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| 03:38.16 | moe` | anyone else having trouble assigning SIP channels to a Skype Connect SIP profile? |
| 03:38.21 | moe` | be busted for me for days now |
| 03:38.34 | moe` | cannot activate SIP profiles cuz of this |
| 03:39.25 | moe` | I finally deleted all SIP profiles and am waiting 24-48 hours to see if this settles this problem |
| 03:39.47 | moe` | I cannot believe its a global issue, something with my own skype account it must needs be. |
| 03:40.36 | moe` | ? |
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| 05:12.02 | moe` | well now, actually got MS on a text chat, and they couldn't figure out my issues with allocating channels or credit to a SIP profile |
| 05:12.05 | moe` | escalated |
| 05:12.26 | moe` | they actually did and had me do some reasonable tests |
| 05:12.38 | moe` | now I await the next tier of support to contact me |
| 05:12.51 | moe` | I will give them some bit of credit for this |
| 05:13.03 | moe` | I told them at first it appeared to be a back-end mis-sync or somefun |
| 05:13.56 | moe` | after testing, they came back and said please wait 30-60 mins and provide some more debugging details which we will ask for via email, so as to ensure it is not a global issue with the configuration steps you did |
| 05:14.10 | moe` | prolly a bunch of crap, that, but still, at least they are responding |
| 05:14.19 | moe` | so surprise |
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| 07:06.31 | linocisco | hi all, what is the free CRM with Asterisk integration included? |
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| 08:54.16 | linocisco | hi all, what is the free CRM with Asterisk integration included? |
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| 12:07.28 | FreezeS | Hi guys! I have an old asterisk which I'm trying to move to Amazon. Old one is running 11.2.1, new one is 13.6.0. The problem is that the old one had a public IP and new one is behind Amazon's NAT. I configured externip and nat in sip.conf, but the problem is that I have MessageSend(${SIPURI}) in the dialplan. This sends the message to the local IP of the remote peer. How can I get the public URI? |
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| 13:30.57 | MaliutaLap | ~sipnat |
| 13:30.58 | infobot | [~sipnat] Quick guide on configuring Asterisk + SIP behind NAT: http://www.aocomputing.net/?p=3 otherwise check the wiki at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions . Typically, you MUST configure these settings with appropriate values in the [general] section of sip.conf: nat, directmedia, externhost or externaddr, and localnet. |
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| 13:58.14 | FreezeS | MaliutaLap: thing is, the calls work, the problem is just with MessageSend |
| 13:58.54 | FreezeS | I need the variable where the public IP of the client is stored |
| 14:02.02 | MaliutaLap | my advice is to get something with a real IP |
| 14:02.17 | FreezeS | unfortunately that is impossible now |
| 14:02.40 | MaliutaLap | seriously, I went to the extra expense of getting a /29 at home just for my * box |
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| 14:03.09 | FreezeS | I know, but this project has to be completed tomorrow |
| 14:03.24 | ModFather | hi robmal :) |
| 14:04.09 | MaliutaLap | FreezeS: then I would suggest you're not going to make deadline |
| 14:04.37 | WIMPy | MaliutaLap: But Asterisk sdoesn't really like multiple IPs :-) |
| 14:05.10 | MaliutaLap | WIMPy: I don't put the _whole_ /29 onto the * box :P |
| 14:05.31 | MaliutaLap | WIMPy: just like I don't put the whole /56 ipv6 range on the * box :P |
| 14:09.45 | moe` | snap, Skype support actually got back to me |
| 14:09.59 | moe` | for Skype Connect SIP |
| 14:10.00 | MaliutaLap | moe`: I'm sorry |
| 14:10.14 | moe` | ahha |
| 14:10.25 | moe` | well yeah that's what they said |
| 14:10.34 | MaliutaLap | dealing with skype has to be the absolute crapest thing one could be asked to do |
| 14:10.59 | moe` | well I got flowroute as another SIP provider |
| 14:11.04 | MaliutaLap | moe`: they were that polite about it? |
| 14:11.13 | moe` | oh very polite, of course |
| 14:11.39 | MaliutaLap | perhaps I need to get a job a skype ... just to harden up those responses |
| 14:12.02 | MaliutaLap | is not known for tact when dealing with users |
| 14:12.03 | moe` | nevermind I got users pissed off and over $200USD credit on my manager account waiting to juice the SIP profile for channels and call credit |
| 14:13.01 | moe` | the last few days, telling users use a 7 prefix to dial international, not 9 prefix |
| 14:13.13 | moe` | meanwhile both prefixes were there all along |
| 14:13.32 | WIMPy | You were too lazy to change the dialplan? |
| 14:13.34 | moe` | 7 == flowroute, 9 == skype on my asterisk setup |
| 14:13.39 | MaliutaLap | I don't deal with users anymore. To the relief of both me and them |
| 14:13.44 | moe` | well I could but I was expecting a fix |
| 14:13.51 | moe` | maybe I map 9 prefix to flowroute too |
| 14:13.55 | moe` | that'd be easy |
| 14:14.11 | moe` | yeah that's rather dumb |
| 14:14.16 | moe` | hang on I'll do that now |
| 14:14.22 | WIMPy | MaliutaLap: :-) |
| 14:14.37 | MaliutaLap | moe`: but users _are_ dumb |
| 14:15.01 | MaliutaLap | developers are worse though |
| 14:15.06 | moe` | there |
| 14:15.19 | moe` | 9 prefix that was skype is now mapped to flowroute outbound |
| 14:15.22 | moe` | fixed |
| 14:15.38 | moe` | DIDs on skype were not used anyways |
| 14:15.42 | WIMPy | Shouldn't you have some more intelligent rules to chose ITSP? |
| 14:16.00 | moe` | DIDs on flowroute were in use, but that SIP connection is rock solid since I got it |
| 14:16.21 | MaliutaLap | WIMPy: you're implying someone on the internet should be intelligent - that's where you argument looses |
| 14:16.26 | moe` | well WIMPy in some cases I like to leave it to the user |
| 14:16.32 | moe` | 9 prefix = skype |
| 14:16.34 | moe` | if that sucks |
| 14:16.40 | moe` | 7 prefix = flowroute |
| 14:16.49 | moe` | if that sucks |
| 14:16.51 | moe` | fuck you |
| 14:16.52 | moe` | :) |
| 14:16.54 | WIMPy | MaliutaLap: You win. |
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| 14:17.05 | MaliutaLap | WIMPy: of course I do :P |
| 14:17.09 | moe` | oh that's harsh |
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| 14:17.35 | MaliutaLap | moe`: I skip steps 1 and 2, and go straight to "fuck you" :) |
| 14:17.54 | WIMPy | efficiency++ |
| 14:17.55 | MaliutaLap | "this is how it is ... live with it or fuck off" |
| 14:18.11 | moe` | well, ok, this is a can of worms |
| 14:18.12 | [TK]D-Fender | Dialing prefixes, so 1980..... |
| 14:18.30 | moe` | [TK]D-Fender you know once I get on this it'll never end |
| 14:18.38 | MaliutaLap | [TK]D-Fender: it's like in that move "War Games" |
| 14:18.46 | moe` | something with asterisk conf's confounds me |
| 14:18.49 | [TK]D-Fender | "Would you like to play a game?" |
| 14:19.09 | moe` | there's something basic I still don't understand, it would seem |
| 14:19.32 | MaliutaLap | [TK]D-Fender: we should all be making our voice calls via VoIP with an acoustic coupler! |
| 14:19.50 | [TK]D-Fender | That was my first modem |
| 14:19.57 | moe` | ooohh oohhh I want the 300bps acoustic coupler |
| 14:20.03 | moe` | and it must have a rotary dial |
| 14:20.08 | [TK]D-Fender | My second you still had to throw a manual toggle switch to initiate a carrier signal |
| 14:20.18 | WIMPy | I think these things are calld digital telephones. |
| 14:20.25 | WIMPy | The accoustic coupler is the handset. |
| 14:20.39 | moe` | yeah but the modems of olde |
| 14:20.46 | moe` | they coupled with the handset |
| 14:20.57 | MaliutaLap | can you whistle at 9600 baud though? |
| 14:21.03 | WIMPy | was late my first one already had 1200/75 in addition to the usual 300. |
| 14:21.07 | moe` | I can whistle 2400bps FAX |
| 14:21.25 | MaliutaLap | bps? we measure in baud |
| 14:21.32 | moe` | well yeah |
| 14:21.40 | moe` | bps != baud but mostly |
| 14:21.49 | WIMPy | Well, will 300 it was both bps as well as baud. |
| 14:22.01 | WIMPy | s/will/with/ |
| 14:22.03 | moe` | I could make a FAX call try to train for 3 mins or more with whistling |
| 14:22.06 | moe` | done that |
| 14:22.14 | MaliutaLap | back when modems where baudy |
| 14:22.56 | MaliutaLap | yet another of my tech jokes that is lacking an audience |
| 14:23.18 | moe` | cuz it wasn't funny? |
| 14:23.20 | MaliutaLap | the other day I had two sterotyping puns running at the same time |
| 14:23.40 | MaliutaLap | moe`: because nobody really understands |
| 14:23.46 | moe` | oh my, do I try the twilio SIP again? |
| 14:24.03 | moe` | my do I always go to this when I'm done a dozen beers |
| 14:24.43 | MaliutaLap | goes to bed before he is tempted to open the two bottles of Queensland Parliamentary wine he won tonight |
| 14:24.54 | moe` | open one, at least |
| 14:25.00 | moe` | you know you wanna |
| 14:25.23 | MaliutaLap | it 00:25 ... and I've been up way to long |
| 14:25.35 | moe` | yeah its 10:25 I've been up all night |
| 14:25.41 | moe` | your point is? |
| 14:25.52 | MaliutaLap | I'm old, and health impared |
| 14:25.59 | moe` | what's old? |
| 14:26.11 | moe` | do you have 41 years of stupid yet? |
| 14:26.21 | MaliutaLap | 37 ... and I lost the last 12 years to cancer |
| 14:27.04 | moe` | oh. sorry man. didn't mean to push on that. |
| 14:27.19 | MaliutaLap | so my two cateract surgeries, 3 hip replacements, and permanent nerve damage trump your all nighters |
| 14:27.31 | moe` | absolutely. |
| 14:27.57 | MaliutaLap | don't get into an argument with me over health stuff ... I win :P |
| 14:28.12 | moe` | I have a chronic throat irritation but doctors say its actually a nervous tick, I was twitching over something more serious |
| 14:28.17 | moe` | but now I see that's nothing |
| 14:28.55 | MaliutaLap | I'll have a full set of dentures before my 38th birthday |
| 14:29.14 | moe` | they prescribed Xanax believe it or not. I hate that. |
| 14:29.18 | moe` | still, trivial details |
| 14:29.37 | moe` | (never filled the prescription) |
| 14:30.36 | MaliutaLap | xanax is an antihistamine isn't it? |
| 14:31.01 | MaliutaLap | I keep a bunch of Loratdine around (with a bunch of heavier stuff too) |
| 14:31.14 | MaliutaLap | my bedroom is like a pharmacy |
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| 14:31.50 | moe` | I dunno, to me, I took Xanax only twice |
| 14:31.57 | moe` | and it made me grin like an idiot |
| 14:32.01 | moe` | and sleep like a baby |
| 14:32.24 | moe` | didn't like it either |
| 14:33.45 | moe` | mostly I sleep 10-15 mins at a time, but get into REM(dream) and figure an hour or 4 has passed, when its only 10mins |
| 14:34.21 | moe` | maybe that's the perfect target for Xanax, but fuck that I'll self medicate |
| 14:34.23 | moe` | woohoo |
| 14:34.31 | moe` | beer, beer, beer |
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| 14:38.29 | igcewieling1 | moe`: tell your dr to try some other drug. |
| 14:38.45 | igcewieling1 | Whatever you do don't let him prescribe Ambian |
| 14:39.53 | moe` | nah, I'll be ok... I just need to get this twilio SIP trunk up |
| 14:40.00 | moe` | that'll make me sleep :) |
| 14:40.56 | igcewieling1 | I recently joined the Ambian Will Ruin the World Cabal. 8-( |
| 14:41.43 | moe` | going to mess with twilio now |
| 14:44.40 | moe` | so what's this fresh hell |
| 14:44.47 | moe` | twilio wants SIP endpoints |
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| 14:46.27 | moe` | what's this SIP URI, a dynamic I create on their side that the asterisk connects to? |
| 14:47.01 | moe` | WIMPy, file, malcolmd, [TK]D-Fender? |
| 14:47.18 | [TK]D-Fender | fix yoru prhasing |
| 14:47.20 | WIMPy | What? |
| 14:47.32 | moe` | new SIP endpoint |
| 14:47.37 | moe` | SIP URI |
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| 14:47.49 | moe` | *.sip.twilio.com |
| 14:47.58 | WIMPy | URIs should be known and SIP doesn't connect. |
| 14:48.10 | moe` | so ignore that |
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| 14:48.41 | badbit | Anyone here who's done much with pjsip? |
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| 14:50.11 | moe` | see apparently an ACL already exists |
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| 14:50.17 | moe` | damn this stupid point and click |
| 14:51.50 | moe` | ok, ACL has one IP, which is my asterisk instance |
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| 14:54.09 | Guest8839 | We're running asterisk 11, however in the sip dialogs we can see that there is no 180 or 183 being sent. |
| 14:54.14 | Guest8839 | Is there a setting that needs to be set? |
| 14:54.48 | Guest8839 | On voip-info it says that a 180 is being sent if a OK has not yet been sent, which is not the case in our scenario |
| 14:54.57 | Guest8839 | ^ default behavior |
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| 14:56.06 | WIMPy | See "progressinband". |
| 14:56.20 | WIMPy | What was the other thing I had to change? |
| 14:56.56 | wdoekes | it really depends on his dialplan. if he forwards it to another phone, things should just work |
| 14:57.06 | WIMPy | prematuremedia |
| 14:57.26 | wdoekes | if he plays announcements before picking up, then you may need something |
| 14:57.44 | [TK]D-Fender | Not premature .... just excited... |
| 14:58.03 | WIMPy | I can't remember havin anything "just work" since using Asterisk. |
| 14:58.16 | Guest8839 | we have queues with annoucements |
| 14:58.19 | Guest8839 | before the call hits the agent |
| 14:58.44 | wdoekes | Guest8839: you'll need to pick up (Answer()) before sending the caller into the queue |
| 14:58.55 | wdoekes | they won't stay in Ringing forever |
| 15:01.16 | Guest8839 | would adding progressinband do anything about this issue? |
| 15:02.18 | WIMPy | I don't see where you actually expect something different from what you've got if you're using queues with announcements. |
| 15:02.58 | WIMPy | As wdoekes said, te call would have to be answered right away. |
| 15:03.10 | Guest8839 | Ok |
| 15:03.46 | moe` | goddamn, I think I understand it |
| 15:04.03 | WIMPy | moe`: More beer! |
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| 15:05.01 | Guest8839 | Well I do not understand, we're sending an OK so the call is being answered in the queue |
| 15:05.24 | Guest8839 | however no 180 or 183 |
| 15:05.39 | moe` | dammit, didn't work |
| 15:05.44 | WIMPy | What would they be good for when you send an OK? |
| 15:07.35 | moe` | ok now we're flailing again |
| 15:07.46 | Guest8839 | WIMPy: currently we have a operator here who cannot handle the call when the 200 comes before 180 |
| 15:07.53 | Guest8839 | They are working on it but we need a work around |
| 15:08.48 | moe` | is the register statement not .... SIPuser:pass@endpoint ? |
| 15:09.18 | [TK]D-Fender | moe`: read the sample config... |
| 15:10.12 | moe` | you know that never works for me dude :) |
| 15:10.55 | [TK]D-Fender | It's in there. deal with CRTL-F |
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| 15:12.10 | WIMPy | Guest8839: Sounds broken. But you could always add an explicit Ringing() before doing the Anser(). |
| 15:12.27 | Guest8839 | Well yeah it is broken |
| 15:12.47 | moe` | man |
| 15:13.37 | WIMPy | would prefer if Asterisk didn't send so manu unneccessary messages. |
| 15:21.43 | moe` | nup, dollar |
| 15:21.50 | moe` | I just don't get twilio details man |
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| 15:28.57 | moe` | tell me, the register statement in sip.conf stands on its own, right? |
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| 15:29.09 | moe` | no [block] required for that sip connection? |
| 15:29.21 | [TK]D-Fender | do NOT call it a "connection" |
| 15:29.30 | moe` | well ok |
| 15:29.32 | [TK]D-Fender | And no, register stands alone |
| 15:29.41 | [TK]D-Fender | ~sipregister |
| 15:29.48 | infobot | [~sipregister] SIP registration is to tell your provider what IP address & EXTEN to send INCOMING calls to. Some ITSPs let you use a fixed address or host rather than registering. Registration is NOT normally needed to PLACE calls, as those are typically auth'ed independently. Others accept unauth'ed calls once you are registered (saves on negotiation BW). |
| 15:29.48 | WIMPy | Yes, but have you noticed the replacement called callbackextension? |
| 15:29.53 | moe` | register proper statement means that sip show registry should work? |
| 15:29.54 | [TK]D-Fender | WIMPy: "alternative" |
| 15:29.59 | moe` | no [block] required? |
| 15:30.01 | [TK]D-Fender | moe`: yes |
| 15:30.11 | [TK]D-Fender | moe`register proper statement means that sip show registry should work? <- yes |
| 15:30.18 | WIMPy | A much nicer alternative. No duplicate data. |
| 15:30.22 | moe` | thank you [TK]D-Fender |
| 15:30.52 | [TK]D-Fender | WIMPy: Depends if it needs different as well. |
| 15:31.16 | moe` | so I don't need a [twilio] block (for example) to register to twilio |
| 15:31.21 | moe` | just a register statement |
| 15:31.22 | [TK]D-Fender | WIMPy: considering some use separate registrar vs proxy, etc |
| 15:31.38 | [TK]D-Fender | [10:29]infobot[~sipregister] SIP registration is to tell your provider what IP address & EXTEN to send INCOMING calls to. Some ITSPs let you use a fixed address or host rather than registering. Registration is NOT normally needed to PLACE calls, as those are typically auth'ed independently. Others accept unauth'ed calls once you are registered (saves on negotiation BW). |
| 15:31.40 | [TK]D-Fender | ^^^^^^ |
| 15:32.03 | [TK]D-Fender | it has no impact on how they send you calls and what you need to match them by, etc |
| 15:32.09 | moe` | why I am I having such a hard time with twilio |
| 15:32.15 | moe` | flowroute was easy |
| 15:32.20 | moe` | skype was braindead to setup |
| 15:32.52 | [TK]D-Fender | Where do we see actual configs, status dumps, attempts, and failures? |
| 15:32.59 | [TK]D-Fender | You ask us this.. and have shown nothing |
| 15:33.01 | moe` | apparently now, just so you know, my issue with skype has been tested with them online and they've gone to tier 2 support |
| 15:33.47 | moe` | in that I cannot create a SIP profile and add credit to it |
| 15:33.53 | moe` | totally nothing asterisk related |
| 15:34.29 | moe` | this is why I want twilio setup, to abandon skype |
| 15:34.38 | moe` | gotta have two SIP providers |
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| 15:38.09 | moe` | ok, can I step thru this |
| 15:38.21 | moe` | SIP URI is to where I register |
| 15:38.47 | moe` | that DNS item exists |
| 15:39.17 | moe` | the IP ACL on twilio is the source IP from where I register, that matches my source IP |
| 15:39.49 | WIMPy | If registrar and proxy differ, you'd need outboundproxy anyway. And in that case it's even more worth it. |
| 15:39.49 | moe` | the credentials list has a friendly name which then contains a list of usernames and password |
| 15:40.16 | moe` | this is just for registry only |
| 15:40.37 | WIMPy | The most obvious use for an URI would be to call it. But maybe it's where to register. |
| 15:41.01 | moe` | well |
| 15:41.17 | moe` | yeah I thought it should be a HTTP call for a URI |
| 15:41.36 | moe` | when I make a unixninja URI it makes a dynamic DNS entry for it though |
| 15:41.43 | moe` | perhaps that's not where I should register |
| 15:41.44 | WIMPy | How do you get to http? |
| 15:41.48 | moe` | I don't |
| 15:41.51 | moe` | sip.con |
| 15:41.53 | moe` | sip.conf |
| 15:42.24 | moe` | ok perhaps we found the problem |
| 15:42.32 | moe` | trying to register to the wrong place |
| 15:42.36 | moe` | silly twilio |
| 15:42.40 | moe` | silly moe |
| 15:43.17 | moe` | somewhere on their site is a list of points I can register to |
| 15:43.22 | moe` | lemme find it |
| 15:48.11 | moe` | man |
| 15:48.17 | moe` | total failure |
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| 15:54.21 | moe` | complete failure |
| 15:56.21 | moe` | dude has anyone here ever setup a twilio SIP connection? |
| 15:56.35 | moe` | it is fucked like six ways from Sunday |
| 16:04.40 | moe` | heh |
| 16:12.54 | moe` | hehman, I just don't see it |
| 16:13.20 | igcewieling1 | perhaps you could try asking people familiar with twillio |
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| 16:16.09 | moe` | wouldn't surprise me now if they blacklisted me |
| 16:16.15 | moe` | so many failures |
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| 16:33.46 | moe` | ok, here we go again, try to create a twilio SIP trunk |
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| 16:36.41 | moe` | network info says UDP/TCP 5060 |
| 16:37.03 | moe` | I have my endpoint, I pick Europe/Ireland |
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| 16:45.53 | moe` | this is going to be the death of me |
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| 16:50.46 | WIMPy | Is that like people starving while playing online games? |
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| 16:55.27 | moe` | my god this is driving me bat shit crazy |
| 16:56.09 | moe` | why is twilio all about URI's? |
| 16:56.41 | WIMPy | The internet is about URIs. |
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| 16:58.16 | moe` | yeah but skype or flowroute SIP is not |
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| 17:04.18 | lvlinux | what is this "skype" thing you speak of? ;-) |
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| 17:05.22 | WIMPy | Thet's the service yu fall back to when you SIP "line" fails again. |
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| 17:06.12 | moe` | I'ma gonna go batshit crazy here |
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| 17:14.48 | moe` | ok fuck twilio |
| 17:14.54 | moe` | looking for a new SIP provider |
| 17:17.00 | saratogga | moe`: you use them for trunking? |
| 17:17.05 | moe` | well yeah |
| 17:17.09 | moe` | asterisk link |
| 17:17.12 | saratogga | moe`: inbound? |
| 17:17.19 | moe` | can't fucking figure twilio |
| 17:17.22 | Nugget | I didn't even know that Twilio offered tht service. I use them for SMS and text-to-speech outbound calling. |
| 17:17.25 | moe` | well yeah I want that |
| 17:17.46 | saratogga | moe`: what's wrong with flowroute? |
| 17:17.51 | moe` | they offer inbound numbers in countries where I want that skype and flowroute don't |
| 17:18.05 | moe` | can't get the bastard to register though |
| 17:18.06 | saratogga | moe`: anveodirect.com have you tried them? |
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| 17:18.18 | saratogga | they get the intl. DIDs from Voxbone |
| 17:18.52 | lvlinux | or how about didlogic? they have numbers from all over. |
| 17:19.03 | saratogga | and media comes directly from Voxbone |
| 17:19.24 | saratogga | hard to beat anveo in this |
| 17:19.34 | saratogga | they have a great relationship with voxbone |
| 17:19.49 | moe` | so I can get DIDs in like holland or bulgaria or malta? |
| 17:20.08 | saratogga | yes |
| 17:20.14 | moe` | also, primary is that its not US based |
| 17:20.15 | saratogga | however Netherlands you will need local address proof |
| 17:20.16 | moe` | :) |
| 17:20.22 | saratogga | look here http://anveodirect.com/prices/did |
| 17:20.24 | moe` | yeah that's common |
| 17:20.51 | saratogga | these are prices that you get with Voxbone directly if you commit to $5K a month minimum spend |
| 17:20.58 | lvlinux | didlogic has Bulgaria, Netherlands, and Malta |
| 17:21.03 | saratogga | did logic are amateurs |
| 17:21.03 | moe` | shit some of those prices kick ass on flowroute |
| 17:21.10 | saratogga | they buy canadian DIDs from ME of all people |
| 17:21.19 | moe` | but flowroute is good stuff, I will keep it, never failed me |
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| 17:21.41 | saratogga | flow route is great and nice people too |
| 17:21.45 | moe` | looking for a Skype replacement where I can get DIDs in bulgaria/malta/australia |
| 17:21.49 | saratogga | but expensiveeeeee |
| 17:21.54 | saratogga | I would never do termination with them |
| 17:21.57 | moe` | yeah but flowroute is good stuff |
| 17:22.03 | saratogga | it's just pretty that's all |
| 17:22.14 | moe` | meh, I do, use the 7 prefix for outbound calls |
| 17:22.15 | moe` | heh |
| 17:22.21 | saratogga | moe`: Anveodirect.com.. don't even bother looking elsewhere |
| 17:22.32 | moe` | yah I'm about to sign up here |
| 17:22.35 | saratogga | you can do all that logic on your end |
| 17:22.51 | lvlinux | saratogga: how are Anveo's per minute rates? |
| 17:22.54 | moe` | well yeah I had 9 for skype outbound and 7 for flowroute |
| 17:22.55 | saratogga | 0.0045 |
| 17:22.58 | saratogga | 0.004 sorry |
| 17:23.03 | saratogga | or you can buy channels |
| 17:23.10 | moe` | inbound DIDs were assigned to a set of local extens, obviously |
| 17:23.13 | saratogga | if you go per-minute they limit you to 10 concurrent channels per DID |
| 17:23.15 | lvlinux | .004 US??? for which country? |
| 17:23.20 | saratogga | ALL |
| 17:23.25 | lvlinux | REALLY???? |
| 17:23.27 | saratogga | 0.004 incoming flat for all countries |
| 17:23.29 | saratogga | yep |
| 17:23.29 | moe` | yeah saratogga ... you got me |
| 17:23.34 | moe` | signing up now |
| 17:23.38 | saratogga | :) |
| 17:23.40 | lvlinux | oh incoming---how about outgoing? |
| 17:23.47 | lvlinux | to US? |
| 17:23.48 | saratogga | I don't use them for intl. term |
| 17:23.50 | saratogga | or US |
| 17:23.57 | saratogga | but it will be cheaper than flowroute |
| 17:23.58 | moe` | and you use it right, so if I struggle with stupid register statements you can help? :) |
| 17:24.00 | saratogga | I do wholesale |
| 17:24.12 | saratogga | yeah I use anveo but only for originatin |
| 17:24.24 | lvlinux | do they have minimum requirements? |
| 17:24.27 | saratogga | nope |
| 17:24.43 | moe` | oooohhh oohhh do they have DIDs for Curacao (Netherlands Antilles?) |
| 17:24.45 | moe` | looks |
| 17:24.46 | lvlinux | burns up the keyboard to check out anveo.com... |
| 17:24.53 | saratogga | oh but now for new customers they make you pay 3-month minimum per DID for new DIDs, then it's on a monthly basis |
| 17:25.38 | saratogga | it's nice because they don't proxy the media |
| 17:25.44 | lvlinux | like flowroute |
| 17:25.47 | saratogga | also US and Candian DIDs are great there |
| 17:25.54 | saratogga | straight from bandwidth on the US side |
| 17:25.58 | saratogga | and I think Iristel for canada |
| 17:27.21 | saratogga | I have an account with Voxbone and I still get the DIDs from anveo haha |
| 17:27.23 | saratogga | much cheaper |
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| 17:29.13 | moe` | anveo is almost giving me a hardon |
| 17:29.15 | moe` | :) |
| 17:32.01 | moe` | heh, is there a way to delete your account? |
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| 17:32.06 | saratogga | where? |
| 17:32.07 | moe` | on anveo |
| 17:32.13 | saratogga | probably why? |
| 17:32.22 | moe` | just cuz I made a stupid on creating it |
| 17:32.28 | moe` | and items I cannot change |
| 17:32.31 | moe` | mostly email address |
| 17:32.43 | saratogga | I'm using it with an email address I don't even have access to |
| 17:32.44 | saratogga | email them |
| 17:32.56 | saratogga | Denis is a good guy he'll take care of it |
| 17:33.12 | saratogga | http://www.anveo.com/contactus.asp |
| 17:33.14 | moe` | meh I'll just make a new account and then let them know to kill the old one |
| 17:33.27 | moe` | I want it now |
| 17:33.28 | saratogga | right |
| 17:33.28 | moe` | :) |
| 17:33.40 | saratogga | can't believe you were doing all this with twilio |
| 17:33.47 | saratogga | I guess there's a market for everything |
| 17:33.48 | saratogga | lol |
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| 17:36.57 | moe` | well I was fucking trying to get the SIP link to twilio |
| 17:37.10 | moe` | already had the flowroute one (will not give that up, its great) |
| 17:37.14 | moe` | the skype one fucked up |
| 17:37.24 | moe` | escalated to tier 2 now on skype support |
| 17:37.29 | moe` | they can't figure it out |
| 17:38.25 | moe` | on account creation for anveo is there a way to get it to resend the verification password? |
| 17:38.32 | lvlinux | moe`: keep your language decent please :-) |
| 17:38.37 | moe` | I forgot to do "newaliases" |
| 17:38.44 | moe` | lvlinux: sorry man |
| 17:38.45 | moe` | will do |
| 17:38.52 | lvlinux | np thanks |
| 17:39.02 | moe` | <-- bad dog |
| 17:39.07 | lvlinux | don't you just love the "newaliases" command.... |
| 17:39.37 | moe` | meh, now blocked on anveo for stupidity |
| 17:39.42 | moe` | that's what I do, eh |
| 17:40.16 | moe` | Nov 5 13:35:37 <mail.info> insomnia sm-mta[58496]: tA5HZa3B058496: --- 050 <anveo@unixninja.net>... Warning: alias database /etc/mail/aliases.db out of date |
| 17:40.16 | moe` | Nov 5 13:35:37 <mail.info> insomnia sm-mta[58496]: tA5HZa3B058496: --- 550 5.1.1 <anveo@unixninja.net>... User unknown |
| 17:40.20 | moe` | figures |
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| 17:41.37 | moe` | saratogga .... what to do if the verification email was lost? |
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| 17:41.47 | moe` | I tried password recovery, no sou |
| 17:41.48 | moe` | I tried password recovery, no soup |
| 17:41.49 | saratogga | moe`: I have no idea.. |
| 17:42.02 | saratogga | moe`: oh forgot to mention they charge you $500 for account setup |
| 17:42.08 | saratogga | just kidding ;) |
| 17:42.10 | moe` | leave it to me to mess things up like this |
| 17:42.13 | moe` | ahha |
| 17:42.13 | saratogga | just call them up |
| 17:42.46 | moe` | I suppose I could use my flowroute SIP to call them |
| 17:42.49 | moe` | heh heh heh |
| 17:42.53 | moe` | funny that |
| 17:43.31 | moe` | ooohhh supports SMS too |
| 17:44.00 | saratogga | yes but no unicode SMS |
| 17:44.16 | saratogga | and only on very few DIDs |
| 17:45.00 | moe` | dude that's a US based number and address |
| 17:45.27 | moe` | sorry, that just broke the deal really |
| 17:45.46 | moe` | well actually |
| 17:45.53 | moe` | flowroute is registered in the US |
| 17:46.00 | moe` | meh, good enough |
| 17:46.01 | moe` | :) |
| 17:46.03 | moe` | I'll go |
| 17:46.45 | saratogga | I sell these DIDs directly to my customers |
| 17:46.52 | saratogga | I just bounce the inbound from anveo through my opensips |
| 17:46.54 | saratogga | haha |
| 17:47.07 | moe` | well that was rude, I call and they say via the IVR you must have a ticket number, goodbye |
| 17:47.13 | saratogga | haha |
| 17:47.20 | saratogga | you get what you pay for type thing with them |
| 17:47.22 | saratogga | oh btw |
| 17:47.31 | saratogga | you pay for support beyond 5 "free" support tickets |
| 17:48.30 | moe` | LOL you pay for tickets |
| 17:48.32 | moe` | I see that now |
| 17:48.42 | moe` | free, $5, or $15 |
| 17:49.02 | moe` | yeah, not so sexy now this service |
| 17:49.08 | moe` | hmmm |
| 17:49.15 | moe` | ponders |
| 17:50.05 | moe` | no this is a hosted PBX service it appears |
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| 17:51.12 | moe` | er, wait |
| 17:51.16 | moe` | beerfactor |
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| 17:58.38 | saratogga | I'll sell you these DIDs for $0.5 surcharge if you want, free support :) |
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| 17:59.25 | moe` | that's not a real SIP trunk from what I see |
| 17:59.30 | saratogga | sure it is |
| 17:59.34 | saratogga | what's missing? |
| 17:59.52 | moe` | yeah so where do I find the termination point and user/pass for the SIP trunk? |
| 18:00.04 | saratogga | are you logged in? |
| 18:00.09 | moe` | yes |
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| 18:00.18 | saratogga | did you sign up at anveodirect.com or anveo.com? |
| 18:00.35 | moe` | well now there's probably a difference |
| 18:00.38 | moe` | anveo |
| 18:00.44 | moe` | I guess anveodirect is SIP |
| 18:00.51 | moe` | anveo is hosted PBX |
| 18:00.55 | saratogga | correct |
| 18:01.05 | saratogga | https://www.anveo.com/account.asp?account_type=direct |
| 18:01.26 | moe` | yeah I see that now |
| 18:01.29 | saratogga | when you're logged in go to https://www.anveo.com/outboundtrunks.asp |
| 18:01.32 | moe` | ok, ok, let me back off a bit |
| 18:01.39 | saratogga | but why do termination with them? |
| 18:01.41 | moe` | I was starting to get annoyed |
| 18:01.51 | saratogga | use Voxbeam for intl. |
| 18:01.54 | moe` | well cuz I want a SIP trunck |
| 18:02.00 | moe` | trunk too |
| 18:02.00 | lnb | have a problem with dialed extesnsion which rings a ringgroup on another pbx via trunk to the pbx being dialed. The cid number on sip phones shows up correctly, but one of the numbers in ring group is a cell phone. cid shows up as 6479960000 |
| 18:02.02 | saratogga | for US termination? |
| 18:02.13 | moe` | well not so much US really |
| 18:02.25 | saratogga | sign up with www.voxbeam.com |
| 18:02.29 | saratogga | how minutes you want to terminate? |
| 18:02.59 | saratogga | wholesale or just personal use? |
| 18:03.00 | moe` | that's still new york |
| 18:03.05 | moe` | voxbeam |
| 18:03.20 | saratogga | why you want intl. company? |
| 18:03.24 | lnb | in other words, the callerid number showing on cell is not the extensions callerid |
| 18:03.29 | moe` | cuz I don't want US |
| 18:03.34 | saratogga | want Canada? |
| 18:03.42 | moe` | have that with flowroute, mostly |
| 18:03.44 | moe` | US/Canada |
| 18:03.49 | saratogga | wait I don't get it |
| 18:03.53 | moe` | try Europe somewhere |
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| 18:03.58 | saratogga | you're looking for a sip trunk to terminate international calls? |
| 18:04.03 | moe` | right |
| 18:04.14 | saratogga | for personal use or commerical/business/ |
| 18:04.14 | moe` | I'm in Curacao, Netherlands Antilles, the Caribbean |
| 18:04.15 | saratogga | ? |
| 18:04.29 | moe` | mostly personal, might grow to business if I can deploy it nicely |
| 18:04.48 | saratogga | hmm |
| 18:04.52 | saratogga | let me think |
| 18:05.00 | saratogga | i don't know any european trunk vendors for personal |
| 18:05.06 | saratogga | i do mostly wholesale stuff |
| 18:05.06 | moe` | yeh I'll be back in a moment |
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| 19:03.47 | cyford | can jabber and google voice be used in realtime instead of config files? |
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| 19:04.35 | rrittgarn | so still working on my logging cdr values after hangup but before the cdr is written in 13 - was sucessful in setting the hangup handler on the device level to trigger on every hangup, however the values are not actually being written to the cdr as evidenced by setting the value, then reading it immediately after. Is this technically a bug that should be submitted, or a 'feature' that i don't yet understand? |
| 19:05.06 | rrittgarn | (this is on asterisk 13.6.0) |
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| 19:08.58 | [red] | anyone ever seen anything like this? |
| 19:09.00 | [red] | http://pastebin.com/ZCs8C5wh |
| 19:09.13 | [red] | asterisk odbc just sends a sql query of "SET 7" |
| 19:09.26 | [red] | then asterisk stops |
| 19:16.06 | file | cyford, no. |
| 19:18.06 | rrittgarn | is this channel still on botbot.me? |
| 19:18.28 | rrittgarn | nvm found the link |
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| 19:25.51 | rrittgarn | just the person i was hoping was on... good afternoon igcewieling1 |
| 19:30.33 | igcewieling1 | hello |
| 19:32.23 | rrittgarn | still having the same issue with my hangup handlers vs h exten - neither saves values that i set in CDR :-( |
| 19:34.22 | igcewieling1 | do you see the handler being executed? |
| 19:34.59 | igcewieling1 | My dialplan design has all calls come into one context so I set the hangup handler there. |
| 19:35.11 | rrittgarn | yep, set it in the sip.conf as a variable and it gets called, dumps the channel (i have DumpChan in there too) and executes my Set(CDR(userid)=###), do a Verbose of (${CDR(userid)}) after and it fails |
| 19:35.24 | rrittgarn | the value is just empty |
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| 19:36.20 | rrittgarn | yeah I got the hangup handler on there - and that is much easier to set up across all the phones vs the h exten (thanks again for that idea), but it doesn't look like i can write to the CDR values from there though |
| 19:37.13 | rrittgarn | so is this a bug that i should report? or is this a 'feature' of how CDR was re-written? Don't get me wrong, i love that its working on calls where it didn't before (specifically AMI redirected calls), but this last piece is causing me grief |
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| 19:39.25 | igcewieling1 | See endbeforehexten in cdr.conf.sample |
| 19:43.10 | rrittgarn | I didn't set that one, so it should be no, shouldn't it? |
| 19:44.42 | igcewieling1 | I don't know. I have it set to yes on my systems, but I since I already know all the required info on Dial, I normally set those CDR values before the Dial. |
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| 19:45.46 | rrittgarn | I guess i could get creative and in the handler update the DB based on the uniqueid... not the cleanest, but it would be in real time (ish) as opposed to fixing it via a cron job or something later |
| 19:48.00 | igcewieling1 | rrittgarn: you are running the _adaptive version of CDR, correct? |
| 19:49.08 | rrittgarn | yes sir |
| 19:49.21 | rrittgarn | it shows the columns when reloaded and if i set the values before hanging up, it saves them. |
| 19:49.28 | rrittgarn | just during the hangup handler or h exten it does not |
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| 19:56.26 | moe` | ooohhh lookit lookit lookit lookit .... |
| 19:56.33 | moe` | I just discovered DISA |
| 19:56.38 | moe` | I have some spare DIDs |
| 19:56.45 | moe` | now what fresh hell is this |
| 19:56.50 | moe` | dangerous, that be be |
| 19:56.56 | moe` | fun, too |
| 19:57.24 | moe` | voicemail access or long distance redirect via landlines in whatever region the number is in |
| 19:57.33 | igcewieling1 | Welcome future member of the My DISA Got Hacked Club! |
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| 19:57.41 | moe` | indeed |
| 19:57.44 | moe` | fun fun |
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| 19:59.21 | moe` | tries it out |
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| 20:01.21 | moe` | exten=>0,1,DISA(no-password,mycontext) |
| 20:01.29 | moe` | that should be most harmless, right? |
| 20:01.36 | moe` | they have to be on a softphone |
| 20:01.57 | moe` | so therefore people I already trust with using SIP trunks |
| 20:02.36 | moe` | I setup 411 as VoiceMailMain() |
| 20:03.09 | moe` | so once I connect DIDs with PINs, people can dial anywhere or dial extensions or dial 411 to get to voicemail |
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| 20:45.46 | rrittgarn | igcewieling1: I tried to set endbeforehexten=yes and then doing an update against it by the uniqueid... only to find that the hangup handler is too fast and the record doesn't exist yet by the time i try to update it |
| 20:45.54 | rrittgarn | so back to the drawing board |
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| 21:07.57 | Phil` | what is the recommended way of getting failover between carriers on an outbound call? |
| 21:08.19 | Phil` | for example, I've tried DIAL(SIP/${EXTEN}@carrier1) followed by DIAL(SIP/${EXTEN}@carrier2) |
| 21:08.31 | Phil` | however the second DIAL() triggers even if no answer from the destination |
| 21:09.07 | Phil` | the carriers are monitored with SIP OPTIONS, if that makes a difference |
| 21:09.42 | Phil` | though, in theory, carrier1 might be responding to the OPTIONS fine but then rejects the call for another reason |
| 21:10.14 | robmal | Check DIALSTATUS |
| 21:12.58 | Phil` | thanks, googling |
| 21:14.38 | WIMPy | DIALSTATUS or better HANGUPCAUSE. |
| 21:14.58 | WIMPy | Even better together with HANGUPLOCATION if it will be invented. |
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| 21:17.03 | robmal | CELs have info which channel hang up. |
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| 21:19.21 | CFX_ | Any recommendations for metrics reporting? |
| 21:19.31 | robmal | zabbix |
| 21:19.58 | drmessano | zabbix? |
| 21:20.15 | robmal | He didn't specify the metrics. |
| 21:20.22 | robmal | Zabbix can has into metrics. |
| 21:20.56 | drmessano | I think he probably wants something related to call statistics |
| 21:21.24 | robmal | Probably yes. |
| 21:21.28 | CFX_ | Sorry yes, advanced call statistics. |
| 21:21.36 | drmessano | QueueMetrics |
| 21:22.52 | CFX_ | Any experience with asternic? |
| 21:23.20 | robmal | Ooooh. Nice. |
| 21:23.36 | Phil` | what's the syntax, if any, for "OR" in an if statement function such as GotoIf()? |
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| 21:23.53 | Phil` | e.g. foo == bar OR baz == bat |
| 21:23.57 | robmal | Just kidding, it looks worse than my excel spreadsheets. |
| 21:24.26 | robmal | Phil`: AFAIK there is only one check. |
| 21:24.38 | robmal | You'll need another gotoif |
| 21:24.43 | Phil` | so just do multiple gotoif under it? |
| 21:24.51 | Phil` | ok ^^ |
| 21:25.15 | moe` | so much fun with DISA, and so much dangerous fun, I like it. |
| 21:25.19 | drmessano | CFX_, worth a shot.. he writes good software |
| 21:25.35 | drmessano | moe`, what is dangerous about a DISA? |
| 21:25.52 | moe` | depends how you use it, mostly |
| 21:26.04 | moe` | I have it assigned to DIDs in several area codes |
| 21:26.22 | drmessano | ok... |
| 21:26.42 | moe` | at least that's my take on it |
| 21:26.49 | drmessano | You still havent explained |
| 21:26.53 | moe` | if someone brute forces the PIN, they're in |
| 21:26.53 | drmessano | You just said "Depends" |
| 21:27.01 | moe` | so as I have it setup |
| 21:27.08 | moe` | they can use any of my SIP trunks |
| 21:27.27 | moe` | and run up a huge cost on the trunks |
| 21:27.29 | drmessano | ok... |
| 21:27.34 | WIMPy | What's the number? |
| 21:27.37 | moe` | ahha |
| 21:27.45 | moe` | no soup for you WIMPy |
| 21:27.53 | moe` | :) |
| 21:27.59 | drmessano | I dont really see how youre using it |
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| 21:28.16 | moe` | well it gets them into the single context I have |
| 21:28.17 | WIMPy | If we all join up, we can find out fast if it's dangerous or not. |
| 21:28.27 | moe` | which is all voicemail, extensions (internal) and SIP trunk access |
| 21:28.36 | drmessano | So you've set it up just so you can say "I have a DISA and it's so Naughty"? |
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| 21:29.07 | moe` | no I set it up so I can give friends and family a local number from where they can call anywhere and check their voicemail |
| 21:29.24 | drmessano | .... |
| 21:29.35 | drmessano | You can use an IVR for that |
| 21:29.49 | moe` | haven't gotten there yet. |
| 21:29.56 | moe` | you know I'm an asterisk grasshopper. |
| 21:30.00 | WIMPy | Where's the difference? |
| 21:30.19 | moe` | WIMPy - that too |
| 21:30.22 | WIMPy | Many make IVRs with WaitExten. That's more or less the same. |
| 21:34.18 | moe` | pretty much given up on twilio SIP |
| 21:34.24 | moe` | flowroute is good |
| 21:34.37 | moe` | just gonna harass skype to fix my account otherwise |
| 21:34.46 | moe` | good enough |
| 21:35.06 | moe` | got lots of credit at skype, so might as well burn it, make 'em fix it, etc. |
| 21:35.15 | moe` | not in any hurry, so yeah, whatever |
| 21:35.30 | saratogga | moe`: how is Anveo going? |
| 21:35.37 | moe` | didn't go there |
| 21:35.42 | saratogga | why? |
| 21:35.42 | drmessano | I got $100 credit once from some ITSP at an Asterisk User Group meeing |
| 21:35.46 | drmessano | meeting |
| 21:35.48 | drmessano | I had no need for it |
| 21:35.52 | drmessano | SO it sat there |
| 21:35.54 | drmessano | and sat there |
| 21:36.03 | drmessano | I bought a UK DID for $1 a month |
| 21:36.20 | drmessano | So in 6 more years I guess I need to check on it |
| 21:36.44 | moe` | will aveodirect be so simple as to say.... SIP user is X, SIP pass is Y, allow connect from a.b.c.d IP ? |
| 21:36.48 | WIMPy | You have to pay for UK? |
| 21:37.01 | drmessano | To get a DID? |
| 21:37.07 | WIMPy | yes |
| 21:37.08 | saratogga | moe`: yep |
| 21:37.10 | drmessano | Well yeah |
| 21:37.14 | WIMPy | And the answer is no. |
| 21:37.16 | drmessano | Why would it be free? |
| 21:37.23 | saratogga | moe`: how many international DIDs do you need? |
| 21:37.26 | WIMPy | Why not? |
| 21:37.31 | drmessano | lol |
| 21:38.31 | drmessano | I have like $50 left |
| 21:38.41 | moe` | well, flowroute covers most of the DIDs I want for Canada |
| 21:38.55 | moe` | I'd like some in Malta, Bulgaria, Australia |
| 21:38.59 | moe` | perhaps Holland |
| 21:39.03 | moe` | maybe UK |
| 21:39.22 | Phil` | didww is pretty decent if you're doing reasonable volumes |
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| 21:39.32 | saratogga | moe`: but flow route is so much more expensive |
| 21:39.32 | Phil` | less so if you're doing small volumes |
| 21:39.45 | moe` | but flowroute is reliable, simple, and it just works |
| 21:39.51 | saratogga | true that |
| 21:39.55 | moe` | lookit now, my skype account crapped out |
| 21:40.07 | saratogga | I get Canadian DIDs for $.25 |
| 21:40.11 | moe` | can't even credit SIP profiles |
| 21:40.19 | moe` | or buy channels |
| 21:40.25 | drmessano | Flowroute is not expensive for what you actually get |
| 21:40.40 | moe` | gone to tier-2 support now for more than 24 hours |
| 21:40.51 | moe` | I quite like flowroute |
| 21:40.51 | drmessano | You can find cheaper, but they require higher volume or the service is terrible |
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| 21:41.25 | moe` | they are always gonna be a SIP link on my asterisk (as long as they continue what they're doing) |
| 21:41.44 | saratogga | moe`: what do you mean by sip link to your asterisk? |
| 21:41.59 | saratogga | it's just a simple sip trunk you can connect whatever you want to it |
| 21:47.54 | CFX_ | Can I use dialplan to check all incoming calls coming in no matter what DID they come in on, and then route from there to the corresponding IVRs based on the DID? |
| 21:49.02 | WIMPy | That's what you usually do. |
| 21:49.30 | WIMPy | Or the dialplan. |
| 21:50.06 | moe` | saratogga : correct. But so far I like flowroute so will maintain a SIP trunk with them. |
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| 21:50.47 | moe` | when skype connect SIP is poor quality/thruput, flowroute works fine |
| 21:50.50 | saratogga | moe`: so the international DIDs are for family members of yours? |
| 21:51.08 | moe` | the international DIDs are friends and work, mostly |
| 21:51.12 | moe` | some family |
| 21:51.16 | moe` | does that really matter? |
| 21:51.30 | saratogga | no just curious |
| 21:51.38 | saratogga | have you ever used Jajah? |
| 21:51.44 | CFX_ | i guess I don't know how to check the # again coming in |
| 21:51.45 | moe` | never heard of it |
| 21:51.58 | saratogga | so basically you're giving your friends & family a local number where they can reach you? |
| 21:52.05 | saratogga | I thought about building this as a stand-alone product once |
| 21:52.41 | WIMPy | CFX_: It will match some extension in your dialplan. And if that was a wildcard, you can check ${EXTEN} for what it is exactely. |
| 21:52.49 | moe` | yeah mostly, local numbers for people to have their own access via DISA (woohoo!) to the asterisk system, and also a DID for their own personal use |
| 21:53.09 | moe` | friends, family, work |
| 21:53.10 | saratogga | so they can make outbound calls from their DIDs? |
| 21:53.24 | moe` | meh, not necessarily, just via the trunk |
| 21:53.32 | moe` | caller ID not important - yet |
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| 21:53.41 | moe` | but it will be |
| 21:53.42 | saratogga | why do your friends need access to asterisk? |
| 21:53.52 | moe` | cuz that's how we talk |
| 21:54.00 | moe` | my friends are not all on my island |
| 21:54.07 | moe` | they're all over the place |
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| 21:54.34 | saratogga | interesting, i talk to my friends once a year via a phone, the rest is facebook/whatsapp |
| 21:54.38 | saratogga | you have special friends my man |
| 21:55.36 | robmal | Wait, what? You own an island? |
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| 21:56.07 | WIMPy | cool |
| 21:57.43 | CFX_ | WIMPy: I see how to pass it to another extension but not to check what DID it comes in on after the gotoiftime |
| 21:58.22 | robmal | There's a wiki page about variables. |
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| 21:58.28 | robmal | It's long. |
| 21:58.29 | WIMPy | Just Goto wherever you want. |
| 21:58.35 | robmal | Longer than [TK]D-Fender's trunk. |
| 21:59.06 | saratogga | I'm always curious to hear why people still use asterisk when freeswitch is right there available to them. I guess old habitS? |
| 21:59.57 | robmal | saratogga: It's about control. Also $$$ |
| 22:00.00 | WIMPy | Can Freeswitch interface to PSTN tech by now? |
| 22:00.08 | moe` | ahha |
| 22:00.19 | moe` | "my" island is Curacao, yeah |
| 22:00.22 | moe` | it's ALL mine |
| 22:00.26 | moe` | snickers |
| 22:00.36 | WIMPy | Are you blue? |
| 22:00.41 | WIMPy | Like a ... smurf? |
| 22:00.52 | saratogga | robmal, plenty of control with fs, and it's free, so not really sure what you're referring to |
| 22:00.54 | robmal | I have established some time ago your tap water isn't blue. Everything is a lie. Not only the cake. |
| 22:01.04 | moe` | saratogga: mostly I don't care so much for the best price connection, I just want something that works when I want it to work |
| 22:01.23 | moe` | saratogga: I run FreeBSD for my OS, so that should tell you something right there. :) |
| 22:01.27 | moe` | grins stupidly |
| 22:01.37 | saratogga | moe`: so use Nexmo and forward inbound calls to a SIP address |
| 22:01.52 | robmal | saratogga: Just as i don't understand your question. Your asking why Toyota is better than Ford ;-) |
| 22:01.59 | saratogga | :) |
| 22:02.27 | moe` | no, I use flowroute DIDs, and I used to use skype DIDs... but now I'm seeing skype is crap, mostly. |
| 22:02.27 | saratogga | moe`: |
| 22:02.39 | saratogga | moe`: have you looked at using Nexmo? |
| 22:03.33 | robmal | Oooh, nice graphs. |
| 22:03.52 | robmal | Ooooh, vXML which noone uses. |
| 22:04.23 | moe` | never heard of it |
| 22:04.24 | saratogga | robmal: rest api as well |
| 22:04.41 | moe` | MRTG graphs my stuff for the most part. |
| 22:04.50 | saratogga | moe`: you can redirect any inbound traffic into a Nexmo DID to your SIP address |
| 22:04.55 | moe` | supposing I make "plugins" for it myself |
| 22:04.58 | robmal | Well, API is always nice, but i don't think nexmo has anything to offer worth the struggle. |
| 22:05.15 | moe` | check unixninja.net, there's a bunch of graphs there that are not "normal" MRTG |
| 22:06.06 | saratogga | https://docs.nexmo.com/api-ref/voice-api/configuring-sip |
| 22:06.27 | saratogga | https://docs.nexmo.com/api-ref/voice-api/configuring-sip/inbound-configuration |
| 22:06.44 | saratogga | oh look they have asterisk config for you all ready for a copy/paste |
| 22:07.56 | saratogga | k cya folks later |
| 22:08.04 | saratogga | moe`: Nexmo is what you want, check it out :) |
| 22:08.33 | robmal | http://x3.cdn03.imgwykop.pl/c3201142/comment_eUIkagNttyMAxf6chywLcwArRL1IRhWs.gif |
| 22:12.17 | WIMPy | Is there some documentation on channelstates somewhere? What is OFFHOOK vs. DIALING_OFFHOOK vs. DIALING? And what is PRERING? |
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| 22:12.49 | Tagor | Is it possible to use a var if/else within the Playback function? |
| 22:13.10 | WIMPy | 'core show function IF' |
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| 22:18.50 | robmal | WIMPy: http://doxygen.asterisk.org/trunk/channelstate_8h.html ? |
| 22:20.05 | WIMPy | Ok, it kind of explains PRERING, but not the others. |
| 22:20.31 | WIMPy | Although I'm not sure when/how PRERING would occur. |
| 22:20.48 | robmal | Just before RING |
| 22:20.58 | robmal | RINGING is when the other end of the channel is doing RING |
| 22:21.14 | robmal | DIALING is when you pushed some digits while OFFHOOK |
| 22:21.29 | robmal | while not* |
| 22:21.53 | WIMPy | How would that be possible? |
| 22:22.06 | robmal | Loudspeaker? |
| 22:22.41 | WIMPy | Is there any channel where Asterisk would know if you used the handset or speakerphone? |
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| 22:23.26 | rrittgarn | you could specify for a sip phone to answer it in that fashion, but on the originating side, i'm not aware of one |
| 22:23.26 | robmal | I don't know why it shoud care anyway, but i don't think so. |
| 22:24.06 | rrittgarn | configuration would be required on the phone to accept the auto-answer/style of sip notification. I know aastra phones can do XML requests based on physical state of the phone too |
| 22:24.07 | WIMPy | Neither do I. That's why I wonder when these states would be used. |
| 22:24.18 | rrittgarn | legacy with DAHDI stuff? |
| 22:24.41 | rrittgarn | sorry for the out of context replies, didn't read the whole background before replying |
| 22:24.55 | WIMPy | There's no way to know and no way it could know about dialling without going off-hook. |
| 22:25.38 | WIMPy | I'm jsut trying to make sense of the possibel values to use them for status display. |
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