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| 00:34.35 | FuriousGeorge | is there a mobile sip client that anyone would like to recommend? zoiper seems popular on ios and android |
| 00:44.11 | Samot | Bria. |
| 00:45.48 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: i guess that's what we'll go with. it seems even the paid version of zoiper is pretty rudimentary |
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| 00:55.10 | Slade | today I feel like this troubleshooting my coding style. https://i.pinimg.com/236x/33/fb/06/33fb067593a2a949e349a4e899c508d3--programming-humor-o-reilly.jpg |
| 01:02.28 | igcewieling | Slade: that is velix's style. |
| 01:02.54 | velix | What? |
| 01:03.21 | velix | ah yeah. but it worked. |
| 01:03.32 | Slade | sometimes :/ |
| 01:03.43 | velix | I only needed to kill some kittens |
| 01:03.54 | velix | but they'd have died of covid anyways. |
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| 02:08.48 | FuriousGeorge | asterisk is running as root, and i'm able to send mail from the cli using msmtp, but when I leave a voicemail nothing happens. not so much as a log entry. it's as if it's not trying. i changed the mailcmd=/usr/bin/msmtp (with and without -t) |
| 02:09.12 | FuriousGeorge | msmtp is supposed to be fairly compatible with sendmail, so I'm not quite sure what I'm forgetting to do |
| 02:12.12 | drmessano | Guess you need to pastebin your voicemail.conf so we can see whats actually configured |
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| 02:12.28 | FuriousGeorge | good idea |
| 02:14.59 | Samot | Also, why are you running asterisk as root? |
| 02:20.06 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TqnWrb9yCq/ |
| 02:21.01 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: not sure. just noticed. i did a make config when done compiling, but it's not using the systemd unit either, instead the old sysvinit, which im guessing is why |
| 02:22.01 | Samot | Then you didn't edit the startup script to use something else. |
| 02:22.50 | Samot | serveremail=asterisk |
| 02:22.51 | Samot | serveremail=info@myemail.com |
| 02:23.57 | drmessano | Yeah that |
| 02:24.10 | Samot | And which log isn't there an entry in? |
| 02:24.35 | FuriousGeorge | i defined /var/log/msmtp as the logfile in /etc/msmtprc |
| 02:24.45 | FuriousGeorge | and when i send from cli, i do see a log entry there |
| 02:24.58 | Samot | OK that doesn't prove that Asterisk isn't trying to send it. |
| 02:25.03 | Samot | So first, let's check that. |
| 02:30.23 | FuriousGeorge | i eliminated the duplicate line, leaving only the correct email address (the one associated with the default msmtp account) but no send and no log entry |
| 02:33.05 | Samot | Again, show that *Asterisk* is actually sending the email. |
| 02:33.28 | Samot | Looking in the mail log for an entry that never shows up may be because there was no attempt. |
| 02:34.00 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: my suspicion is that it isn't sending the email |
| 02:34.05 | FuriousGeorge | or attempting to send |
| 02:34.09 | Samot | Then PROVE IT |
| 02:34.11 | Samot | JFC. |
| 02:34.42 | Samot | Go into the asterisk console, turn up verbosity, debug if needed, and leave a voicemail to trigger the email attempt. |
| 02:37.00 | FuriousGeorge | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.11 | FuriousGeorge | that's it |
| 02:37.38 | FuriousGeorge | i called 101 from 101, went straight to vm, hence, i think the status is busy at the end |
| 02:38.12 | FuriousGeorge | what do you mean by debug, samot? sip debug for this? |
| 02:38.29 | Samot | What? |
| 02:38.30 | Samot | No. |
| 02:38.39 | Samot | core debug |
| 02:38.50 | Samot | So you can see what the voicemail app is doing |
| 02:38.59 | Samot | Issue: Voicemail is not sending email |
| 02:39.08 | Samot | What does SIP have to do with that? |
| 02:42.22 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: nothing. and still nothing https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Zvg3JpYZ43/ |
| 02:43.49 | Samot | 101 => 123456,Furious George,me@myemail.com,,, |
| 02:43.52 | Samot | Try that |
| 02:48.36 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GtQtJCvVpv/ |
| 02:48.58 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: ^^^ sadly, no change |
| 02:49.54 | Samot | What's the verbosity at? |
| 02:53.10 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: at vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv |
| 02:55.31 | FuriousGeorge | > core set verbose 10 |
| 02:55.34 | FuriousGeorge | was 20 |
| 03:01.30 | Samot | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:01.34 | Samot | Dude.. |
| 03:01.44 | Samot | Config the voicemail config with the proper email settings |
| 03:01.55 | Samot | You don't have a subject, a body, fromname |
| 03:02.22 | Samot | You basically set the email the server would send from and that's it. |
| 03:04.00 | FuriousGeorge | ugh.... just assumed that what was in comments was default |
| 03:13.09 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: still nothing... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KwzP2SdZxZ/ |
| 03:13.53 | FuriousGeorge | maybe reboot server or restart asterisk at this point? |
| 03:16.19 | Samot | mailcmd=/usr/bin/msmtp <-- Get rid of that |
| 03:16.34 | Samot | I cannot replicate you problem on this box I am currently setting up. |
| 03:17.54 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: -- User ended message by pressing # |
| 03:18.06 | Samot | OK |
| 03:18.12 | Samot | That doesn't really mean anything. |
| 03:18.25 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: -- User ended message by pressing # |
| 03:18.25 | FuriousGeorge | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.26 | FuriousGeorge | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.29 | FuriousGeorge | oops |
| 03:18.44 | FuriousGeorge | nothing changed |
| 03:19.05 | Samot | Show the mailbox |
| 03:19.19 | Samot | ls -l /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/<mailbox> |
| 03:19.38 | Samot | ls -l /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/101 |
| 03:20.46 | FuriousGeorge | > voicemail show users |
| 03:20.50 | FuriousGeorge | ok will show that way |
| 03:22.28 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: looks ok to me https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MmdHnD2vqh/ |
| 03:22.58 | Samot | ls -l /var/spool/asterisk/voicemail/default/101/INBOX |
| 03:24.07 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: *shrug* https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2DsBVQBNTg/ |
| 03:24.46 | FuriousGeorge | upgrade asterisk? reboot? opposite order? |
| 03:24.55 | FuriousGeorge | pray? |
| 03:29.16 | FuriousGeorge | "mailcmd=/usr/bin/msmtp <-- Get rid of that" you just wanted me to comment it out, right? |
| 03:29.58 | Samot | Yes. |
| 03:32.14 | FuriousGeorge | -- Reloading module 'app_minivm.so' (Mini VoiceMail (A minimal Voicemail e-mail System)) <--- could this be creating some sort of conflict |
| 03:32.48 | Samot | What? |
| 03:33.31 | Samot | Yeah it probably could be since I don't have it |
| 03:33.32 | FuriousGeorge | im grasping at straws. core set debug 100 app_minivm.so results in no change at console |
| 03:33.39 | Samot | Why is that installed? |
| 03:33.48 | FuriousGeorge | default? |
| 03:34.14 | Samot | No, it's not. |
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| 03:36.04 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: rebuild asterisk without it? or upgrade asterisk and make sure it doesn't get installed |
| 03:36.05 | Samot | app_voicemail.so is the default voicemail system. |
| 03:36.19 | Samot | Using anything else requires *YOU* to make it happen. |
| 03:36.50 | FuriousGeorge | when i voicemail show users i see the users defined in voicemail.conf |
| 03:37.07 | FuriousGeorge | i believe i am using app_voicemail, but maybe not |
| 03:37.27 | FuriousGeorge | should i just reinstall asterisk from scratch? |
| 03:38.47 | drmessano | module show like voicemail |
| 03:38.49 | drmessano | do that |
| 03:39.41 | FuriousGeorge | Module Description Use Count Status Support Level |
| 03:39.46 | FuriousGeorge | use count 0? |
| 03:40.35 | FuriousGeorge | i just tried to trigger an email again with core set debug 1000 and still see nothing about sending mail. i have the mailcmd line uncommented |
| 03:40.42 | Samot | Stop |
| 03:40.50 | Samot | Dude, you don't have app_voicemail.so loaded |
| 03:41.36 | Samot | cat /etc/asterisk/modules.conf |
| 03:41.40 | Samot | show us the modules.conf |
| 03:43.22 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YptR4ZTJQf/ |
| 03:45.38 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: when i check mail i hear "comedia mail". doesn't that imply it's loaded? |
| 03:46.18 | Samot | So you do module show like voicemail |
| 03:46.22 | Samot | Nothing shows up |
| 03:47.01 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: should i explicitly load it in modules.conf? rebuild asterisk with default settings? |
| 03:47.23 | Samot | How about noloading the crap you don't need |
| 03:47.30 | Samot | Like all the other voicemail apps |
| 03:47.53 | Samot | The default voicemail module is app_voicemal. All voicemail modules are mutually exclusive. Therefore it is better to make sure they are not loaded at startup |
| 03:48.00 | Samot | ^^ Straight from the samples |
| 03:49.05 | FuriousGeorge | noloading the crap i don't need sounds great, except i'm not sure what that could be besides minivm. as such, shouldn't i rebuild asterisk with default settings? |
| 03:49.40 | Samot | That has nothing do with it unless you didn't compile something you needed. |
| 03:50.16 | FuriousGeorge | i must have explicitly build minivm, since you say you don't have it |
| 03:50.19 | Samot | Clearly you don't want minivm or imap or obdc voicemail |
| 03:50.24 | Samot | So you would noload those |
| 03:50.33 | Samot | Removing them conflicting with app_voicemail |
| 03:50.39 | FuriousGeorge | > module show like minivm |
| 03:50.44 | Samot | No, I no loaded it |
| 03:50.49 | FuriousGeorge | im not using that one either, apparently |
| 03:51.14 | Samot | Just do a module show |
| 03:51.18 | Samot | pastebin that |
| 03:54.19 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ndT33Cwwgh/ |
| 03:55.33 | Samot | app_voicemail.so Comedian Mail (Voicemail System) 0 Running core |
| 03:55.48 | Samot | app_minivm.so Mini VoiceMail (A minimal Voicemail e-ma 0 Running extended |
| 03:56.28 | FuriousGeorge | neither seems to be getting used, yet i've left nearly 20 vms so far, not to mention checking mail, recording prompts etc |
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| 03:57.29 | Samot | OK, one last time man.. |
| 03:57.33 | drmessano | wow, you compiled everything |
| 03:57.41 | Samot | Go noload minivm |
| 03:57.41 | drmessano | Like pthread and timerfd |
| 03:57.46 | Samot | Yeah |
| 03:57.52 | Samot | This is buckshot city |
| 03:58.00 | drmessano | Every deprecated module |
| 03:58.21 | Samot | Some of those required him to install them |
| 03:59.04 | drmessano | Oh quite a few did |
| 04:00.26 | drmessano | chan_sip and chan_pjsip loaded |
| 04:02.40 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: i already did a noload minivm |
| 04:02.49 | FuriousGeorge | i also did a load app_voicemail.so |
| 04:02.57 | Samot | Did you restart asterisk? |
| 04:02.58 | FuriousGeorge | i was trying to see in console output where it says ot |
| 04:03.07 | FuriousGeorge | it's loaded, then i was going to try again |
| 04:03.39 | FuriousGeorge | yes, i haven't tested yet |
| 04:04.02 | FuriousGeorge | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:10.32 | FuriousGeorge | i don't think anything has changed... use count for app_voicemail still 0. still nothing in msmtp log... no debug output for core or app_voicemail.... nothing in console indicating an attempt to send email |
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| 04:19.31 | drmessano | voicemail show users |
| 04:19.39 | drmessano | do you see YOU in there? |
| 04:20.23 | FuriousGeorge | yes, we checked that a while ago |
| 04:20.24 | FuriousGeorge | Context Mbox User Zone NewMsg |
| 04:20.50 | drmessano | A while ago isn't "right now after no-loading the other module" |
| 04:21.07 | FuriousGeorge | drmessano: fair enough. no change there either |
| 04:21.17 | drmessano | Is there a second line? |
| 04:22.29 | drmessano | You replied "yes" and then pasted the header line. Any reason for that odd reply? |
| 04:22.49 | FuriousGeorge | something wrong with my client and pasting. you just reminded me that happens |
| 04:22.56 | FuriousGeorge | im using freenode web client |
| 04:23.00 | FuriousGeorge | i pasted 3 lines |
| 04:23.11 | FuriousGeorge | and i saw 3 |
| 04:23.58 | FuriousGeorge | drmessano: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dkp364jFxW/ |
| 04:25.24 | drmessano | Only thing I can guess is that there is something in your redacted config that's goofing it up |
| 04:27.03 | Samot | The use count is fine. |
| 04:27.05 | Samot | It's 0 |
| 04:27.45 | Samot | FuriousGeorge: Show a voicemail being left again, in full. Start of the call to the end of the call. verbose 10 and debug 10 on app_voicemail.so |
| 04:28.41 | FuriousGeorge | the entry for operator which i redacted blasts off an email to everyone. i will comment that out and do as Samot just suggested |
| 04:28.48 | FuriousGeorge | in fact, ill comment out everyone but me |
| 04:33.26 | FuriousGeorge | just noticed an accidental carriage return mid comment above the mailcmd line |
| 04:33.38 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HknyDJ4d2r/ |
| 04:34.22 | Samot | You have a random line |
| 04:34.29 | drmessano | line 14 is trash |
| 04:36.58 | FuriousGeorge | yeah, that's what i was referring to by accidental carriage return, but doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 04:37.42 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Px3rMzBZnj/ |
| 04:39.15 | drmessano | before we test again, lets pastebin a working config file |
| 04:39.30 | drmessano | I'm still not convinced |
| 04:40.39 | Samot | -- Auto fallthrough, channel 'SIP/101-0000000c' status is 'BUSY' <-- Also deal with that |
| 04:41.32 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/G5wzYsV3Nx/ |
| 04:42.33 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: i believe that happens because i'm calling myself so I'm busy. you want me to handle the busy explicitly? |
| 04:43.20 | FuriousGeorge | drmessano: the config is pasted above |
| 04:43.20 | Samot | You should always handle dial statuses |
| 04:43.51 | Samot | HOLY HELL |
| 04:45.07 | Samot | mailcmd=/usr/bin/msmtp <<-- HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY REMOVE THIS |
| 04:47.05 | FuriousGeorge | i mentioned above that i put it back... ill remove again... how do we expect the situation to improve without any mailcmd defined? removing again |
| 04:50.21 | drmessano | There's such a thing as a default mailer |
| 04:50.32 | drmessano | I have never defined mailcmd |
| 04:53.03 | Samot | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5tMVocrP/ |
| 04:53.13 | Samot | That's what it should look like |
| 04:54.08 | drmessano | It's one of two things here |
| 04:54.22 | drmessano | Either your mail agent isn't working, or your email address is borked |
| 04:54.57 | FuriousGeorge | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qHdwnWSGRP/ |
| 04:55.04 | FuriousGeorge | mail agent works fine from command line |
| 04:55.57 | FuriousGeorge | and i know from experience that if i mess up the FROM: in an email, i still get something in the log like "invalid reply from server" |
| 04:56.30 | FuriousGeorge | and, also, we see nothing in console about email, even with all the verbosity and debugging turned on |
| 04:57.01 | FuriousGeorge | maybe i should upgrade asterisk and rebuild it with less stuff, e.g. no pjsip |
| 04:57.03 | drmessano | Have you installed msmtp-mta? |
| 04:57.14 | Samot | What? |
| 04:57.23 | Samot | How does not building pjsip make voicemail work? |
| 04:57.34 | FuriousGeorge | idk |
| 04:57.36 | drmessano | FuriousGeorge: This has absolutely NOTHING to do with SIP |
| 04:57.41 | Samot | What version of Asterisk is this? |
| 04:57.42 | drmessano | Have you installed msmtp-mta? |
| 04:57.47 | FuriousGeorge | im just grasping at straws |
| 04:57.50 | drmessano | Yes or no |
| 04:57.55 | FuriousGeorge | i just installed msmtp-mta |
| 04:58.02 | FuriousGeorge | only had msmtp before |
| 04:58.02 | Samot | Because I literally just built a server, the one I'm testing all this with you on, and I haven't had any problems. |
| 04:58.04 | drmessano | Just now, or "I only installed" |
| 04:58.08 | drmessano | Okay.. |
| 04:58.32 | drmessano | if you JUST NOW installed it, assuming your imprecise language, try again |
| 04:58.47 | drmessano | Because you need msmtp-mta for the sendmail aliases |
| 04:59.18 | Samot | What version of Asterisk is this? |
| 04:59.30 | FuriousGeorge | indeed i have /usr/sbin/sendmail again |
| 04:59.38 | drmessano | Ok, please try again |
| 04:59.46 | drmessano | Then answer Samot |
| 04:59.58 | FuriousGeorge | Asterisk 16.9.0 built by root @ asterisk-hwc on a x86_64 running Linux on 2020-03-30 02:48:38 UTC |
| 05:00.05 | FuriousGeorge | trying again |
| 05:00.13 | Samot | So the exact same build I did. |
| 05:00.39 | FuriousGeorge | i think it was the lack of msmtp-mta, and now it will work... lets see |
| 05:00.59 | drmessano | I have no idea how you can assume that without a test |
| 05:01.02 | drmessano | Please test |
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| 05:02.17 | FuriousGeorge | i guessed, and as it turns out i guessed right. nice job |
| 05:02.46 | drmessano | So yeah msmtp is not a drop in replacement for sendmail and postfix |
| 05:02.52 | drmessano | You need this other package to wrap it |
| 05:03.26 | drmessano | What an unnecessary mess |
| 05:03.45 | FuriousGeorge | i think i took some time off samot's life with this one |
| 05:03.50 | FuriousGeorge | thanks for all the help samot |
| 05:04.29 | FuriousGeorge | i had always been using ssmtp, but it is abandoned... i don't recall having to install the mta separate from the package with that one |
| 05:04.41 | Samot | So it was working from the cli because it was the client |
| 05:04.42 | FuriousGeorge | maybe i had to, and just don't recall |
| 05:04.51 | Samot | But not working from Asterisk because there was no MTA |
| 05:04.55 | Samot | Nice. |
| 05:05.10 | drmessano | yep |
| 05:05.29 | Samot | 3 hours wasted because the server wasn't setup right |
| 05:05.37 | FuriousGeorge | guilty as charged |
| 05:05.41 | drmessano | msmtp-mta literally adds scripts to make it an MTA |
| 05:05.55 | Samot | No wonder my crap just worked. |
| 05:05.59 | Samot | I just used postfix |
| 05:06.07 | Samot | Had to do nuthin' |
| 05:06.15 | Samot | Well configure postfix but that's it |
| 05:06.17 | drmessano | Not sure what the fuck is so wrong with postfix that people do this shit |
| 05:06.24 | FuriousGeorge | at one point before i asked in here, i tried making an alias to msmstp in /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 05:06.30 | drmessano | Seems like this is a major asterisk/freepbx community blind spot |
| 05:06.40 | drmessano | PSA: Just use Postfix. |
| 05:06.53 | drmessano | FuriousGeorge: it's not just an alias, apparently |
| 05:07.43 | FuriousGeorge | as soon as i saw that /usr/sbin/sendmail appeared with msmstp-mta, i had a good feeling that you figured it out |
| 05:09.06 | FuriousGeorge | i don't have rDNS on this server, which is why i didn't just use postfx. i should just have put it in google compute engine instead |
| 05:09.17 | Samot | What? |
| 05:09.20 | FuriousGeorge | and used postfix/sendgrid |
| 05:09.31 | Samot | How does not having rDNS make one MTA OK over the other? |
| 05:09.40 | Samot | Regardless of the MTA, you still have a poor email setup |
| 05:09.52 | FuriousGeorge | it will be marked as spam often without the matching rDNS |
| 05:10.05 | Samot | That's like saying "I don't have SPF setup so I use Exim" |
| 05:10.12 | Samot | Because postfix won't work |
| 05:10.23 | FuriousGeorge | i have rDNS, it just doesn't match a domain i control |
| 05:10.49 | FuriousGeorge | maybe im wrong, but non-matching rDNS is a red flag for spam |
| 05:11.38 | FuriousGeorge | truth is, i haven't worried about it since when i used linode way back when. now i mostly use compute engine, which forces use of sendgrid, so o don't think about it anymore |
| 05:12.41 | FuriousGeorge | i have nothing against postfix per se |
| 05:13.52 | Samot | What forces the use of send grid? |
| 05:15.23 | FuriousGeorge | i believe they block traffic on 25,465,587, and I'm not sure what if anything else |
| 05:15.43 | FuriousGeorge | they must block outbound on those ports as well or something |
| 05:16.47 | drmessano | 1. Postfix works fine with sendgrid |
| 05:16.56 | FuriousGeorge | i didn't mean to imply that it didn't |
| 05:17.13 | FuriousGeorge | it's just a simpler set up than setting up a full fledged mail server |
| 05:17.27 | drmessano | Postfix is not a full-fledged anything |
| 05:17.41 | drmessano | It's an SMTP server |
| 05:18.02 | drmessano | and with like 1 lines of config, it's a dumb smtp relay |
| 05:18.09 | drmessano | and with like 10 lines of config, it's a dumb smtp relay |
| 05:18.28 | FuriousGeorge | https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail |
| 05:18.34 | FuriousGeorge | looks like they only block 25 |
| 05:18.38 | drmessano | It's not more a "full mail server" than msmtp |
| 05:19.08 | FuriousGeorge | iow, i could just use postfix to send via the o365 smtp server im using now |
| 05:19.09 | drmessano | I use GMAIL as an SMTP relay as well, with postfix |
| 05:19.21 | drmessano | and O365 at work |
| 05:19.36 | FuriousGeorge | rather than using msmstp |
| 05:19.41 | drmessano | and I have sendgrid and mailjet for other projects |
| 05:21.15 | Samot | I have a server I use as an SMTP relay for everything else on the network. |
| 05:21.28 | FuriousGeorge | by full mail server i meant full smtp server, but i see your point. i could have used postfix as a relay |
| 05:21.55 | drmessano | what exactly is a full smtp server vs mssmtp? |
| 05:22.33 | FuriousGeorge | postfix doesn't need a 3rd party smtp server to send mail |
| 05:22.34 | drmessano | Postfix and sendmail are SMTP agents that dump received mail into folders, or relay to other hosts |
| 05:22.46 | drmessano | so? |
| 05:23.25 | FuriousGeorge | so, if i own the rDNS, i could just use postfix as an smtp server, instead of as a client for another server |
| 05:23.33 | drmessano | ...... |
| 05:23.52 | drmessano | Dude |
| 05:23.56 | drmessano | This is nuts |
| 05:24.03 | FuriousGeorge | how so? |
| 05:24.56 | drmessano | People DO and HAVE been using sendmail and postfix as a simple MTA to relay to GOOGLE, SENDGRID, ISP SMTP Servers, corporate servers, etc from boxes forever |
| 05:25.21 | drmessano | You do not need DNS and every other fucking thing for a PUBLIC SMTP server to use it as the MTA on a server |
| 05:25.24 | FuriousGeorge | i know. in fact that's what i do on my compute engine slice via sendgrid |
| 05:25.53 | FuriousGeorge | i just forgot and instinctively went to ssmtp, which was discontinued, which led to msmtp |
| 05:26.18 | FuriousGeorge | but when i pulled up the sendgrid docs from gce, i remembered that is how a couple of my gce nodes work now |
| 05:26.24 | drmessano | Your choice of SOFTWARE was poor. You could have used SENDMAIL or POSTFIX with a relayhost and never had this problem, and neither of those involves installing a "full mail server" |
| 05:26.32 | drmessano | So I have no idea where you got that from |
| 05:26.41 | FuriousGeorge | im not disagreeing with you |
| 05:26.48 | FuriousGeorge | guilty as charged |
| 05:27.17 | drmessano | So why do you keep bringing up "full mail server" and rDNS, etc? NONE of those apply here |
| 05:27.33 | FuriousGeorge | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.37 | FuriousGeorge | i realized my mistake after the comments about rDNS |
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| 11:54.56 | Ionic | I've tried using the pjsip wizard to generate a configuration and explicitly set sends_registrations = yes, but I never see Asterisk sending registrations + pjsip export config_wizard primitives to file generates a file without any type = registration entries. That doesn't sound... normal? |
| 12:00.39 | Ionic | https://dpaste.org/wEwE nothing too fancy, other than the template that generates multiple entries for multiple upstream numbers |
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| 16:52.00 | wonderworld | hello, i am looking for information on how to use the AMI interface. I found the docs on asterisk.org, but no example so I am unsure if i need to login first maybe? |
| 16:52.30 | wonderworld | what i want to do is, to just read a stream of confbridge events. |
| 16:53.13 | wonderworld | i connected to AMI with netcat and expected to see the events, but nothing happend. so i was wondering on where to find more information on the protocol used. |
| 16:54.12 | wonderworld | i didn't setup a user in manager.conf and set read = call |
| 16:54.40 | FuriousGeorge | you need an account set up in manager.conf |
| 16:54.57 | FuriousGeorge | here's an example in php: https://www.voip-info.org/asterisk-manager-example-php/ |
| 16:55.27 | wonderworld | thank you very much |
| 16:55.29 | FuriousGeorge | wonderworld: there is also PAMI for php, but I've had mixed results with that. some sort of random socket error kept happening, i can't recall |
| 16:55.56 | FuriousGeorge | so i ended up making my own classes for the calls i needed to make and data i needed to retrieve |
| 16:56.16 | wonderworld | is your code GPL'ed ? |
| 16:58.52 | wonderworld | FuriousGeorge: this looks good. i will be able to fiddle something with that example. tnx again. |
| 16:59.34 | FuriousGeorge | I didn't attach any license to it... but in the end I made it stateless, and just used call files tbh. i wasn't doing anything with confbridge |
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| 17:00.04 | FuriousGeorge | i still have some classes laying around in various states of completion if you'd like |
| 17:01.00 | wonderworld | i need to play around a bit with it first to get a better understanding. |
| 17:01.47 | wonderworld | bottomline would be to just grab all speaking events from confbridge and write them to a db where my client would grab them from. |
| 17:03.16 | FuriousGeorge | looks like i was just using originate, core show channels, etc. nothing that would be too helpful for you. don't forget to log out and in as needed, or the connection will eventually go downy |
| 17:03.45 | wonderworld | ok, so the ami server has a connection timeout? |
| 17:04.00 | FuriousGeorge | no, but eventually the socket gets interrupted in my experience |
| 17:04.39 | FuriousGeorge | these were two vms (asterisk and the server running php) on the same machine, so i couldn't blame the lan |
| 17:05.36 | wonderworld | i see. thank you for all the insight. this sounds adventureous ;) |
| 17:05.49 | FuriousGeorge | if you really need it to be logged in persistently, you're gonna need to build some fault tolerance into it. probably you would rather be using the AGI in that case, not sure |
| 17:06.19 | FuriousGeorge | maybe even the agi to trigger you ami client, as needed |
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| 17:09.13 | wonderworld | i fear the app should be running 24/7 because it needs to monitor all talking events in multiple conference pools. |
| 17:09.29 | wonderworld | these are the events i want to grab: https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/ConfBridge+AMI+Events |
| 17:10.15 | wonderworld | It's the "ConfbridgeTalking" event. |
| 17:10.57 | wonderworld | I need the data to display in the client who is talking at the moment. |
| 17:11.55 | wonderworld | i'll try how far i can go. the examples look promising! |
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| 18:59.16 | FuriousGeorge | wonderworld: i would probably call a script from the dialplan that does what it needs to do via the AMI, and then logs out |
| 19:00.30 | FuriousGeorge | i don't think the AMI was designed to be a persistent connection. at the very least I would log in/out once a day during off hours |
| 19:05.44 | Samot | FuriousGeorge: people use AMI as an event listener. |
| 19:05.57 | Samot | So yeah, they basically log in and listen for events to be streamed. |
| 19:06.15 | Samot | Hard to do when you login/logout each request. |
| 19:06.19 | FuriousGeorge | Samot: have you tried leaving it running while(1)? |
| 19:06.48 | Samot | I've played around with making a listener in the past, haven't really played with it recently. |
| 19:08.25 | FuriousGeorge | this was a couple of years ago, so maybe the situation is different, but i had 4 locations with between 3 and 7 instances of a connection, each making 0 to a handful of AMI calls per day |
| 19:09.22 | FuriousGeorge | given enough time, the connections would break, and the script was running on the same machine as asterisk (different vm) |
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| 19:10.37 | FuriousGeorge | so i can't blame the lan. in the end, since i was just using originate, show channels, and hangup, i went with call files, and stopped caring if the folks remembered to hang up |
| 19:11.46 | FuriousGeorge | i asked about it in here, before switching to call files, and someone said that it was not a good idea to leave it connected indefinitely, but i can't remember who ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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