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| 02:54.59 | monsterco | what does "apt-get install asterisk" give me? version wise |
| 02:55.08 | lvlinux | monsterco: trash |
| 02:55.20 | monsterco | you mean best to install from source? |
| 02:55.34 | lvlinux | lol usually you'll get a severly outdated version using a package |
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| 02:56.10 | lvlinux | yes from source is best |
| 02:57.04 | lvlinux | usually with Debian I think you get 1.8. Maybe v 11 with Ubuntu. |
| 02:57.12 | lvlinux | Current is v 13.9.1 |
| 02:57.47 | monsterco | why is that? i mean why is this a business reason or has a good technical reason? |
| 02:58.01 | lvlinux | why is what? |
| 02:58.32 | lvlinux | u mean that packages aren't maintained? |
| 03:03.27 | gruetzkopf | mostly it's distribution policy |
| 03:04.02 | lvlinux | and when maintaining packages, you can't keep everyone happy. |
| 03:04.09 | gruetzkopf | debian doesn't like breaking changes in packages in one release, this leads to slow updates as you only get big updates every 2 years |
| 03:04.28 | gruetzkopf | they mostly keep updates to security patches within a release |
| 03:05.05 | lvlinux | And there has to be someone to maintain the package.... |
| 03:10.20 | monsterco | I see |
| 03:10.27 | monsterco | how do much smaller packages maintain this? |
| 03:10.40 | monsterco | and how about other distros? same reason? |
| 03:12.19 | lvlinux | The reasons vary, and anyone could volunteer to keep any package up to date in any distro. |
| 03:13.26 | monsterco | thanks for the explanation |
| 03:13.35 | lvlinux | With LTS distros, usually there are feature and compatibility limitations, but any bleeding edge distro probably would be happy to have someone maintain Asterisk packages. |
| 03:13.36 | monsterco | why is this missing? contrib/scripts/get_mp3_source.sh |
| 03:13.54 | lvlinux | mp3 has licensining stuff going on |
| 03:14.30 | lvlinux | So it can't really be distributed with Asterisk without risk from the patent trolls. |
| 03:14.36 | monsterco | so it's been removed from 13.9? |
| 03:14.43 | monsterco | holy moly |
| 03:14.46 | lvlinux | it hasn't been removed, it was never there. |
| 03:14.50 | monsterco | but it was there for quiet a while right? |
| 03:14.54 | monsterco | ah i see |
| 03:15.04 | monsterco | where can i get it though? if i want to assume licensing issues |
| 03:15.21 | lvlinux | run the script and it get's it :) |
| 03:16.50 | lvlinux | as far as I know, mp3 has never been distributed directly with Asterisk. |
| 03:16.58 | monsterco | # contrib/scripts/get_mp3_source.sh |
| 03:16.58 | monsterco | contrib/scripts/get_mp3_source.sh: 12: contrib/scripts/get_mp3_source.sh: svn: not found |
| 03:17.26 | lvlinux | that's telling you that svn isn't installed on your system. (The script uses svn to get the mp3 sources) |
| 03:17.32 | lvlinux | apt-get install svn |
| 03:17.44 | lvlinux | or is it apt-get install subversion |
| 03:17.53 | monsterco | thanks |
| 03:18.29 | lvlinux | before you do mp3, you should do contrib/scripts/install_prereq |
| 03:20.49 | monsterco | ops |
| 03:20.52 | monsterco | i didn't do that |
| 03:20.58 | monsterco | but i do see mp3 in make menu select now |
| 03:21.03 | monsterco | should I stop and go back? |
| 03:21.19 | monsterco | nvm |
| 03:21.22 | monsterco | i did that like this: |
| 03:21.22 | lvlinux | yeah, it will make sure you aren't missing other stuff |
| 03:21.22 | monsterco | contrib/scripts/install_prereq install |
| 03:21.26 | lvlinux | yes |
| 03:21.52 | monsterco | what are the embed_addons? |
| 03:22.07 | monsterco | I want to have pretty much all asterisk features to test.... |
| 03:23.04 | lvlinux | By default it has just about all. Do you need hardware line card support? |
| 03:23.21 | monsterco | nope |
| 03:23.29 | monsterco | i am not installing dahdi either |
| 03:23.36 | monsterco | embed_addons are for line cards? |
| 03:23.49 | lvlinux | no dahdi and libpri. |
| 03:23.53 | monsterco | and how about compiler flags? |
| 03:23.55 | lvlinux | Don't know what embed_addons are |
| 03:23.58 | lvlinux | don't touch them |
| 03:24.29 | monsterco | k |
| 03:24.34 | monsterco | and extended utilities? |
| 03:24.42 | monsterco | aelparse, astman, etc... |
| 03:24.52 | lvlinux | don't need them---obscure stuff |
| 03:25.10 | lvlinux | most things if they aren't checked, and you don't know what they are, you won't use them. |
| 03:25.30 | lvlinux | How about spandsp? Did you install it? You want it if you want to mess with T.38 and faxing. |
| 03:26.10 | monsterco | i don't see it |
| 03:26.17 | monsterco | what menu is that under? |
| 03:26.19 | monsterco | i can be using it |
| 03:26.38 | lvlinux | spandsp is a separate project that compiles separately |
| 03:26.51 | lvlinux | after you have it you can compile res_fax in Asterisk |
| 03:27.35 | monsterco | so that is done after asterisk is fully installed? |
| 03:28.10 | lvlinux | nope, right now beforehand |
| 03:30.00 | monsterco | I can download the package from asterisk.org? |
| 03:30.05 | lvlinux | you can do it afterward but you'll have to recompile Asterisk |
| 03:30.16 | lvlinux | no i can't remember the link to get it but it's easy to find on Google |
| 03:30.40 | monsterco | http://www.soft-switch.org/downloads/spandsp/ |
| 03:31.05 | lvlinux | yeah that's it |
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| 03:32.20 | lvlinux | and you configured Asterisk with pjsip right? |
| 03:32.35 | lvlinux | ./configure --with-pjproject-bundled |
| 03:33.52 | lvlinux | (If you want all the features then pjsip is MAJOR) |
| 03:34.45 | monsterco | yes i did that |
| 03:35.00 | monsterco | i am doing: ./configure make make install for spandsp now |
| 03:35.18 | monsterco | and then doing make menuselect again to see if spandsp shows up |
| 03:35.43 | lvlinux | i think u have to re-run the asterisk configure for it to be detected |
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| 03:37.06 | monsterco | contrib/scripts/install_prereq install as well? |
| 03:37.38 | lvlinux | no |
| 03:38.05 | lvlinux | the prereq just installs packages you need. if you've done it once, they're installed. |
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| 03:40.56 | monsterco | showed up under resources module |
| 03:41.41 | lvlinux | yes |
| 03:43.17 | monsterco | spandsp* |
| 03:43.24 | monsterco | and also some res_fax.... |
| 03:43.51 | lvlinux | yup |
| 03:45.17 | monsterco | I am running this on a virtual machine container (ubuntu LTS) - anything else i have to do? |
| 03:45.51 | lvlinux | make config and make samples will make init scripts for you and sample configs |
| 03:46.15 | lvlinux | The sample configs are great documentation and WILL help you with configuration. |
| 03:46.24 | lvlinux | you've read the Asterisk book right? |
| 03:46.33 | lvlinux | It's free so get it: |
| 03:46.36 | lvlinux | ~book |
| 03:46.39 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
| 03:47.38 | lvlinux | doesn't cover pjsip, but it does cover your dialplan basics and a bunch of other stuff. |
| 03:48.28 | lvlinux | If your ubuntu version uses systemd then you'll have to make a startup service file for it --- just lookup "asterisk.service systemd" |
| 03:49.11 | lvlinux | then jump into your config starting with asterisk.conf :) |
| 03:51.13 | lvlinux | gtg |
| 03:51.20 | lvlinux | good luck and have fun :) |
| 03:52.53 | monsterco | thanks - you too |
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| 06:41.32 | monsterco | what is the difference between SIP and PJSIP? Asterisk 1.8 and 13 essentialy |
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| 06:54.35 | ChannelZ | SIP (chan_sip) is the original asterisk SIP stack, and has become difficult to maintain or add sweeping new features to over the years. PJSIP is a 3rd-party written/maintained SIP stack which has lots of the things we needed |
| 06:57.10 | ChannelZ | so rather than rewriting their own SIP stack from scratch, they decided to just integrate the PJSIP project as a new channel driver |
| 06:58.48 | monsterco | cool |
| 06:59.13 | monsterco | ChannelZ - so what is the equivalant of sip show peers for pjsip and how to turn on debug? |
| 06:59.32 | monsterco | Also, do current phone sets support pjsip or pjsip is backwards compatible with sip phones? |
| 06:59.59 | ChannelZ | pjsip set logger on |
| 07:00.29 | ChannelZ | pjsip show aors |
| 07:00.35 | ChannelZ | (roughly) |
| 07:00.53 | ChannelZ | help pjsip for everything |
| 07:02.03 | ChannelZ | And SIP is SIP, it's a standard protocol. PJSIP is just the name of the software project and the asterisk channel driver to differentiate it from chan_sip |
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| 07:02.57 | monsterco | so if the end point supports pjsip it will be better? or this has nothing to do with pjsip and pjsip is an Asterisk internal thing and it is recommended to create all pjsip extensions instead of sip going forward? |
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| 07:03.32 | monsterco | also, then i am assuming pjsip is working on port 5060 since it is sip end of the day...?! |
| 07:04.44 | monsterco | Channel ^^^ |
| 07:04.50 | monsterco | ChannelZ ^^^ |
| 07:05.02 | ChannelZ | Again, consider pjsip is just the name of a thing in asterisk that speaks SIP. The endpoints speak SIP. Whether you use the old channel driver (chan_sip) or the new one (pjsip) is just up to you |
| 07:05.45 | ChannelZ | I assume one day chan_sip will be deprecated (I don't know if it's on a roadmap somewhere or not) but it continues to work just fine. I still use it at work where I'm not needing any of the features it lacks over pjsip |
| 07:07.01 | ChannelZ | And yes it works on 5060, or any port you want to make it listen to (which is one limitation of chan_sip, it had an 'all or nothing' approach to binding to interfaces, whereas PJSIP will let you listen to multiple/different ports on selective interfaces) |
| 07:10.05 | monsterco | ah that is cool |
| 07:10.21 | monsterco | ChannelZ - but RTP is still dealth with separate UDP ports - correct? |
| 07:10.28 | ChannelZ | you can actually use chan_sip and chan_pjsip at the same time so long as they are separated network-wise (IE they can't both bind to the same port on the same interface) |
| 07:10.57 | ChannelZ | Yes, SIP is just a call control protocol. Coice is still RTP |
| 07:11.10 | ChannelZ | s/Coice/Voice/ |
| 07:18.03 | monsterco | cool tnx |
| 07:20.05 | monsterco | pjsip and sip run on TCP or need UDP as well? i.e. 5060 TCP/UDP or just one? |
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| 07:42.50 | TandyUK | SIP generally is UDP |
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| 09:08.35 | xochilpili | hi all |
| 09:08.50 | xochilpili | is there a way to overwrite src cdr in dialplan ? |
| 09:09.41 | xochilpili | i just want to add another value in the cdr table in the src field, can i do that? |
| 09:16.00 | robmal | Not in the src field but you can add another column and use adaptive cdr, then you can set it anyway you want from the dialplan. |
| 09:33.38 | xochilpili | robmal, do you have any sample on this, im using adaptive cdr |
| 09:36.05 | xochilpili | let me know if i understand correctly; if i add a new column, lets say "new_src" in the cdr table, i can set(cdr(new_src)=${CALLERID(num)}) << for example? |
| 09:37.40 | robmal | Yes, just reload the adaptive cdr module first. |
| 09:38.05 | xochilpili | robmal, thanks! |
| 09:39.45 | xochilpili | robmal, i have another question; for example, i have declared 2 extensions, a trunk and an outbound route, then, when i use the outbound route from one of those extensions, the call is working, but when i call from one extension to another, then doesnt work |
| 09:40.18 | xochilpili | on Cli said: Called 101 but is not dialing |
| 09:40.28 | robmal | I'd guess they're not in the same context. |
| 09:41.02 | xochilpili | but in the other hand, when i call to any other real-world number (my home) then i receive the call, i just dont have one side audio |
| 09:41.13 | xochilpili | robmal, they are both in the same context |
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| 10:57.53 | xochilpili | robmal, are you there? |
| 10:58.46 | xochilpili | i have added a new column in cdr table, then in dialplan i have added Set(CDR(new_column)=${CALLERID(num)}), but i got an error while cdr is trying to insert into dbase |
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| 13:15.04 | nickgaw | Hi, In centos-7.2-x64 is there any rpm or yum repositories for asterisk 13 and dahdi and other components as currently no asterisk packages are listted in yum install? |
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| 13:29.27 | nickgaw | In centos 7.2 it looks like /usr/local is used as well as /usr so where if I have to install asterisk and other components from source should I put the installed components? |
| 13:30.53 | scv | that's pretty much personal preference |
| 13:31.03 | scv | since it can all be reconfigured |
| 13:32.41 | nickgaw | Where can I locate asterisk rpms of version 13? |
| 13:33.22 | scv | i build my own rpms for personal usage, not sure if any repos have them packaged |
| 13:33.36 | scv | rpmforge probably does though |
| 13:33.38 | scv | have you checked? |
| 13:33.51 | nickgaw | How do you go about building the rpms without first installing the package? |
| 13:34.02 | scv | ?? |
| 13:34.31 | nickgaw | In order to build the rpm package of asterisk would I first need to run make install on te source? |
| 13:34.44 | scv | you'd make a spec file with the instructions on building it from source |
| 13:35.09 | nickgaw | Then does that file generate the binary package? |
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| 13:35.53 | scv | yes, that's the cleanest way to handle it |
| 13:36.28 | nickgaw | Do yourself do asterisk work or help others with their systems? |
| 13:36.29 | scv | it's a lot of work for a single machine though so if you don't plan on actually using it repeatedly it may be a time sink |
| 13:39.24 | nickgaw | I do plan on using it very soon I just like to do everything packagebased if possible where are there good directions on making the rpm spec files? |
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| 13:41.36 | scv | nickgaw: here's a sample spec for asterisk13 from opensuse. should not be too hard to adapt it to your own usage |
| 13:41.39 | scv | https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/home:casasfernando/asterisk13/asterisk13.spec?expand=1 |
| 13:43.59 | nickgaw | So opensuse has asterisk packages prebuilt for rpm? |
| 13:44.18 | scv | not sure, that was just the first search result for "asterisk13 spec" |
| 13:45.53 | nickgaw | scv do you ever help out others by email or do you ever work on others asterisk systems or do you mainly use it personally? |
| 13:46.59 | scv | it's my day job |
| 13:47.16 | scv | to work on asterisk |
| 13:47.19 | scv | i sometimes help out on irc |
| 13:49.16 | nickgaw | In general what would you charge to help users out on their own systems like if I wanted to have it setup and working as I am totally blind and that asterisk book is helpful but there is a lot in it that is tricky to read with screen readers? Once I know what I am doing I could do most of the administration on my own. |
| 13:49.28 | scv | i don't do paid support, sorry |
| 13:49.45 | scv | there are a lot of really good guides on building and installing asterisk though |
| 13:49.54 | scv | i'm sure a bit of googling will get you set in the right direction |
| 13:50.07 | nickgaw | you are saying other then the book? |
| 13:50.48 | scv | i've never looked at the book so i dont know what it covers, but as it's a book presumably it's not completely up to date |
| 13:50.51 | scv | not sure how old it is |
| 13:51.28 | nickgaw | It covers asterisk version 11. |
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| 15:42.07 | lvlinux | nickgaw: I wouldn't worry about a package for v13 -- I'm not aware of any. I would just install from source. It's not difficult |
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| 15:44.20 | emilio507 | Hey guys. I was wondering if there is anyone here that can offer a bit of insight on how to apply patches to asterisk 11 installed from source? |
| 15:44.51 | lvlinux | emilio507: the best thing is just reinstall the latest v11 over your current. Shouldnt' break anything. |
| 15:45.08 | lvlinux | Unless you have a patch that isn't included in the main source?? |
| 15:45.36 | emilio507 | lmlinux: No it is included in the main source. |
| 15:45.46 | emilio507 | I just did not realie it was that simple. |
| 15:45.51 | lvlinux | Yup |
| 15:46.03 | emilio507 | Do I need to remove any files prior to the new install? |
| 15:46.12 | lvlinux | nope. It won't stop your running Asterisk either. |
| 15:46.31 | lvlinux | Course you have to restart it to get the updated one, but it won't kill anything doing a "make install" with Asterisk running. |
| 15:46.46 | emilio507 | Awesome. Thank you. You made my life a lot easier. |
| 15:46.49 | lvlinux | :-) |
| 15:47.04 | emilio507 | Yea I do realize it is going to take a restart but that is why I am working on a saturday. :( |
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| 16:56.45 | nickgaw | I could only find rpms for version 6 of centos on packages.asterisk.org how could I write them about adding packages for version 7.2? |
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| 17:00.43 | lvlinux | nickgaw: I just sent you an email. I wouldn't mess with packages. It will probably be more trouble than it's worth. |
| 17:02.16 | lvlinux | nickgaw: the latest version they have there for Centos is 13.1. Current is 13.9.1 |
| 17:03.26 | lvlinux | There isn't much interest in packaging since source is the official and recommended method of installation. (And keeping packages up to date for all the most used distros is a lot of work.) |
| 17:05.11 | nickgaw | I just got your email and am using wget now. Once I have the sources could I build a rpm package or as this system is going to be used mainly for asterisk is that the best method just having asterisk installed from source? |
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| 17:25.32 | lvlinux | nickgaw: just use the source. |
| 17:25.43 | lvlinux | having an RPM is unnecessary |
| 17:26.52 | lvlinux | The only reason for RPMs is ease of installation and upgrades. But since you'd have to build your own RPM, after compiling, and every upgrade would require doing it again, it's just extra work for no benefit (unless you had a bunch of Asterisk systems to upgrade, then it might make sense.) |
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| 17:39.41 | nickgaw | Why run make samples before make config? |
| 17:41.31 | Samot | nickgaw: It's pretty much optional to run that. It just makes sample configs. |
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| 17:42.25 | nickgaw | What does make config do different then make samples? |
| 17:43.43 | Samot | It makes the actual configs. |
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| 19:32.30 | monsterco | while trying to simulate ARI I get this: error: Error: unexpected server response (404) |
| 19:32.38 | monsterco | where can I look for issues? any debugs? or logs? |
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| 20:48.05 | monsterco | I understand that I can use ARI to originate calls and handle them. But is ARI powerful enough to pull data from existing channels? (i.e. originated by dialplan)? |
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| 20:53.21 | oDesk | If i have queue and i want to transfer the caller to 'feedback' menu when the callee hangup the call what is the correct way to do it |
| 20:53.30 | oDesk | I am using asterisk 13.6 |
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| 21:19.29 | monsterco | How is Certified Asterisk 13 different from Asterisk 13? |
| 21:20.10 | ChannelZ | IIRC it's mainly for Digium phones |
| 21:20.44 | WIMPy | You can buy suport for it. |
| 21:22.03 | ChannelZ | And it's less "feature tumoltuous" - IE they release fewer versions of it with an eye on stability |
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| 21:33.04 | monsterco | ChannelZ - thanks for the clarification |
| 21:33.25 | monsterco | Is there a way that I can setup ARI to listen to all events? or that is only possible through AMI? |
| 21:38.12 | oDesk | monsterco: ARI is request/response but AMI can listen |
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| 21:47.03 | monsterco | oDesk - hmmm...I am disappointed |
| 21:47.59 | monsterco | oDesk - Is the obstacle not knowing the channel ID for example? or it's not possible to interject into a call unless Stasis is used? |
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