| 00:09.30 | Kobaz | haha |
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| 00:42.04 | Samot | I went in to it pretty open minded and was hoping for it to be good and fun. |
| 00:42.15 | Samot | I enjoy games like that |
| 00:42.42 | Samot | But yeah, it was just bad. |
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| 01:18.57 | *** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.18.5 (2017/12/22), Standard: 15.1.5 (2017/12/22); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu |
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| 02:43.24 | znoteer_ | Despite your lack of interest in pulse dialling, [TK]D-Fender, you've provided a key leading me to an unhappy discovery. The dialler component of my rotary phone is not sending the proper pulses. I was able to tap out a phone number and have it ring the remote end with the hook-switch of my TT phone. Tried the same thing with the hook-switch of the old rotary dial phone and succeeded in making a call as well. But the rotary dialler will not succeed in ma |
| 02:56.27 | kitsune | What kind of test sets do you guys like? |
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| 03:47.44 | Kobaz | testy tests |
| 03:48.10 | Kobaz | kitsune: one with callerid |
| 03:48.43 | Kobaz | http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/fluke-networks/telcom-testers/telephone-test-butt-sets/pro-lcd-built-in-test-set-ts54-a-09-tdr.htm?ref=gbase&gclid=CjwKCAiAmvjRBRBlEiwAWFc1mJEXjlw9Td76aehgTuoVcXJhsQ-c9qJd4uhq3slf_rGDN17QzsjHURoCJcAQAvD_BwE |
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| 04:01.09 | kitsune | Ugh that is really cool. Expensive though. |
| 04:03.35 | Kobaz | you can get a basic one for like $90 |
| 04:08.02 | Kobaz | http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/ideal-networks/network-troubleshooting/lanxplorer/lanxplorer-pro-premium-r150001.htm |
| 04:08.13 | Kobaz | i think i'll wind up getting one of those next year |
| 04:08.27 | Kobaz | would have come in super handy at the last job |
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| 06:58.21 | [TK]D-Fender | znoteer_, sanity-check. Always. Glad you've found the answer at least. Maybe you can get it fixed |
| 07:12.39 | drmessano | Guess I dont see the point of $3000 testing tools unless you're providing some level of certification required by a government entity |
| 07:13.28 | drmessano | Always nice seeing techs show up a job site with a $500 test set when an old TS-22 will do |
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| 07:47.20 | Samot | Well the only next step for a butt set now is to put a sip client on it. |
| 07:47.31 | Samot | Otherwise, they're just really fancy. |
| 07:47.47 | Samot | The job of a butt set really hasn't changed over the years. |
| 07:56.34 | drmessano | I use my buttset for actual phone work maybe 2% of the time |
| 07:57.29 | Samot | My guy in NM uses a tone detector more that the butt set. |
| 07:57.48 | drmessano | I use my buttset for audio. |
| 07:57.55 | Samot | Right. |
| 07:58.14 | Samot | But 99% of the time he's just checking the 66 block for live tone. |
| 07:58.19 | drmessano | Sure |
| 07:58.30 | drmessano | I also have used my tone detector for the same |
| 07:58.33 | Samot | Since a lot of the hotels have poor markings for what is live to what rooms. |
| 07:58.38 | drmessano | Matter of fact, it's great for finding audio |
| 07:58.50 | drmessano | Sweeping across a bunch of 66 blocks |
| 07:58.52 | Samot | The butt set is for like you said, double checking audio if needed. |
| 07:58.55 | Samot | That's always fun. |
| 07:59.38 | Samot | All the cool sounds. |
| 08:00.19 | drmessano | IIRC, most of the guys i've spoken to that do DSL work are just fine with the Harris set that detects DSL.. the readout is useless |
| 08:00.32 | drmessano | So even $495 is nuts |
| 08:01.05 | Samot | Yeah... |
| 08:01.23 | Samot | Any currently made butt set is just fancy |
| 08:01.46 | Samot | Anyone that uses a butt set regularly would also go "Yeah, don't use half that shit" |
| 08:03.44 | Samot | The only reason to get a rotary phone working with Asterisk is for a fun hobby project. |
| 08:05.09 | Samot | I did some Googlin' on it.. |
| 08:05.38 | Samot | Even posts from almost 10 years ago all said the same thing pretty much, the older the phone the harder it was to make work. |
| 08:06.23 | drmessano | Yep |
| 08:06.35 | Samot | Because the wiring/engineering changed, oddly enough, in the early 60's when DTMF was now the forefront and pulse was being phased out. |
| 08:07.02 | drmessano | 60s? |
| 08:07.17 | Samot | Well dual-tone was introduced in the 40's... |
| 08:07.37 | Samot | But it wasn't until the early 60's when they started to phase pulse dialing out in places and as the core method. |
| 08:07.44 | drmessano | We didn't even have DTMF offered until the early 80s |
| 08:07.52 | Samot | Or when the push became big. |
| 08:07.53 | drmessano | and it was an extra fee |
| 08:07.57 | Samot | Right.. |
| 08:08.04 | Samot | But Dual-Tone has been around for a long time. |
| 08:08.19 | Samot | In the 60's they were going forward with dual-tone. |
| 08:10.00 | Samot | Perhaps my timelines are off a bit. I recall that dual-tone was either being tested or in conceptual design in the 40's.. |
| 08:10.20 | Samot | And in the early 60's DTMF was put in place and started to be rolled out.. |
| 08:10.25 | drmessano | I think you're off by 15 years or so |
| 08:10.33 | Samot | It did take almost 20 years for it to be the main though |
| 08:10.40 | Samot | I think that's where I'm off. |
| 08:10.51 | Samot | It wasn't until the 80's where it was a "subscriber" option. |
| 08:11.08 | drmessano | By 1979, the touch-tone phone was gaining popularity,[12] but it wasn't until the 1980s that the majority of customers owned push-button telephones in their homes; by the 1990s, it was the overwhelming majority. |
| 08:11.15 | Samot | I think where I screwed up is the push buttons... |
| 08:11.28 | drmessano | We couldnt even get DTMF until 83 or so |
| 08:11.35 | Samot | The earlier push button phones were still doing pulse.. |
| 08:11.37 | drmessano | and I was in the NYC metro |
| 08:11.50 | Samot | Right..the actual consumer roll out I was off on.. |
| 08:12.04 | Samot | Based on the rise of push button phones... |
| 08:12.11 | Samot | I forgot the earlier ones were pulse.... |
| 08:13.14 | Samot | I remember that in the 80's my grandparents still had a pulse phone... |
| 08:13.31 | Samot | But it had buttons.. |
| 08:13.39 | Samot | My other grandmother though... |
| 08:13.54 | Samot | She had an old crank phone still... |
| 08:14.19 | Samot | With the box that hung on the wall in the kitchen.. |
| 08:14.56 | drmessano | Well yeah, we had a couple phone with buttons using pulse dialing. When I moved into my grandparents house we got DTMF on our line, but my grandparents line was pulse. 2 of the 3 phones on their line were push button with pulse switched on |
| 08:15.04 | Samot | It was never hooked up, I don't think it actually worked anymore since it was generally considered a "grandkid toy" |
| 08:15.28 | Samot | But the inside was cool. |
| 08:16.57 | Samot | I really wish I was around when she moved out of her house and into the care facility/ |
| 08:17.46 | Samot | Because they threw away a lot of "old stuff" |
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| 10:54.02 | Milos | I have 3 separate accounts at 1 provider. Is it possible to set up Asterisk so that there is ONE connection to the provider, which SHARES the 3 accounts? i.e. the 3 outbound caller IDs? |
| 10:54.33 | Milos | I currently have 3 [blahpeer] entires in sip.conf each with their own username=...;fromuser=.... entries, which creates 3 separate peers in 'sip show peers' |
| 10:54.38 | Milos | Is that ideal? Or is there a better way? |
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| 10:55.16 | Milos | I'm able to do that fine for inbound calls, but when making outbound calls, if I only have one peer defined, I can't pick which outbound caller ID to use. So I had to go back to using 3 peer entries. |
| 10:55.20 | TheGallopingFox | is it normal for asterisk to use about 6-8% cpu when idle? |
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| 15:10.53 | davlefouAMD | Hi, is it better to use tls asterisk or vpn to have no problem with adls box? |
| 15:10.58 | davlefouAMD | adsl |
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| 18:24.30 | drmessano | davlefouAMD: What "problem" are you anticipating? |
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| 18:51.34 | Samot | Milos: The way you are setup is a provider thing. They gave you three SIP account/trunks. Are they setting the CallerID themselves based on the account that is used or are they letting you override/set the outbound CallerID yourself? |
| 18:51.59 | Samot | Milos: Because if that is the case then the CallerID is up to you to be set and it doesn't care which peer/trunk you use. |
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