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| 01:28.35 | mattwj2002 | how is everyone doing? |
| 01:28.41 | mattwj2002 | I have a serious question |
| 01:28.56 | mattwj2002 | Anyone know of a number for Antarctic? |
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| 01:47.04 | Lenore | is that a serious question? lol |
| 01:50.55 | mattwj2002 | Lenore, it is |
| 01:51.09 | Lenore | no idea :) |
| 01:51.12 | mattwj2002 | I have called every continent besides Antarctic |
| 01:51.31 | mattwj2002 | +672 country code |
| 01:51.34 | mattwj2002 | I am giving up |
| 01:51.46 | mattwj2002 | I found a voice mail |
| 01:51.59 | mattwj2002 | http://www.antarctica.gov.au/living-and-working/family-and-friends/introductory-package/communicating-with-antarctica-by-phone-and-email |
| 01:52.09 | mattwj2002 | that is the best site I could find on the entire Internet |
| 01:52.54 | mattwj2002 | quite honestly contacing the ISS is easier |
| 01:53.01 | mattwj2002 | *contacting |
| 01:55.05 | Lenore | need a ham license for the ISS lol |
| 01:55.20 | mattwj2002 | once again.... easier :P |
| 01:55.34 | Lenore | true |
| 01:55.42 | mattwj2002 | assuming the technician level would work |
| 01:56.03 | mattwj2002 | on a good day I could pass it without studying |
| 01:56.10 | Lenore | unless you're building your own equipment anyway, sure. |
| 01:56.33 | mattwj2002 | Lenore, networking is my passion and my background |
| 01:56.45 | Lenore | cool. i'm a radio engineer ;) |
| 01:56.59 | mattwj2002 | I have an Associate in Computer Network and a Bachelor in Telecommunication Systems |
| 01:57.07 | mattwj2002 | Lenore, oh man so smarter than me? :P |
| 01:57.18 | mattwj2002 | I am just messing |
| 01:57.22 | Lenore | haha i didn't say that. just pointing out how lame it is that i don't have a ham license ;) |
| 01:57.30 | mattwj2002 | lol |
| 01:57.43 | mattwj2002 | Lenore, be nice to yourself and at least buy an SDR |
| 01:57.52 | mattwj2002 | assuming you don't have one |
| 01:58.02 | Lenore | haha i design SDRs for a living. |
| 01:58.07 | mattwj2002 | oh okay :) |
| 01:58.16 | Lenore | ... although i don't have one at home. |
| 01:58.16 | mattwj2002 | anything under $25? :P |
| 01:58.21 | Lenore | not even close, no |
| 01:58.26 | mattwj2002 | no worries |
| 01:58.31 | mattwj2002 | I have $15 one |
| 01:58.38 | Lenore | much more in the $ifyouhavetoask |
| 01:58.44 | mattwj2002 | lots of enjoyment in playing with it |
| 01:58.49 | mattwj2002 | haha |
| 01:58.52 | Lenore | yea, they can be pretty fun |
| 01:58.59 | mattwj2002 | 1090 Mhz |
| 01:59.03 | mattwj2002 | on man! |
| 01:59.13 | mattwj2002 | especially being so close to MSP |
| 01:59.13 | Lenore | i've never been in this channel before... but i'm setting up a little pbx at home. |
| 01:59.30 | mattwj2002 | Lenore, I am not a regular in this channel |
| 01:59.36 | mattwj2002 | rpi or server grade? |
| 01:59.55 | Lenore | old rackmount server. dual core xeon from... ages ago. |
| 02:00.03 | Lenore | err dual socket xeon sorry |
| 02:00.06 | Lenore | quad cores each :) |
| 02:00.10 | mattwj2002 | honestly I am sure a Pentium 4 would work |
| 02:00.14 | Lenore | sure |
| 02:00.21 | Lenore | well it's my household server. |
| 02:00.22 | mattwj2002 | rpi 3b+ definitely work |
| 02:00.37 | mattwj2002 | Lenore, tell me more |
| 02:00.42 | Lenore | yea... my biggest problems have all been with Mitel documentation. |
| 02:00.48 | mattwj2002 | mitel??? |
| 02:00.48 | Lenore | asterisk itself is proving pretty easy to figure out |
| 02:01.00 | Lenore | yes, i have a bunch of 5320e phones. |
| 02:01.01 | mattwj2002 | asterisk is better than Cisco Call Manager |
| 02:01.05 | mattwj2002 | imho |
| 02:01.17 | Lenore | no idea, never used the cisco product. |
| 02:01.22 | mattwj2002 | at least it is free and open source |
| 02:01.26 | mattwj2002 | I haven't in ages |
| 02:01.41 | mattwj2002 | literally 10 years ago |
| 02:01.51 | mattwj2002 | well that is on a regular basis |
| 02:01.58 | Lenore | got a bunch of the phones for cheap, and an old obi110 (which was new when i got it... but never got around to setting it up) |
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| 02:02.05 | Lenore | decided now would be a good time to get it all working |
| 02:02.25 | mattwj2002 | asterisk loves sip and iax (other options of course) |
| 02:02.39 | Lenore | heh i haven't done anything network-related in a professional capacity in ... 20 years now? a bit rusty lol |
| 02:02.48 | Lenore | yep, the phones i have are all dual-mode |
| 02:02.49 | mattwj2002 | lol |
| 02:02.53 | Lenore | switched them to sip and they work fine |
| 02:02.59 | mattwj2002 | 20 years ago? wtf? I started tech school 20 years ago :P |
| 02:03.08 | Lenore | remote provisioning was a pain to set up, as was paging... undocumented or poorly features are awesome. |
| 02:03.11 | mattwj2002 | literally down to the year |
| 02:03.20 | mattwj2002 | dual mode? |
| 02:03.31 | Lenore | yea, either mitel's proprietary protocol or sip |
| 02:03.33 | Lenore | so i set them to sip |
| 02:03.49 | mattwj2002 | yeah sip and you are golden for the most part |
| 02:03.56 | mattwj2002 | dtmf can be a pain I know |
| 02:04.02 | mattwj2002 | 4 standards? |
| 02:04.04 | Lenore | yea i used to do some computer techniciany stuff to pay for engineering school lol |
| 02:04.13 | mattwj2002 | :) |
| 02:04.17 | mattwj2002 | how techie? |
| 02:04.27 | Lenore | how do you mean? |
| 02:04.30 | mattwj2002 | like how do I operate a web browser for people? |
| 02:04.43 | mattwj2002 | senior citizen circa 1999 |
| 02:04.43 | mattwj2002 | :P |
| 02:04.54 | mattwj2002 | sorry I am goofing around a bit |
| 02:04.55 | Lenore | oh, no... mostly linux server admin, network config... also just general computer maintenance. got an A+ cert way back then ;) |
| 02:05.16 | mattwj2002 | nice are you an A+ lifer? |
| 02:05.19 | Lenore | back when you still had to know how to diagnose an IRQ conflict and work with DOS. |
| 02:05.28 | mattwj2002 | haha such Windows 3.11 |
| 02:05.36 | mattwj2002 | neat |
| 02:05.43 | Lenore | don't even know what that is :) |
| 02:05.49 | Lenore | hah win 3.11 i remember that. |
| 02:05.50 | Lenore | wfw :) |
| 02:06.49 | mattwj2002 | first pc os was either win3.0 or win3.11 |
| 02:06.57 | mattwj2002 | I had DOS 6.22 back in the day |
| 02:07.02 | mattwj2002 | keep in mid I was born 1981 |
| 02:07.07 | Lenore | these days i tend to work a few layers down the stack. designed a few CPUs, built and manufactured a computer at the board level... digital radio protocols at the office... etc. :) |
| 02:07.07 | mattwj2002 | *mind |
| 02:07.16 | Lenore | heh we're not much different in age. |
| 02:07.30 | mattwj2002 | stack? |
| 02:07.39 | mattwj2002 | do you mean ISO? |
| 02:07.41 | Lenore | i just got into computers really early. Commodores :) |
| 02:07.50 | mattwj2002 | Crap 80 |
| 02:07.52 | mattwj2002 | aka |
| 02:07.53 | Lenore | no, just the general metaphorical principle. |
| 02:08.16 | mattwj2002 | Tandy TRS-80 Color Computer 2 16k/64 of memory |
| 02:09.01 | mattwj2002 | general metaphoical principle? |
| 02:10.06 | Lenore | of the layers of technology. |
| 02:10.22 | Lenore | now rather than computer technician stuff, i work at the gate level. that sorta thing :) |
| 02:10.35 | mattwj2002 | oh! |
| 02:10.40 | mattwj2002 | yeah yeah |
| 02:10.48 | mattwj2002 | sorry computers are nothing but layers |
| 02:10.49 | mattwj2002 | :P |
| 02:10.55 | mattwj2002 | in many ways |
| 02:10.57 | Lenore | hehe pretty much |
| 02:11.14 | mattwj2002 | gate as in nand gates? |
| 02:11.22 | Lenore | hardware designers try to abstract the hardware to an instruction set... compiler writers try to abstract the instruction set from programmers... |
| 02:11.24 | Lenore | yes |
| 02:11.42 | mattwj2002 | okay cool |
| 02:11.54 | mattwj2002 | I remember learning about logic circuits in college |
| 02:14.25 | Lenore | anyway, i still like to play with networks sometimes, when i get a chance |
| 02:14.29 | Lenore | and setting up these SIP phones has been fun |
| 02:14.43 | mattwj2002 | honestly I kind of suck at ipv6 |
| 02:14.52 | mattwj2002 | and the addresses are way too long |
| 02:15.08 | mattwj2002 | a ton of special addresses and what not |
| 02:15.20 | mattwj2002 | anycast and such too |
| 02:17.44 | mattwj2002 | truth be told |
| 02:18.07 | mattwj2002 | I don't think they finalized a lot of ipv6 when I first started my post high school education |
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| 02:18.32 | Lenore | i don't remember. i've never had much call to set up ipv6 |
| 02:18.55 | mattwj2002 | me either |
| 02:19.06 | mattwj2002 | automatic or off usually |
| 02:19.15 | Lenore | especially since everyone sortof realized the problems with having every device addressable and routeable. imagine having every IoT device on the internet? yikes, no. |
| 02:19.18 | jjrh | once you have ipv6 you really miss it unless you're one of those lucky folks with a v4 allocation |
| 02:19.33 | jjrh | Lenore: you can still do ipv6 nat |
| 02:19.34 | mattwj2002 | hence off :) |
| 02:19.36 | Lenore | true |
| 02:19.47 | jjrh | but you should really just secure your stuff |
| 02:19.57 | Lenore | i just mean... NAT was the half-way solution that ended up delaying the widespread rollout of ipv6 |
| 02:20.03 | mattwj2002 | jjrh, such dhcp? |
| 02:20.18 | jjrh | ? |
| 02:20.35 | mattwj2002 | are you talking about ipv4 dhcp? |
| 02:20.46 | Lenore | i mean, i used to be in the "just secure your stuff" camp, and i do when dealing with, say, Linux computers... |
| 02:20.55 | Lenore | ... but these days there are just so many untrusted firmwares on an average network |
| 02:21.02 | Lenore | i don't have time to ghidra them all |
| 02:21.29 | jjrh | no - I mean if you're relying on IoT stuff being secure because it's behind a NAT you probably should just secure it on the hardware or with a firewall |
| 02:21.33 | mattwj2002 | firmwares not being trust is also referred to don't trust china |
| 02:21.39 | mattwj2002 | *trusted |
| 02:22.15 | Lenore | plenty of firmware written in other places that isn't trustworthy |
| 02:22.23 | Lenore | my Mitel phones try to phone home on boot. |
| 02:22.32 | mattwj2002 | true Lenore but that isn't necessary what I am talking about |
| 02:22.33 | Lenore | ... i put them in a non-routable subnet because i don't trust them lol |
| 02:22.43 | mattwj2002 | I am not talking about accident flaws |
| 02:22.57 | mattwj2002 | I am talking about nsa/china spying not trusting crap |
| 02:23.16 | Lenore | honestly, being spied on by the chinese government is the least of my concerns. ;) |
| 02:23.23 | mattwj2002 | lol |
| 02:23.23 | mattwj2002 | ok |
| 02:23.25 | Lenore | but i don't want my network turning into botnet central |
| 02:23.36 | mattwj2002 | NSA spies just as much if not more in the USA |
| 02:24.37 | Lenore | anyway... i'm just saying, an average IoT device doesn't receive firmware updates at all, and often has known flaws that never get fixed |
| 02:24.51 | Lenore | some good talks on vulns in average IP cameras out there |
| 02:24.59 | Lenore | wide open in a lot of cases lol |
| 02:25.13 | Lenore | really have to close the network around them, so that bad actors can't reach them in the first place. |
| 02:25.17 | jjrh | Well that whole IoT botnet was basically cameras and IoT devices that were horribly insecure |
| 02:25.44 | Lenore | and that problem is probably just going to keep getting worse |
| 02:25.50 | jjrh | Mirai botnet I think? |
| 02:25.56 | Lenore | sounds about right. |
| 02:26.08 | Lenore | also tons of cameras on shodan just streaming their view to the world lol |
| 02:26.16 | jjrh | I mean that's just bad defaults :P |
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| 02:26.27 | Lenore | lol yea, that's true |
| 02:26.46 | jjrh | Remember when wifi routers either had a default password or no password at all? |
| 02:27.03 | Lenore | there was a defcon talk about looping cameras like hollywood, or something... that actually found exploits in a wide range of vendors' products |
| 02:27.05 | Lenore | including some good ones |
| 02:27.09 | Lenore | hah oh god. |
| 02:27.31 | mattwj2002 | I have a thought |
| 02:27.46 | mattwj2002 | jjrh and Lenore think and answer this question |
| 02:28.04 | Lenore | anyway, NAT is a good first line of defense. not a whole solution, but defense in depth :) |
| 02:28.18 | mattwj2002 | how many cameras and mics in your home? (including security cameras, cell phones, tablets, computers, etc) |
| 02:28.46 | mattwj2002 | and how many are connected directly or indirectly online |
| 02:29.02 | Lenore | fewer than most... mostly using desktop computers, don't have a cellphone, keep my tablet turned off for months at a time, don't have an echo or whatever... |
| 02:29.02 | jjrh | Lenore: NAT just created more problems than it solved and securing stuff was just a side effect that could have been fixed with sane firewalls. |
| 02:29.30 | mattwj2002 | jjrh, NAT is a good safety net though |
| 02:29.38 | mattwj2002 | IPV6 has it |
| 02:29.44 | mattwj2002 | though not needed usually |
| 02:29.53 | Lenore | jjrh: yea i can buy that position. easy enough to block all access to internal addresses even if they're externally addressable. |
| 02:30.24 | jjrh | So much stuff doesn't work with NAT and we got a whole bunch of hacks to get around that |
| 02:31.13 | Lenore | some of which should never have been a thing... glares at upnp |
| 02:31.16 | mattwj2002 | SIP cough cough SIP |
| 02:31.35 | Lenore | haha i'm trying to carefully avoid having sip leave my network ever. :) |
| 02:31.39 | mattwj2002 | though you don't have to open ports for sip |
| 02:31.43 | jjrh | If we had wide spread IPv6 a lot of the time we wouldn't even need to go out the PSTN - I would just call you directly. |
| 02:31.44 | mattwj2002 | a lot of people do |
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| 02:35.02 | jjrh | On the camera/mic question I have 4 right now 2 laptops and 2 phones |
| 02:35.39 | jjrh | oh maybe 5 since I have a ps vita on my desk here |
| 02:35.45 | jjrh | I think that has a mic and camera |
| 02:36.23 | Lenore | i got my smart tv right before they decided to add those functions to most of them. |
| 02:36.34 | Lenore | ... speaking of things i should really move to another network... |
| 02:38.12 | jjrh | a new isp? or ? |
| 02:38.45 | Lenore | no, just another isolated subnet or vlan, so it can't talk to my lan computers. |
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| 03:25.01 | igcewieling | https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/04/frontier-botches-redaction-reveals-952000-potential-network-problems/ |
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| 06:56.38 | samuelrajan747 | Guys |
| 06:56.54 | samuelrajan747 | I've a personal asterisk setup |
| 06:57.57 | samuelrajan747 | I can do one-to-one voice/video calls |
| 06:58.48 | samuelrajan747 | I don't know how to setup video conference. |
| 06:59.21 | samuelrajan747 | Please help me |
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| 17:35.18 | file | configure two transports |
| 17:35.35 | file | there's no need to set a transport on an endpoint generally |
| 17:35.40 | muks | i can add 2 transport sections to pjsip.conf, but what is the syntax to configure a single endpoint with both? |
| 17:35.44 | muks | oh |
| 17:38.12 | muks | commented out transport= from the endpoint now. thank you for the tip |
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