| 00:04.10 | docid | [TK]D-Fender, thanks for pointing out i was being a bit stupid, it made me go double check everything and i found my problem, i missed a comma |
| 00:09.24 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: why don't you look at their website before you tell someone to call them? |
| 00:09.46 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: if you had, you'd know that THERE'S NO PHONE NUMBER ON THEIR WEBSITE |
| 00:10.05 | brunner | f0ner00t: yo |
| 00:10.23 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: Did I say their website would have it listed? You saying you can't find a company's phone number? |
| 00:10.38 | [TK]D-Fender | bruEvery heard of 411? How about corporate directories? |
| 00:11.09 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: Don't think so limited. |
| 00:11.10 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: Of course I can find phone numbers for them. I racked up $15 in phone calls trying to get a hold of someone yesterday, once I found some working numbers. |
| 00:11.30 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: you're the one "thinking limited"... I dare you to try to contact them |
| 00:11.54 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: How am I thinking limited? I come up with plenty of alternatives |
| 00:12.18 | f0ner00t | How are you brunner. |
| 00:12.19 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: none of which work. You just live in a very naive world, that's all. |
| 00:12.27 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: It's okay, I won't make fun of you. |
| 00:12.32 | brunner | f0ner00t: well, thanks. yourself? |
| 00:12.35 | *** join/#asterisk apeiron (n=apeiron@c-76-124-252-61.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:12.48 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: http://www.telmexusa.com/us/ <- these guys? |
| 00:12.53 | f0ner00t | brunner: Doing alright. Configuring stuff. |
| 00:12.56 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: No. That's the US company. |
| 00:13.22 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: So point me to the page you first assumed I'd limit my search to (which I wouldn't) |
| 00:13.37 | brunner | lol... now you want me to use Google for you? |
| 00:13.59 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: you can't find a company's website? |
| 00:14.16 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: If I'm naive for thinking I can't get my hands on information on a company out there then you may as wll give up all hope. Apparently everything you try will fail so why bother? You are very negative about your approach to this. |
| 00:14.42 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: well I DID find a division, but you weren't real specific and which one you wanted. |
| 00:14.43 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: not at all. I haven't given up. I was just checking to see if anyone else has experience with them. |
| 00:14.58 | brunner | (06:46:23 PM) brunner: Could someone help me figure out how much Telmex charges for E1's or PRI's? |
| 00:15.08 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: you think Telmex USA uses E1's? |
| 00:15.24 | brunner | (07:11:10 PM) brunner: [TK]D-Fender: Of course I can find phone numbers for them. I racked up $15 in phone calls trying to get a hold of someone yesterday, once I found some working numbers. |
| 00:15.25 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: Know how much they charge is not asking for experience. |
| 00:15.39 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: you think those were domestic calls that cost $15? |
| 00:15.44 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: Same as saying that I know I can get a Cisco phone for $250 doesn't mean I know their phones. |
| 00:15.52 | [TK]D-Fender | bruThat was a pretexted question |
| 00:16.28 | [TK]D-Fender | bruBut either way are you going to say what site you were starting from or not? |
| 00:16.40 | brunner | someone who has experience with them would very likely have a ballpark idea of what they charge |
| 00:17.01 | brunner | [TK]D-Fender: http://www.telmex.com/mx/ |
| 00:17.08 | brunner | there are several |
| 00:17.36 | brunner | http://www.telmexinternacional.com/ |
| 00:17.52 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: OK, I'm on a "contact me" form. You been there? |
| 00:18.12 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 00:18.22 | brunner | yep, I haven't been called yet and I filled it out several days ago |
| 00:19.37 | [TK]D-Fender | brunner: Did you call the US headquarters asking for information for your target zone? |
| 00:19.58 | [TK]D-Fender | or to be transferred as it should be at no cost or trouble |
| 00:20.12 | brunner | yes. |
| 00:20.12 | brunner | several times |
| 00:20.22 | brunner | and got various different numbers for all sorts of things that didn't help |
| 00:21.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Only choice where you're shopping? |
| 00:21.17 | brunner | yep, unfortunately |
| 00:21.41 | brunner | I looked into and VoIP to GSM gateway, which I could do, but the cheapest I've seen is $.07/min |
| 00:22.06 | brunner | and there are SIP trunking services that will terminate calls for $.06 and $.02 in some places, so there must be a way they're doing it |
| 00:22.12 | brunner | and it's not GSM, lol |
| 00:23.48 | *** part/#asterisk macli (n=macli@nmc.brc.ubc.ca) |
| 00:24.40 | JSpom | I'm having trouble with a dynamic SIP client. It seems to work fine, but I get this error every 20 seconds: http://tinypaste.com/6e002 |
| 00:25.44 | troy- | anyone here a canadian CLEC? |
| 00:27.25 | [TK]D-Fender | JSpom: You have a junk register statement with "@dynamic" in it. Completely non-valid |
| 00:28.53 | JSpom | a junk register statement? |
| 00:29.32 | [TK]D-Fender | JSpom: BAD |
| 00:30.26 | JSpom | What should I put for the host in my users.conf? |
| 00:33.31 | [TK]D-Fender | JSpom: That's really the entry for a PHONE you have, isn't it? |
| 00:34.06 | [TK]D-Fender | JSpom: You set your users.conf entry to try to register to **IT**. You should not |
| 00:34.25 | [TK]D-Fender | JSpom: I believe the parm is "sipregister" or similar. It should be set to "no" |
| 00:35.29 | JSpom | Yes, it's for a remote SIP phone |
| 00:37.48 | *** join/#asterisk ingenius (n=alektro@190.31.44.131) |
| 00:41.29 | [TK]D-Fender | JSpom: Well * should not be registering to it. The phone should register to * |
| 00:45.02 | Cyorxamp | How might I do... if variable A isn't variable B then hangup ? |
| 00:45.16 | *** part/#asterisk `paul (n=kutimoy@121.97.99.151) |
| 00:45.48 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: "core show application if", and read that doc I tol you to earlier |
| 00:46.52 | Cyorxamp | execif says voip-info nice |
| 00:51.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Yes, execif |
| 00:51.37 | Cyorxamp | != doesn't work for not |
| 00:51.41 | Cyorxamp | hmm |
| 00:52.01 | Cyorxamp | and that thing you told me to run just gives me "Your application(s) is (are) not registered" |
| 00:52.11 | Cyorxamp | what do I use for NOT ? |
| 00:52.22 | Cyorxamp | <> maybe ? |
| 00:53.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Something is wrong buy you aren't showing us. |
| 00:53.37 | Cyorxamp | ? |
| 00:53.48 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Hello. |
| 00:53.54 | Cyorxamp | no when I tab to list applications... if isn't one of them |
| 00:54.03 | Cyorxamp | probably classed as something else |
| 00:54.15 | Cyorxamp | ExecIf($[${password} != ${vmpass}]|Hangup) |
| 00:54.22 | Cyorxamp | will that work for NOT? |
| 00:54.29 | jer | troy-, still looking for one? |
| 00:55.20 | Cyorxamp | shame theres no ExecIfNot |
| 00:55.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Your syntax is wrong, read the instructions again. |
| 00:55.40 | Cyorxamp | no just != is wrong |
| 00:55.54 | Cyorxamp | and Hangup has no data, and this isn't 1.6 it's 1.4 |
| 00:55.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: No, MORE is wrong |
| 00:56.06 | Cyorxamp | so the pipe is right |
| 00:56.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: And the pipe is still a bad idea, but not the issue |
| 00:56.50 | Cyorxamp | can I use ? on 1.4? |
| 00:56.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: what? |
| 00:57.07 | Cyorxamp | can I use ? instead of | on 1.,4? |
| 00:57.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: "\" was phased out for ",". ">" is something completely separate |
| 00:57.40 | [TK]D-Fender | ? RATHER |
| 00:57.49 | Cyorxamp | hmm I'm not on about any of those symbols |
| 00:58.08 | Cyorxamp | you confuse me and your docs don't seem to existr |
| 00:58.13 | Cyorxamp | goes back to google |
| 00:58.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: pastebin the apps instructions and your dialplan and your failed call attempt |
| 00:58.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: NO GOOGLE. |
| 00:58.28 | Cyorxamp | google is my friend |
| 00:58.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: All the information you seek is on your server |
| 00:58.40 | Cyorxamp | google has examples |
| 00:58.44 | Cyorxamp | nice understandable examples |
| 00:58.46 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Go to CLI like I told you and pastebin its instructions |
| 00:58.51 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Got my sip.conf setup. Now I just have to get my extensions set up,. |
| 00:58.57 | Cyorxamp | sings |
| 00:59.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Yes many websites have examples ... of old shit syntax that no longer applies. |
| 00:59.26 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Now do as I have suggested |
| 00:59.45 | Cyorxamp | thats because asterisk dial plan has always been a nightmare and you could never make your minds up |
| 00:59.59 | Cyorxamp | which is why I require learning as little as possible, who knows what it'll be like in 1,8! |
| 01:00.00 | Cyorxamp | lol |
| 01:00.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: stop whining and pastebin it al already |
| 01:00.20 | Cyorxamp | pastebin a doc you've already got I can't access? |
| 01:00.26 | Cyorxamp | great, I'll get right on that |
| 01:01.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: You can't access? Pardon? |
| 01:01.32 | f0ner00t | Why are you so cranky [TK]D-Fender ? |
| 01:02.23 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: putting up with people who can't follow simple instructions when they are even hand-fed to them. |
| 01:02.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Well? |
| 01:02.46 | Cyorxamp | well what! |
| 01:02.49 | slaney | heh |
| 01:03.05 | Cyorxamp | you crazy! :D |
| 01:03.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Why is it you "can't access"? |
| 01:03.17 | Cyorxamp | I already told you |
| 01:03.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Not that I could see, feel free to refresh my memory..... |
| 01:04.20 | Cyorxamp | <[TK]D-Fender> Cyorxamp: "core show application if", and read that |
| 01:04.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: "core show application execif" |
| 01:04.26 | Cyorxamp | <Cyorxamp> no when I tab to list applications... it isn't one of |
| 01:04.37 | Cyorxamp | <[TK]D-Fender> Cyorxamp: pastebin the apps instructions |
| 01:04.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: And I confirmed the typo, holy shit, find an IQ and CHANGE IT :p |
| 01:04.58 | [TK]D-Fender | unload chan_codependence.so |
| 01:05.14 | Cyorxamp | you didn't correct it |
| 01:05.22 | Cyorxamp | you just said 'yes' to me looking at voip-info |
| 01:05.35 | [TK]D-Fender | [20:51]<[TK]D-Fender>Cyorxamp: Yes, execif |
| 01:05.36 | Cyorxamp | which is very handy |
| 01:05.49 | Cyorxamp | <Cyorxamp> execif says voip-info nice |
| 01:05.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Your sense of context is pretty shitty |
| 01:05.57 | Cyorxamp | so is yours |
| 01:06.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Go to CLI and read the instructions, and you'll realize the "?" is IMPORTANT in that line |
| 01:06.25 | [TK]D-Fender | best of luck, I'm off for a while |
| 01:06.37 | Cyorxamp | bye, seek awareness my child |
| 01:06.43 | Cyorxamp | or get hit by a brick - I don't mind |
| 01:06.45 | Cyorxamp | either one |
| 01:07.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Child? Hardly. |
| 01:07.26 | Cyorxamp | this info on execif I've already read |
| 01:07.34 | Cyorxamp | your ideas are completely fruitness you know |
| 01:07.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: pastebin it. |
| 01:07.39 | Cyorxamp | *fruitless too |
| 01:07.53 | Cyorxamp | http://rafb.net/p/Xms7rb39.html |
| 01:08.40 | Cyorxamp | and? so? what? who? where? |
| 01:08.54 | Cyorxamp | I've blindly done as you've asked now for no apparent reason |
| 01:09.14 | [TK]D-Fender | cyocyoExcept I never saw your failed attempt |
| 01:09.30 | Cyorxamp | my failed attempt at what? |
| 01:09.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: at using it |
| 01:09.51 | Cyorxamp | using execif? |
| 01:10.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Yes. |
| 01:10.06 | Cyorxamp | ffs you just don't read |
| 01:10.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyo the complete call attempt |
| 01:10.17 | Cyorxamp | I've already pasted it |
| 01:10.18 | [TK]D-Fender | COMPLETE call attempt |
| 01:10.38 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Ahh well. I have a lot of knowledge just for someone who is starting off learning how to configure a asterisk box it is overwhelming. Maybe you should stick with the DEVEL channel. hhaha! |
| 01:10.57 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: You have been help ful though and i thank you for that. |
| 01:10.58 | Cyorxamp | [TK]D-Fender, what the frig does that matter |
| 01:11.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Where is the link? |
| 01:11.12 | Cyorxamp | my question was how a NOT is performed |
| 01:11.29 | Cyorxamp | maybe != or <> but you have no answers for this however much it is asked |
| 01:11.34 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: You want to see why the person on your floor is dead, let the coroner bloody well examine the body. |
| 01:11.35 | Cyorxamp | so back to google I go... |
| 01:13.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Your error had nothing to do with "not", and " !=" is the proper syntax |
| 01:13.48 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (n=jon@adsl-99-139-235-165.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:14.03 | f0ner00t | I hate ATT> |
| 01:14.13 | Cyorxamp | your an utterly shit communicator too you know - because thats the first time you've pointed out != is meant to work |
| 01:14.24 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: [17:17]<[TK]D-Fender>Cyorxamp: go read the CHANNELVARIABLES dos in your DOC folder. |
| 01:14.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: And I told you to read that doc 4 hours ago |
| 01:14.36 | Cyorxamp | PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE PASTE |
| 01:14.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: You are incredibly resistant to doing anything you are suggested to in an attempt to HELP you. |
| 01:15.02 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 01:15.15 | Cyorxamp | I'm resistant to people who don't look like they are helping |
| 01:15.27 | Cyorxamp | Usually they haven't a clue and lead you down a stupid path |
| 01:15.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: you don't think reading specific docs you are told to will help? |
| 01:15.44 | Cyorxamp | The helpies can be dumb but so can the helpers |
| 01:16.08 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Well they aren't useless, and you have been ignoring the very help you are asking for because you just htink you know it all. |
| 01:16.13 | Cyorxamp | anyway I've used execif correctly |
| 01:16.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Really? Then why the error? |
| 01:16.28 | Cyorxamp | except no data part but then hangup doesn't need data |
| 01:17.16 | docid | damn fender, im amazed how much hell you go through to help people and your always here, ya keep coming back, thanks man... |
| 01:17.19 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: So show us the complete failed attempt and maybe we will see something you don't |
| 01:17.47 | Cyorxamp | -- Executing [*321@from-cyorxamp:7] ExecIf("SIP/202-b58839d0", "0|Hangup()") in new stack |
| 01:18.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: the () is not valid <- |
| 01:18.03 | Cyorxamp | tada! that 0 should be a 1 when those variables arn't the same... and hang up |
| 01:18.13 | [TK]D-Fender | CyNones said to put BRACKETS in there |
| 01:18.14 | Cyorxamp | with or without the () it still doesn't work |
| 01:18.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Try again and please include the following ewrror as well... |
| 01:19.07 | Cyorxamp | take off the hangup brackets and same problem |
| 01:19.16 | Cyorxamp | I already told you that, and I've just recreated it |
| 01:19.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Also, while Hangup does not require parameters, ExecIf requires THREE |
| 01:19.45 | Cyorxamp | and theres no data to pass to hangup |
| 01:19.57 | Cyorxamp | tries an extra pipe for the sake of it |
| 01:20.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: You still need 3, even if the 3rd is blank |
| 01:20.11 | Cyorxamp | your telling me everything I know and was gonna try anyway |
| 01:20.20 | Cyorxamp | why the fuck couldn't you just leave me alone to google |
| 01:20.33 | Cyorxamp | still don't work |
| 01:20.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Oh you know it all... guess we shouldn't bother telling you things we should know you were going to do anyways. Unfortunately we're only psychic on TUESDAYS |
| 01:21.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Cyorxamp: Why ask for help, you bite the hand that feeds. |
| 01:21.10 | Cyorxamp | because the hand isn't feeding? |
| 01:21.13 | Cyorxamp | it's linking lol |
| 01:21.15 | CapriCoRN^80 | i have setup my Cisco ATA 188 with sip user. i can call from ata 188 but cant receiv call .. i dont see it when i do sip show peers |
| 01:21.50 | CapriCoRN^80 | any body had this kind of problem ? |
| 01:30.06 | f0ner00t | sudo [TK]D-Fender What file is for sip registration? |
| 01:31.14 | f0ner00t | Anybody? |
| 01:32.34 | CapriCoRN^80 | sip.conf |
| 01:32.45 | f0ner00t | I might see my issue. |
| 01:33.10 | *** join/#asterisk quant0r (n=quant0r@75.119.251.155) |
| 01:33.58 | *** join/#asterisk stoked (n=df@S01060016b62857a6.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 01:34.14 | stoked | hi all, I'm on 1.6.0.6 and I'm trying to use the useragent setting but my wireshark dumps show that it's never used |
| 01:34.50 | f0ner00t | locate modu |
| 01:40.47 | f0ner00t | Hmmp |
| 01:45.11 | stoked | anyone? |
| 01:47.08 | *** join/#asterisk joshhunt (i=dceb6690@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e03bcdce48639ce) |
| 01:47.50 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 01:52.09 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir_ (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 01:55.08 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@46.166.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 01:56.17 | Cyorxamp | Documented is how Read can't read in a # - this is fine... but it can't read in a star either |
| 01:56.23 | Cyorxamp | is there a way around that? |
| 01:57.14 | slaney | I am guessing that english is not your first language, but I can't parse that sentence |
| 01:58.17 | Cyorxamp | Asterisk Documentation on the command "read" shows it won't accept # as in input, but it says nothing about accepting * |
| 01:58.23 | Cyorxamp | However keying in a * disconnects the call |
| 01:58.27 | Cyorxamp | How why who what where when |
| 01:58.35 | Cyorxamp | better? |
| 01:59.02 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 01:59.05 | jblack | * is reserved for features.conf, isn't it? |
| 01:59.52 | troy- | jer, yep - still looking |
| 02:00.39 | Cyorxamp | jblack, dunno is it? |
| 02:01.27 | jblack | I think so. |
| 02:01.57 | joshhunt | Hey guys |
| 02:02.20 | joshhunt | Im a complet newb to all this, so forgive me for the stupid questions |
| 02:03.28 | jer | troy-, no luck with unlimitel? |
| 02:03.46 | troy- | they are on my list - i was hoping for someone like allstream |
| 02:03.50 | joshhunt | If i set up a astrisk machine, give it one of these http://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/ and hook it up to my phone line, i could call into the astrisk machine via my home number, right? |
| 02:04.54 | *** join/#asterisk [gquit]bombadil (n=dana@CPE-70-94-44-157.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 02:05.01 | slaney | is anyone use les.net? Any problems? Concerns? |
| 02:05.07 | slaney | *using |
| 02:08.55 | *** join/#asterisk ew01f (n=chatzill@201.170.12.47) |
| 02:12.08 | *** join/#asterisk ingenius (n=alektro@host131.190-31-44.telecom.net.ar) |
| 02:19.59 | *** join/#asterisk guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) |
| 02:20.01 | *** join/#asterisk bbryant (n=brett@c-68-59-20-153.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) |
| 02:21.17 | joshhunt | Anyone care to answer my query? |
| 02:22.36 | *** join/#asterisk Vec (n=Vec@196-210-172-92-rrba-esr-3.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) |
| 02:24.01 | Kobaz | anyone have any issues with using 1.6 in production |
| 02:24.44 | *** join/#asterisk outtolunc (n=me@166.129.126.165) |
| 02:32.49 | jaytee | joshhunt, if you hook it to your phone line how can you possibly call into it via your home number? arent the two the same line? |
| 02:40.45 | joshhunt | jaytee: Well, i dont know |
| 02:40.49 | joshhunt | this is why i am asking |
| 02:41.01 | joshhunt | not call from my home number |
| 02:41.12 | joshhunt | call my home number and get astrisk deals with the call |
| 02:43.30 | jaytee | yeah, if you get this card with an FXO module you can "phone home" and Asterisk can answer the call http://www.digium.com/en/products/analog/tdm410.php |
| 02:43.31 | joshhunt | would that be possible? |
| 02:43.42 | joshhunt | huh... |
| 02:43.43 | joshhunt | thanks |
| 02:44.03 | jaytee | if you want to hook up a standard analog phone then you'd order the card with an FXS module too. that card can handle 4 modules |
| 02:44.29 | jaytee | so you could have 4 FXO mods for 4 phone lines or 1 FXO and 3 FXS for 1 line and 3 phones |
| 02:45.01 | joshhunt | oh ok |
| 02:46.13 | jaytee | You could get a Linksys SPA-3102 which has 1 FXO port and 1 FXS port and connects to Asterisk via SIP over ethernet. They run about 70 bucks which would be cheaper than the 410 card |
| 02:47.58 | joshhunt | ahh ok |
| 02:48.01 | joshhunt | thanks |
| 02:49.09 | jblack | Phone lines from the phone company are so expensive. |
| 02:50.24 | Magicblaze007 | jaytee: To make a SPA-3102 is not easy! |
| 02:50.46 | Magicblaze007 | I've never used the 410 card...anyone here who has. |
| 02:51.44 | jblack | Forget all that expensive hardware. Go voip, and get sip phones. |
| 02:51.47 | jaytee | Magicblaze007, to make it work with Asterisk? it's not as easy as setting up a 410 card certainly, but it can be done. If it was me and money wasn't that tight I'd save myself the headache of configuring the Linksys and buy a Digium card |
| 02:52.37 | jaytee | jblack, that may be an option but it's up to him whether or not he ditches his home landline |
| 02:53.11 | jblack | True. |
| 02:54.16 | phix | jaytee: SPA-3102 :S I have one, I wasn't impressed |
| 02:54.51 | *** part/#asterisk joshhunt (i=dceb6690@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e03bcdce48639ce) |
| 02:54.52 | jaytee | I use alot of their 2102's and a few 8000's around the zoo |
| 02:54.56 | phix | I use a TDM2400p now, alot better quality and volume, no echos either |
| 02:56.24 | *** join/#asterisk Magicblaze007 (n=sony@fl-67-233-204-182.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 02:56.29 | jaytee | phix, my work is an actual zoo. the campus environment makes it impractical to load up the * server with analog cards. running SIP to outbuildings is more efficient and gets away from using the buried telco cable that is 20 years old and seriously degrading. |
| 02:56.32 | Magicblaze007 | jaytee: My SPA-3102 still doesn't work....i followed the instructions line by line...i know I will get it to work...just won't buy it again. |
| 02:57.01 | jaytee | Magicblaze007, have you looked on Voxilla? |
| 02:57.44 | Magicblaze007 | I've heard of it...saw the book...but haven't tried it yet...I'm very new...just started to play with freepbx...pbxinaflash... |
| 02:57.47 | drmessano | SPA-3102 is easy |
| 02:58.06 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 02:58.14 | jaytee | easy if your name is drmessano :-) |
| 02:58.21 | drmessano | But since he has me blocked |
| 02:58.28 | drmessano | PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME |
| 02:58.39 | jaytee | who has you blocked? |
| 02:58.40 | coppice | an SPA3102 is as easy to set up as any other SIP device, though all SIP devices are pretty confusing the first time |
| 02:58.53 | drmessano | Magicblaze007 has me on ignore |
| 02:58.55 | drmessano | :( |
| 02:58.58 | jaytee | ah |
| 02:59.01 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 02:59.05 | drmessano | PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME |
| 02:59.14 | *** part/#asterisk Magicblaze007 (n=sony@fl-67-233-204-182.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 02:59.19 | jaytee | mmmm, I like the Honey Roast with Smuckers Red Raspberry Jam |
| 03:00.22 | slaney | wtf, now I am hungry |
| 03:00.39 | *** join/#asterisk t0rrieri (n=Torrieri@nelug/crew/torrieri) |
| 03:23.44 | phix | jaytee: true, I actually prefer IP phones, but of corse they are expensive for decent ones |
| 03:23.55 | phix | drmessano: :) |
| 03:24.33 | phix | jaytee: hehe Jam, I take it you arnt from the US :) |
| 03:29.04 | jblack | Know what's even better than an IP phone? |
| 03:29.18 | phix | what? |
| 03:29.30 | jblack | You piss off every single person you know and end up getting no calls. ever. Your phone costs drop through the floor. |
| 03:29.44 | phix | that could work |
| 03:30.02 | jblack | I speak authoritively. It does. I don't know why I keep a phone at all. ;) |
| 03:31.08 | coppice | If you piss off everyone who ever calls, eventually you can guarantee any caller is a telemarketer |
| 03:31.16 | *** join/#asterisk CunningPike (n=CunningP@S01060014bf81366b.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 03:31.21 | jblack | what's a telemarketer? |
| 03:31.52 | jblack | Someone that markets over the phone? Hell, son, you underestimate me. _Companies_ hate me too. :) |
| 03:32.45 | jaytee | phix, not from the US? umm, we eat jam here too |
| 03:32.47 | jblack | I don't even get much junk mail any more. |
| 03:34.34 | *** join/#asterisk maximo_ (n=maximo@CPE001217b1920e-CM00111ade9528.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:34.38 | jaytee | three or four time answering the phone for a telemarketer like "Hi, this is Julie from ABC company. I'm calling you with a great offer." "Hi, Julie! Do you like anal?" |
| 03:34.51 | jaytee | will get you on THEIR do not call list |
| 03:35.57 | jblack | yup. |
| 03:36.29 | jblack | All it takes is a handful of highly personal questions, and an offer to hop in the car and pick them up from work. |
| 03:37.21 | jblack | And anybody that mails me a postage paid envelope gets refunded their initial postage cost.. In pennies. |
| 03:38.51 | *** join/#asterisk SunnyDP (n=scan@bas7-montrealak-1128545017.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 03:39.10 | *** join/#asterisk path_ (n=path_@pc-179-246-86-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 03:41.38 | blackest_mamba | anyboyd use a quickphone wireless phone? |
| 03:42.12 | blackest_mamba | I can't get asterisk to recognize the DTMF tone |
| 03:42.20 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir_ (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 03:42.53 | blackest_mamba | extentsion is setup for rfc2833 |
| 03:43.01 | blackest_mamba | manufacturer says the phone is putting out rfc2833 |
| 03:43.04 | blackest_mamba | no go |
| 03:43.34 | brunner | does anyone know what this beta program was about about? http://www.astricon.net/2008/glendale/web/skype.php |
| 03:43.43 | blackest_mamba | Nothing shows up in the log |
| 03:44.07 | *** join/#asterisk ELBunce (n=erik@kde/developer/bunce) |
| 03:46.33 | jblack | brunner: Skype is talking about offering sip for businesses. |
| 03:47.04 | brunner | jblack: where? |
| 03:47.25 | brunner | they have the cheapest rates to Mexico by far |
| 03:48.20 | *** join/#asterisk lanning (n=lanning@173.8.187.197) |
| 03:55.05 | JSpom | Could someone test to see if they can make a sip call to 6000@tynan.net? |
| 03:56.08 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 03:58.22 | brunner | JSpom: I'm connected |
| 03:59.34 | JSpom | awesome, thank you |
| 03:59.43 | JSpom | would you mind trying 2890@tynan.net too? |
| 03:59.45 | phix | jaytee: really? I thought you ate jelly |
| 03:59.59 | brunner | Tynan sounds like a crackhead. |
| 04:00.11 | JSpom | thanks. |
| 04:00.20 | phix | jaytee: and called, what I call jelly, jello |
| 04:00.30 | brunner | JSpom: np |
| 04:00.46 | drmessano | KY Jello |
| 04:00.48 | drmessano | Oh god |
| 04:00.50 | drmessano | Thats so gross |
| 04:01.02 | jaytee | we have jelly and jam here |
| 04:01.53 | jaytee | jelly is purified and jam is just fruit that's been boiled and mashed up to a spreadable consistency |
| 04:02.09 | jaytee | and then we have jello but that's just a dessert food |
| 04:02.34 | Maliuta | from my experiences in north america ... what you call jelly _is_ a jam |
| 04:02.57 | drmessano | Not true |
| 04:03.14 | drmessano | Jelly contains no pieces of frut |
| 04:03.16 | drmessano | fruit |
| 04:03.56 | drmessano | and as far as KY Jello.. Now I have visions of Bill Cosby making KY Jello jigglers for kids |
| 04:04.00 | drmessano | and thats disturbing |
| 04:04.14 | drmessano | Thank you drmessano for putting that in my head |
| 04:04.18 | drmessano | You sicko |
| 04:04.25 | drmessano | oh, wait.. |
| 04:09.28 | raden_work | whats TTL in the ping field and is there anyt relevant relation to VOIP quality and TTL ? |
| 04:11.20 | florz | .o() |
| 04:12.00 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 04:12.02 | florz | raden_work: seriously, get some book on ip networking basics before dimensioning voip systems |
| 04:12.33 | *** join/#asterisk Tsion (n=scott@botters/staff/tsion) |
| 04:12.55 | raden_work | that was helpful |
| 04:13.08 | McDarren | or type man ping |
| 04:13.24 | Tsion | SIP, VOIP, etc are really confusing :/ |
| 04:13.47 | raden_work | McDarren, thank you :) |
| 04:13.53 | drmessano | TTL means Time to Least, which tells you how long the shortest length from ping to pong sans pong to ping exists over said IP circuit |
| 04:14.15 | drmessano | Too many TTLs on a CAT5 will cause codec dropouts |
| 04:14.45 | drmessano | you can set TTL=no in sip.conf to ignore TTLs and only use UDPs for dimensioning |
| 04:15.37 | drmessano | florz: Does that sum it up? |
| 04:17.16 | *** join/#asterisk werdan7 (i=werdan7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7) |
| 04:21.35 | florz | drmessano: yeah, I think that sounds reasonable :-) |
| 04:22.26 | McDarren | except s/Least/Live/; |
| 04:24.11 | florz | McDarren: Uh? That doesn't make any sense ... |
| 04:24.58 | florz | Well, yeah, of course, TTL actually stands for Transistor-Transistor-Logic ... but I guess everybody knows that anyhow ... |
| 04:25.14 | drmessano | 5v FTW |
| 04:25.21 | florz | *g* |
| 04:28.47 | *** join/#asterisk Kisu (n=k@daniel1117.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 04:29.22 | *** join/#asterisk Badrobot- (i=Badrobot@cpe-76-173-233-75.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 04:29.39 | McDarren | florz: what doesn't make sense? |
| 04:30.27 | florz | McDarren: Well, what's "Time to Live" supposed mean?!? |
| 04:30.44 | drmessano | Ive never heard such hooey |
| 04:31.31 | florz | I mean, nearly sounds like the internet was some biological system or something ... |
| 04:32.26 | McDarren | Time to Live represents the number of hops remaining before an IP packet is thrown away. So, how long it has to "live" |
| 04:32.34 | McDarren | makes perfect sense to me |
| 04:34.22 | drmessano | Why isnt it "Time Til Die"? That makes more sense in your analogy of this "living" binary nonsense |
| 04:34.46 | drmessano | Quite frankly, I think you'rr trying to mislead us |
| 04:35.05 | florz | McDarren: No, it doesn't. As per RFC it says how many of the maximum of (seconds,hops) it allowed to continue to exist. When you've grasped that, please go read some good introductory book on the concepts of irony and sarcasm. |
| 04:36.13 | florz | +is, I guess |
| 04:36.28 | McDarren | Which RFC would that be, florz? |
| 04:36.44 | McDarren | (and I was just referrring to the ping man page) |
| 04:37.28 | drmessano | RFC 1122, I believe |
| 04:37.46 | florz | McDarren: RFC 791 |
| 04:37.52 | McDarren | ta |
| 04:38.20 | drmessano | Ah |
| 04:38.41 | drmessano | I had my layers wrong.. Special sauce, THEN lettuce |
| 04:38.44 | drmessano | Damn Big Macs |
| 04:39.08 | McDarren | oh, I see that the RFC also defines TTL as "Time to Live" |
| 04:39.24 | florz | No, that can not possibly be! |
| 04:39.24 | McDarren | "man ping" must be correct, then :) |
| 04:39.39 | florz | My copy says "Transistor Transistor Logic"! |
| 04:39.43 | drmessano | man irony and sarcasm |
| 04:39.47 | drmessano | then man humor |
| 04:53.15 | McDarren | nod |
| 04:54.33 | *** join/#asterisk stevetotaro (n=Steve@pool-72-72-143-197.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:55.53 | jaytee | so does each packet get checked to see if it still has a pulse when it hits a router? or does it just show up and the router checks it's watch and says, "Sorry, you're late!" and pulls a gun and shoots it? |
| 05:07.28 | *** join/#asterisk x_or (n=xrdawson@076-076-147-048.pdx.net) |
| 05:07.42 | *** join/#asterisk RypPn (n=Sally@rosscom.demon.co.uk) |
| 05:08.08 | x_or | I had to reconfigure my voicepulse account and now am getting this weird busy signal. Is there a good way to tell if asterisk is really connected to the voip provider? |
| 05:09.05 | x_or | I've been playing with "sip show peers" and "sip show channels" |
| 05:09.23 | x_or | They both show connections, but I am unsure if they show correct data. |
| 05:25.43 | *** join/#asterisk GameGamer43 (n=GameGame@cpe-66-67-181-68.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 05:37.51 | *** join/#asterisk columbo_ (n=columbo@pool-98-112-96-9.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 05:43.45 | *** join/#asterisk alexg-cnu (n=alexg@adsl-99-30-35-129.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:44.25 | alexg-cnu | having hard time passing callerid through SIP trunk to les.net |
| 05:45.09 | alexg-cnu | lesnet request setting fromuser to account#, and that overrides my callerid |
| 05:45.44 | alexg-cnu | is there another header I can pass desired callerid in? |
| 05:46.29 | *** join/#asterisk ingenius (n=alektro@host131.190-31-44.telecom.net.ar) |
| 05:53.04 | *** join/#asterisk GameGamer43 (n=GameGame@cpe-66-67-181-68.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 05:53.40 | *** join/#asterisk stevetotaro (n=Steve@pool-72-72-143-197.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 05:56.55 | *** join/#asterisk RypPn (i=TuMbL@rosscom.demon.co.uk) |
| 06:00.22 | *** join/#asterisk ew01f (n=angomg--@201.171.75.205) |
| 06:00.45 | *** join/#asterisk GameGamer43 (n=GameGame@cpe-66-67-181-68.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 06:23.46 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 06:41.34 | *** join/#asterisk SwK_ (n=SwK@user-69-1-12-195.knology.net) |
| 07:02.43 | *** join/#asterisk egypcio (n=egypcio@unaffiliated/egypcio) |
| 07:29.25 | *** join/#asterisk implicit (n=bayan@unaffiliated/implicit) |
| 07:35.14 | *** join/#asterisk mort___ (n=mort@user-54405220.wfd76b.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 07:35.28 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 07:55.37 | *** join/#asterisk shtoom (n=shtoom@124.123.18.143) |
| 08:00.48 | *** join/#asterisk j_kroon (n=jkroon@dsl-240-133-179.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 08:06.02 | *** join/#asterisk Sargun (n=Sargun@atarack/Staff/Sargun) |
| 08:07.08 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 08:15.05 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 08:15.13 | *** part/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 08:27.10 | *** join/#asterisk JSpom (i=jspom@cpe-0016cf36201a.cpe.cableonda.net) |
| 08:40.28 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 08:44.19 | *** join/#asterisk nighty^ (n=nighty@122.249.122.91) |
| 08:45.33 | *** join/#asterisk mort_gib (n=mjensen@16.Red-83-36-63.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:55.06 | *** join/#asterisk jiangjiwen (n=chatzill@219.133.78.145) |
| 08:59.41 | *** join/#asterisk mikkel (n=mikkel@84-238-113-66.u.parknet.dk) |
| 09:02.26 | *** join/#asterisk jiangjiwen (n=jiangjiw@219.133.78.145) |
| 09:11.28 | *** join/#asterisk Maliuta (n=scooby@kiev.lusan.id.au) |
| 09:16.05 | *** join/#asterisk workdraft (n=ian@124.106.184.10) |
| 09:16.30 | workdraft | anybody tried configuring asteriskNow with bandwidth.com? |
| 09:30.34 | jblack | This is precious. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0327092sham1.html |
| 09:30.45 | jblack | I'm not even going to summarize it. You have to read it yourself |
| 09:38.36 | j_kroon | I would like to offer a hosted Asterisk PBX on the 087 platform with all the features of Asterisk <-- i wonder whether this guy has an inkling of an idea of what he's asking?!? |
| 09:38.55 | j_kroon | ... all the features of Asterisk ... this guy seriously has no clue. |
| 09:39.43 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@46.166.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk) |
| 09:45.49 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@62.140.137.125) |
| 10:04.18 | *** join/#asterisk MACscr (n=Mark@c-98-214-92-79.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 10:05.35 | MACscr | I just installed asterisk 1.6 and I can call voicemail fine and hear the automated message, but when calling out I can't hear anything and when I receive a call from a cell, we can't hear each other. What should I be looking for? |
| 10:06.07 | MACscr | im using sip for origination and termination, I've gone as far as disabling the firewall on the server, but no difference |
| 10:06.20 | MACscr | I can't even hear the ivr when I call from my cell |
| 10:23.21 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 10:23.44 | brunner | Are call to Puerto Rico from the US typically considered international calls? |
| 10:34.21 | *** join/#asterisk ludan (n=daniele@unaffiliated/ludan) |
| 10:34.51 | ludan | hi |
| 10:38.29 | *** join/#asterisk mvanbaak (n=michiel@asterisk/contributor-and-bug-marshal/mvanbaak) |
| 11:06.47 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (n=chatzill@210.17.166.46) |
| 11:36.12 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 11:50.07 | MACscr | brunner: something like that |
| 11:50.19 | MACscr | even calls to hawaii and alaska are rated differently |
| 12:03.22 | *** join/#asterisk [ProB]CrazyMan (n=CrazyMan@mx50.roterschnee.com) |
| 12:08.56 | *** join/#asterisk CapriCoRN^80 (n=int@207.176.6.68) |
| 12:09.15 | CapriCoRN^80 | hi |
| 12:09.28 | CapriCoRN^80 | anyone has used CISCO ATA 188 _ |
| 12:11.37 | *** join/#asterisk zchaos (n=none@CPE001d7ef0ba9d-CM001ceab63f9a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 12:23.00 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 12:23.07 | lesouvage | I've just setup a new Debian basic system and follwed the instruction from guur like I did a lot of times before. With ./configure I got the message configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check while I did apt-get install cpp. Am I missing the obvious? Suggestions are very welcome. |
| 12:23.17 | lesouvage | guur=guru |
| 12:25.09 | *** join/#asterisk Magicblaze007 (n=sony@fl-67-233-204-182.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 12:30.33 | CapriCoRN^80 | lesouvage: check gcc |
| 12:31.14 | lesouvage | CapriCoRN^80: I don't seem to have the sourcecode of the kernel on my system. |
| 12:31.24 | *** join/#asterisk bminish (n=bminish@pdpc/supporter/professional/bminish) |
| 12:34.36 | *** join/#asterisk maximo_ (n=maximo@CPE001217b1920e-CM00111ade9528.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 12:35.20 | Magicblaze007 | lesouvage: ask in the particular distribution's room on how to get the kernel source. |
| 12:35.45 | Magicblaze007 | Does anyone know how can companies like voip buster make all calls to the US Free? |
| 12:36.15 | *** join/#asterisk wildzero-cw (n=Kristija@213.216.10.219) |
| 12:37.37 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: install build-essential |
| 12:37.58 | wildzero-cw | http://svn.digium.com/view is down? |
| 12:38.21 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: and install module-assistant and after that run m-a prepare |
| 12:38.34 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: that will take care of all the kernelsources and headers etc |
| 12:38.41 | lesouvage | mvanbaak:thanks a lot, that was the line I forgot |
| 12:39.18 | mvanbaak | :) |
| 12:39.35 | mvanbaak | damn, e164.org is annoying |
| 12:39.48 | mvanbaak | the iax probe they do does not send audio |
| 12:40.01 | mvanbaak | so I HAVE to use SIP to get my enum registration done |
| 12:40.03 | mvanbaak | blegh |
| 12:41.20 | lesouvage | mvanbaak: feel kind a stupid, I have done this a lot of times. |
| 12:44.55 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (n=jon@adsl-99-139-235-165.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 12:45.57 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: it's weekend. your brain is prolly working on 1% of normal capacity |
| 12:46.49 | lesouvage | ;-) |
| 12:50.51 | *** join/#asterisk Failrar (n=Failrar@coffee.ipv6.kaufmann.tc) |
| 12:51.02 | *** join/#asterisk scardinal (n=supreme@90.184.100.170) |
| 12:55.50 | lesouvage | Help!! My macbook start talking/reading out loud |
| 12:56.37 | *** join/#asterisk jcoffi (n=jcoffi@190.6.225.24) |
| 12:57.38 | mvanbaak | whehehehehe |
| 12:58.01 | lesouvage | other channel I know :-( |
| 12:58.44 | mvanbaak | apple-fn-f5 |
| 12:59.51 | lesouvage | Strange combination to hit by accident. Thanks again |
| 13:00.44 | mvanbaak | lol yeah |
| 13:00.53 | mvanbaak | happened to me once |
| 13:01.06 | mvanbaak | but prolly hit by the cat that was walking on my ibook |
| 13:05.07 | mvanbaak | wildzero-cw: yes, viewvc is down. it got hit by webspiders and they were indexing the complete repository history, taking down the box it is running on |
| 13:15.25 | *** join/#asterisk qdk (n=qdk@213.173.230.10) |
| 13:16.35 | *** join/#asterisk ingenius (n=alektro@190.31.44.131) |
| 13:21.53 | lesouvage | i just build Dahdi for the first time ad now my Meetme() isn't working anymore. Got app_meetme.c:800 build_conf: Unable to open pseudo device . Can this be solved in a way? |
| 13:23.15 | lesouvage | I'm running the Asterisk 1.4.24 DAHDI Linux 2.1.0.4 DAHDI Tools 2.1.0.2 |
| 13:27.30 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: did you modprobe dahdi_dummy ? |
| 13:27.40 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: lsmod | grep dahdi |
| 13:29.51 | lesouvage | mvanbaak: next time we met I buy you a beer |
| 13:31.33 | mvanbaak | cool |
| 13:34.40 | lesouvage | I'm ready to conference, it is working!! |
| 13:36.45 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 13:36.48 | mvanbaak | hurray |
| 13:37.13 | mvanbaak | I'm moving all the logic of my home voip setup from a box on my local net to a colocated box |
| 13:42.37 | *** join/#asterisk tamiel (n=tamiel@ip-176.net-89-2-117.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:45.43 | *** join/#asterisk esaym (n=user@cpe-70-120-89-6.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 13:49.56 | *** join/#asterisk Chainsaw (n=chainsaw@gentoo/developer/atheme.member.chainsaw) |
| 13:51.34 | *** join/#asterisk egypcio (n=egypcio@unaffiliated/egypcio) |
| 14:00.11 | *** join/#asterisk SparFux (n=raoul@f050020209.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 14:00.28 | *** join/#asterisk jicksta (n=jicksta@c-67-169-165-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 14:02.48 | *** join/#asterisk LotR (n=martijn@ip3e832455.speed.planet.nl) |
| 14:04.31 | LotR | what did I forget to configure if trying to use JabberSend results in a stanza with an empty from attribute? (when connected to the jabber server as a component) |
| 14:08.59 | *** join/#asterisk SpaceBass (n=SP@pool-96-253-96-54.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:09.07 | SpaceBass | hey folks |
| 14:09.49 | SpaceBass | anyone have a recommendation for a free trunk provider? I was using freedigits but it appears that they are no longer forwarding to SIP URIs |
| 14:12.00 | snowboarder04 | is there a technical name for where you enter a number into a phone before picking up the line and making the phone actually dial the number? |
| 14:12.55 | snowboarder04 | i.e. I have a Cisco, I want to be able to enter the number first, before the phone actually picks up the line and then press 'Dial' when I know it's right |
| 14:14.12 | *** join/#asterisk creyer (n=creyer@port-92-203-37-144.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:16.23 | creyer | Hello! I'm using Asterisk 1.4.21.1-BRIstuffed-0.4.0-RC3b. I'm getting this error after every phone call: No D-channels available! Using Primary channel 3 as D-channel anyway! Is it possible, that this error is depending on the cards I'm using? |
| 14:18.21 | *** join/#asterisk tcseke (n=chatzill@217.20.134.239) |
| 14:24.50 | *** join/#asterisk bminish (n=bminish@pdpc/supporter/professional/bminish) |
| 14:27.13 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 14:29.33 | *** part/#asterisk SparFux (n=raoul@f050020209.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 14:32.44 | *** join/#asterisk qdk (n=qdk@0x573d8dd1.bynqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 14:33.36 | x86 | creyer: do you have any D channels defined in zaptel.conf? |
| 14:37.09 | *** join/#asterisk jeff_phillips (n=fircuser@m355336d0.tmodns.net) |
| 14:37.16 | jeff_phillips | hi |
| 14:37.23 | *** part/#asterisk SpaceBass (n=SP@pool-96-253-96-54.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:38.56 | CapriCoRN^80 | anyone has used CISCO ATA 188 |
| 14:39.11 | *** part/#asterisk creyer (n=creyer@port-92-203-37-144.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:46.57 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 14:50.14 | *** join/#asterisk Chainsaw (n=chainsaw@gentoo/developer/atheme.member.chainsaw) |
| 14:53.07 | mvanbaak | Best: 99.998 -- Worst: 99.389 -- Average: 99.938733, Difference: 99.996043 |
| 14:53.14 | mvanbaak | is that any good for dahdi ? |
| 14:54.19 | *** join/#asterisk saftsack (n=saftsack@p57924987.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:59.02 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 15:00.22 | *** part/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 15:03.43 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 15:08.03 | *** join/#asterisk [gquit]bombadil (n=dana@CPE-70-94-44-157.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 15:10.58 | *** join/#asterisk stevetotaro (n=Steve@pool-72-72-143-197.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 15:11.50 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@64.235.218.194) |
| 15:13.45 | *** join/#asterisk jeff_phillips (n=fircuser@m455336d0.tmodns.net) |
| 15:13.50 | jeff_phillips | hi |
| 15:14.45 | carrar | Ohayoo gozaimasu! |
| 15:15.17 | jeff_phillips | is anyone here famier with an old type of analog line the telco used to sell for legacy pbxs called "DID trunking" or something like that |
| 15:16.20 | coppice | some people still sell them |
| 15:16.46 | jeff_phillips | they'd give you a group of special lines on a hunt group, and a bunch of DID numbers. you dial the DID, next availalble line in the hunt group rings, as soon as your pbx took it off hook. the telco then would spew out dtmf tons of the DID number you dialed, so the pbx can know how to route it internally... |
| 15:17.36 | jeff_phillips | i want to replicate this same functionality between two asterisk servers, one playing like the telco, the other playing like the legacy pbx |
| 15:18.10 | jeff_phillips | but rather than reinvent the wheel im wondering if someone already has made asterisk work with the telco's old did trunking lines |
| 15:18.32 | *** join/#asterisk jmacz (n=jmacz@190.144.75.22) |
| 15:18.49 | *** join/#asterisk Badrobot- (n=Badrobot@cpe-76-173-233-75.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 15:21.25 | carrar | jeff_phillips, Digiums cards I believe do not support "DID Trunking" |
| 15:21.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jeff_phillips: Yes, they have, all you need is an IVR/READ to take the digits in. |
| 15:21.42 | carrar | oh it's a dialplan thing? |
| 15:21.54 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: Duh... call comes in, you answer, you get digits. |
| 15:22.08 | carrar | hardware could do it if it was aware |
| 15:22.08 | jeff_phillips | cool so on the receiving pbx server it should be pretty easy |
| 15:22.28 | jeff_phillips | but how about replicating what the telco does on the other end? |
| 15:22.30 | carrar | How fast does the DTMF come in? |
| 15:23.09 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: ratehr moderate from what I recall |
| 15:23.22 | carrar | Sounds messy :) |
| 15:23.29 | [TK]D-Fender | jeff_phillips: You mean dialing digits? ain't Raw-Cat Science. |
| 15:23.41 | carrar | glade I only have to work with PRI's |
| 15:24.01 | jeff_phillips | well, it needs to time it correctly |
| 15:24.30 | jeff_phillips | if it starts spewing out the dtmf digits before the receiving pbx is listening for it, it wouldnt work |
| 15:24.43 | carrar | beween rings? |
| 15:24.47 | carrar | or after it's answered? |
| 15:24.57 | jeff_phillips | has to be after its answered |
| 15:25.27 | jeff_phillips | maybe the lines the telco sold did it before it went off hook?? i dunno |
| 15:25.33 | carrar | always 10 digits? |
| 15:25.35 | jeff_phillips | here is what im doing.... |
| 15:25.54 | jeff_phillips | i have a local asterisk server at a location that is fed by dsl |
| 15:26.20 | jeff_phillips | centurytel just decided to cease requiring the purchase of a voice line to buy dsl |
| 15:26.56 | jeff_phillips | so i ported our voice # to voip so i dont have to be limited by call forwarding only allowing 3 simultaneous calls |
| 15:27.07 | MaliutaLap | be careful, checkout the way they provision their nekkid DSL |
| 15:27.49 | jeff_phillips | upon installing our new dsl-only "pure broadband" line, i discovered it has a dial tone to call 911 and has a call back number that rings incomming calls from any phone if tried dialing it from |
| 15:28.06 | MaliutaLap | has been burnt by his ISP and their nekkid DSL provisioning ... new line suck harder than, well something that sucks really hard |
| 15:28.44 | dwayne | coppice, have a minute to discuss TDD ? I'm having issues with decoding |
| 15:28.53 | jeff_phillips | so when the dsl ip connection goes down i want my voip calls to go to my other asterisk server that is at a dedicated hosting facility with lots of bandwith/ peering |
| 15:29.41 | MaliutaLap | jeff_phillips: so you want some sort of HA setup with DNS fail-over and STONITH? |
| 15:29.50 | MaliutaLap | over a WAN link? |
| 15:30.19 | MaliutaLap | can be done. you might want to qos traffic to/from the HA node |
| 15:30.20 | jeff_phillips | and be put in a hold queue there, with one call at a time patched through by dialing out on a Sip trunk to that incomming number on the "naked" dsl line, and then passing dtmf digits to the local server to tell it what extension they were waiting on hold for |
| 15:30.58 | jeff_phillips | so effectively when there is no ip connection at the local building incomming callers would not notice except in increased hold times |
| 15:31.21 | jeff_phillips | no, not a ip link,,, just a phone line |
| 15:31.34 | MaliutaLap | anyone in a hold queue on that local server is going to be canned when the IP drops |
| 15:32.17 | MaliutaLap | why not just shunt all inbound calls to a queue on the DC server, and trunk it to the office server |
| 15:32.18 | jeff_phillips | no no... local server normally receives the calls via ip. if the dsl goes out, the remote server receives them from the itsp instead |
| 15:33.07 | MaliutaLap | have you considered what happens to anycall already in progress (or in a queue) from that local server when the link goes down? |
| 15:33.14 | MaliutaLap | no, not from what you have stated |
| 15:33.33 | *** join/#asterisk keulin (n=cray@82.231.224.34) |
| 15:33.34 | jeff_phillips | thats what i want to do... remote server puts calls on hold, passes one through at a time to the local server over that incomming pots line |
| 15:33.58 | jeff_phillips | (sorry im on irc from my cell phone, i think there is lag confusing us) |
| 15:34.42 | jeff_phillips | yes if the link goes down while a call is in progress the call will be dropped |
| 15:35.04 | MaliutaLap | jeff_phillips: short answer is it can be done. long answer is you haven't fully thought out your architecture |
| 15:35.30 | MaliutaLap | well it get longer than that |
| 15:35.46 | MaliutaLap | throws a smattering of 's's at that sentence |
| 15:36.33 | jeff_phillips | im working on increasing the ip reliablity by linking our two buildings together via a point to point wireless connetion so that if one building's isp goes down it will use the other buildings isp |
| 15:37.06 | MaliutaLap | with bgp routing of the IP's? |
| 15:37.29 | MaliutaLap | or are they already multi-homed? |
| 15:38.16 | MaliutaLap | hmm, 01:37 and I slept maybe 4hrs last sleep period |
| 15:38.32 | MaliutaLap | should take meds and then sleep |
| 15:41.05 | *** join/#asterisk jaytee (n=jforde05@unaffiliated/jaytee) |
| 15:53.27 | *** join/#asterisk implicit (n=bayan@unaffiliated/implicit) |
| 15:53.46 | *** join/#asterisk jeff_phillips (n=fircuser@m6f5e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 15:54.13 | jeff_phillips | back, sorry .. i left the coverage for a bit. logged in from my cell # |
| 16:00.47 | jeff_phillips | i think it will work out pretty well in the end though |
| 16:01.13 | *** join/#asterisk Cyorxamp (n=Cyorxamp@212.57.229.111) |
| 16:01.31 | Cyorxamp | Lo, is there a function like left or right? Cut is kinda there but need delimiters |
| 16:01.47 | Cyorxamp | I just wanna get the first two chars of a string into another string |
| 16:16.24 | snowboarder04 | Cyorxamp: check out awk |
| 16:16.59 | Cyorxamp | thats not a function |
| 16:17.04 | Cyorxamp | what is awk exactly? |
| 16:17.17 | *** join/#asterisk asdf- (i=asdf@unaffiliated/asdf-) |
| 16:17.23 | asdf- | can anyone recommend any fax over ip client/server solutions? |
| 16:18.10 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 16:22.23 | *** join/#asterisk Badrobot- (n=Badrobot@cpe-76-173-233-75.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 16:23.31 | jaytee | Hylafax? |
| 16:25.56 | asdf- | that works with voip? |
| 16:25.59 | asdf- | i looked at it |
| 16:26.42 | asdf- | but i read that it had problems with voip |
| 16:26.50 | asdf- | i'll see if those problems were fixed |
| 16:27.39 | Cyorxamp | exten => *999,n,Set(extension=${IF($[${CONTEXT}="from-cyorxamp"]?201:${extension})}) |
| 16:27.50 | Cyorxamp | for some reason that doesn't come up as true |
| 16:27.57 | Cyorxamp | yet CONTEXT does store that value |
| 16:28.21 | Cyorxamp | writing dial plan is so temperamental |
| 16:32.30 | asdf- | jaytee, fyi... using iaxmodem + hylafax + asterisk works |
| 16:32.43 | asdf- | thanks for reminding me about hylafax |
| 16:32.51 | jaytee | no problem |
| 16:33.13 | jaytee | the devs are working hard on fax with a later release of 1.6 from my understanding. |
| 16:33.28 | jaytee | but it's still in early development |
| 16:33.34 | asdf- | that's great |
| 16:33.58 | asdf- | i've been checking into FoIP for a few years now |
| 16:34.03 | asdf- | im glad it is making progress |
| 16:36.26 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 16:36.29 | f0ner00t | I made a test plan.. But my asterisk box is saying ext not found when I dial in. |
| 16:39.15 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=luisjose@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 16:41.30 | jaytee | dialing in how? via zap or sip? |
| 16:43.36 | Cyorxamp | can I use == in dial plan? |
| 16:43.40 | Cyorxamp | or = ? |
| 16:44.01 | f0ner00t | Dial plan http://pastebin.com/m4675fe7a |
| 16:44.01 | jaytee | = |
| 16:44.08 | f0ner00t | Test dial plan. |
| 16:44.10 | f0ner00t | SIP. |
| 16:44.21 | Cyorxamp | jaytee, well then asterisk is blatently broken |
| 16:45.11 | jaytee | Cyorxamp, might want to look in channelvariables.txt in the tarball. it covers the use of variables in the dialplan |
| 16:45.49 | jaytee | f0ner00t, pastebin the CLI capture of a failed call with sip set debug on and pastebin your sip.conf file too |
| 16:46.00 | Cyorxamp | jaytee, I don't need to - I know what I've written is correct... I'm sure of it |
| 16:46.06 | Cyorxamp | jaytee, asterisk just doesn't do as it is told |
| 16:46.20 | jaytee | Cyorxamp |
| 16:46.25 | jaytee | ~wglwat |
| 16:46.26 | jbot | i heard wglwat is well, good luck with all that |
| 16:48.07 | jaytee | f0ner00t, you have a typo in the general section of your extensions.conf file. "autogallthrough=yes". From my experience Asterisk will not pass gallstones |
| 16:48.22 | Cyorxamp | I've craked it |
| 16:48.27 | Cyorxamp | but asterisk is still a dumb fuck |
| 16:48.52 | jaytee | Cyorxamp, many people are not that happy with the limitations of the dialplan parser |
| 16:49.24 | Cyorxamp | IF($["${CONTEXT}"="from-cyorxamp"] instead of IF($[${CONTEXT}="from-cyorxamp"] |
| 16:49.31 | Cyorxamp | but still silly |
| 16:50.02 | Cyorxamp | since if your comparing to a number... say IF($[${CALLER}=200] |
| 16:50.06 | Cyorxamp | that works just fine without quotes |
| 16:51.07 | jaytee | not really, because you're referencing the value of the a comparison between two strings so you needed to enclose the value of ${CONTEXT} in quotes |
| 16:51.39 | jaytee | and numbers are treated differently than strings |
| 16:51.43 | Cyorxamp | oh I get that, and I get why its different |
| 16:51.49 | Cyorxamp | but I can still call asterisk a dumb fuck |
| 16:52.00 | jaytee | it is a bit "unwieldy", I'll grant you that. |
| 16:52.06 | Cyorxamp | :D |
| 16:52.12 | Cyorxamp | your so polite |
| 16:52.24 | jaytee | and I've been using it for a couple years now and still don't feel all that comfortable with it. |
| 16:53.07 | Cyorxamp | mines a freepbx install, but I've made alot of custom contexts and custom apps to allow for multi-tennancy |
| 16:53.34 | Cyorxamp | oh and also multiple devices for one user |
| 16:53.40 | Cyorxamp | crazy hacks :D |
| 16:53.59 | jaytee | someone else in here wrote a replacement parser without all the crude limitations but it's based on Pascal, which being named after a french mathematician whenever it encountered an error would just immediately surrender. |
| 16:54.14 | Cyorxamp | LMAO |
| 16:54.26 | Cyorxamp | -Disconnected- |
| 16:55.25 | f0ner00t | Jaytee. Ok I will one second |
| 16:56.28 | f0ner00t | sip = http://pastebin.com/m55b443df |
| 16:57.52 | f0ner00t | Jaytee = [Mar 28 09:57:30] NOTICE[18918]: chan_sip.c:17171 handle_request_invite: Call from 'ipkall' to extension '2537531745' rejected because extension not found. |
| 16:57.55 | f0ner00t | arbelos*CLI> |
| 16:59.15 | jaytee | f0ner00t, do you think that might have something to do with the fact that you don't have an [ipkall] context in your dialplan AND you have autogallthrough instead of autofallthrough in the general section? |
| 16:59.51 | f0ner00t | What file do I have autogallthrough? |
| 17:00.14 | f0ner00t | Jaytee so add context=[ipkall] in the extensions.conf |
| 17:00.15 | jaytee | f0ner00t, in your dialplan in the general section, extensions.conf |
| 17:00.47 | jaytee | f0ner00t, if you're not going to read the whole thing at least read Chapter 5 of the book |
| 17:00.49 | jaytee | ~book |
| 17:00.50 | jbot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 17:01.05 | *** join/#asterisk quant0r (n=quant0r@quantorconsulting.com) |
| 17:01.05 | f0ner00t | Jaytee. I will read chapter 5. |
| 17:01.14 | f0ner00t | Jaytee: I'm going step by step. |
| 17:01.26 | f0ner00t | Jaytee: I am reading the book. |
| 17:01.26 | jaytee | and 6 is useful too but 5 is a must read, absolutely a must read |
| 17:03.13 | jaytee | f0ner00t, context= in both sip.conf and zapata.conf (chan_dahdi.conf if you're running dahdi instead of zaptel) point to the context in the DIALPLAN in extensions.conf. If you don't have a matching context in that file to match what's in sip.conf or zapata.conf for that device then a call can't match because the context doesn't exist for it to FIND an extension in. |
| 17:03.25 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 17:05.15 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 17:05.31 | f0ner00t | Jaytee. But I'm only using sip. Do I need it still in chan_dahdi.conf? |
| 17:06.27 | jaytee | f0ner00t, nope |
| 17:06.31 | jaytee | different devices |
| 17:06.32 | f0ner00t | Jaytee: How od I point to a context from sip.conf in extensions.conf ? context=ipkall? |
| 17:06.38 | f0ner00t | jaytee yup fxs fx0. |
| 17:06.42 | jaytee | sip is sip and dahdi is for analog |
| 17:06.43 | f0ner00t | That is for my next project. |
| 17:07.15 | f0ner00t | My next project is to configure a asterisk box w/ an adtran 924 connected via eth in to a g6 and broadsoft. |
| 17:07.23 | jaytee | f0ner00t, you already have ipkall pointed to the context BUT the context does not EXIST in extensions.conf because you didn't code it there |
| 17:08.12 | f0ner00t | Jaytee: Understand. Should I add context=ipkall into extensions.conf? |
| 17:08.20 | f0ner00t | Is that the correct syntax? |
| 17:08.24 | jaytee | no, you should read chapter 5 first |
| 17:09.06 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 17:10.13 | f0ner00t | Hmmp. |
| 17:10.14 | f0ner00t | Ok |
| 17:10.15 | jaytee | f0ner00t, and also reference the EXAMPLES for connecting to a VOIP service provider on pages 97-101, the last page is an example of extensions.conf |
| 17:10.30 | jaytee | that should at least get you in the right direction |
| 17:11.14 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 17:17.30 | *** join/#asterisk quant0r (n=quant0r@quantorconsulting.com) |
| 17:18.47 | *** join/#asterisk telnettech (n=telnette@d192-24-95-65.col.wideopenwest.com) |
| 17:19.13 | drmessano | f0ner00t: Are we back to adding IPKALL as a provider? |
| 17:19.15 | drmessano | You dont |
| 17:19.24 | telnettech | hey guys...havent been on here in awhile....have a question though |
| 17:20.11 | telnettech | using 1.4.22 version, finally, and need to configure dahdi......do i also have to configure zapata.conf as well |
| 17:21.32 | drmessano | Zapata.conf is no more |
| 17:21.47 | drmessano | Look for the zaptel-to-Dahdi doc |
| 17:23.03 | telnettech | dr m: is that on voipinfo or digium |
| 17:23.17 | drmessano | Google |
| 17:23.28 | jaytee | telnettech, c'mon man. you took the class! it's /etc/dahdi/system.conf and /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf instead of /etc/zaptel.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf |
| 17:24.08 | telnettech | this is the 1st one i have to do in the real world.....chan_dahdi is the file i couldnt remmber |
| 17:24.31 | jaytee | jared would be so disappointed if he knew |
| 17:24.31 | drmessano | First google hit took me to it |
| 17:24.55 | *** join/#asterisk jcoffi (n=jcoffi@196.3.140.194.business.static.tstt.net.tt) |
| 17:25.20 | f0ner00t | drmessano: Corrct. |
| 17:25.28 | f0ner00t | Sorry I was reading more. |
| 17:25.45 | f0ner00t | Learning. |
| 17:25.46 | f0ner00t | LOL |
| 17:25.51 | telnettech | i have to go by the releases that our developers are giving us...this is the 1st 1.4.22 version and i need to use dahdi.....i will NEVER forget it again!!!!! |
| 17:25.59 | drmessano | There is no setup for IPKALL, f0ner00t |
| 17:26.07 | drmessano | Calls come in unauthenticated as SIP calls |
| 17:26.08 | jaytee | told him that a half hour ago |
| 17:26.16 | telnettech | i didnt bring the training material on this install....and i paid for it this time |
| 17:26.17 | drmessano | Told him that twice yesterday |
| 17:26.36 | jaytee | he doesn't have a freakin context in extensions.conf for the context he's pointing the call to in sip.conf |
| 17:27.01 | drmessano | Didnt [TK]D-Fender give him a once over yesterday? |
| 17:27.05 | jaytee | plus he has autogallthrough=yes and last time I looked Asterisk won't pass gallstones |
| 17:27.14 | drmessano | HAHAHHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!! |
| 17:27.20 | f0ner00t | Jaytee : I fixed that. First off. |
| 17:27.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: drmessano ... and that's why ZGod invented "selective memory" |
| 17:27.34 | jaytee | it speaks!!!! |
| 17:27.38 | drmessano | GAIL!!! |
| 17:27.40 | drmessano | EERRR |
| 17:27.43 | drmessano | FAIL!!! |
| 17:27.44 | jaytee | hahaha |
| 17:28.04 | drmessano | reinvite=RSVP |
| 17:28.12 | f0ner00t | drmessano: Second off I am just setting up a call I understand it just passes it through. |
| 17:28.14 | jaytee | lol |
| 17:28.21 | f0ner00t | Third off I am reading the docs. |
| 17:28.27 | f0ner00t | So :P to all. |
| 17:28.40 | jaytee | ooooh, getting a 'tude! |
| 17:28.43 | drmessano | Gasterisk, the guture of gelephony? |
| 17:28.48 | jaytee | NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!! |
| 17:28.54 | f0ner00t | Soup Nazi! |
| 17:29.14 | f0ner00t | Anywayz point being is I am trying. I have time today. Unlike other days I was trying to rush through it|! |
| 17:29.18 | drmessano | Soup give me gallthrough stones |
| 17:29.25 | jaytee | f0ner00t, (Marlon Brando voice) "You are dead to me!" |
| 17:29.51 | jaytee | act in haste, repent in leisure |
| 17:30.11 | f0ner00t | jaytee: Thats cool man. |
| 17:30.36 | drmessano | A penny saved is a penny earned? |
| 17:31.22 | drmessano | Buy a man a fish, he eats for today, but teach a man to catch a fish and he'll try to set up an ITSP with trixbox? |
| 17:31.26 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Who said he earned that penny? He was probably offered it for his thoughts as evidenced by his now flat-lined EEG readings ;) |
| 17:32.20 | f0ner00t | So wat is wrong with this syntex on my extensions.conf pkall |
| 17:32.28 | f0ner00t | opps context=ipkall |
| 17:32.32 | drmessano | I had someone tell me they knew all about Trixbox, been there since day 1.. while he nervously piddled his way through a PBX In a Flash install.. COme on people, I can smell bullshit |
| 17:32.40 | f0ner00t | and btw. I am reading the docs and following it step by step. |
| 17:32.58 | drmessano | "Do I want to install SIP? oh ok" |
| 17:33.54 | f0ner00t | Ok I'll go back to the docs. |
| 17:36.10 | drmessano | You should really give a good read, then go back and set up.. Not set up, get stuck, read more, tweak, etc.. You will find the overall picture is much cleared when you take the paper off the front of the frame |
| 17:36.17 | jaytee | give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day, teach a man religion and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish |
| 17:37.07 | coppice | teach a man religion and he'll give you all his money, so you don't need to piss around with fish |
| 17:37.23 | drmessano | jaytee: I am a bouilianist.. We pray for fish. That wasnt very funny |
| 17:37.37 | jaytee | heretic!!!!! |
| 17:37.53 | coppice | I pray my fish is fresh |
| 17:38.44 | jaytee | and doesn't contain alot of mercury |
| 17:39.11 | drmessano | My people believe the fish god, Kountrijoe, will bring us much fish if we pray daily |
| 17:39.39 | jaytee | If you see Kay, tell her that I love her |
| 17:40.20 | jaytee | wonders if he "gets it" |
| 17:40.47 | drmessano | That was April Wine |
| 17:41.39 | drmessano | Cant actually site a Country Joe and the Fish tune |
| 17:41.45 | drmessano | err cite |
| 17:42.18 | coppice | "Give me an F" |
| 17:42.32 | jaytee | F.U.C.K |
| 17:42.35 | f0ner00t | drmessano: I'm getting it more I read it. And I understand you guys aren't here just to help people set it up from scratch. |
| 17:42.53 | jaytee | what are we fighting for? don't ask me I don't give a damn, next stop is Vietnam |
| 17:43.33 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: You seem to be fervently trying to follow guides which means you'll just be cutting & pasing any random bit anywhere like yesterday's SIP/IAX fiasco because you are skipping all of the theory you need to understand any of it. |
| 17:43.33 | drmessano | YAY |
| 17:43.54 | drmessano | FIXIN TO DIE |
| 17:44.20 | drmessano | Havent heard that in years.. My dad had the LP |
| 17:44.39 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: read the BOOK. You have no concept of the dialplan which is 90% of Asterisk. |
| 17:44.54 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Not today. Yesterday maybe but not today. I was going through the docs and following it. It said I could make a test call and get an echo test. So I figured Iw ould try it but I still got extension not recognize because asterisk wasn't recognizing the digits. I understand that.. |
| 17:45.13 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: But no context no dialplan. |
| 17:45.16 | f0ner00t | I understand that. |
| 17:45.27 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: context is PART of the dialplan. |
| 17:45.43 | coppice | drmessano: for this, you're fish god have you youtube |
| 17:46.06 | jaytee | and if you'd read Chaps 4 and 5 you'd have understood that already, but nooooooooooooooooooo, readin's hard!!! readin's for squares!!!! |
| 17:46.21 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: I understand that. Would [global] define all context? |
| 17:46.30 | f0ner00t | Acutally no. |
| 17:46.34 | drmessano | coppice: YouTube is like the Google of Sound and Video... oh wait.. |
| 17:46.36 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: No, that one has a very specific purpose |
| 17:46.37 | f0ner00t | [global] os part of the config. |
| 17:46.39 | f0ner00t | Sorry |
| 17:46.52 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: contexts creat separations in your dialplan to controall access |
| 17:47.05 | drmessano | Like dividers in the lunch plate in school |
| 17:47.40 | drmessano | [Peas] no touch [meatloaf] unless [peas] included in [meatloaf] |
| 17:47.46 | drmessano | But yet, the peas remain peas |
| 17:48.05 | f0ner00t | Dialplans are broken into sections called contexts. Contexts are named groups of extensions, |
| 17:48.08 | f0ner00t | which serve several purposes. |
| 17:48.09 | drmessano | Make sense now? I can use zoo animals too, but thats Jaytees forte |
| 17:48.10 | f0ner00t | :) |
| 17:48.38 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not |
| 17:48.44 | f0ner00t | simpler. |
| 17:48.49 | f0ner00t | Albert Eintstien |
| 17:48.50 | f0ner00t | LOL |
| 17:49.10 | drmessano | Albert Eintstien <-- Fail |
| 17:49.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Math anyway :) |
| 17:49.28 | jaytee | yeah, and he tried to divide by zero in one of his mathematical proofs and flunked algebra in high school |
| 17:49.40 | drmessano | E = McHammer <--- FAIL2 |
| 17:50.01 | telnettech | cant touch this...... |
| 17:50.20 | jaytee | I love the Fuck You Einstien DemotivateUs poster |
| 17:50.21 | drmessano | 2 LEGIT 2 QUIT |
| 17:50.45 | coppice | f0ner00t: some parents take that as a mantra |
| 17:50.50 | *** join/#asterisk imm (n=ian@nv-76-3-138-164.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 17:50.51 | drmessano | Funny he came out with ONE album... then his nexy album was a fucking COMEBACK ALBUM |
| 17:50.54 | drmessano | How does THAT work? |
| 17:51.10 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: they came back... now they can get lost :p |
| 17:51.59 | [TK]D-Fender | BRB |
| 17:52.41 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (n=joe@64.235.218.194) |
| 17:52.46 | telnettech | dr: MCHammer had more than 1 album....he just had 1 HIT album |
| 17:53.13 | drmessano | I know he had a few albums |
| 17:53.45 | drmessano | But his debut album was followed with an album that dubbed his "comeback" |
| 17:53.47 | telnettech | and then he didnt make an album for awhile and then he did and Hip Hop had changed so much, that is why it was considered a 'comeback' album....but it was terrible |
| 17:54.24 | coppice | A terrible hip hop album? strange :-\ |
| 17:54.40 | telnettech | his 'cpmeback' album was |
| 17:54.43 | telnettech | comback |
| 17:54.47 | telnettech | comeback |
| 17:54.54 | telnettech | i cant spell or type today |
| 17:55.21 | drmessano | No, I mean 2 Legit 2 Quit was dubbed a comeback album long before that.. not even a followup album |
| 17:55.26 | jaytee | coppice, almost qualifies as an oxymoron, don't it? |
| 17:55.37 | telnettech | it was terrible cause he tried to be something he wasnt....hip hop had moved on pass the good time dancing stage into gansta rap |
| 17:55.44 | *** join/#asterisk cjk (n=cjk@vodsl-9494.vo.lu) |
| 17:55.52 | cjk | hi, does someone know this error? [Mar 28 18:53:56] WARNING[6624]: loader.c:400 load_dynamic_module: Error loading module 'chan_dahdi.so': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_dahdi.so: undefined symbol: ast_smdi_interface_unref |
| 17:56.02 | coppice | jaytee: I think most rap is "c" challenged |
| 17:57.23 | drmessano | I worked for a hip hop station for 8 years.. No, never "got it" |
| 17:58.01 | drmessano | Im not sure even the folks making, peddling, or playing the music " |
| 17:58.03 | telnettech | to each his own....music is like religion and politics......everyone has different tastes....i personally dont like country music....too whiny to me |
| 17:58.03 | drmessano | got it" |
| 17:58.46 | drmessano | I find most hit hiphop songs are Q&A sessions |
| 17:59.04 | [TK]D-Fender | telnettech: Good exception which I just can't hate : Brad Paisley. He's just too damn funny |
| 17:59.06 | drmessano | "Whats the sound of dat booty?" "Its a booty" |
| 17:59.11 | drmessano | Over and over |
| 17:59.33 | drmessano | Its like they're hearing impaired |
| 17:59.56 | drmessano | Its completely disrespects my gangsta |
| 18:00.33 | telnettech | TK: no offense, but i cant just get pass the whiny sound of the instruments |
| 18:01.34 | telnettech | todays rap is not the same as NWA, Poison Clan, Public enemy, and such....today they just talk about drugs, disrespect and bitches |
| 18:02.01 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 18:02.11 | jblack | no cop killing? |
| 18:02.20 | drmessano | No, they runnin again |
| 18:02.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: I miss Ice-T too :) |
| 18:02.31 | drmessano | Ice-T was badass |
| 18:02.41 | *** join/#asterisk moy (n=moy@CPE001cdfec4cee-CM00080dab8485.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:02.41 | drmessano | So was NWA, in da day |
| 18:02.43 | telnettech | dr: 2 Legit 2 Quit was release1 year after his 'Please hammer dont hurt them" which is a classic rap album from him |
| 18:02.45 | [TK]D-Fender | only... not so much... |
| 18:02.57 | drmessano | Im well aware, telnettech |
| 18:03.00 | jblack | How is a white boy like me to justify buying rap without some good cop-killing rhymes? |
| 18:04.23 | drmessano | and it was marketed as his "comeback album" in that he dropped the MC and was attempting to validate himself to everyone as an artist, which turned it into a major bitch-out album about how he wasnt a no-talent hack |
| 18:04.49 | telnettech | jblack: listen to the words of the older groups, you will find they are talking about social injustices that are still happening today....instead of looking at it as black and white, think of it as a message. |
| 18:05.06 | jblack | oh, are we being serious? |
| 18:05.11 | telnettech | Rage against the machine is another group that has a message about there music |
| 18:05.13 | drmessano | You could play that album 10 years later and it still sounds like an attempt to reclaim the fame he had.. 6 months PRIOR? |
| 18:05.53 | telnettech | I agree doc, it wasnt as good as before....maybe 1 or 2 decent songd |
| 18:05.58 | telnettech | songs |
| 18:06.09 | telnettech | yes jblack we are |
| 18:07.09 | jblack | In that case, my opinions have evolved over the last 15 years. I think the issue is really rich versus poor, and rap is a tool to to instigate argument amongst the race, so that no progress on the real issue is made. |
| 18:08.45 | drmessano | jblack: and of course, since youre implying that its about money, and its really about race, you're instigating it further by claiming that black people are indeed poor, which is even more racist... (no, I dont mean that, but that the ignorant counterargument) |
| 18:08.57 | drmessano | that is* |
| 18:09.30 | *** join/#asterisk x_or (n=xrdawson@076-076-147-048.pdx.net) |
| 18:09.40 | JSpom | I'm having trouble configuring a user for my remote sip phone. If I do host=dynamic it says no such host, and if I don't it says to do host = dynamic |
| 18:09.41 | drmessano | Honestly, its about Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis |
| 18:09.43 | drmessano | and we saw who won |
| 18:09.47 | jblack | I'm stating it's about money, and not really about race. Race is a red herring agenda pushed by powerful forces, with ugly consequences. |
| 18:09.51 | jblack | Divide and conquer. |
| 18:10.13 | coppice | rap is a tool of the record companies to maintain a profitable stream of one hit wonders |
| 18:10.24 | telnettech | alot of it is a message about social classes, but if you feel the words, then you will get the message behind the words. If you dont understand the words, then you will feel that it is a racist message |
| 18:10.33 | telnettech | today it is |
| 18:10.38 | telnettech | coppice yes |
| 18:10.38 | drmessano | coppice: Way to round .8 up to 1.. heh |
| 18:10.51 | jblack | The poor outnumber the rich by vast amounts. The only way to handle that is to set poor subgroups against one another, and let them fight each other, rather then let them band together and solve social problems. |
| 18:10.57 | telnettech | that is the rap music i DONT listen to |
| 18:11.20 | drmessano | Quit playin games, ho |
| 18:11.38 | telnettech | i listen to alot of music but i am very selective |
| 18:12.11 | telnettech | i dont listen to a group just cause they are poular or get alot of air play on the radio or Mtv |
| 18:13.00 | jblack | you're much more refined that that, right? |
| 18:13.14 | telnettech | jblack: listen to some of the older hip hop groups" African Bambaataa, Grandmaster Flaxh, Public Enemy, KRS One |
| 18:13.26 | telnettech | i choose not to be a follower |
| 18:13.40 | drmessano | Erika Badu, yo |
| 18:13.48 | telnettech | i make my own decisions about social problems and world issues |
| 18:14.01 | telnettech | Badu is cool |
| 18:14.08 | telnettech | for today's music |
| 18:14.16 | drmessano | Youre such a rebel |
| 18:14.25 | coppice | and China's biggest search engine :-) |
| 18:14.50 | telnettech | no not a rebel but someone that thinks for himself from my past experiences |
| 18:15.37 | drmessano | You drink Pepsi AND coke, because you wont be told what to refresh your thirst with? |
| 18:15.44 | telnettech | I know that racism is not a white problem.....It is a human problem....I have seen racism from a personal standpoint... I grew up in the poor section of my city as a white kid |
| 18:16.03 | telnettech | I dont drink either....i prefer water or juices |
| 18:16.04 | *** join/#asterisk Torrieri (n=Torrieri@nelug/crew/torrieri) |
| 18:16.09 | drmessano | Robbie Van Winkle? |
| 18:16.58 | telnettech | dont know who that is dr |
| 18:17.36 | telnettech | oh never mind...i get it |
| 18:18.00 | telnettech | he was a fake.... |
| 18:18.06 | telnettech | i am not |
| 18:18.09 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (n=annon@tony09-121-90.inter.net.il) |
| 18:18.45 | jblack | I'm an individualist. I drink dr pepper. |
| 18:18.47 | drmessano | I didnt just grow up in the streets, I grew up in the middle of the turning lane, yo |
| 18:19.02 | jblack | I'm also hard core. I don't drink just water... I drink _tap_ water. And I like it. |
| 18:19.21 | drmessano | Hard, yo |
| 18:19.26 | jblack | Give me a cup and a public water source, and I"m in. |
| 18:19.29 | jaytee | it's all about the impurities |
| 18:19.34 | telnettech | i am where i am cause i have worked hard not to let social stereotypes stand in my way.....i went to college on my own dime and worked my way thru college....i took what the military gave me and made it work for me...I still have friends paying student loans back and I dont owe the government anything for my education.. |
| 18:19.45 | coppice | if your hot water system clogs every two years, then you know you're hard core about water |
| 18:20.09 | jblack | telnettech: Fight the stereotypes all the way. |
| 18:20.25 | drmessano | I stood by while my people were oppressed... But we fought back.. We played kickball on both curbs |
| 18:20.27 | telnettech | i dont pretend to be some hard life person......jaytee will tell you from training class |
| 18:20.28 | jblack | You already beat that "students are broke" one. Impressive. :) |
| 18:21.05 | coppice | I didn't owe the government a cent for my education. they just paid for it all. then they messed up the university system so they could no longer afford to pay, and students have huge bills. this is termed progress |
| 18:21.09 | jblack | I'm a sober disabled vet. We're just two dudes buckin the trend. |
| 18:21.22 | drmessano | HAHAHAHHA |
| 18:21.25 | *** join/#asterisk ajohnson (n=ajohnson@63.147.46.186) |
| 18:21.34 | drmessano | I mean, RIGHT ON |
| 18:21.37 | drmessano | o\ |
| 18:21.51 | jblack | Of course, that's just cause I'm lazy.... Someone mentioned that 12 step program, and I said "No way I'd want to walk that far". |
| 18:22.25 | telnettech | laugh like you want but one day life will slap you in the face and when it does, are you gonna slap him back or are you gonna ask yourself why am i in this situation |
| 18:22.39 | drmessano | I was the captain of my hockey team.. in an all hispanic school.. They used to call me Taco Gretsky, but I showed them.. |
| 18:22.58 | jblack | Dude, if life slapped, I'd be it's biatch. |
| 18:23.01 | *** join/#asterisk paulproteus (i=paulprot@2002:db69:2513:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 18:23.25 | jblack | wonders what's with himself today |
| 18:24.14 | telnettech | but why be its bitch....why not decide when it does and be prepared for it |
| 18:24.15 | jblack | drmessano: Showed them what? That you really deserved to be called a Burrito? |
| 18:24.38 | jblack | Ohhhh, you still think you control your destiny... ) |
| 18:24.56 | drmessano | In my high school, I was on the chess team.. Fought a hard tournament with Bayside high, when some curly haired kid ran me into a stalemate. We decided the tiebreaker would be a dance-off.. I failed, horribly... and turned to cough syrup to ease my pain |
| 18:24.57 | jblack | Is that so? |
| 18:25.24 | jblack | drmessano: Did the mr robo? :) |
| 18:26.00 | drmessano | Yes :( .. and at the very end, Screech and Slater out Robo'ed me, and I ran off |
| 18:26.15 | jblack | I woulda done them girls. |
| 18:26.31 | jblack | The white ones of course. |
| 18:26.36 | drmessano | LOL |
| 18:26.57 | telnettech | i feel that we have a say in our destiny based on our decisions that we make no matter how small or big they seem at that moment |
| 18:26.58 | drmessano | Even Tori Spelling? |
| 18:27.16 | jaytee | ewwww |
| 18:27.19 | jblack | She was in that? I retract! I retract! |
| 18:27.34 | drmessano | SHe was that buggy eyed chick that dated Screech |
| 18:27.53 | drmessano | Then somehow, due to her dramatic acting prowess, she landed a role in 90210 |
| 18:27.58 | jblack | You lie! |
| 18:28.01 | drmessano | Or maybe it was her Dad owning the show |
| 18:28.09 | jaytee | even with all of Aaron's money and all those plastic surgeons in Beverly Hills...... still fugly |
| 18:28.10 | jblack | Wikipedia doesn't reference her, and wikipedia is always right. |
| 18:28.29 | telnettech | she made a cameo appearnace in that show |
| 18:28.36 | drmessano | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dJ03fUS7HtU/SI8qCo-GMqI/AAAAAAAAATo/PXfOTMEN114/s400/violet.jpg |
| 18:28.38 | drmessano | Violet |
| 18:28.41 | drmessano | She made more than a cameo |
| 18:28.42 | telnettech | she had long blonde hair and glasses |
| 18:29.02 | telnettech | ok more than 2 appearances |
| 18:29.10 | drmessano | Its not a cameo unless youre famous |
| 18:29.14 | jblack | cameos don't count. |
| 18:29.25 | jblack | lol. |
| 18:30.10 | drmessano | http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0044266/ |
| 18:30.13 | drmessano | Ok, 3 episodes |
| 18:30.16 | *** join/#asterisk N|ght (n=Night@adsl-76-209-61-39.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:31.23 | jblack | heh. I was googling head of the class, not saved by the bell |
| 18:31.37 | drmessano | lol |
| 18:31.49 | jblack | I have no idea what head of the class was |
| 18:31.56 | *** join/#asterisk lanning (n=lanning@173.8.187.197) |
| 18:33.23 | drmessano | Poor Tiffani Theissen |
| 18:33.36 | drmessano | Shes just starred in someting called "cyborg Soldier" |
| 18:33.41 | drmessano | No doubt on her way down |
| 18:33.42 | jaytee | omg! I used to rub one off to her on a weekly basis |
| 18:33.59 | drmessano | Direct to SciFi TV release, I would guess |
| 18:34.19 | drmessano | Direct to DVD |
| 18:35.07 | jblack | speaking of great TV shows.. http://tinyurl.com/tvrocks |
| 18:35.20 | jblack | Best TV show. EVER! |
| 18:35.59 | stevetotaro | "Probe" was the best show ever! |
| 18:36.12 | stevetotaro | but the mainstream idiots could not keep up |
| 18:36.18 | stevetotaro | lasted less than a season |
| 18:36.34 | drmessano | AHHAHAHHA |
| 18:36.37 | drmessano | COP ROCK |
| 18:36.40 | drmessano | I forgot all about that |
| 18:36.46 | jblack | grins |
| 18:37.01 | drmessano | I miss Hooperman.. That show had potential |
| 18:37.32 | stevetotaro | funny seeing the dude from the shield in the original miami vice |
| 18:38.18 | jblack | Some day... I'm going to make a Smurfy cop-rock style gansta rap youtube video. |
| 18:38.23 | stevetotaro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoAjbK-b0ug |
| 18:40.12 | stevetotaro | his disguise is of a woman or some kind of asian |
| 18:40.18 | stevetotaro | outfit |
| 18:41.46 | stevetotaro | glad jbot and i are off the terrorist watch list |
| 18:41.51 | stevetotaro | ~ron paul |
| 18:41.52 | jbot | Ron paul could kick chuck Noris; Arse |
| 18:42.05 | drmessano | Oh god |
| 18:42.18 | drmessano | Who the hell wrote that ignorant crap |
| 18:42.51 | stevetotaro | http://www.mcclatchydc.com/politics/story/64917.html |
| 18:42.58 | telnettech | chuck norris is a p**sy |
| 18:43.02 | drmessano | ~ron paul |
| 18:43.03 | jbot | God. |
| 18:43.14 | stevetotaro | how about this |
| 18:43.29 | stevetotaro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qDW34Fr64 |
| 18:44.54 | stevetotaro | he is a fellow NRAer, a brother in arms |
| 18:45.08 | stevetotaro | norris that is |
| 18:46.30 | telnettech | doesnt mean he isnt a p**sy |
| 18:46.34 | telnettech | lol |
| 18:46.44 | stevetotaro | but his machine gun makes up for that |
| 18:46.52 | telnettech | i actually like the old chuck norris movies...i didnt like Walker though |
| 18:46.55 | jaytee | "and though it did hurt me so bad, in the fear and alarm, you did not desert me, my brothers-in-arms" |
| 18:47.04 | stevetotaro | besides he was a great martial artist way before he became an actor |
| 18:47.49 | jaytee | unlike Steven Seagal |
| 18:47.49 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (n=lesouvag@82.73.69.76) |
| 18:48.27 | stevetotaro | if norris didnt do the "total gym" and "walker" he woud have a better rep |
| 18:48.30 | stevetotaro | but less $$$$ |
| 18:48.30 | telnettech | steven segal sucks |
| 18:48.54 | jaytee | ya think? |
| 18:49.10 | telnettech | jet Li is a bad ass |
| 18:49.14 | stevetotaro | so discount the "sell out" stuff |
| 18:49.23 | telnettech | acting sucks but is a bad ass martial artist |
| 18:49.25 | jaytee | ever see the poster "The Many Moods of Steven Seagal"? |
| 18:49.31 | telnettech | no |
| 18:50.04 | jaytee | it's all the same photo over and over with different captions like, "angry" "pensive" "sad" "ecstatic" but always the same expression |
| 18:50.12 | coppice | jaytee: there's a similar Ben Aflick one |
| 18:50.22 | jaytee | poor Ben |
| 18:50.23 | stevetotaro | like "blue steel" |
| 18:50.37 | lesouvage | Just after installing a complete Asterisk system my server only has it fans in full operation, nothing else. Stupid question but is it possible to fuck up a server (the hardware) with certain lines in inittab or should this be one f this strange coincedents that happens? |
| 18:50.39 | f0ner00t | What is wrong with this? |
| 18:51.01 | drmessano | ...... |
| 18:51.24 | drmessano | I blew up a CPU with notepad once |
| 18:51.29 | jaytee | lol |
| 18:51.32 | drmessano | does that count? |
| 18:51.54 | stevetotaro | lesouvage: maybe you have a malfunctioning software hardware monitor proggy, what is it called, ldmonitor or something? |
| 18:52.11 | drmessano | open a new file and type "init 0" in it, save it as x86.cpu and reboot |
| 18:52.15 | drmessano | Then it will kill the CPU |
| 18:52.29 | jaytee | lm-sensors? |
| 18:52.46 | f0ner00t | What is wrong with this extensions.conf ? http://pastebin.com/m7432daa9 |
| 18:52.48 | stevetotaro | yeah thats it, that monitors system hardware right |
| 18:52.58 | jaytee | installing asterisk wouldn't touch that anyways. probably coincidence. |
| 18:53.32 | stevetotaro | maybe he used a pre-rolled iso |
| 18:53.52 | jaytee | I always roll my own.....when I don't use a bong |
| 18:53.56 | mvanbaak | nah, he didn't |
| 18:54.06 | *** join/#asterisk LakeSolon (n=blake@64-83-211-119.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com) |
| 18:54.18 | lesouvage | It really looks like the server "died". It was suppose tho move to Amsteram this week but I guess i have to find an alternative. |
| 18:54.20 | stevetotaro | the vapor machines are MUCH better for your health |
| 18:54.29 | stevetotaro | and you get like 98% of the THC |
| 18:54.49 | stevetotaro | give it the "3 inch drop" |
| 18:54.51 | drmessano | I have a tobacco bong, dude.. its all legit, bro |
| 18:54.51 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: the box is not responding anymore? or just the fans running at full-speed ? |
| 18:54.52 | jaytee | stevetotaro, would you mind filling this cup with urine, please? |
| 18:54.54 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: Only thing is the "|" in your verbose has been replaced with "," as of 1.6 |
| 18:55.14 | jaytee | is listening to Mark Knopfler - What it is [5:36 (40%)] |
| 18:55.20 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: And aside from english errors, there aren't any syntax errors |
| 18:55.22 | drmessano | Spammer |
| 18:55.26 | stevetotaro | my urine is nice and clean |
| 18:55.30 | jaytee | awesome friggin tune |
| 18:55.47 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: What do you mean? |
| 18:56.11 | f0ner00t | Hahaha I got it to ring before it died. |
| 18:56.12 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: [incomming] <- 1 "m" too many |
| 18:56.31 | lesouvage | mvanbaak: just a lot of noice of the fans spinning around in the highest speed. No sign of life, nothing in the monitor. Tried withhout hd connected and tried the memory strips (4) one by one, nothing. :-( |
| 18:56.58 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Thank you! |
| 18:57.02 | jaytee | lesouvage, do you have a power supply tester? |
| 18:57.15 | drmessano | or a DVM |
| 18:57.28 | stevetotaro | did you completely unplug it |
| 18:57.29 | stevetotaro | ? |
| 18:57.38 | jaytee | yeah, I'd check the 12v cpu tap and the 5v+ tap |
| 18:57.46 | stevetotaro | lift it three inches off the table and drop it flat |
| 18:57.56 | drmessano | Were you flashing the BIOS at the time it magically died? |
| 18:57.59 | stevetotaro | reseat anything loose |
| 18:58.06 | lesouvage | jaytee: no but I have a lot of strange accidents no that you mention it the last years . |
| 18:58.12 | jaytee | I've seen the PS lose it's 12v cpu feed and it's 5v feed and the fans and all still work but nothing boots |
| 18:58.32 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: What do you mean ? Only thing is the "|" in your verbose has been replaced with "," as of 1.6 |
| 18:58.41 | stevetotaro | put your tounge on the 12v rail |
| 18:58.44 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: Oh I should state that you show me an include in there, but the context you include is not in the pastebin. |
| 18:58.47 | jaytee | or try another power supply if you can "borrow" one from another system just for testing |
| 18:58.48 | mvanbaak | stevetotaro: lol |
| 18:58.51 | drmessano | Are you sure its plugged in and youre not sitting next to a box fan? |
| 18:58.53 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: so that COULD be bad |
| 18:59.35 | drmessano | Do you smell smoke? |
| 18:59.37 | lesouvage | It is not the end of the world but it is extemely frustrated to be stuck with a lame server after succesfully doing a complete migration of an Asterisk system from one box to the other. |
| 18:59.50 | drmessano | Go troubleshoot the thing |
| 18:59.53 | *** join/#asterisk mmarcos_ (i=mmarcos@r190-135-177-204.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 18:59.58 | drmessano | Youre IRCing too much |
| 19:00.09 | drmessano | Theres been 5 or 6 good ideas and another 7 shitty ones |
| 19:00.15 | drmessano | Pick 9 and go with it |
| 19:00.19 | jaytee | Reading scores for f0ner00t, Chapter 5: Speed: Excellent Retention: 0% Comprehension: 0% |
| 19:00.46 | drmessano | jaytee: Failburger? |
| 19:00.54 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Speed misrepresented on assumption of actual occurence. |
| 19:00.57 | lesouvage | drmessano: I'm afraid there is nothing to troubleshout but I will drop the subject, thanks for sharing my bad luck ;-) |
| 19:00.58 | jaytee | with cheese and pickles!!! |
| 19:01.22 | drmessano | Sure there is |
| 19:01.29 | drmessano | The fans are turning |
| 19:01.37 | drmessano | Go check the PSU, etc |
| 19:01.39 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, yeah, very true |
| 19:01.47 | f0ner00t | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.27 | drmessano | or just give up and call Dell :/ |
| 19:03.23 | drmessano | Like a girl |
| 19:03.30 | drmessano | With pigtails |
| 19:03.41 | drmessano | and a pink girly dress |
| 19:04.38 | jaytee | just remember when the battle's over and you're lying there bleeding out.....don't pay the ferryman a friggin dime. |
| 19:04.50 | stevetotaro | always get dell gold support with 4 hour onsite response time |
| 19:05.04 | cjk | does anyone know why the output of dahdi_registration dahdi_genconf lsdahdi, dahdi_hardware is always the same? 31 channels in a T1 span at /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/Dahdi/Span.pm line 244. i think this cant be right |
| 19:05.06 | stevetotaro | and don't worry about sh17 |
| 19:05.06 | jaytee | and prayer, don't forget prayer |
| 19:05.33 | [TK]D-Fender | cjk: T1 with 31 channels... neat trick |
| 19:05.57 | cjk | [TK]D-Fender, some minutes ago when still using zaptel, everything was fine |
| 19:06.09 | drmessano | HA |
| 19:06.13 | jaytee | is that using the General Galactics Mark 85 Interociter? |
| 19:06.19 | stevetotaro | you guys and your silly dhadi |
| 19:06.23 | drmessano | I dont want a Dell tech touching my shit |
| 19:06.39 | stevetotaro | they are not from dell |
| 19:06.42 | stevetotaro | they farm it out |
| 19:06.46 | drmessano | I know |
| 19:06.48 | drmessano | I am well aware |
| 19:06.49 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: 2 Dell techs, 1 cup? |
| 19:06.51 | drmessano | They suck |
| 19:07.06 | stevetotaro | great generalization |
| 19:07.14 | stevetotaro | better call geeksquad |
| 19:07.33 | drmessano | No, we're a Dell partner, we fix our own shit |
| 19:07.33 | jaytee | spent a day and a half trying to get a RIS image working for the new Optiplex 755's with the friggin trusted computing chipset on them. |
| 19:07.45 | stevetotaro | with a proprietary everything, i would get someone with dell gear out there |
| 19:08.25 | stevetotaro | i would have them swap the MB, power supply, and memory |
| 19:08.33 | drmessano | How else are you gonna replace Dell gear, stevetotaro? Off the shelf motherboard?? Duh |
| 19:09.08 | stevetotaro | um yes, some desktops are going standards based.... guess you are a bit slow |
| 19:09.10 | f0ner00t | Do I have to configure my extension with the digits that IPKALL sends? |
| 19:09.11 | jaytee | <abe_froman> i'm the effin sausage king baby! <- from another channel, hahahaha |
| 19:09.30 | drmessano | Like I said, I am a Dell partner, well aware of whats under the hood |
| 19:09.35 | drmessano | But thanks for the comment |
| 19:09.49 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: Yes |
| 19:09.52 | jaytee | f0ner00t, it would help |
| 19:09.54 | stevetotaro | general blanket statements when i prove you wrong, great logic |
| 19:10.02 | jaytee | but so would reading the damn book |
| 19:10.23 | drmessano | You havent proven anyone wrong, just showing your usual ignorance |
| 19:10.30 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: So I have to set up a dialing plan for the inbound call and than another one to point it to the extension? |
| 19:10.40 | jaytee | Colonel Friggin Mustard in the Library with the Candlestick I'm gonna jam up your ass in about a minute! |
| 19:10.49 | stevetotaro | wrong again dell boy |
| 19:11.05 | *** join/#asterisk DaveCanoe (n=Dave@strike.dclg.ca) |
| 19:11.12 | drmessano | But if you like some company who Dell picked from afar to work on your servers, go for it |
| 19:11.29 | jaytee | ooooh, dell boy! sounds like fight brewin |
| 19:11.43 | drmessano | Not likely |
| 19:11.54 | drmessano | Steve is always right, just ask him |
| 19:11.56 | jaytee | good, then I don't need to make popcorn |
| 19:12.07 | jaytee | Steve, are you always right? |
| 19:12.08 | stevetotaro | i go IBM |
| 19:12.11 | stevetotaro | dell is for desktops |
| 19:12.16 | stevetotaro | and home machines |
| 19:12.18 | drmessano | heh |
| 19:12.25 | drmessano | Of course |
| 19:12.26 | stevetotaro | HP is good too |
| 19:12.46 | stevetotaro | SGI is a decent platform but pricey |
| 19:13.17 | stevetotaro | dell switches are ok too |
| 19:13.28 | jaytee | yeah, IBM "Hmmm, lets put the floppy eject button right under the Power button on this Model 95 server." brilliant friggin design until some idiot tries to eject a floppy and brings the server down. |
| 19:13.29 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: "extension"? |
| 19:13.47 | stevetotaro | who uses floppys? |
| 19:13.57 | lesouvage | I have/had an ASUS server. |
| 19:14.03 | stevetotaro | i don't even think they come with any new server |
| 19:14.09 | jaytee | stevetotaro, this was back in the early 90's when you were still in diapers |
| 19:14.15 | telnettech | ok guys im outta here....i think im gonna go drink some of the aruban rum i brought back |
| 19:14.23 | stevetotaro | ok guy, when i got my ccna more like it |
| 19:14.39 | telnettech | see you all on monday |
| 19:14.44 | mvanbaak | hhmm, I think the verification service of e164.org is toast |
| 19:14.46 | jaytee | later Brian |
| 19:15.00 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: you were not running that on the now-dead box right ? |
| 19:15.04 | mvanbaak | ;) |
| 19:15.05 | drmessano | IBM is useless proprietary overpriced junk. Most of the hardware is obsolete from day 1, or is that being generous? |
| 19:15.10 | Magicblaze007 | I've a client who just bought a PAP2T-NA and connected his phone. I told him how to configure it, it worked. After 12 hours, everything was down. Now I can't see his PAP2T on my asterisk. His machine, which is on the same lan can run a softphone without problems. The PAP2T is getting an ip. Anyone knows how can one debug such a scenario? |
| 19:15.23 | jaytee | Microchannel Architecture! it's the future! |
| 19:15.24 | stevetotaro | dell is consumer junk |
| 19:15.31 | mvanbaak | amen to that |
| 19:15.51 | drmessano | Dell servers are hell of a lot better than HP servers.. |
| 19:15.59 | stevetotaro | dude, your getting a dell...... |
| 19:16.04 | drmessano | Had more problems with HP hardware |
| 19:16.10 | Magicblaze007 | dell = consumer junk <==> Apple = ?? :) |
| 19:16.18 | lesouvage | mvanbaak: no, I'm using my always working macbook for irc. |
| 19:16.24 | jaytee | every stinking Optiplex SX-280 we bought had to have the motherboard replaced within a year due to bad capacitors |
| 19:16.25 | stevetotaro | apple = great sh17 |
| 19:16.38 | mvanbaak | I prefer sun |
| 19:17.04 | stevetotaro | i have a netra x1 |
| 19:17.08 | Magicblaze007 | jaytee: I bought a junk dell for 200 bucks 8 years ago...it still runs my asterisk! |
| 19:17.12 | stevetotaro | just gathering dust right now |
| 19:17.15 | jaytee | If I had my druthers I would've gone with HP Proliant servers but I don't know what the quality is like nowadays. |
| 19:17.24 | f0ner00t | Okay what is wrong with this ? http://pastebin.com/m7cf263 |
| 19:17.28 | lesouvage | I have some bare bone pc in use now :-( |
| 19:17.32 | mvanbaak | the T1000 machines are awesome |
| 19:17.36 | stevetotaro | dl 380 is a great machine |
| 19:17.41 | Magicblaze007 | anyone has any ideas on how one can debug an ata adaptor remotely? |
| 19:17.46 | drmessano | jaytee: Waste of time.. I set up a bunch of HP servers and they were crap |
| 19:17.46 | stevetotaro | even the 320s are good |
| 19:17.54 | jaytee | my 3 asterisk servers are running on Dells. My primary and failover run on 2950's and the IVR server runs on a 1750. |
| 19:18.00 | drmessano | Firmware and hardware issues |
| 19:18.34 | jaytee | drmessano, I was thinking of them more when they were still Compaq before HP merged and killed the better half. |
| 19:18.39 | mvanbaak | dont trust drmessano. he's a dell partner. he will tell you everything sux and that you have to get a dell |
| 19:18.46 | drmessano | lol |
| 19:18.54 | stevetotaro | Magicblaze007: you can ssh into a box at that site and then tunnel your web traffic throught the the ssh session, that is if there is a web interface and a box there that can do ssh |
| 19:18.55 | drmessano | Thats so fucking ignorant |
| 19:19.14 | jaytee | I'd trust Danny with my friggin life, not that it's worth that much lately since my 403b went down the tubes |
| 19:19.23 | Magicblaze007 | my client is running a mac...and like most apple users...has no clue what ssh is... |
| 19:19.33 | drmessano | I dont think dell is the best because I work for a company that is a Dell partner.. I loved Dells from years ago when I used them at my former employ and suffered from years of HP crap |
| 19:19.45 | f0ner00t | I have to agree w/ drmessano on that one. |
| 19:19.55 | f0ner00t | drmessano: What is wrong with http://pastebin.com/m7cf263 |
| 19:20.01 | Magicblaze007 | jaytee: Lets not talk about 403bs....even debugging PAP2Ts sounds better these days :) |
| 19:20.03 | jaytee | Dell servers with gold support are very cost effective |
| 19:20.26 | jaytee | I just don't like their business class optiplex crap |
| 19:20.40 | stevetotaro | HP 380s configured correctly are very reliable |
| 19:20.50 | Magicblaze007 | I only like their $200 machines. :) The rest I make myself or get made. |
| 19:20.59 | mvanbaak | we have great success with the hp 380 |
| 19:21.23 | stevetotaro | cost effective vs reliablility in my eyes..... |
| 19:21.29 | mvanbaak | but all stuff that requires a new server nowedays is done with sun |
| 19:21.39 | jaytee | I had a Compaq SystemPro running Netware 386 3.2 back in 91. I bet it would still be running it because it was so well made you'd need a 12 gauge with slugs to take it out of commision. |
| 19:21.41 | stevetotaro | hard question, guess the business makes the decision |
| 19:21.42 | drmessano | Get extra fans, extra hard drives, and a spare PSU when you buy a DL38x.. you'll need the spares quickly |
| 19:21.55 | Magicblaze007 | sun = !@#$? |
| 19:22.16 | stevetotaro | yes, a decked out dl380 |
| 19:22.25 | stevetotaro | that is what i mean by configured correctly |
| 19:22.31 | jaytee | nowadays everything is f'n crap from Malaysia or some other impoverished asian country made by illiterate slave labor |
| 19:22.33 | drmessano | Spare parts |
| 19:22.37 | drmessano | Not decked out |
| 19:22.42 | drmessano | Duh |
| 19:22.46 | stevetotaro | but i have yet to go over to a hot spare except a raid array |
| 19:22.56 | stevetotaro | don't be mad dell boy |
| 19:23.02 | f0ner00t | Okie dokie. |
| 19:23.12 | f0ner00t | I guess its back for me to go back to the drawing board. |
| 19:23.16 | drmessano | Im not mad |
| 19:23.27 | drmessano | So how are your 5 companies going that you cant get off the ground? |
| 19:23.30 | drmessano | Making money yet? |
| 19:23.41 | drmessano | Selling HP now? |
| 19:23.41 | stevetotaro | yeah, doing well |
| 19:23.52 | stevetotaro | supermicro as of late |
| 19:24.01 | drmessano | Of course |
| 19:24.04 | drmessano | To NASA? |
| 19:24.12 | stevetotaro | UN |
| 19:24.20 | stevetotaro | and a black ops group |
| 19:24.26 | drmessano | Sounds about right |
| 19:24.36 | stevetotaro | some GNURadio gear too |
| 19:24.48 | stevetotaro | sorry, ettus research gear |
| 19:24.50 | drmessano | Oh I bet |
| 19:25.21 | stevetotaro | app_rpt setups |
| 19:25.38 | stevetotaro | stuff you wouldn't know about |
| 19:25.43 | drmessano | Of course not |
| 19:25.56 | jaytee | hehe |
| 19:26.06 | jaytee | the word underestimate comes to mind |
| 19:26.14 | drmessano | I guess you've learned a lot about RF since we spoke, since you seemed ignorant as hell about it last time |
| 19:26.16 | stevetotaro | danny, my dell bubble jet is out of ink, it is kind of an emergency. |
| 19:27.03 | drmessano | Still getting bitched around on the -users list? |
| 19:27.08 | drmessano | or was it -biz? |
| 19:27.17 | stevetotaro | who me? |
| 19:27.24 | stevetotaro | one example? |
| 19:27.24 | drmessano | I havent kept up, too busy installing ink |
| 19:27.41 | stevetotaro | again, lame logic |
| 19:27.50 | stevetotaro | you back up nothing you say |
| 19:27.53 | drmessano | Of course it is |
| 19:28.27 | drmessano | "Go find it one Google and paste it to me" is about as lame as it gets.. Im sure you can look in your inbox and find your ass being handed to you |
| 19:28.33 | drmessano | Its much easier |
| 19:28.36 | drmessano | on* |
| 19:28.43 | stevetotaro | sorry, cannot |
| 19:28.58 | stevetotaro | neither can you |
| 19:29.07 | stevetotaro | not if you include the whole thread anyways |
| 19:29.13 | *** join/#asterisk [intra]lanman (n=lanman@freeswitch/developer/intralanman) |
| 19:29.16 | drmessano | Look in your inbox, no.. thats pretty stupid |
| 19:29.22 | stevetotaro | sure you can take something out of context |
| 19:29.22 | mvanbaak | drmessano: are you related to Theo De Raadt? |
| 19:29.47 | stevetotaro | he loves to hate me or something |
| 19:29.54 | drmessano | No idea who that is, mvanbaak, but go ahead and paste a link |
| 19:30.59 | mvanbaak | drmessano: he's the OpenBSD project leader. And almost as annoying and flambitching as you |
| 19:31.04 | stevetotaro | bsd project leader |
| 19:31.35 | drmessano | mvanbaak: Feel free to put me on ignore, you do nothing but troll me anyway.. Unless youre a sadist |
| 19:31.42 | stevetotaro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9fQa00CB9U |
| 19:31.49 | drmessano | In which case, by all means, carry on |
| 19:32.27 | stevetotaro | i change bubble jet cartridges..... |
| 19:32.37 | drmessano | Im sure you do |
| 19:32.43 | stevetotaro | at home |
| 19:33.00 | drmessano | and? |
| 19:33.02 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, I noticed that app_rpt is not built by default. |
| 19:33.10 | tzafrir_laptop | why is it? |
| 19:33.21 | mvanbaak | tzafrir_laptop: because it fails to compile on a lot of systems |
| 19:33.28 | stevetotaro | pretty uncommon usage |
| 19:33.44 | tzafrir_laptop | chan_mgcp is also pretty uncommon |
| 19:33.56 | tzafrir_laptop | and also exposes the system to potential security holes |
| 19:33.57 | stevetotaro | there is a app_rpt branch outside of digium |
| 19:34.11 | mvanbaak | stevetotaro: the one jdixon is working on ? |
| 19:34.11 | stevetotaro | jim dixon's stuff |
| 19:34.21 | stevetotaro | probably digium being lame about commits |
| 19:34.28 | mvanbaak | ah yeah. it's hosted on digium svn server though |
| 19:34.38 | stevetotaro | i think that is a bit old |
| 19:34.56 | mvanbaak | it's still getting commits from jdixon |
| 19:35.18 | stevetotaro | i get source from outside digium |
| 19:35.22 | stevetotaro | compiles fine |
| 19:35.40 | *** join/#asterisk hi365 (n=hi365@85.130.230.240) |
| 19:35.58 | stevetotaro | why diid that xorcom stuff compile automagically and fail for what seemed to be months? |
| 19:35.59 | mvanbaak | ah. I think the jdixon branch on digium svn compiles as well |
| 19:36.09 | mvanbaak | and some versions of asterisk have a compiling app_rpt |
| 19:36.11 | stevetotaro | requiring source code fixes |
| 19:36.31 | stevetotaro | app_rpt has a new usb dongle |
| 19:36.32 | mvanbaak | but during last astridevcon we couldn't get the 1.6 ap_rpt compiling |
| 19:36.38 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, what do you mean? |
| 19:36.42 | stevetotaro | that is the hangup i think |
| 19:36.47 | stevetotaro | cpp crap |
| 19:36.48 | mvanbaak | we were fixing the CLI command inconsistency |
| 19:37.13 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, the debugfs stuff (2.6.18/2.6.19)? |
| 19:37.31 | stevetotaro | i guess, i just hacked around the bug |
| 19:37.45 | stevetotaro | or deselected xorcom |
| 19:37.58 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, or anything in a more recent versaion? what version exactly are you looking at? |
| 19:38.10 | stevetotaro | dmkengineering came out with the usb dongle to control repeaters |
| 19:38.42 | stevetotaro | kind of stole the idea from the defunct "Dingotel" |
| 19:38.43 | *** part/#asterisk MACscr (n=Mark@c-98-214-92-79.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:39.14 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, as I wrote in that asterisk-users thread about rpm packages, I would prefer to also get a bug report if things don't work well |
| 19:39.24 | tzafrir_laptop | so you won't have to work around it next time |
| 19:39.39 | stevetotaro | i am not a reporter |
| 19:40.04 | tzafrir_laptop | amazing how that package contained 3 obsolete workarounds and one incorrect workaround |
| 19:40.18 | stevetotaro | as far as i am concerned, make menuselect should have nothing selected |
| 19:40.35 | Magicblaze007 | I've a client who just got a PAP2T-NA and connected his phone. I told him how to configure it, it worked. After 12 hours, everything was down. Now I can't see his PAP2T on my asterisk. His machine, which is on the same LAN can run a softphone without problems. The PAP2T is getting an ip. Anyone knows how can one debug such a scenario? My client is in germany. I sent the PAP2TNA from the US. Can this create a problem? |
| 19:40.55 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, hmm.... then people would complain that they need to run menuselect to enable stuff |
| 19:41.16 | stevetotaro | why do i want junk code enabled? |
| 19:41.27 | stevetotaro | i have never even touched a xorcom device |
| 19:41.37 | stevetotaro | why would i want that on my box? |
| 19:41.42 | mvanbaak | I think the way it is now (select whatever is compilable on the system) is the best to support the endusers in the community |
| 19:42.03 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, build-system bugs get a high priority as normally they are simple to reproduce and they bother many people |
| 19:42.31 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, and I still did not get from you the basic information of the version number involved |
| 19:42.32 | mvanbaak | on linux yes |
| 19:42.48 | stevetotaro | i am not a reporter |
| 19:43.00 | stevetotaro | fix your own code |
| 19:43.24 | mvanbaak | build-system bugs on *bsd systems dont get the high priority that linux build-system errors get |
| 19:43.42 | stevetotaro | nor sun sparc |
| 19:43.48 | mvanbaak | indeed |
| 19:43.54 | tzafrir_laptop | summons chan_telepathy to read stevetotaro's configuratoin |
| 19:44.01 | tzafrir_laptop | summoning fails |
| 19:44.15 | stevetotaro | i am not a configuration reporter |
| 19:44.23 | mvanbaak | lol |
| 19:44.23 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 19:44.44 | tzafrir_laptop | for the fourth time: what version of (zaptel? dahdi?) is it? |
| 19:45.00 | stevetotaro | i don't play well with dahdi |
| 19:45.14 | tzafrir_laptop | narrowed it down a bit, then |
| 19:45.20 | mmlj4 | stevetotaro: problems with it, as opposed to zaptel? |
| 19:45.29 | stevetotaro | so it must be legacy right? |
| 19:45.46 | stevetotaro | dahdi is unproven tech to me |
| 19:45.55 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, I know of no known unresolved build issue |
| 19:45.56 | stevetotaro | watch the lists, too much chatter |
| 19:46.00 | tzafrir_laptop | (in zaptel) |
| 19:46.16 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, check the common history of zaptel 1.4 svn |
| 19:46.40 | stevetotaro | maybe it builds fine now |
| 19:46.44 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 19:46.53 | stevetotaro | don't know, i menuselect all xorcom stuff out |
| 19:47.11 | tzafrir_laptop | and this is with what version number of zaptel? |
| 19:47.26 | *** part/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 19:47.32 | stevetotaro | all after spending hours trying to build |
| 19:47.40 | stevetotaro | and finally hacking one line of code |
| 19:48.22 | mvanbaak | if only all bugs could be fixed that easily |
| 19:48.39 | stevetotaro | menuselect fixes that bug easy |
| 19:48.56 | stevetotaro | i wish i thought of that first but cpp stuff put me off |
| 19:48.58 | mvanbaak | 360 lines of code need to be touched, and asterisk is bugfree \o/ |
| 19:49.10 | jaytee | there was a CentOS 5.2 specific bug when compiling * with Xorcom not deselected but that bug was fixed within 2 months of 5.2 being released |
| 19:49.11 | stevetotaro | just throw an error that xorcom is screwing up the build |
| 19:50.02 | stevetotaro | 2 months is GREAT build priority, hats off! |
| 19:50.26 | tzafrir_laptop | jaytee, there was indeed. And it has been resolved with 1.4.12 (or was it 1.4.12.1?) |
| 19:50.28 | mvanbaak | stevetotaro: did you report the bug ? |
| 19:50.49 | stevetotaro | i am not a reporter :P |
| 19:50.59 | mvanbaak | stevetotaro: if you did not report it, how would the developer know about it ? |
| 19:51.01 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, not my fault. I fixed it in SVN of Zaptel and published the fix in the bug report |
| 19:51.01 | jaytee | tzafrir_laptop, yep. It got fixed pretty fast. |
| 19:51.21 | stevetotaro | i am not blaming anyone |
| 19:51.23 | jaytee | not using Xorcom equipment I just deselected it and compiled away |
| 19:51.29 | stevetotaro | you just came in asking about app_rpt |
| 19:51.31 | tzafrir_laptop | Sadly everybody were busy publishing dahdi and a new bugfix release wasn't released |
| 19:51.39 | stevetotaro | and i asked about xorcom stuff.... |
| 19:52.14 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, we fix bugs promptly. Fixing this issue was actually tricky: |
| 19:52.26 | stevetotaro | it was one line |
| 19:52.36 | tzafrir_laptop | it was pretty simple to fix it in a way that would work for 5.2 system |
| 19:52.47 | stevetotaro | but just deselecting xorcom works better |
| 19:52.57 | tzafrir_laptop | But finding a way that would not fail on other systems was not so simple |
| 19:53.09 | stevetotaro | uname -a? |
| 19:53.10 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:19]<f0ner00t>drmessano: What is wrong with http://pastebin.com/m7cf263 |
| 19:53.31 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: your [ipkall] entry in sip.conf points to - context=ipkall |
| 19:53.41 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: there is no context with that name. |
| 19:53.48 | tzafrir_laptop | the information of uname -a is not available at this stage. Furthermore, you cannot assume that the running kernel is the build kernel |
| 19:54.06 | jaytee | A few things that set us apart are that we do not have actual salespeople. Our salespeople are actually the techs that do the work. |
| 19:54.10 | tzafrir_laptop | Our centos packages are built on a vserver guest where the host is debian |
| 19:54.12 | stevetotaro | then zaptel won't work anyways |
| 19:54.25 | jaytee | translation: "Yeah, you're pretty much fucked now!" |
| 19:54.38 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, as it happens, with my fix it works always |
| 19:54.42 | stevetotaro | got to run to the harware store, my greenhouse is halfway done, i want it finished tomorrow morning |
| 19:55.11 | tzafrir_laptop | or rather: no firther followup bug reports on that issue |
| 19:55.14 | stevetotaro | i have all these plants in my house that are getting too big |
| 19:55.28 | jaytee | and the DEA is closing in |
| 19:55.46 | drmessano | jaytee: Nothing wrong with having Achievments |
| 19:55.51 | stevetotaro | nah, just veggies and legal herbs |
| 19:55.54 | jaytee | lol |
| 19:56.08 | tzafrir_laptop | stevetotaro, and anyway, why attacking me all of a sudden? |
| 19:56.23 | stevetotaro | the poppies are in the bunker ;) |
| 19:56.34 | stevetotaro | i am not |
| 19:56.35 | tzafrir_laptop | I asked you about app_rpt as I figured you know about it more than the avarege user here |
| 19:56.54 | stevetotaro | just wondered why you were asking me about app_rpt buiild process |
| 19:57.19 | stevetotaro | apologies then, i took it the wrong way |
| 19:57.24 | tzafrir_laptop | I recently documented for the Debian packages all the modules that don't get built and why |
| 19:57.28 | *** join/#asterisk columbo (n=PeterFal@pool-98-119-253-175.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 19:57.44 | jaytee | thank god someone finally did that |
| 19:57.49 | stevetotaro | yeah debian has always been your thing |
| 19:58.12 | stevetotaro | centos here for servers |
| 19:58.13 | mvanbaak | most digium devs run debian or ubuntu |
| 19:58.21 | stevetotaro | and fedora for playing around |
| 19:58.49 | jaytee | debian's always been a decent platform, just not as many good how-to's and documentation for asterisk compared to CentOS or RHEL. Glad to see the gap narrowing there. |
| 19:58.55 | stevetotaro | yeah but i think tzafrir does rpms |
| 19:59.45 | stevetotaro | i just buid from source on centos |
| 19:59.57 | mvanbaak | I always build asterisk from source |
| 20:00.15 | mvanbaak | there's no .deb/.rpm/.tgz/.whatever of trunk |
| 20:00.59 | jaytee | I just thank god I don't need to get a visa for the US in Senegal, Africa :-) |
| 20:01.13 | stevetotaro | well i got to get the frame up to hold up the structure i built |
| 20:01.19 | stevetotaro | very technical ;) |
| 20:01.38 | stevetotaro | senegal is easy |
| 20:01.54 | stevetotaro | it is sierra leone, liberia, and guinea that are a pain |
| 20:01.59 | jaytee | and one of your crowning Achievments |
| 20:02.30 | *** join/#asterisk mchou (n=mchou@unaffiliated/mchou) |
| 20:02.41 | stevetotaro | war zones but having a big budget gets those cleared fast once you get UN country clearance |
| 20:02.57 | stevetotaro | that and bluehippo |
| 20:03.23 | stevetotaro | algeria coming up this year |
| 20:03.42 | jaytee | the money must not be that good if you have to build your own greenhouse. any serious player would have enough cash flow to farm that out to a contractor. |
| 20:03.56 | stevetotaro | i am a DYI |
| 20:04.05 | stevetotaro | and also end of the world guy |
| 20:04.41 | jaytee | ah, well don't forget to stock up on freeze dried stuff then |
| 20:04.59 | stevetotaro | i have a few acres at the schoffstall farm and a green house, hydroponic and aeroponic system but i just wanted something for my backyard |
| 20:05.30 | jaytee | of course, of course. we understand. really! |
| 20:05.44 | stevetotaro | http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_FG%20S200_A_name_E_Garden+Seeds |
| 20:05.57 | stevetotaro | already way ahead of you |
| 20:06.24 | jaytee | is that going to have the same nauseating green header as www.totarotechnologies.com? |
| 20:06.29 | stevetotaro | http://beprepared.com/quickshoplist.asp_Q_c_E_79_A_name_E_Superpails |
| 20:07.03 | jaytee | nope, guess they don't use Joomla |
| 20:07.14 | stevetotaro | it will have the copper header of my ak rounds if someone tries to come get my food |
| 20:07.19 | stevetotaro | FMJ |
| 20:07.49 | jaytee | the lyrics to a song pop into my head. "paranoia will destroy ya" |
| 20:08.07 | stevetotaro | 7 1/2 bird shot for the people i don't want to kill |
| 20:08.13 | stevetotaro | slugs for the others |
| 20:08.34 | stevetotaro | and then two AKs, a .380 and a crossbow |
| 20:08.47 | jaytee | what? no trebuchet? |
| 20:08.49 | stevetotaro | ever been a boyscout? |
| 20:09.01 | stevetotaro | be prepared |
| 20:09.12 | stevetotaro | ever been to a ware zone? |
| 20:09.18 | jaytee | yeah, but I quit when the Scoutmaster tried to get too "close" |
| 20:09.33 | jaytee | a ware zone? nope, but I've been to a war zone |
| 20:09.49 | stevetotaro | where? |
| 20:09.56 | jaytee | ever kill anyone? |
| 20:10.16 | rbd | hi guys...to use ExecIf with Dial in * 1.4 (which seems to take args using the bar) would it be something like: exten => s,n,ExecIf($["${ARG1}" = "l"]|Dial|Local/1${ARG2}@my-conf/nj|60|) (e.g. I would think those bars in the dial command may conflict with the bars from the ExecIf command... |
| 20:12.06 | mvanbaak | no |
| 20:12.23 | jaytee | as for where, it was in Central America but I can't give you any more detail as it wasn't a declared action |
| 20:12.55 | stevetotaro | my black ops customer has alot of work down there |
| 20:12.56 | mvanbaak | ExecIf($["${ARG1}" = "l"]?Dial(Local/1${ARG2}@my-conf/nj|60)) |
| 20:13.00 | mvanbaak | something like that |
| 20:14.05 | stevetotaro | out of here, dayliight is burning |
| 20:14.13 | stevetotaro | EOL |
| 20:15.37 | drmessano | FTR, I built my own outhouse |
| 20:15.53 | jaytee | with a star and a moon on the door? |
| 20:16.16 | drmessano | I'm a DUI kinda guy |
| 20:16.21 | jaytee | "Ayuh! That's a right nice privy!" |
| 20:16.49 | drmessano | I must admit, I didnt build the bucket that goes under the crapper |
| 20:17.11 | drmessano | That was leftover from a 75lb barrel of tiny marshmallows for hot cocoa, in case of nuclear war |
| 20:18.05 | jaytee | when we'd go on deployments sometimes the CO would often ask, "Did you pack the MOTHER?" Mobile Operational Three Hole Evacuation Receptacle a.k.a A plank with three holes cut in it and three toilet seats bolted over the holes setup on two saw horses. |
| 20:18.42 | drmessano | Niiice |
| 20:18.57 | f0ner00t | Hello Bakc. |
| 20:19.11 | jaytee | usually we didn't have to deal with it. Just got Port O Pottys from a local contractor |
| 20:19.16 | f0ner00t | Hi Jaytee. |
| 20:19.48 | drmessano | jaytee: I sold port-o-lets to some Black Ops customers |
| 20:19.48 | jaytee | f0ner00t, POP QUIZ: What does extension i do? |
| 20:20.04 | drmessano | Joke was, they were "Brown ops for Black Ops" |
| 20:20.12 | jaytee | lol |
| 20:20.31 | f0ner00t | Jaytee: Extensions do a lot of things. You can define digital sent to the asterisks through your dialing plan aloso internal calls and external calls. |
| 20:20.41 | f0ner00t | You can seperate these through context. |
| 20:20.55 | jaytee | (buzzer) times up! FAIL! |
| 20:20.56 | drmessano | I cant really say more than that.. the location is highly classified, but I can tell you it was somewhere between 1st and 2nd street in Tunis |
| 20:20.56 | [TK]D-Fender | ..... |
| 20:20.57 | f0ner00t | So If you have two tenants you can have two contexts which will serpate them. |
| 20:21.01 | [TK]D-Fender | GRAMMAR FAIL |
| 20:21.09 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Bah humbug. |
| 20:21.38 | drmessano | I want to call some digitals |
| 20:21.59 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:22.16 | f0ner00t | Okay question for you guys how do I define digits sent. IE : IPKALL phone number. |
| 20:23.02 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: extem = holyshitputagoddamnedpatternhere,1,noop(got Clue? No... I didn't think so) |
| 20:23.25 | jaytee | ROFL |
| 20:23.39 | drmessano | Oh shit |
| 20:23.46 | [TK]D-Fender | a fax? |
| 20:23.47 | drmessano | thats my black ops extension |
| 20:23.53 | drmessano | BRB, need to change it |
| 20:23.56 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:24.13 | jaytee | starts humming "The Wheels on The Bus" |
| 20:24.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? ARE WE THERE YET? |
| 20:24.26 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: Okay. |
| 20:24.41 | f0ner00t | [TK]D-Fender: See I didn't see that document in the dialing plan section. |
| 20:24.57 | *** join/#asterisk jeff_phillips (n=fircuser@m6f5e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 20:25.27 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=luisjose@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 20:26.03 | jaytee | hmmm, let's see. Yep! here it is RIGHT IN CHAPTER 5 on page 137. PATTERN MATCHING. OMG!!!! |
| 20:26.29 | *** join/#asterisk kb3ien (n=kb3ien@isl177-max1.accesshighway.net) |
| 20:26.47 | kb3ien | anyone using a cisco router as the SIP<-->T1 gateway? |
| 20:26.52 | *** part/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:27.03 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:27.21 | [TK]D-Fender | f0ner00t: If you don't understand the concept of patterns, then you haven't gone through chapter 5... |
| 20:27.23 | jaytee | and lemme see, WOW! the example for connecting to a SIP provider on page 101!!! IT HAS A PATTERN in the dialplan for INCOMING calls!!!! Whodathunkit? |
| 20:28.00 | *** part/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:30.19 | rbd | is there a way to copy channel variables from one channel to another with a Dial() command (dest is on the same box, the source is a SIP channel and the dest is a Local channel) |
| 20:30.52 | jaytee | rbd, you can "inherit" the variable value by using an underscore |
| 20:31.11 | jaytee | rbd, read channelvariables.txt in the docs |
| 20:31.27 | rbd | jaytee, thanks |
| 20:32.10 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=luisjose@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 20:35.20 | jeff_phillips | can i send data over an outbound sip call that is answered by a pots line on a zap channel in another asterisk box that is on a seperate network with no ip connectivity between the two? |
| 20:35.53 | *** join/#asterisk stevetotaro (n=Steve@pool-72-72-143-197.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 20:35.54 | jeff_phillips | ie, run like a modem call through it |
| 20:36.12 | [TK]D-Fender | jeff_phillips: very low baud... if you're LUCKY |
| 20:36.36 | jeff_phillips | i would expect it to be slow |
| 20:37.55 | jeff_phillips | but the thing is i cant have a modem in the end that initiates the call with the itsp. i wouid have to do it in software |
| 20:37.59 | drmessano | Like 2400 baud if at all |
| 20:39.23 | drmessano | Coppice is the expert here, but I think hes left |
| 20:41.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Off for the night (probably), BBL |
| 20:42.13 | f0ner00t | Goodnight [TK]D-Fender . |
| 20:42.17 | drmessano | chow |
| 20:44.39 | lesouvage | Do I realy have to install mysql on the server with asterisk even if I use another server for cdr logging? |
| 20:45.53 | jeff_phillips | im curious about that too. |
| 20:46.42 | drmessano | Why would you? |
| 20:48.10 | jeff_phillips | well it may make sense if you are load balancing multiple servers that need to share billing records like a calling card system or something |
| 20:48.11 | denon | lesouvage: just point it to the ip of your mysql, wherever it is |
| 20:48.29 | denon | no need (or desire) to run it on the local server |
| 20:48.40 | drmessano | Question was why would you need to install it on the same box, not why would you want to use an external mysql |
| 20:48.44 | denon | the less you run on the * server itself, the less that can hose itself up and bork the box |
| 20:48.59 | jeff_phillips | oh sorry |
| 20:49.04 | drmessano | I dont think anything would prohibit that |
| 20:50.09 | lesouvage | denon: I have the impression that it doesn't build properly. I have migrate to another server and copied all the working .conf and did the asterisk addon install. How can I check the proper connection. For now I only see that there is no logging. |
| 20:50.59 | *** join/#asterisk _pepo_ (n=_pepo_@190.12.5.106) |
| 20:52.12 | slaney | lesouvage: do you mean, taht you need the mysql libraries there to compile asterisk with mysql support? |
| 20:52.29 | *** part/#asterisk kb3ien (n=kb3ien@isl177-max1.accesshighway.net) |
| 20:52.34 | slaney | that is probably likely if you are compiling from source |
| 20:52.44 | slaney | I am not sure of another way to do that |
| 20:52.48 | slaney | you could cross compile |
| 20:52.50 | slaney | I did that |
| 20:54.02 | lesouvage | slaney: I actually don't know it, I have set this up before without problems. |
| 20:55.21 | slaney | ok, I guess I don't understand your problem. |
| 20:55.41 | rbd | meetme question: say I have a user join conference room 001 using Meetme() with the 'm option (monitor only mode, no talking), can I later unmute that caller via MeetmeAdmin's 'm' option? |
| 20:56.00 | lesouvage | When I do make I see nothing pass on the screen that indicaties that the mysql addon is compiled. |
| 20:56.33 | *** join/#asterisk t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) |
| 20:57.07 | slaney | ok, so if you are compiling, and you need mysql support, you will most certainly need the mysql development libraries present. |
| 20:57.32 | slaney | that's not to say the server |
| 20:57.40 | slaney | but, there will be header files that need to be there |
| 20:59.34 | lesouvage | I have done apt-get install mysql-server but that doesn't seem to include the development packages. |
| 20:59.53 | jaytee | apt-get install mysql-devel |
| 21:01.25 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: aptitude install 18:28 < Kermit-!hugues@sofie.three-dimensional.staff [Quit: leaving] |
| 21:01.26 | lesouvage | jaytee: I got E: Couldn't find package mysql-devel |
| 21:01.28 | mvanbaak | ooks |
| 21:01.50 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: aptitude install libmysqlclient15-dev |
| 21:01.51 | tzafrir_laptop | lesouvage, aptitude install libmyselclient15-dev |
| 21:02.18 | mvanbaak | lesouvage: and you can remove the mysql-server package again |
| 21:04.36 | lesouvage | Thanks, I have made a very detailed instruction of the whole process so next time my youngest daughter can do the job. ;-) |
| 21:04.58 | drmessano | All fun and games til she takes your job |
| 21:05.15 | drmessano | I would leave out one part you can remember easily.. make her work for it |
| 21:06.04 | f0ner00t | What is wrong with this statement than? |
| 21:06.16 | drmessano | The |
| 21:06.19 | drmessano | "than" part |
| 21:06.27 | drmessano | Next.. |
| 21:06.59 | jaytee | definitely a "short bus" rider |
| 21:07.53 | *** join/#asterisk ingenius (n=alektro@host131.190-31-44.telecom.net.ar) |
| 21:08.15 | f0ner00t | [incoming] |
| 21:08.15 | f0ner00t | exten => 2537531745,1,Answer() |
| 21:08.15 | f0ner00t | exten => 2537531745,n,Playback(hello-world) |
| 21:08.15 | f0ner00t | exten => 2537531745,n,Hangup() |
| 21:08.15 | f0ner00t | [incoming] |
| 21:08.18 | f0ner00t | exten => 2537531745,1,Answer() |
| 21:08.20 | f0ner00t | exten => 2537531745,n,Playback(hello-world) |
| 21:08.23 | f0ner00t | exten => 2537531745,n,Hangup() |
| 21:08.25 | f0ner00t | Sorry for the second one. |
| 21:08.33 | f0ner00t | jaytee: Okay mr intellegent one. |
| 21:08.44 | lesouvage | The module is in the system Thanks all!! |
| 21:08.56 | f0ner00t | jaytee: does it make you feel better by putting someone down that is trying to understand something? |
| 21:08.58 | drmessano | How did you get it up and running? |
| 21:09.14 | *** join/#asterisk jeff_phillips (n=fircuser@m6f5e36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 21:09.15 | drmessano | What ended up being the hardware problem? |
| 21:09.20 | *** join/#asterisk maxgo (n=maxgluck@c-24-127-200-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 21:09.23 | drmessano | or suspected problem |
| 21:09.24 | jaytee | f0ner00t, all warm and fuzzy inside, thanks! |
| 21:09.46 | maxgo | hello good afternoon |
| 21:09.51 | f0ner00t | jaytee: So whats wrong with my statement since we are done with the warm and fuzzy inside part.. the hugs and the cuddles. |
| 21:12.07 | jaytee | f0ner00t, are you talking about the posts above? I don't see anything wrong with it as long as the incoming call is looking for extension 2537531745. |
| 21:12.24 | *** join/#asterisk acton (n=Mirc4Lif@168.103.85.95) |
| 21:13.19 | f0ner00t | jaytee: That is what ipkall digits it is sending. But i'm still getting extension not reconigized rejecting extension. |
| 21:13.20 | acton | Hello, I'm really new to asterisk and have a quick question. I have my sip.conf set up to connect to sip, and I'm trying to accept incoming calls, play a sound and hang up. I'm not sure how to tell if I'm actually connecting to sip; when I call I just get my sip vm, and asterisk isn't picking up. Any pony tips would be great. |
| 21:13.41 | f0ner00t | debug sip |
| 21:13.58 | acton | hmmm? |
| 21:14.02 | jaytee | and did you change the context=ipkall to context=incoming for that sip account in sip.conf? |
| 21:14.36 | acton | I did |
| 21:14.45 | acton | and I'm not sure how to "debug sip" |
| 21:14.49 | jaytee | acton, that question wasn't for you. |
| 21:14.56 | acton | ah. sorry. :p |
| 21:14.58 | maxgo | I need help please... just upgraded from 1.2 branch to 1.4, and the cdr events are not showing in our perl asterisk manager client. we can see all other events, from registration to jabber events. the privileges are correctly set in manager.conf, and also cdr_manager.conf has the enabled=yes setting under [general]... |
| 21:15.04 | maxgo | any clue :S |
| 21:15.08 | jaytee | acton, type sip set debug on at the CLI and make a test call into your * box |
| 21:15.08 | maxgo | ? |
| 21:15.11 | f0ner00t | jaytee both contexts are [ipkall] |
| 21:15.13 | f0ner00t | oh wait. |
| 21:15.15 | f0ner00t | Maybe thats it. |
| 21:15.25 | f0ner00t | Maybe I have to define context=ipkall in sip.conf. |
| 21:15.42 | f0ner00t | I mean incoming. |
| 21:15.46 | f0ner00t | I changed it. |
| 21:16.13 | jaytee | f0ner00t, clearly you didn't "get it" while briefly skimming the book. THE CONTEXT IN SIP.CONF NEEDS TO MATCH THE CONTEXT IN EXTENSIONS.CONF THAT HANDLES THE CALL |
| 21:16.49 | acton | No such command 'sip set debug on' (type 'help sip set' for other possible commands) |
| 21:16.49 | jaytee | i.e. if your context=ipkall then you HAVE to have a context called [ipkall |
| 21:16.51 | f0ner00t | Yes. I put [incoming] but I didn't know I needed a context=incoming in sip.conf |
| 21:16.54 | f0ner00t | That is my mistake. |
| 21:16.58 | jaytee | ] |
| 21:17.35 | f0ner00t | Okay bebakc later. |
| 21:17.39 | acton | why would I be getting a "no such command?" |
| 21:17.49 | f0ner00t | I have to get my hair cutby my wife beback |
| 21:17.53 | jaytee | no such command typeing sip set debug on? |
| 21:17.56 | acton | nods |
| 21:17.59 | acton | No such command 'sip set debug on' (type 'help sip set' for other possible commands) |
| 21:18.13 | f0ner00t | sip set debug on |
| 21:18.13 | jaytee | type help sip |
| 21:18.14 | f0ner00t | sorry |
| 21:18.21 | jaytee | what do you see? |
| 21:18.26 | maxgo | hello, is anyonde using 1.4 with cdr events |
| 21:18.42 | jaytee | maxgo, define "events" |
| 21:18.50 | acton | No such command 'sip'. |
| 21:19.05 | f0ner00t | jaytee: [Mar 28 14:17:44] WARNING[19616]: chan_sip.c:2803 retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on transmission 4cc8cb9a472e88191c48861045cd66a3@66.54.140.46 for seqno 102 (Critical Response) -- See doc/sip-retransmit.txt. |
| 21:19.06 | jaytee | acton, your chan_sip.so module isn't loading then |
| 21:19.10 | maxgo | well, asterisk manager Cdr event... the ones enabled in cdr_manager.conf |
| 21:19.23 | lesouvage | There seem to be no logging of call files generated calls. I know that was a problem but I hoped it would have been fixed with the newest release. Do I miss a setting somewhere or aren't call file generated files not logged? |
| 21:19.25 | f0ner00t | action load module chan_sip.so and read the error message. |
| 21:19.47 | f0ner00t | beback. |
| 21:20.06 | f0ner00t | oh command is load chan_sip.so |
| 21:20.09 | f0ner00t | sorry again. |
| 21:20.10 | lesouvage | files=calls |
| 21:20.10 | f0ner00t | Beback. |
| 21:20.36 | maxgo | jaytee: asterisk manager Cdr event... the ones enabled in cdr_manager.conf. I read them using perl's POE::Component::Client::Asterisk::Manager |
| 21:21.12 | maxgo | jaytee: I'm catching all events and I'm able to see them, but the Cdr events that were working before in 1.2, are no longer working in 1.4 after the upgrade |
| 21:21.20 | acton | [Mar 28 21:21:07] NOTICE[19954]: chan_sip.c:16929 reload_config: Unable to load config sip.conf |
| 21:21.21 | jaytee | maxgo, sorry, don't use AMI for CDR tracking myself. can't help ya there |
| 21:21.34 | *** join/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 21:21.35 | acton | sip.conf should be there though, it's a file in /etc/asterisk |
| 21:21.52 | maxgo | jaytee: cool, thx anyways |
| 21:22.22 | *** part/#asterisk jstoker (n=jstoker@80-41-138-12.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 21:22.34 | jaytee | maxgo, check your sip.conf file for typos or comments in the wrong place |
| 21:22.59 | acton | any reason why sip.conf wouldn't be found? it looks as the example told me to set it up |
| 21:24.26 | jblack | make sure it's in /etc/asterisk, and that asterisk has permissons to read it. |
| 21:26.32 | acton | hrm, maybe this helps? in the example I was looking at, it shows me to put my user:pass@host:port at the top, then [section] and the settings. when I load, I get this: [Mar 28 21:25:23] WARNING[19963]: config.c:772 process_text_line: parse error: No category context for line 1 of /etc/asterisk/sip.c is that because of putting my user and host at the top? |
| 21:26.57 | maxgo | jaytee: do you think it could be related? AMI with sip.conf? |
| 21:27.17 | jaytee | maxgo, sorry that was my bad. I meant acton |
| 21:27.31 | maxgo | np... |
| 21:28.16 | maxgo | jaytee: how do you keep track of cdr yourself? I would really like to make it work again because it is realtime cdr billing through AMI |
| 21:28.19 | jaytee | acton, maybe if you pastebin your sip.conf while masking out passwords with x's. |
| 21:28.28 | acton | I'm not really sure where the user:pass@host:port would go if not. does it go under the section name? |
| 21:28.51 | jaytee | maxgo, I don't do realtime cdr billing. I just use mysql for storing cdr data and running sql reports as needed. |
| 21:30.59 | jaytee | acton, are you talking about the register= statement? |
| 21:31.41 | acton | yes. I moved that in to my section and the module loaded, but I'm not sure how to get it to register the account if it's in that section. |
| 21:34.50 | *** join/#asterisk wimt (i=wimt@freenode/staff/wikipedia.wimt) |
| 21:34.50 | jaytee | acton, your register statement should be at the very bottom of the [general] section of your sip.conf file and above where you configure your sip users and devices |
| 21:35.48 | acton | I'll change it to general; thanks. the tutorial didn't have a general in there. |
| 21:36.40 | jaytee | acton, what version of * are you running? |
| 21:38.45 | acton | weird. I have a .wav file, it accepted then sent on to my host, sip is now working though, I'm just trying to get it to go to my dialplan and not the host. maybe I need to remove all the other junk. and I'm using 1.4.21 |
| 21:40.08 | jaytee | acton, then you might want to download the pdf of this as a reference. |
| 21:40.11 | jaytee | ~book |
| 21:40.12 | jbot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 21:41.24 | jaytee | acton, and be aware that alot of the tutorials on the WIKI at voip-info.org and elsewhere are examples for * 1.2 and are out of date or won't work most of the time with asterisk 1.4 |
| 21:41.33 | acton | um, I have the book in front of me. It very kindly shows how to make a dialplan, but doesn't show how to put that dialplan to use. |
| 21:42.05 | acton | I have my register statement and my context=incoming set up, incoming is defined in dialplan. is there anything else I need to do to make it jump to my dialplan? |
| 21:42.43 | acton | that's really all I'm trying to accomplish, then I'll keep digging through the book. it suggests I don't go on until I have my dialplan working |
| 21:45.05 | acton | it connects, then asterisk just shuts down. :( |
| 21:45.52 | *** join/#asterisk surfdue (n=anthonyu@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 21:46.02 | jaytee | acton, do a core set verbose 10 at the CLI and make a test call and see if you see any obvious errors during the call |
| 21:46.09 | surfdue | heyy! I need a affordable toll-free number to use with my pbx, with cheap minutes in and out. |
| 21:46.16 | surfdue | does anyone sell them here :} |
| 21:46.54 | *** join/#asterisk maxgo (n=maxgluck@c-24-127-200-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 21:48.01 | denon | surfdue: |
| 21:48.05 | denon | ~itsp-us |
| 21:48.13 | denon | ~itsp |
| 21:48.14 | jbot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet telephony Service Provider or "VoIP Telephone company". The allow you to either PLACE calls to the PSTN (called Termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called Origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs |
| 21:48.19 | jaytee | ~itsplist-us |
| 21:48.20 | jbot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net |
| 21:48.30 | acton | I get "disconnected from asterisk server." :p |
| 21:48.48 | acton | can I pastebin my sip.conf for you to take a look at? |
| 21:48.48 | denon | man, why can I never remember that one |
| 21:49.15 | jaytee | acton, is there a numeric code in there in there? a 4XX message? |
| 21:50.28 | acton | nope. |
| 21:51.06 | surfdue | does anyone work at this taliax that i can talk to ? |
| 21:51.12 | jaytee | well, you might give sip set debug on a try now and capture the CLI output of a failed call |
| 21:51.14 | surfdue | reason im asking is its kinda urgent |
| 21:51.54 | acton | I turned debugging on after I loaded the module. I got nothing. |
| 21:52.03 | acton | here's my sip.conf, with info omited (user,host,pass) |
| 21:52.05 | acton | http://pastebin.com/m3fb8539 |
| 21:53.04 | mvanbaak | hhmm, 1.6.0 is nice |
| 21:54.59 | acton | I believe I'm just missing a directive, but haven't found anything to tell me how to do this otherwise. |
| 21:55.56 | jaytee | acton, yup, it's pretty messed up |
| 21:56.18 | acton | hahaha. figured so. Could you help me get on the right track so I can keep going with the book? |
| 21:56.35 | acton | I don't mind reading the tutorials, but I like to test my work as I go, play with it, etc. |
| 21:56.54 | jaytee | acton, pages 97-101 have a perfect example of what you're looking to accomplish |
| 21:57.24 | acton | I'm looking at the html ver, what section? sorry. |
| 21:57.42 | rbd | does app_meetme.c still have that single lock in asterisk 1.4/1.6 that the wiki talks about? that and I was just wondering about the performance/reliability improvements done to app_meetme in * 1.6 vs 1.4... |
| 21:58.17 | jaytee | chapter 4, Connecting to a SIP Service Provider |
| 21:58.33 | acton | thanks! |
| 21:59.39 | jaytee | acton, your sip peer needs a name enclosed in brackets, i.e. [mysipprovideraccount] above the context=incoming line |
| 21:59.58 | acton | nods, thanks. |
| 22:00.14 | jaytee | acton, and I'd try using host=dynamic not host=hostip |
| 22:00.43 | jaytee | you also didn't put either nat=no or nat=yes depending on your network setup |
| 22:00.59 | acton | dynamic can be passed to it? I just used hostip to note where the IP would go. |
| 22:01.50 | jaytee | acton, yes dynamic works 99% of the time and is really handy when using phones that get their IP address from DHCP |
| 22:02.20 | mmarcos_ | anyone know how to set timing source as master on a TDMOE device(redfone)? It's a quad E1/T1 it's working but I'm getting HDLC Bad FCS errors every few minutes. |
| 22:03.11 | lesouvage | Is there any way to use the G(context^exten^pri) option in the Dial() command within a local channel and take the values of the variables set in the callfile to the context pointed at. |
| 22:03.21 | acton | awesome. thanks a bunch. got a coupel more quick questions, if you don't mind. I found a asteriksdocs.org or something like that, but it only pointed to books, is there something else I can use that shows me what directives and etc do? And I'm currently using a cell with free long distance on the weekends, is there a way I can call in without a cell free (perferably) to test my config? |
| 22:03.59 | *** join/#asterisk jameswf (n=james@unaffiliated/jameswf-home) |
| 22:04.04 | jaytee | mmarcos, redfone uses zaptel so it would be in the zaptel.conf file on the device IIRC. it would need to have the span timing parm set to 0 |
| 22:04.28 | jaytee | and the other end on your * server would need to be a 1 or 2 |
| 22:04.44 | jql | acton: read up on variable inheritance. you can set __VAR=1 and it will propogate to the child calls' contexts |
| 22:05.34 | acton | hrm, that wasn't my question, but I assume the person seen it. |
| 22:05.36 | acton | :d |
| 22:05.48 | mmarcos_ | dynamic=ethmf,eth1/00:50:C2:65:D4:D0/0,31,4 this is the line I have for the first E1, then it's 1,31,3 2,31,2, 3,31,1 |
| 22:06.03 | mmarcos_ | and it's set as pri_net |
| 22:06.21 | jql | meh. the keys are like right next to each other |
| 22:06.21 | mmarcos_ | I want the other end to get the clock from this one |
| 22:07.07 | *** join/#asterisk anthm (n=anthm@freeswitch/developer/anthm) |
| 22:08.40 | jaytee | mmarcos, you want your * server to take timing from the span? correct? |
| 22:09.13 | jaytee | since the redfone should be the timing source being setup as pri_net |
| 22:10.43 | acton | ok, i've gotten to "Looking for s in incoming (domain 66.220.1.115) " then it disconnects me |
| 22:11.04 | jaytee | acton, pastebin your extensions.conf file then |
| 22:11.28 | mmarcos_ | the problem I have is on the end that I want to generate the clock, that is the * connected to the redfone. If i do dynamic=ethmf,eth1/00:50:C2:65:D4:D0/0,31,0 and the same to the other spans, * wont start |
| 22:11.34 | *** join/#asterisk implicit (n=bayan@unaffiliated/implicit) |
| 22:12.26 | acton | http://pastebin.com/m58090ecf |
| 22:13.16 | jaytee | mmarcos, I don't deal with TDMoE much mostly because it smells like ass and sucks for reliablility but you might want to check your configs. |
| 22:13.44 | jaytee | the sequence is dynamic=<driver>,<address>,<numchans>,<timing> |
| 22:14.11 | jaytee | so I think you want to flip the 0,31 to 31,0 |
| 22:14.13 | hi365 | lesouvage: if I understood you correctly - why not? But why not just avoide all that and set it in the callfile? |
| 22:15.28 | acton | that looks like the dialplan in the tutorial, I believe |
| 22:15.44 | *** join/#asterisk mort___ (n=mort@user-54405220.wfd76b.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
| 22:16.11 | lesouvage | hi365: because of a bug there is no logging of callfile generated calls. If you use a local channel (that is actually pointing to a context) an do the dial from there the call shows up in cdr. Problem now is that I loose the values of variables needed to do the things the call was set up for in the first place. |
| 22:16.59 | lesouvage | The idea is working and my testing is logged so if you have no fancy thinks this is a workaround for this bug. |
| 22:17.12 | jaytee | acton, remove the .wav from the Playback(welcome.wav) and try again. You don't need file extensions with Playback. It matches to whatever is available or transcodes on the fly. |
| 22:17.22 | acton | ooo. nice. thanks |
| 22:17.30 | mmarcos_ | jaytee it's a bit more complex cause there is another setup file for the redfone and I think the problem might be there. still its not clear to me if in order to provide clock I need to set all spans timing to 0 since dahdi says can't run that way |
| 22:17.44 | jaytee | acton, you only use extensions for sound files when you use Record |
| 22:18.11 | acton | huh? |
| 22:18.15 | jaytee | mmarcos_, dahdi? I didn't think Redfone even worked with dahdi yet |
| 22:18.38 | mmarcos_ | yes, works ok |
| 22:18.46 | mmarcos_ | I don't remember if I had to patch |
| 22:18.51 | mmarcos_ | I think I did |
| 22:18.54 | jaytee | mmarcos_, then ya might want to give Redfone tech support a call |
| 22:19.44 | mmarcos_ | yes, I'm waiting on them, but still want to solve it and it's pure config problem, so I'm digging around |
| 22:19.48 | mmarcos_ | thanks anyway |
| 22:20.29 | jaytee | mmarcos_, no problem but like I said earlier it looks like your channel and timing parms are backwards from what the documentation states for dynamic spans. |
| 22:20.53 | jaytee | and you had /'s in there where the docs use only commas to separate |
| 22:21.18 | acton | jt: even with my new config I just get disconnected, it accepts and then the server dies. I'm not seeing any errors as to why it would die, though |
| 22:21.23 | jaytee | or actually, excuse me you had an extra slash in there |
| 22:21.55 | jaytee | acton, what do you see on the CLI when you make a test call? |
| 22:22.04 | mmarcos_ | well, it's because the tdmoe driver is kinda different than the regular dynamic on dahdi/zaptel |
| 22:22.09 | acton | I'll pastebin, sec |
| 22:22.18 | mmarcos_ | I think that i the part you have to patch |
| 22:22.50 | *** join/#asterisk VaGoNeTaS (n=debian@xen.datapartner.cl) |
| 22:22.50 | jaytee | mmarcos_, well I think you're stuck with waiting on Redfone. not many people in here use it, if any. |
| 22:23.18 | jaytee | only one person I can think of offhand and he's not in here at the moment |
| 22:24.51 | mmarcos_ | I will try to get here another time and see if I catch him |
| 22:26.20 | *** join/#asterisk nix8n82 (n=nate@mo-65-41-196-62.sta.embarqhsd.net) |
| 22:26.56 | mmarcos_ | still you should try one, it's a good solution with several advantages taking the t1/e1 out of the box, you can do great failover |
| 22:27.01 | acton | jt: http://pastebin.com/m10f910b0 |
| 22:28.18 | jaytee | mmarcos_, I'm well aware of all the "features" of a Redfone and thanks, but no thanks. I wish you best of luck with it. Especially if you ever have to do any serious debugging of PRI issues over the TDMoE span. I'm sure you'll find it thoroughly enjoyable. :-) |
| 22:29.31 | mmarcos_ | I hope I don't, still I'm afraid I'm close to need to do it |
| 22:29.36 | mmarcos_ | not enjoing already |
| 22:30.04 | acton | hrm, wonder if it's my welcome file |
| 22:30.16 | acton | when I do file welcome, I get: welcome: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, mono 16000 Hz |
| 22:30.48 | hi365 | lesouvage: how so? what are you loosing? |
| 22:31.27 | jaytee | acton, do yourself a favor, add an exten = s,n,NoOp(yes, the call is being handled here) after the s,1,Answer() line, do a dialplan reload and retry the call watching the CLI to see if it displays. |
| 22:32.59 | acton | =? or => |
| 22:33.09 | jaytee | => |
| 22:33.18 | acton | thanks, wasn't sure |
| 22:33.30 | jaytee | in later versions it doesn't matter |
| 22:33.38 | acton | nods. |
| 22:34.07 | jaytee | and when you do the call turn off sip debug first so you don't have extra clutter |
| 22:34.27 | jaytee | because it looks like the call is hitting the context at least or looking for it. |
| 22:35.26 | acton | I wrote it like this: extin => s,n,NoOp(yes,call handled here) |
| 22:35.30 | acton | correct? |
| 22:35.45 | acton | o. nvm. |
| 22:36.52 | acton | hrm, still doesn't work after I spell exten right |
| 22:37.30 | jaytee | acton, did you do a dialplan reload at the CLI after editing? |
| 22:38.05 | acton | I just rebooted the whole server |
| 22:38.12 | acton | the asterisk server |
| 22:38.32 | jaytee | for future reference, you only need to do a dialplan reload after editing your extensions.conf file |
| 22:38.39 | *** join/#asterisk DrAk0 (n=luisjose@nelug/coreteam/luisjose) |
| 22:38.51 | jaytee | or a sip reload after editing sip.conf |
| 22:39.15 | f0ner00t | jaytee: Mar 28 15:32:58] WARNING[20645]: app_dial.c:1387 dial_exec_full: Dial argument takes format (technology/[device:]number1) |
| 22:39.19 | acton | nods. it just shuts down the whole server, so I didn't have much of a choice. :p |
| 22:39.27 | jaytee | some other files require a restart of asterisk or asterisk and dahdi or zaptel |
| 22:40.05 | jaytee | f0ner00t, your Dial command is using invalid syntax |
| 22:41.35 | jaytee | acton, I'm a bit confused at this point. you're saying when you edit your extensions.conf it reboots your server? |
| 22:41.51 | acton | no, when I call |
| 22:42.13 | f0ner00t | Yea. I think I got it confused. |
| 22:42.17 | jaytee | an incoming call makes your server (not asterisk, but linux itself) reboot? |
| 22:42.53 | acton | no, asterisk |
| 22:43.14 | jaytee | acton, did you install from packages or did you compile asterisk? |
| 22:43.49 | acton | package |
| 22:44.00 | acton | I couldn't get the ftp address to work to grab the package to compile |
| 22:44.15 | jaytee | what ftp address? digium doesn't use ftp |
| 22:44.39 | acton | lol, the tutorial says to use ftp.digium.com |
| 22:45.18 | jaytee | http://downloads.digium.com/pub/asterisk/releases |
| 22:45.31 | jaytee | and whatever tutorial you are using is plainly out of date |
| 22:45.44 | acton | thanks. looks like I get to compile. cool though, I can remove all these packages deb made me install |
| 22:45.49 | jaytee | acton, what linux distro are you running? |
| 22:46.02 | acton | debian |
| 22:46.22 | jaytee | acton, if an incoming sip call makes asterisk segfault I'd scrap the packages and start over with a compiled version |
| 22:46.26 | jaytee | hang on a second |
| 22:46.43 | jaytee | what version of * did you install? 1.4 or 1.6? |
| 22:46.51 | acton | it doesn't seg fault, the client just disconnects and asterisk ends |
| 22:46.56 | acton | 1.4 |
| 22:47.45 | jaytee | asterisk shouldn't "end" period unless there's a problem with a corrupted file or an incompatible package was used. |
| 22:47.59 | *** join/#asterisk brunner (n=chris@66.35.172.123) |
| 22:48.11 | acton | no idea what it is, I'll just recompile. it'll be better for me cause I don't want these 60 packages |
| 22:49.49 | jblack | neato. |
| 22:50.06 | jaytee | acton, use this as a reference for installing * using the compile method on debian, it'll probably work better: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Linux+Debian |
| 22:50.17 | jblack | I just got a $9,000 @ 7.75% in the space of 2 minutes. |
| 22:50.55 | jaytee | and all the tarballs for * 1.4 are up on digiums site I linked. I'd try going with 1.4.21 or earlier since 1.4.22 uses dahdi by default and it gets messy. |
| 22:51.22 | jblack | Frozen credit markets my ass! |
| 22:52.00 | jaytee | Frozen Credits markets your ass? I didn't even think they did marketing. |
| 22:52.12 | jblack | I found it at one of my credit unions. |
| 22:52.14 | jaytee | that must be a really tough sell though |
| 22:52.23 | acton | thanks, jt |
| 22:52.32 | jaytee | ah, credit unions, the next fail in the economic meltdown |
| 22:52.47 | jaytee | acton, you're welcome |
| 22:53.04 | jblack | No doubt. I watch Navy Federal and USAA carefully. |
| 22:53.33 | jaytee | the feds just took over a couple of federal CU's |
| 22:53.47 | jblack | NCUA, you mean? |
| 22:54.08 | jaytee | whatever, national level credit unions, two of the biggest |
| 22:54.20 | jblack | Yeah. They're big ones. |
| 22:55.26 | jblack | My goal is to end up with more available credit than I make in a year. |
| 22:56.11 | jaytee | and I was reading where the Credit Default Swap deficit figure is actually higher than the entire combined global GDP which sounds almost impossible unless you figure in blatant fraud, greed and incompetence at all levels of finance and government on a global scale. |
| 22:56.48 | jblack | From the way I've read things (and I've read a lot), it seems to depend a lot on how you count. |
| 22:57.26 | jaytee | I usually start at 1 and work my way up. some start at 0 though |
| 22:57.50 | jblack | It's not a "this many" problem. It's a "what counts as a this" problem. |
| 22:58.06 | jaytee | and usually just by the time I think I've worked myself out of the gutter they go and raise the curbstone |
| 22:58.57 | jaytee | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.12 | jblack | 26K / 32.8K. I'm close. One more card will do it. ;) |
| 23:15.51 | *** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica) |
| 23:32.00 | *** join/#asterisk implicit (n=bayan@unaffiliated/implicit) |
| 23:43.42 | drmessano | People amaze me |
| 23:44.01 | drmessano | Guy at work sets up AsteriskNOW, gets it running.. |
| 23:44.08 | drmessano | All configged |
| 23:44.22 | drmessano | Decides Trixbox can do more and blows it out, installs Trixbox |
| 23:46.06 | *** join/#asterisk thansen (n=thansen@c-76-27-110-194.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:46.12 | apeiron | ...... o_O |
| 23:46.22 | apeiron | He doesn't happen to run Gentoo, does he? |
| 23:49.41 | *** join/#asterisk maxgo (n=maxgluck@c-24-127-200-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:57.28 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (n=jon@adsl-99-139-235-165.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) |
