| 00:01.55 | zekoZeko | i'm thinking Soekris, but they're bloody expensive. I have no experience with Alix boards, but they're priced better. I'm looking for stuff like that. |
| 00:05.11 | WIMPy | They will all be as reliable as whatever you tell them to do. |
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| 00:09.24 | zekoZeko | this is currently done on a RPi, but it always has some trouble... we replaced the power supply, replaced the SD card, but it still occasionally craps and loses the filesystem and has to be power-cycled |
| 00:09.39 | zekoZeko | it's just shitty. |
| 00:10.40 | zekoZeko | basically what it does is open the parking ramp or the building door on calls from known caller ids. |
| 00:11.15 | zekoZeko | and i'm sick of fixing this thing every month or two when it decides to have some fun. |
| 00:12.44 | zekoZeko | i don't want something that uses bloody SD cards anymore. Give me some proper soldered-on flash or CF or something like that. |
| 00:16.30 | WIMPy | Maybe you shouldn't use raspbian with default settings. |
| 00:16.50 | WIMPy | Our hackerspace has used one for some months as Asterisk server without issues. |
| 00:16.57 | WIMPy | s |
| 00:19.33 | MaliutaLap | WIMPy: what distro are you using on the RPI? |
| 00:20.26 | WIMPy | Well, it's still mostly raspbian. After I managed to persuade it to let me complie what I wanted, I wasn't motivated to change it all again. |
| 00:20.57 | WIMPy | But it has some tweakd setting, which are absolutely essential and a custom kernel. |
| 00:21.24 | MaliutaLap | so it's the custom kernel that makes all the difference? |
| 00:21.47 | WIMPy | No. That just makes it a little faster. |
| 00:21.55 | zekoZeko | i'm really not in the mood to waste time on making a RPi run stable. |
| 00:22.12 | MaliutaLap | just wondering because I was about to deploy a couple for LDAP and other internal services |
| 00:22.19 | WIMPy | But the fact that raspbian doesn't have flash storage support enabled, although that's the only thing it has is rather absurd. |
| 00:22.53 | MaliutaLap | that's ... odd |
| 00:23.04 | WIMPy | It makes the storage slow and causes a lot of unneccessary wear on the card. |
| 00:23.49 | zekoZeko | WIMPy: the guy that created this conconction first used raspbx... i have no idea what he was doing, but this thing froze hard once a month and ate the filesystem. after a while i finally had enough and installed raspbian and only asterisk from raspbx and the other guy's scripts. |
| 00:24.13 | zekoZeko | it was working for 3 months and then started misbehaving again to the point of running for maybe half an hour after a reboot |
| 00:24.35 | WIMPy | Maybe it shreddered the SD card? |
| 00:24.36 | zekoZeko | today i connected a monitor and run fsck on boot, fixed 1 thing and now it works again... for how long i wonder. |
| 00:24.56 | zekoZeko | it has major trouble with storage, and i don't feel i should debug something so basic. |
| 00:25.07 | zekoZeko | it's just not usable for something that has to work 24/7. |
| 00:25.13 | zekoZeko | great toy for kids though. |
| 00:25.19 | WIMPy | Add a "discard" to the mount options. |
| 00:25.36 | zekoZeko | it doesn't write anything to the card |
| 00:25.40 | zekoZeko | syslog is remote only |
| 00:25.40 | WIMPy | And maybe do that on a fresh card. |
| 00:25.47 | zekoZeko | i did a fresh card already |
| 00:26.07 | WIMPy | No writes? Is it mountes read-only? |
| 00:26.11 | zekoZeko | no |
| 00:26.22 | zekoZeko | i mean, very low writes, probably some temporary files here and there |
| 00:26.33 | zekoZeko | it runs nothing but asterisk, sshd and syslog |
| 00:26.38 | WIMPy | Then it will probaly still write enough. |
| 00:26.40 | zekoZeko | and whatever the default raspbian cron jobs are |
| 00:26.55 | zekoZeko | this thing really doesn't do much, system load is 0 all the time. |
| 00:27.04 | zekoZeko | and still manages to fuck with me. |
| 00:27.14 | WIMPy | Do atimes ring a bell? |
| 00:27.23 | zekoZeko | let me check |
| 00:27.57 | WIMPy | The file atimes are disabled by default, but not dir atimes. |
| 00:27.58 | zekoZeko | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.59 | MaliutaLap | atimes can be evil |
| 00:28.12 | WIMPy | And does it have swap? |
| 00:28.12 | zekoZeko | noatime is superset of nodiratime |
| 00:28.26 | zekoZeko | no swap |
| 00:28.34 | zekoZeko | 42MB RAM used now of 256 |
| 00:28.40 | WIMPy | Nope |
| 00:28.52 | zekoZeko | yope |
| 00:29.19 | zekoZeko | https://lwn.net/Articles/245002/ |
| 00:29.26 | WIMPy | Since when. The original idea was to disable file atimes while keeping dir atimes. |
| 00:29.43 | WIMPy | 2007? |
| 00:30.09 | zekoZeko | well, show me a relevant source that is newer than that that says otherwise. |
| 00:30.12 | zekoZeko | a man page would do |
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| 00:31.27 | zekoZeko | i was just checking this yesterday, that's why i was able to supply that link so fast :) |
| 00:31.28 | WIMPy | The story I read was the you have the option of only disabling it for files while keeping it enabled for dirs so that certain email software would continue to work. |
| 00:31.45 | WIMPy | But according to that page that would not be a possible configuration. |
| 00:31.53 | zekoZeko | agreed. |
| 00:32.30 | zekoZeko | i was actually checking it because of a container somewhere that has a bunch of disk I/O and the underlying ZFS pool was not resilvering nowhere near fast enough. |
| 00:32.45 | zekoZeko | i was checking whether nodiratime was needed to because it was not set. |
| 00:32.50 | zekoZeko | and found out it's not. |
| 00:33.02 | WIMPy | man mount says that diratime (I.e. on) is the default. |
| 00:33.14 | zekoZeko | but so is atime |
| 00:33.49 | zekoZeko | i saw a link to the source somewhere, it's worth checking it out on recent kernels. |
| 00:34.11 | zekoZeko | in that article actually that i linked :) |
| 00:34.12 | WIMPy | atime seems somewhat shady... see strictatime. |
| 00:35.50 | zekoZeko | still same thing in fs/inode.c: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/fs/inode.c |
| 00:35.57 | zekoZeko | see atime_needs_update |
| 00:37.16 | WIMPy | At least the manual doesn't mention that only certain combinations will work as expected. |
| 00:37.23 | MaliutaLap | use the source WIMPy, use the source. </obi_wan_voice> |
| 00:39.21 | WIMPy | Yes, a noatime,diratime wouldn't work as it seems. Interesting. |
| 00:39.40 | zekoZeko | that's what i understand from that code, yeah. |
| 00:39.45 | WIMPy | But you are right. noatime will be enough. |
| 00:40.06 | zekoZeko | afaik about the mail programs, relatime is enough for those. |
| 00:40.24 | WIMPy | // needs documentation |
| 00:40.25 | zekoZeko | they just need to know whether the mail was read since being written (is it new) |
| 00:40.33 | WIMPy | Yes, that's what the man said. |
| 00:42.19 | WIMPy | But you still definitely want "discard". |
| 00:52.09 | zekoZeko | https://github.com/karelzak/util-linux/pull/213 |
| 00:52.34 | WIMPy | What's that? |
| 00:53.10 | zekoZeko | a pull request to fix the man page :) |
| 00:53.22 | WIMPy | Ah |
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| 00:55.05 | WIMPy | Hmm. |
| 00:56.02 | WIMPy | Much more important to mention that diratime will not switch on anything that's not on anyway. |
| 00:56.43 | zekoZeko | thank you. |
| 00:56.51 | zekoZeko | will add that |
| 00:58.00 | WIMPy | noatime,diratime will ignore diratime. It's an invalid/impossible combination. |
| 01:01.00 | zekoZeko | yes |
| 01:01.10 | zekoZeko | https://github.com/borutmrak/util-linux/commit/e7d53b984ae1e82302b6bc73323df528fb16d6f4 |
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| 01:10.48 | WIMPy | That's too much to copy manually. |
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| 01:20.16 | zekoZeko | no rodents? |
| 01:21.05 | WIMPy | Would have to compy it over to the PC. Can't connect github from here. |
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| 01:46.07 | WIMPy | I never knew that a dead battery on a PC would get you in to real trouble. Seems like I'm unabel to enable network boot. :-(( |
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| 10:32.49 | blaman | sorry to ask, but is there an irc channel for general telephony questions? |
| 10:33.13 | blaman | I mean a channel where a general telephony question would be more on topic than here |
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| 10:53.21 | WIMPy | I don't know. Just ask. |
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| 15:28.59 | notanoldman | Does "sip show channelstats" receive mean packets the phone is receiving or packets the server is receiving for each channel? |
| 15:29.09 | notanoldman | thanks |
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| 17:04.51 | Jayka | Hey guys, has anyone tried to save * voicemails to a FUSE file system? All I get is ast_lock_path_lockfile: Failed to lock path |
| 17:05.01 | Jayka | any way to disable locking maybe? |
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| 17:39.26 | Jayka | Hey guys, has anyone tried to save * voicemails to a FUSE file system? All I get is ast_lock_path_lockfile: Failed to lock path |
| 17:39.31 | Jayka | any way to disable locking maybe? |
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| 18:18.12 | spicyramen_ | Hi people, yesterday I was installing Asterisk with SRTP support and noticed that in the crypto caps there is no lifetime or MKI support |
| 18:18.44 | spicyramen_ | according to RFC "inline:" <key||salt> ["|" lifetime] ["|" MKI ":" length], the fields are OPTIONAL |
| 18:18.55 | spicyramen_ | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4568#section-9.2, is there a way to add them? |
| 18:19.08 | spicyramen_ | Asterisk 14.3 |
| 18:19.12 | spicyramen_ | 13.4* |
| 18:19.37 | spicyramen_ | thanks and have great day |
| 18:20.04 | file | Asterisk does not support it |
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| 18:35.02 | Jayka | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.07 | Jayka | any way to disable locking maybe? |
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| 19:46.34 | Jayka | Hey guys, has anyone tried to save * voicemails to a FUSE file system? All I get is ast_lock_path_lockfile: Failed to lock path |
| 19:46.38 | Jayka | any way to disable locking maybe? |
| 19:46.58 | file | Jayka, based on the lack of feedback I'd say no, and no there most likely is not |
| 19:48.27 | Jayka | any other options for shared filesystems? |
| 19:48.57 | Jayka | I know that there is an option to write them to temp dir and then move, but it is simply not working |
| 19:49.34 | Jayka | have tried both cache_record_files and the runtime flag |
| 19:51.01 | robmal | Drop it somewhere and rsync. |
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| 20:07.46 | Jayka | robmal, rsync is not scalable |
| 20:07.57 | Jayka | we are talking 20+ asterisk instances |
| 20:08.45 | Jayka | what's curious is that call recordings work just fine |
| 20:08.51 | Jayka | both with CIFS and FUSE |
| 20:08.55 | robmal | I'm talking 20 rsyncs to local FUSE mount. |
| 20:09.06 | robmal | What's wrong with that? |
| 20:09.41 | Jayka | sure, local rsyncs are better, but it's still a hack |
| 20:11.31 | robmal | Well, I have the pleasure of working with an ITSP which seems to know the RFC better than the authors so i change bits in the source code all the time. Last bad thing that happened because of it was my cat pissing next to the litter box. |
| 20:12.01 | robmal | That said, go with it. |
| 20:20.21 | Jayka | another problem with rsync is once we move the files, we can no longer play them via feature codes |
| 20:20.47 | Jayka | and we can't really just copy them, as we will eventually run out of space |
| 20:21.02 | robmal | Tried to play them from the new FUSE location? |
| 20:21.33 | robmal | Don't copy, move. Life's short, make difficult decisions. And backups offsite. |
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| 21:45.43 | Jayka | robmal, how would I configure that? |
| 21:46.19 | robmal | --remove-source-files or sth like that |
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| 21:56.53 | Jayka | what I mean is how do I make feature code-accessible voicemail playback from a shared folder |
| 21:57.05 | Jayka | ? |
| 21:57.21 | WIMPy | What does that even mean? |
| 21:58.06 | robmal | I'd guess DYNAMIC_FEATURES |
| 21:58.38 | WIMPy | Why would you play VM messages from within a call? |
| 21:58.50 | WIMPy | And how is that related to storage locations? |
| 21:59.57 | robmal | Sending all the VMs to the manager, press *1 to print vacation leave for yesterday. |
| 22:03.56 | Jayka | WIMPy - not from within a call, there are shortcuts to play voicemail, like **ext or something (that is configurable). The issue is, if I move voicemails from spool and onto a network dir, I am not sure about how to make that play back using those codes |
| 22:04.27 | robmal | Save them in /asd/ and Playback() from /qwe/ |
| 22:05.04 | WIMPy | I still don't see how that's related. |
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| 23:25.33 | eduzimrs | Hi Guys, i have two * boxes, one is for registration only and the other acts like a Gateway where all my SIP Providers are, both of them are set up to canreinvite=yes, the clients (x-lite) are on subnet 173.30.x.x and my SIP Providers are NAT outsided. The question is, i'd like to bypass RTP from my * Registration box because where i record the calls is at the Gateway box. |
| 23:26.27 | WIMPy | Enable it only on the registration box. ITSPs are very unlikely to play along. |
| 23:27.20 | eduzimrs | i've tryied that out whithout sucess. |
| 23:27.29 | eduzimrs | i've tried that out whithout sucess. |
| 23:27.54 | eduzimrs | * continues at the media path |
| 23:28.15 | pjensen00 | Question. I've set 'astspooldir' to /tmp/ in attempts to change where call recordings go, but even after a restart the call recordings end up in /var/spool/asterisk/ |
| 23:28.15 | eduzimrs | i'd like the media from the x-lite to Gateway box |
| 23:28.20 | WIMPy | Maybe you have something enabled that listens for DTMF? |
| 23:28.21 | pjensen00 | is there another place to change that? |
| 23:28.25 | WIMPy | Check your Dial() options. |
| 23:28.50 | eduzimrs | WIMPy, the Dial has no Options |
| 23:29.11 | eduzimrs | and the codecs of x-lite and Gateway are alaw |
| 23:29.39 | WIMPy | Active features? |
| 23:30.46 | eduzimrs | automon and blindxfer |
| 23:30.54 | eduzimrs | automon and blindxfer and atxfer |
| 23:31.23 | pjensen00 | This variable is bumming me out. :( |
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| 23:32.20 | WIMPy | pjensen00: Does it show up with 'core show settings'? |
| 23:32.45 | przerull | hey so I keep getting "Called with SDP without ice-ufrag and ice-pwd" when trying to place a call through webrtc |
| 23:32.53 | przerull | I've definitely have libuuid-dev |
| 23:32.58 | przerull | and icesupport is enabled |
| 23:33.01 | pjensen00 | no, it's still "/var/spool/asterisk" in that |
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| 23:33.02 | eduzimrs | WIMPy, All my SIP Providers are G729 |
| 23:33.22 | przerull | i'm running asterisk 11.19 |
| 23:33.25 | przerull | any ideas? |
| 23:33.29 | WIMPy | pjensen00: Did you uncomment your asterisk.conf? |
| 23:34.23 | pjensen00 | WIMPy: Oh wait.... is the (!) after the [directories] a ... some kind of flag saying "ignore me"? |
| 23:34.44 | pjensen00 | http://pastebin.com/5ALPstbg |
| 23:34.56 | file | it means template. |
| 23:34.58 | WIMPy | It makes it a template. So unless that is referenced it does nothing. |
| 23:35.20 | pjensen00 | .... oooohhhhhh man. I feel silly now. |
| 23:35.42 | eduzimrs | WIMPy, for better understanding, reg * box dials to GW box and there is where the route decision is made. |
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| 23:59.16 | eduzimrs | WIMPy, any ideas? |
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