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| 00:22.07 | esaym153 | drmessano: ha, well that kinda sux |
| 00:22.17 | esaym153 | ah* |
| 00:25.00 | mjordan | Ice_Strike: chan_agent *is* dead, and for very good reasons (proxy channel drivers, as it turned out, were not a good idea). app_agent_pool now provides the applications that mimic the behavior that chan_agent had, i.e., a pool of Queue agents that sit, being entertained, until something requests them out of that pool |
| 00:25.18 | mjordan | Hence, AgentLogin is alive, just completely rewritten |
| 00:25.32 | mjordan | And *mostly* backwards compatible, save for the ugly CDR rewriting stuff |
| 00:25.42 | mjordan | and there's no Agent/ channel driver |
| 00:25.51 | mjordan | so... not really backwards compatible. But users shouldn't notice as much! |
| 00:26.27 | mjordan | As an interesting point, this was the one major piece of functionality that was thrown away between 11 and 13. Most other stuff may not be completely backwards compatible, but was kept and preserved to the greatest extent that we could. |
| 00:26.32 | mjordan | chan_agent: DIE IN A FIRE. |
| 00:26.48 | mjordan | goes back to watching Harry Potter. WIZARDS. |
| 00:27.38 | [TK]D-Fender | agentlogin should probably get restructured more a memberlogin and use the similar cdr structures et as though they were a device type called |
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| 00:27.53 | [TK]D-Fender | though it'd be more of a bridge to the app the user it running |
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| 00:28.19 | mjordan | [TK]D-Fender: actually, under the hood, it is very much like that |
| 00:28.44 | mjordan | AgentLogin actually places the channel acting as the agent in a holding bridge, which is the same kind of bridge that Park and BridgeWait use |
| 00:28.48 | [TK]D-Fender | guess state device would be irrelevant for instance |
| 00:29.08 | [TK]D-Fender | since they are on a "call" of sorts |
| 00:29.25 | [TK]D-Fender | Would be good to ditch the WORD "agent" at the very least |
| 00:29.33 | [TK]D-Fender | just another member |
| 00:29.56 | mjordan | The name was kept mostly so that the concept was familiar |
| 00:30.02 | mjordan | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+Application_AgentRequest pulls them out of their holding area |
| 00:30.03 | [TK]D-Fender | DIAF <- |
| 00:30.12 | mjordan | :-D |
| 00:30.12 | [TK]D-Fender | let it die... |
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| 00:30.23 | [TK]D-Fender | #consistency |
| 00:30.29 | mjordan | Honestly, it's one of those features that if you really need it, you probably need to just write your own Queue |
| 00:30.39 | mjordan | but hey! There's something there in case you don't want to do the work |
| 00:30.51 | [TK]D-Fender | Actually this is a decently useful app IMO. |
| 00:31.06 | [TK]D-Fender | for the smaller population that appreciates them not getting "called" |
| 00:31.14 | [TK]D-Fender | esp as it can FORCE an answer |
| 00:31.26 | [TK]D-Fender | which is a business perogative |
| 00:31.33 | mjordan | well, you do know at least that your agents specifically chose not to get the call |
| 00:31.39 | [TK]D-Fender | taht defines some value |
| 00:31.42 | mjordan | true |
| 00:31.51 | mjordan | walks the dog |
| 00:31.57 | [TK]D-Fender | with this app you can remove that choice. |
| 00:35.15 | janicez | mjordan: |
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| 04:39.10 | *** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.4.0 (2015/06/04), 11.18.0 (2015/06/04), 1.8.32.3 (2015/04/08); Standard: 12.8.2 (2015/04/08); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.10.0 (2014/08/13), DAHDI-tools 2.10.0 (2014/08/13); libpri 1.4.15 (2014/06/16) -=- Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu |
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| 06:27.31 | *** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.4.0 (2015/06/04), 11.18.0 (2015/06/04), 1.8.32.3 (2015/04/08); Standard: 12.8.2 (2015/04/08); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.10.0 (2014/08/13), DAHDI-tools 2.10.0 (2014/08/13); libpri 1.4.15 (2014/06/16) -=- Asterisk wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu |
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| 13:02.29 | ketas | i love some of the comments in config files... like "disallow=lpc10 ; Icky sound quality... Mr. Roboto." |
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| 13:43.16 | dork | can anyone explain to me what 'permanent auth rejection' would mean in terms of an outbound trunks behavior? |
| 13:43.57 | dork | i'm trying to troubleshoot some all circuits busy issues w/ my trunk provider and i'm not sure about this option |
| 13:44.43 | file | it is used on outbound PJSIP registrations, and changes the behavior when a REGISTER attempt is done and fails due to failed authentication |
| 13:45.01 | file | by default they will be treated as a permanent failure and no further registration attempts will be done |
| 13:48.35 | dork | thanks file |
| 13:50.55 | dork | one more probably obvious (couldn't find any concrete search results) question, but are there any caveats to using different trunk providers for failover purposes? like if one provider is used as our main for DID registration/inbound/outbound, but then a second trunk by 8x8 or some other pjsip capable provider to use if vitelity has issues? |
| 13:51.24 | file | no, but that only covers outbound |
| 13:51.30 | dork | right |
| 13:51.51 | file | that's the only caveat |
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| 13:52.35 | dork | inbound basically consists of mirrored servers and dns records right? |
| 13:52.56 | dork | though if vitelity blew up... |
| 13:53.01 | dork | how does that work? hehe |
| 13:53.11 | file | it doesn't |
| 13:53.18 | dork | right |
| 13:53.19 | dork | gotcha |
| 13:53.26 | dork | thanks for the info file, much appreciated |
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| 17:01.54 | RobertLaptop | Question is there anyway to add something like an Echo command to a dial script? |
| 17:02.19 | WIMPy | Dial script? |
| 17:02.38 | WIMPy | There is the Echo application to do echo tests. |
| 17:03.33 | RobertLaptop | Dial plan |
| 17:03.57 | WIMPy | Then you got the answer. |
| 17:04.12 | RobertLaptop | My dial plan isn't working correctly but I am not sure were it is dieing. |
| 17:04.50 | WIMPy | Anecho test is not going to help with that. It can help you analyze audio issues. |
| 17:04.53 | RobertLaptop | So I want to dump out to the debug screen as it steps though. |
| 17:04.59 | WIMPy | Set verbose to at least 3 and see what happens. |
| 17:05.49 | RobertLaptop | I think that is what I am already doing "asterisk -rvvv" |
| 17:07.55 | [TK]D-Fender | What is "not working correctly"? |
| 17:09.10 | RobertLaptop | I have add a dialplan to check for a did in [from-pstn-custom] but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. |
| 17:09.37 | [TK]D-Fender | <RobertLaptop> My dial plan isn't working correctly but I am not sure were it is dieing. <- you should. It's either calling the apps the way you were expecting, or it doesn't. The line that isn't executing as you expect should be easily comparable to your config to highlight the point of failure |
| 17:09.51 | [TK]D-Fender | RobertLaptop, then it isn't getting used. |
| 17:10.02 | RobertLaptop | ok |
| 17:10.14 | [TK]D-Fender | RobertLaptop, maybe you made it wrong. |
| 17:10.24 | RobertLaptop | Could be |
| 17:10.26 | [TK]D-Fender | RobertLaptop, Or maybe other things match better. |
| 17:10.44 | [TK]D-Fender | RobertLaptop, Show us the call and your dialplan. |
| 17:10.45 | [TK]D-Fender | ~pb |
| 17:10.48 | infobot | A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://www.pastebin.com, http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude. |
| 17:10.49 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^ |
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| 22:49.53 | joker_89 | hi |
| 22:50.02 | joker_89 | can i install asterisk on raspberry? |
| 22:50.13 | WIMPy | Sure |
| 22:50.51 | joker_89 | but with raspbian? |
| 22:50.54 | joker_89 | distro |
| 22:51.15 | WIMPy | Yes, althoug it might be easier with another one. |
| 22:52.04 | joker_89 | i dont want to install an exclusive asterisk distro because i want other functionallities in my raspberry |
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