| 00:00.21 | teidel | do maybe I should just install a pure asterisk |
| 00:00.32 | teidel | what's the easiest way to do that? |
| 00:01.04 | chuckf | if you want support here I would say yes. However if you just go to #freepbx and ask there you may get your answers using what you have already |
| 00:11.09 | Sandheaver | teidel: easiest way to get plan asterisk installed on a linux system, probably, is to download ubuntu server, then once it's set up do "sudo apt-get install asterisk" |
| 00:11.33 | Sandheaver | though i prefer ubuntu, and others will have differing opinions on distribution |
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| 00:14.06 | teidel | Sandheaver: from there I'll have to manually configure the files,or are there any tools to help? |
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| 00:23.02 | KavanS | can I send *67 in a dial command? |
| 00:23.57 | [TK]D-Fender | KavanS: Looks like digits to me.. |
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| 00:26.05 | KavanS | would i need to send a pause of some sort? |
| 00:26.16 | KavanS | or just the entire number: ex *6718004664411 |
| 00:27.17 | [TK]D-Fender | KavanS: You tel me. |
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| 00:41.50 | KavanS | ok, right on |
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| 00:45.43 | PuTzz | ! clear |
| 00:46.40 | russellb | Password: |
| 00:47.43 | drmessano | ihatev0nage2 |
| 00:47.46 | KavanS | uhoh |
| 00:47.47 | drmessano | Oh crap |
| 00:47.52 | KavanS | oh shit! |
| 00:47.57 | drmessano | brb |
| 00:47.59 | KavanS | hacks the gibson with that password |
| 00:48.21 | drmessano | I say that at work and few get it |
| 00:48.24 | drmessano | Makes me sad |
| 00:48.39 | drmessano | "Duh, its not like we're hacking the gibson or something" |
| 00:48.42 | drmessano | "Uh what?" |
| 00:48.55 | drmessano | So then I bust out with some Jonas brothers, and its good |
| 00:49.13 | KavanS | yeah if you don't know that phrase...there is a good chance you shouldn't be in computing |
| 00:49.14 | KavanS | maybe? |
| 00:49.55 | drmessano | Even to be Facetious about it |
| 00:50.17 | drmessano | Not like you have to be a fan, watched it 10 times |
| 00:50.42 | drmessano | Now Wargames.. That's different |
| 00:51.00 | drmessano | if you dont think its the best movie ever.. STFU and GTFO.. period |
| 00:51.15 | drmessano | zero tolerance |
| 00:51.30 | drmessano | I'm naming my first kid Joshua |
| 00:54.16 | KavanS | I will shoot someone in the face if they do not like it |
| 00:54.18 | KavanS | (for the record) |
| 00:54.27 | russellb | eep |
| 00:55.32 | KavanS | (kidding) |
| 00:55.45 | russellb | I already reported it :-( |
| 00:55.56 | KavanS | haha |
| 00:56.09 | chuckf | And don't forget Sneakers! |
| 00:56.14 | KavanS | sneakers is a great flick |
| 00:56.19 | KavanS | just watched it a couple weeks ago |
| 00:56.22 | russellb | to the department of ... movie elitism ... or something |
| 00:56.58 | russellb | though I do agree, it's a classic. |
| 00:57.17 | russellb | I agree so much that I think I'm going to watch it while I code right now. |
| 00:57.26 | KavanS | I finally figured out how to do this "analog" only configuration for my fax...god this feels good |
| 00:57.39 | russellb | yay for stuff working |
| 00:58.03 | KavanS | yeah, hylafax was trying to use the SIP line |
| 00:58.09 | KavanS | that cause some not so happy moments... |
| 00:59.26 | KavanS | yeah, I don't know if I would trust someone who did not like sneakers |
| 01:01.34 | chuckf | I bought it on DVD again a few weeks back (original was lost) and that night at the lug meeting found one of the younger members had never heard of it so I let him have it |
| 01:02.50 | KavanS | that hopefully made his year |
| 01:03.30 | chuckf | he did enjoy it |
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| 01:07.52 | drmessano | I wanted Asterisk 1.6 to contain app_wopr |
| 01:08.09 | drmessano | So I emailed everyone at Digium |
| 01:08.22 | drmessano | Reply I got back: |
| 01:08.37 | drmessano | Shall we play a game? |
| 01:08.59 | joako | How can I use app_rxfax under asterisk 1.4 w/ DAHDI? |
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| 01:10.19 | KavanS | joako, I tried to use rxfax with zapata, and had issues....I ended up using hylafax and have had some good results |
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| 01:23.11 | Naikrovek | wow /me is impressed with what 'core show translation' shows on his virtualized system |
| 01:25.57 | russellb | more or less than expected? |
| 01:26.36 | Naikrovek | less |
| 01:27.06 | giovani | what are 'nice' numbers to expect? |
| 01:27.50 | Naikrovek | but recalcing with different times shows wildly different results |
| 01:28.08 | giovani | Naikrovek: welcome to your virtualization platform's scheduling argorithm :) |
| 01:28.14 | giovani | Naikrovek: what's the platform? |
| 01:28.25 | giovani | s/argorithm/algorithm/ |
| 01:28.26 | Naikrovek | was trying virtualbox (it's quite nice, actually) |
| 01:28.33 | giovani | ahh |
| 01:28.55 | Naikrovek | the same recalc time produces the same results, but yeah it's not consistent across different times |
| 01:29.13 | Naikrovek | it should be more or less the same result no matter how long the sample size |
| 01:29.57 | Naikrovek | it shows in microseconds too, in 1.6 |
| 01:30.08 | Naikrovek | 1-2 seems to be the number of the day. microseconds |
| 01:30.22 | giovani | 1-2 microseconds? really? |
| 01:30.27 | Naikrovek | yeah |
| 01:30.39 | giovani | that seems unlikely |
| 01:31.08 | Naikrovek | i know but that's what it says |
| 01:31.20 | Naikrovek | my server at work shows 1-2 milliseconds and it's not virtualized |
| 01:31.23 | Naikrovek | that's more realistic |
| 01:31.36 | giovani | yeah, something is likely off |
| 01:31.43 | dymaxion | this seems to be discontinued: Digium TDM11B - 1 FXO 1 FXS, and the replacement Digium AEX411B appears to have doubled in price... am I missing somethign here? |
| 01:32.02 | Naikrovek | does it actually do the transcoding when i run 'core show translation recalc 10' ? |
| 01:34.59 | dymaxion | also I see equivalent items on ebay fully compatible with Asterisk for a fraction of the price.. again am I missing something? if they all work then fine right? doesn't have to be digium branded |
| 01:35.35 | KavanS | any recommendations for a SIP phone? |
| 01:35.46 | giovani | KavanS: totally depends on your needs, budget, etc |
| 01:35.59 | KavanS | polycom, don't wanna spend a shit ton, but upgrade from standard SIP adapters |
| 01:36.07 | KavanS | I hear polycom is good? |
| 01:36.26 | giovani | I've heard that too, but I haven't used them |
| 01:36.33 | giovani | I've stuck to Linksys and Cisco -- both have been good |
| 01:36.52 | KavanS | what's the price for those per pc? |
| 01:36.58 | giovani | depends on the model |
| 01:37.09 | giovani | I buy the PoE, 4 line Linksys for $110 or so |
| 01:37.27 | giovani | and we get refurbished (but brand new looking) Cisco 7941G for $130 |
| 01:37.35 | giovani | which is a 2 line phone |
| 01:37.36 | giovani | and poe |
| 01:37.50 | KavanS | ok |
| 01:37.52 | KavanS | right on |
| 01:38.37 | KavanS | found some refurb 7940G for 89$ shipped |
| 01:38.50 | giovani | 7940Gs aren't standard PoE |
| 01:38.58 | giovani | they only work with Cisco pre-standard power, just so you know |
| 01:39.06 | drmessano | 7940 sux |
| 01:39.17 | KavanS | ok, what's a good model? |
| 01:39.17 | KavanS | heh |
| 01:39.25 | giovani | KavanS: I already provided you with a few |
| 01:39.43 | KavanS | drmessano, just said 7940 sux... |
| 01:39.47 | KavanS | is this different for 7941? |
| 01:39.52 | giovani | heh |
| 01:40.21 | Qwell | ~cheap |
| 01:40.22 | infobot | methinks cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 01:40.23 | Qwell | dymaxion: ^^ |
| 01:40.46 | KavanS | right on, not trying to be cheap...trying to find a good bang per buck phone |
| 01:40.50 | KavanS | i.e. I don't need 500$ phones |
| 01:40.54 | Qwell | So no, it doesn't need to be Digium, but you might want to spend more than you would on lunch |
| 01:41.04 | Qwell | KavanS: wasn't for you |
| 01:41.05 | KavanS | hence asking for recommendations... |
| 01:41.10 | KavanS | ok.. heh |
| 01:41.48 | Qwell | dymaxion: anybody can call their stuff "fully compatible!", but good luck getting them to warranty it |
| 01:42.35 | KavanS | so what line of cisco phones would someone recommend? |
| 01:42.38 | KavanS | or polycom for that matter? |
| 01:42.47 | KavanS | I don't need a bunch of bells and whistles...just want a decent quality phone |
| 01:42.51 | dymaxion | Qwell, I guess so... but essentially if they are using the same chipset? unless the digiums are proprietary? I would have their they have common components (just as V90/92 fax modem cards have same chipsets) ? |
| 01:43.03 | dymaxion | I guess perhaps not. |
| 01:43.18 | Qwell | Most are clone pieces of crap. |
| 01:43.41 | dymaxion | ok. thanks. therefore anyone recommend a decent supplier for Digium or Sangoma cards in UK? or alternatives.. I need 2 FXO, 2FXS card.. |
| 01:43.44 | giovani | KavanS: I've already recommended some, ignore that if you like |
| 01:43.56 | KavanS | giovani, can you vouch for that phone from personal use? |
| 01:43.57 | dymaxion | sorry mist have missed that... above.. |
| 01:44.07 | dymaxion | Cisco ? |
| 01:44.11 | KavanS | 7941G works well for you? |
| 01:44.32 | Qwell | KavanS: Don't forget to add the price of the license for the software on those phones btw |
| 01:44.47 | KavanS | Qwell, license? are you serious? |
| 01:45.06 | Qwell | infobot: cisco license |
| 01:45.23 | dymaxion | oops.. sorry got crossed with other persons msg... so my Q still stands... |
| 01:45.24 | KavanS | Qwell, what phone would you suggest? |
| 01:45.29 | Qwell | stupid bot |
| 01:45.53 | giovani | KavanS: are you joking? I just said that we buy them ... yes, personal use -- we own 100 of them |
| 01:46.00 | dymaxion | also i read about requiring a timing card for conferences... do those FXO/FXS cards include the timing aspect or do I need a separate card usually ? |
| 01:46.00 | Qwell | ~ciscolicense |
| 01:46.01 | infobot | ciscolicense is probably unless you gave Cisco your first born, you probably aren't legally authorized to use their phones. see http://www.ntbox.com/cisco-openletter.html |
| 01:46.04 | Qwell | KavanS: there |
| 01:46.21 | drmessano | Yep |
| 01:46.24 | KavanS | ok...so a basic blanket legal threat from cisco? |
| 01:46.26 | Qwell | dymaxion: all Digium cards do |
| 01:46.31 | KavanS | has anyone been taken to court for this? |
| 01:46.34 | giovani | legal threat? |
| 01:46.37 | giovani | it's a license |
| 01:46.42 | Qwell | dymaxion: well, all the interface ones |
| 01:46.44 | giovani | there's no threat |
| 01:46.44 | drmessano | Youre using the hardware illegally |
| 01:46.47 | KavanS | hrm, page failed... |
| 01:46.53 | giovani | drmessano: who is? |
| 01:46.56 | KavanS | how am I using it illegally if I never signed? |
| 01:47.06 | Qwell | KavanS: read it |
| 01:47.07 | KavanS | don't you have to sign a contract? |
| 01:47.09 | Qwell | no |
| 01:47.12 | KavanS | Qwell, link doesn't work :\ |
| 01:47.12 | Qwell | copyright... |
| 01:47.23 | KavanS | ok, so polycom is okay to buy like this? |
| 01:47.25 | Qwell | huh |
| 01:47.28 | Qwell | take off the www |
| 01:47.29 | Qwell | fixes |
| 01:47.36 | drmessano | If you buy "replacement" phones, you're using them illegally. |
| 01:47.45 | giovani | drmessano: that's flat out false |
| 01:47.46 | Qwell | drmessano: beyond that even |
| 01:47.50 | Qwell | giovani: Read the link. |
| 01:47.50 | drmessano | You have to purchase a phone and a license |
| 01:47.57 | KavanS | Qwell, okay so polycom is ok? |
| 01:47.59 | dymaxion | Thanks. I guess I don't understandd also why the new digium card is double the price of the old one that was discontinued, when it offers the same functionality! TDM11B vs AEX411B (if I find soomewhere selling the old one, is that good enough?) |
| 01:47.59 | drmessano | Like hell it is |
| 01:48.03 | Qwell | KavanS: yes |
| 01:48.16 | KavanS | Qwell, a recommendation for polycom model? |
| 01:48.19 | Qwell | KavanS: most are, actually.. Cisco is just... it's Cisco. |
| 01:48.25 | Qwell | KavanS: what are you looking for? |
| 01:48.25 | KavanS | drmessano, are they enforcing this? |
| 01:48.40 | KavanS | Qwell, a SIP phone that has some basic features...but good quality |
| 01:48.44 | KavanS | headset plugin being important |
| 01:48.51 | drmessano | KavanS: They're not going door to door, but how the fuck does the level of enforcement have anything to do with the legality? |
| 01:48.55 | giovani | drmessano: we pay for licenses, how are we violating their license agreement? |
| 01:48.59 | Qwell | dymaxion: perhaps you're looking at one with an echo can, where before you weren't? |
| 01:49.13 | Qwell | giovani: "replacement" phones don't include licenses (new) |
| 01:49.14 | KavanS | drmessano, heh level of enforcement has to do with level of risk of purchase |
| 01:49.21 | Qwell | that's precisely what "replacement" means |
| 01:49.22 | drmessano | giovani: WITHOUT THE LICENSE, SWEETHEART |
| 01:49.23 | KavanS | hence the FUD microsoft spreads about linux |
| 01:49.24 | giovani | Qwell: I'm perfectly aware -- we buy them outselves |
| 01:49.41 | giovani | drmessano: you said we were using them illegally -- you're incorrect -- calm yourself down |
| 01:49.52 | drmessano | giovani: Never did I say that |
| 01:49.58 | Qwell | Why would you buy a license for a replacement phone? It makes it no longer a replacement. |
| 01:50.06 | drmessano | giovani: i dont know you, dont care to know you.. Can't say what you're doing |
| 01:50.13 | giovani | Qwell: it's cheaper to spend $130 than $300 |
| 01:50.17 | giovani | 21:47 < drmessano> If you buy "replacement" phones, you're using them illegally |
| 01:50.36 | drmessano | Yes, no license.. Just the "replacement phone" 5 finger discount |
| 01:50.39 | drmessano | Duh? |
| 01:50.39 | KavanS | heh |
| 01:50.43 | KavanS | discount? |
| 01:50.52 | Qwell | giovani: You missed the point.. |
| 01:50.58 | drmessano | Phone without license = cheaper than phone with license |
| 01:51.17 | giovani | refurbished phone with license = hundreds of dollars less than new phone with license |
| 01:51.21 | giovani | hence why we buy refurbished |
| 01:51.26 | KavanS | which polycom line is reliable? |
| 01:51.38 | Qwell | giovani: refurbished != replacement |
| 01:51.49 | KavanS | yeah, I guess I wonder if cisco is even enforcing this... |
| 01:51.54 | giovani | Qwell: drmessano said "replacement" when I've been saying refurbished |
| 01:52.02 | drmessano | Qwell: Forget it, just tell him he's cool because he has Cisco licenses |
| 01:52.03 | Qwell | giovani: Then what's the argument? |
| 01:52.14 | giovani | so you can yell at him to introducing the two as if they're the same concept in the same discussion |
| 01:52.23 | giovani | s/to/for/ |
| 01:52.25 | Qwell | They are the same, if you aren't buying licenses. |
| 01:52.32 | Qwell | Which was the entire point of his comment. |
| 01:53.40 | giovani | the suggestion that buying cisco phones refurbished implies using them illegally is false, and that's precisely what was suggested |
| 01:53.43 | drmessano | giovani: I find it interesting that you're so into Cisco phones and you're so blisfully ignorant of those buying phones without licenses (typically sold and tagged as "replacement phones") to save $$$ |
| 01:53.52 | Qwell | giovani: If all you buy is the phone, yes, you're using it illegally. |
| 01:53.58 | drmessano | giovani: No it is not, never said anything about refurbished phones |
| 01:54.08 | KavanS | so what is a good polycom line? |
| 01:54.09 | giovani | heh |
| 01:54.10 | KavanS | i.e. 600 and up good? |
| 01:54.16 | Qwell | KavanS: they're all good, tbh |
| 01:54.16 | giovani | this is absurd |
| 01:54.25 | Qwell | just depends what you need.. how many lines, etc |
| 01:54.30 | drmessano | giovani: Yes it is.. Are you on something? |
| 01:55.04 | KavanS | damn it, what does it take to get an opinion! lol |
| 01:55.12 | KavanS | I need the pro tips! |
| 01:55.13 | giovani | KavanS: drmessano has plenty -- ask him |
| 01:55.27 | Qwell | KavanS: what do you need? :P |
| 01:55.31 | KavanS | drmessano, pro tip on polycom's...what model if you were doing to buy a couple? |
| 01:55.36 | Qwell | beyond just "a basic phone" |
| 01:55.46 | KavanS | just a headset plug and something that looks/feels decent |
| 01:55.59 | Qwell | 320 would fit that, if it has a headset plug |
| 01:56.04 | Qwell | I think they all do though |
| 01:56.36 | drmessano | IP330 isn't half bad.. Its not 18 inches wide either |
| 01:56.41 | dymaxion | Thanks all |
| 01:56.41 | KavanS | ok, speaker phone included |
| 01:56.46 | KavanS | I have a speakerphone now, can't downgrade... |
| 01:57.06 | KavanS | hrm, guess it does include one |
| 01:57.23 | drmessano | Grandstreams have speakerphones.. thats not really something you need to request |
| 01:57.59 | KavanS | 320 looks pretty decent too |
| 01:59.03 | thuddwhirr | anyone have any experience configuring custom music-on-hold applications? |
| 02:00.03 | thuddwhirr | specifically, if i used something like play-fifo, does anyone know a trick for passing arguments to it from the dialplan? |
| 02:00.39 | drmessano | We dont have MoH.. Our SLA doesnt permit non-zero hold times.. Sorry |
| 02:00.44 | KavanS | shit, need POE? |
| 02:00.51 | Qwell | KavanS: You can buy power adapters |
| 02:00.55 | drmessano | Power adapter |
| 02:01.03 | KavanS | drmessano, you run a support call center? |
| 02:01.07 | KavanS | how much they run? |
| 02:01.18 | drmessano | Come on people, if you are gonna buy a damn phone, expect to pay money for it |
| 02:01.39 | KavanS | heh I understand this, just wondering if they are going to stick me for 60$ for a power adapter |
| 02:01.46 | drmessano | $15 |
| 02:02.05 | drmessano | or spend $500 or so and get a PoE switch |
| 02:02.30 | KavanS | ok 20$ |
| 02:02.40 | drmessano | or 15? |
| 02:03.41 | drmessano | http://www.telephonydepot.com/Catalog/IP-Phone-Accessories/Polycom-24v-AC-Power-Adapter |
| 02:04.53 | Naikrovek | uses Polycom phones almost exclusively and loves them. $80 for 2-line G.729 phones with LCD and integrated directory |
| 02:05.52 | KavanS | they connect via ldap or something? |
| 02:05.59 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 02:06.03 | KavanS | nice. |
| 02:06.14 | Naikrovek | to active directory or whatever else |
| 02:06.15 | KavanS | that is major win... |
| 02:06.25 | KavanS | I'm assuming openldap as well? |
| 02:06.35 | Naikrovek | hang on a sec, the company directory is a small fee above the regular phone price. like $6 i think |
| 02:06.40 | Naikrovek | let me find the link |
| 02:06.54 | KavanS | it'd be nice if it had ldap support built in... |
| 02:06.59 | KavanS | is this something you have to buy as an upgrade? |
| 02:07.16 | *** join/#asterisk AJayMN (i=aj@75.128.247.251) |
| 02:07.46 | AJayMN | Im trying to get the conference room to work on a system using dummy Dahdi but it just hangs up on me. Where can i look for the issue? |
| 02:07.52 | Naikrovek | KavanS: it's a license thing; you put a license file on the [t|f|ht]tp server |
| 02:08.12 | Naikrovek | $6.99 |
| 02:08.15 | Naikrovek | cheggit.net |
| 02:08.19 | Naikrovek | d'oh |
| 02:08.20 | Naikrovek | heh |
| 02:08.31 | Naikrovek | http://www.ipphone-warehouse.com/Polycom-Soundpoint-IP-321-2200-12360-025-p/2200-12360-025.htm |
| 02:09.37 | Naikrovek | per phone |
| 02:09.44 | KavanS | corporate directory included? |
| 02:09.49 | drmessano | Thats pretty slick |
| 02:09.59 | drmessano | [22:08] <Naikrovek> KavanS: it's a license thing; you put a license file on the [t|f|ht]tp server |
| 02:10.00 | drmessano | [22:08] <Naikrovek> $6.99 |
| 02:10.14 | drmessano | http://www.ipphone-warehouse.com/Polycom-Productivity-Suite-for-Soundpoint-IP-Phone-p/5150-47232-001.htm |
| 02:10.47 | Naikrovek | phone is pretty bad-ass anyway. and if you don't want to spend $7 per phone you can manually create the corp directory in a .xml file that the phone will use as its directory |
| 02:11.00 | Naikrovek | KavanS: with the productivity license it is |
| 02:11.09 | drmessano | heh |
| 02:11.32 | Naikrovek | but the phone auto-downloads a contacts.xml file each time it boots; you can put whatever you want in there |
| 02:11.49 | Naikrovek | so if you have a perl script or something that can read the directory and output the xml required, you can have the directory without the license |
| 02:12.28 | KavanS | Naikrovek, that sounds like a plan |
| 02:12.37 | KavanS | I don't really need up to the minute ldap updates |
| 02:12.42 | KavanS | people's extensions stay the same... |
| 02:12.50 | KavanS | once a day xml download is fine or once a phone reboot |
| 02:12.51 | LiNeTuX | Or, you could use an Aastra phone and just use the contacts that are in your Asterisk system automagically. |
| 02:12.56 | drmessano | You can also make a power supply for the phones using old Airplane batteries |
| 02:13.20 | *** join/#asterisk Nugget (i=nugget@72.251.195.236) |
| 02:13.26 | LiNeTuX | No licenses or special perl scripts need apply :) |
| 02:13.38 | Naikrovek | $79.99 for a PoE capable 2-line sip phone that is crazy configurable is a deal, in my eyes |
| 02:13.40 | Naikrovek | ~phones |
| 02:13.41 | infobot | While personal preference will dictate which phone works best for you, general consensus on a rough order of quality and suggestibility is as follows: Polycom (any), Aastra 480i, Aastra 5i Series, Cisco 7940+, Linksys SPA-9XX, Snom, and finally everything else. Do not consider Grandstream phones. Ever. |
| 02:13.41 | drmessano | I can send you some docs if you like |
| 02:13.49 | *** part/#asterisk AJayMN (i=aj@75.128.247.251) |
| 02:15.07 | KavanS | yeah definitely |
| 02:15.13 | KavanS | it sounds like these polycoms are the way to go |
| 02:15.16 | KavanS | I will order 1 and play with it |
| 02:15.40 | KavanS | if I can juke with this contacts.xml, that would be l33t as shit |
| 02:15.48 | Naikrovek | you definitely can |
| 02:15.49 | KavanS | just slapcat in a script I guess, and then create that once in awhile... |
| 02:16.23 | KavanS | drmessano, what docs are you referring to? |
| 02:16.39 | Naikrovek | get the phone downloading configs properly, put a folder named polycom/contacts in whatever directory you use for the phone configs, then add a contact on your phone through the menus. when it updates again it will put a contact list file in the directory |
| 02:16.57 | Naikrovek | you can use that to see the structure and add other entries |
| 02:17.03 | Naikrovek | next time the phone updates it'll pull them down |
| 02:17.12 | drmessano | KavanS: Polycom-power-from-aircraft-battery.pdf |
| 02:17.21 | drmessano | Want a copy? |
| 02:17.31 | Naikrovek | changes the user makes to the directory on their phone will get saved to the .xml file |
| 02:17.42 | Naikrovek | drmessano: i do :) |
| 02:18.07 | Naikrovek | KavanS: if you have PoE, just get the phone. If you don't get the $11 power cube thing |
| 02:18.14 | drmessano | The batteries are a bitch to keep topped off, but you'll save $15 |
| 02:18.18 | KavanS | don't have PoE ;\ |
| 02:18.54 | Naikrovek | if you have more than about 20 phones planned, poe would be wise |
| 02:19.15 | KavanS | yeah, I will prolly do poe down the road...but for now during testing I need to use an AC adapter |
| 02:19.27 | Naikrovek | cheaper per port once you're over about 20 phones |
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| 02:53.48 | drmessano | Qwell: You around? |
| 02:53.52 | Qwell | nope |
| 02:54.16 | drmessano | Any problems reported with the AsteriskNOW SFA 1.6 package? |
| 02:55.05 | drmessano | Got a guy who cant get DTMF working, and when he makes one call, thats it until he actually reboots fully |
| 02:55.20 | drmessano | Cant restart/reload asterisk to resolve.. Full reboot of the box |
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| 02:56.44 | drmessano | I cant test it on another box due to licensing issues :) |
| 02:57.12 | grahamsaa | hey all -- can anyone recommend a decent 4 port FXO card? |
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| 03:02.37 | Jymm | ~ata |
| 03:02.38 | infobot | ata is, like, Analogue Terminal Adapter which provides an FXS and/or FXO and ethernet, see http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/ATA |
| 03:04.21 | Qwell | drmessano: haven't seen anything |
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| 03:05.23 | Caplain | is there a way for someone to dial an extension and have it ring multiple sip devices? |
| 03:05.34 | jaytee | easy |
| 03:05.36 | jaytee | as |
| 03:05.37 | jaytee | pie |
| 03:06.14 | Caplain | Dial(SIP/1234,SIP/1235) ? |
| 03:06.59 | jaytee | Dial(SIP/1234&SIP1235) |
| 03:08.08 | fofware | I did install Asterix 1.4.21.2 on Debian Lenny, may some one tell me where i can find a how to for this version... because I get some ones but they not look for my version |
| 03:10.06 | grahamsaa | fofware -- I'm unaware of any version-specific howtos -- have you read "Asterisk: the future of telephony"? |
| 03:12.28 | Caplain | jaytee, that is easy as pie :) thanks |
| 03:13.10 | jaytee | you can even mix channel types Dial(SIP/1234&ZAP/2) |
| 03:13.47 | fofware | not I'm not I will read it, thanks <grahamsaa> I download it but I'm looking a shortcut, thanks |
| 03:13.51 | jaytee | or Dial(SIP/1234&DAHDI/1) if you're running 1.6 or 1.4 with dahdi |
| 03:14.12 | grahamsaa | it's a fairly easy read -- I finished it in a few hours |
| 03:15.03 | fofware | jejejejejejje, maybe you know english, jejejjejejjejejej |
| 03:15.29 | grahamsaa | ha, yes, knowing english helps |
| 03:15.30 | fofware | <grahamsaa> No problem, thanks I will read it, jejejjejejjejejje |
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| 03:16.50 | manxpower | ~answers |
| 03:16.51 | infobot | i guess answers is Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki: http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt |
| 03:18.26 | fofware | It have a 600 pages I did never read 600 pages at one in my language, jejejjejeje but I will read in english now jejejjejejje |
| 03:18.44 | grahamsaa | a lot of it can be skimmed |
| 03:18.52 | grahamsaa | what specific questions do you have? |
| 03:19.42 | fofware | no, don worry, I did install and I want configure it, but i don't have idea fron where start |
| 03:19.51 | fofware | don = don't |
| 03:20.24 | grahamsaa | ok, after you read the book you'll have a better idea. sorry I wasn't of more help |
| 03:21.32 | fofware | don't worry, It's ok <grahamsaa> you can't help If I don't have idea, thanks verry much |
| 03:22.34 | fofware | I'll be back tommorow after read and configure it if I have some issues |
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| 03:36.05 | FoxValley | anyone available to assist me with some questions? |
| 03:36.29 | grahamsaa | I'm fairly new FoxValley, but I'll do my best |
| 03:38.43 | FoxValley | essentially, I am in a very big bind and in desperate need of assistance. Our sysadmin quit and I was hired to fix a problem that I am unqualified for (and they knew this upfront). Our Asterisk server died, and I have built a new server with AsteriskNow 1.5. I beleive this is a package of CentoOS, Asterisk, and FreePBX. |
| 03:39.01 | grahamsaa | ok |
| 03:39.03 | FoxValley | I have installed the CD and need some help setting up devices, trunks, ect ect. |
| 03:39.04 | russellb | that is indeed what it is |
| 03:39.15 | FoxValley | I am using a Digium TDM2400P 24 port card. |
| 03:39.39 | FoxValley | I have 4 POTs lines coming in, and I need to configure all of this from scratch. |
| 03:40.00 | grahamsaa | what's your timeframe? |
| 03:40.03 | russellb | i don't know how to use freepbx :-( |
| 03:40.43 | FoxValley | Time frame was Friday. I get fired Monday if its not up (theoretically anyways) |
| 03:40.56 | grahamsaa | as I don't use freepbx I'm probably not the best person to help |
| 03:41.06 | grahamsaa | have you read the asterisk book? |
| 03:41.30 | FoxValley | I have the Adobe version of it, and am reading as best I can. |
| 03:41.36 | mythicalbox | FoxValley: fyi, the freepbx team does offer paid support |
| 03:41.42 | grahamsaa | that won't give you much info on freepbx, but it will give you a lot of information on the internals of asterisk, plus information on how to build a system |
| 03:41.57 | grahamsaa | did your sysadmin quit _and_ torch the system? |
| 03:42.05 | grahamsaa | or did he quit before it was configured to begin with? |
| 03:42.42 | FoxValley | I am unsure which. I do not think he was malicious but he left the company with an e-mail stating that he was "in over his head" |
| 03:43.20 | grahamsaa | do your phones work at all now? |
| 03:43.40 | grahamsaa | you mentioned configuring from scratch . . . unless he torched the system that shouldn't be necessary, especially if it was working before |
| 03:43.43 | FoxValley | I have hardwired the POTs lines to 3 desks, the 4th I am using the test the system. |
| 03:44.07 | FoxValley | The phone system went down a few days ago, and we lot the abillity to have calls. |
| 03:44.11 | FoxValley | lost |
| 03:44.38 | grahamsaa | i would consider looking into paid support or finding someone in your area with experience to take the work on contract |
| 03:45.05 | grahamsaa | if you're doing this for business and it's your first time working on an asterisk system i doubt you can have a reliable mission-critical system up and running by monday |
| 03:45.19 | grahamsaa | in other words, the sysadmin quit because he was in over his head |
| 03:45.23 | grahamsaa | and now you're in over your head |
| 03:45.42 | FoxValley | Unfortunately they have given me the choice of google, or leave the company as well. suggested just outsourcing the work and was given a very stern scolding as a response. |
| 03:46.27 | grahamsaa | sounds like whoever is managing their IT services is a bonehead |
| 03:46.34 | FoxValley | Over my head, absolutly. But I am determined to get it working - keeping my job as the primary motivating factor. |
| 03:46.52 | grahamsaa | well, read "asterisk: the future of telephony" |
| 03:46.58 | grahamsaa | it's long, but you can skim it |
| 03:47.03 | coppice | isn't "whoever is managing their IT services is a bonehead" the industry standard these days? |
| 03:47.05 | FoxValley | *Nods* I am reading as we speak. |
| 03:47.18 | russellb | well, by monday, I don't know how much time there is to read :-) |
| 03:47.32 | russellb | if you're willing to scratch FreePBX and do a core asterisk install, you can probably get pointers here. |
| 03:47.33 | grahamsaa | I read the book in one night (out of necessity) |
| 03:47.44 | grahamsaa | I would agree with russellb |
| 03:47.49 | russellb | grahamsaa: ah, nice. |
| 03:47.58 | grahamsaa | scratch freepbx |
| 03:49.03 | russellb | alternatively, I think there is a #freepbx channel |
| 03:49.06 | russellb | and they have forums, as well |
| 03:49.10 | grahamsaa | foxvalley -- if they're going to fire you for not being able to do something that they knew you weren't qualified to do from the beginning, I'm sorry to say it, but it doesn't sound like a job worth keeping |
| 03:49.31 | FoxValley | I wish i could. I was also given the suggestion of using Trixbox as well. Unfortunately the situation is I was given the CD and said use this as my only option. that CD was the AsteriskNow 1.5 CD. |
| 03:49.47 | FoxValley | the FreePBX room suggestion i come here for some of the initial configuration. |
| 03:49.49 | russellb | goodness, well AsteriskNOW is the best choice of the freepbx options |
| 03:50.17 | grahamsaa | back in a few |
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| 03:53.42 | drmessano | He needs a basic dahdi config.. Not sure what the disconnect is |
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| 03:55.14 | scalex000 | hello |
| 03:55.23 | FoxValley | I ran dahdi_genconf |
| 03:55.39 | FoxValley | Is that supposed to generate the config? |
| 03:55.40 | drmessano | What happened to the config I gave you? |
| 03:55.58 | FoxValley | I put it into place, and restarted the service. |
| 03:56.51 | drmessano | Great, well if you need anything else, let us know |
| 03:56.52 | FoxValley | created the file zapata.conf with the information you sent me - and then did amportal restart |
| 03:56.59 | drmessano | ..... |
| 03:57.20 | drmessano | You created zapata.conf ... for dahdi? |
| 03:57.29 | russellb | zapata.conf doesn't exist anymore |
| 03:57.41 | russellb | /etc/dahdi/system.conf and /etc/asterisk/chan_dahdi.conf are what you're looking for |
| 03:57.45 | drmessano | I gave you about 20 lines of echo commands to create and write your config out |
| 03:58.20 | FoxValley | *nods* |
| 03:58.37 | drmessano | Did you run them? |
| 03:58.43 | FoxValley | yes |
| 03:58.53 | drmessano | and? |
| 03:59.15 | FoxValley | I do not see any changes in productivity |
| 03:59.52 | FoxValley | I am under the impression I have to create a trunk? |
| 04:00.03 | drmessano | That would be incorrect |
| 04:00.13 | drmessano | Not for inbound, at least |
| 04:00.24 | drmessano | and thats becoming a #freepbx topic |
| 04:00.28 | scalex000 | I need help about Asterisk. I install asterisk on Fedora 11 using a Sangoma A400, my problem is when I reboot the system I cannot dial out, I need to disconnect and connect the line. Any suggestion? |
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| 04:01.05 | russellb | problem 1) fedora. problem 2) the use of the sangoma card. :-p |
| 04:01.29 | drmessano | FoxValley: Go back to #freePBX pls |
| 04:01.35 | FoxValley | yes sir |
| 04:01.35 | russellb | you should probably contact them for support. It doesn't sound like an Asterisk issue. |
| 04:01.41 | drmessano | Tough love time.. But he'll be employed tomorrow |
| 04:01.45 | drmessano | ;) |
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| 04:03.08 | grahamsaa | drmessano - true true |
| 04:03.31 | grahamsaa | I can't believe a company would ask someone with zero experience to set up a mission critical service over a weekend |
| 04:03.41 | grahamsaa | it's a recipe for disaster |
| 04:04.41 | scalex000 | russello: any Idea? the asterisk said occupied tone. |
| 04:04.57 | russellb | looks around for russello |
| 04:05.04 | russellb | my idea is to contact sangoma support |
| 04:05.58 | scalex000 | russello: its possible I made a mistake on setup |
| 04:06.17 | scalex000 | russello: maybe I need to download the last driver |
| 04:07.23 | drmessano | The last vs the latest? |
| 04:07.28 | drmessano | Oh god, are they going under? |
| 04:07.32 | drmessano | sells all his stock |
| 04:07.35 | grahamsaa | ha! |
| 04:08.20 | russellb | there's only one download left, you better grab it |
| 04:08.20 | drmessano | TORRENT PLZ |
| 04:09.20 | drmessano | I can put that up along with AsTeRiSk_1.6_SOURCE_CODE_TeAm_CAPSLOCK_with-NFO.tar.gz.rar |
| 04:09.58 | grahamsaa | drmessano -- is that [k]ed or do you have a serial? :p |
| 04:10.00 | russellb | lol .. |
| 04:10.15 | russellb | i have a keygen |
| 04:10.28 | TJNII | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:10.32 | drmessano | I have a crack that registers it as Russell Spencer |
| 04:10.35 | grahamsaa | ooh I love keygens |
| 04:10.39 | TJNII | That didn't work......... |
| 04:10.43 | *** part/#asterisk Jymm (i=jim@unaffiliated/jymmm) |
| 04:10.43 | grahamsaa | I hope it includes a keylogger! |
| 04:11.16 | drmessano | grahamsaa: vonage.exe is NOT a keylogger.... .... ...... . ... ... much |
| 04:11.27 | drmessano | Just run it :) |
| 04:12.22 | grahamsaa | riiiiiight |
| 04:12.36 | russellb | i don't care if you torrent our warez ... i'm almost done with the new version that's in bash, anyway |
| 04:12.44 | drmessano | Ignore the suspicious EXE in a tarball for a linux app |
| 04:12.49 | drmessano | Just run it pls |
| 04:13.00 | drmessano | lol |
| 04:13.04 | grahamsaa | i was just trying to figure out how to run it in linux |
| 04:13.19 | grahamsaa | if I do ./vonage.exe will that work? |
| 04:13.26 | grahamsaa | I've already done chmod +x |
| 04:13.44 | drmessano | If you run it, your asterisk box will turn into a funky glowing orange ATA |
| 04:14.02 | grahamsaa | ooh pretty |
| 04:14.08 | grahamsaa | but no thanks :) |
| 04:14.14 | drmessano | checks google for chan_vonage before dissing them.. Learned his lesson with Skype |
| 04:14.41 | russellb | :-p |
| 04:14.54 | drmessano | I will admit.. I have come around on the utility of it |
| 04:15.17 | russellb | skype just ... works so well |
| 04:15.33 | russellb | i can see admins just using it to avoid having to deal with soft phone support on people's laptops |
| 04:16.10 | grahamsaa | speaking of voip |
| 04:16.18 | grahamsaa | anyone done any google voice integration with asterisk? |
| 04:16.22 | russellb | zomgvoip |
| 04:16.23 | drmessano | Well, my first project is a home one.. putting my mother in law on Skype.. She can have her home phone back she decided she didnt want.. and be able to run the client on her laptop when shes at the beach |
| 04:16.25 | drmessano | Win, win |
| 04:16.38 | russellb | nice |
| 04:16.58 | russellb | yeah, i really want a license for myself ... |
| 04:17.17 | drmessano | Get one from the supply closet, duh |
| 04:17.23 | drmessano | You _work_ there |
| 04:17.25 | russellb | of course! |
| 04:17.39 | russellb | that doesn't mean we get everything for free :-) |
| 04:17.39 | drmessano | Pen, check.. Legal pad, check.. |
| 04:17.47 | drmessano | Skype for Asterisk license, check |
| 04:18.32 | drmessano | Marko doesnt bounce down the hallway on one of those orange bouncy balls throwing TDM cards and licenses at you guys? |
| 04:18.38 | drmessano | My image of Digium is shattered |
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| 04:19.11 | russellb | heh, very close though |
| 04:19.15 | russellb | you should come visit, sometime. |
| 04:19.34 | russellb | we can make Qwell give you a tour |
| 04:19.47 | drmessano | That may be difficult |
| 04:20.05 | drmessano | What if he runs like hell from me like he did the last time I saw him? |
| 04:20.07 | russellb | restraining order? |
| 04:20.10 | drmessano | I could get lost :( |
| 04:20.38 | russellb | okay, sleep time. later. |
| 04:20.42 | drmessano | Later man |
| 04:20.46 | grahamsaa | night russell |
| 04:22.56 | drmessano | Ran into Qwell and JSmith at an install fest put on by the Atlanta Asterisk group |
| 04:23.14 | drmessano | Surreal.. Went from really cool demos to BOREDOM in like 5 mins |
| 04:23.32 | drmessano | Been to a lot of trade shows, etc.. but never been that close to sleep, ever |
| 04:23.45 | drmessano | Guy that was with me actually fell out completely |
| 04:23.51 | drmessano | had to kick him to keep him from snoring |
| 04:23.57 | drmessano | I wont name the vendor |
| 04:24.01 | drmessano | But needless to say |
| 04:24.16 | drmessano | If your slides repeat constantly, you need more features or to be funnier |
| 04:24.47 | Qwell | drmessano: yeah... I managed to fall asleep at AstriCon one year |
| 04:24.57 | Qwell | wasn't even a vendor |
| 04:25.00 | drmessano | Do you know which vendor I am talking about? |
| 04:25.10 | Qwell | no |
| 04:25.28 | drmessano | Pika |
| 04:25.44 | Qwell | oh, yeah.. I've seen him talk a few times before |
| 04:26.24 | drmessano | I was kicking my buddy telling him "HE JUST SHOWED THAT SLIDE 5 MINS AGO.. COME ON" |
| 04:26.51 | coppice | Some people confuse earnestness with boredom when presenting |
| 04:26.56 | Qwell | "Feature: Variable thermal control" |
| 04:27.04 | Qwell | it's got a fan dude. just say that. |
| 04:27.25 | drmessano | "We've worked extensively integrating asterisk into our products" |
| 04:27.34 | drmessano | Translation: People install asterisk on here |
| 04:27.46 | drmessano | Now, reiterate that 10 different ways |
| 04:27.56 | drmessano | SLOWLY |
| 04:28.02 | *** part/#asterisk mumtazah (n=mumtazah@124.82.75.7) |
| 04:28.06 | coppice | extensively == it didn't go very smoothly. not something you ought to admit |
| 04:28.12 | drmessano | LOL |
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| 04:31.37 | drmessano | I swindled a USB Sangoma device out of him |
| 04:31.54 | drmessano | So it was worth the trip |
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| 04:35.34 | ricko73 | drmessano: you gotta know your audience and present for them. Sounds like this guy did a canned sales putz presentation |
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| 04:38.11 | drmessano | I think he was an engineer |
| 04:38.21 | drmessano | Engineers should NEVER be around customers |
| 04:38.23 | drmessano | EVER |
| 04:38.47 | drmessano | Engineers are creepy and have poor people skills.. BY DESIGN |
| 04:41.48 | coppice | if the non-engineers have good people skills, why do they so easily piss off the engineers? |
| 04:43.05 | drmessano | Because Engineers having poor people skills trumps all |
| 04:43.41 | coppice | oh, right, Trump has the world's worst people skills. |
| 04:44.53 | drmessano | lol |
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| 05:14.19 | ricko73 | drmessano: an outgoing engineer is one who looks at YOUR shoes (instead of his own) |
| 05:14.33 | ricko73 | has an engineering degree... |
| 05:14.54 | drmessano | ha |
| 05:15.07 | manxpower | "Why do you look at a person's mouth instead of their eyes when they are talking to you?" "Because that's where the sound comes from." |
| 05:16.07 | drmessano | End user sees the cup as half full, managment sees the cup as half empty, and engineering sees the cup as too large |
| 05:16.49 | ricko73 | drmessano: it's half full of water and the rest of the space is gas |
| 05:17.18 | ricko73 | empty implies a lack of matter which is not possible except perhaps in a blackhole |
| 05:17.28 | ricko73 | ;/ |
| 05:17.33 | drmessano | Thats not engineer, thats dork |
| 05:18.05 | ricko73 | hey we all watch STNG while in the dorms |
| 05:18.24 | ricko73 | those guys even scared me! |
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| 05:18.46 | ricko73 | wouldn't let you talk while the show was going on. Could only talk about the show during the commercials. |
| 05:18.58 | ricko73 | was a little too much for me |
| 05:19.21 | manxpower | ricko73: you should not talk during the show regardless of the program |
| 05:19.32 | ricko73 | bah |
| 05:20.11 | manxpower | 1) if you've seen the show before then why are you watching it again 2) if you have not seen the show before you might miss something important |
| 05:20.32 | drmessano | Engineering is not about how much you know, its about knowing more than everyone else |
| 05:20.55 | ricko73 | true...or knowing where to find the answers |
| 05:21.36 | drmessano | Not so much |
| 05:21.46 | ricko73 | which makes me wonder why asterisk-1.6.1.x uses --without-sdl while 1.6.2.x uses --without-SDL |
| 05:21.51 | drmessano | Thats still falls into what you know |
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| 05:22.15 | drmessano | Being right vs others being wrong |
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| 05:47.31 | kb3ien | how much does one have to rewrite one's dialplans etc to migrate form 1.4 to 1.6 ? i ask because 1.4 is horribly locked into linux; whereas pkgsrc has updated 1.6 quite a lot lately. |
| 05:52.08 | drmessano | Not a lot.. if only there were... |
| 05:52.15 | drmessano | ~answers |
| 05:52.15 | infobot | answers is, like, Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki: http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt |
| 06:09.49 | kb3ien | danke |
| 06:10.41 | kb3ien | i'd like to get my modem to answer a fax call, just not sure what the raw commands would be to negotiate a call as a fax machine. |
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| 06:37.55 | linagee | they run fiber through sewers? interesting... |
| 06:38.05 | linagee | must get nasty |
| 06:39.08 | linagee | probably no more nasty than what goes through the fibers though. lol |
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| 06:41.16 | coppice | linagee: yeah, especially if you eat a high fibre diet |
| 06:42.08 | linagee | coppice: is that true though? fiber in sewers? llol |
| 06:43.03 | coppice | yes. I don't know how many places do it, but it is done. If a fibre cable can survive under ocean, why not a sewer? |
| 06:43.26 | linagee | coppice: true. wouldn't it make the poop go slower though? hah |
| 06:44.10 | coppice | nah, as long as you keep your shit out of the way of the... er.... shit |
| 06:44.35 | linagee | coppice: like i was saying though. how funny that nasty stuff goes through the fiber and around the fibers. lol |
| 06:44.46 | linagee | coppice: i guess the internet is not all porn. maybe just like 80% |
| 06:45.23 | coppice | I guess youtube must have driven the porn percentage down a lot |
| 06:47.26 | linagee | coppice: when do you think we'll get 3D TV shows? heh |
| 06:47.55 | coppice | sky is launching a 24 hour 3D channel next year in .eu |
| 06:48.03 | linagee | coppice: no way. so, already?? |
| 06:48.33 | linagee | coppice: put two cameras on a set -> find some way to transmit both frames -> use a 3D ready TV -> active 3D shutter glasses -> popcorn |
| 06:49.00 | coppice | no glasses. the channel is for real 3D TVs |
| 06:49.10 | linagee | coppice: no glasses? |
| 06:49.25 | linagee | coppice: what is a "real 3D TV" and is it consumer yet |
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| 06:50.29 | coppice | Sharp and a couple of other people have had these for a while, as low volume experimental designs. looks like it could be going mainstream if the costs work out |
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| 06:51.50 | linagee | coppice: low volume is right |
| 06:52.05 | linagee | coppice: samsung already makes 3D ready TVs. nothing wrong with shutter glasses if the shutter is fast enough |
| 06:52.44 | coppice | but they aren't fast, and who wants to wear glasses if they can be eliminated |
| 06:52.54 | linagee | coppice: http://www.dlp.com/hdtv/3-d_dlp_hdtv.aspx |
| 06:53.00 | linagee | coppice: 120Hz is pretty fast |
| 06:53.44 | linagee | coppice: a DLP can refresh this fast because it uses mirrors and not LCDs |
| 06:54.44 | coppice | this is what the current 3D animated movies in the cinemas use, but using two polarised projectors and no shutter |
| 06:55.31 | linagee | coppice: 3D cinemas don't have special glasses you have to wear? |
| 06:56.10 | coppice | they do, but there is no shuttering. just a left horizontally polarised filter and a righ vertically polarised one |
| 06:56.39 | linagee | coppice: ah. seems silly unless you have a large audience. shutter should be better in theory |
| 06:56.51 | linagee | polarization adds artifacts but it's cheaper |
| 06:57.08 | coppice | shutters require cables. it would never fly for the mass market |
| 06:57.12 | linagee | coppice: no |
| 06:57.14 | linagee | coppice: IR |
| 06:57.30 | coppice | polarisation adds no artifacts at all |
| 06:57.31 | linagee | coppice: the shutter sync uses IR. that's why the glasses are so expensive. see the link. already exists too |
| 06:57.50 | coppice | so it requires powered glasses. still ain't gonna go mass amrket |
| 06:57.58 | linagee | coppice: i didn't really mean artifacts, but it's a "strange" effect. a fast enough shutter should seem impercivable |
| 06:58.30 | linagee | coppice: it's already in thousands of TVs out there. it doesn't need mass market. it just needs people to be aware there's a $100 kit that works with their existing TV. lol |
| 06:58.48 | coppice | wrong way around. the polarisation can't be perceived at all by the eye. the shutters don't switch instantly, and there are serious atrifacts |
| 06:59.12 | linagee | coppice: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Overview.html |
| 06:59.51 | linagee | coppice: see their chart at the bottom. "Wireless Shutter glasses" |
| 07:00.27 | coppice | in the end anything involving glasses is a novelty, but the sharp system could become the normal TV in a few years, unless people demand really thin panels on their walls. the sharp system requires a fairly deep box |
| 07:00.42 | linagee | coppice: a novelty that already exists in people's TVs? |
| 07:01.01 | linagee | coppice: they bought into it without even knowing it. lol |
| 07:01.08 | coppice | yeah, you're really going to wear glasses to watch the news, aren't you :-) |
| 07:01.20 | linagee | coppice: if there's a 3D news program |
| 07:01.34 | linagee | coppice: but more likely a movie or TV show. if they have such a thing yet |
| 07:02.04 | coppice | so, its a novelty for special shows. its not a 24 hour broadcast thing |
| 07:02.21 | linagee | coppice: when you view it on your computer without the proper decoding player, it appears as just two movies side by side. the player puts them in different frames |
| 07:02.33 | linagee | coppice: why can't it be a 24 hour broadcast thing? |
| 07:03.21 | coppice | look, if the glasses can be elimated at a workable cost, they will. that should be obvious |
| 07:03.27 | linagee | oh cool. there are places to test drive. :-D |
| 07:03.30 | linagee | coppice: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Test_Drive_Centers.html |
| 07:03.40 | linagee | coppice: I know what I'm going to be doing this weekend. :) |
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| 07:04.23 | linagee | coppice: you don't get it. "what works" |
| 07:04.34 | linagee | "use what works" even |
| 07:04.45 | coppice | oh, it could certainly be big for gaming. it would add a lot to gaming. |
| 07:05.02 | coppice | you don't get it. glasses free 3D exists today |
| 07:05.06 | linagee | coppice: maybe there will be something newer and better, but this works here and now |
| 07:05.17 | linagee | coppice: but glasses free displays are very expensive |
| 07:05.41 | coppice | people aren't putting the IR interface in low end TVs |
| 07:05.49 | linagee | coppice: ??? $1000 is a fairly low end TV |
| 07:05.57 | linagee | coppice: that glasses free TV might cost $10,000 |
| 07:06.29 | coppice | well, sky expect to broadcast a year from now with glasses free TVs |
| 07:06.45 | linagee | coppice: i can see it sucking depending on where you are viewing it from |
| 07:07.06 | linagee | coppice: the guy who sits in the center of the couch will have the best viewing. people who sit to the right and left of him will have a distorted view |
| 07:07.35 | linagee | coppice: moving your head will make it look "no longer 3D" |
| 07:07.41 | coppice | I've only seen one demo, but that wasn't the case |
| 07:08.28 | linagee | coppice: did they say what the estimated retail price would be? unlikely they could deliver it for $1000 |
| 07:09.12 | coppice | the only limitation I saw was the glasses system can make objects come right up to your face. everything I saw in the demo lay behind the screen |
| 07:09.39 | linagee | coppice: I'm not saying glasses free TVs won't ever dominate. I'm saying 3D ready TVs will dominate this year or next |
| 07:10.48 | linagee | coppice: combine that with video conferencing and I would have to ask, when will asterisk support 3D conferencing? LOL |
| 07:14.40 | coppice | I doubt video conferencing would gain much from 3D. It gains enormously from multi-channel audio, though |
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| 07:16.30 | jkroon | linagee, considering that the 3D will probably just be part of the rtp encoded video stream I'm guessing it's already supported :p |
| 07:16.49 | linagee | jkroon: i hope so. that would be awesome |
| 07:17.26 | jkroon | anyway, i've got a client with a sip client that passes a call to user@some_other_domain to my asterisk server as a proxy. |
| 07:17.45 | linagee | you could swing your arm pretending to punch the person on the other side and they'd be like "whoa! *duck*" |
| 07:17.58 | jkroon | now in the dialplan it goes to user ... is it possible to get hold of some_other_domain somehow so that I can try passing the call to SIP/user@some_other_domain ? |
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| 07:25.13 | manxpower | I don't see in 3D even in real life. |
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| 07:25.42 | coppice | take off that cool pirate look eye patch |
| 07:27.45 | manxpower | driving without stereoscopic depth perception can be....interesting |
| 07:27.45 | jkroon | manxpower, yea well, go outside, a computer screen isn't real life :p |
| 07:27.47 | m477au | anyone had experience with sangoma A102 ? |
| 07:29.39 | jkroon | ok, let me rephrase this, when I get passed a call for say foo@bar.com and my domain is example.com ... asterisk still accepts that call (is this a misconfiguration?) and drops me in foo,${context},1 in the dialplan, how can I recover the bar.com part so as to establish a SIP connection to the servers for bar.com and complete the call? |
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| 07:31.23 | manxpower | jkroon: recent asterisks have an allowguest= option. By default calls will be accepted from anyone and drop in the context= you have in [default]. You should be able to get everything you want about the call from the SIPGetHeader (I don't recall the exact function or application name) |
| 07:31.29 | maour_ | where is my problem ?! http://pastebin.ca/1548024 CLI>odbc show don't show anything |
| 07:31.59 | manxpower | jkroon: I always set context=INVALID in [general] to avoid the issue. |
| 07:32.15 | manxpower | If I want to handle those calls I create a [INVALID] in the dialplan |
| 07:32.31 | jkroon | manxpower, that's for inbound, will add that later. I've got a client (with valid credentials) who is insisting that he must be able to dial conference@movial.com via my server. |
| 07:32.47 | jkroon | so I'm trying to entertain him, and obviously charge him for the privilege. |
| 07:33.35 | manxpower | jkroon: I don't see how that invalidates my suggestion |
| 07:33.50 | manxpower | all calls you receive are inbound. |
| 07:34.19 | jkroon | because he authenticates, and let's use bob as his user with context=bob drops the call in conference,bob,1 in the dialplan. |
| 07:34.48 | manxpower | exten => conference,1,Meetme() |
| 07:35.12 | manxpower | There is no reason an "extension" has to be a number. |
| 07:35.12 | jkroon | ah no, that would be too easy, he wants to connect to the movial.com conference facility. |
| 07:35.54 | jkroon | i know, i pick up the conference part and can do stuff with that, but I need to know that the requested domain was movial.com in order to just pass the call on to Dial(SIP/conference@movial.com) |
| 07:35.59 | manxpower | jkroon: exten => conference,1,Set(REAL=SIPGetHeader(To:) parse it out, run a dial |
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| 07:36.22 | jkroon | manxpower, exactly what I was hoping to avoid :( |
| 07:36.34 | jkroon | but thanks, at least now I've got something to play with. |
| 07:36.35 | manxpower | jkroon: stupid stuff usually requires more work. |
| 07:37.00 | jkroon | manxpower, yea, he really aught to fix his client to just contact movial direct. |
| 07:37.01 | manxpower | jkroon: NEVER think you can ever make a simple dialplan on a production server. |
| 07:37.40 | jkroon | manxpower, i don't call ~5500 lines worth of dialplan simple. |
| 07:39.00 | manxpower | Me neither, but you'd be surprised at how many people get upset when exten => _XXX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}) is not enough for a real dialplan |
| 07:41.27 | jkroon | what bugs me up now is that a lot of _X. parts that I have will need to be changed to _[0-9a-z]. type of thing. |
| 07:42.00 | jkroon | and immediately this also begs the question re case sensitivity, is JKroon == jkroon ? |
| 07:42.07 | maour_ | anybody don't know where is my problem ?! http://pastebin.ca/1548024 even $isql -v asterisk-connector user welcome works for me but i can't see CLI>odbc show output :p |
| 07:48.55 | jkroon | manxpower, it's ${SIP_HEADER(To)} btw, which gets me <sip:conference@movial.com> which is something I can use ... |
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| 07:57.32 | jkroon | are there any benifits of using minivm over normal voicemail? |
| 07:57.33 | _trine | are the sp30 cards out of date now |
| 07:58.13 | jkroon | also, is it possible to get voicemail to not distinguish between busy, unavailable and default, in other words, to always be the same message, and not allow the user to record different messages. |
| 07:58.54 | jkroon | I just want the client to record a single voicemail prompt instead of three different ones. |
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| 08:08.23 | _trine | if I wanted to buy a card suitable for asterisk on a home system is there anything better I should consider than an sp30 card? |
| 08:11.54 | maour | is there any problem of asterisk-stat-v2 with php5 ? |
| 08:12.08 | maour | should i use php4 ? or 5 works fine ? |
| 08:13.10 | Joel | _trine any card made by digium or sangoma. |
| 08:14.21 | _trine | Joel, I'm very new to asterisk can you recommend a particular card for me? |
| 08:14.59 | Joel | _trine sure, any card by digium or asterisk. |
| 08:15.09 | Joel | err |
| 08:15.13 | Joel | _trine sure, any card by digium or sangoma. |
| 08:15.24 | _trine | I was thinking of giving asterisk a try also using my router and my spa3000 but at the moment I'm not sure if that would work |
| 08:16.59 | manxpower | coppice: ping |
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| 08:20.42 | _trine | Joel, has this channel got commercial links with digium or sangoma |
| 08:21.43 | _trine | or is there just nothing else |
| 08:23.11 | _trine | and part of my question was is the sp30 worth considering these days |
| 08:23.29 | _trine | or is it out of date |
| 08:24.16 | mythicalbox | _trine: yes, several of the chanel ops are digium employees.. plus asterisk is sponsered and managed by digium |
| 08:24.45 | _trine | I see |
| 08:24.51 | mythicalbox | *are/were |
| 08:26.08 | _trine | I'm more used to the channels supporting routers etc |
| 08:27.59 | manxpower | _trine: http://www.asterisk.org/support/hardware |
| 08:28.15 | _trine | thanks ,, let me look |
| 08:28.19 | manxpower | I only recommend Digium and Sangoma for several reasons |
| 08:28.50 | jkroon | those would be? |
| 08:28.54 | manxpower | The most important is because if you use cards that are not from Digium or Sangoma almost nobody will be familiar with them and you'll get almost no support from the community. |
| 08:29.50 | jkroon | that is a very, very good reason. |
| 08:29.51 | manxpower | Voicetronix and Rhino also make Zaptel compat cards, but few people use them. |
| 08:31.19 | _trine | manxpower, out of the ones sold by Digium or Sangoma which would be most suitable for someone like me who just wants to learn and experiment with asterisk at home? |
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| 08:33.17 | CrashSys | Anyone know how to debug why ztdummy wont load on boot? It's OpenSuSE v.11.0 with Kernel 2.6.25.20 |
| 08:33.42 | coppice | manxpower: pong |
| 08:34.26 | manxpower | coppice: I noticed the ChangeLog for spandsp 0.0.6 only goes up to 0.0.4 8-) |
| 08:34.47 | coppice | could be. |
| 08:34.50 | Joel | _trine skip the cart and get a sip account. |
| 08:34.53 | Joel | card* |
| 08:34.55 | Joel | night all. |
| 08:35.04 | manxpower | coppice: any changes I should worry about? |
| 08:35.31 | _trine | Joel, I already have a sip account if that means voipstunt |
| 08:35.53 | coppice | well, anything earlier than 0.0.6pre12 has more bugs than 0.0.6pre12 |
| 08:36.19 | manxpower | coppice: I'll take that as a "no" |
| 08:36.35 | coppice | what are you using now? |
| 08:37.57 | manxpower | coppice: not using spandsp at all at the moment |
| 08:38.21 | coppice | then start with 0.0.6pre12 |
| 08:38.31 | manxpower | I assume I can't build --with-sse2 on a system that has no sse2, even though it will be run on a machine with sse2 |
| 08:39.08 | coppice | untrue. the compiler will produce SSE2 code, provided its a new enough compiler |
| 08:39.37 | manxpower | awesome. I'll pastebin the build error I'm getting when it gets to that error again |
| 08:39.43 | coppice | what archaic system are you using, that lacks SSE2? |
| 08:40.13 | manxpower | gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-44) <-- new enough compiler? |
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| 08:40.25 | coppice | yep |
| 08:40.29 | manxpower | CPU0: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ stepping 02 |
| 08:41.19 | coppice | that's the one where overclocking means an oversized key for the clockwork, isn't it? |
| 08:41.50 | manxpower | no idea, I'm not an overclocker |
| 08:42.57 | linagee | overclocking clockwork of orange? |
| 08:43.05 | coppice | I've spend the last couple of hours setting up a new machine for our son, to replace his XP1600+ machine |
| 08:43.38 | linagee | or I guess -of |
| 08:43.47 | linagee | coppice: wow that's slow |
| 08:43.52 | manxpower | ./configure && make works. ./configure --with-sse2 && make generates: |
| 08:43.55 | manxpower | ./make_modem_filter -m V.17 -i -r >v17rx_fixed_rrc.h |
| 08:43.55 | manxpower | /bin/sh: line 1: 21125 Illegal instruction ./make_modem_filter -m V.17 -i -r > v17rx_fixed_rrc.h |
| 08:43.56 | linagee | coppice: what's the new one? core i7? P:) |
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| 08:44.40 | linagee | coppice: core i7, 12GB ram, and SSD drives? :) |
| 08:44.57 | coppice | manxpower: ah, yes, I didn't think of that. It builds a couple of programs which are run to churn out source code |
| 08:44.59 | linagee | lusts |
| 08:46.06 | manxpower | coppice: any way to work around it other than to build on a machine with sse2 or don't --with-sse2? |
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| 08:49.55 | manxpower | new technology is overrated 8-) |
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| 09:22.57 | CrashSys | POS... ztdummy is not loading from my init script :( |
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| 09:23.47 | CrashSys | and 'show transcoders' isn't working with the TC400b |
| 09:24.47 | manxpower | CrashSys: make sure you do a "make config" if you upgrade zaptel, that will update the init script |
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| 09:25.13 | manxpower | I bet your old init script doesn't load zttranscode (needed for the TC400b) |
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| 09:25.44 | manxpower | be sure to rmmod all the zaptel, etc modules before running the new init script |
| 09:25.48 | CrashSys | I see all the modules loaded for the TC400B, but show transcoders does nothing |
| 09:25.57 | CrashSys | Asterisk 1.4.21.2, Zaptel 1.4.12.1 |
| 09:26.13 | manxpower | CrashSys: is zttranscode loaded? |
| 09:26.29 | CrashSys | Yup |
| 09:26.48 | CrashSys | when I do a make menuconfig in asterisk it wont let me compile the codec_zap |
| 09:28.37 | CrashSys | yup, zttranscode is loaded |
| 09:30.52 | CrashSys | Somehow the system is automatically loading wctc4xxp... In my init script i'm just modprobe ztdummy |
| 09:31.00 | CrashSys | and I get nothing in any logs |
| 09:42.42 | manxpower | edit the modules out of /etc/sysconfig/zaptel |
| 09:43.38 | manxpower | remove the asterisk source dir and unpack from source again. I don't remember how to make the build system figure out something changed |
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| 10:11.11 | jkroon | for voicemail - i take it asterisk needs to decode the actual voice stream in order to detect this silence? |
| 10:11.22 | jkroon | (in particular, g729 ...) |
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| 10:18.58 | FlaPer87 | what are the chan_console.so module dependencies? I'm using archlinux and there's no alsa-devel package, I've installed alsa and alsa-plugins |
| 10:19.09 | FlaPer87 | any idea of what should I have installed |
| 10:19.11 | FlaPer87 | ? |
| 10:19.15 | tzafrir_laptop | ztdummy will be loaded if no span is found |
| 10:19.21 | tzafrir_laptop | CrashSys, ==^ |
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| 10:21.00 | CrashSys | tzafrir_laptop: I'm not using the zaptel init script |
| 10:21.35 | CrashSys | My init-script worked find until a TC400B was put into the server |
| 10:22.28 | CrashSys | Now the wctc4xxp module auto-loads, even though my init-script calls just ztdummy |
| 10:22.42 | CrashSys | Damn I hate G729 |
| 10:27.57 | FlaPer87 | found, It depends on portaudio |
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| 10:34.49 | ibreakthings | i have installed asterisk and i try to start it up i get manager.c:3250 init_manager: unable to bind socket |
| 10:35.01 | ibreakthings | what can i do to resolve this |
| 10:35.31 | manxpower | jkroon: you'd be surprized at how useless g729 passthru can be |
| 10:35.59 | manxpower | FlaPer87: you need the alsa development header files. Figure out what package they are in for your distro |
| 10:36.11 | jkroon | no, i won't. there are too many places where it simply falls flat. |
| 10:36.19 | jkroon | eg, voicemail. |
| 10:36.33 | manxpower | jkroon: licenses are very cheap |
| 10:37.25 | jkroon | you're a good sales person. |
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| 10:43.58 | manxpower | jkroon: I've been using/installing almost constantly Asterisk since late 2001, I just have a bit of experience with it. |
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| 10:44.50 | jkroon | now why did i have in my head that you work for digium? guess assumptions are worse than i thought. |
| 10:44.55 | jkroon | anyway, i'm late, gotta run. |
| 10:47.17 | manxpower | ~manxpower |
| 10:47.18 | infobot | ManxPower has been using Asterisk in production since late 2001. Currently works at InterGlobe Communications, a CLEC based in NYC with service in NY, NJ, FL, and TX. http://www.nyigc.com |
| 10:47.37 | FlaPer87 | I now installed chan_console but I still don't have dial command |
| 10:47.50 | FlaPer87 | any Idea about how can I enable that command? |
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| 11:00.33 | FlaPer87 | how can I know why a module load failed? |
| 11:01.19 | FlaPer87 | http://pastebin.com/d567a879e |
| 11:02.30 | FlaPer87 | http://pastebin.com/m371034a5 |
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| 11:10.47 | FlaPer87 | I unloaded chan_alsa chan_oss and just loaded chan_console.so but nothing I don't have the dial command |
| 11:10.49 | FlaPer87 | crap |
| 11:18.37 | manxpower | FlaPer87: "help" in the CLI is your friend |
| 11:18.52 | FlaPer87 | manxpower I used help dial and nothing showed up |
| 11:19.15 | manxpower | does "core show modules" show chan_console.so |
| 11:19.17 | FlaPer87 | I mean, I just saw the dialplan command |
| 11:20.06 | FlaPer87 | manxpower I don't have core show modules |
| 11:20.23 | FlaPer87 | module show like chan_console |
| 11:20.25 | manxpower | FlaPer87: what version of asterisk are yo using? |
| 11:20.26 | FlaPer87 | shows chan_console |
| 11:20.28 | FlaPer87 | 1.6 |
| 11:20.54 | manxpower | what does "show version" give you? |
| 11:21.21 | FlaPer87 | I don't have show version |
| 11:21.28 | FlaPer87 | sorry |
| 11:21.30 | FlaPer87 | core show version |
| 11:21.32 | FlaPer87 | gave me |
| 11:21.37 | FlaPer87 | Asterisk 1.6.0.9 built by root @ r2-d2 on a i686 running Linux on 2009-08-27 19:23:15 UTC |
| 11:21.59 | manxpower | I have no more suggestions. I wish you the best of luck. |
| 11:22.12 | FlaPer87 | manxpower hehehehe, ok ok, thanks anyway |
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| 11:42.53 | ibreakthings | i now have asterisk and asterisk-gui installed on the gamecube.. but when i enter http://192.168.1.144:8088/asterisk/static/config/cfgbasic.html in the browser i get Not Found nothing to see here move along i looked for a solution and come up dry. any hints? |
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| 11:44.45 | bluOxigen | need help - how to configure spa3120 to recive calls from PSTN to my designed voip extention |
| 11:48.15 | FlaPer87 | hmm I see this message http://pastebin.com/d56b12f5e |
| 11:48.26 | FlaPer87 | but there's context=mycontext in the config file |
| 11:48.26 | FlaPer87 | =S |
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| 13:05.13 | FlaPer87 | hey guys, I'm using messagenet as provider but something strange is happening. If I use messagenet just for incoming calls everything works perfectly, If I add the configs to make outbound calls too then the incoming calls are always busy |
| 13:05.45 | FlaPer87 | did it happen (with another/same provider) to any of you? |
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| 13:12.03 | ibreakthings | when i log into asterisk-gui it hangs @ checking write permission for gui folder |
| 13:12.24 | ibreakthings | have i done somthing wrong? |
| 13:15.10 | FlaPer87 | is there a way on inbound context to hangup the call and recall inmediately the person that was calling? |
| 13:15.22 | FlaPer87 | If I execute Hangup the context ends |
| 13:15.46 | tzafrir_laptop | ibreakthings, hangs as in loops? |
| 13:16.18 | ibreakthings | just sits there |
| 13:16.45 | [TK]D-Fender | FlaPer87: You have to initiate the callback process just prior to hanging up. Go read up on "call files" , "AMI Originate", "core show application originate" (1.6+) |
| 13:17.40 | ibreakthings | tzafrir_laptop there is a post small mind you that says /var/lib/asterisk/static-http is owned by root and the user asterisk cannot write to it.. |
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| 13:18.44 | ibreakthings | and i'm not that experienced with shell commands to set permissions |
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| 13:22.49 | FlaPer87 | [TK]D-Fender I don't have originate |
| 13:24.51 | [TK]D-Fender | FlaPer87: You have all the others |
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| 13:35.43 | hershel | I have a ZAP channel setup, an FXO on my TDM410P card. The other day it worked--I would call and askterisk would answer. today I do it and nothing happens. even my asterisk console register anything. |
| 13:35.53 | hershel | but the zap show channels and show status seems to be good. |
| 13:38.59 | hershel | i try zap restart and it says unable to open channel. unable to register channel. reload channels failed. I restarted asterisk but I get the same thing. and I just booted this machine up 3 minutes ago. why could it be devide or resource busy? :( |
| 13:41.19 | hershel | answer is: modprobe zaptel Thank you for listening anyhow. :) |
| 13:46.59 | ibreakthings | is there a solution to the constand hang of Checking write permission for gui folder after logging into asterisk-gui? |
| 13:51.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ibreakthings: This is not a GUI support channel, read the topic for related channels |
| 13:55.07 | tzafrir_laptop | ibreakthings, permission issues there? or in /etc/asterisk ? |
| 13:57.00 | ibreakthings | i haven't played around with permissions |
| 13:59.34 | ibreakthings | and a few point to asterisk not having write permissions to static-http and thats it |
| 14:02.21 | hershel | on my ZAP-enabled box I try zap restart and it says unable to open channel. unable to register channel. reload channels failed. I did modprobe zaptel (Debian box) and restarted * and same result. and it worked 5 minutes ago. |
| 14:03.23 | [TK]D-Fender | hershel: ztcfg -vvvv |
| 14:03.27 | [TK]D-Fender | hershel: then restart * |
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| 14:05.00 | hershel | [TK]D-Fender: that did it. I see "ztcfg - reads and loads zaptel.conf " do you know why this is necessary? meaning how I can avoid having to do it every 5 minutes? :) |
| 14:05.28 | [TK]D-Fender | hershel: shouldn't be every 5 min |
| 14:06.27 | hershel | i have something wrong however. i did zap restart from * console after u did ztcfg and no error response. then I called the box on a phone and got busy signal and now zap restart is again unable to open channel |
| 14:07.00 | ibreakthings | sorry [TK]D-Fender i tried looking for asterisk-gui support.. guess i forgot the # in fron not 3, 4 times.. guess 8hrs sleep in three days don't works so well... sorry to all |
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| 14:07.08 | hershel | reload channels from zap config failed |
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| 14:14.14 | hershel | and now i do " ztcfg -vvvv" then restart * and then zap restart in * cons. and i get 4 errors. unalbe to specify channel 1, unable to open channel 1, unable to register channel 1 and reload channels from zap config failed |
| 14:15.54 | hershel | ztcfg reports "1 channels to configure. " whcih I think is correct. and the light is yellow on the back of the machine by that plug. |
| 14:16.11 | hershel | but it's not working. machine is debian stable. |
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| 14:19.41 | Corydon76-dig | hershel: if the light is yellow, that means that the machine on the other end of that link thinks there's something wrong with the link. Check your cable. |
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| 14:21.50 | hershel | I unplugged the cable, plugged it into a regular phone and called it. phone rang. Light remained yellow even with no cable in. put it back in and its still yellow. |
| 14:22.16 | hershel | now zap restart gives no message. then I call the * box and it rings and then goes busy. then i do zap restart again and now i get 4 errors, as above. |
| 14:22.45 | hershel | perhaps the incoming phone signal is not standard? it's not a PSTN it's a VOIP line coming from a Sipura SPA 2000 |
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| 14:23.56 | Corydon76-dig | Are you sure the light is yellow and not green? |
| 14:24.06 | dlynes | Did LookupBlacklist disappear with 1.6.1.1? I don't seem to see it in /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
| 14:24.35 | Corydon76-dig | dlynes: it's been gone for awhile |
| 14:24.51 | hershel | R U calling me colorblind? OK, I don't deny it. I am not sure if it's green or yellow. it looks yellow to me but perhaps that's it's green state. |
| 14:25.09 | Corydon76-dig | dlynes: it's easily implemented using the astdb, which is why it was removed |
| 14:26.12 | dlynes | Corydon76-dig: ah, ok...thanks |
| 14:29.04 | hershel | should i try to reconfigure my zap config? It was done automatically to begin with. and it worked last week. not sure why not this week. nothing should have changed. |
| 14:31.06 | tzafrir_laptop | hershel, shat's the output of: cat /proc/zaptel/* |
| 14:31.32 | KavanS | ok, with this polycom auto-answer thing...does anyone else use this for paging? |
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| 14:32.12 | hershel | i must type b/c it's a dif. machine. but it says: span 1: wctdm/0 Wildcard tdm410p board 1 master irq msses: 8 1 wdtdm/0/0 FXSKS |
| 14:32.34 | hershel | and then the other lines don't have any letters after the 1,2,3. whcih is right--i have only one module |
| 14:33.14 | hershel | 1 WCTDM/0/0 FXSKS to be precise |
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| 14:35.51 | tzafrir_laptop | hershel, could you please pastebin the exact output ? |
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| 14:36.56 | vi390 | is there anything like "Notify" available in the PBX where I can send notification messages over the network ? |
| 14:37.19 | hershel | tzafrir_laptop http://pastebin.com/d5ec22a26 |
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| 14:39.54 | pugachevcobra | Hi all... Little help, i have enabled video in asterisk, and is working between calls, but no video is recorded to the extension voicemail, and I read voicemail can handle it. What could it be |
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| 14:46.52 | hershel | tzafrir_laptop any suggestions? |
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| 15:02.07 | tzafrir_laptop | hershel, what do you have in /etc/zaptel.conf ? |
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| 15:18.11 | voipmonk | :) |
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| 15:27.36 | Talkradio | anyone know how to fix polycom phones that say 'error,application is not present' |
| 15:29.23 | box2 | i would check the manual |
| 15:30.34 | Talkradio | i did and it says to reset to factory with 1357 and then it downloads a new config but i have 3 that won't take the config |
| 15:31.23 | Talkradio | just wondering if there was a way to put a factory flash on it or format it. says i need the phone up and working to use the menu button to get to the format area inside the phone |
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| 15:44.20 | oberon | hi |
| 15:44.31 | oberon | when I use AMI |
| 15:45.06 | oberon | I'm trying to originate a call and connect it to another call |
| 15:45.15 | oberon | .. so I use the Originate command |
| 15:46.06 | oberon | question is .. how can I tell that a new channel created was created due to THAT Originate call |
| 15:46.07 | oberon | ? |
| 15:46.38 | oberon | the ActionID is only returned with the Response |
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| 15:53.37 | Talkradio | nevermind got new files from polycom and phone took new flash :) |
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| 16:10.40 | nohup_ | good morning all :) |
| 16:11.47 | nohup_ | i have a problem getting a sip client (twinkle) to make calls through an ip tunnel (or atleast, i think that's the problem.. i haven't tried anything locally in ages, and i'm in another continent... so it'd be a little hard to try) |
| 16:12.10 | nohup_ | anyways, could anyone explain what this means: |
| 16:12.11 | nohup_ | Reliably Transmitting (no NAT) to 10.8.0.6:5058: |
| 16:12.12 | nohup_ | SIP/2.0 407 Proxy Authentication Required |
| 16:12.18 | nohup_ | is that an error? :) |
| 16:13.52 | tzafrir_laptop | wrong password? |
| 16:14.13 | nohup_ | no, it does register |
| 16:20.24 | giovani | is there a (hopefully simple) way to capture digits during a MusicOnHold session? |
| 16:20.35 | giovani | i.e. to allow the caller to toggle music |
| 16:23.39 | giovani | ah, looks like the digit= setting does precisely what I want, awesome |
| 16:24.19 | nohup_ | oh.. brb.. have to go ,but i'll be back to bug you all :) |
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| 16:47.20 | xa0z | Does anyone know where "24" got the Ringtone sound they use on their phones? Did it originate from a video game, or other phone manufactures? |
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| 17:23.13 | wonderworld | hi, i want to use a b410p Quad span ISDN interface without mISDN, as newer dahdi versions should support it natively -> http://www.venturevoip.com/news.php?rssid=2079 now i am wondering where to setup the MSN's for the ISDN lines? |
| 17:29.19 | jmls | is there a document about moving from zap to dahdi ? I want to migrate a 1.4 system to 1.6.2 |
| 17:29.46 | drmessano | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:40.12 | hershel | tzafrir_laptop sorry I had to go. Here it is:, my config files: http://pastebin.com/d13714e1b |
| 17:41.29 | tzafrir_laptop | chan_zap.c:7414 mkintf: Unable to open channel 1: Device or resource busy |
| 17:42.04 | tzafrir_laptop | something already has channel 1 open |
| 17:42.22 | tzafrir_laptop | As I don't see the channel 'In use', I suspect that this is asterisk |
| 17:42.46 | tzafrir_laptop | can you try restarting it? 'zap restart' was slightly buggy even for analogs before 1.4.22 |
| 17:43.23 | hershel | don't follow you. can i try restarting it? restarting what? zap restart DOES seem buggy for me. |
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| 17:45.37 | hershel | i have * 1.4.21.2-dfsg BTW binary build from debian repos |
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| 17:49.18 | wonderworld | hi, i want to use a b410p Quad span ISDN interface without mISDN, as newer dahdi versions should support it natively -> http://www.venturevoip.com/news.php?rssid=2079 now i am wondering where to setup the MSN's for the ISDN lines? |
| 17:53.58 | tzafrir_laptop | hershel, try: 'restart now' |
| 17:54.30 | tzafrir_laptop | wonderworld, in the dialplan |
| 17:55.05 | tzafrir_laptop | an incoming call will come to the dialed number, which is the MSN in your case |
| 17:55.50 | tzafrir_laptop | jmls, err... the ones in the source trees of dahdi-tools and asterisk ? |
| 17:57.29 | hershel | tzafrir_laptop i did that, it disconnected my console. i got back in console and called the box. it shows event 18,2,18,2 and then stopped--it never picked up. then i called back twice and now the console shows nothing and the phone goes dead. rings once i think but then it's either busy or dead (cell phone I am calling from so I'm not sure) |
| 17:58.07 | tzafrir_laptop | what do you now see in /proc/zaptel/* ? |
| 17:58.51 | hershel | channel 1 in use |
| 17:59.23 | wonderworld | tzafrir_laptop: thanks. so i'll just have to match the msn's in the dialplan....sounds simple :) |
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| 17:59.58 | wonderworld | i was wondering because you had to define the MSN's in mISDn. otherwise the call wouldn't go thru |
| 18:00.16 | tzafrir_laptop | hershel, good. So Asterisk has it open. In the asterisk CLI, what is the output of: 'zap show channels' ? |
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| 18:01.10 | hershel | 1 from-pstn default is last line |
| 18:01.25 | hershel | before that pseudo default default |
| 18:03.08 | wonderworld | another (stupid) question....when attaching the b410p to the PSTN, the ports should be configured to TE-Mode right? i just would set them to NT if i wanted to attach an ISDN-phone to them? |
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| 18:05.14 | FlaPer87 | hi guys, I need some help with .call files, This is my .call file http://pastebin.com/d25e74629 |
| 18:05.24 | FlaPer87 | I just hear a busy tone when I answer the call |
| 18:05.35 | FlaPer87 | I'll pastebin my callfile context |
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| 18:06.00 | FlaPer87 | http://pastebin.com/d213e402f |
| 18:06.04 | fofware | hello guys |
| 18:06.29 | fofware | I did installed and configure Asterisk, my first time |
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| 18:07.28 | fofware | everything look fine but I did try to connect to asterisk server with some softphones but I can |
| 18:07.34 | FlaPer87 | any idea? |
| 18:07.55 | fofware | Is there some way to test or see if I did a good configurations |
| 18:08.28 | fofware | and if users are well configured |
| 18:09.03 | wonderworld | FlaPer87: check the CLI with high verbosity to see whats actually happening |
| 18:09.50 | wonderworld | be sure to move the call file into the sppol directory instead of copying it as well |
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| 18:12.05 | fofware | what is CLI? if it a program How execute it? |
| 18:12.47 | FlaPer87 | wonderworld I changed the Playback for WaitExten, this is the cli output http://pastebin.com/d4808627 |
| 18:13.01 | FlaPer87 | fofware asterisk -rvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv |
| 18:13.07 | fofware | i see in man asterisk SEE ALSO *CLI |
| 18:13.17 | FlaPer87 | fofware It will connect to your asterisk process |
| 18:13.24 | fofware | ok thanks <FlaPer87> |
| 18:13.29 | FlaPer87 | np |
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| 18:17.48 | wonderworld | FlaPer87: i am not sure if Wait Exten does generate a hearable output...? |
| 18:18.32 | wonderworld | better test it with a soundfile as you did before |
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| 18:21.16 | manxpower | ~answers |
| 18:21.17 | infobot | methinks answers is Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki: http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt |
| 18:21.49 | wonderworld | too many answers |
| 18:25.13 | manxpower | If fofware had read the Asterisk Book he'd know what the CLI is. |
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| 18:25.49 | FlaPer87 | wonderworld http://pastebin.com/m41e1f1da |
| 18:26.21 | FlaPer87 | wonderworld it executes the things inside the context |
| 18:26.36 | FlaPer87 | but I can't here anything in the call generated by the .call file |
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| 18:27.43 | fofware | yeah <manxpower> I did found a device to use gsm,3G/UMTS and cdma phone lines |
| 18:28.06 | manxpower | fofware: I wish you the best of luck. |
| 18:28.16 | fofware | with asterisk |
| 18:28.37 | manxpower | no with "device to use gsm,3G/UMTS and cdma phone lines" |
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| 18:29.52 | fofware | thanks manxpower |
| 18:30.21 | hershel | tzafrir_laptop any other ideas for me? |
| 18:31.06 | tzafrir_laptop | hershel, an incoming call should start at extension s of context from-pstn |
| 18:31.14 | tzafrir_laptop | dialplan show s@from-pstn |
| 18:32.38 | hershel | hmm you lost me a bit. i setup my config file to send incoming calls to AGI. i don't recall precisely what i did but i think that is in asterisk.conf, right? anyhow that's what i want--just AGI |
| 18:33.53 | _trine | manxpower: please don't view people who don't know too much about asterisk as if they are computer illiterate otherwise you will drift into self disillusionment |
| 18:34.25 | _trine | fofware: and myself are quite literate in other areas |
| 18:34.31 | manxpower | _trine: I only view people like when they don't read the available documentation. |
| 18:35.44 | _trine | manxpower: if we read it all you would be surplus to requirements |
| 18:36.04 | manxpower | fofware is trying to get the details of installing a new alternator into a car when he doesn't even know where or what an alternator is. He's trying to link a cell phone into Asterisk when he doesn't even know how he is going to interface the device into Asterisk. |
| 18:36.08 | _trine | we help an enormous amount of people in other areas |
| 18:36.21 | FlaPer87 | for any reason if I change the extension in my .call file to something like SIP/100 the call fails |
| 18:36.22 | FlaPer87 | =S |
| 18:36.33 | manxpower | And he's trying to get us to tutor him in Asterisk. All most of us ask is to at least TRY to read and understand the documenttion. |
| 18:36.48 | _trine | and all we are asking is for a little cooperation from people such as you who know more than us about another subject |
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| 18:39.04 | manxpower | I am happy to help, but the person asking for help must make an effort as well. |
| 18:39.16 | _trine | manxpower: we are |
| 18:39.26 | FlaPer87 | just found out that it works, the problem is when I try to use the .call file to call an internal extension |
| 18:39.32 | Qwell | _trine: well, no. in many cases they simply don't. |
| 18:39.39 | fofware | <manxpower>I don't read at all the documentations, but I did read enought and I did see many configurations files of some peoples and I did configure the best I can do in this moment |
| 18:39.49 | _trine | Qwell: in our case we are |
| 18:39.49 | FlaPer87 | If I use SIP/provider/EXTERNAL_NUMBER it works |
| 18:39.55 | Qwell | ie; somebody with no experience in any type of system administration, and 0 linux knowledge |
| 18:40.00 | FlaPer87 | if I use SIP/INTERNAL_NUMBER it fails |
| 18:40.06 | Qwell | a complex PBX is probably the last thing they should be messing with |
| 18:40.09 | fofware | but don't worry be happy |
| 18:40.35 | _trine | Qwell: we are very linux literate |
| 18:40.48 | Qwell | _trine: who is "we" exactly? |
| 18:40.48 | fofware | I will done with taht only it take more time |
| 18:40.52 | _trine | you are jumping to conclusions |
| 18:41.07 | _trine | Qwell: fofware and me |
| 18:41.22 | Qwell | and </conversation> |
| 18:41.44 | _trine | we are quite active on channels concerning the development of router firmware |
| 18:42.05 | Qwell | "what is a CLI"? seriously? come on |
| 18:42.14 | hershel | I will admit to being illiterate. Especially to anyone who can help me get this box to answer the phone again. :) |
| 18:42.23 | _trine | this is a new area for us and we just wanted a little help of course if you don't want to help then that's ok too |
| 18:42.27 | hershel | tzafrir_laptop did you see my response above? |
| 18:42.28 | Qwell | ~book |
| 18:42.29 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 18:42.34 | Qwell | _trine: You should both read that. |
| 18:42.49 | Qwell | If you don't understand simple concepts, you can't ask proper questions. |
| 18:42.59 | _trine | Qwell: thanks you have been a great help |
| 18:43.43 | tzafrir_laptop | hershel, I want to be sure that you properly set up your dialplan. THis is why I asked you for the output of that command |
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| 18:44.15 | hershel | i ran dialplan show s@from-pstn and it says There is no existence of 'from-pstn' context |
| 18:44.27 | hershel | i thought it was the wrong command that I entered. |
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| 18:45.34 | Qwell | _trine: all I'm trying to do is help. If you want to be sarcastic or question our practices, that's great. |
| 18:45.59 | _trine | yeah ok |
| 18:46.17 | drmessano | Qwell: Stop doggin the newbies because they want to use a 12 yr old routers FXO ports, ass |
| 18:47.21 | manxpower | The Asterisk Book *IS* hard to understand and confusing, but reading at least the basics in that book will save any new person hours and hours of frustration. The more you learn about Asterisk the more you will understand the book. |
| 18:48.19 | drmessano | I'm curious what channels they're active on.. neither one of them is on anything other than #asterisk and #asterisknow |
| 18:48.23 | drmessano | Hmmmmm |
| 18:48.30 | Qwell | drmessano: "other areas" |
| 18:48.38 | drmessano | [14:42] <_trine> we are quite active on channels concerning the development of router firmware |
| 18:48.46 | drmessano | ^^^ |
| 18:49.32 | drmessano | run WinRAR on the AsteriskNOW ISO and tries to cram on a WRT54G |
| 18:49.42 | drmessano | Not that channel |
| 18:50.03 | Qwell | _trine: my point was simple. If you can't ask a proper question, you can't get proper help. if you want help, you need to understand some very basic things. |
| 18:50.11 | _trine | drmessano: thanks I appreciate that fofware and myself use openwrt and participate in that community hopefully to the advantage of others |
| 18:50.38 | _trine | Qwell: I don't want to fall out with any one |
| 18:50.38 | drmessano | You appreciate what? |
| 18:50.47 | manxpower | Qwell: Such as Linux, Networking, NAT, Routing, SIP, RTP, Telecommunications, AND Asterisk |
| 18:50.48 | Qwell | _trine: Then read before asking questions. |
| 18:50.54 | KavanS | drmessano, heh seriously? |
| 18:51.27 | drmessano | KavanS: What? |
| 18:51.39 | KavanS | drmessano, cramming asterisk now iso on a wrt |
| 18:51.54 | drmessano | Are you seriously asking me if I was serious? |
| 18:52.07 | KavanS | seriously. |
| 18:53.02 | drmessano | I'm embaressed for you |
| 18:53.12 | KavanS | how big is asterisk now? |
| 18:53.18 | KavanS | not full iso? |
| 18:54.27 | drmessano | KavanS: Not sure which point I should make first.. You dont load an ISO onto a WRT54G, you wouldnt load CENTOS onto a WRT54G, as a 600MB ISO would even fit in 16MB.. Ummm |
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| 18:54.45 | drmessano | Really dude |
| 18:54.55 | KavanS | heh I don't know how much memory it has off the top off my head |
| 18:54.57 | KavanS | and how big the iso is |
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| 18:55.08 | KavanS | might be possible to throw a debian netinst on it |
| 18:55.12 | drmessano | or that a WRT54G wouldnt run x86 code? |
| 18:55.22 | drmessano | O.o |
| 18:55.41 | KavanS | maybe you were dumping an iso to a wrt for a temp space between 2 pc's, one with a cd burner, one without? not sure why |
| 18:55.55 | KavanS | which is why I was asking "seriously?" |
| 18:56.09 | hershel | join /debian |
| 18:56.13 | drmessano | Just quit while you're ahead |
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| 18:56.20 | drmessano | or horribly behind |
| 18:56.31 | KavanS | drmessano, right...keep thinking that ;) |
| 18:57.55 | drmessano | KavanS: Sadly, you will probably never know how embarassed you should be at the last 5 mins of dialog |
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| 18:58.55 | KavanS | drmessano, if you assume that I thought you could load asterisknow on a wrt, you are the one mistaken... |
| 18:59.32 | KavanS | dumping an iso to a temp device is a practice I've done before when I didn't have a usb stick/external device |
| 19:00.04 | KavanS | so whatever... |
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| 19:00.47 | drmessano | The fact you latched onto memory and ISO size vs the blatantly obvious bits about the architectural differences make it clear where your thought processes were.. I encourage you to review the log. |
| 19:00.52 | drmessano | :( |
| 19:01.13 | drmessano | He hung up on me |
| 19:01.26 | _trine | are you surprised |
| 19:02.44 | drmessano | Yes |
| 19:03.41 | _trine | drmessano: I have to give my attention elseware someone has asked for my help I will be back later |
| 19:03.55 | drmessano | Why are you telling me this? |
| 19:04.17 | _trine | so you don't think I have ignored you |
| 19:04.37 | drmessano | O.o |
| 19:04.45 | drmessano | Who are you? |
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| 19:10.14 | Joel | Qwell start tomorrow :) |
| 19:10.19 | Qwell | cool |
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| 19:10.54 | tzafrir_laptop | is disappointed of others in ther channel who could not help hershel with the simple dialplan aspect of his issue |
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| 19:11.42 | Joel | Qwell then we'll be bff forever <3 <3 ;) |
| 19:11.46 | jkroon | hmm, i don't see any functions that allows me to ask the voicemail system whether a certain voice mailbox exists? |
| 19:12.07 | Qwell | jkroon: there should be a function |
| 19:12.44 | Qwell | no, application. MailboxExists |
| 19:12.46 | Joel | jkroon http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+-+documentation+of+application+commands |
| 19:12.54 | [TK]D-Fender | FUCK THE WIKI |
| 19:13.01 | [TK]D-Fender | "core show applicaitons' |
| 19:13.05 | [TK]D-Fender | "core show applications' |
| 19:13.06 | jkroon | Qwell, i was just wondering whether I can abuse VMCOUNT. thanks. |
| 19:13.08 | manxpower | "core show applications" and "core show FUNCTIONS" should have all those docs |
| 19:13.10 | [TK]D-Fender | "core show functions" |
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| 19:15.10 | jkroon | [TK]D-Fender, couldn't have put it better myself. Thanks Qwell - MailboxExists will work. |
| 19:15.34 | manxpower | jkroon: "core show applications like mail" should work too |
| 19:22.47 | jblack | Has anyone worked with astxx ? |
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| 19:29.46 | fatnasty1 | I have in logger.conf notice,warning,error,verbose set up for the /var/log/asterisk/messages file... the file is getting big fast, is this level of logging recommended on a production system? what level of logging are you using on your production system? |
| 19:29.58 | Qwell | fatnasty1: no |
| 19:30.16 | fatnasty1 | Qwell: take out the verbose? |
| 19:30.19 | Qwell | yes |
| 19:31.28 | fatnasty1 | Qwell: still ok to have verbose to console? |
| 19:31.41 | Qwell | sure |
| 19:32.05 | fatnasty1 | Qwell: just went live last night, for first time. |
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| 19:35.19 | jkroon | weird q: two asterisk servers A and B, they can have either an IAX/2 or SIP trunk between them, then a phone on each side, 100 to A and 200 to B. Is it possible for A and B to communicate in such a way as to allow 100 and 200 to get presense notifications? |
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| 19:39.19 | manxpower | ~siptrunk |
| 19:39.20 | infobot | rumour has it, siptrunk is To set a SIP peer/friend/user as a trunk add either trunk=yes or wombat=yes (they both do the same thing) in the peer/friend/user definition in sip.conf |
| 19:41.59 | grahamsaa | wombat, eh? |
| 19:42.10 | cviniciusm | Hello, I just set up an asterisk server, but I haven't success to do calls, because appears the error: Call from '1001' to extension '1002' rejected because extension not found. |
| 19:42.37 | cviniciusm | Any tips, please? |
| 19:42.56 | russellb | add the extension :-) |
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| 19:43.41 | cviniciusm | my extensions.conf is: |
| 19:43.42 | FlaPer87 | <3 asterisk |
| 19:43.45 | cviniciusm | [globals] [general] autofallthrough=yes [phones] exten => s,1,Verbose(1|Unrouted call handler) exten => s,n,Answer() exten => s,n,Wait(1) exten => s,n,Playback(tt-weasels) exten => s,n,Hangup() |
| 19:44.00 | manxpower | cviniciusm: the "s" extension does not mean "wildcard" |
| 19:44.26 | manxpower | it means "no extension provided" since you are dialing 1002 there is an extension provided so "s" will not match |
| 19:44.28 | manxpower | !pastebin |
| 19:44.32 | manxpower | ~pastebin |
| 19:44.33 | infobot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 19:45.57 | cviniciusm | I'm newbie. How to do a call from a sip user 1001 to 1002, please? |
| 19:46.05 | manxpower | exten => 1002,1,Whatever |
| 19:46.13 | wonderworld | manxpower: how would you do a dial() that would actually go into "s" ? |
| 19:46.38 | manxpower | wonderworld: generally you would never "dial" s. s is for incoming calls, not outgoing calls. |
| 19:47.06 | wonderworld | ok, so if an incoming call that matches no specific extension would come in, it would go into "s", right? |
| 19:47.10 | manxpower | You could work around this by Dial(Local/s@thecontext), but most of the time it's not needed. |
| 19:47.59 | manxpower | wonderworld: no. "s" means "there was no dialed extension provided". If a call comes in with a destination that does not match anything "s" will not be called because the incoming call had a destination extension (even if it doesn't exist) |
| 19:48.37 | manxpower | the only times a call will come in with no destination extension is if it arrived on an FXO port. "s" is used in macros and with immediate=yes, but that's special case. |
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| 19:48.58 | wonderworld | thanks for the enlightment |
| 19:49.07 | manxpower | exten => _X.,1,whatever would match any 2-or-more digit extensions |
| 19:49.19 | wonderworld | never really understood what it was good for |
| 19:49.42 | manxpower | wonderworld: I'd tell you to read the docs, but the "s" is poorly explained and most people don't understand it even if they do read the docs. 8-| |
| 19:49.50 | giovani | manxpower: s is also used when you want to separate out menus, for example, and want the submenu to start prompting as soon as the call is moved there, right? |
| 19:50.04 | cviniciusm | So, I have to do: exten => _X,1,Answer() ? |
| 19:50.16 | manxpower | giovani: it can be, but doesn't have to be. |
| 19:50.23 | wonderworld | i actually read the book and the docs but as i never really needed "s", i just forgot and didn't understand it well back then |
| 19:50.30 | giovani | cviniciusm: don't forget the period after _X |
| 19:51.00 | giovani | otherwise, that will only match a single-digit extension |
| 19:51.05 | manxpower | X means "match any digit exactly once" "." means match one or more digits |
| 19:51.42 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:49]<giovani>manxpower: s is also used when you want to separate out menus, for example, and want the submenu to start prompting as soon as the call is moved there, right? <- no |
| 19:52.25 | giovani | [TK]D-Fender: I've seen it used that way in a number of examples of complex IVRs -- care to explain how it's not used that way? |
| 19:52.45 | [TK]D-Fender | giovani: If a call lands on "s" then "s" will execute. When you GOTO, it goes precisely where you tell it to. "s" is not a fallback/catchall/miracle |
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| 19:53.10 | [TK]D-Fender | giovani: If you GOTO "s,1" then yes you will indeed go there |
| 19:53.11 | manxpower | "s" is the worst named extension in the universe. |
| 19:54.59 | manxpower | (and yes, I'm including the home world of the Slug People of Balthazar in that statement) |
| 19:55.55 | Naikrovek | i just imagine it as the "start" extension, which is where you go if you don't have a destination yet |
| 19:56.02 | cviniciusm | Now the call is stabilished and then imediatelly hung, the 1002 have no chance to respond. |
| 19:56.07 | Naikrovek | but my mind is twisted and not like anyone elses |
| 19:56.07 | [TK]D-Fender | Naikrovek: Which you almost always do |
| 19:56.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Naikrovek: 11 steps to go! |
| 19:56.23 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 19:56.31 | manxpower | Naikrovek: people think of it as the "start" of all calls. |
| 19:56.41 | manxpower | I think "s" should be renamed "none" |
| 19:56.52 | Naikrovek | submit a patch |
| 19:57.01 | manxpower | Naikrovek: it would never be accepted |
| 19:57.18 | Naikrovek | okay then, don't |
| 19:57.25 | Naikrovek | but complaining about it won't make it change |
| 19:57.45 | manxpower | Naikrovek: nothing will make it change, "s" is too ingrained in Asterisk culture. |
| 19:57.47 | Naikrovek | i'm not disagreeing |
| 19:58.00 | manxpower | I might submit a patch so either "s" or "none" could be used. |
| 19:58.08 | Naikrovek | that's what i meant |
| 19:58.18 | Naikrovek | you can't replace it but you can come up with an alternate name |
| 19:58.36 | Naikrovek | maybe one day 's' will get deprecated in favor of none |
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| 20:00.48 | manxpower | Naikrovek: Another patch would bring the total number of lines of code I have in Asterisk to 6. 8-) |
| 20:01.14 | Naikrovek | 6 lol |
| 20:01.45 | manxpower | INVAL_EXTEN is also my code |
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| 20:09.38 | manxpower | <-- not a programmer |
| 20:15.42 | russellb | 6 still puts you at more lines than 99% of those that use it :-) |
| 20:16.45 | jkroon | i had another thought this afternoon, some kind of catch all that's not _. would be nice, something that'll catch everything except special names. |
| 20:16.52 | jkroon | not sure how feasible that is though. |
| 20:16.58 | russellb | _X. is what most people use for that |
| 20:17.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jkthere is no "except" |
| 20:17.25 | jkroon | russellb, so do I ... but that doesn't get _*X. |
| 20:17.42 | jkroon | [TK]D-Fender, i know, said it would be nice, not required. |
| 20:18.03 | [TK]D-Fender | jkroon: exten => _!,1, NoOp(EVERYTHING) |
| 20:18.11 | jkroon | and today a client was very angry at me because he couldn't dial conference@movial.com via my system, |
| 20:18.21 | [TK]D-Fender | jkWould help if you actually read the page on pattern matching |
| 20:18.35 | jkroon | has one of those "now why didn't I think of that" moment |
| 20:18.37 | [TK]D-Fender | jkroon: Would help if you actually read the page on pattern matching |
| 20:19.13 | jkroon | i did, clearly not well enough though. but _! would still get s and i and fax, and t as well wouldn't it? |
| 20:19.32 | jkroon | not that i'm particularly worried about those in the context i'm thinking of using this. |
| 20:19.42 | [TK]D-Fender | [16:17]<[TK]D-Fender>jkthere is no "except" |
| 20:19.52 | [TK]D-Fender | jkYou clearly should never stay in an exten named as such |
| 20:20.34 | jkroon | one of these days some shit is going to want to dial fax@some.domain ... |
| 20:20.38 | jkroon | or s@some.domain |
| 20:20.43 | jkroon | anyway, i'm off. |
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| 20:41.54 | cviniciusm | Anybody could show me the simplest extensions.conf to do calls between two accounts, please? |
| 20:42.18 | grandpapadot | cviniciusm: two accounts? like two sip.conf peers? |
| 20:42.28 | [TK]D-Fender | cviniciusm: exten => 100,1,Dial(SIP/100,20) |
| 20:42.35 | grandpapadot | cviniciusm: or two difference * servers? |
| 20:42.45 | [TK]D-Fender | same |
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| 20:45.38 | cviniciusm | Yes, two sip peers on the same server. |
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| 20:52.31 | PanicMan | can anyone help me regarding SS7 related odd to even CIC selection >> |
| 20:53.38 | mumtazah | please help me. I don't know how to solve this problem http://pastebin.com/d76093e6d |
| 20:54.42 | grahamsaa | anyone know where I can find a list of companies using asterisk? |
| 20:54.56 | grahamsaa | working on a presentation for management right now to try to convince them to switch |
| 20:55.33 | grahamsaa | they tend to care more about what other reputable organizations are doing than the featureset and the fact that it's open source. . . damn mba's |
| 20:56.54 | PanicMan | everyone is sleeping :D |
| 20:57.29 | manxpower | grahamsaa: contact Digium sales |
| 20:57.33 | cviniciusm | My timezone is -3h GMT. |
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| 20:58.00 | grahamsaa | thanks manxpower |
| 20:58.25 | drmessano | grahamsaa: What Size company? |
| 20:58.39 | grahamsaa | about 55 employees, 4 regional offices |
| 20:59.03 | drmessano | Got 90 employees at a law firm running Asterisk 1.2.1 |
| 20:59.14 | drmessano | I kid you not |
| 20:59.23 | grahamsaa | I'm assuming they're happy |
| 20:59.25 | manxpower | grahamsaa: have you checked the digium web site? |
| 20:59.27 | drmessano | Yes.. |
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| 20:59.33 | cviniciusm | Success stories & working samples: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+hardware+recommendations |
| 20:59.35 | grahamsaa | I have checked the website |
| 20:59.35 | manxpower | they're users -- they are never happy. |
| 20:59.39 | grahamsaa | but more to look at their hardware |
| 20:59.44 | grahamsaa | ha, good point |
| 20:59.52 | drmessano | They have no complaints about it |
| 21:00.18 | grahamsaa | ooh thanks for the tip on the website |
| 21:00.24 | grahamsaa | the case studies section looks extensive |
| 21:01.23 | drmessano | If you want a testimonial how 1.6 is FAR better than 1.4, I can get you one (it's even NOT ME) |
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| 21:03.16 | grahamsaa | that would be great :) |
| 21:03.47 | grahamsaa | we're in the middle of some significant growth (adding new offices) and our current phone system (talkswitch) really isn't equipped to expand |
| 21:04.11 | grahamsaa | and it's not that great -- talkswitch worked reasonably well 3 years ago (when we had 15 employees instead of 50) |
| 21:06.18 | voipmonk | nice |
| 21:06.25 | voipmonk | how many new offices, grahamsaa ? |
| 21:06.43 | grahamsaa | 2 more by 2011 |
| 21:06.46 | drmessano | http://www.google.com/profiles/djbelieny <--- This guy has been doing some cool high volume stuff with 1.6 + SQL |
| 21:06.48 | grahamsaa | (one should be operational by January) |
| 21:06.54 | voipmonk | how many in existence today? |
| 21:07.01 | grahamsaa | 3 |
| 21:07.11 | grahamsaa | (I said 4 before because I'm counting the one that should be up in Jan) |
| 21:07.15 | voipmonk | are you glad you switched to asterisk? :) |
| 21:07.26 | grahamsaa | well, we haven't switched yet |
| 21:07.33 | grahamsaa | I have to present to management tomorrow to get the goahead |
| 21:07.48 | drmessano | If youre not afraid, i can give your bosses some tough love on Asterisk and the effin crap they're using now |
| 21:08.15 | drmessano | I MAY be able to do it without getting you fired.. no promises |
| 21:08.19 | grahamsaa | well, I'm looking for case studies |
| 21:08.23 | grahamsaa | Greg, I'm Graham |
| 21:08.27 | grahamsaa | good to meet you |
| 21:08.27 | drmessano | "Who the hell is this guy? SECURITY, escort graham out of the building" |
| 21:08.42 | grahamsaa | cool |
| 21:08.57 | grahamsaa | drmessano I don't think much tough love will be necessary for now |
| 21:09.04 | grahamsaa | but we'll see after the meeting tomorrow |
| 21:09.21 | drmessano | :( |
| 21:09.36 | drmessano | But I want to.. I can fire up YouTube and give them all strokes |
| 21:09.44 | grahamsaa | I manage all of the IT services for the company and people are fairly happy with my work, but most of mgmt doesn't really understand technology |
| 21:09.56 | drmessano | Ok, I wont use the black background and wont burn any Cisco phones in this one |
| 21:09.57 | grahamsaa | well, if you're around tomorrow I might take you up on that |
| 21:10.03 | grahamsaa | haha |
| 21:10.17 | grahamsaa | even if they say no tomorrow I'm going to keep fighting |
| 21:10.32 | grahamsaa | they'll cave eventually |
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| 21:10.52 | grahamsaa | it took me a good 18 months to get them to switch all server infrastructure to linux |
| 21:11.01 | grahamsaa | but now they're happy and have saved a good chunk of money |
| 21:11.09 | voipmonk | are they saving money and performing more? |
| 21:11.16 | grahamsaa | they haven't looked back; i suspect the transition to asterisk will be the same |
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| 21:11.24 | drmessano | Linux needs better identity management |
| 21:11.39 | grahamsaa | yeah, definitely -- we have much better uptime, we're not paying for stupid windows server licenses, cpu utilization is much lower |
| 21:11.43 | drmessano | Beyond that, it could replace a lot of infrastructure |
| 21:12.00 | grahamsaa | windows server is a joke (or an oxymoron, I'm not sure which) |
| 21:13.07 | drmessano | I would like to see a full on replacement for Active Directory along with support not only in the existing Windows workstations, but *nix as well |
| 21:13.10 | grahamsaa | thanks greg |
| 21:13.47 | grahamsaa | Samba4 supposedly offers AD support for *nix |
| 21:13.53 | grahamsaa | but I haven't tried it |
| 21:14.04 | voipmonk | stick it on a dev box or a dev virtual environment |
| 21:14.05 | drmessano | Samba4-earl-alpha-2012 |
| 21:14.09 | drmessano | Samba4-early-alpha-2012 |
| 21:14.26 | drmessano | or am I thinking about 5 |
| 21:14.33 | grahamsaa | i think 5 |
| 21:14.37 | grahamsaa | samba4 is still in alpha |
| 21:15.06 | grahamsaa | but it should be finished before 2012 (but then, ya never know) |
| 21:15.13 | drmessano | If 4 is still alpha, its 4 then |
| 21:16.14 | drmessano | I think you need a real windows environment to manage windows machines.. Until you can replicate that, something like an SBS server has a place |
| 21:16.32 | drmessano | Even if you ditch the other apps |
| 21:16.41 | grahamsaa | true |
| 21:16.49 | grahamsaa | we use ubuntu for most of our workstations |
| 21:17.04 | grahamsaa | there are only a couple apps that require windows so we run them in vm's |
| 21:17.14 | grahamsaa | there was a lot of resistance at first but now people seem pretty happy |
| 21:17.26 | drmessano | What about your mobile devices?? |
| 21:17.52 | grahamsaa | we're not too heavily dependent on mobile devices; department managers have blackberries (unfortunately no BES for linux yet, or probably ever) |
| 21:18.07 | grahamsaa | most employees just have standard cell phones though |
| 21:18.12 | drmessano | Ah |
| 21:18.17 | drmessano | we handle a lot of mobile devices |
| 21:18.18 | Nugget | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32618406 <-- terrorist reading material |
| 21:18.58 | drmessano | ZOMG |
| 21:19.05 | wonderworld | i moved about 20 workstations from win xp to ubuntu one year ago. they used to have about 13 service requests a week. now they have about 2 per month. |
| 21:19.07 | drmessano | THAY R USIN TEH UNIX |
| 21:19.15 | Nugget | SHUT DOWN THE INTERNET |
| 21:19.38 | grahamsaa | ha :) |
| 21:19.44 | drmessano | EMACS = Pipe Bomb |
| 21:20.20 | grahamsaa | if emacs is a pipe bomb, nano is a? |
| 21:20.24 | drmessano | "The accused was caught using grep. Do you have any idea what grep is used for?" |
| 21:20.32 | drmessano | "No" |
| 21:20.38 | drmessano | "Nor do we, but it sounds bad" |
| 21:20.46 | Nugget | haha |
| 21:21.12 | grahamsaa | holy shit, they were using regexps? |
| 21:21.13 | grahamsaa | god help us |
| 21:21.16 | grahamsaa | :p |
| 21:21.19 | drmessano | Reminds me of the Dave Chappelle "Black Bush" skit |
| 21:21.26 | drmessano | HE BOUGHT YELLOW CAKE |
| 21:21.52 | drmessano | Do you have idea what you can do with an aluminum tube? |
| 21:21.57 | drmessano | ALUMINUM |
| 21:22.13 | grahamsaa | my bike frame is illuminum; should I be concerned about that? |
| 21:22.25 | drmessano | heh |
| 21:22.46 | Nugget | "They're shooting at the CANS!" |
| 21:23.02 | grahamsaa | seriously, out of all of the pictures they could have posted to go with that article, they had to pick the one of the "unix power tools" book |
| 21:23.26 | grahamsaa | I'm sure that will terrify the rest of society, but it just betrays the ignorance of the press |
| 21:24.49 | drmessano | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6XEvnt8EoU |
| 21:24.51 | drmessano | There you go |
| 21:25.44 | cviniciusm | Do you think a hacker will use Windows books? |
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| 21:25.56 | brunner | Does anyone here have experience with sigtran? |
| 21:26.50 | drmessano | Im disappointed they had a book on Unix |
| 21:26.59 | drmessano | Shows they were too stupid to use MAN |
| 21:27.04 | drmessano | or Google |
| 21:27.25 | grahamsaa | true |
| 21:28.32 | drmessano | Would have been +++++ if they had the Asterisk for Dummies book |
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| 21:29.18 | cviniciusm | If they had a Windows book then it will be a joke. |
| 21:29.30 | grahamsaa | brue |
| 21:29.43 | drmessano | yes, we get it.. windows sucks.. say something funny and less obvious |
| 21:31.27 | grahamsaa | thanks for the black bush link |
| 21:31.29 | grahamsaa | pretty funny stuff |
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| 21:33.25 | grahamsaa | a'ight, I gotta get back to work on this presentation |
| 21:33.42 | grahamsaa | I'll be back later |
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| 21:34.00 | drmessano | "Stankonia is sending Bombs Over Baghdad" |
| 21:34.02 | drmessano | Love that |
| 21:34.18 | grahamsaa | :) |
| 21:41.55 | brunner | If anyone knows anyone who knows about SIGTRAN, or SS7 in general, please let me know. |
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| 21:43.04 | Mango | Are the system requirements of 1.6 significantly greater than 1.4? |
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| 21:53.07 | cviniciusm | Hello, I did do the simplest extensions.conf configuration. But now I'm getting the error: "[Aug 30 18:50:34] WARNING[3157]: app_dial.c:1518 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 20 - Unknown)". Any ideas, please? |
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| 22:11.03 | manxpower | Mango: they should not be. |
| 22:11.28 | manxpower | cviniciusm: Paste the CLI output of just JUST the dial line that is causing that error |
| 22:12.27 | cviniciusm | -- Executing [1002@softphones:2] Dial("SIP/1001-08213068", "SIP/1002,20") in new stack == Using SIP RTP CoS mark 5 [Aug 30 19:09:37] WARNING[4095]: app_dial.c:1518 dial_exec_full: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 20 - Unknown) == Everyone is busy/congested at this time (1:0/0/1) |
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| 22:13.18 | manxpower | OK. You should have a [1002] section in sip.conf. Put that on pastebin.ca |
| 22:14.53 | manxpower | also put the output of the "sip show peers" command in that pastebin.ca post as well |
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| 22:16.34 | cviniciusm | manxpower, first: http://pastebin.ca/1548646 |
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| 22:18.51 | cviniciusm | maxpower, I updated this paste bin with the "show sip peers". |
| 22:19.22 | manxpower | i don't see the update |
| 22:20.25 | manxpower | pastebin will normally give you a new URL when you update a paste |
| 22:21.13 | cviniciusm | maxpower, the new URL: http://pastebin.ca/1548651 |
| 22:22.12 | manxpower | The (Unspecified)Â means the softphone has not registered so Asterisk does not know what IP to send the call to. You can send calls TO Asterisk even if the phone is not registered. Figure out why the phones are not registered. I don't use softphones so I can't help you with that. |
| 22:23.04 | cviniciusm | Thanks, I'll see this. |
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| 22:23.58 | manxpower | Regstration just tells Asterisk what IP is associated with that SIP account. |
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| 22:28.25 | cviniciusm | Yes, I have changed the softphones configuration to register with the domain and receive incoming calls. Now the calls worked fine. Thank you very much! |
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| 22:59.46 | cviniciusm | Bye to all. |
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| 23:20.24 | ardor | getting an error trying to install asterisk-addons 1.6.1.1 |
| 23:20.50 | ardor | with my make install command. fails on "chan_ooh323.c:3158: error: expected â)â before string constant" |
| 23:27.38 | ardor | here is the problem i have, but no reply. |
| 23:27.38 | ardor | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726827 |
| 23:35.12 | grahamsaa | ~exten |
| 23:35.13 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, exten is ${EXTEN} in a line is *always* the same as whatever is between the => and the first comma in the line. |
| 23:43.45 | ardor | Whatever!! i guess i just wont install Aseterisk Addons.. |
| 23:43.47 | ardor | what a joke |
| 23:44.20 | grahamsaa | ardor -- sorry I've got nothing for you |
| 23:44.30 | grahamsaa | but on a sunday night things can be a bit slow |
| 23:44.38 | ardor | I understand, I just think there should be a apt-get install asterisk-addons |
| 23:44.46 | grahamsaa | I agree wholeheartedly |
| 23:44.49 | ardor | and I dont understand, Asterisk is only for Redhat based Linux? |
| 23:44.57 | grahamsaa | no, not at all |
| 23:45.01 | grahamsaa | it will run on any *nix |
| 23:45.06 | ardor | just not the addons? |
| 23:45.11 | grahamsaa | it supposedly runs on windows too, though I've heard it's buggy |
| 23:45.19 | grahamsaa | do you have any experience debugging? |
| 23:45.32 | grahamsaa | it looks like there's an issue on line 1358 of chan_ooh323.c |
| 23:45.37 | ardor | not enough, |
| 23:45.39 | grahamsaa | on or near line 1358 |
| 23:45.45 | drmessano | AsteriskWin32 is buggy.. which is an old attempt at making 1.2 run on Windows |
| 23:45.55 | ardor | dont have the time. I am upgradding my Fedora Core 4 box to Ununtu |
| 23:45.57 | drmessano | No real info on 1.6 running on Windows |
| 23:46.03 | ardor | its going badly with the asterisk reinstall |
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| 23:49.44 | sergey | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.19 | [TK]D-Fender | ardor: You said you're installing Addons 1.6.1.1. that post was for 1.4.6 |
| 23:54.10 | ardor | [TK]D-Fender: i have the same error message |
| 23:54.21 | ardor | looks like a problem since march 2008, I dont understand. |
| 23:55.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ardor: Show your porblem with live info, SW versions, etc any maybe we can do something. |
| 23:57.15 | ardor | dont see what was wrong with that post from march 2008; dont see why posting a new message is going to make a different. |
| 23:57.20 | ardor | when its the same problem. |
| 23:57.49 | [TK]D-Fender | ardor: Sorry, but that is nothing to go on. We can't see what sources are located where, etc. Can see what lib versions were installed. |
| 23:57.54 | ardor | well other then, that post was on the ubuntu forum, should post something in asterisk |
| 23:58.06 | [TK]D-Fender | ardor: Hi, my car is green why won't it start? |
| 23:58.39 | Nugget | heh |
| 23:58.42 | manxpower | sergey: All calls out FXO ports are considered answered as soon as they are dialed. This is the way FXO works. |
| 23:58.43 | ardor | usually with green cars you just have to commit out line 3321 from gasintake.h |
| 23:58.57 | [TK]D-Fender | ardor: So when you open the hood a bit more maybe we'll be able to help you |
| 23:59.09 | [TK]D-Fender | is off for FOOD... |
| 23:59.09 | Nugget | I heard the green car bug was fixed in svn trunk. you should run that in production. |
| 23:59.10 | [TK]D-Fender | back later...ish |
| 23:59.17 | [TK]D-Fender | ... |
| 23:59.19 | [TK]D-Fender | telnet |
| 23:59.20 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 23:59.23 | Nugget | :D |
| 23:59.29 | [TK]D-Fender | pushes a few more buttons... |
| 23:59.30 | [TK]D-Fender | :D |
| 23:59.32 | [TK]D-Fender | BBIAB |