| 00:00.47 | adonaros | Anyone around? I want to have a little discussion and maybe be offered some guidance. Trust me, im not going to ask for help about conf files or dialplans et al |
| 00:01.04 | adonaros | I more so, want someones opinion.. |
| 00:02.49 | adonaros | I run a few pbx on vmware esxi, for almost a year now, i have run just vanilla asterisk package 11 on debian. I use it to switch calls between flowroute and my customers atas. No voicemail, no sql integration. nothing crazy |
| 00:04.45 | adonaros | I liked the gui tool of freepbx and was very happy with freepbx, but the stability/dependability was.. very low. Shit gets hacked all the time, it decides to do autoupdate and breaks itself, once, i had a problem where the adtran would send an answer, and the line just kept ringing! something in the sip stack was.. meh. Generally, not "mission critial" IMHO |
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| 00:13.33 | adeel | adonaros: i've run both flavors (vanilla asterisk and freepbx installs)....for the latter, just disable the auto-update crap and you're fine |
| 00:14.37 | adonaros | Now, i am getting more customers, and this rocksolid asterisk system is starting to become "difficult" for me to keep clean becuase users are now starting to ask for voicemail, et al, and i like being able to have my own peer names/device names, instead of just the numbers freepbx supports (which i know i can do devices & extensions mode) |
| 00:15.03 | adonaros | so yeah, im looking for some advice, should i start building macros and start cleaning, or .. |
| 00:15.07 | adonaros | adeel: you made a good point |
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| 00:15.19 | adonaros | sad part is, i cant find that place. would you mind reccomending to me what you run? |
| 00:15.34 | adeel | adonaros: if you don't have a full plan for handling this kind of stuff going forward, then you're going to be stuck in support hell |
| 00:16.22 | adeel | adonaros: depends upon what version of freepbx you're running....but it's normally in the general/advanced settings, and check your system cron settings |
| 00:16.32 | adonaros | well, i dont need tech support, i know how to troubleshoot this kind of stuff. only reason why i have one of these things is to get better call quality to my customers. |
| 00:16.54 | adonaros | adeel: what freepbx do you run? which would you consider "most stable"? |
| 00:17.03 | adeel | adonaros: i run a pretty old version |
| 00:17.10 | adeel | adonaros: but i don't put customers on there |
| 00:17.34 | adonaros | aah. where do you put your cx? |
| 00:17.36 | adeel | all of my customers are on my asterisk 11 install which i maintain the dialplan |
| 00:17.42 | adonaros | yeap. same here. |
| 00:18.06 | adeel | i use different contexts to manage them all, and just include the other relevant bit for those who want it |
| 00:18.27 | adonaros | do you have voicemail for your customers? do you use the asterisk "features" (like ## to transfer) ? |
| 00:18.57 | adeel | you want voicemail, then it's just a simple include => context/macro |
| 00:19.18 | adonaros | yeah, but you had to write that context/macro |
| 00:19.24 | adeel | adonaros: yep, for those who request it....pretty easy to maintain |
| 00:19.29 | adonaros | so you took the time. |
| 00:19.47 | adonaros | cool. thanks for confirming my suspicion. i too should just write the contaxt/macros and go. |
| 00:19.53 | adeel | adonaros: yes, i write all my contexts/macro's....i might borrow some basic dialplan logic from freepbx, but i hand write my own stuff |
| 00:21.11 | adeel | adonaros: i follow a more OO approach for my dialplans, so my macro's and contexts will take arguments and return arg's, so i can keep it pretty clean |
| 00:21.16 | adonaros | do you do any "enhanced" pbx stuff? call parking, blf hint, shared call/bridged call? |
| 00:21.33 | adonaros | im sorry, what does "OO" mean? |
| 00:21.45 | adeel | adonaros: if it's natively supported in asterisk, i've got no problems offering it....shared call is annoying useless, imo |
| 00:21.49 | adeel | OO = object oriented |
| 00:22.08 | adonaros | got it. |
| 00:22.12 | adeel | call parking is a very common request, so that's something that's pretty easy to offer |
| 00:22.23 | adeel | blf hinting, yep, need to do it |
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| 00:22.51 | adeel | the latest version of asterisk & freepbx provide a pretty simple base on blf/parking to see how it's done....Polycom also has a nice little doc on asterisk & blf |
| 00:23.16 | adonaros | Cool. i will crack open my favourite 'asterisk hacking' book and start refreshing myself on making macros and priorities et al |
| 00:23.35 | adonaros | i havnt needed it in...well.. forever, all the entires in my dialplan look like.. |
| 00:23.54 | adonaros | exten => 7736964545,1,Dial(SIP/sonyx3) |
| 00:24.01 | adonaros | and that's it for example. |
| 00:24.19 | adonaros | i have disabled all the other extra crap and have been _100_%. |
| 00:24.54 | adonaros | adeel: thank you for your time. |
| 00:25.11 | adeel | adonaros: i'd recommend you look up the 'same =>' syntax |
| 00:25.14 | adeel | will save you some headaches |
| 00:25.55 | adeel | adonaros: for example, http://pasted.co/64f433aa |
| 00:26.57 | adonaros | oh wow. |
| 00:27.10 | adonaros | (not the same=>) comment, the set array stuff |
| 00:27.22 | adeel | easy way to set multiple variables at once |
| 00:28.06 | adeel | you'll need to figure out a line for yourself on how "optimized" you want your dialplan....typically, the more optimized, the harder it is for someone else (or even you) to debug/fix |
| 00:29.00 | adonaros | lol yeah. im going to keep it "simple". just a macro to strip +1 from inbound CID |
| 00:29.07 | adonaros | and a macro to "hunt" channels. |
| 00:29.18 | adeel | how's your regex foo? |
| 00:29.29 | adonaros | dont even know what that means/is. |
| 00:29.41 | adonaros | ooh |
| 00:29.47 | adonaros | regular expresion "kung foo" |
| 00:29.49 | adonaros | pretty good |
| 00:29.50 | adeel | yep |
| 00:30.46 | adeel | i use a lot of EXECIF/GOTOIF combined with Regex's to do stuff |
| 00:31.59 | adonaros | only thing "challenging" for me will be to make a sql thing to store CNAM |
| 00:32.03 | adonaros | so i dont have to pay for lookups |
| 00:32.13 | adonaros | currently i pay 20$/mo in BS lookups |
| 00:32.34 | adeel | adonaros: depending upon your volume, there's a google database you can use for free |
| 00:33.31 | adonaros | oh yeah? mmmm... i think for future and sanity, i should just write my own script/thing and just dip to opencnam when i need a result |
| 00:35.46 | adeel | yeah, you can use agi calls at that point when things become too complex for dialplan |
| 00:38.30 | adonaros | well, im gonna crack open the book and start reading and writing again. |
| 00:38.49 | adonaros | thanks. i was serisouly googling looking for alternatives that i could use |
| 00:38.57 | adonaros | i remember trixbox was very stable |
| 00:40.55 | adonaros | but yeah. im gonna do what you do. |
| 00:48.51 | adeel | np |
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| 07:30.40 | igcewieling1 | "How tough can writing a terminal emulator be?", I asked myself. 2 weeks ago. still working on it. |
| 07:59.26 | [TK]D-Fender | I wrote one as part of a telecom package back while I was in high-school. |
| 07:59.46 | [TK]D-Fender | I coded ANSI & Avatar+ in Turbo Pascal 7 |
| 08:00.08 | [TK]D-Fender | About 25 years ago :) |
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| 08:36.11 | igcewieling1 | I wanted something to integrate into our internal GUI. Would be nice to be able to open an ssh session with a single click while the peer config page is open. |
| 08:37.26 | igcewieling1 | [TK]D-Fender: do you recall if you used a double buffer to improve update speeds? |
| 08:37.55 | [TK]D-Fender | PC's were faster than modems back then :) |
| 08:38.18 | [TK]D-Fender | optimisation was of no consequence and I'm a brute-force programmer :) |
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| 18:18.41 | _abc_ | These phones are not supported by * right? Looks like a horrible windows only phone? http://www.lync.expert/2014/07/configuring-hp-4120-ip-phone-for-lync/ -- found them cheap in my country, pretty sure there is a good reason for that. |
| 18:20.35 | _abc_ | http://forums.asterisk.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=79672 okay last to next msg explains the way it was. And it got worse. |
| 18:20.40 | _abc_ | No more questions, thanks. |
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