| 00:02.32 | Micc | Chainsaw, yeah I'm going to try to find the start of the bad links. |
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| 00:03.25 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o Deeewayne] by ChanServ |
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| 00:05.14 | Micc | it looks like it wasn't actually qwest router. |
| 00:05.44 | Micc | I'm getting some randomly high ping times from this router on above.net 216.200.88.131 |
| 00:05.56 | Micc | how does that one look from the UK? |
| 00:07.53 | TSM | im in the UK |
| 00:08.12 | TSM | google up "Looking Glass" |
| 00:08.27 | TSM | there are lots of ISPs around that have open ping services |
| 00:13.06 | p3nguin_ | Open ping services? |
| 00:13.13 | Chainsaw | Micc: Without showing an actual trace on pastebin and marking your bad hops... it doesn't matter. |
| 00:13.25 | Chainsaw | p3nguin_: A little web applet that pings what you tell it to from their end. |
| 00:13.46 | p3nguin_ | Oh, rather than pinging from my side, I can ping via a web server? |
| 00:13.48 | Chainsaw | p3nguin_: Probably meant traceroute instead of ping, but it doesn't really matter. |
| 00:13.52 | Chainsaw | p3nguin_: Yes. |
| 00:14.13 | Chainsaw | p3nguin_: That's basically what a "looking glass" is. A set of networking tools that show you what that network sees. |
| 00:14.14 | p3nguin_ | If my network is down, that's going to be a useless tool. |
| 00:14.33 | Chainsaw | If you have a problem getting to that ISP, it might be useful to see if they can get to you. |
| 00:14.42 | Chainsaw | And if not, how far they get. |
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| 00:21.39 | helloritesh | Folks, has anyone experience issues with MoH where the audio is intermittant. Basically, when MoH is playing the listener speaks (noisy background), the music stops and when its all quite, the music starts again. It annoying and I am pretty sure there is a simple fix for it. Any clues? |
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| 00:25.56 | Carlos_PHX | helloritesh: Switch to a non-compressed CODEC. |
| 00:35.28 | VooDooNOFX | Does anyone have a site or a howto on call queues, and agent logins? |
| 00:35.41 | VooDooNOFX | all the ones i've seen are for 1.2, or are using some crazy macros |
| 00:35.54 | Carlos_PHX | Yeah, voip-info.org |
| 00:35.57 | Chainsaw | VooDooNOFX: That's because AgentCallbackLogin got deprecated. |
| 00:36.06 | Chainsaw | VooDooNOFX: So now you need "crazy macros" to survive. |
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| 00:43.52 | mace | can anyone assist me with some iax2 issues i'm having? |
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| 00:44.18 | Chainsaw | We won't know until you ask the question mace. |
| 00:44.19 | Deeewayne | anyone ever use an ATCOM IAX2 phone? |
| 00:44.34 | mace | i have an asterisk install with a sip phone hanging off it, behind a linux firewall. i have another asterisk server on the net elsewhere with no firewalling |
| 00:45.03 | mace | i can receive incoming calls from the net server and get two way audio, everything works fine |
| 00:45.28 | Chainsaw | Deeewayne: Not me, no. All Cisco 7960 at work. |
| 00:46.08 | mace | however most outgoing calls ring, but even when the destination answers, the sip handset keeps getting the ringing indicator, and no audio is passed |
| 00:46.40 | mace | so i tried setting up an echo test on the net server, and get exactly the same problem |
| 00:47.02 | mace | any ideas where to start? have looked at packet traces, but nothing is jumping out at me |
| 00:47.11 | Chainsaw | mace: core set verbose 10 on the Asterisk console. |
| 00:47.24 | Chainsaw | mace: That will cause it to admit more of what goes on. |
| 00:47.48 | mace | nods |
| 00:47.51 | mace | have done |
| 00:48.00 | Chainsaw | Now try a failing call again. |
| 00:48.04 | Chainsaw | And see if anything jumps out at you. |
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| 00:50.54 | mace | nope, other than the fact that the swine is working again :/ |
| 00:51.47 | Chainsaw | It might fail if you try a few more times though. |
| 00:51.56 | Chainsaw | (You could also run the other box in verbose 10) |
| 00:52.42 | mace | everything is at 10 :) |
| 00:52.53 | mace | right reproduced.. the echo test thing was a misnomer i think |
| 00:53.19 | Chainsaw | If nothing stands out, just stick it all on pastebin.ca for a bit. |
| 00:53.24 | mace | yes, echotest was misnomer |
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| 00:55.08 | mace | and now i can't reproduce the call issue again, argh |
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| 00:57.24 | trnzmeta | guys: does asterisk support VAD, is there anywhere to disable it from server side? |
| 01:01.45 | p3nguin_ | trnzmeta: no |
| 01:02.02 | p3nguin_ | trnzmeta: You must disable it on the clients. |
| 01:03.08 | p3nguin_ | trnzmeta: http://www.asteriskguru.com/tutorials/comfort_noise_support_incomplete.html |
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| 01:07.58 | trnzmeta | p3nguin_: ta |
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| 01:17.35 | *** join/#asterisk IRCFan (i=bcdd5b52@gateway/web/freenode/x-hguqqyncczqcrojc) |
| 01:19.22 | IRCFan | Hi. |
| 01:19.25 | IRCFan | Anyone about? |
| 01:19.54 | IRCFan | Was hoping somebody might be able to help me with a test call or two.... SIP G711 or GSM preferablly also G729 (or most others if necessary).... |
| 01:20.04 | IRCFan | ... seem to be getting some network transit issues (jitter, etc.) |
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| 01:20.35 | IRCFan | Hopefully someone kindly helping with allowing me place a few test calls to / from them will help me confirm if it is local network end... :) . Please. Thank you :) . |
| 01:20.46 | IRCFan | * with allowing me to place... |
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| 01:23.10 | jblack | you can reach my system at 2062035855. |
| 01:24.50 | IRCFan | Hi. Thank you very much. :) |
| 01:24.53 | IRCFan | Will try now... |
| 01:25.02 | jblack | I'm not in the mood to talk,btw. |
| 01:25.07 | jblack | but you can hit up the phone system all you want. |
| 01:25.45 | IRCFan | Ok. Thanks... |
| 01:26.00 | IRCFan | Is it on ENUM? |
| 01:26.05 | IRCFan | Or do you have a direct dial SIP address? |
| 01:26.10 | IRCFan | (I take it that was PSTN)? |
| 01:26.28 | jblack | That's pstn. I don't remember if I have guest enabled on sip or iax2, but you can try mercury.linuxguru.net |
| 01:27.20 | jblack | wonders if he really needs this much godsmack on his cell phone |
| 01:27.38 | jblack | How many different ways can one really say "Reality bites" |
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| 01:32.39 | Katty | hugs jblack |
| 01:32.45 | Katty | jblack: how was your day? |
| 01:34.09 | jblack | hugs katty |
| 01:34.25 | jblack | I was a lawbreaker today. Several times over. How about you? =) |
| 01:34.39 | jblack | pokes his nose out the blinds, looking for the fuzz |
| 01:34.55 | Katty | gosh, nothing serious i hope? |
| 01:35.15 | Katty | i also mildly broke the law on a bowl of ice cream and a brownie. |
| 01:35.33 | IRCFan | lol - cool |
| 01:35.33 | jblack | Breaking and entering, theft... littering. |
| 01:35.33 | Katty | littering?! for shame! |
| 01:35.41 | Katty | did you lock yourself out of the house again? |
| 01:35.52 | jblack | again? When do I ever do that? |
| 01:36.00 | IRCFan | Katty - >> random strange question>> (lol - if I may? hopefully no offence . ignore or say no if you wish) >> Are you a female Asterisk network operator / technicain? :) |
| 01:36.13 | jblack | what's gender got to do with anything? |
| 01:36.36 | Katty | jblack: well it's the only good reason i could think of for breaking and entering. |
| 01:36.40 | jblack | I'm a meals on wheels volunteer, which involves going into houses and delivering food. |
| 01:36.49 | Katty | ohisee. |
| 01:36.57 | ChannelZ | What's love got to do with it? |
| 01:36.59 | jblack | I did a new route on my own today.. I went into the wrong house. |
| 01:37.04 | Katty | oops |
| 01:37.04 | mace | Chainsaw: http://pastebin.ca/1648705 is "host1", the net host |
| 01:37.13 | Katty | lol |
| 01:37.17 | jblack | That's the first B&E. THen I left a meal. That's the littering part.... |
| 01:37.20 | mace | http://pastebin.ca/1648706 is "host2", the machine behind the firewall |
| 01:37.22 | IRCFan | lol - hmmm... not sure... maybe coolness... don't often see to many female asterisk / network admins techs, etc... I like it and (networks, admin, etc. tech and femals) hmm lol... so like it / think it is cool when their are / are more female operators, etc;. :) |
| 01:37.38 | Katty | IRCFan: yes. |
| 01:37.53 | jblack | Then I realized I screwed up, and went back in. THat's the second B&E. And took the meal back, which is when I stole the litter I left. =) |
| 01:38.04 | mace | Chainsaw: perhaps you'll know better than me, but i'm kinda getting the impression that host1 is attempting to transfer the call to host2? |
| 01:38.08 | Katty | jblack: LOL!!! |
| 01:38.15 | Katty | jblack: too funny. |
| 01:38.26 | IRCFan | Katty - :) Cool. Thanks. |
| 01:38.37 | jblack | All day I've been thinkin 'bout it. I was wandering all around someone's house, and they never knew it. |
| 01:38.49 | IRCFan | Katty - are you an independent / self employed, contractor or work for a soft / hardware house? |
| 01:38.52 | jblack | which is creepy as shit, imho. |
| 01:39.01 | IRCFan | jblack - sounds like a good job to me - well done :) |
| 01:39.26 | jblack | Oh! I guess I can also add "leaving the scene of a crime" twice, right? |
| 01:39.57 | jblack | So, that was my day. How about you? |
| 01:40.01 | Chainsaw | mace: No glaring errors in the trace. Did you check with Fender? |
| 01:40.12 | mace | Fender? |
| 01:40.21 | Chainsaw | points at [TK]D-Fender |
| 01:40.27 | Katty | IRCFan: i work for a small company. |
| 01:40.34 | IRCFan | Katty - ok - cool thanks :) |
| 01:40.37 | Katty | IRCFan: i handle all the windows server, workstation, phone system stuff for the company. |
| 01:40.58 | IRCFan | jblack - thanks again for your help :) .. and good for you, well done and thanks with the meals on wheels stuff... |
| 01:41.00 | Katty | IRCFan: we don't do much asterisk stuff anymore these days, people around here are more interested in Brand Name and older Digital Systems |
| 01:41.18 | Katty | IRCFan: and in today's market, we market to anyone who's wanting a phone system. |
| 01:41.19 | IRCFan | Ok.. That can be fun and cool too :) |
| 01:41.22 | mace | Chainsaw: nope, is fender a bot or a real person? :) |
| 01:41.28 | jblack | IRCFan: You're not even on the right side of the pond! |
| 01:41.28 | Katty | IRCFan: luckily i'm also samsung and toshiba certified. |
| 01:41.32 | IRCFan | Katty :) |
| 01:41.37 | Katty | anywho |
| 01:41.49 | jblack | Katty rocks, and is well worth the reasonable cost. |
| 01:41.50 | Katty | jblack: today was good. didn't go to work again. |
| 01:42.00 | IRCFan | Katty - do you find / meet many fellow female telecoms engineers? |
| 01:42.02 | jblack | Oh? |
| 01:42.08 | Katty | IRCFan: sadly not yet. :< |
| 01:42.20 | Katty | IRCFan: i wouldn't mind a couple tho. most of my female friends are uhmm. |
| 01:42.22 | Katty | hmm. |
| 01:42.25 | IRCFan | jblack - Ok... cool. Thanks I will remember that :) |
| 01:42.26 | Katty | girly. |
| 01:42.44 | jblack | Girly girls. Wow. |
| 01:42.52 | mace | shocking |
| 01:42.54 | jblack | Next you'll tell me that you know some manly men |
| 01:42.54 | IRCFan | Katty :) |
| 01:42.57 | Katty | yeah, imagine that. heh |
| 01:43.02 | Chainsaw | mace: A real person, yes. |
| 01:43.08 | IRCFan | Katty - I didn't think it was just me... lol :P |
| 01:43.10 | Katty | i don't know. they like shopping...and going to the spa, and getting their hair done |
| 01:43.13 | jblack | That throw rocks, and club the girly girls over the head and drag 'em home, etc. |
| 01:43.31 | mace | waits to see if [TK]D-Fender is awake |
| 01:43.45 | IRCFan | Katty - and then straight into the patch panels and asterisk coding :P |
| 01:43.48 | jblack | mace: whadayawant ? |
| 01:44.22 | jblack | Katty: So, why the hooky again? |
| 01:44.42 | mace | jblack: having some troubles with * <- firewall -> internet <-> * <-> * at voiptalk |
| 01:45.02 | Katty | jblack: ryan stayed home. |
| 01:45.23 | jblack | and... what? You felt the need to mother him? =) |
| 01:45.27 | mace | jblack: some outgoing calls don't establish properly, sip handset keeps indicating ringing, but remote POTS phone has answered |
| 01:45.32 | Katty | jblack: not exactly. |
| 01:45.45 | Katty | jblack: more like i just didn't want to go to work |
| 01:46.02 | jblack | Hey, if you don't need the money... ;) |
| 01:46.23 | jblack | mace: firewall, or nat, or both? |
| 01:46.40 | Katty | i had some time saved up |
| 01:46.48 | Katty | but gotta go in tomorrow, else the building might catch on fire. |
| 01:46.53 | Katty | things have a habit of falling apart when i'm gone ^_- |
| 01:47.05 | jblack | nods |
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| 01:47.43 | mace | jblack: fw/nat |
| 01:47.47 | cherva | is there a way to make asterisk search and register extensions like the way it works with SIP gateways ? |
| 01:48.58 | jblack | cherva: pardon? |
| 01:48.58 | mace | jblack: incoming calls establish fine, and some outgoing, but most outgoing get stuck in this limbo state |
| 01:48.58 | jblack | mace: Things are usually the problem the other way around. |
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| 01:48.58 | mace | jblack: indeed |
| 01:48.58 | Katty | jblack: made a new recipe today. |
| 01:48.58 | jblack | mace: If it were * on the other side, I'd say "turn on the NAT option" |
| 01:49.12 | Katty | http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2009/10/clean-out-fridge-pasta.html |
| 01:49.21 | cherva | jblack: I have a firewall infront of my asterisk and it registers the SIP gateways without opening or forwarding any ports in the firewall .... how can I do the same for sip extensions is it possible ? |
| 01:50.06 | jblack | forget it guys. I'm not getting involved in firewall issues tonight. Just don't want that sort of headache. |
| 01:50.18 | Katty | headache free zone at katty's house |
| 01:50.22 | mace | jblack: :) |
| 01:50.30 | cherva | jblack: I want the server to connect to the phone, not the phone to the server |
| 01:50.35 | jblack | at least not tonight. I'm sure [TK]D-Fender will be back in the mrning for abuse. He eats that stuff up becuase he's a masochist. |
| 01:50.42 | jblack | me, I'm more the sadist type |
| 01:50.57 | jblack | cherva: YOu make less and less sense over time. |
| 01:51.17 | jblack | mace: You could cheat. There's a couple provides that'll vpn with ya. =) |
| 01:51.37 | jblack | Or switch over to iax. That works very, very well with firealls |
| 01:51.40 | mace | jblack: yeah i could vpn out to my online * |
| 01:51.44 | mace | jblack: this /is/ iax :( |
| 01:51.50 | jblack | hurh? |
| 01:51.55 | jblack | iax2 "just works". |
| 01:52.00 | Katty | sounds like a good time for a New Topic |
| 01:52.02 | mace | indeed, sometimes :) |
| 01:52.07 | cherva | jblack: ok let me try again.... the server connects to the sip gateways right ? so a firewall infront of the asterisk with no opened ports is ok |
| 01:52.39 | jblack | ... |
| 01:52.46 | Katty | jblack: so...uhh. |
| 01:52.49 | Katty | jblack: halloween plans? |
| 01:53.04 | jblack | are you reading what you write before you hit enter? "asterisk with no opened ports is ok"... |
| 01:53.14 | jblack | Katty: I'm gonna.. Um.. dunno. |
| 01:53.34 | Deeewayne | I have gummy Krabby Patties |
| 01:53.34 | jblack | maybe i'll drive around really slow behind kids, with my lights off. That usually gets people excited |
| 01:53.44 | Katty | jblack: sit around? |
| 01:53.56 | jblack | yeah, if you want the truth. |
| 01:54.04 | Katty | nods |
| 01:54.07 | jblack | Hide in the house with the lights off, and hope nobody knocks. |
| 01:54.11 | Katty | *hee* |
| 01:54.24 | Katty | been there, done that ;) |
| 01:54.25 | mace | can someone clarify/correct my understanding as to what might be happening: |
| 01:54.30 | jblack | cmon! I can't keep candy in this house! That would be tantamount to suicide! |
| 01:54.41 | Katty | you outta hand out apples. |
| 01:54.45 | Katty | i'm sure the kids would love that ;) |
| 01:54.53 | jblack | that'll go good with the slow driving. |
| 01:55.09 | jblack | Should I put a sign that says "free razorblade with each bite" ? |
| 01:55.38 | jblack | mace: whatever you're typing, it's getting too long |
| 01:55.49 | mace | sip handset starts dialing sequence via *a, which dials *b, which dials *c. ringing commences, remote answers, *c tells *b, *b attempts to hand over *c directly to *a |
| 01:55.53 | Katty | me and ryan are going to his parent's house...they're having some sort of chili thing, then we're taking the nieces out to collect goodies. |
| 01:56.01 | mace | jblack: meh |
| 01:56.04 | cherva | jblack: I have a firewall that has no opened pors for inbound connections and behind it there is my asterisk server and that server lookups his sip trunks..... |
| 01:56.40 | jblack | mace: without paying much attention, I'd say you're describing a redirect. |
| 01:56.49 | Katty | jblack: and those girls don't need candy :/ |
| 01:56.51 | jblack | which could be your problem. make sure everything has redirect=no |
| 01:56.57 | jblack | katty: Which ones do? |
| 01:57.10 | Katty | jblack: well, yeah, but these girls REALLY don't need candy |
| 01:57.10 | cherva | jblack: and I need a way to make the server lookup his extensions so I don't need to open and redirect port 5060 from the firewall to the asterisk |
| 01:57.13 | mace | jblack: will do, ta |
| 01:57.32 | jblack | Ohhhhhh, you mean like they would be better off with jumpropes than liccorice ropes? |
| 01:57.38 | Katty | yes. |
| 01:57.56 | jblack | That's a lot of kids these days. |
| 01:58.19 | jblack | My kid, once she moved to mom's last year, started putting on the pounds (and dropping the grades) |
| 01:58.56 | Katty | how old is she? |
| 01:59.01 | jblack | 15. |
| 01:59.10 | Katty | difficult time for her |
| 01:59.49 | jblack | Yeah. |
| 02:00.12 | Katty | hopefully she'll see the light before it becomes an addiction |
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| 02:00.26 | jblack | I enforced bastard rules like peeing good grades and eating relatively healthy. Mom didn't have such rules, so gues swhere she lives. |
| 02:00.57 | jblack | heh. keeping good grades. |
| 02:01.00 | Katty | daughters are usually closer to their mother's anyway |
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| 02:01.07 | jblack | shrugs |
| 02:01.13 | mace | jblack: of course, you meant transfer=no ;-) |
| 02:01.22 | Jckf | Does Asterisk support video calls with multiple participants (video conference)? |
| 02:01.28 | jblack | mace: I meant redirect=no |
| 02:01.38 | mace | redirect is sip only, isn't it? |
| 02:01.40 | Katty | jblack: not saying that you're a bad dad. |
| 02:02.22 | jblack | Hey, she went from athletic and a 3.9 GPA to borderline obese and a 2.5 GPA. |
| 02:02.32 | jblack | I think I was a great dad. :) |
| 02:03.23 | jblack | anyways, I don't wanna talk about that. |
| 02:03.27 | Katty | k |
| 02:03.29 | jblack | Let's talk about dogs. Or ferrits. |
| 02:03.37 | jblack | ferrets. Or phone systems. |
| 02:03.52 | jblack | wonders if there's any youtube videos of ferrets eating phone systems |
| 02:04.50 | jblack | Katty: Oh, found your facebook page |
| 02:05.07 | mace | Jckf: doubtful; might be a 3rd party add on that does it now, but there wasn't anything when i last looked a while back |
| 02:05.24 | Katty | jblack: well don't share it here. |
| 02:05.30 | mace | mind you * barely supported video at all back then </reminiscing> |
| 02:05.35 | Jckf | mace: Sad. Do you know of anything else that does it? |
| 02:05.50 | jblack | of course not |
| 02:06.02 | Katty | k |
| 02:06.33 | jblack | btw, the dns for the website you list at youtube doesn't resolve |
| 02:06.43 | Carlos_PHX | Jckf: I don't know of any phones that support that. |
| 02:06.47 | Carlos_PHX | Do you? |
| 02:06.47 | Katty | dydns is probably snickerdoodled up |
| 02:06.49 | Katty | it does that a lot |
| 02:07.05 | Jckf | Carlos_PHX: I'm only going to be using computer clients |
| 02:07.32 | Carlos_PHX | Ah, sounds interesting. I just asked our video person and she says, "I wish." |
| 02:07.33 | cherva | anyone willing to answer me if asterisk can lookup the extensions like he looksup his sip trunks ? |
| 02:08.36 | russellb | parse error on question |
| 02:09.14 | jblack | russellb: I gave up on him awhile ago. |
| 02:09.42 | russellb | never gonna give you up, never gonna ..... |
| 02:10.26 | jblack | I get paid tonight! |
| 02:10.40 | jblack | gives his phone a nasty look |
| 02:12.11 | *** part/#asterisk Jckf (n=Jckf@2002:5997:d766:666:f4dc:e9d0:2d17:46bc) |
| 02:12.28 | mace | Carlos_PHX: grandstream do video handsets |
| 02:12.43 | jblack | mace: You use grandstream? |
| 02:12.51 | mace | and handset -> handset calls worked when i tried them |
| 02:13.02 | mace | jblack: yes and no ;) |
| 02:13.19 | jblack | I've heard so many bad things about grandstream that I've thought of getting one to see that it's not really _that_ bad |
| 02:13.41 | mace | they're a classic case of getting what you pay for |
| 02:13.55 | mace | i did a rollout of ~ 80 handsets |
| 02:14.09 | mace | by and large, they worked |
| 02:14.33 | mace | there was the occasional issue, but we found solutions |
| 02:14.40 | cherva | russellb: I just want to make a phone connect to my asterisk witch is in my internal network and the phone is outside of that network.... I am thinking of a way to make a reverse connection (make asterisk connect to the phone), redirecting ports from my external ip to my internal ip is NOT an option |
| 02:15.12 | mace | cherva: what you're asking for sounds pretty hard to achieve, at best |
| 02:16.12 | mace | cherva: if your nat is correctly handling outgoing sip connections, you could try setting up a sip connection for your handset with keepalive etc on |
| 02:16.45 | mace | even then, though, i've a feeling that trying to make calls from the handset wouldn't work |
| 02:18.10 | cherva | mace: so I have to redirect ports from the firewall to my asterisk in order to make the phones to connect |
| 02:18.37 | cherva | mace: is port 5060 enough or I have to redirect more ? |
| 02:19.27 | jblack | for sip, 5060 and the port range specified in /etc/asterisk/rtp.conf |
| 02:20.47 | mace | whats the general consensus for good handsets/manufacturers? |
| 02:21.01 | mace | grandstream i've already talked about |
| 02:21.26 | cherva | jblack: I wanted to make this machine hidden from the outside world I was thinking about vpn or something in order to skip the port forwarding part |
| 02:21.28 | mace | this siemens c460 is ok, but then it's wireless so it's not a direct comparison with wired |
| 02:21.36 | jblack | mace: polycom has a good reputation. |
| 02:21.48 | mace | played with linksys but it was mostly proprietory |
| 02:22.17 | mace | jblack: we had a few of their ip soundstations, they were slow as hell to boot up and a bit of a pita to configure |
| 02:22.45 | mace | audio was up to the usual polycom standard |
| 02:22.49 | jblack | cherva: Then learn how to run a firewall so taht ports are only opened to specific ips. Or start setting up your own vpns. But keep me out of it, because I honestly don't think you have the skillset. |
| 02:23.10 | jblack | mace: How often do you boot up a phone? semi annually? |
| 02:23.33 | mace | jblack: these ones had a habit of moving around meeting rooms :) |
| 02:23.47 | mace | jblack: do they do handsets too? |
| 02:23.51 | mace | hasn't looked |
| 02:23.54 | jblack | Yes, they do. |
| 02:24.26 | jblack | if you're company is so short of funds that you can't even afford enough phones... Then you need to got work someplace else. Today. |
| 02:24.58 | mace | jblack: as it happens, i don't work for them anymore, they've been going through death throes |
| 02:25.17 | jblack | so you figured you'd waste my time over a carcass? |
| 02:25.21 | jblack | Gee. Thanks |
| 02:25.24 | mace | hm? |
| 02:25.57 | mace | the iax issue is with my own servers |
| 02:26.21 | mace | and asking for handset recommendations are ditto |
| 02:26.43 | jblack | I'm just losing track. Don't mind me. |
| 02:27.03 | mace | when i say 'is', i mean 'was', as the transfer=no thing seems to have solved it (or it just hasn't reoccurred yet). ta for that |
| 02:27.07 | jblack | I have some stuff going on here, and a certain other person put me in a bad mood. |
| 02:27.16 | mace | chuckles |
| 02:27.24 | jblack | Why do you keep saying transfer=no? It should be redirect=no |
| 02:27.45 | mace | because it says transfer=no in the manual, and in the config file |
| 02:27.53 | mace | redirect isn't mentioned anywhere |
| 02:28.47 | jblack | double checks |
| 02:28.53 | mace | too |
| 02:29.19 | mace | canreinvite=X is in sip.conf |
| 02:30.11 | Katty | hmm. |
| 02:30.15 | Katty | i do believe it's time for bed. |
| 02:30.23 | mace | night Katty |
| 02:30.25 | Maliuta | tucks Katty into bed |
| 02:30.36 | Maliuta | having just gotten out of his |
| 02:30.40 | Katty | cya guys in the morning (= |
| 02:31.48 | jblack | In iax.conf it's transfer. |
| 02:31.58 | jblack | night katty. |
| 02:32.21 | jblack | and yeah, sip.conf it's canreinvite |
| 02:32.30 | jblack | sorry mace. |
| 02:32.41 | jblack | Or not sorry, depending upon your satisfaction level. |
| 02:33.20 | mace | jblack: i'm indifferent, it's late :) |
| 02:33.54 | Maliuta | the biggest evil in the world is the indifference of mediocre men! |
| 02:34.00 | Maliuta | ;) |
| 02:34.10 | jblack | mace: Are you mediocre? |
| 02:34.11 | mace | now i just need to work out whether i can get a normal UK style ringing tone when dialing out |
| 02:34.19 | mace | jblack: i doubt many would describe me that way |
| 02:34.28 | jblack | mace: Look at indications.conf for that. |
| 02:34.39 | mace | jblack: yeah, been through that |
| 02:34.41 | jblack | poitns at Maliuta |
| 02:35.05 | Maliuta | I used to feck about with indications ... now I just enjoy watching the confusion on the faces of people using my system |
| 02:35.12 | mace | heh |
| 02:35.41 | Maliuta | but I'm also the guy with a script to prank people with tt-monkeys |
| 02:36.00 | mace | i've a feeling that the indications aren't being looked at because i'm not terminating any calls directly onto ISDN/POTS |
| 02:36.10 | mace | Maliuta: ah the fun |
| 02:36.32 | Maliuta | fun to do at work when they're on the other side of the cube farm and can see you're just typing like normal |
| 02:37.11 | mace | whilst a new server room was being built at $defunct_employer and it didn't yet have a door, manglement had a habit of wandering in there to talk on their phones |
| 02:37.30 | mace | at this point we had a handful of servers in there and some compaq ipaqs running linux |
| 02:37.36 | jblack | You're one of those fun guys that temporarily and randomly firewalls internal ips via crontab. |
| 02:37.58 | Maliuta | jblack: not at work |
| 02:38.01 | mace | so i just logged into the ipaqs whilst they were in there and started piping /bin/bash to /dev/dsp |
| 02:38.08 | mace | never seen the buggers move so fast |
| 02:38.12 | Maliuta | jblack: I just mess with squid ACL's ;P |
| 02:38.28 | jblack | I think it's bedtime for me. Night all. |
| 02:38.31 | mace | night jblack |
| 02:38.39 | jblack | I might be back later, depending on who's around |
| 02:38.46 | jblack | Or more appropriately, who's not. :P |
| 02:38.54 | mace | if i'm still around, something is wrong :) |
| 02:39.11 | mace | would like to get this ringtone thing sorted though |
| 02:39.15 | Maliuta | ahhh for the days when most kernels didn't have protection on /dev/mem and you could make someone halt their system with cat |
| 02:40.01 | jblack | yeah. definitely later. |
| 02:40.05 | mace | jblack: :) |
| 02:40.22 | mace | Maliuta: i used to work with some media types who had g4 macs |
| 02:40.39 | mace | being macs, they tended to make annoying noises all the time |
| 02:40.45 | jblack | mace: You though, good luck. I really do think indications is what you want. failing that, you could use the r and M option to dial, and do musiconhold for dialing. |
| 02:40.52 | mace | so i stayed late one night and disconnected all the speakers |
| 02:41.01 | mace | there was mayhem the next day ;) |
| 02:41.24 | Maliuta | lol |
| 02:41.27 | mace | jblack: will do some reading |
| 02:41.32 | Maliuta | goes to clean the kitchen :( |
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| 02:42.02 | jblack | not M, I think that's macro.. there's a musiconhold option though. you'll find it in show application dial |
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| 02:47.28 | mace | jblack: will have a look, ta |
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| 02:59.02 | mace | dropping r from dial application seems to have had the desired effect |
| 02:59.04 | mace | happy days |
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| 03:07.20 | oilinki | hi there. I have broken asterisk server with Realtime and planing to do a reinstall. Now using 1.4, but thinking of using 1.6. What would be recommendation? |
| 03:11.42 | ChannelZ | read the changelog to figure out how it might affect your existing dialplan, and then test test test |
| 03:12.10 | oilinki | but if I start from the scratch? |
| 03:12.22 | ChannelZ | well then knock yourself out |
| 03:12.31 | oilinki | ? |
| 03:13.02 | ChannelZ | have fun reconfiguring. Same rules apply. |
| 03:13.29 | oilinki | but really. is the 1.6 more advanced or does it have more support/future than 1.4. |
| 03:13.46 | oilinki | my configuration is pretty simple and therefore I will be able to do the reconfig. |
| 03:14.28 | oilinki | and if I start from the bottom again, it would be the best to have a software which is better than the other. |
| 03:15.14 | ChannelZ | Did 1.4 do everything you needed it to do? |
| 03:16.20 | oilinki | in the way yes, but I did not check all the possibilities what it could actually do. I just did simple call forwarding. |
| 03:16.38 | ChannelZ | Then so will 1.6. |
| 03:16.48 | oilinki | but currently it does not work. and therefore I'm happy to replace the whole thing. |
| 03:17.03 | ChannelZ | Is newer always better? Not necessarily. But 1.4 is likely to be retired before 1.6 and on and on |
| 03:17.32 | oilinki | I do understand 'if it's not broken, don't fix it' :) |
| 03:18.04 | oilinki | but the thing is that I'm confused about the versions and their support. |
| 03:18.22 | oilinki | but ok. I'll go for 1.6. if it does not work, then go back to 1.4. |
| 03:18.45 | oilinki | thank you. |
| 03:19.14 | ChannelZ | My own personal inclination would be, if I was starting over, to run 1.6, which is not to say it may not have some bizzarre problem on your particular config. But that said, I'm running 1.4, it works, and otherwise have no specific desire to move to 1.6 because of some feature 1.4 is lacking |
| 03:19.33 | ChannelZ | My config is relatively simple as well, a small business with a dozen phones |
| 03:20.40 | oilinki | I'm using realtime which makes things more complicated than it should. I got it working once so I hope to be able to do it again.. :) if not, then I can just use the files. |
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| 03:43.04 | shin-shoryuken_ | Question for anyone knowledgeable about dahdi and MWI |
| 03:44.42 | shin-shoryuken_ | I have a server with 8 T1 spans configured as fxo_ks channels, none with mailboxes configured |
| 03:45.17 | shin-shoryuken_ | Yet I keep seeing 'mwi_send_thread' fired off by chan_dahdi's do_monitor |
| 03:45.31 | shin-shoryuken_ | Should it be sending MWI info even if there's no mailbox configured? |
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| 03:50.26 | ChannelZ | I've never noticed it but only have one FXO channel - what version of * and what verbosity level are you running at to see this? |
| 03:52.50 | shin-shoryuken_ | Running 1.6.1.6, running debug at 50. I've actually had two segfaults which pointed me to it. |
| 03:56.45 | russellb | update to the latest 1.6.1 code, i think that is fixed |
| 03:56.55 | russellb | svn co http://svn.digium.com/svn/asteirsk/branches/1.6.1 asterisk-1.6.1-svn |
| 03:57.13 | shin-shoryuken_ | I'll try that - thanks! |
| 03:57.55 | shin-shoryuken_ | Is there a bug report I can give feedback on, or anything like that? |
| 03:58.17 | ChannelZ | I'm seeing one for 1.6.1.0 so far |
| 03:59.29 | ChannelZ | https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15177 - maybe |
| 03:59.50 | russellb | i don't remember which bug it was |
| 04:00.04 | russellb | my in-brain bug database isn't too big :-) |
| 04:01.32 | shin-shoryuken_ | Seems to fit - the backtrace looks familiar. |
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| 04:08.35 | darkdrgn2k3 | hi i have a SPA-3102 connected to my asterisk box with a PSTN line |
| 04:08.39 | darkdrgn2k3 | can i access call waiting on it |
| 04:08.54 | darkdrgn2k3 | (when i hit flash it puts the other person on HOLD and gives me a tone) |
| 04:17.55 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: Why not? The device supports call waiting and so does Asterisk. |
| 04:20.06 | darkdrgn2k3 | p3nguin_: any idea how i go abuot usign it then? |
| 04:20.40 | p3nguin_ | You use it exactly as you described. |
| 04:21.17 | darkdrgn2k3 | p3nguin_: whatrs then.. press flash? |
| 04:21.27 | p3nguin_ | press flash or hold the "hook" down for like 40ms or something. |
| 04:21.45 | darkdrgn2k3 | so flash.. then hangup fo 1/2 a second |
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| 04:21.56 | p3nguin_ | That's not what I said. |
| 04:22.13 | darkdrgn2k3 | ooo |
| 04:22.14 | darkdrgn2k3 | ok |
| 04:22.21 | darkdrgn2k3 | if i press FLASH i put the call on hold |
| 04:22.25 | p3nguin_ | If you have flash, press it. |
| 04:22.40 | darkdrgn2k3 | once again ... it puts the call on hold |
| 04:22.48 | p3nguin_ | That's what it's supposed to do. |
| 04:22.50 | drmessano | Hook flash is broken in the latest SPA-3102 firmware |
| 04:23.03 | darkdrgn2k3 | ok how do i PICK UP the incomming call |
| 04:23.17 | p3nguin_ | If someone was calling, you would press the flash button. |
| 04:23.30 | darkdrgn2k3 | yes... and it does NOT pick up the incomming call |
| 04:23.35 | darkdrgn2k3 | jsut puts the existing called on hol |
| 04:23.36 | darkdrgn2k3 | d |
| 04:23.55 | drmessano | Hook flash is broken in the latest SPA-3102 firmware <---- |
| 04:23.58 | p3nguin_ | Maybe you can discuss it with drmessano. He seems to be in-the-know about a bug. |
| 04:24.00 | drmessano | Thats your answer |
| 04:24.20 | darkdrgn2k3 | i see |
| 04:24.31 | drmessano | Older firmwares have other issues, but hook flash works |
| 04:24.34 | darkdrgn2k3 | drmessano: 5.1.10(GW) ? |
| 04:24.38 | p3nguin_ | I've only had my 3102 for a short time, and I don't know if I ever had to use flash/callwaiting. |
| 04:25.17 | Defraz | has anyone connected asterisk via fxs or fxo to a Star Com paging and clock system in say a school? |
| 04:25.40 | drmessano | 5.1.10 not 5.1.1 right? |
| 04:29.36 | darkdrgn2k3 | 5.1.10(GW) |
| 04:29.56 | darkdrgn2k3 | whats double hook all about? |
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| 04:41.13 | darkdrgn2k3 | "ine 1 Signal Hook Flash To PSTN" |
| 04:42.56 | darkdrgn2k3 | ? |
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| 05:43.46 | shin-shoryuken_ | Another bug I've been banging my head against: |
| 05:44.36 | shin-shoryuken_ | When I first load 1.6.1.6, static queue members of type Dahdi always show up as 'invalid', and I have to manually reload app_queue.so to make the queue recognize them. |
| 05:46.12 | shin-shoryuken_ | Is that an issue with the order of loading? Is it addressed in the latest svn, or is there something I can do on my end to change the loading order so Dahdi comes all the way up before app_queue is loaded? |
| 05:49.34 | ChannelZ | See the example queue.conf - there is a note about this |
| 05:50.16 | ChannelZ | (yes it's the module order) |
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| 05:53.55 | shin-shoryuken_ | Ah - I'd missed that upgrading from 1.6.1.0 to 1.6.1.6. Thanks again! |
| 05:54.35 | ChannelZ | It applies to 1.4 too so it might have just been you were getting lucky before if it was working |
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| 05:57.00 | shin-shoryuken_ | Weird - almost wish I'd encountered it sooner, then. Should I specify both with 'load =>' statements in the order I need, or is it wiser to use a 'preload =>' for chan_dahdi.so? |
| 05:57.42 | ChannelZ | I would just load chan_dahdi (and any other channel drivers that might be in queues, if you have any) up top |
| 05:58.21 | ChannelZ | I'm not sure if all modules can be used with 'preload' or not |
| 05:59.19 | shin-shoryuken_ | Gotcha. Should I be explicit with app_queue.so? I don't see it listed currently, so I'm not sure where it would fall in the lineup.. |
| 06:01.36 | ChannelZ | if autoload is on it will get loaded |
| 06:01.43 | ChannelZ | but you can specify it if you like |
| 06:03.27 | ChannelZ | God I miss Sonique. Winamp is one ass-ugly app and 95% of the skins made for it are worse |
| 06:03.34 | shin-shoryuken_ | Sweet, that did the trick. Now if the system segfaults it won't knock queues out of circulation. Thanks again - these issues have been driving me up a wall for days. |
| 06:04.49 | shin-shoryuken_ | I don't know - I had a pretty great Megaman skin back in the day. I mean, it didn't LOOK good, but it was Megaman. |
| 06:06.14 | ChannelZ | !??! I accidentally closed the main window and now I have NO access to the UI?! |
| 06:10.03 | shin-shoryuken_ | ?? In Winamp? That's kinda insane. |
| 06:12.14 | ChannelZ | yeah |
| 06:12.26 | ChannelZ | I looked up the keyboard shortcuts and managed to open the main window again |
| 06:12.41 | ChannelZ | but skin changing isn't working, at least in windows 7 |
| 06:15.43 | shin-shoryuken_ | How's Win7 treating you so far? I've heard it's a step up from Vista, but that's not too hard to accomplish. |
| 06:24.13 | shin-shoryuken_ | Huh - upgraded to latest svn, and app_queue.so is doing the same thing as before with Dahdi channels. Should I be setting 'autoload=no' and specifiying things by hand? |
| 06:27.09 | ChannelZ | So far so good on 7 |
| 06:27.53 | ChannelZ | and yeah you can try turning off autoload but it might take you awhile to make sure you get everything you do need in there |
| 06:28.07 | ChannelZ | I mean you can try the preload on chan_dahdi and see if it barfs |
| 06:31.16 | shin-shoryuken_ | Preload seems to work alright. Guess I'll give it a few days and see. |
| 06:31.51 | shin-shoryuken_ | Time for sleep - thanks again for everything, and have a great night (day?). -mm |
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| 06:32.16 | ChannelZ | I would expect if it loaded the module and didn't complain it should be fine. I just wasn't sure if preload didn't have enough of the system running for certain modules or not, it's not really documented that I see |
| 06:36.39 | Thazza | Windows 7 kicks Vista arse into the mud. |
| 06:36.51 | Thazza | So much faster. |
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| 06:51.59 | ChannelZ | hmmmm.. the win7 taskbar seems to be in 'always on top' mode and I don't see where I can turn that off |
| 07:01.33 | kaldemar | format c: should still help with that, too. |
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| 07:09.31 | ChannelZ | har |
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| 07:30.53 | mahiti-irc | hi i am having asterisk 1.4 running in a centos5 machine |
| 07:31.16 | mahiti-irc | i am constructing an IVR |
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| 07:31.38 | mahiti-irc | but whatever input is given , its not branching |
| 07:31.51 | mahiti-irc | i mean to say input is not getting accepted |
| 07:32.00 | mahiti-irc | where could be the issue? |
| 07:33.49 | mahiti-irc | this is my dialplan http://pastebin.com/m51141273 |
| 07:34.05 | mahiti-irc | can anyone tell me what am i missing? |
| 07:35.23 | mahiti-irc | anybody alive here |
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| 07:37.20 | pif | hi, are beronet isdn cards supported by the latest dahdi? |
| 07:38.27 | phix | MEAL! |
| 07:48.59 | mahiti-irc | !help |
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| 07:51.43 | ChannelZ | what are you dialing in on? |
| 07:52.37 | mahiti-irc | oops sry forogot to metion |
| 07:52.47 | mahiti-irc | i am using a TE122 PRI card |
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| 07:53.29 | ChannelZ | but you're calling in on what |
| 07:53.49 | ChannelZ | just a POTS phone on one of the incoming lines? |
| 07:54.48 | ChannelZ | well I guess it doesn't matter, its probably not reading the DTMF anyway |
| 07:56.22 | mahiti-irc | ya no dtmf man |
| 07:56.38 | mahiti-irc | btw i am dialing out from the box to a mobile |
| 07:56.59 | ChannelZ | wouldn't that be the other way around |
| 07:57.04 | mahiti-irc | i get the call, get the menu played |
| 07:57.08 | mahiti-irc | but no dtmf |
| 07:57.41 | mahiti-irc | but i would like the dialout to work first |
| 07:58.12 | ChannelZ | you seem to have a hardware config problem but I can't help much, not dealt with PRI |
| 07:58.26 | ChannelZ | something in chan_dahdi anyhoo |
| 08:00.30 | mahiti-irc | oh |
| 08:00.42 | ChannelZ | your signalling=xxxx line perhaps |
| 08:01.10 | mahiti-irc | signalling=pri_cpe |
| 08:01.32 | mahiti-irc | anything strange in that? |
| 08:02.26 | mahiti-irc | brb |
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| 08:05.32 | ChannelZ | ?? like I said I have 0 experience with PRI connections |
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| 08:19.27 | twanny796 | any links to a euro isdn book? |
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| 08:22.36 | Get_The_Fish | anyone still watchin the room? Got me a question on subroutines in 1.6 |
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| 08:32.56 | AlHafoudh | hi all |
| 08:33.09 | Get_The_Fish | howdy |
| 08:34.10 | AlHafoudh | please, i would like to ask, i have 3 asterisks doing border sip trunk for avaya (translating sip to h323 singaling), how can i send that the sip trunk is down via h323 for avaya to know that singaling group is down to use other border asterisks |
| 08:34.15 | AlHafoudh | Get_The_Fish: fine :) thanks |
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| 08:37.00 | Get_The_Fish | no idea on avaya... I would ask avaya- if asterisk is down, it wouldnt send anything, right? |
| 08:45.54 | AlHafoudh | Get_The_Fish: well, i was thinking about some failoverish features of h323/sip |
| 08:46.11 | mahiti-irc | ChannelZ, can you forward to any whi knows abt PRI? |
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| 08:52.27 | keeper82 | hi, I installed * and dahdi for an openvox a400p. At start, if I try to make a call (move a file to /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing), * thinks the line is not connected but, I if call the line with another phone then * can make the call |
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| 08:54.09 | keeper82 | the card is connected with 3 pstn lines and when I tried it in another place the line worked fine. Could it be a problem with the new lines? |
| 08:54.55 | radovan | merry christmas :) |
| 08:59.52 | keeper82 | another question: when making an outgoing call, is there a way to know when the other phone answered? |
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| 09:00.23 | keeper82 | I need to play a wav exactly after the other phone answered |
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| 09:17.43 | AlHafoudh | please anyone can help? |
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| 09:23.02 | angryuser | AlHafoudh, "how can i send that the sip trunk is down via h323 for avaya to know that singaling group is down to use other border asterisks" i dont understant what you want |
| 09:23.12 | angryuser | understand* |
| 09:23.38 | angryuser | AlHafoudh, explain better please |
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| 09:24.43 | AlHafoudh | angryuser: ok, 3 asterisks are doing sip gateway for one avaya system over h323, i need somehow to notify avaya about some sip connection outage to tell avaya not to send calls to the failed asterisk |
| 09:26.46 | angryuser | AlHafoudh, ok, you can use sipsak to check if asterisk is up or not, imagine yourself a way to notify avaya |
| 09:27.46 | AlHafoudh | angryuser: isnt there a way how to notify it by h323? |
| 09:27.55 | kaldemar | forget about it. |
| 09:28.24 | AlHafoudh | isnt there asome failover mechanism? |
| 09:28.39 | kaldemar | you can make calls from asterisk via h.323. that's about it. the rest is up to your avaya system. |
| 09:28.56 | angryuser | AlHafoudh, this question concern avaya |
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| 09:30.07 | kaldemar | if you want some failover in asterisk, you do it in the dialplan. the protocols don't offer you some magical failover feature in this case. |
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| 09:33.22 | AlHafoudh | ok, can i get sip registration status in dialplan? |
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| 09:38.26 | Get_The_Fish | why would that be helpful to you AlHafoudh? How would that tell avaya that asterisk is down? Avaya is the one that needs to be making the decision. It sends a SIP packet out, and doesnt receive a response, then the host is down |
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| 09:39.07 | Get_The_Fish | asterisk uses SIP OPTIONS packets to test a peer, perhaps avaya has something similar. |
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| 09:41.16 | kaldemar | AlHafoudh: yes you can |
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| 10:59.44 | mahiti-irc | hi i am having asterisk 1.4 running in a centos5 machine with TE122 pri card |
| 11:00.02 | mahiti-irc | when i do a dialout, i get the call, get the ivr menu played |
| 11:00.14 | mahiti-irc | but the dtmf ie input is not working |
| 11:00.48 | mahiti-irc | can anyone help me out on this |
| 11:02.59 | dlynes | I'm guessing when you're using the g729 and t38 modules that they will be evenly split amongst all the cpus by the linux scheduler, for the most part right? |
| 11:03.24 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: try relaxdtmf=yes |
| 11:03.43 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: I found I needed to use that option more often than not on my sangoma pri cards |
| 11:04.06 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, in zapata.conf? |
| 11:04.10 | mahiti-irc | oh |
| 11:04.20 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: yes |
| 11:04.29 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: or whatever the new dahdi equivalent is |
| 11:05.34 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: I've even needed it the odd time in sip.conf lately for really problematic internet connections |
| 11:05.49 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, oh |
| 11:06.22 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: but I think the reason the off value exists for it, is to reduce false positives |
| 11:06.29 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, but in sip.conf its already there |
| 11:06.45 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: it's just that on a pri, I don't think you're ever going to get those false positives |
| 11:07.27 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, i dont get ur idea? |
| 11:07.38 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: with some sip devices though, it's quite common...such as any of the Sipura analog devices |
| 11:07.56 | mahiti-irc | oh |
| 11:08.12 | mahiti-irc | also this is set to "dtmfmode = rfc2833" |
| 11:08.19 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: just add the entry 'relaxdtmf=yes' to your zapata.conf file, and then redo ztcfg -vvvvvvvvvv, and then restart asterisk |
| 11:08.19 | mahiti-irc | is that fine? |
| 11:08.55 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: there's no such thing as 'dtmfmode' option for zapata.conf |
| 11:09.04 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: that's a sip option |
| 11:09.46 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, nope its not working, its getting timed out |
| 11:09.58 | mahiti-irc | time out wating for input |
| 11:10.01 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: wha'ts getting timed out? |
| 11:10.30 | mahiti-irc | i will give u the debug |
| 11:11.26 | mahiti-irc | http://pastebin.com/m5ca34861 |
| 11:11.57 | mahiti-irc | and this is my dialplan http://pastebin.com/m51141273 |
| 11:12.50 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, did u see the prob? |
| 11:14.16 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, u there man? |
| 11:14.21 | war9407 | I have a question, why does one need to specify an e-mail address in voicemail.conf if its ignored anyway? It seems to be taken from users.conf. |
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| 11:18.33 | xrmx__ | war9407, it is not ignored here :) |
| 11:19.25 | fnbrier | I installed Asterisk, but am now looking for documentation on setting up a Skype gateway. |
| 11:19.26 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, r u busy man? |
| 11:20.08 | fnbrier | I saw a posting from September 25th 2008 that said Skype was going to provide official support for Asterisk. |
| 11:21.06 | war9407 | xrmx__: hum |
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| 11:21.16 | fnbrier | And the AsteriskNow lists a Skype Gateway... But I cannot google or find any doc on installation/setup/configuration of the gateway. |
| 11:21.29 | war9407 | xrmx__: or you have the users.conf email addr set the same as voicemail.conf |
| 11:21.32 | war9407 | xrmx__: so you don't notice? |
| 11:21.44 | xrmx__ | war9407, nope i have more than one user |
| 11:22.17 | war9407 | xrmx__: asterisk 1.6? |
| 11:22.23 | xrmx__ | war9407, 1.4 |
| 11:22.36 | war9407 | ah that explains it |
| 11:22.40 | fnbrier | Anyone online that knows how where the doc might live? |
| 11:22.41 | war9407 | used to work OK in 1.4 I believe |
| 11:25.48 | mahiti-irc | ok how to diagnose a DTMF issue in asterisk, anyone knows? |
| 11:25.56 | kaldemar | fnbrier: http://www.digium.com/en/products/software/skypeforasterisk.php |
| 11:28.29 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: sorry |
| 11:28.42 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: was busy installing 1.6.1.8 in another window |
| 11:28.52 | mahiti-irc | oh no probs |
| 11:29.28 | mahiti-irc | i was just in a hurry to finish this issue today |
| 11:29.49 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: can you pastebin your zapata.conf file? |
| 11:29.59 | mahiti-irc | k w8 |
| 11:30.48 | mahiti-irc | here it is http://pastebin.com/m5ea1d567 |
| 11:35.15 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: are you using a T1 or an E1? |
| 11:35.38 | mahiti-irc | T1 |
| 11:35.56 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: why do you have 30 B channels configured, then? |
| 11:36.32 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: and why is your D channel configured on channel #16? |
| 11:36.55 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: a normal PRI-T1 is configured as 23 B channels, and a D channel on channel #24 |
| 11:37.22 | mahiti-irc | why is that wrong dude? |
| 11:37.32 | mahiti-irc | oh |
| 11:37.34 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: because a T1 only has 24 channels |
| 11:37.41 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: an E1 has 31 channels |
| 11:38.10 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: What country are you in? |
| 11:38.20 | mahiti-irc | India |
| 11:38.30 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: and India is using T1's, not E1's? |
| 11:38.42 | mahiti-irc | oh ok |
| 11:38.56 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: so, you don't know what you have, then? |
| 11:39.13 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, do u mean that this can make DTMF non working? |
| 11:39.30 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: well, if you're trying to dial out on a non-existent channel, yes |
| 11:39.41 | mahiti-irc | oh i c |
| 11:39.43 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: if you're trying to dial out on a pri that is not talking to the other end, yes |
| 11:40.06 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: there's any number of reasons a pri won't work |
| 11:40.12 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, then should i reconfigure it to 23? |
| 11:40.21 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: there's a lot more to a pri than there is to a single analog line |
| 11:40.23 | mahiti-irc | ok |
| 11:41.08 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: I don't even know if you have the signalling configured correctly |
| 11:41.16 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: so at this point I'm going to say I can't help you any further |
| 11:41.43 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: You're going to need someone familiar with T1's in India and your particular phone company at that before you'll be able to get anywhere further |
| 11:42.06 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, let me sayu something, this asterisk box was configured on a pay basis by a asterisk specialist. |
| 11:42.14 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: You might try coppice if he's around...he seems to be familiar with PIR signalling around the world |
| 11:42.16 | mahiti-irc | we thought everythings fine |
| 11:42.21 | dlynes | s/PIR/PRI/ |
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| 11:43.03 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: so, if it's configured by an asterisk specialist, why isn't it working? |
| 11:43.26 | mahiti-irc | he refuses to look into it again |
| 11:43.40 | mahiti-irc | he says it was working when he configured the box |
| 11:43.42 | ppc | probably because he thinks he is so special |
| 11:43.48 | mahiti-irc | yup |
| 11:43.53 | ppc | I have an idea |
| 11:44.00 | mahiti-irc | ya? |
| 11:44.02 | ppc | Have him come look at the box and offer to pay him with a check |
| 11:44.06 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: either he's not an asterisk specialist like he claims |
| 11:44.08 | ppc | but cancel the check when he leaves! |
| 11:44.19 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: or you've screwed something up, but don't want to admit it to us :) |
| 11:44.31 | mahiti-irc | ppc, thw worst thing is payment is already made |
| 11:44.31 | ppc | dlynes: noooooooooooooooo that didn't happen! |
| 11:44.48 | ppc | mahiti-irc: so you are in india right now? |
| 11:44.54 | mahiti-irc | yup |
| 11:45.01 | ppc | And you are Indian? |
| 11:45.10 | mahiti-irc | obviously |
| 11:45.19 | ppc | Well, not everyone in India is Indian |
| 11:45.22 | dlynes | chuckles. |
| 11:45.28 | dlynes | Mother Theresa wasn't Indian |
| 11:45.32 | mahiti-irc | well i am in Indian |
| 11:45.49 | ppc | Oh ok well then I'll take an order of na'an and the lamb curry with rice |
| 11:46.00 | mahiti-irc | o_O |
| 11:46.02 | ppc | haha |
| 11:46.11 | mahiti-irc | very funny |
| 11:46.13 | ppc | mahiti-irc: That was my attempt at humor |
| 11:46.19 | ppc | mahiti-irc: What's it like in India? |
| 11:46.26 | ppc | btw I love Indian food |
| 11:46.31 | mahiti-irc | now, its rainy |
| 11:46.37 | mahiti-irc | oh cool |
| 11:46.51 | mahiti-irc | guys can we concentrate on the topic? |
| 11:46.53 | dlynes | ppc: yeah...I miss Vancouver....all the delicious Chinese, Indian and Bombay food |
| 11:47.08 | dlynes | sighs. |
| 11:47.14 | ppc | mahiti-irc: so how did you get a screwed up asterisk box to begin with? |
| 11:47.16 | ppc | Someone |
| 11:47.25 | ppc | someone "configured it" then it didn't work ever? |
| 11:47.46 | mahiti-irc | nope the thing he showed us the call in and call out |
| 11:47.55 | mahiti-irc | but no one thought of checking DTMF |
| 11:48.02 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: and so why isn't it working now? |
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| 11:48.13 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: i don't even see a call working, much less dtmf |
| 11:48.17 | ppc | I've heard dtmf can be a PITA |
| 11:48.33 | mahiti-irc | dlynes, it works means i get the menu played |
| 11:48.39 | mahiti-irc | but not the DTMF |
| 11:48.44 | ppc | dlynes: you logged in? |
| 11:49.03 | dlynes | ppc: no...I'm looking at his pastebins |
| 11:49.18 | coppice | India doesn't use T1s. It uses E1s, mostly with either EuroISDN or MFC/R2 signalling |
| 11:49.22 | dlynes | ppc: I never ask for login access, unless there's something I think I can't solve by looking at pastebins |
| 11:49.41 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: there's your answer...coppice is here yay :) |
| 11:49.48 | ppc | maybe I should just sit in this channel and try to resolve issues for people building my asterisk knowledge |
| 11:50.13 | mahiti-irc | so then whats the cause of DTMF issue? |
| 11:50.17 | ppc | haha |
| 11:50.19 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: fwiw, coppice is pretty much a pri expert |
| 11:50.24 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: not to mention faxing |
| 11:50.31 | mahiti-irc | yo coppice |
| 11:51.14 | mahiti-irc | so what now? |
| 11:51.28 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: wait until the boss comes in, and prepare to be caned |
| 11:51.52 | mahiti-irc | raises his eyebrows |
| 11:52.08 | dlynes | caned == whipped |
| 11:52.16 | mahiti-irc | got it |
| 11:52.37 | coppice | I'm fairly sure not everyone in India will be Indian next week. I'll be there. |
| 11:53.21 | mahiti-irc | whoa really? |
| 11:54.01 | ppc | and since india is so small i'm sure he will be able to stop by and fix your problem for you for a small fee! |
| 11:54.15 | coppice | well, its a long way to go for lunch, but you can't beat a really authentic Indian curry |
| 11:54.20 | ppc | hha |
| 11:54.29 | ppc | coppice: I LOVE the food |
| 11:54.32 | mahiti-irc | oh then u r welcome to Bangalore |
| 11:55.17 | coppice | south Indian is good, but I'll probably drop by Delhi and Jaipur for some northern cuisine, too |
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| 11:55.49 | mahiti-irc | bglore is a cosmopolitan city, u wud get all the cuisines here |
| 11:55.58 | ppc | coppice: what are you doing in India? |
| 11:56.47 | coppice | cosmopolitan == hardly anyone who lives there was born there |
| 11:57.02 | mahiti-irc | absolutely right |
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| 11:57.32 | coppice | bangalore used to be a nice place to visit. now its a sort of huge traffic jam |
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| 11:57.44 | mahiti-irc | i second that |
| 11:57.48 | ppc | mahiti-irc: sounds like to me you should get the person who set it up and do some head cracking |
| 11:57.57 | dlynes | Has the g729a codec not been rebuilt for asterisk 1.6.1.8? |
| 11:59.54 | mahiti-irc | ppc, you think so but no its too late now |
| 12:00.00 | mahiti-irc | :( |
| 12:00.12 | dlynes | I'm getting the following error after upgrading from 1.4.26.2 to 1.6.1.8 (I upgraded the g729 codec file as well): Error loading module 'codec_g729a.so': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/codec_g729a.so: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied |
| 12:00.32 | ppc | uh oh, you did it now |
| 12:00.49 | dlynes | yeah...no kidding |
| 12:01.03 | dlynes | That's why you should always start an upgrade with a backup, when it comes to asterisk |
| 12:01.24 | ppc | It's probably broken beyond all repair, better send the server to me and just buy a new one |
| 12:01.44 | dlynes | ppc: I'll get right on that |
| 12:01.54 | ppc | heh |
| 12:02.06 | ppc | dlynes: what are you using asterisk for exclty? |
| 12:02.19 | dlynes | ppc: for routing calls and voicemail |
| 12:02.26 | dlynes | ppc: like everybody else on the planet :) |
| 12:02.43 | dlynes | ppc: what exactly are you asking? |
| 12:02.49 | ppc | dlynes: I meant what kind of setup |
| 12:03.25 | ppc | like you work in an office, a business you own, consulting for this stuff? |
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| 12:04.59 | dlynes | ppc: I work for a small ITSP |
| 12:05.20 | dlynes | ppc: I'm a subcontractor, and we provide analog phone lines into care homes |
| 12:06.02 | dlynes | ppc: so, it gets delivered via iax2 to the telephone closet, and then via analog to the resident rooms |
| 12:06.28 | ppc | what are care homes, like old people homes? |
| 12:06.34 | dlynes | ppc: exactly |
| 12:06.52 | dlynes | ppc: care homes, homes for the aged, nursing homes, assisted living, respite care, ... |
| 12:07.16 | ppc | that's an interesting place to specify |
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| 12:07.46 | dlynes | ppc: it was 3:30am, west coast time when I started, so I have enough buffer room to get everything back online on the old version in case I continue to have issues with this codec issue |
| 12:07.49 | ppc | dlynes: I have to ask, why don't these people simply have pots lines? |
| 12:08.07 | dlynes | ppc: because if they did, the ILEC would be making money, not us |
| 12:08.10 | dlynes | duh |
| 12:08.12 | dlynes | :) |
| 12:08.48 | dlynes | ppc: any of the new facilities we go into, the ILEC is not allowed into |
| 12:08.48 | ppc | well I get that but it seems like it would cost more money to have servers and support people and bandwidth over just installing some lines? |
| 12:08.55 | mahiti-irc | so is the boss around here? |
| 12:08.59 | dlynes | ppc: hell, no |
| 12:09.25 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: the boss? You mean the guy that's going to whip you in about a couple of hours if your pri's not working? |
| 12:09.30 | ppc | haha |
| 12:09.45 | ppc | dlynes: you in cali? |
| 12:09.50 | mahiti-irc | nope not taht guy |
| 12:09.54 | dlynes | ppc: nah...Ontario |
| 12:10.00 | ppc | ahh |
| 12:10.02 | dlynes | ppc: Most of our care homes are in BC |
| 12:10.09 | ppc | Always wanted to go to Canada |
| 12:10.25 | dlynes | ppc: Yeah...way better than Detroit, Cleveland, or Indianapolis |
| 12:10.31 | ppc | I'm sure it is |
| 12:10.44 | ppc | I wouldn't want to live in any of those places |
| 12:10.49 | dlynes | ppc: Although...Cleveland's actually starting to look a whole hell of a lot better than Detroit or Indianapolis |
| 12:11.11 | dlynes | ppc: I own property in Indy...regretted it ever since I bought it |
| 12:11.44 | dlynes | ppc: Still....nowhere near as bad as the motor city |
| 12:11.52 | moos3 | does anyone have a good way of using hylafax and Imap mailbox to do email to fax/ |
| 12:12.14 | dlynes | ppc: This past weekend, there was 300 pages of real estate being auctioned off by the county in detroit for tax sales |
| 12:12.33 | ppc | dlynes: yeah i've seen some crazy prices for homes there for lots of like 100 or something |
| 12:12.37 | ppc | 15 bucks a piece |
| 12:12.46 | dlynes | ppc: it's estimated the vacant property in detroit encompasses an area the size of boston |
| 12:12.58 | dlynes | ppc: and that estimate was done by the detroit free press |
| 12:13.00 | ppc | It's to the point where artists are buying homes in detroit and using them for art |
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| 12:13.21 | dlynes | ppc: and as bad as detroit is |
| 12:13.30 | ppc | U S A U S A U S A ! ! ! ! |
| 12:13.31 | dlynes | ppc: windsor's pretty bad, too...but still nothing like detroit |
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| 12:14.00 | dlynes | moos3: what does imap have to do with sending mail? |
| 12:14.02 | ppc | dlynes: so basically you just get a contract with xyz home and they say ok give us phone service? |
| 12:14.16 | dlynes | ppc: something along those lines, yeah |
| 12:14.32 | dlynes | ppc: but we get that contract with them before the facility is built |
| 12:14.40 | ppc | makes sense |
| 12:14.48 | dlynes | before telus has a chance to get in |
| 12:15.05 | ppc | dlynes: so you have them wired up for like T1's or something? |
| 12:15.12 | dlynes | ppc: nope...sip trunks |
| 12:15.28 | moos3 | dlynes: I have to be able to email a account and then have it fax |
| 12:15.32 | mahiti-irc | coppice quit ?? |
| 12:15.41 | ppc | dlynes: well yeah but you gotta have some kind of local bandwidth right? |
| 12:15.44 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: he just gave up on you, i think |
| 12:15.52 | mahiti-irc | :(( |
| 12:15.59 | mahiti-irc | why this happens only to me? |
| 12:16.01 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: or maybe he was in long enough to let you know you had an E1 and not a T1 |
| 12:16.10 | dlynes | mahiti-irc: coppice is a pretty busy guy |
| 12:16.25 | mahiti-irc | ya i thought so |
| 12:16.25 | dlynes | ppc: correct |
| 12:16.37 | ppc | dlynes: so how many people require how much bandwidth? |
| 12:17.00 | dlynes | ppc: you might have as many as 3 or 4 old people in a an 80 unit care facility using the phone at once |
| 12:17.02 | ppc | i would assume people who have nothing to do probably spend a lot of time on the phone |
| 12:17.11 | dlynes | ppc: so it doesn't even come close to filling up an adsl line |
| 12:17.26 | dlynes | ppc: old people are surprisingly active |
| 12:17.37 | moos3 | does anyone do email to fax? |
| 12:17.48 | ppc | moos3: i'm sure a service exists |
| 12:17.49 | moos3 | thats the only part I dont have working |
| 12:17.58 | ppc | who is still using fax though? |
| 12:18.05 | moos3 | it should be able to be done with hylafax right? |
| 12:18.15 | moos3 | gov and colleges are |
| 12:18.15 | ppc | I have no idea, I know nothing about fax |
| 12:18.28 | ppc | Yeah, they also have "email" right? |
| 12:18.29 | dlynes | moos3: yes, but you use smtp for outbound |
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| 12:18.30 | ppc | and a printer? |
| 12:18.58 | moos3 | dlynes: i have it setup now to send email on recieving of the fax |
| 12:18.59 | dlynes | moos3: and I usually use hylafax's windows print interface to print the job to asterisk, not email |
| 12:19.22 | moos3 | dlynes your talking th samba printer? |
| 12:19.26 | dlynes | moos3: emailing the fax job is too cumbersome |
| 12:19.33 | moos3 | k |
| 12:19.33 | dlynes | moos3: correct |
| 12:19.54 | ppc | dlynes: so as an ITSP do you guys have your own service you sell or do you contract though an online provider? |
| 12:20.06 | dlynes | ppc: we have our own |
| 12:20.19 | dlynes | ppc: and the care facility sells it for us to their residents for a cut of the profit |
| 12:20.41 | ppc | whats it cost? |
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| 12:21.10 | ManxPower-work | ~answers |
| 12:21.11 | infobot | i guess answers is Asterisk Book: http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org & SIP w/ NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 & Wiki: http://www.voip-info.org & docs: /path/to/src/asterisk/doc & 1.4 .vs. 1.6.0 .vs. 1.6.1: : /path/to/src/asterisk/UPGRADE*.txt |
| 12:21.21 | dlynes | ppc: no idea...I don't manage that end |
| 12:21.28 | dlynes | ppc: I'm the techie :) |
| 12:21.45 | ppc | dlynes: sounds like a cool job |
| 12:21.47 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: who was that for? |
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| 12:22.30 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: "just because" obviously |
| 12:23.01 | dlynes | ppc: it's ok...but, my wife and I are trying to find investment properties currently so that we don't have to rely on others for our income |
| 12:23.08 | ppc | [TK]D-Fender: you don't happen to know tae kwon do do you? |
| 12:23.14 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: i guess it's a trigger for him |
| 12:23.28 | ppc | dlynes: yeah, that's a good idea |
| 12:23.34 | ppc | dlynes: you could start your own ITSP |
| 12:23.41 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: anyone that needs it |
| 12:23.42 | [TK]D-Fender | ppc: No, I study Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu |
| 12:23.47 | dlynes | ppc: well, no |
| 12:24.13 | ppc | [TK]D-Fender: Is that from street fighter alpha? |
| 12:24.13 | dlynes | ppc: what i've thought about is when we start buying high rises that I could have a phone company that only exists for that one building |
| 12:24.41 | ppc | dlynes: seems like one of those things that wouldn't scale very well |
| 12:24.44 | dlynes | hrm...guess mahiti-irc left |
| 12:24.54 | dlynes | ppc: why's that? |
| 12:24.55 | [TK]D-Fender | ppc: No, its from 14th century Japan, not some new peasant art :p |
| 12:24.56 | ppc | dlynes: maybe it was tea time |
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| 12:25.17 | ppc | dlynes: well, certainly it's a good idea to sell that service to many businesses, as many as you could |
| 12:25.23 | ppc | dlynes: but only for one building? |
| 12:25.34 | dlynes | ppc: It would be a value add/turnkey for the landlord as a revenue generator |
| 12:25.39 | ppc | dlynes: You are going to have to admin it, and have sla contracts and deal with payments and blah blahblah |
| 12:25.45 | dlynes | ppc: increases the value of their building |
| 12:25.52 | ppc | That's true but at what cost? |
| 12:25.54 | dlynes | ppc: offload the admin onto a third party company |
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| 12:26.09 | dlynes | ppc: have the landlord bill the tenants |
| 12:26.22 | ppc | dlynes: just seems like it would be easier to simply outsource it like your company does now and sell the service at a profit to the tenants |
| 12:26.33 | dlynes | ppc: the landlord would have it paid for 2 to 3 years |
| 12:27.01 | [Outcast] | anyone know of any of softphones that accept the URL option from the Dial command? |
| 12:27.08 | dlynes | ppc: 2 to 3 year lease purchase program |
| 12:27.12 | ManxPower-work | The problem is that all these "building phone companies" are there to rip off users by charging most than the telco -- this is especially true of the building blocks the telco from providing service. |
| 12:27.35 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: capitalism all the way baby |
| 12:27.54 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: It's only capitalism if the users have a choice in telcos |
| 12:28.00 | ppc | ManxPower-work: I wouldn't call it a ripoff, perhaps a smaller company is able to meet needs a large one can't |
| 12:28.53 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: anyways...we're charging less than the ILEC, so it's not an issue |
| 12:28.56 | ppc | Do you think ATT would come into your 10 person business and for a reasonable price setup an entire pbx and link up a future branch for a reasonable price? |
| 12:29.00 | ManxPower-work | ppc: as long as users have a choice in telcos then I don't have an issue with it. |
| 12:29.38 | dlynes | ppc: reasonable means at $150/hr, right? |
| 12:29.40 | ppc | I dont see a problem with having only one provider if that provider is regulated heavily |
| 12:29.57 | ManxPower-work | ppc: that provider is called Verizon/BellSouth/ATT |
| 12:31.39 | ManxPower-work | In most places in the USA telco does have a right to provide service to a building, even if the building management doesn't want to allow them to. That is good. |
| 12:31.46 | dlynes | Has anyone that's using the g729 codec from Digium upgraded to 1.6.1.8 yet? |
| 12:32.17 | ManxPower-work | And don't get me started about telcos that install fiber into a building and then *CUT THE COPPER* going into the building. |
| 12:32.40 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: woah...that's nasty |
| 12:32.49 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: happens more and more these days |
| 12:32.49 | ppc | ManxPower-work: well you gotta get rid of the legacy costs |
| 12:33.21 | ManxPower-work | ppc: Maybe so, but when there is only fiber going into a building then the teco does not have to sell service to CLECs. |
| 12:33.27 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: well, we have our fair share of the telco coming into one of our buildings and ripping off all our cross connects |
| 12:33.41 | ManxPower-work | So if the telco wants to not compete in a location they just have to install fiber there. |
| 12:34.13 | ppc | Sounds like the free market at work |
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| 12:34.37 | ManxPower-work | ppc: I disagree. |
| 12:35.18 | dlynes | ppc: that's not free market...that's closed market |
| 12:35.52 | ppc | dlynes: and that was humor on my part |
| 12:35.58 | ManxPower-work | The telco used it's monopoly position to block out competition. |
| 12:36.02 | dlynes | ppc: must've missed the smiley face |
| 12:36.08 | ppc | heh |
| 12:36.42 | ppc | I'm not quite sure how I feel about the whole monopoly thing |
| 12:37.01 | dlynes | ppc: it's a good thing, if you're the monopoly....otherwise it sucks :) |
| 12:37.29 | ManxPower-work | I think that the local loops and COs should be owned and run by a separate company. They can lease out access to carriers. This is what Frontier Telecom in NY state did a number of years ago. |
| 12:37.59 | ManxPower-work | Too bad Frontier imploded recently, but that has nothing to do with the splitting of service and access. |
| 12:38.01 | ppc | ManxPower-work: Why not just make it a local municipal thing, like the airports |
| 12:38.31 | ManxPower-work | ppc: I would have no major problem with that, but I don't think the govt would to any better than a private company |
| 12:38.51 | ppc | ManxPower-work: Well what incentive would the gov have to wire up someone and not someone else? |
| 12:38.52 | ManxPower-work | (in this specific instance) |
| 12:39.12 | ppc | They get more revenue from connections made |
| 12:39.24 | ManxPower-work | ppc: the same would apply to a local loop company |
| 12:39.40 | ppc | but why rely on a company to do that |
| 12:39.57 | ManxPower-work | ppc: why not? |
| 12:40.00 | ppc | It's like giving a private company the contracts to do every single road in your city |
| 12:40.30 | ManxPower-work | ppc: And that company ONLY builds roads and does nothing else like controlling access to the roads |
| 12:40.33 | dlynes | ppc: yeah...no kidding....Montreal's a good example of why you shouldn't do that |
| 12:40.57 | ppc | ManxPower-work: I just dont see why it should be a private company though, why not a city department? |
| 12:41.11 | ppc | I mean that implies right there that it needs to turn a profit |
| 12:41.18 | ppc | Which means access costs more money |
| 12:41.32 | ManxPower-work | ppc: Would the perfect situation for a non-profit company |
| 12:41.50 | ManxPower-work | the whole classification of non-profit is to "serve the public good" |
| 12:42.00 | ppc | Did you know the green bay packers are setup that way? |
| 12:42.29 | ManxPower-work | Give the local access company the monopoly of the local loop. Take away any special provisions for any services carriers. |
| 12:42.45 | ManxPower-work | My point is that this was done before on a small scale and it worked. |
| 12:42.50 | ppc | ManxPower-work: so then I get to thinking ok well then why even have long haul carriers? |
| 12:43.22 | ManxPower-work | ppc: none of this discussion has to do with long hail carriers, only local loops in the ground. |
| 12:43.39 | ManxPower-work | long haul is not a natural monopoly |
| 12:43.41 | ppc | ManxPower-work: well I was giving my thoughts on it |
| 12:43.46 | ManxPower-work | local loop is. |
| 12:43.49 | ppc | ManxPower-work: well why not? |
| 12:44.01 | ppc | You have to go through someones city to run your wires |
| 12:44.33 | ManxPower-work | ppc: and yet, users have a real CHOICE in long haul carriers. |
| 12:44.45 | ManxPower-work | they have NO choice in their local loop provider. |
| 12:44.48 | ppc | well they do now |
| 12:44.50 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: a lot of cities are running their own local loops, using fiber now, too, having bought up a bunch of fiber from all the fiber companies running long hauls that went under |
| 12:45.21 | ManxPower-work | ppc: who owns the lines in the ground coming to your location? |
| 12:45.30 | ManxPower-work | the local bell company even if your bill comes from someone else. |
| 12:45.32 | ppc | bellsouth |
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| 12:46.34 | dlynes | file: you there? |
| 12:46.43 | ManxPower-work | ppc: my point exactly |
| 12:47.13 | ppc | ManxPower-work: I don't follow |
| 12:47.25 | ppc | dlynes: I wonder what the price of that fiber is since the .bomb |
| 12:47.52 | ManxPower-work | ppc: No matter who you order service from, it comes to you over the copper/fiber in the ground -- owned by BellSouth |
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| 12:48.03 | dlynes | ppc: about 30c on the dollar for the stuff from 360 networks and the like |
| 12:48.07 | ManxPower-work | And Bellsouth is trying to sell you the same services over the same lines. |
| 12:48.50 | dlynes | ppc: and btw...had little to do with the .bomb...had more to do with the telecommunications sector getting hit |
| 12:49.20 | ManxPower-work | If the company that owns the lines did not sell any services to end users, but only leased access to carriers there is no incentive to screw the customer or the competing carrier |
| 12:49.38 | dlynes | ppc: businesses were expanding, Internet was steamrolling ahead, ..., and you needed more fiber to feed it...but then cisco and nortel both got hit pretty bad |
| 12:49.47 | dlynes | ppc: followed by the fiber carriers |
| 12:50.00 | ppc | dlynes: well you don't just get hit hard for no reason |
| 12:50.02 | ManxPower-work | I think fiber, copper, coax is all a "natural monopoly" |
| 12:50.17 | ManxPower-work | I work for a CLEC, I see these issues all the time. |
| 12:50.21 | ppc | dlynes: that was like around 2001/2002 |
| 12:50.40 | dlynes | ppc: ok...i concede...they got hit hard so that municipalities could buy cheap fibre :) |
| 12:51.16 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: the issue with Muni fiber is that it's usually stalled by lawsuits -- from the same companies I advocate breaking up. |
| 12:51.19 | ppc | ManxPower-work: 05:43 < ManxPower-work> long haul is not a natural monopoly |
| 12:51.25 | ppc | ManxPower-work: that's fiber, mostly |
| 12:51.44 | jblack | no, theyre pretty muc against any infrastructure plays. |
| 12:51.52 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: yeah...less of an issue in Canada, I guess |
| 12:52.12 | jblack | That they don't personally own. They fight municipal fibre, wiring, wireless.. Any kind of competition. |
| 12:52.23 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: the only lawsuits I've heard of are Rogers whining to the crtc about Telus having all the tv and phone lnes in a building |
| 12:52.34 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: I'm mainly referring to USA |
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| 12:53.02 | ppc | I just heard about a company in minnesota I think that sued the local city from doing their own FTTH service |
| 12:53.09 | ManxPower-work | I'm not very up on Canadian issues. |
| 12:53.24 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: anything that's generally for the greater good in canada, doesn't usually get stalled by lawsuits here |
| 12:53.24 | ManxPower-work | ppc: that's happened MANY MANY times. |
| 12:53.32 | jblack | dlynes: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/10/want-50mbps-internet-in-your-town-threaten-to-roll-out-your-own.ars |
| 12:53.49 | ppc | yeah that's it |
| 12:53.53 | ppc | just found the link |
| 12:53.55 | jblack | That's a typical timeline for US. |
| 12:54.01 | ppc | yeah, im aware |
| 12:54.11 | ppc | I mean, I expect them to do that though. |
| 12:54.23 | jblack | We should make it a crime. |
| 12:54.25 | ppc | Do people think they are just going to sit by and go out of business and say "oh that's too bad" |
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| 12:55.02 | dlynes | jblack: cool |
| 12:55.18 | dlynes | jblack: here, for the most part, the incumbents get to dictate prices, ... |
| 12:55.19 | ppc | content and delivery is a line that is crossed far too often in the us |
| 12:55.56 | dlynes | jblack: the municipalities roll out the fiber, hoping the incumbents and clecs will use it to lower prices for the end user, but they dont' actually implement Internet on it...that's up to other companies to do |
| 12:56.39 | dlynes | jblack: Canada actually has the slowest and most expensive Internet in any of the G8 nations |
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| 12:57.22 | jblack | ppc: That's a non-sequitor. |
| 12:57.50 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Really? |
| 12:58.00 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Don't think I buy that.. |
| 12:58.00 | ppc | jblack: how so |
| 12:58.07 | jblack | It doesn't automatically follow that the introduction of some competition results in failure of the incumbent. |
| 12:58.13 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: Yeah...It was just published in the Globe and Mail I think it was a few days ago |
| 12:58.22 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: USA ADSL users, speak up, what speeds do you get and how much does it cost you? |
| 12:58.41 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: From memory I found the reverse true, but I'm happy to revisit it |
| 12:58.45 | jblack | 3.0Mb/768Kb , $45/mo. |
| 12:58.59 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: sorry....Toronto Star, not the Globe and Mail |
| 12:59.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jblack: I can get that for $27 CAD |
| 12:59.06 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/716041--taking-sides-on-net-neutrality |
| 12:59.09 | jblack | I believe you. |
| 12:59.11 | ppc | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/10/raw.jpg |
| 12:59.11 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Just found our first failure. |
| 12:59.31 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: ? |
| 12:59.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Any USA ADSL users paying $30 or less for 3.0Mb/768Kb ? |
| 12:59.59 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: [08:58]<jblack>3.0Mb/768Kb , $45/mo. [08:58]<[TK]D-Fender>jblack: I can get that for $27 CAD |
| 13:00.09 | ppc | I've heard of service that was around 30 dollars for dsl service not sure how fast |
| 13:00.20 | ppc | that was in the midwest quest |
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| 13:00.28 | ppc | qwest... |
| 13:00.35 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: but americans can get way faster than 3.0Mb |
| 13:00.47 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: fiber is affordable in the states...not so here |
| 13:00.53 | ppc | haha |
| 13:01.05 | jblack | Not here they can't. |
| 13:01.11 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: roadrunner fiber service is quite cheap |
| 13:01.23 | ppc | I suppose if you live in one of the magic areas it is |
| 13:01.30 | dlynes | jblack: are you in the bush? |
| 13:01.32 | ppc | but then you probably have tons of money anyway |
| 13:01.40 | jblack | I'm in a valley with 200,000 people, in a city of 50,000. |
| 13:01.48 | dlynes | jblack: ok...you're in the bush |
| 13:01.58 | jblack | Wilkes-Barre isn't the bush. |
| 13:02.01 | ppc | really, that's the bush? |
| 13:02.10 | dlynes | 50K people is out in the middle of the bush |
| 13:02.12 | jblack | ppc: Nah. he's just making shit up again. |
| 13:02.22 | dlynes | It's a pretty small town |
| 13:02.37 | ppc | I was going to say because as far as cities go in the US that's a pretty decent sized one |
| 13:02.47 | dlynes | Even my home town at 108K people is out in the bush |
| 13:02.52 | dlynes | ppc: really? |
| 13:03.24 | ppc | dlynes: the US is very spread out so it's not odd to realistically think of the place he lives in as actually having 200K people |
| 13:03.26 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: We can get 7 mbps ADSL in major metro areas, and in core ares there 25 on ADSL2+ |
| 13:03.33 | jblack | has had enough of dlynes and ignores him. |
| 13:03.49 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Our cable does go to 50mbps, but the upload is provider capped and the BW caps make ours a worthless choice. |
| 13:03.51 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: must only be in Montreal |
| 13:03.55 | jblack | There's enough honest people to listen to, to put up with his bullshit at 9 am. |
| 13:03.59 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: indeed their fiber option look a lot better though |
| 13:04.13 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Montreal & toronto confirmed, |
| 13:04.26 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: who provides it? |
| 13:04.46 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: all i can get is the lousy 6-8MB's here from garbage like Rogers and Mountain Cable |
| 13:05.00 | ppc | jblack: so you dont think there is a problem with too many companies who own things like content doing delivery like comcast buying all kinds of stuff? |
| 13:05.03 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: and then they have lousy upload bandwidth, and shitty voip quality |
| 13:05.03 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: You're jsut a little to far out of the dev range i guess. |
| 13:05.32 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Yeah we get scammed on UL. I'd love just to have t1 equiv for home rather than the 3.0/800k I get now |
| 13:05.35 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: I'm in one of those 40K population areas, so I don't expect much here |
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| 13:05.49 | ManxPower-work | I've been reasonably happy with my cable internet. |
| 13:05.52 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: but even in Hamilton (550K), there's not much there, either |
| 13:05.55 | jblack | ppc: I'm for the seperation of interest. I think the anti-trust laws should be more strongly enforced. |
| 13:06.11 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: UL? |
| 13:06.19 | ppc | jblack: yeah but you just said what I said was a non-sequitur |
| 13:06.19 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Upload |
| 13:06.23 | dlynes | ah |
| 13:06.50 | ppc | I find it odd my cable internet service was much cheaper and much faster in 2000 than it was just last year |
| 13:06.56 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: and does bell do all the bullshit traffic shaping in Montreal? |
| 13:07.38 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: or do you actually have a choice to use something other than bell? |
| 13:07.58 | jblack | ppc: No, I said that your claim that the introduction of municipal competition drives out commercial business is a non-sequitor. |
| 13:08.03 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Yeah, but they just got slapped by the CRTC and some vendors are squeezing out from under it |
| 13:08.33 | ppc | jblack: i dont think that at all |
| 13:08.37 | jblack | You just claim it, with no support, when I know of at least a half dozen (and think there are literally dozens) of cases in which municipal networking has been introduced, and the commercial interests were not driven to bankruptcy. |
| 13:08.44 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: And yes, there are tons of ADSL providers, however they all use bell's DSLAMS and thats where the turn up the DPI |
| 13:08.55 | jblack | ppc: That's how I understood what you said, and why I disagreed. |
| 13:09.01 | ppc | im very much for municipal access |
| 13:09.02 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: yeah, and then the crtc rescinded it, saying bell is allowed to do it, but only to constrict bittorrent traffic and the like temporarily, but that they still need to upgrade their network as a more permanent solution |
| 13:09.19 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: typicalyl... BS |
| 13:09.39 | ManxPower-work | Ugh. I hate programming |
| 13:09.48 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: I think if you give the crtc enough money, your problems go away |
| 13:10.09 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: Believable... |
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| 13:11.21 | jblack | Katty: RUNN!! |
| 13:11.25 | Katty | hmm> |
| 13:11.26 | Katty | ? |
| 13:11.33 | ManxPower-work | The leaves are finally stating to fall here in Huntsville |
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| 13:12.23 | jblack | has to go. Good day all |
| 13:12.26 | Katty | bye |
| 13:12.35 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: are you using g729 on asterisk 1.6.1.8 yet? |
| 13:12.47 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: I never use G729 anymore |
| 13:12.56 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: ah |
| 13:12.59 | ManxPower-work | And 1.6 has not been out long enough for us to use it. |
| 13:13.14 | dlynes | you're still on 1.6.0 then? |
| 13:13.28 | ManxPower-work | 1.4.x |
| 13:13.34 | dlynes | ah |
| 13:13.44 | ppc | what are the benefits of using one over the other? |
| 13:14.03 | dlynes | ppc: Using Fax for Asterisk, and 1.6.x you can do t.38 |
| 13:14.05 | ManxPower-work | ppc: 1.4.x has been out for ages, it's well known, reasonably stable |
| 13:14.39 | dlynes | ppc: And, based on my experience from running 1.6.1 since 1.6.1.1 came out, 1.6 seems to be more stable than 1.4 was when it first came out |
| 13:14.44 | ppc | oh I meant using different codecs |
| 13:14.45 | moos3 | ppc: hylafax is the way to go |
| 13:14.57 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: Windows 1.0 was more stable than 1.4 when it came out. |
| 13:15.06 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: heh |
| 13:15.25 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: ok...more stable than 1.2 when it came out, too |
| 13:15.47 | ManxPower-work | I think the stability issues in 1.4 is what prompted the new release cycle/policies |
| 13:15.47 | ppc | it also could have had an unknown vuln in it too |
| 13:15.58 | dlynes | I actually haven't found any problems with 1.6 yet |
| 13:16.06 | dlynes | 1.4 was easy to find problems |
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| 13:16.20 | ManxPower-work | Most of our installs *shudder* are with FreePBX. |
| 13:16.28 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower-work: No, the new dev cycle was so that we don't ahve to wait 3 years befor getting new features |
| 13:16.32 | ManxPower-work | And FreePBX is crappy and unstable enough without throwing 1.6 at it. |
| 13:16.51 | dlynes | And any compatibility issues with 1.6 were mitigated by upgrading to 1.4.26.2 first (1.4 changed behaviours for some things from 1.4.22 to 1.4.26.2) |
| 13:17.02 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower-work: And a GUI doesn't make * unstable.... |
| 13:17.11 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: it's apparently stable with the 1.6.0 series...but not tested on 1.6.1 |
| 13:17.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ManxPower-work: Stop double-selling your complaints! |
| 13:17.45 | ManxPower-work | [TK]D-Fender: A agree, it's the GUI hammering Asterisk with manager logins every second. The 500 lines of dialplan code executed for each call, the complex series of AGI scripts. |
| 13:18.07 | ManxPower-work | all of which make any kind of troubleshooting a terrible mess |
| 13:18.11 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: so why are you using it then, if you hate it so much? |
| 13:18.20 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: I do not have a choice. |
| 13:18.22 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: or did you get roped into using it? |
| 13:18.30 | [TK]D-Fender | (DISCLAIMER : All figures vary by 200% give or take 500%) :p |
| 13:18.31 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: ah...so same reason I'm using it :( |
| 13:18.33 | ManxPower-work | When I had a choice, I refused to install, use, or support it. |
| 13:19.03 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: my long term plans are to eventually phase out FreePBX |
| 13:19.17 | ppc | ManxPower-work: so you have problems all the time then? |
| 13:19.42 | ManxPower-work | ppc: depends on how you define "problems". I have a problem every single time I try to diagnose an issue. |
| 13:19.45 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: well, the owner of our company is starting to realize the limitations of freepbx, so given enough time, we won't be running freepbx anymore, either |
| 13:20.07 | dlynes | ppc: freepbx takes about ten times longer to solve problems because of all the additional spam it generates |
| 13:20.21 | dlynes | ppc: not to mention that it's difficult to put debugging statements into the dialplan |
| 13:20.28 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: in the short term we are building an ISO with most stuff preconfigured for FreePBX |
| 13:20.31 | ppc | yeah I am aware of an automated/web front can cause more problems |
| 13:20.39 | dlynes | ppc: actually...even for the most part, just plain impossible |
| 13:21.12 | dlynes | that being said |
| 13:21.13 | ManxPower-work | For problem users I'm starting to remove them from FreePBX and build their extension manually |
| 13:21.15 | ppc | I've been using it myself |
| 13:21.40 | dlynes | if you've got a simple phone system that does nothing special, out of the ordinary or anything like that, and you've got ten or less extensions, freepbx is probably a good solution |
| 13:22.02 | dlynes | but I regularly configure phone systems with 80 or more extensions...freepbx quickly becomes a huge pia |
| 13:22.17 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: It's just so SLOW to use the GUI |
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| 13:22.51 | dlynes | and cumbersome |
| 13:23.39 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: not to mention horribly confusing |
| 13:24.00 | dlynes | holy cow |
| 13:24.05 | dlynes | Walmart's selling caskets now |
| 13:24.21 | dlynes | As is Costco |
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| 13:26.43 | robl^laptop | Low prices... 6 ft under. always.. |
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| 13:28.23 | voipmonk | they know something you dont know about the pandemic |
| 13:28.40 | [TK]D-Fender | voipmonk: Yes, its a cash-cow |
| 13:28.52 | ManxPower-work | Dieing is VERY expensive. |
| 13:29.02 | voipmonk | it will get cheaper |
| 13:29.05 | robl^laptop | voipmonk: you mean get your swine flu fall-out supplies at Walmart? |
| 13:29.05 | dlynes | [TK]D-Fender: no kidding...calling it a pandemic, and blowing it severely out of proportion with reality |
| 13:29.18 | voipmonk | when the story errupts that its not the pandemic that kills people but the vaccines |
| 13:29.33 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: pandemic doesn't relate to fatality, only virility. |
| 13:30.29 | [TK]D-Fender | dlynes: And as far as H1N1 goes, what they're afraid of isn't jsut what it does, but rather what it MIGHT DO if it mutates. have 4x the transmission rate vs std flu would make that a "Spanish Flu" come-back |
| 13:31.13 | dlynes | file: ping |
| 13:31.21 | file | pong? |
| 13:31.35 | dlynes | file: You around? Or is that just a trigger? |
| 13:31.43 | file | I may or may not be around. |
| 13:31.55 | [TK]D-Fender | thinks file is a square |
| 13:32.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Trapezoidal even! |
| 13:32.18 | dlynes | file: Just curious when the g729 codec will be recompiled for 1.6.1.8? |
| 13:32.50 | file | ummm, does it need to be? |
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| 13:33.49 | p3nguin_ | dlynes: links? |
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| 13:34.24 | dlynes | file: I'm getting: [Oct 30 06:34:11] WARNING[14710]: loader.c:385 load_dynamic_module: Error loading module 'codec_g729a.so': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/codec_g729a.so: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied |
| 13:34.34 | dlynes | file: When I try to load it |
| 13:34.52 | file | that's selinux |
| 13:35.10 | dlynes | file: and based on a previous message you posted online, it sounded like it was a recompile issue |
| 13:35.17 | file | nope |
| 13:35.31 | dlynes | file: Ok, so the only way to fix that is to disable selinux? |
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| 13:35.41 | file | or add it to selinux in such a way that it works |
| 13:35.53 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: /etc/sysconfig/selinux on RedHatish systems |
| 13:35.57 | dlynes | file: ah...and I guess there's no faq for that? |
| 13:36.06 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: yeah...using centos |
| 13:36.16 | ManxPower-work | I run in permissive (log, don't block) mode to test, then go back and make the broken stuff work |
| 13:36.17 | file | I have no idea. |
| 13:36.38 | jozza | hi all, i have ast 1.4.25 and i'd like to know if sip extension is busy before i dial it |
| 13:36.42 | file | let's see! |
| 13:36.47 | file | http://kb.digium.com/entry/94/ |
| 13:36.58 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: "core show application chanisavail" <- |
| 13:37.20 | dlynes | file: beautiful...thanks |
| 13:38.06 | dlynes | file: that's fixed it...you're the man |
| 13:38.28 | jozza | let me check for real, i read it is not working correctly |
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| 13:43.59 | jozza | i did chanisavail for SIP/502 and the status is always 0 |
| 13:44.33 | dlynes | jozza: chanisavail is not always reliable, either |
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| 13:44.50 | jozza | so how do i do it without actualy dialing it? |
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| 13:45.22 | phix | hey |
| 13:45.23 | ManxPower-work | set call-limit=1 |
| 13:45.29 | ManxPower-work | then chanisavail should work |
| 13:45.31 | dlynes | jozza: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+ChanIsAvail for more information on the peculiarities of ChanIsAvail |
| 13:45.32 | phix | asterisk ftw |
| 13:45.42 | phix | lets all just stfu and asterisks hey |
| 13:47.47 | jozza | where and when do i set this call-limit |
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| 13:51.35 | dlynes | jozza: sip.conf |
| 13:51.45 | dlynes | jozza: on a per peer/friend basis |
| 13:52.04 | jozza | ok let me try that |
| 13:52.07 | dlynes | jozza: if you're using 1.4, it might not work properly if you're using type 'friend' |
| 13:53.15 | jozza | hmm |
| 13:53.35 | jozza | i am |
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| 14:00.20 | dlynes | jozza: so make sure you split the 'friend' up into 'peer' and 'user' instead, then |
| 14:00.22 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: "type=peer" |
| 14:00.46 | jozza | ok, lets see |
| 14:04.36 | ManxPower-work | there is a limitonpeer= options as well. jozza, why don't you read the sip.conf.sample and look for options that might be relevant? |
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| 14:06.37 | dlynes | cool...got res_fax.so and res_fax_digium.so loading now as well |
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| 14:07.59 | kerberos_ | hi everyone |
| 14:08.15 | kerberos_ | is there a way to run a script when a call hangs up? |
| 14:08.32 | ManxPower-work | kerberos_: which side of the call? |
| 14:08.35 | [TK]D-Fender | kerberos_: "h" Asterisk Standard Extension |
| 14:08.40 | kerberos_ | we tried deadagi on the 'h' extension but it triggers when the user answers the call |
| 14:08.50 | kerberos_ | not when the call is finished? |
| 14:09.09 | kerberos_ | doesn't matter who ends the call (it should be triggered in both cases) |
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| 14:09.47 | [TK]D-Fender | [10:08]<kerberos_>we tried deadagi on the 'h' extension but it triggers when the user answers the call <- no |
| 14:09.59 | kerberos_ | ? |
| 14:10.01 | ManxPower-work | kerberos_: It DOES matter. |
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| 14:10.30 | jozza | setting call-limit=1 and type=peer still returns availstatus 0 |
| 14:10.32 | ManxPower-work | When the callee hangs up the extension exits unless the "g" option to Dial is used. Then caller hangs up then exten "h" is executed. |
| 14:11.21 | kerberos_ | thanks, we'll give that a try |
| 14:11.34 | ManxPower-work | kerberos_: you're not doing something stupid like using _. as an extension pattern, are you? |
| 14:11.59 | kerberos_ | no, _X. |
| 14:12.03 | kerberos_ | is that stupid, too? :) |
| 14:12.09 | ManxPower-work | kerberos_: nope. |
| 14:12.30 | ManxPower-work | _. will match any extension, including exten "i", "h", "s", etc |
| 14:13.01 | ManxPower-work | so if you use _. one thing that will happen is the extension will be run AGAIN when the caller hangs up. |
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| 14:15.02 | kerberos_ | so this is how our dialplan works... We have an extension that has Dial option set to Local/ext_no@custom_context |
| 14:15.19 | kerberos_ | and that context runs an agi script to get the caller id from a db |
| 14:15.35 | kerberos_ | and then runs Dial application on SIP/ext_no |
| 14:15.49 | [TK]D-Fender | kerberos_: Show us a failure and we'll show you a fix. |
| 14:16.04 | kerberos_ | wait a second I'm descriing it to you :) |
| 14:16.14 | p3nguin_ | Why do you need to get caller ID from a DB when you could just get it directly when the call comes in? |
| 14:16.37 | ManxPower-work | kerberos_: he wasn't asking for a description, he was asking for a pastebin of the CLI output of a failed call. |
| 14:16.41 | kerberos_ | based on the phone number we fetch the name |
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| 14:17.03 | kerberos_ | ok one second please |
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| 14:17.11 | scalex000 | good morning! what its mean "Unable to support trunking on user 'churchill' without DAHDI timing" |
| 14:17.30 | pif | hi, are beronet isdn cards supported by the latest dahdi? |
| 14:18.13 | dlynes | scalex000: you need to load at least one dahdi driver |
| 14:18.34 | [TK]D-Fender | scalex000: means you don't have a DAHDI timer installed and can't use IAX2 in trunk mode without it |
| 14:18.39 | ManxPower-work | scalex000: that means you do not have a zaptel/dahdi timing source so you can't do IAX2 trunking. |
| 14:19.15 | ManxPower-work | Sometimes I think [TK]D-Fender is my Evil Twin |
| 14:19.55 | jozza | tried everything ChanIsAvail still returns availstatus 0 |
| 14:20.26 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: And we don't see your configs, a dump of hints that would back it up, or your attempt to call ChanIsAvail |
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| 14:20.45 | ManxPower-work | I guess kerberos_ didn't understand what pastebin is. |
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| 14:21.26 | scalex000 | ha ha ha |
| 14:21.39 | scalex000 | TK, thanks |
| 14:21.46 | scalex000 | ManxPower, thanks |
| 14:22.20 | ManxPower-work | scalex000: Unless you are sending 3 or more calls between the SAME TWO SERVERS, then IAX2 trunking will INCREASE bandwidth used, not decrease it. |
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| 14:23.03 | jozza | can i call ChanIsAvail with parameter SIP/502 - its an extension number? |
| 14:23.19 | scalex000 | ManxPower, even whether not in use. |
| 14:23.31 | scalex000 | ManxPower, Do you have a link how to install? |
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| 14:26.37 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: No, SIP/502 is a DEVICE, not an EXTENSION, and yes, this is what you should be referring to |
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| 14:27.02 | kerberos_ | hello again |
| 14:27.16 | kerberos_ | I've got kicked out because I've tried to paste a part of the log |
| 14:27.25 | jozza | but its a correct call to the function right? |
| 14:27.29 | kerberos_ | how do I send it to you guys? It's preatty big |
| 14:27.43 | robl^laptop_ | ~pastebin |
| 14:27.44 | infobot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 14:28.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: I don't SEE your call to it... |
| 14:28.40 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: or any of the other things I mentioned |
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| 14:28.52 | kerberos_ | cool |
| 14:29.03 | jozza | ok |
| 14:29.12 | jozza | i'll make a pastebin |
| 14:29.58 | kerberos_ | http://pastebin.com/d5d73eff4 here you go |
| 14:30.02 | mcargile | hello all. Got a question. I have an asterisk box that someone keeps trying to register a softphone with. What I would like to be able to do is actually allow the registration to go through so I can call that phone and ask them to please knock it off. Is there a way I can build a sip.conf entry based off the sip debug output for this registration? |
| 14:30.39 | [TK]D-Fender | mcargile: Not with * |
| 14:30.49 | [TK]D-Fender | mcargile: Actuallly..... |
| 14:31.05 | [TK]D-Fender | mcargile: IIRC there is a "create dynamic perr" type option. Go read the samples |
| 14:31.15 | mcargile | thanks |
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| 14:32.43 | Zeeek | mcargile: the best way to say no thanks is to block them at the firewall |
| 14:33.06 | kerberos_ | anybody looked at that? |
| 14:34.06 | jozza | here is my pastebin http://pastebin.com/d34cf4757 |
| 14:35.13 | mcargile | Zeeek: while I fully agree with you. This is most likely one of my company's existing clients who has his soft phone pointed at the wrong box. |
| 14:36.33 | Zeeek | mcargile: in that case, yeah, inappropriate |
| 14:36.53 | Zeeek | you want to send them to a polite but stern message |
| 14:37.30 | Zeeek | via callback upon registering |
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| 14:37.54 | kuku1 | How do I disable packet2packet bridging ? |
| 14:38.09 | kuku1 | canreinvite=no is set on the provider and the phone in sip.conf |
| 14:38.55 | kerberos_ | can someone please help? I want to run an agi script after the call hangsup, but for some reason the DeadAgi on the 'h' extension is called when the calle pick up and not on hangup |
| 14:39.20 | mcargile | kerberos_: which asterisk version? |
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| 14:41.17 | jozza | [TK]D-Fender>here is my pastebin http://pastebin.com/d34cf4757 |
| 14:41.32 | kerberos_ | asterisk 1.6 |
| 14:43.38 | Whtsup | how can i set autofail over to ma 2nd context when all channels of 1st context is busy |
| 14:43.59 | scalex000 | ManxPower, I need to use ztdummy |
| 14:44.11 | mcargile | kerberos_: well first off DeadAGI is depreciated in 1.6. You just call AGI like any other agi script. Second I seem to remember that being a bug in early versions of 1.6. What is the exact version string? |
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| 14:44.39 | kerberos_ | one second |
| 14:45.08 | mcargile | scalex000: I believe MaxPower left the channel like 20 minutes ago |
| 14:45.24 | kerberos_ | 1.6.0.9 |
| 14:45.26 | scalex000 | mcargile: thanks |
| 14:46.01 | Whtsup | how can i set autofail over to ma 2nd context when all channels of 1st context is busy |
| 14:46.33 | p3nguin_ | Include the next context, maybe? |
| 14:46.57 | kuku1 | How do I disable packet2packet bridging ? |
| 14:46.59 | jtodd | Whtsup: Are you looking for "Goto"? |
| 14:47.09 | mcargile | kerberos_: I would suggest updating to the latest 1.6.0 version which is 1.6.0.15 and see if it works properly for you. We still use 1.4 for our production systems so I have not fully tested AGIs in the h extension in a long while. |
| 14:47.42 | Whtsup | ye |
| 14:47.44 | Whtsup | yes goto |
| 14:47.59 | jtodd | Whtsup: Well, the application is called "Goto". Check it out. |
| 14:48.35 | Whtsup | i m newbie |
| 14:48.37 | Whtsup | :( |
| 14:48.50 | Whtsup | em hitting ma head from last week on this problem |
| 14:49.00 | ajohnson | Whtsup: worse than that |
| 14:49.07 | Whtsup | yes |
| 14:49.09 | Whtsup | :( |
| 14:49.14 | ajohnson | You're a newbie who refuses to read documentation or figure out what you're doing |
| 14:49.44 | Whtsup | i already read it |
| 14:49.48 | Whtsup | but i m not getting |
| 14:49.55 | jtodd | Whsup: I'd suggest http://downloads.oreilly.com/books/9780596510480.pdf - they have a description of "Goto" in there. |
| 14:49.58 | robl^laptop | there's a nice free PDF of an ASterisk book. |
| 14:50.31 | [TK]D-Fender | [10:43]<Whtsup>how can i set autofail over to ma 2nd context when all channels of 1st context is busy <- channels aren't in a "context". |
| 14:50.32 | mcargile | kuku1: If I understand what you are asking for correctly the only way I have been able to do this in the past is to put a 'T' or 't' in the dial string which enables transfer for the connection. If you dont want to actually allow either of the two end points to actually perform a transfer with this just change the transfer key fro a # to the 'd' key in features.conf. Most phone do not have a D key so they cannot use this feature |
| 14:51.00 | jozza | [TK]D-Fender: here is my pastebin http://pastebin.com/d34cf4757 |
| 14:51.15 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: Your call to ChanIsAvail is missing an important option <- |
| 14:51.50 | jozza | which one? |
| 14:51.59 | jozza | s? |
| 14:52.00 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: Go actually read them... |
| 14:52.06 | jozza | i did, come on |
| 14:52.40 | jozza | i always ready everything before nagging you guys |
| 14:53.58 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: One of the options is very clear about how to determine that a device should be considered "busy"... |
| 14:54.03 | jozza | i really dont see what it is |
| 14:54.05 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: go read it AGAIN |
| 14:55.57 | jozza | i dont see why you have to be like this, i do my best to make ast better, i even submit patches, report bugs and this is what i get for return |
| 14:56.57 | jozza | did i mention i'm testing this on 1.4.25? |
| 14:57.42 | Katty | blergh |
| 14:57.58 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: jozza The app only has *2* options. you have a 50% chance of guessing it alone! |
| 14:58.00 | p3nguin_ | blergh, indeed. |
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| 14:58.15 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: You could have even tried both in the time it takes to complain about it. |
| 14:58.25 | scalex000 | hello., I need help with iax configuration. I do know why not work. |
| 14:58.41 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: And this works just fine in your version. |
| 14:59.11 | jozza | i tried options s and j |
| 14:59.15 | jozza | status is still 0 |
| 15:00.20 | [TK]D-Fender | jozza: and i don't see your sip.conf entry for the file, or your channel dump showing that its ona call, or the call to your dialplan code to see the result |
| 15:01.42 | scalex000 | hello., I don't know why not connec. |
| 15:03.00 | TSM | ok im not having any luck in #freepbx, ive just got a general dialplan query, if i include another context at the top of another context, how can i get it to imediatly start at the included one then if i so wish, bug out and not continue execution of the originating context |
| 15:03.10 | kuku1 | How do I disable packet2packet bridging ? |
| 15:03.41 | kuku1 | sorry |
| 15:03.42 | kaldemar | TSM: hangup in the included one |
| 15:04.00 | kuku1 | mcargile: I did that, and while p2p stopped, the sip call still showed that its passing it |
| 15:05.00 | scalex000 | http://pastebin.com/d24a88fc |
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| 15:06.04 | TSM | kaldemar: i tried that, cant work out if i start like... exten => s,1,Hangup |
| 15:06.53 | geneticx | hi you all |
| 15:06.55 | scalex000 | http://pastebin.com/d7322f339 |
| 15:06.58 | kaldemar | TSM: what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 15:07.14 | mcargile | kuku1: I guess I am confused then about what you are trying to disable |
| 15:08.10 | TSM | kaldemar: at the start of the macro-vm there is an include=>macro-vm-custom, i want to put some code in macro-vm-custom that checks a DB entry and if the disable vm is set then it does not go to VM |
| 15:08.26 | mcargile | kuku1: with the T or t option asterisk has to stay in the media path in order for it to detect when someone presses the transfer key which is what I thought you were after |
| 15:08.29 | kaldemar | TSM: you don't use macros with include => |
| 15:08.51 | kaldemar | TSM: macros are used with app Macro |
| 15:09.21 | TSM | kaldemar: i think its just what freepbx calls its included in custom contexts |
| 15:09.49 | TSM | not sure, im getting confused |
| 15:10.13 | kaldemar | TSM: i don't think such nonsense exists even in freepbx. |
| 15:10.57 | TSM | kaldemar: http://pastebin.com/m3deae597 this is a snip of the start of the vm macro |
| 15:11.31 | [TK]D-Fender | TSM: Show us along with your code and show us what gets executed <- |
| 15:11.51 | kaldemar | TSM: make a wrapper context that checks for the value and either hangs up or continues in another context with the actual numbers with goto, gosub or whatever fits your situation. |
| 15:12.46 | TSM | http://pastebin.com/m7fd68807 this is the execution output |
| 15:13.19 | kaldemar | TSM: it's using app Macro like it should. |
| 15:13.22 | TSM | http://pastebin.com/m49395a79 this is my custom bit |
| 15:13.37 | TSM | at the moment im just testing it with a simple hangup |
| 15:13.38 | kaldemar | TSM: your custom bit NEVER gets executed |
| 15:14.05 | TSM | kaldemar: thats is the issue, dont know why, it gets included but dont know how to start it |
| 15:14.21 | kaldemar | TSM: you can't start it. you're not supposed to. |
| 15:14.24 | TSM | i cant modify the extentions_additional.conf as its auto generated |
| 15:14.25 | TSM | i |
| 15:14.38 | TSM | have to put my stuff in the extentions_custom.conf files |
| 15:15.07 | kaldemar | you chose to use freepbx, now deal with the lack of configurability. |
| 15:15.49 | TSM | no its not lack of config options, if i wanted i could do the whole dial plan from start, i just dont fully understand how the dialplans route things around |
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| 15:16.00 | kaldemar | you need to understand how the whole dialplan works if you want to make modifications. |
| 15:16.14 | TSM | like what do the includes actualy do, in php it would execute wha tyou include |
| 15:16.24 | kaldemar | by now you should be aware of how app Macro works. |
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| 15:16.57 | kaldemar | read the basics on dialplans in the book. |
| 15:17.01 | |stefan| | hi =) when i dial out it works but when i recieve calls it says SIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized . just upgraded asterisk and this is what happened. not quite sure why =) any suggestions ? |
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| 15:19.08 | thisismyname | heyja |
| 15:19.43 | thisismyname | anyone up here for a short question regarding sip and a mapping to the extension |
| 15:20.35 | russellb | ~ask |
| 15:20.36 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 15:20.44 | russellb | :-) |
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| 15:25.45 | proute | Hello everybody |
| 15:26.53 | proute | I use 2 Asterisk with iax protocol. I try to pickupcall between asterisk with iax and it don't work. I put in iax.conf callgroup and pickupgroup... |
| 15:27.03 | proute | So how can pickup call via iax ? |
| 15:27.05 | proute | thanks |
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| 15:35.32 | |stefan| | nobody knows what could cause "unauthorized on incoming calls when upgrading asterisk version ? all account info are the same etc. and outgoing calls work. |
| 15:36.56 | proute | |stefan|: what is the value of insecure in your incoming call? |
| 15:38.12 | |stefan| | it was set to "very" but i got error message so i've tried both yes and no there |
| 15:38.21 | Zeeek | VoIP Users Conference LIVE in 20 minutes. Join the call: http://VUC.me or just watch it happen on #voip-users-conference - Randal Schwartz the perl king is there now chatting with us |
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| 15:39.39 | proute | |stefan|: what's format about your did number ? |
| 15:41.15 | |stefan| | proute: what ? =) sorry didn't get that |
| 15:42.02 | proute | for exemple your did-number is 01234556 do you try put +33123456 ? |
| 15:42.09 | proute | internationnal format |
| 15:42.22 | |stefan| | nono nothing like that |
| 15:42.46 | |stefan| | i check the debug messages and i see the call coming in but the second it comes in i get unauthorized |
| 15:43.44 | |stefan| | probably some option or something that i have to change or is missing. been a while since i did the conf for asterisk |
| 15:43.55 | [TK]D-Fender | proute: You won't get a 401 for a dialplan error |
| 15:43.58 | |stefan| | and now when i upgraded incoming won't work like i said |
| 15:44.47 | proute | [TK]D-Fender: I have just a busy song in my phone when I try to pikcup call via iax |
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| 15:52.29 | xrmx__ | i'm having trouble with my first ivr, i cannot collect the digit when i call extension 666 http://pastebin.com/m7b093857 |
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| 15:54.12 | thomas | hiho |
| 15:57.07 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: It's no wonder, considering your syntax is all fucked up. |
| 15:58.05 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, do you mean = vs =>? |
| 15:58.15 | p3nguin_ | partially |
| 15:58.34 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, what else? |
| 16:00.34 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: If you dial 666, does it Playback tt-monkeys? |
| 16:01.00 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, yes |
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| 16:01.38 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, then minutes and then Hangup() |
| 16:01.43 | xrmx__ | :w |
| 16:02.42 | p3nguin_ | After it plays that soundfile, then it takes you to cambia_stato,s,1. |
| 16:02.59 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, that's the plan, now i added Wai |
| 16:03.06 | xrmx__ | tExten(5) and it waits |
| 16:03.10 | p3nguin_ | At that point, you're setting a couple variables, then trying to play a soundfile called minutes. |
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| 16:03.30 | p3nguin_ | There's no WaitExten() in there at all. |
| 16:03.42 | p3nguin_ | Oh, you just changed it. |
| 16:03.45 | p3nguin_ | nevermine that. |
| 16:03.50 | Katty | i wish life had WaitExten() built into it |
| 16:04.14 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, yes, in a few seconds i'll repost, i need to cleanup a few other things i think |
| 16:04.20 | p3nguin_ | But anyway, after it tries to play 'minutes', it should just exit, since there is nothing else to be done. |
| 16:05.02 | Katty | do you suppose Potatos go into the vegetable group or the bread/grain/cerreal/etc group? |
| 16:05.28 | p3nguin_ | Probabl grain, since it's a starch. |
| 16:05.49 | p3nguin_ | It's certainly not a vegetable. |
| 16:06.12 | p3nguin_ | And neither are tomatoes. ;) |
| 16:06.18 | Katty | well tomato is a fruit |
| 16:06.18 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, after a waitExten() shouldn't asterisk try to dial an extension like the digit it got in the same context? |
| 16:06.22 | Katty | but it goes into the vegetable group |
| 16:06.36 | Katty | that means that chocolate goes into the meat group right?! |
| 16:06.38 | Katty | it's a BEAN |
| 16:07.13 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: If you are dialing 0 or 1, during BackGround or WaitExten, I expect it to execute the matching exten... |
| 16:07.14 | Katty | anjd i have to eat chocolate, it has iron in it :> |
| 16:07.23 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, that is what i want |
| 16:07.41 | dlynes | Katty: good excuse :) |
| 16:07.43 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: but then you set a globale variable and then have a bad syntax on the goto. |
| 16:07.53 | Katty | dlynes: i sure thought so |
| 16:08.06 | Katty | dlynes: have you seen the new food pyramid? it's insane |
| 16:08.10 | p3nguin_ | chiuso,666,n <-- as far as I know, n is not a valid priority reference. |
| 16:08.20 | Katty | dlynes: oh and did i mention there are now 12 DIFFERENT pyramids? |
| 16:08.22 | Katty | eesha |
| 16:08.28 | dlynes | Katty: nope...it's probably an american thing :) |
| 16:08.29 | p3nguin_ | Choose something more like chiuso,666,2 |
| 16:08.31 | dlynes | Katty: I'm in Canada |
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| 16:08.44 | p3nguin_ | or chiuso,666,3 maybe |
| 16:08.59 | dlynes | Katty: I'm guessing yoiu're talking about something from the FDA, anyways |
| 16:09.01 | Katty | dlynes: show me the canadian food pyramid |
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| 16:09.20 | Katty | i should look at the french one. |
| 16:09.29 | Katty | the largest categories would be Sex and Red Wine |
| 16:09.31 | dlynes | Katty: meat and alternatives, breads and cereals, vegetables and fruit, and I think that was it |
| 16:09.49 | dlynes | Katty: oh yeah...forgot....dairy |
| 16:10.10 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, will check that too, thanks |
| 16:10.38 | dlynes | Katty: but, for the most part, you can replace dairy with soy |
| 16:10.51 | jaytee | "After carefully reviewing all the data collected by nutritionists and doctors as part of the new FDA study we have decided to replace the current food pyramid with a food ziggurat." |
| 16:11.21 | dlynes | ziggurat == mess in layman's terms |
| 16:11.30 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: core set verbose 3, then dialplan reload. You'll probably see where there might be a problem. |
| 16:11.42 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, i'm already at 10 :) |
| 16:11.49 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: That's good enough! |
| 16:12.34 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: You should notice that when you load the dialplan, there is no 'n' priority -- every 'n' you have specified as priority is converted to the last priority +1. |
| 16:12.47 | Katty | dlynes: i still wish i knew where chocolate was supposed to fit in :< |
| 16:12.56 | dlynes | Katty: junk food :) |
| 16:13.10 | Katty | chocolate is very healthy for you |
| 16:13.13 | Katty | i'm not talking about snickers bars. |
| 16:13.15 | dlynes | Katty: I think it's probably up at the top of the pyramid on the US one |
| 16:13.20 | jaytee | chocolate should be at the top of the ziggurat to the right of the pizza |
| 16:13.21 | Katty | i'm talking about 70% cocoa bars. |
| 16:13.31 | dlynes | Katty: oh...you mean real chocolate |
| 16:13.33 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: When I specify a Goto() and need to go into a specific spot, I don't use 'n' in my priorities. I go ahead and number 1,2,3,4,etc. |
| 16:13.37 | dlynes | Katty: aka european chocolate |
| 16:13.40 | Katty | yes. REAL chocolate. not wax. |
| 16:13.46 | |stefan| | why does it say this ? chan_sip.c: Unknown insecure mode 'very' . is the "insecure" option removed ? |
| 16:13.53 | Katty | sadly, still, i'm guessing it does count as sugar |
| 16:14.05 | dlynes | Katty: yeah...real chocolate is excellent |
| 16:14.17 | dlynes | Katty: especially belgian chocolate truffles |
| 16:14.33 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, i expected * to find the first n but not an issue, easy to use plain itegers |
| 16:14.51 | dlynes | Katty: I could eat those frozen belgian chocolate truffles all day long |
| 16:14.55 | p3nguin_ | |stefan|: I use insecure=very in my sip contexts. |
| 16:15.03 | Katty | dlynes: you certainly wouldn't have any iron deficiencies |
| 16:15.14 | Katty | should pick up a b complex vitamin at grocery store today |
| 16:15.26 | dlynes | Katty: yeah...my stomach probably wouldn't appreciate it though |
| 16:15.35 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: Since n is changed to a number, I expect it would never find one. |
| 16:15.36 | Katty | probably not. or your blood sugar levels. |
| 16:15.53 | dlynes | Katty: well...not ___that___ much sugar in those ones |
| 16:16.06 | dlynes | Katty: the belgian chocolate truffles are a little on the bitter side |
| 16:16.42 | p3nguin_ | Bah, I want the window open because the temp is 69 degrees... but the rain is flooding in! |
| 16:16.58 | p3nguin_ | blames katty for the storm |
| 16:17.09 | *** join/#asterisk atis_work (n=atis_wor@193.238.212.171) |
| 16:17.12 | Katty | p3nguin_: oh man, tell me about it. |
| 16:17.21 | Katty | p3nguin_: couldn't even get to the car without my pant legs getting SOAKED |
| 16:17.23 | p3nguin_ | katty: Are you about to float away? |
| 16:17.30 | Katty | p3nguin_: and it's /very/ irritating to have wet pant legs all day. |
| 16:17.36 | p3nguin_ | no doubt |
| 16:17.38 | Katty | p3nguin_: yesh, i should invest in a boat. |
| 16:17.51 | Katty | p3nguin_: i've heard it's going to rain all next week to :/ it's awful. |
| 16:17.57 | p3nguin_ | OH NO! |
| 16:18.10 | Katty | you guys under flash food warnings? |
| 16:18.15 | |stefan| | p3nguin_: what would make it say unknown insecure mode then ? |
| 16:18.25 | p3nguin_ | mmmmmm.... flash food.... |
| 16:18.29 | p3nguin_ | ;) |
| 16:18.44 | Katty | we are. |
| 16:18.53 | Katty | it's plastered all over the front page of our newspaper website |
| 16:18.54 | p3nguin_ | katty: I haven't heard any warnings, but I'm also not paying much attention to anything. |
| 16:19.34 | p3nguin_ | Our newspaper web sites are junk because the people are too lazy to do any work. |
| 16:20.12 | p3nguin_ | http://www.morningsentinel.com/ |
| 16:20.19 | p3nguin_ | It's been this way for about 3 years. |
| 16:21.29 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, http://pastebin.com/d17fb475, looks a lot better and it even works, thanks |
| 16:21.52 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: cool |
| 16:22.01 | p3nguin_ | xrmx__: When in doubt, be explicit. |
| 16:22.45 | xrmx__ | p3nguin_, yeah! "when in doubt, use brute force" |
| 16:22.50 | eppigy | TRABAJO |
| 16:23.21 | p3nguin_ | cleans up more rainwater |
| 16:28.37 | *** join/#asterisk kerberos_ (n=chatzill@86.55.20.50) |
| 16:28.45 | kerberos_ | hello everybody |
| 16:29.16 | kerberos_ | can someone tell me what "Spawn extension (sugarcrm, 106, 3) exited non-zero on 'Local/106@sugarcrm-7d94;2'" means ? |
| 16:31.44 | kerberos_ | anybody ? |
| 16:32.17 | Qwell | kerberos_: It means that a spawned extension existed non-zero |
| 16:32.31 | *** join/#asterisk alrs (n=lars@64.241.37.140) |
| 16:32.33 | Qwell | specifically, the channel Local/106@sugarcrm-7d94;2 |
| 16:32.42 | kerberos_ | :) |
| 16:32.46 | kerberos_ | that was literal reading :-s |
| 16:32.58 | kerberos_ | i ment what conclusion should I have after that? |
| 16:33.00 | Qwell | You're going to see that on every call.. |
| 16:33.17 | Qwell | You should conclude that there was an active call to that extension |
| 16:33.39 | kerberos_ | the thing is I think it makes an agi script on h extension run to soon |
| 16:33.43 | Qwell | without context, it doesn't mean a whole lot.. |
| 16:33.52 | kerberos_ | because the script is called when the phone is picked up and not on hangup |
| 16:34.06 | Qwell | Then your dialplan is probably wrong |
| 16:34.16 | kerberos_ | do you think you can help me ? :-/ |
| 16:34.33 | Qwell | don't msg me |
| 16:35.07 | *** join/#asterisk ariel_ (n=chatzill@63.214.236.169) |
| 16:35.07 | kerberos_ | are you willing to help or should I keep looking ? |
| 16:35.29 | Qwell | There are 256 other people in this channel. If you were to ask a question, somebody may help. |
| 16:35.33 | Qwell | ~ask |
| 16:35.34 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 16:35.49 | geneticx | ~wave |
| 16:35.50 | infobot | ACTION waves goodbye. |
| 16:36.09 | geneticx | ~asterisk |
| 16:36.10 | infobot | somebody said asterisk was a free PBX, or #asterisk on irc.freenode.net, or http://www.asterisk.org, or just like a mini-mall |
| 16:36.19 | kerberos_ | Ok but there is no specific question but a lot to tell... :| |
| 16:36.26 | geneticx | ~help |
| 16:36.52 | Qwell | infobot: no, asterisk is an open source PBX toolkit, or #asterisk on irc.freenode.net, or http://www.asterisk.org, or just like a mini-mall |
| 16:36.53 | infobot | Qwell: okay |
| 16:37.18 | russellb | it's not a PBX toolkit, it's a telephony toolkit :-) |
| 16:37.24 | Qwell | infobot: no, asterisk is an open source telephony toolkit, or #asterisk on irc.freenode.net, or http://www.asterisk.org, or just like a mini-mall |
| 16:37.25 | infobot | okay, Qwell |
| 16:37.39 | Katty | sweet |
| 16:37.44 | dlynes | russellb: nah...it's a swiss army knife |
| 16:37.45 | Qwell | russellb: better than "a free PBX" :p |
| 16:37.51 | Katty | p3nguin_: my dog made it to the front page of the southeast missourian |
| 16:38.08 | Katty | p3nguin_: well the photo section, near the bottom. |
| 16:38.10 | Katty | p3nguin_: semissourian.com |
| 16:38.16 | geneticx | why is it a telephony tookit and not a PBX ? |
| 16:38.55 | Qwell | geneticx: because it doesn't have to be a PBX |
| 16:39.12 | Qwell | Asterisk can run the phone on your toaster, if you'd like. |
| 16:39.14 | *** join/#asterisk moos3 (n=rgenthne@216.52.121.66) |
| 16:39.25 | geneticx | True True. |
| 16:40.01 | p3nguin_ | katty: Was this just a random photo submission? |
| 16:40.18 | Katty | yes. it's a photo submission for pets. |
| 16:40.24 | Katty | the higest rated ends up on the front page. |
| 16:40.29 | Katty | of course i think it just started |
| 16:40.40 | Katty | he'll likely get bumped |
| 16:41.05 | dlynes | Katty: He's the ferret? |
| 16:41.16 | eppigy | FRONT PAGE FERRET |
| 16:41.27 | Katty | no. it's in the middle of the page towards the bottom |
| 16:41.44 | Katty | http://semissourian.com/pets |
| 16:41.46 | dlynes | Katty: so he's the pitbull, then? |
| 16:42.18 | eppigy | FRONT PAGE PIT |
| 16:42.52 | dlynes | Katty: http://www.semissourian.com/blogs/1452/ |
| 16:43.02 | p3nguin_ | hmm |
| 16:43.06 | dlynes | Katty: Or is it this one? http://www.semissourian.com/story/1583288.html |
| 16:43.28 | Katty | that's riddick |
| 16:43.32 | p3nguin_ | ding ding ding |
| 16:43.42 | *** join/#asterisk Abel408 (i=42a2b66c@gateway/web/freenode/session) |
| 16:43.45 | dlynes | ah...so confusing |
| 16:43.51 | dlynes | so many front page pets |
| 16:43.54 | Katty | yes |
| 16:44.01 | p3nguin_ | How is it confusing? Look at the names of the people that submit the photos. |
| 16:44.01 | Katty | we love pets! |
| 16:44.09 | dlynes | Katty: He looks like he's part tongue |
| 16:44.19 | Abel408 | Hey everyone! For some reason my asterisk voicemail passwords are limited to 4 digits. When I type the 5th digit it just craps right out. How can I change this? |
| 16:44.39 | Katty | dlynes: i debated putting his real name in. |
| 16:44.47 | Katty | dlynes: Kaiser Riddick der Kleine Hobbit mit Waggytail |
| 16:44.59 | Katty | dlynes: i paid a small fortunate to have that on his papers too ;) |
| 16:45.23 | dlynes | Katty: damn...that's even longer than most hispanic names :) |
| 16:45.58 | ariel_ | not all hispanic's have long names |
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| 16:48.37 | Abel408 | Hey everyone! For some reason my asterisk voicemail passwords are limited to 4 digits. When I type the 5th digit it just craps right out. It doesn't even give me an error message. It just hangs up the phone. Anyone know whats going on? |
| 16:49.11 | p3nguin_ | Didn't you _just_ say that? |
| 16:49.41 | jaytee | no, he said it differently at the end this time |
| 16:49.46 | p3nguin_ | bleh |
| 16:50.25 | Abel408 | figured I would be more desciptive |
| 16:53.31 | Qwell | if you wanted to be descriptive you'd pastebin some console output and the voicemail.conf entry.. |
| 16:54.51 | *** join/#asterisk baijum (n=baiju@122.166.89.147) |
| 16:55.29 | moos3 | how can I check if a fax as been sent using hylafax |
| 16:58.08 | [TK]D-Fender | moos3: considered looking at Hylafax logs? |
| 16:59.16 | carrar | thats crazy talk |
| 17:00.37 | kazaa_lite | how can i see usage count of some module in asterisk?? |
| 17:02.28 | hardwire | kazaa_lite: module.. show. |
| 17:02.37 | kazaa_lite | thnx |
| 17:08.18 | *** join/#asterisk wilfredo_ (n=wilfredo@190.12.74.158) |
| 17:09.26 | wilfredo_ | someone speaks Spanish |
| 17:11.58 | *** join/#asterisk kerberos_ (n=chatzill@86.55.20.50) |
| 17:12.44 | kerberos_ | When I get an incoming call and I run core show channels it shows me 4 channels opened (for one call) Is that normal ? |
| 17:13.07 | kerberos_ | ~help |
| 17:13.42 | p3nguin_ | Try sip show channels. |
| 17:14.15 | p3nguin_ | (if you're using SIP) |
| 17:15.09 | Qwell | kerberos_: if that's how you set it up, yes |
| 17:16.18 | kerberos_ | what would be the correct set up? |
| 17:16.43 | Qwell | depends on what you're trying to do.. |
| 17:17.37 | wilfredo_ | I have a problem with the number of files opened asterisk |
| 17:17.49 | imcdona | Anyone know how gizmo is able to route calls to cell carriers via VoIP? Wouldn't it make sense for all the cell carriers to make their sip proxies public? |
| 17:18.09 | Qwell | imcdona: Nope. How would they charge outrageous fees if they did? |
| 17:18.45 | imcdona | They would SAVE money. That doesn't mean they would have to drop users rates |
| 17:18.54 | imcdona | I mean look at SMS rates. |
| 17:19.29 | *** join/#asterisk killfill (n=killfill@200.63.96.244) |
| 17:19.31 | killfill | hi |
| 17:20.02 | killfill | is it possible to configure things in asterisk, so from my phone can answear a call that is rinning in another phone? |
| 17:20.14 | [TK]D-Fender | killfill: Yes |
| 17:20.16 | killfill | (not in same ringgroup, just plain sip extension) |
| 17:20.21 | [TK]D-Fender | killfill: Go lookup "pickup" on the WIKI |
| 17:20.39 | [TK]D-Fender | killfill: And do not use the words "SIP" in conjunction with "extenions" |
| 17:20.43 | [TK]D-Fender | extension* |
| 17:20.47 | *** join/#asterisk ryduh (n=ryduh@204.16.143.186) |
| 17:21.20 | killfill | greate, thanks! |
| 17:22.56 | *** join/#asterisk baijum (n=baiju@122.166.89.147) |
| 17:27.28 | killfill | hm.. from zap doesnt work.. |
| 17:29.51 | *** join/#asterisk cthompson (n=ct@MW-ESR1-74-215-13-158.fuse.net) |
| 17:30.47 | *** join/#asterisk tamiel (n=tamiel@abo-243-152-68.bdx.modulonet.fr) |
| 17:33.02 | killfill | i see Pickup("SIP/31-088e8000", "32") in new stack, == Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/31-088e8000' status is 'UNKNOWN' |
| 17:33.11 | killfill | when trying to pickup from a zap call |
| 17:37.03 | [TK]D-Fender | killfill: Show me an extension "32" thats ringing. |
| 17:37.14 | *** join/#asterisk Lantizia (n=stevem@212.57.232.254) |
| 17:37.26 | Lantizia | Lo, anyone managed to get Cisco firmware onto a Polycom phone? |
| 17:38.03 | Qwell | ...why would you want to do that? |
| 17:39.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: chan_masochism.so |
| 17:39.10 | killfill | [TK]D-Fender: http://www.pastebin.ca/1649490 |
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| 17:39.46 | [TK]D-Fender | killfill: not in the same context <- |
| 17:40.54 | killfill | Oh, right :) |
| 17:41.41 | killfill | thanks! |
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| 17:42.42 | Lantizia | Qwell, why not? |
| 17:43.40 | Qwell | Lantizia: Because they are completely different devices? Because Cisco firmware is complete crap? Because Polycom firmware is awesome? |
| 17:43.48 | Lantizia | Qwell, a Cisco 7936 is the same as a Polycom 4000... so it'd be handy to know how to swap between firmwares |
| 17:44.13 | Qwell | Says who? |
| 17:44.17 | Lantizia | ME |
| 17:44.22 | Qwell | You are wrong. |
| 17:44.26 | Lantizia | Prove it |
| 17:44.36 | Qwell | See the Cisco logo on the 7936? |
| 17:44.42 | Qwell | That makes it not a Polycom. |
| 17:44.50 | Lantizia | Qwell, it's manufactured by Polycom |
| 17:44.58 | Qwell | That doesn't mean it's the same. |
| 17:45.07 | Lantizia | It's the same hardware as a Polycom 4000 |
| 17:45.15 | Qwell | I assure you, it's not. |
| 17:45.19 | Lantizia | Go be pedantic elsewhere |
| 17:46.04 | Rodolfo_car | somebody know how i can identify the callerid or channel from exten who made transfer(ATXFER)? |
| 17:46.54 | *** join/#asterisk markit (n=marco@88-149-177-66.static.ngi.it) |
| 17:47.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: Wha makes it "the same hardware? |
| 17:47.10 | markit | hi, any debian manteiner here by chance? |
| 17:47.13 | Qwell | [TK]D-Fender: because they look the same |
| 17:47.24 | Lantizia | [TK]D-Fender, I've been told by the suppliers it is |
| 17:47.27 | [TK]D-Fender | lanzIf they use a polycom plastic shell & MIC what does that say about the CIRCUITRY on it? Specifically the processor? |
| 17:47.32 | Qwell | Lantizia: They are wrong. |
| 17:47.38 | Lantizia | PROVE IT |
| 17:47.44 | [TK]D-Fender | And the mere statement proves nothing |
| 17:48.01 | Qwell | Lantizia: Do you *really* want to argue with me about this? |
| 17:48.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: YOU prove it. You're coming in here with hearsay and a state of denial |
| 17:48.24 | Lantizia | It's not hear say, an official distributer of polycom hardware has told me in good faith that those two models are the same |
| 17:48.33 | Qwell | Well, they are wrong. |
| 17:48.37 | Lantizia | the firmware however is not am I'm figuring out how to swap between |
| 17:48.43 | Lantizia | Qwell, and you know this HOW? |
| 17:48.49 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: Go take one apart for yourself. Noone else is going to bother |
| 17:49.07 | Lantizia | [TK]D-Fender, I don't need to! I know they're the same |
| 17:49.20 | Qwell | Lantizia: There is a *HUGE* difference between "they are the same" and "they are *COMPLETELY* identical" |
| 17:49.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: You don't "know" anything. you heard something you're taking on good faith. |
| 17:49.46 | Lantizia | OK I come in here and say they are the same and I'm conviced of it |
| 17:49.50 | Lantizia | YOU two are convinced they are not |
| 17:49.56 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: And if the physical hardware is the same you'd probably have to completely reflash the ROM chips externally. |
| 17:49.57 | Lantizia | I have at least a source backing me up here |
| 17:50.03 | Lantizia | What do YOU have to prove your claims? |
| 17:50.17 | Lantizia | So far sod all |
| 17:50.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: And youa re convinced they are and that you can just swap firmwares easily. You have nothing to show and are wasting our time |
| 17:50.44 | Qwell | considering the 7936 is an upgrade from the 7935... |
| 17:50.49 | Lantizia | [TK]D-Fender, I didn't say it would be easy! |
| 17:51.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: Go take apat a Cisco 7936 and try to copy the ROM's on it |
| 17:51.20 | [TK]D-Fender | parat* |
| 17:51.23 | [TK]D-Fender | apart* |
| 17:51.34 | Lantizia | I don't want to take it apaert |
| 17:51.38 | Qwell | It's not possible. Move on. |
| 17:51.40 | Lantizia | or apat |
| 17:51.42 | Lantizia | or parat |
| 17:51.59 | Lantizia | You lot are wasting my time when I could be looking elsewhere |
| 17:52.00 | *** part/#asterisk Lantizia (n=stevem@212.57.232.254) |
| 17:52.03 | [TK]D-Fender | Lantizia: Yes we can see you're serious about this endeavor. |
| 17:52.07 | Qwell | idiot |
| 17:52.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Yup, in Tropic Thunder terms he went "full retard" |
| 17:52.47 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: "No, YOU prove my radical claim is false" |
| 17:52.58 | TSM | Lantizia: play, see if you can put firmware on it, if it breaks dont blaim anyone, but if it works, post it up for all else to see and Cisco may sue you :p |
| 17:53.00 | Qwell | rolls his eyes |
| 17:53.16 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: And I could imagine that they are physically the same... execpt for the ROM on it |
| 17:53.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: Which would PREVENT a Cisco load from going onto it |
| 17:53.40 | TSM | Lantizia: its a cisco unit so at the least it may have a diffrent POE wiring for legacy |
| 17:53.53 | Qwell | TSM: he left, but, DING! |
| 17:53.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Qwell: But if they were the same and the chips transplanted... sure.. |
| 17:54.00 | [TK]D-Fender | TSM: he LEFT <- |
| 17:54.43 | TSM | i know, anyway it may be a stupid unit and load firmware from polycom as long as you call it the same thing that the cisco would expect, but i would not want to run that risk and brick my unit |
| 17:54.57 | TSM | ebay |
| 17:55.05 | TSM | :) |
| 17:55.10 | Qwell | TSM: plus there's the whole legal aspect of it. |
| 17:55.24 | TSM | as i said, just try that Cisco here in the UK, pha |
| 17:55.31 | Qwell | and...my original question |
| 17:55.34 | Qwell | WTF WOULD YOU WANT TO? |
| 17:55.58 | TSM | i would try, dont care, i bought the unit and its mine |
| 17:56.05 | Qwell | but...Cisco firmware is crap. |
| 17:56.07 | TSM | the sue may come from polycom, not cisco |
| 17:56.15 | TSM | as i keep hearing |
| 17:56.30 | TSM | over priced phones |
| 17:56.51 | [TK]D-Fender | [13:37]<Lantizia>Lo, anyone managed to get Cisco firmware onto a Polycom phone? <- he never said **SIP** |
| 17:57.03 | [TK]D-Fender | I'll be he's trying to avoid paying the "Cisco Tax" |
| 17:57.04 | Qwell | oh dear god |
| 17:57.06 | TSM | ahhh, my woops |
| 17:57.24 | hardwire | TSM: that's not a real word. |
| 17:57.28 | [TK]D-Fender | smells Skinny |
| 17:57.45 | TSM | why oh why, hees got cisco switches, he knew he needs to keep money in the kitty for cisco stuff that never wants to speak to anything else |
| 17:57.51 | *** join/#asterisk Tim_Toady (n=moi@adsl57-176.kln.forthnet.gr) |
| 17:58.03 | TSM | cisco call manager |
| 17:58.52 | TSM | i could buy a car for one of thoes |
| 17:58.58 | *** join/#asterisk outtolunc (n=me@c-98-248-96-110.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:59.11 | TSM | or a few bikes, i prefer the bikes |
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| 18:00.02 | *** part/#asterisk markit (n=marco@88-149-177-66.static.ngi.it) |
| 18:01.28 | Katty | ATTENTION |
| 18:01.31 | Katty | I HAS EGGNOGS |
| 18:01.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: YOU DOES?! |
| 18:02.22 | Katty | yesh |
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| 18:03.02 | superbeef | are there channel logs somewhere? I need to find the pastebin links i dumped a few days ago lol |
| 18:03.55 | *** join/#asterisk ecrane (n=ecrane@o1-69-19-166-10.static.o1.com) |
| 18:04.37 | [TK]D-Fender | superbeef: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23asterisk/ |
| 18:05.30 | superbeef | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks, you're full of excellence |
| 18:06.51 | leifmadsen | [TK]D-Fender: is there one of those cool IRC graphs for this channel? |
| 18:06.57 | *** part/#asterisk cthompson (n=ct@MW-ESR1-74-215-13-158.fuse.net) |
| 18:09.05 | Katty | leifmadsen: do you suppose egg nog would be considered a dairy, or a protein? |
| 18:09.15 | [TK]D-Fender | leifmadsen: Could be... but I'm not aware if there are... |
| 18:09.30 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Dairy = protein <-\ |
| 18:09.52 | superbeef | is there no longer the intense debug with IAX in asterisk 1.4? |
| 18:09.57 | *** join/#asterisk albertoandrade (n=albertoa@189.4.48.141) |
| 18:10.07 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: err |
| 18:10.10 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: well yes...but... |
| 18:10.48 | Katty | nevermind. primary ingredient is milk. |
| 18:10.52 | Katty | it will be filed as dairy group |
| 18:10.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: I LIKE BIG BUTTS AND I CANNOT LIE! YOU OTHER BROTHERS CAN'T DENY! |
| 18:11.05 | Katty | ^_- |
| 18:11.13 | Katty | i only got 1/2 c of it |
| 18:11.26 | Katty | it's not like i'm chugging a 16 oz glass worth :P |
| 18:11.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: primary ingredient in egg nog is SUGAR |
| 18:11.56 | leifmadsen | I just read Katty's last two lines in the same rhythm as the next 2 lines of the song by [TK]D-Fender |
| 18:12.33 | [TK]D-Fender | leifmadsen: I'm the hip-hop hippopotamus, my lyrics are bottomless! |
| 18:14.31 | Katty | great, now you have THAT stuck in my head |
| 18:15.03 | Katty | YOU"RE THE MOTHA FLIPPIN |
| 18:15.45 | Katty | grooves |
| 18:16.03 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: do you like the omgshoes song? |
| 18:16.31 | outtolunc | notices my head in bop'n and there isn't any music playing |
| 18:16.35 | *** join/#asterisk atis_work (n=atis_wor@193.238.212.171) |
| 18:16.48 | Katty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCF3ywukQYA <- omgshoes |
| 18:23.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Brain...damage... |
| 18:23.26 | *** part/#asterisk alrs (n=lars@64.241.37.140) |
| 18:24.01 | TSM | will MusicOnHold only work at 8k? |
| 18:24.06 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: your mom. |
| 18:24.18 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: <3 |
| 18:24.40 | [TK]D-Fender | TSM: ? |
| 18:25.00 | TSM | ahh just realised that asterisk does not show G722.1 yet, G722 is only 8k |
| 18:25.44 | moos3 | can anyone help me get my iaxmodem to send faxes |
| 18:25.58 | TSM | just playing with streaming MOH to my polys that have G722.1 but it will only go at 8k because of no G722.1 i think |
| 18:26.07 | TSM | duno, may be wrong |
| 18:27.47 | [TK]D-Fender | TSM: Correct |
| 18:28.00 | [TK]D-Fender | TSM: No WB G.722 |
| 18:28.10 | TSM | WB ? |
| 18:28.21 | TSM | ~ WB |
| 18:28.22 | infobot | thx |
| 18:28.23 | TSM | ? WB |
| 18:28.59 | Qwell | G.722 is 16kHz O.o |
| 18:29.40 | TSM | so just wandering why i can only stream 8k to the phone, if i go 16k the playback is slow, the phone is showing HD as i put allow=g722 |
| 18:30.37 | Qwell | How are you creating your files? |
| 18:30.49 | TSM | streaming mpg123, the source is 160Kbps |
| 18:30.52 | moos3 | anyone a hylafax user? |
| 18:31.02 | Qwell | Asterisk doesn't support 16kHz MP3s |
| 18:31.38 | TSM | 16kHz SLN? |
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| 18:32.00 | Qwell | yes, but mpg123 may not support 16kHz, which would be an oversight |
| 18:32.50 | TSM | its marked up as a mp3 player |
| 18:33.20 | TSM | no probs anyway |
| 18:33.22 | dlynes | TSM: mpg123 is not part of the asterisk distribution; it's part of asterisk-addons for a reason |
| 18:33.33 | dlynes | TSM: because it's not officially supported |
| 18:34.41 | Qwell | TSM: res_musiconhold.c |
| 18:34.43 | Qwell | res = 8 * MOH_MS_INTERVAL; |
| 18:34.53 | Qwell | You may or may not be able to make that a 16. I have NO clue what will actually happen. |
| 18:34.58 | russellb | mpg123 isn't a part of addons, either btw |
| 18:35.04 | russellb | it's its own thing |
| 18:35.15 | TSM | ahh, no probs, just playing around and seeing limitations |
| 18:35.52 | Qwell | no, I'm way wrong |
| 18:36.26 | Qwell | russellb: so yeah, it looks like MoH might have trouble with 16kHz. in at least the streaming case |
| 18:36.44 | dlynes | russellb: oops...got it mixed up with format_mp3.so |
| 18:36.48 | moos3 | can anyone help me get dailtone on my iaxmodem |
| 18:36.49 | russellb | Qwell: perhaps. |
| 18:37.52 | dlynes | moos3: you're not getting dialtone because it's not registering to the asterisk box; it's not registering because you don't have an entry in iax.conf for it, you've got the wrong hostname, the wrong username, or the wrong password |
| 18:38.25 | moos3 | nope it registers fine, and its in my iax.conf |
| 18:38.44 | moos3 | I can receive faxes with out issue, I can't send |
| 18:40.19 | Qwell | TSM: in your moh config, are you setting format=slin16? |
| 18:40.28 | Qwell | (or sln16..I'm not sure which is correct) |
| 18:40.48 | TSM | nop |
| 18:41.05 | Qwell | try it |
| 18:41.32 | moos3 | I have even defined trunk=yes on my iax.conf |
| 18:42.57 | *** join/#asterisk Ad-Hoc (n=nimbus@ppp177-15.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 18:44.08 | Katty | leifmadsen: so you'll be interested to know that my week long testing results are in. |
| 18:44.19 | Katty | leifmadsen: i need to take b complex and d |
| 18:44.33 | moos3 | anyone else want to take a shot at my iaxmodem with no dailtone |
| 18:44.33 | TSM | @Quell: seems not to do anything |
| 18:44.41 | Katty | leifmadsen: on average, i'm pretty good on everything else. including c |
| 18:44.51 | Katty | leifmadsen: but the Bs are water soluable...and i'm just not getting enough of those. |
| 18:44.58 | TSM | there are some weird issues with HD codecs, my fesitval is all messed up, i know its nothing to do with asterisk |
| 18:45.07 | Rodolfo_car | somebody know how i can identify the callerid or channel from exten who made transfer(ATXFER)? |
| 18:52.37 | Deeewayne | offers Katty a crispety, crunchety, peanut-buttery Butterfinger |
| 18:54.40 | Katty | :P |
| 18:54.45 | Katty | those hurt my teeth, actually |
| 18:55.08 | Katty | gets stuck in the toofs, and oh oww! |
| 18:56.36 | Deeewayne | you can always give it to riddick |
| 18:57.05 | Qwell | or put them in a milkshake |
| 18:57.10 | Qwell | that's what I had yesterday :D |
| 18:57.14 | Deeewayne | mmmm |
| 18:57.18 | Deeewayne | waves to Qwell |
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| 18:59.46 | wcselby | o/ |
| 19:00.03 | atis_work | Rodolfo_car: perhaps you might rephrase your question if you get no answer |
| 19:00.18 | Katty | i bet riddick would eat a butterfinger. |
| 19:00.20 | Katty | hugs wcselby |
| 19:00.25 | Katty | wcselby: i love your little wave :> |
| 19:00.41 | Katty | wcselby: it's just so cute :> |
| 19:02.57 | wcselby | Katty - :) old IRC habits die hard |
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| 19:06.08 | moos3 | anyone sending faxes with a iaxmodem? |
| 19:06.18 | atis_work | moos3: not anymore |
| 19:06.27 | timeshell_atwork | yes |
| 19:06.29 | atis_work | what's wrong? |
| 19:06.42 | moos3 | I'm getting hylafax emails about no dailtone |
| 19:06.58 | moos3 | but I can get faxes with out issue |
| 19:07.34 | atis_work | what's in status/ttyIAX? |
| 19:08.30 | moos3 | HylaFAX scheduler on pbx1.symplicity.com: Running |
| 19:08.30 | moos3 | Modem ttyIAX0 (+1.703.373.7032): Running and idle |
| 19:08.31 | moos3 | Modem ttyIAX1 (+1.703.373.7043): Running and idle |
| 19:09.05 | atis_work | uff, no idea then |
| 19:10.27 | moos3 | heres what is in the logs |
| 19:10.54 | moos3 | http://pastie.org/677177 |
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| 19:12.00 | jaytee | Butterfingers are good but I still prefer the toasted coconut peanuty crunchy goodness of a Zagnut bar. |
| 19:12.13 | beek | Mmmm.... agreed jaytee |
| 19:13.25 | jaytee | I'm so sick of this rain.... I want a nap. |
| 19:17.56 | ryduh | jaytee: Come to CA! No rain for us here |
| 19:19.10 | jaytee | just earthquakes, mudslides, endless fires and women with fake boobs and ionospheric expectations |
| 19:19.37 | Katty | :< |
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| 19:20.01 | ryduh | jaytee: you're generalizing. many places in CA do not have any of those problems |
| 19:20.26 | jaytee | ryduh, that's true, most of the women in NorCal have real breasts |
| 19:20.33 | ryduh | except for minor earthquakes.. but everywhere has some minor earthquakes ( < 2 on the Richter) |
| 19:20.38 | Katty | real ones are nicer. |
| 19:21.03 | ryduh | my girl is from NorCal :) |
| 19:22.03 | jaytee | ryduh, you're Department of Transportation hired a schizophrenic back in the late 60's and gave him a bottle with a 1000 doses of very strong LSD and told him, "Take 2 of these a day and now go design us a freeway system!" |
| 19:23.08 | Katty | hahahahahaha |
| 19:23.09 | ryduh | jaytee: WAIT WHAT? You're telling me he designed the freeway system in 500 days?! |
| 19:23.14 | ryduh | lol |
| 19:23.40 | ryduh | jaytee: Also a problem of high population areas. not a problem in smaller cities/towns |
| 19:23.42 | jaytee | no, he did it in 3 weeks, it was the off ramps that took all the extra time |
| 19:24.21 | jaytee | the only profitable businesses in Cali are marijuana dispensaries and look at the joke you have for a Governor! |
| 19:24.44 | Katty | now now jaytee |
| 19:24.51 | Katty | i would think there's more profitable business |
| 19:24.53 | *** join/#asterisk voipmonk (n=voipmonk@66.49.238.52) |
| 19:24.53 | Katty | like plastic surgeons |
| 19:24.59 | jaytee | and porno movies |
| 19:25.14 | jaytee | although even that business has taken a hit lately |
| 19:25.32 | Katty | i wouldn't mind a porno that had a budget |
| 19:25.40 | hesco | is there a character length limit on a callerID string? |
| 19:25.41 | Katty | but all the ones i've seen are just...not classy. |
| 19:26.09 | Katty | hesco: i think your telco puts a limit on it. |
| 19:26.20 | Katty | hesco: on the name string, at least. |
| 19:26.26 | Katty | hesco: number is probably 10 digit standard. |
| 19:26.31 | Katty | hesco: but i'm sure you knew that. |
| 19:26.38 | hesco | any idea what that limit is generally, in round numbers? |
| 19:26.41 | ryduh | I think it's obvious porno's do not need class to sell |
| 19:26.53 | ryduh | how much more would you pay for a porno if it had class? |
| 19:27.01 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:24]<jaytee>the only profitable businesses in Cali are marijuana dispensaries and look at the joke you have for a Governor! <- don't forget Minnesota... |
| 19:27.03 | hesco | right, but callerID can also include more than just the phone number |
| 19:27.07 | atis_work | hesco: don't forget the country code |
| 19:27.51 | Katty | well considering i don't buy them right now... |
| 19:27.51 | Katty | it probably doesn't apply regardless. |
| 19:27.51 | Katty | i'm just sayin |
| 19:27.56 | jaytee | [TK]D-Fender, Jesse Ventura is no longer Govenor of Minnesota |
| 19:28.15 | [TK]D-Fender | jaytee: dosn't make it less of a joke... |
| 19:28.20 | atis_work | hesco: i usually use size 20 chars |
| 19:28.24 | jaytee | true |
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| 19:38.15 | moos3 | what does this mean chan_iax2.c:4474 handle_call_token: Call rejected, CallToken Support required. If unexpected, resolve by placing address 127.0.0.1 in the calltokenignore list or setting user fax1 requirecalltoken=no |
| 19:38.30 | atis_work | moos3: upgrade.txt |
| 19:38.39 | atis_work | there was protocol change recently in IAX |
| 19:38.40 | moos3 | ok |
| 19:38.56 | moos3 | installed from rpms dont have the Upgrade.txt |
| 19:39.16 | atis_work | calltokenignore=127.0.0.1\nrequirecalltoken=no |
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| 19:39.40 | moos3 | ok so that will allow calls out? |
| 19:39.51 | atis_work | that will allow registration of iaxmodems |
| 19:41.05 | moos3 | ok thanks, which should now allow them to dail out? |
| 19:41.50 | atis_work | yeah, probably.. altogh it's weird that they were able to receive calls |
| 19:43.09 | moos3 | all i get Your job to 14132949891 was not sent because: |
| 19:43.09 | moos3 | No local dialtone |
| 19:43.09 | moos3 | The job will be retried at 15:46 |
| 19:43.41 | atis_work | moos3: did you added both those settings to iax.conf? |
| 19:43.50 | moos3 | yeah |
| 19:44.12 | atis_work | no more chan_iax errors? |
| 19:44.56 | moos3 | [2009-10-30 15:41:53] ERROR[28183]: chan_iax2.c:4474 handle_call_token: Call rejected, CallToken Support required. If unexpected, resolve by placing address 127.0.0.1 in the calltokenignore list or setting user fax1 requirecalltoken=no |
| 19:44.57 | atis_work | uff, damn, it took 15 minutes to send 50 pages of extensions.conf through T38 :( |
| 19:45.09 | atis_work | moos, reloaded chan_iax? |
| 19:45.21 | moos3 | yeah issued a reload |
| 19:46.16 | atis_work | moos3: http://pastebin.ca/1649633 |
| 19:46.36 | atis_work | i have it for both general and modem |
| 19:46.59 | atis_work | however i don't use iaxmodems anymore |
| 19:47.08 | atis_work | they are just there to cheat hylafax |
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| 19:51.56 | PMantis | Hi, trying to compile * in a chroot that has a different kernel than the host computer. It's complaining. uname -r reports my laptop's kernel, not the kernel in the chroot. Any way to fix? |
| 19:52.16 | atis_work | PMantis: alias? |
| 19:52.21 | bmoraca | quizzno's double cheese cheesesteak is pretty decent |
| 19:52.26 | moos3 | I issued a asterisk -rx "reload" I'm still getting this error [2009-10-30 15:50:14] ERROR[28179]: chan_iax2.c:4474 handle_call_token: Call rejected, CallToken Support required. If unexpected, resolve by placing address 127.0.0.1 in the calltokenignore list or setting user fax requirecalltoken=no |
| 19:52.40 | atis_work | moos3: try "module reload chan_iax2.so" |
| 19:52.44 | PMantis | atis_work: A bash alias will work to fix what make sees? |
| 19:52.48 | atis_work | or "restart now" |
| 19:53.03 | atis_work | PMantis: i haven't tested that, but it could work |
| 19:53.31 | moos3 | i would issue a restart but I'll lose my phones |
| 19:53.48 | atis_work | moos3: "module reload" shoudl defineately help |
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| 19:53.57 | moos3 | k |
| 19:54.27 | atis_work | however just "reload" also seems to reload chan_iax |
| 19:55.01 | moos3 | its back |
| 19:55.04 | moos3 | [2009-10-30 15:54:50] ERROR[28184]: chan_iax2.c:4474 handle_call_token: Call rejected, CallToken Support required. If unexpected, resolve by placing address 127.0.0.1 in the calltokenignore list or setting user fax1 requirecalltoken=no |
| 19:55.23 | atis_work | moos3: what's your iax.conf? |
| 19:56.43 | atis_work | moos3: does it say "Parsing '/etc/asterisk/iax.conf'" in log while reloading? |
| 19:57.08 | moos3 | http://pastie.org/677258 |
| 19:57.33 | moos3 | pbx1*CLI> module reload chan_iax2.so |
| 19:57.33 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.33 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.48 | atis_work | moos3: your bindaddr is not 127.0.0.1 |
| 19:59.10 | Katty | has pear |
| 19:59.36 | moos3 | what should I make it my public ip |
| 19:59.38 | atis_work | you can either bind it to just 127.0.0.1 for security or change calltokenignore to your ip address |
| 20:00.19 | atis_work | bind address chooses one of your network adapters |
| 20:00.35 | PMantis | atis_work: alias didn't help in this case. Now... how do I remve an alias? LOL :) |
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| 20:00.47 | atis_work | and 127.0.0.1 is special adapter |
| 20:00.54 | atis_work | PMantis: don't know |
| 20:01.02 | atis_work | PMantis: just logout from shell and log back in |
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| 20:01.33 | Anth8708 | Hey guys, I'm looking a way to make the called party info (for internal extensions only, obviously) display. I've found several references to applications that look to appear to have not made it into the code? |
| 20:01.48 | moos3 | I set it the ip on the address on the now it said pbx1*CLI> module reload chan_iax2.so |
| 20:01.48 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.48 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.48 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.48 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.48 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.48 | Anth8708 | such as CALLEDID and RemoteParty |
| 20:01.50 | moos3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.08 | Anth8708 | moos3, please use pastebin |
| 20:02.13 | Anth8708 | ~pastebin |
| 20:02.14 | infobot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 20:02.14 | moos3 | k |
| 20:02.30 | Katty | sticky :< |
| 20:02.48 | PMantis | Whoah |
| 20:03.09 | bmoraca | Anth8708: that's a little (well, ok, alot) ambiguous... |
| 20:04.20 | Anth8708 | bmoraca: i had hoped i could use sendtext as an alternative, but my polycom's don't seem to like it . . any other way to force text to show on displays via dialplan? |
| 20:04.50 | PMantis | could see a good use for that! |
| 20:05.02 | bmoraca | Anth8708: what "displays"? what text? |
| 20:05.40 | PMantis | bmoraca: he means the Polycom phone displays |
| 20:05.42 | Anth8708 | bmoraca: i have polycom 560s and 331s. i would like to use an app (like sendtext) to send called party info so it will display on the phone |
| 20:06.00 | Anth8708 | PMantis: yup. thanks. sorry, thought that was obvious from context. |
| 20:06.13 | PMantis | too. :-) |
| 20:07.02 | bmoraca | Anth8708: no, it was not obvious. there are 1500 different things you could have meant by what you said. as for the polycoms, look up their XML services. |
| 20:07.17 | Anth8708 | bmoraca: I understand. I wasn't being sarcastic. sorry:). |
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| 20:17.00 | moos3 | i'm still getting the same error about rejection of the call |
| 20:17.02 | moos3 | ideas |
| 20:17.20 | atis_work | moos3: how does your iax.conf looks now? did you changed the ip address? |
| 20:17.21 | Katty | have a snack. |
| 20:17.25 | Katty | it will help you think. |
| 20:18.18 | moos3 | http://pastie.org/677258 |
| 20:19.15 | atis_work | moos3: so, you have iaxmodem on machine 10.120.100.40 |
| 20:19.28 | atis_work | which is on completely different network? |
| 20:19.48 | moos3 | thats the ip of the asterisk box itself |
| 20:20.14 | atis_work | moos3: then why do you have bindaddr=192.168.0.1 at the very beginning? |
| 20:20.23 | moos3 | thats commented out |
| 20:20.35 | atis_work | aaah, |
| 20:20.39 | moos3 | lol |
| 20:21.23 | atis_work | moos3: do you use iax for something else except fax? |
| 20:21.45 | atis_work | moos3: just try clean config as i have: http://pastebin.ca/1649633 |
| 20:22.12 | moos3 | yeah I use it for a couple of phones too |
| 20:22.15 | atis_work | moos3: i suspect it could be important that "calltokenignore" is in general section |
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| 20:27.27 | moos3 | it can't set the bind ip and port on reload |
| 20:29.35 | Katty | has anyone seen jblack? |
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| 20:35.31 | scalex000 | hello there, what its mean this [Oct 30 16:35:06] NOTICE[18700]: chan_iax2.c:8382 socket_process: Packet Decrypt Failed! |
| 20:36.10 | russellb | It means that it failed to decrypt a packet? |
| 20:37.28 | scalex000 | russellb, this doesnt matter with connection |
| 20:38.24 | jaytee | quittin time, be back later |
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| 20:41.03 | moos3 | atis_work: still no dail tone on my fax modems |
| 20:41.57 | moos3 | astis_work: now I get his [2009-10-30 16:41:12] NOTICE[28182]: chan_iax2.c:9782 socket_process: Rejected connect attempt from 127.0.0.1, request '14132949891@fax' does not exist |
| 20:42.29 | wcselby | corporate bureaucracy - gotta love it! |
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| 20:53.35 | moos3 | what the fuck does -- Extension '7032' in context 'incoming-did' from '8009806858' does not exist. Rejecting call on channel 0/1, span 1 |
| 20:53.37 | moos3 | that mean |
| 20:53.40 | LemensTS | anyone know why if im running a phpagi script, if i let it run until the end it will exit and return to the diaplan and keep running the dialplan. But if i exit out of it by the php cmd 'exit;', than it exits the script and doesnt continue into the dialplan. |
| 20:53.44 | scalex000 | hey, guys I have problem now when someone put on hold a call they can not pickup again the customer continue on hold, this is between Nortel and Asterisk using SIP |
| 20:54.31 | Katty | Dear Universe, thank you for Puffs with Vicks. Love, Katty |
| 21:03.51 | p3nguin_ | moos3: It's in plain English. What do _you_ think it means? |
| 21:05.08 | moos3 | yeah I figured it out |
| 21:05.47 | moos3 | but heres what is i happening when my iaxmodem is getting a call for a fax http://pastie.org/677356 any ideas why I'm not getting any faxes now or can send a fax to safe my life |
| 21:06.35 | moos3 | here is the hylafax log for that call http://pastie.org/677358 |
| 21:06.47 | moos3 | it was working and I dont know why its not now |
| 21:07.19 | jblack | poor catty |
| 21:07.23 | jblack | katty, that is. heh |
| 21:07.42 | p3nguin_ | Almost the same thing, right? :) |
| 21:08.10 | jblack | I need to make friends. Where does someone do that |
| 21:08.26 | moos3 | anyone on my hylafax+iaxmodem issue |
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| 21:08.47 | Katty | jblack: there you are |
| 21:09.00 | jblack | Where? |
| 21:10.36 | Katty | jblack: i have successfully boosted all my nutrient deficiences except for the Bs and D |
| 21:10.53 | Katty | jblack: gonna take a bcomplex and D |
| 21:10.55 | jblack | Yay! |
| 21:11.04 | Katty | jblack: and get some day lights |
| 21:11.07 | jblack | Tellin ya, for D, just go outside. :) |
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| 21:15.40 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o leifmadsen] by ChanServ |
| 21:18.56 | Katty | jblack: that's not always going to happen tho |
| 21:19.05 | Katty | jblack: especially when the weather is craptastic, and winter is coming on :/ |
| 21:19.18 | Katty | jblack: i cannot convince myself to stand outside in the cold for any reason |
| 21:19.19 | jblack | Ok, ok, ok. |
| 21:19.42 | jblack | btw, if you have trouble finding a "daylight", check pet stores for UV lights. =) |
| 21:19.49 | jblack | just be careful |
| 21:20.47 | Katty | hmm. |
| 21:20.52 | Katty | i'll get me a lizard lamp ;P |
| 21:21.23 | jblack | It might work, a lizard bulb in the bathroom... (lots of short exposures!) |
| 21:21.34 | jblack | I'd just be careful about the wavelengths. |
| 21:22.34 | Katty | i'm going to talk to our Furniture Specialist here |
| 21:22.39 | Katty | he has a whole catalog of lights. |
| 21:22.43 | Katty | he will find a good one for me. |
| 21:23.06 | Katty | goes to hunt said person down |
| 21:23.09 | jblack | Apparently, people want UVA |
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| 21:23.52 | jblack | durh. cmere wikipedia |
| 21:24.30 | jblack | look at black light on wikipedia |
| 21:25.37 | jblack | wikipedia says we want UVB, another site says we want UVA. |
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| 21:32.03 | Akiraa | Can I just buy a bunch of IP phones and use Asterisk as a software PBX? |
| 21:32.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Akiraa: Yes |
| 21:33.48 | jblack | WTF! Why can't I find antichrist in the theater, but michael jackson is everywhere? |
| 21:34.59 | [TK]D-Fender | brb |
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| 21:38.12 | Katty | returns. |
| 21:38.37 | jblack | yay |
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| 21:40.46 | Katty | hugs on jblack |
| 21:40.55 | Katty | they found me lights. |
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| 21:41.30 | Katty | p3nguin_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUFuqiOlXGg <- today's Theme Song |
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| 21:44.23 | jblack | katty: Just be careful, guessing isn't good enough. And know what your'e doing |
| 21:44.32 | jblack | I walked 4.6 miles today. |
| 21:44.51 | Katty | nice. |
| 21:44.55 | Katty | that's quite a ways (= |
| 21:45.01 | jblack | I dont' know why anyone would care, but here's my route: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=333+N+Main+St,+Wilkes-Barre,+PA+18702&daddr=3400+Wilkes+Barre+Township+Cmns,+Wilkes+Barre,+PA+18702-6846+(Target+Stores)+to:wyoming+valley+mall+to:344+Kidder+St,+Wilkes+Barre,+PA+18702-5606+(McCarthy+Tire+Service+Co:+Car+Wash+%26+Detail+Centers)+to:all+weather+golf+to:daniel+j+flood+elementary+school+to:451+N+Main+St,+Wilkes+Barre,+PA+18705-1613+(H+Mer |
| 21:45.08 | jblack | wow what a link. |
| 21:45.23 | jblack | http://tinyurl.com/ye64hwq |
| 21:46.21 | Katty | what's that darkish area under n cross valley expressway |
| 21:47.34 | jblack | shadow? |
| 21:47.42 | jblack | Oh, you mean next to river street. |
| 21:47.49 | Katty | between river and main, yes |
| 21:47.51 | jblack | That's coal |
| 21:47.58 | Katty | ah right. |
| 21:48.30 | jblack | That's a big walk for a fat guy. :) |
| 21:57.37 | Katty | i'm glad you went for a walk. |
| 21:57.45 | Katty | your body appreciates it greatly! |
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| 21:58.48 | gilevy | how do i make a variable that i can add everytime it goes through incoming |
| 21:59.03 | gilevy | and does something every nth call |
| 22:01.43 | jblack | No, my body aches and moans that I put it through the effort. |
| 22:01.44 | jblack | :P |
| 22:03.00 | Katty | psh :P |
| 22:03.13 | Katty | anywho, i've gotta scoot. they're locking the building and whatnot |
| 22:03.59 | jblack | Have a good weekend |
| 22:04.04 | jblack | Go out and have fun |
| 22:04.22 | [TK]D-Fender | gilevy: "core show function DB" |
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| 22:09.04 | gilevy | core show function DB? |
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| 22:10.27 | gilevy | ooooooooh |
| 22:10.28 | gilevy | i get it |
| 22:10.40 | gilevy | i write and read from the database |
| 22:10.46 | gilevy | thank you [TK]D-Fender |
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| 22:29.10 | wideruled | whats the command to not show verbose logs in asterisk -r? |
| 22:29.14 | wideruled | i always forget |
| 22:29.47 | ecrane | Can I take the output of a system command into a variable? Like how come this fails?: exten => _300,n,Set(CALLERID(name)="${System('echo hello')}") |
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| 22:29.57 | [TK]D-Fender | wideruled: set verbose [level] |
| 22:30.25 | wideruled | ty |
| 22:34.07 | wideruled | WARNING[10006]: app_queue.c:3976 queue_exec: num cycles left in this wave: -1000 |
| 22:34.13 | wideruled | i'm googling but not finding info on this error |
| 22:34.14 | wideruled | any tips? |
| 22:34.24 | wideruled | my asterisk stopped routing calls to agents |
| 22:35.00 | loather-work | is it virtualized? |
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| 22:35.34 | el_critter | Hi |
| 22:36.20 | el_critter | do you know what the call.ringBackTimeOut parameter means on polycom phones? |
| 22:36.46 | gilevy | can i use =< with a variable in asterisk |
| 22:36.48 | gilevy | ? |
| 22:39.21 | [TK]D-Fender | ecrane: System() is an application. "core show function SHELL" |
| 22:39.58 | [TK]D-Fender | gilevy: go look in your doc folder for the CHANNELVARIABLES doc which explains variables, functions and expressions. |
| 22:40.11 | gilevy | will do thanks |
| 22:46.33 | wideruled | loather-work no it's not |
| 22:46.36 | wideruled | it's on a p4 |
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| 22:49.31 | TSM2 | el_critter: what does it say in the SIP Admin documentation on their site |
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| 22:52.15 | el_critter | TSM2: Let my paste it... |
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| 22:57.25 | el_critter | TSM2: http://pastebin.ca/1649849 |
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| 22:58.01 | darkdrgn2k3 | Hey guys, can some one recommand some decent hard phones? |
| 22:58.30 | Katty | infobot: phones |
| 22:58.30 | infobot | While personal preference will dictate which phone works best for you, general consensus on a rough order of quality and suggestibility is as follows: Polycom (any), Aastra 480i, Aastra 5i Series, Cisco 7940+, Linksys SPA-9XX, Snom, and finally everything else. Do not consider Grandstream phones. Ever. |
| 22:59.02 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: I like Cisco's 7912, 7940, and 7960, but it depends on your needs. |
| 22:59.08 | darkdrgn2k3 | i thought linksys phones arnt the best? |
| 22:59.13 | darkdrgn2k3 | uhh arnt great rather |
| 22:59.15 | Katty | prefers the polycoms |
| 22:59.22 | ecrane | [TK]D-Fender: Thanks a million, works great for me. |
| 22:59.30 | Katty | darkdrgn2k3: linksys makes several models of phones. |
| 22:59.45 | Katty | darkdrgn2k3: some of which should have Fischer Price on the side |
| 22:59.49 | p3nguin_ | For a single-line phone, the 7912 seems good to me. |
| 23:00.16 | p3nguin_ | The only complaint is that it doesn't have speakerphone (only a speaker for monitoring). |
| 23:00.27 | Katty | i don't like that it needs a license for sip. |
| 23:00.33 | [TK]D-Fender | darkdrgn2k3: And you appear to have issues reading the order of the list |
| 23:01.35 | p3nguin_ | katty: They don't need a license for SIP unless you plan to use CallManager. |
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| 23:02.02 | p3nguin_ | But who uses SIP on CM, anyway? |
| 23:02.49 | darkdrgn2k3 | so polycom > aastra? really |
| 23:02.57 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: Why not tell us what you're looking for? |
| 23:03.00 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: Polycom is the holy grail. It even has XML that works. |
| 23:03.21 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: Unlike say... a Cisco 7960. Not that I'm bitter or anything. |
| 23:03.33 | p3nguin_ | hehe |
| 23:03.59 | p3nguin_ | What XML do you need? |
| 23:04.06 | loather-work | cisco phones are painful on anything other than callmanager |
| 23:04.07 | darkdrgn2k3 | p3nguin_: at the moment we are about to launch a campaign using a VOIP incomming line. im looking for a basic phone to ring, (dont wanna deal with ata s) |
| 23:04.22 | loather-work | and even then it's a loose definition of painful, 'cause callmanager in and of itself is a new breed of pain |
| 23:04.32 | Chainsaw | loather-work: Yes, 90% of the XML API disappears off into the sunset when you flash it from SCCP to SIP. |
| 23:04.42 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: VoIP can ring any phone... so what, specifically, are you looking for in a phone? |
| 23:05.04 | Chainsaw | p3nguin_: I should just go back to these http://www.vroon.org/ringring.jpg |
| 23:05.18 | darkdrgn2k3 | p3nguin_: good audio (dont awnan sound like im in india) |
| 23:05.20 | ecrane | It's been a while since I messed with call manager. Does it still run on windows? |
| 23:05.27 | darkdrgn2k3 | p3nguin_: and call display.. thats basically it |
| 23:05.34 | darkdrgn2k3 | (i donno what else i need to look for) |
| 23:05.40 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: Do you need/want handsets? |
| 23:05.47 | Katty | gives Chainsaw a tin can and starts running string. |
| 23:05.55 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: Should there be a menu system/LCD on them? |
| 23:05.57 | darkdrgn2k3 | yes handsents, (like a regular phone) |
| 23:06.03 | darkdrgn2k3 | i have some noobs that will be using them |
| 23:06.04 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: Do you need/want speakerphone, headset, more than one line? |
| 23:06.07 | Katty | Chainsaw: idk about you, but i want a pink handset. |
| 23:06.11 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: I meant headset though. |
| 23:06.16 | darkdrgn2k3 | no... |
| 23:06.18 | Katty | Chainsaw: perhaps a salmon can would do nicely. |
| 23:06.35 | darkdrgn2k3 | p3nguin_: speakerphone would be nice. more then 1 line would be a good thing (more important than speakerphone) |
| 23:06.36 | Chainsaw | Katty: But it's a hotline phone. Isn't that the first phone you see in your head when someone says "hotline phone"? |
| 23:06.43 | darkdrgn2k3 | Chainsaw: no headset req |
| 23:06.51 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: LCD? Menu? |
| 23:07.17 | darkdrgn2k3 | Chainsaw: as long as it can display a cid well, transfer calls and put them on hold, im happy |
| 23:07.30 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: CID, how detailed? |
| 23:07.39 | darkdrgn2k3 | name and number? |
| 23:07.52 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: Name as well, okay. So just a simple LCD won't suffice. |
| 23:08.05 | darkdrgn2k3 | ok.. yeh need the name |
| 23:08.11 | darkdrgn2k3 | (gatta re-write where the call is comming from:)) |
| 23:08.25 | darkdrgn2k3 | but good to know (about simple lcd) |
| 23:08.33 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: Edging towards 7940/7960 there then. If you don't plan on writing custom menus, they're doable. And relatively cheap. |
| 23:08.45 | darkdrgn2k3 | ciscos? |
| 23:08.48 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: If you get involved with the XML at all, they're the spawn of satan. |
| 23:09.01 | darkdrgn2k3 | whats xml then? |
| 23:09.03 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: And avoid SIP firmware 8.12, they broke caller ID display severely. |
| 23:09.12 | darkdrgn2k3 | and ciscos? |
| 23:09.14 | p3nguin_ | The Cisco 7912 has name/number, single line, monitor (no speakerphone), and call waiting. |
| 23:09.31 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wireless/library/wi-voip/7960.jpg |
| 23:09.48 | Chainsaw | darkdrgn2k3: What you see on the screen there. You can supply custom XML to create those menus. |
| 23:09.48 | darkdrgn2k3 | ahh i see... |
| 23:09.55 | darkdrgn2k3 | cant think of a reason for that.. |
| 23:09.59 | Katty | idly wonders what kind of phone is in the oval office |
| 23:10.06 | darkdrgn2k3 | now if the phone could do liek screen pops :-[p |
| 23:10.08 | p3nguin_ | The 7960 is a six-line phone, where the 7940 is only two lines. |
| 23:10.09 | Chainsaw | Great. Buy some 7960 in bulk off eBay. |
| 23:10.09 | darkdrgn2k3 | thats a differnt storyr LOL |
| 23:10.31 | Katty | http://blogs.abcnews.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/04/28/obama_calls_specter.jpg <- anyone recognize this model? |
| 23:10.55 | darkdrgn2k3 | enough butons? |
| 23:11.22 | Chainsaw | Rather mundane handset. I would have expected some fully video-enabled Polycom. |
| 23:11.38 | [TK]D-Fender | [19:09]<p3nguin_>The Cisco 7912 has name/number, single line, monitor (no speakerphone), and call waiting. <- suck |
| 23:11.49 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin_: Polycom IP 321 is better spec'd. |
| 23:12.05 | loather-work | and snom 320 |
| 23:12.11 | loather-work | hell, even the 300 |
| 23:12.44 | darkdrgn2k3 | the Aastra 480i better phone or worse? |
| 23:12.47 | p3nguin_ | [tk]d-fender: For a basic phone, the 7912 is fine. You can pick them up used on ebay for $30 with a power supply. |
| 23:12.49 | darkdrgn2k3 | (seeing how its higher on the list) |
| 23:13.13 | loather-work | i've never used an aastra, but people say good things about them |
| 23:13.14 | Chainsaw | p3nguin_: darkdrgn2k3 said he wanted speakerphone. The 7912 does *not* have that. |
| 23:13.23 | Chainsaw | p3nguin_: It pretends to, which is worse then not having it at all. |
| 23:13.25 | [TK]D-Fender | DarkWas the concept of order not clear? |
| 23:13.30 | Katty | well, so far i've figured out obama uses a blackberry |
| 23:13.32 | p3nguin_ | chainsaw: Are you telling me it doesn't have it because you think I don't know? |
| 23:13.37 | Katty | not that it's very helpful.. |
| 23:14.03 | loather-work | if you can find out his PIN you can spam him |
| 23:14.18 | loather-work | it'd be funny to send things like, "i'm watching you" |
| 23:14.31 | TSM2 | One of the biggest changes between the Poly 330 and 331 is that they put in proper PoE class 1, finaly no half used switches |
| 23:14.34 | loather-work | i mean, after all -- he's on TV every night. :) |
| 23:14.43 | Katty | ehhh, yeah... |
| 23:14.54 | Katty | i'm sure his carrier has already put lots of restrictions and whatnot on his personal phone |
| 23:14.59 | Katty | and i'm also sure it's monitored. a lot. |
| 23:15.16 | loather-work | likely, yes |
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| 23:16.58 | dparker_ | greetings, I am diving into AGI and am having issues with exec background (being called via adhearsion w/ interruptible_play |
| 23:17.27 | dparker_ | I've tried asterisk-1.4.25, 1.4.26.2, and 1..6.1.6, same result |
| 23:18.21 | darkdrgn2k3 | the "Aastra 5i" better then the cisco? |
| 23:18.41 | dparker_ | if I send the DTMF tone for "1" or "2", it works (I get "200 result=49" or 50) ... any other key interrupts playback, but returns "200 result=0" instead of the key I actually pressed |
| 23:21.27 | dparker_ | any help would be greatly appreciated, as I'm not too excited about forcing all of my prompts to have exactly two options :) |
| 23:22.45 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: Some of the 5i phones might be less _than_ a Cisco counter-part, but others might be better. |
| 23:23.24 | darkdrgn2k3 | they are selling a 51i phone on ebay for 50 bucks.. |
| 23:23.28 | darkdrgn2k3 | no adapter |
| 23:23.46 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: A 53i looks comparable to a 7940, and it handles more calls than the Cisco. |
| 23:24.23 | p3nguin_ | "The 51i is ideally suited for light use small and medium business applications such as lobbies, common areas or individual user environments where single line high-quality SIP communication is required." |
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| 23:24.51 | p3nguin_ | That's the low end. |
| 23:24.59 | darkdrgn2k3 | what about the cisco 7940 |
| 23:25.07 | jblack | that sounds like marketspeak to me. |
| 23:25.18 | jblack | "high-quality SIP communication". What's That? |
| 23:25.24 | darkdrgn2k3 | LOL |
| 23:25.43 | jblack | Do they sell cheaper "medium-quality SIP communication" device? |
| 23:25.48 | Katty | no |
| 23:25.51 | jblack | Or a "value-quality" device? |
| 23:25.52 | Katty | that's called Cost Effective |
| 23:26.09 | Katty | Cost Effective Sip Solutions |
| 23:26.15 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: The 7940 is a 2-line phone, has a speakerphone, has caller ID with name, is headset ready... |
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| 23:26.37 | dparker_ | darkdrgn2k3: I have a 7940 running SIP firmware and really like it |
| 23:26.48 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: Do keep in mind that Cisco wanted you to use SCCP on the phones, so the SIP firmwares are stripped down a lot. |
| 23:26.53 | jblack | Buying from cisco is like buying from microsoft. :P |
| 23:27.04 | dparker_ | I got it at a flea market for $6 :) |
| 23:27.11 | jblack | It won't get you fired, but it'll kill a butterfly. |
| 23:27.19 | darkdrgn2k3 | so stay way from ciscos? |
| 23:27.21 | darkdrgn2k3 | and whats sccp |
| 23:27.29 | p3nguin_ | Why would you want to stay away from them? |
| 23:28.12 | p3nguin_ | They are great devices. |
| 23:28.12 | Katty | cisco and microsoft have been close partners for at least 10 years now |
| 23:28.12 | darkdrgn2k3 | so whats the problem with the firmwards? |
| 23:28.12 | p3nguin_ | SCCP is a different VoIP protocol. |
| 23:28.12 | darkdrgn2k3 | aaa |
| 23:28.12 | darkdrgn2k3 | so whats the problem with sip |
| 23:28.15 | dparker_ | asterisk supports sccp too, I've used that module for a few projects |
| 23:28.24 | Katty | i like sip. |
| 23:28.26 | dparker_ | you can do cool on-hook / off-hook tricks with it |
| 23:28.42 | dparker_ | find-me, follow-me |
| 23:28.42 | p3nguin_ | Personally, I have no complaints with my 7900 series phones and SIP. |
| 23:29.00 | p3nguin_ | I already do followme in asterisk, so it would be useless on the phone. |
| 23:29.12 | Katty | we did have them |
| 23:29.17 | Katty | people got annoyed by them...so we took them off |
| 23:30.48 | darkdrgn2k3 | ok |
| 23:30.49 | darkdrgn2k3 | http://cgi.ebay.ca/Cisco-7900-Series-VoIP-Handsets_W0QQitemZ220294601201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item334a94d9f1 |
| 23:30.59 | darkdrgn2k3 | tell me ... 5 bucks? |
| 23:31.24 | p3nguin_ | You'll want more than just a handset. |
| 23:31.27 | darkdrgn2k3 | ooo handsets LOL |
| 23:31.29 | darkdrgn2k3 | that explains it |
| 23:31.31 | p3nguin_ | You need an entire phone. |
| 23:31.38 | darkdrgn2k3 | that suck... |
| 23:31.48 | darkdrgn2k3 | "DUUU IT doesnt work guys.... " |
| 23:32.02 | p3nguin_ | For that price, you could get one, paint it pink, and send it to katty. |
| 23:32.09 | darkdrgn2k3 | :-P |
| 23:32.27 | Katty | :>>>>> |
| 23:32.58 | Katty | my company once took a copier machine to an autobody shop to get it painted seafoam green. |
| 23:33.01 | Katty | true story. |
| 23:33.44 | darkdrgn2k3 | any ideas where i could find 7900? |
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| 23:34.14 | Katty | not sure if voip-supply carries cisco stuff |
| 23:34.18 | Katty | telephone depot might |
| 23:34.31 | darkdrgn2k3 | k on a differnt note |
| 23:34.53 | darkdrgn2k3 | any one suggest company for terminating calls |
| 23:35.00 | darkdrgn2k3 | (looking to terminate calls on local land lines) |
| 23:35.10 | darkdrgn2k3 | need cid mangleing |
| 23:35.25 | Katty | telephoney depot does not carry the 7900 |
| 23:35.39 | loather-work | 888voipstore? |
| 23:35.42 | Katty | Oooh! the oven!!! |
| 23:35.46 | Katty | runs off |
| 23:37.35 | p3nguin_ | darkdrgn2k3: You can get all the 7900 series phones you need on ebay, and you can use VoIP.ms for termination. |
| 23:39.47 | Katty | :>>> |
| 23:40.05 | Katty | sweet potato! with butter! nutmeg, cinnamon, and drizzled with honey :>>> |
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| 23:41.27 | darkdrgn2k3 | p3nguin_: know of any "flat rate" fees for termination |
| 23:42.10 | darkdrgn2k3 | found onlky 2 phones on ebay |
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| 23:42.55 | aidinb | whats VOIP.ms |
| 23:43.04 | darkdrgn2k3 | aidinb: voip provider |
| 23:43.04 | aidinb | flowroute for termination |
| 23:43.09 | aidinb | ftw |
| 23:44.13 | darkdrgn2k3 | hmm voipms is only .52 c per minut termination |
| 23:44.29 | darkdrgn2k3 | flowroute it .9 |
| 23:46.36 | darkdrgn2k3 | lol i have a provider that for 40 bucks a month i get unlimited local calling (just like a regular phone line) |
| 23:46.56 | darkdrgn2k3 | i just dont know if i can get a single line of them ... |
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| 23:50.33 | jblack | 0.52c/min ? |
| 23:51.03 | jblack | They dont' even advertise that on their front page (they claim 1.05) |
| 23:51.50 | aidinb | yeah |
| 23:51.51 | aidinb | 0.01050000 |
| 23:52.02 | aidinb | is that like a bulk rate? |
| 23:52.41 | aidinb | havent found anything beating flowroute all around |
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