| 00:25.23 | Kobaz | sibiria: start up with core set debug at a high level, try like 5 |
| 00:25.28 | Kobaz | sibiria: and then put in a bug report |
| 00:30.37 | drmessano | You should test on 13-latest though |
| 00:30.46 | drmessano | Not sure why you have a cert release |
| 00:32.17 | Kobaz | that too |
| 00:32.34 | Kobaz | but it's good to know about bugs that specifically affect cert |
| 00:32.38 | drmessano | That sounds like one of those annoying PJSIP things i've heard fixed recently |
| 00:34.10 | drmessano | Kobaz: I've yet to run into someone running cert for the right reason |
| 00:34.35 | drmessano | or should I say "The appropriate reason" |
| 00:35.39 | *** join/#asterisk Oatmeal (~Suzeanne@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/suzeanne) |
| 00:35.48 | *** join/#asterisk zapata (~zapata@2a02:b18:581:10:ba27:ebff:fee4:a52f) |
| 00:54.14 | *** join/#asterisk startledmarmot (~startledm@216.53.138.131) |
| 00:54.40 | *** join/#asterisk follow-me (~z@213.139.52.146) |
| 00:54.51 | follow-me | hello |
| 00:55.30 | follow-me | Guys I have huge problem my asterisk keeps crashing , Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. |
| 00:55.30 | follow-me | #0 0x00007f4e9ad55495 in raise () from /lib64/libc.so.6 |
| 00:56.00 | follow-me | When calls reaches 70 concurrent it suddenly stop accepting calls and crashes until I restart asterisk |
| 00:56.25 | Samot | What kind of resources are in the server? |
| 00:56.27 | voipmonk | ugh |
| 00:59.33 | follow-me | Its asterisk more kolmisoft |
| 00:59.36 | follow-me | mor* |
| 00:59.53 | Samot | That wasn't the question |
| 00:59.59 | Samot | What are the resources in the server? |
| 01:00.02 | Samot | CPU? |
| 01:00.03 | Samot | RAM? |
| 01:00.08 | follow-me | Oh 1 sec |
| 01:01.14 | drmessano | I dont know how you're going to troubleshoot this |
| 01:01.22 | drmessano | It's some prebuild appliance |
| 01:01.26 | drmessano | It's some prebuilt appliance |
| 01:01.58 | Samot | That decided to use Asterisk as a switch engine.. |
| 01:02.00 | Samot | Sooooo |
| 01:02.17 | voipmonk | dont want |
| 01:02.29 | drmessano | Right |
| 01:02.39 | follow-me | Intel xeon e3 1270 v6 4c/8t 3.8 ghz/4.2 ghz. 32 gb ddr4 ecc 2400mhz |
| 01:02.45 | voipmonk | good lord |
| 01:03.08 | drmessano | Right |
| 01:03.13 | drmessano | This is some fancy shit appliance |
| 01:03.22 | drmessano | He needs to contact the vendor |
| 01:03.56 | drmessano | There's probably 10001 things he can't change on this box |
| 01:04.00 | voipmonk | to be clear that hunk of hardware should do Welllllll over 70 concurrent |
| 01:04.18 | drmessano | They advertise thousands of calls |
| 01:04.47 | follow-me | how can I stop the crashing |
| 01:04.55 | follow-me | And do auto restart incase of crash |
| 01:04.56 | drmessano | You need to contact the vendor |
| 01:05.04 | drmessano | and not mess with the box |
| 01:05.06 | follow-me | There is no warranty |
| 01:05.13 | follow-me | Tried with hem |
| 01:05.23 | drmessano | No warranty? |
| 01:05.26 | follow-me | They said its happening with me only |
| 01:05.37 | drmessano | Why would you buy a fancy prebuilt thing .... nevermind |
| 01:05.56 | voipmonk | did you pay the idiot tax $$$ ? :) |
| 01:06.02 | follow-me | yes |
| 01:06.10 | voipmonk | well cash it in and get some support - |
| 01:06.16 | voipmonk | from THEM |
| 01:06.16 | follow-me | I bought the license |
| 01:06.32 | drmessano | So follow me here |
| 01:06.32 | follow-me | but I don't want their support |
| 01:06.41 | follow-me | I want someone who faced the same issue |
| 01:06.46 | voipmonk | then swap out the drive and go plain and get more |
| 01:06.47 | drmessano | What distro is this built on? |
| 01:06.57 | drmessano | You're not gonna find someone who faced the SAME issue |
| 01:06.58 | follow-me | centos 6.5 |
| 01:07.08 | drmessano | This is some CUSTOM APPLIANCE |
| 01:07.11 | voipmonk | sorry - Im gonna shut up - what do I know... |
| 01:07.21 | voipmonk | pushed more calls with less back in the NuFone days |
| 01:07.29 | follow-me | drmessano, its coming when I added a new client to send calls to my asterisk |
| 01:07.50 | drmessano | Does this thing have a billing platform and shit integrated? |
| 01:08.14 | Samot | Oh more than that |
| 01:08.27 | drmessano | Im asking HIM |
| 01:08.31 | drmessano | What he bought |
| 01:08.42 | drmessano | I know what they offer |
| 01:08.58 | follow-me | Tes |
| 01:09.01 | drmessano | Trying to walk him through how impossible this is gong to be |
| 01:09.20 | drmessano | This whole box is custom, and is sold as a PLATFORM |
| 01:09.21 | drmessano | So |
| 01:09.28 | follow-me | Man im sure there is some config files or a file we edit that can auto restart when crash |
| 01:09.40 | drmessano | Anything you do like, you know, ripping out Asterisk and reinstalling, risks breaking the whole thing you overpaid for |
| 01:09.43 | follow-me | Maybe heavy load increase parameters |
| 01:09.49 | drmessano | 70 calls? |
| 01:09.52 | voipmonk | reminds me of sysmaster |
| 01:09.59 | follow-me | Not nececesarly 70 |
| 01:10.03 | drmessano | You should be doing THOUSANDS of calls on that box |
| 01:10.11 | follow-me | on asterisk ? |
| 01:10.12 | Samot | At least 500 or so |
| 01:10.16 | drmessano | YES |
| 01:10.17 | voipmonk | YES |
| 01:10.18 | Samot | According to their website |
| 01:10.30 | follow-me | samot do you have any idea |
| 01:10.35 | Samot | No. |
| 01:10.39 | Samot | It's some custom thing |
| 01:10.41 | drmessano | Youre not listening |
| 01:10.46 | Samot | I have no idea what they've done. |
| 01:10.53 | Samot | You bought an appliance. |
| 01:10.56 | drmessano | Your only support is THEM |
| 01:11.01 | Samot | ^^^^^ |
| 01:11.04 | drmessano | Anything you do like, you know, ripping out Asterisk and reinstalling, risks breaking the whole thing you overpaid for <------ |
| 01:11.40 | drmessano | Has it always crashed at ~70 calls? |
| 01:12.19 | drmessano | follow-me: ? |
| 01:12.21 | *** join/#asterisk yokel_ (~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt) |
| 01:13.44 | drmessano | follow-me: Something is buggy about their asterisk build, I would imagine |
| 01:15.08 | drmessano | You can swap the drive and start over, as voipmonk suggested, but then you lose all that crap you paid for |
| 01:15.13 | drmessano | So thats up to you |
| 01:15.27 | drmessano | The box isn't useless, but whats ON it may be |
| 01:15.58 | voipmonk | I'm gonna regret this... How much did you pay for that box? |
| 01:16.06 | follow-me | Kolmisoft is the best ever |
| 01:16.07 | voipmonk | just for giggles... |
| 01:16.18 | drmessano | voipmonk: cant we just not know? |
| 01:16.26 | follow-me | too many features |
| 01:16.27 | voipmonk | cuz its already $hi%ing |
| 01:16.34 | follow-me | Listen to live calls |
| 01:16.38 | drmessano | follow-me: How much did you pay? |
| 01:16.40 | follow-me | Active calls |
| 01:16.49 | voipmonk | voipmonitor.org <------ free can do the same thing... |
| 01:16.51 | drmessano | These are all asterisk standard features |
| 01:16.59 | follow-me | Not live spy |
| 01:17.03 | drmessano | Yes |
| 01:17.03 | voipmonk | yep |
| 01:17.24 | drmessano | How much did you pay? |
| 01:17.47 | drmessano | Please tell us, and voipmonk will lead us in a chant |
| 01:18.17 | follow-me | 2000 usd |
| 01:18.23 | drmessano | OVER PAIDME FUCKME OM |
| 01:18.28 | drmessano | ^ repeat |
| 01:18.37 | voipmonk | im dying over here |
| 01:18.39 | follow-me | For 5 licenses mor kolmisoft |
| 01:18.45 | drmessano | OVER PAIDME FUCKME OM |
| 01:18.45 | voipmonk | 5 licenses? |
| 01:18.49 | drmessano | Wait |
| 01:18.50 | follow-me | Lol yes |
| 01:18.53 | Samot | Oh crap. |
| 01:18.53 | voipmonk | ok what does 5 licenses mean? |
| 01:18.54 | drmessano | 5 licenses for what? |
| 01:18.56 | Samot | What licenses? |
| 01:18.58 | drmessano | 5 what? |
| 01:19.05 | drmessano | What do you get 5 of? |
| 01:19.07 | follow-me | Each copy has 1 license |
| 01:19.16 | voipmonk | ducks but the D is an F |
| 01:19.19 | follow-me | On the website each license is 6k usd |
| 01:19.26 | drmessano | Wait, you paid $2000 for the SOFTWARE? |
| 01:19.29 | follow-me | I bought it from hacker |
| 01:19.30 | voipmonk | use one everytime u call support |
| 01:19.32 | follow-me | Yes |
| 01:19.37 | drmessano | HAHHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHHA |
| 01:19.43 | drmessano | So thats why you cant get support |
| 01:19.44 | follow-me | Who hacked the license |
| 01:19.49 | drmessano | bought it from a hacker |
| 01:19.50 | follow-me | Yes :( |
| 01:19.54 | drmessano | Clever boy |
| 01:19.57 | voipmonk | I can't. |
| 01:19.58 | follow-me | But before I was renting |
| 01:20.07 | drmessano | hands voipmonk the O2 tank |
| 01:20.08 | follow-me | With them 600 usd a month |
| 01:20.13 | drmessano | OVER PAIDME FUCKME OM |
| 01:20.26 | drmessano | HACKME FUCKME CALLME OM |
| 01:20.46 | drmessano | 600 a month? |
| 01:20.53 | drmessano | Please stop |
| 01:21.04 | drmessano | My wife is yelling at me for snorting so much |
| 01:21.05 | Samot | So.. |
| 01:21.11 | voipmonk | that laugh was theraputic |
| 01:21.11 | drmessano | She can hear it down the hall |
| 01:21.14 | Samot | This is hacked |
| 01:21.20 | drmessano | ^ totally |
| 01:21.22 | Samot | You can't get support here |
| 01:21.27 | Samot | And you can't get official support |
| 01:21.29 | drmessano | It's WAREZ |
| 01:21.31 | Samot | Because you had it |
| 01:21.38 | drmessano | WAREZPBX ELITE 2K |
| 01:21.40 | follow-me | samot I had same problem when using the rented |
| 01:21.43 | Samot | But then went "fuck it, I'll get a hacked version" |
| 01:21.47 | follow-me | And even at that time they couldn't help |
| 01:21.47 | voipmonk | Im sorry. get you a drive - come back I'll help you build a better box |
| 01:22.00 | drmessano | Trixbox would be better |
| 01:22.06 | voipmonk | stop. |
| 01:22.06 | Samot | And the vendor couldn't fix it? |
| 01:22.33 | drmessano | I got a Trixbox license I will sell you for $200 |
| 01:22.42 | drmessano | Paypal Gift only |
| 01:23.11 | drmessano | I'll write "enteprise" on the ISO |
| 01:23.16 | drmessano | But seriously dude |
| 01:23.22 | drmessano | Barging in on calls |
| 01:23.27 | drmessano | Other things you described |
| 01:23.33 | drmessano | ALL ASTERISK FEATURES |
| 01:23.39 | drmessano | They're not ADDING things |
| 01:24.03 | drmessano | You bought a 6000 GUI from a hacker for 2000 and could have gotten by for FREE |
| 01:24.20 | drmessano | and now you have NO support for ANY of it |
| 01:26.41 | Samot | Hilarious |
| 01:28.02 | voipmonk | did you use Credit for the purchase? |
| 01:28.11 | drmessano | Bitcoin |
| 01:28.13 | drmessano | lol |
| 01:28.19 | voipmonk | I cant |
| 01:28.30 | voipmonk | lol |
| 01:28.54 | drmessano | warezmypbx@siplulz.biz |
| 01:34.39 | voipmonk | don't cry over spilled milk, go get that drive |
| 01:34.58 | voipmonk | then come back |
| 01:36.45 | drmessano | If you built your PBX from stuff you downloaded from Pirate Bay.. you may need help |
| 01:37.12 | Samot | ROFL |
| 01:37.20 | Samot | Not even Pirate Bay is around anymore |
| 01:37.23 | Samot | Sounds about right |
| 01:39.22 | drmessano | If the support link for your PBX ends in .onion, don't expect a lot |
| 01:40.26 | Samot | Well |
| 01:40.54 | Samot | And AMD to make sure your end users don't hear "out of funds" or "duplicate SIM" errors. |
| 01:42.06 | Samot | lol |
| 01:42.16 | voipmonk | does the music on hold sound like this: https://youtu.be/jQE66WA2s-A?t=38s |
| 01:42.19 | voipmonk | aww man |
| 01:42.30 | Samot | Those boxes are garbage. |
| 01:42.42 | voipmonk | i hope he comes back with a new drive |
| 01:42.45 | voipmonk | or she |
| 01:42.59 | drmessano | See |
| 01:43.00 | drmessano | 21:40:53 <Samot> And AMD to make sure your end users don't hear "out of funds" or "duplicate SIM" errors. |
| 01:43.04 | drmessano | ^ That also bothers me |
| 01:43.09 | Samot | ^^ That was a real thing |
| 01:43.11 | drmessano | Obviously this whole thing is shady as shit |
| 01:43.26 | drmessano | None of this is legal |
| 01:43.31 | Samot | That was hours of "AMD isn't working" |
| 01:43.36 | Samot | Then when it did.. |
| 01:43.42 | Samot | "But it's hanging up on voicemails" |
| 01:44.22 | Samot | So yeah, follow-me was going to lose clients because they were sick of hearing how their calls couldn't be completed for various reasons. |
| 01:44.24 | drmessano | This is some illegal voip GSM wirenut telco circumvention service of some sort |
| 01:44.31 | Samot | Yeah |
| 01:44.55 | drmessano | HANDS CHOPPED OFF kinda stuff |
| 01:44.57 | Samot | Those Kolmisoft boxes are ripe for it. |
| 01:44.59 | drmessano | No thank you |
| 01:45.14 | Samot | It's the "ITSP In A Box" solution. |
| 01:45.17 | Samot | Hands down. |
| 01:45.26 | drmessano | Ah, so their platform attracts them |
| 01:45.28 | Samot | AND uses Asterisk for Class 4 switching.. |
| 01:45.37 | Samot | And Class 5 services... |
| 01:45.44 | Samot | So it sounds all "carrier"-ish |
| 01:46.13 | Samot | Oh and their 1,000's of calls bechmark |
| 01:46.17 | Samot | Oh and their 1,000's of calls benchmark |
| 01:46.27 | Samot | Requires MULTIPLE boxes |
| 01:46.35 | drmessano | Yeah well |
| 01:46.38 | drmessano | You know what |
| 01:46.40 | drmessano | Smartass |
| 01:46.46 | drmessano | Those THOUSANDS of calls |
| 01:46.59 | drmessano | Require ONE GSM channel bank from Ali-Express |
| 01:47.01 | drmessano | JUST ONE |
| 01:47.04 | drmessano | So f you |
| 01:47.10 | Samot | Hacked.. |
| 01:47.19 | Samot | No wonder it crashes at 70 calls. |
| 01:47.19 | drmessano | Require ONE GENTLY USED GSM channel bank from Ali-Express |
| 01:47.26 | drmessano | ^ better? |
| 01:47.42 | Samot | $6K ?! |
| 01:47.49 | Samot | FFS. |
| 01:47.52 | drmessano | The Daisukekeyotosan GSM 1000 |
| 01:48.10 | drmessano | NOW USE MUCH 1000 SIM |
| 01:50.02 | Samot | I bet [J]oules does their MoH |
| 01:50.52 | Samot | CUZ HE HAZ LICESNES |
| 01:50.57 | voipmonk | 5 |
| 01:51.11 | Samot | Oh no.. |
| 01:51.15 | Samot | This is something different |
| 01:51.35 | Samot | Where someone doesn't understand how music licensing rights are handled. |
| 01:51.53 | Samot | And thinks that just because they have a license they can re-broadcast other stations stuff |
| 01:51.59 | drmessano | Dude |
| 01:52.05 | Samot | Like.. |
| 01:52.08 | Samot | Just... |
| 01:52.14 | drmessano | Look, I think its you that doesnt understand music licensing |
| 01:52.16 | drmessano | Its Simple |
| 01:52.22 | drmessano | You call a radio station |
| 01:52.26 | drmessano | Guy answers |
| 01:52.45 | drmessano | You ask him 'Can I use your music as the hold music on my basement ITSP'? |
| 01:53.23 | drmessano | He says "WHATEVER BRO YOURE CALLER 10 WITH SLEEZO AND GUS.. YOU WON A KOOZIE AND A FOUR PACK OF CASSINGLES" |
| 01:53.27 | Samot | Oh. |
| 01:53.27 | drmessano | and youre licensed |
| 01:53.32 | Samot | Silly me. |
| 01:53.41 | drmessano | Its THAT easy |
| 01:53.55 | drmessano | Also |
| 01:54.02 | drmessano | You have 30 days to pick up your prize |
| 01:54.12 | Samot | And to think I spent 3 years working with GWAR and dealing with Metal Blade, ASCAP, BMG and other just to use the music THEY WROTE in THEIR OWN PROJECTS |
| 01:54.14 | drmessano | You can only win once within 30 days |
| 01:54.55 | drmessano | Thanks for listening to 107.9 THE END |
| 01:55.04 | Samot | "We want to use 2:54 of X song for this promo package" |
| 01:55.12 | drmessano | Oh yeah |
| 01:55.28 | Samot | "Call the record company, the publisher, etc, etc,etc. Ask if it's cool and how much" |
| 01:55.30 | drmessano | Paying for licensing for songs YOU wrote is good stuff |
| 01:56.00 | Samot | Yeah, getting your album rights back is a big deal. |
| 01:56.30 | drmessano | We can't use more than a few seconds in a spot without permission, even if we play the song 3 minutes later |
| 01:56.34 | Samot | Reznor's had the right idea for the last while... |
| 01:57.13 | Samot | How many NiN EP/LPs has he put out over the last decade with no label or backing? |
| 01:57.26 | Samot | And that shit is always on the radio. |
| 01:58.44 | Samot | I laugh at anyone who wants to start a band for the single purpose of getting signed. |
| 01:58.48 | drmessano | But seriously |
| 01:58.53 | drmessano | That guy at WEND |
| 01:58.56 | drmessano | Totally said |
| 01:59.00 | drmessano | I could use their music |
| 01:59.09 | drmessano | So we're good, thansk |
| 01:59.14 | drmessano | So we're good, thanks |
| 02:02.02 | drmessano | voipmonk: |
| 02:02.06 | voipmonk | ? |
| 02:02.13 | drmessano | I found our new phone standard |
| 02:02.16 | drmessano | https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Very-Cheap-ip-telephone-with-WIFI_60558491433.html |
| 02:02.59 | drmessano | "Very Cheap ip telephone with WIFI and SIP" <--- screams quality |
| 02:03.04 | drmessano | So anytime some asks for a phone |
| 02:03.12 | drmessano | Please link them these |
| 02:03.13 | drmessano | Thx |
| 02:03.28 | Samot | $1 each |
| 02:03.32 | drmessano | They go well with HaxxoredPBX |
| 02:04.08 | voipmonk | i thought you were joking at $1 |
| 02:04.40 | voipmonk | ... which enables employees holding small hands free meeting freely |
| 02:06.50 | drmessano | YES |
| 02:07.10 | drmessano | ⢠Power adaptor protection avoid machine damage caused by error operation |
| 02:07.13 | drmessano | ^ My fav |
| 02:07.23 | drmessano | ERROR OPERATION |
| 02:07.48 | drmessano | I played that once when I was in college |
| 02:08.12 | voipmonk | sounds like you coulda got sued playing that game |
| 02:08.17 | drmessano | Thats basically where you play Operation but instead of the tweezers, you use your dong |
| 02:08.26 | drmessano | ERROR OPERATION |
| 02:08.26 | voipmonk | yep... see |
| 02:08.40 | drmessano | Also, mildly painful |
| 02:13.26 | drmessano | MUCH SIP TRUCKING |
| 02:32.55 | Samot | You heard Bobby Hennan passed? |
| 02:35.29 | drmessano | NO |
| 02:35.31 | drmessano | Damn |
| 02:35.39 | Samot | Sunday night |
| 02:36.43 | Samot | Organ failure from his long fight with cancer. |
| 02:37.31 | Samot | Flair just had that close call too |
| 02:40.53 | drmessano | and yet, Hogan lives |
| 02:41.10 | Samot | Yeah |
| 02:41.37 | drmessano | Hogan is like the Gene Simmons of WWE |
| 02:41.45 | Samot | Well.. |
| 02:41.58 | Samot | WWE has just started to use him again. |
| 02:42.09 | drmessano | Well |
| 02:42.12 | Samot | In the last six months |
| 02:42.17 | drmessano | Im sure that wasnt a hard decision |
| 02:42.26 | drmessano | He's a money printing machine |
| 02:42.27 | Samot | Not even him really, just his video packages. |
| 02:42.35 | drmessano | With a sex tape scandal |
| 02:42.47 | Samot | Oh he's barely featured but thrown in now |
| 02:42.54 | Samot | I don't know if he'll be back. |
| 02:44.03 | Samot | That is the one thing I respect about Shawn Michaels |
| 02:44.17 | Samot | He actually stayed retired. |
| 02:45.01 | Samot | Like he won't even take bumps or do any angle that involves it in any way. |
| 02:46.27 | Samot | The one guy I'd love to come back though, but sadly I don't want to come back because of the rider he would have. The Mouth of the South. |
| 02:47.20 | Samot | Hart & Hogan are business partners and best buds, so Hart coming back would mean Hogan rode the coat tails. |
| 02:55.30 | *** join/#asterisk CRCinAU (~CRCinAU@another.bloody.irc.session.from.crc.id.au) |
| 02:55.57 | CRCinAU | so I'm wondering.... I'm having problems staying registered with my SIP providers.... I have 2 accounts at 2 different providers.. (4 in total) |
| 02:56.14 | CRCinAU | I think I'm hitting some type of flood protection - as asterisk keep retrying with no response. |
| 02:56.35 | CRCinAU | however, it tries to register every couple of seconds. |
| 02:56.53 | CRCinAU | is there any way to back this off automatically? |
| 02:57.11 | CRCinAU | right now, my 'fix' is to stop asterisk for a minute or two, then restart it... which is somewhat sub-optimal.... |
| 02:59.51 | CRCinAU | I did try pjsip - and somewhat got that working with the timeouts changed... but I couldn't figure out how to do the insecure=invite for incoming calls - so all inbound stuff failed :\ |
| 03:01.28 | Samot | The registerretry is default 20 seconds |
| 03:02.06 | Samot | And you can add an expiry value at the end of the register string |
| 03:02.16 | CRCinAU | I'm guessing that under no response conditions, it sends multiple packets per try? |
| 03:02.50 | Samot | Not for a single register |
| 03:03.16 | CRCinAU | hrrrm |
| 03:03.18 | Samot | It tries and retries if needed |
| 03:03.36 | Samot | If you dont tell it how long to wait... |
| 03:03.38 | CRCinAU | cos I'm seeing 4 x register attempts in bunches at ~4 second intervals. |
| 03:04.02 | Samot | Have you disabled all but one? |
| 03:04.51 | CRCinAU | not for the moment - as I don't see this issue with a single outbound registration - hence why I think I'm hitting some kind of rate limit on the providers firewalls |
| 03:05.25 | Samot | Ok |
| 03:05.28 | Samot | I get that |
| 03:05.33 | Samot | You have a theory |
| 03:05.40 | Samot | Important that |
| 03:05.43 | Samot | Theory |
| 03:05.49 | Samot | Now prove it |
| 03:06.07 | Samot | Is one trunk sending multiple registers at once? |
| 03:06.25 | CRCinAU | systemctl stop asterisk && sleep 60 && systemctl start asterisk == everything registers fine. |
| 03:06.34 | Samot | Not that way |
| 03:06.45 | CRCinAU | but that's a nasty hack ;) |
| 03:07.02 | Samot | And ineffective |
| 03:07.30 | Samot | Nothing like dropping all your endpoints every 2 minutes |
| 03:07.45 | CRCinAU | yeah :\ |
| 03:08.53 | Samot | So troubleshoot this properly. |
| 03:09.32 | Samot | Does one trunk show the same behavior as when there are four? |
| 03:09.33 | CRCinAU | registerretry - is that a sip.conf option? My googles seem to lead me to a pjsip page... |
| 03:09.40 | Samot | Yes. |
| 03:09.58 | Samot | I don't know if that is the exact name |
| 03:10.20 | Samot | registertimeout |
| 03:10.48 | CRCinAU | yeah - there is that option, of which I have: registertimeout=120 |
| 03:11.35 | Samot | maxexpiry? |
| 03:11.50 | Samot | Like all of these are exampled in detail in the sample .conf files. |
| 03:11.59 | Samot | Which is in tar ball |
| 03:12.02 | Samot | Or on github |
| 03:12.56 | CRCinAU | yeah - I noticed the wiki seems somewhat bare for all but pjsip stuff |
| 03:13.16 | Samot | Because the sample files were the core documentation from the dawn of Asterisk |
| 03:13.24 | Samot | Before the wiki lived. |
| 03:14.00 | Samot | Even then, the actual individual settings and their meanings are more details in the pjsip.conf.sample than on the wiki |
| 03:14.12 | Samot | *detailed |
| 03:15.05 | CRCinAU | yup |
| 03:17.48 | CRCinAU | interesting - I changed to: qualify=no as a default - and that seems to have helped... |
| 03:18.00 | CRCinAU | I guess it no longer sends the OPTIONS packet all the time too |
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| 08:05.06 | v0lZy | hello |
| 08:05.36 | v0lZy | Anyone know of any SIP Trunk providers that service austrian phone numbers (need to transfer some austrian phone numbers from current provider) |
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| 08:15.21 | v0lZy | Anyone? |
| 08:17.32 | Chainsaw | I know UK ones and ZA ones. That's it. |
| 08:23.01 | v0lZy | I'm ok with a global provide,r as long as they can hold austrian numbers transfered to them from the current provider |
| 08:24.16 | v0lZy | I'm not sure about the general practices here... I imagine anyone wanting to take over a number fixed to a country has to have some kind of presence there. |
| 08:24.26 | v0lZy | or at least contract via some national agency? |
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| 12:33.53 | TheGallopingFox | i have bought a polycom 335, but the default admin password '456' does not work |
| 12:34.15 | TheGallopingFox | i tried booting holding down '1357' and entered the mac address but it still doesnt accept it? |
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| 12:47.51 | TheGallopingFox | figured it out by pressing cancel |
| 12:47.53 | TheGallopingFox | as it booted |
| 12:54.25 | TheGallopingFox | what version of firmware should i use from |
| 12:54.26 | TheGallopingFox | http://downloads.polycom.com/voice/voip/sip_sw_releases_matrix.html |
| 12:54.46 | [TK]D-Fender | the latest it supports. |
| 12:55.05 | TheGallopingFox | should i use 'Current GA Release' |
| 12:55.21 | TheGallopingFox | last update was 'Jun-2017' |
| 12:57.17 | Samot | http://support.polycom.com/content/support/North_America/USA/en/support/voice/soundpoint_ip/soundpoint_ip335.html |
| 12:58.40 | sekil | hi |
| 12:59.59 | [TK]D-Fender | 4.1.x looks like Lync only |
| 13:01.05 | Samot | Well the SoundPoints are officially EOL as of last year. |
| 13:01.38 | Samot | They're End of Support by 2019 |
| 13:01.48 | Samot | End of Sale at last Sept |
| 13:03.03 | Samot | Plus I thought the SoundPoints were up to the 5.x tree of firmware. |
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| 13:12.35 | TheGallopingFox | the down menu key is worn out on this phone :-( is it easy to replace keys on a polycom? |
| 13:13.40 | Samot | You'll have to find someone that does it |
| 13:13.51 | TheGallopingFox | dam |
| 13:15.37 | [TK]D-Fender | Nobody does it. |
| 13:17.04 | Samot | Those phones got for like $30 on Ebay barely used |
| 13:17.14 | Samot | It would cost more to replace the keypad |
| 13:28.42 | TheGallopingFox | i guess i could just press the up key to flip through contacts instead |
| 13:30.01 | [TK]D-Fender | up = speed dial, down = call history |
| 13:30.06 | [TK]D-Fender | very different |
| 13:30.17 | TheGallopingFox | ok ok |
| 13:30.22 | TheGallopingFox | luckily nobody calls me |
| 13:30.48 | TheGallopingFox | all i need to do is setup the provisioning server ftp details and i should be good to go |
| 13:30.56 | TheGallopingFox | i will use the web gui to do that |
| 13:31.47 | TheGallopingFox | i do like the lcd display on the 335 model |
| 13:31.52 | TheGallopingFox | nice and bright |
| 13:35.41 | [TK]D-Fender | Missing split/join unfortunately. Very disappointing... |
| 13:44.45 | TheGallopingFox | it worked!!! |
| 13:44.57 | TheGallopingFox | all i did was rename all the config files to the new mac address |
| 13:45.31 | TheGallopingFox | 10 years ago it would of taken me 3-4 days to figure that out |
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| 13:53.02 | Samot | 11 got another update? |
| 13:53.29 | Samot | Is this just more fixes to the RTP bleed that prompted the last update? |
| 13:54.46 | Samot | Cuz it just looks like RTP updates from the changelog.. |
| 13:59.52 | file | yes |
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| 14:10.03 | Samot | Cool. |
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| 14:10.25 | Samot | I just saw 11 got more love. |
| 14:11.03 | file | soon it won't get even that |
| 14:11.07 | Samot | I know. |
| 14:11.13 | Samot | Tick tock, tick tock |
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| 14:11.19 | Samot | 8 days |
| 14:11.27 | Samot | Or is it the end of Oct? |
| 14:11.53 | file | October 25th |
| 14:12.01 | Samot | Ahhh. |
| 14:15.05 | TheGallopingFox | i know have the G.722 codec, is that what polycom refer to as 'hd voice' ? |
| 14:15.08 | TheGallopingFox | *now |
| 14:15.26 | Samot | Yes and no. |
| 14:15.37 | Samot | Some of it is hardware. |
| 14:15.41 | TheGallopingFox | oh ok |
| 14:15.52 | Samot | Even g711 is crisper on Polycom VVX's. |
| 14:16.43 | Samot | Marketing wise... |
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| 14:16.59 | Samot | Phones that support g722 generally have HD slapped on it somewhere. |
| 14:21.10 | TheGallopingFox | but g722 can only benefit from internal calls |
| 14:21.37 | Samot | Or the ITSP that is willing to transcode for you |
| 14:21.46 | Samot | But overall, yes. |
| 14:22.35 | Samot | If it isn't ulaw/alaw, it generally only benefits you internally |
| 14:22.38 | TheGallopingFox | here in the UK, when a cellphone calls another cellphone, the voice can be really clear, is that because its using G.722 ? |
| 14:22.51 | Samot | g729/gsm slightly more. |
| 14:22.57 | Samot | It depends on the carrier's network |
| 14:23.02 | TheGallopingFox | oh ok |
| 14:23.21 | Samot | In general, the PSTN is ulaw/alaw |
| 14:23.28 | TheGallopingFox | yeah i thought so |
| 14:23.29 | Samot | With GSM/g729 support in there. |
| 14:23.31 | sekil | cellphones use gsm or amr |
| 14:23.59 | Samot | Now that doesn't mean Carrier A and Carrier B don't have an IP peer or something |
| 14:24.00 | sekil | although now I notice amr-wb as well |
| 14:24.08 | Samot | That does G722 between them. |
| 14:24.26 | Samot | It's how the carriers peer with each other that matter. |
| 14:24.50 | Samot | Sometimes carriers don't have direct peering and it has to take a couple hops. |
| 14:26.26 | Samot | And that is also a factor in your rate date. |
| 14:26.29 | Samot | er deck |
| 14:26.42 | Samot | The more paths needed, more $$ |
| 14:27.11 | Samot | We have that problem in the US with a carrier called Windstream. |
| 14:27.48 | Samot | They've made a place for themselves by being a "WAAAAY out in the boonies" carrier. |
| 14:28.53 | Samot | So calls to them are always higher due to the fact it has to actually hit the PSTN full on. |
| 14:28.59 | sekil | you mean they have presence when nobody else has |
| 14:29.00 | sekil | ? |
| 14:29.04 | Samot | Yeah |
| 14:29.06 | sekil | s/when/where |
| 14:29.22 | Samot | They own it all |
| 14:29.27 | Samot | It's their CO |
| 14:29.35 | Samot | Their copper. |
| 14:29.47 | sekil | ha |
| 14:29.49 | sekil | arkansas |
| 14:30.02 | Samot | Texas |
| 14:30.06 | Samot | New Mexico |
| 14:30.11 | Samot | All the rural states |
| 14:30.21 | sekil | verizon is not there? |
| 14:30.30 | Samot | Sure |
| 14:30.33 | Samot | Depends on the market. |
| 14:30.50 | Samot | I'm not talking like a Dallas or Houston |
| 14:30.53 | sekil | but is it true that many states/cities have single isp/carrier? |
| 14:30.56 | Samot | Or Phoenix |
| 14:31.03 | Samot | No. |
| 14:31.08 | Samot | Markets do |
| 14:31.26 | sekil | I meant one company owning copper/fiber |
| 14:31.36 | Samot | In some cases yes. |
| 14:31.50 | Samot | Because only a handful of companies originally built it |
| 14:32.05 | Samot | Mainly ATT |
| 14:32.10 | sekil | right...so they monopolized it.. |
| 14:32.23 | Samot | Not really. |
| 14:32.39 | Samot | That's why ATT help create the PSTN. |
| 14:32.53 | Samot | So that carriers in local areas could connect calls between them. |
| 14:33.13 | Samot | That is why it used to be "Local" and "Long Distance" service. |
| 14:33.20 | sekil | yeah yeah.. |
| 14:33.27 | Samot | ATT built the network that connected all the local carriers |
| 14:33.32 | Samot | Or part of it. |
| 14:33.35 | sekil | learned it all since university.. |
| 14:33.46 | Samot | Because before... |
| 14:34.05 | sekil | the great monopoly.. |
| 14:34.21 | Samot | Sally had to connect to Jane who knew Beth that could connect over to Ethel who knew Mary down in FL that had a line to Greta in LA |
| 14:34.22 | sekil | it's like a cycle really..in telco business... |
| 14:34.45 | Samot | ^^ That as an operator chain to connect a freaking call |
| 14:34.49 | sekil | you have great big company turning so big..so they break it ...and then those small companies eventualy merge back.. |
| 14:35.00 | Samot | If Ethel was out sick and no one took her place.. |
| 14:35.03 | sekil | and became gigantous.. |
| 14:35.07 | Samot | The call died at Ethel's connection. |
| 14:35.52 | Samot | Uhm. |
| 14:35.53 | Samot | Well |
| 14:36.10 | Samot | I get the monopoly thing... |
| 14:36.24 | Samot | But at the same time, I'm also a fan of VoIP being more regulated. |
| 14:37.02 | sekil | PSTN is dying anyway.. |
| 14:37.08 | Samot | Stop. |
| 14:37.10 | Samot | It is not. |
| 14:37.19 | Samot | Public Switched Telephone Network |
| 14:37.34 | sekil | really.. |
| 14:37.39 | Samot | It is a method in which carriers pass calls back and forth between them. |
| 14:37.49 | sekil | how much money do you pay for calls these days.. |
| 14:37.49 | Samot | HOW they do that, it's up to them. |
| 14:37.59 | Samot | You're missing the point. |
| 14:38.06 | Samot | The PSTN isn't copper or IP |
| 14:38.12 | Samot | It's a routing method. |
| 14:38.27 | sekil | yeah..which is dying.. |
| 14:38.35 | Samot | Uhm. |
| 14:38.35 | sekil | since skype/what'sapp/what not.. |
| 14:38.59 | Samot | So you're saying phone numbers are dying? |
| 14:39.15 | sekil | I'm saying old telco business is dying.. |
| 14:39.23 | sekil | that's clear as about as Sun |
| 14:39.33 | Samot | What is the "old telco" business? |
| 14:39.48 | sekil | things you just talked about.. |
| 14:39.52 | sekil | Ethel Mary etc. |
| 14:40.04 | Samot | You're confusing things. |
| 14:40.16 | Samot | Before people had to do it |
| 14:40.21 | Samot | Now software does it |
| 14:40.33 | sekil | ok..let me make myself clear.. |
| 14:40.35 | sekil | then |
| 14:40.42 | Samot | The PSTN is the backbone of how calls get between public providers |
| 14:40.46 | sekil | telco business ! as lucrative as before.. |
| 14:40.53 | sekil | that's what I'm saying.. |
| 14:40.56 | Samot | OK. |
| 14:41.03 | sekil | with all the IP what nots |
| 14:41.06 | sekil | nowadays.. |
| 14:41.09 | Samot | Many of them are pouring billions into IP |
| 14:41.25 | Samot | You realize that most ISPs don't deliver PRIs with copper much any more. |
| 14:41.37 | Samot | At least here. |
| 14:41.41 | Samot | Because like SIP |
| 14:41.42 | sekil | yes I know that.. |
| 14:41.50 | sekil | and I'm not talking about that at all.. |
| 14:41.56 | Samot | But that's Telco |
| 14:42.21 | Samot | Now if you are referring to old delivery methods |
| 14:42.32 | Samot | Or old business models, yes I agree with you |
| 14:42.34 | sekil | I'm saying old PSTN DID telephoning telco business is dying.. |
| 14:42.42 | Samot | Stop. |
| 14:42.45 | Samot | Please. |
| 14:42.47 | sekil | I can't make it any clearer than that.. |
| 14:42.55 | sekil | why should I stop anyhing... |
| 14:43.10 | sekil | it's a free chat room.. |
| 14:43.11 | Samot | You are confusing business and transports methods with what the PSTN and DIDs really are. |
| 14:43.29 | Samot | DIDs are the original IP space. |
| 14:43.30 | sekil | I'm not talking about transport at all.. |
| 14:43.39 | Samot | They tell the world where you are. |
| 14:43.46 | Samot | How to get a hold of you |
| 14:43.56 | sekil | actually there are other stuff nowadays.. |
| 14:43.57 | Samot | The break down of the DID format is very specific. |
| 14:44.04 | sekil | ENUM etc. |
| 14:44.09 | Samot | LOL |
| 14:44.14 | Samot | ENUM is dead |
| 14:44.18 | Samot | It's not a standard. |
| 14:44.24 | Samot | it's not happening with carriers. |
| 14:44.36 | sekil | you saw blockchain routing of telephony btw |
| 14:45.01 | Samot | sekil: Are you a consumer? |
| 14:45.18 | sekil | I'm saying..that's it not so lucrative business to put it mildly anymore.. |
| 14:45.22 | sekil | and I gtg |
| 14:45.24 | sekil | sorry.. |
| 14:45.29 | sekil | see you later.. |
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| 14:57.08 | Kalavera | hey guys, is there a way to record inbound calls coming by IAX? |
| 14:59.00 | Samot | Monitor, MixMonitor |
| 14:59.19 | Kalavera | Samot: can you give me an example pls? |
| 14:59.30 | Samot | What do you mean? |
| 14:59.50 | Kalavera | I have both sip and iax trunks |
| 14:59.51 | Samot | https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Application_MixMonitor |
| 15:00.00 | Samot | It doesn't care about the channel tech |
| 15:00.02 | Kalavera | most of the calls come by a sip provider |
| 15:00.10 | Samot | It just records the audio on the channel |
| 15:00.16 | Kalavera | but there is another asterisk that comes by iax |
| 15:00.28 | Kalavera | ok |
| 15:00.30 | Samot | It doesn't care about the channel tech |
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| 16:50.41 | TheGallopingFox | I have installed CSipSimple on my android phone WLAN, when i ring my internal polycom on LAN, i can speak on the polycom but when i speak on CSipSimple the polycom is silent but my own voice is coming out of CSipSimple |
| 16:50.45 | TheGallopingFox | strange |
| 16:53.46 | TheGallopingFox | i think i need stun |
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| 17:18.48 | TheGallopingFox | actually its just a 1 sided audio problem |
| 17:18.59 | TheGallopingFox | maybe something to do with NAT |
| 17:22.31 | fauxalliance | you don't need stun, fix your NAT SIP settings |
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| 17:30.36 | TheGallopingFox | got it working, needed to forward ports 5060 + 10000-20000 |
| 17:30.52 | TheGallopingFox | i thought everything travelled down 5060 only |
| 17:31.46 | fauxalliance | RTP, the workhorse |
| 17:32.59 | fauxalliance | TheGallopingFox: IAX/2 can forward everything over _one_ port, fwiw |
| 17:33.29 | fauxalliance | i use it for some strange softphones and nat issues |
| 17:36.09 | TheGallopingFox | i wonder if csipsimple supports iax |
| 17:50.22 | [TK]D-Fender | Look in the middle |
| 17:54.48 | fauxalliance | lol |
| 17:55.09 | fauxalliance | c SIP run, cSIP jump, |
| 17:55.23 | TheGallopingFox | i connected my android to my vpn, but the one way call has returned, that should not happen through a vpn |
| 17:55.26 | TheGallopingFox | strange |
| 17:56.07 | TheGallopingFox | pfsense openvpn for my LAN |
| 18:02.14 | fauxalliance | packet filter rock |
| 18:02.16 | fauxalliance | s |
| 18:02.26 | fauxalliance | iptables. meh |
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| 19:25.22 | RovingWriter | What do you guys use for screen pops? |
| 19:25.38 | Samot | Depends on the need |
| 19:25.43 | Samot | Generally FOP2 for the most part. |
| 19:25.49 | RovingWriter | like, to open a remote URL when an agent opens a call |
| 19:25.49 | Samot | But it doesn't work with PJSIP yet... |
| 19:25.56 | RovingWriter | i mean answers a call |
| 19:26.04 | RovingWriter | so each agent stays logged into FOP? |
| 19:26.06 | Samot | FOP2 |
| 19:26.09 | Samot | Yes. |
| 19:26.12 | RovingWriter | hmmm. |
| 19:26.17 | Samot | It's an Operator Panel |
| 19:26.23 | RovingWriter | yes I am familiar with it basically |
| 19:26.29 | Samot | You can monitor extensions, queues, parking lots |
| 19:26.43 | Samot | Trigger popups |
| 19:27.16 | Samot | Even open a mini browser when a call is answered |
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| 19:28.35 | Samot | I have happily give AsterNIC money for FOP2 and other stuff. |
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| 19:28.43 | Samot | It has been well worth it. |
| 19:28.49 | Samot | *given |
| 19:29.39 | Samot | It is the operator panel for my hosted voice platform. |
| 19:30.20 | RovingWriter | interesting. I'll give it a nother look. Checked out years ago when it was just FOP |
| 19:30.32 | Samot | I do queue wall boards |
| 19:30.46 | Samot | Ties into their queue stats. |
| 19:31.02 | Samot | They can pause/unpause members. |
| 19:31.11 | Samot | remove them from a queue |
| 19:31.13 | Samot | or add them |
| 19:31.37 | Samot | Monitor agents times and current status |
| 19:31.38 | RovingWriter | so, FOP2, Call Center Stats, and CDR reports, all different systems from AsterNIC? |
| 19:31.44 | Samot | Yes. |
| 19:32.26 | Samot | It was well worth the $800+ I put into it |
| 19:32.52 | Samot | They can even login/logout of their queues by logging into/out of the FOP panel. |
| 19:32.56 | RovingWriter | Yeah, I'm down to pay the $$, no worries. Just want to make sure it'll do what I want :) |
| 19:33.03 | RovingWriter | yeah, that's sweet |
| 19:33.18 | Samot | There are some downsides |
| 19:33.26 | Samot | Only works with Chan_ISP |
| 19:33.29 | Samot | Only works with Chan_SIP |
| 19:33.48 | Samot | And still uses Monitor vs MixMonitor |
| 19:34.30 | Samot | And can only use one Parking Lot for its "One Touch" parking in the GUI |
| 19:34.51 | RovingWriter | also, is the Cisco Unified IP Phone 7960G any good? |
| 19:34.55 | RovingWriter | I can get a bunch cheap |
| 19:34.58 | Samot | Uhm. |
| 19:35.00 | Samot | Don't. |
| 19:35.04 | RovingWriter | k, thats what i figured |
| 19:35.31 | Samot | Buy phones that aren't accessories for a phone system. |
| 19:35.41 | RovingWriter | yup |
| 19:35.45 | Samot | Like a specific system. |
| 19:35.48 | RovingWriter | I like the Yealink T29G's |
| 19:35.59 | Samot | I... |
| 19:36.06 | Samot | Actually have no qualms over those. |
| 19:36.11 | Samot | They're not that bad. |
| 19:37.07 | Samot | All the new hotels I'm doing, wanted Yealinks for the rooms. |
| 19:37.17 | Samot | Inexpensive and looked "pro" enough. |
| 19:37.34 | RovingWriter | yeah, I have 10 of them, and they are nice |
| 19:37.56 | RovingWriter | one thing I particularly like about them is, I can put the PBX behind firewall completely, and the yealinks can VPN into that network and then access the PBX |
| 19:38.50 | RovingWriter | its one more thing to "go wrong", but, its also nice not having the PBX exposed really. |
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| 21:46.22 | hdon | hi all :) what's the proper way to set up asterisk with its own user account? does it have any need to start as root and then drop privileges? |
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