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| 01:01.47 | UncleKiwi | drmessano: no |
| 01:02.09 | UncleKiwi | I just rebooted the phone started the app |
| 01:02.30 | UncleKiwi | its very very predictable |
| 01:02.35 | drmessano | I have tested this on a number of devices wth 10.3.1 |
| 01:02.43 | drmessano | and I was a beta tester for 3.9.3 |
| 01:02.45 | UncleKiwi | if the screen is unlocked the call comes in |
| 01:02.55 | drmessano | It's absolutely working for me |
| 01:02.59 | UncleKiwi | if i lock it wait 1 min call dont come in |
| 01:03.09 | UncleKiwi | sometimes the 2nd one comes in |
| 01:03.18 | UncleKiwi | yeah its odd |
| 01:03.23 | UncleKiwi | any suggestions ? |
| 01:03.33 | UncleKiwi | i could uninstall the app |
| 01:03.35 | UncleKiwi | and reinstall |
| 01:03.43 | UncleKiwi | its really anoying |
| 01:03.55 | UncleKiwi | i know its not asterisk |
| 01:04.19 | UncleKiwi | works perfect will my bria android |
| 01:04.21 | drmessano | You said you're using TLS? |
| 01:04.25 | UncleKiwi | yes |
| 01:04.33 | UncleKiwi | i want TLS |
| 01:04.41 | UncleKiwi | and encryption |
| 01:04.47 | drmessano | I never said TLS was a problem |
| 01:04.57 | UncleKiwi | i am using that on both the droid bria |
| 01:05.05 | UncleKiwi | ok |
| 01:05.29 | UncleKiwi | yeah i think its still buggy |
| 01:05.32 | drmessano | NAT Settings are "Server managed"? |
| 01:05.38 | UncleKiwi | custom |
| 01:05.42 | drmessano | I don't see how it's still buggy |
| 01:05.54 | UncleKiwi | well i do |
| 01:05.56 | drmessano | Because I have 6 devices that are working fine |
| 01:05.58 | UncleKiwi | because i have updated |
| 01:06.00 | drmessano | and others as well |
| 01:06.03 | UncleKiwi | and its still doingt he same thing |
| 01:06.20 | drmessano | Okay |
| 01:06.35 | UncleKiwi | hmm im not sure what to do |
| 01:06.37 | UncleKiwi | ahaha |
| 01:06.57 | UncleKiwi | its damn anoying |
| 01:07.45 | UncleKiwi | i'll uninstall and reinstall |
| 01:07.51 | UncleKiwi | for the sake of testing |
| 01:08.01 | UncleKiwi | do you think that could be a good move ? |
| 01:08.22 | UncleKiwi | even though the app reports 3.9.3 |
| 01:08.32 | drmessano | I have no idea, except you should change to "server managed" for your NAT settings |
| 01:08.43 | UncleKiwi | ok i'll give that a shot |
| 01:09.18 | UncleKiwi | actually it had changed its self to servermanaged |
| 01:09.25 | UncleKiwi | so it was server managed |
| 01:10.29 | UncleKiwi | Unable to create channel of type 'SIP' (cause 20 - Subscriber absent) |
| 01:11.23 | drmessano | What kind of firewall is in front of the Asterisk box? |
| 01:11.24 | UncleKiwi | what do you have for qualify ? |
| 01:11.54 | UncleKiwi | it does the same ont he same layer2 lan |
| 01:11.55 | drmessano | All my qualify settings are default |
| 01:12.04 | UncleKiwi | on your sip.conf |
| 01:12.17 | drmessano | Unset |
| 01:12.18 | UncleKiwi | for the peer |
| 01:12.21 | UncleKiwi | oek |
| 01:12.22 | drmessano | Default |
| 01:12.23 | UncleKiwi | ok |
| 01:12.46 | drmessano | Which iphone is this? |
| 01:16.39 | UncleKiwi | MG492X/A |
| 01:16.45 | UncleKiwi | how can i tell |
| 01:16.54 | UncleKiwi | thats the hardware ver in about |
| 01:17.21 | UncleKiwi | Model |
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| 01:33.01 | UncleKiwi | make sure you lock the screen and then wait 2min before calling it. |
| 01:44.54 | UncleKiwi | MG492X/A = iphone 6 |
| 01:48.01 | UncleKiwi | drmessano: can you reproduce the fault I am experiencing ? |
| 01:49.00 | drmessano | I can not |
| 01:49.04 | drmessano | Matter of fact |
| 01:49.36 | drmessano | I just tested it.. My phone has been sitting here for an hour or so, locked. Call came right through |
| 01:50.10 | UncleKiwi | hmmm |
| 01:50.14 | UncleKiwi | omg |
| 01:50.47 | drmessano | I told you |
| 01:50.50 | UncleKiwi | yeah |
| 01:50.52 | UncleKiwi | i know |
| 01:50.52 | drmessano | I beta tested 3.9.3 |
| 01:51.08 | drmessano | 3.9.2 did not work |
| 01:51.14 | drmessano | 3.9.3 fixed it |
| 01:51.22 | drmessano | So I am familiar with the behavior |
| 01:51.26 | UncleKiwi | yeah well i have the fault with 3.9.3 |
| 01:51.50 | drmessano | If you let it sit for a while |
| 01:51.52 | drmessano | and unlock it |
| 01:51.56 | drmessano | and DONT switch to BRIA |
| 01:52.00 | drmessano | and call it |
| 01:52.04 | drmessano | Does it work? |
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| 01:52.11 | UncleKiwi | yes |
| 01:52.44 | UncleKiwi | it locking related for sure |
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| 03:39.09 | UncleKiwi | drmessano: interesting note the second call if called within a few seconds rings |
| 03:39.29 | UncleKiwi | drmessano: not sure if that will help |
| 03:53.37 | drmessano | So let me ask you this |
| 03:53.56 | drmessano | If Bria ISN'T backgrounding properly |
| 03:54.03 | drmessano | Why does call #2 work? |
| 03:54.19 | drmessano | I didn't even see that in the Betas, or 3.9.2 |
| 03:59.26 | drmessano | what are your register and qualify settings in Bria? |
| 03:59.36 | drmessano | 900/900 30/30 ? |
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| 04:38.23 | UncleKiwi | 900/900 30/9 |
| 04:39.02 | UncleKiwi | If Bria ISN'T backgrounding properly - all calls arrive if the screen is not locked |
| 04:39.34 | UncleKiwi | i have just uninstalled the app and reinstalled it |
| 04:39.46 | UncleKiwi | im testing to see if that makes any difference |
| 04:42.17 | UncleKiwi | that would be a aweful work around to make it ring - very quick call attempt followed by the reall call |
| 04:42.21 | UncleKiwi | *real |
| 04:43.07 | UncleKiwi | still faulty after reinstall |
| 04:43.26 | UncleKiwi | my clients iphone 7+ is sweet |
| 04:43.46 | UncleKiwi | its just this iphone 6 that is giving the issue |
| 04:51.18 | UncleKiwi | ok after reinstalling the app its look like it has improved |
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| 05:05.10 | UncleKiwi | yeah its still bad after reinstalled |
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| 05:31.04 | drmessano | UncleKiwi: |
| 05:31.18 | drmessano | You have an iPhone 7 with no issues? |
| 05:32.02 | drmessano | 00:43:26Â <UncleKiwi>Â my clients iphone 7+ is sweet |
| 05:32.02 | drmessano | 00:43:46Â <UncleKiwi>Â its just this iphone 6 that is giving the issue |
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| 05:40.52 | UncleKiwi | i have an FXO device attached to the pstn line and it will not pass through the DTMF to the dominos IVR but other IVRs are fine ... Any ideas ? |
| 05:41.30 | UncleKiwi | drmessano: correct |
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| 05:42.02 | drmessano | ...... |
| 05:42.21 | drmessano | So that tells me there's an issue with that iPhone 6 |
| 05:45.07 | UncleKiwi | hmmm |
| 05:45.14 | UncleKiwi | what could cause such an issue |
| 05:45.21 | UncleKiwi | the user is very basic |
| 05:45.50 | UncleKiwi | almost no apps installed |
| 05:46.25 | drmessano | Could be any number of issues with the phone, like something wrong with the radio |
| 05:47.00 | drmessano | But again.. I have many devices i've tested on.. and you have an iPhone 7 that doesn't have a problem |
| 05:47.04 | drmessano | So how is this a bug? |
| 05:47.43 | lorsungcu | well they have an iphone |
| 05:47.43 | UncleKiwi | well the iphone 6 is not an i phone 7 |
| 05:47.46 | lorsungcu | clearly theyre basic |
| 05:48.12 | drmessano | UncleKiwi: It's not likely to fail on one specific device |
| 05:48.27 | drmessano | They both have 10.3.1 or 10.3? |
| 05:49.25 | UncleKiwi | iphone6 has 10.3.1 |
| 05:51.41 | lorsungcu | have youtried turning it off and then back on |
| 05:52.16 | drmessano | Ok, but they're current |
| 05:52.33 | drmessano | Behavior should be identical |
| 05:52.54 | drmessano | Wifi and LTE, same issue? |
| 05:54.44 | UncleKiwi | both phones are 10.3.1 |
| 05:55.47 | UncleKiwi | and yes WiFi LTE same issue |
| 05:56.06 | UncleKiwi | even different PBX |
| 05:58.41 | drmessano | There's something not right with that phone |
| 06:01.05 | UncleKiwi | i guess there could be a hardware fault or some other app on it conflicting with bria ---- but i thing based on how buggy bria has been in the past... I feel it will turn out to be a bug |
| 06:01.18 | UncleKiwi | especially seeing it used to work in the past |
| 06:01.27 | drmessano | ok |
| 06:01.50 | UncleKiwi | software updates have naffed it |
| 06:02.08 | drmessano | Well, there are currently no betas |
| 06:02.13 | drmessano | So they're not even working on it |
| 06:02.17 | UncleKiwi | ahahah |
| 06:02.23 | UncleKiwi | i feel sad |
| 06:02.35 | UncleKiwi | and tired |
| 06:02.36 | drmessano | Sounded like they nailed the background issue with 3.9.3 |
| 06:02.42 | drmessano | So |
| 06:02.49 | drmessano | I dont know what to tell ya |
| 06:03.12 | UncleKiwi | maybe i'll raise a ticket im sure they will ask me for the logs |
| 06:03.28 | drmessano | Worth a shot |
| 06:04.44 | UncleKiwi | zoiper is expensive is it any better ? |
| 06:04.50 | UncleKiwi | have you tested that |
| 06:05.00 | UncleKiwi | or is bria they way to go |
| 06:05.13 | UncleKiwi | *the way to go |
| 06:05.20 | drmessano | I've not had any problems with Bria |
| 06:05.26 | drmessano | I tired Zoiper |
| 06:05.30 | drmessano | I tried Zoiper |
| 06:05.35 | drmessano | DIdnt see the need |
| 06:07.06 | UncleKiwi | any ideas why dtmf would not be reaching some ivr's and not others |
| 06:07.20 | UncleKiwi | out one of my clients FXO devices |
| 06:08.20 | UncleKiwi | im not using inband |
| 06:08.36 | drmessano | Is it an ATA? |
| 06:08.42 | UncleKiwi | si |
| 06:08.48 | drmessano | SPA-3102? |
| 06:08.52 | UncleKiwi | no |
| 06:09.03 | drmessano | Worse? |
| 06:09.08 | UncleKiwi | its a grandstream HT503 |
| 06:09.08 | drmessano | Grandsuck? |
| 06:09.12 | drmessano | oh god |
| 06:09.12 | UncleKiwi | ahaha |
| 06:09.24 | drmessano | Yeah, probably because Grandsuck are junk |
| 06:09.49 | drmessano | Just a guess.. or a likely scenario |
| 06:09.50 | UncleKiwi | i have been enjoying some of their junk |
| 06:10.00 | UncleKiwi | maybe like junk food |
| 06:10.07 | drmessano | Well |
| 06:10.10 | UncleKiwi | ahaha |
| 06:10.15 | drmessano | You can try playng with the impedence settings |
| 06:10.17 | UncleKiwi | nah some of their stuff is great |
| 06:10.22 | drmessano | Just tweak slightly |
| 06:10.35 | drmessano | No, none of their stuff is great. It's low end, for a reason |
| 06:10.43 | UncleKiwi | ahaha |
| 06:10.57 | drmessano | But the line settings may help |
| 06:10.59 | drmessano | or may not |
| 06:11.03 | drmessano | Thats all you can do |
| 06:11.07 | drmessano | Other than run over it |
| 06:11.25 | UncleKiwi | ahaha |
| 06:11.35 | UncleKiwi | thanks for the tip |
| 06:11.50 | UncleKiwi | so what do you use |
| 06:13.10 | drmessano | I try to avoid Analog 99% of the time. It's not worth it anymore. I've use SPA-3102's in the past |
| 06:13.15 | drmessano | But that's been years |
| 06:13.27 | drmessano | SIP is so much better/cheaper |
| 06:14.04 | UncleKiwi | yeah I have 1 of them they are great |
| 06:14.25 | UncleKiwi | and I do to - in this instance im using the ata's until the contract ends with the copper lines |
| 06:15.08 | UncleKiwi | almost worth paying the contract break fees if someone can't order their pizza |
| 06:15.25 | drmessano | The only good Analog interface is a TDM card. Most ATA's are pretty terrible at it. It's not worth buying either anymore. |
| 06:15.49 | drmessano | Even the 3102 was never great at Analog. It "worked" but it wasn't seamless |
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| 06:50.25 | UncleKiwi | drmessano: what's the struggle if it can pass tones to the pstn net woork for one ivr why can it not do it for another > |
| 06:50.26 | UncleKiwi | ? |
| 06:55.43 | drmessano | It's an analog line |
| 06:55.49 | drmessano | So analog tones |
| 06:55.59 | UncleKiwi | yes |
| 06:56.16 | UncleKiwi | the FXO will create them right ? |
| 06:56.47 | drmessano | Yes.. and it sounds like theres noise on the line or the impedence is off |
| 06:56.57 | drmessano | Likely needs a tweak, as I said |
| 06:57.20 | UncleKiwi | yeah im tweeking like a ... |
| 06:57.23 | UncleKiwi | ahaha |
| 06:57.33 | UncleKiwi | im all tweeked out |
| 06:57.35 | drmessano | Ok, what are you tweaking? |
| 06:58.40 | UncleKiwi | DTMF Digit Length (ms) |
| 06:58.51 | drmessano | Nope |
| 06:58.57 | UncleKiwi | Gain: TX RX |
| 06:59.00 | drmessano | Line settings |
| 06:59.03 | drmessano | Impedence |
| 07:00.02 | UncleKiwi | i think it might be too low end to have that |
| 07:00.36 | UncleKiwi | ok sorted |
| 07:00.50 | drmessano | My googling says thats not the case |
| 07:01.02 | UncleKiwi | AC Termination Model |
| 07:01.21 | UncleKiwi | I had to change it from country based to Impedance based |
| 07:02.13 | UncleKiwi | and i have the settings 270ohms +750 ohms 150nF |
| 07:02.22 | UncleKiwi | is that the things i should be tweeking |
| 07:02.54 | drmessano | Yep |
| 07:03.28 | UncleKiwi | the tweek was good thank you |
| 07:04.05 | drmessano | Is there a 220/820 || 120nf of some sort? |
| 07:04.46 | UncleKiwi | ill take a look im in new zealand and i think the settings i have set is from our pstn |
| 07:04.52 | drmessano | Ah |
| 07:04.52 | drmessano | ok |
| 07:05.22 | UncleKiwi | there is a lot of buzz on the line |
| 07:05.34 | drmessano | http://forums.grandstream.com/forums/index.php?topic=27660.0 |
| 07:05.41 | drmessano | buzz would do it |
| 07:05.48 | drmessano | There's some recommended settings |
| 07:06.01 | UncleKiwi | thank you |
| 07:06.05 | UncleKiwi | i'll take a look |
| 07:06.55 | UncleKiwi | see how its using in audio |
| 07:06.59 | UncleKiwi | inaudio |
| 07:07.05 | drmessano | YEah |
| 07:07.46 | UncleKiwi | i thought i would be best to use rfc2833 |
| 07:08.15 | drmessano | Well, it's analog, so |
| 07:08.40 | drmessano | You're passing the DAC from the HT503 to further down the line |
| 07:09.17 | drmessano | I would start off with those settings though |
| 07:09.33 | UncleKiwi | yeah im giving it a try now thank you |
| 07:12.00 | UncleKiwi | any tips for buzz removal |
| 07:12.43 | drmessano | If you change the line impedence, which is critical, and it doesnt go away, then it's on the telco |
| 07:13.19 | drmessano | Is the buzz on the line with an analog phone connected? |
| 07:13.26 | drmessano | and the ATA off the line |
| 07:17.54 | UncleKiwi | ah don't just love it when things work |
| 07:18.12 | drmessano | Did that fix it? |
| 07:18.34 | UncleKiwi | yeah |
| 07:18.50 | drmessano | Line impedence is critical on those things |
| 07:19.06 | UncleKiwi | the buzz is not fixed |
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| 07:19.17 | drmessano | Is the buzz on the line with an analog phone connected? <---- |
| 07:19.19 | UncleKiwi | but atleast the dtmf works |
| 07:19.24 | drmessano | Okay |
| 07:20.01 | UncleKiwi | Is the buzz on the line with an analog phone connected? <---- I will check when im onsite next |
| 07:20.13 | drmessano | Unplug the ATA too |
| 07:20.16 | drmessano | Just in case |
| 07:20.21 | drmessano | and listen with a standard phone |
| 07:20.26 | UncleKiwi | ok |
| 07:20.43 | UncleKiwi | yeah it is next to a massive power box |
| 07:20.57 | UncleKiwi | sounds a lot like a 50hz buzz |
| 07:21.33 | drmessano | That could be a red herring. But if it's not a problem with the 503 and you hear it otherwise, let the telco find it |
| 07:21.46 | drmessano | Customer pays them enough for their fine service |
| 07:22.17 | UncleKiwi | yeah the customer needs to use this service for another 5 months |
| 07:22.28 | UncleKiwi | then we will port to SIP |
| 07:22.57 | UncleKiwi | the old pbx died |
| 07:23.10 | UncleKiwi | while i had a quote with the client |
| 07:24.00 | UncleKiwi | so said i can do anything because I use asterisk ahaha |
| 07:24.18 | UncleKiwi | well not quite with thoes words |
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| 17:35.20 | TheGallopingFox | is opus the best codec to use these days for high quality calls? |
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| 17:36.57 | Samot | For your side of it or internal calls? Sure. |
| 17:37.33 | TheGallopingFox | yeah internal calls |
| 17:38.22 | Samot | Sure. |
| 17:38.23 | TheGallopingFox | csipsimple has a codec pack what has opus :) |
| 17:38.38 | igcewieling1 | TheGallopingFox: most people use G722 and get on with their lives. |
| 17:38.56 | TheGallopingFox | is G722 good quality too? |
| 17:39.19 | Samot | It's wide-band |
| 17:39.21 | Samot | Yes. |
| 17:39.24 | TheGallopingFox | oh nice |
| 17:39.31 | igcewieling1 | TheGallopingFox: As far as I can tell It is the highest quality codec commonly supported be SIP devices, and even then it isn't supported by everyone. |
| 17:39.35 | TheGallopingFox | do most cellphones use G722 for normal calls? |
| 17:39.49 | igcewieling1 | TheGallopingFox: no, they use GSM codec. |
| 17:40.22 | TheGallopingFox | sometimes i notice really high quality calls from some people what call me |
| 17:40.29 | igcewieling1 | I think Sprint is experimenting with on-net G722 |
| 17:40.30 | TheGallopingFox | and normal cellphone network |
| 17:40.46 | TheGallopingFox | *on |
| 17:40.54 | igcewieling1 | TheGallopingFox: do you have a 4G phone? |
| 17:40.57 | TheGallopingFox | yeah |
| 17:41.30 | igcewieling1 | Then it is possible, though I've not heard of it. Heck, even ISDN "supports" g.722 codec |
| 17:42.11 | igcewieling1 | TheGallopingFox: Sorry, I meant 4G voice. Most "4G phones" drop to 3G for voice. |
| 17:42.29 | TheGallopingFox | i havent a clue, my cellphone is 4G running android |
| 17:42.56 | igcewieling1 | TheGallopingFox: I'm sure it isn't easy. what model of phone? |
| 17:43.01 | TheGallopingFox | landline > cellphone is crap quality, but sometimes cellphone > cellphone can be high quality |
| 17:43.15 | TheGallopingFox | its a motorola moto e 2nd gen |
| 17:43.17 | igcewieling1 | also, what country? |
| 17:43.19 | TheGallopingFox | uk |
| 17:43.55 | Samot | TheGallopingFox: Honestly, it's a shot in the dark. |
| 17:44.01 | igcewieling1 | Ah! you live in a civilized country. Europe is several years ahead of the USA in many aspects of telecom. |
| 17:44.15 | Samot | It's up to the carriers on how they pass the calls between each other. |
| 17:44.18 | igcewieling1 | My comments apply to USA carriers. |
| 17:44.25 | TheGallopingFox | oh right ok |
| 17:44.37 | Samot | You could be getting a higher quality call because 1) It's on-net 2) carriers have IP interconnects. |
| 17:44.50 | TheGallopingFox | my polycom soundpoint IP 321 doesnt have opus in the list |
| 17:44.55 | TheGallopingFox | so maybe opus wont work after all |
| 17:44.56 | Samot | It won't. |
| 17:45.03 | Samot | VVX500 or higher |
| 17:45.07 | igcewieling1 | The UK has state of the art technology like line sharing and tower sharing. |
| 17:45.12 | Samot | I'm not sure what Soundpoints support it.. |
| 17:45.22 | TheGallopingFox | but my softphone csipsimple does have opus with the extra codec pack |
| 17:45.27 | Samot | But the lower models will not. |
| 17:45.29 | igcewieling1 | If any soundpoints support it, it would be the VVX line. |
| 17:45.41 | Samot | They are different lines |
| 17:45.49 | TheGallopingFox | IP 321 does support G.772.1C 32 kbps |
| 17:45.56 | Samot | But it will be based on the UC firmware. |
| 17:46.09 | Samot | Lower model phones will not have opus support. |
| 17:46.10 | Samot | Period. |
| 17:46.14 | TheGallopingFox | oh ok |
| 17:46.17 | Samot | Not enough resources. |
| 17:46.35 | TheGallopingFox | actually |
| 17:46.47 | TheGallopingFox | it supports G.722.1C 48 kbps |
| 17:46.53 | TheGallopingFox | that might sound pretty good quality |
| 17:46.58 | igcewieling1 | Isn't G722.1C aka Siren? |
| 17:47.13 | TheGallopingFox | siren22 64 kbps is also in the list! |
| 17:47.26 | igcewieling1 | Whereas the non .1c is the standard G722 |
| 17:47.28 | Samot | Not even the new 411's have the resources |
| 17:47.33 | Samot | And those were a hardware upgrade. |
| 17:48.21 | TheGallopingFox | so maybe i need a softphone what supports siren22 |
| 17:49.01 | TheGallopingFox | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.csipsimple.plugins.codecs.pack1&hl=en_GB |
| 17:49.56 | igcewieling1 | TheGallopingFox: The Siren codecs a Polycom proprietary codecs, they must be licensed from Polycom. |
| 17:50.23 | Samot | How about this.. |
| 17:50.27 | Samot | What is this all about? |
| 17:50.34 | Samot | What are you actually looking for in the codec? |
| 17:50.52 | TheGallopingFox | oh i didnt know that |
| 17:51.01 | TheGallopingFox | Samot: high quality calls |
| 17:51.13 | Samot | That's vague. |
| 17:51.21 | Samot | There's no guarantee. |
| 17:51.24 | igcewieling1 | Why not start with G722, which should be good enough for most people and would be the easiest to setup. |
| 17:51.24 | TheGallopingFox | well anything is better than gsm |
| 17:51.33 | TheGallopingFox | ok will do thanks |
| 17:51.33 | Samot | How will you get these high quality calls? |
| 17:51.39 | Samot | Do you have the bandwidth to support it? |
| 17:51.51 | TheGallopingFox | from using my softphone to ring my land line voip |
| 17:51.58 | TheGallopingFox | when im out |
| 17:51.59 | Samot | Opus is kinda like g729 for G722 |
| 17:52.09 | Samot | It's Wide-band without all the bandwidth. |
| 17:52.24 | TheGallopingFox | right ok thanks |
| 17:52.59 | Samot | So you'll be on your mobile. |
| 17:53.11 | Samot | And you'll want to use the softclient to make calls. |
| 17:53.18 | TheGallopingFox | yeah using android and csipsimple |
| 17:53.18 | Samot | Correct? |
| 17:53.28 | Samot | And you want the highest quality call? |
| 17:53.33 | Samot | It's a crap shoot. |
| 17:53.38 | Samot | Too many variables. |
| 17:53.40 | TheGallopingFox | then i can ring my landline what is a polycom ip 321 when im out |
| 17:53.43 | TheGallopingFox | incase i need to ring home |
| 17:54.01 | Samot | You can try opus. |
| 17:54.09 | Samot | That's one piece of the puzzle. |
| 17:54.25 | TheGallopingFox | Samot: i could do but opus isnt listed in the audio codecs web gui on polycom 321 |
| 17:54.30 | igcewieling1 | I was never happy with SIP on a cellphone, but maybe I has the wrong cellphone. |
| 17:54.36 | Samot | Wait. |
| 17:54.44 | Samot | Why are you calling your polycom at the house? |
| 17:54.53 | TheGallopingFox | incase i need to ring home |
| 17:54.56 | TheGallopingFox | when im out |
| 17:55.02 | TheGallopingFox | free calls and high quality lol |
| 17:55.08 | Samot | Calling home? |
| 17:55.15 | TheGallopingFox | yeah |
| 17:55.19 | Samot | If you have a softclient |
| 17:55.23 | Samot | It's exten to exten |
| 17:55.25 | Samot | Of course. |
| 17:55.28 | TheGallopingFox | thats correct |
| 17:55.30 | Samot | That's why's there's a PBX |
| 17:55.44 | Samot | Well if you want the highest quality calls... |
| 17:55.47 | TheGallopingFox | it all works well just need to test some codecs |
| 17:55.52 | Samot | Get a phone that's not 10 years old. |
| 17:55.58 | TheGallopingFox | lol good idea |
| 17:56.06 | Samot | That's always a start. |
| 17:56.23 | Samot | Get something that is actually current and supports what you need for high quality. |
| 17:56.30 | Samot | I mean, you installed Opus. |
| 17:56.52 | TheGallopingFox | another possible idea is to get my friends to register sip accounts on my asterisk box |
| 17:57.01 | TheGallopingFox | then i can call them directly |
| 17:57.27 | Samot | Awww. |
| 17:57.30 | Samot | This is cute. |
| 17:57.34 | TheGallopingFox | lol |
| 17:57.41 | Samot | It so reminds me of me and my friends in 1994 |
| 17:57.54 | Samot | Settings up BBS networks. |
| 17:58.01 | TheGallopingFox | well its free phone calls and high quality if i set it up correctly |
| 17:58.05 | Samot | So we can have a super friends chat and games |
| 17:58.19 | Samot | It's free in a sense. |
| 17:58.21 | TheGallopingFox | apart from data use of course |
| 17:58.24 | Samot | Sure. |
| 17:59.39 | TheGallopingFox | but then again, if the codec uses lots of bandwidth it might cost more than a normal phone call lol |
| 17:59.53 | Samot | Yup. |
| 18:00.18 | Samot | That's like saying HD vs SD will us more bandwidth when you stream a video. |
| 18:00.23 | Samot | Of course. |
| 18:00.33 | TheGallopingFox | i wonder what kbps normal phone calls use these days |
| 18:00.37 | Samot | g711 |
| 18:00.42 | Samot | ulaw/alwa |
| 18:00.52 | TheGallopingFox | oh thats about 8 kbps ? |
| 18:00.52 | Samot | ulaw/alaw is the "PSTN" codec |
| 18:00.56 | Samot | No. |
| 18:01.02 | Samot | Like 90 |
| 18:01.14 | Samot | g729, which is also a carrier favorite, is like that |
| 18:01.55 | igcewieling1 | ulaw is 64 kbps, the extra is network/rtp overhead |
| 18:02.03 | Samot | Yeah |
| 18:02.50 | Samot | Basically 1.5Mbsp (T1) is like 24 g711 channels. |
| 18:04.05 | Samot | With an E1, which I think is 2Mbps, you get like 30 channels. |
| 18:04.08 | Samot | Or something close. |
| 18:04.16 | Samot | I can't remember the conversion off the top of my head. |
| 18:04.31 | Samot | It's like 30 or 32 channels I think. |
| 18:14.13 | [TK]D-Fender | ~isdn |
| 18:14.13 | infobot | from memory, isdn is (Integrated Services Digital Network) This is a digital line that is often used to connect to the Internet. It generally come in two flavors: one is a 56 Kbps version, which in actuality only uses half of the ISDN line's bandwidth; the other is the 128 Kbps version, which uses both the 56 Kbps channels on the line. However, that's only 112 Kbps--the other 16 Kbps are an 8 Kbps back channel of each line. "It Still Does Nothing" |
| 18:14.20 | [TK]D-Fender | ~e1 |
| 18:14.20 | infobot | [~E1] E1 is the basic digital telephony circuit used everywhere except the US,Japan,Taiwan & Hong Kong (who use T1 and similar variants). E1 runs at 2.048Mbps. It can be an unstructured channel for data. It can be channelized, to provide 31 time slots of voice or data, each of 64kbps. Time slot 16 is used for D-Chan when used with PRI signalling. |
| 18:14.23 | [TK]D-Fender | There we are |
| 18:14.44 | [TK]D-Fender | I've never heard of e1 being purely channelized, and not PRI |
| 18:14.50 | [TK]D-Fender | (CAS) |
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| 20:04.48 | igcewieling1 | I remember when in Louisiana a 2B+D ISDN was around $100/month and 2 analog lines would be about $25/each. Then the telcos complained about nobody buying their nifty new service. |
| 20:07.51 | [TK]D-Fender | I remember when I started with the internet it was much the same in the late 90's |
| 20:07.55 | [TK]D-Fender | up here |
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| 21:02.30 | f32f | hey can anyone recommend a good book to learn basics of asterisks? |
| 21:02.44 | Samot | ~book |
| 21:02.44 | infobot | Asterisk: The Definitive Guide, 4th Edition (ISBN 1-4493-3242-0) available at http://oreilly.com/catalog/0636920025894 - Asterisk: The Definitive Guide is released under a Creative Commons License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/us/) and a version is available for reading online at http://www.asteriskdocs.org/ or see ~buybook |
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