| 00:00.09 | ScribbleJ | If we all go in together, than what shudl she say, "#asterisk on freenode, you make me so hot!" |
| 00:00.10 | ScribbleJ | Heh |
| 00:00.13 | watchy2 | haha |
| 00:00.25 | ScribbleJ | There's actually a fair number of cute sexy promtps in the default set. |
| 00:00.30 | dwery | June Wallack does french too |
| 00:00.39 | dwery | wonder how dirty french sounds like... |
| 00:00.39 | ScribbleJ | Stuff like "are you flirting with me?" and ... I can't remember. |
| 00:00.55 | crunchcrunch | Qwell: that worked great. Thanks for the help and the info on PAE |
| 00:00.55 | watchy2 | she locked my browser up |
| 00:01.10 | dwery | see? she's hot |
| 00:01.25 | watchy2 | her stupid voice locked it up |
| 00:01.26 | ScribbleJ | HAHAHA |
| 00:01.36 | ScribbleJ | There's a cepstral Allison voice.... holy hell, that's awesome. |
| 00:01.37 | ScribbleJ | Haha |
| 00:01.47 | dwery | serioulsy speaking, June seems to have a clearer voice |
| 00:01.51 | watchy2 | cepstral? |
| 00:01.57 | watchy2 | is june hot |
| 00:02.07 | dwery | ScribbleJ: which default set? asterisk-sounds? |
| 00:02.29 | ScribbleJ | dwery, probably, there's so f-in many of them though it'll take you all day to find the funny ones. |
| 00:02.31 | watchy2 | man my internet is so slow today |
| 00:03.11 | ScribbleJ | watchy2, it's basically a jazzed-up version of Festival with better voices for text-to-speech syntheis. |
| 00:03.31 | watchy2 | ah |
| 00:03.39 | watchy2 | this june sounds good |
| 00:03.43 | dwery | cepstral.. and it works? |
| 00:03.51 | dwery | scheck the wallmart announce |
| 00:03.55 | watchy2 | im about to |
| 00:04.02 | ScribbleJ | dwery, it costs $$, if you don't mind the stephen hawking voice, festival works fine too. |
| 00:04.13 | watchy2 | hmm |
| 00:04.19 | watchy2 | cepstral sounds good? |
| 00:04.25 | dwery | I believe June costs less... |
| 00:04.28 | ScribbleJ | TIAS... Demo of Alison voice here: |
| 00:04.33 | ScribbleJ | http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/cepstral.php |
| 00:04.44 | watchy2 | cool |
| 00:04.54 | watchy2 | anyone use att natural voices for voice prompts? |
| 00:05.20 | ScribbleJ | I use FEstival for speech and I'm wokring on a drop-in LumenVox replacement based on Sphinx for voice recognition. |
| 00:05.31 | dwery | I wonder if there are other servics like that one.. |
| 00:05.37 | ScribbleJ | It works great, just singned the release on ASterisk's site and will submit it as a patch in a few days. |
| 00:05.39 | watchy2 | hahahahahaha |
| 00:05.44 | watchy2 | you can type dirty shit in there |
| 00:05.47 | watchy2 | and she'll say it |
| 00:05.57 | dwery | it crashed my browser! |
| 00:06.11 | watchy2 | haha |
| 00:06.26 | dwery | "it" because it's a text-to-speech system |
| 00:06.47 | ScribbleJ | Wow... cepstral /does/ sound a fair bit better than anything I've heard out of Festival. |
| 00:06.57 | ScribbleJ | IT's actually useable in my opinion. |
| 00:06.59 | ScribbleJ | Heheh |
| 00:07.04 | watchy2 | how much is Cepstral? |
| 00:07.08 | ScribbleJ | Festival I don't think would swing it in production. |
| 00:07.12 | dwery | ScribbleJ: my garmin navigator doas quite a better job :) |
| 00:07.25 | dwery | I need to convince him/her to read my voice prompts |
| 00:07.40 | watchy2 | you can use Cepstral to make menus easily? |
| 00:07.47 | ScribbleJ | Oh sure. |
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| 00:07.51 | ScribbleJ | I use FEstival for just that - |
| 00:08.03 | watchy2 | you got a demo of it |
| 00:08.19 | ScribbleJ | I do a lot of testing and I found it was easier to just use FEstival for text-to-speech than to become familiar with all the recorded voice prompts. |
| 00:08.35 | ScribbleJ | But like I said FEstival isn't so nice sounding; it's like talking to Stephen Hawking. |
| 00:08.41 | watchy2 | haha |
| 00:08.50 | watchy2 | well i setup custom voicemenus for companys here |
| 00:08.54 | watchy2 | i have a chick who i get to record it |
| 00:09.09 | dwery | is she hot? |
| 00:09.11 | watchy2 | she does it for free to |
| 00:09.13 | watchy2 | yes she is |
| 00:09.15 | watchy2 | shes my secretary |
| 00:09.22 | dwery | and it's free? :) |
| 00:09.37 | watchy2 | well not exactly i dont guess |
| 00:09.41 | dwery | ehehe |
| 00:10.35 | watchy2 | wow |
| 00:10.38 | watchy2 | $79 for cepstra? |
| 00:10.41 | watchy2 | or whatever it is |
| 00:10.44 | watchy2 | that seems like a deal |
| 00:10.54 | ScribbleJ | That's probably a single concurrent use license. |
| 00:10.59 | dwery | but she isn't hot. |
| 00:11.00 | ScribbleJ | So no using it on two lines at the same time. |
| 00:11.00 | dwery | :) |
| 00:11.07 | watchy2 | yea, but it seems like a deal |
| 00:11.14 | ScribbleJ | Speak for yourself, my server is pretty hot. |
| 00:11.28 | watchy2 | i wonder if i bought it for a customer if i could use it on a development box |
| 00:11.34 | dwery | I know how to keep mine cooled down :) |
| 00:11.43 | dwery | lot of hard work. |
| 00:11.52 | watchy2 | i'm sure it requires some ghetto key stuff though |
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| 00:16.49 | ruben23 | hi after i compile asterisk,libpri and zaptel ==> is zapata.conf exist by default on asterisk directory.. |
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| 00:19.01 | watchy2 | so cepstral is just for ivrs? |
| 00:19.52 | ScribbleJ | Cepstral itself is for anyhting you need text-to-speech for. |
| 00:20.02 | ScribbleJ | Cepstral is just festival with better sounds. |
| 00:20.51 | jaytee | i use the Spanish voice of Cepstral to convert spanish text to spanish voice prompts |
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| 00:21.42 | watchy2 | what would you use to process voices from others? like if someone said Tech Support |
| 00:21.47 | watchy2 | what program would you use for that |
| 00:21.54 | ScribbleJ | Watchy, LumenVox .... OR |
| 00:22.03 | watchy2 | ah ok |
| 00:22.06 | ScribbleJ | Like I said earlier, I'm wokring on a free replacement for it. |
| 00:22.16 | ScribbleJ | It works quite well but it's somewhat ghetto. :) |
| 00:22.28 | watchy2 | haha |
| 00:22.32 | ScribbleJ | I'll be submitting it to ASterisk soon for inclusion... I hope. |
| 00:22.38 | dwery | ScribbleJ: replacement for? |
| 00:22.52 | ScribbleJ | Replacement for LumenVox that you can just drop-in, works just the same. |
| 00:23.21 | dwery | you wrote it from scratch? |
| 00:23.37 | ScribbleJ | Nah, never that. Built based on CMU's Sphinx engine. |
| 00:23.43 | ScribbleJ | Which is capital-F Free. |
| 00:24.03 | dwery | nice work anyhow.. congrats |
| 00:24.32 | ScribbleJ | If you search for 'sphinx asterisk' you'll find soem AGI people have written to do it, but a) they did it wrong and it works for crap and b) using AGI is sloppy, an won't worka s a repalcement for LumenVox that plugs into the Asterisk Speech API that file wrote. |
| 00:24.35 | ruben23 | i installed asterisk...but cant find zapata.conf on my /etc/asterisk directory...can i make it up by myself..? |
| 00:25.07 | ScribbleJ | ruben23 , yes of course, and you might have ment to install the same config files, which are a typically a separate package. |
| 00:25.23 | ScribbleJ | ment = meant, same = sample |
| 00:25.27 | ScribbleJ | I can't type for shit. |
| 00:26.40 | ScribbleJ | I find Goove Salad is excellent music to put on and ignore while coding. |
| 00:27.03 | rob0 | Sphincterisk |
| 00:27.17 | jaytee | I use Lumenvox although I've had issues with it. I developed a prototype IVR with version 8.0 and when my company bought a five port license and I installed 8.6 with that I had all kinds of problems with segfaults. I dropped down to 8.5 and it stabilized but the recognition isn't as reliable as 8.0 was. |
| 00:27.50 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, that's very interesting. We have an IVR using LumenVox - but I have thus far kept away from that project. |
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| 00:28.03 | dwery | I guess I'll have to ask how much June costs |
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| 00:28.18 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, I need to know more about how LumenVox works from the user perspective soon though if I'm going to guarantee my plugin duplicates it's funcitonality sseamlessly. |
| 00:28.23 | telnettech | good evening guys and gals |
| 00:28.26 | ScribbleJ | its |
| 00:28.38 | dwery | gals? no gals here, only IVR prompts |
| 00:29.05 | telnettech | can someone tell me what controls the "expire" heading when you do a sip show peer xxxx |
| 00:29.13 | SparFux | Hi! If I want to connect more phones via TAE than is possible, what is so wrong about connecting them in parallel? It works, but I am not sure wether I want to do such a thing with my new ATA connected to my asterisk computer. It's worth more to me than my old PSTN PBX :-) |
| 00:29.21 | jaytee | just read the speechrec documentation that comes with Asterisk |
| 00:29.27 | telnettech | is that the registration expiration? |
| 00:29.55 | telnettech | and if so, if it is not set by the sip.conf file, is there any other place in Asterisk that can set this? |
| 00:30.00 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, yeah, the speechrec docs have like two example in them, the basic one and the pizza one, IIRC. My system handles /those/ just fine. |
| 00:30.40 | ScribbleJ | Jaytee, I just imagine real-world useage varies somewhat from those. I'll be hitting up the kid on the IVR project at my office soon for how it's done there. |
| 00:30.59 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, I'm talking about on the asterisk side. the speech rec api for asterisk is asterisk specific not lumenvox specific. |
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| 00:32.18 | ScribbleJ | Jaytee, oh, I know, god bless file for writing it that way; I thanked him myself already. I'm so glad it's the "Generic Speech API" and not "The LumenVox Speech API" |
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| 00:33.02 | ScribbleJ | But I've already handled all that... my plugin works great through the API, it's just not a 1-to-1 mapping, for instance, there's no implementation in mine to load/unload a grammar because that's onyl done on lumenvox for licensign reasons |
| 00:33.35 | ScribbleJ | On mine, licensing isn't a concern - so the question becomes more like, are there any side-effects to that call /besides/ loading unloading the grammar in Lumenvox that are going to f me up because I don't duplicate them? |
| 00:33.35 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, that's so a connector piece for a different recognition engine can be configured to plug into the api and use the api in the dialplan making it independent of a specific engine. |
| 00:34.06 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, right, exactly. I know this beause I wrote a 'connector peice' for a different engine already,t hat's what I'm talking about. |
| 00:34.21 | jaytee | file told me that loading all the grammars when asterisk loads is more efficient than loading them dynamically in the dialplan one at a time. |
| 00:34.56 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, yeah, that's how mine works, for reasons of efficeicny. So you are saying the load call is mainly unused in the code for Lumenvox, too. |
| 00:35.15 | file | it's up to the person who writes the dialplan |
| 00:35.20 | ScribbleJ | Yeah |
| 00:35.24 | jaytee | you can use it to preload the grammars or load it when you need the grammar |
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| 00:35.44 | dwery | that's Allison's web site http://www.theivrvoice.com/ |
| 00:35.49 | ScribbleJ | See, that's basically my point - the dialplans under LumenVox probably have a /lot/ of variation and until I see some more of them it's hard to know for sure that my replacement provides true drop-in replacement ability. |
| 00:35.50 | dwery | no, it's not dirty :) |
| 00:36.00 | jaytee | but it runs more quickly if you have them all preloaded and just activate the one you need when you need it and deactivate when you're done. |
| 00:36.40 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, yeah... it delays my systema bout 1 second on recognition if it really loads a grammar at the time it want sto start speech rec, but it avoids that nicely by haing them loaded in advance and only witching them in and out. |
| 00:36.53 | jaytee | exactly |
| 00:37.16 | file | the only time I've heard of someone loading it in the dialplan is when they have a really dynamic grammar that changes all the time... but even then they were told not to do that |
| 00:37.25 | file | as it does introduce that delay |
| 00:37.39 | jaytee | if you want to make a great competing product to Lumenvox just write one that can recognize "south" when calling from cell phone with a speech score of 900 or better. |
| 00:37.40 | ScribbleJ | file, did I mention to you the other day that I would kiss you if you weren't a dude? It was so nice to have this API all ready for me when I had this speech recognition itch to scratch. |
| 00:38.02 | file | ScribbleJ: :) |
| 00:38.08 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, interesting, 'south' vs what, like a 'north-south-east-west' grammar? |
| 00:38.17 | jaytee | yes, exactly |
| 00:38.38 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, I will try it; for the record I have done all my testing over my cellphone, so far. |
| 00:39.21 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, as for the actual /score/.... mine are completely different than what LumenVox must provide, but they follow the general rule that > is better. |
| 00:39.50 | file | I need a thing for my kitchen to hang bananas on... |
| 00:39.57 | ScribbleJ | So '900' doesn't mean anything but if I can test it and get it to knwo 'south' every time over my cell phone in a grammar consisting of 'north' 'south' 'east' and 'west' I'll let you know. |
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| 00:40.14 | jaytee | Lumenvox had me tweak my grammar file by adding phonetics for south "SS AW TH" but it didn't help, actually made things worse and for some reason since it was the second option in the grammar the east and west options would fail too. Couldn't see any typos in the file so not sure why. Worked fine on 8.0 |
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| 00:40.40 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, 900 is a score of 90%. Highest is 1000 |
| 00:40.45 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, that's super interesting.... looks like LumenVox uses the same phenomone set as mone. |
| 00:40.46 | ScribbleJ | mine |
| 00:41.07 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, thanks, that's good to know too, I can map my scores into that range for better compatibility. |
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| 00:43.43 | Micc | Is there a way to run one version of linux native and then run multiple VM's under that one? And have asterisk running on all of them, but the first one using the PRI? |
| 00:44.51 | ScribbleJ | Sure, just do it. |
| 00:45.06 | ScribbleJ | And in fct probably easier to have the host use the PRI since mapping it into a VM would get complicated. |
| 00:45.18 | ScribbleJ | OH but - |
| 00:45.31 | jaytee | and zaptel and dahdi drivers for the PRI don't play well in VM's if at all. |
| 00:45.34 | ScribbleJ | people warn that running Asterisk in a vm means your computer won't process the packets fast enough. |
| 00:45.37 | eppigy | hello |
| 00:45.43 | jaytee | he is dave |
| 00:45.46 | ScribbleJ | I have not had that experience, but YMMV |
| 00:45.54 | eppigy | yes |
| 00:45.56 | eppigy | man |
| 00:46.03 | eppigy | my MWI broke |
| 00:46.09 | eppigy | and I don't know why |
| 00:46.19 | jaytee | I use sipX as a proxy for udp to tcp and it runs in a VM just fine |
| 00:46.21 | eppigy | well I mean I recompiled using the same version |
| 00:46.25 | eppigy | just a new revision |
| 00:47.06 | ScribbleJ | I'll tell you what bugs me, I'm trying to run ASterisk and Ekiga Sofphone on the same machine, Ekiga as a sip client to *... |
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| 00:47.23 | ScribbleJ | And there just doesn't seem to be any way tog et Ekiga to work OK when it can't bind to sport 5060 |
| 00:47.29 | ScribbleJ | Stupid Ekiga. |
| 00:47.37 | ScribbleJ | I've had to move it to another machine for testing. :( |
| 00:47.50 | jaytee | ScribbleJ, make sure Ekiga uses 5061 and not 5060 and only load it AFTER asterisk has fully loaded. |
| 00:48.00 | telnettech | can someone tell me what controls the "expire" heading when you do a sip show peer xxxx is that the registration expiration? and if so, if it is not set by the sip.conf file, is there any other place in Asterisk that can set this? |
| 00:48.12 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, I couldn't find any place to tell Ekiga to use a different source port to bind to. |
| 00:48.18 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, maybe I will look again. |
| 00:48.32 | jaytee | telnettech, hi brian! it's set in the phone |
| 00:49.20 | telnettech | ok so it can only be on the device.....and if it is set in the sip.conf, the hardware takes prescedent over the sip.conf setting, correct? |
| 00:50.02 | jaytee | yep, and I'm not aware of a sip.conf setting to force a client to reregister at a specific interval. |
| 00:51.23 | jaytee | registertimeout is for telling asterisk when IT should reregister to other devices not when THEY should. |
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| 00:51.52 | telnettech | I have a doozy then...i have these Mediatrix Analog gateways that appear to be set for 3600 seconds, which is 1 hour, but i am seing all ports on it register every 120 seconds |
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| 00:52.37 | telnettech | and there are 10 devices controlling 240 extensions....imagine the headache i have from the customer yelling about not being able to use the phones |
| 00:52.56 | jaytee | set for 3600 on the Mediatrix or set for 3600 in sip.conf? |
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| 00:53.19 | eppigy | defaultexpirey=3600 |
| 00:53.40 | lowtek | Hi all, with the core show channel SIP/xxx, what does NativeFormats represent vs Write and Read format? Google isn't helping much ... |
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| 00:54.06 | telnettech | mediatrix, the sip.conf doesnt have anything that would be related to registration |
| 00:55.31 | telnettech | i wanted to make sure i m reading the "Book" right that we got |
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| 01:19.13 | pkunkra | hey folks |
| 01:22.52 | pkunkra | I'm looking for a new voip provider. I'm completely dissatisfied with my current one. Anyone have any recommendations? |
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| 01:30.32 | Micc | Anyone know of a good company in the seattle area that provides local PRIs? Besides integra telecom? |
| 01:30.41 | mchou | pkunkra: who is your current itsp? |
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| 01:43.34 | pkunkra | mchou, teliax |
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| 01:49.12 | mchou | pkunkra: what is it about them that you dont like? |
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| 01:55.00 | obnauticus | Does anyone here use voipjet |
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| 02:01.31 | pkunkra | they keep shutting me off with no warning. I dump $50 into my account at a time, i have auto-recharge enabled on my credit card..... then my customer's email me and tell me my phone isn't working. i email their support desk and find out i've been deactivated because my account is nine cents under. |
| 02:04.20 | pkunkra | they're supposed to just recharge my account automatically. nope, their billing system is wonky. when they shut off, the least they can do is email in advance and let me know they need the money. |
| 02:04.26 | obnauticus | voipjet? |
| 02:04.27 | obnauticus | Wait.. |
| 02:04.31 | obnauticus | they replied to your email?! |
| 02:04.36 | pkunkra | nope, not voipjet. |
| 02:04.41 | obnauticus | damnit |
| 02:04.51 | obnauticus | i need to find a way to contact them |
| 02:05.02 | pkunkra | phone and email doesn't work? |
| 02:05.02 | obnauticus | The only thing wrong with my services is that my MD5 secret is not showing |
| 02:05.11 | obnauticus | I emailed their support email like |
| 02:05.12 | obnauticus | 40 times |
| 02:05.14 | obnauticus | never got a reply |
| 02:05.24 | obnauticus | and i cannot find a contact phone number (how ironic it's a voip company) |
| 02:05.35 | pkunkra | emmm |
| 02:05.52 | pkunkra | hmm, how cheap are they? |
| 02:06.01 | obnauticus | no idea |
| 02:06.07 | obnauticus | i dumped $20 into my account like |
| 02:06.08 | obnauticus | 2 years ago |
| 02:06.15 | pkunkra | because if they're cheap, no one can provide a phone help deks. |
| 02:06.25 | obnauticus | only to find out i was never given an MD5 secret. |
| 02:06.29 | obnauticus | Well, there is absolutely no support |
| 02:06.37 | obnauticus | they have a mailing list that emails outage reports and etc. |
| 02:06.42 | obnauticus | So SOMEONE is writing those |
| 02:06.57 | icebrew54 | haah that sucks |
| 02:07.00 | icebrew54 | switch providers? |
| 02:07.07 | obnauticus | Voipjet |
| 02:07.11 | obnauticus | IAX termination |
| 02:07.15 | pkunkra | i'm ready to switch too. |
| 02:07.25 | pkunkra | i'm trying to find a good provider |
| 02:07.26 | obnauticus | well i don't even know how their service is! |
| 02:07.28 | obnauticus | i dumped $20 in |
| 02:07.30 | drmessano | Let start a provider |
| 02:07.34 | obnauticus | and I don't have my password |
| 02:07.35 | drmessano | Stick it to the man |
| 02:07.35 | obnauticus | >:| |
| 02:07.35 | pkunkra | either that, or terminate my own calls. |
| 02:07.43 | obnauticus | drmessano lol you pay for the T carriers |
| 02:07.50 | drmessano | Screw T carrier |
| 02:07.55 | drmessano | I got SIP |
| 02:07.56 | drmessano | and IAX |
| 02:07.58 | obnauticus | oh god |
| 02:08.01 | drmessano | Peer to Peer, bitches |
| 02:08.05 | obnauticus | oh god |
| 02:08.19 | drmessano | We can call it pwnage |
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| 02:08.31 | drmessano | I even have the song |
| 02:09.00 | obnauticus | it is a registered business |
| 02:09.01 | drmessano | "F*** you.. you who who.. f*** you.. you who who.. " |
| 02:09.04 | obnauticus | i can't find a contact phone number |
| 02:09.09 | drmessano | Just like the vonage tune |
| 02:09.12 | obnauticus | someone help me find a contact # for `Voipjet Inc.` |
| 02:09.13 | obnauticus | lmao |
| 02:09.50 | drmessano | http://www.letmegooglethatforyou.com?q=voipjet |
| 02:09.54 | obnauticus | ... |
| 02:09.58 | obnauticus | i have been...for a long ass time |
| 02:10.36 | drmessano | screw you then.. dont google it.. LYCOS It |
| 02:10.40 | pkunkra | hahahaha |
| 02:10.44 | pkunkra | that's perfect! |
| 02:10.55 | obnauticus | LYCOS!!! |
| 02:11.37 | obnauticus | nac.voipjet.com |
| 02:11.41 | obnauticus | finds infos |
| 02:11.55 | obnauticus | im tempted to call their bandwidth providor and tell them to contact them |
| 02:11.57 | obnauticus | i doubt they would |
| 02:12.43 | pkunkra | voipjet looks a little sketchy |
| 02:12.52 | obnauticus | A lot of people have had a lot of success with them |
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| 02:13.05 | eppigy | why would asterisk send a notify showing zero messages when there are messages present? |
| 02:13.08 | eppigy | http://pastebin.com/d2ef7a702 |
| 02:13.16 | *** part/#asterisk bbhenry (n=hhuang@wsip-68-105-250-226.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 02:13.27 | giovani | anyone have a web interface for recording/cdr viewing per-extension to recommend? ARI seems dead and unavailable without FreePBX attached |
| 02:13.28 | obnauticus | http://whois.domaintools.com/voipjet.com |
| 02:13.34 | obnauticus | damnit |
| 02:13.37 | obnauticus | bashes face on desk |
| 02:14.00 | drmessano | puts thumb tacks on obnauticus' desk and waits for him to get more frustrated |
| 02:14.07 | obnauticus | bashes face on desk again |
| 02:14.13 | obnauticus | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 02:14.15 | drmessano | YAYs |
| 02:14.32 | icebrew54 | lol |
| 02:14.35 | icebrew54 | just get a different provider |
| 02:14.37 | obnauticus | Maybe they have a colo at their NAC |
| 02:14.38 | icebrew54 | or PSTN |
| 02:14.39 | obnauticus | no |
| 02:14.42 | obnauticus | i dumped $20 into this |
| 02:14.45 | obnauticus | it must be done |
| 02:14.48 | icebrew54 | lol 20$ ain't shit |
| 02:14.54 | obnauticus | ... |
| 02:14.56 | obnauticus | it IS SHIT |
| 02:14.58 | obnauticus | lol |
| 02:15.00 | icebrew54 | ha |
| 02:15.02 | obnauticus | no i just have nothing better to do |
| 02:15.06 | icebrew54 | 20$ gets you a soda and a letdown these days |
| 02:15.10 | obnauticus | maybe flowroute is good |
| 02:15.11 | icebrew54 | and it looks you are short the soda buddy |
| 02:15.54 | Pryon | It's not bad, but I'm the same sort of customer you are. |
| 02:16.09 | obnauticus | I don't know what kind of customer I am. I am just bored |
| 02:16.10 | obnauticus | lmao. |
| 02:16.40 | Pryon | Well if $20 is lasting you any length of time, your call volume is probably pretty low |
| 02:17.30 | drmessano | Flowroute doesnt serve my area for DIDs |
| 02:17.30 | Pryon | Anyhoo, I've never had cause to use their customer support, so I've not idea if it sucks or not. My calls get terminated. |
| 02:17.35 | drmessano | Kinda pisses me off |
| 02:17.39 | Pryon | Toll free, baby! |
| 02:17.41 | drmessano | Like, MAD pissed |
| 02:17.47 | drmessano | Fuck toll free |
| 02:17.48 | obnauticus | I'm lucky ipkall's DID's are in my region |
| 02:17.51 | drmessano | I dont need friend |
| 02:17.52 | drmessano | I dont need friends |
| 02:17.58 | obnauticus | 360 is my local area code |
| 02:18.05 | drmessano | You wanna call me ----> Dial some ohio, bitches |
| 02:18.21 | giovani | flowroute has been a mess for me |
| 02:18.26 | giovani | bad incoming call quality for the caller |
| 02:18.34 | giovani | and then they shut down the PAID passthrough :) |
| 02:18.38 | obnauticus | Is flowroute any good |
| 02:18.38 | obnauticus | ? |
| 02:18.48 | rob0 | 360 is due north |
| 02:18.51 | obnauticus | ya |
| 02:19.01 | Pryon | they list 360 in their list of DIDs |
| 02:19.02 | pkunkra | yah know... i'm searching for new voip providers. they all look like crap. |
| 02:19.11 | drmessano | Callcentric looked OK.. but the termination sucks |
| 02:19.14 | giovani | all depends on your needs |
| 02:19.19 | giovani | I've liked voicepulse for origination |
| 02:19.32 | giovani | and voip.ms has been alright |
| 02:19.45 | drmessano | les.net has been ok.. Just no DID's near here |
| 02:19.47 | rob0 | gets by with ipkall orig <shrug> |
| 02:19.49 | x86 | i love les.net for termination |
| 02:19.57 | ScribbleJ | I tried voicepulse and Broadvoice; both were OK but voicepuls seems nicer for playng around with. |
| 02:19.58 | giovani | dr0ck: les.net runs on horribly cheap-ass servers in michigan |
| 02:20.10 | giovani | sorry, drmessano* |
| 02:20.12 | Pryon | wants an ass server |
| 02:20.18 | x86 | giovani: actually no, they are in canada |
| 02:20.50 | pkunkra | packet8? |
| 02:20.51 | giovani | x86: no ... |
| 02:20.59 | giovani | www.les.net runs out of theplanet in texas |
| 02:21.06 | drmessano | giovani: and provider x has sucky call quality, provider y has sucky customer service, provider Z has shitty rates.. |
| 02:21.09 | x86 | giovani: yep, look at the website, you'll find all about about their Quebec data center |
| 02:21.17 | giovani | x86: traceroute the box |
| 02:21.34 | x86 | giovani: I think they have pictures of the fiber being laid that goes into their building |
| 02:21.43 | giovani | they can post as many pictures as they want |
| 02:21.47 | giovani | feel free to look at the ACTUAL ips |
| 02:21.48 | x86 | giovani: ok, so the website is hosted in texas... so? they run out of canada |
| 02:21.51 | x86 | giovani: call them |
| 02:22.20 | drmessano | I just tracerouted them, and got washdc |
| 02:22.27 | x86 | website? |
| 02:22.33 | drmessano | Which is close to Virginia, which is what I always heard |
| 02:22.39 | giovani | x86: no, the sip server |
| 02:22.39 | drmessano | for the East coast |
| 02:22.51 | drmessano | Not Michigan |
| 02:22.53 | giovani | x86: did.voip.les.net |
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| 02:23.40 | drmessano | Yep |
| 02:23.45 | drmessano | Washington DC-ish |
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| 02:24.42 | murdock_ut | eric2: Did you figure out your BLF? |
| 02:25.00 | drmessano | You realize that a traceroute is only going to hit the nearest proxy |
| 02:25.07 | drmessano | That les.net doesnt handle media |
| 02:25.09 | pkunkra | eh.... |
| 02:25.18 | pkunkra | looks like i have to terminate my own. |
| 02:25.35 | drmessano | Not sure where the shitty michigan servers comes from |
| 02:25.54 | x86 | yeah me niether |
| 02:26.02 | x86 | they've got servers in quebec though |
| 02:26.08 | x86 | that's where i was getting my service from |
| 02:26.20 | x86 | they have local (copper) service in winnipeg too |
| 02:26.40 | pkunkra | hmmm. gizmo? |
| 02:26.48 | drmessano | heh |
| 02:26.59 | drmessano | Not a bad option for origination |
| 02:27.04 | drmessano | I was gonna try it |
| 02:27.11 | drmessano | Termination too expensive |
| 02:27.34 | giovani | voicepulse, voip.ms, and vitelity take care of 99% of my termination |
| 02:27.40 | giovani | voicepulse has awesome metro US rates |
| 02:27.44 | giovani | often pay 0.5c/min |
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| 02:29.02 | obnauticus | wtf is pbx in a flash |
| 02:29.11 | giovani | nonsense |
| 02:29.14 | mchou | giovani: you happy with voicepulse call quality? |
| 02:29.51 | giovani | mchou: yeah, no complaints except for a handful of bad events -- but every carrier has those |
| 02:29.51 | giovani | been with them for 2.5 years now I think |
| 02:30.04 | mchou | giovani: well, that's b4 they went "stealth" |
| 02:30.11 | giovani | stealth? |
| 02:30.50 | mchou | yeah. they pretty much steer you now toward their "plans" |
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| 02:30.57 | giovani | ... huh? |
| 02:31.04 | giovani | we're talking about different things obviously |
| 02:31.11 | giovani | voicepulse connect, which is the real sip/iax service |
| 02:31.13 | mchou | check out their home page |
| 02:31.13 | giovani | has no plans |
| 02:31.22 | giovani | right, consumer-facing -- so? |
| 02:31.40 | giovani | http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/default.aspx |
| 02:31.46 | giovani | that's their "wholesale" product |
| 02:31.54 | giovani | which is why we're obviously talking about in #asterisk |
| 02:32.28 | mchou | bach in the day they made connect way more obvious on their home page |
| 02:32.35 | mchou | now you have to dig |
| 02:32.43 | mchou | back* |
| 02:35.14 | drmessano | $11 a month? |
| 02:35.40 | drmessano | Thats insane |
| 02:36.14 | mchou | drmessano: huh?? |
| 02:36.40 | drmessano | $11 month for DID with 4 channels/unlimited incoming |
| 02:36.56 | mchou | drmessano: oh. that |
| 02:36.58 | mchou | lol |
| 02:37.08 | mchou | dont get a did from them |
| 02:37.14 | mchou | outbound only :) |
| 02:38.03 | drmessano | Well, I have lots of options for termination |
| 02:38.22 | drmessano | Just cant seem to find a good mix of decent orig/term |
| 02:38.31 | mchou | drmessano: you seem to be hard up for DIDs |
| 02:38.34 | obnauticus | http://img.4chan.org/b/res/115223781.html |
| 02:38.35 | obnauticus | :| |
| 02:39.28 | drmessano | No, just want something that doesnt suck |
| 02:39.55 | drmessano | HAHAHHAHAH |
| 02:39.57 | drmessano | You: i accidentally a whole router |
| 02:39.58 | drmessano | WIN |
| 02:40.35 | mchou | drmessano: what? |
| 02:40.45 | obnauticus | lol |
| 02:40.49 | obnauticus | drmessano i accidentally a whole router :| |
| 02:40.53 | obnauticus | damn |
| 02:40.59 | obnauticus | i need a UHF Radio |
| 02:41.02 | obnauticus | anyone wanna sell one to me |
| 02:41.02 | obnauticus | lol |
| 02:41.21 | obnauticus | I mean, people steel them from cars all the time i figure they would be on craigslist...but they aren't :| |
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| 02:43.00 | Pryon | UHF? Who wants to drink from the firehose??!?!?!?! |
| 02:44.16 | drmessano | Why do you need a UHF radio? |
| 02:44.30 | obnauticus | I'm setting up a repeater real fast |
| 02:44.38 | obnauticus | for ham -> commericial band |
| 02:44.57 | drmessano | Thats illegal |
| 02:45.01 | obnauticus | Not if you are licensed. |
| 02:45.40 | drmessano | lol |
| 02:45.42 | drmessano | Yes it is |
| 02:45.46 | obnauticus | nope |
| 02:45.56 | drmessano | You cannot cross between services, even you possess a license for both services |
| 02:46.00 | drmessano | It sure as hell is |
| 02:46.03 | obnauticus | Yes you can. |
| 02:46.14 | drmessano | Um no |
| 02:46.17 | obnauticus | yes |
| 02:46.19 | drmessano | Never been legal |
| 02:46.21 | drmessano | Never will be |
| 02:46.22 | obnauticus | Links. |
| 02:46.27 | drmessano | Uh you? |
| 02:46.37 | obnauticus | I know it's legal because ham peopel do it all the time |
| 02:46.42 | drmessano | No they do not |
| 02:46.43 | obnauticus | between 2 meter and other bands |
| 02:46.45 | obnauticus | yes they do. |
| 02:46.47 | obnauticus | silly |
| 02:46.56 | drmessano | You cannout cross between services |
| 02:46.58 | obnauticus | yes. |
| 02:46.59 | drmessano | cannot* |
| 02:47.07 | drmessano | Ok, between 2 meters and what? |
| 02:47.14 | drmessano | Police, fire, what? |
| 02:47.15 | obnauticus | shortwave |
| 02:47.18 | drmessano | Joes garage |
| 02:47.31 | drmessano | Shortwave? Like HF Ham? |
| 02:47.44 | obnauticus | yup |
| 02:47.51 | obnauticus | but you have to posess a licesne for that |
| 02:47.55 | drmessano | Youre a fucking doofus.. Thats the SAME RADIO SERVICE |
| 02:47.59 | obnauticus | no retard |
| 02:48.13 | drmessano | HF and 2 meters is still AMATEUR RADIO |
| 02:48.16 | obnauticus | if you posess 40m/20m/70cm license (i.e. technician) you can't actually use some other services... |
| 02:48.21 | obnauticus | yes |
| 02:48.23 | drmessano | Not commercial |
| 02:48.24 | drmessano | No |
| 02:48.27 | obnauticus | but you need to posess a license to operate on the other frequency. |
| 02:48.32 | obnauticus | same concept. |
| 02:48.47 | drmessano | Negative.. you cannot crossband ham to commercial services.. only ham band <> ham band |
| 02:48.59 | drmessano | Only exception is space shuttle retransmissions |
| 02:49.06 | drmessano | Which are covered in Part 97 |
| 02:49.08 | obnauticus | no |
| 02:49.13 | obnauticus | you forgot satellite's |
| 02:49.19 | drmessano | Which are also HAM |
| 02:49.22 | drmessano | HAM BANDS |
| 02:49.23 | obnauticus | lulz |
| 02:49.33 | obnauticus | I also just said UHF |
| 02:49.36 | drmessano | Only HAM SATELLITES |
| 02:49.37 | obnauticus | i could have said 444MHz |
| 02:49.39 | obnauticus | which is legal |
| 02:49.41 | obnauticus | crossband ham |
| 02:49.44 | drmessano | [21:45] <obnauticus> for ham -> commericial band |
| 02:49.47 | obnauticus | wut |
| 02:49.49 | obnauticus | no |
| 02:49.51 | drmessano | FAIL |
| 02:50.01 | Iamnacho | 0wn3d |
| 02:50.23 | obnauticus | what i meant wasa commericial radios are cheap and operate in that band |
| 02:51.29 | Pryon | I don't think those are to be found in cars |
| 02:51.39 | obnauticus | a lot of people steal them |
| 02:51.52 | drmessano | Im pretty sure he doesnt know what hes talking about.. Soooo.. moving on |
| 02:51.58 | mchou | obnauticus: dude |
| 02:52.23 | mchou | obnauticus: you buying stolen goods....might as well go steal them yourself |
| 02:52.30 | obnauticus | naw i don't want to be responsible |
| 02:52.35 | obnauticus | that is why i was looking on craigslist. |
| 02:52.40 | mchou | lol |
| 02:52.40 | coppice | too much effort |
| 02:52.47 | obnauticus | i'd wrather not steal one. |
| 02:52.53 | rob0 | ham sandwiches |
| 02:52.59 | Pryon | you'd rather receive stolen property? |
| 02:53.11 | obnauticus | it's not my fault though :\ |
| 02:53.17 | Pryon | tell it to the judge |
| 02:53.18 | obnauticus | plus i never knew if it was stolen or not |
| 02:53.20 | mchou | in the eyes of the law there's not much difference between stealing and knowing buying stolen stuff |
| 02:53.23 | obnauticus | it's just an assumption if it's on craigslist. |
| 02:53.30 | drmessano | Who the hell wants a commercial radio for casual 440 use |
| 02:53.37 | obnauticus | drmessano they're cheaper on CL |
| 02:53.40 | obnauticus | and on the internet |
| 02:53.43 | drmessano | No |
| 02:53.45 | obnauticus | yes |
| 02:53.53 | obnauticus | I mean, sure the hams are more versitile |
| 02:53.56 | drmessano | 16 channel old programmable ass radio for $75 |
| 02:53.57 | obnauticus | but if you're setting up a crossband repeater |
| 02:54.04 | drmessano | Waste of time |
| 02:54.11 | obnauticus | i found one for $.50 on ebayh |
| 02:54.12 | obnauticus | lol |
| 02:54.20 | ScribbleJ | I remember we used to play CB Tag around town in high shcool. |
| 02:54.26 | obnauticus | \ |
| 02:54.27 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 02:54.29 | drmessano | and you probably need channel elements |
| 02:54.31 | ScribbleJ | When just eing out in a car was fun enough. |
| 02:54.31 | drmessano | and reeds |
| 02:54.44 | drmessano | which end up running $75 or so when all is said and done |
| 02:55.29 | obnauticus | errr |
| 02:55.32 | obnauticus | no |
| 02:55.59 | drmessano | You're out of your league.. I've been around radio since you were in diapers |
| 02:56.01 | drmessano | I know how this works |
| 02:56.10 | obnauticus | what's your call sign |
| 02:56.17 | drmessano | Not gonna tell you |
| 02:56.20 | drmessano | Go Google it |
| 02:56.23 | obnauticus | ya because you don't have one |
| 02:56.26 | drmessano | ROFL |
| 02:56.31 | drmessano | I've had mine for 15 years |
| 02:56.33 | obnauticus | im just trying to get you to say it lol |
| 02:56.34 | drmessano | Dumbass |
| 02:57.36 | drmessano | You're better off buying an actual used repeater than a radio to use for one |
| 02:57.49 | obnauticus | why is that |
| 02:57.52 | drmessano | MSF5000 for $200 or so |
| 02:58.05 | drmessano | Thats PA, RF deck, and maybe even cavities |
| 02:58.18 | obnauticus | I think I'd learn more setting one up myself :\ |
| 02:58.19 | drmessano | Fully programmable, and not shit old |
| 02:58.29 | drmessano | Waste of time |
| 02:58.32 | obnauticus | fuck programmable |
| 02:58.39 | obnauticus | I want a fucking VFO |
| 02:58.47 | obnauticus | or im not paying $200 |
| 02:58.53 | ScribbleJ | AW hell |
| 02:58.55 | drmessano | You wont get a VFO on a commercial rig |
| 02:58.55 | obnauticus | vfo dial** |
| 02:58.57 | drmessano | DUH |
| 02:58.57 | coppice | if it has cavaties, won't the dental bill be high? |
| 02:58.59 | obnauticus | ya i know |
| 02:59.00 | obnauticus | pissing me off |
| 02:59.03 | obnauticus | why don't they do that anyway |
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| 02:59.29 | drmessano | Because commercial rigs cant get type acceptance in the US if they have a VFO |
| 02:59.34 | drmessano | Its not legal |
| 02:59.40 | obnauticus | errr |
| 03:00.17 | obnauticus | I did find a cheap ass GMRS radio |
| 03:00.31 | obnauticus | and it's in the frequency i need |
| 03:00.40 | obnauticus | however i can't find any documentation on programming the channels of the damn thing. |
| 03:00.48 | drmessano | 2 watts? |
| 03:01.14 | obnauticus | ya, i don't need more than that though |
| 03:01.25 | obnauticus | I have a 65W sitting right here |
| 03:01.32 | obnauticus | Yaesu FT-2800M |
| 03:01.36 | obnauticus | it's pretty nice for 2m |
| 03:01.59 | drmessano | I wont get another FT-2XXX series |
| 03:02.04 | obnauticus | why |
| 03:02.08 | Iamnacho | that's what i have, the 2800 |
| 03:02.14 | drmessano | FT-2400 was a bust, and the FT-2500 got hot as shit |
| 03:02.20 | drmessano | Havent touched one since |
| 03:02.29 | obnauticus | my 2800M is designed like a bigass heatsink |
| 03:02.29 | drmessano | I got 3 FT-7800s.. they're decent |
| 03:02.39 | drmessano | The 2500 had a bigass heatsink too |
| 03:02.42 | drmessano | and it still got too hot |
| 03:02.49 | obnauticus | no, this thing IS a heatsink with a screen on it |
| 03:02.50 | obnauticus | lmao |
| 03:02.51 | eppigy | heatsinkz |
| 03:02.59 | eppigy | i gots 24s |
| 03:03.03 | eppigy | in my boxen |
| 03:03.12 | drmessano | I know.. the 2500 was one piece of die chassis with top and bottom covers |
| 03:03.20 | obnauticus | well |
| 03:03.22 | drmessano | with the finals mounted on the inside, right in the middle of the find |
| 03:03.24 | drmessano | with the finals mounted on the inside, right in the middle of the fins |
| 03:03.24 | obnauticus | it is a pretty solid design |
| 03:03.35 | drmessano | They just dont do high power rigs well |
| 03:03.35 | obnauticus | like, this thing could probably take a bat |
| 03:03.39 | obnauticus | ya |
| 03:03.46 | obnauticus | yaesu does nice handhealds though |
| 03:03.51 | obnauticus | the VX-7R i hear is pretty nice |
| 03:04.12 | drmessano | My FT-7800s stay cool to the touch, even with crap VSWR |
| 03:04.45 | drmessano | One in my vehicle runs about 1.8:1 most of the time.. dual band commercial antenna |
| 03:05.09 | drmessano | Never had a heat problem, no RF arifacts, and its reciever is hot as hell |
| 03:05.12 | drmessano | Even out of band |
| 03:05.29 | obnauticus | i want a 7800 |
| 03:05.49 | drmessano | I had friends who sold 8900s to get 7800s |
| 03:05.53 | obnauticus | :| |
| 03:06.04 | drmessano | They're not dual VFO, but they also have lit buttons |
| 03:06.09 | drmessano | and readable displays |
| 03:06.34 | obnauticus | well i got this POS GMRS radio right here |
| 03:06.39 | obnauticus | i wonder if it has a JTAG interface or something |
| 03:06.43 | drmessano | Im planning on getting another and interfacing it bluetooth to Asterisk |
| 03:07.02 | obnauticus | they have ast_rpt |
| 03:07.50 | obnauticus | that looked pretty interesting |
| 03:07.53 | obnauticus | except that radio interface card |
| 03:08.02 | obnauticus | that's just like a quad serial card with an RJ45 interface instead of DB9 :\ |
| 03:08.09 | drmessano | If you just need a rig that will do 430-470 with a VFO at 5 watts, a Puxing PX-888 works |
| 03:08.19 | drmessano | The USB is the preferred method now |
| 03:08.25 | obnauticus | ew :\ |
| 03:08.33 | drmessano | Since the Quad Radio card is out of production |
| 03:08.37 | obnauticus | it is |
| 03:08.39 | obnauticus | errrrr... |
| 03:08.54 | obnauticus | was i right though, it's just quad serial with 4 serial interfaces |
| 03:08.56 | drmessano | You can get the USB sound device for $15 on ebay |
| 03:09.00 | obnauticus | and possibly a transistor to ground |
| 03:09.05 | obnauticus | oh, usb SOUND |
| 03:09.07 | drmessano | No, theres much more to it |
| 03:09.10 | obnauticus | i think that thing had PTT abilities and stuff |
| 03:09.20 | obnauticus | like you didjn't need to make your own circuit, just match the pinout |
| 03:09.23 | drmessano | Yes, USB SOUND and then PTT via serial I believe |
| 03:09.31 | drmessano | or maybe parallel |
| 03:09.42 | obnauticus | I think the quad radio card also did the sound interfacing for you |
| 03:09.43 | drmessano | Dunno, but its like $20 if you buy new |
| 03:09.53 | drmessano | Yes, and it had Zaptel drivers, etc |
| 03:09.57 | obnauticus | damn |
| 03:09.58 | carrar | WHAT IS GOING ON!! |
| 03:09.58 | obnauticus | i want one of those |
| 03:09.58 | drmessano | But it was expensive as shit |
| 03:10.04 | obnauticus | wasn't it like |
| 03:10.05 | obnauticus | $500 |
| 03:10.06 | obnauticus | or something |
| 03:10.08 | drmessano | yeah |
| 03:10.38 | drmessano | Like I am attaching a $500 to a fucking radio connected to an antenna at 850ft AMSL |
| 03:10.43 | drmessano | $500 card |
| 03:11.15 | drmessano | Id prefer a nice cheap ass USB *FUSE* |
| 03:11.23 | drmessano | Buy two, they're small |
| 03:11.35 | obnauticus | lol |
| 03:11.35 | drmessano | Use a $5 PCI serial or parallel card |
| 03:11.38 | obnauticus | 500mW fuse? |
| 03:12.05 | drmessano | Its a device that sits in between something <> something.. which by classification, is a fuse |
| 03:12.43 | obnauticus | damint |
| 03:12.56 | esaym | is it a good idea to use the sip jitter buffer in asterisk 1.4.x? I can't really tell a difference with it on or off... I don't want to leave it on though if it is going to cause problems |
| 03:12.58 | drmessano | Sure, a direct strike wont blush hitting a little USB sound device |
| 03:13.07 | drmessano | But direct strike are rare |
| 03:13.10 | obnauticus | this thing has a frequency range of `462.5500-462.7250MHZ, AND 162.400-162.5500 |
| 03:13.17 | pkunkra | hmmm. vonage? |
| 03:13.19 | obnauticus | so i know it's capible of probably 450-470MHz |
| 03:13.25 | drmessano | Most of the time its residual shit that bleeds off and hits 10 or 12 devices in the chain |
| 03:13.39 | obnauticus | ya |
| 03:13.52 | drmessano | obnauticus: Burned in the firmware, and you wont be hacking it.. |
| 03:15.17 | obnauticus | drmessano i figured |
| 03:15.45 | drmessano | If you have any questions, contact the legal departments at Uniden, Midland, etc.. and ask them about the analog cellular fiasco.. they probably still have the leftover jars of A&D ointment |
| 03:16.10 | obnauticus | heh |
| 03:16.13 | obnauticus | how do you program midland radio's? |
| 03:16.31 | drmessano | I'm talking about scanners |
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| 03:16.44 | obnauticus | oh |
| 03:16.48 | drmessano | Which falls in the same realm of "not a chance you're gonna mod this" |
| 03:16.51 | obnauticus | well i mean any rf |
| 03:16.52 | carrar | obnauticus, whats your call sign? I bet there is a local group of hams where you live that can help |
| 03:17.01 | drmessano | N0CALL |
| 03:17.01 | obnauticus | LOL |
| 03:17.06 | obnauticus | L0LITA |
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| 03:17.20 | carrar | oh you don't have a lic? why not? |
| 03:17.22 | drmessano | F4IL |
| 03:17.25 | obnauticus | ya i do |
| 03:17.28 | carrar | oh |
| 03:17.29 | obnauticus | im just not giving you my call sign |
| 03:17.30 | obnauticus | lol |
| 03:17.30 | carrar | what is it |
| 03:17.34 | carrar | <- W7RSZ |
| 03:17.37 | obnauticus | oh |
| 03:17.45 | obnauticus | hold |
| 03:17.55 | obnauticus | oh |
| 03:17.56 | drmessano | carrar: He's N0CLU |
| 03:17.57 | obnauticus | you aren't too far from me |
| 03:18.00 | obnauticus | im in vancouver |
| 03:18.05 | obnauticus | i'll notice it to you |
| 03:18.23 | drmessano | Im trying to remember what app had N0CLU |
| 03:18.30 | carrar | nice |
| 03:18.32 | drmessano | WinAPRS had N0CALL |
| 03:18.41 | obnauticus | lol it did? |
| 03:18.46 | drmessano | Maybe it had N0CLU too |
| 03:18.50 | obnauticus | i want |
| 03:18.51 | obnauticus | L0LITA |
| 03:18.52 | drmessano | Yes, as the default call |
| 03:18.52 | carrar | Lots of ham going on up there with the olympics coming |
| 03:19.04 | pkunkra | yeah, i think i'll switch to vonage. |
| 03:19.05 | obnauticus | why.... :\ |
| 03:19.09 | pkunkra | they look the best so far. |
| 03:19.24 | obnauticus | drn tgus us ab audiovox radio |
| 03:19.30 | obnauticus | drmessano this is an audiovox radio* |
| 03:19.30 | obnauticus | wow |
| 03:19.48 | pkunkra | a bit pricey, but the damn thing will stay up. and the device is pretty portable. |
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| 03:20.01 | carrar | I thought there were some HAM cards for asterisk |
| 03:20.04 | drmessano | Audiovox.. wow.. |
| 03:20.10 | carrar | someone made some for repeater linking |
| 03:20.11 | drmessano | carrar: There were |
| 03:20.24 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 03:20.25 | obnauticus | hmm |
| 03:20.30 | drmessano | carrar: The Quad Radio PCI Card.. had Zaptel drivers and all |
| 03:20.35 | carrar | even the repeater app |
| 03:20.41 | obnauticus | drmessano who maintained that project? |
| 03:20.43 | drmessano | carrar: But the new, preferred method is the USB Sound Cards |
| 03:20.50 | carrar | ah |
| 03:20.58 | obnauticus | drmessano can you link me to an article explaining the USB ....method |
| 03:21.02 | obnauticus | or however peopel are doing that these days |
| 03:21.10 | drmessano | http://allstarlink.org/ |
| 03:21.34 | carrar | app_rpt.c |
| 03:21.46 | carrar | * Copyright (C) 2002-2007, Jim Dixon, WB6NIL |
| 03:21.53 | carrar | * Serious contributions by Steve RoDgers, WA6ZFT <hwstar@rodgers.sdcoxmail.com> |
| 03:22.36 | obnauticus | gotta love chinese engineering |
| 03:22.44 | obnauticus | damn screws |
| 03:23.01 | pkunkra | why? do you have to twist them left instead of right? |
| 03:23.46 | drmessano | http://app-rpt.qrvc.com/usbsoundfob.html |
| 03:24.05 | carrar | nice |
| 03:25.27 | obnauticus | oh wow, that's awesome |
| 03:25.37 | obnauticus | the metal unscrewing part of this screw driver came loose |
| 03:25.42 | obnauticus | so now it's completely useless |
| 03:25.56 | drmessano | The USB deal is awesome |
| 03:26.15 | drmessano | and basically connects to the DATA port of most newer rigs |
| 03:26.25 | obnauticus | oh wut |
| 03:27.02 | obnauticus | drmessano does that also control PTT? |
| 03:27.06 | drmessano | yes |
| 03:27.14 | obnauticus | how :\ |
| 03:27.49 | drmessano | Add a few parts, and you make a keying circuit |
| 03:28.07 | obnauticus | oh i see what they did there |
| 03:28.10 | obnauticus | oh wait |
| 03:28.12 | obnauticus | nm no i don't |
| 03:28.21 | obnauticus | i guess i have to look at the insturctions first |
| 03:28.36 | drmessano | 2N4401 and a diode |
| 03:28.44 | drmessano | Few discreet components |
| 03:28.48 | drmessano | Resistors, caps, etc |
| 03:28.52 | drmessano | Not too complicated |
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| 03:29.52 | carrar | hardest part is making sure you get a CM108 it looks like |
| 03:30.03 | drmessano | Yes |
| 03:31.23 | coppice | the CM108 is very common, but total crap |
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| 03:38.38 | Micc | Would it be best to get a bunch of older 1U servers or a couple new dual proc quad core Xeon's to offer asterisk services to customers? |
| 03:39.26 | Micc | I'm not sure if I should do VM or not. Some people say its great, but I can't afford it to have any amount of audio disruption. |
| 03:39.56 | pkunkra | micc, run asterisk on a VM? |
| 03:40.16 | Micc | pkunkra, yeah thats what I"m doing now on a VPS for 50$ a month. |
| 03:40.20 | Micc | And it seems to be working great. |
| 03:40.26 | pkunkra | yeah, it works fine. |
| 03:40.35 | pkunkra | unless the machine is heavily loaded. |
| 03:41.10 | pkunkra | the general consensus is to put it on its own physical machine, or a lightly loaded VM. |
| 03:41.29 | Micc | A newer server could be split into 6 or 8 VM's and handle about 50 calls each, right? |
| 03:41.40 | pkunkra | i don't know |
| 03:43.11 | pkunkra | voip sends about five packets a second. |
| 03:43.37 | Micc | I guess I'll have to do some testing of my own. |
| 03:43.42 | pkunkra | so you can do the math from there. |
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| 03:56.25 | shtoom | Hi I've a 4 port TDM card from digium running two FXO and one FXS port. FXS suddenly stopped working and whenever I make a call to FXS it rings(small beep), answers and hangups immediately with out lifting the handset. Also there is no dialtone. I've looked in dmesg every thing looks normal. I've also changed the FXS module to the free (4th) port still its the same. what could be the issue ? |
| 03:58.36 | shtoom | I've made sure power connector is connected to the card and even changed the power connector also. If I disconnect phone from FXS port it shows on asterisk console as Zap/1-1 ringing continuously. If I connect phone back to FXS port again it behaves like expalined above. |
| 04:00.48 | sipy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.08 | sipy | My Digium cards had issues with the modules. Replacing them fixed the problem. |
| 04:02.24 | shtoom | sipy: Rest of the two FXO modules are working fine. So you mean to say FXS module is faulty ? |
| 04:02.52 | codefreeze-lap | shtoom: running the dahdi interface instead of the zap? |
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| 04:03.58 | shtoom | codefreeze-lap:I am running Zap interface problem is same across various versions of asterisk ( 1.2 , 1.4 ) |
| 04:05.04 | codefreeze-lap | Then I'd be of the same opinion as sipy; looks like the module went wacko... you could call digium support |
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| 04:07.29 | sipy | move it to a different slot on the card and try it. |
| 04:08.01 | sipy | Got nothing to lose at this point. |
| 04:08.20 | shtoom | sipy: as explained above I did that already , moved it from 1 to 4 , its still the same |
| 04:09.49 | sipy | Did you reconfigure? |
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| 04:11.39 | shtoom | sipy: yes I did,( otherwise zap will not load in to asterisk ) |
| 04:12.05 | sipy | Replace the module |
| 04:12.56 | shtoom | sipy: module is faulty, right ? |
| 04:14.50 | [TK]D-Fender | shtoom: Nothing conclusive, it could be the entire base card |
| 04:16.11 | [TK]D-Fender | shtoom: But before going there, pastbin your zapata.conf , zaptel.con, dmesg , ztcfg -vvvv |
| 04:16.11 | shtoom | [TK]D-Fender: but the rest of the two FXO modules are working fine so the base card it ok right ? |
| 04:16.56 | shtoom | [TK]D-Fender:Yesterday I did this trouble shooting, I am not at that system right now. and it is not remotely accessible. |
| 04:17.35 | [TK]D-Fender | shtoom: Not a great time to asking for help or advice... |
| 04:18.42 | pkunkra | yeah, you should have access to the system before asking that kind of stuff. |
| 04:19.16 | pkunkra | anyone have any recommendations for voip providers? I'm thinking of going with vonage. |
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| 04:20.22 | sipy | Barring what TK said, you don't have a replacement module on hand so you can't tell if its the module or the base card other than testing the other ports with the known modules and that won't be 100%. you really should keep spare parts for times as these. |
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| 04:21.31 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: Really bad inter-op choice |
| 04:21.59 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: They are not * friendly. their base are the brain-dead masses vai ATA's |
| 04:22.09 | pkunkra | yeah, they just give you a ATA, that's it. |
| 04:22.20 | pkunkra | but all i really want is one phone. |
| 04:22.23 | pkunkra | that works. |
| 04:22.29 | pkunkra | anywhere in the us... |
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| 04:23.47 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: And that's different from every other ITSP..... how? |
| 04:24.12 | pkunkra | my current one doesn't work all the time. |
| 04:24.20 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: Namely? |
| 04:24.27 | pkunkra | and i'm looking at others and they don't look that much more reliable. |
| 04:25.20 | pkunkra | ... trying not to drop names here... unless you really want to know which one i'm using now. |
| 04:26.44 | pkunkra | anyways, [TK]D-Fender. are there any ITSP's that you do recommend? |
| 04:26.48 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: It'd be nice to know who isn't cutting it for you |
| 04:27.00 | pkunkra | sure. my ITSP is Teliax. |
| 04:27.37 | riddlebox | pkunkra, i use them they have been great |
| 04:27.59 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: Yeah, they are occasionally spotty, and you should definitely be using SIP, and not IAX with them |
| 04:28.15 | [TK]D-Fender | ~itsplist-ux |
| 04:28.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ~itsplist-ud |
| 04:28.32 | [TK]D-Fender | ~itsplist-us |
| 04:28.33 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net |
| 04:28.33 | [TK]D-Fender | danit |
| 04:28.37 | [TK]D-Fender | dangit. |
| 04:28.40 | riddlebox | hrmm i have been using sip but i don make many calls |
| 04:28.41 | [TK]D-Fender | just can't type tonight |
| 04:29.00 | pkunkra | Yeah, I used to think the same. They keep shutting me off though without a courtesy email. This is now the third time in the last two months I've had a customer email me and tell me my phone weren't working. |
| 04:29.13 | pkunkra | i've done auto-recharge on my credit card. |
| 04:29.25 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: Vitelity has been getting a lot of noise around here and seem pretty solid |
| 04:29.28 | pkunkra | kept it filled at $50. no dice. |
| 04:29.45 | pkunkra | Vitelity? Ok. I can look them up. |
| 04:29.49 | [TK]D-Fender | pkunkra: les.net is very solid as well |
| 04:30.06 | pkunkra | les.net? I heard they're kinda spotty? |
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| 04:32.09 | Micc | Is there any benefit to having asterisk run on a 64 bit machine? |
| 04:32.31 | pkunkra | hmmm. i can't imagine it being a large benefit. |
| 04:32.35 | pkunkra | small one perhaps. |
| 04:32.45 | obnauticus | drmessano do you know how the RIB programming interface works? |
| 04:33.15 | jaytee | since it can handle twice as many bits as a 32 bit machine at a time, calls finish twice as fast! |
| 04:33.26 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus speaks! |
| 04:33.28 | jaytee | :-) |
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| 04:33.36 | Micc | jaytee, funny. |
| 04:34.27 | rue_house | http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/images/p1000473.jpg |
| 04:34.52 | rue_house | http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/images/p1000472.jpg <-- fuzzy one is current |
| 04:34.56 | obnauticus | Corydon76-dig!!!!! |
| 04:34.58 | obnauticus | OMGLOLOLOL |
| 04:35.04 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: you planning on following in the footsteps of file? |
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| 04:35.13 | obnauticus | of what file? |
| 04:35.16 | rue_house | 1mw from provider |
| 04:35.17 | obnauticus | don't even remember |
| 04:35.42 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: 17yo Asterisk expert, then got hired right out of high school |
| 04:35.56 | obnauticus | wut |
| 04:36.06 | rue_house | haha |
| 04:36.11 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 04:36.23 | Corydon76-dig | and his comprehension surpasses mine |
| 04:36.28 | obnauticus | probably |
| 04:36.47 | rue_house | I bet not even he could make my office work :) |
| 04:36.56 | criten | I wish I were as smart as a 17 year old :( |
| 04:36.58 | obnauticus | omglololol |
| 04:37.04 | obnauticus | same here |
| 04:37.23 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: don't you have like a year to go before 17? |
| 04:37.42 | obnauticus | Corydon76-dig when did I talk to you about this? |
| 04:37.45 | carrar | I used to have a oscilloscope |
| 04:37.57 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: a while back |
| 04:37.58 | carrar | my dad has it now |
| 04:38.07 | obnauticus | naw i just freelance program Corydon76-dig |
| 04:38.16 | obnauticus | i don't make anything directly with asterisk |
| 04:38.32 | Corydon76-dig | obnauticus: don't you remember? You were concerned I was going to try to get into your pants |
| 04:38.47 | obnauticus | I thought you already got into my pants |
| 04:39.03 | Corydon76-dig | Uh, no |
| 04:39.11 | obnauticus | wrong Corydon76-dig then |
| 04:39.13 | Corydon76-dig | Not planning, not trying |
| 04:39.18 | obnauticus | i remember he flashed some ID |
| 04:39.21 | obnauticus | at astricon |
| 04:39.26 | obnauticus | and then he pulled me into a bathroom |
| 04:39.38 | eppigy | lol |
| 04:39.50 | Corydon76-dig | You were at Astricon? |
| 04:39.50 | pkunkra | eh? |
| 04:39.57 | obnauticus | Yes. |
| 04:39.58 | eppigy | sound like my kinda party |
| 04:40.03 | eppigy | sounds |
| 04:40.03 | Corydon76-dig | 2008? |
| 04:40.07 | obnauticus | 2007 |
| 04:40.09 | pkunkra | you can pull someone into a bathroom by flashing some ID at them? |
| 04:40.20 | Corydon76-dig | Ah, I wasn't there then |
| 04:40.25 | eppigy | pkunkra: i think there is some kind of consent somewhere |
| 04:41.33 | Corydon76-dig | but you're too late now. Peaches1984 has me for life, now. |
| 04:41.39 | pkunkra | nah, its gotta be the fancy ID. |
| 04:43.08 | keebler | Does anyone know if a PAP2T can run safely off a 12vdc powersupply? |
| 04:43.47 | eppigy | give it a try |
| 04:43.53 | eppigy | its not liek you have a complete set |
| 04:43.57 | eppigy | it sounds like |
| 04:44.19 | keebler | I have a 5vdcpower adapter. |
| 04:44.27 | eppigy | well try that oen first lol |
| 04:44.31 | keebler | .... |
| 04:44.39 | keebler | The unit is brand new. |
| 04:44.50 | eppigy | well did it not come with a power supply |
| 04:44.52 | ManxPower | Perhaps you should contact Linksys and find out. |
| 04:44.57 | eppigy | i mean jesus |
| 04:45.03 | keebler | I want to know if there is power regulation circuitry to allow over voltages. |
| 04:45.03 | eppigy | use the one that came in the box then |
| 04:45.26 | eppigy | let me consult my linksys schematics |
| 04:45.31 | coppice | keebler: the PAP2T wants 5V. kind of odd voltage for them to use, but that's what they take |
| 04:45.34 | keebler | Similar to how a WRT54G can use 5vdc upto 25vdc |
| 04:46.11 | mrsci | pap2t does use a 5v power supply |
| 04:46.49 | keebler | sigh.... I KNOW. Simple question. "Does anyone know if it can safely run off a 12vdc power supply." You answer yes or no. If you know the answer. |
| 04:47.12 | eppigy | why does it even matter |
| 04:47.20 | keebler | Why does it matter if it matters? |
| 04:47.30 | keebler | I just wanted to know. |
| 04:47.34 | keebler | Curiosity. |
| 04:47.38 | eppigy | pointless |
| 04:47.44 | eppigy | wasted time |
| 04:47.46 | eppigy | etc. |
| 04:48.06 | keebler | I didn't want to break open mine to bust out the volt meter and check the internal circuitry. |
| 04:48.10 | eppigy | if running on 12vdc improved performance |
| 04:48.13 | eppigy | i could see asking |
| 04:48.17 | keebler | Its a brand new unit. |
| 04:48.21 | eppigy | but i mean who cares |
| 04:48.35 | eppigy | you are not going to improve upon it |
| 04:48.41 | keebler | I'm looking at simplified means of powering multiple devices off a single 12vdc power source. Happy now? |
| 04:48.53 | eppigy | INCREDIBLE |
| 04:49.20 | criten | mmm |
| 04:49.34 | eppigy | i think that has already been done |
| 04:49.35 | criten | I'm lookin forward to receiving these pro recorded announcements for my IVR |
| 04:49.40 | eppigy | it is called a power strip |
| 04:49.54 | eppigy | you could use a UPS |
| 04:49.57 | eppigy | and stuff |
| 04:50.05 | keebler | Forget it. |
| 04:50.34 | drmessano | I think the heat would kill it |
| 04:50.41 | drmessano | Burn up the regulator |
| 04:50.50 | keebler | Thank you. |
| 04:50.56 | coppice | most small boxes can run from a much larger supply, but they tend to cook |
| 04:51.00 | drmessano | They get hot as shit anyway |
| 04:51.05 | drmessano | yeah |
| 04:51.34 | drmessano | Probably has an LM7805 in it.. Which could handle it with a much bigger heatsink |
| 04:51.55 | eppigy | can I run my car on a 12.65v batter |
| 04:51.59 | eppigy | battery |
| 04:52.01 | drmessano | Yes |
| 04:52.07 | eppigy | of fantastic |
| 04:52.12 | eppigy | i am tryign to find a way |
| 04:52.16 | drmessano | 14v actually |
| 04:52.16 | eppigy | to power multiple cars |
| 04:52.19 | eppigy | with one battery |
| 04:52.49 | NovceGuru | dude I think you're on to something |
| 04:52.51 | coppice | My guess would be they linear regulate the incoming 5V to 3.3V, and separately pump the 5V to the higher voltages they need |
| 04:52.53 | drmessano | Why is this a big deal? he wants to use ONE power source for a PAP2 and a WRT54G |
| 04:53.23 | keebler | You know, my question was not so naive to warrant this behavior of inane behavior. |
| 04:53.29 | keebler | hah |
| 04:53.31 | eppigy | why is using two a big deal? |
| 04:53.37 | drmessano | keebler: I agree |
| 04:53.37 | keebler | Maybe |
| 04:53.38 | keebler | space |
| 04:53.42 | keebler | Is an issue? |
| 04:53.48 | drmessano | Running off an external 12v supply |
| 04:53.48 | keebler | maybe source of power is an issue. |
| 04:53.53 | drmessano | Like a car |
| 04:53.54 | eppigy | where are you putting it? |
| 04:54.02 | NovceGuru | I'm to late in this conversation |
| 04:54.03 | eppigy | drmessano: that would be lol |
| 04:54.08 | drmessano | Why? |
| 04:54.11 | eppigy | NovceGuru: story of your life |
| 04:54.21 | obnauticus | drmessano |
| 04:54.26 | drmessano | I have a box with a WRT54G and a PAP2v2 that runs off 12V |
| 04:54.28 | eppigy | drmessano: hold on I am rebooting my car pbx |
| 04:54.29 | obnauticus | Do you know how to make a DIY RIB programming interface? |
| 04:54.36 | coppice | if you want to power a bunch of these things, why are you even using them? what's wrong with a multi-port box? |
| 04:54.47 | drmessano | eppigy: You fucking dumbass, like a portable WIFI setup with an ATA |
| 04:55.08 | eppigy | bro |
| 04:55.12 | keebler | Heh. |
| 04:55.14 | NovceGuru | im so confused |
| 04:55.17 | NovceGuru | goes to bed :( |
| 04:55.27 | drmessano | obnauticus: No, generally use the real deal |
| 04:55.27 | keebler | I'm glad I didn't have to say it. :/ I'm not that eloquent, |
| 04:55.29 | eppigy | that sounds really cool for geek factor |
| 04:55.37 | obnauticus | real deal, drmessano? |
| 04:55.39 | eppigy | but what practical application does it have |
| 04:55.39 | drmessano | or emergency field use |
| 04:55.42 | drmessano | or emergency field use |
| 04:55.44 | eppigy | oh jesus |
| 04:55.46 | drmessano | duh |
| 04:55.48 | obnauticus | :\ |
| 04:56.01 | eppigy | "emergency field use" |
| 04:56.07 | eppigy | or like hey this sounds really cool |
| 04:56.12 | eppigy | and i have liots of free time |
| 04:56.22 | coppice | is an emergency field for when your normal field is waterlogged, or something? |
| 04:56.25 | drmessano | I use mine as part of my ecomms setup.. Ham rig, PAP2, WRT54G, all run off 12v |
| 04:56.40 | eppigy | so it is a hobby thing |
| 04:56.43 | drmessano | No |
| 04:56.44 | eppigy | that is cool |
| 04:56.47 | eppigy | i can understand that |
| 04:56.51 | drmessano | Not a hobby |
| 04:56.56 | drmessano | and no you dont understand |
| 04:57.03 | obnauticus | what are you guys arguing about |
| 04:57.04 | keebler | To be specific, it is for an emergency field operations center. |
| 04:57.25 | eppigy | i am just doign what i always do |
| 04:57.35 | eppigy | and trying to get a rise out of anyone i can |
| 04:57.37 | keebler | I didn't think a simple question like that would lead to this. |
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| 04:57.50 | drmessano | eppigy: Getting on everyones ignore list and showing you have no sense? |
| 04:57.58 | drmessano | eppigy: Yes, done well.. go have another beer |
| 04:58.12 | eppigy | calm dowm bro |
| 04:58.18 | keebler | Is he still talking? |
| 04:58.21 | eppigy | you can calm down no |
| 04:58.22 | eppigy | w |
| 04:58.35 | eppigy | its all gravy |
| 04:58.42 | drmessano | eppigy: STFU and DIAF, bro |
| 04:58.47 | eppigy | D: |
| 04:58.50 | keebler | Heh. |
| 04:59.01 | drmessano | keebler: Its cool.. Shame the PAP2v2 was the only one that ran off 12v natively |
| 04:59.20 | keebler | drmessano: Yeah, also a shame I just purchased 8 Pap2t-na.s |
| 04:59.27 | drmessano | heh |
| 04:59.36 | drmessano | the RTP300 runs off 12v too |
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| 04:59.45 | drmessano | and will probably replace my PAP2 |
| 05:00.10 | keebler | I could send them back, but I don't really feel like RMA'ing good products. What is your 12vdc solution? |
| 05:00.27 | keebler | I was trying to avoid using a power inverter. |
| 05:00.55 | mrsci | keebler, why not use a dc-dc power supply |
| 05:00.57 | drmessano | PAP2v2 or RTP300.. havent tried running a 5VDC device yet |
| 05:01.00 | TrentCreek | yeah |
| 05:01.06 | TrentCreek | DC-DC would be great |
| 05:01.06 | drmessano | Ugh |
| 05:01.16 | keebler | mrsci: I would if I had one. I was trying to find a solution with the supplies i have now. |
| 05:01.34 | TrentCreek | keebler: then go straught battery power |
| 05:01.40 | drmessano | See if you can find something online about the PAP2 power source |
| 05:01.53 | drmessano | If its an LM7805, it will work from 2v to 17v I believe |
| 05:01.57 | drmessano | Just need cooling |
| 05:01.57 | TrentCreek | and have the batteries connected to a charge controller |
| 05:02.01 | keebler | drmessano: I have been googling for the last 30 minutes. :) |
| 05:02.20 | keebler | I have one out of warranty one I can take apart i suppose. |
| 05:02.34 | keebler | But really, I don't want to increase surface space. |
| 05:02.40 | drmessano | http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.electronics.repair/2008-04/msg00031.html |
| 05:02.46 | drmessano | 5VDC only, it seems |
| 05:02.53 | TrentCreek | keebler: why take it apart? but the inverter off and connect them to a battery |
| 05:03.10 | TrentCreek | *cut |
| 05:03.23 | keebler | TrentCreek: I meant, take apart the PAP2 to see what chips it uses. |
| 05:03.24 | drmessano | a 5v battery? |
| 05:03.29 | TrentCreek | 12 volt |
| 05:03.32 | drmessano | wont work |
| 05:03.48 | TrentCreek | for a 12 volt item? |
| 05:03.56 | drmessano | Its not a 12v item, mr genius man |
| 05:03.58 | keebler | Well atleast it has a protection circuit for over voltage. |
| 05:04.01 | drmessano | Youre late in the convo |
| 05:04.03 | drmessano | Go back to bed |
| 05:04.36 | TrentCreek | nah/..just gonna lynch me some honkeys |
| 05:04.51 | TrentCreek | then he should go with DC-DC |
| 05:04.52 | drmessano | Ah, we're back to that again |
| 05:05.03 | eppigy | TrentCreek: it is a new day |
| 05:05.08 | eppigy | the predient is black bro |
| 05:05.10 | TrentCreek | yes it is |
| 05:05.11 | eppigy | president |
| 05:05.26 | TrentCreek | oh..so says the "media" |
| 05:05.31 | eppigy | we can walk hand in hand |
| 05:05.37 | eppigy | TrentCreek: true |
| 05:05.38 | keebler | I could take apart a "small" selectable power inverter I suppose. |
| 05:05.41 | drmessano | Oh, here we go with "quotes" |
| 05:05.53 | eppigy | /quotes/ |
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| 05:06.02 | TrentCreek | oops... /media/ |
| 05:06.08 | drmessano | I wonder what the "republicans" think of "a" black "president" |
| 05:06.36 | TrentCreek | i guess they can tell you when we get oen |
| 05:06.36 | drmessano | "seems" a bit fishy "to" me |
| 05:06.48 | eppigy | I wonder what the republicans "think" of a "black president |
| 05:06.51 | eppigy | fuck |
| 05:07.24 | drmessano | TrentCreek: Hes not our president anyway.. he wasnt born here.. didnt you real your conspiracy theorist right wing propaganda quarterly? |
| 05:07.33 | drmessano | read* |
| 05:07.45 | TrentCreek | no |
| 05:08.04 | keebler | There needs to a place, where people can gather around online at any time, and ask technical questions with other people of similar interest. |
| 05:08.07 | TrentCreek | but he still yet has to proove he is qualiified |
| 05:08.10 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Actually McCain was the one not born in the US |
| 05:08.10 | drmessano | His birth certificate was forged, bro.. He wasn't born in Hawaii. It's all a sham |
| 05:08.12 | keebler | We should name it something like Relay Chat. |
| 05:08.19 | keebler | Or, Internet Relay Chat. |
| 05:08.24 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Dodged that bullet! |
| 05:08.31 | drmessano | keebler: Thats XMPP.. IRC is for trolling |
| 05:08.43 | keebler | drmessano: Apparently. :/ |
| 05:08.44 | eppigy | truth |
| 05:08.58 | keebler | drmessano: I think I'll try the BBS. :) |
| 05:09.04 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: He's also not black or white.. According to TroutCreek over there, he's a mullet |
| 05:09.17 | drmessano | We elected a fish |
| 05:09.19 | drmessano | :( |
| 05:09.44 | drmessano | Wasnt TroutCreek a show on the WB or something |
| 05:09.45 | TrentCreek | here let me spell it for you....and slowly so you can read |
| 05:09.52 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: A step up from amoeba-brain :) |
| 05:10.48 | drmessano | TroutCreek, thank you.. I see nothing |
| 05:10.57 | TrentCreek | M U L A T T O - |
| 05:11.07 | drmessano | Took you that long to google it? |
| 05:11.15 | TrentCreek | Spanish mulato, from mulo mule, from Latin mulus |
| 05:11.19 | drmessano | or having to keep hitting the caps lock on and off? |
| 05:11.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Off-white? |
| 05:11.31 | TrentCreek | a person of mixed white and black ancestry |
| 05:11.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Mother-of-pearl? |
| 05:11.54 | eppigy | He is just a puppet |
| 05:11.57 | drmessano | TroutCreek wants us to think he's educated |
| 05:11.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ecru? |
| 05:11.58 | eppigy | the same as the others |
| 05:11.58 | TrentCreek | more like the other way aroun ;-) |
| 05:12.04 | eppigy | it doesnt matter |
| 05:12.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Beige? |
| 05:12.21 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: I think TroutCreek hit the nail on the head |
| 05:13.05 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: I think TrentCreek hit the nail WITH his head :) |
| 05:13.24 | TrentCreek | why yes..i do have a hard head |
| 05:13.49 | [TK]D-Fender | TrentCreek: Not don't go exsanguinating all over the place! Sop up that mess! |
| 05:13.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Now* |
| 05:14.26 | TrentCreek | "President" Obamay..cleanup on isle 4 |
| 05:14.35 | eppigy | lol |
| 05:15.15 | drmessano | SPELL SOMETHING CORRECTLY YOU IGNORANT SOB |
| 05:15.24 | drmessano | I just.... cant.... deal.. |
| 05:15.56 | drmessano | I know its hard typing with fins, TroutMaster, but come on |
| 05:15.58 | TrentCreek | okay dr-assno |
| 05:16.38 | obnauticus | LOL |
| 05:16.42 | eppigy | man |
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| 05:19.04 | drmessano | pointless |
| 05:19.16 | drmessano | cant even troll me correctly |
| 05:19.39 | drmessano | You are a complete and total faleyour |
| 05:19.58 | ScribbleJ | Aw hell. I wanted my LInksys PAP2T to arrive today |
| 05:19.59 | keebler | drmessano: Looking at setting up an 8dbi omni on a 15 foot mast. How much, if any, signal loss can I expect? |
| 05:20.04 | ScribbleJ | And it DID and I MISSED IT! |
| 05:20.26 | ScribbleJ | I don't think the deliveryguy even knocked. |
| 05:20.29 | keebler | between the router and the antenna. |
| 05:20.43 | keebler | ScribbleJ: DIdn't leave it on the pourch? |
| 05:20.48 | keebler | porch |
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| 05:21.27 | ScribbleJ | keebler, I thought he would, but apparently Amazon shipped it with a requirement to sign on delivery. :( |
| 05:21.43 | ScribbleJ | So now I have to go out to the post office to get it myself tomorrow. Bother. |
| 05:21.50 | drmessano | keebler: depends on the cable and connectors |
| 05:21.59 | keebler | Hmm. |
| 05:22.03 | drmessano | and length of the cable exactly |
| 05:22.13 | drmessano | Theres places you can go online for figuring out cable less |
| 05:22.15 | drmessano | loss |
| 05:22.17 | keebler | Well, kinda getto, but I've got 3-7ft lenghts. |
| 05:22.21 | keebler | SMA-SMA |
| 05:22.21 | drmessano | .... |
| 05:22.51 | drmessano | Well, need to do a loss calculation on the cable itself |
| 05:23.13 | keebler | "Again", Going with supplies I have on hand. Dropped too much money today, and they didn't even have any 15ft lengths of cable. |
| 05:23.29 | keebler | I hate Fry's Electronics. |
| 05:23.34 | ScribbleJ | Hhahaah |
| 05:23.55 | TrentCreek | Dont get the long cables |
| 05:23.56 | ScribbleJ | I live ten minutes from a Fry's in one direction and a Tiger Direct outlet in the other. |
| 05:24.06 | TrentCreek | download and install DD-WRT |
| 05:24.09 | sipy | I'm going to Fry Electronics today. |
| 05:24.10 | ScribbleJ | Whenever I leave the house, I am screwed going either way. |
| 05:24.11 | sipy | haha |
| 05:24.20 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:24.28 | keebler | hah |
| 05:24.29 | drmessano | DD-WRT makes up for cable loss? |
| 05:24.37 | drmessano | NO WAI |
| 05:24.37 | keebler | Yeah... wtf? |
| 05:25.00 | drmessano | keebler: Check the cables.. should have a designator on them |
| 05:25.08 | drmessano | Like RG-174. etc |
| 05:25.10 | TrentCreek | yes...because you can make the Router into a client so the router is now like a wireless card |
| 05:25.20 | keebler | drmessano: Going out to the truck to get them. brb |
| 05:25.23 | drmessano | Which has nothing to do with cable loss |
| 05:25.26 | drmessano | ok |
| 05:25.29 | TrentCreek | sure it does |
| 05:25.34 | drmessano | WTF |
| 05:25.38 | drmessano | Are you an idiot? |
| 05:25.43 | drmessano | How? |
| 05:25.45 | TrentCreek | no, but YOu are |
| 05:25.46 | drmessano | Im all ears |
| 05:25.54 | drmessano | Tell me how that makes up for cable loss |
| 05:26.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Go Van Gogh! |
| 05:26.07 | ScribbleJ | I too am curious to hear this. I've used OpenWRT for years. |
| 05:26.08 | TrentCreek | you move the router now... |
| 05:26.20 | TrentCreek | along with longer cat5 |
| 05:26.47 | drmessano | ... |
| 05:26.47 | eppigy | purchasing a pap and WRT54G breaks the bank; welcome to poverty |
| 05:26.48 | TrentCreek | so you no longer need a long ass antenna cable |
| 05:27.11 | drmessano | Except if you cant mast mount the WRT54G or dont want to |
| 05:27.25 | drmessano | Which he doesnt |
| 05:27.26 | TrentCreek | you put it in a weather proof box |
| 05:27.32 | sipy | tape it to the mast |
| 05:27.38 | drmessano | DUCT TAPE |
| 05:27.48 | coppice | why would anyone want to use a pap2 and a wrt54g? what's wrong with the integrated boxes? |
| 05:27.57 | eppigy | coppice: poverty |
| 05:28.03 | TrentCreek | all that is a lot cheaper and better signal than a antenna cable |
| 05:28.06 | drmessano | coppice: WRT54G can be used as a client |
| 05:28.15 | drmessano | TrentCreek: Not cheaper |
| 05:28.38 | TrentCreek | yes..low loss antenna cable is very expensive |
| 05:28.47 | drmessano | Not really |
| 05:28.55 | drmessano | Not if you know where to get it |
| 05:29.25 | TrentCreek | well 5 finger dicount..sure |
| 05:29.29 | drmessano | No |
| 05:29.45 | drmessano | Im talking about BUYING |
| 05:29.53 | drmessano | Like, moneypay kind |
| 05:30.04 | coppice | low loss antenna cable doesn't bend very well. its a pain |
| 05:30.31 | ScribbleJ | I wish I knew more about antennas. They are a big mystery to me. |
| 05:30.39 | drmessano | coppice: Just use "flexible" waveguide.. heh |
| 05:30.46 | TrentCreek | there are place where you can get 100ft of CAT5 for $20, plus extenion cord...$10? |
| 05:30.52 | drmessano | HAHAHAHHA |
| 05:31.17 | drmessano | 100ft of CAT5 for $20.. Wow.. thats some great CAT5.. bet it can withstand the weather too |
| 05:31.20 | drmessano | Wait, no |
| 05:31.31 | ScribbleJ | Whatever. |
| 05:31.40 | ScribbleJ | If you want a big discount, you gotta' buy CAT3. |
| 05:31.45 | TrentCreek | yeah..i bough several of them..from WHOLSALE place |
| 05:31.55 | eppigy | TrentCreek: keep in mind this is for an "emergency" rig |
| 05:32.03 | ScribbleJ | I can get you some nice arcnet cabling. Cheap. |
| 05:32.05 | TrentCreek | I still hace them after 8 years...yeah....they are cheap |
| 05:32.09 | eppigy | in the event they leave their bedroom for five minutes |
| 05:32.12 | ScribbleJ | Terminator'sll cost you extra. |
| 05:32.13 | sipy | Cheapest is to buy single strand cables and twist it yourself |
| 05:32.27 | drmessano | sipy: Shut up, TroutCreek will recommend that next |
| 05:32.37 | sipy | then put it in a shrink tube |
| 05:32.49 | drmessano | Fill it with vaseline to keep the water out |
| 05:33.01 | TrentCreek | sipy: that's a good idea |
| 05:33.06 | drmessano | lol |
| 05:33.09 | sipy | then take a lighter to it. It will tighen right up |
| 05:33.22 | sipy | haha |
| 05:33.45 | drmessano | TroutCreek: Last I saw in #ddwrt, you could barely get the shit working.. now you're an expert on DD-WRT too? |
| 05:33.46 | ScribbleJ | You can save a lot that way. YOu don't need all those strands, you really only use four. |
| 05:33.54 | keebler | okay |
| 05:33.58 | drmessano | TroutCreek: Stay at a holiday inn express? |
| 05:34.21 | drmessano | You're adorable |
| 05:34.33 | TrentCreek | yes, I knew you could see my extraordanary genius |
| 05:34.35 | drmessano | pinches TroutCrack's cheeks |
| 05:34.47 | drmessano | "extraordanary genius" indeed |
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| 05:35.36 | ScribbleJ | You know, this channel is a super-valuable resource. |
| 05:35.54 | ScribbleJ | For sure, I mean, next time I lose my cellphone, there's a whole channel of people who can make free calls to dial my number and make it ring. |
| 05:35.59 | eppigy | ScribbleJ: ur super valueable |
| 05:36.07 | ScribbleJ | Hah... |
| 05:36.18 | ScribbleJ | I'm just kidding around. It sounded funny to me. |
| 05:36.20 | ScribbleJ | I suck at humor. |
| 05:36.29 | drmessano | ScribbleJ: You are extraordanariny variable to us too |
| 05:36.42 | drmessano | ScribbleJ: TroutCrack told me so |
| 05:36.52 | ScribbleJ | drmessano, then you know it is true. |
| 05:37.08 | drmessano | ScribbleJ: Yes, we loev u, dud |
| 05:37.22 | drmessano | U R or bass |
| 05:37.28 | drmessano | *our |
| 05:37.32 | rob0 | No kidding, you suck at humor. My puppy just killed himself when he read that!! |
| 05:37.43 | ScribbleJ | haha, sheesh. |
| 05:37.43 | drmessano | :`( |
| 05:37.59 | drmessano | You made my tragic clown smile |
| 05:38.03 | ScribbleJ | Humor's not the only thing I suck at; you should see my C code. |
| 05:38.07 | rob0 | Tell a joke, slaughter an innocent puppy. |
| 05:38.30 | drmessano | ScribbleJ: Oh, then we talked to your wife.. and she was like.. "You know what *I* hate" |
| 05:38.38 | ScribbleJ | hahahahaslkjdalnf |
| 05:38.39 | rob0 | Now WTF am I going to do with a dead dog? |
| 05:38.40 | drmessano | Which is gonna suck if youre not married |
| 05:38.55 | rob0 | googles for nearby viet namese grocers |
| 05:38.57 | drmessano | rob0: www.vietnamesecooking.com |
| 05:39.08 | drmessano | rob0: www.vietnamesecooking.com/dog |
| 05:39.10 | drmessano | Sorry |
| 05:39.15 | sipy | mount him on the box Trout is going to mount on the mast |
| 05:39.24 | drmessano | sipy: WIN |
| 05:39.29 | ScribbleJ | Yeah |
| 05:39.42 | ScribbleJ | I bet he could get DD-wrt running on it. |
| 05:39.44 | ScribbleJ | The dog I mean. |
| 05:39.48 | drmessano | HAHAH |
| 05:40.12 | drmessano | <TroutCrack> Your Retreded |
| 05:40.16 | drmessano | Yes, yes I am |
| 05:40.31 | ScribbleJ | You're retreaded? |
| 05:40.49 | drmessano | ScribbleJ: I think he meant to say I was retired |
| 05:40.53 | drmessano | I dunno |
| 05:41.07 | ScribbleJ | I do think the whole thing is wearing a bit thin... |
| 05:41.10 | drmessano | I tried using ROT13, ROT12, and RETARD7 and cant work it out |
| 05:41.13 | TrentCreek | |
| 05:41.25 | Micc | Whats the best 4 port PRI card I can get that works with asterisk? |
| 05:41.41 | Micc | It'll be going in a supermicro machine. |
| 05:41.44 | eppigy | te-420 |
| 05:41.50 | Micc | pci-e port. |
| 05:41.51 | sipy | mast bus or pci bus? |
| 05:42.27 | rob0 | Supermicro, isn't that an oxymoron? |
| 05:42.43 | eppigy | te-420 is pci-e |
| 05:43.01 | Micc | what about this? Wildcard TE405P 4-Port ISDN PRI Card |
| 05:43.23 | TrentCreek | rob0: no...Super: : exhibiting the characteristics of its type to an extreme or excessive degree |
| 05:43.39 | eppigy | Micc: well that is not pci-e |
| 05:43.44 | carrar | I use Digium cards |
| 05:43.51 | carrar | flawless so far |
| 05:43.57 | eppigy | carrar: same |
| 05:45.35 | Micc | yeah. they are expensive though. but I've used digium cards in the two systems I setup and they've never had any problems. |
| 05:45.48 | eppigy | you get what you pay for |
| 05:47.52 | thehar | ping |
| 05:47.57 | russellb | pong! |
| 05:48.01 | thehar | russellb: ! |
| 05:48.08 | russellb | thehar: !! |
| 05:48.14 | eppigy | 8[] |
| 05:48.17 | thehar | russellb: how's brussels? |
| 05:48.28 | russellb | great so far ... jetlag is lame, though. |
| 05:48.37 | thehar | yes yes it is |
| 05:49.21 | thehar | tanquaray and tonic? i'm enjoying one. i hear it's good for jetlag ;) |
| 05:49.41 | russellb | heh, no way. belgian beer. |
| 05:49.46 | thehar | zomg yes |
| 05:49.53 | thehar | send to XMission pls. k thx. |
| 05:50.06 | russellb | my headache says "no more plzkthx" |
| 05:50.22 | thehar | your headache lies |
| 05:50.36 | russellb | i know! |
| 05:50.53 | thehar | your blog needs love, russell. |
| 05:51.02 | russellb | yeah. |
| 05:51.18 | thehar | how am i to stalk you if you don't update your blog with love? |
| 05:51.24 | russellb | good question |
| 05:51.28 | russellb | twitter/facebook ? |
| 05:51.35 | thehar | oh yes. social networking. |
| 05:52.02 | ScribbleJ | I have a friend who insists on telling the IRC channel every time he poops. That's the kind of guy who needs twitter. |
| 05:52.21 | thehar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:52.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ScribbleJ: I would have said "medication" |
| 05:52.36 | ScribbleJ | Hahaha, okay, that too. |
| 05:52.42 | SwK | ScribbleJ, i just farted |
| 05:52.51 | thehar | It's not okay to sniff your own flatulence. |
| 05:52.52 | ScribbleJ | SwK, rob, is that you? |
| 05:52.55 | SwK | haha |
| 05:52.55 | SwK | no |
| 05:52.59 | ScribbleJ | heh |
| 05:53.00 | eppigy | jenked |
| 05:53.13 | thehar | russellb: i'm sad i missed ITEXPO east.. was it goods? |
| 05:53.39 | russellb | shrugs |
| 05:53.40 | russellb | i wasn't there |
| 05:53.43 | thehar | ah. |
| 05:53.47 | carrar | Where are the pics of the BOOTH BABES |
| 05:54.08 | thehar | is itexpo west worth my money? it's in LA this year.. which i approve of. |
| 05:54.21 | russellb | heh, asterisk is hot enough to not need booth babes :-) |
| 05:54.22 | thehar | s/my/my work's/ |
| 05:54.38 | thehar | i'm an asterisk booth babe. |
| 05:54.43 | russellb | i have never been to an itexpo |
| 05:54.53 | SwK | ummm i thought asterisk had booth dudes |
| 05:55.16 | thehar | ah |
| 05:55.26 | thehar | i hear it's the place to be. |
| 05:55.30 | thehar | for conferences. |
| 05:55.36 | thehar | i was not impressed with NXTcomm =\ |
| 05:55.58 | coppice | SwK: wearing skimpy outfits? |
| 05:56.09 | thehar | coppice: wearing jockstraps |
| 05:56.09 | [TK]D-Fender | falls on the floor convulsing |
| 05:56.33 | carrar | haha |
| 05:56.37 | carrar | PICS!! |
| 05:56.39 | SwK | haah |
| 05:56.40 | carrar | err no |
| 05:56.51 | thehar | russellb in a jockstrap. |
| 05:58.05 | russellb | O.O |
| 05:58.13 | coppice | actually, the last time I spoke to the hot looking babe who appeared to be present only for visual effect, she turned out to be the really knowledgeable one |
| 05:59.33 | thehar | metaswitch had hot babes @ NXTcomm.. too bad i'm not into chicks |
| 06:00.30 | ScribbleJ | My company hires booth babes and brings a Wii to their booth, specifically, my Wii, the sales manager keeps borrowing it. But I don't mind 'cause I get to imagine real babes playing with it. |
| 06:00.39 | ScribbleJ | It's almost like being near a girl, kinda'. |
| 06:00.51 | thehar | I work out. |
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| 06:01.08 | rob0 | Another puppy threatens to take his own lief! |
| 06:01.13 | rob0 | life too! |
| 06:01.16 | ScribbleJ | Hahah |
| 06:01.28 | ScribbleJ | Only the pathetic part was a joke, the borrowing the Wii part is true. |
| 06:01.37 | ScribbleJ | OKay, I guess it was all pathetic. |
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| 06:03.20 | pkunkra | that kinda sucks if they keep borrowing your wii. |
| 06:03.27 | thehar | you should say no |
| 06:03.36 | pkunkra | you should demand you be allowed to play with the booth bunnies |
| 06:03.46 | ScribbleJ | Yeees.... I like this idea. |
| 06:03.52 | ScribbleJ | Next time I will bargain. |
| 06:04.12 | pkunkra | good! |
| 06:04.24 | ScribbleJ | I can work my way up to actually going on the road. I'll start simple. "Yes, you can borrow my Wii... but I want a photo of the booth babe with my Wiimote in her cleavage." |
| 06:04.41 | pkunkra | totally not fair for a manager to take a nerd's wii to give them to booth bunnies to play with. |
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| 06:04.56 | thehar | wait. they travel WITH your PERSONAL wii? |
| 06:05.13 | pkunkra | yep, he's getting screwed by his manager. |
| 06:05.21 | SwK | I hope you send them an invoice for wii rental time |
| 06:05.21 | thehar | in the ass without lube |
| 06:05.29 | pkunkra | i meant, the booth bunnies won't play with the wii that much. |
| 06:05.35 | ScribbleJ | I never play the Wii anymore, so I don't mind. For a while they were also borrowing my large monitor to bring to play it on and loaning me a little 17" square thing. That I minded. |
| 06:05.35 | pkunkra | the nerd needs it the most. |
| 06:05.38 | ScribbleJ | So it stopped. Heh |
| 06:05.41 | SwK | I would probably let booth bunnies play with my wii tho |
| 06:06.00 | thehar | wii just became a metaphor |
| 06:06.10 | pkunkra | SwK, as long as you get to play with the bunnies, that would be fine. |
| 06:06.24 | SwK | pkunkra, i wasnt talking about my nintendo wii |
| 06:06.38 | pkunkra | oh |
| 06:06.45 | pkunkra | so that's your name for it, eh? |
| 06:06.46 | ScribbleJ | I'm just disappointed in them; I always send along Guitar Hero and they never play it. It's always Tiger Woods or that stupid Bowling game. Salespeople! bah. |
| 06:06.54 | rob0 | What is a meta for? |
| 06:07.04 | pkunkra | "mama, i have to go wii.." |
| 06:07.08 | ScribbleJ | rob0, I think /my/ puppy just died. |
| 06:07.28 | pkunkra | i like the tanks game |
| 06:07.28 | rob0 | Ruff night for the canine crowd. |
| 06:07.30 | ScribbleJ | pkunkra, did you hear about that lady who killed herself trying to get her kid a Wii? |
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| 06:07.45 | ScribbleJ | pkunkra, no kidding, on a radio contest. |
| 06:07.46 | pkunkra | eh? no, i didn't. |
| 06:07.50 | prxtien | hey all, whats the best way for me to collect user input into a variabl |
| 06:07.57 | thehar | life is hard. |
| 06:08.06 | SwK | scooby2, the one that drunk herself todeath |
| 06:08.21 | prxtien | i would like to be able to input the temperature i want my air conditioner when i get home |
| 06:08.29 | SwK | err ScribbleJ the one that drank herself to death? |
| 06:08.40 | ScribbleJ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDND <- yes, that one, SwK |
| 06:08.50 | ScribbleJ | That's what brought it to mind, with the Wii jokes. |
| 06:10.38 | ScribbleJ | If I'm going to die in a humiliating way I'd at least like it to involve kinky sex, maybe like Michael Hutchens... not just from drinking too much water on a radio show. |
| 06:11.05 | carrar | face down in some dudes pool perhaps? |
| 06:11.16 | carrar | (whatever that song is) |
| 06:11.49 | SwK | hah |
| 06:12.20 | carrar | "Death by Misadventure" |
| 06:12.22 | carrar | thats it |
| 06:12.25 | SwK | yeah |
| 06:13.13 | coppice | Miss Adventure sounds like the perfect name for someone into lethal kinky sex |
| 06:13.36 | thehar | french onion dip is too addicting |
| 06:19.03 | JT | addictive |
| 06:20.45 | thehar | cock |
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| 06:24.54 | prxtien | pbx.c:2055 pbx_find_extension: Maximum PBX stack exceeded |
| 06:24.59 | prxtien | any idea why i should recieve this |
| 06:25.40 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: Maybe you could show us exactly where you see it |
| 06:26.06 | prxtien | on my console |
| 06:26.07 | prxtien | [Feb 7 16:45:08] WARNING[10244]: pbx.c:2055 pbx_find_extension: Maximum PBX stack exceeded |
| 06:26.17 | prxtien | seens to relate to adding more extensions in extensions.conf |
| 06:26.34 | thehar | there once was a bug about more than so many contexts |
| 06:26.37 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: So on dialplan load? |
| 06:26.41 | prxtien | yeah mate |
| 06:26.46 | prxtien | im using 1.6.0.3 btw |
| 06:26.49 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: Just how big IS your setup? |
| 06:26.59 | thehar | stares at [TK]D-Fender |
| 06:27.01 | thehar | wow |
| 06:27.10 | prxtien | 629 lines of dialplan |
| 06:27.43 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: thats it? |
| 06:27.51 | [TK]D-Fender | hands thehar a spoon |
| 06:27.53 | prxtien | yeah mate |
| 06:28.08 | prxtien | just a simple home setup |
| 06:28.15 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: Something is wrong... pastebin the whoe thing... I have a suspicion... |
| 06:28.28 | thehar | core set verbose 10million |
| 06:28.52 | prxtien | lol okay 1 sec |
| 06:28.54 | thehar | I apologize. I've been drinking lots of gin. I shall retire to couch. |
| 06:28.54 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: Only asking for your dialplan. |
| 06:30.50 | prxtien | http://pastebin.com/m3540974c |
| 06:30.59 | prxtien | this is my first dialplan so go eas on me ;) |
| 06:32.55 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: Very cool.. I was using heyu2 to maake me coffe once upon a time with * :) |
| 06:33.03 | prxtien | haha |
| 06:33.11 | prxtien | just a bit of fun mate |
| 06:33.12 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: And I see nothing wrong there, now CLI output at verbose 10 please |
| 06:34.01 | prxtien | http://pastebin.com/m78a0fd0b |
| 06:34.02 | prxtien | thanks |
| 06:34.11 | thehar | the problem with automating coffee is you need a coffee maker with a grinder built in. |
| 06:35.11 | thehar | ext 87 with 80 priorities? huh |
| 06:35.50 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: I don't see why it should fail... but do try checking 1.6.0.5 for updates |
| 06:36.28 | prxtien | okay ill try it now |
| 06:36.44 | prxtien | exten 87 is the voice recognition module for the home automation |
| 06:36.51 | prxtien | so my girlfriend doesnt have to remember all the extensions |
| 06:37.54 | prxtien | ill try 1.6.0.5, there is also an option in pbx.c that specifies 128 as maximum extensions, i might also try increasing that to 256 if 1.6.0.5 doesnt work |
| 06:37.55 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: We've got to talk later... this is part of what I was working on myself :) |
| 06:38.23 | prxtien | sure mate, im 90% of the way through it, just trying to get the air conditioner working today |
| 06:39.34 | thehar | Night lads. |
| 06:39.38 | thehar | Bed times. |
| 06:42.59 | dan__t | Alright, well, this phone wins. |
| 06:43.02 | dan__t | HTC Diamond |
| 06:43.04 | dan__t | If anyone cared |
| 06:43.14 | dan__t | Windows Mobile 6 is still a piece of trash, however. |
| 06:43.23 | prxtien | im liking the look of the htc touch hd |
| 06:43.25 | dan__t | Do they not get that a UI should have as little fingerstrokes as possible? |
| 06:43.32 | prxtien | the htc diamond is a sweeet phone, only problem is the battery life |
| 06:43.38 | dan__t | yea that's a drag |
| 06:43.49 | dan__t | i turned data off except to check email every 30 mins, I can make it last about 9 hours now |
| 06:44.04 | prxtien | im sold on windows mobile over any other os right now because of openvpn support |
| 06:44.33 | coppice | they give it an annoying battery life to divert your attention from how much wince 6 sucks |
| 06:44.35 | prxtien | the iphone does everything i want, including roaming onto wifi to use sip but... no tap/tun driver for open vpn |
| 06:44.49 | dan__t | word |
| 06:44.56 | dan__t | what about the tunnelbrick guys or whatever |
| 06:45.39 | [TK]D-Fender | coppice: they twisted things... When people asked to make WM suck less... they didn't have "reduced battery life" in mind :) |
| 06:46.43 | coppice | most wince phones are completely hiding wince from view now. since they did that their success seems to have increased quite a bit |
| 06:47.13 | [TK]D-Fender | rather OT general linux question : Got a problem where rsync skips a bunch of files, and I'd like to see why |
| 06:47.39 | dan__t | run it with --progress --stats |
| 06:48.01 | dan__t | --verbose helps, too. |
| 06:48.22 | dan__t | -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv if you're really pissed off. |
| 06:48.52 | rob0 | could be the files were open and locked, could be a lot of things really |
| 06:49.03 | dan__t | yeah, best to start with why rsync tells you, though. |
| 06:49.08 | dan__t | there's 3248239483 different reasons. |
| 06:49.09 | rob0 | permissions ... |
| 06:49.19 | dan__t | ok, 3248239482 things |
| 06:49.41 | dan__t | rob0, cheers to postfix. |
| 06:49.42 | dan__t | hoooray. |
| 06:50.06 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: Ok, didn't seem to think anything was wrong. |
| 06:50.42 | [TK]D-Fender | :| |
| 06:52.19 | dan__t | can't see anything? |
| 06:52.31 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: after its done I seem to be missing 12 files..... |
| 06:52.41 | dan__t | pastebin the final bits? |
| 06:54.28 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: http://pastebin.com/m5a34f04 |
| 06:54.29 | rob0 | find /path/on/each/end > file and then diff the files too, so you know which files are missing |
| 06:55.10 | dan__t | some files may have disappeared |
| 06:55.13 | dan__t | spools etc etc |
| 06:55.35 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: I figured the "--delete" was supposed to take care of that |
| 06:56.03 | dan__t | If you copied a ton of files, some of which were temp files used by some other application.. |
| 06:56.10 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: And shouldn't have anything funky going on, its only samba shared files in there |
| 06:56.24 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: But it wouldn't report that it skipped them? |
| 06:56.41 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: I can COMPLETELY accept if files were locked, inuse, etc.... |
| 06:56.46 | dan__t | Yea it would. |
| 06:56.53 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: its that it DOESN'T even make mention of anything |
| 06:57.00 | dan__t | yeah |
| 06:57.03 | dan__t | beats me. |
| 06:57.15 | [TK]D-Fender | dan__t: dangnammit... |
| 06:57.19 | dan__t | hah |
| 06:57.32 | dan__t | rob0 had a good idea, do that one. |
| 06:57.41 | [TK]D-Fender | I'm following on that now. |
| 06:59.52 | prxtien | whats the best way to capture user input to a variable? |
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| 07:02.07 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: depnds on what validation, etc |
| 07:02.15 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: in general "core show application read" |
| 07:02.27 | *** join/#asterisk [intra]lanman (n=Raymond@freeswitch/developer/intralanman) |
| 07:02.45 | prxtien | i want to dial in to my system, and enter temperature and fan speed for my air conditioner |
| 07:03.42 | *** join/#asterisk mrspinx (n=shawn@clamwin/tester/mrspinx) |
| 07:05.28 | [TK]D-Fender | prxtien: Read is probably your best bet |
| 07:05.53 | prxtien | okay thanks mate |
| 07:10.41 | [TK]D-Fender | ok, well I'm about done for the night. Thanks all |
| 07:14.58 | mrspinx | Hi i'm setting up asterisk / switchvox is there an option in the web gui to enable sip? I'm having trouble connecting to port 5060 I tested the port netcat it's not open. (443 the gui is) |
| 07:16.00 | *** join/#asterisk Sargun (n=Sargun@atarack/Staff/Sargun) |
| 07:18.19 | sipy | . |
| 07:18.57 | mrspinx | also im running switchvox in a bridged vm |
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| 07:22.59 | mrspinx | hi mick |
| 07:23.24 | mick_laptop | small internet isn't it |
| 07:23.30 | mick_laptop | :) |
| 07:26.04 | adante | hi i'm running asterisk 1.6.0.5 and trying to use the 2.0 gui - installed it as per the install-related |
| 07:27.09 | adante | the login page shows up fine but when i try to login, the first time it asked to restart asterisk and displayed a lot of stuff quickly that i missed, now when i login it keeps rapidly flickering between 2 pages, 'Home' and 'System Status' |
| 07:27.27 | adante | there's a loading dialogue that also alternates between "Loading..." and "Verifying Dialplan Contexts needed for GUI" |
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| 07:51.55 | adante | hmm and trying with 1.6.1-rc1 and the gui doesn't seem to work at all? |
| 07:52.35 | xacatecas | who needs a gui anyway? |
| 07:53.10 | *** join/#asterisk MaliutaLap (n=biteme@kiev.lusan.id.au) |
| 07:53.28 | xacatecas | ok ok, i guess a gui can be handy. |
| 07:57.04 | kaldemar | #asterisk-gui can be handy, too. |
| 07:57.53 | kaldemar | adante: ^ have you asked in that channel? people here don't usually use GUI's. |
| 07:58.10 | MaliutaLap | kaldemar: you mean bash+vim isn't a gui? |
| 07:59.10 | drmessano | I ACCIDENTALLY MY WHOLE PBX |
| 07:59.38 | *** part/#asterisk CrazyTux (n=brandon@ip68-111-67-4.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 07:59.55 | dan__t | what |
| 08:00.15 | kaldemar | MaliutaLap: yes. :) |
| 08:00.21 | ScribbleJ | jaytee, you around? |
| 08:00.58 | obnauticus | drmessano do you have the downcat |
| 08:01.44 | drmessano | downcat? |
| 08:02.19 | carrar | downcat syndrome? |
| 08:02.43 | carrar | i think thats when your cat seems down all the time |
| 08:02.55 | carrar | doesn't chase lasers |
| 08:03.42 | ScribbleJ | Classic Monty Python... your cat badly needs to be confused. |
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| 08:06.01 | coppice | downcat? is that the animal you get the duvet filling from? |
| 08:07.17 | obnauticus | >:| |
| 08:07.25 | obnauticus | the opposite version of updog |
| 08:07.30 | obnauticus | jazzy version if you will |
| 08:08.21 | xacatecas | well said MaliutaLap |
| 08:08.37 | xacatecas | "real" GUIs imho gets in the way. |
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| 08:09.34 | xacatecas | wishes he was around 400km from where he currently is. on vacation by the beach. instead of fighting with this retarded GS GWX 4104 poc. |
| 08:09.39 | mrspinx | xacatecas I think it has to do with my router not liking sip i may flash it tomarrow |
| 08:10.17 | xacatecas | tcpdump should be able to tell you that easily enough. |
| 08:11.01 | xacatecas | ERROR Failed to write firmware gxw4100b.bin to Flash: Data MD5 fail(4105) <-- wtf?!? this is the firmware I downloaded from gs's site! |
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| 08:30.34 | xacatecas | http://pastebin.co.za/9491 <-- can somebody please take a look and see if they have any ideas as to why the gxw4104 (1.0.1.8 firmware) is initiating a call back into asterisk whenever i dial out over it? |
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| 08:37.01 | kaldemar | adante: in case you haven't found this: http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=14171 |
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| 09:48.41 | brunner1 | does anyone know how long it takes for IPKall to activate new phone numbers? |
| 09:54.59 | obnauticus | not very long |
| 09:55.02 | obnauticus | they say <24hrs |
| 09:55.10 | obnauticus | over the weekend it's more though |
| 09:55.17 | obnauticus | I think they have to manually add it or something |
| 09:55.33 | obnauticus | to make sure bots aren't fscking them over. No idea why they just don't use a captcha |
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| 10:05.06 | brunner1 | they do use captcha, actually |
| 10:05.25 | brunner1 | I can't imagine how many numbers they must be consuming |
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| 10:08.42 | brunner1 | why aren't there any other working services like IPKall? |
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| 10:38.32 | StanManCan | I'm having some issues with inbound calling now.... Not sure what I changed to effect it.. |
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| 11:43.59 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 11:46.54 | tengulre | how many lines support by asterisk at same time? |
| 11:50.29 | tengulre | anybody? |
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| 11:58.03 | telnettech | anybody awake in here |
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| 12:02.26 | telnettech | Im getting this error on my CLI; NOTICE[27919]: pbx_spool.c:269 attempt_thread: Call failed to go through, reason 3 |
| 12:02.53 | telnettech | anybody know where i can find error reasons so that I can find out what this error means? |
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| 12:13.33 | telnettech | guess no one is really up and in the room |
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| 12:17.46 | Beave | .... |
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| 12:33.55 | Beave | I have a older T100P PRI card, modules load fine and asterisk see's it fine, but i don't see the alarm light (red) on the back (nothing plugged in yet). It should blink, shouldnt it? |
| 12:36.22 | adante | kaldemar: ah right, thanks |
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| 13:48.56 | linagee | wow. reading this history about the telephone stuff is pretty amazing. the original phone system used a hand crank from one person to the other to generator the ringing. very fault-tolerant even if the electric grid went down! lol |
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| 13:53.58 | linagee | interesting. very quick open loop = dialing pulse. longer = hook flash for three way calling/etc. even longer = hangup/on hook |
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| 13:57.38 | riddlebox | hrmm have a phone interview with someone for a job working on asterisk, not sure if I want to leave a company where I am lead tech and go somewhere with no seniority |
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| 14:05.00 | nima0102 | hi |
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| 14:24.30 | oh2gma | hello, which version of mISDN should I use with 1.6.1-rc1 running on centos 5.2? |
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| 14:38.42 | jlatza | Hello, what do I need to get asterisk up and running? exept of a server. I dont know where to start to get the connection to the phoneline. |
| 14:39.18 | riddlebox | jlatza, the best way is to read this |
| 14:39.24 | riddlebox | jbot, ~thebook |
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| 14:46.06 | masus | hi all,is this normal ? exten => h,n,Noop(ANSWEREDTIME=${ANSWEREDTIME}); ----> Executing [h@md:3] NoOp("SIP/110-08370660", "ANSWEREDTIME=") in new stack . i cant get the answeredtime ,i use Asterisk 1.4.22 . |
| 14:48.22 | riddlebox | jlatza, http://www.cyberciti.biz/files/free-linux-books-pdfs/AsteriskTFOT.zip |
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| 15:22.08 | sipy | ~book |
| 15:22.09 | jbot | from memory, book is probably Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://tfot.leifmadsen.com or see ~buybook |
| 15:23.57 | Beave | I'm calling this card busted. T100P, modules load find, dahdi_cfg -vvv runs fine... asterisk "see's" it - but i never get any alarms (i sorta expect a red flashing alarm) |
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| 15:32.37 | sipy | whats zttool say? |
| 15:46.04 | Beave | actually.. i was jsut about to ask that... |
| 15:46.18 | Beave | is there something special i need to do to build dadhi_tool? |
| 15:47.01 | Beave | I assume it's been changed from zttool to that... can't seem to build it. |
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| 15:48.30 | Beave | Im probably just missing some dependancys.. |
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| 16:40.32 | [T]ank | having some trouble. I have my asterisk server connected to my sip provider. I have ports 5060 and 10000-15000 open as well and pointed to my asterisk server. I can make and take calls. I can hear the person on their cell phone, but they cannot hear me on my asterisk phone. What else do I need to check? |
| 16:40.35 | [T]ank | asterisk 1.4 btw |
| 16:42.19 | [T]ank | anyone awake? |
| 16:43.06 | drmessano | yes |
| 16:43.09 | drmessano | No idea |
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| 16:47.28 | [T]ank | im not getting any errors on the network. |
| 16:47.29 | [T]ank | rerr.. i mean the cli |
| 16:47.42 | [T]ank | i have added the externip to sip.conf and the localnet lines |
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| 16:48.49 | rob0 | sounds like a common SIP-NAT issue, the RTP inbound arrives, but outbound is not going out |
| 16:48.58 | rob0 | ~sipnat |
| 16:48.59 | jbot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 16:49.08 | rob0 | I guess you've seen that |
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| 16:49.38 | rob0 | could be a router misconfiguration too |
| 16:50.26 | [T]ank | when i dial in to the phone system all works fine. I just identified that it only happens when I dial out from the phone system. |
| 16:50.44 | [T]ank | yeah. I have looked over the sipnat guide. |
| 16:50.52 | [T]ank | but im sure I am missing something. |
| 16:52.10 | mick_laptop | heh, i was trying to help my friend troubleshoot nat issues yesterday w/ sip |
| 16:52.26 | mick_laptop | one of the most painful experiences :) |
| 16:52.43 | [T]ank | did you have a similar issue as myself? |
| 16:54.12 | Beave | on the T100P.. dahdi_tool shows nothing bad.. but when i loop the card, it's hanging.. |
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| 16:54.47 | Beave | the dahdi_tool that is... |
| 16:55.27 | Beave | Current Alarms: No alarms. |
| 16:55.27 | Beave | Sync Source: Internally clocked |
| 16:55.27 | Beave | IRQ Misses: 0 |
| 16:55.27 | Beave | Bipolar Viol: 0 |
| 16:55.27 | Beave | Tx/Rx Levels: 0/ 0 |
| 16:55.29 | Beave | Total/Conf/Act: 24/ 24/ 0 |
| 16:55.39 | Beave | anyways - bad card im thinking (?) |
| 16:56.51 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: If you're missing something maybe you should be showing us and we might see what you don't |
| 16:56.59 | [T]ank | k... |
| 16:57.00 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: Pastebin is your friend... |
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| 17:01.20 | [T]ank | http://pastebin.ca/1329993 |
| 17:01.45 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: externip=flagship.ath.cx <- not legal |
| 17:01.59 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: you "oopsed" on the guide's details on this |
| 17:02.10 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: must be an IP <- |
| 17:02.25 | [T]ank | what do you do in the case of a dynamic ip? |
| 17:02.43 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: Read the guide's sample config on this a little closer |
| 17:02.51 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: You'll see it pretty quick... |
| 17:03.11 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: and your ITSP peers should have "nat=no" in them" |
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| 17:05.06 | [T]ank | ITSP peers are the phone extensions, right? not the ones that connect to my provider? |
| 17:05.51 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: thats what those looks like |
| 17:06.32 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: And you have missed another extremely important parameter. Really read that guide again. |
| 17:13.21 | [T]ank | got it... it was the canreinvite. Thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 17:13.31 | [TK]D-Fender | [T]ank: You're welcome |
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| 17:42.48 | sipy | hey TK D-Bumper |
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| 18:05.33 | drmessano | sipy: Fail |
| 18:05.47 | drmessano | You need to get the process correct.. let me show you |
| 18:05.56 | drmessano | 1. Ask [TK]D-Fender for help |
| 18:06.06 | drmessano | 2. Be as useless as possible |
| 18:06.24 | drmessano | 3. Continually refer to him as "tkd" "td" or "tfender" |
| 18:06.38 | [TK]D-Fender | 4. get ClueBat-ed (tm) by [TK]D-Fender |
| 18:06.48 | [TK]D-Fender | 4. get ClueBat-ed (tm) by [TK]D-Fender AGAIN |
| 18:06.50 | [TK]D-Fender | 4. get ClueBat-ed (tm) by [TK]D-Fender AND AGAIN |
| 18:06.55 | [TK]D-Fender | (n) |
| 18:06.57 | [TK]D-Fender | :p |
| 18:06.59 | Talkradio | :D |
| 18:07.03 | drmessano | 4. Call him out on being a jerk when your uselessness becomes a problem for him, yourself, and mankind |
| 18:07.14 | drmessano | 5. ??? |
| 18:07.17 | drmessano | 6. Pout |
| 18:07.35 | [TK]D-Fender | 7. find short pier |
| 18:07.39 | [TK]D-Fender | 8. take long walk |
| 18:08.05 | [TK]D-Fender | 9. Try to breath like fish |
| 18:08.07 | [TK]D-Fender | 10. FAIL |
| 18:08.35 | drmessano | 13 years on IRC.. Why the hell cant people use tab complete and be somewhat respectful of/to the person they are confering with |
| 18:08.43 | drmessano | I STILL do NOT get IT |
| 18:08.52 | drmessano | Anyway, waddup tfend |
| 18:09.31 | drmessano | I see TroutCreek isn't here today :( |
| 18:09.42 | sipy | I had nuttin to do, so I wanted to see if I could spin him up. |
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| 18:10.06 | drmessano | Well, follow my formula |
| 18:10.34 | drmessano | (3) is important |
| 18:11.04 | drmessano | Bonus points for using letters not even in his nick |
| 18:12.17 | sipy | I thought TK-Bumper was creative |
| 18:12.26 | drmessano | Too much thought |
| 18:12.39 | drmessano | You typed out full words |
| 18:12.58 | drmessano | and "Bumper" is somewhat sensical |
| 18:13.11 | drmessano | TK-Dender would still be a full work, just non sensical |
| 18:13.15 | drmessano | word* |
| 18:13.35 | drmessano | tkender, etc |
| 18:13.46 | sipy | UD-Fender |
| 18:13.56 | [TK]D-Fender | F-Dunder! |
| 18:14.01 | [TK]D-Fender | doh! |
| 18:14.04 | drmessano | TKL <--- |
| 18:14.32 | sipy | gotta go check on sprint cup practice. |
| 18:15.41 | drmessano | I gotta go check on a nap, I think.. I SHALL COME BACK TO TAUNT YOU ALL A SECOND^H^H^H^H^H^H THOUSANTH TIME |
| 18:15.46 | rob0 | 13 years! In that amount of time you couldn't find a life?!? ;) |
| 18:15.50 | drmessano | lol |
| 18:16.05 | drmessano | Its horribly true |
| 18:16.32 | drmessano | somehow managed to be gainfully employed and have 7 wives |
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| 18:17.21 | drmessano | They were all like "YOU NEVER COMMUNICATE WITH ME!!! WE NEVER TALK" |
| 18:17.30 | drmessano | Im all like "I DONT KNOW YOUR NICK" |
| 18:17.33 | drmessano | :( |
| 18:19.56 | sipy | there all like "Your never romantic" |
| 18:20.13 | sipy | yeah well....you want romance? Read a book. |
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| 18:22.30 | drmessano | "I TRIED TO CYBER YOU" |
| 18:23.10 | drmessano | I dont have that problem with wife #8 |
| 18:23.28 | drmessano | With her its more like "You know, I wanted to talk to you about the bills" .. and I am like " |
| 18:23.48 | drmessano | "Well, I was upgrading Asterisk and a compile error, so I couldnt call you" |
| 18:23.54 | drmessano | "But we live in the same house" |
| 18:24.01 | drmessano | ".... I dont understand" |
| 18:24.03 | giovani | heh |
| 18:24.26 | giovani | damn gcc problems |
| 18:24.35 | giovani | they've brought down many a marriage |
| 18:25.03 | drmessano | I refuse to have a relationship with any woman that refuses to compile |
| 18:25.07 | drmessano | No point really.. |
| 18:25.36 | drmessano | "If I wanted to stare at code all day, I would hangout on sourceforge" |
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| 18:26.42 | drmessano | Wife #3 used to compile all the time.. She sometimes needed to be built 3 or 4 times a dat |
| 18:26.44 | drmessano | day* |
| 18:27.20 | drmessano | Could never get wife #5 to compile. I fell for the promise of a bug free relationship, but in the end, she was vaporware |
| 18:29.23 | drmessano | Wife #2 loves to compile.. sometimes she would copy her codebase to another system and compile while I was in sleep mode. Last thing I needed was a bad commit from some code that got "checked in" without my knowledge, so I purged that one from SVN |
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| 18:36.13 | Mog | heh |
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| 18:44.45 | dkwiebe | Good day |
| 18:45.14 | dkwiebe | I'm having difficult bringing up a Telus PRI. I'd be more than happy to pay for somebodys time |
| 18:47.22 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Whree have you snagged? |
| 18:47.36 | cvnet | hi all |
| 18:47.48 | dkwiebe | The channel shows that it's "Provisioned,Down,Active" |
| 18:47.55 | dkwiebe | I'm using a sangoma card. |
| 18:48.47 | dkwiebe | They see me but the D channel is not up yet. I've set the timing to "1" which I believe is correct |
| 18:48.57 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: pastebin you wanpipe status, and configs, and your * configs for it |
| 18:49.06 | dkwiebe | I will |
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| 18:57.22 | dkwiebe | http://pastebin.com/m60d09868 |
| 18:58.05 | cvnet | tk8: hi, do you remember the problem I had with voipswtich yesterday? |
| 18:58.15 | cvnet | [TK]D-Fender :do you remember the problem I had with voipswtich yesterday? |
| 19:00.08 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: TDMV_DCHAN = 24 <- change to "0" and restart wanpipe. |
| 19:00.27 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Then if that failes try switching your signaling to "national" from "ni1" |
| 19:00.35 | dkwiebe | coming right up |
| 19:01.52 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: you were right... |
| 19:01.58 | cvnet | if you have one * sending a call to other and the receiving * just has ringing and then hang up, is that couned as a connected call ? |
| 19:03.39 | [TK]D-Fender | cvnet: Ringing() answers the call. |
| 19:04.00 | s0uls | anyone using asterisk-1.4-r174082 with chan-sccp-b? |
| 19:04.26 | cvnet | hum, it doesnt make sense, when you call long distance, you dont get charge for ringing only when someone picks up the phone |
| 19:04.54 | dkwiebe | [TK]D-Fender: I've changed those but it is still the same message. |
| 19:05.22 | cvnet | I thought when both parties pick up the line that is considered a connected call |
| 19:05.30 | [TK]D-Fender | cvnet: *'s Ringing() application ANSWERS TEH DAMN LINE. Get it thgouth your head. YOU are the one doing this |
| 19:06.15 | s0uls | cvnet: your asterisk already answers the call by putting it into ringing() |
| 19:06.16 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Changed signalling for test #2? |
| 19:06.18 | s0uls | if thats more explicit |
| 19:06.39 | [TK]D-Fender | s0uls: Could I be any clearer? :) |
| 19:08.01 | s0uls | [TK]D-Fender: just tried to put it in different words, i think cvnet is thinking too much handset pickup here |
| 19:10.03 | dkwiebe | [TK]D-Fender: I tried both national and ni1 with pri_cpe. I also change the signalling to pri_net and tried both switchtypes |
| 19:11.10 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Don't forget to call up Telux to confirm the line IS really up. I've seen crap where the telco will say one things and then "Oh we were waiting to hear your got your equipement ready so it wouldn't throw off alarms" |
| 19:11.28 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: What kind of cable have you got coming off the smartjack? |
| 19:11.44 | dkwiebe | I just talked to them. The lady said that she was trying to bring up the d channel and she would leave it active for me. |
| 19:11.58 | dkwiebe | I have a 100' shielded t1 cable. |
| 19:12.17 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Should basically be a straight-through ethernet cable.. |
| 19:12.39 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Shielding hardly matters that much unless the area is fubar'd |
| 19:12.55 | dkwiebe | I'll check the pinouts. Actually, I'll replace it. |
| 19:12.56 | dkwiebe | brb |
| 19:13.31 | [TK]D-Fender | nsf=none |
| 19:13.33 | [TK]D-Fender | facilityenable=yes |
| 19:13.41 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Shouldn't need these. just comment out for now |
| 19:14.31 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Everything else looks kosher... all our work is between the telco and zapata at this point... |
| 19:15.23 | dkwiebe | [TK]D-Fender. I'll comment them out. |
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| 19:22.32 | SparFux | Hello. I have a weird question about telephony. Can't I just use a DSL splitter as an adapter from one TAE to three TAEs? The splitting part should be no problem, when I do only voice. |
| 19:26.56 | dkwiebe | [TK]D-Fender: I switched the cable out and tested the different switchtypes. |
| 19:28.02 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: Brounght down * & wanpipe completely brought it all back up, always the same? |
| 19:28.49 | dkwiebe | [TK]D-Fender: I wasn't bringing wanpipe down. I'll do that. sorry |
| 19:31.01 | [TK]D-Fender | dkwiebe: You better have for the DCHAN change I told you for for wanpipe :) |
| 19:31.41 | dkwiebe | [TK]D-Fender: I did that one. :) I didn't do it for the switchtype changes though. |
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| 19:49.37 | dkwiebe | [TK]D-Fender: just talking to the telco. we'll see what |
| 19:49.44 | dkwiebe | oops, what they have to say. |
| 19:51.01 | ScribbleJ | I have a dumb question... what is 'julius'? Someone is saying speech rec for asterisk, but I am lost trying to find such a thing. |
| 19:52.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ScribbleJ: http://julius.sourceforge.jp/en_index.php |
| 19:52.54 | ScribbleJ | Thanks, I googled, had no luck. |
| 19:56.10 | ScribbleJ | Hrm, that looks very interesting... I think whoever told me it's integrated to Asterisk was mistaken, though, unless you found that, too. |
| 19:56.11 | ScribbleJ | Heheh |
| 19:56.28 | eric2 | is preparing pastebin for a dump.... BLF work returns ;) |
| 19:56.31 | ScribbleJ | I'm going to post my Sphinx and Asterisk integration to my own website for people to review and test, later today. |
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| 20:09.28 | eric2 | [Tk]D-Fender... here's all the guts of my inners for BLF http://pastebin.ca/1330139 |
| 20:10.35 | giovani | ScribbleJ: url? |
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| 20:11.09 | [TK]D-Fender | eric2: Everything... except whats happening |
| 20:11.26 | eric2 | no blf on the my snom phone |
| 20:11.51 | eric2 | I hvae it configures to watch an extension but zip... I'm trying different things with the phone as we speak... |
| 20:12.02 | eric2 | * config ok as far as you can see? |
| 20:12.15 | [TK]D-Fender | eric2: So far... |
| 20:12.25 | eric2 | nothing like screaming "what a moron" ? |
| 20:12.35 | ScribbleJ | giovani, it's scribblej.com but there is /nothing/ of interest there yet... I'll post it again later today when I put the code up. |
| 20:12.38 | ScribbleJ | I'm very excited! |
| 20:13.37 | [TK]D-Fender | eric2: That might come in the second wave :) |
| 20:14.10 | giovani | ScribbleJ: cool |
| 20:15.07 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 20:15.08 | jbot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/ |
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| 20:40.23 | ubuntuphr3k | Good afternoon to all! |
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| 20:42.15 | ubuntuphr3k | anybody alive in here? |
| 20:42.59 | [TK]D-Fender | looks around.... |
| 20:43.02 | [TK]D-Fender | umm... no? |
| 20:43.10 | ubuntuphr3k | anyway -- has anyone else in here used Switchvox? |
| 20:43.13 | ubuntuphr3k | :| |
| 20:43.17 | [TK]D-Fender | whistles innocently |
| 20:43.32 | ubuntuphr3k | im getting horrible audio even when i call the pbx ivr |
| 20:43.36 | ubuntuphr3k | its terrible! |
| 20:43.41 | [TK]D-Fender | ubuntuphr3k: ubuntuphr3k Feel free to move on to more specific questions... |
| 20:43.49 | ubuntuphr3k | Sure thing |
| 20:44.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ubuntuphr3k: Details about the call please. |
| 20:44.13 | [TK]D-Fender | ubuntuphr3k: Precise hardware and networking details. |
| 20:44.16 | ubuntuphr3k | I'm using Switchvox ... when I connect to extension 800 (IVR) I get a choppy "c co congratul a..." |
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| 20:44.42 | ubuntuphr3k | Its running on VMWARE |
| 20:44.52 | ubuntuphr3k | uh |
| 20:45.01 | drmessano | ..... |
| 20:45.05 | drmessano | Thats why |
| 20:45.23 | ubuntuphr3k | thats what i figured, but i read someone else was able to install it successfully on vmware |
| 20:45.32 | ubuntuphr3k | I just can't find where its at |
| 20:45.59 | giovani | is cpu being maxed? |
| 20:46.04 | ubuntuphr3k | no |
| 20:46.08 | giovani | ram? |
| 20:46.10 | giovani | etc |
| 20:46.17 | ubuntuphr3k | allocated to the vm? |
| 20:46.22 | giovani | of course |
| 20:46.24 | ubuntuphr3k | sure |
| 20:46.27 | drmessano | What are the specs on the bare metal? |
| 20:46.30 | ubuntuphr3k | 512MB RAM/30GB HD |
| 20:46.30 | [TK]D-Fender | ubuntuphr3k: Yes... and some people fall off the top of 10 story buildings and survive. We try not to think about the other 99.99999% |
| 20:46.40 | drmessano | What are the specs on the bare metal? |
| 20:46.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Already looking like shit |
| 20:46.56 | giovani | and which vmware product is this? |
| 20:47.20 | drmessano | What are the specs of the server you VMware running on? |
| 20:47.23 | ubuntuphr3k | 1.86Ghz Core2Duo, 2GB DDR2 |
| 20:47.26 | ubuntuphr3k | 160GB SATA |
| 20:47.34 | drmessano | Which OS? |
| 20:47.35 | ubuntuphr3k | VMware Server 1.0.8 |
| 20:47.47 | ubuntuphr3k | Ubuntu Server 8.04.2 |
| 20:47.52 | giovani | sigh |
| 20:47.56 | giovani | people need to run real hypervisors |
| 20:48.05 | drmessano | ESXi |
| 20:48.09 | ubuntuphr3k | not in my budget at the moment giovani |
| 20:48.14 | giovani | ubuntuphr3k: ^ |
| 20:48.18 | giovani | esxi is free, my friend |
| 20:48.24 | drmessano | ESXi |
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| 20:48.54 | ubuntuphr3k | hmm |
| 20:49.01 | ubuntuphr3k | i thought i tried ESXi before |
| 20:49.09 | ubuntuphr3k | let me think |
| 20:49.10 | drmessano | Well, you didnt now |
| 20:49.40 | drmessano | Im not sure what that means anyway |
| 20:50.54 | ubuntuphr3k | no there's a reason i ended up not using esxi |
| 20:51.02 | ubuntuphr3k | let me look at my notes one sec |
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| 21:02.13 | ubuntuphr3k | hmmm the only thing i noted was that there was no hypervisor support on this server |
| 21:03.11 | drmessano | and running it atop an OS with a larger footprint only shoots yourself in the foot |
| 21:03.33 | ubuntuphr3k | so what you're saying is there really isn't a solution to my problem |
| 21:03.46 | ubuntuphr3k | and that i should try installing it on the machine, bare-metal |
| 21:04.25 | ubuntuphr3k | which isn't an issue, since nothing critical is running -- its just a test machine |
| 21:04.35 | giovani | ubuntuphr3k: I don't know what "no hypervisor support on this server" means |
| 21:04.36 | Carlos_PHX | We run most of our Asterisk infrastructure on VMware enterprise 3.5. |
| 21:04.46 | Carlos_PHX | The free server product is unusable for voice. |
| 21:04.47 | giovani | s/enterprise/ESX/ |
| 21:04.58 | Carlos_PHX | Have not tried the free ESX version. |
| 21:05.06 | ubuntuphr3k | Thanks for that, Carlos -- useful information. |
| 21:05.12 | giovani | ESX and ESXi are identical, other than for the management console |
| 21:05.15 | giovani | afaik |
| 21:05.27 | Carlos_PHX | Our hardware is Dell 1855 blades, 3.2 Xeon, 8GB. |
| 21:05.28 | ubuntuphr3k | I'm going to try to install it on the machine without any virtualization. |
| 21:05.43 | giovani | ubuntuphr3k: you still haven't explained why you can't run ESXi on your machine |
| 21:05.47 | Carlos_PHX | Each Asterisk VM has 256-512MB assigned. |
| 21:05.53 | giovani | a core2duo is perfectly capable of supporting a bare-metal hypervisor |
| 21:06.33 | Carlos_PHX | Gotta run, but yeah, that should definitely work fine. We have a lot of Opteron 1.4 and similar low-end machines. |
| 21:06.54 | ubuntuphr3k | alright |
| 21:07.12 | Maliuta | you're gonna run * in a VM? something that can be _that_ I/O dependant? |
| 21:07.25 | Maliuta | whacked man, whacked. |
| 21:07.28 | giovani | a vm doesn't define i/o issues |
| 21:07.37 | giovani | I run asterisk in a vm, with iscsi storage |
| 21:07.48 | giovani | faster than anything you have on your server, I'm confident |
| 21:07.49 | Maliuta | giovani: it adds latency to each and every i/o call |
| 21:07.59 | giovani | very minimal, with proper tuning |
| 21:08.09 | Maliuta | giovani: my homne server is a coppermie 733 |
| 21:08.16 | giovani | heh |
| 21:08.16 | Maliuta | not hard to get faster than that |
| 21:08.25 | Maliuta | I think my watch ihas more cpu |
| 21:08.32 | giovani | we're not talking about cpu, of course |
| 21:08.53 | ubuntuphr3k | giovani -- im going to attempt to install vmware esxi on the machine again, and ill post the results |
| 21:09.10 | giovani | ubuntuphr3k: well ... don't just try it without reading installation documents and preparing first |
| 21:09.23 | giovani | that would probably lead to failure |
| 21:10.21 | ubuntuphr3k | im burning the iso now |
| 21:11.26 | eric2 | hey [TK]D-Fender thanks for the help yesterday, got blf to light up like a Christmas tree :) |
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| 21:12.25 | [TK]D-Fender | eric2: Good to hear |
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| 21:17.04 | prg3 | I can't seem to get my FXO cards to pull callerid.. It anyone wants to help, I'll throw together a pastebin with relavent configs.. |
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| 21:27.35 | eric2 | Apparently also hyphens "-" in the SIP username break hint/SUBSCRIPTION is this fixed in *1.6? for BLF functionality? |
| 21:27.52 | eric2 | my usernames all use the '-' char in them.... |
| 21:29.12 | ubuntuphr3k | ok giovani it says esxi was successfully installed |
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| 21:31.30 | ubuntuphr3k | ok i remember what the issue was now |
| 21:31.37 | ubuntuphr3k | i can't seem to configure network management |
| 21:32.02 | ubuntuphr3k | when i hit 'Enter' to configure management network all it asks is if i want to reset |
| 21:38.50 | [TK]D-Fender | eric2: News to me... |
| 21:38.52 | eppigy | hello |
| 21:38.54 | eppigy | i am dave |
| 21:39.23 | ubuntuphr3k | let me look for an intel nic |
| 21:39.36 | eric2 | If I use rc-2000 as the username, blf does not work, if the username is 2000 then it works.... :( |
| 21:39.52 | Carlos_PHX | Maliuta: Whacked, ok, but it works. In production. For thousands of calls per day. |
| 21:40.39 | Carlos_PHX | ubuntuphr3k: There are a few best practices for VMware that you should observe. |
| 21:41.07 | Carlos_PHX | One simple one is to make all of your memory and HD space sized to a 64k boundary. |
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| 21:45.15 | StanManCan | I'm getting an "unable to transfer" error when calling my 1800 number. My dial plan looks like this |
| 21:45.16 | StanManCan | http://pastebin.com/d575cb616 |
| 21:45.57 | StanManCan | the phone starts ringing in the first place which it shouldn't I don't think |
| 21:47.12 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: So are you going to show us the real debug today? |
| 21:47.29 | StanManCan | just gave you a direct copy paste so |
| 21:47.47 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: No, that is just dialplan. Not CLI output with debug of the actual channel. |
| 21:47.54 | StanManCan | How do I do that ? |
| 21:48.06 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: the dialplan itself looks fine and means nothing to your problem. |
| 21:48.38 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Go to * CLI. Enable SIP / IAX2 debug depending on the channel type the call comes in as |
| 21:48.47 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Set verbose to 10 |
| 21:49.25 | StanManCan | so asterisk -vvvvvvvvvvc |
| 21:50.04 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: And "sip set debug on" if the call is SIP. |
| 21:50.37 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Next there is no context header in that little clip you showed. |
| 21:50.55 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Nor do we see the peeer config. This time mask ONLY the password. |
| 21:51.19 | StanManCan | i'm not masking anything it's just hat i'm on a different computer |
| 21:51.32 | StanManCan | i just re-typed out what i thought was necessary |
| 21:51.50 | StanManCan | i just re-typed out what i thought was necessary |
| 21:51.54 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: typed? cut & paste <- |
| 21:52.07 | StanManCan | can't cut and paste it's on a different computer |
| 21:52.14 | StanManCan | the linus computer only has console i'm not sure how i'd pastebin it |
| 21:52.16 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Never hand type this stuff becuase next thing we know your typos will fall through the cracks |
| 21:52.26 | StanManCan | linux* |
| 21:52.28 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: SSH from the one you're on. |
| 21:54.13 | StanManCan | well i'l lbe a econd then i need to figure out how to install and enabl ssh on my debian box |
| 21:55.01 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Already has it I'm sure |
| 21:55.09 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: All but assured. |
| 21:55.21 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: "ssh root@1.2.3.4" |
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| 21:59.09 | StanManCan | usign putty |
| 21:59.31 | StanManCan | giving connection refused |
| 22:06.01 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Make sure ssh is listening on your server |
| 22:06.56 | StanManCan | how do I go about that... I'm not super familiar with Linux yet, just started when installing my mail/asterisk server a few days ago |
| 22:07.57 | drmessano | waits for it |
| 22:08.49 | Pryon | netstat -at | grep ssh |
| 22:09.27 | russellb | StanManCan: (as root) run "apt-get install openssh-server" |
| 22:09.37 | StanManCan | nope, not running |
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| 22:10.24 | drmessano | Maybe you need to install Ubuntu.. Its like Debian, but more like Vista |
| 22:10.26 | drmessano | The kids love it |
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| 22:12.07 | StanManCan | no need for backhanded comments drmessano |
| 22:12.15 | drmessano | Wasnt a backhanded comment |
| 22:12.21 | StanManCan | most certainly was |
| 22:12.31 | StanManCan | <drmessano> The kids love it |
| 22:12.38 | drmessano | I would think I would know the intention of my comment |
| 22:12.40 | drmessano | and it was not |
| 22:13.06 | StanManCan | well, it's sad that you feel the need to be ... "like that" |
| 22:13.19 | drmessano | .... wtf |
| 22:13.27 | Pryon | We just had an installfest last weekend and the vast majority of installs were ubuntu. So, new users (aka the kids) *do* seem to love it. |
| 22:13.32 | ubuntuphr3k | it was kind of a below the belt comment |
| 22:13.43 | drmessano | wow.. IRC is going downhill when ever n00b wants to pick a fight |
| 22:14.36 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: More like the mountain grows... just wait'll Old Faithful his tipping point :p |
| 22:14.40 | [TK]D-Fender | hits* |
| 22:14.51 | StanManCan | I think I'm doing fairly well considering I've installed my mail server, webserver, and got asterisk running without any help so far |
| 22:14.55 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Go install ssh as you were shown |
| 22:15.15 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: and I'd hold "asterisk" running off that list for the moment ;) |
| 22:15.23 | drmessano | StanManCan: A lot of NEW users like Ubuntu.. Its easy enough that even the 14 yr olds like it. If you want to take that as an insult, I suggest you go to walmart and buy a spine, because you wont last 2 weeks on IRC |
| 22:15.25 | StanManCan | no, it's running, i have backup' |
| 22:15.32 | drmessano | StanManCan: Seriously.. Theres no need for this |
| 22:15.41 | StanManCan | s of my working confs, just made a larger dialplan that kind ofknocked it's socks off a bit |
| 22:15.44 | russellb | likes Ubuntu |
| 22:15.51 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: So... got SSH running now? |
| 22:15.53 | Qwell | drmessano: Quit being "like that" |
| 22:15.58 | drmessano | Yes, Qwell |
| 22:16.01 | drmessano | :) |
| 22:16.07 | drmessano | Sorry to be "like that" |
| 22:17.11 | StanManCan | drmessano: I've been in and out of linux over the years and have just found that lately, the IRC support has turned a but more snobby and snotty than they once were. There _was_ a time when people would just help you and encourage you to learn. |
| 22:17.38 | russellb | StanManCan: this channel is pretty harsh, in general, compared to others. |
| 22:18.01 | StanManCan | so I've noticed ;) |
| 22:18.02 | Pryon | try ##c for extra harsh |
| 22:18.07 | russellb | it bothers me on a regular basis ... |
| 22:18.12 | drmessano | StanManCan: I think the mindset that everyone needs to come into IRC swinging their fists is the problem.. Nobody wants to learn anymore, they want to argue |
| 22:18.36 | russellb | drmessano: I'm sorry, but he did not swing a fist at you. |
| 22:18.43 | drmessano | StanManCan: which youve proven by your reaction to my not-so-offensive comment that has now wasted like 30 lines of IRC life |
| 22:18.43 | StanManCan | No, I want to learn. But telling me to "go try ubuntu because the noobs like it", is a backhanded comment regardless of how you feel |
| 22:19.17 | drmessano | Never said noobs.. |
| 22:19.19 | drmessano | But ok |
| 22:19.23 | StanManCan | kids = noobs |
| 22:19.32 | drmessano | um.. ok.. |
| 22:19.54 | drmessano | Im gonna get back to not-fairytale land.. |
| 22:20.33 | mrsci | Does anyone here know of a good t.38 provider in the USA? |
| 22:23.36 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: moving along now... |
| 22:23.42 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: IS SSH running now? |
| 22:24.46 | StanManCan | Fender: |
| 22:24.46 | StanManCan | http://pastebin.com/d75c474b6 |
| 22:25.17 | StanManCan | http://pastebin.com/d6978ce1f |
| 22:25.33 | StanManCan | there's my iax.conf and extensions.conf |
| 22:28.50 | carrar | I swapped out FireFox with Asterisk, best browser in town! |
| 22:30.54 | StanManCan | any idea's fender ? |
| 22:31.04 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Now I'm going to say this very clear again. hopefully it will come in this time... |
| 22:31.52 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: all the configs in the world are meaningless unless you look at the CALL DEBUG |
| 22:31.52 | StanManCan | is it saved anywhere |
| 22:32.03 | StanManCan | i enabled dbugging made a call ended and do I just go back in console history and copy it, or is it saved somewhere |
| 22:32.05 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: No, you've been told countless times to go to the * CLI <- |
| 22:32.22 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Then enable IAX2 debug |
| 22:33.14 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: And pastebin the ENTIRE incoming call attempt's debug. MASK NOTHING. |
| 22:33.47 | carrar | not even 1 character?!!! |
| 22:33.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ~clubat carrar |
| 22:34.02 | carrar | heh |
| 22:34.04 | [TK]D-Fender | ~cluebat carrar |
| 22:34.05 | jbot | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps carrar. |
| 22:34.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ClueBat(tm) NEVER MISSES! |
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| 22:46.55 | StanManCan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.58 | StanManCan | thats the last 5000 lines |
| 22:46.59 | StanManCan | need more ? |
| 22:47.06 | sipy | Bam!! |
| 22:48.45 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Are you trying to actually "transfer" a call between 2 phones? |
| 22:49.19 | StanManCan | no, i'm trying to make it so if you call in on my 1866 number it transfers you to authenticate you and then lets you make an outgoing call |
| 22:49.34 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: do "transfer=no" in your ITSP's peer entry |
| 22:50.02 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: That looks equivalent to a SIP reinvite failure |
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| 22:51.52 | StanManCan | even though i'm using IAX2 ? |
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| 22:54.37 | StanManCan | i do need to trasnfer between phones though, just not in this example |
| 22:54.57 | drmessano | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+DISA |
| 22:55.09 | StanManCan | I was using extension 9 as sort of the "authentication" extension |
| 22:56.30 | drmessano | From the Wiki: DISA (Direct Inward System Access) allows someone calling in from outside the telephone switch (PBX) to obtain an "internal" system dialtone and dial calls as if from one of the extensions attached to the telephone switch. |
| 22:57.55 | StanManCan | yea just reading that now. so DISA looks like it's for more of a multi-user setting where you can create a list of "pins" and give those to people ? |
| 22:58.06 | StanManCan | while authenticate's just one number |
| 22:58.24 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Add what I told you to and try |
| 22:58.29 | drmessano | Look at the example |
| 22:58.43 | drmessano | Authenticate doesnt care if its 1 number or 100 |
| 22:58.58 | carrar | or no numbers! |
| 22:59.04 | drmessano | yep |
| 22:59.57 | drmessano | DISA is what you want.. then all your dialing rules will be in effect for that call, as if the caller is on the inside.. so you dont have to duplicate call routing |
| 23:00.16 | [TK]D-Fender | DISA is actually rather worthless... |
| 23:00.25 | drmessano | How so? |
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| 23:00.50 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: I could loop dialtone in an IVR and come to the same effect with MORE control. |
| 23:00.57 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: DISA timeouts drop calls, etc |
| 23:01.04 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: And screws with CDR |
| 23:01.30 | drmessano | I haven't used it that much, but never had a problem with it |
| 23:01.55 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Its just one of those worthless shitty apps like BlackList was. |
| 23:02.04 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: More things you can do with 2 lines of dialplan. |
| 23:02.21 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: drmessano and then people treat these all like "magic" ooooohhhhhh |
| 23:02.44 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Have you no dealt with your transfer issue? |
| 23:02.53 | carrar | Asterisk IS magic! |
| 23:03.07 | carrar | sometimes things just dissapear! |
| 23:04.11 | StanManCan | fender: just trying t o figure out where i add the trasnfer=no |
| 23:04.14 | [TK]D-Fender | rm -rf / 's carrar |
| 23:04.40 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: under your [voipms] peer |
| 23:04.58 | carrar | everything is read only on my fs!! :) |
| 23:06.16 | StanManCan | hmm.. doesn't seem to help. I can't dial in on either of my lines |
| 23:06.45 | StanManCan | i know this isn't a debug, but this sis what i get when i call in my normal line |
| 23:06.45 | StanManCan | http://pastebin.com/m719cf77 |
| 23:07.26 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: You know that looks like an INFINITE LOOP to me... |
| 23:07.44 | StanManCan | you said my dialplan looks fine though? |
| 23:07.57 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Which could mean dialplan error. Stop trying to dial right out and DO SOMETHING with the call instead for testing |
| 23:08.18 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Fine in the sense that it could ACCEPT a call.. not that the call that comes in itself couldn't be broken |
| 23:08.45 | StanManCan | I'm not trying to dial out, thats the 866 number |
| 23:08.46 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Look at it... its calling itself. |
| 23:09.04 | StanManCan | This number should just dial in, answer the call, and ask for an extension |
| 23:09.16 | StanManCan | http://pastebin.com/ddd3a6e1 |
| 23:09.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Executing [2504129598@outbound:1] Goto("IAX2/voipms-6981", "12504129598,1") in new stack |
| 23:09.21 | [TK]D-Fender | -- Goto (outbound,12504129598,1) |
| 23:09.23 | [TK]D-Fender | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:09.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Is that what you see here? |
| 23:09.31 | [TK]D-Fender | I see it adding a 1 and calling itself <- |
| 23:09.33 | carrar | [voipms] |
| 23:09.33 | carrar | context = outbound |
| 23:09.34 | carrar | heh |
| 23:09.39 | [TK]D-Fender | INDEED |
| 23:09.46 | carrar | matching and dialing out again |
| 23:09.54 | carrar | RoXors |
| 23:10.09 | StanManCan | so voipms should be set to incoming_calls |
| 23:10.20 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Undo this "I think I'm a calling card company" setup and do a SANE text and slowy build your setup. those are 2 messy contexts |
| 23:10.21 | carrar | the context |
| 23:10.28 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: With overlapping extens, etc |
| 23:10.52 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: It isn't a question of where it goes, its a question of you put there. |
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| 23:11.41 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: the EXTEN on inbound is the # that was dialed. You then just throw it right back out. Welcome to Loopland, population : you |
| 23:12.02 | StanManCan | k so i set the voipms to incoming_calls and i can call in now, but can't call out.. |
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| 23:12.07 | carrar | You + (you ^ you) |
| 23:12.20 | carrar | or something like that |
| 23:12.36 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: "can't call out" I presume is from one of your IAX softphones? |
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| 23:12.46 | StanManCan | well IP phones but same thing |
| 23:12.55 | StanManCan | IAX ip phones |
| 23:12.56 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Ok, please be more complete. |
| 23:13.05 | carrar | [voipms] |
| 23:13.06 | carrar | context = incoming_calls |
| 23:13.10 | carrar | do that |
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| 23:13.18 | carrar | reload your iax2 conf |
| 23:13.20 | StanManCan | i have, and it lets me receive calls now |
| 23:13.27 | carrar | k |
| 23:13.27 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: You desperately need to understand the importance of contexts in separating your dialplan. Go read Chapter 5 a few times. |
| 23:13.40 | StanManCan | but now I can't call out, as where when voipms context was "outbound" I could call out |
| 23:14.00 | StanManCan | i read chapter 5 last night and was working on this till 5am |
| 23:14.00 | StanManCan | lol |
| 23:14.05 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: You cross-included context. You setup is small and messy everything is just crammed together |
| 23:14.52 | StanManCan | so should i have an incoming context, and then jump them to anothe context for internal stuff ? |
| 23:15.23 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: incoming from ITSP in one, some outbound in another, other intal in another, 1 for your phones that includes several others. |
| 23:15.24 | carrar | yes |
| 23:15.29 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Break that mess up. |
| 23:15.39 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Do not mix exten patterns |
| 23:15.57 | StanManCan | 1 extension per context you mean ? |
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| 23:16.22 | carrar | put all your extensions in one context |
| 23:16.32 | carrar | Phone extensions |
| 23:16.53 | carrar | incoming DID in a context |
| 23:17.00 | carrar | outgoing dialplan in another |
| 23:17.21 | StanManCan | kk |
| 23:17.29 | StanManCan | let me re-do thiss |
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| 23:18.22 | ekat | hello. i am trying to figure out which 4-port analog card to buy for outbound calls. Are the digium cards the best? They are expensive compared to the Rhino or Voicetronix cards. Any suggestions or recommendations? |
| 23:18.39 | carrar | I recommend Digium cards |
| 23:19.06 | ekat | ok, thanks |
| 23:19.08 | carrar | never had issues with them |
| 23:19.10 | giovani | ekat: I'm far from an expert on this ... but, I had very bad echo issues with digium cards, even with software solutions |
| 23:19.19 | giovani | I'd recommend cards with hardware echo cancellation |
| 23:19.20 | ekat | oh really? |
| 23:19.23 | ekat | 1 for and 1 against |
| 23:19.24 | ekat | hehe |
| 23:19.36 | fakhir | digium cards |
| 23:19.41 | giovani | rhino sells some with, and some without hardware echo cancellation |
| 23:19.41 | StanManCan | ekat: I have a digium TDM400P with 4xFXO modules for sale... |
| 23:19.43 | carrar | You can get hardware echo card with Digium cards |
| 23:19.44 | ekat | i thought the latest digium cards hard hardware echo cancellation on them, |
| 23:19.58 | ekat | yea ok |
| 23:20.04 | giovani | ekat: they may :) -- like I said ... I'm no expert -- the two TDM400Ps I bought did not |
| 23:20.14 | giovani | but that was a few years ago |
| 23:20.16 | ekat | ok thanks :) |
| 23:20.21 | giovani | good luck :) |
| 23:20.40 | StanManCan | ekat: let me know if you want the TDM400P though I got one with 4xFXO modules for sale that's been used a total of a few hours |
| 23:20.52 | ekat | StanManCan: ok, thanks for the offer |
| 23:21.06 | StanManCan | ekat: my work bought it and oculdn't make it work so they boxed it up for the last year and said to ebay it. I have it up there for $120 right now |
| 23:21.09 | carrar | oh 4 port analog, I thought you said 4 port T1 |
| 23:21.10 | carrar | sorry |
| 23:21.16 | drmessano | Echo is more a function of the line than the card.. although some cards are shittier for it |
| 23:21.19 | ekat | yea, analog |
| 23:21.24 | ekat | i only really need 2 lines |
| 23:21.34 | carrar | just get a ATA |
| 23:21.48 | ekat | whats that? |
| 23:21.57 | carrar | Cisco ATA-186 has two analog ports |
| 23:22.04 | [TK]D-Fender | LINES, not PHONES |
| 23:22.12 | ekat | ahh, gotcha |
| 23:22.24 | drmessano | I doubt theres a card out there that would solve a bad echo problem without having some sort of EC |
| 23:22.28 | carrar | $10 on ebay |
| 23:22.29 | [TK]D-Fender | ekat: So you need to support 2 analog LINES? |
| 23:22.48 | ekat | yes, FXO connections to the telco |
| 23:22.51 | drmessano | ATA-186 has FXOs? |
| 23:22.54 | carrar | no |
| 23:22.56 | drmessano | Thought it was FXS |
| 23:22.58 | drmessano | ok |
| 23:23.02 | [TK]D-Fender | snaps |
| 23:23.16 | [TK]D-Fender | just starts swinging his ClueBat(tm) wildly at the masses |
| 23:23.38 | ekat | have fun with that :) |
| 23:23.44 | drmessano | shoots td-kender with a tranquilizer dart |
| 23:23.51 | [TK]D-Fender | takes out ekat FIRST |
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| 23:24.03 | ekat | :/ |
| 23:24.06 | giovani | drmessano: I realize a lot of people say that, about echo being a line issue -- but, at least in my situation, there was zero echo with a direct phone connected, and really bad echo once asterisk with a digium card was involved -- I went through tons of tutorials -- although it's possible I missed something I was supposed to do |
| 23:24.20 | carrar | helps drmessano wrap ship rope around TK |
| 23:24.31 | [TK]D-Fender | giovani: Like being less than completely vague :) |
| 23:24.33 | drmessano | giovani: You wont hear echo with an analog phone |
| 23:24.43 | jupeterson | does anyone know if you can still have configuration parameters in voicemail.conf if you are using odbc for voice mail storage? Does the odbc method eliminate voicemail.conf? |
| 23:24.58 | giovani | drmessano: if it's a line issue, then why? |
| 23:25.08 | giovani | [TK]D-Fender: sorry? |
| 23:25.24 | carrar | jupeterson, you still need the [general] stuff |
| 23:25.45 | drmessano | giovani: The problem is the digital card interfacing with the analog line with a not so perfect impedence and level match.. Analog phones could give a rats ass about impedence.. they can handle pretty much anything |
| 23:25.52 | jupeterson | so can I put the email settings in [general] ? |
| 23:26.01 | giovani | drmessano: I see |
| 23:26.20 | giovani | well, going 100% voip addressed my issues :) |
| 23:26.22 | giovani | and we're happy |
| 23:26.27 | carrar | if you move voicemail.conf to a db, leave the [general], [zonemessages] & [default] |
| 23:26.32 | [TK]D-Fender | giovani: No versions on anything, no models... only some "Oh I had problems at some point in the past".... |
| 23:26.55 | carrar | err move default to db |
| 23:27.09 | carrar | I don't use default so I left it |
| 23:27.28 | drmessano | giovani: Which is why you get a lot of "Well, didnt have this problem until we got this PBX.. must be the PBX".. No, the line always sucked.. you just now have something smarter on the line telling you so |
| 23:27.32 | giovani | [TK]D-Fender: I only brought it up because he was asking about buying digium hardware, I offered my (non expert) accessment of my situation when I used those cards, I have provided the model of the card, this was nearly 2 years ago, I could provide more, but I'm not troubleshooting it now, simply offering user advice |
| 23:27.57 | giovani | drmessano: that makes sense |
| 23:28.21 | [TK]D-Fender | giovani: Try and tack the word "qualified" on the end next time :) |
| 23:28.48 | giovani | sigh |
| 23:28.56 | drmessano | So when it comes to echo, how much you hear on one card vs another is not really fair unless youre comparing how well they actually try to address the issue.. which by default (no EC), they do not |
| 23:29.03 | StanManCan | so is this alot better: |
| 23:29.04 | StanManCan | http://pastebin.com/d4bd9c22c |
| 23:29.04 | drmessano | They just try to match the line and hope for the best.. |
| 23:29.23 | [TK]D-Fender | ekat: Don't be a cheap-ass. The few we've seen in here with Rhino cards have never ended well. Perhaps they have a happy and completely silent user base, but the odds are low. For others... hope their support is good... because you'll ahve little here |
| 23:29.24 | drmessano | Unless of course, its an X100P card |
| 23:29.54 | drmessano | Then its ok to say they're shitty and they echo, because if you did find out the characteristic impedence of an X100P, the chinese would have to kill you |
| 23:29.59 | giovani | drmessano: yeah, I had gone through all of the software solutions digium provided, and google surfaced, maybe a 10% improvement on echo -- it was unusuable |
| 23:30.42 | ekat | [TK]D-Fender: thanks, i'm not a cheapass. I just wanted to get the skinny on everything. You guys have been very helpful. |
| 23:30.45 | StanManCan | Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy some IP phones and not worry about the echo than buy an expensive EC card? I thought echoing was only a problem on the analog phones... |
| 23:30.55 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: exten => 2504129598,n,Goto(internal,999,1) <- bad target, the rest looks a good bit better |
| 23:30.56 | drmessano | giovani: Sounds like the lines were run direct from the telco, down the road, then routed through a big box of bare wire.. that will always do it :) |
| 23:31.01 | giovani | StanManCan: this was not for phones, this was for the trunk |
| 23:31.04 | carrar | StanManCan, yeah thats not bad, now move your phone extensions to internal and your provider to incoming |
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| 23:31.21 | drmessano | Echo has nothing to do with analog phones.. has to do with the LINE |
| 23:31.22 | giovani | drmessano: when we moved to our new location -- we just went 100% voip |
| 23:31.26 | carrar | StanManCan, you also need to add outbound to your internal extensions |
| 23:31.41 | carrar | include perhaps |
| 23:31.43 | StanManCan | thanks for pointing that out, i forgot to make the 999 extension in "internal" for handling the extensions |
| 23:32.07 | [TK]D-Fender | ekat: for my $0.02 I only use Sangoma cards and many in here do the same. Either Digium or Sangoma will ensure you have a wide range of people who can support you in addition to manufacturer's support. |
| 23:32.12 | drmessano | IP phones with analog cards will hear echo is there is echo on the line |
| 23:32.21 | StanManCan | carrar: so in the internal context I just add "include => outbound" |
| 23:32.23 | StanManCan | ?? |
| 23:32.25 | drmessano | if * |
| 23:32.26 | carrar | yeah |
| 23:32.44 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: NO |
| 23:33.00 | [TK]D-Fender | StanManCan: Your phones should point to a context that INCLUDE's internal & outbound |
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| 23:34.09 | StanManCan | okay, so then i'll make a context [phones] that has include => incoming include => outbound |
| 23:34.18 | StanManCan | and then i assign each user in the iax.conf to that context? |
| 23:34.19 | carrar | that works too |
| 23:36.10 | StanManCan | but the voipms user still poitns to incoming ? |
| 23:36.18 | carrar | yeah |
| 23:36.47 | StanManCan | ...sorry... the [phones] context would include internal and outbound, not incoming |
| 23:37.07 | carrar | You can include incoming |
| 23:37.18 | carrar | so that you don't dialout if you are dialing your own number |
| 23:37.21 | StanManCan | i don't need to though becuase everything incoming gets auto passed to internal does it not ? |
| 23:37.38 | StanManCan | incoming just takes the external call and passes it to the internal context.. |
| 23:40.41 | carrar | cept that it has to match 1st |
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| 23:42.13 | StanManCan | so far it all works... :) |
| 23:42.28 | Zippoman | Hey guys |
| 23:42.58 | StanManCan | wow |
| 23:43.06 | StanManCan | thanks everybody... it's all smooth now. |
| 23:43.33 | StanManCan | thanks for helpign me with the multi-contexts. I read the chapter and went through it a few times but didn't really grasp the concept as well i guess. I can tell this way will be alot more secure already |
| 23:43.33 | jbot | pas de quoi, StanManCan |
| 23:43.51 | Zippoman | who wants a job...? $1000+ pm me |
| 23:44.12 | carrar | $1000/hr ? |
| 23:44.27 | sipy | to do what? |
| 23:44.47 | carrar | I need someone to build a retaining wall |
| 23:45.22 | sipy | do the work and then I pay you.... |
| 23:45.23 | Zippoman | no |
| 23:45.34 | Zippoman | pm me if you have skills with asterisk and are interested |
| 23:45.34 | sipy | I promise |
| 23:45.56 | sipy | Whats the scope of work? |
| 23:46.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Zippoman: Skillz wit a "z" y0? |
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| 23:46.10 | *** join/#asterisk WilliamK (n=noc@static-71-170-144-28.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:46.28 | carrar | m4d 31337Z0r |
| 23:47.59 | carrar | * Zippoman thanks for messaging me, I own a dairy farm and need more help in the dairy parlor |
| 23:48.03 | drmessano | "Its not "hacking" technically, since I used to work there" |
| 23:48.48 | [TK]D-Fender | LOL |
| 23:50.53 | WilliamK | umm, someone is utterly brain dead |
| 23:51.10 | WilliamK | and used to work there, and working there is worse than not working there when it comes to that |
| 23:51.45 | WilliamK | anyone that deals with security related concerns in a company is looking for "insiders" IF they're doing the proper risk assements |
| 23:51.55 | WilliamK | sometimes more so than external people |
| 23:52.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Then there's the running theory that the majoriy of hacking is an INSIDE JOB |
| 23:53.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Zippoman: So if you're canvassing for cohorts in breaking in somewhere you've worked before, please take the exit to your left. |
| 23:53.18 | WilliamK | depending on the company / industry that can be a trueful statement though |
| 23:54.24 | Zippoman | you guys are mistaken |
| 23:54.43 | Zippoman | its about web development not intrusion and hacking |
| 23:55.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Zippoman: Then you should be trolling in #apache instead :) |
| 23:55.25 | Zippoman | not exactly it involves interfacing asterisk with the web |
| 23:56.14 | WilliamK | Zippoman, there are sooo many solutions out there for that nowdays - don't re-invent the wheel |
| 23:56.42 | [TK]D-Fender | WilliamK: Nah, he's vague enought that it could mean ANYTHING |
| 23:57.25 | [TK]D-Fender | BRB |
| 23:59.05 | drmessano | I have asterisk interfacing with the web |
