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| 14:54.38 | igcewieling | "Verizon Media Launches OneSearch, a Privacy-Focused Search Engine" Odd, I didn't think it was April 1. |
| 14:55.48 | sibiria | did google stop cooperating with NSA suddenly? |
| 15:01.03 | Samot | Naw. |
| 15:01.28 | Samot | It's a cash in on DuckDuckGo actually having traction, my guess. |
| 15:02.16 | Samot | Which would be hilarious because based on what I've seen DuckDuckGo results. |
| 15:03.48 | Samot | But Verizon doing is just as funny. |
| 15:04.02 | Samot | Because it's not like Verizon isn't tracking stuff. |
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| 15:35.19 | jsmith | Samot: Well, you have to understand... this division of Verizon is the one that bought AOL and Yahoo... |
| 15:35.51 | jsmith | Samot: So it's really just the Yahoo search team launching a new search engine powered by Bing, that promises not to use cookies to track you (but does set a cookie) |
| 15:36.40 | jsmith | Samot: This from the same company that used to inject a custom HTTP header in all HTTP web requests from their customer's cell phones, with a unique tracking ID. |
| 15:46.36 | cybrNaut | FYI folks, DDG is /partnered/ with Verizon/Yahoo/AOL |
| 15:46.57 | cybrNaut | DDG pays Yahoo (and Bing) for search results |
| 15:47.08 | cybrNaut | DDG also gets its ads from Yahoo |
| 15:48.37 | cybrNaut | note as well that Verizon/Yahoo is a notorious privacy abuser who has been caught /voluntarily/ spying for the NSA. Verizon has also been caught twice violating their privacy policy, and they were fined for it. |
| 15:49.37 | cybrNaut | so DDG is not good for privacy, contrary to popular misconception |
| 15:51.52 | cybrNaut | Verizon is figuring if the general public is naive or apathetic enough to look the other way with DDG, they can probably pull off the same shit |
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| 16:13.56 | Samot | As I was saying, a cash in. |
| 16:14.45 | Samot | People are overly concerned about privacy these days and if you throw enough figures and buzzwords at them about it they'll buy into it. |
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| 16:15.58 | Samot | This is also how PBX installers end up setting up Joe's Doughnut Shack on IPv6/TLS/VPN/IPSEC. |
| 16:16.03 | Samot | drmessano: ^^^^ |
| 16:18.35 | drmessano | Using SLDAPS at their secure backend |
| 16:18.52 | drmessano | But yeah |
| 16:19.31 | drmessano | We've entered a bizarre era of |
| 16:19.53 | drmessano | "I need a super secure phone that the MAN can't snoop, because privacy" |
| 16:19.56 | drmessano | But also |
| 16:20.32 | drmessano | "Google: How can I grow weed and not get caught [search]" |
| 16:20.36 | drmessano | AND also |
| 16:20.49 | drmessano | "Alexa, where can I buy some weed and not get caught" |
| 16:21.19 | drmessano | and that's the techs, not even gonna comment on end users |
| 16:21.20 | Samot | Ahh Canada. |
| 16:21.36 | Samot | Not only can you order it online, 2 hr delivery. |
| 16:21.55 | Samot | With notifications and tracking app. |
| 16:22.35 | Samot | Even loyalty programs! |
| 16:23.08 | joepublic | I know some people who could retire on their points if there was a weed loyalty program here |
| 16:24.05 | drmessano | I have no problem with smoking, buying, or growing the stuff |
| 16:24.09 | drmessano | My issue is |
| 16:25.38 | drmessano | Techs acting like they IPv6 + TLS + SRTP because (1) why even bother making calls if they're not obscured and encrypted, and (2) Asterisk+FreePBX should make this the MOTHERLOVING DEFAULT because it's 2020, yo |
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| 16:26.39 | drmessano | But yet they're cavalier about anything else |
| 16:27.08 | drmessano | Idk though, maybe whats worse is the same guys at the other extreme, DDG 4 life |
| 16:27.37 | drmessano | I DONT CARE IF I CANT FIND ANYTHING, AT LEAST THEY CANT FIND ME |
| 16:28.10 | drmessano | Freakin Yolo |
| 16:28.36 | Samot | Yup. |
| 16:28.37 | joepublic | perhaps some techs are in fact smoking some of the other. |
| 16:29.50 | Samot | joepublic: No, there is this belief held by some that every mom and pop place out there needs TLS calling to stop MiTM attacks and spying. |
| 16:30.07 | joepublic | I guess that's what I meant. |
| 16:32.19 | drmessano | Samot: But to be fair |
| 16:32.33 | drmessano | Im going to be really fair here |
| 16:33.49 | drmessano | In regards to Lanny, he was taking shady customers from the Peoples Republic of Democratic Communist Tongpodia |
| 16:34.08 | drmessano | So they probably need TLS+SRTP+IPv7 |
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| 22:25.56 | seanbright | anyone here speak portuguese well/fluently? |
| 22:28.34 | jsmith | seanbright: I can read it fairly well, but when I try to speak Portuguese, Spanish comes out... |
| 22:28.51 | jsmith | seanbright: I wouldn't say I'm fluent, though... |
| 22:29.18 | seanbright | was looking for someone to confirm https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-25285 |
| 22:30.27 | jsmith | seanbright: That looks correct to me. |
| 22:30.47 | jsmith | seanbright: There shouldn't be any difference between Portugal Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese with that phrase. |
| 22:31.40 | seanbright | alrighty, could you make a note on the issue to that affect and i will get a patch ready? |
| 22:34.27 | seanbright | or i can add a note, whichever. |
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