| 00:00.00 | OneFix_Work | ecrane: That's why they make those crippling rules |
| 00:00.17 | jblack | T-mobile seems to subscribe to DBAA rules. |
| 00:00.21 | ecrane | OneFix_Work: Bluetooth nice too; it's more private and you can sit with your phone in your pocket and have laptop connected to internet through it... |
| 00:00.28 | OneFix_Work | jblack: What android phone do you have? Moto or HTC? |
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| 00:01.15 | OneFix_Work | ecrane: Well, mine automatically gives you a 10 digit WAP key for security, unless you force it off |
| 00:02.22 | ecrane | jblack: yeah.. when I heard tmobile had a setup where you could pay to have a 'local' cell phone tower in your house by buying a device to hook up to your broadband, and that calls through it would go over your internet AND calls through it would NOT use up your minutes, I was like wow, that's actually fair compromise and solution for consumers who have crappy reception in their house and want to improve it.. |
| 00:03.03 | ecrane | s/'local' cell phone tower/local 'cell phone tower' |
| 00:03.16 | OneFix_Work | ecrane: Yea, of course, you are giving them a free "Mini Tower" too |
| 00:04.39 | ecrane | Yeah, but the reality is, getting a carrier to improve their coverage at a given area X (like your home) takes an act of god, and some areas/buildings are just bad for radio or badly aligned based on the location of the tower, so it's a fair compromise. The thing that makes it fair is you get 'free' usage when you are on it. (in my mind at least...) |
| 00:05.13 | ecrane | Without a solution like that what other options do you have as a wireless customer? Pingpong between att/sprint/etc. until you find one that happens to have good coverage for your home.... |
| 00:05.27 | ecrane | Sorry I'm more then kind of off topic here... |
| 00:06.38 | kkemp | You realize that's just wifi right and not cellular? |
| 00:07.46 | OneFix_Work | kkemp: Well, it actually provides a cellular signal and it uses your internet connection as an up-link to make calls |
| 00:08.41 | OneFix_Work | Japan has it right, they just put a mini cell site on every other telephone pole |
| 00:09.01 | jblack | ecrane: I wonder if your neighbors can use it too.... |
| 00:09.17 | OneFix_Work | But, the only reason it works there is because they have such a high density |
| 00:09.29 | kkemp | OneFix_Work: I haven't seen that. All the T-Mobile stuff I've seen is just WIFI and UMA |
| 00:09.39 | OneFix_Work | jblack: I am pretty sure you can lock them down |
| 00:09.45 | jblack | I've heard about it, kkemp |
| 00:10.03 | kkemp | And then they have their @Home service that comes with an ATA |
| 00:10.05 | OneFix_Work | kkemp: Verizon's box provides all of the services |
| 00:10.44 | OneFix_Work | http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20090126/FREE/901269980 |
| 00:11.02 | OneFix_Work | They are called femtocells |
| 00:11.37 | kkemp | T-Mobile USA has chosen a different technological route to expand indoor coverage. It sells Wi-Fi routers and phones that can place calls over Wi-Fi in addition to regular wireless calls. |
| 00:12.40 | jblack | I'm so annoyed with the limited DSL with verizon, but the alternative here is... comcast |
| 00:13.04 | OneFix_Work | jblack: BTW, if your neighbor dials 911, those devices have to work |
| 00:13.19 | kkemp | Comcast sure is fast |
| 00:14.15 | jblack | that's the upside. the downside is that their equipment is unreliable, their service unreliable, and their customer service possibly worse than the airlines |
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| 00:34.54 | citywok | I'm using mixmonitor w/ command to be executed at the end of recording, and it doesnt always appear to execute. at least it doesnt fully process and make it through the entire script, which is flawless when run from the command prompt. |
| 00:35.14 | citywok | is there something like it doesnt execute if the other end terminates the call or something crazy like that? |
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| 00:35.58 | Sargun_Screen | Can anyone recommend a good SS7/MAP/HLR vendor? |
| 00:36.51 | nny | anyone know of a good way to diagnose why this cisco 504g keeps dropping into "410 Gone" after the first call? |
| 00:36.57 | nny | i can pastebin a sip debug |
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| 00:45.47 | Get_The_Fish | hello all... this is probably simple, but what is the best way to evalute a variable that could have values 1-6 in the dialplan, with each value representing a different destination context? (not sure if that makes sense :)) |
| 00:46.00 | nny | evaluate? |
| 00:46.16 | nny | like show the variable value? |
| 00:46.33 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, so I have this field we will call type, and type 1 goes to this IVR, type 2 goes to this user, etc etc.... |
| 00:46.36 | citywok | GotoIf(VAR=1) |
| 00:46.39 | citywok | GotoIf(Var=2) |
| 00:46.48 | Get_The_Fish | and just recursively do that? |
| 00:47.07 | Get_The_Fish | ok, that's what I'm doing now, just wanted to see if anyone had a better way.... |
| 00:47.11 | citywok | thats what i do. i set mine in the order of probability too so it can run as fast as possible |
| 00:47.16 | nny | sorry parse fail on my part |
| 00:47.25 | Get_The_Fish | np |
| 00:47.34 | citywok | i dont know that asterisk has a SWITCH/CASE type deal |
| 00:48.23 | Get_The_Fish | right- in other languages you'd use a CASE statement, and I know that Asterisk doesnt have that in the standard dialplan language |
| 00:48.52 | Get_The_Fish | ok cool... I was doing that and thinking that this is kinda a crappy way of doing this, and there has to be something better :) |
| 00:49.05 | nny | god this is odd |
| 00:49.55 | nny | ok so cisco 504g. Registers, works fine for 1 call. Hangup, call back, nothing. asterisk says SIP 410 "gone". But it's still registered |
| 00:50.04 | nny | reboot, works again |
| 00:50.27 | nny | apparently putting a hub in between the router(s) (tested multiple and the phone made it work previous |
| 00:50.36 | nny | i have no clue what when where or why right now ha |
| 00:52.24 | nny | i am open for testing suggestions |
| 00:55.22 | Get_The_Fish | when you say "call back" and "1 call" are you referring to calls destined to that UA, or originating from that UA? |
| 00:55.40 | Get_The_Fish | do you have qualify set on? And can you still that switch port? |
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| 00:55.55 | nny | i have qualify yes |
| 00:56.06 | nny | i dunno, the hub may be a red herring |
| 00:56.18 | Get_The_Fish | so, if you sit and wait, will it continue to qualify? And is that a hub or a switch? |
| 00:56.32 | nny | initially it's plugged right into the router |
| 00:56.42 | nny | i'll test the qualify if left on |
| 00:56.57 | Get_The_Fish | router, as in a soho router? So you are traversing at least one NAT table? |
| 00:57.04 | nny | only one |
| 00:57.12 | Get_The_Fish | NAT sucks |
| 00:57.20 | Get_The_Fish | my monay is on the NAT |
| 00:57.36 | nny | well yes, but 3 other phones I have don't have the issue, and their similar firmware |
| 00:57.49 | Get_The_Fish | are they all on the same router? |
| 00:57.53 | nny | er they're |
| 00:58.03 | Get_The_Fish | hmmmm |
| 00:58.05 | nny | wel;, not yet. I have the tech bringing the phone here to test in house |
| 00:58.40 | Get_The_Fish | I would try to test the phone first on the same network as the asterisk box, rule out the phone in general. |
| 00:59.43 | citywok | nny, some phoens suck at nat more than others |
| 00:59.45 | nny | yeah going to do that tomorrow. i'll have to wait to see if it's NAT or something on the network there |
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| 00:59.49 | citywok | cisco phoens specifically are horrible at nat |
| 00:59.51 | Get_The_Fish | some firewall routers have issues pinholing the same ports on the inside of the NAT table to different host |
| 01:00.03 | citywok | what device are you using? |
| 01:00.05 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, NAT gets pretty sticky |
| 01:00.10 | nny | these are the rebranded SPA linksys phones, cisco 504g |
| 01:00.15 | citywok | cisco phones are meant to run cisco's protocol, not SIP |
| 01:00.16 | nny | i have a spa962 here |
| 01:00.20 | nny | well not these |
| 01:00.31 | nny | they are rebranded SPA phones, not cisco with SIP set |
| 01:00.35 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: , citywok: Asterisk does do switch/case....but asterisk calls it conditionals |
| 01:00.36 | citywok | ahh, okay |
| 01:00.54 | Get_The_Fish | oh SWEET |
| 01:00.55 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: , citywok: Try in your asterisk source distribution in the following file: doc/tex/asterisk/node106.html |
| 01:01.10 | citywok | dlynes: does it have a performance benefit versus using gotoifs? |
| 01:01.32 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: citywok: and then select the link for 'conditionals' under 'AEL Example Usage' |
| 01:01.43 | dlynes | citywok: It's the same thing |
| 01:01.54 | dlynes | citywok: AEL maps back into regular dialplan language |
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| 01:02.24 | citywok | dlynes: gotcha. i dont use AEL either |
| 01:02.46 | dlynes | citywok: the main advantage to AEL is readability, and maintainability |
| 01:03.05 | citywok | 90% of mine is generated automagically |
| 01:03.06 | dlynes | citywok: it's much easier to express complex grammars with AEL than it is with regular dialplan language |
| 01:03.23 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, I have no clue on AEL though... |
| 01:03.43 | citywok | most of my logic is scripted out through PHP so i can run kind of a dynamic dialplan/queue etc. but not actually use * realtime |
| 01:03.57 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: well, you could use perl in an agi script, too |
| 01:04.09 | Get_The_Fish | hmmm |
| 01:04.11 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: and you could use switch/case there, instead |
| 01:04.17 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: or use python, or whatever else |
| 01:04.25 | Get_The_Fish | ok, thanks for the info, much appreciated. |
| 01:05.13 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: or write your own C module for asterisk |
| 01:05.28 | Get_The_Fish | I looked at AEL at first, but decided to stick with traditional dialplan code until I got a real firm grasp on it... which is about where I am now. Still have some work to do on making sure that I have my overall design right |
| 01:05.32 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: it all depends on what it is you need to do, and how tightly you want to integrate it into asterisk |
| 01:05.45 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, C is over my head at the moment :) |
| 01:06.04 | Get_The_Fish | python is interesting though, I might have to consider that |
| 01:06.51 | Get_The_Fish | I really dont do anything that sophisticated.... wit the exception of LDAP realtime, but most of the logic is on the LDAP side of that |
| 01:08.06 | dlynes | man...it's freezing |
| 01:08.20 | dlynes | Got a chance to see the olympic torch being passed today, though :) |
| 01:08.44 | dlynes | It's kinda weird |
| 01:08.51 | dlynes | the olympic torch is made out of plastic |
| 01:08.52 | Get_The_Fish | where are you? |
| 01:09.02 | Get_The_Fish | it just has to look good on TV :) |
| 01:09.02 | dlynes | Caledonia, Ontario, Canada |
| 01:09.07 | Get_The_Fish | ah right on |
| 01:09.20 | dlynes | A little town of 9,000 people |
| 01:09.35 | dlynes | Just northeast of Cleveland |
| 01:09.49 | Get_The_Fish | beautiful country though... I've been to Ontario, liked it a lot |
| 01:09.57 | dlynes | Yeah...I love Canada |
| 01:10.02 | dlynes | wouldn't give it up for anything |
| 01:10.52 | Get_The_Fish | I just like the hot weather... hell i'm in Boulder Colorado and it's too cold for my Texas ass |
| 01:11.14 | dlynes | ah...so you were in ontario in the summer then? |
| 01:11.22 | dlynes | The humidity here sucks in the summer |
| 01:11.30 | dlynes | It's almost like Florida |
| 01:11.36 | Get_The_Fish | well, once in July and once in January. Perferred July. |
| 01:11.53 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: you didn't appreciate freezing your balls off? :) |
| 01:12.48 | Get_The_Fish | uh, no. Considering that probably the third or forth time in my life I have seen snow, it was a little too cold for me. |
| 01:13.03 | citywok | ahhh, snow is amazing. snowboarding rocks |
| 01:13.09 | Get_The_Fish | nice folks though, good people. |
| 01:13.33 | Get_The_Fish | well, now I live in Boulder, so it's quite a big shift from being south of Houston TX |
| 01:14.44 | nny | well looks like "Nat Keep alive" is the issue |
| 01:14.47 | nny | was set to yes |
| 01:15.19 | Get_The_Fish | ah, yes, the dreaded NAT.... |
| 01:15.35 | Get_The_Fish | keep in mind that disabling that may cause you issues as well.... |
| 01:15.40 | dlynes | citywok: yeah...i'm a cross country skiing man, myslef |
| 01:15.42 | citywok | funny how that happens |
| 01:15.52 | citywok | i'm not in that good of shape. i prefer to let gravity do 95% of the work |
| 01:15.54 | nny | yeah aware of that, have a page script that breaks with it off |
| 01:16.21 | citywok | i've been trying to work out more, i'm even managing to gain weight! lol |
| 01:16.51 | vk2dgy | anyone here proficient with .call files? |
| 01:17.00 | citywok | never used em. i use the AMI |
| 01:17.01 | Get_The_Fish | so, I have been in the computer idustry for over 14 years now, and I still have trouble determining exactly what SOA REALLY is... |
| 01:17.19 | Get_The_Fish | I am starting to think that it's the foutain of youth. |
| 01:17.22 | citywok | http://rscott.org/dns/soa.html |
| 01:17.28 | Get_The_Fish | *fountain |
| 01:17.42 | citywok | 14 years ago i was playing 4 square in middle school :P |
| 01:18.01 | Get_The_Fish | thanks for making me feel old there buddy |
| 01:18.18 | citywok | heh. 24 isn't that young! |
| 01:18.38 | vk2dgy | yeah, me even moreso! I quit my job at monash university computer science dept in 1983... how ancient does that make me?! |
| 01:18.43 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: service oriented architecture? |
| 01:18.53 | Get_The_Fish | lol, yeah "Start of Authority" is probably the only SOA that really exists.... I was referring to service oriented architecture |
| 01:18.57 | Get_The_Fish | yea |
| 01:19.09 | citywok | what is that? lmao |
| 01:19.14 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: yeah...the j2ee idiots come up with far too many acronyms |
| 01:19.21 | Sargun_Screen | Anyone here from SANGOMA? |
| 01:19.22 | Get_The_Fish | no kidding. |
| 01:19.26 | Sargun_Screen | duhr, capslock |
| 01:19.30 | dlynes | Sangoma rocks! |
| 01:19.50 | nny | is it wrong to use both qualify, net=yes and nat keep alive on the client? |
| 01:19.54 | nny | nat* |
| 01:19.55 | Sargun_Screen | Are you from there? :-P |
| 01:19.55 | citywok | do yo uhave the newest j2ee sdk 1.6 but is newer than 4.5? lol |
| 01:20.05 | citywok | all i use is qualify myself |
| 01:20.06 | dlynes | Sargun_Screen: No...I'm just from the same country :) |
| 01:20.18 | citywok | qualify should basically do a nat keep alive by talking back and forth all the time |
| 01:20.20 | Get_The_Fish | I know the definition, which seems to keep changing, but the actual application of it other than what sales people talk about is something entirely different. |
| 01:20.40 | telnettech | anybody ever use Freeswitch? |
| 01:20.42 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: anyways...you're pretty young for the industry |
| 01:20.55 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: 14 years isn't that long in the industry |
| 01:21.05 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: just means you didn't get fired during the dot com bust |
| 01:21.10 | citywok | too me it's more than half a lifetime! |
| 01:21.15 | citywok | to* |
| 01:21.27 | dlynes | telnettech: #freeswitch |
| 01:21.27 | Nugget | telnet is eeeeeeevil! |
| 01:21.27 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, but you would think that after that long I would be able to figure out a concept that everyone throws around so much... |
| 01:21.32 | nny | yeah it's odd. I didn't use it till today, and it was to resolve an issue where sending http://pastebin.com/m456ab317 to a phone would break it |
| 01:21.37 | vk2dgy | 14 years is only how long I've been running an ISP.... You get less for murder! |
| 01:21.44 | Get_The_Fish | lol |
| 01:21.45 | Get_The_Fish | lol |
| 01:21.50 | dlynes | vk2dgy: running an ISP is murder |
| 01:21.50 | citywok | lol |
| 01:21.56 | vk2dgy | true. |
| 01:21.58 | telnettech | i know but i was looking for anyone that could help tell me the difference between asterisk and freeswitch |
| 01:22.12 | citywok | i hate devices that ignore answer-after 0 |
| 01:22.15 | telnettech | i dont need help with the software or anything like that |
| 01:22.25 | dlynes | telnettech: not really a lot different between the two nowadays, I would imagine now that freeswitch has a pbx module |
| 01:22.34 | nny | citywok even worse, after sending that, the device would become unresponsive without keep alive on |
| 01:22.39 | nny | had to reboot it |
| 01:22.41 | dlynes | telnettech: but at the same time, freeswitch's focus is still on being a softswitch |
| 01:22.41 | Get_The_Fish | easy answer: freeswitch geared more as a phone switching system, where Asterisk is geared more as a pbx... |
| 01:22.49 | dlynes | telnettech: asterisk's focus is on being a pbx |
| 01:22.59 | nny | i'll just make the two mutually exclusive :D |
| 01:23.01 | Get_The_Fish | note the use of the word geared... it's a gray fuzzy line |
| 01:23.04 | nny | page? only on LAN |
| 01:23.07 | telnettech | dlynes: thanks |
| 01:23.19 | nny | besides, how creepy would it be to be able to page into a remote phone in someone's house |
| 01:23.23 | dlynes | telnettech: if you're wanting to stuff like blf or shared line appearances |
| 01:23.39 | dlynes | telnettech: you're probably better off pulling gray hairs and stumbling through it on asterisk |
| 01:23.51 | dlynes | telnettech: at least with asterisk you have a chance of making it work...with freeswitch, probably not |
| 01:23.59 | citywok | nny, yea... gotta be careful with how you use auto-answer |
| 01:24.10 | citywok | i'm a call cneter though, so agents click dial and the phone needs to dial, not make them answer the call. |
| 01:24.28 | telnettech | dlynes: I know asterisk but i have been taksed by the boss to find out what the differences are.....all i could really say is that freeswitch is useable on Windows OS |
| 01:24.30 | Get_The_Fish | we are a call center too, and autoanswer is good when used properly |
| 01:24.48 | Get_The_Fish | uh, no it's not... it's on Windows, therefore it's not usable |
| 01:25.03 | citywok | Get_The_Fish: who do you use for sip termination? |
| 01:25.15 | Get_The_Fish | a company call Nobel |
| 01:25.27 | Get_The_Fish | sip termination with DID's, TFN's etc etc... |
| 01:26.21 | Get_The_Fish | and a really really cool thing called Local Touch.... I outpulse a pre-set, specific ANI, they translate the ANI that I outpulse into one that is local to the area code that I am calling... |
| 01:26.52 | Get_The_Fish | so, I send 201XXXXXXX to a 212 area code, it shows up on the called party's phone as 212XXXXXXX |
| 01:27.08 | citywok | do you have to manage a phone number in each prefix for that? |
| 01:27.15 | Get_The_Fish | I use the same 201XXXXXXX to call 949, 213, etc.... |
| 01:27.25 | Get_The_Fish | nope, they do it all... I have to manage one number. |
| 01:27.53 | Get_The_Fish | If the called party calls the number that showed up on their caller ID, it routes into me as the 201XXXXXXX that I outpulsed. |
| 01:28.00 | Get_The_Fish | so we always look local. |
| 01:28.02 | citywok | thats pretty cool |
| 01:28.08 | vk2dgy | handy. While we're on callerIDs... can anyone suggest how I handle this? |
| 01:28.13 | Get_The_Fish | hell yeah it is, I love it |
| 01:28.19 | citywok | i wonder what magic they use for that to work. they must give you a number in each area code basically |
| 01:28.20 | vk2dgy | using call files, I present something like this: |
| 01:28.23 | vk2dgy | Channel: SIP/210 |
| 01:28.23 | vk2dgy | Callerid: "RossW Office" <203> |
| 01:28.23 | vk2dgy | MaxRetries: 1 |
| 01:28.28 | vk2dgy | RetryTime: 90 |
| 01:28.28 | vk2dgy | WaitTime: 30 |
| 01:28.28 | vk2dgy | Context: freecalls |
| 01:28.28 | vk2dgy | Extension: 203 |
| 01:28.33 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, they do- you get a "bucket"... |
| 01:28.38 | citywok | otherwise, calling back to it wont necessarily be the same if you call their main line and they call back from a different number |
| 01:28.47 | vk2dgy | the phone on ext 210 seesthe callerID 203 and name "Ross Office" |
| 01:28.58 | citywok | vk2dgy: dont do that, pastebin |
| 01:29.17 | vk2dgy | which is right... but then when they answer and * connects the call to 203, it ALSO shows the same extension and caller (ie, themselves) |
| 01:29.41 | vk2dgy | pastebin seemed overkill for half a dozen lines, sorry. |
| 01:30.23 | citywok | anybody know how to set the callerid name on the CALLING device? |
| 01:30.37 | citywok | i dial 1593 on my phone, i want it to say 1593, citywoks_friend |
| 01:30.43 | citywok | so i know i'm calling citywoks_friend |
| 01:31.11 | vk2dgy | wouldn't that be the "CALLED" device? |
| 01:31.12 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, vk2dgy, use a specific context for those, and translate the caller ID... meaning use "extension" as the start of dialplan code that takes 2 arguments, use arg1 to set the caller ID of the outbound leg and arg2 to set the number of the party that you would like to receive the call |
| 01:31.17 | Get_The_Fish | does that make sense? |
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| 01:31.36 | vk2dgy | I'm trying to follow that. |
| 01:32.24 | vk2dgy | ok, no. I get bits of it, but I'm a relative n00b to asterisk. |
| 01:32.45 | Get_The_Fish | ok, so you have two devices, which I will call the inside and outside leg, for lack of a better term... the inside leg is the first call that was made, the one that is "making" the call... the outside leg is the one that is the ultimate receiver of the call... does that make sense? |
| 01:32.54 | Get_The_Fish | (have to get that part straight first) |
| 01:33.04 | vk2dgy | yup, follow that |
| 01:33.29 | Get_The_Fish | ok, so make the caller ID that of the outside leg, however the channel that of the inside leg... |
| 01:34.37 | Get_The_Fish | use "extension" and context... so you have a context specifically for doing call files....such as context=originate |
| 01:35.03 | vk2dgy | sees a little light flicker off in the distance. |
| 01:35.29 | vk2dgy | all the extensions are currently in one contxt - can the new ("originate") context still access the extensions defined in other contexts? |
| 01:35.51 | Get_The_Fish | set the extension to 1 (although there are lots of different ways to do this)... put the number that you need dialed to connect to the outside leg in as ARG1...and the caller ID of the inside leg as ARG2... |
| 01:36.07 | Get_The_Fish | then in that context, you can do something like this: |
| 01:38.16 | vk2dgy | waits with baited breath! |
| 01:38.26 | Get_The_Fish | exten => 1,1,Set(CALLERID(number)=${ARG2} |
| 01:38.40 | Get_The_Fish | (I THINK that syntax is right) |
| 01:39.12 | vk2dgy | appreciate the pointer, I'll go play with it and see if I can coax it into doing what I want! |
| 01:40.12 | Get_The_Fish | exten =>1,n,Dial(${tech}/${ARG1},etc, etc) |
| 01:40.18 | Get_The_Fish | that is one way of doing it |
| 01:40.26 | Get_The_Fish | there are lots of ways to skin that cat. |
| 01:40.43 | vk2dgy | yes, quite. Thankyou, I'll go play. |
| 01:40.49 | Get_The_Fish | this should also help: http://www.asterisk.org/docs/asterisk/trunk/applications/originate?type=applications&value=Originate |
| 01:41.11 | Get_The_Fish | that page is the best thing since sliced bread for looking up applications and functions |
| 01:41.25 | vk2dgy | bookmarks |
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| 01:49.59 | citywok | is there any way to set the calling phone's callerid? |
| 01:50.08 | citywok | so i know who i am calling after i type in their extnesion number? |
| 01:50.25 | citywok | i'm trying to set DIALEDPEERNAME and the phone doesnt follow it |
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| 01:51.27 | ChannelZ | that might depend on your phone - I want to say mine automatically do it but to be honest I never pay that close attention |
| 01:51.50 | joobie | hey guys.. im using VoiceMailMain() to let users check their voicemail.. currently it runs 'vm-password' which just says "Password" .. is there a clean way to update this so i can make it say something like "Please enter your password", without overwriting the vm-password file? |
| 01:52.06 | citywok | ChannelZ: are you doing it so that you know who you called? |
| 01:52.28 | ChannelZ | no, I know who I called or I wouldn't have called them |
| 01:52.31 | citywok | thats what i'm trying to do, emulating the way our old pbx does |
| 01:52.43 | citywok | yea, but frequently i dial 1529 thinking i'm calling paco |
| 01:52.47 | citywok | but paco is 1592 and i'm dyslexic |
| 01:52.56 | citywok | (okay, kidding, but thats the idea) |
| 01:53.01 | citywok | that way you go oh shit, thats not who i watned. lol |
| 01:53.11 | ChannelZ | I'd have to look when I get to work tomorrow |
| 01:54.03 | ChannelZ | joobie: easiest to just write over it |
| 01:54.26 | citywok | just make sure if you upgrade you remember, because it will overwrite it back |
| 01:54.39 | voipmonk | you can pay allison smith or you can construct your own from what allison has said in other messages |
| 01:54.46 | voipmonk | joobie: :) |
| 01:54.55 | citywok | voipmonk: ? |
| 01:55.04 | Get_The_Fish | uh citywok, I thought it did that already- are you looking for the name of the person that you are calling? |
| 01:55.12 | citywok | yes |
| 01:55.27 | citywok | i can pull it from LDAP/SQL to get the name otherwise, but need to be able to have the phone display it |
| 01:55.50 | voipmonk | citywok: ? |
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| 01:59.27 | citywok | ah, if i use the phone's directory i can set the names that way |
| 02:00.01 | shamelessn00b | hi guys, can anyone give me a step-by-step walkthrough of how I can playback a ogg stream coming from an icecast server inside asterisk |
| 02:00.38 | Get_The_Fish | you could use some dialplan magic... make your internal context look it up first, instead of just a straight up dial based on the ${exten} |
| 02:01.12 | citywok | Get_The_Fish: thats what i was trying to figure out, but dialedpeername doesnt work and i dont see anything else that looks promising |
| 02:01.18 | Get_The_Fish | and use the SIPPEER function... |
| 02:01.49 | Get_The_Fish | actually, no that wouldnt work I dont think.... |
| 02:02.00 | citywok | that would get the callerid name of the devicei 'm calling |
| 02:02.04 | citywok | but still need a way to set it on the calling device |
| 02:02.24 | Get_The_Fish | perhaps use the sendtext application |
| 02:02.35 | Get_The_Fish | http://www.asterisk.org/docs/asterisk/trunk/applications/sendtext?type=applications&value=SendText |
| 02:03.07 | joobie | ChannelZ, it seems to be used in other areas tho.. just want it for the voicemailmain function |
| 02:03.13 | joobie | trying to avoid editing the src.... |
| 02:03.55 | citywok | Get_The_Fish: sendtext doesnt appear to do anything on the aastra phoens i have |
| 02:03.56 | Get_The_Fish | shameless http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Ices |
| 02:04.01 | Get_The_Fish | hmmm' |
| 02:04.12 | dlynes | citywok: what are you wanting to do? |
| 02:04.16 | Get_The_Fish | the perhaps the phone directory is your only option |
| 02:04.26 | citywok | dlynes: when i calling a number, i want my phone to tell me that numbers name |
| 02:04.27 | dlynes | citywok: with the aastra phones, that is? |
| 02:04.38 | dlynes | citywok: you mean the caller id name? |
| 02:04.44 | citywok | yea |
| 02:04.45 | dlynes | citywok: oh...nvm |
| 02:04.50 | jblack | I'm going crazy. I can't find any good, recent printer reviews that seriously consider cost per page. |
| 02:04.54 | dlynes | citywok: you want outbound caller id name |
| 02:05.09 | citywok | dlynes: i can do it using the phones internal directory, but thats limited to 200#'s |
| 02:05.12 | Get_The_Fish | jblack, been there.... it sucks |
| 02:05.33 | jblack | it's as if everyone just gave up even trying in that area. |
| 02:05.38 | dlynes | citywok: you can do it using the xml capabilities of the phone, too |
| 02:05.58 | citywok | hmm. really? how so? |
| 02:06.20 | dlynes | citywok: you're using an aastra sip phone, not an aastra analog adsi phone, right? |
| 02:06.27 | citywok | correct |
| 02:06.29 | citywok | 6757i's |
| 02:06.56 | Get_The_Fish | jblack, if you go with insight.com or CDW, someone that is like a 3rd party sales firm, they can get that info for you... I gave up on going direct, and insight actually has gotten me better pricing... just a thought |
| 02:07.01 | jblack | I want to partially modernize a charity that i donate a lot of time to, but I can't get them out of photocopies if I can't get them into cheap printout. :| |
| 02:07.52 | jblack | I don't thik places like CDW would spend time talking to a charity for a single printer. |
| 02:08.19 | Get_The_Fish | I have been rather happy with my Samsungs all in ones, but you can get super super cheap hp's, like 4000N's and 4250's used and buy reburbished ink cartriges.... |
| 02:08.35 | jblack | price per page really, really matters |
| 02:08.36 | Get_The_Fish | and you would be surprised, I dont do a lot with insight and they still do well by me |
| 02:09.01 | jblack | every penny per page is literally a penny's worth of food taken out of someone's mouth |
| 02:09.18 | Get_The_Fish | you might look into going the used/refurb route with remanufactured ink cartriges |
| 02:09.33 | Get_The_Fish | but yeah, finding accurate price per page is tough |
| 02:09.43 | jblack | oh, I already know laser is far cheaper than ink |
| 02:10.14 | Get_The_Fish | I should saw remanufactured toner instead of ink, but you get the point :) |
| 02:10.40 | Get_The_Fish | we have a guy here that makes his living on refurb/remanufactured stuff that has saved us thousands |
| 02:10.47 | Get_The_Fish | and he delivers :) |
| 02:10.54 | shamelessn00b | ChannelZ I tried using wget didnt work |
| 02:10.55 | shamelessn00b | :( |
| 02:10.56 | jblack | You have anything more than broad generalities? |
| 02:11.07 | Get_The_Fish | nope, sure dont, sorry man |
| 02:11.19 | jblack | Nah, don't be sorry. You're trying to help. ;) |
| 02:11.28 | Get_The_Fish | I dont have any of that data on hand |
| 02:11.55 | jblack | Sure, it's not anything that's not common knowledge, but you're trying. Be happy for that. :=) |
| 02:13.36 | Get_The_Fish | see, now you have me curious |
| 02:13.46 | snadge | where would be a good place to chat about adsl? |
| 02:13.48 | dlynes | citywok: so xml is not the reason you bought the phones, i'm guessing? |
| 02:13.54 | snadge | and i've already tried #adsl ;) |
| 02:14.03 | citywok | dlynes: i love the xml features of them actually. have no idea how to set the CALLERID value though, lol |
| 02:14.09 | dlynes | snadge: www.broadbandreports.com |
| 02:14.16 | shamelessn00b | Get_The_Fish I have this stream coming from a local ip(i set up an icecast server, gave it a mono 8K ogg stream) |
| 02:14.26 | citywok | custom directory, visual voicemail (tho have some issues with this if you are experienced in aastra XML) |
| 02:14.37 | shamelessn00b | http://192.168.x.x:8000/test.m3u |
| 02:14.38 | snadge | dlynes: cool.. we have a similar site in australia called "whirlpool" which is actually really good. but i dont think it has the information im looking for.. |
| 02:14.54 | shamelessn00b | how can I use that stream inside asterisk |
| 02:15.02 | shamelessn00b | say, in musiconhold |
| 02:15.07 | shamelessn00b | or whatever |
| 02:15.16 | dlynes | citywok: i was thinking more along the lines of just displaying the name of the person you're calling, period...be it in the caller id name field, or somewhere else on the screen |
| 02:15.19 | Get_The_Fish | citywok, you use Aastra in a call center? How have those held up? Do you use them for your agents too? |
| 02:15.47 | citywok | Get_The_Fish: no, zoiper web for our agents. 50 staff phones |
| 02:16.06 | citywok | hmm. just do a TEXT display box. let me try that out using the OUTGOING action |
| 02:16.22 | dlynes | citywok: also, you do realize the former sayson technologies will get you on their developer program, if you have a certain minimum annual commit, right? |
| 02:17.17 | dlynes | citywok: that will give you access to aastra features that the average user/itsp does not have access to |
| 02:17.17 | Get_The_Fish | citywok: do you use asterisk as a dialer as well, or are you inbound? |
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| 02:17.17 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: he's obviously outbound |
| 02:17.18 | citywok | dlynes: who is sayson tech? |
| 02:17.18 | citywok | Get_The_Fish: yes. 90% outbound |
| 02:17.24 | dlynes | citywok: David Sayson and Barry Jung |
| 02:17.38 | dlynes | citywok: they got swallowed up by Aastra a few years ago |
| 02:17.45 | Get_The_Fish | dlynes, didnt realize that... |
| 02:18.01 | dlynes | citywok: however, they're still in charge of software development and vendor programs for aastra |
| 02:18.08 | Get_The_Fish | so, are you using a customized solution for asterisk as your dialer, or a commercial package? |
| 02:18.20 | citywok | ah, i was workign with Aastra on another bug i was running in to, and they said we dont know the XML stuff at all here. lol |
| 02:18.29 | citywok | Get_The_Fish: purely custom solution. |
| 02:18.32 | dlynes | wtf? |
| 02:18.42 | dlynes | those guys at aastra are useless |
| 02:18.50 | citywok | our agent interfaces run out of BMC Remedy, which executes a perl script, which tells Asterisk to make the phone call |
| 02:18.58 | dlynes | half the time they try to tell you that it's a problem only you're experiencing |
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| 02:19.18 | citywok | yes, my phones were crashing rebooting on some random shit LLDP 80% |
| 02:19.21 | dlynes | damned idiots down in some texas call center |
| 02:19.24 | citywok | their solution was disable LLDP since i dont use it |
| 02:19.25 | dlynes | citywok: 9133's? |
| 02:19.30 | citywok | 6757 |
| 02:19.35 | dlynes | lldp? |
| 02:19.38 | citywok | gorgeous phones i want a 6739 myself |
| 02:19.53 | citywok | 6.5" vga color |
| 02:19.59 | dlynes | citywok: yeah..i know what you mean...i've used the 57i's, before they became the 6757's |
| 02:20.03 | citywok | i think it's an old cisco discovery protocol |
| 02:20.10 | citywok | yea their naming pisses me off |
| 02:20.18 | citywok | wtf is the diff between a 57i and a 6757i |
| 02:20.21 | citywok | and i have a few 480i CT's |
| 02:20.21 | dlynes | they're great looking phones |
| 02:20.26 | dlynes | no difference |
| 02:20.26 | citywok | but thats not the same as a 9480i CT |
| 02:20.29 | citywok | wtf? |
| 02:20.37 | dlynes | they changed the naming, so that everything was consistent |
| 02:20.39 | citywok | i was told the hardware is different and i cant just load the 9480i firmware |
| 02:20.43 | dlynes | no |
| 02:20.51 | dlynes | the 9480i and the 480i are completely different |
| 02:20.52 | citywok | seriously? |
| 02:20.59 | citywok | oh, okay good. thats what they told me. |
| 02:21.07 | citywok | they look IDENTICAL, but are different. lol |
| 02:21.09 | dlynes | the 9480i is the 480i with the memory and cpu from the 57i |
| 02:21.33 | dlynes | so a 480i will not take the newer 9480i firmware |
| 02:21.48 | dlynes | because the 480i doesn't have the cpu power or the memory to handle it |
| 02:22.05 | dlynes | the 9480i does g.722 wideband codec..the 480i didn't have the horsepower to do it |
| 02:22.13 | citywok | ahh, okay |
| 02:22.18 | nny | anyone have a nice simple sendmail thingy they use ? |
| 02:22.20 | dlynes | the 9480i can also handle a larger firmware image due to the increased memory |
| 02:22.28 | citywok | i just use GSM for the most part |
| 02:22.30 | nny | for vm stuff with asterisk that is |
| 02:22.43 | dlynes | I've been using aastras for the last 4 or 5 years now, in case you were wondering |
| 02:22.44 | citywok | though, bandwidth only takes g711 or g729 so i could turn on g729 for the aastra's |
| 02:22.51 | citywok | do you use a visual voicemail app? |
| 02:23.00 | dlynes | citywok: asterisk comes with one |
| 02:23.12 | citywok | yea, i took the trixbox one |
| 02:23.19 | dlynes | citywok: no...asterisk comes with one |
| 02:23.22 | Get_The_Fish | dlynes... er? Are you talking about ARI? |
| 02:23.25 | dlynes | citywok: no need for trixbox |
| 02:23.30 | citywok | wait, seriously? |
| 02:23.32 | citywok | how didi miss this? |
| 02:23.34 | nny | anyone played with the iphone visual voicemail app? it's not too bad |
| 02:23.41 | citywok | yea i liked it nny |
| 02:23.47 | citywok | loved my iTouch + GPS & INternet (somtimes) |
| 02:23.56 | Get_The_Fish | dlynes, yeah, I missed that too... please elaborate... |
| 02:23.57 | nny | yeah me too. I just fwd all my own calls to google voice now, but was fun for a bit |
| 02:23.58 | citywok | now i love my droid that doesnt drop calls like a bag phone |
| 02:24.10 | citywok | an 80's bag phone that is |
| 02:25.02 | dlynes | citywok: , Get_The_Fish in your asterisk source distribution: ./contrib/scripts/vmail.cgi |
| 02:25.12 | nny | oh yeah |
| 02:25.19 | nny | or just make webmail |
| 02:25.21 | nny | when compiling |
| 02:25.33 | citywok | and it works XML style on the phone? |
| 02:25.33 | nny | puts the cgi in /var/www/cgi-bin i think and that's about it |
| 02:25.33 | dlynes | for some reason everybody's just oblivious to the fact that the contrib directory is there |
| 02:25.39 | dlynes | citywok: no |
| 02:25.46 | dlynes | citywok: that's a web page |
| 02:25.48 | Get_The_Fish | really... will that work for realtime voicemail? |
| 02:25.58 | citywok | ohh, i built an app for the phone itself in XML |
| 02:26.04 | citywok | well, hacked up the trixbox one |
| 02:26.05 | dlynes | citywok: you asked about a visual voicemail app |
| 02:26.08 | Get_The_Fish | as in odbc storage of voicemessages? |
| 02:26.12 | dlynes | citywok: you didn't say what you meant by 'visual' |
| 02:26.13 | citywok | visual voicemail... on the phone :P |
| 02:26.24 | nny | is sSMTP ok for just sending voicemail stuff? |
| 02:26.28 | citywok | ya, i email voicemails to everybody so they can just use outlook |
| 02:27.28 | nny | yeah although iphone barfs on wav49 |
| 02:27.29 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: it appears to work with sql based voicemail, yes |
| 02:27.37 | Get_The_Fish | huh |
| 02:27.45 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: sql == realtime |
| 02:27.56 | Get_The_Fish | nny, "make webmail" didnt work for me, am I missing something? |
| 02:28.12 | nny | er |
| 02:28.20 | Get_The_Fish | yeah, I am just looking at it now for the first time |
| 02:28.21 | dlynes | Get_The_Fish: he doesn't know what he's talking about...just drop the vmail.cgi file into your cgi-bin directory on your webserver |
| 02:28.32 | Get_The_Fish | ok, will try that |
| 02:28.37 | nny | make webvmail |
| 02:28.40 | nny | sorry forgot the v |
| 02:28.51 | nny | try it, since it's obviously something i made up ;) |
| 02:29.02 | dlynes | ok....webvmail is a valid target :) |
| 02:29.19 | nny | but aye, it's the same thing |
| 02:29.45 | dlynes | but anyways |
| 02:29.47 | citywok | dlynes: okay that does work, the sad part is it hides the XFER buttons, etc. |
| 02:29.54 | citywok | (using the action URI's) |
| 02:29.56 | dlynes | it's probably easier to just drop it into the cgi-bin directory yourself |
| 02:30.01 | citywok | i just threw up a textscreen |
| 02:30.11 | dlynes | citywok: nice |
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| 02:30.27 | citywok | i need to find a way to just put text in the screen, not overwrite the entire display |
| 02:30.37 | Get_The_Fish | is there any docs on these scripts anywhere? |
| 02:30.44 | citywok | i use custom buttons i dont want to get lost when dialing |
| 02:30.55 | citywok | a magical "forward this call to my cellphone" button that everybody adores |
| 02:32.15 | dlynes | citywok: there might be a sip header you can send back to the phone to set the name assigned to the outbound number |
| 02:32.34 | dlynes | citywok: but that's something barry jung and david sayson would be able to tell you |
| 02:32.45 | dlynes | citywok: and they won't tell you unless you're on their vendor program |
| 02:33.05 | citywok | ah, yea i am not big enough to pull off something like that |
| 02:33.34 | dlynes | citywok: apparently the aastra phones do support sms, though |
| 02:34.11 | citywok | for now i'm creating the directgory.csv with each phone number |
| 02:34.22 | citywok | ideally i could go over 200 though, because then i could add everybodies cellphones, etc. |
| 02:34.42 | citywok | i dont use the aastra built in directory, i built a directory app that goes in to my companies employee file |
| 02:34.54 | citywok | so i can see all numbers one person has (work, home, cell) |
| 02:35.59 | dlynes | citywok: and how does that work? |
| 02:36.12 | citywok | the directory? |
| 02:36.13 | dlynes | citywok: or you just update the directory.csv file on the phone from tftp? |
| 02:36.28 | citywok | in order to display the 200, i use directory.csv on tftp |
| 02:36.37 | citywok | in order to have the normal searchable cool directory its php + odbc |
| 02:36.54 | dlynes | citywok: yeah...so you're still using the built in directory...you're just not programming it via the phone...you're uploading it via tftp, instead |
| 02:36.55 | citywok | this will display names on the outbound calls at least |
| 02:37.34 | citywok | oh, i dont use the built in directory for the nomral browseable/searchables thats PHP driven. in order to display names i've found using the directory will put the name of the number i called on screen. |
| 02:37.35 | dlynes | citywok: ah...so you're doing outbound calls with the aastra, but then also redirecting the caller to a new page on their browser |
| 02:37.41 | citywok | i dont like that tho because hat limits you to 200 #'s |
| 02:37.44 | citywok | precicesly |
| 02:38.01 | citywok | the aastra directory.csv will put the name of the number you are calling up if it is in the directory |
| 02:38.04 | dlynes | citywok: and that page is part of your dialing campaign application |
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| 02:38.39 | citywok | i think this will work because i can put in my 150 extensions, but i dont get to add peoples cellphones, etc. |
| 02:38.46 | citywok | which realistically isn't the end of the world. |
| 02:39.00 | citywok | if i had a bigger company i'd worry, so maybe at our current growth rate it'll be an issue in a year or two |
| 02:40.29 | citywok | these phones are definitely quite powerful |
| 02:40.30 | dlynes | citywok: another thing you can do too, is dump that outbound caller into a meetme conference, make two more outbound calls...one to a softphone on their screen without a microphone option (set the callerid num and name based on your database), and connect it to the meetme, and then call the number they wanted to call originally, and add that call to the meetme as well |
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| 02:41.11 | dlynes | citywok: make sure you've got that meetme room set for no pin |
| 02:41.48 | dlynes | citywok: that would give you your outbound callee name and number...it's just a bit heavy |
| 02:41.50 | hardwire | anybody know of a good method of routing a call based on it's existance in another context? |
| 02:41.53 | citywok | hmm. why would you do that? |
| 02:42.04 | citywok | oh, okay thats what i was thinking, then you would just ignore the incoming call |
| 02:42.06 | citywok | otherwise you hear yourself, heh |
| 02:42.07 | hardwire | so for my work.. routing a call based on if a sip peer is registered locally or not |
| 02:42.30 | dlynes | citywok: you wouldn't ignore it...your softphone would autoanswer it, with a muted speaker/microphone...it's only there to see the number and name |
| 02:42.42 | citywok | gotcha |
| 02:43.04 | dlynes | citywok: so that softphone would be paired with their aastra phone via astdb or something similar |
| 02:43.19 | citywok | yea |
| 02:43.25 | citywok | what i did was created an extra extension for every phone |
| 02:43.29 | citywok | so 1593, and 15931 |
| 02:43.33 | citywok | then dial(1593&15931) |
| 02:43.45 | citywok | that way you can have a softphone that looks like your normal extension and have it ring in both places |
| 02:43.55 | citywok | and force callerid outbound on that to the normal extension |
| 02:44.07 | dlynes | citywok: or if you're using a web-based dialing campaign software, you could set a flag in the database setting what the outbound name and number was, before calling the number |
| 02:44.08 | citywok | i also have microsoft OCS, so i also dial SIP/OCS_TRUNK/EXTEN |
| 02:44.19 | citywok | dlynes: i do that for the actual agent calls right now |
| 02:44.21 | dlynes | citywok: so that when your web software refreshes, it'll see the number and name you're calling |
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| 02:44.36 | citywok | since i control both legs of the call its easy |
| 02:44.48 | citywok | but making the call from the desk phone manually i cant control both legs |
| 02:45.06 | dlynes | hardwire: CHANUNAVAIL (DIALSTATUS) |
| 02:45.09 | citywok | if i'm calling the other IT guy, i cant set my phone to show me the other IT guy's name |
| 02:45.37 | dlynes | citywok: yes, but you can still set it on your web page, or in a softphone on the desktop |
| 02:45.45 | citywok | yep |
| 02:46.10 | dlynes | citywok: if your web app is a custom web app you've got the code for, i would suggest putting it in there, instead of a softphone |
| 02:46.26 | dlynes | citywok: it's more integrated that way...less kludgy |
| 02:46.35 | citywok | yea i dont like the softphone method |
| 02:46.38 | citywok | it's... dirty lol |
| 02:46.48 | citywok | and people would call me all the damn time WHY DOES IT CALL ME?!??! |
| 02:47.00 | dlynes | dirty like a detroit whore? =) |
| 02:47.06 | citywok | lol |
| 02:47.20 | citywok | also, if you havent played with it Zoiper Web is awesome. $1200 for unlimited use sip softphone |
| 02:47.44 | citywok | it's an activex control that you can embed :P |
| 02:47.48 | dlynes | ewww |
| 02:47.55 | dlynes | that means you need to use internet exploder |
| 02:48.10 | dlynes | spyware, adware, viruses, buggy beta activex controls, ... |
| 02:48.10 | citywok | they have a module that runs in firefox/opera/chrom as well |
| 02:48.16 | citywok | not sure what it is, but it's there |
| 02:48.27 | dlynes | does it work on mac, too? |
| 02:48.34 | citywok | no clue |
| 02:48.37 | dlynes | ah |
| 02:48.39 | dlynes | just asking |
| 02:48.43 | citywok | yea, dont have any macs |
| 02:48.46 | dlynes | marketing guys are usually major mac heads |
| 02:49.05 | citywok | we beat ours with baseball bats |
| 02:49.07 | citywok | :P |
| 02:49.13 | dlynes | your marketing guys? |
| 02:49.19 | citywok | yes |
| 02:49.21 | citywok | no mac for you, WHACK |
| 02:49.23 | dlynes | hehehe |
| 02:49.37 | citywok | "Active-X and NPAPI plugins in order to seamlessly run on the most popular browsers" |
| 02:49.44 | citywok | does npapi work in mac? lol |
| 02:49.48 | dlynes | i'd rather use a mac any day than a windoze machine |
| 02:50.08 | dlynes | but i suppose you hate mac |
| 02:50.14 | dlynes | because you get less support calls then |
| 02:50.19 | dlynes | it'd be like your users running linux |
| 02:50.23 | dlynes | you'd be out of work |
| 02:50.31 | citywok | lol, i hate support calls |
| 02:50.34 | citywok | i make other people deal with those |
| 02:50.57 | citywok | i'm the whiz kid that replaced the 1 million dollar phone system in 6 months, with something better and free (except the 50 $200 phones) |
| 02:51.09 | citywok | they like me heh |
| 02:51.29 | citywok | okay, its 1 million if you buy it from inter-tel. stree value is probably closer to 10 grand lol |
| 02:52.09 | citywok | "It is fully-compliant with Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Google Chrome on Windows." |
| 02:53.36 | citywok | hmmmmmmm. i wonder if i can use the incoming call action URI to get my visual voicemail to work |
| 02:53.48 | citywok | send the phone to the voicemail app and have it display the voicemail app if thats what i need, otherwise just exit. |
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| 02:54.17 | citywok | otherwise when you hit play, it exits out of the XML browser on the phone, so i need a way to force it back in to it. and i cnat use PUSH (cant assume i can directly access the phone) |
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| 03:13.24 | shamelessn00b | can has help |
| 03:13.24 | shamelessn00b | ? |
| 03:14.17 | ChannelZ | oh hai, you has cheezburger? |
| 03:14.25 | voipmonk | perks up |
| 03:15.02 | shamelessn00b | well, ChannelZ, I tried using wget |
| 03:15.06 | shamelessn00b | but didnt work |
| 03:15.24 | shamelessn00b | then I tried using mpg123 |
| 03:15.28 | shamelessn00b | that didnt work either |
| 03:15.43 | shamelessn00b | all the guides I found are for playuing back mp3 streams |
| 03:16.29 | shamelessn00b | in asterisk |
| 03:18.02 | voipmonk | nice name |
| 03:18.38 | shamelessn00b | lol |
| 03:18.44 | shamelessn00b | thats my in-game nick |
| 03:18.45 | ChannelZ | well I've not dealt with icecast so I have no idea what CLI tool you can use that would take the stream and just spit out the raw ogg stream |
| 03:19.27 | shamelessn00b | can vlc do it |
| 03:19.36 | shamelessn00b | vlc can playback he stream |
| 03:19.40 | shamelessn00b | inside a player |
| 03:19.56 | ChannelZ | As I just said (and did last night) I have no idea |
| 03:20.06 | shamelessn00b | ok |
| 03:20.13 | shamelessn00b | so lets say |
| 03:20.14 | ChannelZ | VLC is mostly a GUI-based tool for playing back media |
| 03:20.17 | shamelessn00b | theres this program xyz |
| 03:20.23 | shamelessn00b | that spits out the raw stream |
| 03:20.30 | shamelessn00b | for asterisk to play back |
| 03:20.32 | shamelessn00b | what can I do |
| 03:20.39 | shamelessn00b | to use it in MOH |
| 03:20.46 | ChannelZ | Might I ask why you want to run a streaming server for shitty 8khz music files rather than just let Asterisk play the files it's self? |
| 03:21.08 | shamelessn00b | cuz I wanna let every person hear the same thing |
| 03:21.23 | shamelessn00b | everyone who dials |
| 03:21.26 | shamelessn00b | should be in sync |
| 03:21.32 | shamelessn00b | like you tune in to radio |
| 03:23.50 | ChannelZ | ok.. well in any event if you find the holy grail tool, it's no different than the mpg123 samples and such in the musiconhold config; You set the mode to custom, specify the application and it's arguments, and set the format to ogg in your case |
| 03:24.29 | shamelessn00b | and then in the dialplan |
| 03:24.32 | shamelessn00b | what do I do |
| 03:24.50 | shamelessn00b | exten => 1234,1,answer() |
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| 03:25.01 | ChannelZ | well you put someone on hold |
| 03:25.04 | ModernGeek | Good evening all |
| 03:25.12 | shamelessn00b | how |
| 03:25.14 | ChannelZ | unless you want people to just dial in and hear music period? |
| 03:25.15 | shamelessn00b | do I do it |
| 03:25.22 | shamelessn00b | yes |
| 03:25.25 | JAMMAN2110 | RTFM |
| 03:25.29 | shamelessn00b | I just want then to dial in |
| 03:25.32 | shamelessn00b | and hear music |
| 03:25.36 | ChannelZ | then just call MusicOnHold |
| 03:26.01 | shamelessn00b | without answering? |
| 03:26.19 | ChannelZ | it might answer for you, dunno.. doesn't hurt to answer first |
| 03:26.45 | shamelessn00b | ok so exten => 1234,1,answer() |
| 03:27.05 | shamelessn00b | exten => 1234,n, MusicOnHold(contextname) |
| 03:27.07 | shamelessn00b | right?? |
| 03:27.15 | ModernGeek | Looks right to me. |
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| 03:27.21 | shamelessn00b | context name being inside the musiconhold.conf |
| 03:27.21 | ChannelZ | sure assuming extension 1234 does something interesting in your setup |
| 03:27.46 | shamelessn00b | ok, will you be around for the next 2-3 hours |
| 03:27.50 | shamelessn00b | im at home right now |
| 03:27.57 | shamelessn00b | cant test untill I get to the office |
| 03:28.06 | ChannelZ | maybe maybe not, I have beef jerky to make |
| 03:28.21 | shamelessn00b | ok, thanks anyways |
| 03:28.22 | shamelessn00b | :) |
| 03:28.37 | voipmonk | lol |
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| 03:29.03 | shamelessn00b | tc, see ya in a bit |
| 03:29.16 | ModernGeek | Anyone here have any experience with CallWithUs? |
| 03:29.49 | ModernGeek | I need to make about 30 outbound calls at once on one sip line. |
| 03:29.51 | ModernGeek | possible? |
| 03:31.26 | ModernGeek | *looks around* |
| 03:31.45 | ModernGeek | voipmonk? Your name makes you sound all knowing :) |
| 03:31.59 | voipmonk | not quite |
| 03:32.02 | voipmonk | Im still in training |
| 03:32.08 | ModernGeek | Ahh |
| 03:32.26 | voipmonk | but I do have 7 yrs of real world experience jumbled up in my noodle |
| 03:32.54 | ModernGeek | Nice. |
| 03:33.05 | ModernGeek | Any idea about multiple outbound sip calls on one line with asterisk? :P |
| 03:33.17 | ChannelZ | If your question 'is it possible to make 30 calls at once' the answer is mostly yes |
| 03:33.48 | ChannelZ | Is it possible with CallWithUs, I suppose that depends on their service and how many simultaneous channels they allow you to have, probably based on what you pay |
| 03:33.50 | ModernGeek | How would one aleviate congestion messages? |
| 03:33.58 | ChannelZ | but I don't know anything about CallWithUs |
| 03:34.16 | ModernGeek | They are by the minute, so they don't care about how many outbound calls you make. |
| 03:34.32 | ModernGeek | I'm wondering if asterisk has a preset limit somewhere on outbound calls on one channel. |
| 03:34.34 | ModernGeek | and if so, how to up it. |
| 03:34.51 | ChannelZ | well they might care how many *simultaneous* calls you make which would explain why you'd get congestion back from them |
| 03:35.07 | voipmonk | call the channel a trunk |
| 03:35.57 | voipmonk | and the outbound calls per trunk is limited by your carrier. Unless you are looking for how many calls per second your carrier can handle. You are also limited to your processor and os limitations |
| 03:36.08 | Katty | peeks in |
| 03:36.19 | ModernGeek | So by default, asterisk doesn't have a cap on it. |
| 03:36.23 | voipmonk | nand bandwidth |
| 03:36.31 | voipmonk | no |
| 03:38.52 | kazaa_lite | Corydon76-dig: there? Have you worked with switchvox? |
| 03:39.22 | Katty | HELLO THAR |
| 03:39.39 | kazaa_lite | i was reading at: http://www.digium.com/en/products/switchvox/free-trial.php what does question 10 mean? cannot we even log into the linux machine? |
| 03:40.27 | kazaa_lite | its only and only web interface and thats it? |
| 03:43.35 | kazaa_lite | has anyone played with switchvox? |
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| 03:47.32 | jasonwert | You don't get root access |
| 03:48.02 | darkdrgn2k3 | hey, any one know if there is a blue tooth capable trunk? |
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| 03:53.58 | darkdrgn2k3 | can some one point me to the ASTERISK book PDF |
| 03:55.52 | [TK]D-Fender | ~book |
| 03:55.53 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 03:56.47 | darkdrgn2k3 | thank you |
| 03:59.32 | voipmonk | ok bedtime |
| 04:06.26 | kazaa_lite | jasonwert: what if there is something wrong with file system and i want to modify things? |
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| 04:07.40 | jasonwert | I think your pretty much stuck. |
| 04:08.19 | FarrisG | Here's a screwy one: Large office with an asterisk box, working fine with SIP phones, and a legacy Lucent system. Want to swing the PRI over to the asterisk box, which has a TE210P, and connect the second T1 interface to the legacy Lucent system to use as a channel bank for analog lines (faxes, postage meters, etc.) |
| 04:08.49 | FarrisG | I haven't run into anybody doing this, any idea where to start so I don't go cross-eyed? |
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| 04:11.04 | kazaa_lite | umm..... |
| 04:11.09 | kazaa_lite | but thanks anyways |
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| 05:38.05 | xpot-mobile | Question: can I install third-party apps on an Asterisk-NOW box? or is the kernel hardened(locked)? |
| 05:38.30 | Kobaz | xpot-mobile: what the heck kind of question is that? |
| 05:38.39 | Kobaz | it runs on LINUX |
| 05:38.47 | manxpower | it's a question for 3asterisknow |
| 05:39.41 | Kobaz | asterisk now is nothing more than a pretty^H^H^H^H gui that generates dialplan |
| 05:40.04 | webman | is it possible to generate a call, and basically watch what is happening on the pri (ie, detect the progression from dialling, to ringing (or busy/congestion/etc) and then hangup the call all within 1sec? Can that be done from AMI or AGI or do I need to do it from outside asterisk and talk direct to dahdi? |
| 05:40.39 | Kobaz | webman: what are you trying to do |
| 05:41.21 | webman | kuba: call a number, if I am told the destination is busy/ringing (or anything other than "not in service" I want to cancel the call before the destination has any chance to answer |
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| 05:41.52 | manxpower | webman: you can only dial for 1 second and check the hangupcause |
| 05:41.58 | webman | ie, I don't want the destination to know that I attempted to call... |
| 05:42.06 | xpot-mobile | Kobaz: I have seen alot of hardened(locked) modified kernels (Sonicwall uses one for their email filters, Google has one, etc) I just wanted to know if it was locked to perform the function as just a PBX or if it was just a well packaged iso... if the latter what flavor does it use? CentOS? Is there a link somewhere with this info? |
| 05:42.19 | manxpower | webman: i doubt that is possible. |
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| 05:42.43 | Kobaz | you would have to use dahdi directly, or hack up the asterisk source |
| 05:42.47 | webman | manxpower: but in one second, the recipient would probably get at least a portion of a call... |
| 05:42.57 | Kobaz | the problem is, you have no control over what happens after you send your dial request |
| 05:43.03 | webman | kobaz: ok, that is what I was thinking.... |
| 05:43.39 | Kobaz | xpot-mobile: it's really not much to do with the kernel |
| 05:44.06 | Kobaz | xpot-mobile: like tivo uses a modified linux kernel to run on their hardware, but it's not 'locked', neither is sonicwall |
| 05:44.30 | Kobaz | and by licensing requirements, custom linux kernel modifications that are redistributed, must be gpl |
| 05:44.57 | xpot-mobile | Kobas: I see, I guess my question would be... what flavor does it use? |
| 05:45.30 | Kobaz | you can view it as 'locked' from an end-user standpoint, because it appears you can only do a limited set of operations... but some quick tinkering will get you a root prompt |
| 05:45.34 | manxpower | Related channels: #asterisknow |
| 05:45.42 | Kobaz | that too |
| 05:46.18 | xpot-mobile | manxpower: hopefully I can get a straight answer in there ;) |
| 05:46.43 | manxpower | xpot-mobile: virtually nobody on this channel uses asterisknow |
| 05:47.10 | pigpen | agrees with manxpower |
| 05:48.12 | xpot-mobile | I don't use it either, been building everything from scratch, I am looking for something faster (pre-packaged) for non linux users. |
| 05:48.29 | pigpen | Nortel? |
| 05:48.30 | pigpen | :) |
| 05:49.00 | xpot-mobile | pigpen: I failed to mention cheap |
| 05:49.01 | Kobaz | avaya? |
| 05:49.28 | Kobaz | siemens? |
| 05:49.29 | pigpen | I heard something that Nortel was getting bought out by Avaya. |
| 05:49.42 | Kobaz | that would be quite the merge |
| 05:50.08 | pigpen | personally I don't care, but I do some work for a school district, and their new nortel is on hold due to it. |
| 05:50.30 | pigpen | And, no, I don't want to do their phones. |
| 05:50.36 | Kobaz | xpot-mobile: if you're not a linux user, then don't use a linux system |
| 05:50.52 | Kobaz | learning linux to set up a phone system is disaster waiting to happen |
| 05:51.09 | Kobaz | buy a panasonic |
| 05:51.11 | xpot-mobile | Kobaz: haha, thats funny... :| wasn't talking about me |
| 05:51.22 | pigpen | I think he noted that he was looking for a less linux'ish box for customers. |
| 05:51.30 | pigpen | so they have a warm fuzzy "gui" |
| 05:51.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: Panasonic is a disaster that has already happened ;) |
| 05:51.45 | pigpen | .....at least that is what I read into it. |
| 05:51.50 | Kobaz | [TK]D-Fender: that too, but... you know |
| 05:51.50 | xpot-mobile | pigpen: thank you for paying attention ;) |
| 05:52.24 | pigpen | My recommendation is manage it for them. Don't let them touch it. |
| 05:52.37 | pigpen | You get $$, they get a stable system. |
| 05:53.34 | pigpen | Even with a webapp, keep the core dialplan away from the user. Let them only change/add/delete extensions |
| 05:53.45 | pigpen | imho. |
| 05:55.03 | xpot-mobile | pigpen: already doing that, also a computer engineering student and managing 2 other businesses my self... so I either need some team action going on... or a method for users to have some play... been looking at using freePBX with the db user manager... give them some access but without breaking it. (if thats not asking for too many miracles ;) |
| 05:55.14 | Pan3D | heh |
| 05:58.06 | pigpen | xpot-mobile, good luck. As for me, we have a webapp that just does exten/voicemail stuff, with an assembly script behind it. There is much to do with it, but it has worked for 2 years. |
| 05:58.53 | pigpen | But realtime is a key component. Sorry REALTIME. Talk about a learning curve. When I deployed it, there was practically no documentation. |
| 05:59.10 | pigpen | Anyway, good luck...time for bed. |
| 05:59.17 | xpot-mobile | pigpen: interesting... maybe I will build something when I get the time. |
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| 06:30.01 | abalashov | Like a roller coaster, stealing your thunder! |
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| 06:41.11 | ChannelZ | shamelessn00b: use ogg123 |
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| 06:41.43 | shamelessn00b | I'm reading vlc documentation |
| 06:41.45 | ChannelZ | application=/usr/bin/ogg123 -q -d wav -f - http://whatever/whatever.ogg |
| 06:42.01 | ChannelZ | depending on your distro you might have it, or can install a vorbis package like vorbis-tools |
| 06:42.10 | shamelessn00b | its whatever.m3u |
| 06:42.31 | ChannelZ | look in whatever.m3u, it's just another URL |
| 06:42.33 | shamelessn00b | vlc can output to stdout aswell |
| 06:42.46 | shamelessn00b | ok |
| 06:42.50 | shamelessn00b | lemme try that out |
| 06:42.52 | shamelessn00b | gimme 2 mins |
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| 06:52.03 | shamelessn00b | brb restart |
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| 06:55.42 | shamelessn00b | Goto (MUISCONHOLD,s,1) |
| 06:55.44 | shamelessn00b | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.45 | shamelessn00b | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:56.24 | shamelessn00b | ChannelZ: |
| 06:57.08 | ChannelZ | that's a dialplan issue |
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| 06:57.59 | shamelessn00b | Error opening http://192.168.10.27:8000/test.m3u using the oggvorbis module. The file may be corrupted |
| 06:58.07 | shamelessn00b | this is what I get |
| 06:58.27 | shamelessn00b | when I write ogg123 -q -d wav -f - http://192.168.10.27:8000/test.m3u |
| 06:58.30 | shamelessn00b | on my console |
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| 06:59.12 | ChannelZ | it might not know what to do with the m3u |
| 06:59.29 | ChannelZ | give it the direct url |
| 06:59.40 | shamelessn00b | that is the direct url |
| 06:59.42 | shamelessn00b | :/ |
| 06:59.53 | ChannelZ | no that's a playlist |
| 07:00.13 | ChannelZ | if you fetch that url above it results in a file with another url in it |
| 07:00.49 | shamelessn00b | when I point my browser |
| 07:00.55 | shamelessn00b | towards that url |
| 07:00.59 | shamelessn00b | it asks me to download |
| 07:01.02 | shamelessn00b | test.m3u |
| 07:01.11 | shamelessn00b | or open it with some application |
| 07:01.17 | ChannelZ | yeah |
| 07:01.18 | ChannelZ | download it |
| 07:01.21 | ChannelZ | then look at it |
| 07:01.29 | shamelessn00b | ok |
| 07:02.35 | shamelessn00b | http://192.168.10.27:8000/test |
| 07:02.41 | shamelessn00b | thats the file |
| 07:02.49 | shamelessn00b | or link or whatever |
| 07:03.07 | shamelessn00b | ok |
| 07:03.09 | shamelessn00b | working now |
| 07:03.11 | shamelessn00b | :) |
| 07:03.21 | shamelessn00b | lemme try on the asterisk server |
| 07:06.36 | shamelessn00b | exten => 1234,1,Set(__DEST=TEST) |
| 07:06.38 | shamelessn00b | exten => 1234,n,SetCDRUserField(${DEST}) |
| 07:06.40 | shamelessn00b | exten => 1234,n,Goto(MUISCONHOLD,s,1) |
| 07:06.41 | shamelessn00b | [MUISCONHOLD] |
| 07:06.43 | shamelessn00b | exten => s,1,Answer() |
| 07:06.45 | shamelessn00b | exten => MusicOnHold(default) |
| 07:06.52 | shamelessn00b | these are the lines I added inside extensions.conf |
| 07:08.13 | shamelessn00b | Goto (MUISCONHOLD,s,1) |
| 07:08.15 | shamelessn00b | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.17 | shamelessn00b | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:08.18 | shamelessn00b | still getting same error |
| 07:08.55 | ChannelZ | first of all use pastebin.ca |
| 07:09.01 | shamelessn00b | ok |
| 07:09.18 | shamelessn00b | Im pasting my extensions and musiconhold files there |
| 07:09.51 | ChannelZ | second, the second line in your [MUSICONHOLD] context is invalid |
| 07:09.54 | ChannelZ | there is no extension or priority |
| 07:10.24 | ChannelZ | or [MUISCONHOLD] rather, you spelled it wrong (but you did so everywhere so thats not an issue) |
| 07:10.47 | shamelessn00b | so |
| 07:11.14 | shamelessn00b | I should write something like exten => s,n,MusicOnHold(default) right?? |
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| 07:12.43 | ChannelZ | yesh that would be better |
| 07:14.23 | shamelessn00b | http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
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| 07:15.27 | shamelessn00b | HEY THANKs |
| 07:15.36 | shamelessn00b | TYTYTYTYTYYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYTYYTYTYTYTYTYTYTY |
| 07:15.48 | shamelessn00b | its working now |
| 07:15.50 | shamelessn00b | :D |
| 07:15.56 | fenrus | Nice :) |
| 07:15.59 | ChannelZ | ywywyw |
| 07:17.36 | shamelessn00b | awesome |
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| 08:43.00 | lftsy | Hello, I have my Asterisk 1.4.28 that is using 100% CPU and flooding one of my peer and asking many many queries to the MySQL server. What you I do to pinpoint the problem... Thanks |
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| 08:51.36 | ChannelZ | is your SIP open to the world? Someone trying to register under a thousand different usernames? (I assume you are using realtime config if MySQL is involved) |
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| 08:58.18 | fenrus | lftsy, tail the mysql log and see what's happening.. |
| 08:59.00 | lftsy | I had a tcpdump running and I can see what is asked |
| 08:59.45 | lftsy | everything is regarding only one peer. My Asterisk servers are not open to the world, there is an OpenSIPs proxy in fron with flood detection. |
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| 09:00.42 | fenrus | what is asking the questions? |
| 09:00.58 | Dovid | hello ev1 |
| 09:01.01 | fenrus | can you see any source ip that's not the asterisk/mysql server ? |
| 09:01.03 | Dovid | any1 from canada here ? |
| 09:01.18 | ChannelZ | not me, ehhh |
| 09:01.30 | lftsy | I can see that there is only SIP OPTIONS message sent to the proxy each 10^-6s and a simply query to the mysql server SELECT * FROM sip_users WHERE name = '02456XXXX' AND host = 'dynamic' |
| 09:01.56 | lftsy | it is my dev environment, and I'm the only one using it |
| 09:02.51 | ChannelZ | do you have a softphone or something which is making these queries? |
| 09:02.56 | lftsy | I already tried to fix it on https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=16382 but it does not seem to be the same one |
| 09:04.00 | ChannelZ | oh it's your * sending out then |
| 09:05.44 | lftsy | the query are generated by *, both SIP OPTIONS and mysql query |
| 09:10.42 | lftsy | I have a gdm running, but I have some trouble understanding it... |
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| 09:19.02 | lftsy | I'm going to reopen this issue. Thanks |
| 09:19.18 | shamelessn00b | hey whats the basic procedure upgrading asterisk to 1.6.x from 1.4.x |
| 09:37.57 | ChannelZ | read UPGRADE-1.6.txt |
| 09:38.11 | ChannelZ | backup your current configs, install, put things back in place and test test test |
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| 09:54.59 | shamelessn00b | :) |
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| 10:12.21 | EmleyMoor | What mobile phones are available these days with WLAN and either already-installed or easily addable SIP or IAX? |
| 10:13.19 | ChannelZ | Droid I think |
| 10:13.37 | fenrus | a regurlar cellphone + wlan + SIP ? |
| 10:13.52 | EmleyMoor | "Droid"? |
| 10:14.01 | ChannelZ | DROID |
| 10:14.08 | ChannelZ | <says mechanically> |
| 10:14.21 | EmleyMoor | fenrus: Yes - if I am unable to get my N95 working again# |
| 10:14.47 | ChannelZ | Jesus, here's a dumb f*ing politically correct question on a survey: "Which of the following best describes your gender: () Male () Female" |
| 10:16.18 | EmleyMoor | Not sure Droid is available here |
| 10:16.45 | ChannelZ | here is where |
| 10:16.54 | EmleyMoor | UK |
| 10:17.00 | ChannelZ | ah |
| 10:17.06 | ChannelZ | well it's an Android phone |
| 10:19.19 | EmleyMoor | HTC Dream might be an option I guess |
| 10:19.39 | ChannelZ | see sipdroid - I'm off to bed |
| 10:22.33 | EmleyMoor | Being what it is, I guess all Android phones are effectively "much of a muchness" when it comes to what can be done... do any networks mess about with them? |
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| 10:27.47 | sgimeno | hi, i'm using asterisk 1.4.26.1 and i'm having problems with realtime queues. The members that are defined as Local/XXXXX@context are marked as Invalid. I have unloaded and loaded app_queue.so and the problem remains. Any idea of what might be happening? |
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| 10:47.15 | Dovid | why the local ? |
| 10:47.30 | Dovid | sgimeno: Why not XXXXXX@context ? |
| 10:47.40 | Dovid | Anyone from Canada ? |
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| 10:51.00 | sgimeno | Dovid: I'm using the syntax defined in queues.conf. From the sample: member => Local/1000@default,0,John Smith,SIP/1000 |
| 10:51.32 | sgimeno | Dovid: If I define the queue static, this problem is not happening |
| 10:56.57 | Helix001 | hi i am completely new the voip technology and asterisk, i have started reading the Asterisk book, and i want to implement asterisk on our network, will it to possible to integrate asterisk with our PSTN PBX? |
| 10:57.00 | tzafrir_laptop | EmleyMoor, "Andro" is latin for "man" |
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| 10:58.16 | EmleyMoor | tzafrir_laptop: Aware of that... |
| 10:58.37 | mahiti-irc | hi guys i have asterisk 1.4 from source on centos 5 |
| 10:58.52 | tzafrir_laptop | sorry, I thought you were answering to the line above... |
| 10:58.56 | EmleyMoor | is hoping not to have to change his phone... but if he does, it could be a problem getting everything just right |
| 10:59.06 | mahiti-irc | can you tell me how do i log the outgoing calls sender and receiever |
| 10:59.45 | mchou | mahiti-irc: hmm?? |
| 11:00.03 | mchou | mahiti-irc: it is automatically logged |
| 11:00.10 | mchou | cdr-csv or whatever |
| 11:00.16 | mahiti-irc | but i dont get the numbers in cdr-csv |
| 11:00.23 | mahiti-irc | the phone numbers |
| 11:00.38 | mchou | paste a sample line in pastebin |
| 11:01.37 | mahiti-irc | http://pastebin.com/m7a472662 |
| 11:01.41 | mahiti-irc | heres it mchou |
| 11:02.12 | mchou | yeah, agi and 's' extension |
| 11:02.23 | mchou | that's ba bit problematic |
| 11:02.31 | mchou | s/ba/a/ |
| 11:02.32 | mahiti-irc | oh |
| 11:03.12 | mahiti-irc | any idea how can i resolve that problem |
| 11:03.18 | mchou | you're probably executing a macro or goto, right? |
| 11:03.34 | mchou | hence the 's' extension |
| 11:04.20 | mchou | and there's really no telling what the agi itself is doing too.... |
| 11:04.59 | mchou | mahiti-irc: let me know what you find out :) |
| 11:06.16 | mahiti-irc | mchou i am not executing a macro but a php based agi |
| 11:06.25 | mchou | nono |
| 11:06.32 | mahiti-irc | ? |
| 11:06.42 | mchou | I mean you probably jumped to another context |
| 11:07.09 | mchou | and that context contains (or calls) the agi |
| 11:07.34 | mchou | i.e. [agioutdemo] context |
| 11:07.58 | mchou | which calls testagi.php |
| 11:09.00 | mahiti-irc | no mchou i am having a call file that calls the agioutdemo context |
| 11:11.09 | mahiti-irc | which in turn calls for testagi.php |
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| 11:13.46 | fci | hi all |
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| 11:16.10 | fci | I have a big problem with a patton sn4552/2bis/eui, after i've uploaded a conf file it refuse to dialog with me, seem to be down even the wan and the lan ports. probably i'm offtopic but i really need help |
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| 12:01.52 | Zeeek | twas the night before xmas and all through Freenode... |
| 12:02.17 | Zeeek | not a T1 was flaming cause the server was hosed... |
| 12:02.50 | Zeeek | The Asterisk™ users were all huddled en masse... |
| 12:03.16 | Zeeek | until someone slipped and broke their third vertebrae |
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| 12:21.02 | coppice | its not xmas. its solstice |
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| 12:57.44 | angryuser | i am struggling with CPU soft lockup, something wrong with dahdi ? http://www.pastebin.ca/1723621 |
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| 12:58.35 | angryuser | Do i need dummy for the queues music on hold ? |
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| 13:05.38 | russellb | you don't have to have it, but it generally works best if you do have it |
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| 13:17.45 | angryuser | I will drop it, we will see |
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| 13:20.36 | tzafrir_laptop | angryuser, what version of dahdi? |
| 13:22.56 | angryuser | tzafrir_laptop, crap, removed and got kernel panic, ehh i will get a new one from source |
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| 13:37.15 | eth01 | we have an asterisk based phone system |
| 13:37.33 | eth01 | which uses BT isdn rather than VOIP |
| 13:38.14 | eth01 | we've now added a stargate GSM box |
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| 13:38.31 | eth01 | but it wont push the call through the stargate box |
| 13:38.33 | eth01 | (long shot i know) |
| 13:38.39 | eth01 | but any ideas on what we need to look out for? |
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| 13:41.00 | ManxPower-work | pastebin the cli output of a failed call and pary |
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| 13:41.11 | ManxPower-work | and pray |
| 13:41.51 | sun28 | moin |
| 13:42.05 | [TK]D-Fender | plus |
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| 13:44.45 | beek | morning [TK]D-Fender, jaytee, ManxPower-work , et al |
| 13:44.59 | jaytee | morning beek |
| 13:45.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Who's Al? |
| 13:45.26 | beek | Turing.... am I a real person or am I a machine? |
| 13:45.48 | Berliner | Let me check with HAL |
| 13:46.03 | beek | I wouldn't do that, Berliner |
| 13:46.20 | Berliner | Yeah, probably a bad idea |
| 13:46.25 | Berliner | He's on a mission right now |
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| 13:59.38 | Zeeek | I missed some brilliant repartee... |
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| 14:05.18 | ariel_ | Morning folks |
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| 14:13.13 | kevm | hi how do i change folders in linux need to go to folder "var/hud" then execute a file that I have placed there? |
| 14:13.17 | kevm | thx |
| 14:13.49 | dlynes | kevm: 'cd' ... for linux questions in the future, you can ask them in ##linux, though |
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| 14:14.18 | kevm | sorry trying to install off a hud script |
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| 14:14.25 | kevm | and i'm new to linux |
| 14:14.29 | kevm | changed the folder now |
| 14:14.37 | dlynes | kevm: obviously :) |
| 14:14.39 | kevm | how do i execute a file there? |
| 14:14.52 | dlynes | kevm: ./programname |
| 14:15.27 | dlynes | what is 'hud'? |
| 14:15.41 | kevm | so I type this in the command line "./hud.tar.gz" right? |
| 14:15.45 | dlynes | no |
| 14:15.51 | dlynes | hud.tar.gz isn't a command |
| 14:15.59 | dlynes | It's like a zip file |
| 14:16.19 | dlynes | It sounds like you need a hell of a lot more than just ##linux |
| 14:16.26 | dlynes | You need a roadmap to linux |
| 14:18.10 | ManxPower-work | kevm: you will FAIL at Asterisk if you don't learn some linux |
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| 14:18.13 | Katty | yawns, stares blankly |
| 14:19.54 | dlynes | kevm: Try the following books: http://my.safaribooksonline.com/0596000251 and http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=linux+for+dummies&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq= |
| 14:20.19 | beek | Good morning Katty. |
| 14:20.39 | dlynes | After doing a google search for those two books, it's amazing how many sites there are to download 'free' books |
| 14:20.58 | ManxPower-work | dlynes: "free" as in "give us your credit card number" |
| 14:21.45 | dlynes | ManxPower-work: no free, as in let's take your credit card number and email address, and sell them to some guy in pakistan that'll sell it to a bunch of other people and ring htem up really high, and infect your computer with some spyware while we're at it |
| 14:23.08 | voipmonk | thats what torrents are for ..... and rapidlibrary |
| 14:23.35 | dlynes | voipmonk: yeah...most of those sites all link back to rapidshare, whatever that is |
| 14:23.43 | voipmonk | hehe |
| 14:23.45 | dlynes | voipmonk: seems like a front for the russian mafia or something |
| 14:24.10 | Katty | hi beek |
| 14:24.11 | voipmonk | if it is - then they are holding the Library of Alexandria for ransom.... |
| 14:24.21 | dlynes | voipmonk: why's that? |
| 14:24.54 | voipmonk | supposedly a library that was burned down due to its stock of occult and ancient wisdom. |
| 14:25.04 | jaytee | dlynes, there is no such thing as the russian mafia and people that keep insisting there is or mention it too often have a habit of disappearing so be careful! |
| 14:25.27 | dlynes | voipmonk: don't know about it getting burned down for that...I know it got burned down |
| 14:25.42 | dlynes | voipmonk: it's back up and running, and hosts the only mirror of wikipedia at the moment |
| 14:25.42 | ManxPower-work | And helped touch off the Dark Ages |
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| 14:25.57 | lwh | besides rapidshare is swiss not russian |
| 14:26.17 | voipmonk | ok, Ive got some time to learn something new... |
| 14:26.18 | voipmonk | why |
| 14:26.25 | voipmonk | why burn a Library? :) |
| 14:26.26 | dlynes | lwh: ic....all i know is that it used to have a .de domain |
| 14:26.44 | dlynes | voipmonk: because it warms the cockles of your heart |
| 14:27.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Maybe in the sub-cockle area |
| 14:28.32 | [TK]D-Fender | maybe in the liver, maybe in the kidneys |
| 14:28.41 | [TK]D-Fender | maybe even in the colon |
| 14:28.46 | [TK]D-Fender | We don't know |
| 14:30.22 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fender, you messed with the screen capture feature of the lastest Polycom SIP images? |
| 14:30.45 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Never heard of... and I don't have a new enough phone to run it anyway... |
| 14:31.00 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: well..... I have some 320's, and 430's, but... ew |
| 14:31.48 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fender, well, I could see it as more of a troubleshooting tool. End user says, "I have this thingy on my display". You go to http://phoneIP/captureScreen and it shows a BMP of what's being displayed on the screen. |
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| 14:32.35 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Oh, that I'd heard of at least.... your terminology is a bit off.. |
| 14:32.45 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: You made it seem like there was a set-direct capture feature |
| 14:32.53 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: that would deposit a file for example |
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| 14:33.20 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fender, ah. I was just trying to use what they call it (and the link calls it). Have you messed with it at all yet? |
| 14:33.34 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Nope... |
| 14:33.44 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: I don't care what they show.... I care what I can put on them :) |
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| 14:36.12 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fender, do you use any software with * and your Polycoms to do screen popups, Outlook integration, etc. on end-user workstations? |
| 14:37.37 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: I made a custom idle & service set of scripts for 10s refresh queue stats for login/pause/on-call stats for 4 agents & 2 queues |
| 14:39.18 | etfonhomey | [TK]D-Fender, did you talk to * through AMI? |
| 14:39.43 | [TK]D-Fender | etfonhomey: Yup |
| 14:45.48 | Katty | breakfast time for squirrlies |
| 14:46.44 | eppigy | :D |
| 14:47.47 | Katty | eppigy: i was pondering a dr pepper |
| 14:48.37 | eppigy | Katty: they are good |
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| 14:55.31 | Katty | oh dear lord. |
| 14:55.36 | leifmadsen | yes? |
| 14:55.40 | Katty | first sip of soda after nearly 3 months soda free. |
| 14:55.53 | leifmadsen | Katty: PUT DOWN THE SODA. |
| 14:55.58 | leifmadsen | s/SODA/POP/ |
| 14:55.59 | Katty | but it's sooooo good |
| 14:56.13 | leifmadsen | Katty: I know... that's why I can't buy it anymore. |
| 14:56.21 | Katty | i just got 1 can |
| 14:56.25 | Katty | and it's not diet |
| 14:56.27 | Katty | it's regular. |
| 14:56.35 | Katty | so no aspartamey hunger side effects, theoretically |
| 14:58.26 | [TK]D-Fender | waits for Katty to go into HFCS shock.... |
| 15:01.25 | Katty | yeah i probably will |
| 15:01.30 | Katty | it's the second ingredient on this list |
| 15:02.09 | eppigy | NEIN |
| 15:02.21 | BirchQuickly | Shuddup cookie monster |
| 15:02.48 | Katty | :< |
| 15:03.44 | eppigy | that is just mean 8[] |
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| 15:04.11 | Katty | eppigy: did you listen to that song |
| 15:04.30 | Katty | eppigy: In The Mood For Love |
| 15:04.49 | eppigy | YESH |
| 15:05.03 | Katty | did you like it |
| 15:05.14 | eppigy | Yes I have heard it before |
| 15:05.17 | eppigy | it is a good song |
| 15:05.37 | Katty | :> |
| 15:06.10 | eppigy | :D |
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| 15:15.14 | bcrisp | top of the mornin |
| 15:17.51 | Katty | hi crispy |
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| 15:21.15 | Katty | do they make really strong, adhesive, magnets? |
| 15:21.34 | Katty | something that could say, support around 10lbs in a 12 inch strip |
| 15:21.36 | bcrisp | ya.. what do you have in mind? |
| 15:21.52 | Katty | i tried velcro, but the squirrels have tipped the tray again |
| 15:21.58 | bcrisp | ah |
| 15:22.04 | BirchQuickly | sings Birch on Quicklyyyy, and don't let go.. |
| 15:22.28 | Katty | bcrisp: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/squirrel-critter-cam <- they're going to knock seed all over the porch again |
| 15:22.41 | Katty | :< |
| 15:23.24 | bcrisp | can't you tie that badboy down more? |
| 15:24.17 | Katty | idk what TO |
| 15:24.33 | BirchQuickly | Your background isn't seamless |
| 15:24.45 | Katty | BirchQuickly: enjoy the stream, or don't watch it |
| 15:24.46 | bcrisp | its hard for me to see how its all strung up |
| 15:24.55 | Katty | bcrisp: there is a nail going into a 2x4 |
| 15:25.00 | Katty | bcrisp: from there, dangles a chain |
| 15:25.01 | BirchQuickly | But the nuts are irregular |
| 15:25.08 | BirchQuickly | Its VERY distracting |
| 15:25.15 | Katty | bcrisp: attached to the chain is the tray, the 4 pieces of string connect to a hook |
| 15:25.19 | Katty | BirchQuickly: then don't watch. |
| 15:25.35 | Katty | bcrisp:it leans up against the wall |
| 15:25.38 | BirchQuickly | But.. I love squrrels |
| 15:25.45 | BirchQuickly | squirrels too |
| 15:25.49 | Katty | BirchQuickly: then keep your knickers on and watch (= |
| 15:26.02 | BirchQuickly | I know.. but those irregular nuts |
| 15:26.14 | Katty | SHUSH |
| 15:27.06 | bcrisp | BirchQuickly: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/07/23/awesome-css-is-aweso.html |
| 15:27.39 | BirchQuickly | Exactly! |
| 15:27.50 | Chainsaw | bcrisp: I approve of the mug, not of the random page it's on. |
| 15:27.52 | bcrisp | i love that mug |
| 15:28.03 | bcrisp | Chainsaw, ya... ad-heaven, srry |
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| 15:28.20 | BirchQuickly | Ohhh a Palm Pixi |
| 15:28.30 | BirchQuickly | How Suki |
| 15:28.49 | BirchQuickly | Palm is just Shiti and should be stopped |
| 15:30.08 | bcrisp | extensions.conf is getting on my nerves |
| 15:33.14 | Katty | omnomnomnomnom |
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| 15:33.34 | voipmonk | sounds like a chant.. |
| 15:33.43 | Katty | it's the squirrel breakfast chant |
| 15:33.44 | voipmonk | rings the pavlov bell of yummy |
| 15:34.04 | Chainsaw | bcrisp: Yes, dial plans are fun. |
| 15:35.21 | bcrisp | it looks like a basic program.. |
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| 15:39.09 | bcrisp | BASIC rather |
| 15:39.46 | Chainsaw | Ah yes, jumps and line numbers. I suppose so. |
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| 15:46.54 | dlynes | Katty: nothing like squirrel ass in your face, first thing in the morning |
| 15:46.56 | dlynes | blinks. |
| 15:47.09 | Katty | dangit |
| 15:47.12 | Katty | they knocked it all over the porch again |
| 15:47.32 | Katty | so much for velcro. |
| 15:49.31 | bcrisp | duct tape, vice grips and wd40 is all you need |
| 15:49.53 | bcrisp | (for 99% of household jobs :) |
| 15:50.08 | Katty | i don't want my home looking like the ghetto |
| 15:50.50 | Katty | is christmas eve the 24th? |
| 15:50.51 | dlynes | what I wouldn't give for some nice squirrel fried rice |
| 15:50.57 | dlynes | yes |
| 15:51.01 | bcrisp | squirrel jambalaya? |
| 15:51.11 | leifmadsen | Katty: it is this year, ya |
| 15:51.17 | beek | sweet and sour squirrel |
| 15:51.28 | bcrisp | moo goo gai squirrel |
| 15:51.48 | dlynes | bcrisp: i don't get that |
| 15:51.55 | bcrisp | (moo goo gai pan) |
| 15:51.55 | dlynes | bcrisp: what the hell is moo goo gai anything? |
| 15:52.13 | dlynes | bcrisp: I've only ever seen it on the menu in the US chinese restaurants |
| 15:52.21 | bcrisp | :/ |
| 15:52.26 | dlynes | bcrisp: never ordered it, though... |
| 15:52.27 | Katty | dude |
| 15:52.30 | Katty | that's the day after tomorrow |
| 15:52.43 | dlynes | applauds Katty. |
| 15:52.45 | bcrisp | its actually mogugaipin |
| 15:52.47 | dlynes | no kidding :) |
| 15:52.50 | bcrisp | (cantonese dish) |
| 15:52.50 | Katty | dlynes: oh shut up :P |
| 15:53.07 | dlynes | hehehe |
| 15:53.08 | Katty | i was thinking this friday was ryan's family's christmas thing |
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| 15:53.19 | bcrisp | i need to go shopping |
| 15:53.22 | Katty | but it's actually THURSDAY |
| 15:53.26 | dlynes | Nah...Charlie Brown's christmas thing |
| 15:53.42 | Katty | which means 3 boys under the age of 5, two girls one 7 and one 9, and a 16 year old male |
| 15:53.57 | ManxPower-work | That sounds like the 3rd level of Dante's hell |
| 15:54.03 | Katty | oh i'm just getting started |
| 15:54.09 | Katty | then you have ryan's two sisters, and his brother |
| 15:54.15 | Katty | his parents, grand parents.. |
| 15:54.20 | Katty | and usually the neighbors swing by for an hour |
| 15:54.21 | ManxPower-work | Katty: do yourself a favor -- skip all those silly things |
| 15:54.24 | bcrisp | yay christmas scream-a-thon |
| 15:54.30 | Katty | let's hope the relatives from texas don't show up >.< |
| 15:54.36 | Katty | they are CREEPY |
| 15:54.39 | dlynes | Katty: put a big closed for the season sign up on your front door |
| 15:54.49 | Katty | dlynes: oh it's not at my house |
| 15:54.58 | dlynes | Katty: call in sick, then |
| 15:55.13 | dlynes | Katty: the stomach flu's going around |
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| 15:56.11 | Katty | no way! |
| 15:56.24 | Katty | it's too hilarious to see all those kids hanging all over the uncle ryan |
| 15:56.30 | Katty | and that irritated scowl on his face |
| 15:56.38 | eppigy | man |
| 15:56.41 | eppigy | i hate that |
| 15:56.48 | Katty | it's amusing to watch ;) |
| 15:56.48 | bcrisp | im gonna be taking a 6 hour rural train ride in mainland china in the middle of winter |
| 15:56.57 | eppigy | i started dressing like an adult at the family things |
| 15:57.01 | eppigy | so now they leave me alone |
| 15:57.03 | bcrisp | during the busiest travel time of the year |
| 15:57.16 | Katty | they leave me alone, they're not sure what to think of me...except the one little girl named Holly who asks me if i'm going to be her Auntie everytime she sees me |
| 15:57.25 | Zeeek | I leave for a minute and see what happens |
| 15:57.25 | bcrisp | lol |
| 15:57.34 | eppigy | Katty: oh boy |
| 15:57.35 | eppigy | lol |
| 15:57.40 | bcrisp | Katty - do you have any kids that ask if you're going to die soon, and can they have X, Y, and Z? |
| 15:57.55 | Katty | ^_- |
| 15:57.57 | Katty | no |
| 15:58.00 | bcrisp | thas good :) |
| 15:58.03 | Katty | i ahve 6 children |
| 15:58.05 | Katty | SIX |
| 15:58.06 | Katty | children |
| 15:58.08 | Katty | all boys |
| 15:58.10 | bcrisp | omg |
| 15:58.18 | bcrisp | thats a small platoon |
| 15:58.21 | Katty | Merry Pippin Sammy Shire BB and Riddick |
| 15:58.34 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: you mean nieces and nephews? |
| 15:58.42 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: i was refering to the pets, actually |
| 15:58.45 | [TK]D-Fender | No... she means pets... |
| 15:59.01 | bcrisp | i was gonna say.. thats cruel to name them all after lord of the rings characters |
| 15:59.05 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: i have no nieces or nephews. |
| 15:59.09 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: my sister can't have children |
| 15:59.19 | Katty | bcrisp: riddick isn't after lord of the rings :P |
| 15:59.20 | Corydon76-dig | Ah... I have 6 nieces and nephews |
| 15:59.22 | bcrisp | i just watched chronicles of riddick |
| 15:59.25 | Katty | bcrisp: they're little hOBBITS |
| 15:59.27 | bcrisp | and pitch black |
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| 15:59.42 | Katty | bcrisp: so now you know why i named the guard dog riddick! |
| 15:59.50 | Katty | hi Naikrovek |
| 15:59.54 | bcrisp | ya ... hes good in movies where he doesnt do much talking |
| 16:00.01 | Katty | bcrisp: agreed. |
| 16:00.03 | bcrisp | (more killing with blunt objects) |
| 16:00.09 | Naikrovek | hola |
| 16:00.20 | bcrisp | ~whee |
| 16:00.21 | infobot | [~whee] Weeeeeeeee! http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/weeee |
| 16:00.22 | Corydon76-dig | bcrisp: I also love people who call something pitch black, who have no idea what pitch is |
| 16:00.23 | Katty | bcrisp: a good strong german shepherd name, me thinks |
| 16:00.35 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: pitch is tar? |
| 16:00.48 | Katty | googles |
| 16:01.04 | Katty | thick, dark, sticky substances obtained from the distillation resideu of coal tar |
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| 16:01.55 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: that's a lot of nieces and newphews |
| 16:01.58 | Katty | newphews? |
| 16:03.35 | bmoraca | what is the refresh period of rtcachefriends when using realtime to store sip peers? |
| 16:04.08 | dlynes | Katty: I've invited Craig Newmark over to check out your cam |
| 16:04.09 | leifmadsen | bmoraca: there is no refresh |
| 16:04.16 | dlynes | Katty: He's a big squirrel fan, too |
| 16:04.19 | Katty | dlynes: who's that? |
| 16:04.25 | dlynes | Katty: the founder of Craigslist |
| 16:04.29 | Katty | k |
| 16:04.33 | bmoraca | leifmadsen, so the peer database stays constant until i prune it? |
| 16:04.39 | dlynes | Katty: http://twitter.com/craignewmark |
| 16:04.45 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: 3 of each, though not in that order |
| 16:04.53 | leifmadsen | bmoraca: or until you modify sip.conf to prune it |
| 16:05.14 | Corydon76-dig | BGGBGB |
| 16:05.34 | leifmadsen | bmoraca: see rtautoclear and ignoreregexpire |
| 16:05.40 | leifmadsen | sip.conf.sample really is your friend |
| 16:06.04 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: age range? |
| 16:06.10 | Katty | hello mister madsen |
| 16:06.14 | leifmadsen | Katty: allo! |
| 16:06.25 | Katty | leifmadsen: we should hug |
| 16:06.33 | leifmadsen | Katty: yes, we should. I'll schedule it! |
| 16:06.42 | Katty | leifmadsen: send me an invite |
| 16:06.46 | leifmadsen | Katty: ok! |
| 16:06.52 | bmoraca | yeah, i deleted the sample sip.conf...i wasn't intending to use realtime, but i ended up thinking it might be a good idea to avoid reloading as much or something like that |
| 16:06.58 | Katty | dlynes: personal friend of yours? |
| 16:07.08 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: 8 to infant |
| 16:07.17 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: dear lord, you poor thing. |
| 16:07.17 | dlynes | Katty: no, but i do talk to him on twitter from time to time |
| 16:07.23 | Katty | dlynes: ah. k |
| 16:07.45 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: they all live in places that are more than 2 states away |
| 16:08.00 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: lucky you! |
| 16:08.12 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: ryan's immediately family is all within about an hour of cape |
| 16:08.16 | Corydon76-dig | Nah, I'd enjoy seeing them more |
| 16:08.26 | bcrisp | Corydon76-dig, im sorry did you just insult me? |
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| 16:08.43 | Katty | it's great, all except the When Are You Getting Married questions |
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| 16:08.58 | Corydon76-dig | bcrisp: No, I insulted my boyfriend, who called some clouds "pitch black" the other day |
| 16:09.04 | bcrisp | oh heh |
| 16:09.10 | bcrisp | i was just quoting a movie title |
| 16:09.21 | Corydon76-dig | You just reminded me of it |
| 16:09.44 | bcrisp | it bothers me when people say "disorientated" |
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| 16:10.10 | Corydon76-dig | bcrisp: that only applies to Mr. Potato Head |
| 16:10.30 | bcrisp | i hear it from time to time from news reports etc |
| 16:11.57 | denke | Hello! I neeed some help with misdn. Someone please help. misdn.so sais tone_SILENCE is undefined and I don't know why |
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| 16:14.15 | denke | someone? |
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| 16:17.27 | denke | Is tehere any mISDN expert? |
| 16:17.52 | Katty | denke: patience is a virtue |
| 16:17.54 | Katty | denke: develop it. |
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| 16:19.40 | denke | I would be patent, If I'd know that I will get any answer, now I just needed some attention |
| 16:20.12 | angryuser | ~ask |
| 16:20.13 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 16:21.23 | bcrisp | denke you have provided no information that could be used to troubleshoot your issue |
| 16:21.41 | bcrisp | its like saying "owwwww I hurt, fix me" |
| 16:21.50 | Katty | denke: there is NO gaurantee here that you will get a resolution |
| 16:21.58 | Katty | denke: if you need immediate assistance, i would recommend hiring a consultant. |
| 16:22.02 | Katty | denke: we are all volunteers. |
| 16:22.07 | denke | misdn.so sais tone_SILENCE is undefined and I don't know why, and how to resolve |
| 16:22.14 | Nivex | bcrisp: which is probably what most people say to their doctors. then again doctors get paid a hell of a lot more than we do :) |
| 16:22.25 | Katty | denke: ask your question, provide supporting information, and if anyone wishes to help they will. |
| 16:23.05 | Katty | denke: being impatient and demanding will get you NOWHERE. |
| 16:23.16 | Naikrovek | quickly |
| 16:23.24 | Katty | denke: but it will get you the boot (= |
| 16:23.39 | eppigy | NEIN |
| 16:23.45 | Katty | hello dear. |
| 16:24.45 | denke | All right, I will be more informative now. misdn.so sais tone_SILENCE is undefined and I don't know why, and how to resolve newest mcapi, asterisk, dahdi libpri etc. |
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| 16:27.15 | Katty | so the earth rotates and it has a 23.44 degree tilt. what do you think would happen if it continued to rotate, but didn't tilt on its axis? i mean /clearly/ it would always be summer in australia and winter in the north western hemisphere |
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| 16:27.58 | Katty | what would really happen tho? |
| 16:28.23 | SuPrSluG | equinox 4 ever |
| 16:28.42 | Katty | i think the tides would be snickerdoodled up |
| 16:28.58 | eppigy | Katty: hi |
| 16:29.06 | Katty | one of the poles would get warmer |
| 16:29.12 | SuPrSluG | i bet the laberdoodle would like that |
| 16:29.17 | Katty | in this senario it'd be the south pole. |
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| 16:30.43 | Katty | hmm. even in summer the south pole only hits -13F |
| 16:31.25 | Katty | record high was 7F |
| 16:31.45 | Katty | THAT"S ANOTHER THING |
| 16:31.59 | Katty | how is santa supposed to be at the north pole |
| 16:32.03 | Katty | it's all artic ocean |
| 16:32.32 | Katty | santa's gonna have to battle russia for it |
| 16:32.32 | leifmadsen | Katty: well, the tides are due to the gravitational pull of the moon |
| 16:32.49 | Naikrovek | not literally north pole, that's just the name of the place. could be albequerque, really |
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| 16:34.11 | Katty | leifmadsen: it's also affected by the seasons. |
| 16:34.16 | Katty | leifmadsen: hense spring and neap tides |
| 16:34.52 | Naikrovek | mmm.. chanukah ham... delish |
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| 16:35.43 | Katty | leifmadsen: messing up the tides would probably mess up the currents. |
| 16:36.46 | Katty | leifmadsen: you'd also have air pression changes due to one portion of the earth constantly having heating in the upper atmospher |
| 16:37.00 | Katty | leifmadsen: and the other half, in this case the northwestern hemisphere having little to no heat |
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| 16:38.17 | Katty | leifmadsen: that would mess up migration patterns |
| 16:38.49 | eppigy | MIGRATORY PATTERNS |
| 16:38.59 | eppigy | APPROACHING PI |
| 16:39.30 | Qwell | pie = pi * e = 8.53973422 |
| 16:39.33 | Katty | you'd have one portion of the earth hot, and one portion of the earth cold...and probably massive wind storms in the twilight areas. |
| 16:41.56 | Katty | in short: Major Bummer |
| 16:41.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: a planetary McDLT |
| 16:42.15 | denke | Hello! misdn.so sais tone_SILENCE is undefined and I don't know why, and how to resolve newest mcapi, asterisk, dahdi libpri etc. would somebody help? |
| 16:42.52 | Qwell | denke: how did it sais that? |
| 16:43.06 | Naikrovek | lol |
| 16:43.20 | denke | During module load misdn.so fails to load bechause of that |
| 16:43.42 | Katty | speaking of lunch |
| 16:43.42 | denke | but the compileing went well |
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| 16:43.51 | Katty | afks |
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| 16:46.09 | chazzm | what do you mean by "resolve" newest asterisk, dahdi, libpri ? |
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| 16:47.09 | chazzm | http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/libpri/ http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/dahdi-linux-complete/ http://downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/ |
| 16:47.13 | timholum | for some reason if I do exten => 2XX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}) and I dial 201 it tells me extention not recognized bit if I do exten => 201,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}) it works fine? |
| 16:47.25 | timholum | i thought X was for any number? |
| 16:47.33 | chazzm | you need _2XX |
| 16:47.34 | denke | chazzm: resolve, newest asterisk .... |
| 16:47.35 | *** join/#asterisk porter (n=terdon@unaffiliated/porter/x-000001) |
| 16:47.38 | chazzm | to tell asterisk it is a pattern |
| 16:47.42 | timholum | ok I will try that thanks |
| 16:48.09 | lwh | anyone tried to make cdr mysql on cent5.3 |
| 16:48.42 | timholum | Thank you that worked, |
| 16:49.06 | chazzm | denke, I still don't understand what you mean by resolve there, can you describe yoru meaning in morewords and preferrably different ones? |
| 16:49.07 | timholum | lwh I am currently working on that on cent5.4 |
| 16:49.17 | porter | hi folks, i have a question : my DSL provider offers me VOIP, but no FAX service, is there a way for me to implement FAX services? |
| 16:49.29 | timholum | I have sip extentions working but thats as far as I am now |
| 16:49.31 | lwh | I manually put libs&inc in makeopts and cdr dir builds but then the app dir one fails |
| 16:50.55 | porter | (in case i forgot to mention : my ISP has no spine) |
| 16:50.58 | denke | <chazzm>: resolve is about the issue, to resolve the problem, I missed a "," , and then I detail the sw versions |
| 16:51.36 | timholum | http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+asterisk+1.4+installation the guide I am following |
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| 16:52.39 | timholum | sorry its http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/CentOS+5+and+Asterisk+1.4.x+installation |
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| 16:53.31 | telnettech | porter: could use POTS line for fax |
| 16:53.58 | chazzm | denke, specific asterisk/dahdi/libpri versions and your kernel version and distro please? |
| 16:54.04 | denke | <chazzm> "you need _2XX" you mean version? |
| 16:54.58 | porter | 'POTS line' .... doesn't ring a bell, thanks telnettech , i'll check! |
| 16:55.13 | timholum | he ment I needed exten => _2XX,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}) |
| 16:55.34 | porter | its a start, (i admit, i dont know much about this stuff) |
| 16:57.00 | chazzm | denke, that was about the dialplan logic, timholum needed the underscore to make his pattern match work. and I jsut realized he already said that ;) |
| 16:57.27 | denke | <chazzm> kernel 2.6.32-grsec (misdn, fritz!) fedora12 asterisk-1.6.19 dahdi-2.1.0.3 |
| 16:57.43 | chazzm | 1.6.19 isn't a real asterisk version |
| 16:57.49 | chazzm | and have you tried an older kernel at all for this? |
| 16:58.02 | Katty | 1.6.19 is indeed a real version. |
| 16:58.09 | telnettech | porter: Plain Old Telephone Service.....POTS |
| 16:58.17 | denke | <chazzm>: The misdn module doesn't load, not a dialplan problem |
| 16:58.20 | fenrus | psdn! |
| 16:58.21 | porter | telnettech: :-) No!, i got no POTS line here |
| 16:58.23 | fenrus | *pstn |
| 16:58.26 | chazzm | there is only 1.6.0, 1.6.1, and 1.6.2 Katty |
| 16:58.36 | chazzm | they haven't made it to 1.6.19, and don't plan to |
| 16:58.49 | chazzm | http://www.asterisk.org/asterisk-versions |
| 16:59.00 | denke | <chazzm>sorry 1.6.1.9 |
| 16:59.19 | porter | telnettech: the term "pots line" wasnt familiar to me, all i got here is a plain DATA line, sip is working fine though |
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| 16:59.40 | porter | next i'd need would be some fax service |
| 16:59.41 | Katty | chazzm: if you want to argue with me about the legitimacy of the version, i will be more than happy to link it for you |
| 16:59.45 | Nivex | porter: fancy meeting you here :) |
| 16:59.47 | HaMF | chazzm, there's no 1.0.X listed on this page :| |
| 17:00.04 | porter | hey Nivex :-) surprise surpise |
| 17:00.06 | porter | heh |
| 17:00.09 | HaMF | ;) |
| 17:00.12 | telnettech | porter: if your ISP doesnt support T.38 then the Data line isnt going to help you to get Fax service |
| 17:00.19 | chazzm | denke, have you tried searching issues.asterisk.org for your error message, it may just be that your kernel is new enough that something changed and it hasn't been fixed yet |
| 17:00.45 | telnettech | the alternative is a POTS line from local telco |
| 17:00.54 | denke | I tried ggoleing, but I see only 3 issues about that, and none are resolved |
| 17:00.55 | chazzm | katty, I would like to see a link to 1.6.19, denke already confirmed he has 1.6.1.9, there is a 1.6.0.19, but no 1.6.19. |
| 17:01.02 | porter | telnettech: i see, this is bad news |
| 17:01.07 | porter | :-( |
| 17:01.29 | chazzm | HaMF: I believe 1.0 is already EOL |
| 17:02.21 | Qwell | chazzm: well beyond |
| 17:02.32 | chazzm | there are too many possible ways to misread a typo like 1.6.19 |
| 17:03.09 | HaMF | chazzm, I guess so. but it would be interesting to know since how it reached its EOL :). I recently discovered a server where 1.0.X is still in use. |
| 17:03.10 | chazzm | or any other asterisk version that begins with 1.6, and only has one other version number |
| 17:03.26 | porter | telnettech: is there any workaround? |
| 17:03.55 | denke | I made a typo, can we please stick to the topic? |
| 17:04.20 | chazzm | < chazzm> denke, have you tried searching issues.asterisk.org for your error message, it may just be that your kernel is new enough that something changed and it hasn't been fixed yet |
| 17:04.40 | denke | yes, even looked threw google. |
| 17:04.43 | chazzm | you replied to the first half, if those issues are unresolved, there may be a reason yet |
| 17:04.47 | timholum | has anyone tryed skypes sip beta? |
| 17:05.24 | denke | no, I did not tried an older kernel |
| 17:06.06 | denke | I found this in tone.h: #define TONE_SILENCE_SIZE 80 |
| 17:06.07 | denke | extern const unsigned char tone_SILENCE[TONE_SILENCE_SIZE]; |
| 17:06.22 | telnettech | porter: you would have to change the SIP to analog which requires an FXO gateway to connect a fax machine to your * server....better to use a POTS line to fax machine for troubleshooting purposes later |
| 17:06.27 | denke | This is the only mention of tone_silence |
| 17:08.54 | chazzm | HaMF: heh, I guess try contacting the webmaster or something and ask them to add the information about 1.0 being EOL |
| 17:09.00 | chazzm | be sure to give the URL to that page |
| 17:11.50 | Qwell | "The following table shows the release time lines for all releases of Asterisk that have not yet reached End of Life." |
| 17:11.55 | Qwell | 1.0 is not on there for a reason :p |
| 17:11.56 | chazzm | denke, sorry, I don't really have any other suggestions, you could try asking someone to look the issues if you linked them maybe, but no gaurantees there. My recommendation is try an older kernel for now if at all possible, and comment on one of the bugs you found |
| 17:12.02 | chazzm | Qwell: ahh |
| 17:12.12 | Qwell | we *don't* want people using it. at all. |
| 17:12.47 | denke | <chazzm> Thank you for your help! |
| 17:12.50 | porter | telnettech: thanks a bunch, appreciated |
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| 17:18.21 | Katty | has lunch!! |
| 17:20.58 | Kobaz | almost time for lunchinings |
| 17:20.59 | lanning | om nom nom |
| 17:24.19 | Katty | :> |
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| 17:38.05 | Sargun_Screen | Anyone here from Sangoma? |
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| 17:46.43 | ManxPower-work | Sargun_Screen: I've never seen anyone from Sangoma here. Call them. |
| 17:46.46 | eppigy | i will show you fear in a handful of dust |
| 17:48.17 | ManxPower-work | anthrax dust? |
| 17:48.27 | [TK]D-Fender | Red Dust |
| 17:50.32 | Zeeek | sniff |
| 17:55.52 | Sargun_Screen | Is digium profitable even? |
| 17:56.01 | Sargun_Screen | I mean, just curious for anyone who knows |
| 17:57.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun_Screen: Would you like to top off your flame-thrower? |
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| 18:02.45 | Sargun_Screen | [TK]D-Fender: I didn't mean it to offend. |
| 18:03.55 | Devante | hello everyone |
| 18:05.28 | Devante | I am a network admin looking to setup asterisk as a possible pbx solution for a small company and was wondering if anyone would be willing to private chat with me about some questions I may have |
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| 18:06.10 | Sargun_Screen | Devante: It would be better to ask your questions here, there are more people here. |
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| 18:06.28 | Devante | no problem I was just afraid to spam the channel with my questions :P |
| 18:06.38 | beek | Devante: We live for it. |
| 18:06.44 | Devante | hahah cool :D |
| 18:07.07 | areay | hi everyone... can someone tell me why these 2 lines of code won't work? it seems like the variable either isn't getting set or called back properly: |
| 18:07.08 | areay | exten => 8787,1,Read(digits) |
| 18:07.08 | areay | exten => 8787,n,SayDigits($(digits)) |
| 18:07.20 | beek | afternoon Sargun_Screen |
| 18:07.23 | areay | i've tried using answer() and hangup() btw |
| 18:07.42 | mchou | areay: it's supposed to be ${} |
| 18:07.55 | areay | slaps himself |
| 18:07.57 | Kobaz | answer(); hangup(); sleep(); |
| 18:07.57 | areay | sorry people |
| 18:07.57 | Devante | well I am looking to setup a pbx solution with no more than 5 phone extentions and voicemail. If I use a sip provider is there any additional hardware besides the server that I would need? any additional cards? |
| 18:07.59 | areay | thanks mchou |
| 18:08.09 | Zeeek | bye fish thx |
| 18:08.10 | areay | Kobaz, what's the sleep() part? |
| 18:08.14 | Zeeek | for all the |
| 18:08.18 | Sargun_Screen | Devante: Well, what kind of phones will you be using? |
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| 18:08.33 | Devante | not sure yet lol its very much in the intial stages |
| 18:08.35 | Sargun_Screen | My personal recommendation is Polycom IP501s. |
| 18:08.44 | dlynes | weird...anyone know anything about this new 'unlawful internet gambling' legislation that just got put through in the US? |
| 18:08.45 | Sargun_Screen | all you need then is a line with decent bandwidth. |
| 18:08.47 | Kobaz | areay: it's two days before christmas, what else are you supposed to do? |
| 18:08.58 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun_Screen: Disco'd phones... avoid |
| 18:09.06 | mchou | Sargun_Screen: not if you intend to use speakerphone |
| 18:09.07 | areay | haha |
| 18:09.10 | areay | thanks ppl |
| 18:09.23 | Sargun_Screen | mchou: In our environment there is no speaker phone. :-P |
| 18:09.29 | Devante | nice I like the sounds of this |
| 18:09.36 | Sargun_Screen | [TK]D-Fender: When did they discontinue them? |
| 18:09.43 | mchou | Sargun_Screen: and that's why you reccomend polycom ip501s |
| 18:09.49 | Sargun_Screen | We bought like...50? |
| 18:10.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Sargun_Screen: Long ago |
| 18:13.54 | Naikrovek | 550 is probably nearest the 501 |
| 18:15.58 | Naikrovek | 321, 331, and 335 also recommended |
| 18:16.21 | Naikrovek | hell they're all good |
| 18:23.38 | paulc | dlynes: there was a thing about it on TV the other night. Can't remember the main point though - it seemed kinda bunk |
| 18:23.38 | Naikrovek | wow |
| 18:23.38 | Naikrovek | and then there were 21 |
| 18:23.38 | paulc | dlynes: like "O |
| 18:23.38 | paulc | dlynes: like "This is illegal in the USA.. therefore I expect you, foreign company in another country, to prevent US people from accessing your sites etc" |
| 18:23.38 | paulc | seems kinda... bunk? |
| 18:23.38 | Naikrovek | paulc: dlynes not in here. netsplit |
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| 18:34.26 | hardwire | we should all be more willing to chip in.. you know?! |
| 18:34.26 | hardwire | is doing incredibly evil things with DUNDi |
| 18:34.26 | bcrisp | doesnt like dtmf transfers |
| 18:34.26 | hardwire | still? |
| 18:34.27 | Naikrovek | reunited |
| 18:34.27 | ManxPower-work | bcrisp: neither does any sane person |
| 18:34.27 | ManxPower-work | Sane people use the Transfer button on their phone |
| 18:34.27 | bcrisp | we're transferring from cell to other #s |
| 18:34.27 | bcrisp | call screeners on the road |
| 18:34.27 | hardwire | bcrisp: chan_agent? |
| 18:34.28 | bcrisp | negative |
| 18:34.28 | ManxPower-work | bcrisp: enable long dtmf tones on the cell phone |
| 18:34.28 | ManxPower-work | helps with calling most any IVR from a cell |
| 18:34.28 | bcrisp | ManxPower-work, ya .. the transfer doesnt give much time to begin inputting #s |
| 18:34.38 | bcrisp | oh |
| 18:34.38 | bcrisp | misread your sentence |
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| 18:34.38 | ManxPower-work | bcrisp: IIRC that is configurable |
| 18:34.39 | ManxPower-work | *nod* I can see how driving down the road, looking up customer records, and trying to do transfers would make the user be slow in entering the digits. |
| 18:34.39 | bcrisp | nah.. i meant it gives you like 1 second to start entering digits |
| 18:34.40 | ManxPower-work | And I said that IIRC that timeout is configurable |
| 18:34.40 | bcrisp | long dtmf tones on the phone itself.. looking |
| 18:34.40 | ManxPower-work | see features.conf and check the wiki (just remember half the time the wiki is wrong or outdated. |
| 18:34.40 | ManxPower-work | bcrisp: long tones on a cell is a good idea in general |
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| 18:35.27 | bcrisp | iphone doesnt appear to have a way to increase the dtmf tone length - but you can just hold your finger down and it will continue |
| 18:36.11 | Naikrovek | who was asking yesterday about asterisk on the cloud |
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| 18:36.37 | bcrisp | a few peeps.. i was wanting to know others experience with * on amazon EC2 |
| 18:36.49 | Naikrovek | bcrisp: http://forum.voxilla.com/asterisk-support-forum/asterisk-cloud-asterisk-1-6-0-5-optimized-amazon-ec2-33857.html |
| 18:36.57 | Naikrovek | bcrisp: did i speak to you yesterday about it |
| 18:37.00 | Naikrovek | my memory is terrible |
| 18:37.04 | bcrisp | no.. |
| 18:37.09 | bcrisp | i think someone else was asking |
| 18:37.10 | Naikrovek | i tried it, tested it, worked great |
| 18:37.15 | bcrisp | oh nice |
| 18:37.23 | Naikrovek | flawlessly actually |
| 18:37.30 | Naikrovek | based on my admittedly incomplete testing |
| 18:37.37 | bcrisp | did you try meetme? |
| 18:37.38 | Naikrovek | did some meetmes and all that, worked fine |
| 18:37.42 | bcrisp | oh nice |
| 18:37.50 | bcrisp | that was the only thing i heard people having issues with was the timing |
| 18:38.02 | Naikrovek | i believe it on a 32-bit virtualization platform |
| 18:38.15 | bcrisp | XEN? |
| 18:38.33 | Naikrovek | but 64-bit cpus (intel anyway) have virtualization hooks built in, the guest OSs get a direct handle on the cpu rather than going through a layer |
| 18:38.38 | Naikrovek | yes, EC2 runs xen |
| 18:38.50 | bcrisp | it looks promising |
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| 18:38.59 | Naikrovek | yeah worked great for me and my testing |
| 18:39.07 | Naikrovek | ran the echo test, several meetmes |
| 18:39.09 | Naikrovek | moh |
| 18:39.21 | Naikrovek | had several people in the room, all worked fine |
| 18:39.22 | bcrisp | we just got a new dev machine |
| 18:39.42 | Naikrovek | i test it internally on hyper-v all the time as i come up with new things to test; no issues at all |
| 18:39.50 | bcrisp | dual 6-core opteron, 24 gig ram, 64 bit |
| 18:39.59 | Naikrovek | but i'll never need any hardware interface to pots lines |
| 18:40.02 | Naikrovek | however! |
| 18:40.17 | Naikrovek | linux KVM supports assigning PCI hardware to a VM in latest betas I believe |
| 18:40.25 | bcrisp | interesting |
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| 18:40.37 | Naikrovek | so one can now virtualize their PBX and use any necessary hardware |
| 18:40.39 | ManxPower-work | hugs his VMWare |
| 18:40.50 | Naikrovek | vmware is excellent |
| 18:40.54 | bcrisp | ya |
| 18:41.00 | Naikrovek | hyper-v is no slouch either |
| 18:41.06 | Naikrovek | and xen and kvm are also great |
| 18:41.11 | bcrisp | future is all virtualization |
| 18:41.12 | Naikrovek | latest versions anyway |
| 18:41.13 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 18:41.23 | ManxPower-work | I mainly use VMware Workstation, but if I needed server VMs I'd look at all options |
| 18:41.24 | Naikrovek | divorcing hardware from software is the Way It Should Be |
| 18:41.30 | Naikrovek | good man |
| 18:41.47 | Naikrovek | when i deployed hyper-v it was for the huge licensing discount MS gives |
| 18:41.56 | ManxPower-work | But I'd not consider "hyper-v" (that's from that convicted monopolist, isn't it?) |
| 18:42.06 | Naikrovek | true |
| 18:42.10 | Naikrovek | but it can save you a ton of money |
| 18:42.22 | ManxPower-work | Only if you use Windows |
| 18:42.35 | Naikrovek | windows server datacenter licensed to host = as many windows server guest OS as you want, free |
| 18:42.35 | Naikrovek | true |
| 18:42.36 | bcrisp | unfortunately a lot of applications are written for windows :) |
| 18:42.41 | Naikrovek | we're a windows shop here |
| 18:42.52 | ManxPower-work | bcrisp: I run windows in a VM. |
| 18:43.05 | Naikrovek | vmware workstation is nice |
| 18:43.13 | Naikrovek | player is even nice now, can make vms in player these days |
| 18:43.19 | bcrisp | ManxPower-work, is that like keeping MS apps in jail? :) |
| 18:43.24 | Naikrovek | which was the one thing preventing it from being adopted widely i think |
| 18:43.35 | Naikrovek | bcrisp: yes, but windows doesn't know it's in the jail :) |
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| 18:43.40 | bcrisp | heh |
| 18:44.00 | ManxPower-work | bcrisp: exactly as it should be |
| 18:44.57 | bcrisp | id like to set up some home security cameras and route feeds through * |
| 18:45.17 | Naikrovek | uh |
| 18:45.37 | bcrisp | notice "like" |
| 18:45.51 | ManxPower-work | My VMs are mainly linux VMs for testing, with a work VM for Windows, a personal windows VM for the occasional times I need Windows. |
| 18:46.33 | Naikrovek | i worked from home as a j2ee developer for a year, all my work stuff was in a windows vm. so nice to have that all separated |
| 18:48.03 | Naikrovek | that job would have been a lot nicer if they used asterisk instead of teamspeak |
| 18:48.09 | Naikrovek | ugh teamspeak |
| 19:01.00 | Naikrovek | netsplits rule |
| 19:01.00 | Naikrovek | infobot, what's up |
| 19:01.01 | infobot | Up is the direction away from the central point of gravity. |
| 19:01.02 | Naikrovek | infobot! |
| 19:01.03 | Naikrovek | feh |
| 19:01.21 | Naikrovek | yes |
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| 19:24.45 | jblack | Corydon76-dig: I so hope that you're a girl, because I'm not |
| 19:24.45 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: I'm not |
| 19:24.59 | Corydon76-dig | Just ask my boyfriend |
| 19:24.59 | jblack | aahh, well.. um.. |
| 19:24.59 | Naikrovek | hee hee. i like it when gay people freak straight people out. |
| 19:24.59 | Naikrovek | always funny |
| 19:24.59 | jaytee | yeah |
| 19:24.59 | Naikrovek | (not directed at you, jblack) |
| 19:24.59 | beek | Agreed. |
| 19:24.59 | Katty | hugs Corydon76-dig |
| 19:24.59 | jblack | I think you should maintain a monogamous relationship with your SO. |
| 19:24.59 | Katty | Corydon76-dig: i don't care what they say, i still love you. |
| 19:25.00 | Corydon76-dig | I'm just kidding. I don't have a whip, just a chain |
| 19:25.00 | voipmonk | well , it is called "asstrix" |
| 19:25.00 | jblack | He might be hurt if he heard you were making BDSM references with another boy. |
| 19:25.00 | jblack | Besides, I'm straight. |
| 19:25.00 | beek | Katty -- now that you have the squirrel-cam, when do we get the ferret-cam? |
| 19:25.00 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: he might be hurt if he thought you lived anywhere close |
| 19:25.00 | jaytee | "Those men tried to have sex with me!!!!" - Dan Akroyd in Trading Places |
| 19:25.01 | jblack | Nah. That's not the right word. Due to certain medical issues, I'm not really batting for either team |
| 19:25.01 | jblack | looks for a way out of TMI alley |
| 19:25.01 | Corydon76-dig | hugs katty |
| 19:25.01 | beek | jblack -- not possible. The exits are blocked. |
| 19:25.33 | Corydon76-dig | Yeah, think "Carrie" |
| 19:25.33 | jblack | Hey look! Window treatments?!? |
| 19:26.11 | hardwire | bmoraca: I haven't tried either |
| 19:26.18 | bmoraca | ahh |
| 19:26.22 | hardwire | bmoraca: I'm used to using the DSP channel |
| 19:26.25 | jblack | i don't know what those are. I treat my windows awful. I don't think I've washed 'em a single time since I bought the houise |
| 19:26.31 | hardwire | bmoraca: or.. large area paging. |
| 19:26.34 | hardwire | using phones :) |
| 19:27.05 | hardwire | UPS.. tested.. that was an annoying 30 minutes. |
| 19:28.03 | Corydon76-dig | Are you now ready to test FedEx? |
| 19:28.13 | jblack | heh |
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| 19:28.39 | jblack | Corydon76-dig, you rock. |
| 19:28.59 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: So do autistic kids |
| 19:29.16 | jblack | I dub you king of the intentionally misunderstood meanings |
| 19:29.36 | Corydon76-dig | Department of Redundancy Department? |
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| 19:29.59 | jaytee | Bureau of Vagueness? |
| 19:30.27 | Corydon76-dig | Hey, you're the one who wanted to have "fun" |
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| 19:30.58 | jblack | I've heard that joke as Department of Superfluous Redundancy. |
| 19:31.08 | jblack | I still want to have fun. I can't figure out where to go. |
| 19:31.10 | Katty | UPS GUY! |
| 19:31.21 | Corydon76-dig | Katty: is he hot? |
| 19:31.27 | Katty | no idea. |
| 19:31.31 | Katty | he just drove by in a van. |
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| 19:31.42 | Katty | beek: oh, idk...later |
| 19:32.06 | beek | Squirrels I see right outside my office window. Ferrets, on the other hand... |
| 19:32.35 | Corydon76-dig | I see bunnies |
| 19:32.38 | jblack | I could buy a bb gun and shoot at cute things |
| 19:32.38 | beek | Katty-- that'd be uber cool. |
| 19:32.55 | Katty | beek: i will broadcast it this weekend then (= |
| 19:33.22 | Corydon76-dig | I see a giant bunny with huge sharp white teeth |
| 19:33.23 | beek | I'll have to remember to look. |
| 19:33.38 | jaytee | we should officially declare 2010 the year that Uber went out of fashion as a word |
| 19:33.40 | Katty | beek: i'll record it for later viewing, if you like |
| 19:33.47 | beek | That'd be very cool. |
| 19:33.49 | Katty | k |
| 19:33.59 | jblack | jaytee: That's a rad idea |
| 19:34.07 | jaytee | :-) |
| 19:34.10 | Corydon76-dig | Uber cool |
| 19:34.12 | Katty | what's the cool new replacement word then. |
| 19:34.15 | jaytee | yeah, totally groovy |
| 19:34.33 | ManxPower-work | I say let the killer bunnies take care of the squirrels. |
| 19:34.33 | jblack | I think groovy is back in |
| 19:36.35 | Katty | groovy? |
| 19:36.36 | Nugget | Can I still use "über" if I promise to spell it properly? :) |
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| 19:37.30 | Nugget | can dig it |
| 19:37.30 | Corydon76-dig | Who said he was a killer bunny? |
| 19:37.31 | Katty | i will give it a test and see how the general populas responds. |
| 19:37.31 | jblack | I am going to use "Radical!" four times today, and bring it back as a retro word. |
| 19:37.31 | ManxPower-work | Corydon76-dig: I;m sure he can be trained to be a killer |
| 19:37.32 | Corydon76-dig | ManxPower-work: he's defensive, not offensive |
| 19:37.33 | jblack | There should be an onfensive to go with offensive. |
| 19:37.33 | Corydon76-dig | Best he can do is charge and pounce with his claws out |
| 19:37.33 | eppigy | NENIN |
| 19:37.34 | jblack | later guys. Time for me to go cause trouble. |
| 19:37.34 | Corydon76-dig | jblack: you weren't already doing that? |
| 19:37.35 | jblack | I'm not causing enough. |
| 19:37.36 | ManxPower-work | FreeSWITCH RULES! |
| 19:37.36 | Corydon76-dig | Break a leg |
| 19:37.36 | ManxPower-work | There's trouble for you |
| 19:37.37 | jblack | i was thinking about going to the retirement home and tripping grandmas. |
| 19:37.37 | jblack | That's always fun.. especially when their dentures fly across the room |
| 19:37.38 | ManxPower-work | jblack: the best thing about that is they can't run very fast. |
| 19:37.38 | jaytee | wait a minute! if we get an onfensive to go with offfensive before you know it we'll need a righttenant to go with our lefttenant although only in the UK, CA and AU |
| 19:37.38 | hardwire | bmoraca: out of curiosity.. what's wrong with the other PA system? |
| 19:37.38 | jblack | Yup. easy targets. |
| 19:38.03 | hardwire | grandma got run over by an IRC troll. |
| 19:38.03 | bmoraca | hardwire, nothing, really...they are just kind of finnicky and not very loud. and the interface is VERY clunky |
| 19:38.21 | hardwire | bmoraca: does it expect another amp to be in line? |
| 19:38.22 | bmoraca | hardwire, but they do work pretty well...i've used them at a number of installations to great effect |
| 19:38.47 | bmoraca | hardwire, no, they're supposed to be amplified themselves, and they are, but they don't work all that well especially for noisy areas |
| 19:38.56 | hardwire | bmoraca: noted. |
| 19:39.13 | bmoraca | hardwire, that said, their indoor ceiling speakers work very well |
| 19:39.25 | hardwire | sigh |
| 19:39.34 | hardwire | my boss like person is kinda wiggin me out |
| 19:39.42 | hardwire | he's about to purchase pink/white noise ceiling mount speakers |
| 19:39.50 | Naikrovek | uh |
| 19:39.55 | hardwire | and I keep pointing to how free and easy it is to generate that noise |
| 19:39.55 | bmoraca | interesting |
| 19:40.01 | hardwire | but he's not biting |
| 19:40.07 | hardwire | apparently if it's swedish.. it's better. |
| 19:40.14 | Naikrovek | ikea proved that. (!) |
| 19:40.18 | hardwire | so .. swedish pink noise > random pink noise. |
| 19:40.21 | bmoraca | well, it works for women, so why not anything else? :P |
| 19:40.25 | jaytee | tell that to Saab |
| 19:40.39 | hardwire | Naikrovek: howso? |
| 19:40.46 | hardwire | because everything is ultimately tunable. |
| 19:41.00 | Naikrovek | hardwire: isn't ikea generally considered "swedish crap" |
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| 19:41.17 | iq | Hi |
| 19:41.21 | hardwire | Naikrovek: I misunderstood |
| 19:41.26 | hardwire | iq: quiet down.. I'm bitching. |
| 19:41.30 | Naikrovek | lol |
| 19:41.38 | Naikrovek | iq: nevermind him |
| 19:41.43 | hardwire | iq: I think it's over now. |
| 19:41.43 | Naikrovek | iq: ask your question |
| 19:41.47 | iq | :) |
| 19:41.51 | hardwire | maybe he doesn't have a question! |
| 19:41.53 | hardwire | he's iq! |
| 19:41.57 | hardwire | maybe we should ask him things. |
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| 19:44.34 | securevoip | is there a good doc out there about how to use a skype client (connected to an asterisk skype channel) to make a call out to the PSTN? |
| 19:45.14 | ManxPower-work | securevoip: I doubt it. |
| 19:45.26 | bmoraca | interesting...doing a "reset now" clears out all cached realtime peers and makes them renew registration again before they're addressable |
| 19:45.27 | securevoip | have you done it? |
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| 19:45.35 | ManxPower-work | securevoip: when you purchased the Skype asterisk channel did you get documentation? |
| 19:46.07 | securevoip | minimal IIRC. I have it setup to take calls. That works great. |
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| 19:46.35 | ManxPower-work | I've never seen anyone on this channel help with Skype problems, but I'm not here ALL the time. |
| 19:47.58 | Katty | SQUIRREL |
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| 19:48.52 | Katty | the magnet is holding :> |
| 19:48.59 | Katty | HORAY! |
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| 19:49.37 | bmoraca | hrm...what's the purpose behind making file and odbc voicemail storage mutually exclusive? |
| 19:54.33 | Qwell | bmoraca: that's just how it was done. patches welcome |
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| 19:57.34 | murraytm | in the manager api, if i do an async originate action and the call is not answered, do i need to explicitly hang up the channel when i get the originateresponse? is there anything else that needs to be done at that time to free up resources? |
| 20:00.25 | Sargun | sangoma man still here? |
| 20:00.53 | ChannelZ | Hmm. I'm hooking up * from home to work via IAX2; In my home dialplan that calls my phone at work, I have a Set(CALLERID(name)="From Home") before the Dial() - but that doesn't seem to work |
| 20:01.14 | TSM | Sargun: what you broke |
| 20:01.45 | ChannelZ | securevoip: Skype For Asterisk, $66 per channel from digium |
| 20:02.10 | Corydon76-dig | bmoraca: we commit the patches that we have, not the patches that we wish we had |
| 20:02.12 | Sargun | ChannelZ, Is it finally out? |
| 20:02.20 | ChannelZ | yeah for several months |
| 20:02.38 | Sargun | TSM, Didn't break anything. I'm having issues understanding SMSC/SS7 interactions |
| 20:02.43 | ChannelZ | is reading backwards forwards, I guess securevoip already has SFA - so not sure what the question actually is |
| 20:02.51 | bmoraca | no doubt. i was just curious if it was intentionally designed that way or if they simply diverged because they were so backwards |
| 20:02.59 | TSM | Sargun: ahh ok, i dont use SS7 in the UK E1 |
| 20:03.00 | bmoraca | er |
| 20:03.02 | bmoraca | different |
| 20:03.32 | Sargun | I want to setup my own SMSC, and from what I understand, it peers with others over SS7. |
| 20:04.48 | Corydon76-dig | bmoraca: there have been efforts over time to make it selectable per-user at runtime, but none have been completed, AFAIK |
| 20:06.58 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: Asterisk's SMS support is specifically FSK modulated data over PSTN. |
| 20:07.29 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: You should only expect it to interoperate with other Asterisk boxes and European SMS Centers (SMSC) |
| 20:08.43 | murraytm | i'm having a problem where when originate has been called a number of times, asterisk stops answering incoming calls. outgoing (via originate) continues to work, though. |
| 20:08.53 | Sargun | What's the difference between european SMS centers, and american ones? |
| 20:09.01 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, I only want to receive SMS, not send it. |
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| 20:10.26 | bmoraca | when storing voicemail in ODBC, does asterisk base64 encode the messages or does it store the raw file directly in the blob? |
| 20:10.40 | Qwell | it stores the file in the blob |
| 20:11.08 | bmoraca | cool...should make it easy to pull out via web scripts then |
| 20:11.17 | Sargun | Stupid question: What's the difference between Mobile originated and mobile terminated SMS? |
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| 20:12.16 | Sargun | nevermind |
| 20:14.43 | bmoraca | when offering customers the ability to forward their phone numbers to an off-net number, what would be the best way to avoid toll fraud? require that the destination is in the same area code? |
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| 20:15.14 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: You will only be able to accept SMS from SMS Terminals and from other Asterisk boxes |
| 20:15.33 | ManxPower-work | (and an SMSC, of course) |
| 20:16.03 | Sargun | Don't all SMSs come from SMSCs? |
| 20:16.17 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: Not at all. |
| 20:16.45 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: What country are you in? |
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| 20:23.26 | bmoraca | has anyone done any testing on whether func_odbc is more efficient than AGI as far as dialplan behavior goes? |
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| 20:24.09 | Corydon76-dig | bmoraca: it's more efficient in terms of the cpu resources it uses |
| 20:24.26 | bmoraca | that's what i thought |
| 20:24.28 | Corydon76-dig | bmoraca: and memory, for that matter |
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| 20:27.59 | dwery | hello. using 1.6.2.0 it happened more than once that the SIP phone kept ringing even when the inbound call got dropped by the caller. |
| 20:28.03 | dwery | clues? |
| 20:29.26 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, USA |
| 20:29.31 | [TK]D-Fender | dwery: PASTEBIN |
| 20:30.06 | dwery | [TK]D-Fender: I'm checking if I have any log, I wasn't at home and the call happened 5 hours ago |
| 20:30.32 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: The forget about Asterisk's app_sms.so. It won't work with anything in the USA |
| 20:30.37 | ManxPower-work | (or almost anything) |
| 20:31.03 | ManxPower-work | dwery: sounds like you have analog PSTN lines |
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| 20:31.22 | dwery | ManxPower-work: nope, the inbound line is ISDN |
| 20:31.27 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, I'm looking at purchasing a solution like Sangoma's Mobile SS7 stack, netfors, or blueslice. |
| 20:31.28 | dwery | (vzaphfc driver) |
| 20:31.55 | adr3nalin3 | Could someone please give me a hand with setting up routing for a sip provider? I have two interfaces on the machine but I am unclear how to make it work correctly. Thanks |
| 20:31.57 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: Good. But don't expect to use app_sms.so with it. |
| 20:32.23 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, Do you have any recommendations for an SMSC that does mobile terminated SMS? |
| 20:32.25 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: The packets will route according to the Linux routing table. |
| 20:32.30 | dwery | [TK]D-Fender: I only have the cdr, would it be useful? |
| 20:32.39 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: I'm not aware of one in the USA |
| 20:33.00 | ManxPower-work | I'm pretty sure no SMSC sells service to the public. |
| 20:33.26 | Sargun | Well, I mean, can't I setup my own SMSC? |
| 20:33.48 | adr3nalin3 | ManxPower-work: So all I should need to do is set my default gateway to the correct setting? |
| 20:33.49 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: No reason you can't. But I doubt any provider will peer with you. |
| 20:34.03 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: That would be one way |
| 20:34.32 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, Why wouldn't they? If I buy an SS7 trunk from AT&T, wouldn't they peer with me? |
| 20:34.45 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: Do you understand what SS7 is? |
| 20:35.04 | ManxPower-work | Do you know how much AT&T would charge for an SS7 interconnect? |
| 20:35.14 | Sargun | They only charge about $800/mo |
| 20:35.33 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: That sounds like a PRI. |
| 20:35.37 | bcrisp | yummy javascript |
| 20:35.38 | Sargun | SS7 is a general protocol for exchange of telephony switching information |
| 20:36.02 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: I wish you the BEST of luck. |
| 20:36.12 | *** join/#asterisk darkdrgn2k3 (n=darkdrgn@bas2-toronto44-1242514501.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:36.16 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, hehe. It seems like it's impossible to find any information on this topic. |
| 20:36.22 | Katty | GAH |
| 20:36.25 | Katty | they knocked the tray down |
| 20:36.42 | bcrisp | Katty: rocksalt |
| 20:36.43 | jaytee | GAH! Fu GAH GAH |
| 20:36.52 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, Why so pessimistic? |
| 20:36.54 | darkdrgn2k3 | guys, whats the best way to connect a "remote" asterisk server to the main one, that be through sip right? |
| 20:37.01 | Sargun | darkdrgn2k3, IAX2. |
| 20:37.05 | bcrisp | IAX2 |
| 20:37.18 | darkdrgn2k3 | even if its just one connection? |
| 20:37.22 | ManxPower-work | darkdrgn2k3: In my opinion the "best" was would be a point-to-point T-1. |
| 20:37.34 | bcrisp | heh |
| 20:37.43 | darkdrgn2k3 | ManxPower-work: i got a gige network so :-P |
| 20:38.00 | darkdrgn2k3 | but seriously.. IAX2? |
| 20:38.07 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: In the past 8 years I've seen many people come here trying to do SMS in the USA. I don't think even one of them ever succeeded. |
| 20:38.08 | darkdrgn2k3 | or SIP |
| 20:38.36 | Sargun | darkdrgn2k3, IAX2. |
| 20:38.45 | adr3nalin3 | ManxPower-work: I can get into the * box via the outside interface but I can't get in via the internal interface...so my phones can't register |
| 20:38.49 | darkdrgn2k3 | ok dam i never configures an IAX2 connection :-P |
| 20:39.03 | *** join/#asterisk grandpapadot (n=nonya@99-175-248-81.lightspeed.brhmal.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:39.05 | ManxPower-work | darkdrgn2k3: I never use IAX2 to connect servers. |
| 20:39.19 | grandpapadot | Hey guys, anyone running asterisk 1.6 on debian 5 64-bit? Any issues? |
| 20:39.20 | darkdrgn2k3 | ManxPower-work: you use SIP? |
| 20:39.22 | adr3nalin3 | ManxPower-work: Is there a place in the book that describes how to do this? |
| 20:39.29 | ManxPower-work | darkdrgn2k3: Yes. |
| 20:39.46 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: sounds like you have a NAT issue. |
| 20:39.49 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, But, hypothetically, all it would be a matter of doing is setting up an SMSC (HLR, and all), and getting a peering with AT&T. |
| 20:39.50 | *** join/#asterisk wam (i=wam@unaffiliated/wam) |
| 20:39.52 | bcrisp | grandpapadot, no probs with 1.6 on centos 5 64-bit.. havent tried debian |
| 20:40.06 | darkdrgn2k3 | ManxPower-work: ok how do you do this? Configure and Extension on "SOURCE" and add a "trunK" on the server |
| 20:40.07 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: you didn't do something stupid like use bindaddr (or is it bindip) are you? |
| 20:40.29 | adr3nalin3 | No I don't even know what that is |
| 20:40.42 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: in sip.conf [general] section. |
| 20:40.51 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: Are you using a GUI? |
| 20:40.57 | adr3nalin3 | Not anymore! |
| 20:41.06 | ManxPower-work | Was there ever a GUI setup on the system? |
| 20:41.11 | adr3nalin3 | switching from DAHDI to SIP trunking |
| 20:41.15 | adr3nalin3 | yes there was |
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| 20:41.44 | ManxPower-work | So all your config files are the screwed up way too complicated spagetti dialplan that came with the GUI? |
| 20:42.10 | adr3nalin3 | No I replaced all of them |
| 20:42.12 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: read sip.conf.sample. Check /etc/asterisk/sip.conf for any bindaddr options. |
| 20:42.35 | ManxPower-work | also make SURE your iptables is not trying to NAT the stuff going to the internal interface. |
| 20:42.54 | adr3nalin3 | My bindaddr was set to 0.0.0.0 so that was messed up |
| 20:43.01 | adr3nalin3 | ok |
| 20:43.15 | ManxPower-work | that should not cause a problem, but I'd still comment it out, as well as any bindport option. |
| 20:43.24 | bmoraca | i've never understood why anyone would want to run asterisk on their NAT router. it's just a terrible idea, imo. |
| 20:43.37 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: can you ping the IP of the internal phones from the server? |
| 20:43.41 | adr3nalin3 | no |
| 20:43.57 | adr3nalin3 | oh wait.. I read that wrong let me try |
| 20:43.57 | ManxPower-work | bmoraca: lazyness. |
| 20:44.31 | adr3nalin3 | btw, I have asterisk connected directly to the external router |
| 20:44.58 | bmoraca | why on earth do you have two interfaces on it, then? |
| 20:45.32 | ManxPower-work | bmoraca: I suspect it's connected to the DSL modem, not a router. |
| 20:46.20 | adr3nalin3 | It is connected to a Metro E router. I have two interfaces one to serve the phones internally and one to connect to a sip provider |
| 20:46.25 | bmoraca | ManxPower-work, my question still stands. get a router to be a router and have your asterisk box be a phone system. it's not worth the headache trying to get both working on one box. |
| 20:46.35 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, Do I actually need to peer with ATT mobile, or will getting an SS7 trunk work just as well? |
| 20:46.46 | bmoraca | adr3nalin3, why do you need a separate interface to connect to your sip provider? |
| 20:46.52 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:42]<adr3nalin3>My bindaddr was set to 0.0.0.0 so that was messed up <- thats what it should be |
| 20:47.06 | adr3nalin3 | ok thanks [TK]D-Fender |
| 20:47.19 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: I don't know. I just know everyone I know of gave up. |
| 20:47.37 | ManxPower-work | bmoraca: Oh, I agree with you. |
| 20:47.58 | adr3nalin3 | bmoraca: Because I think I need an externally exposed interface for SIP trunking |
| 20:48.05 | bmoraca | adr3nalin3, you do not. |
| 20:48.15 | ManxPower-work | adr3nalin3: NO YOU DO NOT. What nutcase told you that? |
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| 20:48.42 | adr3nalin3 | my own screwed up head.... |
| 20:48.46 | *** part/#asterisk ehsjoar (n=ehsjoar@c-98-245-155-132.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 20:48.46 | p3nguin | externally exposed... via port forwarding. |
| 20:49.30 | bmoraca | p3nguin, you don't even need that for sip trunking |
| 20:49.40 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, you realize that most people come here not thinking that they'll spend $1000/mo? |
| 20:49.41 | bmoraca | or, rather, to connect to someone else's sip trunk |
| 20:50.04 | ManxPower-work | ~siptrunk |
| 20:50.05 | infobot | methinks siptrunk is something that doesn't exist -- there is no concept of a SIP trunk in Asterisk. You may be searching for iaxtrunk |
| 20:50.09 | p3nguin | "trunking," as you call it, needs to go both ways. |
| 20:50.23 | p3nguin | So you need to have an inbound path as well as an outbound path. |
| 20:51.17 | adr3nalin3 | ok |
| 20:52.13 | bmoraca | p3nguin, if you register with your provider, you do NOT need to have the ports mapped inbound. likewise, if you have a local phone connecting through a NAT to an external SIP proxy, you also do not need ports forwarded to that phone. |
| 20:52.52 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, Do you do SMS? |
| 20:53.08 | ManxPower-work | You only need to forward ports if Asterisk is behind NAT and remote phones need to connect to that server. |
| 20:53.24 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: Your question makes no sense. |
| 20:53.34 | *** join/#asterisk fakhir (n=fakhir@unaffiliated/fakhir) |
| 20:53.42 | Sargun | heh, does your employer send/receive SMS? |
| 20:53.55 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: Not directly. We are in the USA. |
| 20:54.03 | p3nguin | Remote phones, such as an ITSP trying to deliver a call... |
| 20:54.09 | ManxPower-work | p3nguin: no! |
| 20:54.16 | p3nguin | Yes, actually. |
| 20:54.19 | ManxPower-work | remote phones as in remote phones. |
| 20:54.21 | Sargun | ManxPower-work, how do you do it then? |
| 20:54.31 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: I don't send SMS messages. |
| 20:54.33 | p3nguin | If I don't have an available port open, my ITSP can't connect a SIP call to me. |
| 20:54.46 | Sargun | Do you receive them? |
| 20:54.50 | ManxPower-work | And if I did I'd use one of the several dozen providers that do SMS via web. |
| 20:55.09 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: There is no SMS messages transported to or from the company I work for. |
| 20:55.39 | mmlj4 | hey ManxPower-work |
| 20:55.39 | Sargun | Ah, I didn't quite understand what you meant about not directly |
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| 20:55.55 | ManxPower-work | p3nguin: that's because you are letting the UDP port translations timeout. |
| 20:56.01 | p3nguin | no |
| 20:56.09 | p3nguin | THere are no UDP translations. |
| 20:56.15 | ManxPower-work | p3nguin: I wish you the BEST of luck. |
| 20:56.22 | p3nguin | likewise |
| 20:56.34 | ManxPower-work | Hello, mmlj4 |
| 20:57.11 | p3nguin | manxpower-work: You're under the impression that I am connecting to the ISP. That's where you made the mistake. |
| 20:57.21 | darkdrgn2k3 | ManxPower-work: how do you connect the two servers togeter? How do you setup registration? |
| 20:57.24 | p3nguin | THe ITSP, that is. |
| 20:57.28 | ManxPower-work | Sargun: I mean people where I work send and receive text messages using their phones. i |
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| 20:57.38 | [TK]D-Fender | darkdrgn2k3: Same as you would for any phone / ITSP |
| 20:58.00 | Micc | Can meetme work with g722? So all g722 callers hear a higher quality conference? |
| 20:58.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: No. |
| 20:58.31 | [TK]D-Fender | Micc: Everything gets transcoded to slin and back |
| 20:58.48 | ManxPower-work | But I want High-Def hold music when some idiot in the conference puts the call on hold! |
| 20:58.50 | darkdrgn2k3 | [TK]D-Fender: but theres no sip extensions on both end. Just on one. |
| 20:59.22 | [TK]D-Fender | darkdrgn2k3: Answer isn't changing... |
| 20:59.39 | Kobaz | meetme should auto-mute people who go on hold when they are in a conference |
| 20:59.52 | Kobaz | or just automatically send them an electric shock |
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| 21:00.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: the Meetme channel doesn |
| 21:00.15 | [TK]D-Fender | t know about anything else |
| 21:00.26 | Kobaz | yeah i know |
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| 21:00.37 | ManxPower-work | It should be possible to code for directly connected callers into the conference. |
| 21:00.41 | Kobaz | meetme should ship with a little gnome, that waits for people's music on hold to kick in |
| 21:00.58 | Kobaz | and then runs over and kicks the caller in the nuts |
| 21:01.35 | darkdrgn2k3 | ok im trying to create a FXO on a remote device. I have configured the CHAN and got it ringing on an extesnion on the DEVICE |
| 21:01.36 | Kobaz | "if your gnome arrived dead, please call the digium support hotline" |
| 21:01.47 | darkdrgn2k3 | the DEVICE is behind a Firewall, the server that wishes to use it is not |
| 21:02.17 | Av | hi folks :) I'm thinking about rolling out asterisk, have a couple of Q's I hope someone can help with. I'm setting it up for a virtual office, and will probably route in/out calls over a VOIP provider. is there some kind of "easy to setup" asterisk package? |
| 21:02.19 | darkdrgn2k3 | i need to register from the DEVICE to the server right? |
| 21:02.26 | Av | the configuration always seemed a bit daunting to me :) |
| 21:03.17 | darkdrgn2k3 | (since the SERVER's host is "dynamic") |
| 21:03.39 | Qwell | ~book |
| 21:03.40 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 21:03.42 | Qwell | Av: start there |
| 21:03.50 | Katty | oh em gee. hungry AGAIN |
| 21:03.51 | Av | thaks :D |
| 21:03.53 | Katty | conspiracy. CONSPIRACY |
| 21:04.10 | ariel_ | Av: look at freepbx, asteriskNOW or Elastix. There gui based, If not read the book and setup your system. |
| 21:04.56 | ariel_ | Hummm hungry, I have a Mango Yogurt |
| 21:05.13 | Av | ariel_: for now, gui based works for me. I'm sure I'll want to do more power things later, i mostly need a really fast start up. thank you :) |
| 21:05.35 | darkdrgn2k3 | [TK]D-Fender: hjow can i register the device on the server if the server does not have a sip account for the device |
| 21:05.38 | darkdrgn2k3 | (user:password@hostname.domain.ext) |
| 21:06.10 | [TK]D-Fender | darkdrgn2k3: #$*&ING ADD ONE :p |
| 21:06.22 | p3nguin | av: If you don't have time to do it without a GUI now, how will you have time later to fix all the shit that the GUI craps up? |
| 21:06.38 | darkdrgn2k3 | [TK]D-Fender: well.. that woudl solve the problem wouldnt it :-P |
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| 21:06.56 | darkdrgn2k3 | [TK]D-Fender: asside from registering, do i need to use the sip for anythign else? |
| 21:07.53 | [TK]D-Fender | darkdrgn2k3: "use the sip"? WTF. I told you. Same shit as setting up a phone and an ITSP |
| 21:08.13 | Av | p3nguin: i can learn to fix small problems as they come up. But learning the innards of an entire system at the onset is a lot more work. It's also easier to justify spending time on an existing system which is broken, vs a system which doesn't exist yet :) |
| 21:08.42 | [TK]D-Fender | darkdrgn2k3: One side reg's to other just like an ITSP. The other side has a matching accoutn set up like you would a phone. Set up dialplan to pass calls between. the end |
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| 21:08.56 | darkdrgn2k3 | [TK]D-Fender: undersood.. thanx |
| 21:08.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Av: Well what "broken system" are you using now? |
| 21:11.07 | Katty | eppigy: I"M IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE |
| 21:11.13 | Katty | eppigy: SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU"RE NEAR ME |
| 21:11.29 | Qwell | Katty: I see how it is |
| 21:11.55 | Katty | orly |
| 21:13.11 | Naikrovek | caps lock key is for that kind of thing, Katty :) |
| 21:13.16 | Naikrovek | avoid the " |
| 21:13.23 | Qwell | shift > capslock |
| 21:14.15 | Naikrovek | QWELL: CALL ME #)(#!(%^% TO DISCUSS |
| 21:14.28 | Naikrovek | caps lock could have prevented that tragedy |
| 21:14.44 | Qwell | submits the number to telemarketers |
| 21:14.58 | Av | [TK]D-Fender: Skype :( |
| 21:15.02 | Naikrovek | not a real number, go for it |
| 21:15.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Av: Well you seem "justified" in its use. Have fun. |
| 21:16.52 | Av | [TK]D-Fender: I like hte idea of running things under my control. Skype also doesn't make it easy to manage accounts and costs. Unfortunately the thing it does well is bind text, voice and video. So now I have to split those up. |
| 21:17.25 | Katty | i like my shift, thankyouverymuch |
| 21:17.32 | Naikrovek | k |
| 21:17.35 | Naikrovek | just sayin |
| 21:17.54 | Katty | mister squirrel's just sayin too |
| 21:18.08 | Katty | ^- om nomnomnomnomnom |
| 21:18.53 | Katty | he has such a fat little tummy |
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| 21:25.42 | voipnet-tech | good afternoon all, looking for help with why asterisk isn't hanging up sip channels, they just seem to linger indefinetely. i'm using 1.6.1.11. When I place a call I see normal SIP progress. When I hangup my VoIPphone, I see a BYE message from the phone, and Asterisk 200 OK's the BYE from the phone, but never sends a BYE to my SIP trunk provider telling them to hangup the call so the call stays up |
| 21:25.59 | TSM | has anyone used the skype driver? |
| 21:26.22 | TSM | how do i map incomming calls to extentions etc and make outgoing calls to the driver |
| 21:27.45 | dwery | TSM: you'll fine examples in the driver's archive |
| 21:27.48 | dwery | find* |
| 21:29.52 | *** part/#asterisk ManxPower-work (n=EWieling@24.42.221.26) |
| 21:30.01 | voipnet-tech | further note: I'm wondering if this hangup problem is in someway caused by how I have my servers deployed. Server 1 is NFS and MySQL, Server 2 is Asterisk, Server 3 is HTTPD/TFTPD |
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| 21:35.09 | jblack | I finally found printing at less than a penny a page. |
| 21:35.25 | jblack | In case anyone was interested in the results of the searching I was doing |
| 21:35.44 | *** join/#asterisk florz (i=nobody@2001:1a50:503c:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 21:36.05 | jblack | Huh? Does everyone hate printing? |
| 21:37.03 | Katty | i just don't really have a use for printing. |
| 21:37.29 | jblack | I'm referring to all the quits. :) |
| 21:38.46 | ChannelZ | Paper haters |
| 21:38.47 | jblack | There's a brother printer that works with linux for $200 that prints for about .00375 per page. |
| 21:39.33 | Katty | jblack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmM_dWjiIxE |
| 21:40.01 | jblack | ??? |
| 21:40.21 | Katty | i thought it was pretty. |
| 21:40.30 | jblack | sometimes I wonder about you. |
| 21:40.45 | jblack | Yes. It's very pretty. =) |
| 21:41.31 | *** join/#asterisk nighty^ (n=nighty@tin51-1-82-226-147-104.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:41.41 | jblack | Ohhhh I get it. |
| 21:42.06 | jblack | You're fattening & taming the squirrels so that you can catch 'em and cook 'em on a fire? |
| 21:42.43 | ChannelZ | it'd be cheaper to order them online |
| 21:43.02 | jblack | Yeah. There's easier ways to get squirrel meat. |
| 21:43.37 | ChannelZ | I wonder how much it would cost to electrify my roof |
| 21:44.30 | jblack | THe parts would be painful to buy but the recurring costs would be reasonable. |
| 21:44.50 | jblack | as long as you don't have any nearby trees that are likely to drop leaves on the roof... |
| 21:45.11 | Katty | jblack: i find that listening to familiar sounds during the winter actually improves my mood |
| 21:46.08 | jblack | Katty: It comforts you? |
| 21:46.32 | jblack | is trying very hard to avoid a sarcastic joke right about now |
| 21:46.44 | Katty | the sound of campfire tricks my brain into thinking i'm warm. |
| 21:47.10 | raden_work | Katty, get some 5600 - 6400 kelvin temp lamps :) |
| 21:47.18 | Katty | they don't work |
| 21:47.32 | raden_work | or better yet red light therapy lamps :) |
| 21:47.33 | Katty | none of the lighting really works |
| 21:47.37 | Katty | vitamin d doesn't really help a lot either |
| 21:47.59 | raden_work | vitamin d wont work without light |
| 21:48.00 | *** part/#asterisk dwery (n=dwery@nslu2-linux/dwery) |
| 21:48.13 | raden_work | supplements are worthless only 13% is used by your body |
| 21:48.17 | jblack | Tell your S.O. that you're cold and you expect them to warm you up immediately. |
| 21:48.46 | ChannelZ | Deep fry something |
| 21:48.52 | Katty | frowns |
| 21:49.03 | jblack | I'm trying to be nice |
| 21:49.06 | Katty | goes back to the bird chirping video |
| 21:49.10 | voipnet-tech | is there a setting asterisk needs to be told to send BYE's when calls are hungup? |
| 21:49.46 | jblack | Maybe a warm bath would cheer you up. |
| 21:49.59 | jblack | As for me, I feed old people. |
| 21:53.33 | ChannelZ | do they catch on fire or something? |
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| 22:01.17 | jblack | ChannelZ: As in spontaneously combust? |
| 22:10.51 | *** join/#asterisk smooth_penguin (n=smoove@59.95.19.171) |
| 22:12.16 | ChannelZ | sorry I thought we were still talking about getting warm |
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| 22:20.52 | ChannelZ | Did you ever decide on a logo? |
| 22:22.41 | jblack | Yeah, I made one based on your original design. |
| 22:22.53 | jblack | http://mow.merconline.com/ |
| 22:23.09 | jblack | I'm not quite happy with it. I'm thinking about working on it a little more |
| 22:24.51 | voipnet-tech | No such command 'stop now' (type 'help stop now' for other possible commands) why??? |
| 22:24.56 | voipnet-tech | bangs head on desk |
| 22:26.35 | TSM | service asterisk stop |
| 22:27.08 | ChannelZ | Is this 1.6.2 or something? |
| 22:27.27 | russellb | voipnet-tech: core stop now |
| 22:27.45 | russellb | and if this is 1.6.2, install the cli_aliases.conf file |
| 22:28.07 | voipnet-tech | 1.6.1.11 |
| 22:28.14 | voipnet-tech | core stop now not found either |
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| 22:29.04 | ChannelZ | I'm running 1.6.1.11 and stop now works |
| 22:29.12 | ChannelZ | or stop gracefully |
| 22:29.21 | joobie | hey guys.. i have a bunch of voicemail mailboxes that i want to rename.. however trying not to lose any content that is stored within the mailboxes. Is there a straight forward way to do this? |
| 22:33.07 | voipnet-tech | there's a cli.conf but no cli_aliases.conf, it really appears my asterisk is really screwing up... 1) chan_sip is not loading automatically, i have to console in and do module load chan_sip... 2) some of the core commends are missing... 3) it's not hanging up any channels on sip, they just hang on indefinetely until both sides hangup |
| 22:33.46 | voipnet-tech | also the reload command sometime returns that the previous reload has not yet completed |
| 22:33.57 | ChannelZ | YOU SYSTEM IS SCREW! |
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| 22:35.40 | voipnet-tech | wipe and reload time i guess... i was trying to work this out as a virtualized multiserver system where asterisk is pretty much on it's own server, apache/amp is on it's own server, and they share files via a 3rd server that does nothing except NFS and MySQL |
| 22:35.56 | voipnet-tech | it seems like maybe some kind of NFS locking problem or something |
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| 22:36.40 | voipnet-tech | everything else is working great, except that calls don't hang up... |
| 22:37.04 | voipnet-tech | dunno if there's anything filesystem related that might cause asterisk not to pass along the BYE message when one side hangs up |
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| 22:43.36 | bakermd | Is there a way for me to trigger an event, i.e. execution of a script or insertion of a DB record, when the Asterisk Manager Event Agentlogin or Agentlogoff happens? |
| 22:45.12 | citywok | in your dialplan use System() |
| 22:45.27 | citywok | before or after you execute agentlogin |
| 22:46.23 | bakermd | citywok: aah... thank |
| 22:46.26 | bakermd | er, Thanks |
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| 23:50.10 | sbrath | Is it possible to change the Name that is sent to a phone, to include the queue that the call is coming in from. |
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| 23:51.19 | bcrisp | Set(CALLERID(name)=bla) |
| 23:51.41 | sbrath | But dosen't that change the CID that is going outbound? |
| 23:51.53 | bcrisp | well... |
| 23:51.53 | Chainsaw | sbrath: No, that's the same way I use. |
| 23:51.59 | sbrath | ok |
| 23:52.06 | bcrisp | sbrath, you can also you the announce setting in queues.conf |
| 23:52.09 | Chainsaw | sbrath: And I get a nice "-> PBO MAIN" or "-> PBO 715" |
| 23:52.13 | bcrisp | (you can announce something to the agent that answers) |
| 23:52.17 | sbrath | :) |
| 23:52.40 | bcrisp | ours announces the name of the queue prior to bridging the call from a queue to agent |
| 23:53.12 | sbrath | Moving from a old PBX where they have 16 lines, to a Voip with 3-6 lines on a phone I think will be a hurdle for the users to understand that the same line on the phone can take calls from any queue.. |
| 23:53.31 | Chainsaw | bcrisp: Ah, Xerox-style with "whisper"? |
| 23:53.32 | sbrath | bcrisp: does it anounce it on the display? |
| 23:53.42 | Chainsaw | bcrisp: *beep* "queue name" *call* |
| 23:53.46 | bcrisp | sbrath: it announces it in the call |
| 23:54.02 | bcrisp | i.e. it plays a sound file that says "Call from sales queue bla" |
| 23:54.06 | sbrath | but the announce setting will get it on the display. |
| 23:54.25 | bcrisp | ? |
| 23:54.41 | sbrath | For a inbound call center, is group calling, and queues enough, or do I really need Bridged call apperances? |
| 23:54.56 | bcrisp | um |
| 23:54.58 | citywok | sbrath: i use queues only |
| 23:55.04 | Chainsaw | sbrath: That's a question you should be answering. |
| 23:55.06 | citywok | but i suppose it depends on what you need |
| 23:55.07 | bcrisp | it depends on your needs |
| 23:55.11 | Chainsaw | sbrath: Whose call centre is it? Not mine... |
| 23:55.25 | citywok | sbrath: i need a new car, do i need a 4 door, 2 door, truck, suv? |
| 23:55.54 | sbrath | I think that just routing the calls to the phone, and anouncing it seems adequate. |
| 23:56.05 | sbrath | any experience with yealink handsets? |
| 23:56.38 | citywok | currently i'm having good luck with the microsoft Lifechat LX3000 |
| 23:56.43 | sbrath | or Zycoo.. |
| 23:56.49 | citywok | the only complains are from people with small heads |
| 23:57.07 | citywok | the plantronics and logitech pc headsets have not gone over well around here |
| 23:57.32 | sbrath | I guess I meant yealink phones :) |
| 23:57.45 | citywok | oh, handset not headset. i'm blind |
| 23:57.50 | citywok | Aastra ftw |
| 23:58.05 | citywok | yealink and zycoo sound like toys |
| 23:59.25 | sbrath | the aastra looks nice |