IRC log for #asterisk on 20090611

`00:02.47`	`[jmc]`	`but the journey goes on`
`00:03.20`	`[jmc]`	`now what worked for chan_sip (before reinstalling the samples) doesn't work anymore`
`00:04.44`	`[jmc]`	`chan_sip.c:1787 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit of 0x9c70168 (len 516) to 212.97.59.76:5061 returned -2: Bad file descriptor`
`00:05.51`	`*** join/#asterisk cesar_CR (n=cesar@celord.ice.co.cr)`
`00:06.18`	`[jmc]`	`why would that suddenly stop working?`
`00:09.17`	`xfighter`	`~html softphones`
`00:10.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: HTML is for making WEB PAGES.`
`00:10.10`	`xfighter`	`I know`
`00:10.24`	`xfighter`	`I want one an html softphone`
`00:10.30`	`xfighter`	`javascript based one`
`00:10.36`	`Nugget`	`that's absurd.`
`00:11.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`...`
`00:11.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`telnet`
`00:11.05`	`Nugget`	`telnet is eeeeeeevil!`
`00:11.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:D`
`00:11.10`	`Nugget`	`heh`
`00:11.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`goes to push some more buttons :p`
`00:11.55`	`[jmc]`	`a javascript softphone?`
`00:11.56`	`[jmc]`	`wtf`
`00:12.02`	`xfighter`	`yes`
`00:12.05`	`xfighter`	`new idea?`
`00:12.08`	`xfighter`	`I have one :D`
`00:12.11`	`xfighter`	`am skinning it`
`00:12.18`	`[jmc]`	`how would you code that?`
`00:12.23`	`xfighter`	`hehehehe`
`00:12.26`	`xfighter`	`it's working`
`00:12.30`	`[jmc]`	`a Java/Flash/ActiveX one would work`
`00:12.43`	`xfighter`	`aha exactly`
`00:12.49`	`xfighter`	`OCX is needed`
`00:12.52`	`xfighter`	`but flash`
`00:12.55`	`[jmc]`	`ok, xfighter, once you're done give me a working copy :P`
`00:12.56`	`xfighter`	`not necessary`
`00:13.01`	`[jmc]`	`OCX?`
`00:13.06`	`[jmc]`	`ok`
`00:13.07`	`xfighter`	`nope`
`00:13.16`	`xfighter`	`it's totally free of any lables`
`00:13.39`	`xfighter`	`and to be honest I've just stole it`
`00:14.01`	`[jmc]`	`http://www.pernau.at/kd/voip/ActXPhone/`
`00:14.04`	`xfighter`	`tell me guyz`
`00:14.12`	`xfighter`	`which one do u like in these skins`
`00:14.13`	`xfighter`	`http://www.adoresoftphone.com/voip-softphone-skins.html`
`00:14.21`	`xfighter`	`I'll design one of these using adobe`
`00:14.23`	`*** join/#asterisk wwalker (n=wwalker@mailbox.eclipsing.com)`
`00:14.54`	`[jmc]`	`I like QuteCom`
`00:14.55`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`00:14.59`	`wwalker`	`anyone know of a tool for taking cdrs (csv or sql) and making a graph of x = time; y = concurrent calls ?`
`00:15.15`	`*** join/#asterisk jaytee (n=jforde05@unaffiliated/jaytee)`
`00:18.21`	`xfighter`	`jmc you might wanna take a look at speacast`
`00:18.25`	`xfighter`	`spearcast*`
`00:19.31`	`[jmc]`	`spearcast?`
`00:19.35`	`[jmc]`	`let me google that`
`00:20.37`	`[jmc]`	`I find a company from Israel, is that what you mean?`
`00:20.59`	`xfighter`	`http://www.spearcast.com`
`00:21.11`	`xfighter`	`if you bypass that you'll find treasures`
`00:21.43`	`xfighter`	`I found my way in :D`
`00:23.14`	`[jmc]`	`what, admin/admin? :P`
`00:23.25`	`xfighter`	`come on where's your skills`
`00:23.40`	`[jmc]`	`here is late at night`
`00:23.45`	`[jmc]`	`my skills are sleeping`
`00:23.49`	`[jmc]`	`and I should be too :-\|`
`00:23.51`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`00:24.09`	`xfighter`	`eineshtien started the nuclear bomb idea at 3:00 am`
`00:24.47`	`[jmc]`	`maybe`
`00:24.57`	`[jmc]`	`I'm not Einstein though :P`
`00:25.13`	`*** part/#asterisk wwalker (n=wwalker@mailbox.eclipsing.com)`
`00:25.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[jmc]: Trust me, neither is xfighter :p`
`00:25.30`	`[jmc]`	`lol`
`00:25.52`	`[jmc]`	`however`
`00:25.52`	`KavanS`	`ohh snap`
`00:25.53`	`xfighter`	`you talk about him as he's a god , am not sayin your genious in physics but you can be brilliant in other stuff`
`00:26.14`	`KavanS`	`I'm brilliant and dropping a deuce in the "loo" at 2 AM saturday morning`
`00:26.16`	`[jmc]`	`after some struggle I've got a working Asterisk, at least so it seems`
`00:26.33`	`xfighter`	`:D`
`00:26.40`	`xfighter`	`why do we have to struggle`
`00:26.42`	`xfighter`	`you know`
`00:26.44`	`xfighter`	`professor`
`00:26.48`	`[jmc]`	`but the voice I hear calling my number`
`00:26.55`	`xfighter`	`I think am gonna make a manual for the newbies`
`00:26.56`	`[jmc]`	`is chunky`
`00:27.01`	`xfighter`	`just to ease their pain`
`00:27.06`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: ping`
`00:27.16`	`xfighter`	`you guyz know a website called demonoid??`
`00:27.23`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, yeah, that's what I'm torturing Asterisk for`
`00:27.27`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: Just wanted to make sure you read the last few lines.`
`00:27.28`	`[jmc]`	`I have to write a little doc`
`00:27.45`	`[jmc]`	`Qwell, lol`
`00:28.07`	`[jmc]`	`hey, do I need ztdummy for timing even if use only SIP?`
`00:28.17`	`Qwell`	`Do you use meetme?`
`00:28.19`	`xfighter`	`professor says no`
`00:28.21`	`[jmc]`	`hmm no`
`00:28.25`	`Qwell`	`then not really`
`00:28.44`	`[jmc]`	`so why's that demo voice so bad? :D`
`00:28.53`	`[jmc]`	`hmm let me try though a softphone`
`00:29.33`	`xfighter`	`jmc , why're doin your server?`
`00:30.29`	`[jmc]`	`well I have been told to configure an IVR with Asterisk`
`00:30.41`	`[jmc]`	`a University-related job...`
`00:30.48`	`xfighter`	`:D`
`00:30.52`	`xfighter`	`seminar?`
`00:31.04`	`[jmc]`	`well, not really`
`00:31.24`	`[jmc]`	`I don't know how it's called in English`
`00:31.36`	`xfighter`	`where are u from?`
`00:31.38`	`[jmc]`	`but I do some activities, they pay me`
`00:31.38`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`00:31.40`	`[jmc]`	`Italy`
`00:31.59`	`xfighter`	`I can say only these words`
`00:32.03`	`*** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica)`
`00:32.10`	`xfighter`	`La Luna Del Cachatore`
`00:32.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell: Yeah, I'm speechless. I wish others were too :p`
`00:32.55`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, what's that?`
`00:33.10`	`xfighter`	`the hunters moon`
`00:33.30`	`xfighter`	`since it's late and it's night`
`00:33.34`	`[jmc]`	`yeah, but what it's supposed to be? :D`
`00:33.37`	`xfighter`	`we're hunting for information`
`00:33.39`	`[jmc]`	`aaah`
`00:33.44`	`[jmc]`	`I didn't get it`
`00:34.03`	`[jmc]`	`well, it's "cacciatore" actually`
`00:34.23`	`xfighter`	`I wanted others to read it well :D`
`00:34.30`	`[jmc]`	`:)`
`00:35.20`	`xfighter`	`though I want to revenge from italy`
`00:35.26`	`[jmc]`	`hmm, btw, do you know a - possibly free ("as in beer" is enough) - applet or web-based softphone?`
`00:35.38`	`[jmc]`	`revenge?`
`00:35.45`	`xfighter`	`yup`
`00:35.55`	`xfighter`	`I cheer for germany football team`
`00:36.04`	`xfighter`	`and I can't forget what happenned back in 2006`
`00:36.35`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`00:36.54`	`[jmc]`	`you're german?`
`00:37.00`	`xfighter`	`nope`
`00:37.10`	`xfighter`	`waaaay toooo faaaar`
`00:37.23`	`xfighter`	`but we all see the same sea :D`
`00:37.30`	`xfighter`	`[Palestine]`
`00:37.44`	`[jmc]`	`oh, I see ^^`
`00:38.20`	`[jmc]`	`is still searching for a good web-based softphone`
`00:38.39`	`[jmc]`	`would someone help me?`
`00:38.55`	`xfighter`	`tell me when u give up :D`
`00:39.05`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, I can't :D`
`00:39.22`	`[jmc]`	`as I was saying before, I have to try a litte few things like this one`
`00:40.22`	`[jmc]`	`they're trying to offer to us students a way of communicating with each other, or with professors, without the need to install a SIP client on the end user's machine`
`00:40.55`	`xfighter`	`you mean like an html softphone thinkg`
`00:40.58`	`[jmc]`	`that means it can't even be an ActiveX applet, or it'll work only on Windows/IE configurations`
`00:40.58`	`xfighter`	`thing*`
`00:41.08`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, no, a Java one would be perfect`
`00:41.22`	`[jmc]`	`Java is ubiquitous right now`
`00:41.24`	`xfighter`	`java gui?`
`00:41.28`	`[jmc]`	`so it would be a working solution`
`00:41.38`	`[jmc]`	`GUI and core, I don't care ^^`
`00:41.47`	`xfighter`	`I wanna create one for my seminar`
`00:41.49`	`[jmc]`	`a simple applet`
`00:42.08`	`xfighter`	`I need to study the code really`
`00:42.12`	`xfighter`	`I have no clue`
`00:42.41`	`[jmc]`	`:)`
`00:43.00`	`[jmc]`	`Java would be a better choice than JavaScript for your interests`
`00:43.14`	`xfighter`	`yea am workin on everything`
`00:43.29`	`xfighter`	`hardware java and javascript database`
`00:43.36`	`xfighter`	`using all my cards`
`00:43.40`	`xfighter`	`to be honest`
`00:43.50`	`xfighter`	`am fighting for a scholarship`
`00:44.06`	`*** join/#asterisk andresmujica (n=andresmu@ubuntu/member/andresmujica)`
`00:44.14`	`xfighter`	`professor if you are there`
`00:44.21`	`xfighter`	`who's before who`
`00:44.27`	`xfighter`	`freepbx or asterisk?`
`00:44.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: huh?`
`00:44.55`	`[jmc]`	`isn't freepbx a web manager for *?`
`00:45.52`	`xfighter`	`so why do the creators of freepbx act as they are a standalone folks`
`00:46.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: As in?`
`00:47.34`	`xfighter`	`they have their own website`
`00:47.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`OH NO!`
`00:47.39`	`xfighter`	`for example`
`00:47.44`	`[jmc]`	`...and so xfighter discovered that [TK]D-Fender is a FreePBX developer`
`00:47.45`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`00:47.48`	`[jmc]`	`joking`
`00:48.02`	`[jmc]`	`well xfighter they're separate projects`
`00:48.13`	`[jmc]`	`FreePBX is an application for managing Asterisk`
`00:48.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: For example? GAH.. Its a 3rd party product`
`00:48.24`	`[jmc]`	`that means that it requires Asterisk :)`
`00:48.31`	`[jmc]`	`but it's not the same thing`
`00:49.03`	`xfighter`	`asterisk could have merged with them`
`00:49.17`	`[jmc]`	`http://www.sip-communicator.org â wow, that's interesting :)`
`00:49.20`	`xfighter`	`I mean they both can create a wounderful thing`
`00:49.21`	`[jmc]`	`too bad it's not web-based`
`00:49.35`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, they both DO create a wonderful thing :D`
`00:49.55`	`xfighter`	`I know but I thing there's a GAP`
`00:49.56`	`[jmc]`	`think about Trixbox or AsteriskNOW, they integrate the two pieces`
`00:50.10`	`xfighter`	`if you ask you'll see that most of the admins here hate asterisknow`
`00:50.25`	`xfighter`	`especially [TK]D-Fender`
`00:50.36`	`[jmc]`	`I just said that to give an example`
`00:50.38`	`xfighter`	`heheheh he even hates asterisk`
`00:51.10`	`[jmc]`	`the fact is that FreePBX is not the only LAMPA-based Asterisk manager`
`00:51.24`	`[jmc]`	`there's VoiceOne IIRC`
`00:51.27`	`[jmc]`	`and some others`
`00:51.38`	`[jmc]`	`so it's your choice which one to use :)`
`00:51.41`	`xfighter`	`yes I agree that freepbx is weak and not so powerful`
`00:51.51`	`[jmc]`	`not an Asterisk-developer's choice`
`00:51.58`	`xfighter`	`but imagine asterisk as whole gui'ed`
`00:52.33`	`xfighter`	`I would spend 5 years studying a book for that`
`00:52.43`	`xfighter`	`but the way asterisk is organized nowadays`
`00:52.52`	`xfighter`	`it just makes u suffer`
`00:53.05`	`xfighter`	`even the book if u took a look at it`
`00:53.21`	`xfighter`	`it's not updated`
`00:53.35`	`xfighter`	`and many information is missing`
`00:53.49`	`[jmc]`	`I know, it's an old book`
`00:53.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: BS, you never really tried, gave us a weak-assed excuse and preceeded to install a stupid GUI distro and have 0 knowledge of Linux or Telephony, or VoIp tech which you planning on giving a SEMINAR on.`
`00:54.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And the book is just fine`
`00:54.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Works for everyone else`
`00:54.17`	`xfighter`	`Come on`
`00:54.27`	`xfighter`	`you know there many things missing`
`00:54.33`	`xfighter`	`ok am not a linux expert`
`00:54.39`	`xfighter`	`but even though`
`00:54.42`	`xfighter`	`it's a book`
`00:54.49`	`xfighter`	`and books are made to guide`
`00:54.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Come on? You expect to teach things you know nothing about, and continue to try learning a platform I already told you was inappropriate as a basis`
`00:54.58`	`xfighter`	`to give information`
`00:55.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And the book is worthless when that GUI owns your sorry ass`
`00:55.18`	`[jmc]`	`wait, xfighter`
`00:55.36`	`[jmc]`	`you're making confusion about the target of the book`
`00:55.51`	`xfighter`	`yea?`
`00:56.06`	`[jmc]`	`I know that Asterisk might not be "user-friendly" in some way`
`00:56.13`	`[jmc]`	`but it's a complex piece of software`
`00:56.19`	`xfighter`	`ok`
`00:56.24`	`[jmc]`	`that runs simple crappy systems like mine`
`00:56.32`	`[jmc]`	`or even large business services`
`00:56.42`	`xfighter`	`am ok with that`
`00:56.59`	`[jmc]`	`it is complicated, and the book must explain everything in detail`
`00:57.12`	`xfighter`	`but if you wanna learn you gotta admit that the book available online is not completely helpful`
`00:57.16`	`[jmc]`	`it's probably more targeted towards system administrators`
`00:57.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[jmc]: Nope`
`00:57.29`	`xfighter`	`you don't learn and sometimes even understand something`
`00:57.29`	`xfighter`	`s`
`00:57.33`	`*** join/#asterisk ming_zym (n=ming_zym@nat/yahoo/x-d5634840d294935c)`
`00:57.53`	`xfighter`	`let me examplify`
`00:58.01`	`xfighter`	`I wanted to do it the hard way`
`00:58.17`	`xfighter`	`but when I reached the asterisk configuration step`
`00:58.22`	`xfighter`	`the .conf files`
`00:58.36`	`xfighter`	`the book explains so little about this topic`
`00:58.49`	`xfighter`	`but when u open the samples to modify them`
`00:58.54`	`xfighter`	`you just get shocked`
`00:59.14`	`xfighter`	`toooooooooooo much amount of data and expressions`
`00:59.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: BS, you never even tried`
`00:59.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And I &^#$ing handed you a complete sample`
`00:59.43`	`[jmc]`	`yeah the samples are really a long read :)`
`00:59.54`	`[jmc]`	`but the comments explain everything in detail`
`00:59.54`	`xfighter`	`I did it :)`
`01:00.03`	`xfighter`	`but my system became corrupted after doin it`
`01:00.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You are flat-out lazy. An you are expected to be comfortable with Linux as thats what * was built for.`
`01:00.07`	`xfighter`	`I dunno why`
`01:00.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Yeah... SURE`
`01:00.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Whatever`
`01:00.25`	`xfighter`	`I swear to god`
`01:00.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You are full of stories and cop-outs.`
`01:00.30`	`xfighter`	`my system got corrupted`
`01:00.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: I'm not God, and I don't particularly care how much you swear`
`01:00.50`	`xfighter`	`put yourself in my position`
`01:01.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You (at best) gave up instantly and apparently even went to DL a GUI distro`
`01:01.08`	`[jmc]`	`lol`
`01:01.45`	`xfighter`	`are u challenging me :D ??`
`01:01.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You aren't a challenge.`
`01:02.00`	`*** join/#asterisk ingenius (n=alektro@186.136.6.218)`
`01:02.12`	`xfighter`	`I CAN DO IT THE HARD WAY`
`01:02.34`	`xfighter`	`I think by now`
`01:02.38`	`xfighter`	`I have a good experience`
`01:02.42`	`*** join/#asterisk ltd_wk (i=z@patwk.transact.net.au)`
`01:02.50`	`xfighter`	`I mean I learnt some stuff`
`01:02.55`	`xfighter`	`unlike before`
`01:03.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You don't even have a grasp of the underlying OS. Or networking.`
`01:03.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And you want to lecture on VoIP?`
`01:03.15`	`M1s3ry`	`grabs some popcorn`
`01:03.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M1s3ry: For you... free butter`
`01:03.30`	`xfighter`	`we are humans , and humans learn`
`01:03.39`	`M1s3ry`	`yay!`
`01:04.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Yes, just look at international relations at home for the last 2000 years`
`01:04.34`	`xfighter`	`:D ???`
`01:04.49`	`[jmc]`	`sits back and reads on :D`
`01:05.51`	`M1s3ry`	`holy crap... I was going to scroll up and read the whole conversation/bashing, but it exceeds my scroll line limit...`
`01:06.02`	`M1s3ry`	`I need to increase that for future reference.`
`01:06.31`	`Maximo`	`everybody is listening ....`
`01:06.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M1s3ry: He's learning * so he can give a seminar on "VoIP servers" for which * ISN'T.`
`01:07.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M1s3ry: And doing so via a GUI now no less`
`01:07.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M1s3ry: that about sums it up. Oh, and no tangeable linux or networking skills`
`01:07.58`	`xfighter`	`I disagree with the networking part`
`01:08.01`	`M1s3ry`	`xfighter: Have fun....`
`01:08.06`	`xfighter`	`but linux yes`
`01:08.14`	`xfighter`	`but before blaming me`
`01:08.15`	`*** join/#asterisk LeddyHM (n=NONE@you.cant.hack.thisbox.org)`
`01:08.23`	`xfighter`	`you guyz must blame youself`
`01:08.30`	`M1s3ry`	`???`
`01:08.31`	`xfighter`	`no resources`
`01:08.34`	`xfighter`	`or not enought`
`01:08.35`	`M1s3ry`	`bull`
`01:08.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: We aren't here to teach you linux.`
`01:08.42`	`Maliuta`	`yeah, you _sooo_ understand networking mr I can't figure out a firewall`
`01:08.45`	`M1s3ry`	`there are tons of resources available`
`01:08.59`	`xfighter`	`it wasn't a firewall issue`
`01:09.04`	`xfighter`	`besides`
`01:09.06`	`M1s3ry`	`you just obviously don't know where to find them`
`01:09.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And your car dealer isn't expected to teach you to drive. And you gave up your only so-called attemp immediately.`
`01:09.08`	`xfighter`	`yes I don't do linux`
`01:09.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You are completely full of shit`
`01:09.14`	`xfighter`	`it's my first week with linux`
`01:09.32`	`xfighter`	`this guys hates me :D`
`01:09.34`	`Maliuta`	`sorry? we - the ones with working installations - have to blame ourselves because you can't configure a service or read [and understand] docs?`
`01:09.36`	`xfighter`	`guy*`
`01:09.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: I've sen people start from zero and succeed when they actually try`
`01:09.57`	`xfighter`	`I WAS TRYING`
`01:10.04`	`xfighter`	`you think I luv the system I got`
`01:10.13`	`xfighter`	`it doesn't even have a gui :D`
`01:10.29`	`xfighter`	`it's just a console`
`01:10.42`	`xfighter`	`I think the old system was even easier`
`01:10.46`	`M1s3ry`	`xfighter: first you need to understand sometimes TK can be a little harsh (@TK, thanks for the butter for my popcorn), so don't just give up if you really want to teach , but instead, SERIOUSLY re-think when you want to start telling anyone about and how it works.`
`01:11.15`	`Maliuta`	`before you teach anything you should understand it`
`01:11.20`	`xfighter`	`I didn't say I stopped reading the book`
`01:11.35`	`M1s3ry`	`xfighter: don't use a GUI and expect to know how * works... big mistake.`
`01:11.39`	`xfighter`	`but am saying and confirm that the book doesn't not include everything`
`01:11.49`	`M1s3ry`	`doesn't not?`
`01:11.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And the book isn't so much use to you anymore because your GUI OWNS YOUR ASS`
`01:12.04`	`M1s3ry`	`chuckles`
`01:12.06`	`xfighter`	`I know it does`
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`01:12.32`	`M1s3ry`	`wait, I missed that part, what GUI are you using xfighter?`
`01:12.36`	`xfighter`	`but even u guyz weren't there when I asked for support`
`01:12.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Anything you think you'll learn won't be going into proactice and therefor is untested and like being a "textbok engineer".`
`01:12.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Uh huh...`
`01:13.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: We saw what your level of patience was..`
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`01:13.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Tried REAL hard...`
`01:13.30`	`xfighter`	`tell me professor`
`01:13.36`	`xfighter`	`how did you leaarn it`
`01:14.19`	`xfighter`	`I mean , am a person who lives in the other side of the world`
`01:14.32`	`Maliuta`	`lets see, I read the book, googled for examples. installed the packages made the conf changes my research lead me to believe were right and ... BAM I had a working setup`
`01:14.33`	`xfighter`	`we grew up with C and microsoft products`
`01:14.45`	`Maliuta`	`otherside of the world from where?`
`01:14.54`	`xfighter`	`palestine`
`01:14.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: I grew up with CP/M and BASIC. Your point?`
`01:15.09`	`jplank`	`what would cause a ringback on a tdm2400p? If I initiate the hangup from the asterisk side, the PSTN side doesn't hang up right away, but after the PSTN side finally hangs up, it seems like * sees the voltage change, thinks its another call, and then sends it through`
`01:15.15`	`xfighter`	`you got used to systems I see it for the first time`
`01:15.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Linux is all over the world and several major developers of * live right next door to you`
`01:15.27`	`xfighter`	`and you expect me to do everything ASAP?!`
`01:15.43`	`xfighter`	`hmmmm not really`
`01:15.49`	`xfighter`	`we hear about it only`
`01:15.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You lok at * and think you can bypass all the underlying basics?`
`01:16.03`	`Maliuta`	`if you want help you respond in a timely fashion to peoples requests for information`
`01:16.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You only heard because you don't do anything about it.`
`01:16.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: thats called "motivation"`
`01:16.18`	`xfighter`	`no but I had a big faith in that book`
`01:16.42`	`xfighter`	`you know`
`01:16.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Don't blame the book, I've had drinks with the AUTHORS`
`01:16.51`	`xfighter`	`I love the step by step thing`
`01:16.52`	`M1s3ry`	`here here`
`01:17.05`	`xfighter`	`and that book lacks it`
`01:17.09`	`xfighter`	`it's like`
`01:17.10`	`Maliuta`	`well the book worked for me, I had my TDM400 and a sip softphone up in under an hour`
`01:17.12`	`[jmc]`	`well Linux is really worldwide-spread by now`
`01:17.14`	`xfighter`	`jumps by jumps`
`01:17.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You jumped ship. I expected little better, and am not surprised`
`01:17.35`	`xfighter`	`tell you what`
`01:17.47`	`xfighter`	`am installing now the old system again`
`01:17.49`	`Maliuta`	`the book is enough to get 99.999999999999999% of people up and running`
`01:17.57`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, just a curiosity, your age?`
`01:18.08`	`xfighter`	`22`
`01:18.37`	`[jmc]`	`year of university study?`
`01:19.12`	`xfighter`	`I will start my 4th this fall`
`01:19.34`	`[jmc]`	`ok`
`01:19.57`	`[jmc]`	`strange, no one has ever told you about Linux?`
`01:20.10`	`xfighter`	`I know the basics`
`01:20.15`	`[jmc]`	`I take for granted that you're doing computer science`
`01:20.22`	`xfighter`	`yes`
`01:20.24`	`xfighter`	`IT`
`01:20.25`	`[jmc]`	`:)`
`01:20.28`	`[jmc]`	`ok`
`01:20.32`	`[jmc]`	`strange`
`01:20.40`	`[jmc]`	`I'm in the second year right now`
`01:20.55`	`xfighter`	`we focus on microsoft products`
`01:20.56`	`[jmc]`	`we already had exams of operating systems and related laboratories`
`01:21.05`	`[jmc]`	`some of them were heavily Linux-focused`
`01:21.12`	`xfighter`	`java is the only thing we care for besides that`
`01:21.36`	`M1s3ry`	`xfighter: lol, I jumped from waiting tables into Telephony + * + networking and started selling * phone systems, and configuring/troubleshooting them... It ain't hard man.`
`01:21.43`	`xfighter`	`yea it's a shame that we don't focus on linux`
`01:22.25`	`xfighter`	`somehow our market is different`
`01:22.52`	`xfighter`	`people here don't go for the tough options`
`01:22.54`	`[jmc]`	`well, market shares are Microsoft-centric :D`
`01:23.04`	`[jmc]`	`all over the world`
`01:23.04`	`xfighter`	`they always go for the easiest choices`
`01:23.11`	`M1s3ry`	`please tell me what the hell is different about asterisk and linux in pakistan`
`01:23.16`	`[jmc]`	`at least, for the desktop market`
`01:23.30`	`[jmc]`	`but for servers and related stuff?`
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`01:23.31`	`xfighter`	`well let me ask u something`
`01:23.45`	`dacs`	`howdy folks`
`01:23.49`	`xfighter`	`where do u live M1s3ry ??`
`01:23.59`	`M1s3ry`	`Huntsville Alabama :)`
`01:24.09`	`[jmc]`	`sweeet hooome alabamaaa`
`01:24.12`	`M1s3ry`	`fo sho!`
`01:24.18`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`01:24.24`	`[jmc]`	`great song`
`01:24.25`	`xfighter`	`cool , am sure that they sell laptops with linux installed there right?`
`01:24.32`	`dacs`	`love that song`
`01:24.33`	`M1s3ry`	`puts his right hand on his heart and sings the state anthem...`
`01:24.46`	`M1s3ry`	`xfighter, lol, sure why?`
`01:24.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M1s3ry: "Southern Man" by Neil Young?`
`01:24.59`	`xfighter`	`well , you can't find such laptop here`
`01:25.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`:p`
`01:25.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And nothing stops you from installing it yourself`
`01:25.18`	`xfighter`	`only windows`
`01:25.20`	`[jmc]`	`oh right`
`01:25.27`	`xfighter`	`I know`
`01:25.28`	`M1s3ry`	`xfighter, okay, Before I jumped into asterisk I NEVER touched Linux, or Asterisk!`
`01:25.32`	`xfighter`	`the idea is`
`01:25.34`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, the power of Linux is that it comes in many flavors`
`01:25.43`	`[jmc]`	`and you can freely choose one of them`
`01:25.47`	`[jmc]`	`without any charge`
`01:26.03`	`xfighter`	`somehow in the states or europe you guyz are forced to meet this system someday in your life`
`01:26.09`	`xfighter`	`but in my case`
`01:26.13`	`xfighter`	`am chasing the system`
`01:26.26`	`M1s3ry`	`lol, TK, want me to serenade you with some Southern Man? :p`
`01:26.45`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, and you're doing the right thing`
`01:26.45`	`M1s3ry`	`not true...`
`01:26.50`	`[jmc]`	`don't get it wrong`
`01:26.54`	`[jmc]`	`here it is the same`
`01:27.03`	`[jmc]`	`I first used Linux when I was 15`
`01:27.17`	`[jmc]`	`I am "strange" because I know about the Linux-world :P`
`01:27.23`	`xfighter`	`so am 7 years late`
`01:27.25`	`[jmc]`	`I dare even to maintain a Debian clan`
`01:27.27`	`M1s3ry`	`I was 19... and it's because it was due to my job at that time.`
`01:27.46`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, it's never "late"`
`01:28.07`	`[jmc]`	`and about Linux+Asterisk`
`01:28.15`	`M1s3ry`	`xfighter, so quit !@#$%ing about never having had seen linux until now, actually learn how to operate it (not the GUI) and read up about *`
`01:28.49`	`[jmc]`	`yes, the learning curve is tougher for somebody and lighter for somebody else`
`01:28.55`	`Maximo`	`you guys will be all friends by the night's end !!!`
`01:28.56`	`[jmc]`	`but take your time`
`01:29.36`	`xfighter`	`I will learn linux , it's just the time`
`01:29.42`	`xfighter`	`I need the time`
`01:29.49`	`[jmc]`	`yeah`
`01:29.52`	`[jmc]`	`that's it`
`01:29.53`	`xfighter`	`I must create many things beside the server`
`01:30.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: 4 years into a university program without opening your eyes to the rest of the world. Might want to look at your career path.`
`01:30.09`	`xfighter`	`I must do my own gui`
`01:30.13`	`xfighter`	`my own website`
`01:30.19`	`xfighter`	`my own plans`
`01:30.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Microsoft techs are a dime a dozen`
`01:30.26`	`xfighter`	`my own database`
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`01:30.39`	`[jmc]`	`wtf your own database???`
`01:30.41`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`01:30.47`	`[jmc]`	`well THAT is crazy stuff`
`01:30.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[jmc]: Don't worry, I'm sure his wheel will be rounder.`
`01:31.08`	`[jmc]`	`lol`
`01:31.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"Those that fail to understand UNIX are doomed to recreate it.... poorly"`
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`01:32.18`	`coppice`	`dunno. MS recreated VMS poorly, but got rich and VMS died`
`01:32.31`	`xfighter`	`it's true am weak in this field`
`01:32.42`	`[jmc]`	`VMS?`
`01:32.43`	`xfighter`	`but we focused on the graphics field`
`01:32.57`	`dacs`	`my mind is confused...in sip.conf i assigin phone extension....then what is extension.conf for?`
`01:32.58`	`xfighter`	`we have good skills in multimedia`
`01:33.02`	`M1s3ry`	`That's not extremely IT related then...`
`01:33.11`	`xfighter`	`look guyz`
`01:33.14`	`xfighter`	`here's an example`
`01:33.18`	`xfighter`	`who wanna support dac`
`01:33.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: How do you focus on the "graphics field" with "microsoft products"?`
`01:33.43`	`xfighter`	`adobe and avid this time not microsoft :D`
`01:33.45`	`coppice`	`[jmc] MS hired some of the core VMS team to develop NT. NT looks like a stripped down botched up VMS`
`01:33.52`	`xfighter`	`and blender if you know it`
`01:33.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: Has your brain completely flushed out since you started over a year ago?`
`01:34.15`	`dacs`	`[TK]D-Fender: yep sir!`
`01:34.28`	`xfighter`	`dacs`
`01:34.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: And sip.conf is not for defining EXTENSIONS, itss for defning DEVICES`
`01:34.41`	`xfighter`	`why didn't know how to configure it?`
`01:34.45`	`xfighter`	`whats so hard about it?`
`01:35.07`	`xfighter`	`what don't u understand?`
`01:35.08`	`[jmc]`	`deja vu?`
`01:35.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: Without extensions.conf you have nothing to dial.`
`01:35.26`	`[jmc]`	`coppice, oh, I didn't know about VMS`
`01:35.27`	`xfighter`	`jmc , :D this is what am talkin about`
`01:35.59`	`M1s3ry`	`TK, he can dial... he just won't get anywhere :)`
`01:36.14`	`M1s3ry`	`foodz`
`01:36.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M1s3ry: Yeah I suppose I did only vaguely imply with any success there...`
`01:36.46`	`M1s3ry`	`true, true...`
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`01:37.22`	`[jmc]`	`hmm guys`
`01:37.30`	`dacs`	`well i really don't know what to do, i feel i am stuck , and reading the book doesn't help anymore it is realy hard`
`01:37.32`	`[jmc]`	`I was wondering right now`
`01:37.38`	`xfighter`	`OMG`
`01:37.44`	`xfighter`	`OOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGG`
`01:37.52`	`[jmc]`	`oh god XD`
`01:37.56`	`M1s3ry`	`dacs, my paypal account can resolve that problem =D`
`01:37.59`	`xfighter`	`am not hearing you DAC`
`01:38.04`	`[jmc]`	`ok dacs, what's the problem?`
`01:38.05`	`xfighter`	`you gotta speak louder`
`01:38.11`	`xfighter`	`let them hear you buddy`
`01:38.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And he's not seeing you... but that another story`
`01:38.32`	`xfighter`	`All Roots Lead To ROme`
`01:38.42`	`[jmc]`	`so they lead to me? :P`
`01:38.44`	`[jmc]`	`ok`
`01:39.04`	`M1s3ry`	`[TK]D-Fender, it was the result of a late night, with booze in Alabama...`
`01:39.05`	`[jmc]`	`dacs, you define SIP channels in sip.conf, and your entire dialplan in extensions.conf`
`01:39.07`	`dacs`	`M1s3ry: yea sure, give me you paypal account`
`01:39.27`	`dacs`	`[jmc]: ok`
`01:39.39`	`[jmc]`	`in sip.conf you tell where to redirect your incoming/outgoing calls`
`01:40.30`	`xfighter`	`also`
`01:40.32`	`dacs`	`[jmc]: as for now, all what i want to do is setup 2 Ekiga phone with different extension and call each other`
`01:40.35`	`xfighter`	`he didin't understand`
`01:40.39`	`dacs`	`can i do that`
`01:40.47`	`[jmc]`	`hmm`
`01:40.52`	`[jmc]`	`theoretically, yes`
`01:40.59`	`[jmc]`	`on two different machines?`
`01:41.32`	`dacs`	`ahhhh , so i will need to machines...i am 3k miles away from my other box`
`01:41.40`	`[jmc]`	`hmm`
`01:41.41`	`xfighter`	`no`
`01:41.44`	`[jmc]`	`I don't really know`
`01:41.52`	`xfighter`	`no he doesn't need 2 machines`
`01:41.55`	`[jmc]`	`but Ekiga will listen on :5060`
`01:41.57`	`layne`	`could use a VM no?`
`01:42.08`	`[jmc]`	`the second Ekiga would occupy the same port`
`01:42.09`	`xfighter`	`so what`
`01:42.13`	`[jmc]`	`am I wrong?`
`01:42.30`	`M1s3ry`	`oh wait... Asterisk on a vm? I'd never suggest that... but that's just me.`
`01:42.31`	`xfighter`	`they are not the same device`
`01:42.49`	`xfighter`	`these are just ports`
`01:42.52`	`[jmc]`	`I was not talking about devices`
`01:42.55`	`xfighter`	`think about it in this way`
`01:42.56`	`layne`	`M1s3ry, I don't blame you. If it is the only option and not for production use though, should work`
`01:43.08`	`xfighter`	`all people use port 80 for browsing`
`01:43.18`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, if you have an Ekiga running on localhost:5060`
`01:43.26`	`[jmc]`	`the other one won't run on localhost:5060`
`01:43.26`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`01:43.30`	`[jmc]`	`that's what I mean`
`01:43.37`	`xfighter`	`oh`
`01:43.44`	`[jmc]`	`it wouldn't ever listen to your requests`
`01:43.45`	`M1s3ry`	`layne, everytime I'm spoken to someone, and listened in on a server vm'ing multiple * instances, there was horribly choppy audio....`
`01:43.53`	`dacs`	`xfighter: hhmmmm, i can see where you are going with that , because it is a UDP`
`01:43.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[21:43]<xfighter>all people use port 80 for browsing <- nope`
`01:44.13`	`xfighter`	`well except those who need proxy`
`01:44.14`	`dacs`	`so there is not handshake`
`01:44.21`	`dacs`	`but`
`01:44.32`	`xfighter`	`lsn if you're talkin about different machines it's ok`
`01:44.38`	`xfighter`	`but the same machine nope`
`01:44.43`	`layne`	`M1s3ry, It happened to me too when I used it in a VM so you are 100% correct. If it is the person's only temporary option, it should be okay. I misread it I think that he needed more than 1 client to test, in which a VM would do okay`
`01:44.46`	`Maliuta`	`M1s3ry: the amount of interrupts needed for the audio work * does make it a poor candidate for vms`
`01:45.01`	`Maliuta`	`v/vm/vm's/`
`01:45.08`	`dacs`	`but L5 need to know which device is what? no`
`01:45.08`	`Maliuta`	`s/vm/vm's/`
`01:45.30`	`M1s3ry`	`Maliuta, how dare you misspell!`
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`01:45.44`	`torr`	`g[Jun 11 03:27:02] WARNING[11377] chan_oss.c: Unable to re-open DSP device /dev/dsp: No such file or directory`
`01:45.57`	`[jmc]`	`ALSA ftw`
`01:46.03`	`torr`	`why does it try to load dsp?`
`01:46.17`	`torr`	`I don't want any sound on the server`
`01:46.43`	`[jmc]`	`torr, edit modules.conf and do a noload => chan_oss.so`
`01:46.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : What are you doing that generates that error?`
`01:47.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[jmc]: There is an action more responsible than just a module loading.`
`01:47.38`	`[jmc]`	`what do you mean?`
`01:48.02`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: just server restart`
`01:48.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[jmc]: That should not happen jsut because of a module load`
`01:48.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Do you have an actual problem due to this?`
`01:48.26`	`[jmc]`	`oh`
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`01:48.32`	`[jmc]`	`yeah right :)`
`01:48.44`	`[jmc]`	`but he's just said he doesn't want any sound at all`
`01:48.59`	`[jmc]`	`so maybe he's not even interested in loading it`
`01:49.08`	`dshap`	`Can someone help me get the MYSQL() application addon setup? i thought i installed it correctly but now when I try to call MYSQL() it says unknown application`
`01:49.08`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have just installed and I am trying to connect via ekiga and I don't secceed yet`
`01:49.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : that message should have no impact on that`
`01:49.33`	`torr`	`ok`
`01:50.02`	`torr`	`what is wrong then?`
`01:50.20`	`[jmc]`	`torr, review you sip.conf file`
`01:50.33`	`dshap`	`do i need to edit a configuration file in addition to installing the addon package?`
`01:51.04`	`[jmc]`	`guys, as I was saying before`
`01:51.19`	`[jmc]`	`if I stay a little more here`
`01:51.24`	`[jmc]`	`I will see the sun rise :P`
`01:51.39`	`[jmc]`	`so, just one last question (for today :D)`
`01:51.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Dunno, you're not shoing SIP DEBUG from * CLI for any of your attempts and you've provided virtually no description of your working envionrment.`
`01:51.54`	`dshap`	`jmc: can that last question be mine? :)`
`01:52.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torrUnfortuanately we are only psychic on TUESDAYS`
`01:52.02`	`torr`	`[jmc]: I have added at the end of the sip file like in this web page`
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`01:52.04`	`torr`	`http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/asterisk_voip_ipphone.html`
`01:52.20`	`torr`	`two accounts, test and ivan`
`01:52.26`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, who stops us from asking two things separately? :D`
`01:52.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: Depends what you installed addons for.`
`01:53.05`	`[jmc]`	`torr, yeah, what does the asterisk console say when you fail to register?`
`01:53.18`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: i just installed the latest addon package that was on digium's site`
`01:53.23`	`[jmc]`	`however`
`01:53.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[jmc]: I don't recall seeing a statemtn that its a registration error...`
`01:53.29`	`torr`	`how do I open asterisk cosole?`
`01:53.30`	`[jmc]`	`here's my question`
`01:53.33`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: i was told that contained the MYSQL application`
`01:53.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: AND?! What did you install it FOR?`
`01:53.51`	`xfighter`	`the person you're callin is not avialable`
`01:53.52`	`[jmc]`	`[TK]D-Fender, you're right :\|`
`01:53.53`	`xfighter`	`why?`
`01:53.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: Well do you see a config file for it?`
`01:54.03`	`torr`	`(i have just tried to use ekiga so far)`
`01:54.08`	`xfighter`	`2 peers online`
`01:54.12`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: what would it be called?`
`01:54.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: GUI'S ARE NOT SUPPORTED IN THIS CHANNEL`
`01:54.24`	`xfighter`	`:D`
`01:54.31`	`xfighter`	`just this one professor`
`01:54.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: go look in your source tarball`
`01:54.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: NO`
`01:54.38`	`[jmc]`	`torr, on your terminal launch "asterisk -rc"`
`01:54.40`	`xfighter`	`plz plz plz`
`01:54.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You have to jump through their crap to configure this. too bad`
`01:54.52`	`[jmc]`	`torr, and set "sip show debug"`
`01:55.06`	`xfighter`	`crap?`
`01:55.14`	`[jmc]`	`crap -> shit`
`01:55.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You're right.. I should insult their shit like that :p`
`01:55.20`	`xfighter`	`I know`
`01:55.35`	`xfighter`	`details please`
`01:55.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: MOVE ALONG...`
`01:55.45`	`xfighter`	`I dun understand`
`01:55.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`#freepbx`
`01:55.51`	`xfighter`	`:D`
`01:55.56`	`xfighter`	`this guy hates me :D`
`01:56.06`	`[jmc]`	`#freepbx guys will love you ^^`
`01:56.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: GUI's are not suported in this channel, and you are a "help vampire".`
`01:56.16`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: there are 3 files in a "configs" directory within the addon tarball. cdr_mysql.conf.sample ooh323.conf.sample res_mysql.conf.sample`
`01:56.21`	`[jmc]`	`ok, let me ask that goddamn question :D`
`01:56.33`	`xfighter`	`ok I'll buy 2 linksys hardwares tomorrow so that you love me`
`01:56.44`	`[jmc]`	`what on earth is Skype using for its communication?`
`01:56.46`	`M1s3ry`	`oh crap... He's using Freepbx and wants to tach about asterisk based off of that...`
`01:56.48`	`torr`	`why does it let only admin run adterisk?`
`01:56.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: res would seem to define DB connections for yoru app to use...`
`01:56.53`	`rob0`	`No, it's not hate, it's the fact that your question is not general asterisk, it is specific to freepbx.`
`01:57.06`	`M1s3ry`	`there's no hope for those people`
`01:57.07`	`[jmc]`	`is it possible to connect Asterisk -> Skype and vice versa?`
`01:57.20`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok i'll try moving that to my main asterisk directory and then see if i can edit its contents properly`
`01:57.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~skype`
`01:57.25`	`infobot`	`[~skype] Skype is a free VoIP software and service using a closed client and propritary protocol. Only commercial channel drivers exist, with most solutions being complex, complicated, and hack-ish . Digium's SkypeForAsterisk (see ~SkypeForAsterisk) is a new solution that is a cleaner non-dependent option.`
`01:57.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~skypeforasterisk`
`01:57.43`	`infobot`	`[~skypeforasterisk] is a Digium-made channel driver that allows Asterisk to connect to the Skype network using a Skype-supported connection method. Unlike all other solutions it does not require X11, kernel modules, or a Windows machine. See http://www.astricon.net/skype for beta details.`
`01:58.15`	`[jmc]`	`cool`
`01:58.20`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`01:58.26`	`[jmc]`	`thanks a lot TK`
`01:58.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[jmc]: You're welcome`
`01:58.54`	`M1s3ry`	`and thanks infobot, for always knowing the answers.`
`01:59.00`	`[jmc]`	`ahaha :D`
`01:59.07`	`[jmc]`	`yeah :D`
`01:59.15`	`[jmc]`	`kisses infobot`
`01:59.22`	`M1s3ry`	`???`
`01:59.23`	`torr`	`wha to do with this cli?`
`01:59.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~jbot`
`01:59.28`	`infobot`	`it has been said that jbot is a hack!, or known to have only said one useful thing. a tool, or dating the fembots, or [TK]D-Fender's b*tch, or suck, or a pain in the ass`
`01:59.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`MY BITCH!`
`01:59.59`	`M1s3ry`	`torr, pastebin that crap... That's what you dio.`
`02:00.03`	`M1s3ry`	`gasps`
`02:00.09`	`M1s3ry`	`s/dio/do`
`02:00.09`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: i put the res_mysql.config file into etc/asterisk/ and edited its contents for my database but it didnt change anything`
`02:00.10`	`dshap`	`[Jun 10 18:59:24] WARNING[11810]: pbx.c:1832 pbx_extension_helper: No application 'MYSQL' for extension (intro_menu, main, 3)`
`02:00.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: First guess is it didn't actually get compiled and/or installed`
`02:00.50`	`torr`	`M1s3ry: I need to do something, what should I do? try to call in from ekiga?`
`02:00.58`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, asterisk -rc, 'core show applications'`
`02:01.04`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: the config file doesn't have anything about the MYSQL application specifically - it's just the username/password/host stuff that I put in the parameters to MYSQL() in the first place`
`02:01.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : When you say "it doesn't work", that is clearly a result of trying something. We suugest you TRY SOMETHING`
`02:01.29`	`M1s3ry`	`torr, to be honest... I don't know enough of the issue that you are seeing to give you a good answer...`
`02:01.34`	`torr`	`ekiga say can not connect to remote host`
`02:01.35`	`dshap`	`yea MYSQL is not there`
`02:01.36`	`dshap`	`sigh`
`02:01.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Enable SIP debug at * CLI. Look for conenction attempts`
`02:02.00`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: can i just go ./configure, make, make install again?`
`02:02.19`	`torr`	`nothing happen at the cli`
`02:02.22`	`M1s3ry`	`s/,/" && "`
`02:02.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: "make menuconfig" <-- MAYBE you should look and see if you're missing DEPENDENCIES`
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`02:02.45`	`torr`	`what is the port for asterisk sip?`
`02:02.45`	`M1s3ry`	`torr, did you turn verbose up? did you attempt to connect?`
`02:02.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Pastebin your attempt and show us you have SIP DEBUG enabled`
`02:03.06`	`M1s3ry`	`5060 by default`
`02:03.29`	`torr`	`Server2*CLI> sip set debug`
`02:03.29`	`torr`	`SIP Debugging re-enabled`
`02:03.53`	`M1s3ry`	`core set verbose 10?`
`02:04.17`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: it says it depends on mysqlclient(E) which i apparently don't have - now what?`
`02:04.41`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, install it`
`02:04.41`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
`02:04.43`	`torr`	`what is Verbosity was 0 and is now 10`
`02:04.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : SIP DEBUG, not "verbose"`
`02:05.13`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, which distro are you running?`
`02:05.19`	`dshap`	`jmc: CentOs 5.3`
`02:05.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Looks like its on now. If you see no traffic then you have a networking issue`
`02:05.23`	`M1s3ry`	`TK, I's thinking so we know he makes the call, whatev.`
`02:05.45`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, yum install mysqlclient`
`02:05.52`	`[jmc]`	`if I recall correctly`
`02:06.00`	`[jmc]`	`otherwise, yum search mysql`
`02:06.02`	`dshap`	`jmc: ok but by the way i already have MySQL installed and it is working fine`
`02:06.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`M1s3ry: verbose implies it hits the dialplan or does anything. flat out ignored calls may not register`
`02:06.06`	`*** join/#asterisk L\|NUX (n=linux@unaffiliated/lnux/x-10290)`
`02:06.08`	`[jmc]`	`and choose the proper one`
`02:06.17`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, oh, ok`
`02:06.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dspYou are missing -dev libs`
`02:06.21`	`dshap`	`jmc: i am assuming this is different than just the MySQL server - is it?`
`02:06.23`	`[jmc]`	`and the development packages?`
`02:06.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`indeed`
`02:06.29`	`M1s3ry`	`"flat out ignored calls may not register" <== My aha moment`
`02:06.32`	`[jmc]`	`:)`
`02:07.55`	`dshap`	`do i want this? mysql.i386 : MySQL client programs and shared libraries.`
`02:08.04`	`dshap`	`or this? mysql-devel.i386 : Files for development of MySQL applications.`
`02:08.16`	`[jmc]`	`the second one`
`02:08.24`	`dshap`	`ok and i dont need to put the .i386 right?`
`02:08.29`	`[jmc]`	`no :)`
`02:08.30`	`dshap`	`yum install mysql-devel`
`02:08.31`	`dshap`	`k`
`02:08.45`	`dshap`	`jmc: thanks for the 'yum search ____' trick`
`02:08.48`	`*** join/#asterisk fernandojdk (n=fernando@189.24.58.140)`
`02:08.51`	`dshap`	`had not heard of that before`
`02:08.56`	`*** join/#asterisk hi365 (n=hi365@94.159.176.206)`
`02:09.07`	`[jmc]`	`ehe`
`02:09.11`	`torr`	`It have some comment about my acount@ekiga.net which is not existing`
`02:09.12`	`[jmc]`	`np`
`02:09.16`	`dshap`	`so basically if you YUM something - it will get all dependencies automatically`
`02:09.19`	`torr`	`do I need an account there?`
`02:09.20`	`dshap`	`but if you compile it yourself`
`02:09.25`	`dshap`	`you need to worry about that on your own?`
`02:09.29`	`torr`	`I only want account on my server`
`02:09.32`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, definitely`
`02:09.38`	`dshap`	`got it`
`02:09.50`	`dshap`	`and there was no YUM for the asterisk-addon?`
`02:10.02`	`torr`	`btw`
`02:10.11`	`torr`	`the comment is at the ekiga gui,`
`02:10.18`	`torr`	`I still have nothing at the cli`
`02:10.22`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, I don't know`
`02:10.29`	`[jmc]`	`search for it :)`
`02:10.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Networking issue <-`
`02:10.31`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: If i'm just doing basic MySQL database access, is the preferred method using the MYSQL() application and not calling an AGI script such as one that uses PHP/MySQL?`
`02:10.36`	`jplank`	`any ideas what could cause a phantom ring after asterisk terminate the calls on a tdm2400p? If the PSTN side discos first, it doesn't happen, and it doesn't happen on all the lines, just some`
`02:10.46`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: what is the port?`
`02:10.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : No traffic = well.. no traffic. No * configuration can make packets magically appear at your server.`
`02:11.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : 5060 and you've been told, and you have SIP debug enabled already`
`02:11.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: Everything depends on what you need to do exactly`
`02:11.33`	`[jmc]`	`fuck I can hear the birds sing :D`
`02:11.44`	`[jmc]`	`it's 4 in the morning`
`02:11.44`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: do you have experience using the MYSQL application?`
`02:11.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: Not much`
`02:12.02`	`[jmc]`	`my bed waits :D`
`02:12.06`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: so you personally do your db access through AGI then?`
`02:12.15`	`dshap`	`jmc: goodnight and thanks for the help`
`02:12.28`	`[jmc]`	`dshap, you're welcome :)`
`02:12.35`	`[jmc]`	`goodnight everybody ;)`
`02:12.41`	`[jmc]`	`you were really helpful`
`02:13.01`	`torr`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:13.10`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: ughh i just installed the mysql dev package and the "make menuconfig" still says i can't install the mysql addon because of the mysqlclient(E) dependency`
`02:13.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: You need to look at whats involved for each and jsut make up your own mind. Consider that dialplan apps place lower load than AGI. Do you need AGI for other things? What about func_odbc?`
`02:13.23`	`torr`	`so my asterisk maybe not so running`
`02:13.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : because * SIP is **UDP**`
`02:13.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : So telnet isn;t going to get you anywhere`
`02:13.55`	`fernandojdk`	`goodnight everybory`
`02:14.03`	`xfighter`	`x-lite 2 x-lite :D plz`
`02:14.06`	`torr`	`o`
`02:14.10`	`torr`	`crap`
`02:14.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : "netstat -an\| grep 5060"`
`02:15.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : And check your firewalls`
`02:15.10`	`torr`	`udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5060 0.0.0.0:*`
`02:15.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Looks bound. is * the only SIP app running on that box?`
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`02:16.04`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: just found this on voip-info: "You must have MySQL installed and the development package prior to installing the app_addon_sql_mysql module. "`
`02:16.14`	`*** join/#asterisk phix (n=threat@123-243-44-131.tpgi.com.au)`
`02:16.38`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: but now i did "make menuconfig" to try to install app_addon_sql_mysql AFTER installing the development package, and it's XXX'd out`
`02:16.45`	`dshap`	`still`
`02:16.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: Re-extract the tarball`
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`02:17.10`	`dshap`	`ok`
`02:17.17`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender tar xzf?`
`02:17.38`	`fernandojdk`	`dshap: libmysqlclient15off and libmysqlclient15off on Debian`
`02:18.00`	`dshap`	`ferandojdk: not sure what you're saying`
`02:18.12`	`fernandojdk`	`sorry`
`02:18.25`	`dshap`	`i never know what flags to use for "tar"`
`02:18.38`	`fernandojdk`	`the packeges that voip-info says to compile app_addon_sql_mysql`
`02:19.03`	`dshap`	`where are those packages?`
`02:19.03`	`M1s3ry`	`dshap, I'm not sure what type of file your trying to untar, but try googling the file type.`
`02:19.14`	`M1s3ry`	`-zxvf is for tar.gz files`
`02:19.18`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: can i YUM those?`
`02:19.32`	`dshap`	`m1s3ry: yes it's a .gz - thank you!`
`02:19.38`	`M1s3ry`	`-np`
`02:19.44`	`fernandojdk`	`what is the SO?`
`02:19.56`	`dshap`	`S0?`
`02:20.31`	`fernandojdk`	`yes, YUM get these packages`
`02:20.35`	`dshap`	`ok`
`02:21.07`	`torr`	`is there another protocol that use tcp?`
`02:21.14`	`fernandojdk`	`what is the Operacional System in your box?`
`02:21.52`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: No package libmysqlclient15off available.`
`02:21.52`	`dshap`	`Nothing to do`
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`02:21.55`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: yes the sip app runs on that box`
`02:22.04`	`dshap`	`where did you see that voip-info page?`
`02:22.23`	`fernandojdk`	`have you apt-get installed dshap?`
`02:22.34`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: i'm using CentOS 5.3 so i use YUM`
`02:22.43`	`fernandojdk`	`oh, ok`
`02:22.55`	`dshap`	`can you link me to the voip-info page?`
`02:22.56`	`dshap`	`please`
`02:23.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : I asked if you had OTHER SIP apps than * running on that box`
`02:23.27`	`fernandojdk`	`one minute`
`02:23.53`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: i just re-extracted the addon tarball and tried "make menuconfig" again and app_addon_sql_mysql is still XXX'd out`
`02:24.14`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: no`
`02:24.24`	`torr`	`now I get something`
`02:24.33`	`fernandojdk`	`dshap`
`02:24.38`	`dshap`	`hi`
`02:24.42`	`fernandojdk`	`try yum -y install mysql-devel`
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`02:24.56`	`torr`	`I have set the proxy of ekiga to be my server`
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`02:26.18`	`fernandojdk`	`torr, if you like, i have x-lite for Linux`
`02:26.59`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: ok im trying it, but i already did "yum install mysql-devel"`
`02:27.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : going to share?`
`02:27.22`	`fernandojdk`	`sure`
`02:27.22`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: Package mysql-devel-5.0.79-1.el5.art.i386 already installed and latest version`
`02:27.22`	`dshap`	`Nothing to do`
`02:27.42`	`fernandojdk`	`try "whereis libmysqlclient"`
`02:27.56`	`fernandojdk`	`yes torr`
`02:28.17`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: it didn't find it`
`02:28.51`	`fernandojdk`	`like root, try "ldconfig"`
`02:29.14`	`dshap`	`you mean "ldconfig" in the root directory?`
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`02:29.33`	`martyn-dev`	`Hello`
`02:29.45`	`fernandojdk`	`no, logged with root privileges`
`02:30.02`	`dshap`	`i am logged in with root privelages`
`02:30.07`	`dshap`	`i'll just try ldconfig anywhere then?`
`02:30.19`	`fernandojdk`	`yes, this will update the database of modules`
`02:30.23`	`martyn-dev`	`soembody know why happend this http://pastebin.com/m7b7ae61a ?`
`02:30.28`	`martyn-dev`	`is a lenny installation ..`
`02:30.36`	`martyn-dev`	`*debian`
`02:30.47`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: ok i just did it`
`02:30.52`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: now what?`
`02:31.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`martyn-dev: Taht zaptel release is BEYOND ANCIENT`
`02:31.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`martyn-dev: I'd have serious doubts of any hopes with that kerne`
`02:31.40`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: still won't let me install app_addon_sql_mysql`
`02:31.53`	`martyn-dev`	`oh i see [TK]D-Fender ..`
`02:32.10`	`fernandojdk`	`have any error on compile?`
`02:32.13`	`martyn-dev`	`I try with 1.4 ...[TK]D-Fender`
`02:32.44`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: not sure - how would i check that?`
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`02:34.06`	`fernandojdk`	`dshap: try >> rpm -qa \| grep -i mysql`
`02:35.20`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: [root@localhost asterisk-addons-1.4.8]# rpm -qa \| grep -i mysql`
`02:35.21`	`dshap`	`perl-DBD-MySQL-3.0007-2.el5`
`02:35.21`	`dshap`	`mysql-connector-odbc-3.51.12-2.2`
`02:35.21`	`dshap`	`mysql-server-5.0.79-1.el5.art`
`02:35.21`	`dshap`	`MySQL-python-1.2.1-1`
`02:35.21`	`dshap`	`mysql-devel-5.0.79-1.el5.art`
`02:35.23`	`dshap`	`libdbi-dbd-mysql-0.8.1a-1.2.2`
`02:35.25`	`dshap`	`php-mysql-5.2.9-2.el5.art`
`02:35.27`	`dshap`	`mysql-libs-5.0.79-1.el5.art`
`02:35.29`	`dshap`	`mysql-5.0.79-1.el5.art`
`02:35.33`	`dshap`	`oops`
`02:35.35`	`dshap`	`sorry`
`02:35.37`	`dshap`	`i should have pastebinned`
`02:36.29`	`torr`	`http://pastebin.ca/1456115`
`02:36.35`	`torr`	`see ^`
`02:37.19`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: see? mysql-devel is there`
`02:37.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : I'm seeing 2 different subnets there`
`02:37.55`	`fernandojdk`	`yes, i see`
`02:38.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Contact: <sip:ivan@192.168.0.100> <-----------`
`02:38.14`	`fernandojdk`	`but, when you compile the app_addon, what is the error?`
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`02:40.17`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: all i've been doing is going into "make menuconfig" within the asterisk-addon-x.x.x directory and then i navigate to applications --> app_addon_sql_mysql and there is "XXX" to the left of it and at the bottom it says "depends on: mysqlclient(E)"`
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`02:41.34`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: 10.0.0.132 is the server`
`02:41.49`	`torr`	`which I try to call`
`02:42.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : from where?`
`02:42.05`	`fernandojdk`	`dshap: try>> yum provides mysqlclient`
`02:42.11`	`torr`	`192.168.0.100 is my wireless router`
`02:42.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : because the return contact does not matcht he IP its coming from`
`02:42.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : LOVELY.. you have NAT ISSUES.`
`02:42.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : and on all-private subnets too...`
`02:42.51`	`torr`	`o jolly good :D`
`02:42.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Read up :`
`02:42.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~sipnat`
`02:42.55`	`infobot`	`[~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions`
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`02:42.59`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: Warning: 3.0.x versions of yum would erronously match against filenames.`
`02:43.00`	`dshap`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:43.00`	`dshap`	`No Matches found`
`02:43.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`^^^^^`
`02:43.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation`
`02:43.59`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: what I don't understand is how does the ekiga client tell the server who it is`
`02:44.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : it looks at the machine's own IP.`
`02:45.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : jsut try adding "nat=yes`
`02:45.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`" to your peer first`
`02:45.27`	`fernandojdk`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:45.29`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: the issue seems that i can't get the dependency installed for the necessary addon package`
`02:46.05`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: nothin`
`02:47.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dshap: Read`
`02:48.16`	`torr`	`do I need to restart after changing the .conf?`
`02:48.22`	`fernandojdk`	`try to remove your mysql rpm`
`02:49.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : just "relaod"`
`02:49.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"reload"*`
`02:49.58`	`torr`	`in the cli?`
`02:50.05`	`torr`	`or /etc/init.d`
`02:50.46`	`dshap`	`[TK]D-Fender: i just did what that page recommends for MySQL and my server told me "nothing to do"`
`02:51.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : * CLI....`
`02:52.31`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: your recommendation is to uninstall everything that has to do with MySQL from my server?`
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`02:52.58`	`fernandojdk`	`no`
`02:53.08`	`fernandojdk`	`only mysql-devel`
`02:53.20`	`torr`	`nat=yes didn't help`
`02:53.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Read the entire first guide, and work on it for a bit`
`02:53.58`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: what command to remove taht?`
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`02:54.07`	`torr`	`k`
`02:54.33`	`fernandojdk`	`rpm -e mysql-devel-5.0.79-1.el5.art`
`02:55.23`	`dshap`	`fernandojdK: ok i did that`
`02:55.28`	`fernandojdk`	`ok`
`02:57.11`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: should i try to YUM mysql-devel again?`
`02:57.48`	`fernandojdk`	`yes`
`02:59.57`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: ok i just did this`
`03:00.01`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: now what do you recommend?`
`03:00.22`	`fernandojdk`	`enter in the directory of asterisk-addons`
`03:00.31`	`dshap`	`i am there`
`03:00.31`	`fernandojdk`	`"make clean"`
`03:00.43`	`dshap`	`ok just did that`
`03:00.44`	`dshap`	`then what`
`03:00.50`	`fernandojdk`	`./configure`
`03:02.54`	`dshap`	`ok`
`03:02.55`	`dshap`	`did that`
`03:03.14`	`fernandojdk`	`make all`
`03:03.51`	`dshap`	`ok it is working....`
`03:05.51`	`dshap`	`still working...(very slow server)`
`03:05.58`	`fernandojdk`	`ok`
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`03:09.50`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: ok it worked`
`03:10.05`	`fernandojdk`	`no errors?`
`03:10.24`	`dshap`	`where would the errors be?`
`03:10.25`	`dshap`	`at the end?`
`03:10.31`	`fernandojdk`	`yes`
`03:10.33`	`dshap`	`it says Addons has successfully been built`
`03:10.42`	`dshap`	`i dont see any errors`
`03:10.45`	`fernandojdk`	`make install`
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`03:10.59`	`dshap`	`working...`
`03:11.10`	`dshap`	`oh`
`03:11.12`	`dshap`	`it says`
`03:11.18`	`dshap`	`"nothing to be done for 'all'"`
`03:11.29`	`fernandojdk`	`make install`
`03:11.33`	`dshap`	`i did`
`03:11.54`	`dshap`	`now it says "Addons has been successfuly installed. If you would like to install the sample conifugration files..."`
`03:12.06`	`fernandojdk`	`make samples`
`03:14.00`	`dshap`	`it says it will overrite existing config files`
`03:14.03`	`dshap`	`should i still do it?`
`03:14.18`	`fernandojdk`	`not`
`03:14.24`	`dshap`	`ok`
`03:14.27`	`dshap`	`i did not do it`
`03:14.36`	`fernandojdk`	`yes`
`03:14.42`	`fernandojdk`	`its installed now`
`03:15.25`	`dshap`	`so now back to "make menuconfig" ?`
`03:15.45`	`dshap`	`or try MYSQL() in asterisk?`
`03:16.04`	`fernandojdk`	`menuconfig its not necessary now`
`03:16.43`	`fernandojdk`	`try mysql in asterisk`
`03:16.50`	`dshap`	`ok`
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`03:18.16`	`dshap`	`MYSQL now shows up in 'core show applications' !!!`
`03:18.22`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: thank you very much`
`03:18.37`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: although it doesn't appear to be connecting properly but i'll try to tackle that problem on my own before i ask for more help`
`03:18.42`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: thanks again`
`03:19.22`	`fernandojdk`	`ok`
`03:19.26`	`fernandojdk`	`dshap`
`03:19.50`	`fernandojdk`	`dont forget to configure the file res_mysql.conf`
`03:20.33`	`fernandojdk`	`and if you want to use cdr mysql, you have to configure the file cdr_mysql.conf`
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`03:20.39`	`dshap`	`can't i also just use MYSQL(Connect .....) ?`
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`03:20.49`	`torr`	`the first tutorial did nothing`
`03:21.00`	`torr`	`I don't get it`
`03:21.01`	`fernandojdk`	`no, you have to configure your connection to mysql first`
`03:21.30`	`dshap`	`do you know which port to use?`
`03:21.37`	`dshap`	`i put in "localhost" and my username/pass/db name`
`03:21.40`	`nkohh`	`torr: more or less, if [TK]D-Fender recommends something and it doesn't work, you did something wrong.`
`03:21.41`	`dshap`	`into res_mysql.conf`
`03:21.44`	`torr`	`how is UDP behind a NAT is supposed to work without port forwarding?`
`03:21.46`	`fernandojdk`	`3306`
`03:22.27`	`torr`	`nkohh: I will try again, but I still dont understand how is that possible`
`03:22.30`	`dshap`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:22.48`	`dshap`	`i have confirmed that MySQL is working, because i can log into my PhpMyAdmin and execute SQL`
`03:23.28`	`fernandojdk`	`yes, its normal this message`
`03:23.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : You have to port forward, and its in the guide.`
`03:23.39`	`dshap`	`oh`
`03:23.41`	`dshap`	`awesome`
`03:23.42`	`dshap`	`thank you!`
`03:23.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`reaches for his ClueBat (tm)`
`03:24.04`	`fernandojdk`	`u are welcome`
`03:25.48`	`dshap`	`in cdr_mysql.conf - should i uncomment userfield=1?`
`03:25.54`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: its in the second guide`
`03:26.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : its in the FIRST guide.`
`03:26.23`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: my server is not behind a nat`
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`03:26.31`	`fernandojdk`	`only if you want to use the column userfiled in the cdr table`
`03:26.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : but your remote host is.`
`03:26.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : those bits still apply`
`03:26.59`	`dshap`	`cdr_addon_mysql.c:467 my_load_module: Failed to connect to mysql database my_db on localhost.`
`03:27.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : or so it appeared`
`03:27.33`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: what if I have two soft phones behind the same nat?`
`03:27.42`	`fernandojdk`	`core set debug 4`
`03:28.31`	`fernandojdk`	`and reload asterisk`
`03:28.31`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have set the bits related to the clients`
`03:28.32`	`fernandojdk`	`then see the error that cause this`
`03:28.41`	`torr`	`[TK]D-Fender: how can I port forward like to two soft phones?`
`03:28.44`	`dshap`	`it was the socks parameter`
`03:28.46`	`dshap`	`i commented out`
`03:28.50`	`dshap`	`and now CDR MYSQL works!`
`03:28.52`	`dshap`	`i just called my server`
`03:28.55`	`dshap`	`and it put it in my MySQL database`
`03:28.57`	`dshap`	`awesome`
`03:29.01`	`dshap`	`thank you so much again, fernandojdk`
`03:29.09`	`torr`	`why don't it just use tcp/ip`
`03:29.15`	`fernandojdk`	`ok`
`03:29.19`	`fernandojdk`	`i have to go now`
`03:29.26`	`fernandojdk`	`goodnight for you`
`03:29.41`	`fernandojdk`	`goodnight everybody`
`03:29.50`	`fernandojdk`	`tomorrow i'm here`
`03:29.54`	`dshap`	`fernandojdk: goodnight`
`03:30.07`	`fernandojdk`	`sorry everybody for my bad english`
`03:30.15`	`dshap`	`no problems`
`03:30.16`	`fernandojdk`	`i'm live in brazil`
`03:30.36`	`dshap`	`they just cut interest rates there didn't they?`
`03:30.37`	`torr`	`suppose I am traveling... and I get someplace that has a nat, what am I supposed to do, ast the poor people to set port forwarding for my softphone?1`
`03:31.30`	`torr`	`is there anohter protocol, that is tcpip?`
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`03:34.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : pastebiin your new configs & attempts because I naturally don't trust you've followed this properly by default`
`03:37.46`	`torr`	`http://pastebin.ca/1456156`
`03:40.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : now permanently remove everythign that is commented out, repaste and show an actual call attempt`
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`03:48.55`	`torr`	`http://pastebin.ca/1456161`
`03:51.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : What router are you using there?`
`03:51.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : It may the issue`
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`03:55.39`	`torr`	`di-524`
`03:55.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`GAH`
`03:55.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : D-Link often causes problems.`
`03:56.31`	`torr`	`skype get by`
`03:58.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Skype can do all sorts of dirty crap including masquerading as port 80 <-----`
`03:58.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : An please don't mention them here.... its kinda vulgar`
`03:59.17`	`torr`	`what is?`
`03:59.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`SKYPE`
`03:59.30`	`torr`	`o`
`03:59.46`	`torr`	`sorry, I really didn't mean to`
`04:00.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : If possible I'd recommend attempting to run your Di in "route" mode as opposed to "NAT".`
`04:01.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Because barring that I've heard tons of problems with DI5XX series routers`
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`04:03.05`	`torr`	`there isn't a route mode`
`04:03.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:03.30`	`torr`	`or any modes for nat`
`04:03.55`	`torr`	`wan is connected to a hub`
`04:04.12`	`torr`	`antenna connects to my laptop`
`04:04.26`	`torr`	`hub connected to a PC`
`04:05.02`	`torr`	`pc run asterisk`
`04:05.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : slightly busted description and WAN tends to go to a router...`
`04:05.52`	`torr`	`the hub goes to an othre hub`
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`04:06.04`	`torr`	`the other hub goes to a router`
`04:06.10`	`torr`	`fyi`
`04:07.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr : Now try drawing that as a STRAIGHT LINE`
`04:08.24`	`torr`	`laptop->di5024 antena->di524 wan->hub->PC->asterisk`
`04:17.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr: Yup, single NAT. Your router's to blame`
`04:17.07`	`torr`	`my irc cllient in which I talk right now have no problem`
`04:17.07`	`torr`	`with it , and it goes through one more nat`
`04:17.09`	`torr`	`on the other hand IRC is not UDP`
`04:17.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr: Indeed and as I'v told you, this is a "known offender" series`
`04:17.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`torr: All of the "buts XYZ works" won't change this`
`04:18.37`	`carrar`	`laptop->nat->nat->wifi->nat->nat->router->nat->dslmodem-ispnat->INTERNET`
`04:18.48`	`carrar`	`IRC WORKS!!`
`04:22.56`	`torr`	`carrar: IRC is cool :D`
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`04:44.20`	`shido6`	`hands carrar a nat swatter`
`04:44.42`	`carrar`	`NAT by bitch up!`
`04:44.44`	`carrar`	`err`
`04:44.48`	`carrar`	`s/by/my/`
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`04:48.35`	`coolthreads`	`Just did a sudo apt-get install asterisk, and transfered my sip.conf and extension.conf over. But now I cant seem to get my incoming working unless I add it under the [default] section as include =>my context. It should read my context = my context in the sip.conf`
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`04:57.52`	`coolthreads`	`any suggestion`
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`05:16.10`	`xfighter`	`hii`
`05:16.30`	`xfighter`	`is there any one awake here?`
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`05:43.47`	`wdoekes`	`sure`
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`06:03.21`	`nephfl`	`What do i need to add to a digium card to allow a phone to draw more current?`
`06:06.35`	`Qwell`	`nephfl: There's a boostringer option that'll push double the voltage on ringing`
`06:08.02`	`lanning`	`and that is used for what? ignition trigger?`
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`06:23.59`	`jplank`	`whats the latest zaptel 1.4.12.1?`
`06:24.32`	`Qwell`	`sounds right`
`06:25.13`	`jplank`	`I think I finally figured out my phantom ringing on some installs and my one * that doesn't pick up caller ID`
`06:25.56`	`jplank`	`I'm going to try to up the ring debounce`
`06:26.17`	`jplank`	`and the system I'm going to try it on I'd rather just keep zaptel then jumping to dahdi`
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`06:42.49`	`coolthreads`	`ummm It should read my context = my context in the sip.conf for my sip provider but it wont unless I add include => my context`
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`07:52.12`	`joelsolanki`	`Hi All. having problem with a voicemail configuration`
`07:52.26`	`joelsolanki`	`please see pastebin for complete problem and config files`
`07:52.27`	`joelsolanki`	`http://pastebin.ca/1456317`
`07:52.37`	`joelsolanki`	`please provide your suggestions. i am stuck`
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`08:00.24`	`kaldemar`	`joelsolanki: you have an extension somewhere in your dialplan that points to the voicemail it is trying to reach.`
`08:02.14`	`joelsolanki`	`let me see`
`08:02.41`	`kaldemar`	`to be accurate, exten => *97,1,VoiceMail(4028530666@digitalphone-voicemail) somewhere under [digitalphone-unlimited]`
`08:03.01`	`joelsolanki`	`yes i have digitalphone-unlimited context.`
`08:03.23`	`joelsolanki`	`it is a long dialplan file`
`08:03.38`	`joelsolanki`	`1 min`
`08:03.53`	`kaldemar`	`"dialplan show digitalphone-unlimited" will show the running dialplan and give you the proof. where it comes from, can be seen with all the configuration.`
`08:04.31`	`joelsolanki`	`ok checking`
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`08:06.04`	`joelsolanki`	`kaldemar: here it is http://pastebin.ca/1456328`
`08:08.02`	`joelsolanki`	`do u see trouble in this ?`
`08:08.21`	`kaldemar`	`there is no exten *97 in your context. sangoma2 is included in digitalphone-unlimited so it might be there. if not, you first paste doesn't apply to the phone you're using.`
`08:09.16`	`kaldemar`	`show the whole cli output for a call to *97.`
`08:09.30`	`joelsolanki`	`ok 1 sec`
`08:09.59`	`joelsolanki`	`kaldemar r u going 2 be here for 10 mins?`
`08:10.15`	`kaldemar`	`yes, i'll be around.`
`08:10.15`	`joelsolanki`	`i will be back in 10 mins ok ?`
`08:10.19`	`joelsolanki`	`ok`
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`08:18.13`	`fcois93`	`hello all`
`08:18.34`	`fcois93`	`I have a problem with my dialplan to execute the exten=>h,1,...`
`08:19.01`	`fcois93`	`if the called answer and hangup it execute the exten=>h,1,...`
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`08:19.33`	`fcois93`	`but, If I hangup during the ringing(CANCEL), it dont execute the exten=>H,1,...`
`08:19.37`	`fcois93`	`know you why?`
`08:19.58`	`joelsolanki`	`kaldemar: back`
`08:20.09`	`joelsolanki`	`let me give you the CLI output`
`08:21.07`	`joelsolanki`	`Here is the output for *97 CLI http://pastebin.ca/1456340`
`08:22.49`	`joelsolanki`	`and here is the sangoma2 context http://pastebin.ca/1456341`
`08:25.27`	`joelsolanki`	`but i dont see anything for *97 :(`
`08:26.47`	`kaldemar`	`dialplan show sangoma2`
`08:27.17`	`kaldemar`	`it must be in some file under /etc/asterisk/sip-extensions/internal-extensions/`
`08:27.45`	`joelsolanki`	`ok`
`08:29.12`	`jplank`	`pastebin is joelsolanki`
`08:29.17`	`jplank`	`pastebin it*`
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`08:30.47`	`joelsolanki`	`http://pastebin.ca/1456350`
`08:30.58`	`joelsolanki`	`i paste first few lines which looks interesting`
`08:31.05`	`joelsolanki`	`take a look plz`
`08:32.10`	`kaldemar`	`well there you go. you will find "exten => *97,1,VoiceMail(4028530666@digitalphone-voicemail)" in some file under /etc/asterisk/sip-extensions/internal-extensions/.`
`08:32.24`	`joelsolanki`	`yes agreee`
`08:32.42`	`joelsolanki`	`there is a file /etc/asterisk/sip-extensions/internal-extensions/4028530666.conf`
`08:33.13`	`joelsolanki`	`but i delete that file and then again do *97 from my number 4028530999 then it will go on 4024666148 i think`
`08:33.19`	`kaldemar`	`if you intend to have 97 for every phone in their files and want them to be able to dial 97 for their own voicemail, put their clid in the extension.`
`08:33.35`	`joelsolanki`	`yes that is what i wanted to do`
`08:34.28`	`joelsolanki`	`kaldemar: how do i do that ?`
`08:34.30`	`kaldemar`	`then use "exten => *97/4028530999,1,VoiceMail(4028530999@digitalphone-voicemail)"`
`08:34.47`	`joelsolanki`	`oh ok`
`08:34.54`	`joelsolanki`	`let me try it plz`
`08:35.02`	`kaldemar`	`but, i'd use separate contexts for all phones.`
`08:35.38`	`joelsolanki`	`hmm why so ?`
`08:35.57`	`kaldemar`	`then you won't run into this kind of problems.`
`08:36.29`	`joelsolanki`	`yes agree. i have this setup as automatic provisioning so maybe i need to tweak few configs to avoid this type of problems.`
`08:36.48`	`kaldemar`	`or even better, use just one context for voicemail, using exten => *97,1,VoiceMail(${CALLERID(num)}@digitalphone-voicemail) or something like that.`
`08:37.24`	`kaldemar`	`then you don't have to have an own extension for each phone.`
`08:39.06`	`joelsolanki`	`actually i created each extension for each phone because i have different dialplans.`
`08:39.20`	`joelsolanki`	`some phones are allowed to make calls within usa and canada`
`08:39.34`	`joelsolanki`	`some phones are allowed to make calls to europe only`
`08:39.41`	`joelsolanki`	`so i did like that way.`
`08:40.11`	`joelsolanki`	`what other good way is there suiting my scenario ?`
`08:40.14`	`kaldemar`	`then you could have an own context for each phone and include => usa_and_canada, include => europe and so on in the context.`
`08:41.03`	`kaldemar`	`and for voicemail, include => voicemail that would have a single extension that directs the caller to the right mailbox depending on the caller id.`
`08:41.17`	`joelsolanki`	`hmm`
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`09:01.28`	`WeazelON`	`hey guys, i'm getting a wierd error on attended transfer, when i'm not waiting for the 3rd party to answer and just hangup to initiate the transfer of 3nd and 2nd parties. it tells me it can't play Beep sound`
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`09:08.56`	`webman`	`hi I decided to upgrade from asterisk 1.4 to 1.6.1.1 and have a B410 ISDN card and I get this error message "chan_dahdi.c:14599 process_dahdi: Unknown signalling method 'bri_cpe_ptmp' at line 1016." when I use the sample config from the documentation any suggestions ?`
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`09:14.10`	`mort_gib`	`webman: Yes, well according to a Digium tech bri_cpe_ptmp is not supported in Dahdi yet`
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`09:15.02`	`kervel`	`hello, i'm trying to set up a connection between two asterisk servers`
`09:15.09`	`kervel`	`from A to B : works`
`09:15.16`	`kervel`	`from B to A : iax2 says "no authority found"`
`09:15.53`	`kervel`	`A is an 1.2 , B is an 1.4 box.`
`09:16.16`	`kervel`	`and auth=md5. when i sniff, i see A denying the call immediately without any authentication challenge`
`09:17.43`	`webman`	`mort_gib: so does that suggest we can't use the b410p with dahdi? need to use misdn even with asterisk 1.6 ?`
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`09:19.09`	`mort_gib`	`webman: Well that's what I was told, I have been fighting to get it to work... I haven't tried mISDN`
`09:19.12`	`kervel`	`does that mean the auth goes wrong, or does that mean it cannot find the [blabla] in iax.conf`
`09:19.18`	`yang`	`hello mort_gib`
`09:19.37`	`mort_gib`	`See I wanted to use a card that was 100% Digium supported...`
`09:19.40`	`mort_gib`	`Hi Yang`
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`09:25.54`	`WeazelON`	`hey guys, i'm getting a wierd error on attended transfer, when i'm not waiting for the 3rd party to answer and just hangup to initiate the transfer of 3nd and 2nd parties. it tells me it can't play Beep sound`
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`09:30.07`	`WeazelON`	`i'll try to rephrase maybe`
`09:30.18`	`WeazelON`	`making Asterisk behave much more like traditional PBX systems: An attended transfer no longer fails if the transferer hangs up before answer, therefore only the attended transfer method needs to be taught to the users. this option does not work for me`
`09:31.22`	`mort_gib`	`WeazelON: What phones are you using??`
`09:31.47`	`WeazelON`	`Snom360`
`09:32.08`	`mort_gib`	`I had similar isues with the Snoms, FW version??`
`09:32.21`	`WeazelON`	`7.3.14a`
`09:32.38`	`WeazelON`	`but i don't think its phone related, since i'm doing my tests with zoiper aswell, and i get the same error`
`09:32.45`	`mort_gib`	`I had issues with the Snoms on high call volumen`
`09:32.53`	`WeazelON`	`×× ×××× ×¢××¦×× × ×××ª× ×§×××`
`09:32.59`	`WeazelON`	`woops srry`
`09:33.40`	`WeazelON`	`well thing is, when i hang up before answer, everything is disconnected from the call`
`09:33.52`	`mort_gib`	`So I tried a Polycom and lo and behold`
`09:34.20`	`WeazelON`	`i have this working on another pbx with snom or zoiper so it can't be that`
`09:34.27`	`mort_gib`	`You are BETTER off using hold (on the Snom) and transfer`
`09:34.34`	`mort_gib`	`Ok...`
`09:35.39`	`WeazelON`	`when i use the phone's transfer capabilities it cuts some of the recordings when users use the transfer option`
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`09:44.27`	`webman`	`mort_gib: so do you actually have the b410p card working? or you are still trying ?`
`09:44.52`	`mort_gib`	`webman: It's like "work in progress"`
`09:45.45`	`mort_gib`	`I have Dahdi recognizing the card, not a problem, but as soon as I fill in the chan_dahdi.conf I get error "unknown signalling etc etc"`
`09:46.53`	`webman`	`mort_gib: yeah, that is exactly were I am up to....`
`09:47.28`	`webman`	`how long has it been in this status? I thought dahdi would be pretty stable by now....`
`09:48.13`	`mort_gib`	`Dahdi is stable, it's just not supporting point-to-multipoint Bri`
`09:48.25`	`mort_gib`	`Which is what Gibtelecom provides :-(`
`09:48.44`	`webman`	`isn't that what pretty much every telco would provide ?`
`09:49.18`	`kervel`	`could it be that asterisk 1.2 cannot talk to asterisk 1.4 over iax ?`
`09:49.24`	`kervel`	`iax2`
`09:49.58`	`webman`	`kervel: no, I have done that in the past (1.2 talking to 1.4)`
`09:51.11`	`mort_gib`	`webman: Telefonica provides point-to-point`
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`09:51.46`	`mort_gib`	`webman: I haven't tried misdn`
`09:51.47`	`kervel`	`webman i get "no authority found" whatever i try. i read that it is due to missing or wrong section in iax.conf but i'm quite sure the username sent over the wire matches the section title.`
`09:52.22`	`kervel`	`webman i still use 1.2.12 , and the 1.2 box never sends a challenge (for auth) to the 1.4 box, it denies the call right away`
`09:52.44`	`webman`	`mort_gib: have you spoken to digium about this? what is the suggested solution? I was following the docs from http://docs.digium.com/B410P/b410p-user-manual.pdf`
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`09:53.38`	`webman`	`kervel: I really couldn't say without seeing your configs on both ends, plus a debug. However, I know it worked for me when I did it in the past...`
`09:57.03`	`mort_gib`	`webman: They have a sample config for Spain... Where they use poin-to-point...`
`09:57.11`	`webman`	`mort_gib: btw, I see more than one year ago support was "_very_ close" ... http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20080528.213956.c262afa4.en.html`
`09:57.35`	`kervel`	`webman: http://front25.smartlounge.be/configs.txt`
`09:57.38`	`kervel`	`these are configs + debug`
`09:58.33`	`kervel`	`for me it is totally unclear what goes wrong.. the voipuser wiki is quite clear about how iax2 auth works, the error i get should be for either wrong pass either missing iax2 config section. but it doesn't even get upto exchanging the password`
`09:59.12`	`webman`	`which machine is the debug from smartlounge or zeropoint ?`
`09:59.43`	`kervel`	`from smartlounge`
`09:59.55`	`kervel`	`i have no ssh access to zeropoint, but calls smartlounge->zeropoint work ok`
`10:00.00`	`kervel`	`so it looks like a smartlounge config problem`
`10:00.12`	`kervel`	`zeropoint->smartlounge always says "No authority found"`
`10:00.43`	`webman`	`modify on smartlounge "context = smartlounge"`
`10:01.03`	`webman`	`ie, in the iax2.conf for the zeropoint section`
`10:01.30`	`kervel`	`and then i need such a context in extensions.conf too ?`
`10:01.52`	`webman`	`currently even if we ask for a password, zeropoint is not permitted to call to the smartlounge context, and so we don't bother asking for auth`
`10:02.19`	`webman`	`kervel: yes, but you will see a non-existant extension error if that is missing :)`
`10:02.55`	`kervel`	`ah ok, the context from the request should match with context from ...`
`10:03.43`	`kervel`	`webman thanks !! "context smartlounge does not exist" :)`
`10:04.12`	`webman`	`np... if only all probs were so easy...`
`10:04.36`	`kervel`	`:)`
`10:04.46`	`kervel`	`easy ? easy ? i spend 3 hours alraedy :)`
`10:05.05`	`webman`	`kervel: but you are sitting too close to the problem....`
`10:05.25`	`webman`	`I spent 3 hours on my problem also... only to be told it isn't supported :(`
`10:06.15`	`mort_gib`	`3 hours looking into the Dahdi problem??`
`10:08.01`	`kervel`	`webman at least you could solve somebody elses problem in the mean time then :) i just phoned the other side.. works great`
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`10:09.45`	`webman`	`mort_gib: well upgrading from asterisk 1.4 with mISDN (working config) to hitting the current wall with dahdi yes....`
`10:10.13`	`webman`	`mort_gib: I'm trying to work out whether I should just revert to the 1.4 config, or keep trying to get 1.6 to work....`
`10:11.05`	`mort_gib`	`webman: I have some 200 users on various Asterisk systems`
`10:11.51`	`mort_gib`	`webman: ONE of them, a 25 user setup is a bit unstable, so I need to do something, upgrading to 1.6X and to use Dahdi was my idea...`
`10:12.08`	`mort_gib`	`Until I hit the wall of Bri p-t-mp`
`10:14.15`	`webman`	`mort_gib: so did you just roll back ? or are you still working on it ?`
`10:14.30`	`mort_gib`	`webman: I have enough servers to play around....`
`10:14.48`	`mort_gib`	`So still working on it`
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`10:19.08`	`zand3r`	`Hi all... Does anyone have any experience using the Sangoma A500 BRI card?`
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`10:21.37`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Sure`
`10:23.37`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Great.... I'm in the UK (nt sure how much difference that makes) and I am running the latest wanpipe driver, card gets detected, it's configured to work with Asterisk.... incoming and outgoing calls all seem to terminate correctly HOWEVER calls either drop immediately they are answered OR the call is nothing more than the sound of static (although the static adjusts according to the sound being made through the handset).`
`10:24.10`	`mort_gib`	`Asterisk version, wanpipe version`
`10:24.39`	`zand3r`	`Asterisk 1.4.22-3`
`10:25.33`	`mort_gib`	`Wanpipe??`
`10:25.46`	`mort_gib`	`You didn't use the one that came on the CDrom did you??`
`10:26.16`	`zand3r`	`sorry - was just looking up the command.... how do I check that? I used an RPM with the name: wanpipe-modules-2.6.18-92.1.18.el5-3.4.2.3-0.i686.rpm should be the latest`
`10:26.35`	`mort_gib`	`aj, aj aj aj`
`10:26.44`	`mort_gib`	`http://wiki.sangoma.com/wanpipe-linux-drivers#stable`
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`10:27.39`	`mort_gib`	`I would recommend compiling from source...`
`10:29.50`	`webman`	`mort_gib: have you tried 1.6.2.0-beta2 or SVN version ?`
`10:29.59`	`mort_gib`	`No`
`10:30.16`	`mort_gib`	`I'm not going for bleeding edge`
`10:30.19`	`webman`	`from the source it looks like there is additional support in these versions....`
`10:30.34`	`webman`	`obviously, I would prefer to not have bleeding edge also :)`
`10:31.01`	`mort_gib`	`I can't do bleeding, that site is rather unhappy with their asterisk install :-(`
`10:31.19`	`webman`	`is 1.6.2.0 a totally new version compared to 1.6.1.1 ? or is it a small incremental change ?`
`10:31.41`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Thanks... I phoned Sangoma yesterday and the rpm I used is the one their tech support pointed me to. I'm not opposed to compiling from source but if there were known problems with the rpm files for my card I'd hope sangome wouldn;t have pointed me to them.`
`10:31.42`	`webman`	`I forget what the rules are for the version numbers and how bleeding they are`
`10:32.49`	`webman`	`mort_gib: BTW, why is the customer unhappy? What is unstable for them ?`
`10:33.46`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: This might sound like a rediculous question but should there be a red light for both D1 and D2 on the sangoma card.... D1 is lit up bright red... D2 is either much more faint or is just picking up light from D1`
`10:33.58`	`mort_gib`	`TK said that any version like 1.6.1 the last version is important, it should be more than 1`
`10:34.19`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Yes that's quite normal`
`10:34.43`	`webman`	`mort_gib: so 1.6.2.1 will be "stable" ?`
`10:34.46`	`mort_gib`	`My client is unhappy because they have had intermitted dropped calls from the beginning`
`10:35.02`	`mort_gib`	`webman: Not sure, sorry`
`10:35.03`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: I'm stumped then - will try to compile wanpipe driver from source per your suggestion. Thanks.`
`10:35.05`	`webman`	`dropped calls on ISDN ?`
`10:35.17`	`mort_gib`	`Yes, once a week`
`10:35.20`	`mort_gib`	`or so`
`10:35.36`	`mort_gib`	`BUt ISDN to land lines, not IP/IAX/Mobile`
`10:35.42`	`webman`	`and they are using asterisk 1.4.? with mISDN ?`
`10:36.16`	`mort_gib`	`No, 1.4.24.X with Sangoma A500 and wanpipe`
`10:36.30`	`mort_gib`	`Early versions of the driver was not good!!!`
`10:37.04`	`webman`	`so why are you working on the B410p ? or is that a replacement for the A500 ?`
`10:37.39`	`mort_gib`	`webman: I like to keep an open mind, I like to make sure that WHEN asked I know what I'm talking about`
`10:38.06`	`mort_gib`	`The A500 gave me crap, until a certain wanpipe version so I wanted to try the B410P`
`10:38.07`	`webman`	`mort_gib: so B410p + asterisk 1.6 is basically just research for you ?`
`10:38.52`	`mort_gib`	`webman: Sort of, I do plan on replacing the "offending" system with a successfull one`
`10:39.04`	`mort_gib`	`See, locally I compete with Avaya only`
`10:39.39`	`mort_gib`	`So it's easy to get business :-)`
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`10:39.52`	`mort_gib`	`Provifing it works 100%`
`10:53.32`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: I have now checked the Sangoma wiki and can confirm that the RPM i instaled constaing the same (latest stable) wanpipe driver you suggested so that's good. Can you think of anything else that I should look at?`
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`11:05.47`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: wanrouter status`
`11:05.51`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: wanrouter hwprobe`
`11:07.09`	`Zhad`	`I'm trying to debug a clipping issue at the moment.`
`11:07.27`	`Zhad`	`This is using 1.6.0.1, calls are g729 over trunked IAX2`
`11:07.50`	`mort_gib`	`Zhad: Latency`
`11:07.54`	`Zhad`	`Is there any way I can change the timing source used (currently a tdm400p) so I can rule that out?`
`11:08.02`	`Zhad`	`network latency is a solid 18ms.`
`11:08.17`	`Zhad`	`very little variance.`
`11:08.28`	`mort_gib`	`CPU`
`11:08.31`	`Zhad`	`sertaily nothing the jitterbuffer couldn't handle.`
`11:08.38`	`Zhad`	`CPU load is very low too.`
`11:09.06`	`mort_gib`	`try disabling the jitterbuffer`
`11:09.35`	`webman`	`mort_gib: btw, asterisk 1.6.2.0-beta2 doesn't work either - I've logged a request with digium and will see what comes of it...`
`11:09.37`	`Zhad`	`ah, it already is :-)`
`11:09.42`	`Zhad`	`tries turning it back on.`
`11:09.49`	`Zhad`	`probably turned it off when it didn't work.`
`11:10.01`	`mort_gib`	`Timing is not important in sip-asterisk-iax calls`
`11:10.09`	`mort_gib`	`Only in meetme and MOH`
`11:10.15`	`Zhad`	`it is important for trunked IAX though (I gather).`
`11:10.32`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: http://pastebin.com/m5f19dbb8`
`11:10.35`	`mort_gib`	`webman: Okay :-)`
`11:11.00`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Sorry for the delay - I just updated the firmware in the card to V35 incase that was the issue (it didn't help).`
`11:11.36`	`Zhad`	`probably turned it off when it didn't work (a long time ago).`
`11:13.54`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: wanpipe1. and wanpipe2`
`11:15.15`	`Zhad`	`thanks for your help`
`11:15.27`	`Zhad`	`listens to calls to see if it's still happening.`
`11:15.52`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Testing is intermittent... I phone into the asterisk system and it rings absolutely fine. On answering, the line immediately drops most of the time. Just now I phoned and the call answered fine (which does happen occasionally) and the quality was unusable (static in place of voices) BUT interestingly there was ringing (like the call hadn't been answered) in the background even though the connection succeeded and a voice call`
`11:17.09`	`Zhad`	`interesting that an iax2 show channels shows an incoming call with a 40ms lag.`
`11:17.14`	`Zhad`	`but not very interesting`
`11:18.01`	`Zhad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:18.03`	`Zhad`	`that's weird.`
`11:18.10`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Your in UK right??`
`11:18.23`	`mort_gib`	`Zhad: Try another codecs`
`11:19.20`	`Zhad`	`should try moving back to the digium codec, This machien does have enough licenses for it.`
`11:19.59`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: please pastebin you wanpipe1 and wanpipe2`
`11:20.59`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Correct - UK... pasting now`
`11:22.30`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: In that case "Mi config es su config" :-)`
`11:23.26`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: http://pastebin.com/m229cc880`
`11:24.17`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Awesome... nothing better than talking to someone that knows what i'm doing.`
`11:24.34`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: eh maybe I wouldn't go that far :-)`
`11:26.50`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Well, at least we know our lines should be the same spec - I have no idea how things differ in other countries.`
`11:27.22`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: I have a working config from Gibraltar`
`11:27.35`	`mort_gib`	`The Loco telco here has copied BT verbatim`
`11:27.53`	`mort_gib`	`Including the clueless support staff`
`11:28.41`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Brilliant.... and erm... yes, we put a call in to BT to test the line.... hours ago.... the person we spoke to was on training and didn;t register the request properly (we just found out).`
`11:29.09`	`mort_gib`	`http://pastebin.com/d46d6aa65`
`11:29.11`	`Zhad`	`hmm, out of 10 licenses it found 2`
`11:29.18`	`mort_gib`	`Yesterday I had a call from a client`
`11:30.01`	`Zhad`	`in 3 licanses`
`11:30.05`	`Zhad`	`host IDs match in each`
`11:30.09`	`mort_gib`	`He couldn't log into his office using VPN, I go there and after having some trouble I find that A. i can't ping the remote router (not conclusive) B. Traceroute fails miserable`
`11:30.11`	`Zhad`	`feggin thing.`
`11:30.49`	`mort_gib`	`-so I call the Telco, they say that (after 45 min on the phone TRYING to make them understand) that the remote router disconnects every 30 sec`
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`11:31.07`	`WeazelON`	`i lost my web access password for the snom M3 heeeeelp !!!`
`11:32.18`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: looking at your config - other than things like the PCI values it seems we have a different setting for FE_LINE`
`11:33.05`	`mort_gib`	`They put in a service request for another department, that calls me next day, asking me what the problem is... I TRY to make them understand that their own tech found an issue to no avail`
`11:33.42`	`mort_gib`	`RM_BRI_CLOCK = OSC`
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`11:34.58`	`Zhad`	`hmm and register isn't working "could not get categories from digium"`
`11:35.46`	`mort_gib`	`Zhad: Forget about G729 for now, get it to work with the free codecs'`
`11:37.07`	`ramindia`	`iam looking for asterisk programmer for couple of hours work.. PM me for discussing further`
`11:37.27`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: I added the RM_BRI_CLOCK in response to something I read where someone had a similar sounding problem - it didn;t seem to make a difference one way or the other so I'll remove that but that isn't the problem.`
`11:39.30`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: and you don't have any irq conflicts??`
`11:40.37`	`zand3r`	`not that I can tell`
`11:42.16`	`zand3r`	`with irq conflicts I would expect things to just not work at all - no?`
`11:42.20`	`Zhad`	`It's interesting to note that the x64 and x86 versions of register are the same binary.`
`11:43.19`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Further testing.... call dropped on two seperate attempts to dial in... on the third attempt the call ansered and I could hear voices (actually quite clearly) but ringing could be heared in the background and then the call dropped after a few seconds.`
`11:44.13`	`zand3r`	`I suspect the "ringing in the background when the call does actually connect should suggest something - I just don;t know what`
`11:45.58`	`mort_gib`	`Did you try to "reinstall" the driver??`
`11:47.03`	`zand3r`	`yes - I even phoned sangoma yesterday and they confirmed exactly which driver file I should download and exactly what instructions I should use to install it. I'm pretty sure that's fine because originally the A500 wasn't detected (old driver) and then it sprang to life (new driver)`
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`11:47.35`	`leifmadsen`	`Asterisk version 1.4.26-rc2 is now available for download! The release announcement is here: http://www.asterisk.org/node/48599`
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`11:48.44`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: I'd love to blame this on BT but having never worked with ISDN2e before (I've used sangoma cards with ISDN 30 just fine) I don;t have enough knowledge to rule out my end.`
`11:49.45`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: In all fairness, the problem you are having is not related to BT, or I would be surprised if it was`
`11:50.45`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Fair enough - any otherconfigs I can throw your way or any other thoughts? I very much appreciate the assistence btw - don;t think I said but obviously I'm grateful.`
`11:51.34`	`Zhad`	`zand3r> Isn't ISDN2e just BTs name for ETSI-BRI ?`
`11:52.03`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Turn up logging on the driver and look into the sangoma log files`
`11:52.15`	`Zhad`	`should pay attention to this conversation, he's about to get up a system with a sangoma BRI card.`
`11:52.18`	`zand3r`	`Zhad: It's BTs name for BRI as opposed to their ISDN30 which is PRI`
`11:52.30`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Make sure you have connected cables correctly`
`11:52.55`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: ISDN2 has been implemented in far too many flavors`
`11:53.18`	`mort_gib`	`So a Spanish config wont work in Gibraltar....`
`11:54.23`	`Zhad`	`course it won't Gibraltar isn't Telefonica :-)`
`11:55.16`	`zand3r`	`I have one cable..... one end has a single connector which goes to the sangoma card... plugged into the socket lit up with the red LED... the other end splits into two which we've connected (both connectors) to the small BT isdn2e branded box. Fiarly sure the correct way round but we did switch to confirm and it didn;t seem to make any difference.`
`11:55.42`	`zand3r`	`The BT box flashes a green LED when not connected to the sangoma card and has a solid green led when connected to the sangoma card.`
`11:55.53`	`Zhad`	`is the card in the A500 the right way round?`
`11:56.07`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r:that one sangoma card supports two ISDN2 connections, you ONLY plug in ONE of the cables!!`
`11:56.29`	`mort_gib`	`Zhad: No shit :-)`
`11:56.43`	`Zhad`	`common mistake, green side up not red.`
`11:56.53`	`Zhad`	`would probably bugger it though.`
`11:57.04`	`zand3r`	`zhad - I can hear the voice at the other end - on the occassions where the call isn;t dropped on answer - presumably I wouldn't get that far if the card plugged into the A500 was the wrong way round (I didn;t actually plug it in my colleague did)`
`11:57.10`	`Zhad`	`fair enough`
`11:57.17`	`Zhad`	`missed the first bit of this conversation.`
`11:57.35`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: We have 2 ISDN2e lines from BT (i.e. 4 channels) hence connecting both connectors to the one bt box.`
`11:58.05`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: ISDN2 is one circuit per box, unplug one of the cables!!`
`12:00.03`	`Zhad`	`err, but he has 2 circuits.`
`12:00.52`	`mort_gib`	`Zhad: I just wonder, it Euro ISDN right, but they don't do it the same way from country to country`
`12:02.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`mort_gib, IIRC it's not that much different`
`12:02.24`	`mort_gib`	`Zhad: in Gib, you get on box per circuit`
`12:02.40`	`mort_gib`	`So, go unplug cable nr two and try again`
`12:02.48`	`mort_gib`	`tzafrir_laptop: How so??`
`12:03.23`	`zand3r`	`OK.... update..... I unplugged one of the cables (my collegue says one BT box is equal to two circuits (with the option of only having one connected).`
`12:04.19`	`zand3r`	`With one cable disconnected.... I got a "call could not be connected" mesage from BT. I got this a second time... then on my third attempt the call connected.... and it was fine.. i.e. no quality or dropping issues.`
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`12:04.59`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: So something is wrong with how you were connected before`
`12:05.13`	`mort_gib`	`s/is/was`
`12:05.58`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Always start with the cables :-(`
`12:06.27`	`zand3r`	`So..... I reconnected the second cable..... and have made a few calls..... it's still working fine (this time without BT complaining that it couldn't connect)`
`12:07.45`	`zand3r`	`I made no further config changes between you telling me to unplug the second cable and now.`
`12:08.30`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Please reboot without saving your files :-)`
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`12:14.24`	`mort_gib`	`One of my clients is swapping their Outlook based Email solution with a Lotus Notes one... Does anyone know about a asterisk dialer like the one for Outlook??`
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`12:15.24`	`Zhad`	`Lotus notes supports TAPI`
`12:15.38`	`Zhad`	`So should be simpler.`
`12:16.03`	`mort_gib`	`The one I use is not TAPI based`
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`12:16.47`	`mort_gib`	`http://www.voip.com.sg/asterisk/voip_asterisk_outlook_dialer.html`
`12:19.12`	`Zhad`	`that looks really neat`
`12:19.45`	`mort_gib`	`There are issues with Outlook 2007 tho`
`12:20.48`	`Zhad`	`shame`
`12:21.22`	`mort_gib`	`It LOOKS like an AV problem, Avast and Kaspersky causing similar problems, sometimes the plugin is disabled`
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`12:24.01`	`Zhad`	`Of course if it used the windows telephony interface then it would work with a lot of other software (like Lotus).`
`12:24.49`	`mort_gib`	`Don't thik so, you still need the integration with the mailclient's address book`
`12:25.37`	`Zhad`	`Well, Lotus, Act! and Sage will use it.`
`12:26.46`	`mort_gib`	`Hmm, maybe that's the way I have to look...`
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`12:26.58`	`mort_gib`	`Just looked like a lot of hazzle`
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`12:36.09`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Looks like you were spot on.... re-testing now BUT just spoken to BT and although we ordered 2 ISDN2e lines (ie. 4 channels) they've only fitted one.... we just assumed that because the BT box had two sockets and said line1&2 on the front that we plugged both lines from the sangoma card into it.`
`12:37.31`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Yeah I had a few minutes of uncertainty connecting my setup`
`12:38.31`	`mort_gib`	`I was helped because I actually had three boxes for the three lines, and only one with red light...`
`12:38.36`	`mort_gib`	`So it works now??`
`12:39.47`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Just waiting for my colleague to get off the phone so we can properly test but as far as I can tell connecting only one side of the split sangoma cable has resolved all issues! Thanks so much!`
`12:40.01`	`mort_gib`	`Your welcome :-)`
`12:40.28`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: Hopefully all will just work when BT put the second line in and we connect the second half of the split sangoma cable to that but obviously we can't tell that until we have the line.`
`12:41.17`	`mort_gib`	`zand3r: Of course not, but at least you know where to look...`
`12:42.46`	`zand3r`	`mort_gib: If I ever pass through Gibralter (which isn;t actually out of the realms of possibility) I owe you several drinks ! ;)`
`12:43.38`	`mort_gib`	`:-) Yeah, well look me up if you come it's nice here, although warm now!!`
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`12:50.19`	`awk`	`for multi to e-mail: eg SENDTO="user1@xxxxxxxxxx,user2@xxxxxxxxxx,user3@xxxxxxxxxx";`
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`13:10.00`	`gr0mit`	`zand3r, is it all workng now?`
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`13:17.46`	`Katty`	`wibbles.`
`13:22.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`wobbles`
`13:22.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Weebles may wobble but they don't fall down!`
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`13:25.28`	`Katty`	`hello, Agent Todd`
`13:26.03`	`jaytee`	`morning Katty hugs`
`13:26.48`	`Katty`	`hi jaytee :>`
`13:26.52`	`Katty`	`hugs on jaytee`
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`13:28.40`	`jaytee`	`if the Little Engine that Could worked in IT, instead of "I think I can, I think I can" it would have been "Let me get back to you on that, Let me get back to you on that"`
`13:29.46`	`neurosys`	`oh boy :P`
`13:30.54`	`coppice`	`more in the little engine vein it would be "I think there's already a ticket for that"`
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`13:34.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jaytee: I designed a statuette for the "Little Engine that could" with a tag at the bottom saying "We're not paying you to fucking THINK..."`
`13:34.55`	`neurosys`	`ROFL!`
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`13:43.01`	`jnfuller`	`Anyone know the default PRI trunk member hunting sequence when Asterisk does not have groups of channels defined in chan_dahdi.conf?`
`13:43.22`	`Aiatek`	`g1`
`13:43.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:44.12`	`webman`	`jnfuller: asterisk doesn't do hunting if there are no groups... because you can't specify a group of channels without groups...`
`13:44.16`	`neurosys`	`[TK]D-Fender: How long have you been active with *?`
`13:44.29`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: A little over 5 years`
`13:44.31`	`jnfuller`	`So if you don't group then the channel is per channel`
`13:44.39`	`jnfuller`	`and no sequencing applies`
`13:44.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: Channel is always per channel. Group is per group`
`13:45.06`	`Aiatek`	`but it comes by defaault in cha_dahdi.conf`
`13:45.11`	`Aiatek`	`group=1`
`13:45.40`	`jnfuller`	`Only if you're using tools to generate the files. :)`
`13:47.12`	`Aiatek`	`you mean it dosent come by default?`
`13:47.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`"comes by default"... WTF`
`13:47.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Where do you people come up with this stuff?`
`13:48.17`	`jnfuller`	`if you don't make install samples there's zero "defaults" for anything and if you don`
`13:48.37`	`jnfuller`	`don't run gen_craptelconfig or whatever the hell it is`
`13:48.39`	`jnfuller`	`same goes`
`13:48.46`	`Aiatek`	`<[TK]D-Fender> with make samples`
`13:48.53`	`Aiatek`	`i think group=1`
`13:48.58`	`Aiatek`	`its by default`
`13:49.09`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Aiatek: samples != default`
`13:50.03`	`jnfuller`	`samples = cruft, too`
`13:50.58`	`jnfuller`	`that craptel was a typo, by the way... that wasn't meant to be editorial`
`13:51.02`	`Aiatek`	`yes samples =default`
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`13:55.07`	`jnfuller`	`Actually, samples are a demo configuration that is fairly useless.`
`13:55.55`	`Aiatek`	`not for a biginner <jnfuller>`
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`13:56.10`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`jnfuller, they are mostly a reference rather than samples`
`13:56.59`	`Aiatek`	`almost everybody was guided by the samples`
`13:57.03`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`the sample chan_dahdi.conf has nothing enabled by default (except the section [channels] itself)`
`13:58.41`	`Aiatek`	`group=1 comes uncomented by default in chan_dahdi.conf`
`13:58.49`	`Aiatek`	`when you make samples`
`14:06.06`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[09:55]<Aiatek>not for a biginner <jnfuller> <- BS excuse especially for a channel-driver file`
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`14:06.52`	`jnfuller`	`Ok then let me rephrase the original question considering that everyone I run across will have make sampled their asterisk confs... If that is the case but an end user doesn't realize they should dial with a g,G,r,R in their Dial() syntax is there any sort of trunk member selection behaviour or will Asterisk always pick the lowest channel on the span?`
`14:08.00`	`jaytee`	`huh?`
`14:08.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: No such thing as "default".`
`14:08.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: YOU sepcify the channel or group EXPLICITLY`
`14:08.41`	`jaytee`	`g starts at the lowest channel G starts at the highest r and R pretty much the same`
`14:08.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`jnfuller, g: lowest on the group, G - highest on the group, r/R -round-robin`
`14:08.46`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`span != group`
`14:08.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: If you say "a", don't expect "b"`
`14:09.00`	`jnfuller`	`excellent`
`14:09.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: And there is no such thing as dialing per "span"`
`14:09.25`	`Aiatek`	`thats means i was wrong?`
`14:09.40`	`Aiatek`	`it dosent comes uncomented by default group=1?`
`14:09.49`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`(unless you happen to use the configuration generated by dahdi_genconf, which happens to generate per-span groups)`
`14:10.15`	`Aiatek`	`if you dont specified a channel group, group=1 its the default`
`14:10.58`	`jnfuller`	`so tzafrir that still requires specifying the group in the dial syntax to invoke the groups, right?`
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`14:15.09`	`Zhad`	`Still some clipping using alaw throughout.`
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`14:17.05`	`eppigy`	`8[]`
`14:17.11`	`webman`	`I have a backup of my g729 license from 3 years ago (yes, the backup system really does work) but asterisk is saying I have "0/0 encoders/decoders" was there a format change and can I convert it without re-registering? (I can't seem to find my key in my email anywhere)`
`14:18.06`	`Zhad`	`I have 4 licenses that aren't working`
`14:18.08`	`Zhad`	`another 2 that are`
`14:18.16`	`Zhad`	`register isn't working atm either.`
`14:18.26`	`Zhad`	`although that could be because register.digium.com is down`
`14:18.54`	`Zhad`	`the host keys match on my 4 licenses and the machine. (I take it you've checked this on yours too).`
`14:19.53`	`webman`	`zhad: they were originally on this same machine, so no hardware has changed since then...`
`14:20.25`	`Zhad`	`I know, but in the .lic file it will tell you the hardware key and there is a util that is in the same folder as register that will tell you the h/w key of the machine`
`14:20.34`	`Zhad`	`you don't need to change hardware for this to change (annoyingly).`
`14:20.48`	`Zhad`	`things like adding a network interace (like VPN)`
`14:20.59`	`Zhad`	`or using the bonded interface driver will do this too.`
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`14:21.28`	`Zhad`	`I don't think I can re-register those 4 channels of mine anyway (although the h/w key is right, so I shouldn't need to).`
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`14:21.53`	`Zhad`	`it wouldn't suprise m e if compilling/not compiling the ppp interface would do this as well.`
`14:22.26`	`Zhad`	`the licensing scheme is only really any good if you plan on never changing anything about the way your network hardware is reported.`
`14:22.52`	`webman`	`the hardware ID matches the license file`
`14:23.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Aiatek: "comes by default"... WTF <----`
`14:23.01`	`Zhad`	`same problem I'm having then.`
`14:23.23`	`webman`	`is the key-id in the license file the key you give to register the license?`
`14:23.30`	`Zhad`	`yeah`
`14:23.34`	`webman`	`perhaps I don't need to find the damn email !!!`
`14:23.36`	`Zhad`	`It's normally the same as the filename`
`14:23.46`	`webman`	`wow, just wasted 2 hours restoring and grep'`
`14:23.53`	`webman`	`through my old emails....`
`14:25.06`	`Zhad`	`althoguh the register util isn't working (from here). It can't contact the license server.`
`14:26.02`	`Aiatek`	`<[TK]D-Fender> whats your problem`
`14:26.03`	`Aiatek`	`?`
`14:26.12`	`Zhad`	`I think I'll need those 4 reset anyway. (I've already had to re-register once when the network hardware changed).`
`14:26.16`	`webman`	`Wrote license to /var/lib/asterisk/licenses/G729-XXXXXXXX.lic`
`14:26.28`	`webman`	`the register util worked for me just now`
`14:26.34`	`Zhad`	`cool :-)`
`14:26.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Aiatek: that no matter how plainly we keep telling you it doesn't seem to sink in. there is no default.`
`14:27.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Aiatek: Sample configs are precisely that and not intended for production use. Inspiration only.`
`14:27.19`	`Aiatek`	`its like you said`
`14:27.24`	`Aiatek`	`are you happy`
`14:27.33`	`webman`	`yay, it now finds my 1 license :)`
`14:27.49`	`Aiatek`	`you always has the reason`
`14:27.51`	`Zhad`	`dammit, still not working from here`
`14:28.10`	`Zhad`	`do you get a response from 216.207.245.3 ?`
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`14:29.40`	`Zhad`	`odd`
`14:29.54`	`webman`	`I can't ping that IP, what port should I test?`
`14:30.18`	`Zhad`	`does the register util have any weird prerequisites? The same binary works from 2 machines but not a third. (all on different connections).`
`14:30.43`	`Zhad`	`it;s 56 something, don't worry about it, I think it's something wrong with that machine.`
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`14:31.41`	`Zhad`	`it bottoms out straight away with could not get categories from Digium.`
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`14:32.08`	`dacs`	`which group are assigned to *`
`14:32.32`	`Zhad`	`root.`
`14:32.52`	`Zhad`	`sorry, what are you asking?`
`14:33.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: Go caffeinate`
`14:33.40`	`dacs`	`Zhad: am only able to run * as root , but what if i want another normal user to have run * with full privlages`
`14:33.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: there is a chapet in the BOOK on this...`
`14:34.00`	`Zhad`	`saw something about this the other day, can't remember where though.`
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`14:34.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`chapter*`
`14:34.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~book`
`14:34.05`	`infobot`	`[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook`
`14:34.09`	`Zhad`	`That's probably where.`
`14:34.28`	`Corydon76-dig`	`Zhad: if you're on a machine without a net connection, you can call Digium support and they can help you create a license file`
`14:34.38`	`Zhad`	`It has a net connection`
`14:34.47`	`Zhad`	`that's kinda how I'm using it.`
`14:35.42`	`Corydon76-dig`	`Zhad: I just meant if the register utility can't contact the Digium servers, there's a way around that`
`14:35.51`	`Zhad`	`thanks`
`14:36.08`	`Zhad`	`I wouldn't bet that that's the real problem. :-)`
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`14:36.21`	`Thazza`	`Hey All.`
`14:36.29`	`Zhad`	`shame I can't parse a hostid= to it and do it from anothe rmachine.`
`14:36.53`	`Thazza`	`Anyone able to give me a quick hand - shove in the right direction to setup call parking on Asterisk 1.6?`
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`14:39.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Thazza: features.conf sample shows how to setup the lot. just "include => parkedcalls" for your phone's context and do an attended transfer to 700 and it will read back the lot # to dial to retreive`
`14:40.42`	`Aiatek`	`sample ?`
`14:41.12`	`Thazza`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have setup features.conf.. however * does not report back to me with an parkext number.`
`14:42.21`	`jnfuller`	`http://pastebin.com/d2001283d`
`14:42.32`	`Thazza`	`[TK]D-Fender: and also when it sends the call back(i.e after being on hold for long time) how should it parse the string, should it come from the orignal context, with which extention number?`
`14:42.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Thazza: yo need to do an ATTENDED transfer, not a BLIND transfer to get the lot #`
`14:42.50`	`jnfuller`	`maybe this is easier to help explain what I am trying to figure out, the span=x,x,x reference to dialplan`
`14:43.30`	`timeshell_atwork`	`Happy Threesday!!`
`14:43.38`	`timeshell_atwork`	`Which it isn't`
`14:43.42`	`timeshell_atwork`	`Happy Foursday!`
`14:43.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: line # 13 <-`
`14:44.05`	`Aiatek`	`switching laptops brb`
`14:44.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: and system.conf has no impact on the dialplan.`
`14:44.30`	`Zhad`	`Or Thorsday`
`14:44.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: channels usable by dialplan are configured in chan_dahdi.conf`
`14:44.57`	`timeshell_atwork`	`Onesday, Twosday, Threesday, Foursday`
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`14:46.47`	`jnfuller`	`ok so unless you specifically select a group, like in line 18 you're always referencing per-channel in the dialstring so in example line 17 this will always call out on the first trunkgroup member?`
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`14:47.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: no member. no group. No trunk. channel 1 <--- period.`
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`14:49.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: If you have a 4 port card in T1 mode with 4 full PRI's on it, your second span is 25-47 B channels. DAHDI/1 = first channel which happens to be on the first port's PRI.`
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`14:50.40`	`jnfuller`	`ok that is what I was wondering, if the pri driver will always send the call out on the first b-channel when the line 17 example is used`
`14:50.43`	`Thazza`	`[TK]D-Fender: how do you do an ATTENDED transfer when in the middle of a call? this should be *2 if you enable in features.conf ?`
`14:50.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`thaWhat phone are you using.`
`14:51.10`	`mgroman`	`Hi, Trying to troubleshoot an IVR. ztmonitor [channel number] -v shows a little bit of noise on the line BEFORE I call. When I call the line, the "#"s dissappear. Is this a faulty fxo module?`
`14:51.12`	`jnfuller`	`so in that case there's absolutely no hunt sequencing`
`14:51.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Thazza: You should not be using features.conf DTMF transfers unless you have no other choice`
`14:52.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jnfuller: Clearly no. You have explicitly said "this channel". You have groups, and you have individual channels. there is no secondary grouping concept`
`14:53.09`	`Thazza`	`[TK]D-Fender: So the features.conf attended should be commented out? and it is at the phone end to send the ATTENDED transfer request?`
`14:53.12`	`jnfuller`	`thanks, that is exactly what I was trying to figure out, the logical pri port relationship to the dial() syntax`
`14:53.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Thazza: If possible, yes`
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`14:54.22`	`Thazza`	`[TK]D-Fender: do you need to include kK in the dial command?`
`14:54.36`	`dacs`	`~book`
`14:54.37`	`infobot`	`[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook`
`14:55.08`	`dacs`	`am not able to download it , huh ...`
`14:55.16`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Thazza: No.`
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`14:55.45`	`eppigy`	`THIZZLE`
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`14:58.43`	`webman`	`anyone seen a problem where I can dial from my mobile or voip connection, but if I call from PRI -> asterisk b410p with misdn as soon as it "Answer" it disconnects the call? I can't seem to see anything even in the debug.... ?`
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`15:02.39`	`gr0mit`	`hi zand3r did it all work?`
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`15:03.33`	`dacs`	`so whick group do * create`
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`15:06.18`	`zand3r`	`gr0mit: so far so good... combination of a total BT cock up (their system shows 2 lines installed but there's only one) and me not realising that there is one BT box per ISDN line... we had 1 BT box so i assumed we were supposed to use both sockets on it since we expected 2 lines.`
`15:06.30`	`gr0mit`	`aah yes.`
`15:06.48`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: Asterisk doesn't create anything, YOU DO. Go read`
`15:06.48`	`zand3r`	`have shelved it now until BT sort themselves out but should test fine at that point.`
`15:06.49`	`gr0mit`	`i just had my isdn line disconnected and ported to voip!`
`15:07.04`	`Zhad`	`enjoy`
`15:07.43`	`gr0mit`	`zand3r, what asterisk hardware are you using?`
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`15:11.11`	`dacs`	`[TK]D-Fender: what is it with you and reading :)`
`15:12.17`	`dacs`	`[TK]D-Fender: i can't run * as dacs but i can run it as root`
`15:13.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: Because its already cleanly written up. Why should we waste time retyping it line by line by hand because you're being a lazy ass?`
`15:13.09`	`mgroman`	`dacs: * user needs permissions to the hardware in /dev/ perhaps`
`15:13.29`	`zand3r`	`gr0mit: We've used one of the Rhino rack sytems before but this is self built based on an Intel mini-itx board with software raid-1 and the Sangoma A500 card.`
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`15:13.34`	`Aiatek`	`<dacs> one of the last chapters of the books has that information`
`15:13.35`	`zand3r`	`It's been a nightmare but in reality it was all very straightforward bar this underlying problem stemming from BT.`
`15:13.39`	`mgroman`	`dacs: also, * user needs permissions to asterisk startup files, and where the pid file gets written`
`15:13.49`	`xfighter`	`the book has nthn`
`15:13.54`	`xfighter`	`google in better`
`15:13.57`	`gr0mit`	`zand3r, bless 'em!`
`15:13.58`	`xfighter`	`is*`
`15:14.35`	`dacs`	`Aiatek: i am in a class room and for some reason it is not letting me download the book`
`15:14.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: and there are 3 links. Stop with the excuses`
`15:15.00`	`xfighter`	`hehehehe`
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`15:15.33`	`gr0mit`	`anyone use polycom here? am getting stuck - i want to push a message to the screen during a call. anyone got any tips?`
`15:15.46`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`gr0mit: there is no mecahnism for this.`
`15:15.48`	`websae`	`anyone here a DID provider?`
`15:16.06`	`gr0mit`	`websae, uk, ues`
`15:16.10`	`gr0mit`	`yes`
`15:16.53`	`dacs`	`[TK]D-Fender: you are being realy rude, so please if you are not well to talk like human i will appreciate it if you don't reply to me point blank`
`15:17.07`	`mgroman`	`oh no he didnt`
`15:17.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org/en/2nd_Edition/asterisk-book-html-chunk/asterisk-CHP-13-SECT-4.html`
`15:17.21`	`dacs`	`i am only respecting you for the reason that u sound like an old fart`
`15:17.40`	`websae`	`looking for US DIDs mainly :)`
`15:17.40`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: the online version of the book was clearly linked there, it took me under 10 seconds to find the chapter from beginning to end.`
`15:17.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: Your eally aren't trying at all`
`15:17.47`	`gr0mit`	`[TK]D-Fender, am reading the app developners guide`
`15:17.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`really`
`15:18.57`	`xfighter`	`dacs`
`15:19.02`	`xfighter`	`can I help u?`
`15:19.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`LOL`
`15:19.33`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`the blind leading the blind in so many ways... BRILLIANT`
`15:19.51`	`xfighter`	`beethoven lead the whole world`
`15:19.55`	`dacs`	`xfighter: everytime i try to understand * and come to this room , this guy keeps giving me crap`
`15:20.04`	`xfighter`	`I know`
`15:20.09`	`xfighter`	`tell me whats your prob`
`15:20.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`dacs: You refuse to read docs we go so far as to directly link you to.`
`15:20.40`	`dacs`	`[TK]D-Fender: can you please ignor me`
`15:20.55`	`shido6`	`you're fair game if you are in the room`
`15:20.58`	`dacs`	`there is an ingnoreoption here in irssi you might use it`
`15:21.11`	`shido6`	`especially if he was trying to help`
`15:21.21`	`dacs`	`jsut like i did for you`
`15:21.23`	`shido6`	`check your ego at the door`
`15:21.28`	`xfighter`	`[TK]D-Fender : buddy I luv you but if you wanna help people with resources to be read at least give them a descent resource`
`15:21.49`	`xfighter`	`that book is miserable`
`15:21.58`	`mgroman`	`oh`
`15:21.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shido6: Some people you can't hand the answer to. you have to grab their hands and push the buttons on their keyboards for them it seems`
`15:22.15`	`xfighter`	`nope it's not that bad yet`
`15:22.24`	`shido6`	`thats paid support? oops did i say some bad words?`
`15:22.24`	`xfighter`	`but even if there are some people like that`
`15:22.25`	`dacs`	`xfighter: especially when it try to explain how to use sip`
`15:22.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Sorry, we know your 1-day attempt and then failure to even run FREEpBX and expecting support in here for it.`
`15:22.31`	`xfighter`	`push them to love exploring`
`15:22.43`	`xfighter`	`nope`
`15:22.45`	`xfighter`	`am done`
`15:22.51`	`dacs`	`he is an old fart has nothing but time in his hands , propable no wife or kids`
`15:22.54`	`xfighter`	`but am around to gain more experience`
`15:23.18`	`gr0mit`	`[TK]D-Fender, was looking at the polycom Data Push`
`15:23.19`	`xfighter`	`my server is configured and finished`
`15:23.28`	`gr0mit`	`The data push allows you to send messages in XHTML format to a specific`
`15:23.28`	`gr0mit`	`phone.`
`15:23.29`	`dacs`	`is he writting , because i set to ignore him and i will be glad if it actually working`
`15:23.34`	`xfighter`	`but am still interested in the old fashion way`
`15:23.43`	`gr0mit`	`The following format is supported:`
`15:23.43`	`gr0mit`	`<Data priority=X >Y</Data>`
`15:23.44`	`dacs`	`the sea is full of fish you know`
`15:23.53`	`shido6`	`tasty fish`
`15:23.54`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`gr0mit: interesting. I saw a little of that doc, but wasn't sure ont he licensing requirement to do dev on it`
`15:24.24`	`xfighter`	`guyz allow me to say something`
`15:24.31`	`afink`	`How can I check line voltage on fxo ports?`
`15:24.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shido6: 2 words... mercury poisoning :p`
`15:24.36`	`xfighter`	`the asterisk invention is really a big thing`
`15:24.37`	`dacs`	`xfighter: if you are blind , and i can't walk...maybe you carry me ontop of your head and i will show you the way`
`15:24.43`	`xfighter`	`and I really respect its creators`
`15:24.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`afink: Strip the leads and lick it :)`
`15:24.56`	`shido6`	`now im hungry`
`15:25.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bzzz`
`15:25.04`	`xfighter`	`and I wish I was among these folks`
`15:25.16`	`Zhad`	`only kit I ever had that did that was an SPA-3k.`
`15:25.37`	`xfighter`	`and I think these who are supporting us now are maybe one of the creators`
`15:25.49`	`*** join/#asterisk MikeJ (n=MikeJ@freeswitch/developer/mikej)`
`15:25.50`	`xfighter`	`the problem is professor`
`15:25.56`	`*** join/#asterisk luckyaba (n=Lucky@ip72-194-215-55.sb.sd.cox.net)`
`15:25.58`	`xfighter`	`I respect your experience`
`15:25.59`	`gr0mit`	`[TK]D-Fender, licencing shmicencing...`
`15:26.11`	`gr0mit`	`or is it disabled?!`
`15:26.22`	`xfighter`	`but you can't expect everybody to understand everything the way you do`
`15:26.30`	`xfighter`	`not in few days`
`15:26.44`	`xfighter`	`you must give time practice patience`
`15:26.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You purposefully ignore what we tell you to do.`
`15:26.55`	`neurosys`	`Well guys. I'm a n00b and [TK]D-Fender can get very abrasive. But i think he's right on his approach. Some questions i've seen here are really simple to find if searched for.. atleast make the attempt and pay attention to what is told to you. Some people get all pissy when they dont get the exact answer theyre looking for. Atleast take the resources given and LOOK.`
`15:26.58`	`xfighter`	`and the most important , A DESCENT RESOURCE`
`15:27.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And I told you on day 1 that * was not a uitable choice for your stated goal.`
`15:27.30`	`*** join/#asterisk MikeJ (n=MikeJ@freeswitch/developer/mikej)`
`15:27.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`suitable*`
`15:27.31`	`xfighter`	`man I gotta tell u something`
`15:27.42`	`xfighter`	`in fact my seminar isn't the voip itself`
`15:27.59`	`xfighter`	`I was asked to design a softphone of my own`
`15:28.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: And you gave up on doing it the right way on day 1. No functional linux or networking experience and not interested in fixing that.`
`15:28.22`	`kaldemar`	`xfighter: i've never heard anyone call the book miserable before you, quite opposite actually.`
`15:28.22`	`xfighter`	`all I needed is working infrastructure`
`15:28.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You are a quitter.`
`15:28.30`	`neurosys`	`kaldemar: which book is this?`
`15:28.36`	`kaldemar`	`~book`
`15:28.37`	`infobot`	`[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook`
`15:28.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: THE book...`
`15:28.37`	`mgroman`	`What does it mean when ztmonitor doesnt display any "#" on your channel when you call it ?`
`15:28.39`	`kaldemar`	`neurosys: ^^`
`15:28.40`	`xfighter`	`nah if am quitter you wouldn't have seen me around by now`
`15:28.47`	`neurosys`	`Oh. Yes. I have it right here.`
`15:28.50`	`xfighter`	`am not quitter*`
`15:29.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Many ways to quit. handing things over to a click&go GUI is one.`
`15:29.08`	`shido6`	`u do type a lot and your problem is still not fixed`
`15:29.12`	`neurosys`	`Miserable!? Clearly anyone who says that has simply not read it.`
`15:29.26`	`xfighter`	`I did 3 chapters buddy`
`15:29.35`	`xfighter`	`but you guys simply lose it in ch4`
`15:29.45`	`xfighter`	`where the real work begins`
`15:29.49`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: dude. Perhaps you didnt get the 1st 3.`
`15:29.57`	`xfighter`	`you suddenly find yourself on your own`
`15:30.01`	`dacs`	`lunch, bb in an hour`
`15:30.05`	`xfighter`	`and you must learn everything alone`
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`15:30.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: 1 day. thats what you put into this. 1 day.`
`15:30.40`	`xfighter`	`it's been a week man`
`15:30.49`	`xfighter`	`you're not counting well :D`
`15:30.53`	`shido6`	`i started in 2002`
`15:31.03`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: dude. Ive been in here almost a year`
`15:31.09`	`xfighter`	`good`
`15:31.12`	`xfighter`	`learning is good`
`15:31.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: I am... from the point where you could get * installed, to the point where you trashed and reinstalled a GUI distro`
`15:31.32`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: if it was a 1 week edu, then my mother would be a VOIP engineer`
`15:31.39`	`xfighter`	`I respect everybody who calls for science`
`15:31.43`	`xfighter`	`well`
`15:31.54`	`xfighter`	`nowadays servers do not need more than a week`
`15:32.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: "my distro because corrupted".`
`15:32.17`	`xfighter`	`am not sayin that we must learn everything in a week`
`15:32.23`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: You have no idea what you're talking about./ Maybe you're thinking of Windoze servers`
`15:32.26`	`kaldemar`	`xfighter: if you expcet to "learn asterisk" in a week, you're in for a big surprise.`
`15:32.34`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: MS is all he knows`
`15:32.36`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: even they require SOME education`
`15:32.37`	`xfighter`	`I know`
`15:32.52`	`xfighter`	`am not sayin this`
`15:32.55`	`xfighter`	`my idea is`
`15:33.25`	`*** join/#asterisk atis_work (n=atis_wor@193.238.212.171)`
`15:33.46`	`xfighter`	`improving the book quality may increase the popularity of asterisk`
`15:33.52`	`xfighter`	`we have to support the book`
`15:33.58`	`xfighter`	`before supporting the users`
`15:34.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Here's today's reminder for what I told you on day 1. Asterisk is NOT a "VoIP server", and is not suitable as a subject matter for you to GIVE A SEMINAR about such things on.`
`15:34.05`	`xfighter`	`we NEED TO UPDATE IT`
`15:34.30`	`xfighter`	`ok I got it u keep sayin thay`
`15:34.32`	`xfighter`	`that*`
`15:34.35`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: the book is not meant to be a "be all - end all". Its a basic primer. A foundation.`
`15:34.42`	`*** join/#asterisk bullium (n=RAIN\wbr@216.68.250.30)`
`15:34.47`	`xfighter`	`it's like your askin me go and start programming a server of your own`
`15:34.55`	`shido6`	`lol`
`15:35.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: No, I specifically told you to go look at SER`
`15:35.15`	`kaldemar`	`xfighter: take a brief look at SER configuration, and then say that again.`
`15:35.18`	`bullium`	`is there a command that will show me all connected sip exentions?`
`15:35.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kaldemar: see? :)`
`15:35.31`	`neurosys`	`bullium: sip show channels`
`15:35.36`	`xfighter`	`go to CLI`
`15:35.42`	`xfighter`	`and type sip show peers`
`15:36.02`	`xfighter`	`if you don't know how to access cli type Asterisk -r in the console`
`15:36.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kaldemar: Timing is everything :)`
`15:36.21`	`kaldemar`	`[TK]D-Fender: indeed. :)`
`15:36.29`	`mgroman`	`/dev/zap/pseudo ?`
`15:36.30`	`afink`	`Is this bad? wctdm24xxp0: Missed interrupt. Increasing latency to 8 ms in order to compensate`
`15:36.51`	`*** join/#asterisk viraptor (n=viraptor@80.175.164.27)`
`15:36.52`	`bullium`	`neurosys, I want to see all extensions that have logged in...not currently on a call`
`15:36.55`	`*** join/#asterisk KavanS (n=KavanS@static-71-117-242-28.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net)`
`15:36.58`	`afink`	`followed by the same thing except with 9ms`
`15:37.02`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kaldemar: * is a B2BUA and just an interconnecting toolkit, but sometimes you just can't get the poitn across enough it seems...`
`15:37.13`	`neurosys`	`bullium: peers`
`15:37.15`	`xfighter`	`told u sip show peers`
`15:37.51`	`bullium`	`xfighter, lead your comments with my name and I'll look at them next time :)`
`15:37.53`	`neurosys`	`bullium: But i believe you are mix matching the terms`
`15:37.55`	`shido6`	`toolkit`
`15:38.11`	`viraptor`	`is there someone from digium here? I wanted to ask something about g729 licenses`
`15:38.12`	`xfighter`	`:D I'll do it next time`
`15:38.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`shido6: Yeah, I hate people who call * a PBX :)`
`15:38.44`	`xfighter`	`professor you hate pbx perhaps because it makes it easier?`
`15:38.47`	`bullium`	`neurosys, can I somehow filter that list down?`
`15:39.08`	`bullium`	`neurosys, onlys show me extensions that are registered?`
`15:39.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: huh? You don't seem to have read what i jsut said properly`
`15:39.34`	`webman`	`bullium: asterisk -rx 'sip show peers' \| grep -v blah`
`15:39.41`	`*** join/#asterisk Subdolus (n=subby@vulcan.it.cx)`
`15:39.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: * is not a PBX. It is a PBX & Telephony TOOL-KIT`
`15:39.47`	`*** join/#asterisk ariel_ (i=3fd6eca9@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-69aafbaefa731f6a)`
`15:39.55`	`*** join/#asterisk ScarEye (n=scareye@12.27.87.66)`
`15:39.59`	`xfighter`	`yes but it is a pbx`
`15:40.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: No, it isn't`
`15:40.20`	`xfighter`	`is is is :D`
`15:40.20`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: My * makes me COFFEE. How is that a PBX>?`
`15:40.38`	`jaytee`	`Cafe Au PBX?`
`15:40.40`	`xfighter`	`what?`
`15:40.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`goes and makes a jukebox out of *.`
`15:41.07`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: my * calls my PO for me and gives me my report status of the day ;)`
`15:41.29`	`xfighter`	`very funny`
`15:41.31`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: then emails me and sends me a text`
`15:41.43`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: Who says i was joking?`
`15:41.46`	`xfighter`	`well that can be managed`
`15:41.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: I'm not joking either`
`15:41.50`	`bullium`	`webman, thanks that works. You can't do that from within the cli itself hugh?`
`15:42.06`	`neurosys`	`bullium: there is a LIKE pattern i believe`
`15:42.06`	`xfighter`	`the problem guys`
`15:42.07`	`ariel_`	`xfighter: my asterisk controls my lights and I can call it and turn off lights in the house as well.`
`15:42.14`	`webman`	`bullium: no... the cli doesn't support grep... you do it from a shell`
`15:42.21`	`neurosys`	`bullium: type "sip show peers" then hit the TAB key`
`15:42.22`	`xfighter`	`you're so skilled and you expect new comers to have the same level`
`15:42.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Flour is not a cake, it is just a possible ingredient.`
`15:42.38`	`SuPrSluG`	`oh yeah my * goes to the bathroom for me`
`15:42.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: You stoped reading, started arguing, and then went "GUI". No mercy for you, sorry...`
`15:42.50`	`SuPrSluG`	`ok i'm lyin'`
`15:42.56`	`bullium`	`neurosys, the screen blinks on the tab press...guess there are no other commands`
`15:43.03`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: as a n00b myself, i can vouch he does not think that way. However, he expects you to use your noodle and try before you ask to be hand held.`
`15:43.04`	`bullium`	`neurosys, arguments rather`
`15:43.05`	`webman`	`ariel_: what country are you in, and what control interface do you use (X10?)`
`15:43.09`	`neurosys`	`bullium: what version?`
`15:43.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`webman: tahts how my * makes me coffee <-`
`15:43.26`	`bullium`	`neurosys, Asterisk C.2.3.3`
`15:43.34`	`ariel_`	`webman: US and yes x10`
`15:43.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`webman: CM11A`
`15:43.59`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`webman: Also buzzes people through the front door at my office`
`15:44.08`	`neurosys`	`bullium: :( i'm on 1.6 .... i didnt know there was a 2.3.3`
`15:44.10`	`ariel_`	`ABE is different then normal asterisk.`
`15:44.19`	`xfighter`	`however I have some questions to ask.....`
`15:44.28`	`ariel_`	`C 2.3.3 is ASterisk Biz`
`15:44.30`	`webman`	`I've always been very interested in these things (even before asterisk) but I've yet to find any cheap enough, and locally available (Australia)`
`15:44.40`	`neurosys`	`ariel_: ohhhh. beyond me :(`
`15:44.42`	`*** join/#asterisk Ryushin (i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com)`
`15:44.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`webman: you'd think being closer to China would make them more cheaply available there...`
`15:45.07`	`xfighter`	`if freepbx is based on * why doesn't it follow the steps we must do without it`
`15:45.16`	`xfighter`	`I mean I checked sip.conf`
`15:45.20`	`xfighter`	`extension.conf`
`15:45.22`	`webman`	`I think the like is only in the newer versions (maybe 1.6) but ABE tends to use older versions...`
`15:45.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: FreePBX is not based on . freePBX is a configuration tool for .`
`15:45.23`	`ariel_`	`xfighter: it does`
`15:45.26`	`bullium`	`neurosys, no worries, webman's suggestions works great`
`15:45.27`	`xfighter`	`they're empty`
`15:45.29`	`ariel_`	`just adds some more things to it`
`15:45.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: It is not made FROM Asterisk, it is made FOR it.`
`15:45.37`	`coppice`	`[TK]D-Fender the US is closer to China than Australia is`
`15:45.46`	`*** join/#asterisk CunningPike (n=CunningP@204.239.10.119)`
`15:45.50`	`xfighter`	`ok`
`15:45.50`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`coppice: I'm not talkin' Palin here :p`
`15:45.58`	`webman`	`has no idea who is closer to china :)`
`15:46.08`	`xfighter`	`if we wanna create an extension manually we modify extension.conf`
`15:46.12`	`coppice`	`LA is closer to China than australia`
`15:46.15`	`xfighter`	`but freebx doesn't`
`15:46.17`	`xfighter`	`WHY?`
`15:46.19`	`ariel_`	`xfighter: not in freepbx`
`15:46.27`	`xfighter`	`and how does it work!!?`
`15:46.31`	`webman`	`but I think the main problem is the different voltage (240V) and the small population (market)`
`15:46.39`	`ariel_`	`you have extensions_custom.conf`
`15:46.53`	`ariel_`	`this one is the one you can edit`
`15:46.53`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Go ask them.`
`15:46.53`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: because they are FORKs. They have NEW ways of doing things`
`15:47.01`	`ariel_`	`xfighter: you might get better help for freepbx at #freepbx`
`15:47.01`	`kaldemar`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S0Fj3B_ll0`
`15:47.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: * builds the * configs INCLUDING extensions.conf`
`15:47.02`	`xfighter`	`so they do it in a different way ??`
`15:47.23`	`kaldemar`	`webman: who is`
`15:47.27`	`xfighter`	`where do they keep the newly created extensions`
`15:47.33`	`xfighter`	`this is what am learning`
`15:47.41`	`xfighter`	`how do they create these stuff`
`15:47.43`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: quite the same way linux distros have their own ways of doing things. The only thing that remains the same is the core.`
`15:47.53`	`xfighter`	`if I learn that It'll be easy for me to do it the manual way`
`15:47.56`	`*** part/#asterisk viraptor (n=viraptor@80.175.164.27)`
`15:48.15`	`webman`	`kaldemar: AUS uses 240V AC and has a small population/market`
`15:48.24`	`ariel_`	`xfighter: it's kept in the extensions_additional.conf file but it gets over writen when you do changes via the gui`
`15:48.30`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: No, it won't. Thinking you can break down what they do as an easier way to learn * is BS>`
`15:48.43`	`coppice`	`webman: australia uses both the same voltage and the same plugs as china`
`15:48.47`	`kaldemar`	`webman: i was referring to the youtube link i posted a few lines earlier. :) who's in china. :P`
`15:49.10`	`xfighter`	`[TK]D-Fender : this is the GAP between me and *`
`15:49.16`	`xfighter`	`extensions and dialplans`
`15:49.35`	`xfighter`	`anything that has anything to do with .conf files`
`15:49.35`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: My advice. Learn ASTERISK, VOIP and Telephony. Then you can learn the asterisk offspring if you so choose.`
`15:49.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: First is your complete misunderstanding on what an 'extension" is.`
`15:49.53`	`*** join/#asterisk bakermd (n=bakermd@38.101.225.215)`
`15:50.01`	`webman`	`coppice: really... then I certainly would think we should be able to get some cheap stuff .... unless of course it is the red tape (certification) that is the problem ?`
`15:50.07`	`Zhad`	`interestingly the product name is different in the older G.729 license file (that doesn't work anymore).`
`15:50.13`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: read the book. don't understand it? Reread it till you do.`
`15:50.21`	`xfighter`	`:D`
`15:50.42`	`xfighter`	`neurosys : do you have the book right now`
`15:50.45`	`webman`	`xfighter: or ask intelligent questions about the bits you don't understand and people will help you...`
`15:50.45`	`Zhad`	`older one is called Digium-G729 newer one is called G.729 Codec`
`15:50.48`	`xfighter`	`I wanna talk to you about something`
`15:50.49`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: I read that book knowing jack about voip or asterisk.`
`15:50.57`	`xfighter`	`goooooooood`
`15:51.05`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: yes. I have the boook right next to me matter of fact.`
`15:51.05`	`xfighter`	`and you didn't ask about anything at all?`
`15:51.12`	`xfighter`	`good`
`15:51.21`	`*** join/#asterisk war9407 (i=war@liquidswords.org)`
`15:51.21`	`xfighter`	`I'll give u a page number`
`15:51.28`	`*** join/#asterisk docelmo (n=chatzill@65.114.160.138)`
`15:51.48`	`Zhad`	`So that's probable what's wrong, they changed the feggin name in the key.`
`15:51.49`	`docelmo`	`Say can anyone tell me if there is a rule on the books for calling toll free numbers from a toll free ANI/CallerID Number? Well more specific a rule that says you cant?`
`15:52.02`	`xfighter`	`neurosys : Page 82`
`15:52.14`	`xfighter`	`are you there?`
`15:52.44`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: ok?`
`15:52.51`	`*** join/#asterisk s14ck (n=s14ck@ccscliente156.ifxnetworks.net.ve)`
`15:53.01`	`xfighter`	`good`
`15:53.13`	`xfighter`	`look at sip.conf contents in the book example`
`15:53.19`	`xfighter`	`so few nice lines there`
`15:53.25`	`xfighter`	`it makes u optimistic`
`15:53.33`	`xfighter`	`now u tell me`
`15:53.46`	`xfighter`	`how many lines are there in your sip.conf files`
`15:53.56`	`*** join/#asterisk techie33 (n=hanford2@209.234.197.86)`
`15:54.12`	`docelmo`	`Mine? hehe.. couple thousand`
`15:54.14`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: dude. are you serious? What does the VERY NEXT LINE after that simple sip.conf say!?`
`15:54.22`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: THE VERY NEXT LINE`
`15:54.26`	`webman`	`xfighter: sip.conf is very well documented generally... and if you don't understand the options, then usually you just copy n paste an example from www.voip-info.org ...`
`15:54.44`	`*** join/#asterisk war9407 (i=war@liquidswords.org)`
`15:54.47`	`xfighter`	`copy and paste`
`15:54.50`	`techie33`	`G'Morning guyz, I'm having an issue when I call a customer and I get their vm I get a reorder message on my phone. What would cause that?`
`15:54.52`	`xfighter`	`you call that learning?`
`15:55.09`	`webman`	`xfighter: I call that getting the job done...`
`15:55.11`	`techie33`	`everything was good until a reboot lastnight on the server.`
`15:55.12`	`neurosys`	`This config is "Not pretty, not secure, not flexible, not fully-featured, but this will work"`
`15:55.23`	`xfighter`	`ok I know`
`15:55.27`	`xfighter`	`now tell me`
`15:55.39`	`xfighter`	`how did you learn how to customize you sip.conf file`
`15:55.40`	`webman`	`xfighter: you don't need to understand every bug in every version of firmware for every SIP device in order to use asterisk well ....`
`15:55.44`	`xfighter`	`in reliable way`
`15:56.06`	`webman`	`xfighter: by reading voip-info.org + sip.conf ....`
`15:56.13`	`kaldemar`	`xfighter: by reading the sample configuration file that comes with the source package.`
`15:56.31`	`xfighter`	`hmmmm interesting kaldemar`
`15:56.34`	`webman`	`xfighter: oh, and of course many test/change/test iterations`
`15:56.35`	`docelmo`	`What is this person trying to do? SIP.CONF isnt complicated..`
`15:56.36`	`xfighter`	`very interesting`
`15:56.49`	`xfighter`	`so one line description was enough for you to understand everything`
`15:56.50`	`docelmo`	`extensions.conf(.ael) those can get complicated`
`15:56.54`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: the book is 500 pages long. And you're expecting a learners book to give you everything at page 82!?`
`15:57.03`	`kaldemar`	`xfighter: what one line description?`
`15:57.12`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: what kind of computing are you used to? Nintendo?`
`15:57.16`	`webman`	`xfighter: at the end of the day sip.conf is just a username/password authentication file.... with a couple of other options`
`15:57.34`	`xfighter`	`well each line is commented with a simple sentence only was enough for you to understand everything there?`
`15:57.41`	`*** join/#asterisk xpot-mobile (n=james@static-66-182-88-85.bbsc.net)`
`15:57.42`	`docelmo`	`webman I beg to differ you can do IP auth only also`
`15:57.51`	`kaldemar`	`xfighter: so you haven't read it?`
`15:57.53`	`webman`	`in most cases you don't need to change very much in sip.conf ....`
`15:57.58`	`xfighter`	`no but when I decide to learn something`
`15:58.03`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: There is a decent index of sip.conf syntax in the end of that book`
`15:58.07`	`xfighter`	`it's either I learn everything or learn nthn`
`15:58.12`	`*** join/#asterisk SlipperyChicken (n=andrew@LONDON14-1168107385.sdsl.bell.ca)`
`15:58.20`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: learn everything means you read the entire book`
`15:58.35`	`webman`	`xfighter: then you should start with the asterisk source code, not the book :) learn it properly....`
`15:58.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`kaldemar: webman Lol`
`15:58.43`	`neurosys`	`webman: heh`
`15:58.59`	`Zhad`	`figures, can't contact support because it was bought so long ago that It isn't associated with the user.`
`15:59.00`	`xfighter`	`it's not a bad idea`
`15:59.14`	`xfighter`	`time is the problem thats all`
`15:59.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Sure it is...`
`15:59.26`	`neurosys`	`webman: include <blah.h> - xfighter: shit! This doesnt teach me crap! :P`
`15:59.32`	`Zhad`	`tries support@ :-)`
`15:59.43`	`kaldemar`	`xfighter: if you haven't even taken a look at sip.conf, where did you come up with the one line descriptions?`
`15:59.43`	`webman`	`Zhad: you still fighting g729 ?`
`15:59.52`	`Defraz`	`So you learn what you can in the time you have.`
`16:00.02`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: education is a process grasshopper. this isnt the matrix when you jack in and 1 min later you know kung-fu`
`16:00.12`	`xfighter`	`I did see it kaldemar`
`16:00.15`	`webman`	`is glad he isn't xfighter's employer`
`16:00.18`	`Defraz`	`lol`
`16:00.21`	`neurosys`	`ha`
`16:00.33`	`xfighter`	`webman you need to read the book more than I do`
`16:00.45`	`xfighter`	`don't keep on pasting from voip-info`
`16:00.53`	`neurosys`	`is finding this very amusing`
`16:01.00`	`xfighter`	`someday you may find that website down or sold`
`16:01.08`	`layne`	`xfighter, I have been watching you for days in here now complaining`
`16:01.18`	`xfighter`	`am not`
`16:01.21`	`layne`	`go RTFM, learn linux, and come back`
`16:01.22`	`xfighter`	`am happy :D now`
`16:01.22`	`webman`	`xfighter: I've never read the book, yet I manage a couple of small (very small) telco asterisk servers, and a number of SME asterisk systems...`
`16:01.26`	`layne`	`it has gotten old`
`16:01.26`	`xfighter`	`I have no complains`
`16:01.27`	`docelmo`	`is confused.. Who is the acting newb here?`
`16:01.42`	`xfighter`	`experience is good`
`16:01.49`	`xfighter`	`webman`
`16:02.07`	`xfighter`	`it's better than 98756309120390897326 books`
`16:02.26`	`webman`	`xfighter: voip-info.org has been down in the past... sure it sux when a good reference isn't available ... (I presume you memorise everything because one day you might lose your books?`
`16:02.36`	`docelmo`	`Ohh its xfighter dude.. Hit the WIKI get the book its FREE FOR GOD SAKE! and google.. Then come here and ask questions..`
`16:02.55`	`xfighter`	`hahahaha`
`16:02.59`	`xfighter`	`am popular guyz`
`16:03.19`	`layne`	`telephreak has a voip-info mirror just as an FYI if anyone ever needs it http://www.telephreak.org/voip-info/index-2.html`
`16:03.23`	`webman`	`xfighter: of course, and the best way to get experience is to do it instead of "learning everything" and never implementing....`
`16:03.57`	`xfighter`	`who says am not implementig :D`
`16:04.07`	`docelmo`	`webman, wait till he is asking questions about AGI`
`16:04.14`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: pal. I learned most of the basic of asterisk SIMPLY with that book. Alone. No computer. No internet, no phone! (I was in prison for 5 years!) and [TK] will tell you atleast i had something on the ball when i 1st got onto this channel. So if you cant learn SOMETHING from that book, perhaps you should go back to the PS2`
`16:04.45`	`xfighter`	`I shall go to prison then :D`
`16:04.50`	`docelmo`	`neurosys: I almost want to ask what for`
`16:04.56`	`webman`	`docelmo: first he will need to learn everything about PHP/perl/C/bash/whatever :)`
`16:04.57`	`xfighter`	`this is how I can repeat the book 4 times`
`16:05.00`	`neurosys`	`docelmo: federal weps violation.`
`16:05.02`	`xfighter`	`I might understand it later`
`16:05.29`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: go get an old box. Install linux and asterisk. Read book. Play. Get cheap ITSP account. LEARN`
`16:05.46`	`docelmo`	`webman: true.. I mean I am one of the PHPAGI dev's we make it easy but you still need to have somewhat of a clue`
`16:05.56`	`xfighter`	`I AM`
`16:06.04`	`xfighter`	`I have 9 computers at home`
`16:06.05`	`docelmo`	`You are what?`
`16:06.10`	`xfighter`	`4 laptops and 5 desktops`
`16:06.17`	`docelmo`	`Do you want a cookie?`
`16:06.25`	`xfighter`	`and am doin my best to understand this damn science`
`16:06.39`	`docelmo`	`I have 200 workstations and 95 servers I manage at my office.. big w00p..`
`16:06.52`	`docelmo`	`xfighter: do you understand networking?`
`16:06.53`	`xfighter`	`no I have them at home not work`
`16:06.56`	`docelmo`	`OSI model?`
`16:07.02`	`xfighter`	`I CAN TEACH YOU`
`16:07.07`	`layne`	`heh`
`16:07.08`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: is that so.`
`16:07.11`	`afink`	`smells a troll`
`16:07.14`	`webman`	`docelmo: never really saw the much advantage to the PHPAGI (but that was a long time ago when I looked at it)... talking AGI didn't seem that hard compared to talking directly to a GSM modem, or any other similar device :)`
`16:07.31`	`xfighter`	`in fact we're implementing a wimax spot these days`
`16:07.38`	`xfighter`	`you know wimax?`
`16:07.46`	`Aiatek`	`<docelmo> he is an GPS master Xpert with Networking degree`
`16:07.50`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: you read that in PC world?`
`16:07.50`	`docelmo`	`webman: ya.. its just STDIN and STDOUT but the class makes it relativly simple..`
`16:08.13`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Aiatek: If only he could find a CLUE`
`16:08.14`	`docelmo`	`Im a what?`
`16:08.14`	`xfighter`	`heh :D I deal with it daily bro`
`16:08.24`	`webman`	`heard a funny comment from a brain surgeon client recently "You know so much about computers, but it seems so hard"`
`16:08.50`	`webman`	`I replied that "some people think brain surgery is hard"`
`16:08.56`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: Impressive. If you're on the forefront of installing WiMax, then Im putting my money in LTE`
`16:09.08`	`beek`	`WTF xfighter -- aren't you any further along than when we chatted on Jan 28?`
`16:09.16`	`neurosys`	`LOLOLOL!`
`16:09.28`	`neurosys`	`passes out laughing`
`16:09.29`	`xfighter`	`sorry beek`
`16:09.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`beek: chan_regression.so`
`16:09.32`	`xfighter`	`I can't remember`
`16:09.55`	`docelmo`	`ohh lord..`
`16:09.56`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`beek: dacs is in the exact same boat. Right back to square one.`
`16:10.08`	`mgroman`	`webman: rocket surgery is hard`
`16:10.08`	`webman`	`anyway, thanks for the fun and the help... gotta go get some sleep....`
`16:10.26`	`xfighter`	`but we might did , I came here before but my questions were very general`
`16:10.47`	`docelmo`	`hmmmm`
`16:11.02`	`techie33`	`G'Morning guyz, I'm having an issue when I call a customer and I get their vm I get a reorder message on my phone. What would cause that?`
`16:11.08`	`docelmo`	`They still are general? SIP.CONF? Good lord..`
`16:11.09`	`Aiatek`	`he has the science in his blood but he has blood preasure problems`
`16:11.18`	`techie33`	`the call is dropped on my side i guess?`
`16:11.29`	`*** join/#asterisk Sargun (n=Sargun@atarack/Staff/Sargun)`
`16:11.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techie33: Are youl ooking at the call being processed?`
`16:11.44`	`techie33`	`yes`
`16:11.45`	`docelmo`	`techie33: have you done any tracing of the call?`
`16:11.52`	`xfighter`	`[TK]D-Fender : wanna ask about a linux thing`
`16:11.54`	`techie33`	`I see a cancel message`
`16:12.09`	`xfighter`	`can I give more than one ip for the same interface eth0??`
`16:12.15`	`techie33`	`CSeq: 102 CANCEL`
`16:12.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techie33: Coming from which end?`
`16:12.24`	`docelmo`	`xfighter: your kidding right?`
`16:12.28`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`xfighter: Go ask in a linux support channel`
`16:12.35`	`docelmo`	`GOOGLE for Linux ETH ALIASES!`
`16:12.35`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: this is a basic networking issue.`
`16:12.37`	`techie33`	`can I pm you and post the SIP debug to you?`
`16:12.45`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techie33: ....`
`16:12.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~pb`
`16:12.47`	`infobot`	`[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste , or , http://bin.cakephp.org/`
`16:12.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`^^^^^^^^`
`16:12.56`	`xfighter`	`am new to linux docelmo`
`16:13.12`	`layne`	`xfighter, the linux documentation project has that topic covered`
`16:13.13`	`docelmo`	`xfighter: ok learn linux then tackle asterisk`
`16:13.14`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: linux isnt the issue. This is networking 101`
`16:13.17`	`docelmo`	`not the other way around`
`16:13.24`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`docelmo:"the book sucks" <- Yup... doesn't understand Linux either`
`16:13.45`	`xfighter`	`the book sucks prof :D`
`16:13.53`	`docelmo`	`[TK]D-Fender: haha.. You know I miss coming around.. There is always one that gives me a good laugh`
`16:14.14`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: regardless of the interface, an INTERFACE get 1 IP, unless you declare ALIASES FOR THAT INTERFACE`
`16:14.29`	`docelmo`	`xfighter: the book if you are referring to the one with the starfish is one of the best resources for asterisk next to the wiki`
`16:14.30`	`xfighter`	`thanx neurosys`
`16:14.37`	`Aiatek`	`<xfighter> why dont you write a book about asterisk ?`
`16:14.40`	`techie33`	`TK posted on pastebin.com`
`16:14.42`	`neurosys`	`xfighter: But as a WiMax engineer, you already knew that no?`
`16:14.50`	`xfighter`	`I may do it Aiatek`
`16:15.13`	`Aiatek`	`asterisk in wonderland ?`
`16:15.17`	`xfighter`	`sorry am an MS expert`
`16:15.18`	`docelmo`	`Who's a wimax engineer?`
`16:15.31`	`neurosys`	`Aiatek: "Asterisk picks up my tele.. so i can call my girly... so she can say im silly... and go screw billy"`
`16:15.50`	`neurosys`	`docelmo: Mr xfighter claims to install WiMax solutions`
`16:15.50`	`beek`	`Ahhh... so now the truth comes out: "sorry am an MS expert"`
`16:15.54`	`xfighter`	`next time say somethi chilly`
`16:16.02`	`layne`	`ip aliases exist with MS as well`
`16:16.12`	`Aiatek`	`running asterisk in MS with Putty`
`16:16.15`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techie33: Don't make me go look for it..`
`16:16.18`	`Aiatek`	`could be`
`16:16.33`	`xfighter`	`yea`
`16:16.39`	`docelmo`	`neurosys: I like Barrak Obama also know what to do if I was in the white house`
`16:16.41`	`xfighter`	`I know how to do it in MS systems`
`16:16.55`	`Aiatek`	`uhmmm`
`16:16.56`	`afink`	`xfighter: your an ms expert? really?`
`16:16.58`	`docelmo`	`I mean seriously..`
`16:17.07`	`layne`	`if you search for ip aliases and linux etc, there are a lot of resources that come up`
`16:17.16`	`xfighter`	`am on it`
`16:17.18`	`docelmo`	`He doesnt get the basics.. Why not just fess up say your a newb and get on with it.`
`16:17.26`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`layne: that would involve reading... he's not a "reading expert".`
`16:17.28`	`xfighter`	`it's just that you guyz use the console for everything`
`16:17.36`	`docelmo`	`Go get asterisk now or elastix or something`
`16:17.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`docelmo: He's already done that`
`16:17.54`	`neurosys`	`[TK]D-Fender: or "learning expert" for that matter`
`16:17.56`	`docelmo`	`ok where's the problem?`
`16:17.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`docelmo: Should have seen how he asked for help on how to use FreePBX alst night`
`16:18.00`	`layne`	`[TK]D-Fender, you are right. I guess I was silly to think that reading would help one with asterisk/linux/etc =p`
`16:18.01`	`*** join/#asterisk icyValk77 (n=icyValk7@host217-43-31-121.range217-43.btcentralplus.com)`
`16:18.02`	`beek`	`... and can't even get those to work.`
`16:18.02`	`docelmo`	`hahaha`
`16:18.07`	`Aiatek`	`what is de difference between WINS and DNS <xfighter>?`
`16:18.25`	`docelmo`	`How do you screw up book from CD follow instructions and then reboot?`
`16:18.29`	`docelmo`	`I mean seriously`
`16:18.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`docelmo: this is after being told repeatedly that it wasn't supported here`
`16:18.41`	`xfighter`	`step by my place and I'll explain it to you :D`
`16:18.56`	`beek`	`docelmo: Not point-and-clicky enough and no wizards`
`16:19.03`	`neurosys`	`Aiatek: WINS is for connecting networks to the "Wynns" casinos and "DNS" and for my DSL light to come on my little AT&T modem .. right? :P`
`16:19.05`	`docelmo`	`beek: true..`
`16:19.16`	`Aiatek`	`he is in google right now`
`16:19.18`	`xfighter`	`oh no let me answer u in the same way folks here answer those who come to ask`
`16:19.19`	`Aiatek`	`hehehehe`
`16:19.19`	`neurosys`	`lol`
`16:19.28`	`*** join/#asterisk marv[work] (n=timr@router.asteriasgi.com)`
`16:19.32`	`xfighter`	`download the book or google it :D`
`16:19.37`	`Aiatek`	`wait <neurosys> , we need and xpert`
`16:19.45`	`neurosys`	`AH . good thinking ;`
`16:19.48`	`docelmo`	`xfighter: yes.. Consider this channel Tier 2 when all else fails..`
`16:19.54`	`*** join/#asterisk war9407 (i=war@liquidswords.org)`
`16:19.58`	`docelmo`	`That was one of the first asterisk 101's at astricon..`
`16:20.30`	`beek`	`Tier 2 = "Doesn't need instructions for booting the computer"`
`16:20.40`	`docelmo`	`hehe`
`16:20.59`	`docelmo`	`doesnt need instructions for loggin into linux w/o GNOME`
`16:21.08`	`docelmo`	`or Xwindows for that matter`
`16:21.10`	`techie33`	`[TK]D-Fender: did you get that?`
`16:21.34`	`layne`	`they aren't trying to make it hard for you xfighter, they are trying to show you the proper way to learn asterisk`
`16:21.42`	`ramindia`	`how can convert speech to data and store in to Database using Asterisk ?`
`16:21.48`	`neurosys`	`docelmo: whats GNOME. OH! You mean Linux Windows? :P`
`16:21.49`	`layne`	`if you know how to do it without a GUI, you can do it no matter what scenario you are faced with`
`16:21.58`	`xfighter`	`guyz answer ramindia`
`16:22.00`	`*** join/#asterisk DarthPointer (n=no@82.218.68.216.DED-DSL.fuse.net)`
`16:22.03`	`xfighter`	`it's one of my questions`
`16:22.16`	`*** join/#asterisk zand3r (n=zand3r@94-195-193-127.zone9.bethere.co.uk)`
`16:22.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techie33: Cisco seems to have cancelled`
`16:22.25`	`docelmo`	`ramindia: its a little more advanced than this channel will allow`
`16:22.33`	`xfighter`	`hahahahaha`
`16:22.44`	`ramindia`	`docelmo: : means ?`
`16:22.49`	`*** join/#asterisk grandpapadot (n=no@99-175-248-81.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net)`
`16:22.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ramindia: what KIND of "data"?`
`16:23.09`	`Qwell`	`[TK]D-Fender: speech data`
`16:23.13`	`docelmo`	`ramindia: You will need to do custom scripts and such.. Unless you are talking voicemail. Then you just enable ODBC you can find it on the WIKI`
`16:23.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`ramindia: Stored how? into a data`
`16:23.22`	`grandpapadot`	`Hi all. I'm working with the 1.4 Pickup() application. It works well, but in cases where pickup fails, does anyone know if there's a way to check so I can play Congestion()?`
`16:23.28`	`Qwell`	`he wants speech-to-text..`
`16:23.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Qwell: Silly goose :P`
`16:23.31`	`ramindia`	`yes numbers`
`16:23.34`	`techie33`	`[TK]D-Fender: that's weird that was a test call to my cell if I press the end key which forces the call to VM then I get voicemail on my cell, but if I let the call timeout, when it rolls to voicemail on the cell phone it gives me the reorder.`
`16:23.55`	`ramindia`	`take example..if other side voice says call balance is 100$ store that data in to Database`
`16:23.56`	`afink`	`ramindia: how about .wav file, leave a voicemail and bam its done`
`16:24.15`	`afink`	`hmm, good luck with that`
`16:24.26`	`ramindia`	`afink: how does that work ?`
`16:24.33`	`docelmo`	`ramindia: sorry.. You are looking for TTS?`
`16:24.42`	`neurosys`	`Asterisk Book + -xfighter- VERSION mIRC v6.16 Khaled Mardam-Bey <---- Ok. Was wondering how he managed to get here.`
`16:24.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`docelmo: Opposite`
`16:24.45`	`Qwell`	`docelmo: other way around`
`16:24.47`	`ramindia`	`docelmo: yes`
`16:25.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: Oh, he's also using MS IE <-`
`16:25.08`	`neurosys`	`sighs`
`16:25.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`neurosys: Plenty SMRT`
`16:25.09`	`docelmo`	`ramindia: you have 100 in the DB and you want a voice to say the data in the DB?`
`16:25.12`	`Qwell`	`ramindia: depending on how much you want to do, you should plan on spending a few hundred thousand dollars.`
`16:25.22`	`Qwell`	`docelmo: you're backwards :p`
`16:25.24`	`ramindia`	`docelmo: no`
`16:25.51`	`neurosys`	`ramindia: I tried the LumenVox Starter Kit. 50 bucks. works quite well`
`16:25.55`	`docelmo`	`So you want to record what someone is saying and stick that audio in a database?`
`16:26.01`	`ramindia`	`docelmo: asterisk call calling card server, and send DTMF then i get voice card balance is so many $$ then capture that and store in database`
`16:26.30`	`ramindia`	`DTMF is PIN`
`16:26.42`	`docelmo`	`But you want to store the audio?`
`16:26.45`	`docelmo`	`correct?`
`16:27.00`	`Qwell`	`docelmo: he wants to store "$100" in text`
`16:27.03`	`ramindia`	`docelmo: no audio, that number card balance is so many $$`
`16:27.52`	`docelmo`	`Qwell: it lokos like he wants to pull the balance from the DB and use TTS to say what the balance is?`
`16:27.59`	`docelmo`	`Am I over complicating this?`
`16:28.08`	`Qwell`	`other way around :p`
`16:28.19`	`ramindia`	`Qwell: is correct`
`16:28.21`	`Qwell`	`he wants to call a calling card server, and parse what it tells him - and store that`
`16:28.28`	`ramindia`	`u understand that correct`
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`16:28.39`	`ramindia`	`Qwell: perfect`
`16:28.41`	`docelmo`	`ohh simple enough w/ lumenvox`
`16:28.51`	`Qwell`	`not really`
`16:29.10`	`docelmo`	`maybe Im still a little confused`
`16:29.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`docelmo: No, you've got it now.`
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`16:30.14`	`ramindia`	`docelmo: are u still confused ?`
`16:30.16`	`Qwell`	`I imagine Lumenvox will trip over a "machine voice" a bit.`
`16:30.47`	`Qwell`	`Your balance...is...one...hundred...fifty...dollars...and...seven...cents.`
`16:31.00`	`ramindia`	`Qwell: yes correct`
`16:31.31`	`Qwell`	`doesn't seem all that easy to me - especially since it can be any number of things. You don't get the option of asking "Did you say ...?"`
`16:32.19`	`ramindia`	`Qwell: yes correct.. after saying balance it go to immediatly dial the desire number`
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`16:37.02`	`talirk81`	`I installed asterisk 1.4 from aptitude on ubuntu but the sip commands dont seem to be in the cli, can anyone tell me why this might be?`
`16:37.15`	`ramindia`	`any suggestion`
`16:38.24`	`leifmadsen`	`talirk81: chan_sip.so module didn't load`
`16:38.43`	`techie33`	`[TK]D-Fender: that last one shead any light on anyting?`
`16:38.47`	`techie33`	`anything*`
`16:39.38`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`chan_dahdi.c:5012: warning: passing argument 3 of âpri_keypad_facilityâ discards qualifiers from pointer target type`
`16:39.48`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`(due to the constification)`
`16:40.13`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`sorry, wrong channel`
`16:40.41`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`talirk81, it means that chan_sip is not loaded, hwich is strange`
`16:41.05`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`how do you see that you don't have a 'sip' command? on the 'rasterisk' prompt?`
`16:41.07`	`talirk81`	`how can i tell asterisk to load it or see why it failed?`
`16:46.12`	`dacs`	`am back from lunch :)`
`16:46.26`	`dacs`	`so xfighter what are you up too`
`16:47.48`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`talirk81, are you actually in the asterisk prompt? what is your prompt?`
`16:48.14`	`talirk81`	`Connected to Asterisk 1.4.17~dfsg-2ubuntu1 currently running on deploy (pid = 24106) deploy*CLI>`
`16:49.02`	`mgroman`	`What does it mean when ztmonitor doesnt display any "#" when you call that channel ?`
`16:49.07`	`Zhad`	`okay, can't make a support request, none of my sets of licenses are associated with an account (maybe because they were bought such a long time ago).`
`16:51.15`	`leifmadsen`	`Has anyone tried recently to compile asterisk-addons 1.4 branch on CentOS 5.2?`
`16:51.35`	`leifmadsen`	`specifically the mysql stuff -- it seems to be failing for me`
`16:55.06`	`mgroman`	`Is there a good link for troubleshooting an FXO module ?`
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`17:03.06`	`leifmadsen`	`nevermind -- seemed to be a bad mysql-devel.rpm install -- just removed and reinstalled, and all is now good in the world`
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`17:04.45`	`plundra`	`Hmm`
`17:05.09`	`mechbangirc`	`hi how can I group my sip channels. like i can group my fxo channels?`
`17:05.33`	`plundra`	`Why am I getting ringing (on my 7940) when dialing an extension that is local to my server, but when dialing out with my provider, it's just silent until the other end picks up.`
`17:05.58`	`plundra`	`And this is something that's been introduced while configuring other stuff, because it did ring as it should do when I started :-)`
`17:06.22`	`plundra`	`I can see it gets the 180 and all, but no indication that it's actually ringing.`
`17:07.06`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`talirk81, try: module load chan_sip.so`
`17:08.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mechbangirc: You can't`
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`17:08.38`	`mechbangirc`	`[TK]D-Fender: is there a work around. I want to group a couple of my sip channels and then dial them as a group`
`17:08.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mechbangirc: Clarify "as a group"`
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`17:09.22`	`lpccoder`	`hello`
`17:09.30`	`lpccoder`	`I need some help with Asterisk`
`17:09.46`	`leifmadsen`	`plundra: from the CLI: database put group sip-01 SIP/100&SIP/101&SIP/foo`
`17:09.54`	`mechbangirc`	`[TK]D-Fender: just like i dial dahdi channels as Dial(DAHDI/g1) so is it possible for sip`
`17:09.55`	`lpccoder`	`I have planned to cancel all my analog lines and my PBX`
`17:10.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mechbangirc: No.`
`17:10.19`	`leifmadsen`	`plundra: from dialplan: exten => foo,1,Dial(${DB(group/sip-01)})`
`17:10.25`	`mechbangirc`	`[TK]D-Fender: any alternate`
`17:10.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mechbangirc: Try 1. If it fails, try another. All dialplan.`
`17:10.59`	`lpccoder`	`to create a new PBX with asterisk using a Junghanns.NET GSM`
`17:11.03`	`leifmadsen`	`plundra: my method just rings all people at once -- for failover, do dialplan like [TK]D-Fender suggests`
`17:11.09`	`leifmadsen`	`alternatively...`
`17:11.30`	`mgroman`	`lpccoder: hi`
`17:11.30`	`lpccoder`	`My question is: can send and receive faxes via this device?`
`17:11.32`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`leifmadsen: thats mechbangirc not plundra`
`17:11.35`	`mechbangirc`	`[TK]D-Fender: it is too messy, is there any way i can find sip channel status`
`17:11.36`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`leifmadsen: targeting failure :)`
`17:11.40`	`lpccoder`	`hi mgroman`
`17:11.46`	`leifmadsen`	`[TK]D-Fender: canadian systems`
`17:11.49`	`plundra`	`Yeah, you're confusing me :-)`
`17:11.52`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`mechbangirc: No. What I've told you is what you've got.`
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`17:13.16`	`mechbangirc`	`[TK]D-Fender: ok thanx`
`17:13.33`	`lpccoder`	`Anyone can help me?`
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`17:14.43`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`[13:11]<lpccoder>My question is: can send and receive faxes via this device? <- Over GSM? No chance in hell.`
`17:14.50`	`leifmadsen`	`fuck....`
`17:15.05`	`talirk81`	`wierd it loads the module fine it just doesnt load it on start up`
`17:15.05`	`leifmadsen`	`I had something for mechbangirc`
`17:15.10`	`leifmadsen`	`mechbangirc: http://pastebin.ca/1456809`
`17:15.21`	`talirk81`	`any idea what i can do to tell asterisk to load chan_sip.so on start?`
`17:15.28`	`leifmadsen`	`people need to learn to be more patient`
`17:16.19`	`putnopvut`	`talirk81: the way you control which modules are loaded on startup is through modules.conf. The default is to autoload modules, which should already be loading chan_sip.so on startup.`
`17:16.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`leifmadsen: thats jsut a RR dialplan, plus using a fixed key that doesn't get updated`
`17:16.37`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`talirk81, grep autoload /etc/asterisk/modules.conf`
`17:17.13`	`leifmadsen`	`[TK]D-Fender: there's only so much you can do in the dialplan, and would have been a good example`
`17:17.27`	`leifmadsen`	`SIP is not an analog/digital port`
`17:17.56`	`leifmadsen`	`at least I showed some dialplan rather than just saying, "No"`
`17:21.37`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`leifmadsen: I told him he could do in dialplan. He said he doesn't like the idea. But you're welcome to share samples with him :)`
`17:21.51`	`leifmadsen`	`ha.`
`17:22.17`	`ariel_`	`I have a quick question on the TE412b how can you tell if they removed the EC board off the system? I can only do things remotely so I can't see if they removed it or not.`
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`17:23.34`	`techie33`	`[tk]d-fender: did that last debug mean anything?`
`17:25.04`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techie33: Sorry, really can't help you with that`
`17:25.26`	`ariel_`	`just did not want to call patrick at digium but I am guessing I will have to.`
`17:25.51`	`techie33`	`k, thanks for the response.`
`17:26.12`	`talirk81`	`autoload is on and there is no entry for chan_sip in load or noload`
`17:26.21`	`Qwell`	`talirk81: you need a sip.conf`
`17:26.26`	`talirk81`	`i have one`
`17:26.35`	`mgroman`	`ariel_: dmesg ?`
`17:26.45`	`Qwell`	`talirk81: then restart Asterisk`
`17:26.46`	`talirk81`	`thats why module load chan_sip.so works fine but asterisk isnt loading it on start`
`17:26.55`	`mgroman`	`ariel_: and check the alarms?`
`17:27.43`	`talirk81`	`ls`
`17:28.38`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`talirk81, time to check /var/log/asterisk/messages`
`17:28.55`	`talirk81`	`doesnt exist and full is empty`
`17:29.19`	`mgroman`	`talirk81: /etc/asterisk/logger.conf ?`
`17:31.06`	`talirk81`	`thats setup for a event_log,full,queue_log,messages`
`17:31.24`	`talirk81`	`and they all exsist and are owned by asterisk , but its just empty`
`17:31.32`	`talirk81`	`i hate ubuntu sometimes`
`17:32.10`	`ariel_`	`I love ubuntu for desktop, for asterisk servers I use CentOS and Debian Lenny's and build asterisk directly....`
`17:32.24`	`KavanS`	`ariel_, yep, same for me`
`17:32.33`	`mgroman`	`archlinux++ .. but anyways`
`17:32.34`	`KavanS`	`ubuntu isn't meant for a server, but that's my humble opinion`
`17:32.43`	`ariel_`	`mgroman: t/y for the help I am trying to see if they removed the card like we asked our customer`
`17:32.49`	`talirk81`	`i normally run centos but the than cto gave me a manadate of runnign the dev pbx on ubuntu hardy :(`
`17:32.55`	`KavanS`	`ariel_, I've been playing with sles/opensuse and pretty impressed in comparison to rhel/cnetos`
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`17:33.25`	`mgroman`	`ariel_: np, not sure if that is the best answer for you though`
`17:33.28`	`talirk81`	`i like Cent/RHEL due to vendor support is better`
`17:34.31`	`Whitor`	`Slightly slightly offtopic here... Does anyone know of a sip client that can play a wav file to the remote party?`
`17:35.14`	`Whitor`	`preferably runs on linux too :)`
`17:35.46`	`talirk81`	`ok so im tired of ubuntu so i just added asterisk -r -x "module load chan_sip.so" to the stupid init script rofl`
`17:38.34`	`mgroman`	`talirk81: why not just edit /etc/asterisk/modules.conf ?`
`17:38.44`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: Only reason for it not to have loaded is if something else bound the port or your modules.conf is wrong.`
`17:39.09`	`mgroman`	`talirk81: sorry ignore what i said`
`17:39.18`	`mgroman`	`i was thinking about something else`
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`17:41.35`	`talirk81`	`mgroman: I tried load => chan_sip.so in the modules.conf and it still didnt load add teh the line to the init script did work`
`17:42.03`	`talirk81`	`ubuntu must be doing something to confuse asterisk on start up , since the later works perfectly`
`17:42.18`	`mgroman`	`talirk81: is chan_sip.so in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules ?`
`17:42.45`	`talirk81`	`yes`
`17:42.58`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: Might help if you showed us`
`17:43.23`	`nkohh`	`damn ubuntu sabotaging asterisk`
`17:43.59`	`mgroman`	`whats an ubuntu?`
`17:44.30`	`talirk81`	`http://pastebin.ca/1456840 modules.conf`
`17:47.16`	`mgroman`	`http://pastebin.ca/1456842`
`17:47.26`	`mgroman`	`is the equivelant i believe`
`17:48.07`	`talirk81`	`well i have autoload=yes though`
`17:49.40`	`mgroman`	`true`
`17:51.01`	`bullium`	`mgroman, ubuntu is a linux distrobution`
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`17:51.41`	`techie33`	`[TK]D-Fender: I have some more info. We have 7970's tied to the asterisk box, those phones are dropping the calls, but if we call from a 7940 the call goes through just fine. That make any sense?`
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`17:52.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`techie33: nothing i can really concentrate on right now, sorry`
`17:52.31`	`techie33`	`k thaks`
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`18:17.36`	`[jmc]`	`hi guys :)`
`18:17.45`	`[jmc]`	`is back with a few new questions :P`
`18:17.50`	`mgroman`	`k hi`
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`18:23.14`	`buttons840`	`What is the difference between a AGI script and a PHP script?`
`18:23.55`	`[jmc]`	`yesterday I was conducting a test call on my VoIP number (from a real phone, no SIP/H323 softphone/hardphone)`
`18:24.10`	`[jmc]`	`but it lags a little`
`18:24.21`	`[jmc]`	`well, more than "a little" :D`
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`18:24.33`	`[jmc]`	`I can hardly understand what the IVR says`
`18:24.35`	`beek`	`buttons840: AGI = Asterisk Gateway Interface . PHP is a language in which you can write scripts for AGI`
`18:24.37`	`mgroman`	`buttons840: AGI is a way to communicated with asterisk via stdin and stdout. You can do this with php or any other language that can read/write to those`
`18:25.06`	`buttons840`	`ic, so agi scripts use php syntax`
`18:25.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`buttons840: PHP is a language. AGI is how a script is called from * using the STDIN/STDOUT and STDERR intefaces as described in THE BOOK`
`18:25.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~book`
`18:25.11`	`infobot`	`[~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook`
`18:25.27`	`mgroman`	`buttons840: no, but yes at the same`
`18:25.32`	`glaz`	`I am configuring a queue on a fresh installation of Asterisk, when an Agent picks up the phone the agent stays in the "Not in use" state and I get an error message saying, The device state of this queue member, SIP/8614, is still 'Not in Use' when it probably should not be! Please check UPGRADE.txt for correct configuration settings.`
`18:25.33`	`[jmc]`	`I was trying to use ztdummy for timing to try and reduce the lag`
`18:25.37`	`glaz`	`I can't figure out why`
`18:25.47`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`buttons840: AGI has no relationship to the language you write your script for it in.`
`18:25.52`	`[jmc]`	`but Asterisk won't start then`
`18:26.08`	`[jmc]`	`it stops with the following error:`
`18:26.11`	`glaz`	`I looked in UPGRADE.txt about this error, couldn't find any info`
`18:26.11`	`[jmc]`	`[Jun 11 20:21:14] ERROR[6410]: asterisk.c:2974 main: You have Zaptel built and drivers loaded, but the Zaptel timer test failed to set ZT_TIMERCONFIG to 160.`
`18:26.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`glaz: read it again and again untill your eyes bleed`
`18:27.05`	`glaz`	`[TK]D-Fender: what should I look for, there's nothing about this error message`
`18:27.25`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`glaz: looks for "queue" in there and open your eyes`
`18:27.29`	`buttons840`	`well, thanks, guess i'll go back to THE BOOK and see what i can find`
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`18:27.48`	`glaz`	`my eyes are open, and I'm not the type of guy who doesnt read documentations.`
`18:28.14`	`buttons840`	`i get excited and want to start trying things before i finish "the book"`
`18:29.22`	`mgroman`	`buttons840: reading/writing stdin/stdout is a unix concept`
`18:30.08`	`mgroman`	`your essentially reading/writing AGI commands "EXEC WAIT 1" in [language of your choice]`
`18:30.23`	`mgroman`	`you could probably get the same effect using asterisk functions in extensions.conf`
`18:30.33`	`mgroman`	`if you are just starting out, that is`
`18:31.07`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`glaz: pastebin yuor sip peer config`
`18:31.16`	`buttons840`	`mgroman, i see, so just like php creates webpages by creating the html dynamically, it can be used to create agi commands dynamically?`
`18:31.17`	`glaz`	`[TK]D-Fender: its ok. xx`
`18:31.18`	`glaz`	`haha`
`18:31.23`	`glaz`	`limitonpeers`
`18:31.25`	`glaz`	`got it.`
`18:31.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`glaz: Good you DID find it.`
`18:32.03`	`glaz`	`I was reloading queue module, forgot to reload sip..`
`18:32.08`	`mgroman`	`buttons840: yea, that is the benefit of using AGI + language over extensions.conf`
`18:32.13`	`mgroman`	`imo`
`18:32.14`	`glaz`	`anyway, thanks`
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`18:33.40`	`buttons840`	`so agi commands can be used in the dial plan, but from what i've seen it is difficult to implement complex OO logic inside a dial plan, thus it is nice to use a script like php?`
`18:34.04`	`mgroman`	`buttons840: baby steps, dont over cook it`
`18:34.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`buttons840: You use AGI instead of dialplan.`
`18:34.30`	`mgroman`	`"u got to crawl before u walk" - chris tucker as smokey in the movie friday`
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`18:36.15`	`mgroman`	`buttons840: also, your name is cutesy like a name for a pet bunny or kitty or something`
`18:36.30`	`buttons840`	`thanks :)`
`18:37.20`	`mgroman`	`:)`
`18:37.25`	`talirk81`	`TK : i have been reading the the AMI is unstable and can cause alot of deadlocks, is there somethign other than that thats better for * than AGI's, the reason i ask is if a Dial Command starts from inside a dial plan and fails have have had mixed luck with anything else in the agi script running after the dial completes (success or fail)`
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`18:38.01`	`talirk81`	`i mean if dial starts inside a AGI`
`18:38.02`	`talirk81`	`sorry`
`18:38.51`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: There are tricks to better manage this, but i don't have a lot of experience with AGI`
`18:40.05`	`talirk81`	`Ok, ive just been writing my scripts to save variables need for later calls to the channel so they can be used by a deadagi, and just planning scripts so that if the agi is killed things still go along and work`
`18:41.02`	`jameswf`	`is not liking gphoto...`
`18:41.51`	`jks`	`using AMI what is the best way to find a/the channel for a conversation happening on a specific interface? (for example say I have a SIP phone that I know is in a bridged call with one other SIP phone... how would I find the channel name?)`
`18:42.14`	`jks`	`current best bet is to use the Command() action and do a "core show channels concise" and find one that matches`
`18:45.35`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jks: thats the kind of thing I'd do`
`18:47.26`	`jks`	`I'm trying to do some stuff with meetme... I have a program running on the AMI that logs link and matching unlinks so that I have a status of what is happening`
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`18:48.21`	`jks`	`however if I do a AMI redirect to meetme, the channel name in the unlink event is changed to something like "AsyncGoto/normalchannelnameZOMBIE"`
`18:48.38`	`jks`	`is that something I can rely on? - are there on weird combos that I should check for?`
`18:49.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`jks: this sounds like a channel masquerading issue, and something that is also just outside of my experience`
`18:52.36`	`jks`	`hmm, I wonder if it gives off an event when it's about to masquerade the name... but probaby not`
`18:53.30`	`jks`	`I'm just trying to implement a relatively simple function where you can add extra parties to a normal call (i.e. automatically turn it into a meetme conference and then add parties)`
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`18:56.03`	`talirk81`	`What we do is completly automated, Called Dials 800 number, system find callcenters or "Buyers" to try to dial and dials them and record the call and length and updates another inhouse app for stat tracking and billing, so with proper planning AGI does what i need, but i which i have a move typical api structure which is why ive been looking at AMI`
`18:56.17`	`talirk81`	`but i read if connection to the ami client dies asterisk will crash`
`18:56.36`	`kannan`	`hello all, I am using phpagi-asmanager to originate a call from a php web page. Please point me to some actual sample howto capture originate action responses , in using php-agi. I am not able to see any actual code for this one and not able to do myself`
`18:56.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`talirk81: Run astmanproxy`
`18:57.54`	`[jmc]`	`any idea about the ztdummy thing?`
`18:58.01`	`Qwell`	`talirk81: cite your source.`
`18:58.25`	`kannan`	`jmc, it is used for certain applications like meetme, IAX trunking etc when there is no hardware timing source`
`18:58.33`	`talirk81`	`ill have to find it again it might only pretain to 1.2 not 1.4+`
`18:58.55`	`talirk81`	`Been a couple weeks since i was looking at it.`
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`19:01.09`	`talirk81`	`Sorry mibbit died`
`19:01.40`	`[jmc]`	`kannan, I know about that`
`19:02.00`	`[jmc]`	`but * refuses to start when I have ztdummy loaded`
`19:02.15`	`[jmc]`	`[Jun 11 20:35:48] ERROR[6843]: asterisk.c:2974 main: You have Zaptel built and drivers loaded, but the Zaptel timer test failed to set ZT_TIMERCONFIG to 160.`
`19:03.45`	`[jmc]`	`the only chance is to unload ztdummy and go on without it`
`19:03.58`	`kannan`	`jmc , whats the distro you useing?`
`19:04.29`	`[jmc]`	`I'm on a Debian Squeeze`
`19:05.36`	`[jmc]`	`installed zaptel through m-a`
`19:05.45`	`j_kroon`	`hi, is there a way to control the concurrency at which .call files is processed?`
`19:05.45`	`[jmc]`	`and * from the repositories`
`19:06.42`	`kannan`	`jmc, ni , on old distros i used to have to re-compile kernel to set kernel timer config_hz at 1000 , it used to take as 250 by default , nowadays i am used in centos no such issue`
`19:06.42`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`j_kroon: nope`
`19:06.58`	`kannan`	`jmc, beyond that no clue what to say`
`19:07.03`	`j_kroon`	`[TK]D-Fender, not what I wanted to hear, but thanks.`
`19:07.12`	`[jmc]`	`:(`
`19:07.27`	`[jmc]`	`thanks anyway kannan :)`
`19:08.08`	`kannan`	`jmc, yw, sorry , but i am 99.99% a questioner here, not answering`
`19:08.13`	`kannan`	`:)`
`19:08.19`	`[jmc]`	`ehehe`
`19:08.19`	`j_kroon`	`ok, any ideas? I need to generate outbound calls, let's say one hundred of them, but only have sufficient capacity to deal with 10 at a time - any ideas on how I can "control" this?`
`19:08.22`	`[jmc]`	`np`
`19:09.00`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`j_kroon: make your own spooler app to issue AMI originates and check on the concurrency before issuing the next one`
`19:09.05`	`j_kroon`	`[jmc], I'm using a kernel with HPET and NO_HZ set (tickless) and it's working quite well.`
`19:09.57`	`j_kroon`	`[TK]D-Fender, that makes sense. Thanks.`
`19:10.01`	`[jmc]`	`just checked, I have both HPET and NO_HZ`
`19:10.22`	`[jmc]`	`well`
`19:10.24`	`[jmc]`	`you know`
`19:10.36`	`[jmc]`	`mine could just be a network lag`
`19:10.48`	`[jmc]`	`but I was curious to check it out with ztdummy`
`19:11.03`	`[jmc]`	`IIRC on the CentOS it was going fine`
`19:13.23`	`j_kroon`	`[TK]D-Fender, doesn't look too difficult, thanks for the advise. as per usual.`
`19:13.59`	`kannan`	`how to capture orignate responses with AMI API phpagi-asmanager , sorry to repeat`
`19:14.37`	`kannan`	`if i can see one example code , it will be much useful`
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`19:19.34`	`kannan`	`~phpagi`
`19:19.35`	`infobot`	`[phpagi] http://phpagi.sourceforge.net/`
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`19:26.43`	`[jmc]`	`question`
`19:26.54`	`Qwell`	`answer`
`19:26.59`	`[jmc]`	`lol`
`19:27.51`	`[jmc]`	`if I want to define an extensions that is used to dial numbers starting with 06, 03, 05, 08 and such`
`19:27.59`	`[jmc]`	`is it correct to do this?`
`19:28.19`	`[jmc]`	`exten => _[03658].,n,App`
`19:31.05`	`Qwell`	`if you move your 0`
`19:31.53`	`bijit`	`0_o`
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`19:35.45`	`PrestonConnors`	`good afternoon - i am peering two asterisk servers v1.0.11 and 1.6.2.0-beta2 when using Playback/Background (for IVR) audio is VERY choppy. these are peered over < 10ms LAN link. link saturation is not present. i have tried jitterbuffer and also recompiled a custom linux kernel setting kernel timing to 100HZ. musiconhold plays fine and so does human voice traffic. any idea on how to remedy this?`
`19:37.10`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PrestonConnors: Most common cause :`
`19:37.12`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`~gsmbug`
`19:37.13`	`infobot`	`[~gsmbug] there is a bug compiling Asterisk with GCC 4.2 where optimization errors cause GSM transcoding to distort heavily. Compile with GCC 4.1 or lower, or follow this patch : http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=11243 Also please read : http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=116731&sid=3c65e49ec840380ed20f1c8426382b39`
`19:37.14`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`^^6`
`19:37.25`	`PrestonConnors`	`ahh`
`19:37.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PrestonConnors: GCC optimization failure`
`19:37.47`	`PrestonConnors`	`gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-44)`
`19:37.59`	`PrestonConnors`	`would you consider that to be a suspect version of gcc?`
`19:38.05`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PrestonConnors: Try 3.x if you can`
`19:39.25`	`PrestonConnors`	`does it matter that i am using ulaw for audio files?`
`19:40.05`	`kaldemar`	`PrestonConnors: are you using IAX2 between the servers?`
`19:40.11`	`PrestonConnors`	`although, gsm (such as tt-monkeys) still plays choppy audio`
`19:40.16`	`PrestonConnors`	`kaldemar: Yes.`
`19:41.00`	`kaldemar`	`diasabling res_timing_pthread made IAX audio better for me in 1.6.1.`
`19:41.33`	`PrestonConnors`	`~res_timing_pthread`
`19:41.44`	`PrestonConnors`	`oops guess that doesn't work (didn't know what res_timing_pthread is)`
`19:42.13`	`kaldemar`	`it's a timing module, you can disable it in asterisk's modules.conf with noload => res_timing_pthread.so`
`19:42.22`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PrestonConnors: to prove things, play an audio file that is in gsm, and another you have in ulaw only to see the forced transcoding`
`19:42.51`	`PrestonConnors`	`[TK]D-Fender: i have played both gsm and ulaw`
`19:42.58`	`PrestonConnors`	`and both are choppy`
`19:43.41`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PrestonConnors: then its something else.`
`19:43.57`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`PrestonConnors: Only seen to happen when transcoding to/from GSM`
`19:44.11`	`north`	`silly nickserv`
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`19:46.21`	`kannan`	`in using AMI to originate, how to know the dialstatus, i.e whether call was answered or not , or busy or congestion etc?`
`19:47.57`	`kaldemar`	`ha, found the bug report: https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=14412`
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`19:51.23`	`PrestonConnors`	`kaldemar: Thanks I will begin reading.`
`19:52.29`	`PrestonConnors`	`It looks like the SVN release fixes this issue.`
`19:55.26`	`j_kroon`	`can I make cdr_addon_mysql ignore certain columns?`
`19:56.46`	`j_kroon`	`nm, just revoke insert privs on those columns ...`
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`20:08.17`	`bullium`	`what is the cli command for showing which sip extensions currently on the phone`
`20:08.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`OH MY`
`20:08.38`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`bullium: "core show channels concise`
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`20:15.23`	`xfighter`	`hi`
`20:15.26`	`xfighter`	`anybody here?`
`20:15.46`	`xfighter`	`here here here`
`20:16.28`	`jaytee`	`holds finger to lips and whispers shhhhh to everyone and makes the ASL signs for "HIDE!!!"`
`20:17.01`	`xfighter`	`Booooooooooooooooooooooo`
`20:17.52`	`tiefighter`	`shoots the stabilzer off of xfighter and cripples his R2 unit with a single shot from his pulse cannon.`
`20:18.15`	`xfighter`	`????`
`20:19.27`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`checkout time, BBIAB`
`20:20.25`	`PrestonConnors`	`Thanks guys, the SVN branch fixed the choppy audio issue!`
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`20:22.57`	`Dovid`	`hi - cant seem to find any docs on app sendfax. core show application sendfax shows the app but where do I set what number should be called, the carrier etc.`
`20:24.58`	`mgroman`	`omg hahaha`
`20:25.07`	`mgroman`	`jaytee: that was hilarious`
`20:25.08`	`mgroman`	`thanks`
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`20:26.04`	`jaytee`	`Ziggo Selects Nortel to Bring IP Telephony to Businesses in The Netherlands......hmmm, wonder what Ziggo has against The Netherlands?`
`20:32.37`	`beek`	`jaytee: :D`
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`20:33.58`	`Dovid`	`google has nto been helpfull with this error: ast_read() called with no recorded file descriptor`
`20:36.02`	`jaytee`	`"WARNING= If you recieve an e-mail stating that it is pictures of Sarah Palin nude....do not open it because it is a virus. If you recieve an e-mail stating that it is nude pictures of Nancy Pelosi, do not open it either........it might be pictures of Nancy Pelosi....."`
`20:36.35`	`j_kroon`	`it seems my .call files aren't generating cdr records ... is this normal? (using asterisk 1.6.1.0)`
`20:36.48`	`Corydon76-dig`	`jaytee: I think people who rather see her 18yo daughter nude`
`20:36.57`	`Corydon76-dig`	`s/who/would/`
`20:36.58`	`jaytee`	`Corydon76-dig, yep`
`20:37.05`	`jaytee`	`I agree`
`20:37.38`	`Corydon76-dig`	`though I personally would mind seeing her son nude`
`20:37.48`	`Corydon76-dig`	`s/would/wouldn't/`
`20:38.10`	`Dovid`	`haha`
`20:38.17`	`jaytee`	`quittin time, be back from home later`
`20:38.59`	`Dovid`	`can anyone help me with that error ?`
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`20:41.49`	`Corydon76-dig`	`Dovid: are you using the latest SVN for that?`
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`20:45.02`	`Geminizer`	`hey guys... I have set up asterisk for the first time and it runs great. I have an extension created, 16000... when I call out, the receiving phone displays 1(600) 0... I would like to customize the caller id field for this extension. How can I do that?`
`20:46.43`	`Aiatek`	`<Geminizer> what kind of tecnolgy is, i mean sip,dahdi,iax?`
`20:46.51`	`Geminizer`	`sip`
`20:46.59`	`Corydon76-dig`	`Geminizer: that would be something on your phone itself`
`20:47.29`	`Geminizer`	`you mean the phone that is actually making the call?`
`20:48.38`	`Aiatek`	`its a softphone or an ipphone?`
`20:48.43`	`Geminizer`	`softphone`
`20:48.52`	`Aiatek`	`xlite?`
`20:48.59`	`Geminizer`	`:) yes`
`20:49.05`	`SuPrSluG`	`set,callerid`
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`20:49.40`	`Aiatek`	`you have many ways to change that`
`20:50.01`	`Aiatek`	`<SuPrSluG> wrote to you one of them`
`20:50.48`	`Geminizer`	`ok... in which file in asterisk would I put that information in?`
`20:50.57`	`SuPrSluG`	`yes use prefixes and have a caller id for any occasion`
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`20:52.12`	`Geminizer`	`ideally, I would like to assign a caller id to a group of extensions (e.g. any extension in the group 16000-16100 that calls out appears as 1-800-111-2222 on the receiver's end)`
`20:52.14`	`SuPrSluG`	`you can set in sip.conf (per handset) or extensions.conf (globally)`
`20:52.49`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`Geminizer: "core show function CALLERID"`
`20:53.43`	`areay`	`i have asterisk set up... incoming calls work fine, but outgoing calls time out... here's the sip debug log: http://pastebin.com/d2ced127c ...here's my sip.conf: http://pastebin.com/d54f36ada ...and my extensions.conf: http://pastebin.com/d2c79cfe8`
`20:54.14`	`xfighter`	`professor`
`20:54.23`	`xfighter`	`you know this site ? http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/ ??`
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`20:55.14`	`SuPrSluG`	`xfighter:that's also a good source for * info`
`20:55.17`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: I see no call attempt in there`
`20:55.26`	`xfighter`	`it's GREAT`
`20:55.32`	`xfighter`	`I LUV THIS PLACE`
`20:55.47`	`xfighter`	`thats what I call Ia good book`
`20:56.49`	`xfighter`	`detailed and technical with live examples`
`20:57.16`	`xfighter`	`If I were an asterisk admin for this channel I'd add a link for this website in my channel's header`
`20:57.30`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, mighta missed it... here's another one: http://pastebin.com/d41b4ce9d`
`20:57.46`	`SuPrSluG`	`xfighter: it`
`20:58.09`	`SuPrSluG`	`xfighter: it's the same info, just with screencaps`
`20:58.23`	`xfighter`	`nope I disagree with that`
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`20:58.27`	`xfighter`	`it's detailed`
`20:58.34`	`xfighter`	`it's even demonstrated`
`20:58.47`	`xfighter`	`no it's also available for download`
`20:58.54`	`xfighter`	`it's totally different`
`21:00.14`	`SuPrSluG`	`glad you found something you like`
`21:00.31`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: I'm thinking your ekiga is set up wrong...`
`21:00.49`	`xfighter`	`a material given this way , sure I will like`
`21:01.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: And it isn't "outgoing calls". the problem so far is between * and the Ekiga client on the same box. This has nothing to do with the outside world`
`21:06.55`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, ekiga is set up to use port 5061 so as not to conflict with asterisk.... both X-Lite and Ekiga work fine for calls coming from the PSTN`
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`21:07.55`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: Look at the port its coming in on :5072 , not 5061`
`21:08.18`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: Perhaps you have reversed things by accident`
`21:09.37`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, it's setup to use 5061 in gconf, strange...`
`21:09.48`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, either way i don't think it's conflicting with asterisk`
`21:09.57`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, it registers fine and incoming calls work like a charm`
`21:10.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: Yes, but doesn't seem to answer the proxy auth request`
`21:11.28`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, i'm getting the same error with x-lite too... i'm gonna try all this using another machine on my network, just to eliminate any possibility of conflict... i'll be back in like 5-10 mins`
`21:13.25`	`Dovid`	`Corydon76-dig: 1.6.0.10 i am using`
`21:13.30`	`Dovid`	`sorry for the delayed response`
`21:15.00`	`Corydon76-dig`	`Dovid: please see https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=14723`
`21:16.18`	`Dovid`	`thanks`
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`21:23.35`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, on the other machine, instead of timing out, ekiga just disconnects as soon as i push dial... here's the sip debug log: http://pastebin.com/d77d3951f`
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`21:31.48`	`j_kroon`	`crap. I just cannot get these .call files to generate CDRs.`
`21:32.05`	`j_kroon`	`and when I do, it's so not right it's not even funny.`
`21:34.28`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, it says "the user rejected the call"... i haven't tried x-lite on this machine yet, is it worth bothering?`
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`21:35.11`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: go for it, but first remove the realm from your sip.conf`
`21:36.14`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, do i need to add it anywhere else?`
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`21:39.25`	`j_kroon`	`jay, i think i got it right ... just bounce the context I actually want to get to via a Dial(Local/${EXTEN}@realcontext) as the only statement in the origination context!`
`21:40.23`	`Dovid`	`Corydon76-dig: I think the issue may be more related to: https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=14769`
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`21:42.22`	`Dovid`	`i am going to test the patch here`
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`21:47.58`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, in x-lite i'm getting 503: Service Unavailable`
`21:56.18`	`j_kroon`	`when issueing a Dial() to Local/???@??? is there a way to pass channel variables to that channel?`
`21:57.03`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`j_kroon: normal inheritance applies`
`21:58.24`	`j_kroon`	`so if I do Set(foo=bar) followed by Dial(Local/123@dstctx) then in dstctx I won't be able to access foo?`
`21:59.39`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`j_kroon: yes, go read up on how variables are inherited.`
`21:59.51`	`j_kroon`	`busy now`
`22:00.08`	`areay`	`[TK]D-Fender, what do you think my problem is?`
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`22:00.55`	`j_kroon`	`[TK]D-Fender, got it. That _ is a rather crucial character :)`
`22:01.01`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`areay: Also remove the "insecure' bit from your peers, and pay attention to * SIP debug and not the client.`
`22:01.08`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`j_kroon: ENTIRELY`
`22:01.19`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`is off to martial arts and the stage-time`
`22:01.21`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`then*`
`22:01.23`	`[TK]D-Fender`	`BBL`
`22:01.35`	`j_kroon`	`[TK]D-Fender, thanks for kicking me in the right direction.`
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`22:05.32`	`buttons840`	`I'm reading the book, and it speaks of installing zaptel drivers, these have been since renamed to dahdi correct?`
`22:05.52`	`Aiatek`	`yes`
`22:06.34`	`Aiatek`	`zaptel.conf = /etc/dahdi/system.conf`
`22:06.49`	`Aiatek`	`zapata.conf = chan_dahdi.conf`
`22:09.46`	`buttons840`	`ok, thank you.`
`22:10.14`	`Aiatek`	`no prob`
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`22:18.03`	`OpenPsycho`	`hi guys`
`22:18.08`	`buttons840`	`another q about the book, asteriskNOW has been renamed to trixbox?`
`22:18.27`	`OpenPsycho`	`what softphone would you recommend be if I need one to use the g.729 or g.723 codec in linux .`
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`22:20.42`	`rue_mohr`	`ok so I have paging working on a test phone, if a user is on hte phone, it puts their call on hold and plays the page`
`22:20.43`	`Aiatek`	`NOOO`
`22:20.51`	`rue_mohr`	`:/`
`22:20.58`	`Aiatek`	`trixbox is trixbox`
`22:21.14`	`Aiatek`	`asterisknow its by asterisk`
`22:21.24`	`Aiatek`	`trixbox its by fonality`
`22:23.26`	`buttons840`	`asteriskNOW is still developed and maintained?`
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`22:24.45`	`Aiatek`	`www.asterisknow.org`
`22:25.22`	`lasko`	`Trying to figure out why when I attempt to dial into a conference I receive http://pastebin.com/mfc4c2e5`
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`22:27.16`	`lasko`	`anyone know why I would be receiving that error?`
`22:27.37`	`lasko`	`Note: this is on 1.6`
`22:28.42`	`Chewi`	`hi. if a call comes in and is answered, then terminates, it goes to the "h" extension. but if the caller hangs up before the call is answered, this doesn't happen. in fact, it seems to stop processing the dial plan immediately. is there a way around this?`
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`22:30.02`	`Aiatek`	`<lasko> can you paste the complete output of the call`
`22:32.07`	`lasko`	`http://pastebin.com/m5f4dc556`
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`22:41.20`	`Chewi`	`I want to execute one last command before it stops`
`22:41.53`	`xfighter`	`monga`
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`22:43.16`	`rue_mohr`	`how do I make paging not interrupt the users current call without killing their ability to get more than one call at a time`
`22:43.38`	`rue_mohr`	`say on the polycom phone`
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`22:47.00`	`xfighter`	`gui softphone`
`22:47.00`	`xfighter`	`how can I build one?`
`22:47.00`	`lasko`	`uhm... learn to program`
`22:47.08`	`[jmc]`	`lol`
`22:47.33`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, Qt`
`22:47.42`	`rue_mohr`	`yea I have a project to make a ulaw set that goes into a serial port a 115200`
`22:47.44`	`[jmc]`	`and a lot of pacience, I guess`
`22:47.55`	`xfighter`	`ok`
`22:47.58`	`xfighter`	`but I mean`
`22:48.02`	`xfighter`	`I need some hints`
`22:48.08`	`[jmc]`	`oh`
`22:48.10`	`xfighter`	`where to start?`
`22:48.13`	`[jmc]`	`don't ask me :D`
`22:48.14`	`rue_mohr`	`need a microcontroller to split out the control signals and the rest is done by a ulaw<-> analog chip`
`22:48.23`	`[jmc]`	`I know nothing about that`
`22:48.25`	`lasko`	`[testing]`
`22:48.25`	`lasko`	`Description = ODBC Testing`
`22:48.25`	`lasko`	`Driver = PostgreSQL`
`22:48.25`	`lasko`	`Trace = No`
`22:48.25`	`lasko`	`TraceFile = sql.log`
`22:48.28`	`lasko`	`Database = asterisk`
`22:48.30`	`lasko`	`Servername = 127.0.0.1`
`22:48.32`	`lasko`	`UserName = asterisk`
`22:48.35`	`lasko`	`Password = supersecret`
`22:48.37`	`rue_mohr`	`lasko, use pastebin`
`22:48.38`	`lasko`	`Port = 5432`
`22:48.40`	`lasko`	`ReadOnly = No`
`22:48.42`	`rue_mohr`	`or you will get kicked out`
`22:48.43`	`lasko`	`RowVersioning = No`
`22:48.43`	`_ShrikE`	`!`
`22:48.45`	`lasko`	`ShowSystemTables = No`
`22:48.45`	`xfighter`	`byeeeeeee`
`22:48.48`	`lasko`	`ShowOidColumn = No`
`22:48.50`	`lasko`	`FakeOidIndex = No`
`22:48.53`	`lasko`	`ConnSettings =`
`22:48.55`	`lasko`	`http://pastebin.com/m5f4dc556`
`22:48.57`	`lasko`	`oh shit`
`22:48.58`	`rue_mohr`	`I said OR YOU WILL GET KICKED OUT`
`22:49.00`	`lasko`	`didn't mean to do that`
`22:49.02`	`lasko`	`grrrr`
`22:49.09`	`rue_mohr`	`ssh <- hint`
`22:49.18`	`rue_mohr`	`~pb`
`22:49.19`	`infobot`	`[~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste , or , http://bin.cakephp.org/`
`22:49.37`	`lasko`	`was looking in the wrong window when I hit ctrl-v`
`22:49.40`	`lasko`	`lol`
`22:49.52`	`[jmc]`	`lasko, KVIRC?`
`22:50.03`	`xfighter`	`so slow in pasting`
`22:50.08`	`lasko`	`I'm using irssi`
`22:50.13`	`xfighter`	`musn't have that long time pasting in mirc`
`22:50.14`	`[jmc]`	`oh I see`
`22:50.25`	`xfighter`	`I thought you were pasting you info line by line`
`22:50.28`	`lasko`	`no`
`22:50.29`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, it's a "safety" rule`
`22:50.35`	`[jmc]`	`if you flood`
`22:50.42`	`[jmc]`	`you'll get kicked out`
`22:50.43`	`lasko`	`irssi will break down your lines for you and paste in line by line`
`22:50.47`	`[jmc]`	`99% oh the time`
`22:50.52`	`[jmc]`	`* of the time`
`22:50.56`	`[jmc]`	`right :)`
`22:51.05`	`lasko`	`well, anyways. I'm off to figure out wtf is going on`
`22:51.09`	`[jmc]`	`it's a sort of netiquette aid`
`22:51.16`	`[jmc]`	`but you can't stop it :D`
`22:51.29`	`rue_mohr`	`ok anyone know how to make a polycom set not kick the user out of their current call when their phone is paged?`
`22:52.40`	`Aiatek`	`<lasko> you are working with ARA`
`22:52.49`	`Aiatek`	`?`
`22:53.02`	`[jmc]`	`too late`
`22:53.02`	`rue_mohr`	`so hmm why dosn't page() exclude anyone with an active call`
`22:53.04`	`[jmc]`	`:(`
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`22:53.15`	`xfighter`	`[jmc]`
`22:53.23`	`rue_mohr`	`considers a patch`
`22:53.24`	`xfighter`	`I foung something interesting for you`
`22:53.40`	`Aiatek`	`<lasko> you are working with ARA`
`22:53.42`	`Aiatek`	`?`
`22:53.45`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, give it to me`
`22:53.47`	`[jmc]`	`now :D`
`22:53.50`	`lasko`	`anyone know why I would be getting this error when I call into my meetme? I'm using Asterisk 1.6 with Realtime, http://pastebin.com/m5f4dc556`
`22:54.03`	`lasko`	`and pretty much at a loss now lol`
`22:54.04`	`xfighter`	`http://www.portsip.com`
`22:54.26`	`xfighter`	`http://www.portsip.com/downloads/WebPhoneSample.zip`
`22:54.32`	`xfighter`	`this is what u need`
`22:54.54`	`xfighter`	`a pure javascript html sofphone :)`
`22:54.54`	`lasko`	`Aiatek: Yes`
`22:55.09`	`xfighter`	`you'll like the source code`
`22:55.11`	`Aiatek`	`:{`
`22:55.39`	`xfighter`	`[jmc] do you programm?`
`22:55.58`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, interesting`
`22:56.01`	`[jmc]`	`yes I do`
`22:56.05`	`[jmc]`	`pure JavaScript? :D`
`22:56.06`	`xfighter`	`what language?`
`22:56.14`	`[jmc]`	`that would be quite a nice thing :P`
`22:56.15`	`lasko`	`Aiatek: Is that a bad thing?`
`22:56.20`	`xfighter`	`well there's a couple of OCX of course heheheh`
`22:56.31`	`[jmc]`	`no, I don't like OCX :D`
`22:56.40`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, several languages`
`22:56.52`	`[jmc]`	`mostly C, C++, Java, Python`
`22:56.53`	`xfighter`	`it's compiles don't bother yourself just modify the html page`
`22:56.58`	`xfighter`	`cool`
`22:57.10`	`xfighter`	`I want u to look at that page source code`
`22:57.14`	`Aiatek`	`i dont know anything about ARA`
`22:57.16`	`Aiatek`	`:P`
`22:57.23`	`lasko`	`meh`
`22:57.27`	`xfighter`	`and tell me if I can use it for my java softphone`
`22:57.36`	`xfighter`	`I mean is there anychance ??`
`22:58.03`	`[jmc]`	`xfighter, I'll see`
`22:58.20`	`xfighter`	`you're downloadin it?`
`23:03.16`	`[jmc]`	`yes`
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`23:10.47`	`areay`	`what does "no reply to our critical packet" in the iax debug mean? whenever i dial out, it connects, but drops the call after 30 seconds... and there's no sound either way... i have port 4569 forwarded on my router and in firestarter...`
`23:18.46`	`rue_mohr`	`I can have background() play an mp3 just the same as a wav yes?`
`23:18.55`	`[jmc]`	`hmm`
`23:19.00`	`[jmc]`	`I think so`
`23:19.03`	`rue_mohr`	`or has to be gsm?`
`23:19.15`	`[jmc]`	`but you have to enable some modules IIRC`
`23:19.24`	`rue_mohr`	`hmm`
`23:19.28`	`rue_mohr`	`maybe I'm beset to convert it eh?`
`23:19.53`	`[jmc]`	`I don't really know`
`23:20.06`	`[jmc]`	`you should wait for more trained users here :)`
`23:20.29`	`rue_mohr`	`na, I'm dangerous, I can figure it out, or take the system withme trying`
`23:21.05`	`Aiatek`	`install asterisk-addons`
`23:21.11`	`Aiatek`	`did you?`
`23:21.19`	`rue_mohr`	`puts on sox`
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`23:21.27`	`[jmc]`	`lol`
`23:21.32`	`Aiatek`	`:P`
`23:21.35`	`[jmc]`	`he's already gone on the MP3 path`
`23:21.43`	`[jmc]`	`no one can save him anymore`
`23:22.02`	`Aiatek`	`its better not to choose mp3`
`23:22.03`	`rue_mohr`	`I ned to wave it first, which is ok cause I want to trim it`
`23:22.29`	`rue_mohr`	`if my users want camp town races ringtone, I'll be damned if I'm not going to give it to them`
`23:22.42`	`rue_mohr`	`maybe it will distract them from the echo`
`23:23.04`	`bmoraca`	`a hardware echo canceler will fix the echo :P`
`23:23.10`	`rue_mohr`	`well its not`
`23:23.19`	`rue_mohr`	`dispite what we paid for it`
`23:23.33`	`[jmc]`	`brb`
`23:23.44`	`bmoraca`	`oh, you did finally bite the bullet? did you buy a digium?`
`23:23.51`	`rue_mohr`	`long time ago`
`23:24.08`	`rue_mohr`	`its a tdm800 with hwec`
`23:24.11`	`bmoraca`	`shoulda bought a sangoma`
`23:24.15`	`bmoraca`	`:P`
`23:24.16`	`rue_mohr`	`YES`
`23:24.19`	`rue_mohr`	`I know`
`23:24.27`	`rue_mohr`	`now`
`23:24.28`	`Aiatek`	`i hate sangoma`
`23:24.36`	`rue_mohr`	`why, please tell`
`23:24.45`	`Aiatek`	`drivers issue`
`23:24.47`	`bmoraca`	`let me rephrase my earlier comment... "a sangoma hardware echo canceler will fix the echo" :D`
`23:24.47`	`Aiatek`	`wanpipe`
`23:24.55`	`bmoraca`	`never had a driver issue ever with Sangoma`
`23:24.56`	`rue_mohr`	`really?`
`23:25.04`	`rue_mohr`	`what?`
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`23:25.10`	`[jmc]`	`is back`
`23:25.19`	`bmoraca`	`yes, the implementation is kind of weird with wanrouter...but it's always been stable for me`
`23:25.21`	`rue_mohr`	`you saying I should put a sagnoma hwec on a digium card?`
`23:25.30`	`bmoraca`	`no`
`23:25.34`	`bmoraca`	`that won't work`
`23:25.39`	`rue_mohr`	`but dosn't the dahdi driver install all hte hwec firmware?`
`23:25.41`	`rue_mohr`	`good`
`23:25.42`	`Aiatek`	`i had a bad xperience one time setting a T1 with sangoma cards`
`23:26.05`	`rue_mohr`	`k, well I 'm not worried about T1`
`23:26.11`	`Aiatek`	`since i use digium or openvox`
`23:26.14`	`rue_mohr`	`there's nothing to go wrong with a t1`
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`23:26.28`	`rue_mohr`	`so the sagnoma drivers are a pain to compile?`
`23:26.34`	`bmoraca`	`no`
`23:26.36`	`bmoraca`	`not really`
`23:26.58`	`bmoraca`	`and sangoma's tech support is top knotch`
`23:27.00`	`rue_mohr`	`next time (if I get a chance) I'll get a sagnoma, so I want to know any issues`
`23:27.09`	`rue_mohr`	`digium was pretty good too`
`23:27.37`	`rue_mohr`	`half my problems are my polycom phones, the other half is the tdm800`
`23:27.45`	`rue_mohr`	`have to go`
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`23:47.53`	`[jmc]`	`omg lol â http://www.pedobearpics.com/pedobear/pedobear-in-the-womb.jpg`
`23:47.55`	`[jmc]`	`:D`
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