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| 00:23.00 | sontek_ | If I want to setup 4 phones for an office in Chile so they can make calls within the united states, whats the best way to do that? What are some cheap IP phones I can get? |
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| 01:11.52 | jpsharp | Do the phones need to call each other? |
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| 01:18.31 | obnauticus | So I am testing out asterisk-gui and after adding an extension and adding that extension to a `dialplan', the console displays this error when I try to originate a call between peer at SIP/20 to peer SIP/10 |
| 01:18.33 | obnauticus | http://pastebin.com/h8N10hWY |
| 01:22.40 | WIMPy | That looks broken. |
| 01:23.20 | obnauticus | Yeah... |
| 01:23.28 | WIMPy | But you need to try in #asterisk-gui. We don;t use the GUIs in here. |
| 01:24.03 | obnauticus | Okay, hopefully it's not dead. |
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| 02:31.50 | sontek_ | jpsharp: The phones don't have to call each other, the important part is calling out |
| 02:32.04 | sontek_ | if they could call each other (or forward calls) but thats not a priority |
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| 02:32.10 | sontek_ | they will all be in the same house |
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| 05:25.57 | flyingbull | Anyone actually awake in here? |
| 05:27.40 | WIMPy | define success |
| 05:28.46 | flyingbull | Good morning everyone. I'm thinking about making my Queues put the MixMonitor files into a seperate location for each queue. |
| 05:29.47 | flyingbull | So after reading the queue.conf.sample, I saw that it said you can execute a command after the Mixmonitor completes. It seems I should put it into the dial plan just before I send them to the queue. Is that it? |
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| 05:37.35 | kaldemar | flyingbull: yes, see "core show application MixMonitor" |
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| 06:02.26 | CommaCrazy | morning all |
| 06:03.50 | CommaCrazy | for a commercial use which version is more secure-able the 10.x or 1.8.x? |
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| 06:05.04 | [TK]D-Fender | Same thing |
| 06:06.09 | CommaCrazy | so u would recommend 10.x |
| 06:06.45 | [TK]D-Fender | 1.8 has longer support |
| 06:06.52 | [TK]D-Fender | it is an LTS release. |
| 06:07.08 | [TK]D-Fender | When 11 comes out 10 will not have long before it's on security updates only |
| 06:07.18 | CommaCrazy | :) ty |
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| 06:38.03 | prometheanfire | anyone with a pciexpress aex410 that can give me the output of lspci -t and lspci please? |
| 06:38.19 | prometheanfire | is checking if digium still uses pcie-pci bridges |
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| 09:19.20 | ChrisInSydney | hi all |
| 09:19.58 | ChrisInSydney | A quick question re cdr_mysql and cdr_adaptive_odbc |
| 09:21.17 | ChrisInSydney | I am assuming that the push is to drop anything specifically mysql and have all database access via ODBC |
| 09:21.20 | ChrisInSydney | ? |
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| 11:49.09 | rjvvliet | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.14 | rjvvliet | General question for anyone? how can i hangup a sip channel when "channel request hangup" does not hangup the channel, got a SIP channel that keeps a phone busy. |
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| 11:55.48 | tomdm | if you restart asterisk all channels get closed. But on a production system you better do it after hours... And if it is a 24/7 system... then i have to think of another way... |
| 11:55.51 | schmidts | rjvvliet which asterisk version? |
| 11:56.07 | rjvvliet | schmidts: Sorry, Asterisk 1.8.6 |
| 11:56.27 | schmidts | rjvvliet could be a deadlock and then your only way of solving this is to restart asterisk |
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| 11:58.20 | rjvvliet | schmidts: i have found what caused the channel to hung, its a directed Pickup and the was no RTp whitin the timout. => Disconnecting call 'SIP/423-00012f20' for lack of RTP activity in 31 seconds |
| 11:59.54 | schmidts | ok then it sounds like a deadlock, i remember a lot of fixing deadlocks depending to pickups so you might try to upgrade to the latest 1.8er version |
| 11:59.55 | rjvvliet | tomdm: schmidts: PBX is processing 700calls a day ;-), there is no silent moment, so will have to wait till after work hours. |
| 12:00.15 | schmidts | 700 concurrent calls or calls per day? |
| 12:00.45 | rjvvliet | schmidts: yeah, upgrade is being planned but got lost of custom patches ;-) |
| 12:01.01 | rjvvliet | schmidts: my bad.... it not concurrent.... it's the total volume...... |
| 12:01.51 | schmidts | i guess its still very hard to find a silent place with 700 calls per day ;) i have the same problem but i have around 15k calls per day :D |
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| 12:17.11 | din3sh | hey all |
| 12:18.26 | rjvvliet | schmidts: i think i found the bug report. https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-18533 |
| 12:19.04 | rjvvliet | schmidts: reports the same log messages a my problem, so i know what to do if it happens to often ;-( |
| 12:22.21 | schmidts | sounds like your problem ;) |
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| 13:05.01 | Kalidarn | hi, does anyone know if DEBUG_THREADS works on FreeBSD? |
| 13:05.38 | Kalidarn | because i tried that on freebsd with version 1.8.13 and i get a segfault all the time |
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| 13:17.33 | Kalidarn | Qwell: I think it was you that told me to enable DONT_OPTIMIZE and DEBUG_THREADS |
| 13:17.54 | Kalidarn | i guess I'll have to settle for DONT_OPTIMIZE only |
| 13:18.14 | Kalidarn | if that will even let me get a proper backtrace |
| 13:23.54 | Kalidarn | so i'm not quite sure if that's still relevant today http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+debugging#TipsforAsterisk14 |
| 13:23.59 | Kalidarn | was written for astersik 1.4 |
| 13:24.03 | Kalidarn | *asterisk |
| 13:24.23 | PhoenixMage | Hi guys, I am using chan-sccp-b trunk and I have to hangup the phone twice to get a call to hang up |
| 13:24.30 | PhoenixMage | Anyone seen similar behaviour? |
| 13:24.37 | Kalidarn | no i haven't |
| 13:24.45 | Kalidarn | i use ChanSCCP B too |
| 13:24.48 | Kalidarn | what version |
| 13:24.55 | Kalidarn | what version of asterisk are you using? |
| 13:25.22 | PhoenixMage | trunk on 10.4.0 |
| 13:25.32 | Kalidarn | oh then i'm not sure, i don't use 10 |
| 13:25.58 | Kalidarn | dev version of sccp on a dev version of asterisk, could be a lot of things :) |
| 13:26.05 | Kalidarn | can you check and see if it happens on 1.8? |
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| 13:28.01 | PhoenixMage | Dont have a 1.8 install |
| 13:28.44 | kaldemar | Kalidarn: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Debugging |
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| 13:32.44 | Kraln | begged/borrowed/stole a gxp2020, no more softphones for me :) |
| 13:32.50 | acidfoo | PhoenixMage, what type of phone you need to support ? |
| 13:35.14 | prometheanfire | anyone with a pciexpress aex410 that can give me the output of lspci -t and lspci please? |
| 13:35.37 | PhoenixMage | acidfoo: 7975G and a 7925 |
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| 13:36.20 | acidfoo | ok |
| 13:37.08 | PhoenixMage | Was running SIP on the 7975 but 7925 is skinny only and wanted to have a play with sccp anyway |
| 13:40.29 | Kalidarn | actually kaldemar i don't even see BETTER_BACKTRACES in the menuselect |
| 13:41.38 | acidfoo | PhoenixMage, I'm working on an sccp implementation, but I don't support those phone ;) |
| 13:42.23 | acidfoo | PhoenixMage, http://documentation.xivo.fr/dev/administration/sccp/sccp.html#features |
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| 14:26.44 | Kalidarn | how does one enable BETTER_BACKTRACES i didn't notice that option in menuselect |
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| 14:27.12 | Kalidarn | is that because I am on FreeBSD? |
| 14:29.40 | Kalidarn | i installed devel/libbfd but it didn't seem to make any difference to menuselect when i did ./configure again |
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| 14:30.48 | darkdrgn2k3 | Morning all |
| 14:30.57 | darkdrgn2k3 | any one here have any dealings with a Tadiran telephone system? |
| 14:32.12 | coppice | there's a name I haven't heard for a while |
| 14:32.29 | darkdrgn2k3 | haha that good a :-S |
| 14:33.23 | darkdrgn2k3 | know anythign about them? |
| 14:33.35 | coppice | support can be a problem if you can't read Hebrew |
| 14:34.02 | darkdrgn2k3 | hmm explains it.. sales guy is a jew... |
| 14:34.10 | darkdrgn2k3 | i hope his support enginers are oo |
| 14:35.01 | darkdrgn2k3 | I just dont understand why these phone systems still use the VOICEMAIL PORTS methos of voicemails... |
| 14:35.07 | darkdrgn2k3 | asterisk is SO much better iun SO many wayts.. |
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| 14:36.32 | Kalidarn | http://www.tadiranamerica.com/ is that their website? |
| 14:36.46 | darkdrgn2k3 | well thats their logo |
| 14:36.51 | darkdrgn2k3 | so i woudl asume so |
| 14:37.04 | Kalidarn | well Spanish is one of the languages and English |
| 14:37.12 | Kalidarn | you'd think it would have good spanish support maybe |
| 14:37.26 | darkdrgn2k3 | Perfect... except i dont speak spanish! |
| 14:37.31 | Kalidarn | lol |
| 14:37.47 | darkdrgn2k3 | I got some guy from the US comming tomorrow trying to sell me on buying one of these.. |
| 14:37.57 | Kalidarn | i would stay clear |
| 14:37.58 | darkdrgn2k3 | i need to have some AMMO to get him of my back |
| 14:37.58 | Kalidarn | i see |
| 14:38.01 | Kalidarn | too much stock art |
| 14:38.08 | darkdrgn2k3 | LMAO |
| 14:38.09 | Kalidarn | sites with too many happy white looking women on them |
| 14:38.16 | Kalidarn | make me think something dodgy is up |
| 14:38.20 | Kalidarn | http://www.tadirantele.com/ |
| 14:38.22 | darkdrgn2k3 | i LOVE your valuation of a company... |
| 14:38.34 | Kalidarn | also the fact ive never heard of them |
| 14:38.43 | Kalidarn | i have heard of polycom though they proudly put that logo there |
| 14:38.46 | darkdrgn2k3 | their are sopposed to be big... i dont klnow |
| 14:39.03 | darkdrgn2k3 | the Tadiran phones ( i think ) are rebagged polycoms iirc |
| 14:39.15 | Kalidarn | lol |
| 14:39.20 | Kalidarn | polycom is big |
| 14:39.23 | Kalidarn | i don't think tadiran is |
| 14:39.28 | Kalidarn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.46 | Kalidarn | though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_Israel_Investments you'd think are fairly big |
| 14:40.10 | Kalidarn | Headquarters Yehud, Israel |
| 14:40.16 | Kalidarn | thats probably why most of them speak hebrew |
| 14:40.29 | darkdrgn2k3 | heh, |
| 14:40.33 | darkdrgn2k3 | the boxes look plastiky too |
| 14:40.43 | Kalidarn | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadiran |
| 14:40.45 | Kalidarn | im not even sure |
| 14:40.46 | Kalidarn | looks like |
| 14:40.53 | Kalidarn | a lot of companies all under the "Tadiran" brand |
| 14:41.04 | Kalidarn | what i find rather amusing |
| 14:41.08 | Kalidarn | is it has "iran" in the name |
| 14:41.11 | Kalidarn | yet it is in israel |
| 14:41.28 | darkdrgn2k3 | Merger of two companies.. Tadir and Ran |
| 14:41.35 | Kalidarn | oh okay :P |
| 14:41.47 | coppice | Tadiran is a pretty big company, into various interesting technologies |
| 14:42.02 | Kalidarn | yeah thats what that wiki page seems to insinuate |
| 14:42.09 | darkdrgn2k3 | the telco wikipadia page is soo ussles thought |
| 14:42.27 | Kalidarn | all their companies though are owned by someone else mostly |
| 14:42.32 | darkdrgn2k3 | "controlled by the Shlomo Group " how much more hebre can you get |
| 14:42.33 | Kalidarn | Tadiran Batteries (owned by Saft Groupe S.A.) |
| 14:42.36 | Kalidarn | Tadiran Telecommunications (merged with ECI Telecom) |
| 14:42.40 | Kalidarn | Tadiran Electronic Systems, Tadiran Spectralink, Tadiran Communications -> Elbit Systems |
| 14:42.42 | Kalidarn | Tadiran LifeCare (owned by Aerotel Medical Systems) |
| 14:42.45 | Kalidarn | etc |
| 14:42.47 | Kalidarn | so do they actually own anything? |
| 14:42.54 | coppice | I used some interesting components and batteries from them in the 70s |
| 14:43.47 | prometheanfire | anyone using an aex410 pci-express verions? |
| 14:44.05 | coppice | that sounds like Tadiran has been chopped into pieces and sold off to others in the same sector |
| 14:44.11 | Kalidarn | The company does not exist as a conglomerate anymore. The brand name survived through the former conglomerate's many spin-offs and sold divisions. They include: |
| 14:44.13 | Kalidarn | yeah |
| 14:44.23 | Kalidarn | so some of its brands might be good some of them might be shit |
| 14:44.37 | Kalidarn | they all just have the same Tadiran in the name probably for marketing reasons |
| 14:44.44 | Kalidarn | so people are like "oh they are big" |
| 14:44.50 | Kalidarn | but those seperate companies are unrelated. |
| 14:45.25 | Kalidarn | and to be honest if they just sell rebadged polycom devices |
| 14:45.32 | Kalidarn | why buy from them and not from polycom |
| 14:45.37 | coppice | their batteries used to make saft look sick and it seems saft now own them |
| 14:45.49 | darkdrgn2k3 | because they also hav elots of MACS that are "tadirans" while true polycoms arent :-P |
| 14:45.53 | Kalidarn | i guess they might be "cheaper" but they might also lack the support polycom would give too, so who knows |
| 14:46.25 | coppice | what support did polycom ever provide? :-\ |
| 14:46.37 | Kalidarn | well i don't know i use cisco :P |
| 14:46.39 | darkdrgn2k3 | and if you dont have a tadiran sip phone, you need a license |
| 14:46.57 | darkdrgn2k3 | Rgith now Cisco is at the top of my list follwoed by Shoretel lol |
| 14:47.14 | Kalidarn | cisco might be proprietary, and expensive but least it works good |
| 14:47.25 | Kalidarn | and their phones are well supported by things like sccp |
| 14:47.27 | Kalidarn | b |
| 14:47.30 | coppice | cisco is typically used by people who don't know |
| 14:47.43 | Kalidarn | well that's probably true too |
| 14:47.49 | Kalidarn | i didn't know much before dealing with it |
| 14:47.54 | darkdrgn2k3 | and when the nukes hit the only thing that wkll survive are Cockroaches, Twikinies and Ciscos |
| 14:48.01 | darkdrgn2k3 | well i kinda knwo |
| 14:48.22 | darkdrgn2k3 | and im torn between the simplistic archetecture of Shoretel and a Cisco |
| 14:49.03 | Kalidarn | i must say though every cisco phone ive used has had a nice "feel" |
| 14:49.17 | darkdrgn2k3 | i like he cisco phones... |
| 14:49.24 | Kalidarn | nice and firm :) |
| 14:49.59 | coppice | so you think overly weight with cheap bits of steel == firm and a nice feel? |
| 14:50.32 | coppice | they fall apart pretty easily, and until recently had the nastiest LCDs around |
| 14:50.54 | Kalidarn | well i guess i don't throw mine at a wall so i can't say ive tested that side of it |
| 14:51.30 | NotHere | coppice, did they fix their horrible LCDs? On which phones? |
| 14:51.41 | Kalidarn | probably referring to the new color ones |
| 14:51.55 | Kalidarn | vs the old b&w ones |
| 14:52.19 | coppice | the new black and while ones are also of a more respectable quality and resolution |
| 14:52.42 | Kalidarn | and i must agree with you |
| 14:52.46 | Kalidarn | they aren't the best |
| 14:52.47 | NotHere | the b&w and the monochromes with backlight are shit... |
| 14:52.49 | darkdrgn2k3 | have you sseen the new ones with a backpack |
| 14:52.52 | Kalidarn | especially the 7912s |
| 14:52.56 | darkdrgn2k3 | Phone + Thin client in 1 |
| 14:53.24 | NotHere | coppice, are you talking about the 50x/30x series or another? |
| 14:53.29 | Kalidarn | darkdrgn2k3: have you looked at alcatel? |
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| 14:55.08 | Kalidarn | i know someone with some Aastra phones that he thinks are okay |
| 14:55.23 | leifmadsen | meh |
| 14:55.43 | leifmadsen | I've been using the configuration files from Polycom, Aastra, Panasonic, and Snom recently, and Polycom is the most sane |
| 14:55.48 | leifmadsen | Aastra would be 2nd in that list |
| 14:56.02 | leifmadsen | Panasonics are always at the bottom in my opinion |
| 14:56.47 | pigpen | leifmadsen, the new digium phones seem to have a nice and straight forward config (if manually config'ing) |
| 14:56.57 | leifmadsen | oh right, I did use those too -- I lik ethem |
| 14:56.59 | pigpen | ie: deploy in a similar fashion as the polycom |
| 14:57.06 | leifmadsen | similar and simpler |
| 14:57.27 | pigpen | yeah, they are really keeping it simple. Polycom almost goes overboard compared to them. |
| 14:57.29 | leifmadsen | the Digium phones are probably some of the easiest to deploy via XML files I've found, so yes I would agree with you |
| 14:57.40 | leifmadsen | ya, polycom has recently simplified their configs for the 4.x series |
| 14:57.53 | Kalidarn | so can anyone tell me why i dont see BETTER_BACKTRACES as an option in menuselect https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace |
| 14:57.54 | leifmadsen | you no longer have to specify the defaults, just what you wan tto change |
| 14:57.57 | fubada | however polycom is still a giant pain in the ass |
| 14:58.06 | fubada | their xml documentation sucks |
| 14:58.12 | Kalidarn | how about cisco? |
| 14:58.17 | pigpen | I had to fight Digium a bit, as they wanted me to use their "provisioning" builds, which we can't use at the moment. (and I did't write my own provisioning scripts for nothing) |
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| 14:58.35 | leifmadsen | fubada: I disagree wholeheartedly |
| 14:58.40 | fubada | im using phoneprov with aastra and polycom |
| 14:58.51 | leifmadsen | after looking at documentation for other manufacturers, Polycom is well and beyond the best at documenting |
| 14:59.06 | fubada | heh well its likely just my lack of experience |
| 14:59.07 | Kalidarn | i've found the XML CiscoIPPhoneDirectory works nicely with the 7912s but i cannot get it to work on the 7960s for the life of me |
| 14:59.26 | Kalidarn | it just does not appear |
| 14:59.27 | pigpen | fubada, yeah, I agree with leifmadsen. I deployed 40 Poly's, 3 Pan's and 3 Audiocodes for a customer. I didn't think twice about the Polycoms. |
| 14:59.34 | pigpen | the others...well, I was a bit unsure. |
| 14:59.40 | pigpen | but they worked fine. |
| 14:59.51 | pigpen | Oh, this was 2 days ago. |
| 14:59.52 | leifmadsen | for Panasonic make sure you don't have trailing whitespace or they don't deploy |
| 14:59.58 | fubada | for me aastra was the simplest, but it is not xml |
| 15:00.01 | pigpen | heh. good to know. |
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| 15:00.48 | pigpen | leifmadsen, I just remembered, on my cordless base, it seems that every extension rings to every handheld. I need to find out how to eliminate that, rather than going to the web interface to do so. |
| 15:02.14 | Kalidarn | so in i wonder where Qwell is when you need him |
| 15:02.49 | leifmadsen | Qwell: ^^^ |
| 15:02.53 | pigpen | Oh, the reason I clicked on the channel: I installed this setup in a Harley Davidson dealer. Quite loud in their showroom (yes, they to start up the bikes). I need to bump up the volume to the handheld, beyond polycom's limits. |
| 15:03.12 | leifmadsen | pigpen: VOLUME() :) |
| 15:03.14 | darkdrgn2k3 | i hate microsoft |
| 15:03.16 | pigpen | I have had a mixed bag of results doing so on the Audiocodes. |
| 15:03.22 | Kalidarn | darkdrgn2k3: whats new |
| 15:03.32 | pigpen | yeah, poly is maxed. |
| 15:03.37 | Qwell | O.o |
| 15:04.03 | Kalidarn | so Qwell do you know why i might not be able to find BETTER_BACKTRACES? |
| 15:04.11 | pigpen | is the better way to address this is by bumping up the rx gain in the sip.cfg in the polycom config? |
| 15:04.11 | Kalidarn | on FreeBSD 9.0 https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Getting+a+Backtrace |
| 15:04.16 | darkdrgn2k3 | so for office actication i type in the code to the automated system |
| 15:04.28 | darkdrgn2k3 | they TRANSFER me to a warm body who asks me the first 4 and last 4 numbers |
| 15:04.30 | Kalidarn | also using DEBUG_THREADS causes astrisk to segfault 100% of the time when built from source manually |
| 15:04.33 | Kalidarn | not from their ports system |
| 15:04.34 | darkdrgn2k3 | then thye transfer me BACK to a sysem |
| 15:04.35 | darkdrgn2k3 | wf? |
| 15:04.42 | Kalidarn | it segfaults there too, but yeah |
| 15:04.59 | Qwell | Kalidarn: You need to compile with dev mode |
| 15:05.05 | Qwell | configure, rather |
| 15:05.11 | Kalidarn | ohhh |
| 15:05.15 | Kalidarn | the wiki didn't mention this |
| 15:05.48 | pigpen | leifmadsen, crap, there's a dialplan volume function? haha! |
| 15:05.51 | pigpen | duh... |
| 15:06.19 | Kalidarn | how would i do this? |
| 15:06.30 | Kalidarn | nm found it --enable-dev-mode |
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| 15:16.27 | Kalidarn | Qwell: is it in the compiler flags menu |
| 15:17.14 | Kalidarn | because i did ./configure --enable-dev-mode in the main asterisk directory |
| 15:17.24 | Kalidarn | and cd menuselect ./configure --enable-dev-mode |
| 15:17.28 | Kalidarn | configure:5804: running /bin/sh ./configure --disable-option-checking '--prefix=/usr/local' '--enable-dev-mode' --cache-file=/dev/null --srcdir=. |
| 15:17.34 | Kalidarn | yet it still doesn't seem to work |
| 15:17.38 | Qwell | Does FreeBSD have the library for it? |
| 15:17.49 | Kalidarn | yes deve/libbfd is installed |
| 15:18.07 | Kalidarn | or did it need something else |
| 15:18.14 | Kalidarn | the wiki only mentions libbfd |
| 15:18.20 | Qwell | What's all this other crap in the command? |
| 15:18.28 | Kalidarn | that is from config.log |
| 15:18.40 | Kalidarn | so obviously dev mode is working but the BETTER_BACKTRACES option isn't. |
| 15:18.46 | Kalidarn | (i didn't out those other things in there) |
| 15:19.31 | Qwell | What exactly are you typing? |
| 15:19.44 | Kalidarn | ./configure --enable-dev-mode |
| 15:19.49 | Qwell | and then? |
| 15:19.57 | Kalidarn | make menuselect |
| 15:20.10 | Qwell | shrugs |
| 15:20.17 | Kalidarn | and then i am going into the same menu that has the DEBUG_THREADS and DONT_OPTIMIZE |
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| 15:20.35 | Kalidarn | i tried enabling it from the commandline to ie with: |
| 15:20.38 | Kalidarn | menuselect/menuselect --enable BETTER_BACKTRACES menuselect.makeopts |
| 15:20.48 | Kalidarn | from just the root asterisk source directory, and that didn't work either. |
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| 15:22.31 | drmessano | Kalidarn, do you even see it in the compiler flags menu, or is it XXX'ed out? |
| 15:22.40 | Kalidarn | not even in the menu |
| 15:23.19 | Kalidarn | note this is asterisk-1.6.2.24 |
| 15:23.27 | Kalidarn | but it says its supported in 1.4-1.8 |
| 15:24.12 | drmessano | I do nothing but run 'make menuselect' and go to 'compiler flags' and it is there.. Just XXX'ed out here due to missing libraries |
| 15:24.25 | drmessano | Not sure what's different in 1.6.2.x |
| 15:24.59 | Kalidarn | the only crossed out ones for me is XXX USE_HOARD_ALLOCATOR |
| 15:25.13 | Kalidarn | XXX RADIO_RTX and XXX RADIO_XPMRX |
| 15:25.15 | Kalidarn | ill try 1.8 |
| 15:26.05 | Kalidarn | although I do need to be able to to do it with 1.6 as ChanSCCP-B 3.1.3 has a regression that didn't exist in 3.1.2, that i need to debug... |
| 15:26.16 | Kalidarn | (doesn't support 1.8 yet, that's in SVN 4.0) |
| 15:27.07 | Kalidarn | whatever the change was might exist in trunk for 4.0 so it'd be nice to sort it out :) |
| 15:29.56 | Kalidarn | okay it works for 1.8 |
| 15:30.30 | Kalidarn | so it must be some problem with the configure file for 1.6 |
| 15:30.37 | Kalidarn | interestingly enough some of the deps are missing. |
| 15:31.02 | Kalidarn | Depends on: BFD(E), DLADDR(E) |
| 15:31.13 | Kalidarn | so maybe with 1.6 if the deps are missing the option just doesn't work at all |
| 15:31.30 | Qwell | umm |
| 15:31.32 | Qwell | ~upgrade asterisk |
| 15:31.36 | Qwell | ~upgradeasterisk |
| 15:31.36 | infobot | Before requesting assistance, you should be running the latest version of a supported release branch. See the channel topic for the latest versions available in currently supported branches. |
| 15:32.36 | Kalidarn | yes i thought you might say that. |
| 15:32.43 | Qwell | Then why did you bother asking? |
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| 15:33.01 | Qwell | Those versions are not supported. Period. |
| 15:33.28 | Kalidarn | well i guess ill never find out what it was then :P |
| 15:33.43 | Qwell | A crash in an old version? Nobody cares. |
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| 15:34.37 | Kalidarn | well lets hope the crash is able to be replicated in the new version :) |
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| 15:53.44 | Kalidarn | okay well even using 1.8 it's crossed out even though i've got devel/libbfd installed. |
| 15:54.17 | Kalidarn | with an E next to each thing Depends on: BFD(E), DLADDR(E) |
| 15:54.43 | Kalidarn | 1.6 probably just hides the option where as 1.8 puts the big naughty XXX next to it. |
| 15:54.51 | jpsharp | Did you rerun ./configure? |
| 15:55.11 | Kalidarn | yes |
| 15:55.29 | Kalidarn | well as a matter of fact i installed it before i ran configure in the first place |
| 15:55.34 | Kalidarn | because the wiki said it was required |
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| 15:57.04 | jpsharp | I'd look through the config.log to make sure it probably picked it up. |
| 15:57.09 | jpsharp | er, properly picked it up. |
| 15:58.01 | Kalidarn | thats what i'm doing now. |
| 15:58.10 | Kalidarn | but thanks :) |
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| 17:17.16 | hff135 | does anybody know what is the maximum length for a dialplan string? |
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| 18:47.56 | iunruh | does a direct inward dialing number only allow one call at a time? |
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| 18:50.58 | hexanol | how is the function CALLERID(name-charset) supposed to work on asterisk 1.8.13 ? |
| 18:51.28 | p3nguin | iunruh: No. |
| 18:51.56 | iunruh | so a DID is suitable as an outside number for my PBX? |
| 18:52.17 | p3nguin | iunruh: The number of concurrent calls on a DID is limited by the provider and the PBX administrator. |
| 18:52.48 | p3nguin | iunruh: A DID is basically just a phone number. |
| 18:53.12 | p3nguin | iunruh: What you do with the call once it reaches your PBX is up to you. |
| 18:53.15 | iunruh | okay, that's what I was wondering |
| 18:54.11 | p3nguin | If your ITSP does not state how many concurrent calls your DID can handle, just ask them. |
| 18:54.44 | p3nguin | Some limit it to two calls, others 20, others unlimited. |
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| 19:06.04 | iunruh | can anyone recommend a service to buy a DID/phone # from? |
| 19:08.37 | [TK]D-Fender | For where? |
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| 19:10.32 | iunruh | Kansas |
| 19:10.44 | iunruh | US in general |
| 19:17.34 | [TK]D-Fender | voip.ms is pretty decent |
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| 19:26.32 | sontek_ | Whats a good place to pick up a couple phones that can work with asterisk? |
| 19:26.57 | sontek_ | We are a US company but are setting up operations in Chile, so we are going to switch to asterisk so we have more control over our phones |
| 19:27.06 | sontek_ | and so the Chilean operations can still call within the US |
| 19:27.42 | [TK]D-Fender | sontek_, www.telephonydepot.com |
| 19:28.37 | jaytee | they have great deals and good service |
| 19:29.19 | jaytee | I'd ordered several Polycoms from them and they got misdelivered but telephonydepot shipped out new phones and took care of the misdelivered claims with FedEx |
| 19:31.17 | sontek_ | and so what is the process for setting up asterisk (haven't ever done it)... Am I going to need to setup a server in the US and then just have the Chilean phones connect to it? |
| 19:31.27 | sontek_ | or is there an online VOIP service that is reasonably priced? |
| 19:31.30 | Qwell | sure, or have a server in Chili |
| 19:31.47 | sontek_ | If I have the server in Chile, will I be able to make US phonecalls? |
| 19:32.06 | Qwell | It's VoIP. Geography matters not. |
| 19:32.44 | Qwell | Just design it for your most common scenario. Obviously, having 30 phones require hitting a server in the US is going to have some latency/bandwidth requirements. |
| 19:32.47 | sontek_ | so I don't need a physical phoneline at all? |
| 19:33.19 | sontek_ | yeah, well there will be a max of 4 phones in Chile for the next 6-7 months (4 people, might just do 2 phones) until the operations take off |
| 19:33.27 | sontek_ | so at first we shouldn't have any issues with bandwidth |
| 19:33.49 | p3nguin | If you have the appropriate VoIP configuration and use an ITSP, you don't need physical phone lines. |
| 19:33.58 | Qwell | ~book |
| 19:33.58 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 3rd Edition (ISBN 0-596-51734-3) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517342 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
| 19:34.20 | p3nguin | You just need a suitable internet connection at any location involved. |
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| 19:34.45 | sontek_ | Nice, ITSP seems like what I want |
| 19:35.30 | sontek_ | I'm in Chile right now setting up the offices but i'll be back in the states on Wednesday and I want to pick up all the equipment i'll need while out there |
| 19:35.53 | sontek_ | we are currently using google voice + skype, its pretty ghetoo |
| 19:36.04 | p3nguin | ~s |
| 19:36.04 | infobot | When used with FXO ports (analog or T-1), "s" means "device too stupid to send number" |
| 19:36.11 | p3nguin | ~itsp |
| 19:36.11 | infobot | [~itsp] An ITSP is an Internet Telephony Service Provider (or VoIP telephone company). They allow you to either SEND calls to the PSTN (this is called termination), RECEIVE calls from the PSTN (called origination), or both. Some offer fixed rates, others $/min. Enter ~itsplist-us (USA) or ~itsplist-ca (Canada) for a listing of popular ITSPs. |
| 19:36.44 | sontek_ | ~itsplist-us |
| 19:36.44 | infobot | Here are some popular ITSPs (USA) starting with the more respected ones: http://www.teliax.com , http://www.voicepulse.com/connect/ , http://www.broadvoice.com , http://www.jnctn.com , http://www.bandwidth.com , http://vitelity.net , http://voip.ms and http://flowroute.com |
| 19:37.01 | sontek_ | You guys have a good experience with any of those recommended ones? |
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| 19:43.19 | [TK]D-Fender | most of them |
| 19:44.35 | sontek_ | Nice, so if they are all good i'll just go with the cheapest for now =) |
| 19:45.39 | Qwell | ~cheap |
| 19:45.39 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cheap is a bad idea. If you're setting up an Asterisk system, one of the wisest pieces of advice you can take is this: DON'T BE A CHEAPSKATE. |
| 19:46.41 | ravnx | Agreed ^^^ |
| 19:47.54 | sontek_ | ok, thats why I was asking if you guys had good experiences with them |
| 19:48.19 | sontek_ | I'm willing to pay whatever to get a decent service, but if all those guys are good I don't see a reason with going with the best price |
| 19:48.37 | sontek_ | not* going |
| 19:48.45 | ravnx | id choose vitelity or bandwidth.com if i had to choose |
| 19:48.51 | ravnx | i hear good things about both |
| 19:49.19 | sontek_ | Thanks |
| 19:49.34 | ravnx | (but no personal experience, i use level3 mostly, but we're an ITSP ourselves) |
| 19:52.13 | sontek_ | One even has a hosted solution, so I might not even have to do my own asterisk |
| 19:52.42 | sontek_ | but they charge per person so that would only work while our division was small |
| 19:54.53 | sontek_ | I guess it makes sense to setup the asterisk just for growth |
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| 19:58.45 | hexanol | anyone knows how is the function CALLERID(name-charset) supposed to work on asterisk 1.8.13 ? |
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| 20:43.10 | hff135 | does anyone know if we can increase the maximum length of dialplan variables |
| 20:43.24 | hff135 | i thiink they're 4096 (bytes?) right now. i have a string that needs to be longer than that |
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| 21:01.10 | dijib | SeRi: you here dude? |
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| 21:17.32 | interopcop | can anyone help a noob? is freeswitch an asterisk competator, or an entirely different component? |
| 21:17.42 | interopcop | trying to get my bearings |
| 21:17.56 | Qwell | They are different things. |
| 21:19.17 | interopcop | freeswtch is an MSC and asterisk is a pbx? |
| 21:19.35 | interopcop | or am I just an idiot using words I heard? |
| 21:20.32 | ravnx | asterisk and freeswitch can both do many things and can be configured to appear to act similarly. |
| 21:20.41 | ravnx | :) |
| 21:26.38 | ravnx | i would call them more like operating systems, where as the pbx functions come from configuration. You can make either platforms into things like a fax server, a hosted VoIP platform, a conferencing system, voice enabled datbase searchers, etc. |
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| 21:38.15 | interopcop | ew that isn't good |
| 21:38.57 | ChrisInSydney | interopcop: What are you looking to do ? |
| 21:39.33 | interopcop | I am trying to build an open source mobile operator. I plugged asterisk into the box for "IVR for provisioning CDMA phones amd other tasks" |
| 21:39.46 | interopcop | I was thinking freeswitch becomes the MSC |
| 21:40.13 | interopcop | and maybe openscp has the scp role |
| 21:40.23 | interopcop | I got a lot of reading to do |
| 21:41.49 | ChrisInSydney | There was a project I heard about on the VUC (http://vuc.me) where they set up a cellular network using open source hardware and used Asterisk to do "stuff" too. It was used on some island where there was no mobile carrier |
| 21:42.03 | Qwell | They used OpenBTS for the cell stuff. |
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| 21:42.29 | Qwell | oh, that one. not sure if they used that there. probably though. |
| 21:42.55 | Qwell | docs.digium.com/casestudies/downloads/Niue-Case-Study.pdf |
| 21:43.04 | Qwell | The Island of Niue. |
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| 21:44.03 | ChrisInSydney | that was with GSM I think |
| 21:44.08 | ChrisInSydney | no mention of CDMA |
| 21:44.25 | Qwell | I don't know why anyone would use CDMA in 2012 |
| 21:44.40 | ChrisInSydney | plenty of cheap 2nd hand handsets |
| 21:45.22 | ChrisInSydney | it has a nice analog quality about it, comforting, like a compact cassette ;-) |
| 21:50.30 | interopcop | yep I saw that and salivated |
| 21:50.59 | interopcop | @Qwell: take that back! |
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| 21:52.32 | p3nguin | I guess Verizon does just fine using CDMA. |
| 21:52.40 | Qwell | Verizon is switching away from CDMA... |
| 21:52.52 | p3nguin | When? |
| 21:53.02 | Qwell | pretty sure they've already started |
| 21:53.20 | p3nguin | That means I may actually have to get a new phone for the first time in over 10 years. |
| 21:53.57 | interopcop | doesn |
| 21:54.07 | interopcop | doesn't verizon sell a CDMA iPhone? |
| 21:54.13 | Qwell | p3nguin: They'll keep it around |
| 21:54.35 | Qwell | This is for LTE |
| 21:54.37 | Qwell | or something |
| 21:55.04 | p3nguin | They have a CDMA iPhone, but if they are going to get away from CDMA, they will surely want to get a different type of iPhone soon. |
| 21:56.32 | Qwell | p3nguin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication) |
| 21:59.54 | p3nguin | Verizon has been doing 4G LTE for a while now, but they haven't changed the CDMA part. |
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| 22:01.13 | Qwell | No, I'm sure CDMA will be around for a long time. |
| 22:01.32 | Qwell | But, after some time, making new CDMA phones will be rather silly. |
| 22:01.54 | Qwell | Good riddance, I say. |
| 22:02.14 | Qwell | p3nguin: and if you have a 10 year old phone, somebody needs to mail you a damn upgrade :p |
| 22:02.20 | p3nguin | I |
| 22:02.26 | p3nguin | I'm still using my StarTAC. |
| 22:02.33 | Qwell | ...why? |
| 22:02.42 | p3nguin | I intend to use it until I can no longer use it. |
| 22:03.00 | p3nguin | It's probably the best phone ever produced. |
| 22:03.16 | WIMPy | My 13 year old Nokia still has longer standby time with the original battery than a modern smartphone with a new battery. |
| 22:03.21 | Qwell | Is that even CDMA? |
| 22:03.28 | Qwell | sure it's not TDMA? O.o |
| 22:03.57 | Qwell | oh, nm, they did make CDMA under that name. That's old. |
| 22:04.06 | WIMPy | Oh, and the old feature phones don't crash. |
| 22:04.22 | p3nguin | I've only had to replace the battery on my StarTAC once. |
| 22:04.30 | Qwell | WIMPy: smartphones use a ton of battery though. hardly a fair comparison |
| 22:04.50 | Qwell | my 5 y/o motorola gets 4x as much time as my phone |
| 22:05.04 | WIMPy | Yes, that's what makes the old phones so attractive. |
| 22:05.09 | p3nguin | There are some features of a smart phone that I could use... but I don't NEED them. I'm pretty satisfied being able to simply make and receive calls. |
| 22:05.12 | Qwell | don't get a smartphone then... |
| 22:05.20 | Qwell | You can get phones with like 10 days now. |
| 22:05.35 | WIMPy | That's not that much. |
| 22:05.50 | Qwell | It's also not 7" thick. :P |
| 22:06.08 | Qwell | weighs less than a kg |
| 22:07.21 | p3nguin | If I take off the extra-capacity battery and put on a slim battery, my StarTAC isn't much different from a RAZR's size. |
| 22:07.49 | p3nguin | With the big battery, it's like a pregnant RAZR. |
| 22:11.00 | prometheanfire | anyone have a pci-express aex410 that they can run 'lspci -t' on for me (and just lspci as well)? |
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| 22:15.30 | ChrisInSydney | p3nguin, Qwell: Dont forget the Erricson t39m |
| 22:16.31 | p3nguin | I used to have a tiny Erricson, but I have no idea what model it was. |
| 22:16.58 | ChrisInSydney | a week of battery life with talking |
| 22:17.03 | p3nguin | It was smaller than the T39m. |
| 22:17.29 | ChrisInSydney | maybe the one from Zoolander X) |
| 22:20.09 | ChrisInSydney | p3nguin: I must admit, my iPhone is the worst phone I have ever owned that I could not do without |
| 22:20.46 | ravnx | ChrisInSydney: haha |
| 22:21.15 | p3nguin | I actually have a brand new, still in the box Ericsson exactly like the one I used. |
| 22:22.19 | ravnx | my contract is up, and ive been considering iphone, but im kinda scared.. i still use an old blackberry, i had a samsung galaxy but the battery wouldnt even last a business day. i get 2-3 out of the blackberry. |
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| 22:22.50 | ChrisInSydney | whats the battery like. Li tend to slowly die regardless of your using it or not, moreso with the older ones |
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| 22:23.49 | ChrisInSydney | ravnx: I grabbed a battery case thingy. 1700mAh which uses a micro USB |
| 22:24.46 | ravnx | makes the phone so fat though |
| 22:24.54 | ChrisInSydney | tend to get a full day out and still flog it, but the phone is a month old now. Had the iPhone 3.5 before. Wifi dies within 3 days of getting the 4.5 |
| 22:25.10 | ChrisInSydney | about 70% more fat |
| 22:25.37 | ravnx | plus i swear everyone i know has cracked their iphone screens. |
| 22:25.40 | fagiani | hi, I've just set up asterisk with digium card and would like to know how to identify if the card is receiving calls when they arrive, is there a quick way to know that... |
| 22:26.54 | p3nguin | I can't find an image of my old Ericsson online, so if I remember to look for the phone later, I'll have to check the model number on it. |
| 22:27.59 | p3nguin | It looks similar to the R320. |
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| 22:43.24 | eva_02 | I have 2 SIP accounts |
| 22:43.36 | eva_02 | 111@incoming.server.com and 222@out.box.net |
| 22:43.45 | eva_02 | I want forward all incoming calls coming to 111@incoming.server.com to 777@out.box.net through account 222@ |
| 22:44.06 | eva_02 | here is my sip.conf http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=qdUHDkC9 |
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| 22:44.29 | eva_02 | i need right extension |
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| 22:45.34 | Qwell | Dial(SIP/222/777) |
| 22:47.51 | eva_02 | Qwell, thank you |
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| 23:09.15 | pithagorians | hi, i have preload => res_config_odbc.so preload => res_odbc.so in modules.conf, but when i restart asterisk it doesn't load res_config_odbc.so |
| 23:09.29 | pithagorians | how to make it force load |
| 23:09.31 | pithagorians | ? |
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