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00:24.12lwlvlis there a way to use hints via a iax-connection without doing any extra-stunts like scripts that use the agi of the remote-server?
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05:41.52Sladehm, twilios new sip trunking prices seem pretty competitive. https://www.twilio.com/console/sip-trunking/overview
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15:37.33avblet me gyess, 1c per minute? :)
15:37.36avbSlade:
15:40.05SamotNo. Lower than that. They've dropped costs.
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15:45.15SladeSamot, and thats essentially the same as flowroutes offering right?
15:45.44Sladeassuming same quality of service, etc
15:45.59SamotThey are lower.
15:46.19Sladeoh sorry.i mean its essentially the same service
15:46.33Sladeflowroute still has cheaper SMS
15:49.57SamotAre you doing more SMS than voice?
15:50.16SamotAnd are you doing more MMS vs SMS? Local vs Toll Free?
15:51.13SamotIs $0.004 better than $0.0075 when it costs your $0.012 inbound vs $0.0045 inbound?
15:51.33SamotOr $0.0098 vs $0.0075 outbound?
15:51.56SamotSure you're saving money on your SMS for the most part but you're paying more for everything else.
15:53.49SamotI just recently dropped our "Unlimited Toll Free" offering because when I did the math....
15:54.11SamotThe end users that had it were paying 90% over what they actually used.
15:54.55SamotNow sure that's high profit for me but then again, I have to pay fees/surcharges/tax on that MRC.
15:57.28Sladeyea. i've got 2 competing interests. inbound and sms :P
15:57.47Sladeand of course flowroute could retaliate and lower their prices too
15:58.01SamotThey did, they added tiered levels.
15:58.08Sladeoh
15:58.32SamotThat's new for them. So once you have a level of MRC with them prices drop considerably.
15:59.23avbok, let me register to see
15:59.30avbcant believe that they offer 0.004
15:59.51SamotTwilio? On some things they do.
15:59.57avbwell
16:00.00avbon some
16:00.08avbim talking about no-bs rates
16:00.11SamotWell again, that's retail.
16:00.21avbon 'some' some does 0.001
16:00.43Sladetheir 'programmable' voice is even cheaper than flowroutes low level
16:01.06avbthat what i mean, a company who is offering wholesale services at a retail prices :)
16:01.29avbwith a normal traffic you can easy get 0.003
16:01.52avbfrom guys with experience, and not from hipsters
16:02.31SamotI'm not sure what that means.
16:03.35avb"with a normal traffic you can easy get 0.003"
16:03.44avbi think thats been a keyword from what i have said :)
16:03.47SamotWhat is normal traffic?
16:03.59SamotMy normal traffic isn't the same are your normal traffic.
16:04.12avbyou are always far from normal buddy ;)
16:04.27avbnormal traffic means not a 10k minutes per month volume
16:05.35avbPay-as-you-go Elastic SIP Trunking pricing: termination Starting at
16:05.35avb$ 0.0070
16:05.44avborigination $ 0.0045
16:05.48SamotRight.
16:05.48avbhttps://www.twilio.com/sip-trunking/pricing/us
16:05.54avb(facepalm)
16:05.58SamotThat's what he linked to.
16:06.02SamotOriginally.
16:14.52Sladeavb, not a fan?
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16:33.31SladeSamot, are you pretty origination heavy with your model eh
16:39.56SamotNot my model.
16:40.07SamotJust the type of customer base.
16:41.12SamotThe hotels are origination heavy.
16:41.34SamotEither they accept all calls directly and redirect reservations to corporate
16:41.59SamotOr they do that PLUS corporate is routing calls to them for reservations.
16:42.15SamotOr reservation follow up.
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16:53.21Sladeso twilios probably a good provider in that case.  tho maybe not enough to justify a migration
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17:11.22SamotDidn't you just move to Flowroute?
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21:11.36mluggHi, I have a PJSIP endpoint set up, and am using an AOR with a `contact` property. This property is a domain name (specifically, `sip:voiceless.aa.net.uk:5060`), but for some reason it's resolving its IPv4 address rather than its IPv6 address, which is causing issues as the transport for the endpoint is set as an IPv6 one. Does anyone have any idea why it's only resolving the v4 address?
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22:00.23Kobazwhaaaat the friggin fracks
22:01.46Kobazooooooh
22:01.47Kobazi get it
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22:26.54Sladehm thats a scary api.. i hope that really isnt all the message  https://developer.flowroute.com/api/messages/v2.1/receive-an-sms/
22:30.44Kobazthat looks typical
22:34.27SladeKobaz, wait, what?
22:34.37Kobazall the data
22:34.42Sladeno...
22:34.43Sladehow do you know its legit?
22:34.48Kobazthat looks like a typical postback
22:34.53Kobazdefine 'legit'
22:35.20Sladehow do i know that this message came from flowroute, and not KobazTheRussianSpy
22:35.31Kobazip addresses
22:35.49Kobazflowroute will deliver you messages from a set number of ips
22:35.55Kobazif they don't have that in the docs, ask tech support
22:35.57Kobazalso
22:36.04Sladeah, thats acceptable too
22:36.11Kobazhere's another way, and a method i use for extra goodness
22:36.25Kobazis, my postback url is 1) HTTPS, 2) Contains a token in the url
22:37.17Kobazso, tell flowroute to deliver messages to https://yourdomain/process_sms_service?secret_token=c996dd038ffad5b7a3f7a245f84b4b81&
22:37.43Kobazand only accept messages that match that exact thing
22:38.01Kobazhandy way to make random passwords: date | md5sum
22:38.22Sladehandy enough . the ip thing helps
22:39.05Sladethen i've gotta figure out where to stuff it :)
22:40.08Sladeprobably some github project out there already that'll take and let you chat with the sms messages.
22:40.36Kobazi wrote all that already
22:40.49Kobazwe have a web based sms chat, and a sms broadcast 'dialer'
22:41.05Kobazsupports templates (mail-merge style) and all that
22:41.14Sladeyea the web based sms chat is what i was going to look up
22:41.54Sladefor starters tho i'm just going to implement OTP
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