| 00:02.22 | blehxor | I'm noticing a bit of static (~500ms) at the beginning of playback sometimes, playback file is in .wav format. Sounds smooth/fine when played on any normal player locally. Is this common? |
| 00:04.20 | [TK]D-Fender | blehxor: is it at EVERY playback? what if you play the same sound 5 times? Is itr always at the beginning of each? |
| 00:04.39 | [TK]D-Fender | blehxor: How about multiple DIFFERENT files? |
| 00:06.04 | blehxor | I've noticed it periodically. Let me run a few tests to answer your questions specifically |
| 00:09.20 | [TK]D-Fender | blehxor: then there is no pattern and is a factor of you connectivity & performance |
| 00:09.43 | [TK]D-Fender | perhaps start of call jitter, etc |
| 00:09.58 | tzanger | file: look up and wave |
| 00:10.05 | file | looks up and waves |
| 00:10.06 | tzanger | file: my wife's flying somewhere over new brunswick right now |
| 00:10.15 | file | good to know |
| 00:10.22 | tzanger | heh |
| 00:10.23 | blehxor | didn't notice it with that test |
| 00:10.29 | blehxor | noticed it before mid call |
| 00:10.55 | blehxor | notice the same static when I perform a wait(1) |
| 00:11.11 | blehxor | sorry, WaitExten() |
| 00:13.58 | navaismo | It is normal taht using nat=force_rport,comedia in the CONTACT HEADER appear the phone's lan address and in the SDP c too? Should be the wan address instead right? |
| 00:15.21 | Katty | Nugget: |
| 00:15.41 | blehxor | [TK]D-Fender, thanks - I'll chalk it up to bridge performance for now |
| 00:19.31 | navaismo | wish igcewieling removes him from his ignore list |
| 00:20.59 | Nugget | huggles Katty |
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| 00:22.28 | Katty | hugskwishes Nugget |
| 00:22.56 | Katty | Nugget: how'rechu dear? |
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| 00:25.18 | Nugget | life is good |
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| 00:31.43 | paulc | blehxor: that static is WAV header data. You need to use headerless ulaw files to avoid the clicking sounds.. |
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| 00:50.11 | blehxor | paulc: ah thanks, I'll try that |
| 00:51.19 | paulc | blehxor: no problem.. we use CoolEdit to edit/convert files.. if you're a command line guy, sox will probably do it.. or there's Audacity for windows/linux too.. |
| 00:52.46 | blehxor | paulc: nice, I'm on linux, will look at CoolEdit or Audacity. Can they create gsm also? Want a silence/30.gsm |
| 00:54.10 | paulc | Hmm.. that's a good question.. if the file's not getting played a ton, you could just go with ulaw and suck up the cost of transcoding the silence.. |
| 00:54.18 | paulc | (why GSM anyway? bandwidth limitations? *shudder*) |
| 00:55.54 | blehxor | I don't know, all the other silence files are gsm... |
| 00:56.09 | blehxor | I'm an audio nub |
| 00:56.45 | paulc | ah, gotcha.. makes sense.. but no harm in having ulaw files in there - it'll play whatever it can find, in the best possible format.. I generally go ulaw all the way "for quality reasons" |
| 00:56.51 | paulc | and on that note - I'm off home! :-) |
| 00:57.18 | blehxor | alright, well have a good one |
| 00:58.16 | paulc | cheers (Y) |
| 01:04.45 | [TK]D-Fender | blehxor: all standard * stock recordings are already available in each codec format * supports |
| 01:07.44 | [TK]D-Fender | blehxor: also : "help file convert" <- * CLI |
| 01:08.22 | blehxor | [TK]D-Fender: I'm assuming gsm is more lightweight than wav or ulaw? |
| 01:09.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Blalways best to use files in the format of you channel so as not to incur transcoding load & quality loss |
| 01:10.06 | [TK]D-Fender | all stock ones started arounc CD quality before a single step transcode to that final format. |
| 01:10.22 | [TK]D-Fender | converting those again woul be wrong |
| 01:10.56 | blehxor | [TK]D-Fender: but silence files are gsm? or depending on channel codec, * will pull up silence in different codec? |
| 01:11.13 | [TK]D-Fender | All are available in EACH CODEC |
| 01:11.29 | [TK]D-Fender | it isn't just those that are in GSM |
| 01:11.39 | [TK]D-Fender | all are available in ALL |
| 01:14.01 | [TK]D-Fender | * will always pull the most economical transcode availablle |
| 01:15.18 | blehxor | Alright, Its a bit confusing because there are only .gsm files under /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/silence. There are other formats somewhere else on disk? or * transcodes then caches at some later point? |
| 01:15.54 | [TK]D-Fender | YOU pick them during "make menuselect" or download them manually |
| 01:16.20 | [TK]D-Fender | during "make" they are downloaded on the fly |
| 01:16.28 | blehxor | Ah! I understand now. |
| 01:17.13 | blehxor | Just used the default |
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| 01:39.22 | floren | hi all :) |
| 01:39.37 | blehxor | hai |
| 01:39.48 | floren | i was reading the previous comments... i use only g722 files |
| 01:40.07 | floren | they play nice on my 8961's |
| 01:40.57 | ChannelZ | uhm |
| 01:41.09 | floren | hi bob |
| 01:43.22 | floren | http://codepad.org/QGLoYmmz |
| 01:44.22 | blehxor | cool |
| 01:44.30 | [TK]D-Fender | and is that the actual codec of your call? |
| 01:44.42 | floren | nope :) |
| 01:44.50 | floren | calls go through ulaw |
| 01:44.56 | [TK]D-Fender | then you are LOSING quality |
| 01:45.01 | floren | ya :) |
| 01:45.09 | floren | at least the voicemail sounds nice :) |
| 01:45.16 | floren | heh |
| 01:45.37 | [TK]D-Fender | transcoding the better g722 down to ulaw is worse than using the native ulaw ones |
| 01:46.00 | [TK]D-Fender | you are making it worse and creating a load |
| 01:46.58 | [TK]D-Fender | not doing yourself any kind of favour |
| 01:47.29 | floren | i dis some tests [TK]D-Fender, with a default voicemail on g722. while calling the device, the sound quality was better on g722 files, compared to ulaw? |
| 01:47.51 | [TK]D-Fender | you are missing the poit... |
| 01:48.29 | floren | well ya, there is some transcoding right? g722 is downgreaded to ulaw so it plays |
| 01:48.45 | floren | resulting in load |
| 01:48.45 | [TK]D-Fender | they are getting TRANSCODED as you play them back. you LOSE QUALITY like this. It's a photocopy of a photocpy of a photocopy.... |
| 01:48.53 | floren | ya |
| 01:49.52 | [TK]D-Fender | this is WORSE than using the native ulaw files already available and creating a load for nothing |
| 01:50.18 | floren | the good part of this is: i have my own recorded files, so g722 never actually play, i can only use them when i listen to my messages on the device, which is not an issue imo |
| 01:50.56 | floren | let me know if i got it right :) |
| 01:51.27 | floren | recorded files are slin |
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| 02:16.36 | Vico100 | hello |
| 02:17.26 | Vico100 | i get this error each time a sip device trys to register with asterisk: WARNING[1042]: db.c:285 db_execute_sql: Error executing SQL: database is locked |
| 02:18.59 | Vico100 | the permissions are set rwxrwxrwx |
| 02:20.34 | pabelanger | Vico100, locked database is not the same as file permissions |
| 02:20.41 | pabelanger | check your database server |
| 02:21.03 | leifmadsen | +1 |
| 02:21.39 | leifmadsen | ya, that has nothing to do with file permissions. The DB service is telling you that you can't access the database since something has locked it |
| 02:22.24 | igcewieling | or maybe it is lying and it just can't connect to the database |
| 02:22.47 | Vico100 | i am using sqlite3 |
| 02:22.58 | Vico100 | it auto installed with asterisks |
| 02:23.08 | Vico100 | okay thankyou for your help |
| 02:23.13 | Vico100 | i will poke around |
| 02:23.37 | igcewieling | sqlite must have write access to the directory the database file is in, not just the actual database file. |
| 02:23.56 | [TK]D-Fender | last I recall SQLite had no "permissions" |
| 02:24.15 | [TK]D-Fender | and wass full-rights as a barebones SQL engine |
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| 03:08.39 | pensmit | So..can't find the md5sum for AsteriskNow 64bit |
| 03:08.48 | pensmit | Anyone know what it is? |
| 03:12.59 | Vico100 | pensmit: try to look through: http://svn.asterisk.org/svn/ |
| 03:13.10 | Vico100 | maybe its there i don't konw |
| 03:14.17 | pensmit | hmm |
| 03:14.26 | pensmit | i dont think so |
| 03:14.53 | pensmit | wonder why they dont put it with the download' |
| 03:21.14 | [TK]D-Fender | poor planning |
| 03:21.26 | [TK]D-Fender | contact their webmaster |
| 03:21.36 | [TK]D-Fender | it'll get seen to |
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| 03:35.58 | MRH2 | hi basic question using isdn card as hw timing source (meetme etc) if the line is disconnected should it still work fine for timing? |
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| 03:36.50 | WIMPy | Yes |
| 03:36.55 | MRH2 | thanks |
| 03:37.14 | WIMPy | If you don't get timing, the card should produce it. |
| 03:38.07 | MRH2 | span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4 |
| 03:39.18 | MRH2 | is there any way to check timing is working correctly |
| 03:39.43 | WIMPy | You should see the selected source in dmesg. |
| 03:39.57 | MRH2 | ok |
| 03:40.12 | MRH2 | but that the source is working as it should |
| 03:40.14 | WIMPy | But when thinking about it, maybe I shouldn't have answered. I'm not sure dahdi works that way, too. |
| 03:40.57 | WIMPy | As in Asterisk using it? See 'timing test'. That tells you which timing module is used. |
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| 03:42.39 | MRH2 | ah wish i had timing test |
| 03:42.41 | MRH2 | lol |
| 03:43.38 | WIMPy | How old is your Asterisk? |
| 03:43.53 | MRH2 | embarased |
| 03:43.58 | MRH2 | Asterisk SVN-branch-1.2-r52954M |
| 03:44.09 | WIMPy | Holy shit. |
| 03:44.19 | WIMPy | You're like 7 years behind. |
| 03:44.28 | MRH2 | it's been running a while.... |
| 03:44.38 | WIMPy | Did that thing support ISDN at all? |
| 03:44.45 | MRH2 | lol |
| 03:45.08 | MRH2 | what can i say.. i love the agent channel |
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| 03:45.11 | WIMPy | I remember that I found that rather questionable in 1.4. |
| 03:46.23 | MRH2 | yeah |
| 03:46.49 | MRH2 | i'd like to see if it will run in a VM one day |
| 03:46.59 | MRH2 | then i'll upgrade |
| 03:47.05 | WIMPy | Works for many of us. |
| 03:47.46 | MRH2 | u use pass through for network and hardware timing on a VM? |
| 03:48.12 | WIMPy | Hardware OR VM, never both. |
| 03:48.28 | WIMPy | AFAIK dahdi can't do it. |
| 03:48.42 | WIMPy | NFI if it would work with other drivers. |
| 03:49.38 | MRH2 | i'll need to get round to playing about with it |
| 03:50.01 | WIMPy | You should try Asterisk 11. It will be quite a new experience. |
| 03:50.26 | WIMPy | Like using ConfBridge instead of Meetme and not needing dahdi any more. |
| 03:50.31 | MRH2 | sounds exotic |
| 03:50.43 | WIMPy | Much better. |
| 03:52.55 | MRH2 | i also use iax2 trunks and alot of mixmonitor (or whatever it might be called now) |
| 03:53.08 | WIMPy | They are both still the same. |
| 03:53.18 | WIMPy | Just with less security issues. |
| 03:53.48 | MRH2 | can i use without dahdi? |
| 03:54.03 | WIMPy | yes |
| 03:54.32 | floren | < MRH2> Asterisk SVN-branch-1.2-r52954M |
| 03:54.35 | floren | :) |
| 03:55.01 | floren | that proves how repliable asterisk is :D |
| 03:55.07 | floren | reliable* |
| 03:55.50 | floren | is too small and puny for dahdi |
| 03:56.36 | WIMPy | ? |
| 03:56.47 | floren | running strong asterisk 11 on a NUC, which also happens to monitor all my dev boxes and APC |
| 03:57.36 | floren | i can run the NUC, 2 routers, switch and modem for 6 hours without power |
| 03:57.51 | floren | on an apc pro 1500 |
| 03:58.05 | WIMPy | The APC have produced mor failures than they prevented here :-( |
| 03:58.28 | floren | and the 2 cisco 8961, meh i forgot about them :) |
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| 03:59.04 | floren | i use: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1500G |
| 03:59.47 | floren | i monitor it on centos 6.4 NUC, it allows me to send emails when there is a power failure and also do WOL's |
| 04:00.20 | MRH2 | i have my credit card ready for u! |
| 04:00.21 | floren | meh: Day changed to 09 Aug 2013 |
| 04:00.22 | MRH2 | ;) |
| 04:00.26 | floren | heh |
| 04:01.00 | MRH2 | yes it's the correct chat box lol |
| 04:01.07 | WIMPy | I run without UPS now. Didn't have any outages since then. |
| 04:01.07 | floren | NUC: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0093LINVK/ |
| 04:01.32 | floren | awesome performance for asterisk |
| 04:02.24 | floren | i had a 3hrs power outage here in montreal few weeks ago |
| 04:02.32 | floren | due to forest fires |
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| 04:02.48 | floren | it was nice to have internet :) |
| 04:04.07 | MRH2 | thanks for ur input wimpy |
| 04:04.15 | MRH2 | nite nite |
| 04:04.31 | floren | WIMPy: what are you tinkering on |
| 04:04.40 | floren | since ChannelZ is not in the mood to talk :) |
| 04:05.13 | WIMPy | I'm about to go to bed. |
| 04:05.20 | floren | ok nite :) |
| 04:05.38 | floren | have a feeling you will be back in 15min :) |
| 04:06.07 | WIMPy | I'll probably still be here in 15min. |
| 04:06.48 | floren | my latest hitech purchase: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004RALW/ |
| 04:06.50 | floren | :D |
| 04:07.07 | floren | got it yesterday |
| 04:07.14 | WIMPy | Have to think about what might be a sensible way to implement pickup from VM for a normal multiuser system. |
| 04:07.43 | floren | you build a fancy IVR? |
| 04:07.57 | WIMPy | No IVR. |
| 04:08.23 | WIMPy | Just the standard feature every plastic PBX has that allows you to pick up calls that have gone to VM. |
| 04:08.35 | WIMPy | loves grilling. |
| 04:08.41 | floren | :) |
| 04:08.52 | floren | from the outside calling a device or internal? |
| 04:09.50 | WIMPy | What difference should that make? |
| 04:10.15 | floren | none, well internal should easier no? |
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| 04:10.56 | floren | you basically want to intercept a message once it started recording... or i get it wrong? |
| 04:11.08 | WIMPy | Since when does Asterisk have a concept of internal or external? |
| 04:11.14 | floren | you listen what the user says live |
| 04:11.22 | WIMPy | I want to pickup that call, yes. |
| 04:11.39 | WIMPy | No, not monitoring. That would be nice, tho. |
| 04:11.49 | floren | i see i misunderstood |
| 04:12.04 | igcewieling | What you want to do is "steal" a call. |
| 04:12.26 | WIMPy | Well, that's usually just a normal pickup. |
| 04:13.13 | WIMPy | Bu in Asterisk that only works for calls that are still ringing. Usually VM doesn't count as answered for pickup. |
| 04:13.25 | igcewieling | A normal pickup happens while the call is still ringing. I meant stealing the call after it has been answered. |
| 04:13.39 | WIMPy | Yes |
| 04:14.05 | igcewieling | You should be able to do it using AMI |
| 04:14.17 | WIMPy | Yes. |
| 04:14.25 | WIMPy | I implemented it this morning. |
| 04:14.32 | WIMPy | Was quite easy. |
| 04:14.56 | WIMPy | But it just picks the last call that went to VM if the Pickup() application failed. |
| 04:15.20 | WIMPy | So that would need a little more thought if you have more users. |
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| 04:16.42 | floren | how amny users you deal with WIMPy |
| 04:17.01 | floren | i have 2 users, me and myself |
| 04:17.14 | WIMPy | I did that on my home box. That's only for me myself & I since 2 weeks. |
| 04:17.22 | floren | :) |
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| 04:18.10 | WIMPy | So for me here it's working fine. |
| 04:18.25 | WIMPy | But I'd like it to work for many users as well. |
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| 04:23.04 | floren | i'm not at that level |
| 04:23.10 | floren | keeping things simple for home use |
| 04:23.39 | WIMPy | How does Asterisk fit in there? |
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| 04:24.16 | floren | i have a basic setup with 2 cisco 8961's and one did on voip.ms |
| 04:25.11 | floren | both phone hooked to a small asterisk server |
| 04:25.53 | floren | nothing fancy but it beats the 50$ line i used to pay for regular telecom |
| 04:26.47 | WIMPy | If you want IP without telephony here, you pay extra. |
| 04:27.29 | floren | right now i pay $5/month for 3500min |
| 04:28.13 | floren | i can do nice things with asterisk, like parking a call on one phone etc. |
| 04:28.37 | WIMPy | I never understood what that's good for. |
| 04:28.42 | floren | still learning as it has features galore |
| 04:29.08 | floren | for me is useful, i park a call and pick it donwstairs |
| 04:29.37 | floren | or i set a DND on one phone so it rings only downstairs |
| 04:29.47 | WIMPy | Why don;t you transfer the call? |
| 04:29.57 | floren | i dont know how to do this yet :D |
| 04:30.13 | floren | did not have time to look into many features |
| 04:30.53 | floren | i started using asterisk few weeks ago. i spent more time on building the rpm's instead of actually dealing with the software :) |
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| 04:31.34 | WIMPy | There are enough features to keep you busy for some years. |
| 04:31.40 | floren | ya :D |
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| 04:33.04 | WIMPy | But also so many missing. |
| 04:33.33 | WIMPy | One of them has been fixed today. At least for my personal use. |
| 04:33.59 | floren | so far the only feature i miss from my old line is the ability to listen the recorded message live |
| 04:34.28 | floren | i can hear the user talking and decide if i pickup or not |
| 04:34.42 | WIMPy | Yes, that would be nice, but I lost that before stating with Asterisk. |
| 04:34.55 | floren | i'm sure there is a way to do it |
| 04:35.02 | WIMPy | I really miss 3-way calling. |
| 04:35.19 | floren | hmm ic an do that with my cisco 8961? |
| 04:35.25 | WIMPy | If you google you should find an article where someone did some trickery with meetme or something. |
| 04:35.32 | floren | i do conference calls all teh time |
| 04:35.59 | WIMPy | Yes, but doing it in the phone adds extra dealy and that is bad. |
| 04:36.07 | floren | i think is related to the patch one dev made for cisco phones and asterisk |
| 04:36.50 | floren | delay? |
| 04:37.09 | WIMPy | Yes, audio dealys. |
| 04:37.25 | floren | i havent noticed any delay on my 3 way calls, weird |
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| 04:37.45 | floren | and i'm on a puny 6Mbit connection |
| 04:38.13 | WIMPy | When using VOIP the delays are extremely hight compared to PSTN and often reach levels that are at least near being annoying. |
| 04:38.49 | WIMPy | And if you add another hop that often males the difference beween still being usable or not. |
| 04:39.07 | WIMPy | makes |
| 04:41.55 | WIMPy | Ok, I think the 15min are over mor than once. |
| 04:41.56 | WIMPy | CUL. |
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| 04:42.06 | floren | heh |
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| 06:07.38 | raden | asterisk 2 GB worth of logs UGH !!!! |
| 06:09.01 | floren | # du -ksh /var/log/* | grep asterisk |
| 06:09.01 | floren | 128K /var/log/asterisk |
| 06:09.23 | floren | depends what do you log |
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| 07:05.30 | danfromuk | Hi, Asterisk 11.5.0 just had a major crash. First the CLI posted "acl.c: Cannot create socket" repeatedly for about 20 minutes. Then it posted "tcptls.c: Accept failed: Too many open files" repeatedly thousands of times, before crashing out. |
| 07:05.55 | danfromuk | I need to ensure this doesnt happen over the weekend. Any way to work out the cause? |
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| 07:37.40 | ChannelZ | hmm |
| 07:38.26 | danfromuk | I've worked out how to set up a timeperiod to filter out the problem. |
| 07:38.51 | ChannelZ | wonder if you ran out of fds via 'natural causes' or if something was not being freed and it just continued consuming them |
| 07:40.20 | ChannelZ | guess you can keep an eye on lsof and see if asterisk or some other process has shit-tons of files open |
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| 07:41.05 | ChannelZ | lsof -p `pidof asterisk` |
| 07:42.17 | ChannelZ | dunno if this is coincidence, mine has 255 handles of various types open... hmm |
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| 07:46.35 | danfromuk | ChannelZ: ignore my previous message about timeperiods. Regarding your suggestion, how do you get a total from lsof? |
| 07:48.55 | ChannelZ | wc -l |
| 07:49.10 | ChannelZ | lsof -p `pidof asterisk` |wc -l |
| 07:49.16 | ChannelZ | would just give you a count of asterisk |
| 07:49.35 | danfromuk | Ok. Thanks. I'll keep an eye on it. Currently 274 |
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| 07:49.45 | danfromuk | Been running for about 1 hour |
| 07:50.39 | ChannelZ | seems about right for an idle machine. My work is 255, home is 298. If your problem happens again, see if it's skyrocketed, and then you can look through the actual list and see what's open, might give you a hint as to what is going on |
| 07:51.02 | danfromuk | ok. Thanks. Will do. |
| 07:51.21 | danfromuk | Problem is. Asterisk will crash before I can run it. |
| 07:51.37 | danfromuk | When I received the alert, asterisk was already not running. |
| 07:51.51 | danfromuk | But i'll keep an eye on the count anyway. |
| 07:51.53 | danfromuk | Thanks |
| 07:52.02 | ChannelZ | oh it actually crashes/cores, not locks up.. hmm |
| 07:52.47 | ChannelZ | though there's still the possibility it's some other task on your server using lots of FDs running everyone else out. |
| 07:53.35 | ChannelZ | Beyond that, an asterisk backtrace is in order |
| 07:55.20 | danfromuk | Never had a problem with this machine. I recently upgraded from 1.8 to 11.5 |
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| 07:57.40 | danfromuk | ok. If it happens again, I'll look at backtraces. Never done that before. |
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| 07:59.06 | ChannelZ | Do you run lots of AGIs or have anything using AMI? |
| 08:00.06 | danfromuk | We use AMI to issue regular dialplan reloads whenever a client changes their config |
| 08:00.17 | danfromuk | and agi's for billing purposes |
| 08:02.46 | ChannelZ | hmm.. well yeah I'd start with keeping an eye on the open file descriptors, guessing something isn't being closed correctly and they are building up. Whether it's user error in your scripts for instance or some asterisk bug, TBD |
| 08:03.01 | ChannelZ | Good luck. off to bed.. |
| 08:06.25 | danfromuk | Thanks for your help |
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| 22:04.58 | *** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- Asterisk 11.5.0 (2013/07/15), 10.12.2 (2013/03/27), 1.8.23.0 (2013/07/15), DAHDI-linux 2.6.2 (2013/03/08), DAHDI-tools 2.6.2 (2013/03/08), libpri 1.4.14 (2012/12/20) -=- Visit the official Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org |
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