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| 00:06.02 | eppigy | hello |
| 00:06.04 | eppigy | i am dave |
| 00:06.30 | drmessano | ~drmessano |
| 00:06.31 | infobot | [drmessano] the leading cause of censorship in #asterisk, maybe a Doctor, not really a mess um a no..... The Doctor is accepting new patients, <drmessano> I am not a OB/GYN but I'll have a look anyway, and is earning his reputation daily |
| 00:07.04 | guax | doctor? im sick. =( |
| 00:07.16 | drmessano | Are you a female? |
| 00:07.21 | guax | no |
| 00:07.42 | drmessano | Ok, in that case.. I would light a nice roaring fire.. Get it going really good |
| 00:07.48 | drmessano | Wrap yourself in a blanket |
| 00:08.04 | drmessano | Tightly |
| 00:08.09 | guax | haha |
| 00:08.18 | drmessano | and call your doctor |
| 00:08.43 | drmessano | I bet you thought I was going to tell you to jump in? |
| 00:09.28 | guax | my doctor doesnt pickup the phone, just a flu, not A type at all. |
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| 00:15.23 | guax | , |
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| 00:46.57 | Foriskak__ | anybody used fastagi? |
| 00:48.50 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: Plenty of people. What about it? |
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| 00:51.14 | Foriskak__ | [TK]D-Fender: are there any examples besides fastagi-test? |
| 00:51.38 | Foriskak__ | [TK]D-Fender: and the content currently in the CPAN page for the perl version |
| 00:51.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: What are you expecting to do with it? |
| 00:52.08 | Foriskak__ | [TK]D-Fender: stream a file |
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| 00:52.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: Still looking to do something completely without * aren't you? |
| 00:53.17 | ruben23 | hi...i have 20 extensions on my asterisk server 1001 -1020. problem is when they dial i get service unavailable and that extension is unreachable when i try to view the sip show peers..all stations can register to my asterisk server. |
| 00:53.40 | Foriskak__ | [TK]D-Fender: no, I will have to attach this AGI to an extension, was wondering if anyone had links to fastagi scripts |
| 00:53.48 | [TK]D-Fender | ruben23: "can register" and "have resgistered" are not the same |
| 00:54.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: Quick clarification on your understanding of "attach this AGI to an extension". I am suspecting this is very likely not the tool you're looking for. |
| 00:55.42 | ruben23 | [TK]D-Fender:all the extensions are registered but when all are on call..some extension suddenly shows unreachable and cause to be unavaible when dial a number. |
| 00:56.23 | [TK]D-Fender | ruben23: Guess you'd better pastebin failed calls with SIP debug enabled and show the status of the peer you're trying to call.. |
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| 01:00.47 | ruben23 | [TK]D-Fender:thanks for the help.....problem is my voip carrier only open 11 channels...,where i have 20 callers.. |
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| 01:01.44 | paulius | omg I can't believe how easy this vo-ip thing is |
| 01:01.47 | paulius | Trixbox is awesome. |
| 01:04.23 | pmhaddad | anyone used VoicePHP before? |
| 01:04.48 | Foriskak__ | [TK]D-Fender: It looks like there is no need to involve fastagi, can't I just use AMI to place a call to an extension that dials a number and depending on DIALSTATUS, I play a sound with background() |
| 01:05.30 | Foriskak__ | [TK]D-Fender: the idea was to play custom wav's generated by a text2speech prorgam |
| 01:05.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: Don't even need a socket process. You can just dump a .call file in the spool folder. |
| 01:06.12 | Foriskak__ | no idea how to make a .call file |
| 01:06.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: Simple plain-text file in nearly the same format as an AMI Originate |
| 01:06.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ~wikis |
| 01:06.46 | infobot | [~wikis] VoIP Wiki covering Asterisk, FreeSWITCH, TrixBox, SER, OpenSER, sipX, CallWeaver, and YATE. http://www.voip-info.org (c) Arte Marketing Inc / CommPartners |
| 01:07.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: Go lookup "asterisk auto dialout" on the WIKI |
| 01:07.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Foriskak__: Create simple text file. "mv" it into the proper folder, and * calls out |
| 01:08.13 | Foriskak__ | ok |
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| 02:22.19 | neuro9 | asterisk programmers in here? |
| 02:22.29 | neuro9 | i am trying to write a Halt application |
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| 02:22.40 | neuro9 | that halts the channel until a Redirect moves it |
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| 03:08.15 | MrNickB | hi everyone! |
| 03:08.48 | MrNickB | hoping to find someone (anyone) that's figured this out i know i can't. Is there any GUI interface that allows configuration of skinny clients? |
| 03:12.35 | drmessano | no |
| 03:12.43 | MrNickB | oh well |
| 03:13.53 | [TK]D-Fender | wELL THERE IS ONE... |
| 03:15.10 | Firass-z0r | hello, recently I had my iaxy s101i stolen from my checked in bag at the airport, and I need to replace it. I've been reading about the AG-188N; Does anyone have anything good to say about it? |
| 03:15.14 | MrNickB | oh yeah? |
| 03:16.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Firass-z0r: Pretty much every IAX hardware device = crap |
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| 03:17.25 | Firass-z0r | [TK]D-Fender: so you would recommend going with SIP? |
| 03:17.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Firass-z0r: Clearly |
| 03:18.48 | MrNickB | Firass-z0r: i've also had no issues with sccp phones except for the fact i can't figure out a way to configure them via GUI |
| 03:18.55 | MrNickB | which isn't a huge issue, but it would be nice |
| 03:22.04 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNickB: Get a better GUI. You speak as though there is only 1 |
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| 03:23.04 | MrNickB | d-Fender: any idea which gui supports sccp? i've tried pretty much all of them that i can find |
| 03:24.38 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNickB: And which were those? |
| 03:26.00 | MrNickB | D-Fender: well let's see.. tried asterisk-gui, asterisknow, freepbx, tribox |
| 03:26.59 | Firass-z0r | MrNickB: Is all the sccp hardware made by Cisco? |
| 03:27.31 | MrNickB | D-Fender: sure is. got a few 7921's, 7960's, etc |
| 03:27.52 | MrNickB | they all work great but it would be nice to have a gui someimes |
| 03:28.42 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNickB: So far thats about 2 GUI's |
| 03:28.53 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNickB: And * doesn't really care about phones. |
| 03:29.04 | Qwell | heh, I actually do know a GUI for Skinny phones |
| 03:29.05 | [TK]D-Fender | MrNickB: ScopServ supports SCCP phones |
| 03:29.10 | Qwell | because I wrote it :p |
| 03:29.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: Ditto.... CCM :p |
| 03:29.18 | Qwell | well, that too |
| 03:29.38 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: And seriously, anybody with 5 free minutes can write one. |
| 03:29.46 | Qwell | yeah.. |
| 03:30.04 | MrNickB | i don't program so that choice is right now |
| 03:30.06 | MrNickB | out |
| 03:30.44 | eppigy | D: |
| 03:30.49 | MrNickB | and i have CCM running already too but it never hurts to have options |
| 03:31.32 | Qwell | yes it does. think of the children |
| 03:32.10 | MrNickB | i consulted the children but didn't like their answer. some jibberish about naptime |
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| 03:34.05 | neuro9 | anyone familiar w/ AsyncAGI |
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| 03:34.57 | ambush276 | get this error when trying to place international calls anyone???? |
| 03:34.59 | ambush276 | http://pastebin.ca/1420050 |
| 03:35.47 | ambush276 | any calls within US work fine, but anytime i try and dial an international # it bumps me to this.. |
| 03:35.54 | ambush276 | (link above) |
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| 03:39.06 | Firass-z0r | [TK]D-Fender: Thank you for your help; As far as a SIP ATA is concerned, is there a brand that will give me the best bang for my buck, or on the other end, any brands I should avoid? |
| 03:39.56 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: You've shown precisely NO debug in there |
| 03:40.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Firass-z0r: Linksys. Pick your model to your needs |
| 03:40.20 | ambush276 | want me to SIP debug? |
| 03:40.35 | Firass-z0r | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks! |
| 03:40.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: **DUH** You're not even looking at the call |
| 03:41.39 | ambush276 | http://pastebin.ca/1420058 |
| 03:42.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: SIP/2.0 404 Not Found To: <sip:0013250346282@sip.contacttel.com>;tag=3Kgm7acggm2ae |
| 03:42.59 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: they don't like that number |
| 03:43.06 | ambush276 | ok |
| 03:43.10 | ambush276 | but im trying to dial out |
| 03:43.15 | ambush276 | and + comand does not work.. |
| 03:43.17 | ambush276 | obviously |
| 03:43.21 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: I know I've never seen a number starting with 00 being "valid" |
| 03:43.23 | drmessano | I think I killed my voicemail |
| 03:43.25 | ambush276 | so im trying to figure out how to dial out international |
| 03:43.29 | drmessano | :( |
| 03:43.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: "+ command"? PARDON? |
| 03:43.39 | ambush276 | +32XXXXXXX |
| 03:43.43 | ambush276 | or +1213XXXXX |
| 03:43.47 | ambush276 | for internatiopnal |
| 03:43.49 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: I don't see a plus in there, do YOU? |
| 03:43.50 | ambush276 | dialing |
| 03:43.54 | ambush276 | no im saying... it wont accept it. |
| 03:44.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: That isn't the number you dialed.... |
| 03:44.14 | ambush276 | but im saying that the +32 is the same as the 00132 |
| 03:44.24 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: -- Called 9492660946/0013250346282 <-- do YOU see a + in there? |
| 03:44.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: O RLY? Well the number you are dialing, THEY don't like. Maybe you should ask them what you SHOULD be sending |
| 03:45.59 | ambush276 | no.. |
| 03:46.04 | ambush276 | the + wont work as well |
| 03:46.34 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: What part of "ask them what the proper format should be" is not coming across? |
| 03:46.46 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: This is about what thy want you to send. |
| 03:46.51 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: So go ask |
| 03:47.33 | ambush276 | ok that it is |
| 03:47.35 | ambush276 | w/ the + |
| 03:47.37 | ambush276 | http://pastebin.ca/1420063 |
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| 03:48.41 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: Why am I seeing INTERNAL IP's on one call, and EXTERNAL on the other? |
| 03:49.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: Server: ContactTel SIP Proxy is your first one, going OUT, you just now showed me an * SENDING a progress message somewhere else |
| 03:49.59 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: Whats with this apples & oranges mess? |
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| 03:51.27 | ambush276 | its ok tryzor figued it out |
| 03:51.28 | ambush276 | thanks.. |
| 03:52.00 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: Seriously why did you try passing that off as having anything to do with the other call? |
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| 03:52.12 | ambush276 | what?? |
| 03:52.14 | ambush276 | it did |
| 03:52.17 | ambush276 | it was just a + vs a 001 |
| 03:52.21 | ambush276 | and i meant to do 011 |
| 03:52.24 | ambush276 | and i was doing it wrong |
| 03:52.33 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: Totally different hosts involved. |
| 03:52.42 | ambush276 | i have no idea then.. |
| 03:53.12 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: http://pastebin.ca/1420063 <-- look at your own PB. Internal IP's calling other internal IP's. |
| 03:53.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ambush276: that isn't a call out to ContactTel like the first |
| 03:54.23 | drmessano | Anyone had any problems with voicemail on 1.6.. After adding IMAP Storage, when I start or reload asterisk, I get an MWI on ALL MY DEVICES |
| 04:10.42 | BugKhaM | Hi, anyone knows if we can change "option strings" for active meetme() users? |
| 04:11.06 | BugKhaM | or force a user to re-enter with a new option string |
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| 04:40.23 | Juggie | is it doable to use a macro inside an agi |
| 04:40.26 | Juggie | or will it cause problems |
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| 05:05.31 | neuro9 | anyone else have any experience with * 1.6.1 breaking app_swift? |
| 05:07.17 | neuro9 | or have any experience patching AsyncAGI to 1.6.0 |
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| 06:56.25 | cjk | hi, is there a way to get g726 working from sip to zap, it only works in passthrough mode |
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| 07:06.39 | tzafrir_laptop | cjk, sure it should work. Asterisk should transcode g726 to ulaw (or alaw) |
| 07:07.39 | cjk | hmmm, then i will try harder |
| 07:07.40 | cjk | strange |
| 07:07.50 | cjk | seems to work on one asterisk but not on another |
| 07:07.55 | cjk | thanks for the info |
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| 07:13.30 | ck_28 | hi i am using hylfax as a fax server with asterisk ,while i am sending fax |
| 07:13.41 | ck_28 | i am recieving at sip debug SIP/2.0 488 Not acceptable here |
| 07:13.43 | ck_28 | why ? |
| 07:16.34 | ck_28 | @russellb any idea? even i have enabled t_38 |
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| 07:33.53 | ck_28 | guys any idea |
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| 07:47.48 | plundra | When I set call forwarding on my 7940, can I some how make that act like a Transfer()? |
| 07:48.05 | plundra | (I don't want to se my own number, but rather who's calling :-P) |
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| 07:50.27 | buzukelis | hi all! how to allow several iax pokes to be lost before declaring peer as unreachable? log file is full of "chan_iax2.c: Peer '%%%%%%' is now UNREACHABLE! Time: 1". all peers is on same host.. |
| 07:52.13 | Corydon76-dig | qualifysmoothing = yes |
| 07:57.43 | buzukelis | qualifysmoothing is enabled, seems not working. i using asterisk 1.4.22 |
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| 08:16.56 | dnikulin | hi all |
| 08:17.16 | dnikulin | can someone help? |
| 08:17.40 | dnikulin | when I make a call, I get 1 ring, and then busy |
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| 08:20.07 | dnikulin | http://pastebin.com/m3bf6b0cc |
| 08:21.31 | kapr | [ext-local-custom] |
| 08:21.31 | kapr | exten => _12x,1,dial(IAX2/trunkname/${EXTEN}) |
| 08:21.43 | kapr | why this thing is not working any idea |
| 08:22.40 | kapr | i have this code in my extensions_custom.conf but this is not working |
| 08:24.20 | ghostknife | I have a very weird asterisk problem. Sometimes when I phone, it's like the call just doesn't get made. I just hear an quiet line (soft hush of an open connection). Then I hang up and try again and it works. Here is log output for such a call: http://rafb.net/p/3ybwua85.html. And here is a call that worked: http://rafb.net/p/HYLqwj16.html |
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| 08:51.30 | ck_28 | i i am using hylfax as a fax server with asterisk ,while i am sending fax |
| 08:51.36 | ck_28 | i am recieving at sip debug SIP/2.0 488 Not acceptable here why ? |
| 08:52.41 | kapr | can any one help me with "exten => _12x,1,dial(IAX2/trunkname/${EXTEN})" |
| 08:53.02 | kapr | in extensions_custom.conf |
| 08:53.07 | kapr | this thing is not working |
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| 08:53.42 | ck_28 | kaii use IAX2/${EXTEN}@Trunk |
| 08:53.59 | kapr | [ext_local_custom] is not overriding [ext_local] |
| 08:55.37 | kapr | never seen this before i can give it a try |
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| 09:15.39 | BeeBuu | is there a command that play a sound to a channel? |
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| 09:17.55 | gromez | hi |
| 09:19.31 | BeeBuu | hi,gromez |
| 09:19.47 | tzafrir_laptop | Beave, Playback ? |
| 09:20.01 | gromez | I have a strange problem with asterisk and different sip clients. Xlite works fine, it sends "Authorization" on the 2nd REGISTER, but any other clients never send Authorization |
| 09:20.31 | gromez | so it always returns 401 Unauthorized |
| 09:21.12 | gromez | tried with sjphone, ekiga, twinkle |
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| 09:24.03 | lesouvage | I run into error http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=14723 ( [May 12 10:49:37] ERROR[14040]: channel.c:2043 __ast_read: ast_read() called with no recorded file descriptor. ) while using the g parameter in the dial statement. I read the bug rapport but fid nothing about the g parameter. I'm running 1.4.24 . Could this be a new bug? |
| 09:38.03 | BeeBuu | is there a command that play a sound to a room? |
| 09:38.13 | BeeBuu | meet room |
| 09:38.35 | IPGHOST | hi |
| 09:39.08 | IPGHOST | any one canhelp me on festival ??? how i can check festival is working with asterisk ? ie form asterisk cli ?\ |
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| 10:00.54 | lesouvage | Where can I read what versions of zaptel/dahdi, asterisk-addons etc. should be used with Asterisk version 1.4.21.2. Downgrading to this version seems to solve the error I run into. |
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| 10:08.09 | tzafrir_laptop | lesouvage, zaptel 1.4 (just about any), asterisk-addons (hopefully just about any, not sure) |
| 10:08.25 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk-addons-1.4, that is |
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| 10:19.26 | KingOfDos | somebody knows a good software-modem that will support SIP? cause my iax aint working (zaptel missing, and the zaptel sync emulator or how you want to call it, is not working) |
| 10:20.34 | KingOfDos | iaxmodem will do, but only when there is a way to fix zaptel without hardware. cause i'm running a software-based PBX (no specific hardware) |
| 10:22.07 | KingOfDos | want to build my own testing dial-in service for some microprocessors (PIC, AVR, etc) and other customized hardware (example: building management, airco, aircleaning) |
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| 10:26.07 | tzafrir_laptop | KingOfDos, modem or modem just for fax? |
| 10:27.15 | tzafrir_laptop | iaxmodem uses code by Steve Underwood (nick: coppice, see http://coppice.org) |
| 10:28.39 | tzafrir_laptop | There's also t38modem from openh323 . IIRC on latest versions it also works with SIP |
| 10:29.00 | tzafrir_laptop | But openh323 and embedded systems don't seem to go hand in hand |
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| 10:45.16 | KingOfDos | the embedded systems mostly got a serial modem, to make a dial-in connection |
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| 10:59.33 | kenthefish | Hi All, I need some help with a trixbox outbound dial plan. |
| 10:59.49 | kenthefish | At the moment, I have two routes out, 2 or 9 |
| 11:00.06 | kenthefish | 9|. -> to a sip provider, with no problems |
| 11:00.30 | kenthefish | 2|. -> to our telecom via a PRI (ZAP) |
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| 11:01.56 | kenthefish | if I dial 2012178500, I get an error, so I had to change the dial plan to 20|. (which strips the leading 0, and send 12178500 to the PRI, which works) |
| 11:02.19 | kenthefish | my problem is when I try to dial (say) 21850111111 |
| 11:02.49 | kenthefish | the 21 doesn't match 20|. so I tried to add a 21|. aswell, but that doesn't work |
| 11:02.55 | kenthefish | anyone got any ideas? |
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| 11:04.06 | proxium | gm, can I reinstall Asterisk without reinstalling libpri-1.4.10 ?? |
| 11:07.12 | proxium | I mean: Is it necessary todo (make clean/make/make install) of Libpri then installing Asterisk ?? |
| 11:16.30 | lesouvage | tzafrir_laptop: it is a while ago but thanks for the answer :-) |
| 11:20.22 | tzafrir_laptop | proxium, you generally don't have to run 'make clean' |
| 11:20.44 | tzafrir_laptop | and why would you reinstall libpri just to reinstall asterisk? |
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| 11:30.30 | defswork | kenthefish: 21|. should work |
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| 11:43.46 | kenthefish | defswork, just been talking to a buddy, says telecom expect 12178500 when I dial 012178500, he said they expect something else when I dial 1850111111, he is gone to ask his engineer what it is they expect... |
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| 12:01.27 | leifmadsen | drmessano: you were looking for me? |
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| 12:13.21 | Kiall | hey all ... anyone have any exp with multiple cisco 79x1's behind nat (with siproxd)? They work spot on with a local asterisk server, but i'm having trouble getting them to register with a asterisk server across NAT ... any tips/sample configs etc? |
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| 12:46.25 | ariel_ | hello folks |
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| 12:52.25 | timeshell | Happy Tuesday! |
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| 13:12.14 | beek_ | Good morning all |
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| 13:12.26 | Katty | :> |
| 13:13.41 | plundra | When I do a Transfer() to an external number, someone is prefixing the callerid on the target-phone (my mobile phone) with a zero, this MUST be my sip-providers doing, right? |
| 13:14.16 | plundra | I mean, there is no such default behaviour in asterisk :-) And I sure as hell haven't configured anything like it. I doubt I even can change the callerid to my liking :-P |
| 13:14.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Mew. |
| 13:14.57 | Kobaz | mew? |
| 13:15.01 | Kobaz | like moo? |
| 13:15.12 | therealcircut | hey all |
| 13:15.29 | [TK]D-Fender | plundra: Lets see now... oh wait... we can't... you aren't showing anything... |
| 13:15.30 | therealcircut | im having some troubles reading a 2 digit extension from the caller |
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| 13:16.37 | therealcircut | seems that when i enter an extension like, '41', asterisk reads it as '4' then '1' |
| 13:16.48 | plundra | [TK]D-Fender: What? What do you want me to show? :) The dialplan for this extension? Transfer(SIP/mymobilephone@outgoingaccont); |
| 13:16.53 | therealcircut | ive tried using Read() and WaitExten() with the same behavior for |
| 13:17.23 | leifmadsen | therealcircut: is your digit timeout too short? |
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| 13:17.31 | [TK]D-Fender | plundra: maybe you should be looking at the SIP debug of the call you send out... heck, of the call coming IN while you're at it |
| 13:17.31 | leifmadsen | I believe more dialplan is necessary |
| 13:17.52 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: I believe you aren't showing anything either... |
| 13:17.53 | therealcircut | leifmadsen: I dont believe so, I have set TIMEOUT(digit) = 30 |
| 13:17.57 | Kobaz | more cowbell |
| 13:18.09 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: PASTEBIN is your friend |
| 13:18.09 | plundra | [TK]D-Fender: Heh, of course. Sorry about the 8-) |
| 13:18.21 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: I get that at my Thursday night jams :) |
| 13:18.27 | Kobaz | heh |
| 13:18.45 | plundra | But really, I just wanted to confirm that there is no such hidden default feature in asterisk :-P But yeah, I'll check the debugs. |
| 13:19.24 | [TK]D-Fender | plundra: No there is no secret plan and we're all out to get you.... except we really are. |
| 13:19.36 | beek_ | [TK]D-Fender: Would you look at http://www.pastebin.ca/1420422 |
| 13:19.54 | beek_ | If I uncomment the Monitor() application, I get silence to both ends. |
| 13:20.05 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: mew. |
| 13:20.09 | beek_ | This is a hairpin from a caller to us, we dial the answering service and bridge the call |
| 13:20.24 | beek_ | I'm trying to record that call. |
| 13:21.43 | therealcircut | ok fellas |
| 13:21.44 | therealcircut | http://pastebin.ca/1420431 |
| 13:22.22 | [TK]D-Fender | beek_: You have no format in that Monitor line |
| 13:22.25 | therealcircut | beek_: in your features.conf file, have you enabled the record ability via *1? |
| 13:22.47 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: He isn't doing this on demand <- |
| 13:23.07 | beek_ | [TK]D-Fender: I had the 'wav' in there earlier with the same result. |
| 13:23.07 | therealcircut | well ill just stfu then |
| 13:24.06 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: exten => s,n,Set(TIMEOUT(absolute)=30) <- and this isn't "digit" you set to 30... you'll kill the entire call in 30 |
| 13:24.15 | beek_ | [TK]D-Fender: It's so weird. With the monitor commented out, the bridge works fine. Enable it and all you get is silence. |
| 13:24.47 | beek_ | The resulting wav file contains only silence. |
| 13:25.59 | [TK]D-Fender | [09:16]<therealcircut>seems that when i enter an extension like, '41', asterisk reads it as '4' then '1' <-- and this should act like that. You don't have an exten with 2 or more digits in it that starts with a 4. therefor it stops instantly on the 4 because tis the only unique possibility with a 4 in front <- |
| 13:26.53 | therealcircut | [TK]D-Fender: thnx |
| 13:27.10 | therealcircut | ill need some _NX lines then |
| 13:28.05 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: If you make an IVR with only signle digit possibilities why would it sit around waiting for more? |
| 13:28.23 | therealcircut | because its a greedy bastard |
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| 13:28.47 | therealcircut | but thnx for the ptr |
| 13:28.54 | therealcircut | ill mess with this now |
| 13:29.36 | [TK]D-Fender | beek_: I'd like to see actual CLI output as well... |
| 13:29.45 | [TK]D-Fender | beek_: Always show the dead body.. you know the rules... |
| 13:29.56 | beek_ | ;-) |
| 13:32.14 | beek_ | [TK]D-Fender: WTF? I had the 'wav' in there (cut and pasted from the web), and no audio. I removed "wav" and retried, same problem. I added it back in and retried, now it works. |
| 13:32.59 | beek_ | Oh well, life is good. Thanks for your indulgence! |
| 13:34.46 | [TK]D-Fender | beek_: Happens around the office all the time... |
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| 13:40.39 | beek_ | [TK]D-Fender: I spoke too soon. A subsequent call gave me the same result. Here's the CLI: http://www.pastebin.ca/1420450 |
| 13:42.26 | jaytee | morning beek |
| 13:42.35 | beek_ | morning jaytee |
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| 13:45.11 | therealcircut | noice, thnx guys |
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| 13:55.08 | Katty | hugs jaytee |
| 13:57.24 | jaytee | hugs Katty |
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| 14:04.58 | eykosioux | hi there |
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| 14:14.59 | Katty | boggles. |
| 14:15.08 | Katty | i'd like to know where pavarotti got his lungs. |
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| 14:16.28 | therealcircut | Katty: they were a birthday present from his parents |
| 14:16.38 | Katty | lol |
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| 14:27.08 | jelly-bean | where are some good places to shop online for voip hard phones? |
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| 14:27.58 | Katty | voipsupply |
| 14:28.02 | Katty | DOT COM |
| 14:28.05 | [TK]D-Fender | jelly-bean: www.telephonydepot.com |
| 14:28.21 | beek_ | jelly-bean: e4strategies.com, 888voipstore.com |
| 14:28.37 | beek_ | jelly-bean: and the ones that Katty and [TK]D-Fender listed. |
| 14:29.12 | beek_ | jelly-bean: I assume that you're going to be purchasing Polycom, right? |
| 14:29.45 | jelly-bean | we prefer polycom but whatever works |
| 14:29.52 | beek_ | [TK]D-Fender: Has our young friend Paulius been on lately to tell you how well his Cisco phone works? |
| 14:30.02 | jelly-bean | we're replacing an inter-tel/mitel/pro-tel system |
| 14:30.03 | jaytee | telephonydepot.com is pretty good and if you're buying in large quantities they'll try to bid lower than the website prices. |
| 14:30.17 | jelly-bean | we've got a lot of accessories we're trying to keep for the hardphones--stuff like wireless headset |
| 14:30.22 | Katty | mister obama has a lovely smile. |
| 14:30.29 | jelly-bean | ya we'll be buying like 20+ phones |
| 14:31.10 | Kiall | hey all ... anyone have any exp with multiple cisco 79x1's behind nat (with siproxd)? They work spot on with a local asterisk server, but i'm having trouble getting them to register with a asterisk server across NAT ... any tips/sample configs etc? |
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| 14:34.03 | Katty | is quite amused by the correspondents dinner from saturday. |
| 14:34.14 | sjzzalx | Is there an easy way to switch Asterisk to use PostgreSQL as a backend? I'm looking to just switch a config variable, basically, and have it record to PgSQL. Is this possible or will it take more work? |
| 14:34.40 | sjzzalx | And, what does Asterisk use by default? SQLite? Flat file? Using 1.6.0.9 |
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| 14:35.24 | therealcircut | sjzzalx: usually mysql or the flatfiles i believe |
| 14:35.26 | spck | openSIPS or Kamailio? |
| 14:35.46 | jelly-bean | does asterisk support video streams or how do the video hard phones work? |
| 14:35.54 | therealcircut | sjzzalx: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+RealTime+PostgreSQL |
| 14:35.55 | jelly-bean | i.e. http://www.telephonydepot.com/Catalog/Video-Phones/Grandstream-GXV3140 |
| 14:36.01 | tzafrir_laptop | sjzzalx, the default is not to use any real-time configuration engine |
| 14:36.36 | [TK]D-Fender | ~gs |
| 14:36.37 | infobot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 14:36.38 | [TK]D-Fender | ~grandstream |
| 14:36.39 | infobot | i heard grandstream is the Yugo of VoIP hardware. Run. Run away now. |
| 14:36.59 | tzafrir_laptop | I'd like some help troubleshooting my http.conf (or whatever) settings |
| 14:37.00 | spck | i like Polycom so far |
| 14:37.05 | spck | easy to configure as well |
| 14:37.30 | tzafrir_laptop | I'm trying to play again with asterisk-gui . But sadly I can't even get static files served on the httpd |
| 14:37.48 | spck | check permissions on the folder? |
| 14:38.02 | tzafrir_laptop | spck, what folder? |
| 14:38.09 | spck | the static folder |
| 14:38.17 | spck | think its buried in there somewhere |
| 14:38.30 | spck | i recall that being an issue when i installed it once |
| 14:38.35 | therealcircut | infobot: they are not that bad |
| 14:38.36 | infobot | therealcircut: what are you talking about? |
| 14:38.39 | jaytee | bbiab |
| 14:38.48 | tzafrir_laptop | spck, all's well |
| 14:38.57 | therealcircut | i personally like the snom 320 |
| 14:39.02 | tzafrir_laptop | all world readable. directories are browsable and readable |
| 14:39.04 | therealcircut | flash that puppy to fw 7 |
| 14:39.30 | tzafrir_laptop | therealcircut, talking to bots is not really useful |
| 14:39.57 | tzafrir_laptop | therealcircut, though it is really easy to convince that bot: |
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| 14:40.46 | spck | tza: got it to work? |
| 14:41.12 | tzafrir_laptop | infobot, grandstream is also Though therealcircut says that they're not that bad |
| 14:41.13 | infobot | tzafrir_laptop: okay |
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| 14:41.18 | tzafrir_laptop | ~grandstream |
| 14:41.19 | infobot | it has been said that grandstream is the Yugo of VoIP hardware. Run. Run away now.. Though therealcircut says that they're not that bad |
| 14:41.58 | spck | anyone got an opinion on openSIPS vs Kamailio? |
| 14:42.12 | tzafrir_laptop | spck, no. I keep getting 404 messages, and I'm not really sure where it is looking at |
| 14:42.22 | tzafrir_laptop | stracing gives me nothing |
| 14:42.37 | Katty | (wanda sykes)++ |
| 14:42.59 | tzafrir_laptop | spck, lots of people at #kamailio and at #opensips have very solid opinions :-) |
| 14:43.20 | sjzzalx | tzafrir_laptop: When you say "no real-time configuration engine" by default, what do you mean? Asterisk just stores things and calculates where they're located every time, or expects the file structure to be intact, or reads in log files, and doesn't use any "real" database software by default? Is that what you mean, or do you mean something else? |
| 14:43.49 | tzafrir_laptop | spck, 'http show status' shows me that '/static/...' is handled by "static content" |
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| 14:44.16 | tzafrir_laptop | sjzzalx, there are lots of config files under /etc/asterisk to store those config values |
| 14:44.52 | tzafrir_laptop | That is the default database :-) |
| 14:45.15 | sjzzalx | tzafrir_laptop: OK, thanks : ) |
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| 14:45.39 | sjzzalx | What's the difference between "Realtime CDR", etc., and just normal CDR? Some pages on Google act like there's a difference. |
| 14:45.47 | sjzzalx | Are the plain CDR things batched? |
| 14:46.08 | [TK]D-Fender | sjzzalx: Google doesn't have "pages" on this |
| 14:46.11 | therealcircut | tzafrir_laptop: heh |
| 14:46.23 | therealcircut | provisioning the grandstreams is pretty easy |
| 14:46.28 | sjzzalx | [TK]D-Fender: Ok, uh ... results, hits, etc |
| 14:46.37 | therealcircut | but they have this retarded java utility that u need to 'compile' your configs with |
| 14:46.49 | [TK]D-Fender | sjzzalx: Thats what is called an "unqualified answer" |
| 14:46.58 | jelly-bean | is grandstream the only brand of voip hard phone that has video? |
| 14:46.59 | therealcircut | so your system needs to have the java jre install |
| 14:47.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jelly-bean: Cisco, ACN, Tornado , and more all beg to differ |
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| 14:48.01 | sjzzalx | [TK]D-Fender: OK, semantics are all well and good, and I'll sign on to whatever arbitrary stupid crap you want me to call it. But, what's the difference between Realtime CDR and normal CDR insert, or is there one [anymore]? |
| 14:48.19 | phidelta | Hi all, |
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| 14:49.15 | phidelta | Just a short question. To submit a patch with a new feature. Should I file a feature-bug and attach or do you guys prefer some other method these days? |
| 14:49.28 | [TK]D-Fender | sjzzalx: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+RealTime |
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| 14:49.50 | fbnts | Hi, I have our ISDN card all set up and incoming calls are being answered, however incoming DTMF is not being detected. Is there a special option for this? |
| 14:49.50 | [TK]D-Fender | phidelta: That is the way to do it |
| 14:50.12 | phidelta | THX |
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| 14:50.51 | sjzzalx | [TK]D-Fender: thanks. |
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| 14:53.49 | maverick | does asterisk keeps cache of hostnames ? |
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| 14:54.30 | maverick | imagine that I have a sip proxy between to hosts hostA and hostB |
| 14:54.36 | maverick | hostB is ip dynamic |
| 14:54.45 | maverick | and the proxy is up |
| 14:55.24 | maverick | next the ip change |
| 14:55.56 | maverick | asterisk will keep trying to sent to old ip |
| 14:56.14 | maverick | it seems like asterisk have a "dns cache" |
| 14:56.16 | maverick | ? |
| 14:56.17 | maverick | help |
| 14:56.28 | maverick | is this right |
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| 14:59.19 | ck_28 | @russellb hi |
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| 14:59.38 | russellb | hi |
| 14:59.40 | ck_28 | which destibution i can use for fax |
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| 14:59.46 | ck_28 | 1.4 or 1.6 |
| 14:59.51 | russellb | why did you choose to ask me that directly? |
| 14:59.54 | ck_28 | which have less problem with t38 |
| 14:59.57 | russellb | there are 250 others in here that can probably answer :-) |
| 15:00.12 | ck_28 | man i know your skills with respect to all |
| 15:00.25 | ck_28 | even you are helplfull |
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| 15:00.38 | russellb | there isn't one that has more issues than the other, really ... 1.6 has more functionality than 1.4 |
| 15:00.39 | ck_28 | you and [TK]D-Fender :) |
| 15:00.46 | russellb | 1.4 can only do t38 passthrough, 1.6 can do origination and termination |
| 15:01.05 | ck_28 | i want to use app_txfax |
| 15:01.05 | jelly-bean | where can i find a rj-11 female to 2.5mm male adapter/converter |
| 15:01.31 | jelly-bean | we've got headsets that use rj-11 jacks but all these IP phones have the headset button checking for the 2.5mm connection |
| 15:01.37 | russellb | ck_28: that only exists in 1.6 |
| 15:01.38 | ck_28 | i want to let asterisk send fax |
| 15:01.46 | ck_28 | ok ser thanks |
| 15:01.52 | ck_28 | sir * :) |
| 15:01.58 | russellb | you're welcome |
| 15:02.04 | russellb | that will be $9.99 |
| 15:02.48 | ck_28 | 9.99 ? |
| 15:03.22 | therealcircut | maverick: i think u need the SIP clients to re-register.. |
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| 15:05.14 | maverick | there is a issue in asterisk : http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=13900 |
| 15:07.36 | jelly-bean | are linksys phones poor quality? we've found some for $89 that look good but worried there will be noticable audio quality differences compared to the polycom |
| 15:07.58 | beek_ | jelly-bean: For $89 you could have a Polycom 320/330 |
| 15:09.26 | bmoraca | jelly-bean: stick with Polycom. |
| 15:09.30 | Aiatek | <jelly-bean> linksys phones are very good |
| 15:10.36 | jaytee | <polycom> tastes great! |
| 15:10.44 | jaytee | <linkysys> less filling! |
| 15:10.58 | ck_28 | @russellb one more question do you recommend a distro like AsteriskNOW or .. have asterisk 1.6 core ? |
| 15:11.03 | jaytee | and the arguement continues ad nauseum ad infinitum |
| 15:11.13 | beek_ | jaytee: It's a floor wax. No, it's a desert topping. |
| 15:11.18 | jaytee | lol |
| 15:11.22 | jaytee | it's both! |
| 15:11.56 | russellb | ck_28: whatever you want ... if you use a distro, i would prefer AsteriskNOW |
| 15:11.59 | jaytee | beek, those were the halcyon days of SNL |
| 15:12.09 | beek_ | jaytee: I miss them. |
| 15:12.11 | russellb | those are the only asterisk binary packages I endorse :-) |
| 15:12.12 | ck_28 | AsteriskNOW - 1.5.0 is loading asterisk 1.4 |
| 15:12.17 | lesouvage | I run into bug http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=14723 ([May 12 10:49:37] ERROR[14040]: channel.c:2043 __ast_read: ast_read() called with no recorded file descriptor.) . Does any of you know about the status of this error in latest svn version? |
| 15:12.35 | Aiatek | but do you know about audio problems with linksys? |
| 15:13.05 | Aiatek | or a bug or something working with asterisk? |
| 15:13.21 | ck_28 | @russellb right ? |
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| 15:13.52 | bmoraca | Aiatek: linksys phones aren't terrible i suppose...my problem with them is that if they're the same price as a Polycom, i'm going with the polycom because they're higher quality components and (in my opinion) easier to work with. |
| 15:14.14 | lesouvage | Aiatek: maybe you are refering to silence surpression that ha to be disabled or otherwise causes problems. |
| 15:14.45 | Aiatek | i think linksys are less expensive |
| 15:15.06 | jelly-bean | we want Polycom but we have a couple Plantronics CS55 which have the little thing that lifts up the receiver so u can use the wireless headset... the shape of pretty much all the Polycom phone bases has no bottom so if the phone lifts off the base it falls down |
| 15:15.32 | [TK]D-Fender | there are very few reasons to pick Linksys over Polycom in North America |
| 15:15.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jelly-bean: LIFTERS. GAH |
| 15:15.58 | Aiatek | i know i love polycom |
| 15:16.12 | Aiatek | but the price sometimes are not the same |
| 15:16.32 | Aiatek | and when you need to buy 100 phones for an implementation |
| 15:17.29 | mort_gib | Aiatek: In a 100 user setup you should be able to afford decent phones.... |
| 15:17.30 | bmoraca | Aiatek: and how much of that savings will be lost when phones have problems (real or perceived) due to lower quality components and need to be replaced/troubleshot/explained to customers and users that to save $20/phone we went with a lower quality device? |
| 15:18.07 | Aiatek | but show me real details about linksys bugs |
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| 15:18.33 | mort_gib | Aiatek: It does not work like that, he is right |
| 15:18.47 | bmoraca | Aiatek: i'm not talking about bugs. i'm talking about the fact that the linksys speakers and handsets sound like crap in a tin can and that the components used are lower quality |
| 15:19.16 | tzafrir_laptop | mort_gib, but then again, if $foo phones are good enough, why pay extra 10% for $bar phones? |
| 15:19.27 | [TK]D-Fender | bmoraca: I wouldn't go that far |
| 15:19.49 | [TK]D-Fender | bmoraca: I found the Linksys "decent", just not quite worth it on this continent. |
| 15:20.02 | mort_gib | tzafrir_laptop: Eh, well yes, but I never liked foo |
| 15:20.26 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: don't forget "good enough" tends to get worse and worse once you've got them, and then you're stuck. |
| 15:20.31 | Aiatek | look in the real world you need to be competitive in quality and price |
| 15:20.35 | bmoraca | Aiatek: the biggest issue you'll run into in a large asterisk deployment is what the customer perceives they should be getting and what they actually get. if you tell them they're getting an all-new digital system with all these bells and whistles and the reality is that the phone on their desk sounds the same or worse than their 20-year-old Merlin phone, they're going to complain. |
| 15:20.53 | tzafrir_laptop | They may be better, but if you don't need that extra functionality, you have just wasted money |
| 15:20.59 | mort_gib | More to the point, users that are new to the system WILL look for "issues" |
| 15:21.13 | mort_gib | Don't give them bad phones if you can avoid it |
| 15:21.26 | Aiatek | and when you have competitors you need to know what is the best for you and your client |
| 15:21.33 | bmoraca | tzafrir_laptop: that's why you use the Polycom 330 instead of the Polycom 550. |
| 15:22.32 | bmoraca | Aiatek: the bottom line is that the reality of it doesn't matter. the customer will make your life a living hell if the brand new system they paid $30,000 for sounds the same or worse as their old one or if they have a single problem with their phones. |
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| 15:22.58 | Aiatek | but linksys dont have problems in my opinion |
| 15:23.02 | tzafrir_laptop | and frankly, I don't like any of them. The fact that I depend on hit-and-miss games with properitary firmware I have no control on, makes me dislike the whole idea |
| 15:23.24 | Aiatek | because i have one year working with linksys in many implementations |
| 15:23.49 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: Of course SNOM's OSS firmware has had a long history of "issues". Sometimes to process doesn't matter either |
| 15:23.58 | [TK]D-Fender | "Open" craps is still crap. |
| 15:24.00 | Aiatek | and i dont have any complaint |
| 15:24.25 | tzafrir_laptop | [TK]D-Fender, what do you mean by OSS firmware? |
| 15:24.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Snom saw linux based and available is it not? Or have I somehow confused them with someone else? |
| 15:25.00 | tzafrir_laptop | Building a stack on Linux does not make it free |
| 15:25.12 | [TK]D-Fender | s/saw/are |
| 15:25.47 | [TK]D-Fender | tzafrir_laptop: I remember the accessibility of this being a selling point... |
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| 15:27.09 | tzafrir_laptop | SNOMs are indeed Linux based. That does not mean I can reprogram them |
| 15:27.18 | therealcircut | u could.... |
| 15:27.29 | therealcircut | mount -t jffs2 image.bin /mnt/snomfw |
| 15:33.17 | therealcircut | ugh |
| 15:33.21 | therealcircut | calm before the storm... |
| 15:33.47 | therealcircut | think ill escape to denver for a few days after this migration |
| 15:36.17 | Aiatek | hehehehehhehe |
| 15:42.57 | Katty | wonders what to have for lunch. |
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| 15:46.47 | eppigy | Katty: i am hungry too |
| 15:46.51 | jaytee | me three |
| 15:47.28 | beek_ | checks to see if there are any young children around that could be roasted... |
| 15:47.33 | jaytee | I'm thinking Jimmy John's Subs. A Hunter's Club roast beef would work for me |
| 15:47.37 | Nugget | It's tricky to rock a rhyme -- to rock a rhyme that's right on time -- it's tricky! |
| 15:48.34 | Katty | let's go get lunch. |
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| 15:53.17 | eppigy | yesh |
| 15:59.06 | Katty | eppigy: I AM GOING TO VEGAS |
| 15:59.13 | Katty | eppigy: :> |
| 16:02.09 | eppigy | :D |
| 16:02.12 | eppigy | CAN I COME |
| 16:03.05 | Katty | only if you are prepared to road trip. |
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| 16:03.14 | Katty | with road tripping gears. |
| 16:03.27 | Katty | and flipflops. |
| 16:06.16 | Katty | afks for lunch |
| 16:09.00 | Nukemizer | Qwell: It was suggested that I ask you about a problem i am having with "asterisk Now" iso image. If you can help, I notice that the 1.5 version i got two weeks ago has some issue with no CDR and some VM prompts are missing. Is there a location that I can find some info about such fixes ? thank you for any help or direction that you can provide. |
| 16:09.39 | Qwell | Nukemizer: configure cdr_odbc or install cdr_mysql |
| 16:09.44 | Qwell | as for the prompts - update |
| 16:11.11 | Nukemizer | Qwell: thank you, I will start in that direction. |
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| 16:18.04 | tank__ | hello room |
| 16:18.39 | tank__ | can anyone recommend a good voip provider? |
| 16:18.57 | hardwire | nope |
| 16:19.04 | hardwire | just stick with pots |
| 16:19.17 | tank__ | so its not good? |
| 16:19.22 | n3hxs | I use les.net |
| 16:19.23 | hardwire | voip is horrible. |
| 16:19.43 | n3hxs | but there are many out there. Google? |
| 16:19.48 | tank__ | ive tried |
| 16:19.57 | tank__ | but most are in order of who pays the most |
| 16:20.07 | hardwire | n3hxs: lots of insurance providers too. and life insurance salesmen. |
| 16:20.08 | tank__ | i figured experience would serve as better judgement |
| 16:20.47 | hardwire | tank__: what country are you in? |
| 16:20.48 | tank__ | by "who pays the most", i meant who pays the most for their advertisement spot |
| 16:20.52 | n3hxs | For US,CA and Costa Rica, les.net is ok for me. |
| 16:20.58 | tank__ | USA |
| 16:22.06 | hardwire | are you going to be using asterisk? |
| 16:22.11 | tank__ | yup |
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| 16:22.35 | hardwire | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers+Residential#USA |
| 16:22.39 | hardwire | I prefer teliax through my own experience |
| 16:22.43 | hardwire | they refuse to suck. |
| 16:22.58 | hardwire | and if you mention broadvoice I'll ban you from the channel.. somehow.. |
| 16:23.03 | hardwire | waves his fist in the air. |
| 16:23.06 | tank__ | lmao |
| 16:23.19 | tank__ | thats exactly who... |
| 16:23.25 | bmoraca | hardwire: does teliax do toll-free inbound? |
| 16:23.26 | tank__ | wow, so no to that one |
| 16:23.32 | hardwire | bmoraca: si |
| 16:23.39 | denon | hardwire: I've seen several voice issues with teliax .. they aren't bad, but I don't think it's safe to say they're infalliable |
| 16:23.51 | hardwire | denon: I said they refuse to suck :) |
| 16:23.53 | bmoraca | hardwire: hmmm....any idea on their rate structure? |
| 16:24.08 | bmoraca | looking at their site now, but i'd doubt they'd publish |
| 16:24.23 | hardwire | bmoraca: it all depends on volume. talk to glove at teliax dot com for volume.. otherwise it's all on their website. |
| 16:24.31 | denon | doesn't really make sense :) |
| 16:24.45 | tank__ | how about viatalk? |
| 16:24.45 | hardwire | that's who I talk to at least. |
| 16:25.52 | hardwire | it seems like I've had less issues with teliax than many of the other wholesale providers an employee of ours suggests. |
| 16:26.05 | hardwire | and I don't even want to rattle off that list.. you'd all think we were crooks. |
| 16:26.36 | bmoraca | hrm...$1000/mo commitment to get wholesale rates...not sure if i like that idea |
| 16:27.19 | hardwire | bmoraca: I don't mind.. we pass that much. |
| 16:28.19 | hardwire | if you wanted to use at&t or any other big-company provider you need to get approved for a certain amount of credit first.. and possibly have a minimum as well. |
| 16:28.23 | bmoraca | hardwire: right, but currently, my only use for them would be toll-free inbound...my PRI provider has terrible rates for toll-free, but great rates for local/long distance termination |
| 16:28.42 | hardwire | bmoraca: we don't use them for toll-free inbound since we need AK |
| 16:28.48 | hardwire | and the rates for that aren't worked out yet. |
| 16:28.57 | hardwire | like.. they are worked out.. just too high. |
| 16:29.09 | hardwire | privmsg me for toll-free inbound through another provider. |
| 16:29.10 | bmoraca | hardwire: did you finally get your AK trunks going? |
| 16:29.15 | hardwire | bmoraca: most |
| 16:29.18 | bmoraca | nice |
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| 17:00.30 | plundra | When I set call forwarding on my 7940, can I some how make that act like a Transfer()? I don't want to see my own number, but rather who's calling :-P |
| 17:01.07 | plundra | (Yes I asked the same this morning, but that was like 9 hours ago, someone might have dropped in or waked up, I figure) |
| 17:02.40 | Nukemizer | Qwell: I originally restored from my backup and CDR records show up,are these records stored for review not in the database ? which is why i can see the older records, but not have any new records ? |
| 17:04.22 | therealcircut | well i just setup Heartbeat+drbd for my asterisk install |
| 17:04.27 | therealcircut | we will see if it works.. |
| 17:06.01 | bmoraca | plundra: i don't believe that the built-in call forward option on the 7940 supports callerid passthru |
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| 17:08.50 | plundra | bmoraca: I don't thing passing it along would help (I'm forwarding to an external number, via my sip-provider). |
| 17:09.30 | plundra | Now I'll just use the "regular" hack, when you dial an extension to set call forwarding etc. |
| 17:09.38 | plundra | But then I get no feedback on the phone directly. |
| 17:10.06 | plundra | Oh well, now it'll work with all phones instead I guess :-) |
| 17:10.53 | bmoraca | plundra: if your sip provider doesn't allow you to outpulse your own callerid, then what you want to accomplish won't be possible |
| 17:11.43 | plundra | bmoraca: I think Transfer() just sends some nice header, like Refer-to or whatever? |
| 17:12.38 | bmoraca | plundra: doesn't matter. if your outbound trunk to the PSTN forces a specific callerid, that's the only callerid that will show up on your outside phones regardless. |
| 17:14.12 | plundra | bmoraca: Surely their end can tell the difference between me Transfer()-ing and Dial()-ing? |
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| 17:14.47 | bmoraca | plundra: you're not listening. they don't care one way or another. all they see is a phone call. |
| 17:14.49 | plundra | bmoraca: I mean, there is no doubt about it :-P |
| 17:15.01 | tank__ | ahh |
| 17:15.10 | plundra | bmoraca: But, I'm not calling, I'm telling them, in the header, to redirect the call coming in? |
| 17:15.22 | tank__ | ok someone! please! lol.... whats a good voip provider? with minimal downtime? |
| 17:15.35 | tank__ | or is there a voip channel i could go to ? |
| 17:16.04 | plundra | bmoraca: Because it _does_ work :-P If I do Transfer(SIP/mymobilephone@providerfoo); and dial in to that, I see whoever is dialing in on my phone, not my outgoing number on the pbx. |
| 17:16.21 | bmoraca | plundra: again, my discussion is under the circumstance that your outbound provider does not allow you to specify your own callerid. if they do, great, you'll get what you want. |
| 17:16.57 | plundra | bmoraca: They don't, I've tried setting the CALLERID(num) to something weird and then Dial()-ing out. |
| 17:17.59 | Katty | had quiznos! :> |
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| 17:18.28 | Katty | omg |
| 17:18.37 | Katty | i just found what i think is a tick, crawling up my arm. |
| 17:18.43 | Katty | wtf |
| 17:19.02 | Katty | I NEED A SHOWER |
| 17:20.26 | plundra | bmoraca: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3515 Is the specification of sip refering. So yes, the provider DOES know if it's a call or a transfer. |
| 17:20.28 | therealcircut | dont forget the lime! |
| 17:20.48 | Katty | oh man. |
| 17:20.54 | Katty | i'm taking my pup to the vet tonight |
| 17:21.05 | Katty | i sure hope he didn't drag anything inside while playing in the back yard. |
| 17:21.19 | therealcircut | get that frontline stuff |
| 17:21.23 | Katty | psh |
| 17:21.24 | Katty | forget that |
| 17:21.34 | Katty | he can take a monthly pill with tick prevention |
| 17:21.35 | therealcircut | my dogs all got it, never had a flee / ticket problem |
| 17:21.39 | Katty | (or is that frontline)? |
| 17:21.49 | therealcircut | frontline is a drop they put on the dogs back |
| 17:21.55 | therealcircut | it grows out with their fur |
| 17:21.57 | Katty | oooh, i see. |
| 17:22.06 | therealcircut | once a year deal |
| 17:22.08 | Katty | doesn't that make them oily tho? |
| 17:22.15 | therealcircut | not really |
| 17:22.15 | Katty | for like, a week |
| 17:22.20 | therealcircut | they are shorthaired |
| 17:22.29 | therealcircut | and i never really notice them shed / oily |
| 17:22.36 | Katty | riddick isn't exactly short haired |
| 17:22.46 | Katty | he leaves fur everywhere. |
| 17:22.52 | Katty | literally, everywhere |
| 17:23.03 | therealcircut | hehee |
| 17:23.06 | therealcircut | what kind of dog/ |
| 17:23.07 | Katty | then again, his winter coat and puppy fur is coming off. |
| 17:23.12 | Katty | german shepherd |
| 17:23.15 | therealcircut | ah |
| 17:23.15 | Katty | OH BOY! |
| 17:23.20 | Katty | a chance to show off mah doggy! |
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| 17:23.21 | Katty | gets photos |
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| 17:24.16 | Katty | http://www.flickr.com/photos/izaah/3437632849/ |
| 17:24.24 | Katty | there's like 300 photos in that album of him. |
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| 17:24.38 | Katty | and he's ummm... 9 months |
| 17:25.01 | sjzzalx | Hello. I want every call my Asterisk box makes ever to be recorded. How can I do this? Good, recent docs on recording/recording extensions would be appreciated. |
| 17:25.20 | therealcircut | wow |
| 17:25.25 | Katty | sjzzalx: please review MixMonitor() and consider hard drive requirements. |
| 17:25.27 | therealcircut | pretty big dog for only 9 months |
| 17:25.36 | Katty | therealcircut: mhmm. |
| 17:25.54 | Katty | therealcircut: he's registered too. full breeding rights. |
| 17:25.58 | therealcircut | nice |
| 17:26.04 | Katty | therealcircut: tho i doubt i'll ever breed him. he's my kid. |
| 17:26.17 | Katty | therealcircut: Kaiser Riddick der Kleine Hobbit mit Waggytail. |
| 17:26.18 | therealcircut | so get him laid lol |
| 17:26.23 | Katty | therealcircut: and yes, that's on his papers! |
| 17:27.00 | therealcircut | one of my dogs ran off n laid up some bitch |
| 17:27.08 | therealcircut | was missing for like 2 hrs |
| 17:27.19 | Katty | i've been thinking about getting him a girlfriend actually |
| 17:27.22 | Katty | not a shepherd... a dobie |
| 17:27.33 | therealcircut | then i see him trodding back to the house with this shit eating grin on his face |
| 17:28.04 | Katty | therealcircut: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XZmOrOmdZE <- 8 months. |
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| 17:29.22 | Katty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2d_QN16BLE <- also around 8 months. |
| 17:29.29 | therealcircut | shez man |
| 17:29.44 | therealcircut | being gung-ho about yer pup is all fine n good |
| 17:29.51 | therealcircut | but draw the line at dressin him up |
| 17:30.00 | Katty | psh! |
| 17:30.08 | therealcircut | if dogs could operate shotguns i think that would be the only situation where they would use the skill |
| 17:30.18 | Katty | but he's so CUTE! |
| 17:30.26 | Katty | can't help mahself ;P |
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| 17:36.52 | sjzzalx | Hmm. So, I've recorded a thing with MixMonitor(), but I can't figure out what's supposed to play it. Do I need to convert it with sox first? |
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| 17:39.31 | [TK]D-Fender | sjzzalx: Have you considered looking at what FORMAT you chose to record it in? |
| 17:39.46 | [TK]D-Fender | sjzzalx: Or maybe... jsut trying to play it with some player app? |
| 17:40.06 | sjzzalx | I have considered that, but I assume there's a default, because none of the docs I've seen give spot to specify a format. |
| 17:40.13 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: you'll be amused by these. |
| 17:40.16 | sjzzalx | and I've tried playing with mplayer and sox so far. |
| 17:40.33 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: http://www.flickr.com/photos/izaah/3512376284/in/set-72157608822234737/ & http://www.flickr.com/photos/izaah/3511568007/in/set-72157608822234737/ |
| 17:40.53 | [TK]D-Fender | sjzzalx: "core show application monitor" <- the only doc you need |
| 17:41.53 | [TK]D-Fender | sjzzalx: and.... |
| 17:41.56 | [TK]D-Fender | ~assume |
| 17:41.57 | infobot | About assumptions : http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Long_Kiss_Goodnight"e=assume.txt&file=assume.wav It makes an (ass) out of (u) and (me) |
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| 17:47.27 | boch | hi all, anyone used the libsox to convert from mp3 to ulaw ? im having some trouble to understand the api |
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| 17:55.44 | [TK]D-Fender | boch: * CLI "help file convert" |
| 17:56.17 | `paul | can i have a way to activate voicemail thru phone.... (enable or disable it....) |
| 17:56.28 | boch | [TK]D-Fender, i want to use libsox in my project |
| 17:56.34 | [TK]D-Fender | `paul: "acivate"? huh? |
| 17:56.57 | [TK]D-Fender | boch: then maybe you should ask them for support of their lib. Nobody here really uses it directly |
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| 18:05.27 | `paul | tkfender: like i enter a code then all calls goes to voicemail then enter another code then all calls goes to my phone |
| 18:05.58 | [TK]D-Fender | `paul: there is no magic code for "all calls go to X". |
| 18:06.22 | [TK]D-Fender | `paul: This is all dialplan, and odds are you'll have all sorts of places to mod to account for this |
| 18:06.32 | [TK]D-Fender | `paul: You have to create this logic yourself |
| 18:07.15 | [TK]D-Fender | `paul: For a basic calls to a single device it probably won't require too much |
| 18:08.38 | kerx | Any documentation for 1.6.x, especially at least geared towards someone upgrading from 1.4.x? The UPGRADING-1.6.txt doesn't seem to be enough, I'm not showing enough in SIP Configuration for peer's. |
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| 18:10.15 | sikanrong | hi everybody - I'm a very experienced developer, but I'm new to telephony. Anyway I've installed asterisk and I've been reading heaps about SIP, general telephony stuff, and asterisk configuration files, and dial plans. While all this stuff makes sense, I just want some hands-on stuff to do; so I was wondering, how do you get started making calls to your server and testing out dial plans, etc? I just want to develop some super-simpl |
| 18:10.40 | sjzzalx | cut off at: I just want to develop some super-simpl |
| 18:11.01 | sikanrong | ...simple applications so I can practice tweaking the configuration files, etc |
| 18:11.13 | sikanrong | and also to start messing with more complex dial plans |
| 18:11.19 | kerx | sikandrong: Recently I enjoyed creating a One-Touch 3-Way Application |
| 18:11.30 | kerx | It required the use of AGI + AMI |
| 18:11.36 | kerx | So it was lot's of FUN :) |
| 18:12.21 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: How do you get started? Easy. EDownload & isntall *. Strip down your dialplan and sip config to a minimum, then isntall a soft-phone and get busy |
| 18:12.24 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 18:12.25 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 18:12.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^ |
| 18:12.46 | sikanrong | thanks! |
| 18:12.50 | [TK]D-Fender | kerx: How is it not "enough"? |
| 18:12.50 | kerx | TK, is there a book on 1.6 yet? Or any place you refer to for 1.6? I'm dyin' right now. |
| 18:13.08 | sikanrong | ahh, okay so now I get it |
| 18:13.10 | sikanrong | soft-fone |
| 18:13.13 | Katty | there you seee herrrr |
| 18:13.14 | sikanrong | didn't know that existed |
| 18:13.17 | [TK]D-Fender | kerx: so am I.... of old age. Doc says I may only have another half-dozen decades left in me |
| 18:13.19 | Katty | sitting there across the wayyyyy! |
| 18:13.23 | kerx | [TK]D-Fender: I'm passing back 401 Unauth's to my peer's w/ my 1.4 config's. I'm not noticing any mention of changes in the UPGRADING-1.6.txt ? |
| 18:13.26 | [TK]D-Fender | ~softphone |
| 18:13.27 | infobot | [~softphone] A soft-phone is a program that lets your computer use a compatible audio interface (usually a speaker&mic, or headset), and optionally a webcam, to place VoIP calls with a given protocol (SIP/IAX/H.323/MGCP/etc). For links enter ~zoiper , ~xlite , ~twinkle , ~bria , ~eyebeam , ~ekiga |
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| 18:13.37 | sikanrong | yeah - i sort of inferred the definition |
| 18:13.43 | sikanrong | i just have never heard the term before |
| 18:13.47 | sikanrong | this will help me so much! |
| 18:14.02 | sikanrong | sucks to be so new that every new term confuses, I'm sure you can all remember |
| 18:14.03 | [TK]D-Fender | kerx: there is little magic here... |
| 18:14.29 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: the book provides a rather wide scope of telephony basics which should help |
| 18:14.32 | kerx | tap's the big black hat |
| 18:14.42 | sikanrong | fully downloading it |
| 18:14.49 | kerx | good book! |
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| 18:16.15 | sikanrong | this is gonna be *sick* - thanks errybody |
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| 18:22.55 | profXavier | hi, I am attempting to write a script that will grab the latest firmware for my Polycom IP601 phone |
| 18:23.06 | profXavier | where would I grab that from, using wget ? |
| 18:24.02 | therealcircut | hm |
| 18:24.13 | therealcircut | for a wildcard tdm400p with 2 fxs and 2 fxo modules |
| 18:24.36 | therealcircut | do i need to have the lines plugged in to get dahdi_genconf & dahdi_cfg to recognise them? |
| 18:25.16 | tzafrir_laptop | no |
| 18:25.41 | tzafrir_laptop | you need the driver loaded, though |
| 18:25.52 | tzafrir_laptop | what's the output of: dahdi_hardware; lsdahdi |
| 18:27.01 | therealcircut | http://pastebin.com/d2f2c6f00 |
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| 18:29.41 | therealcircut | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.45 | therealcircut | thats line 221 |
| 18:32.22 | lesouvage | I just did a fresh svn asterisk install and now I got the message "[May 12 20:26:14] ERROR[2504]: astobj2.c:116 INTERNAL_OBJ: bad magic number 0x0 for 0xb6a37288" . A google search doesn't lead to anything. Any idea? |
| 18:34.17 | therealcircut | hmm |
| 18:34.41 | therealcircut | tzafrir_laptop: upgrading to dahdi 2.2.0-rc2 seems to make the error go away |
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| 18:37.11 | [TK]D-Fender | profXavier: You could try parsing it out of this page |
| 18:37.15 | [TK]D-Fender | profXavier: http://downloads.polycom.com/voice/voip/sip_sw_releases_matrix.html |
| 18:37.25 | [TK]D-Fender | profXavier: But this can be a dangerous thing to automater |
| 18:38.37 | [TK]D-Fender | -r |
| 18:39.05 | profXavier | haha |
| 18:39.09 | nkohh | good morning, [TK]D-Fender! I managed to solve my issue yesterday. as usual, it was a case of me not reading sufficiently :-) |
| 18:39.12 | profXavier | yeah, I saw that as well Fender |
| 18:40.06 | [TK]D-Fender | profXavier: You can turn your back one moment and the next your phone is bricked |
| 18:40.48 | therealcircut | only problem i had auto-upgrading my polycom 301 & 601's was the configs got blown away ;/ |
| 18:41.19 | rob0 | By chance, is there anyone here from Asterlink? They seem to be down. |
| 18:42.08 | rob0 | (any other asterlink users getting SIP response 603 "Declined" back from 208.64.201.20 ?) |
| 18:42.41 | rob0 | also, can't login at their web site, so I'm pretty sure it's on their end :( |
| 18:43.15 | Qwell | rob0: look at their whois. |
| 18:43.21 | Qwell | wouldn't surprise me at all. |
| 18:44.27 | rob0 | anthm said he was no longer there. The sad thing is, I have an account balance of ~$30. |
| 18:45.04 | rob0 | ~itsplist-us |
| 18:45.05 | infobot | [~itsplist-us] Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones : http://www.teliax.com , http://connect.voicepulse.com , http://www.nufone.net , http://www.broadvoice.com, http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net |
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| 18:47.29 | rob0 | http://www.asterlink.com/company.htm still the same page from before the change of owner. |
| 18:47.41 | therealcircut | hm upgrading to dahdi-tools 2.2.0 and dahdi-linux 2.2.0 seems to have fixed my problems |
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| 18:55.13 | therealcircut | egh |
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| 18:58.46 | sikanrong | alright - so I set it up to answer and play the welcome message |
| 18:58.58 | sikanrong | and i make the call from the softfone and it says it gets answered |
| 18:59.06 | sikanrong | and then asterisk says it's playing all kinds of messages |
| 18:59.09 | sikanrong | but I don't hear them!! |
| 18:59.28 | sikanrong | any clues? |
| 18:59.31 | sikanrong | maybe a package i didn't install? |
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| 19:01.59 | KavanS | who runs info bot? |
| 19:02.05 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: Go prove your sound card settings are fine |
| 19:02.17 | [TK]D-Fender | KavanS: What about it? |
| 19:02.48 | KavanS | know what info script that is running? I'm assuming it's eggdrop tcl...just looking for something similar for a channel |
| 19:03.03 | sikanrong | how do i prove it? |
| 19:03.07 | sikanrong | I can listen to music |
| 19:03.12 | sikanrong | i mean, generally it seems fine |
| 19:03.22 | sikanrong | any tips? do i have to configure it for asterisk specifically? |
| 19:03.28 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: Check the mixer controls, and your app's controls. |
| 19:03.41 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: And please describe the networking between * and your softphone |
| 19:03.45 | lesouvage | Does any of you use the g parameter in the dial statement succesfully with the latest versions of Asterisk (1.4 and 1.6) . |
| 19:04.04 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: Whats your issue? |
| 19:04.18 | sikanrong | * is on a linux machine on my local network, it has .1.3 and my mac is the softfone which is 'expresstalk' on 1.4 |
| 19:04.29 | sikanrong | any specific mixer control I should know about? |
| 19:04.31 | *** part/#asterisk matsk (n=matkar@c-a981e253.174-6-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:04.37 | sikanrong | and is this the computer with the softfone or *? |
| 19:04.48 | sikanrong | (I mean, which would I look at sound-card stuff for) |
| 19:04.54 | sikanrong | because as far as I know, both cards are fine |
| 19:05.12 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: Only one that matters is your softphone's side |
| 19:05.18 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: * does not need a sound card |
| 19:05.51 | sikanrong | i didn't think |
| 19:05.57 | sikanrong | alright - so anyway, if the sound card isn't the deal |
| 19:06.17 | lesouvage | I got an error message that I found back in the bugtracker (http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=14723) but not in relation with the g parameter. Dowgrading is suggested as a solution but that sounds as a step back. |
| 19:06.19 | sikanrong | ahhhh |
| 19:06.21 | sikanrong | alright I get it |
| 19:06.22 | therealcircut | could someone help me understand this: |
| 19:06.24 | therealcircut | http://pastebin.com/d7f156ce2 |
| 19:06.27 | sikanrong | i read the logs a bit more |
| 19:06.32 | sikanrong | it can't find the file i want it to |
| 19:06.43 | therealcircut | there are 2 definitions for 'group='... why? |
| 19:07.21 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: sorry, I forgot to address my answer to your qeustion considering y problem. |
| 19:07.40 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: Your configs, you tell US |
| 19:07.45 | *** join/#asterisk voxter (n=voxter@190.10.13.241) |
| 19:07.50 | therealcircut | dude was generated by chan_dahdi |
| 19:07.51 | therealcircut | erm |
| 19:07.55 | therealcircut | dahdi_gencon |
| 19:07.56 | therealcircut | +f |
| 19:07.59 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: well... you do have a problem, right? What is it? |
| 19:08.04 | therealcircut | sheeze i cant freakin type |
| 19:08.12 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: maybe that script is busted. |
| 19:08.21 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: That last setting is ignored |
| 19:10.56 | therealcircut | after a channel => 23 things get ignored right? |
| 19:11.06 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: The problem is that my dialstatement with g parameter doesn't go on for the calling channel when the called channel has hangup. It generates an error : [May 12 10:49:37] ERROR[14040]: channel.c:2043 __ast_read: ast_read() called with no recorded file descriptor. |
| 19:11.35 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: What version, and could you pastebin a new failure for us now? |
| 19:11.50 | *** join/#asterisk ReDNeQ (n=ReDNeQ@70.114.229.58) |
| 19:12.04 | sikanrong | hmm |
| 19:12.09 | sikanrong | now it says it's playing stuff back |
| 19:12.12 | sikanrong | and it can find it and stuf |
| 19:12.16 | sikanrong | but I still hear nothing |
| 19:12.20 | sikanrong | :( |
| 19:12.22 | sikanrong | any tips? |
| 19:12.23 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: Settings after a channel definition only apply to the NEXT channel(s) being assigned. Sequentially overriden |
| 19:12.28 | [TK]D-Fender | sikanrong: PASTEBIN the CLI output of your call attempt from beginning to end. |
| 19:12.29 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 19:12.30 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste , or , http://bin.cakephp.org/ |
| 19:12.32 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^^^ |
| 19:13.35 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: it was version 1.4.21.2 and I also tried the latest svn version because it was suggested that the bug was solved. I'm now in the proces of downgrading to 1.4.18.1 |
| 19:14.20 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: but I actually hate this downgrading of my system |
| 19:16.13 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: I can imagine that the g parameter isn't used that often and might get broken in the proces |
| 19:19.12 | *** join/#asterisk SkywaIker (n=pirch@58.147.17.166) |
| 19:21.23 | therealcircut | the beauty of failing over to a new phone system is no one can call you when the phone system goes down |
| 19:23.59 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: see http://www.pastebin.be/18345 for the actual asterisk script that leads to the errormessage |
| 19:28.27 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: there is no "g" in there at all |
| 19:29.55 | *** join/#asterisk eykosioux (n=eykosiou@92.40.50.122.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) |
| 19:30.15 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: Sorry, I made a paste of a version I removed the g for testing. There should be a g parameter in the dialstatement. Is you impression that this should work? |
| 19:30.42 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: I asked you to show me a FAILURE :) How is this "hard"? |
| 19:31.56 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: the failure is the error message and the ending of both channels instead of only the called channel. |
| 19:32.40 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: .... "show me" <- |
| 19:33.20 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: [May 12 10:49:37] ERROR[14040]: channel.c:2043 __ast_read: ast_read() called with no recorded file descriptor. and many many times in a row |
| 19:33.40 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: .... Full bloody pastebin |
| 19:34.25 | [TK]D-Fender | lesouvage: Don't show me a single drop of blood and then ask for an autopsy of it |
| 19:36.33 | *** join/#asterisk Chainsaw (n=chainsaw@gentoo/developer/atheme.member.chainsaw) |
| 19:37.10 | therealcircut | any use cuil.com for searches? |
| 19:37.16 | *** join/#asterisk ReDNeQ (n=ReDNeQ@70.114.229.58) |
| 19:38.35 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: Its the sh1zn1t y0! |
| 19:38.51 | therealcircut | really? i find it annoying |
| 19:38.54 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: Or at least... that's what the other 3 people using is say..... |
| 19:39.03 | therealcircut | hahah |
| 19:39.15 | therealcircut | a friend of mine is like 'OH DUDE ITS A GOOGLE KILLER!" |
| 19:39.40 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: The jury is out as to whether you can technically "die from laughter" |
| 19:39.47 | therealcircut | i searched for asterisk pbx and it doesnt even list digium or asterisk.org |
| 19:39.58 | [TK]D-Fender | therealcircut: But I'm sure they're laughing pretty hard ;) |
| 19:40.02 | jaytee | when it comes to search engines I still prefer goosh.org |
| 19:40.10 | lesouvage | [TK]D-Fender: OK, wait a moment. I just end the 1.4.18.1 build so perhaps it will work now :-) For now just a drop to show, sorry lost event_log in the downgrade process |
| 19:40.41 | therealcircut | jaytee: word!!! |
| 19:40.58 | jaytee | werd! |
| 19:41.24 | therealcircut | even works in iceweasel on linux |
| 19:41.40 | therealcircut | aight fellas, 15 mins till we drop the t1 |
| 19:41.58 | jaytee | or firefux on ubunut Jizzy Jackofflope |
| 19:42.35 | jaytee | drop it like a bad habit |
| 19:42.52 | therealcircut | heheh |
| 19:42.57 | therealcircut | im a gentoo man |
| 19:43.07 | jaytee | frakkin ricers! |
| 19:43.14 | therealcircut | :O |
| 19:43.21 | jaytee | we have real gentoos here |
| 19:43.28 | jaytee | and King penguins too |
| 19:43.42 | jaytee | my favorites are the Rockhoppers though |
| 19:43.51 | therealcircut | wtf are you on about |
| 19:43.54 | *** join/#asterisk voxter (n=voxter@190.241.16.138) |
| 19:44.05 | jaytee | I work at a zoo and we have a penguin exhibit |
| 19:44.57 | therealcircut | they let u irc from the penguin habitat? |
| 19:45.03 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Here we dress like penguins and at like they're in a zoo ;) |
| 19:45.45 | jaytee | tomorrow I get a behind the scenes look at our new Komodo dragon exhibit. |
| 19:46.01 | therealcircut | pull their tail.. i hear they like that |
| 19:46.09 | jaytee | lol |
| 19:47.18 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: Poisonous bastards they are... |
| 19:47.30 | [TK]D-Fender | DANGER WILL ROBINSON! |
| 19:48.18 | *** part/#asterisk jelly-bean (n=jelly@c-76-23-46-62.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:48.19 | *** join/#asterisk duckz (n=duckz@81-31-157-49.vm.dnshosting.it) |
| 19:49.45 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, I'm just gonna get to look at them behind glass, I'm not gonna hug them or ride them |
| 19:49.50 | therealcircut | they are so big because of 'island giantism' |
| 19:50.46 | therealcircut | they are listed as 'vulnerable' to extinction.. |
| 19:50.54 | therealcircut | im sorry if one of those bastards is chasing me down |
| 19:51.09 | therealcircut | you better believe im gonna whack that sucker with a rock if i get a chance |
| 19:51.42 | rob0 | I want a low-cost pay-as-you-go USA SIP termination provider. (I've looked at ~itsplist-us.) I also want one with same-day activation and pay by credit-card. Any favorites within those delimiters? TY. |
| 19:52.23 | therealcircut | nufone.net |
| 19:56.04 | rob0 | US 5c/minute, seems a bit high to me |
| 19:56.12 | therealcircut | huh |
| 19:56.18 | therealcircut | they must have changed it |
| 19:56.24 | therealcircut | used to be 2c / min |
| 19:56.32 | rob0 | oh some of them are |
| 19:57.07 | rob0 | I just started out with some remote numbers. Looking in more populous areas, I think they're 2c. |
| 20:01.02 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0: les.net is pretty solid @ 1.5c or less / min |
| 20:01.54 | rob0 | One-Time Setup: $0.00 Monthly Fee: $0.00 good so far :) |
| 20:01.55 | [TK]D-Fender | rob0: http://www.voicepulse.com/plans/default.aspx?plan=lnkPlan7 |
| 20:02.35 | rob0 | yeah, that looks good too |
| 20:13.55 | therealcircut | wow |
| 20:13.58 | therealcircut | hearding up the people |
| 20:14.25 | eppigy | Katty: I only wear flip flops when I am in casual attire |
| 20:14.30 | eppigy | that is all i wear |
| 20:14.35 | eppigy | it is awesome |
| 20:14.48 | *** join/#asterisk Shazaum (n=Shazaum@unaffiliated/shazaum) |
| 20:15.21 | therealcircut | get some shoes you hippy |
| 20:15.22 | Shazaum | hi |
| 20:15.41 | eppigy | therealcircut: i wear kenneth cole oxfords otherwise |
| 20:15.58 | eppigy | I only wear casual attire on the weekend sometimes |
| 20:16.01 | therealcircut | kinda all over the spectrum arent ya |
| 20:16.11 | eppigy | thatr is me |
| 20:16.16 | eppigy | from one extreme to the other |
| 20:16.37 | therealcircut | i suppose you dual boot gentoo and vista on the same machine ayeee?? |
| 20:17.15 | *** join/#asterisk phunyguy_work (n=phunyguy@159.178.100.227) |
| 20:17.35 | phunyguy_work | is this the user support channel? |
| 20:17.41 | therealcircut | negative |
| 20:17.49 | therealcircut | this is the user abuse center |
| 20:17.55 | phunyguy_work | rAwr! |
| 20:18.01 | phunyguy_work | my kind of humor! |
| 20:18.06 | phunyguy_work | abuse away. |
| 20:18.16 | therealcircut | gets the unix manual |
| 20:18.29 | therealcircut | nah what u got phunyguy_work |
| 20:18.51 | phunyguy_work | i actually haven't started using it yet, so i don't much know what I am doing... but i was curious if there was a decent web-admin tool for it |
| 20:19.20 | *** join/#asterisk Get_The_Fish (n=IceChat7@173-14-4-113-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:19.22 | phunyguy_work | please dont throw a manpage at me! |
| 20:19.24 | phunyguy_work | ;) |
| 20:19.59 | *** join/#asterisk markfoodyburton (n=mark@LCaen-151-92-34-5.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:20.04 | therealcircut | asterisk? |
| 20:20.09 | therealcircut | well then thats good |
| 20:20.20 | *** join/#asterisk propellerhead (n=yogurt2u@host105.190-136-230.telecom.net.ar) |
| 20:20.22 | therealcircut | u are free from the bs the 'previous' guy implemented |
| 20:20.24 | phunyguy_work | yes asterisk |
| 20:20.26 | tzafrir_laptop | asterisk(8) is actually not up-to-date and won't be of use |
| 20:20.37 | phunyguy_work | lol |
| 20:20.50 | phunyguy_work | the previous guy, oh no... |
| 20:20.53 | phunyguy_work | what did he do.. |
| 20:21.05 | therealcircut | nothing terribly tragic |
| 20:21.11 | therealcircut | just alot of unreadable extensions.conf |
| 20:21.14 | therealcircut | was like 35 pages |
| 20:21.19 | therealcircut | WITHOUT the comments |
| 20:21.21 | phunyguy_work | oh, awesome |
| 20:21.37 | phunyguy_work | yeah i saw the /etc/asterisk/*.conf files on my side |
| 20:21.41 | phunyguy_work | then my eyes crossed |
| 20:21.46 | phunyguy_work | and i saw something shiny... |
| 20:21.50 | phunyguy_work | then i was lost. |
| 20:21.50 | *** join/#asterisk ruben23 (n=AGENT@122.55.48.242) |
| 20:22.07 | therealcircut | u prolly showed up in front of HAL |
| 20:22.19 | therealcircut | then touched the monolith |
| 20:22.28 | phunyguy_work | lawl. |
| 20:22.29 | Get_The_Fish | anyone here use polycom phones? I cant get rfc2833 to work with asterisk, but with an eyebeam softphone it works. I have all phones set to rfc2833, and they are using the same trunks |
| 20:22.35 | phunyguy_work | so... is there a decent web-based app? |
| 20:22.37 | ruben23 | hi anyone can help.....agents calling through SIP..cant here the other side or the client side |
| 20:22.41 | phunyguy_work | crappy coding doesnt matter right now |
| 20:22.55 | markfoodyburton | hi - sorry to butt in... asterisk rocks, it's the center of my home automation, - I want to hook up my door/intercom system to it, so when the door bell goes, I get a phone call... the intercome is a Bticino system - which has a 2 wire bus - looks SO like a POT it's unreal - anybody every heard of it? |
| 20:22.56 | therealcircut | phunyguy_work: if your a beginner i would almost recommend just going to voip-info.org |
| 20:23.05 | phunyguy_work | i went there... |
| 20:23.13 | phunyguy_work | very cryptic site |
| 20:23.13 | therealcircut | phunyguy_work: get an ebook called 'building telephony system with asterisk |
| 20:23.13 | phunyguy_work | lol |
| 20:23.21 | therealcircut | its a bit outdated, but its a great starting point |
| 20:23.24 | phunyguy_work | im not looking to make this a prfession |
| 20:23.28 | phunyguy_work | was just curious about it |
| 20:23.30 | therealcircut | ah |
| 20:23.35 | therealcircut | well get one of the livecd distros |
| 20:23.41 | phunyguy_work | dont have the hardware |
| 20:23.43 | phunyguy_work | :) |
| 20:23.50 | therealcircut | well shiiit man |
| 20:23.58 | phunyguy_work | i do however have a very severely overpowered server that could use another service. |
| 20:24.02 | markfoodyburton | phunyguy_work: I've learned bottom up - asterisk is EASY to set up - and - what you can do with it rocks!...worth at least a small learning curve pain :-) |
| 20:24.09 | jaytee | man shiiit |
| 20:24.15 | jaytee | file not found |
| 20:24.19 | phunyguy_work | err0r! |
| 20:24.20 | Shazaum | Why "CDR(dst)" is read-only? |
| 20:24.45 | therealcircut | phunyguy_work: you can try asterisk@home, trixbox, or some of the other ones in a vmware VM |
| 20:24.47 | phunyguy_work | i also grew tired of premade distros |
| 20:24.52 | therealcircut | or qemu or virtualbox or whatever |
| 20:24.58 | therealcircut | well then there you go |
| 20:24.59 | phunyguy_work | meh |
| 20:25.03 | therealcircut | do the install |
| 20:25.04 | ruben23 | SIP have one way audio problem |
| 20:25.11 | phunyguy_work | well i was just curious if there was a webadmin thats all |
| 20:25.17 | therealcircut | 80% of the configs you have in /etc/asterisk are not going to be needed on simple installs |
| 20:25.19 | mmlj4 | ruben23: NAT? |
| 20:25.27 | phunyguy_work | whats the main one? |
| 20:25.30 | therealcircut | phunyguy_work: FreePBX |
| 20:25.32 | ruben23 | mmlj4: r |
| 20:25.33 | phunyguy_work | i can handle 1 or 2 configs |
| 20:25.35 | ruben23 | yes |
| 20:25.37 | *** part/#asterisk markfoodyburton (n=mark@LCaen-151-92-34-5.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:25.44 | ruben23 | it behind NAT |
| 20:25.45 | Shazaum | tzafrir_laptop: yo |
| 20:25.53 | tzafrir_laptop | Shazaum, hi |
| 20:25.55 | *** join/#asterisk RypPn (i=TuMbL@rosscom.demon.co.uk) |
| 20:26.00 | mmlj4 | ruben23: check the wiki for solutions to SIP with NAT |
| 20:26.07 | phunyguy_work | thats the webadmin? |
| 20:26.09 | phunyguy_work | or one of them? |
| 20:26.20 | therealcircut | its the one these guys wanted to use |
| 20:26.23 | therealcircut | that i talked them out of |
| 20:26.33 | therealcircut | only problem with it is that it wants TOTAL control of your asterisk system |
| 20:26.34 | Shazaum | tzafrir_laptop: u know me, why "cdr(dst)" is read-only? |
| 20:26.45 | tzafrir_laptop | err.. no |
| 20:26.46 | therealcircut | so like for us, they only wanted SIP / DID provisioning frontends |
| 20:26.58 | therealcircut | so i had to talk them out of using the freepbx |
| 20:27.03 | therealcircut | but yea, its just a frontend |
| 20:27.08 | ruben23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.22 | phunyguy_work | oh i dont care about total control |
| 20:27.27 | phunyguy_work | im not using it for anything else. |
| 20:27.28 | ruben23 | the callers cant hear the client |
| 20:27.34 | phunyguy_work | so now am I one of "those" guys? |
| 20:27.35 | phunyguy_work | lol. |
| 20:27.54 | therealcircut | heheh |
| 20:27.54 | tzafrir_laptop | Shazaum, well, any reason it should be writable? |
| 20:28.01 | phunyguy_work | all i really want is the digital operator or whatever it is called. |
| 20:28.03 | therealcircut | if its what your looking for then go for it |
| 20:28.10 | phunyguy_work | to screen out some recording spam |
| 20:28.29 | phunyguy_work | and to give my family their own voicemailboxes |
| 20:28.29 | phunyguy_work | etc |
| 20:28.36 | phunyguy_work | nothing too complicated |
| 20:28.36 | therealcircut | hm |
| 20:28.59 | therealcircut | honestly dude, i would recommend you just spend a day trying to figure the flatfiles out |
| 20:29.09 | therealcircut | i bet you could accomplish it |
| 20:29.11 | phunyguy_work | but there are so many! |
| 20:29.12 | phunyguy_work | lol |
| 20:29.25 | therealcircut | the 3 you need would be: voicemail.conf, sip.conf, extensions.conf |
| 20:29.29 | phunyguy_work | i could start with asterisk.conf |
| 20:29.36 | Shazaum | tzafrir_laptop: to have exten dynamic |
| 20:29.44 | phunyguy_work | the other issue is i dont really know anything about VoIP in general. |
| 20:29.48 | therealcircut | phunyguy_work: what version of asterisk u gonna run? |
| 20:30.09 | jaytee | there are only a few you really need to deal with, extensions.conf, sip.conf, voicemail.conf and maybe chan_dahdi.conf and /etc/dahdi/system.conf if you use analog or digital hardware to connect to the PSTN. |
| 20:30.22 | phunyguy_work | 1.4 |
| 20:30.26 | therealcircut | jaytee: it doesnt sound like he has any hardware |
| 20:30.33 | phunyguy_work | PSTN? |
| 20:30.34 | phunyguy_work | lawl. |
| 20:30.39 | jaytee | yep, so just the other 3 files |
| 20:30.46 | phunyguy_work | it will tie to my analog line |
| 20:30.57 | phunyguy_work | just split off to extensions |
| 20:31.02 | therealcircut | so yea, MABEY the dahdi stuff then |
| 20:31.02 | jaytee | PSTN, Public Switched Telephone Network |
| 20:31.14 | phunyguy_work | yeah |
| 20:31.15 | phunyguy_work | ok |
| 20:31.17 | phunyguy_work | you guys rule |
| 20:31.22 | jaytee | if you go analog then using a VM is pretty much out |
| 20:31.31 | phunyguy_work | first IRC channel i have ever been to where i didnt get the book thrown at me |
| 20:31.38 | phunyguy_work | exactly jaytee |
| 20:31.40 | therealcircut | throws a book |
| 20:31.42 | phunyguy_work | and i thought of that |
| 20:31.46 | phunyguy_work | ducks |
| 20:32.20 | Qwell | ~book |
| 20:32.21 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 20:32.34 | phunyguy_work | oh thanks infobot! |
| 20:32.34 | jaytee | and you can get a gui enabled * install with FreePBX or Asterisk-gui by using AsteriskNow 1.5 but that isn't supported here and using any of the web gui enabled spinoffs of * tend to lock you in and restrict what you can and can't accomplish with *. |
| 20:32.36 | therealcircut | hits demonoid |
| 20:32.36 | Qwell | throws The Book at phunyguy_work |
| 20:33.03 | phunyguy_work | mmm demonoid |
| 20:33.14 | jaytee | yeah, definitely read the book and focus especially hard on Chapter 5 and 6 which cover the dialplan you implement in extensions.conf |
| 20:33.52 | phunyguy_work | ugh my internet has been suckin hardcore too |
| 20:33.56 | phunyguy_work | just for web browsing |
| 20:33.59 | phunyguy_work | anything else is speedy |
| 20:34.08 | jaytee | firefox? |
| 20:34.12 | phunyguy_work | web pages only come up half the time |
| 20:34.15 | phunyguy_work | yes firefox |
| 20:34.19 | phunyguy_work | but thats not the issue |
| 20:34.21 | phunyguy_work | its my router |
| 20:34.25 | jaytee | turn of IP6 in about:config |
| 20:34.25 | phunyguy_work | (another linux box) |
| 20:35.00 | *** join/#asterisk op3r (n=op3r@ded-139-197.eglobalreach.net) |
| 20:35.03 | phunyguy_work | is that the issue? it was never an issue before |
| 20:35.14 | phunyguy_work | happened when i built the new box |
| 20:35.20 | phunyguy_work | router box that is |
| 20:35.31 | op3r | hello can anyone point me to the direction why this happened? Non-codec capabilities: us - 0x1 (telephone-event), peer - 0x1 (telephone-event), combined - 0x1 (telephone-event) |
| 20:35.31 | op3r | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 20:35.38 | jaytee | ah, then maybe you want to disable IPv6 at the network level on the router box |
| 20:35.40 | *** join/#asterisk defsdoor (n=andy@defsdoor.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 20:35.48 | phunyguy_work | i never enabled it... |
| 20:35.51 | phunyguy_work | hmm |
| 20:35.57 | phunyguy_work | maybe it did it on its own |
| 20:36.18 | jaytee | I think it enables by default. At least it does in RHEL and UbuNUT |
| 20:36.28 | phunyguy_work | yeah i use ubu |
| 20:36.43 | jaytee | I use both RHEL 5 for * and Ubuntu for desktop |
| 20:36.45 | phunyguy_work | first i thought it was my dsl connection MTU size |
| 20:37.01 | phunyguy_work | wich messes with PCs behind the NAT |
| 20:37.11 | phunyguy_work | i also have squid running on that box |
| 20:37.17 | phunyguy_work | and if i proxy from it, it works great |
| 20:37.26 | phunyguy_work | but natting through it... not so good. |
| 20:37.49 | jaytee | squid? just squid? why not Snort? heck, throw Nagios on there while your at it! |
| 20:37.58 | phunyguy_work | havent made it that far. |
| 20:38.06 | phunyguy_work | i was using Endian |
| 20:38.12 | therealcircut | woot |
| 20:38.13 | phunyguy_work | (another turnkey linux distro) |
| 20:38.15 | therealcircut | things look to be working |
| 20:38.31 | phunyguy_work | but i grew tired of the restrictions with any distro like that |
| 20:39.13 | phunyguy_work | i hear you need a special type of modem to use with asterisk..? |
| 20:40.08 | Qwell | phunyguy_work: telephony hardware. not a mdoem |
| 20:40.10 | Qwell | modem* |
| 20:40.15 | phunyguy_work | ahh |
| 20:40.18 | phunyguy_work | see? |
| 20:40.24 | phunyguy_work | im pretty new to this stuff |
| 20:40.36 | phunyguy_work | fairly cheap? |
| 20:40.38 | Qwell | see the aforementioned book :D |
| 20:40.43 | Qwell | and remember |
| 20:40.44 | Qwell | ~cheap |
| 20:40.45 | infobot | rumour has it, cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 20:41.04 | phunyguy_work | its for 3 extensions. |
| 20:41.06 | phunyguy_work | lol |
| 20:41.09 | phunyguy_work | if that |
| 20:41.16 | jaytee | phunyguy_work, buy from Digium, it'll keep Qwell employed a few more weeks :-) |
| 20:41.37 | phunyguy_work | rofl. |
| 20:41.38 | phunyguy_work | nice |
| 20:41.48 | jaytee | plus their hardware doesn't suck |
| 20:42.00 | phunyguy_work | i like your infobot |
| 20:42.07 | phunyguy_work | ~poo |
| 20:42.08 | infobot | poo is smelly |
| 20:42.11 | phunyguy_work | LOL! |
| 20:42.39 | jaytee | but stay away from X100 cards on Ebay unless you're into masochism |
| 20:43.28 | phunyguy_work | ok. |
| 20:43.35 | phunyguy_work | (that was the first place i looked) |
| 20:43.38 | phunyguy_work | typed in asterisk |
| 20:43.45 | phunyguy_work | came up with $3 cards from china |
| 20:44.08 | jaytee | yep, and they're almost as much fun as being sodomized by a chain saw |
| 20:44.43 | phunyguy_work | ok. |
| 20:44.43 | jaytee | "Beat me!!!! Whip me!!!! Make me buy Openvox!!!!" |
| 20:44.54 | phunyguy_work | so how much can i expect to spend? |
| 20:45.03 | jaytee | how much ya got? |
| 20:45.06 | phunyguy_work | if its too much im outta here. |
| 20:45.07 | phunyguy_work | :P |
| 20:45.17 | phunyguy_work | it is irellevant how much i got |
| 20:45.18 | jaytee | you said 3 lines? |
| 20:45.22 | phunyguy_work | not lines |
| 20:45.24 | phunyguy_work | well |
| 20:45.25 | phunyguy_work | internal |
| 20:45.28 | phunyguy_work | 1 line going out |
| 20:45.38 | phunyguy_work | one phone number with 3 extensions |
| 20:45.39 | Qwell | describe exactly what you need |
| 20:45.43 | bkruse | tdm400pee |
| 20:45.44 | jaytee | so 3 analog phones internally and 1 analog line to the phone company? |
| 20:45.47 | Qwell | 3 phones, 1 line form the telco? |
| 20:45.55 | Qwell | from* |
| 20:45.56 | phunyguy_work | 3 digital internally - prolly softphones |
| 20:46.06 | phunyguy_work | 1 analog out |
| 20:46.12 | Qwell | then just a single fxo module on a tdm410 will do |
| 20:46.23 | phunyguy_work | the quesiton remains |
| 20:46.24 | phunyguy_work | how much |
| 20:46.25 | phunyguy_work | lol |
| 20:46.27 | jaytee | yep, the tdm400p with 1 FXO module and 3 FXS modules or 1 FXO module and no FXS modules if you use softphones |
| 20:46.43 | bkruse | phunyguy_work: Well, if you do what Qwell is suggesting, you give yourself a little room to grow, which is wise. |
| 20:47.12 | phunyguy_work | man i dont even know if i am really going to keep this permanent |
| 20:47.15 | phunyguy_work | am i in over my head? |
| 20:47.19 | phunyguy_work | lol... |
| 20:47.32 | bkruse | phunyguy_work: from google: http://www.b2llc.com/digium-tdm410p |
| 20:47.38 | phunyguy_work | passes out |
| 20:47.49 | phunyguy_work | lmgtfy! |
| 20:47.56 | phunyguy_work | thanks for the google assist |
| 20:48.06 | bkruse | Note that is without fxs/fxo/echo can |
| 20:48.09 | phunyguy_work | oh comon - $175? |
| 20:48.12 | bkruse | which you are going to need an fxo and echo can |
| 20:48.19 | bkruse | so that is the start of pricing |
| 20:48.25 | phunyguy_work | :-/ |
| 20:48.33 | bkruse | however, go priceout another turnkey system that will do softphones, you will......love Asterisk |
| 20:48.44 | phunyguy_work | i do love asterisk |
| 20:48.58 | phunyguy_work | but i love linux projects because of the lack of COST. |
| 20:49.00 | phunyguy_work | lawl. |
| 20:49.22 | Qwell | phunyguy_work: Apache doesn't have to connect to hardware :p |
| 20:49.43 | phunyguy_work | why do i need 4 Rj11 jacks again? |
| 20:50.00 | bkruse | you need one, to connect to your telco |
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| 20:50.23 | phunyguy_work | that leaves 3... |
| 20:50.33 | phunyguy_work | 3 analog phones? |
| 20:50.33 | Qwell | phunyguy_work: it's modular |
| 20:50.33 | bkruse | To expand ... |
| 20:50.37 | phunyguy_work | oh. |
| 20:50.43 | bkruse | those 3 aren't doing anything, because you aren't buying 4 modules, only 1 |
| 20:50.45 | bkruse | 4 - 1 = 3 |
| 20:50.48 | bkruse | :) |
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| 20:50.52 | phunyguy_work | understood |
| 20:50.57 | bkruse | Another route is to just settle with a voip provider, it's cheap, and you don't need this hardware. If you are afraid to spend $175 to start + cost of modules/echo can, do that. |
| 20:51.07 | jaytee | phunyguy_work, this will give you one FXO for the phone line and 1 FXS for an analog phone for 74 bucks http://www.voipsupply.com/linksys-spa3102-na |
| 20:51.20 | phunyguy_work | so $250 total. |
| 20:51.23 | phunyguy_work | to get moving. |
| 20:51.24 | jaytee | but it needs it's own network connection and isn't much fun to configure |
| 20:51.36 | phunyguy_work | i have network connections on this stupid server |
| 20:51.36 | bkruse | Qwell: Oh no he didn't! |
| 20:51.49 | phunyguy_work | 2 GigE, and 1 10/100 |
| 20:51.59 | phunyguy_work | its a Dell Poweredge 1750 |
| 20:52.04 | phunyguy_work | 1U |
| 20:52.11 | phunyguy_work | but it has 2 PCI slots |
| 20:52.19 | phunyguy_work | (surprisingly enough) |
| 20:52.29 | phunyguy_work | i gotta jet |
| 20:52.31 | phunyguy_work | time to clock out |
| 20:52.38 | phunyguy_work | ill see you guys when i get home. |
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| 20:55.51 | bkruse | Qwell: You seen unixdwg around? |
| 20:56.02 | Qwell | I think he died or something |
| 20:56.09 | bkruse | LOL |
| 20:56.51 | jaytee | if Digium made a PCI card with 1 FXO port and 1 FXS port on it I'd pay a hundred for the card over an SPA3102 just for the lack of aggravation in configuration. |
| 21:00.20 | spck | lol |
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| 21:12.45 | Katty | moooooooooooooo |
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| 21:15.55 | stope | cow |
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| 21:17.17 | Toyotaguy23 | whats up #asterisk? |
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| 21:19.07 | Toyotaguy23 | I'm planning to install an asterisk system on a budget, and would like to know if (in your opinion) if I am cutting too many corners here |
| 21:19.17 | therealcircut | no |
| 21:20.43 | Toyotaguy23 | my computer has a linux host OS, with Windows XP in a virutal machine. I plan to install an asterisk onto the win xp (pro) guest OS, then use a VoIP to analog adapter and a few cordless phones we have around the house. |
| 21:21.25 | Katty | heh |
| 21:21.25 | spck | any particular reason to install it under xp? |
| 21:21.32 | Toyotaguy23 | i have a 7.0 Mb/s internet connection |
| 21:21.32 | spck | masochism? |
| 21:21.38 | KavanS | Toyotaguy23, do you have a girlfriend? (if you do....stop now.) |
| 21:21.44 | Toyotaguy23 | GUI manily |
| 21:21.49 | ariel_ | wow slow down a system with windows xp. |
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| 21:21.59 | spck | any particular reason to install it under xp? |
| 21:22.08 | Toyotaguy23 | spck, so i have a GUI |
| 21:22.11 | ariel_ | gui manily.... wow |
| 21:22.12 | KavanS | I thought you couldn't legally say "Windows" without the word "slow" in front or behind |
| 21:22.19 | Toyotaguy23 | im a linux newbie |
| 21:22.22 | ariel_ | Toyotaguy23: no asterisk does not use windows |
| 21:22.39 | spck | if you really need a gui, try ubuntu |
| 21:22.46 | Toyotaguy23 | i use ubuntu as the host |
| 21:22.55 | spck | server or desktop? |
| 21:22.59 | Toyotaguy23 | well, a derivative called gOS |
| 21:23.07 | Toyotaguy23 | but, it's mainly hardy 8.04 lts |
| 21:23.16 | spck | so are you wanting the windows gui or the asterisk gui? |
| 21:23.33 | Toyotaguy23 | i thought there was no gui with ubuntu + asterisk |
| 21:23.34 | docid | umm, ok, got a funny one here.... i set up a did that hits one asterisk box, it passes to another asterisk box via iax and through to a2billing extention on the second box, and did works, but now for some reason the first box keeps dialing the second one over and over and over and i cant stop it, even restarted it and its still doing it |
| 21:23.41 | spck | that's asteriskNOW |
| 21:23.55 | docid | ubuntuserver has no gui |
| 21:23.56 | spck | you can setup a plain old desktop ubuntu system and put asterisk on it |
| 21:24.25 | Toyotaguy23 | whoa, so i can have an asterisk program on ubuntu with a gui? |
| 21:24.32 | spck | um, yes |
| 21:24.34 | KyleK | docid: apt-get install kde-desktop? ;) |
| 21:24.38 | docid | is there somewhere i can look to find qeues or something simular? |
| 21:24.43 | docid | lol |
| 21:24.45 | Toyotaguy23 | what was drmessano thinking the other day? |
| 21:24.50 | Toyotaguy23 | lol |
| 21:24.55 | docid | yeah, kause thats just what ya need, bog the cpu and mem of your pbx |
| 21:25.03 | KyleK | he's a best practicese kind of guy |
| 21:25.10 | spck | it's not adviseable |
| 21:25.18 | spck | i started with desktop when i was messing around |
| 21:25.20 | Toyotaguy23 | why is it not advisable? |
| 21:25.27 | spck | but the actual install i've been using the server version |
| 21:25.37 | spck | x11 takes up a ton of cpu to give you those pretty graphics |
| 21:25.41 | KyleK | Toyotaguy23: dont want people watching youtube videos on the pbx |
| 21:25.50 | spck | lol |
| 21:25.50 | KyleK | spck: you could have just disabled gdm btw |
| 21:26.13 | spck | i've been working on documentation for a complete reinstall |
| 21:26.24 | KyleK | oh good so its not a waste of time |
| 21:26.33 | spck | no not at all |
| 21:26.38 | spck | i hope to post it when i'm done |
| 21:26.38 | Toyotaguy23 | i have a pal who does pbx for a living and he suggests PIAF. I have learned debian / ubuntu / gOS over the last few months and REALLY dont have the time to format and learn another distro... |
| 21:26.53 | KyleK | whats PIAF? sounds close ti DIAF |
| 21:27.00 | Toyotaguy23 | pbx in a flash |
| 21:27.02 | docid | so anybody have a clue why my asterisk box would be chain dialing another asterisk box when there doesnt seem to be an external trigger? |
| 21:27.03 | spck | or PMIA |
| 21:27.08 | KyleK | oic |
| 21:27.14 | KyleK | Piss in a fire is what i was thinking |
| 21:27.28 | thehar | haha |
| 21:27.57 | Toyotaguy23 | ok so a hardware question.... is an adapter + analog cordless phone a $#^tty way to do things? |
| 21:28.12 | KyleK | for what specifically |
| 21:28.12 | Toyotaguy23 | i mean, is that acceptable? or ghetto? |
| 21:28.18 | Katty | Toyotaguy23: ghetto |
| 21:28.21 | Katty | Toyotaguy23: totally, ghetto |
| 21:28.21 | KyleK | I have a cordless phone on my ATA |
| 21:28.31 | Katty | KyleK: you're also ghetto. |
| 21:28.31 | Toyotaguy23 | just home phone is all i want |
| 21:28.55 | KyleK | if it works keep it |
| 21:29.06 | Toyotaguy23 | so if you want reliable quality home phone service through pbx you ABSOLUTELY NEED an IP phone |
| 21:29.08 | Toyotaguy23 | ? |
| 21:29.12 | docid | ata is the way to go, unhook your outside phone companny wireing, plug it into your house jack and ya can use the preexisting wireing |
| 21:29.33 | Toyotaguy23 | docid, so i'll have phone in every jack of the house? |
| 21:29.35 | spck | not really |
| 21:29.42 | docid | Ideally, yeah |
| 21:29.47 | docid | doesnt always work |
| 21:29.50 | KyleK | well |
| 21:30.05 | spck | what docid said |
| 21:30.13 | Toyotaguy23 | docid, where can i read more about this type of setup? |
| 21:30.22 | KyleK | erm |
| 21:30.27 | spck | search fxo/fxs and asterisk |
| 21:30.28 | docid | hrmmz |
| 21:30.41 | spck | i was looking at doing a home setup like that |
| 21:30.43 | KyleK | Toyotaguy23: I dont think anyone has documented that specific setup |
| 21:30.59 | KyleK | so if you do it docs plz, we'll tell you what to throw in/how to do it |
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| 21:31.13 | docid | well, if ya plug the fxs of the ata into a standard house jack, it will activate the other jacks in your house, but if the phone companny wireing sends signal back to ya it can damage your ata |
| 21:31.29 | spck | if you want to be able to call seperate extentions in the house you are going to need IP phones though |
| 21:31.41 | Toyotaguy23 | spck, that can come later |
| 21:31.43 | docid | yes, or multiple atas and network wirreing |
| 21:32.21 | Toyotaguy23 | i bought a magic jack (which sucked horribly) and my wife won't let me spend $150 +/- on new hardware |
| 21:32.23 | spck | my plan was a combination asterisk+mythtv box |
| 21:32.33 | docid | what was wrong with magicjack? |
| 21:32.37 | docid | ive been curious |
| 21:32.38 | Toyotaguy23 | 's wife lost her faith in me |
| 21:32.48 | KyleK | bad grammmar |
| 21:32.56 | KyleK | 's wife lost faith in him |
| 21:32.57 | Toyotaguy23 | docid, the SOFTWARE |
| 21:32.59 | spck | just say "hold my beer, watch this" |
| 21:33.00 | docid | faith is overrated.... |
| 21:33.06 | spck | i always consider that faith inspiring |
| 21:33.15 | Toyotaguy23 | i spent more time trying to fix it than use it |
| 21:33.27 | Toyotaguy23 | installed on two separate computers too |
| 21:33.28 | KyleK | so it doesn't like your windows box? |
| 21:33.40 | Toyotaguy23 | the process would just crash overnight |
| 21:33.46 | docid | ahhh, ya know it is POSSIBLE (not easy) to rip your sip credentials from the magicjack and use it as a standard voip trunk |
| 21:33.52 | Toyotaguy23 | two separate boxes |
| 21:34.01 | spck | so i think i have opensips setup to load balance, can anything think of a way to test it w/o having a PRI line available? |
| 21:34.38 | spck | er anyone* |
| 21:35.00 | Toyotaguy23 | what is the least expensive way to save my marriage? |
| 21:35.01 | Toyotaguy23 | lol |
| 21:35.16 | spck | sticky notes |
| 21:35.18 | KyleK | what are you load balancing spck? |
| 21:35.21 | Toyotaguy23 | what is the least expensive way to setup a reliable pbx for a beginner. |
| 21:35.24 | Toyotaguy23 | ? |
| 21:35.25 | spck | two asterisk servers |
| 21:35.37 | KyleK | throw lots of calls at it from somewhere? |
| 21:35.39 | spck | toyota: use junk you have lieing around |
| 21:35.51 | Toyotaguy23 | spck, like my analog cordless phones? |
| 21:36.09 | spck | not sure if that is going to give you what you want |
| 21:36.21 | KyleK | well this is how i see it |
| 21:36.26 | Toyotaguy23 | i can't have something time consuming, or choppy results |
| 21:36.33 | KyleK | requirements: cordless phone to call people long distance |
| 21:36.36 | KyleK | and thats it right? |
| 21:36.57 | Toyotaguy23 | KyleK, yes and local too of course |
| 21:37.00 | docid | vonage? |
| 21:37.07 | KyleK | old computer + some fxs hardware? |
| 21:37.08 | Toyotaguy23 | 30 bux... |
| 21:37.21 | docid | and then learn to use asterisk and switch when ya got a handle on it |
| 21:38.02 | Toyotaguy23 | ok |
| 21:38.07 | Toyotaguy23 | fakhir? i know him |
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| 21:38.25 | KyleK | Toyotaguy23: try running the magicjack software in wine? |
| 21:38.44 | Toyotaguy23 | magic jack = total suckage |
| 21:38.46 | Toyotaguy23 | unreliable |
| 21:39.10 | vooduhal | Hello all. I was wondering if anyone could help me narrow down the problem with the gtalk app I'm having. I'm seeing the invites come in but the call is never answered and never even hits my dial plan. |
| 21:39.35 | Toyotaguy23 | you'll be at home, and your cell phone buzzes saying you have a voicemail from MJ. "Funny it didn't ring..." Go upstairs and the MJ is crashed |
| 21:39.41 | Toyotaguy23 | EVERY TIME |
| 21:39.47 | KyleK | hahaha |
| 21:40.33 | Toyotaguy23 | well, how about ubuntu + asterisk + IP phone? |
| 21:40.56 | vooduhal | Has anyone here used the gtalk app at all? |
| 21:40.57 | Toyotaguy23 | and an sip provider (like voicepulse) |
| 21:41.05 | KyleK | that'd work |
| 21:41.19 | Toyotaguy23 | but no way for cordless |
| 21:41.26 | spck | vooduhal: sounds like a context issue |
| 21:41.30 | Toyotaguy23 | not without big bucks |
| 21:42.01 | spck | and no i haven't |
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| 21:42.14 | KyleK | Toyotaguy23: so get an ATA? |
| 21:42.36 | KyleK | iphone with a sip client? |
| 21:43.37 | Toyotaguy23 | KyleK, excuse the newbieness i must look up what an ATA is |
| 21:43.50 | Toyotaguy23 | !ATA |
| 21:43.53 | KyleK | Toyotaguy23: I bought a SPA3102 and hooked it up to asterisk, but I haven't done many calls through the internet so i dont know how good it is |
| 21:43.56 | KyleK | ~ata |
| 21:43.57 | infobot | it has been said that ata is Analogue Terminal Adapter which provides an FXS and/or FXO and ethernet, see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/ATA |
| 21:45.06 | KyleK | huh FXS to dialup internet adaptor |
| 21:45.12 | Toyotaguy23 | will the fact that my analog phones are CORDLESS play any role in quality? |
| 21:45.39 | KyleK | if the cordless phone is shit, it'll still be shit when its hooked up to voip |
| 21:46.21 | Toyotaguy23 | it would be fine with local telephone company's service, I think it just sucked because of the MJ |
| 21:46.54 | KyleK | did you compare with a corded phone? |
| 21:47.00 | Toyotaguy23 | yes |
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| 21:47.05 | phunyguy | well hello there. |
| 21:47.14 | Toyotaguy23 | usually choppy call quality |
| 21:47.18 | Toyotaguy23 | and we have 7 MB/s |
| 21:47.55 | phunyguy | ~poo |
| 21:47.56 | infobot | poo is smelly |
| 21:49.44 | Toyotaguy23 | ok so ATA wired to the house.... = good quality? or not *AND* chance of working good or bad? |
| 21:50.13 | KyleK | depends on the house wiring and how many phones are hooked up to it |
| 21:50.27 | Toyotaguy23 | house wiring = OK |
| 21:50.33 | phunyguy | hmm |
| 21:50.36 | phunyguy | my wiring is brand new |
| 21:50.40 | phunyguy | brand new house actually |
| 21:51.37 | Toyotaguy23 | How can i get input (from the internet connection) to the OUTSIDE of the house to go into the ATA? |
| 21:51.38 | docid | if anybody cared about my previous problem, i fixed it, had a wildcard in the wrong place |
| 21:51.42 | drmessano | Toyotaguy23: You asked me the other day if Asterisk had a GUI.. I told you it did not.. That was not inaccurate |
| 21:52.44 | drmessano | There are GUIs for Asterisk , like FreePBX, Asterisk-GUI, etc.. but Asterisk is not a GUI application |
| 21:52.44 | Toyotaguy23 | drmessano, i understand completely now. Sorry if I offended |
| 21:52.44 | Toyotaguy23 | it wasn't an ''attack'' |
| 21:53.27 | Toyotaguy23 | is sorry |
| 21:54.53 | docid | i installed asterisknow 1.5 on a spare box, and i must say, im fairly impressed, it keeps the cpu low without sacrificing function, unlike elastix, i use pure asterisk for any production, but some of the other applications need some interface for the CSR's |
| 21:55.20 | drmessano | I didn't take it as an attack.. but you should be more precise with your questions and pay better attention to the answers.. Running Asterisk on a box with X does make it "asterisk with a GUI" except in some perverse alterverse.. and running FreePBX with Asterisk doesnt mean "Im not using asterisk, I am using FreePBX".. those are two of about 100 misnomers heard around here daily |
| 21:55.59 | docid | heheh, ...aye |
| 21:56.03 | Toyotaguy23 | drmessano, in your opinion, would ATA into the house wiring be an acceptable solution? |
| 21:56.14 | docid | even if ya got a front end running you can still edit all the files directly |
| 21:56.22 | rob0 | I took it as an attack. I was deeply offended. And so's your mother! |
| 21:56.24 | Toyotaguy23 | downloaded a book about Asterisk the other day... |
| 21:56.27 | docid | i ran that way for a couple of years |
| 21:56.33 | docid | worked well for me Toyotaguy23 |
| 21:56.38 | drmessano | Toyotaguy23: Acceptable for WHOM? It works.. it works well.. I do it here.. along with the IP phones I have in a few rooms.. |
| 21:56.47 | Toyotaguy23 | tries to learn things he doesnt know... not have people do things for him =) |
| 21:56.58 | drmessano | But some would not do it.. some don't want analog phones |
| 21:57.08 | Toyotaguy23 | So how do you get the input to the ATA? |
| 21:57.15 | docid | likes to use /me because he gets to refer to himself in the 3rd person |
| 21:57.19 | drmessano | Input? |
| 21:57.29 | drmessano | You mean to the phone wiring? |
| 21:57.31 | docid | ?? ethernet? |
| 21:57.35 | Toyotaguy23 | yes |
| 21:57.44 | docid | whoops, i confused the issue |
| 21:57.50 | drmessano | Find an empty jack.. and put an RJ11 jumper on it |
| 21:57.51 | phunyguy | hmmm |
| 21:57.57 | drmessano | make sure Ma Bell is disconnected |
| 21:58.13 | drmessano | You can "backfeed" the ATA into any jack |
| 21:58.14 | docid | yeah, ring voltage on a fxs port = smoke |
| 21:58.15 | phunyguy | i have cat5e cable for phone wiring |
| 21:58.20 | drmessano | All you're doing is making a circuit |
| 21:58.56 | drmessano | Hell, I have made a split Red/Green one end, Yellow/Black on the other end jumper to feed an ATA into line 2 when Bell was present |
| 21:58.58 | Toyotaguy23 | so i can run it from INSIDE th house? |
| 21:59.11 | drmessano | and all I had to do was rewire patch cords to make line2 work on some phones |
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| 21:59.21 | drmessano | YES |
| 21:59.41 | docid | Toyotaguy23, should work, there are many guids online, hrmm, havent looked in a couple of years though |
| 21:59.52 | drmessano | Theres not much you need to know |
| 21:59.58 | drmessano | Make sure ma bell is OFF the line |
| 21:59.59 | Toyotaguy23 | is annnoying #asterisk =( |
| 22:00.03 | drmessano | Put ATA near a jack |
| 22:00.09 | phunyguy | heh i did an hour ago |
| 22:00.10 | drmessano | Hook up a 10 cent patch cord |
| 22:00.26 | phunyguy | i am an hour old on this channel |
| 22:00.26 | drmessano | done |
| 22:00.34 | phunyguy | im very green with this stuff |
| 22:00.45 | drmessano | phunyguy: Maybe you should get that looked at |
| 22:00.50 | phunyguy | maybe ;) |
| 22:00.52 | docid | this looks pretty complete at first glance... Toyotaguy23 : http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/321781.html |
| 22:01.17 | phunyguy | i was rather shocked to find out i may actually have to spend some money to use Asterisk though. |
| 22:01.20 | phunyguy | that saddened me. |
| 22:01.24 | drmessano | LOL |
| 22:01.27 | docid | Toyotaguy23, , not annoying me, weve all had our first days in here, just some people forget that |
| 22:01.31 | drmessano | Thats a lot of words |
| 22:01.38 | drmessano | Unplug ma bell |
| 22:01.43 | drmessano | Plug your ATA in the jack |
| 22:01.45 | drmessano | Drink beer |
| 22:01.46 | drmessano | Done |
| 22:01.46 | phunyguy | lol @ Ma Bell |
| 22:01.57 | phunyguy | beastie boys |
| 22:02.02 | phunyguy | got the Ill Communication! |
| 22:02.08 | Toyotaguy23 | drmessano, what TYPE of beer specifically? |
| 22:02.13 | docid | drmessano got the right idea |
| 22:02.15 | Toyotaguy23 | drmessano, and CHUG? or SIP? |
| 22:02.18 | phunyguy | Guinness i hope |
| 22:02.29 | phunyguy | or a dark beer anyway |
| 22:02.36 | docid | Toyotaguy23, any micro will do, might i suggest big rock mcnallys strong ale? |
| 22:02.53 | drmessano | phunyguy: Funny story.. the guy that fixed the wiring at my parents house when I was 15 and my CB was bleeding into the wiring of my house and 3 of my neighbors.. he was a CB'er too, and his handle was "brass monkey" |
| 22:03.04 | phunyguy | lawl. |
| 22:03.11 | docid | that funky |
| 22:03.25 | phunyguy | <3 the BBoys |
| 22:03.33 | docid | ya heard the Richard Cheese cover of brass monkey? that track was ment to be lounge man |
| 22:03.40 | phunyguy | no....lol |
| 22:04.04 | docid | Richard Cheese and Lounge against the machine, great group |
| 22:04.14 | phunyguy | wat! lol @ that |
| 22:04.17 | phunyguy | have to look that up |
| 22:04.22 | phunyguy | to Waffles i go. |
| 22:04.51 | drmessano | Toyotaguy23: My place would make you cry.. I have two ATA's feeding into my phone lines.. One ATAs line 1 is my cordless extension tied to my desk phone, which is an IP phone, the other feeds my "home" line into green/red of the home wiring.. My wifes ATA feeds her desk phone, and the yellow/black pair for her "home" line.. |
| 22:05.32 | drmessano | So we have two ATAs, 3 IP phones, 3 cordless phones, and 1 analog phone |
| 22:05.52 | drmessano | All on 4 different extensions across 2 ring groups and 1 IVR for the incoming DID |
| 22:06.15 | phunyguy | Richard Cheese looks interesting |
| 22:06.18 | docid | hahaha, thats awesome doc |
| 22:06.21 | docid | he is, very |
| 22:06.40 | docid | makes AWESOME MoH |
| 22:06.57 | docid | dont think its quite legal, but hey |
| 22:07.57 | drmessano | docid: That requires proof of performance.. if you have no friends, and no one calls you, no proof |
| 22:08.27 | drmessano | You know what would make annoying, but kick ass MoH |
| 22:08.34 | drmessano | AUDIO BOOKS |
| 22:08.43 | drmessano | People would get put on hold .. "WTF?" |
| 22:08.49 | drmessano | "Is that ANIMAL FARM?" |
| 22:08.55 | phunyguy | LOL |
| 22:08.58 | phunyguy | nice |
| 22:09.42 | drmessano | Even better.. Audio books read with a pretentious british accent |
| 22:09.46 | docid | hahaha |
| 22:09.50 | docid | atlas shrugged |
| 22:09.52 | phunyguy | should record the annoying car alarm and use that as hold music |
| 22:10.01 | phunyguy | that would be hawt |
| 22:10.02 | docid | make um listen to the whole john galt speech before connecting |
| 22:10.03 | phunyguy | AHA! |
| 22:10.06 | phunyguy | noobie made a funny |
| 22:10.53 | docid | at least the political pollsters would have an idea what they were in for |
| 22:10.56 | drmessano | I prefer to captivate vs annoy.. I want people to listen to the MoH and realize 3 mins into it "OHMYGOD, what have I been listening to" |
| 22:11.07 | phunyguy | LOL |
| 22:11.16 | docid | ohh, so reading of "A modest proposal" |
| 22:11.24 | phunyguy | nerds. |
| 22:11.26 | drmessano | LOL |
| 22:11.34 | eppigy | TRABAJO |
| 22:12.00 | drmessano | app_flite reading the King James bible would rock too |
| 22:12.07 | drmessano | MR ROBOTO |
| 22:12.24 | phunyguy | you wanna captivate just put on some Tool. |
| 22:12.28 | phunyguy | <3 |
| 22:12.42 | phunyguy | Track 4 from 10,000 days |
| 22:12.45 | phunyguy | Wings Part 2 |
| 22:12.59 | phunyguy | ppl would stay on hold forever |
| 22:12.59 | Toyotaguy23 | ok im going to order an ATA to wire into the house. I'll use ONE cordless phone that is expandable. Is this a suitable ATA? http://www.voipsupply.com/grandstream-gs-286 |
| 22:13.08 | drmessano | God no |
| 22:13.12 | phunyguy | ok gotta run to the sto' |
| 22:13.14 | phunyguy | bbiab |
| 22:13.18 | drmessano | Linksys PAP2 or SPA-2102 |
| 22:13.29 | drmessano | Avoid Grandstream.. at all costs |
| 22:14.03 | drmessano | and avoid VoiP supply |
| 22:14.07 | drmessano | Overpriced as hell |
| 22:14.09 | Toyotaguy23 | shoots himself in the face |
| 22:14.12 | drmessano | ww.telephonydepot.com |
| 22:14.15 | Toyotaguy23 | *BANG* |
| 22:14.17 | drmessano | or www |
| 22:14.42 | drmessano | You bought one already? |
| 22:14.59 | Toyotaguy23 | i have decided what I'd like to do, I just need to order the part |
| 22:15.20 | drmessano | PAP2 or SPA-2102 |
| 22:15.30 | drmessano | Trust me, even the Linksys haters think they make the better ATAs |
| 22:15.34 | KyleK | ~grandstream |
| 22:15.35 | infobot | i heard grandstream is the Yugo of VoIP hardware. Run. Run away now.. Though therealcircut says that they're not that bad |
| 22:16.02 | drmessano | therealcircut sounds like an employee |
| 22:16.18 | KyleK | no |
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| 22:16.26 | KyleK | more like a corporate user |
| 22:16.28 | thehar | uuuugh grandstreams |
| 22:16.34 | thehar | just had a fun issue with them actually |
| 22:16.37 | KyleK | it works for me in my specific setup |
| 22:16.40 | docid | right up there with openvox |
| 22:16.42 | KyleK | so it should work for yoou |
| 22:17.02 | thehar | ht286 has been throwing a pickup and a ringing phone and not actually ringing the phone |
| 22:18.37 | drmessano | I've had no problems with Linksys ATAs.. and for the price, a 1 port FXS ATA is never worth it |
| 22:19.07 | docid | yeah, ive had great luck with linksys atas, no with any other linksys gear though |
| 22:19.26 | drmessano | Ive had no problems with SPA-941s and SPA-921s |
| 22:19.31 | drmessano | ~linksys |
| 22:19.32 | infobot | it has been said that linksys is a tool of satan |
| 22:19.32 | docid | the linksys PAP2-NA and SP-1001 are bot really easy to use |
| 22:19.36 | drmessano | lol |
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| 22:19.59 | docid | sorry, useing a junk keyboard, lots of issues |
| 22:21.03 | docid | stupid mac keyboards are the only spares around this office :/ |
| 22:21.32 | docid | i love the usb ports but the keys feel like typing on stale marshmellows |
| 22:21.51 | Toyotaguy23 | that pap2t-na looks nice |
| 22:22.14 | docid | they are super easy to use, and check out the spa-3001 i believe if ya need a fxo port |
| 22:22.15 | KyleK | whats the diff between PAP2T and SPA2102 |
| 22:22.26 | drmessano | SPA-3102 for the FXS |
| 22:22.28 | KyleK | spa3102 has FXS and FXO |
| 22:22.28 | drmessano | Err FXO |
| 22:22.35 | docid | hrmm, not sure offhand... |
| 22:22.50 | drmessano | PAP2T doesnt allow simulataneous G729 calls.. only has 1 license |
| 22:22.55 | drmessano | and no T.38 |
| 22:23.01 | docid | ahh |
| 22:23.02 | drmessano | Its also a ROUTER |
| 22:23.11 | docid | with QOS |
| 22:23.14 | docid | now i remember |
| 22:23.16 | drmessano | As is the SPA-3102 |
| 22:23.26 | KyleK | oh nose they added router functions |
| 22:23.41 | docid | dont have to use um |
| 22:23.49 | drmessano | SPA-3000 series has always been a router |
| 22:23.51 | KyleK | i know but someone didn't like that |
| 22:24.15 | KyleK | personally i think thats up there with "haw haw holographic storage is like analog again" |
| 22:24.38 | docid | omg, soo how in this dome |
| 22:24.41 | drmessano | All you have to is not use the inside interface |
| 22:24.44 | docid | how=hot |
| 22:24.47 | Toyotaguy23 | ~fxo |
| 22:24.48 | infobot | foreign exchange office - type of port you need to connect a POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line from your telco to a pbx http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=fxsvfxo |
| 22:25.02 | docid | it got above 0 outside and it always gets hot in here when that happens |
| 22:25.14 | docid | snowed this mornin |
| 22:25.15 | drmessano | docid: Antarctica? |
| 22:25.21 | Toyotaguy23 | will i need fxo? |
| 22:25.21 | docid | Arctic |
| 22:25.34 | docid | top of the world m8 |
| 22:25.41 | drmessano | Toyotaguy23: Only if you plan to connect to the telco |
| 22:26.04 | jcape | Toyotaguy23: ...with a regular phone line |
| 22:26.22 | docid | heh, we still stuck with RBS CAS R1 T1's here, its like the freekin iceage |
| 22:27.17 | Toyotaguy23 | i think i will attach my ata (pap2t-na) to my corless phone. It's expandable, and we have one extra handset downstairs |
| 22:27.31 | drmessano | Sounds like a plan |
| 22:27.33 | Toyotaguy23 | but will that require fxo? |
| 22:27.37 | drmessano | NO |
| 22:27.51 | drmessano | Only if you plan to connect to an ACTIVE, working PHONE LINE |
| 22:28.06 | Toyotaguy23 | thanks drmessano |
| 22:28.07 | drmessano | Like you want to connect your PHONE LINE from the TELEPHONE COMPANY to ASTERISL |
| 22:28.11 | drmessano | Asterisk too |
| 22:28.25 | Toyotaguy23 | FOREIGN exchange... |
| 22:28.27 | Toyotaguy23 | makes sense |
| 22:28.31 | docid | like from the tel companny, or if for some reason you has a fxs card in your asterisk box and wanted to run it into your ata for some obscure reason |
| 22:28.32 | drmessano | and I dont mean the inside wiring.. I mean RING RING, HELLO |
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| 22:29.01 | sjzzalx | I've configured things with asterisk gui. I've set people as agents, but when I call to log into a queue, the thingie doesn't accept my "agent number". I don't know what this is or means. How can it be solved? Thanks. |
| 22:29.09 | Superbartt | drmessano, the guy naming those ports is just an IDIOT |
| 22:29.16 | docid | or ya know, ya could run out of your magic jack into a fx0 port hahaha |
| 22:29.19 | drmessano | The interface you plug phones into that gives you dialtone and the interface you connect a phone LINE into to get dialtone TO your PBX are different |
| 22:29.24 | Superbartt | I needed to read the manual about 5 times before I got it :p |
| 22:29.51 | drmessano | Superbartt: FXO using FXS signalling and FXS using FXO signally is confusing?? NO WAY |
| 22:30.01 | drmessano | O.o |
| 22:30.05 | drmessano | Say it aint so |
| 22:30.27 | Superbartt | not? hmm, maybe my brain stopped functioning in that case |
| 22:30.28 | drmessano | Just remember FXO costs more in an ATA, and so does Ma Bell.. |
| 22:30.32 | drmessano | they go together |
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| 22:31.19 | drmessano | or associate the O with OLD and liken it to ma bell |
| 22:31.26 | drmessano | That works too |
| 22:31.28 | Superbartt | ghehe |
| 22:31.51 | Superbartt | I prefer the killing method |
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| 22:38.58 | eppigy | NO NECESSITO MR TRABAJO |
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| 22:42.29 | Foriskak__ | in the case of inbound failover provided via the carrier with a hunt group set up, is there any way to recover the original number dialed? |
| 22:42.51 | Foriskak__ | tpyically, a T1 hosts a large block of #'s, which then all get redirected to a single backup line during failover |
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| 23:08.36 | profXavier | just a general question about my Polycom (i guess VOIP phones in general...), would I want to set the server (boot server) to allow writing, so it can log, update .cfg files (if I manage the phone via the web client), etc... ? |
| 23:09.02 | docid | Foriskak__, usually thats stored in $EXTEN or $DNID |
| 23:09.32 | docid | Foriskak__, , but i dont know about during fallover |
| 23:11.03 | jaytee | profXavier, don't know if it's worth the effort to do that if you use the web client to manage the phones. I use FTP provisioning which gives you more control over features and flexibility for reconfiguring. I've got shell scripts and templates so I can setup a phone with one command line statement. |
| 23:11.56 | mmlj4 | profXavier: yes |
| 23:12.29 | therealcircut | fg |
| 23:13.46 | Foriskak__ | profXavier: I agree |
| 23:14.02 | Foriskak__ | profXavier: it really is not worth the effort to use the web interface |
| 23:14.39 | Foriskak__ | docid: hmm...let me see if I can try it out on an incoming call |
| 23:14.54 | Foriskak__ | docid: the RDNIS variable looks like what I want |
| 23:14.58 | mmlj4 | profXavier: you want http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk%40Home+Handbook+Wiki+Chapter+7#7224HowtouseProvisioningCentralBootServe |
| 23:17.30 | Foriskak__ | no idea if it will work as expected during inbound failover situation |
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| 23:18.50 | theodred | anyone new to asterisk here? |
| 23:20.12 | mmlj4 | theodred: looking for a victim to help? |
| 23:20.13 | docid | i have no clue how a call would reach its destination if it didnt transmit the dialed number somehow though |
| 23:21.05 | theodred | mmlj4: I am the victim :P. looking fer others who are learning, as i don't want to disturb more advanced folks. and yes, i am rtfm. helluva manual i might add. |
| 23:21.20 | theodred | mmlj4: and how are you? |
| 23:21.58 | docid | theodred, no worries about annoying us, TK doesnt seem to be about |
| 23:22.16 | theodred | who is Tk? |
| 23:22.31 | theodred | haha, that is my handle in alot of places |
| 23:22.37 | theodred | well |
| 23:22.38 | docid | if your a newbie you dont want to know, great wealth if good info |
| 23:22.52 | docid | but a bit rough at times, well deserved roughness, but yeah |
| 23:23.46 | Foriskak__ | anybody used RDNIS in inbound fialover situation when one goes from many #'s to just a few? |
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| 23:24.17 | theodred | haha |
| 23:24.19 | theodred | i agree |
| 23:25.23 | theodred | i have been reading Asterisk The future of telephony version 2.pdf |
| 23:25.26 | theodred | helluva book |
| 23:25.30 | theodred | i have been to voip.info |
| 23:25.32 | phunyguy | back |
| 23:25.36 | phunyguy | wifey is makin meatloaf |
| 23:25.38 | theodred | and i also still dont have a clue how to make a damn dial plan |
| 23:25.44 | theodred | not fully at least |
| 23:26.00 | leif[mobile] | Chapter 5 and 6 is your friend |
| 23:26.00 | theodred | have an asterisk installation as a test bed |
| 23:26.06 | leif[mobile] | :) |
| 23:26.08 | theodred | hej leif. thanks |
| 23:26.13 | phunyguy | wait, Mobile? |
| 23:26.17 | phunyguy | laptop or phone? |
| 23:26.20 | docid | yeah, its a good chunk of knowledge...but it wont make sense untill ya get it runnin |
| 23:26.21 | leif[mobile] | Phone |
| 23:26.24 | phunyguy | hawt. |
| 23:26.26 | phunyguy | type? |
| 23:26.29 | docid | makeing a dialplan from scratch can be tough |
| 23:26.37 | leif[mobile] | G/f is trying things on |
| 23:26.43 | *** join/#asterisk BugKhaM (n=BugKhaM@119.42.94.233) |
| 23:26.44 | theodred | oh yes |
| 23:26.48 | phunyguy | type of mobile phone? |
| 23:26.50 | theodred | i use debian lenny purely |
| 23:26.54 | theodred | and i dont want to use a damn gui |
| 23:26.55 | leif[mobile] | Just start real simple |
| 23:27.02 | leif[mobile] | Nokia e71 |
| 23:27.05 | phunyguy | ah |
| 23:27.09 | phunyguy | i got a crackberry |
| 23:27.15 | leif[mobile] | great phone |
| 23:27.17 | BugKhaM | anyone using ooh323 + asterisk 1.2.x? |
| 23:27.18 | phunyguy | courtesy of my place of employment |
| 23:27.20 | leif[mobile] | I hate BB |
| 23:27.20 | docid | ahhh, i like centos for my asterisk installs, lenny got wierd with wanpipe compiles and a few other things |
| 23:27.25 | phunyguy | its free for me |
| 23:27.29 | phunyguy | so I deal with it |
| 23:27.40 | leif[mobile] | yep, no one pays for their own BB |
| 23:27.42 | phunyguy | its a World Edition so it is ok |
| 23:27.54 | phunyguy | wonder if i can get IRC on it |
| 23:27.58 | leif[mobile] | Only people who have a BB are people who get it provided by work |
| 23:28.01 | BugKhaM | I am having a problem where asterisk restarts every time I receive an ooh323 call |
| 23:28.03 | phunyguy | yessir |
| 23:28.05 | phunyguy | or teenyboppers |
| 23:28.12 | leif[mobile] | Heh |
| 23:28.50 | leif[mobile] | Well i'm out! Peas out homeys :) |
| 23:30.17 | docid | although for my cacti/nagios/phpip servers lenny is great |
| 23:30.38 | phunyguy | i like ubuntu |
| 23:30.43 | phunyguy | why make it complicated |
| 23:30.58 | phunyguy | ubuntu server |
| 23:31.01 | theodred | ease of use has a cost |
| 23:31.09 | theodred | namely at the cost of understanding |
| 23:31.13 | phunyguy | true, but its not huge |
| 23:31.16 | phunyguy | uhhh |
| 23:31.17 | theodred | oh yes it is |
| 23:31.18 | docid | i run ubuntu at home on my desktop, mint on one of my laptops |
| 23:31.24 | phunyguy | ubuntu server is still command line |
| 23:31.28 | theodred | especially if people get complacent |
| 23:31.29 | mmlj4 | I bailed on everything else and moved to slack |
| 23:31.42 | phunyguy | slack |
| 23:31.42 | phunyguy | mmm |
| 23:31.48 | phunyguy | thats overkill |
| 23:32.12 | phunyguy | dont get me wrong, I started in the early redhat days |
| 23:32.12 | mmlj4 | been doing this for 10 years, finally got fed up with everything else |
| 23:32.23 | phunyguy | but Ubuntu has been trating me right |
| 23:32.26 | phunyguy | treating too |
| 23:32.41 | phunyguy | i use Xubuntu for desktop and Ubuntu server for everything else |
| 23:33.11 | mmlj4 | that ships with X? |
| 23:33.17 | phunyguy | XFCE |
| 23:33.34 | phunyguy | O-o |
| 23:33.37 | mmlj4 | then bah, it's not a server as far as I'm concerned |
| 23:33.44 | phunyguy | i just said i use it for desktop |
| 23:33.51 | phunyguy | and ubuntu server for everything else |
| 23:33.53 | mmlj4 | zi'm asking about the server |
| 23:33.56 | phunyguy | ubuntu server is no X |
| 23:33.59 | phunyguy | all cmd line |
| 23:34.01 | jaytee | my RHEL 5 came preinstalled with Gnome :-) |
| 23:34.04 | phunyguy | unless you apt-get it |
| 23:34.05 | theodred | i know |
| 23:34.08 | mmlj4 | ok, fair enough |
| 23:34.08 | theodred | i have seen people |
| 23:34.09 | docid | ack |
| 23:34.10 | theodred | who install |
| 23:34.12 | theodred | ubuntu |
| 23:34.14 | theodred | gdm and all |
| 23:34.24 | phunyguy | ugh |
| 23:34.25 | theodred | they then ran apache (tomcat) |
| 23:34.27 | theodred | as a module |
| 23:34.29 | phunyguy | yeah they have no clue how to use it |
| 23:34.31 | theodred | and then had php |
| 23:34.41 | theodred | running on top of it (module inside of tomcat, not installed) |
| 23:34.46 | theodred | and then call that a "server" |
| 23:34.48 | theodred | even worse |
| 23:34.49 | mmlj4 | theodred: the 4-word quota was lifted months ago |
| 23:34.50 | phunyguy | uh huh |
| 23:35.01 | jaytee | but since it's running on a Dell 2950 that has a quad xeon and 4GB of RAM it's no big deal. |
| 23:35.01 | theodred | mmlj4: 4 word quote? |
| 23:35.08 | theodred | oh haha. i understand |
| 23:35.10 | theodred | *quota |
| 23:35.22 | mmlj4 | let's see if you really do understand |
| 23:35.43 | theodred | haha. sorry. is a habit. well. there are those who err. use an ubuntu live cd, set a laptop |
| 23:36.07 | theodred | to autoboot it, and then they then magically hope that the windows partition is "gone" |
| 23:36.28 | theodred | and that the ubuntu is now "installed" (bios boots to livecd -> Ubuntu) |
| 23:36.32 | theodred | yes, quite a piece o'work |
| 23:36.39 | theodred | slow as al hell too. |
| 23:36.43 | theodred | now back to asterisk.. |
| 23:37.00 | theodred | so you are saying that creating a dialplan purely by hand is difficult, and more laborious? |
| 23:37.23 | phunyguy | buddy of mine installed ubuntu... |
| 23:37.31 | phunyguy | then goes... "now what do i do...?" |
| 23:37.33 | phunyguy | lol. |
| 23:37.43 | docid | ok, so anybody know of a way to whiddle down the packet packing overhead to actually get a gsm trunk below 30kbit per channel? |
| 23:37.48 | phunyguy | "I want linux because everyone is doing it" |
| 23:38.29 | phunyguy | "and I heard ubuntu was the easiest" |
| 23:38.33 | phunyguy | *sigh* |
| 23:38.51 | docid | i wenbt to ubuntu kause fedora 9 was makeing me rage |
| 23:38.56 | phunyguy | "WHY DOESNT THIS WORK. THIS SUCKS. IM GOING BACK TO WINDOWS" |
| 23:39.05 | docid | massively unstable on my hardware |
| 23:39.05 | phunyguy | "bye..." |
| 23:39.44 | docid | ubuntu has been pretty good, when i get some spare time im thinking arch |
| 23:40.10 | phunyguy | its like, "Yeah ubuntu doesn't work. I have 6 ubuntu boxen at home and 1 at work running just fine" |
| 23:40.55 | phunyguy | "so something tells me it's not Linux" |
| 23:41.00 | docid | but my debian and centos servers are freekin great |
| 23:41.06 | phunyguy | centos is nice |
| 23:41.16 | docid | aye, |
| 23:41.17 | phunyguy | tried debian |
| 23:41.20 | phunyguy | but its easy to break |
| 23:41.23 | phunyguy | and i dont need that ;) |
| 23:41.26 | jaytee | CentOS is just RHEL without the branding and support contract |
| 23:41.28 | docid | also fairly easy to fix |
| 23:41.34 | phunyguy | yes jaytee |
| 23:41.38 | phunyguy | we are aware ;) |
| 23:41.49 | rob0 | likes MentOS (in Diet Coke) |
| 23:42.07 | phunyguy | im not gonna disrupt the good thing I have going with ubuntu |
| 23:42.16 | phunyguy | rob0, you followin me? |
| 23:42.23 | rob0 | chasing |
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| 23:42.26 | phunyguy | lawl. |
| 23:42.28 | phunyguy | rtuns |
| 23:42.30 | phunyguy | runs too |
| 23:42.41 | docid | <playing dumber than usual> ohhh, i always wondered what 'well known OS' they were refering to in the install screens of centos....lol... |
| 23:42.41 | jaytee | now Fedora on the other hand is based on Red Hat codebase but has been heavily injected with more performance enhancing steroids than Manny Ramirez. |
| 23:42.47 | Foriskak__ | anyone ever tried using RDNIS in an inbound failover environment? |
| 23:42.59 | phunyguy | hahahaha jaytee |
| 23:42.59 | phunyguy | nice |
| 23:43.05 | phunyguy | (Red Sox fan here) |
| 23:43.05 | docid | F10 is rather nice |
| 23:43.10 | phunyguy | but he is another teams problem now |
| 23:43.13 | jaytee | Red Sox FTW!!!! |
| 23:43.13 | docid | im still a bit wary of 11 |
| 23:43.18 | phunyguy | location? |
| 23:43.21 | Foriskak__ | From many lines (with T1) -> to 1 line, one needs to know what number was originally dialed |
| 23:43.33 | jaytee | I'm from south of Boston about 30 miles but I live in Indy now |
| 23:43.37 | phunyguy | ahh |
| 23:43.46 | phunyguy | I was born and raised in springfield |
| 23:43.50 | jaytee | but I'll be a Sox fan till the day I take the long dirt nap |
| 23:43.52 | docid | and it doesnt come in with the info as at the head? it blows away the exten info? |
| 23:43.52 | phunyguy | moved all over the country with the navy |
| 23:43.57 | jaytee | Weymouth |
| 23:44.06 | phunyguy | why stop at the grave? |
| 23:44.12 | phunyguy | I'd be a spirit above fenway |
| 23:44.13 | jaytee | good point! |
| 23:44.17 | phunyguy | <3 |
| 23:44.25 | jaytee | I'll float over the Big Green Monster :-) |
| 23:44.33 | phunyguy | i planted myself here in Georgia though |
| 23:44.41 | phunyguy | hard to catch a game on TV now |
| 23:44.47 | phunyguy | unless they play the Rays |
| 23:45.09 | phunyguy | or the braves |
| 23:45.13 | phunyguy | ..or somethings |
| 23:45.33 | jaytee | I went to a Celtics game when I was home visiting a year ago but it wasn't the same at the Fleet Center as it felt when I went to the old Boston Garden. |
| 23:45.51 | phunyguy | right right right |
| 23:46.04 | phunyguy | i have never been to an NBA game |
| 23:46.07 | phunyguy | been to Fenway once |
| 23:46.10 | Qwell | I'd like the Sox if they were any good |
| 23:46.10 | phunyguy | thats it |
| 23:46.14 | Qwell | runs |
| 23:46.17 | phunyguy | Qwell you arse ;) |
| 23:46.30 | phunyguy | hey what was the model of the PCI card you quoted me earlier? |
| 23:46.36 | Qwell | tdm410? |
| 23:46.38 | jaytee | the TDM410? |
| 23:46.41 | phunyguy | i didnt write it down then i went home |
| 23:46.43 | phunyguy | yeah thats it |
| 23:46.48 | jaytee | I have 3. Very good cards |
| 23:46.55 | Qwell | phunyguy: and don't worry - I'm a southern CA boy, so I'm stuck with liking the...Angels |
| 23:46.59 | phunyguy | well i think i just got myself into something over my head |
| 23:47.05 | phunyguy | but it could be a good thing |
| 23:47.06 | jaytee | don't use em much anymore. I use the TE212P cards for PRI now |
| 23:47.07 | Qwell | wtf are they called now? Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles, or some stupid crap? |
| 23:47.13 | phunyguy | HAHAHAHA |
| 23:47.39 | phunyguy | now Manny is YOUR responsibility (if you are a dodgers fan too) |
| 23:47.44 | Qwell | nope |
| 23:47.44 | docid | i like the Sangoma hardware.... use a few A102's and A104's |
| 23:47.46 | phunyguy | Dodgers are LA right? |
| 23:47.53 | Qwell | LA proper |
| 23:48.08 | Qwell | (not the fake Orange County Angels LA crap) |
| 23:48.12 | phunyguy | lol. |
| 23:48.25 | phunyguy | Manny is such a pain. |
| 23:48.28 | phunyguy | damn roid rage |
| 23:48.44 | phunyguy | he left the Red Sox and we got Jason Bay who hits just as many home runs as manny |
| 23:48.48 | jaytee | Sangoma makes good hardware but I'm pretty sure they don't contribute to Asterisk development so it's kind of a one-way street. They don't give anything back but make money off of *. |
| 23:48.50 | phunyguy | without the baggage |
| 23:48.51 | Qwell | oh, my mistake. Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim (even stupider) |
| 23:48.52 | denon | Qwell: bah, I've got an office in irvine area, you callin me a faker? |
| 23:49.02 | Qwell | denon: Do you say you live in LA? :p |
| 23:49.15 | denon | well, no, Im rarely at that office, I live in MN :) |
| 23:49.33 | Qwell | now, let's translate from Spanish |
| 23:49.37 | Qwell | The The Angels Angels of Anaheim |
| 23:49.42 | Qwell | WTF |
| 23:49.45 | phunyguy | lol Qwell |
| 23:49.45 | denon | but if people don't know where Irvine is, I do say "greater LA area" |
| 23:49.47 | phunyguy | very interesting |
| 23:49.49 | docid | jaytee, aye, but mostly im looking for the best performing hardware at resonable (relatively anyhow) prices, but i feel where your coming from |
| 23:50.02 | Qwell | phunyguy: so, I get to troll occasionally :D |
| 23:50.06 | phunyguy | hawt |
| 23:50.09 | phunyguy | so. |
| 23:50.12 | docid | have digium dealth entirely with their Interupt issues? |
| 23:50.12 | jaytee | I'm all in favor of California's medical marijuana laws. If I lived there and had to use the SoCal freeways during rush hour I'd want to be heavily medicated |
| 23:50.15 | phunyguy | i have to ask myself |
| 23:50.27 | phunyguy | is it worth it for me to buy the hardware.. |
| 23:50.37 | Qwell | docid: the new voicebus arch helps with that, a lot |
| 23:50.39 | phunyguy | I lived in SD for two years |
| 23:50.41 | phunyguy | hated it |
| 23:50.44 | jaytee | phunyguy, for just experimenting or for real world use? |
| 23:50.52 | phunyguy | well maybe real world use |
| 23:50.54 | phunyguy | thats the thing |
| 23:50.57 | phunyguy | i dont know yet |
| 23:51.00 | docid | helps? so its still an issue? |
| 23:51.17 | phunyguy | ugh - hated San Diego - too many mexicans |
| 23:51.25 | docid | argh, im bad about adressing my comments |
| 23:51.27 | phunyguy | hate having to go to McDonalds with a translator |
| 23:51.56 | Qwell | docid: I haven't heard of interrupts being an issue in a long time. |
| 23:52.03 | docid | makes croaking wheezing noises that sound a bit like 'Chicken Sandwitch' |
| 23:52.12 | phunyguy | lol |
| 23:52.16 | jaytee | phunyguy, well, you could buy one of the crap X100p clone cards on Ebay for a few bucks just to get your feet wet with using * with analog lines but they tend to lock up and need to have either zaptel/dahdi restarted or a full reboot when they get finicky. |
| 23:52.20 | phunyguy | "Numero dos por favor!!" |
| 23:52.32 | phunyguy | ugh |
| 23:52.39 | alrs | eat shit, phunyguy |
| 23:52.44 | phunyguy | whats the cheapest i could use that would get me going with minimal issues |
| 23:52.48 | phunyguy | alrs? |
| 23:52.50 | alrs | Hey |
| 23:52.53 | alrs | racist fuck |
| 23:52.58 | phunyguy | i wasnt being racist |
| 23:53.02 | phunyguy | i dont know spanish. |
| 23:53.13 | phunyguy | :| |
| 23:53.16 | phunyguy | learn english. |
| 23:53.18 | phunyguy | its america. |
| 23:53.20 | docid | isnt that how ya order a number 2 value meal in la? |
| 23:53.31 | docid | i meen, is he incorrect? |
| 23:53.38 | alrs | He is incorrect. |
| 23:53.39 | phunyguy | i said too many mexicans |
| 23:53.42 | phunyguy | and i hate san diego |
| 23:53.46 | phunyguy | never did i say i hate mexicans. |
| 23:53.46 | jaytee | I have over 200 SIP clients, mostly Polycom phones and some analog off of LInksys ATA's running on a Dell 2950 connecting to the PSTN via 2 T1 spans configured as PRI. No problem with interrupts on my TE212P cards. |
| 23:54.01 | jaytee | mexicans are good folk |
| 23:54.05 | docid | ok, so how does one order a number 2 value meal from somebody with VERY limited english and a good understanding of spanish? |
| 23:54.06 | phunyguy | they may be |
| 23:54.14 | jaytee | most of my neighbors are hispanic. |
| 23:54.16 | phunyguy | but it sucks when there is a communication barrier |
| 23:54.26 | phunyguy | and they refuse to learn english OR THE RULES OF THE ROAD. |
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| 23:54.46 | phunyguy | like driving 35mph on the highway at 3am in the passing lane WITH THEIR LIGHTS OFF. |
| 23:54.57 | docid | thats why vancouver BC is fun, everybody drives perfectly, they just follow the rules of the road of their country of origin? |
| 23:54.58 | phunyguy | i almost killed this one family because of that |
| 23:55.04 | spck | that's bad? |
| 23:55.07 | jaytee | I like that I can go to the local market and get Coca Cola imported from Mexico made with real cane sugar instead of the high fructose corn syrup crap the bottle or can in the states. |
| 23:55.18 | docid | ohh damn i love real coke |
| 23:55.23 | phunyguy | yesir |
| 23:55.26 | spck | jaytee: see passover coke |
| 23:55.33 | docid | i miss living in the southern US for that alone, the rest sucked |
| 23:55.37 | phunyguy | ok alrs... i didnt mean to piss anyone off. my bad. |
| 23:55.37 | jaytee | huh? passover coke? |
| 23:55.48 | docid | yeah, but very limited availability on that stuff spck |
| 23:55.55 | spck | ya, passover coke, comes around lent every year, |
| 23:55.59 | spck | it has a yellow cap |
| 23:56.03 | phunyguy | I'm not racist, but whatever |
| 23:56.05 | spck | it's kosher with real cane sugar |
| 23:56.06 | jaytee | hmmm, have to check it out thanks |
| 23:56.12 | docid | yeah, corn isnt kosher during passover or something |
| 23:56.19 | phunyguy | lol |
| 23:56.22 | phunyguy | stupid jews ;) |
| 23:56.24 | phunyguy | SEE? |
| 23:56.25 | bmoraca | Pepsi > Coke...so Pepsi Throwback > MexiCoke |
| 23:56.26 | phunyguy | jokes. |
| 23:56.26 | rob0 | I'm not racist at all. I hate everyone, equally. |
| 23:56.30 | jaytee | I love some kosher foods. Matzoh ball soup is great |
| 23:56.32 | docid | still not as good as mexi-coke in the 12oz glass bottles though |
| 23:56.40 | phunyguy | yeah jaytee |
| 23:57.02 | phunyguy | lots of kosher food is great |
| 23:57.06 | jaytee | yeah, mexi coke in 12 oz bottles chilled so the bottle frosts up when you take it out of the fridge |
| 23:57.06 | phunyguy | just abotu all of it actually |
| 23:57.10 | docid | as long as ya keep the gifiltifisk (sp?) far far away |
| 23:57.12 | phunyguy | just dont wanna deal with the old woman making it |
| 23:57.21 | phunyguy | aye. |
| 23:57.44 | docid | of course, my heritiage has something just as awefull, lute-fisk |
| 23:57.50 | phunyguy | ok bbiab |
| 23:58.50 | jaytee | I've heard of lute-fisk but don't know what it is |
| 23:59.17 | docid | fish rotted in lye and then rinsed off |
| 23:59.23 | jaytee | ewwwww |
| 23:59.27 | docid | hahaha |
| 23:59.29 | docid | yeah |
| 23:59.36 | docid | its a 'delicacy' |
| 23:59.42 | docid | lol |
| 23:59.43 | jaytee | so is kimchee to some people |
| 23:59.49 | docid | ohhh drool |
| 23:59.54 | docid | i LOVE kimchi |
| 23:59.55 | jaytee | hehehe |