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| 13:42.36 | SGjunior | Hey Fender, I figured out my problem from yesterday with app_queue.so when I was logging for what you asked! So thanks!! |
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| 14:31.05 | mic__ | hello, did you ever encounter something like http://pastie.org/8247529 |
| 14:31.16 | mic__ | a hidden top: look at the timestamp. |
| 14:31.19 | mic__ | s/top/tip |
| 14:32.26 | WIMPy | Not that extreme. |
| 14:32.40 | WIMPy | Are you sure you don't have a network issue there? |
| 14:33.36 | mic__ | I debugged all system - and after ca. 8 hours of investigating all elements |
| 14:33.43 | mic__ | I found this. It happens every 20-40th call |
| 14:34.15 | mic__ | I would not blame the network - similar machine is running in a different location |
| 14:34.20 | mic__ | and they have the same problem. |
| 14:34.24 | WIMPy | Do you have many SIP clients registering to that system? |
| 14:34.30 | mic__ | 5-8 |
| 14:35.24 | WIMPy | And the called peer was a registered one? |
| 14:35.29 | mic__ | Indeed. |
| 14:35.45 | mic__ | Well, I have a plan on what to do, but it's a bit of a roulette |
| 14:36.01 | mic__ | and before I go on I just wanted to ask. |
| 14:36.07 | mic__ | :) |
| 14:37.40 | WIMPy | Well, jkroon found an issue, where incomming registrations would block chan_sip for (in his case) up to 2.5s. But I'm not sure you're likely to see that with only 8 clients registering. |
| 14:38.08 | mic__ | Well, this delay can go up to 10 seconds |
| 14:38.14 | WIMPy | Oops |
| 14:38.50 | WIMPy | I myself have the issue that creating a sip channel for some strange reason can take half a second for no apparent reason. |
| 14:39.27 | igcewieling | mic__: I'd say DNS problem. |
| 14:39.48 | WIMPy | On a registered device? |
| 14:39.51 | mic__ | igcewieling: can you throw in more light please? |
| 14:40.12 | WIMPy | You should enable sip debug and see what's really going on. |
| 14:40.43 | igcewieling | mic__: any time Asterisk must do a DNS lookup it will block. Make sure all interface IPs are listed in /etc/hosts, run a local caching DNS server and enable dnsmgr.conf in Asterisk |
| 14:41.05 | mic__ | igcewieling: thanks, I will investigate it right away as I have the b0rken machine on the floor |
| 14:41.17 | WIMPy | doesn't see why there shoud be a DSN lookup. |
| 14:41.22 | igcewieling | mic__: is your provider section in sip.conf referenceing a hostname or an IP |
| 14:41.31 | mic__ | igcewieling: hostnames |
| 14:42.03 | igcewieling | try IP address and see if that speeds it up |
| 14:42.32 | igcewieling | WIMPy: asterisk does dns lookups at the oddest times. like trying to do reverse lookup on the interface IP |
| 14:43.14 | igcewieling | make DNS require an internet connection, unplig your internet connection, watch Asterisk fall over even for local sip phones |
| 14:43.27 | WIMPy | At least DNS is not part of my issue. |
| 14:43.58 | mic__ | igcewieling: dnsmgr in asterisk is disabled |
| 14:44.09 | WIMPy | Yes, I've seen that. |
| 14:44.54 | mic__ | But there is one more machine like that |
| 14:45.09 | mic__ | but uses OpenVox instead of SIP trunk |
| 14:45.15 | mic__ | let me see in the log if that issue happens there, too. |
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| 14:52.15 | mic__ | interesting |
| 14:52.22 | mic__ | inspected now hundres of calls in the log |
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| 14:52.37 | mic__ | not a single delay when doing the same from DAHDI OpenVox to the agent |
| 14:53.04 | WIMPy | Sounds similar to what I see. |
| 14:53.26 | WIMPy | It's not entirely consistant to me, yet |
| 14:53.39 | mic__ | yep, same here |
| 14:53.50 | mic__ | every 20-40 calls -> DELAY. |
| 14:53.50 | WIMPy | .But it seems that calling out to SIP is only an issue when the calls also originates from SIP. |
| 14:54.21 | mic__ | let me torture the sales guy for a moment |
| 14:54.25 | mic__ | :D |
| 14:54.40 | WIMPy | o.O |
| 14:56.48 | WIMPy | A few weeks back I felt the need to directly use the telcos SIP accounts instead of their supplied ISDN gateway as they wanted to exchange it and I didn't want to be offline for the time. |
| 14:56.57 | mic__ | 0 delays. 260 calls inspected. |
| 14:57.26 | WIMPy | Then I thought that it might be a good idea anyway as Asterisk might be better at SIP. Or so I thought. |
| 14:58.50 | WIMPy | Now it saves me the timeout when dialling, but otherwise the official version did work better :-( |
| 15:01.53 | mic__ | WIMPy: he gets calls from people about it - so if I need to know something... a bit of Spanish Inquisition is never too bad :) |
| 15:02.20 | SGjunior | Can anyone recommend me a softphone |
| 15:03.54 | mic__ | SGjunior: windows? Linux? |
| 15:05.23 | SGjunior | They are to be installed on thinclients running Windows embedded 7 |
| 15:05.23 | igcewieling | mic__: sip debug should give you a better idea |
| 15:05.31 | igcewieling | SGjunior: all softphones suck. |
| 15:05.58 | WIMPy | Including the softphones with bundled hardware. |
| 15:06.24 | SGjunior | I currently have polycom's ip 335 installed but I was looking for better flexibility |
| 15:07.25 | igcewieling | try a VVX if you want "pretty". Try a 550 if you want functional. Try a softphone if you want heartache and misery. |
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| 15:10.31 | SGjunior | Haha thanks, I was thinking softphones would be the easiest to set up if I wanted employees to work offsite |
| 15:11.40 | igcewieling | SGjunior: some people use softphones like that, but unless the person is moving around all the time, a hardphone is usually better. the lower end VVX phones are not all THAT expensive and work well. NOT the touch screen models though. |
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| 15:17.48 | SGjunior | Ill stick to the hardphones then, maybe ill setup some sort of |
| 15:18.03 | SGjunior | Iphone softphone in the future for people that move around |
| 15:20.14 | [TK]D-Fender | problem with iPhone is that it goes into "sleep" mode which kills WiFi if that's what you'd expect them to use |
| 15:21.48 | SGjunior | ^ didnt think about that |
| 15:22.51 | mic__ | igcewieling: there was an issue - DNS lookups block chan_sip |
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| 15:30.56 | [TK]D-Fender | igcewieling: whats the "non-functional" part of the VVX's? |
| 15:32.33 | SGjunior | ^You can disable the sleep mode on the iphone, |
| 15:32.40 | WIMPy | So the suspicion is that on sip-to-sip calls the 2nd call leg does DNS lookups related to the 1st call leg? |
| 15:33.04 | mic__ | WIMPy: yes |
| 15:33.17 | WIMPy | Strange shit. |
| 15:33.25 | mic__ | WIMPy: but it's only a suspicion |
| 15:33.40 | WIMPy | But it would fit to my observations. |
| 15:33.57 | WIMPy | Not that it makes any sense to me, but that's another story. |
| 15:34.00 | mic__ | To make it more confusing - there is a box with even older asterisk |
| 15:34.03 | [TK]D-Fender | SGjunior: not that I'd seen... running latest 6.x it would still always kill it. It doesn't die immediately with the screen, it's a little after that |
| 15:34.07 | mic__ | that runs the same stack - and has no issues like that. |
| 15:34.24 | mic__ | WIMPy: and that makes it _interesting_ |
| 15:35.04 | WIMPy | What versions are you running? |
| 15:38.50 | mic__ | (sec. phone) |
| 15:39.18 | mic__ | WIMPy: it's a VERY legacy thing - don't shout please |
| 15:39.22 | mic__ | WIMPy: I am only trying to help these people |
| 15:39.29 | mic__ | WIMPy: 1.6.0.15 and 1.6.0.28 |
| 15:39.40 | Qwell | ~upgrade asterisk |
| 15:39.40 | infobot | Before requesting assistance, you should be running the latest version of a supported release branch. See the channel topic for the latest versions available in currently supported branches. |
| 15:39.41 | WIMPy | ugh |
| 15:39.55 | mic__ | WIMPy: but 0.15 works no problem. |
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| 15:58.56 | mic__ | ok - then I am on my own. Upgrade isn't an option due to external dependencies, so I will lock myself and try to find a fix. |
| 16:02.09 | [TK]D-Fender | oh you already seem "locked" |
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| 16:28.13 | igcewieling | mic_: that is what I said 8-) |
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| 18:48.18 | igcewieling | has been reading the ZMODEM protocol specification. |
| 18:48.24 | igcewieling | feels like 1985 |
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| 19:24.01 | WIMPy | I think its older. |
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| 19:45.16 | igcewieling | 1988 is the version I'm reading |
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