| 00:01.02 | ChannelZ | aRdoR: you only show your box doing an OPTIONS, but not the actual REGSITER |
| 00:01.07 | ChannelZ | err REGISTER |
| 00:01.20 | Skeeter- | voipmonk, within the dialplan, can asterisk see if u hold a key for X seconds |
| 00:01.35 | voipmonk | hold or press doesnt matter |
| 00:02.02 | Skeeter- | asterisk cant see it then |
| 00:03.03 | *** join/#asterisk jks (jks@193.189.93.254) |
| 00:04.37 | voipmonk | editting the registry now... |
| 00:04.45 | voipmonk | made some whoopsies :) |
| 00:11.48 | Katty | there seems to be these girafee theme |
| 00:14.48 | Katty | this vicks warm mist humidifier seems pretty awesome. i might get one for me! |
| 00:15.48 | Katty | voipmonk: oh come on, you don't need a digital monitor |
| 00:15.54 | voipmonk | :) |
| 00:15.56 | Katty | voipmonk: just put a polycom in there on auto answer :P |
| 00:16.03 | voipmonk | that was a last minute - beep! |
| 00:16.05 | voipmonk | :) |
| 00:16.21 | Katty | i'm suprised you're not going to put the crib in the same room as mom |
| 00:16.26 | voipmonk | one of those .."what the hell..." "BEEP!" |
| 00:16.48 | voipmonk | oh the hd cam will be over ethernet so I can see from work |
| 00:16.55 | Katty | lol |
| 00:17.04 | Katty | you gonna put it on ustream.tv like mine? |
| 00:17.08 | voipmonk | gonna remove it |
| 00:17.21 | voipmonk | removing it... |
| 00:17.58 | Katty | hmm. |
| 00:18.05 | Katty | flash media encoder lets you stream to a server |
| 19:31.45 | *** join/#asterisk infobot (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 19:31.45 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk: The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 1.6.2.1 (2010/01/15), Asterisk 1.6.1.13 (2010/01/15), 1.6.0.21 (2010/01/15), 1.4.29 (2010/01/15), *-Addons 1.6.2.0 (2009/12/18), 1.6.1.2 (2009/12/02), 1.6.0.4 (2009/12/02), 1.4.10 (2009/12/02), dahdi-linux 2.2.1 (2010/01/20), dahdi-tools 2.2.1 (2010/01/20), Libpri 1.4.10.2 (2009/10/20) -=- Related channels |
| 19:33.07 | Kobaz | p3nguin: so then the agent would never be marked unavailable? |
| 19:33.27 | p3nguin | I have no idea about how that would be achieved. |
| 19:34.05 | Kobaz | mmm |
| 19:34.12 | p3nguin | As far as I know, if the agent is logged in, calls from teh queue will go to his phone. |
| 19:34.21 | Kobaz | yeap |
| 19:34.44 | p3nguin | Unless you set ringinuse=no... and then his phone will be bypassed when he is in use. |
| 19:35.05 | p3nguin | So if you want to be unavailble, log out the agent. |
| 19:35.22 | Kobaz | i'll have to write some custom stuff them |
| 19:35.23 | Kobaz | then |
| 19:36.42 | Kobaz | the documentation says after timeout, the agent will be marked unavailable |
| 19:36.45 | Kobaz | but then there's retry |
| 19:37.10 | Kobaz | the fact that there is a retry option, makes the function of marking unavailable unworkable |
| 19:37.17 | Kobaz | unless you set retry to zero? |
| 19:37.29 | Kobaz | and they will actually be marked unavailable without a retry? |
| 19:37.56 | *** join/#asterisk Tech_Travis (~Travis@mail.techglia.com) |
| 19:38.01 | p3nguin | Maybe leave out the retry setting completely. |
| 19:38.30 | *** join/#asterisk talntid (~eric@66-208-251-162-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 19:39.09 | p3nguin | Set your timeout to the amount of time you want a phone to ring before going unavailable, don't retry, and maybe use a strategy that doesn't ring all phones at once. |
| 19:39.24 | p3nguin | Maybe that could work for you. |
| 19:40.22 | talntid | holy crap. :P |
| 19:40.29 | talntid | i went to sleep last night, p3nguin was in here helping |
| 19:40.33 | Kobaz | haha |
| 19:40.39 | talntid | I come here after waking up and doing some stuff, he's still here. |
| 19:40.56 | p3nguin | When I have nothing else to do, I pay attention to IRC more. |
| 19:40.58 | carrar | he's carrazy |
| 19:42.41 | *** join/#asterisk Khratos (~42803571@gateway/web/freenode/x-rykskhsbvubktjdz) |
| 19:50.11 | *** join/#asterisk goldenear (~goldenear@2a01:e35:2e58:8df0:21c:b3ff:fec6:943a) |
| 19:51.33 | goldenear | I'm sorry, this may have been discussed many times, but I've got a problem with asterisk and RFC 3581 |
| 19:51.55 | *** join/#asterisk nny (~scott@64.203.239.83) |
| 19:52.07 | nny | anyone have a fav corded headset? |
| 19:52.19 | carrar | plantronics |
| 19:52.41 | nny | yeah just gonna pick one of each type heh, too many choices imho |
| 19:53.38 | p3nguin | nny: Do you want monaural or binaural? |
| 19:53.48 | nny | going to recommend one of each |
| 19:53.55 | p3nguin | nny: Do you want voice tube or noise cancelling microphone? |
| 19:53.59 | carrar | binaural is nice if you can wear headphones |
| 19:54.14 | nny | i am looking at http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/office/corded-office-headsets/encore-h101n for binaural |
| 19:54.44 | bmoraca_work | hmmm... |
| 19:54.48 | p3nguin | H251/H261 for voice tube, H251N/H261N for noise canceling. |
| 19:55.01 | nny | k i'll check em out thanks |
| 19:55.10 | bmoraca_work | might be taking a job that won't be using Asterisk...i'll be sad :( |
| 19:55.56 | carrar | Insalling a 1980 Mitel system? |
| 19:56.13 | bmoraca_work | nope...different company, network engineering position |
| 19:56.16 | nny | p3nguin: which is preferred NC or tube? |
| 19:56.28 | carrar | network eng is fun |
| 19:56.30 | carrar | I do that too |
| 19:56.32 | p3nguin | nny: Depends if you want noice cancellation or not. |
| 19:56.49 | nny | p3nguin: i assume so, is there a situation where it would be not wanted? |
| 19:56.49 | bmoraca_work | carrar: so do i...but i'm starting to get sick of consulting and the company i currently work for |
| 19:56.55 | carrar | heh |
| 19:57.02 | p3nguin | nny: Only in places where you don't need it. |
| 19:57.10 | carrar | though I was up all last night re-iping the core interfaces and loopbacks |
| 19:57.11 | nny | k thanks |
| 19:57.26 | carrar | expaning is good |
| 19:57.29 | carrar | expanding |
| 19:57.46 | bmoraca_work | yes it is |
| 19:57.47 | p3nguin | nny: The noise canceling model is slightly more expensive, so that's why you make a choice if you need noise cancellation microphones. |
| 19:58.23 | bmoraca_work | carrar: biggest problem is the culture around here...it's changed drastically since I started |
| 19:58.39 | carrar | welcome to corp america |
| 19:58.48 | bmoraca_work | carrar: used to be very customer-centric, and now it's "how much can we nickle-and-dime our customers?" |
| 19:58.48 | carrar | I left corp america |
| 19:59.04 | nny | p3nguin: yeah that makes sense, thanks for the advice! |
| 19:59.23 | carrar | working from is the best |
| 19:59.59 | bmoraca_work | also, we stopped being efficient. like to the point where mgmt will take a $45000 inventory adjustment versus forcing the employees to do a proper job and paying a couple 1000 more for a proper inventory manager |
| 20:00.33 | carrar | heh |
| 20:00.39 | carrar | What did you get? |
| 20:00.40 | carrar | :) |
| 20:00.41 | bmoraca_work | i'm not even sure why we have a $45000 inventory when 90% of any parts we need are next day from our vendor (standard free shipping) |
| 20:01.31 | bmoraca_work | bah, i'm venting now. oh well. |
| 20:01.44 | carrar | Let it out, we're here for you |
| 20:01.49 | carrar | Katty will bake you some cookies |
| 20:02.16 | Kobaz | p3nguin: looks like you can't have indefinite queue callers if you have timeout set in the config |
| 20:02.22 | carrar | Or at least share the nutes she feeds her wild animals |
| 20:02.48 | bmoraca_work | meh, it's lunch time and i've got some sweet and sour shrimp...that'll keep me going today, i think |
| 20:03.05 | p3nguin | kobaz: Like if timeout=120, you can't have 10 callers waiting in the queue? |
| 20:03.38 | Kobaz | p3nguin: well, i have Queue(foo) |
| 20:03.41 | Kobaz | timeout=15 |
| 20:03.52 | Kobaz | agents get marked as paused after 15 seconds |
| 20:04.05 | Kobaz | and then after 30 seconds, the caller gets booted from the queue |
| 20:04.05 | p3nguin | How many agents, and what is your ring strategy? |
| 20:04.08 | Kobaz | ringall |
| 20:04.16 | QubeZ | using the qualify=yes to keep that port open is insecure is that not correct? just generally curious about this. |
| 20:04.24 | Kobaz | two agents |
| 20:04.47 | p3nguin | You have maxlen = 0? |
| 20:04.50 | QubeZ | for each of my phones behind NAT, keeping the port open allows it to stay registered but does keeping that port open (since its UDP) allow potential people from hacking into the network over that port? |
| 20:05.26 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 20:05.56 | *** join/#asterisk moos3 (~rgenthner@216.52.121.66) |
| 20:06.02 | rubberneck | QubeZ: What is your NAT device? |
| 20:06.05 | Kobaz | so i tried Queue with a timeout of 1000000 |
| 20:06.12 | QubeZ | rubberneck polycome phone |
| 20:06.13 | Kobaz | it still hangs up |
| 20:06.18 | QubeZ | *polycom |
| 20:06.20 | Kobaz | i'll need to write custom queue stuff |
| 20:06.24 | moos3 | is there a way to check if some one enters a invalid extension, and dump them to the company directory? |
| 20:06.45 | p3nguin | kobaz: What about joinempty and leavewhenempty? |
| 20:06.46 | rubberneck | QubeZ: Not the phone, what is the device that is NATing the traffic? |
| 20:06.55 | QubeZ | rubberneck Embarq DSL router |
| 20:07.14 | p3nguin | kobaz: Also, are you Answer()ing the call before sending it to Queue()? |
| 20:07.41 | rubberneck | QubeZ: I see, if you are really concerned about security you should get a real firewall. |
| 20:07.47 | p3nguin | If your timeout is high and you are still losing callers after 30 seconds, that sounds like you failed to Answer() the call. |
| 20:08.41 | QubeZ | rubberneck i understand that but this is not our device, its a remote site that needs to have phones to tie into our network. Just trying to figure out a way to do this without having each site purchase extra hardware. So security is an issue in this case correct? The port will stay open and be open for any communication from the outside? |
| 20:09.19 | rubberneck | QubeZ: That really depends on the device and how it NAT traffic. |
| 20:09.39 | p3nguin | qubez: You normally do not forward ports on the client networks. |
| 20:09.53 | QubeZ | rubberneck how do i find such things out? |
| 20:10.12 | *** join/#asterisk gettymo (~ibm@206.173.193.34.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 20:10.43 | QubeZ | p3nguin im not forwarding anything, correct, this is a dynamically opened port that im keeping open with qualify=yes, or should I just have my cilent continue to re-register every 10 mins? |
| 20:10.51 | rubberneck | QubeZ: Well there are a hand full of different ways devices NAT traffic. I hate to say this but google NAT and read about it. Thats really the best advice I can give. |
| 20:10.54 | *** join/#asterisk ktwilight (~keliew@24.0-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 20:11.10 | QubeZ | rubberneck ok, thanks. |
| 20:11.30 | gettymo | i see a sip connection I want to terminate manually -- it's listed when I do sip show channels |
| 20:11.43 | gettymo | hmm i don't see anything obvious when i list out commands with help |
| 20:11.58 | rubberneck | QubeZ: If you really want to find out I would NMAP your extenal IP address while your system is running from a machine somewhere out on the net and see what it comes up wiht. |
| 20:12.01 | p3nguin | gettymo: Do you have the "soft hangup" command? |
| 20:12.11 | gettymo | i wish there were something like sip terminate SIP/4566 |
| 20:12.34 | carrar | like soft hangup SIP/4566-XXXXX |
| 20:12.36 | moos3 | anyone know how to move invalid extensions to a sub menu? |
| 20:13.28 | carrar | vi is your friend |
| 20:15.28 | bmoraca_work | QubeZ: you shouldn't have to do anything to get endpoints behind a NAT to connect to Asterisk when asterisk is set up to static NAT to a public IP address |
| 20:15.37 | bmoraca_work | QubeZ: take a look at the following: |
| 20:15.41 | bmoraca_work | ~sipnat |
| 20:15.41 | infobot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring * + SIP behind NAT : http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 , otherwise check the WIKI at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions |
| 20:16.14 | gettymo | sweet soft hangup worked. |
| 20:16.27 | gettymo | for some reason i've had a call inbound to our 800 number for the last 30 days :( |
| 20:17.06 | *** join/#asterisk Ahmadi (~4e26abcc@gateway/web/freenode/x-kveznvjxmkzkglrn) |
| 20:17.13 | Ahmadi | Hi |
| 20:17.24 | carrar | Hi!!! |
| 20:17.30 | gettymo | what's the correct/normal behavior of people's main menu? ours loops you back in, if the default extension's mailbox is full. |
| 20:17.31 | carrar | Welcome to IRC |
| 20:17.33 | bmoraca_work | gettymo: wow...that's going to be EXPENSIVE |
| 20:17.54 | bmoraca_work | gettymo: that's fine, but you need to put a limit. |
| 20:18.10 | gettymo | i suppose, i should at least stop the bleeding by flushing out our default mailbox |
| 20:18.21 | carrar | gettymo, write a script that warns you about calls over 2 hours or whatever you set |
| 20:18.34 | Ahmadi | I installed asterisknow from following instruction (step by step): |
| 20:18.34 | Ahmadi | http://www.asterisk.org/AsteriskNOW-1.5-QuickStart |
| 20:18.41 | gettymo | ah nice idea - i'll tie it into nagios |
| 20:18.59 | p3nguin | gettymo: You better hope you aren't paying for those minutes. |
| 20:19.11 | Ahmadi | After installing, i can not open webbrowser for opening freepbx |
| 20:19.15 | Ahmadi | And no gui |
| 20:19.19 | Ahmadi | Anyone can help me? |
| 20:19.20 | *** join/#asterisk beers218 (~45c6b055@gateway/web/freenode/x-vlgkfyhyvgqurfdk) |
| 20:19.39 | gettymo | i have to do 10 pushup for every 10 dollars lost |
| 20:20.37 | beers218 | ive tried a few solutions for click to dial in outlook 2007, but for some reason they just dont work. can anyone make any suggestions? |
| 20:20.46 | kaldemar | Ahmadi: #asterisknow is a better place for questions related to it. |
| 20:20.58 | Ahmadi | ok, thanks |
| 20:21.30 | beers218 | sorry, suggestions for packages that might work directly with asterisk |
| 20:21.38 | kaldemar | beers218: based on that, no. at least give something to debug, for example what you see in asterisk's CLI during a call attempt. |
| 20:21.57 | moos3 | how can i catch invalid extensions and move the caller into a sub menu |
| 20:22.23 | carrar | ~book |
| 20:22.24 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 20:22.29 | carrar | read that moos3 |
| 20:22.33 | p3nguin | gettymo: http://pastebin.com/d3c920b31 |
| 20:23.02 | kaldemar | moos3: patterns is the keyword. |
| 20:23.06 | beers218 | kaldemar: activatsp flips out and just plain doesnt work... siptsp initializes the call, but when i pick up my extension, it just plain doesnt do anything but hang up on the CLI |
| 20:23.43 | p3nguin | moos3: Look at the 'i' extension. |
| 20:23.48 | Ahmadi | kaldemar, the channel is near empty ;) |
| 20:23.52 | gettymo | p3nguin: sweet I'll check it out |
| 20:24.08 | moos3 | k thanks |
| 20:24.37 | kaldemar | Ahmadi: still, you will soon notice that basically no one will support GUI's on this channel. :) |
| 20:24.59 | Ahmadi | ok |
| 20:25.22 | p3nguin | gettymo: You'll obviously want to adjust the count and timer values to suit your needs, but the concept works well. |
| 20:26.19 | bmoraca_work | Ahmadi: your problem is that you need to administer the asterisknow from A DIFFERENT COMPUTER than the one it's installed on. there is no GUI on the asterisk box itself. it's a webgui. |
| 20:28.14 | Katty | hi. |
| 20:28.16 | *** join/#asterisk JT (~j@unaffiliated/jt) |
| 20:28.18 | carrar | hi.. |
| 20:28.22 | Katty | asl. |
| 20:28.22 | fenrus | hi |
| 20:28.41 | carrar | 16/F/Brazil |
| 20:28.47 | Katty | hotttt |
| 20:28.54 | carrar | I play soccer |
| 20:29.01 | Ahmadi | bmoraca_work, can i open webgui from a Windows computer, because i have only 2 pc, one is installed asterixnow and one is Windows |
| 20:29.02 | fenrus | twenty-something/m/sweden :) |
| 20:29.07 | Katty | soccer? you hardly know-er! |
| 20:29.19 | kaldemar | carrar: tits or... |
| 20:29.22 | bmoraca_work | Ahmadi: it's a webgui...you can use any browser/operating system you want |
| 20:29.26 | fenrus | ..it didnt happen? |
| 20:29.29 | carrar | heh |
| 20:29.31 | Katty | ^_- |
| 20:29.36 | Katty | we don't need to use that word here |
| 20:29.46 | Katty | i find it offensive |
| 20:29.58 | kaldemar | sorry Katty, let me rephrase. |
| 20:29.59 | nny | i agree webgui is pretty harsh :D |
| 20:30.03 | Katty | nny: i know |
| 20:30.07 | kaldemar | an arm and a leg, or... |
| 20:30.33 | Katty | kaldemar: snickerdoodles. |
| 20:30.47 | Katty | kaldemar: context is everything. |
| 20:31.33 | Katty | mailman! |
| 20:32.01 | Katty | also, in the featherhead fruitcake vs commercial suet block test, so far the featherhead fruitcakes are winning. by a very large margin |
| 20:33.21 | Katty | i've also been tinkering with the idea of mixing in mealworms. |
| 20:33.23 | moos3 | p3nguin: I read that but it doesn't say how to check for invalid entries |
| 20:33.24 | Katty | the deyhdrated ones |
| 20:33.32 | *** join/#asterisk JT (~j@unaffiliated/jt) |
| 20:34.22 | Katty | http://www.songbirdgarden.com/store/ProdImages/UP1new.jpg <- not for the faint of heart/stomach |
| 20:34.48 | Katty | ^- apparently a bluebird favorite |
| 20:35.09 | carrar | YUM |
| 20:35.19 | carrar | roasted |
| 20:35.29 | Katty | well. |
| 20:35.34 | Katty | considering it will be mixed in with lard |
| 20:35.42 | Katty | and peanut butter |
| 20:35.51 | Katty | maybe peanut roasted? |
| 20:36.00 | Katty | Mealworm Muffins |
| 20:36.41 | Katty | carrar: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2010/01/featherhead-fruit-cakes-homemade-suet.html |
| 20:36.58 | Katty | carrar: just picture that with dehydrated worms |
| 20:37.43 | Katty | chococolate pudding and gummy worms. |
| 20:37.51 | Katty | muwhahhaha |
| 20:38.09 | *** join/#asterisk ruben23 (~AGENT@122.55.48.243) |
| 20:38.19 | Katty | hi ruben23 |
| 20:38.44 | ruben23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.01 | p3nguin | moos3: Any extension that HAS NOT BEEN MATCHED is invalid, and goes to 'i'. |
| 20:41.31 | p3nguin | moos3: Matches can be in the current context or any any included context, either by explicit match or pattern match. |
| 20:43.04 | Katty | love is complicated, match is simple. |
| 20:43.27 | Katty | match |
| 20:43.29 | Katty | DOT COM |
| 20:44.37 | moos3 | ok so if 'i' goto |
| 20:46.22 | p3nguin | exten => i,1,BackGround(pbx-invalid) |
| 20:46.24 | p3nguin | exten => i,n,Goto(_NXXZXXXXXX,return) |
| 20:46.36 | p3nguin | something like that would be fine. |
| 20:49.21 | jaytee | eHarmony tried to fix me up with a goat named Ekaterina from Incirlik, Turkey |
| 20:49.40 | bmoraca_work | was she hot? |
| 20:49.57 | jaytee | she was a real goat with hooves |
| 20:50.04 | jaytee | lop eared style |
| 20:50.15 | Katty | goats++ |
| 20:50.22 | Katty | mahhhh |
| 20:50.59 | jaytee | goats are ok as pets or livestock but not as a partner. I'm not into bestiality |
| 20:51.10 | Katty | goats make excellent pets. |
| 20:51.19 | jaytee | we have pygmy goats here |
| 20:51.20 | Katty | if i ever get to move outside the city limits, i'm getting a goat. |
| 20:51.33 | Katty | i prefer alpine or nubians |
| 20:51.40 | Katty | but pygmys are also very sweet |
| 20:51.50 | jaytee | we have two little brown pygmy goats named Hershey and Nestle |
| 20:51.55 | Katty | :>>> |
| 20:52.06 | Katty | do they eat anything they can get their chompers on? |
| 20:52.31 | Qwell | jaytee: Putting "into goats" in your eHarmony profile was maybe a bad idea. :p |
| 20:53.15 | jaytee | and we had 3 slightly larger gold/tan Kenyan pygmy goats named Tagalong, Samoa and Dosido but we lost one to illness and shipped the other to another zoo |
| 20:53.32 | jaytee | Qwell, never mentioned anything about goats in my profile |
| 20:53.41 | Qwell | oh, right, zoo. I was thinking pets |
| 20:53.47 | Qwell | (something one might mention on said profile) |
| 20:54.36 | jaytee | if I put "Loves science fiction movies or novels" I'd get matched up with girls who have, "Love jocks, hate nerdy guys into science fiction" types. |
| 20:55.12 | jaytee | computers, BAH-HUMBUG!!!! |
| 20:55.24 | *** join/#asterisk tw56 (~tw56@82.153.22.16) |
| 20:55.57 | tw56 | Can anyone help me with this. I keep getting hangup after the call is picked up on the handset http://pastebin.com/m4571acda |
| 20:57.29 | jaytee | another freepbx user |
| 20:57.33 | jaytee | groans |
| 20:57.44 | tw56 | :) |
| 20:57.47 | jaytee | ~freepbx |
| 20:57.48 | infobot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or fpbx |
| 20:58.00 | *** join/#asterisk possy (~nnnpossy@smtp.theinternet.de) |
| 20:58.10 | tw56 | if it helps i'm only doing it for a client |
| 20:58.15 | tw56 | fine! |
| 20:59.11 | jaytee | ~botsnack |
| 20:59.11 | infobot | :), jaytee |
| 20:59.27 | jaytee | infobot: I missed you yesterday. where were you? |
| 20:59.28 | infobot | You missed you yesterday. where were you? |
| 20:59.38 | jaytee | :-) |
| 20:59.56 | tw56 | easy route out for people i guess. ;) |
| 21:00.25 | jaytee | what is? not supporting freepbx? most of us don't use it |
| 21:00.51 | tw56 | So. It's like saying. I don't support firefox - only window |
| 21:00.53 | tw56 | s |
| 21:00.57 | Katty | No. |
| 21:01.08 | Katty | We support asterisk here. |
| 21:01.11 | possy | hello |
| 21:01.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Lego doesn't help you build the castle you see pictured on the box... only replace defective parts <- |
| 21:01.16 | tw56 | freepbx is asterisk |
| 21:01.19 | Katty | Not come tangled up, screwed up, version that someone else has developed |
| 21:01.20 | vader-- | Have any of you guys done an upgrade from BPS 4.1 to BES 5.0.1? |
| 21:01.40 | carrar | tw56, freepbx has asterisk in it |
| 21:01.44 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: Ford also doesn't a flying &^$# about you 3rd party stereo you installed incorrectly |
| 21:01.48 | carrar | like a car has a motor |
| 21:01.56 | jaytee | I'd use it if I could do the kind of customized queue control, integration with Exchange 2007 Unified Messaging etc but it's really more suited for Fred and Zelda's Fish Emporium with 5 phone extensions. |
| 21:02.08 | [TK]D-Fender | give* |
| 21:02.24 | *** join/#asterisk theHub (~theHub@69.177.93.21) |
| 21:02.26 | possy | I've installed asterisk 1.6.1 from http://debian.jones.dk, got my dahdi-sources build using m-a a-i dahdi under debian lenny. rebooting shows me a /dev/dahdi |
| 21:02.27 | [TK]D-Fender | [16:01]<tw56>freepbx is asterisk <- No, its a 3rd party add-on |
| 21:02.33 | tw56 | so you're saying there's a difference between installing asterisk from scratch (which i have done many times) and putting custom dialplans in there or using someone elses custom setup |
| 21:02.35 | possy | unfortunately dialing out does not work |
| 21:02.47 | tw56 | I think it's just another case of open source being anal |
| 21:02.47 | carrar | yes |
| 21:02.49 | possy | I get unable to create channel of type 'DAHDI' |
| 21:02.56 | possy | (cause 0 - unknown) |
| 21:03.01 | carrar | tw56, anything else we can help you with today |
| 21:03.02 | possy | I have a HFC-S card. |
| 21:03.09 | possy | ideas anyone? |
| 21:03.13 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: Would you like fries with that, sir? :) |
| 21:03.15 | tw56 | i guess not |
| 21:03.22 | carrar | Yes Please, without salt though |
| 21:03.26 | vader-- | are you guys using anything for GUI's to manage asterisk? |
| 21:03.32 | tw56 | don't say that vader |
| 21:03.36 | tw56 | you'll get flamed |
| 21:03.53 | tw56 | it has to be vi (version 1) |
| 21:03.54 | vader-- | im looking at doing a new setup for our place, i did the dial plans by hand here but that makes me the only one who can make changes or provision shit |
| 21:03.59 | tw56 | that's all that's supported |
| 21:04.11 | jaytee | tw56, it's not being anal, it's just that this channel is for standard asterisk. like the infobot prompt said, freepbx is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved |
| 21:04.21 | possy | cat /proc/dahdi shows: |
| 21:04.24 | possy | Span 1: ZTHFC1 "HFC-S PCI A ISDN card 0 [TE] layer 1 ACTIVATED (F7)" (MASTER) AMI/CCS |
| 21:04.24 | possy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.24 | possy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.24 | possy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.34 | vader-- | i would like some gui to make it easy for people at my place to manage shit |
| 21:04.41 | tw56 | it's also an easy get out. The problem exists in macro-dail |
| 21:04.42 | bmoraca_work | vader--: for customer-facing PBXes, I do use freepbx because some customers do like to have the ability to change and modify certain things. that said, the things that the customers want to change should be fairly easy to set up bythemselves (findmefollowme, fax-to-email, and call forwarding) |
| 21:04.43 | tw56 | dial |
| 21:04.45 | Katty | tw56: Take. |
| 21:04.47 | Katty | tw56: A. |
| 21:04.48 | Katty | tw56: Hint. |
| 21:04.51 | jaytee | vader, so would I but I need to write my own custom one |
| 21:04.58 | Katty | tw56: or sit around and wait for a response you're not going to get. |
| 21:05.01 | tw56 | not any custom freepbx nonesense |
| 21:05.08 | tw56 | hang on a minute |
| 21:05.11 | bmoraca_work | vader--: did you ever decide what you want to do about the Adtran? |
| 21:05.21 | possy | exten => _X.,1,Dial(DAHDI/g1/${EXTEN}) <<< is my dial statement |
| 21:05.36 | tw56 | i have been designing and using base asterisk for years. The last setup i did was a 30 line pri using sangoma cards. |
| 21:05.46 | vader-- | i had a call with my cdwg rep today about getting a demo |
| 21:05.50 | tw56 | Ohhh he's using freepbx. Burn him aline |
| 21:05.51 | tw56 | alive |
| 21:05.52 | jaytee | <golf clap> |
| 21:06.04 | ruben23 | hi. |
| 21:06.07 | ruben23 | cli |
| 21:06.12 | jaytee | "She turned me into a newt!!!" |
| 21:06.21 | Qwell | curses! |
| 21:06.26 | Qwell | (too subtle?) |
| 21:06.30 | jaytee | foiled again |
| 21:06.46 | rubberneck | I get a segfault when using the receiveFAX() application. error message before crash: Cannot calculate far_max_ifp before far_max_datagram has been set. I see some references to this problem online but cant find the solution. Has anyone seen this? |
| 21:07.13 | kaldemar | tw56: it's still not about burning you alive. people are just trying to tell you where to get help. |
| 21:07.17 | vader-- | ya i like having the minut control over asterisk using the confi files |
| 21:07.24 | vader-- | but i would like to be able to have other people manage stuff |
| 21:07.37 | vader-- | provision phones, or extensions, voicemail, etc. |
| 21:07.41 | vader-- | point and click |
| 21:07.45 | tw56 | no kaldemar it's not. It's 'get lost we don't want your kind here' |
| 21:08.05 | tw56 | even though i'm 'your' kind |
| 21:08.24 | jaytee | vader, same here. I'm trying to make a web gui that only adds extensions and sip devices by running backend scripts with sed |
| 21:08.42 | vader-- | SED? |
| 21:08.46 | [TK]D-Fender | [16:04]<tw56>it's also an easy get out. The problem exists in macro-dail <--- that si dialplan. dialplan created by FreePBX. Stuff that you did not make, nor likely understand what its doing. |
| 21:09.00 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: And that isn't the problem anyway. |
| 21:09.09 | Katty | jaytee: newt <4 |
| 21:09.10 | Katty | oh |
| 21:09.11 | jaytee | but since I use Exchange 2007 UM for voice mail instead of *'s RodneyDangerfieldMail |
| 21:09.13 | Katty | jaytee: newt <3 |
| 21:09.19 | jaytee | I can't do it all in a webgui |
| 21:09.21 | bmoraca_work | vader--: CDWG will get you the best prices, definitely. don't know about a demo, though. |
| 21:09.27 | Katty | Narwhal <3 |
| 21:09.31 | tw56 | "nor likely understand what its doing" sodd off |
| 21:09.32 | [TK]D-Fender | Tw. do "sip set debug" (may have to add "on" to the end. Do this at * CLI then retry the call and pastebint he COMPLEtE output |
| 21:09.33 | vader-- | they said something about a try to buy deal |
| 21:09.36 | vader-- | maybe not a demo |
| 21:09.36 | *** part/#asterisk hesco (~hesco@c-24-99-160-121.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 21:09.44 | Katty | tw56: I'll sodd you off in a minute. |
| 21:09.54 | bmoraca_work | vader--: interesting...hope it works out for you |
| 21:09.57 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: Well if you knew everything you'd have fixed it by now, no? |
| 21:10.03 | vader-- | so what is your guys favor GUI? |
| 21:10.04 | jaytee | katty, back in 1991 I had a shareware software company named Narwhal Budgie Software. |
| 21:10.10 | kaldemar | tw56: you're not my kind anyway. i do my own debugging and don't have a hostile attitude towards people who i come for help. :) |
| 21:10.15 | [TK]D-Fender | vader--: Links |
| 21:10.20 | Katty | Budgie is a bird, right? |
| 21:10.30 | jaytee | Katty, parakeet |
| 21:10.33 | Katty | :> |
| 21:10.36 | vader-- | open source? |
| 21:10.43 | Katty | that looks so cute in my head. |
| 21:11.01 | [TK]D-Fender | vader--: yes :) |
| 21:11.05 | tw56 | I have done plenty of debugging. And the hostile attitute started here not from me. Fender if you don't want to help people why are you here. |
| 21:11.09 | bmoraca_work | vader--: i like freepbx...it's not based on users.conf, so if you do have a specific need, it's very easy to go in and write what you need to. there are, obviously, limitations, but for a plain, basic PBX, it's not that bad |
| 21:11.10 | jaytee | Budgerigar |
| 21:11.27 | tw56 | (i have by the way asked you for help before and you've been very good at it) |
| 21:11.31 | vader-- | do you have url for that TK? |
| 21:11.40 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: I jsut told you what to provide to get help. |
| 21:11.52 | [TK]D-Fender | vader--: It was a joke.... the you seem to have missed. |
| 21:11.56 | carrar | tw56, thats like asking for help on openssl in a DNS channel |
| 21:11.57 | vader-- | oh :-( |
| 21:12.03 | carrar | sure, DSL uses SSL |
| 21:12.05 | carrar | err DNS |
| 21:12.14 | tw56 | no it's not. Its like asking for bind help in a dns channel |
| 21:12.14 | jaytee | Links is way better than VI |
| 21:12.22 | Katty | tw56: http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootsaleimages/Disapproving_Narwhal25eDetail.png |
| 21:12.22 | carrar | ok |
| 21:12.24 | carrar | you are right |
| 21:12.24 | [TK]D-Fender | vader--: Most use FreePBX, a few use Thirdlane, Asterisk GUI (DOA), and a few others, but FreePBX gets the lion's share |
| 21:12.27 | carrar | You know it all |
| 21:12.40 | carrar | You have been here for years! |
| 21:12.54 | vader-- | tk how do you feel about freepbx? for the last 3-4 years ive been managing asterisk vi configs/vi, works great for me |
| 21:12.55 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: May-fly-years :) |
| 21:12.58 | jaytee | "Sometimes his wife comes down to collect it" |
| 21:13.01 | carrar | heh |
| 21:13.07 | vader-- | but i need something to make it easier for my less tech savay coworkers to manage the phones |
| 21:13.08 | [TK]D-Fender | vader--: does it do what you want? |
| 21:13.18 | Katty | where's dave |
| 21:13.19 | tw56 | katty: i'm not trying to be confrontational but i have been using this channel for years and have never got what i'm getting now because i mention something which a client wants |
| 21:13.30 | Katty | DAVE IS MIA |
| 21:13.35 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: Are you going to provide what I have requested? |
| 21:14.03 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: I think he just wants to whine |
| 21:14.08 | moy | tw56: don't take it personally, just move on to #freepbx if you don't get what you need from here |
| 21:14.16 | Katty | Personally, i love whining |
| 21:14.19 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (~jon@69-179-99-17.stat.centurytel.net) |
| 21:14.25 | Katty | hi raden |
| 21:14.30 | raden_work | hi |
| 21:14.46 | Katty | goes dave-hunting |
| 21:14.54 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: Things get more interesting when you upgrade to Bitch-n-nag (r) |
| 21:15.14 | raden_work | where naikorvek today ? |
| 21:15.29 | Katty | i haven't seen him |
| 21:15.33 | raden_work | odddd |
| 21:15.34 | Katty | infobot: seen Naikorvek? |
| 21:15.36 | infobot | i haven't seen 'naikorvek', Katty |
| 21:15.43 | Katty | hmm. |
| 21:15.50 | Katty | apparently i can't spell either |
| 21:15.54 | jaytee | is it spelled naivortek? |
| 21:16.03 | Katty | SHHH, dave is coming! |
| 21:16.10 | raden_work | infobot: seen Naikrovek |
| 21:16.10 | infobot | naikrovek <n=jjohnson@unaffiliated/naikrovek> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 3d 8m 27s ago, saying: 'it'll be pretty bare until you start doing things like making calls'. |
| 21:16.27 | raden_work | wow |
| 21:16.32 | Katty | 3 days is forever. |
| 21:16.35 | raden_work | for him yeah |
| 21:16.35 | Kobaz | heh |
| 21:16.40 | raden_work | ill shoot him a email |
| 21:16.42 | Katty | that's like me not being here for 3 days |
| 21:16.50 | jaytee | 3 days!!!!! send out a search party!!!!! |
| 21:16.54 | raden_work | no shit |
| 21:16.59 | Katty | jaytee: i sent out a search party for dave |
| 21:17.00 | *** join/#asterisk eppigy (~Dave@216-139-241-102.aus.us.siteprotect.com) |
| 21:17.03 | eppigy | hello |
| 21:17.07 | jaytee | haha |
| 21:17.07 | eppigy | i am dave |
| 21:17.09 | raden_work | hey bro :) |
| 21:17.10 | jaytee | yes |
| 21:17.11 | Katty | yay |
| 21:17.12 | eppigy | sup raden_work |
| 21:17.12 | jaytee | you are |
| 21:17.13 | Katty | hugs eppigy |
| 21:17.14 | eppigy | hey everyone |
| 21:17.19 | eppigy | huggles on Katty |
| 21:17.19 | jaytee | you are our favorite dave |
| 21:17.22 | Katty | we were worried. |
| 21:17.24 | eppigy | :> |
| 21:17.24 | *** join/#asterisk chilicuil (~chilicuil@unaffiliated/chilicuil) |
| 21:17.26 | *** join/#asterisk mythicalbox (~mythicalb@rrcs-64-183-110-250.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:17.36 | raden_work | eppigy, normal battle at the office LOL setting up 2 more phone servers to send to vitelity for colo |
| 21:17.40 | mythicalbox | does anyone know if cisco 7940/60 SIP firmware supports idle url ? |
| 21:17.50 | eppigy | raden_work: lol word |
| 21:17.53 | Katty | mythicalbox: Cisco probably does. |
| 21:17.59 | raden_work | mythicalbox, try #cisco |
| 21:18.01 | Katty | mythicalbox: you could call and ask |
| 21:18.22 | mythicalbox | Katty: call cisco and ask? -- i've been looking for docs online showing this.. nothing so far |
| 21:18.28 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/m70f65cb9 |
| 21:18.34 | mythicalbox | raden_work: i asked there.. no response yet, figure you all know better anyways :) |
| 21:18.36 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: Many thanks |
| 21:18.40 | carrar | mythicalbox, I do not believe so |
| 21:18.54 | jaytee | I get my url changed every 3000 hits and always turn my phone off to save gas instead of letting it idle |
| 21:18.57 | carrar | But you can have a BMP in the display at all times |
| 21:19.16 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: line 343 |
| 21:19.18 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: that is not the complete call. Please try again |
| 21:19.27 | Katty | mythicalbox: err |
| 21:19.32 | Katty | mythicalbox: 1800gocisco? |
| 21:19.33 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: All of it. From the beginning |
| 21:19.42 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: It is from 343 onwards to 423 |
| 21:19.49 | mythicalbox | Katty: calling :) |
| 21:20.02 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: No. I want to see the ENTIRE CALL. |
| 21:20.21 | bmoraca_work | mythicalbox: idle url? what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 21:20.34 | Katty | mythicalbox: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/support/tsd_cisco_worldwide_contacts.html |
| 21:20.37 | mythicalbox | bmoraca_work: just show some basic queue data on the phone while it is not in use |
| 21:20.38 | *** join/#asterisk rgsteele (~rgsteele@207.106.239.81) |
| 21:20.43 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: that is the entire call?! |
| 21:20.49 | Katty | mythicalbox: pick yer country |
| 21:20.50 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: No, it isn't |
| 21:21.06 | bmoraca_work | mythicalbox: i don't believe so. additionally, 79x0 do not support push. |
| 21:21.19 | Katty | bmoraca_work: i should watch that tonight. |
| 21:21.20 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: 370: SIP/17-00000001 answered mISDN/7-u1 |
| 21:21.23 | Katty | bmoraca_work: that was a super movie |
| 21:21.26 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: that's where it starta |
| 21:21.35 | mythicalbox | bmoraca_work: that's what i was thinking.. it seems the SCCP firmware does support it |
| 21:21.40 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: No. |
| 21:21.55 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: hey now, don't argue with the expert here. |
| 21:22.03 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: the call comes in the moment the misdn channel arrives at * |
| 21:22.17 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: ok..... |
| 21:22.20 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: I never argue with myself... I always win :p |
| 21:22.32 | *** join/#asterisk leifmadsen (~Leif@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) |
| 21:22.32 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o leifmadsen] by ChanServ |
| 21:22.33 | bmoraca_work | mythicalbox: here is the complete list of every config parameter for 79x0 phones: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7960g_7940g/sip/8_0/english/administration/guide/sipaxd80.html |
| 21:22.37 | Katty | hi mister madsen |
| 21:22.52 | leifmadsen | well hello ms katty |
| 21:23.03 | mythicalbox | bmoraca_work: looking now |
| 21:23.41 | Ahmadi | Hi, What is mean of DID? |
| 21:23.53 | jaytee | hi leif |
| 21:23.59 | leifmadsen | up |
| 21:24.00 | leifmadsen | zup* |
| 21:24.04 | Katty | Ahmadi: I assume you mean Meaning of DID. Direct Inward Dial |
| 21:24.08 | seanbright | Ahmadi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_inward_dialing |
| 21:24.11 | bmoraca_work | Ahmadi: direct-inward-dial. basically, it's a phone number that goes directly to a phone, bypassing any other call routing |
| 21:24.18 | jaytee | one of the best mondays I've had in a long time. bossman is on vacation |
| 21:24.29 | Katty | seanbright: ohaider |
| 21:24.33 | seanbright | howdee. |
| 21:24.39 | Kobaz | ManxPower-work: is there anything else i need for updating the polycom idle screen, other than the xml config you gave me? it's not hiting my url i defined |
| 21:25.47 | mythicalbox | Katty/bmoraca_work: on the phone now with cisco.. he sas he does't think so.. okay.. i'll call the client and let them know the bad news.. |
| 21:26.17 | ManxPower-work | ah try |
| 21:26.19 | Katty | mythicalbox: it's not bad news! it's an upgrade opportunity! |
| 21:26.22 | Katty | mythicalbox: ;P |
| 21:26.28 | mythicalbox | lol 220 phones too |
| 21:27.00 | Katty | sounds like chaching to me |
| 21:27.53 | Ahmadi | bmoraca_work, I have four E1, and 8 extensions, im creating a route rule , freepbx asked me DID number, but i dont know what must enter for it? |
| 21:27.56 | Kobaz | like cha-ching? |
| 21:28.37 | Katty | Kobaz: yeah, like cha-ching |
| 21:29.00 | [TK]D-Fender | Ahmadi: #freepbx <- |
| 21:29.03 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: http://pastebin.com/m53c31c5b ? |
| 21:29.03 | Kobaz | wondering if it was a mistyped cacheing |
| 21:29.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ~freepbx |
| 21:29.04 | infobot | [~freepbx] FreePBX is unable to be supported here. It is made up of complex dialplans and scripts which can't be easily supported by people who aren't deeply involved. Try joining #freepbx and asking there, or fpbx |
| 21:29.17 | Ahmadi | ok |
| 21:29.21 | Ahmadi | sorry |
| 21:29.30 | Katty | Kobaz: i like cha-ching better than caching |
| 21:29.58 | Kobaz | heh |
| 21:30.01 | carrar | geo-caching? |
| 21:30.14 | Katty | your mom. |
| 21:30.18 | bmoraca_work | Ahmadi: they probably want the inbound telephone number. |
| 21:30.30 | jaytee | if only there was a book for freepbx as good as *:TFOT is for vanilla asterisk |
| 21:30.49 | Kobaz | tfot? |
| 21:31.00 | Kobaz | three freedom of the hills? |
| 21:31.06 | Kobaz | er, the |
| 21:31.10 | jaytee | Asterisk: The Futility of Telephony |
| 21:31.13 | Kobaz | oh |
| 21:31.17 | Kobaz | oh yeah |
| 21:31.19 | bmoraca_work | jaytee: that's about right |
| 21:31.20 | jaytee | or Future |
| 21:31.29 | carrar | heh |
| 21:31.40 | Kobaz | i was thinking you were saying the freedom of the hills, like as in the book, mountaineering, freedom of the hills |
| 21:32.20 | carrar | have crampons will travel |
| 21:32.24 | jaytee | the book is fine, it's applying the knowledge and supporting the technology that causes ulcers and premature balding, hemorrhoids, etc. |
| 21:33.02 | Kobaz | will code for gear |
| 21:33.03 | Katty | or in Katty's case, perminent insanity |
| 21:33.06 | jaytee | Kobaz, I think I've actually read that book years ago |
| 21:33.18 | Kobaz | i have the 5th edition |
| 21:33.18 | jaytee | I've climbed a few tall "hills" in my day |
| 21:33.43 | Kobaz | the general stuff hasn't changed much |
| 21:33.48 | jaytee | but only in the lower 48 US |
| 21:33.48 | *** join/#asterisk romain (~romain@peerfuse.org) |
| 21:33.50 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: mISDN is the side that terminated the call. |
| 21:33.57 | Kobaz | yeah i've only done lower 48 |
| 21:34.13 | Kobaz | like 14ers in colorado and stuff, bunches of winter hiking/camping in new york |
| 21:34.31 | Kobaz | lots of climbing all over the country |
| 21:34.32 | [TK]D-Fender | You can disable SIP debug and look at mISDN debug (no idea how to enable that), and that might give a clue as to why. One though it that the call didn't get answered quite quick enough for its liking |
| 21:34.33 | jaytee | Pike's Peak, CO. Mt. McGloughlin, OR, Mt Washington, NH. |
| 21:34.49 | Kobaz | mount washington is a fun winter trip |
| 21:34.51 | Katty | jaytee: sounds like it might be time for a float trip! |
| 21:34.56 | jaytee | wanted to do Hood and Rainier but never had the time |
| 21:35.10 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: Aha. Yeah but it only bombs when the call is answered. Otherwise it just keeps ringing |
| 21:35.22 | jaytee | or more precisely, when I had the time I didn't have the money, when I had the money I didn't have the time |
| 21:35.25 | Kobaz | [TK]D-Fender: i've had that problem with h323... never did ge that working |
| 21:35.27 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: And change if yuo answer sooner or later? |
| 21:36.07 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: no exactly the same story. Pickup - the phone shows it's been answered then hangup. The incomming call stays connected with a dead line |
| 21:36.10 | jaytee | Kobaz, I think the only people that think Mt Washington is a fun winter trip are masochists and sherpas |
| 21:36.28 | Kobaz | hah |
| 21:36.37 | Kobaz | it's like a resort though |
| 21:36.46 | Kobaz | hermit lake shelters have four walls |
| 21:36.51 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: Could be an incorrect mISDN setting.... because we see * dropping it |
| 21:37.04 | Kobaz | and it's 6 miles round trip to the summit from there, and only like two miles from franconia notch to the shelters |
| 21:37.06 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: Which wouldn't affect outgoing calls? |
| 21:37.10 | jaytee | Kobaz, it recently lost the record for highest wind speeds recorded |
| 21:37.17 | Kobaz | oh really |
| 21:37.26 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: Unsure.... but at least it doesn't look like a SIP issue or a phone issue |
| 21:37.50 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: ok cool - i'll see what i can get out of misdn debug |
| 21:37.53 | tw56 | [TK]D-Fender: thanks! |
| 21:37.53 | jaytee | yeah, some place in New Zealand beat it back in the late 80's or 90's but never realized it until someone was analyzing old data. |
| 21:38.20 | Kobaz | it was about 60mph winds when we were up there, gusting to 70-80 |
| 21:38.46 | jaytee | it was 238mph record back in the 30's I believe |
| 21:38.51 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 21:38.55 | Kobaz | i have the tshirt |
| 21:39.18 | [TK]D-Fender | tw56: http://pastebin.com/m53c31c5b <- #664 call it about to terminate. #683 Asterisk is telling the phone that it is hanging up on it, not the other way around. this means the other leg died first. |
| 21:39.24 | *** join/#asterisk came0 (~came0@rrcs-71-42-53-182.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:39.32 | Kobaz | i remember seeing a video of a guy trying to pour tea from a thermos and none of it made it into his cup |
| 21:39.41 | Kobaz | and then eventually the table he was using blew away |
| 21:40.09 | jaytee | there's a rock in Southern Oregon and the peak is at 5500ft elevation. it's an easy climb but it's cool because of the view and standing on one side of the rock you're in Cali and on the other side you're in Oregon. |
| 21:40.13 | came0 | hey whats a good cheap IP phone I can use with my hosted asterisk? I need something inexpensive but that will give me good enough sound quaility to convince the guys in my office to switch |
| 21:40.19 | Kobaz | ~cheap |
| 21:40.20 | infobot | from memory, cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 21:40.22 | jaytee | It's called Pilot Rock and it's in Ashland |
| 21:40.47 | Kobaz | came0: polycom 320, it runs about 90 bucks, plus 15 for the power supply |
| 21:40.50 | [TK]D-Fender | came0: Being in the US, Polycom. Accept no substitutes |
| 21:40.52 | Katty | came0: Polycom IP 320 or 330 is good. |
| 21:40.59 | bmoraca_work | Ashland Oregon is great during the Shakespeare Festival |
| 21:41.10 | Katty | came0: 330 has an extra ethernet port for another networked device. |
| 21:41.13 | jaytee | "they'll get my Polycom when they pry it from my cold dead fingers." |
| 21:41.13 | [TK]D-Fender | IP 320/330 should NOT be purchaed. Get the 321/331 at a minimum |
| 21:41.20 | came0 | jaytee: i snowboard in tahoe where one side of the mountain is cali on one side and nevada on the other :) pretty cool |
| 21:41.21 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: why. |
| 21:41.27 | Kobaz | well yeah, you can't really buy the 320's anymore either |
| 21:41.28 | came0 | ok thanks guys i'll look it up! |
| 21:41.39 | Kobaz | Katty: new model, more ram/rom |
| 21:41.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Kobaz: They will be supported longer. they are replacements for a reason |
| 21:41.43 | Katty | mmmiseek |
| 21:41.57 | came0 | Katty: what type of other networked device? like my computer? |
| 21:41.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Katty: if u seek Amt |
| 21:42.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Amy*drat |
| 21:42.03 | Katty | came0: erruhh |
| 21:42.13 | Katty | carrar: ethernet |
| 21:42.18 | Katty | came0: ethernet |
| 21:42.23 | Katty | carrar: MISSTELL |
| 21:42.23 | [TK]D-Fender | checkout time, BBL |
| 21:42.37 | came0 | you mean rather than running another ethernet from the router to plug in to my computer i should just use this other port on the phone? |
| 21:43.05 | jaytee | hmmmm, there's this song going through my head from REO Speedwagon |
| 21:43.15 | Katty | came0: pretend it's a fax line out |
| 21:43.19 | Katty | came0: but for ethernet |
| 21:43.26 | Katty | came0: mmmkay? |
| 21:43.29 | jaytee | "Time for me to fly" |
| 21:43.37 | came0 | Katty: now youre just annoying me. |
| 21:43.43 | jaytee | back in a while |
| 21:43.43 | came0 | ok thanks guys! im outta here |
| 21:43.44 | Katty | oh goody |
| 21:43.59 | Katty | i have achieved my goal for the day |
| 21:44.02 | *** part/#asterisk jaytee (~jforde@unaffiliated/jaytee) |
| 21:44.31 | possy | Could anyone help me with my problem in configuring DAHDI with an HFC-S isdn card? dahdi_cfg -vvv shows all the details, dahdi show channels, shows all the channels, but dialing out stops with cause 88 |
| 21:44.43 | possy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.43 | possy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.43 | possy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.43 | possy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.49 | Kobaz | ~pastebin |
| 21:44.49 | infobot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 21:44.50 | p3nguin | ~pb |
| 21:44.50 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 21:44.54 | possy | Any pointers are greatly appreciated. |
| 21:45.38 | Kobaz | p3nguin: i win |
| 21:45.54 | p3nguin | only by a fraction of a millisecond |
| 21:45.55 | possy | it was lines :,( |
| 21:45.58 | possy | 4 |
| 21:46.26 | possy | pointers anyone? |
| 21:46.52 | vader-- | What are your guys thoughts on Amooma for WebGUI management of asterisk? |
| 21:47.05 | possy | dahdi_scan produces: http://pastebin.com/m736f7315 |
| 21:47.52 | possy | lsmod|grep dahdi: http://pastebin.com/m6f7c52f1 |
| 21:48.38 | possy | dpkg -l|grep dahdi: http://pastebin.com/m29c07dae |
| 21:48.48 | vader-- | i mean Gemeinschaft |
| 21:49.06 | possy | dpkg -l|grep asterisk: http://pastebin.com/m33f333c8 |
| 21:52.59 | bmoraca_work | vader--: never heard of them |
| 21:54.43 | *** join/#asterisk came0 (~came0@rrcs-71-42-53-182.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 21:55.25 | came0 | hey everyone who recomended the polycom 320... you recomend that over the newer 321? |
| 21:55.32 | came0 | and 331? |
| 21:56.41 | *** join/#asterisk lesouvage (~lesouvage@82.73.69.76) |
| 21:59.12 | *** join/#asterisk phl4kx (~phl4kx@mail001.centralcorp.upnorte.edu.pe) |
| 21:59.13 | phl4kx | hi all |
| 21:59.29 | p3nguin | (1541.13) <[TK]D-Fender> IP 320/330 should NOT be purchaed. Get the 321/331 at a minimum |
| 21:59.36 | p3nguin | came0: ^^^^^ |
| 21:59.39 | Katty | phl4kx: hai |
| 21:59.52 | phl4kx | Katty, hello |
| 21:59.55 | phl4kx | how are you? |
| 22:00.00 | carrar | Are you in a peruvian flute band? |
| 22:00.07 | came0 | p3nguin: thx |
| 22:01.43 | Katty | phl4kx: i'm just peachy thanks! |
| 22:01.57 | phl4kx | ? |
| 22:02.07 | phl4kx | Katty, you are from peru? |
| 22:02.14 | Katty | not last time i checked. |
| 22:02.24 | carrar | not you |
| 22:02.28 | carrar | the person from peru |
| 22:02.31 | carrar | .pe |
| 22:02.31 | phl4kx | yes |
| 22:02.32 | phl4kx | me |
| 22:02.34 | carrar | heh |
| 22:02.46 | carrar | Thats awesome |
| 22:02.50 | phl4kx | I need a name for a technologie company |
| 22:02.53 | phl4kx | some recommendations? |
| 22:03.00 | carrar | tech.com |
| 22:03.04 | Katty | Narwal Baconis. |
| 22:03.05 | carrar | err |
| 22:03.07 | carrar | tech.pe |
| 22:03.19 | carrar | heh |
| 22:03.44 | carrar | oh it's taken sorry |
| 22:04.00 | phl4kx | haha |
| 22:04.04 | carrar | hightech.pe |
| 22:04.05 | phl4kx | another options? |
| 22:04.33 | came0 | whats a technologie? |
| 22:04.41 | carrar | techflow.pe |
| 22:05.13 | Katty | Debonairstorage |
| 22:05.18 | carrar | iliketo.pe |
| 22:05.19 | Katty | Kudezzi |
| 22:05.31 | phl4kx | kudezzi |
| 22:05.32 | phl4kx | ? |
| 22:05.36 | *** join/#asterisk jhirley (~jhirley@74.11.153.178) |
| 22:05.37 | phl4kx | what is kudezzi? |
| 22:05.46 | Katty | i have no idea |
| 22:05.58 | Katty | Foppik, LLC |
| 22:06.22 | Katty | Mevsa, INC |
| 22:06.37 | jhirley | waives to everyone ! |
| 22:06.43 | Katty | jhirley: hai |
| 22:06.45 | came0 | hip.pe |
| 22:06.51 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~chatzilla@64.235.218.194) |
| 22:06.57 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: GET OUT |
| 22:07.04 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: we don't want none |
| 22:07.04 | jhirley | hey |
| 22:07.07 | Katty | [TK]D-Fender: we gave at the office |
| 22:07.32 | carrar | gave what |
| 22:07.45 | Katty | your mom. |
| 22:07.55 | carrar | lier lier pants on fire |
| 22:08.14 | eppigy | UR mom |
| 22:08.18 | jhirley | gets a bucket of water and waits |
| 22:08.21 | eppigy | YOU A MOM |
| 22:09.43 | Katty | your mom's face. |
| 22:09.53 | eppigy | your face's mom |
| 22:10.03 | Katty | your mom's son's face. |
| 22:10.26 | carrar | PI in your face |
| 22:10.43 | Katty | yum. i'll take 2 |
| 22:10.47 | eppigy | your mom's offspring's face resulting from a recssive gene |
| 22:11.00 | Katty | that was my sister. |
| 22:11.03 | jhirley | your mom's bother's cousin's friend back in the second grade's face ? |
| 22:11.06 | eppigy | word |
| 22:11.08 | came0 | what do you think of the Polycom VVX phones with video? |
| 22:11.09 | [TK]D-Fender | PI r not squared. Pi r round |
| 22:11.13 | came0 | [TK]D-Fender: ^^^ |
| 22:11.14 | Katty | she's the one with blonde hair and blue eyes |
| 22:11.20 | Katty | no one else in my family has that |
| 22:11.25 | Katty | cept for grandma on dad's side. |
| 22:11.31 | eppigy | mail man |
| 22:11.39 | jhirley | we call the milk man |
| 22:11.42 | Katty | ^- face |
| 22:11.52 | Katty | iw ish we had a milk man |
| 22:11.54 | jhirley | and shoot him if the dna comeback . |
| 22:11.55 | Katty | that would be awesome. |
| 22:12.07 | Katty | delivering fresh bottles of milk |
| 22:12.19 | Katty | he could probably be bribed to bring oreos on his daily route |
| 22:12.29 | eppigy | as stated above yes |
| 22:12.33 | Katty | cept then i'd weigh eleventy pounds |
| 22:12.44 | [TK]D-Fender | came0: Never used |
| 22:12.53 | phl4kx | I need a name for a technologie company |
| 22:13.03 | carrar | make one up |
| 22:13.08 | jhirley | ph4 technologies LLC |
| 22:13.10 | carrar | otherwise we get name rolyaties |
| 22:13.13 | Katty | foxors moxors |
| 22:13.23 | eppigy | boss hog tech inc. |
| 22:13.39 | Katty | that sounds like a great BBQ and wifi place |
| 22:13.43 | voipmonk | Send VoIPMonk Royalties Because he came up with my company name ( dot com ) |
| 22:13.50 | Katty | DOT COM |
| 22:14.05 | carrar | DOTCOM.com |
| 22:14.12 | Katty | taken. |
| 22:14.15 | raden_work | is there a specific version of linux that asterisk likes the best ? |
| 22:14.21 | carrar | DOTCOMDOTDOT.com |
| 22:14.24 | voipmonk | whats your company going to do? |
| 22:14.27 | Katty | raden_work: the one you work with the best. |
| 22:14.34 | jhirley | seems most people use cent os |
| 22:14.38 | raden_work | opensuse or ubuntu server ? |
| 22:14.54 | jhirley | trix, pbxinaflash and asterisknow all use centos |
| 22:14.58 | phl4kx | TRIX |
| 22:15.08 | Katty | use what you wanna use |
| 22:15.18 | carrar | use Solaris |
| 22:15.31 | jhirley | slackware 1.2 |
| 22:15.34 | carrar | SUNOS 4.1.4 |
| 22:15.53 | Katty | <- debian girl. |
| 22:15.58 | Katty | i mean |
| 22:16.00 | p3nguin | raden_work: Any of the 2.6 versions past 2.6.21 should work fine. |
| 22:16.03 | Katty | 40 year old man in the basement |
| 22:16.06 | Katty | <- debian guy |
| 22:16.18 | Katty | STOP PMING ME |
| 22:16.25 | carrar | PICS!! |
| 22:16.35 | carrar | of the basement |
| 22:16.37 | Katty | of your mom? |
| 22:16.49 | *** join/#asterisk niekie (~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie) |
| 22:16.55 | carrar | You already have those |
| 22:17.11 | raden_work | debian rocks ;) |
| 22:18.09 | raden_work | i cannot believe how many more people are in #debian ves. #suse |
| 22:18.41 | Katty | can't say i've ever used suse |
| 22:18.47 | *** join/#asterisk rdahlin_1 (~rdahlin_1@78-73-19-238-no168.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 22:19.09 | Katty | http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=117545§ionid=351020101 <- this doesn't look...happy |
| 22:20.33 | carrar | They have weapons of mass destruction |
| 22:20.55 | Katty | makes note to stay home on feb 11th |
| 22:21.14 | [TK]D-Fender | carrar: Weight Watchers? |
| 22:21.27 | carrar | hahah |
| 22:21.27 | carrar | http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=117612§ionid=351020406 |
| 22:21.29 | Kobaz | Katty: he looks like a nice enough guy |
| 22:21.31 | carrar | I read that title |
| 22:21.36 | carrar | nice |
| 22:21.45 | bmoraca_work | god, the people who answer the phones here are idiots |
| 22:22.27 | Katty | liberalism...would have crushed all human dignity in their power-seeking and money-grubbing claws! |
| 22:22.31 | bmoraca_work | a customer called a couple of weeks ago with a catastrophic issue with their phone service and they sent it to my voicemail 3 times while i was not in the office...so i told them "don't send phone system problems to my voicemail, find me about it" |
| 22:22.51 | *** join/#asterisk lanning (~lanning@208.87.235.224) |
| 22:23.07 | bmoraca_work | so now, any phone call, whether it's a current customer or not, with any mention of the word "phone" in it gets directed to me, regardless of what I'm doing and whether or not it's an urgent issue |
| 22:23.19 | Katty | bmoraca_work: sounds about right |
| 22:23.28 | Katty | bmoraca_work: just wait until they send someone to your house to find you |
| 22:23.29 | bmoraca_work | i've had four sales calls today interrupted by shit that didn't matter. |
| 22:23.39 | Katty | bmoraca_work: and knock on your door for 5 minutes straight while you're getting a shower |
| 22:23.46 | carrar | DND is a great button |
| 22:24.04 | bmoraca_work | Katty: my boss did that when I walked out two years ago :P moron payroll clerk shorted my pay and wouldn't correct it, so i left. |
| 22:24.39 | Katty | bmoraca_work: well i was leaving for the weekend, and someone wanted their after hours attendant changed. |
| 22:24.51 | Katty | bmoraca_work: so work felt it neccessary to send someone to my house when i was answering my phone.... |
| 22:25.01 | Katty | bmoraca_work: you can imagine my irritation |
| 22:25.30 | Katty | s/was/wasn't/ |
| 22:27.25 | came0 | Think its worth getting the 335 rather than the 331 to get the polycom HD VOICE? |
| 22:27.32 | came0 | HD does sound sweeeet.... |
| 22:28.15 | jhirley | Now your, your own boss, unless you count your wife. |
| 22:28.25 | *** join/#asterisk dseeb_ (~Adium@CPE-124-177-30-127.lns2.dav.bigpond.net.au) |
| 22:28.38 | p3nguin | my eyes! |
| 22:28.59 | jhirley | your thinking about here naked arn't you. |
| 22:29.22 | p3nguin | Your sentences. They don't make sense! |
| 22:29.23 | jhirley | I know you are, or maybe in a little sexy p3nguin outfit |
| 22:29.35 | QubeZ | im using a Linksys SPA3102 over my VoIP network for faxes. Outbound works but inbound does not. I've verified there is no "Answer" in my dialplan for this number. Also, when I call, I do get a fax tone. When I try to fax to it from another machine, it says "transmit error: no fax reply". Any ideas? |
| 22:30.08 | p3nguin | qubez: Put a full sip debug of a failed inbound fax into pastebin.com. |
| 22:30.23 | QubeZ | p3nguin ill do that now |
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| 22:31.42 | *** part/#asterisk Wildy (~simba@89.222.134.42) |
| 22:32.09 | mnick86 | does anybody run asterisk on an intel atom cpu ? |
| 22:32.27 | p3nguin | Yes |
| 22:32.51 | mnick86 | does it work well ?? cpu usage is sufficient ? |
| 22:34.10 | jhirley | p3nguin: Which atom are you using, if you don't mind me asking ? |
| 22:34.34 | *** join/#asterisk jaytee (~jforde051@unaffiliated/jaytee) |
| 22:34.49 | p3nguin | I'm not using any Atom. |
| 22:34.51 | Qwell | mnick86: it should handle "a few" calls at least |
| 22:34.58 | [TK]D-Fender | came0: HD Voice, Backlight, RJ-9 headset, etc |
| 22:35.04 | jaytee | ok, now I'm on my home Ubuntu box and the same thing is happening with the userlist and autojoin |
| 22:35.31 | jaytee | gotta be something changed in the server settings for this channel |
| 22:35.36 | p3nguin | It must be you, since dlynes_laptop didn't have the issue. |
| 22:35.42 | jaytee | that only affects xchat |
| 22:35.43 | Qwell | jaytee: what's the problem? |
| 22:37.05 | jaytee | Qwell, both my Ubuntu workstation at work and this one at home using xchat are affected. When I launch xchat it no longer autojoins #asterisk and it now sorts the userlist differently. it puts anyone with a [ in their nick at the very bottom. Ops and nicks without special characters sort normal though. |
| 22:37.13 | jaytee | beek had the same issue this morning |
| 22:39.16 | jaytee | i'm connecting to the card.freenode.net server which says it was created saturday so maybe it's something with that |
| 22:39.19 | Qwell | the first is because...umm |
| 22:39.20 | Qwell | hang on |
| 22:39.36 | *** join/#asterisk Torrieri (~Torrieri@nelug/crew/torrieri) |
| 22:40.09 | jaytee | and I get this message now which I didn't before: |
| 22:40.15 | jaytee | #asterisk :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services |
| 22:40.16 | jaytee | * unaffiliated/jaytee :is now your hidden host (set by services.) |
| 22:41.36 | Qwell | I assume you have your pass in the "Server password" field in the network list? |
| 22:41.58 | Qwell | I believe it has to be user:pass now, instead of just pass |
| 22:43.28 | *** join/#asterisk Alagar (~Administr@122.164.37.204) |
| 22:43.59 | russellb | Qwell: well that seems silly |
| 22:44.06 | russellb | way to unnecessarily break everyone's client configs |
| 22:44.20 | Qwell | well, they mention it for TOR connections. I dunno though |
| 22:44.24 | Qwell | would have to ask in #freenode |
| 22:47.47 | rubberneck | In an all SIP environment, would it be possible to route calls requesting T.38 to a different SIP peer than normal call traffic? |
| 22:49.24 | came0 | [TK]D-Fender: Ok buying a polycom 335 from voipdw.com! unless i should buy it somewhere else.... |
| 22:49.55 | came0 | theyre not on amazon unfortunetly |
| 22:50.11 | Qwell | came0: he usually recommends telephonydepot |
| 22:51.59 | came0 | ok telephonydepot it is... these guys atleast have paypal... |
| 22:52.22 | p3nguin | came0: How much are you going to spend at each of those sites? |
| 22:52.26 | p3nguin | per phone |
| 22:53.09 | came0 | voipdw.com is 119.67 plus 9.96 shipping |
| 22:53.12 | came0 | and... |
| 22:53.15 | p3nguin | with or without power supply? |
| 22:53.46 | came0 | 133.75 on telephony depot.... thats with the supply the other one is no supply |
| 22:53.58 | *** part/#asterisk bsaxon (~bsaxon@12.68.234.174) |
| 22:54.00 | Katty | if memory serves, power supply was about 15 bucks |
| 22:54.07 | came0 | 121.95 with no ps from TD |
| 22:54.08 | Katty | if you buy it from a vendor who sells it seperately |
| 22:54.14 | p3nguin | http://www.telecomworldonline.com/avaya/24844-Polycom-SoundPoint-IP-335.html |
| 22:54.23 | p3nguin | Yes, 15 for the ps. |
| 22:54.25 | Katty | SQUIRREL |
| 22:54.27 | came0 | i've seen them on amaszon for 10 bucks if theyre the same as the ones for the 320 |
| 22:56.16 | came0 | p3nguin: you used these guys before? i want someone who ships fast TD says same day shipping |
| 22:57.11 | p3nguin | Orders placed before 4 pm EST will be shipped the same day |
| 22:57.24 | came0 | is this your company? |
| 22:57.33 | p3nguin | no |
| 22:57.44 | came0 | you gettin a kickback? |
| 22:57.47 | came0 | :P |
| 22:57.56 | p3nguin | Unfortunately, no. |
| 22:58.23 | p3nguin | You can certainly buy where ever you want; I was just giving you competitive pricing. |
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| 23:02.06 | came0 | hehe just messin with ya man.. thanks for the info |
| 23:02.36 | p3nguin | If I were a distributor, I would try to give you a lower price than all the others. |
| 23:03.29 | came0 | i'm hoping this thing works... ive got a hosted dedicated asterisk server but when I use the softphone its not perfect sound quaility... i'm hoping this will fix it |
| 23:03.47 | rossand | My asterisk is happy with twinkle, xlite, etc. but not happy with a snom 370. Can call out fine. Incoming calls report congestion. What does: Received response: "Forbidden" from... mean? It's the only notable thing with sip debug on and verbose set to 10. Any ideas are very much appreciated. |
| 23:03.49 | Kobaz | voip puts you at the mercy of the internet |
| 23:03.52 | came0 | i really dont want to have to put a dedicated server in house |
| 23:03.53 | p3nguin | Softphones are often of lesser quality. |
| 23:04.13 | JayTee52 | if you don't get acceptable sound quality from Polycom you're not going to get it with any other brand |
| 23:04.15 | p3nguin | came0: Any reason why you don't want to? |
| 23:04.44 | came0 | i've finally got all my webservers in 'the cloud' (amazons data center).... now i may have to host my own asterisk server |
| 23:05.16 | came0 | well just the general pain of maintaining the server... plus I travel a lot... so i'm usually no in the office anyway |
| 23:05.21 | came0 | so why should it be hosted here? |
| 23:05.22 | p3nguin | You're trying to get everything out of there? |
| 23:05.24 | Kobaz | everything is good in the cloud until it rains |
| 23:05.42 | came0 | Kobaz... thats catchy... it should be on the geek squad bumper sticker or something :P |
| 23:05.50 | Kobaz | hah |
| 23:06.27 | came0 | I dont know... maybe its easier to just have it in house... i'm sure its cheaper over the course of a couple years.... |
| 23:06.31 | p3nguin | If all your phones are in the office building, you'll be sending all registrations and calls over the internet, where if the server was in-house, only outbound and inbound calls would be over the internet. |
| 23:07.21 | Kobaz | calling from desk a to desk b, is going to go to oshkosh and back |
| 23:07.33 | came0 | ah, well we dont call extension to extension... only out and inbound |
| 23:07.43 | Kobaz | and the office workers are going to yell and scream when there's jitter and packet loss |
| 23:07.45 | p3nguin | you mean from phone to phone |
| 23:07.52 | came0 | from phone to phone yes |
| 23:08.00 | came0 | theres only 3 of us in the main office |
| 23:08.03 | came0 | and remote workers |
| 23:08.16 | came0 | so most calls are not originated from the office anyway |
| 23:08.22 | p3nguin | Then it really isn't much of an issue for you. |
| 23:08.26 | came0 | and we never call phone to phone in the office.... yeah |
| 23:08.32 | came0 | kinda a unique setup I guess |
| 23:08.46 | p3nguin | The only other thing is the cost of letting someone else take care of your server. |
| 23:08.54 | came0 | so i'm thinking thats the benifit to having the server in house... and it doesnt really apply here |
| 23:09.16 | p3nguin | You can probably buy a really good box and have it in-house for the price of two months of hosted pbx services. |
| 23:09.37 | p3nguin | And it'll run for several years. |
| 23:10.06 | Kobaz | you can build a good dual core asterisk box for like ~350 |
| 23:10.13 | Kobaz | or buy one from dell for like ~450 |
| 23:10.22 | JayTee52 | and you won't have to spend hours arguing on your cellphone if your hosting service takes a dive |
| 23:10.27 | Kobaz | exactly |
| 23:10.49 | came0 | yeah... im using this arretta program... let me see what it is.... 60 bucks a month.. for 6 max simultanous calls |
| 23:10.54 | came0 | i'm just on this for testing |
| 23:11.01 | came0 | i'll have to bump up to a higher plan too |
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| 23:11.06 | Kobaz | as cool and and cost-effective as voip is. it's terrible for long haul delivery over 3rd party networks |
| 23:11.08 | came0 | when we go production.... |
| 23:11.57 | p3nguin | came0: Do you know what amounts of usage you'll have, such as minutes inbound and minutes outbound per month? |
| 23:12.24 | came0 | i'll probably want like 15-20 simultanous calls |
| 23:12.31 | came0 | hmm we use a ton |
| 23:12.33 | came0 | let me think |
| 23:12.46 | came0 | we're on a $500/month unlimited plan with att |
| 23:13.04 | p3nguin | I can see why you're ready to go all VoIP. |
| 23:13.11 | came0 | so I dont really count minutes right now but it would be thousands |
| 23:13.57 | came0 | honestly its more that I want to integrate our phone system with my custom web-based software for the business... if it cost the same per month I'd be fine with it |
| 23:13.59 | bmoraca_work | came0: price is mostly determined by quantity of inbound vs. outbound. for instance, a PRI would probably be cheaper if a majority of calls were inbound (depending on carrier) |
| 23:14.03 | came0 | but less is good too :) |
| 23:14.32 | came0 | bmoraca_work: about half and half inbound vs outbound |
| 23:14.43 | came0 | oh yeah that 60/month is just for the server no trunk |
| 23:14.46 | p3nguin | came0: http://www.callcentric.com/dids/office_unlimited |
| 23:14.47 | came0 | or whatever you call it |
| 23:15.33 | p3nguin | How many simultaneous inbound calls do you expect to have? |
| 23:15.57 | p3nguin | half of your projected overall calls? |
| 23:16.30 | came0 | hm, well it will increase as the years go on (I hope) but right now about max 10 inbound |
| 23:16.41 | came0 | yeah about half |
| 23:16.50 | came0 | maybe a little less than half |
| 23:16.54 | came0 | maybe 60/40 |
| 23:16.56 | came0 | but pretty close |
| 23:17.15 | came0 | 60 inbound 40 outbound that is |
| 23:17.16 | bmoraca_work | came0: what's the application? |
| 23:19.16 | came0 | It's a custom app I wrote originally in django/python and I'm migrating to javascript/couchdb... its for my transportation company... a CRM mixed with 'shipment contract tracking' and google maps for mapping and routing and some accounting and reporting features |
| 23:19.28 | came0 | pretty unique to what we do here.. but built on all open source stuff |
| 23:19.53 | bmoraca_work | came0: i meant the application of the phone system, mostly. what's the purpose behind all of these calls? |
| 23:21.10 | came0 | hahah..... gotcha... well shippers and customers are calling us all day and we're tracking the shipments associated with that customer or shipper... so I want a list of calls that are in queue in my web app, then i click on the call and it brings up associated account info with that contact and at the same time puts them through to my extension |
| 23:21.22 | came0 | as well as click to dial and reporting and stuff |
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| 23:24.39 | came0 | brb |
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| 23:32.31 | DOP251 | Hi, is there any way to capture the SIP response code when originating calls using AMI? |
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| 23:35.43 | DOP251 | very quiet here... |
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| 23:39.56 | p3nguin | dop251: You could watch sip debug on the CLI while originating your call via AMI. |
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| 23:41.19 | DOP251 | I know, but I need it not for debugging purposes but as a part of application logic: I would like to distignuish permanent errors from temporary ones |
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| 23:41.42 | DOP251 | to stop making further call attempts in the case of a permanent failure |
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| 23:42.58 | DOP251 | I tried to listen to events which almost works except for the fact that I receive events about all calls being handled and unfortunately here is no way I can tie these events to a particular call |
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| 23:43.37 | DOP251 | because in case of failure the uniqueid field in the OriginateResponse event is surprisingly null |
| 23:44.37 | DOP251 | even though it's not null in all the events that are being sent during the call attempt |
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| 23:53.30 | p3nguin | qwell, russellb, leifmadsen |
| 23:53.33 | Madkiss | geez |
| 23:53.38 | russellb | WHAT |
| 23:53.40 | leifmadsen | p3nguin: yes?! |
| 23:54.00 | leifmadsen | beats russellb with a whiffle bat |
| 23:54.01 | p3nguin | I was wondering if someone would halt that. |
| 23:54.09 | russellb | it appears to have stopped... |
| 23:54.15 | russellb | ~thwack leifmadsen |
| 23:54.16 | infobot | ACTION beats leifmadsen on the eblow with a AS/400 |
| 23:54.26 | leifmadsen | nice typo |
| 23:54.30 | leifmadsen | sucka |
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| 23:54.39 | russellb | typo? |
| 23:54.47 | leifmadsen | eblow |
| 23:54.51 | russellb | ah. |
| 23:54.52 | bmoraca_work | with an as/400? that would hurt |
| 23:55.01 | russellb | bmoraca_work: that's the idea, yeah |
| 23:55.25 | coppice | apple will follow the eblow with the iBlow |
| 23:55.39 | p3nguin | heh, coppice blows. |
| 23:55.51 | bmoraca_work | well, they've already got the iPad for all your absorbent needs |
| 23:56.06 | p3nguin | Err, wait... Apple blows. |
| 23:57.02 | p3nguin | I guess the iPad is for those girls that don't like iTampons, huh? |
| 23:57.09 | bmoraca_work | i still can't believe they put the iPhone OS on it...and thus preempted the ability to use flash on it. i thought that the whole point of the iPad was to be a portable multimedia device...and as much as flash sucks, most online multimedia is flash |
| 23:57.21 | coppice | the iPad is actually a bra |
| 23:57.28 | bmoraca_work | p3nguin: i prefer girls that go for the iTouch |
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