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| 01:48.47 | hesco | does asterisk do a sanity check on the ownership and permissions of its spools when it is restarted? My custom perms are being lost, and I assume it happened when I shut down the server and restarted it. |
| 01:54.12 | Gokee2 | So I am trying to learn a little more about asterisk by making a simple setup and having it connect to sipgate. I has started running through the books examples at chapter 4. I stuck the dialplan on page 72 into extensions.conf and ran "asterisk -r" then I did dialplan reload and dialplan show. However I ended up with a huge long list of things ending with "-= 26 extensions (63 priorities) in 24 contexts. =-" I guess all this stuff is f |
| 01:54.19 | Gokee2 | rom a example somewhere? Does something other then extensions.conf go into a dialplan? It would be nice to have it be simple for going through the book... The books dialplan show "-= 1 extension (1 priority) in 5 contexts. =-" looks MUCH nicer |
| 01:55.08 | L2Logic | has anyone experienced music on hold that sounds excessively loud.. almost as thought it's clipping.. ? |
| 02:06.04 | hesco | Gokee2: take a look at /etc/asterisk/* |
| 02:07.07 | hesco | extensions.conf is the base for your dialplan, but it can do multiple #include some_other_file.conf as well. |
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| 02:14.30 | hesco | when voip-info shows this example: SoftHangup(SIP/1234|a), is that '1234' an extension number? or a channel? The syntax reads: SoftHangup(Technology/resource[|a]). So what exactly is a 'resource' ??? |
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| 02:15.56 | TJNII | SIP/1234 references [1234] in sip.conf |
| 02:16.15 | hesco | so it is a context ? |
| 02:17.51 | TJNII | No, I don't think context would be the right term. AFAIK the term context is only used in regards to the dialplan. |
| 02:18.09 | Gokee2 | hesco, Hmm it has a "include => internal" is that adding a whole buncha stuff? |
| 02:18.33 | TJNII | Gokee2: Where did your initial configs come from? |
| 02:18.34 | Gokee2 | has looked in /etc/asterisk but has no idea yet what all the files do |
| 02:18.43 | Gokee2 | TJNII, Debian |
| 02:19.03 | TJNII | Fresh install? |
| 02:19.09 | hesco | Gokee: I'm guessing debian gave you a build samples in its binary install |
| 02:19.25 | Gokee2 | TJNII, Yes |
| 02:19.43 | hesco | move all those files aside and start from scratch if you ever hope to wrap your head around what those files do. |
| 02:19.46 | TJNII | Gokee2: Clean installs generally come with an example dialplan that has a initial voice menu. |
| 02:20.16 | TJNII | Gokee2: You probably want to backup the initial configs (for reference) and start with a clean extensions.conf. |
| 02:21.24 | hesco | I'd suggest you start with only these files: asterisk.conf, cdr.conf, extensions.conf, features.conf, iax.conf, modules.conf, sip.conf, voicemail.conf |
| 02:21.24 | Gokee2 | did start with a clean extensions.config I guess I will move everything off to another folder and start with a empty /etc/asterisk will everything still start then? |
| 02:21.42 | Gokee2 | Ah ok |
| 02:21.50 | Gokee2 | I will leave those files |
| 02:21.52 | hesco | no, but resolving what is broken will teach you what things do |
| 02:22.09 | TJNII | Gokee2: Do you have a phone connecting? |
| 02:22.36 | hesco | the sample configs are generally far more complex than necessary for most folks wanting to learn how this thing is put together. |
| 02:22.40 | Gokee2 | TJNII, No phones yet, I was planing to play with things with a softphone on my workstation |
| 02:22.51 | hesco | good way to start |
| 02:22.53 | TJNII | Fo you have a softphone connecting yet? |
| 02:23.00 | TJNII | s/Fo/Do/ |
| 02:23.15 | TJNII | pats infobot |
| 02:23.41 | Gokee2 | No, in fact I have not found a softphone yet... I was starting with reading the book and trying to apply the config from there to get things going |
| 02:23.58 | hesco | Gokee2: grep internal /etc/asterisk/* to figure out where that context is coming from and what it might be bringing in with it |
| 02:25.14 | Gokee2 | Hmm |
| 02:25.16 | TJNII | Gokee2: You should really have a phone connected before you start a dialplan. Otherwise, you have no way to test. |
| 02:26.23 | Gokee2 | Not much is said about internal, it has the lines in the extensions.conf, then a bunch of lines with the work internal in a comment.... |
| 02:27.16 | Gokee2 | TJNII, I can connect a phone before having a config for the phone? The basic extensions.config was the first config thing I ran into in the book |
| 02:27.39 | Gokee2 | (Well I thought about skipping to sip phone setup but came back to the start to go through it in order |
| 02:28.04 | TJNII | Gokee2: You need to edit sip.conf to get a SIP softphone like Ekiga connecting. Then, you will be able to use the example dialplan. |
| 02:28.10 | hesco | six of one, you need a phone to connect with, the phone needs a dialplan to test against |
| 02:28.40 | TJNII | You don't edit extensions.conf to connect a phone. |
| 02:28.42 | hesco | but what TJNII says is a reasonable way to proceed |
| 02:28.49 | Gokee2 | Ah |
| 02:29.28 | hesco | use the sample extensions.conf to make your phone work, then move it aside and start writing your own extensions.conf to learn how those are put together. |
| 02:30.12 | hesco | So is this a reasonable way to use this app()? I've never messed with SoftHagup() before. exten => 992,n,SoftHangup(IAX/${OUTBOUND_CHANNEL}) |
| 02:30.53 | hesco | I want to hand up on the outbound call while leaving my agent connected and available for the next call bridged in. |
| 02:31.15 | TJNII | lol whut? |
| 02:31.17 | hesco | s/SoftHagup/SoftHangup/ |
| 02:31.33 | hesco | s/hand/hang/ |
| 02:31.46 | TJNII | Why doesn't the agent hang up the call? Who dials that extension? |
| 02:31.58 | hesco | the application I am writing |
| 02:32.26 | TJNII | Why does the application hang up and not the user? |
| 02:32.28 | hesco | its a boilerroom application, to overwork the poor call agents who never gets a break |
| 02:33.00 | hesco | unless they specifically send a signal to the application to pause or stop the dialer. |
| 02:33.49 | hesco | the outbound call recipient will hang up, then I need the application to terminate that call, w/o losing the connection to the agent. |
| 02:34.02 | hesco | I was told that SoftHangup() was the tool of choice for this scenario/ |
| 02:34.15 | TJNII | The call will be hung up when the other side hangs up. The call will already be hung up. |
| 02:34.42 | TJNII | What do you mean my "losing the connection to the agent" |
| 02:35.09 | TJNII | Though the syntax of the extension posted above does appear correct. |
| 02:35.17 | hesco | The connection to the agent needs to stay up so the next connected number can be bridged in. |
| 02:35.32 | hesco | thanks. |
| 02:35.56 | TJNII | What connection? That will hang up the call the agent is on. Hanging up their phone. |
| 02:36.25 | TJNII | Which, it sounds like, is already hung up if the callee has hung up. |
| 02:36.34 | hesco | agent <=> server <=> outbound_recipient |
| 02:37.09 | hesco | if the outbound_recipient hangs up, I don't want the agent to have to log back in to accept the next phone number. |
| 02:37.21 | TJNII | Log back into the queue? |
| 02:37.23 | TJNII | They don't |
| 02:37.34 | TJNII | AFAIK, That is the whole point of agent logins. |
| 02:37.35 | hesco | its not a queue. |
| 02:37.43 | TJNII | LOG INTO WHAT? |
| 02:37.48 | hesco | its a dialer application |
| 02:38.10 | hesco | As I understand it, a queue is dispatching inbound calls. |
| 02:38.18 | hesco | this application makes outbound calls |
| 02:38.22 | TJNII | okay.... |
| 02:38.44 | Gokee2 | Ok so I moved out like 50-60 files leaving asterisk.conf extensions.conf iax.conf originals voicemail.conf cdr.conf features.conf modules.conf sip.conf. However now when I do show dialplan it gives me "-= 0 extensions (0 priorities) in 0 contexts. =-" even though I have the simple dialplan from the book in extensions.conf. Any idea why nothing is showing up? |
| 02:39.07 | hesco | works a call list for the agent, until a connection is made, then bridges the call to the agent, until the outbound recipient hangs up, then starts dialing again, rinse and repeat |
| 02:39.47 | hesco | have you reloaded your dialplan? |
| 02:40.24 | Gokee2 | Yes |
| 02:40.37 | TJNII | Gokee2: pastebin what you have for extensions.conf |
| 02:40.39 | TJNII | ~pb |
| 02:40.39 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 02:41.18 | Gokee2 | TJNII, pl |
| 02:42.03 | TJNII | hesco: Okay, I follow. I'm not convinced that softhangup is what you want, but I don't know enough about what you are trying to do to give meaningful input. Good luck. |
| 02:42.45 | Gokee2 | er... maybe I forgot to reload... It gives me "No such command 'dialplan reload' (type 'help dialplan reload' for other possible commands)" |
| 02:44.04 | hesco | thank you |
| 02:44.33 | hesco | you did answer my question about the syntax for SoftHangup(), whether that is the right tool for the job or not |
| 02:45.01 | hesco | Gokee2: when in doubt, use your <TAB> key |
| 02:45.17 | hesco | from an empty *CLI> prompt, use your <TAB> key |
| 02:46.09 | TJNII | Gokee2: "dialplan reload" should be a valid command. Does "help dialplan" on the cli show it as being valid? |
| 02:46.40 | Gokee2 | Nope, just "dialplan show Show dialplan" |
| 02:47.37 | TJNII | I think you nuked something important. I would put the examples back. |
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| 02:48.14 | Gokee2 | all of them? |
| 02:48.54 | LeddyHM | In a polycom configuration file is there any non allowed characters for the auth.password? |
| 02:49.09 | LeddyHM | i.e. are special chars allowed? |
| 02:49.53 | TJNII | Gokee2: To start with, yes. The examples are there to help you get started. Once you understand what they are / why they are there you can go back to them. |
| 02:50.06 | TJNII | My suggestion to remove files before was premature. |
| 02:50.53 | TJNII | Wait a seconf |
| 02:50.54 | Gokee2 | Heh, ok, I was beginning to like the nice empty feel of the asterisk dir though |
| 02:51.03 | TJNII | Gokee2: You installed through apt? |
| 02:51.08 | Gokee2 | Yes |
| 02:51.11 | TJNII | Gokee2: What version are you using? |
| 02:51.23 | TJNII | Probably 1.2 something, right? |
| 02:51.34 | Gokee2 | 1:1.4.21.2~dfsg-3 |
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| 02:52.13 | Gokee2 | TJNII, WB, and 1.4.21.2~dfsg-3 |
| 02:52.27 | TJNII | Okay, they've caught up, then. |
| 02:52.38 | TJNII | yea, dialplan reload should work. |
| 02:53.19 | Gokee2 | dialplan had been working, if I stick the other files back though I am gonna end up with the really long dialplan again though |
| 02:54.17 | TJNII | Well, put them back and restart asterisk. If dialplan reload starts working then we know you removed something you shouldn't have |
| 02:55.21 | Gokee2 | Yep it does |
| 02:55.41 | Gokee2 | And the dialplan is back to showing 26 extensions (63 priorities) in 24 contexts. |
| 02:56.08 | hesco | ok, now comment everything out with a leading semicolon |
| 02:56.18 | hesco | and paste in the dialplan you want. |
| 02:56.22 | TJNII | Gokee2: Now, I would get a softphone connected. |
| 02:56.38 | hesco | actually, more simply, just move the sample dialplan aside and yours in its place. |
| 02:56.51 | hesco | yeah, what TJNII said |
| 02:56.54 | Gokee2 | hesco, I have everything gone from extensions.config exeapt a few simple things |
| 02:57.03 | TJNII | Gokee2: pastebin it |
| 02:57.13 | hesco | ~pb |
| 02:57.13 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 02:58.08 | Gokee2 | kk |
| 02:59.41 | Gokee2 | http://pastebin.com/d686547ab |
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| 03:01.23 | TJNII | Gokee2: Does dialplan show jive with that? |
| 03:02.20 | Gokee2 | dialplan show is huge http://pastebin.com/d6077ecd8 |
| 03:02.52 | TJNII | And you have reloaded since editing extensions.conf, correct? |
| 03:03.08 | Gokee2 | Yes |
| 03:03.21 | TJNII | Which file are you editing? I want the whole path from / |
| 03:04.50 | Gokee2 | TJNII, /etc/asterisk/extensions.conf |
| 03:06.27 | TJNII | Okay. If memory serves the version of * in apt is set up to use non-standard file locations. It has been "Debianized," so to speak. Pastebin your /etc/asterisk/asterisk.conf |
| 03:06.46 | TJNII | I haven't installed * from apt in years, though, so this might be a red herring. |
| 03:07.59 | Gokee2 | http://pastebin.com/d2ccac906 |
| 03:09.10 | TJNII | Okay. That's not it. |
| 03:09.13 | TJNII | thinks |
| 03:11.10 | TJNII | Are you erasing the pastebins? |
| 03:12.42 | Gokee2 | Hmm, ya I think I might have hit delete while going to a new post |
| 03:12.54 | Gokee2 | Sorry, did you want one back? |
| 03:13.13 | TJNII | I would like to look at extensions.conf compared to the output of dialplan reload again. |
| 03:14.55 | Gokee2 | Config http://pastebin.com/d9d21aef plan show http://pastebin.com/d4a740d20 |
| 03:17.17 | Gokee2 | Ahha! |
| 03:17.41 | Gokee2 | I moved extensions.ael to another place and now my dialplan is small |
| 03:17.44 | L2Logic | Does anyone know of an editor that works well with asterisk... nicely highlights, suggests, correct syntax in for asterisk ? |
| 03:17.52 | TJNII | Aaah. |
| 03:18.03 | TJNII | Gokee2: Does it jive now? |
| 03:18.04 | Gokee2 | Any idea what extensions.ael is? |
| 03:18.30 | TJNII | Gokee2: If memory serves it is the dialplan but in a different, more C like syntax. |
| 03:18.36 | Gokee2 | TJNII, Yep, looks just like the book nw |
| 03:18.41 | Gokee2 | s/nw/now |
| 03:19.18 | TJNII | Good. Now, I would connect a sip phone and then start drawing up a dialplan. |
| 03:20.08 | Gokee2 | Ok, would you skip over to Configuring an IAX Softphone then? Any suggestions on a good softphone? |
| 03:21.00 | Gokee2 | Er or a sip phone? |
| 03:21.07 | Gokee2 | wonders which he wants |
| 03:21.19 | TJNII | Some recommend Zoiper, I've had good luck with Ekiga |
| 03:22.08 | Gokee2 | Ah I already have ekiga installed :) |
| 03:22.09 | hesco | I started with Ekiga, but don't use any myself. Last week I installed several xlite's for a client |
| 03:22.20 | TJNII | is off to game like it is 1994 |
| 03:22.28 | TJNII | dosbox ftw! |
| 03:23.23 | hesco | L2Logic: if you know enough about how vim is put together, you could write an add-on for vim which would do that. |
| 03:23.51 | hesco | I rely on such addons others have written for syntax highlighting for my perl code. |
| 03:24.14 | hesco | if you find one for vim and asterisk, I'd love to know about it |
| 03:24.55 | L2Logic | i've been using asterisk as a soft switch for a couple of years.. however, i'm very very new to linux... |
| 03:41.21 | hesco | there are good tutorials for vin online. and it does have a powerful syntax highlight feature. But apparently you have to install something to teach it appropriate syntax to make that work. |
| 03:41.36 | hesco | s/vin/vim |
| 03:42.45 | hesco | does anyone know how to capture the *CLI> console output before its scrolls away out of existence? |
| 03:43.13 | hesco | I sure would appreciate an opportunity to study it to determine what I'm missing here. |
| 03:44.44 | JayTee52 | I usually set my scroll buffer really high so I can scroll backwards |
| 03:46.08 | JayTee52 | or you can use the tee command to pipe the CLI output to a file |
| 03:46.33 | JayTee52 | asterisk -vvvvvvr | tee somecrap.log |
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| 03:46.48 | RypPn | or you could just look in /var/log/asterisk/full |
| 03:47.10 | JayTee52 | RypPn, not everything gets logged from the CLI there |
| 03:47.29 | johnakabean | I made an AGI script with variables; how do I include the variables set in the agi script in astersisk..........just a guess of ${AGI($variable)} ??? |
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| 03:59.13 | hesco | johnakabean: in my .agi script, I go: print "SET VARIABLE SID $sid \n"; |
| 03:59.28 | hesco | then back in the dialplan, I can use ${SID} |
| 04:00.01 | hesco | JayTee52: thanks, that tee looks useful to me |
| 04:01.55 | JayTee52 | hesco, it's very helpful when you want to use sip debug or pri debug and you get tons of info flying across the terminal window. capturing to a file lets you review it later but you can't keep the asterisk CLI window open forever or the file will eat up all your free disk space eventually. |
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| 04:34.31 | hesco | JayTee52, I would want to tee just a single test, then quite the CLI and restart it again, while I study what happened. |
| 04:34.46 | hesco | that's enough for me tonight. |
| 04:34.52 | hesco | I'm back again Sunday |
| 04:34.58 | hesco | g'night all |
| 04:34.59 | JayTee52 | nite |
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| 06:08.08 | dandate2 | what kind of hardware is needed to handle 40 incomming callers in queue with 15 agents answering the phones? my current pbx hits 100% cpu load and goes to hell |
| 06:08.44 | dandate2 | all of the agents are remote and everything is compressed to gsm or g729 |
| 06:09.08 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: Any P4 can do. |
| 06:09.15 | _joe | anyone know if there's a way i can mute an extension (just audio transmission *from* the extension) from the asterisk console? |
| 06:09.30 | _joe | i have a cisco 7905 ip phone that lacks a mute button ;) |
| 06:09.35 | [TK]D-Fender | _joe: No. |
| 06:09.43 | _joe | [TK]D-Fender: common question? |
| 06:09.44 | dandate2 | fender: that is strange because i am using a dell dual core machine but the freepbx gui reports stuck at 100% cpu load when it hits 50 channels |
| 06:09.50 | [TK]D-Fender | _joe: No. |
| 06:09.54 | _joe | [TK]D-Fender: ah, ok |
| 06:10.30 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: What hits 100% What versions? What other activities. Your description is incredibly weak... |
| 06:11.11 | dandate2 | sorry the cpu use hits 100% in asterisk 1.4, there are a max of 40 people calling into a sales line which plays music on hold while they wait for an available agent |
| 06:11.27 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: 1.4.WHAT? |
| 06:11.41 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: Please provide real detail... |
| 06:12.11 | dandate2 | asterisk 1.4.21.2 |
| 06:12.27 | KyleK | dandate2: what format is the moh in?\ |
| 06:12.28 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: Already old.... now for the rest... |
| 06:12.46 | dandate2 | its the default moh with pbxinaflash |
| 06:12.47 | [TK]D-Fender | KyleK: Excellent question |
| 06:12.54 | KyleK | 1.4.21.2 is the version ubuntu has :-/ |
| 06:13.00 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: Meaningless trash. Go get a real answer |
| 06:13.32 | dandate2 | .wav files |
| 06:14.20 | dandate2 | the queue group's moh is set to "default" |
| 06:15.04 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: .wav = horrific judgement call |
| 06:15.24 | drmessano | I probably wouldnt use an emachine hosting my website for it |
| 06:15.28 | [TK]D-Fender | transcoding MoH, esp to G.729 = DUMB |
| 06:15.33 | dandate2 | i'll send $150 to bandwidth.com to get this fixed if i can be promised I don't need an upgraded computer, i'm currently travelling abroad and its being monitored by a woman... |
| 06:15.42 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: No, he's got a Dell Optiplex Server! |
| 06:16.06 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:16.09 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: Why does bandwidth.com have to fix your poor deployment? |
| 06:16.18 | drmessano | But I didnt know... Oh, i see what you did there |
| 06:16.22 | KyleK | eh |
| 06:16.27 | dandate2 | i just need a freelancer if the resolution is not simple |
| 06:16.44 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: replace your MoH, then your Clue. |
| 06:16.51 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: You clearly need a new one |
| 06:16.55 | dandate2 | Clue? |
| 06:17.01 | KyleK | sec |
| 06:17.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ERROR: Clue not found! |
| 06:17.19 | [TK]D-Fender | :p |
| 06:17.22 | dandate2 | err |
| 06:17.32 | dandate2 | what should i do exactly to the moh? |
| 06:17.49 | KyleK | http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/sounds/ |
| 06:17.49 | drmessano | Move it to the Lenovo |
| 06:17.57 | dandate2 | there are no agents on the local network of the pbx so i have everything set to gsm and g729 |
| 06:18.00 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: REPLACE IT |
| 06:18.25 | *** join/#asterisk ReDNeQ (n=ReDNeQ@70.114.229.58) |
| 06:18.27 | KyleK | http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/sounds/ <-- get whatever formats of the moh you think you'll need |
| 06:19.14 | dandate2 | but my trunks are set to ulaw,alaaw |
| 06:19.26 | dandate2 | only the extentions themselves are configuerd to g729, gsm |
| 06:19.58 | drmessano | HA |
| 06:20.21 | drmessano | Set your trunks to G279 |
| 06:20.24 | drmessano | G729 |
| 06:20.38 | drmessano | or switch the extensions to ULAW |
| 06:20.50 | KyleK | so incoming calls are verified to be ulaw or alaw and therefore you should have the ulaws or alaws on hand? |
| 06:20.50 | drmessano | "Lets trancode, 3 or 4 times" |
| 06:20.58 | dandate2 | ok, will i still need to replace the moh? i don't want to set the extentions to ulaw because they are all remote to the network |
| 06:21.12 | drmessano | Every call is trancoding |
| 06:21.29 | drmessano | ~clue |
| 06:21.30 | infobot | i heard clue is a very useful thing indeed. |
| 06:21.40 | dandate2 | the pbx is in san francisco and all my agents are across america |
| 06:21.51 | drmessano | Every call is trancoding, dont give a fuck where they are |
| 06:21.59 | drmessano | ~clue |
| 06:22.00 | infobot | methinks clue is a very useful thing indeed. |
| 06:22.10 | dandate2 | ~clue |
| 06:22.11 | infobot | [clue] a very useful thing indeed. |
| 06:22.14 | KyleK | dandate2: get the right formats for moh either way, save yourself the CPU from transcoding for people on hold |
| 06:22.42 | *** join/#asterisk TJNII (n=TJNII@207.189.199.58) |
| 06:22.51 | dandate2 | i'm afraid to make any changes myself everything might go to hell and not be fixed before the calls roll in in 6 hours, anyone up for a freelance job? |
| 06:24.41 | drmessano | I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole.. |
| 06:25.34 | dandate2 | lol |
| 06:25.48 | [TK]D-Fender | opens a 12' Pole shop |
| 06:26.47 | dandate2 | i guess i'll create a ticket at bandwidth.com then |
| 06:28.47 | drmessano | I'm sure there's nothing illegal about any of dandate2's shady, underhanded business dealings .. AT ALL |
| 06:29.24 | dandate2 | very funny |
| 06:29.28 | KyleK | ooo you're fiestier than normal |
| 06:30.27 | dandate2 | the libel! |
| 06:30.57 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (n=tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) |
| 06:31.31 | drmessano | libel? |
| 06:31.37 | *** join/#asterisk cyberfab007 (n=cyberfab@CPE001b11cf4f69-CM0014f85c3ada.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 06:31.37 | dandate2 | libelious statements heh |
| 06:31.37 | KyleK | dandate2: are you sure you cant just get away with making the peeps on hold get non transcoded moh? |
| 06:31.52 | drmessano | digs up the chat logs from where dandate2 stole a workstation from Circuit City |
| 06:32.00 | dandate2 | i don't want to mess with it because its my production line machine i'd rather have an engineer do even simple tasks |
| 06:32.09 | dandate2 | and i'll request to have my asterisk version upgraded to |
| 06:32.24 | drmessano | Translation: The box is an eMachine and unstable as hell |
| 06:32.30 | dandate2 | this kind of sucks though the bandwidth.com page is broken, it says $125/hr for support but gives no option to sign up for it. must have changed since i last used it |
| 06:32.43 | dandate2 | haha no my laptop is an emachine lol |
| 06:33.06 | KyleK | yea getting asterisk upgraded is worth the support call, something you could do from within the asterisk cli isn't so much :o |
| 06:33.07 | dandate2 | the box is dell desktop dual core, waas told some months ago by someone here it should be more than sufficient |
| 06:33.19 | drmessano | lol |
| 06:33.44 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender wasn't kidding |
| 06:33.56 | dandate2 | that it could run on a p4? |
| 06:34.00 | dandate2 | a single core p4? |
| 06:34.13 | KyleK | hmm i guess i could test cpu usage of g729 with the stuff i have on hand |
| 06:34.31 | drmessano | You're transcoding like a motherfucker, dude |
| 06:34.42 | dandate2 | yeah i realize that one now |
| 06:34.51 | drmessano | Fix the MOH, and all your calls are transcoding |
| 06:35.08 | dandate2 | the cli reports the incomming calls as ulaw though, are you sure the moh is being transcoded? |
| 06:35.23 | KyleK | dandate2: you have .wav's in the directory according to you |
| 06:35.28 | drmessano | Who gives a shit.. the actual call is |
| 06:35.36 | drmessano | Dont fix half the problem |
| 06:35.39 | dandate2 | yes .wav's came with pbx in a flash |
| 06:35.54 | dandate2 | i don't understand that much about the pbx honestly i'm going to need to hire someone |
| 06:36.00 | KyleK | pshaw |
| 06:36.13 | KyleK | pastebin an ls -l of that dir |
| 06:36.24 | dandate2 | the moh directory? |
| 06:36.24 | drmessano | HAW |
| 06:36.28 | KyleK | ya |
| 06:36.43 | KyleK | on my todo list is program something in ruby on rails |
| 06:36.57 | KyleK | so gosh darn it i'll push you to the moon to put this off :) |
| 06:37.17 | dandate2 | http://pastebin.ca/1563927 |
| 06:37.22 | drmessano | KyleK: Good luck, when it comes to Asterisk, he's a martian |
| 06:37.52 | KyleK | hrm those files aren't available any more |
| 06:38.04 | KyleK | digium changed its hold music awhile back |
| 06:38.26 | drmessano | dandate2 and I go way back... Back even before he stole that lenovo from Circuit City by lying about it's usability and demanding a chargeback on a non-returnable item |
| 06:38.39 | dandate2 | the chargeback got reveresed |
| 06:38.54 | dandate2 | but i was kind of screwed i couldn't use it as a pbx because the network card was not compatible with asterisk |
| 06:39.08 | [TK]D-Fender | ... |
| 06:39.15 | drmessano | The network card wasn't compatible with Asterisk??? |
| 06:39.21 | drmessano | It just never ends with you |
| 06:39.22 | [TK]D-Fender | How the fuck is a NETWORK CARD not compatible with ASTERISK? |
| 06:39.30 | dandate2 | yeah like pbx in a flash wouldn't install and gave some network errror |
| 06:39.40 | dandate2 | i didnt' udnerstand it much at the time which is why i paniced, tried to return it, and called my bank hella pissed |
| 06:39.46 | drmessano | Can you join IRC ONCE and not lie out your ass for hours on end? |
| 06:40.05 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: WOAH there.... what do you mean "at the time"? |
| 06:40.08 | drmessano | Jeesh |
| 06:40.11 | KyleK | drmessano: pointing at a case and calling it a cpu isn't necessarily lying |
| 06:40.13 | dandate2 | well that was umm january |
| 06:40.35 | drmessano | KyleK: Huh? |
| 06:40.40 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: Sorry, I'm not ready to validate that you anything more NOW... lets not get delusional! |
| 06:41.08 | dandate2 | i started using a pbx for the first time in january and purchased a lenovo to host it but piaf wouldn't install because of some hardware error so i tried to return it but they said no returns |
| 06:41.51 | drmessano | and you told them the sales guy told you it would work as a "server" and you demanded a chargeback |
| 06:41.59 | dandate2 | yeah that was true heh |
| 06:42.15 | KyleK | drmessano: call him a lier for the lies not the pebkac's ;) |
| 06:42.18 | drmessano | Yeah, lies |
| 06:42.33 | drmessano | KyleK: Pull your head out of your ass, he just said he lied |
| 06:42.45 | drmessano | KyleK: DUR? |
| 06:42.48 | dandate2 | ahh back then i didn't even know that a server looked different from a desktop and was really loud like a vaccuum hah |
| 06:43.09 | KyleK | drmessano: I'm not seeing how being a noob = lying |
| 06:43.26 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: What do you mean looks different from a desktop? |
| 06:43.28 | drmessano | KyleK: You dont know the whole story as it played out, so just drop it.. |
| 06:43.42 | drmessano | KyleK: He admitted back then he LIED to them to get a chargeback |
| 06:43.43 | dandate2 | well the servers are very flat i think they have a u shape classification |
| 06:44.00 | dandate2 | oh yeah i told my bank anything |
| 06:44.02 | drmessano | KyleK: Then the story became "I didnt know what a server is.. I am soooo dumb" |
| 06:44.19 | dandate2 | but they reversed it anyway, its impossible to get a chargeback through |
| 06:44.24 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: http://www1.ca.dell.com/ca/en/business/servers/server-poweredge-t100/pd.aspx?refid=server-poweredge-t100&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1 |
| 06:44.31 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: Sure looks like a "desktop" |
| 06:44.59 | [TK]D-Fender | dandate2: And you are still clueless. Next you'll think my car is a sports car because it's RED |
| 06:45.12 | dandate2 | well thats not a rack server i guess |
| 06:45.13 | dandate2 | heh |
| 06:45.22 | KyleK | eww celerons are still made? |
| 06:45.38 | *** join/#asterisk [gnubie] (n=[gnubie]@119.56.59.41) |
| 06:46.11 | [TK]D-Fender | KyleK: Yup, plenty of... |
| 06:46.57 | drmessano | Celeron D 3.06GHZ 64-bit sitting behind me as my home file server, heh |
| 06:47.12 | drmessano | runs 40 calls of G729, trancoded, through it |
| 06:47.17 | drmessano | +s |
| 06:49.30 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Mine is an AMD AXP 2500+ w/ 256meg.... not glorius either |
| 06:50.45 | KyleK | I've got some sort of socket 478 2.4ghz celeron with a gig of SDRAM |
| 06:52.18 | drmessano | I am running Asterisk here in a Dell B110 2.35GHZ with 1GB Ram, and 160GB PATA RAID1.. |
| 06:52.55 | KyleK | software sata raid for me bwahaha |
| 06:52.57 | drmessano | Not too bad for handling about 40 home users, scattered across the country |
| 06:59.11 | dandate2 | ahh my mistake it wasn't bandwith.com , i had my account at kayako.freepbx.org |
| 06:59.26 | dandate2 | so in the ticket details i should mention "end transcoding of moh" and upgrade asterisk? |
| 07:01.38 | KyleK | "make the moh available in multiple formats" maybe |
| 07:03.11 | [TK]D-Fender | checkout time, later all |
| 07:03.14 | KyleK | "make the moh available in multiple formats to remove CPU usage transcoding" be clear on what they're supposed to do i guess |
| 07:05.06 | dandate2 | ok |
| 07:05.08 | dandate2 | thanks |
| 07:11.12 | dandate2 | awesome i think this should only cost 1 hour heh |
| 07:12.03 | dandate2 | lately i've been dividing up the DID to 2 seperate pbx and staying up 24 hours a day monitoring the call volume |
| 07:14.24 | drmessano | Ah, you got a Dell Optiplex AND a netbook PBX? |
| 07:14.32 | drmessano | sweet |
| 07:14.51 | dandate2 | we got a dual core xeon u server |
| 07:15.05 | dandate2 | but its located in the phillipines on some crappy internet |
| 07:15.38 | dandate2 | what i told the bank anyway was a white-lie, because they wouldn't understand that the lenovo was not HCL so i needed to return it, i told em it wouldn't power on |
| 07:17.17 | denon | hm, I realize I'm only catching the tail end of this .. |
| 07:17.27 | denon | but how is it the bank or merchant's fault that you didn't check the HCL before buying? |
| 07:17.47 | dandate2 | well the merchant wouldn't let me return or exchange |
| 07:17.57 | denon | was it a non-returnable item? |
| 07:18.00 | dandate2 | and i got stuck with a lenovo that wouldn't work as a pbx, but when i purchased it i didn't know what HCL was |
| 07:18.18 | denon | oic, so they should be responsible for your lack of knowledge |
| 07:18.28 | dandate2 | the sales rep told me it would work |
| 07:18.34 | dandate2 | but he didn't erally know either |
| 07:18.35 | denon | I bought this car.. and it wouldnt pull my freight train |
| 07:18.42 | denon | so I did a chargeback on the car |
| 07:18.57 | drmessano | He's leaving off the part where he bragged about getting it from Circuit City's liquidators.. and that they wouldn't accept a return, so he could get a chargeback AND keep the machine |
| 07:19.03 | dandate2 | well if the sales rep told u it would pull a freighter u might have a case |
| 07:19.09 | KyleK | HCL? |
| 07:19.17 | denon | hardware compatibility list |
| 07:19.19 | dandate2 | hardware compatibl |
| 07:19.30 | denon | dandate2: see, I've been on the other side of chargebacks like this |
| 07:19.38 | denon | and the fraud infuriates me to the point of .. well .. anger. |
| 07:20.22 | denon | circuit city liquidators should make everyone sign a form, "I Agree to take responsibility for my own decisions" |
| 07:20.23 | dandate2 | well u know if a client tries to return something the same day they bought it or at least get an exchange they should honor that |
| 07:20.38 | denon | then you should buy from walmart |
| 07:20.47 | denon | their return policy is designed for that type of indecision |
| 07:20.49 | drmessano | He knew exactly what he was doing |
| 07:20.59 | dandate2 | lol he knew exactly what he was doing |
| 07:21.08 | dandate2 | nooo i really didn't heh |
| 07:21.22 | drmessano | Dude, you BRAGGED ABOUT IT.. you were in #freepbx, drunk on a sat night, and told us all about it |
| 07:21.24 | denon | drmessano: well, I find that hard to believe, since it sounds like he has issues with his shoelaces |
| 07:21.27 | drmessano | Then lied the next day |
| 07:21.40 | dandate2 | i dno about bragging |
| 07:21.54 | drmessano | .... |
| 07:22.08 | dandate2 | you were hella grilling me on it so i explained my case |
| 07:22.11 | denon | dandate2: so .. did you keep that computer, and do the chargeback? |
| 07:22.28 | dandate2 | yeah they wouldn't take the computer back so i kept it, but the chargeback got reversed anyway so i paid for it |
| 07:22.38 | denon | snickers |
| 07:23.08 | denon | that's a nice story .. CC liquidators didn't have to pay the $20 chargeback fee, and you got a bad mark on your CC profile |
| 07:23.10 | dandate2 | now its just a workstation for the women |
| 07:23.11 | denon | all's well ends well |
| 07:25.43 | dandate2 | still some punk ass ToS tho |
| 07:26.07 | denon | so shop at walmart :) |
| 07:26.16 | denon | or sams or worst buy or somethin |
| 07:26.37 | dandate2 | haha right, i learned about that hcl i been building my own machines lately |
| 07:27.29 | denon | how is buying the motherboard without the case any different? |
| 07:27.41 | denon | if you do your research, you know exactly what's in the system prior to buying it |
| 07:28.05 | dandate2 | well in the case of the lenovo it was the network card that wasn't allowing the install |
| 07:28.13 | denon | eh |
| 07:28.28 | denon | so it had a network card that needs a kernel module loaded |
| 07:28.32 | denon | 10 minutes of effort |
| 07:28.36 | dandate2 | or i tried 2 different things actually, the vmware hyper-virtualization woudln't isntall because of the network card |
| 07:28.46 | dandate2 | and piaf would install but asterisk would not start |
| 07:28.50 | dandate2 | i assume because of the network card also heh |
| 07:29.27 | dandate2 | so i think the lenovo had incorrect labling, they should have stated winblows only on the tag |
| 07:29.35 | denon | well, you could throw a $20 intel gig-e card in it |
| 07:29.50 | denon | or you could just use the correct module |
| 07:30.08 | dandate2 | yeah but i didn't know about the HCL yet |
| 07:30.09 | denon | it's not a windows-only nic |
| 07:30.14 | drmessano | Ah yeah |
| 07:30.16 | dandate2 | thats how i found out about the HCL |
| 07:30.19 | denon | nobody makes such a thing, they all use broadcom/realtek/intel/etc |
| 07:30.19 | dandate2 | heh |
| 07:30.51 | drmessano | He tried to install VMWARE ESXi on it |
| 07:30.59 | drmessano | classic |
| 07:31.18 | dandate2 | always a learning experience heh |
| 07:32.52 | denon | ah well |
| 07:32.57 | denon | stay sober next time you learn :) |
| 07:33.08 | dandate2 | ah serious i don't drink anymore honestly |
| 07:35.08 | denon | dandate2: so I've got a friend that's in a bad spot .. |
| 07:35.13 | denon | they're about to forclose on his house |
| 07:35.17 | denon | you have any suggestions? |
| 07:36.00 | dandate2 | yeah |
| 07:36.04 | dandate2 | heres what you do |
| 07:36.14 | dandate2 | make a small payment on his default, like 30-90 days |
| 07:36.22 | dandate2 | to stop the foreclosure |
| 07:36.28 | dandate2 | then have him transfer the title of ownership to you |
| 07:36.36 | dandate2 | and continue paying onto his loan until you find another buyer for the house |
| 07:36.41 | dandate2 | or rent it out |
| 07:36.50 | denon | well .. this guy came to my door |
| 07:37.15 | denon | and sold me a packet of stuff talking about this |
| 07:37.15 | dandate2 | holy shit man outside sales reps for my product |
| 07:37.15 | dandate2 | i been looking for that |
| 07:37.17 | dandate2 | we only do it over the phones right now heh |
| 07:37.26 | denon | he said after I get going, I should move to the phillipines |
| 07:37.28 | denon | and save on taxes |
| 07:37.38 | dandate2 | ahh de ja vu |
| 07:38.03 | dandate2 | yeah you can sell the house to someone else for a discount off the market value, take the money and run while you default on the other persons loan |
| 07:38.24 | *** join/#asterisk mumtazah (n=mumtazah@124.82.76.14) |
| 07:38.26 | dandate2 | but the honest thing to do is rent it out |
| 07:38.39 | denon | yeah - he also said that this thing would work as a server |
| 07:38.41 | denon | but it doesnt |
| 07:38.46 | dandate2 | lol |
| 07:38.47 | denon | Im gonna chargeback the packet |
| 07:38.54 | dandate2 | haha |
| 07:38.57 | dandate2 | people chargeback my packet |
| 07:39.02 | denon | http://instantrimshot.com |
| 07:39.20 | dandate2 | but someone whose smart can actually own the house without credit check and only 30-90days move in payment |
| 07:39.48 | dandate2 | and get an $8,000 tax credit for purchasing foreclosure property |
| 07:39.48 | denon | sorry dandate2, there was no packet .. I was just fishing to see if you really were a dishonest sorta business guy :) |
| 07:39.55 | denon | thanks for filling in the blanks |
| 07:40.00 | dandate2 | well yes and no |
| 07:40.06 | dandate2 | if you use my product then its worth while |
| 07:40.08 | dandate2 | if not then you just paid me |
| 07:40.18 | drmessano | You move in, install Asterisk, call it AT&T sell service to everyone in the neighborhood, let it run for 30 days, fdisk the box, and move to Nicaragua |
| 07:40.21 | dandate2 | i just provide the info , i'm not the realtor |
| 07:40.24 | denon | never seen your product |
| 07:40.39 | denon | just got a little insider information |
| 07:40.44 | dandate2 | oh word |
| 07:40.48 | dandate2 | yeah we sell an e-book |
| 07:40.49 | drmessano | Then, sell the house to midgets |
| 07:40.55 | dandate2 | on how to buy a foerclosure house by paying ont othe original persons loan |
| 07:41.02 | drmessano | and since they cant reach the doorhandles, they cant move in |
| 07:41.09 | drmessano | So they foreclose |
| 07:41.10 | dandate2 | and we sell it for 1/5th the price of our competitors which i think is pretty damn honest |
| 07:41.14 | drmessano | You buy it back AGAIN |
| 07:41.54 | dandate2 | drmessano your pretty funny |
| 07:41.54 | denon | TINY CLASSIFIED ADS! |
| 07:41.54 | denon | [you're] |
| 07:42.04 | denon | does his tony robinson immitation about TINY CLASSIFIED ADS! |
| 07:42.06 | dandate2 | if you follow through with the program its a win-win-win situation |
| 07:42.08 | drmessano | Six months ago, I was living out of my car, and painting houses for a living |
| 07:42.24 | denon | [in the winter] |
| 07:42.27 | drmessano | Now, I make 7 million dollars a week |
| 07:42.38 | denon | painting houses in the snow .. |
| 07:42.39 | drmessano | How do I do it? |
| 07:42.41 | dandate2 | the new owner gets the house for some deliquency payments and doesnt apply for a loan, the old owner gets good credit from having his loan paid off and doesn't suffer IRS repercussions of short sale, and the bank gets paid |
| 07:42.45 | drmessano | TINY CLASSIFIED ADS |
| 07:43.03 | drmessano | That brings back so many memories |
| 07:43.08 | drmessano | Don Laprie? |
| 07:43.15 | denon | was it really only 7 million a week? |
| 07:43.17 | dandate2 | and if the home was more than 50% paid off the new owner will offer to pay the old owner extra cash when the loan is paid off for the equity |
| 07:43.18 | denon | I thought it was more |
| 07:43.44 | denon | hardly worth it for $7M/wk |
| 07:43.50 | drmessano | In 1990 Lapre and his wife, whom he married in 1988, started a credit repair business called Unknown Concepts. Lapre then began selling a 36-page booklet explaining how to recover a Federal Home Association insurance refund after paying off a home mortgage. He also began offering "900" phone lines. |
| 07:44.16 | dandate2 | oh no thats a scam |
| 07:44.16 | dandate2 | my e-book is only 2 pages |
| 07:44.18 | dandate2 | "The 5 step guide to owning a home" |
| 07:44.19 | dandate2 | lol |
| 07:44.19 | drmessano | dandate2: Do you have "900" phone lines? |
| 07:44.24 | dandate2 | oh hell no |
| 07:44.28 | dandate2 | we got an 866 for customer support |
| 07:44.30 | drmessano | Then you suck |
| 07:44.32 | dandate2 | and local dids for your area |
| 07:44.33 | denon | that's a lotta phone lines |
| 07:45.05 | drmessano | He's gonna need a DS3000P |
| 07:45.11 | drmessano | Is there one laying around? |
| 07:45.17 | denon | there will be |
| 07:45.21 | denon | TINY CLASSIFIED ADS |
| 07:45.53 | denon | Wanted: A fool who will easily be parted from his money. |
| 07:46.04 | dandate2 | ah thats me |
| 07:46.09 | dandate2 | with the lenovo ahahaha |
| 07:46.13 | denon | dandate2: paypal me $50 please |
| 07:46.15 | *** join/#asterisk retentiveboy (n=pdugas@74-95-28-37-Atlanta.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 07:46.18 | denon | and I will stop making fun of you |
| 07:46.20 | dandate2 | and kayak.freepbx.org |
| 07:46.21 | denon | that's a bargain, really |
| 07:46.41 | dandate2 | paying them $150 to upload some sound files to my /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3 directory |
| 07:46.43 | denon | $200 extra and I'll nicely ask drmessano to cut you some slack |
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| 07:46.53 | drmessano | Send me money, and I will tell you exactly how I made you send me money.. |
| 07:47.07 | denon | this sounds like something out of a dilber |
| 07:47.10 | denon | dilbert |
| 07:47.53 | dandate2 | yall don't need to hate, just descriminate |
| 07:47.58 | drmessano | I wish he was just a troll so he could admonished and dismissed. But sadly, he's real, and I feel sorry for him |
| 07:48.18 | drmessano | ONE CALL, THATS ALL |
| 07:48.29 | denon | dandate2: you need a 900# |
| 07:48.35 | denon | I don't see any other way you'll be successful |
| 07:48.47 | dandate2 | well we charge recurring billing for access to our 866 customer support |
| 07:48.52 | dandate2 | thats where we make our money actually |
| 07:49.33 | drmessano | "make" being a term used loosely |
| 07:49.48 | drmessano | Since the idea is to never have anyone call, right? |
| 07:50.01 | dandate2 | cuz i pay commissions off the initial sale but recurring billing is money in the bank regardless if you utilized it |
| 07:50.14 | dandate2 | oh no its "automatic" recurring billing |
| 07:50.48 | dandate2 | $13.71 / mo for credit card subscriptions, and $40/mo for checking accounts |
| 07:51.52 | dandate2 | the sales reps only take checking accounts by phone and if they only have a CC to use we have em sign up online through paypal |
| 07:52.24 | drmessano | You could always get the Skype For Asterisk application and force those bastards that buy your product to use SKYPE to call you.. you could then drop some of your incoming lines |
| 07:53.51 | drmessano | Make them use the SkypeME button on your website, then set up Apache to only load the homepage every 5th time, so even if they do try to call, they'll think their computer is shit, and forget it |
| 07:54.11 | drmessano | You ca get rid of some of your agents then |
| 07:54.13 | dandate2 | haha good thinking |
| 07:54.15 | drmessano | Mo Money |
| 07:54.22 | dandate2 | my DID is only $8/mo each tho |
| 07:54.24 | drmessano | $$$$$$ |
| 07:54.26 | dandate2 | for unlimmited minutes |
| 07:54.45 | dandate2 | so i just got one for all the major cities |
| 07:54.56 | dandate2 | san francisco, los angeles, orange county, san diego, new york, chicago, DC |
| 07:54.59 | drmessano | So drop some of those indian calltakers and an $8 line, make em Skype you |
| 07:55.10 | dandate2 | haha |
| 07:55.24 | dandate2 | i'm afraid the paypal chargebacks might get high as old ms lopez can't figure out how to download skype |
| 07:55.37 | dandate2 | just as i couldnt' figuerout the HCL hah |
| 07:55.42 | drmessano | [03:54] <drmessano> Make them use the SkypeME button on your website, then set up Apache to only load the homepage every 5th time, so even if they do try to call, they'll think their computer is shit, and forget it |
| 07:56.01 | dandate2 | lol |
| 07:56.09 | dandate2 | chargebacks |
| 07:56.11 | drmessano | Put the button on the website that loads the flash application in the browser |
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| 07:56.28 | dandate2 | oh 1/10 people will get that one working |
| 07:56.29 | drmessano | Ok, 3 our of 5 |
| 07:56.36 | drmessano | out* |
| 07:56.50 | dandate2 | naw we want them to call in because we have a badass recording that resells them on the program |
| 07:57.01 | drmessano | Ah good thinking |
| 07:57.05 | dandate2 | we got this hustling young black man explaining hte program over a hit symphony by beethoven |
| 07:57.15 | dandate2 | its magic heh |
| 07:57.20 | denon | dandate2: you've gotta be trolling |
| 07:57.23 | denon | this can't be for real |
| 07:57.37 | drmessano | Give us the link |
| 07:57.41 | drmessano | Sadly, it is |
| 07:57.42 | dandate2 | newlineequity.com |
| 07:59.13 | drmessano | Helping theEconomy |
| 07:59.16 | drmessano | Space FAIL |
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| 07:59.34 | dandate2 | theres a typo? |
| 07:59.37 | denon | hmm |
| 07:59.49 | denon | Im too lazy to forge a null ANI to call your 866 and hear the recording |
| 07:59.49 | drmessano | tell that guy that designed your website that you made the chargeback on, that he has a typo |
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| 08:00.42 | dandate2 | 866-956-3051 |
| 08:01.07 | denon | yeah, I see the number |
| 08:01.08 | drmessano | I bet when his mom gave him the wrong GI Joe figures for Xmas, he demanded a chargeback |
| 08:01.16 | denon | http://dilbert.com/2009-08-22/ |
| 08:01.23 | denon | that seems applicable at the moment |
| 08:01.32 | dandate2 | damn i see the space fail |
| 08:01.36 | dandate2 | thanks for pointing that out |
| 08:01.56 | drmessano | Oh, dont thank me yet |
| 08:02.12 | dandate2 | i'm going to file a chargeback against the web developer now... |
| 08:02.15 | dandate2 | lol kidding |
| 08:02.35 | drmessano | I just emailed you a bill for $2000, for which I already submitted a fraud report to my bank, postdated |
| 08:02.41 | drmessano | See you in hell, Bueller |
| 08:03.12 | dandate2 | whats next collections? |
| 08:03.33 | dandate2 | credit score means nothing to me though i could care less about merchant processing |
| 08:03.43 | dandate2 | we take checks |
| 08:03.49 | drmessano | No, I cant use any of the available collection firms.. they wont call the phillipines |
| 08:03.52 | dandate2 | paypal don't care about my debts heh |
| 08:03.58 | drmessano | But the good news is, I have some friends in Tunis |
| 08:04.36 | dandate2 | its kind of sad how quickly you can get cought in with collections and never get out till paid in full |
| 08:04.42 | drmessano | They're not big on technicalities... They want cash and arrows showing them where to aim |
| 08:04.54 | dandate2 | cox cable billed me at 2 locations when i transfered service, i filed a chargeback with them and was told "we have substantial proof you placed this order" |
| 08:04.55 | dandate2 | lol |
| 08:05.12 | drmessano | pwn3d |
| 08:05.15 | dandate2 | heh |
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| 08:05.35 | drmessano | Not fraudulent, at all |
| 08:05.44 | dandate2 | oh chargeback complaints aren't even read |
| 08:05.52 | dandate2 | the vender just gets a letter in the mailk |
| 08:05.58 | dandate2 | and if they respond to it the chargeback is reversed |
| 08:05.59 | dandate2 | its all automatic |
| 08:06.13 | drmessano | They read them in court.. right after the opening statements |
| 08:06.18 | dandate2 | but the banks love chargebacks because they make 300% profit off their fees, and then debit your account by surprise when its reversed and hope to overdraft you |
| 08:06.43 | drmessano | Ah |
| 08:06.53 | drmessano | THEN, you file a chargeback against the bank itself |
| 08:07.18 | drmessano | saw this infomercial too |
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| 08:08.55 | dandate2 | lol like thast possible |
| 08:08.58 | dandate2 | u have to take them to court |
| 08:09.57 | phix | denon: heh |
| 08:10.29 | drmessano | files a chargeback with Digium for Asterisk 1.4.17 |
| 08:11.30 | dandate2 | haha that was free tho |
| 08:11.36 | dandate2 | u better file a class action lawsuit |
| 08:11.43 | drmessano | Free? |
| 08:11.49 | drmessano | Open source software is not free |
| 08:12.02 | phix | http://dilbert.com/2009-08-30/ |
| 08:12.31 | dandate2 | gmail disabled one of my email accounts i think i'm going to sue them for tampering of mail |
| 08:13.04 | dandate2 | destruction of a mail bocx |
| 08:13.06 | drmessano | Good luck with that.. Maybe your body will float to the top during the spring thaw |
| 08:14.07 | dandate2 | i just signed a contract with comcast 2 days ago and it was sent through email so i think if the judge realizes that email is now the modern mail then disabling email accounts is a felony offense |
| 08:15.01 | drmessano | But there's no SLA for free google accounts, so they could claim an extended downtime |
| 08:15.20 | drmessano | File a chargeback against you for using their bandwidth |
| 08:15.30 | dandate2 | haha mabye so |
| 08:15.52 | drmessano | I tell you what though |
| 08:15.57 | drmessano | When google is down |
| 08:16.13 | drmessano | and you have Google Apps premiere edition |
| 08:16.19 | drmessano | with an SLA |
| 08:16.30 | drmessano | Its hard as shit to google for their support number |
| 08:17.14 | drmessano | recursive fail |
| 08:17.31 | dandate2 | oh thats brilliant, so i'll build an esxi server in the ukraine and have it direct thousands of botnets to create a denial of service attack against google just so i can file a chargeback |
| 08:18.16 | dandate2 | i'll call my bank and be like wtf i paid for google, i can't access google. |
| 08:19.35 | drmessano | Then file a chargeback on the botnet when that doesnt work, and when the russian mafia cuts you into 1cm squares and feeds you to the gorillas at the zoo |
| 08:19.57 | drmessano | Lotsa LULZ? |
| 08:20.46 | dandate2 | ah the botnets guys only take western union or webmoney theres no chargeback there heh |
| 08:20.56 | dandate2 | imma have to pay 50 ukranians $300 each |
| 08:21.04 | dandate2 | so i can file an $80 chargeback against google |
| 08:21.21 | dandate2 | sounds like realistic court expenses to me |
| 08:21.24 | dandate2 | nbetter just go after em on the mail box |
| 08:21.54 | drmessano | good luck with that |
| 08:22.16 | dandate2 | or no i have a btter plan |
| 08:22.24 | dandate2 | gmail now requires sms verification to log into your email box sometimes |
| 08:22.35 | dandate2 | so u can't even check ur email unless u have a cell phone handy |
| 08:22.40 | dandate2 | now thats tampering of a mail box heh |
| 08:23.15 | drmessano | They do? |
| 08:23.20 | dandate2 | yeah that happened last week |
| 08:23.31 | dandate2 | if they think your a spammer or receiving too much craigslist emails they make u SMS |
| 08:24.43 | denon | wonders why dandate2's the only one in the room who's ever had this happen |
| 08:24.50 | dandate2 | lol |
| 08:25.05 | dandate2 | it'l happen one day |
| 08:25.13 | dandate2 | when america degrades to the situation of palestine |
| 08:25.13 | denon | just get a job man :) |
| 08:25.16 | denon | a nice 9-5 |
| 08:25.22 | denon | it'll keep you honest |
| 08:25.24 | dandate2 | everyone will SMS to check their email |
| 08:25.35 | dandate2 | i worked a 9-5 for a diff company doing the same thing |
| 08:25.41 | dandate2 | but they wouldn't let me work from home |
| 08:25.46 | dandate2 | so i started my own company doing the same thing |
| 08:25.53 | dandate2 | and to be honest that did make me a little dishonest |
| 08:26.16 | dandate2 | or a little more ruthless anyway when i learned about the ins and outs of merchant processing |
| 08:26.37 | denon | the fact that you violated your non-compete and stole your previous employer's intellectual property? |
| 08:26.53 | dandate2 | there was no non-compete tho heh |
| 08:27.05 | dandate2 | but thats what he gets for not letting me work from home, i was his best sales person |
| 08:27.17 | dandate2 | and i think in an ancient timeframe of apprenticeship |
| 08:27.48 | dandate2 | you serve the blacksmith for so long just to become one yourself |
| 08:27.58 | dandate2 | and you don't pay the blacksmith that tought you dividends your whole life now do u heh |
| 08:28.27 | denon | not sure you should compare cheating people out of their houses to making horseshoes :) |
| 08:28.36 | dandate2 | cheating people out of their houses lol |
| 08:28.38 | dandate2 | nooooo |
| 08:28.43 | dandate2 | the homeowners in foreclosure have no choice |
| 08:28.51 | dandate2 | its better for them to give the ownership to someone else who will pay the loan |
| 08:29.00 | dandate2 | and if the person stops paying the loan they can take the title back |
| 08:29.55 | denon | hmm |
| 08:30.11 | denon | I should buy a house .. let it foreclose, but first get a ton of other liens on the property |
| 08:30.12 | drmessano | dandate2: Its SMS to CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT |
| 08:30.24 | denon | then let one of your guys steal it |
| 08:30.27 | drmessano | dandate2: and SMS is now a PASSWORD RECOVERY OPTION |
| 08:30.36 | drmessano | dandate2: Not to CHECK YOUR MAIL |
| 08:30.39 | dandate2 | no no |
| 08:30.46 | dandate2 | theres SMS to create an account yes |
| 08:30.56 | denon | that'd be kinda fun, they think they're gettin it for a song .. |
| 08:30.58 | dandate2 | but there are SMS verifications to log in now too |
| 08:31.05 | drmessano | .... |
| 08:31.06 | denon | and they're too dumb to check for liens first |
| 08:31.09 | dandate2 | but not for average user accounts, only heavy use |
| 08:31.17 | drmessano | dandate2: Bullshit |
| 08:32.22 | denon | welp |
| 08:32.24 | denon | im goin home |
| 08:32.36 | denon | nobody in their right mind should be at the office at 3am |
| 08:32.42 | denon | and yet, here I am |
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| 08:33.26 | drmessano | later denon |
| 08:33.29 | denon | cya |
| 08:33.35 | drmessano | I need to SMS google so i can sign in |
| 08:33.38 | denon | be kind rewind |
| 08:33.39 | drmessano | :( |
| 08:33.39 | denon | or somethin |
| 08:35.25 | dandate2 | http://pastebin.ca/1564002 |
| 08:35.30 | dandate2 | theres something about SMS locked accounts |
| 08:36.46 | dandate2 | we do a title search to make sure there aer no back taxes liens or judgements on the property |
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| 08:37.20 | drmessano | LOL |
| 08:37.29 | drmessano | Christ |
| 08:37.47 | drmessano | Let me spell that out for you |
| 08:38.51 | drmessano | I want a couple thousand GMAIL accounts to use for <insert purpose here>.. So I sign up, and they request SMS verfication.. "Oh, here is a little sploit to get past that" |
| 08:38.58 | drmessano | Thats what they are talking about |
| 08:39.07 | dandate2 | yes there is sms to create an account i know |
| 08:39.09 | drmessano | Not Users being prompted at random to SMS to login |
| 08:39.12 | dandate2 | but the software i have is now patching against sms to log in also |
| 08:39.14 | dandate2 | Date: 9/8/2009 Build 985 (cagm) |
| 08:39.14 | dandate2 | [Feature] Disable GMail accounts that require SMS verification on login |
| 08:39.22 | drmessano | Dude, shut up and google the shit you pastebin'ed |
| 08:39.33 | drmessano | It takes you to a couple forum posts |
| 08:39.46 | drmessano | They're talking about exploiting thousands of google accounts |
| 08:39.46 | dandate2 | it just started happening on the 8th |
| 08:40.01 | dandate2 | before they would just make you type a captcha to log in |
| 08:40.07 | dandate2 | but now they will require an SMS |
| 08:40.11 | drmessano | NEW ACCOUNTS |
| 08:40.18 | dandate2 | already created accounts too |
| 08:40.23 | drmessano | No |
| 08:40.45 | dandate2 | otherwise this program cladgenius would not need to disable accounts that require SMS verification on login, because it creates the accounts and does not store failed creations |
| 08:41.40 | drmessano | and? |
| 08:41.59 | dandate2 | its very new google is goign to crush the masses like the new bolshevics |
| 08:42.22 | drmessano | For new accounts |
| 08:42.24 | dandate2 | pretty soon google reps gunna walk into your house and shoot you in the back of the head and then buy your house with my program forging your signature |
| 08:42.33 | drmessano | They require SMS |
| 08:42.47 | dandate2 | yes i know but they will require SMS for login too, i'll send u an example sometime soon |
| 08:42.59 | dandate2 | of a user:pass that can't be logged into without sms |
| 08:43.05 | drmessano | Dont need one |
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| 09:56.43 | dandate2 | how to tell which file to get from http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/sounds/ ? |
| 10:02.27 | tzafrir_laptop | If there's no disk space issues, get the .wav ones |
| 10:03.05 | tzafrir_laptop | If you also make g722 (or otherwise wide-band) calls, get (also? just?) the g722 ones |
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| 10:05.34 | dandate2 | damn all this music sucks though |
| 10:05.57 | dandate2 | is there anyway i can take the .wav files i'm using now and convert them to ulaw ? |
| 10:11.27 | dandate2 | ok i found that, will piaf beable to play .au files for moh? |
| 10:16.50 | dandate2 | it says upload a .wav or .mp3 file .. |
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| 10:47.15 | dandate2 | my trunks are set to ulaw,alaw but my extentions are set to g729, if i set my trunks to g729 will this save processing power of converting ulaw to g729? my trunk providers said they allow g729. thanks |
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| 12:36.09 | necro\ | is there a place in a config file somewhere that lets me set voicemail file creation permissions custom? |
| 12:36.14 | necro\ | i would like 770777 |
| 12:36.18 | necro\ | i would like 770 / 777 |
| 12:36.24 | necro\ | ty in advance |
| 12:38.30 | SLCarrijo | hi.. I'd like to ask for some information. Besides FOP or FOP2, does anybody knows a different software ? |
| 12:40.22 | tzafrir_laptop | necro\, look for umask |
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| 13:37.09 | phix | hihihihihihihihihi |
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| 13:42.58 | dandate2 | any freepbx support reps on yet? been refreshing my email every 30 seconds here! |
| 13:44.26 | cosmicwombat | dandate2: what is up ? |
| 13:45.16 | cosmicwombat | dandate2: do you have a ticket in or ? |
| 13:46.33 | dandate2 | yes |
| 13:46.35 | dandate2 | already made a ticket |
| 13:46.52 | dandate2 | gotta get this straightened out before the queue gets heavy, my cpu has been hitting 100% |
| 13:47.07 | dandate2 | because it is transcoding .wav to ulaw =( |
| 13:52.24 | dandate2 | TOY-668763 |
| 13:53.16 | cosmicwombat | Yes, reading through it. It is Sunday where you are too... Yes ? |
| 13:53.30 | dandate2 | yes is sunday night actually |
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| 13:53.46 | dandate2 | though i'm from san francisco, retired out here in the phillipines |
| 13:53.52 | dandate2 | and policing the call center agents in person heh |
| 14:01.03 | coppice | converting to and from ulaw takes very very little CPU power. |
| 14:02.31 | cosmicwombat | dandate2: taking a look around now |
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| 14:04.00 | dandate2 | we have about 80 channels in use at times tho |
| 14:04.11 | dandate2 | and the cpu maxes out at around 40 |
| 14:04.21 | dandate2 | so i need everything to be as clean as possible |
| 14:04.49 | coppice | even a low end CPU can do thousands of ulaw conversions |
| 14:04.55 | dandate2 | k |
| 14:05.13 | dandate2 | if i set my trunk to g729 only that just requires the did provider to do the conversion right? |
| 14:05.42 | dandate2 | we have the pbx in a home office that is serving call centers in the phillipines and other parts of the united states |
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| 14:23.40 | hesco | Testing this application I'm building filled my voicemail. Not having time to manually check and delete the voicemail, I used a `mv /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/21/INBOX /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/21/SAVED3`to empty things out so I could keep moving. (I've done this before, can you tell?) |
| 14:25.24 | hesco | Now, though, with only three messages in the recently emptied INBOX, folks calling me are being shunted to voicemail on the second ring and being told that my voicemail is full. What am I missing here? Had I done this manually, what else would have happened other than moving those audio and text files out of INBOX? |
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| 14:44.31 | hesco | morning |
| 14:45.14 | hesco | [TK]D-Fender: perhaps you'd know what I did to break my voicemail . . . |
| 14:45.18 | hesco | Testing this application I'm building filled my voicemail. Not having time to manually check and delete the voicemail, I used a `mv /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/21/INBOX /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/21/SAVED3`to empty things out so I could keep moving. (I've done this before, can you tell?) |
| 14:45.22 | hesco | Now, though, with only three messages in the recently emptied INBOX, folks calling me are being shunted to voicemail on the second ring and being told that my voicemail is full. What am I missing here? Had I done this manually, what else would have happened other than moving those audio and text files out of INBOX? |
| 14:50.51 | [TK]D-Fender | hesco: Second ring? Ringing a device has nothing to do with it falling to voicemail |
| 14:52.09 | hesco | perhaps not, but why are folks getting a full vm message when INBOX has only three messages? |
| 14:53.12 | [TK]D-Fender | hesco: I don't see you showing me anything useful |
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| 14:55.41 | hesco | an empty (only three messages) inbox is being reported as full |
| 14:56.03 | knarfly | anyone have experience with GS GXP-2000 voip phones |
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| 15:03.30 | [TK]D-Fender | is off for a while |
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| 15:11.17 | garymc | hi Guys just called down to the office to open the correct ports on my BT router |
| 15:11.42 | garymc | Ive opened them what is the best way to test them as iam in the office and dont know if it works or not? |
| 15:11.47 | garymc | udp 5060 |
| 15:11.53 | garymc | udp 10000-20000 |
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| 15:24.42 | geneticx | garymc: you have remote access to a box where the BT router is? |
| 15:29.12 | garymc | geneticx : yes |
| 15:29.24 | garymc | Im at the office and i have opened those ports |
| 15:29.35 | garymc | Anyone wanna test a zoiper soft phone for me? |
| 15:30.02 | geneticx | garymc: Why don't you install xlite at the remote box, configure an extension, and then make a call to your office? |
| 15:30.27 | garymc | im in the office you see |
| 15:30.49 | garymc | i just wanna test it now, trying to get hold of freinds to test for me but they are all out having fun |
| 15:30.59 | garymc | geneticx do you have zoiper? |
| 15:31.14 | geneticx | no |
| 15:31.26 | garymc | you wanna get it ? its only 4mb big |
| 15:31.35 | geneticx | lol..no. |
| 15:31.42 | garymc | will you test an extension on my server for me? |
| 15:33.47 | dranach | garymc : i have a zoiper running on a test machine |
| 15:34.15 | dranach | if you can give me some sip account options, i'll try and make a connection |
| 15:35.19 | asif | hey anyone has a link to Leif Madsen's presentation "Unusual Uses: What you didn't know your Asterisk system could do!"? |
| 15:35.43 | drmessano | garymc: Set up Xlite to use the OUTSIDE interface |
| 15:36.14 | coppice | asif: asterisk will BBQ steaks, if you run it on Pentium 4 |
| 15:36.54 | asif | coppice, lol! |
| 15:36.55 | asif | :) |
| 15:38.27 | asif | It was here, but no more - http://www.it360.ca/pdfs/Presentations/LeifMadsen_Asterisk.pdf |
| 15:40.13 | drmessano | I think it was deprected when the uses became more common |
| 15:40.20 | drmessano | deprecated |
| 15:40.26 | asif | Hmm possibly. |
| 15:40.29 | asif | If anyone knows where I can find the presentation please post a link. |
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| 16:41.21 | KavanS | does anyone have experience with cell based agents? |
| 16:41.35 | KavanS | i.e. instead of a local extension, I need to dial an external number for an agent |
| 16:42.10 | dandate2 | sure but your reliant on your outbound carrier and your did carrier |
| 16:42.30 | dandate2 | so if one of the two is flaking your agent is hurting |
| 16:50.02 | KavanS | dandate2, yeah was thinking of that too...maybe I should write a macro to do all of this, so I can have a little more control |
| 16:53.12 | drmessano | You dont have control, thats the problem |
| 16:53.28 | KavanS | drmessano, yeah, I wanted to use cell phones as a backup for primary extensions... |
| 16:53.40 | KavanS | if someone doesn't answer a primary extension, hit up a cell phone |
| 16:53.47 | KavanS | but maybe i need to read more to understand how queues/agents work |
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| 17:04.22 | wonderworld | !sip |
| 17:04.46 | seanbright | ~sip |
| 17:04.47 | infobot | somebody said sip was http://www.cs.columbia.edu/sip/ X11 PPP dialer interface written in gtk+. URL: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/3104/sip/ Session Initiation Protocol (see RFC 3261) |
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| 17:10.50 | scalex000 | Hi everyone |
| 17:12.26 | scalex000 | I have a doubt, Can I use any analog phone on asterisk? |
| 17:12.53 | dandate2 | kavans you need to have your cell phone agent hit dnd on his x-lite when hes not taking calls |
| 17:13.03 | dandate2 | minus well just use the x-lite |
| 17:14.01 | dandate2 | but i think if ur a hardcore cell tech u can configure the cell phone to connect to your pbx like x-lite does |
| 17:14.12 | dandate2 | correct me if i'm wrong |
| 17:14.54 | dandate2 | nm i'm hella wrong |
| 17:14.59 | drmessano | youre wrong |
| 17:15.16 | drmessano | chargeback |
| 17:15.39 | dandate2 | lol |
| 17:15.46 | dandate2 | i keep thinking if a cell can get internet service why not |
| 17:16.30 | dandate2 | but i imagine it would be as slow as dial up |
| 17:16.43 | dandate2 | just wait for ipod to come out with broadband internet service and see |
| 17:17.20 | drmessano | You can use an iPod touch + SIP application to connect to asterisk |
| 17:17.53 | dandate2 | that might be more reliable than relying on inbound and outbound trunks |
| 17:18.41 | drmessano | huh? |
| 17:18.58 | scalex000 | hello, yesterday I try to test my asterisk, with Panasonic KX-T7030 but my phone not turn on, I not get the dial tone, it like a dead phone, do you know if compatible with asterisk |
| 17:19.36 | drmessano | It's an analog phone |
| 17:19.43 | drmessano | What do you have it plugged into? |
| 17:19.48 | dandate2 | i myself tried forwarding an extention to a cell phone and calling the did to reach the cell and it was alright sometimes othertimes 8 second delay heh |
| 17:20.15 | scalex000 | drmessano: its suppose to be analog phone |
| 17:20.57 | dandate2 | is it plugged into a voip router? |
| 17:20.57 | drmessano | Forwarding to cell isnt a problem.. The issue is making them an integral part of a queue, which implies some logic vs "throwing the phone out the window and hoping someone catches it" |
| 17:21.05 | drmessano | scalex000: WHAT IS IT PLUGGED INTO? |
| 17:21.18 | scalex000 | drmessano: this panasonic model use 3 pairs |
| 17:21.28 | drmessano | I dont care what it uses |
| 17:21.30 | Naikrovek | what is it plugged into |
| 17:21.31 | drmessano | scalex000: WHAT IS IT PLUGGED INTO? |
| 17:21.57 | dandate2 | so install vnc client on that ipod and hit dnd on xlite when not taking calls heh |
| 17:22.09 | drmessano | If you have an RJ45 crimped on the end and have it plugged into your switch, its not gonna work.. |
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| 17:22.24 | drmessano | We can only guess now since you refuse to tell us anything |
| 17:22.35 | scalex000 | drmessano: I do not understand, I have a Sangoma A400, I plugged this model of panasonic hybrid phone KX-T7030 |
| 17:23.00 | drmessano | So its pluuged into a SANGOMA A400???? |
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| 17:23.07 | drmessano | YES/NO/YES? |
| 17:23.26 | scalex000 | drmessano I use a Amphenol Cable with a Digium 24 rj11 port |
| 17:23.55 | drmessano | .... |
| 17:24.02 | dandate2 | gunna tracert scalex heh |
| 17:24.08 | drmessano | scalex000: How does your phone connect to asterisk? |
| 17:24.25 | drmessano | scalex000: Stop throwing out random hardware descriptions |
| 17:24.31 | scalex000 | ok |
| 17:24.37 | drmessano | scalex000: Phone >>> ?????? >>> Asterisk |
| 17:25.06 | scalex000 | drmessano: Panasonic KX-7030 |
| 17:25.11 | dandate2 | too weird, scalex is also from tunisia africa, same as neooo |
| 17:25.32 | drmessano | scalex000: Go on |
| 17:26.14 | scalex000 | drmessano: I connect a standard analog phone and work. I want to know if those phone work with asterisk |
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| 17:26.56 | scalex000 | drmessano: I suppect those panasonic use more than one cable pair |
| 17:27.17 | drmessano | No your phone does NOT work with Asterisk.... Analog phones do NOT work with Asterisk.. Analog phones connected to some fucking piece of hardware that accepts connections to analog phones and interfaces with Asterisk DO WORK.. |
| 17:27.25 | riddlebox | panasonic kx.... phones are all two pair from what I remember |
| 17:27.32 | drmessano | But since you again refuse to give me details |
| 17:27.36 | drmessano | I have no idea |
| 17:27.41 | dandate2 | scalex get yourself a linksys pap2-na router |
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| 17:27.48 | voipmonk | work it drmessano |
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| 17:28.14 | dandate2 | that will plug into the same ethernet you got running to your pbx, assuming you got more than one port on your router, and allow you to take some calls over your analog phone |
| 17:29.08 | drmessano | scalex000: Your question is impossible to answer, and you're not giving any details |
| 17:29.10 | dandate2 | but i don't think you need to go thrugh all the trouble, here in the phillipines people just run a wire from any line thats passing through the neighborhood and get all their phone/internet/cable tv for free in their shanty lose the roof during a hurricane tiki huts |
| 17:29.12 | scalex000 | drmessano: so FXS not work |
| 17:29.22 | riddlebox | scalex000, what model phone, is it? |
| 17:29.25 | scalex000 | drmessano: :( |
| 17:29.28 | drmessano | scalex000: Throw your phone away |
| 17:29.47 | scalex000 | drmessano: yes I think they are too old. |
| 17:29.57 | scalex000 | riddlebox: kx-t7030 |
| 17:30.03 | drmessano | scalex000: You phone may work with an analog interface that's connected to asterisk, but I dont think you possess what it takes to connect them. So toss it. |
| 17:30.29 | dandate2 | oh he can just get a linksys pap2-na router |
| 17:30.43 | drmessano | Doubtful |
| 17:30.56 | riddlebox | scalex000, thanks to google, http://www.craigcommunications.net/panasonic-kxt-7030-phone.asp |
| 17:30.57 | dandate2 | ebay has banned his country mabye |
| 17:31.01 | drmessano | He cant tell me how he expects the phone to connect, or what he has, you want him to setup MORE hardware? |
| 17:31.19 | riddlebox | either way that phone is not analog |
| 17:32.51 | drmessano | scalex000: Asterisk is a piece of fucking SOFTWARE.. Your connections are IP PHONES, IP connection to channel banks which can connect to analog phones, or analog interface cards |
| 17:32.55 | riddlebox | scalex000, it will not work with asterisk at all, the best way to integrate that phone system is to either get a t1 card for asterisk and the panasonic, or use open trunks and an fxo card |
| 17:33.13 | drmessano | You need to provide info on what goes between the LEENUX and the PHONE |
| 17:33.41 | scalex000 | drmessano: I only want to know whether you use this model or someone use with asterisk, because, I have a FXS when i connect a standard phone work, but when I connect this panasonic not work. |
| 17:33.45 | drmessano | LEENUX >> SOMETHING(????) >> DAFONE |
| 17:34.00 | drmessano | Analog phones do not work with Asterisk |
| 17:34.07 | drmessano | Youre asking the WRONG question |
| 17:34.34 | scalex000 | ok |
| 17:34.39 | riddlebox | scalex000, look up |
| 17:34.43 | drmessano | Asterisk is SOFTWARE |
| 17:34.51 | drmessano | You need an INTERFACE to analog |
| 17:34.55 | drmessano | What is your INTERFACE? |
| 17:35.01 | scalex000 | drmessano: I have a interface |
| 17:35.06 | drmessano | WHAT IS IT???? |
| 17:35.17 | drmessano | [13:24] <drmessano> scalex000: How does your phone connect to asterisk? |
| 17:35.23 | scalex000 | drmessano: I know my english is terrible but, |
| 17:35.40 | scalex000 | drmessano: I bought a sangoma card with FXS, and FXO |
| 17:36.05 | drmessano | ok |
| 17:36.08 | riddlebox | scalex000, do you even see what I am typing.... I have told you |
| 17:36.13 | scalex000 | drmessano: I setup this interface with dahdi |
| 17:36.30 | scalex000 | riddlebox: hold on |
| 17:36.38 | scalex000 | riddlebox: I try to follow you |
| 17:36.44 | drmessano | Ohhhhh |
| 17:37.21 | drmessano | I get it |
| 17:37.33 | scalex000 | drmessano: sorry, I have a headeache |
| 17:37.53 | scalex000 | riddlebox: thanks, I got it. |
| 17:38.15 | Katty | ahhhh... mini vacation was /good/ |
| 17:38.23 | scalex000 | drmessano: those panasonic not work with asterisk by connect to interface |
| 17:38.33 | riddlebox | scalex000, you will use your fxo, to a an analog station on the panasonic |
| 17:38.34 | drmessano | scalex000: Me too now.. Not sure why you take 20 mins to answer simple questions from people trying to help you |
| 17:38.52 | drmessano | scalex000: No shit dude |
| 17:39.21 | riddlebox | from the panasonic you will call the station, (if you have an analog station open on the panasonic) |
| 17:39.38 | scalex000 | drmessano: sorry, my native language is not english |
| 17:41.05 | scalex000 | riddlebox: I not try to connect asterisk between panasonic, I will try to use those phone because I think they was a normal analog phone |
| 17:41.20 | riddlebox | they are not normal analog phones |
| 17:41.50 | drmessano | No, they are not |
| 17:42.08 | scalex000 | thanks a again |
| 17:42.27 | scalex000 | I will take a note if someone ask me about it |
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| 17:42.54 | drmessano | Analog just means "Not digital" |
| 17:43.15 | drmessano | The voice pair is analog, but they use digital signalling |
| 17:43.28 | drmessano | Not FXS |
| 17:44.42 | rue_mohr | if a system had a FXO card with a echo canceler, and a SIP phone with echo cancelation, like a polycom 601, what are the odds the two could conflict and cause audio levels that almost randomly fluctuate between calls, in some cases causing calls with echo |
| 17:44.52 | scalex000 | drmessano: do you know a program that can break a password of MagicJack, I try some program and I can't get it |
| 17:45.33 | riddlebox | scalex000, that goes against the terms of agreement, but you can google it |
| 17:46.45 | scalex000 | riddlebox: but its they not give the option to setup on your pbx, this is not confortable I need to connect this device if I pay for this service |
| 17:46.55 | rue_mohr | has anyone ever used polycom phones with a digium pots card? |
| 17:47.17 | scalex000 | riddlebox: I have a asterisk now and I can setup this SIP on one machine |
| 17:47.29 | rue_mohr | is "upgrade" the only thing digium support ever says? |
| 17:47.36 | scalex000 | riddlebox: also magicjack is not supported by linux |
| 17:47.37 | riddlebox | scalex000, then you can put the magic jack on an XP box, and run the line out to your pbx |
| 17:47.54 | rue_mohr | anyone know how long it takes polycom to answer a tech support question? |
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| 17:48.28 | scalex000 | riddlebox: I can't, I can only set VOip on that machine I do not have another server I can use it |
| 17:48.50 | rue_mohr | anyone know how to measure audio levels on a rtp stream |
| 17:49.03 | drmessano | scalex000: Doesnt work anymore |
| 17:49.23 | riddlebox | scalex000, this topic is covered on many forums and articles that you can find on google |
| 17:50.01 | drmessano | You can no longer pull the SIP info from a magicjack and use it in Asterisk |
| 17:50.12 | scalex000 | riddlebox: thank you!!! |
| 17:50.40 | scalex000 | drmessano: I get those information but I get failed registration |
| 17:50.43 | drmessano | scalex000: Magicjack box no work with asterisk |
| 17:50.58 | drmessano | scalex000: Magicjack make stop to it |
| 17:51.11 | dandate2 | lll' |
| 17:51.13 | dandate2 | lol |
| 17:51.18 | riddlebox | :) |
| 17:51.30 | drmessano | scalex000: registration fail because magicjack make harder to use |
| 17:52.03 | drmessano | scalex000: You get SIP info, but need more to make it work |
| 17:52.47 | scalex000 | drmessano: it's fail maybe I do not have the right password. (register=> ....) only this command fail. |
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| 17:52.55 | riddlebox | drmessano, I thought about using the magic jack, except they do not have any numbers any where near me,I figured I could put it in virtual box |
| 17:53.05 | drmessano | scalex000: God fucking damnit, it does NOT work.. |
| 17:53.26 | drmessano | scalex000: Find forum you read must. |
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| 17:53.30 | scalex000 | drmessano: do not hesitate. |
| 17:53.34 | drmessano | scalex000: Magicjack make stop |
| 17:53.53 | scalex000 | drmessano: I will do it. when I connect I will contact you |
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| 17:54.21 | riddlebox | scalex000, http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=using+magic+jack+with+asterisk&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=ee36edbd3c16a1c5 |
| 17:54.23 | drmessano | scalex000: So you figure out what hundreds of others, REAL coders, have not? |
| 17:54.47 | riddlebox | drmessano, let him read through it all |
| 17:54.52 | drmessano | scalex000: Its not as simple as WRONG PASSWORD. Do you not think someone else would have thought of that? |
| 17:56.07 | scalex000 | drmessano: maybe, but you can not say imposible, because those configuration con magicjack was done by human, on this earth there's no have a thing complete perfect |
| 17:57.03 | scalex000 | drmessano: on my country have a phase: who made the law made the trap. |
| 17:57.24 | manxpower | scalex000: the problem is that you are totally on your own. Nobody uses it so nobody will be able to help you with it |
| 17:57.38 | scalex000 | drmessano: I know you have more experience on this than me, I need your suggestion |
| 17:58.41 | drmessano | manxpower: Lots of people use it, speak for yourself and google |
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| 17:59.25 | scalex000 | I want to make a dialplan that I can use a password in order to make international call, its that possible on asterisk because I found some function (if.. goto, etc) |
| 18:00.03 | drmessano | scalex000: The only reason the magicjack worked AT ALL was because they were LAZY and made it all too easy to grab the credentials.. Obviously that's changed.. Every cat and mouse game has an endpoint nowadays. Are you still expecting Skype to be cracked? |
| 18:00.04 | manxpower | drmessano: Lots of people just MagicJack with Astrisk? |
| 18:00.18 | drmessano | manxpower: Yes, actually.. |
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| 18:00.57 | drmessano | manxpower: There's forums dedicated to hacking them, and many of those are doing so to use with Asterisk |
| 18:01.36 | scalex000 | hey guys forget for now magic jack this take a little while to work until the discover more vulnerabilities. |
| 18:01.48 | manxpower | drmessano: I guess there are many more people out there with more time than money |
| 18:01.49 | drmessano | scalex000: Same with Skype? |
| 18:02.33 | scalex000 | drmessano: Ok |
| 18:02.46 | manxpower | drmessano: 1.2/cents/min or less is so cheap these days phone calls are practically free for most people that just use it ocasionally |
| 18:02.57 | scalex000 | drmessano: any idea about this "I want to make a dialplan that I can use a password in order to make international call, its that possible on asterisk because I found some function (if.. goto, etc)" |
| 18:03.14 | drmessano | manxpower: Few minutes to unlock using the tools previously available = Full year of phone service for $40... hard for many to pass up |
| 18:03.38 | riddlebox | scalex000, ~thebook |
| 18:03.41 | drmessano | ~book |
| 18:03.42 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 18:03.42 | [TK]D-Fender | scalex000: "core show application read" , "core show application authenticate" |
| 18:03.56 | riddlebox | drmessano, dangit, its been awhile since I used that |
| 18:04.07 | drmessano | scalex000: Your problem isn't english, it's listening |
| 18:04.48 | scalex000 | drmessano: thank for give me a courage. |
| 18:05.45 | drmessano | hands scalex000 a wet piece of rope and sends him to battle the incoming army |
| 18:05.57 | scalex000 | drmessano: I believe if I speak with you guys everyday I will be better. |
| 18:05.59 | drmessano | Yes, courage counts.. So does common sense |
| 18:06.13 | drmessano | scalex000: If only we felt the same |
| 18:06.29 | drmessano | scalex000: :) |
| 18:06.41 | scalex000 | drmessano: ha hahaha |
| 18:06.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #109: Dignity and an empty sack are still worth an empty sack |
| 18:06.53 | drmessano | lol |
| 18:06.59 | scalex000 | lol |
| 18:08.05 | scalex000 | drmessano: I know in spanish but i can't find it in english I don't want to translate |
| 18:08.22 | drmessano | Every cat and mouse game with manipulating products from startups has a point where there's no or diminished returns.. perhaps you need more history. |
| 18:09.49 | drmessano | Free dialup internet hacking was a great example.. When a company gets ripped off enough due to inadequecies in their products, they fix it |
| 18:10.21 | drmessano | Netzero was a good example, Bluelight internet service, Juno free internet |
| 18:10.24 | riddlebox | hey Katty btw |
| 18:10.43 | [TK]D-Fender | scalex000: Easy translation : Stop being a cheap fuck-off and feel free to waste as much time as you want breaking their terms of service. Its an uphill battle, little salmon... |
| 18:10.48 | [TK]D-Fender | :) |
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| 18:11.18 | scalex000 | TK: thanks I will do it |
| 18:11.30 | drmessano | Yeah, thats the problem here |
| 18:12.14 | scalex000 | TK: for now I only need to found why fail the registration when I find the correct password, because the sip settings its ok |
| 18:12.21 | drmessano | It wont work |
| 18:12.44 | drmessano | They are using stronger forms of authentication now, beyond the SIP password |
| 18:12.53 | drmessano | Thats why it is failing |
| 18:13.00 | riddlebox | sees something going in circles |
| 18:13.11 | drmessano | Are you NOT listening? |
| 18:13.14 | drmessano | its NOT the password |
| 18:13.39 | [TK]D-Fender | realm, reg frequency, useragent, etc |
| 18:14.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Their handshake has more choreography than last night's performance of Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Cats" |
| 18:15.01 | Gnitset | anyone got a recomendation on a linuxdist who has good support for asterisk, latest stable in a stable releas of the dist for example? |
| 18:15.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: Any you can admin and install * prerequisites on. |
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| 18:17.00 | drmessano | http://www.magicjacksupport.com/stroths-mj-utilities-1-6-sip-info-more-8-2-update-t4230-315.html |
| 18:17.28 | Gnitset | but then i have to do a lot of work with every new relaese instead of the package maintainer |
| 18:17.31 | drmessano | Read the last few pages, not the first paragraph of the first and go "Oh yes, it work" |
| 18:17.50 | scalex000 | drmessano: Ok |
| 18:21.11 | drmessano | If something changes in the world, like say Asterisk no longer working with SIP, you do realize ALL those pages on the internet with SIP setup for Asterisk dont go away, right? |
| 18:21.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: You didn;t mention "packages" before |
| 18:21.32 | Gnitset | sorry, i meant to |
| 18:21.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: Wel generally recommend AGAINST using packaged * |
| 18:22.02 | drmessano | There is no $mjworks tag in PHP that will make all those blog pages show NO |
| 18:22.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: Package maintainers are rarely up to date and they do a poor job often and things break |
| 18:22.51 | Gnitset | its true, but i'm looking for a recomendation to the dist with the best package maintainer |
| 18:23.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: probably AsteriskNOW. |
| 18:23.59 | Gnitset | i tried it a while ago but wasnt inpressed, but i'll give it a try again |
| 18:24.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: "wasn't impressed"? With what? |
| 18:25.00 | Gnitset | dont remember, it is just e weak memory |
| 18:25.28 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: Share commentary you can at least qualify |
| 18:26.53 | Gnitset | sorry, but what did you just say? my english isn't the greatest |
| 18:27.46 | Gnitset | but as i said, i'll try it again |
| 18:27.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Gnitset: You didn't have any points to support your dislike of AsteriskNOW. |
| 18:32.44 | Gnitset | i said that i tried AsteriskNOW once before and the only thing i remeber was that i got in to some problem and i dint find a fix, it wasnt critical to install * at that time so i gave up. |
| 18:37.54 | Gnitset | [TK]D-Fender: thanks for the help |
| 18:38.35 | Gnitset | i'll be back if i run in to the same problem again |
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| 19:14.47 | Garymc | wow im having pure problems opening udp ports 5060 and 10000-20000 on my BT HGV2700 router? BT reckon it should work the nuts, but im not so sure...... |
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| 19:15.41 | garymc | anyone else got one of these Broadband hubs? and get sip working through to your pbx with it? |
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| 19:25.50 | Xetrov` | garymc: make sure upnp is not enabled |
| 19:27.08 | [TK]D-Fender | REMOVE that POS |
| 19:28.25 | ian6 | upnp shouldn't/wouldn't break sip. |
| 19:28.45 | Xetrov` | i have had it cause me issues site to site |
| 19:29.02 | Xetrov` | changing the outgoing port and the remote asterisk system rejecting the packets |
| 19:29.35 | ian6 | that doesn't make sense, asterisk knows nothing about upnp, and upnp isn't going to affect anything that doesn't interact directly with it. |
| 19:32.21 | garymc | yeah its not on anyway |
| 19:32.39 | garymc | im pretty sure its something to do with my routers UDP port forwarding |
| 19:34.19 | ian6 | I assume you have the same port range defined in rtp.conf? Dumb question I know. |
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| 19:34.41 | garymc | yes i think so |
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| 19:35.36 | garymc | ill pastebin my rtp.conf could you tell me if it is correct? |
| 19:36.48 | garymc | heres my rtp.conf http://pastebin.ca/1564536 doe sit need port 5060 mentoined in here anywhere? |
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| 19:40.30 | garymc | anyone take a look at my rtp.conf file? |
| 19:40.39 | garymc | do i need to mention port 5060 in it? |
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| 19:43.41 | ian6 | no, 5060 goes in sip.conf |
| 19:45.48 | garymc | so my rtp.conf os fine? |
| 19:45.54 | garymc | *is |
| 19:46.46 | ian6 | looks fine, yes. |
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| 19:49.57 | netpro25_ | Hello how can I allow only g729a codec for an extension? |
| 19:50.41 | Kobaz | netpro25_: edit your appropriate device config file and do deny=all allow=g729a |
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| 19:51.32 | netpro25_ | Kobaz: Are you sure its not just g729 |
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| 19:51.45 | Kobaz | netpro25_: well whatever it is |
| 19:52.00 | netpro25_ | heh |
| 19:52.04 | netpro25_ | thanks |
| 19:52.46 | netpro25_ | Now I am getting channel.c:2811 set_format: Unable to find a codec translation path from g729 to slin |
| 19:53.56 | netpro25_ | Seems there may be licensing with g729 required |
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| 20:08.41 | asterisker | hi Guys |
| 20:09.09 | asterisker | New here and looking for some help - anyone able to help with a timeout issue? |
| 20:10.13 | asterisker | my asterisk is behind a NAT - and an extension is outside my local network but behind another nat elsewhere |
| 20:10.35 | asterisker | after the extension registers, I can make a call to it - but after a few minutes, i can no longer call 'em |
| 20:10.44 | asterisker | meanwhile they can initiate calls just fine |
| 20:10.55 | asterisker | Any ideas? |
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| 20:13.08 | KingDavidNYC | hello everybody!!! |
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| 20:16.48 | kaldemar | asterisker: use qualify parameter in sip.conf for nat keepalive |
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| 20:19.21 | KingDavidNYC | My call keeps dropping at 20 seconds with msg no reply to our critical packet |
| 20:21.36 | asterisker | kaldemar - when I add that |
| 20:21.52 | asterisker | it can't even register |
| 20:22.13 | asterisker | i pinged the remote IP and it takes about 490 ms for a roundtrip ping |
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| 20:22.27 | asterisker | what do you suggest i keep as my qualify value ? |
| 20:22.39 | asterisker | i tried qualify=9000 (assuming it gives 9 seconds) |
| 20:22.40 | asterisker | ? |
| 20:25.21 | asterisker | when I add qualify=yes (or qualify=9000) in my config - asterisk shows those peers as UNREACHABLE when i do "sip show peers" afterwards |
| 20:25.51 | geneticx | I have an asterisk box behind NAT, and an extension outside my local network but behind another nat similar to asterisker. Everything seems fine, extension is able to register and make and receive calls, but I get one way audio. As of right now I have only forwarded the following ports on my nat router to my asterisk box: udp 5060 5061 10000-20000 any other ports that I should open ? |
| 20:26.57 | kaldemar | ~sipnat |
| 20:26.58 | infobot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 20:27.26 | asterisker | genaticx - try adding canreinvite=no to your users in sip.conf |
| 20:27.48 | asterisker | your asterisk could be trying to do nativebridging (and your firewall is blocking that) |
| 20:28.43 | geneticx | asterisker: ok, let me try that. |
| 20:30.50 | asterisker | kaldemar - any ideas? |
| 20:31.56 | geneticx | asterisker: no that didn't work. I'm getting no audio at all...weird. |
| 20:33.34 | drmessano | Follow the guide |
| 20:33.51 | kaldemar | asterisker: qualify doesn't prevent registering. did you do something else as well? 1000 should be enough for the qualify. |
| 20:34.44 | geneticx | yeah I had already followed the guide before, but that didn't solve my issue... |
| 20:35.06 | kaldemar | pastebin a sip debug of a call |
| 20:35.49 | drmessano | geneticx: Externip or exterhhost? |
| 20:36.03 | geneticx | kaldemar: was that for me? |
| 20:36.09 | kaldemar | geneticx: yes |
| 20:36.35 | asterisker | kaldemar - no i didn't change anything else - once i removed qualify, it shows the users as registered again |
| 20:36.46 | geneticx | drmessano: I'm sorry , im not sure what you mean by that.. |
| 20:36.53 | geneticx | kaldemar: ok i will.. |
| 20:36.56 | asterisker | I am thinking it has something to do with the remote PAP2T timing out |
| 20:37.01 | drmessano | geneticx: Which of those settings did you use? |
| 20:37.10 | drmessano | geneticx: externhost or externip? |
| 20:37.24 | kaldemar | asterisker: what makes you think they don't register? |
| 20:37.53 | asterisker | as soon as i change it and do sip reload |
| 20:38.35 | asterisker | [Sep 13 16:38:21] NOTICE[6584]: chan_sip.c:19828 sip_poke_noanswer: Peer 'testuser1' is now UNREACHABLE! Last qualify: 0 |
| 20:38.50 | drmessano | geneticx: Are you there? |
| 20:38.57 | asterisker | maybe its because the remote thing is already dead (disconnected) |
| 20:39.04 | kaldemar | asterisker: that has nothing to do with registering |
| 20:39.21 | asterisker | and then in sip show peers- it shows remote status as "UNKNOWN" |
| 20:39.32 | geneticx | drmessano: yeah, im sorry I was feeding the dog.. |
| 20:39.38 | drmessano | geneticx: Which of those settings did you use? |
| 20:39.40 | drmessano | geneticx: externhost or externip? |
| 20:39.47 | geneticx | drmessano: on my sip.conf? |
| 20:39.51 | drmessano | YES |
| 20:40.04 | geneticx | drmessano: i didn't use any of those two |
| 20:40.12 | drmessano | Then you didnt follow any guides |
| 20:40.14 | drmessano | http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 |
| 20:40.16 | drmessano | ^^^ FOLLOW |
| 20:40.19 | kaldemar | asterisker: that is not a registering issue either. it's about the qualify. |
| 20:40.26 | asterisker | kalmer: xx1.xxx.xxx.xxx D N 11911 UNREACHABLE |
| 20:40.50 | drmessano | Otherwise, you are wasting our time |
| 20:40.53 | kaldemar | asterisker: if the peer is "host=dynamic" and you see an ip address, then it has registered |
| 20:41.06 | asterisker | it says that the remote station is now unreachable - so i guess you are saying that adding qualify is basically just asserting it is not reachable at this point in time |
| 20:41.09 | asterisker | which is the case anyway |
| 20:41.17 | asterisker | yea - i see IP and that IP is pingable |
| 20:41.41 | asterisker | but a call can not b routed - i.e. the remote station doesn't ring - and i get auto-congestion message |
| 20:41.45 | geneticx | drmessano: I'm sorry I didnt realize it was all the way up in the general context, yes I used externhost |
| 20:41.46 | kaldemar | asterisker: qualify makes asterisk send SIP OPTIONS to the client and expect an answer to it |
| 20:41.51 | asterisker | unless they reset the device. |
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| 20:42.24 | asterisker | kaldemar: ah i see. |
| 20:42.42 | asterisker | i jst dont understand what changes when they reset the device |
| 20:42.45 | kaldemar | asterisker: that's what's supposed to keep a nat session alive. |
| 20:42.57 | asterisker | SIP is UDP so there shouldn't be a timeout |
| 20:43.00 | asterisker | ohh the nat timeout |
| 20:43.09 | asterisker | so you think - if i have them reset it once |
| 20:43.23 | asterisker | and then while the nat is alive, qualify will hopefully keep it alive |
| 20:43.24 | asterisker | ? |
| 20:45.20 | kaldemar | yes, but a crappy router may be an obstacle. |
| 20:45.55 | asterisker | hmm |
| 20:46.33 | asterisker | the router seems to work right after the reset - so it seems to be doing that decent natting |
| 20:46.47 | asterisker | i hope qualify resolves the issue |
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| 20:49.18 | asterisker | kaldemar: anything else that you can recommend ? |
| 20:49.28 | asterisker | i am going to try this |
| 20:49.52 | asterisker | i found some NAT_KEEPALIVE settings in the PAP2T config but they didn't seem to do anything |
| 20:49.54 | asterisker | :-( |
| 20:50.48 | asterisker | btw http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions lists some cases ( i am case # 4) but the link to HowTo is broken - anyone has any ideas wat the correct link to the HowTo is ? |
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| 21:03.44 | asterisker | kaldemar: thanks for ur help |
| 21:03.57 | asterisker | i will give it a try and hopefully resolve the issue. |
| 21:03.59 | asterisker | thanks again |
| 21:04.01 | asterisker | bye for now |
| 21:04.33 | geneticx | kaldemar: here is my sip debug dump: |
| 21:04.33 | geneticx | http://pastebin.com/d310ff753 |
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| 21:14.09 | Gnutoo | hi the I bought the book,remade part of my config but I have that error message: check_auth: username mismatch, have <101>, digest has <105>,I've tried to login with 2 different user name from the same ip,I seem to be nated(I'm not at the same location than the server) |
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| 21:16.27 | Gnutoo | how do I clear the ip cache? |
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| 21:27.34 | manxpower | ~answers |
| 21:27.35 | infobot | rumour has it, answers is Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki: http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt |
| 21:27.51 | geneticx | kaldemar: any ideas? |
| 21:30.10 | joako | Gnutoo: I've had issues where 2 clients behind same NAT -> same asterisk outside NAT where password of both SIP clients are the same cause isssues.... so I would first check to make sure both passwords are not the same. Not sure if there is a better way but to clear the cache you might try to stop Asterisk then remove the db file |
| 21:31.24 | Gnutoo | joako, ok I stop asterisk and restart it |
| 21:32.11 | Gnutoo | how do I clear astdb cache? |
| 21:32.22 | Gnutoo | where is that db file |
| 21:32.29 | Gnutoo | manxpower, I've the book |
| 21:32.34 | Gnutoo | I'll look |
| 21:33.36 | joako | The only way I am aware is to remove/rename /var/lib/asterisk/astdb |
| 21:33.50 | Gnutoo | ok thanks |
| 21:34.27 | dandate2 | does a ringall on a lot of extentions cause cpu overhead? |
| 21:34.40 | Gnutoo | thanks a lot |
| 21:43.41 | Katty | wibbles. |
| 21:45.14 | geneticx | kaldemar: you there? |
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| 22:00.44 | galeras | app_queue.c:3084 try_calling: Had to drop call because I couldn't make IAX2/10000-6052 compatible with Agent/1001. |
| 22:00.51 | galeras | Any Idea? |
| 22:04.27 | tgunr | would anyone have some clues as to why I am getting this error? I can't find anything obvious like port is already in use. |
| 22:04.28 | tgunr | chan_sip.c:18451 reload_config: Failed to bind to 66.249.166.10:5060: Can't assign requested address |
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| 22:10.40 | ttl- | is there a way to connect back to a call that was on hold when my phone lost power? |
| 22:10.52 | ttl- | seems to be on hold still |
| 22:10.56 | ttl- | lol |
| 22:11.43 | izzyg | is there a *code to pick up a call? |
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| 22:14.25 | psilikon | screen it |
| 22:17.24 | ttl- | how to kill the connection |
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| 22:21.44 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: the other guy at the office must've been using a Linksys 2102 or something, not a PAP2...just tried a pap2 here, and it's not working for faxing |
| 22:21.57 | phix | ttl-: sudo killall asterisk |
| 22:22.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Helix Good To The Last Drop.mp3dlyz0mg!!! O RLY?! |
| 22:22.13 | obnauticus | hmm |
| 22:22.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Dangit |
| 22:22.21 | obnauticus | What's a good DID provider? |
| 22:22.26 | obnauticus | free DID* |
| 22:22.44 | obnauticus | I was previously using ipkall....but their 30 day thing pisses me off |
| 22:22.46 | phix | good != free |
| 22:23.02 | phix | actually more the other way around |
| 22:23.54 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: ? |
| 22:23.59 | obnauticus | free = best |
| 22:24.03 | obnauticus | because you do not have to pay for it |
| 22:24.09 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: MP3 mixing in mocking you :p; |
| 22:24.11 | ttl- | phix: lol |
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| 22:24.19 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: i c |
| 22:24.28 | ttl- | phix: halt |
| 22:24.38 | dlynes | obnauticus: free = worst because you do not have to pay for it...horrible quality |
| 22:24.57 | dlynes | next to free is just as bad |
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| 22:25.56 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: gotta wonder why it's got t.38 options on it, when it doesn't actually support it properly |
| 22:26.28 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: but, even according to cisco's own website, pap2's don't support t.38 |
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| 22:30.52 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: btw...have you figured out how to get asterisk to look somewhere other than /var/run for the .pid and .ctl files? |
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| 22:32.15 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: asterisk.conf <- |
| 22:32.23 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: hidden in the big print |
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| 22:37.02 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: yeah....I changed that...it's still looking in /var/run, and not /var/run/asterisk where I told it |
| 22:37.52 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: that's why i figured it must not be looking in the config file for it, but somewhere else |
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| 23:16.01 | cosmicwombat | dandate2: ping |
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| 23:17.00 | whitenoise | hi |
| 23:17.31 | dlynes | Does anyone happen to have a link on the linksys website for the pap2-na firmware upgrades? They seem to have either hidden it or deleted it |
| 23:17.33 | dlynes | Thanks |
| 23:18.25 | Gokee2 | Good afternoon everyone, I am playing around with asterisk some more today. I have got a softphone (SFLphone AWESOME soft phone!) but I am unsure if everything is right. I dial 500 and it seems to connect. But in my dial plan it says something about echo? So I thought I would be able to say stuff and have it echoed back? Is there any way to have asterisk make some noice so I can be sure everything is ok? |
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| 23:33.31 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: Nope...I guess it was a PAP2...with 2.0.12(LS) firmware....I'm using the 2.0.10(LSc) firmware, and it's not working |
| 23:34.21 | dlynes | Gokee2: help playback |
| 23:44.11 | hesco | Is there any sort of syntax checking method for a dialplan, something like `perl -wc script_name.pl`, for instance? |
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| 23:50.56 | dlynes | hesco: dialplan reload |
| 23:51.20 | [TK]D-Fender | hesco: No |
| 23:51.22 | dlynes | hesco: but that'll only give you a very limited syntax check...it won't perform a full lint analysis |
| 23:51.47 | [TK]D-Fender | hesco: Dialplan is parsed in run-time, not load. |
| 23:52.03 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: anyways...fwiw, it's hit and miss which firmware versions of the linksys pap2-na's support t.38 properly |
| 23:52.10 | [TK]D-Fender | hesco: You can have invalid apps, etc and never know it till run |
| 23:52.47 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: It's be good if you could pass a few minutes with coppice on this if you have something to cofirm to him |
| 23:53.26 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: ok...I've confirmed the latest firmware doesn't support it properly, and the old one I had didn't, but a newer one than the old one I had did support it |
| 23:54.04 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: so now I'm off in search of a newer version of the firmware that I actually have access to that supports it |
| 23:54.17 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: linksys is not terribly forthcoming with downloadable firmware |
| 23:55.28 | dlynes | coppice: you see all that? |
| 23:58.46 | coppice | It appears there was one revision of the PAP2 or PAP2T that had some config stuff for T.38 that was incomplete, and never worked. It was removed in the next version, and the version with the incomplete support was supposed to have not been widely circulated. |
| 23:59.15 | Gokee2 | dlynes, Eh? where would I find that? |
| 23:59.51 | coppice | They appear to use common source code for a range of products, and I suspect they failed to switch off some things in the PAP2 build at one point |