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15:19.13dymHey guys! I have a question. Running Asterisk 13.1.0 on a public host for exchange with PSTN. Firewall limited accesss incoming but i still get a lot of open INVITES in "sip show channels" like these: https://pastebin.com/raw/FJU0GMfP
15:19.41dymHow is it possible for 62.210.84.142 to issue an INVITE?
15:19.55dymI cannot find anything on logs regarding this.
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15:21.39sibiriabecause your firewall isn't limiting access, simply. otherwise 62.210.84.142 wouldn't reach you
15:22.08SamotAnd why are you running a 4+ year old release?
15:22.32SamotOf a current LTS version?
15:24.40dymfigured it out
15:24.44dymrogue firewall rule
15:24.59dymSamot: Because it ships with Ubuntu 16.04
15:25.04dym(yes, needs update too.)
15:25.57SamotOK, so do you leave Apache, PHP, MySQL, etc on the same versions?
15:26.01SamotOr did you update them?
15:26.40dymSamot: Im confused. I try stay current with the repository updates.
15:27.05SamotI'm asking are things on current versions?
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15:27.19SamotOr are they on 4+ year old versions?
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15:28.14sibiriaubuntu surely should be on a newer subversion than 13.1
15:29.15dymhttps://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=asterisk&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all
15:31.39sibiriaoh xenial. i guess that explains it
15:32.02dymIt does say so above too.
15:32.33SamotIt's a package that got wrapped into Ubuntu.
15:32.45Samot4+ years ago and it seems no one has maintained it since.
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15:33.21SamotNumerous bugs, flaws and security holes have been patched since 13.1
15:35.47dymSamot: Thanks for the hint. OS Updates are on the todo
15:36.11SamotHow old is this system?
15:36.18dymThen again, bionic also only has 13.18.3
15:36.34dym(Current Ubuntu LTS)
15:37.52sibiriano love for the ol' *
15:38.15dymThe system? Samot System is from Apr 2018
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15:38.43dymsibiria: as it seems.
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15:41.04SamotWell considering that Asterisk is a "universal" package it's not considered part of the main/base stuff needed for Ubuntu.
15:41.36SamotThose packages are only maintained and updated during the initial maintenance timeframe.
15:42.18dymAnd just out of curiosity Samot - do you selfcompile all the components to have bleeding edge versions on a regular basis?
15:42.33SamotWhat do you mean by "bleeding edge"
15:42.40SamotHaving a current release of a STABLE version?
15:43.00SamotIt's not like I'm running around using nightly builds.
15:43.07SamotOr Alpha or beta releases.
15:43.14dymhttps://www.asterisk.org/downloads/asterisk/all-asterisk-versions
15:43.18SamotSTABLE
15:43.21SamotDude STABLE.
15:43.23dym13 is still listed LTS and current.
15:43.30SamotRight but it's 13.25
15:43.37SamotLTS: 13.25.0 (2019/2/15)
15:43.51SamotSomeone downloads the source and installs it today, they are on the current version.
15:43.58SamotNot 13.0.0 and have to update to the current.
15:44.06SamotThat's not bleeding edge.
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15:44.34dymWell, i guess 13.18.3 is better than 13.0.1
15:44.56SamotI also don't run 13 anymore.
15:44.58SamotI run 16.
15:45.03SamotIs that bleeding edge?
15:50.52dymYou seem offended.
15:50.55dymWhy is that?
15:53.21[TK]D-FenderYou're running a very outdated versions of an outdated branch and seem worried about "bleeding edge".  He's got a somewhat understandable "WHAT?" reflex...
15:53.53[TK]D-Fenderstick with * 16 current releases and generally they're all as stable as the next
15:56.16dymIt's what the os repositories provide as a stable version. Are there dedicated Debian/Ubuntu repositories, or would the more current versions all have to be selfcompiled?
15:57.12filethe project does not provide Debian/Ubuntu repositories as of this time
15:57.20[TK]D-Fender^
15:57.23[TK]D-FenderWas just typing it
15:57.43dymshame
15:57.48[TK]D-FenderSo compile your own and keep an eye out for updates
16:00.20dymAre 13.0.1 configurations all compatible to 16? Or are there any major things to consider?
16:01.34sibiriaone or two things but it's nothing earth-shattering
16:02.20sibiriathe changelogs for the major revisions from 13 to 16 aren't too much to take in quickly
16:04.03[TK]D-Fenderupgrade.txt more than "changelog"
16:04.10[TK]D-Fenderfor the important stuff.
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16:10.52igcewielingSales: for when you are no qualified for anything else.
16:11.03igcewielingSorry, my bitterness is showing again.
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16:29.52Samot10:50:53 AM <dym> You seem offended. <-- I was not offended.
16:30.15SamotHowever, referring to current and stable releases as "bleeding edge" is ignorant.
16:45.46Ubikigcewieling: Yeah, and of course the whole sales vs. engineering thing that goes on most places. :P
16:46.54igcewielingUbik: as far as I can tell ours are worse.
16:47.31Ubikigcewieling: lol.. yeah, gotta reign in the sales guys sometimes
16:47.43SamotThis is what Sales Engineers are for.
16:47.46SamotDo you not have those?
16:47.52igcewielingreign them in?   No.  Force them to learn something.
16:48.04SamotDo you not have Sales Engineers?
16:48.08igcewielingSamot: apparently not.
16:48.19SamotWell it wouldn't be hard to know if you did.
16:48.28Ubikdon't let sales touch anything engineering related, that never goes well :P
16:48.39SamotIt's someone(s) from the Engineering dept that works with Sales.
16:48.46SamotNo.
16:48.51SamotYou pair an engineer with sales.
16:48.53igcewielingI know what it is.  No, we don't have one.
16:48.57Ubikusually I'll find out about the wilder shenanigans and step in and go spec out what needs to be spec'd
16:49.06Ubikbefore disaster strikes
16:49.08SamotIt solves a lot of these issues.
16:49.18igcewielingSamot: yes, it would.
16:49.32SamotA suggestion to bring to the table then.
16:49.47UbikProbably. I'd end up doing most of that (which is fine.)
16:49.49igcewielingI do that every month or two..
16:52.15SamotI do with every sales perspective.
16:54.02UbikMost of our sales guys have learned to not try to sneak stuff past Engineering at this point.
16:54.11UbikUsed to be horrible about that kind of thing.
16:56.29igcewielingSales doesn't like to talk to me because the answers I give are not the ones they want.     I don't like sales because they could not troubleshoot themselves out a wet paper bag.
16:56.42UbikSame here.
16:57.15UbikAfter a few good incidents of egg on their face with large clients (because they promised out-of-this-world stuff without consulting with Engineering, and then when the system was implemented, 80% of what sales promised wasn't there, and never will be.)
16:57.27UbikThey got their act together.
16:58.06UbikEngineering ain't gunna sugar-coat stuff, sorry. :)
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17:03.36checheWhen using /usr/sbin/dahdi_genconf to get a quadBRI PCI ISDN Card working. I am getting group and context duplicate. https://pastebin.com/vtKgQCbD
17:04.05checheAsterisk does not pickup the DIgital line. The analog seems to work fine.
17:04.54checheWhen execute dahdi show status the cards seems ok
17:04.54Samot11:56:29 AM <igcewieling> Sales doesn't like to talk to me because the answers I give are not the ones they want.     I don't like sales because they could not troubleshoot themselves out a wet paper bag. <<-- It's not their job to.
17:05.10[TK]D-Fendercheche, show us  the failed call debug.
17:05.11SamotThat's like a sales guy going "I hate engineers because they can't sell crap"
17:05.13[TK]D-Fender~pb
17:05.13infobotit has been said that pastebin is a web-based service where you should paste anything over 3 lines so you don't flood the channel. Here are links to a few: http://pastebin.ca, http://channels.debian.net/paste, http://paste.lisp.org, http://bin.cakephp.org/; or install pastebinit with yum or aptitude.
17:05.15[TK]D-Fender^
17:05.30SamotSo you don't like them because they can't do a job that's not in their scope?
17:05.43[TK]D-Fendercheche, Along with proof of the channels that actually got loaded
17:06.37cheche[TK]D-Fender: https://pastebin.com/6bZxuyr6 I am not sure if this is a proof
17:07.02[TK]D-Fender"dahdi show channels"
17:07.51cheche[TK]D-Fender: "dahdi show channels"  https://pastebin.com/WxfkXww5
17:08.23cheche[TK]D-Fender: thank you
17:08.41[TK]D-Fendercheche, "pri debug span X" for the span we're going to look at and go place a call to it
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17:15.09cheche[TK]D-Fender: pri set debug 2 span5 https://pastebin.com/vSHw2T7f
17:16.01[TK]D-Fenderthat is all you get over an extended period of time?
17:16.14[TK]D-Fender"core set verbose 10"
17:16.28[TK]D-Fenderretest and if it you see anything more re PB it
17:24.44cheche[TK]D-Fender: error on /var/log/asterisk https://pastebin.com/TnwK2uSg
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17:39.29cheche[TK]D-Fender: I have got a new error, is that ok to delete some private numbers?
17:41.02[TK]D-Fenderplease don't
17:41.19[TK]D-Fenderpassword the PB and set an expiry if you much and PM it
17:41.33[TK]D-Fendermust*
17:44.31cheche[TK]D-Fender: https://pastebin.com/nLDRJbnx
17:45.11[TK]D-Fenderuse * CLI with verbose 10 as I mentioned
17:45.14[TK]D-Fenderno "logs"
17:47.33cheche[TK]D-Fender: sorry, but I think that it did. is there a way to output the console logs?
17:48.39cheche[TK]D-Fender: I this is what I get when make a phone call https://pastebin.com/GJ1zgec4
17:49.26cheche[TK]D-Fender: I did change signalling = bri_cpe_ptmp to bri_cpe
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18:24.02[TK]D-FenderShow me you're actuall connecting to * cli and issuing both of those commands along with the full call attempt though the endo f call & disconnecting from CLI
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19:40.46csguthdoes anyone work with pjsip here?
19:41.01csguthbut pjsua2, not asterisk
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21:03.42cheche[TK]D-Fender: seems like a problem with dialplan. I am trying to reduce the dialplan to minimum... How can I disable "Context 'demo' created by 'pbx_lua'" ?
21:04.10[TK]D-Fendernoload => it in your modules.conf if you don't need it ...
21:04.39cheche-- Span 5: Extension 923XXXXXX@default does not exist.  Rejecting call from '923XXXXXX'.
21:05.37[TK]D-FenderYou should never be using [default] as a context.  Fix your configs that point there and make sure you create an exten to match what the call comes in like
21:07.10cheche[TK]D-Fender: sorry. I will put back context=from-pstn
21:07.53checheCan anyone point me to a simplified version of setup dial plan?
21:08.11[TK]D-FenderJust anywhere other than [default]  This is used in a few places when you actually didn't configure antyhing explicit at all and is a poor security decision.  You should always end up in contexts you explicitly configure.
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21:14.27dymSamot: "referring to current and stable releases as "bleeding edge" is ignorant." <--- i never did. Because i did not know how current you kept your installations. That was your assumption.
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23:18.39Kobazso i have a box down to its knees handling 130 sip packets per second
23:18.58Kobazand 7-12 active calls
23:19.00Kobazwhat the heck
23:21.46igcewieling"ISP Windstream Files For Chapter 11 Bankruptcy After Being Hit With $310 Million Judgement"
23:22.57Kobazholy
23:23.06Kobazwhat did they do
23:23.08Kobazor.... not do?
23:23.31sibiriasell internet in the face of comcast/at&t/other crooks?
23:23.50igcewielinghttp://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/125685/windstream-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy
23:34.22salviadudKobaz, tell us more about your box that's getting squeezed.
23:34.30salviadudWhat version is it running?
23:36.44Kobaz1.8.12   and 6 cores on a vmware  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2637 v4 @ 3.50GHz
23:45.38KobazI up'd the sip rate limiting on this box, now blocking about 120 SUBSCRIBES/sec
23:45.47Kobazload seems a little better
23:56.00SamotWhy are you blocking subscribes?
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23:59.46Kobazreduce load, it definitely made a difference
23:59.57Kobazwell i'm not blocking all subscribes, just any subscribes more than 15/sec

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