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| 03:20.47 | WIMPy | overyander: No. If you leaave them blank, Asterisk will acept anything. |
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| 03:40.32 | overyander | thanks WIMPy |
| 03:41.18 | overyander | I also never knew that sip used ICMP replies to negotiate a register |
| 03:41.37 | WIMPy | It doesn't. |
| 03:42.47 | overyander | my tcp dump showed that each register packet from the phone to the server was immediately followed by an ICMP packet from the server to the public ip of the phone, this packet was dropped each time |
| 03:43.27 | WIMPy | That was just your servers OS being friendly and informing you that there's no application running on that port. |
| 03:43.47 | overyander | oh |
| 03:44.34 | overyander | but, my providers sip account was registered already and was able to qualify. that means that * was listening and running on that port right? |
| 03:44.59 | WIMPy | Not neccessarily, no. |
| 03:45.07 | overyander | my providers account is setup as a static host, no nat. the softphone i was setting up was a dynamic host with nat |
| 03:45.23 | WIMPy | The IP os part of what you listen to. |
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| 04:44.17 | hjf | hi all. i'm trying to figure this one out. i don't have all the details yet since i've only spoken over the phone with a mid-level tech from the ITSP |
| 04:44.51 | hjf | we'll be getting a block of numbers from them, and he told me they will just give me an ethernet port at the FTTH box for these |
| 04:45.15 | hjf | there's no authentication, just ip-based authorization |
| 04:45.59 | hjf | so... how does this work? do i need 1 IP (from them) for each number? |
| 04:46.38 | hjf | i want to use password auth in my LAN and i'd need some way to convert that into the "IP" auth. is asterisk the tool for this? |
| 04:46.59 | WIMPy | It can be. |
| 04:47.40 | hjf | can i assign several IPs to it and it will use the correct one accordingly? |
| 04:47.59 | WIMPy | No |
| 04:48.13 | WIMPy | And yo don't need multiople IPs. |
| 04:49.03 | hjf | good |
| 04:49.11 | hjf | so... what should i be googling for? |
| 04:50.13 | WIMPy | Sounds like you need VOIP for dummies if that exists. |
| 04:50.37 | WIMPy | For asterisk there's the book that may also give some general insights into VOIP. |
| 04:50.42 | WIMPy | ~book |
| 04:50.42 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
| 04:51.43 | hjf | WIMPy: no i mean, i have some basic experience with asterisk. the question is, what should i be looking for? trunking, i guess? |
| 04:52.32 | WIMPy | That's something that doesn't even exist beyound marketing. |
| 04:53.13 | WIMPy | Just normal SIP configuration. |
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| 06:17.09 | z30 | Hi guys, im looking for Fax transmit in asterisk to cisco with g711 codec |
| 06:17.17 | z30 | anyone can help me? |
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| 06:25.07 | z30 | Cisco Router and asterisk transmit Calls with g729. |
| 06:25.49 | z30 | but i need to transmit Faxs with g711 to cisco on the ethernet interface |
| 06:26.34 | z30 | my dial-peer in cisco and extension in asterisk is right and i have call between thembut fax fail! |
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| 06:29.37 | WIMPy | See disallow/allow in sip.conf. |
| 06:32.47 | z30 | it's Ok, i allow codecs, it's not codec problem i think. |
| 06:33.32 | z30 | do i need any thing else for fax? i enable fax detect on chan_dahdi.conf and sip.conf |
| 06:34.13 | z30 | do i need to define special fax extension or use some sort of new config? |
| 06:37.49 | WIMPy | YOU said you have a CODEC issue. |
| 06:38.37 | WIMPy | If you want to use T.38 you need to enable udptl. There's no CODEC incolved there. |
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| 07:18.31 | z30 | no i don't have codec issue! my problem in translation between g729 to g711 |
| 07:19.12 | z30 | i use both codec! my call use g729 and my fax must be use g711 to comunicate with cisco |
| 07:19.35 | z30 | i don't need T.38! i must use g711 |
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| 09:24.54 | ghost75 | is there no more faxmode variable? |
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| 12:49.36 | ghost75 | for 1 phone asterisk with pstn card is just overkill |
| 12:51.32 | joe9 | ghost75: Thanks for the response. I am just wondering how I can replace the VOIP router as the service has become very unreliable. I want to switch to voip.ms or some such service. |
| 12:52.15 | joe9 | ghost75: I read that OBI110 is a good device that works with voip.ms . I am also wondering if I can just use the pc (which is always on) instead of the OBI110 |
| 12:52.29 | ghost75 | then why use pstn card when using voip |
| 12:53.05 | joe9 | ghost75: it is a linux pc and I am trying to figure out what I would need to replicate the obi110 (ata?) on a pc. |
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| 12:53.57 | ghost75 | ah, phone to computer |
| 12:54.06 | joe9 | ghost75: I do not know what "pstn" means. I presume that it means the old style analog phone line. I do not need that. I have an analog cordless phone that I plug into the VOIP router currently. |
| 12:54.36 | ghost75 | connect that obi at to asterisk |
| 12:54.38 | joe9 | ghost75: I am trying to figure out how that would connect to the pc so I can use the pc instead of the OBI router. |
| 12:55.04 | joe9 | ghost75: I do not want to use the OBI, but, use the pc instead of the obi. |
| 12:55.39 | ghost75 | then use cisco spa ata |
| 12:55.57 | joe9 | ghost75: I do not have a OBI110 now. I would have to buy that. Instead of buying the obi, I want to check if I can just buy a pci card to which I can connect the cordless phone. |
| 12:56.08 | joe9 | ghost75: ok, thanks. will check out cisco spa ata. |
| 12:56.50 | ghost75 | i dont know any pci card that is an ata |
| 12:57.58 | joe9 | ghost75: oh, ok. Thanks. There seems to alternatives to the OBI device. But, I cannot seem to find an ATA PCI card that I can use instead of the OBI device. |
| 12:58.46 | ghost75 | an ata converts voip to analog signal, i never seen any pci cards instead this are small boxes with their own ip address |
| 12:59.19 | ghost75 | http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/small-business-voice-gateways-ata/datasheet_C78-691107.html |
| 12:59.25 | ghost75 | or get an voip phone instead |
| 12:59.51 | joe9 | ghost75: I have been finding those boxes too. ok, thanks. let me check voip phones. |
| 13:00.10 | ghost75 | anything which speaks sip |
| 13:01.55 | ghost75 | some dsl routers can be used as ata too |
| 13:03.25 | WIMPy | joe9: You were completely right. If you want to connect an analog phone toe the PC you're looking for a card with a FXS port. |
| 13:04.06 | WIMPy | However you can also get base stations for cordless phones that connect to ethernet directly and speak SIP. |
| 13:04.41 | joe9 | ghost75: It just seemed to be annoying to have another box (router, firewall, etc) when my pc does all that already. Hence, wanted to check about it. |
| 13:05.37 | joe9 | WIMPy: are you aware of any PCI card with a singe FXS port. The PCI cards with FXS ports seem to be very expensive too. (compared with the OBI110) |
| 13:06.34 | ghost75 | didnt know phone can be connected like that |
| 13:06.37 | WIMPy | There are modular ones that can have 1-4 ports. Look at http://www.digium.com/ for good cards. And yes, they are expensive. |
| 13:06.41 | joe9 | WIMPy: I tried searching the digium products for that. |
| 13:08.13 | joe9 | http://homenw.blogspot.com/2010/03/setting-up-bsd-ata-box-with-asterisk.html seems to be a good lead . |
| 13:08.20 | WIMPy | If you only want a cordless phone, it might make more sense to get one that does VOIP natively. For the residential/Soho market Gigasets are well known. |
| 13:09.38 | joe9 | WIMPy: ok, will check that. |
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| 13:17.12 | joe9 | WIMPy, looks like the Gigaset phones also come with a small box (I presume that is the ata) |
| 13:17.30 | WIMPy | No. |
| 13:17.42 | WIMPy | Any cordless phone needs somethign to connect to. |
| 13:17.51 | ghost75 | dect repeater with ata included |
| 13:18.03 | WIMPy | But somethign that has an analog phone interface doesn't make sense any more. |
| 13:18.23 | WIMPy | There's nothing analog involved. So no ata. |
| 13:18.26 | ghost75 | gigaset n510ip works ok and damn cheap |
| 13:18.45 | ghost75 | dect is still kind of analog i think |
| 13:18.54 | WIMPy | Nope. |
| 13:19.35 | WIMPy | CT1/CT2 were analog. |
| 13:19.43 | ghost75 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.44 | ghost75 | aha |
| 13:19.49 | WIMPy | An aerea long gone. |
| 13:20.35 | WIMPy | And by now DECT is more of a well known marketing term as the new phones really are CAT-iq. (you could call that DECT v2). |
| 13:21.23 | WIMPy | So you really want CAT-iq, but that's hardly ever used in marketing. |
| 13:24.14 | ghost75 | are there really people connecting phones to fxs port on computer? |
| 13:25.20 | joe9 | WIMPy: ghost75, quick question. it seems that I would be spending just a little more when I go with a PCI card with FXS ports compared to buying the gigaset phone. |
| 13:25.29 | joe9 | http://www.openvox.cn/products/telephony-cards/analog-cards/33/a400p-detail.html |
| 13:25.41 | joe9 | as described here http://homenw.blogspot.com/2010/03/setting-up-bsd-ata-box-with-asterisk.html |
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| 13:28.40 | ghost75 | what is the question |
| 13:30.10 | joe9 | "people connecting phones to fxs port on computer?" -- I think the above would help with that. |
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| 13:31.10 | ghost75 | i just think its not very common |
| 13:33.20 | joe9 | ghost75: I agree. It supports linux natively. |
| 13:34.24 | joe9 | WIMPy: Any kind thoughts, please? I would have to spend the money on OBI, gigaset phone or this card. It appears that this is a better option as I can use any analog phone with this card. |
| 13:34.37 | joe9 | I can still use the pc and asterisk for the configuration, etc. |
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| 13:40.11 | WIMPy | Of course there are people connecting legacy telephony equipment to their computers. |
| 13:40.40 | WIMPy | joe9: It really depends on your needs. |
| 13:41.25 | WIMPy | If you only want a cordless phone I'd go for a gigaset (or something similar from another brand) that works on its own. |
| 13:41.56 | WIMPy | If you want to be able to connect other legacy phones, a PC card or an ATA would make more sense. |
| 13:44.30 | WIMPy | Using a cordless phone with an analogue base and connect that to an ATA doesn't make much sense unless you already have that. Call handling on analog is rather iffy. |
| 13:45.55 | joe9 | WIMPy: Thanks. |
| 13:46.41 | matt_ | joe9: i use grandstream DP715's for cordless phones, they are cheap, they are dect so you dont get better drain due to wireless and the base is SIP |
| 13:47.26 | ghost75 | some ata are nightmare to administer |
| 13:47.30 | matt_ | s/better/battery/ |
| 13:48.13 | matt_ | lol, i didn't know infobot did that |
| 13:48.54 | WIMPy | No G.722 :-( |
| 13:49.00 | ghost75 | somebody knows audiocodes ata? |
| 13:49.17 | ghost75 | what idiot did make that webui |
| 13:49.27 | matt_ | oh |
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| 13:59.41 | joe9 | matt_: ok, thanks. |
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| 14:05.21 | joe9 | if I go with the pci/e card route, do i need to worry about echo cancellation? Digium sells an echo cancellation module (vpm032) but I am not sure if I need it. |
| 14:05.42 | WIMPy | yes |
| 14:06.11 | WIMPy | But for one channel whatever CPU you have in that PC should easily do that in software. |
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| 14:06.55 | joe9 | WIMPy, ok thanks |
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| 14:56.44 | joe9 | WIMPy: another quick question: http://www.openvox.cn/products/telephony-cards/analog-cards/32/a400e-detail.html#specifications is a TDM400P compatible card for around $100. whereas digium 1A4B00F goes for about $280/-. Just want to check if you might have any thoughts on if the price difference is justifiable? |
| 14:58.50 | WIMPy | With analog stuff, quality matters. |
| 14:59.16 | joe9 | WIMPy: ok, thanks. |
| 15:01.06 | WIMPy | OTHO I don't think I have seen any vendor statin if they have balanced or unbalanced ports, so "quality" might be a bit of a stretch. |
| 15:01.26 | WIMPy | doh |
| 15:04.50 | joe9 | WIMPy: do you mean that even the digium cards would not be of good quality? |
| 15:05.06 | WIMPy | I have no idea. |
| 15:05.52 | WIMPy | Just saying that I haven't seen any information about that specific quality characteristic. |
| 15:06.30 | WIMPy | Then again I'm not sure if analog can really be good. |
| 15:15.32 | joe9 | WIMPy: ok, thanks. |
| 15:15.49 | ghost75 | like fax over voip :< |
| 15:16.28 | joe9 | WIMPy: do you know if I can use a digital card but with a FXS port? |
| 15:16.56 | WIMPy | No. Digital is digital, not analog. |
| 15:17.47 | WIMPy | You could use a digital card and an external converter. Probably doesn't make much sense other than the combination would be a lot cheaper. |
| 15:20.14 | joe9 | WIMPy: I checked out the hybrid cards and they have FXS ports. They are around $100 more expensive. |
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| 15:27.49 | [TK]D-Fender | For the purpose of adding fax machines primarily |
| 15:28.11 | [TK]D-Fender | to ensure clock sync across the ports |
| 15:36.22 | joe9 | It appears that TDM400 is a very highly regarded card. |
| 15:36.43 | joe9 | though out-of-date now. replaced by the A4 series by digium. |
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| 16:24.10 | marlinc | Is Asterisk 13 available in any Ubuntu distro at the moment? So I don't have to compile from scratch |
| 16:26.29 | [TK]D-Fender | did you look at "apt-get install asterisk*" and see what range was available? |
| 16:26.40 | [TK]D-Fender | It would tell you rather instantly |
| 16:29.42 | marlinc | No I actually started searching on Google and looking through Ubuntu's package site |
| 16:29.54 | ghost75 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=asterisk |
| 16:29.55 | ghost75 | seems hard |
| 16:31.05 | [TK]D-Fender | Sure looks like a while lot of 13 there |
| 16:31.30 | [TK]D-Fender | vivid (comm): Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) [universe] |
| 16:31.30 | [TK]D-Fender | 1:13.1.0~dfsg-1ubuntu2: amd64 i386 |
| 16:31.30 | [TK]D-Fender | wily (comm): Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX) [universe] |
| 16:31.30 | [TK]D-Fender | 1:13.1.0~dfsg-1.1ubuntu3: amd64 i386 |
| 16:32.23 | [TK]D-Fender | heads out for a while |
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