| 00:00.42 | [TK]D-Fender | francisvgarcia: Next question.... |
| 00:00.45 | francisvgarcia | The setup is like this: IPPhones----Asterisk(TE120p)------(T1)NortelICS---TSP |
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| 00:02.33 | francisvgarcia | I suppose that after I have the T1 up and running I need to send the calls using ulaw to the Nortel ICS |
| 00:03.23 | F2Knight | Q: Anyone using any TDMoE devices? |
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| 00:07.25 | [TK]D-Fender | francisvgarcia: Probably what it's expecting |
| 00:07.38 | [TK]D-Fender | T1 = ulaw, E1=alaw |
| 00:08.14 | francisvgarcia | if u have any comments about or ideas |
| 00:09.53 | [TK]D-Fender | I haven't heard a "problem" or "question" really... |
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| 00:16.53 | [TK]D-Fender | Idea : Don't Get rid of the Nortel entirely and just use * |
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| 00:32.16 | francisvgarcia | [TK]D-Fender trust me, I would like to use just * |
| 00:33.35 | francisvgarcia | only a remote office is going to use asterisk, |
| 00:42.02 | carrar | I would stick Asterisk in front of your nortel facing the carrier |
| 00:45.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Not with a TE120P he isnt... |
| 00:46.19 | francisvgarcia | what happens is that the customer does not want the asterisk in front |
| 00:46.23 | francisvgarcia | for now |
| 00:46.58 | francisvgarcia | I'd like to, but thats what I was requiered, I tried to convince him, but there is no way |
| 00:50.43 | francisvgarcia | I have never done this before, but I have a question that can sound stupid, do u think If I place the asterisk in front of the ICS I can use the voicemail features of asterisk for the Nortel Phones behind the ICS? |
| 00:51.23 | carrar | heh |
| 00:52.20 | carrar | probably not VM notification lights |
| 00:52.27 | carrar | but everything else probably |
| 00:52.38 | F2Knight | francisvgarcia, have you given anythought to purchacing an FXO gateway device? |
| 00:53.04 | F2Knight | If I am understanding correctly you need to take the 'analog' lines out of the PBX and send the calls to a remote location. |
| 00:53.28 | francisvgarcia | carrar that's it, only the voicemail, I don't care about the light |
| 00:53.58 | F2Knight | francisvgarcia, how many 'lines' are you sending to the remote site? |
| 00:54.15 | carrar | just have to forward the call back to asterisk if no one picks up the extension |
| 00:54.23 | francisvgarcia | F2Knight yes, to a remote office through a VPN |
| 00:54.34 | carrar | then you can Email out the VM and or send a page alert of vm |
| 00:55.06 | F2Knight | francisvgarcia, how many 'lines' are you trying to make available over at the remote site.? |
| 00:55.16 | francisvgarcia | 11 of 24 available channels |
| 00:55.26 | francisvgarcia | as much as 11 calls |
| 00:55.36 | carrar | asterisk works nicely infront of other vendors PBX's with T1's to the carrier and PBX |
| 00:56.19 | carrar | You'll of course need to make call routing changes on the nortel also |
| 00:56.21 | F2Knight | francisvgarcia, what kind of budget are you working with? |
| 00:56.24 | francisvgarcia | I have working with people that dislike to invest, this one don't want to buy the 60 phones requierd |
| 00:57.12 | carrar | there is a drive for nortel phones in asteirsk |
| 00:57.14 | carrar | driver |
| 00:57.19 | francisvgarcia | only want to buy the 11 of the remote office |
| 00:58.53 | F2Knight | francisvgarcia, okay so let me clarify here.. you have real analog lines that come in to a working phone system, and you can NOT(allowed) put asterisk in front. But you need 11 of those lines to go to a remote office. |
| 00:59.24 | F2Knight | do any of those 11 lines going to the remote office have to ring or terminate on the existing phone system? or can they be just for the remote office? |
| 00:59.37 | carrar | ewe |
| 00:59.52 | carrar | analog is crap!! :) |
| 01:00.03 | francisvgarcia | It's a digital T1 |
| 01:00.14 | francisvgarcia | with only one phone number in it |
| 01:00.31 | francisvgarcia | He want's 11 outgoing concurrents calls to the PSTN |
| 01:00.44 | F2Knight | francisvgarcia, okay your t1 , where does it terminate too? |
| 01:01.05 | francisvgarcia | It terminates in the Nortel ICS |
| 01:01.11 | F2Knight | is it being sent to an IAD? or does your t1 plug directly in to the nortel.. |
| 01:01.24 | F2Knight | um okay then your options are as such... |
| 01:01.35 | francisvgarcia | Directly to the Nortel |
| 01:01.36 | francisvgarcia | The Setup is like this |
| 01:01.56 | francisvgarcia | NortelPhones------ICS(T1)----Telephone Services Provider |
| 01:02.44 | francisvgarcia | He want's to integrate the remote 11 IP phones so they can call using the same T1 |
| 01:03.10 | F2Knight | 1) TSP ---- ICS --- GW-Device --- Asterisk --- asterisk |
| 01:03.15 | francisvgarcia | I thought placing asterisk in front of the ICS with 2 T1 |
| 01:03.42 | F2Knight | you have asterisk on the remote.. |
| 01:03.46 | F2Knight | with ip phones |
| 01:03.49 | francisvgarcia | no |
| 01:03.56 | F2Knight | just ip phones? |
| 01:03.58 | francisvgarcia | will be provisioned remotely |
| 01:03.59 | francisvgarcia | yes |
| 01:04.02 | F2Knight | okay |
| 01:04.14 | F2Knight | so on your local you need to have an * box, |
| 01:04.17 | francisvgarcia | he don't want to invest in a remote server lol |
| 01:04.31 | F2Knight | asterisk must interface with with the phone system |
| 01:04.41 | F2Knight | IF you can not change the existing phone system. |
| 01:04.43 | francisvgarcia | es |
| 01:04.48 | francisvgarcia | yes |
| 01:05.02 | francisvgarcia | I gotta leave the local system as it is for now |
| 01:05.31 | francisvgarcia | as I told u, he don't want to invest so much for now due to economical crisis |
| 01:06.09 | carrar | leave everything that way it is then |
| 01:06.17 | F2Knight | then you must re program the ICS to use exteranal analog trunks, set up call groups to send specfic numbers to basickly forward out the calls from the t1 to the analog lines.. those have to connect to either a TDM card or a gateway device FXS/FXO device. that then connects to asterisk. |
| 01:07.15 | F2Knight | you are forcing yourself to do double the programing because you have to have the ICS route everyting for you. and basicly make the calls back out. |
| 01:07.19 | F2Knight | so that asterisk can answer them. |
| 01:07.46 | francisvgarcia | yes |
| 01:09.37 | F2Knight | your other option is to put a gateway device in front of the ICS that interfaces with the t1 ... say asterisk with a t1 card in it, and a gateway device to give the calls back to the ICS for there calls and route the others over asterisk. Either way you have to reporgram the ICS. Your choice is either to do it once and use analog trunks out , or use a t1 card, asterisk, a gatway device, and reporgram the ICS |
| 01:10.34 | carrar | T1 in front of the ICS is a "cleaner" way |
| 01:10.48 | francisvgarcia | F2Knight you are right |
| 01:11.27 | F2Knight | really the easier way in YOUR case is to just get gateway device... for like 12 ports .. will cost about 1200-3000 dollars depending on who you get it from.. or buy a bunch of pap2 if hes being super cheap. 6 pap2, will cost about 250 bucks, but you will have manage 6 devices not 1 |
| 01:12.00 | carrar | messy |
| 01:12.17 | F2Knight | carrar, yes for his setup the t1 to the ICS will be the least amont of effort and the only way he can get what his restrictions are. |
| 01:12.23 | F2Knight | for the least amount of money |
| 01:12.50 | F2Knight | the pap2 solution is ugly but 250 ve 2500 is a big difference. |
| 01:13.23 | carrar | were does 2500 come form? |
| 01:13.30 | carrar | all he needs is a 2 port T1 card |
| 01:13.57 | carrar | and change a few routing stuff on the nortel (assume he does that himself) |
| 01:14.13 | francisvgarcia | 48 ip phones * 60 |
| 01:14.24 | carrar | oh |
| 01:14.26 | F2Knight | Still the biggest challenge is going to be programing the ICS to forward all the other calls out over the 'pots' circuts.. which would go to your pap2's or something like a Audiocodes M1000 12FXS 12FXO |
| 01:14.36 | carrar | use xlite :) |
| 01:14.41 | carrar | FREE |
| 01:15.04 | carrar | wants something for nothing, maybe he shouldn't be doign this |
| 01:15.14 | carrar | if you can't do it right |
| 01:15.51 | francisvgarcia | I proposed so for about 40 mobile extensions and he said that his business is not a call center LMAO |
| 01:15.53 | F2Knight | francisvgarcia, 48 IP phones sharing 11 lines? |
| 01:16.35 | francisvgarcia | he has 40 lines sharing 24 channels |
| 01:16.47 | francisvgarcia | we will add 11 more |
| 01:17.08 | F2Knight | not a heavy phone user then okay. |
| 01:17.22 | F2Knight | so is this going to be 88 total phones? |
| 01:17.30 | F2Knight | the 40 * the 48 remote? |
| 01:17.46 | francisvgarcia | 40 local + 11 remote |
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| 01:18.06 | F2Knight | so its 40 Nortel phones, and 11 IP Phones |
| 01:18.14 | francisvgarcia | yes |
| 01:18.36 | F2Knight | and these 11 are to get 11 DID's 11 of there own numbers.? |
| 01:19.14 | carrar | watches the dead horse get beaten further into the ground :) |
| 01:19.19 | francisvgarcia | no, It's only a global phone number, It's like natting in networking |
| 01:19.39 | carrar | DID NATTING |
| 01:19.47 | carrar | thats awesome |
| 01:19.49 | francisvgarcia | The ivr will redirect them |
| 01:19.53 | F2Knight | then why are you giving 11 channels to the remote office? |
| 01:20.34 | F2Knight | nvm got it. |
| 01:21.20 | francisvgarcia | DID natting: The New way of defining how a internal sip extension can convert to a global DID passing thru asterisk |
| 01:22.10 | F2Knight | so yes you need a gateway device like the audiocodec M10000 to connect to asterisk and the ICS, connect your phones to asterisk and route all the calls on the ICS to do call forwarding for those extensions over the 'POTS' circuit so that the gw can pick it up. |
| 01:22.16 | francisvgarcia | F2Knight the other 13 lines will be shared by the other phones |
| 01:22.56 | F2Knight | just remember that you are using the ICS to handle everything first.. there will be switching delays |
| 01:23.19 | carrar | and possibly echo |
| 01:23.49 | F2Knight | the person calling in will have to wait a little longer for all the swithching .. usually the ICS will wait for a ring or 2 before processing.. then it will send it to the gw, then the gateway to asterisk then over the vpn to the phone. |
| 01:24.10 | francisvgarcia | F2Knight I thought that I just had to use a TEXXXp card |
| 01:24.25 | francisvgarcia | in asterisk and a T1 Module in the ICS |
| 01:24.55 | F2Knight | You could.. but I would highly recommend a gateway appliance. |
| 01:25.36 | F2Knight | $1,249.99 |
| 01:25.37 | F2Knight | PATTON SN4412/JS/UI |
| 01:25.41 | francisvgarcia | I don't see any reference about the gateway you recommended me |
| 01:25.45 | carrar | I'd stay T1 into asterisk if you can |
| 01:25.57 | F2Knight | but he cant put asterisk in front. |
| 01:26.05 | carrar | or with a T1 behind? |
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| 01:27.01 | carrar | single T1 card is like 400-500 |
| 01:27.08 | carrar | or less |
| 01:27.32 | carrar | may already be a T1 port on the nortel |
| 01:27.41 | carrar | who knows |
| 01:27.52 | F2Knight | sure there is hes already using it |
| 01:28.02 | carrar | FREE t1 port |
| 01:28.08 | carrar | obviosuly |
| 01:28.34 | F2Knight | but he is not allowed to put asterisk in front of the ICS. so the T1 MUST go in to the ICS. which makes the discussion of the T1 Mute. |
| 01:28.39 | francisvgarcia | there is a t1 slot free at the ICS |
| 01:28.47 | carrar | you can put a T1 BEHIND |
| 01:28.56 | carrar | not in front |
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| 01:29.18 | F2Knight | how do you propose him putting a t1 behind it |
| 01:29.26 | carrar | plug it in? |
| 01:29.44 | francisvgarcia | I proposed him to put it in front |
| 01:29.48 | carrar | add routing to the ICS to send XXXX out the secodn T1 trunk |
| 01:30.10 | carrar | 1st choice is infront, 2nd choice is behind |
| 01:30.14 | zirkon | is anyone in here comfortable working with installation/configuration of Sangoma cards? |
| 01:30.21 | carrar | you say #1 is not possible |
| 01:30.23 | carrar | so do #2 |
| 01:30.53 | carrar | carrier--T1--ICS--T1--Asterisk--IPPHONES |
| 01:31.12 | F2Knight | the ICS has 2 t1 interfaces?? |
| 01:31.20 | carrar | <francisvgarcia> there is a t1 slot free at the ICS |
| 01:31.25 | francisvgarcia | yes, and 1 is free |
| 01:32.18 | carrar | ok go make that happen now |
| 01:32.22 | carrar | enough talk |
| 01:32.41 | sflemming | Hi all, I have a problem with the Asterisk calendar integration. When I install a fresh asterisk on gentoo it starts with the standard config. When I copy my calendar.conf to the file it immediately crashes. Someone else tried the config without problems on x86, are there 64 bit issues known or is there someone that uses a google calendar? |
| 01:32.45 | F2Knight | not sure if you can do a t1 out to a t1 in.. i would check on that first |
| 01:32.46 | francisvgarcia | thank u for your suggestions |
| 01:33.38 | carrar | I'm sure you can |
| 01:35.17 | F2Knight | I would look in to it. Have never heard of anyone doing it .. and that would be unchartered areas and really non-standard I think. francisvgarcia, if you choose to do that do your homework... this is what the Gateway devices are MADE for and they are very reliable and supported implimentations. |
| 01:40.35 | SeRi | p3nguin, you in? |
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| 02:02.20 | SeRi | p3nguin, you in? |
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| 02:45.44 | raden | I have a Lm338T in current reg config and it wont let more than .86 amps though any thoughs ? |
| 02:45.53 | raden | 2 amps load @ 12 volts input is 16 volts |
| 02:57.46 | carrar | Do you have any Asterisk Questions? |
| 03:02.23 | carrar | read the application sheets |
| 03:02.48 | carrar | http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM138.pdf |
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| 03:22.52 | devilsoulblack | hi |
| 03:23.09 | SeRi | hola |
| 03:24.06 | devilsoulblack | any one know how to make chanspy into Queue i try to use this code http://pastie.org/2813422 |
| 03:24.08 | devilsoulblack | ani idea |
| 03:24.09 | devilsoulblack | ? |
| 03:24.14 | devilsoulblack | hola SeRi |
| 03:25.47 | SeRi | : |
| 03:26.21 | carrar | devilsoulblack, tell us what a queue is |
| 03:26.39 | devilsoulblack | the name of the queue ist STI |
| 03:26.44 | carrar | and why chanspy should listen to a "queue" |
| 03:27.09 | carrar | I didn't ask for the name of the queue |
| 03:28.16 | devilsoulblack | i have alot of queue |
| 03:28.38 | devilsoulblack | and its more effective make chanspy to queue |
| 03:28.58 | carrar | yeah ok, whatever that means |
| 03:30.10 | carrar | Sounds like you need to read up what a queue IS, and how to use chanspy |
| 03:30.37 | carrar | ~book |
| 03:30.37 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/ or ~buybook |
| 03:32.05 | devilsoulblack | carrar ist possible spy queue ? |
| 03:32.35 | carrar | Do you know what a queue is? |
| 03:32.46 | carrar | What would you be spying on? |
| 03:33.14 | devilsoulblack | spy channels on call center |
| 03:33.17 | devilsoulblack | ist too big |
| 03:33.30 | devilsoulblack | i need spy Channels that under a queue |
| 03:33.46 | carrar | obviously not listening to me |
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| 03:58.36 | Kobaz | and obviously english is not his first language |
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| 04:29.32 | Jinxed- | I wanted to start playing with asterisk at home with sip. What's a cheap way hardware wise to get started |
| 04:30.03 | ChannelZ | a computer |
| 04:30.11 | Jinxed- | I got a pap2 off craigslisy |
| 04:30.28 | ChannelZ | don't really need it just for SIP but either way |
| 04:30.35 | Jinxed- | but the firmware is too new to unluck |
| 04:31.19 | Jinxed- | ChannelZ: I already have Bantu w asterisk installed |
| 04:32.01 | ChannelZ | Get a softphone and commence playing |
| 04:32.10 | Kobaz | hah |
| 04:32.18 | Kobaz | i misread that at first as 'commence paying' |
| 04:32.23 | carrar | LETS PLAY |
| 04:32.25 | Jinxed- | I have done softphones |
| 04:32.32 | ChannelZ | well that can be arranged.. |
| 04:32.34 | Kobaz | Jinxed-: buy some polycoms |
| 04:32.46 | Jinxed- | like a 335 |
| 04:32.55 | Kobaz | mmm |
| 04:32.57 | Jinxed- | ? |
| 04:33.06 | carrar | buy em all! |
| 04:33.28 | Jinxed- | Polygons are alright |
| 04:33.35 | Jinxed- | polycoms |
| 04:33.53 | Jinxed- | sorry first time in orc on a tablet |
| 04:33.53 | carrar | Whats better? |
| 04:34.38 | Jinxed- | they almost have too many options... 700 page manuals |
| 04:34.56 | carrar | You mean they are too powerfull for you? |
| 04:35.07 | Jinxed- | but I have found them fairly easy to register w asterisk |
| 04:35.25 | Jinxed- | much easier than Cisco sip |
| 04:35.26 | carrar | Perhaps you need a nice simple Cisco 7940 |
| 04:35.34 | Jinxed- | which sucks |
| 04:35.41 | carrar | Looks and feels pretty though |
| 04:35.55 | carrar | and they are simple if that is your requirement |
| 04:36.16 | Jinxed- | Cisco's won't even let you change sip settings on the phone |
| 04:36.26 | carrar | What does that mean? |
| 04:36.38 | Jinxed- | younhave to http up a defaultconfig |
| 04:36.48 | Jinxed- | and those Sep xml files |
| 04:36.51 | carrar | umm |
| 04:36.59 | carrar | guess you have more playing to do |
| 04:37.34 | Jinxed- | even after you unlock a Cisco phone **# |
| 04:37.50 | Jinxed- | if it has the sip firmware |
| 04:38.01 | Jinxed- | you can't handbag settings |
| 04:38.11 | Jinxed- | handjam |
| 04:38.15 | carrar | you make no sense |
| 04:38.26 | carrar | You should be configuring them via TFTP |
| 04:38.33 | carrar | for the SIP firmware |
| 04:38.37 | carrar | or you can also use SCCP |
| 04:38.44 | carrar | both work with Asterisk |
| 04:39.05 | Jinxed- | which is annoying to all ends when you just need a simple config |
| 04:39.14 | carrar | that is simple |
| 04:39.52 | carrar | something more simple would be xlite |
| 04:39.55 | Jinxed- | how long does it take you to create a condig |
| 04:39.59 | carrar | 3 parameters |
| 04:40.10 | carrar | cofnigs take me about 2 seconds |
| 04:40.13 | carrar | sometimes 4 |
| 04:40.32 | Jinxed- | you have a sample config? |
| 04:40.37 | carrar | there isn't much to set |
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| 04:40.55 | Jinxed- | because all of my Cisco sip confirms are pages long |
| 04:41.01 | Jinxed- | configs |
| 04:41.30 | carrar | there is SIPDefault wich has everythign that the same across all phones |
| 04:41.32 | Jinxed- | sorry this tablet auto changes words when I'm not wa |
| 04:41.39 | Jinxed- | watchinv |
| 04:41.48 | carrar | and the SIPXXXXXXXXXXXX.cnf thats unique to the phone |
| 04:42.12 | Jinxed- | plus your sepmacaddr.cnf.xml |
| 04:42.14 | carrar | put the couple of lines to config the phones in that file |
| 04:42.21 | carrar | not for SIP |
| 04:43.39 | Jinxed- | ok, I would be very very interested if you have any sample defaults and |
| 04:43.49 | Jinxed- | a sipxxxxxx.CNN file |
| 04:43.58 | carrar | for a 7941 7961 yes you use xml |
| 04:44.08 | carrar | or anything higher then 7961 |
| 04:44.23 | carrar | as those are xml based sip configs |
| 04:44.48 | Jinxed- | yeah my baseline has been 7962 |
| 04:45.35 | carrar | create the config once |
| 04:45.40 | carrar | use variables |
| 04:45.49 | carrar | then never write another cofnig again |
| 04:45.53 | carrar | pretty simple |
| 04:46.23 | carrar | thats the POWER of unix! |
| 04:46.44 | carrar | scripting is the name of the game! |
| 04:47.31 | carrar | You should probably be using the SCCP though to make better use of the phone |
| 04:47.54 | carrar | but alas, you are playing |
| 04:47.57 | carrar | play away |
| 04:48.13 | carrar | play nice |
| 04:48.19 | SeRi | p3nguin, you in? |
| 04:50.33 | Jinxed- | what I can play with at work and home are different |
| 04:51.02 | Jinxed- | I would like some cheap hardware for home |
| 04:51.32 | Jinxed- | carrar: you wrote some bash scripts to gen your configs? |
| 04:52.13 | Jinxed- | I was also thinking about getting some routers with e1 lines |
| 04:56.00 | ChannelZ | Defies the definition of cheap |
| 05:01.57 | Jinxed- | old Cisco gear isn't that bad |
| 05:02.26 | Jinxed- | and I want to get my ccna anyway |
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| 05:18.43 | Chicho22 | hey |
| 05:19.06 | Chicho22 | I was wondering if anyone here could give me your opinions |
| 05:21.04 | carrar | yeah, get a Harley |
| 05:21.14 | carrar | go ride |
| 05:21.25 | carrar | Live free or Die!! |
| 05:22.07 | carrar | LFOD |
| 05:22.43 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:22.44 | carrar | Would you like more opinions? |
| 05:22.55 | Chicho22 | no actually i was building an asterisks server |
| 05:23.11 | Chicho22 | was wondering which router u guys recommend that actually works with voip sip qos |
| 05:23.49 | Chicho22 | cuz maaaan its like the dir 825 doesnt work!!! the 2nd one i bought wrvs4400n also doesnt work! |
| 05:23.50 | carrar | Juniper & Cisco do very well at policy routing with QoS cofnigs |
| 05:24.03 | Chicho22 | how much they go for? |
| 05:24.10 | carrar | How much are cars? |
| 05:24.10 | Chicho22 | wat type of setup u have :) |
| 05:24.16 | Chicho22 | 20k |
| 05:24.26 | carrar | depends on the car |
| 05:24.31 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:24.35 | carrar | You can get a tesla |
| 05:24.45 | carrar | or a Ashton Martin |
| 05:24.54 | Chicho22 | lol wat u got |
| 05:24.56 | carrar | (s0) |
| 05:25.01 | Chicho22 | ferrari? |
| 05:25.02 | ChannelZ | cheap chineese knockoff, Ashton Martin |
| 05:25.05 | carrar | I drive a FORD 4x4 truck |
| 05:25.08 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:25.12 | Chicho22 | me 2 |
| 05:25.15 | Chicho22 | lmao |
| 05:25.22 | carrar | Ford is the best |
| 05:25.25 | Chicho22 | escape? |
| 05:25.26 | carrar | we all know that |
| 05:25.45 | Chicho22 | f150? |
| 05:25.49 | carrar | yup |
| 05:26.01 | carrar | FX F150 |
| 05:26.03 | Chicho22 | u cant kill that truck |
| 05:26.03 | carrar | 4x4 |
| 05:26.05 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:26.35 | Chicho22 | so u have an asterisks machine i take it lol |
| 05:26.39 | Chicho22 | wats ur setup like |
| 05:26.40 | carrar | it places nice with memory sticks and mp3's |
| 05:26.43 | carrar | plays |
| 05:26.44 | ChannelZ | digs around in his weapons safe |
| 05:26.51 | Chicho22 | looool |
| 05:27.17 | carrar | I no longer run Asterisk at home |
| 05:27.23 | Chicho22 | wat u run |
| 05:27.34 | carrar | I use the servers in our datacenter |
| 05:27.36 | Chicho22 | switchvox? |
| 05:27.50 | carrar | we do use switchvox also for customer that want that |
| 05:28.06 | carrar | though thats more expensive |
| 05:28.12 | Chicho22 | ya seriously |
| 05:28.19 | Chicho22 | but what u recommend for a setup |
| 05:28.23 | carrar | but it does give them a pretty interface |
| 05:28.31 | Chicho22 | ya it does |
| 05:28.37 | Chicho22 | freepbx isnt bad 2 though |
| 05:28.38 | carrar | and nice logs and stats |
| 05:28.49 | carrar | no, it really is that bad |
| 05:29.54 | Chicho22 | lol its bad? |
| 05:30.04 | Chicho22 | so wat u like? |
| 05:30.09 | Chicho22 | nothing? |
| 05:30.11 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:30.13 | carrar | Asterisk from source |
| 05:30.13 | SeRi | rofl |
| 05:30.23 | SeRi | seconds carrar |
| 05:30.28 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:30.35 | Chicho22 | asterisk pure without gui |
| 05:30.41 | Chicho22 | or asterisk-gui |
| 05:30.54 | SeRi | not thing better than that. no fat! |
| 05:30.58 | carrar | if there is any gui involed, it's one I write myself |
| 05:31.53 | Chicho22 | :P |
| 05:31.56 | SeRi | no gui for me period. :) |
| 05:31.57 | Chicho22 | im not that good lmao |
| 05:32.07 | Chicho22 | wat u ecommend for a noob learning |
| 05:32.15 | SeRi | gui's are eeewwwww |
| 05:32.19 | Chicho22 | id like to familiarize myself a bit |
| 05:32.21 | carrar | Asterisk from source |
| 05:32.26 | SeRi | lol ^^ |
| 05:32.29 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:32.53 | carrar | or perhaps asterisk from RPM if you really know nothing |
| 05:33.11 | Chicho22 | ya but that means i gotta edit all the files manually |
| 05:33.17 | Chicho22 | shit imagine making a ivr with that |
| 05:33.18 | Chicho22 | lmao |
| 05:33.25 | SeRi | Chicho22, your nick means "fucking" in my language |
| 05:33.29 | carrar | did you say you wanted to learn asterisk? |
| 05:33.34 | Chicho22 | LOL |
| 05:33.34 | carrar | ALSO |
| 05:33.35 | Chicho22 | wat nick |
| 05:33.40 | carrar | Read this, required |
| 05:33.43 | carrar | ~book |
| 05:33.43 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9780596517342/ or ~buybook |
| 05:33.43 | SeRi | yours |
| 05:33.49 | Chicho22 | sorry wat language |
| 05:33.49 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:33.52 | SeRi | best book ever! |
| 05:33.54 | Chicho22 | im dead tired lol |
| 05:34.01 | SeRi | spanish |
| 05:34.42 | carrar | If you don't really want to learn Asterisk, stay with a gui version |
| 05:34.52 | SeRi | carrar, I bought the book. even though is open to the public. |
| 05:35.00 | carrar | I bought it too |
| 05:35.05 | carrar | so I could download it |
| 05:35.21 | carrar | guess I bought it twice actually |
| 05:35.22 | SeRi | :) |
| 05:35.29 | carrar | once for the physical book |
| 05:35.30 | Chicho22 | so which gui? |
| 05:35.39 | carrar | well work bought it :) |
| 05:35.39 | Chicho22 | i wanna first do it like with gui |
| 05:35.44 | Chicho22 | get good equipment |
| 05:35.53 | Chicho22 | once it works then play with non gui in virtual machine :) |
| 05:36.03 | carrar | take your pick |
| 05:36.06 | SeRi | I got the physical book. I have not shell out the 32 dollars for the download |
| 05:36.11 | carrar | there lots of gui asterisk releases out there |
| 05:36.29 | carrar | trixbox, freepbx, asterisk-gui |
| 05:36.36 | *** join/#asterisk Qwell (~north@pdpc/sponsor/digium/Qwell) |
| 05:36.36 | *** mode/#asterisk [+o Qwell] by ChanServ |
| 05:36.38 | carrar | probably most popular |
| 05:37.01 | SeRi | elastix also... though elastix is full of bugs and has the worst community ever |
| 05:37.05 | carrar | but keep in mind, they do things different under the hood |
| 05:37.14 | Chicho22 | freeswitch |
| 05:37.19 | carrar | and you won't get help here |
| 05:37.21 | SeRi | thats not asterisk |
| 05:37.24 | Chicho22 | oh |
| 05:37.25 | Chicho22 | lmao |
| 05:37.37 | Chicho22 | umm wat else.. theres switchvox home |
| 05:37.48 | carrar | this channel is for people who use Asterisk from source or packages |
| 05:37.50 | Chicho22 | i think thats closed source though |
| 05:38.10 | SeRi | fucking22 just download freepbx which is the closest there is to asterisk.... |
| 05:38.11 | carrar | switchvox is not open |
| 05:38.22 | carrar | though you can boot off a image and get root |
| 05:38.28 | SeRi | and got o #freepbx for help |
| 05:38.38 | carrar | but you'll violate the terms of service |
| 05:39.04 | Chicho22 | so out of the guis u mentioned which one is easiest for a noob to configure but offers the most option to explore |
| 05:39.07 | SeRi | TOS were made to get raped I mean violated. |
| 05:39.16 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:39.17 | carrar | no idea |
| 05:39.20 | carrar | again |
| 05:39.24 | carrar | I don't use gui's |
| 05:39.28 | Chicho22 | true true |
| 05:39.30 | Chicho22 | alright |
| 05:39.37 | carrar | no do I recommend it |
| 05:39.43 | Chicho22 | im gonna get this book ur talking about :) |
| 05:39.47 | carrar | I learned without a gui |
| 05:39.51 | carrar | most people have |
| 05:39.52 | Chicho22 | i think its best |
| 05:39.56 | SeRi | same here^^ |
| 05:39.56 | Chicho22 | ya ur right |
| 05:40.04 | Chicho22 | take my time learn it right |
| 05:40.16 | SeRi | no gui for me.... I did poke with other stuff. |
| 05:40.25 | SeRi | Chicho22, look at astlinux. |
| 05:40.31 | SeRi | is the best of bothworlds |
| 05:40.33 | Chicho22 | as for router/switch/phones i wanted to buy aastra 6757i |
| 05:40.49 | SeRi | you get a gui for the os but asterisk it still configured by hand |
| 05:40.55 | carrar | Aastra makes great phones |
| 05:41.02 | carrar | Aastra & Polycom are the best |
| 05:41.06 | Chicho22 | aastra vs polycom? |
| 05:41.15 | Chicho22 | polycom no ac adapters :( |
| 05:41.15 | SeRi | by the way carrar I got mine in |
| 05:41.25 | carrar | don't need em |
| 05:41.27 | carrar | PoE |
| 05:41.28 | Chicho22 | poe 2 expensive |
| 05:41.37 | carrar | PoE injector then |
| 05:41.41 | carrar | they are cheap |
| 05:41.44 | Chicho22 | for each phone/ |
| 05:41.47 | carrar | sure |
| 05:41.55 | Chicho22 | ah ya? how does that work |
| 05:42.00 | carrar | or get power cables and get a 430 |
| 05:42.01 | Chicho22 | it uses ac adapter in ethernet |
| 05:42.28 | carrar | if I were you I would start witha simpler phone |
| 05:42.40 | carrar | so you don't get lost in trying to jsut get the phone to work |
| 05:43.00 | carrar | start with a free softphone |
| 05:43.05 | Chicho22 | well i got a guide for aastra |
| 05:43.10 | Chicho22 | it seems easy to get it to register |
| 05:43.16 | carrar | and read the book |
| 05:43.21 | carrar | from the web or buy it |
| 05:43.32 | carrar | I recommend buying it |
| 05:43.44 | Chicho22 | extension/register server/ proxy server port 5060 |
| 05:43.47 | Chicho22 | pw |
| 05:44.01 | Chicho22 | in general settings global |
| 05:44.21 | Chicho22 | how bout aastra 6730i |
| 05:44.25 | Chicho22 | basic ? |
| 05:44.27 | carrar | read the book, read the example cofnigs |
| 05:44.33 | carrar | thats why they are there |
| 05:44.39 | carrar | and read the README files |
| 05:45.02 | Chicho22 | like im just still debating on the hardware i guess its why i came to ask a pro |
| 05:45.06 | Chicho22 | what to start with |
| 05:45.13 | carrar | README-SERIOUSLY.bestpractices.txt |
| 05:45.17 | Chicho22 | what equipment works good with voip provider |
| 05:45.39 | carrar | SIP equipment |
| 05:46.02 | carrar | if it's a SIP provider |
| 05:46.18 | Chicho22 | ya bramatelecom |
| 05:46.27 | carrar | T1/PRI if it's a TDMA carrier |
| 05:46.29 | Chicho22 | i got already a spa2102 with them unlocked |
| 05:46.52 | Chicho22 | but i dont wanna use that i wanna get ip phone |
| 05:46.53 | Chicho22 | router |
| 05:46.55 | Chicho22 | switch |
| 05:47.11 | Chicho22 | all capable of some sort of qos |
| 05:47.23 | carrar | qos where? |
| 05:47.57 | carrar | On your cable or DSL provider on your side only of the WEN circuit? |
| 05:47.59 | carrar | WAN |
| 05:48.01 | Chicho22 | dsl |
| 05:48.06 | Chicho22 | sorry |
| 05:48.07 | Chicho22 | cable |
| 05:48.13 | Chicho22 | only my side |
| 05:48.16 | carrar | what are you gonna do about traffic goign towars you? |
| 05:48.18 | Chicho22 | i cant do outside i dont have dedicated |
| 05:48.50 | carrar | just use wha tyou have today |
| 05:48.51 | Chicho22 | just so my internal traffic since my upstream is 1mbps |
| 05:49.06 | Chicho22 | to give priority to voice and not my pcs |
| 05:49.18 | Chicho22 | no the stupid dir 825 sucks |
| 05:49.19 | *** join/#asterisk gerhard7 (~gerhard7@82-171-103-215.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 05:49.32 | Chicho22 | i bought it and it is broken for voip |
| 05:49.46 | carrar | worry about QoS once you figure out how to use Asterisk |
| 05:49.48 | Chicho22 | i then bought a wrvs4400n and its broken 2! |
| 05:50.08 | Chicho22 | cause i got 30 day exchange |
| 05:50.09 | Chicho22 | :( |
| 05:50.14 | SeRi | stop buying junk |
| 05:50.27 | Chicho22 | wats good i bought most expensive router at bestbuy |
| 05:50.33 | SeRi | lol |
| 05:50.37 | Chicho22 | wrvs4400n |
| 05:50.39 | SeRi | like I said stop buying junk |
| 05:50.50 | Chicho22 | the guy said it was top of the line |
| 05:50.59 | carrar | thats rebranded linksys crap |
| 05:50.59 | Chicho22 | its for small buisnesses rated |
| 05:51.06 | Chicho22 | shit |
| 05:51.10 | Chicho22 | i got pwned |
| 05:51.12 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:51.14 | carrar | Cisco bought LinkSys |
| 05:51.19 | Chicho22 | sighs ya i know that |
| 05:51.25 | Chicho22 | but linksys is cool |
| 05:51.31 | carrar | it "works" |
| 05:51.33 | Chicho22 | ddwrt |
| 05:51.42 | Chicho22 | makes it good but not this router |
| 05:51.47 | Chicho22 | not supported |
| 05:51.52 | Chicho22 | or its weird |
| 05:51.54 | SeRi | take the router back to him and tell him that I said that hes face looks shit. like the router he sold you |
| 05:52.00 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:52.05 | Chicho22 | ill bring it back |
| 05:52.14 | Chicho22 | wat router i get |
| 05:52.18 | Chicho22 | cuz then = no internet |
| 05:52.19 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:52.26 | coppice | that box has hardware routing, but its still fairly slow on small media packets |
| 05:52.44 | carrar | You don't need anything to get Asterisk up and running |
| 05:52.46 | Chicho22 | and also its broken on qos! |
| 05:52.49 | Chicho22 | for voip |
| 05:53.00 | Chicho22 | no for the voip voice of course |
| 05:53.13 | SeRi | I use pfsense/AstLinux/iptables |
| 05:53.35 | carrar | Use your asterisk box as a router |
| 05:53.46 | Chicho22 | :S for real... |
| 05:53.51 | carrar | that way you don't have to screw with NAT |
| 05:53.57 | Chicho22 | so I have no more house router |
| 05:54.02 | carrar | on interface outside |
| 05:54.05 | carrar | one inside |
| 05:54.13 | Chicho22 | i connect my modem to port eth0 |
| 05:54.22 | Chicho22 | and buy a switch to port eth1? |
| 05:54.25 | *** join/#asterisk singler (~singler@81-7-123-162.static.zebra.lt) |
| 05:54.37 | carrar | yeah |
| 05:54.41 | carrar | any cheap switch is fine |
| 05:54.42 | SeRi | yes* |
| 05:54.57 | Chicho22 | cisco sg102-24 unmanaged? |
| 05:54.58 | SeRi | I smell disaster on the making. |
| 05:55.01 | Chicho22 | like 250$ |
| 05:55.06 | carrar | again thats linksys |
| 05:55.10 | Chicho22 | looool |
| 05:55.16 | Chicho22 | u said any cheap switch |
| 05:55.29 | carrar | go with a 2950T-24 |
| 05:55.31 | carrar | cisco |
| 05:55.36 | carrar | if you want cheap 100meg |
| 05:55.46 | Chicho22 | is that real cisco |
| 05:55.47 | carrar | has two gig ports |
| 05:55.54 | carrar | thats real cisco |
| 05:55.58 | carrar | at ebay prices |
| 05:56.04 | SeRi | very cheap too |
| 05:56.13 | SeRi | its EOL but shit it does the job |
| 05:56.19 | SeRi | and very well |
| 05:56.32 | Chicho22 | they dont make that model nemore though |
| 05:56.42 | carrar | buy it now for $49 |
| 05:56.43 | SeRi | so? |
| 05:56.47 | carrar | make it so |
| 05:56.56 | SeRi | ^^ |
| 05:57.03 | Chicho22 | do they have new version that supports it? |
| 05:57.11 | carrar | new version of what |
| 05:57.12 | Chicho22 | like newer same verion? |
| 05:57.18 | Chicho22 | switch |
| 05:57.18 | carrar | 3650 |
| 05:57.21 | carrar | or 3750 |
| 05:57.27 | carrar | over $1k though |
| 05:57.30 | SeRi | http://www.ebay.com/itm/CISCO-WS-C2950T-24-CATALYST-SWITCH-10-100B-TX-1000Base-T-GIGABIT-UPLINKS-MANAGED-/220882468455?pt=COMP_EN_Hubs&hash=item336d9efe67#ht_1753wt_907 |
| 05:57.31 | Chicho22 | OMG |
| 05:57.32 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 05:58.34 | SeRi | this is what I have.... http://www.provantage.com/zyxel-gs1100-16~7ZYX90E9.htm |
| 05:58.45 | carrar | 2950 will be just fine |
| 05:59.24 | carrar | ZyXEL makes interesting DSL routers |
| 05:59.27 | carrar | modems |
| 05:59.32 | Chicho22 | CISCO 3560X |
| 05:59.33 | carrar | that support SIP |
| 05:59.35 | Chicho22 | .... 5000 |
| 05:59.42 | SeRi | carrar, indeed |
| 05:59.59 | carrar | I tested some 3-4 years ago |
| 06:00.03 | carrar | they were nice back then |
| 06:00.08 | SeRi | yes I agree |
| 06:00.10 | carrar | more pricier though |
| 06:00.16 | SeRi | I use to have a zyxel back than |
| 06:00.19 | SeRi | good old zynos |
| 06:00.20 | SeRi | lol |
| 06:00.27 | SeRi | way back than |
| 06:00.54 | Chicho22 | is http://www.provantage.com/zyxel-gs1100-16~7ZYX90E9.htm |
| 06:00.56 | Chicho22 | managed? |
| 06:01.01 | carrar | personally I run a 3750G at home |
| 06:01.11 | SeRi | I had to buy a zyxal wireless card to upgrade my router to wireless I for got the model. but man it was solid. |
| 06:01.13 | Chicho22 | do i need managed ? |
| 06:01.16 | carrar | they are also quieter |
| 06:01.29 | carrar | Chicho22, no, but it's ncie to have |
| 06:01.49 | carrar | maybe if you want to break out your voice and data networks on different vlans |
| 06:01.50 | SeRi | Chicho22, no. unless youa re going to vlan etc... |
| 06:01.59 | SeRi | though thta switch supports vlan |
| 06:02.00 | Chicho22 | wat more it do? i mean its cool i want to separate 2 subnets one for pcs and one for my server n phones |
| 06:02.07 | Chicho22 | n give priority to phone subnet |
| 06:02.18 | carrar | Cisco 2950T-24 supports vlans |
| 06:02.20 | SeRi | do qos at the router level |
| 06:02.30 | SeRi | set your vlans at the router as well. |
| 06:02.42 | SeRi | is how I have it with pfsense |
| 06:02.43 | Chicho22 | so i need a good router too |
| 06:03.06 | Chicho22 | oh wait u said do that thing with pfsense router |
| 06:03.30 | Chicho22 | 2950t-24 poe? |
| 06:03.37 | carrar | use your linux box as a router |
| 06:03.47 | carrar | 2950 is not poe |
| 06:03.56 | carrar | you don't want to pay for a cisco poe switch |
| 06:04.04 | SeRi | lol |
| 06:04.08 | carrar | unless you have cisco phones only, then you can use a 3550-PWR |
| 06:04.23 | carrar | which is cheap cheap poe for only those phones |
| 06:04.31 | SeRi | Chicho22, I didnt say for you to do it with pfsense. I siad thats how I do it. |
| 06:04.41 | Chicho22 | oh |
| 06:04.41 | SeRi | I use poe injectors. |
| 06:04.53 | carrar | I also use poe injectors at home |
| 06:05.01 | Chicho22 | u use it for business? |
| 06:05.11 | carrar | my home is where I work from |
| 06:05.17 | SeRi | home/office |
| 06:05.19 | carrar | so yes |
| 06:05.22 | SeRi | same here |
| 06:05.25 | Chicho22 | very stable system? |
| 06:05.27 | carrar | cept for right now |
| 06:05.29 | Chicho22 | downtimes? |
| 06:05.32 | carrar | Japan is my office |
| 06:05.44 | SeRi | with earthquakes lol |
| 06:05.46 | Chicho22 | japan is nice |
| 06:05.54 | carrar | yeah with quakes |
| 06:05.56 | Chicho22 | sad about the stuff thats ruining it |
| 06:06.07 | Chicho22 | but probably best place in technology :) |
| 06:06.08 | carrar | I have a T1 at home |
| 06:06.16 | carrar | for my voice and work traffic |
| 06:06.22 | carrar | since I control both ends |
| 06:06.24 | SeRi | oooo you. stop! lol |
| 06:06.24 | Chicho22 | japan is more advanced than rest of world |
| 06:06.35 | Chicho22 | lol noits true i love japanese ppl |
| 06:06.49 | carrar | and I have bonde DSL for everything else |
| 06:06.52 | carrar | bonded |
| 06:06.56 | carrar | via us as well |
| 06:07.05 | Chicho22 | nice but in japan ur upstream is so high |
| 06:07.07 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 06:07.18 | SeRi | carrar, cool. nothing better than a dedicated T1 for voip... mpls? |
| 06:07.21 | carrar | 2 down, 256k up here |
| 06:07.26 | carrar | not that great |
| 06:07.30 | carrar | but voice works perfect over it |
| 06:07.33 | Chicho22 | oh what processor u recommend for pfsense/asterisks/all in one machine |
| 06:07.34 | carrar | all the way back to seattle |
| 06:07.58 | carrar | Chicho22, fastest as you can afford |
| 06:08.06 | carrar | 64bit xeon |
| 06:08.12 | Chicho22 | wow |
| 06:08.13 | SeRi | carrar, nice. beats having 108Mbps/50Mbps and not be able to use it :( |
| 06:08.13 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 06:08.40 | Chicho22 | virtual machines? |
| 06:08.51 | carrar | I don't put asteirsk on anything less they 2 phsycal xeon cpu's |
| 06:08.54 | Chicho22 | or everything pfsense n asterisk in 1 |
| 06:08.55 | carrar | then |
| 06:08.58 | SeRi | never run all of your border in one box |
| 06:09.02 | SeRi | bad practice! |
| 06:09.19 | Chicho22 | ya but asterisks wesite says it needs very little to run |
| 06:09.24 | Chicho22 | why so powerful |
| 06:09.24 | carrar | but thats for work |
| 06:09.32 | carrar | but at hoem anything goes |
| 06:09.41 | carrar | whatever you can afford |
| 06:09.52 | carrar | 32bit is fine |
| 06:10.03 | Chicho22 | i was debating i5 pc |
| 06:10.05 | Chicho22 | 8gb ram |
| 06:10.08 | carrar | 64 is nicer as you can use more memory since memory is cheap |
| 06:10.12 | Chicho22 | 500gb hd 7200 rpm |
| 06:10.16 | Chicho22 | in raid 1 |
| 06:10.18 | Chicho22 | x 2 |
| 06:10.20 | SeRi | I have a Dell GX545 doing my pfsense |
| 06:10.31 | carrar | go buy a cheap HP DL360 G3 |
| 06:10.38 | SeRi | and I have an Alix 2D3 doing asterisk |
| 06:10.48 | carrar | they work great |
| 06:10.53 | SeRi | yes sr :) |
| 06:11.22 | carrar | holy cow |
| 06:11.24 | carrar | $39 ebay |
| 06:11.25 | SeRi | I had to solder a battery holder today to get a stable HW clock but hey its rock solid! |
| 06:11.26 | Chicho22 | n thats for business? |
| 06:11.59 | carrar | You can use a HP DL360 for biz |
| 06:12.08 | carrar | they are solid servers |
| 06:12.32 | Chicho22 | ya but yo so overkill? no |
| 06:12.44 | carrar | they are not overkill |
| 06:12.51 | carrar | they are acceptable |
| 06:13.18 | carrar | if $39 is over kill, whats is not overkill? |
| 06:13.24 | SeRi | lol |
| 06:13.47 | carrar | so a switch and se3rver for under $100 |
| 06:13.59 | carrar | under $80 |
| 06:14.05 | carrar | not including shipping |
| 06:14.15 | Chicho22 | lol oh wait a sec that cheap/ |
| 06:14.16 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 06:14.17 | coppice | + shipping. total $1000 |
| 06:14.23 | SeRi | Chicho22, if you are in the US I can sell you a Dell 1700 series for about 100 dollars plush shipping |
| 06:14.23 | Chicho22 | isnt that server an i7 920? |
| 06:14.24 | carrar | haha |
| 06:14.30 | carrar | no |
| 06:14.43 | carrar | it's a dual xeon CPU 32bit server |
| 06:14.53 | carrar | with dual scsi drives and hw raid |
| 06:15.07 | SeRi | loves hw raid |
| 06:15.07 | Chicho22 | hp dl360? |
| 06:15.10 | carrar | 3.06 ghz if you get the right one |
| 06:15.15 | carrar | yes |
| 06:15.32 | carrar | and you can cram in 8gb of ram |
| 06:15.41 | carrar | plently for home use |
| 06:16.00 | Chicho22 | hp dl360 i find it for 1000$ :S |
| 06:16.06 | carrar | using the special linux build you can use all 8gb |
| 06:16.13 | carrar | instead of the 4gb barrier |
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| 06:16.40 | carrar | ebay "HP DL360 G3" |
| 06:16.41 | Chicho22 | what about buisness use |
| 06:16.54 | carrar | 3rd generation |
| 06:16.56 | carrar | not the latest |
| 06:17.05 | carrar | unles you want the latest |
| 06:17.07 | SeRi | lol special? its not special its called PAE or hugemem :) |
| 06:17.08 | carrar | which is also good |
| 06:17.17 | carrar | yeah |
| 06:17.25 | carrar | thats not in most builds by default |
| 06:17.28 | carrar | so I call it special |
| 06:17.50 | carrar | you have to know this when you are installign your OS |
| 06:17.59 | SeRi | I thought most build now day auto detect your needs thus installing pae if 32bit |
| 06:18.16 | SeRi | at lest fedora is this way |
| 06:18.17 | carrar | centos5 didn't at the time |
| 06:18.23 | Chicho22 | ok so base os |
| 06:18.24 | SeRi | ah centos wont |
| 06:18.28 | Chicho22 | centos or fedora |
| 06:18.31 | SeRi | centos like rhel wont do it |
| 06:18.35 | SeRi | you have to yum install it |
| 06:18.47 | carrar | anyways |
| 06:18.53 | carrar | it's a good cheapass server |
| 06:19.02 | carrar | work horse |
| 06:19.04 | coppice | fedora has always come with PAE kernels |
| 06:19.07 | Chicho22 | would u use virtualization |
| 06:19.13 | carrar | not on that server |
| 06:19.39 | Chicho22 | and if i wanted something real good stable for buisness use in future upgrade my stupid nortel analog office |
| 06:19.44 | SeRi | coppice, I agree. |
| 06:19.45 | Chicho22 | i should get wat kind of server |
| 06:19.51 | Chicho22 | 13 phones at office |
| 06:19.55 | Chicho22 | 1 receptionist |
| 06:20.00 | Chicho22 | 4 voicemails |
| 06:20.02 | Chicho22 | ivr |
| 06:20.05 | Chicho22 | and dats it |
| 06:20.05 | carrar | go get a GoMicro with 32GB ram and dual quad xeon CPU's |
| 06:20.19 | carrar | or better |
| 06:20.28 | SeRi | I would hate having a server unning in my house. just the thought of the fans is driving me crazy... lol Ill stick with embedded :) |
| 06:22.56 | Chicho22 | so for router..... |
| 06:22.58 | coppice | the low power i32100T + an intel H61 motherboard (which seem to consume considerably less power than the third party ones) can make a silent low consumption machine for a home server without much effort |
| 06:23.03 | Chicho22 | virtualization? |
| 06:23.32 | Chicho22 | wat about for small buisness 6-10 lines and 13 extentions |
| 06:24.12 | carrar | HP DL 360 G3 is fine for that |
| 06:24.34 | carrar | with or without a T1 card |
| 06:25.31 | autofsckk | ~~+} |
| 06:26.14 | SeRi | I have 5DID's+1 toll free+1 fax and 10 extensions in my Alix 2D3 50Mhz 256MB DDR2 and 16GBUSB Drive. No issues what so ever. |
| 06:26.46 | SeRi | 500MHz* |
| 06:28.17 | Chicho22 | that server does wat just asterisk |
| 06:28.28 | SeRi | Yes. |
| 06:28.38 | Chicho22 | wat bout routing |
| 06:28.59 | SeRi | I have a Dell GX545 doing my pfsense |
| 06:29.49 | SeRi | actually its a GX520 |
| 06:29.51 | SeRi | mini |
| 06:30.20 | Chicho22 | so 2 pcs |
| 06:30.24 | Chicho22 | y no virtualization? |
| 06:30.30 | SeRi | I also have a GX745 as my web server/icinga/etc... |
| 06:30.32 | carrar | just use iptables on your asterisk box |
| 06:30.56 | SeRi | Chicho22, because having one point of failure on your border is bad practice |
| 06:31.03 | Chicho22 | shit they dont have a simple router that does qos for 1 ip |
| 06:31.44 | Chicho22 | then i can put server ip as priority |
| 06:32.00 | Chicho22 | nething goin out that ip will be priority |
| 06:33.07 | Chicho22 | buy 2 switches |
| 06:33.15 | Chicho22 | put all my pcs on one switch |
| 06:33.27 | carrar | 2950 will do vlans |
| 06:33.34 | carrar | and input queuing |
| 06:34.28 | Chicho22 | so basically have my modem connected to router connected on port 1 to basic switch for pcs and my server on port 2 of router... then my server static ip thats given priority on all traffic in n out then on second ethernet port of server connect another subswitch to all phones? |
| 06:34.35 | carrar | you can map your QoS into CoS |
| 06:34.42 | carrar | so the switch will honor it |
| 06:35.27 | carrar | DSL MODEM --> PC ETH0 --> switch |
| 06:35.32 | carrar | err |
| 06:35.50 | carrar | DSL MODEM --> ETH0 | PC | ETH1 --> switch |
| 06:36.10 | carrar | You could vlans on your PC with eth0 |
| 06:36.14 | carrar | but why |
| 06:36.17 | Chicho22 | but then wat happens is that my configuration relies on my ability to program pfsense |
| 06:36.23 | Chicho22 | its probably cli interface |
| 06:36.32 | Chicho22 | ip table based |
| 06:36.37 | carrar | don't use pfsense |
| 06:36.49 | Chicho22 | and my firewall rules ill get hacked so fast |
| 06:36.59 | carrar | just write your rules in iptables |
| 06:37.17 | Chicho22 | directly plugging my asterisks server to modem |
| 06:37.21 | Chicho22 | man thats like easy access |
| 06:37.24 | Chicho22 | to hackers |
| 06:37.25 | Chicho22 | lol |
| 06:37.31 | carrar | if you open it up, yes |
| 06:37.36 | carrar | but so is anything else |
| 06:37.55 | Chicho22 | ya but with nat internal network hard 2 reach from outside |
| 06:38.05 | Chicho22 | now my server is on the outside world with public ip |
| 06:38.27 | carrar | You're gonna hate IPv6 |
| 06:38.30 | carrar | haha |
| 06:38.31 | Chicho22 | isnt that a basic security rule of thumb always keep ur servers on inside? |
| 06:38.40 | Chicho22 | lol ipv6 ipsec embedded |
| 06:39.13 | carrar | no |
| 06:39.24 | carrar | thats only a rule of thumb if you PC's run windows |
| 06:39.38 | carrar | or have no idea what you are doing |
| 06:39.49 | carrar | in which, you probably shouldn't be doing what you are doign anyways |
| 06:39.56 | Chicho22 | yup |
| 06:40.13 | Chicho22 | but u should never put server on public ip if it not needed to be on public ip |
| 06:40.18 | Chicho22 | if its ftp server one thing |
| 06:40.22 | Chicho22 | web server another |
| 06:40.30 | Chicho22 | but asterisk server unless i got remote extensions |
| 06:40.34 | Chicho22 | no point to do that |
| 06:40.46 | carrar | it will also be your firewall |
| 06:41.00 | carrar | and your NAT server |
| 06:41.04 | carrar | DHCP server |
| 06:41.08 | carrar | DNP too if you want |
| 06:41.10 | carrar | DNS |
| 06:41.17 | carrar | and asterisk |
| 06:41.29 | carrar | and you won't have to deal with all that NAT crap to you ITSP |
| 06:41.30 | Chicho22 | wat i figured is for noob setup cant get hacked kinda thing is |
| 06:42.37 | carrar | if you want 100% don't connect to the intenret |
| 06:42.50 | Chicho22 | modem --> router --->port 1 to switch for all pcs/ port 2 for just (server) --> second switch --> all phones |
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| 06:43.18 | carrar | you don't need 2 switches |
| 06:43.25 | Chicho22 | u need to connect to internet as i have voip lines :( |
| 06:44.17 | carrar | then there is always a chance y ou could get hacked no matter what you do |
| 06:44.22 | Chicho22 | ya true |
| 06:44.30 | Chicho22 | but not trying to provoke it |
| 06:44.35 | carrar | use iptables |
| 06:44.40 | carrar | and be done with it |
| 06:44.55 | carrar | anyways |
| 06:44.59 | carrar | I'm done here |
| 06:45.13 | Chicho22 | iptables set a nat n all too i guess |
| 06:45.17 | Chicho22 | ill take a look at it |
| 06:45.20 | Chicho22 | thanks carrar |
| 06:45.54 | Chicho22 | take care |
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| 09:08.37 | Madkiss | hi there! |
| 09:08.48 | Madkiss | Does asterisk somehow allow me to specify the location of the PID-file on the command-line? |
| 09:14.12 | carrar | asterisk.conf astrundir |
| 09:14.55 | Madkiss | that's not exactly the definition of "on the command line" i'd say |
| 09:15.18 | carrar | thats as close as you are gonna get |
| 09:17.01 | Madkiss | okay, so i can not specify these values when starting asterisk, and if I want to know where the current pid-file is, I will have to parse asterisk.conf and look for astrundir there, right? |
| 09:18.40 | kaldemar | sed -i -e 's#astrundir => .*#astrundir => yourvalue#' /etc/asterisk.conf ; asterisk -vvvvc |
| 09:18.48 | kaldemar | there's command line for you. :) |
| 09:19.03 | kaldemar | there's no option for it in the asterisk binary. |
| 09:19.23 | Madkiss | ah, hm. |
| 09:19.36 | dokg | hi |
| 09:23.39 | Madkiss | well |
| 09:25.34 | phix | hi gang! |
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| 10:00.02 | mechbangirc | I have a TDM2400P card with one daughter FXO card (4-channels). Problem is when I run dahdi_genconf it shows only one channel was configurable out of 4 on that FXO module. |
| 10:11.22 | kaldemar | mechbangirc: maybe dahdi_genconf does not know how many modules you have on the board. add the rest of the channels by hand. |
| 10:14.04 | mechbangirc | Kaldemar: When I add manually it gives error [DAHDI_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 14: Invalid argument (22) |
| 10:14.04 | mechbangirc | Did you forget that FXS interfaces are configured with FXO signalling |
| 10:14.04 | mechbangirc | and that FXO interfaces use FXS signalling?] |
| 10:14.23 | mechbangirc | And I know it is an FXO module |
| 10:15.18 | mechbangirc | moreoever lspci shows card as Ethernet controller, dont know if it is ok! |
| 10:21.04 | mechbangirc | Do I have to care about IRQ? |
| 10:26.19 | kaldemar | it most likely is not an ethernet controller, sounds like your machine doesn't see the card at all. |
| 10:27.47 | mechbangirc | Problem with OS? |
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| 10:35.40 | mechbangirc | Kaldemar: installing elastix just in case. |
| 10:40.33 | mechbangirc | Kaldemar: same result on elastix. |
| 10:46.25 | mechbangirc | Kaldemar: I installed a TDM400P with 2 FXO module on it. lspci shows Communication controller and card along with fxo modules is picked up correctly. Do you think TDM2400P is faulty? |
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| 11:19.21 | carrar | Don't forget it's BANK TRANSFER DAY!! |
| 11:19.25 | carrar | heh |
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| 11:32.36 | dokg | hi, I am installing AsteriskNow, do you suggest me FreePBX or Asterisk-Gui ? |
| 11:46.05 | carrar | I suggest installing Asterisk form source |
| 11:47.10 | dokg | why? |
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| 11:48.41 | carrar | Cause thats what we support here in this channel |
| 11:48.46 | carrar | and it's the best |
| 11:49.05 | carrar | you don't get to really learn the cofnig files with gui based systems |
| 11:53.12 | dokg | carrar, for now I just need a fast prototype, I'll study the whole system when it gets approved. I would like a fast way to make an IVR system temporarily |
| 12:06.51 | dokg | o well, nvm I'll install ubuntu and asterisk raw |
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| 14:29.21 | jc319 | If all you want is to get that IVR up & running ASAP for demonstration purposes, as you said above, installing a GUI would be better (i.e. faster) |
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| 14:50.40 | SeRi | yay no more time drifting on my alix :D |
| 14:51.58 | irroot | girlfriend is bit mifed hijacked her blue tooth handsfree to play music on |
| 14:51.59 | irroot | hi folks |
| 14:53.35 | SeRi | waz up irroot |
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| 14:54.13 | irroot | nothing much enjoying the summer getting a bbq (braai) going by the pool |
| 14:57.21 | blitzrage | morning all! no one has tried integrating asterisk calendar support with caldav in egroupware have they? |
| 14:57.36 | blitzrage | I can't seem to get any data returned, but I also don't see any errors |
| 14:58.20 | SeRi | irroot, nice! |
| 14:58.33 | SeRi | firing up my bbq this afternoon :) |
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| 15:18.15 | irroot | blitzrage you ever seen sogo ?? www.sogo.nu |
| 15:18.37 | blitzrage | irroot: no, what does it do? |
| 15:18.47 | blitzrage | oh it's something like egroupware |
| 15:19.06 | irroot | its groupware and the beta version has native exchange support for lookout muppets |
| 15:20.33 | blitzrage | I see... I have a customer I'm trying to integrate LDAP and CalDAV support in Asterisk with eGroupware |
| 15:20.43 | blitzrage | I'll show them sogo though and see if they want to try it |
| 15:20.54 | blitzrage | they are getting ready to deploy already though |
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| 15:21.29 | irroot | cool good luck with that the dav should be fine with the right url / un/pw |
| 15:21.44 | irroot | ldap works great for address book |
| 15:22.03 | irroot | esp with snom/yealink phones |
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| 15:22.20 | irroot | polycom needs a licence so stoped supporting them |
| 15:22.31 | SeRi | lol |
| 15:22.41 | SeRi | irroot, you use yealinks? |
| 15:23.29 | irroot | sometimes yeah we do one reseller bought pile of them and wanted support for them via auto prov .... |
| 15:23.53 | Naikrovek | irroot: their new firmware doesn't need a license for ldap |
| 15:24.04 | Naikrovek | "so stoped"? |
| 15:24.31 | Naikrovek | 4.0 |
| 15:25.14 | irroot | Naikrovek we have customers with polys but do not supply any more we always warn there licence issues and they should avoid we do use the conf phones still |
| 15:25.23 | blitzrage | irroot: ya it should be, and I think I have the right URL, but still no information is being passed back |
| 15:26.38 | Naikrovek | irroot: well you need to look at UCS 4.0.0 then. license is not needed anymore for recording, ldap directory, and a few other things. |
| 15:26.55 | Naikrovek | only one of the features under the productivity license requires the productivity license anymore, the rest are free |
| 15:29.01 | [TK]D-Fender | LDAP addressbooks are overrated... |
| 15:29.08 | irroot | Naikrovek might look at it again ill tell you they lost out on more than 500 phone sales 2 big sites wanted poly but took our recomendation and went for snom |
| 15:29.34 | [TK]D-Fender | When you can only see maybe 2 entries per page who wants to scroll for 3 minutes to find someone. A sheet of paper taped to the wall = 300% faster |
| 15:29.36 | Naikrovek | snom sucks, but okay. |
| 15:29.42 | Naikrovek | [TK]D-Fender: yup. |
| 15:29.56 | Naikrovek | not all phones have that tiny-ass screen though |
| 15:30.24 | [TK]D-Fender | And I'll take Polycom's quality over trivial functionality any day |
| 15:30.30 | Naikrovek | ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 15:30.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Their core call-handling is largely unmatched |
| 15:31.39 | irroot | Naikrovek [TK]D-Fender not disputing it at all we were doing mostly polycom till they started with this licencing nonsense |
| 15:31.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Naikrovek: You know if they get any more use out of USB than recording & directories on the 650+? |
| 15:31.59 | [TK]D-Fender | Naikrovek: I was hoping for BT support.. |
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| 15:33.33 | Naikrovek | bluetooth? need an adapter for that |
| 15:33.41 | Naikrovek | no hardware for it in the phone |
| 15:34.02 | [TK]D-Fender | Naikrovek: That's what I'm referring to.. USB BT <- |
| 15:34.08 | Naikrovek | oh usb bt |
| 15:34.13 | Naikrovek | good question |
| 15:34.14 | [TK]D-Fender | :p |
| 15:34.41 | [TK]D-Fender | If something I say doesn't make sense..... read it a few more times :) |
| 15:35.01 | [TK]D-Fender | Then check with a physician ;) |
| 15:35.21 | Naikrovek | lol |
| 15:35.27 | Naikrovek | just woke up |
| 15:35.49 | Naikrovek | still spinning up... but yeah BT would be something inexpensive to add to a phone and that would add a ton of value |
| 15:36.28 | [TK]D-Fender | M-F work @ 8am. Get to walk in half asleep and stil be more connected than most. Weekends have mu up @ 8am as well... much further than work for martial arts and have to be ready to KILL :) |
| 15:36.29 | SeRi | I bought an Aastra phone and looking to set it up today. I have a Polycom 501 and is locked to a provider. |
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| 15:36.40 | [TK]D-Fender | has 2 speeds : slow, and KILL. |
| 15:36.45 | whtsup | hello |
| 15:36.50 | SeRi | hola |
| 15:36.57 | whtsup | anyone for help |
| 15:37.56 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: Never seen one you can't factory reset.... |
| 15:38.25 | whtsup | can anyone guide abt jitter buffer |
| 15:38.30 | irroot | whtsup we all need help in here yet there no mental health profesionals :P |
| 15:38.45 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, I have try and I have not have any luck. :( during the boot up process hold a combo of keys and enter mac address. still unable to get to the menus :( |
| 15:39.06 | whtsup | i am using sip .... iax2trunk........iax2trunk...sip(gsm gateway) |
| 15:39.35 | whtsup | voice is choppy on receiver end |
| 15:39.55 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, is there other way to reset a 501? |
| 15:40.14 | whtsup | which to use jitter buffer plz guide |
| 15:46.25 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: You don't have the usual boot menu & pass? key combination is something you use while booted last I checked |
| 15:49.19 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, well when I power up and go to the advance menu I cant get in |
| 15:51.14 | SeRi | I am not sure what to do to get it to factory reset. I have try a combination of things but they all fail. They all involve doing resets while the system is booting up. |
| 15:51.22 | SeRi | I didnt know there was another method |
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| 15:56.08 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, how can I do the boot menu and pass? |
| 16:00.15 | Naikrovek | when you plug the phone in, do you have a menu at all? is there a setup softkey |
| 16:02.50 | SeRi | yes there is Naikrovek |
| 16:03.37 | Naikrovek | okay well there's how you update the phone. do you happen to know the admin pin |
| 16:04.46 | SeRi | no. Thats the problem. I dont have the admin pin |
| 16:05.12 | SeRi | I bought this phone over ebay loooooong time a go. |
| 16:05.35 | SeRi | and I have not been able to use it since. :( no admin password |
| 16:06.50 | [TK]D-Fender | ser456 doesn't work? |
| 16:07.11 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, no :( |
| 16:07.56 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: tried putting up a provisioning folder with just the bootrom in it, setting up tftp and setting opt 66 to see if you can trick it to pull from default? |
| 16:08.33 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: If they were set for TFTP that would let it pull w/o a pass and I think a BR refresh might allow that boot PW to wipe |
| 16:08.53 | SeRi | well I thought about that but I would have to trick it in the dns as well. its looking for a config at some provider |
| 16:10.06 | SeRi | I think it is setup for tft because it wont boot unless it can download a config. |
| 16:10.12 | SeRi | tftp* |
| 16:10.43 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: Yup, DNS fake-out might help |
| 16:12.15 | SeRi | let me setup a wireshark and snif where they are trying to go so I can block it and masquerade the dns |
| 16:13.33 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, where can I get the default files for the phone? |
| 16:13.41 | SeRi | I have a tftp server setup all ready |
| 16:16.03 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: Pull up your model from thir site and you should be able to find it |
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| 16:19.18 | kaushal | Hi |
| 16:19.39 | bulletrtr | Hello. |
| 16:20.02 | kaushal | bulletrtr: hi |
| 16:21.42 | kaushal | I am faced with http://fpaste.org/Ldzw/ |
| 16:21.47 | kaushal | Any clue ? |
| 16:22.35 | kaushal | Let me know if anyone need more information |
| 16:22.47 | [TK]D-Fender | kaushal: Do normal calls work through it? If so, pastebin a good call and another call like this with PRI DEBUG enabeld and we can compare |
| 16:23.16 | kaushal | [TK]D-Fender: please give me a moment |
| 16:24.41 | beek | 'ello [TK]D-Fender |
| 16:24.58 | bulletrtr | What kind of circuit is this? |
| 16:28.20 | kaushal | bulletrtr: E1 |
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| 16:32.18 | irroot | kaushal mmm error 31 http://networking.ringofsaturn.com/Routers/isdncausecodes.php |
| 16:32.21 | irroot | This cause is used to report a normal event only when no other cause in the normal class applies. |
| 16:34.17 | irroot | so it was meant to do so but no reason why :P more info required |
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| 16:58.31 | yebyen | F2Knight: hey my google voice works fine now, I upgraded to asterisk 10 |
| 16:58.35 | yebyen | drat he's gone |
| 17:00.32 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, what do I need from here for the 501? http://support.polycom.com/PolycomService/support/us/support/voice/soundpoint_ip/soundpoint_ip501.html |
| 17:06.18 | [TK]D-Fender | bootrom alone first |
| 17:07.35 | SeRi | ok |
| 17:08.02 | SeRi | just unzip and upload to the tftp root folder? |
| 17:10.41 | [TK]D-Fender | yes |
| 17:11.08 | SeRi | ok working on it. |
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| 17:16.28 | pigpen | hi all. I hope I have a quick question |
| 17:16.40 | pigpen | if anyone is around that is an audiocodes person |
| 17:17.41 | kaldemar | ~ask |
| 17:17.41 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 17:17.42 | pigpen | I have a particular audiocodes that when sending a sip request, sends the call via sip to the correct destination number, however, it sends sip headers identifying itself as 100,101,102 or 103 |
| 17:18.53 | pigpen | Since I don't have a 100, calls into port 1 (i.e.; 100) are fine. Calls into ports 2 - 4 (identifying as 101-103) get rejected as asterisk already has sip peers (polycoms) that are 101 - 103 |
| 17:19.03 | pigpen | kaldemar, yeah, had to type it all out. |
| 17:19.47 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, ok got it all the bootrom files in place. let the phone find them? |
| 17:19.53 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: renumber your device |
| 17:20.01 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: let 'er rip |
| 17:20.13 | SeRi | yes sr :) |
| 17:20.15 | pigpen | [TK]D-Fender, hey, glad to see you are around. |
| 17:20.26 | pigpen | The think is I cannot figure out where to set this in the audiocodes. |
| 17:20.33 | pigpen | I have been digging for hours. |
| 17:20.47 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: renumber your phones :) |
| 17:21.03 | [TK]D-Fender | it's just SIP usernames... |
| 17:21.53 | pigpen | the goofy thing is that I have 10 other locations with the exact same image, firmware and phone extensions. |
| 17:22.19 | pigpen | this one had to be a pain in the ass, naturally, when I had to take my kid in for surgery. |
| 17:22.54 | pigpen | so where would I change the sip usernames? I imagine this is in the audiocodes somewhere. |
| 17:23.01 | pigpen | Oh, FXO's bty. |
| 17:23.22 | pigpen | Also, I rarely go into the web interface, as we network provision via the ini file. |
| 17:24.33 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: I'm talking about your phone |
| 17:24.44 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, how do I tell the phone to contact the tftp server? |
| 17:25.04 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: You're spoofing the DNS... that it where it goes |
| 17:25.28 | pigpen | [TK]D-Fender, so correct me if I am wrong, you are saying to change the extension number or just the peer username? |
| 17:25.50 | [TK]D-Fender | peer |
| 17:26.45 | pigpen | so, change [101] to [201] ? |
| 17:26.51 | pigpen | not trying to be dense. |
| 17:27.05 | [TK]D-Fender | to "anything else" |
| 17:27.09 | [TK]D-Fender | "fred" works. |
| 17:27.39 | pigpen | so is 1XX a taboo exten? I have never used it other than this setup for these stores. (20 done, 360 to go) |
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| 17:29.09 | [TK]D-Fender | numeric usernames alone is usually not a great idea |
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| 17:31.39 | pigpen | so do something like this: http://pastebin.com/9AEH9yeg |
| 17:32.22 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, I am unable to see what is contacting for a provisioning server. Its not going out. I get an error on the screen that sais "unable to contact boot server" |
| 17:32.40 | SeRi | but I dont see any traffic besides to a ntp server |
| 17:32.50 | [TK]D-Fender | check the logs |
| 17:33.12 | SeRi | which logs? |
| 17:33.38 | SeRi | I am caching the traffic whith wireshark |
| 17:34.08 | [TK]D-Fender | TFPT boot logs |
| 17:34.23 | [TK]D-Fender | and if you don't see traffic then it isn't going where you think it is |
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| 17:36.44 | SeRi | ooo yea... no like I said the phone is not passing anything out except traffic for ntp.... So I can not spoof anything if the phone is not passing it. |
| 17:36.59 | SeRi | sorry for got to relay that |
| 17:37.44 | pigpen | [TK]D-Fender, would I then need to set regexten= ? |
| 17:38.18 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: disassociate the concept of number you dial and the peer it calls. thats what you r dialplan is for |
| 17:38.57 | pigpen | [TK]D-Fender, and you are exactly right. That is what my mind is wrapped up on. |
| 17:39.41 | pigpen | I am defiantly hung up on the fact that when phone needs to be numeric. |
| 17:40.52 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: exten => 101,1,Dial(SIP/thatfuckerdownthehall,15) |
| 17:42.13 | pigpen | Am I correct that when you have a variable such as extend => _1XX it can reference the regexten= setting in the peer in sip.conf ? |
| 17:42.26 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, any other thoughts or way to force it to tftp? you mention something about opt 66? |
| 17:43.23 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: Not quite. Regexten is practically worthless IMO |
| 17:43.41 | pigpen | yeah, I have never used it. |
| 17:43.44 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: If you saw where it was looking to connect to and you failed to spoof.. then fix your spoof. |
| 17:44.07 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: [thatfuckerdownthehall} <- the end |
| 17:44.09 | [TK]D-Fender | :) |
| 17:44.18 | [TK]D-Fender | ]* |
| 17:44.30 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, no I did not. Its not going out searching for a server. |
| 17:44.35 | pigpen | heh. you know me? haha |
| 17:45.37 | pigpen | Now I am just trying to figure out how to make the number to [thatfuckerdownthehall] in a variable. Because, there is a mess of fuckersdowntheall. |
| 17:46.09 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: why do you believe you need some soty of variable? |
| 17:46.16 | [TK]D-Fender | sort* |
| 17:46.17 | pigpen | short of making entries for each |
| 17:47.05 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: Make entries each |
| 17:47.10 | pigpen | So use my fancy scripts and my realtime entires and make entires. |
| 17:47.12 | pigpen | yeah |
| 17:47.22 | pigpen | well, less variables, faster processing |
| 17:47.54 | pigpen | [TK]D-Fender, well, thanks again. You have unwrapped my brain and gave me more work. ;) |
| 17:48.18 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: Consider it healthy catch up" :) |
| 17:48.30 | pigpen | or a healthy bitch slap. |
| 17:49.54 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, i think i got it... |
| 17:53.33 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, I am in the boot menu. |
| 17:53.45 | SeRi | BootServer: Option 66 |
| 17:53.55 | SeRi | BootSrv: IP Address |
| 17:54.02 | [TK]D-Fender | it took the new BR and lets you in now? |
| 17:54.28 | [TK]D-Fender | You should see a log entry in the tftpboot folder |
| 17:54.45 | SeRi | I did the mac address reset during boot up and it let me in with default password of 456 |
| 17:54.57 | pigpen | [TK]D-Fender, so would you have any idea why I have 10 or so other deployments with the same hardware, firmware, software, versions etc?and this is the first deployment that is giving me problems? |
| 17:55.05 | pigpen | just trig to rationalize it. |
| 17:55.14 | pigpen | s/trig/trying |
| 17:56.02 | [TK]D-Fender | pigpen: Nothing rational about your argument yet... I'll let you know if that changes. Till then I'm going to grab some more popcorn and lean the seat back. This show is GREAT :) |
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| 17:56.22 | pigpen | heh, tks. my thoughts tood. |
| 17:56.25 | pigpen | s/tood/too |
| 17:57.25 | [TK]D-Fender | \o/ |
| 17:57.25 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, Now that I am in this menu do I put the default sip.ld files in the tftp root folder? |
| 17:58.08 | [TK]D-Fender | serWell youre IN. you said you couldn't |
| 17:58.37 | SeRi | well this is the boot menu. I still cant get in the admin area in the main menu of the phone |
| 17:58.38 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: Go unpack a newer SIP app into there... |
| 17:59.12 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, I think thats what I am trying to do just erase everything and have it fresh. Is that what a SIP app would do? |
| 17:59.42 | [TK]D-Fender | yup, if you upgrade then it will flush everything local and you'll be able to start fresh |
| 18:00.12 | SeRi | ok so I have the SoundPoint IP and SoundStation IP SIP 3.1.7 Legacy [Combined] |
| 18:00.25 | SeRi | get those files and just upload them to the root folder of the tftp? |
| 18:02.23 | [TK]D-Fender | yup |
| 18:02.28 | [TK]D-Fender | reboot should take them |
| 18:03.07 | SeRi | do I still need to update the bootrom? |
| 18:04.45 | [TK]D-Fender | Apparently not... |
| 18:05.14 | SeRi | ok |
| 18:06.56 | Kobaz | anyone been playing with 4.0 polycom firmware? |
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| 18:12.34 | Naikrovek | no but i want to |
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| 18:31.48 | tapout | from the asterisk console, can i initiate a phone call to myself? I want to ring my cell phone as I lost it |
| 18:32.26 | BlackBishop | tapout: if you have some sort of datacard that is linked to your gsm network .. I guess you could do that |
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| 18:37.15 | Kobaz | tapout: if you have some sort of access to the pstn, you can Originate() |
| 18:37.48 | Kobaz | or just Dial() |
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| 18:58.57 | Kobaz | i ran out of megapath mints |
| 18:59.11 | Kobaz | i should have picked up two containers |
| 19:08.26 | tapout | ok thanks, found my phone at the foot of the bed :) |
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| 20:05.45 | SeRi | [TK]D-Fender, just wanted to say that it worked :) |
| 20:05.59 | SeRi | Thanks [TK]D-Fender ! |
| 20:06.14 | [TK]D-Fender | SeRi: you're welcome |
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| 20:07.58 | SeRi | if I update the xml file would tthe phone know the next time it boot there is a new cfg? |
| 20:16.11 | [TK]D-Fender | yes |
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| 20:32.50 | Kobaz | busily writes some coed |
| 20:33.01 | Kobaz | code |
| 20:33.01 | Kobaz | blarg |
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| 23:45.05 | autofsckk | hello, anybody using voip over sattelite internet? does it work? experiences? |
| 23:46.06 | bulletrtr | I have some customers who have left our radio phone system for VOIP and satellite. It must have some reasonable level of service. |
| 23:47.15 | WIMPy | It works, but the delay is bad, off course. |
| 23:47.45 | bulletrtr | Any idea how bad? That is what I thought too, but I have people that use it. |
| 23:48.05 | bulletrtr | My wife is prompting me to go. Adios. |
| 23:48.17 | autofsckk | bye bulletrtr and thanks for answering |
| 23:48.24 | autofsckk | WIMPy: have you tried it? |
| 23:48.48 | WIMPy | No, but I know someone who has. |
| 23:49.22 | WIMPy | A normal sat phone already has a bad delay and puttin IP on top does make it worse. |
| 23:50.24 | WIMPy | Although the difference may not be that big compared to todays digital sat phones. |
| 23:50.37 | autofsckk | im googling some info about that, but i have some 2005 info :S |
| 23:51.03 | WIMPy | I don;t think there has been anything new since then. |
| 23:53.47 | autofsckk | theres from 1 to 1.5 s lag |
| 23:55.18 | SwK | voip works over vsat |
| 23:55.44 | SwK | its just really expensive unless you use something like G723.1 and increase packetization from 20ms to something like 60 or 80ms |
| 23:56.34 | SwK | but like WIMPy said the delay is just a pain sometimes |
| 23:56.48 | SwK | takes a while to bounce a signal off a geosync satelight |
| 23:57.23 | autofsckk | thanks for the info |
| 23:57.40 | autofsckk | SwK: have you done it? |
| 23:57.54 | SwK | yeah |
| 23:58.04 | SwK | used to be the easiest way to get calls in and out of .ph heh |
| 23:58.15 | SwK | damned rebels kept blowing up the fiber over there |