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| 04:30.22 | SwK | who's leading asterisk dev now? |
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| 13:59.23 | velix | For six users, I'd like to run a telephone conference. Do I need SIP trunk for this or can I do it with six existing VoIP accounts? |
| 14:09.48 | drc | if they can call into your asterisk, they can conference |
| 14:10.20 | drc | whether that's via a trunk, separate voip accounts, isdn cards or whatever doesn't matter |
| 14:10.38 | velix | drc: Sorry, I'm just a Asterisk beginner, but I'll grow in the next days. |
| 14:10.58 | velix | drc: So I just can add 6 accounts in there and set it up and I'm done? |
| 14:11.07 | drc | no problem, Asterisk can be overwhelming. We've all been there. |
| 14:11.41 | velix | drc: What about performance? |
| 14:11.43 | velix | I mean |
| 14:11.44 | drc | basically, yeah. then add an extension for a confbridge and have the users call that extension |
| 14:11.52 | velix | is a core2duo fast enough for this? |
| 14:12.01 | velix | Or does it need high-end stuff ? |
| 14:12.14 | drc | not for 6 users |
| 14:12.28 | velix | I think, my RPi is too little for this :D |
| 14:12.33 | drc | that is, it should be fast enough for 6 users |
| 14:12.56 | velix | Interesting. I've got many older i3 and i5 computers from office. |
| 14:13.01 | velix | 4-5 years old. |
| 14:13.09 | velix | Is RAM more important than CPU ? |
| 14:13.14 | velix | or CPU more than RAM? |
| 14:13.25 | velix | Sorry for asking noob questions. |
| 14:13.49 | drc | with <10 users, basically everything will do. |
| 14:14.03 | drc | transcoding needs CPU, as does conferencing |
| 14:14.36 | velix | Let's say a 4 year old i5. |
| 14:14.40 | velix | how much COULD it do? |
| 14:16.13 | drc | depends a lot on what the users are doing. several hundred accounts, no problem. several hundred users in a conference, probably not |
| 14:18.44 | drc | as a rule of thumb: any recent server should be enough for the telephony needs of a medium-sized business, unless you're running a call center or something |
| 14:19.14 | velix | I'm working at a new research lab at university. Our problem is: there are no hard wires to the university network, so we have to use another ISP. |
| 14:19.22 | velix | It's connected via VPN to University network. |
| 14:19.32 | velix | There we can get the VoIP accounts from, but no trunk as it seems. |
| 14:19.52 | velix | We've got 8 users, which need to phone in paralle. |
| 14:19.56 | velix | parallel* |
| 14:20.23 | velix | So, a NO to hundret accounts :D |
| 14:20.32 | velix | But once a week, we want to make a conference call ;) |
| 14:20.53 | drc | And your university doesn't have conference rooms? |
| 14:21.29 | drc | I'd setup the VoIP accounts on the phones directly and let them deal with running the PBX |
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| 14:22.15 | velix | It's hard to make the IT guys what we want... so we would like to run the telephone IT on our own. |
| 14:22.30 | velix | Since we're a sub department, we've lower than low priority. |
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| 14:25.41 | velix | drc: Sorry for asking: it's not possible without a special VoIP account to have a call-in at ONE number, is it? |
| 14:27.20 | drc | Sorry, not exactly sure what you're asking. But what you do with calls in your Asterisk is totally up to you. As long as they reach you, that is. |
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| 14:30.06 | velix | I mean, I'd love to have ONE phone-number, where multiple users can call into for a conference. I think, this has to be a special account, which allows parallel incoming calls. |
| 14:30.35 | hensema | that's quite standard in voip |
| 14:31.10 | velix | hensema: okay, I'll ask the IT department |
| 14:31.11 | hensema | the phone decides to indicate busy to the server. the server will happily connect multiple calls |
| 14:35.17 | Samot | velix: You are a department in a University? |
| 14:36.21 | velix | Samot: let me look for the right term, 1 sec |
| 14:37.00 | velix | We're a research lab, an own department, which has been split from the university, but the research is done together. |
| 14:37.04 | velix | It's pretty complicated :D |
| 14:37.18 | velix | it's a "fork" :D |
| 14:37.51 | velix | We can get basic IT support from the IT, but can't buy advanced one. So we have to do it all on our own. |
| 14:38.08 | Samot | OK, so they don't supply you with voice already? |
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| 14:40.56 | velix | Yes, with single accounts. |
| 14:41.06 | velix | But no special services, like conferencing. |
| 14:46.59 | Samot | So would you be looking to use those phones or would you need your own? |
| 14:47.15 | Samot | I've done quite a few Uni's, they can be particular. |
| 14:47.26 | velix | I'd love to use their accounts and run it in our own Asterisk. |
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| 15:25.00 | SwK | hey guys whois leading asterisk dev noe? |
| 15:25.04 | SwK | now* |
| 15:25.52 | file | cresl1n, reachable at creslin@digium.com |
| 15:27.01 | mvanbaak | ut-oh |
| 15:27.26 | SwK | ohhai file |
| 15:27.32 | file | hola |
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| 16:39.02 | Kobaz | so anyway... i made a post |
| 16:39.05 | Kobaz | https://community.polycom.com/t5/VoIP-SIP-Phones/Custom-certificates-Mutual-TLS-and-Soundpoint/m-p/105522#M26290 |
| 16:39.31 | Kobaz | Samot: from my testing, it really just seems like polycom flat out will not send a device certificate to a self signed server |
| 16:39.40 | Kobaz | although i have not yet tried with an official ca |
| 16:39.55 | Kobaz | it might be that mutual tls is just completely broken alltogether |
| 16:40.38 | Samot | So these are SoundPoint IP line of phones? |
| 16:40.41 | Kobaz | which wouldn't susprise me.... LLDP was broken in the out of the box firmware, and still didn't work right for many releases |
| 16:40.42 | Samot | 335, etc, etc? |
| 16:40.42 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 16:40.51 | Samot | Don't expect anything from them on that. |
| 16:40.57 | Kobaz | i know :( |
| 16:41.00 | Samot | Those went EOL a year or so ago. |
| 16:41.03 | Kobaz | but, they might give it a poke |
| 16:41.56 | Kobaz | well |
| 16:42.01 | Kobaz | they are still supported until dec 2019 |
| 16:42.05 | Kobaz | so, i'm just hoping for the best |
| 16:43.34 | Samot | Yes but there hasn't been a firmware update for those phones in about a year I think. |
| 16:43.43 | Kobaz | it's been a while |
| 16:43.46 | Samot | Because those are on the 4.x UC. |
| 16:43.47 | Kobaz | yeah i doubt they would push new firmware |
| 16:43.58 | Kobaz | but maybe there's some secret config that makes it all work |
| 16:44.06 | Samot | So unless there is a majority security flaw, I think they'll ride out the next 4 1/2 months |
| 16:44.18 | Samot | True, someone in the community might have an answer. |
| 16:45.07 | Samot | Oh wow, more than a year ago. 2016. |
| 16:45.16 | Samot | I didn't realize they stopped them that far back. |
| 16:45.46 | Kobaz | yeah end of sale 2016 |
| 16:51.48 | Kobaz | weeeeel |
| 16:51.55 | Kobaz | most of our soundpoints are on-prem anyway |
| 16:52.12 | Kobaz | and all this device validation stuff isn't as critical... but still would be nice |
| 16:52.33 | Kobaz | if this works on vvx then i'll be pretty happy |
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| 17:01.36 | Kobaz | my inkling is that it would work with an official ca |
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| 19:34.14 | SwK | Kobaz they have some cool new VVX firmwares from the Obihai team since they were aquired by polycom. And they are doing more more rapid iterations of the obi version of the firmware also. |
| 19:49.48 | Samot | Perhaps the Obi release has to grow on me but meh. |
| 19:50.05 | Samot | I'm using the x50 series but just no the Obi ones. |
| 19:50.17 | Samot | *not |
| 19:54.25 | SwK | Samot you know you can cross flash the firmwares on there |
| 19:54.37 | SwK | its the exact same hardware just an obi build for it |
| 19:54.44 | Samot | I know. |
| 19:54.49 | SwK | I think it might be a diff partnumber at order just for the diff in firmware |
| 19:54.53 | Samot | I have a few Obi ones. |
| 19:55.03 | Samot | Like I said, they have to grow on me. |
| 19:55.20 | Samot | Which means, I still need to play around with them more. |
| 19:55.26 | SwK | I like some of the automation they added in so you can trigger things on the phone |
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| 19:56.21 | Samot | And that's why I have to play with them more. |
| 19:59.20 | SwK | I need to bug SC some more on that stuff... the Obi guys are pretty cool if you havent met them at one of the conferences |
| 20:00.24 | Samot | Well honestly, I use Polycom/Yealinks. |
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| 20:00.34 | spatel | Hello folks |
| 20:00.39 | Samot | Yealinks have an API and so far I haven't had a need for it. |
| 20:01.32 | spatel | I am trying to configure this senario using WebRTC - browser --- WSS (SDP with SAVPF) ---> OpenSIPS ---- SIP (SDP with SAVPF) ---->Asterisk |
| 20:02.27 | spatel | Getting error from asterisk REJECT - SAVPF SDP |
| 20:02.48 | spatel | I have enable webrtc client in pjsip.conf |
| 20:03.19 | spatel | I am using opensips as front end for webRTC and media will handle at asterisk |
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| 23:31.39 | skeetmanager | hello i am having trouble with my te131 and the dchan bouncing |
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| 23:37.08 | skeetmanager | what am i doing wrong here |