IRC log for #asterisk on 20090215

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`00:22.07`	`xacatecas`	`hi guys ... is there any way to make IAX2 and SIP respond using the same IP it received a request on as the source on a response?`
`00:23.52`	`xacatecas`	`eg, machine has two IPs on eth0, 1.2.3.4 and 1.2.3.5, default route is via 1.2.3.1 src 1.2.3.4 ... now any response asterisk makes is always from 1.2.3.4 even if it received it on 1.2.3.5.`
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`00:38.37`	`jaytee`	`xacatecas, what's the bindaddress= set to in both iax.conf and sip.conf? if both are set to 0.0.0.0 both iax2 and sip should listen and respond on those addresses on their respective ports`
`00:38.59`	`jaytee`	`if you've got them set to one explicit address it'll only use that one.`
`00:39.12`	`xacatecas`	`they're both 0.0.0.0`
`00:39.30`	`xacatecas`	`jaytee, just read carefully, i've only got one default route.`
`00:40.08`	`xacatecas`	`both ips on the same interface.`
`00:40.43`	`jaytee`	`sorry, missed that when I read it the first time.`
`00:44.05`	`xacatecas`	`oh well, in this particular case I can just hack a SNAT on the recipient side ...`
`00:44.08`	`xacatecas`	`should fix it.`
`00:46.08`	`xacatecas`	`ah crap, not I only compiled nat in ... going to need mangle as snat needs to happen before routing ...`
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`01:11.29`	`fatnasty1`	`is there a function to execute a shell command?`
`01:13.06`	`fatnasty1`	`no one home?`
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`01:19.21`	`rob0`	`core show application system`
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`01:26.03`	`ccguerrero`	`I'm trying to connect a Nortel Meridian option 11 with digium T1 hardware`
`01:26.15`	`ccguerrero`	`can anyone help me with this?`
`01:27.29`	`ccguerrero`	`where should I ask?`
`01:27.50`	`andresmujica1`	`it's almost straightforward.`
`01:28.22`	`ccguerrero`	`but i didn't see an r45 canle`
`01:28.26`	`ccguerrero`	`cable`
`01:28.28`	`andresmujica1`	`sadly don't have the details here, some configs at the meridian side, at voip-info there's a link to a pdf now missing`
`01:28.38`	`ccguerrero`	`or bnc connectors`
`01:28.39`	`andresmujica1`	`balun`
`01:28.49`	`andresmujica1`	`75 ohms to 120ohms`
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`01:28.57`	`andresmujica1`	`u need one.`
`01:29.18`	`ccguerrero`	`but what is the type of connnector on the meridian?`
`01:29.24`	`ccguerrero`	`i know`
`01:29.32`	`andresmujica1`	`http://microlink.com.co/balunsypaneles/unidadgenerica.htm`
`01:29.37`	`andresmujica1`	`bnc`
`01:29.47`	`ccguerrero`	`thx`
`01:29.53`	`andresmujica1`	`at least the one that i've connected to`
`01:30.15`	`andresmujica1`	`it was cabled to a bnc connectors panel.`
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`01:31.39`	`ccguerrero`	`so, should it be connected to a bnc panel`
`01:31.55`	`ccguerrero`	`not to the nortel directly?`
`01:34.25`	`andresmujica1`	`hmm probably yes, it depends on how is wired your meridian.`
`01:34.56`	`andresmujica1`	`the best way is a fixed panel to avoid damaging the meridian with static and unnecessary manipulatiosn`
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`01:39.57`	`xacatecas`	`fatnasty1, System()?`
`01:51.20`	`xacatecas`	`ok ... any ideas ... set up is this: [srv-1] = 2 iBurst connections => { inet } => srv (2 IPs on same subnet)`
`01:51.52`	`xacatecas`	`now, routing on srv-1 is set up to send packeets to IP1 on srv over ib1, and to IP2 on srv over ib2.`
`01:52.24`	`xacatecas`	`srv always responds with source IP of IP1 ... this causes problems (rp_filter is switched off)`
`01:52.51`	`xacatecas`	`any ideas on working around the fact that asterisk can't match packets coming back from IP1 that it sent to IP2 ?`
`01:53.56`	`*** join/#asterisk BeeBuu (n=beebuu@125.95.196.142)`
`01:54.47`	`BeeBuu`	`i want using ldap in asterisk,which package that i need install?`
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`02:03.03`	`fatnasty1`	`I am trying to set up 911, when i place the test call I get this error: Got SIP response 500 "Nice try" back from "peers ip addr"`
`02:10.08`	`Qwell`	`fatnasty1: call your ITSP and/or read the contract (specifically the part that says they don't offer 911 services)`
`02:10.33`	`fatnasty1`	`Qwell: im with voicepulse, and they do offer e911`
`02:10.41`	`Qwell`	`then call them`
`02:12.34`	`drmessano`	`BeeBuu: ldapd`
`02:13.05`	`*** join/#asterisk MaliutaLap (n=biteme@203.171.195.133)`
`02:13.11`	`loather`	`slapd you mean :)`
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`02:22.12`	`pazof`	`ast_func_write: Function LANGUAGE not registered <<< why ??`
`02:23.46`	`pazof`	`why not in fact`
`02:27.23`	`BeeBuu`	`drmessano: i mean how can i find message from ldapd`
`02:27.40`	`drmessano`	`Um what?`
`02:29.07`	`*** join/#asterisk eppigy (n=Dave@plasticlobster.com)`
`02:29.10`	`eppigy`	`hello`
`02:29.12`	`eppigy`	`i am dave`
`02:29.16`	`drmessano`	`EFF OFF DAVE`
`02:29.20`	`BeeBuu`	`drmessano: i had setup a ldap server & i had some ldap skills,but i don't know how to connect the ldap server & get values under asterisk.`
`02:29.50`	`drmessano`	`<BeeBuu> i want using ldap in asterisk,which package that i need install?`
`02:29.59`	`drmessano`	`Thats far from "how do I use"`
`02:30.03`	`eppigy`	`lets be good friends drmessano`
`02:30.17`	`drmessano`	`eppigy: I could not agree more`
`02:30.24`	`eppigy`	`good`
`02:30.24`	`drmessano`	`s/agree/disagree/`
`02:30.28`	`eppigy`	`it is settles then`
`02:30.31`	`eppigy`	`o`
`02:30.35`	`BeeBuu`	`drmessano: any suggestion?`
`02:30.35`	`eppigy`	`:[`
`02:30.38`	`eppigy`	`you got me`
`02:30.41`	`drmessano`	`hah`
`02:30.44`	`drmessano`	`Yes I did`
`02:30.53`	`drmessano`	`BeeBuu: ~book`
`02:31.01`	`drmessano`	`s/~book/google/`
`02:31.11`	`drmessano`	`SEDMASTA B`
`02:31.32`	`eppigy`	`BeeBuu: read about the federal exchange act`
`02:31.36`	`eppigy`	`while you are reading`
`02:31.37`	`drmessano`	`pwns all the bitches`
`02:31.43`	`drmessano`	`s/bitches/ho's`
`02:31.45`	`drmessano`	`s/bitches/ho's/`
`02:31.51`	`drmessano`	`Screw it`
`02:31.59`	`eppigy`	`bitches, hoes, and tricks`
`02:32.01`	`drmessano`	`~~~~~~~~`
`02:32.02`	`jbot`	`You know, this got old a long time ago.`
`02:32.04`	`eppigy`	`chickenheads`
`02:32.13`	`eppigy`	`slunts`
`02:32.44`	`drmessano`	`I was hanging out at a waffle house one night, giving one of the waitresses shit.. She goes and gets a mop to do a little tidyup`
`02:32.56`	`drmessano`	`I said "Look at that.. two tools in one.. a mop and a ho"`
`02:32.58`	`BeeBuu`	`if google can fix anything,so why this room here?`
`02:33.06`	`eppigy`	`spot on`
`02:33.19`	`drmessano`	`BeeBuu: Why is that even relevant?`
`02:33.25`	`drmessano`	`"Because"?`
`02:34.00`	`drmessano`	`Anyway`
`02:34.26`	`eppigy`	`i like to eat in waffle house`
`02:35.02`	`Qwell`	`BeeBuu: if nobody reads books and documentation, why have them?`
`02:35.58`	`eppigy`	`an excellent counter-argument`
`02:35.58`	`drmessano`	`Qwell`
`02:35.58`	`BeeBuu`	`Qwell: some things beyond me or other readers~~~`
`02:36.13`	`drmessano`	`How does jingle.conf and gtalk.conf differ?`
`02:36.25`	`Qwell`	`drmessano: diff -u jingle.conf gtalk.conf`
`02:36.30`	`drmessano`	`Example file is the same, it seems.`
`02:36.35`	`Qwell`	`there you go`
`02:36.36`	`MikeJ`	`Qwell: reading is for the educated, I just want to make a phone company and make lots of money :D`
`02:36.53`	`xacatecas`	`how difficult will it be to modify asterisk's chan_sip and chan_iax to use sendfrom() to send udp packets from the IP on which the channel (request?) was originally received?`
`02:36.59`	`drmessano`	`How does jingle.conf and gtalk.conf differ to asterisk since they seem to do the same fucking thing?`
`02:37.15`	`Qwell`	`drmessano: they don't do the same thing`
`02:37.23`	`Qwell`	`one configures gtalk, one configures jingle`
`02:37.34`	`drmessano`	`gtalk and jingle are the same`
`02:37.46`	`Qwell`	`not really`
`02:37.48`	`BeeBuu`	`Qwell: maybe you are smart to fix anything by reading~~~~~ maybe someone are not,like me~~~`
`02:37.56`	`drmessano`	`Um ok`
`02:38.06`	`Qwell`	`BeeBuu: But you aren't fixing anything. You're looking where to place values. The documentation tells you all of that.`
`02:38.32`	`eppigy`	`either be smart or have the money to pay for instrcution`
`02:38.44`	`eppigy`	`instruction`
`02:38.46`	`drmessano`	`So jingle is implemented in Asterisk per the RFC and there is a clear cut variance in how it's implemented in reference to Googles modifications as "gtalk"?`
`02:38.55`	`BeeBuu`	`Qwell: would you teach me which is the ldap function names in asterisk?`
`02:39.26`	`Qwell`	`drmessano: yes, gtalk wasn't implemented according to the jingle spec`
`02:39.27`	`jaytee`	`BeeBuu, why not look them up yourself in the Appendices of the book?`
`02:39.33`	`Qwell`	`it may now match, but it did not initially`
`02:39.34`	`drmessano`	`Ok`
`02:40.28`	`BeeBuu`	`jaytee: i find nothing~~~~`
`02:41.19`	`eppigy`	`bro`
`02:41.23`	`eppigy`	`what's the deal`
`02:43.38`	`BeeBuu`	`jaytee: appendix A,B,C,D,E,F,G, which one?`
`02:45.15`	`BeeBuu`	`jaytee: i only find A LDAP word in whole book ,page 232`
`02:45.31`	`BeeBuu`	`~~book`
`02:45.41`	`jaytee`	`BeeBuu, darn, looks like they left that one out :-(`
`02:45.51`	`jaytee`	`did ya try the WIKI?`
`02:46.21`	`jaytee`	`there are PERL libraries for it to use with Asterisk if you don't mind using AGI`
`02:48.12`	`BeeBuu`	`jaytee: i did. cause i done by my AGI application, is there any better way like funtion in asterisk?`
`02:50.21`	`BeeBuu`	`anyone try LDAP in *?`
`02:51.26`	`jaytee`	`BeeBuu, no not in the release version or the CSV but there is a third party addon, http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+LDAPget`
`02:54.18`	`BeeBuu`	`jaytee: thanks. any way without compiling?`
`02:54.36`	`eppigy`	`what`
`02:54.59`	`jaytee`	`BeeBuu, nope but you shouldn't be afraid of compiling if you wanna run with the big dogs. Don't be a wuss!!!`
`02:55.13`	`eppigy`	`compiling is the only way`
`02:55.22`	`eppigy`	`unless you are getting precompiled binaries`
`02:55.25`	`eppigy`	`for mysql`
`02:55.31`	`eppigy`	`intel cc`
`02:55.48`	`jaytee`	`Packaging is for Windows users/admins that can't find their ass with both hands and a hunting dog.`
`02:56.17`	`eppigy`	`BeeBuu's is located in his facial region`
`02:56.23`	`eppigy`	`from what I understand`
`02:56.50`	`BeeBuu`	`wuss?`
`02:57.07`	`eppigy`	`dont be a coward`
`02:57.14`	`eppigy`	`Is what he's saying`
`02:58.11`	`BeeBuu`	`jaytee: OK.i will try. thanks to all. have a nice day.`
`02:59.08`	`eppigy`	`god speed my friend`
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`03:00.19`	`jaytee`	`and regards to Captain Dunsel`
`03:01.09`	`eppigy`	`that noy lives inside his heart`
`03:01.11`	`eppigy`	`boy`
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`03:01.58`	`BeeBuu`	`Captain Dunsel?`
`03:02.20`	`eppigy`	`BeeBuu: thats a mighty big place to live when youre just a boy`
`03:12.24`	`jaytee`	`Captain Dunsel was what another starship captain called James T. Kirk in an episode where control of the Enterprise was turned over to M-5, an artificial intelligence computer that controlled the whole ship but it was flawed and started attacking other Federation ships. A Dunsel is a midshipman's slang from the Star Fleet Academy for a part that serves no useful purpose.`
`03:13.14`	`rob0`	`is now known as Dunsel`
`03:13.26`	`jaytee`	`:-)`
`03:13.26`	`*** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir)`
`03:13.47`	`eppigy`	`project pat`
`03:13.51`	`eppigy`	`is very under rated`
`03:14.04`	`jaytee`	`I nicknamed the pci slot covers on pc's that accumulate in my workbench drawer at work dunsels.`
`03:14.20`	`jaytee`	`project pat?`
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`03:18.48`	`xacatecas`	`hi, what can be done to prevent asthostid (as used by g729) from changing?`
`03:19.20`	`xacatecas`	`is there any way I can inform it which ethernet device to use because it seems to be dependent on in which order the kernel initializes the devices ...`
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`03:21.12`	`CrashHD`	`anyone know why with 1.4.22, even with dahdi_dummy loaded I get: "No DAHDI channel available for conference, user introduction disabled" when using the i option with app_meetme?`
`03:21.54`	`eppigy`	`lsmod \| grep dahdi`
`03:22.14`	`CrashHD`	`dahdi_dummy 7244 0`
`03:22.14`	`CrashHD`	`dahdi 186792 19 dahdi_dummy`
`03:22.14`	`CrashHD`	`crc_ccitt 6144 1 dahdi`
`03:22.31`	`eppigy`	`then I do not know`
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`03:24.40`	`xacatecas`	`ls -l /dev/dahdi ?`
`03:25.52`	`CrashHD`	`crw-rw---- 1 root root 196, 254 Dec 20 19:17 channel`
`03:25.52`	`CrashHD`	`crw-rw---- 1 root root 196, 0 Dec 20 19:17 ctl`
`03:25.52`	`CrashHD`	`crw-rw---- 1 root root 196, 255 Dec 20 19:17 pseudo`
`03:25.52`	`CrashHD`	`crw-rw---- 1 root root 196, 253 Dec 20 19:17 timer`
`03:27.51`	`xacatecas`	`is asterisk running as root ?`
`03:28.25`	`xacatecas`	`mine is owned asterisk:dialout`
`03:28.50`	`xacatecas`	`for udev:`
`03:28.52`	`xacatecas`	`# DAHDI devices with ownership/permissions for running as non-root`
`03:28.52`	`xacatecas`	`SUBSYSTEM=="dahdi", OWNER="asterisk", GROUP="dialout", MODE="0660"`
`03:29.24`	`CrashHD`	`ya root`
`03:29.33`	`xacatecas`	`you sure?`
`03:29.41`	`CrashHD`	`positive`
`03:30.02`	`drmessano`	`YouTube needs more Neil Diamond`
`03:30.06`	`drmessano`	`Im just sayin`
`03:30.09`	`xacatecas`	`you sure you're not passing -U to it?`
`03:30.14`	`CrashHD`	`pid 3224 is root`
`03:30.19`	`CrashHD`	`whic is the asterisk instance`
`03:30.20`	`xacatecas`	`is getting really, really tired now.`
`03:30.30`	`xacatecas`	`ok ...`
`03:30.32`	`CrashHD`	`ya positive`
`03:30.34`	`CrashHD`	`-C -g -f`
`03:30.41`	`CrashHD`	`are the switches I'm sending`
`03:31.11`	`CrashHD`	`dahdi show status shows the HRTimer`
`03:31.17`	`xacatecas`	`wants to know how the g729 licensing thing determines the hostid.`
`03:31.27`	`xacatecas`	`then it should be fine.`
`03:31.35`	`CrashHD`	`yes, hence my confusion lol`
`03:32.17`	`drmessano`	`I thought g7209 goes by the MAC`
`03:32.19`	`drmessano`	`G729`
`03:32.37`	`*** join/#asterisk russellb (n=russell@asterisk/digium-open-source-team-lead/russellb)`
`03:32.43`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o russellb] by ChanServ`
`03:33.55`	`CrashHD`	`yes, mac, that is what I thought`
`03:34.05`	`CrashHD`	`hey russel, I'm having some issues with option i`
`03:34.36`	`CrashHD`	`I see file made some code change having to do with the pseudo channel, know anything abou tit?`
`03:35.30`	`file`	`is chan_dahdi loaded?`
`03:35.36`	`CrashHD`	`ya`
`03:35.42`	`Qwell`	`option i? in menuselect?`
`03:35.44`	`CrashHD`	`status shows HRtimer`
`03:35.54`	`CrashHD`	`i' -- announce user join/leave with review`
`03:36.00`	`file`	`CrashHD: status where?`
`03:36.06`	`russellb`	`i have no idea what you guys are talking about`
`03:36.13`	`CrashHD`	`dahdi show status`
`03:36.20`	`CrashHD`	`show dahdi_dummy`
`03:36.24`	`CrashHD`	`and HRTimer as source`
`03:38.06`	`file`	`and dahdi show channels shows a pseudo channel?`
`03:38.07`	`*** join/#asterisk Assuero (n=assuero@189.104.168.71)`
`03:38.25`	`CrashHD`	`no it does not`
`03:38.30`	`Assuero`	`hi guys`
`03:38.31`	`file`	`that would be why`
`03:38.33`	`CrashHD`	`when system is idle`
`03:38.46`	`CrashHD`	`how would I get the pseudo channel to load?`
`03:38.51`	`file`	`do you have a chan_dahdi.conf file in /etc/asterisk ?`
`03:39.02`	`CrashHD`	`ya but super basic`
`03:39.08`	`CrashHD`	`might be missing the trigger config`
`03:39.21`	`prg3`	`I'm trying to get a Local working as an agent target, but I'm getting Invalid on the queue show:`
`03:39.24`	`prg3`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:39.24`	`CrashHD`	`let me double check that though`
`03:39.36`	`prg3`	`Is that Invalid meaningful?`
`03:39.54`	`Assuero`	`anybody use sata disc's with asterisk?`
`03:40.05`	`CrashHD`	`hey look there`
`03:40.10`	`CrashHD`	`was missing the conf file`
`03:40.18`	`prg3`	`Assuero: my Asterisk server has Sata disks if that's what you are asking..`
`03:40.21`	`CrashHD`	`thanks file`
`03:40.25`	`file`	`create a blank one, restart Asterisk, pseudo channel will exist and the 'i' option will work`
`03:40.48`	`CrashHD`	`perfect`
`03:40.49`	`CrashHD`	`works`
`03:41.13`	`Assuero`	`prg3 at my job the asterisk crash after a month or two months`
`03:41.13`	`file`	`prg3: it usually means that modules loaded automatically and chan_local loaded *before pbx_config, and since pbx_config brings your dialplan into existence... the dialplan did not exist at that time and so chan_local said that line was invalid`
`03:41.31`	`Assuero`	`i need shutdown server.. and after few seconds, start him again`
`03:41.37`	`file`	`prg3: putting load lines into modules.conf with an order of pbx_config.so and then chan_local.so should make it work fine, a reload should also cure that immediately`
`03:41.51`	`CrashHD`	`Assuero: preload chan_local then pbx_ config`
`03:41.59`	`Assuero`	`hmm`
`03:42.08`	`file`	`Assuero: tons of people use SATA disks`
`03:43.31`	`Assuero`	`this happen with other applications then we use at my job, like systems of record calls`
`03:44.06`	`Assuero`	`the discs sata, down after few days up.. we need shutdown the computer`
`03:44.35`	`Assuero`	`we think of this can be shoud a problem of sata technology`
`03:45.00`	`Assuero`	`because this happen with many machines.. no is only asterisk server`
`03:45.53`	`xacatecas`	`hi, why would the asthostid change (for g729) on the same hardware?`
`03:46.49`	`prg3`	`file: did that, restarted, same thing.. what do I need in Extensions.conf for local to behave? just a NXXXXXXX in [default]?`
`03:46.53`	`loather`	`if your mac address somehow changed that would happen`
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`03:48.29`	`Assuero`	`CrashHD, prg3 and file: its can be a problem of configuration?`
`03:48.41`	`drmessano`	`Assuero: Shitty SATA controller, perhaps`
`03:48.43`	`Assuero`	`I suggest change sata disc`
`03:48.45`	`prg3`	`Assuero: if it's Linux crashing, then it's a Linux problem..`
`03:48.45`	`drmessano`	`or you're using crap drives`
`03:49.06`	`Assuero`	`no.. the mainboard`
`03:49.10`	`xacatecas`	`loather, same machine ?`
`03:49.28`	`xacatecas`	`onboard card + quad-port pci...`
`03:49.33`	`drmessano`	`What does it being on the MAINBOARD have to do with anything?`
`03:49.56`	`CrashHD`	`prg3: make sure you are using /n`
`03:50.02`	`CrashHD`	`for your local channels in your queues.conf`
`03:50.14`	`loather`	`xacatecas: did your ethernet ordering change`
`03:50.15`	`loather`	`?`
`03:50.17`	`loather`	`new kernel?`
`03:50.19`	`Assuero`	`she no know the disk`
`03:50.20`	`loather`	`new udev?`
`03:50.29`	`prg3`	`CrashHD: no channels in queues.conf, they are dynamic agents`
`03:50.32`	`CrashHD`	`and I had to make sure to preload local module then preload pbx module`
`03:50.37`	`Assuero`	`the mainboard no know the disk after a few days`
`03:50.37`	`CrashHD`	`you preloading?`
`03:50.40`	`xacatecas`	`loather, no, the onboard is still ethlan, and the quad-port is still ethiburst0-3.`
`03:50.57`	`xacatecas`	`i did recompile the kernel a few times to get updated iptables ...`
`03:50.58`	`drmessano`	`Assuero: Ok, either a linux problem or the mainboard has a crappy SATA controller`
`03:51.02`	`prg3`	`CrashHD: preload chan_local is the first load in the file. there was no pbx_config load at all..`
`03:51.16`	`xacatecas`	`just please, please, please tell me that upgrading the kernel won't kill it?`
`03:51.25`	`xacatecas`	`same udev.`
`03:51.27`	`MikeJ`	`file: you broke it?`
`03:51.35`	`file`	`MikeJ: always!`
`03:51.45`	`MikeJ`	`me too`
`03:51.46`	`file`	`prg3: do pbx_config.so then chan_local.so`
`03:51.50`	`loather`	`xacatecas: upgrading the kernel probably won't kill it. what upgrading the kernel might do though is change your ordering because drivers are loaded in a different order`
`03:51.58`	`CrashHD`	`prg3: for whatever reason I had to preload => chan_local.so then next line preload => pbx_config.so`
`03:52.04`	`drmessano`	`file: she no know the whole pbx`
`03:52.11`	`file`	`unless you are using AEL`
`03:52.13`	`drmessano`	`file: DANCE`
`03:52.22`	`xacatecas`	`loather, that does make sense ... ie, try compiling them as modules and loading in different order might fix it...`
`03:52.24`	`loather`	`it looks like you're doing a lot of ifrename stuff -- which is fine, but asterisk will always use the first ethernet adapter when determining the MAC address`
`03:52.38`	`loather`	`the first one detected by the kernel, that is`
`03:53.05`	`drmessano`	`thinks she no know, but she likes it`
`03:53.11`	`xacatecas`	`ok ... how many times can I re-register a license again?`
`03:53.19`	`drmessano`	`3?`
`03:53.28`	`loather`	`dunno, that's a digium question :)`
`03:53.35`	`xacatecas`	`pfft, ok, well, here goes nothing.`
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`03:53.50`	`loather`	`since you have licenses, you could always use one of the unlicensed codecs out there (like at asterisk.hosting.lv) and use it instead`
`03:54.14`	`loather`	`you bought the RTUs, anyways`
`03:54.29`	`prg3`	`CrashHD/file: No change.. I just tried manually setting it to Zap/g2, so everything around it should be working..`
`03:54.39`	`xacatecas`	`loather, thanks for the advice.`
`03:54.52`	`CrashHD`	`prg3: I remember running in to this same problem a few weeks ago`
`03:55.01`	`CrashHD`	`trying to recall what I did to correct other than preload, if anything`
`03:55.21`	`prg3`	`CrashHD: what needs to be in extensions.conf to make Local/ behave?`
`03:55.30`	`xacatecas`	`WARNING: this is the last time the Host-ID is allowed to change for this key.`
`03:55.31`	`CrashHD`	`as far as what?`
`03:55.34`	`xacatecas`	`drmessano, ie, 2.`
`03:55.43`	`CrashHD`	`Local is a channel construct`
`03:55.47`	`prg3`	`CrashHD: I'm not sure, do I just need the exten => line?`
`03:55.59`	`CrashHD`	`Local is just like SIP/ or IAX/`
`03:56.18`	`prg3`	`exten => NXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(zap/s2) ; Call outbound`
`03:56.19`	`CrashHD`	`http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+Local+channels`
`03:56.32`	`CrashHD`	`that isn't a local channel?`
`03:57.12`	`file`	`prg3: you forgot _ at the beginning to indicate it is a pattern match`
`03:57.38`	`CrashHD`	`silly file, patterns are for kids`
`03:57.46`	`CrashHD`	`hands preg3 a box of trix`
`03:58.00`	`russellb`	`~tickle file`
`03:58.01`	`jbot`	`ACTION jumps on file, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"`
`03:58.06`	`CrashHD`	`hah`
`03:58.10`	`drmessano`	`http://www.digium.com/en/docs/G729/g729policy.php`
`03:58.11`	`CrashHD`	`runs away from jbot`
`03:58.12`	`file`	`russellb: you sir.... are silly`
`03:58.25`	`russellb`	`swizzles around`
`03:58.35`	`Assuero`	`guys, very thank's ok?`
`03:58.51`	`prg3`	`file: still invalid.. should I be adding @context when I register the Local/`
`03:58.54`	`Assuero`	`I will read more about these problem happening at my job...`
`03:58.54`	`CrashHD`	`how do some of the unlicensed g729 hold up against digiums in terms of quality/performance?`
`03:58.58`	`drmessano`	`Assuero: If that is a question, the answer is "no"`
`03:59.12`	`file`	`prg3: yes`
`03:59.19`	`Assuero`	`drmessano :)`
`03:59.26`	`drmessano`	`CrashHD: I've heard the Digium codec is much better`
`03:59.50`	`CrashHD`	`drmessano interesting`
`04:00.02`	`drmessano`	`CrashHD: In terms of CPU overhead, IIRC`
`04:00.17`	`coppice`	`the unlicenced G.729 is the best that Intel can achieve with their own processors, whatever that means :-\`
`04:00.23`	`prg3`	`file: still claiming Invalid..`
`04:01.09`	`loather`	`the unlicensed g729 is about the same quality. i couldn't tell any difference.`
`04:01.16`	`loather`	`as far as cpu overhead, i didn't measure that`
`04:01.17`	`drmessano`	`Luckily, I am moving all my servers to Sealand`
`04:01.34`	`drmessano`	`So the G729 IP holders can suck the big one`
`04:01.40`	`CrashHD`	`hah`
`04:02.27`	`drmessano`	`I wonder if the Pirate Bay uses G729, or if they respect the licensing`
`04:03.02`	`loather`	`alls i know is i can get >50 concurrent g729 calls on a single-core 32-bit P4 without any problems on the unlicensed codecs`
`04:03.11`	`loather`	`(yes, i own licenses :D)`
`04:03.44`	`drmessano`	`files that away with "I only use it in my lab"`
`04:04.07`	`loather`	`i can show you the order receipt. really :)`
`04:04.23`	`CrashHD`	`hah go go gadget pirate bay`
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`04:04.37`	`CrashHD`	`loather, not a bad deal`
`04:04.41`	`drmessano`	`I can show you some handcuffs, redbeard`
`04:04.50`	`loather`	`teh beard's black, actually`
`04:05.23`	`drmessano`	`Yeah, as will your buttery cornhole after rotting in G729 prison`
`04:05.32`	`drmessano`	`Where all the phone calls are GSM`
`04:05.33`	`loather`	`hahaha`
`04:05.40`	`ccguerrero`	`prg3:I have seen this error if the contex does not exist`
`04:05.41`	`loather`	`64kbps noooo!`
`04:06.50`	`loather`	`holyshit whoa. completely off-topic and unrelated. but i just had a vacuum tube explode in my preamp.`
`04:07.05`	`CrashHD`	`g729 gods strike you down!`
`04:07.07`	`prg3`	`ccguerrero: context now exists..`
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`04:07.31`	`loather`	`yeah, i've seen tubes go bad and the filaments burn out or whatever`
`04:07.36`	`loather`	`but i've never had one explode`
`04:08.41`	`ccguerrero`	`prg3: log the agent out an back in`
`04:09.08`	`drmessano`	`Explode?`
`04:09.20`	`drmessano`	`I've never seen a tube explode`
`04:09.22`	`prg3`	`ccguerrero: done, restarted asterisk as well, no change`
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`04:10.25`	`Kobaz`	`so why would the polycom tx volume when on speakerphone be less than half the volume of using a headset/handset`
`04:11.41`	`ccguerrero`	`prg3: exten => s,n,AddQueueMember(${ARG1},Local/${CALLERID(num)}@agent/n,,j)`
`04:12.35`	`loather`	`yeah, i heard a pop and the meter went off the scale and all i got was buzzing from it`
`04:12.43`	`prg3`	`exten => 54,n,AddQueueMember(adultq\|Local/${CALLERID(num)}@default)`
`04:12.53`	`loather`	`took it apart and the glass is shattered all over the inside`
`04:15.04`	`prg3`	`ccguerrero: doesn't change anything on it..`
`04:15.08`	`ccguerrero`	`prg3: you are missing /n as somebody stated before`
`04:15.29`	`prg3`	`ccguerrero: added, no change.`
`04:16.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: what * are you using?`
`04:16.39`	`prg3`	`Asterisk 1.4.17~dfsg-2ubuntu1`
`04:17.51`	`De_Mon`	`I just upgraded to 1.6.0.3 and my IAX -> SIP/tcp dialplan gives me errors now`
`04:17.52`	`De_Mon`	`http://pastebin.com/d6b870a5e`
`04:18.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: pastebin what's going on`
`04:19.41`	`Talkradio`	`hope everyone got laid today :))`
`04:19.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon: pastebin your peer setup`
`04:20.09`	`drmessano`	`No, but my wallet got screwed`
`04:20.10`	`prg3`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/m71b0d8d8 is the show queue..`
`04:20.13`	`Talkradio`	`haha`
`04:20.29`	`De_Mon`	`http://pastebin.com/m251d526`
`04:20.43`	`Talkradio`	`they were selling flowers and gifts at almsot every damn corner around here`
`04:20.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: and your dialplan`
`04:21.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon: type=friend <- should be peer.`
`04:21.35`	`prg3`	`http://pastebin.com/m7aa6f3f0`
`04:21.58`	`De_Mon`	`raises an eyebrow`
`04:22.02`	`prg3`	`not complete, if you want complete, I'll rsync the whole directory to a web tree somewhere`
`04:23.21`	`De_Mon`	`changed it to peer and reloaded sip.conf and still get the same error`
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`04:24.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: exten => _NXXXXXXXX,1,Dial(zap/s2) ; Call outbound <-- count your PATTERN LENGTHS next time`
`04:24.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: Local/780NNNNNNN@default/n (dynamic) (Invalid) has taken no calls yet`
`04:24.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: You;re short`
`04:24.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon: enable SIP debug and try again.`
`04:25.10`	`De_Mon`	`thats with sip debug turned on. my guess is it's not even trying to generate a packet`
`04:25.21`	`prg3`	`[TK]D-Fender: Thanks! first time anyone's called me short though..`
`04:25.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: TK = Tall Killer :)`
`04:27.26`	`De_Mon`	`hang on, this might be something it appeared on the concole after I went into scrollback mode`
`04:28.20`	`De_Mon`	`no its just exchange12 sending a registration`
`04:28.30`	`prg3`	`[TK]D-Fender: I'm missing something after the Zap/g2 as well?`
`04:28.52`	`prg3`	`and s2 should be g2..`
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`04:30.10`	`prg3`	`.. and I need to change it so it doesn't bridge the queue caller to the agent until the agent answers..`
`04:30.38`	`prg3`	`.. and there is a whole lot of noise when the call bridges, any ideas where noise might be coming from?`
`04:31.26`	`De_Mon`	`definately no packets leaving the pbx on that call attempt`
`04:34.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: Whatever noise you get thats the interface's doing`
`04:34.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon: dump your peer...`
`04:34.40`	`prg3`	`[TK]D-Fender: K.. it's strange, both interfaces are clean, but noisy when bridged`
`04:34.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon: and look at the registration attempt. It should be registering, you set a fixed host <-`
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`04:38.07`	`De_Mon`	`I just restarted the old 1.6.0 build from 10/11/2008 and the those configs work swimmingly, so something between then and this 1.6.0.3 build has changed >_<`
`04:38.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`De_Mon: 1.6.0.3? upgrade...`
`04:39.58`	`russellb`	`try 1.6.0.6-rc1`
`04:41.04`	`De_Mon`	`alrighty, let me give that a shot.`
`04:41.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`sharpens his "bleeding edge" and smirks at De_Mon`
`04:41.31`	`De_Mon`	`I must admit that i'm starting to become partial to this 2008 build that just works :P`
`04:42.57`	`russellb`	`and if it still doesn't work, a report on bugs.digium.com would be much appreciated`
`04:44.15`	`De_Mon`	`ooh, I see why I didn't get the latest build now. Yeah, the whole reason I'm upgrading is because of another bug that the bug marshal wants me to re-test against something recent.`
`04:49.31`	`prg3`	`[TK]D-Fender: Any thoughts on where the noise might be coming from with this output? http://pastebin.com/m410e95e6`
`04:50.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: What card?`
`04:50.44`	`prg3`	`Sangoma A200`
`04:51.00`	`prg3`	`that's bridged on the same card.. I have 2 cards in the machine`
`04:52.40`	`loather`	`prg3: if the signal path is pure digital check and see if the signal is being transcoded multiple times`
`04:52.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`prg3: PB your zapata.conf and confirm your version #'s`
`04:53.01`	`loather`	`from pri it'll be ulaw, so if it's ulaw -> gsm -> ulaw you'll lose quality for sure`
`04:53.15`	`prg3`	`loather: both analog ports`
`04:53.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`loather: CRAZY TALK`
`04:53.25`	`prg3`	`it's not quality loss, it's noise..`
`04:53.33`	`loather`	`oh analog.`
`04:53.39`	`loather`	`yeah, that's another boat altogether`
`04:54.21`	`loather`	`fluorescent lamps, shitty cables, unterminated wire pairs, ... lots of stuff can cause analog noise`
`04:54.45`	`prg3`	`[TK]D-Fender: I just noticed that I didn't fix my insane gains from the other day, I just set that back and rebooted the box (excessive)..`
`04:54.53`	`loather`	`anything that emits RF (read: switch-mode PSU found in most computers)`
`04:55.28`	`prg3`	`loather: it's only noisy when the 2 channels are bridged..`
`04:55.47`	`loather`	`is it a 60hz buzz?`
`04:56.10`	`loather`	`and fxo or fxs?`
`04:56.39`	`prg3`	`FXO (connected to the phone company)`
`04:56.52`	`rob0`	`Effectso or effexcess`
`04:57.34`	`loather`	`what kind of noise is it? echo? hum? buzz? transients?`
`04:57.59`	`prg3`	`stupid gains.. it's gone now`
`04:58.11`	`prg3`	`probably background noise that just got kicked through the roof by bad settings`
`04:59.55`	`loather`	`i wonder what the implications of sticking a small impedance matching transformer coupled with the phone line would be`
`05:00.13`	`loather`	`eh, sangoma board probably does it internally already`
`05:00.29`	`prg3`	`probably`
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`05:08.02`	`De_Mon`	`http://pastebin.com/d56cee985`
`05:08.45`	`De_Mon`	`its a compile error using dahdi 2.1.0.4`
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`05:23.29`	`De_Mon`	`I'm getting segmentation faults loading a buncha modules (turn off one, restart and find a new one it has issues with)`
`05:24.06`	`De_Mon`	`hmmm. or maybe not`
`05:29.14`	`De_Mon`	`stupid segmentation faults`
`05:30.56`	`De_Mon`	`I'll fool with this on monday.`
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`06:15.48`	`carrar`	`WHAT`
`06:18.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`WATT`
`06:19.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`tasers carrar`
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`06:32.26`	`carrar`	`HI TK`
`06:32.30`	`carrar`	`ouch`
`06:32.31`	`carrar`	`WTF`
`06:32.42`	`carrar`	`Don't make me ware body armer in here`
`06:33.09`	`carrar`	`though it is good practive`
`06:33.11`	`carrar`	`ce`
`06:33.53`	`carrar`	`new vmware source`
`06:33.56`	`carrar`	`for osx`
`06:36.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`carrar: Armor is good... especially the nice old conductive knight's armor :)`
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`06:38.20`	`carrar`	`heh`
`06:38.22`	`carrar`	`yeah`
`06:38.38`	`carrar`	`I keep the old school stuff around just for that occasion`
`06:39.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`carrar: I keep other medieval devices around.... for other reasons :)`
`06:39.33`	`carrar`	`time to mix up some contexts!!`
`06:39.39`	`carrar`	`haha`
`06:39.50`	`carrar`	`hooks mounted 6' up the wall`
`06:42.46`	`carrar`	`YEAH`
`06:43.25`	`carrar`	`I'd like to comment on Obama chickening out of a lot of shit he promised during his compain`
`06:43.29`	`carrar`	`err`
`06:43.34`	`carrar`	`wrong channel!`
`06:43.36`	`carrar`	`haha`
`06:44.18`	`carrar`	`like it matters`
`06:51.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`#allsnailracingchannel`
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`07:05.49`	`CrashHD`	`so how is 1.6 coming along?`
`07:06.06`	`CrashHD`	`I haven't really kept up lately`
`07:06.28`	`carrar`	`It's production readY!!`
`07:06.33`	`carrar`	`We're on 1.8 now`
`07:06.50`	`CrashHD`	`you messing with me ? lol`
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`07:10.23`	`carrar`	`possibly`
`07:13.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bed time, later all`
`07:19.57`	`carrar`	`WHAT`
`07:20.00`	`carrar`	`WUSS`
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`07:42.39`	`brunner`	`${CALLERID} should be populated even before I Answer(), right?`
`07:47.38`	`Juggie`	`brunner, yes, usually :)`
`07:47.55`	`brunner`	`this is a SIP channel`
`07:48.34`	`brunner`	`well, I'm going to use AGI to write new calls to a DB. Should I call the AGI script before or after I answer?`
`07:48.40`	`brunner`	`or does it make a difference?`
`07:52.26`	`Juggie`	`well, unless you have a specific reason for writing your own records you can just use cdrs which are written after a call completes.`
`07:52.46`	`Juggie`	`none the less, from a sip channel it should not matter.`
`07:53.26`	`Juggie`	`however, you'll want to make sure your code won't block or you'll leave the call in limbo`
`07:53.46`	`brunner`	`I'm going to try to write an application that allows call screeners (queue agents in this case) to enter some data about the caller`
`07:54.39`	`brunner`	`so I'm inserting a recording into my DB table when they first call`
`07:55.02`	`Juggie`	`brunner, ic, that would work presuming you could push the agent to the webpage to enter the info.`
`07:55.07`	`Juggie`	`which is doable as well.`
`07:55.27`	`brunner`	`well, it seems kind of tricky`
`07:55.45`	`brunner`	`I was going to use AMI to watch to see which channel is connected to each agent`
`07:56.02`	`carrar`	`brinner`
`07:56.04`	`brunner`	`Command: show agents`
`07:56.05`	`carrar`	`u`
`07:56.06`	`carrar`	`hi`
`07:56.18`	`carrar`	`go to DB 1st thing`
`07:56.26`	`brunner`	`huh?`
`07:56.28`	`carrar`	`validate the number`
`07:56.40`	`carrar`	`then decide what to do`
`07:56.40`	`Juggie`	`brunner, what we do is before we connect the agent to the caller we read out a code to the agent`
`07:56.50`	`Juggie`	`the agent enters it in a gui then presses 1 to accept the call`
`07:56.57`	`brunner`	`ah`
`07:57.02`	`carrar`	`all our DIDS are in a DB table`
`07:57.23`	`carrar`	`makes it east for * not to have to parse a hugh context`
`07:57.25`	`carrar`	`easy`
`07:57.45`	`carrar`	`us agi and query`
`07:57.45`	`Juggie`	`brunner, but we do that for click-to-talk and not using asterisk queues.`
`07:57.47`	`brunner`	`carrar: why do I care what number they call?`
`07:57.55`	`carrar`	`no`
`07:57.57`	`carrar`	`not call`
`07:57.59`	`carrar`	`inbound`
`07:58.04`	`carrar`	`sorry`
`07:58.16`	`carrar`	`even outbound`
`07:58.19`	`carrar`	`use a DB`
`07:58.25`	`carrar`	`for least cost dialing`
`07:58.37`	`carrar`	`if you habe a ton of peers like we do`
`07:58.44`	`Juggie`	`carrar, hes talking about something totally non related to that.`
`07:58.53`	`brunner`	`I'm totally confused`
`07:58.57`	`Juggie`	`brunner, i would be too :)`
`07:58.58`	`carrar`	`I love jumpin the middle :)`
`07:59.06`	`carrar`	`hahah`
`07:59.15`	`carrar`	`USE RADIUS!`
`07:59.16`	`carrar`	`haha`
`07:59.22`	`carrar`	`adds crap`
`08:00.02`	`brunner`	`Juggie: I don't know how to "push" info to the web client when an agent takes a call, so I figured I would just refresh until the agent gets a call, and once they're connected, show a form for them to enter data`
`08:00.25`	`brunner`	`and then offer a button for them to transfer the caller to the next step`
`08:00.32`	`brunner`	`in this case, a meetme conference`
`08:00.47`	`brunner`	`(I'm trying to create a call screening system for radio)`
`08:01.08`	`Juggie`	`brunner, ah ic...`
`08:01.20`	`brunner`	`Juggie: if you know a better way, please let me know`
`08:01.26`	`Juggie`	`brunner, so the number of agents would be minimal?`
`08:01.34`	`brunner`	`Juggie: yeah, two or three max`
`08:03.20`	`Juggie`	`brunner, the web idea you mentioned would work, if you refreshed until you knew the agent was on a call.`
`08:03.45`	`Juggie`	`you'd have to have some way of knowing which person was on which computer and which phone/extension but its doable.`
`08:04.02`	`brunner`	`well, everyone will be logging in remotely`
`08:05.28`	`Juggie`	`hmmm.`
`08:06.10`	`Juggie`	`as long as you had the agents login via a web interface and via the phone (so you could match them up) it would work.`
`08:06.14`	`brunner`	`so "show agents" combined with the agents logging into a web interface should tell me everything I need to know`
`08:06.21`	`brunner`	`yeah`
`08:06.35`	`brunner`	`I wish there was an easier way, though =/`
`08:07.10`	`Juggie`	`not without installing something on the user machine`
`08:07.31`	`brunner`	`well, I'm open to that. what's available?`
`08:09.00`	`carrar`	`brunner, you need some custimization`
`08:09.07`	`carrar`	`beyond the normal`
`08:09.15`	`Juggie`	`i'm not too versed on call center stuff so i'm not sure :) but with a local utility you could possibly monitor the AMI (or a proxy there of) which would then receive events when the agent receives a call then forcing a web page to enter the caller information.`
`08:09.39`	`brunner`	`yeah, screw it. I'll just do the web thing.`
`08:10.01`	`Juggie`	`brunner, are the agents ip or dial in`
`08:10.07`	`brunner`	`dial in`
`08:10.20`	`brunner`	`but, again, they don't have to be`
`08:10.41`	`brunner`	`although it does seem nice that they could connect from anywhere with any phone and any web browser to screen calls`
`08:10.55`	`Juggie`	`brunner, theres no perfect solution really :) have you poked around on voip-info.org`
`08:11.02`	`brunner`	`a bit`
`08:11.11`	`brunner`	`I think I'll just do it the way I'm picturing it`
`08:11.22`	`tessier`	`voip-info.org contains everything you need to know about anything voip related`
`08:11.23`	`brunner`	`every other pre-built app out there has some shortcoming that I don't like`
`08:11.31`	`brunner`	`yeah, I've discovered that`
`08:12.06`	`Juggie`	`ya, the only problem is the double login, other then that it should be perfectally doable.`
`08:12.08`	`tessier`	`Call center stuff with * is a bit complicated but it probably works better now than when I set up my first call center with it over two years ago`
`08:12.23`	`tessier`	`I wish * were more modular and not all coded in C`
`08:12.34`	`tessier`	`This stuff would be a lot easier to deal with.`
`08:12.35`	`carrar`	`heh`
`08:12.39`	`carrar`	`C is the best`
`08:12.43`	`Juggie`	`its quite modular :) but it is in c mostly.`
`08:12.43`	`tessier`	`WTF-ever`
`08:12.45`	`carrar`	`vs assembly language`
`08:13.04`	`tessier`	`which is better than a kick in the nads`
`08:13.06`	`carrar`	`ASM would be nice`
`08:13.09`	`tessier`	`Very faint praise`
`08:13.34`	`carrar`	`shut would he faster probably`
`08:13.39`	`carrar`	`BE`
`08:13.46`	`brunner`	`in what situations will ANI be available to me?`
`08:13.52`	`tessier`	`And it isn't very modular. I really don't get why the same process that handles SIP also handles media.`
`08:13.58`	`tessier`	`I wish I were better with SER.`
`08:14.19`	`carrar`	`time`
`08:14.48`	`brunner`	`ANI is harder to spoof, right?`
`08:15.35`	`carrar`	`heh`
`08:15.56`	`carrar`	`you have a PRI?`
`08:16.27`	`brunner`	`yes, but the box this will ultimately run on will be co-located at a phone company, and I have no idea how they'll be connecting it`
`08:16.40`	`carrar`	`How many providers 'ACL' their ANI`
`08:17.02`	`brunner`	`I'm not sure what you mean`
`08:17.27`	`carrar`	`not too many people car what you send as ANI`
`08:17.30`	`carrar`	`care`
`08:17.51`	`carrar`	`as long as it's not TOLL Avoidance`
`08:17.57`	`brunner`	`I'm just looking for a reliable way to block prank callers`
`08:18.34`	`carrar`	`what what is a "prank callers" to you?`
`08:18.49`	`carrar`	`You can block whatever you want`
`08:18.54`	`brunner`	`carrar: someone who calls for the sole purpose of violating FCC rules at my expense`
`08:19.01`	`carrar`	`well`
`08:19.06`	`carrar`	`thast a voice`
`08:19.11`	`carrar`	`not a ANI`
`08:19.28`	`carrar`	`hence the 8 seocnds`
`08:19.30`	`carrar`	`or so`
`08:19.32`	`brunner`	`again, I'm not sure what you mean`
`08:19.41`	`carrar`	`8 seocnds of delay`
`08:19.45`	`brunner`	`yeah`
`08:19.46`	`carrar`	`so you can cut them off`
`08:20.04`	`brunner`	`yes, we have that, but I'm looking to prevent them from calling ever again`
`08:20.19`	`carrar`	`can you associated them to a DID?`
`08:20.33`	`brunner`	`you mean an inbound DID?`
`08:20.36`	`carrar`	`yes`
`08:20.52`	`carrar`	`create a db of blocked DIDS`
`08:21.08`	`brunner`	`uhm, I'll only have one call-in number`
`08:21.19`	`carrar`	`and do a query of them before anythign else`
`08:21.33`	`carrar`	`You need a PRI`
`08:21.39`	`carrar`	`so You can get ANI`
`08:21.48`	`brunner`	`ah`
`08:21.49`	`carrar`	`or a T1`
`08:21.53`	`carrar`	`with ANI`
`08:22.05`	`brunner`	`so ANI is the best way to go then?`
`08:22.05`	`carrar`	`PRI's are best`
`08:22.17`	`carrar`	`well ANI is the number they called from`
`08:22.27`	`brunner`	`I have a PRI at the office, but like I say, this will be co-located elsewhere at a telephone company`
`08:22.27`	`carrar`	`PRI's send that on the D channel`
`08:23.02`	`brunner`	`I don't know how the telephone company will be connecting the box to the PSTN, but I know it will run through some kind of SIP gateway`
`08:23.03`	`carrar`	`well think about how you want to control stuff`
`08:23.26`	`carrar`	`bock anonymous calls`
`08:23.30`	`carrar`	`and restricked also`
`08:23.33`	`carrar`	`(sp)`
`08:23.37`	`carrar`	`phear my spelling`
`08:23.51`	`carrar`	`only allow calls with ANI`
`08:24.01`	`carrar`	`then lookup the ANI in a DB Table`
`08:24.14`	`carrar`	`reject ones that are in the 'reject' table`
`08:24.20`	`carrar`	`etc...`
`08:24.25`	`carrar`	`basic db crap`
`08:24.33`	`carrar`	`easy agi stuff`
`08:24.44`	`carrar`	`well 'easy'`
`08:24.49`	`carrar`	`brb`
`08:25.14`	`brunner`	`what calls wouldn't have ANI?`
`08:26.03`	`carrar`	`ones where they block it`
`08:26.16`	`brunner`	`you can block ANI??`
`08:26.18`	`carrar`	`yes`
`08:26.22`	`brunner`	`how?`
`08:26.43`	`carrar`	`'at a ani level'`
`08:27.03`	`brunner`	`carrar: how can I get asterisk to speak a variable?`
`08:27.13`	`carrar`	`SipAddHeader(Privacy: none)`
`08:27.36`	`carrar`	`speak how`
`08:28.04`	`brunner`	`I want it to read out the contents of ${CALLERID(num)}`
`08:28.31`	`carrar`	`SetCallerPres(prohib)`
`08:28.33`	`brunner`	`SayDigits`
`08:28.42`	`carrar`	`use SAY`
`08:29.03`	`carrar`	`SayDigits(${CALLERID(number)})`
`08:30.05`	`carrar`	`take 2 days`
`08:30.11`	`carrar`	`and go through everyon command`
`08:30.16`	`carrar`	`in show applications`
`08:30.18`	`carrar`	`seriously`
`08:30.30`	`carrar`	`PITA`
`08:30.33`	`carrar`	`but worth it`
`08:38.18`	`brunner`	`oh lame. my phone company is giving me caller id as ANI instead of ANI`
`08:38.58`	`brunner`	`in other words, if I dial *67 and call my asterisk box, ${CALLERID(ani)} = "unknown" lol`
`08:39.15`	`brunner`	`*67 doesn't really block ANI, right?`
`08:39.56`	`carrar`	`need to look at whats they are sending you`
`08:40.37`	`carrar`	`You can save those to vars as needed`
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`08:51.43`	`brunner`	`carrar: what country are you in?`
`09:02.36`	`carrar`	`U`
`09:02.37`	`carrar`	`S`
`09:02.38`	`carrar`	`A`
`09:02.53`	`carrar`	`Best country in the WORLD!!!!`
`09:03.26`	`carrar`	`http://pics.osburn.com/photo/42333/original`
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`09:13.33`	`brunner`	`Gary: hi`
`09:14.00`	`brunner`	`how do non-north-american numbers usually show up on caller id?`
`09:14.21`	`brunner`	`does caller id pretty much always work internationally?`
`09:15.02`	`carrar`	`brunner, talk to your carrier`
`09:19.52`	`MaliutaLap`	`very carrier dependant`
`09:24.16`	`brunner`	`well I'm trying to get someone from outside north america to call, but I haven't found a single person who is willing to do it`
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`09:30.21`	`Double_Cheesebur`	`I just installed asteriskNOW moments ago. I am being prompted for a CentOS username. Does anyone know what the default is here? I designated a password as part of the installation process, but not a username.`
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`10:14.11`	`[gnubie]`	`hello all..`
`10:15.09`	`[gnubie]`	`anyone can help me here? => http://pastebin.ca/1337853`
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`10:35.55`	`Strale`	`I have enabled Aynchronous Javascript Asterisk Manager (AJAM) and I like to get result from asterisk CLI show channels, how to do it?`
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`10:54.43`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`[gnubie], something else is using channel 4`
`10:54.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`another instance of asterisk?`
`10:55.21`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`see also /proc/dahdi/* # does the channel show '(In Use)'?`
`10:58.01`	`[gnubie]`	`tzafrir_laptop: let me check..`
`11:27.13`	`[gnubie]`	`how can i set asterisk to create the pid file inside /var/run/asterisk directory instead of /var/run/ directory?`
`11:30.17`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Set varrandir in asterisk.conf`
`11:31.45`	`BBHoss`	`anyone know how to build an AADK image from scratch?`
`11:32.35`	`[gnubie]`	`tzafrir_laptop: you mean, i will append on my /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf file this line? => "varrandir => /var/run/asterisk"`
`11:32.43`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`yes`
`11:32.51`	`[gnubie]`	`tzafrir_laptop: ok, i will try`
`11:33.00`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`and make sure that the section is not disabled (!)`
`11:35.24`	`[gnubie]`	`tzafrir_laptop: what section?`
`11:37.57`	`rob0`	`it's astrundir in my asterisk.conf`
`11:39.38`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`[gnubie], [directories]`
`11:39.46`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`(the top one in the sample file)`
`11:43.15`	`[gnubie]`	`tzafrir_laptop: http://pastebin.ca/1337898`
`11:43.25`	`[gnubie]`	`that's the contents of my /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf`
`11:44.20`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`[gnubie], s/global/directories/`
`11:45.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`[directories] was also used in 1.4`
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`11:47.09`	`[gnubie]`	`tzafrir_laptop: thanks.. it worked now`
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`12:05.40`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`nice. So with 1.6.1 there's no dependency on dahdi for timing`
`12:06.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`IIRC kernel >= 2.6.25 is required. Which is not a problem at all for Lenny`
`12:08.36`	`mort_gib`	`how is stability with 1.6.XX`
`12:10.18`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`improving, I guess`
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`12:20.45`	`mort_gib`	`tzafrir_laptop: haven't had time to try it out yet, just curious :-)`
`12:21.16`	`mort_gib`	`I have a few projects coming up and it would be better to get them on 1.6...`
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`12:42.45`	`lbt`	`tzafrir_laptop: hi`
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`12:50.23`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`lbt, hi`
`12:50.45`	`lbt`	`hi, I saw your comments on 1.6 in the backlog`
`12:50.57`	`lbt`	`is there a debian pkg I can test?`
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`12:51.21`	`lbt`	`it wasn't in my aptitude list and I only looked briefly`
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`13:14.29`	`lbt`	`riddlebox: hi`
`13:14.51`	`riddlebox`	`hey`
`13:14.54`	`lbt`	`Got my gestures on youtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPQ1VlyMPYU`
`13:15.20`	`riddlebox`	`cool i will check them out in a sec`
`13:15.43`	`riddlebox`	`i gotta find the app to let me become root`
`13:16.29`	`lbt`	`ssh`
`13:16.51`	`riddlebox`	`so i can uxse apt get`
`13:16.56`	`lbt`	`http://wiki.maemo.org/Root_access`
`13:17.25`	`lbt`	`it's not quite installable yet :)`
`13:17.42`	`lbt`	`but if you have scratchbox then you're welcome to see the code`
`13:17.55`	`lbt`	`I reckon another week before I release it`
`13:20.02`	`riddlebox`	`cool`
`13:23.51`	`riddlebox`	`that loos like it works well`
`13:27.00`	`lbt`	`yep - not used it for real yet but it seems OK`
`13:27.58`	`riddlebox`	`one app i used alot was mythetomer`
`13:28.05`	`lbt`	`may need bigger list entries to make touch more manageable`
`13:28.15`	`lbt`	`I tried that`
`13:28.39`	`riddlebox`	`yeah i used it till my tuner cards crapped out on me`
`13:28.41`	`lbt`	`I think Myth needs a better mechanism to allow remotes`
`13:28.55`	`lbt`	`heh - dvb-s and PVR350`
`13:29.07`	`lbt`	`+ 5Tb`
`13:29.28`	`riddlebox`	`yeah lirc is rough but after you get it running`
`13:29.46`	`lbt`	`and now asterisk works MythPhone is on the cards again`
`13:30.21`	`riddlebox`	`i have a script to allow you to setup recordings from you phone`
`13:30.38`	`lbt`	`that's cool`
`13:31.39`	`lbt`	`does it lookup the episode name and use festival to confirm?`
`13:31.44`	`lbt`	`<grin>`
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`13:32.45`	`riddlebox`	`well it could but i got it wworking to setup recordings and stopped cause thats all i wanted`
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`13:34.16`	`lbt`	`just kidding - but that would be a nice SIP demo wouldn't it`
`13:34.18`	`riddlebox`	`the only issue with it is that you need mythweb and twill`
`13:35.03`	`lbt`	`ah , I see`
`13:35.14`	`lbt`	`not heard of twill before`
`13:36.37`	`riddlebox`	`http://vallista.idyll.org/~james/`
`13:37.05`	`riddlebox`	`its a module for python to fill out forms`
`13:44.43`	`riddlebox`	`the auther of twill used it for a demo of ways to use twill`
`13:48.08`	`af_`	`any way could I receive calls from skype to *?`
`13:51.24`	`riddlebox`	`there is chan.skype i think but as far as i know you have to pay`
`13:51.54`	`riddlebox`	`you can get one of those ata's and just plug it into a tdm card`
`13:52.49`	`riddlebox`	`http://www.google.com/search?q=skpe+asterisk`
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`14:03.38`	`dwery`	`anybody knows if the Sangoma USBfxo U100 supports doing "flash" on the analog line?`
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`14:24.05`	`raz`	`can anyone tell me why i cannot abort this dial by pressing a dtmf key? exten => 0,n,Dial(SIP/2000,60,m(ringing)d)`
`14:24.47`	`raz`	`1.4.21.1 here`
`14:25.42`	`raz`	`h H don't work either`
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`14:34.11`	`lilalinux`	`how can I change the reported callerid in the voicemail mail template?`
`14:34.27`	`lilalinux`	`so that it always is formatted internationally?`
`14:34.57`	`lilalinux`	`I tried to change pridialplan and prilocaldialplan but this has no effect to voicemail`
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`14:54.44`	`Dovid`	`lilalinux: What do you mean by cid template ?`
`14:55.08`	`Dovid`	`for when what happens where ?`
`15:03.12`	`[gnubie]`	`hhhmmmm..`
`15:03.16`	`[gnubie]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:03.16`	`[gnubie]`	`[Feb 15 23:00:11] WARNING[4096]: file.c:655 ast_openstream_full: File today does not exist in any format`
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`15:05.53`	`Dovid`	`[gnubie]: Are you sure that you have the file today ?`
`15:06.23`	`[gnubie]`	`Dovid: not sure but i got the asterisk main and extra sounds`
`15:06.37`	`Dovid`	`cd /var/lib/asterisk/sounds`
`15:06.41`	`Dovid`	`then ls today.*`
`15:06.49`	`Dovid`	`and see if u get any results ;)`
`15:09.17`	`kaldemar`	`there is no today.xxx in core or extra sounds`
`15:10.42`	`lilalinux`	`Dovid: voicemail sends mail when there are new messages with the callers id in local format, e.g. 069 12345`
`15:10.53`	`lilalinux`	`I want it to show +49 69 12345`
`15:11.12`	`Dovid`	`ok.`
`15:11.26`	`Dovid`	`this is the caller that called in or the mailbxo number ?`
`15:11.34`	`Dovid`	`mailbox*`
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`15:15.29`	`brunner`	`do you guys know of an ANAC that announces ANI?`
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`15:17.04`	`Dovid`	`ANAC = ?`
`15:17.46`	`brunner`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_announcement_circuit`
`15:18.54`	`Dovid`	`brunner: most likely your phone comapny ;) don't know of any external ones for anyone to call in to`
`15:20.42`	`brunner`	`well I'm curious about ANI II`
`15:21.38`	`Dovid`	`;)`
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`15:28.00`	`brunner`	`for example, what ANI II digits show up for cell phones, and what shows up for voip lines?`
`15:30.35`	`brunner`	`I just don't have access to a PRI right now`
`15:31.30`	`[gnubie]`	`what could be the reason why SayDigits() is not playing own number?`
`15:34.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[gnubie]: How about showing us the call?`
`15:34.58`	`[gnubie]`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok, i will.. but, i don't have any warnings or error`
`15:36.58`	`Dovid`	`[gnubie]: Is verbosity set up to the highest ? try using noop to see what the value of the variable that you are trying to play`
`15:38.25`	`[gnubie]`	`Dovid: only 3.. ok`
`15:38.50`	`kaldemar`	`noop is not necessary, the variable contents will show in the cli output when the application is executed.`
`15:40.18`	`Dovid`	`verbosity high for maybe a better error`
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`15:55.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`20 minutes later and nothing to show....`
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`15:57.10`	`forexguy`	`hey all`
`15:58.52`	`forexguy`	`been searching the forums and going crazy trying to do this, so any help would be appreciated: " I'm running python scripts with asterisk 1.4.22 and my app needs to put a caller on hold music, once on hold i want the caller to be able to press any digit to break out of the hold and return to my main menu, i also want to run checks every 3 seconds while he is on hold for agents, anyone have ideas?`
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`16:11.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`forexguy: "core show application queue"`
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`16:16.50`	`orioni`	`i register succesfully but when i call anynumber i get an 404 not found ?`
`16:16.55`	`orioni`	`what does this mean ?`
`16:17.05`	`orioni`	`the number i call is a cell phone ?`
`16:17.21`	`orioni`	`all this after i made a call from albania to the USA`
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`16:17.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`orioni: pastebin the complete call attempt CLI output with SIP debug enabled`
`16:17.31`	`orioni`	`before everything was OK`
`16:17.51`	`orioni`	`does this maybe mean that i dont have credit left on my account ?`
`16:17.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`orioni: 404 = not found, just like it said. Either it can't identify the caller, or it can't process the extension that was requested`
`16:18.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`orioni: Extremely unlikely`
`16:18.17`	`orioni`	`even if i register ok with the user/pass ?`
`16:19.00`	`orioni`	`if i input another user/pass comibnation it says 407 auth required .`
`16:19.39`	`orioni`	`so i dont think thats an caller identification problem, am i wrong ?`
`16:22.36`	`orioni`	`any help ?`
`16:24.45`	`lbt`	`I'm getting Module 'chan_dahdi.so' was not compiled with the same compile-time options as this version of Asterisk.`
`16:25.12`	`lbt`	`is this a compiler level problem?`
`16:25.27`	`lbt`	`or is it a dahdi/asterisk option proble?`
`16:25.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`orioni: 407 is better than 404, but this depends on things. Pastebin the SIP DEBUG.`
`16:25.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`16:25.48`	`jbot`	`[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/`
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`16:38.19`	`trex133`	`Anyone willing to help me please?`
`16:38.30`	`trex133`	`I need to reject ZAP call from CLI or AMI but don't know how to do it...`
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`17:02.10`	`forexguy`	`hey all, d-fender mentioned the core show application queue to point in the right direction. I am trying to keep control of my caller while he is on hold and i'm not transfering him to an outbound agent but instead to a meetme, has anyone done this?`
`17:04.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`forexguy: what do you mean "control of caller"?`
`17:05.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: You don't it isn't CLI's job to precess calls.`
`17:05.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: Go arrange what you need in the dialplan`
`17:08.27`	`trex133`	`D-fender : i need a way to hangup call from CLI or AMI because i need to ma ke "button" in aplication running in another machine which would hangup incomin call`
`17:09.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: What is the call doing at the point in time where you want to hang it up?`
`17:09.49`	`trex133`	`the only thing it works is to reload ZAP to reject incoming call and then reload again since it doesnt registers ZAP chanells first time`
`17:10.12`	`trex133`	`it is ringing`
`17:10.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: So * hasn't started processing it yet?`
`17:11.17`	`trex133`	`no it hasn't.`
`17:11.40`	`trex133`	`i dont care if it answer than hangup or hangup on ring`
`17:12.05`	`eppigy`	`hello`
`17:12.08`	`eppigy`	`i am dave`
`17:12.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: You can't hangup if you don't PICK UP. So why isn't * ANSWERING that call?`
`17:13.55`	`trex133`	`i know that i can't hangup if i don't answer, the question is how can i answer and hangup from CLI or AMI. Lets say i dont want to answer that call when i see CID.`
`17:16.38`	`trex133`	`is there any way to make it do something like answer>play(busy)>hangup from CLI or AMI`
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`17:18.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: What are you looking at the CID on?`
`17:18.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: And WHY isn't * processing the call? What is * doing with a FXO if it isn't even looking at incoming calls?`
`17:19.03`	`trex133`	`nothing particular. I need to do it "live" thats why i cannt use inbound routes`
`17:19.45`	`trex133`	`im sorry i wrote something wrong`
`17:19.48`	`forexguy`	`i need to put a caller on hold and check a db every 3 seconds for a changed value and also need that caller to be able to press any key to stop holding`
`17:19.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: There is no live. It is not possible. * has to do SOMENG with the call even if its just calling Wait()`
`17:20.21`	`trex133`	`call is comming and processing and i see extension ringing`
`17:20.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`forexguy: So far only that DB part is challenging.`
`17:20.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: HUH?`
`17:20.40`	`trex133`	`in that time i need to reject it (answer>hangup)`
`17:20.48`	`forexguy`	`can a caller interrupt music on hold?`
`17:21.05`	`forexguy`	`i tried putting him on hold then getting channel status and cant even detect him pressing a digit`
`17:21.42`	`trex133`	`but not to lift handset but doing it with CLI or AMI command`
`17:22.23`	`trex133`	`sorry D-fender i don't know how to explain it better`
`17:24.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`forexguy: No`
`17:24.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: Why is * never processing the call in the first place?`
`17:26.14`	`trex133`	`i see incomin call in CLI rinnging my extension and i want to reject it(only possible by answering than hangup) but i dont want do lift my handset. I want to do it through CLI or AMI`
`17:27.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: So * IS processing the call?`
`17:27.17`	`trex133`	`yes it is processin the call`
`17:27.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: Then use an AMI Redirect to a extension that just calls "Hangup"`
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`17:30.23`	`trex133`	`it ocured me but i dont know how to make extension which would do "hangup". When I'm creating extension i must choose SIP or ZAP. which one shoud i choose and what to put in "context" filed?`
`17:31.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: extension = EXTENSIONS.CONF = DIALPLAN`
`17:31.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: a "phone" is NOT AN EXTENSION`
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`17:33.46`	`Corydon76-dig`	`[TK]D-Fender: how do you manage to say the same things day after day after day and not go completely bonkers?`
`17:34.01`	`Corydon76-dig`	`Thanks for all the assistance you give in here, btw`
`17:34.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Corydon76-dig: How is it you think I haven't? :)`
`17:34.21`	`trex133`	`I made this in extensions.conf`
`17:34.23`	`trex133`	`[proba]`
`17:34.25`	`trex133`	`exten => 333,1,Answer()`
`17:34.26`	`trex133`	`exten => 333,n,Wait(1)`
`17:34.28`	`trex133`	`exten => 333,n,Playback(hello-world)`
`17:34.29`	`trex133`	`exten => 333,n,Wait(1)`
`17:34.31`	`trex133`	`exten => 333,n,Hangup()`
`17:34.32`	`trex133`	`exten => 333,1,Answer`
`17:34.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Corydon76-dig: Its actually a miracle that I didn't alternate any of my last 3-4 lines with swear-words`
`17:34.34`	`trex133`	`Is it right? what to do next?`
`17:34.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: do NOT spam in here.`
`17:35.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: And no, it isn't right. you have 2 "1" PRIORITIES`
`17:35.07`	`trex133`	`sorry i realy need help`
`17:35.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: bUT IT WOULD TECHNICALLY WORK`
`17:35.19`	`Corydon76-dig`	`~pb`
`17:35.20`	`jbot`	`[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste, or , http://bin.cakephp.org/`
`17:35.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`darn caps.`
`17:35.26`	`trex133`	`oh i see, my mistake`
`17:36.17`	`trex133`	`last line isn't needed`
`17:37.53`	`trex133`	`so if I transfer call to extension 333 it would answer>play>hangup ?`
`17:38.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`trex133: It does what it says...`
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`17:41.32`	`neurosys`	`[TK]D-Fender: Your advice: App development for using asterisk to dialout and such is best done by echoing text files (.call files) into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing? Or is there a better way?`
`17:42.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: It works, depending on the case I'd prefer AMI originate.`
`17:42.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: Allows you to isolate the filesystem`
`17:42.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: bypass locking, etc`
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`17:43.30`	`neurosys`	`Thanks TK`
`17:44.09`	`jaytee`	`[TK]D-Fender, damn it man! when are you gonna write an Asterisk book? You've got gobs of priceless information in that chunk of grey matter and you're just dribbling it out a teensy bit here and there. I'd pay 39.99 for a print version of "Everything You Need to Avoid the Dreaded ClueBat in Asterisk".`
`17:45.20`	`neurosys`	`"Everything you shouldn't be asking in Freenode/#Asterisk or face the wrath of [TK]D-Fender .... Cookbook!" :-P`
`17:46.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jaytee: No... it HAS a price :)`
`17:46.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jaytee: I'd write a book for pay... sure`
`17:47.48`	`jaytee`	`well, I might go as high as 59.99 if was chock full o' goodies and as thick as the Perl Cookbook by O'Reilly.`
`17:48.09`	`neurosys`	`I'd pay for that`
`17:49.23`	`jaytee`	`besides, I already bought 2 print copies of the book, one for work and one for home because I hate toting books back and forth and also because Leif needed an oil change in his Yugo.`
`17:50.07`	`jaytee`	`[TK]D-Fender, you might even make enough off the book to pay for a few months of martial arts lessons.`
`17:51.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jaytee: its throught the YMCA... its $50/mo... FFS it'd better pay a lifetime membership :p`
`17:51.59`	`jaytee`	`hahhaa`
`17:53.03`	`jaytee`	`I used to go the the YMCA but then this big hairy troll started stalking me and kept coming in the showers and smiling at me all the time as he soaped his crotch. Just creeped me out too much.`
`18:01.40`	`Corydon76-dig`	`ooooooooooookay`
`18:03.43`	`brunner`	`are there any modern phone numbers that are longer than 12 digits?`
`18:05.17`	`brunner`	`nm, Austria has 13-digit numbers`
`18:06.45`	`rob0`	`Yeah but who wants to talk to THEM? :)`
`18:08.58`	`jaytee`	`Corydon76-dig, that wasn't meant as a slight against gays.`
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`18:13.00`	`brunner`	`what's the maximum length of the caller id name field?`
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`18:27.45`	`lbt`	`why doesn't http://asterisk:8088/asterisk/mxml?action=originate&channel=SIP/david&exten=1000&context=default work under 1.6?`
`18:28.03`	`lbt`	`I found that I need originate`
`18:28.45`	`lbt`	`ah, hold on, write=originate...`
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`18:38.40`	`drmessano`	`Anyone tested/used T.38 with les.net`
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`18:46.06`	`asteriskmonkey1`	`anyone know how to send a 302 message in asterisk?`
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`18:56.05`	`root52`	`So I have an older polycom Soundpoint IP400 the uses MGCP. Well this phone was giving to me and when booting it tells me that it cant find MGCP config files. So Is there anyway to get these file and ftp them to the phone without going through my Polycom authorized reseller as the web site suggests.`
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`19:00.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`root52: http://downloads.polycom.com/voice/voip/sip_sw_releases_matrix.html`
`19:00.53`	`root52`	`[TK]D-Fender: Yeah I looked there and could not find the ip400`
`19:01.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`root52: IIRC the 1.4 firmware supports them. Check the release notes`
`19:01.38`	`root52`	`Ahhh Thanks!!`
`19:06.03`	`asteriskmonkey1`	`so nobody know how to do sip redirects in the dialplan?`
`19:06.44`	`asteriskmonkey1`	`sorry moved... ie a 302 message`
`19:09.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`asteriskmonkey1 : I think Transfer() might do it`
`19:13.25`	`asteriskmonkey1`	`ill try that thanks, ill try that`
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`19:33.01`	`cjalmeidabr`	`hello.`
`19:33.22`	`brunner`	`what mysql datatype should I use for agi_uniqueid?`
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`19:33.49`	`cjalmeidabr`	`I'm having a problem with IAXModem. I can't receive faxes. When I dial the extension, the IAXModem return BUSY.`
`19:35.00`	`drmessano`	`Sweet`
`19:35.07`	`drmessano`	`My dryer almost caught on fire`
`19:35.25`	`drmessano`	`I blame zaptel`
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`19:50.24`	`root52`	`[TK]D-Fender:So I got version 1.4.2 of SIP from the polycom link you sent me and this is why i think i need the orginal MGCP firmware as I get this message in the log. \|File is 7918299, which is bigger than file system.!!`
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`19:51.17`	`mikea`	`Is there any way I can get asterisk parse out E.164 format numbers and send just 10 digit numbers to my phones?`
`19:51.31`	`mikea`	`all sip channels`
`19:51.35`	`mikea`	`phones and trunks`
`19:51.50`	`fbnts`	`Hi, i'm trying to get a new ISDN card working. I have setup mISDN, asterisk is loading the module and reports that there are 4 ports but when I call the ISDN number, it waits for a few seconds before BT times out. I can't see any log messages in Asterisk. Does anyone have any ideas where to start?`
`19:51.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`root52: Go find out what it is RUNNING`
`19:52.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`root52: Oh, and that is a SIP image, not MGCP`
`19:52.18`	`mikea`	`Cisco IP Phone?`
`19:52.29`	`mikea`	`I just went through the exercise of getting a 7941 working..`
`19:52.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`root52: Drill accordingly for MGCP releases`
`19:52.39`	`mikea`	`Now that its finally working it's awesome`
`19:53.43`	`root52`	`[TK]D-Fender: Thanks I will keep digging. I have googled a bit before but I have found that you can only get this MGCP release from a polycom reseller. But I will keep on the hunt. Thanks Again !!`
`19:54.30`	`fbnts`	`"misdn show stacks" gives the following line "* Port 4 Type TE Prot. PMP L2Link DOWN L1Link:UP Blocked:0 Debug:2"`
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`19:59.14`	`stoffell`	`fbnts, link down is not good. you should have UP 2 times..`
`19:59.43`	`stoffell`	`fbnts, like this: Port 1 Type TE Prot. PTP L2Link UP L1Link:UP Blocked:0 Debug:3`
`20:00.28`	`fbnts`	`ok, so is that the two channels?`
`20:00.47`	`fbnts`	`we have a 4 port card, two isdn2e points`
`20:00.52`	`Micho123`	`Hi all, I'm using Asterisk in real-time mode...i need to limit the number of concurrent call per extension...I added a call-limit fiield to sip_buddies table and put it as 1 for an extension...I tried to make 2 concurrent calls from the sameextension and it did not work...Can someone help me plz?`
`20:01.03`	`fbnts`	`I have currently only connected one to the card (looks like port 4)`
`20:01.15`	`fbnts`	`is there somewhere else I can start debugging?`
`20:02.08`	`stoffell`	`fbnts, paste your misdn-init.conf on pastebin somewhere`
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`20:05.02`	`fbnts`	`h`
`20:05.07`	`fbnts`	`here it is: http://pastebin.ca/1338226`
`20:06.16`	`stoffell`	`fbnts, try replace te_ptmp=.. with te_ptp ?`
`20:08.42`	`fbnts`	`k, will give it a go now`
`20:09.01`	`stoffell`	`you should see L2 and L1 link up when showing stacks`
`20:09.19`	`stoffell`	`if you connected the port to your telco that is ...`
`20:09.56`	`kb3ien`	`When configuring polycoms by having them download config files, which files override the others? The last ones loaded or the first ones loaded?`
`20:15.18`	`fbnts`	`ah, its now showing Port 4 Type TE Prot. PTP L2Link UP L1Link:UP Blocked:0 Debug:2`
`20:15.22`	`fbnts`	`will try a call to it`
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`20:17.52`	`brunner`	`would it be sane to try to run asterisk on a VPS?`
`20:19.32`	`fbnts`	`thanks stoffell, that has worked - just need to convert my audio files to alaw`
`20:20.56`	`stoffell`	`fbnts, good luck. Oh, and if you're using a digium bri card you can also use the new wcb4xxp driver and use native zap.. oops.. dahdi :-)`
`20:21.16`	`fbnts`	`its an openvox card i think`
`20:21.47`	`stoffell`	`ok, never mind ;)`
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`20:40.16`	`cobnok`	`can anyone explain what I need to do in order to make gnugk and asterisk work ( using h323 ), I am currently seeing gnugk register with asterisk but nothing else is happening, how do I make it route a call from h323 phone to asterisk and back, thanks.`
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`20:44.46`	`Micho123`	`Hi all Hi all, I'm using Asterisk in real-time mode...i need to limit the number of concurrent call per extension...I added a call-limit fiield to sip_buddies table and put it as 1 for an extension...I tried to make 2 concurrent calls from the sameextension and it did not work...Can someone help me plz?`
`20:45.06`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, when you installed asterisk did you install h323 support from the asterisk-addons package?`
`20:47.41`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, yes I am seeing gnugk register with asterisk, they are both on localhost`
`20:48.08`	`jaytee`	`so you did install the ooh323 addon from the asterisk-addons package then?`
`20:48.10`	`cobnok`	`would I need to add something to the gnugk.ini in order to route my phone call to asterisk ?`
`20:48.33`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, can't I use chan_h323?`
`20:48.45`	`talirk81`	`I have " -- Executing [s@Dialer-CallCenters:18] Dial("Local/s@Dialer-7ddc,2", "SIP/arettasip/15122762516\|16\|gmL[60000.000000]") in new stack" but after about 20 second the line just suddently goes dead. There is nothing in my Dial command that looks to be causing that right`
`20:49.08`	`talirk81`	`16 repesents the time out for ringing not while connected ... Right>?`
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`20:50.19`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, I guess you could. I've dealt only with sip and thought that h323 required the addon but it looks like I was wrong yet again :-(`
`20:51.05`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, you say that gnugk registers but when you attempt a call do you get any info on the Asterisk CLI? if so pastebin it please.`
`20:51.19`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, no info at all`
`20:51.33`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, I enabled all the debugging, however I do see the phone register with gatekeeper`
`20:51.36`	`cobnok`	`gnugk that is`
`20:51.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: look at the ENTIRE call, not jsut 1 line`
`20:52.00`	`cobnok`	`I think there is some problem with gnugk going to the asterisk`
`20:52.05`	`cobnok`	`but I am not sure where`
`20:52.13`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, possibly a firewall issue`
`20:52.17`	`talirk81`	`welll i am looking at the whole call but thats the only explanation`
`20:52.29`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, impossible it's all on the local network for testing purposes only`
`20:52.43`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, and both asterisk and gnugk are on the same host`
`20:53.13`	`talirk81`	`even with sip debugging on , i dont see a call end`
`20:53.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: Not for us it isn't`
`20:53.49`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, ok but even on the same local net each host including the asterisk server could have iptables running with the port closed. In this particular case it shouldn't be an issue since they are both on the same machine.`
`20:54.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: You could be overlooking things and we aren't seeing it.`
`20:54.23`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, I've got no experience with gnugk though or h323 really.`
`20:55.06`	`jaytee`	`I know it uses a gatekeeper but I'm unfamiliar with the setup. Is the gatekeeper also on the asterisk/gnugk host?`
`20:55.07`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, it is not a network issue, I am sure of that`
`20:55.23`	`cobnok`	`gnugk is the gatekeeper`
`20:55.33`	`talirk81`	`Well what would you want to see that is the only dial that has a limit feature on it. and the sip doesnt show a BYE command nor does the verbose console report the call was ended in any way. Id be glad to give you any info you think might help , but id have to know what you need.`
`20:55.59`	`cobnok`	`I could not find any instructions online on how to do simple h323 phone setup with asterisk`
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`20:57.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: You are not doing anything to help your situation.`
`20:57.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: talirk81>I have " -- Executing [s@Dialer-CallCenters:18] Dial("Local/s@Dialer-7ddc,2", "SIP/arettasip/15122762516\|16\|gmL[60000.000000]") in new stack" but after about 20 second the line just suddently goes dead. There is nothing in my Dial command that looks to be causing that right ,- and the [] aren't right`
`20:58.17`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, did you search in the WIKI on voip-info.org?`
`20:58.55`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, yes I spent almost half day looking for instructions`
`20:59.26`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, I looked in the book, * TFOT but there's not much in there either for h323.`
`21:00.00`	`jaytee`	`cobnok, what's the driving reason behind using that protocol? connection with another system that only supports that?`
`21:00.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cobnok: Do you see the packets arriving at *?`
`21:00.57`	`cobnok`	`jaytee, I have a dlink dph-100h phone which only supports h.323 via gatekeeper, this is the reason`
`21:01.27`	`cobnok`	`[TK]D-Fender, did not do a tcpdump yet, but with all the debugging enabled nothing comes in`
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`21:01.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cobnok: Forget console for now, do the tcpdump`
`21:02.37`	`cobnok`	`[TK]D-Fender, should I make a call and then look at the network traffic ?`
`21:02.47`	`cobnok`	`I am seeing on console of asterisk, == Using OpenH323GK@localhost as our Gatekeeper.`
`21:03.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cobnok: look for TRAFFIC. Its hard to find things in the PAST. Be looking, then place the call`
`21:03.50`	`cobnok`	`maybe I need openh323 instead of regular asterisk h323 ?`
`21:04.43`	`ManxPower`	`cobnok: Gettng H323 working with Asterisk is one of the hardest things to do.`
`21:05.01`	`ManxPower`	`For %99 of people it is not worth the time and trouble, and they just buy a cheap SIP phone.`
`21:05.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cobnok: maybe you need to stop going off on tangent and do some TESTS.`
`21:07.09`	`CrashHD`	`lol`
`21:07.23`	`CrashHD`	`cobnok, got some of the best troubleshooters around helping you, better get to it`
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`21:11.11`	`talirk81`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have a production system using that same L[$TIMEOUT] sysntax and it works find, I change it to () but that didnt help either. Im assuming you would want the verbose log since sip debug isnt showing a BYE from either party. So here it is... http://rafb.net/p/6CQCqj41.html`
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`21:21.04`	`WildyLion`	`hiya`
`21:28.37`	`cobnok`	`is speciliazed license needed for g723`
`21:30.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cobnok: * does not support G.723 except via the TC400 transcoder card`
`21:31.16`	`jaytee`	`723 is obsoleted in favor of g726, there is also a g723.1 which is not the same.`
`21:31.31`	`jaytee`	`and what [TK]D-Fender said ^^^^`
`21:31.38`	`drmessano`	`726 is pretty wicked`
`21:31.54`	`jaytee`	`wicked pissa as they'd say in my old stomping grounds`
`21:32.25`	`drmessano`	`heh`
`21:32.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`drmessano: Yeah... last guy to turn his head back to look at it turned into a pillar of salt :p`
`21:33.04`	`drmessano`	`lol`
`21:33.26`	`drmessano`	`I need to post some of the pics of my dryer`
`21:33.28`	`ManxPower`	`talirk81: Using [ ] in a Dial statement is ALWAYS WRONG. Don't do it. It will never work.`
`21:33.29`	`drmessano`	`Awesome shit`
`21:35.22`	`cobnok`	`yes, I am getting the h323 and gnugk + * to work correctly now with dlink dph-100h phone`
`21:35.50`	`cobnok`	`thank you for your help, gnugk.ini needed a line for permanent endpoint, this is what was causing the problem`
`21:36.43`	`talirk81`	`Man: thats already been changed but its still killing sound afrer 20 seconds. not 60 seconds as the dialplan in the pastebin suggests that it should`
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`21:38.23`	`ManxPower`	`talirk81: you can start by setting up a SIMPLE with NO AGI SCRIPTS OR GOTOS OR ANYTHING.`
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`21:38.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: And I don't see SIP debug for the call.`
`21:38.43`	`ManxPower`	`just a Dial line with an extension. Does the problem happen then?`
`21:39.35`	`talirk81`	`well like i said it didnt have an byes until i actually hang up the phone but i could get that for you.`
`21:39.47`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:39.57`	`ManxPower`	`notice the SIXTEEN SECOND timeout?`
`21:40.11`	`talirk81`	`that 16 is for the ring timeout`
`21:40.25`	`talirk81`	`or at leas thats what the oriely book says`
`21:40.39`	`CrashHD`	`a ring is still a ring, until its not`
`21:40.56`	`talirk81`	`but the call is answered, 20 seconds later it stops`
`21:41.03`	`ManxPower`	`Do what I said, no agi no nothing except for a dial`
`21:41.34`	`drmessano`	`I just picked up my handset and said "Rampart, this is medic 51" and got no answer`
`21:41.38`	`drmessano`	`Dialplan issue?`
`21:41.51`	`talirk81`	`Man: I already said i know that way works thats how the production works. However the dial command minus what tk siad to change was unchanged in the new release`
`21:42.01`	`talirk81`	`the only varible is the dev server is behind nat`
`21:42.05`	`ManxPower`	`drmessano: besure your dialplan executes 100 lines for that call using AGI scripts and funky variables.`
`21:42.13`	`talirk81`	`but i have setup astersisk to know its behind a nat`
`21:42.18`	`ManxPower`	`that way nobody will help you`
`21:42.41`	`drmessano`	`lol`
`21:42.53`	`drmessano`	`May I wrap it in [] ?`
`21:43.12`	`ManxPower`	`"I want your help, but I want it my way." "No, if you want my help you'll do it my way!"`
`21:43.44`	`CrashHD`	`hah hitler for the help desk`
`21:44.20`	`ManxPower`	`If your way worked you would not be calling me.`
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`21:45.16`	`talirk81`	`This is areally ridecelous i can give you the out from the prodcution systme NOT using AGI that we already know works. However i fail to see how that will help you trouble shoot a system usin AGI. Thats like saying let test the HP of an engine but with out oil or gas in it.`
`21:45.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: BTW, 20 seconds is the standard RTP timout to DROP A CALL`
`21:45.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Total waste`
`21:45.44`	`neurosys`	`When i want to send DTMF tones into a channel, I always lose the 1st digits. I tried using a few w's in the dtmf send and wait... but nothing Ive tried works. Any hints?`
`21:45.51`	`De_Mon`	`damn. still can't get my TCP call working in newer versions of asterisk`
`21:46.17`	`De_Mon`	`neurosys did you answer the channel first?`
`21:46.23`	`drmessano`	`De_Mon: I can get TCP <> UDP working.. But not UDP <> TCP or TCP <> TCP`
`21:46.36`	`neurosys`	`De_Mon: of course :)`
`21:46.36`	`De_Mon`	`drmessano i'm doing IAX -> sip/tcp`
`21:46.53`	`De_Mon`	`it works great in an old 10/2008 build =)`
`21:47.05`	`drmessano`	`heh`
`21:47.13`	`De_Mon`	`btw TCP <> UDP is the same as UDP <> TCP`
`21:47.31`	`drmessano`	`I'm pretty sure I understood what I meant`
`21:47.34`	`De_Mon`	`(though I know what you mean)`
`21:48.01`	`drmessano`	`Remind me to ignore you next time`
`21:48.46`	`De_Mon`	`remind me not to try and improve your online language skills next time...`
`21:48.52`	`drmessano`	`lol`
`21:49.03`	`drmessano`	`Been at this a lot longer than you, pal`
`21:49.06`	`drmessano`	`But thank you`
`21:50.06`	`jaytee`	`"In this corner weighing in at 185 lbs is the current titleholder, drmessano..........."`
`21:50.33`	`De_Mon`	`it makes no difference how long you've 'been at this', if you spell something wrong its still wrong.`
`21:50.46`	`drmessano`	`I didn't spell anything wrong, dumbass`
`21:51.06`	`De_Mon`	`great moving on`
`21:51.18`	`drmessano`	`What I stated was a clear indication of call direction and call flow between the two`
`21:51.27`	`jaytee`	`"In this corner, a former english teacher, wiseacre and contender for the crown weighing in at 142lbs, De_Mon."`
`21:51.32`	`drmessano`	`Sorry you had to think about it`
`21:52.00`	`drmessano`	`Next time I will use lots of smaller words`
`21:55.03`	`drmessano`	`Jaytee: Watching "Emergency!" on Hulu`
`21:56.07`	`drmessano`	`I don't know what's scarier.. the thought that this was real protocol for for 197x or if this a horrible dramatization for TV`
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`22:08.56`	`De_Mon`	`drmessano do you have a bug open for your TCP <> UDP and UDP <> TCP issues with asterisk?`
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`22:20.28`	`adante`	`howdy folks, new to asterisk so a possibly silly question but: i have 3 voip phones and 3 voip providers, is there a way to make it so each phone uses 1 provider exclusively for outbound calls?`
`22:21.04`	`adante`	`at the moment the only way i know how to do this is to duplicate the exten for each fone, each with a different provider`
`22:21.39`	`De_Mon`	`adante yes, very easily separate context for each phone, or by checking the user when placing the outbound call and selecting a provider based on that`
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`22:26.55`	`adante`	`De_Mon: ok thanks, can you check the user using variables or is there another manner?`
`22:27.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adante: Certainly`
`22:27.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adante: the CHANNEL name itself can be used in this decision. Go re CHANNELVARIABLES.TXT`
`22:28.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`read*`
`22:28.16`	`ManxPower`	`Set(PROVIDER=bobdobbstelecom) ExecIf($["${CALLERID(num)" = "Dobbs, Robbert"],Set,PROVIDER=timmytelecom) Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@${PROVIDER})`
`22:28.26`	`adante`	`[TK]D-Fender: cheers!`
`22:28.40`	`ManxPower`	`you would want to confirm the correct syntax`
`22:28.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`adante: and you can set a varible based on your peer by doing "SetVar=thevariable=value" in their sip.conf entry as well and it will get set whenever they start a channel`
`22:29.02`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: that would be the EASY way. 8-)`
`22:29.32`	`adante`	`wow thanks you guys sure are friendly :]`
`22:29.52`	`De_Mon`	`slips a bloody knife under a nearby rug`
`22:29.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: Yup... easier than checking the contents of the callerid number (which begs to get abused) for a TEXT value :p`
`22:30.29`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: in 1.6 there is no channelvariables.txt You can view it in tex format or PDF format`
`22:32.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`&^#%&^#%#&^@^#&@ TEX`
`22:32.14`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: doc formats are my current rant`
`22:32.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`DUMB MOVE`
`22:32.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PDF = only if it LOOKS like a book. a LOT.`
`22:32.44`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: Since you`
`22:32.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`and has pictures`
`22:32.55`	`ManxPower`	`Since you'r never supposed to run a GUI on the Asterisk server....`
`22:34.10`	`De_Mon`	`the html docs were bad enough`
`22:34.14`	`cobnok`	`anyone knows what could cause a problem where I can hear everything but cannot speak to other line, this is using h.323 and IAX trunking, thanks.`
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`22:41.05`	`cesau`	`my asterisk box is sending the wrong ip address despite having externip set - would this be indicative of having the localnet input incorrectly?`
`22:41.46`	`ManxPower`	`cesau: yes`
`22:42.46`	`cesau`	`if my local ip is 172.18.55.20 -- would my localnet be 172.18.55.0/24 ?`
`22:43.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cesau: Depends.. what's your subnet MASK?`
`22:43.42`	`cesau`	`ip addr yields 172.18.55.20/24, so i was guessing it was 24`
`22:44.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cesau: tehre you go.`
`22:44.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cesau: Now of course you're only referring to 1 little parameter and no sense of WHERE it is located or if other setting that are incolved are wrong or not.`
`22:44.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cesau: Don't be surprised when this piecemeal approach takes a LONG time to solve.`
`22:45.17`	`cesau`	`ok, if that setting is correct, and it's still not sending the correct contact info, what would be the next logical place to check?`
`22:46.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`cesau: www.pastebin.com <-`
`22:46.23`	`cesau`	`ah, gotcha`
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`22:46.27`	`cesau`	`(just had to redo this whole damn thing because the box i had running last week dropped a drive)`
`22:50.38`	`kim0`	`Hi .. my first day with asterisk ... I dont think my zaptel card is working ... anyway I can manually test`
`22:50.46`	`ManxPower`	`kim0: no.`
`22:51.08`	`ManxPower`	`if you can't ztcfg -vvv without errors you have to fix that before you continue.`
`22:51.08`	`De_Mon`	`you get little blinking lights right?`
`22:51.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: Place a call to/from it.`
`22:51.26`	`kim0`	`ManxPower: ztcfg -vvvvvv shows`
`22:51.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`using = testing`
`22:51.28`	`kim0`	`1 channels to configure.`
`22:51.41`	`kim0`	`does that mean it still needs to be configured ?`
`22:51.43`	`ManxPower`	`Knowing which of the 20 or so zaptel cards out there that y0u have would be helpful too.`
`22:51.52`	`kim0`	`TDM410p`
`22:51.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: No it means its ready for * to defined what it wants to use on it`
`22:52.08`	`ManxPower`	`You are using the wctdm driver?`
`22:52.13`	`kim0`	`yes`
`22:52.24`	`ManxPower`	`kim0: and no ERRORS from ztcfg?`
`22:52.43`	`kim0`	`No errors ==> Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)`
`22:52.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`TDM410P needs to use the wtdm2400 driver IIRC`
`22:52.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: thats fine, but you still need to configure * to use it`
`22:52.59`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: nope`
`22:53.06`	`ManxPower`	`that is the TDM8xx{`
`22:53.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ManxPower: 410, not 400.. the new arch uses the 2400 IRRC`
`22:53.42`	`ManxPower`	`[TK]D-Fender: if you say so`
`22:53.52`	`kim0`	`any asterisk cli command I can use to dial thru that zap directly`
`22:54.00`	`kim0`	`just to check the hardware`
`22:54.08`	`ManxPower`	`But I must note that the TDM4xxB where the xx indicates the number of fxo and dxs ports you have on the card.`
`22:54.28`	`ManxPower`	`kim0: only if you setup and install sound on your linux box, then build asterisk against that sound drivers.`
`22:55.00`	`ManxPower`	`kim0: and no you cannot just "check the hardware". If you want to test it you must place calls thru it.`
`22:55.01`	`kim0`	`I've installed * with trixbox .. does that make everyone here mad ? :D`
`22:55.48`	`ManxPower`	`kim0: because we don't want to spend 5 hours reading your pastebin output to try to figure out what's going on`
`22:56.30`	`ManxPower`	`It would be like taking your totally custom ford car (with custom engine, custom everything) to a ford dealership and expect them to fix it. It's a ford vehicle after all!`
`22:57.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: no such thing as "test"`
`22:57.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: get off your ass and DIAL OUT IT`
`23:00.02`	`kim0`	`ZAP/0/12345 ... that dials 12345 over zap channel 1 over TDM410P card right ?`
`23:00.45`	`kim0`	`After that I get: == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1)`
`23:00.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: No, that dials out the first ascending available channel of group 0. Helps if it exists too...`
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`23:01.38`	`xxNickxx`	`i have setup two inbound routes. one of them works flawlessly. the other one is flaky! sometimes it works fine (receives calls) and sometimes it gives me the busy signal. If i restart asterisk it gets fixed. any idea why this is happening? and how to avoid this problem?`
`23:01.47`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: where do I configure that group ? zapata.conf ?`
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`23:02.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: yes`
`23:03.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: the last "group=" line before your "channel =>" line is what applies`
`23:03.32`	`kim0`	`great thanks`
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`23:09.57`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: Would you please be kind enough to check out this paste ... http://fpaste.org/paste/3738 ... My zapata.conf and the * error .. Thansk`
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`23:10.44`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: Would you please be kind enough to check out this paste ... http://fpaste.org/paste/3738 ... My zapata.conf and the * error .. Thansk`
`23:12.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: #include zapata-auto.conf <-----------`
`23:13.44`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: Thanks http://fpaste.org/paste/3739 (zapata-auto)`
`23:14.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: looks ok. pastebin "zap show status" , "zap show channels" , "zap shoe channel 1"`
`23:15.02`	`kim0`	`okie`
`23:15.59`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: http://fpaste.org/paste/3740`
`23:17.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: "show channels concise"`
`23:18.30`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: it's empty !`
`23:18.35`	`kim0`	`returns nothing`
`23:18.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: thats fine`
`23:19.13`	`kim0`	`I'm starting to think I have a big problem :D`
`23:19.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: Completely restart * in case you haven't since setting the group, etc`
`23:19.49`	`kim0`	`what's the best way to do that ?`
`23:20.37`	`path_`	`is it possible to see who's registered on asterisk through the CLI?`
`23:20.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: "restart now"`
`23:20.56`	`path_`	`I'm thinking about doing a perl/agi script to show them on a web`
`23:21.20`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: done .. anything else ?`
`23:21.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: thats it`
`23:21.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: when in doubt address the channel driectly.`
`23:21.50`	`kim0`	`zap/0/1 ?`
`23:21.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: Also be aware the ports on the back might not be in the order you think they are`
`23:22.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: Zap/1/1234567890)`
`23:22.24`	`path_`	`got it, sip show subscriptions :-)`
`23:22.41`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: u mentioned zap/0/xxxxxx is for group 0 right ?`
`23:22.55`	`kim0`	`how to address a specific channel then ..`
`23:23.00`	`kim0`	`not a group`
`23:23.30`	`Corydon76-dig`	`kim0: No, zap/g0/xxxxxx is for a specific group`
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`23:23.41`	`kim0`	`ah`
`23:24.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: My bad`
`23:24.04`	`Corydon76-dig`	`Numeric only is a specific channel`
`23:24.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: l("SIP/6000-0906f278", "ZAP/0/24017500\|300\|") in new stack`
`23:24.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: I thoguht I saw a g in front`
`23:24.21`	`kim0`	`ah ..`
`23:24.25`	`Corydon76-dig`	`and "Zap/0" does not exist`
`23:24.31`	`kim0`	`ick ... 1 then`
`23:24.36`	`kim0`	`trying`
`23:24.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: indeed that is jsut wrong and should either be "g0" for the group (if you have more than 1 channel), or just "1"`
`23:25.26`	`kim0`	`OMG`
`23:25.30`	`kim0`	`phone rings :D`
`23:25.39`	`kim0`	`[TK]D-Fender: Corydon76-dig Thanks guys :D`
`23:25.48`	`kim0`	`You're the best`
`23:25.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: Glad to hear`
`23:28.13`	`kim0`	`zoiper is a pertty good cross-platform softclient right ?`
`23:29.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kim0: its "ok"`
`23:29.11`	`kim0`	`what would be your recommendation`
`23:29.37`	`MaliutaLap`	`kim0: have they released a 64bit version yet?`
`23:29.49`	`kim0`	`dunno really .. why would that matter :D`
`23:30.10`	`kim0`	`is it gonna crunch big numbers ?!`
`23:31.46`	`kim0`	`any recommended softclient ?`
`23:31.49`	`MaliutaLap`	`kim0: there is no 64bit linux version of zoiper`
`23:32.00`	`kim0`	`wouldn't the 32 bit one run too`
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`23:32.30`	`kim0`	`MaliutaLap: what else r u using ? ekiga ?`
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`23:34.17`	`MaliutaLap`	`cisco 7940`
`23:34.32`	`MaliutaLap`	`digium tmd400`
`23:34.56`	`kim0`	`I meant for soft-clients`
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`23:35.20`	`MaliutaLap`	`how about you try a few and see which one suits your needs`
`23:36.24`	`kim0`	`tried X-lite .. on linux wasn't too good ... zoiper seems ok/good ... twinkle on kde is fine but I don't think it has video`
`23:38.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~ekiga`
`23:38.34`	`jbot`	`[~ekiga] Ekiga is an OSS SIP soft-phone for Windows, MacOSX, and Linux (Requires GTK+ which is included with the binary releases) that can be found at http://www.ekiga.org`
`23:41.20`	`kim0`	`last I checked (ver 3.0) ... echo cancellation sucked hard @ ekiga`
`23:42.39`	`mchou`	`kim0: I doubt there is any softphone on linux that has decent echo cancellation`
`23:43.00`	`kim0`	`mchou: is there any for windows at least ?`
`23:43.15`	`mchou`	`kim0: wouldnt know. dont use it`
`23:43.45`	`kim0`	`head phones it is then :)`
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`23:54.52`	`ManxPower`	`sound card EC is not needed since there should be no echo (not a 2-wire link) and by the time the far end echo arrives, it's too late to cancel it. You need to EC at the PSTN/VoIP conversion point.`
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`23:55.57`	`ManxPower`	`There really isn't anything you can do with accoustic echo`
`23:56.27`	`mchou`	`ManxPower: so how do full duplex speakerphones work?`
`23:56.35`	`coppice`	`maker's of conferencing phones would be surprised to hear that`
`23:56.48`	`mchou`	`coppice: lol`
`23:56.50`	`ManxPower`	`mchou: I meant in a softphone.`
`23:57.08`	`ManxPower`	`hardphones do acoustic EC just fine, but only the expensive ones do it full duplex.`
`23:58.41`	`coppice`	`the only issue with acoustic echo cancellation in softphones is a lot of sound cards work in a way that prevents echo cancellation from working. for other cards it works well`
`23:59.02`	`ManxPower`	`coppice is the expert in these matters`
`23:59.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`indeed`

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