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| 00:19.38 | *** topic/#asterisk is #asterisk The Open Source PBX and Telephony Platform (asterisk.org) -=- LTS: 13.21.0 (2018/05/01), Standard: 15.4.0 (2018/05/01); DAHDI: DAHDI-linux 2.11.1 (2016/03/01), DAHDI-tools 2.11.1 (2016/03/01); libpri 1.6.0 (2017/01/27) -=- Wiki: wiki.asterisk.org -=- Code of Conduct: bit.ly/1hH6P22 -=- Logs: bit.ly/1s4AKKu |
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| 03:54.14 | justaguy | hi, if func_callerid.so is loaded, then why is this happening when dailing (no callerid will be set) ? |
| 03:54.17 | justaguy | [May 13 03:48:14] ERROR[24587][C-00000018]: pbx_functions.c:699 ast_func_write: Function CallerID not registered |
| 04:01.14 | file | It is case sensitive. It has to be CALLERID |
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| 04:27.28 | justaguy | file: Oh :) Thank you |
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| 07:07.16 | bluez_ | hi guys |
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| 07:34.14 | bluez_ | *ringing |
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| 10:54.13 | WizJin | Hi people |
| 10:54.42 | WizJin | I am looking for some help regarding ViciDial, i have read it based on asterisk.. i couldn't find any channel for vicidial so thought this is the best place to ask |
| 10:55.14 | WizJin | I need use vicidial to make 30 concurrent outbound calls for marketing purposes.. now what SIP trunks will be most suitable for my needs ? |
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| 15:26.41 | drmessano | Spammer |
| 15:27.40 | Samot | Who? |
| 15:30.35 | drmessano | The Vicidial guy |
| 15:31.50 | Samot | How is he a spammer? |
| 15:32.09 | drmessano | 06:55:15 <WizJin> I need use vicidial to make 30 concurrent outbound calls for marketing purposes.. |
| 15:32.14 | drmessano | ^ SPAM |
| 15:32.21 | Samot | Oh I missed that |
| 15:32.25 | Samot | Yeah, totally. |
| 15:32.29 | drmessano | Death to robocall fucker |
| 15:32.31 | drmessano | Death to robocall fuckers |
| 15:34.32 | Samot | And you know what ITSPs/Telcos love? A high volume of termination with short duration's. |
| 15:37.00 | drmessano | Well |
| 15:37.28 | drmessano | But Samot, it shouldn't matter what Asterisk is being used for, it should only matter that we're here for the same thing |
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| 15:42.15 | Samot | What I find interesting, is that Vicadial's "consultants" page that lists US based consultants for them has about 95% failure for the websites. |
| 15:42.39 | Samot | Like 3 of the 14 work and one of those three still have Vicadial listed as an actual service. |
| 15:44.08 | Samot | I always have real confidence is a paid solution that links to distributors that no longer exist as the way to buy their software. |
| 15:47.01 | Samot | But it's good to know we've been helping him setup a spam box. |
| 15:47.13 | Samot | And we didn't even ask what he was doing. |
| 15:48.46 | Samot | drmessano: I'll probably just help him. I can't have another person saying I work with terrorists who are trying to bomb my country if I don't help them. |
| 15:49.25 | drmessano | Right |
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| 15:49.49 | Samot | I have to admit though, in all my years of doing this. That was the first time that every happened. |
| 15:50.20 | drmessano | Because I tend to think that my willingness to live in America and support our terrorist supporting agenda is the same as helping someone run an illegal Cuban WISP |
| 15:50.28 | drmessano | Potato, potatoe |
| 15:51.38 | Samot | I wonder if we could trick him into setting up vicadial to play Lenny recordings when they make outbound calls... |
| 15:51.48 | drmessano | hah |
| 15:51.50 | Samot | Let them think they made a real call. |
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| 15:52.52 | drmessano | But to be honest |
| 15:53.04 | drmessano | We should have done the #SmallBusinessSupport channel a while ago |
| 15:53.11 | drmessano | This would be a perfect project for it |
| 15:53.32 | drmessano | "Help us Help you run your business" |
| 16:01.34 | Samot | No kidding. |
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| 16:27.09 | TheDoudou | hi i find good fxo for one line (my asterisk run at rpi) you have idea ? |
| 16:27.35 | TheDoudou | SPA-3000 ? |
| 16:28.02 | drmessano | SPA-3000 is ancient SPA-3102 is a bit newer |
| 16:29.11 | TheDoudou | oki (can't see at amazon.fr) |
| 16:29.55 | drmessano | You won't |
| 16:29.58 | drmessano | Grab one from ebay |
| 16:39.17 | TheDoudou | k |
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| 16:52.57 | Samot | Wait a minute. |
| 16:53.06 | Samot | an RPI? |
| 16:53.21 | Samot | You're running Asterisk on a RasPI in a Container?! |
| 16:53.59 | Samot | TheDoudou: ^^^ |
| 16:54.41 | sibiria | the "in a container" part seems a bit constrictive - the pi itself, assuming it's not the old 256mb junk models, can get a lot done with asterisk |
| 16:54.48 | Samot | No. |
| 16:54.59 | sibiria | yes. |
| 16:55.04 | Samot | This has been a conversation in #freepbx for the last 30 minutes |
| 16:55.18 | Samot | Where he as Asterisk with FreePBX running in a Container. |
| 16:55.27 | Samot | He failed to mention this was on a RasPI |
| 16:55.54 | drmessano | HAHAHA |
| 16:56.03 | sibiria | if he runs it in a tight container with practically no RAM, it's a problem. the pi itself isn't |
| 16:56.15 | Samot | And wants to split them into two Containers and link them together. |
| 16:56.26 | sibiria | good luck |
| 16:56.31 | Samot | He wants Asterisk in Container A and FreePBX in Container B and wants to link them. |
| 16:56.34 | Samot | All on an RasPI |
| 16:56.44 | drmessano | I'd say that's indeed a problem |
| 16:56.51 | Samot | The RasPI was the only think he left out. |
| 16:57.05 | sibiria | i run asterisk on a 512mb ARM-based SBC. it works very well for quite some load. some things are obvously out of the question |
| 16:57.27 | Samot | But do you have it in a Container? |
| 16:57.31 | drmessano | I think you're missing the part about RPI AND Containers |
| 16:57.42 | Samot | You're not "virtualizing" your RasPI OS |
| 16:57.43 | drmessano | Not sure how you don't see that as a problem |
| 16:58.07 | sibiria | virtualization isn't an impedance these days as much as it were 10 years ago. his main problem is memory constriction |
| 16:58.17 | Samot | And also, Container. |
| 16:58.18 | drmessano | Virtualization on a Pi? |
| 16:58.31 | sibiria | drmessano: yes? ARM has hardware based virtualization support |
| 16:58.37 | sibiria | with practically zero overhead |
| 16:58.43 | Samot | This would be better in a KVM if you insist on virtualization on a RasPI. |
| 16:59.29 | drmessano | I guess I am stuck in my ways of building things that make sense |
| 16:59.45 | drmessano | I can't see deploying multiple virtual PBXs on a Pi |
| 16:59.49 | sibiria | that depends on what he's doing. if the container isn't virtualized (f.e. a BSD jail, or openvz container), he will avoid even the tiny neglibible overhead of virtualization |
| 16:59.52 | drmessano | But whatever floats your boat |
| 17:01.13 | sibiria | there are containers and there are containers, and then there are virtual machines. what does he use? maybe he doesn't know himself :) |
| 17:01.38 | sibiria | freebsd jails are containers with no overhead besides a small amount of added disk storage |
| 17:01.44 | Samot | Well, he posted links to the Docker site about how he set this up |
| 17:01.50 | sibiria | no performance impairment or additional memory requirements |
| 17:01.52 | Samot | So I'm going with virtualized Containers. |
| 17:01.55 | Samot | Vs. KVM |
| 17:01.56 | sibiria | yea i figured docker |
| 17:01.58 | drmessano | If he's running FreePBX he's clearly not using FreeBSD |
| 17:02.00 | drmessano | So, next |
| 17:02.11 | sibiria | it was but one example |
| 17:02.18 | drmessano | Im not going with examples |
| 17:02.22 | drmessano | He's stated facts |
| 17:02.37 | sibiria | the limited memory is his main problem, and, well, there's not much of that to go around on even the new Pis |
| 17:02.39 | Samot | Asterisk running in a Container? Sure. |
| 17:02.42 | Samot | I wouldn't do it. |
| 17:02.48 | Samot | But FreePBX running in a Container is bad. |
| 17:03.01 | Samot | Trying to run them in two Containers and linking them, even worse. |
| 17:03.13 | drmessano | Arguing academics for hours is so much fun, but he's clearly defined actual parameters which can't be ignored |
| 17:03.27 | Samot | Doesn't matter if it's a Ras PI or not. |
| 17:06.28 | TheDoudou | Samot: yep it's work fine :) |
| 17:06.53 | Samot | But I told you why you haven't run into problems yet. |
| 17:07.03 | TheDoudou | rpi3 |
| 17:07.11 | Samot | You installed Asterisk, so yeah that could run in a Container with no issues. |
| 17:07.15 | Samot | Not sure, never done it. |
| 17:07.34 | TheDoudou | work fine with 9 tel |
| 17:07.40 | TheDoudou | (all conf) |
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| 17:07.46 | Samot | However, in regards to FreePBX. You did the most basic install of it. Which amounts to a bunch of web forms that control Asterisks' configs. |
| 17:08.07 | Samot | If you try to use things in FreePBX that do more than that, you are going to run into an issue. |
| 17:08.36 | Samot | Because FreePBX was designed and developed with KVM as the virtualization option. |
| 17:08.39 | Samot | Not Containers. |
| 17:08.48 | Samot | FreePBX needs complete write access to the OS. |
| 17:08.55 | Samot | At all levels. |
| 17:09.05 | Samot | Not just the ability to read certain things. |
| 17:09.25 | TheDoudou | samot in container contain all os (debian based) |
| 17:09.51 | Samot | Containers do not give write access to everything |
| 17:10.01 | Samot | Certain parts of the OS are read only. |
| 17:10.10 | Samot | It's not a high enough level of control that FreePBX needs. |
| 17:10.22 | Samot | FreePBX literally has its own OS variation. |
| 17:11.01 | Samot | It's based on CentOS/RHEL depending on the version. |
| 17:11.47 | drmessano | Honestly, the best thing you can do right now is resign |
| 17:11.51 | TheDoudou | k ;) need centos image base |
| 17:12.10 | drmessano | That's not what he said |
| 17:12.25 | TheDoudou | drmessano: bof docker is compiled for armv7 |
| 17:12.40 | TheDoudou | work fine with raspbian |
| 17:13.35 | TheDoudou | after need armhf (it's slow) or armv7 (it's better) |
| 17:14.04 | TheDoudou | (for asterisk i recompil it in container with cisco patch) |
| 17:14.08 | Samot | OK, I'm going to say it one more time. What you are trying to do is not recommended, suggested or should be considered. It may work "fine" now but when it's no longer working "fine" you are in a setup that offers zero support. |
| 17:14.31 | Samot | None. |
| 17:14.52 | Samot | You'll ask in #freepbx and the developers and engineers of FreePBX are going to say "Don't use Containers" |
| 17:14.55 | drmessano | My understanding is that Docker is even considered on an RPI for distributed applications, not cramming a bunch of containers onto one RPI |
| 17:14.58 | drmessano | So whatever |
| 17:15.26 | drmessano | Tomato, Tomatoe |
| 17:15.33 | TheDoudou | Samot: for freepbx |
| 17:15.42 | Samot | Right |
| 17:15.53 | Samot | Which was part of your scope for this project. |
| 17:16.07 | Samot | Asterisk in one container, FreePBX in another container. Link them together. |
| 17:16.29 | TheDoudou | drmessano: the most important are the resources used by the container |
| 17:17.12 | drmessano | You're doing it wrong |
| 17:17.15 | TheDoudou | Samot: yep |
| 17:17.26 | Samot | Why aren't you just using the RasPI distro of FreePBX? |
| 17:17.29 | Samot | I think there is one. |
| 17:17.37 | TheDoudou | raspbx ? |
| 17:17.43 | Samot | Yes. |
| 17:17.47 | TheDoudou | cause need other stuff |
| 17:17.51 | Samot | OK |
| 17:17.53 | Samot | Stop. |
| 17:17.56 | drmessano | So buy another Po |
| 17:17.57 | drmessano | So buy another Pi |
| 17:18.01 | drmessano | They're like $35 |
| 17:18.08 | Samot | FreePBX, Container or KVM cannot run on a system doing "other things" |
| 17:18.27 | TheDoudou | one can support asterisk with 2 tel and homebridge |
| 17:18.31 | Samot | FreePBX IS an OS level application. It wants to OWN the system. |
| 17:18.49 | drmessano | I'll check back in at hour 10 of this argument |
| 17:18.50 | Samot | It literally needs to do stuff at root levels. |
| 17:18.52 | drmessano | bbl |
| 17:18.59 | Samot | I need to go to the store. |
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