| 07:46.20 | carrar | yes |
| 07:46.24 | dan__t | Very nice. |
| 07:46.41 | dan__t | So when handling logic of a call, maybe actions in Asterisk based on data from another data source like SQL |
| 07:46.53 | dan__t | Would it be better to handle that logic insie Asterisk, or inside of your AGI app? |
| 07:46.57 | matt914 | AGI |
| 07:47.23 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (n=tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) |
| 07:47.23 | carrar | I use AGI when needing to interact with a db |
| 07:47.30 | dan__t | I guess at that point it SHOULD be so atomic that you can just use comparisons in * |
| 07:47.35 | loather | Gopher_77: ok, well it looks fine otherwise. selinux breaking your balls, maybe? |
| 07:47.51 | dan__t | Still trying to wrap my brain around it, sorry - don't mean to sound like a tool. |
| 07:48.06 | carrar | Gopher_77, try this: strings /usr/sbin/asterisk | grep asterisk | grep etc |
| 07:48.16 | Gopher_77 | loatherpossible |
| 07:48.34 | matt914 | agi answers the call, can play a sound like "login", take a user ID via DTMF, look that up in a DB, ask for a password |
| 07:48.35 | matt914 | etc etc |
| 07:48.42 | Gopher_77 | carrar: I tried "grep asterisk[.]conf" and only came up with comments |
| 07:48.45 | dan__t | how can AGI play the sound? |
| 07:48.50 | dan__t | Or does it just tell * to play the sound? |
| 07:48.51 | carrar | thats not what I pasted |
| 07:49.32 | matt914 | i believe it can tell * to play the sound |
| 07:49.43 | carrar | dan__t, read up on AGI |
| 07:49.49 | Gopher_77 | loather: nope, setenforce 0, stop, start, same error |
| 07:49.50 | matt914 | been a while since i've done AGI :) |
| 07:49.54 | carrar | All your questions will be answerde |
| 07:49.59 | dan__t | I have been. |
| 07:50.01 | dan__t | And that one has not. |
| 07:50.03 | carrar | Gopher_77, try this: strings /usr/sbin/asterisk | grep asterisk | grep etc |
| 07:50.08 | dan__t | That was an outstanding question I have that I couldn't figure out. |
| 07:50.12 | dan__t | That very one specifically. |
| 07:50.21 | dan__t | Does AGI send "sound" to the caller or does it trigger Asterisk to do so? |
| 07:50.57 | carrar | You can send sound |
| 07:51.01 | matt914 | i believe it can do either :) it can source/sink audio directly |
| 07:51.02 | Gopher_77 | carrar: changed etc to /etc and it shows /etc/asterisk and /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf |
| 07:51.15 | Gopher_77 | carrar: and a compatibility note |
| 07:51.32 | carrar | so it's compiled right |
| 07:51.49 | dan__t | How the f does that work? |
| 07:51.52 | carrar | asterisk.conf belongs in /etc/asterisk/ |
| 07:51.53 | dan__t | How does PHP send audio? |
| 07:51.53 | Gopher_77 | carrar: binary install |
| 07:52.05 | carrar | dan, read the AGI docs |
| 07:52.08 | matt914 | you wouldn't in PHP |
| 07:52.09 | carrar | it's all there |
| 07:52.20 | carrar | AGI commands are AGI commands |
| 07:52.25 | dan__t | Yes. |
| 07:52.35 | dan__t | I'm just saying, in my AGI interpreter or whatever I write, how does tha twork |
| 07:52.39 | dan__t | That's what I'm getting at heh |
| 07:53.19 | carrar | http://tinyurl.com/8hxqrq |
| 07:53.41 | Gopher_77 | I don't get a dial tone either; I'm assuming it's either this asterisk.conf issue is the problem or my zapata.conf |
| 07:53.51 | dan__t | hahaha |
| 07:53.53 | Gopher_77 | but wanted to get the asterisk.conf out of the picture |
| 07:54.11 | carrar | You need to fix asterisk.conf 1st |
| 07:55.34 | *** join/#asterisk dandre (n=daniel@was59-3-82-236-48-30.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:55.42 | carrar | dan; http://www.bitflipper.ca/Documentation/agi.html |
| 07:56.15 | *** join/#asterisk brian (n=brian@unaffiliated/brian) |
| 07:56.43 | dan__t | hm |
| 07:57.05 | carrar | lookat stream file |
| 07:59.50 | dan__t | Ok. So you tell * to do it. |
| 08:00.09 | dan__t | Why couldn't I just send Background() to Asterisk from AGI :/ |
| 08:00.55 | carrar | You should try that |
| 08:01.10 | dan__t | Well. I kind of can't. |
| 08:01.15 | carrar | why not |
| 08:01.18 | dan__t | Because LumenVox appears to be trash. |
| 08:01.36 | carrar | yeah guess you will have to find some other hobbie |
| 08:01.40 | dan__t | haha. |
| 08:01.52 | dan__t | I've been hacking on this for 3 days, and I think I finally figured out what was up. |
| 08:01.59 | dan__t | Disappointed that I couldn't find this in the logs, though. |
| 08:02.02 | dan__t | I'm just burnt out on it. |
| 08:02.32 | dan__t | Are there any other similar products to LumenVox that you might know of? |
| 08:02.43 | carrar | not that I know of |
| 08:02.59 | carrar | talking to menus always makes me mad so I hate that stuff |
| 08:03.04 | dan__t | Understood. |
| 08:03.06 | dan__t | So do I. |
| 08:03.11 | dan__t | But the target market eats it alive. |
| 08:03.16 | Gopher_77 | any other ideas where this asterisk.conf/asterisk.conf is coming from? |
| 08:03.20 | carrar | no I know likes it |
| 08:03.23 | carrar | no one |
| 08:03.29 | Gopher_77 | carrar: haha so with this software you get to make one to get even :) |
| 08:03.29 | carrar | your target is sales |
| 08:03.31 | dan__t | *shrug* don't know what to tell you. |
| 08:03.35 | dan__t | It is. |
| 08:03.44 | carrar | not clients |
| 08:03.49 | dan__t | Gopher_77, did you run that strings command? |
| 08:03.58 | dan__t | strings `which asterisk` | grep etc |
| 08:04.03 | carrar | he did |
| 08:04.05 | dan__t | strings `which asterisk` | grep etc | grep conf |
| 08:04.26 | carrar | start asterisk by hand |
| 08:04.27 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: yes, and it came up with /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf and its directory |
| 08:04.45 | dan__t | which disro/means of installation? |
| 08:04.50 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: although this gave me something different |
| 08:04.55 | Gopher_77 | jb_setconf |
| 08:05.12 | dan__t | which disro/means of installation? |
| 08:05.35 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: fedora/yum |
| 08:05.37 | dan__t | which version of package are you using? |
| 08:05.41 | dan__t | -2 or -3? |
| 08:06.15 | carrar | gopher, try installing asterisk from source |
| 08:06.24 | dan__t | -2 has a known bug, bounce to -3. Look at /etc/init.d/asterisk, specifically at AST_CONFIG |
| 08:06.58 | dan__t | which version of fedora? |
| 08:08.05 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: F10, * 1.6.0.1 |
| 08:08.14 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: release 2 |
| 08:09.23 | dan__t | iirc there is a -3 |
| 08:09.41 | dan__t | hrm that may be fedora 9's -2 though... I don't remember. |
| 08:09.56 | dan__t | There's a problem where asterisk.conf ends up getting called as /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf/asterisk.conf |
| 08:10.27 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: that sounds like my problem |
| 08:10.28 | dan__t | grep AST_CONFIG /etc/sysconfig/asterisk && grep AST_CONFIG /etc/init.dasterisk |
| 08:10.33 | dan__t | You'll see what I mean. |
| 08:10.38 | dan__t | Er.... yea fix that last command but wahtever. |
| 08:11.39 | *** join/#asterisk [gquit]bombadil (n=dana@CPE-70-94-44-157.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 08:11.56 | carrar | This is what you get when you let other people compile your code |
| 08:12.08 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: ah, so it's something with init.d or sysconfig |
| 08:12.14 | dan__t | Correct. |
| 08:12.20 | *** join/#asterisk unasi7 (n=unasi7@84-75-23-200.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 08:12.58 | loather | carrar: eh, it's just some bonehead who screwed up a shell script |
| 08:13.04 | dan__t | Fact |
| 08:13.20 | carrar | I tend to do my own init scripts |
| 08:13.30 | dan__t | I don't. I'll hack soemthing up if it needs hacking. |
| 08:13.44 | dan__t | the initscripts package, though, has a pretty good example. |
| 08:13.44 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: I'm the same way |
| 08:13.53 | dan__t | If I'm working with a braindead daemon then I'll hack one out. |
| 08:14.40 | loather | asterisk is really good about doing the right thing |
| 08:14.49 | loather | a simple 'asterisk' is usally all that's needed |
| 08:15.12 | dan__t | i'll give ya that. |
| 08:15.18 | loather | and still nobody's called the monkey line :( |
| 08:16.30 | Gopher_77 | dan__t: nah, wasn't the value of AST_CONFIG |
| 08:16.37 | matt914 | monkey line? |
| 08:16.44 | dan__t | oh? |
| 08:16.49 | Gopher_77 | loather: maybe I should call the monkey line? |
| 08:16.50 | matt914 | just dial 500 on a default asterisk install lol |
| 08:17.00 | loather | 858-634-5560 |
| 08:17.17 | Gopher_77 | what's it do? |
| 08:17.18 | loather | oh, is that a default thing? gah, and i thought i was being clever. |
| 08:17.26 | loather | call it and find out. :) |
| 08:17.29 | carrar | Gopher, make sure you don't have any env set related to asterisk then make sure asterisk is not running and start it by hand with: /usr/sbin/asterisk -vvvgc |
| 08:17.37 | matt914 | it's not supposed to be a default thing ;) |
| 08:17.56 | matt914 | i think they were compromised |
| 08:18.05 | matt914 | 'de-voiced' |
| 08:18.28 | Gopher_77 | lol |
| 08:18.44 | loather | cell phone OH |
| 08:18.56 | Gopher_77 | me |
| 08:19.27 | dan__t | ok well |
| 08:19.33 | *** join/#asterisk brian (n=brian@unaffiliated/brian) |
| 08:19.38 | dan__t | time for another smoke, and to re-read the AGI part of the * book |
| 08:19.38 | matt914 | yep same monkeys ;) |
| 08:19.45 | Gopher_77 | I should have hid my number :P |
| 08:19.59 | loather | someone from the UK this time |
| 08:20.11 | matt914 | i'm not in the uk |
| 08:20.22 | Gopher_77 | sip provider? |
| 08:20.23 | loather | country code 44? |
| 08:20.38 | matt914 | voipuser |
| 08:20.55 | matt914 | free outbound sip |
| 08:21.09 | matt914 | from the uk :) |
| 08:21.15 | *** join/#asterisk creativx (n=creadure@226.62-97-205.bkkb.no) |
| 08:21.42 | matt914 | over 3G on my nokia |
| 08:21.56 | loather | interesting. |
| 08:22.02 | loather | what model nokia is this? |
| 08:22.06 | matt914 | e71 |
| 08:22.15 | matt914 | built in SIP |
| 08:22.20 | Gopher_77 | matt914: so if I sign up on this site, I can get free sip? |
| 08:23.15 | matt914 | you can get free UK DIDs, and outbound calls .. i think they're limited to 10 mins |
| 08:23.15 | matt914 | voipuser.org |
| 08:23.22 | matt914 | i think they terminate iax2 as well |
| 08:23.34 | loather | niiiice. |
| 08:24.01 | Gopher_77 | matt914: that's fine for my purposes |
| 08:24.34 | matt914 | i use it for testing mostly |
| 08:24.38 | matt914 | i've had it for years :) |
| 08:24.43 | loather | and calling the monkeys. :) |
| 08:24.55 | matt914 | lol yup |
| 08:27.07 | matt914 | used to be able to spoof CID with voipuser lol that was fun :) |
| 08:27.14 | matt914 | calling people from their own number |
| 08:27.27 | loather | i can do that now |
| 08:27.43 | matt914 | depends on the provider |
| 08:27.53 | loather | my provider just won't get their shit together and fix my outbound CNAM |
| 08:27.54 | matt914 | most don't allow it |
| 08:28.02 | loather | mine explicitly allows it |
| 08:28.09 | loather | i can set any number presentation i want |
| 08:28.10 | matt914 | which one? |
| 08:28.15 | loather | cox communications |
| 08:28.22 | matt914 | cheap? |
| 08:28.32 | loather | they're decent for PRI. Cheap as hell. |
| 08:28.42 | loather | their data services leave much to be desired, however |
| 08:28.47 | matt914 | hmm i'll have to check them out |
| 08:28.58 | matt914 | lol |
| 08:29.24 | *** join/#asterisk gr0mit (n=tim@extrt.txrx.org.uk) |
| 08:29.58 | loather | i think i'm paying $300 for the loop and termination |
| 08:30.11 | loather | and i can't remember what i'm paying for 15,000 minutes |
| 08:30.34 | loather | but it works out to under 0.015/minute |
| 08:30.40 | loather | long distance billed the same as local |
| 08:31.05 | loather | international at damned good rates too |
| 08:32.18 | orkid | what do you do? |
| 08:32.25 | orkid | you sell minutes? |
| 08:32.32 | orkid | just curious what people do here |
| 08:32.52 | carrar | I do nothing and it's everything I imagened it could be |
| 08:32.55 | loather | no, i sell clothing online. |
| 08:33.00 | dan__t | ok, carrar, sorry - I guess I don't get it - is AGI used for passing actual COMMANDS to *, or actual data, as in text, raw audio files etc etc |
| 08:33.47 | carrar | dan, I use it to interact with all of my databases from call info and call routing, and other crap |
| 08:34.10 | carrar | All my least call routing is done with databases and cluster matrixs |
| 08:34.16 | dan__t | would you ever "stream" or "play" audio directly THROUGH it, or would you tell asterisk to PLAY that from its local machine? |
| 08:34.32 | carrar | play a audio file |
| 08:34.35 | carrar | thats about it |
| 08:34.46 | dan__t | not play it from AGI though - tell * to play it, right? |
| 08:34.48 | carrar | I do that for incoming it the DID is not in our list of DID thats we own |
| 08:34.53 | carrar | it=if |
| 08:35.04 | matt914 | i make robots :) |
| 08:35.06 | dan__t | You'd essentially tell it Background(custom/somefile); right? |
| 08:35.34 | carrar | no |
| 08:35.38 | carrar | like I said |
| 08:35.42 | carrar | I use te stream file |
| 08:35.48 | dan__t | not necessarily like cat somefile.wav > agi |
| 08:36.00 | Gopher_77 | found the bug |
| 08:36.27 | carrar | $AGI->answer(); |
| 08:36.27 | carrar | $AGI->stream_file('number-not-in-service'); |
| 08:36.31 | carrar | like that |
| 08:36.34 | carrar | (I use perl) |
| 08:36.55 | dan__t | ok, is number-not-in-service known to asterisk? |
| 08:37.07 | carrar | thats audio file I created |
| 08:37.12 | Gopher_77 | it was in /etc/init.d/asterisk |
| 08:37.49 | dan__t | so agi is piping raw data right in to asterisk via agi |
| 08:37.57 | *** join/#asterisk chi6IT41 (n=chigital@91.90.144.102) |
| 08:38.11 | carrar | agi is telling asterisk to pipe audio into the media stream |
| 08:38.59 | carrar | Just need to start playing with it |
| 08:39.08 | carrar | Look at the example thats included |
| 08:39.18 | carrar | work from there |
| 08:41.12 | carrar | There are a lot of AGI examples out there also |
| 08:41.30 | Gopher_77 | now for my dial tone... |
| 08:42.00 | dan__t | OK, the docs have a note of "Asterisk looks for the file to play in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds " |
| 08:42.17 | carrar | in the root of |
| 08:42.20 | dan__t | So, AGI is not streaming the file. AGI is telling Asterisk to play a file from asterisk's own /var/lib/asterisk/sounds |
| 08:42.37 | carrar | or a subdirectory there of |
| 08:42.39 | dan__t | Yes. |
| 08:42.44 | dan__t | Ok that's what I was getting at. |
| 08:43.12 | carrar | You can change that location also |
| 08:43.21 | dan__t | So, what, you'd start it out with like exten => s,1,AGI() and that's the end of your extension? |
| 08:44.15 | carrar | s,1,agi,myagiprogram.pl |
| 08:44.24 | carrar | or |
| 08:44.27 | dan__t | Got it. And that's *it* for that context, right? |
| 08:44.30 | carrar | s,1,agi(myagiprogram.pl) |
| 08:44.32 | dan__t | You just handle everything through AGI at that point |
| 08:44.50 | carrar | You can pass variables too or use the channel env var |
| 08:45.00 | carrar | as well as pass vars back |
| 08:45.02 | dan__t | sure. |
| 08:45.04 | dan__t | ok, cool. |
| 08:45.09 | dan__t | ala $ENV[] |
| 08:51.27 | carrar | & |
| 08:51.42 | loather | sleep is for the weak |
| 08:52.38 | dan__t | Thanks for your help :) |
| 08:59.34 | Gopher_77 | is there something I have to do to get * to use zaptel? |
