| 00:05.49 | *** join/#asterisk doolittlework (~d@41-134-22-10.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 00:07.18 | doolittlework | i know this is not a asterisk questions but need help with linking grandstream Gxw4008 and gxw4108 there documentation is very limited, if anyone has tried these products before please help me |
| 00:12.49 | drmessano | ~grandstream |
| 00:13.00 | infobot | grandstream is probably the Yugo of VoIP hardware. Run. Run away now.. Though therealcircut says that they're not that bad |
| 00:13.00 | drmessano | awww |
| 00:13.13 | p3nguin | ~gs |
| 00:13.14 | infobot | GrandSuck phones & gateways are cheap junk which should be avoided with extreme prejudice. |
| 00:13.21 | drmessano | ~grandsuck |
| 00:13.26 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 00:14.39 | drmessano | ~grandsuck |
| 00:14.41 | infobot | Yep, now you get it. See ~grandstream |
| 00:20.49 | *** join/#asterisk moy (~moy@CPE001cdfec4cee-CM00080dab8485.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:24.39 | *** join/#asterisk mimamau (mimamau@mimamau.de) |
| 00:30.58 | joobie | guys ive been seeing some brute force attempts lately to my sip server |
| 00:31.09 | joobie | is there a way in asterisk that you can limit the number of sip auth attempts ? |
| 00:31.35 | ChannelZ | You could whack something up with fail2ban |
| 00:32.03 | ChannelZ | Are you really needing to accept SIP from any person on earth that you can't firewall it off? |
| 00:32.40 | p3nguin | Make sure you also have set alwaysauthreject = yes in sip.conf, too. |
| 00:32.45 | joobie | not any person on earth.. but if i lock it down, i need to do some research into the provider's ranges as we have a couple dynamic ips coming in |
| 00:33.26 | p3nguin | Providers almost never have dynamic IP addresses. |
| 00:33.45 | joobie | ChannelZ, i should be able to do something more elegant with iptables thresholds - but is there any native asterisk protection for this sort of thing? |
| 00:33.55 | ChannelZ | they might have multiple but I'd think not dynamic. Unless this is Joe's Tele-phony Service |
| 00:34.07 | joobie | p3nguin, my clients do.. |
| 00:34.13 | p3nguin | You said providers. |
| 00:34.41 | joobie | p3nguin, i mean my client's provider |
| 00:34.56 | p3nguin | Providers almost never have dynamic IP addresses. |
| 00:35.17 | joobie | ChannelZ, ive seen some weird ip allocations .. like competely different A class at times |
| 00:35.26 | p3nguin | Doesn't make a difference if it is YOUR provider or your CLIENT's provider. |
| 00:35.45 | joobie | and the providers are not too forthcoming when you ask them which ranges they use.. ive only been able to work off the whois db so far |
| 00:36.04 | joobie | p3nguin, what the fuck are you talking about? |
| 00:39.33 | *** join/#asterisk seanjohn (~seanjohn@gateways.sheltoncomputers.com) |
| 00:43.46 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (~chatzilla@m121-202-83-195.smartone-vodafone.com) |
| 00:49.25 | *** join/#asterisk joako (~joako@opensuse/member/joak0) |
| 00:50.41 | *** join/#asterisk moy (~moy@CPE001cdfec4cee-CM00080dab8485.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:33.01 | *** join/#asterisk mindCrime (~chatzilla@cpe-075-189-213-049.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 02:02.02 | *** join/#asterisk pinoyskull (~pinoyskul@112.198.64.94) |
| 02:11.27 | *** join/#asterisk obnauticus (~obnauticu@about/windows/regular/obnauticus) |
| 02:32.03 | *** join/#asterisk seeker2921 (~steven@cpe-68-201-46-22.hot.res.rr.com) |
| 02:32.24 | seeker2921 | Hi, I was woundering if anyone in here knew anything about setting up MOH? |
| 02:33.02 | *** join/#asterisk AJ707 (AJ707@S0106001310779db4.vs.shawcable.net) |
| 02:34.13 | Nugget | I just hire illegal aliens to answer calls and sing to callers. |
| 02:34.42 | Nugget | It's cheaper than paying ASCAP licensing fees, but now my hold music is "la cucaracha" |
| 02:34.46 | seeker2921 | Sounds like a plan. Pay them well? |
| 02:39.49 | seeker2921 | perhaps my question isn't interesting enough :) What if I specified it a little bit more. CLI indicates MOH started then imeadiatly says stoped with no MOH sent to person on hold. How do I correct this? any takers? |
| 02:46.19 | pabelanger-lap | seeker2921: CLI output would help, pb it |
| 02:46.47 | seeker2921 | pb? |
| 02:48.59 | WIMPy | ~pb |
| 02:49.00 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , http://asterisk.pastey.net/ , or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
| 02:51.36 | seeker2921 | http://pastebin.com/sPtAi1ci |
| 02:51.38 | ChannelZ | http://burner.com/lacucaracha.wav |
| 02:52.33 | seeker2921 | thats from start of a call placing on hold removing hold and ending call |
| 02:53.46 | ChannelZ | do 'moh show files; |
| 02:54.00 | ChannelZ | minus the ' and ; due to my broken fingers |
| 02:55.37 | seeker2921 | lists the one wav file i have in there and the no music file. only thing is on my wav file it has an extra / infront of the file name |
| 02:57.11 | *** join/#asterisk GameGamer43|Mac (~GameGamer@CPE-65-27-76-78.new.res.rr.com) |
| 02:57.27 | ChannelZ | What does it say for 'Class' and what flavor is the wav? |
| 02:57.54 | seeker2921 | default for class and ulaw for wav |
| 02:58.18 | WIMPy | Does the vaw contain any tags? |
| 02:58.30 | ChannelZ | if it's really ulaw, it should be called .ulaw and not .wav |
| 02:59.23 | seeker2921 | guess its not really ulaw then. the encoder i used says ccitt u-law codec |
| 03:00.07 | ChannelZ | or you mean not really wav. What did you use? |
| 03:01.07 | seeker2921 | the wav does contain info about it when i go to propertys WIMPy ChannelZ I used AVS audio converter |
| 03:01.42 | ChannelZ | ulaw is just ulaw.. it really doesn't have a wrapper. Just make actual .wav files, 16-bit, 8khz, MONO |
| 03:02.00 | ChannelZ | The transcoding penalty to ulaw by asterisk is practically nothing |
| 03:02.13 | WIMPy | I need to remove all tags for Asterisk to play a wav. |
| 03:03.24 | [TK]D-Fender | WAV doesn't have "tags". MP3 does |
| 03:03.41 | ChannelZ | well it can have any number of non-sound data chunks |
| 03:04.01 | ChannelZ | but I'd figure Asterisk's parser should not know what to do with them and just skip them. |
| 03:04.11 | WIMPy | [TK]D-Fender: WAV files don't exist. |
| 03:04.26 | ChannelZ | There is no spoon. |
| 03:05.04 | WIMPy | But RIFF files can perfectely contain a WAVE chunk as well as others. |
| 03:07.38 | [TK]D-Fender | I play all sorts of RIFFS |
| 03:07.43 | [TK]D-Fender | rocks out |
| 03:08.28 | joobie | guys how do i null out the callerid number? |
| 03:08.52 | joobie | I tried Set(CALLERID(num)=) and Set(CALLERID(num)="") , both dont work.. they show up as "asterisk" |
| 03:09.12 | ChannelZ | 0000000000 |
| 03:09.39 | seeker2921 | I re converted the Wav to the settings you satated and removed all tags re uploaded and still no dice. |
| 03:09.41 | ChannelZ | I think it has to be *something* |
| 03:09.52 | seeker2921 | CLI still just says starting moh and then says stoping moh |
| 03:10.16 | mmlj4 | use lame to convert .wav to .mp3 and be happy? |
| 03:10.37 | ChannelZ | if wav doesn't even work for him, mp3 isn't going to help matters |
| 03:10.44 | ChannelZ | Is the call originating on the same system? |
| 03:11.24 | ChannelZ | I'm guessing yes |
| 03:14.26 | seeker2921 | yes it is |
| 03:14.32 | seeker2921 | im testing internal |
| 03:14.55 | ChannelZ | Hmm. Maybe it just doesn't like your taste in music. |
| 03:15.04 | seeker2921 | lol |
| 03:15.12 | ChannelZ | Softphone? Actual phone? |
| 03:15.19 | seeker2921 | soft. 3cx |
| 03:15.47 | ChannelZ | Calling what? |
| 03:16.22 | seeker2921 | extentions and also queues |
| 03:17.10 | ChannelZ | well in your paste SIP/2121 calls SIP/2122 - are they both softphones? |
| 03:17.23 | seeker2921 | yes |
| 03:17.32 | ChannelZ | on different computers or something? |
| 03:18.08 | seeker2921 | 2121 on this system 2122 on android phone also have another softphone on a differnt system with same results |
| 03:19.11 | [TK]D-Fender | ChannelZ: permissions <- |
| 03:19.27 | ChannelZ | Hmm yesh could be, could be |
| 03:19.35 | ChannelZ | It's hard to say in absence of an actual error. I don't think notices are turned on in your console logging. Is this some FreePBX mess? |
| 03:20.14 | seeker2921 | exactly. but ive been using ssh to do most of my stuff. freepbx doesnt seem to work well from what ive seen |
| 03:20.50 | [TK]D-Fender | seeker2921: It works just fine |
| 03:21.30 | seeker2921 | :) |
| 03:22.38 | ChannelZ | if you're in to that sort of thing |
| 03:22.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ChannelZ: I never said I LIKED it, I just said it WORKED. |
| 03:23.45 | ChannelZ | I meant no implication |
| 03:26.03 | [TK]D-Fender | ChannelZ: And I removed all doubt on my similar lack :) |
| 03:26.05 | seeker2921 | Problem fixed. I forgot to reload asterisk after re converting that wav to the settings you said to. works perfectly fine now. thanks for the help guys. |
| 03:27.18 | *** join/#asterisk Mish- (~mish@194.28.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) |
| 03:28.40 | Mish- | I've learnt a lot today, thanks, next question... I want have nearly every number be a "direct dial", eg: right now this "exten => _1.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1}@02825508477,30,r)" means users dial a "1" and then the external nunmber, I'd like to reverse that or just have all calls automatically use the external line (so no "1" is required). |
| 03:28.43 | [TK]D-Fender | KIWI INVASION! Everybody run! |
| 03:29.11 | [TK]D-Fender | Mish-: Then pick a pattern without a prefix |
| 03:29.33 | [TK]D-Fender | Mish-: And consider that there should be a better MINIMUM length |
| 03:31.59 | *** part/#asterisk seeker2921 (~steven@cpe-68-201-46-22.hot.res.rr.com) |
| 03:32.11 | *** join/#asterisk ariel_ (~chatzilla@c-24-127-196-248.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 03:32.16 | *** join/#asterisk knctrnl (~aembrey@user-69-1-12-224.knology.net) |
| 03:40.27 | *** join/#asterisk Sorcier_FXK (~sorcierfx@unaffiliated/sorcierfxk) |
| 03:40.35 | joobie | thanks ChannelZ |
| 03:42.01 | *** join/#asterisk fahmad (~linux@unaffiliated/fahmad) |
| 03:42.39 | *** join/#asterisk ltd_wk (~z@sixified.transact.net.au) |
| 03:48.19 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (~tzafrir@212.179.75.202) |
| 03:53.54 | *** join/#asterisk jasonwert (~w3rt@97-83-98-83.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 04:03.40 | *** join/#asterisk psilikon (~j@71-55.73-24.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 04:04.51 | boodu | bye |
| 04:05.20 | *** join/#asterisk binbash_ (~peter@ip4da5c213.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 04:09.13 | p3nguin | mish-: Do you have variable length phone numbers around there? |
| 04:09.15 | psilikon | I'm looking for a way to access an * box through AMI then get a specific channels RTP. Basically a way to monitor a call without using a sip client. Is this possible? |
| 04:10.39 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: Of course. Only thing I suggeted was a healthy minimum length pattern |
| 04:11.00 | *** join/#asterisk sahafeez (~sahafeez@65-119-47-100.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 04:11.14 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: "monitor" in what sense precisely? |
| 04:11.40 | psilikon | listen to the audio |
| 04:12.32 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Using what? |
| 04:13.00 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: You don't "listen" via AMI, so whats the audio going through? |
| 04:13.51 | psilikon | [TK]D-Fender: not sure yet. Maybe I just capture it to a local file. |
| 04:14.14 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Maybe you should asctually know what you want to do before asking how to do it :) |
| 04:14.47 | drmessano | Hacker |
| 04:16.58 | psilikon | Well what I want to do it eventually figure out a way to record a call without using ZoiperBiz. Since zoiper costs around $45 per seat. |
| 04:18.49 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: So now it isn't LISTEN, it's RECORD. |
| 04:19.01 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Well yes, AMI can trigger that. |
| 04:19.27 | psilikon | How? |
| 04:19.40 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Perhaps you should actually read the AMI command list <- |
| 04:19.51 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: You know it has its own CHAPTER in the book.... |
| 04:21.58 | drmessano | http://cheezburger.com/View/3743943936 <--- I WIN |
| 04:22.21 | psilikon | Right, I am looking at the command list. How would I trigger a recording though? |
| 04:22.49 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Keep reading the list |
| 04:22.57 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Indeed YOU WIN |
| 04:23.34 | *** join/#asterisk Cain (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 04:24.33 | psilikon | Command. |
| 04:25.40 | *** join/#asterisk tehrabbitt-1 (~rabbott56@c-71-59-82-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:27.35 | psilikon | I think i'm going to need this http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Net-SIP |
| 04:28.19 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: What for? |
| 04:29.31 | psilikon | to listen and record the audio from a remote box. |
| 04:30.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ... |
| 04:31.53 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Why on Earth would you need to build your own SIP app for this? |
| 04:32.23 | psilikon | Is there another way? |
| 04:32.34 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: You don't seem to have a grasp of *'s AMI or dialplan app lists. |
| 04:33.01 | psilikon | Listen to a given call and then get the audio back to a remote machine? |
| 04:33.12 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: CHANSPY <- |
| 04:33.54 | *** join/#asterisk soman (~somnath@118.102.130.6) |
| 04:35.45 | psilikon | that just drops a file into the spool dir. I need that file somewhere else and to have that file tagged with some info saying who recorded it. |
| 04:36.42 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Drop a file? You said you wanted to SPY on a channel. Listening involves another device hearing this live. That is another CHANNEl |
| 04:36.59 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: So who said anything about a SPOOL FILE? |
| 04:37.14 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Dial and EXTENSION and tell it to SPY on the other channel |
| 04:37.50 | [TK]D-Fender | [00:35]<psilikon>that just drops a file into the spool dir. I need that file somewhere else and to have that file tagged with some info saying who recorded it. <- and NOW you're talking about RECORDING |
| 04:38.11 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: SPY or RECORD. Make up your friggen mind! |
| 04:38.32 | psilikon | chanspy with 'r' option? |
| 04:38.33 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Totally different |
| 04:39.41 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Is that what you want? recording of your spying only? |
| 04:41.57 | psilikon | If spying means listen to both sides of the conversation then yes. |
| 04:42.42 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: psilikon Of course it does. But you keep mixing the act of SPYING and RECORDING up. |
| 04:43.07 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: And are constantly unclear about if or when those 2 possible event would be SIMULTANEOUS |
| 04:46.47 | carrar | RESPYING |
| 04:47.09 | psilikon | Let me first describe the scenario I am trying to reproduce without paying for software. We use Zoiper biz to dial a specific extension. That extension will "call" into a specific Zap channel. Then the sip client will make a wav file from the audio. Simple right. |
| 04:47.56 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Unclear again. |
| 04:48.07 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: "call into a zap channel"? |
| 04:48.23 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: As in somone else is already USING that channel and you want to SPY on them? |
| 04:48.53 | carrar | SOUNDS ILLEGAL |
| 04:48.56 | psilikon | Yep. I have heard the terms leg and bridge thrown around... maybe one of them applies here |
| 04:49.01 | carrar | I'm reporting you psilikon |
| 04:49.40 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: a call is something NEW. You can't spy on something that doesn't exist yet |
| 04:49.59 | *** join/#asterisk joobie (~joobie@110.23.9.69) |
| 04:50.01 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: So if you want to listen in to an EXISTING CALL, then that is what CHANSPY is for |
| 04:50.41 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: That DIALPLAN APP also has a direct option to record while you're at it. You could also use any of *'s OTHER recording options before calling chanspy as well |
| 04:50.42 | joobie | damn mobile broadband |
| 04:50.44 | p3nguin | wonders if this is an inappropriate time to mention extenspy |
| 04:50.52 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: NO :p |
| 04:51.14 | p3nguin | or mixmonitor? |
| 04:51.20 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: It's never inappropriate to throw in more things to confuse the hapless ;) |
| 04:52.14 | p3nguin | Does automon work during spying? |
| 04:53.06 | p3nguin | Such as call the extension that starts ChanSpy, then hit *1 to activate the automon feature. |
| 04:53.29 | joobie | guys i have a custom billing setup in place to track calls on asterisk.. at the moment, it works by seeing an individual entry in the call log and then does someething with it. In the really odd scenario where a userA in companyA dials userB in companyB, if both companyA and companyB are on the same asterisk box AND if userB at companyB has a divert setup in their dialplan, it will only log one entry in the call log. The divert is just a dial() in userB's d |
| 04:53.29 | joobie | ialplan... |
| 04:54.03 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: Not directly |
| 04:54.20 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: Minor indirect method is easy though |
| 04:54.47 | psilikon | These are great but that leaves the audio on the * box. I need it on a machine that initiated the recording in the first place. |
| 04:54.50 | p3nguin | MixMonitor first, then ChanSpy would be okay if you asked me. |
| 04:55.04 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: .. |
| 04:55.07 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: .... |
| 04:55.12 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: ...... |
| 04:55.27 | p3nguin | I've never recorded with ChanSpy's "r" option. I have to presume it would work, though. |
| 04:55.42 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: Move the file over yourself. |
| 04:56.10 | p3nguin | If you want to record on a remote system, use an application that supports recording on that system. Otherwise, lrn2ntwrk. |
| 04:56.50 | psilikon | [TK]D-Fender: so there are going to be 5-10 people at a time making these recordings. I need to know who made each/ |
| 04:57.42 | [TK]D-Fender | psilikon: So choose how you name your recordings. |
| 04:58.12 | p3nguin | CALLERID() could be helpful in naming them. |
| 05:09.11 | *** join/#asterisk joobie (~joobie@CPE-124-181-130-3.vic.bigpond.net.au) |
| 05:09.26 | joobie | wow 3g is very unstable.. at least this telco is |
| 05:09.41 | joobie | still trying to resolve that above question if anyone has any ideas |
| 05:11.59 | *** join/#asterisk SiNGLer (~singler@81-7-123-162.static.zebra.lt) |
| 05:15.44 | *** part/#asterisk Mythmon (~cooperm@osuosl/staff/Mythmon) |
| 05:20.05 | nosbig | Sorry for the cross-post, but there is almost no one in the #asterisknow channel right now... I can take any followup privately or over to the appropriate channel... So, I just installed AsteriskNOW 1.7.0 on my phone system, and I want to do some paging and conferences. I do not have any dahdi hardware, so I have to use the dahdi_dummy driver, right? I can't seem to find the driver. Am I missing the package containing it, or do I hav |
| 05:20.05 | nosbig | e to compile dahdi myself to grab the module? |
| 05:23.05 | [TK]D-Fender | nosbig: what happens when you modprobe it? What happens when you try actually using the apps? |
| 05:28.49 | nosbig | When I try to modprobe dahdi_dummy, the dahdi module loads, but no dahdi_dummy. I also ran "updatedb; locate dahdi_dummy" with no luck. When I try to use my configured paging extension, the target phone picks up and the call immediately terminates. |
| 05:31.05 | SiNGLer | nosbig: check is dahdi is installed, if it is, edit /etc/dahdi/modules.conf (or something like that), comment out all drivers. restart dahdi startup script. not sure about asterisknox, but on default installation it should help. dahdi_dummy should be loaded automatically |
| 05:33.27 | nosbig | Yes, dahdi-tools, dahdi-linux, and asterisk16-dahdi are installed. Will check on modules.conf |
| 05:34.01 | nosbig | Err... /etc/dahdi/modules |
| 05:35.06 | SiNGLer | maybe, I wrote from memory |
| 05:36.03 | nosbig | Hmmm.... The init script talked about loading dahdi_dummy... Nothing in my modules about it, let me check my page group. |
| 05:36.51 | nosbig | Same result... Dropped call... |
| 05:37.25 | [TK]D-Fender | nosbig: what about meetme? |
| 05:37.25 | SiNGLer | nosbig: wait a sec, I'll check asterisk command to verify hadi_dummy |
| 05:38.08 | nosbig | I'll create a meetme conference and check... |
| 05:39.05 | *** join/#asterisk ranjan (~ranjan@122.172.125.153) |
| 05:39.24 | SiNGLer | nosbig: check "dahdi show status" command |
| 05:39.56 | ranjan | hi all,,,,is it possible to setup asterisk without any hardware with aixmodem?? |
| 05:40.05 | SiNGLer | yes |
| 05:40.16 | SiNGLer | well, I'll need computer/server ;) |
| 05:40.58 | [TK]D-Fender | ranjan: yES |
| 05:41.15 | nosbig | OK. I created a conference and successfully joined my Cisco 7940 and my analog phone on an ATA to the conference and heard both sides of the conversation... |
| 05:41.43 | nosbig | Looks like the base dahdi module provides dahdi_dummy automatically, in lieu of any other hardware being present. |
| 05:41.50 | [TK]D-Fender | nosbig: then DAHDI works fine and you have a differnt problem with your paging |
| 05:43.09 | nosbig | Apparently! I think there was still an issue with dahdi_dummy, but it's clearly working now. |
| 05:43.35 | nosbig | Thanks a bunch! Every time I hit this channel, I always get the answer I am looking for... ;-) |
| 05:44.12 | nosbig | I'll work on the paging problem and figure out what the real problem is and get back if I need anything else. |
| 05:44.52 | [TK]D-Fender | checkout time, later all |
| 05:49.11 | ranjan | [TK]D-Fender, can you please help me |
| 05:50.03 | ranjan | how can we setup asterisk without telphony hardware?? |
| 05:54.43 | p3nguin | Don't connect it to any telephones. |
| 05:55.49 | SiNGLer | ranjan: just install asterisk, and configure it to your needs |
| 05:56.26 | ranjan | SiNGLer, hi my doubt is some what different my i ask?? |
| 05:57.28 | SiNGLer | everything is the same, if you will not use tel hardware, then you just don't configure it |
| 05:57.58 | *** join/#asterisk Sipster (~Sipster@modemcable045.5-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 05:58.10 | ranjan | SiNGLer, just consider that i have a PC and a broadband connection only. Now is it enough to accept calls?? |
| 05:58.12 | SiNGLer | ex if you have ISDN card, then you need to configure to dial via it or accept calls from it, but if you don't have it - then you don't need to set it up :) |
| 05:58.59 | SiNGLer | ranjan: it is, but you'll need to receive calls via ethernet (SIP, IAX, etc) |
| 05:59.30 | ranjan | SiNGLer, ya..thats the problem..:( i doesnt understand that....how is it possible?? |
| 05:59.36 | SiNGLer | if you want to use analog/BRI/PRI/etc you need additional hardware |
| 06:00.16 | SiNGLer | ranjan: some telcos privide service via internet, ex via SIP protocol |
| 06:01.06 | ranjan | SiNGLer, say i have just a broadband connectivity....and what will happen when a call comes??? what device handles the calls?? |
| 06:01.08 | SiNGLer | it's like to connecting your VoIP phone to asterisk |
| 06:02.26 | ranjan | SiNGLer, from where the voip phone came....i have just a PC and a broadband connection...then how?? |
| 06:02.32 | SiNGLer | asterisk handles it. but if your broadband is DSL, and call incomes via that line directly (you have splitter and analog phone) then you need aditional hardware |
| 06:02.59 | *** join/#asterisk richardf (~savag3@173.116.124.202.static.snap.net.nz) |
| 06:04.39 | ranjan | yes my broadband is DSL. |
| 06:05.02 | ranjan | SiNGLer, so with DSL can we call to outside real phones?? |
| 06:06.23 | SiNGLer | on DSL phone line splits at frequency splitter (before modem). If you want to connect analog line to computer, I'll need a converter |
| 06:06.31 | p3nguin | ranjan: Have you read The Book? |
| 06:06.54 | SiNGLer | ranjan: do you have analog phone connected to that line? |
| 06:06.59 | ranjan | p3nguin, which book?? |
| 06:07.01 | p3nguin | ~book |
| 06:07.02 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 06:07.06 | p3nguin | that one. |
| 06:07.31 | p3nguin | Here's another good link: |
| 06:07.34 | p3nguin | ~itsp |
| 06:07.35 | infobot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet Telephony Service Provider (or VoIP telephone company). They allow you to either SEND calls to the PSTN (this is called termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs. |
| 06:07.40 | ranjan | p3nguin, yes...but confused with many terms...the most annoying is the virtual devices. |
| 06:07.52 | ranjan | p3nguin, t38 and IAX |
| 06:08.03 | p3nguin | You don't need telephone hardware if you want to do IAX2 only. |
| 06:08.19 | p3nguin | By telephone hardware, I mean PSTN/POTS devices. |
| 06:08.38 | p3nguin | You'll want some type of phone to make and receive calls, though. |
| 06:08.42 | SiNGLer | I think he wants to utilize his DSL's analog line |
| 06:08.58 | p3nguin | DSL is digital. |
| 06:09.29 | SiNGLer | yes, but on lover freq there is analog line |
| 06:09.34 | SiNGLer | *lower |
| 06:09.51 | p3nguin | Without having telephone hardware, you won't be using analog lines. |
| 06:10.07 | ranjan | SiNGLer, p3nguin actually i am trying to setup a FAX server...and every where this asterisk is coming....for HylaFAX server something like T38modem is available |
| 06:11.35 | SiNGLer | ranjan: how are you planning to receive calls? |
| 06:12.21 | ranjan | SiNGLer, i want to recieve calls using softphones |
| 06:13.14 | SiNGLer | I mean how you'll receive outside call from your telco? |
| 06:13.27 | p3nguin | You have two choices: via telco or via internet connection. |
| 06:13.29 | ranjan | we have hardware phones, here |
| 06:13.54 | SiNGLer | analog? |
| 06:14.18 | p3nguin | If you want calls over the internet connection, see ~itsp above. If you want calls from telco lines, you'll have to get telephone hardware. |
| 06:14.26 | p3nguin | It's as simple as this. |
| 06:14.33 | ranjan | actually i am from india....we have the phone line comming and its connected to a splitter |
| 06:15.02 | ranjan | from splitter one line the RJ11 is connected to the ADSL modem and the other to the telephone |
| 06:15.18 | SiNGLer | then you'll need additional hardware |
| 06:15.44 | ranjan | and if there is calls coming we accept it from the telephone hardware |
| 06:16.10 | ranjan | and now is there any use of an IAX Modem for me?? |
| 06:16.51 | SiNGLer | if you connect that line to asterisk, you'll be able to use IAX modem. but you need hardware to connect line |
| 06:17.58 | ranjan | SiNGLer, oh god...if there is a hardware is there any use of an IAX modem?? |
| 06:18.00 | *** join/#asterisk exothermc (~miles@74.85.89.146) |
| 06:18.28 | exothermc | I have something really odd. After a call hangs up the sip channel is being left open. |
| 06:18.43 | exothermc | any idea why that would be, and how to get those closed out properly? |
| 06:18.56 | exothermc | They will eventually close, but it seems to take about 20-30 seconds. |
| 06:19.09 | SiNGLer | ranjan: you need somehow connect your line to server. One solution is to use hardware, another is to receive additional line via SIP (internet) |
| 06:21.05 | ranjan | SiNGLer, that means if we buy additional hardware [like SIPURA] then the whole scenario changes to just call handling and management and there wont be any participation of VOIP....isnt it? |
| 06:21.41 | SiNGLer | softphones will use VoIP |
| 06:22.23 | ranjan | SiNGLer, but the call is then routed through normal phone line instead of internet no?? |
| 06:24.17 | SiNGLer | yes, call is routed through normal line, but if you connect your line to ex SPA3102 and route it to asterisk, you need to handle it somehow. If line is dedicated to fax, you can route it to IAXmodem, or you can dial o softphone for some time and then to IAXmodem |
| 06:25.00 | SiNGLer | *dial a softphone |
| 06:26.01 | ranjan | the "asterisk" you mentioned here is the software isnt it?? |
| 06:26.36 | SiNGLer | yes, asterisk is software |
| 06:30.18 | ranjan | SiNGLer, is there any way i can keep in contact with you other than IRC...or will you be available here?? |
| 06:35.36 | carrar | mmm penpals |
| 06:39.02 | *** join/#asterisk elred_ (~elred_@unaffiliated/elred-/x-5010831) |
| 06:39.17 | ChannelZ | his Skype name is "whipsNchains" |
| 06:43.43 | *** join/#asterisk dkirker-openmobl (~dkirker@openmobl/ceo/dkirker) |
| 06:44.47 | *** join/#asterisk teknon (~teknon@c-76-97-236-128.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 06:51.14 | *** join/#asterisk mpe (~mpe@94.127.49.1) |
| 06:59.38 | *** join/#asterisk salzh (~chatzilla@61.87.217.242) |
| 07:02.56 | *** join/#asterisk stix (~stix@firewall.o4.dk) |
| 07:10.11 | *** join/#asterisk tzafrir_laptop (~tzafrir@local.xorcom.com) |
| 07:11.44 | *** part/#asterisk patrick-- (~patrick@eos.openroot.de) |
| 07:17.46 | *** join/#asterisk Faustov (~fst@gentoo/user/faustov) |
| 07:25.18 | *** join/#asterisk waschtl (~waschtl@3ed8a58a.d.d9tcloud.de) |
| 07:29.29 | *** join/#asterisk Carlos_PHX (~Carlos@ip68-99-199-10.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 07:32.18 | *** join/#asterisk gavimobile (~user@bzq-84-108-29-62.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 07:33.11 | gavimobile | how can I find out what my localnet ip address is? |
| 07:34.33 | SiNGLer | ifconfig |
| 07:37.24 | gavimobile | SiNGLer: I don't understand... |
| 07:37.42 | gavimobile | what I do understand is that its not my local ip or my wan ip address |
| 07:38.04 | gavimobile | and thoese 2 are listed in ifconfig |
| 07:39.05 | SiNGLer | pastebin output |
| 07:39.07 | *** join/#asterisk Tim_Toady (~moi@62.1.148.74.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 07:40.32 | gavimobile | SiNGLer: |
| 07:40.32 | gavimobile | http://pastebin.org/389855 |
| 07:40.56 | SiNGLer | your local IP is 192.168.2.35 |
| 07:41.36 | gavimobile | yes but is that my localnet |
| 07:41.38 | gavimobile | ? |
| 07:41.51 | SiNGLer | it should be |
| 07:41.52 | gavimobile | for connecting remote sip extentions |
| 07:42.12 | SiNGLer | for connecting sip extensions in lan |
| 07:42.24 | SiNGLer | it will not work via internet |
| 07:43.20 | gavimobile | I want to connect a remote extention |
| 07:43.26 | gavimobile | the remote extention is registered |
| 07:43.55 | gavimobile | I have audio, but my ivr isn't working properly depending on my localnet |
| 07:43.56 | *** join/#asterisk pinoyskull (~pinoyskul@112.198.64.94) |
| 07:44.04 | SiNGLer | how "remote" is the remote extension? |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk fahmad (~linux@unaffiliated/fahmad) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk kuku (~kuku@c-24-13-139-34.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk ichdasich (tfiebig@gallifrey.wybt.net) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk quintana (~sylvain@aghnar.doowan.net) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk Auz (~Auz@pub00.education.com) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk raceme (~tof@ombos.raceme.org) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk brookshire (mbrooks@hijacked.us) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk Joe_CoT (~joecot@pdpc/supporter/active/joe-cot) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk tuxx- (tuxx@vps460.directvps.nl) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk Researcher (~user@unaffiliated/unafilliate) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk fish-bulb (~qcstewart@nat/digium/x-enivusebzyygipzu) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk fors1 (~forsen@pat-tdc.opera.com) |
| 07:44.39 | *** join/#asterisk file (~file@asterisk/developer-and-muffin-lover/file) |
| 07:44.40 | *** join/#asterisk russellb (~russellb@asterisk/digium-open-source-team-lead/russellb) |
| 07:44.40 | *** mode/#asterisk [+oo file russellb] by niven.freenode.net |
| 07:44.45 | gavimobile | how remote... its connected in a different network |
| 07:44.55 | SiNGLer | is connection routed or NATes? |
| 07:44.55 | SiNGLer | *NATed |
| 07:45.01 | gavimobile | nat |
| 07:45.04 | gavimobile | natted |
| 07:45.10 | gavimobile | =nat |
| 07:45.30 | gavimobile | nat=yes |
| 07:45.31 | *** join/#asterisk Milad (~milad@unaffiliated/slackark) |
| 07:45.36 | SiNGLer | tryed setting nat=yes in configuration? |
| 07:45.47 | gavimobile | ^^ |
| 07:46.27 | SiNGLer | what is the exact problem with ivr? |
| 07:46.54 | gavimobile | when localnet is set to 192.168.0.1 ivr doesn't work locally or remotly.. can hear audio but cannot press items #'s in the menu.. when I change it to 192.168.0.2 locally I can press items #'s from the ivr but remotly menu doesn't work |
| 07:47.14 | gavimobile | I just changed localnet to my servers localip and im testing with the remote location.. |
| 07:47.26 | gavimobile | as of now local is workin |
| 07:47.37 | SiNGLer | your localnet is 192.168.2.0/24 |
| 07:47.50 | SiNGLer | is DTMF set correctly? |
| 07:48.11 | gavimobile | I have 3 options for dtmf in my phone O Out Band O In Band O SIP INFO |
| 07:48.54 | SiNGLer | which is shown on "sip show peer peername"? and which is set on phone? |
| 07:49.14 | SiNGLer | afk for a few mins |
| 07:49.50 | gavimobile | dood it works |
| 07:50.00 | tuxx- | zomgz |
| 07:50.01 | gavimobile | with localnet of my localip |
| 07:50.05 | gavimobile | quality is amazing |
| 07:50.14 | gavimobile | sounds like a real conversation |
| 07:50.24 | gavimobile | SiNGLer: |
| 07:50.27 | gavimobile | thanks somuch |
| 07:50.31 | SiNGLer | np |
| 07:50.45 | gavimobile | SiNGLer: so what's with this |
| 07:50.47 | gavimobile | your localnet is 192.168.2.0/24 |
| 07:53.18 | *** part/#asterisk koudaddy1981 (~koudaddy1@76.12.106.100) |
| 07:53.51 | *** join/#asterisk tamiel (~tamiel@213.30.183.226) |
| 07:54.34 | *** join/#asterisk UQlev (~yuriy@212.50.100.76) |
| 07:55.48 | *** join/#asterisk Carlos_PHX_ (~Carlos@ip68-99-199-10.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 07:55.58 | SiNGLer | gavimobile: it inform asterisk what is your local network, there are comments which explains more, basically it is related to NAT treatment |
| 07:57.18 | *** join/#asterisk elred_ (~elred_@unaffiliated/elred-/x-5010831) |
| 07:57.50 | *** join/#asterisk g_r_eek (~g_r_eek@109.178.166.215) |
| 08:10.55 | *** join/#asterisk sekil (~sekil@80.93.247.26) |
| 08:17.46 | *** join/#asterisk gr0mit (~tim@extrt.txrx.org.uk) |
| 08:18.48 | *** part/#asterisk GameGamer43|Mac (~GameGamer@CPE-65-27-76-78.new.res.rr.com) |
| 08:44.59 | *** part/#asterisk TehRabbitt (~tehrabbit@c-71-59-82-2.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 09:01.28 | *** join/#asterisk elred_ (~elred_@unaffiliated/elred-/x-5010831) |
| 09:15.25 | *** join/#asterisk Da-Geek (~Da-Geek@nat/redhat/x-hvzawfzvccispegt) |
| 09:31.39 | *** join/#asterisk Chainsaw (~chainsaw@gentoo/developer/atheme.member.chainsaw) |
| 09:35.18 | *** join/#asterisk Pazzo (~ugelt@reserved-225136.rol.raiffeisen.net) |
| 09:38.36 | *** join/#asterisk ltd (~z@pat.transact.net.au) |
| 09:44.12 | *** join/#asterisk Cain` (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 09:57.07 | *** join/#asterisk creativx (~creadurex@226.62-97-205.bkkb.no) |
| 09:57.43 | *** join/#asterisk UQlev (~yuriy@212.50.100.76) |
| 10:07.19 | *** join/#asterisk sgimeno (~chatzilla@226.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:14.31 | *** join/#asterisk pinoyskull (~pinoyskul@112.198.64.94) |
| 10:16.51 | *** join/#asterisk tlir (~tlir@bzq-82-81-216-19.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 10:40.35 | *** join/#asterisk huye (~huye@soho2.i-xanadu.com) |
| 10:42.24 | *** join/#asterisk chilicuil (~chilicuil@unaffiliated/chilicuil) |
| 10:51.03 | *** part/#asterisk Yoe (~wouter@samba.grep.be) |
| 10:51.36 | *** join/#asterisk puzzled (~foobar@puzzled.xs4all.nl) |
| 11:01.44 | *** join/#asterisk lordmortis (~lordmorti@124-169-101-39.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 11:04.08 | *** join/#asterisk hetii (~Grzegorz@static-87-105-185-199.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 11:05.55 | *** join/#asterisk dkirker-openmobl (~dkirker@openmobl/ceo/dkirker) |
| 11:09.20 | *** join/#asterisk blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:11.02 | *** join/#asterisk blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:19.18 | *** join/#asterisk N|Xgurru (~NXgurru@115.186.34.64) |
| 11:22.14 | *** join/#asterisk Chainsaw (~chainsaw@gentoo/developer/atheme.member.chainsaw) |
| 11:25.04 | *** join/#asterisk leifmadsen (~Leif@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) |
| 11:25.04 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o leifmadsen] by ChanServ |
| 11:30.16 | *** join/#asterisk ruied (~ruied@bl14-153-5.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 11:46.36 | *** join/#asterisk wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-22-226.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 11:50.53 | *** join/#asterisk N|Xgurru (~NXgurru@116.71.191.92) |
| 11:51.55 | *** join/#asterisk Mhaddog (~Mhaddog@z65-50-118-232.ips.direcpath.com) |
| 11:52.50 | *** join/#asterisk ruied (~ruied@bl12-14-119.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 11:53.17 | *** join/#asterisk StuZZZs (~stuart@rabbit.dbplc.com) |
| 11:58.42 | *** join/#asterisk E-bola (~bola@188.120.76.228) |
| 12:00.12 | E-bola | Does asterisk not support delaying sip logon attempts after x amount of failed attempts? |
| 12:00.20 | *** join/#asterisk pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 12:00.20 | E-bola | To prevent bruteforce attacking on the sip account passwords |
| 12:02.25 | puzzled | E-bola: use fail2ban |
| 12:03.54 | *** join/#asterisk ruied (~ruied@bl13-255-84.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 12:04.55 | *** join/#asterisk telnettech (~telnettec@216.49.139.56) |
| 12:05.12 | *** join/#asterisk txwikinger (~quassel@sblug/member/txwikinger) |
| 12:07.28 | E-bola | puzzled: i'd rther not |
| 12:07.38 | E-bola | Asterisk really doesnt support it? I find that extreme |
| 12:08.08 | E-bola | Any system with a possibility of an open login system should by the least have some sort of backoff algo. implemented where it delays longer and longer on failed attempts |
| 12:08.36 | Gugge | what is that system called in openssh? |
| 12:08.48 | puzzled | E-bola: afaik there is no throttling support for that in asterisk. the proper solution is to use iptables or fail2ban |
| 12:09.40 | E-bola | puzzled: thats certainly not the proper solution. Its a patch on a broken system, dont you agree? |
| 12:10.00 | puzzled | no |
| 12:10.16 | E-bola | Gugge: MaxAuthTries 4 |
| 12:10.16 | E-bola | MaxStartups 1:3:6 |
| 12:10.38 | E-bola | puzzled: you think its a good diea to design login logic to require a firewall? |
| 12:10.42 | E-bola | idea even |
| 12:10.47 | puzzled | off course |
| 12:11.10 | E-bola | heh |
| 12:11.17 | puzzled | unless your box is not attached to a network and sits in a bunker 1000 feet under the ground |
| 12:11.56 | E-bola | its a good idea to use a firewall, agreed. Its definately not a good idea to design a login system that can be hamemred 24/7 without being able to do anything about it |
| 12:12.40 | puzzled | what you do about it is let iptables or fail2ban handle that |
| 12:13.08 | puzzled | but feel free to come up with a patch for asterisk that adds throttling support |
| 12:13.32 | E-bola | Yes, that solves the problem. But its obviously a ad-hoc solution, necesary only because its not built into asterisk |
| 12:13.33 | *** join/#asterisk ruied (~ruied@bl14-156-89.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 12:13.51 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~chatzilla@216.191.106.163) |
| 12:14.22 | *** join/#asterisk Mimmus (~viggiani@ext.pitagora.it) |
| 12:14.51 | file | there's a fine line you have to draw between implementing Asterisk and not, otherwise Asterisk would implement tons of stuff that could be better done elsewhere |
| 12:15.22 | file | or rather implementing in Asterisk and not |
| 12:15.22 | *** join/#asterisk Entulho (~foo@201.67.240.55) |
| 12:15.51 | E-bola | file: There's definately a line, but I think most would agree implementing a "back-off" algorythm is both basic and realtively simple to do |
| 12:16.09 | E-bola | and with the pasts months increased asterisk attack, it onyl shows the need even more |
| 12:16.22 | file | in... oh... 6 or 7 years of Asterisk you are the first person that I have ever heard say that |
| 12:16.24 | E-bola | imho |
| 12:16.31 | *** join/#asterisk Trixboxer (~Trixboxer@115.124.115.69) |
| 12:16.36 | puzzled | file: yup |
| 12:17.01 | E-bola | file: Well try to google it, tons of ppl asking for help on blocking these attacks, because its not handled in asterisk internally |
| 12:17.12 | Mimmus | any help with Trixbox or is it better to ask elsewhere? |
| 12:17.22 | file | and tons of people responding to use fail2ban |
| 12:17.41 | E-bola | file: yes, which wuoldnt be necesary if it was handled by asterisk |
| 12:17.41 | puzzled | Mimmus: try #trixbox |
| 12:18.02 | Mimmus | puzzled: @trixbox is empty hihi, ok, no problem |
| 12:19.27 | *** part/#asterisk Mimmus (~viggiani@ext.pitagora.it) |
| 12:19.44 | file | imo I wouldn't waste my own time implementing something that fail2ban already works for, and works well |
| 12:20.16 | puzzled | yup, you use the tools that are designed for the job: fail2ban or iptables |
| 12:20.28 | *** join/#asterisk Nwab (~Benwa@unaffiliated/benwa) |
| 12:20.30 | E-bola | file: I thinkmy point is, the problem is mainly that because its not supported internally by asterisk, it will continue to be a problem |
| 12:20.42 | E-bola | and break ins will be much much higher than if it WAS handled internally |
| 12:20.49 | puzzled | sigh, no it is not a problem if you use fail2ban or iptables |
| 12:20.57 | E-bola | and for me thats a good as reason as any to why it should be in asterisk |
| 12:21.18 | E-bola | puzzled: fail2ban is not part of asterisk, hence its not installed by default, hence see the lines above.... |
| 12:21.29 | WIMPy | sees DOS attacks as a potential problem. |
| 12:21.58 | E-bola | WIMPy: if you conasider DOS attacks a bigger problem than being compromised, the functionality could just be disabled |
| 12:22.05 | puzzled | E-bola: "defaut" is subjective. it's up to the sysadmin to use brain and install the proper tools |
| 12:22.18 | florz | E-bola: your dichotomy is false |
| 12:22.24 | E-bola | puzzled: yes and its uyp to the developer to do what he can to help the users have a secure system |
| 12:22.41 | WIMPy | I mean, that using iptables might block legitimate users as well. |
| 12:23.34 | florz | E-bola: and blocking because of failed authentication is just a security problem, nothing more - in particular, it does not gain you anything |
| 12:23.34 | puzzled | E-bola: sure but it's not up to the devs to add a kitchensink to asterisk just because one person feels it should have a kitchensink |
| 12:23.44 | E-bola | Well security allmost always means potentialuser anoyances in one way or another :) |
| 12:23.50 | WIMPy | Imagine a bunch of users behind a NAT device and someone generationg false login attempts from there. |
| 12:24.21 | E-bola | puzzled: its not one person, its thousands acording to blocks and what not |
| 12:25.00 | E-bola | florz: umm it prevents dictionary and bruteforce attacks? |
| 12:25.13 | E-bola | hence more or less all login system have support for delays |
| 12:25.28 | E-bola | even windows :) |
| 12:25.46 | florz | E-bola: no, they don't - and preventing dictionary and bruteforce attacks does not gain you any security whatsoever |
| 12:26.24 | E-bola | florz: since u cant attempt to guess a password if ur blocked, please explain how it does not prevent them? |
| 12:26.46 | florz | E-bola: and also, you should not confuse delaying the reply to a wrong authentication request with blocking legitimate users |
| 12:27.12 | E-bola | florz: no need o me to convince you of what is common security practice... |
| 12:28.14 | florz | E-bola: your assumptions are broken - if you have passwords that can be broken by dictionary or brute force attack, then that's your security problem, if you don't, blocking won't gain you anything |
| 12:28.41 | E-bola | lol, so you have this secret types of passwords that cant be broken :) Interesting |
| 12:29.10 | E-bola | and even if u have 12342342 char passwords, there's also the question about bandwith consumption |
| 12:29.27 | gr0mit | Faustov, are you here? |
| 12:29.33 | evilbit | so, then use port-knocking or something similar |
| 12:30.47 | florz | E-bola: there is nothing secret about those, it's mere probability theory |
| 12:31.13 | E-bola | florz: and you dont have a password that has 0 percent chance of being broken, so you have no point im afraid |
| 12:31.52 | *** join/#asterisk ariel_ (~chatzilla@63.214.236.169) |
| 12:31.57 | *** join/#asterisk SiNGLer (~singler@81-7-123-162.static.zebra.lt) |
| 12:32.13 | file | it's about reducing the probability that the password could be guessed by some method, of course you can't make it impossible |
| 12:32.20 | florz | E-bola: right, and you change that by a negligible factor by adding an automatic block after failed tries |
| 12:32.36 | florz | E-bola: so you don't have a point either |
| 12:33.02 | florz | of course you can make it impossible - for all practical purposes |
| 12:33.06 | evilbit | well, it's not about the passwords anymore if you are talking about bandwidth consumption and potential DoS from password guessing |
| 12:33.13 | file | using a strong password gets you some, blocking the attempts get you more (still not 0% since given enough IP addresses/machines it could switch to something that is not blocked) |
| 12:33.15 | florz | but automatic block doesn't helo with that |
| 12:34.03 | file | unless you attempted to analyze your traffic, such as formation of SIP packets versus those of equipment you control... that would get you even more |
| 12:34.15 | florz | E-bola: as far as the traffic is concerned: so your point it that blocking the service right away is less of a DoS than having a congested pipe? |
| 12:34.21 | *** join/#asterisk ruied (~ruied@bl14-153-27.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 12:34.24 | *** join/#asterisk rrb3942 (~rbullock@208.34.105.161) |
| 12:34.25 | drmessano | Delaying the inevitable isn't adding more security. You can't argue that any password can be broken then argue adding a delay somehow changes probability |
| 12:34.57 | florz | that's said nicely :-) |
| 12:35.29 | *** join/#asterisk jasonwoot (~some@12.133.48.130) |
| 12:36.03 | file | that's an interesting thought of mine... the packets different SIP stacks generate all have a different 'feel' to their composition... |
| 12:36.15 | *** join/#asterisk rossand (~aross@CPE485b390978ce-CM00159a025ad4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 12:36.25 | drmessano | At that point you're arguing levels of *obscurity*, which is all based in bullshit, wrapped up in unicorns, pixie dust, and dragon farts |
| 12:36.32 | *** join/#asterisk Sipster (~Sipster@modemcable045.5-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 12:36.59 | tuxx- | dragon farts \o/ |
| 12:37.45 | *** part/#asterisk rossand (~aross@CPE485b390978ce-CM00159a025ad4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 12:38.05 | E-bola | florz: blocking an attacker isnt a DOS? |
| 12:39.01 | drmessano | You're denying them service... and in that case, who cares about THEIR bandwidth :) |
| 12:39.21 | E-bola | heh |
| 12:39.21 | florz | E-bola: and just to give you a perspective on your argument: if you use a 20 char alpha-numeric password and let's suppose you can try a trillion passwords a second, then you'd need on average 10 quadrillion years to crack it - what was your argument again? |
| 12:39.48 | drmessano | "My obscurity is bigger than your obscurity" |
| 12:39.52 | E-bola | florz: or it could be the first one you try and it takes a milisecond :) |
| 12:40.13 | florz | E-bola: yes, and in that case your block would help exactly how? |
| 12:40.38 | E-bola | it wouldnt in that case, it would in all the cases where the asteriskuser had chosen a more realistic password |
| 12:40.57 | E-bola | which would be something like 5-8 chars for the avg. user |
| 12:41.14 | E-bola | ohh yes the users is an idiot you say.... thats the technical nerd view of it im afraid.... |
| 12:41.28 | *** join/#asterisk Milad (~milad@unaffiliated/slackark) |
| 12:41.38 | drmessano | E-bola: How do you measure the ROI for the obscurity you put in place when the time it takes to breach security could be anywhere from 1 millisecond to 2 billion years? |
| 12:42.27 | florz | E-bola: the whole point of your blocking mechanism is to block _failed_ authentication attempts - as such, there is no way to "block the attacker", for you can't authenticate "the attacker" and thus be sure that you are not blocking someone else |
| 12:42.28 | E-bola | The point is, since its apparently agreed it makes sense to use fail2ban, i dont see why we should argue if it makes sense to block at all |
| 12:42.28 | *** join/#asterisk bent_screwdriver (~socain00@74.255.249.66) |
| 12:42.41 | drmessano | f it takes you x number of mins to add and configure app x to block y, which consumes x amount of resources, where do you even begin to measure that, where do you measure the time/effort of the hack attempt, and how do you compare the two? |
| 12:42.56 | E-bola | im only arguing whether or not to have the blocking facility built into asterisk or in some 3rd party instance |
| 12:43.05 | florz | E-bola: and no, that is NOT agreed - it's a pretty stupid thing to do, actually |
| 12:43.29 | evilbit | yeah, I can't see why you'd build it into asterisk when you can handle it at a much lower level without consuming as much OS resources |
| 12:43.34 | E-bola | florz: but its common practice in login systems... can you atleast admit that? |
| 12:43.49 | florz | E-bola: no, it's not, therefore I won't admit it |
| 12:43.55 | florz | E-bola: mind to mention an example? |
| 12:44.03 | E-bola | florz: any online bank in the world? |
| 12:44.04 | *** join/#asterisk elred_ (~elred_@unaffiliated/elred-/x-5010831) |
| 12:44.11 | evilbit | it's not all that common, actually... it's more common to setup firewall rules that limit access... not automatically block it |
| 12:44.13 | E-bola | here in denmark online banking is the most common type of login system used |
| 12:44.30 | drmessano | Blocking facilities exist as a feelgood measure of security. It doesn't mean they're even remotely effective |
| 12:44.31 | E-bola | with about 70% of the population using online banking, it doesnt become more common |
| 12:44.36 | drmessano | They _appear_ effective |
| 12:44.38 | E-bola | and every single bank have implemented it (obviously) |
| 12:44.41 | florz | E-bola: erm ... you aren't seriously mentioning _banks_, are you? |
| 12:45.03 | E-bola | so you can see you where wrong now? |
| 12:45.07 | E-bola | please dont start bashing banks |
| 12:45.09 | florz | E-bola: (a) you have noticed that they have the weakes passwords you can imagine? |
| 12:45.37 | florz | E-bola: (b) you also may have noticed that they care a shit about the security of their customers? |
| 12:45.39 | E-bola | florz: you asked for an example? I just gave you a great example, of one of the most common login examples on the web |
| 12:45.45 | drmessano | Telling someone that "3 unsuccessful attempts to access your account results in a lockout for security reasons" is yet another pixie dust feature applications provide to give the appearance some security exists |
| 12:45.52 | E-bola | i dont give a **** what you thinkof banks |
| 12:46.00 | E-bola | point is its obviously common practice |
| 12:46.09 | E-bola | or take windows |
| 12:46.20 | drmessano | E-bola: Common practice doesn't mean shit. Case in point: People use Windows |
| 12:46.22 | E-bola | most used OS in the world, been a feature of their login system for as long as i can remember |
| 12:46.30 | file | because people interact at that level |
| 12:46.30 | E-bola | drmessano: thats not the point |
| 12:46.32 | drmessano | Windows is how secure? |
| 12:46.38 | E-bola | point right now is he said its not common |
| 12:46.49 | florz | E-bola: well, OK, I accept that it's common practice with institutions who don't care about availability to their customers - your point being? |
| 12:46.52 | E-bola | so untill he can see he was wrong, we arent getting anywhere :( |
| 12:47.12 | E-bola | florz: and those institutions are the norm ? |
| 12:47.14 | file | it's not a person interacting with the SIP stack, it's an application that has been configured and most likely not by the user (in case of a legit authentication) |
| 12:47.21 | drmessano | [08:46] <E-bola> point is its obviously common practice <--- Meaningless |
| 12:47.51 | file | in the case of a banking system it's a person interacting and performing the logic process, where that information is valuable to them so they know wth is up |
| 12:47.53 | file | (at least imo) |
| 12:47.58 | florz | E-bola: well, OK, I shouldn't have gotten into that argument - yes, I accept that the majority of people are just morons when it comes to security. Now, back to our original argument? |
| 12:48.19 | E-bola | florz: that actualy makes another good point :) |
| 12:48.36 | E-bola | So if majority of people are morrons, they wont know to create secure passwords if they try to install asterisk? |
| 12:48.51 | E-bola | pr are the asterisk users "special" and much wiser? |
| 12:48.54 | E-bola | pr=or |
| 12:48.57 | [TK]D-Fender | Some people take a long time to make their point(less) |
| 12:48.58 | file | I knew you would say this |
| 12:49.05 | file | I _knew_ it |
| 12:49.06 | drmessano | Putting any weight into "Common practice" is the weakest argument I have heard this year. "Common practice" changes constantly when we determine "common practice" was WRONG. Case in point: Thalidomide |
| 12:49.12 | E-bola | file: because its true? |
| 12:49.34 | [TK]D-Fender | E-bola: Venn FAIL. |
| 12:50.11 | florz | E-bola: no, but that's their problem, still - it's hardly a good argument to add a DoS vulnerability for those who do know what they are doing in order to almost not protect at all those who don't |
| 12:50.14 | E-bola | Btw. let me know if somebody wants me to shutup, or thinks im trolling or whatever. But this is a serious concern im trying to convey |
| 12:50.22 | [TK]D-Fender | wondered where that new crack dispensary opened up... |
| 12:50.41 | E-bola | florz: i guess thats where we agree. I find a compromised sip account multitudes more serious than a DOS |
| 12:50.46 | E-bola | disagree even :) |
| 12:51.03 | florz | E-bola: THEN USE PROPER PASSWORDS, damn! |
| 12:51.04 | drmessano | If I had a website with an authentication applet that stated "After 3 failed password attempts, this magic egg in the corner of your screen will crack", 99% of end users would consider that a security feature |
| 12:51.56 | [TK]D-Fender | [08:50]<florz>E-bola: no, but that's their problem, still - it's hardly a good argument to add a DoS vulnerability for those who do know what they are doing in order to almost not protect at all those who don't <- flipped a double negative. Having a DoS vulnerability isn't "almost not protect" it is "not protect" or "almost protect" (assuming it did do at least MORE) |
| 12:51.57 | florz | E-bola: but don't suggest that by default it should be possible for anyone on the internet to lock out my upstream provider from my pbx "for security reasons" |
| 12:52.20 | drmessano | E-bola: Nobody thinks you're trolling or not being serious, I think we just all agree your logic is incorrect and your examples make no sense |
| 12:52.21 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: *g* |
| 12:52.53 | E-bola | florz: If the majority agrees with you, then its simply having the autolockout disabled by default. If the majority agrees with me have it enabled by default? So thats not really a good arghument imho |
| 12:53.55 | florz | E-bola: so, your point is then that it should be disabled by default - so that people who are stupid enough to not use secure passwords will be able to switch it on? |
| 12:54.24 | drmessano | florz: They'll be smart enough to switch it on, after setting their password to '12345'. yes. |
| 12:54.25 | florz | E-bola: and this is not democracy - this is about provable security probabilities |
| 12:54.45 | florz | drmessano: yeah, indeed, hadn't thought about that ... =:-) |
| 12:55.03 | *** join/#asterisk ccesario (~ccesario@189-29-60-113-ac.cpe.vivax.com.br) |
| 12:55.31 | florz | E-bola: just because some uninformed majority agrees on something, that doesn't make reality agree with their agreement |
| 12:56.01 | E-bola | drmessano: Obviously i would argue it shoudl be switched on by default, as i just said. |
| 12:56.02 | drmessano | If we're so worried about users setting weak passwords, how would ANY delay mechanism help? |
| 12:56.28 | E-bola | drmessano: you really dont understand how delays work? |
| 12:56.28 | drmessano | Wouldn't '123' be pretty easy to guess BEFORE any security would kick in? |
| 12:56.36 | florz | E-bola: so, you do suggest that by default it should be possible for anyone on the internet to lock out my upstream provider from my pbx "for security reasons"? |
| 12:56.43 | drmessano | Wouldn't the person with '123' as their password be your target? |
| 12:56.51 | drmessano | How would this help again? |
| 12:57.00 | E-bola | florz: why would ur upstream provider by allowed for any IP? Thats a weird config |
| 12:57.04 | E-bola | so no i dont agree |
| 12:57.05 | drmessano | E-bola: I completely understand how they work |
| 12:57.13 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (~chatzilla@m121-202-92-218.smartone-vodafone.com) |
| 12:57.29 | florz | E-bola: you obviously don't even understand how broken your suggestion is |
| 12:57.34 | E-bola | on the other hand, do i think dynamic ip users, shoudl be locked out if somebody tries to break into their account? Yes i do |
| 12:57.37 | drmessano | E-bola: You don't seem to understand the probabilities and scenarios presented here. Your examples are weak, and lets not get personal. |
| 12:57.40 | evilbit | wonders what channel he's in, lol |
| 12:57.55 | *** join/#asterisk Arsenick (~y@modemcable230.231-70-69.static.videotron.ca) |
| 12:57.56 | file | evilbit: security does this. |
| 12:58.11 | florz | E-bola: the whole point is that those tries are _UNAUTHENTICATED_ |
| 12:58.17 | *** join/#asterisk Banad (~banad@pool-74-101-134-245.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:58.21 | E-bola | drmessano: Im not being personal, i sincely asked if u know how they work, since even the weakest password is better protected if there are delays involved |
| 12:58.23 | florz | E-bola: so, you cannot block "an attacker" |
| 12:58.33 | florz | E-bola: all you can do is block "an ip address" |
| 12:58.38 | Banad | My trunk registers with my provider just fine, I haven't had any trunk issues except one: It won't stay up for more than 3 days without requiring me to reload |
| 12:58.50 | E-bola | florz: when i say lcoked out, i mean lock the sip account so it can not be used, not be the real user, nor the attacker |
| 12:58.52 | Banad | Is there a keepalive that I can set or some other way to keep the trunk from dropping off? ? |
| 12:59.23 | drmessano | E-bola: Not true. A weak password has a higher probability of being guessed, PERIOD. You CANT CHANGE PROBABILITY by adding a DELAY to the process. That is why your logic is broken here. |
| 12:59.28 | florz | E-bola: ok, so we are talking about sip accounts, not ip addresses? |
| 12:59.43 | Banad | i have tried with qualify=yes but nothing |
| 13:00.45 | E-bola | drmessano: Thats completely wrong. If u get blocked after 5 failed attempts, you have 5 attempts to guess a weak password. Even guessing a 3 chat password in 5 attempts arent precisely easy. So i, seriously and sincere, dont see your point |
| 13:01.22 | E-bola | florz: well its 2 sides of the same thing. I'd love to see either "lock out" supported |
| 13:02.15 | drmessano | E-bola: No, you can guess that same password in ONE ATTEMPT.. or TWO.. OR THREE.. You're working off some broken assumption that a password is going to be guessed in a finite number of attempts, which is horribly and dangerously incorrect. You are not and can not change *probability*. |
| 13:02.31 | [TK]D-Fender | [08:58]<florz>E-bola: so, you cannot block "an attacker" [08:58]<florz>E-bola: all you can do is block "an ip address" <- Mostly... that would depend on having another means of identifying them more uniquely. SIP does have a mans or two of doing this. Let me know if you can find one :) |
| 13:02.52 | Banad | Is there a keepalive that I can set or some other way to keep the trunk from dropping off? |
| 13:03.06 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: "qualify=yes" |
| 13:03.09 | tuxx- | qualify=yes |
| 13:03.12 | Banad | i have tried with qualify=yes but nothing |
| 13:03.12 | tuxx- | meh |
| 13:03.13 | tuxx- | :D |
| 13:03.24 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: well, yeah, but nothing that would be more difficult to fake ;-) |
| 13:03.43 | *** join/#asterisk brad_mssw (~brad@shop.monetra.com) |
| 13:03.55 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: You don't need a keep-alive for your provider. YOU are most likely the one dying off due to other misconfigurations. |
| 13:04.09 | [TK]D-Fender | bandSo describe your setup in proper detail. |
| 13:04.14 | E-bola | drmessano: a password CAN be guess in a finite number, however that ofcourse doesnt mean u cant get it right in the first try. However what you fail to realize is that statistics say there will be an avg. amount of attempts to guess it. And that avg. is far great than the amount of attempts it takes to get locked out. Does that make breaking in when delays blocking is suopproted impossible? |
| 13:04.28 | E-bola | No ofcourse not, but it makes it statistically alot less likely, even with weak passwords |
| 13:04.34 | drmessano | E-bola: Ok, so how many attempts will it take to guess MY BANKING PASSWORD? |
| 13:04.37 | WIMPy | wonders how many solutions could have been created during that "argument"... |
| 13:04.37 | drmessano | My current one |
| 13:04.45 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: Its a question about having something consistent to compare. Figured one out yet? :) |
| 13:04.51 | drmessano | I want a finite number |
| 13:05.00 | E-bola | drmessano: depends on how maky chars it is |
| 13:05.04 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: how do you mean` |
| 13:05.05 | florz | ? |
| 13:05.22 | Banad | My trunk registers with my provider just fine, I haven't had any trunk issues except one: It won't stay up for more than 1 day without requiring me to reload asterisk |
| 13:05.35 | drmessano | E-bola: So if I told you I had a 10 character banking password, you could tell me EXACTLY how many attempts it is going to take to guess it? |
| 13:05.42 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: SIP UA <- Unless the UA changes you can count the UA itself as being bad. |
| 13:05.45 | drmessano | Not statistically, but as a single finite number? |
| 13:05.54 | Banad | After 1 day of flawless operation the trunk goes down and people can't call in to me. I check and the trunk isn't registered, and doesnt read as registered with the provider. I do a reload and bam, registers fine. So it's like it registers once and then it times out at some point. |
| 13:06.00 | E-bola | drmessano: ofcourse not, why do you say that? |
| 13:06.02 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: ?!? |
| 13:06.13 | E-bola | drmessano: i just told you that you can calculate the avg. amount of times it will take to break it |
| 13:06.25 | E-bola | times=tries |
| 13:06.33 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: mind you that leaves the MIM style attacker to continue and possibly lock out the legit phone even. But it is technicall a means of doing so |
| 13:06.47 | drmessano | E-bola: NO, you can NOT.. You can tell me that STATISTICALLY a 10 character password made up of X and X will take X amount of time to guess, but you cannot tell me if it will be as long as the longest period or on the first attempt |
| 13:06.52 | drmessano | Give me a break |
| 13:06.54 | *** join/#asterisk Akiraa (~Akira@92.81.184.40) |
| 13:07.12 | E-bola | drmessano: no but you can say what the avg. period would be |
| 13:07.15 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: pastebin the SIP DEBUG of your registration attempts to your provider |
| 13:07.15 | *** join/#asterisk jhirley (~jhirley@mail.mmdlaw.com) |
| 13:07.17 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 13:07.18 | infobot | [~pb] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://bin.cakephp.org/ , http://asterisk.pastey.net/ , or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
| 13:07.18 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: I still don't get what you are up to - I mean, yeah, of course you can block by the user agent, but what is your point? |
| 13:07.18 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
| 13:07.20 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
| 13:07.21 | E-bola | its pretty basic statistics .... |
| 13:07.34 | Banad | http://pastebin.com/W3Z1csCK |
| 13:07.50 | [TK]D-Fender | florz: My point is that is a means of more uniquely identifying an ATTACKER than claiming the source IP :) |
| 13:08.02 | drmessano | E-bola: *Statistically*.. which means nothing. A lockout mechanism based on statistics will fail 100% of the time |
| 13:08.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: not what I asked for |
| 13:08.19 | E-bola | drmessano: umm no it wont fail 100% of the time, lol thats sort of the point :) |
| 13:08.27 | E-bola | But it mgiht fail some of the times |
| 13:08.35 | Banad | yeah i see |
| 13:08.46 | Banad | but i cant replicate the problem now bcz i just reload it |
| 13:08.50 | Banad | its now registered |
| 13:08.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: So reload SIP <- |
| 13:09.08 | Banad | but when it fails is says something like 105 Auth Sent |
| 13:09.09 | E-bola | It will fail 100% of the times if the attacker has an infinite amount of time to attack. Which he ofcourse does not |
| 13:09.25 | drmessano | E-bola: Of course it will. Because no mechanism to guess a finite number based on a statistic exists, unless you're from some alien civilization or came back from the future to bring us this wonderful technology |
| 13:09.30 | [TK]D-Fender | \banaAnd you showed me a PEER ENTRY. that is not even a piece of what I asked for |
| 13:09.50 | [TK]D-Fender | [09:09]<Banad>but when it fails is says something like 105 Auth Sent <- Show. Me. The. SIP. DEBUG. |
| 13:09.55 | Banad | yes i know but i just reload it and now the trunk its registered |
| 13:10.02 | Banad | i cannot replicate the problem |
| 13:10.18 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: I didn't ask you to jsut show me what looked bad THEN. |
| 13:10.31 | drmessano | E-bola: This is simple high school math. Seriosuly. |
| 13:10.34 | Banad | how ? |
| 13:10.35 | E-bola | drmessano: you lost me, and yourself too i think :) Its pretty simple: by using delays it takes longer, on average, to guess a password |
| 13:10.38 | drmessano | and *seriously* too |
| 13:10.43 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: Show me a CURRENT ATTEMPT. I don't care if it worked or not, I want to see how it is FORMED |
| 13:10.54 | Banad | how to do that |
| 13:11.02 | drmessano | E-bola: No, I am quite well aware of where I am. Maybe you need to research this a bit more :) |
| 13:11.09 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: Enable SIP DEBUG. Copy. PASTE. |
| 13:11.27 | E-bola | drmessano: maybe ask your self why pretty much ALL login systyem deploy delay support :) |
| 13:11.36 | E-bola | or are everyone else stupid? :) |
| 13:12.03 | [TK]D-Fender | E-bola: In varying degrees... YES :) |
| 13:12.16 | [TK]D-Fender | E-bola: Everyone falls to "stupid" at some point or another. |
| 13:12.20 | E-bola | [TK]D-Fender: I can always trust in you to speak your mind :P |
| 13:12.32 | [TK]D-Fender | E-bola: Everyone is entitled to my own opinion :) |
| 13:12.40 | drmessano | E-bola: Maybe you should listen to what is being discussed here and learn something, rather than basing your argument on smoke and mirror security practices that are statiscally proven to fail :) |
| 13:12.40 | Banad | http://pastebin.com/BHb20VHe |
| 13:12.54 | Banad | is that fine <[TK]D-Fender> that is the Trunk |
| 13:13.15 | E-bola | drmessano: TO be honest i prefer to trust my cryptology classes back at uni. and basic security implementation knowledge over an irc channel :) |
| 13:13.18 | drmessano | E-bola: Seriously, "everyone else is doing it" is a pretty silly argument :) |
| 13:13.21 | *** join/#asterisk SiNGLer (~singler@81-7-123-162.static.zebra.lt) |
| 13:13.32 | *** join/#asterisk [Outcast] (~anonymous@64.202.62.5) |
| 13:14.07 | E-bola | drmessano: its not my argument for whty its right. I just have a need to try and convince you of something thats more or less universally accepted. It being universally accepted should hint something to you, unless you think you've found a flaw in what everyone else is doing |
| 13:14.16 | E-bola | do not have a need even |
| 13:14.24 | drmessano | E-bola: Actually, you're basing it on the fact that your bank, everyone elses bank, and Windows does it, so it must be correct.. which I think they taught us about in Kindergarten :) |
| 13:14.49 | E-bola | drmessano: no im trying to convince you faster, by showing you its universally accepted as the truth |
| 13:14.58 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: on a larger scale just about ALL "security" fails, because security is a process, not a technology. Fail2ban, etc are methods to slow the attacks and attempt to build up blocks while perhaps giving just enough time to a legit person to statistically fix their problem before locking themselves out. Thats why safes (the vault kind) are rated by how LONG it can keep an attacker off <- |
| 13:15.30 | drmessano | E-bola: Again, doesn't make it correct. We've discussed that here this morning, and some valid points were made against it. Maybe you should re-read them :) |
| 13:15.46 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Security means pulling the power cord :p |
| 13:15.52 | drmessano | lol |
| 13:15.54 | Banad | <[TK]D-Fender> |
| 13:16.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: Who are you registering to? |
| 13:17.04 | [TK]D-Fender | [09:13]<drmessano>E-bola: Seriously, "everyone else is doing it" is a pretty silly argument :) <- the argument yes, but perhaps not the action itself. |
| 13:17.07 | E-bola | drmessano: i can definately see lots of reasons why some dont want blocking/delays. For me the positive sides just outweigh the negatives |
| 13:17.17 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: But again, I could guess a safe combination on first try... or any try beyond that. It only means if I follow some statistically common pattern I am more likely to not guess the combination. |
| 13:17.40 | Banad | http://pastebin.com/5QV6Yccc |
| 13:18.16 | E-bola | drmessano: so you dont think they should put locks ont he safes at all, because it can only delay the theif? :) |
| 13:18.25 | E-bola | Thats sort of a funny thought :P |
| 13:18.28 | Banad | Any idea ? |
| 13:18.32 | drmessano | E-Bola: Where did I say that? |
| 13:18.34 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: You could, but with a huge largely mixed password using the full scope of what is possible, and limiting the number of failures per address and then blocking off that address... what are the odds? |
| 13:19.09 | florz | [TK]D-Fender: about the same as leaving out the latter two |
| 13:19.09 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: True they COULD get it right the first time, but "hsU7sS623ySas" isn't a likely first or 3 MILLIONTH guess <- |
| 13:19.10 | E-bola | drmessano: Just trying to lighten the mood :) |
| 13:20.07 | Banad | <[TK]D-Fender> |
| 13:20.10 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: so 208.87.3.206:5060 xxxxxxxx 105 Auth. Sent Mon, 12 Jul 2010 01:28:25 <- this is the one bad guy and the others are always fine? |
| 13:20.18 | florz | E-bola: you do understand how you proposal opens the opportunity for easy DoS attacks? |
| 13:20.25 | Banad | Yes |
| 13:20.32 | Banad | the rest are fine |
| 13:20.40 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: And I asked who they WERE as in the NAME. Who runs it. |
| 13:20.42 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: But it's not likely the LAST GUESS either, or the NEXT TO LAST... or or.. that's the problem with statistics and basing anything on them. You're either right or wrong 100% of the time :) |
| 13:20.54 | Banad | Nettalk |
| 13:21.17 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: No... the last guess is usually the right one because they record that they succeeded :) Unless... they get blocked off before they succeed. |
| 13:21.44 | drmessano | I guess I meant.. the LAST GUESS of your x number of probabilities |
| 13:22.14 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: So lets say 10 in 50 million odds of getting it right before the door is permanently slammed in their face. |
| 13:22.29 | *** join/#asterisk [sr] (~Unknowned@pa8-84-91-197-8.netvisao.pt) |
| 13:22.31 | [sr] | howdy |
| 13:22.39 | [sr] | people, one thing that i don't know if it possible |
| 13:23.22 | [sr] | can i redirect one call based on DID to two extensions? eX: |
| 13:23.22 | WIMPy | "Anything is possible" |
| 13:23.31 | [sr] | hi WIMPy :) |
| 13:23.42 | [sr] | exten=>234222222,1,Dial(SIP/aaa) |
| 13:23.54 | [sr] | exten=>234222222,2,Dial(DAHDI/1) |
| 13:23.54 | Banad | is there a way to resend the Auth if it fails or something ? |
| 13:24.09 | [sr] | and make SIP extension and dahdi channel ring at same time? |
| 13:24.13 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: But in this case, we're slamming the door for x period and then reopening it for more guesses. Landshark? |
| 13:24.17 | *** join/#asterisk clintc (~clintc@n128-227-83-171.xlate.ufl.edu) |
| 13:24.21 | E-bola | florz: Yes i understand that it opens up a huge opportunity for dos attacks |
| 13:24.54 | WIMPy | [sr]: You didn't read too much about Dial() parameter, I guess... Time for the Book. |
| 13:25.11 | drmessano | ~book |
| 13:25.11 | infobot | [~book] Asterisk: The Future of Telephony 2nd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51048-9) --- Order yours at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510480/ --- Free downloadable PDF at http://www.asteriskdocs.org --- HTML at http://astbook.asteriskdocs.org or see ~buybook |
| 13:25.21 | [sr] | WIMPy: no i admit, just wanna to know if it is possible 1st |
| 13:25.24 | drmessano | [sr]: Didn't we discuss this 3 or 4 times? |
| 13:25.38 | *** join/#asterisk chuckf (~chuckf@ubuntu/member/chuckf) |
| 13:25.58 | drmessano | [sr], Yes, it's possible.. Probably on page 2 that discusses Dial() |
| 13:26.42 | [sr] | thank you, i'm going to read that part then :) |
| 13:27.39 | Banad | <[TK]D-Fender> any ideas |
| 13:27.49 | [sr] | WIMPy: remember i talk about the extra bell? this wall i'll make it work with a FXS card |
| 13:27.53 | [sr] | wall=way |
| 13:28.42 | florz | E-bola: so, you do not think anymore that you can "block the attacker"? |
| 13:28.46 | WIMPy | Expensive solution |
| 13:29.06 | drmessano | waits for it |
| 13:29.18 | [sr] | WIMPy: ya but.. that's the one i have till now.. i've searched on google and saw that are some SIP bell's... that is nice |
| 13:29.25 | [sr] | but there few info about it |
| 13:30.24 | [sr] | this one if anyone's interested: http://www.algosolutions.com/products/Audible-and-Visual-Alerting/8180-sip-audio-alerter/specifications.html |
| 13:32.24 | *** join/#asterisk stix (~stix@firewall.o4.dk) |
| 13:32.42 | *** join/#asterisk lirakis (~lirakis@ool-ad022bb1.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 13:33.29 | E-bola | florz: ummm? Ofcourse i KNOW i can block the attacker, by blocking the ip thats attacking me. Ur just trying to insist on terms etc. I ofcourse meant to block the address of the attacker when i say block the attacker |
| 13:34.02 | florz | E-bola: even that is not correct |
| 13:34.15 | florz | E-bola: the internet does not allow you to authenticate "the address of the attacker" |
| 13:34.18 | *** join/#asterisk fofware (fabian@190.225.12.163) |
| 13:34.28 | florz | E-bola: all you can do is to block the source address on the requests |
| 13:34.31 | E-bola | why would i need to authenticate it? |
| 13:34.39 | E-bola | yes and doing that blocks the attacker |
| 13:34.48 | E-bola | are u simply referring to the fact that it might block others than the attacker? |
| 13:34.49 | florz | E-bola: NO, IT DOES NOT! |
| 13:35.47 | florz | E-bola: it blocks any requests having that source address |
| 13:35.47 | E-bola | *sigh* it blocks the ip he's currently using |
| 13:35.47 | florz | there is no such thing as "the ip he is currently using" |
| 13:35.47 | florz | there is just the source address of the request |
| 13:35.47 | Banad | <[TK]D-Fender> any ideas friend ? |
| 13:35.48 | E-bola | and he's using that.... |
| 13:36.04 | florz | you can not establish any reliable connection between "an attacker" and "the source address of a request" |
| 13:36.16 | florz | that is, you can not authenticate the attacker |
| 13:36.19 | E-bola | i dont need to |
| 13:36.35 | E-bola | i can block the "source address of a request" and the attack most likely stops |
| 13:37.02 | florz | unless you accept the fact that you thus allow anyone to block any requests from any ip address they like |
| 13:37.31 | E-bola | florz: so your saying you can spoof any address you like when u send traffic to me? |
| 13:37.42 | florz | be it from your upstream provider, your most important customer, whoever ... |
| 13:37.50 | florz | WELL, _YES_! |
| 13:37.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: Reliably Transmitting (NAT) to 208.87.3.206:5060: <---- THEY are not behind NAT. |
| 13:38.02 | E-bola | florz: cool can you proove that? |
| 13:38.12 | florz | E-bola: sure, where do you want to get the packets to? |
| 13:38.30 | E-bola | florz: can i pm it to you? |
| 13:38.47 | drmessano | Are we asking someone to prove they can spoof an IP address? |
| 13:38.57 | florz | E-bola: (with the exception of some you locally block from outside networks, of course) |
| 13:39.00 | evilbit | well, in the case of udp it's trivial to spoof a src ip address... in the case of tcp you need a handshake so it's much more difficult outside of a local network |
| 13:39.13 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: And it is looking like they OK your reg's |
| 13:39.35 | florz | E-bola: sure, just PM it |
| 13:39.35 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: 145 |
| 13:41.06 | *** join/#asterisk Katty (~Katty@mail.copi-rite.com) |
| 13:44.46 | *** join/#asterisk jmacz (~jmacz@190.144.75.22) |
| 13:45.01 | Banad | 145 ? |
| 13:45.40 | *** join/#asterisk eliel (~eliels@201.234.94.226) |
| 13:46.01 | Banad | 208.87.3.206:5060 xxxxxxxx 105 Registered Mon, 12 Jul 2010 08:44:48 --> Yeah Look When I Reload |
| 13:46.08 | *** join/#asterisk pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 13:46.36 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: Ok, the rest looks sane. So far if it works with everyone else it's looking like its the remote end that has issues |
| 13:48.18 | [sr] | WIMPy: a cheaper solution and easier: http://www.voipsupply.com/voip-adapters/single-fxs |
| 13:48.18 | Banad | Ok good so i will call them and ask whats going on... |
| 13:48.34 | WIMPy | What about using the PC? |
| 13:48.45 | Banad | but regarding the keep alive if you see the registration time it tried to do at one time and it didnt try to it again ... |
| 13:48.48 | Banad | that is my question |
| 13:51.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: IIRC * will keep trying indefinitely unless you tell it otherwise |
| 13:53.53 | Banad | ok thanks very much |
| 13:53.55 | *** join/#asterisk putnopvut (~putnopvut@asterisk/master-of-queues/mmichelson) |
| 13:53.57 | Banad | for your help :) |
| 13:54.02 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o putnopvut] by ChanServ |
| 13:54.29 | [TK]D-Fender | Banad: You're welcome |
| 13:55.33 | Katty | morning my pretties |
| 13:59.57 | raden | morning Katty |
| 13:59.59 | *** join/#asterisk UQlev (~yuriy@212.50.100.76) |
| 14:01.11 | *** join/#asterisk jpeeler (~jpeeler@asterisk/developer/jpeeler) |
| 14:04.22 | *** join/#asterisk pabelanger (~pabelange@yoda.kanatek.com) |
| 14:04.54 | *** join/#asterisk The_Boy_Wonder (~vossel@asterisk/batman-developer/dvossel) |
| 14:06.05 | *** join/#asterisk arpu (~arpu@chello062178159144.10.14.univie.teleweb.at) |
| 14:09.03 | *** join/#asterisk moy (~moy@UNVLON55-1176057127.sdsl.bell.ca) |
| 14:10.05 | Katty | hugs on raden |
| 14:15.43 | raden | hows katty today ? |
| 14:16.23 | raden | bbl |
| 14:20.51 | *** join/#asterisk `Sauron (sauron@dsl001-130-033.aus1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 14:24.10 | [sr] | brb |
| 14:29.04 | *** join/#asterisk iCEBrkr (~icebrkr@cyberdyne.org) |
| 14:30.09 | *** join/#asterisk SuPrSluG (~SuPrSluG@host-64-179-106-158.ind.choiceone.net) |
| 14:30.15 | *** join/#asterisk eject_ck (~eject_ck@85.223.182.86) |
| 14:32.40 | *** join/#asterisk suvir (~chatzilla@ppp-124-120-135-177.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 14:33.25 | *** part/#asterisk suvir (~chatzilla@ppp-124-120-135-177.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 14:34.47 | *** join/#asterisk tecnico (~tecnico@75.76.169.148) |
| 14:35.53 | *** join/#asterisk Naikrovek (~jjohnson@unaffiliated/naikrovek) |
| 14:36.15 | *** join/#asterisk Ryushin (proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) |
| 14:38.06 | *** join/#asterisk hugorebelo (~hugo@200-171-132-124.completo.com.br) |
| 14:40.32 | *** join/#asterisk geemee (~ocs@mailhost.exterity.com) |
| 14:40.36 | *** join/#asterisk p3nguin (gpz5GvdFkf@cpe-0210-4bff-fe2b-9074.dhcp.a2infotech.com) |
| 14:41.56 | geemee | Hi Folks. I have a virtual machine running trixbox. If I were wanting to move to anothery physical machine can I simply backup the old config, new install of trixbox on the physical machine and "restore" the backup on the new physical machine? |
| 14:42.36 | beek | ~trixbox |
| 14:42.36 | infobot | well, trixbox is SH1TB0X. Basically a CRAPPY, closed-source distro. STAY AWAY! |
| 14:43.12 | geemee | beek? that bad? Works OK. I know people have different likes hates but why so bad? |
| 14:43.33 | beek | geemee: Probably, assuming that you account for any new telephony interfaces you add. This channel is not freepbx/trixbox friendly so you're likely to get better answers. |
| 14:43.51 | beek | s/answers./answers elsewhere./ |
| 14:44.57 | *** join/#asterisk wcselby (~wcselby@208.180.112.123) |
| 14:44.59 | wcselby | o/ |
| 14:46.26 | drmessano | trixbox is the Windows Vista of Asterisk distros, only it comes completely loaded with spyware and is far less stable. |
| 14:46.36 | Naikrovek | yes |
| 14:46.36 | wcselby | lol |
| 14:46.44 | Naikrovek | no one will disagree with you on that |
| 14:46.51 | Naikrovek | i use trixbox and i hate it |
| 14:46.55 | Naikrovek | i inherited it |
| 14:46.56 | wcselby | i've had some clients use it that it works really well for them |
| 14:47.07 | wcselby | what kind of spyware does it have? |
| 14:47.15 | drmessano | wcselby: Fonality is well aware of how well it works for them |
| 14:47.21 | Naikrovek | it does work really well, it's capable, stable, and all that, but when it breaks. oh boy |
| 14:47.24 | drmessano | wcselby: Fonality is well aware of what they ate for breakfast too |
| 14:47.41 | wcselby | they use it with aastra phones, and there's the cool aastra phone xml scripts that they use |
| 14:47.52 | wcselby | drmessano - interesting |
| 14:48.14 | drmessano | wcselby: Fonality has a history of adding little bits and pieces to trixbox for collecting "statistics" without anyones consent |
| 14:48.18 | Naikrovek | drmessano: you'd be better off deploying asterisknow if you can |
| 14:48.30 | Naikrovek | it's much simpler |
| 14:48.43 | drmessano | I roll my own FreePBX boxes when needed |
| 14:48.53 | Naikrovek | asterisknow = centos + asterisk + freepbx |
| 14:49.01 | drmessano | I wrote a few of the commonly used/quotes install guides |
| 14:49.07 | drmessano | I'm well aware |
| 14:49.09 | Naikrovek | trixbox = centos + asterisk + freepbx + tons of custom scripts |
| 14:49.12 | drmessano | quoted |
| 14:49.21 | Naikrovek | ah |
| 14:49.22 | Naikrovek | nice |
| 14:49.26 | drmessano | trixbox doesn't include FreePBX |
| 14:49.33 | Naikrovek | oh here we go |
| 14:49.36 | drmessano | It includes a FORK from way back |
| 14:49.36 | Naikrovek | fine |
| 14:49.39 | Naikrovek | fork |
| 14:49.47 | Naikrovek | to the user it's freepbx |
| 14:50.11 | [TK]D-Fender | FORK YOU! |
| 14:50.18 | drmessano | Except it only looks like FreePBX and under the hood is very different now |
| 14:50.23 | drmessano | But whatever |
| 14:50.27 | beek | geemee: Aren't you glad you asked? |
| 14:50.28 | geemee | trixbox here: uptime 186 days no problems. Curious about spyware. I am open to pure asterisk |
| 14:50.37 | geemee | can of worms :) |
| 14:50.53 | drmessano | No different than Ubuntu being the same as Windows. It looks about the same, so it has to be |
| 14:50.54 | [TK]D-Fender | geemee: No... more like "Tremors" :p |
| 14:51.04 | wcselby | drmessano - got a link for your quoted freepbx install guide? |
| 14:51.25 | drmessano | http://www.2l2o.com/how-to/asterisk-without-tricks |
| 14:51.29 | wcselby | i've had some people ask me for one, but I haven't seen one I liked... |
| 14:51.41 | geemee | I might go into a ubuntu forum and ask about why my computer is asking for windows genuine activation |
| 14:51.47 | drmessano | Its similar to ones found a few other places, but that's the actual working copy I update regularly |
| 14:51.57 | wcselby | drmessano - ahhh, very nice, thanks :) |
| 14:52.01 | Naikrovek | anyone used a polycom kirk system? what handset did you use? |
| 14:52.10 | Naikrovek | need a loud handset (for use in loud environments) |
| 14:52.17 | *** join/#asterisk Talirk81 (~Talirk@rrcs-97-79-213-78.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 14:52.20 | wcselby | Naikrovek - then you need a Scotty handset, not a Spock |
| 14:52.23 | drmessano | asterisk-without-tricks being a rip on trixbox, of course |
| 14:52.26 | drmessano | From way back when |
| 14:52.27 | wcselby | sorry, /trekhumor |
| 14:52.31 | Naikrovek | not a kirk |
| 14:52.33 | Naikrovek | lol |
| 14:53.49 | Talirk81 | On asterisk 1.4 I have agi script with "-rwxr-xr-x 1 asterisk asterisk 4784 Jul 12 09:45 RecordingManager.php" permissions but even with agi debugging set to on I only see the dialplan line not the TX/RX lines you woudl expect if the agi script was running and channel data was sent to STDIN. Anyone on have any ideas ( running it manually doesnt causes any errors even as asterisk user) |
| 14:54.01 | geemee | So.. Since trixbox isnt liked.. What is the concensus here? for an small office with remote sip users? Asterisk now? |
| 14:54.07 | geemee | or simply just asterisk? |
| 14:54.16 | wcselby | Talirk81 - AGI debug only runs in the native asterisk console |
| 14:54.25 | Talirk81 | thats what i was in |
| 14:54.26 | wcselby | or at least, that used to be the case, I'm not sure if that still applies |
| 14:54.34 | wcselby | tty-9? |
| 14:54.57 | Talirk81 | but for say localprefix you see something like <SIP/7006-00000186>AGI Tx >> agi_request: fixlocalprefix |
| 14:54.58 | drmessano | geemee: This channel is generally for non-GUI installs of Asterisk.. more focused on the engine itself. But most would agree AsteriskNOW is the GUI ISO install to use if that's your ball of wax |
| 14:55.17 | Talirk81 | but nothing at all shows on my custom agi being called via the AGI() dialplan app |
| 14:55.34 | wcselby | Talirk81 - do you even see the AGI() command in the cli output? |
| 14:55.37 | geemee | drmessano - thanks for your input. I will try asterisknow and "pure" asterisk. |
| 14:55.48 | Talirk81 | -- Executing [s@macro-dialout-trunk:17] AGI("SIP/7006-00000186", "RecordingManager.php|Command:GetOutboundDialCustomerCallID|Data:9185202047") in new stack |
| 14:55.51 | wcselby | or do you see asterisk sending all of the TX >>> stuff to begin with? |
| 14:55.57 | Talirk81 | but not TX/RX's :( |
| 14:56.08 | geemee | drmessano: sorry, finally skype integration? |
| 14:56.12 | wcselby | then you're not watching the right console |
| 14:56.31 | Talirk81 | well later int he same call they are showing for fixlocalprefix |
| 14:56.33 | wcselby | you're physically at the box, not watching through a terminal session or putty / whatever? |
| 14:56.39 | Talirk81 | so i highly doublt that wcselby |
| 14:57.08 | Talirk81 | re: ssh vs console both, and the full log shows the same issue |
| 14:57.21 | wcselby | Talirk81 - pastebin the entire call attempt |
| 14:57.30 | *** join/#asterisk BANSAL (~bansal@117.199.114.170) |
| 14:59.00 | [TK]D-Fender | geemee: FreePBX isn't made to handle that channel type yet IIRC |
| 14:59.03 | Talirk81 | http://www.pastebin.ca/1899026 killed when it dialed out since im trying to do that before ... its line 38 vs line 70 |
| 15:00.29 | *** join/#asterisk p3nguin_ (gpz5GvdFkf@cpe-0210-4bff-fe2b-9074.dhcp.a2infotech.com) |
| 15:00.55 | wcselby | Talirk81 - try taking out the .php from the command? I dunno, it seems like you should get an error or something, at the least... |
| 15:01.45 | Talirk81 | yeah i also checked my shebang and that was the right path for php , very odd i would have expected atleast a line like exited 255 or something if it was failing to run the agi command |
| 15:02.35 | wcselby | i meant, change the line from AGI(RecordingManager.php|...) to AGI(RecordingManager|...). I don't know if that will help or not, but worth a shot |
| 15:03.30 | Talirk81 | well i used .php's all the time in the past but trying it |
| 15:04.21 | wcselby | i don't mess with php agi, and i've only done a little perl agi. it'd be better if someone else around here who has more AGI experience could help..... |
| 15:04.44 | Talirk81 | nope thats not it |
| 15:05.01 | Talirk81 | its not really a phpo agi, its just agi seems to not actually be calling the external script |
| 15:05.22 | wcselby | Talirk81 - i agree |
| 15:05.26 | wcselby | it seems odd |
| 15:05.37 | Talirk81 | if it was it should say -- <SIP/7006-00000186>AGI Script RecordingManager completed, returning 0 (or 255) |
| 15:07.25 | Talirk81 | btw changing the name didnt help at all... [TK]D-Fender do you have any ideas why a AGI app call wouldnt show it doing a nything when in agi debug mode not starting the agi or returning a agi completed status code |
| 15:11.46 | *** join/#asterisk wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-22-226.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 15:12.45 | *** join/#asterisk p3nguin (gpz5GvdFkf@cpe-0210-4bff-fe2b-9074.dhcp.a2infotech.com) |
| 15:16.29 | Talirk81 | ahh i figured it out |
| 15:16.45 | Talirk81 | asterisk 1.6 doesnt like | it want , for the parma seperator in AGI() |
| 15:16.50 | Talirk81 | thats annoying |
| 15:17.05 | WIMPy | No that's 1.4 :-) |
| 15:18.43 | Talirk81 | yeah i just which it would have had an deprectated or error catcher for it |
| 15:19.05 | Talirk81 | aka "Hey dummy dont use | use , now" |
| 15:24.50 | WIMPy | Might have been in 1.4. |
| 15:25.23 | wcselby | that's only in 1.6.2 |
| 15:25.31 | wcselby | 1.6.0 i think gives the warning |
| 15:25.50 | *** part/#asterisk geemee (~ocs@mailhost.exterity.com) |
| 15:26.23 | *** join/#asterisk astassistant (~skip@216.160.91.91) |
| 15:30.52 | *** join/#asterisk krion (~seb@unaffiliated/krion) |
| 15:33.33 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (~jon@69-179-99-17.stat.centurytel.net) |
| 15:33.39 | *** join/#asterisk FILLVAIO3 (~v_agarkov@79.165.89.20) |
| 15:34.34 | FILLVAIO3 | Hi Guys! Does anybody can explain me how to use * in dialplan if i want to dial *200XXXXX ? |
| 15:34.51 | FILLVAIO3 | is there any example? |
| 15:34.51 | *** join/#asterisk KermitTheFragger (~KermitThe@118-197.bbned.dsl.internl.net) |
| 15:35.08 | ChannelZ | yes. Use * |
| 15:35.39 | ChannelZ | _*200XXXXX |
| 15:36.38 | FILLVAIO3 | exten => _*200XXXX,1,Dial(SIP/801,20) ? |
| 15:36.42 | p3nguin | ~dialplan patterns |
| 15:36.43 | infobot | dialplan patterns are explained here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Dialplan+Patterns |
| 15:36.51 | p3nguin | fillvaio3: ^^^^^^^^^ |
| 15:37.39 | ChannelZ | if you want people to dial a bunch of digits to reach SIP/801, sure. |
| 15:40.16 | [TK]D-Fender | ChannelZ: He just asid he wanted to be able to dial it. Not any implication of what to do with the number once matched |
| 15:41.01 | ChannelZ | Yeah he did. <FILLVAIO3> exten => _*200XXXX,1,Dial(SIP/801,20) ? |
| 15:41.50 | ChannelZ | wanders off to work |
| 15:47.16 | FILLVAIO3 | exten => _*200XXXXXXX,1,Set(CALLERID(all)=myname<200>) |
| 15:47.16 | FILLVAIO3 | exten => _*200XXXXXXX,n,GoTo(outgoing,${EXTEN:4},1) |
| 15:47.21 | FILLVAIO3 | what's wrong? |
| 15:55.49 | *** join/#asterisk p3nguin (gpz5GvdFkf@cpe-0210-4bff-fe2b-9074.dhcp.a2infotech.com) |
| 15:56.35 | FILLVAIO3 | nobody knows? |
| 15:57.17 | evilbit | what's the question? |
| 15:57.57 | WIMPy | guesses the correct answer would be: "Depends on what you try to do." |
| 15:58.25 | Naikrovek | you're using *200 to dial out? |
| 15:59.57 | p3nguin | Why the hell would anyone with a bit of sanity do that? |
| 16:00.33 | FILLVAIO3 | it's must be some function for dialout, i need to trim *200 then dial only XXXXXXX number |
| 16:00.36 | p3nguin | Just dial the number you want to reach. Period. |
| 16:01.25 | Naikrovek | eh some people need to dial something first, for whatever reason |
| 16:01.32 | p3nguin | It's not a function, it's just a way of parsing a variable. ${EXTEN:4} would be the number, offset 4 chars (skip the first 4). |
| 16:01.44 | p3nguin | No they don't -- they just THINK they do. |
| 16:03.54 | Naikrovek | well if you have 1000 users and they all think they need to dial *200 to go out of the company it's going to take some time to turn that around |
| 16:04.13 | Naikrovek | so, he could already have a more direct dialplan entry set up, that doesnt' require it |
| 16:04.29 | Naikrovek | but the fools who think they need *200 are complaining |
| 16:04.34 | FILLVAIO3 | i have saparate lines to dialout. but only one libe in my phone. I anytime i want to dialout from special line, i want to dial *200 where 200 is my dialout line, then phonenumber |
| 16:05.00 | Kobaz | FILLVAIO3: your system should figure it out for you... unless you really do need direct access |
| 16:05.19 | Kobaz | 9XXX.. and be done |
| 16:05.24 | Naikrovek | people make voip far more complicated than it needs to be |
| 16:06.15 | p3nguin | People make most things more complicated than they need to be. |
| 16:06.35 | Kobaz | people are more complicated than they need to be |
| 16:06.49 | FILLVAIO3 | ok guys, is it possible or not? |
| 16:07.12 | Kobaz | FILLVAIO3: yeah it's possible.... just about anything is possible.... the real question is... "should i" |
| 16:07.14 | WIMPy | FILLVAIO3: What? |
| 16:07.27 | p3nguin | It's possible for all of us that already told you how to do it, but it is not possible for you, apparently. |
| 16:07.32 | *** join/#asterisk idespinner (~idespinne@cpe-76-93-115-243.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 16:07.36 | Naikrovek | why be mean |
| 16:07.50 | Naikrovek | the _*200XXXXXXX should do it |
| 16:08.04 | Naikrovek | (and the {EXTEN:4} bit of course) |
| 16:09.26 | FILLVAIO3 | Call from '101' to extension '*2002281227' rejected because extension not found. |
| 16:09.26 | *** join/#asterisk Tim_Toady (~moi@62.1.148.74.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 16:09.45 | p3nguin | '*2002281227' does not exist within the context you are dialing. |
| 16:09.59 | FILLVAIO3 | exten => _*200XXXXXXX,n,GoTo(outgoing,${EXTEN:4},1) |
| 16:10.14 | p3nguin | Where's priority 1? |
| 16:10.23 | Naikrovek | he pasted it earlier |
| 16:10.26 | Naikrovek | he sets callerid with it |
| 16:10.27 | p3nguin | Set caller id? |
| 16:10.30 | p3nguin | alright. |
| 16:10.32 | FILLVAIO3 | exten => _*200XXXXXXX,1,Set(CALLERID(all)=myname<200>) |
| 16:11.04 | p3nguin | What context is this extension in? |
| 16:11.11 | wcselby | FILLVAIO3 - is that code contained within a context that your phone has access to when making a call? |
| 16:11.15 | p3nguin | What context is set for the phone which you are dialing FROM? |
| 16:11.58 | p3nguin | Those two factors are probably where the problem is. |
| 16:12.14 | FILLVAIO3 | if i delete * from context and change {EXTEN:4} to {EXTEN:3}, everything work fine |
| 16:12.50 | wcselby | FILLVAIO3 - please pastebin your extensions.conf, your sip.conf, and the full failed call from the CLI |
| 16:12.55 | *** join/#asterisk radic (~radic@178.2.216.183) |
| 16:13.12 | *** join/#asterisk Martinblr (~Miranda@61.12.17.170) |
| 16:13.18 | Martinblr | does asterisk supports stun? |
| 16:13.23 | radic | is it possible to use wildcards in gotoif()? |
| 16:14.49 | radic | Martinblr: you have a dynamic IP? |
| 16:15.07 | Martinblr | radic: yes |
| 16:15.36 | radic | Martinblr: and no dynDNS domain?! |
| 16:15.38 | FILLVAIO3 | <wcselby> which lines could i paste for you? |
| 16:15.55 | wcselby | all of them |
| 16:16.01 | Martinblr | radic: i dont have dynDNS |
| 16:16.42 | radic | Martinblr: why not? |
| 16:17.22 | Martinblr | radic: there is no permission for us to have dynDNS in our network |
| 16:18.11 | FILLVAIO3 | ok, thanx. i will try themself. i can't publish my dialplan with all information in it |
| 16:18.25 | *** join/#asterisk tkonto (~tkonto@cpe-77-83-136-10-dsl.netone.gr) |
| 16:18.34 | radic | Martinblr: but you have access to the router to configure the port-forwarding needed for sip?! |
| 16:18.46 | Kobaz | Corydon76-dig: you can create a table without columns |
| 16:19.02 | wcselby | FILLVAIO3 - lol, okay then, if you don't know what needs to be posted etc.... |
| 16:19.02 | evilbit | does anyone happen to have the asterisk woman's voice saying something along the lines of "...log into queue..."? |
| 16:19.11 | evilbit | or is that something I should order |
| 16:19.29 | *** join/#asterisk outtolunc (~me@adsl-66-218-53-172.dslextreme.com) |
| 16:19.32 | evilbit | hmm, I wonder if they include generic, useful stuff like that in upgrades. that would be cool |
| 16:20.05 | Naikrovek | you can order recordings from her |
| 16:20.13 | Martinblr | radic: yes |
| 16:20.17 | tkonto | hello... good place to ask a trivial dialplan question? |
| 16:20.23 | Naikrovek | tkonto: yep, ask |
| 16:20.38 | *** join/#asterisk Faustov (user@gentoo/user/faustov) |
| 16:20.48 | drmessano | OMG: we're doing trivia now? |
| 16:21.23 | xheliox | tkonto: Yes, don't ask to ask. :) |
| 16:21.27 | tkonto | Naikrovek: how to I dial any combination of digits between 3 and 9 in total? lol!!! |
| 16:21.29 | Qwell | drmessano: You rang? |
| 16:21.35 | *** join/#asterisk CunningPike (~CunningPi@204.239.8.157) |
| 16:21.46 | drmessano | AsteriskNOW question. I will ask in there |
| 16:21.46 | *** join/#asterisk dkirker-openmobl (~dkirker@openmobl/ceo/dkirker) |
| 16:21.53 | tkonto | t |
| 16:21.57 | tkonto | thank you |
| 16:22.07 | FILLVAIO3 | wcselby: thank you anyway |
| 16:22.16 | Naikrovek | tkonto: that's quite a range of digits |
| 16:22.35 | tkonto | the best I did, was to include all ranges.. |
| 16:22.46 | *** join/#asterisk SiNGLer (~singler@78-60-54-125.static.zebra.lt) |
| 16:22.54 | tkonto | but this is the correct way? |
| 16:23.26 | *** join/#asterisk mintos (~mvaliyav@nat/redhat/x-zoakvdwzuesvhtcp) |
| 16:24.03 | tkonto | like (xxxSO|xxxxS0|xxxxxS0|xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxS0|) |
| 16:25.29 | *** join/#asterisk jmacz (~jmacz@190.144.75.22) |
| 16:29.20 | drmessano | You don't need the S0 |
| 16:29.58 | Qwell | Yes. SOs are overrated. |
| 16:30.28 | Nugget | ATS0=1 |
| 16:31.16 | *** join/#asterisk lowlevel (~Stuart@lowlevel.ca) |
| 16:31.32 | drmessano | (xxx|xxxx|xxxxx|xxxxxx|xxxxxxx|xxxxxxxx|xxxxxxxxx) would work |
| 16:32.04 | drmessano | or (*x.|x.) would handle 1+ digits, with or without a * prefix |
| 16:32.12 | drmessano | Just a small timeout delay |
| 16:32.36 | drmessano | I am assuming you're referring to a Linksys device, based on what you typed |
| 16:34.18 | *** join/#asterisk scalex000 (~chatzilla@190.166.185.61) |
| 16:34.38 | scalex000 | hi everybody |
| 16:34.54 | scalex000 | I have a problem with iax, but I dont know how to resolve |
| 16:34.54 | tkonto | drmessano: thank you very much |
| 16:35.46 | *** join/#asterisk knarfly (~vlad@c-98-242-233-74.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 16:37.00 | scalex000 | I make a connection between to point 1 behind nat, the point is not behind a NAT after sometime lost connection |
| 16:39.50 | knarfly | I have a log entry in my Master.csv file which shows some calls were dialed from SIP/113.105.152.102. So I do a whois on 113.105.152.102 and find it's an IP in China. This caller appears to have used my asterisk server to dial a number in the UK. I don't see how this could have happened unless they gained access to my asterisk server somwhow...Any advice would be appreciated. |
| 16:40.40 | xheliox | knarfly: Have you read the BESTPRACTICES readme and made sure you're not doing any of that? |
| 16:40.57 | [TK]D-Fender | knarfly: You allowed unauthed calls into your system |
| 16:41.07 | [TK]D-Fender | knarfly: pastebin your extensions.conf |
| 16:41.13 | xheliox | And if you're not sure how it happened, I'm not sure you have any business having an Asterisk box directly connected to the Internet. |
| 16:41.14 | knarfly | xheliox: where do I find that |
| 16:41.27 | p3nguin | More importantly, you allowed unauthed calls back OUT. |
| 16:41.50 | knarfly | xheliox: nice attutude |
| 16:42.14 | xheliox | In the parent directory of the Asterisk source is one place. |
| 16:42.36 | xheliox | knarfly: It's true. I'm starting to wonder who is worse. The hackers/scammers/phishers or the idiots who give them the tools to do it. |
| 16:42.48 | knarfly | xheliox: if you're not aware that not everyone runs linux then I'm not sure you have any business offering advice |
| 16:43.36 | *** join/#asterisk CunningPike (~CunningPi@204.239.8.157) |
| 16:45.26 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: Where did he say "directly connected to the internet", and where did you define what that requires to fit the definition? |
| 16:46.22 | xheliox | [TK]D-Fender: Fair enough, a bit of a presumption on my part. |
| 16:46.50 | knarfly | xheliox: it must have been up your arse, right where your attitude is....my asterisk server is not directly on the internet, only a dummy would do that right...and i don't run linux so I don't compile from source |
| 16:46.56 | drmessano | It's not directly connected to the internet, you idiot, there's a surge protector in line! |
| 16:47.05 | p3nguin | hahahaha |
| 16:47.28 | xheliox | [TK]D-Fender: And I'd define it as someone who has no additional security or authentication (VPN) or even a based IP ACL on one or more ports forwarded to the Asterisk boxes IP. |
| 16:47.32 | [TK]D-Fender | knarfly: and my PC at home runs linux and I don't compile from source on it either... and? :) |
| 16:48.01 | xheliox | What on earth does this have to do with Linux? |
| 16:48.27 | p3nguin | And what's the problem with connecting things directly to the internet? |
| 16:48.40 | xheliox | p3nguin: Nothing if you read the documentation and understand the risks. |
| 16:48.44 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: Then you are saying that anyone with any peer that isn't IP locked (this kills remote phones typically) is "bad". |
| 16:49.06 | *** join/#asterisk nny (~nny@64.203.239.83) |
| 16:49.27 | xheliox | No. I'm saying anyone who doesn't understand the potential risks and take some action to prevent being exploited is "bad". |
| 16:49.30 | p3nguin | I fail to see any difference between directly connected and not directly connected... both have connection, both allow things in and out. |
| 16:49.49 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: Yeah, you should see this coming... true enough |
| 16:50.12 | p3nguin | It's not like NAT is some type of security device. |
| 16:50.19 | *** join/#asterisk Linuturk (~linuturk@unaffiliated/linuturk) |
| 16:50.27 | p3nguin | If you choose to connect directly, configure your netfilter. |
| 16:50.29 | nny | interested in paying someone to rewrite the chan_sip source code to not do "state : Ringing" in notifications. any other method is also acceptable, trying to remove flashing BLF on ringing on my phones, phones do not support ignoring the notification. |
| 16:50.34 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: there is a general assumption that more maky be exposed due to incompetance by having a complete public interface right on the box vs jsut a few ports forwarded from an outer router |
| 16:50.42 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: then again that is the presumption |
| 16:50.48 | xheliox | p3nguin: Sure. But if you say have a VPN (just as an example) at least that's one additional layer of security they'd have to defeat before cracking your uber security username of 200 and password of 200 with an allow ACL of all. :P |
| 16:50.49 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: Not inherently true |
| 16:51.28 | xheliox | Or a dialplan injection because you use _X. and ${EXTEN} |
| 16:51.31 | xheliox | without any filter |
| 16:51.31 | drmessano | What about a completely exposed Vista box with Asterisk running in cygwin? |
| 16:51.47 | xheliox | drmessano: That just makes baby Jesus cry. |
| 16:52.09 | drmessano | xheliox: What about long-haired, bearded Jesus? |
| 16:52.20 | xheliox | I admit I throttled this guy before knowing all the facts, but anyone want to bet I'm closer to right than wrong? |
| 16:53.03 | *** join/#asterisk anthm (~anthm@freeswitch/developer/anthm) |
| 16:53.24 | *** join/#asterisk pinoyskull (~pinoyskul@112.198.64.94) |
| 16:53.33 | drmessano | $3 says his router has a default password and his luggage has 12345 for the combo. Not sure about Asterisk |
| 16:53.37 | *** join/#asterisk aidinb (~Aidin@wsip-98-190-45-225.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 16:53.42 | nny | heh never thought about the dialplan injection. |
| 16:53.57 | xheliox | drmessano: He cries too, he just waits until everyone has gone home. |
| 16:54.20 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: So what you're saying is I should shoot you on the assumption your a bad person and then maybe see about proving it later? :)_ |
| 16:54.24 | xheliox | nny: Yeah.. why would you, it's not like it was a published security advisory and the one of the most obvious files in the source tree. ;) |
| 16:54.56 | xheliox | [TK]D-Fender: No, I admit I was wrong. I should have waited for him to prove that my assumption was right. :) |
| 16:55.15 | nny | yeah, just interesting, I suppose someone could make inject system calls using System with that kind of open non filtered incoming pipe |
| 16:56.16 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: Better! I always make sure to give people enough rope... that makes sure the drop is far enough when I tug ;) |
| 16:56.57 | knarfly | xheliox: there are two kinds of problem solvers in the world...those that solve problems and those that point out what idiots they are surrounded by....the later very rarely solves problems. |
| 16:57.23 | [TK]D-Fender | knarfly: PM. Glaring mistake on your side. 2nd PB requested |
| 16:57.23 | drmessano | There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't. |
| 16:57.46 | xheliox | knarfly: I'm capable of both, just sick to death of the idiots. TK asked you to show us your dialplan, have you done that? Or do you want to argue over what a jerk I am? |
| 16:57.56 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Only 3 kinds of people in the world, those that understand math, and those that don't |
| 16:58.03 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: He has |
| 16:58.08 | drmessano | lol |
| 16:58.11 | *** join/#asterisk Linuturk (~linuturk@unaffiliated/linuturk) |
| 16:58.16 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: And we're moving on to step 2. I've got this one |
| 16:58.20 | xheliox | Oh? I guess I was too busy berating him to see it. |
| 16:58.45 | drmessano | I would like to argue over what a jerk you are.. for $200, Alex |
| 16:58.56 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Only 2 kind fo people in the world, those that understand ADHD, and those that ... oooohhh look, a KITTY! |
| 16:59.00 | [TK]D-Fender | scampers off |
| 16:59.07 | drmessano | lol |
| 16:59.10 | xheliox | We don't really need to argue it, I conceed the point. I over reacted. Sorry knarfly. |
| 16:59.24 | *** join/#asterisk Ad-Hoc (~nimbus@62.1.167.9.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 16:59.47 | drmessano | So I don't get the daily double? |
| 16:59.57 | Kobaz | [TK]D-Fender: kitty or katty |
| 16:59.58 | wcselby | you can always get the daily double |
| 17:00.04 | [TK]D-Fender | xheliox: We're onto linguistic and mathematical humour. Your issue is like soooo ... 5 minutes ago! |
| 17:00.09 | xheliox | lol |
| 17:00.39 | [TK]D-Fender | BASE 13 BITCHES. LEARN IT! |
| 17:02.18 | drmessano | What is that joke.. Why do programmers get Halloween and Christmas confused? Because OCT31=DEC25 |
| 17:02.28 | Kobaz | haha |
| 17:03.31 | knarfly | xheliox: let me get this straight....you rip someone for having an asterisk server and not know how to use it then you want that same idiot to paste sensitive information to you....yeah right dude! |
| 17:03.59 | russellb | drmessano: that's awesome |
| 17:04.25 | [TK]D-Fender | rmAlso! |
| 17:04.28 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: ^ |
| 17:04.30 | drmessano | Dialplan isn't sensitive info. It's expected in here. If your dialplan is so sensitive, please pastebin the Waiver of Liability first |
| 17:04.58 | xheliox | drmessano: I'm just waiting for [TK]D-Fender to msg me and tell me how right on target I was. |
| 17:05.07 | [TK]D-Fender | knarfly: Nothing you showed me is "sensitive". It is however TELLING of your situation. |
| 17:05.13 | drmessano | I'm also going to need to consult my attorney, my accountant, and my priest |
| 17:05.20 | [TK]D-Fender | knarfly: Analysis provided, now go fix it :) |
| 17:05.29 | drmessano | IN TRIPLICATE! |
| 17:06.05 | knarfly | drmessano: Let me clue use guys into another point about this channel. 99% of all attempts to hack into my asterisk server occur while I'm on line....I guess a right click and an IP address are just too tempting a target for some people in this channel. |
| 17:06.39 | drmessano | knarfly: I am always tempted. Please don't go, just yet |
| 17:06.46 | Kobaz | which is why i don't irc from a box that really does anything |
| 17:08.37 | xheliox | knarfly: I said I was sorry, I presumed to much. You can now continue be bitchy about my premature rant or you can accept the help being offered to you. You're in good hands with TK. |
| 17:08.55 | drmessano | You can also prevent SIP attacks by using IAX2, exclusively. I think Digium gets $.000002 per call |
| 17:09.42 | xheliox | knarfly: You just have to understand that it's frustating when people don't understand that having an insecure Asterisk box can result in massive amounts of fraud. |
| 17:09.43 | russellb | o.O |
| 17:10.01 | drmessano | Ok ok.. THAT WAS A JOKE |
| 17:10.12 | [TK]D-Fender | or WAS IT... |
| 17:10.14 | drmessano | Digium does NOT get $.000002 per call for IAX2 calls made |
| 17:10.16 | russellb | drmessano: congrats btw :-) |
| 17:10.17 | *** part/#asterisk tkonto (~tkonto@cpe-77-83-136-10-dsl.netone.gr) |
| 17:10.20 | knarfly | yes, I do understand sir, that is why I came here for advice. |
| 17:10.21 | Nugget | drmessano: not with my server, I pirated the open source IAX2 library. |
| 17:10.25 | drmessano | russellb: Thanks! |
| 17:10.33 | drmessano | Nugget: LOL |
| 17:10.37 | xheliox | Did you understand that before or after you saw the Chinese IP? |
| 17:10.52 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: You're right.. that's per ATTEMPT right? Kinda like a lack of call-progress and such. Just considers it valid as soon as the packet is queued ;) |
| 17:11.13 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: Per thought. Now that's scary |
| 17:11.22 | [TK]D-Fender | OH SHIT i JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IT! |
| 17:11.27 | [TK]D-Fender | UGH, AGAIN! |
| 17:11.58 | [TK]D-Fender | UR IN MAH BRAINZ CHARGING 4 THAWTZ! |
| 17:12.03 | [TK]D-Fender | </lolcat> |
| 17:12.05 | drmessano | [TK]D-Fender: My god, I have an MWI from my grandmother returning a call I only THOUGHT about making. STAB TEH ASTERISK |
| 17:12.22 | *** join/#asterisk Linuturk (~linuturk@unaffiliated/linuturk) |
| 17:12.26 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: res_psychic.so pwns U |
| 17:12.51 | drmessano | Reminds me of the David Blaine spoofs |
| 17:12.57 | drmessano | "Check your wallet" |
| 17:13.04 | drmessano | "KNOCK IT OFF, YOU DEVIL" |
| 17:13.23 | drmessano | "YOU PUT ORANGE SODA IN MY MOUTH" |
| 17:13.57 | drmessano | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYxu_MQSTTY |
| 17:14.17 | *** join/#asterisk guilhermebr (~Guilherme@189.50.119.172) |
| 17:14.39 | Nugget | I love those vids |
| 17:14.51 | *** join/#asterisk cutencool (~dostnfrie@WimaxUser370-204.wateen.net) |
| 17:15.20 | drmessano | "call your mom" |
| 17:15.24 | cutencool | ? |
| 17:15.26 | drmessano | Yeah |
| 17:15.46 | drmessano | I should do that for an entire day |
| 17:15.51 | drmessano | "Check your sock" |
| 17:16.03 | drmessano | "STOP PUTTING SH** ON OUR BODIES, DAVID BLAINE!" |
| 17:16.15 | raden_work | anyone have any idea why i cannot use my dns server via WAN ? i have port 53 forwarded both UDP and TCP |
| 17:16.53 | drmessano | raden_work: Is recursion disabled? |
| 17:17.00 | xheliox | raden_work: Not really an Asterisk question, but I suspect you have queries limited to just the loopback address. |
| 17:18.32 | raden_work | drmessano, recurssion ? |
| 17:18.44 | drmessano | No, recursion |
| 17:19.27 | raden_work | the DNS works fine on the LAN |
| 17:19.36 | raden_work | just wont work on WAN |
| 17:19.52 | drmessano | Did you click SAVE on your router when you added 53? |
| 17:20.07 | xheliox | Did you reboot 3 times? :) |
| 17:20.12 | drmessano | ha |
| 17:20.23 | raden_work | LMAO |
| 17:20.28 | drmessano | "Did you reboot the web server?" |
| 17:20.43 | raden_work | why would i need to reboot the web server ? |
| 17:20.56 | xheliox | ah.. classic video. |
| 17:21.09 | *** join/#asterisk iamdharma (~iamdharma@static-68-162-250-125.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:21.10 | xheliox | I especially like the one where he goes in and deletes the sent e-mail. |
| 17:21.17 | drmessano | raden_work: The rebooting 3 times is a reference to something that apparently is over your head |
| 17:21.19 | raden_work | just need DNS |
| 17:21.44 | drmessano | xheliox: The desktop icons on salesguy's computer |
| 17:21.48 | raden_work | drmessano, LOL :) |
| 17:22.05 | xheliox | raden_work: I _presume_ (as much as TK hates that) that you're running Linux and bind? |
| 17:22.14 | raden_work | Yes Sir ! |
| 17:22.20 | drmessano | OMG |
| 17:22.26 | raden_work | ? |
| 17:22.27 | xheliox | Do you have an allow-query option in your named.conf? |
| 17:22.37 | raden_work | I dont believe so |
| 17:23.50 | xheliox | if you run 'host www.yahoo.com <dnsip>' from a Linux client off your LAN, do you get a "refused" message or does it just hang for awhile and then time out? |
| 17:24.27 | xheliox | Ok. He went to reboot 3 times, he'll be back. |
| 17:25.02 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (~jon@72-160-203-26.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 17:25.04 | *** join/#asterisk pinoyskull (~pinoyskul@112.198.64.94) |
| 17:25.10 | raden_work | F'ing internet |
| 17:25.11 | drmessano | hahah |
| 17:25.18 | raden_work | Office |
| 17:25.24 | raden_work | my house is more stable |
| 17:25.26 | drmessano | raden_work: That's why your DNS isn't working |
| 17:25.37 | raden_work | what do i need to do to make it work ? |
| 17:25.39 | drmessano | raden_work: Fix that part and the rest will work |
| 17:25.44 | raden_work | #allow-query { 127.0.0.1; }; |
| 17:26.00 | raden_work | # The allow-query record contains a list of networks or IP addresses |
| 17:26.00 | raden_work | # to accept and deny queries from. The default is to allow queries |
| 17:26.00 | raden_work | # from all hosts. |
| 17:26.10 | drmessano | [13:24] * raden_work has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) <-- You sure that isn't the problem ? |
| 17:26.21 | xheliox | if you run 'host www.yahoo.com <dnsip>' from a Linux client externally, do you get a "refused" message or does it just hang for awhile and then time out? |
| 17:26.29 | raden_work | that happens once in a blue mood |
| 17:27.00 | raden_work | xheliox, if i do a dig from my co-lo in colorado i just dont get a answer back one second ill paste part of it |
| 17:28.31 | raden_work | xheliox, http://pastebin.com/9H8Y3bH1 |
| 17:28.34 | xheliox | raden_work: AFAIK, if bind was rejecting the request, you'd get an error response. I'd focus on making sure port 53 is really open to that DNS and that you don't have a firewall rule on the DNS box itself blocking it. |
| 17:29.02 | xheliox | raden_work: Or from the DNS, you could twireshark -i <inteface> -f "udp port 53" and see if you actually see the request. |
| 17:29.56 | xheliox | raden_work: I'm not getting any response on 53 udp/tcp to that port, you have a network problem I suspect.. it's not the DNS configuration itself. |
| 17:30.12 | raden_work | xheliox, yea trying to nmap it right now |
| 17:30.17 | raden_work | freaking POS netgear router :( |
| 17:30.32 | raden_work | everytime we have a problem it goes back to that |
| 17:30.36 | drmessano | Where is the DNS server? |
| 17:30.39 | raden_work | I need to get ASA 5505 in place |
| 17:30.48 | raden_work | internal server behind router |
| 17:30.54 | drmessano | At work? |
| 17:30.57 | raden_work | YES |
| 17:31.23 | drmessano | On the connection you bitched about "your house being more stable" and now you suspect it's the router? |
| 17:31.30 | drmessano | I could have told you that, bucko |
| 17:31.42 | raden_work | that the first time in 53 days its went down |
| 17:31.50 | raden_work | my house is pushing 260 days |
| 17:32.10 | drmessano | I could care less about your house |
| 17:32.16 | raden_work | we have had many issues with the router |
| 17:32.19 | raden_work | and I mean many |
| 17:32.23 | drmessano | But you admittedly have a shitty router at work |
| 17:32.25 | *** join/#asterisk Carlos_PHX (~Carlos@ip68-99-199-10.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 17:32.26 | raden_work | not trying to argue |
| 17:32.31 | drmessano | THAT is your problem, dude |
| 17:32.35 | raden_work | yes that we do FV538 netgear |
| 17:32.50 | raden_work | I have a ASA-5505 on my desk I need to get in place one of these days |
| 17:33.00 | drmessano | xheliox: Beer me, I don't think he gets it |
| 17:33.30 | xheliox | drmessano: Sorry, I don't have any beer. I stick to the hard stuff. |
| 17:33.33 | xheliox | You know, wine coolers. |
| 17:33.43 | xheliox | The occasional Zima. |
| 17:33.44 | xheliox | ;) |
| 17:33.45 | raden_work | does dns reply on a different port ? |
| 17:33.52 | raden_work | cause I have to forward traffic out on this POS too |
| 17:34.16 | evilbit | huh? |
| 17:34.40 | raden_work | the netgear |
| 17:34.47 | raden_work | it blocks outbound traffic tooo |
| 17:34.51 | raden_work | no joke |
| 17:35.07 | drmessano | xheliox: I drink JW Black Label and Jim Beam Black. Also keep the fridge stocked with Yuengling Black and Tan |
| 17:36.02 | Alton35 | Jim Beam & Coke here, one drink per night. |
| 17:36.02 | evilbit | yuengling++ |
| 17:36.14 | drmessano | I make homemade pizza with Yuengling in the dough instead of water. +++++ |
| 17:36.47 | xheliox | I like Yuengling, one of the few domestic beers I can tolerate. |
| 17:37.06 | xheliox | I mostly drink Jameson Whiskey though. |
| 17:37.11 | drmessano | and it's good for steaming Nathan's or Sabrett's |
| 17:38.37 | Alton35 | Hmm, now that all the experts are here.... I'm curious if anyone knows a little about answering machine detection, AMD() or the like. |
| 17:39.02 | raden_work | WTF we just lost our static IP |
| 17:39.05 | raden_work | I hate centurytel |
| 17:39.13 | xheliox | facepalms |
| 17:39.19 | xheliox | Alton35: I've used it, what do you want to know? |
| 17:39.53 | Alton35 | well, I don't really care if a person or a machine answers, |
| 17:40.14 | Alton35 | I just want to wait until it's time to leave the message, |
| 17:40.15 | *** join/#asterisk theron (~theron@ip244.scolloc.lh.net) |
| 17:40.24 | *** join/#asterisk joako (~joako@opensuse/member/joak0) |
| 17:40.38 | Alton35 | thing is, I can't seem to be able to detect this reliably, with AMD() or waitforsilence() or anything much, |
| 17:40.56 | Alton35 | could be the cell phone provider I'm calling, Pocket Communications, a fairly local one, it works fine with other carriers. |
| 17:41.18 | Alton35 | Now, to boot, |
| 17:41.35 | *** join/#asterisk Dovid (~annon@213.8.121.90) |
| 17:41.40 | xheliox | Alton35: AMD isn't exactly 100%. |
| 17:42.02 | Alton35 | I try recording the call with Monitor() and I never hear the start of the call. It's maddening. |
| 17:42.31 | Alton35 | I know what you mean. I wonder if waitforsilence() might have a place I could adjust the silence threshold. That might do the trick. |
| 17:43.18 | Alton35 | This is, I have a customer who tells me "Callingpost.com can leave messages on answering machines" and I tell them I can too but I doubt that either of us is 100% reliable. |
| 17:44.19 | xheliox | If someone takes a longer than normal pause when they record their msg.. it can really mess things up. We do automated messages for a highschool when a kid misses class, I think we get it 80% if it goes to voicemail. |
| 17:44.23 | *** join/#asterisk simplydrew (~simplydre@mobile-166-193-217-176.mycingular.net) |
| 17:44.30 | xheliox | I repeat the message 2 or 3 times, just to make sure. |
| 17:44.37 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (~jon@72-160-183-98.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 17:46.07 | *** join/#asterisk srbaker (~srbaker@S0106c03f0e8ab2c2.cc.shawcable.net) |
| 17:47.51 | knarfly | the school my kids go to do the same thing when they miss...they seem to listen for the beep because the message almost always has some of the text and then it quickly starts over from the beginning. as though it were running and then when it detected the sound of the beep (to leave a message) it starts over |
| 17:49.24 | xheliox | Looks like AMD was rather beefed up in 1.6. I'll have to give that a whirl. |
| 17:49.52 | knarfly | and I live in Miami which means they say the message in English and then again in Cuban...er Spanish that is. |
| 17:58.31 | Alton35 | hah |
| 17:58.36 | Alton35 | I have 1.6 but it ain't perfect. |
| 17:59.28 | Alton35 | The silence_threshold in AMD(), I have never seen a valid range documented. |
| 17:59.34 | Alton35 | It just says the default is 256. |
| 17:59.53 | xheliox | I have 1.6 running some places, but the machine I'm actively using AMD on is still 1.4. |
| 18:00.03 | Kobaz | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v61/247/87/682725342/n682725342_48095_2838.jpg |
| 18:02.45 | Alton35 | Any idea why the Monitor() doesn't start at the start of the call? I am running it right away in extensions.conf and then passing control to an AGI(). |
| 18:03.04 | Alton35 | I'd love to be able to hear the actual audio of all of this. |
| 18:04.10 | Kobaz | Alton35: make sure you're not using the 'b' option |
| 18:04.20 | xheliox | Is it even creating the file at all? |
| 18:04.28 | Kobaz | Alton35: and really you should be using MixMonitor()... as Monitor() has nasty i/o issues |
| 18:04.34 | Alton35 | I've been using 'm' and creating a wav file then letting it mix them later. |
| 18:04.57 | xheliox | Alton35: I agree with Kobaz, I haven't used Monitor in years. |
| 18:05.02 | Alton35 | hmm, I thought it was the other way around. I don't mind the slowdown; just trying to fix this one problem. |
| 18:05.13 | Alton35 | hmm, lemme try that then, just a minute |
| 18:05.21 | Kobaz | Alton35: Monitor() does recording in the same thread as audio mixing |
| 18:05.32 | Kobaz | MixMonitor() spawns a new thread to record |
| 18:05.49 | Alton35 | ok, that could be a relevant difference |
| 18:05.56 | Kobaz | so any decently big i/o hits during Monitor(), will affect audio bridging |
| 18:07.48 | Kobaz | i've been meaning to rewrite Monitor() to fix that, but haven't gotten around to it |
| 18:11.18 | *** join/#asterisk bandu (kvirc@pool-71-164-242-252.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:12.58 | Alton35 | well, I guess that asterisk is not commencing to bring the channel up until my waitforsilence() is finished |
| 18:13.05 | Alton35 | I think the mixmonitor worked better though |
| 18:13.10 | Alton35 | so hmm |
| 18:13.50 | Alton35 | maybe I can play a beep or something after the answer() to make it start from the beginning for sure |
| 18:14.04 | Kobaz | Playback(silence/0) |
| 18:14.22 | Alton35 | lemme try that |
| 18:14.37 | Kobaz | i have to do that in my unit testing to get audio flowing |
| 18:15.02 | Alton35 | I'll know in a minute. |
| 18:19.53 | Alton35 | oh this is very interesting, |
| 18:20.26 | Alton35 | now that I'm playing that, all the sudden the waitforsilence() spits all these lines on the screen, progress indications, so it wasn't even working before. |
| 18:20.55 | Alton35 | I ended up playing 1 second of silence in gsm format but I'll replace that soon enough, lemme check the audio file. |
| 18:21.30 | Alton35 | yup, damn, it's all there now |
| 18:21.33 | Alton35 | very helpful |
| 18:21.55 | Alton35 | and now that the waitforsilence is working, I probably won't have anything to debug, hah, lemme try leaving the message. |
| 18:25.34 | evilbit | are any asterisk ppl here? |
| 18:26.21 | Alton35 | I think you have to be a bit more specific with your questions. |
| 18:28.40 | evilbit | well, I'm using the asterisk yum repo and wondering if they accept requests for additonal rpms for specific modules |
| 18:29.45 | Alton35 | that sounds like the sort of thing you'd ask them at red hat, although there may be a community of RPM makers out there that I don't know about |
| 18:30.17 | Alton35 | Maybe somebody here can point you in the right direction. Not sure. |
| 18:31.27 | evilbit | yeah, well is the asterisk guys who maintain the repo... that's why I was asking here :-) |
| 18:35.07 | cutencool | can any one tell me how to use the trunk ? |
| 18:35.13 | cutencool | in ? iax2? |
| 18:35.23 | evilbit | what do you mean? to dial out? |
| 18:35.40 | thehar | what debs does it take to for res_calendar_caldav to compile? |
| 18:35.50 | cutencool | yes dial out. |
| 18:36.12 | *** join/#asterisk Alagar (~Administr@122.164.37.96) |
| 18:37.22 | evilbit | you need to use the Dial() command... Dial($IAXTRUINK/$PHONE_NUMBER) |
| 18:47.10 | *** join/#asterisk mpe (~mpe@0x4dd624b2.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 18:52.39 | *** join/#asterisk raden_work (~jon@69-179-99-17.stat.centurytel.net) |
| 18:53.15 | raden_work | ok now that our internet connection fixed still cant get DNS via WAN ? |
| 18:53.31 | raden_work | port 53 open |
| 18:53.39 | raden_work | properly forwarding to internal server |
| 18:55.59 | raden_work | could there another file not allowing access ??? |
| 18:56.33 | *** join/#asterisk Defraz (~Defraz@corp.fuzecore.com) |
| 19:07.02 | *** join/#asterisk Sipster_ (~Sipster@modemcable045.5-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 19:07.31 | evilbit | is Asterisk::AGI still the way to go if writing AGI in perl? |
| 19:09.27 | p3nguin | You run your own DNS server? |
| 19:09.32 | p3nguin | Nevermind, he's gone. |
| 19:10.57 | carrar | You don't? |
| 19:12.36 | p3nguin | I do, yes. I was going to offer networking assistance to raden_work. |
| 19:14.20 | Alton35 | he said port 53 but maybe he did tcp instead of udp |
| 19:14.41 | p3nguin | We may never know, since he didn't hang around. |
| 19:15.37 | Qwell | evilbit: which modules? |
| 19:15.59 | evilbit | Qwell: Asterisk::AGI |
| 19:16.13 | evilbit | it's what I was using for a agi I wrote running under 1.2 |
| 19:16.19 | evilbit | but I'm on 1.6 now |
| 19:16.31 | Alton35 | I use php but that's just me. |
| 19:16.49 | Qwell | Why a package for that? cpan is easy |
| 19:17.28 | Qwell | it only changes every 2 years or so |
| 19:17.41 | evilbit | oh, wait... sorry... you are referring to my earlier question. Modules for Cepstral |
| 19:18.05 | Qwell | There is no open source Ceptral module with appropriate licensing. |
| 19:18.20 | evilbit | ah, ok |
| 19:18.51 | evilbit | i guess it would be nice to have something like axps on apache for dynamic module building |
| 19:19.16 | evilbit | but there prolly aren't that many modules so I guess it wouldn't be used often |
| 19:20.12 | Qwell | there was something at one point.. but, it's really easy to build modules, and not really necessary |
| 19:20.30 | *** join/#asterisk lhz (~shrekz@c-dba672d5.021-158-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:21.22 | evilbit | right, but if you're using rpms it seems like it could be messy |
| 19:21.39 | evilbit | no biggie though. I'll just d/l the srpm and compile against that |
| 19:22.10 | *** join/#asterisk McBoingbo (~mcboingbo@mail.hrsg.ca) |
| 19:22.56 | McBoingbo | can someone steer me in the right direction, trying to understand this error coming up when setting up our CRM to dial out using Asterisk |
| 19:24.17 | evilbit | what's the error? |
| 19:24.17 | McBoingbo | Starting SIP/248-08176808 at default, 27118008111,1 failed so falling back to exten 's' |
| 19:24.58 | evilbit | can you post the extensions.conf parts to pastebin? |
| 19:25.05 | McBoingbo | obviously the 27118008111 is the number clicked from the webpage, I only setup a user in manager.conf, but it looks like there needs to be some more tweaking |
| 19:25.10 | telnettech | Mcboingbo......that usually is a syntax error |
| 19:25.29 | McBoingbo | evilbit: Thats the problem, whats needed in the extensions.conf for this to work? |
| 19:25.50 | McBoingbo | let me pastebin the whole error |
| 19:26.11 | evilbit | sorry, gotta run into this meeting |
| 19:26.15 | McBoingbo | http://pastebin.org/390785 |
| 19:26.20 | McBoingbo | gah, hehe |
| 19:26.49 | McBoingbo | is it trying to relay the call to other exten or contexts? |
| 19:27.24 | telnettech | your syntax is not correct in your ext.conf |
| 19:27.51 | evilbit | heh, no one is in the mtg room |
| 19:27.54 | McBoingbo | whats needed? or what syntax is it referring to? sorry I am noob |
| 19:28.00 | *** join/#asterisk Cain (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 19:28.12 | telnettech | check the formatting of the context that is being used for the DIAL command to that number |
| 19:28.13 | evilbit | post extensions.conf... it looks like maybe nothing is defined in default |
| 19:28.13 | McBoingbo | evilbit: my pastebin above is the whole error |
| 19:28.36 | McBoingbo | yeah there is no default context in my extensions.conf |
| 19:28.39 | evilbit | yeah, it looks like asterisk is trying to look in the default context but that extension isn't there |
| 19:28.54 | p3nguin | So configure it to use a more appropriate context. |
| 19:29.03 | evilbit | damnit, ppl are showing up :-( Thought I got a freebie there |
| 19:29.14 | McBoingbo | hmm |
| 19:30.19 | telnettech | McBoingbo....it is telling you that there is no matching context for that number |
| 19:30.23 | *** join/#asterisk jaskew (~jdaskew@netblock-75-79-182-110.dslextreme.com) |
| 19:30.37 | telnettech | so it is looking for a default context to continue the dial |
| 19:30.41 | p3nguin | No, it's telling you there is no matching extension for that number. |
| 19:30.47 | McBoingbo | will have to try to figure out how "default" is being called |
| 19:31.19 | p3nguin | My guess would be: You don't have a context configured for the user/peer, so the default context is being used. |
| 19:31.24 | telnettech | sorry....right p3guin....so since there is no matching extension, it is telling you it cant dial that extension |
| 19:31.41 | evilbit | oh, there's a asterisk16-devel package... guess that's all I need for app_swift |
| 19:32.19 | telnettech | McBoingbo.....look for that user in your sip.conf....that is what p3guin is talking about |
| 19:32.42 | *** join/#asterisk kn0x (~pinochle@67.159.48.101) |
| 19:32.54 | McBoingbo | trying to understand why a user is needed |
| 19:32.55 | telnettech | if you look at that user, you will see that it is told to use the default context in your extensions.conf |
| 19:33.15 | telnettech | so that the person can make a call |
| 19:33.36 | telnettech | if the caller is not authorized to use the system then it shouldnt register to that boc |
| 19:33.37 | *** join/#asterisk bn-7bc (bjarne@raskerepc.holmedal.net) |
| 19:33.38 | telnettech | box |
| 19:33.41 | p3nguin | Even if you don't use a phone, something has to be in place to authenticate something to make a call. |
| 19:33.45 | McBoingbo | what about the user created in manager.conf? |
| 19:35.20 | McBoingbo | the CRM is Vtiger, anyone get Vtiger and the PBX module working with Asterisk? |
| 19:35.33 | McBoingbo | ? |
| 19:35.36 | McBoingbo | oops |
| 19:35.46 | telnettech | manager.conf is just to authenticate that the CRM has the right to issue commands to Asterisk |
| 19:36.05 | telnettech | to make a call, you have to have a user in the sip.conf |
| 19:36.30 | McBoingbo | ah ok, so if I create context [joeblow] with the rights to Asterisk, does extensions.conf need context [joeblow] or is it completely seperate? |
| 19:36.54 | McBoingbo | sorry [joeblow] created in manager.conf I meant |
| 19:37.03 | p3nguin | If your user/peer has context=joeblow in it, calls will start at [joeblow] in extensions.conf. |
| 19:37.17 | telnettech | you have to create the context in ext.conf AND a user in sip.conf |
| 19:38.00 | McBoingbo | so if I want to set this up for a sales team of 4 poeple, then 4 users need to be created in manager.conf? |
| 19:38.13 | McBoingbo | wait that doesnt make sense, nm |
| 19:38.27 | p3nguin | Usually people make calls from phones. |
| 19:38.33 | McBoingbo | because the PBX module only allows 1 user credential, so thats just the way IN |
| 19:38.42 | p3nguin | If you have a web app which is originating calls, the web app needs a user. |
| 19:39.03 | telnettech | and that user has to be in sip.conf |
| 19:39.50 | *** join/#asterisk guilhermebr (~Guilherme@ns2.aser.com.br) |
| 19:40.09 | McBoingbo | so instead I can make user as an extension then like [261] then below that context the paramaters needed to have permission to talk to Asterisk |
| 19:41.02 | p3nguin | Users are not extensions. |
| 19:41.09 | p3nguin | Extensions go in extensions.conf. |
| 19:41.49 | McBoingbo | yeah I get that, but sip.conf is riddled with references to extensions not users |
| 19:41.55 | p3nguin | negative |
| 19:42.05 | p3nguin | Extensions go in extensions.conf, not in sip.conf. |
| 19:42.23 | McBoingbo | I wasnt correcting you, I was telling you that thats what my sip.conf looks like, tons of extensions |
| 19:42.28 | [TK]D-Fender | p3nguin: Careful you mind BLOW THEIR MINDS |
| 19:42.39 | p3nguin | sip.conf contains definitions for devices. |
| 19:42.54 | p3nguin | If there are any extensions in your sip.conf, you're doing it wrong. |
| 19:43.33 | telnettech | they may look like extensions but they are not.that is how someone setup the users for easier reference |
| 19:43.41 | telnettech | they are your users |
| 19:43.42 | McBoingbo | terminology is fuxxored on my part then, [261] is an extension, but in sip.conf its a reference to a device |
| 19:43.53 | McBoingbo | yes, thats what I was getting at |
| 19:44.10 | p3nguin | [261] in sip.conf is probably the device's name. |
| 19:44.15 | McBoingbo | yes |
| 19:44.22 | telnettech | so for that USER to make any calls, the number that they are dialing has to be in the extensions.conf |
| 19:44.36 | McBoingbo | so thats why I thought making [261] in manager.conf would work |
| 19:44.49 | McBoingbo | oh shit really? |
| 19:45.10 | p3nguin | If [261] says context=joeblow under it, all calls from the authenticated 261 device will go to [joeblow] in extensions.conf. |
| 19:45.13 | McBoingbo | every number that is clicked on the website NEEDS to exist in extensions.conf? |
| 19:45.27 | p3nguin | You can use patterns. |
| 19:45.28 | p3nguin | ~pattern matching |
| 19:45.29 | infobot | somebody said pattern matching was explained here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Dialplan+Patterns |
| 19:45.57 | p3nguin | There has to be a match within the context where the call starts processing. |
| 19:46.06 | telnettech | in the sip.conf under that [261] there is a line that should read "context" ..... if not, then the system will look under 'default' context in the extension.conf |
| 19:46.35 | McBoingbo | yeah there is a context there |
| 19:46.41 | p3nguin | and it is what? |
| 19:46.59 | telnettech | so now if you that that context, it should have a matching context in the extension.conf |
| 19:47.20 | McBoingbo | but the [261] in manager.conf will not relate to [261] in sip.conf right? manager.conf is a user, sip.conf is a device ref? |
| 19:47.48 | telnettech | and under that context in extension.conf, you have to have the number being dialed as an extension |
| 19:47.51 | *** join/#asterisk eye-scuzzy (~light@sun28.ipfw.su) |
| 19:47.54 | [TK]D-Fender | [15:46]<telnettech>in the sip.conf under that [261] there is a line that should read "context" ..... if not, then the system will look under 'default' context in the extension.conf <- NO |
| 19:48.30 | p3nguin | That statement has assumed that the general context was defined as 'default'. |
| 19:49.02 | p3nguin | which it was, and the paste earlier is the evidence. |
| 19:49.12 | telnettech | ok you got me there....but the sample file 'normally' comes already defined...sorry for assuming |
| 19:49.51 | McBoingbo | ok so backtracking a little, if I put [261] with the relevant parameters needed to access Asterisk, where does Asterisk look for [261] now? |
| 19:50.22 | McBoingbo | does [261] need to live in extensions.conf AND sip.conf? |
| 19:51.10 | telnettech | only needs to be in the extension.conf if you want someone to be able to dial that number back |
| 19:51.44 | McBoingbo | confused |
| 19:52.10 | telnettech | [261] is your device |
| 19:52.26 | McBoingbo | I was under the impression the contexts in manager.conf were only user accounts to be able to talk with Asterisk |
| 19:52.38 | telnettech | correct |
| 19:52.52 | [TK]D-Fender | McBoingbo:manager.con has no relation to extensions.conf ro sip.conf |
| 19:53.05 | McBoingbo | that makes more sense to me |
| 19:53.15 | telnettech | manager.conf only allows the web app to issue commands to Asterisk |
| 19:53.22 | *** join/#asterisk evil_gordita (~evilgordi@ip70-188-50-186.rn.hr.cox.net) |
| 19:53.28 | McBoingbo | so once you have access, thats enough, after that..... |
| 19:53.49 | telnettech | if you want the web app to be able to call, it has to have a a user/device under sip.conf |
| 19:53.54 | McBoingbo | so since it keeps referrinf to "default", I need to find that in the application code and change it to a context we use |
| 19:54.17 | p3nguin | Usually the user agent does not define its own context. |
| 19:54.29 | telnettech | or create a default context |
| 19:54.33 | [TK]D-Fender | McBoingbo: "It"? WTF is "it"? |
| 19:54.38 | McBoingbo | well, the web app calls my extension (this is a preference setup), and it is supposed to make the outgoing call once I pickup, and thats when the error happens |
| 19:54.48 | p3nguin | But I don't know if it can being a manager. |
| 19:54.58 | McBoingbo | "it" is the error that is being output |
| 19:55.27 | [TK]D-Fender | .... |
| 19:55.57 | [TK]D-Fender | McBoingbo: Well I guess you'd better look at rpecisely what you are doing in that call. |
| 19:56.31 | telnettech | p3nguin...... the web app can issue the dial command, it just requires a sip.conf and context to dial, just like a phone..... |
| 19:56.46 | p3nguin | alright. |
| 19:56.48 | McBoingbo | yeah so I changed the context in the application code, now it changed the error log |
| 19:56.58 | McBoingbo | sorry guys, I know this was all over the place |
| 19:57.19 | [TK]D-Fender | correct |
| 19:57.25 | McBoingbo | lol |
| 19:57.27 | p3nguin | I don't use manager.conf, so I didn't know how much flexibility and control it provided. |
| 19:57.34 | *** join/#asterisk bmg505 (~leon@196-209-7-27.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) |
| 19:58.32 | [TK]D-Fender | I don't see the AMI command being issued. |
| 19:59.02 | p3nguin | Ugh. I've had the charger on my car battery for about 38 hours @ 2A charge. It's STILL not charged up. |
| 19:59.26 | telnettech | Mcboingbo.....did you make sure that the number being called is in the context you are using in extensions.conf? |
| 20:09.27 | *** join/#asterisk Godfather_ (~Godfather@35.Red-88-7-6.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:10.10 | Godfather_ | o/ |
| 20:14.21 | *** join/#asterisk ccesario (~ccesario@189-29-60-113-ac.cpe.vivax.com.br) |
| 20:14.24 | *** join/#asterisk fish-bulb (~qcstewart@nat/digium/x-zgfxtznqmehigrdw) |
| 20:25.10 | [TK]D-Fender | checkout time, later all, BBIAB |
| 20:28.52 | *** join/#asterisk uqlev (~yuriy@91.184.221.31) |
| 20:38.15 | *** join/#asterisk Jymmm (~jymmm@unaffiliated/jymmm) |
| 20:38.52 | Jymmm | would anyone mind if I asked a oddball question regarding a PAP2? |
| 20:41.14 | *** join/#asterisk Tobarja (~chatzilla@24.136.151.107) |
| 20:41.17 | evilbit | so, I've built swift and have app_swift.so but it doesn't seem to load as "core show application swift" says swift isn't registered |
| 20:41.28 | evilbit | PAP2, the linksys device? |
| 20:42.20 | Jymmm | Yeah, I want to buy some telco test equipment, specifically a linemans buttset. But I won't have a POTS line to test it with as I'm meeting him in a parking lot. Can I use the PAP2 itself somehow to generate a dialtone, talkback, ring, generate CallerId, etc. |
| 20:44.20 | Jymmm | I'll have 120VAC, but that's it. |
| 20:45.01 | Tim_Toady | Jymmm not with a pap alone, you will also need a sip ua to connect pap to |
| 20:45.29 | Tim_Toady | a laptop running asterisk can do this |
| 20:45.42 | Jymmm | Tim_Toady: Ok, I thought there might have been some DTMF codes you can use to do a ringback, etc. |
| 20:46.15 | *** join/#asterisk war9407 (war@liquidswords.org) |
| 20:47.10 | Jymmm | Tim_Toady: That's an idea, let me grab my netbook at see what I come up with =) |
| 20:47.29 | Jymmm | Tim_Toady: TY =) |
| 20:47.32 | Tim_Toady | np |
| 20:48.35 | Jymmm | Tim_Toady: Since I'm completely clueless on asterisk, would you suggest asterisk or some over variant for this testbox? |
| 20:49.27 | Jymmm | s/over/other/ |
| 20:49.47 | p3nguin | The PAP2 won't generate a dialtone without a SIP connection on the other side? |
| 20:49.55 | Jymmm | gives infobot a cookie |
| 20:49.56 | Tim_Toady | Jymmm im not aware of an easy to use/out of the box sip ua that you can use, maybe someone else here can suggest something |
| 20:50.00 | Tim_Toady | p3nguin no |
| 20:50.06 | *** join/#asterisk jasonjjohnsonjr (~jasonjjoh@asa1.jsmc.org) |
| 20:50.09 | p3nguin | I did not know that. |
| 20:56.22 | raden | p3nguin, you can set it so it will but by default it will not |
| 20:56.55 | raden | need any pap2 help just ask I have battled many of them |
| 20:59.41 | p3nguin | jymmm needs some help. |
| 21:00.07 | Jymmm | is beyond help =) |
| 21:00.45 | Jymmm | raden: did you see what I'm trying to accomplish? |
| 21:01.03 | raden | Jymmm, no just got here what yea need ? |
| 21:01.08 | Jymmm | raden: Just skip past "Rule the world" part... |
| 21:01.43 | Jymmm | raden: I want to buy some telco test equipment, specifically a linemans buttset. But I won't have a POTS line to test it with as I'm meeting him in a parking lot. Can I use the PAP2 itself somehow to generate a dialtone, talkback, ring, generate CallerId, etc. |
| 21:02.09 | raden | Jymmm, yea with asterisk |
| 21:02.18 | raden | laptop + pap2 your good |
| 21:02.19 | Jymmm | raden: Tim_Toady suggested that on a laptop already =) |
| 21:02.26 | raden | that the only way |
| 21:02.37 | raden | unless you want to do some major firmware hackage |
| 21:02.45 | Jymmm | raden: I'm just clueless with asterisk, but the netbook is charging now =) |
| 21:03.15 | raden | what is the point of this ? |
| 21:03.40 | Jymmm | raden: to test the test equipment before I buy |
| 21:03.55 | Jymmm | He's driving about 40 miles away, meeting him half way |
| 21:04.12 | raden | you are not going to have time to do everything |
| 21:04.12 | Qwell | parking lot? |
| 21:04.14 | Qwell | are you buying black market ATAs or something? |
| 21:04.29 | Jymmm | LOL |
| 21:04.36 | Jymmm | No, a linemans buttset |
| 21:04.49 | Qwell | you're buying a black market buttset? |
| 21:05.13 | Jymmm | No a used butt |
| 21:05.30 | Jymmm | and it's a blue one! |
| 21:06.21 | Jymmm | come one Qwell, I'm waiting for the comeback on that one |
| 21:06.28 | Jymmm | s/one/on/ |
| 21:06.41 | Qwell | Jymmm: any further comments I have are inappropriate at this time. |
| 21:06.54 | Qwell | I'll call on drmessano to continue though. |
| 21:07.11 | Jymmm | Qwell: LOL, well the only thing I could come up with is cadaver |
| 21:12.48 | beek | Is there such a thing as a new butt? |
| 21:14.06 | Jymmm | beek: Go find a girl and wait 9 months. |
| 21:14.36 | beek | Jymmm: Well, only until the first poop. Then it's a used butt. |
| 21:15.14 | Jymmm | beek: Hey, New butt warranty expires 30 seconds before the first poo! |
| 21:16.02 | beek | :D |
| 21:16.31 | drmessano | Hmmm |
| 21:17.00 | Jymmm | beek: Or, if you always want to have that "New Butt Smell", then move to Utah or some other place that practices paligamy (sp) =) |
| 21:17.34 | drmessano | You're buying a used butt set in a parking lot |
| 21:17.38 | drmessano | Are you smoking something? |
| 21:17.56 | drmessano | First off, parking lots are dangerous |
| 21:18.03 | beek | From a guy who has it under a trench coat... pssst. Hey buddy... want to buy a used butt set? |
| 21:18.03 | drmessano | Second, who uses analog anymore? |
| 21:18.22 | drmessano | We moved to SIP years ago, fella |
| 21:18.38 | ChannelZ | some people just like their blue butts |
| 21:19.00 | *** join/#asterisk blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 21:19.04 | drmessano | You know what kind of butt set we use for SIP? LINUX BABY |
| 21:19.35 | ChannelZ | Oh... THAT'S why I can't hear anything |
| 21:19.43 | drmessano | Cover your butt, Mr I-Love-Analog-SPTN-Ports-N-Stuff |
| 21:19.43 | ChannelZ | stands up and puts the phone back on the desk |
| 21:20.29 | raden | when someone on a SIP call how can i see who they called ? |
| 21:20.38 | drmessano | Look over their shoulder |
| 21:20.42 | drmessano | or CDR |
| 21:20.55 | drmessano | ~CDR |
| 21:20.56 | infobot | it has been said that cdr is Call Detail Record, a log of what happens to the call at each step through its traversal of the PBX, details like from, to, time, duration, number dialled etc, useful for billing also - it could also be Compact Disc Recordable, see cdrw |
| 21:21.15 | drmessano | Yep, it's like LOGS, but for FONECALLS |
| 21:22.03 | ChannelZ | I was going to say 'ask them' |
| 21:22.35 | drmessano | Fire them for making the call, THEN ask them! |
| 21:23.30 | drmessano | Put the MIDDLE back in MIDDLE MANAGEMENT, my GREEN POLKA DOTTED FRIEND |
| 21:23.43 | ChannelZ | And then set their house on fire! |
| 21:23.52 | raden | drmessano, im miles away LOL |
| 21:23.59 | raden | i found the command |
| 21:24.02 | raden | nm |
| 21:24.14 | drmessano | raden: Then why the hell do you care who they called? |
| 21:24.26 | drmessano | raden: if you're miles awat, leave them alone! |
| 21:24.30 | raden | Its MY OFFICE |
| 21:24.32 | ChannelZ | In that case you need ChanSpy so you can bust in on them and say "hey! hey! who are you talking to?" |
| 21:24.41 | raden | LMAO |
| 21:24.45 | Jymmm | lol |
| 21:24.51 | p3nguin | That's what people do -- they spy on channels, record conversations, and read the numbers of people who are being called. |
| 21:25.03 | raden | of course |
| 21:25.17 | Jymmm | ChannelZ: where's the fun in that? Better to record the call and email to everyone in the company |
| 21:25.24 | raden | LMAO :) |
| 21:25.50 | ChannelZ | Stream them. Like listening to a scanner. |
| 21:26.12 | Jymmm | ChannelZ: Ohhhhhh GOOD IDEA!!!!! I like that |
| 21:26.40 | drmessano | Its YOUR office? |
| 21:26.41 | ChannelZ | The Cubicle Lemming Shoutcast Channel |
| 21:27.08 | drmessano | If its YOUR office and they're using YOUR phone, YOU should be FIRED for it |
| 21:27.11 | drmessano | How dare you! |
| 21:27.42 | drmessano | What did I tell you about letting others use your phone? |
| 21:28.01 | Jymmm | dmz: you want 10% of the profits from the 900 line |
| 21:28.05 | drmessano | First you buy that shitty Netgear router, then you break the DNS server, now you're letting others use your phone? |
| 21:28.12 | Jymmm | drmessano: : you want 10% of the profits from the 900 line |
| 21:28.26 | drmessano | You're fired. Don't bother turning in your keys, because the locks have already been changed! GTFO! |
| 21:28.37 | Qwell | drmessano: You said "Only let somebody else use your phone after you've committed a crime, so that they're fingerprints are on it at the period in which it happened." |
| 21:28.39 | raden | drmessano, other office |
| 21:28.42 | raden | I work for 3 companies |
| 21:28.44 | Qwell | their* |
| 21:28.55 | ChannelZ | Oh, a moonlighter. |
| 21:29.00 | drmessano | raden: You should be fired from all THREE of them |
| 21:29.06 | raden | drmessano, still cant seem to get dns working at main place |
| 21:29.18 | raden | drmessano, why do you say stuff like that ? |
| 21:29.23 | Jymmm | drmessano: Yeah, go ahead change the locks! I have a plasma cutter! |
| 21:29.26 | *** join/#asterisk jeffgus (~jeffgus@2002:ad33:b504::1) |
| 21:29.33 | raden | Jymmm, me 2 : |
| 21:29.37 | drmessano | raden: you don't need to continue to testify to your own incompetence. You convinced me. You're VERY fired. |
| 21:29.52 | Jymmm | haha |
| 21:30.18 | raden | drmessano, rude you are . |
| 21:30.22 | ChannelZ | You can always work for the government. No competence required. |
| 21:30.23 | Jymmm | raden: DUDE, you narked yourself out! |
| 21:30.31 | drmessano | I'm in the middle of firing you, and you tell me about yet another thing you messed up? Thank you, you're double dog fired! |
| 21:31.00 | raden | wow , another day of getting ripped on in IRC yea ! |
| 21:31.04 | Jymmm | drmessano: Hey, I thought slaves had to sold, not fired? |
| 21:31.26 | drmessano | raden: You get used to it after 12 or 15 years |
| 21:31.49 | Jymmm | drmessano: <---- noobie |
| 21:31.54 | raden | drmessano, 15 years im still not |
| 21:32.52 | drmessano | I've been on IRC since it was DRC. But DIALUP RELAY CHAT really sucked. Having to dial each person just to have a nice roundtable chat |
| 21:33.09 | p3nguin | haha |
| 21:33.22 | drmessano | and it was AOL, so every 3 mins you got blasted with "YOU GOT MAIL" |
| 21:33.41 | drmessano | I still wake up in the middle of the night sweatting and screaming "YOU GOT MAIL" |
| 21:33.45 | p3nguin | CompuServe? |
| 21:34.19 | drmessano | I never had CompuServe. My parents didn't like me talking to all those hackers online |
| 21:34.35 | raden | LMAO ROFL |
| 21:34.51 | raden | I needed a good laugh |
| 21:36.07 | *** join/#asterisk boodu (~antoine@host-115-126-167-240.adsl.nautile.nc) |
| 21:36.07 | drmessano | They buy me a computer when I am 6 years old, then try to limit what small nations I shut down using it. |
| 21:36.07 | drmessano | Control freaks. |
| 21:37.17 | drmessano | My parents were like Microsoft. They didn't care what I used my PC for, so long as it was exactly what they wanted me to use it for. |
| 21:37.55 | *** join/#asterisk pyite (~dschreibe@unaffiliated/pyite) |
| 21:38.54 | *** join/#asterisk pyite (~dschreibe@unaffiliated/pyite) |
| 21:39.10 | raden | LMAO |
| 21:39.25 | ChannelZ | You mean Apple |
| 21:39.45 | drmessano | Ah.. Yes, better analogy |
| 21:40.02 | drmessano | "make it look like a sunflower" <-- Steve Jobs |
| 21:40.32 | ChannelZ | "But the antenna won't work!" "Stuff it! I said make it look like a fucking sunflower!" |
| 21:43.36 | drmessano | "The iPhone means freedom. Ok, no, communism. But with Communism, everyone wins... just not you." |
| 21:44.28 | drmessano | "I love my iPhone. I spent 3 weeks jailbreaking it and now I can dial numbers with 7 in them!" |
| 21:45.12 | p3nguin | uh, what? |
| 21:46.08 | *** join/#asterisk ShaunR (~shaun@freenode/sponsor/NDChost.com) |
| 21:46.30 | ShaunR | with asterisk can i have the same extension logged in from multiple phones? |
| 21:46.50 | p3nguin | wonders if shaunr thought about that before typing it. |
| 21:47.29 | ShaunR | i'm thinking no, thinking call groups is what i'm going to want. |
| 21:47.33 | Qwell | ShaunR: extensions aren't devices. extensions are whatever you tell them they are. |
| 21:47.38 | drmessano | ShaunR: You login devices, not extensions... and you can tie in multiple devices to one extension. |
| 21:48.03 | ShaunR | right... |
| 21:48.07 | p3nguin | So once you log in a bunch of different devices, you can create a ring group with a single extension. |
| 21:49.21 | boodu | hello |
| 21:49.21 | p3nguin | That would be done with the Dial application: Dial(SIP/jack&SIP/jane&SIP/sally) |
| 21:50.36 | drmessano | Who the hell is Sally? |
| 21:50.48 | p3nguin | Sally Field |
| 21:50.59 | drmessano | Jane? |
| 21:51.02 | *** join/#asterisk riddlebox (~james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 21:51.06 | p3nguin | Jane Fonda |
| 21:51.13 | drmessano | Communist |
| 21:52.18 | drmessano | Wait, do you mean "Hanoi Jane" Jane, or "Jane Fonda's Workout" Jane? |
| 21:52.50 | p3nguin | Hanoi Jane |
| 21:52.54 | *** join/#asterisk [TK]D-Fender (~chatzilla@64.235.218.194) |
| 21:53.10 | *** join/#asterisk bn-7bc (bjarne@sttun-1-pt.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 21:53.22 | drmessano | Yeah, you stinkin' Red |
| 21:54.19 | p3nguin | She was married to Ted Turner, right? |
| 21:54.50 | drmessano | Yes |
| 21:56.30 | DogBoy | who smokes a lot of weed |
| 21:57.18 | drmessano | He does? |
| 21:57.46 | *** part/#asterisk ShaunR (~shaun@freenode/sponsor/NDChost.com) |
| 21:57.52 | DogBoy | he smokes a joint every day |
| 21:58.28 | p3nguin | He must smoke something to think that the stupid shows on TBS are funny. House of Payne? WTF?! |
| 21:59.07 | DogBoy | you watch tv |
| 21:59.22 | drmessano | WTF is TV? |
| 21:59.31 | drmessano | Is that an Asterisk addon? |
| 21:59.31 | p3nguin | He must have switched his supplier right about the time they started that "Very Funny" crap. I almost stopped watching that channel entirely after that. |
| 21:59.38 | p3nguin | chan_tv.so |
| 21:59.49 | drmessano | ha |
| 21:59.59 | DogBoy | http://coedmagazine.com/2009/02/06/the-10-most-successful-potheads-on-the-planet-cool-enough-to-admit-it/ |
| 22:00.12 | DogBoy | yea I watch zero tv |
| 22:00.22 | DogBoy | but look where that has led me |
| 22:00.57 | DogBoy | time for some radioshack action |
| 22:00.58 | drmessano | I think Asterisk needs to support Gregorian Monk prayer as a channel module. I shall call it chan_t.so |
| 22:01.20 | drmessano | Radio Shack? |
| 22:01.24 | drmessano | Are you buying a cell phone? |
| 22:01.29 | DogBoy | or some of that prayer action from thx1138 |
| 22:01.31 | drmessano | or an MP3 player? |
| 22:01.46 | p3nguin | Do they still have toys? |
| 22:01.54 | drmessano | Yes |
| 22:02.02 | DogBoy | no I need some little jumpers so I can use the level converter to get at the serial console on my seagate dockstar |
| 22:02.04 | drmessano | You have questions, we've got batteries (TM) |
| 22:02.21 | DogBoy | so I can eventually get asterisk running on it |
| 22:02.41 | drmessano | DogBoy: Like 2 pin header jumpers? |
| 22:02.59 | DogBoy | those dumb little clip style |
| 22:03.01 | p3nguin | Just bend 'em over and touch them together. |
| 22:03.12 | DogBoy | gotta attach 3 wires |
| 22:03.27 | p3nguin | Dab some solder on if you aren't sure they will stay. |
| 22:03.30 | drmessano | clip leads? |
| 22:03.39 | p3nguin | Oh, jumpers... |
| 22:03.41 | *** join/#asterisk Godfather_ (~Godfather@79.109.251.13.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 22:03.47 | p3nguin | wires with alligator clips. |
| 22:03.52 | DogBoy | http://image.become.com/imageserver/s3/723507588-75-75-5-0/radioshack-miniclip-jumper-wires.jpg |
| 22:03.53 | drmessano | Clip leads |
| 22:03.56 | DogBoy | like that |
| 22:04.07 | DogBoy | yea clips, like ah clips |
| 22:04.22 | DogBoy | alligator clips are too big |
| 22:04.28 | DogBoy | you're still thinking about ted turner |
| 22:06.18 | drmessano | I'm shocked radio shack even stocks those anymore |
| 22:06.26 | DogBoy | I'm not sure they do |
| 22:06.30 | DogBoy | but I bet they do |
| 22:06.46 | drmessano | Well |
| 22:06.49 | drmessano | If all else fails |
| 22:06.54 | drmessano | Buy another iPhone charger |
| 22:06.55 | *** join/#asterisk pyite (~dschreibe@unaffiliated/pyite) |
| 22:07.01 | drmessano | They have those in stock |
| 22:07.01 | p3nguin | I was surprised they had the DC power jacks when I wanted to build my own dump PoE injector. |
| 22:07.17 | p3nguin | s/dump/dumb/ |
| 22:07.38 | DogBoy | iphone? |
| 22:07.46 | DogBoy | I use a rooted G1 baby |
| 22:08.04 | drmessano | I miss the days when they had 200 in 1 electronics kits. Now they have "How to change your BlackBerry battery for Dummies" |
| 22:08.11 | DogBoy | I can't afford that iphone stuff |
| 22:08.11 | *** part/#asterisk bn-7bc (bjarne@sttun-1-pt.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 22:09.05 | *** join/#asterisk bn-7bc (bjarne@sttun-1-pt.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 22:09.33 | drmessano | "Do you guys have any resistors?" "Oh, is that the new Verizon Motorola phone? Let me check" |
| 22:09.35 | drmessano | Dumbarses |
| 22:11.07 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: You've seen the iPhone4 VS HTC vid, right? |
| 22:11.50 | drmessano | No lol |
| 22:12.17 | [TK]D-Fender | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bcryQUuDwM |
| 22:12.23 | [TK]D-Fender | OMGWTFBBQ!!! |
| 22:12.26 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: Gowatch! |
| 22:12.34 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: And thank me after ;) |
| 22:16.22 | drmessano | HAHAHAHHA!!!! |
| 22:16.48 | drmessano | "It fskcing prints money" "I dont care" |
| 22:19.10 | [TK]D-Fender | drmessano: You're welcome ;) |
| 22:20.09 | drmessano | Thank you! I needed that |
| 22:21.19 | drmessano | It can grant up to 3 wishes, even if one of those wishes is for an iPhone |
| 22:22.02 | drmessano | "It has an app that will build you an island and then transform into a m***f*** jet and fly you there" "I dont care" |
| 22:23.16 | *** join/#asterisk mindCrime (~chatzilla@eth0-2.nmd.four.lax.wayport.net) |
| 22:24.08 | *** join/#asterisk voxter (~voxter@76.77.73.130) |
| 22:27.16 | *** join/#asterisk jaytee (~jforde051@unaffiliated/jaytee) |
| 22:31.32 | exothermc | I have an interesting scenario. When I take calls in SIP and send them out dahdi, I have been answer()ing them first then dialing the dahdi channels. This last weekend I tried to just go straight to the dial and not answer the sip channel. The result was a lot of hung (they would tear down after a longer period of time) SIP channels, and under load it would actually create a massive number of rtp sockets that would run the system out of max open files. |
| 22:32.03 | exothermc | How should I be setting up calls, if I would rather the CDRs reflect what is actually happening on the calls instead have having them all say answered? |
| 22:32.15 | *** join/#asterisk Ziaeon (~Alchemist@adsl-074-166-171-132.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:32.24 | *** join/#asterisk werdan7 (~w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7) |
| 22:37.36 | exothermc | or more simply, when bridging SIP to dahdi (PSTN) what should the dialplan look like? |
| 22:42.46 | *** join/#asterisk war9407 (war@liquidswords.org) |
| 22:45.23 | ChannelZ | I've heard this a lot lately, people saying SIP sessions aren't terminating. |
| 22:47.17 | *** join/#asterisk CoderForLife (~Miranda@cpe-174-101-155-51.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 22:53.43 | *** join/#asterisk jesselang (~jesse@c-24-131-130-197.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 23:02.08 | *** join/#asterisk eject_ck (~eject_ck@85.223.182.86) |
| 23:06.23 | *** join/#asterisk blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:09.43 | *** join/#asterisk aidinb (~Aidin@wsip-98-190-45-225.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 23:11.37 | *** join/#asterisk blaines (~blaines@ip70-190-67-126.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:16.34 | *** join/#asterisk ketema (~ketema@kjhmacpro.ketema.net) |
| 23:18.11 | p3nguin | This is weird. Using 1.4.33, commenting out a peer in sip.conf and running sip reload does not clear that peer from sip show peers. How's that possible? |
| 23:19.27 | *** join/#asterisk megacono (~alun@c-98-210-112-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:19.38 | p3nguin | Why would that happen? |
| 23:20.12 | megacono | I just installed AsteriskNow 1.6 with static IP; when I try to connect to this static ip from Firefox, it is not working. Please help. |
| 23:21.12 | megacono | I can ping to askterisk's ip, but cannot connect to it with IE or firefox. |
| 23:21.39 | p3nguin | Did you follow the setup/configuration instructions? |
| 23:22.35 | p3nguin | This question might, however, be better suited to the appropriate #asterisknow channel. |
| 23:26.05 | russellb | p3nguin: if that's the case, it's a bug. |
| 23:26.27 | russellb | (the sip peer thing) |
| 23:27.07 | *** join/#asterisk coppice (~chatzilla@202.64.175.107) |
| 23:28.35 | p3nguin | Do I need to bother filing an issue for it, since there is a newer version? |
| 23:29.27 | p3nguin | Whoever finally put the link to the changelog right next to the source downloads, THANK YOU! Much more convenient, this way. |
| 23:29.50 | megacono | p3nguin #asterisknow has no one talking ;) by the way, I was installing the first option asterisk 1.6 with freepbx ... how can I access to the GUI ? |
| 23:30.45 | p3nguin | megacono: http://www.asterisk.org/AsteriskNOW-1.5-QuickStart |
| 23:30.56 | megacono | thanks |
| 23:31.27 | p3nguin | If you've done all of those steps and it still doesn't work, we'll continue troubleshooting at that time. |
| 23:31.32 | russellb | p3nguin: it would be nice if you could try it with a newer version. It should be simple to test with just the sample configs |
| 23:33.10 | p3nguin | Now it's even more strange. After waiting a while, I did sip show peers again, and it isn't on the list anymore. |
