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| 03:39.11 | jmordica | Do you guys have an idea as to whether or not SLA will support Realtime? (using the db instead of conf) |
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| 04:37.19 | phix | hi, my asterisk box is behind a cisco router (NAT) and I think the router is forgetting the NAT between my server and VoIP provider |
| 04:37.37 | phix | Any way to add a keep alive or anything like that? |
| 04:37.45 | phix | (SIP) |
| 04:39.28 | phix | [TK]D-Fender: you in? |
| 04:53.41 | ChannelZ | keepalives |
| 04:54.05 | phix | ChannelZ :D |
| 04:54.09 | phix | Assit |
| 04:54.13 | phix | Assist* |
| 04:54.43 | ChannelZ | see keepalive in sip.conf |
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| 04:55.21 | ChannelZ | and/or qualify |
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| 04:57.36 | phix | ChannelZ: ok I will try that |
| 04:58.05 | phix | keepalive=60, I just rang the number and asterisk gets the call, now to wait ~5minutes and see if it still picks it up |
| 04:59.40 | ChannelZ | Can you not do permenant port forwarding on the router? |
| 05:00.01 | ChannelZ | ideally 5060 should just be forwarded to your asterisk box |
| 05:00.24 | ChannelZ | (same for RTP really..) |
| 05:01.01 | ChannelZ | But it everything else is otherwise working, I guess if keepalives sort it out then who cares |
| 05:02.16 | phix | ChannelZ: I have |
| 05:02.22 | phix | and it still timesout |
| 05:03.09 | phix | I wish asterisk -r timestamped :/ |
| 05:03.39 | ChannelZ | then something else seems wrong (or the port forwarding isn't configured right/really working) |
| 05:04.01 | ChannelZ | When it's in its "timed out" mode, can you still make outgoing calls? |
| 05:06.34 | phix | yes, I just cannot receive calls |
| 05:06.39 | ChannelZ | and use the -T option for timestamps (and/or turn it on in asterisk.conf) |
| 05:10.07 | phix | ChannelZ: ok that didn't work, I ring the number and it doesn't show as coming in on asterisk, after 10 secs or so I get an engaged line busy message and phone hangs up |
| 05:18.37 | ChannelZ | you probably need qualify then which is more for incoming problems. keepalive is more for outgoing problems |
| 05:18.44 | phix | ah ok |
| 05:19.08 | ChannelZ | (well, it's not _for_ incoming problems but can help with them) |
| 05:19.20 | ChannelZ | I'm not exactly sure what packets keepalive actually sends. |
| 05:19.24 | phix | what should qualify be? 2? 30? 60? |
| 05:19.41 | ChannelZ | As long as possible but as short as necessary |
| 05:20.04 | ChannelZ | If your NAT times out ports after a minute, make it 55 secs or so |
| 05:20.06 | ChannelZ | etc |
| 05:20.15 | phix | should I set external host and nat=yes? |
| 05:20.43 | ChannelZ | it's not already? If asterisk is behind nat, yes. |
| 05:20.51 | phix | qualifyfreq? |
| 05:22.12 | ChannelZ | qualify=yes, frequency as above |
| 05:22.48 | phix | so I set qualify=yes and qualifyfreq? or just qualify=30? |
| 05:24.30 | ChannelZ | qualify=#### changes how long a delay before asterisk considers a lack of response a failure. Default is fine. qualifyfreq is the frequency with which it sends qualify packets, which is the important part here. |
| 05:25.21 | phix | ah ok, I set it for a minute, and I will see how that goes |
| 05:25.53 | ChannelZ | How are you restarting to make it work again? re-register? |
| 05:26.37 | phix | And now for my next issue, it is Sunday arvo and a nice breeze outside, should I 1) drink corona 2) drink tequilla 3) drink scotch or 4) drink bloody marrys? |
| 05:26.43 | phix | sudo service asterisk restart |
| 05:39.39 | phix | hmmm canreinvite on or off? |
| 05:41.07 | ChannelZ | off generally |
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| 05:42.54 | phix | ok it is off |
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| 06:04.03 | phix | ChannelZ: >? |
| 06:05.17 | phix | qualify=yes and qualifyfreq set to 30 didn't work |
| 06:05.37 | phix | After ~5 minutes I cannot dial in |
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| 09:13.29 | ChannelZ | phix did it come up and say 'Peer is UNREACHABLE!' for your ITSP peer? |
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| 10:12.11 | phix | hi |
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| 13:05.02 | ghost75 | is srvlookup still only supported for outbound calls with fqdn? |
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| 15:08.33 | file | I don't understand the question |
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| 15:53.17 | ghost75 | file: mine? |
| 15:53.49 | file | yes |
| 15:54.45 | ghost75 | it is known that srv support in asterisk works very limited, i would like to know what exactly is supported |
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| 21:04.19 | jmordica | Do you guys have an idea as to whether or not SLA will support Realtime? (using the db instead of conf) |
| 21:12.05 | file | which realtime? if you mean dynamic realtime then no, if you mean static realtime then yes |
| 21:14.47 | [TK]D-Fender | ewwww |
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| 21:45.26 | jmordica | file: as in, using MySQL as a DB for multiple asterisk servers. |
| 21:45.53 | jmordica | What do you mean by static realtime? |
| 21:46.13 | file | static realtime is the storage of .conf files in realtime |
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| 22:41.45 | jmordica | So no plans for db storage of SLA? May I ask why not? |
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| 22:52.41 | file | because nobody has done, or wants to do it? |
| 22:55.10 | phix | Back |
| 22:55.12 | phix | what did I miss? |
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| 23:23.14 | jmordica | file: would you take payment for this project to prioritize it? It would definitely provide a big value add in my opinion in some larger asterisk installs where more than 1 asterisk server is using in a cluster. |
| 23:23.36 | file | nope |
| 23:23.51 | jmordica | Are you saying devs don't want to build it or users don't want it built? |
| 23:24.11 | file | if you want to provide a bounty you can, instructions are at https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+Bug+Bounties |
| 23:24.58 | jmordica | What is a fair value for a feature like this? |
| 23:25.24 | file | a lot. |
| 23:25.37 | jmordica | ? |
| 23:25.48 | file | but really I have no idea |
| 23:26.21 | jmordica | A lot but you don't know? I'm confused. How much is a lot? |
| 23:26.38 | file | the SLA code is old and not touched much, it's also in an area that few people touch |
| 23:26.44 | robmal | 10^23 |
| 23:27.25 | file | and in the 7+ years the code has existed I think you are the second or third person to bring up realtime support in it |
| 23:27.49 | jmordica | Ok? I have no idea how to value this still. |
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| 23:37.16 | mjordan | jmordica: That's really a value proposition for you and someone who would be willing to do the work |
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| 23:39.08 | mjordan | but the right next step is to offer a proposal for someone to do the work on the asterisk-dev list, noting that the minimum amount is 500 dollars. You may want to mention that if someone is interested that they should contact you directly; those who are interested may be looking for a substantially higher price. |
| 23:39.38 | jmordica | mjordan: sure but I'm trying to figure out "who" would be able to do the work so I can discuss with them. I am willing to fund the project but it would obviously have to be done by someone who ( like file said) is someone who has already been in this code path. |
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| 23:39.59 | jmordica | Ok that works. |
| 23:40.06 | jmordica | Thanks for the advice |
| 23:40.12 | mjordan | jmordica: the great thing about the -dev list is that there are a lot of developers on it :-) |
| 23:44.42 | [TK]D-Fender | Wrong bounty |
| 23:45.39 | [TK]D-Fender | Place one on ACTUAL SIP SLA support |
| 23:47.30 | sloun | Hi guys. Does anybody know something about Asterisk and rtcp-mux. I've a problem with WebRTC clients inside local network and latest Asterisk (just no sound in both directions) |
| 23:48.01 | jmordica | [TK]D-Fender: where can I find SIP SLA support? |
| 23:50.19 | [TK]D-Fender | jmordica, ImaginaryLand. |
| 23:50.30 | [TK]D-Fender | jmordica, Wdon't HAVE it. And we should |
| 23:50.50 | jmordica | Ok so continue posting to the asterisk dev list |
| 23:50.51 | [TK]D-Fender | So place a bounty on the real deal, not that half-baked FrankenPatch. |
| 23:51.14 | [TK]D-Fender | Forget what * CALLS SLA. The cake is a lie. |
| 23:53.25 | jmordica | I should have left my contact info as subscribers can't see email addresses? |
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| 23:57.51 | mjordan | [TK]D-Fender: at this point in time, I wouldn't encourage anyone to write an SLA implementation inside of Asterisk. |
| 23:58.24 | mjordan | SLA is different in so many different implementations. You might as well just treat Asterisk as a media server, use ARI, and write it in JavaScript or Python or Ruby |
| 23:58.41 | mjordan | otherwise, whatever anyone builds isn't going to be what someone else wants |
| 23:59.21 | mjordan | there's really only one thing you need Asterisk to do that it doesn't currently expose in ARI, which is to intercept a Hold control frame and not immediately put the other side on hold. That's a pretty trivial patch/improvement to the bridging framework. |
| 23:59.23 | jmordica | The Broadsoft SLA implementation is fairly flexible (yet still simple enough) |
| 23:59.44 | mjordan | And requires proprietary SIP extensions |
| 23:59.46 | mjordan | So nope! |